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I will call to order the September 8th,

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2026 uh town council meeting to order.

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If you could please stand for the pledge

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of allegiance and moment of silence.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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Thank you.

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We have no proclamations or

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presentations tonight. So that brings us

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to public petition uh public petitions.

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Uh and as a reminder, this first session

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is with a threem minute limit. Um if you

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could just provide your name and address

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uh if you'd like to participate and I

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will start in the room and invite anyone

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to come to the table if they would like

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Nelson 206 Anderson Road.

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Uh this is regarding the new business

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agenda item 8.2 consideration of a

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resolution to adopt proposed town

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naming.

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When Talent considers a policy for

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naming Talin owned public use areas, I

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believe we need to start with one simple

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principle. The name should have a

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meaningful connection to the place being

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named. And we need only look at Taland's

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own history, not neighboring towns,

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other states or national trends.

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Connection should come first and

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foremost. Talent has been here since

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and for more than 300 years areas have

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been names rooted in our history, our

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land and people who have been part of

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our community. People whose lives or

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contributions have a meaningful

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connection to the particular place being

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named.

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The town has purchased areas of land and

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some of those names reflect the longtime

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stewards of that land such as the CW

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loose loose conservation area. Residents

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have also donated land to the town that

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became conservation areas, hiking

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trails, parks, and other places like

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Crandles. Names like Sumar's Pond and

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Skunkamog also reflect Talland's history

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and connection to the land, including

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our Native American heritage.

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I think of my first grade principal,

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Donald Parker, who spent 18 years in the

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Talland school system. After his

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untimely death in 1973,

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Metobrook Elementary School, where I

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went to first grade, became Parker

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Memorial. I was six years old but I

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still remember him. That names mean that

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name means something because Mr. Parker

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was connected to that school and

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generations of talent children. It told

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a story. I'm sorry my foot is to stand

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up. That is the standard we should

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preserve. I also believe politicians

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should not be considered for naming town

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own public places. These places belong

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to everyone and their name should unite

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us and reflect Talland's history. There

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are other ways to honor deserving

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individuals such as scholarships,

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fundraisers, memorial plaques, or

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dedicating a room or smaller area rather

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than naming a large building or public

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area after someone with no direct

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connection to that place. Before

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adopting a policy, I believe we should

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hold a public hearing so residents can

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share their knowledge and ideas. We

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should also make better use of our town

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historians. They have dedicated

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themselves for preserving Talin's

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history and we should cherish that

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knowledge and draw upon it when making

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decisions about names that will become

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part of our historical record. We have

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more than sorry we have more than 300

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years of Taland history. Let's preserve

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those connections, listen to our

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residents, and let the names of our

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public places tell story.

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and back online. Last call for public

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participation. Please raise your Zoom

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petitions and uh there are no public

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reports of boards and committees

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responsible to the council. Um

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the firehouse subcommittee, any update

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this. We're having a pre-construction

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meeting on the 14th, which is next

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Monday next week. Um, so we'll be having

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Brian, contaminated wells, anything or

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any movement in terms of um the funding

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from the state when that might get

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working for the vineyards?

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quality in the Lake View Heights. Um I

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met with the DPW director about uh

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cleaning out the catch basins um ceiling

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cracks. Um where are they in the paving

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schedule? We'll look at that um moving

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forward. The standard stuff that we had

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done in the vineyards um years prior to

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show that we're doing our part on the uh

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least the runoff of the roads. Um has uh

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our consultant uh have they did they

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test them?

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>> They they tested there was new results

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they've been given to Langden. At some

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point you might expect um Mike to come

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forward uh with this budgeting questions

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in relation to that.

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Crag Ehd that kind of thing.

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>> Sure. um CCM um we went over some of the legislative uh items that they're

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looking at uh of highlight today was u

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state support for warming and cooling

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centers. We look at a town like Taland.

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library when they're open. Um there

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would be funding they're trying to get

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funding for after hours if something

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were to happen. Uh that being said, we

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have at times sent John or someone to

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the senior center. um and 0.0 people

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have showed up um for that. Um so it's iffy how far CCM is going to take

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it. Other towns seem to echo what we

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said. You know, the cities are are a

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different uh different uh situation than

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we're in. However, uh we talked about

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the uh everyone in the state is

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concerned with the uh ambulance and fire

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vehicles, fire trucks, and the length of

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time and cost it is to do it. and

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forever. I sat here for years and said

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it's John and said it's you COVID and

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supply chain and now um it looks like

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that these conglomerates have bought up

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and hedge funds have bought up all the

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places. Uh basically creating a

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monopoly. Um a $1.4 million firet truck

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a few years ago is now 2.4. Um and four

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years out for um a fire truck and three

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state for some uh remedies with that. Um

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there was some social media stuff in

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regards to law enforcement but nothing

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that would affect Taland so much and

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some talk about again block cameras

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again not affecting talent. Uh CCM I

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talked about the salary survey. Uh we we

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had a meeting um and they are also

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offering uh AI training and local

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government uh for uh staff. So I'll I'll

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be floating that out to some uh

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different people. Uh and then they

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talked about shared dispatching dispatch

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services. They talked about um

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uh regionalizing fire and ambulance, but

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after what we went through with just

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trying to regionalize one and a half dog

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wardens with three towns, um I can't

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anyone could ever regionalize. Um it's

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going to be quite a process. I

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completely embrace it. I wish we had a

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regional fire and ambulance um and would

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look for some um different things moving

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forward. But uh that's it for CCM and

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Croc. Any questions?

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talked about this in the executive

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session a little bit. Um in terms of

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town employee salaries and how they

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compare to CC and they put out the

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average list where what do our employees

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>> We are we are consistently in darn near

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every position um near the bottom end uh

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vice chair brought I thought was a good

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point that I want to make sure we

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emphasize now and again in the budget.

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do our employees in the four days that

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they work do they still work a full like

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40hour work week? It is a 40hour work

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week. Um, and the the town hall opens up

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um at 8:00 a.m. and closes at 4:30 on uh

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sorry on Thursdays

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point is and and Randy made this earlier

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well one you know our employees are

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certainly um paid on like the lower end

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of of what what towns are doing but

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they're also still working 40 hours so

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it's not as though you know they're

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getting it's a reduced work schedule. So

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um I just want to make that make sure

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that point's clear because I think

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that's important to know

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>> if you go downstairs all the offices are

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full right now. People are still here.

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>> Yeah. I do think it's great for people

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being able to access the town, you know,

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when they're not working, that kind of

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thing. So, I think that's good.

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>> Thank you, Brian. Um, reports and

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reports of boards and committees

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responsible to the council. Um,

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councelor Dar.

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>> Certainly. Um, the last meeting was on,

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uh, August 26th. It was kind of neat.

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They had their student rep was there

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even though classes hadn't started yet.

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um but she reported out on link and if

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anyone knows what doesn't know what that

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is it's really cool program where

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students um sign up to be link crew

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members and they're there to welcome the

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freshmen and help the freshman um get

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through uh and and know where they are.

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Um so she attended her first board of ed

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meeting without you know school being in

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>> Um the teacher negotiations are are

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still ongoing. Um, from my viewpoint,

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um, the BOE is doing a good job as

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stewards of town to work, um, with the

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to work together to to figure out the

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best possible negotiation for our

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teachers. Um, and um, with the town in

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mind, obviously. Um, and then there was

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a very long discussion on the

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superintendent goals for the year. Um

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there were about 13 different goals. Uh

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they settled on four that were primary

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goals. However, there's not one of the

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13 goals that the superintendent can't

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work on during the year because of it's

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part of his job. But the bas the four

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goals were a return on investment to

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evaluate uh school programs. Uh a

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grading assessment and review. uh they

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were discussing how um that there might

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be disparity on on ways teachers grade.

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So they wanted to make sure that's

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consistent. Um uh safety and security is

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always a priority. Um and then another

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big one was exploring uh uh and

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expanding tuition opportunities and

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trying to get others to come to our

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schools to help um pay tuition. So that

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was the the gist of it.

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>> Great. Thank you.

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>> You're welcome. Councelor Beast saw

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anything on your end?

302
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>> Uh, no. I do not have anything um at my

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committee's meeting on this Thursday.

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>> Got it. Councelor B.

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>> Uh, we are out of sync right now with

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planning and zoning because yesterday

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was holiday. So, their meeting will be

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next week. Um, and then uh uh committee

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on um commission on persons with

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disabilities is busy planning their uh

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because we have the harvest fest coming

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up their stair. So, they've got some

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cool things and have a list that they're

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looking forward to. Um,

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that's what I have for you right now.

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>> Thank you. As a marshall,

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>> just wait for the next meeting and

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hopefully it won't be cancelled.

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>> Sounds good. Thank you. Um, and next

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Wednesday I have the historic district

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commission meeting. So, I have nothing

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to update on either. Um Brian, I know uh

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since uh Council Jackson's not here

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tonight, um PCC in terms of the harvest

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fest, are they do you know in terms of

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like how they're doing planning and

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getting geared up for that? They're

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doing great. Um I met I I put set aside

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some set aside some time last week to

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sit down with Eric and Dr. Jackson and

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go over uh so many things PCC especially

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the harvest fest. So they're they're in good shape. Trish lock in

333
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good shape.

334
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>> Great. Thank you.

335
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So that brings us to item eight, which

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is our new business. Uh 8.1 is a

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consideration of resolution to declare

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the attached list of equipment as

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surplus property within the town. Brian,

340
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>> thank you.

341
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So, um you know, when I got here,

342
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search search previous career um looking

343
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at um different facilities in town uh

344
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and equipment. Uh there seem to be a lot

345
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of stagnant pieces of equipment, older

346
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pieces of equipment in storage areas, uh

347
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that needed to be cleaned out uh with

348
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new management um in DPW where we are

349
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taking again an aggressive effort. You

350
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saw one of these surplus sales a year or

351
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two ago. Uh and now you're seeing

352
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another one. Uh this is smaller

353
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equipment here um as opposed to the last

354
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one. Uh all uh not super expensive uh

355
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items. We have a surplus policy. Uh Dave

356
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Dro uh our assistant director in DBW is

357
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here if you have any questions in

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regards to the um surplus policy. We

359
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have any funding that we get and you can

360
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look at the totals. uh I asked them at

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the very last column on the right um in

362
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your package uh the total estimated

363
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value of of the items and they go from

364
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zero to you know low numbers here so

365
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it's not a big chunk of money that's

366
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going to end up in CNRE uh but that's

367
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where the the money ends up uh Dave's

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here if you have any questions uh on any

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of this stuff we've also included

370
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pictures of most of the items as well as

371
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you can so you can get a feel for them

372
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um these were in like container

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buildings and such around on different

374
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properties as we're trying to uh really

375
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professionalize our uh equipment and um

376
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management of it.

377
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>> Any questions?

378
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» What is the process andor deadline for,

379
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you know, putting these out for bid or

380
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how does that work?

381
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>> Go ahead, Dave. Uh so what we end up

382
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doing is uh we let it uh known to the

383
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public and we have a viewing location

384
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that we can have uh people come and look

385
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at everything in one centralized

386
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location. Um at that point people will

387
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submit sealed bids to the town manager's

388
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office. Um

389
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it's just a it's a pretty lengthy

390
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process and that's part of why

391
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everything's been tucked away. So,

392
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>> so what is the is is there a start and

393
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end date yet or not?

394
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>> Not currently. This is this is the

395
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resolution.

396
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>> You need to Yes, we we have to once you

397
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give us the green light, then I'll start

398
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hustling out.

399
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>> Yep. Gotcha.

400
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>> Thanks.

401
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>> So, we don't use something like public

402
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surplus because that that's kind of

403
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expedited the getting rid of this stuff.

404
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>> I thought we did use a surplus company.

405
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Do we?

406
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>> No.

407
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>> I know John does for his um his stuff,

408
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but they take a cut. the state does and

409
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a lot of other towns do and it just

410
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eliminates the middleman. Just somebody

411
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bids on it and then they come and pick

412
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it up. They got a certain amount of time

413
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to come get it

414
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>> and they take a cut.

415
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>> We don't like I asked Dave today, does

416
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anyone take a cut of this and we get we

417
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keep it all for ourselves if we can.

418
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>> Any of this stuff operational?

419
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>> It's border borderline. Some things will

420
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start and run, other things won't. But

421
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it's a basically as you know sight on

422
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scene kind of

423
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>> we don't let everybody go through

424
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everything if it runs. It's kind of just

425
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a a bid bid process and the highest bid

426
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we'll get it quicker keep it as fair as

427
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possible.

428
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>> Dave, how how successful are we at

429
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selling the surplus?

430
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>> Um, the last surplus we did, everything

431
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went

432
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» I don't remember what the exact figure

433
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was, but I know it was a decent amount

434
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and everything went

435
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>> That's my question. So, we're not stuck

436
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with it trying to dispose of it.

437
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,799
>> You leave it on the side of the road.

438
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Yeah, that was the end of my driveway

439
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that was gone the next day.

440
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>> Um,

441
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>> I don't if you mentioned this already,

442
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Brian, I apologize. I can't remember.

443
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Um, what's the process for determining

444
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that, you know, that they should be

445
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declared surplus in terms of like I know

446
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you said some things operate, some

447
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things are not these things are just

448
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well past their useful life. Does that

449
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sort of

450
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>> Yeah.

451
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if they're not running anymore and it's

452
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going to cost more money to keep it

453
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running or repair it um than we we get

454
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rid of it like with anything. And these

455
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things kind of just sat for years long

456
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before this administration, that's for

457
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sure. Um and so then they bring a list

458
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to me and we'll go over the list. I

459
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would much prefer the list as many items

460
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as I can going to in front of you and

461
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going out to the public as opposed to

462
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saying it's not worth anything and just

463
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throw it out. There are things that were so rusted um that it

464
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wasn't even we just got rid of them. It

465
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was garbage. But which we are entitled

466
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to do, but I try to get as much as I can

467
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out there in the public. Some like you

468
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said, like he said, someone will come

469
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take it and give it a pull if it if it

470
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has compression or whatever, they'll

471
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take it and get it running.

472
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>> Yeah. Thank you.

473
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>> Yeah.

474
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>> So, so basically then if if we needed

475
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one of these things, we already have a

476
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replacement. it it's already been

477
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replaced at this point because most of

478
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what is on here has already been

479
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replaced and this was stuff that was

480
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just left and used to the end of its

481
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life basically.

482
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>> And then there probably other things are

483
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just obsolete and you probably don't

484
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need them or need replace them.

485
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>> Okay.

486
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>> So you're not looking just to follow not

487
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looking for any like major purchases as

488
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a result of

489
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>> none of this? No. Again, this is the all

490
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of this was previous to to to any of us.

491
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>> Thank you. Any other questions?

492
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I will I will entertain a motion to

493
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adopt the resolution as outlined in

494
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agenda item 8.1 uh to declare surplus um

495
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the items that are uh listed in the in

496
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our packet.

497
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>> So moved by councelor Duber. Is there a

498
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second?

499
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>> Second. Seconded by councelor Visaw. Is

500
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there any discussion?

501
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Uh

502
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nobody's hovering tonight. Uh all in

503
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favor say I.

504
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>> I. And that passes unanimously. Thank

505
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you.

506
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>> So that brings us to item 8.2

507
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consideration of a resolution to adopt

508
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uh proposed section A1 176-27 of the Tom

509
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Code regarding naming of town properties

510
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and setting of a public hearing in

511
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Maryland for September 22nd, 2026. Um

512
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I'll just provide a quick uh intro. Um

513
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the time manager can mention that. So we

514
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this came up uh in the context of naming

515
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the public marsh property. Um and the

516
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sort of decision we had discussions as a

517
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council previously about wanting to it

518
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being a good idea to create a policy to

519
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make sure that the way we're naming town

520
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,080
properties going forward is um you know

521
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solicit of public input. Um and uh so we

522
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wanted to address that first. Um and so

523
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that's what's on the agenda tonight. Uh

524
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we have the uh a proposal. Um town

525
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property naming policy. Um Ryan, do you

526
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have anything you want to say before I

527
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open?

528
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>> Sure. Council chair, you as you know,

529
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you asked me to have staff put something

530
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together. Uh Dave had researched other

531
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towns. Uh was able to uh put this draft

532
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together. Again, just a draft as as

533
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clean as we could get it uh to council.

534
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Uh it was reviewed by our town attorney

535
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uh and approved to move forward. Uh if

536
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changes were to be made, we would again

537
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bring it to the the the town attorney.

538
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Uh that this is just to move it forward

539
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to uh a public hearing um in a couple

540
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weeks.

541
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>> Thank you. Um so I'll just say that I'll

542
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open up for discussion. Uh obviously

543
00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:17,120
there's a few different things we can

544
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,400
do, right? If people are comfortable

545
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,039
with as how it is, we can we can move

546
00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:22,480
forward with setting a public hearing.

547
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120
If folks have some specific changes they

548
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:26,559
would like to see, we can always

549
00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,000
implement those um run it by Rick um and

550
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
then you know decide whether we want to

551
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000
set a public hearing date now or whether

552
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,360
we need to see how that's implemented.

553
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,640
So uh I guess with that in mind um I'll

554
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,840
open it up to any discussion or any

555
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,559
anything wants to raise in terms of u

556
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,480
the policy. I guess I'll say in terms of

557
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,440
a brief summary, um uh as drafted uh in

558
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,880
the in the packet, um the council may

559
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,120
initiate a naming request or may receive

560
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:58,880
a request to name or change the name of

561
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,799
the property uh from a petition of at

562
00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,120
least 25 residents. Um there's some

563
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:04,400
information about what needs to be

564
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,559
included with the request. Um the

565
00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,440
approval process would uh include a

566
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,440
setting of a public hearing within 30

567
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,400
days. Um and then we the council would

568
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,080
consider public input uh from the

569
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,440
hearing. Um however the town council is

570
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,280
not obligated to adopt a proposed name

571
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,080
change. Uh four votes from the council

572
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,559
is required to adopt the change. Um

573
00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:27,919
that's sort of a high level what we're

574
00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:31,200
looking at. So I'll open it up.

575
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,640
>> Okay. So we we did receive a few a few

576
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,480
emails on the subject and we've had

577
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:43,120
obviously some public participation. So, looking at the policy as is to me

578
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,679
it's a good framework. It's a start, but

579
00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:48,080
I don't think it necessarily answers

580
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,919
some of the questions or may leave it

581
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:52,159
too vague that we're probably in a

582
00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:54,799
similar we may be in a similar place

583
00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:57,520
moving forward if we don't come up with

584
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,159
maybe more information. Um, I think what

585
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:04,640
we want to make sure is that and I've

586
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,200
got some notes here so bear with me. Um

587
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,720
I think one of the things you know with

588
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,799
a petition

589
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,840
you know there's a 25 I don't know 26 or

590
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720
100 or 200 or 500 matter. I'm not sure.

591
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,440
Um but I think what we need to make sure

592
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600
is that whatever we do with the a

593
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840
petition that we're very clear that we

594
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320
don't that we prevent any unnecessary

595
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,200
excitement over the petition being you

596
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,640
know sent forward um or conflict if it's

597
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,799
sent forward and it's not approved. So I

598
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:39,039
think we need a very clear process. Um

599
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,919
it talks about uh land uh property

600
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:45,600
administered by the town council. Um

601
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,200
does that include um all departments or commissions? That was just vague to

602
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,679
me. Um

603
00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:57,600
we it talked about um

604
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400
the town council may initiate a naming

605
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,400
or or the petition. Um but could we re

606
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,320
um receive a request from a donor, for

607
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,159
example, could they name it? So that

608
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:12,000
that's not addressed. Um

609
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,640
you know, we don't talk about businesses

610
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240
or political uh situations where could a

611
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,799
business um name a property or not. So

612
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,960
we would want to make sure that is in

613
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,799
our policy. Um

614
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,279
we would obviously need to understand

615
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,600
how a petition would be filed and

616
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,720
reviewed. Um, and then obviously do we

617
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,279
consult folks that might be stewards of

618
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:39,360
this property? For example, the

619
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,880
conservation

620
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,360
commission. That would make perfect

621
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:48,880
sense. Um, you know, we asked about or one of

622
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760
the items is is reasons for proposed

623
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,799
name or renaming. Um, and I think we

624
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:56,720
need to probably establish some

625
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120
acceptable reasons. There may be reasons

626
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,960
outside of that that we may need to

627
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,799
consider, but I think we need to have a

628
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:06,000
bare minimum of what we would accept.

629
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,039
And then how do we evaluate that? That's

630
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,919
not in this policy either.

631
00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:16,240
Um, one of the things, uh, you know, I

632
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,720
it talks about a majority of four. Um,

633
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,640
and I think that's fine because if we're

634
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,400
going to have the same argument if it's

635
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520
five or four or whatever, I think at

636
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,840
some point we the community has to

637
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,000
entrust us to vote um appropriately and

638
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,120
not because of our political party. Um,

639
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:40,000
so if we're going to argue a four or a

640
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,559
five, that's just basically telling

641
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,320
people that we're not mature enough to

642
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,360
vote appropriately, that we're more

643
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:51,520
concerned about a number.

644
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,440
Um, and that means a lot to me, by the

645
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,190
way. Um,

646
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,120
the other there there's people that have

647
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,240
voiced uh concerns about renaming. Um,

648
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,400
so we would have to establish a policy

649
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,480
when something might or might not be

650
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720
appropriate to rename. And there might

651
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520
be reasons to rename a property, but it

652
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,799
should be very clear what those are. Um,

653
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,870
and um,

654
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,799
what about competing proposals? I

655
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,880
thought that was one thing, right? So

656
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,799
now we have two petitions. How do we

657
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,039
handle that? And then I think my last

658
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:28,880
note here

659
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,799
um is there oh I put is there a

660
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,039
protection clause for example or of

661
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:35,440
existing places you mentioned the

662
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,440
different conservation areas do we

663
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200
protect places that have already been

664
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,360
named so um I don't think that's exactly

665
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,120
what we can just say here we need all

666
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,600
those changes but I'd be more than happy

667
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,159
to probably put that in writing um to

668
00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,799
share but those were my initial thoughts

669
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,520
because um you know I took into

670
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440
consideration some some emails we've

671
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
received today suggesting looking at

672
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840
some of the other communities and

673
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,960
honestly there is no perfect policy out

674
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,480
there. I looked at four different

675
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,039
policies and and I would bet there's all

676
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,440
conflicting information in each of them.

677
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,279
Um, but I do think that we're a pretty

678
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,279
smart group and I think we work pretty

679
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,120
well together that we can come up with a

680
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,840
policy that meets the the concerns of

681
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320
our folks. Um, because that's what we're

682
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,840
doing it for.

683
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520
>> Thank you.

684
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,120
>> I want to continue the dialogue, but one

685
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,600
thing just um I will ask that if if

686
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,200
folks have like specific ideas and

687
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
things like that that we email it to the

688
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,360
vice chair and I, you know, we can, you

689
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,520
know, to get that added into, you know,

690
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,520
a future proposal. But thank you. Those

691
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,960
are good points. One thing I'll just

692
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,799
note, um, uh, you mentioned the 25

693
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,720
resident threshold. We also received an

694
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,159
email today, someone suggesting like

695
00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:51,840
maybe we should select like a percentage

696
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,279
of residents or something like that,

697
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,279
right? Whatever that percentage is, that

698
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:56,720
might be another way to go if we're

699
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,480
concerned about, you know, what that

700
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,080
what the threshold is, however we look

701
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,760
at it. But that's another option.

702
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,760
>> Oh, how did we get to 25?

703
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,840
>> Looking at other towns.

704
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,440
>> So, it's just a number that seemed

705
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,679
reasonable. Yep. It was, you know, it

706
00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:14,080
started to get hairy as she said. Um

707
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,399
there was it bounced the different towns

708
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,000
bounced around on different topics.

709
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,720
>> Yep.

710
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,159
>> Um and it started to be don't let

711
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:24,960
um great or perfect be the enemy of uh

712
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,440
good,

713
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:25,840
>> right?

714
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,360
>> And and so um

715
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,320
>> Yeah. Which is always

716
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,159
>> And so we we scaled it down, sent it

717
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,559
over to Rick, um and bounced it back. It

718
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,960
just it was it was all over the place.

719
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,200
>> Yeah. I'm sure. I I I I think I I saw I

720
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,279
know the email you were talking about. I

721
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,039
would like to think on that I think for

722
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,120
a little bit. I have I share some of the

723
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200
concerns that Mary Rose identified. Um

724
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760
yeah, what do we do with competing 25

725
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,440
that many? What do we do with competing

726
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,120
petitions? Um and what do we do? So, and

727
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,679
I I've emailed this to you guys, right?

728
00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:00,159
So in England they got bit and they

729
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:02,159
ended up with their naval decel as

730
00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:04,880
vessel as Bodie McBoat face because

731
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600
that's what was in the public interest

732
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,240
at that moment. Um and we hopefully

733
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960
would avoid that scenario here.

734
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,480
>> So

735
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,279
um so yeah I think it requires a little

736
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,480
bit of thought.

737
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,240
>> Thank you.

738
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,360
>> Which I think sorry to go on that. I

739
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,279
think that was why there's a clause that

740
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,159
the town council does not have to accept

741
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,559
it. And although that sounds crass,

742
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,000
right, when the community is saying

743
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,720
that,

744
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,039
>> you know, we're providing our input and

745
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,120
you don't you're not accepting it, it's

746
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,799
not because they don't want we don't

747
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,120
want to accept community input. It's to

748
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,310
avoid them.

749
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,279
» Yeah.

750
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,760
>> Um, thank you, Mary Rose. I think a lot

751
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840
of what you said I completely agree with

752
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,080
and I appreciate your you know diligence

753
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,440
on putting that out. Um I personally

754
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760
when I read 25 I thought that's really

755
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,240
small given that's a really small

756
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,320
percentage of people especially if it's

757
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,640
households and there's a couple people.

758
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Now you're talking about like 12

759
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,600
households in the entire town. That

760
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080
seems to me not maybe to meet a

761
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,480
threshold where it would be compelling.

762
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,399
Um,

763
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:23,279
I I'm not 100% sure on the four votes

764
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:24,880
because there's a part of me that's

765
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,279
like, well, why shouldn't the town the

766
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,120
town council is, you know, made up of,

767
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,919
you know, it could be five to two, as it

768
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,760
is now, it could be four to three, what,

769
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,760
but shouldn't we all agree on it? Like,

770
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080
if it's going to be truly bipartisan,

771
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,559
then maybe it should be a unanimous vote

772
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,039
for the entire town council. Again, this

773
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:46,799
could be 10 years from now. We don't

774
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,559
really know. But there's a part of me

775
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,840
that's like I would like it to be,

776
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,120
you know, unanimous in terms of

777
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,039
acceptance.

778
00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,000
Um, I am concerned about the renaming

779
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,399
and I think there should definitely be

780
00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:05,600
some parameters around that when things

781
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,440
are named because, you know, someone

782
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760
donated the land or some now 25 people

783
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,960
come forward and say, "Well, I want it

784
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,039
named after me." Well, okay. We're not

785
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,960
doing

786
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
But, you know, and the town council can

787
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120
vote that down, but there's always that

788
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,640
perception that well, you know, people

789
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,159
put something forward and now it just

790
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:25,120
gets voted down.

791
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,159
>> Now you're ignoring us.

792
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:26,799
>> You're ignoring us.

793
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:28,159
>> You wanted you wanted an opinion, but

794
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:28,720
now you're not.

795
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,080
>> Now, you're going to ignore us. So,

796
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,720
agreed. So, I think that that is um that

797
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,799
definitely needs to be codified a little

798
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,200
bit more, especially on the renaming

799
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,519
thing. We've already had this name. like

800
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:47,760
why are we redoing it? Um there are um

801
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,039
you know some I think I mentioned before

802
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,399
some you know best practices things

803
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,720
about naming things after politicians,

804
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,880
living people things like that that I

805
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600
think we want to

806
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320
you know be careful about and and maybe

807
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,240
that is like in part of the policy. So I

808
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,480
think while this is good it doesn't

809
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
really give any guidelines like we have

810
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,840
gotten a lot of uh feedback around and I

811
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,279
have provided it as well like a a

812
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:25,120
connection to the place or the you know

813
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,000
land or whatever and I I feel strongly

814
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760
that that is very important. Um,

815
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,320
so I would like to see maybe something

816
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,399
in here that gives a little bit more

817
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:40,960
structure to the actual process or the

818
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,360
names um that that might come up. Um, so

819
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
anyway, so those are some of my thoughts

820
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,039
around it, but you know, appreciate

821
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,519
everyone's and I don't I don't want to

822
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,880
rush into it like I I I feel like we

823
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
maybe rushed into the last thing and I'd

824
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,919
rather not do that again.

825
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:02,159
like take a little bit more time. Let's

826
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:04,799
rework it. Let's put some more and then,

827
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,760
you know, then put it forward. But

828
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,360
again, happy to have people in town also

829
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200
have an opportunity to give us a little

830
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,960
more feedback

831
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
>> and we will Yeah. Yeah. Agree. We'll

832
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,559
have the public hearing as well on it.

833
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,240
So even whatever we whatever version we

834
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,600
if at some point we put something to

835
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,039
public hearing, we can still we could

836
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,880
still, you know, make tweaks there.

837
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,640
agree. Um, anything that

838
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960
>> I agree that we that it's not an

839
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,399
emergency, that we should be we should

840
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:37,440
be deliberative about this.

841
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,440
>> Yeah. Yeah. All I'll say is that um

842
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000
yeah, I think it's a we have to balance

843
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,559
um providing

844
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,080
some actual concrete guidance to council

845
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,519
to ourselves and future council right

846
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,679
about what to consider while also you

847
00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:54,480
know not being so prescriptive that you

848
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,720
know it's ground get done. Um so uh I

849
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,799
agree with Mary Rose in terms of I think

850
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,039
this is a really solid foundation to

851
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,799
build on. Um, I do think that we could

852
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,640
add a little bit of meat to the bones in

853
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,079
terms of like a little bit more

854
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:09,679
criteria, just some some information

855
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,320
that could go on there. Um, so I guess

856
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,520
what I would ask um I guess my

857
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,960
recommendation would be that we um table

858
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,040
this to a future meeting where if

859
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,520
anybody whoever has any suggestions that

860
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,359
they would like to to submit, I would

861
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:27,760
ask that you email them to um councelor

862
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Baw and I um and then we can um work

863
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,639
with town staff to sort of update this

864
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,960
version. Um, and then once council and I

865
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960
are, you know, in a good place in terms

866
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,240
of we've implemented some of these

867
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,159
changes, we'll we can run it by the town

868
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:43,679
attorney and then it'll come back again

869
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,919
for discussion um, you know, further

870
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:47,359
discussion and perhaps at that point

871
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:48,560
setting up a public hearing. But I think

872
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,159
at this point it's probably premature to

873
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:51,599
set up a hearing on it,

874
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:52,399
>> right?

875
00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:54,720
>> Any

876
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:55,919
Chris, can you give me a deadline

877
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,400
because I work much better that way.

878
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,000
>> Uh,

879
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,680
what for midnight tonight? Yeah.

880
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440
walk in the door.

881
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,720
>> Um it's like by the end of this month or

882
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,880
something. I don't know what what that's

883
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880
like

884
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,920
three weeks.

885
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,320
>> Yeah,

886
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,160
>> that's just kind of arbitrary. So if

887
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,599
anyone has a different idea, that's

888
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,760
>> works. Yeah, I think that's fine. Two

889
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,880
weeks, three weeks. Yeah.

890
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,760
>> Okay. So I would say if any of the

891
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,280
counselors have any changes that they

892
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,119
would like to see made, email those to

893
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,839
councelor Baw and I by September 29th,

894
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:31,920
three weeks from today. Um so that way

895
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,800
we can then work on getting that um you

896
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,240
know potential changes incorporated and

897
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,079
then we'll have another discussion here

898
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,720
at a future council meeting or we'll

899
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,880
have a further discussion and um you

900
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,720
know consider setting a public hearing

901
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,160
at that point

902
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,079
>> and then maybe

903
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,880
the community knows that if they want to

904
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,880
give us some other feedback you know

905
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,400
that that would be

906
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,200
>> yeah time

907
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,640
>> as all yeah as always um um welcome the

908
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,280
community to either messages is or to

909
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,800
come yeah to come in person the

910
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,160
commission. Thank you again to the chair

911
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,760
of the conservation commission for being

912
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,760
here tonight. Appreciate that. Um so

913
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,119
yeah, please feel free to send in any of

914
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:10,640
those suggestions or come to a meeting

915
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,320
and and provide any suggestions of

916
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,680
public comment and we'll certainly take

917
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,880
all of that into consideration. So uh

918
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,880
obviously as as uh we've mentioned

919
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,560
tonight, there's always a lot of

920
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,920
different considerations to take into

921
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,160
account and all that. And so the first

922
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,680
step would be to have a good sound

923
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,200
policy. So appreciate all the work

924
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,480
that's going into that and thank you to

925
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,359
town staff for putting this together. So

926
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:35,119
we will table this to a future meeting.

927
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,599
That brings us to 8.3 consideration of a

928
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,359
resolution to approve the revised

929
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:42,640
personnel policies and procedures.

930
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,079
>> Thank you chair. This is just a

931
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,000
housekeeping thing as a as a part of us

932
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,960
switching over from an HSA uh to the

933
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,240
state insurance uh as a municipality. We

934
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,000
maintain personnel policies. part of our

935
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,880
personnel policies had language specific

936
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,400
uh to high deductible HSA. In order to

937
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,160
change our personnel policies, we need a

938
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560
resolution approved by council. Uh and

939
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,160
so we're changing our resolution to

940
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,119
eliminate all the language um in uh in

941
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,440
relation to a high deductible um health

942
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,800
plan uh HSA. And so this is just you to

943
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,560
approve. You see in your package there

944
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,440
is a redlinined version of what language

945
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160
we are removing. Obviously, uh staff was

946
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,760
made well aware of this as we went

947
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,839
through the process. Uh this again is

948
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:28,800
just a housekeeping uh step for our

949
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,640
personnel policies as we like to stay on

950
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,440
top of them uh as things move along. And

951
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,680
uh and attached is a resolution at the

952
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,599
end.

953
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,200
>> Thank you. And I'll just uh mention

954
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,640
again for anyone who may not pay

955
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520
attention in prior meetings. Uh Echip

956
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:49,040
was our previous sort of um health insurer for the sort of the way

957
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,320
we insured our town employees and our

958
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,560
board of education employees. Um we

959
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,040
worked with other towns um to to sort of

960
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,800
pull together to do that. That um

961
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,720
unfortunately was disbanded just because

962
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,000
some other towns wanted to pursue

963
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160
different options and so the town uh was

964
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,680
forced to sort of take a different

965
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,520
approach in terms of health insurance.

966
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,520
So that's why these changes are being

967
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,920
sought. Um Brian, I I know that there's

968
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,240
it's removing a lot of any reference to

969
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,880
the high deductible or high high

970
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,400
deductible plan. Is there anything that

971
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,040
we need to add?

972
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,359
>> Okay.

973
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,520
>> I just have the state does not have a

974
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,359
high deductible plan.

975
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:28,560
>> I don't know if they do. We don't have

976
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,079
it, but I've never heard of them having

977
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:30,720
one.

978
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,800
>> Okay. So that was what was removing the

979
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,720
healthcare savings accounts and things

980
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,400
like that because you don't have that as

981
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,960
an option.

982
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,800
>> Our personnel policies are specific to

983
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,839
our um healthcare plan that we have.

984
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:43,680
>> Thank you.

985
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,950
>> Other questions?

986
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,040
» I guess I should ask to get this isn't

987
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,560
really specific to these changes but and

988
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480
I know we talked about this before. We

989
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,400
worked with our we have a consultant or

990
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,839
something like that for our health to

991
00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:58,079
determine what was the most financially

992
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,880
feasible health plan moving forward. We

993
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,240
worked with a consultant um Seth from I

994
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,760
believe is it locked in um and uh

995
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000
through the process of of discontinuing

996
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,920
EIP which again I was the only board

997
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,760
member to vote against and discontinuing

998
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,440
EIP. It was a great plan for Taland. Um

999
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920
but now we are have the you know we

1000
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,720
decided to move to the POSOS

1001
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,200
point of service plan. Um and uh

1002
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,760
we did that looking at so many different

1003
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,400
options uh with Seth. Uh Mike did a lot

1004
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,079
of Mike Wilkinson was on here too did a

1005
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,359
lot of research. Um we did keep Sigma uh

1006
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:41,119
in relation to dental and vision. Uh but

1007
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:42,800
we have the state for everything else.

1008
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,280
>> Okay. Thank you. Again, just a

1009
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,320
housekeeping.

1010
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,920
>> Thank you.

1011
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,920
>> Anything else?

1012
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,359
Any nothing else? I would entertain a

1013
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:59,510
motion to adopt the resolution agenda.3

1014
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,160
revisions to the town person and

1015
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,079
procedures.

1016
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,240
Moved by council. Is there a second?

1017
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,000
Good. Second by councelor Marshall. Is

1018
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
there any discussion?

1019
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,880
Seeing none, all in favor of the

1020
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,680
resolution say I. I. That passes

1021
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,950
unanimously.

1022
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,839
Please have no appointments to vacancies

1023
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:23,680
of the boards and commissions tonight.

1024
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Um I'll just say as we usually do, you

1025
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,839
know, the town certainly relies on

1026
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:30,000
volunteers. Uh the conservation

1027
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,839
commission and all the other conser all

1028
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:33,040
the other commissions that we have in

1029
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,280
town. Uh we couldn't the town couldn't

1030
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,480
do a lot of what it does without the

1031
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
great volunteers. So always looking for

1032
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,599
uh uh volunteers for that. Sarah Beth,

1033
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,119
can you remind me are there any like

1034
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:46,079
particularly we really need people

1035
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:46,800
right now?

1036
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,079
>> Um I would say the EDC is probably a

1037
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:51,760
priority at the moment. Okay.

1038
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,480
>> If anybody's

1039
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,240
>> I have something on a couple in my town

1040
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:54,960
managers.

1041
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000
>> Okay. So economic development if anybody

1042
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,280
would like if anyone's interested in

1043
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,079
that or knows somebody work for us and

1044
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,240
I'll talk to his town manager report

1045
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,319
which is next. So go ahead.

1046
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:07,359
>> All right. Thanks. All right. Well,

1047
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:08,720
while we're there, uh I had a meeting

1048
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,760
with the uh EDC uh last week that that I

1049
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,720
attended uh with our town planner. Uh I

1050
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,000
thank them for their work. It's

1051
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640
thankless. We all at tax time are always

1052
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,560
talking about getting more uh business

1053
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,599
here, more economic development here. Um

1054
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,599
chair, at your uh direction, we've been

1055
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,319
pushing as hard as we can uh to get more

1056
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:30,960
business here in town. Uh you know, we

1057
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040
hope that it's coming uh at some point.

1058
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,720
uh there is a vacancy that we would love

1059
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:36,880
to have uh filled on the EDC as they're

1060
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960
doing uh everything they can. There are

1061
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,960
there is some positive uh movement and

1062
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,800
positive signs uh that lie ahead that

1063
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,119
I'm not able to uh discuss, but uh

1064
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,520
things do look good on the HDC, the

1065
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,040
historic district commission. The chair

1066
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,040
notified me today that she is going to

1067
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,440
be stepping down. Um she agreed to one

1068
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,680
year to do it um after, you know, there

1069
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,319
had been some movement. She stayed for

1070
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:01,040
two. I am so very very thankful for her

1071
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,800
stabilizing uh that um commission uh and

1072
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
the work that that uh they do. And so

1073
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,400
now we're going to have an opening

1074
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,319
there. She's going to work with some uh

1075
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,319
the rest of the the commission to come

1076
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:13,680
up with some ideas on how to move

1077
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,319
forward to include identifying likely

1078
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,480
bump up an alternate identify a new

1079
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,280
alternate and then uh nominate a chair

1080
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,480
uh her expire on the 12th of November

1081
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
and we'll try to have it done obviously

1082
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,480
before that like maybe even not you have

1083
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
a meeting I think this week for HDC

1084
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,560
coming up or next week and then it's the

1085
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,000
third Wednesday you said it was right

1086
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,599
and then so then the end of October

1087
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,200
hopefully they'll have that all ironed

1088
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,440
out. I'll work with her um through that.

1089
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Um the SRO contract is uh moving along

1090
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,160
um

1091
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,000
should be pretty much finalized as you

1092
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,319
know. Uh the den has recently had an

1093
00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:55,119
application come in uh for someone else

1094
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,680
looking to rent the place and open uh an

1095
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,480
adult oriented business. Um obviously

1096
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,560
we'll be paying attention to that. Uh

1097
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,079
town planner has it. We'll be looking at

1098
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:05,920
our options and working with our town

1099
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,560
attorney and uh zoning and looking at

1100
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,400
some of the things we can do. Dave, you

1101
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,400
had mentioned a catch basin at Mountain

1102
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Spring and Old Post. I know it was on

1103
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,400
the list to get done.

1104
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,760
>> It did. They did they get to that one

1105
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,079
yet?

1106
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:18,880
>> We have not got to

1107
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,440
>> Okay. But it is on the list. So if

1108
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,920
anybody drives over the tires or

1109
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,760
>> bulky waste 105 on October 5th, the week

1110
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680
of October 5th is the bulky waist

1111
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,599
pickup. Uh remember you got to make

1112
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,280
reservations. They're required at least

1113
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,880
four business days in advance for the

1114
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,800
free bulky waste here in town. I say

1115
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,480
free, we pay for it here, but free to

1116
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040
our residents. There is a uh electronic

1117
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160
recycling event free uh on uh the 17th

1118
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,200
of October from 8 to 12 uh at Talon High

1119
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,119
School. Uh thank you to everyone that's

1120
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:52,720
involved with that and our volunteers.

1121
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,160
You know, our 13 usually does a great

1122
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,240
job getting out and helping. Uh today is

1123
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,599
98. Uh and so we our town youth services

1124
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,760
joins the nationwide 988 day to raise

1125
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,319
awareness for suicide and crisis. Uh

1126
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,319
anyone can call, text or chat 988

1127
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:09,119
anytime, 247 uh to get help that you

1128
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,870
need. It's very important.

1129
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,560
Our senior center uh won. They're

1130
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480
joining the scarecrow contest uh this

1131
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,000
year. So I can't I can't wait to see

1132
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
what that is. The notables have a course

1133
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,280
uh September Sunday, September 13th at 2

1134
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,119
p.m. at our senior center. I go to that

1135
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,599
every year. It's fantastic. Uh but most

1136
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:30,000
importantly, I believe on September

1137
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,720
22nd, uh Justin Hickeyi, the the deputy

1138
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,920
chief uh information officer uh for the

1139
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,280
state of Connecticut, security

1140
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,880
information officer, is going to come to

1141
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,280
the senior center and anyone that knows

1142
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,960
any seniors in town knows how

1143
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,760
susceptible they can be to um scams. Uh

1144
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
so he's going to work with uh them on

1145
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:50,480
identifying and how to avoid them uh and

1146
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560
some help. Uh so I'm really happy that

1147
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,319
the senior center put that together.

1148
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:56,160
they literally cannot get enough of that

1149
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,680
training to our our senior population.

1150
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,839
Again, the uh the Economic Development

1151
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:03,520
Commission has one full-time vacancy and

1152
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,200
two alternate vacancies. So, they can

1153
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,000
reach out directly to my office for um

1154
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,829
information on that.

1155
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:12,960
» Can I ask a question?

1156
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,359
>> Yes.

1157
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:16,160
>> Alternates. What What is expected of an

1158
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
alternate on a commission?

1159
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,000
>> Well, if someone doesn't show up, they

1160
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,680
would get seated at the beginning of the

1161
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,119
meeting that this is not here. And

1162
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:24,560
usually they they make a motion to seat

1163
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,920
the alternate and the alternate seated

1164
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,920
and they act as just as a a regular

1165
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,000
member. The commitment is not great for

1166
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,640
uh HDC. Um there's not a lot of work to

1167
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,040
be done. You know, sometimes it's uh

1168
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,560
reviewing a lot of things like I would

1169
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,720
ask the economic development commission

1170
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,960
to say like when the state was going to

1171
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,400
put the facility here, what are your

1172
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,240
thoughts on that? Or we're going to sell

1173
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,400
some land to somebody in town. What are

1174
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,160
your thoughts on you know multiple

1175
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,319
people want it? who do we sell it to uh

1176
00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:52,079
based on what's best for economic

1177
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:53,280
development. Rather than one of us

1178
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,800
making that decision, we can actually do

1179
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,560
it with input from the uh economic

1180
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,920
development commission and they're very

1181
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,359
good at uh doing that.

1182
00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:02,160
>> So an but an alternate goes to to the

1183
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,160
meetings just as the same as everyone

1184
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,640
else. Okay.

1185
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,160
>> Sure. I mean you could even find out if

1186
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,280
they're going to be needed or not if

1187
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,720
they don't they don't want to attend you

1188
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,760
know that we're going to have full

1189
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,119
representation there. We don't need the

1190
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:12,720
alternates to to come if you don't if

1191
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,640
you have other business.

1192
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,400
>> But it would be nice if they were to

1193
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,069
fully invested. Of course. Thank you.

1194
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,359
» Keep going. Yes.

1195
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:27,359
>> Uh on August 31st, uh the the Hindu uh

1196
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:29,040
our Talm fire department was recognized

1197
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,480
by our Hindu community as a part of

1198
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,040
their Hindu festival called Raksha

1199
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880
Bontan. I hope I got that right. Uh

1200
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,839
which means the protective talisman. Uh

1201
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:39,920
it's a culture culturally this festival

1202
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,920
originated when sisters would tie a band

1203
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,599
around their brother's wrist as a token

1204
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,760
of appreciation and love for protection.

1205
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,480
Uh, so I thank this this came out of one

1206
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,599
of our Yukon EMTs. Uh, it was her idea

1207
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,440
to have it and so that we they they all

1208
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,440
got uh got together for that ceremony. I

1209
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,720
can tell you as a first responder, you

1210
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,560
take any blessing that you can get and

1211
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,800
that's all I have.

1212
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,000
>> That's awesome.

1213
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,470
>> It is awesome.

1214
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,640
» I actually had a question. I'm sorry. Uh

1215
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,400
there was a at the end of the town

1216
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,119
manager report there was a section on

1217
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,680
the Connecticut State Police

1218
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,079
and I was looking at the chart at the

1219
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:24,319
last page when it talks about um the

1220
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:27,359
traffic stops and it talked about

1221
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:29,280
um dedicated personnel versus

1222
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,200
non-dedicated personnel and I just

1223
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,280
wanted clarification on what that meant.

1224
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,079
>> Sure. Uh so she what what um she's

1225
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,640
referring to is the the plan I'm sorry

1226
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,480
the uh statistical data from the

1227
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,920
Connecticut State Police that we get on

1228
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:48,079
a monthly basis and the form um that we created here in town that compiles

1229
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,000
all that data uh into some easy

1230
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,720
statistics when when it says on that report dedicated troopers versus

1231
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,079
non-dedicated troopers or dedicated CSP

1232
00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:59,760
personnel versus non-dedicated CSP

1233
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,400
personnel dedicated means resident

1234
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,359
troopers

1235
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:06,079
Uh and non-dedicated means troopers just

1236
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,400
from the troop. Uh there was there was a

1237
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,240
significant increase in traffic stops

1238
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,599
this past month. Um one traffic stop

1239
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,480
last month, 22 this month by our u

1240
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,880
resident troopers. So uh I do thank them

1241
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:29,190
for those efforts.

1242
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,240
Seeing none, we will go to uh adopt your

1243
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:34,640
minutes. And we have one set of uh

1244
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,640
minutes to adopt which is your August

1245
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,480
25th, 2026 regular meeting minutes. Um

1246
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,839
notwithstanding the fact that I wasn't

1247
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,760
here, which is currently noted in the

1248
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,559
minutes, one minor change I'm

1249
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,880
requesting. Uh I'm assuming that the

1250
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,240
vice chair called the meeting to order

1251
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:54,559
at 7 p.m. Not me. So uh if we could just

1252
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:59,040
insert the vice chair called that's it.

1253
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,150
>> Okay.

1254
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,829
» Uh unless

1255
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:08,880
uh any if there any other

1256
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,680
post changes or Okay. Uh, seeing none,

1257
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,280
uh, I would entertain a motion to adopt

1258
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,839
the August 25th, 2026 regular meeting

1259
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:22,480
minutes with the small amendment to

1260
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,280
Adam's vice in the first item. So moved

1261
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,480
by councelor Marshall. Is there a

1262
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,359
second?

1263
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:30,240
>> Second.

1264
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,640
>> Seconded by councelor Duber. Any

1265
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,640
discussion?

1266
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,359
>> I'll do a roll of call because I'm here.

1267
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:38,240
So councelor Marshall.

1268
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:38,800
>> Hi.

1269
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,760
>> Councelor B.

1270
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,160
>> Hi.

1271
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,520
>> Councelor Visa. I

1272
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,480
>> councelor Barrett

1273
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,040
>> I

1274
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,720
>> and I abstain because I wasn't here at

1275
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,720
the meeting. Um so that passes and those

1276
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,359
minutes are adopted.

1277
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:52,400
>> Um correspondence to council.

1278
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,200
>> Sure.

1279
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,680
>> Um it was a busy month or busy two weeks

1280
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,520
I guess more appropriate. Um we received

1281
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,760
two two emails just earlier today on the

1282
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,119
property naming policy. Um and then we

1283
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:11,599
received 15 emails in the last two weeks

1284
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:16,160
on our um soliciting of our budget

1285
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,240
feedback from the community. Um and then

1286
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:23,280
we received two emails um regarding the

1287
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,200
class size of second grade. Um but I did

1288
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,880
want to note like we're reading the

1289
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,880
emails and I think it's important people

1290
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,119
to understand that we do read them. if

1291
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,640
we're not good at getting back to

1292
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,880
everybody, I apologize for that. But,

1293
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,000
um, we do read them and, um, I think we

1294
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,319
take it very seriously and I do know

1295
00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:44,400
that there's a lot of information in the

1296
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,040
budget feedback that we will hopefully

1297
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,599
be going through and and and being able

1298
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,119
to to utilize some of that information.

1299
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,480
>> Thank you.

1300
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,880
>> Um, so this is the chairperson's report

1301
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,599
and I'll sort of start where left off.

1302
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:04,000
Um, thank you Sarah and town staff. Um,

1303
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,520
I asked how staff to print out sort of

1304
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,680
all of the emails we've received uh in

1305
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,440
response to our solicitation for input

1306
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160
on the budget process. Um, and so

1307
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,680
everyone should have a copy of that. Um,

1308
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,160
I'll work with uh, you know, Reie and

1309
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,079
the town will I think we'll probably put

1310
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,839
an agenda item coming up just to sort of

1311
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,440
discuss anything that that's come out of

1312
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,960
that or any changes we want to make sort

1313
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,440
of in the process. Um, because we do

1314
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,359
appreciate um, the community reaching

1315
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:31,920
out. it's always um sometimes it can be

1316
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,359
hard to get community input and so when

1317
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:34,880
we get it I definitely think it's

1318
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,640
important that we we listen and we do

1319
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,960
what we can to to improve the process.

1320
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,400
Um so appreciate all the residents who

1321
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,240
reached out on that and uh that will be

1322
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,359
on our upcoming agenda item. Uh I also

1323
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:48,640
just want to mention two other things.

1324
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,480
Uh this hope the school year is off to a

1325
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,920
good start for all the students and the

1326
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,079
teachers in town. Um, and the last thing

1327
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,760
I want to mention, uh, because I wasn't

1328
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,920
at the last council meeting, um, I just

1329
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,160
want to mention, uh, Lieutenant Governor

1330
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Wyman, who passed away last month, uh,

1331
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,800
tragically. Um, she is, uh, she was a

1332
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,599
great, um, treasure for the state. Uh,

1333
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,040
really brought a lot of, um, uh, honor

1334
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,800
to the town given her service from the

1335
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,960
board of ed, to the state rep, to the

1336
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,480
first female controller, and as

1337
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,880
lieutenant governor. And so, uh,

1338
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,079
definitely just want to send my

1339
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:24,480
condolences to Mike, uh, and their

1340
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,200
family as well. Um, there the Wyman

1341
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,160
family as a column treasure and, uh,

1342
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,800
Nancy will definitely be missed. So,

1343
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,000
thank you. Um, with that, we'll move on

1344
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,640
to item 14, communications and petitions

1345
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:45,430
from council persons. Anyone has

1346
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,520
I want to second you. Um, thank you very

1347
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,119
much for putting this booklet together.

1348
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,760
Um, this is awesome. Um, with the

1349
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,240
correspondence and and I we got a lot of

1350
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,079
thoughtful um very thoughtful and very

1351
00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,920
extensive communication. So, people

1352
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,720
really took the time to they really

1353
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,800
spent some time putting some

1354
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,800
communication together. So, I think that

1355
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,559
would be great if we could do an agenda

1356
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:10,640
item and have a discussion about it, get

1357
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200
into the meeting, the meat of it, um, so

1358
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
that people could hear their ideas

1359
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,880
discussed and we could, and some things

1360
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,559
may need clarification, but

1361
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,280
that I was very heartened by the number

1362
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,280
of responses we got. Um, so that's

1363
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,640
awesome. Um

1364
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,680
the and and I apologize if I didn't hear

1365
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,280
this in your report, Brian, but I know

1366
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,960
we had talked about status of IT

1367
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,119
services given that we're not engaged

1368
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,359
with uh the town of South Windsor

1369
00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:43,680
anymore. Are we still looking at what

1370
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,720
we're doing there?

1371
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,280
>> Yes. Uh it's still a work in progress.

1372
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,040
Um we have Quincy Quincy coming in SP.

1373
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Um the contract with South Windsor is

1374
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,960
good through the end of October, but you

1375
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,200
got the meeting on Monday with Coventry.

1376
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,520
>> Coventry was in was also left out in the

1377
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,240
cold here. Um their town manager was

1378
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,960
more descriptive in its um discontent

1379
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,400
with South Windsor's communication

1380
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,200
through all of it um than I was. But we

1381
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:17,680
are meeting to discuss one immediate plans. Uh we met um we did

1382
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,839
meet with the consultant from South

1383
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:24,880
Windsor uh with our um technology

1384
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,640
advisory board

1385
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480
>> um last week as well or it might have

1386
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,960
been just just before that uh moving

1387
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,280
forward they will be with the the uh

1388
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Coventry at the town the Coventry town

1389
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,359
manager uh meeting as well moving

1390
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:40,559
forward I don't have a big appetite to

1391
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:43,920
have the shared services moving forward

1392
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,680
but we are likely going to share an

1393
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,000
employee. Um the current employee that

1394
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,480
we already have here in town, we would

1395
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,079
assume the same pay as we're already

1396
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,200
paying for him. Um but Coventry and us

1397
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,760
will now uh pay him independently here

1398
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,599
in town as opposed to South Windsor

1399
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,760
paying him uh to at least keep us

1400
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,440
moving. Like he's the person when your

1401
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,280
computer dies, he comes and fixes it,

1402
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,880
puts a new one up and does all that kind

1403
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,040
of stuff like the health desk to

1404
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,119
Coventry. Part of it is a portion to us.

1405
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:12,400
>> Correct. We'll work that out. how many

1406
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,000
hours a week and you know whatever we're

1407
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,240
paying now that's we have to spend uh

1408
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,400
you know moving forward um and then

1409
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,000
we'll look more holistically with the

1410
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,760
help of the technology advisory board

1411
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,599
how how far do we want to go uh in

1412
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:29,040
regards to um managing our own IT or

1413
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,200
working with a company like a novice or

1414
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,640
something along those lines. By the way,

1415
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,760
Novas is offering that um

1416
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,440
that AI training that I had mentioned

1417
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,359
earlier um through um CCM and I believe

1418
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:43,920
Yolita and Megan Moss are both going to

1419
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,640
it. But um Megan could teach the class

1420
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,640
on it, but she's she's going to go to

1421
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,440
it. But yeah, so that that is I would

1422
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,960
have to say our highest priority right

1423
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,359
now.

1424
00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:54,319
>> Okay. Thank you.

1425
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:55,440
>> You know, we're in good shape. It's not

1426
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,319
like we're falling apart. Right.

1427
00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:00,480
>> Super glad the technology our our

1428
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,880
advisory board is still with us and

1429
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,359
engaged. So that let that be a lesson to

1430
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:08,470
us.

1431
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,760
» Something that sit dormant for a long

1432
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,040
time and then all of a sudden you need

1433
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,760
>> we jinxed it.

1434
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,960
>> We tried to get rid of them.

1435
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,599
>> Yeah. We jinxed them.

1436
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,240
Uh so uh just to follow up on that, you

1437
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,559
um I know there'll be ongoing

1438
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:21,520
conversations about sort of like

1439
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,200
long-term what we want to do, but do you

1440
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,119
anticipate there would be like any major

1441
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:26,640
disruption in terms of like even in the

1442
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,400
short term we'd be able to hopefully

1443
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,559
contract with the same individual and

1444
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,319
>> yes, we're in good shape. Okay,

1445
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,240
>> we're not in great shape. Um but you

1446
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,559
know, we got capital. We're starting our

1447
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,559
capital budget. Sure, everyone's happy

1448
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,400
to jump into another budget cycle, but

1449
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,400
we're starting that. Um, and as you

1450
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,720
remember from last year, it is always a

1451
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,240
big chunk of that with the switches and

1452
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,480
such. As it turns out, we hadn't been

1453
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,359
getting the greatest advice um, from our

1454
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:53,040
friends in another municipal

1455
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,240
municipality. Um, so um, it's all things

1456
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,440
that we got to kind of jump on right

1457
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,440
away. Again, likely my greatest concern.

1458
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,160
>> Okay. Thank you. any other

1459
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,240
>> um so I would like to just second your

1460
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:11,359
condolences to the Wyman family and just

1461
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:14,559
that's you know obviously Nancy did a

1462
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,280
lot for the town. So just wanted to

1463
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,119
reiterate that. Um also want to thank

1464
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:24,160
everyone who wrote in around the budget

1465
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,400
process. This is this is amazing really

1466
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,799
honestly. I do wonder though if there's

1467
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:33,200
maybe some way we can kind of summarize

1468
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200
it a little bit like because it's kind

1469
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,440
of a lot. We can't maybe go through each

1470
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,319
one of these. A lot of these

1471
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:42,240
a number of the ideas I would say

1472
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,920
pertain to the board of ed and really

1473
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,200
what is our you know oversight or what

1474
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200
is our input really there? Can we just

1475
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,920
give them here's what we heard? Um, but

1476
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,240
I don't know if there's maybe I'm more

1477
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,920
of a numbers person or something, but

1478
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,319
like here's the ideas and there's five

1479
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,640
of these and six of those or it's just

1480
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,160
something to kind of narrow it down a

1481
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,280
little bit because I feel like it could

1482
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,920
get very long. Um, and I don't know who

1483
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,400
>> leads that charge. Um, but that was just

1484
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,319
one of my thoughts even before we got

1485
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:15,680
the booklet, which thank you very much

1486
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,640
for putting that together. Um so those

1487
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,599
were um a couple of the things I just

1488
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:22,160
wanted to

1489
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,520
>> yeah know and I'll just say I was

1490
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,960
speaking the same in terms of even just

1491
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,200
sort of like bucketing sort of like

1492
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,040
topics you know areas of concern that we

1493
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,480
could sort of talk about so it's not so

1494
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,880
much individual email by email but right

1495
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,160
here's a consistent theme that we're

1496
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,280
hearing right trying to get information

1497
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,040
out in a more easily digestible way

1498
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,280
right so that you know so yeah we can

1499
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,480
work to try to do something like that so

1500
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,480
that we can kind of guide the

1501
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,000
conversation so it's not just you know

1502
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Any other um communications?

1503
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920
Seeing none, we'll move on to our second

1504
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,760
public participation of the evening.

1505
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,640
This has a two-minute time limit. And

1506
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,400
so, as a reminder, just state your name

1507
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,799
and address for the record. And uh I'll

1508
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:04,400
start in the room. If you'd like to

1509
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,150
speak, please come up to the table.

1510
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,960
Seeing none, I will go online. If you'd

1511
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
like to speak for public participation,

1512
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:22,630
please raise your Zoom hand.

1513
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:28,390
I'll go back to the room.

1514
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,870
Back online.

1515
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,559
Last call for public participation in

1516
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,680
the room.

1517
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,880
Last call online.

1518
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,720
Seeing none, you will close out public

1519
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,040
participation. Um, is there any

1520
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,760
objection to adjournment?

1521
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Seeing none, these will be adjourned at

1522
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,559
base here.