[1:57] council meeting in March here we have
Ryan Keith from k-e-r-m cadeus live this
[2:05] is being broadcast live on the local
radio stations and it's also being
[2:09] preserved and will be up on Youtube
channel too we also have Miss Cindy
[2:13] shealy here from the Torrington Telegram
um
[2:19] our first item of business is the Pledge
of Allegiance and I've asked councilman
[2:23] victron to lead us in the pledge
[2:29] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[2:35] Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and
[2:42] justice for all
foreign
[2:48] next item on the agenda is the mayor's
informational items and I've asked
[2:54] Rhonda Estes our senior accounting clerk
to come tonight and give us a short
[2:58] presentation during this section on the
Wyoming community gas program while she
[3:04] comes up if she will I will just mention
that the goal of the Wyoming community
[3:10] gas program is to create an insanity
Insanity for competition among the
[3:16] natural gas providers
to get the lowest cost to the consumer
[3:20] also the monies come in or come back to
Torrington under this program this year
[3:25] we were told by Miss Estes and she
presented us with a check for thirteen
[3:30] thousand six hundred and thirty dollars
and very briefly this money is used for
[3:35] such things as an ewc scholarship the
Dare golf tournament golf passes for
[3:40] fundraisers for rotary and the Valley
Christian School and so on can you
[3:45] explain to us just the basics about this
program Mrs Estes sure many years ago
[3:53] um actually back when Ed jelovich was
mayor they were at a Wham meeting and
[3:59] they were discussing the cost of their
gas bills and at that time we had a sole
[4:04] supplier of gas and so several
communities actually 10 of them they
[4:11] went together and formed a group and
went to the gas company at that time and
[4:18] asked if they could
um
[4:22] create some competition and
and go out and purchase gas from a gas
[4:30] company and so at that time they became
the Ten of them became the Torrington
[4:35] Division and that was going pretty well
and so the billing is still done through
[4:41] our gas company that we currently have
and it's and they do the billing and the
[4:49] meter reading any of the services it's
just the commodity commodity portion
[4:54] that they were going out and asking for
the competition for
[4:59] and so they've done that and
any of that money through the Wyoming
[5:06] community gas they were labeled
themselves as Wyoming community gas
[5:10] any of that money that is made in that
program
[5:13] it's not to it's not to make money so
those that money comes back to the
[5:18] communities
and so that's where those funds that we
[5:23] receive each year
um is where those funds are coming from
[5:27] and so it is going to be our balloting
season here April 6th through the 26th
[5:33] people will be getting their ballots and
there's several ways that they can look
[5:38] for the different rate options that they
have and
[5:42] the commodity
portion of it that um different
[5:46] suppliers are offering and so they can
check prices for that the Wyman
[5:53] Community gas is the sole supplier that
gets back to your communities and we
[5:57] just like to remind people that keep it
in their mind so that
[6:01] our community has benefited well from
this
[6:06] the money that we've received back
so if you have a ballot and you want
[6:12] help you're welcome to come to City Hall
any of us girls who can help you with
[6:16] that as well as you can call or do it
online and so a lot of times people will
[6:23] actually group them together if they
have you know five or six
[6:28] accounts they usually give us just even
a little bit better price for it so
[6:33] you're welcome to give us a call or stop
by and we can help you out
[6:40] thank you all right thank you
and just one last thing on that issue
[6:45] there are a whole lot of entities and
projects that benefit from this money in
[6:51] the City of Torrington oftentimes you'll
see a little sign there Wyoming
[6:55] community gas so look for that thank you
[7:00] historically in Wyoming cities have been
tasked with providing parks and
[7:05] recreational activities
spring is here this city provides an
[7:10] abundance of recreational activities and
Parks
[7:14] there were numerous city parks we have a
special dog park the Carol Thompson dog
[7:19] park that was a public private
Cooperative effort
[7:23] we have the swimming pool we have the
golf course we have an RV park we have
[7:28] soccer fields baseball and softball
fields a walking path and I invite
[7:33] everybody to enjoy all these parks and
activities that we have here in
[7:37] Torrington I'm just a notice to pet
owners please clean up after your dogs
[7:43] the dogs are your responsibility and
that's a great help to the city if
[7:48] people will take care of their dogs and
their dog way so thank you for that
[7:53] um I was advised that uh
the bread doctor made a national
[7:58] magazine councilman Kelly brought this
to me this is the
[8:02] aaaarp magazine that you get if I think
you're 50 or older probably uh it's a
[8:08] national magazine and they're Wrecking
recognized in in this magazine and it's
[8:14] got a picture of of him with his father
and or him with his daughter and so it's
[8:20] available in the current issue of the
art magazine so
[8:24] there's that now
as always please slow down watch for
[8:31] pedestrians since spring is here watch
for motorcycles bicyclists and there's a
[8:36] lot more joggers and such out there so
please keep an eye on them and please
[8:40] refrain from your cell phone use while
driving thank you
[8:47] the next item on the agenda is the
approval of the consent agenda which
[8:52] includes the minutes from the
March 7th 23 council meeting is
[8:58] published
[9:01] I have a motion from councilman
Patterson to approve the consent agenda
[9:06] so I have a second from councilman deal
any discussion gentlemen
[9:13] hearing none all those in favor of
approving the consent agenda
[9:18] if you can find by saying aye
aye any opposed signify by saying nay
[9:23] the consent agenda is approved
next item on the agenda is the approval
[9:28] of the agenda
this has been published and sent all the
[9:33] council members and appears that you've
all been provided a copy
[9:37] I hope to prove the agenda I have a
motion from councilman Kelly to approve
[9:43] the agenda do I have a second second I
have a second from councilman Victory
[9:47] any discussion down
hearing none I'd call for vote all those
[9:52] in favor of approval of the agenda
signify by saying aye
[9:56] aye in the opposed signify by saying
they
[9:59] genders approved
next item on the agenda is what we call
[10:03] the public forum I don't believe there
are any
[10:07] is anything put in the box tonight
I don't see any and haven't been advised
[10:13] of any but just for informational
purposes if a citizen wants to speak to
[10:18] the council at this point the agenda
usually it's at this point in the agenda
[10:22] you can fill out a form and receive two
minutes of time to address the council
[10:28] no action will be taken but that's an
opportunity for the public to address
[10:32] the council
next item on the agenda are the action
[10:36] items the first item
on the agenda is the mayor's
[10:42] appointments
[10:46] and for this meeting gentlemen uh
there are three things
[10:52] I have
are asking you to advise a proven
[10:57] consent to Anna Barnes as the
I guessed additional
[11:02] Municipal associate judge right now John
Patrick is the municipal judge Kenneth
[11:07] Brown is
Municipal associate judge and I'm asking
[11:11] to include Miss Anna Barnes as a as a
municipal associate judge I know Anna
[11:18] she's a practicing attorney in town she
is also a circuit court magistrate and
[11:23] as I believe the town attorney for
lingle right now and is engaged in
[11:28] private practice so that's Miss Barnes
background
[11:31] I'm also asking to for the council to
approve
[11:36] the appointment of Gary Olsen to the
lodging Tax Board
[11:39] uh Sarah chairs was on that board for
years and chairman for many years I've
[11:45] had several conversations with her
her explanation of what makes a good
[11:51] member for that board is somebody who is
passionate about tourism in this
[11:56] community in Goshen County and in
Torrington that's their big item promote
[12:00] tourism and bring in people which
benefits the community so I've asked
[12:04] that the council approved the
appointment of Gary Olsen here in town
[12:08] Gary Olsen is the owner of TDS and
probably other things in this community
[12:12] and has a big building just west of the
courthouse here right in town so that's
[12:17] Mr Olsen
and finally on the appointments the
[12:22] Torrington Urban systems committee
I have asked chief of police Matt
[12:27] Johnson to be on there and he's agreed
to accept an appointment to be on that
[12:32] committee and Kelly sitner who is here
with us tonight I can see him straight
[12:37] back from me has agreed to be appointed
as a member of the Torrington Urban
[12:42] systems committee so if the council has
any questions about those appointments I
[12:48] just went over I'm willing to entertain
any questions
[12:52] I I don't have a question on that point
he's Mr Mayor but I am curious what the
[12:57] Torrington Urban systems committee does
well
[13:01] um I may defer to the director of public
works for a brief background I have a
[13:07] obviously not as good at understanding
as he does he's been on that committee
[13:10] for a long time so Mr Harkins could you
give us a brief explanation of that
[13:14] committee yeah thank you Mr Mayor uh the
urban systems committee is a state
[13:21] funded
[13:25] coalition
of all municipalities that want to
[13:30] participate throughout the state
there's a pot of money that is then
[13:34] divvied up between each of the
communities
[13:37] currently Torrington receives I think
around a hundred thousand dollars a year
[13:41] I think the balance of our account is
about 1.1 million right at right at the
[13:46] moment
those funds can be used on what are
[13:49] classified as federal aid
roads or routes
[13:55] some of the roads within Torrington
would be like East D Street
[14:00] East dam east p
uh West sea those types of roads that
[14:07] are basically major roads or collector
roads within the city also obviously the
[14:14] various County roads are also eligible
for participation in this
[14:20] uh
in this program
[14:24] the committee decides
what the best use of the funds would be
[14:30] and then approaches the state
to uh
[14:35] construct a project so to speak and
utilize those funds
[14:40] in the uh in the construction of that
project
[14:45] thank you
[14:48] any further questions for me
[14:52] these appointments confirmed on mass yes
I would ask for a motion to confirm Miss
[14:57] Barnes as Municipal associate judge Mr
Gary Olsen as lodging Tax Board member
[15:04] and
Mr Matt or Chief Matt Johnson and Victor
[15:09] Kelly sittner as City of Torrington
representatives for the urban systems
[15:13] award so if I would I would ask for a
motion to include all three in one
[15:18] motion
all right do I have a second second
[15:22] I have a motion from councilman
Patterson in a second from councilman
[15:27] victron to approve uh Miss Barnes as
Municipal associate judge Mr Gary Olsen
[15:33] to be on the lodging Tax Board Chief
Matt Johnson to be on the target Urban
[15:38] systems board and Mr Kelly sitting there
to be on the urban systems board any
[15:43] discussion
[15:47] hearing none all those in favor of
consenting to those appointments signify
[15:52] by saying aye aye aye any opposed
signify by saying nay
[15:57] all right those people are appointed
thank you Council
[16:01] next item on the agenda is
ordinance third reading
[16:06] Mr Eddington could you read that
ordinance please
[16:10] so Norton's creating and acting Section
1
[16:14] 3.20.040 of chapter 1 3.20 the
Torrington Municipal Code authorizing
[16:19] and directing execution of the green
energy program subscription confirmation
[16:23] by the City of Torrington with the
municipal energy agency of Nebraska
[16:27] thank you Mr Eddington
um
[16:32] this is the third reading I know that
there have been some questions from
[16:36] Council on the first two readings are
there any questions from Council on this
[16:40] third reading
[16:43] have not been any changes
[16:47] all right if there is no further or no
further questions I'd entertain a motion
[16:51] to approve on third reading the uh
authorized the
[16:56] ordinance authorizing and directing the
execution of the green energy program
[17:01] I want to move to approve the ordinance
I have a motion from Council councilman
[17:05] Shelley to approve the Ordinance do I
have a second second a second from
[17:08] councilman deal any further discussion
gentlemen
[17:12] hearing none all those in favor of
ordinance reading authorizing and
[17:17] directing execution of the green energy
program signified by saying aye
[17:21] aye aye any opposed signify by saying
they
[17:25] that ordinance is passed on third
reading
[17:28] the next item on the agenda is ordinance
on second reading
[17:36] Mr Eddington could you read that for us
please and ordinance repealing Section 1
[17:41] 3.2 4.030 returned to Invisible code
2023 revisions relating to deposits
[17:49] okay and this ordinance is presented on
second reading this was a cleanup of the
[17:53] ordinances this was an O2 ordinance
which
[17:57] contains a procedure for dealing with
utility deposits and so on that is
[18:03] Obsolete and is no longer in effect and
the idea is to clear it off the books
[18:10] I would move to approve this ordinance
second reading okay I have a motion from
[18:15] councilman Patterson to approve this
ordinance on second reading do I have a
[18:20] second second I have a second
I think I councilman victim Beach I
[18:25] believe I think I have a second from
councilman Victor any further discussion
[18:29] gentlemen
hearing none all those in favor of
[18:33] approving on second
reading this ordinance repealing section
[18:37] 13.24.030
[18:41] uh all those in favor signify but saying
aye aye aye any opposed signify by
[18:46] saying they
that ordinance on second reading is
[18:51] passed repealing Section 1 3.24.030
[18:56] Council will now be leaving regular
session
[19:00] and will now convene as a board of
adjustment
[19:05] first item before the council as a board
of adjustment is Mr Mark McMahon is
[19:11] requesting a setback variance at 131
Holly Drive
[19:16] uh Mr Estes can you give us a little
background on that please thank you
[19:21] mayor as you said Mr McCann is asking
for a setback variance on the North
[19:26] side of his property from the acquired
20 or 30 foot to 23 foot and on the east
[19:32] side of his property from 30 foot to
20.5 foot he wishes to build a little
[19:38] bigger garage to store store some
personal equipment I've had no comments
[19:43] from the neighbors uh staff would
recommend approval
[19:47] and Mr McCann is here if you'd like to
visit with him
[19:50] so this is the property in question if
you're not aware of it it's right above
[19:53] the swimming pool
this property right here
[20:00] what's unique about this property it's
one of the few that has a full solid uh
[20:05] fence around it
[20:08] are we out here
right here
[20:10] so he wants to put this garage right on
the back of this one here
[20:14] he wants to come right at you with the
garage and take this block wall out of
[20:18] here
so really he's only coming out in front
[20:20] of that block wall a few feet on each
side so
[20:24] I like again I've had no no comments
from the neighbors staff would recommend
[20:28] approval
all right well this is a this is this
[20:32] hearing is open to the public does any
member of the public wish to speak to
[20:36] this request for variance
[20:45] either for or against
seeing no takers
[20:52] I would close this portion of this
public hearing on this
[20:55] request for variance
[20:59] council do you have any further
questions of Mr Estes
[21:05] I would just a couple of questions he's
paid the fee
[21:08] all the appropriate people were served
with notice of this request there's been
[21:12] no objections that is correct mayor
I would assume is this is going to be
[21:17] the same material is already on the
house now I would assume so but the
[21:20] gentleman's here if you'd like to visit
with him
[21:26] you may come up here please
[21:31] councilman Kelly I've got to the
building end of it yet so I couldn't
[21:34] tell you that
[21:39] my question was just is it going to be
the same material on this new edition as
[21:43] it is on the old house right so the
house and the uh cinder block fence are
[21:48] both stucco and we would match existing
the roof line would match existing
[21:52] there's a Circle Drive in the front and
it wouldn't go out to the Circle Drive
[21:57] it would stop about two feet from that
Circle Drive
[22:02] um it would look similar to the two-car
garage you would have
[22:06] on the left side though one garage door
a foot higher for a decent truck so
[22:14] but
um you can put the block wall on that
[22:18] side too like it is now are you going to
eliminate that so we won't need the
[22:21] block wall any longer on this side but
we will tie the back
[22:26] of the garage into the existing block
wall so we where you saw the arch in the
[22:31] front
there will be
[22:34] yeah if you want to go around to the
other side
[22:40] the arch will still be there
tree will be gone and as you can see
[22:45] from the arch right there will probably
be a eight foot section of that existing
[22:52] cinder block stucco wall
[22:56] otherwise will match the
exact exact architecture of the building
[23:04] I was a carpenter for 20 years and ran a
cabinet shop for seven and I was project
[23:09] manager estimator on a commercial
business for another 17 years so I'm
[23:14] very familiar with
[23:18] you have the same style pitch on it same
yeah that is a two and a half 12 pitch
[23:24] on that
it's got 30 inch overhangs and they're
[23:28] exposed
and I'm working with the lumberyards
[23:32] right now to get a
engineered truss to have the same look
[23:38] what's existing there are Cedar two by
eights that are 27 feet long
[23:44] can't get those anymore so we're going
to go with some kind of a treated wood
[23:48] that will be the same height like the
two by eight you know the 30 inch
[23:55] overhang and then on the underside
there's like a AC type plywood exterior
[24:00] glue and will match that and we're not
going to drop the roof line we're going
[24:05] to keep it the same and we'll we'll sew
it together so that
[24:10] it matches
I'm going to do the work myself with my
[24:14] brother-in-law
[24:17] any further questions for Mr McMahon
thank you sir appreciate it
[24:27] thank you I have a motion from
councilman Patterson to approve this at
[24:31] variance for Mr McMahon do I have a
second
[24:35] second second from councilman Kelly
gentlemen are there any further
[24:39] discussion
[24:43] right all those in favor of granting
Mark McMahon's request for setback
[24:47] variance at 131 Holly Drive signified by
saying aye
[24:51] aye any opposed signify by saying nay
that variance is approved
[24:59] we are still
in session as the board of adjustment
[25:03] and the next item on the agenda for that
is Tom McIntosh is requesting
[25:10] setback variants
[25:14] at 2317 East E Street
Mr Estes could you give us some
[25:21] information on that please yes sir mayor
uh Mr McIntosh is asking for a variance
[25:26] to the allowable square footage for an
accessory structure
[25:30] he's allowed 700 in that zone of square
footage just to catch the council up to
[25:34] speed I don't know if we went through
this but on most zones and most Lots in
[25:38] town you're allowed 10 percent of that
square footage of that lot for any
[25:41] accessory structures
so if you want to get more square
[25:45] footage than allowed in this case it's
seven seven hundred they have to come
[25:49] and ask for a variance for additional
square footage which we're getting more
[25:52] and more of because everything we get is
bigger bigger and we want to store more
[25:55] so
uh Mr McIntosh is asking for an increase
[25:59] in that square footage to 1140 for a 440
foot square foot increase and he wants
[26:05] to put it on this lot right here
so he is totally uh remodeling this
[26:10] house
he has a little garage here he might
[26:13] want to speak to you about he spoke to
me since we did the variance application
[26:16] he said he might want to tear this
little garage down
[26:19] he basically wants to put
a structure similar to his neighbor to
[26:23] the north
he basically wants to put that structure
[26:27] right there is what he's asking
and again I've had no comments from the
[26:31] neighbors no complaints
staff would recommend approval
[26:38] all right is Mr McIntosh president yes
would you like to come up and
[26:45] answer any questions Council may have so
basically Council that's that's
[26:49] basically what that building would look
like on that lot
[26:52] and he might he had talked to me about
maybe removing this little smaller
[26:57] garage it sits there
that little yellow structure I don't
[27:00] know where my mouse went
[27:04] right there
so
[27:09] he wants to remove that building I think
don't you Tom I think
[27:13] oh he's going to leave it now so
all right does council have any
[27:18] questions for Mr McIntosh
I have one and just how far is the
[27:23] setback from the alley
it's going to be the standard 20 foot
[27:27] okay and just so you understand we don't
really allow anybody to get closer than
[27:32] 20 foot to the alleys because they stick
out in the alley so that's really we've
[27:35] had people wanting to do that we've
never really allowed it it's a bad press
[27:39] net to get going
for sure
[27:44] yeah it'll be 20 foot off the alley
right here
[27:47] yeah
it seems like when I drove by the actual
[27:51] property it seems like there's more
crowded than that picture would look at
[27:55] pardon me
they're actually actually drive by the
[27:58] property
it looks like it's a little more crowded
[28:01] than that it shows in that picture we
took trees out yeah they wanted to take
[28:05] those two trees out it opens it up in
the back
[28:08] and then a bunch of bushes along the
alley yeah those those aren't out yet
[28:12] but once you take it out it sits in
there it's tight there's no there won't
[28:16] be any grass yeah
[28:23] this is a 10 foot 10 foot wall structure
it is a little taller than most General
[28:27] garages so
what are you going to build it out of
[28:31] two by sixes I mean they can make the
same siding and stuff as the house is
[28:35] going to have yeah it'll have the LP
latport siding and insulated and heated
[28:41] he's currently replacing all the siding
on this house right now he's ripped it
[28:44] all down and sheeted it so we completely
gutted the house
[28:48] went through the whole thing so I plan
on doing the same thing with what we're
[28:52] doing here to
keep it heated keep it nice a good
[28:56] little shop
[29:02] Council any further questions for Mr
McIntosh
[29:07] thank you appreciate it
um there's an opportunity for public
[29:11] comments for this variants or against
this variance is there any member of the
[29:16] public that has public comments for or
against
[29:19] the council granting or
passing this variant
[29:26] I see none so I'll close this public
hearing regarding this setback variance
[29:30] at 2317 east east e
okay do I have a motion uh I would Mr
[29:38] Mayor I would move to approve the
setback variance for Tom McIntosh I have
[29:42] a motion from councilman victron to
remove or to approve the setback
[29:48] variants for Tom McIntosh at 2317 East E
Street do I have a second
[29:54] a second from councilman deal any
further discussion gentlemen Mr Mayor
[29:59] just to point clarification uh just for
clarification it's not a setback
[30:02] variance it's a square footage increase
variant okay
[30:07] reading directly off my agenda I was too
so the motion can reflect that language
[30:11] yeah
if that's amenable to you Mr deals with
[30:15] that
okay
[30:17] all right we've fixed that motion in
that second
[30:20] um
any further discussion gentlemen
[30:27] hearing none all those in favor of
granting this variance at 2317 East E
[30:32] Street signify but saying aye all right
any opposed signify for saying nay
[30:37] hearing no names that that variance at
2317 East E Street is approved and
[30:43] granted thank you
thank you and now Council where we will
[30:47] return to regular session again
next item on the agenda
[31:02] is resolution number
2023-8 this is a resolution authorizing
[31:09] submission of four Wyoming Homeland
Security Grant applications for the
[31:13] purchase of essential Vehicles equipment
and security fencing for the City of
[31:17] Torrington
[31:21] Emergency Management coordinator Chuck
Canyon present would you want to come up
[31:26] and
speak to this Mr Canyon
[31:33] Mr Mayor and Council Josh attorney at 18
to read the resolution first yes Mr
[31:38] Eddington would you read the resolution
thank you a resolution authorizing
[31:43] submission of four Wyoming Homeland
Security Grant applications for the
[31:46] purchase of essential Vehicles equipment
and security fencing for the City of
[31:50] Torrington
whereas the governing body of the City
[31:53] of Torrington desires to participate in
state Wyoming state of Wyoming Homeland
[31:56] Security grant program whereas the
government by the City of Torrington
[31:59] recognizes need for Central vehicles and
Equipment whereas the governing body of
[32:03] the City of Torrington realizes the need
for security to wastewater treatment
[32:06] plant whereas the governor embodied the
city of attorney generalizes that the
[32:09] grant will provide 100 funding for the
requested projects require no local
[32:13] match now therefore be resolved by the
government bond in the City of
[32:16] Torrington that Grant applications the
amount of 444 058 and seven cents be
[32:22] submitted to the Wyoming Homeland
Security for consideration of funding
[32:25] for the purchase of following essential
vehicles and Equipment turning to an
[32:28] emergency management vehicle 67
548.61 Torrington police specialized
[32:34] Mission vehicle 85 888.47
Carrington police non-lethal training
[32:40] equipment eleven thousand fifteen
dollars and forty nine cents parked in
[32:44] wastewater treatment plant fence project
279
[32:47] 605.50 it further resolved that herb
Dolby mayor of Torrington is here by
[32:51] designated as authorized representative
the City of Torrington act on behalf of
[32:56] the governing Monet and all managers
relating to this Grant application
[32:59] thank you Mr Eddington
mayor council I'll stand for questions
[33:04] if you have
questions regarding the projects
[33:09] I think the primary question I have and
want to make sure that we're clear on
[33:13] these are grants that are 100 percent
funded by the Department of Homeland
[33:18] Security
yes sir it is federal money passed
[33:21] through the state Wyoming office of
Homeland Security
[33:24] so there is no possible expense
for the only possible expense that can
[33:29] occur is if a project runs over which we
obviously know at bidding time if a
[33:36] project runs over the city can choose to
expend the extra money to take care of
[33:42] the project or walk away from the ground
[33:46] first two items the Emergency Management
vehicle and the police special missions
[33:51] yes sir
it seem like we already applied for
[33:54] those didn't we yes we did we've applied
for an emergency manager vehicle this
[33:58] will be the fourth time around it hasn't
been granted yet
[34:02] the specialized Mission vehicle for the
police department was applied for last
[34:07] year and not granted
it is one of those things where the what
[34:12] we call the senior advisory committee
which consists of
[34:17] staff at woes and state government
offices and other emergency managers in
[34:24] the state carefully analyze the amount
of money that is available
[34:28] the national priorities that are
dictated by FEMA and Department of
[34:33] Homeland Security and the state
priorities and they fund these projects
[34:37] accordingly
now when these are submitted is there a
[34:41] one two three four project a priority
listing yeah yes when a single agency
[34:47] submits the when a single agency submits
the funding they are asking us this year
[34:54] to prioritize it they're priority listed
on this was the non-lethal training
[34:58] equipment for the police department that
simulations training equipment
[35:03] um
that was Priority One EMC vehicle was
[35:06] priority two the specialized Mission
vehicle for the police department was
[35:10] number three and the wastewater
treatment plant was number four
[35:17] again those priorities we try to align
those with the priorities listed the
[35:22] national priorities listed in the notice
of funding opportunities
[35:32] I'm sorry what was that the board can
change the priorities and fun absolutely
[35:38] if you'd like to
[35:41] these figures for these items are they
bed basis or they just
[35:48] they just take a question again there's
something ticking in the background and
[35:51] I'm having trouble hearing you
the the prices of the of the items did
[35:56] you guys get a bids on them or did you
just look not bids we got quotes
[36:00] um
you you understand what's going on in
[36:03] the automotive industry
um the specialized Mission vehicle for
[36:07] the police department is a Ford Explorer
Max you know the Long Ford Expedition
[36:12] I'm sorry and there was ten thousand
dollar difference from base cost of the
[36:16] vehicle last year to this year
um and that also includes uh what we
[36:23] call Furniture in the vehicle storage
gun lockers uh that type of thing
[36:28] emergency vehicle lighting radio
equipment
[36:31] um
the whole package for that vehicle the
[36:35] Emergency Management vehicle is a
vehicle a Topper slide bed and emergency
[36:40] vehicle equipment
you know what I've already got radio
[36:44] equipment in the existing vehicle and
tools and all that stuff so it
[36:51] that's not listed in that vehicle so it
comes it was about eight thousand
[36:54] dollars more than the same vehicle last
year
[36:58] now the specialized Mission vehicle is
not an armored vehicle no sir it's a
[37:02] Ford Expedition a long one
no we're not not going to get any mraps
[37:09] out
can you or the chief explain its purpose
[37:13] to me I can sure try but Chief Johnson
would you like to address that
[37:20] surely we're looking for a vehicle that
will allow us to respond to a scene with
[37:24] all of the equipment that we would need
to have right there it would include a
[37:29] mix of tactical equipment a mix of
administrative equipment other gear our
[37:34] goal would be to be able to write a
search warrant right there on scene
[37:36] print it out have it ready to go have
all of our evidence collection equipment
[37:41] there
and have
[37:43] um bullet resistant Shields entry
equipment less lethal equipment all of
[37:49] the things that we would need to respond
to anything from a tactical incident to
[37:54] a in-depth search warrant would be our
goal in responding with that vehicle
[38:03] Chief Johnson with this vehicle if it
were to come to pass be assigned to a
[38:09] particular officer to use
assistant chief Pat Conley he supervises
[38:14] our investigations team and he also
leads a lot of our tactical effort so we
[38:20] would have him respond with that so that
he's always coming out anyways we never
[38:24] give him time off but we would always
want him to respond and he would have
[38:29] that equipment with him
now as far as the non-lethal training
[38:34] equipment we've already got some
non-lethal stuff right this is actually
[38:38] a little bit different from the
standpoint of utilization so this is
[38:43] simunitions equipment if you recall last
year we did our first Regional training
[38:47] Endeavor to really focus on an act of
threat in our schools we would really
[38:52] like to continue being more and more
aggressive on preparing for that type of
[38:57] a scenario be it in a school or anywhere
else because sadly we see those events
[39:01] happening more frequently across the
country
[39:03] best way that we can train police
officers for that type of a scenario is
[39:07] to put them in the most realistic
situation we possibly can
[39:11] and so the equipment that Chuck has so
graciously supported us in doing this
[39:16] Grant on is weapon systems that exactly
mimic what we use day in and day out in
[39:23] our police work and they rather than
shooting live ammunition they shoot wax
[39:28] pellets it's a it's a simulated round so
we can completely simulate force on
[39:33] Force training like we did last August
going into the schools the things that
[39:39] we focused on with this grant the only
equipment we currently have is handguns
[39:45] and our officers deploy with rifles and
so we'd like to also have a long gun
[39:50] system with simunitions so there are
offers officers can deploy as
[39:55] realistically as possible with a
shoulder shoulder fired weapon the other
[40:00] things that we focused on heavily in
this grant are protective equipment
[40:04] our simulated bad guys last year were
very gracious and kind in sacrificing
[40:09] their bodies for the effort part of our
training but they wound up with some
[40:14] pretty substantial polka dots if you
will as a result of being struck with
[40:18] the rounds and so we're outfitting for
two simulated bad guys to have much more
[40:24] protective equipment so that it's a more
comfortable experience for them as we're
[40:29] engaging in the training
[40:34] and again I want to ask
these requests are in line with the
[40:39] priorities
yes um
[40:42] for example the granting agency has
right the the national priorities coming
[40:47] down one of them is protection of soft
Targets in crowded places
[40:52] so when you talk about training for
force on Force situations which is you
[40:56] know you're talking about active shooter
training where the cops are running in
[41:00] somewhere to face an active shooter this
lines up very well with that National
[41:06] priority it also planning is always a
priority so in doing this and and
[41:12] establishing this Regional
Regional program we'll call it
[41:17] it's regional intent
we're lining up with planning priorities
[41:21] we're landing at lining up with
operational coordination because if you
[41:26] witnessed the
um if you witnessed the training last
[41:30] year what you would have seen was a
mixed group of a couple Torrington PD
[41:35] Officers a highway patrolmen and a
sheriff's deputy or a Wheatland cop
[41:40] sheriff's deputies we had Fort Laramie
police officer there Torrington Goshen
[41:46] County Fort Laramie or Wyoming highway
patrol because in a real incident in the
[41:52] instant that it happens the first
there's two guys on duty in Torrington
[41:57] and there's going to be deputies coming
in and it's important for them to be
[42:00] able to work as a team in these fours on
Force incidents so the training the old
[42:06] saying train issue fight fight as you
train
[42:09] so
[42:13] the wastewater treatment plant fence
project is 6225 feet of
[42:21] chain-length fencing to surround the
wastewater treatment plant that also
[42:25] falls underneath the community
resilience because what we're doing is
[42:29] we're deterring pedestrian entry
into
[42:33] um
the facility it's important to note that
[42:37] it would be easy for somebody to go in
there and tamper with equipment and
[42:41] damage the facility as well as damage
both physically or biologically damage
[42:47] the facility because if you interrupt
the biologic train that's happening to
[42:53] process that sewage
um
[42:56] we're going to be having problems
regrowing the bugs so to speak in the
[43:01] existing lagoons so all of these
projects are within the all of them meet
[43:08] multiple
planning operational coordination
[43:12] um saw protection of soft targets things
like that
[43:18] and I had a conversation with you there
have been deer fall in there dogs fall
[43:23] in there
tumbleweeds yeah I don't know if any
[43:28] people have fallen in there I hope not
because I mean it's would be unpleasant
[43:33] but you could it could be fatal yes it's
lined with the slick edges and you may
[43:38] not be able to get out of there if you
fall into there the lagoons are lined
[43:42] with a very heavy plastic that
um
[43:45] probably is quite greasy
[43:55] well we started the conversation about
Greece and the sewers all right
[44:00] gentlemen any further questions for
either
[44:04] Mr Canyon or chief Johnson
[44:08] thank you Mr Mayor thank you
there's no further discussion Mr Mayor I
[44:14] would move to approve resolution 2023-8
I have a motion from councilman victron
[44:20] to approve resolution number 20
23-8 authorizing submission for Wyoming
[44:26] Homeland Security Grant applications for
the purchase of essential Vehicles
[44:30] equipment and security fencing for the
City of Torrington do I have a second
[44:34] second from councilman Kelly any further
discussion gentlemen
[44:41] hearing none all those in favor of
passing resolution number 20 23-8
[44:46] signify by saying aye
aye any opposed signify for saying nay
[44:52] that resolution has passed
next item on the agenda is the landfill
[44:59] Consulting engineer five-year agreement
director of Public Works Harkins could
[45:05] you Enlighten us on that thank you Mr
Mayor and Council it's my recommendation
[45:10] that Council approve retaining invert
Miller Engineers under a five-year
[45:15] agreement beginning July 1st 2023 to
perform Engineering Services for the
[45:20] landfill and authorize the mayor and
clerk to sign
[45:23] basically I emberg Miller Engineers has
been the landfill consultant since
[45:28] August of 2013.
since that date there have been 13
[45:33] different amendments to the that
agreement
[45:36] uh
as I've listed on the memo there have
[45:42] been numerous items that they have
performed for the city but I think the
[45:45] most notable one is the design and
permitting of the cell 14 for landfill
[45:51] number two
some of the items that may be requested
[45:56] are listed further down on that memo but
two of the items that definitely will
[46:05] have amendments or the environmental
monitoring sampling and reporting for
[46:10] landfill number two which they have been
doing
[46:12] since 2013 they'll continue to do that
and preparing a feasibility study and a
[46:19] cost estimate
to relocate the Baylor facility out at
[46:23] the landfill
Council approved in last year's budget
[46:28] a certain amount of money for that work
to be done
[46:31] this basically would
proceed with getting a consultant to
[46:37] proceed with that work
[46:40] all these proposed amendments would be
[46:46] included in the agreement and obviously
would have to come before Council for
[46:51] your approval or denial as you see fit
[46:58] the agreement and the
resulting amendments would be funded out
[47:03] of the sanitation fund
if you have any questions
[47:08] so the the original contact was back in
2013 and it's had 13 amendments yes so
[47:14] it's quite cumbersome to review that
contract because you've got the basic
[47:18] contract and 13 minutes it's getting
very difficult yes
[47:23] and this is sort of Fresh Start same
same engineering firm same engineering
[47:28] firm they've been doing a really
terrific job
[47:32] for the city they've been really
responsive and they work well with the
[47:36] state's DEQ
we've had very little
[47:40] negative comments from DEQ regarding the
work that's been
[47:45] uh submitted to them and they're in
Casper right actually they're Statewide
[47:51] they have an office out of Cheyenne
office out of Casper uh Steve molt who
[47:57] was the uh individual that was mainly
working with us was out of Riverton
[48:03] but he is now retiring so we'll be
working both with the Casper and the
[48:09] Cheyenne offices
[48:13] and then I think you mentioned this but
as uh
[48:19] proposed work comes up the price is
determined in the council it has to come
[48:23] to before the council to approve that
work exactly the consultant will prepare
[48:27] an amendment to the agreement he'll
propose a price man
[48:33] lay out a scope of work of what he'll do
for that price well I'll bring that to
[48:38] the council and
present it to you and you'll make a
[48:42] decision
so I guess what I'm saying this this
[48:45] puts this engineering firm on tainer on
retainer so to speak that are available
[48:49] to be used for these purposes and
they're sort of locked in to help us
[48:53] when the need arises correct they're
making a commitment to be our basically
[48:57] our consultant for the next five years
[49:02] any further questions councilman from
and this is a whole new agreement it's
[49:07] not a Contin not an amendment right no
this is an all-new agreement
[49:12] starting fresh
because I didn't like all them other
[49:14] ones anyway
can we keep track of
[49:24] I have a motion from councilman
Patterson uh to approve this landfill
[49:30] Consulting engineer five-year agreement
do I have a second
[49:35] second from councilman deal any further
discussion dilemma
[49:41] hearing none all those in in favor of
approving the landfill Consulting
[49:46] engineer five-year agreement with
ingber Miller engineers
[49:51] signified by saying aye
aye and you pose signify by saying nay
[49:57] that landfill Consulting engineer
five-year agreement is passed
[50:04] next item on the agenda is number seven
the 2023 golf fees
[50:08] Mr Dent is here to answer questions
regarding that
[50:18] yeah you'd be mayor and Council evening
this is uh
[50:29] this was actually something that should
have been on the
[50:32] rake sheet and the fees earlier this
year when we approved those it got left
[50:37] off and it's essentially a punch card
that allows maybe an individual that
[50:42] doesn't get to play very often or
otherwise maybe wouldn't Buy
[50:46] the individual single pass at a lesser
fee
[50:50] so they're actually getting
12
[50:54] 18 hole rounds for the price of 10 and
there's
[50:58] 24 pheasants on it 310 dollars
[51:03] so there's 12 pheasants on there which
represent nine holes each so if they
[51:07] play in 18 holes we punch it twice so if
councilman victim wanted to play nine
[51:12] holes on that card he'd just punch it
once
[51:15] it's just an opportunity for somebody
who maybe can't even afford
[51:20] the pass or does it get the opportunity
to play or might not otherwise buy the
[51:24] pass itself so it's just something we
left off on the earlier rate sheet
[51:28] and it's my understanding that these
2023 golf fees that are listed except
[51:33] for the 18 hole punch card were approved
on November 15th of 2022 by Marion
[51:39] Council that's correct so the only thing
you're asking the Marion Council to do
[51:43] this evening is approve the 18-hole
punch card that is correct
[51:53] and question I have I mean how you've
had these before correct
[51:59] how how many get sold
we're still about 15 of them and uh
[52:04] probably
out of that 15 only one of them used all
[52:08] their punches
so oftentimes they're paying the full
[52:11] price but don't take advantage of all
the opportunities exactly and they know
[52:16] that going into it
and it's yearly good for one year one
[52:20] year January 1st of December 31st
[52:24] so if a guy buys one in April it's the
same thing runs out yep December 31st
[52:31] any further questions for Mr Dan
[52:36] Mr Mayor makes a motion to approve the
addition to the the 18 hole punch card
[52:41] to the golf news I have a motion to
approve for the 2023 golf fees
[52:48] of the punch card 18 hole punch card fee
at the price of 310 dollars each do I
[52:54] have a second
that's from councilman deal the website
[52:59] second from councilman Peterson or
councilman Patterson
[53:03] yeah any further discussion gentlemen
[53:09] all right hearing no further discussion
all those in favor of approving that
[53:13] 18-hole punch card at 310 dollars per
card signified by saying aye
[53:20] aye any post signify by saying nay
that
[53:25] 18 hole punch card at 310 dollars per
card is approved thank you mayor council
[53:31] thank you Mr Dan
[53:37] next item on the agenda agenda is item
eight a special event permit
[53:43] uh
Leanne Madison Braden
[53:48] and I'm not sure is it Connor or conour
okay uh with Goshen Economic Development
[53:56] are requesting a special event permit
for the summer concept series to be held
[54:00] in the city parking lot behind Vandal
drug on May 31 June 7 June 14 June 21
[54:07] June 28 2023 set up to begin at 3 pm
event to run 6 30 pm to 9 00 PM Chief
[54:18] Johnson can you speak to this
certainly the folks from Economic
[54:22] Development we had a number of
conversations about this event and
[54:26] looked at different options ultimately
they submitted the permit for the city
[54:30] lot 5 location
from the city perspective we look at
[54:34] that from the standpoint of if we can
manage the safety of pedestrians inside
[54:38] of that event
which we can at that location
[54:42] if the pending liquor permits or
catering permits would be issued and we
[54:48] appropriately manage the liquor
consumption and make sure that the
[54:53] liquor is contained at that location and
we can manage that at that location and
[54:58] then making sure that the noise can be
managed at a reasonable level
[55:02] so those are the three check boxes that
we looked at at that location
[55:07] I met with the team at Economic
Development and put together the
[55:11] agreement that I included with the
permit and I can let them speak to
[55:16] anything else or answer any other
questions that you folks might have
[55:19] related
[55:28] council do you have any questions for
chief Johnson
[55:36] yeah we've I mean the event morphed a
little bit last year from the standpoint
[55:41] of where we initially looked at stage
positioning and then moving that Trying
[55:46] to minimize noise impacts and make sure
that we're staying reasonable with that
[55:49] impact on other businesses particularly
the theater that's there we're going to
[55:54] do a little bit of a change this year
based on their recommendation for stage
[55:58] positioning where we're going to try to
twist that stage just a little bit so
[56:03] worse
still Facing East to minimize noise
[56:07] projection towards the theater the other
changes from last year last year we
[56:12] looked at closing the parking lot down
fairly early
[56:16] I can't I think it's two or three
o'clock in the afternoon which was
[56:19] difficult I mean when you're running a
special event you want it to be safe but
[56:23] you also want to minimize impact and so
closing that parking lot at that early
[56:27] stage of the day was uncomfortable and
made it more challenging so this year
[56:33] we're really kind of sticking to just
looking at six parking spaces they've
[56:37] figured out after setting up and taking
down the stage a number of times but
[56:41] they really can get everything they need
done in those six parking spaces which
[56:44] seems more reasonable to me so that's
kind of what the amendment was for this
[56:49] and the start time is a half hour later
this year than last year yeah that was
[56:54] The Proposal we for those of you who
attended last year the attendance was
[57:00] pretty sparse from six to seven because
the sun is baking right down onto that
[57:05] parking lot and if people were there
they tended to be hiding behind the
[57:09] restrooms where they got a little bit of
shade and so from the standpoint of
[57:13] minimizing road closure minimizing
impact in the parking lot and utilizing
[57:18] a better shade platform if you will
pushing it to 6 30 and then closing it
[57:23] up at nine
seems to be the most reasonable
[57:26] alternative
[57:29] and is a little bit different this year
I understand East a will remain open
[57:33] traffic on East day thank you I should
have mentioned that
[57:37] um so again the conversations and
proposals from Economic Development
[57:43] um
the business landscape has changed a
[57:46] little bit from last year last year
moose Mercantile was open throughout
[57:51] each concert and they had merchandise
for sale right there on East 21st and so
[57:57] it really couldn't utilize that space to
park
[58:00] other vendors or have any other traffic
coming in and out and so that was why
[58:05] east east a was closed from 21st to the
theater entrance for parking and since
[58:12] moose Mercantile is no longer present we
can move that traffic need up to East
[58:16] 21st and there's really not not a reason
to keep
[58:21] we stay closed
it can I mean there's a crosswalk right
[58:24] there
on the 20th and you stay we can protect
[58:29] pedestrian safety nicely to the north
with the closure of East 21st and that
[58:34] closure will not impact the vandals
alley
[58:37] nor will it impact the alley behind the
theater in the Elks for emergency
[58:41] response purposes
so the East 21st will only be closed
[58:47] between East day and the alley
we'll have a barricade anytime we have a
[58:53] kind of a dead end closure effect
we'll put a barricade out at Maine and
[58:58] East 21st the people can still get
around but we want to let them know
[59:02] before they pull in there that there's a
closure so we don't have any U-turn
[59:06] mishaps if you will so somebody could
come from Maine if they want to use the
[59:11] post office to drop off mail they could
still do that yep they could still get
[59:15] through there and still get to the
vandals alley or any of the other places
[59:18] that they needed to go but we would
leave that barricade just to give folks
[59:22] a heads up that they're coming into a
dead end
[59:24] and and I want to reiterate Chief
because I agree with you the city's
[59:29] primary interest is three things
can this be done safely
[59:34] and you've indicated that in your
opinion it can and it was last year can
[59:38] the alcohol be contained it was last
year and you've indicated that it can
[59:43] begin again this year and the noise is
not violative of our noise ordinance so
[59:50] those are the three primary things the
city government is concerned about yes
[59:54] sir and all those are squared away in
your mind
[59:57] I mean certainly the reasonableness of
noise is always open to discussion the
[1:00:03] way that we've tried to look at that is
what would we consider to be
[1:00:07] unreasonable from from any other
perspective and so the the agreement
[1:00:13] that we've looked at is the 80
I mean you can never have just a hard
[1:00:18] cut off of a certain number of decibels
because it fluctuates in that range
[1:00:23] but that would be the equivalent of a
semi truck parked in an alley I mean
[1:00:28] that's 80 to 85 decibels is a semi truck
that would be parked in an alley and I
[1:00:33] wouldn't come to uh I mean if if a
business owner made a complaint to me or
[1:00:38] a
regular residents made a complaint to me
[1:00:42] saying that there's a semi truck that's
idling and it's unreasonable in that
[1:00:45] time frame we wouldn't look at that as a
violation of ordinance or statute at
[1:00:51] that level
so I I mean that again that's a that's
[1:00:55] not an easy thing to look at with a hard
answer but from a reasonable
[1:01:00] reasonableness standpoint
I felt like that was a pretty reasonable
[1:01:03] way to look at it
and I noticed last year the event
[1:01:08] I'll use the word catered to all ages
and interests so to speak you had when I
[1:01:16] was there you had events for the kids
you had the music alcohol could be
[1:01:22] purchased by those legally able to do it
so you're the broad spectrum from
[1:01:28] children to people who want to sit and
have a drink and listen to music that
[1:01:32] might be a better question for Leanne or
Braden but my understanding of their
[1:01:38] proposal is that that would continue to
be I mean the goal that was presented to
[1:01:44] me as part of this permit was to have
very much of a family outing on a
[1:01:49] Wednesday night in Torrington
sure
[1:01:53] before I ask for comment from the public
speaking in favor and against
[1:01:59] any further questions from the council
for chief Johnson I have a question Mr
[1:02:05] Mayor on the decibels sir last year okay
what was I noticed you where I was a
[1:02:12] spectator in the event I noticed you
were taking some sort of reading
[1:02:16] so I wondered kind of recalling what
last year's event was like what was so
[1:02:22] we were
we stayed right in that 80 decibel range
[1:02:26] there were a couple of we had met with
the folks who managed the theater ahead
[1:02:30] of time and evaluated that and looked at
what essentially the reduction of noise
[1:02:35] was going to the theater and again
looking for that reasonableness standard
[1:02:40] so we a couple of times it was over and
we had to turn it down 40 to 45 range
[1:02:45] inside
which at that level it was
[1:02:49] I mean it would have to be very very
quiet in the movie to have that be an
[1:02:52] impact so that was the reason that we
went with that and I tried to stay on
[1:02:56] top of that as much as I possibly could
and you'll notice in the
[1:03:03] rating or in the agreement there
essentially we're laying out how that's
[1:03:08] going to be monitored is that needs to
happen at the beginning of the concert
[1:03:11] at the beginning of every band Midway
and then if there's ever a complaint and
[1:03:16] we need to address that
[1:03:20] then the other question would be the um
[1:03:25] the closure of certain parking spaces
yes sir
[1:03:31] was it just the spaces that would be
closed for the stage
[1:03:36] uh prior to the event or is it those I
don't know if you have this
[1:03:41] shaded in yellow
[1:03:51] so is this the one you're looking at yes
so this actually doesn't really depict
[1:03:55] this the parking spaces that would be
closed
[1:03:59] um this shaded yellow area is how the
event would be laid out at the time and
[1:04:03] again this is from Leanna Braden so
these little bit of fun misspeaking in
[1:04:09] any way shape with them the six parking
spaces that would be impacted are those
[1:04:13] there where the blue boxes that says
band because that's the space that they
[1:04:17] would need in order to get in and get
the stage set up this the stage again
[1:04:23] for my communication with them is kind
of a limiting factor related to this
[1:04:27] event because it takes and
extremely long time to set up and so we
[1:04:33] really are trying to limit that impact
and give them the freedom they need to
[1:04:39] set up without completely messing up
those parking the parking lot for every
[1:04:44] other business downtown
so
[1:04:48] my question more or less is those other
than for the stage no parking spaces
[1:04:53] have been reserved asked to be closed
that would be all they would be
[1:04:57] permitted to close would be those six
spaces right there where that blue box
[1:05:00] is
for band the rest of the parking lot
[1:05:03] will close at 5 30
um when the event was being set up
[1:05:07] so
is there a
[1:05:10] you know if somebody has parked there
after the closure is there a contingency
[1:05:16] well last year we had a couple of those
that we had to do a little bit of
[1:05:21] scrambling to go figure out who owned
the car and ask them to help out we
[1:05:25] didn't have any problems with it I mean
everybody
[1:05:28] the folks from Economic Development have
in their plan to come in ahead of time
[1:05:33] with flyers and make sure that
everybody's aware and they'll be doing
[1:05:37] poster boards I believe in the entrance
if that does happen we'll go contact and
[1:05:42] work with those folks I don't see that
being a towing situation because I think
[1:05:47] would be thin for that being a toe but
worse case scenario we might have to
[1:05:51] take the car off and then
utilize some officers to help get it out
[1:05:55] of there later when they uh when the
person returned to the car
[1:06:00] and
how many officers would be required to
[1:06:04] be present from you know beginning to
end I'm I'm willing to pitch in and help
[1:06:09] out
um
[1:06:10] each night the nice thing about this
location is that because the boundaries
[1:06:14] are really easy to monitor
um we're going to set up essentially a
[1:06:18] diagonal entrance with Staffing at those
entrances the Staffing will consist and
[1:06:23] this was part of the agreement with
economic development and so we'll have
[1:06:27] an entrance on the northwest and the
southeast that are staffed and signed
[1:06:33] for no outside alcohol dogs but you know
whatever else they decide to do for
[1:06:38] inside of their event but a person
standing at that location can actually
[1:06:42] see diagonally down two sides of the
event to monitor for alcohol potentially
[1:06:47] leaving the event and make sure that
people aren't sneaking in and out and
[1:06:50] then the person at the other
Corner can see down the other two sides
[1:06:55] so if we have at least one officer
inside monitoring it it's it's really
[1:06:59] not an issue I mean we had very little
problems last year and then we rotate
[1:07:04] our Patrol guys we did our best to have
two in there at all the all times
[1:07:08] um but we're just rotating Patrol guys
in and out
[1:07:12] making sure that that's covered and it
really didn't impact our staffing and I
[1:07:16] was I'm happy to kind of help out with
it so myself for Pat will be glad to
[1:07:20] assist
[1:07:23] I got a few questions but I don't know
who they're too
[1:07:26] Mr Mayor I wonder if it would be
pertinent to have
[1:07:29] the event well folks come up yes at this
point thank you
[1:07:35] I think we're done with Chief Johnson at
least momentarily
[1:07:38] um is is
it's Mattis
[1:07:45] mayor and Council thank you so
[1:07:49] much yeah I can answer any questions you
may have but um
[1:07:53] a couple things that weren't covered yet
we do plan on paying that event permit
[1:08:00] fee
um to the city council as well
[1:08:05] um
and we're starting the process now it's
[1:08:08] kind of early on but uh we really need
to get the fundraising aspect kicked off
[1:08:14] and and get that effort going as well so
that's kind of why we're in the process
[1:08:19] now
um last year this event was huge it was
[1:08:24] super successful
um we saw growth at each event
[1:08:29] throughout and yeah just wanted to make
a few tweaks to it we are holding it in
[1:08:36] consecutive weeks this year rather than
every other week
[1:08:42] um
we feel that
[1:08:47] um
it's just really beneficial for the
[1:08:49] community to gather
um
[1:08:54] part of the Main Street program is
making sure we have a place for our
[1:08:59] community to gather and that's where
this event stemmed from
[1:09:05] we also conducted a survey recently and
we had over 90 respondents and found
[1:09:11] that one of the main points was that
approximately 75 percent of the
[1:09:19] respondents liked the location of the
event
[1:09:25] um
and yeah with that
[1:09:28] stand for any questions
are the food vendors going to be allowed
[1:09:33] to open before the 6 30 time
[1:09:37] um I that hasn't been discussed just yet
but last year we kind of had them open
[1:09:43] as the event got started so I don't
foresee them
[1:09:46] opening prior to the event I'm just
thinking Some people might want to eat
[1:09:50] down there a little earlier than that
maybe something to think about yeah
[1:09:56] and then the food vendors that you do
have
[1:09:59] I imagine they're going to have to fill
out a catering permit for the city
[1:10:02] correct correct yes
[1:10:11] you mentioned a Main Street program yeah
tell me a little bit about that
[1:10:15] absolutely so uh I am the community
development director with economic
[1:10:21] development and part of my job is we are
a certified Main Street Community
[1:10:28] and it's a National Organization
um and I am
[1:10:34] new to the program
um I'm I've been
[1:10:38] at economic development for about eight
months now
[1:10:41] um actually headed to Boston to learn a
lot more about the Main Street program
[1:10:46] but it really is centered around
having a space for our communities
[1:10:53] together to
um
[1:10:56] help with economic development and and
um
[1:11:04] you know one of our
[1:11:07] main
um ideas is to provide events that are
[1:11:12] centered around Community involvement
[1:11:16] Community involvement in a downtown area
in a downtown area yes
[1:11:21] that that was my sort of what I was
going to ask as well that your
[1:11:25] participation in this Main Street
program
[1:11:28] requires you to have events in in the
downtown area is that
[1:11:36] I wouldn't say a requirement the
question would be have you looked at
[1:11:39] other areas to happen absolutely have
absolutely yeah um
[1:11:44] we have actually looked at holding this
event on Main Street
[1:11:49] um rather than the parking lot
the main issue
[1:11:54] with that was the timing it takes
Crossroads music three hours to set up
[1:12:03] this stage and get the sound set
and we cannot close Main Street down
[1:12:10] until five o'clock that puts our event
time start at eight o'clock
[1:12:16] so
um
[1:12:17] you know we've considered
[1:12:21] I shouldn't say that we
we've heard that people would like to
[1:12:27] have this in a park
but that's not that's not the whole
[1:12:34] idea behind the program
[1:12:37] it's to bring people
downtown
[1:12:41] to have a vibrant downtown community
[1:12:45] have you heard any comments about
increased foot traffic as a result of
[1:12:49] this or business there's one Main Street
um
[1:12:56] you know I
with these events bringing
[1:13:01] two to three hundred people downtown
you know they're gonna see
[1:13:06] storefronts you know whether they're
open or not
[1:13:10] um that could bring residual
business maybe not that particular day
[1:13:16] but somebody walking downtown may see
something that they want to head back
[1:13:21] for later
um Jackie Van Mark did mention that it
[1:13:26] brought business to her
store downtown
[1:13:30] so addicting
[1:13:34] well I was going to say since the
parking lot is closed during the event
[1:13:37] the place to park is going to be on Main
Street right exactly yeah yeah exactly
[1:13:45] so yep people are going to see their
storefronts and we have an amazing Main
[1:13:50] Street
and getting eyes
[1:13:53] on those businesses is
a priority
[1:13:58] but if it was on Main Street because
businesses wouldn't necessarily have to
[1:14:01] close
correct correct
[1:14:05] um the main issue with having it on Main
Street is the timing
[1:14:10] I mean I don't really familiar with it
what they do in Deadwood every year but
[1:14:15] they just close off the whole Main
Street a block of Main Street but all
[1:14:18] the vendors or they're all stores still
stay open right yeah but that's a two
[1:14:22] and three day event
so they close it off for two or three
[1:14:25] days okay
yeah
[1:14:30] my my question my next question would be
what is there a plan if the if the
[1:14:36] concept is to encourage a Vibrant
Community in the downtown business
[1:14:40] district yeah
what is the plan to encourage business
[1:14:44] and commerce yes to go along with the
event fantastic question
[1:14:50] um you know we're we're in the process
right now of all the planning and of
[1:14:52] course we have to find out whether or
not we can hold the event
[1:14:56] um but the plan is to go down and visit
with all of our Main Street businesses
[1:15:03] to to see what we can do
to
[1:15:07] make that happen
you know I've I've had a few ideas here
[1:15:12] and there um
[1:15:15] for example maybe we hold a scavenger
hunt where people have to in the
[1:15:20] incentive is to go into businesses prior
to the concert you know you spend
[1:15:27] a certain amount of money at three
different businesses downtown bring us
[1:15:32] your receipts we'll put you in a drawing
and we'll do some sort of giveaway
[1:15:36] just an idea off the top of my head but
um
[1:15:40] I really want to get downtown and visit
with our our Main Street businesses to
[1:15:44] see what that looks like for them and
you know if they have
[1:15:48] ideas for that as well and absolutely
we'll Implement those
[1:15:56] I know last year about this
the Third
[1:16:00] or fourth
time they edited in the parking lot
[1:16:04] there somebody brought in some tables
and picnic tables yes we're gonna do it
[1:16:08] is there any thought to that again yeah
absolutely
[1:16:11] um that was Western Province
um out of Yoder they actually brought
[1:16:15] those from Yoder to set up
donated them to the event which was
[1:16:20] fantastic and I do believe they are
planning on doing that again
[1:16:31] talk to me a little bit more about the
vendors
[1:16:35] the food and beverage vendors
do you have those lined up
[1:16:41] we do not as we just aren't certain
whether
[1:16:47] go forward which I'm hoping we do we
[1:16:53] our beverage vendors are local
businesses
[1:16:58] um last year we had the Bronco bar
cater one
[1:17:03] um
open Barrel Brewery
[1:17:07] we had the mint and 307 Bar and Grill
and am I forgetting
[1:17:16] um so local businesses
held those
[1:17:21] permits
got they each got a chance at one of the
[1:17:26] one of the evenings yeah
and then
[1:17:32] food
um
[1:17:34] 307 and the Bronco also came to
other events to sell food and we also
[1:17:43] had a couple food trucks available as
well
[1:17:46] which were a huge draw
[1:17:52] food trucks
are there food trucks local food trucks
[1:17:57] we don't unfortunately we don't have any
local food trucks
[1:18:01] um if anybody wants to open a food truck
let's do it
[1:18:12] so I guess Mr Mayor from my standpoint a
few things in your in your application
[1:18:19] have have I'm I'm relieved to see
the
[1:18:24] closure of the parking lot earlier last
year of course I wasn't on this Council
[1:18:28] then but the closure earlier in the day
in my opinion impeded business during
[1:18:34] that time especially those folks that
needed access to that parking lot so I'm
[1:18:38] I'm grateful to see that the closure of
the parking lot this time or proposal
[1:18:43] later
[1:18:46] um
my concern this time around
[1:18:51] or or not necessarily concerned but a
wish of mine
[1:18:55] is going back to what you said earlier
about
[1:18:58] creating this vibrant downtown community
[1:19:03] and I I want to see and or my wish I
should say that there is more
[1:19:09] involvement with our Merchants downtown
to the benefit from this concert if we
[1:19:16] can't have it on Main Street
and I don't I don't know the temperature
[1:19:19] of the merchants downtown whether they
would be in favor of that or not
[1:19:23] but if if the Showcase can't be directly
on Main Street
[1:19:28] somehow I would like to see those
Merchants be able to come off half a
[1:19:32] block
to Showcase themselves if that is the if
[1:19:37] that's the goal yeah absolutely and that
is
[1:19:40] open to anybody that is open to any
business
[1:19:45] in our downtown area
and and finally my my final concern
[1:19:54] I've talked with a business that is
directly affected by the event
[1:20:00] um
they're closed the first two days of the
[1:20:03] week
has there been given any thought to
[1:20:06] having this event on one of those days
yeah we we have we've considered every
[1:20:11] option so
are contracted with Crossroads music out
[1:20:15] of Scott's Bluff
they are the ones that also do this
[1:20:19] concert series with Scott's Bluff
bands on Broadway I believe is what it's
[1:20:25] called there's also one in Alliance
so the one in Scott's Bluff is held
[1:20:30] every
Thursday
[1:20:33] Alliance is Friday our options were
either Wednesday or Saturday
[1:20:39] um
we felt you know in visiting with some
[1:20:43] of our businesses downtown that
Wednesday night is kind of a slower
[1:20:48] night for them
and they were wanting us to do something
[1:20:52] to pick business up on that night
[1:20:58] so that's that is the main reason we
chose Wednesday nights
[1:21:02] I know it's hard to have it on Main
Street Bronco bar has a band every year
[1:21:07] that they close the street off for
right and that I believe is goes into
[1:21:12] later in the evening and chief might be
able to speak to that I don't have all
[1:21:17] the details on that but that is a later
closure and and frankly I'm probably the
[1:21:22] stick in the mud when it comes to
closing Main Street because of the
[1:21:25] impact I mean when we used to do third
Thursday trying to close down at 3 30 4
[1:21:30] o'clock in the afternoon I mean from a
safety perspective it's really not ideal
[1:21:35] and from an impact to businesses it's
also really not ideal so when we had a
[1:21:43] discussion about the potential for
having this event on Main Street that
[1:21:46] was the limiting factor was because of
the length of time it takes to set up
[1:21:50] the band I'm just not I mean
particularly we were talking the
[1:21:56] north of 21st and Main encompassing the
post office block which would be a
[1:22:00] pretty low impact but if we had to close
at four o'clock the post office doesn't
[1:22:05] close until 4 30 and we really would
have a pretty disparate impact on folks
[1:22:11] that are trying to live their daily
lives and it really is not a good safety
[1:22:16] setup to have a full parking
diagonal structure or excuse me full
[1:22:21] full parking diagonal spots up the block
and then try to empty that at 3 30 4
[1:22:27] o'clock in the afternoon while you're in
the middle of setting up an event it's
[1:22:31] just it's not a not a good safety move
[1:22:36] and was there a particular reason why we
chose this parking lot instead of the
[1:22:39] one like say over buying behind Arby's
as as I understand this slot was
[1:22:47] made to be a City events based when
those restrooms were
[1:22:53] constructed
[1:23:05] and also to speak to the closure of Main
Street another point there you know this
[1:23:11] is a family friendly event
um it's not a
[1:23:15] Friday night stay out all night event so
you know we want to bring in activities
[1:23:22] for kids
we got a lot of really good feedback in
[1:23:26] our survey that people want to see more
of that something more for the kids so
[1:23:31] we're gonna Implement that as well
that's a good point you're going to try
[1:23:36] to serve the whole Spectrum absolutely
absolutely
[1:23:45] and I think that was I wasn't obviously
on mayor I was not mayor back in the day
[1:23:49] when you did the four o'clock closing
but I think that was a hard lesson
[1:23:53] learned yeah that is not appropriate to
try to shut your downtown area at four
[1:23:57] there's a lot of business that goes on
between four and five
[1:24:01] this doesn't work to shut things down at
four in the afternoon
[1:24:05] I think that's a lesson that we've
Never Say Never but we've learned that
[1:24:09] that's not so good and I mean if we push
the concert start until if we closed at
[1:24:15] five and took three hours to set up
and then we tried to run a three-hour
[1:24:19] concert on a weeknight we're going to
have all these complaints coming out our
[1:24:22] ears for going to 11 11 p.m on a
Wednesday night I just
[1:24:27] can tell that story from a reasonable
standpoint
[1:24:36] Miss Mattis is up here representing the
organization that's asking for the
[1:24:39] special event permit thank you do
council do you have any further
[1:24:43] questions for Miss Mattis
thank you Miss Mattis thank you
[1:24:48] appreciate it
um
[1:24:51] I see there's a lot of people here this
evening so I would ask first of all
[1:24:56] anybody in addition to miss Mattis that
wants to speak in favor of council
[1:25:01] granting this specially about permit is
welcome to approach the podium
[1:25:09] yeah
no I have one
[1:25:17] thank you my name is Todd Werner last
year I was the emcee for the music on
[1:25:24] Main
I'm just a volunteer helper
[1:25:28] that thought this was a great
thing to do for the community
[1:25:33] um
did we learn a few things that we could
[1:25:36] improve on I believe we did
and we are you know we're working to
[1:25:40] make it better for the the community the
some of the local businesses
[1:25:45] um you know we we are still this is only
our this will be our second year
[1:25:50] hopefully
um you know and I think Chief Johnson
[1:25:55] has done a wonderful job making sure
that everything has been set up properly
[1:26:00] um I was in charge of uh going out and
and getting some of the um
[1:26:07] all right well actually I went I went to
the bars I worked for Budweiser out of
[1:26:11] Cheyenne
and um you know and I think that if you
[1:26:15] could visit with each one of the bars
that did the event
[1:26:19] I think that you will find that that
they did um well I mean it's none of my
[1:26:23] business to know exactly how they did
um but I think they did well and and I
[1:26:28] think that if any of you attended the
concerts
[1:26:32] um you know I think that it was it was a
very successful thing
[1:26:36] and you know as far as moving forward
and being able to get more of these
[1:26:41] businesses that could possibly be
involved we are all for that you know
[1:26:46] it's um something that
obviously it's a community event I mean
[1:26:51] I we had people you know I think that
part of the the good thing that the
[1:26:57] location that we had it in
is that people could walk you know we
[1:27:02] had a lot of people that that walked in
I mean I I was there I wasn't there as
[1:27:07] early as some of the folks were that set
up but I can tell you that
[1:27:10] we were kind of nervous because at six
o'clock you know we didn't have a lot of
[1:27:14] people there and there there weren't a
lot of vehicles around but then you know
[1:27:18] you could see people walking down the
streets side streets with their their
[1:27:21] lawn chairs and
you know and then yes the Western
[1:27:25] Province bringing in the benches I
thought was an awesome thing you know
[1:27:29] and and
um
[1:27:32] I think that if we could just continue
to
[1:27:36] um
have as many people as we did show up
[1:27:39] last year I I think that and I think
Chief I think you mentioned something
[1:27:43] 300 plus people
you know and I think Chiefs probably
[1:27:49] pretty accurate you know coming from a
bigger city he probably knows numbers
[1:27:52] just by kind of looking out over a crowd
I've been in this community for 52 years
[1:28:00] and I will tell you that this was a very
successful thing I said you know Goshen
[1:28:05] County Fair is a very great thing for
this community
[1:28:08] what we did in that parking lot
it really was a great thing and I would
[1:28:13] love to see it continue
you know and to talk to the with the
[1:28:17] bands that we got the gentleman from
Scottsbluff does an amazing job for us
[1:28:21] and he can do that for us
at a little cheaper price because then
[1:28:27] he coordinates with you know like Leanne
said with
[1:28:30] Scott's Bluff and with Alliance
and then we get a better deal and we
[1:28:36] still get great music
and and you know I we'd love to have
[1:28:41] local vendors come in we are open to any
of that I can guarantee it
[1:28:46] and I'm talking food vendors I'm talking
whoever
[1:28:50] um so I mean that that's something that
you know and if we do get to move
[1:28:54] forward with this
I I we can expand this and make it a
[1:28:58] better a bigger and a better event then
maybe someday we have to move it to a
[1:29:02] better a bigger
venue and that would be you know great
[1:29:06] I mean we do have some things in mind
and I won't get into those because I'm
[1:29:09] not technically on the committee
um or I am but not with the economic
[1:29:14] development you know I'm part of this
small community or committee but I just
[1:29:19] want to say that you know I just think
that it's been a wonderful thing for the
[1:29:22] community and
I thank you for letting me speak
[1:29:27] thank you sir
[1:29:40] would you just let us know your name for
the clerk absolutely
[1:29:45] for the record great uh thanks parent
Council I'm Scott prusia just a local
[1:29:50] business owner and past president of
Economic Development I know one of the
[1:29:56] things that's been brought up is what
we're trying to do with the Main Street
[1:30:00] program through
Goshen Economic Development and what's
[1:30:04] that what what is that doing for our
downtown businesses
[1:30:09] um
since coveted pandemic we track as I'm
[1:30:13] sure the city does as well what sales
tax receipts are doing and throughout
[1:30:19] the covid period Goshen County was one
of the highest performing if not the
[1:30:23] highest performing state in
Wyoming as far as growth and sales tax
[1:30:30] revenue I will say this year
we are on the edge of a recession but at
[1:30:37] the same time I look at our sales tax
receipts which the bulk of that comes
[1:30:42] from retail sales up and down main
streets in each of our communities sales
[1:30:47] tax is up over 15 percent this year over
last year
[1:30:51] and not to say that you can put a finger
on exactly what's driving that I think
[1:30:57] there are several factors I think we
have great Merchants I think we have a
[1:31:01] good support system from Economic
Development and our Main Street program
[1:31:05] as well as our residents and the 15
percent that we are up is leading the
[1:31:12] state as far as sales tax receipts those
sales tax receipts go to each community
[1:31:16] and they go to the county those are
pretty sizable increases on a
[1:31:21] year-over-year basis and I think that's
something that again you can't put your
[1:31:26] finger on exactly what's driving that
but we're doing something right here and
[1:31:31] I think what has happened in trying to
drive Main Street and this is one of the
[1:31:36] events that helps to do it I think has
been very successful and a testament to
[1:31:41] what's being done
[1:31:44] thank you thank you Mr pressure
[1:31:50] anybody else out there that wants to
speak for
[1:32:04] hello mayor and Council would you please
state your name for the record
[1:32:08] sure sorry
my name is Tiffany Leslie I own the
[1:32:11] Bronco Bar and Grill house and I would
like to speak in favor for our community
[1:32:16] night
for many years I have been asked why I
[1:32:20] don't do a family night on Main Street
and one of the reasons is is
[1:32:26] I'm one person live versus trying to get
all the bands from different towns the
[1:32:33] whole Community involved with Goshen
economic they actually took on that
[1:32:37] responsibility to give the community
something that me as business owner on
[1:32:42] Main Street can do
and I think that's really awesome that
[1:32:46] they do that and I have had so much
positive feedback just hearing it in our
[1:32:50] community since the first one that we
have had of how many families actually
[1:32:55] enjoyed going out listening to a band
getting home early enough so that way
[1:33:00] kids could go to bed everything else
like that I know a lot of the businesses
[1:33:05] in my area on the Block have definitely
benefited from it obviously myself meant
[1:33:10] open Barrel because we did some of those
catering for them and that's just extra
[1:33:15] revenue for us during the summer time
when we are slow the foot traffic had
[1:33:19] picked up I know during the actual event
itself
[1:33:23] so our my restaurant actually had a lot
of foot traffic come in it as well
[1:33:27] during that time even with me catering
and the food truck so that helped us out
[1:33:31] tremendously on Wednesday nights when
we're pretty slow during that weekday
[1:33:37] so I just like to speak in favor of it I
think it's awesome that Goshen economic
[1:33:41] has put this all together for our
community
[1:33:44] when these events took place last year
out in front of your business
[1:33:49] was that just full yes parking was just
full on parking was full and you could
[1:33:55] actually see the foot traffic I had
employees calling me hey is it really
[1:34:00] busy down there because we can see them
walking back and forth
[1:34:06] I don't know if you took a look in the
back parking lot behind your business
[1:34:09] was that full yes a lot of people do
park in that Arby's parking lot and then
[1:34:13] walk over to the other parking lot as
well as on Main Street
[1:34:21] you said you had you said you had an
increase in foot traffic yes was that
[1:34:25] from the from the
Main Street bands or the that was the
[1:34:30] same nights that the main street was
doing their bands yes because of all the
[1:34:34] parking that is behind Arby's then they
continuously walk down towards Main
[1:34:38] Street towards that back parking lot by
Vandals
[1:34:47] thank you thank you Miss Leslie
[1:34:54] all right anybody else out there who
wants to speak for granting of a special
[1:34:59] friend
[1:35:05] seeing then I would open it up to
anybody who wants to speak against the
[1:35:10] granting of this special event
[1:35:26] Miss Flanagan I know we know you I know
just please stay here Marie Flanagan
[1:35:31] owner of the theater
um I wanted to just speak
[1:35:35] not in opposition of the event
I think the event is absolutely fabulous
[1:35:41] it's the location
um Chief Johnson
[1:35:45] um was on a constant phone call with my
husband an electrician
[1:35:50] who knows exactly about decibels that is
part of his field
[1:35:56] um we were
unfortunately
[1:36:00] impacted by the sound
he said he referenced a semi truck
[1:36:08] that is not correct
we had Jurassic Park playing in as you
[1:36:11] can all think
dinosaurs are not quiet
[1:36:15] and we have people leaving during the
movie because the sound from the concert
[1:36:20] was so loud
[1:36:23] um and I am very thankful that the
Bronco bar had foot traffic I think
[1:36:28] that's fabulous when we try to do an
event we try to benefit all of our
[1:36:32] businesses because communication between
the businesses is absolutely vital
[1:36:38] um we have not been
um
[1:36:42] spoken to about the
events for this event anything that has
[1:36:48] to do with the event has not been spoken
to me about
[1:36:51] so learning that it's five consecutive
days
[1:36:54] we will lose about five five hundred
dollars a day so that's twenty five
[1:36:58] hundred dollars plus we will lose
um
[1:37:01] my staff will lose the time so that's
about five hundred dollars
[1:37:06] on my staff losing
um their pay
[1:37:11] um
yogalicious will also be impacted by the
[1:37:15] loss of revenue from no one coming into
the theater last year graciously First
[1:37:20] State Bank did sponsor tickets for
students or children to come into the
[1:37:26] theater and watch the movies
we had 10. from four events that
[1:37:31] happened we had 10 students 10 children
come in for the movie Jurassic Park
[1:37:38] um
if that tells you anything the foot
[1:37:41] traffic was not coming to the theater at
all
[1:37:44] we didn't have anything to go off of
because we've we had just purchased the
[1:37:48] theater and we were just trying to get
going we we had nothing to go off up we
[1:37:52] were not spoken to about planning doing
anything promoting nothing it was we are
[1:37:58] doing this and we're doing this
um we don't know anything about a Main
[1:38:03] Street group we've never been approached
we're a business this is what we do
[1:38:08] we are here for the community
as I've stated many many times and I
[1:38:13] like I said I love the event and I'm
it's I've really was very saddened to
[1:38:17] hear that there are people
stating that the theater wants this
[1:38:22] event to be shut down that is absolutely
100 percent not true
[1:38:27] I love events I love doing things for
the community that's why we did a ladies
[1:38:31] night we have a kids night planned we
have a couple's night this Friday which
[1:38:35] we'll talk about in a little bit
um
[1:38:38] but we try really hard to do things for
the community itself
[1:38:43] we try really hard to plan things with
other businesses
[1:38:47] because I want to make sure I'm doing
what's best for not only the theater
[1:38:51] because that's the first and foremost
but that I'm impacting the other
[1:38:55] businesses if I can do something with an
event then I'm going to try with
[1:39:01] Jurassic Park we included Torrington
office supply we included um
[1:39:06] Heartland embroidery we included
um Wagner's floral they provided all of
[1:39:12] the floral arrangements inside to turn
it into a Jurassic Park Style
[1:39:18] um we had a scavenger hunt for eggs that
the kids got to keep and prizes were
[1:39:23] given out from our Main Street
businesses I also wanted to include
[1:39:29] businesses that are not on Main Street
because that's important as well
[1:39:34] um we were impacted obviously by the
foot traffic by the noise and
[1:39:38] unfortunately we had
some very unhappy patrons about the
[1:39:44] closing of the parking lots and they
used um some very
[1:39:48] heavily choiced words against me
um that they blamed me for doing it and
[1:39:56] that's pretty tough when someone comes
in screaming at you so I would highly
[1:40:02] encourage that yes do we need this event
yes
[1:40:05] but this location is not a proper
location if it's going to shut down a
[1:40:10] business that's already closed the day
before
[1:40:12] two days before
we have those availabilities
[1:40:16] but if I have to shut down another day
which is going to have to happen because
[1:40:21] there's no
[1:40:24] there's no way we can avoid it
um
[1:40:29] then that just puts in to the community
that we're closed yet another day and
[1:40:33] when you start closing your business day
after day after day
[1:40:37] they stop coming
and from my perspective
[1:40:41] I don't want to see the theater close
that's why we bought it we wanted to
[1:40:44] open it for the community
we have taken a huge hit we've not had
[1:40:48] any support
from
[1:40:51] Economic Development besides the five
thousand dollar Grant
[1:40:55] that was it I had to fight to get
advertising
[1:41:01] from the membership that I was given
so if there's anything I want this event
[1:41:06] to go through just not behind the
theater because it does hurt us
[1:41:10] detrimentally
[1:41:15] thank you Mrs Flanagan
are there any others who want to speak
[1:41:20] against the granting of the special
event for men
[1:41:31] my name is Taya Carrell my wife and I or
my wife Kelly and I own Heartland
[1:41:35] embroidery on Main Street a lot of my
questions and I'm believe me I'm not
[1:41:40] against it at all I am all for it I kind
of echo what Marie said if it is in the
[1:41:46] best benefit for all businesses not
excluding some businesses it started out
[1:41:52] on the Main Street we had some
discussions about that we got everything
[1:41:56] worked out to proceeded along fine then
they moved it behind
[1:42:00] a bunch of my questions were answered
Shane asked a couple of them
[1:42:05] why why not look at Monday and Tuesday
when the theater is closed why not look
[1:42:10] at a city park Chief Johnson even
brought it up a lot of people not being
[1:42:13] there on the hot concrete when it's six
o'clock might not put it in the park or
[1:42:18] you got shade go to Jordan Park you're
right next to the pool you got shade you
[1:42:22] got a playground you got the ball fields
you got basketball hoops you want to
[1:42:26] talk about doing it for the community
there's all sorts of stuff there for the
[1:42:28] kids to do if it's on the grassy area
um
[1:42:32] but like I said these are a lot of
things that a lot of questions were
[1:42:36] answered tonight and Leanne did a very
good job answering a lot of them why we
[1:42:40] couldn't do this but at the same time
these were also questions that could
[1:42:44] have easily been solved by coming and
seeing us like Marie said we have not
[1:42:49] heard nothing from Economic Development
about their proposed plan of what
[1:42:53] they're doing on these five nights
tonight is the first night we were
[1:42:56] hanging or hearing about it we've got
three wonderful ladies that work for us
[1:43:00] at Heartland Kelly and I are barry
seldom there because they run the
[1:43:04] day-to-day operations
we contacted them just to make sure that
[1:43:08] we are all on the same page and they
said the exact same thing nobody has
[1:43:11] stopped by and talked to us about it
if economic development is actually
[1:43:15] about local businesses and building this
community they need to be better in
[1:43:21] contact we are literally right next door
to that
[1:43:25] we're right next to 21st of May
stop by and tell us give us a plan but
[1:43:30] to show up here and ask you guys to vote
on it to vote for the permit
[1:43:36] if it passes tonight without any other
further discussion to us as a business
[1:43:41] owner it looks like you know what we've
already passed it this is what we're
[1:43:45] doing without any information or any
comment from other local businesses
[1:43:51] it just doesn't seem right that they
would put the horse in front of the cart
[1:43:54] and I understand that Leanne said that
they were going to come around and try
[1:43:57] to drum up some support why wouldn't you
drum up some support before you show up
[1:44:01] and ask
for a permit to be voted on
[1:44:05] and I know this this has nothing to do
with you guys this is something that we
[1:44:09] should be discussing with economic
development but since they don't come by
[1:44:13] it's kind of hard for us to discuss that
anyway thank you for your time thank you
[1:44:17] Mr Crow
[1:44:21] any others wishing to speak against this
special event permit
[1:44:35] I don't see any takers I just want to
say this um
[1:44:41] as the government
the City of Torrington are three primary
[1:44:47] items of concern are safety
alcohol containment because alcohol is
[1:44:53] going to be served in the noise
hey that's primarily my concern as mayor
[1:45:03] how Economic Development communicates
with the local businesses and how the
[1:45:08] local businesses communicate with
economic development that's not my
[1:45:13] purview my job
one advantage I see to extending the
[1:45:18] time for this and allowing anybody who
wanted to speak is this
[1:45:22] Mr Krell I think you said it well
maybe there needs to be more
[1:45:26] communication I don't know I heard your
side of it I didn't hear anybody else's
[1:45:31] side of it and I know there's always six
sides to any story
[1:45:34] but maybe this is a it was an
opportunity for the pros and the cons to
[1:45:40] get together in this forum
and sort of let everybody know where
[1:45:45] they where they stand and why they stand
and maybe I'm or I'm hopeful that that
[1:45:50] maybe that communication with the pro
with economic development the private
[1:45:54] businesses can increase and be more
productive
[1:45:58] but again I just want to reiterate as
mayor I see the primary City's primary
[1:46:03] interests as is it safe can we contain
the alcohol
[1:46:08] and is the noise going to be
shoot
[1:46:12] and then I will allow any other member
of the council to speak to the issue
[1:46:19] Mr Mayor
economic development is
[1:46:25] very important to any Community the
lifeblood of any community
[1:46:30] and that
that they're attempting to do something
[1:46:37] at least in one case has increased some
foot traffic but that results in
[1:46:42] increased sales I'm not sure but
my son lives in Lander they have the
[1:46:48] lender live series there which is indeed
in the city park but they do have a very
[1:46:53] interested person who spent a lot of
money himself in building a stage
[1:46:59] for the park
and so there are lots of things going on
[1:47:03] there there are lots of other
communities that do that but
[1:47:06] regardless of all the other queries
whether it's the right place or the
[1:47:12] wrong place
just like to speak in favor of this as
[1:47:17] an event I think
[1:47:20] thank you councilman deal
Mr Mayor I would I would Echo some of my
[1:47:26] colleagues statements as well that I
think the event is a good event
[1:47:30] we don't have a lot of entertainment in
this town in this County
[1:47:35] which is unfortunate but I think this is
a good step in that direction
[1:47:39] to achieve that and bring about some
more
[1:47:42] quality of life
for residents of the community at Large
[1:47:49] it's difficult for me I wish that I wish
the
[1:47:53] subject wasn't contentious
I I still have my concerns about the
[1:47:59] location
uh I I find benefit
[1:48:03] in a park myself but nevertheless
uh
[1:48:09] I I do think what we've heard here
tonight
[1:48:13] uh
I think there could be some more
[1:48:16] lines of dialogue happen between
Commerce and uh
[1:48:23] other parties for the event just to
alleviate some concerns and and
[1:48:28] hopefully find a path forward that is
beneficial to everyone
[1:48:35] um
I don't know uh perhaps I understand
[1:48:39] that Economic Development has to have
some uh far in advance planning for this
[1:48:44] type of event
maybe there's still some things that
[1:48:48] could be discussed amongst them and and
affected businesses I don't know
[1:48:53] um
but I I would like to see
[1:48:58] a cohesive
sort of
[1:49:01] understanding amongst everybody involved
that that arrives at the betterment
[1:49:07] and uh
some somewhat of a positive
[1:49:14] finality to the to the issue
I don't know how that all works but that
[1:49:19] goes along with some of my comments I or
questions I asked earlier about
[1:49:23] involving downtown business uh during
those hours that are
[1:49:29] most most Merchants are closed and uh
also trying to impact or lessen the
[1:49:37] impact excuse me less than the impact on
those affected businesses
[1:49:43] that we've heard from tonight so
supportive of the event my mind is still
[1:49:49] turning on approval or denial of the
permit but
[1:49:53] um
communication is always good as my
[1:49:58] communication instructor once
instructed me so
[1:50:02] thank you Mr Mayor
I would just like to make a comment that
[1:50:06] I attended every one of the concerts
last year and thoroughly enjoyed each
[1:50:10] one of them except for the last one on
the rain in the wind blew
[1:50:15] as far as the noise of the theater this
the first time I've heard about it
[1:50:20] and I would ask
did anybody else I mean mister
[1:50:26] Chief did you go inside the buildings
there the noise or anything
[1:50:30] many times yes was it as bad as
well I
[1:50:36] mean I guess I
can't relate exactly to what Mrs
[1:50:41] Flanagan said the the instances that I
was in I tried to be proactive and
[1:50:46] reactive to that typically if the movie
was absolutely silent I could just hear
[1:50:54] the music but again maybe there was a
loud burst of sound or something that
[1:50:58] had caused some of the problem I did not
hear of the concerns that she stated
[1:51:02] related to folks walking out of the
movies but I did get a couple of phone
[1:51:06] calls where they had told me that
someone had come up to the window and
[1:51:10] said that they could hear the music and
we tried to be irresponsive to that and
[1:51:14] there were a couple of times when the
volume had crept up or the band had
[1:51:18] changed and that was too loud and we had
to make accommodation so I I'm sorry I
[1:51:23] can't provide a complete answer in terms
of
[1:51:26] whether or not that happened I can't
tell you the experiences that I had in
[1:51:30] the theater the movie had to have been
incredibly quiet in order for
[1:51:35] be heard
[1:51:40] you changed the location of the band
stance I'm assuming that's trying to
[1:51:43] alleviate that problem
yeah sorry
[1:51:47] um this will be the third time we've
made an adjustment our first attempt was
[1:51:51] a disaster
he had a theory that we would set the
[1:51:56] band to the east of the theater and
project South
[1:52:00] with the thought that that noise would
kind of go past the theater without
[1:52:05] having an impact and essentially it
drove the noise right into the back of
[1:52:09] the theater and it was totally
unsuccessful we had a very hard time
[1:52:13] making those decibels
ratings to be reasonable and it was not
[1:52:18] a not a good way to have it set up we
transitioned to the band being on the
[1:52:22] west side of the parking lot and Facing
East and then we utilized the food
[1:52:26] trucks to block sound and with that we
had pretty good luck I mean we were able
[1:52:32] to consistently keep that down in the 80
to 84 range
[1:52:39] like I said I I really enjoyed the
concerts I hope we can continue them but
[1:52:44] it sounds like it needed to work out a
few little problems but hopefully we can
[1:52:48] get that done too
Mr Mayor I wonder if Leanne if you could
[1:52:55] answer a question for me or anybody from
Economic Development
[1:52:58] is the event contingent upon the
approval of the permit tonight
[1:53:12] Mr shedner and you may come up here if
you
[1:53:16] Facebook
[1:53:26] and if you will state your name for the
record my name is Kelly setner
[1:53:31] my history would lead me to believe that
sound travels out from a speaker is that
[1:53:37] correct
I'm no sound in his engineer so
[1:53:43] I would think it goes out from the
speaker so my my question is if you
[1:53:47] really want to
the sound lore why wouldn't you put the
[1:53:50] band on the North side or on the yeah on
the north side of the movie theater with
[1:53:55] all the speakers projecting out so the
sound's traveling out in a way
[1:53:59] when it was pointed South obviously it
was going right towards the theater
[1:54:04] any other location you're going to get
sound going towards the theater my
[1:54:08] experience has been a few and I ran many
dances back in my days in Hershey but
[1:54:13] you're you're this the quietest part
of a band is behind the speaker system
[1:54:20] so
[1:54:23] for my two cents I think somebody should
investigate that and maybe we could
[1:54:28] reduce the sound even further
what I had that same question myself as
[1:54:33] I look at the diagram of the potential
setup here
[1:54:37] the band
is on the south
[1:54:41] West corner of the parking lot
pointing Northeast
[1:54:47] so it'll be hitting the courthouse and
off into that area for the most part and
[1:54:52] then the food trucks are east of it and
north of it to keep it from going
[1:54:58] directly east that just makes sense to
me that Sound projects out
[1:55:03] if you don't want sound
put the band on the north side of it and
[1:55:07] you won't have near as much in my
opinion and I'm certainly somebody
[1:55:10] that's smarter than I could figure that
one out but
[1:55:14] food for thought
thank you Mr I guess one of the
[1:55:17] suggestions to move the speakers like
that would be
[1:55:20] try it this way the first one if done
work then you know the speakers the
[1:55:24] other place for the next one
[1:55:28] hey there's a there's a little bit of a
space issue there in terms of
[1:55:33] needing to keep that alley open
that's immediately north of the theater
[1:55:39] I'm not against trying that but it does
create I mean one of the things that you
[1:55:44] sometimes feel off of the back of the
stage haven't walked around a lot
[1:55:47] there's a fair bit of bass
that moves off of those speakers I mean
[1:55:52] they're ported in the back so you may
not have quite the decibels but you do
[1:55:55] tend to have a fair bit of bass and you
also because of the size of the space of
[1:56:00] the stage and the need to keep that
alley clear and the amount of equipment
[1:56:05] that goes behind the stage we end up
compressing pretty close to the
[1:56:10] bathrooms and so we're pretty much right
on top of the bathrooms and then sound
[1:56:15] is reflecting off of the bathrooms and
we've got a smaller space there I'm not
[1:56:20] against trying it if that's I mean it's
it's not my event it's economic
[1:56:25] developments event and if they feel like
that's something worth trying I'd be
[1:56:28] happy to support that and look at it it
would alter what we'd have to do to
[1:56:32] impact parking and different things
but part of what they have submitted is
[1:56:39] an understanding that we can try some
different things to mitigate that noise
[1:56:43] and make it as least impactful as
possible as I look at the diagram it's
[1:56:49] in there
band is located on the southwest corner
[1:56:55] and it looks like it's pointed Northeast
so
[1:57:00] if you're correct about the base then
the base is not going to go into the
[1:57:05] theater building it's going to go
across the alley and down the alley if
[1:57:12] it's set up the way it's configured here
but that was the intent of discussion
[1:57:17] that we had
[1:57:21] correct
and Mr councilman Kelly just pointed out
[1:57:25] last year it was on the West Side the
alley and almost pointed due east right
[1:57:29] first one
we're over here
[1:57:41] well certainly that would be my hope
that whatever can be done to mitigate
[1:57:46] the noise that's
affecting the theater should be
[1:57:51] looking to go
yeah Mr Mayor I agree there are a couple
[1:57:57] of us up here that had some involvement
in radio too and have been into dealing
[1:58:02] with maybe we should be asking you and I
can I'm not an acoustic engineer but I
[1:58:07] can tell you that the vast majority of
sound is projected intentionally through
[1:58:10] the speed
toward the front however there is this
[1:58:14] thing called feedback so you do get some
coming back the other direction
[1:58:20] but that is the best of of all worlds I
would think
[1:58:25] corner
the way it's set forth in this diagram
[1:58:35] all right
we've been at this a while
[1:58:39] I would
entertain a
[1:58:42] motion uh to prove of the special event
permit item number eight on the agenda
[1:58:50] the request by
Leon Madison Braden Connor with Goshen
[1:58:57] County Economic Development
their special event permit for the
[1:59:01] summer concert series do I have a motion
[1:59:06] make a motion to approve
I have a motion from councilman deal to
[1:59:10] approve this special event permit do I
have a second
[1:59:16] I have a counter a second from
councilman Patterson
[1:59:20] is there any further discussion Dylan
[1:59:29] hearing none I would call for a vote all
those in favor of approving the special
[1:59:35] event permit allowing Economic
Development to put on this special event
[1:59:40] for the summer concert series signified
by saying aye I
[1:59:46] any opposed signify by saying nay nay
there is four eyes and one may the eyes
[1:59:54] have it so the special
[1:59:59] councilman victory nay yes
Four Eyes one nay the special event
[2:00:05] permit is passed thank you
[2:00:10] next item on the agenda is a catering
permit or Julie harshberger with 307
[2:00:18] Sports Bar and Grill
requesting a catering permit for the
[2:00:22] Torrington Cinemas couples night out or
Friday March 24th 2023 from 5 to 11 pm
[2:00:37] Johnson can you speak to that
certainly
[2:00:40] um this is very similar to the ladies
night that they did at the theater
[2:00:46] a month ago
um we had no concerns with that this is
[2:00:51] a very safe Pleasant event the way that
Mrs Flanagan and Julia run it is pretty
[2:00:58] risk-free there's nobody under 21 in the
theater or at least nobody under 21
[2:01:03] that's a patron of the theater they
check IDs at the door the services for
[2:01:09] upstairs and downstairs so we don't have
to worry about keeping anybody separate
[2:01:12] I'm the only people who are underage in
the theater are employees who manage the
[2:01:18] ticket sales and yogurt sales
and they're monitored by an adult so
[2:01:24] really don't have any concerns it's uh
recommend approval and seems like a good
[2:01:29] event
thank you Chief councilman do you have
[2:01:32] any questions for chief Johnson about
this request for a catering instrument
[2:01:37] s
I'm sorry sorry
[2:01:40] I just wondered if Council had any
questions for chief Johnson
[2:01:44] I don't see any Mrs Flanagan
I just wanted to let you know that with
[2:01:49] our ladies night event it was a huge
success not only for my business but for
[2:01:54] the entire downtown our entire downtown
we wanted to make sure that we invited
[2:01:58] everybody that was in any crevice and
everything that we could possibly find
[2:02:05] the women of our community showed up big
time and um not only did they show up
[2:02:11] for a ladies event but they showed up
for the rest of the businesses downtown
[2:02:15] and even though it was after the retail
businesses
[2:02:19] um the bars were overflowing it was
wonderful not only downtown but also at
[2:02:25] 307 and it was a wonderful wonderful
unexpected
[2:02:29] showing of what we could do and help our
community so I just wanted to make sure
[2:02:34] that you guys know that after we found
out that that was an awesome
[2:02:39] turn of events we are going to start
planning more events that will benefit
[2:02:43] the businesses downtown because we do
believe that that is one amazing
[2:02:51] factor that just happened to happen with
those businesses
[2:02:55] um I did get a lot of thank yous from
the businesses and um it was it was a
[2:03:01] great great thing to know that
taking the time to make sure that the
[2:03:07] details were
in order
[2:03:10] that it was a blessing
in more ways than one so I just wanted
[2:03:15] to let you know that we do try really
really hard to impact the businesses
[2:03:18] around us in a positive point I have a
question yes sir the last catering event
[2:03:24] the catering permit we approved was the
ladies night out yes sir did
[2:03:30] I'm not gonna it's okay put you on the
spot but did you have a good turnout for
[2:03:33] that we had an amazing turnout we had
about 125
[2:03:37] um women show up we offered two movies
um 180 for Brady which was a huge
[2:03:43] success Across the Nation but we also
put bridesmaids upstairs uh I'm sorry
[2:03:48] not right
bad moms bad moms upstairs
[2:03:52] we also let the community choose between
bridesmaids and bad moms that was we
[2:03:57] tried to let the community involvement
in our business speak because we are not
[2:04:02] here for ourselves we're here for the
community
[2:04:06] um and they chose to have bad moms and
also for this event for couples night
[2:04:12] slash guys night we realize the guys
don't like to just call up their guy
[2:04:16] friends and be like hey you want to go
to the movies doesn't happen so we had
[2:04:20] to plan a little differently
um a lot of the guys when because we try
[2:04:25] really hard to publicize what we have
coming if I can find out it's not always
[2:04:30] possible and sometimes they change their
minds really close to the time that it's
[2:04:34] supposed to come out
um since John Wick was
[2:04:38] totally happening and has not been
pulled
[2:04:41] as of today
the guys really wanted this and a
[2:04:46] western
well we found out
[2:04:49] that there is a rodeo College Rodeo
happening this Friday
[2:04:53] so we're gonna hold on the western which
we already have
[2:04:58] um scheduled for the another guy's night
slash couples night
[2:05:03] um but it is one that that a lot of the
Cowboys really want to see and I believe
[2:05:09] it has
Clint Eastwood in it I'm so sorry Every
[2:05:13] Which Way from
this that's the one
[2:05:18] sorry it's so not my forte I think it
has Jackson in it too yeah so that's the
[2:05:23] one that was requested we will have that
one but not this Friday but obviously we
[2:05:29] are going to do these events a lot more
often we are also going to do a kids
[2:05:33] event twice a year as well as ladies
events twice a year men's night couples
[2:05:37] night twice a year so that we can
accommodate all of the residents in our
[2:05:42] community as well as plan some other
events the kids night we want to involve
[2:05:47] a lot more and I may ask to shut down
the street in front of us but I also
[2:05:53] went and I talked to all of the
businesses just to make sure that that
[2:05:56] was something that maybe we can start
planning on later but that they were
[2:05:59] okay with that and they have been hands
down so supportive and I'm so thankful
[2:06:04] for them
so just for future reference we will
[2:06:08] probably be coming to you a lot more
one one more question for me uh this the
[2:06:13] lady that's catering catering this event
on Friday the 24th Julie she's the same
[2:06:18] one that catered yeah okay yep um we
have a great relationship with them um
[2:06:23] cost effective for us
um
[2:06:26] I think her because it is
it's something unfortunately when we are
[2:06:30] new and literally every expense is
coming out of our pocket right now
[2:06:35] um literally everything we have to pay
for out of pocket because we are not
[2:06:39] making enough through the theater
um to supplement not your problem it is
[2:06:44] totally something that we're working
through and we are building Jesus
[2:06:47] Revolution was great for us but yes
Julie is
[2:06:51] um doing the event right now because
cost effectively it just works for us
[2:06:57] any other questions I can answer
councilman do you have any questions
[2:07:04] I know Sandy thank you thank you guys I
would move to approve this care I have a
[2:07:11] motion from councilman Patterson to
approve the catering permit to allow
[2:07:14] Julie Miller harshberger with 307 Sports
Bar and Grill to have a catering
[2:07:20] catering permit for the Torrington
Cinemas couples night out on March 24 20
[2:07:24] 23 from 5 PM to 11 P.M do I have a
second second
[2:07:33] I have a second from councilman victron
I do have any further discussion
[2:07:39] hearing none all those in favor of
approving this catering permit signify
[2:07:44] for saying aye
aye any opposed signify by saying they
[2:07:48] catering credit permit is approved
next item on the agenda is the approval
[2:07:54] of the bills
[2:08:00] thank you mayor and Council
handed out tonight was a set of bills
[2:08:05] for you to review I'd be glad to answer
any questions you may have
[2:08:13] I think everybody's aware but you also
had some additional ones that you gave
[2:08:17] us prior to them yes
that we're not on the agenda okay
[2:08:24] they're attached to the attempt
[2:08:27] [Applause]
[2:08:41] in the second set of bills
page
[2:08:46] three at the bottom it says Sam's West
Incorporated
[2:08:50] interest charges
[2:09:04] um so Sam's
is
[2:09:08] um
a little strange in their billing
[2:09:12] and so what they what happened I believe
here is
[2:09:17] um
it what we have started doing is paying
[2:09:22] each ticket as we get it and not waiting
for the statement
[2:09:26] because apparently
if you wait for the statement some of
[2:09:32] the charges may be late
so that is what happened in this
[2:09:36] instance
[2:10:12] foreign
[2:10:27] I have a motion from councilman Kelly to
approve the bills as presented from
[2:10:33] March 3rd or March 8th of 23 to March
21st of 23. do I have a second
[2:10:43] I have a second from councilman deal
[2:10:47] gentlemen is there any further
discussion on the approval of the bills
[2:10:55] hearing that I'd call for a vote all
those in favor of approval of the bills
[2:11:00] from March 8 23 to March 21 23 signified
by saying aye aye any opposed signify by
[2:11:08] saying nay
ice habit for bills from March 3rd
[2:11:15] March 8th 23 to March 21st 23 are
approved thank you
[2:11:21] next item on the agenda is the public
comment section
[2:11:27] I see the public has dwindled a bit
any members of the public or council
[2:11:32] members have a comment that they want to
bring forward now is playing
[2:11:40] I just wanted to introduce you guys to
my staff
[2:11:44] and most of you know Stacy Stacy Lira
who is
[2:11:48] a fantastic owner of yogalicious if you
guys have not tried that I highly
[2:11:53] recommend it but I would like to
introduce you to my staff Caitlin
[2:11:57] Flanagan
and bowler
[2:12:00] Lexi Flanagan Shaylee Jackson
these girls are
[2:12:05] some girls that you need to make sure
and watch
[2:12:09] um they are going places and I am so
proud to have them run our theater to be
[2:12:16] a part of the public
to treat the customers and the rest of
[2:12:20] the community with respect and trudge
through the unfortunate circumstances
[2:12:25] sometimes you come across in retail but
I wanted to make sure that you guys know
[2:12:30] who they are because these girls are
[2:12:37] um well let's see
THS lingle THS THS
[2:12:42] and
um I just want you to know that these
[2:12:45] girls have truly given their all to the
theater to our community not only
[2:12:52] to that but they are also working
pretty much full-time
[2:12:58] and going to school full-time
to um
[2:13:02] further their career maybe later
hopefully they stay at the theater
[2:13:04] forever but
I just wanted to let you guys know who
[2:13:08] they are so that if you ever come in you
will meet them
[2:13:11] and and that they stayed they are
wonderful I'm very thankful that they so
[2:13:16] graciously stayed to listen and be
respectful to you guys for the job that
[2:13:20] you do
thank you I appreciate the introduction
[2:13:23] and I appreciate your perseverance
it's what self-governance is about okay
[2:13:30] I wish more people would be involved so
thank you for doing that
[2:13:34] appreciate it
any oh
[2:13:38] fireman
fire chief patch you're back there do
[2:13:42] you have any comments for the council
[2:13:51] seeing if you're awake
you dutifully send me a report on these
[2:13:57] sort of days and I got that there's been
a little
[2:14:00] uptick in activity but it's mostly smoke
alarmed kind of things and you had a
[2:14:04] grass fire that you assisted with yeah
we've had uh the last couple weeks a
[2:14:08] little uptick with some smoke detectors
going off a few carbon monoxide calls
[2:14:14] faulty detectors you know they kind of
wear out we did have last week on Monday
[2:14:19] uh Yoder and about a 75 acre grass fire
so with the wind and everything it's
[2:14:26] kind of about that time stuff's drying
out the unfortunate thing on that call
[2:14:29] was soil still pretty soft but it burns
so some trucks were getting stuck here
[2:14:35] and there and
it's kind of the time of year it is and
[2:14:38] the way it goes so
[2:14:41] I think they're going well and
[2:14:46] anybody has any questions
any questions from the council
[2:14:51] thank you appreciate your service thank
you have a good evening
[2:14:58] we're on item 12 of the agenda
everything that's on the agenda has been
[2:15:02] completed
so I will
[2:15:07] determine that this meeting is adjourned
thank you