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council meeting in March here we have
Ryan Keith from k-e-r-m cadeus live this

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is being broadcast live on the local
radio stations and it's also being

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preserved and will be up on Youtube
channel too we also have Miss Cindy

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shealy here from the Torrington Telegram
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our first item of business is the Pledge
of Allegiance and I've asked councilman

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victron to lead us in the pledge

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all
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next item on the agenda is the mayor's
informational items and I've asked

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Rhonda Estes our senior accounting clerk
to come tonight and give us a short

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presentation during this section on the
Wyoming community gas program while she

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comes up if she will I will just mention
that the goal of the Wyoming community

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gas program is to create an insanity
Insanity for competition among the

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natural gas providers
to get the lowest cost to the consumer

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also the monies come in or come back to
Torrington under this program this year

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we were told by Miss Estes and she
presented us with a check for thirteen

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thousand six hundred and thirty dollars
and very briefly this money is used for

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such things as an ewc scholarship the
Dare golf tournament golf passes for

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fundraisers for rotary and the Valley
Christian School and so on can you

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explain to us just the basics about this
program Mrs Estes sure many years ago

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um actually back when Ed jelovich was
mayor they were at a Wham meeting and

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they were discussing the cost of their
gas bills and at that time we had a sole

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supplier of gas and so several
communities actually 10 of them they

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went together and formed a group and
went to the gas company at that time and

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asked if they could
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create some competition and
and go out and purchase gas from a gas

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company and so at that time they became
the Ten of them became the Torrington

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Division and that was going pretty well
and so the billing is still done through

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our gas company that we currently have
and it's and they do the billing and the

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meter reading any of the services it's
just the commodity commodity portion

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that they were going out and asking for
the competition for

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and so they've done that and
any of that money through the Wyoming

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community gas they were labeled
themselves as Wyoming community gas

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any of that money that is made in that
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it's not to it's not to make money so
those that money comes back to the

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communities
and so that's where those funds that we

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receive each year
um is where those funds are coming from

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and so it is going to be our balloting
season here April 6th through the 26th

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people will be getting their ballots and
there's several ways that they can look

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for the different rate options that they
have and

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the commodity
portion of it that um different

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suppliers are offering and so they can
check prices for that the Wyman

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Community gas is the sole supplier that
gets back to your communities and we

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just like to remind people that keep it
in their mind so that

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our community has benefited well from
this

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the money that we've received back
so if you have a ballot and you want

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help you're welcome to come to City Hall
any of us girls who can help you with

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that as well as you can call or do it
online and so a lot of times people will

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actually group them together if they
have you know five or six

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accounts they usually give us just even
a little bit better price for it so

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you're welcome to give us a call or stop
by and we can help you out

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thank you all right thank you
and just one last thing on that issue

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there are a whole lot of entities and
projects that benefit from this money in

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the City of Torrington oftentimes you'll
see a little sign there Wyoming

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community gas so look for that thank you

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historically in Wyoming cities have been
tasked with providing parks and

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recreational activities
spring is here this city provides an

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abundance of recreational activities and
Parks

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there were numerous city parks we have a
special dog park the Carol Thompson dog

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park that was a public private
Cooperative effort

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we have the swimming pool we have the
golf course we have an RV park we have

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soccer fields baseball and softball
fields a walking path and I invite

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everybody to enjoy all these parks and
activities that we have here in

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Torrington I'm just a notice to pet
owners please clean up after your dogs

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the dogs are your responsibility and
that's a great help to the city if

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people will take care of their dogs and
their dog way so thank you for that

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um I was advised that uh
the bread doctor made a national

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magazine councilman Kelly brought this
to me this is the

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aaaarp magazine that you get if I think
you're 50 or older probably uh it's a

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national magazine and they're Wrecking
recognized in in this magazine and it's

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got a picture of of him with his father
and or him with his daughter and so it's

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available in the current issue of the
art magazine so

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there's that now
as always please slow down watch for

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pedestrians since spring is here watch
for motorcycles bicyclists and there's a

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lot more joggers and such out there so
please keep an eye on them and please

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refrain from your cell phone use while
driving thank you

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the next item on the agenda is the
approval of the consent agenda which

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includes the minutes from the
March 7th 23 council meeting is

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published

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I have a motion from councilman
Patterson to approve the consent agenda

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so I have a second from councilman deal
any discussion gentlemen

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hearing none all those in favor of
approving the consent agenda

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if you can find by saying aye
aye any opposed signify by saying nay

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the consent agenda is approved
next item on the agenda is the approval

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of the agenda
this has been published and sent all the

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council members and appears that you've
all been provided a copy

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I hope to prove the agenda I have a
motion from councilman Kelly to approve

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the agenda do I have a second second I
have a second from councilman Victory

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any discussion down
hearing none I'd call for vote all those

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in favor of approval of the agenda
signify by saying aye

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aye in the opposed signify by saying
they

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genders approved
next item on the agenda is what we call

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the public forum I don't believe there
are any

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is anything put in the box tonight
I don't see any and haven't been advised

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of any but just for informational
purposes if a citizen wants to speak to

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the council at this point the agenda
usually it's at this point in the agenda

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you can fill out a form and receive two
minutes of time to address the council

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no action will be taken but that's an
opportunity for the public to address

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the council
next item on the agenda are the action

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items the first item
on the agenda is the mayor's

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appointments

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and for this meeting gentlemen uh
there are three things

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I have
are asking you to advise a proven

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consent to Anna Barnes as the
I guessed additional

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Municipal associate judge right now John
Patrick is the municipal judge Kenneth

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Brown is
Municipal associate judge and I'm asking

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to include Miss Anna Barnes as a as a
municipal associate judge I know Anna

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she's a practicing attorney in town she
is also a circuit court magistrate and

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as I believe the town attorney for
lingle right now and is engaged in

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private practice so that's Miss Barnes
background

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I'm also asking to for the council to
approve

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the appointment of Gary Olsen to the
lodging Tax Board

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uh Sarah chairs was on that board for
years and chairman for many years I've

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had several conversations with her
her explanation of what makes a good

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member for that board is somebody who is
passionate about tourism in this

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community in Goshen County and in
Torrington that's their big item promote

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tourism and bring in people which
benefits the community so I've asked

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that the council approved the
appointment of Gary Olsen here in town

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Gary Olsen is the owner of TDS and
probably other things in this community

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and has a big building just west of the
courthouse here right in town so that's

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Mr Olsen
and finally on the appointments the

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Torrington Urban systems committee
I have asked chief of police Matt

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Johnson to be on there and he's agreed
to accept an appointment to be on that

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committee and Kelly sitner who is here
with us tonight I can see him straight

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back from me has agreed to be appointed
as a member of the Torrington Urban

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systems committee so if the council has
any questions about those appointments I

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just went over I'm willing to entertain
any questions

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I I don't have a question on that point
he's Mr Mayor but I am curious what the

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Torrington Urban systems committee does
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um I may defer to the director of public
works for a brief background I have a

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obviously not as good at understanding
as he does he's been on that committee

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for a long time so Mr Harkins could you
give us a brief explanation of that

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committee yeah thank you Mr Mayor uh the
urban systems committee is a state

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funded

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coalition
of all municipalities that want to

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participate throughout the state
there's a pot of money that is then

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divvied up between each of the
communities

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currently Torrington receives I think
around a hundred thousand dollars a year

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I think the balance of our account is
about 1.1 million right at right at the

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moment
those funds can be used on what are

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classified as federal aid
roads or routes

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some of the roads within Torrington
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East dam east p
uh West sea those types of roads that

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are basically major roads or collector
roads within the city also obviously the

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various County roads are also eligible
for participation in this

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uh
in this program

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the committee decides
what the best use of the funds would be

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and then approaches the state
to uh

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construct a project so to speak and
utilize those funds

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in the uh in the construction of that
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thank you

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any further questions for me

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these appointments confirmed on mass yes
I would ask for a motion to confirm Miss

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Barnes as Municipal associate judge Mr
Gary Olsen as lodging Tax Board member

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and
Mr Matt or Chief Matt Johnson and Victor

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Kelly sittner as City of Torrington
representatives for the urban systems

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award so if I would I would ask for a
motion to include all three in one

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motion
all right do I have a second second

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I have a motion from councilman
Patterson in a second from councilman

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victron to approve uh Miss Barnes as
Municipal associate judge Mr Gary Olsen

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to be on the lodging Tax Board Chief
Matt Johnson to be on the target Urban

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systems board and Mr Kelly sitting there
to be on the urban systems board any

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discussion

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hearing none all those in favor of
consenting to those appointments signify

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by saying aye aye aye any opposed
signify by saying nay

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all right those people are appointed
thank you Council

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next item on the agenda is
ordinance third reading

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Mr Eddington could you read that
ordinance please

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so Norton's creating and acting Section
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3.20.040 of chapter 1 3.20 the
Torrington Municipal Code authorizing

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and directing execution of the green
energy program subscription confirmation

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by the City of Torrington with the
municipal energy agency of Nebraska

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thank you Mr Eddington
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this is the third reading I know that
there have been some questions from

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Council on the first two readings are
there any questions from Council on this

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third reading

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have not been any changes

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all right if there is no further or no
further questions I'd entertain a motion

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to approve on third reading the uh
authorized the

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ordinance authorizing and directing the
execution of the green energy program

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I want to move to approve the ordinance
I have a motion from Council councilman

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Shelley to approve the Ordinance do I
have a second second a second from

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councilman deal any further discussion
gentlemen

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hearing none all those in favor of
ordinance reading authorizing and

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directing execution of the green energy
program signified by saying aye

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aye aye any opposed signify by saying
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that ordinance is passed on third
reading

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the next item on the agenda is ordinance
on second reading

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Mr Eddington could you read that for us
please and ordinance repealing Section 1

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3.2 4.030 returned to Invisible code
2023 revisions relating to deposits

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okay and this ordinance is presented on
second reading this was a cleanup of the

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ordinances this was an O2 ordinance
which

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contains a procedure for dealing with
utility deposits and so on that is

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Obsolete and is no longer in effect and
the idea is to clear it off the books

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I would move to approve this ordinance
second reading okay I have a motion from

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councilman Patterson to approve this
ordinance on second reading do I have a

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second second I have a second
I think I councilman victim Beach I

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believe I think I have a second from
councilman Victor any further discussion

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gentlemen
hearing none all those in favor of

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approving on second
reading this ordinance repealing section

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13.24.030

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uh all those in favor signify but saying
aye aye aye any opposed signify by

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saying they
that ordinance on second reading is

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passed repealing Section 1 3.24.030

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Council will now be leaving regular
session

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and will now convene as a board of
adjustment

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first item before the council as a board
of adjustment is Mr Mark McMahon is

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requesting a setback variance at 131
Holly Drive

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uh Mr Estes can you give us a little
background on that please thank you

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mayor as you said Mr McCann is asking
for a setback variance on the North

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side of his property from the acquired
20 or 30 foot to 23 foot and on the east

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side of his property from 30 foot to
20.5 foot he wishes to build a little

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bigger garage to store store some
personal equipment I've had no comments

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from the neighbors uh staff would
recommend approval

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and Mr McCann is here if you'd like to
visit with him

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so this is the property in question if
you're not aware of it it's right above

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the swimming pool
this property right here

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what's unique about this property it's
one of the few that has a full solid uh

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fence around it

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are we out here
right here

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so he wants to put this garage right on
the back of this one here

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he wants to come right at you with the
garage and take this block wall out of

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here
so really he's only coming out in front

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of that block wall a few feet on each
side so

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I like again I've had no no comments
from the neighbors staff would recommend

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approval
all right well this is a this is this

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hearing is open to the public does any
member of the public wish to speak to

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this request for variance

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either for or against
seeing no takers

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I would close this portion of this
public hearing on this

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request for variance

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council do you have any further
questions of Mr Estes

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I would just a couple of questions he's
paid the fee

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all the appropriate people were served
with notice of this request there's been

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no objections that is correct mayor
I would assume is this is going to be

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the same material is already on the
house now I would assume so but the

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gentleman's here if you'd like to visit
with him

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you may come up here please

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councilman Kelly I've got to the
building end of it yet so I couldn't

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tell you that

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my question was just is it going to be
the same material on this new edition as

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it is on the old house right so the
house and the uh cinder block fence are

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both stucco and we would match existing
the roof line would match existing

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there's a Circle Drive in the front and
it wouldn't go out to the Circle Drive

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it would stop about two feet from that
Circle Drive

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um it would look similar to the two-car
garage you would have

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on the left side though one garage door
a foot higher for a decent truck so

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but
um you can put the block wall on that

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side too like it is now are you going to
eliminate that so we won't need the

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block wall any longer on this side but
we will tie the back

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of the garage into the existing block
wall so we where you saw the arch in the

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front
there will be

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yeah if you want to go around to the
other side

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the arch will still be there
tree will be gone and as you can see

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from the arch right there will probably
be a eight foot section of that existing

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cinder block stucco wall

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otherwise will match the
exact exact architecture of the building

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I was a carpenter for 20 years and ran a
cabinet shop for seven and I was project

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manager estimator on a commercial
business for another 17 years so I'm

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very familiar with

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you have the same style pitch on it same
yeah that is a two and a half 12 pitch

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on that
it's got 30 inch overhangs and they're

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exposed
and I'm working with the lumberyards

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right now to get a
engineered truss to have the same look

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what's existing there are Cedar two by
eights that are 27 feet long

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can't get those anymore so we're going
to go with some kind of a treated wood

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that will be the same height like the
two by eight you know the 30 inch

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overhang and then on the underside
there's like a AC type plywood exterior

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glue and will match that and we're not
going to drop the roof line we're going

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to keep it the same and we'll we'll sew
it together so that

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it matches
I'm going to do the work myself with my

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brother-in-law

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any further questions for Mr McMahon
thank you sir appreciate it

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thank you I have a motion from
councilman Patterson to approve this at

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variance for Mr McMahon do I have a
second

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second second from councilman Kelly
gentlemen are there any further

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discussion

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right all those in favor of granting
Mark McMahon's request for setback

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variance at 131 Holly Drive signified by
saying aye

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aye any opposed signify by saying nay
that variance is approved

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we are still
in session as the board of adjustment

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and the next item on the agenda for that
is Tom McIntosh is requesting

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setback variants

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at 2317 East E Street
Mr Estes could you give us some

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information on that please yes sir mayor
uh Mr McIntosh is asking for a variance

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to the allowable square footage for an
accessory structure

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he's allowed 700 in that zone of square
footage just to catch the council up to

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speed I don't know if we went through
this but on most zones and most Lots in

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town you're allowed 10 percent of that
square footage of that lot for any

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accessory structures
so if you want to get more square

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footage than allowed in this case it's
seven seven hundred they have to come

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and ask for a variance for additional
square footage which we're getting more

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and more of because everything we get is
bigger bigger and we want to store more

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so
uh Mr McIntosh is asking for an increase

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in that square footage to 1140 for a 440
foot square foot increase and he wants

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to put it on this lot right here
so he is totally uh remodeling this

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house
he has a little garage here he might

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want to speak to you about he spoke to
me since we did the variance application

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he said he might want to tear this
little garage down

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he basically wants to put
a structure similar to his neighbor to

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the north
he basically wants to put that structure

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right there is what he's asking
and again I've had no comments from the

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neighbors no complaints
staff would recommend approval

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all right is Mr McIntosh president yes
would you like to come up and

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answer any questions Council may have so
basically Council that's that's

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basically what that building would look
like on that lot

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and he might he had talked to me about
maybe removing this little smaller

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garage it sits there
that little yellow structure I don't

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know where my mouse went

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right there
so

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he wants to remove that building I think
don't you Tom I think

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oh he's going to leave it now so
all right does council have any

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questions for Mr McIntosh
I have one and just how far is the

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setback from the alley
it's going to be the standard 20 foot

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okay and just so you understand we don't
really allow anybody to get closer than

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20 foot to the alleys because they stick
out in the alley so that's really we've

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had people wanting to do that we've
never really allowed it it's a bad press

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net to get going
for sure

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yeah it'll be 20 foot off the alley
right here

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yeah
it seems like when I drove by the actual

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property it seems like there's more
crowded than that picture would look at

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pardon me
they're actually actually drive by the

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property
it looks like it's a little more crowded

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than that it shows in that picture we
took trees out yeah they wanted to take

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those two trees out it opens it up in
the back

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and then a bunch of bushes along the
alley yeah those those aren't out yet

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but once you take it out it sits in
there it's tight there's no there won't

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be any grass yeah

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this is a 10 foot 10 foot wall structure
it is a little taller than most General

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garages so
what are you going to build it out of

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two by sixes I mean they can make the
same siding and stuff as the house is

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going to have yeah it'll have the LP
latport siding and insulated and heated

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he's currently replacing all the siding
on this house right now he's ripped it

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all down and sheeted it so we completely
gutted the house

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went through the whole thing so I plan
on doing the same thing with what we're

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doing here to
keep it heated keep it nice a good

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little shop

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Council any further questions for Mr
McIntosh

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thank you appreciate it
um there's an opportunity for public

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comments for this variants or against
this variance is there any member of the

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public that has public comments for or
against

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the council granting or
passing this variant

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I see none so I'll close this public
hearing regarding this setback variance

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at 2317 east east e
okay do I have a motion uh I would Mr

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Mayor I would move to approve the
setback variance for Tom McIntosh I have

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a motion from councilman victron to
remove or to approve the setback

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variants for Tom McIntosh at 2317 East E
Street do I have a second

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a second from councilman deal any
further discussion gentlemen Mr Mayor

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just to point clarification uh just for
clarification it's not a setback

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variance it's a square footage increase
variant okay

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reading directly off my agenda I was too
so the motion can reflect that language

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yeah
if that's amenable to you Mr deals with

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that
okay

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all right we've fixed that motion in
that second

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um
any further discussion gentlemen

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hearing none all those in favor of
granting this variance at 2317 East E

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Street signify but saying aye all right
any opposed signify for saying nay

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hearing no names that that variance at
2317 East E Street is approved and

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granted thank you
thank you and now Council where we will

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return to regular session again
next item on the agenda

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is resolution number
2023-8 this is a resolution authorizing

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submission of four Wyoming Homeland
Security Grant applications for the

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purchase of essential Vehicles equipment
and security fencing for the City of

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Torrington

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Emergency Management coordinator Chuck
Canyon present would you want to come up

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and
speak to this Mr Canyon

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Mr Mayor and Council Josh attorney at 18
to read the resolution first yes Mr

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Eddington would you read the resolution
thank you a resolution authorizing

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submission of four Wyoming Homeland
Security Grant applications for the

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purchase of essential Vehicles equipment
and security fencing for the City of

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Torrington
whereas the governing body of the City

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of Torrington desires to participate in
state Wyoming state of Wyoming Homeland

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Security grant program whereas the
government by the City of Torrington

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recognizes need for Central vehicles and
Equipment whereas the governing body of

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the City of Torrington realizes the need
for security to wastewater treatment

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plant whereas the governor embodied the
city of attorney generalizes that the

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grant will provide 100 funding for the
requested projects require no local

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match now therefore be resolved by the
government bond in the City of

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Torrington that Grant applications the
amount of 444 058 and seven cents be

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submitted to the Wyoming Homeland
Security for consideration of funding

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for the purchase of following essential
vehicles and Equipment turning to an

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emergency management vehicle 67
548.61 Torrington police specialized

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Mission vehicle 85 888.47
Carrington police non-lethal training

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equipment eleven thousand fifteen
dollars and forty nine cents parked in

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wastewater treatment plant fence project
279

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605.50 it further resolved that herb
Dolby mayor of Torrington is here by

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designated as authorized representative
the City of Torrington act on behalf of

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the governing Monet and all managers
relating to this Grant application

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thank you Mr Eddington
mayor council I'll stand for questions

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if you have
questions regarding the projects

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I think the primary question I have and
want to make sure that we're clear on

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these are grants that are 100 percent
funded by the Department of Homeland

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Security
yes sir it is federal money passed

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through the state Wyoming office of
Homeland Security

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so there is no possible expense
for the only possible expense that can

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occur is if a project runs over which we
obviously know at bidding time if a

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project runs over the city can choose to
expend the extra money to take care of

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the project or walk away from the ground

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first two items the Emergency Management
vehicle and the police special missions

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yes sir
it seem like we already applied for

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those didn't we yes we did we've applied
for an emergency manager vehicle this

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will be the fourth time around it hasn't
been granted yet

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the specialized Mission vehicle for the
police department was applied for last

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year and not granted
it is one of those things where the what

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we call the senior advisory committee
which consists of

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staff at woes and state government
offices and other emergency managers in

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the state carefully analyze the amount
of money that is available

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the national priorities that are
dictated by FEMA and Department of

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Homeland Security and the state
priorities and they fund these projects

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accordingly
now when these are submitted is there a

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one two three four project a priority
listing yeah yes when a single agency

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submits the when a single agency submits
the funding they are asking us this year

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to prioritize it they're priority listed
on this was the non-lethal training

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equipment for the police department that
simulations training equipment

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um
that was Priority One EMC vehicle was

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priority two the specialized Mission
vehicle for the police department was

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number three and the wastewater
treatment plant was number four

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again those priorities we try to align
those with the priorities listed the

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national priorities listed in the notice
of funding opportunities

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I'm sorry what was that the board can
change the priorities and fun absolutely

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if you'd like to

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these figures for these items are they
bed basis or they just

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they just take a question again there's
something ticking in the background and

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I'm having trouble hearing you
the the prices of the of the items did

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you guys get a bids on them or did you
just look not bids we got quotes

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um
you you understand what's going on in

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the automotive industry
um the specialized Mission vehicle for

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the police department is a Ford Explorer
Max you know the Long Ford Expedition

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I'm sorry and there was ten thousand
dollar difference from base cost of the

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vehicle last year to this year
um and that also includes uh what we

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call Furniture in the vehicle storage
gun lockers uh that type of thing

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emergency vehicle lighting radio
equipment

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um
the whole package for that vehicle the

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Emergency Management vehicle is a
vehicle a Topper slide bed and emergency

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vehicle equipment
you know what I've already got radio

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equipment in the existing vehicle and
tools and all that stuff so it

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that's not listed in that vehicle so it
comes it was about eight thousand

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dollars more than the same vehicle last
year

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now the specialized Mission vehicle is
not an armored vehicle no sir it's a

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Ford Expedition a long one
no we're not not going to get any mraps

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out
can you or the chief explain its purpose

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to me I can sure try but Chief Johnson
would you like to address that

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surely we're looking for a vehicle that
will allow us to respond to a scene with

445
00:37:24,839 --> 00:37:31,740
all of the equipment that we would need
to have right there it would include a

446
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,520
mix of tactical equipment a mix of
administrative equipment other gear our

447
00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:39,480
goal would be to be able to write a
search warrant right there on scene

448
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,940
print it out have it ready to go have
all of our evidence collection equipment

449
00:37:41,099 --> 00:37:46,500
there
and have

450
00:37:43,859 --> 00:37:51,960
um bullet resistant Shields entry
equipment less lethal equipment all of

451
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:58,440
the things that we would need to respond
to anything from a tactical incident to

452
00:37:54,599 --> 00:38:02,119
a in-depth search warrant would be our
goal in responding with that vehicle

453
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:11,000
Chief Johnson with this vehicle if it
were to come to pass be assigned to a

454
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:17,460
particular officer to use
assistant chief Pat Conley he supervises

455
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,200
our investigations team and he also
leads a lot of our tactical effort so we

456
00:38:20,099 --> 00:38:27,780
would have him respond with that so that
he's always coming out anyways we never

457
00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:32,520
give him time off but we would always
want him to respond and he would have

458
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,940
that equipment with him
now as far as the non-lethal training

459
00:38:34,619 --> 00:38:40,020
equipment we've already got some
non-lethal stuff right this is actually

460
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:45,599
a little bit different from the
standpoint of utilization so this is

461
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:50,640
simunitions equipment if you recall last
year we did our first Regional training

462
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:55,079
Endeavor to really focus on an act of
threat in our schools we would really

463
00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:58,920
like to continue being more and more
aggressive on preparing for that type of

464
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:02,700
a scenario be it in a school or anywhere
else because sadly we see those events

465
00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:05,280
happening more frequently across the
country

466
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:09,720
best way that we can train police
officers for that type of a scenario is

467
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,339
to put them in the most realistic
situation we possibly can

468
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:19,980
and so the equipment that Chuck has so
graciously supported us in doing this

469
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:25,619
Grant on is weapon systems that exactly
mimic what we use day in and day out in

470
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:30,780
our police work and they rather than
shooting live ammunition they shoot wax

471
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:36,480
pellets it's a it's a simulated round so
we can completely simulate force on

472
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:42,060
Force training like we did last August
going into the schools the things that

473
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:49,200
we focused on with this grant the only
equipment we currently have is handguns

474
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:53,520
and our officers deploy with rifles and
so we'd like to also have a long gun

475
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,359
system with simunitions so there are
offers officers can deploy as

476
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:01,680
realistically as possible with a
shoulder shoulder fired weapon the other

477
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:07,560
things that we focused on heavily in
this grant are protective equipment

478
00:40:04,099 --> 00:40:12,420
our simulated bad guys last year were
very gracious and kind in sacrificing

479
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:16,440
their bodies for the effort part of our
training but they wound up with some

480
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:21,540
pretty substantial polka dots if you
will as a result of being struck with

481
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:26,760
the rounds and so we're outfitting for
two simulated bad guys to have much more

482
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:32,420
protective equipment so that it's a more
comfortable experience for them as we're

483
00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:32,420
engaging in the training

484
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,619
and again I want to ask
these requests are in line with the

485
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:45,060
priorities
yes um

486
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:49,680
for example the granting agency has
right the the national priorities coming

487
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,940
down one of them is protection of soft
Targets in crowded places

488
00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:58,079
so when you talk about training for
force on Force situations which is you

489
00:40:56,579 --> 00:41:03,240
know you're talking about active shooter
training where the cops are running in

490
00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:09,000
somewhere to face an active shooter this
lines up very well with that National

491
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:14,300
priority it also planning is always a
priority so in doing this and and

492
00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:19,280
establishing this Regional
Regional program we'll call it

493
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:23,700
it's regional intent
we're lining up with planning priorities

494
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,079
we're landing at lining up with
operational coordination because if you

495
00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:32,579
witnessed the
um if you witnessed the training last

496
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:37,800
year what you would have seen was a
mixed group of a couple Torrington PD

497
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:43,800
Officers a highway patrolmen and a
sheriff's deputy or a Wheatland cop

498
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:49,740
sheriff's deputies we had Fort Laramie
police officer there Torrington Goshen

499
00:41:46,859 --> 00:41:55,079
County Fort Laramie or Wyoming highway
patrol because in a real incident in the

500
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:58,619
instant that it happens the first
there's two guys on duty in Torrington

501
00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:03,000
and there's going to be deputies coming
in and it's important for them to be

502
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:07,920
able to work as a team in these fours on
Force incidents so the training the old

503
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:12,380
saying train issue fight fight as you
train

504
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:12,380
so

505
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:23,400
the wastewater treatment plant fence
project is 6225 feet of

506
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:27,960
chain-length fencing to surround the
wastewater treatment plant that also

507
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:32,280
falls underneath the community
resilience because what we're doing is

508
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:34,380
we're deterring pedestrian entry
into

509
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:39,780
um
the facility it's important to note that

510
00:42:37,619 --> 00:42:44,760
it would be easy for somebody to go in
there and tamper with equipment and

511
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:50,160
damage the facility as well as damage
both physically or biologically damage

512
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:56,099
the facility because if you interrupt
the biologic train that's happening to

513
00:42:53,339 --> 00:42:58,980
process that sewage
um

514
00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:05,339
we're going to be having problems
regrowing the bugs so to speak in the

515
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:09,540
existing lagoons so all of these
projects are within the all of them meet

516
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:16,020
multiple
planning operational coordination

517
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:18,440
um saw protection of soft targets things
like that

518
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:25,160
and I had a conversation with you there
have been deer fall in there dogs fall

519
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:31,560
in there
tumbleweeds yeah I don't know if any

520
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:36,060
people have fallen in there I hope not
because I mean it's would be unpleasant

521
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:39,599
but you could it could be fatal yes it's
lined with the slick edges and you may

522
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:44,160
not be able to get out of there if you
fall into there the lagoons are lined

523
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:49,160
with a very heavy plastic that
um

524
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:49,160
probably is quite greasy

525
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:03,060
well we started the conversation about
Greece and the sewers all right

526
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:08,300
gentlemen any further questions for
either

527
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,300
Mr Canyon or chief Johnson

528
00:44:08,579 --> 00:44:18,180
thank you Mr Mayor thank you
there's no further discussion Mr Mayor I

529
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:23,359
would move to approve resolution 2023-8
I have a motion from councilman victron

530
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:28,380
to approve resolution number 20
23-8 authorizing submission for Wyoming

531
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,920
Homeland Security Grant applications for
the purchase of essential Vehicles

532
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,099
equipment and security fencing for the
City of Torrington do I have a second

533
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:41,000
second from councilman Kelly any further
discussion gentlemen

534
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:48,900
hearing none all those in favor of
passing resolution number 20 23-8

535
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:55,619
signify by saying aye
aye any opposed signify for saying nay

536
00:44:52,140 --> 00:45:03,300
that resolution has passed
next item on the agenda is the landfill

537
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:07,980
Consulting engineer five-year agreement
director of Public Works Harkins could

538
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:12,900
you Enlighten us on that thank you Mr
Mayor and Council it's my recommendation

539
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:18,300
that Council approve retaining invert
Miller Engineers under a five-year

540
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:22,319
agreement beginning July 1st 2023 to
perform Engineering Services for the

541
00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:26,520
landfill and authorize the mayor and
clerk to sign

542
00:45:23,819 --> 00:45:30,599
basically I emberg Miller Engineers has
been the landfill consultant since

543
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:34,800
August of 2013.
since that date there have been 13

544
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,280
different amendments to the that
agreement

545
00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:44,160
uh
as I've listed on the memo there have

546
00:45:42,359 --> 00:45:47,579
been numerous items that they have
performed for the city but I think the

547
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:53,180
most notable one is the design and
permitting of the cell 14 for landfill

548
00:45:51,240 --> 00:46:00,420
number two
some of the items that may be requested

549
00:45:56,339 --> 00:46:04,859
are listed further down on that memo but
two of the items that definitely will

550
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,579
have amendments or the environmental
monitoring sampling and reporting for

551
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:15,740
landfill number two which they have been
doing

552
00:46:12,619 --> 00:46:20,640
since 2013 they'll continue to do that
and preparing a feasibility study and a

553
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:24,680
cost estimate
to relocate the Baylor facility out at

554
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:30,180
the landfill
Council approved in last year's budget

555
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:34,380
a certain amount of money for that work
to be done

556
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:40,400
this basically would
proceed with getting a consultant to

557
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:40,400
proceed with that work

558
00:46:40,859 --> 00:46:45,800
all these proposed amendments would be

559
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:56,300
included in the agreement and obviously
would have to come before Council for

560
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:56,300
your approval or denial as you see fit

561
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:05,819
the agreement and the
resulting amendments would be funded out

562
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:11,400
of the sanitation fund
if you have any questions

563
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:16,740
so the the original contact was back in
2013 and it's had 13 amendments yes so

564
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:20,760
it's quite cumbersome to review that
contract because you've got the basic

565
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:25,140
contract and 13 minutes it's getting
very difficult yes

566
00:47:23,339 --> 00:47:30,300
and this is sort of Fresh Start same
same engineering firm same engineering

567
00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:33,540
firm they've been doing a really
terrific job

568
00:47:32,099 --> 00:47:37,940
for the city they've been really
responsive and they work well with the

569
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:43,920
state's DEQ
we've had very little

570
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:48,780
negative comments from DEQ regarding the
work that's been

571
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:53,940
uh submitted to them and they're in
Casper right actually they're Statewide

572
00:47:51,680 --> 00:48:01,260
they have an office out of Cheyenne
office out of Casper uh Steve molt who

573
00:47:57,540 --> 00:48:07,140
was the uh individual that was mainly
working with us was out of Riverton

574
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:12,319
but he is now retiring so we'll be
working both with the Casper and the

575
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:12,319
Cheyenne offices

576
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:21,960
and then I think you mentioned this but
as uh

577
00:48:19,319 --> 00:48:25,800
proposed work comes up the price is
determined in the council it has to come

578
00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:30,780
to before the council to approve that
work exactly the consultant will prepare

579
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:35,700
an amendment to the agreement he'll
propose a price man

580
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:40,020
lay out a scope of work of what he'll do
for that price well I'll bring that to

581
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,140
the council and
present it to you and you'll make a

582
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:47,460
decision
so I guess what I'm saying this this

583
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:51,720
puts this engineering firm on tainer on
retainer so to speak that are available

584
00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:54,900
to be used for these purposes and
they're sort of locked in to help us

585
00:48:53,160 --> 00:49:01,640
when the need arises correct they're
making a commitment to be our basically

586
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:01,640
our consultant for the next five years

587
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:09,960
any further questions councilman from
and this is a whole new agreement it's

588
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:13,440
not a Contin not an amendment right no
this is an all-new agreement

589
00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:16,740
starting fresh
because I didn't like all them other

590
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,880
ones anyway
can we keep track of

591
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:33,599
I have a motion from councilman
Patterson uh to approve this landfill

592
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:38,579
Consulting engineer five-year agreement
do I have a second

593
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:44,220
second from councilman deal any further
discussion dilemma

594
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:48,540
hearing none all those in in favor of
approving the landfill Consulting

595
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:53,400
engineer five-year agreement with
ingber Miller engineers

596
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:59,520
signified by saying aye
aye and you pose signify by saying nay

597
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:03,440
that landfill Consulting engineer
five-year agreement is passed

598
00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:12,300
next item on the agenda is number seven
the 2023 golf fees

599
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:15,200
Mr Dent is here to answer questions
regarding that

600
00:50:18,839 --> 00:50:25,579
yeah you'd be mayor and Council evening
this is uh

601
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:35,280
this was actually something that should
have been on the

602
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,540
rake sheet and the fees earlier this
year when we approved those it got left

603
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,740
off and it's essentially a punch card
that allows maybe an individual that

604
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:49,079
doesn't get to play very often or
otherwise maybe wouldn't Buy

605
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:52,920
the individual single pass at a lesser
fee

606
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:57,000
so they're actually getting
12

607
00:50:54,359 --> 00:51:02,900
18 hole rounds for the price of 10 and
there's

608
00:50:58,260 --> 00:51:02,900
24 pheasants on it 310 dollars

609
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:11,099
so there's 12 pheasants on there which
represent nine holes each so if they

610
00:51:07,859 --> 00:51:14,520
play in 18 holes we punch it twice so if
councilman victim wanted to play nine

611
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,520
holes on that card he'd just punch it
once

612
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:22,500
it's just an opportunity for somebody
who maybe can't even afford

613
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:25,920
the pass or does it get the opportunity
to play or might not otherwise buy the

614
00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:30,240
pass itself so it's just something we
left off on the earlier rate sheet

615
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:36,720
and it's my understanding that these
2023 golf fees that are listed except

616
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:41,880
for the 18 hole punch card were approved
on November 15th of 2022 by Marion

617
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:46,200
Council that's correct so the only thing
you're asking the Marion Council to do

618
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,460
this evening is approve the 18-hole
punch card that is correct

619
00:51:53,460 --> 00:52:01,740
and question I have I mean how you've
had these before correct

620
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,700
how how many get sold
we're still about 15 of them and uh

621
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:10,200
probably
out of that 15 only one of them used all

622
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:14,400
their punches
so oftentimes they're paying the full

623
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:18,180
price but don't take advantage of all
the opportunities exactly and they know

624
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:24,619
that going into it
and it's yearly good for one year one

625
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,619
year January 1st of December 31st

626
00:52:24,780 --> 00:52:36,140
so if a guy buys one in April it's the
same thing runs out yep December 31st

627
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,140
any further questions for Mr Dan

628
00:52:36,359 --> 00:52:44,460
Mr Mayor makes a motion to approve the
addition to the the 18 hole punch card

629
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:51,540
to the golf news I have a motion to
approve for the 2023 golf fees

630
00:52:48,660 --> 00:52:56,040
of the punch card 18 hole punch card fee
at the price of 310 dollars each do I

631
00:52:54,900 --> 00:53:01,140
have a second
that's from councilman deal the website

632
00:52:59,099 --> 00:53:08,240
second from councilman Peterson or
councilman Patterson

633
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:08,240
yeah any further discussion gentlemen

634
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:17,400
all right hearing no further discussion
all those in favor of approving that

635
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:23,220
18-hole punch card at 310 dollars per
card signified by saying aye

636
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:29,160
aye any post signify by saying nay
that

637
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:34,640
18 hole punch card at 310 dollars per
card is approved thank you mayor council

638
00:53:31,859 --> 00:53:34,640
thank you Mr Dan

639
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:45,599
next item on the agenda agenda is item
eight a special event permit

640
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:52,380
uh
Leanne Madison Braden

641
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:58,200
and I'm not sure is it Connor or conour
okay uh with Goshen Economic Development

642
00:53:56,339 --> 00:54:02,760
are requesting a special event permit
for the summer concept series to be held

643
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:12,800
in the city parking lot behind Vandal
drug on May 31 June 7 June 14 June 21

644
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:20,700
June 28 2023 set up to begin at 3 pm
event to run 6 30 pm to 9 00 PM Chief

645
00:54:18,059 --> 00:54:24,780
Johnson can you speak to this
certainly the folks from Economic

646
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Development we had a number of
conversations about this event and

647
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:32,400
looked at different options ultimately
they submitted the permit for the city

648
00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:37,020
lot 5 location
from the city perspective we look at

649
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:40,260
that from the standpoint of if we can
manage the safety of pedestrians inside

650
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:46,500
of that event
which we can at that location

651
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:50,400
if the pending liquor permits or
catering permits would be issued and we

652
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:55,980
appropriately manage the liquor
consumption and make sure that the

653
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,880
liquor is contained at that location and
we can manage that at that location and

654
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:04,859
then making sure that the noise can be
managed at a reasonable level

655
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:09,960
so those are the three check boxes that
we looked at at that location

656
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,680
I met with the team at Economic
Development and put together the

657
00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:17,880
agreement that I included with the
permit and I can let them speak to

658
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:22,460
anything else or answer any other
questions that you folks might have

659
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,460
related

660
00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:32,599
council do you have any questions for
chief Johnson

661
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:43,319
yeah we've I mean the event morphed a
little bit last year from the standpoint

662
00:55:41,579 --> 00:55:47,760
of where we initially looked at stage
positioning and then moving that Trying

663
00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:51,780
to minimize noise impacts and make sure
that we're staying reasonable with that

664
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:56,240
impact on other businesses particularly
the theater that's there we're going to

665
00:55:54,300 --> 00:56:00,900
do a little bit of a change this year
based on their recommendation for stage

666
00:55:58,740 --> 00:56:05,099
positioning where we're going to try to
twist that stage just a little bit so

667
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:10,619
worse
still Facing East to minimize noise

668
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:14,280
projection towards the theater the other
changes from last year last year we

669
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:17,339
looked at closing the parking lot down
fairly early

670
00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:21,839
I can't I think it's two or three
o'clock in the afternoon which was

671
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:25,859
difficult I mean when you're running a
special event you want it to be safe but

672
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:30,660
you also want to minimize impact and so
closing that parking lot at that early

673
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:34,800
stage of the day was uncomfortable and
made it more challenging so this year

674
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:39,180
we're really kind of sticking to just
looking at six parking spaces they've

675
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,359
figured out after setting up and taking
down the stage a number of times but

676
00:56:41,099 --> 00:56:46,500
they really can get everything they need
done in those six parking spaces which

677
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:52,260
seems more reasonable to me so that's
kind of what the amendment was for this

678
00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:58,619
and the start time is a half hour later
this year than last year yeah that was

679
00:56:54,900 --> 00:57:02,760
The Proposal we for those of you who
attended last year the attendance was

680
00:57:00,839 --> 00:57:07,740
pretty sparse from six to seven because
the sun is baking right down onto that

681
00:57:05,099 --> 00:57:10,920
parking lot and if people were there
they tended to be hiding behind the

682
00:57:09,059 --> 00:57:15,660
restrooms where they got a little bit of
shade and so from the standpoint of

683
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:21,599
minimizing road closure minimizing
impact in the parking lot and utilizing

684
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:24,839
a better shade platform if you will
pushing it to 6 30 and then closing it

685
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,880
up at nine
seems to be the most reasonable

686
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:28,880
alternative

687
00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:36,180
and is a little bit different this year
I understand East a will remain open

688
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:41,280
traffic on East day thank you I should
have mentioned that

689
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,220
um so again the conversations and
proposals from Economic Development

690
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:49,200
um
the business landscape has changed a

691
00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:54,119
little bit from last year last year
moose Mercantile was open throughout

692
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:59,700
each concert and they had merchandise
for sale right there on East 21st and so

693
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,819
it really couldn't utilize that space to
park

694
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:08,579
other vendors or have any other traffic
coming in and out and so that was why

695
00:58:05,339 --> 00:58:14,400
east east a was closed from 21st to the
theater entrance for parking and since

696
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:19,440
moose Mercantile is no longer present we
can move that traffic need up to East

697
00:58:16,859 --> 00:58:22,559
21st and there's really not not a reason
to keep

698
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,920
we stay closed
it can I mean there's a crosswalk right

699
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:31,079
there
on the 20th and you stay we can protect

700
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:36,540
pedestrian safety nicely to the north
with the closure of East 21st and that

701
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:39,540
closure will not impact the vandals
alley

702
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:43,740
nor will it impact the alley behind the
theater in the Elks for emergency

703
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:51,000
response purposes
so the East 21st will only be closed

704
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:56,040
between East day and the alley
we'll have a barricade anytime we have a

705
00:58:53,520 --> 00:59:01,319
kind of a dead end closure effect
we'll put a barricade out at Maine and

706
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:05,040
East 21st the people can still get
around but we want to let them know

707
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:09,240
before they pull in there that there's a
closure so we don't have any U-turn

708
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:13,859
mishaps if you will so somebody could
come from Maine if they want to use the

709
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,099
post office to drop off mail they could
still do that yep they could still get

710
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:20,640
through there and still get to the
vandals alley or any of the other places

711
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:23,700
that they needed to go but we would
leave that barricade just to give folks

712
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:27,000
a heads up that they're coming into a
dead end

713
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:32,220
and and I want to reiterate Chief
because I agree with you the city's

714
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:36,480
primary interest is three things
can this be done safely

715
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:41,880
and you've indicated that in your
opinion it can and it was last year can

716
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:46,799
the alcohol be contained it was last
year and you've indicated that it can

717
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:51,900
begin again this year and the noise is
not violative of our noise ordinance so

718
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,160
those are the three primary things the
city government is concerned about yes

719
00:59:54,059 --> 01:00:00,960
sir and all those are squared away in
your mind

720
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:05,760
I mean certainly the reasonableness of
noise is always open to discussion the

721
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:10,619
way that we've tried to look at that is
what would we consider to be

722
01:00:07,619 --> 01:00:16,260
unreasonable from from any other
perspective and so the the agreement

723
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:20,339
that we've looked at is the 80
I mean you can never have just a hard

724
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:25,799
cut off of a certain number of decibels
because it fluctuates in that range

725
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:31,920
but that would be the equivalent of a
semi truck parked in an alley I mean

726
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:36,720
that's 80 to 85 decibels is a semi truck
that would be parked in an alley and I

727
01:00:33,540 --> 01:00:39,720
wouldn't come to uh I mean if if a
business owner made a complaint to me or

728
01:00:38,579 --> 01:00:43,440
a
regular residents made a complaint to me

729
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:48,540
saying that there's a semi truck that's
idling and it's unreasonable in that

730
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:51,960
time frame we wouldn't look at that as a
violation of ordinance or statute at

731
01:00:51,059 --> 01:00:57,480
that level
so I I mean that again that's a that's

732
01:00:55,260 --> 01:01:02,220
not an easy thing to look at with a hard
answer but from a reasonable

733
01:01:00,020 --> 01:01:05,579
reasonableness standpoint
I felt like that was a pretty reasonable

734
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:12,059
way to look at it
and I noticed last year the event

735
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:19,220
I'll use the word catered to all ages
and interests so to speak you had when I

736
01:01:16,619 --> 01:01:24,500
was there you had events for the kids
you had the music alcohol could be

737
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:30,000
purchased by those legally able to do it
so you're the broad spectrum from

738
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:35,640
children to people who want to sit and
have a drink and listen to music that

739
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:40,319
might be a better question for Leanne or
Braden but my understanding of their

740
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:47,040
proposal is that that would continue to
be I mean the goal that was presented to

741
01:01:44,819 --> 01:01:51,900
me as part of this permit was to have
very much of a family outing on a

742
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:56,160
Wednesday night in Torrington
sure

743
01:01:53,160 --> 01:02:02,160
before I ask for comment from the public
speaking in favor and against

744
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:09,540
any further questions from the council
for chief Johnson I have a question Mr

745
01:02:05,099 --> 01:02:14,220
Mayor on the decibels sir last year okay
what was I noticed you where I was a

746
01:02:12,359 --> 01:02:19,200
spectator in the event I noticed you
were taking some sort of reading

747
01:02:16,619 --> 01:02:23,940
so I wondered kind of recalling what
last year's event was like what was so

748
01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:28,380
we were
we stayed right in that 80 decibel range

749
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:32,940
there were a couple of we had met with
the folks who managed the theater ahead

750
01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:38,400
of time and evaluated that and looked at
what essentially the reduction of noise

751
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:42,660
was going to the theater and again
looking for that reasonableness standard

752
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:46,339
so we a couple of times it was over and
we had to turn it down 40 to 45 range

753
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,880
inside
which at that level it was

754
01:02:49,319 --> 01:02:55,380
I mean it would have to be very very
quiet in the movie to have that be an

755
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:58,500
impact so that was the reason that we
went with that and I tried to stay on

756
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:02,299
top of that as much as I possibly could
and you'll notice in the

757
01:03:03,059 --> 01:03:10,559
rating or in the agreement there
essentially we're laying out how that's

758
01:03:08,099 --> 01:03:14,299
going to be monitored is that needs to
happen at the beginning of the concert

759
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:19,460
at the beginning of every band Midway
and then if there's ever a complaint and

760
01:03:16,619 --> 01:03:19,460
we need to address that

761
01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:25,099
then the other question would be the um

762
01:03:25,319 --> 01:03:30,559
the closure of certain parking spaces
yes sir

763
01:03:31,799 --> 01:03:40,260
was it just the spaces that would be
closed for the stage

764
01:03:36,619 --> 01:03:45,140
uh prior to the event or is it those I
don't know if you have this

765
01:03:41,819 --> 01:03:45,140
shaded in yellow

766
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:57,780
so is this the one you're looking at yes
so this actually doesn't really depict

767
01:03:55,619 --> 01:04:01,500
this the parking spaces that would be
closed

768
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:06,900
um this shaded yellow area is how the
event would be laid out at the time and

769
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:11,940
again this is from Leanna Braden so
these little bit of fun misspeaking in

770
01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:15,540
any way shape with them the six parking
spaces that would be impacted are those

771
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:20,160
there where the blue boxes that says
band because that's the space that they

772
01:04:17,940 --> 01:04:25,500
would need in order to get in and get
the stage set up this the stage again

773
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:30,119
for my communication with them is kind
of a limiting factor related to this

774
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:37,220
event because it takes and
extremely long time to set up and so we

775
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:42,180
really are trying to limit that impact
and give them the freedom they need to

776
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:46,680
set up without completely messing up
those parking the parking lot for every

777
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:50,880
other business downtown
so

778
01:04:48,359 --> 01:04:55,859
my question more or less is those other
than for the stage no parking spaces

779
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,619
have been reserved asked to be closed
that would be all they would be

780
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,960
permitted to close would be those six
spaces right there where that blue box

781
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:05,339
is
for band the rest of the parking lot

782
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,480
will close at 5 30
um when the event was being set up

783
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:14,220
so
is there a

784
01:05:10,859 --> 01:05:19,380
you know if somebody has parked there
after the closure is there a contingency

785
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:23,040
well last year we had a couple of those
that we had to do a little bit of

786
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:26,940
scrambling to go figure out who owned
the car and ask them to help out we

787
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:31,799
didn't have any problems with it I mean
everybody

788
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:34,859
the folks from Economic Development have
in their plan to come in ahead of time

789
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:39,480
with flyers and make sure that
everybody's aware and they'll be doing

790
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:45,180
poster boards I believe in the entrance
if that does happen we'll go contact and

791
01:05:42,359 --> 01:05:49,980
work with those folks I don't see that
being a towing situation because I think

792
01:05:47,339 --> 01:05:53,220
would be thin for that being a toe but
worse case scenario we might have to

793
01:05:51,359 --> 01:05:57,059
take the car off and then
utilize some officers to help get it out

794
01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:59,960
of there later when they uh when the
person returned to the car

795
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:07,200
and
how many officers would be required to

796
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,140
be present from you know beginning to
end I'm I'm willing to pitch in and help

797
01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:12,299
out
um

798
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:16,319
each night the nice thing about this
location is that because the boundaries

799
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:20,940
are really easy to monitor
um we're going to set up essentially a

800
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:24,900
diagonal entrance with Staffing at those
entrances the Staffing will consist and

801
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:30,359
this was part of the agreement with
economic development and so we'll have

802
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:36,900
an entrance on the northwest and the
southeast that are staffed and signed

803
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:40,500
for no outside alcohol dogs but you know
whatever else they decide to do for

804
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:45,059
inside of their event but a person
standing at that location can actually

805
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:49,079
see diagonally down two sides of the
event to monitor for alcohol potentially

806
01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:52,619
leaving the event and make sure that
people aren't sneaking in and out and

807
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:57,240
then the person at the other
Corner can see down the other two sides

808
01:06:55,020 --> 01:07:02,160
so if we have at least one officer
inside monitoring it it's it's really

809
01:06:59,819 --> 01:07:05,880
not an issue I mean we had very little
problems last year and then we rotate

810
01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:10,799
our Patrol guys we did our best to have
two in there at all the all times

811
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,520
um but we're just rotating Patrol guys
in and out

812
01:07:12,359 --> 01:07:18,299
making sure that that's covered and it
really didn't impact our staffing and I

813
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:22,819
was I'm happy to kind of help out with
it so myself for Pat will be glad to

814
01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:22,819
assist

815
01:07:23,099 --> 01:07:27,960
I got a few questions but I don't know
who they're too

816
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:32,880
Mr Mayor I wonder if it would be
pertinent to have

817
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:36,960
the event well folks come up yes at this
point thank you

818
01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:40,319
I think we're done with Chief Johnson at
least momentarily

819
01:07:38,819 --> 01:07:43,700
um is is
it's Mattis

820
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,160
mayor and Council thank you so

821
01:07:49,859 --> 01:07:55,700
much yeah I can answer any questions you
may have but um

822
01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:02,160
a couple things that weren't covered yet
we do plan on paying that event permit

823
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:06,660
fee
um to the city council as well

824
01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:11,400
um
and we're starting the process now it's

825
01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:16,980
kind of early on but uh we really need
to get the fundraising aspect kicked off

826
01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:21,839
and and get that effort going as well so
that's kind of why we're in the process

827
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:26,279
now
um last year this event was huge it was

828
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:33,480
super successful
um we saw growth at each event

829
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:39,380
throughout and yeah just wanted to make
a few tweaks to it we are holding it in

830
01:08:36,839 --> 01:08:43,500
consecutive weeks this year rather than
every other week

831
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,640
um
we feel that

832
01:08:47,339 --> 01:08:51,900
um
it's just really beneficial for the

833
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,960
community to gather
um

834
01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:02,640
part of the Main Street program is
making sure we have a place for our

835
01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:07,799
community to gather and that's where
this event stemmed from

836
01:09:05,219 --> 01:09:15,299
we also conducted a survey recently and
we had over 90 respondents and found

837
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:23,460
that one of the main points was that
approximately 75 percent of the

838
01:09:19,140 --> 01:09:26,279
respondents liked the location of the
event

839
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,839
um
and yeah with that

840
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:37,580
stand for any questions
are the food vendors going to be allowed

841
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,580
to open before the 6 30 time

842
01:09:37,859 --> 01:09:45,480
um I that hasn't been discussed just yet
but last year we kind of had them open

843
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:49,199
as the event got started so I don't
foresee them

844
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:53,520
opening prior to the event I'm just
thinking Some people might want to eat

845
01:09:50,339 --> 01:09:57,719
down there a little earlier than that
maybe something to think about yeah

846
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:01,080
and then the food vendors that you do
have

847
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:06,860
I imagine they're going to have to fill
out a catering permit for the city

848
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,860
correct correct yes

849
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:19,140
you mentioned a Main Street program yeah
tell me a little bit about that

850
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:25,440
absolutely so uh I am the community
development director with economic

851
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:31,920
development and part of my job is we are
a certified Main Street Community

852
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:36,900
and it's a National Organization
um and I am

853
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:40,679
new to the program
um I'm I've been

854
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,980
at economic development for about eight
months now

855
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:49,440
um actually headed to Boston to learn a
lot more about the Main Street program

856
01:10:46,020 --> 01:10:55,440
but it really is centered around
having a space for our communities

857
01:10:53,040 --> 01:11:00,360
together to
um

858
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:02,480
help with economic development and and
um

859
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:07,460
you know one of our

860
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:15,739
main
um ideas is to provide events that are

861
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:15,739
centered around Community involvement

862
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:21,860
Community involvement in a downtown area
in a downtown area yes

863
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:27,239
that that was my sort of what I was
going to ask as well that your

864
01:11:25,860 --> 01:11:31,800
participation in this Main Street
program

865
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:36,260
requires you to have events in in the
downtown area is that

866
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:42,179
I wouldn't say a requirement the
question would be have you looked at

867
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:47,280
other areas to happen absolutely have
absolutely yeah um

868
01:11:44,699 --> 01:11:51,920
we have actually looked at holding this
event on Main Street

869
01:11:49,500 --> 01:11:59,659
um rather than the parking lot
the main issue

870
01:11:54,360 --> 01:12:08,159
with that was the timing it takes
Crossroads music three hours to set up

871
01:12:03,179 --> 01:12:12,480
this stage and get the sound set
and we cannot close Main Street down

872
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:17,400
until five o'clock that puts our event
time start at eight o'clock

873
01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:21,320
so
um

874
01:12:17,940 --> 01:12:21,320
you know we've considered

875
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:29,820
I shouldn't say that we
we've heard that people would like to

876
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:37,940
have this in a park
but that's not that's not the whole

877
01:12:34,679 --> 01:12:37,940
idea behind the program

878
01:12:37,980 --> 01:12:45,440
it's to bring people
downtown

879
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,440
to have a vibrant downtown community

880
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:53,100
have you heard any comments about
increased foot traffic as a result of

881
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:55,280
this or business there's one Main Street
um

882
01:12:56,340 --> 01:13:03,960
you know I
with these events bringing

883
01:13:01,140 --> 01:13:08,699
two to three hundred people downtown
you know they're gonna see

884
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:14,159
storefronts you know whether they're
open or not

885
01:13:10,739 --> 01:13:20,159
um that could bring residual
business maybe not that particular day

886
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:23,100
but somebody walking downtown may see
something that they want to head back

887
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:28,580
for later
um Jackie Van Mark did mention that it

888
01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:33,679
brought business to her
store downtown

889
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:33,679
so addicting

890
01:13:34,199 --> 01:13:40,500
well I was going to say since the
parking lot is closed during the event

891
01:13:37,739 --> 01:13:47,280
the place to park is going to be on Main
Street right exactly yeah yeah exactly

892
01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:51,540
so yep people are going to see their
storefronts and we have an amazing Main

893
01:13:50,699 --> 01:13:55,860
Street
and getting eyes

894
01:13:53,699 --> 01:13:59,699
on those businesses is
a priority

895
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:03,239
but if it was on Main Street because
businesses wouldn't necessarily have to

896
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:08,760
close
correct correct

897
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:13,620
um the main issue with having it on Main
Street is the timing

898
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,500
I mean I don't really familiar with it
what they do in Deadwood every year but

899
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:20,159
they just close off the whole Main
Street a block of Main Street but all

900
01:14:18,659 --> 01:14:24,120
the vendors or they're all stores still
stay open right yeah but that's a two

901
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:27,000
and three day event
so they close it off for two or three

902
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:29,420
days okay
yeah

903
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:39,120
my my question my next question would be
what is there a plan if the if the

904
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:42,300
concept is to encourage a Vibrant
Community in the downtown business

905
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:48,179
district yeah
what is the plan to encourage business

906
01:14:44,699 --> 01:14:51,480
and commerce yes to go along with the
event fantastic question

907
01:14:50,219 --> 01:14:54,480
um you know we're we're in the process
right now of all the planning and of

908
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:59,699
course we have to find out whether or
not we can hold the event

909
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:06,420
um but the plan is to go down and visit
with all of our Main Street businesses

910
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:10,020
to to see what we can do
to

911
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:15,320
make that happen
you know I've I've had a few ideas here

912
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:15,320
and there um

913
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:23,640
for example maybe we hold a scavenger
hunt where people have to in the

914
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:29,699
incentive is to go into businesses prior
to the concert you know you spend

915
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:34,320
a certain amount of money at three
different businesses downtown bring us

916
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:39,239
your receipts we'll put you in a drawing
and we'll do some sort of giveaway

917
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:42,659
just an idea off the top of my head but
um

918
01:15:40,739 --> 01:15:46,440
I really want to get downtown and visit
with our our Main Street businesses to

919
01:15:44,580 --> 01:15:50,940
see what that looks like for them and
you know if they have

920
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:54,020
ideas for that as well and absolutely
we'll Implement those

921
01:15:56,340 --> 01:16:02,159
I know last year about this
the Third

922
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:06,420
or fourth
time they edited in the parking lot

923
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:10,679
there somebody brought in some tables
and picnic tables yes we're gonna do it

924
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:14,159
is there any thought to that again yeah
absolutely

925
01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:18,659
um that was Western Province
um out of Yoder they actually brought

926
01:16:15,719 --> 01:16:24,120
those from Yoder to set up
donated them to the event which was

927
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:27,020
fantastic and I do believe they are
planning on doing that again

928
01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:38,820
talk to me a little bit more about the
vendors

929
01:16:35,219 --> 01:16:45,360
the food and beverage vendors
do you have those lined up

930
01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:52,500
we do not as we just aren't certain
whether

931
01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:52,500
go forward which I'm hoping we do we

932
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:58,940
our beverage vendors are local
businesses

933
01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:04,860
um last year we had the Bronco bar
cater one

934
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:12,179
um
open Barrel Brewery

935
01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:16,040
we had the mint and 307 Bar and Grill
and am I forgetting

936
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:23,780
um so local businesses
held those

937
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:29,520
permits
got they each got a chance at one of the

938
01:17:26,580 --> 01:17:32,480
one of the evenings yeah
and then

939
01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:40,320
food
um

940
01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:45,600
307 and the Bronco also came to
other events to sell food and we also

941
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:50,060
had a couple food trucks available as
well

942
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,060
which were a huge draw

943
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:59,280
food trucks
are there food trucks local food trucks

944
01:17:57,179 --> 01:18:03,600
we don't unfortunately we don't have any
local food trucks

945
01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:06,320
um if anybody wants to open a food truck
let's do it

946
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:24,060
so I guess Mr Mayor from my standpoint a
few things in your in your application

947
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:27,120
have have I'm I'm relieved to see
the

948
01:18:24,739 --> 01:18:31,860
closure of the parking lot earlier last
year of course I wasn't on this Council

949
01:18:28,620 --> 01:18:36,600
then but the closure earlier in the day
in my opinion impeded business during

950
01:18:34,260 --> 01:18:40,620
that time especially those folks that
needed access to that parking lot so I'm

951
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:46,159
I'm grateful to see that the closure of
the parking lot this time or proposal

952
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:46,159
later

953
01:18:46,380 --> 01:18:51,440
um
my concern this time around

954
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:58,020
or or not necessarily concerned but a
wish of mine

955
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:02,960
is going back to what you said earlier
about

956
01:18:58,980 --> 01:19:02,960
creating this vibrant downtown community

957
01:19:03,239 --> 01:19:12,140
and I I want to see and or my wish I
should say that there is more

958
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:18,480
involvement with our Merchants downtown
to the benefit from this concert if we

959
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:21,900
can't have it on Main Street
and I don't I don't know the temperature

960
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:26,520
of the merchants downtown whether they
would be in favor of that or not

961
01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:29,880
but if if the Showcase can't be directly
on Main Street

962
01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:34,500
somehow I would like to see those
Merchants be able to come off half a

963
01:19:32,820 --> 01:19:40,080
block
to Showcase themselves if that is the if

964
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:43,800
that's the goal yeah absolutely and that
is

965
01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:48,540
open to anybody that is open to any
business

966
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:53,179
in our downtown area
and and finally my my final concern

967
01:19:54,480 --> 01:20:01,140
I've talked with a business that is
directly affected by the event

968
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:04,860
um
they're closed the first two days of the

969
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:08,640
week
has there been given any thought to

970
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:13,080
having this event on one of those days
yeah we we have we've considered every

971
01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:17,580
option so
are contracted with Crossroads music out

972
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:23,300
of Scott's Bluff
they are the ones that also do this

973
01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:28,440
concert series with Scott's Bluff
bands on Broadway I believe is what it's

974
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:32,040
called there's also one in Alliance
so the one in Scott's Bluff is held

975
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:36,420
every
Thursday

976
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:40,620
Alliance is Friday our options were
either Wednesday or Saturday

977
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:45,420
um
we felt you know in visiting with some

978
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:49,679
of our businesses downtown that
Wednesday night is kind of a slower

979
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:57,140
night for them
and they were wanting us to do something

980
01:20:52,980 --> 01:20:57,140
to pick business up on that night

981
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:04,679
so that's that is the main reason we
chose Wednesday nights

982
01:21:02,940 --> 01:21:09,540
I know it's hard to have it on Main
Street Bronco bar has a band every year

983
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:14,640
that they close the street off for
right and that I believe is goes into

984
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:19,500
later in the evening and chief might be
able to speak to that I don't have all

985
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:23,699
the details on that but that is a later
closure and and frankly I'm probably the

986
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:27,300
stick in the mud when it comes to
closing Main Street because of the

987
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:33,540
impact I mean when we used to do third
Thursday trying to close down at 3 30 4

988
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:39,300
o'clock in the afternoon I mean from a
safety perspective it's really not ideal

989
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:44,699
and from an impact to businesses it's
also really not ideal so when we had a

990
01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:48,780
discussion about the potential for
having this event on Main Street that

991
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:52,980
was the limiting factor was because of
the length of time it takes to set up

992
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:58,860
the band I'm just not I mean
particularly we were talking the

993
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:03,659
north of 21st and Main encompassing the
post office block which would be a

994
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:07,739
pretty low impact but if we had to close
at four o'clock the post office doesn't

995
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:13,260
close until 4 30 and we really would
have a pretty disparate impact on folks

996
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:19,340
that are trying to live their daily
lives and it really is not a good safety

997
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:24,840
setup to have a full parking
diagonal structure or excuse me full

998
01:22:21,659 --> 01:22:29,040
full parking diagonal spots up the block
and then try to empty that at 3 30 4

999
01:22:27,719 --> 01:22:35,360
o'clock in the afternoon while you're in
the middle of setting up an event it's

1000
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:35,360
just it's not a not a good safety move

1001
01:22:36,060 --> 01:22:43,440
and was there a particular reason why we
chose this parking lot instead of the

1002
01:22:39,780 --> 01:22:51,960
one like say over buying behind Arby's
as as I understand this slot was

1003
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:56,719
made to be a City events based when
those restrooms were

1004
01:22:53,940 --> 01:22:56,719
constructed

1005
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:14,340
and also to speak to the closure of Main
Street another point there you know this

1006
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:19,140
is a family friendly event
um it's not a

1007
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:23,900
Friday night stay out all night event so
you know we want to bring in activities

1008
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:28,440
for kids
we got a lot of really good feedback in

1009
01:23:26,699 --> 01:23:34,320
our survey that people want to see more
of that something more for the kids so

1010
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:38,940
we're gonna Implement that as well
that's a good point you're going to try

1011
01:23:36,659 --> 01:23:41,940
to serve the whole Spectrum absolutely
absolutely

1012
01:23:45,179 --> 01:23:51,179
and I think that was I wasn't obviously
on mayor I was not mayor back in the day

1013
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,320
when you did the four o'clock closing
but I think that was a hard lesson

1014
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:59,040
learned yeah that is not appropriate to
try to shut your downtown area at four

1015
01:23:57,659 --> 01:24:03,719
there's a lot of business that goes on
between four and five

1016
01:24:01,380 --> 01:24:07,860
this doesn't work to shut things down at
four in the afternoon

1017
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:12,540
I think that's a lesson that we've
Never Say Never but we've learned that

1018
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:17,760
that's not so good and I mean if we push
the concert start until if we closed at

1019
01:24:15,420 --> 01:24:20,940
five and took three hours to set up
and then we tried to run a three-hour

1020
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:25,380
concert on a weeknight we're going to
have all these complaints coming out our

1021
01:24:22,380 --> 01:24:29,400
ears for going to 11 11 p.m on a
Wednesday night I just

1022
01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:32,000
can tell that story from a reasonable
standpoint

1023
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:42,120
Miss Mattis is up here representing the
organization that's asking for the

1024
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:46,560
special event permit thank you do
council do you have any further

1025
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:50,699
questions for Miss Mattis
thank you Miss Mattis thank you

1026
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,340
appreciate it
um

1027
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:58,980
I see there's a lot of people here this
evening so I would ask first of all

1028
01:24:56,159 --> 01:25:03,960
anybody in addition to miss Mattis that
wants to speak in favor of council

1029
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:07,820
granting this specially about permit is
welcome to approach the podium

1030
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:14,719
yeah
no I have one

1031
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:25,340
thank you my name is Todd Werner last
year I was the emcee for the music on

1032
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:30,840
Main
I'm just a volunteer helper

1033
01:25:28,620 --> 01:25:34,440
that thought this was a great
thing to do for the community

1034
01:25:33,719 --> 01:25:38,820
um
did we learn a few things that we could

1035
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:43,380
improve on I believe we did
and we are you know we're working to

1036
01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:48,540
make it better for the the community the
some of the local businesses

1037
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:51,900
um you know we we are still this is only
our this will be our second year

1038
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:57,060
hopefully
um you know and I think Chief Johnson

1039
01:25:55,260 --> 01:26:03,179
has done a wonderful job making sure
that everything has been set up properly

1040
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:09,120
um I was in charge of uh going out and
and getting some of the um

1041
01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:12,420
all right well actually I went I went to
the bars I worked for Budweiser out of

1042
01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:17,520
Cheyenne
and um you know and I think that if you

1043
01:26:15,719 --> 01:26:21,420
could visit with each one of the bars
that did the event

1044
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:26,280
I think that you will find that that
they did um well I mean it's none of my

1045
01:26:23,460 --> 01:26:30,659
business to know exactly how they did
um but I think they did well and and I

1046
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:34,320
think that if any of you attended the
concerts

1047
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:38,580
um you know I think that it was it was a
very successful thing

1048
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:43,679
and you know as far as moving forward
and being able to get more of these

1049
01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:49,440
businesses that could possibly be
involved we are all for that you know

1050
01:26:46,860 --> 01:26:54,540
it's um something that
obviously it's a community event I mean

1051
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:59,520
I we had people you know I think that
part of the the good thing that the

1052
01:26:57,239 --> 01:27:04,320
location that we had it in
is that people could walk you know we

1053
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:08,699
had a lot of people that that walked in
I mean I I was there I wasn't there as

1054
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:12,960
early as some of the folks were that set
up but I can tell you that

1055
01:27:10,739 --> 01:27:15,960
we were kind of nervous because at six
o'clock you know we didn't have a lot of

1056
01:27:14,219 --> 01:27:19,440
people there and there there weren't a
lot of vehicles around but then you know

1057
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:24,120
you could see people walking down the
streets side streets with their their

1058
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:27,960
lawn chairs and
you know and then yes the Western

1059
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,199
Province bringing in the benches I
thought was an awesome thing you know

1060
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:34,860
and and
um

1061
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,739
I think that if we could just continue
to

1062
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,880
um
have as many people as we did show up

1063
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:46,139
last year I I think that and I think
Chief I think you mentioned something

1064
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:51,179
300 plus people
you know and I think Chiefs probably

1065
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:56,159
pretty accurate you know coming from a
bigger city he probably knows numbers

1066
01:27:52,620 --> 01:28:03,360
just by kind of looking out over a crowd
I've been in this community for 52 years

1067
01:28:00,540 --> 01:28:07,320
and I will tell you that this was a very
successful thing I said you know Goshen

1068
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:10,739
County Fair is a very great thing for
this community

1069
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:15,420
what we did in that parking lot
it really was a great thing and I would

1070
01:28:13,380 --> 01:28:19,260
love to see it continue
you know and to talk to the with the

1071
01:28:17,460 --> 01:28:24,719
bands that we got the gentleman from
Scottsbluff does an amazing job for us

1072
01:28:21,719 --> 01:28:29,340
and he can do that for us
at a little cheaper price because then

1073
01:28:27,179 --> 01:28:33,659
he coordinates with you know like Leanne
said with

1074
01:28:30,420 --> 01:28:38,040
Scott's Bluff and with Alliance
and then we get a better deal and we

1075
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:44,340
still get great music
and and you know I we'd love to have

1076
01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:48,840
local vendors come in we are open to any
of that I can guarantee it

1077
01:28:46,620 --> 01:28:52,739
and I'm talking food vendors I'm talking
whoever

1078
01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:56,040
um so I mean that that's something that
you know and if we do get to move

1079
01:28:54,540 --> 01:29:00,840
forward with this
I I we can expand this and make it a

1080
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:04,199
better a bigger and a better event then
maybe someday we have to move it to a

1081
01:29:02,460 --> 01:29:08,340
better a bigger
venue and that would be you know great

1082
01:29:06,900 --> 01:29:12,420
I mean we do have some things in mind
and I won't get into those because I'm

1083
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:16,260
not technically on the committee
um or I am but not with the economic

1084
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:20,940
development you know I'm part of this
small community or committee but I just

1085
01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:24,480
want to say that you know I just think
that it's been a wonderful thing for the

1086
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:29,840
community and
I thank you for letting me speak

1087
01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:29,840
thank you sir

1088
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:45,380
would you just let us know your name for
the clerk absolutely

1089
01:29:45,420 --> 01:29:53,460
for the record great uh thanks parent
Council I'm Scott prusia just a local

1090
01:29:50,699 --> 01:29:59,040
business owner and past president of
Economic Development I know one of the

1091
01:29:56,820 --> 01:30:02,179
things that's been brought up is what
we're trying to do with the Main Street

1092
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:06,780
program through
Goshen Economic Development and what's

1093
01:30:04,679 --> 01:30:09,659
that what what is that doing for our
downtown businesses

1094
01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:16,139
um
since coveted pandemic we track as I'm

1095
01:30:13,739 --> 01:30:22,440
sure the city does as well what sales
tax receipts are doing and throughout

1096
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:27,199
the covid period Goshen County was one
of the highest performing if not the

1097
01:30:23,940 --> 01:30:33,260
highest performing state in
Wyoming as far as growth and sales tax

1098
01:30:30,060 --> 01:30:40,320
revenue I will say this year
we are on the edge of a recession but at

1099
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:45,120
the same time I look at our sales tax
receipts which the bulk of that comes

1100
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:50,460
from retail sales up and down main
streets in each of our communities sales

1101
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:54,780
tax is up over 15 percent this year over
last year

1102
01:30:51,659 --> 01:30:59,400
and not to say that you can put a finger
on exactly what's driving that I think

1103
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:03,659
there are several factors I think we
have great Merchants I think we have a

1104
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:09,360
good support system from Economic
Development and our Main Street program

1105
01:31:05,699 --> 01:31:14,880
as well as our residents and the 15
percent that we are up is leading the

1106
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:19,139
state as far as sales tax receipts those
sales tax receipts go to each community

1107
01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:23,880
and they go to the county those are
pretty sizable increases on a

1108
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:28,500
year-over-year basis and I think that's
something that again you can't put your

1109
01:31:26,639 --> 01:31:34,500
finger on exactly what's driving that
but we're doing something right here and

1110
01:31:31,380 --> 01:31:39,060
I think what has happened in trying to
drive Main Street and this is one of the

1111
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:43,820
events that helps to do it I think has
been very successful and a testament to

1112
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,820
what's being done

1113
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:48,320
thank you thank you Mr pressure

1114
01:31:50,639 --> 01:31:55,639
anybody else out there that wants to
speak for

1115
01:32:04,679 --> 01:32:09,719
hello mayor and Council would you please
state your name for the record

1116
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:14,340
sure sorry
my name is Tiffany Leslie I own the

1117
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,820
Bronco Bar and Grill house and I would
like to speak in favor for our community

1118
01:32:16,679 --> 01:32:23,280
night
for many years I have been asked why I

1119
01:32:20,940 --> 01:32:30,239
don't do a family night on Main Street
and one of the reasons is is

1120
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:35,280
I'm one person live versus trying to get
all the bands from different towns the

1121
01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:39,179
whole Community involved with Goshen
economic they actually took on that

1122
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:43,739
responsibility to give the community
something that me as business owner on

1123
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:48,600
Main Street can do
and I think that's really awesome that

1124
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:52,920
they do that and I have had so much
positive feedback just hearing it in our

1125
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:57,780
community since the first one that we
have had of how many families actually

1126
01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:02,400
enjoyed going out listening to a band
getting home early enough so that way

1127
01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:07,679
kids could go to bed everything else
like that I know a lot of the businesses

1128
01:33:05,219 --> 01:33:12,659
in my area on the Block have definitely
benefited from it obviously myself meant

1129
01:33:10,739 --> 01:33:17,159
open Barrel because we did some of those
catering for them and that's just extra

1130
01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:22,380
revenue for us during the summer time
when we are slow the foot traffic had

1131
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:25,980
picked up I know during the actual event
itself

1132
01:33:23,699 --> 01:33:29,820
so our my restaurant actually had a lot
of foot traffic come in it as well

1133
01:33:27,659 --> 01:33:34,620
during that time even with me catering
and the food truck so that helped us out

1134
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:39,659
tremendously on Wednesday nights when
we're pretty slow during that weekday

1135
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:42,960
so I just like to speak in favor of it I
think it's awesome that Goshen economic

1136
01:33:41,639 --> 01:33:47,100
has put this all together for our
community

1137
01:33:44,580 --> 01:33:52,800
when these events took place last year
out in front of your business

1138
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:57,900
was that just full yes parking was just
full on parking was full and you could

1139
01:33:55,500 --> 01:34:01,739
actually see the foot traffic I had
employees calling me hey is it really

1140
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,880
busy down there because we can see them
walking back and forth

1141
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:11,880
I don't know if you took a look in the
back parking lot behind your business

1142
01:34:09,060 --> 01:34:16,080
was that full yes a lot of people do
park in that Arby's parking lot and then

1143
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:19,159
walk over to the other parking lot as
well as on Main Street

1144
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:27,780
you said you had you said you had an
increase in foot traffic yes was that

1145
01:34:25,139 --> 01:34:32,880
from the from the
Main Street bands or the that was the

1146
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:37,080
same nights that the main street was
doing their bands yes because of all the

1147
01:34:34,739 --> 01:34:41,280
parking that is behind Arby's then they
continuously walk down towards Main

1148
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,880
Street towards that back parking lot by
Vandals

1149
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,560
thank you thank you Miss Leslie

1150
01:34:54,480 --> 01:35:01,760
all right anybody else out there who
wants to speak for granting of a special

1151
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:01,760
friend

1152
01:35:05,639 --> 01:35:13,880
seeing then I would open it up to
anybody who wants to speak against the

1153
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:13,880
granting of this special event

1154
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:33,360
Miss Flanagan I know we know you I know
just please stay here Marie Flanagan

1155
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:38,760
owner of the theater
um I wanted to just speak

1156
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:43,860
not in opposition of the event
I think the event is absolutely fabulous

1157
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:47,820
it's the location
um Chief Johnson

1158
01:35:45,179 --> 01:35:53,880
um was on a constant phone call with my
husband an electrician

1159
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:58,800
who knows exactly about decibels that is
part of his field

1160
01:35:56,219 --> 01:36:04,500
um we were
unfortunately

1161
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:09,840
impacted by the sound
he said he referenced a semi truck

1162
01:36:08,219 --> 01:36:13,800
that is not correct
we had Jurassic Park playing in as you

1163
01:36:11,940 --> 01:36:18,420
can all think
dinosaurs are not quiet

1164
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:23,540
and we have people leaving during the
movie because the sound from the concert

1165
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,540
was so loud

1166
01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:30,840
um and I am very thankful that the
Bronco bar had foot traffic I think

1167
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:34,980
that's fabulous when we try to do an
event we try to benefit all of our

1168
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:40,380
businesses because communication between
the businesses is absolutely vital

1169
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,440
um we have not been
um

1170
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:50,100
spoken to about the
events for this event anything that has

1171
01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:53,639
to do with the event has not been spoken
to me about

1172
01:36:51,239 --> 01:36:57,300
so learning that it's five consecutive
days

1173
01:36:54,420 --> 01:37:00,960
we will lose about five five hundred
dollars a day so that's twenty five

1174
01:36:58,500 --> 01:37:04,620
hundred dollars plus we will lose
um

1175
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:08,940
my staff will lose the time so that's
about five hundred dollars

1176
01:37:06,420 --> 01:37:12,300
on my staff losing
um their pay

1177
01:37:11,340 --> 01:37:18,300
um
yogalicious will also be impacted by the

1178
01:37:15,780 --> 01:37:23,580
loss of revenue from no one coming into
the theater last year graciously First

1179
01:37:20,820 --> 01:37:27,600
State Bank did sponsor tickets for
students or children to come into the

1180
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:33,060
theater and watch the movies
we had 10. from four events that

1181
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:38,000
happened we had 10 students 10 children
come in for the movie Jurassic Park

1182
01:37:38,699 --> 01:37:43,560
um
if that tells you anything the foot

1183
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:46,560
traffic was not coming to the theater at
all

1184
01:37:44,420 --> 01:37:50,219
we didn't have anything to go off of
because we've we had just purchased the

1185
01:37:48,659 --> 01:37:55,260
theater and we were just trying to get
going we we had nothing to go off up we

1186
01:37:52,800 --> 01:38:01,739
were not spoken to about planning doing
anything promoting nothing it was we are

1187
01:37:58,260 --> 01:38:05,159
doing this and we're doing this
um we don't know anything about a Main

1188
01:38:03,239 --> 01:38:09,920
Street group we've never been approached
we're a business this is what we do

1189
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:15,179
we are here for the community
as I've stated many many times and I

1190
01:38:13,380 --> 01:38:21,120
like I said I love the event and I'm
it's I've really was very saddened to

1191
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:24,679
hear that there are people
stating that the theater wants this

1192
01:38:22,679 --> 01:38:29,639
event to be shut down that is absolutely
100 percent not true

1193
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:34,380
I love events I love doing things for
the community that's why we did a ladies

1194
01:38:31,980 --> 01:38:37,620
night we have a kids night planned we
have a couple's night this Friday which

1195
01:38:35,699 --> 01:38:41,159
we'll talk about in a little bit
um

1196
01:38:38,820 --> 01:38:46,380
but we try really hard to do things for
the community itself

1197
01:38:43,020 --> 01:38:49,679
we try really hard to plan things with
other businesses

1198
01:38:47,639 --> 01:38:53,460
because I want to make sure I'm doing
what's best for not only the theater

1199
01:38:51,719 --> 01:38:58,139
because that's the first and foremost
but that I'm impacting the other

1200
01:38:55,380 --> 01:39:03,540
businesses if I can do something with an
event then I'm going to try with

1201
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:09,719
Jurassic Park we included Torrington
office supply we included um

1202
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:15,060
Heartland embroidery we included
um Wagner's floral they provided all of

1203
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:21,659
the floral arrangements inside to turn
it into a Jurassic Park Style

1204
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:26,400
um we had a scavenger hunt for eggs that
the kids got to keep and prizes were

1205
01:39:23,820 --> 01:39:30,659
given out from our Main Street
businesses I also wanted to include

1206
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:36,060
businesses that are not on Main Street
because that's important as well

1207
01:39:34,139 --> 01:39:41,100
um we were impacted obviously by the
foot traffic by the noise and

1208
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:46,260
unfortunately we had
some very unhappy patrons about the

1209
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:51,600
closing of the parking lots and they
used um some very

1210
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:56,420
heavily choiced words against me
um that they blamed me for doing it and

1211
01:39:56,639 --> 01:40:04,560
that's pretty tough when someone comes
in screaming at you so I would highly

1212
01:40:02,460 --> 01:40:08,040
encourage that yes do we need this event
yes

1213
01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:11,760
but this location is not a proper
location if it's going to shut down a

1214
01:40:10,199 --> 01:40:14,580
business that's already closed the day
before

1215
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:19,739
two days before
we have those availabilities

1216
01:40:16,860 --> 01:40:24,860
but if I have to shut down another day
which is going to have to happen because

1217
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,860
there's no

1218
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:31,139
there's no way we can avoid it
um

1219
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:35,880
then that just puts in to the community
that we're closed yet another day and

1220
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:39,300
when you start closing your business day
after day after day

1221
01:40:37,500 --> 01:40:43,080
they stop coming
and from my perspective

1222
01:40:41,699 --> 01:40:46,199
I don't want to see the theater close
that's why we bought it we wanted to

1223
01:40:44,699 --> 01:40:49,920
open it for the community
we have taken a huge hit we've not had

1224
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:53,580
any support
from

1225
01:40:51,780 --> 01:40:58,620
Economic Development besides the five
thousand dollar Grant

1226
01:40:55,380 --> 01:41:04,080
that was it I had to fight to get
advertising

1227
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:08,880
from the membership that I was given
so if there's anything I want this event

1228
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:13,580
to go through just not behind the
theater because it does hurt us

1229
01:41:10,739 --> 01:41:13,580
detrimentally

1230
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:22,739
thank you Mrs Flanagan
are there any others who want to speak

1231
01:41:20,820 --> 01:41:25,580
against the granting of the special
event for men

1232
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:38,580
my name is Taya Carrell my wife and I or
my wife Kelly and I own Heartland

1233
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:43,440
embroidery on Main Street a lot of my
questions and I'm believe me I'm not

1234
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:49,020
against it at all I am all for it I kind
of echo what Marie said if it is in the

1235
01:41:46,139 --> 01:41:54,179
best benefit for all businesses not
excluding some businesses it started out

1236
01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:58,739
on the Main Street we had some
discussions about that we got everything

1237
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:03,000
worked out to proceeded along fine then
they moved it behind

1238
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:07,920
a bunch of my questions were answered
Shane asked a couple of them

1239
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:12,179
why why not look at Monday and Tuesday
when the theater is closed why not look

1240
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:15,480
at a city park Chief Johnson even
brought it up a lot of people not being

1241
01:42:13,619 --> 01:42:20,040
there on the hot concrete when it's six
o'clock might not put it in the park or

1242
01:42:18,119 --> 01:42:24,360
you got shade go to Jordan Park you're
right next to the pool you got shade you

1243
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:27,239
got a playground you got the ball fields
you got basketball hoops you want to

1244
01:42:26,159 --> 01:42:31,739
talk about doing it for the community
there's all sorts of stuff there for the

1245
01:42:28,980 --> 01:42:34,199
kids to do if it's on the grassy area
um

1246
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:38,040
but like I said these are a lot of
things that a lot of questions were

1247
01:42:36,420 --> 01:42:42,239
answered tonight and Leanne did a very
good job answering a lot of them why we

1248
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:46,380
couldn't do this but at the same time
these were also questions that could

1249
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:51,239
have easily been solved by coming and
seeing us like Marie said we have not

1250
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:55,320
heard nothing from Economic Development
about their proposed plan of what

1251
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:59,219
they're doing on these five nights
tonight is the first night we were

1252
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:02,580
hanging or hearing about it we've got
three wonderful ladies that work for us

1253
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:05,820
at Heartland Kelly and I are barry
seldom there because they run the

1254
01:43:04,260 --> 01:43:09,719
day-to-day operations
we contacted them just to make sure that

1255
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:13,920
we are all on the same page and they
said the exact same thing nobody has

1256
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:18,780
stopped by and talked to us about it
if economic development is actually

1257
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:23,699
about local businesses and building this
community they need to be better in

1258
01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:27,840
contact we are literally right next door
to that

1259
01:43:25,139 --> 01:43:33,659
we're right next to 21st of May
stop by and tell us give us a plan but

1260
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:38,699
to show up here and ask you guys to vote
on it to vote for the permit

1261
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:43,500
if it passes tonight without any other
further discussion to us as a business

1262
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:47,580
owner it looks like you know what we've
already passed it this is what we're

1263
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:52,980
doing without any information or any
comment from other local businesses

1264
01:43:51,179 --> 01:43:56,219
it just doesn't seem right that they
would put the horse in front of the cart

1265
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:59,580
and I understand that Leanne said that
they were going to come around and try

1266
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:02,820
to drum up some support why wouldn't you
drum up some support before you show up

1267
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:07,679
and ask
for a permit to be voted on

1268
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:10,860
and I know this this has nothing to do
with you guys this is something that we

1269
01:44:09,480 --> 01:44:15,600
should be discussing with economic
development but since they don't come by

1270
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:20,179
it's kind of hard for us to discuss that
anyway thank you for your time thank you

1271
01:44:17,639 --> 01:44:20,179
Mr Crow

1272
01:44:21,659 --> 01:44:28,699
any others wishing to speak against this
special event permit

1273
01:44:35,219 --> 01:44:41,360
I don't see any takers I just want to
say this um

1274
01:44:41,940 --> 01:44:51,600
as the government
the City of Torrington are three primary

1275
01:44:47,460 --> 01:44:56,520
items of concern are safety
alcohol containment because alcohol is

1276
01:44:53,699 --> 01:45:01,520
going to be served in the noise
hey that's primarily my concern as mayor

1277
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:10,080
how Economic Development communicates
with the local businesses and how the

1278
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:15,659
local businesses communicate with
economic development that's not my

1279
01:45:13,020 --> 01:45:21,119
purview my job
one advantage I see to extending the

1280
01:45:18,900 --> 01:45:25,440
time for this and allowing anybody who
wanted to speak is this

1281
01:45:22,860 --> 01:45:28,980
Mr Krell I think you said it well
maybe there needs to be more

1282
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:32,460
communication I don't know I heard your
side of it I didn't hear anybody else's

1283
01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:37,080
side of it and I know there's always six
sides to any story

1284
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:42,780
but maybe this is a it was an
opportunity for the pros and the cons to

1285
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:47,960
get together in this forum
and sort of let everybody know where

1286
01:45:45,239 --> 01:45:52,739
they where they stand and why they stand
and maybe I'm or I'm hopeful that that

1287
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:57,179
maybe that communication with the pro
with economic development the private

1288
01:45:54,659 --> 01:46:01,500
businesses can increase and be more
productive

1289
01:45:58,139 --> 01:46:06,900
but again I just want to reiterate as
mayor I see the primary City's primary

1290
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:10,440
interests as is it safe can we contain
the alcohol

1291
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:15,360
and is the noise going to be
shoot

1292
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:18,739
and then I will allow any other member
of the council to speak to the issue

1293
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:28,199
Mr Mayor
economic development is

1294
01:46:25,100 --> 01:46:33,060
very important to any Community the
lifeblood of any community

1295
01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:37,520
and that
that they're attempting to do something

1296
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:45,560
at least in one case has increased some
foot traffic but that results in

1297
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:50,880
increased sales I'm not sure but
my son lives in Lander they have the

1298
01:46:48,179 --> 01:46:56,219
lender live series there which is indeed
in the city park but they do have a very

1299
01:46:53,159 --> 01:47:01,860
interested person who spent a lot of
money himself in building a stage

1300
01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:04,560
for the park
and so there are lots of things going on

1301
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:10,500
there there are lots of other
communities that do that but

1302
01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:14,340
regardless of all the other queries
whether it's the right place or the

1303
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:19,760
wrong place
just like to speak in favor of this as

1304
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:19,760
an event I think

1305
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:28,619
thank you councilman deal
Mr Mayor I would I would Echo some of my

1306
01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:33,360
colleagues statements as well that I
think the event is a good event

1307
01:47:30,980 --> 01:47:37,560
we don't have a lot of entertainment in
this town in this County

1308
01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:42,060
which is unfortunate but I think this is
a good step in that direction

1309
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:45,300
to achieve that and bring about some
more

1310
01:47:42,980 --> 01:47:52,500
quality of life
for residents of the community at Large

1311
01:47:49,020 --> 01:47:56,699
it's difficult for me I wish that I wish
the

1312
01:47:53,520 --> 01:48:00,139
subject wasn't contentious
I I still have my concerns about the

1313
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:08,400
location
uh I I find benefit

1314
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:12,000
in a park myself but nevertheless
uh

1315
01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:14,340
I I do think what we've heard here
tonight

1316
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:19,920
uh
I think there could be some more

1317
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:27,060
lines of dialogue happen between
Commerce and uh

1318
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:32,340
other parties for the event just to
alleviate some concerns and and

1319
01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:35,360
hopefully find a path forward that is
beneficial to everyone

1320
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:41,639
um
I don't know uh perhaps I understand

1321
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:46,440
that Economic Development has to have
some uh far in advance planning for this

1322
01:48:44,580 --> 01:48:50,159
type of event
maybe there's still some things that

1323
01:48:48,060 --> 01:48:55,739
could be discussed amongst them and and
affected businesses I don't know

1324
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:59,820
um
but I I would like to see

1325
01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:03,659
a cohesive
sort of

1326
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:09,480
understanding amongst everybody involved
that that arrives at the betterment

1327
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:13,699
and uh
some somewhat of a positive

1328
01:49:14,699 --> 01:49:22,080
finality to the to the issue
I don't know how that all works but that

1329
01:49:19,980 --> 01:49:26,639
goes along with some of my comments I or
questions I asked earlier about

1330
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:33,840
involving downtown business uh during
those hours that are

1331
01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:40,159
most most Merchants are closed and uh
also trying to impact or lessen the

1332
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:46,159
impact excuse me less than the impact on
those affected businesses

1333
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:52,020
that we've heard from tonight so
supportive of the event my mind is still

1334
01:49:49,219 --> 01:49:55,560
turning on approval or denial of the
permit but

1335
01:49:53,699 --> 01:50:00,420
um
communication is always good as my

1336
01:49:58,139 --> 01:50:05,100
communication instructor once
instructed me so

1337
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:09,000
thank you Mr Mayor
I would just like to make a comment that

1338
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:12,600
I attended every one of the concerts
last year and thoroughly enjoyed each

1339
01:50:10,860 --> 01:50:18,000
one of them except for the last one on
the rain in the wind blew

1340
01:50:15,420 --> 01:50:22,800
as far as the noise of the theater this
the first time I've heard about it

1341
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:28,980
and I would ask
did anybody else I mean mister

1342
01:50:26,580 --> 01:50:34,739
Chief did you go inside the buildings
there the noise or anything

1343
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:39,119
many times yes was it as bad as
well I

1344
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:44,820
mean I guess I
can't relate exactly to what Mrs

1345
01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:49,860
Flanagan said the the instances that I
was in I tried to be proactive and

1346
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:56,639
reactive to that typically if the movie
was absolutely silent I could just hear

1347
01:50:54,060 --> 01:51:00,300
the music but again maybe there was a
loud burst of sound or something that

1348
01:50:58,260 --> 01:51:04,500
had caused some of the problem I did not
hear of the concerns that she stated

1349
01:51:02,420 --> 01:51:08,280
related to folks walking out of the
movies but I did get a couple of phone

1350
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:12,659
calls where they had told me that
someone had come up to the window and

1351
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,840
said that they could hear the music and
we tried to be irresponsive to that and

1352
01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:20,940
there were a couple of times when the
volume had crept up or the band had

1353
01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:25,020
changed and that was too loud and we had
to make accommodation so I I'm sorry I

1354
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:28,560
can't provide a complete answer in terms
of

1355
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:32,880
whether or not that happened I can't
tell you the experiences that I had in

1356
01:51:30,540 --> 01:51:37,940
the theater the movie had to have been
incredibly quiet in order for

1357
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,940
be heard

1358
01:51:40,380 --> 01:51:45,719
you changed the location of the band
stance I'm assuming that's trying to

1359
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:49,260
alleviate that problem
yeah sorry

1360
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:53,699
um this will be the third time we've
made an adjustment our first attempt was

1361
01:51:51,900 --> 01:51:58,800
a disaster
he had a theory that we would set the

1362
01:51:56,100 --> 01:52:03,000
band to the east of the theater and
project South

1363
01:52:00,139 --> 01:52:07,560
with the thought that that noise would
kind of go past the theater without

1364
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:10,980
having an impact and essentially it
drove the noise right into the back of

1365
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:15,480
the theater and it was totally
unsuccessful we had a very hard time

1366
01:52:13,139 --> 01:52:20,159
making those decibels
ratings to be reasonable and it was not

1367
01:52:18,300 --> 01:52:24,480
a not a good way to have it set up we
transitioned to the band being on the

1368
01:52:22,739 --> 01:52:29,880
west side of the parking lot and Facing
East and then we utilized the food

1369
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:34,199
trucks to block sound and with that we
had pretty good luck I mean we were able

1370
01:52:32,159 --> 01:52:37,980
to consistently keep that down in the 80
to 84 range

1371
01:52:39,719 --> 01:52:46,139
like I said I I really enjoyed the
concerts I hope we can continue them but

1372
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:50,760
it sounds like it needed to work out a
few little problems but hopefully we can

1373
01:52:48,179 --> 01:52:57,300
get that done too
Mr Mayor I wonder if Leanne if you could

1374
01:52:55,080 --> 01:53:00,960
answer a question for me or anybody from
Economic Development

1375
01:52:58,980 --> 01:53:04,219
is the event contingent upon the
approval of the permit tonight

1376
01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:18,920
Mr shedner and you may come up here if
you

1377
01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:18,920
Facebook

1378
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:34,800
and if you will state your name for the
record my name is Kelly setner

1379
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:38,340
my history would lead me to believe that
sound travels out from a speaker is that

1380
01:53:37,619 --> 01:53:44,940
correct
I'm no sound in his engineer so

1381
01:53:43,260 --> 01:53:48,780
I would think it goes out from the
speaker so my my question is if you

1382
01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:53,699
really want to
the sound lore why wouldn't you put the

1383
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:57,659
band on the North side or on the yeah on
the north side of the movie theater with

1384
01:53:55,739 --> 01:54:02,100
all the speakers projecting out so the
sound's traveling out in a way

1385
01:53:59,820 --> 01:54:05,820
when it was pointed South obviously it
was going right towards the theater

1386
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:10,500
any other location you're going to get
sound going towards the theater my

1387
01:54:08,340 --> 01:54:17,100
experience has been a few and I ran many
dances back in my days in Hershey but

1388
01:54:13,739 --> 01:54:23,179
you're you're this the quietest part
of a band is behind the speaker system

1389
01:54:20,699 --> 01:54:23,179
so

1390
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:30,900
for my two cents I think somebody should
investigate that and maybe we could

1391
01:54:28,739 --> 01:54:35,760
reduce the sound even further
what I had that same question myself as

1392
01:54:33,719 --> 01:54:38,780
I look at the diagram of the potential
setup here

1393
01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:44,880
the band
is on the south

1394
01:54:41,940 --> 01:54:49,920
West corner of the parking lot
pointing Northeast

1395
01:54:47,340 --> 01:54:55,920
so it'll be hitting the courthouse and
off into that area for the most part and

1396
01:54:52,139 --> 01:55:00,900
then the food trucks are east of it and
north of it to keep it from going

1397
01:54:58,860 --> 01:55:05,040
directly east that just makes sense to
me that Sound projects out

1398
01:55:03,239 --> 01:55:09,239
if you don't want sound
put the band on the north side of it and

1399
01:55:07,139 --> 01:55:12,719
you won't have near as much in my
opinion and I'm certainly somebody

1400
01:55:10,980 --> 01:55:15,840
that's smarter than I could figure that
one out but

1401
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:19,500
food for thought
thank you Mr I guess one of the

1402
01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:23,100
suggestions to move the speakers like
that would be

1403
01:55:20,639 --> 01:55:27,980
try it this way the first one if done
work then you know the speakers the

1404
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,980
other place for the next one

1405
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:35,900
hey there's a there's a little bit of a
space issue there in terms of

1406
01:55:33,119 --> 01:55:42,300
needing to keep that alley open
that's immediately north of the theater

1407
01:55:39,020 --> 01:55:46,260
I'm not against trying that but it does
create I mean one of the things that you

1408
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:50,219
sometimes feel off of the back of the
stage haven't walked around a lot

1409
01:55:47,940 --> 01:55:54,239
there's a fair bit of bass
that moves off of those speakers I mean

1410
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:58,440
they're ported in the back so you may
not have quite the decibels but you do

1411
01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:03,179
tend to have a fair bit of bass and you
also because of the size of the space of

1412
01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:07,860
the stage and the need to keep that
alley clear and the amount of equipment

1413
01:56:05,820 --> 01:56:13,500
that goes behind the stage we end up
compressing pretty close to the

1414
01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:17,280
bathrooms and so we're pretty much right
on top of the bathrooms and then sound

1415
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:22,739
is reflecting off of the bathrooms and
we've got a smaller space there I'm not

1416
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:26,820
against trying it if that's I mean it's
it's not my event it's economic

1417
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:30,600
developments event and if they feel like
that's something worth trying I'd be

1418
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:35,239
happy to support that and look at it it
would alter what we'd have to do to

1419
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:41,580
impact parking and different things
but part of what they have submitted is

1420
01:56:39,239 --> 01:56:45,900
an understanding that we can try some
different things to mitigate that noise

1421
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:52,020
and make it as least impactful as
possible as I look at the diagram it's

1422
01:56:49,619 --> 01:56:58,320
in there
band is located on the southwest corner

1423
01:56:55,619 --> 01:57:02,880
and it looks like it's pointed Northeast
so

1424
01:57:00,719 --> 01:57:08,760
if you're correct about the base then
the base is not going to go into the

1425
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:14,880
theater building it's going to go
across the alley and down the alley if

1426
01:57:12,239 --> 01:57:20,420
it's set up the way it's configured here
but that was the intent of discussion

1427
01:57:17,940 --> 01:57:20,420
that we had

1428
01:57:21,239 --> 01:57:27,780
correct
and Mr councilman Kelly just pointed out

1429
01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:31,380
last year it was on the West Side the
alley and almost pointed due east right

1430
01:57:29,940 --> 01:57:34,219
first one
we're over here

1431
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:49,199
well certainly that would be my hope
that whatever can be done to mitigate

1432
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:55,320
the noise that's
affecting the theater should be

1433
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:59,580
looking to go
yeah Mr Mayor I agree there are a couple

1434
01:57:57,420 --> 01:58:05,099
of us up here that had some involvement
in radio too and have been into dealing

1435
01:58:02,940 --> 01:58:08,699
with maybe we should be asking you and I
can I'm not an acoustic engineer but I

1436
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:12,000
can tell you that the vast majority of
sound is projected intentionally through

1437
01:58:10,980 --> 01:58:16,560
the speed
toward the front however there is this

1438
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:20,179
thing called feedback so you do get some
coming back the other direction

1439
01:58:20,219 --> 01:58:26,159
but that is the best of of all worlds I
would think

1440
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:30,080
corner
the way it's set forth in this diagram

1441
01:58:35,340 --> 01:58:40,980
all right
we've been at this a while

1442
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:47,340
I would
entertain a

1443
01:58:42,599 --> 01:58:54,239
motion uh to prove of the special event
permit item number eight on the agenda

1444
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:59,099
the request by
Leon Madison Braden Connor with Goshen

1445
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:05,540
County Economic Development
their special event permit for the

1446
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:05,540
summer concert series do I have a motion

1447
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:12,840
make a motion to approve
I have a motion from councilman deal to

1448
01:59:10,739 --> 01:59:15,199
approve this special event permit do I
have a second

1449
01:59:16,380 --> 01:59:24,800
I have a counter a second from
councilman Patterson

1450
01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:24,800
is there any further discussion Dylan

1451
01:59:29,940 --> 01:59:38,040
hearing none I would call for a vote all
those in favor of approving the special

1452
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:43,560
event permit allowing Economic
Development to put on this special event

1453
01:59:40,020 --> 01:59:50,179
for the summer concert series signified
by saying aye I

1454
01:59:46,260 --> 01:59:58,219
any opposed signify by saying nay nay
there is four eyes and one may the eyes

1455
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:58,219
have it so the special

1456
01:59:59,219 --> 02:00:10,400
councilman victory nay yes
Four Eyes one nay the special event

1457
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:10,400
permit is passed thank you

1458
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:20,580
next item on the agenda is a catering
permit or Julie harshberger with 307

1459
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:25,380
Sports Bar and Grill
requesting a catering permit for the

1460
02:00:22,619 --> 02:00:32,300
Torrington Cinemas couples night out or
Friday March 24th 2023 from 5 to 11 pm

1461
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:43,139
Johnson can you speak to that
certainly

1462
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:49,440
um this is very similar to the ladies
night that they did at the theater

1463
02:00:46,860 --> 02:00:54,480
a month ago
um we had no concerns with that this is

1464
02:00:51,540 --> 02:01:00,840
a very safe Pleasant event the way that
Mrs Flanagan and Julia run it is pretty

1465
02:00:58,860 --> 02:01:06,119
risk-free there's nobody under 21 in the
theater or at least nobody under 21

1466
02:01:03,119 --> 02:01:11,280
that's a patron of the theater they
check IDs at the door the services for

1467
02:01:09,420 --> 02:01:15,420
upstairs and downstairs so we don't have
to worry about keeping anybody separate

1468
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:21,139
I'm the only people who are underage in
the theater are employees who manage the

1469
02:01:18,900 --> 02:01:26,940
ticket sales and yogurt sales
and they're monitored by an adult so

1470
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:30,000
really don't have any concerns it's uh
recommend approval and seems like a good

1471
02:01:29,219 --> 02:01:34,320
event
thank you Chief councilman do you have

1472
02:01:32,699 --> 02:01:39,000
any questions for chief Johnson about
this request for a catering instrument

1473
02:01:37,679 --> 02:01:41,940
s
I'm sorry sorry

1474
02:01:40,380 --> 02:01:47,360
I just wondered if Council had any
questions for chief Johnson

1475
02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:51,060
I don't see any Mrs Flanagan
I just wanted to let you know that with

1476
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:56,580
our ladies night event it was a huge
success not only for my business but for

1477
02:01:54,060 --> 02:02:02,460
the entire downtown our entire downtown
we wanted to make sure that we invited

1478
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:08,040
everybody that was in any crevice and
everything that we could possibly find

1479
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:14,400
the women of our community showed up big
time and um not only did they show up

1480
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:18,420
for a ladies event but they showed up
for the rest of the businesses downtown

1481
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:23,040
and even though it was after the retail
businesses

1482
02:02:19,739 --> 02:02:27,480
um the bars were overflowing it was
wonderful not only downtown but also at

1483
02:02:25,020 --> 02:02:32,580
307 and it was a wonderful wonderful
unexpected

1484
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:37,139
showing of what we could do and help our
community so I just wanted to make sure

1485
02:02:34,260 --> 02:02:41,219
that you guys know that after we found
out that that was an awesome

1486
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:46,679
turn of events we are going to start
planning more events that will benefit

1487
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:50,719
the businesses downtown because we do
believe that that is one amazing

1488
02:02:51,239 --> 02:02:58,800
factor that just happened to happen with
those businesses

1489
02:02:55,980 --> 02:03:05,159
um I did get a lot of thank yous from
the businesses and um it was it was a

1490
02:03:01,980 --> 02:03:09,119
great great thing to know that
taking the time to make sure that the

1491
02:03:07,500 --> 02:03:13,080
details were
in order

1492
02:03:10,619 --> 02:03:17,400
that it was a blessing
in more ways than one so I just wanted

1493
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:21,540
to let you know that we do try really
really hard to impact the businesses

1494
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:27,179
around us in a positive point I have a
question yes sir the last catering event

1495
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:31,800
the catering permit we approved was the
ladies night out yes sir did

1496
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:35,580
I'm not gonna it's okay put you on the
spot but did you have a good turnout for

1497
02:03:33,719 --> 02:03:40,860
that we had an amazing turnout we had
about 125

1498
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:45,540
um women show up we offered two movies
um 180 for Brady which was a huge

1499
02:03:43,380 --> 02:03:49,619
success Across the Nation but we also
put bridesmaids upstairs uh I'm sorry

1500
02:03:48,179 --> 02:03:54,780
not right
bad moms bad moms upstairs

1501
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:59,400
we also let the community choose between
bridesmaids and bad moms that was we

1502
02:03:57,719 --> 02:04:04,679
tried to let the community involvement
in our business speak because we are not

1503
02:04:02,340 --> 02:04:09,840
here for ourselves we're here for the
community

1504
02:04:06,119 --> 02:04:14,639
um and they chose to have bad moms and
also for this event for couples night

1505
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:17,580
slash guys night we realize the guys
don't like to just call up their guy

1506
02:04:16,199 --> 02:04:23,699
friends and be like hey you want to go
to the movies doesn't happen so we had

1507
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:27,360
to plan a little differently
um a lot of the guys when because we try

1508
02:04:25,860 --> 02:04:31,920
really hard to publicize what we have
coming if I can find out it's not always

1509
02:04:30,119 --> 02:04:36,000
possible and sometimes they change their
minds really close to the time that it's

1510
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:40,380
supposed to come out
um since John Wick was

1511
02:04:38,460 --> 02:04:43,099
totally happening and has not been
pulled

1512
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:47,340
as of today
the guys really wanted this and a

1513
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:51,900
western
well we found out

1514
02:04:49,159 --> 02:04:56,639
that there is a rodeo College Rodeo
happening this Friday

1515
02:04:53,760 --> 02:05:01,739
so we're gonna hold on the western which
we already have

1516
02:04:58,139 --> 02:05:06,780
um scheduled for the another guy's night
slash couples night

1517
02:05:03,659 --> 02:05:11,340
um but it is one that that a lot of the
Cowboys really want to see and I believe

1518
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:15,860
it has
Clint Eastwood in it I'm so sorry Every

1519
02:05:13,980 --> 02:05:21,239
Which Way from
this that's the one

1520
02:05:18,300 --> 02:05:25,440
sorry it's so not my forte I think it
has Jackson in it too yeah so that's the

1521
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:31,380
one that was requested we will have that
one but not this Friday but obviously we

1522
02:05:29,639 --> 02:05:35,520
are going to do these events a lot more
often we are also going to do a kids

1523
02:05:33,300 --> 02:05:39,540
event twice a year as well as ladies
events twice a year men's night couples

1524
02:05:37,619 --> 02:05:44,159
night twice a year so that we can
accommodate all of the residents in our

1525
02:05:42,420 --> 02:05:51,239
community as well as plan some other
events the kids night we want to involve

1526
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:55,380
a lot more and I may ask to shut down
the street in front of us but I also

1527
02:05:53,460 --> 02:05:57,840
went and I talked to all of the
businesses just to make sure that that

1528
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:02,400
was something that maybe we can start
planning on later but that they were

1529
02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:05,219
okay with that and they have been hands
down so supportive and I'm so thankful

1530
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:10,080
for them
so just for future reference we will

1531
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:16,139
probably be coming to you a lot more
one one more question for me uh this the

1532
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:21,420
lady that's catering catering this event
on Friday the 24th Julie she's the same

1533
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:25,440
one that catered yeah okay yep um we
have a great relationship with them um

1534
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:28,679
cost effective for us
um

1535
02:06:26,639 --> 02:06:33,060
I think her because it is
it's something unfortunately when we are

1536
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:37,980
new and literally every expense is
coming out of our pocket right now

1537
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:41,520
um literally everything we have to pay
for out of pocket because we are not

1538
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:45,420
making enough through the theater
um to supplement not your problem it is

1539
02:06:44,460 --> 02:06:49,500
totally something that we're working
through and we are building Jesus

1540
02:06:47,639 --> 02:06:52,800
Revolution was great for us but yes
Julie is

1541
02:06:51,300 --> 02:06:57,020
um doing the event right now because
cost effectively it just works for us

1542
02:06:57,060 --> 02:07:02,480
any other questions I can answer
councilman do you have any questions

1543
02:07:04,139 --> 02:07:13,139
I know Sandy thank you thank you guys I
would move to approve this care I have a

1544
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:17,699
motion from councilman Patterson to
approve the catering permit to allow

1545
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:22,080
Julie Miller harshberger with 307 Sports
Bar and Grill to have a catering

1546
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:29,280
catering permit for the Torrington
Cinemas couples night out on March 24 20

1547
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:32,179
23 from 5 PM to 11 P.M do I have a
second second

1548
02:07:33,300 --> 02:07:41,699
I have a second from councilman victron
I do have any further discussion

1549
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:45,599
hearing none all those in favor of
approving this catering permit signify

1550
02:07:44,159 --> 02:07:51,960
for saying aye
aye any opposed signify by saying they

1551
02:07:48,179 --> 02:07:56,900
catering credit permit is approved
next item on the agenda is the approval

1552
02:07:54,179 --> 02:07:56,900
of the bills

1553
02:08:00,900 --> 02:08:08,280
thank you mayor and Council
handed out tonight was a set of bills

1554
02:08:05,639 --> 02:08:11,840
for you to review I'd be glad to answer
any questions you may have

1555
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:19,380
I think everybody's aware but you also
had some additional ones that you gave

1556
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:23,780
us prior to them yes
that we're not on the agenda okay

1557
02:08:24,239 --> 02:08:27,500
they're attached to the attempt

1558
02:08:27,580 --> 02:08:30,689
[Applause]

1559
02:08:41,219 --> 02:08:48,360
in the second set of bills
page

1560
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:53,179
three at the bottom it says Sam's West
Incorporated

1561
02:08:50,099 --> 02:08:53,179
interest charges

1562
02:09:04,020 --> 02:09:09,179
um so Sam's
is

1563
02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:15,540
um
a little strange in their billing

1564
02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:19,619
and so what they what happened I believe
here is

1565
02:09:17,639 --> 02:09:25,320
um
it what we have started doing is paying

1566
02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:29,940
each ticket as we get it and not waiting
for the statement

1567
02:09:26,699 --> 02:09:33,960
because apparently
if you wait for the statement some of

1568
02:09:32,099 --> 02:09:38,780
the charges may be late
so that is what happened in this

1569
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,780
instance

1570
02:10:12,060 --> 02:10:14,300
foreign

1571
02:10:27,060 --> 02:10:38,280
I have a motion from councilman Kelly to
approve the bills as presented from

1572
02:10:33,179 --> 02:10:42,320
March 3rd or March 8th of 23 to March
21st of 23. do I have a second

1573
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:47,420
I have a second from councilman deal

1574
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:53,060
gentlemen is there any further
discussion on the approval of the bills

1575
02:10:55,800 --> 02:11:05,520
hearing that I'd call for a vote all
those in favor of approval of the bills

1576
02:11:00,599 --> 02:11:10,020
from March 8 23 to March 21 23 signified
by saying aye aye any opposed signify by

1577
02:11:08,699 --> 02:11:18,900
saying nay
ice habit for bills from March 3rd

1578
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:24,599
March 8th 23 to March 21st 23 are
approved thank you

1579
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:30,540
next item on the agenda is the public
comment section

1580
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:36,000
I see the public has dwindled a bit
any members of the public or council

1581
02:11:32,699 --> 02:11:43,320
members have a comment that they want to
bring forward now is playing

1582
02:11:40,860 --> 02:11:47,580
I just wanted to introduce you guys to
my staff

1583
02:11:44,599 --> 02:11:51,179
and most of you know Stacy Stacy Lira
who is

1584
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:55,380
a fantastic owner of yogalicious if you
guys have not tried that I highly

1585
02:11:53,219 --> 02:11:58,920
recommend it but I would like to
introduce you to my staff Caitlin

1586
02:11:57,599 --> 02:12:03,300
Flanagan
and bowler

1587
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:07,440
Lexi Flanagan Shaylee Jackson
these girls are

1588
02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:12,179
some girls that you need to make sure
and watch

1589
02:12:09,179 --> 02:12:17,760
um they are going places and I am so
proud to have them run our theater to be

1590
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:24,119
a part of the public
to treat the customers and the rest of

1591
02:12:20,460 --> 02:12:29,219
the community with respect and trudge
through the unfortunate circumstances

1592
02:12:25,679 --> 02:12:35,780
sometimes you come across in retail but
I wanted to make sure that you guys know

1593
02:12:30,540 --> 02:12:35,780
who they are because these girls are

1594
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:43,920
um well let's see
THS lingle THS THS

1595
02:12:42,599 --> 02:12:49,079
and
um I just want you to know that these

1596
02:12:45,659 --> 02:12:56,400
girls have truly given their all to the
theater to our community not only

1597
02:12:52,860 --> 02:13:00,119
to that but they are also working
pretty much full-time

1598
02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:03,659
and going to school full-time
to um

1599
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:06,540
further their career maybe later
hopefully they stay at the theater

1600
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:09,900
forever but
I just wanted to let you guys know who

1601
02:13:08,099 --> 02:13:14,040
they are so that if you ever come in you
will meet them

1602
02:13:11,159 --> 02:13:18,780
and and that they stayed they are
wonderful I'm very thankful that they so

1603
02:13:16,260 --> 02:13:21,659
graciously stayed to listen and be
respectful to you guys for the job that

1604
02:13:20,639 --> 02:13:27,060
you do
thank you I appreciate the introduction

1605
02:13:23,579 --> 02:13:32,520
and I appreciate your perseverance
it's what self-governance is about okay

1606
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:36,780
I wish more people would be involved so
thank you for doing that

1607
02:13:34,139 --> 02:13:40,079
appreciate it
any oh

1608
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:46,280
fireman
fire chief patch you're back there do

1609
02:13:42,119 --> 02:13:46,280
you have any comments for the council

1610
02:13:51,119 --> 02:13:59,460
seeing if you're awake
you dutifully send me a report on these

1611
02:13:57,179 --> 02:14:02,820
sort of days and I got that there's been
a little

1612
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:06,599
uptick in activity but it's mostly smoke
alarmed kind of things and you had a

1613
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:10,679
grass fire that you assisted with yeah
we've had uh the last couple weeks a

1614
02:14:08,820 --> 02:14:16,980
little uptick with some smoke detectors
going off a few carbon monoxide calls

1615
02:14:14,219 --> 02:14:24,060
faulty detectors you know they kind of
wear out we did have last week on Monday

1616
02:14:19,679 --> 02:14:27,900
uh Yoder and about a 75 acre grass fire
so with the wind and everything it's

1617
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:33,300
kind of about that time stuff's drying
out the unfortunate thing on that call

1618
02:14:29,639 --> 02:14:36,780
was soil still pretty soft but it burns
so some trucks were getting stuck here

1619
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:41,480
and there and
it's kind of the time of year it is and

1620
02:14:38,460 --> 02:14:41,480
the way it goes so

1621
02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:45,320
I think they're going well and

1622
02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:52,800
anybody has any questions
any questions from the council

1623
02:14:51,300 --> 02:14:55,340
thank you appreciate your service thank
you have a good evening

1624
02:14:58,260 --> 02:15:03,960
we're on item 12 of the agenda
everything that's on the agenda has been

1625
02:15:02,579 --> 02:15:09,420
completed
so I will

1626
02:15:07,619 --> 02:15:12,079
determine that this meeting is adjourned
thank you