[0:02] Yes.
[0:02] >> All right. So, it's August 28th, 27th
[0:08] 7th. We we went through this earlier.
[0:10] >> My god.
[0:11] >> And it's Mark, Jeremy, and Austin uh
[0:15] attending on the meeting. And
[0:19] >> can I grab that? Can I grab yours or
[0:21] grab that agenda? Yeah. Sorry. You want
[0:24] to grab just an agenda?
[0:25] >> Yeah, just an agenda. And I'll have one
[0:27] for myself. Okay. Okay.
[0:30] All right. So, first order of business,
[0:33] we need to
[0:35] approve our meeting minutes from last
[0:37] time.
[0:38] >> Uh, move to approve the minutes.
[0:40] >> Thank you.
[0:41] >> Do we need a second?
[0:42] >> Yeah.
[0:43] >> Second.
[0:44] >> Thanks, Austin. And all in favor?
[0:46] >> They are approved.
[0:48] >> All right.
[0:49] >> And on the new business tonight is you
[0:52] gentlemen at 57 East Main Street.
[0:56] >> And who is Akil?
[0:57] >> Me.
[0:57] >> How do you do? My name is Mark.
[0:59] >> Nice to meet you.
[1:00] >> And how do you do too?
[1:01] >> I'm good. How are you?
[1:02] >> Um, you have a exterior building
[1:05] modifications and signage.
[1:07] >> This is the former Liberty Tax building.
[1:09] >> Oh, yes. I'm your backyard neighbor. I'm
[1:12] president of the Nutmeg Conservatory.
[1:16] » Uh, you have uh you have the the the
[1:18] whatever was emailed to you, right,
[1:20] Austin? So, you can see this stuff.
[1:22] >> Wow.
[1:23] >> Yes, I got everything. Thank you.
[1:25] >> Okay. All right. Good. Okay.
[1:28] you into the building too.
[1:33] >> Or is that
[1:34] >> Oh, so
[1:36] the exterior is going to be
[1:38] >> It just looks like
[1:40] >> So So it's pretty much it's I mean it's
[1:41] just like a a kind of a square building,
[1:44] right? Yeah.
[1:45] >> It's just going to be panels on the
[1:46] wall,
[1:48] >> then the signs on top of
[1:49] >> Very handsome.
[1:50] >> Yeah. So those are that's that's wood
[1:52] paneling on the outside.
[1:53] >> It's going to be plastic.
[1:55] >> It's almost like PC.
[1:57] >> Yeah. It's almost like vertical um
[2:03] what do you call it? Siding.
[2:05] >> Yeah.
[2:12] [clears throat]
[2:12] >> So, tell me a little bit about your
[2:13] project. Obviously, it's a deli and
[2:15] grocery.
[2:16] >> Yeah, it's going to be that.
[2:17] >> Oh, wow. Specialty groceries. Specialty
[2:20] groceries. It's going to be like all the
[2:23] groceries like juices,
[2:27] sodas,
[2:28] uh snacks and all that.
[2:30] >> So, like a quick pickup.
[2:31] >> Yes.
[2:32] >> Okay.
[2:32] >> You have a You're going to have a deli
[2:33] in there, too.
[2:34] >> Deli. Yep.
[2:35] >> That's the
[2:36] >> juice bar, salad bar, and smoothies like
[2:40] >> So, is it eat in as well? No.
[2:44] >> Okay.
[2:45] >> No, no tables at all.
[2:46] >> Okay. So, it's So,
[2:47] >> I just happened to see some tables,
[2:48] that's why.
[2:50] the rendering. Yeah.
[2:53] >> Okay.
[2:53] >> Yeah. So, this would be a uh you know
[2:56] classified as a retail use under under
[2:58] our regulations then if it's not sit
[3:00] down. So, it's not a restaurant.
[3:01] Sometimes one or two tables are fine
[3:03] without having to change that use. But
[3:06] >> yeah.
[3:09] » And what else can you tell us about it?
[3:12] >> I mean, it's going to be different than
[3:15] other ones. I don't know if there's
[3:16] other ones here or not, but this is
[3:18] going to be like a New York style one.
[3:20] >> Yeah.
[3:20] >> So, it's going to be different foods.
[3:22] >> And when you say New York style, you
[3:23] mean Manhattan.
[3:25] >> Uh, we have one in the Bronze.
[3:28] >> Okay.
[3:29] That's still New York. Now, that
[3:30] to me that makes sense. Okay. Now, I was
[3:32] just wondering.
[3:33] >> Um, I like that idea. So, great. So,
[3:37] this is the lighting you're looking to
[3:38] do though, like uh uh down lighting,
[3:41] like just just fixtures on the small
[3:43] fixtures on the building. But the logo
[3:45] it might be from the inside. It's going
[3:47] to be a light box just for
[3:49] >> Okay. So you are gonna internally light
[3:52] the light. Okay.
[3:52] >> And those ones is going to be the lights
[3:54] from the outside.
[3:56] >> Okay. So you're not doing any other. So
[3:58] nothing nothing else on site for
[4:00] lighting except those just those uh wall packs essentially. Yeah. Okay. And
[4:05] internally lit sign.
[4:08] >> All right. What about the back of the
[4:10] building?
[4:12] Um,
[4:13] >> I mean in a lighting sense there
[4:15] security lighting. Is there
[4:17] >> ambient lighting for because there's a
[4:19] like a wall
[4:21] >> behind it? Like there's a back there's
[4:23] like a backyard. Yep.
[4:24] >> So is there like
[4:26] >> security lighting and
[4:28] >> probably going to have like a small
[4:29] >> because there's lighting in the parking
[4:30] lot.
[4:30] >> Yeah. Okay.
[4:31] >> Because I know the parking lot.
[4:32] >> Yeah. So you keep are you keep a
[4:34] dumpster a dumpster on the lot?
[4:35] >> I mean it's going to be the same one as
[4:37] Sassos.
[4:38] >> Oh, okay. So you're sharing you're
[4:39] sharing one with them. Okay. Oh, that's
[4:41] it. Solve that, right? You're sharing it
[4:43] or is it going to be bigger?
[4:44] >> No, he said we gonna I don't know if
[4:45] he's going to make it bigger, but he
[4:46] said we said he's going to be sharing. I
[4:48] think I don't know if he's going to get
[4:49] a bigger ones. I think maybe Matt.
[4:51] >> Yeah, for Matt.
[4:52] >> Yeah, because in the lease he said it's
[4:54] going to be like including the
[4:58] trash like yarding and everything on
[5:01] them.
[5:02] >> So, his dumpster's been there back
[5:04] hidden back there for I mean you can you
[5:06] is it noticeable to you?
[5:08] >> Right.
[5:08] >> Well, I know where it is.
[5:09] >> Yeah. Yeah. But in the sense that if
[5:11] it's going to have more of a food
[5:13] >> I mean I never see it but you you
[5:14] probably do.
[5:15] >> But there's a part of it is that he has
[5:17] a it's a food use
[5:19] >> also. Yeah. Yeah.
[5:21] >> And now there's going to be more. So I
[5:22] just wondered if it was going to be a
[5:24] >> a bigger one
[5:24] >> a larger or different capacity.
[5:27] >> Yeah.
[5:28] >> Good question. I I
[5:29] >> Do you want me to call Matt right now
[5:31] and see
[5:32] >> if you if you have him? I'm just curious
[5:35] because of animals. Are they going to size up the dumpsters
[5:38] or is it They've got plenty of room
[5:41] >> cuz there has been a rodent problem back
[5:44] there.
[5:44] >> Has been a rodent problem everywhere.
[5:46] >> Oh, what?
[5:46] >> Been getting a lot of a lot of rat
[5:48] complaints because of some demolition
[5:50] and stuff that's gone on.
[5:51] >> Well, yes, demolition uh on intentional
[5:55] and unintentional depending on the lot.
[5:57] >> No. Right.
[5:59] >> Well, I'm just curious too because we
[6:00] have a lot of young children.
[6:03] >> Just curious. It does. It's
[6:06] nothing more than just wondering.
[6:08] >> Just for the record, he's he's calling
[6:09] Matt Cypriano, the owner of the
[6:11] building.
[6:12] >> Hey, how are you, Matt?
[6:13] >> Good. Ke, how you doing?
[6:15] >> Good, good. I'm right now uh meeting
[6:16] with the town and they're having a
[6:19] question about the dumpster. They said,
[6:21] is it going to be bigger? Are you
[6:23] changing it to be bigger?
[6:25] >> Yeah, we're going to we're going to
[6:26] change the location so it's not directly
[6:28] behind your spot and we're they're going
[6:30] to be bigger and they're going to get
[6:32] emptied three times a week. Ah, so
[6:34] that's just going to be on the other
[6:35] side of the lot like behind your
[6:37] building. Is that is that going to be
[6:38] more of the location? This is This is
[6:39] Jeremy, city planner.
[6:41] >> Hey, Jeremy. How are you?
[6:42] >> Good. Good.
[6:44] >> So, they're going to be in the back left
[6:46] corner if you're at like the on the deck
[6:49] of Sassos in the back.
[6:51] >> Yeah,
[6:51] >> they're going to be in the back left
[6:53] corner basically on the other side of
[6:56] where the Warner's transformer is.
[6:58] >> Okay. Yeah. So, we're trying to just
[7:00] keep the dumpsters uh one centralized
[7:03] location uh easier for the pickups and I
[7:07] just don't want to have I don't want to
[7:09] have three four sets of dumpsters in
[7:11] this back.
[7:11] >> No, that makes sense. Is Is it going to
[7:13] be like a It's Is it kind of like
[7:14] against the retaining wall? Is that
[7:17] >> Yeah. Like um you you see where the uh
[7:21] see where it's all dug up back there?
[7:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[7:24] >> It's it's going to be back it's going to
[7:26] be back there like where that black is.
[7:28] So it'll be tucked way out of view of
[7:30] the street, but yeah. Okay.
[7:32] >> Yeah, it'll be I'm trying to keep that,
[7:34] you know, if you get any critters or
[7:36] anything like that, I don't want them
[7:37] near any of the buildings or the
[7:38] restaurant, you know.
[7:39] >> Sure. Yeah. Okay. Great.
[7:41] >> Okay.
[7:41] >> Yeah. Excellent. Yep.
[7:44] >> Perfect. Thank you. Y
[7:47] >> good question. Good answer.
[7:49] >> Yeah.
[7:49] >> That's great. Okay.
[7:52] >> Yep.
[7:53] >> So, it might not be out of your view,
[7:54] but it'll be out of the street view. No,
[7:56] my my thought was more of capacity.
[7:58] >> I mean, if you're on the if you're in
[8:00] the uh upstairs in the in the Nutmeg,
[8:02] you're you're going to be able to see
[8:03] it.
[8:04] >> No, I was just thinking of um animals.
[8:07] Believe it or not, there's even bears
[8:09] downtown.
[8:10] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[8:11] >> We've had bears in the back of the
[8:12] parking lot and we actually somebody
[8:14] sent me a video of a bear walking past
[8:16] our building and the Warner theater.
[8:18] >> Yeah. Going in going into the in on the
[8:20] way to the cemetery in the back.
[8:22] >> Uh I think that's where he eventually
[8:24] went.
[8:24] >> Yeah. So we have bears and of course
[8:26] there's skunks, raccoons,
[8:28] >> right? Yeah.
[8:29] >> All of a sudden the wildlife is coming
[8:30] out.
[8:31] >> Yeah.
[8:32] >> So I just wonder but that's great. I
[8:33] mean to have more pickup too is is a
[8:37] very good idea. That's really good.
[8:39] >> Okay. Yeah. All right.
[8:42] Uh so what's your color scheme?
[8:44] Obviously it's brown.
[8:45] >> Brown and gold and bronze.
[8:49] >> Brown and black.
[8:50] So yeah, this is so the
[8:52] edge right here is going to be brown and
[8:54] this is black.
[8:55] >> Okay. And you have like gold letters and
[8:58] you said those are going to be
[8:59] backlight.
[9:00] >> Yeah, these ones are going to be
[9:02] backlight like this. Maybe like a light
[9:03] here but here
[9:06] only the logo is going to be with the
[9:08] light box light box.
[9:10] >> So these top lights are going to shine
[9:11] down in these letters from above.
[9:13] >> Yeah.
[9:14] >> Is that going to illuminate them to your
[9:16] satisfaction?
[9:17] >> Because the light is coming down. It's
[9:19] not in front of them.
[9:21] I mean there you can see the letters now
[9:23] because you pinched it.
[9:24] >> Yeah.
[9:24] >> I mean sometimes are these are these
[9:26] going to be a little bit projected off
[9:28] the building.
[9:29] >> So
[9:30] >> are they going to be right against the
[9:31] building?
[9:33] >> It's going to be he says it's going to
[9:35] come in half an inch flat.
[9:38] >> Yeah. So so I was going to say some
[9:40] sometimes just doing LEDs behind it they backlight it so you see the you see
[9:45] the outline of the just like around the
[9:48] letter behind. So, so the the lights are
[9:50] hidden, but it backlights the whole
[9:51] sign.
[9:52] >> Yep.
[9:52] >> So, so you see the outline of the of the
[9:54] sign.
[9:55] >> The guy on the who's going to do it when
[9:58] I called him, he said that they're
[10:02] shiny. So, when the light is on top,
[10:05] they're going to shine there.
[10:07] >> Okay. And but the the other logo is
[10:10] going to be going to be internally lit.
[10:11] Yeah. Okay.
[10:15] And it looks like there's lights
[10:17] underneath the roof socket.
[10:21] >> Yeah, that's there's lights under the
[10:23] socket of the roof.
[10:24] >> And if that's the case, as long as they
[10:25] recess, they they'll meet the
[10:27] >> eliminate the
[10:28] >> the cut the cut off uh requirements
[10:32] >> and you're using the same lights in the
[10:33] parking area.
[10:36] >> There's You don't have any freestanding
[10:38] lights or anything like that. It's all
[10:40] >> It's all just on the building. Well,
[10:42] there's parking in front of the building
[10:43] from the street,
[10:44] >> but aren't there lights?
[10:47] >> There's street lights. That's it.
[10:48] >> Yeah. Or not. Yeah, the the the side the
[10:51] city owned sidewalk lights.
[10:52] >> Okay. So, there's no lights on the
[10:53] property.
[10:54] >> No, no, not not right now. There's no
[10:56] poles.
[10:58] >> Yeah, it's just the It's just the um
[11:00] sidewalk lighting for the city
[11:02] >> that the city installed.
[11:04] >> That's sufficient lighting for you.
[11:07] >> Um we're not sure yet. We're not sure.
[11:10] we haven't seen at night like
[11:12] [clears throat]
[11:14] >> maybe like if we see it's not enough we
[11:16] could just
[11:17] >> so what are your what are your what are
[11:19] your proposed what are you doing for
[11:21] hours of operation
[11:22] >> hours
[11:24] >> probably 5
[11:26] to 10 or 11 12
[11:28] >> so so you're not it's so you're going to
[11:30] be closed overnight like overnight okay
[11:35] so in the winter you're going to have a
[11:37] lot of darkness in the summer you're
[11:39] going to be lighted
[11:40] most of the time. [clears throat]
[11:44] >> Yeah. [snorts]
[11:47] » Is there um
[11:50] a street number on the building the
[11:53] address?
[11:54] >> There's nothing but uh
[11:55] >> there is only seven.
[11:58] >> It's
[11:59] >> and the other five is
[12:01] >> one must have fallen off.
[12:02] >> Yes.
[12:03] >> Uh so we always Yeah. We always talk
[12:05] about the identifying
[12:07] >> and it's not only for fire, but it's
[12:10] sometimes for the ambulance.
[12:12] >> Okay.
[12:12] >> The the fire department probably is more
[12:14] aware of where buildings are.
[12:16] >> Yeah.
[12:16] >> But the ambulance in town um they're not
[12:19] always they don't live in Torington.
[12:22] >> So when they go to a location because we
[12:24] call the my business we call the the
[12:26] ambulance frequently. They appreciate an
[12:29] address so they they can look up where
[12:32] the building is.
[12:33] >> Yeah. Um because sometimes buildings
[12:36] have multiple doors in it or businesses
[12:38] in the same building. So it's just a
[12:41] good idea to have an identification in
[12:43] case there's
[12:44] >> um I mean somebody could have a heart
[12:46] attack.
[12:47] >> Yeah.
[12:47] >> Or fall, you know, something like that.
[12:50] >> So
[12:51] >> we're thinking to add the number like 57
[12:53] right here, but that's what what it is.
[12:57] >> Oh, that's where it is now.
[12:58] >> Yeah. I mean, if you guys want me to put
[12:59] it somewhere else, I can. I mean, we
[13:01] usually ask over the entrance or near
[13:03] the entrance, but
[13:04] >> is that a a transom or a light over the
[13:07] doorway? Is that a window above the
[13:09] door?
[13:10] >> No,
[13:10] >> the duria goes all the way up
[13:14] >> to the top. So, we can't We could just
[13:16] put it on top if you want. Like
[13:18] >> I mean, they could always do it on the
[13:19] glass, right?
[13:20] >> On the glass. Yeah.
[13:22] >> You said 57.
[13:23] >> Yeah, 57.
[13:23] >> So, say if you had
[13:26] 57 on the glass.
[13:28] >> Okay. And then you could see it even
[13:30] from the light from inside. You could
[13:32] still see the
[13:33] >> see the
[13:33] >> the light from behind would show 57.
[13:35] >> Yep.
[13:36] >> Okay.
[13:36] >> I mean that would be perfect. Big
[13:38] enough, you know.
[13:38] >> Yeah. Big enough.
[13:39] >> Large and black
[13:41] >> to match.
[13:42] >> Yeah.
[13:42] >> You could have larger because it's only
[13:44] the two numbers.
[13:44] >> Two numbers. Yeah.
[13:46] >> That wouldn't be bad.
[13:47] >> Yeah.
[13:48] >> If that's okay.
[13:48] >> Would you want you want it black or
[13:50] white?
[13:50] >> Well, I'm just thinking their theme is
[13:52] black. There's light behind it.
[13:54] >> Yeah. I'm just thinking about visibility
[13:56] >> during the day.
[13:57] >> Yeah. either in the day or at night with
[13:59] black or or black with with a white
[14:01] outline
[14:02] >> or gold or
[14:03] >> Yeah, gold seems to be their color.
[14:05] >> Yeah. Yeah, I think it' be great.
[14:08] >> Gold might actually look best.
[14:10] >> Yeah,
[14:10] >> I think I think black might kind of get
[14:12] a little hidden.
[14:14] >> Yeah, I hear that every time black.
[14:16] >> Yeah,
[14:17] >> gold would be Yeah,
[14:18] >> pretty good.
[14:19] >> And it'll match your theme.
[14:21] >> Okay.
[14:21] >> Yeah.
[14:23] >> A plastic five and a plastic seven.
[14:26] But um
[14:30] >> I mean I uh what I what I'll know is I
[14:32] sent it out for for review from a couple
[14:35] of couple of folks and Mark McCarron did
[14:38] not he just approved without commenting.
[14:40] So he must not have had a lot of
[14:41] concerns about about the theme here. So
[14:45] >> well
[14:45] >> he would have said so if he did
[14:46] >> he would have he would have um given
[14:49] that this was a gas station.
[14:52] >> Yep.
[14:53] >> You know
[14:54] >> and then the tax office. I mean, even
[14:56] going back further, it was a horse
[14:57] stable.
[14:58] >> Oh.
[14:59] >> So, and it was part of what was a hotel
[15:02] on the corner many, many, many years
[15:04] ago. So, this building has often been um
[15:10] like a service building
[15:12] >> in its lifetime.
[15:13] >> Yeah.
[15:14] >> Well, that's great.
[15:15] >> So, who we're talking about is the
[15:17] director of the historical society. We
[15:20] always refer the the you know the
[15:24] especially in downtown the architectural
[15:26] review um packages to him and uh you
[15:30] know he often comments but he but he
[15:32] just hit approve in our system without
[15:34] commenting on this. What do
[15:34] >> you think? It well you know it it blends
[15:37] in. It's it's a handsome
[15:40] >> renovation. [clears throat]
[15:41] >> It's it's very attractive. Um, the
[15:44] building next to you is uh trimmed in
[15:47] black and brick, you know, so it it
[15:51] looks nice as well. Um,
[15:55] and the other comments were from Nate.
[15:57] Um, you know, he just commented on
[16:00] lighting. He said there are flood lights
[16:01] on the building that'll need to be taken
[16:04] off because they're not compliant. Yeah,
[16:05] >> they they have to be full cut offs. So
[16:07] the so the existing flood lights would
[16:09] need to be removed. um signage. He'll,
[16:13] you know, you'll you'll go through a
[16:15] whole signage package with with us and
[16:17] with and or with me uh for the for the
[16:20] site plan approval and with with Nate.
[16:22] You'll pull you'll pull the actual sign
[16:24] permits when it's time to install all
[16:25] the signs.
[16:26] >> Yep.
[16:26] >> Um and he'll go over all you know it
[16:31] some sometimes it depends on what you
[16:33] do, but sometimes all the if you put
[16:34] stuff in the windows, they have to be
[16:36] approved as signs and things like that.
[16:38] But just depends. You'll you'll you can
[16:40] chat with Nate with what you want to do.
[16:42] >> Okay.
[16:42] >> Uh for signage, um if you put any
[16:46] lighted signage in the windows, it has
[16:48] to be static. So if you put like an open
[16:50] sign in the window, it can't flash or
[16:52] blink.
[16:52] >> Okay.
[16:53] >> Uh
[16:53] >> and nothing traveling.
[16:55] >> Yeah. No scrolling scrolling signs.
[16:58] >> Yep.
[16:59] >> All right.
[17:00] >> And then uh his his only other question
[17:02] was any landscaping proposed because
[17:04] it's kind of barren in the front for
[17:06] landscaping. We're thinking to put like
[17:08] some palm flowers, but
[17:09] >> planter boxes, stuff like that. Yeah,
[17:11] just to dress things up cuz you'd have
[17:13] to tear up the asphalt to put anything
[17:14] else in.
[17:15] >> Yeah,
[17:15] >> but um Yeah, it was just kind of parking
[17:18] lot between there and the street.
[17:19] >> Yeah. No, there's there's only black
[17:22] top.
[17:22] >> Yeah.
[17:23] >> Between the sidewalk and your and the
[17:24] store.
[17:25] >> Yeah,
[17:25] >> planters would be nice. Anything to
[17:27] dress it up would be would be fantastic
[17:29] because we're not, you know, we're not
[17:30] going to make you rip up asphalt for if
[17:33] you were if you were redoing the whole
[17:34] site then we' we'd have you put some
[17:37] grass in or something, but you're not
[17:38] all you're doing is changing the use of
[17:40] the building. So,
[17:41] >> you know, and anything uh anything you
[17:44] could do to dress the site up would be
[17:46] great.
[17:48] >> Deliveries coming through the front
[17:49] door.
[17:50] >> I mean, for product
[17:52] >> or from from the back.
[17:54] >> Oh, the Okay.
[17:55] >> There's a back door. Well, I know
[17:56] there's a back area, but there's a back
[17:58] door.
[17:58] >> I mean, I have It has a garage door in
[18:01] the back.
[18:02] >> Oh, for
[18:03] >> Well, because it was a garage.
[18:04] >> Yeah. So,
[18:05] >> yeah,
[18:05] >> right here there's a roller door which
[18:09] goes to the back. We were We'll have
[18:11] like all the inventory extras here.
[18:15] >> And there's already room for a truck to
[18:16] swing around the back side of the
[18:18] building.
[18:18] >> I think there is. Yeah.
[18:19] >> All the way. All the way around.
[18:21] >> I think it's enclosed. I think when you
[18:24] look at it this way, the the opening is
[18:26] on this side. I don't think this side is
[18:28] opening. It's like a wall.
[18:29] >> Yeah. So, you'd have the truck the truck
[18:31] would have to back up
[18:33] >> tight here. So, there can't be a car
[18:35] going through. It can, but it'll be
[18:36] tight. But, we usually just go around.
[18:39] >> You're you're probably just getting, you
[18:40] know, box truck deliveries or something
[18:43] like that, too. Like, Yeah.
[18:45] >> Yeah. Your typical like your Coca-Cola
[18:47] truck drives through to refill.
[18:49] >> Yeah.
[18:51] Yep. There's there's space on this on
[18:53] this property even even out in front of
[18:54] the building for deliveries.
[18:56] >> Oh, we even have trailers.
[18:58] >> Yeah.
[18:59] >> So,
[18:59] >> Yep.
[19:00] >> And then the um the flow of the traffic,
[19:03] you enter over here and you go around
[19:05] this way.
[19:05] >> Yeah.
[19:10] » Um
[19:13] >> signage, address, lighting.
[19:14] >> Yep.
[19:14] >> Anything else?
[19:16] >> I mean, look, we're not looking really
[19:18] at landscaping and site design. you go
[19:20] are you going to remark the parking on
[19:22] the property
[19:24] >> cuz it's all faded?
[19:25] >> Yeah, probably.
[19:26] >> Just so when you re just when you remark
[19:28] it, I don't I don't remember seeing a a
[19:31] compliant um park uh ADA parking space
[19:34] there.
[19:34] >> So, you got to make sure you just got to
[19:36] make sure you do the handicap.
[19:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. The handicap parking space.
[19:39] You just have to make sure it's a van
[19:41] accessible space. So, it's a little bit
[19:42] wider.
[19:43] >> Okay.
[19:43] >> Uh it's it's 16 ft wide, 8 ft of
[19:46] striping.
[19:46] >> Okay.
[19:47] >> And and the right signage.
[19:48] >> Okay. Yeah. So, so beyond that, the park
[19:51] the parking is kind of pre-existing. So,
[19:53] we're not going to get too um picky
[19:55] about the parking. It's the ADA space
[19:57] cuz that kind of goes above our heads.
[19:59] >> Yeah.
[20:00] >> You know, the the like, you know, ADA
[20:03] laws and things like that. So,
[20:05] >> um so I mean, as long as that space is
[20:09] installed properly, I think we're fine
[20:11] installed and marked and all that. Yeah.
[20:15] Um, other than that, the aesthetic part
[20:18] we've I think we've covered.
[20:20] >> No, I think
[20:20] >> the transitions, the the the aesthetics.
[20:23] Yeah.
[20:25] >> Yeah.
[20:25] >> It looks nice at night.
[20:27] >> Yeah,
[20:28] >> I'm sure it'll look okay in the daytime.
[20:32] >> Any other points of interest?
[20:33] >> I don't think so. We're not There's no
[20:35] other changes to the building besides
[20:37] the the, you know, siding and lighting
[20:40] and signage and all that stuff. So,
[20:44] It's a nice idea. What made you come to
[20:46] Toronto?
[20:47] >> I mean, we live in Oid since 2017 or 16.
[20:52] >> I grew up.
[20:53] >> We come here a lot. We like We get a lot
[20:55] of things here done. A lot.
[20:56] >> I mean, I've we came to as soon as we
[21:00] came here and we went to Gilbert High
[21:02] School.
[21:02] >> Yeah, we did. I did, too.
[21:03] >> Yeah.
[21:03] >> Really? Yeah.
[21:05] >> Re recent grads or
[21:08] >> recent grads?
[21:10] >> What did you When did you graduate?
[21:12] >> Me? Um 22 or 21.
[21:15] >> 21. Yeah.
[21:17] >> I I graduated in CO.
[21:19] >> Oh. Oh, great.
[21:21] >> So, it was like in the cars
[21:23] >> class of 1993.
[21:26] >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. Co ru so many things.
[21:28] >> Yeah. That was like
[21:30] >> Yeah.
[21:31] >> We also had this same idea in Winston,
[21:34] but we closed it.
[21:36] >> Okay.
[21:36] >> Oh, did you start one in Winston?
[21:38] >> Yeah.
[21:38] >> And it was like in a bad spot. Oh. So,
[21:41] >> well, you got you got a good spot here.
[21:43] You're going to get, you know, you're
[21:45] going to get a good amount of foot
[21:47] traffic, especially on show nights.
[21:48] >> Honestly, this one, we've been looking
[21:50] at this spot for like two years. Put
[21:52] paper in there. Nobody answered. I've
[21:54] been calling. I've been texting.
[21:56] Nobody's answering.
[21:57] >> Well, it's been in ownership flux.
[21:59] >> Yeah. Okay.
[21:59] >> For some time.
[22:00] >> Matt uh only bought it not that long
[22:03] ago, I think.
[22:04] >> Was it?
[22:05] >> Less than a year ago. Yeah.
[22:07] >> Yep.
[22:08] >> Yeah. We've watched that since it was
[22:10] Liberty Tax and enclosed,
[22:12] >> it's been empty.
[22:14] >> Yeah.
[22:14] >> Uh and the Roves,
[22:17] they went just back and forth with what
[22:19] to do with the properties, etc. Um and
[22:22] there were just options of what to who
[22:25] was going to buy what.
[22:27] >> Yep.
[22:28] >> So, um because we even looked at it, but
[22:31] it was anything we could use because we
[22:34] like I said, we're we're the nutmeg back
[22:36] here.
[22:36] >> Yeah. Our kids will be coming to you for food, I'm sure.
[22:42] >> Yep. Do you deliver?
[22:43] >> We're gonna have Door Dash and we're
[22:45] gonna try to get Door Dash and
[22:46] >> That's very popular.
[22:48] >> Get it right now.
[22:49] >> And and as much again, okay, New York
[22:51] Deli, I get it.
[22:53] >> What might be a specialty that you are
[22:56] going to bring that's different than any
[22:58] other deli?
[22:59] So the I mean the deli is going to be
[23:02] different because we have smoothies like
[23:04] we make smoothies right next to it fresh
[23:07] with fruits and everything even though
[23:09] we have like protein shake uh protein
[23:12] >> juice with it.
[23:13] >> Sure. Yeah.
[23:13] >> We have like different foods that I
[23:16] never seen here.
[23:17] >> Like you have the chopped cheese,
[23:20] >> the steak and cheese, the New York
[23:21] style, the you have the quesadilla.
[23:24] >> Yeah.
[23:24] >> And there's like a lot of them. Like
[23:28] >> we're also going to have like salad bar
[23:30] where you come pick wherever.
[23:33] >> Oh, good. Thank you. I have a good tail
[23:35] bar.
[23:35] >> Nice.
[23:36] >> That's what we have there. So, we want
[23:38] to bring it here.
[23:39] >> And you're in walking distance to city
[23:40] hall, so you have to impress people
[23:41] here, too.
[23:43] >> Well, you walk through the park.
[23:44] >> Yeah, exactly. That's usually what I do
[23:46] is just cut straight through.
[23:47] >> Exactly. Yeah, that's fine.
[23:50] >> Yeah. Um
[23:52] uh you got anything, Austin?
[23:55] No, I like the sound way it sounds,
[23:56] guys.
[23:57] >> Yeah, good.
[23:58] >> Austin, would you like to make a motion?
[24:01] >> I'll make a motion.
[24:04] >> Okay. To accept
[24:05] >> to recommend to recommend uh or make
[24:07] positive recommendations on the on the
[24:10] project. Yeah,
[24:14] >> I think that was a yes.
[24:15] >> That was a yes. [laughter]
[24:17] >> Well, I think
[24:18] >> I will I will second.
[24:20] >> Yes. With um we talked about the
[24:21] address, the lighting. I think we hit
[24:23] all the points that we needed to in that
[24:25] motion.
[24:25] >> Yep.
[24:26] >> Okay. Very good.
[24:28] >> Um and all in favor
[24:30] >> I very nice.
[24:32] >> I
[24:32] >> Congratulations.
[24:33] >> Thanks, guys. It's very sweet.
[24:35] >> Um All right. So, I'll catch up with you
[24:37] after we kind of do what we have to do
[24:39] with all this.
[24:40] >> And you know, I had the question about
[24:41] when I came earlier about the the design
[24:45] that we're changing the fridge.
[24:47] >> So, what we're trying to do is just swap
[24:50] this with that. Oh, yeah. Uh, so that's
[24:53] This doesn't already exist, right? Oh,
[24:55] sorry. Um, hold on. Let's do this. Um,
[24:58] motion to close. I'll make a motion to
[25:00] close.
[25:00] >> Oh, yes. Sorry. All in favor? I I We're
[25:03] journ Thanks, Austin.
[25:05] >> Yep. Take care, guys. Yeah, you too.
[25:09] Hang on one sec.