1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Good evening. Good evening. Welcome to the January 20th, 2026 meeting of the Hashtun Town Council. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:26,000 I appreciate you being here this evening. We just start out asking it to join me in a moment of silence, just to reflect on what you need to reflect on at this time of this day. Please join me. 3 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Thank you. Mr. Vice Mayor, would you lead us in the pledge? 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Please stand as you're able. 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:48,000 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic of which it stands, one nation under God, and either visible with the liberty to join us this morning. 6 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Thank you. 7 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:58,000 We'll go ahead and take a look at our agenda for this evening. 8 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,000 We have our consent agenda, which includes minutes from the January 6th, 2026 Council meeting. 9 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,000 We have an item B, Councillor PUD, text amendment referral. 10 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 We had the Ashtun Police Department window entryway project. 11 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Then we'll have a presentation, which will be fun. 12 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Administration of oath of office to our new cat police chief in our dog mayor. 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Well, citizen input time, opportunity for an individual to come before council and bring an item that they would like to share with council. 14 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 We have two public hearings. 15 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:46,000 First, an ordinance 2026-01 to extend the deadline for tax payments. 16 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,000 We have an ordinance 2025-12 conditional rezoning amendment. 17 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:58,000 We have one action item at this time, memorandum of understanding when homelessness outreach services. 18 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,000 And we have reports from the planning department, finance department, and police department. 19 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Now, understand, council members we've had some discussion as individuals with one another and or with the town manager concerning one of the items in the consent agenda. 20 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:24,000 And so I'll just pause here for a minute and ask whether there's a motion to make a change to the consent agenda. 21 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion, please. 22 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000 I'd like to motion to move the consent agenda item B to the action item B. 23 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,000 A second. 24 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Mr. Barnhart. 25 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Aye. 26 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Mr. Sopal. 27 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Aye. 28 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Mr. Malloy. 29 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Aye. 30 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Dr. McGraw. 31 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Aye. 32 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Aye. 33 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:57,000 So, presented the agenda as printed and we've made an adjustment to take consent item B and move it to action item B. 34 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 And so, with that change, is there consensus for the agenda as presented? 35 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Yes. 36 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Okay. All right. 37 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 All right. 38 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:16,000 So, now I'll ask whether or not there's any questions, comments or a motion for the consent agenda, which includes item A and item C. 39 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Well, Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the consent agenda as amended. 40 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Is there a second? 41 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Second. 42 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 All right. Thank you. 43 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Mr. Barnhart. 44 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Aye. 45 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Mr. Paul. 46 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Aye. 47 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Mr. Malloy. 48 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Dr. McGraw. 49 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Aye. 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Mayor Trevette. 51 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Aye. 52 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 All right. Thank you. 53 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 And that brings us to our presentation. 54 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Administration of oath of office and Mr. Goodman. 55 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 We're going to follow your leads. 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And looking forward to this. 57 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Good evening, Council. 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I know it wasn't on the agenda. 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 But Mr. Goodman asked me to just give a little background in context. 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 So people are wondering why he's swearing a dog into an office. 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 We held our first ever pet election this year. 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 As a means to do some fun community engagement. 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Get people excited. 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,000 And as you can imagine, because of the community that we have, the outpouring was significant. 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 We received over 20 nominations for each office. 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And those were narrow down to five finalists that went into a public voting process. 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:25,000 And we received nearly 2,000 votes from the community to elect these two lovely pets to their term. 68 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 They'll serve for one year. 69 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,000 And hopefully you can look forward to seeing them at community events and different things throughout the year. 70 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 But we're just so grateful to their owners who have been such great sports. 71 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Of course, bringing them out this evening. 72 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 And I will just add a little plug. 73 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Hopefully Dr. Hill does not mind me mentioning this. 74 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:51,000 But he did mention today that he had recently been in contact with the recently sworn and lieutenant governor of Virginia. 75 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And he mentioned Ashlyn and Randolph-Macon. 76 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 And she said, oh, you're dogs the mayor, right? 77 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 So we are getting some positive notoriety. 78 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 We'll take it. 79 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Center of the universe and home of the dog mayor and the cat police chief. 80 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 So without further ado, I'll take Mr. Goodman. 81 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 And I believe trouble man is up first. 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 All right. 83 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Thank you. 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Mr. Mayor, I was a council. 85 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:24,000 trouble man, if you could come on up here and trouble man's mom. 86 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 If you was a stand right here, right up here. 87 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 And face that way. 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 And that camera is going to capture Mr. trouble man. 89 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 So. 90 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 I can't. 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 So do this. 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 You have cameras facing both directions. 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 However, he wants to do it. 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 So I am going to read the oath. 95 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 And then we'll just look for some sort of affirmation from the end of the 96 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 understand. 97 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 It's how about that. 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Very good. 99 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Most unique thing I've had to do in my service. 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Okay. 101 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 So we're going to, we're not going to, we're going to forego the raising the right hand, 102 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 because that might be a little challenging. 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 So the oath of office for the cat police chief is I, 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 trouble man, do solemnly swear to faithfully serve as the cat police chief 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 of the town of Asselin, Virginia. 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,000 For a term of one year commencing, that's fine. 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 We reached 20, 20, 26. 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 I promised to uphold peace and order to protect the laps and 109 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 porches and sunny windows. 110 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 To investigate suspicious noises and road red dogs. 111 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And to enforce all laws governing treats, 112 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 nafs, and the proper chin scratches. 113 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,000 I will serve a courage, courtesy, and a little bit of mischief. 114 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Always in the best interest of the people of Asselin. 115 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 And just wag you tail, if you agree. 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Oh, I got it. 117 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Good. 118 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,000 All right. 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:52,000 We have some official things up here for cat chiefs. 120 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 We have some official things up here for cat chiefs. 121 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 So I come in and we are on the ground. 122 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 And then we are on the ground. 123 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 We would like to hear a special. 124 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Uh-huh. 125 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 You have a lot of stuff. 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 I'm crying. 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I'm crying. 128 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Good boy. 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Yeah. 130 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 All right. 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 I want to go with you. 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Well done, kitty. 133 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 I want to go with you. 134 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I want to go with you. 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 I want to go with you. 136 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 I want to go with you. 137 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 I want to go with you. 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 And now we would like to welcome up Wilbur. 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 And his dad, not Wil. 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 And similarly, if we can stand and put up the podium here, 141 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 that camera might catch him a little bit better. 142 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 We're putting our AV guy, the awes behind the break. 143 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Magical curtain to work tonight. 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 So gone, do your best. 145 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Sir, as best you can. 146 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 So again, we will read the oath. 147 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 And we will just look for an affirmation from Wilbur. 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 After the fact that he don't mind Dr. Hill. 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Both of office for dog mayor. 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 I will work. 151 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Do solemnly swear. 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 To faithfully serve as the dog mayor. 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 For the town of Ashland, Virginia. 154 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 For a term. 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 A book here. 156 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Commencing January 20th. 157 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 2026. 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I promise to greet all residents with enthusiasm. 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 To listen carefully, even when distracted by squirrels. 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,000 To promote unity, joy, and frequent outdoor walks. 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,000 And to represent Ashland with loyalty, kindness, and tailwags for all. 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 I will lead with heart. 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Fets when asked. 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And always be a good boy. 165 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:56,000 All right, there we go. 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:12,000 This is a process. 167 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Oh. 168 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Yeah. 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 That's your good dog. 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:43,000 May your trevets good to know you have back up now, sir. 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Well, when I get a hard case, we do a referral. 172 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Thank you. 173 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 It's terrific. 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Yes. 175 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:12,000 All right. 176 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Thank you for that presentation. 177 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 We're going to stay on a theme here for sort of 178 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,000 animal night and invite Sherry Burton. 179 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,000 One of our town citizens who likes to write poetry, 180 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,000 pertaining to the town, invite her to come and read a poem. 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:41,000 And I think we'll understand who it's about. 182 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Okay. 183 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Okay. 184 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Okay. 185 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 This one, if you can see, it says, 186 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 I'm happy now. 187 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Yes. 188 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Now. 189 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Whoa. 190 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 This one. 191 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Okay. 192 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Now, this one. 193 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 The water. 194 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And we're doing a place that's very dry. 195 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Okay. 196 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Now, this one. 197 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:35,000 I swear on this one. 198 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Okay. 199 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,000 And this is great to be off. 200 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Ashwin Virginia. 201 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Hey. 202 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Ashley Virginia. 203 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Or even our critters. 204 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Yeah. 205 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,000 This is in my poem. 206 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Ashley Virginia. 207 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 It's not my lip. 208 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 It's peanut butter. 209 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Yes. 210 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,000 And I work today on this picture. 211 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Ashley Virginia. 212 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 And this one. 213 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Okay. 214 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 This is one of my favorites. 215 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,000 I'm nearly so bright home. 216 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,000 That's good. 217 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Okay. 218 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 And now. 219 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 For my poem. 220 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Ashwin Virginia. 221 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 ABC Store. 222 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,000 A rascal raccoon got into too much holiday spirits. 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 News flash. 224 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 And Ashwin Virginia. 225 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Hangover. 226 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 And then handover. 227 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 ABC Store. 228 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 A very naughty raccoon banding. 229 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Preferred his liquor straight up. 230 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 No ice. 231 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 No mask. 232 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Is definitely into a holiday spirits. 233 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Okay. 234 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Here's my poem. 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 I'm a rascal of a raccoon. 236 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,000 I was so happy. 237 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:21,000 While happy I was delicious, pure and broship for me. 238 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Battles knocked out broken pieces. 239 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Couldn't help made a mess. 240 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Well, trucks is the holiday season. 241 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 ubl突 a toast. 242 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,000 We all are blessed. 243 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,840 When she said, how it ain't not, could tell vodka was made of the right stuff. 244 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,880 Licked a patron silver tequila. 245 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,880 That will do too. 246 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Next I tip, see through the puddles, and found my next clue. 247 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:04,960 Snap my lips, peanut butter whiskey, high as a roar coaster ride, I passed out just short 248 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:11,760 of the potty, foiled my escape, now stuck inside. 249 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Anybody heard of drunk as a stunt? 250 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Well, here is trash coon in a bathroom. 251 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Slepted, often animal control shelter, and nebryated me, woke up release on the wild run, 252 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,280 get out of jail car, I am free. 253 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:41,560 When I thought back of sweet sippings, foggling and grinning, so bright, Ashwin's my kind 254 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:47,040 of town, holiday spirits, pure delight. 255 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:59,040 All right, guys, all right, that may be hard to follow, but citizen input, I misopened 256 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000 We'd like to come forward and speak to Council on a matter that is not one of our public hearings. 257 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:16,000 All right. See, and that one, we'll go ahead and close our citizen input time, and move on to our first public hearing. 258 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:26,000 For it is 2026-01, extend deadline for tax payments. Mr. Goodman and Mr. Guard. 259 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Shugart and I will tag team this item if you don't mind. 260 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:51,000 We have before you tonight as staff requesting a public hearing and consideration of adoption of ordinance 2026-01, which is a companion to the resolution council pass of the first meeting in January. 261 00:15:51,000 --> 00:16:05,000 I'm sorry, yes, the resolution. If you recall, we've just been struggling with our software vendor, back in with getting tax bills out, historically they've gone out in the first week of December. 262 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Mr. Shugart has been working day and night weekends trying to get this back in one line and her efforts have been actually incredible. 263 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Low history, back in January 26th of 2026, town council adopted resolution 2026-02 to provide staff to extend the deadline to accept taxes to the maximum up to 90 days allowed by state code. 264 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:43,000 That was more direction to staff, this ordinance codifies that, but also allows for pushing out any penalties and interest to that new due date as well, where the resolution didn't have the power to do that. 265 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,000 So that's why this is a two-part process. So with that, I will turn it over to Mr. Shugart. 266 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Thank you. 267 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:59,000 So Mr. Goodman covered most of what I was going to say. I will mention that real estate bills were mailed out January 2nd. We are receiving payments on those and folks are calling in with questions. 268 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 If anyone has any questions, feel free to call town hall. 269 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:08,000 We're still working on personal property bills as of this afternoon. They have not been mailed out. I was working with the vendor today. 270 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:16,000 We're anticipating within the next two weeks they will be mailed out. They will be mailed out from our prep vendor, so they do not get mailed out directly from town hall. 271 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:25,000 So this ordinance, I'm not sure if Mr. Goodman said, it does repeal itself on January 1st, 2027. So this is just to extend the due date for this year. 272 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:34,000 And we are requesting that after this public hearing at the conclusion that you approve the extension to March 5th, 2026. 273 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 I'll be happy to answer any questions if you have any prior to the public hearing. 274 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Any questions at this time for staying in? 275 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Okay. All right. Well, do we are officially going to do in that's a public hearing? 276 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:57,000 So we invite the public, if anyone would like to come forward and make any comments about this ordinance on the deadline for tax payments. 277 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Come now if you've heard. 278 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Seeing no one, we will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for any further questions, discussion if there is any or motion. 279 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Mr. Mayor, yes, I would move for approval of ordinance 2026. 280 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 The actual one has presented. 281 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I second motion made in second. 282 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Vice Mayor McGraw. 283 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Aye. 284 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 That's Barnhart. 285 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Aye. 286 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Mr. Paul. 287 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Aye. 288 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Aye. 289 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000 All right. 290 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Thank you here in ordinance 25-12. 291 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Conditional Resonance Amendment. 292 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Mr. Locker. 293 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:25,000 All right, good evening, Town Council. 294 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 It's good to see you guys again. 295 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I'm presenting this evening, ordinance 2025-12, 296 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 to the amendment to chapter 21, section 21, 297 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,000 4.6, or conditional sounding. 298 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 This request covers that we have all the public hearing 299 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,000 for ordinance 2025-12, section 21-4.6 conditional zoning. 300 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:54,000 And this is to align the town's ordinance with Virginia State Code, 301 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:00,000 15.2-2303, and limit residential profits 302 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,000 of those authorized under Virginia State Code, 15.2-2303-4D. 303 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 This request actually comes recommended by our town attorney, 304 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,000 as this amendment was needed to correct Ashland zoning framework 305 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 and align it with current state law. 306 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Just to broadly cover what the amendment will do, 307 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 so this will switch the legal authority from the prior state code, 308 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,000 15.2-2298-15.2-2303, 309 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,000 and this will give the town council broader flexibility 310 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 when accepting conditional profits. 311 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:45,000 This would allow for the removal of several statutory limitations, 312 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 so this currently includes our requirement 313 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,000 to that profits directly relate to any problems 314 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,000 that would arise due to a rezoning. 315 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,000 And that any conditions would explicitly comply 316 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 with the comprehensive plan. 317 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,000 The new code amendment will also eliminate the capital improvement program 318 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,000 requirement, so the any accepted profits can now 319 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 or transportation cash or property profits 320 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:21,000 could be accepted even if a project is not within the CIP. 321 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 The new code amendment also provides much more flexibility 322 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 for transportation and road improvements. 323 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Stay code 2303 does not restrict what types of permits 324 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,000 can be accepted as part of conditional rezoning. 325 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:43,000 The new code amendment shifts residential profits from 15.2-2303.4D, 326 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 allowing the town to accept any constitutional profit 327 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 voluntarily offered by the applicant. 328 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:57,000 The previous code that we were following 2303.4C 329 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,000 imposed strict rules on what counted as a reasonable profit 330 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,000 and that opposed potential challenges to any conditional 331 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000 profit the town would accept. 332 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,000 The town council is not also required. 333 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,000 You will no longer will do. 334 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Deny a rezoning application based on a lack of profit. 335 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,000 But any other planning or concern that may come up 336 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,000 can still be considered as part of our consideration. 337 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 This was presented to planning commission. 338 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Last month they had quite a few questions on the amendment. 339 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Mostly on how they would evaluate the 340 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,000 proffers how this would impact their any potential 341 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,000 denials to rezoning and whether they could still evaluate 342 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,000 based on a value-way proffers based off of the comprehensive plan. 343 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 It was clarified that any impacts, planning considerations 344 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 and overall application adequacy, 345 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,000 can may continue to be evaluated under the amended ordinance 346 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 and then specific proffers may not be required 347 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 as a condition of approval. 348 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Resoning applications can still be denied based on a planning 349 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000 considerations, impacts, or planning consistency. 350 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Again, they cannot be denied solely on a lack of profit. 351 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Planning commission voted unanimously to 352 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000 provide approval of ordinance 2025-12. 353 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Any questions or comments further on this? 354 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 That last slide, if you go back to that just for a second. 355 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000 This is recommended by staff and it's nice that 356 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,000 that our planning commission unanimously approve this. 357 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 And the statement, they found the amendments improved 358 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 clarity and maintain appropriate planning standards. 359 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000 So anyway, that sounds like good work. 360 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Good result of this. 361 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Any questions? 362 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Comments to staff? 363 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 All right. 364 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000 At this time, we'll go ahead and officially open the public hearing. 365 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,000 As you can see, if anyone wants to make any statements, 366 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:29,000 ask any questions about this and write you at this time. 367 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Seeing no one, we will close the public hearing and 368 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000 bring it back to council for either further discussion 369 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,000 and if none, the informed motion. 370 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I'll be happy to. 371 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 I move to approve ordinance 2025-12 to amend 372 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,000 National Town Code Chapter 21 article one in general, 373 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000 conditional zoning as presented. 374 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Second. 375 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Okay. 376 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Good job. 377 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Mr. Moly. 378 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Hi. 379 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Dr. McGraw. 380 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Hi. 381 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 It's Barnhart. 382 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Hi. 383 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 So Paul? 384 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Hi. 385 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Mayor's about. 386 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Hi. 387 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Motion passed. 388 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Thank you all. 389 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Thank you for this. 390 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 And so we'll continue to move forward here to our first action item, 391 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 a memorandum of understanding with the homelessness outreach services. 392 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 This move. 393 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Good evening again, up here for a very different, 394 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000 but also very important reason to you this evening. 395 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,000 So you have before you memorandum of understanding for homelessness 396 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 outreach services. 397 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 And I know you all have looked over this in great detail, 398 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 but for the sake of anyone watching or anyone looking in the minutes. 399 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I just want to take a minute and go through some of the kind of 400 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,000 finer points for that kind of level of transparency. 401 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,000 So this proposed MOU would establish a partnership between the town of Ashland, 402 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,000 the Ashland Foundation and the Greater Richmond Continuum of Care, 403 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000 which is the coordinating entity for all homelessness outreach services 404 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000 in the Metro Richmond area, including Hanover County and the town of Ashland. 405 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000 So the purpose of this agreement is to ensure targeted coordinated services 406 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 for our unhoused residents, established clear roles, 407 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,000 responsibilities, and funding expectations to improve communication 408 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,000 between the existing service providers, our local nonprofits, 409 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Hanover County Social Services, the Ashland Police Department in the town of Ashland, 410 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 and also to reduce the duplication of services, 411 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000 making sure folks are not falling through the service gaps. 412 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000 If you may recall when the public camping ordinance came before, 413 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000 we did a kind of stakeholders meeting with a lot of our outreach providers, 414 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 and they indicated there was a real need for flexible funding, 415 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 kind of to fill in the gaps of really getting folks into that more stable housing 416 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:10,000 situation to use for things that state and federal funding may not qualify for. 417 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000 And so this MOU is really designed to do that. 418 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:18,000 To be clear, the GRC already provides outreach services to the town of Ashland. 419 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 That service already exists. 420 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000 But our hope and intention with this MOU is to provide additional funding 421 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 so that we can get even more targeted outreach, 422 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000 especially considering the demand of the surrounding localities 423 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 compared to what the town of Ashland's needs are. 424 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 So as you'll see under the funding commitments, 425 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000 by signing this MOU, the town would be committing to provide $10,000 426 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 in support of these efforts. 427 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 This is not new funding. 428 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000 This is money that had already been budgeted and allocated for homelessness 429 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 outreach services in your FY26 budget. 430 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,000 The Ashland Foundation will contribute as kind of a pass through via that kindness 431 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,000 that counts initiative, which is already ongoing and will continue to promote. 432 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,000 And then you'll see here, importantly, I think criteria for use of the funds. 433 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,000 It's used exclusively to support individuals and families within the town of Ashland, 434 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,000 who are working with those designated GRC agencies. 435 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,000 And the idea is to really use the funds to help those individuals or families exit homelessness. 436 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:28,000 So helping with first and met last month's rent, helping them get funding for getting their ID. 437 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,000 So they can see employment, secure a place to live. 438 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Those kinds of low-hanging fruit things that are can be a real barrier depending on how much is involved 439 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000 and getting those things and how much outreach time is needed. 440 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 You'll see under prohibited expenditures. 441 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:50,000 The town is asking that the funds provided not be used to purchase tents or sleeping bags 442 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 or equipment intended to facilitate outdoor habitation, 443 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000 because this would go in conflict with the camping ordinance that was passed last year. 444 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,000 And that any funding needs to make sure that it's going towards actions that are compliant with all town code. 445 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,000 You'll see roles and responsibilities in here. 446 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Homeward is listed. 447 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,000 They are the designated GRC administering agency. 448 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000 So the agreement is actually with Homeward, but it is part of the GRC. 449 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 So that's why the difference in name there. 450 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,000 You'll see some metrics and reporting requirements in there. 451 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Should Council vote to adopt this MOU this evening. 452 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 I have a planned call with the Executive Director of Homeward, 453 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Kelly Kinghorn, later this week to walk through exactly kind of what that reporting structure 454 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 will look like in the cadence for that. 455 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000 And then you'll see under item B there, the Ashland Foundation's requirements. 456 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Really they are your administering arm for the funding as well as the accountability partner. 457 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000 So the board will be kind of regularly reviewing how the funds are used, 458 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 examining the relationship and providing some feedback to Council. 459 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Should you be considering funding in the future? 460 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 The found date. 461 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Commission met today. There was a board meeting earlier today, and the board did unanimously vote to approve the 462 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:15,000 MOU, if town council also does as well. And then you'll see under the town of Ashlands to provide that baseline funding of $10,000, 463 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:22,000 some supporting of outreach efforts and assisting with publication efforts, which are things that we are already doing. 464 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:29,000 Under duration and renewal, I will suggest a change year that's not reflected in the staff report as discussed in the Foundation Board meeting today. 465 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:39,000 This has an expiration of June 30th, 2026. We started working on this MOU quite some time ago, and with only six months left to go. 466 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Mr. Manager suggested in the Ashland Foundation Board meeting that we go ahead and just make that expiration 2027, June 30th, 2027. 467 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000 So I would offer that as consideration as you consider adopting this. 468 00:30:51,000 --> 00:31:01,000 And then you'll see there's a lot of legal language that our lovely friends at San Santerson had us put in there, but pretty boiler, boiler plate, boiler plate stuff. 469 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:14,000 So with that said, I will, if I can get out of this window, I'm free to think I'm frozen, but you have my staff report in front of you. 470 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:32,000 And so you'll see in there that really, I think the highlight of all of this and that big takeaway is that this is the third kind of pronged to our approach towards really trying to wrap our arms around the kind of seemingly growing unhoused situation here in the town of Ashland. 471 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:42,000 And the first being the public camping ordinance, which was done with a lot of stakeholder support, the second being on ongoing work of the homelessness task force, which is meeting by monthly. 472 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000 And I look forward to updating you on progress there in a coming meeting. 473 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:53,000 And then finally this funding component is kind of our, our three pronged approach to this issue. 474 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:00,000 And this is not designed to duplicate a replay services provided by him over county, but to augment and amplify those that already exist. 475 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 And with that, I'm happy to answer questions. And you have my staff recommendation there in front of you. 476 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,000 All right. I have a question. 477 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Okay, I don't have a question for you, but I didn't have a question this morning from Mr. Manager regarding this wondering, you know, now word is out that the town of Ashland has this funding to assist these people. 478 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:41,000 What if they are in the region in Henrico, Gujland, Richmond, and everywhere else, and they're like, I'm going to go and be homeless in Ashland because I'm going to get some help. 479 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 So it's concerned that people might do that. 480 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:57,000 And he assured me that the GRCOC does keep a database and they keep up with things like that, so there will be no repetitions. 481 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 So that was what I was concerned about. 482 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Yes. And part of that kind of reporting process, you'll see in the MOU, there's a reference to the designated entry system. 483 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000 That's the system that they used to kind of manage their case loads. 484 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,000 And that's all hip-up protected. So, you know, we can't have access to that information or nor am I suggesting that we should. 485 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:24,000 But part of that is kind of tracking progress of individuals they encounter regardless of where geographically they're encountered. 486 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,000 And so, some of this case conferencing is part of this MOU. 487 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 There will be discussion around progress of certain individuals. 488 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,000 And if someone is kind of open to accepting what is being offered to them or if a little bit more work needs to be done. 489 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,000 And so, again, it's making sure those lines of communication stay open, which there's already a system in place for them to do that. 490 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Thank you. 491 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Question I have. 492 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:57,000 We have in here that it's going to be funds that are going to be used or for folks that are actually working with the designated GRCOC. 493 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,000 So, what length of time, if I'm a person and I see something else, I'm on Facebook. 494 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I post something that I can't make rent that month because we know we see that all the time. 495 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:15,000 What length of time does someone have to be working with the GRCOC before they're able to get funding here in Ashley. 496 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 I can't speak for the timeline. 497 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,000 I would guess I'm looking back as we have two of our wonderful outreach workers here. 498 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 But my feeling is there is no set. 499 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 It's all very individualistic based. 500 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:36,000 So, my hunch is when this funding becomes available, they probably already have clients in mind that they've been working with who have had this funding gap. 501 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 That may be a quick and easy. 502 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Let's get these folks into a better situation or there may be much more complex situations because if we're talking about for example someone needing an ID. 503 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:53,000 We've heard stories in some of our homelessness task force meetings that getting a birth certificate from the state of Texas is a nightmare, right? 504 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000 It takes a really, really long time. 505 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:05,000 And so that can add an overall huge amount of length of time depending on where they're from and what other agencies they have to work with to get those resources. 506 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 So I'm sorry I don't have a more firm answer for you. 507 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:19,000 When hearing you say is that if we see something like that, we should refer somebody should be referring those people to the organization and they will take it from there because they're the experts and they would be able to. 508 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Yes, and I'm happy to share with you. 509 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:33,000 There's actually a Google form that GRCOC uses and homework uses that if you see someone on the street and you are concerned about them that you can fill that out and it will get dispatched to outreach workers who will go out and take care of that. 510 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Thank you. 511 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Yes, and I apologize that probably should have ex in my meeting this morning. 512 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:50,000 The town has $10,000 in its budget for this and then the foundation if they get donations can add to that. 513 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Have we received any donations to date? 514 00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:03,000 Yeah, through the kindest accounts which has only been active for about four months, we're just shy of $1,000 in donations which, you know, for a newer campaign and initiative. 515 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:19,000 We talked this morning in our foundation meeting about doing more public awareness around that campaign and potentially doing some signage as the weather starts to warm up because we will expect to see more potentially unhoused individuals back. 516 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Visible in our community as the weather warms up in the spring and so working maybe with some of our businesses around publishing and publicizing that campaign to again the real goal of that is to encourage folks who are well intentioned by. 517 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,000 I'm going to check the lay sandwich to rather instead donate to this fund that could make some real impact. 518 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Thank you. 519 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Anything else at this time? 520 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:50,000 This isn't a public hearing because we do have service providers that we've worked with and we know of. 521 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000 I want to invite if you're like to come forward. 522 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Seeing the thing about what we're trying to do. 523 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,000 This MOU I think is about as good as you can get. 524 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:11,000 But it's it's a lot of gray in it because I understand y'all's job. 525 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,000 You don't move people from point A to point B. 526 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,000 Exactly that's the goal but you might be point A to point C to point Z. 527 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000 But you're trying to work with an individual and I know that. 528 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000 I think I'd ask a question of of staff before. 529 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:35,000 Someone maybe in Ashland are initiating services to that individual in Ashland. 530 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:43,000 They may be they may need to go into a temporary shelter someone else or somewhere else. 531 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:49,000 But if that happens we're not we're not drawn a land through that name. 532 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,000 We'll stay with that to try to carry someone and work with y'all's partners. 533 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,000 So I guess what I'm saying is I'm seeing y'all in the town as partners in this. 534 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Do where we can't hold y'all to some firm. 535 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Okay, here they are. 536 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Fix it and then y'all certainly don't hold us to a position of. 537 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,000 All right, we're going to tell everybody we know you know the Ashland is the place to go. 538 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,000 But again I want to invite if you just want to make some comments y'all been faithful and what you do. 539 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Want to be faithful if you're opportunity to say something if you'd like. 540 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Or at least I'm not in the head if you're if you think this memorandum is that you would support it. 541 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000 And it's sorry but you would need to come forward. 542 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Yeah, didn't want to tell you that first. 543 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Yeah and then identify yourself on name and address for the record. 544 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000 My name is Leah. I'm an Irish worker and rich man. 545 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,000 I'm also an Ashland resident off of Sneak Street. 546 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000 I can say that this money has already gone to help several individuals. 547 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Homework kind of stood in in front of the money while you all were working on the MOU. 548 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000 We've diverted a family for we diverted to other single individuals. 549 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000 And that means that we send them to live with a family member or friend. 550 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Two, three of them all three all of them are out of state actually. 551 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000 And then there are two there's a couple that I'm working with currently on we call self resolution. 552 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 So self resolution. 553 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000 Okay. 554 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 So they can afford to live on their own. 555 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 They don't need like a housing intervention. 556 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000 They just need that for some months right and deposit. 557 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000 So it's already helping several individuals in the town. 558 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Thank you. 559 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 Okay. Thank you. 560 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Okay. 561 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 All right. Thank you. 562 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Okay. 563 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Just want to give you opportunity. 564 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000 These are two of our most committed Ashland advocates, 565 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000 but they also do not enjoy speaking in public as they said to me. 566 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000 But they do wonderful work with the people understood. 567 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,000 Any any other comments? 568 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,000 I just want to say this is exactly what I hope was going to happen when we when we passed that ordinance last fall. 569 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Was that we would all start working together to start moving the ball forward. 570 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000 I'm happy to hear that and happy to see what's happening. 571 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 All right. 572 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Is your emotion? 573 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Well, I just it's a it's thank you question comment. 574 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Where on our website is this form? 575 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Oh, it's not on our well it's not on our website yet. 576 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000 So it's going to be linked from the kindest accounts information and everything that's going to come up. 577 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Okay. 578 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000 So I was on the how to side, which I really like, by the way, it makes it really easy. 579 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,000 I didn't see it side. 580 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Yeah, I will add a quickly there for sure. 581 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Sorry, every time I hear these things, I always check real quick. 582 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 If I'm only one set of eyes, I always appreciate people saying that. 583 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,000 I only do that because when people say, oh, we have this there, I'll just want to know how easy it is. 584 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 If I can do it without thinking very hard. 585 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Sure. 586 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000 That's all. 587 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 I'll look forward to the week. 588 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 It's real quick. 589 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Can somebody designate if they're making a donation to the foundation to designate it to the homelessness. 590 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Yeah, so they would donate through the kindness that counts campaign. 591 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000 All of that is just for homelessness outreach service. 592 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Okay. 593 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 That goes straight to the GRC. 594 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000 That's the only thing that in on the foundation website. 595 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 You'll see two different donation links. 596 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000 One goes to the community foundation site, which is like our grant portal. 597 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000 Where we do the annual grants to community organizations and agreement with council. 598 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000 And the other is to kindness that counts. 599 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 That's for homelessness outreach services. 600 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 And it says as much. 601 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000 If I wanted to make a donation, could I split it? 602 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Yeah, you can make a donation on both sites. 603 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 You can do it however you would like. 604 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000 Okay. 605 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Thank you. 606 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Please. 607 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Right. 608 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,000 Nothing else. 609 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 Is your motion. 610 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Well, Mr. Mayor, I'm moved for approval of the memorandum of understanding. 611 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,000 The action foundation and homework with the extension of the termination date being on June 30th, 612 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000 2027. 613 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000 I second. 614 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000 Motion and second. 615 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000 The so-called. 616 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Hi. 617 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Mr. Malloy. 618 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Hi. 619 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 I can grow. 620 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Hi. 621 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000 This barn heart. 622 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Hi. 623 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Mayor Trevett. 624 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Hi. 625 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,000 I'll just close by saying thank you for the opportunity to see how this works in this pilot program. 626 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000 I think it's going to be interesting to see. 627 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Thank you. 628 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Thank you for the opportunity. 629 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Yes you did. 630 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 And what happens. 631 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000 That's right. 632 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000 That's right. 633 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000 That's right. 634 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 This to an action item be. 635 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Planned unit development. 636 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000 On a text amendment. 637 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 So. 638 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Right. 639 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000 And who is. 640 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000 This to its Mr. Manager. 641 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000 Yes. 642 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000 I will do my best. 643 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000 As you all are aware, this being on the consent agenda. 644 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,160 We typically do not have full presentations available for you, 645 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,560 but for my understanding council was hoping that we would talk a little bit 646 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,240 about this from a transparency perspective just to let folks know what is 647 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,160 actually happening, and so I have a very brief PowerPoint that really just touches 648 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,160 on process and what the process means and where we're going with it. 649 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,000 And so, if that is acceptable to council, I will attempt to run through that. 650 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,280 All right, great. 651 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,360 And is this showing up on everyone's screen? 652 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:11,160 So, the text amendment that you have in front of you, while we do have information 653 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,400 in your packet that we're working with, a contract purchaser for the Holland 654 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,040 tract, we also have our comprehensive plan, which very clearly told us, 655 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520 based on your actions, to go back and review this particular part of town. 656 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,440 And the language is in front of you here. 657 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,880 The town's comprehensive plan states the town should conduct a study 658 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,640 determine and recommend the best uses for the area known as the Holland property. 659 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,040 Mixed use development that creates opportunities to promote economic vitality 660 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680 while incorporating affordable housing. 661 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,680 And so, what essentially that means is the town needs to go through a process 662 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,360 to create the appropriate zoning classification with appropriate regulations 663 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080 to allow for a mixed use type development. 664 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,640 As we go through this, the reason that this is coming about, and this map may look familiar 665 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,680 to you all of you, this is what's known as the Holland tract, and pre 2024, all of this 666 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,680 was gray. 667 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,280 And as part of the comprehensive plan amendment, we decided to take a look at doing mixed use 668 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,640 on the bottom portion of the property, but even with that said, at the time of proposing 669 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,040 that we do that through the comprehensive plan, the town does not on the back and already 670 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520 have a mixed use zoning classification. 671 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,680 And so, the comprehensive plan was very forward looking and said, hey, we know that this is the 672 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,840 path we want to go down, staff, town council, community, this is the direction that the 673 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,360 community would like to go in with the mixed use being here, now you need to go do the work 674 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,920 to actually make that possible. 675 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:40,280 And so, that's where we largely get to what we have in front of you tonight, which is a text 676 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:46,520 amendment for the planned unit development zoning classification. 677 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,120 That is an existing zoning classification that talks with potential developer, with the former 678 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,720 planning director, and over the years, HUD has been as close to mixed use as we've had 679 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,000 in our zoning classifications, and so the end. 680 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,400 Exercise that you're essentially telling the planning commission to go through is go back, look at the 681 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:12,400 PUD zoning classifications and come back to us with recommendations on what would make that good for mixed use. 682 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:20,000 And so that could be anything from building heights, open space, the types of uses that would be allowed in the mixed use area. 683 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:27,200 And so they're really going to open it up and either do one of two things, and there's probably pros and cons to both, but we're still preliminary. 684 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:37,600 Either we're going to try to use the PUD and change it to an extent where someone could apply for a mixed use project using the PUD regulations. 685 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:46,000 Or you could take the PUD regulations and create an entirely new mixed use zoning category, but using that as the basis since it's the closest that we have. 686 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,800 And so essentially that is the exercise that you'll be asking the planning commission to go through if you were to refer this text amendment to them. 687 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,600 I know there's folks in the community who are very worried about the development and what's going to happen up there. 688 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:11,800 We are still at an early enough stage that that's not quite what really what we're talking about where we were at this moment talking about setting up our regulations to provide for a mixed use development that we would like to see. 689 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:19,400 And then the potential contract purchaser would use those regulations to apply for a rezoning and apply for a comprehensive plan amendment. 690 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:32,800 So this is really the first of kind of a three step process that we would go through to get to an end product before you're really going to have to be able to do the fun part and see all the buildings see where all the zoning classification play out. 691 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:42,240 Interrupted just for software did I understand you correctly that you said this can go if we pass resolution this or go to the planning commission. 692 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:53,600 Is it an either or as a look at this the bank and either or a mixed use all by itself or is it going to be planned use it. 693 00:46:53,600 --> 00:47:20,600 They are reviewing the PUD regulations that's their first one, but I have a feeling that I'd like to leave the opportunity open that if they get in there and think that there is a need to create the new that we allow that to be there so at this moment I would say you're asking them to look at PUD that's a specific request but I think what you get back may either be here's the recommendation for a change is to pod or here's the recommendation for how to do mixed use okay I just want to understand the full latitude. 694 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:40,600 And so as we go forward let's assume that you were to do this referral tonight that will move it to the planning commission they will need to take some time to both under you know look at the request understand the scope of the issue and then do the appropriate review before they make a recommendation to you. 695 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:47,600 That will occur largely in a parallel path that probably starts a little bit later we would also expect. 696 00:47:47,600 --> 00:48:03,600 The contract purchaser to be in a position to submit both a comprehensive plan amendment and a rezoning request as we move forward but the first step needs to be what you're doing tonight which is getting those regulations set through this referral. 697 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,600 And I'll leave it at that okay any comments. 698 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:29,600 We wanted to pull it off the consent agenda to have a discussion not so much specific but at the same time thought came to my mind as far as a conditioning use from it maybe to have an attorney here helps. 699 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:41,600 I guess the way I've maybe often needed a conditional use permit it's sort of a higher bar as far as somebody's applying for something obviously if it's. 700 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:47,600 If it's already approved is if it's about right it's about right if it's. 701 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:55,600 Even if by right as far as density lay out you know this things we would look at. 702 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:03,600 And I've always kind of felt like a medicinal use permit sort of says this is not going to be as easy as this one that doesn't have a conditional use permit. 703 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:10,600 So I guess what I'm asking is if we change our ordinance. 704 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:23,600 With with greater flexibility but don't use conditional use permits does it make it does that add any more difficulty for us in saying no we don't like something. 705 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600 If you understand that my question. 706 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:39,600 I think I think I do much more that if amendments are recommended and adopted by this council that incorporate more flexibility into the underlying pud district does that remove some legislative discretion. 707 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,600 That might exist was a conditional use permit and that is correct. 708 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:54,600 So ultimately any recommendations made by the planning commission up to this body could subsequently be amended by this body or re refer back to the planning commission if it was. 709 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600 You know taking away some of that discretion. 710 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:03,600 You know two degree you all thought was maybe too much but I concur with your. 711 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:12,600 You know initial thought that the conditional use permit does provide an additional level flexibility and legislative discretion at the same time. 712 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,600 Within a district regulation. 713 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,600 Okay. 714 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600 Thank you. 715 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,600 You. 716 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600 Well I was just going to say I really appreciate. 717 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:31,600 The opportunity for us just to have a conversation about this because our partnership with Keller is extremely important. 718 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,600 Also just you use the words transparency Mr. Manager. 719 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:45,600 I we know that our town and citizens really appreciate the transparency of this project because it is a massive project and important project certainly going to change the face of Ashland. 720 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:54,600 And also I certainly do not want our planning commission to think that we're undermining them in any way because we all know their rock stars and take really good care of us. 721 00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:03,600 So I appreciate the opportunity to just have a discussion about this not going to the weeds about this that or something else but I do appreciate having an opportunity just to let our citizens know. 722 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:14,600 And what we're thinking about and that we are arm and arm with Keller working on this and we'll move forward at a speed that we can move forward as long as it's right and good and wonderful. 723 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,600 And all those things. 724 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:27,600 Any other comments yes I just want to go back to your comment a little bit just I would not for me but for people who might be listening and might be a little confused on some of the things but. 725 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:51,600 The planning commission the way I understand it could recommend that certain uses be a cup within that within that zoning that doesn't mean we've zone this this way and that's what it is period there could be certain things I don't know maybe a hotel they say yeah maybe but it's going to have to come back to commission or maybe you could have higher density housing but they have to come back to commission. 726 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:58,600 But other things could we could do without necessarily coming back and so I just wanted to clarify that appreciate that okay. 727 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:08,600 It doesn't it's not like an all I think you have support is like one or two or all or none or I feel like as our manager said it's just open. 728 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:17,600 Just open for our planning and any members of the community if you're concerned I mean yeah we're looking at the Holland track right now which is a major development in the future for us but. 729 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:25,600 Whatever comes out of this could potentially be anywhere in town so that's just it's a it's a much bigger thing than just one track. 730 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,600 So exactly well said. 731 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600 We're looking at this. 732 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:46,600 As a review by our planning commission ultimately back to council on either either or or a mix of planned use. 733 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,600 Well. 734 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:59,600 Planned unit development or mixed use but one of the things I guess I wanted it pulled off the agenda sometimes you can. 735 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:11,600 You can you can start something and you set it in a certain format and we did though we're looking at this regardless of whether it be the Holland track or any other. 736 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:25,600 You'll plan to develop we could have in the future but at the same time we did get the the request from Kepler on doing this and so I didn't want to. 737 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:36,600 Just do a referral without discussion which might infer to some people that yeah you know everything's fine we don't have any concern about anything that's in this application. 738 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:42,600 I think it's been a long time as council member Barnard said. 739 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,600 We also we don't want to plan a commission to think that we don't have confidence in them. 740 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,600 So we wanted to have a little bit of discussion just to say that we take all these things to heart. 741 00:53:53,600 --> 00:54:01,600 We're going to pass it if we pass this resolution it'll go to the planning commission who we like lies count on taking on this to heart. 742 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:17,600 And eventually we have more conversations with Kepler who we believe also will take things to heart so inviting anyone else with any further discussion on this any specific questions or comments you may have. 743 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,600 Okay did you say good. 744 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,600 Good. Okay. 745 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,600 All right. 746 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:34,600 So is there a motion concerning the resolution which is in necessity for accomplishing what we're talking about accomplishing. 747 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:44,600 Mr. Mayor I recommend approval of the resolution 2026-03. 748 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,600 Oh that's your motion. 749 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,600 I'm not I'm not thinking that you're laying would you set on recommend but you're moving that we do my apologies. 750 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600 Oh that's I move for the approval you're right. 751 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600 I did use the vocabulary incorrectly. 752 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,600 I move for the approval of resolution 2026-03. 753 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,600 Is there a second. 754 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,600 I second. 755 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,600 All right. 756 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,600 Dr. McGraw. 757 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,600 Hi. 758 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,600 It's Barnhart. 759 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,600 Hi. 760 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,600 So Paul. 761 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,600 Hi. 762 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,600 Mr. Malloy. 763 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,600 All right. Thank y'all. 764 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:22,600 And thank you all planning commission for receiving the ball we're throwing their way. 765 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,600 They have their work cut off of them. 766 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,600 Yes indeed. 767 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,600 And now we'll move on to our reports of planning department. 768 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,600 Mr. Farrow. 769 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,600 Oh yes. 770 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,600 Our senior planner is sort of like. 771 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,600 Yeah. 772 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,600 Thank you. 773 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,600 I have not had initially put together a planning report to staff to such a wonderful job that they put this together for us. 774 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,600 But you have that in front of you. 775 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:55,600 I will do much like I do for my town manager report and try to touch on a few things that may not be incorporated into the report itself. 776 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,600 So if you exciting things going on around town. 777 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,600 And I would point everyone in the community, especially council to our community engagement platform that 778 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,600 Ms. Miller mentioned earlier. 779 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,600 Engage got Ashland VA.gov. 780 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,600 Right now there is a rail crossing survey on there. 781 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,600 And that is part of a very large grant that we received through the federal government. 782 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,600 It does require a community engagement component of it. 783 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:27,600 And so we are on there asking the community what they think about various options to. 784 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,600 Essentially make our vehicular crossing safer throughout the community. 785 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:40,600 So it's kind of getting you to rank things like grade separated crossings obviously very. 786 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,600 Effective solution but very costly solution as well things like signage. 787 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,600 So basically a ranking of all the types of things that we could do at each crossing. 788 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:56,600 It's going to be very important that the community help us with this and give their opinion on that because that is going to inform the study that will be done in the coming months. 789 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600 So please go there and while you're there and that will make a town manager plug. 790 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,600 There's also going to be some budget input on there as well. 791 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,600 So this is going to become our one stop shop for all our electronic engagement with the community. 792 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,600 So go for the rail crossing elimination grant study and stay for the budget exercise. 793 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,600 So please do that. 794 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,600 If you new businesses have opened throughout town. 795 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,600 I think you're all aware and have seen for some time now flag stop is up and running. 796 00:57:52,600 --> 00:58:00,600 So I'll be working with Mr. Thomas and the economic development office to start. 797 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:05,600 Basically shaking out the roads and see who we can find to come together and make a deal and try to get. 798 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600 A good property owner and a good project moving in that direction. 799 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,600 Can I ask a question. 800 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,600 I'm sorry. 801 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,600 Others have questions. 802 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,600 Of course. 803 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,600 Mr. Fair doesn't mind the eruption that asked for it. 804 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,600 The site is almost completely cleaned up. 805 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,600 It isn't quite yet. 806 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:30,600 But does that fence have to stay there until somebody else buys it and starts or can that. 807 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:40,600 Who's he's responsible for tomorrow but that should be able to come down once the entire structure has been demolished and cleaned up. 808 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,600 Because that was largely up for the code violations and the safety issues were there. 809 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,600 If the demolition has remediated all those issues we should be able to take the fence down. 810 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,600 Okay. 811 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,600 And if I think stays I guess to get it all upright. 812 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,600 Right. 813 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,600 And to put new cover just it's kind of unsightly and has been it for some time. 814 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:06,600 And then wrapping up pretty quickly the Henry Clay elementary school project continues. 815 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,600 The latest step in that so it's moving through the the hand over county process. 816 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,600 But town staff have submitted the, maybe get the words not 100% correctly. 817 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,600 But the historic preservation application for the property to the state department of historic resources. 818 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:28,600 This is my understanding they do quarterly review of those projects so our our should be reviewed in March. 819 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:38,600 And that should allow us a determination to understand whether the potential developer of that property would be eligible for those historic tax credits that are so important for him to make his finances work. 820 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:44,600 So moving along and all the various parallel paths and the Henry Clay elementary continues to move along as well. 821 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:51,600 And then last and I would say potentially most importantly interviews are going well for the replacement planning director. 822 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,600 I would hope to have an offer out in the relatively near future. 823 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,600 Great. 824 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,600 That sounds good. 825 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,600 And I'll take any questions. 826 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,000 I just want to say I went on to engage that AshlandBA.gov, and I did the rail crossing. 827 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,000 Good, thank you. 828 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,000 It was very enjoyed it. 829 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:19,000 I learned a little bit, and I thought the questions were easy to answer and it was easy to use. 830 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000 Excellent, good to hear. 831 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000 Anyone else? 832 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000 All right, thank you all. 833 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,000 Thank you, sir. 834 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,000 And so we'll move to finance department. 835 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000 Mr. God? 836 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,000 Anything again? 837 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,000 Thank you, sir. 838 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:44,000 Okay, so tonight before you are the December financial reports. 839 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,000 As we've talked about, real estate bills were sent January 2nd. 840 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:52,000 The online payment portal resident access is available to make payments by credit card or each 841 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,000 and personal property bills will be going out as soon as possible. 842 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:05,000 For the major revenue sources for December, meals tax was just a little bit short of our projection. 843 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,000 But overall, it is showing growth year over year of 7%. 844 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:17,000 I will mention that a couple of these sources, the percentage increase year over year is showing a little bit lower. 845 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:23,000 We're seeing a little bit of less growth in these sources or year over year. 846 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,000 For lodging tax, it has been consistent. 847 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,000 And like I said, they are still showing growth this year over last year of the same period. 848 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,000 We're showing growth in about 5%. 849 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,000 So last month I would have reported a growth of about 6%. 850 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,000 Sales tax does remain strong. 851 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,000 That's a strong revenue source for the town. 852 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,000 We are seeing growth of about 12.6%. 853 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,000 Last month I reported about 14.7%. 854 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,000 So we're seeing a little bit of a decrease in that. 855 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:56,000 But overall, all of these revenue sources are showing increases year over year. 856 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,000 And real estate and personal property tax not a lot to say on those. 857 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,000 They were male and January so any amounts that you see in this report are going to be 858 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,000 dealing with collections for both personal property and real estate. 859 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,000 So in the next couple months I'll be able to show some numbers for current collections on that. 860 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:22,000 And then lastly, our LGIP collections for the calendar year are shown for our withdrawal fund. 861 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,000 With our funds I'm sorry that are invested. 862 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,000 You will see it withdrawal on the LGIP operations fund. 863 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,000 That usually happens about this time of year. 864 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,000 It's for cash flow purposes. 865 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,000 So we will draw money out of that to put into our checking account. 866 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,000 And then once our tax collection cycle comes up in the next month or so. 867 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,000 We will be able to invest those back into our LGIP fund. 868 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,000 That's a very normal thing to do at this time of year. 869 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000 So I don't want to think there's being a alarm on that. 870 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,000 So that's all I have. 871 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,000 And I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. 872 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,000 My question to anyone. 873 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,000 Just in the spirit of our former vice mayor. 874 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:05,000 John Hodges there the LGIP local government investment pool. 875 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,000 Thank you. 876 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,000 Thank you. 877 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,000 Thank you. 878 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,000 We use acronyms all the time and we forget that not everyone knows what we're speaking about. 879 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,000 So I appreciate it. 880 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,000 Sure thing. 881 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,000 Thank you very much. 882 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,000 Why? 883 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:22,000 The chief. 884 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,000 Sorry your presentation had to become second to the other chief. 885 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,000 But we're glad you're here. 886 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,000 It's okay. 887 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000 We had another person to our ranks. 888 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,000 Thank you. 889 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,000 In your back of this evening, you have your a monthly report for the police department for the month of December. 890 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,000 Also contained in that is a preliminary annual report. 891 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,000 So if you'll indulge a man I'll just give you some of the information on that. 892 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,000 Just give some broad strokes. 893 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,000 For this year, we had a decrease overall in crime. 894 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,000 I'm going to compare it with 2024. 895 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,000 The total number is 146 part one incidents. 896 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:04,000 Those are major crimes, robberies, rape, homicide, petty larcenies, things of that nature. 897 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,000 So the ones that we really track and we had 146 incidents. 898 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,000 Which again was a 32.4% decrease. 899 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000 It's also one lowest number we've had in the past 15 years. 900 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,000 And the lowest I know of since I've been employed with the police department. 901 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,000 But I do say that with a caveat. 902 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:28,000 It only takes one group to come through and start picking on, you know, lifting up door handles and break into about 15 or 20 cars. 903 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,000 Or a bunch of people shoplifting and those numbers go out the window. 904 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,000 So we got rape patrol techniques, but also we got very lucky this year. 905 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:43,000 So I don't want to beat my chest just that just yet because the next year I may be telling you of a crime increase. 906 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:52,000 So also we had 101 traffic collisions this year that represented a 22.3% decrease over 2024. 907 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,000 I believe this year was a very successful year for the police department. 908 01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,000 And I'm proud of the efforts that the police officers put forth. 909 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000 So major events that happened this month. 910 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:10,000 I've reported some of this last month, but we did have a major case involving credit card deaths. 911 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,000 And fraudulent use, several of our gas stations. 912 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:19,000 And we were able to solve those and resulted in 24 total warrants being served. 913 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,000 Also, as an initiative, something we're trying to do last year we bought some credit cards, 914 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,000 skimming devices. 915 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:31,000 I don't know if you're familiar with this, but what they'll do is they will basically place a device on a transaction, 916 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,000 machines, or they will place them at gas stations where you scan your credit card. 917 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:44,000 That will then transmit your data and your information to so many years nearby by Bluetooth or they will come back and get the information from the device itself. 918 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,000 These guys are brazen with this, they'll even do it when a clerk is there and manage to get these devices on. 919 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:54,000 And sometimes you won't know they're there because they can literally just put it right over top of the machine. 920 01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:02,000 And unless you pull on it, wiggle it or you can actually check on your phone and see if there's some unknown Bluetooth devices around. 921 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000 But most people aren't going to take those steps, so then you skim it. 922 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,000 You put your credit card in, you get skimmed, and the next thing that you're looking at your credit card balance. 923 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,000 And your information's been stolen, you have some unauthorized transactions. 924 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,000 So we did buy devices that actually allow us to go through the gas stations and see if those are there. 925 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,000 And so we're starting to do that periodically to see if there's skimming devices or actual machines. 926 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,000 Yes, sir. 927 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,000 Is there a way for a citizen to recognize something that looks funky? 928 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,000 The best thing I can tell you to do is if you're ending your pen is always to obscure it. 929 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,000 So they cannot see the numbers as they're being entered. 930 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,000 That's the first thing. 931 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,000 Second thing is to pull on any, see if the door's open, wiggling. 932 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:44,000 If it looks like it's been tampered with a lot of businesses are now or putting stickers across it. 933 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,000 If that's those stickers looked like they've been tampered with. 934 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,000 Go to another, go to another machine to use it. 935 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,000 A lot of times you're going to find these at your self-checkouts. 936 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000 So personally, I always go to a person's monitoring the machine because it's less likely. 937 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,000 But if there's not a person monitoring them. 938 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:06,000 For example, some places you'll have five or six or seven of these self-checkouts. 939 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000 But you have one person watching it. 940 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000 And then, you know, of course there's people like me who don't know how to check out. 941 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,000 I've always relied on other people to do it. 942 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,000 And they're distracted. 943 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000 And then they start putting these or some me distracts a long purpose while they do it. 944 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,000 It's a different view. 945 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,000 So there's just some things that you can do. 946 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,000 So that's why I'm seeing that little strip of paper. 947 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,000 Okay. 948 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000 And a certain retail establishment here. 949 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:33,000 When mine got skimmed in the South Carolina, I scanned the credit card and then suddenly I looked. 950 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,000 And I saw that the door was slapping and I realized I was going to have a bad day. 951 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,000 So I could immediately call it my bank. 952 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,000 Let them know that I felt like I was going to be skimmed and sure enough I had. 953 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,000 Do you know, is this only with insert your cards or swipe your cards? 954 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,000 Does tap? 955 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,000 Do anything to debate this in any way whatsoever? 956 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000 To be honest with you, I don't know. 957 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:59,000 But I do think that if you transmit it in any way in that machine they have a way that they can put it in. 958 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,000 We're too thin side. 959 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000 It may be a little harder for them. 960 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,000 But right now, they're tech the technology and the criminals is superseding the technology we have. 961 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,000 So we're doing the best we can with these devices to try to stop that. 962 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,000 So investigations are taking the lead on trying to find those devices. 963 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,000 And at least minimize that people who may come victim to that crime. 964 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,000 Some other events we had this month, we attended the Asian Gollum who's 965 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,000 to buy the Asian Chamber in December to support our Asian community. 966 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,000 We did a crisis response active shooter type drill at San Ann's Church. 967 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:38,000 We attended the Valor Awards and I'd like to thank you Mr. Manager and all the members of town council who attended that with us. 968 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,000 Thank you for the support. 969 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,000 We hosted our annual Shop of the Cup program. 970 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,000 I'm sorry that that happened that they're at the second meeting. 971 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:50,000 The town council was occurring so it was impossible for all of us to be at two places at the same time. 972 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,000 But I'd like to thank Ms. Amy Miles for her continued support with that event. 973 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,000 She's done a great job. 974 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,000 We were able to help out 24 families this year with that. 975 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,000 So thank you to her. 976 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,000 She's been instrumental in making this a great success for us. 977 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:13,000 And finally, something else is we work with a manager to produce to basically purchase new trainer and AEDs for the town. 978 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,000 So we're able to implement all those devices and get those put out. 979 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:23,000 The great thing is is that because of the devices we have before, we're different than what the fire department is using. 980 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,000 We would have to change out the pads, the electrodes. 981 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,000 And everything else said, you know, you're having a heart attack times of the essence. 982 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:34,000 So now we can do that without having to have that extra time added by switching equipment. 983 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000 We just leave the pads on. 984 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,000 They can go there to buy something good. 985 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,000 So that's a great thank you Mr. Manager for the support on that. 986 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,000 Also, we accepted this purchase. 987 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000 We're going to purchase a new grant. 988 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,000 Awesome grant for giving. 989 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,000 We accepted a DCGS grant for a drone. 990 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,000 We'll be working, you know, purchasing that this month. 991 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,000 It's $22,000. 992 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000 It was a word about the state. 993 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,000 Our drone is Chinese made so we're no longer allowed to fly that. 994 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,000 So we'll be moving forward that in the next couple weeks. 995 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:15,000 And on the hiring front, we have one vacancy with a process currently ongoing. 996 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,000 We have to fill that vacancy over the next couple weeks. 997 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,000 But we will have a vacancy in the near future with retirement. 998 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,000 We've got them show board. 999 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,000 So we plan on moving forward with the process to go ahead and fill that as well. 1000 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,000 So we're ready to go. 1001 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,000 And also, everyone's aware of snow is coming this weekend. 1002 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,000 So this is what's on my mind and why I made a couple mistakes. 1003 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000 I want to make sure I got this in. 1004 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000 This Saturday, beginning eight o'clock. 1005 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,000 We're asking for everyone to not park on the streets, 1006 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:45,000 especially in the areas of Henry Street, Thompson, 1007 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,000 Hanover, South Center, and Hill Carter Parkway. 1008 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,000 We have around the truck stop both north and south and the contiguous roadways. 1009 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,000 We go with it. 1010 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:57,000 With this amount of snowfall, it's going to be very difficult to move that snow out. 1011 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,000 So we have to make sure we do not have park cars there. 1012 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,000 Because that is going to obstruct and it's going to hinder public works. 1013 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,000 Staff from getting their job done. 1014 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,000 So if we have to enforce, we'll have to remove cars from the roadway to make sure we can get the snow moved. 1015 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,000 It's far out of the roadway as possible. 1016 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,000 I see our community engagement individuals. 1017 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000 I'm steadily writing down. 1018 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,000 So this will be publicized. 1019 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,000 It's our own channel eight news as we speak. 1020 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,000 I just saw that and I was just reviewing it on my phone. 1021 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,000 And also I've already spoken with our rent off making college. 1022 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000 They forwarded out the students today. 1023 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,000 And they will also forward it out to get on Friday. 1024 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000 Again, the goal is not to to anyone's car. 1025 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,000 We don't have to. 1026 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,000 That's going to take my staff's time from doing their job to that. 1027 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,000 We're going to sit and watch for the car's mirror moved. 1028 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,000 But that'll be empty answer any questions you've had. 1029 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,000 Yes. 1030 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,000 I go back to my old life. 1031 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,000 Did you set a curiosity, I guess. 1032 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,000 Do you know how many individuals are on community-based supervision in town? 1033 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,000 I do not. 1034 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,000 In estimate, maybe. 1035 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,000 Well, it's too difficult to tell. 1036 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,000 I do not now. 1037 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,000 Okay. 1038 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,000 Sorry? 1039 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,000 Oh. 1040 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,000 Pre-trial probation of parole supervision. 1041 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,000 I get easily found out. 1042 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,000 I can request the county as to how many people on it. 1043 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,000 But I'll top my head. 1044 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,000 I do not know. 1045 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,000 Okay. 1046 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000 I was just wondering. 1047 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,000 Anything else? 1048 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,000 Thank you. 1049 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,000 You said you're proud of your team with the reduction in crime. 1050 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,000 Certainly we are too. 1051 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000 Very proud of the team. 1052 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,000 Thank you. 1053 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,000 Thank you so much. 1054 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,000 So I appreciate it. 1055 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,000 Thanks for the time. 1056 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,000 I'll try to find those numbers out next week. 1057 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,000 That's not that great importance to them. 1058 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,000 All right. 1059 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,000 Is there anything else to come before us to see? 1060 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,000 No, sir. 1061 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,000 All right. 1062 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,000 We're adjourned. 1063 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,000 Thank you all. 1064 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,000 Bye.