1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Um, good evening. Welcome to the Board of License Commissioners September 3rd, 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:14,600 2026 5:30 p.m. meeting virtual only. Um, pursuant to chapter 2 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:18,280 of the Acts of 2025, this meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,320 of the public who wish to access the meeting remotely may do so by a Zoom or 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,720 by telephone. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted, 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,760 but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:35,200 the proceedings in real time via technological means. With that done, 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,760 we'll do a roll call of attendance. Um, George? 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,320 » Here. >> And Kurt? 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,200 » Here. >> And I am here. Uh, we are missing Helly 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,960 and Amanda, but we do have a quorum, so we can proceed with the meeting. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:54,720 After the call to order, the next order of business is public comment. This is 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:01:00,360 public comment unrelated to anything on the agenda. If you have such comment, 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:05,160 um, please raise your hand by pressing the raise hand button at the bottom of 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,160 your screen. 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Is there anyone here for public comment? Do you see anyone, Steve? No. 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,560 » Seeing nobody. >> Okay. 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:20,160 Nobody. Okay, in that case, we can move on to agenda item three, licenses. 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Um, A, special short-term liquor license applications, SST-25-26-55, 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:34,200 John Page, Amherst Bid Wine and Malt, to 9:00 in Realign Park on North Pleasant 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Street. Is John here? He must be. 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:45,480 » John is not able to attend today, but we do have, um, Bruce Mac Amis who will be 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:48,320 the manager of the event, who is, uh, able to speak. 24 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 » Great. >> Hi, well, welcome, Bruce. 25 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,280 » Hi. >> Hey, Bruce. 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,400 » Hi, everybody. >> Um, 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:00,600 so this is a new thing for the block party? 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:05,160 » Yeah, it I guess it is. The truth is I'm a little under brief today. I thought 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:10,679 that John was going to be here. But I you know, I'm certainly prepared 30 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:15,520 to to speak to what we've done um you know, many times you know, a number 31 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:20,760 of times in the past and that we would you know, plan to 32 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:24,040 to to repeat if if we were to get the permit for this 33 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:27,680 event. >> Okay. 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,240 Um So um 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,200 What I have a question. I guess um 36 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:40,000 about the about the heading and Steve maybe you can also answer this. So it 37 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:45,440 says primary location 122 North Pleasant Street. And then owner Roman Catholic 38 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Bishop of Springfield. >> So that um 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,600 » Does the the the church own that Does the diocese own that 40 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,560 that part? >> No, so that's actually been that's 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,880 actually been corrected. That was an that's from an earlier revision. But 42 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:06,959 that that is um it's now 220 North Pleasant Street. 43 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,959 And in both of those cases it's just a reflection that 44 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:14,800 our system doesn't really encompass the public way very well. 45 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,320 » Oh, okay. Got you. >> it'll be in the public way in front of 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,640 220 North Pleasant Street. >> 220 North Okay, great. And so the annual 47 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:27,560 block party and so you're going to fence off this part of realignment park. 48 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:29,640 And um 49 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,840 There's a description. There's a little beer and wine garden. 50 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,160 So is this going to be sort of like the one 51 00:03:34,519 --> 00:03:38,840 that they have off the common occasionally? 52 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:46,640 » Uh Um I I guess I'm not if if that's to me 53 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:51,800 this is Bruce here. Um I'm not I'm not familiar with that with 54 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:59,120 the event you're referring to. But But as you say would have a fenced-off area 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:04,000 um as as shown on the map, you know, that and we're 56 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:08,040 we're checking IDs upon entry and and have wristbands wristbands for people 57 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:13,560 who with with with positive ID. And then 58 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,200 you know, our staff is all TIPS certified 59 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,480 um you know, and so it's it's 60 00:04:19,382 --> 00:04:23,080 » [clears throat] >> it's a sort of thing that we have a fair 61 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:27,800 amount of experience with at this point. >> Right. And so just because it's um 62 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 like a different event from the stuff that happens on the common 63 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,360 um so the perimeter of this thing and there 64 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,040 going to be like it says 7 to 10,000 people maybe wandering up and down the 65 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,640 street that and it says that you are going to practice perimeter control. How 66 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:46,160 are you going to do that? >> Um that 67 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:50,600 so I guess um 68 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:55,240 I guess that the um um I mean I think that the short answer 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:59,000 is that we have to have you know, we will need I didn't realize 70 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:04,520 the perimeter frankly was was quite as large as it's depicted on this map here. 71 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:08,880 As I said, I'm sort of a a last minute drafty here to 72 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:14,400 to represent and I thought that John was going to be present. So anyhow, I mean I 73 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:17,560 think we we clearly need volunteers you know, to um 74 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,880 be given the size of this area, we'll need 75 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,440 some some extra bodies to to keep an eye on the 76 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:29,520 you know, on the perimeter and make sure that we are are maintaining control. I 77 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:34,600 mean as I said though, we do have a a backup in the sense that everybody who 78 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:39,960 you know, that we will be using wristbands for people to obtain 79 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,880 obtain alcohol. >> Okay. 80 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:48,680 » According to what's written here, it says that there will be fencing. 81 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,720 It will be clearly marked with fencing and signage. 82 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,080 » Okay. >> Then the management according to the 83 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,400 management plan. >> Okay. 84 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,880 » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. There's there's 85 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Yeah, there will be there will be a fence, you know, a sort of a fenced 86 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:07,400 area. >> Okay. All right. 87 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:11,920 Um great. Uh any other questions 88 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,400 from the board? 89 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:23,200 » So it looks like this thing is at the 90 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:26,760 way at the end of the sort of this outdoor celebration. 91 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,080 » Mhm. >> Uh is that right? Am I getting that 92 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:35,040 right? So where that white truck used I guess that's last year's picture 93 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:40,919 or the year before. I guess all that will be that will be gone. 94 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,720 I'm assuming. Um 95 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,720 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 96 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:53,680 » Yeah, I I mean I I I think that that that truck just happens to be you know, 97 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:57,600 to be there in that picture from last year. But yeah, it's clearly at the you 98 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:02,600 know, at that far end of of North Pleasant Street. Um 99 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:05,600 you know, sort of opposite um opposite oh gosh. Um 100 00:07:05,099 --> 00:07:07,560 » [laughter] >> I was just thinking about the the 101 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,880 restaurant across >> I thought it was protocol. 102 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:15,000 » Protocol, exactly. Yeah, thank you. I had a 103 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,480 mental block there for a second. But uh Yeah. 104 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:22,280 » Okay. >> So it's it's like it's by the cow 105 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,280 statue. Yes? 106 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,880 That statue that Yeah. >> That's the alignment park there. 107 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 » Okay. >> Okay. 108 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,400 » The little little piece of the park, not the not 109 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,960 the whole Kendrick Park. >> Correct. 110 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,840 » Right. >> Is this part of the park? 111 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:43,240 » Is this part of Kendrick Park? >> No, it's it's it's like across If you 112 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,160 keep scrolling down, just a little There we go. 113 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,240 » Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. >> go. 114 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,320 » Yeah, it's at the end there, and there's a street that runs in between the two of 115 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,160 them. >> Got it. Got it. Okay. 116 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,320 » And it's at the other end of the street from where the stage is, right? 117 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,640 » Right. >> Right. 118 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,800 » Right, right, right. Okay. >> At the other end. Okay. 119 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:04,680 » So, the reason that I'm asking is because that would be the direction that 120 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:08,840 the college kids come from. Um I presume, right? If they're coming 121 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,880 from UMass. Um 122 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:16,440 and I'm not really sure how many college kids actually participate in this, but 123 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Yeah, I think you know, the the 124 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,240 the uh the guard lines the guidelines that you 125 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,840 have in place, you know, with the fencing and the wristbands and stuff 126 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:34,479 would be uh particularly important 127 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:38,000 um I would think in that position where it's located. 128 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:42,960 » Mhm. >> Well, the fact that there'll be uh 129 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,640 police officers in the vicinity, too, >> Yeah. 130 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,120 » would be good a disincentive for any underage person. 131 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,800 » Yeah. >> Okay. 132 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,720 Yeah, I'm cool. >> Yeah, but I you know, I'd be happy As I 133 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:59,839 said, our staff is is TIPS certified and and experienced at this sort of thing. I 134 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:04,839 do think that, you know, as I said, um the perimeter is maybe a little bit um a 135 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:09,760 little bit larger than, you know, than I had anticipated, in which case 136 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,520 you know, I think we could um probably work with the bid to uh 137 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:15,600 uh you know, help 138 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:21,160 identify some potential volunteers or some way of having a few extra bodies to 139 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:25,480 um make sure that we're monitoring that perimeter. 140 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:30,800 You know, like when we have when we did the wine festival uh this year, our our 141 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Italian wine festival, you know, that was under a tent, and it was a a 142 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:39,000 relatively um it was a relatively tight perimeter that 143 00:09:36,839 --> 00:09:43,400 we could um you know that there weren't many access points uh 144 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:46,360 in there without with the flaps on the tent down. So, it was easy to keep an 145 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,760 eye on it. >> Yeah. 146 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:55,240 » So, you know, I'm I'm willing you know, I'm I totally understand that um 147 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:59,360 that this has a little bit um this is a little bit tougher to control, 148 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:03,200 but I'm I'm willing to you know, we're certainly willing to work with the bid 149 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:07,880 to identify um you know, as I said some ways to get 150 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:12,560 extra bodies on site that would be able to help us keep an eye on the perimeter. 151 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,680 » Okay. Fantastic. Great. Any other questions? 152 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:20,120 Um Steve, is there anything else outstanding on this one or any 153 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:26,680 particular way we should word the motion? 154 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:30,480 » I believe we are still waiting for um payment on this. Let me just 155 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,360 double-check if that's come in since I last checked. No, that has been paid. 156 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,080 So, that is we have everything we need. >> Okay. 157 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,920 » Great. >> Great. 158 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Um so, there's nothing outstanding um that you'll talk to the bid about a few 159 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:50,520 extra people to monitor the perimeter. Um in that case, is there a motion to 160 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:53,600 approve What is this SST -26-55? 161 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,480 Oh, was that George? >> So moved. 162 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,880 » So, okay. Thank you, George, for the motion and the second, Kurt? 163 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,960 » Sure. >> Thank you. And if there's no further 164 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,120 discussion, we'll take a vote. Uh George? 165 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,839 » I. >> Kurt? 166 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,640 » Yes, I. >> And I vote I. That is three to zero with 167 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,680 two absent and the license has been approved. Thanks so much, Bruce, for 168 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,400 coming in. >> Okay. Thanks very much, everybody. Have 169 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,760 a good evening. >> Have a good day. 170 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,839 » All right. Thanks, everybody. >> Okay. So, now we go on to the food truck 171 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:30,720 hours. Um Chilango's Tacos. 172 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:34,480 » Yeah, actually there's more than just an ask for hours. there's also an ask 173 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,120 about locations. >> Yeah, there were two things on that 174 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,760 letter. Yes. Here from the taco place or no? 175 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:45,440 » I don't know if anybody is here for that. Okay, we do have somebody. 176 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,200 » Okay. >> And yes, Kurt, yeah, there are some 177 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:55,840 other requests besides the hours. There is a procedure that um custom location 178 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,560 request needs to go through that has not been completed yet. So, 179 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:05,080 um that would be outside of um the scope of this approval, but the hours location 180 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,840 could be considered. >> So, the hours, what do they currently 181 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,960 have? 1:00? Oh, hi. Is that >> Hi. 182 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,440 » Hi, how are you? Um >> Good, how are you? 183 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:18,760 » so much so for coming. And um so you what do you currently have on your 184 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:23,160 license? Are you 1:00 in the morning or >> Uh 185 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:26,400 no, we're just uh 10:00 to 8:00 p.m. >> Oh, okay. 186 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,640 » Yeah. >> Yeah, okay, but Steve, we have been 187 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:36,280 having them open as late as Is it 3:00 you wanted? 188 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:40,560 » Yes, 3:00 a.m. >> Is that We have We've been doing that 189 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:46,360 with the other food trucks, Steve? >> Um I I will review quickly and see. I 190 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,120 know that there was some There have been one for 3:00 at at one point. 191 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,120 » Right. >> been definitely some for 2:00 in recent 192 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,080 times. >> Right. 193 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Yeah, if 2:00 is the max, that's fine, too. Just a little later, just when the 194 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,720 college students are back. >> Right. 195 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:07,200 » We understand. >> Yeah, no, I totally get it. What time I 196 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:10,040 thought that it was 2:00. >> That's 197 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,920 what I'm thinking, but >> Yeah. 198 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,520 » I should double-check on that. >> I don't believe there's any official 199 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,920 limit on what the board could give. It's just um 200 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,839 just a question of what the board wants to. 201 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,000 » Okay. >> Yeah, all all all our regs say is that 202 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:29,800 if it's outside of 8:00 to 8:00 that it It special approval on a per location 203 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,200 basis. >> Okay. 204 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:39,680 Yeah, so we Yeah, we were just asking if it could be that a little bit later and 205 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,560 then if we could be where the halal cart is, but once he leaves if we can move 206 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,600 over there. Like in front of St. Bridget's Parish. 207 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:51,680 » Oh, okay. So Okay, so you want to go I thought it 208 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,600 were moving in front of the Um and that that spot is already 209 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,560 approved, right? >> Yeah. 210 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,520 » Yeah, but there there is a catch though, Marian. 211 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:04,840 Um I I don't know how to pronounce your 212 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,120 first name. I apologize. >> My first name? 213 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,880 » Yeah. >> Sitlalli. 214 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,120 » Sitlalli. I just I just want to mispronounce. 215 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:20,080 » It's okay. >> Now so Sitlalli here is asking 216 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:24,320 about being in the parking space not on the sidewalk in front of St. 217 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Bridget's. Am I correct about that, Sitlalli? 218 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,640 » No, I'm asking about being on the sidewalk. 219 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,560 » Oh, okay. >> Okay, cuz in the letter the first 220 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,560 location so for the extended hours you want to be on the sidewalk in front of 221 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:38,720 St. Bridget's. >> Yeah, the other one is the one that 222 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Steve said that needed a longer approval. 223 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,640 » Right. That's the one I'm going to still say. All right, okay. 224 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,680 » Yeah. >> That's a different process as far as 225 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:51,320 Yeah. So but as far as being and that's where that halal guy goes. 226 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:55,280 » Yeah, we would just move over there once he leaves cuz we don't want to 227 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:59,839 » Yeah, I think that's fine. I mean as far as I Yeah, that's fine 228 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:03,680 cuz it's already an approved site and I think the later hours are also fine. 229 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,640 Um >> So where are you again before the halal 230 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,280 cart moves? >> Um right now we're on 231 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:17,440 North Pleasant I think it is like south of Spring Street right where the town 232 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:20,600 common is. >> Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. 233 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,920 Yeah, over there. >> Yeah, that's where we park right now. 234 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,880 » Right, but late at night you'd want to be 235 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,400 » Okay. >> closer to 236 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,600 » Yeah, more Yeah, to the bars and stuff. >> Yeah. 237 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,960 » And what time does the halal cart close down? 238 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:38,080 » He usually when we've driven by, he's out of there by like 5:00, 5:30. 239 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,640 » Mhm. >> Oh, 5:30 in the evening. 240 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,240 » Yeah. >> Oh, okay. 241 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,560 » He's He's >> Cuz I know there's one that hangs out 242 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:54,000 There's one that hangs out at the common uh on some evenings and he's 243 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:58,440 he's usually there like when I come out of 244 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:03,600 you know, when I come out of um you know, listening to jazz at the Drake 245 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,600 you know, he's doing business at, you know, 9:00, 9:30 at night. 246 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,880 Uh >> I believe I I believe the one um you're 247 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,640 referring to by the Unitarian Church, he I think he usually leaves about 7:00. 248 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 » Okay. >> And and and you're And not you, George. 249 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,400 Not Not you, George. The one the advocate was referring to. Yeah, you're 250 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,200 right about the other one. >> Okay. 251 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:30,000 » Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay, so So, the location is fine. 252 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:34,960 Um Mary and I think from our our regs, if it's outside of 8:00 to 8:00 253 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,560 per location, we're supposed to approve it. So, that sounds like we ought to do 254 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:43,360 a quick vote. Yes? >> Right. We need to do a vote on that. 255 00:16:40,839 --> 00:16:48,360 » I would um I would recommend three motions. Um the first would be to Right 256 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:52,839 now, the board last approved this application as an on-street vehicle. I 257 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:57,960 would recommend a motion to just reclassify it as an on-street and 258 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:03,320 on-sidewalk vehicle. And then um the board could take motions to extend the 259 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:09,560 hours in um either that Unitarian Church spot um or the um common spot or both. 260 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:14,480 » Okay. All right. So, the first motion is to 261 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:18,480 designate this as an both an on-street and on-sidewalk lunch cart. Is there a 262 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,319 motion to do that? >> it. 263 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:25,120 » Thank you, Kurt. Is there a second? >> Second. 264 00:17:22,439 --> 00:17:27,000 » And we'll take a vote. Uh Kurt? >> Yes. 265 00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:29,120 » George? >> Yes. 266 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,880 » I vote yes. That is three to zero with one absent. You now have the designation 267 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,800 to be both on sidewalk and on street. >> Okay. Thank you. 268 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:41,440 » Yeah, you're welcome. Um the next one was to um 269 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Oh my gosh, what was the second one? >> Hours. 270 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 » The hours. To extend the 271 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,720 » Yeah. >> extend the hours for both locations. I 272 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,000 thought we had three motions, Steve. >> He was thinking one motion each for each 273 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,480 location, I think. >> Oh, okay. 274 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:56,160 » You could do that, too. You could do it as one motion. 275 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,840 » We could We could do both. >> Okay. So, we can we do Is there a motion 276 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:03,720 to extend the hours? And what are those hours going to be? Is it three Is 277 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,480 everyone okay with 3:00 as asked? Or would you prefer 2:00, which I think is 278 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:11,080 what we the others have Some of the others have. 279 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Um >> You know, it 280 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,800 doesn't matter to me. I'm not sure they would do much business after 2:00 a.m., 281 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,600 but you know, I don't hang out downtown at 282 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:24,240 that late at night, so I don't know. >> Yeah. 283 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:29,320 So, Kurt, any ideas? >> Um what time do our bars close? 284 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:32,240 » 1:00. >> 1:00. That's right. 285 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,880 » Yeah. >> Yeah, I I Yeah, I I I kind of was with 286 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,920 George that that even if we approve three, there's probably not going to be 287 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,520 that many people at 2:30. >> But 288 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,560 give them a time to break it to break it down, right? 289 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:51,160 » Yeah. Yeah, so I I I I don't think probably 290 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,720 » Who knows? It doesn't Either way. >> All right. 291 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:57,440 Well, how about we just go with three? >> Okay. 292 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:03,240 » Um so, we can approve the location in front of the Unitarian Church and um 293 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,920 North Pleasant Street at Spring Street. Is that where your other location is? 294 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,120 » Yeah. >> All right. 295 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:13,080 Is there a motion to approve both of those locations for this lunch cart 296 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:15,360 until 3:00 a.m.? >> So moved. 297 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,040 » Thank you, George. And a second, thank you, Kurt. We'll take a vote. Uh Kurt? 298 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,560 » Yes. >> George? 299 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,680 » Yes. >> And I vote yes. That is three to zero 300 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:29,960 with one absent. And you've been approved for those two locations with 301 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:35,000 the extended hours and to do on-sidewalk business. And then you have to 302 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:41,400 go through them make an official application to extend 303 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:45,120 into that loc- that new location in front of Dulceria. And that's you can 304 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,480 talk to Steve about the process for that. 305 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,640 » Okay, thank you guys so much. >> You're welcome. Thanks so much for 306 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:55,360 coming in. >> Thank you. Bye. Have a good night. 307 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,360 » Have a good fall. Bye-bye. 308 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:03,840 » Okay. So Great. Well, that's good. 309 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:08,800 Um next up discussing topics, hearing procedures. 310 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:13,760 And uh I think we covered the hearing procedures and um adopted 311 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,560 different language for them. Correct, Steve? Do we need to vote on these right 312 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:21,240 now or >> That's correct. No motions necessary. Um 313 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:25,240 I will provide the the final edited draft at our next meeting. 314 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:30,680 » Right, fantastic. Thank you. Um upcoming meetings and agendas. 315 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:34,640 So today is the third and we are on 316 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:39,280 So I could possibly zoom another zoom meeting on the 17th 317 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:44,400 as per our schedule. Um is there anything coming up 318 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,800 like any big licenses coming up, Steve? >> Not to my knowledge, no. 319 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,760 » Okay. >> Um so our our next meeting's in person? 320 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:56,840 » Well, originally it was this was supposed to be in person and then the 321 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,280 next one was already scheduled for zoom. So everyone has it on their schedule for 322 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,600 zoom. Yes, Kurt. >> Just an observation. The 17th happens to 323 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:09,640 be when the block party with 7 to 10,000 people's happening. So I'd either 324 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,120 suggest we do Zoom or we switch it to a different night. 325 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,440 » Okay. It was originally Zoom, so why don't we 326 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,200 keep it Zoom? And then 327 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:22,480 next our October meeting which is what the first 328 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:24,880 will be in person. >> Okay. 329 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,640 » Is that okay or did you want to move it to another night? 330 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:34,280 » Kind of was planning going to the block party, but I guess I can still do that. 331 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,160 We'll probably have a fairly short >> the right. 332 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Hopefully the agenda won't be too big. We can just bolt out of here afterwards. 333 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,440 » Yeah. Okay. We'll keep it short and sweet, I 334 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:47,280 promise. >> And then October 1st, that's going to be 335 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,200 in person. >> In person. 336 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:55,160 » I got to put that down. I don't have that on my schedule. 337 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:59,920 » And then the 15th would be the next Zoom one as per our regular schedule now. 338 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,880 » When's the next one after the 1st? >> The 15th. 339 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,800 » Uh the 15th. >> Okay. 340 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 I got lots of stuff going on in the fall. 341 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,360 Just making sure I'm not having schedule problems. 342 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:16,440 » I won't I won't be here for the 15th. I'll be flying out of town. 343 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,440 » Will you be here on the 22nd? 344 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:23,720 » Yes. >> Okay, well because we have the luxury of 345 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:27,400 one to five Thursdays. >> Yeah, so I would I would be here. I I 346 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,720 return on the 19th, so I would definitely be here the 22nd. 347 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:35,680 » Okay. Kurt, are you here on the 22nd? 348 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:39,560 » Wait a second. Oh, yeah, the 22nd is a Thursday. No, I will not be here on the 349 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,520 22nd. >> Okay. 350 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:47,640 » At least for the time being, Mary, and I'm spending our opposite Thursdays with 351 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,320 the ZBA, so I will likely not be available on the 22nd, although I don't 352 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,560 think there's anything Pardon me, scheduled for that third Thursday or 353 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:59,280 that fifth Thursday on the 29th. >> 29th. Okay. Well, let's make it we'll 354 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:04,160 meet on the the Zoom meeting on the 1st unless there's nothing going on, in 355 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:08,200 which case we'll either move it or not have it. And then we'll have 356 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,520 um a Zoom meeting on the 29th. 357 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,240 » Okay. >> So, that gives us a lot of time for 358 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,600 people to And then we start moving into renewal 359 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:24,560 season. >> So, just to clarify, so Zoom on 9/17 360 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:28,640 in person or Zoom on October 1st? >> In person. 361 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:32,360 » Okay. And Zoom on the not the 15th, but maybe the 30th or 29th? 362 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,400 » 29th. >> Okay. 363 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,400 » Yeah. 364 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Okay. >> All right. So, the first is a town hall. 365 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,720 » Yes. 366 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,400 » Great. 367 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,200 » Okay. And um 368 00:23:53,360 --> 00:24:00,800 So, that solves that for upcoming meetings. 369 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,440 Um all right, approval of minutes. Has everyone had a chance to Everyone 370 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,200 want to take a minute to look at the minutes? 371 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:13,000 » Yeah, can somebody post them? Steve? 372 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Oh, good. Okay, great. >> Oh, there they are. All right. 373 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Call to order, presence of a quorum. 374 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Oh, what happened? 375 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,240 » Is it still visible? >> Yeah, I can see it. 376 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,240 » Yeah. 377 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:07,120 » What's the name of this new place again? >> Um 378 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Little Patronis. >> Okay. 379 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:18,080 Neapolitan pizza and Italian-American classics, okay. 380 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,080 What happened to the Public House? 381 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,960 » Um >> They closed out too much fanfare. 382 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:29,560 » Yeah, that's yeah. Okay. 383 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,560 » Yeah, there was an issue with them. 384 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Very experienced ownership group. Yeah. 385 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Definitely. Okay. 386 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,040 Little Patronis, John Page. 387 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,520 » Capturing who moved and and so forth, which is good. 388 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,200 » All right, it looks good to me. >> Okay, I wasn't there, so I'll take your 389 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:04,960 word for it. >> Kurt, not a funny 390 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:09,680 All right. Is there a motion to approve the um 391 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:14,360 Thank you, Kurt, and a second. Thank you, George. Um all in favor. 392 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 George. >> Yes. 393 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,360 » I. >> Yes. 394 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,680 » Yes. And I vote yes, that is three to zero with two absent, and the minutes 395 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,720 are approved. Thank you so much, Steve, for sending those. 396 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:33,880 Um all right, where are we at? Topics not anticipated by the chair 48 hours in 397 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:39,320 advance of this meeting. I don't have any topics. Does anyone 398 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:44,560 else have any topics? Steve? >> I did I did learn that um Garcia's has 399 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:48,440 closed permanently. >> Yeah, I heard that also. That was Was 400 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,880 that in the paper or something? >> Yeah, it was in the Daily Hampshire 401 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,160 Gazette today. >> Oh, really? Okay. 402 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Oh, that's no good. Okay. >> Yeah. 403 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:02,240 » That's too bad. They were a good restaurant. 404 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,480 » Yeah, I wonder what happened. >> I don't know. Restaurant business is 405 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,160 tough. >> It really is tough. Yeah. Especially, 406 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,680 you know, when the students leave town, I don't they may not be able to generate 407 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,920 enough of a margin during the summer to keep open, you know. 408 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:19,680 » Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. Especially with um 409 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:22,120 Yeah. Something that's not >> There 410 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:26,400 used to be quite a bit of competition for that that type of food. 411 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:29,640 » Yeah, for Mexican food, yes. Especially with the food trucks, right? I mean 412 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:35,440 » There's food trucks, there's restaurants, there's there's restaurants 413 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:37,240 in South Amherst, in North Amherst. >> Yeah. 414 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,440 » Yeah. But, we're speculating, so, you know. 415 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,160 » Yeah, who knows? >> Well, that's too bad. I hope they get a 416 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,120 new tenant. And um I'm sure we'll hear about that, too. 417 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,800 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 418 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Okay. >> Oh, by the way, the um 419 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,320 R&P Liquors is now open. >> Oh, good. Okay. 420 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,320 » Just opened the other day. >> Great. 421 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,040 » I haven't been in yet, but I'm going to check it out tomorrow, I think. 422 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,360 I'll let you know. >> Yeah, report back. 423 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,840 » I'll report back. >> Excellent. Thank you. 424 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,240 Um okay, if there are no other topics, is there a motion to adjourn? 425 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,400 » Sure. I'll I'll motion to adjourn. >> Thank you, Kurt. And a second? 426 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,800 » Second. >> Thanks, George. Uh we'll take a vote. Uh 427 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Kurt? >> Yes. 428 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,920 » Uh George? >> I. 429 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,840 » And I vote yes. That is three to zero with two absent, and we're adjourned at 430 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,480 5:58 p.m. Thanks. 431 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160 » All right. Thanks, everybody. >> See you Friday. 432 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,920 » Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Steve. We'll see you at the next one. 433 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,680 » See you on the 17th. >> Thank you all very much. 434 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,600 » All right. Thank you, Steve. We'll see you right for the block party. Have a 435 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,000 good long weekend. >> See you guys. 436 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000 » Goodbye.