1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,160 All this together 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,280 and they blew glass. Oh wow. 3 00:00:22,925 --> 00:00:24,945 [clears throat] 4 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,520 » Like a per >> do 5 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:47,360 » sort [laughter] of. Yeah. And just certain areas you already got 6 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:52,160 contractors identified that can bid in that area to do the work. 7 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:57,280 » Exactly. SER's a regional provider. So they have crews and offices throughout 8 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,960 Indiana and Midwest. >> How long they've been around? 9 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:06,720 » Oh, 25 years. They were formerly called Maple Net. 10 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,760 » It's out of Indiana. [laughter] >> Oh wow. 11 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:15,880 » Where they primarily started. They're out of [laughter] 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,880 » They're out of uh 13 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Elcart and Leaport where the two two main offices 14 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:44,079 » Ho C WV our team 15 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:48,640 » our team. >> So do you have a presentation or you 16 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:53,040 just what we're going to talk about it? >> Yeah, it was pretty much just a um 17 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:54,640 general conversation. Nothing to present. 18 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,759 » Okay. >> So I'll bring that up, give an overview 19 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:04,520 and then you want to expand >> answer any questions. 20 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,520 » Okay. 21 00:02:08,239 --> 00:02:15,239 Did you say >> I spell your name again? 22 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,720 » It's a funky name. So >> there you go. 23 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:25,879 » Were you on the call today? >> I was. Yes. 24 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,879 I didn't say 25 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,000 » John >> John and Jordan. 26 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:45,480 » Yes. >> Great to meet you. 27 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,480 » Randy Dunny ally. 28 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,080 So everybody 29 00:03:15,847 --> 00:03:17,867 [laughter] 30 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,680 I took those 31 00:03:36,152 --> 00:03:38,172 » [laughter] 32 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,720 » I'm going to call me 33 00:03:50,562 --> 00:03:52,582 [laughter] 34 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:01,159 back. 35 00:04:02,352 --> 00:04:04,372 » [laughter] 36 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,232 » down that road. >> I might follow 37 00:04:10,212 --> 00:04:12,232 [laughter] 38 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,680 down. 39 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,800 We're getting close. [laughter] How 40 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,520 are you? 41 00:05:05,888 --> 00:05:07,908 [laughter] 42 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:26,320 » They can't be that stable. I crash in that hurt. 43 00:05:31,433 --> 00:05:33,453 » [laughter] 44 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,880 » pretty good. >> I guess 45 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,138 that's crazy. [laughter] 46 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,280 very much more. 47 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:28,400 I have 7:00. Um, could you please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance? 48 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:34,000 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 49 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:38,560 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 50 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,160 justice for all. >> If you would remain standing, if you 51 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:47,840 would please remove your hats for a moment of silence. We'd like to honor 52 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:52,319 Matthew my young man who lost his life last week in the floods. lives out at uh 53 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,584 lived out at the golf course with his parents. So, please join me in a moment 54 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,604 of science. [clears throat] 55 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,880 » Thank you. 56 00:07:11,649 --> 00:07:19,039 [laughter] >> First item on the agenda is to approve 57 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:22,560 the minutes from the August 10th, 2020 August 10th, 26th meeting. 58 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:24,960 » I make a motion to approve the uh minutes. 59 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,960 » I'll second. >> Have a motion by Randy, seconded by Jeff 60 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,720 to approve the minutes as presented. All in favor say I. 61 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,280 » I. >> I. Motion carries. 62 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Next item is the approval of docket for regular expenditures. 63 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:42,000 » I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. 64 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:46,560 » Have a motion by Jeff, seconded by John to approve the u docket for regular 65 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:51,720 expenditures as presented. All in favor say I. 66 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:51,720 » I. I motion carries. 67 00:07:52,400 --> 00:08:03,919 Old business. Um just to mention to the council that we have an appeal uh in the 68 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:08,800 process um for the violation um on um ordinance for uh having poultry within 69 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:17,199 the city limits. that will be going to the uh BCA uh in the next few weeks uh 70 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:22,240 for the uh appeal for a variance. Uh Wildcat restroom uh materials are in. 71 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:27,759 I think maybe it'll be starting some work maybe today this week. I saw the 72 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:33,360 contractor down there this evening doing some things. So hopefully we'll see that 73 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:38,479 start to break ground. Uh talked with um Superior Services today. uh the pickle 74 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,320 ball court resurfaced, the weather hit them just like it did everybody else 75 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:47,760 because you have to have so many days of dry weather and um they're hoping that 76 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:53,040 they can start by the end of this week. Uh it'll be a 4-day process. Uh so when 77 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:57,920 they let us know, we'll post that the courts will be closed for 4 days so that 78 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:03,839 they can get those resurfaced. Uh we've also um come to an agreement on 79 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:09,920 the sale of 613 North Broadway. the paperwork's been signed. Um the uh 80 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:15,200 potential buyer is an ab budding land owner and she is out of town until the 81 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:19,680 29th of August. And when she signs her paperwork and presents us with the check 82 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:26,959 for $3,500, uh our attorney will record that it over 83 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:29,279 to her. Um we also Jerry, did they drop those three polls at 84 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:35,680 » He dropped two of them. >> Okay. We have two poles that are down at 85 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:40,160 the um park on First Street. Um so we'll be we have those in our possession now 86 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,680 and hopefully we'll get those cameras installed. [clears throat] 87 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,480 And then the only other thing I have for old business, the dumpster has been 88 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:54,080 removed at the back of the AT&T building. Um Jane and I were on our way 89 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:57,760 to Muny a week or so ago and I went by and it was still there. They had told us 90 00:09:55,839 --> 00:10:03,680 that they'd get it removed and I called Best Waste Management and an hour and 10 91 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:08,240 minutes later on the phone they agreed that they would get it the following 92 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Tuesday. This was on a Thursday and she said, "But if I can get that 93 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:16,079 moved up to tomorrow, would that make you happy?" And they did. They moved it 94 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:21,680 up that Friday and they removed it. So, it's been gone now over a week. So, u 95 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:25,680 and I don't think it'll be going back. I think they the neighbor there was just a 96 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:30,240 dumping ground for people and there was an old mattress there. Did we get the 97 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:33,600 other stuff picked up? Uh we picked up some of the stuff that was on the ground 98 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:37,680 because the company only took their dumpster, but we got rid of them. 99 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,839 » Randy, any old business? >> No. 100 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:46,640 » Uh Spencer is stuck at work. He's actually in Crawford'sville. Um talked 101 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:52,240 to him a little bit ago and said that uh he has to spend the night. his uh job's 102 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:57,760 going to keep him there tonight. Uh so we uh would have talked about the 103 00:10:54,079 --> 00:11:00,720 organizational sign uh the book box um with Northwest Bank and those 104 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:07,460 surveillance cameras, but those will table to the next meeting. 105 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:12,160 Jeff, uh community crossing grant. Yeah, [clears throat] we're starting to 106 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:17,279 collect um the different roads that we need to look at for the community 107 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:20,959 crossing grant. Uh again, that's a September submission. So Jerry, I'd say 108 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:25,600 if you if you have any think any roads out there that you think need attention, 109 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,560 let me know. Otherwise, we'll be driving out and around or anybody. 110 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,320 » Same with the police department. >> Exactly. Yeah. If there's anything, you 111 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:36,800 know, just let me know and we'll make sure we get that on our list 112 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:40,399 because we don't want to miss out on that. 113 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,839 » And the change on that this year, Jeeoff, is there it's only one 114 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,519 submission, right? We used to have twice a year we could do that but state of 115 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:52,240 Indiana has changed the submission to once per year. So [clears throat] this 116 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:56,640 submission will be for road painting in 27. 117 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:05,920 » And is it a 70 what's 8020 >> 8020 match? We the state pays 80% we pay 118 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:09,440 20 of what uh of what the proposed uh would be. 119 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,560 » Anything else Jeff? >> That's it. John, 120 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,883 » uh, nothing. >> Joyce, 121 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,959 » nothing. [clears throat] 122 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:24,560 » Jerry, >> uh, they have started moving the water 123 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:32,079 line down there at, uh, the coffee shop. They did get the the temporary, uh, line 124 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:37,760 up and running and I checked at Dollar Tree and they hand water, so they're 125 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:42,000 good to go. They shut the line down now. And we did remove our meter pit that we 126 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:44,880 installed in March. >> Okay. 127 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:48,079 » So, good. That's all I got. 128 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,079 » Okay. Anything from the police department? 129 00:12:51,600 --> 00:13:00,880 » New business. Um, we have Surf Internet here tonight. They are an internet 130 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:07,920 provider uh for fiber optic um internet service. uh they are um approaching the 131 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:13,760 town wanting uh to get permission to put fiber optics uh throughout town and then 132 00:13:11,839 --> 00:13:18,079 uh if we would do that individual patrons would have the opportunity to 133 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,839 sign up if you wanted theirs or you could keep who you have. We 134 00:13:20,420 --> 00:13:27,279 [clears throat] have two representatives there. They uh provided us today um and 135 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:32,160 this is up here for anybody would like to see it with three different sections. 136 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:38,880 it would include the entire town except for the golf course uh because it's not 137 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:45,760 a continuous line that they can do. And um they um we our understanding is that 138 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:50,959 their main hub would be at the corner of Second and Washington Street, which is 139 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:56,160 uh straight down from the school into that second block. And there would be 140 00:13:52,720 --> 00:14:00,800 about a 5-ft box there, which is what everything would work out of. And then 141 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,240 as they go through town, they would use the rideaways to put I think what you 142 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:06,320 guys called handhelds. >> Yeah, handholds. 143 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,120 » Hand holds. I'm sorry. >> No, that's close enough. 144 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:17,040 » And they would look very much like a manhole cover where they run the optics. 145 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:21,040 Um they uh we had quite a discussion on the phone last a little over an hour 146 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:25,519 today. We still will be presenting information if we decide to move forward 147 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:31,760 with this to our attorney for uh the legal um things that we would be 148 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:39,040 concerned about restoration of property uh a bond possibly if the work didn't 149 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:44,399 get completed. Um and then u making sure that if there are places where there is 150 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,160 not a right away for where they need to go that they would be in discussions 151 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,839 with those property owners or they will avoid that area and come back in a 152 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:58,880 different way. So correct. >> Um we have Jordan and John. Anything you 153 00:14:55,839 --> 00:15:03,360 want to add to this? Uh we're we still um have lots of questions and that's why 154 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:08,880 we want our attorney to look at it. Um, but they're indicating it would just be 155 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:15,199 another option for our patrons uh if you chose that as your service provider. So, 156 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,639 » you might talk a little bit about your company or a little bit about you wanted 157 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,279 to start with >> the engineering side. 158 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,240 » Nothing particular. I heard you mentioned the golf course isn't included 159 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,800 at this point. That doesn't mean it can't be in the future. It just wasn't 160 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:32,160 in our initial plans when we approached the town, but if there's enough 161 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:34,399 interest, it absolutely can be completed. So, 162 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,079 » okay. >> Okay. 163 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,440 » Yeah. I don't have anything. >> I'll attach kind of on top of that when 164 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:44,079 we come to a new market or new town, too. We are somewhat conservative a 165 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:48,000 little bit, too. So, it take us um quite a bit more money to get out to the golf 166 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,440 course. If we see that, you know, things are going pretty well. If you're closer 167 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,320 in town, that's that just kind of speeds up that process a little bit, too. It's 168 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,360 like, okay, you know, we're good patients. So um we are actually based 169 00:15:56,959 --> 00:16:05,440 out of Elcart, Indiana. Uh we have been in business with internet for over 27 170 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:09,759 years but pretty heavily into fiber. Um the last eight years or so, but 171 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,519 previously before that we would provide wireless internet. So sometimes you 172 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:18,000 would see a satellite on like a grain silo or a water tower and it would be to 173 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:23,040 someone's house. Um that's years ago before you know your likes of cable 174 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,320 internet got popular um some years ago. So that's kind of a little bit of older 175 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:31,440 technology. We still have some customers on wireless, but it's very little. So 176 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:35,279 our primary business is uh fiber. We are again located out of Elcart. Our 177 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:39,120 customer care is in the port of Indiana. So anytime a resident would have a need 178 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,120 to call into our customer care or technical support, [clears throat] 179 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:45,040 you're going to speak to someone that lives in Indiana. Um we have a couple 180 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:48,399 people that are remote out of like Tennessee or something. So they may get 181 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,560 a little bit of a southern accent, but they were kind of grandfathered in 182 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:58,800 employees. Uh so we we are what we consider a regional uh internet company. 183 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:03,519 Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. Uh we have almost 100,000 customers. We're not 184 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:08,720 quite there yet. Real close. Um and we provide service to over 300,000 homes 185 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:14,640 and businesses among those three states. Uh we happened to be doing some work uh 186 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:19,360 in Muny in Yorktown and we're actually have an office on Kilgore that we just 187 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,959 opened up and started to kind of look out and expand from there. So we're 188 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:29,679 working with Red Key and a couple other local uh communities and noticed that Al 189 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:34,160 didn't have uh fiber. We are 100% funding the project. So we're not going 190 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:38,640 to ask um for any money from you guys. And it's very important that we do good 191 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:43,360 work and good restoration. We are pretty much primarily underground and we will 192 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:46,720 be going through, you know, residents yards. It's technically the rideway, not 193 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:51,039 their private property. We'd like to stay right in the rideway. Uh, and there 194 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:54,559 will be some disruptions, but it's important for us to restore service 195 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,240 because if we're not going to be good stewards, we're probably not going to 196 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:02,799 get too many people sign up and we uh that that's not why we're here, right? 197 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:07,919 Yeah, we are a for-profit business, but ultimately um the upgrade to fiber 198 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:13,919 internet provides a huge advantage to the town. Um if you can think years ago 199 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:18,000 when we we got past dialup, the next transition was was DSL and you consider 200 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:24,240 that like a four-lane highway. Well, then your likes of Comcast Exfinity came 201 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:27,840 in and made that highway into 25 lanes. Really what fiber does is come in and 202 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:33,600 now expand that highway to about a 100 lanes across. So, it's and the the um 203 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:37,840 what I say the kind of future of it and what can be done with fiber is kind of 204 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,520 uh it's still not there. They don't know the limit of it yet. We're only using a 205 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:48,000 few strands in there with multiple streams available for who knows what 206 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:51,760 down the road. So, we'll provide um I would I would assume 8 gigabit service 207 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:57,360 up to 8 gigabit. That's not a very common uh household speed. Yeah, but we 208 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:03,120 we will it will be available. Uh, and our plans start off at $30 a month. Kind 209 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:07,520 of go into our plans. Everything's no contract. Um, customers won't pay for 210 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,640 installation. There's some businesses. Sometimes it'll take a unique situation. 211 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:17,520 There may be some installation costs, but primarily no. Um, and our price is a 212 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:22,160 regular price. It doesn't go up four years or two years or one year or 213 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:25,440 whatever. Um, it stays that price. And we basically 214 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:30,400 we just want to be easy to do business with. Again, we want to get a good ROI 215 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:34,960 on our on our bill. So, >> we also talked today on the phone that 216 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:38,880 the town will need some assurances that if the work's not done or if there's 217 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:43,520 litigation that should happen down the way that we would be involved in that we 218 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:48,960 would not have the expense of that. Um, and that let's say for example, if a 219 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:52,480 water line gets hit, [clears throat] it would be your responsibility to pay 220 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,600 to have that done. Our workers may do it because they know where it is, but then 221 00:19:53,840 --> 00:20:00,960 you would get build for that. Those are the things that we want to to tie up 222 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:05,679 loose ends on. There may be some other things. So, anything that you can 223 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:10,720 provide us along those lines in writing that we could present to our attorney 224 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,919 would be helpful up front. Um, and I think you were going to work on 225 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,679 something. >> We're working on it already. 226 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:18,240 Yeah, we talked about that today, but I just wanted our patrons to know that 227 00:20:17,658 --> 00:20:22,160 [laughter] not only do we want it to be a good 228 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:28,320 service, we want it to be one that the town and the citizens of the town are 229 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:35,919 protected. So, um, we appreciate that. Any questions? U hang on. Not for the 230 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:39,760 audience, for the council. >> Okay. There's a place at the end for 231 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:44,720 public company. >> Um, how would it hook up? Like you'd run 232 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:48,880 it in said rightway. So utility would be like a water line, a gas line. Would you 233 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:52,320 follow that in and then up into the house? 234 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:57,280 » Yeah. So down in the rideway, we do contend Yeah. with water lines, sewer 235 00:20:54,159 --> 00:21:00,000 lines. So that's where it's um really crucial that we do good work in the 236 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,000 rightway to not run into anything because we don't want to hit anything 237 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:08,480 either and have to pay for something. Accidents do happen. Um it does happen 238 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:12,480 from time to time. If we sit down and say we're not going to say anything, 239 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,240 it's probably we not be telling the truth. I mean, something's going to 240 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:20,240 happen probably. But again, the town being protected to know that we're here 241 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,039 to uh fix it and stay behind our business. [clears throat] 242 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:26,720 » So, the fiber optics, would it plug into your TV or 243 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,280 » Yeah. So, good question. So, when we get when we get done putting the 244 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,080 infrastructure in, there's about there's a handful about every two to three 245 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,360 homes. >> And let's say you want to go ahead and 246 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:39,200 order service. So, what we do is then come in, tap into that handhole. It 247 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,280 could be in your neighbor's yard. It could be in your yard. Um, it and then 248 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:48,640 we run it to your up to your home and come in traditionally just like a cable 249 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:52,400 provider would. Then goes into a modem um and wireless router, which we 250 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:56,480 actually give those for free included with the service. Uh, so that's again 251 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,679 trying to make it easy to do business with. Uh, and then that line will stay 252 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:05,280 out in the lawn lawn for anywhere from 14 to 20 days or so. we'll come back and 253 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:09,039 bury it. So, we don't bury it on the spot. A lot of times that helps if there 254 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,360 is a connection issues. We're not ripping fiber back out. We usually will 255 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:16,559 know within a couple weeks if something's not right with that fiber 256 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:21,120 line and we need to replace it or do something. Um, but ultimately we know 257 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:24,640 right away at the install, but every, you know, every once in a while. Um, we 258 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:29,919 do leave some slack so people can pick it up to mow their lawn and, you know, 259 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:34,080 dogs won't trip over or kids. Um 260 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:38,000 do you provide like television and and packages like that? 261 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:42,240 » We provide internet and home phone. >> We can suggest uh television providers 262 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,919 uh but not really affiliated with >> mostly internet for like streaming. 263 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:51,360 » Correct. Yeah. We we would uh we're big we'd be big fans of like a YouTube or 264 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:54,880 Direct TV stream, a Hulu, live TV, things of that nature. 265 00:22:53,200 --> 00:23:00,799 » Okay, >> Jeff or Okay. Well, once we receive 266 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:05,039 those documents and we can get those to our um we're not going to take action 267 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:10,000 tonight because we still have those unanswered questions, but um once we get 268 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:15,600 those then we'll make a better informed decision and uh we'll let you know when 269 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:20,000 that's going to happen. So, we I think we have their contact information 270 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:25,039 » um so we can get back to you. But we appreciate your coming and trying to 271 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:28,240 answer questions for us. So, um >> and don't hesitate to reach out. So, I'm 272 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,760 gonna ask, do you plan to stay through the rest of the meeting? If not, I'm 273 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:35,760 gonna let him ask his question. Otherwise, we wait till later in the 274 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:43,200 meeting for the public to >> stay. Yeah, I usually 275 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:46,880 Okay. Thank you. Um, next two items. Um, we have two new ordinances are in 276 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:51,600 effect. Give the public a chance to speak to those if they want to at the 277 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:58,080 public, uh, portion of the meeting. But ordinance um 26-5 278 00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:03,120 was the weeds nuisance ordinance and basically those increase the fines for 279 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:09,120 multiple offenses if we have to mow or take care of somebody's property uh over 280 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:13,600 and over and over um in the past and and I had an attorney uh who owns a property 281 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:17,840 here in town told me it's cheaper to let us do it than for him to have to hire 282 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:24,080 somebody. So he basically lets it go to the point of where they're cighted and 283 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:28,159 we mow it and it was a $100 fine. Well, it's cheaper for him to have us do it 284 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:32,000 than for them to mow it every week because it usually takes a month before 285 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:38,080 you get to that point. So, our new ordinance calls for a $100 fine the 286 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:43,600 first time, up to $300 the second time, and up to $500 the third time because 287 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:49,679 there was no penalty there that basically we became their lawn care 288 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:55,360 people. So, that's in effect. And um the u those also include things like keeping 289 00:24:52,240 --> 00:25:00,080 livestock and other things in in town. Those are considered nuisance and would 290 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:06,320 fall under that weed nuisance ordinance. The other one is um on the um use of 291 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:11,440 scooters, ebikes and those kinds of things on certain portions of sidewalks 292 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:16,559 here in town and on certain streets and we'll cover that. That was ordinance 20 293 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,679 6-6. This is a modification [clears throat] 294 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:24,000 of an ordinance that's been on the books since 2005. 295 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:30,720 This is not a new ordinance. It is an expansion of an existing ordinance. The 296 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:36,480 previous ordinance did not allow any um uh bicycles uh anything other than foot 297 00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:44,799 traffic between Delaware Street and Water Street and then some on side 298 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:49,200 streets like Cedar and Maine. Um so this is basically an ordinance that is only 299 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:52,880 intended because of all the use of electric scooters and ebikes that we're 300 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:56,640 seeing on our sidewalks and the complaints that we've been getting. So, 301 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,279 those ordinance were put into effect and we'll let people respond to those, but 302 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:08,640 it's been here since 2005. So, um we want to thank um Landon, 303 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:13,200 excuse me, Fryberger. Uh his last day was this past Friday. Uh he's been 304 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:18,559 admitted to the doctoral program at Ball State, so he is now full-time student 305 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:23,039 again. So, uh we appreciate that. And council will have to decide what we want 306 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:28,080 to do with that position. Um, if you have thoughts, uh, please come to me and 307 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:32,960 we'll put this on the agenda for the ne and Jerry and Rick can respond. But 308 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:40,080 we'll, um, we'll put this on the agenda for whether what action we want to take 309 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,840 at our next meeting. So >> Randy, [clears throat] 310 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,960 » any new business? >> No. 311 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,640 » Spencer's not here. Jeff, >> no. 312 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,279 » John, >> no. 313 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:55,679 » Joyce, do we have a resolution? >> Yeah. Um, I want to present to the 314 00:26:52,000 --> 00:27:00,159 council resolution 2026-7, uh, resolution on writing off delinquent 315 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:06,720 non-collectible utility accounts. This would be for the property that, uh, the 316 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:16,000 town acquired, 613 North Broadway. And um the uh since it's it's ours and um 317 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:20,960 that was part of the agreement that we made with the owner uh when we acquired 318 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:28,880 the property. Uh so the amount to be written off would be 1,027 319 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:35,520 um on water 1737 in sewage trash would be 522 storm water 520 and um other 320 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:41,559 charges which would have been like mowing $40 total would be $3,848.77. 321 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:52,400 this was the previous owner of that property, not the person who's making 322 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:57,474 the the purchase price. Um, they agreed to deed that over to the county and then 323 00:27:54,399 --> 00:28:01,200 the county deed it to us. If we would um [clears throat] wave our fees, that was 324 00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:07,679 this is the house that was burned out up on North Broadway that we've been trying 325 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,640 for like three years to uh to grab that property so that we could have it 326 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:17,600 demolished. It's been demolished and we have the buyer. So, I would recommend 327 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:23,399 that we uh uh sign off on the resolution 26-7 to write off that debt of $3,848.7. 328 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,559 Any discussion? >> I make a motion then. There's no 329 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:32,559 discussion. >> I'll second. 330 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:38,240 » Can we do the whole thing tonight? Okay. I have a tell me the motion and second 331 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:42,880 again. I make a motion to um adopt resolution 2026-7 332 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,000 to write off debt from 613 North Broadway. Okay. 333 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,000 » Of $3,848.77. 334 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:56,159 » And a second by Jeff. I have a motion by Randy, second by Jeff to approve 335 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:59,600 resolution 2026-7 uh writing off that debt in the amount 336 00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:03,840 of 384870. All in favor say I. 337 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:09,520 » Motion carries. Anything else, Choice? 338 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:15,080 » Uh, no. You can pass that down. Everyone can sign that resolution. 339 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,080 » Okay. Thank you. 340 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:25,840 » While they're doing that, Jerry, any old business? 341 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Be new business. >> New business. I'm sorry. The 342 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:33,919 » Just let you guys know, the mowing contractor called me three times last 343 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:39,360 week worried about mowing And I told him the part was underwater 344 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:44,559 still to hold off. Well, he said that he's definitely coming this week to mow 345 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:50,480 what he could mow. And I told him last week, I said there's no sense. Three out 346 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:55,440 of the the ones you mow are underwater still and 347 00:29:53,200 --> 00:30:00,159 not to not to drive clear down here, just to mow a couple of the parks and 348 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:04,880 stuff for that. So, >> okay. So, he said he'd definitely be 349 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:10,559 down uh he called me, matter of fact, over the weekend and said that he would 350 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:14,159 definitely be down Wednesday and >> good. Well, their communication, I 351 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:18,559 think, has been great. I mean, they've tried all year to make sure that we're 352 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:24,000 aware of every little hitch that's come along and uh the work's been excellent. 353 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:28,960 So, I appreciate their contacting me. >> He was concerned and 354 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:35,200 he almost came down Friday and I tried him not to. I said, "You're not going to 355 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:39,039 the yards that you do mow and just hold off." 356 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:44,799 » Okay. One other item while Jerry has the floor here. We uh had to repair the 357 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:49,279 overhead doors over here at the uh garage. We had a spring break. Uh I 358 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,640 think it was just spring, wasn't it? >> Cable broke first, which caused the 359 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:58,480 spring to break. And >> and Jerry Jerry called me on a Friday 360 00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:03,039 and the um company came on Saturday and fixed it. So, but we had to do that so 361 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:07,520 we could get in the into the barn. So, just so you're aware if you see those 362 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:11,120 claims. So, anything else, Jerry? >> No. 363 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,760 » Anything from the police? Corey, anything? Okay. Uh, this would be the 364 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,520 time uh if you are in the public, you'd like to address the council, any 365 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,320 concerns, issues you might have. We ask tonight because we're having a little 366 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:26,240 trouble with our live streaming that if you're going to address the council that 367 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:29,760 you come up to the corner of the table here to speak to us so we can make sure 368 00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:34,240 [clears throat] that we get you on the camera and we uh get you recorded. 369 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,399 Sometimes back when you're this far, we can't it doesn't pick you up. Well, so 370 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:41,840 anyone sir, state your name when you come and 371 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:46,200 then tell us. >> Can I bring up the box? 372 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200 » Sure. 373 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:56,399 Hello, I am Dustin G. I suffer from several mental health 374 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,360 issues. Post-traumatic stress disorder, borderline personality disorder, 375 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:06,640 autistic, and ADHD. I cycle for mental health reasons. This box of destruction 376 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:11,679 is what it takes to ride at the speed limit of State Street. I've went through 377 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,880 two sets of cranks, two bottom brackets, and a blown out headset. This year, I've 378 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,279 almost pushed one of the pedals out of the crank arms, the forged aluminum. 379 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:24,000 [clears throat and cough] I understand that we don't want the electric driven 380 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,919 stuff on the sidewalks, but I read the thing and the way it is written, it has 381 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,000 banned kids from every sidewalk in this town, on bikes, skateboards, and 382 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,240 everything. And I'm worried that this is setting the town up for a wrongful death 383 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,240 lawsuit that will cost us taxpayers millions. 384 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:47,840 There's no safe lanes for bicycles through downtown for us to ride. I did a 385 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:54,080 small protest ride today on a Tik Tok live stream. I was passed over 50 times 386 00:32:50,720 --> 00:33:00,480 illegally and almost hit over 10. We're expecting children who do not know the 387 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:04,720 laws of the street to navigate this. 388 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,440 I don't want to see a kid on an electric bike doing 20 miles an hour and a door 389 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:12,159 open and they get door. >> Okay, 390 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,360 » that's but you are aware as I said earlier this 391 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:21,360 law has been on the books since 2005. We only included the ebike material. Let me 392 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:25,360 finish >> because of the complaints that we've 393 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:30,240 been receiving from people who are trying to walk out of a business 394 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:34,148 downtown or on a sidewalk. Spencer, who is not here, lives on the main street. 395 00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:38,080 He reported at our last meeting that [clears throat] at least four times he 396 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:44,559 has had to dodge somebody on an electric bike. I asked uh police officer Holesma, 397 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:48,960 Sergeant Hollesma today, how fast those bikes go and you said they cannot go up 398 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,840 to any ones can go between 40 and 60 399 00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:58,000 » 40 and 60 miles an hour. >> I don't believe they belong on the road 400 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,600 the sidewalks either. Well, but we don't have a way to prevent those unless we 401 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,960 have an ordinance that prevents them. You're you're saying you don't want a 402 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,800 child who doesn't understand the laws. Their parents understand the laws and 403 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,320 their parents need to be responsible for where their children are at and what 404 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:18,240 they're doing. We're seeing kids all over town, Dustin, who ignore stop 405 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:22,879 signs. They ignore the traffic laws. >> They're going down those sidewalks at 406 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:28,240 30, 40 miles an hour. I live on the main street. I've witnessed it. I've seen 407 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:34,800 them. One Sunday evening, I saw six kids racing down the streets and it's unsafe. 408 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:40,159 There is a there is no win in this for the town. We are either going to make 409 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:44,560 somebody mad who owns an ebike or a scooter or we're going to have a 410 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,879 pedestrian going into a barber shop or into the hardware store or somewhere 411 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:54,639 else coming out with packaging and getting ran over. So, we made the 412 00:34:51,760 --> 00:35:00,079 decision that they are sidewalks by definition meaning walk. And we know 413 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:04,720 that that upsets some people, but our feeling is that the safety of our 414 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:10,160 citizens are just as much in jeopardy when we have people who are recklessly 415 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:15,440 using those sidewalks. So, all we're doing is enforcing something that's been 416 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,280 there since 2005. I asked you a little bit ago when you were sitting here what 417 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,680 year you graduated from high school. You said 2012, you were a fifth grader when 418 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:30,480 this order was first implemented. We're just enforcing it. 419 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:35,440 » I just think that we need to add a bike lane or something so that there is a 420 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:38,400 safe way for people to go up and down through downtown 421 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,880 » off the sidewalk. >> We might not disagree with you on that, 422 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,280 but that is not our highway. We do not have the control over that highway. That 423 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:51,440 is the state. >> Can we move one side of the parking 424 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:56,640 NDOT set those they set up all the parking. They set up all of the U 425 00:35:54,240 --> 00:36:01,920 sidewalks. They they required that those sidewalks be a certain width for uh 426 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:06,880 people in uh wheelchairs, handicap accessible. Um we have no control over 427 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:11,040 those sidewalks or those streets downtown except we can prevent the 428 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,920 traffic on them. >> Okay. 429 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,040 » I just don't want to see a kid get hurt and I understand and your guys' concern 430 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,560 too. Yeah, we don't either. I mean that that's as I said, there's not we we 431 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:27,599 don't come out of this a winter either way, but we're just trying to look at 432 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:31,359 the general safety of it and we want people who visit our downtown businesses 433 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:36,240 to feel that they can walk in and out of a business safely. 434 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:40,880 So, but I do appreciate your comments and if there if there ever if you know 435 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:46,400 of a good way for us to have a different solution, we'll we'll listen. 436 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:50,880 I if there's a possibility of adding some sort of bike lane, I understand we 437 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,000 can't do it like just immediately, but maybe getting in contact with the 438 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,079 highway department addressing the concern the fact that it could lead to a 439 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:03,520 massive lawsuit for this town down the road, which I don't want to see the 440 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:06,800 water bills go up higher. >> They wouldn't because of that's a 441 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,680 separate fund, but I understand you're saying you don't want to see anybody get 442 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:14,800 sued. Yeah. >> Okay. Anyone else, sir? 443 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,640 My name is Jonathan. Um, >> last name 444 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:25,920 » Presman. Okay. >> Like, so I want to understand more 445 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:31,359 because you're saying I I completely agree with ebikes and scooters, which 446 00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:36,560 some, yes, can go up to 40 miles an hour. The other ones that go 20 to 30 447 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:41,440 miles an hour. Either way, they don't need to be on sidewalks. I agree on that 448 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:46,079 part. But I just I just want to know if you're going to try and 449 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:51,200 you know I more direct towards the police department on this one. Is a 450 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,040 little kid riding that riding their scooter like their normal scooter, 451 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,800 normal bicycle, you know, and is it just that street 452 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:03,440 that you're going to be enforcing it or is it multiple streets here in town? 453 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,119 » I believe that it says on sidewalks anywhere in town. 454 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:13,440 » Okay, so here's here's what I'm going to say here though. Last summer, my nephew 455 00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:18,880 was riding his bicycle in the street because some something was blocking the 456 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:23,440 sidewalk and a cop stopped him. I don't I don't 457 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:29,040 remember which cop, uh, but he made him call his mom, took the phone from him, 458 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:33,520 and explained to his mom how dangerous it is for him to be riding his bicycle 459 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,880 on the road. This that right there contradicts what 460 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,800 y'all are trying to do right now. I understand the ebikes and e- scooters, 461 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:46,240 but the bicycles, if a cop is going to stop and 462 00:38:42,656 --> 00:38:49,680 [clears throat] say the whole thing of it's, you know, lecture about how 463 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:55,680 dangerous it is for you to ride your bicycle or scooter or 464 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,040 because I I'll be honest, I I skateboard sometimes. 465 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:03,040 » I understand. And you know, so I will take my skateboard in the street, but 466 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:09,680 that's because I understand what I can do and I understand how what I do 467 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:14,560 affects other things. And you can't expect the fouryear-old who is or not 468 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:20,560 four-year-old, a six-year-old I should say, who is riding their up and down the 469 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:25,119 like the sidewalk. You can't expect them as they're riding 470 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:29,680 down say say they are forced to go in the street. can't expect them to 471 00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:33,440 constantly be thinking, "Okay, is that stop sign there? Somebody going to blow 472 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:36,960 through it and hit me?" Because I've seen people blow through stop signs in 473 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:42,640 this town multiple times, right? >> And the Now, I will say some cops are 474 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:47,520 good at doing it. They patrol, but others, they just sit in one spot the 475 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:51,599 whole day. I I will say that. And it's even worse 476 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:58,079 at night whenever it comes to patrolling. Sometimes they just sit 477 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:03,599 either gas station or the little buildings that are over here down uh the 478 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:07,359 main road. Uh you know where is that 67 or 28? That's over here. 479 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,880 » 67. >> All right. You know those buildings that 480 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,160 are over here on the 67? >> I think I know which one. 481 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,040 » Sitting there in the dark and all that. I understand they're trying to catch the 482 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,400 but [clears throat] it's just 483 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:27,920 the more that happens at night. Most of the time it happens more at night. 484 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,079 » Well, let me add I don't think they're just there to catchers during those 485 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,119 hours. >> Oh yeah. 486 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,359 » The businesses that we have open late at night are along that corridor. So, they 487 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:42,720 are closer to being able if they're needed at one of those spots. 488 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:46,960 » Yeah. And um I will say because I heard y'all mention something earlier about 489 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,720 security cameras being put up places. Uh I didn't quite hear what places they are 490 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,800 that >> we're looking at. We are looking at the 491 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,800 park on First Street >> because we've had a tremendous amount of 492 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:04,319 vandalism over the years and we're looking at some cameras that would be 493 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,520 out here in front and one in the new Wildcat Park. 494 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:12,560 » Yeah. You know, I I I will say >> those are way overdue for it because I 495 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:16,720 can't tell you the amount of >> kids I've seen late at night doing 496 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:21,760 things that they shouldn't be doing and all that. And I will add on top of that, 497 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:27,440 as somebody who used to bike and ride a moped, 498 00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:32,720 back and forth from work, um I am a pretty bigger guy. If a vehicle 499 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,560 doesn't see me, they're not going to see a kid, 500 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,319 » you know. >> Well, 501 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,560 We >> I I 502 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:44,240 » I get that. Um I think to go back to responding to your first Yeah. 503 00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:48,400 » part of your concern, 504 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:53,040 » our policemen always have discretionary authority. If they see a fouryear-old or 505 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:56,400 a 5-year-old riding a bike on the sidewalk on the side street, I doubt 506 00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:01,760 that they're going to sight them. I think they would first uh if if you've 507 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:06,640 read the ordinance the first contact uh first violation is they just want the 508 00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:11,119 parent to be aware the second one is again contacting the parent and if it is 509 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,720 situation where they feel like they have to do it a third time then they will 510 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:19,040 issue concern so they it won't be something 511 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,480 that's just [clears throat] happening >> without some type of preparation 512 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,319 » and I'm I'm I wasn't saying that it's going to happen some type of you know 513 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:32,800 system being because I've read it. I went through it. I've read it. I just I 514 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:38,880 wanted to try and understand more of what's going to be more like because I 515 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:44,079 understand a law has to be held. But if there's anyone who's like under the 516 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:47,520 age of like 10 and under and they're on the sidewalk and they're not causing no 517 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:52,400 harm. But I'm not saying on e- scooter because I will say this, if a kid is on 518 00:42:50,240 --> 00:43:00,000 a e- scooter and they are under the age of 13 that one that's breaking the rules 519 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,240 that the manufacturer has done. There are a lot of kids riding these 520 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,440 electric scooters that are under 13. >> And 521 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:12,880 if that is such an issue, then isn't there 522 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:19,280 and I I could be wrong, but because I used to I'm from different places. 523 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:24,079 Isn't there laws stating that certain things like that is 524 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:28,000 not allowed for kids like for people under a certain age? I'm I'm not going 525 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,000 to try and cite the law to you because I don't know, but I that would be 526 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,119 something that I would have to yield to our police officers or our payment 527 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,960 attorney because I don't know those offic I'm I'm not saying for you to site 528 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,520 it right now because yeah, >> like I said, I don't even know the exact 529 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:49,520 law around here of that. Um I was just like I said trying to understand the 530 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:54,160 whole because like I said >> I think anytime we create a new 531 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:58,480 ordinance or we implement a new law there is some growing pains that go 532 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,160 along with that and if we find that we need to come back and tweak something or 533 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,480 change something we have the option of doing that but this ordinance was drawn 534 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:13,359 up by our attorney felt it was consistent with Indiana law and again we 535 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,480 want it to be a safe environment. for everyone. 536 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:19,680 » Oh yeah. >> So they they are in effect uh currently 537 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:25,119 and we'll monitor and we'll see what kind it's no different than sometimes we 538 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:28,800 change the speed limit in a certain area um 539 00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:33,440 » from we we just did it here on the west end of town. It used to be 55 all the 540 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:39,119 way in. Now you see signs out there that say speed limit ahead 35. That used to 541 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:42,800 come 55 used to come on in farther. But with the development out there we've 542 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,960 lowered that. If we feel like there are things here that we need to tweak, we 543 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:51,200 certainly will take a look at that and we will rely on our our police 544 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:55,839 departments to tell us if something needs to be tightened or no, this is too 545 00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,240 tight, we could loosen, but we can always take a look at that. 546 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:06,079 » You know, I I just because I'm I'm I'm going to put this there. 547 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:11,839 The kids around here, they sometimes are in a lot like they're sometimes a lot to 548 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:18,160 do deal with. I mean, they're a lot to handle with some things and 549 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,319 they cause a lot of disturbance on a lot of things. And I'll be honest with you, 550 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:29,440 yes, e- scooters and ebikes are one of them. 551 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:34,240 But normal bicycles like uh skateboards, 552 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:39,280 » rollerblades, inline skates. Okay, rollerblades and inline skates, they can 553 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:45,680 be done on the street if you know what you're doing. Same with a skateboard. 554 00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:49,440 But if it's like a if it's one of these roads over here that don't have a 555 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:56,079 business on it that has a lot of foot traffic in 556 00:45:52,240 --> 00:46:01,040 and out of it. I don't see a issue with somebody using the sidewalk to do 557 00:45:58,891 --> 00:46:05,920 [clears throat] any of that. >> Um I would like to read this because a 558 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:10,240 lot of people that might be looking uh watching this live stream I want them to 559 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,720 know what we're talking about. Is that okay? 560 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:19,440 » Sure. Okay. So, um we've said that the town believes that 561 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,599 the use of certain modes of transportation 562 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:28,560 uh could pose a threat to the citizens and visitors that use the sidewalks. So, 563 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:33,119 we amended in its entirety to read as follows. 564 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:37,280 prohibited use of electric bicycles, electric scooters, and similar modes of 565 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:42,560 transportation are prohibited on all public sidewalks 566 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:48,720 in the town of Albany. Skateboards, scooters, roller skates, inline skates, 567 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:53,599 rollerblades, bicycles, and similar modes of transportation are prohibited 568 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:58,400 on all sidewalks on State Street in the town of Albany. 569 00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:03,440 And then the uh offenses, first offense would be verbal warning and parental 570 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:08,079 verbal warning to anyone under 18. Second offense, written warning and 571 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:13,520 parental notification under for someone under 18. Third offense and subsequent 572 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:18,640 offenses offenses up to $50 plus court costs. So 573 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:24,000 » So the ebikes and and e scooters, those things are on all sidewalks. Yes. The 574 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:28,400 others are just on State Street. And I was I was just trying to 575 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:33,200 get the understanding of that right there of which one is 576 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,079 » going to be more for more restrictive are 577 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,599 » more restricted everywhere compared to just down here, 578 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,760 » right? >> Because 579 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,359 » and we have an awful lot of people now walking State Street since they've all 580 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:47,280 been improved and the sidewalks have been improved. We have we have people 581 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:51,760 that walk elderly people who walk to the store because they don't have other 582 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:56,319 modes of transportation. Um, we have people walk to work to McDonald's and 583 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:01,280 use those. So, we we're really just concerned about um the high-speed bikes 584 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:04,960 on, >> you know, I'm I'm going to give another 585 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,160 example of something of >> this light right here. I'll give an 586 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,760 example of this. >> I was sitting I was on my moped whenever 587 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,839 I had it. I was sitting where this person could see me. I was in a I was in 588 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:20,880 something that was bright and they went over the line a little bit. They backed 589 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:26,559 right up into me. Okay. Like what what's keeping them from 590 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:29,760 exam? Like like I said, I I'm pretty big guy. If you can't see 591 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,680 me, you're not gonna see a little kid. you. And at that point, if you're if 592 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,800 you're G if you're coming through here and there's a little kid in the road on 593 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:44,480 their bike or something like that, like if it's a normal bike and they're as far 594 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:49,839 over as they get without touching a vehicle that's parked 595 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,640 and you blow past them, at least slow down a little. 596 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,280 » And I I I will say like if they don't slow down and get over because I don't 597 00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,920 know if that's a law here of stuff like that. No, [clears throat] but to be very 598 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:05,920 honest with you and just being upfront, I would hope that we're not seeing 599 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:11,599 little kids riding in the downtown area on the streets. We have side streets on 600 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:16,880 both sides. We have parallel streets on both sides of State Street that they 601 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:22,559 could make those same uh patterns and keep them out of that hightra area or 602 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:28,800 higher speed area. So, well, I thank you for your comments and we appreciate the 603 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:32,480 the uh concern and obviously as I said, it's a work in progress for us. So, 604 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,880 » thank y >> anybody else? 605 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:43,599 » All right. Well, we >> after I did my ride protest and I was 606 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:47,200 walking home because there were some people in town that were rather upset 607 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,119 that I was riding on the sides of the road for an hour and a half straight 608 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:54,079 going up and down State Street. I I would differ with you. I watched you. 609 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,640 You were riding down the middle of the road. 610 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:58,559 » I tried to get over for cars though when I could. 611 00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:02,079 » Come up behind me. >> No, you didn't. 612 00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:05,319 » You did not. >> I apologize. 613 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,960 » And I I witnessed that as well, Dustin. Okay. 614 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:15,200 » Well, on my walk home, I watched that kid on this road on his scooter. A car 615 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,599 honked at him and he almost wrecked directly into them. 616 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:24,880 Well, we wouldn't want them doing that either, but um and those are things that 617 00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:30,480 if we can notify our police and let them know that, but [clears throat] Okay, 618 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,559 » can I just say something from a police standpoint? 619 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,839 » Can you stand up, please? >> Yeah. 620 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,040 » Thank you. >> And we'll have you come up just like we 621 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:44,079 do everybody else. Thank [laughter] you. While I completely understand you guys' 622 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,119 complaints and you and I talked earlier, like he said, this is something that has 623 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:52,000 been in place for a very long time. Okay? They updated it. They didn't 624 00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:59,280 change it. They updated some new technology to that same ordinance. Okay? 625 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:03,760 While we don't want kids getting hurt, it is the parents job to educate their 626 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:08,160 children of what they're doing. And that is something that we do lack is parental 627 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,599 judgment and making sure that their kids are doing what they're supposed to. 628 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,839 Hence a lot of our juvenile issues that we have here in town. So a lot of this 629 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,400 issue is not the fact that the town has made a new ordinance or updated the 630 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:25,040 ordinance. Problem is the kids are doing things they're not supposed to in an 631 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:29,280 unsafe manner. So for the parents out there that are watching this and 632 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,800 everybody else, educate your kids on what they need to be doing. Don't be mad 633 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,440 at the police. Don't be mad at the town board. Don't be mad at people who are 634 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:41,520 trying to drive down the road. If you're in the middle of the road, you're 635 00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:46,160 blocking traffic. Guess what? You have to follow the same 636 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,480 road rules and you can't impede traffic. So, that's that's kind of where we stand 637 00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:55,440 from a law enforcement standpoint. Thank you. 638 00:51:52,640 --> 00:52:00,640 » Okay. If there anybody else want to address the council on any topic? Okay. 639 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:05,119 Well, I think we uh are near adjournment. I want to talk about 640 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:10,800 upcoming meetings. We have mobile market uh tomorrow uh down at the school from 4 641 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:15,040 to 6. So again, if uh you know if someone needs assistance, needs uh food 642 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:19,920 assistance, that is a [clears throat] great way to come and shop. Uh they 643 00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:25,760 typically can pick from 18 to 20 different items uh in lots of different 644 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:31,200 categories. And um we appreciate um Second Harvest Food Bank providing that 645 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:35,760 for us and our 8 to 10 volunteers that show up every month to help distribute 646 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:41,920 that. Uh also the Heritage Day Festival is September the 12th. Uh remember we 647 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:47,680 have bands, food trucks, vendors. Um and then we're going to have some um um 648 00:52:44,996 --> 00:52:52,960 [snorts] personal presentations. Uh Ryan Gil between bands is going to do a 649 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:57,280 presentation on Albany Glass. uh under the we have a big white tent. He'll be 650 00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:01,520 doing that then. And uh Doug Cross is going to do an Albany history uh 651 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:06,319 presentation uh during one of the other breaks between the bands. And we may 652 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:13,440 have some other things coming on. There are balloon houses uh for the younger 653 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:16,559 kids from four to six. Um and uh we just invite everybody to come down and have a 654 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,160 good day and hopefully the all of these pictures will be on display. Uh we take 655 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,440 those down and put them around the pickle ball courts. But for a lot of 656 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:28,000 people who never come to our town council meetings, [clears throat] the 657 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,319 pictures go clear back to u I think like 1932. 658 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:37,839 » Oh, 20s >> in the twi right around that date. And 659 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:41,839 we just uh uncovered two new classes like the class and I can't tell you the 660 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:48,880 exact year. Joyce has taken the pictures over to um Hobby Lobby uh to be framed. 661 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:52,960 Um my wife and I were going through an old shed that belonged to her 662 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:57,119 grandfather that uh we had demolished and before we demolished it, we went 663 00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:01,680 through and found a tote and we found this tote buried under some things that 664 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:06,400 had two of the class pictures in it. So that added So it's always good to check 665 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:10,960 those things. Joyce was taking them and and getting them fixed up, but they were 666 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:15,200 the classes of like 32 and >> a couple were in the 20s. 667 00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:22,480 » Yeah. So they were pretty old. Um but um just by luck we we got them. So um and 668 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:27,280 then u but those will be down there for people to come and look at. And uh we 669 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:32,319 are open uh we need some volunteers to help with the balloon houses from 4 to 670 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:36,720 6. Uh we're open if you have ideas on how we might grow our festival. Uh this 671 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:40,800 will just be our second year and last year was pretty much a wash out. So I 672 00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:46,160 feel like we're starting over again for the first year. Uh we may have uh we do 673 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,920 have a um uh potential and I haven't talked to Chief Fritz. He's the one he 674 00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:56,319 and his wife are chairing the committee. Uh we do have a uh refurbished wagon 675 00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:02,480 that we have been working on to get wagon runs around and hit historical 676 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:06,960 spots here in town. So and then a brief presentation at those spots. So uh it's 677 00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:11,280 it's in the beginning stages. It's a work in progress and uh if you would 678 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:15,040 like to be involved in that let us know. So nothing else I would entertain a 679 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:18,480 motion for adjournment. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. I'll 680 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:25,119 » second. Have a motion by Randy, seconded by John to adjurnn. All in favor? I. 681 00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:25,119 » We are journed.