[0:00] a few times. My daughter lives in Candy
[0:01] so
[0:10] my goal keeps
[0:14] driving down
[0:16] this
[1:52] » [cough and clears throat]
[1:52] [snorts]
[3:45] » Good. How are you? Don't
[4:50] I just wanted to see what was on the
[4:51] agenda.
[4:53] I could look at the phone I got.
[4:56] It looks like we just got one. Good to
[4:58] show you.
[5:07] » [snorts]
[5:58] » All right, Andrew ready to go.
[6:01] [cough and clears throat]
[6:15] There we go. Ready to rock. All right.
[6:17] We'll go ahead and call this TWA City
[6:19] Planning Commission meeting to order
[6:20] this Wednesday, April 8th, 2026 at the
[6:24] hour of 7 p.m. here in City Council
[6:25] Chambers. And number one on our agenda
[6:28] tonight is our pledge of allegiance. If
[6:29] you'll please rise and remove your hats.
[6:33] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[6:36] United States of America and to the
[6:39] republic for which it stands. One nation
[6:42] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[6:45] justice for all.
[6:53] Just a disclaimer for everybody tonight.
[6:55] There is a significant increase in
[6:57] fraudulent fishing requests using
[6:58] information from the public notices that
[7:00] are use issued concerning the
[7:02] applications being heard during our
[7:04] planning commission meetings here at
[7:06] Twilla City. Twilla City collects fees
[7:08] only at the time of application submitt
[7:11] city will never ask for funds to be sent
[7:13] over wire transfers. Uh legitimate
[7:15] Twilla City emails always end with
[7:17] twillis.gov.
[7:19] Remember there's always misspellings in
[7:20] these fishing emails, so look out for
[7:22] those. If you receive a request
[7:24] requiring you to pay an additional fees
[7:26] for an application in an email that does
[7:28] not end in twill city.gov, this will be
[7:30] after your application has been
[7:32] submitted. This is potentially fraud. Uh
[7:35] if you receive such a request, please
[7:37] contact Twilla City Community
[7:38] Development uh department immediately.
[7:40] And always if you have questions, Andrew
[7:42] and um and are there to help you. So
[7:46] please call them with any questions you
[7:48] have before giving out any money. All
[7:50] right. Number two on our agenda tonight
[7:52] is our roll call. Commissioner Hammer
[7:54] >> here.
[7:54] >> Commissioner Lynford
[7:55] >> here.
[7:56] >> Commissioner Proer
[7:57] >> here.
[7:57] >> Commissioner Cordova here.
[7:58] >> Commissioner Jensen
[7:59] >> here.
[8:00] >> Commissioner Anderson here. And
[8:01] Commissioner Faircloth
[8:02] >> here.
[8:02] >> Let's please excuse Commissioner Sloan,
[8:04] Council Members Gosset and Hansen.
[8:07] Please welcome Councilman McCall joining
[8:09] us tonight. And we got staff members
[8:11] Miss Young, Miss England, Mr. Agard, and
[8:14] Mr. Johnson in the room tonight. Uh
[8:16] brings us on to number three on our
[8:18] agenda is a public hearing and a
[8:20] decision from Steve Muros in behalf of
[8:22] Suzanne Jameson, property owner to
[8:25] authorize the use of automobile service
[8:27] and repair to occur at the property
[8:29] located at 397 North Main Street in the
[8:31] general commercial GC zoning district on
[8:35] 26 acres.
[8:38] Miss
[8:41] >> Yes. So, um we did do uh go through a
[8:45] conditional use approval uh like last
[8:48] month for a car rental uh of
[8:53] or car dealership here. And um they are
[8:57] the property owners, but they have
[8:59] decided to go ahead and lease this
[9:02] property to an automotive auto
[9:05] automotive repair and service um
[9:08] business instead. Um and so we do have
[9:12] to go through the conditional use
[9:13] process again because it is not the use
[9:16] we did approve um with the dealership.
[9:21] Um so as you can see this is in the
[9:24] general commercial zoning district
[9:27] uh and all surrounding uh properties are
[9:32] zoned GC but there are some
[9:34] non-conforming residential uses that are
[9:37] adjacent to this property as well.
[9:41] Um,
[9:44] again, the proposed business hours are
[9:47] Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 6:00
[9:49] p.m. and Saturday 8 to 3:00 p.m. Um, and
[9:54] the reason why I bring that up is
[9:56] because automotive services are going to
[9:59] be a little bit louder than a car
[10:01] dealership because there's going to be
[10:03] constant
[10:04] um noise from um cars being repaired and
[10:09] tools being used and that type of thing
[10:12] there. And so,
[10:15] uh, one of the things that we are
[10:17] recommending is that we put, um, a limit
[10:22] on the time frame as far as them using
[10:25] the louder, um, tools and that type of
[10:28] thing with the card, uh, auto repair
[10:30] shop. And so, um, that is one condition
[10:35] of approval that we, uh, that the staff
[10:38] is recommending. And then this is also
[10:42] again the auto repair shop. We've got um
[10:49] Okay, we've got the um
[10:53] site where they're going to be storing
[10:56] the um vehicles that are getting ready
[10:59] to be repaired on uh the west side of
[11:03] the building. Um, it is currently there
[11:07] is a like a rod iron fence across the
[11:10] front of it and I'll get to that and
[11:12] show that to you a little bit later. Um,
[11:15] this is also the front side or the main
[11:18] street side of the building. There is um
[11:23] parking that is available there. There's
[11:25] a handicap stall along with [gasps]
[11:28] a couple additional um off- streetet
[11:31] parking spaces. On the original
[11:33] approval, we did uh put in the condition
[11:37] that uh there's no on street parking for
[11:41] their customers and I was just going to
[11:43] carry through with that or carry that on
[11:45] to this condition of approval as well.
[11:48] Um
[11:49] this is an aerial view of all of it. Um
[11:57] and then again on the prior approval we
[12:00] did uh say that or put on the condition
[12:04] to help reduce any issues with lighting
[12:07] that all any new lighting that is
[12:10] installed does need to be completely
[12:13] covered and shining downward and onto
[12:16] the property. So that was another
[12:18] condition of approval with this again
[12:20] that was carried over. Um
[12:22] [clears throat]
[12:25] and then this is going to be site
[12:27] fencing. Um
[12:31] I did get the opportunity to go in and
[12:34] take a couple of um
[12:38] pictures here. the first one. This is
[12:40] the one that is across the street from
[12:44] the um automotive repair shop and it's
[12:48] just showing the fence that is there
[12:50] right now. That's the rot iron fencing.
[12:52] And then this is um the fencing that is
[12:56] facing westward. And so um that is not
[13:02] an a a solid fence just so you guys are
[13:06] aware. And then there is also um some
[13:09] fencing towards the west and then um
[13:13] south portion of the property that does
[13:16] have solid fencing. There is also
[13:19] fencing or this is from inside the the
[13:24] um
[13:25] parking area looking on 400 north and um
[13:31] that's just showing you the view of the
[13:33] rod iron fencing as well. This is a view
[13:37] of the
[13:40] backside of the property showing the um
[13:44] [snorts] type of fencing. It's not
[13:46] really quite fencing. Again, it's not um
[13:50] it's not really a permanent fencing.
[13:52] It's more like a I don't know, like a
[13:54] chicken wire type of thing, a fence. And
[13:57] then this is also a better closeup. And
[14:01] this is right next to the auto repair
[14:03] shop.
[14:05] And so one of the things that we are
[14:08] recommending or staff is recommending is
[14:10] that they put a solid fence in the areas
[14:14] that um do not have one. So that is the
[14:19] other condition of approval. [snorts] So
[14:22] recommended uh motion is to approve the
[14:26] conditional use with the conditions of
[14:29] approval that I discussed. So, if
[14:32] there's any questions, please let me
[14:34] know.
[14:36] >> Perfect. Let's bring this back to the
[14:37] commission for questions or comments.
[14:40] >> Yes, Commissioner Lford. When you're
[14:42] saying to put more permanent fencing in,
[14:44] is that to replace the chicken wire that
[14:46] is pre-existing or just in certain areas
[14:48] where the fencing is lacking? Um well
[14:52] the certain areas which is the chicken
[14:54] wire where the fencing is l lacking
[14:57] because our ordinance does say that um
[15:02] there should be I'm sorry let me look
[15:04] this up again. Um, our ordinance does
[15:08] require fencing and buffer against
[15:12] properties that are commercial that are
[15:14] against residential zones, but it
[15:17] doesn't really um cover if it's all in
[15:20] the general commercial zone and it's up
[15:22] against residential uses. But since this
[15:25] is a condition a conditional use, that
[15:28] could be something that we would need to
[15:30] do to mitigate any kind of issues that
[15:33] would arise with the commercial being
[15:36] next to residential.
[15:38] So,
[15:39] >> and does staff find the the iron fencing
[15:41] that they've put in recently sufficient
[15:43] to meet that requirement as well?
[15:46] >> I feel they carried that forward. So the
[15:48] um the thing with that is that it's so
[15:51] close to the street, it would be better
[15:54] for it to have some visibility. And I
[15:57] think that the rod of iron fence where
[15:59] that is located right now does make
[16:01] sense
[16:04] » around the rest of the property. It
[16:05] needs to be sight obscuring, right? Um,
[16:09] that's really up to yours. My you guys,
[16:12] but my recommendation is that we do put
[16:14] the side obscuring fencing there in the
[16:17] areas that don't have it.
[16:19] >> Perfect.
[16:24] » Any other questions, concerns, comments
[16:26] from the commission?
[16:28] >> Chairman, I have a comment.
[16:30] >> I have a concern actually with the
[16:32] parking. We did talk about customers um
[16:35] not parking on the street. Mhm.
[16:37] >> Um but with this being an automobile um
[16:41] auto service and repair, there will be a
[16:45] lot of cars probably.
[16:47] What should we think about including no
[16:50] employee parking off on streets? Also,
[16:55] I've seen some of these um service
[16:57] repair places be just full of cars that
[17:01] I'm concerned that there won't be places
[17:03] for their employees to park. So, I did
[17:06] speak with the applicant about that and
[17:09] he did he did say that um there is like
[17:13] a time limit on how long the cars that
[17:17] are waiting to be repaired can be on
[17:20] site. So, um I can let him go into
[17:24] details. I believe he is here right now
[17:27] on how he is planning on doing that. Um,
[17:31] I think looking at the lot, it looks
[17:34] like there's
[17:36] um there's a bit of room onsite and then
[17:40] really it wouldn't make sense to do off
[17:43] offsite parking. Um, it just would be
[17:47] really dangerous off of 400 North and
[17:49] then um up in front of Main Street. All
[17:53] of that is just approach and you know
[17:56] like drive in and drive out areas.
[18:00] that are right next to the building. It
[18:03] just it wouldn't really be intuitive for
[18:06] people to park on the street there
[18:08] really. So,
[18:10] >> I just know there were concerns with the
[18:11] homeowner nearby that
[18:14] >> um in the previous business that they
[18:16] were parking
[18:17] >> in front of their road. Yeah. Or in
[18:19] front of their house. Yeah. Um, and that
[18:22] is a condition of approval that we did
[18:25] carry over so we can still keep that in
[18:28] place and that was a part of the
[18:30] recommendation as well.
[18:32] >> Thank you.
[18:33] >> Yeah.
[18:35] Just looking at this picture right
[18:36] here, it's a turn lane right there
[18:37] anyway. So there should be no on street
[18:39] parking period.
[18:40] >> Yeah.
[18:43] >> I think to your point though, I think
[18:45] that we should add customer and employee
[18:49] [snorts]
[18:52] It was a concern before.
[18:54] >> Yeah.
[18:55] >> Or problem. Not a concern, but problem.
[18:57] >> No. Good point.
[19:00] >> Yes. Commission.
[19:00] >> The only other concern that I'm going to
[19:03] bring back up is I recall that we had
[19:05] another um [clears throat and cough]
[19:07] conditional use permit for an auto
[19:09] repair facility. And part of that
[19:11] included towing, getting vehicles to the
[19:13] property, and how many vehicles could be
[19:15] on the property. Um, I just bring that
[19:18] up more as a as a comment and a
[19:20] refresher from our previous meetings,
[19:22] but I would withhold any questioning on
[19:24] that until the the owner is up
[19:26] >> for questions and available for those as
[19:28] well.
[19:29] >> So, the applicant has not covered towing
[19:31] any kind of towing details, but he is
[19:33] here to answer those questions. So,
[19:36] >> perfect. Thank you.
[19:39] >> In our previous cup, we actually limited
[19:43] the number of vehicles to 10 on site. So
[19:47] maybe we might want to continue continue
[19:50] that forward with this.
[19:56] Great questions, comments, concerns.
[19:59] Any other ones from the commission?
[20:05] Perfect. We'll let you guys marinate on
[20:07] it a little bit. The way this is going
[20:08] to work is I'm going to open the public
[20:09] hearing, give the public an opportunity
[20:11] to speak, and then when I close the
[20:12] public hearing, I'll invite the
[20:13] applicant up. then you can address
[20:15] whatever questions the public and we
[20:17] have with the best of your knowledge.
[20:19] How about that?
[20:20] >> Perfect. Great. All right. With that
[20:22] being said, we'll go ahead and open the
[20:23] public hearing now and invite the public
[20:25] up to uh please address us with your
[20:27] concerns.
[20:30] When you come up, please state your name
[20:31] for the record and then write your name
[20:33] on the paper for the record as well,
[20:34] please.
[21:00] Oops.
[21:03] Uh, my name is Lorine Mascerinius. I am
[21:06] I own the property west of the the
[21:11] building right there next to the
[21:13] parking. Um
[21:16] many of my questions were already
[21:18] answered with what she has said, but um
[21:22] so so this is going to override the
[21:26] other which we already did the other
[21:30] week. So um
[21:33] does this mean that we're going to have
[21:35] like early morning dumpster pickup and
[21:38] how often uh are they going to put a
[21:40] dumpster in there? Um
[21:44] let's see. Um and my my biggest concern
[21:49] really is um environmentally what does
[21:52] this mean about the waste management?
[21:55] Like are there floor drains that have
[21:57] the that have the required uh that are
[22:02] equipped with the oil grease traps or
[22:04] how is that going to be cleaned up?
[22:05] because I noticed that when they were
[22:06] cleaning out their bay the other day,
[22:08] the water was just being washed out to
[22:10] the road and to the um [snorts] into the
[22:14] gutters, water was coming down through
[22:15] the gutters. So, I'm just curious as to
[22:17] where where is this waste going to go
[22:21] like and is [snorts] it where is it
[22:23] going to be stored while it's waiting to
[22:26] be picked up if they're doing a pickup
[22:28] type
[22:30] thing? Um,
[22:33] and I know that years prior when there
[22:35] was a a building that had um there was a
[22:40] auto repair, we had issues with um with
[22:43] the the oil and stuff not being uh
[22:46] disposed of properly. So, that's like
[22:49] one of my big concerns right there. And
[22:51] then um also I just want to um
[22:56] give a reminder about the American
[22:58] Disabilities Act about the no parking on
[23:00] the sidewalks because I've seen that
[23:02] happen a lot with the businesses. In
[23:04] fact, the other business up on Main
[23:06] Street has I've seen some of their cars
[23:09] parked there. So, but these guys are not
[23:11] going to be displaying cars and stuff.
[23:13] So, um I I know that it has to be
[23:16] whether it be customer or or business
[23:19] cars that they're not to be parked on
[23:22] the driveway. Um I didn't realize how
[23:25] much that affected people until my mom
[23:28] was in a wheelchair and had to wheel her
[23:30] around and had to backtrack so many
[23:32] times just to get around vehicles. So,
[23:34] it's really important that that's noted
[23:37] and make sure that their vehicles are
[23:39] not on the sidewalks. A lot of traffic
[23:41] comes down that sidewalk. So
[23:44] just that's pretty much all I have right
[23:46] now. So
[23:47] >> thanks.
[23:48] >> Thank you, Miss Mr.
[23:49] >> Thank you.
[24:01] [snorts]
[24:06] » [snorts]
[24:21] » Hi, my name is Kip Mner and I live to
[24:24] the [clears throat] north across the
[24:26] street. Here's a picture of some of the
[24:27] vendors. They're on the sidewalk
[24:32] and this is because they had cars in
[24:34] their parking lot in the front. So, you
[24:37] know, number one is nobody can walk on
[24:40] the sidewalk.
[24:42] Uh,
[24:45] I'd like to see it stay at 10 cars
[24:49] and, you know, have it have that limited
[24:52] for the for the lot because
[24:56] if they can't if they don't have room in
[24:57] there to work on cars, so many cars,
[25:01] they're going to have to park them on
[25:02] the streets to get in and out. It's a
[25:05] congested area.
[25:07] Bad.
[25:09] Uh,
[25:11] [clears throat] I'd like to see some
[25:12] privacy stuff on the rod iron fence,
[25:15] too.
[25:17] And they're right across the street. And
[25:19] I don't want to look at like the old
[25:21] mess that used to be there,
[25:24] which was supposed to have a fence
[25:26] before, but they never did do it. That
[25:28] was uh
[25:30] 11 12 years ago. It was Main Street Auto
[25:33] Garage Repair, whatever. It was a mess.
[25:38] Uh
[25:40] guess that's about it. Main concerns the
[25:43] parking and
[25:45] vendors and stuff where they got to get
[25:48] in the lot their lot. They can't do
[25:50] their business in the street. So
[25:56] that's about it I guess. [snorts]
[25:58] >> Thank you. Appreciate that, Mr. Mutter.
[26:13] » [snorts]
[26:14] >> Okay, seeing no one else approach, I'll
[26:16] go ahead and close the public hearing,
[26:18] invite the applicant up to come address
[26:20] the commission, and maybe address some
[26:22] of the questions that we may have for
[26:24] you.
[26:36] I need to sign this, right?
[26:37] >> Yes, please. And then state your name
[26:38] for the record.
[26:50] [snorts]
[26:53] Hey, my name is Steve Morose.
[27:01] And then I guess yeah, if you guys have
[27:03] got some questions for me, I can get
[27:05] those answered and then I can kind of go
[27:06] off of [clears throat] some of the notes
[27:08] that we've taken and stuff.
[27:10] >> Okay, perfect. Bring it to the
[27:11] commission. You got any questions for
[27:12] the applicants?
[27:14] >> Yes, Commissioner Lford.
[27:16] >> So, I'm just going to come back to some
[27:18] of the questions on the public hearing
[27:20] and then go to my own if that's all
[27:22] right. The first one is going to be that
[27:23] waste management. Do you know is the
[27:25] building already equipped to handle
[27:27] waste or do you have a plan in place for
[27:29] I mean if you guys are doing auto
[27:30] repairs, engines, transmissions, and
[27:32] heavier repairs like that. I know that leaks all over the floor. Do you
[27:36] have a a spill plan in place? Do you
[27:38] have drains or is this going to be kind
[27:40] of a repeat of of past situations that
[27:42] the public has brought up where it's
[27:44] going to be leaked out into into the
[27:46] gutters and rainwater and such?
[27:48] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, actually as of the
[27:51] other day, [clears throat] right, like
[27:52] there was no oil, you know, it was just
[27:54] we were washing the floor like the, you
[27:56] know, dust and stuff off the floor so it
[27:57] wasn't getting trapped in the office.
[27:59] But yes, I do, um, you know, they make
[28:01] the, uh, oil absorbent socks, you know,
[28:03] stuff. So, if there is, you know, spill
[28:04] or anything like that, that absorbs
[28:06] them. Um, I mean, every shop that I've
[28:09] ever ran and been at, um, you know, we,
[28:12] uh, we've got bags of floor dry on site,
[28:15] you know, you get all that up. We have a metal dumpster, a metal bin, you know,
[28:20] you put all that stuff in and then
[28:22] dispose of that. Um, I do have a oil
[28:24] company that I'm working with that it's
[28:26] all going to be contained. The waste oil
[28:28] will be contained. Um, the new oil will
[28:30] have a containment system and stuff as
[28:33] well.
[28:34] With the previous limit on the previous
[28:37] uh conditional use permit of 10
[28:39] vehicles, is that going to still be
[28:40] enough space to get those oil trucks in
[28:43] and out and be able to get um which
[28:46] brings me up to my next question. Are
[28:48] you planning on towing vehicles in? Um
[28:50] and if so, do you have a plan on how
[28:52] long those will be on property?
[28:54] >> Yep. Exactly. So, um yes, we
[28:56] [clears throat] will have plenty of uh
[28:58] plenty of space. Um, I asked that I mean
[29:01] 11 spots because if you look at that uh
[29:04] right by the front door, that bay right
[29:06] there. Um, we're not going to be doing
[29:09] too much work out of that bay. So, it'll
[29:12] typically just be my truck that is
[29:14] parked there. U, but I totally
[29:16] understand and agree. Yeah, I mean, with
[29:17] the parking, you're crazy if you're
[29:19] parking out on the street there. I mean,
[29:21] you're asking for problems [snorts] and
[29:23] that's something that me and my staff
[29:24] will have to, you know, mitigate and
[29:26] continue to get cars pulled back and
[29:30] talking with customers of, hey, you
[29:31] know, we can't park there. Definitely
[29:33] mindful of that. I mean, first and
[29:34] foremost is safety is everything to me.
[29:38] So, and that's everywhere I've been.
[29:41] >> And then, are you guys going to be
[29:43] utilizing different tow companies or
[29:44] have your own tow truck on site? No, we
[29:47] would just uh so it's just customers if
[29:49] they need their car towed in, you know,
[29:50] to be towed in. Um that depends, you
[29:53] know, of how the length of time, you
[29:55] know, that'll be there depending on, you
[29:57] know, repairs. But any car that gets
[29:59] towed in, especially if it's overnight
[30:01] or anything, we will get it moved, get
[30:02] it uh moved around to the back lot, you
[30:05] know, is pretty much um how that works.
[30:07] But as to um the point that you were
[30:10] talking about is any cars, so I've got a
[30:12] very strict limit, and this has been at
[30:14] every shop I've ever been at. I don't
[30:16] like clutter and I don't like stuff
[30:18] building up. I am very OCD about that
[30:21] stuff. Um, and so what my thing is on
[30:26] that for any customer and I hang signs
[30:27] up saying it, any car that is left there
[30:30] for, you know, more than, you know, 4
[30:33] days to a week, um, I charge a fee,
[30:36] right, of how long it is there, it's a
[30:38] $50 fee each day that the vehicle is
[30:41] there. And then at that point, I have it
[30:42] towed and impounded. So, I don't have
[30:45] cars because to me that's money that's
[30:47] sitting in my lot that I'm not being
[30:50] able to do anything with it. I can't
[30:52] have it. [clears throat] So, and it's
[30:53] also space that I can't use. So,
[30:56] >> and then with the concern of vendors, I
[30:58] mean, he showed a believe it was a
[31:00] Cornwell truck that was parked up on the
[31:02] sidewalk there and the concerns of ADA
[31:04] and access on that sidewalk. Um, my
[31:07] first question is, will there be ample
[31:10] space for your vendors to be able to
[31:11] pull in if they need to be on property?
[31:14] Or if I just look pulling up the a
[31:18] little bit wider map of the area, looks
[31:20] like there might be some space across
[31:21] the street over by Janna's Java that you
[31:24] could have employees just walk to
[31:26] potentially. That way, we're not
[31:28] creating that ADA concern.
[31:30] >> Yeah. Um, but where ADA law is concerned
[31:34] just to
[31:35] >> prevent that from happening again.
[31:37] >> For sure. So, like this is the stuff
[31:38] that you guys aren't wanting, right?
[31:40] Like their vehicles that are parked on
[31:42] the sidewalk.
[31:43] >> I apologize. That's just a little too
[31:44] far for me to see personally.
[31:47] >> Please. [snorts]
[31:48] >> This is their cars currently. They're
[31:52] parked on the sidewalk and on the
[31:54] street.
[31:55] >> Correct. So, that's that's what we're
[31:56] trying to mitigate. That's what that's
[31:58] what we don't want. And so he the the
[32:01] >> show that
[32:01] >> Yes, I'll show. So I've [clears throat]
[32:03] got two pictures here.
[32:06] >> Correct. That that would be
[32:07] >> so that's kind of what I'm saying.
[32:10] >> I agree with that though. And I don't
[32:12] think those cars should be parked right
[32:13] there either. You know,
[32:15] >> that is a safety constant up and down
[32:18] the sidewalk. [snorts]
[32:20] >> And and I would agree with with
[32:22] emphasizing that concern in general as
[32:25] well. um where the gentleman showed the
[32:27] Cornwall truck blocking the sidewalk
[32:29] right in front of the shop and that
[32:31] being more in your control rather than
[32:33] the residential's control. Y
[32:35] >> um that that's why I make that comment
[32:37] and why
[32:38] >> I I try not to bring up a problem
[32:40] without some kind of solution. And I
[32:42] just noticed that we have that big dirt
[32:44] lot just across and I know
[32:46] [clears throat] it might be a little
[32:47] inconvenient to walk across the street
[32:49] but that might also be a better
[32:50] solution.
[32:52] >> Um just as making sure we're all
[32:54] thinking about and making sure that the
[32:56] public questions are are being concerned
[32:58] uh being brought up and validated as
[33:00] well.
[33:00] >> Yes.
[33:02] >> That that concludes my questions.
[33:04] >> And so for your point, the reason he was
[33:06] parked out there, he pulled up for a few
[33:07] minutes and I actually told him he's
[33:08] like I'm just gonna be here for just a
[33:10] second. And I said, "Okay, well, next
[33:11] time you come in, I didn't have the gate
[33:13] unlocked." When we're there and our
[33:15] operation is going, that gate will be
[33:17] unlocked and open for, you know, those
[33:19] bigger trucks, oil trucks or, you know,
[33:21] the Cornwall truck to be able to pull in
[33:23] through the back stage right there, do
[33:25] whatever they need to do and then go.
[33:27] But as to your point, yes, I was also
[33:29] I've already been, you know, in contact
[33:31] of using some of the parking, you know,
[33:33] over there in staging, you know,
[33:35] especially for employees or anything
[33:37] else.
[33:38] >> Actually, I lied. I do have one more
[33:39] question. Are you planning on tearing
[33:41] down anything outside of the building on
[33:43] property as well, or are we going to
[33:45] limit the the tear downs and such to
[33:47] inside the base?
[33:49] >> Oh, yeah. That will all be inside the
[33:50] base. I don't like working outside. I
[33:53] did that for many.
[33:53] >> Most people don't, but I just want to
[33:55] thinking about the concern about noise
[33:57] as well. I mean, I I can imagine what an
[33:59] impact drill is going to sound like
[34:00] outside right next to someone's house.
[34:02] So, that's why I just want to clarify
[34:04] that as well.
[34:04] >> Yeah, of course, there is going to be
[34:06] times to get a vehicle in. you know, the
[34:08] bay. We're going to have to take some
[34:10] tires off or something like that to be
[34:12] able to move it into the bay. So, yes,
[34:14] there will be some times that I do have
[34:16] to take, but as far as like full tear
[34:19] downs, you know, or uh, you know,
[34:21] lengthy hourly jobs, no, I I do
[34:23] everything inside.
[34:26] >> That's all my questions.
[34:27] >> Thank you, Commissioner Liford.
[34:32] » Any other questions from the commission?
[34:37] So, [clears throat] just to be clear,
[34:40] the gate will be open during hours of
[34:42] operation.
[34:43] >> Yes. Okay.
[34:44] >> Yep.
[34:45] >> I think that has to be I mean that's
[34:46] definitely a rule of mine that's going
[34:47] to have to be because I mean that's also
[34:49] a safety thing. You know, if somebody
[34:50] needs to get back there in a hurry, you
[34:52] have to be able to get through that
[34:54] gate.
[34:57] >> So, that might answer the question about
[34:58] the dumpster pickup. They're not going
[35:00] to be able to get in there without the
[35:01] gate open anyway. So, exactly.
[35:02] >> They're going to have to do it during
[35:03] business hours. And I already talked to
[35:04] the waste management. They're good to
[35:06] work with.
[35:07] >> Yeah, they were super cool about it.
[35:08] They said yes, definitely. You know,
[35:10] they can just come in during business
[35:11] hours.
[35:12] >> Perfect. Good.
[35:14] >> I think that's all the questions I had
[35:15] from the public. Any other questions
[35:18] from the commission?
[35:22] » All right.
[35:24] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members,
[35:26] >> Mr. Chairman,
[35:28] >> I if I could offer just a little insight
[35:29] on the
[35:31] >> parking on the sidewalk concerns.
[35:34] >> Dwell city already has ordinances that
[35:37] prohibit vehicles from being parked or
[35:39] obstructing the sidewalk, and those are
[35:41] subject to enforcement by the city's
[35:43] police department. So, if that situation
[35:46] does occur, we encourage the public to
[35:48] contact the city and we will have the
[35:50] police department engage that and remove
[35:52] that vehicle from the public rideway.
[35:55] >> Perfect.
[35:56] That's for everybody's everybody's
[35:58] information in here. So,
[36:00] >> and then I just had a couple things as
[36:03] well.
[36:03] >> Absolutely.
[36:04] >> So, I guess uh my one question is the
[36:07] lights on the building um that are are
[36:10] currently up. Um I've been, you know,
[36:13] there late at night, you know, kind of
[36:15] getting everything ready and trying to
[36:17] do as much as I could before this
[36:18] hearing. Um the lighting doesn't seem
[36:21] to, you know, go out, especially towards
[36:23] the house to the west. Um, no, sorry, to
[36:27] the south. Um, and then the lighting to
[36:30] the west. Um, I just need to know like
[36:32] exactly, you know, what we're wanting.
[36:35] Um, because it doesn't seem to, you
[36:37] know, like be super bright over there
[36:39] and stuff. I don't maybe somebody else
[36:41] might have a different opinion. Um, but
[36:43] I've been out. I don't see anything with
[36:46] the existing lights and how it is going
[36:47] right now. And we do not plan on, you
[36:50] know, upgrading the lights, making them
[36:52] brighter or anything else. we are very
[36:54] limited on the stuff that we, you know,
[36:56] can do. Um, so we were just wondering
[36:59] about the lighting situation and if it's
[37:03] okay the way it's is right now and the
[37:06] way it has been for it looks some time.
[37:08] Um, that was my one question I guess or
[37:13] kind of concern. And then the loud
[37:15] noises. Um, again, yeah, we will be, you
[37:18] know, doing as much work as we can
[37:20] inside, you know, the bays and stuff. Um
[37:22] but it wouldn't it's what we're doing
[37:24] isn't going to be any more or less loud,
[37:26] you know, than the the um car lot, you
[37:31] know, that got approved and or the body
[37:33] shop that's just a couple of buildings
[37:35] down. You know, it's it's all right
[37:37] there within, you know, proximity. It's
[37:39] not going to be any more or less loud
[37:42] than what we were going to be doing in
[37:45] general. So,
[37:47] >> perfect. So, with the lighting, Miss
[37:49] England and Miss Agard, I'll have to
[37:50] help you with that as soon as we're done
[37:52] with this. But we're what we're looking
[37:53] for is just lighting that points down
[37:54] rather than out.
[37:55] >> Okay.
[37:56] >> To keep it out of the residents yards
[37:58] and more focused on your yard.
[37:59] >> Yeah. I wouldn't want that either if
[38:01] that was my house.
[38:01] >> Yep.
[38:02] >> So, you'll have to ask them what is
[38:03] there if that's going to be legit
[38:04] enough. Uh they'll have those answers
[38:06] for you.
[38:07] >> Okay.
[38:07] >> That was also applied to new lighting,
[38:11] additional lighting.
[38:12] >> New lighting. Okay. So, lighting is
[38:13] there now.
[38:14] >> Yeah. You don't need
[38:16] >> Okay. Yep. And we have no plans on doing
[38:18] anything with that.
[38:21] And so, and to be clear, the number of
[38:24] vehicles on site would be 10, but 11 if
[38:27] I can, you know, it'd be my personal
[38:30] vehicle that' be parked in front of that
[38:32] one bay door. So, that would be the 11.
[38:34] >> You're just pretty much creating another
[38:35] parking spot for you. So, I don't think
[38:37] it'd be complaining too much.
[38:39] >> Okay.
[38:40] >> Yep.
[38:45] » Perfect. What I like about our job
[38:47] tonight is just to explain to the public
[38:49] when it comes to a conditional use
[38:50] permit, we have to find uh reasons for
[38:53] safety issues to we can mitigate. If we
[38:54] cannot mitigate it, uh then there's a
[38:56] possibility that we deny it. Um but
[38:58] tonight we we've kind of gone through
[39:00] the list and the city's actually gone
[39:01] through and put that in our packet with
[39:02] us. Uh so the issues you guys are
[39:04] talking about tonight are noise of
[39:05] course, uh lighting, it's been
[39:08] addressed,
[39:10] parking on the street and the sidewalk
[39:12] of course has been addressed. uh
[39:14] customers visiting visiting. That's
[39:16] going to take some time to get customers
[39:17] to understand not to park there, but it
[39:19] sounds like they're going to do their
[39:20] due diligence to get that done. Um
[39:22] business hours and minimize the
[39:25] visibility from the uh wrecked yards in
[39:28] the in the yard there or cars in the
[39:31] yard there. So, is there anything else
[39:32] that the commission can think of
[39:34] findings of fact and things we need to
[39:35] mitigate or find issues for? I
[39:37] >> just need to add in that limit on car
[39:41] limit on cars. Okay.
[39:45] That's not in there right now. Perfect.
[39:49] Any other thoughts, questions, opinions?
[39:56] » Great. I'll entertain a motion on this
[39:58] one.
[39:59] >> I'll make a motion.
[40:00] >> Yes, Commissioner Lynford. [snorts] I
[40:02] move to approve the conditional use
[40:04] permit request by Steve Morose to
[40:06] authorize the use of the automotive
[40:09] service and repair to occur at the
[40:10] subject property [snorts] application
[40:13] number 202623
[40:16] based on the findings and subjects to
[40:18] the conditions listed in the staff
[40:20] report dated April 3rd, 2026 with the
[40:23] additional con uh condition of parking
[40:27] no more than 11 vehicles.
[40:30] I'll second.
[40:32] >> Okay. I have a motion to approve the
[40:34] conditional use permit with the
[40:35] condition to park no more than 11
[40:37] vehicles on the property. Uh from
[40:39] Commissioner Lynford and a second from
[40:42] Commissioner Anderson. Is there any
[40:43] discussion before we take this to a
[40:45] vote?
[40:48] » Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote?
[40:50] >> I.
[40:50] >> Commissioner Lynford,
[40:51] >> I.
[40:52] >> Commissioner Proctor,
[40:53] >> I.
[40:53] >> Commissioner Cordova,
[40:54] >> I.
[40:54] >> Commissioner Jensen,
[40:55] >> I.
[40:56] >> Commissioner Anderson,
[40:57] >> I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I.
[40:59] That one passes 7 to zero. Uh, next on
[41:02] our agenda tonight is a city council
[41:04] reports.
[41:06] I love how they threw you under the bus
[41:08] there, Councilman.
[41:09] >> Oh, no. That's that's totally totally
[41:12] okay. I'm prepared.
[41:13] >> I'm happy to be here.
[41:16] Um Um, as far as the the council, the
[41:18] last time I was here, which seemed like
[41:20] it was the last meeting once for Ed, now
[41:23] for John. I think they're just playing
[41:25] with me. Um, but I mentioned I mentioned
[41:28] an ordinance that was coming up and uh
[41:31] that was a public hearing and a motion
[41:33] uh on ordinance 2026-08
[41:37] an ordinance of the Twilla City Council
[41:39] amending section 7-4-7
[41:42] of the T of the Tilla City Code
[41:44] regarding parking of operable motorized
[41:48] vehicles
[41:50] in the front and side yards of
[41:53] residential properties in a single
[41:55] family residential zoning district. And
[41:59] um I mentioned it to you the last time
[42:02] and if you didn't know, it did pass.
[42:05] Um and that was one that um
[42:09] it is, as I said before, it's an
[42:12] interesting ordinance. Um um because it
[42:15] is,
[42:18] you guys basically touched on a few
[42:19] minutes ago when you was talking about
[42:21] parking on the street and parking in
[42:23] front of people houses. And if you um go
[42:26] around town, and I I asked you to do
[42:28] that when you're riding around, just
[42:30] take a look at some of the yards. And um
[42:33] it's it's kind of sort of shame that a
[42:35] few basically dictate what the rest of
[42:38] us have to do because they're they're homes with 8 n 10 cars parked in
[42:44] the front yard and the neighbors are the
[42:47] ones that are getting beat up for that.
[42:50] You know what I mean? They the the value
[42:52] of their homes are going down. They
[42:54] can't sell it like they want to because
[42:55] of that eyesore. So, I totally
[42:58] understand where you guys are coming
[43:00] from and I hope you guys live up to your promise. But, um, that's all I got
[43:06] big guy. Oh, I'm sorry.
[43:09] Commissioners,
[43:11] [laughter]
[43:12] I'll answer the big guy. That's okay.
[43:16] [laughter]
[43:17] >> Great. Any questions for Councilman
[43:19] McCall from the commission?
[43:22] We appreciate you joining us. Join us
[43:24] anytime.
[43:25] >> I'm sure I'll be back.
[43:27] >> Good. We won't complain. All right.
[43:29] Moves us on to number five on our
[43:31] agenda. This is a review and decision on
[43:32] the March 25th, 2026 planning commission
[43:35] meeting minutes. Are there any
[43:37] corrections or additions that need to be
[43:38] made?
[43:41] >> I'll entertain a motion.
[43:42] >> I move we accept the minutes as
[43:44] prepared.
[43:45] >> Motion to approve from Commissioner
[43:47] Proctor. Do I have a second?
[43:48] >> I'll second. and a comm and second from
[43:50] commissioner Lynford. Any discussion
[43:52] before we vote? Commissioner Hammer, how
[43:55] do you vote?
[43:55] >> I.
[43:56] >> Commissioner Lynford,
[43:56] >> I.
[43:57] >> Commissioner Proctor,
[43:58] >> I.
[43:58] >> Commissioner Cordova,
[43:59] >> I.
[43:59] >> Commissioner Jensen,
[44:00] >> I.
[44:01] >> Commissioner Anderson,
[44:02] >> I.
[44:02] >> Chairman Hamilton also votes I. Those
[44:04] pass seven to zero. Moves us on to
[44:06] number six on our agenda. I'll entertain
[44:09] a motion to adjurnn.
[44:10] >> Please do. No, we are adjourned at 7:38