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» Give me good luck.

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Monday's

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fine.
>> Just as long as it's

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just long.

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should be enough 15 minutes.
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How

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It's over already.

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All right. order

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» September.
>> Stacy, could you please do roll call?

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» Mr. Art,
>> here.

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» Mr. Badger,
>> here. Miss Busher here.

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» Miss Hassler is absent. Mr. Staler
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» Mr. Wel is absent.
>> Mr. White

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» here.
>> And Mr. Miller is absent.

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» Okay. Thank you, Stacy.
All right. Approval of minutes. We do

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not have minutes, so we're going to move
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Communications. Stacy.
>> Uh, without Mr. Klein being here. Uh he

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did email us to ask that we um

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for the first time I believe uh since
the humbling parade now comes over to

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the west side of top 10. He would uh
like to have no parking on the north

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side of Hoy Street from Haw Street to
South Kalapill Street on the night of

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the parade which is October 10th with
the ring date of October 11th.

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» That would be a date.
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the rout's changing.
>> No, but they're not on street. have

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observed over the years that it really
does get tight for emergency vehicles to

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make it through White Street when people
are parking along there to be close to

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the parade.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. So,

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they want to move the north side of
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parking for the night of the parade.
>> So, that would need to be approved by

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council.
>> Yes. Yes. So we can we get a motion to

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uh no parking on the north side of White
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Street on October 10th.

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» All right. Any questions?
All those in favor?

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» Anyone opposed?
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one that trickor treat again this year
will be held on October 31st uh from

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6:00 p. a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and that the
fire company will be holding the trunk

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or treat this year on the same night,
October 31st from 6:00 to 8 on South

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Avenue.
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Thank you, Stacy. Okay,
Mayor Miller is not here, so we will

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move on to uh hearing of any visitors
regarding agenda items.

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Good evening everyone. Uh my name is
Alex Bar from HRG here with

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David from Everroo. I'm here in regards
to the discussion or ongoing discussion

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that we have the two properties located
on home road or currently owned by Don

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and looking to split utilities from the
ever property uh connecting to top of

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Burough's global water and sewer
facilities. Uh we've been working with

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Burrow and the township for quite some
time now. got to a point where there's

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been a drafted a municipal agreement uh
which has been passed over to to Avery

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for their review. Uh we have provided
some comments back to the to the uh

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township uh for review and just felt
like we wanted to maybe discuss if the

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council is okay with that to clarify if
there's any additional information

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that's needed. you still feel like
there's a few items that are outstanding

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in order to get this uh get this to a
point where all parties are willing and

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able to to sign off on this. Uh we did
we did submit a letter to the township

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back in uh on June 19th indicating
essentially the four comments that we

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have um which we received some response
back from the township. I think two of

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which you guys are amendable to which
I'd like to just confirm with and then

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the other two still seems like it's up
in the air and I just want to make sure

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that we're working towards getting the
information that the township needs in

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order to clarify uh you know what needs
to be done to get this agreement

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complete. So
I I'd like to discuss that today if

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possible. Um at least I got an idea what
the next steps are. Uh I think we've got

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some good traction with the draft being
circulated amongst all parties. Um, I

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just wanted to see if we had an
opportunity to to take a few minutes and

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discuss these comments.
>> So, Pam, I I know you've been briefed on

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this. Is this something that we should
discuss here or because it's already

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going back and forth, this is something
we should not discuss here.

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» I think you can handle it either way.
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it's public comment. Council not to
general public conduct. You can take

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things under adisement. Um,

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I think it depends on the council's
appetite.

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» What do you suggest we do?
>> Thanks. So, since there's a

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representative here, if anyone has any
questions for him, obviously I think,

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you know, good opportunity for you to
vet those questions if they're not

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answered in the materials that you
already have.

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» Okay. So, anybody on council, I mean,
how do how do you guys feel about this?

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» Do we want to discuss it here?

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your thoughts on
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here.
>> So, what are the qu what are the You

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said you have a couple questions there.
You wanted to kind of get squared away.

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» Yes. So, the first one happened to be
with the cost allocation. Our

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understanding is that the owner will be
paying for the water and sewer um

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extensions. Um, as part of some of the
language in the agreement, we'd like to

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have in there that if anyone does
connect on those property on those lines

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in the future, we would get a a portion
of of the tapping fees uh through an

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agreement. I think that's pretty
standard of of how we handle them with

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other taxes just to kind of reimburse
and putting in the the infrastructure

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that's needed for this. But if anybody
were to take advantage of that in the

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future, a portion of the tax or some
sort of agreement that there would be a

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bit of reimbursement if anybody were to
connect to that. Our understanding was

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that the town or the burrow was
amendable to that. I just we never

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really got formal clarification. I just
wanted to make sure that we were

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» That is correct. That's correct. Thank
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» Um
we also believe that in there there

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should be a service standard when it
comes to the pressure that's being is

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that will be able to be provided to our
two properties. I believe that the

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response that we got back was that hydro
testing would need to be provided or

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performed in order to get the pressures
of where we're trying to connect. I just

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like to get clarification on whether the
burl will be doing those hydro tests or

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do you need you know the consultants of
the owner to do the hy test. Just trying

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to get some clarification on who's going
to be doing that so we keep this moving

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forward.
>> The design of the year in terms of

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testing that you should
schedule it with you and

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» uh schedule with water department and
that dependent.

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» Sure.
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» Okay. So, we will look to we can we can
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whether who's going to be taking part on
that. If you want to if you want to

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submit your your procedure, we'll take a
little review that you um so of the two

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larger um comments that we have. First
was the the dedication of the water and

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sewer lines. So, um, our proposed our
proposed plan right now is to install an

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individual delta iron water main that
has a connection point at home road um,

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I'm sorry, home road and Heming with
Hemingsville Road uh, to provide a a

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water main going onto our properties
with individual services for our two

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properties. And then similarly, we'll
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that connects to our at that
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both of those properties. Our understand
our request is and I guess we got

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projected as part of the uh letter was
for these this infrastructure to be

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dedicated to the burough. Um we have
been we have water manes and gravity

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sewer mains being installed in a
existing public rightway. Um in my eyes

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I haven't really we haven't really
gotten any explanation as to why the

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burl was hesitant to to take dedication
with this. We will be looking to design

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the semi burough standards. We'll have
all the testing performed obviously pay

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for any construction inspection to be to
ensure that this has been installed

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properly. So we're just trying to get
some clarification as to why the burrow

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is unlimited to take dedication of these
water banks within the public right and

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if there's anything that we can do to
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question.
Once these lines are on their property,

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it becomes their responsibility.
Okay. Just like in in my house,

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» right?
>> Where the once we hit the

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border, once we get the curve box from
there on in, it's my responsibility up

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to the curve box becomes the girl's
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It's that understanding.
Yes. Yeah.

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» The private water services each of the
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and sewer. Yes. After clean, but it's
the mains and the road that we're

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looking to get dedication on. And our
our indication was that the Burke was

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not willing to take dedication on those
utilities

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and also the inspection. Once these
services are being installed, there

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needs to be a proper inspection. apply
the bureau to make sure it's done to the

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burough standards.

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» The the burrow's concern is the chances
of other people connecting is pretty

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slim. So we're being asked the burrow is
being asked to take over what amounts to

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very long
with only one customer to recoup future

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cost.
That's I guess is a sticking issue.

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We're going to we're most likely the
world's going to be stuck with

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maintaining hundreds of feet in it.
>> It's about thousand feet.

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» Yeah. Thousands of feet of
what eventually is essentially is a very

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long.

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So um for one customer
that I mean regardless of the public

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rightway issue, it's still a lot for the
burrow to maintain that much pipe for a

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customer.
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» given it is a large

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unit that will be connected to the flow
coming coming through. So,

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you know, for for Diaon to take
ownership or maintain ownership of this,

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we need to have a licensed operator in
order to take care of this, which which

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they're not equipped to to have right
now. Uh, obviously, right now, their

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water and sewer is going from Everr, uh,
which is only maintained by Everrew.

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They have their own their own operators
to maintain both of those systems. Um,

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however, with the split, they are trying
to part ways with they go their separate

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ways. So, you know, right now it's just
they're not set up to have an operator

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on the hand to maintain that one section
of sewer and that one section. So,

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wanted to see if there was anything and
continue this conversation. Thank you

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for for the explanation on the
particular property owner, be it a large

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property owner discharging on the top
end. Um to see if there is anything that

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we can do or anything any further
discussion that we can do to move this

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along is is a bit of a sticking point on
on Don side that would really prevent

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them from doing this. Right.
No, the house

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right

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» two highrises on home road that are
right on the road on opposite sides of

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the
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» so you're d you're thinking the old
school building the old thinking you

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around home and it's
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» both home and the tenants sit outside on
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it's called
>> Oh, how much fun was that?

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» So, we're talking about how the windows.
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» So,
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see if we can open conversation about
that again. We're not

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just that further conversation.
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on that as well. So I can see your
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the go for for water and sewer as it
relates to sewer ting fees and water

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volume allocations. So I'll start with
the with the sewer ting fees. So we

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believe that well let me let me back up
with the flow coming from these two

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properties going through the ever true
property ever does connect their sewer

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toward to the burrows sew sanitary sewer
system so the sewer flows that are

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coming from these two properties are
already contributing to the bur sanitary

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sewer system we just looking to to
connect it in a different location to

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separate from
we wanted to confirm that there wouldn't

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be any additional tapping fees as it
relates to the sewer because we were

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already connected to the burrow sewer.
We're just changing the location of of

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which so my understanding was that there
was going to be need to be some further

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investigation or more information to
justify that. Uh I'm not sure off the

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top of my head when those connections
were made back in the day, but they were

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connected through ever true and our
thoughts are that we shouldn't have to

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pay tax fees for sewer that was already
connected.

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any additional information that you
could ask of us to provide. We will look

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to to try and dig up and just try to see
what would be needed from your I guess

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the issue is technically the original
owner will maintain ownership of that

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capacity
because they purchased it. Okay. So even

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so you've subdivided different ownership
unless this is where it gets legally

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confusing for me. I don't know what
happens to the other parties unloed

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EDUs.
Do they revert back to the burrow and

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then you have to purchase them? I don't
think you can purchase them directly

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from the other entity because they're
it's our plan capacity.

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So that that's the that's the that's the
rub here because technically the

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capacity we sold is owned by another
entity and as far as I know they haven't

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surrendered it if they have plans of
future expansions they have full rights

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to those you use they purchase
even though you're part of their flow

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now you you separated so I don't know
where that puts us

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» that would probably be an else question

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» just looking for guidance on how a girl
would like to handle this and I

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understand I understand why you can't
sell their stuff. So I understand that

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they're to surrender their ed
but then you're still buying them from

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us. So how that works
like I said they they bought all

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capacity therefore they're entitled to
that capacity would there be any

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money

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what's the advantage of that
financial benefit

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just trying we want to make that we
the flow has already been excuse me

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connected. So again we feel like a case
should be handheld there. So

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excuse me. So the other aspect here is
the water application volume for each of

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the units. So we have uh I understand
that the burrows EDU is 250 gallons a

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day. Um we ever true and Don do own
other properties of similar capacity uh

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in which we have provided water water
bills from the American water for 2

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years uh that justify about 60 gallon
I'm sorry 60 gallons a day green usage

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for for 2 years on a very similar site.
Um so our request is to requ is to

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request a 60 gallon a day per unit uh
water allocation as opposed to the 250

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gallon a day. Um the response that we
received from the township was that we

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felt like we need to cover the averages
of the PA water bill um which we're open

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for discussion. Uh we just gave you the
average across 365 days of usage. So

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if there's another way of looking at
those water bills to justify this

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reduction in water usage, we're open for
discussion there as well.

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» And how many units are we talking?
>> Uh 52 and 53.

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» Okay.
All right. I think we have uh these

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three uh points written down here. This
is something we're discussing.

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» Correct.
>> Correct.

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» Yes, definitely.

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» So, thank you for your time. Of course.
I just want to clarify is this something

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that will be up for discussion at next
month's meeting? Is this something that

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we hope to schedule meeting between now
and next month? I just want to get

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clarity on what the expectations are and
I'm not putting a rush shot. I just want

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to know are we waiting till the next
month to have this this bill this

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discussion.
>> I would say probably yes. I mean, you

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know, as you can see, we've got two uh
council members out tonight and you

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know, we'd much rather have everybody's
input in this.

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» So, we will pass the notes on and uh
hopefully we'll have a discussion.

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» And if the EDU research involves any in
any way PA D that'll be consuming and we

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can't judge that.
>> Yeah. Okay.

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» I apologize for that. But if it requires
them to sign off on something

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» about our capacity.
>> Sure.

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» That'll be a delay. Sorry.
>> Okay. Okay.

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» Great. Well, I appreciate your time.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.
>> Did anybody have any questions for Ever?

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He was talking quite a bit. I'm Dave
from Everly.

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We're trying to separate out so we can
we don't have to come to service

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you in whatever decisions and whatever
direction you need. So please feel free

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to contact us and we'll give you
whatever information we can.

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» Perfect.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.
Since these two connections are involved

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in
they need to be aware of aware of this

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interunal agreement
too

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as well.

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» Okay.
>> Great. Thank you. Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Okay. Any other hearing visitors
regarding agenda items?

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» All right. Moving on.

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» Looks like you're up here. So,
it's my understanding that you have been

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given a revision for ordinance 6-202
for studio requirements and restrictions

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um to be considered via adoption of a
resolution if you're so inclined. Um my

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understand is updating the fees
associated with these permits in

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consultations with the engineer
to bring them into the modern range.

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» Yeah, that's why we discussed this last
time. All right, so it looks like we

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need a um motion to adopt resolution
1926, which is amending our uh fees and

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permit schedule.

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Everybody have their copy of this?
>> Y.

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» Okay, good. Okay.

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» All right. Anybody have any questions?
All those in favor?

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» Anyone opposed?

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» And the second matter from our section
is a request from Mr.

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to
for you to authorize him to review

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a number of your nuisance ordinances. Um
I believe there was a prior discussion

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regarding barking dogs. um that brought
to light the fact that a member of your

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ordinance has still placed the
enforcement power or obligation with the

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chief of police which you no longer
have. So he was asking for permission to

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go through those ordinances, find those
sorts of references and make

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recommendations for updates.

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» Right. Yeah. I think I think it'd be a
great idea, too. Do we need to make a

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motion on that?
>> Okay.

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All right. One more. So, so he's he's
just

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» well and make recommendations.
>> Yeah. Yes.

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» I see that
>> it goes back quite a way.

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» Yes, it does. I was I was the secretary
at that time.

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» Yeah.
>> I saw that.

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» All right. Anybody have any questions
about that? All those in favor? I.

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» Anyone opposed? Very
good. Okay.

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Thank you, ma'am.
Stacy,

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manager report.
>> So, during the past month, uh we

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continue to work with our new software
company, G Works. It's going very slowly

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and it's been tough. Um we began working
with um a new vendor that we f were

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familiar with as a sign vendor who's now
taken on um GIS databases

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on an hourly rate. So we wanted to see
what kind of work he would uh produce.

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So, public works water and sewer would
like to start using that vendor and we

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started using him as a test for the
signs and mapping all of the signs in

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the burrow.
So, hopefully that'll go well and

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continue in the future because that's a
big need in the future. Uh, we obtained

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a newer, not new, but newer bucket truck
um through Muna bid. So, we did win that

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bid and it's in our possession
and it's already been used and works

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well. We're working with the solicitor
on a bunch of ordinances including

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nuisance ordinances and our abandoned
vehicles

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will also be included.

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Community organizations were sent an
email to submit uh requests for funding

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for support for the 2027 fiscal new
year. Uh they were due yesterday, so we

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did receive answers from most
organizations in the community.

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We've been issuing quality of life
violations

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and responding to them with the help of
council members as well.

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following up and gathering information
for our staff. Revisions were made to

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the employee handbook. Uh the 2027
budget was presented to the finance

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chair, Miss Hassler, and we are
continuing to work with her to formulate

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a draft for all the council
and we are due to submit the MS4 annual

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report at the end of September. So, I'll
be working with Mr. White on finalizing

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that report.

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Then the other items under um my section
of the agenda, the PA auditor general

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regularly comes on site to audit um
liquid fuels, but this one is for our

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pension. Uh so uh a representative from
that office will be here this week and

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electronically we've been submitting
most of the information. So hopefully

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it'll be very quick on-site
meeting. The 2027

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MMO will meet minimum municipal
obligation for the bureau uh was

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presented to council and it would need
to be approved by council this evening

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in order to meet the the deadline to let
our administrator know how much we are

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obligated to contribute next year.
That's between 3:00.

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» Correct.
>> Yes, sir.

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» Okay.
Does everybody have the worksheet?

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» Any questions? Because this is new to
this council, most members of council.

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Are you looking for a motion?
>> Yes.

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» Just want to make sure that everybody
>> I

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» I'll second that.

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Anybody have any questions about this?

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All right. All those in favor?
>> Anyone opposed? All right. Stacey.

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» And then the last item is that the
pickup is going to start October 12th.

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If there are any moves at that point, we
will start after that. But just to let

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the community know all the candy from
the

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» Thank you. All right. Thank you, Stacey.
>> All right. Committee reports and

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environment committee. Mr. White,

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» very good. Thank you. Personnel, Mr.
Staer,

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» I think everybody
has this in their mail box.

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I would like you please to review it
next meeting. I would really like to

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take action on it at the next meeting.
However, uh Stacy pointed out a couple

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items that need to be we need to get
back to review

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a couple items in there. They're just
maybe 6% of the majority of them is

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ready to go. So, I appreciate if you
review it. Uh

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in the meantime,
Kathy and Sab and I are going to get

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together to check those items that need
to be addressed. For example, on the one

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page is talking about a safety
committee. We don't even have a safety

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committee. All right. So, we're going to
go back hopefully next week we can meet

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and I'll have those corrections uh
sent to Stacy and then she can update

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them her page. And then you please She
she'll send you an email when they're

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ready so that if you're viewing this
plus the revisions, we should be ready

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for next meeting. So hopefully we can
take action on on that and get that in

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place. Perfect. Okay. Does anybody have
any questions?

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» No. But thank you guys for doing this
because this is not an easy job to do.

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So
just one thing. Uh this is the handbook.

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Should the
contract

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with the union employees be part of
this?

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» No.
>> No.

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» Okay, never mind.
>> There you go.

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» They they they are interpreted
in conjunction with each other, but they

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are two separate documents.
>> Okay. Okay then. No problem. Then it

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should be hopefully agenda for next
month.

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» Thank you. That's it.
>> Perfect. Thanks, K. All right. Streets

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committee. Uh, Mr. Wetszel is not here.
Do we need approval to proceed with the

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» Yes. So, um, each council member should
have a copy of Mr.

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opinion on the topic of
moving forward with the cooperative

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municipalities to look into and
hopefully purchase a used roller that

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cooperatively could be used in the
future by the four municipalities. Um,

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one of the major items that Mr. Wetel
explained was renting it. The ease of

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renting every time um the season comes
to pave. It must be rented from a vendor

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and what happens is they rent it at the
beginning of when we plan to pave. They

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hang on to it and they have to house it
for all those months. Otherwise, if they

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return it to the vendor,
>> it could be rented out to somebody else

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and then we don't get a roller,
>> right,

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» for all the paving projects we have in
the four municipalities.

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And the cost per month is um under
$5,000.

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So, this would probably pay for itself
within

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» I mean, this is just the same way we did
the other one.

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» Other pieces of equipment.
>> I mean, it makes sense.

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» Yeah. and the mileage is very or the
hours on it is very good.

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» So that was his opinion and that was his
explanation.

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So Mr. Wetzel did say he would support
the purchase. We're approving to go

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through the process.
>> Yeah. So

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» because it would come back to council
again for the final purchase with the

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dollar amount etc.
>> All right. So we just need a motion to

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move forward with the process of
purchasing. This 55 is that split

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between the
>> four municipalities. Correct.

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» So we need a motion to move forward with
the process. We're purchasing not

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purchasing the process of it. So
anybody have any questions? All those in

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favor?
>> I. Anyone opposed? All right.

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» And with Mr. Wetzel's absence, I'll
report that M. Long swamp is the last

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one to be um the cooperative
municipality who's been experiencing

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paving the last couple of weeks they
built. Now they're paving. It's a very

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long street. So expect our staff to be
involved with paving for at least two

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weeks.
>> Sure.

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And then with Northolk Southern, we had
a report and photographs from a resident

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that the storm water was being retained
and it shouldn't be. So it was reported

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to Norfolk Southern and they quickly did
a PA1 call, came on site and rectified

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the situation.

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» Downtown. Okay.

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» I have no idea.
>> If you get the report, you can pass it

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along to me and I'll pass it along to
our folks.

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» Thank you.

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» Yeah. You know
>> floors that in front of Jackson.

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» Yeah.

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» Yeah. They're getting older.
>> We're grateful that they

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» probably address the storm water issue.
>> Next time next time they're going to

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tear all these rails down. I'm sure
they're going to do it again soon. When

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they do the re
have them all

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when you go across to Jackson.
>> I mean they just leave that sweet.

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It's really about 10 by 10.
>> Yeah. Cuz there is a lot of people that

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walk there. A lot of people
>> next time they want to go replace those

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rails say no.
>> Yeah.

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» They allow you to do it unless you do
that.

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I don't think we're even allowed to say
no.

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» You can still try.
>> And they do outsource a lot of the

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actual paving work there. Staff are on
site, but

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» it's easier when you're walking down to
go across.

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» Yeah.
>> That area small area in there.

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» Sure. Sure.
>> I mean to the pro. Well, a lot of people

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I mean you park all over the place to go
to any of those businesses down there.

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People are walking around down there a
lot. Yeah, definitely. So, definitely.

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Okay.
Thank you, Stacy. All right. So, finance

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committee, um, Miss Hassler is not here,
so we all have the list of bills to be

432
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,960
paid and the little note on the front of
this that we're currently migrating.

433
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:22,680
So, some things will be corrected and
added here.

434
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:33,359
So what you see is a list of checks
and then transactions.

435
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:38,720
So the checks are still being processed
through our current software and the new

436
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:42,240
software are the other reports that are
attached.

437
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:49,520
» Yeah.
>> So the check register report is the new

438
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:54,160
couple. Okay. Okay.
It's payroll primarily because we

439
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:58,480
haven't done accounts payable and
receable in totally in the new

440
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,599
» on the new software. Okay.
>> And then the transfers are still on the

441
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,480
old software as well.
>> Okay. All right. Can I

442
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,560
» Yes, sir.
>> Then I need a motion to uh pay the bills

443
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:17,920
» and I'll second that.
>> Any questions?

444
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,920
All those in favor? Anyone
>> opposed?

445
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:40,160
» Um, sewer is getting stronger now that
rates have been adjusted and debt will

446
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:46,000
decrease over the next couple of years.
So, watch that.

447
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:50,880
I mean, we're not
>> line items if it's over budget and we'll

448
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:54,800
see budget revision
>> soon,

449
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:58,320
» but nothing terrible.
>> Thanks.

450
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:03,040
» Sure.
>> Correct. Okay. Does everybody have the

451
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:06,200
budget revision looks like this? We have
this here.

452
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,280
» Sure.

453
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,960
I know the lights were flickering
too.

454
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:26,079
» So,
>> we just paid the bills. I mean, come on.

455
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:32,480
» So, due to the fact that we are not
proceeding with a few projects in the

456
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:38,000
burough this year, that's where the
money is being moved from. One of which

457
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:44,560
is police. So we brought that down to
zeros for the services and the um

458
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:48,560
services for investigation. So those are
the first two lines that are brought

459
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:54,480
down to zero. And then the perennial
stream since we don't need a match this

460
00:40:50,880 --> 00:41:01,319
year for a grant that we don't have we
uh reduced that line item down to you

461
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,319
know $2,500

462
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,480
that we will need to put in the budget
for next year. Just put that as a note

463
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:15,520
in the back of your mind. So those items
were reduced to pay for the bucket

464
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:20,720
truck. The bucket truck came in with a
price tag of 15,000 plus a fee for

465
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,480
municip.
That's a certain percent. So that's

466
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:30,960
16,350
total for the newer bucket truck. And

467
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:36,319
then the pool demo, as you recall, it
was budgeted at $20,000

468
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:43,040
because it was expected that inhouse
staff would perform the work. Once

469
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:49,599
council decided to bid that work and
have it done by a contractor, the budget

470
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:56,800
line item had to be increased. and we
increased it to 115 to hopefully cover

471
00:41:53,200 --> 00:42:04,000
all of the engineering fees that will
will be built, you know, in the future.

472
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:07,520
To date, it's a little less than 115 for
the total project.

473
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,240
» I hate not seeing a pool there, but the
grass looks great. They did a good job.

474
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,720
So,
all right. So, then we need to approve

475
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,880
this.
So, I need a motion to approve these uh

476
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:26,359
budget revisions and uh for the pool
deation demolition and the purchase of

477
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,359
the used bucket truck.

478
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:36,240
» Any questions?
>> That's coming up on the agenda.

479
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:41,200
» Look at that.
>> All those in favor?

480
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:44,800
» Anyone opposed?
>> Thank you.

481
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:49,839
» Very good. Thank you.
So, community relations, uh, that is me.

482
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,200
So, the community report, uh, the, uh,
um, music in the park went very well

483
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:58,160
this summer, I think. I think people
were very happy with it. This last one

484
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:03,359
certainly drew a crowd. Um, thankful to,
uh, Redeemer Church for doing uh, the

485
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:08,079
food there, which was great. Um, and
also Stephanie in the office took care

486
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:12,960
of some of the logistics for that last
one, which was great. and uh she did

487
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:18,079
want me to read some uh of the uh notes
on the uh Topton on Wheels Touch a Truck

488
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,760
event coming up. That is September 12th
from 12:00 to 4:00. That'll be on South

489
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:26,960
Kalah Hill Street between Weiss and Oak
Alley. There are 14 trucks registered,

490
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,079
eight vendors, and including a possible
medevac landing if their schedule

491
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,319
allows, which I think is always
exciting. Everyone loves that, you know.

492
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:38,800
Um, the event will also host a scavenger
hunt for participants to find a few

493
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:42,319
truck features and the bottom that form
will act as an entry for a raffle prize.

494
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:48,000
So far, there are two people committed
to a basket. Um, please include whom to

495
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:51,599
pay for the raffle basket, I guess. Do
we have those? I don't know. Uh, still

496
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,599
looking for raffle baskets or prizes
like gift cards, trucks, our vendors

497
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,319
until Thursday the 10th. So, if anyone
knows anyone that would like to do that,

498
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:01,760
that would be great. But I think
Stephanie worked pretty hard on this, so

499
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:06,720
that was great.
Um that is really all I have uh for

500
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:16,400
community relations. So next we have
properties and events and that is uh Mr.

501
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:24,720
We need a motion to authorize to advi uh
advertise for a bid for the 1994

502
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,720
Ford Superduty with just about the
truck.

503
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:44,560
All right.
>> Any questions? All those in favor? I.

504
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:44,560
» Anyone oppose?

505
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:54,720
And just with
since it's time to talk about the

506
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:59,839
budget, there are
some of the burrow on the sidewalks need

507
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:04,000
attention on Cal Hill Street. There are
seven sections

508
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:09,040
plus we should maybe look at the ramps
while we're doing the work.

509
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:16,200
» Um
I don't know if we want to do that in

510
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,200
or houser

511
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:26,880
as per also on
memorial there's seven to nine sections

512
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:33,160
to replace and possibly three down
closer to the bank and a ramp at

513
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,160
memorial

514
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:43,440
sections are like 48 by See?
>> Okay.

515
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:47,440
» Yeah, it's definitely something we
should look at because there's a lot of

516
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:52,160
places that need attention.
>> I don't understand.

517
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:57,520
There was two sections replaced, then a
good section and then a bad section. Why

518
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,720
didn't they do that?
>> Yeah.

519
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:07,079
» Section when they had this
>> for the same reason Norfolk doesn't go

520
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:07,079
all the way over when they do there.

521
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,960
Oh, that's right. That was the whole
town.

522
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:17,119
» The old basketball court. I'm just going
to put it out there.

523
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,359
» Everybody can look at it and maybe come
up with an idea of what we can do there.

524
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:25,680
» We had talked about many years ago
making it parking for the bowl field

525
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:32,240
that's there.
>> Well, the bowl field, the tea ball,

526
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:37,480
remember was bottom of the
>> correct ball court. They were going to

527
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,480
use that as

528
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:45,200
What happened? The T-ball field moved
together. They moved it back. The

529
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:53,040
people that were going to put a whiffle
ball field in there when T-ball field

530
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:59,119
moved that fell through. So now it just
But people on Smith Street

531
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:04,400
don't have a parking lot when it snows
because the church don't want them to

532
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,040
use the
>> But if you make it parking. I I don't

533
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:13,520
want it to become
an abandoned corn lot,

534
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:17,280
» you know. Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you're going to use it for

535
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:23,200
parking, you almost have to do like a a
fence that would separate that from

536
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:26,960
what's the first house? 19 East West
Street, I think, is the number. I'm not

537
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:32,560
sure.
>> There's got to be a dividing line there.

538
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:39,200
I would think.
>> I mean, I know they talked about a skate

539
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:42,240
park there, but that came back with a
figure.

540
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,599
» Yeah.
>> But I don't see why we would have to

541
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,640
spend that kind of money,
>> right?

542
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:54,000
» Cuz we have we could mill it off and we
could put a new coat on. We have the

543
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,520
equipment,
>> you know.

544
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,800
» Yeah.
>> More like more like a hockey roller

545
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:05,319
hockey.
>> Yeah. put a fence around its

546
00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:05,319
for

547
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:10,240
» Yeah.
>> Just

548
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:16,960
» something to think about.
>> Yes. if we can do it next year or you

549
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:24,319
know just thinking some plans
and like Stacy mentioned

550
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:29,200
abandoning Carly's partly street
is moved

551
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:34,400
and
talking with Taylor about the colonial

552
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:38,480
life issue and there's baby steps being
taken there.

553
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:41,760
» Okay. Okay.
Well, that's what they hear. All

554
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:50,440
right.
Utilities and events committee. Mrs.

555
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,440
Busher.

556
00:48:52,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Um,
we need to get approval for executing

557
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:07,640
for a 2027
F3504

558
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,640
SD Super.

559
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,800
Yeah, I think.

560
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:33,920
» So, the truck itself is the 48170
and the fitting outfitting of it is

561
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:40,280
32139.
>> So, add those two together and that's

562
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,280
the total amount for the scale.

563
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:48,280
» Did you add it?
>> It is

564
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,280
» $80,39.

565
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:58,880
That's $9 over what I want.
>> We approximated it.

566
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,680
» Okay. Okay.
>> We fully did.

567
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,119
» Yeah.
>> All right. So, we're just looking for

568
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:09,440
approval to execute the quotes to order
the truck right now.

569
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:12,800
» So, we need a motion for that.
>> I'm sure a motion.

570
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:16,240
» A motion just to um execute the quotes
to order the truck.

571
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:22,160
» Oh, that's
motion. Okay. Well, second. Anyone have

572
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:31,160
any questions?
All those in favor? I. Anyone opposed?

573
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,160
All right. Execute those.

574
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,480
A lot of people.

575
00:50:52,640 --> 00:51:01,480
» So,
you had your you have nothing in front

576
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,480
of you.

577
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,880
» Um

578
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:19,839
sir, it looks like we need to discuss
um the joint meeting with Swan Township

579
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:26,520
to discuss alternative drinking uh for
water well and respond to possible

580
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,520
dates.

581
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:32,280
» Did they give us any dates that they're
looking for?

582
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:47,280
» No, they like a few dates. Um Mr. would
take them to the other supervisors and

583
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,720
their solicitors.
>> And are they looking for it for this

584
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:55,760
month? Are they looking
>> as soon as possible? I'm sure because

585
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:59,119
the year is going to get away with all
of us with budgets.

586
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:06,599
» And obviously the well issue is
something we need to you know

587
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:06,599
» get a move on. So

588
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,440
» six years, right?
>> Yeah.

589
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:19,440
Definitely.
>> So, um,

590
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,200
what is everybody?
>> I was going to say who needs to attend.

591
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:28,000
Do all of us need to attend?
>> It will be a public meeting. It will be

592
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,440
advertised. It will be advertised as a
joint.

593
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:35,040
» Where are we having?
>> We'll probably have to

594
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:38,079
um get a larger venue like we've done in
the past. Either the middle school, high

595
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,960
school.
>> Okay.

596
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,040
and how long does that take to
coordinate?

597
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:46,720
» I mean, we're going to have to figure
out what they have available and then

598
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,280
we're going to have to see if we're
available.

599
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,200
» So, maybe that's what we should do first
is see what venue is available. We can't

600
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:56,079
just say we're going to meet on the 23rd
at the middle school without asking the

601
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,520
middle school if it's available.
>> Okay.

602
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,480
» So, why don't we see what they have
available first and then put it out

603
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,640
there and see what we can
>> in general. Are there certain days of

604
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:10,240
the week that or days of the month that
are not for members of council?

605
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:18,079
» Well,
this month I won't be here the 15th and

606
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:21,520
17th or the 24th to the 27th.
>> Okay.

607
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:25,040
» Which 26th and 27th, Saturday and
Sundays.

608
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,680
» Okay. Anyone else you want to go around
the table?

609
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,040
» Anything else?
I'm pretty flexible.

610
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:34,640
» Yeah, you tell me and I'll make it work.
>> Okay.

611
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,440
» Okay.
>> No problem.

612
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:41,520
» Okay, that's it. I'll do that.
>> Yeah, we should

613
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,839
» I'll check with the middle school.
>> Yeah. And then we'll see what we can do.

614
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,359
Okay.
>> Okay.

615
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:48,760
» Perfect. Thank you.
>> I'll let Mr.

616
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:14,400
And then the last thing um we're looking
for is um discussion and um regarding

617
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:21,599
the history book. Um
you guys were provided a list of

618
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:26,960
votes um and
the committee which was just Uh Colleen

619
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:33,319
and I have decided to go choose with
Algra um with the purchase of being

620
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:33,319
$3,560.38.

621
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:44,960
Um and we're looking to
sell them roughly $20 for a little bit

622
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:51,280
of a profit. Um we do already have some
donation Washington donation

623
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:56,160
sponsorships and um that have come in.
We're a little under 600 others that

624
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,920
came in and plus we're getting more with
the sale of the ordinance to also cover

625
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:04,319
some of that. Mhm.
>> Um

626
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:09,599
we were also
um

627
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:13,520
just
Yeah. So that that was the discussion

628
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:19,359
that we had. Um and then there was
something about somebody was it one of

629
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:23,599
the schools doing it.
Ben, you were saying about designing

630
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:29,839
graphic design. Was that for the
>> Yes. So we do um Ben, I don't know if

631
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:38,559
you know Ben. He graduated last year.
He's a self at college. He is assisting

632
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:45,440
with some of the writing, but his
girlfriend does graphic design. So,

633
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:50,000
they're both as volunteers
um working on getting things together

634
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:53,760
for us,
>> which is kind of nice. So she'll as soon

635
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,839
as we get the printer, she'll be in
touch with the printer to see what

636
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,880
formats they need and all that kind of
>> and they're volunteering at the time.

637
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,319
Correct.
>> Okay.

638
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:10,319
» We're going to work out whether the
school will get college credit from what

639
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:14,319
they're doing. So yeah, they're willing
to speak to their resumes.

640
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:23,040
» Okay.
>> Um those the people that have um

641
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:29,119
sponsor the book. We're looking to give
them at least one free copy to everybody

642
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:34,480
that has donated or whatever.
>> So that's where we're at.

643
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:37,480
» And the people who sponsored the
>> Yeah.

644
00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:50,160
» We don't have you don't have them with
you. The samples that they gave us.

645
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:54,960
» No. Okay.
They gave us two different types of

646
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:58,400
sampling and one
way it was kind of like a landscape

647
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:02,559
form.
>> Oh, nice.

648
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:05,440
» Okay.
Anything else?

649
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:09,520
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Can Can we Can we communicate with them

650
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:14,480
then?
>> Can we communicate?

651
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,920
» I'd like to let the other printers know
that we're not going to go with them.

652
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,000
» Are we going?
>> I think so. because we already decided

653
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:27,200
that last time. Yeah. Yeah, we're okay
with that.

654
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:31,839
» Okay, that was decided last time. Y.
>> Okay.

655
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:38,240
» Then I will place a resolution on the
October agenda for passage

656
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:41,040
for us to say be able to as borrow to
sell these.

657
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:45,119
» Perfect.
>> Engineers reported.

658
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:49,839
» All right.
any further discussions that you want to

659
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:55,280
have about the Luther Meadows at
Helman's house with me?

660
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:59,040
» I don't think we need to. I think we
have questions that they're interested

661
00:57:56,799 --> 00:58:06,799
in having an answer to and once we get
that we'll move forward with that.

662
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:10,799
» So, we're continuing to push D to
improve this planning model for

663
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:14,960
Washington Station.
They finally got back to us and asked

664
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:19,760
for uh fees. I don't know why they
waited so long. So, we paid those and we

665
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,760
also provided them some additional
information that they requested. It's

666
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:30,640
getting a little frustrating with them,
but what can you do on the chlorine

667
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:35,119
contact chamber? I'm still trying to get
an estimate from the vendor on the

668
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:41,359
amount of material that needs to be
purchased to compare that. As soon as I

669
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:48,079
have that, I'll for that council. He was
away on vacation. He did promise to me

670
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:52,880
promise to me have today have it. So,
I'm a little frustrated with that at

671
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:58,960
this point.
Moving on to the water well.

672
00:58:55,839 --> 00:59:05,359
We are working on the next phase of
that. Once again, if you need any

673
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:11,920
assistance with any other things for
that well, please let us know. Fiber

674
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:17,520
optic extension. Um, I believe we might
be on another project down here now from

675
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:22,480
them. So, batons passed again and it
seems like every time they pass a baton,

676
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:28,240
the people take over, start it over from
scratch. So, um, we still continue to

677
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:32,240
remind them that, hey, we're not happy
with you. Just

678
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:37,200
that's running through everyone's
backyards. We need this to be documented

679
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:43,280
because you know they're not going to
bother you. They're going to come here

680
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:49,520
to public meetings and say why our
backyard you know just happened even

681
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:56,799
though we have nothing to do
with. So we're asking them to do their

682
00:59:52,240 --> 01:00:03,839
due diligence and that seems to be where
they pass to another

683
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:09,040
and we started the whole process.
So moving on talked to UTI they're still

684
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:15,520
working with their issues to try to
resolve ours

685
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:20,079
reached out to us on Friday last week.
Unfortunately reached out to Josh. Josh

686
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:25,200
just returned from vacation. So he got
the message and he got

687
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:32,319
to
looks like

688
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:35,319
I will update you next month hopefully
solution

689
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:46,799
report which I saw today. So we'll get
on that. Um I wanted to talk to you

690
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:52,160
about preparing I was asked to prepare
sort of price estimates for water and

691
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:58,160
for tapping fee updates. Um, are you
looking for just a budgetary

692
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:03,520
cost to do those? Cuz we usually don't
write proposals and we usually do them

693
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:08,720
under general services, but if you want
to just have a cost,

694
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:16,319
» that would be very helpful.
>> Okay. All right. So, I'll do that.

695
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:21,040
I'll get that to you very soon. And like
I said, we're working on the well

696
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:25,960
contract. We're also working on getting
some of this grant issues resolved DC.

697
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,520
» Perfect. That's it.
>> All right. Thank you.

698
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:46,240
» Thank you.
>> All right. Old business, hometown

699
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:50,880
heroes. Is there anything that we need
to discuss there? We've had a couple

700
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:56,160
people interested not um submitting
applications. So, we're getting closer

701
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,440
hopefully to five
for our next order.

702
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:05,480
» Perfect.
Top 10 community ambulance board. Monica

703
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:17,680
and Stacy that on us so we got that.
Okay, good. Thank you. Perfect.

704
01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:19,680
Tottenboro Preservation Board.
>> Nothing new.

705
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:24,839
» Nothing new. Same old.
>> Okay.

706
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:24,839
» It'll be open Saturday any

707
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:31,760
» Oh, nice. Okay. Good.
>> Same hours.

708
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:35,920
» Perfect. Brandy Community Library.
Right. Ray,

709
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:41,599
» we had a great summer.
>> You did.

710
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:50,480
» Great call. Um, just let you know that
fundraising continues and We have douts

711
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:55,920
at um
villas

712
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,400
and Buckeye Tavern happening. So, you
know, you have to eat. Just pick that

713
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,440
thing.
>> That's always a good fundraiser. You

714
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:07,920
have to eat. You know,
>> those go really well. Um the big sales

715
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:12,559
going, which amazingly are going really
well. There's always bigs at the desk

716
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:18,480
now.
Um, and I'll just put a little bug in

717
01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:21,480
your ear, but sent their chat to us this
week.

718
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:32,240
disability that
>> well have you heard just

719
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:37,520
kind of swamped with the software and
trying to get the bills out and all that

720
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:41,079
but
still looking for

721
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:52,799
» the vendor fair
is

722
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:55,520
» okay they're going to have a Saturday.
>> Perfect.

723
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,039
» And it'll be at trunk and tree.
>> Perfect.

724
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,559
» So
>> nice. Good.

725
01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:04,079
» Can I check on something?
>> Yeah.

726
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:10,240
» The whole time here is is that just for
the military or can we expand that to

727
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:16,640
like firefighters or
>> that would be active counsel?

728
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:21,760
cuz I'm wondering if that might if we
add to making clothes that maybe that'll

729
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,760
add to
interest

730
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:36,720
probably since we didn't have any
new ones to go up. We didn't really

731
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:40,400
enforce the the two year,
>> right?

732
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:45,359
» But there's plenty of patterns that have
been up two or more years.

733
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:48,720
» Sure. Yeah. Huh? Do you want it on the
next agenda to discuss it?

734
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,760
» It might be a good idea.
>> Okay. Something to think about.

735
01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:57,480
» Sure.
>> And if we get interested,

736
01:04:53,839 --> 01:04:57,480
» we don't. Yeah.

737
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:05,400
» Yeah. Absolutely.
>> And then council would have to then

738
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,400
decide

739
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:13,599
» all of the ones that have been up two
years or more come down.

740
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:17,520
So
>> ours is going to go oldest.

741
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:22,319
» Yeah.
>> Like if you only need five, take the

742
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:28,400
five oldest. But then you run into the
problem that people might hurry up.

743
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:35,440
» Yeah. Correct.
>> I can tell you my dad's coming down.

744
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:39,200
» Yeah. So you'll Yeah, absolutely.
>> Okay. All right.

745
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,559
» Sorry.
>> Okay.

746
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:46,559
No, it's cancelled.
>> So, two things that I forgot to mention

747
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:50,880
when I was doing my uh little thing. Uh
East Penn manufacturing sent us. They

748
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:56,000
are having an 80th anniversary open
house on Saturday, October 3rd. Um they

749
01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:00,960
are having a VIP tour for public
officials at 10:30 a.m. Uh followed by a

750
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:06,640
special anniversary program at 12:15
a.m. We have all been invited. So, if we

751
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:10,880
would like to go, we have to uh email
the uh government relations and advocacy

752
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:15,680
manager. I have all the information
here. So, if you'd like to see it, you

753
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:19,280
can take a look at it and the schedule
and all this fun stuff here. Um I think

754
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:24,480
that's very nice.
>> We got

755
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:27,839
Okay. Did everybody get the St. Barnabas
Center thing also?

756
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,280
» She's shaking her head. Yes.
>> I think that was the

757
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:32,319
one.
>> Yep.

758
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:36,960
» Thing.
>> Yep. Perfect. So before we uh have any

759
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:41,119
other visitors, if there are any and in
Germany, I I have two things to just

760
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:46,000
kind of put into uh uh your mind to
think about, we are one of the only

761
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:50,799
municipalities that has um their own
water and sewer system that does not

762
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:56,079
require a certificate of occupancy when
a house is sold or a sewer lateral scope

763
01:06:54,160 --> 01:07:00,960
when a house is sold. Now, we do have a
sewer lateral where Alex goes out, looks

764
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:05,839
at it from the inside, and says, "Yep,
we're good." Um, however, as we know,

765
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:10,480
Toppton is 150 years old, which means
there are houses that are 150 years old.

766
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:15,440
Uh, I I think it's something that to
protect us and to protect homeowners. I

767
01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:19,760
think it's something we should think
about. A certificate of occupancy would

768
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:26,240
just be an inspection, but it can be a
third party inspector that the seller of

769
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:30,480
a home would pay for to go in to make
sure, you know, we had a situation on

770
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:34,000
Main Street with a water bill. That
wouldn't have happened if we would have

771
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:38,000
had a certificate of occupancy
inspection. Uh sewer lateral, again,

772
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:42,400
it's third party, uh a third party
person that would go out and put a scope

773
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:46,240
down and make sure everything is okay.
Again, we had other issues with sewer.

774
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Maybe it would happen if we would
require that. But it's just something to

775
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:55,039
think about in the future. And again,
I'm not saying we have to be like every

776
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:59,440
other municipality, but there's a reason
why they do it. It's to protect

777
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:05,400
everybody involved. So, just think about
that. All right. Hearing the visitors on

778
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:05,400
anything else.

779
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:12,000
And here we go. I need a motion to
adjourn.

780
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:16,799
» Should I say?
>> All right. Thank you.

781
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:21,159
» Oh, you were so close. You said 805.
>> It's 806. Oh, man.

782
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,960
» You kidding me? Order looking