1 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:33,919 I'd like to call this meeting to order please rise for the salute to the flag 2 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,680 this meeting is convened in accordance with the provisions of the open public 3 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:59,100 meetings Act of New Jersey let the official minutes reflect that the 4 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:04,320 adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by publishing a notice in the 5 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:08,580 Asbury Park Press Friday January 6 2023 the Press of Atlantic City The Star 6 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:14,639 Ledger and also forwarded to the Toms River Times Toms River Patch wobm News 7 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:19,320 on Thursday January 5th 2023 and thereafter posting same on the town hall 8 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:23,520 bulletin board for such notices and filing same with the clerk the Township 9 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:28,259 Clerk pursuant to Resolute a resolution adopted by the township Council on 10 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:32,940 Tuesday January 3rd 2023 the meeting dates have also been posted on the 11 00:05:30,539 --> 00:05:38,460 township web page councilman sukozi here councilman cop 12 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:42,660 here councilman lamb here councilman quinlas here councilman Roderick here 13 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Council vice president again here council president Latana here 14 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:52,220 item five is the minutes from the January 3rd 2023 organization meeting 15 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,699 the Motions made by councilman cop second by councilman quinlas councilman 16 00:05:57,660 --> 00:06:05,340 cop yes councilman quinlisk yes councilman sukozi yes councilman lamb 17 00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:10,039 yes councilman Roderick yes Council vice president geagan yes council president 18 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Latana yes 19 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,539 item six or the honoring resolutions and presentations tonight we have the 20 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:21,120 retirement of David Roberts Township planner move the honoring resolutions 21 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:23,240 and presentations second all in favor aye 22 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:27,080 Council if you would 23 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:38,780 foreign 24 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:09,780 we're here to honor is this on okay we're 25 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,860 we're here to honor our Township planner Dave Roberts who's been with us since 26 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:19,580 2016. and personally this man's responsible for 27 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:24,120 the VA first of all downtown Redevelopment 28 00:07:21,259 --> 00:07:28,680 he has done a marvelous job I will tell you that we started this journey for the 29 00:07:26,039 --> 00:07:31,620 VA probably about five years ago I guess it's 30 00:07:29,460 --> 00:07:38,340 it started with Senator or Congressman MacArthur asking 31 00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:42,300 me to write a letter about a new VA cboc in Ocean County and when I inquired 32 00:07:40,979 --> 00:07:45,840 where it was going to be they said well we're looking at Brick we're looking at 33 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:49,919 Burke they said what about Toms River my next call was to Dave and said Dave 34 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:53,160 put something together we have about three weeks before the submissions are 35 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:57,539 over Dave put it all together 36 00:07:55,199 --> 00:08:03,660 an air designated an area of Redevelopment out near the TD Bank 37 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:08,819 and we were Off to the Races truth be known we had it in 2020 and the 38 00:08:06,599 --> 00:08:11,940 contractor didn't sign the contract he bailed out so the whole process started 39 00:08:10,919 --> 00:08:15,479 over again and Dave I know in retirement is going 40 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,979 to be glad because he won't hear me calling him every week and saying what's 41 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:25,199 the status of the VA what's the status of the VA but that was important to me 42 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:30,240 and it was important to Dave and it was important to the veterans of Ocean 43 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:34,860 County it's a perfect site you have mass transit there you have bus service you 44 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:39,120 have two large banks in the area you have malls you have restaurants plus you 45 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,380 have the Ocean County Social Service building right behind it with the 46 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:48,600 veterans Service Bureau so it was a perfect location and Dave spearheaded 47 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:52,880 that put a lot of work into that and I can't thank him enough and he leaves big 48 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,760 shoes to be filled and I know he's not going to be away I 49 00:08:55,140 --> 00:09:02,580 said I hope you don't leave the area because if we have a question I want to 50 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:07,260 be able to dial you up and and get a quick answer now Dave will always give 51 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:12,180 you the right answer it's not necessarily the shortest answer 52 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:17,279 so so I do have to ask them sometimes when 53 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:21,300 I do my rounds Dave give me The Abridged version 54 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:26,640 but I guarantee you if Dave gives you the answer you can take that to the bank 55 00:09:23,420 --> 00:09:31,560 and Dave I for one along with all the council and I think all the residents of 56 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:36,120 Toms River and your staff at zoning engineering planning are going to miss 57 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,540 you and we spared no expense on your plaque 58 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:50,120 reads to David G Roberts by the township Council and mayor in recognition of 59 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:58,760 exemplary Services Township planner 12-1 2016 to February 1st 2023. 60 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:58,760 congratulations 61 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,700 [Applause] 62 00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:34,500 I promise I promise that I promise it'll only take 15 minutes 63 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:40,200 I just wanted to this I wouldn't have felt right if I didn't have a uh take 64 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:44,339 this chance to offer some uh words of gratitude 65 00:10:41,339 --> 00:10:49,500 um it seems like six years went by uh in six days uh but we had a lot 66 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:53,459 accomplished a lot I first want to thank God for allowing me to move close enough 67 00:10:51,540 --> 00:10:58,019 to where this when this position became available it was it seemed too good to 68 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:03,720 to be true and then I I also want to express my gratitude to late mayor Tom 69 00:11:01,140 --> 00:11:08,399 Kelleher for uh recommending me at the time in the council for supporting me at 70 00:11:05,459 --> 00:11:12,600 the time and then especially the man to my left uh mayor mohill for keeping me 71 00:11:11,459 --> 00:11:18,060 on um in 2020 and then really 72 00:11:15,540 --> 00:11:21,839 um just the uh just all of the the people I've been fortunate enough to 73 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:26,940 work with and and the organizations I've been fortunate enough to to work with as 74 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,940 well uh the Toms River bid the ortley beach voters and taxpayers associate 75 00:11:28,380 --> 00:11:34,800 Nation different organizations around town one thing I learned when I came to 76 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:40,019 Toms River I thought I knew something about the town because I drove through 77 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:45,720 it all the time to get home but this is an extraordinary Community I've been 78 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:51,899 working I can have the gray hairs to prove it since 1981 in this profession 79 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:56,880 I've been around many parts of the state and worked with many towns and I have to 80 00:11:54,420 --> 00:12:01,380 tell you this community that you are one of the best there is no better and 81 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:05,160 especially the folks that work in this building 82 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:08,399 um with every Department I was I think I mentioned on Friday evening that when 83 00:12:07,079 --> 00:12:13,140 you come to department head meeting and you look around the room and see the 84 00:12:09,959 --> 00:12:17,220 talent and the expertise that is that works for that serves this Township it 85 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:20,820 is truly an honor and privilege to be concluded in that group and I've been 86 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:25,740 able to have that privilege for the last six years so I also want to I also want 87 00:12:23,399 --> 00:12:30,480 to express my gratitude to all the folks in uh that are sitting in the third row 88 00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:35,160 we really do um and also in the first row 89 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:39,720 we really do work as a team and we're really a family I think I can say that 90 00:12:36,899 --> 00:12:43,500 honestly we if family members have disagreements from time to time but they 91 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:48,300 always have each other's back and you'll notice that in our group so I was it was 92 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:53,160 a great privilege to work with this group uh for the last six years also in 93 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:58,980 in response I want to express appreciation to the mayor for all the 94 00:12:54,899 --> 00:13:03,420 kind words about the VA but I remember um they and I think a number of the 95 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:07,560 council folks have been through this as well over the past few years working 96 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,300 with all these different Redevelopment projects but I remember with the day we 97 00:13:10,019 --> 00:13:16,380 found out that the lease had been signed it was actually signed which was July 98 00:13:14,459 --> 00:13:21,779 30th of 21. and we were we got together at the end 99 00:13:19,139 --> 00:13:26,760 of the day to kind of celebrate and I I remember saying to the mayor well now 100 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:31,800 the hard work really begins because this thing this thing has to get built in 24 101 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:36,000 months and I want to just point out even though I've been getting a lot of the 102 00:13:33,060 --> 00:13:40,620 credit which I appreciate there's a lot of folks that are responsible for that 103 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:45,180 VA getting built I want to very specially mention Bob Jim Kelly and 104 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:49,680 who's sitting in the front row he deals with things with that project behind the 105 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:54,120 scenes that nobody knows about keeping that project alive he's saved it 106 00:13:51,779 --> 00:13:58,500 multiple times since we started it the building department that Bob oversees 107 00:13:55,980 --> 00:14:02,100 has been part of that project and and is going to be part of all the other 108 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:06,600 Redevelopment projects that we hope to see happen in this in this town so I 109 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:10,860 just wanted to also pass along some of that credit uh they did they all deserve 110 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:15,180 your thanks uh for that project getting done and I just wanted to again 111 00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:21,120 appreciate the opportunity to be a public servant that's what we do and it 112 00:14:18,540 --> 00:14:24,779 was a privilege to be here for the last six years of my career I couldn't have 113 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:27,019 asked to be in a better place thank you very much 114 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,570 I can keep going [Applause] 115 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 foreign 116 00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:24,420 member of the public doesn't want to stay for the rest of the council meeting 117 00:15:22,139 --> 00:15:29,040 now would be a good opportunity for you to leave thank you 118 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:33,420 okay all right let's go item seven is an 119 00:15:32,339 --> 00:15:36,660 ordinance of the township Council Township of Toms River Ocean County New 120 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Jersey to exceed the municipal budget appropriation limits and to establish a 121 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:44,399 cat Bank this is a first reading move the ordinance 122 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,699 second emotions made by councilman cop and 123 00:15:46,139 --> 00:15:51,779 seconded by Council vice president gegan councilman Kopp yes Council vice 124 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:57,180 president gegan yes councilman sukozi yes councilman lamb yes councilman 125 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:01,820 quinlisk yes councilman Roderick no council president lutana 126 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:01,820 yes 127 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,699 item 8 is an ordinance of the township Council the township of Toms River Ocean 128 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:14,519 New Jersey amending and supplementing section 477-79 129 00:16:11,339 --> 00:16:18,120 schedule 21 speed limits of chapter 477 vehicles and traffic of the Township 130 00:16:16,019 --> 00:16:21,839 Code reducing the speed limit on Cedar Grove Road from 40 miles per hour to 35 131 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:27,139 miles per hour for the entire length this is the first reading 132 00:16:23,579 --> 00:16:27,139 move the ordinance second 133 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:33,660 emotions made by councilman Kopp and seconded by councilman quinlisk 134 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:39,180 councilman Kopp yes councilman quinlisk yes councilman sachosi yes councilman 135 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:44,060 lamb yes councilman Roderick yes Council vice president Gigan yes council 136 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:44,060 president Latana yes 137 00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:50,100 moving to the consent agenda all matters listed under under item consent agenda 138 00:16:48,660 --> 00:16:53,639 will be enacted by one Motion in the form listed below there will be no 139 00:16:51,779 --> 00:16:57,360 separate discussion of these items if discussion is desired on any item that 140 00:16:55,380 --> 00:17:01,560 item will be considered separately does any members of the council wish to 141 00:16:59,699 --> 00:17:07,079 remove anything from the consent agenda uh I would I would like a brief 142 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:10,559 explanation about I I had a resident reach out to me I couldn't answer her 143 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:14,880 question and um you I think I think we're going to 144 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:21,120 need Mr Roberts for you and that's it 145 00:17:16,860 --> 00:17:24,740 I need a roll call for D Delta please G 146 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,740 yes okay 147 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:32,400 any members of the public wish to have any discussion or vote separately on an 148 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:36,960 item from Owen 149 00:17:34,919 --> 00:17:41,059 Pete Mr Anderson 150 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:41,059 same 151 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,299 you wish uh an explanation a discussion roll call 152 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:51,960 okay all right 153 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:58,260 uh can I get a motion please to move the consent agenda with the exceptions of i 154 00:17:54,179 --> 00:18:02,340 u d p and w please so moved exactly 155 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:05,700 I'm mostly made by councilman Roderick and seconded by councilman Kopp 156 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:10,980 councilman Roderick yes councilman cop yes councilman sachosi yes councilman 157 00:18:08,340 --> 00:18:15,960 lamb yes councilman quinlis yes Council vice president gagan yes council 158 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:18,840 president Latana yes um 159 00:18:16,919 --> 00:18:23,100 councilman rotter I received a phone call from a resident earlier this 160 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:26,520 afternoon wondering what what exactly this was I I myself I don't believe I've 161 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:31,260 ever seen this before either um waving waving local review for the 162 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:34,280 Township's 2023 budget so does that mean we're not going to have um 163 00:18:34,679 --> 00:18:41,940 um we can call Mr Talib if you'd like we do vote on this every year 164 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:46,200 it actually allows us because the good standings we have as a Township it 165 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:50,640 allows us to to waive the review process but we're actually except we're 166 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,840 voluntarily accepting the review process we're going to have a you want to do it 167 00:18:53,460 --> 00:19:01,440 no no yeah that's all I'd like to know are we going to have a a presentation oh 168 00:18:57,179 --> 00:19:06,260 yeah okay okay that's fine okay yeah I'll take a motion on item I please move 169 00:19:03,299 --> 00:19:06,260 item I second 170 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,340 a motion is made by councilman cop and seconded by Council vice president gagan 171 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,840 councilman cop yes Council vice president geagan yes councilman sukozi 172 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:21,240 yes yes councilman lamb yes councilman quinlas yes councilman Roderick yes 173 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:24,780 council president Latana yes Mr Roderick you had a question on you I 174 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:30,000 just want to know if this is residential or if this is uh 175 00:19:27,660 --> 00:19:34,980 for you are we talking about General McKinley Court says major 176 00:19:33,179 --> 00:19:39,299 subdivision releasing it's a excuse me it's a single 177 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:47,280 family residential subdivision known as Saint Regis Court off of Church Road 178 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:52,620 how many how many Lots how many lots have we made from that uh I believe 25. 179 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:57,660 include one of which is a detention Visa okay thank you thank you yeah 180 00:19:55,860 --> 00:20:02,280 does anyone have any uh further questions 181 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:08,460 all right I'll take a motion move item you as in Union to release 182 00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:10,980 their performance guarantees second I'm mostly made by Council vice 183 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,460 president gegan and seconded by councilman quinlas Council vice 184 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:19,620 president geagan yes councilman quinlisk yes councilman sukozi yes councilman 185 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:24,660 Copp yes councilman lamb yes councilman Roderick no 186 00:20:22,020 --> 00:20:28,260 council president Latana Mr Killian if you don't mind just explaining to uh the 187 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:32,000 people the public what a performance guarantee is and why you would release 188 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:32,000 it 189 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:43,380 performance guarantee is basically an insurance policy given to the township 190 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:47,760 and the former in the form of partial cash and partial bond to ensure that the 191 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:51,900 work is completed in accordance with the plans approved by the planning board in 192 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:55,740 this case after the work has been done and inspected by my office they moved to 193 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:59,520 what's called a maintenance bond which is sort of like the warranty so after 194 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:03,539 the work is done we certify that then it's appeared make sure the the trees 195 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:07,380 don't die the sidewalk doesn't crack so just to clarify though this this isn't 196 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:11,100 releasing this is accepting right Mr Chuck Hanley can you also 197 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:14,580 explain that if you didn't subject the township to litigation I just want to 198 00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:17,580 clarify something it is releasing the performance guarantee and accepting a 199 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:21,780 maintenance guarantee which is what Mr Chicken was just explaining 200 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:26,059 this Project's complete yes right so we're moving them on to the basically 201 00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:30,299 the warranty period the project been developed as in 202 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:33,600 accordance with the approvals yes sir and the performance guarantee uh the 203 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,380 recommendation to release a performance guarantee would not be provided to the 204 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,980 council unless your office had inspected those uh work and found it find it 205 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:45,179 acceptable in accordance with the approval that's correct sir thank you Mr 206 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,419 lamb good question I was gonna say if you didn't if you didn't follow the 207 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:52,380 procedures probably for Mr McGuckin as well then that would subject the 208 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:54,780 township to exposure litigation is that correct 209 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:58,260 yeah spine or something the the applicant went to the planning board 210 00:21:56,460 --> 00:22:02,039 it's a condition of their approval and they're following what the right word 211 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:06,000 requires thank you just for a legal opinion uh Mr McGuckin if you don't 212 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:08,580 release the performance guarantees if our engineer says the work's been done 213 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,940 in accordance with the plan and we don't release the performance guarantee the 214 00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:16,559 attach it would be subject to a lawsuit then face the law uh monetary damages 215 00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:20,460 penalties and potential attorneys fees for the plan and if we don't accept the 216 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,460 maintenance guarantee the town is not protected in case something happens is 217 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,659 that correct that's correct all right I vote yes thank you 218 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,840 foreign roll call on item D is there any 219 00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:34,500 discussion you'd like Mr Lam no discussion chair just a roll call thank 220 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:38,640 you I'll make a motion to move item D I'll second that 221 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,760 emotions made by Council vice president Gigan and seconded by councilman cop 222 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:46,740 accounts vice president gegan yes councilman Kopp yes councilman sachosi 223 00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:50,539 yes councilman lamb abstain councilman quinlisk yes councilman Roderick 224 00:22:51,419 --> 00:23:01,020 yes council president Latana yes uh item p 225 00:22:57,179 --> 00:23:05,340 and item uh uh W are probably both for Mr chickenian if um do you have any 226 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:09,679 specific questions Mr tremontlin or Mr Anderson okay you can come to the 227 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:09,679 microphone please 228 00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:23,159 just please state your name and address for the record please yeah Bob from Olin 229 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:29,220 109 messenger Street uh it's in reference to the uh the loop what roads 230 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,220 are included in that Loop water 231 00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:45,659 um um this uh item p is well this is um 232 00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:49,020 this is uh really actually a grant agreement uh Amendment 233 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,260 um to answer your question the particular there's really it's called a 234 00:23:51,059 --> 00:23:56,520 loop because that's what we thought it was going to be when we first made the 235 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,140 application it's really uh too parallel two-way roads now Water Street and 236 00:23:58,679 --> 00:24:04,320 herflicker Boulevard a lot of the work is going to be involving her the 237 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:08,280 construction of perfect Boulevard which right now is not a full Road 238 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,440 um the other part of it another part of that will be the roundabout that we've 239 00:24:10,679 --> 00:24:18,240 talked about past what this item is uh just to explain to the for the matter 240 00:24:15,419 --> 00:24:23,039 for the public is we had a grant agreement dated I believe is September 241 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:30,659 of 21 with the Federal Highway Administration for the 5.66 million 242 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:34,700 dollar Grant of which uh is a portion of the projects about uh 76 percent of the 243 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:41,760 project the grant agreement had a budget and a 244 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:46,440 schedule in it uh what we what this grant agreement changes is they allowed 245 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,520 us right now we're in final design we're about to start final design and then the 246 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:55,020 next step would be to go out to bid and then build the project by uh September 247 00:24:52,919 --> 00:24:59,159 of 2025 you're supposed to have it built within five years of of the 248 00:24:57,299 --> 00:25:05,340 appropriation by Congress of the money so what this grant agreement does is it 249 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:11,100 it changes the the budget so it front loads the design into the grant so that 250 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:14,480 all of design costs that we really the only cost we're incurring over the last 251 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,320 couple of years have been design costs the original budget had its split 252 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:22,260 between the Grant and the match the townships match now everything's going 253 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:25,620 to be able to be paid for out of the grant so we've had invoices that we've 254 00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:30,720 paid that we haven't been able to get reimbursed for by signing this grant 255 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,419 agreement that that will that that's a formal recognition by the Federal 256 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:36,779 Highway Administration that we can now submit for reimbursement it's a 257 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:42,600 considerable amount of money uh it's about the the preliminary engineering 258 00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:45,240 costs alone was 544 thousand dollars so we're going to be able to get reimbursed 259 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:47,779 for some of that money now because of this granted 260 00:25:56,100 --> 00:26:03,480 roundabout which according to the picture 261 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,659 the pictures don't fit the definition of Amanda 262 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:11,100 the pictures fit the definition of a circle the circle is where the roads 263 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:17,100 that are your roads come in square and you go around around about where there's 264 00:26:12,659 --> 00:26:22,080 a minimal 30. so basically we circle now my question is this 265 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:24,320 Department of Transportation has many many 266 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:34,860 cons to building these okay one of the cons for example is 267 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:39,440 where one roadway or two can monopolize the circle meaning where there's two 268 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:44,220 lanes of traffic coming into the roundabout or the circle this Mr Kelly 269 00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:50,400 Davis statistical back in April that there's a 270 00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:55,380 40 percent less chance of accidents around 271 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:59,100 important truth because if you look at all the statistics that lead the end of 272 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,760 the Record Service said the same thing where you have two lanes of traffic in 273 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:07,380 the same direction going into the circle the accident rate goes up 60 percent 274 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:11,460 the other thing in the states is they should not be built in an urban area 275 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:15,480 which we are a city here it should not be built where you have consecutive 276 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:19,500 traffic lights you have to buy traffic lights down Water Street 277 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:25,020 it's dangerous to pedestrians and bicyclists and part of the premise of 278 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:29,520 the new towers going up was that the people because the hospital is a 279 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,419 teaching hospital now people would be walking or riding bikes going back and 280 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:37,440 forth to the hospital and Department of Transportation 281 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:43,559 has already said they're dangerous to pedestrians and bicycles so I guess it 282 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:47,400 comes back to my question would be if there are so many 283 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:51,179 companies and what the other con is it slows down traffic in peak hours that's 284 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:57,059 another one of the concepts of Department of Transportation road 285 00:27:53,039 --> 00:28:00,120 so why are we getting something that is not going to help us 286 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:05,840 it's from all the things all the guns beating 287 00:28:03,179 --> 00:28:05,840 this situation 288 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:14,039 as well and my lesson on the decision I was told in April that one of the 289 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:18,960 questions I guess that that I had back then but I was I was uneducated as far 290 00:28:16,919 --> 00:28:22,140 as a man was that the traffic coming into Lakers Grove there well the parkway 291 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,299 going north uh who's backed up in the mornings on 292 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:31,700 the parkway well this year I've had the great Fortune to go down to Manahawkin 293 00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:38,720 because my two grandsons and I come back every morning between 294 00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:38,720 quarter after three and quarter to nine 295 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:48,419 I've never been backed up on apartment so I don't I I think one of the problems 296 00:28:45,059 --> 00:28:51,380 is being overlooked here is where do 297 00:28:52,919 --> 00:29:00,419 they walked at Lakers Grove go and 298 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,559 number two is we still don't have a way once you get people downtown 299 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,480 we have two late roads we don't have four lane roads to get around they get 300 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:13,640 jammed up uh I I 301 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,360 don't understand how the people couldn't do something as 302 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:22,440 simple as if you look like they follow people Mr 303 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:28,559 tramone if you don't mind I'm just going to ask Mr Chicken to explain what item p 304 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:31,039 is before we get and uh okay 305 00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:37,220 um 306 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:47,480 be a Simple Solution instead of screwing up everything downtown here put an exit 307 00:29:45,779 --> 00:29:52,620 over room nine missions in an accident in Berkeley we 308 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:57,360 have to we have to stick to item p and all right unfortunately a lot of those 309 00:29:55,020 --> 00:30:02,360 suggestions aren't to deal with item P can you please explain what item p is 310 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:02,360 into the microphone please 311 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:12,600 council president um item P I believe was already answered by the by the 312 00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:17,279 township planner as to the process of the grant there were several things 313 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:21,960 mentioned about the design that I can explain if you would like or we can 314 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,980 perhaps do separately yeah if you don't mind only because the 315 00:30:24,179 --> 00:30:30,299 design is not anything to do with item three 316 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:35,539 um so is there any other questions uh pertaining to item P please 317 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:40,260 I'll take them up take a motion yeah but they pulled them separately 318 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:42,860 right did you want p and w together or is it separate 319 00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:46,820 that was p 320 00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:52,399 on P okay guess from here just name and address in the microphone 321 00:30:53,880 --> 00:31:02,659 Art Anderson Paul Park Street Toms River New Jersey on P I was wondering did the 322 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:02,659 grant amount change on the amendment no 323 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,899 the match from the town what was that amount did that change 324 00:31:12,059 --> 00:31:18,299 the entire the entire project cost was approximate I'm going to use General 325 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:22,500 number 7.9 million 5.66 of that was paid for the federal government the rest was 326 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:25,640 the match was approximately 2.24 over the life of the project 327 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:33,980 is there any other questions for item p on that we'll take a motion please move 328 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,980 item P second 329 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,659 emotions made by councilman cop and seconded by councilman quimles 330 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:45,539 councilman Copp yes councilman quinlisk yes councilman sachosi yes councilman 331 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:51,120 lamb yes councilman Roderick yes Council vice president geagan yes council 332 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:55,679 president Latana yes Mr Anderson did you have a question on item w 333 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,580 ow if you don't mind that's why the people at home can hear you 334 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:08,840 Art Anderson 12 Park Street Toms River New Jersey my question on P is can I 335 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840 just double the explanation 336 00:32:09,659 --> 00:32:19,500 what's going on W I never saw the wording before on uh 337 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:23,820 accepting engineer inspection fees on a site plan that's not the town so I'm a 338 00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:26,419 little curious on that Mr Chicken will explain that please 339 00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:35,460 the uh the bonding laws for as we've just spoken about did change several 340 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:40,679 years ago not everything is bondable such as private improvements however and 341 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:43,559 with such as this case however the township still has to inspect the work 342 00:32:42,059 --> 00:32:47,159 so in this case we're not looking for a bond but they are the developers posting 343 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:51,539 fees from my office to review and inspect the project 344 00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:53,840 okay does that make sense to you Mr Anderson 345 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:59,539 so an engineering inspection is done by the town not by an outside contractor 346 00:33:00,179 --> 00:33:06,600 it's either depending on workload the township has in-house inspectors but 347 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:12,179 when projects get we also use outside Consultants to inspect 348 00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:16,200 whether they're whether the whether it reimburses the Township's 349 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:21,120 cost for its Personnel or the outside the township taxpayers don't pay for to 350 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,840 inspect the developers project right the developers contributing uh for our 351 00:33:23,159 --> 00:33:27,960 engineering inspections that engineering that's why I get a 352 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:31,820 question thank you is there any other questions on uh resolution w 353 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:36,860 ow take a motion please move item W second 354 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,419 emotions made by councilman Kopp and seconded by councilman quinlas 355 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:47,340 councilman cop yes councilman quinlas yes councilman sachosi yes councilman 356 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:52,440 lamb yes councilman Roderick Council vice president Gigan yes council 357 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:52,440 president yes 358 00:33:53,279 --> 00:34:00,559 foreign moving to the reports move the reports 359 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,559 second 360 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:05,820 emotions named by councilman cop and seconded by Council vice president gagan 361 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,080 councilman Kopp yes Council vice president geagan yes councilman sukozi 362 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:16,099 yes yes councilman lamb yes councilman quinlisk yes councilman Roderick yes 363 00:34:12,419 --> 00:34:16,099 council president Latana yes 364 00:34:16,919 --> 00:34:22,800 moving to the bill list move the bills 365 00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:26,099 second emotions made by councilman cop and 366 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:29,220 seconded by Council vice president Gigan councilman Copp I need to abstain from 367 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,599 the following all bills payable to Berkeley Township all bills payable to 368 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,139 own little Associates all bills payable to the borough South Towns River and yes 369 00:34:35,339 --> 00:34:40,859 to the balance Council vice president Gigan I have one 370 00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:45,659 extension to United Healthcare Insurance just as it applies to retired Township 371 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,619 employees yes to the balance councilman sachosi yeah 372 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:54,839 councilman lamb abstain from all bills payable the bear of Lavallette all bills 373 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:59,460 payable City wholesale zabarski uh all bills payable at Dusty McGuckin and the 374 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:05,040 magistrate salaries yes to the balance councilman quinlas have to abstain from 375 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:10,260 uh bills payable to hands for all uh Remington Vernick and Tech elevator yes 376 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,760 to the balance councilman Roderick I have no conflict yes 377 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:23,060 council president I have to abstain from uh Auto shred PO number 378 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,060 22-00123 and Kearns Auto Body 379 00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:27,380 22-05102 yes to the bounds 380 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:36,599 elected officials comments councilman Lane thank you chair 381 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:41,400 I just want to update the public on January 19th I attended both sessions of 382 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:45,060 the streetscape project uh set by step forwardley Beach 383 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:50,640 um it was it was put on by nv5 the design firm and attended by the township 384 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:55,260 planners also members of the obvta were on it I know they're eager to get this 385 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,440 project off the ground than where looks like it's projected to start in the late 386 00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:02,460 spring however there's discussion that's going to go on through the summer 387 00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:05,940 hopefully if this construction is beginning in the summer it doesn't 388 00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:10,859 Impact Summer traffic too much so we'll keep an eye on monitor that as it as it 389 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:15,300 goes on but we're again the obvt and myself are eager to get this off the 390 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:19,140 ground it looks uh the project looks really nice that you know they planned 391 00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:24,180 out that whole Corridor to Northbound Corridor and and the signage I'm told by 392 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:26,760 the obvta they liked it as well so we're looking forward to getting this started 393 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,880 come spring that's all 394 00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:33,720 councilman quinlisk I have no comments for tonight thank you councilman Robert 395 00:36:31,619 --> 00:36:37,800 no comments councilman gain I'll keep it short and 396 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,220 sweet I hope everybody here can get up to High School North for the uh see 397 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:46,820 magogi hearing and that's all I have councilman cop no comments tonight 398 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,820 councilman sukozi 399 00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:54,300 mayor Hill just want to ditto with Kevin said 400 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:58,700 tonight at six o'clock Toms River North Auditorium 401 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:05,280 discussion on the BASF and jdep natural resource damage 402 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:09,660 settlement of which we were never informed we were never part of that 403 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:14,280 discussion it's a bad deal for Toms River 404 00:37:10,339 --> 00:37:19,320 a great deal for BASF so that's all I have all right thank you 405 00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:23,160 mayor I pretty much want to say the same thing we have I want to thank you all 406 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,339 for coming here at an unscheduled time I know we moved it to four o'clock and 407 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:31,440 that is to accommodate the BASF meeting in High School North that will be at six 408 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:35,280 to nine and that's all I have for uh for tonight so with that I will move for uh 409 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:39,119 public comment is there anyone public comment yes sir 410 00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:42,079 just state your name and address into the microphone for the record 411 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:52,020 Paul Jeffrey 1661 Bay Boulevard ortly Beach uh representing or at least voters 412 00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:57,060 and taxpayers Association and we just want to thank Dave he has worked so hard 413 00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:02,240 with us he's helped us with zoning he has worked tirelessly on the streetscape 414 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:06,480 project I think it's six years now Dave I think it's the whole time he's been 415 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:11,040 here but he has been tremendous to work with he's going to be missed terribly I 416 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:14,280 know Bob hudec's there but um I just we just all want to say thank 417 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:18,420 you to him he's given us a lot of time and a lot of attention and I think it's 418 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:22,079 gonna it has already paid off and it's going to pay off a lot more in orderly 419 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:26,830 Beach and on behalf of all the residents there we thank him for his uh for his 420 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:32,320 tremendous efforts so thank you Dave [Applause] 421 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,480 Mr degeorge 422 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:43,260 just please state your name and address into the microphone 423 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:48,180 Michael D George 34 Mountain Court thank you guys for letting me just get a 424 00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:54,660 your attention for a few minutes I live at Mound Court uh in Silverton 425 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:59,700 off South Shore Drive we have like some serious Street issues and 426 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:05,460 I know a couple of the other residents here have been working with I think 427 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,640 Wendy and um I believe Andy that was out there looking at it but I wanted to see 428 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:14,099 if there's any way I could put a request in to have a pavement done 429 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:18,420 is it uh just uh the pavement is that the issues it's it's got a ton of issues 430 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:20,480 but even so I believe at least no plows are 431 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:28,920 shards are sticking up from it so I'm we're like the only Street where my kids 432 00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:32,880 kick a soccer ball and it pops so I know one of the other residents here his wife 433 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:37,740 had an issue someone else's mother had an issue so is there someone I can 434 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:44,099 request that to Mr trinkelian he's going to give you his card right here Mr Kelly 435 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:47,940 are you familiar with this street issue yeah 436 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:52,200 is it actually the court itself okay it's a small 437 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:57,000 right he did South Shore Drive they did a few others I don't know why they 438 00:39:54,180 --> 00:40:01,859 didn't do ours but it's it's depleting day by day and uh like I said the kids 439 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:06,119 can't even kind of play in it just it's it's beat up 440 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:11,220 right if if you could just send an email to Mr George or a phone call I'm sorry 441 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:14,339 not Mr George Mr kinkelian uh we'll get in touch with you thank you all right 442 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:19,400 and we'll remind them thank you Mr George 443 00:40:16,619 --> 00:40:19,400 anyone else 444 00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:27,060 coming okay state your name and address into the 445 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,460 microphone please for the record thank you uh Amiel Farina 35 million just for 446 00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:39,020 the clerk could you just speak up a tiny bit Amil Farina 35 mil on court thank 447 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:44,880 you crispizzola 36 Mayland Court I've been there close to 20 years 448 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:48,359 and we've called and it's just upsetting that we had to come 449 00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:53,940 here I don't even know who our councilman is but I'm going to get more 450 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:57,960 involved who's our councilman uh that would be I asked you please because 451 00:40:55,980 --> 00:41:03,300 I want to show you our street is razor blades Mike was General it was very nice 452 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:07,200 and I want to be polite also but when I see this gentleman's grandchildren and 453 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:11,579 we've been there and um it's razor blades it should be paved I'm 454 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:16,140 only in the house yeah it's gonna be three years going on going on three 455 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:20,700 years my mom came over she's 80 years old she rolled her ankle in the street 456 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:25,820 because I called the township about six seven times the guy Andy very nice guy 457 00:41:23,579 --> 00:41:33,060 he comes right out they patch the holes but when it rains they just peel right 458 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:37,680 back up we have pictures it's really bad it's the water department came out they 459 00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:40,980 put a whole new valve system in there was a box about that big it was about 460 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:44,880 five inches deep they came out the next day to fix it Andy's been very nice it's 461 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:49,800 been coming out all the time and patching them but we got past years old 462 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,220 people right Mr Chicken do you think you could do an inspection on that street 463 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:56,960 tomorrow okay 464 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,960 yes 465 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:07,320 okay okay and I just the guy handed down the township I got a cell phone he's 466 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:11,040 been very good he's been coming out and patching he knows we've been dealing 467 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,579 with it for two years and when I called her she told me that it's not on 468 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:17,940 schedule because two dollars to become five of my life you can't go to your 469 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,380 mailbox like razor blades we'll have a site 470 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,619 inspection done tomorrow and if you want to leave 471 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,940 if you want to leave your name and number uh with the Township Clerk 472 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:36,560 um maybe we can set something up or do you want to give your card Mr Kelly okay 473 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:47,880 no problem good we don't want anything unsafe especially on Township property 474 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:52,460 right Mr mcbeck Elon is with an H correct m-a-h-l-o south short 475 00:42:52,859 --> 00:42:59,940 anyone else like to have public comment seeing none I like to make a motion to 476 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,640 close public comment second all in favor 477 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:11,400 actually I'm uh not your councilman I'm like I'll still help you yes no it's 478 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:15,060 Ward one okay yeah no I know your words but we're at large so I'll go out there 479 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:20,220 too that's a lot of streets that's unfair come on I'm a walking next come 480 00:43:18,359 --> 00:43:24,240 on he's okay however there is no need for executive 481 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:29,280 session tonight so uh with that I'll take a motion to close the meeting 482 00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:31,400 closer to close second all in favor all right