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I'm sorry.
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of the melody

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board of directors on April 14th, 2026.
Roll call, please.

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» Uh, yes. Director Bernstein,
>> present.

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» Director Bloom
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» Yes.
>> And uh, Director Jones

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» here.
>> Director Solano

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» here. and director uh Carly
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» Thank you.
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the flag

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God, indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.

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There are no reportable items from close
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and I'll take I'll open it up now to
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do we have any
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» Okay. Um then I'll hold public comment
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the report of the fire department. Thank
you director for all the members of the

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board and of our for our staff and any
members of the public that are on. First

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of all, I'm just gonna quickly introduce
SOA who is our interim cler.

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Um thank you to Nicole for pointing us
in RTS's direction. So we will have

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Denise with us until we have a
permanent. Um, with that, I'm going to

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uh share with you some information that
has occurred over the last month in my

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uh monthly fire chiefs report. First of
all, just a quick update on fire station

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one. The only item of significance on
the update is that city of Clark has

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actually initiated a kickoff meeting on
our sequel process. So, that is good.

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Um, we're looking forward to getting
that your way. Quick update on the first

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minutes and promotions. Our firefighter
recruitment is ongoing. We've um already

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had applicants complete video
interviews. We had 292

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video interviews out of we had 500
applicants. So, the numbers are already

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shrinking. 292 participated in the video
interviews. They each each uh applicant

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is going to have their video reviewed by
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firefighters, engineers, and captains.
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file the the scores and take the top 75
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your next step. So that is underway very
quickly and I know will share some of

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this in your presence report. We have
our recruitment is ongoing. We had

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selection interviews today. I think the
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uh just updates on the community
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What's going on?
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some school group and station tours.
Station six with a Girl Scout fourth

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grade tour. Station two had a rock and
event. Station six uh tour with second

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grade girls scout. Station board visit,
Little Angel's preschool visit. Station

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two, East PaloAlto Primary School Walk
to School Day. Station 77 Bell Haven

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School Career Day. on classes of giving
patients. We had

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lost par educator staff CPR training,
EPA center staff CPR training, Sacred

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Heart Schools, parents hands on CPR
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job trained staff, hands-on
hands-on CPR training, and we had a

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regular monthly CPR Red Cross on stop
elite classes. Uh they also assisted

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with evacuation drill and local
business. Uh CIR they completed their

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latest CR cabinet added 13 more members
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uh the C team was invited to a
presentation for the San Francisco GPA

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events.
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workshop and then a very big event, two
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Park in East Palo Alto. I just share a
couple notes from Mike Sony who was our

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our on duty or our our firefighter
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anyone between the two locations.
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approximately 3,000 community members in
no product and close to 1500 in East

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Kawazo. This was our first event in East
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» Um it's an incredible day.
They distributed over 10,000 eggs. And I

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just want to recognize
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engineerelli,
engineer, firefighter Francis Con, and

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fire fire. really big and instrumental
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Wagner who drove whole time around from
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to our two board members that were there
director Jones and

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then also to Heather and for everything
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presence for our cert members helping
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way for us to connect with our
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fire response analysis report. So just

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in reviewing that nothing of
significance. I will share that we're

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still working on correcting issues that
director Bernstein brought up at the

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last meeting and that they um the
vertical lines on some of those graphs

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don't match up to the numbers of these.
So working on adjust adjusting them

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over. So, they're in the appropriate
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update, not need to report on this
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include a printed out report to bring
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the projects that are going on and their
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and we get some feedback on how often
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are done, which is why we are going to
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first look at our budget tonight.
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Chief McDonald the Redwood City Bashion
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Easter egg I chatted about. I also had a
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fire chief ste.
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sat down and chatted uh just kind of
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also had some pretty fruitful
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on trying to reestablish our automatic
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his number twos over there on how we can
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I think some technology issues there but
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related to their staffing have been
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stations round up. They they only have
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the engine to cross staff an ambulance.
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staffed. And the nice thing all the
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to our district are fully staffed. So uh
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some progress on that.
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my two saying I'd like it at least some
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may not have it all the way fixed, but
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hack it, so to speak. You know, even if
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can't talk to each other, there's some
old school ways where we can do that. We

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were actually talking about uh there's
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information over tablet command. We both
agency use that and that tablet command

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can also pre-alert us to call. So we
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them is retired chief delay. He works
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optimistic that we're going to come up
with some creative solutions for

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addressing the niche.
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staff reports here and then I wanted to
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going back to the a little bit on the
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Heather shared with me an email from
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youth that participated in our shirt
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say Morris's last name?
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all the students that went through it
highlighting some of the things. So I

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just I have a couple highlighted things
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that went through our search training.
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in the YCS CERT program has been one of
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high school. Through this ter I have
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and response skills but more importantly
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responsibility and stronger commitment
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says participating in in the youth
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program has been a transformative
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understanding of civic duty. To me, this
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young people from passive bystanders
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neighborhoods. Through YCS, I have
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built on the preparation and empathy of
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thought that wow
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» see what I started.
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and you have some really gifted
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articulate and they in all the words I
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the exercises they their eyes just light
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» It it really feels like it was impactful
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life changing for them to dissipate
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» And then just on the u the two incidents
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March. bigger incident was a structure
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and we spent a lot of fun on April 4th.
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a pretty significant fire. We also had
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overhead. It's even noted in here by
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strengths he noticed was that DFR2
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provided valuable intel confirming a
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route increased their situation
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the IC the incident commander while he
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texted me to say it was in route clicked
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the response. watch truck two lad the
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really interesting and fascinating to be
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also just you know I know part of our
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about a mutual aid automatic aid
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which I think went second alarm we had
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that were sent on automatic a two
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jurisdiction three engines and one truck
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» Yes,
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I I heard there was an explosion, you
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» but I'll find out if it's been released.
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actually happened the day of the their
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cables in it spark, but no one really
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negatively and these bow PD reached out
to us asking if they if we were aware of

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any
ways we could find some financial help

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and I know referred them to I don't
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» and they were looking at some you know
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financial challenges
Also, I know I was hurt, you know,

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because of those homes over there in
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to really try to figure out a way to get
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because it's going to happen even more.
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» that's what I've heard from some of the
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that's true but agree
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» Oh sure
we're recruiting now but the academy has

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to start until next January. Is that
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much earlier than the academy?
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the real explanation is
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salmon
in that in service academy it's actually

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sponsored by them we get the fire
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and then the other half are opened up to
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to have the names of our firefighters
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» I think it's Julyish somewhere around
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college for entry into that. So it
accelerates every agency that's

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interested in that January 2027 academy.
It accelerates everybody's process. We

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have to have agents that are
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lot of them?
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thing is, you know, if people are
interested in Sanonteo County,

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everybody's in the same boat as us and
the the timeline's similar. So, we don't

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think so. And
we'll see.

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» The other question I had, I I'm not
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a little bit surprised when you said
video interviews.

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One of the things that I know that
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forth is make it
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blind towards you know color natural
national origin all those kinds of

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things and obviously in the video
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absolutely but to some extent it's
apparent people's backgrounds for better

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have you discussed this or is this has

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this been an issue that you debated or
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discussed the idea of just an audio
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ethnicity or gender. Um, I will say the
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process is
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actually, I don't know of anyone that is
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they go to the the testing group and ask

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for the let's say they want to do 70
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ask for the top 70 highest scores on the
written exam and they'll take those and

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when you take everybody that's got a 95

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or above on the written exam, it very
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based on often times, you know, your
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your economic background, so your
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» Yeah. All all of those things. And so we
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said that all we needed to do is pass
the written test and every everyone out

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of the 500 people that submitted
applications. If you passed it, you got

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a video. So you had an opportunity at
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um share your story. They're very short.
uh and but people aren't allowed to

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share their names
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non-escript backgrounds, no any nothing
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with the agency. Uh but that way we're
not creating um any kind of artificial

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barriers and gives us the opportunity
for all 500 candidates potentially to

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have an opportunity to share, you know,
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questions.
>> Okay. Yeah, that was amazing because I

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was concerned about it, but I just
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ways of doing all this.
>> Yeah. But ultimately, we're gonna we're

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gonna see the candidates in person.
>> So, what happened between the 500 you

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had in hand and then the 300 who showed
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want to.
>> Yeah. My my guess is some just decided

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they didn't want to do it. Some weren't
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take the test or didn't pass the test.
some couldn't get their CPAT, the Cyrus

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California physical agid physical
agility tested. So there's a number of

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things. So that we kind of anticipated
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helpful for us. So we don't have 500
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not a surprising.
>> And remind me at the end you want six to

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fill six positions. Is that
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» Four.
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they, you know, we'll have the in-person
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panels. Each person is going to see a
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different panels.
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we'll kind of coil myself up and do
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yeah, we'll have some alternates also in
case somebody doesn't stick with four

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people finalists in a sense. Yes.
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» And we might potentially even hire more
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» Any other questions or comments?

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» Just back. Francine was looking at the
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fire. somebody heard a big I don't know
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something
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» I know we had some power line issues in
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sounds like that was the cause
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» go ahead
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scenes here is in terms of finding out
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it should anyone go to public works
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something that the fire department does?
>> I'll check with fire prevention and see

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if they follow up if there was something
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» Yeah.
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a very generic electrical issue. So if
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you know old wiring like you said the
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they have it narrow down to a specific
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» Yeah but I'll check let me know if you
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» okay is there a motion to approve the
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» move second. It has been moved by
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» I'm sorry.

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» Okay. Um any discussion? Not roll
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» Uh yes. Director Bernstein.
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» Director Jones.
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» Director Solano.
>> Hi.

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» Director Cwley.
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» Thank you. Motion carries.
>> Motion carries. And we'll move on to the

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regular agenda item number four which is
adopt the resolution declaring seasonal

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fees a public
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» I will handle this and we've got fire
marshal twice on the line if we call my

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friend but this is an annual uh item
that we bring before the board prefire

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season every year to declare a number of
particles as nuisances. And there's a

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list attached. And with that, I will
open questions. And if there aren't any

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board set to report and adopt a
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» is he on

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there's no question
>> any question

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every jurisdiction

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Please speak.
>> Is there a second?

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» Oh, sorry.
>> Moved by director and seconded by

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director B. Any discussion?
Okay. Then all we just do all in favor

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to do a roll call.
>> Uh, you could do roll call.

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» Roll call. Yeah.
>> Director um, Director Bernstein.

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» Hi.
>> Director Jones.

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» Hi.
>> Director Salano.

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» Hi. Director Crowley,
>> I motion carries.

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» Moving on to item five.
>> Sure.

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» This is just a technical question here.
We skipped over it too fast. I'm not

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going to discuss anything, but I just
want to point out that in my

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packet,
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» page,
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» page. Um, if you look at going back to
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» 84,
>> no, the monthly report, the fire

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marshals report, the packet jumped from
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And I want to see if I missed something
from the packet 16 to 22.

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» Page 16.
>> I had page 86.

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» 16.
>> Oh.

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» Oh, yeah. You did. Yeah. And then
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didn't miss some pages that were
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» Yeah, maybe.
>> Oh, I see. You see what happened on page

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if you clip mine is print on both sides.
I got 22 on one sides, 16 on the other

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side. So, I had to reverse it and clip
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» but that's why I saying there's no 17,
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haven't missed

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» Yeah.
>> Oh, this is from Okay. I think this

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» Well, normally they have a packet
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» I I think
>> but yours is the same as mine.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think what
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from the previous agenda which also says
agenda item number 285 page which may

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have been page 22 in the previous agenda
package. That's how I

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» but there was no page 16 anywhere.

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» There's nothing missing. It's just
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» The temporary bumps that we have is what
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» effects. Okay. I'm sorry. Not
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>> That's a legitimate question.

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» Not sure.

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» Okay, you're ready. Are we ready for
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» Yes. I will this up and hand it over to
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» This is to review and discuss the
district's fiscal year 2627 preliminary

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budget and fulltime equivalent staffing
level chief. So, and we're not we're not

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asking for the board to decide anything
tonight. You know, we this is going back

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a couple years. The desire for the board
to get eyes on the budget, the proposed

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budget and the draft budget earlier. Um
and so over the course of our budget

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process, the board and in combination
with committees has been have an

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opportunity to see the budget five
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three at the board. And so this was um
last Tuesday reviewed uh in depth by the

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finance committee. Um I think we went an
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meeting to
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So and the finance committee has
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board for review. And with that I'm
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» Thank you chief. Uh so good evening
director everyone. So as the chief

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mentioned uh this is just a preliminary
budget that we're presenting at tonight.

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There's no action that needed to be
taken. So I'm just going to uh give an

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overview or background you know how we
came up with the budget just an over

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overview of the process in itself. So we
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November of last year. So what we did uh
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current year's budget and then we
actually included all of the information

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that's needed for the program managers
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with the proposed budget. So we have
their current budget uh they also have

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like historical information of actual
numbers that uh that came up like past

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like you know fiscal years. So with that
um once we set it up in our system you

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know we sent you know all of those you
know um uh black template proposals to

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the program managers uh to the division
chief of flaw in December like early

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December as soon as December one and we
gave them about two months uh to

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actually prepare their budget like put
the numbers on it like uh give like some

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sort of description uh for the new
requests or if there's uh no change you

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know explain why there's no change and
things like that and uh in February and

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March as the chief mentioned we did a
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the executive you know leadership I
think we did at least uh six or seven um

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so what we did is you know each program
uh we went line by line uh we determined

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uh the budget you know for each line
item you know we discussed you know what

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would be appropriate for that line item
budget uh we took a look at you know all

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the descriptions all the um uh
justifications if there are new uh

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request, you know, for the next fiscal
year. And then we also analyze

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historically information what the
actuals are to determine whether or not,

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you know, what they're proposing is
reasonable. Um, so it's very extensive.

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Um, we did that, you know, for all of
the programs. Um, and then of course,

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you know, we came with we summarized
everything and then now that's, you

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know, the packet that's, you know, in
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190 of the packet, that's actually the
last page of the packet.

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So that's attachment C. So this is just
to show you the budget adoption

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timeline. I think the chief brick
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earlier. So for the April meetings, um,
this is really just, you know, a review

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and discussion of, uh, again the
preliminary budget, the action that's

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needed to be taken on the main meetings.
um we're going to present it again, you

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know, to the finance community. Um if
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suggestions that, you know, we think
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actually change in our budget. We're
going to present it again to the finance

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community and then in the main meeting
for the pool board, uh that's where

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we're going to adopt a preliminary
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Um and then by the June by June, uh
we're again we're going to present it

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to, you know, the finance committee. Um
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final changes with the budget and then
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to be the final adoption. So that's just
you know an overview of um the adoption

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timeline for our fiscal year 67 uh
project.

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So now um I'm going to go over the staff
report. Um I'm not going to go over each

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of the page and each of the the
languages here, but uh we're going to

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focus on things that I think are
important to highlight. So if you turn

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on page uh 96
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So 96 of the packet. So this is
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year. So what you know I did or what we
did is we tried to actually uh uh put

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some commentaries or narratives on you
know what actually affected what are the

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things that are needed to be considered
in you know the whole budget process. So

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it start from page 9 page 99 the first
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inflationary environment which everyone
is aware. So even with the um Supreme

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Court decision there are still some
tariffs that actually are not going away

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and there are actually new ones. So we
try to incorporate you know uh like any

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increases potential increases you know
for you know uh the inflationary

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environment with the tariffs. Uh the
second one on page 96 question. Sure.

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The discussion was really good by the
way that the the tariffs fall on

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imported things when we're doing
construction. Haven't we kind of

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specified that we need to buy American
stuff wherever possible?

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uh that one uh I'm not sure if there is
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it's you know a choice or it's required
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or uh for constructions that one I'm not
quite sure I don't think we did have any

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discussion on that uh but I think with
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right now with all the uncertainties um
I think it's you know apparent that you

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know we have to set aside like
contingencies or like plan for like

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things that we can't really control of.
But uh with your question Dr. Bing, uh

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that one I can't really answer. Maybe
that's going to be a future discussion

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once we go into the actual construction
phase. Uh and then probably that has

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» I think normal construction
>> the market for steel for example is also

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could be looked at as a worldwide
market. So prices in one place affect

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prices in another. But I thought the
discussions were really good by the way.

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So but I was just curious how much we
think these kind of things are really

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going to affect our construction costs.
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main
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steel
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I think we'll definitely check in with
John Chief and then maybe you know we'll

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probably have a separate discussion on
that um as we go through you know the

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process of this uh station one regular
check. Um then the next one is of course

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you know uh interest rate environment.
So this is more uh related to the

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revenues that we're going to receive for
uh interest uh right. So, uh I think

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there's going to be right now the
average expectation is there's going to

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be uh another cut interest rate cut for
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with again with all the things that's
happening right now with the geopolit

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political like you know conflicts and
such you know uh uh inflation and you

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know the job market you know we don't
know exactly what's going to happen. um

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00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:34,240
even like a year before like you know
we're expecting you know the interest

425
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,079
rate to have I mean the cuts to be like
you know more than like two or three but

426
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:42,320
now uh we don't know I mean right now
it's just like one I think later this

427
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:48,000
year and then another one for the next
fiscal year so this is really going to

428
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:54,879
affect you know our uh investment
revenue although it won't the impact

429
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:58,160
won't be that significant because even
if you know there's going to be rate

430
00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:02,800
cuts uh so we're anticipating less
revenues But we're also anticipating

431
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:07,040
like inflows of cash. So it's going to
probably offset uh the increase in the

432
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,599
investment balance probably going to
offset with you know the decrease in you

433
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,720
know the interest rate cuts. And this is
you know again just going to be like you

434
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,560
know some sort of heads up you know
we're not really going to have this

435
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,480
interest rate environment for the next
like five years. So in the next you know

436
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,599
future years when we do our budget of
course we're really cautious and

437
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,000
cognizant of you know what the interest
rate would be and then we're going to

438
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,760
give you know the board a heads up
because you know you might probably like

439
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,680
you know uh notice that you know oh why
do we have last year we have $6 million

440
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:43,119
of interest you know right now we only
have $3 million. So this is just to set

441
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:47,520
you know uh expectations I guess but you
know for the next fiscal year you know

442
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:51,920
we you know uh incorporated uh I'm going
to discuss this more when we go through

443
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:56,079
you know the revenue budget especially
for the use of money and property but we

444
00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:02,720
incorporated this you know rate cuts you
know to our budget.

445
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:09,040
Uh the next one um
uh real estate market. Um this is always

446
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:14,400
going to be you know uh one of the key
budget considerations you know for the

447
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:20,240
district. Uh because I think 90% of our
uh revenue budget actually is property

448
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:25,280
taxes or property taxes. I mean so for
real estate market you know we there's

449
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:30,160
uh overall there's still you know some
you know uh slow down or pulling with

450
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:34,320
you know uh the interest rate I don't
know there's the real estate you know uh

451
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:38,800
market but relatively on average is
still you know stable and you know

452
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:44,800
strong so I think for the next fiscal
year at least for the uh assessed role

453
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:50,480
right now for the district um I think
we're anticipating about 3.7% in the

454
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,599
assessed role But that doesn't mean that
that's the same amount of percentage

455
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,599
increase that we're going to receive for
our revenues. It's just a good indicator

456
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,599
of you know what we're going to receive
for the next fiscal year. It's not a one

457
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:05,839
is to one uh but at least gives us an
idea of you know maybe like you know

458
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:10,880
we'll get about like 3.7% or even higher
when we actually receive our actually

459
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:14,680
property tax revenues. Um the next one
on page 98

460
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:23,520
uh the Genentech uh property tax uh
settlement. So this was briefly uh

461
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:27,760
discussed uh or at least uh mentioned in
the last board meeting as well. So in

462
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:32,960
February we received a notice from
county you know uh Sato that you know

463
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:37,359
there is going to be an adjustment with
you know our you know property tax you

464
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:43,760
know revenues for the upcoming you know
fiscal year. Um, and it's mostly uh

465
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:49,200
unsecured, you know, property taxes. So,
uh, right now the effect of that is

466
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:54,160
about $469,000
uh, refund. Uh, so, uh, it's a reduction

467
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:58,480
of our property tax, you know, revenue
for, you know, the next fiscal year. So

468
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,720
in general what I got from the county is
you know any adjustments with you know

469
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,359
the assessed roles uh due to like you
know things like this like property tax

470
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,760
disputes you know settlements it's going
to affect the countywide you know

471
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:16,720
revenue proportionally so as it's going
to reduce the countywide revenue

472
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:21,440
proportionally um we will also get that
you know particular share based on you

473
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:28,560
know the ADA you know allocation so and
this is only for tax years 2005 to 2000

474
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:34,800
uh uh I think it's for 6 years 2000 to
2005. Um so uh our share is about

475
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:39,280
$469,000 including the interest already.
It may change it may uh increase or

476
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:45,760
decrease depending on where they when
depending on when they actually um uh

477
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:52,240
send uh us the money or settle the
actual you know um funds you know to uh

478
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:56,720
Genet. But it's probably going to be in
the November and this or October and

479
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:02,800
November um
uh aortionment for the next visit here.

480
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:09,520
And I think in the
uh narrative I also mentioned that um

481
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:14,960
there is still like disputes ongoing for
the succeeding years. So right now the

482
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:21,920
ones in review are from 2006 to 20 you
know uh 18 and the county is estimating

483
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:27,760
about 4 to5 million plus interest. So
given that amount um if it's also

484
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:32,160
proportional to the first you know round
of you know the tax settlements we're

485
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:36,079
probably going to be expecting another
reduction about maybe I I would I mean

486
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,320
I'm just you know guessing based on you
know uh the numbers here uh with

487
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:48,079
interest I would assume maybe around
$150 to $160,000 in the upcoming years.

488
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:52,640
So when are we going to know that?
>> Um that director Kerali I'm not sure

489
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,800
because again it's still under review.
Um they're saying it's going to be in

490
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:02,560
one to two years uh the settlement in
itself. So we might expect you know uh

491
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:07,680
more like information from them in about
like two years I would say.

492
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:12,079
So, uh, Elaine, I think I missed the
first time we talked last week, but are

493
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:17,119
we talking about for the district, we
have a total obligation of $468,000?

494
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:25,760
» Correct. That's correct.
>> With a annual um payout back or rebate

495
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,160
to to the county of aboutund
will be it would be proportion every

496
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:32,000
year.
>> Oh, it's not every year, director uh

497
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:37,440
Jones. So this one in particular since
it's already kind of like resolved. Uh

498
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:43,440
so the dispute was already you know um
resolved. So this is kind of like I

499
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:47,599
wouldn't really say one time but it's
the whole uh dispute is you know one

500
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,880
thing right but they're they're doing it
in peace mill basis. So this one in

501
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:57,760
particular is just from 2000 to 2005. Uh
so that's one piece and then from 2006

502
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,960
to 2024 we don't know yet.
>> Okay. Uh but right now I think from 2006

503
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:07,200
to 2018 that's the one that they're
currently under review and that's you

504
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,560
know the one that I mentioned probably
will you know have another like you know

505
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,720
refund or deduction for a property tax
revenue of about 150 160k just based on

506
00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:20,000
my uh own estimates.
>> Yeah.

507
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,800
» Hey lane did the county did the
assessor's office say how they're going

508
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,599
to communicate this this has been going
on for a long time. when I first got on

509
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:33,440
the board, I think that's when the
appeal happened and there was no

510
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,680
communication from them and then all of
a sudden there's this, right? So it

511
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:45,760
shouldn't, I guess, be that much of a
surprise, but you know, I mean, at least

512
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:49,119
we can kind of absorb some of these,
>> right?

513
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:54,240
» I'm just thinking there are other pieces
that can't, but I mean, are they have

514
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:58,560
you given them feedback like how that
they need to communicate this a little

515
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,200
more regularly to us? Yeah, we haven't
gotten any um news or any communication

516
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:08,960
whether or not it's going to be more
frequent. But you know what um we did on

517
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,599
our end at least is because at the end I
think you're right, directly correct

518
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:16,079
because you know we were actually
surprised you know oh it's settled right

519
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:20,560
February we received the notice then we
have to plan for it like right away uh

520
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,480
during the budget cycle pretty much
because it's already budget cycle. Um

521
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,800
I'm not sure if you know they're going
to have like you know uh improvements on

522
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,880
you know communications or at least like
do it more frequently. But again on our

523
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,079
end I think what we're doing right now
is you know we're I mean we're trying to

524
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,599
contact you know the county to see you
know who actually is responsible you

525
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,839
know for like you know this you know
assessments or this you know reviews. So

526
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,680
I actually got a contact you know from
the assessor's office and you know I

527
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:52,960
think he or she is the one uh
responsible for um uh or to contact

528
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:57,280
point of contact for like you know ask
if we have like any questions you know

529
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:02,800
in regard to this you know dispute or
tax you know settlement. Um so that's I

530
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:08,319
think you know our
solution is to just reach out uh

531
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:12,079
frequently you know um to them and see
you know if there are any updates

532
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:16,960
because I'm not sure if you know there
is going to be more um if they are going

533
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:21,200
to take you know more initiative on you
know letting you know all the agencies

534
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:26,000
you know within the county that you know
this is ongoing and there's you know

535
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:30,319
constant updates. um that one you know I
can't really tell but on our end you

536
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,640
know we're trying to be as you know uh
proactive as well

537
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,240
uh to you know just reach out to them at
least you know without contacting a

538
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:46,000
person you know from the county now who
can probably you know uh um answer you

539
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:51,040
know some of our questions if ever
>> I just want to follow up on that the

540
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:55,920
major loser in this is going to be the
county itself and I'm wondering how that

541
00:43:53,839 --> 00:44:00,800
might affect affect our district in
terms of funding that we get from the

542
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:04,319
the county and so forth. I'm talking
about the cost of dispatch and all those

543
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:06,079
kinds of things that's going to have to
be cuts

544
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,920
» any other services.
>> Yeah, I I I don't know the exact

545
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,680
percentage, but it it could hit $15
billion just for the county or something

546
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:17,119
like that.
Have you heard any talk or anything

547
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,599
about how this might affect county
services?

548
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:26,160
» Uh no. um we haven't you know uh really
have much information on whether or not

549
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:30,480
you know uh it's going to affect us when
it comes to you know to those type of

550
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:35,920
services but I think you know from based
on you know the actual letter the

551
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:41,119
agencies that actually got hit the most
are the school districts so the two

552
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:48,720
school districts are a million dollars
>> let me say that that also then I expect

553
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:53,200
is going to come back and affect the
Yes. I mean, it's all inter all

554
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,560
interrelated for sure.
>> Yeah. I think you know that's why I

555
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:03,200
think you know on our share like we have
about like 51 or $52,000 the refund on

556
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:08,160
the ERP you know out of the $469,000.
So uh in terms of you know actual

557
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:15,440
services um we don't know what's the
effect uh on us yet. Uh but you know I

558
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:20,560
mean if we're gonna anticipate any you
know um cuts you know for services like

559
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:25,119
for dispatch I think that's probably
going to be an even a bigger disc or a

560
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:30,400
separate discussion with you know the
county when you know it's you know time

561
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:34,880
to actually you know do that. I know um
dispatch services has always been you

562
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:38,880
know a topic of discussion you know for
for us and you know for all other you

563
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,160
know fire districts as well. But it's
going to affect the ambulance stuff as

564
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,599
well.
>> I think the bigger revenue issue for the

565
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:48,720
county right now is related to the
vehicle license.

566
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,480
» Yeah. Yeah. But that only affects mainly
the cities,

567
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:55,040
» cities and counties.
>> Yeah. It's not going to affect the

568
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:59,359
school districts or the um the the
special districts,

569
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:04,000
» but the short for the county and Yeah.
>> Yeah. for the services. Yeah.

570
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:08,720
» My county is going to be looking for
>> that gap.

571
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:13,280
» I mean, we Yeah. Anyway, that's a
different discussion which I think we

572
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:18,560
probably need to have at some point.
>> Yeah. And then uh the next one would be

573
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:23,040
uh geopolitical conflict. So this one we
kind of like know already and this

574
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:30,240
really affects you know our you know gas
you know fuel and um compressed you know

575
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:38,240
um oil like you know uh budgets. Uh
the next one on page uh 99 uh pension

576
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,680
obligations. you know, I put this here.
I think it this is kind of like some

577
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:45,440
sort of a reminder as well. I know we
actually adopted, you know, pension

578
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:49,599
funding policy, but you know, we
continue to be uh wary and cautious

579
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:56,000
with, you know, our pension obligations.
So, even with, you know, our um UI, you

580
00:46:53,200 --> 00:47:00,640
know, uh funding, you know, uh policy
that, you know, we adopted a couple of

581
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:03,760
years ago, uh I think, you know, we
started to actually reap the benefits of

582
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,560
it. You know, I'm going to discuss it
later with the retirement, you know,

583
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,839
budget.
uh but this is I mean 2697 is going to

584
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:16,319
be the third year uh of the
implementation for the virtual or strong

585
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:20,319
pressure you know policy that we did or
that the board adopted a couple years

586
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,839
back. Then last one would be the fire
station one. This is going to be an

587
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:27,599
ongoing one until we actually complete
the project. Now the reason it's here is

588
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,640
because of course you this is a huge
project. So we're trying to balance you

589
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:34,400
know our operating needs and capital
needs.

590
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,400
So uh we're trying to like you look into
our options and as director uh Bernstein

591
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:42,640
had mentioned as well earlier you know
about the costs you know there's going

592
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:47,119
to be a lot of you know uh projections
on that and considerations when it comes

593
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:53,520
to investigation project
>> I think the optimum uh sentence

594
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:58,480
uh I'm sure everybody read it was in the
one through third paragraph and it's

595
00:47:55,599 --> 00:48:04,079
about the third line down and start
about uh it says that this proactive

596
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:08,720
reserve strategy strategy support major
infrastructure investment. I think

597
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:14,079
that's to me that's we we really need to
keep our eye on uh what we can do to try

598
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:19,040
to increase that because there there
will be increase in cost just because of

599
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:21,760
inflation just because of what
>> cost of supplies

600
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,640
» supplies and the whole thing. So we just
need to keep an eye on on that and I'm

601
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:29,760
sure Alan gonna let us keep
>> Yeah, I think uh that's a good point

602
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:33,839
director Jones. Second thing what we're
doing at least on our budget process is

603
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:37,760
you know uh every time we do the budget
we uh I think we're lucky that you know

604
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:43,280
every year when we do the budget you
know we have uh an excess like you know

605
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:47,920
uh revenue over you know our
expenditures um I think right now an

606
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,440
average is about like $20 million like
you know every year or more depends on

607
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:55,359
the savings and we'll know more once you
know of course you know when we you know

608
00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:00,400
we have our reconciled you know balances
at year end uh but you know what we're

609
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:05,119
doing you on our on the budgetary
perspective is you know for example for

610
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:09,599
that $20 million right you know a part
of it you know let's say four or $5

611
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:13,359
million you know would be you know
allocated to the current year's you know

612
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:18,640
project current year projects IP
projects and then the rest we keep as a

613
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:23,440
reserve so um to your point uh director
Jones you know we are doing that um

614
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:28,400
during the be the beginning of the year
and then at the end of the year as well

615
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:32,559
when we know uh basically analyze and
reconcile what the actual savings would

616
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:36,559
be and it depends on you know the fun
balance reserve policy that we have then

617
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:42,440
you know we're allocating into the
different reserve categories and that

618
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:42,440
includes you know uh CIS

619
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,240
then um so that's you know again that's
the fiscal environment you know that's

620
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:53,839
you know the project considerations you
know that you know uh we you know

621
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,680
tackled you know during you know the old
you know budget process so they'll go

622
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:03,760
over now with you know each you know,
>> before you leave the general things, I

623
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:09,760
was going to ask about our contracts
with with um the state and federal

624
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:15,040
governments for when when we're called
up and so forth. Is there are there

625
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:20,400
adjustments for fuel prices changes and
things like that? And those are is that

626
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:24,640
a fixed cost and we just eat the the
higher cost of fuel

627
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:30,240
» there? Uh I think the chief is part of
you know but there is a rate letter

628
00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:37,920
» uh there are adjustments you know every
year uh for um uh for I think for the

629
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,920
vehicles right chief you know for um
>> mainten

630
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:54,880
state and US force but they do make
adjustments in in theory

631
00:50:51,920 --> 00:51:02,720
Um, when we're on the incident, we get
fuel for free from the incident. Our our

632
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:08,480
travel from home to the incident is in
theory on us, right? So, no

633
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:13,280
reimbursement for getting there. The um,
interestingly enough, that they

634
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:18,079
reimburse us at the FEMA
for the FE the FEMA vehicle rates per

635
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,760
hour, and in theory, the FEMA rates are
a wet rate that include the cost of

636
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:28,000
fuel. So, we nice nicely enough actually
get

637
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,920
kind of double reimburseed, right?
They're giving us a FEMA rate that in

638
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:37,359
theory includes fuel plus they actually
fill up our vehicles while we're at the

639
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:41,520
fire. So, fuel cost should be almost
fully covered except

640
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,839
» travel to
>> uh I think I think the FEMA I'm not

641
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:50,960
super familiar with how how FEMA
reimburses us, but I think our fuel

642
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:55,839
costs are all covered. It's all it's all
reimbured as long as it's approved. Um

643
00:51:53,839 --> 00:52:01,040
it's it's there's a form pretty much for
FEMA as well. For Calia's side, um we

644
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,640
have the ICS 213. So if it's on there,
then you know we're going to get reverse

645
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:09,359
for that. Same thing with you know um
FEMA. So for FEMA, it's almost as if you

646
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:13,760
know we get 100% reimburse for any uh
expense renewal related you know uh for

647
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:19,359
I mean deployment related expenses
including uh fuel.

648
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,079
Let me just ask what we're talking about
that

649
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:29,920
you're saying that when we take an
engine or a truck down to Los Angeles,

650
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:37,599
say we pay the cost of getting there. We
pay the cost of getting back.

651
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:41,520
We we pay for fuel to go there. The
we're also at the same time getting

652
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:45,440
reimbursed an hourly rate for driving
our type one engines there. That's I'm

653
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:52,240
just gonna say for the sake of
conversation is $200 an hour. And in

654
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:57,280
that $200 an hour rate that they pay us
includes the cost of fuel.

655
00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:02,800
» And does that rate also include for
example the depreciation on the vehicle?

656
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:07,920
» Depreciation maintenance
annual maintenance etc.

657
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,920
» Okay. Thank you.

658
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:17,119
uh
ask some questions under topic areas.

659
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:21,839
» Oh, are we
wait till we get there?

660
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:25,839
» Well, I'm asking which
>> uh which topic

661
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:31,520
» uh tactic tactical medics
>> uh maybe um I can go over uh

662
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:34,319
» I thought you were done with the others.
>> Oh, okay.

663
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:40,559
» Can we continue with that? You got 10
more question.

664
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:44,440
» Uh, it says here that there four law
enforcement SWAT teams.

665
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,119
» Oh, I'm sorry. 165.

666
00:53:54,319 --> 00:54:03,920
want to start basically on page 100
right now

667
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:10,000
the specific spreadsheets charts. Yeah,
I think um we can go over like you know

668
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:13,839
uh the next few pages and then if there
are questions along the way and then you

669
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:18,319
know if we actually don't go through
this in specific

670
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,319
then we can yeah then we can have the
questions you know

671
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:27,839
» our our intent is not to go through each
and every program but

672
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:34,040
» after yeah's done if you have questions
that you have

673
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:34,040
I think I just want to make Sure.

674
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:39,839
» Okay. You want to start You want to go
and start on the general funary budget

675
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,440
summary.
>> Uh so if you turn on page 100 uh of the

676
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:52,000
packet. So the general fund preliminary
budget you know uh summary. So um

677
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:56,800
overall um our revenue budget is 101.
It's on the third from the last column.

678
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:03,680
Uh $101.7
million. is our expenditure budget for

679
00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:08,480
the general fund is $81.9 million and
then the excess uh is about $19.8

680
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:14,480
million and that's operating transfer
out that you see there. Uh that's um uh

681
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:18,559
the transfer out with the CIP fund which
I mentioned earlier director Jones is

682
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:22,319
going to fund you know the current CIP
budget or expenses plus you know the

683
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:27,760
rest is going to be you know put on the
resource. So uh I think overall the b

684
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:32,240
the balance is uh the budget is balanced
uh meaning the our anticipated revenues

685
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:35,280
are greater than you know our uh
expenditures or greater than or equal to

686
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:43,280
our expenditures and you know uh
transfers. So um for revenues um on page

687
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:46,280
eight uh which is on page 102 of the
packet.

688
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:57,839
So the table there again as I mentioned
um it's $101.7 million uh which is about

689
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:03,359
6.5 million or 6.8% increase uh from you
know the prior year uh prior year's you

690
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:09,680
know budget uh property taxes uh again
it's comprised about 90 90% of you know

691
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:12,880
the proposed budget. So I'm not again
going to go over each of you know the

692
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,880
line items here but I just want to
reiterate that you know with you know

693
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:20,880
our budget you know process for you know
property taxes we consider you know the

694
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:25,520
$469,000
refund from you know the gen property

695
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:31,880
taxes
um so if you go on page um 108

696
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:41,599
uh so I wanted to actually again discuss
you know the use of money and property

697
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:46,960
uh again as I mentioned earlier we
considered you know the interest rate

698
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:52,400
environment. So what we did here is um
so right now we have two um uh we have

699
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,720
two major portfolios right now for
investment one is you know our liquid

700
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:02,319
portfolio and then the other one is our
core portfolio. So for our fourth

701
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:07,040
portfolio portfolio we actually budgeted
about 4%

702
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:10,640
um for the interest rate and that is
because I mean if you would notice 4% is

703
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:15,200
actually higher than you know the
current you know interest you know rate

704
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:21,839
right now which is 3.575%.
But the reason why we actually have 4%

705
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:29,200
is because 4% is the current yield uh
yield cost. uh right now what it means

706
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:34,240
is you know um if we actually uh keep
everything at maturity that's the amount

707
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,799
of you know um interest you know person
in percentage wide that that that we're

708
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,799
going to get and it's higher because you
know we're pretty much locked in into

709
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:46,799
those rates because we did not just you
know put you know those investments

710
00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:51,520
right now when the interest uh rate you
know was low we actually have you know

711
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,960
um investments like you know two to
three years back when we actually, you

712
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,760
know, uh we were able to actually lock
in, you know, those, you know, better

713
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:03,760
rates. That's why you see that right now
it's at 4%. But for our liquid

714
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:08,400
portfolio, um we budgeted uh 3%. So, we
want to be a little conservative on this

715
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:14,079
one. Although, um right now, um the
current rate, um our interest rate right

716
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:20,400
now for a liquid portfolio is about
3.7%, 3.7 to 3.8%.

717
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:27,359
Um we actually budget I just
>> yes that's correct that's correct that's

718
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:32,079
late at our camp um it's about 3.7 3.8
you know percent uh we budgeted 3% again

719
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:39,119
because of you know uh two anticipated
rate cuts within the fiscal year um so

720
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:43,680
we decided to go with you know 3%.
And I think that's uh all I wanted to

721
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:48,640
actually emphasize for you is the
revenue budget. So if we can go to the

722
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:53,839
general, you know, uh expenditure
budget. Well, wait. Can I can I just And

723
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:59,040
I don't know where the right place is to
bring this up, but um just to be on the

724
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:04,000
lookout and I'm not gonna say too much
about this because I think the chief

725
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:09,760
might talk to you, but I was at the CSDA
legislative day and one of the proposed

726
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:14,880
legislation talks about local or talked
about local revenue and blade in the

727
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:19,200
community's community reinvestment fund
that um that would require the state

728
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:24,319
treasur to set aside 5 to 10% of the
funds in Lif were deposited into a

729
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:34,920
community reinvestment account quote
unquote and then so I mean I can so just

730
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,920
to be aware of that um that you know

731
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:43,599
» well let me read this is how they the
legislature proposal has defined it

732
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:48,720
funds so deposited to be used as a c
quote a catalyst for small business

733
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:53,119
lending firsttime home ownership and
community reinvestment connected to

734
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:59,599
measurable community lending performance
while prioritizing safety liquidity and

735
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:04,559
unquote. So, and there's a separate risk
controls, liquidity thresholds, etc. But

736
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:09,920
the point isn't that I'm just giving you
a heads up that we should be on the

737
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:13,680
lookout if we want to take more money
out and that's something that the board

738
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:17,359
has to decide, but something that we
need to research or keep an eye on.

739
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:20,079
» Yeah, definitely. I think you know what
we're doing right now even you know in

740
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:24,480
general with the investment portfolio
we're trying to actually you know even

741
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,920
even if we're doing I think we're pretty
doing doing pretty well with our

742
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,640
investment portfolio right now what you
know we've been doing is we're

743
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,760
constantly trying to actually look for
you know opportunities not just with you

744
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,720
know our
>> uh core portfolio because you know

745
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,880
that's managed by PFM but you know with
our liquid portfolio director Kerali you

746
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:46,400
know we have you know other options that
we're looking into we have la we have

747
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:51,359
you know cab we also have actually met
with you know uh two other um LGIP

748
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:55,839
providers I think in the last couple of
weeks just to see what's out there um

749
01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:58,960
other options you know that we may have
eventually doesn't mean that you know

750
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:04,160
we're going to you know jump onto it
like right away uh but at least like we

751
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:08,480
know uh what what's out there and then
we can act you know pretty quickly when

752
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,280
we need it. So uh thank you director for
mentioning that. I'll definitely take a

753
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:16,799
look at that and see.
>> It's AB2214.

754
01:01:14,319 --> 01:01:20,400
» Yeah. So, um there's nothing to be
alarming alarmed about right now, but I

755
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:24,359
just want to put it out that this is
kind of floating around.

756
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:35,680
» Thank you, director. So, um
>> getting back to the expenditure budget.

757
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:39,359
Uh so, um on think uh page
I would say

758
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:45,359
» page 15. Oh, page 109.
>> 109.

759
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:53,280
» So, page 109. uh of the packet, you
know, the table there um shows

760
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:58,880
uh $81.9 million and this is excluding
the operating transfer. Uh it's

761
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:02,880
reflecting $4.9 million or 6.4% increase
from, you know, last year's budget.

762
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:11,119
Again, I'm going to focus on maybe two
or three things here. Um the first thing

763
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:17,760
um or if you look on page 110
the next page actually it's it's at the

764
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:22,720
very bottom but it really starts on page
111 and it talks about

765
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:26,559
uh the information technology specialist
FTE.

766
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:32,480
» So I think you know um we currently have
153 um uh FTE right now. So we are or

767
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:37,599
the district is request I mean we are
staff is requesting you know addition

768
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:43,200
for an IA specialist. So um overall I
think you know the reason for that is

769
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:47,839
you know there's I mean the
technological environment actually has

770
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:52,720
grown a lot and then the complexity as
well actually has evolved um and that

771
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,720
actually led to you know an increased
you know workload for you know for our

772
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:01,760
staff our IT staff to keep up with you
know our technologies you know maintain

773
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:05,359
you know uh operations you know minimize
downtime you know address you know cyber

774
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:10,559
security risks all of those
responsibilities activities. So um this

775
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:14,720
request is really to actually help with
you know the current you know workload

776
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:20,000
for us to be able to maintain you know
reliable operations you know um the

777
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:24,799
capacity as well to um improve and
address you know current and future

778
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:29,280
technological needs. Um so that's you
know uh the main reason for you know uh

779
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,520
our request. I think you know the
overall narrative is actually explaining

780
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:39,039
in more detail you know uh the
justification for that request is

781
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:45,319
actually presented on that page
and then um on page uh 112

782
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:59,839
uh page 112 or it starts on page 112 uh
for retirement. So for retirement uh so

783
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:04,480
we are budgeting $14.9 million which is
actually $27,000

784
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:12,240
decrease uh
>> $217,000 decrease uh it's a decrease. So

785
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:16,559
um this is you know what I was referring
to earlier when um when we're starting

786
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:21,760
to actually reap the benefits of you
know the policy that you know we adopted

787
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:26,640
you know a couple of years back. So even
though there is definitely an increase

788
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:31,680
in you know the fionable salaries
because of you know anticipated increase

789
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:36,000
in you know um costs you know for you
know our staff. Um the decrease is you

790
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:41,760
know uh related to I would say related
to three things. Number one is um for

791
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:52,799
the investment return Kalpers investment
return actually for fiscal year um

792
01:04:46,400 --> 01:05:00,000
uh 2495 I believe is uh 9 you know uh 3%
which is well over the 6.8% 8% you know

793
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:04,640
um target you know uh rate you know of
return for caler. So that actually

794
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:09,599
contributed to you know a lesser uh
unfunded you know acred liability for

795
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:17,039
the district. Uh the second one is you
know in relation to the annual payments

796
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:21,359
that you know we are paying to Kalpers
um that you know additional

797
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:27,119
discretionary payments uh which is part
of the policy again um for 10 years you

798
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:30,720
know for that soft virtual fresh start
you know um we're contributing more

799
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:36,559
right now so we're fronting the money
but you know we're um uh benefiting from

800
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:40,799
you know longer term uh interest you
know uh not just interest but you know

801
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:46,319
UI let you know reductions because you
know we're smoothing out the volatility

802
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:51,200
for the UL so now you would see that you
know um there's actually an overall

803
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:58,240
decrease in you know the unfunded
overall unfunded liability which is I

804
01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:03,839
believe on page
uh 114

805
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:09,039
» uh so that that first table uh on page
114

806
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:13,440
so that bridge shows you know, uh, cuz U
is really a big part of, you know, of

807
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:19,119
retirement budget. So, there's actually
about 534,000

808
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:25,920
decrease, uh, for our overall, you know,
um, U, uh, budget.

809
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,760
» And then,
>> yeah, so again, we're starting to reap

810
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:34,000
the benefits of, you know, our policy.
Uh, plus, you know, I think in the next

811
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:37,520
year or so, I think Calver still had
like a good, you know, investment

812
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:43,039
return. I think it's about 11 point
something%. So we're going to have we're

813
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:47,280
going to continue to see at least on uh
if we're going to keep it simple if

814
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:52,559
everything stays the same and then uh
there's no um increase in UL due to you

815
01:06:50,000 --> 01:07:00,000
know uh assumption changes or actial you
know um uh costs then next year we will

816
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:04,000
also expect you know another u it's
probably another good year for us

817
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:09,520
because of the investment return.
And then lastly is um if you turn on

818
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:16,280
page um
uh page 113

819
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,280
uh that first table

820
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:24,799
uh this is the normal contribution rate.
So normal cost uh so besides classic uh

821
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:30,720
safety classic there's actually a slight
or modest decrease uh in the normal cost

822
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:34,559
you know percentage you know 4.697. So
that contributed you know to the overall

823
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:37,559
decrease of you know their retirement
budget.

824
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,880
And then
um

825
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:50,160
last thing for contract for uh
expenditure budget um if you turn on

826
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:55,280
page 114
uh so contract services.

827
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:59,200
So for contract services I wanted to
emphasize this because this actually has

828
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:04,880
the biggest jump you know out of you
know our budget. So for contract

829
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:09,839
services um we are budgeting 11.3
million uh which is $2.7 million

830
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:16,159
increase
uh for the next fiscal year. So that one

831
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:20,560
is you know uh there's four major
factors why we're increasing you know

832
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:25,359
that you know budget by a lot 2.7
million increase. First one is um oh

833
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:31,920
actually first and second one this goes
hand in hand. Um so we are budgeting

834
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:37,520
about $1.5 million for the temporary
fire station and then $120,000 for

835
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:40,239
temporary office relocation. So in
preparation for you know the

836
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:45,440
construction for the fire station one
rebuild. Uh we the plan right now of

837
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:50,960
course might change but the plan right
now is you to demo uh the yellow house

838
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:56,080
or you know the annex building and you
know set up a temporary fire station you

839
01:08:53,040 --> 01:09:00,640
know for uh for uh that you know piece
of land. So that's you know where the $

840
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:05,520
1.5 million um increase is you know
coming from. And of course, we're going

841
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:09,440
to have to relocate, you know, uh HR
staff and then the payroll, uh staff

842
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:14,400
right now, as well as, you know, uh
staff at, you know, fire station one,

843
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:19,520
which is training and, you know, uh our
senior management analyst for the BFR

844
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:25,120
program. So, that's the $120,000.
>> Demoing the building behind us here.

845
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:29,520
» Uh not this one. Uh the building right
next to

846
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:32,880
» next to what? next to the admin
building.

847
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,520
» The back part of the 170
>> the yellow building.

848
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:38,000
» Uh there's the yellow house there.
>> Oh, I'm turning around that way.

849
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,000
» Oh,
>> this way. This way.

850
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,319
» Yeah, I got it.
>> Yeah.

851
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,239
» Wow.
>> Yeah. So, I think right now that 1.5

852
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,759
million is, you know, just an estimate.
you know, talking to John, uh, I think

853
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:53,920
that's, you know, what it would cost to,
you know, set up, you know, the Empire

854
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:58,320
Fire Station, set up those two trailers,
uh, um, pretty much, you know, uh,

855
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,679
getting it ready, uh, for all
operational, you know, uh, needs.

856
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,640
» So, when we were all done, we just have
a big bot.

857
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,440
» Uh, when we're all done, I think the
plan right now, is this actually

858
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:15,120
» it's going to be vacant, but probably
going to sell.

859
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:19,840
» That's interesting. Um
yeah, the plan is we'll have it'll

860
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:23,280
probably be a parking lot and we'll sell
once we're ready to move in here, we'll

861
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:29,040
sell both the admin building and that
parking lot together separately. And

862
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:35,280
John's opinion was that with the quality
of that yellow house that's there

863
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:41,120
the raw land is worth almost as much as
having the building on it. And it's just

864
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:49,520
uh for
kind of a value initiative.

865
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:57,760
Seminary was willing to rent us um about
half an acre, 3/4 of an acre. Uh but the

866
01:10:52,880 --> 01:11:02,320
the cost over the um the timeline for
the construction was going to be almost

867
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:08,719
$3 million in just ground rent for
nothing. And so it made more sense for

868
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:12,159
us to spend the money to do some demo
over there and then just put the

869
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:16,960
temporary station there. And ultimately
I think it would probably one and a half

870
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:21,360
to$2 million to the good having the
temporary station there. And then yeah

871
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:27,679
the value of the property at least in
John I think and also talking the

872
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:32,640
commercial real estate brokerise
that makes sense but yeah we ran through

873
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:37,920
those things. It is also possible we
have some other possible conversations

874
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:44,480
going on with
uh USGS, well not USGS, the developers

875
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:50,719
of the new USGS property because they
may not need to do anything or with it

876
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:54,960
for six years and so there might be an
opportunity to uh put the temporary

877
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:59,920
station there and also provide office
stations but very pre

878
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:04,000
» yeah we're just looking at a variety of
options but That's the current

879
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:08,239
» or the ideas.
>> Yeah. I guess I'm only reacting because

880
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:12,239
it's historic. I don't know about
historic, but certainly very old house.

881
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:15,920
» It's old. It's uh interestingly not
enough. Not not its original location.

882
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:20,320
It was moved there
>> decades and decades ago. And yeah, and

883
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:27,199
the city of Melo Park doesn't have any
historic recognition for it.

884
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:32,400
» It is a tired old Victorian house for
sure. And I think also chief in our

885
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:37,280
discussion in the facility committee
there is a kind of another option that

886
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:42,960
seemed like it's being looked at a
little bit more u at least talked about.

887
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:51,320
They haven't gotten any conclusion yet
about the acquisition of

888
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,320
some more property from seminary.

889
01:12:52,239 --> 01:13:00,080
» Yeah. So uh continuing the discussion.
So uh those are the two major things and

890
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:03,840
you know the other two that uh actually
uh is affecting that 2.7 million

891
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,760
increase is now uh third one is the
workers comp. So for workers comp you

892
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:11,760
know we've just seen you know a
significant increase you know in the

893
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:14,560
past couple of years for the claims. So
uh we're trying to anticipate that in

894
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:20,000
the upcoming year as well. So we
increased our budget by $55,000

895
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:27,040
for that. And then the last one is you
know uh the mobilization exercise grant.

896
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:30,239
So that um it's a $519,000
grant that the board actually approved

897
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:34,239
last year as well, but most of the
expenses are going to be in the next

898
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:40,320
fiscal year. Uh so for this one in
particular, um $450,000 is allotted for

899
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:45,440
contract services. It's for our other
participating agencies, but this is

900
01:13:42,719 --> 01:13:50,480
actually completely reimburseable. So
we're going to get the money back, you

901
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:54,239
know, for this one particular.
So I think that's for the general fund

902
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:59,120
expenditure budget and if you turn on
page 116

903
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:05,679
116
uh so page 116 to page 122 so this is a

904
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:09,120
continuation of you know what we did
last year as well last year this is the

905
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:13,520
uh this is the second year that we're
doing it. So what we're trying to uh

906
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:19,280
accomplish here is you know for budget
highlights and new initiatives. So we

907
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:25,840
are trying to um present you know things
that are new uh for the next fiscal year

908
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:30,239
or any other things that you know u we
think that it's important you know to

909
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:35,920
highlight uh particularly if there's a
significant increase in the budget. So I

910
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:40,080
think there's about 12 of it uh right
now I'm just going to go over uh it real

911
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:44,480
quick. Uh the first one is community
hubs. This is the search cache. I think

912
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:51,040
gauge our farm mash le actually did a
demo or um a walk through of you know

913
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:55,040
the first you know community hub uh that
third cache you know uh so there's going

914
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:59,760
to be two more this fiscal year before
the end of fiscal year and then I think

915
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:04,960
the plan is to add additional three in
the next fiscal year so total of six uh

916
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:11,840
the next one is the see-through
navigator devices uh that's on page 117

917
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:17,600
uh these are the quake cameras that we
received uh this you know fiscal year.

918
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:21,600
So we are actually just uh budgeting for
you know the subscription for a software

919
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:25,440
that's needed for us to be able to
utilize all the functions of you know

920
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:30,480
those.
The third one is the drone as first

921
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:34,159
responder program. So this is you know
uh there's going to be an expansion of

922
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:38,800
the program. So overall, I think we're
requesting about $84,000 and that's

923
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:44,480
going to be for a new dock and then for
all other requests, you know, for any

924
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:50,560
other things that's needed for that.
The next one for pay on page uh 118,

925
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:56,000
election services. So there's going to
be an upcoming election, you know, this

926
01:15:52,400 --> 01:16:01,760
year. This there's three um seats uh
this cycle. So we're looking to fill

927
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:06,800
those positions. Um and we budgeted
about $180,000 for that. I think last

928
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:12,000
time we did it was 4 years ago. Um the
actual cost of that is about $148 or

929
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:16,560
almost $150,000
but with anticipated you know share you

930
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:21,199
know cost increases throughout the
years. You know we decided to budget

931
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:24,400
about 18.
Next one is facility condition

932
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:29,360
assessment. This one was actually
already approved last year by the board.

933
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:34,000
uh we are just rebudgeting it because we
are postponing the project you know uh

934
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,400
just uh priorities came up you know uh
other priorities actually came up this

935
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:44,320
fiscal year so um this project is going
to get postponed for the next

936
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:50,400
the next one is IT infrastructure
equipment replacement so there are just

937
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:54,960
you know a lot of you know um uh
equipment you know IT related you know

938
01:16:52,560 --> 01:17:00,400
uh equipment that we needed to replace
because it's already um uh nearing the

939
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:04,800
end of life or it's already uh non
functioning. So that's you know pretty

940
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:10,000
much you know what the budget is. The
next one is the Nox key secure upgrade.

941
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:17,040
So we're just upgrading that our uh Knox
uh uh branded key secure units uh to uh

942
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:20,640
I think secure system. Uh I think all
the functions are actually written on

943
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:26,080
that. Uh but if there's questions feel
free to ask.

944
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:30,159
» Is it is that an electronic system?
>> Uh does it require power? Yes.

945
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:33,920
» Does it require power?
>> Uh I think they those knock systems

946
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:38,400
already have power going to them because
they operate electrical gates. But also

947
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:41,840
for just the fixed ones that are on a
building that don't have power, it would

948
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:48,080
be battery operated. Yeah. It'll have a
battery in there. Um, but this will I

949
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:53,520
don't know if that's your question, but
it's yeah, completely digital um with

950
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:59,280
full tracking of everyone who removes
the digital key and accesses it and also

951
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:06,640
the ability to recode. I mean, we won't
we won't ever lose. I just

952
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:11,760
I I hope we take a hard look at these
because this idea of not being able to

953
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:15,040
get in a Knox box because the batteries
run out or something of that sort.

954
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:19,760
» I'll double check. There's got to be
some kind of redundancy.

955
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:25,560
» Yeah,
every time I get one of these things

956
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:25,560
that's supposed to be fail safe,

957
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:35,760
I'll double check and get back to you,
but I'll check with our expert gauge.

958
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:41,199
How much how how much is an up the
upgrade is really just

959
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:43,360
so on private property with an upgrade.
Um

960
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,800
» we're going to Yeah, we're going to
upgrade everybody's box. We're not

961
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:49,920
asking the community to do something
that we want to do because they've

962
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:54,719
already got it installed, but it's on
it's everyone's gate. It's everyone's

963
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:59,920
building. It just replaces the tumbler,
the mechanical tumbler with this

964
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:06,159
electronic entry. But somebody like um
like Facebook for example might have I

965
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:10,239
don't say 50 of those things but yeah we
we will replace whatever is necessary to

966
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,679
make everybody digital
>> that that project would come before the

967
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:18,480
board though at some point right
>> assuming the funding exceeds my ability

968
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:24,800
to sign for it.
>> Yes. But it looks like we're asking for

969
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:28,320
funding for $9,000.
Um, so it might not.

970
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:33,280
» Well, it's hard to imagine it would only
cost 90,000, but I thought it would make

971
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,080
90 million.
>> No. Yeah.

972
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,440
» So,
>> I'd probably be saying no to that.

973
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:43,520
» Never got
>> So, Chief, are you saying that the

974
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:46,560
knockbox are run off of batteries?
>> I'm going to check

975
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:49,520
» because
answer. It's got to be.

976
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,040
» The question didn't become who's going
to replace the batteries

977
01:19:51,600 --> 01:20:00,120
» and the call. Who going to pay for that
cost? I'm gonna have a good answer for

978
01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:00,120
you at our next board meeting.

979
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,640
» So, uh the next three one uh the next
three are actually things that we

980
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:12,719
already discussed. The temporary office
relation, the whole grant and the

981
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:20,000
temporary fire station as well. Uh and
then if you turn on page 121, uh the

982
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:25,360
wellness initiatives. So this one I
think in the past like two years I think

983
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:31,280
it started uh when we actually asked for
uh some budget for some wellness

984
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:35,120
initiatives. So uh we the board actually
approved you know the 25 sessions you

985
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:39,199
know psychological
uh counseling sessions you know for each

986
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:44,480
you know employee and then for next
fiscal year we're budgeting $180,000 for

987
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:49,760
that. But there is new next fiscal year
that you know we wanted to actually do

988
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:53,040
as well. Um it's we're budgeting about
$170,000

989
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:57,520
you know to implement a critical
wellness you know program you know aimed

990
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:01,520
at strengthening the health performance
and resilience of the district

991
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:06,480
personnel. So all the components are
there. Um the chief could probably talk

992
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:10,560
about this more but our goal really is
you know of course you know collectively

993
01:21:08,719 --> 01:21:14,080
to deliver like short term short and
long-term you know benefits you know uh

994
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:19,920
enhancing you know of course you know
the the person's you know operating

995
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:25,120
readiness uh the risk of injuries um um
reducing the risk of injuries and you

996
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:30,000
know and eventually um we're hoping you
know to actually um lower our workers

997
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:35,120
you know compensation costs you know
with this. So uh chief

998
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:41,040
» yeah I will share shortly as Elaine
noted as we were talking about our

999
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:45,760
workers comp is on the rise significant
I mean that's the same

1000
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:50,159
with everyone the cost of treatment the
cost are 48 50 times so what we're

1001
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:53,360
trying to do yeah and I I love our
employees and really seriously

1002
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,960
interested in their wellness I'm also
interested in trying to reduce and

1003
01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:03,920
control costs
and we have um there's four four major

1004
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:08,560
fire departments, LA City, Dallas,
Fairfax County, and Phoenix that have

1005
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:14,880
all implemented similar programs
um where they're bringing some uh some

1006
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:20,000
physical therapy therapy and rehab and
recovery elements into the fire stations

1007
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:23,920
kind of to proactively treat. You know,
as we get older or with this job, we

1008
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:27,520
always have nagging injuries. were
trying to prevent them turning into

1009
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:33,840
something more serious work result in
treatment or time off and the results I

1010
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:38,159
will just share you know somewhat
anecdotally because there's so many

1011
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:45,040
variables but in general the return on
investment is two to five times um on

1012
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:50,080
this we'll see over time but again
that's that's part of it is trying to

1013
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:53,679
also reduce our costs in addition to the
you know by other

1014
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:58,719
health and safety.
>> I like that thing, you know.

1015
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:01,679
» So, are we
>> I was going to just say, oh, one other

1016
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:07,280
thing. Even though the we're spending
$170,000

1017
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:11,760
approximately on this new program. Um, I
made some reductions in the overall RMS

1018
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:16,480
budget. So, the net increase is right
around $100,000. Still, we made some

1019
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,520
reductions in some areas. So, it wasn't
such a

1020
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:27,840
Sorry, Dr.
>> It's okay. I It may be a rhetorical

1021
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:35,199
question, but are are we uh keeping a um
any kind of analysis database as to

1022
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:38,000
from the beginning as to
>> yes

1023
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,159
» five years from now to see if this if
there's going to be

1024
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:45,280
» we'll be collecting data. I'm going to
call it as I do with most of new

1025
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:48,639
programs a kind of a pilot program and
you know actually I don't anticipate

1026
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:53,199
we'll be able to measure its efficacy
after a year but after a couple years

1027
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:57,440
we'll be able to measure the data uh
we'll collect that internally and also

1028
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:02,639
working with ICS our workers comp
provider our third party administrators

1029
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:06,600
so that that's our plan and we'll report
back on the results too

1030
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:12,880
» I think I think the last one for the
budget highlight I can new initiatives

1031
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:17,840
is the workers comp which we actually
already discussed in detail so I'm not

1032
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:22,800
going to go over you know that um then
the next one so that's the general pond

1033
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:30,560
budget so uh we uh the next two uh pawns
is probably going to be very quick so

1034
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:33,719
for CIP um if you turn on page 123 of
the packet

1035
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:42,880
so again on third to the last column you
know our total budget Right now, our

1036
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:49,360
proposed budget for fiscal year 2627 is
about $4.5 million.

1037
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:54,080
Um, and it's uh $3.4 million is for
actual, you know, constructions and CIP

1038
01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:58,960
projects. Then the 1 million $1.1
million are is related uh to uh purchase

1039
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:07,159
of fixed assets. So,
>> purchase of what? fix.

1040
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:07,159
» Uh those are things that are um

1041
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:16,960
uh unit uh those are purchases with a
unit cost of $10,000 or more based on

1042
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:22,360
our current policy. Um so if you turn on
page um 126

1043
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:30,320
so um so that table over there just
summarizes you know the ongoing

1044
01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:34,719
projects. So, uh that we currently have.
So, we don't have any uh new projects uh

1045
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:38,400
that you know we're going to have
besides the ones that we have right now

1046
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:43,040
or at least on the construction you know
piece of it. So, uh all of the budget

1047
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:49,040
you know that we propose are anything
that's ongoing. The only item that you

1048
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:55,360
know is new for the next fiscal year um
is the ERP system upgrade. So, we

1049
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:59,679
budgeted $300,000 for that. Um, so
although it's not a construction, you

1050
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,120
know, uh, per se, it's, you know, under,
uh, CIP, it's an improvement because

1051
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:06,639
it's going to be a long-term, uh,
there's going to be long-term benefit,

1052
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:09,840
you know, for that ERP system upgrade.
So, we're going to have to capitalize

1053
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:13,280
it. And you know with you know the
discussions in the past that keeping

1054
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:17,840
everything that you know we are
capitalizing into the CIP fund we

1055
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:22,480
decided to actually uh be consistent
about it and you know we are um putting

1056
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:28,719
you know this you know budget you know
of $300,000 you know for uh the CIP fund

1057
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:31,520
for the next fiscal year. So uh just a
little bit of background on this one.

1058
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:34,719
We're actually already starting with you
know the project. So this has something

1059
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:39,920
to do with you know our you know
financial and HR systems. So right now

1060
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:43,280
um we have like the four or five like
different systems. You know what we want

1061
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:47,280
to do is you know we want to change you
know our overall like ERP system to

1062
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:52,080
enhance functionalities because right
now our system is really outdated. um it

1063
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:57,920
doesn't really give us you know uh much
you know uh capabilities um and with you

1064
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,280
know all the you know things that's
going on you know with you know the

1065
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:05,760
growth um and then the difficulty and
complexity of just you know with you

1066
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:10,159
know accounting finance and HR you know
processes you know we decided that it's

1067
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:14,560
time to actually you know switch to a
better uh hopefully a better like you

1068
01:27:12,639 --> 01:27:19,920
know ERP system so we're starting the
process now um we are looking for we are

1069
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:25,040
actually in the process of you know um
doing our due diligence you know

1070
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:30,080
reference checks with you know our uh
consultants uh who actually um uh

1071
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:35,600
submitted you know proposals for the
first phase of the project. So we are

1072
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:40,639
anticipating you know by I think I would
say at the earliest last quarter of next

1073
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:44,320
year uh we're going to start with you
know the implementation of the new ERP

1074
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:49,920
system.
Implementation meaning not like fully

1075
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:56,080
ready but starting to actually switch
doing you know the all you know the uh

1076
01:27:53,760 --> 01:28:01,600
data entries migration you know parallel
testing all of that stuff.

1077
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:05,120
It implies in here that you won't have a
payroll service anymore. You're going to

1078
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:09,920
do it in house. Is that correct?
>> It's not nec it's it doesn't necessarily

1079
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:14,960
mean that you know we're actually going
to you know uh I mean it's an option but

1080
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:18,320
you know what again what we're doing
right now is you with the consultant you

1081
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:22,719
know is you know we're trying to
actually have them help us you know with

1082
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:26,000
the needs assessment part of it. So that
means like you know we are trying to

1083
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:30,320
understand you know how our current
system actually functions you know what

1084
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:35,440
can we improve what do we need what do
we want um and what it makes sense what

1085
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:40,000
what is really better for the district
based on our you know current you know

1086
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:45,360
operations. So we may actually you know
uh do it in house we may keep it

1087
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:49,840
separate it all depends on you know um
the results of you know of the first

1088
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:55,679
phase of you know the project. Um, so
we're not really um decided yet whether

1089
01:28:53,360 --> 01:29:00,159
or not, you know, we're going to do it
inhouse or yet continue to, you know,

1090
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:05,040
outsource, you know, the cutting of the
checks uh pretty much. So, we're trying

1091
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:08,880
to weigh all of our options and again,
there's going to be a lot of work uh

1092
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:12,639
during the first phase of, you know, the
project where we're going to really

1093
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:17,360
analyze, you know, all of that needs.
>> The goal would be to pull into the ERP

1094
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:21,199
if possible. Um but we just have to go
through the process to see because

1095
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:27,360
especially with public agencies and
special districts and bar groups um we

1096
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:34,639
need to make sure that it that it can
manage effectively all of the rules. Um

1097
01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:40,000
the goal would be to
not have a system.

1098
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:41,920
» Have we had any problems with that
>> with our current payroll?

1099
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:48,880
» Yeah.
>> No. Um the issue is um not that there's

1100
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:55,040
necessarily problems. It's that um our
payroll system doesn't substitute for an

1101
01:29:51,679 --> 01:30:01,840
HS system. And so it's not um
comprehensive. So like say for example

1102
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:08,400
when we do um a wage table change which
is anou negotiated increase um it's

1103
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:12,880
basically updating an excel spreadsheet
and manually entering those changes into

1104
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:19,360
our payroll system versus if you have an
ERP and you can go and do these manual

1105
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:25,760
mass updates. It's just less like room
for error, less manual entry, just kind

1106
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:31,040
of having an ERP system that can
actually store salvary tables versus

1107
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:35,360
having these Excel tape, you know, it's
just it's just antiquated the process we

1108
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:40,159
currently use. So, it's just trying to
kind of bring it up to date.

1109
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:44,880
» Yeah. I think also uh in addition to
that as you know uh with um with

1110
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:50,560
advantage of you know have keeping it
you know in-house or having it in house

1111
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:54,880
is we have more control of you know uh
uh the system. So if there's going to be

1112
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:59,920
any change you know with you know uh
theus you know we can pretty much you

1113
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:03,360
know uh do our own thing and then start
to you know just you know uh

1114
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:08,320
incorporated into the system instead of
like relying on you know uh the third

1115
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:12,639
party system which sometimes can be
really difficult uh because you know

1116
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:16,400
there you can have like a good customer
service rep and then the next day you

1117
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:19,600
know uh no one knows about you know what
we're talking about. So at least with

1118
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,280
with this one you know we have more
control so we can have like more backups

1119
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:27,040
and you know more training cross
trainining you know with you know people

1120
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:32,560
in you know the finance departments. How
how how do you now two things how do you

1121
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:37,040
deliver checks to employees
um

1122
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:42,800
because not everybody's at work all the
time. And then um

1123
01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:48,400
are you having payroll taxes paid
automatically or are you writing checks

1124
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:54,000
for the various
>> uh no so we're using ADP so they do all

1125
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:57,760
of that for us. So um they're cutting
the checks you know sending the payments

1126
01:31:55,760 --> 01:32:03,199
you know to to employees. I think right
now most of our employees are

1127
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:08,400
» uh no not by mail it's electronic. So I
think you know I would say about 99%

1128
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:11,760
I would say of you know uh the district
person are getting paid through

1129
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:16,159
electronic direct deposit electronic
payments. Um there's a few instances

1130
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:20,400
where we have to cut checks. Uh but
that's only when there is let's say um

1131
01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:26,239
there's a new change in you know their
bank account and uh payroll already was

1132
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:30,159
processed. So we have to actually you
know uh cut you know an actual manual

1133
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:36,239
check you know to them. And again, ADP
is, you know, mailing that. Um, so other

1134
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:40,400
than that, it's all electronic. Um, so
that's, you know, I mean, in terms of

1135
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:45,360
taxes, you know, of course, we still do
the reconciliations. We do all the work.

1136
01:32:42,639 --> 01:32:48,480
Um, ADB is pretty much just, you know,
um, sending it out like for

1137
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:52,639
communications, you know, to people when
it comes to, you know, the tax, you

1138
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:58,560
know, things like that.
>> Yeah, that's good for record keeping.

1139
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:02,719
So with the new system you got you going
to bring where is the data going to be

1140
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:06,239
stored in house or it's going to be all
>> yes it's going to be

1141
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:12,320
» the goal is as Francine mentioned the
goal is you know um it's going to be uh

1142
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:18,159
a news it can be stored in the new
system whatever that system would be uh

1143
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:22,320
but you know most of the work or all of
the work like you know all the

1144
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:26,000
reconciliations like sending out W2s
it's all going to be in counts like

1145
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:28,800
cutting the checks. Uh when I say
cutting the checks, doesn't mean that

1146
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,840
it's a manual check, but you know,
sending in those payments for like, you

1147
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:36,000
know, their salaries, you know, their
compensation, it's all going to be the

1148
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:39,679
responsibility now of, you know,
finance. So, we're going to set it up

1149
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:45,280
all in the system, all into the system.
But once it's set up, um it's pretty

1150
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:48,080
much, you know, uh good to go unless,
you know, of course, there's going to be

1151
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:52,800
like, you know, changes like, you know,
uh here and there. uh but everything is

1152
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:57,600
going to be in-house now meaning we
we're not you know using any third party

1153
01:33:55,679 --> 01:34:00,960
uh to do you know some of those you know
responsibilities.

1154
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:05,600
» My thought and concern was what if you
have a fire in the office

1155
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:11,040
» and you got to get to the data.
>> So it that it won't be on prem meaning

1156
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:15,440
that we're storing this on servers. Um
it's actually these are cloud-based

1157
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:19,760
systems. That's
>> I mean at least our goal is cloud-based

1158
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:23,280
right? Um it helps us with you know uh
controls as well like financial

1159
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:26,159
controls. Um of course we're going to
need to have like you know some sort of

1160
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:30,400
like you know compliance requirements
like stock to like certifications you

1161
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:34,639
know things like that. Uh but it's going
to be cloud-based. So it's going to be

1162
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:37,600
stored uh um into that you know that
system that cloud-based system. So it's

1163
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:42,880
not stored like
>> physically manually. So even if there's

1164
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:47,600
a fire um as long as we have a laptop or
an internet connection we can still you

1165
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:55,400
know process you know payments
and I think the last one would be the

1166
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:55,400
special budget which is on page 113.

1167
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:05,520
So, uh I apologize. I think you know uh
some of the tables got messed up uh

1168
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:10,639
during the process. Uh but uh that table
um

1169
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:14,239
I don't I don't it's table second kind
of table. The the table in the middle

1170
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,360
» table 2.5.
>> Yeah.

1171
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:20,719
» 2.5.
>> Yeah. The table in the middle. Uh so uh

1172
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:24,560
we are budgeting $1.4 million in
preliminary for the special revenue

1173
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:29,199
fund. Again as a refresher uh special
revenue fund this actually houses you

1174
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:33,520
know the operative agreements. So that
1.4 million really is just the estimated

1175
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:38,880
carryover
of you know you know grants you know

1176
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:43,760
that we have. So since it's a cost
reimbursement grant uh the budgeted

1177
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:50,239
revenue and budgeted expenditures are
the same. Um and then I think the rest

1178
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:55,199
are you know forformational purposes you
know um only we also did you know some

1179
01:35:53,280 --> 01:36:02,639
five-year you know projections you know
for our budget uh on page 136 to 138 uh

1180
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:09,040
and then the rest are just some sort of
details you know per per

1181
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:14,400
» so uh I think that concludes you know uh
my uh budget presentation so um if there

1182
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:19,520
are any questions uh I think director
Before you guys ask questions, I I

1183
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:25,280
texted Gage. I'm like, "How does this
Knox system work?" It's you love this uh

1184
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:30,480
brilliant answer. The battery is
actually in the key that we carry in the

1185
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:33,440
engine. So, when you plug the key in,
>> it powers the unit

1186
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:39,920
» and it's always being charged by the
12vt battery in the fire engine.

1187
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:43,679
» I'm not a billionaire.
>> I couldn't think of that. I'm like, "Oh,

1188
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,280
it's actually I'm like, "Wow, what a
great idea."

1189
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:48,480
» Yeah.
>> No need to ever charge the battery and

1190
01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:51,280
carry it.
>> You just got to be to plug it in every

1191
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:55,199
now and then.
>> You put it in somehow it powers it up.

1192
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:58,800
Beyond that, I don't know the answer how
it works, but I just know that's the

1193
01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:06,320
answer. And I can check that off my
list. I will not report back on it.

1194
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:10,920
» I have a question on page 165
talked about the impact of

1195
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:16,360
in the paragraph says

1196
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:30,000
well I think it should be broken down
you see the paragraph

1197
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:34,880
yeah the
sheriff's office has one regular city

1198
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:40,480
has one then there's a north county one
so I think they just need to

1199
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:46,480
specifically break that down
from just the the generalized counties

1200
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:51,119
four and I'm sure each one of them have
different training commitments

1201
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:54,320
» and you'd like that called out to
identify is it three or four teams but

1202
01:37:53,520 --> 01:38:01,639
it's 14
>> so they're not the counties you just

1203
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:01,639
want so there isn't a misunder

1204
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:09,760
think of the sheriff's office those
other agencies should

1205
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:23,119
Can I comment? This is something we
discussed before. Um, and this is where

1206
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:29,199
we as a district are supporting the law
enforcement, other districts and so

1207
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:32,320
forth. And well, I'm not opposed to
that. That's one of these things where

1208
01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:38,960
the county is coming and asking for more
money because all the supports they give

1209
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:44,320
us. But I I think we should be clear
that this is a this is a commitment of

1210
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,719
ours to provide this,
>> right?

1211
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:51,360
» And it is it's not just the county. It's
like all it's that collaborative of all

1212
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:57,760
law enforcement agencies across the
county, whoever utilizes each other's

1213
01:38:53,119 --> 01:39:02,719
SWAT teams. And we're we are almost all
that of the fire agencies in the county

1214
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:07,199
are providing medics to the SWAT team to
actually protect this. I understand what

1215
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:10,080
I don't remember that that they didn't
all do it. We were one of the few that

1216
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:14,159
provided it.
>> I don't know how many people from us or

1217
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:17,440
what the makeup of the teams are. I
think we have three active participants

1218
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:20,960
in the team.
>> But you're probably right. Not every

1219
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:27,040
agency has somebody on there just
because some of the smaller agencies

1220
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:30,320
don't even have staff. But yes, that's
>> and again this is this is not in support

1221
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:35,600
of the county. It's in support of the
law enforcement officers there.

1222
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:40,960
It almost never was we almost never
supported a real incident. Most of the

1223
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:45,679
support was for training set purposes so
>> but it just when we did it again it

1224
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:49,080
increased our overtime and all those
kinds of things

1225
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,639
» Rob you finished.
>> Yeah.

1226
01:39:53,520 --> 01:40:00,880
» Yes. Thank you.
>> Uh I have one last question before we

1227
01:39:56,719 --> 01:40:07,360
leave the lane spreadsheet. uh on page
188 and Chief can probably answer this.

1228
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:10,360
It has to do with the explorer program.
Um

1229
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:18,960
the general question is we can be all
>> 181

1230
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:25,239
» 181 or 88
>> 181.

1231
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:25,239
» You know I got that sug.

1232
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:35,920
Um first question is is is um
um you talked about to ensure success

1233
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:41,760
successful completion of explorer
program and prepare student to advance

1234
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:47,119
into a mill park fire cadet program. So
is this what you was kind of making

1235
01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:52,320
reference to earlier the cadet program
is that the one that's related to sail

1236
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:58,800
or something entirely different?
>> Um it's it's entirely different. The

1237
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:03,440
explorer program is in general supported
by I don't know it's not it's no longer

1238
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:08,960
called boy scout area but it's for
people that are generally in I don't

1239
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:13,119
know what the age range is
>> high school

1240
01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:17,440
» yeah 17 to 21 kind of in that range and
that's for people just to get some

1241
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:21,360
exposure they come do ride alongs hang
out at the fire station and do very

1242
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:26,159
limited duties
the cadet program that we have is also

1243
01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:29,600
So,
this is for people that have been

1244
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:34,719
through
a um

1245
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:43,119
not an inservice academy, but a
community college academy and they um

1246
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:47,840
will come and participate as kind of a
fourth person. They spend the night at

1247
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:53,360
the station, one shift a week. Um oftent
times it's a stepping stone to

1248
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:58,159
employment with us. We've hired uh I
know over half of our department are

1249
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:02,400
people who have formerly been cadets.
So, but it's a separate separate

1250
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:06,080
program. Some of our our explorers is
kind of like a work experience program

1251
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:10,880
» that you get in high schools to give
people exposure to that and it's local

1252
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:14,800
kids for us. Uh the cadet program, it's
a little bit broader reach, you know,

1253
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:18,960
for the people that come and apply and
it's a that's that's usually a stepping

1254
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:23,679
stone from our cadet program to buy
service somewhere.

1255
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:27,760
fire department hire from our cadetses
all the time and hopefully we do.

1256
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:31,280
» So this is
>> Yeah. And then and the whole community

1257
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:36,080
college thing is completely separate
with us putting our people in. We may

1258
01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:39,760
end up hiring some of our cadetses and
putting putting them into the College of

1259
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:43,600
Sonale program. So they'll go through a
second academy,

1260
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:49,440
» but it's an inservice academy that's
geared specifically towards

1261
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:55,360
um Sanontale County Fire Agencies. So
the exporters is at um middle Aston. Is

1262
01:42:52,560 --> 01:43:00,480
that where it originate from?
>> Uh I don't know if they just come from

1263
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:05,520
MA. Um I'd have to check. I think we
allow it from any of our schools, public

1264
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:09,360
or private school program.
>> Okay.

1265
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:13,159
» Thanks.
Any other question?

1266
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:26,360
» Just for clarification, Franc said it's
age 14 to 21.

1267
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,360
» 14 to 21.

1268
01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:41,679
» Okay. Okay. So, there's a lot more. Do
you have any comments? I don't know if

1269
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:47,760
anyone's
in out in in Zoom for public comment,

1270
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:50,560
Denise, but there's no one here, but I
wanted to check.

1271
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:55,679
» Yeah. No, we have no hands raised
online.

1272
01:43:51,199 --> 01:44:01,440
» Okay. Okay. Well, so um thank you. Great
job. And this is the preliminary budget

1273
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:04,719
book. And I guess next month are we
getting

1274
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:08,480
» Yes. Next month. Next month. Yeah. We
still uh have an opportunity to actually

1275
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:11,840
take a look at the budget, but we're
going to adopt it pretty narrowly

1276
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,400
budget. Thanks. Next.
>> Yes. Okay.

1277
01:44:13,679 --> 01:44:20,000
» Sure.
>> Do you is the staff essentially done

1278
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:23,760
with this now or do you expect some
significant revisions?

1279
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:26,880
» Uh we don't necessarily expect
significant revisions. I think in the

1280
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:30,480
past, you know, few years, you know,
there's, you know, uh two or three

1281
01:44:28,239 --> 01:44:34,880
things here and there. It depends on you
know uh how significant the information

1282
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:39,360
you know we received during you know
April to you know May and June. So uh I

1283
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:43,600
think last year you know there was a
change you know because of you know the

1284
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:49,280
influence increases. So again it would
depend but I think I'm right now I'm not

1285
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:58,159
anticipating any big changes besides
probably um uh the uh personal cost uh

1286
01:44:55,360 --> 01:45:06,159
budget. So between now and then uh I
think you know depending on you know how

1287
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:08,639
uh yeah so we so be that might be a a
cause of the change but you know we

1288
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:13,360
don't know yet.
>> So I don't want to ask the number or

1289
01:45:10,639 --> 01:45:19,520
anything but when you prepare this did
you make an assumption about

1290
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:24,320
what the contract was going to be?
>> Seven assumptions.

1291
01:45:21,199 --> 01:45:29,920
» Okay. So that there's a it's possible
that there would be no change in what's

1292
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:35,040
going on, but but we're dealing with it
to some extent plus or minus I don't

1293
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:39,760
know 30% or something like that.
>> Not necessarily 30%

1294
01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:44,080
10%.
>> Yeah. So our assumptions I mean uh it's

1295
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:49,679
really just you know since you know it's
not final and without authority uh

1296
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:54,400
there's nothing yet in place. So this is
just a reasonable you know um assumption

1297
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:59,840
based on you know um historical trends
plus you know uh current you know market

1298
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:05,040
uh surveys. So that's you know what we
kind like you know put preliminary. So

1299
01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:12,000
» good answer. So within what you're
saying is there a um area of

1300
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:17,520
fluctuations or area that may create
this change that that that Chuck might

1301
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:21,199
be alluding to in terms of dollars
amount. um um

1302
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:27,920
» anticipated
>> in terms of percentage director or

1303
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:33,840
» yeah percentage or or errors that may we
may we may think that it's x today but

1304
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:37,679
tomorrow it may based upon what's going
on may change like

1305
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:42,239
» uh yeah I mean I would say of course
again can't really say much about you

1306
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:47,679
know what's going on right now but um I
think the changes that you know might uh

1307
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:54,320
have an effect with you know the budget
probably would be of course you know um

1308
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:57,760
colas of course and then probably health
uh and I think those are the two major

1309
01:46:56,080 --> 01:47:02,400
ones uh but then again we didn't really
disclose anything but yeah

1310
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:06,960
» no I will say for for anyone that may be
watching this live or the recorded thing

1311
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:10,159
there's no need to go and try to reverse
engineer the numbers because they're

1312
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:14,719
just
you know there's we not based on

1313
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:18,800
anything related to board authority or
where we need to end up being it's just

1314
01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:23,679
reasonable
exceptions.

1315
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:27,080
» Okay. Then can we move on to proposed
agenda items?

1316
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,560
Discuss the underest

1317
01:47:31,679 --> 01:47:40,480
position on mutual aid versus auto aid
and related issues in advance of the

1318
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:45,320
county requesting addition.
So this is um

1319
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:53,119
I mean I guess
figure out

1320
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:57,679
» really it's an opportunity for director
Bernstein since it's on the agenda more

1321
01:47:55,679 --> 01:48:02,800
clearly explain what you'd like to
accomplish versus that and for you to be

1322
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:06,480
able to have questions and then via a
vote decide whether or not to place it

1323
01:48:04,639 --> 01:48:11,119
as the future. You
>> want to kick it off Chuck? Yeah, let me

1324
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:14,080
let me ask a question first in reference
to what you were talking about with

1325
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:18,440
PaloAlto.
>> Yeah, I was just

1326
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,440
» um

1327
01:48:19,679 --> 01:48:29,000
can we legally do
auto aid across county line?

1328
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,880
» So Mark and I kind of talked about that.
He's trying to

1329
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:40,400
» I don't know. I mean that you're asking
a legal question. I I know in my last

1330
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:45,280
jurisdiction we did it u with Santa
Barbara County agencies and LA County

1331
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:49,520
and LA city agencies wanted the issue.
Then we had a formal agreement that I

1332
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:57,320
think was approved by our board.
>> U we had done this before the the fire

1333
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,320
chiefs

1334
01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:04,960
» chiefs it was that they had like a
little council where they met once a

1335
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:09,520
month or whatever.
San

1336
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:14,320
» sanitary county and they vetoed it um
and basically made it hard for us to do

1337
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:20,159
but I I don't know how they had any
authority to do that and

1338
01:49:16,639 --> 01:49:24,800
» I don't yeah I don't anticipate that
>> yeah the group dynamics have changed I'd

1339
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:30,800
be surprised if anyone wasn't
>> well let me this is really important to

1340
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:36,239
me I live in the south end of the county
it's heavily wooded

1341
01:49:32,719 --> 01:49:41,440
» and um we have nobody on our southern
end that can come and aid when we've got

1342
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:46,080
things that involve migrating north
because of something that's happening in

1343
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:52,480
Mexico City or San Carlos whatever and
so that's that's important and we're

1344
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:59,280
very close to Alto both particularly
station two um

1345
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:08,239
we're very close to be able to help them
as well so to me I I I think it's

1346
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:13,840
important but I I I don't like us I
don't like the fact that dispatch could

1347
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:19,679
send our units elsewhere and leave us
potentially uncovered in places that

1348
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:23,760
that bothers me. I wish we could get
back I don't know if it's possible to

1349
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:29,440
get back to a place where we had some
detail follow and where this

1350
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:35,119
particularly became an issue was when
Redmond City decided to close its

1351
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:40,239
station on our
>> downtown our northern border the one the

1352
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:44,159
closest one there and then we were
responding to all their calls and they

1353
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:50,080
did it to save money which was very nice
but it left us sending moving you know

1354
01:50:47,679 --> 01:50:55,760
people to legislation
and

1355
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:59,520
that's not cooperative. I mean, and I'm
troubled by the fact that the county

1356
01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:03,440
doesn't cover weekend neighbors. They're
fortunate

1357
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:07,920
and that's us doing it.
>> They get the money and we get we get the

1358
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:15,280
work and that that just doesn't seem
fair. So, I'm I've been troubled by

1359
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:22,800
Also, we we we buy a water tender. Well,
that's wonderful. But the fact that I I

1360
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:30,719
was I am against us putting that into
the pot that that um and I think maybe

1361
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:35,920
you reassured us slightly last time that
that dispatch couldn't just send it

1362
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:42,480
somewhere and leave us without it if he
needed it and so forth. But I think the

1363
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:48,159
county has been trying over the years
to, you know, they talk about, oh, being

1364
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:55,280
a team player and and participating with
the whole community and all this kind of

1365
01:51:50,400 --> 01:52:00,400
stuff to to effectively try to create a
countywide fire department.

1366
01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:04,880
And I I just don't think that's right.
Also, if we care about our training, if

1367
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:13,080
we think our training is really
superior, we put extra money into it,

1368
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:13,080
why should we let it go to Redmond City

1369
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:20,239
when we might need it? And why should we
get red cities coming in if we don't

1370
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:24,480
think it's
as well trained? And I know that's

1371
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:28,159
politically incorrect to say, but here
we are trying to beef up our training,

1372
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:34,639
do a better job, getting better
equipment, getting better apparatus

1373
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:38,560
so that we can serve. And and again, no
reports, and I know why politically it

1374
01:52:36,639 --> 01:52:44,239
would be
um explosive for us, but we do not

1375
01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:51,280
provide a report, which we used to do,
on how much aid we send out and how much

1376
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:58,239
aid comes back in. You never see you
never see that because it was a huge

1377
01:52:54,159 --> 01:53:05,040
imbalance. We were a giant exporter of
fire services. Um and I don't think it's

1378
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:10,320
fair to our taxpayers. So I I I think
the auto aid

1379
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:15,760
is a blank check for agencies that want
to cut their budgets and so forth. Now I

1380
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:23,760
realize Palo Alto did that for a time
being. They they they've put that back.

1381
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:29,040
restaffed at South Palo Alto fire
station that they had a millfield and

1382
01:53:25,679 --> 01:53:35,840
things like that um after they had a big
fire and there was I think a delay in

1383
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:40,560
getting fire engines to it. But um
anyway, I I I just think we should

1384
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:44,960
retain more control. I think but I I
know operationally that's hard to do

1385
01:53:42,239 --> 01:53:52,159
because dispatch needs to know what it
can send out. For a time, we did not put

1386
01:53:48,639 --> 01:53:57,599
all our engines into the pie because we
weren't being reimbursed for them. But

1387
01:53:53,920 --> 01:54:04,080
now, I believe they're all in the pot.
So, all of our all of our engines can be

1388
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:09,920
dispatched and all of our when we first
bought the second truck,

1389
01:54:06,639 --> 01:54:13,760
um it it was not put into the pot and
but now it's in the pot as well. So we

1390
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:18,320
could be in a situation where both of
our our ladder trucks are out in other

1391
01:54:16,480 --> 01:54:24,080
jurisdictions and we don't happen to
send. So all that troubles me and I just

1392
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:31,920
don't know how we can manage that if
auto is just the prevailing subject.

1393
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:36,159
Well, I think the probably the largest
well

1394
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:42,560
the door that was open when we all
turned over dispatch services to the

1395
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:48,000
county and gave them with the old
dispatch

1396
01:54:44,159 --> 01:54:53,199
responsibilities to use a CAD system
where they could dispatch engines and

1397
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:58,400
personnel and equipment where they they
needed to. So that door was open a long

1398
01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:02,560
time ago. But you know, you bring up a
good point. Just the aspect of water

1399
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:08,239
rescues.
According to our budget, uh we're

1400
01:55:05,599 --> 01:55:13,840
spending between 724,000
and 566,000

1401
01:55:10,639 --> 01:55:20,960
to do water rescues on the bay because
we have the airboats. I mean and of

1402
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:27,440
course we have task force three that
uh completes all those rescues and you

1403
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:32,880
know that responsibility falls with us
and Paul Alto doesn't even they have an

1404
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:40,560
airport they don't even have rescue
responsibilities there. So yeah, it's

1405
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:46,560
it's a huge problem, but you know,
like we had he ate a home fire and we

1406
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:50,239
sure needed help.
>> People came along,

1407
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:57,199
» right?
>> Well, I was just thinking the community

1408
01:55:52,880 --> 01:56:01,280
fire in East Pal,
right? Did he have backup from

1409
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:04,800
backup?
>> It was mostly in

1410
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:11,280
» Yeah. So,
>> so in that way it works.

1411
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:16,320
» Yeah. Well, but you know it's not not
one agency

1412
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:22,480
it's a major incident including
taking calls for service you know huge

1413
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:26,719
volumes of emergency calls. So I mean
you know when we had our own dispatch

1414
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:33,199
there'd be no way that we could handle
all those calls for help. So,

1415
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:36,639
» so is my understanding
>> a little, you know,

1416
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:39,440
» well, we're trying to figure out if we
want to put this on the agenda. So,

1417
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:44,560
» yeah, I think we need to put on agenda
because I'm following what Rob just got

1418
01:56:41,199 --> 01:56:50,320
to see on the fly. That's what I
>> we get you as the backup came from River

1419
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:53,760
City rather than Palto.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And so that Yes.

1420
01:56:52,239 --> 01:56:58,960
» Yeah. Because it's a different county,
Robert.

1421
01:56:54,960 --> 01:57:04,159
» Yeah. I mean this is only a half a mile
you know.

1422
01:57:00,639 --> 01:57:09,040
So I mean I would be willing to put this
kind of agenda item on the agenda if the

1423
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:16,000
chief is okay with it. But specifically
with regard to PAL working off

1424
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:20,960
» again it's it's easy for me to
>> put an item on my chief's report because

1425
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:26,639
a lot of director Bernstein's concerns I
I could address right now. I just

1426
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:32,159
» I'd probably get kicked in the shin.
>> Yeah, I would kick you in the shin. But

1427
01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:38,960
um and I think it would give you a lot
of um comfort in hearing what my

1428
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:41,760
response would be. Um so I could easily
put it on my next month's chief's

1429
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:46,000
report.
>> And we can and then we can see whether

1430
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:49,119
that answers the question sufficiently
enough and I'll I'll put it out there

1431
01:57:47,679 --> 01:57:50,400
enough so there can be some discussion
around it.

1432
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:54,000
» Oh, sure.
>> But I don't think it would, you know,

1433
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:58,800
require a really robust staff report as
much as a conversation. I talked about

1434
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:02,480
Palatoto, what we're trying to do, the
issues like you mentioned about with

1435
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:06,239
Redwood City shutting down a station
because there's similar issues in North

1436
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:13,440
County that they've been able to address
through technology now. So, it equalizes

1437
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:18,400
things.
if that's satisfactory. I

1438
01:58:15,679 --> 01:58:24,560
» I'm not arguing with that, but I was in
the past I think we tried to make the

1439
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:27,920
chief's report not a discussion
place

1440
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:32,080
» generally and but it's I'm I'm finding
that we can address some of these things

1441
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:35,760
if I appropriately agendaize it so that
the public's aware

1442
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:43,040
» that we can have a discussion without it
creating a lot of staff work and a

1443
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:47,520
formal board or stat report. um you know
and then we can just kind of have a an

1444
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:51,440
open dialogue about it and there could
be a discussion and we can see if there

1445
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:54,560
if there's anything else that needs to
be addressed but

1446
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:57,840
» as long as they have a discussion I'd be
fine

1447
01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:01,199
» then why why don't we hit that on next
month's change report is that

1448
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:04,800
» I got it that's
>> does that work for you

1449
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:10,719
» yes
>> okay then let's do that and see that

1450
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:16,840
it's satisfactory okay then moving on to
item Seven. Are there any new proposed

1451
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,840
agenda items?

1452
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:25,520
None. Okay. Then we'll go to reports.
Committee reports. Emergency

1453
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:30,080
preparedness. Gary
facilities. Robert.

1454
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:32,639
» Oh, we made I think the chief report we
talked about it.

1455
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:39,119
» Okay.
HR. We did not need finance. Robert, I

1456
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:41,840
know that Er's channel is actually
muted.

1457
01:59:39,599 --> 01:59:45,840
» Well, I think we went Elaine went over
the same stuff that we went over

1458
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:49,280
tonight. So, I don't think I don't have
anything else to add.

1459
01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:51,599
» I've got one thing unless you saw his
email.

1460
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:52,800
» I saw his email about the audit
committee.

1461
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:59,360
» Yes.
>> Yeah. So, um does any basically he sent

1462
01:59:57,119 --> 02:00:01,360
Gary was Did he just text? Actually,
Robert, I don't know if you've seen it.

1463
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:06,159
No, I haven't.
>> Okay. So he just emailed it to us a

1464
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:11,280
couple of hours ago right before the
meeting started and he basically says

1465
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:16,320
that the audit committee concurred with
concurred with the staff recommendation

1466
02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:21,760
to run an RFP process for our external
auditors. So I don't know if anyone on

1467
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:26,239
that Robert or Mark
>> basically that was yeah it normal

1468
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:33,520
process I don't know every what was the
number how frequently six years

1469
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:38,639
» so just it's a best practice that we
>> yeah we were in agreement that we we

1470
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:42,800
should do it and it's possible that we
may select and it's permissible to

1471
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:48,159
reseelect I Bailey but
>> but different members

1472
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:53,520
» but anyway Anyway, it's just a good best
practice. And so that's what the finance

1473
02:00:50,800 --> 02:01:00,159
audit committee agree and in concurrence
with staff's recommendations.

1474
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:02,639
» Are we required to take the proposal
with the lowest price if we do it that

1475
02:01:02,239 --> 02:01:11,280
way?
>> Uh no. Uh since it's an RFP cost is only

1476
02:01:06,719 --> 02:01:14,960
one of you know the criteria uh for uh
selecting you know there our you know

1477
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:18,960
external auditors. So it can be a
combination of different things. So we

1478
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:24,199
don't necessarily need to actually
choose you know the lowest cost b for

1479
02:01:21,199 --> 02:01:24,199
that's

1480
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:35,520
» okay. Anything else from finance
you outd did yourselves. Okay. Uh,

1481
02:01:31,599 --> 02:01:40,000
liaison reports county
has east.

1482
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:44,800
» I don't have anything.
>> One little park. Really nothing to

1483
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:53,040
report except that I went to their
spring fest and east drive hunt um on

1484
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:59,040
April 4th and it was a huge success.
Thank you to the firefighters. they

1485
02:01:55,679 --> 02:02:04,960
really outdid themselves and made sure
that everyone who was there had a a good

1486
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:09,199
time. And then I went to um East Palato,
it was the same thing. So it was

1487
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:14,000
wonderful.
>> Think of anything else. I don't think I

1488
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:17,000
have anything else for you. Um Santo
County

1489
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:26,400
for Santo County, but for the premed.
>> Okay. Yes, that's the next thing. JPA.

1490
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:34,159
You know, I just emailed uh the board
about 5:15 today some correspondence

1491
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:38,199
that they sent me involving the new uh
contractor that

1492
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:56,320
contract.
>> Yeah. The gist of it is is that JPA is

1493
02:02:53,440 --> 02:03:03,360
hiring federal engineering to do an
evaluation at the radio infrastructure

1494
02:02:59,119 --> 02:03:07,320
as well as some procurement processes
with the thoughts on

1495
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:13,719
anyway that's can be discussed at the
meeting.

1496
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:22,239
» So they haven't cancelled the meeting.
No, maybe not. And I don't think

1497
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:28,320
» Well, I mean, it's really problem,
you know, they're doing this kind of

1498
02:03:24,719 --> 02:03:35,560
hiring all that. Okay. Well, give us an
update in May, I guess.

1499
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:35,560
» Nothing for the San Francisco

1500
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:39,960
director reports.

1501
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:47,040
I just wanted to
shout out what you just talked about the

1502
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:51,679
the fire
staff at the Easter egg hunt. I mean, I

1503
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:56,800
had a I had a great time and the
families that that I was associate or

1504
02:03:54,159 --> 02:04:02,560
interacting with, it was uh they was
thrilled. I I have never seen that many

1505
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:08,000
kids in one location in the city since
I've been there the last 45 years. And

1506
02:04:05,119 --> 02:04:11,679
they all had fun. I mean, if I I wish I
had have been taking some pictures

1507
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:17,840
because when they threw out the eggs,
you could just s see a wave of kids just

1508
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:23,199
chasing after those eggs and it was I
was just I was really tickled because if

1509
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:27,360
you can imagine when that happened and
and the staff was good, too. I mean,

1510
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:31,679
they were very interactive with the uh
the young kids that came by and did the

1511
02:04:29,119 --> 02:04:37,760
face painting. And the balloon lady, she
was there for almost what, three hours.

1512
02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:42,480
And she stayed there and blew up every
balloon for uh for every kid that was in

1513
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:48,560
line. She gave balloons. So, it was
really good. It was real organized.

1514
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:53,280
So, thanks to the staff, the fire the
fire folks for being there and putting

1515
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:59,360
it on.
and and city council members, a couple

1516
02:04:55,360 --> 02:05:04,119
of them came by and it was actually uh
uh related to the turnout.

1517
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:14,560
» Okay, Chuck, anything? Yeah, just just
one quick minor thing and that is um

1518
02:05:11,679 --> 02:05:22,239
when I read the fire the fire analysis
reports report um I was amazed you look

1519
02:05:20,159 --> 02:05:28,239
at the fires and there's less than 2% of
the calls are fires and this huge

1520
02:05:25,679 --> 02:05:32,560
percentage of calls for false alarms and
for so-called good intent whatever

1521
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:38,639
whatever that mean I mean we've talked
about what that means but it really

1522
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:45,040
doesn't mean anything Um, and I somehow
think we ought to see what we can do

1523
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:50,480
about reducing that because those by the
time we add up the fuel costs and the

1524
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:54,719
depreciation and the people's times and
I don't know if these are coming at 3 in

1525
02:05:52,320 --> 02:06:00,000
the morning or if these are coming, you
know, during the daytime primarily

1526
02:05:57,679 --> 02:06:03,360
» they got the time on there. They got the
time when all that stuff happens

1527
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:06,880
» but not on each different kind of call.
In other words, for the false alarm, I

1528
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:10,960
don't know if people are doing false
alarms at three in the morning or most

1529
02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:15,679
of them are like school kids during the
afternoon or whatever, but the idea of

1530
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:20,400
waking up people and and disturbing
their sleep and so forth for false

1531
02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:26,239
alarms, I think we should make some sort
of an effort to reduce that. And um but

1532
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:30,239
since I don't know what the problem is,
I don't know I don't have any idea what

1533
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:36,639
the solutions would be. But it would be
worth some sort of a study or perhaps

1534
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:40,960
even a consultant or something um to to
see how we could reduce the number of

1535
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:45,239
times those vehicles go out for a
meaningless run.

1536
02:06:50,800 --> 02:07:00,560
» President actually have a few things to
talk about. Um, one, as I mentioned

1537
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:04,639
earlier in the meeting, I I attended the
CSDA legislative day. I was there for

1538
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:09,679
SDRMA.
Um, but it was really really good. One

1539
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:15,520
of the things that I mentioned earlier
was about the LE potential LE

1540
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:20,560
legislation. Um the other thing that was
very interesting was

1541
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:30,239
a lot of the proposed legislation
revolved around AI

1542
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:34,880
and um just limiting AI or you know just
constraining innovation and not even

1543
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:40,000
realizing that AI is being used for a
lot of things and not you know that

1544
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:44,560
doesn't necessarily replace employee
needs right so I just wanted to just put

1545
02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:48,639
that out there. I talked about our
drones as a first responder and some of

1546
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:54,159
the initiatives and the things that
we've been doing and not just recently

1547
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:59,599
just over the last 10 years, right? The
drone policies and things that we were

1548
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:03,920
doing early on. So, um I don't know if
this is going to be a trend, but I hope

1549
02:08:02,159 --> 02:08:08,320
that next year if there are any
directors because we used to send

1550
02:08:06,239 --> 02:08:14,400
directors there and even I mean Harold
was Mark maybe you should go next year

1551
02:08:10,719 --> 02:08:19,760
just because a lot of these um these
proposed legislation legislative well

1552
02:08:17,679 --> 02:08:24,480
proposed legislation
might affect what we're doing I mean

1553
02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:31,199
technologically and even with the life
situation financially. So, I think that

1554
02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:36,000
the more that the special districts get
engaged, the more they take us

1555
02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:40,560
seriously. So, I just want to put it out
there that I think it's if if anyone's

1556
02:08:38,639 --> 02:08:46,480
available to go next year, it's I think
they're going to move the legislative

1557
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:50,480
days as a CSDA to April. I I think it
would be worth it right now because

1558
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:57,360
there's just so many changes going on
that I think we should hear about or

1559
02:08:53,119 --> 02:09:03,599
give input about or input for. Um I also
met with Josh Becker's office with Joan

1560
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:11,880
Dipler his district director and this is
regard to the family on Alamita Del or

1561
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:11,880
in Atheus

1562
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:22,159
uh in the sirens and all of that. So, I
don't know what the solution is, but I

1563
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:28,239
kind of offer us work with Gary and
maybe Josh's office to go and talk to

1564
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:32,000
the family and maybe with Travis, but
maybe I I don't know. So, we're we're

1565
02:09:30,159 --> 02:09:36,480
trying to put figure out who should be
there just so they to kind of educate

1566
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:41,760
them, right? I mean, it's not really
there's nothing intentional about, you

1567
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:45,599
know, making having the sirens just go
off willy-nilly there because that's not

1568
02:09:43,679 --> 02:09:50,079
what we're happening. But I think it
would be a good thing if we met with

1569
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:55,840
them face to face. So that so she wanted
to to talk about that. Um, and the third

1570
02:09:53,360 --> 02:10:01,440
thing was we had the interview with the
potential clerks, the our board clerks.

1571
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:06,480
We interviewed three candidates today.
They were all very very good and um

1572
02:10:04,239 --> 02:10:13,119
based on the timeline I'm hoping that
we'll have someone maybe by May by the

1573
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:18,079
May meeting. And so they're all
experience. They come from um you know

1574
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:22,239
just different backgrounds, different
parts of the state, some with larger

1575
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:26,079
cities, some with smaller cities,
special districts, you know, that kind

1576
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:30,960
of thing. So any one of the three that
we get, I think will be really good. And

1577
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:37,520
I just want to thank the board for you
know kind of asking me to go and sit in

1578
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:42,880
on the interview. Um I did mention that
the the importance of um the board clerk

1579
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:48,239
to the board and what it means you know
for us to to have a very very close

1580
02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:52,560
working relationship with with this
whoever becomes the our next board

1581
02:10:50,320 --> 02:11:00,239
clerk. So they understand that you know
the board um input and the board's

1582
02:10:55,679 --> 02:11:05,360
importance is is for us and it's
important but also for the public it's

1583
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:11,400
important and I think they all stressed
their role and responsibility to the

1584
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:11,400
board and and recogn

1585
02:11:19,599 --> 02:11:25,920
Francine and Mark, thank you for being
here and really fancying for your team

1586
02:11:23,679 --> 02:11:29,360
for putting this process together. I
thought it was really good and I think

1587
02:11:27,599 --> 02:11:34,480
we have three good candidates. You can't
go wrong with any of them.

1588
02:11:31,599 --> 02:11:38,320
» Do you have anything to add about it? I
think we um you know it was fast process

1589
02:11:36,639 --> 02:11:41,480
but I think the candidates are you know
we have

1590
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:55,360
» Okay.
I'm just curious, do do most or all of

1591
02:11:53,280 --> 02:12:00,079
them live locally?
>> Um um well, what do you mean by locally

1592
02:11:57,679 --> 02:12:10,079
in the Bay Area? Yes. But locally,
there's one who lives um in Sano County.

1593
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:14,159
» But we're not planning to relocate.
>> No, there's not a relocation issue that

1594
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:16,400
I know of.
>> They Yeah, they all live within

1595
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:18,880
community distance.
>> Yes.

1596
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:25,360
» Yeah.
Okay. Anything else? Okay. Well, then I

1597
02:12:21,679 --> 02:12:30,960
guess uh we'll adjourn on to the meeting
of May 92 at 9.

1598
02:12:29,599 --> 02:12:35,960
Thank you. Thanks, Denise.
>> Thank you, everyone. Have a great

1599
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:35,960
evening.

1600
02:12:36,239 --> 02:12:38,880
Thanks.