1 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Mhm. 2 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,280 » Yeah. 3 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:02,560 » Okay, we will go ahead and call this Tooele City Planning Commission meeting 4 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,280 to order this Wednesday, March 25th, 2026 5 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,400 at the hour of 7:00 p.m. Uh first item on our agenda is the 6 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Pledge of Allegiance. If you'll all please rise. 7 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:21,760 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 8 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:27,440 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 9 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 justice for all. 10 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:35,320 Okay, just a quick announcement for everybody listening, [clears throat] our 11 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,200 uh applicants, the public, for everybody 12 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,640 involved, uh there is a significant increase in fraudulent fishing requests 13 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,240 using information from the public notices that are issued concerning the 14 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:50,880 applicants being heard during our Planning Commission meetings. Uh Tooele 15 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:55,640 City collects fees only at the time of application submittal. Uh Tooele City 16 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,680 will never ask for funds to be sent over wire transfers. Uh legitimate Tooele 17 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,680 City emails always end with towolecity.gov. 18 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,840 If you receive a request requiring you to pay additional fees for an 19 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,080 application in an email that does not end in towolecity.gov 20 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,280 after your application has been submitted, this is fraud. Uh if you 21 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,240 receive such a request, please contact Tooele City Community Development 22 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Department immediately. Do not pay that money and please protect yourself and 23 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,960 your assets. Moves us on to number two on our agenda 24 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,160 is our roll call. Commissioner Hammer. Here. 25 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:31,200 Commissioner Fairclough. Here. Commissioner Proctor. Here. Commissioner 26 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Cordova. Here. Commissioner Jensen. >> Here. Commissioner Anderson. 27 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:39,040 » Here. Let's please excuse Commissioners Sloan and Linford. Uh recognize Council 28 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:43,040 members Hansen, Council member Gossett, uh staff member, we got Paul Hansen, Ms. 29 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,880 England, Ms. Agard, and Mr. Johnson joining us here tonight. 30 00:05:43,878 --> 00:05:48,440 [cough and clears throat] Our Our taker is not here tonight, so if 31 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,920 commission members, if you please state your name before you speak so it'll make 32 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,840 it easier for her to take the minutes. She will be doing it by recording and 33 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:00,000 our YouTube recording. So, let's make it easy for her as possible. 34 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Uh number three on our agenda tonight is a public hearing and recommendation on a 35 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:08,920 proposed text amendment to Tooele City code 7-26-3. 36 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:12,800 This is types of water rights acceptable for conveyance regarding water rights 37 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,800 exactions. Mr. Hanson. 38 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,400 Thank you, commission [clears throat] members. 39 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,400 It's an honor to be before you. I'm usually in the back and listening, but I 40 00:06:18,919 --> 00:06:27,040 don't get to present very often. In 1998, Tooele City adopted title 7 41 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:30,520 chapter 26, which required the conveyance of water rights for all new 42 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:34,800 development in the city. It's working up on 28 years since that 43 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,640 ordinance was first put in place. I just want to emphasize that this is nothing 44 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:44,760 new. This is just a modification. What we know with water rights is that 45 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:49,400 the state has issued more paper water rights than there's actually sustainable 46 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:53,120 yield for it. It's not uncommon for them to do that around the state. 47 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,600 But as we continue to develop water resources for the city, we want to try 48 00:06:55,919 --> 00:07:00,600 to make sure that the water rights that the city [clears throat] accepts for 49 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:05,280 development have a little bit more substantial 50 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:11,600 backing and and support so we don't just accept paper that won't be developable. 51 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:16,919 So, what we're proposing to you tonight with the administration's support is a 52 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,720 modification to title 7 chapter 26 verse 3. 53 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,560 And Andrew's going to put on the screen how that paragraph reads. 54 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:30,280 The only things we're asking to amend is to add the yellow highlighted sections. 55 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Which indicates that the city shall evaluate the rights proposed for 56 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:38,680 conveyance and in its discretion may refuse to accept following the 57 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:42,960 information. And it also allows the city to look at 58 00:07:40,919 --> 00:07:49,400 water rights that are not associated or developed or identified developable 59 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:53,520 developable water source, water source efficiency, and water 60 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,760 quality. Again, we want to recognize the value of 61 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:02,000 water rights. We want to give people the full beneficial use of them, 62 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,560 but we feel that this is an appropriate balance to help help protect the city 63 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,880 and make sure that what we do receive is appropriate. 64 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Uh this has been presented to the city council in discussion format be but 65 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,360 because it is in title seven, it falls to you 66 00:08:14,919 --> 00:08:21,440 to make a recommendation either in favor of or against 67 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,320 um back to the council. So, with that, 68 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,480 I'll turn it to you with any questions you may have for me. Okay, let's bring 69 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,560 this back to the commission for any questions or comments. 70 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Just a comment. I watched the presentation on the Tooele City Council 71 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:41,840 and it's pretty straightforward, so 72 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:44,160 and protects the city. Thank you. 73 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,680 Perfect. Thank you, Commissioner Proctor. 74 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:54,320 Anybody else for questions or comments? Okay, looks like this one also does 75 00:08:51,839 --> 00:08:58,720 require a public hearing. So, I will go ahead and open the public 76 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,720 hearing now 77 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,440 for our large audience. 78 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Those watching on YouTube, you are welcome to join us in chambers. We'd 79 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,920 love to have you. Seeing no one approach, I'll go ahead 80 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,920 and close the this public hearing and bring it back to the commi- uh 81 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,320 commission for further action. Chair, I'd like to make a motion. Go 82 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,920 ahead, Commissioner Proctor. I'd like to 83 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,760 propose that we make a positive recommendation 84 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:32,800 for the lent proposed language as presented to the city council. 85 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,680 Okay, I got a positive recommendation uh from Commissioner Proctor. Do I have a 86 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,160 second? I'll second it. And a second from 87 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Commissioner Anderson. Any discussion before we take this to a vote? 88 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote? I. Commissioner Fairclough. I. Commissioner 89 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Proctor. I. Commissioner Cordova. I. Commissioner Jensen. 90 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,000 » I. Commissioner Anderson. I. I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. That 91 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:00,760 one passes with the positive recommendation 7 to 0. Thank you, 92 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Commissioners. Thank you, Mr. Hansen. 93 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,440 Moves us on to number four on our agenda. It's also a public hearing and a 94 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:11,360 recommendation on a proposed text amendment to Tooele City code 7-4-7. 95 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,400 This is parking location regarding the parking of operable motorized vehicles 96 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:19,920 in the front and side yards of residential properties in single-family 97 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:24,240 residential zoning districts. Mr. Eggett. Thank you, Commissioners. 98 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,000 This is an ordinance amendment that we've been working on for quite a while. 99 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,200 I have taken it to uh I think three City 100 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Council work sessions and and received their 101 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:39,839 their input concerning this item. Uh this ordinance amendment did 102 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:43,720 originate with direction from the City Council. 103 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:46,600 Uh there are some issues in Tooele City involving 104 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,400 residential property owners turning their front yards into literal parking 105 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:55,520 lots. And some of those areas are are 106 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,200 it's not a pleasant situation what's happening. 107 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,680 So, the Council asked me to bring to them some proposals in regards to how 108 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,360 the city can better uh monitor and possibly enforce these 109 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,080 situations. They also asked me to do some research 110 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:15,600 and see what other cities in the area have done in regards to this 111 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:20,360 and then I did do that research and uh I discovered or I found at least six 112 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:24,320 cities that do regulate parking in the front yard. Well, almost all of those 113 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:29,160 cities prohibited that, but some of them did so to varying 114 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:33,120 degrees. But, every city that I mentioned in your staff report 115 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:37,120 did prohibit parking in the front yard. So, this request is not 116 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:43,400 unique to cities in the Wasatch Front area. 117 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:47,360 The problem we're encountering is Tooele City codes really don't regulate this 118 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:52,440 currently. We do have some ordinances in our in 119 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:58,240 Tooele City codes that do regulate some parking of vehicles in residential zone, 120 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:03,480 but but not operable vehicles. Uh in Tooele City codes title 8 chapter 121 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,480 4-3, there's there's some language there regarding uh inoperable or wrecked 122 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,560 vehicles. So, we have a mechanism to enforce the 123 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:15,000 situation where there are inoperable vehicles. 124 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,840 Uh we also have an ordinance Tooele City code 7-4-4 125 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:24,960 section 4 that restricts where RVs, boats, 126 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:28,200 trailers, and motor homes can be parked. And then we also have an ordinance that 127 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:32,840 requires a certain number of parking spaces per unit. And then we also have 128 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Tooele City code 7-4-4 access requirements, 129 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:40,960 which regulates drive approaches, driveway locations, and so forth. 130 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:46,440 We do not have any language in our ordinance that regulates where you can 131 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:50,480 park an operable vehicle in a residential property. 132 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:55,320 So, as it stands right now, you could literally convert your entire 133 00:12:52,640 --> 00:13:00,040 yard to a parking lot as long as the cars are registered and operable, and 134 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,480 the city has no enforcement recourse against any of that 135 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:08,240 type of situation. So, we are proposing some ordinance 136 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:13,520 amendments to try and provide the city with a mechanism of 137 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:17,880 enforcement for situations that have gone to the extreme and are 138 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,520 turning their yards into literal parking lots. 139 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:26,800 We're proposing the addition of section 5 or paragraph No, section 5 to Tooele 140 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:31,760 City code 7-4-7 parking locations. 141 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:35,360 And paragraph A reads, "The established driveway or it says, 'Parking a vehicle 142 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,600 shall be limited to the following, the established driveway 143 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:43,960 and to the side yard adjacent to the driveway, garage, or carport, 144 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:48,000 as well as to the rear yard.'" Then it says, "Vehicle parking may be 145 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:52,920 permitted in the side yard opposite to the driveway if the parking complies 146 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:57,080 with the following criteria. Number one, there is a there is direct 147 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:00,080 access to a detached accessory garage behind the home on the same side of the 148 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:06,440 lot. Number two, the parking spot and access 149 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:11,640 lane are paved as per this code section. Number three, drive approach meets the 150 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:15,439 requirements of Tool City code 7-4-8-1 access requirements. That's the old 151 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,800 That's the code that >> [snorts] 152 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:21,000 » regulates the number and the width of drive approaches. 153 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:25,560 And then number four, the parking does not otherwise violate any other laws or 154 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:30,040 regulations. Uh paragraph B, "Where a Where a garage 155 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:34,760 or carport is not present, parking shall be permitted only on the same side yard 156 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:38,760 as the driveway." Sections uh paragraph C, "Circular 157 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,880 drives are exempt from front yard parking restrictions as long as the 158 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:47,200 circular drive complies with the access requirements." 159 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,520 D, "All parking areas in front yards, side yards, and rear yards shall be 160 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:55,680 paved with concrete, asphalt, gravel, pavers, or other similar paving method." 161 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:59,080 And E, "Parking of vehicles shall be prohibited in the front yard area 162 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,160 between the inside edge of the driveway and the front corner of the residential 163 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:06,240 structure." I would also like to include in the 164 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:10,760 ordinance this graphic or this figure, 165 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:15,839 which clearly demonstrates the area in gray as available for parking, 166 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,440 and then the front yard area in white, which is identified as parking not 167 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,360 permitted. I believe that having a graphic in the 168 00:15:20,839 --> 00:15:29,640 ordinance would better assist that. So, how does this ordinance play out 169 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:33,840 in regards to benefits and cons or detriments? 170 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Uh staff always tries to anticipate potential benefits with any code 171 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:41,440 amendment as well as potential det- detriments. However, we can't 172 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,600 we don't have a crystal ball, so we can't project everything that may happen 173 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,440 because of an ordinance amendment. We do anticipate that this ordinance 174 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:55,440 will provide us with a mechanism of enforcement for extreme situations. 175 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Uh it may help serve to maintain property values and sale and purchase 176 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:04,080 prices of adjacent residential properties, though I have no report that 177 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,280 indicates that, but that's a possibility. 178 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,360 The ordinance will help protect the city's precious groundwater supply as 179 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:15,000 the city relies on wells that tap into the deep aquifers to 180 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,680 maintain its water system. We would like to try and get more of these parking 181 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,680 areas paved. And then the ordinance maintains at 182 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,680 least 80% of the lot, not counting the building footprints, to be utilized as 183 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:31,400 vehicular parking for residents, including the entire rear yard. 184 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Anticipated detriments may create some non-conforming 185 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,080 situations. There are a lot of people that 186 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,400 and I'll show some pictures that I'll that'll kind of demonstrate what I'm 187 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,200 saying, but there are a lot of people that currently 188 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,640 have some interesting parking arrangements and um 189 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,560 they may claim that they're legally non-conforming cuz they existed that way 190 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,720 before the ordinance. Not really a problem for the commission to worry 191 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,920 about, but that's something that enforcement has to deal with. 192 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Uh enforcement of this ordinance will result in more work for an already busy 193 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:06,880 code enforcement officer. And uh mitigation of the property, if 194 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,680 the property owner refuses to come into compliance, is always an issue. Who 195 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,000 removes the vehicles? Uh we'll have to involve the city 196 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,839 attorney's office to get warrants and so forth. 197 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:20,560 And then this could be construed as a greater intrusion on the private 198 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,240 property rights of Tualatin city residents resulting in resentment of 199 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:29,640 city government. So, how would this ordinance apply in 200 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,640 the 201 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,240 in the real world, I guess you could say. 202 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:37,960 I've got a collection of pictures here. These are all pictures from Google Earth 203 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Street View. So, some of these pictures are 3 years 3 years old. Uh they do not 204 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:47,880 represent current situations, but I want to I thought that the pictures would 205 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:53,080 represent pretty accurately uh what this ordinance will do. 206 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:58,080 In regards to this property, you can see that there is parking of 207 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:01,800 vehicles on both side yards and a trailer 208 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,840 in the front yard. The 209 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,840 parked vehicles on the far side, they are on non-paved area. So, there'd be a 210 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:13,040 compliance issue here in regards to not having paving for the 211 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:17,440 the cars on the side. And then the cars the vehicles in front of the house could 212 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,440 not be parked there. 213 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:26,200 This one has approximately seven cars parked in its front yard. 214 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Uh this is the kind of situation that the we need this ordinance to give the 215 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,720 city some enforcement mechanism to to address. There's just a lot of cars 216 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,400 there. They've got cars parked in the park strip. 217 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,960 Um in the side yard in the front yard and 218 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,040 pretty much any place you can park a car there. There is a patch of grass there 219 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:49,720 that's maintained, but uh this one could be considered a a a 220 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:53,400 slight uh variation from this proposed ordinance. There's a Jeep that's parked 221 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:57,760 uh on landscaped area, if you will. 222 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:01,000 Uh this would not be in compliance with this proposed code. 223 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,760 This one, ignore the RV, that's a different code that we're not addressing 224 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,440 today. Um focus on the car the red car and the 225 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,600 other car. They they are parked in the driveway. 226 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:21,160 Uh the only compliance issue here would be there's no paving where the red car 227 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,640 is parked. So, half the car is is on the on the 228 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:28,320 the bare dirt. Uh otherwise, where they're parked would 229 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:34,400 be in compliance with the code. About RV. 230 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:39,320 This one this property has ample side yard paving and gravel as well. 231 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:45,160 Uh their car however is parked on the front, so that would not be in 232 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,160 compliance with this proposed amendment. 233 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,960 I like this picture cuz this is really kind of what we're looking for in 234 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,360 regards to parking in residential zones. You'll note that the RV is behind the 235 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,360 front plane of the home in the side yard, exactly where the ordinance 236 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,520 requires it. Uh their their side yard there is is 237 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:05,080 paved with gravel. And uh all the vehicles are nicely 238 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,920 parked away where they should be. So, this is this is a good example of what 239 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,760 our code is intended to do. This is what we This is what we want to achieve. 240 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:20,800 This is an interesting one. They have expanded their driveway into their front 241 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:25,640 yard. The vehicle is parked on impermeable surface and is connected 242 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:30,440 to the driveway. So, technically I believe this one would be 243 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,440 in compliance. 244 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:40,760 This one would not be in compliance. Their RV is parked in the park strip. 245 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,760 And there are is a trailer and a motor vehicle in their front yard. And then on 246 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:49,040 the side yard where they could park their vehicles, uh there is no paving. 247 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,760 So, they have ample room on the side to park those vehicles, but they would have 248 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,520 to they would have to do some sort of 249 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520 paving. 250 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:02,120 This is an interesting one. You can see this one they have parking 251 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:06,480 on both sides of the house. They also have two drive approaches. 252 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Uh this really doesn't appear to be problematic. The the yard is well 253 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,920 maintained and both areas for parking have paving 254 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,120 or gravel. Um 255 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,880 this is another one that we believe the ordinance 256 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,320 is trying to encourage. Uh they've they're keeping their yard 257 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,320 open and it looks it looks well and the parking on both sides of the house isn't 258 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:34,080 creating any any aesthetic or visibility problems. 259 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,720 This is an aerial photo showing a property on a corner 260 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,600 and you can see the driveway on the north side and they have a van and a 261 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,840 trailer parked in the back behind the house. 262 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,400 Uh this would be compliant under this code. 263 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:54,440 This is another one where they have parked vehicles on both side of the 264 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,520 house. There is a trailer, a camper trailer 265 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,960 that's located behind the front plane of the home that is in compliance. 266 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:07,200 And they did lay down some gravel for that truck to be parked on and they're 267 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:11,720 maintaining their front yard. So this one would be considered in compliance. 268 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,160 Uh landscaping could use a little work, but you know, otherwise they are 269 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:22,040 they are just they would be in compliance with the proposed amendments. 270 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:26,440 Uh this one they they paved the entire side yard. Uh technically that would be 271 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:30,120 in compliance. They could utilize that entire side yard for parking. 272 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,400 Uh this one is another one where they've paved the entire side yard and are 273 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:40,000 utilizing it for parking. The property is well maintained, looks nice. That 274 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:44,680 trailer needs to be behind the front plane of the house, but uh otherwise 275 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:50,480 um this would be in compliance with the city's code amendments. 276 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:53,880 Uh this one is not in compliance and I I actually drove by this property just 277 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:58,080 this last weekend and it is considerably worse than what you see in this picture. 278 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,640 Uh there's an RV in the front yard as well as a large trailer. You can't even 279 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:06,760 see the house from the street. Uh very very significant issues related 280 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,360 to this property as well. So, that's what we're proposing that's what 281 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:14,360 we're proposing for this ordinance amendment. It is a complicated issue. 282 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:18,760 Uh, we did receive a comment from an Andrea Cahoon that expressed concern 283 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,200 about vehicles parked in the rear yard and some other concerns. I believe I 284 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,720 forwarded that to the planning commission for your reference. 285 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,480 I have not received any other comments concerning this item. 286 00:23:26,301 --> 00:23:31,200 » [snorts] >> Uh, this does require a public hearing 287 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,640 and this is an item for recommendation. So, the city council is the ultimate 288 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,880 authority so the planning commission can recommend approval. 289 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,760 You can recommend changes or you can recommend denial if you don't believe 290 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,520 this ordinance is appropriate. Uh, feel free to make recommendations as you see 291 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,680 fit. Uh, that's my presentation on this. If 292 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,120 you have any questions for me, I can try and answer those for you. All right, I 293 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,760 anticipate lots of questions and discussion on this one cuz this is an 294 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:59,040 eyesore. So, uh, let's bring it back to the commission. Any questions, comments 295 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040 for staff? 296 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Commissioner Anderson. >> I do have [laughter] 297 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,560 a comment. Surprise, surprise. >> saw that look on your face. Um, 298 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:16,520 actually there there's the the way we're using the wording 299 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:22,440 paved and then throwing in gravel as a as an option. I 300 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:26,480 I just don't like the way we're using that word paved although 301 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:30,040 technically correct, um, I think most people would think 302 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:35,240 that, um, it's either pavers or concrete or 303 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:40,640 asphalt when they think of paving rather than 304 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,640 having the additional gravel. 305 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:48,400 And that reflects back to a different part of the code, doesn't it? 306 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,360 As it said in your presentation. In regards to the ground cover for 307 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,480 parking? >> Mhm. 308 00:24:50,797 --> 00:24:56,640 » [clears throat] >> Mhm. 309 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,160 The only place where we require paving for parking areas is for commercial 310 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,960 zones. And that requires asphalt and concrete. 311 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,640 » Mhm. That's the only place where paving is 312 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:10,720 required for for parking. So, as far as this goes, we don't have any 313 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,200 other language in the ordinance regarding that. So, this is pretty much 314 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,960 for operable vehicles. Inoperable vehicles should not be parked. 315 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,240 » Yeah, we and we have an ordinance that clearly gives us enforcement mechanisms 316 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,760 there. So, this would be for operable vehicles. 317 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,920 And I guess that's the challenge you're going to find is what is operable and 318 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,680 what is not. Can be a challenge. 319 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,880 » Yep. Okay. It was running yesterday. 320 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Uh I did see in in the comments something about fencing, too. 321 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Is that something we've looked into requiring some side obscure fencing to 322 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:50,520 be put around behind the house for this kind of stuff? Like if they're parking 323 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:55,800 in the backyard. We do have a fencing ordinance which restricts the height or 324 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,920 governs the height of fences and prohibits certain materials for 325 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,760 fencing, but there isn't any requirement 326 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,433 in our residential codes that require fencing for screening. 327 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,453 So. >> [clears throat] 328 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,400 » This is normally something like HOAs and CCNRs take care of, but That's what I 329 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,600 was going to say. It doesn't my neighborhood. Yeah, no. We're we're 330 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,760 we're we're old enough city that a lot of areas don't have this kind of stuff. 331 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,800 So, in in when in our work sessions, I 332 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,400 believe it was Councilwoman McCall who stated, you know, the city the city is 333 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,800 not an HOA. It's not our job to ensure that 334 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,880 properties are pretty and well maintained. That's not the 335 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,800 city's responsibility. No. But we are dealing with situations here that do 336 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:44,440 need to be addressed. And so, the council's trying 337 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,800 in the council work sessions, we we tried to 338 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:53,160 put together a code that is as least restrictive on property rights, but 339 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,880 gives us a mechanism to to deal with situations like this. 340 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:01,240 So. That's kind of what I was seeing with the the paved, the 341 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,680 gravel, lime fines, things like that would be okay as long as they're a place 342 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:09,080 to park in instead of right on top of your grass or dirt or whatever you may 343 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080 have you. 344 00:27:09,658 --> 00:27:13,960 » [clears throat] >> Right. Commissioner Hammer. 345 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:20,400 » Chairman, um so I'm let's see, in the blue in the 346 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:23,600 presentation of number five Well, 347 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:28,920 let's see. And then 348 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:32,960 five three. So it says oh, it's different on my oh, yeah. 349 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:39,280 What am I trying to find? Oh, no, it's number two. The parking spot and access 350 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:43,720 lane are paved as per um this code section. So what does that 351 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:48,320 say about paving? Cuz I am concerned about I know we're not an HOA and we're 352 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:52,880 not um here to govern that kind of thing, but I am worried about the ground 353 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:57,360 water. Yeah. And so um is there I'm just thinking out loud, is 354 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:02,960 there any way that anywhere, like even in your backyard, I 355 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:08,040 think if you're parking cars and things and we're worried about leakage, 356 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:13,800 shouldn't all cars that are parked anywhere have to be have some kind of a 357 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:17,640 ground cover type thing, whether it's paving or gravel? And I don't even know 358 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:22,000 how good gravel is. That was one of the questions that was posed, but That's 359 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:27,040 that's the intent of this ordinance. Uh number two refers you to as per this 360 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,600 this code section. If you go to section D, it then requires 361 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,560 that all parking areas shall be paved with concrete, asphalt, gravel, pavers, 362 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,840 or other similar paving methods. That is the intent of that is that if 363 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,320 you're going to park a car or multiple cars, 364 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:45,440 you need to do some kind of paving. Now, the gravel was included in there 365 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,720 cuz the city is sensitive to to fact that concrete and asphalt are very 366 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,800 expensive. And so some property owners may not be 367 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,360 able to do that. Gravel is a less expensive alternative. 368 00:28:53,720 --> 00:29:00,440 » Right. And then is there any are we going to say you just have to sprinkle 369 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:05,160 out some gravel or does it have to be um a certain depth or There's no 370 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:10,200 language in there regarding construction of the gravel sites. 371 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Are we concerned about that? Like or you know, cuz 372 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:18,720 it is expensive to um not just concrete things, but to use 373 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:23,440 gravel, but a sprinkling of gravel isn't really 374 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,800 going to do the job. I don't know. Just I'm just thinking out 375 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,800 loud. No, I get what you're saying, too. Yeah, it's almost a concern, but I don't 376 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,400 I don't think there's anything that we can require at that particular point, 377 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:39,360 huh? It comes down to the ability to be able to enforce that. I know I I use 378 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:46,360 that as an excuse quite a bit. Um enforcing the ordinance as we have 379 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:50,280 is fairly simple. Um having my code enforcement officer go into a backyard 380 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,040 and measure the depth of gravel, it gets problematic. So I I think at 381 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,640 this point what we're trying to do is we're trying to get maximum compliance 382 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,760 as much as possible. So. 383 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Great question, though. >> One more question. On your list of cons, 384 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:12,040 who who does Can you go back to that slide? Sure. 385 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Who is going to haul away these cars and under what circumstances? Like those 386 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,480 were the questions that were posed, but So we had a meeting 387 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,400 yesterday, I believe, with the attorney's office. 388 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:27,280 And if it came down to a point where we had to mitigate that, 389 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,120 uh we would need to obtain a warrant and the the attorney's office would handle 390 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,480 that for us. And then we would have a tow company 391 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,920 that the city contracts with to come remove the vehicles. 392 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Uh we would have to have, of course, police service. 393 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Uh we have found, however, in in many situations that when we show up with a 394 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,640 tow truck to remove a car, the people immediately comply. Yeah. 395 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,320 But that's how the situation would be enforced if it ever got to that point. 396 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Just more firepower for Chief Days' tow truck, right? Yeah. 397 00:30:56,946 --> 00:31:00,640 » [laughter] >> Yeah. 398 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,960 And in the past People are we have done 399 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:09,360 something similar with inoperable vehicles under the nuisance ordinance. 400 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:13,960 This would just switch it to not switch it, but give also the ability in this 401 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:17,520 situation for operable proper vehicles. That's good to know, too. 402 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,240 This is actually been used for inoperable. 403 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,880 And if I could just offer a little little information as to how the code 404 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,120 enforcement department works. Um when you look at some of these 405 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,560 pictures, like take this Jeep for example, it's really not a big problem 406 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,360 with this Jeep's doing. It wouldn't be in compliance, but 407 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,560 we're not going to drive by and see that Jeep and jump out of the jump out of 408 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,760 jump out of the truck and go cite them for this. Um 409 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:49,200 we're really looking for situations like this 410 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,840 or where property owners adjacent to it have registered a complaint and then we 411 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,440 respond. And this gives us the ability to 412 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520 respond, where right now we just have to tell them 413 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,920 sorry. Can't help you. Mhm. 414 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,760 So yes, there are a lot of people in the 415 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,680 the thing another concern that was brought to my mind 416 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,720 brought to my attention by a member of the city staff is 417 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,582 what about during a snowstorm? If someone parks in the front yard during a 418 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,560 snowstorm. >> [snorts] 419 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:20,640 » Code enforcement is a slow process. So somebody has a family gathering 420 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,040 or there's a snowstorm and they park a couple cars in their front yard and 421 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,760 they're gone the next morning. Before we even get to action on that, 422 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:33,560 those cars are going to be gone. So this really applies to more long-term 423 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,720 situations, not to you know, junior's home from college for 424 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,680 the weekend and he wants to park his car the front lawn, although not in 425 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,720 compliance, by the time we get around to enforcing it, he's going to have the car 426 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:48,000 gone anyway. So, just little information as to how 427 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,160 code enforcement really works. It's it's a fairly slow process. Mainly 428 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:58,240 complaint-driven as well, too, huh? It is. Once that process gets started, what 429 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:04,200 is that time frame typically? It depends on the code enforcement officer and how 430 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,120 he is dealing with the with the 431 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:12,040 I guess you say the violator or the property that's not in compliance. 432 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:17,320 Uh he tries to work with people to and and give them ample time to come 433 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:21,640 into compliance before he issues a fine. We don't We're not in it to get the 434 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:26,360 money. We're in it to get compliance. And so, he'll work with each individual 435 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,000 on a case-by-case basis. Typically, he gives 2 weeks between warnings for 436 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,320 compliance. But, if he needs to extend that or 437 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,760 shorten that, he he can do that. The ordinance actually doesn't specify a 438 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,800 time frame. Okay. So. Thank you. He's easy to work with, 439 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,960 too. Just having a conversation with him, 440 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,760 he's so easy to work with. Yeah, Farley is really good at what he does. Yeah, he 441 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,760 is. 442 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Great questions, great comments. Anybody have any other ones? 443 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,880 I'll make a comment, Mr. I appreciate the work you guys put into 444 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,720 this. It's a lot of work and then the city council with your work sessions and 445 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,120 stuff, it's really 446 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,680 it has to be really hard to balance the public good with property rights and 447 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,840 everything. And that's that's really tough and I think for what it is, it's 448 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:20,480 I'm more for property rights myself, but I think for what it is, it's about as 449 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,480 good as we could come up with, I think. 450 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,440 And then we'll just tag on to that. I think that I've been to all the the city 451 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,440 council work meetings and and that type of and 452 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,399 the work meetings and the business meetings where this has been presented 453 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,639 and there has been a lot of work on it and a lot of back and forth and I've 454 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:43,879 seen how it's been revised and I think now it is actually at a point where it 455 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:50,520 is a fine balance between property rights and city rights. And we're not 456 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,404 here to make the city pretty. We're here to make it a livable city and I think 457 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,639 that this >> [clears throat] 458 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:59,954 » balances that. Love to have ultimate funds to make it 459 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,640 pretty though, right? >> [laughter] 460 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,680 » If if I wanted to do that, I would live in an HOA. 461 00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:11,000 » [laughter] >> Very, very true. 462 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:15,360 Great questions, great comments. Anything else from the commission? 463 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,949 All right. While you're thinking about it, we will go ahead and open the public 464 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680 hearing now. >> [clears throat and cough] 465 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,400 » If you'd like to approach the podium, speak about this item, 466 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,400 you are welcome to. 467 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:33,280 Seeing no one approach, I'll go ahead and close the to this public hearing and 468 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:38,280 bring it back to the commission for any other further discussion, questions, 469 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,120 comments. Mr. Chairman, make a motion. 470 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,400 » Yes, Commissioner Jensen, go ahead. >> I move before the a positive 471 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,280 recommendation to the city council for the parking and 472 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,720 residential zone text amendment required requested by Tooele City for the purpose 473 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,920 of amending the Tooele City code regarding the parking of motor vehicles 474 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:02,080 in front and side yards of residential properties as found in 475 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:06,800 Tooele City code 7-4-7 and to include figure 7-4-7 476 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,694 in the ordinance. I have a positive recommendation from 477 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Commissioner Jensen. Do I have a second? >> [clears throat] 478 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,160 » I'll second. And a second from Commissioner Proctor. Any other 479 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,600 discussion before we take this to a vote? 480 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,960 Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote? I. [clears throat] Commissioner Fairclough. 481 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,320 I. Commissioner Proctor. I. Commissioner Cordova. I. Commissioner Jensen. 482 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,960 » I. Commissioner Anderson. >> I. I'm Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. 483 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,680 That one is a 7-0 positive recommendation headed up to the city 484 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:39,160 council for further discussion. All right, moves us on to number five on 485 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,680 our agenda tonight as a public hearing and a decision on a conditional use 486 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:47,600 permit request by Trevor Jensen representing Bit and Spur Riding Club 487 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:52,320 and Rodeo to authorize the continued use of an open-air theaters and meeting 488 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:57,800 places located approximately 240 West 500 North with the open space OS zoning 489 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:03,800 district and encompasses approximately 15 acres. Ms. England. 490 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:07,520 Um yes, this is this is just for the existing rodeo grounds that we have here 491 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:15,880 in Tooele. Um they've been in operation since 1945. 492 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:20,520 Um they did request to uh build a shed on um 493 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:25,840 the property so that they could store their tractors. However, since we could 494 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:30,480 not find a conditional use permit approval on the property, it's going to 495 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,000 be considered a non-conforming property. So, 496 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,440 we just wanted to do the conditional use so 497 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:43,120 they could put the shed on there so it's no longer a non-conforming issue. So, 498 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,600 that's the reason for it. There's not going to be any other kind of changes in 499 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:54,280 the way that it's operated or any um 500 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:59,040 anything else but that. So, um this is just of um 501 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,240 the site plan that they submitted and then just showing what kind of shed 502 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,640 they're putting in. Um 503 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:13,080 the uh so uh city staff does recommend approval. 504 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,920 Is this bit pretty much some basic housekeeping to kind of go over with 505 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,920 them? >> Yeah, just to clean things up and to 506 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:23,320 make sure that this doesn't come up again if they ever want to make any kind 507 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:29,280 of changes to the site, they don't have to um jump through any more hoops or 508 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,720 you know, have any more complications or problems with it, so. Perfect. I was 509 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,360 kind of hoping they'd be having some heavy metal bands playing there on that 510 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,520 northeast corner [laughter] there. I'm sure all the neighbors would love that. 511 00:38:41,346 --> 00:38:45,440 » [laughter] >> All right, let's bring this back to the 512 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,520 commission. Any questions or comments about this item tonight? 513 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,560 I have a question. >> Yes, Commissioner 514 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,160 » of about the This might not be germane but to the 515 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,920 topic but how long has the city been doing conditional use permits and how 516 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,840 does the uh 517 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,891 I I I don't understand why they have to do it now if they've been doing it since 518 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680 the 1940s. >> [clears throat] 519 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:13,040 » Because >> bringing up to compliance but if they're 520 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:18,160 already there, like I So, in our ordinance, the non-conforming 521 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:23,000 section of the ordinance says that um the use can continue as long as you 522 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:26,360 don't make any changes to the site. Okay. Um but since they're putting in 523 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:30,960 the shed that's going to be making a change to the site, so we just want to 524 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:36,200 have the conditional use in place cuz I mean in the future they could want to do 525 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:42,160 bigger changes and you know, this just gets them set up so that they can 526 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:46,240 without having to do this again. So. I'm sure. So, 527 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,520 is the building are we doing a conditional use permit 528 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,320 for the building or for the property? Just for the property, the use in 529 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:57,680 general. It's just going to be uh for the use. The shed itself just needs to 530 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,880 get a building permit. So. 531 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:05,080 So then that goes right back to his question. 532 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,840 Why are we doing this? Because 533 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,520 » because it sounds like the building is what's causing the conditional use 534 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:17,120 permit and not the property. Well, the the reason why is because the 535 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:22,520 use itself does not have a condition a no use approval on it. So, it's 536 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:28,680 considered non-conforming. And so, with us doing the approval, 537 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,720 uh the conditional use approval, it makes the whole property conforming so 538 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,640 that they can do stuff like that without having to go back to doing any kind of 539 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:41,520 conditional use. So. 540 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:47,680 So, we're cleaning house? Cleaning house, yes. Um We're retroactively 541 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:52,040 » So, moving forward, how is the city keeping track of conditional use 542 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:58,960 permits? We approved 15 daycare centers last 543 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:03,600 year, or in that neighborhood. >> We have much better filing systems now. 544 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:09,000 So. Um all all of our everything is kept 545 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:15,120 electronically. It's very easy for us to find things now. 1945 were it's kind of 546 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,040 hard to even find the first zoning ordinance we have. So, um we are going 547 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:25,560 to try and get things a little bit better organized, but in the uh for the 548 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:32,200 time right now, for the time being, this is a much efficient, easier way for us 549 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:37,880 to allow them to get the shed without wasting a lot of their time. So. 550 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,080 It's pretty similar to owning a historic building in our downtown. If we want to 551 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,200 do a lot of major work, we have to bring it up to code. And so, that's why you 552 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,800 don't see a whole lot of work going on. Uh cuz it's sometimes very difficult to 553 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,120 do that, and very expensive. Mhm. Yeah. No, I get it. Hopefully that answers 554 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,040 your question, though, Commissioner Anderson. 555 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,440 Yeah. Any other questions from the commission? 556 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,040 Perfect. Looks like this one also does require a public hearing. 557 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,760 So, I'll go ahead and open the public hearing now. 558 00:42:07,019 --> 00:42:09,039 » [snorts] 559 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,640 » Seeing no one approach, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing, bring this 560 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,520 back to the commission for any further questions, comments, or I'll entertain a 561 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,680 motion. Mr. Chair, I will make a motion. Yes, 562 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:27,880 Commissioner Proctor. I move we approve the conditional use permit requested by 563 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:32,440 Trevor and Christina Jensen to authorize the use of open air theaters and meeting 564 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:38,080 places to be conducted on property located at 240 West 500 North, 565 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:43,760 application number 2026-018 based on the findings listed in the 566 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:46,280 staff report dated March 20th, 2026. I have a motion to approve from 567 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,480 Commissioner Proctor. Do I have a second? 568 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:54,360 I'll second. And a second from Commissioner Hammer. Any other 569 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,360 discussion before we take it to a vote? 570 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,960 Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote? I. Commissioner Fairclough. I. Commissioner 571 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,640 Proctor. I. Commissioner Cordova. I. Commissioner Jensen. I. Commissioner 572 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:10,880 Anderson. I. I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. Uh, that one passes 7 to 0. 573 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:16,960 Moves us on to number six on our agenda is our city council reports. 574 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,960 Mr. Dossett. 575 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,880 We love to see you all dressed up for us. 576 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,520 You thought that uh you thought I dressed up for you. It was a funeral 577 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,880 today. >> Oh. Well. 578 00:43:25,619 --> 00:43:30,920 » [laughter] >> Um we appreciate you guys and everything 579 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,360 you do and showing up for these meetings and uh 580 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:39,000 I'm assuming you're not in it for the money, but uh this is it's it's 581 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,800 appreciated what you do. Um a lot of the things that you guys have talked about 582 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,040 are the things that we've talked about, the things that we've heard and that 583 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,200 were presented tonight. So, there's not a lot of new stuff to bring up. So, 584 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,840 anybody have any questions for Councilman Hansen? 585 00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:53,840 » [laughter] 586 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,920 » Yeah. >> Nothing? When's the chief going to get 587 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,200 his tow truck? >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Chief Day needs 588 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:05,480 tow truck. We're pushing for him. We need it. Hey, 589 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:08,480 we've used his tow truck a couple of times for me. So, that's a that's a good 590 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,000 thing. [laughter] So, not because I was inoperable. 591 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,745 » Uh-huh. It's cuz your yard's all messy, we know. 592 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,920 » inoperable. >> [laughter] 593 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,560 » Well, if you don't have any questions for us, we appreciate all you do, and we 594 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,520 appreciate the staff. So, thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman 595 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,845 Gossett. Thank you, Mr. Hansen. We appreciate 596 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,200 you, too. >> [laughter] 597 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,040 » All right, moves us on to number seven tonight. It's a review and decision. 598 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,560 These are the March 11, 2026 Planning Commission meeting minutes. 599 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,280 Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? 600 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,520 I'll entertain a motion. 601 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I move to approve the minutes from March 11, 2026. Motion to approve from 602 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,160 Commissioner Hammer and a second from Commissioner Anderson. 603 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,440 Any discussion [clears throat] before we take it to a vote? 604 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,600 I mainly say that so I can finish writing. 605 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,720 Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote? Aye. Commissioner Fairclough. Aye. 606 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,120 Commissioner Proctor. Aye. Commissioner Cordova. Aye. Commissioner Jensen. 607 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,560 » Aye. Commissioner Anderson. Aye. I am Chairman Hamilton. I vote aye. Those 608 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,040 pass 7 to 0. Moves us on to number eight on our 609 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:20,320 agenda. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 610 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:23,400 So moved. We are adjourned at 7:41 p.m. Thank you. Thank you.