1 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:38,200 On the events of last Friday, in Paris and in France, France are ancient ally who joined us in our fight for independence in our revolution. 2 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:41,990 Worldwide 3 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,180 came to that city, many of the citizens suffered. 4 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:52,160 If you would remember them and you have thoughts on your prayers in this moment of silence. 5 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Thank you very much. Are we going to have the, okay? 6 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,960 we're just going to listen to the French National Anthem. 7 00:11:19,810 --> 00:11:21,510 Very much and I'm sure we all 8 00:11:21,510 --> 00:11:31,960 would agree that any attack by terrorists join us all together in common cause. 9 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Thank you all start the board meeting. 10 00:11:37,170 --> 00:11:38,510 The clerk will call the roll. 11 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:52,320 Council member Kappa here council member Foley 12 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,460 President 13 00:11:53,460 --> 00:11:54,260 Council member Canada. 14 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Thank you very much. 15 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,060 We'll have a report to the board. 16 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Yes. 17 00:12:08,450 --> 00:12:16,330 We put a revenue for the town for office for the month of October, with 71,086 dollars and 3 cents. 18 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:19,370 May I have a motion to accept report item number 1? 19 00:12:20,990 --> 00:12:22,670 All those in favour? 20 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:23,350 Aye. 21 00:12:23,810 --> 00:12:24,370 Opposed. 22 00:12:25,270 --> 00:12:25,630 Thank you. 23 00:12:25,810 --> 00:12:29,930 We move on to the communications consensus agenda on which there are six items. 24 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:33,250 Yes, there are six items on the communication consensus agenda. 25 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:36,230 May I have a motion to accept these communications? 26 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:40,830 communication with the citizens of the world, others in favour. 27 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:41,570 Aye. 28 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:42,490 Opposed. 29 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:44,910 Thank you. 30 00:12:45,210 --> 00:12:45,430 Okay. 31 00:12:45,550 --> 00:12:50,210 We move on to the highway consensus agenda of which there are five issues. 32 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:50,830 Yes. 33 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:54,090 Five items on the highway consensus agenda may have emerged in. 34 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:54,530 So move. 35 00:12:55,890 --> 00:12:56,250 Opposed. 36 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:57,390 Aye. 37 00:12:57,770 --> 00:12:58,350 Opposed. 38 00:12:58,970 --> 00:12:59,910 Thank you. 39 00:13:01,190 --> 00:13:03,530 We move on to the consensus resolution agenda. 40 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:22,180 Councilwoman Pepper. Okay, we'll approve resolution 2015-C-0709 to C-0755. 41 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,860 Second, others in favor. 42 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:26,800 All right. 43 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:28,100 Opposed. 44 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,220 Thank you. 45 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:34,300 You at this point in our agenda, we have general public comment. 46 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,020 And we listen to the public, the Board does not speak or answer questions. 47 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:43,260 We simply listen to the opportunity for the public to come forward. 48 00:13:43,860 --> 00:13:48,420 Every member of the public has three minutes to state their peace and with that, the 49 00:13:48,420 --> 00:13:50,360 clerk has some cards that have been killed out. 50 00:13:50,980 --> 00:14:00,600 We have William Grant, Alexis Grasso, been changed our recall and Anne Hayes. 51 00:14:02,810 --> 00:14:05,670 In that order, you'll each have three minutes. 52 00:14:11,370 --> 00:14:13,550 Mr. Grant, you're going to start first. 53 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:17,420 You can begin. 54 00:14:20,630 --> 00:14:21,690 Thank you, Members of Board for you. 55 00:14:21,790 --> 00:14:22,870 Let me speak tonight. 56 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:25,610 My name is William Grant and the resident of 19, 57 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:27,410 after the road rocky point. 58 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:29,470 I'm also being, I mean, 59 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:32,390 Lifetime member, I'm a student. 60 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:35,470 Lifetime resident of Brookhaven Town. 61 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:36,970 I grew up in Shore and Wading River. 62 00:14:36,970 --> 00:14:47,110 and class in 1990 and I've been, excuse me, and my 43 years have watched the once sleepy towns of the North Shore. 63 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:56,310 We've come in and dated with massive homes and luxury condos and traffic just becoming more immense and immense as time goes on. 64 00:14:56,690 --> 00:14:59,830 And now with the current solar panels. 65 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:21,640 We have another chance to use open space that's going to come, the Tolgrace golf course, to a great end. Having a 25-megawatt solar farm there, by end energy, would be the best use of that land in my opinion. 66 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:29,920 You're talking one megawatt of solar energy at a low end could power 164 homes. 67 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:35,120 Now, add that in with the current project going on, as for us, as per Cape Town residents, 68 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:41,080 that would you go up to about 5500 homes that would get energy directly. 69 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:46,640 It would make us the largest, percaving the largest solar farm in New York state. 70 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,620 Think about the constant revenue that could be brought by this by the... 71 00:15:51,620 --> 00:15:57,580 You know, with the 25 year lease, I'm not sure what the lease would be, but constant and 72 00:15:57,580 --> 00:15:58,520 brocade in needs. 73 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:07,140 I think this would be the best use of this land, no more large homes, large, you know, luxury 74 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:10,980 kind of, seeing my friends leave because they can't afford the area. 75 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Please consider this proposal and approve the possible solar form coming at the Tolbergres 76 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,420 Now, of course, they're good. 77 00:16:25,690 --> 00:16:25,910 Thank you. 78 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:27,890 Hello, Brookhaven. 79 00:16:28,390 --> 00:16:33,850 I'm here to speak about big money and politics, as usual, and to take a different cut 80 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:37,790 at it from, again, the site free speech for people. 81 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:45,090 In an Amicus brief before the United States Supreme Court in American tradition, partnership 82 00:16:45,090 --> 00:16:52,590 versus Bollock filed by 22 state attorneys general, 22 attorneys general, including these 83 00:16:52,590 --> 00:17:01,090 Free Republicans, Robert McKenna, Attorney General of Washington State, 2005-13, Mark Schertleff, 84 00:17:01,550 --> 00:17:09,430 Attorney General of Utah, 2001-13, and Lawrence Waston, Attorney General of Idaho, 2003-2 85 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:16,470 now. In particular, the Amikki states believe that the court should agree examine the 86 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:22,570 assertion in Citizens United that independent expenditures no matter their size or circumstance 87 00:17:22,570 --> 00:17:28,510 stance, rarely cause corruption or the appearance of corruption of federal office holders, as 88 00:17:28,510 --> 00:17:34,250 well as the holding that the federal law at issue in that case could not be supported 89 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:40,070 in whole or in part by government interest in preventing distortion of political campaigns 90 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:46,150 and protecting shareholders from the use of corporate funds for political communications 91 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:47,570 they do not support. 92 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:53,490 The states have regulated corporate participation in politics for over a century. 93 00:17:54,050 --> 00:17:58,370 The states legislate of responses to the citizen's decision. 94 00:17:59,490 --> 00:18:05,170 However, evidence, they are continuing interest in ensuring that corporate expenditures 95 00:18:05,170 --> 00:18:08,590 do not threaten the integrity of their democratic processes. 96 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:14,330 The states have a compelling interest in preventing domination of state and local elections 97 00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:18,630 by non-resident corporate interests. 98 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:26,090 The anti-corruption interests is not the only cognizable government interest that can support 99 00:18:26,090 --> 00:18:28,450 restrictions on campaign expenditures. 100 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:36,890 A polity also has a compelling interest in regulating electoral influence by non-residents. 101 00:18:37,910 --> 00:18:43,830 And non-resident corporations, due to their large aggregations of wealth and discrete 102 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:51,310 economic interests present the greatest risk of domination or distortion of state and local 103 00:18:51,310 --> 00:18:54,670 elections by non-residents. 104 00:18:55,950 --> 00:18:56,710 Thank you. 105 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:08,380 In terms of the good evening, Vincent Erko, Port Jeffes and Station, I'm going to share 106 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:12,620 something that I learned about last week with you. 107 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,640 A new group of politicians has come together, especially for the purpose of the 108 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:24,020 addressing the detrimental effects that money and politics is having on-of democracy. 109 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:33,180 They call themselves the reformers' caucus, and are so far comprised of over 100 former members 110 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:37,560 of Congress and governors, both Republicans and Democrats. 111 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:44,880 They maintain that this problem is the core civic issue of our time. 112 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:51,360 A 70-page report has been published entitled Blueprint Prince for America. 113 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:58,160 The forward to this document was written by two members of this Reformers Corquant, Corquant, 114 00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:04,580 Senator Allen Simpson, a Republican and Senator Bill Bradley, a Democrat. 115 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:12,940 In the report, there are proposed solutions, actionable reforms that can be initiated. 116 00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:21,900 Some have been and some for future, such as full transparency and disclosure, lobbying reform, 117 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:28,940 stronger enforcement of existing laws, and new systems of financing campaigns. 118 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:32,700 All of the ideas all are well intended. 119 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,140 However, the report concludes with this. 120 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:45,020 Despite what the current Supreme Court says, our current Constitution not only supports, but 121 00:20:45,020 --> 00:20:52,260 requires, laws that prevent our democracy from being responsive to only the wealthiest 122 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:52,960 interests. 123 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,460 But if the Supreme Court cannot be convinced of that simple proposition, we will have to 124 00:20:59,460 --> 00:21:06,380 look to changing the Constitution to make even clearer what the Supreme Court refuses 125 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:15,320 is to see that is, if a citizen's ability to exercise constitutional laws is dependent upon wealth, 126 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:19,320 then only the wealthy truly possess those rights. 127 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:26,840 This is why efforts are already underway in states and at the national level to amend the 128 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:33,680 constitution, to make it clear that it is individuals who have first amendment rights, and 129 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:41,020 exercise of those rights on that depend on wealth. Even though there is already widespread 130 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:47,040 support for a constitutional amendment, getting an amendment passed is a long and difficult 131 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:54,120 process. We have moved to amend a grain and we ask you to help us in that process. Thank you. 132 00:21:58,090 --> 00:22:08,550 I say, thank you, my comments will go toward the budget that you intend to vote on tonight. 133 00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:21,730 And I wanted to address the unfortunate distortion of what I said last time with regard to the proposed budget for the South Country ambulance district. 134 00:22:21,730 --> 00:22:31,030 My comments had to do with the disparity between the expenses that are reported by the private 135 00:22:31,030 --> 00:22:37,970 corporation that provides ambulance service in the district, the difference between the 136 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:42,970 figures they report to the federal government and the ones that they've presented to you 137 00:22:42,970 --> 00:22:47,830 in connection with their request for funding for the upcoming year. 138 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:56,890 It's apparent on the face of it when you look at the 499 that gives a total functional 139 00:22:56,890 --> 00:23:08,010 expense of 1.625 million that it also shows that included in that total is over $200,000 140 00:23:08,010 --> 00:23:11,890 of what's called depreciation, which is not an actual expense. 141 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:21,310 If you take the 200 out of the 1.625, you're left with 1.4 million that would be actual expenses. 142 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:31,810 Yet this particular corporation has submitted to you a request for more money than that, and your budget picks it all up. 143 00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:39,370 So you can't get away from the fact that you've authorized money in the past that's more 144 00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:44,990 than has been actually expending, and you can't get away from the fact that this corporation 145 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:51,410 has accumulated liquid funds of a million and a half dollars or better. 146 00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:58,010 In spite of that, in your budget, you've increased the line item for equipment purchases. 147 00:23:58,010 --> 00:24:15,750 I'm submitting to you that it's inappropriate and fiscally irresponsible for you to keep adding sums up in a budget and giving increases when there are significant taxpayer funds that have been accumulated. 148 00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:22,690 And this is all taxpayer money that has come out, so not only has it been accumulated 149 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:29,990 by the private corporation, but in addition, this board has not yet done anything to take 150 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:37,910 advantage of health insurance reimbursement for ambulance services at a base reimbursement 151 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:43,570 of approximately $400 per call that would be Medicare approved. 152 00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:46,730 That's a million dollars, or better, 153 00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:51,270 and reimbursement that would be available to the South 154 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:55,390 Country ambulance district, and you've not been taking advantage of it. 155 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,660 Next four speakers, Sherry Vittington, Steven Lupo, Greg Salantino, and Robert Sonado. 156 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Good evening. 157 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,760 I'm here to talk about the proposed South Country ambulance building and its location. 158 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:54,100 As I mentioned at the last town board meeting, all the literature that was sent out during the campaign specified that Supervisor Romaine was an environmentalist. 159 00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Also, at the budget hearing, two topics of importance in the budget were of importance in the budget, to improve quality of life for residents as well as less in carbon emissions. 160 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:19,220 Having lived in Belport Village for 58 years, our community and surrounding communities are being saturated with pollutants. 161 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:35,620 We have the landfill, we have three industrial plants on Beaver Dam Road, where huge tractor trailers are leaving from these industrial buildings and traveling on Beaver Dam and station road. 162 00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:40,200 And this happens all day long. 163 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:48,260 Now the proposed location for the South Country Ambulance building on station road, 164 00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:53,260 that property has the only greenery left in the area. 165 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,840 Don't these industrial buildings as well as tractor trailers, 166 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:11,840 The only greenery left on Station Road is taken away doesn't this affect our quality of life. 167 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:18,100 The traffic is horrendous on Station Road and Beaver Dam Road. 168 00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:25,440 In the Greater Belport land use plan, it indicated before South Country ambulance building 169 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:37,400 was put in, that the proposed that the complaints were made regarding traffic and safety and 170 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:44,880 congestion on Beaver Dam Road, South Country Road, and Montau Highway. Three years ago, I mentioned 171 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:50,920 at one of the meetings that the Planning Board turned down and access road on to Beaver Dam Road 172 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,400 because of congestion and because of traffic. 173 00:27:57,950 --> 00:28:04,590 I would like to read to you, and I'm not going to have time, 174 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:11,630 but I would like you to review the town law 202A expense of maintenance, 175 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:25,310 because there's been no regard to giving us what it's going to require to maintain, to the 176 00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:32,010 expense of maintaining the improvement for this fiscal year of this particular building. 177 00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:38,670 And it's taxpayers living in this district have a right to know the maintenance clause. 178 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:40,190 Thank you. 179 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,650 Mr. Lofa, you can begin. 180 00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:47,090 Good evening. My name is Stephen Lofa. 181 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:52,490 I'm here tonight to ask this Board to recognize the elephant in the room. 182 00:28:53,070 --> 00:29:00,810 And that elephant is our government is institutionally corrupt from the influence of money. 183 00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:08,830 This week, Assemblyman Silver is on trial for the corrupting influence of money. 184 00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:14,310 Senator Skello's is on trial for the influence corrupting influence of money 185 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:21,770 The executive of an asshole county he's laid up from the corrupting influence of money the 186 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:26,070 supervisor of the town of Oyster Bay 187 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:31,670 He's not talking either because of the corrupting influence of money. I can go on all day 188 00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:41,150 For this this past election cycle 20 19% of registered boat is turned out to vote if we take it to consideration 189 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:48,190 The people that are potential voters and decided not to register, what do we have? 190 00:29:48,270 --> 00:29:53,050 12 percent, 12 percent, show up the vote, we call ourselves as a democracy. 191 00:29:54,530 --> 00:29:58,950 The folks who want on this past election cycle, you can pay yourself on the back, but 192 00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:59,970 you pretty much want to prevent it. 193 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,500 78% of potential voters, can we really state that we are a representative Democratic Republican 194 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:14,560 this point? People have disgusted, they disenfranchised, and no one wants to admit it. It's the 195 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,580 elephant in the room. 196 00:30:18,460 --> 00:30:22,800 It's embarrassing. Let's admit it. 197 00:30:26,850 --> 00:30:27,950 Supervisor Remain, 198 00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:36,030 will you 199 00:30:36,030 --> 00:30:43,710 Councilman Panaco, Councilman Foley, Councilwoman Kephart, 200 00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:49,150 Councilman LeVow, Councilwoman 201 00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:49,950 Bonner, 202 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Councilwoman Cautwright, 203 00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,580 does anyone in this room still believe we are representative 204 00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:01,920 Democratic Republic? 205 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,780 I don't think so. Not if you being honest, 206 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,260 we've spoken here many 207 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:17,200 times, urging this board to support the notion that money is not speech and corporations, 208 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:23,000 unions, any non-human entity is not in doubt with the nail, even with human rights. If this 209 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,260 movement, if our government is going to change, if we're going to end this institutional 210 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:34,740 corruption, it's going to start here at the town level all across this nation. Grass roots, 211 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:44,110 bottom up. That's the only way we're going to restore ourselves to a representative democratic 212 00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:46,570 of the Republic. Thank you very much for listening to my comments. 213 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:52,510 Mr. Seventeen, this is Seventeen. You can begin. 214 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Good. Greg Seventeen, is that you? 215 00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:57,680 It's Seventeen. 216 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,660 Seventeen. 217 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:04,040 I came to this board meeting for months ago to speak about the accessory apartment with you 218 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,380 board and an illegal apartment on my block on a cab and a household. 219 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:15,980 When that time I was told that things would be looked at about that apartment and nothing 220 00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:17,780 has been done at all. 221 00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:21,280 The owner's back was exactly the same thing he did during his summer. 222 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:26,320 He's got a tent on the main dwelling living in the back room and he just rented the apartment 223 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:33,940 the steel legal apartment to a couple as it stands and they have two cars, right? 224 00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:40,840 Nothing was done. No follow-up, nothing. It's unbelievable that I come to this place and 225 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,940 explained to you about criminality that was going on at that apartment and you all turned 226 00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:53,680 a blind eye at a deaf ear. Nothing was done. Now he's back to his old. Now the owner is back 227 00:32:53,680 --> 00:33:01,500 to what he was doing before. Your codes are ambiguous and barely enforceable and no one is there 228 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:09,040 force him at all. He has his apartment going on again, and nothing's been done. And to add 229 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,900 to that, a month and a half ago, I'm sorry, 45 days ago, I had a foil request into 230 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:19,900 the town, because I wanted to show you, and give you proof that your accessory partner 231 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:25,720 review board is useless and incompetent, because in a three year period I wanted to know 232 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:32,760 against specific dates, how many cases, review board her, out of those cases, how many were 233 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,580 approved and how many were denied? And I still haven't gotten that request. When I asked 234 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:43,480 about it a week ago, the woman on the phone told me they don't keep those records. What 235 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,420 are you hiding about the review board? Is it a political patronage job that you give your friends? 236 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:55,560 And they just go about their business and just allow apartments to be operated without even 237 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,120 proper bedding of the owners, plus my other foil request was I wanted to see the plans for 238 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,740 that house. 239 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:08,020 Now I have it's mythology of that house, because 26 years ago when that block was built, 240 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:11,160 those in one of the houses, that was available. 241 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:16,940 That house, the living space of the house, and I want to make this clear, the living space 242 00:34:16,940 --> 00:34:21,740 of the house, is 950 square feet, according to your code. 243 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,180 It has to be the living space to the proportion of the apartment. 244 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,080 During that hearing, they're telling me that that house is 1600 square feet. 245 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,560 I wanted to show this board that that house was misrepresented, 246 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,400 and either he'd lie to the board or he'd show the wrong set of plants. 247 00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:42,520 And I still haven't gotten that request. 248 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:44,900 And I'm tired of this town. 249 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,760 In 26 years, it's the same ossified, an eligible bureaucracy that we've been dealing with. 250 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,020 And I just want to make this one little less statement and just want every board member to understand this. 251 00:34:56,180 --> 00:35:00,500 The wheels are just as blind slow, they grind fine, and they grind on. 252 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:03,100 Just read the papers and you want to understand what I think. 253 00:35:10,420 --> 00:35:15,660 Mr. Good evening, Robert Denado, middle island. 254 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:22,620 I'm calling for the resignation of Barack Hussein Obama and if he doesn't resign, 255 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:34,120 I'm calling for the Congress to envision, and I see this merchant smiles over there, but you know, this is what the American public would like, because he is not representing us. 256 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:51,640 When he raised his hand to say that he was going to uphold the fame, the Constitution of the United States of America, the United States of America, not the United States of Islam, or Islam, or whatever they want to call it. 257 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:58,940 So what I'm calling right now is for him to resign, and if he doesn't resign, for the American 258 00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,620 Congress to impeach him. 259 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:07,640 Now, I hear a lot over here about the Citizens United, that's fine. 260 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:17,900 But Supervisor Romaine, November 14, means a lot to you. 261 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:24,660 November 22, 23 means a lot to your American public. 262 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,920 JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy, not by one individual. 263 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,640 And you've heard me speak over here about a news day, 264 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:44,040 Because I sent news day, a letter, 53 years ago, and I said, you know what, it was a conspiracy 265 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:52,480 because Dr. Matthew Perry said that there was interest ruled over here, okay? And not 266 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,880 with that, but a senator said that he was writing in the car and he smelled smoke. Now you have to 267 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:07,400 tell me how the senator can say he's most smoke when it came from this way, when it came 268 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:17,760 from that way. And then also somebody on the commission for the assassination of the 269 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,240 President said, you know what? I was going to vote coming back from Europe when they said 270 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:33,600 They shot. They shot the president. They shot. This was the person that's on the commission. 271 00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:36,400 And it was a conspiracy. 272 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,560 And everybody has an illness that this was a conspiracy. 273 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,600 And that the president was shot by people, not one individual, but by many. 274 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:59,560 And I would like to just end by saying Councilwoman Kepett, I may disagree with you, but I would like to thank you for your service. 275 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:11,020 And I stand you really push the vote and you acknowledge the fact that, of course, here is now going to replace you. 276 00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:12,540 But I would like to thank you. 277 00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:18,280 We have no other cards and 278 00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:23,310 you would like to say something? 279 00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:23,970 Yes. 280 00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:24,370 Thank you. 281 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:25,590 Madam Clerk. 282 00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:30,930 The accessory appointment review board did that application. 283 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:38,150 The attorney who represents him is Jennifer Lunchlitzer and she extensively briefed me 284 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:39,810 both before and after that hearing. 285 00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:48,030 She asked every question that's possible at the time the hearing came before the board to legalize that appointment. 286 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:54,290 The tenant that was spoken of here today was not in possession of the premises. 287 00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:59,150 The people are entitled under our code to accessory appointments. 288 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:04,870 It did pass the accessory appointment review board, but it was a lengthy hearing. 289 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:11,990 We did our due diligence, police matters, or another jurisdiction. 290 00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:16,350 It is now going through the building permit process. 291 00:39:16,510 --> 00:39:20,870 If there are areas of that house that have been converted, 292 00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:23,070 it will be vetted at that time. 293 00:39:23,470 --> 00:39:26,990 Because now the accessory department approves it. 294 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:30,330 And you can look at how many applications they have. 295 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:32,430 They don't have discretion and not the zoning board. 296 00:39:32,430 --> 00:39:36,070 They are there to make sure that it's owner occupied. 297 00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:44,710 The owner of this particular property showed Jennifer a numerous evidence that he lives there. 298 00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:47,910 And it was proven at that time. 299 00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:50,410 It was bills. It was ID. 300 00:39:52,030 --> 00:39:54,530 We did it as best we could at that hearing. 301 00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:59,690 And we understand the frustration that there have been building 302 00:39:59,690 --> 00:40:03,290 selectivities in that house, but that's not under our jurisdiction. 303 00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:06,650 And the accessory point review board doesn't have jurisdiction. 304 00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:12,110 If you prove it's a house, you prove you have certain things in there, parking, etc. 305 00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:15,310 They have to grant, it meets the code. 306 00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:20,310 They're just there to ensure it's own occupied and the apartment is the appropriate size. 307 00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:25,460 One second, I'm sorry. 308 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,120 I just wanted to address something. 309 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,760 Ms. Hayes came up and spoke about the South Country ambulance district and it was part of 310 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,140 were the same concerned that she mentioned at the last board meeting, I did have an opportunity 311 00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:42,860 to sit with Commissioner Morris about it, and he's agreed to speak on it when we talk 312 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:47,080 about the budget a little later. So he will be responding to some of the concerns that was raised 313 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,860 by Ms. Haynes. I just wanted to let her know that we did hear her concerns, and he will address 314 00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:52,240 it. 315 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:59,210 I just have one comment. I want to congratulate my law school classmate and friend 316 00:40:59,210 --> 00:41:01,210 call rate on a beautiful wedding. 317 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,000 Thank you. 318 00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:08,620 And happy birthday. 319 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,180 Thank you. 320 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,320 Thank you. 321 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,020 She was a supervisor. 322 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:12,680 My birthday in the 15th of November. 323 00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:13,660 Oh, have a birthday. 324 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:14,320 Happy birthday. 325 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:14,620 Happy birthday. 326 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,160 Mr. Supervisor. 327 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,940 It's the time to talk to Kevin again. 328 00:41:19,540 --> 00:41:20,420 All right. 329 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:20,880 All right. 330 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:21,740 All right. 331 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,840 My mom hasn't said anything about being single. 332 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,020 So don't bring that up. 333 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,040 She's going to be a nurse. 334 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,040 She's watching this. 335 00:41:28,060 --> 00:41:30,120 I'm going to be, you know, the cast eyes. 336 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:41,000 Okay, with that, we're going to move into resolutions at this time, and we'll start off with Councilman Folley. 337 00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:50,460 Resolutions 0.7, 8.4, 2015, award the bid of number 1, 5, 0.7, 9, planting beachgrass at CBU. 338 00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:54,740 Fire out into the lowest responsible bidder, Lewis Fobado, landscaping, and some moves. 339 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:14,640 Resolution 075 2015 award of the bid number 15078 planting Beachgrass at Ocean Bay Park, Fire Owens, the lowest responsible bidder, Lewis Barbado, and Skating Ink, some moves. 340 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,180 Second. 341 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:16,480 All those in favour? 342 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,140 Aye. 343 00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:17,360 Aye. 344 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:17,800 Post. 345 00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:19,280 Much in cash. 346 00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:23,960 Resolution zero seven eight six two thousand fifteen award of the bid number one five 347 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,600 zero seven six planting beach grass at Davis Park. 348 00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:28,800 Far Island to the lowest responsible bidder. 349 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,860 Lewis Bob bottle landscaping in some move. 350 00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:31,420 Second. 351 00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:32,580 Oh, those in favour? 352 00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:33,260 Aye. 353 00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:34,140 Opposed. 354 00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:35,200 Much in cash. 355 00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:40,760 Resolution zero seven eight seven two thousand fifteen award of the bid number one five zero 356 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,140 seven seven planted planting beach grass. 357 00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:47,080 fire island pines, fire island, the lowest response will be there, the lowest part of the 358 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,140 last gaping in, some moves. 359 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,360 Thank you. 360 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,300 All those in favour? 361 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,700 I post. 362 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:54,500 Washington, Kansas. 363 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,600 Resolution 078, 2015, consent of the town board to the superintendent of the 364 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,460 highways, ordering the taking of and laying out certain roads as highway pursuant to 365 00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:07,100 section 189 of the highway law, some moves. 366 00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:07,640 Second. 367 00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:09,080 All those in favour? 368 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,240 I'm opposed. 369 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:10,780 Question. 370 00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:22,690 Resolution 789 of 2015, authorization to acquire a vacant parcel of Suffolk County 371 00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:28,230 on-land, the drainage purposes, pursuant to section 72H of the General Municipal Law, 372 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:33,550 Bayland Avenue East to talk it, Suffolk County tax fat numbers identified, so moved. 373 00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:35,790 What does it say round on? 374 00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:36,690 I'm opposed. 375 00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:09,190 on that motion? 376 00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:09,630 Yes. 377 00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:10,630 It just occurred to me. 378 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:13,030 How many life guards are we 379 00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:17,070 supplying there to that location? 380 00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:21,090 Yeah, if you could, we could have the pork submission report. 381 00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:23,730 And I would have asked this a work session, 382 00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:26,990 but it just occurred to me in looking at it now. 383 00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:28,330 This has the numbers. 384 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,860 The time of vocabulary reports upon 385 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:38,640 we're supplying three life guards, 386 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,080 throwing the weekday shifts, 387 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,120 And on the weekends, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, there will be four guards. 388 00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,120 And what is the villager of Belport Payne? 389 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,100 Whatever rate, the life cards are going to pay through by the town. 390 00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:51,960 And we charge it back. 391 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,240 52,865 dollars, budget, neutral impact. 392 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,440 Is that include French? 393 00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:59,260 French, yes, which is okay. 394 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,600 This past year, it was just over, it was about $25,000, but we started about a quarter into the season, so we'll probably 395 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,380 to check and so on around 35 or so. 396 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,720 OK. 397 00:45:14,020 --> 00:45:14,540 Others in favour? 398 00:45:14,860 --> 00:45:15,100 Yes. 399 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,480 Any pose? 400 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,220 Motion carries. 401 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,680 792 of 2015 is authorization to transfer funds from the Motor Vehicle Capital Reserve 402 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,480 account to the capital budget for a Motor Vehicle account. 403 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,220 Some more. 404 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:28,440 Second. 405 00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:30,140 Others in favour? 406 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:30,620 Aye. 407 00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:31,340 Opposed? 408 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,700 Motion carries. 409 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:42,460 The 73 of 2015 is a men in 2015 capital budget information technology to establish new projects for intrusion protection. 410 00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:49,800 Do we have anyone here from my team? 411 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,160 No. 412 00:45:50,800 --> 00:46:02,660 The only reason why I ask is because I know that we have spent and sent a staff member from the town to Nebraska with regard to our firewall protection. 413 00:46:07,580 --> 00:46:09,260 I mean, I'm not public safety. 414 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,420 I tell you. 415 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:17,260 Mac and you, Andrew, is this timely and critical? 416 00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:28,200 It's just demanding the budget. 417 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,460 It's just demanding the budget. 418 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,400 It's not taking an action here. 419 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,900 No, I know that. 420 00:46:33,220 --> 00:46:33,680 So what? 421 00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:34,580 All right. 422 00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:37,080 I would make motion to table this until the third. 423 00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:42,080 All those of the favour to table, aye. 424 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,500 Opposed. 425 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,920 Thank you. 426 00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:48,170 And this is a resolution 7.94. 427 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,560 It's a resolution of the town and board. 428 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,380 It's on the town of Brookhaven to the New York State Department of Transportation. 429 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,480 For an administrative hearing to consider a railroad group, 430 00:46:57,660 --> 00:47:00,780 causing infrastructure at Madison Street, 431 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,540 end of our orphaned street in Mastic, New York. 432 00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:08,420 This one, this one should be district six. 433 00:47:08,740 --> 00:47:10,820 So they want to make the notion there. 434 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:13,540 It has a C4. 435 00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:17,000 I'll make that motion. 436 00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:26,150 All those in favor, I pose, I think I'm also making an example. 437 00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:31,650 This is, this is 95, 10th woman, 438 00:47:31,650 --> 00:47:33,650 7.95. 439 00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:36,310 7.95. 440 00:47:36,690 --> 00:47:37,650 7.95. 441 00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:39,970 8.95. 442 00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:43,050 7.95. 443 00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:44,110 It's 2015. 444 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:46,430 It's operating capital budget transfer. 445 00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:47,530 It's so moved. 446 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:51,310 7. 447 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,960 7.95. 448 00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:59,020 7.95. 449 00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,920 7.95. 450 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,240 7.95. 451 00:48:00,580 --> 00:48:01,320 7.95. 452 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,020 7.95. 453 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:05,950 7.95. 454 00:48:05,950 --> 00:48:05,990 7.95. 455 00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:13,200 I know, but I'm gone, I must go to the table now because the computer is not right. 456 00:48:16,030 --> 00:48:17,310 Would you like me to take the resolution? 457 00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:18,530 Yes. 458 00:48:18,910 --> 00:48:19,190 D-4. 459 00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:20,690 Okay. 460 00:48:21,050 --> 00:48:23,730 Can you pay for the bill of the game all the residents are yours now? 461 00:48:23,810 --> 00:48:24,230 Okay. 462 00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:25,570 No worries. 463 00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:31,090 796 is authorization to pay various invoices for goods and services provided with that 464 00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:35,290 professional service, requisition, contract or purchase or whatever, as required by the 465 00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:36,970 committee policy, so moved. 466 00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:38,570 All those in favour? 467 00:48:39,010 --> 00:48:39,470 All those in favour? 468 00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:40,950 Seven ninety seven. 469 00:48:41,170 --> 00:48:46,690 And is authorizing the commissioner finance to amend the 2016 preliminary operating budget? 470 00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:47,550 So moved. 471 00:48:47,950 --> 00:48:48,250 Second. 472 00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:50,890 Okay. 473 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:52,130 It's part of the discussion. 474 00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:54,150 We have all commissioner finance. 475 00:48:54,250 --> 00:48:54,670 You see. 476 00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:56,530 And on the right of our operations map. 477 00:48:56,890 --> 00:48:57,430 Miner. 478 00:48:57,790 --> 00:48:58,350 Mr. Finance. 479 00:48:58,650 --> 00:48:59,650 At the time of right. 480 00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:04,750 Mr. Board members have any questions that they would like to ask. 481 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:07,890 before we move ahead with the adoption of the budget? 482 00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:10,910 I would like to just give you a little bit of background. 483 00:49:11,090 --> 00:49:12,950 How did some amendments came about? 484 00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:15,530 You may recall in the preliminary budget. 485 00:49:15,690 --> 00:49:21,250 There was a small, a plan to use a very small amount of fund balance in the general funds, 486 00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:23,870 and a highway fund to balance the budget. 487 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:31,110 That is because we were closely watching how the final health insurance rate and retirement contribution rates 488 00:49:31,110 --> 00:49:37,410 would come in for the year 2016, it's always a gas until we get much later in the year. 489 00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:44,870 The health insurance rates, we do have, there is not a significant change in what we had 490 00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:52,490 originally projected. However, the retirement countries were considerably less overall 491 00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:57,450 now that we paid off, we had full impact of paying off all of the amortization debt on the 492 00:49:58,290 --> 00:50:06,870 So we were able to reduce the retirement contribution expense in all funds that had employees. 493 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:11,910 And in the general fund, full town, the general fund part town. 494 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:17,430 And in the part town, highway fund, we were able to reduce the use of surplus. 495 00:50:18,350 --> 00:50:23,490 And in the highway fund, we went from half a million to 350,000, which does help. 496 00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:31,790 fund balance for next year. In the two general funds we are now using no surplus, certainly 497 00:50:31,790 --> 00:50:40,730 for the first is a planned use of surplus for the first time probably since I can find evidence. 498 00:50:41,770 --> 00:50:47,450 And that means that we are structurally balanced in our 2016 budget. 499 00:50:47,450 --> 00:51:16,630 So let me just re-emphasize that, obviously, our pension course came in a little less than anticipated that in several other factors, both the A and B fund, the two major general funds, are structurally balanced, did not require any surplus, and the surplus that was needed to balance the highway budget was diminished from over half a million to about 350,000. 500 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:17,310 is that correct? 501 00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:18,470 That is correct. 502 00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:24,250 And I'm not referring to further emphasise that in garbage collection, which is charged 503 00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:32,050 in the past, has been $350, the household is that going down to $345. 504 00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:36,190 That's $353.59, now it's going down to $345. 505 00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:39,250 So it's going down from the price of $14. 506 00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:47,090 down about $14. $14. So garbage collection will be reduced for a household by $14 a year. 507 00:51:48,090 --> 00:51:49,150 Yes, it's still good. 508 00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:51,740 Yes. 509 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,300 With respect to South country animals. 510 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:55,600 Yes. 511 00:51:55,980 --> 00:52:02,220 So let me just try to clarify a couple of things in terms of, I'm sorry, I'm modeling at the garbage 512 00:52:02,220 --> 00:52:07,760 for you going down. What was the, what the course that meant the garbage free to go down? 513 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,560 Councilwoman, if you recall, the town entered into the new 514 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:18,760 Kavantu Agreement, now about a year and a half ago, that allowed us 515 00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:24,940 to, you know, significant reduction in the price per ton of MSW. 516 00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:28,740 So it's had nothing to do with recycling going up or anything like that. 517 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,800 It's certainly recycling going up and less garbage being disclosed 518 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:42,620 health, but we went from paying well over $100 a ton all in to $91.25, all in, so that 519 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:50,120 that $10.15 a ton translated for the 170,000 tons that we generate was able to reduce 520 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,740 the savings. 521 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:51,460 Okay. 522 00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:52,940 Well, so, thank you. 523 00:52:52,980 --> 00:53:00,800 Also, as you mentioned, recycling has produced less garbage on average. 524 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:10,060 We've seen about 4 to 5,000 tons annually less, especially when now the single stream, and that's certainly helps. 525 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,860 I'll grab you for a single stream. 526 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,140 Yes. 527 00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:15,840 And a revenue from single stream. 528 00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:16,780 So it's a combination. 529 00:53:17,060 --> 00:53:19,800 I think the biggest factor is the reduction in the tipping fee. 530 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:26,080 But certainly there are the increased recycling, the diminished waste, and a revenue from the single stream. 531 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,980 But that combination is a lot of some flexibility in the garbage district. 532 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:31,760 Okay, thank you, man. 533 00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:42,040 So with respect to ambulance companies versus ambulance districts, I want to make a distinction 534 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,680 here, it's a background before I go over some of the questions around the ambulance companies 535 00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:48,020 1990s. 536 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:55,460 The town is responsible for the ambulance district, which is required under our filing with 537 00:53:55,460 --> 00:53:59,120 New York State as a special district to provide emergency ambulance services. 538 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,980 There are several cost components that exist in that ambulance district that you will see in the budget. 539 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,560 One is the contract cost for the contracted services with the ambulance company. 540 00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:18,100 But there are other costs, too, for example, the low-sap retirement plan is a big cost in there, 541 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,280 as well as administrative charge back that we make as a town where the legal services, 542 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,060 accounting services, et cetera, that are provided to those ambulance districts. 543 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,220 The ambulance companies are independent 501C3s. 544 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:41,360 They are not the ambulance district, the town contracts with these 501C3, no profit organizations. 545 00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:49,240 And we have a contract with them like we would have with any contractor that provides services 546 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:51,400 on behalf of the tax district. 547 00:54:54,740 --> 00:54:59,720 The ambulance companies are required under the contract to submit 548 00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:05,480 a budget request each year. That budget request is, of course, a great deal of due diligence 549 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:14,620 by the ambulance coordinator, by the liaison of the Council offices, by finance. We review 550 00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:18,580 in crisis and the spending request, 551 00:55:19,460 --> 00:55:23,260 inquire what is behind that sort of thing compared to previous years. 552 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,340 Look at the trend growth. 553 00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:26,380 There is a great deal of discussion and conversation 554 00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:29,300 that goes on between the town and the ambivalent companies 555 00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,200 as we review their budget request. 556 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,340 Eventually an agreement is made as to what that increase will be. 557 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,860 They are entitled to a CPI increase 558 00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:45,620 if the tone so chooses. 559 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,680 And that CPI is defined in their contract. 560 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,840 In 2016, 561 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:56,700 the CPI increased, they were entitled to, 562 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:00,060 the contract that was stated was less than a half of set, 563 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:00,980 .48. 564 00:56:01,540 --> 00:56:06,320 That was less than the .73 that the state controller allowed 565 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,960 as part of the tax cap. 566 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:17,500 The supervisor made a decision to allow the ambulance companies contract amount after a review 567 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,880 to go up a maximum of 0.73. 568 00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:25,120 Some contracts didn't, some of the companies didn't ask for any increase, some asked for 569 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,380 very small increase, but the maximum increase that was allowed was 0.73. 570 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:37,540 So that's a quick history on what happened in 2016, some back on it. 571 00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:48,840 Now, the 990 is an IRS form that is required to be filed by 501c3s who earn income that is 572 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,580 not directly pursuant to the services that they provide. 573 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,200 It's not as relevant at all to the operation of the district. 574 00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:01,320 It is to map it is to, no, it has no bearing on the operation of the district. 575 00:57:01,460 --> 00:57:03,980 This is for a corporation, not for the district. 576 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,380 Correct. 577 00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:11,380 We, I don't run the corporation. I, as in the members of this board jointly, do to the state 578 00:57:11,380 --> 00:57:17,560 law, are considered commissioners of all the ample districts. Correct. But the town, as 579 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:25,160 monitors closely, the 90s, because they do give us information about how much money is being 580 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,680 spent. We certainly wouldn't want to see that we're giving them significantly more money 581 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,220 and they're spending in total, but there will always be, 582 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,560 I would say, in the every 990, I reviewed, 583 00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:39,560 more spending by the 501c3 than their contract request. 584 00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:41,980 So let me ask this once again. 585 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,940 The 990 form has no relevance to the operation 586 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:52,660 of the ambulance district that goes to the relationship 587 00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:55,800 between the private corporation and the IRS. 588 00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:56,640 Is that correct? 589 00:57:56,660 --> 00:57:57,460 That is correct. 590 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,020 Thank you. 591 00:57:58,020 --> 00:58:04,920 And it may as it comes from their audited financial statements, which we, of the 501c free. 592 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,960 Now, in 2014, which is the most current 990-owned file for the South Country Ambulance, 593 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:25,400 as an example, the 990 report demonstrates of $1,652,000 was spent by the ambulance 501c free company. 594 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:34,040 The contract request that year was a million five sixty-eight by the annual company. 595 00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:44,780 So they clearly spent more money than they even asked us for, and this is the type of 596 00:58:44,780 --> 00:58:49,940 thing that we monitor to make sure that it is always more money than we're paying. 597 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,860 Otherwise we'll be following up asking questions and when they come in for another contract 598 00:58:54,860 --> 00:58:57,860 request next year. We'll be asking questions about this. 599 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,380 Thank you, Commissioner Wright. Just one other question related to that. So when the budget 600 00:59:02,380 --> 00:59:08,760 request comes in, you don't review the 990. You review the audited financial statements. 601 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:15,360 Correct? We review both. Okay. We review both. We certainly hope that when the ambulance 602 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:22,360 companies' contract request and they don't come in, that they have completed their audited 603 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:29,220 the mental statements, and filed their 1990, the treats of the virus, like many municipalities, 604 00:59:31,060 --> 00:59:35,780 the audits are often not completed until August of the year. 605 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,280 That was true for this town, for example, for many, many years until we started moving it 606 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,900 earlier in the year to June. 607 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,060 So as soon as we have it, we're reviewing it. 608 00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:50,420 If we can't review the most current year, we're looking at the year before. 609 00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:57,580 And I'm not sure if the public had access to this, but because I sat down with you today, 610 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,840 and we're just looking at some documents. 611 00:59:59,620 --> 00:59:59,960 But it looked... 612 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,200 Like on the audited financial statement, the expenses total expenses for 2014 is 1,613,619 dollars, correct? 613 01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:48,820 in 19. I don't know why. I mean, we would have to ask their orders. No, I could sniff. 614 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:59,960 Why? They're the 90, so these been 1,652, 0,222 versus 1,613,619. The difference is not. 615 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:03,860 In both cases, it's more money than the contract amount. Okay, that year. 616 01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,460 Okay. Thank you. 617 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:08,440 Thank you. 618 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:15,680 I'm just another note, I, you know, I sat down with Commissioner Reiner, I've spoken to you, 619 01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:18,240 Commissioner Reiner, my office has been in touch with you and I had a number of concerns 620 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,680 with respect to the budget and I just want to thank you for sitting down with me to go over 621 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:28,220 everything and to question. They basically come to a agreement with everything I'll be voting 622 01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:34,940 in favor of the budget, but I wanted to just state something for the record. One of the concerns 623 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:41,580 I had was with Inspector the Townwide Council District Park Improvements, initially it has been 624 01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:49,080 since I've been here, $100,000 that's allocated for each council district and recently 625 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:55,740 because of certain capital projects we are knocking it down to $75,000 per council district 626 01:01:55,740 --> 01:02:01,000 and it's my understanding that we're doing that because of extenuating circumstances this budget 627 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,600 cycle, and that for the next budget cycle that we're going to work towards, I'm getting 628 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,260 it back to the 100,000 for each council district. 629 01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:11,940 So I just wanted to put that on the record and make sure that we're in agreement with that. 630 01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:17,200 We will certainly review it until the budget is developed, and we see what the debt services, 631 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,440 I don't know that right now we can commit 100 percent to the 100,000, but I understand 632 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:28,280 you a request, and as we develop the budget with the supervisor for 2017, we will certainly 633 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,080 look at that, 634 01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:37,760 but right now, the town has significant debt, and we need to manage our capital 635 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,040 projects wisely to enable those to get to the 100,000 for next year. 636 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,880 That's what you'll be looking towards, correct? 637 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:52,540 I would like to comment, we are attempting, whenever possible, to limit the amount of debt 638 01:02:52,540 --> 01:03:00,600 That would take on. We thought it was reasonable to reduce some 100,000 to each member of 639 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:05,840 this board, not to supervise it, but town board members for projects in their district. 640 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,640 But as I've told board members, and I think may have been conveyed to Councilwoman Corp, 641 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:18,920 right, if you have a valid project, and it requires more than 75,000, but it's a valid project 642 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:24,620 we would attempt to find the additional money. But in the budget, we put forward a budget 643 01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:31,100 that we think will control spending and debt. But if valid projects come along, we're not 644 01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:38,220 going to let them sit if they are beneficial to communities and we will try to find additional resources. 645 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:46,640 If I may add, as we spoke, Councilwoman, we have been moving towards more specific 646 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:53,720 parks, parks, projects in the budget, the names of the parks and a full budget outlawing 647 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,120 for those parks and more and more away from unallocated money. 648 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,460 And I think the overall parks budget is going up even though the unallocated portion is going 649 01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:05,940 down. 650 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,040 No, I understand. 651 01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:12,340 And as I articulated to my colleague, most of them on the board, I think it's important 652 01:04:12,340 --> 01:04:17,860 that each council district has $100,000 to be able to work with their smaller parks. 653 01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:21,820 It's one thing that they can work with the Commissioner of Parks on without having to 654 01:04:21,820 --> 01:04:25,240 go through the process of fighting over every small park. 655 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,260 I mean, it's clearly something that has to be approved. 656 01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:31,860 You know, the Commissioner of Parks has to say that it's okay and work for move forward with it. 657 01:04:32,620 --> 01:04:37,900 But I'm okay with the 75,000 to this year hoping that we are going to be able to move back up to 100,000. 658 01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:42,100 The other thing is we have an agreement that the Parks Department 659 01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:53,160 We'll purchase a new playground and fencing for Washington Avenue Park in my district out of the General Townwide Park in playground and or townwide fencing line out of 660 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:53,840 2016. 661 01:04:54,740 --> 01:05:01,540 We talked about the specific projects that would be agreement and I just wanted to make sure that this is stayed in on the record. 662 01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:06,500 I was there for that conversation with our first commissioner that was my understanding as well. 663 01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:17,240 Okay, and that's in addition to the 75,000 that I'll be getting, and in addition to any money that was over from this year that hasn't been utilized from my line item, but parts. Thank you. 664 01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:27,090 Further questions for Commissioner finance with the right to reparations? 665 01:05:28,430 --> 01:05:28,450 No. 666 01:05:28,930 --> 01:05:31,910 There being no further questions, we have a motion before us. 667 01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:34,370 I have a second, so I'll take all those in favour. 668 01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:34,970 Hi. 669 01:05:35,330 --> 01:05:35,430 Hello. 670 01:05:36,370 --> 01:05:37,010 Motion carries. 671 01:05:37,310 --> 01:05:37,550 Okay. 672 01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:48,390 We're solution 7-9-8 is authorizing an agreement with Albright, Luciano Zerak and company 673 01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:54,110 PC to provide auditing and accounting services for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2015 674 01:05:54,110 --> 01:05:55,130 so moved. 675 01:05:56,130 --> 01:05:56,310 Albright. 676 01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:57,570 All right. 677 01:05:59,070 --> 01:06:05,830 Resolution 7-9-9 is authorizing the Commissioner Finance to amend the 2016 to 2020 678 01:06:05,830 --> 01:06:07,710 preliminary capital budget. 679 01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:08,970 So moved. 680 01:06:09,550 --> 01:06:10,030 Second. 681 01:06:10,030 --> 01:06:10,870 All those in favour? 682 01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:11,530 All right. 683 01:06:11,850 --> 01:06:12,230 Opposed. 684 01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:13,690 Motion cameras. 685 01:06:14,770 --> 01:06:15,490 And resolution. 686 01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:22,600 800 as authorizing the commissioner finance to amend the 2016 687 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,480 preliminary operating budgets inclusive of special districts. 688 01:06:27,020 --> 01:06:27,420 So moved. 689 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:27,940 Second. 690 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:29,680 All those in favour? 691 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:30,920 Opposed. 692 01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:31,840 Okay. 693 01:06:31,940 --> 01:06:33,700 We have one walk on the capital. 694 01:06:34,220 --> 01:06:35,460 Can we have a second? 695 01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:36,680 Yes. 696 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,460 6. 697 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,960 All right. 698 01:06:43,540 --> 01:06:48,420 We do have decisions before trying to remove the decision count. 699 01:07:08,140 --> 01:07:11,360 The decision number one. 700 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,760 The decision number one. 701 01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:17,700 Six. 702 01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:30,520 decision one, and number one, resolution after public hearing in the matter of adopting a 2016 preliminary operating budget as amended, as the annual operating budget for the fiscal year 2016, 703 01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:36,360 inclusive of special districts, pursuant to New York State Town Law, Section 108. 704 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:41,100 It's a type two secret action, and I shall move. Second. 705 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:53,800 We are on to decision number two, which is a resolution at the public hearing in the matter 706 01:07:53,800 --> 01:08:02,660 of adopting the 2016-2020 preliminary capital budget as an annual count budget for 707 01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:12,220 fiscal year 2016-2020 exclusive of all special districts pursuing two section one-on-line 708 01:08:12,220 --> 01:08:14,300 of New York State Town Law and I some more. 709 01:08:15,540 --> 01:08:16,820 Model's and date five. 710 01:08:17,620 --> 01:08:17,800 Opposed. 711 01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:21,740 OK, decision number three. 712 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:29,060 It is a resolution and order of adoption in the matter of the increase or improvement of 713 01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:42,640 facilities of various special districts for the 2016 Capitol budget pursuant to section 109 and section 202-p of the town law and I some more. 714 01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:48,200 Thank you very much. 715 01:08:48,460 --> 01:08:48,920 Thank you. 716 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:56,120 We move on to decision number four A, and that's going to be carried by Councilwoman 717 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,560 Councilor Scott. 718 01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:59,320 Thank you, Mr. Supervisor. 719 01:08:59,620 --> 01:09:05,880 The first is a negative declaration to consider application of 545 William Foy Parkway for 720 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,800 a change of zone from J Business 2 to J Business 5. 721 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,880 special use permit, the major restaurant with drive-through, and wave-waves of town-boots 722 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,800 special permit, criteria on traffic located and surely new, like someone's back in. 723 01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:21,420 All those in favour? 724 01:09:21,780 --> 01:09:22,200 Aye. 725 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:22,800 Opposed? 726 01:09:23,580 --> 01:09:24,180 I think I can. 727 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,920 And this is the resolution of a downstream to consider application of a 5.45, 728 01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:32,120 William Floyd Parkway, for a change of zone from J. Business 2 to J. Business 5. 729 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,200 Special use permit, the major restaurant with drive-through, 730 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:41,280 The way we was informed was special permit criteria on property located in sure we knew some of it. 731 01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:43,240 Second, all of us in favor. 732 01:09:44,780 --> 01:09:49,040 Okay, at this time, public hearings are set for 630. 733 01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:53,180 We can't conduct any business until 630 at this point. 734 01:09:54,420 --> 01:10:01,200 But I will say that public hearing number 2, we got in a wetland's permit has been adjourned for December 16th. 735 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:10,360 And public hearing number five, regarding a licensed agreement for Fishing Station has been adjourned also to December 15. 736 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,960 At this point, I will entertain you. 737 01:10:14,020 --> 01:10:15,780 I can take a motion on those two gentlemen. 738 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:17,260 Okay. 739 01:10:17,260 --> 01:10:22,500 I will make a motion to adjourn public hearing number 2 to December 17. 740 01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:26,760 All those in private section, all those in favour? 741 01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:27,520 Aye. 742 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,680 Opposed? 743 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,220 Motion carries? 744 01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:35,120 I will make a motion to adjourn public hearing number five to December 17. 745 01:10:36,860 --> 01:10:37,640 All those in favour? 746 01:10:38,060 --> 01:10:38,620 Aye. 747 01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:39,560 Opposed? 748 01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:41,600 Motion has. 749 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,220 Okay, we're going to do something that I haven't done. 750 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,400 I think it's very years that I've been supervisor. 751 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:52,220 We're going to take a motion to go into executive session and discuss a legal matter. 752 01:10:53,580 --> 01:11:00,200 We're concerning the RTA, which we're in litigation with before federal courts. 753 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:00,620 system, 754 01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:08,880 and the kind of turning has communications regarding this litigation for the board. 755 01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:12,760 So I will take a motion to go into executive session for that purpose. 756 01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:18,320 We will come out of executive session, but only at 630 to start public hearings. 757 01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:20,400 Is there such a motion? 758 01:11:22,540 --> 01:11:24,580 Second, other than favour? 759 01:11:27,790 --> 01:11:28,030 Okay. 760 01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:30,750 We're going to the media room to executive session. 761 01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:44,370 I'm going to go 762 01:11:51,310 --> 01:11:54,690 back into General Session. 763 01:11:54,690 --> 01:11:56,390 All those in favor. 764 01:11:56,830 --> 01:11:57,730 All right. 765 01:11:57,730 --> 01:12:05,350 At this time we have a walk on resolution and we're going to have a move by Councilwoman 766 01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:06,070 Kevin. 767 01:12:06,690 --> 01:12:10,570 Okay, this is authorizing the town attorney to settle the litigation. 768 01:12:10,570 --> 01:12:12,570 and town of Brookhaven versus Sillsville. 769 01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:14,090 Most of them haven't had a story. 770 01:12:14,670 --> 01:12:15,490 Motion to add. 771 01:12:16,450 --> 01:12:16,870 Motion to add. 772 01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:17,370 Eight-all-one. 773 01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:18,890 Motion to add. 774 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:21,570 Resolution 801. 775 01:12:22,450 --> 01:12:23,210 Some moves. 776 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:24,130 Second. 777 01:12:25,450 --> 01:12:26,170 All those in favor. 778 01:12:26,690 --> 01:12:27,010 All right. 779 01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:27,930 Opposed. 780 01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:29,070 Motion to add carries. 781 01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:29,950 OK. 782 01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:33,030 This is a resolution authorizing the town attorney 783 01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:35,790 to settle the litigation of town of Brookhaven versus Sills 784 01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:38,710 Rose Road Realty LLC. 785 01:12:38,710 --> 01:12:48,190 for Kevin Rale LLC, US Rail, New York LLC, for Kevin Terminal Operations, Oakland Transportation 786 01:12:48,190 --> 01:12:56,650 Holding LLC, Seals Express by Associates, Woodrow, Brothers Incorporated and Pratt Brothers 787 01:12:56,650 --> 01:12:57,370 Incorporated. 788 01:12:57,490 --> 01:12:58,430 So move. 789 01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:03,490 Okay, at this point I'm going to ask the kind of turning to give a brief explanation 790 01:13:03,490 --> 01:13:06,010 of this resolution. 791 01:13:07,090 --> 01:13:14,870 This resolution authorizes me to further negotiate the particulars of the settlement deal, 792 01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:20,550 which will then be presented at another executive session through the town board. 793 01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:25,590 And at that time, I'll be authorized to sign the settlement agreement. 794 01:13:26,030 --> 01:13:30,410 And the specifications of the settlement agreement will be made obviously public. 795 01:13:30,650 --> 01:13:30,950 Yes. 796 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:31,830 At that time. 797 01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:35,830 the appropriate time board meeting when the settlement negotiations are over. 798 01:13:36,430 --> 01:13:43,090 Right. And the negotiations still continue over language, details, and a number of 799 01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:50,210 other items that need to be the specificity of which needs to be spelled out in greater 800 01:13:50,210 --> 01:13:50,490 detail. 801 01:13:50,530 --> 01:13:56,530 Yes. And once it is fully signed, we will put it into the public domain. It's at a sensitive 802 01:13:56,530 --> 01:14:01,270 point now. We've made much progress. And we want to continue that progress. 803 01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:07,490 So we will be back with the town board at a executive session and then once it is signed by all parties 804 01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:10,410 It'll be filed in the federal court. It becomes public record 805 01:14:12,170 --> 01:14:18,810 Okay, so having been moved and seconded others in favor. All right. All right, I suppose 806 01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:24,230 Okay, we move right into public parents public hearing number one. 807 01:14:26,260 --> 01:14:27,360 I'm hearing number one 808 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,960 You don't want traffic to remain in adjacent and redneck. 809 01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:35,600 Traffic safety will be providing a brief summary of tonight's public hearing. 810 01:14:35,980 --> 01:14:38,300 Too many in the public health care, legal notices. 811 01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:42,160 Public hearings have published no less than 10 days, no more than 20 days. 812 01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:47,800 Prior to public hearing, in one of the legal terminus papers, our office has received the 813 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,060 time to have a debate of a publication from the newspaper. 814 01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:58,220 Before we go further, I just want to, as they're leaving, thank our attorney, in this case, the next one. 815 01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,980 Yes, Rob Calico. 816 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:14,340 Did an excellent job on this? And also Stephanie Davis from FPM, our geologists, we couldn't have done all this great work without her and saved a beautiful piece of land, a nice portion of it. 817 01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:21,940 Okay. So I'd answer up, but they were leaving, and I wanted to thank them for their service in representation that town on this very critical case. 818 01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,460 Good evening, Mr. Supervisor and Members of the Town Board. 819 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,440 The following is a summary of amendments to the kind of vocabulary 820 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,720 uniform traffic code, Article 7, Section 26, 821 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,900 stop and your intersections. 822 01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:36,560 There's one addition for that. 823 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,140 There's one addition on the hand on a vocabulary. 824 01:15:41,150 --> 01:15:41,390 OK. 825 01:15:42,190 --> 01:15:43,170 A share of motion. 826 01:15:44,050 --> 01:15:44,850 Good for you. 827 01:15:46,730 --> 01:15:47,590 All those in favour? 828 01:15:47,950 --> 01:15:48,350 Aye. 829 01:15:48,350 --> 01:15:48,710 Aye. 830 01:15:48,710 --> 01:15:50,010 All those in favour? 831 01:15:52,530 --> 01:15:53,410 All those in favour? 832 01:15:53,570 --> 01:15:53,970 Aye. 833 01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:58,150 Okay, we're on to public hearing number three. 834 01:15:58,410 --> 01:16:00,270 Thank you. 835 01:16:00,270 --> 01:16:00,950 Thank you, Jason. 836 01:16:02,510 --> 01:16:04,710 And we have Joseph Zano from the Planning Department. 837 01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:08,910 Public hearing number three is to consider the application. 838 01:16:09,650 --> 01:16:12,030 For 43 March of Highways Center, Merit's. 839 01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:13,710 I'm sorry. 840 01:16:14,290 --> 01:16:17,110 The application of 43 March of Highways Center, Merit's. 841 01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:22,650 for amendment of restrictive covenants and property of the state and the kind of 842 01:16:22,650 --> 01:16:24,030 rich is new y'all. 843 01:16:24,170 --> 01:16:28,810 Big ol' notices for public hearings, I publish no less than 10 days, no more than 20 days 844 01:16:28,810 --> 01:16:34,010 prior to a public hearing of the legal time newspapers, our office has received the 845 01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:38,550 signed affidavit of publication from the newspaper, Secret Negative Determination will 846 01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:43,310 be submitted by the world's current review resolution, if applicable, we have received a letter 847 01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:49,050 with comments from the East Merchist Center, East Merchist Property Owners Association and the 848 01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:50,830 Merchist-based Civic Association. 849 01:16:51,970 --> 01:16:55,510 The applicant was required to post the property as well as not to fight all property owners 850 01:16:55,510 --> 01:17:01,610 within eight-five hundred foot radius of subject property, and I have the Epidivist-Amalion 851 01:17:01,610 --> 01:17:02,770 Posting in my possession. 852 01:17:04,650 --> 01:17:05,090 Okay. 853 01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:11,430 So, do we have speakers on this and we'll hear from first of all, we're here for planning 854 01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:13,270 what's involved in this application. 855 01:17:14,830 --> 01:17:15,490 Thank you, Mr. President. 856 01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:16,510 Members of the Board. 857 01:17:16,590 --> 01:17:20,350 This project site is located along the north side of Montau Highway. 858 01:17:21,170 --> 01:17:22,910 A west-of-checks-reason road in Sen. 859 01:17:23,210 --> 01:17:26,610 It is 0.73 acres in size. 860 01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:28,750 Currently is owned J4 business. 861 01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:33,800 The site is improved with a residential structure, 862 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,180 which has been converted into an office. 863 01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:41,000 And they bond in the rear of the site with associated landscaping and parking. 864 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:47,200 The site was the subject of a change of zone. 865 01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:05,340 It's a two story frame wooden house. 866 01:18:05,620 --> 01:18:09,740 Yes, on one side of Montau Kaiway adjacent to Mount Pleasant Samitary. 867 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,440 Immediately adjacent immediately adjacent. 868 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,220 Pleasant, which is to the east and north of the property. 869 01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:17,440 In 1989, there was a change of zone application. 870 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:21,160 And it was approved by the town board for J4 business zoning. 871 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:31,240 And at that time, there were covenants applied guidance, restricted the property, restricted the property, and used solely as a law office. 872 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,200 Law office with two attorneys only. 873 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,620 And addition, it was also that we remain residential. 874 01:18:37,660 --> 01:18:40,820 Residential and appearance character, and there would be no further building. 875 01:18:40,860 --> 01:18:41,680 No further building. 876 01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:43,320 So we're lifting that covenant. 877 01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:44,160 What are we putting? 878 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,480 Just the covenant number one. 879 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,720 We're just lifting the one about the two attorneys. 880 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:48,860 That's the one. 881 01:18:48,860 --> 01:18:56,400 So the other two were all J4 uses would be applicable as long as they kept the professional office. 882 01:18:56,660 --> 01:18:56,980 No, no. 883 01:18:57,220 --> 01:19:01,180 Well, actually we are proposing new covenants be put in place just a supervisor. 884 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,700 I think at this time it might be appropriate for me to read them for the board. 885 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,460 I would. 886 01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:05,660 Thanks. 887 01:19:06,020 --> 01:19:06,540 Okay. 888 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,420 The two covenants that will remain or the architecture show remain residential and appearance. 889 01:19:12,820 --> 01:19:15,480 And no new buildings will be constructed on the premises. 890 01:19:15,820 --> 01:19:17,060 That's already on there. 891 01:19:17,060 --> 01:19:22,820 they're going to remain. In addition, we are adding no outdoor storage or overnight 892 01:19:22,820 --> 01:19:26,000 parking of vehicles, shall we permit it on the subject parcel? 893 01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:28,720 So, I can't be useful landscaping business in the back. 894 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,800 They can't put things to vehicles, yes, outside. 895 01:19:32,580 --> 01:19:38,100 And permitted uses shall be limited to professional, administrative, financial, and business 896 01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:45,860 offices, including the ordering of cemetery monuments, but shall not include undertaking establishments. 897 01:19:45,860 --> 01:19:48,240 okay. That would be the proposed governance. 898 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,220 And the applicant is aware of the revised 899 01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:54,180 confidence? I believe so. Mr. Wooso? 900 01:19:54,220 --> 01:19:56,300 Mr. Wooso? Mr. Wooso. Mr. Wooso. 901 01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:56,680 Mr. Wooso. Mr. Wooso? Mr. Warton? Mr. Hooseo? 902 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:56,900 Mr. Yubun. Mr. Yubun? 903 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,500 Mr. Warton? Yes. 904 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,100 Mr. Supervisor, an Member of the Board for the Record. 905 01:20:01,180 --> 01:20:03,720 My name is Eric Rooseo, with a law firm at Van Bruntje, 906 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,640 so you can also vote. 907 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,900 Office is a 140-main street, save-a. 908 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,380 We do represent the applicant. 909 01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,760 43 Montau-Keyway lc at three-tuddle point form road in these 910 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:18,460 richest, the property as you're aware is 43 Montau Highway, the managing member is Edward 911 01:20:18,460 --> 01:20:18,900 DeGotta. 912 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:24,980 He's on the property as of this December for two years, December 23rd to be exact, and 913 01:20:24,980 --> 01:20:29,480 he is aware of the release that we're applying for, and we've had prized some of the information 914 01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:33,500 that's just been forwarded by the town attorney in the planning division to you and 915 01:20:33,500 --> 01:20:34,020 the public. 916 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,440 And we're prepared to go forward here with your advice, Governor. 917 01:20:39,940 --> 01:20:40,320 Yes. 918 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:46,160 And the other point is the covenant that was on the property, truly was on enforceable based 919 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:52,040 on the code in terms of the restrictions boarded on a little bit of legality question. 920 01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:57,420 And the second part is there are CEOs for the structures that are on the premises, however, 921 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:03,340 the prior property owner, after they got the change of zone in 1989, never converted or filed 922 01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:08,300 a change of use to go from residents, which is what was there, to the office that used that 923 01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:11,100 was portedly sold to our client for. 924 01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:13,140 So I assume a filing will be forthcoming. 925 01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:15,840 There will be a filing, we've discussed with planning 926 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,120 that we would need to file a change of use application, 927 01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:20,160 and then we proceed from there. 928 01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:23,060 I have nothing further. 929 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,620 And we did submit all of this. 930 01:21:24,620 --> 01:21:26,180 Any questions or members of the board? 931 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,760 I have a question to you, and just a statement. 932 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,380 Chase for allows under A is administrative financial business 933 01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:34,260 professional office. 934 01:21:34,540 --> 01:21:35,500 That will continue to be allowed. 935 01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:36,180 Is that correct, Jim? 936 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:37,200 That's correct. 937 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:41,400 But our gallery bank, take care of facility, exhibit hole, and under taking the establishment, 938 01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:45,640 the applicant will cover it in against any of those other, for not being permitted. 939 01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:52,420 And then that covenant would also cover specially permitted uses in the code, whether it's the 940 01:21:52,420 --> 01:21:53,460 town border or the planning border. 941 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:53,920 My correct. 942 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:54,420 That's correct. 943 01:21:54,940 --> 01:21:55,040 Okay. 944 01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,280 The second question is for the town attorney, the covenant, which is odd to me. 945 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,160 I don't know the genesis of it, that can only be two attorneys. 946 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,740 Is that legally enforceable if challenged? 947 01:22:05,740 --> 01:22:32,520 I think Mr. Russo and I have discussed this, you cannot regulate use of a premises, you regulate the zoning of a premises, you can establish uses by a code, but to say two attorneys versus one attorney versus three attorneys, it's on very much on the edge of regulating the business rather than the property, and that's my problem with that covenant. 948 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:45,600 Okay, that's understandable. The last question. If they're selling cemetery monuments, why is that not retail? Obviously headstones are not think you come in and you find your name like a license plate in a gift card store. 949 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:54,060 Those have to be made especially for the person when that person dies. Why is that not considered retail under the code? 950 01:22:54,100 --> 01:23:01,440 Under a code in a definition of a retail sales establishment, you actually have to physically leave the premises worth the product. 951 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,200 without that, it's not considered retail sales. 952 01:23:06,820 --> 01:23:10,080 So you are going to a facility, a retail store, 953 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,680 you're purchasing a product and you're leaving with that product. 954 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,460 That's for the definition of retail sales in our town code. 955 01:23:16,900 --> 01:23:19,940 In addition, if you were going to an insurance office, 956 01:23:20,460 --> 01:23:22,440 you'd be going to an insurance office, 957 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,540 having them print out or look at a policy you're paying for, 958 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,660 but the policy is coming to you in the mail. 959 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:28,960 I could read the definition. 960 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,200 I get, I'm just going to ask, asking the question for my application, the board's application, 961 01:23:33,460 --> 01:23:36,200 and probably something somebody else was thinking of in the audience. 962 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:38,660 Okay, thank you. 963 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,380 Other questions? 964 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,460 Did we know all the questions are the speakers on this platform? 965 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:43,380 Yes. 966 01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:46,330 We have four speakers. 967 01:23:48,970 --> 01:23:56,770 Thomas, Stenixen, Mary Davis, Jason Burwah, and Jim Pleasant, and that order. 968 01:24:13,420 --> 01:24:16,780 I'm sorry, but if you don't get through it, no, he's in Tony. 969 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:24,380 So why do they thought they get their five minutes, they're attorneys, and I would just 970 01:24:24,380 --> 01:24:25,220 fight for it. 971 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,900 I understand that, but I would like to just do them all together and swear them. 972 01:24:30,060 --> 01:24:31,720 Victor, please, then are you coming up? 973 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,040 Okay, I just said I want to square everybody in the next 974 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,020 this morning. 975 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,840 This is good too. 976 01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:43,200 Yeah, he's in prison. 977 01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:44,340 Yeah, she's in prison. 978 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,420 Jim, you're in attorney at law, right? 979 01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:48,100 There you go. 980 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,840 That's the only one person. 981 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,420 And why do I always square him in? 982 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,480 I don't know. 983 01:24:53,740 --> 01:24:54,680 I didn't know that. 984 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,380 He's a very courteous gentleman that would not want it. 985 01:24:58,380 --> 01:25:00,600 Sir, you know, raise your eye hand. 986 01:25:00,740 --> 01:25:03,140 And do you swear to tell the truth that the whole truth 987 01:25:03,140 --> 01:25:03,980 I will be glad. 988 01:25:04,780 --> 01:25:05,580 I will be glad. 989 01:25:05,580 --> 01:25:07,940 So, what we are going to do is to start with Mr. Sennigson. 990 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,000 Good evening. 991 01:25:09,260 --> 01:25:09,900 I know the property. 992 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,300 I remember, the supervisor of Maine and members of the town board. 993 01:25:12,660 --> 01:25:14,060 My name is Thomas Sinnichar. 994 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:14,900 Thomas Sinnichar. 995 01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:17,620 I am an attorney and prior owner of the property. 996 01:25:18,380 --> 01:25:22,540 I am here tonight because I think it is very important that the town board be advised 997 01:25:22,540 --> 01:25:25,440 of the history of the zoning petition of the subject property. 998 01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:28,760 I purchased the property in the mid-80s at the time. 999 01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:31,300 My primary office was in Midtown Manhattan. 1000 01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:33,740 and it continues for you street, as well as my residents. 1001 01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:36,940 I plan to use the building as a satellite office 1002 01:25:36,940 --> 01:25:38,520 and place my wife and I to stay 1003 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,480 and we visit her family. 1004 01:25:40,060 --> 01:25:42,220 Because for I could do that on the weekends when I came out, 1005 01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:43,940 I had a thousand of it back at my car, 1006 01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:46,140 and I really was kind of difficult to represent people 1007 01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:47,360 in the back of your car. 1008 01:25:48,020 --> 01:25:50,540 Friends, you know, friends from home, growing up. 1009 01:25:50,740 --> 01:25:52,180 When the office became busier, 1010 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,640 I filed a petition for change of zone from A1 residents 1011 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,000 to JQ General Business. 1012 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,840 I went through a lengthy, two-year process. 1013 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:06,400 And when I finally appeared before the town board, they were not inclined to grant a J2 application, 1014 01:26:07,220 --> 01:26:10,220 but would said they would consider a J4 for the premises. 1015 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:16,300 At that point in time, I requested to amend the petition to proceed J4, but they said no, 1016 01:26:16,580 --> 01:26:18,320 I had to start all over again. 1017 01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:24,720 Thereafter, I submitted a second petition for a change of zone this time to J4. 1018 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,160 office use, the other lengthy two-year process, and when it appeared before the town board, 1019 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:35,120 they were still reluctant for general business use of the property. They were only granted 1020 01:26:36,460 --> 01:26:42,280 J4 with a restricted covenant and restriction that said basically law officer number one to 1021 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:47,880 attorneys. They were not inclined to for general business use on a busy corner and reducing 1022 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,380 their residential appearance of the community. 1023 01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,160 I probably should not have agreed to such 1024 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,480 If you're one language, one at a time, I had been through two petitions in four years when 1025 01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:02,280 I really had enough to want to move forward regarding the subject of application. 1026 01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:07,560 If the governance and restrictions are modified by operation of law in essence, it should 1027 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,420 be referred back to the Reset A1 Residence. 1028 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:17,020 An applicant can't remove governance and restrictions and gain general business use without 1029 01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:19,540 a formal change of zone process. 1030 01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:22,080 If that was the case that I would have done many years ago, 1031 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,280 finally, is the issue of the 1032 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:32,200 here at use and occupancy of the premises. Upon information and belief, the applicant's 1033 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,760 tenant is currently operating a D-2 channel versus monument company, and just because 1034 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,440 you can't have the monument out, doesn't mean it's not retail. It's subject would be an 1035 01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:45,900 earner. You can certainly work out with an earner and the monument memorial company, 1036 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,580 sells things you can work out with. You can't say, you're not retail, just because they 1037 01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:52,040 have a product. 1038 01:27:56,020 --> 01:28:00,280 There are signs and a daily employee of the property. In the rear of the 1039 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:06,740 barn, a pure storage of commercial trucks and trailers, which I believe requires L1 zoning 1040 01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:12,500 and I've been informed tonight that they don't allow that item. My question is, how can 1041 01:28:12,500 --> 01:28:20,060 an applicant seek relief when they are in current violation of the town code? In the law, this 1042 01:28:20,060 --> 01:28:24,840 This is referred to as, don't come to court with unclean hands. 1043 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,520 For the record, my brother, Lee Sinichon, owns a monument company down the street. 1044 01:28:31,180 --> 01:28:34,320 Competition is fine, but I'm not going to buy a way out of the town code. 1045 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,960 In conclusion, I believe that the petition for the relief of modification of these restrictive 1046 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,340 covenants should be denied. 1047 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:48,920 And the current, the current illegal use and occupancy of the premises should be stopped. 1048 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,980 Thank you very much. 1049 01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:56,950 Mr. Davis, you can begin. 1050 01:28:57,550 --> 01:28:58,270 Thank you. 1051 01:28:58,350 --> 01:29:00,290 Could you be Mr. Supervisor and town board members? 1052 01:29:00,510 --> 01:29:02,510 My name is Larry Davis and I reside in the workplace. 1053 01:29:03,050 --> 01:29:05,710 I'm here tonight representing Thomas Simpson and Rodney Dickson. 1054 01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:10,130 Mr. Dickson is the owner of a parcel, one door down to the east of the subject premises. 1055 01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:16,610 Mr. Dickson applied for a change of zone to the premises in 1992 from A1 residential to J4. 1056 01:29:16,810 --> 01:29:20,330 That application was denied by the then existing town board. 1057 01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:28,650 The townboard reasoned that the rezoning would result in a significant intensification of land use and would allow a significant increase in the pervious surfaces, 1058 01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:37,190 sewage generation and traffic trip generating above the present zoning. Additionally, potential impacts include loss of open space and natural vegetation, 1059 01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:45,010 and an alteration of neighborhood character afforded the community. The present application is not far different than Mr. Dickson on Mr. Simpson. 1060 01:29:45,010 --> 01:29:50,310 A history of the approval of the site from A1 to J4 showed that the town board overwrote 1061 01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:52,710 the recommendations of the Suffolk County Planning Commission. 1062 01:29:53,330 --> 01:29:56,470 The county voted to disapprove the application for the following reasons. 1063 01:29:56,850 --> 01:29:59,970 Number one, it constitutes the unwarranted further perpetuation. 1064 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,340 Now, of strict business, zoning along Montau Highway, county road 80. It would tend to establish a precedent 1065 01:30:06,340 --> 01:30:12,120 for further such downsonings along county road 80, adversely affecting with safety and traffic, carrying 1066 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,660 capacity of set facility. Number three, there are ample land zone for business purposes 1067 01:30:16,660 --> 01:30:22,200 in the local, along county road 80. Number four, contrafiends recent town board initiatives to 1068 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,260 up zone and diminish and diminish business zoning in nearby areas as part of the comprehensive 1069 01:30:27,260 --> 01:30:32,440 of plan and update, and number five, it is a consistent with the 1987 land use plan for 1070 01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:37,040 the town of Brookhaven and 1982 development plan for the Mauritius area, which designated 1071 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,260 this area for open space, single-family residents' purposes. 1072 01:30:40,980 --> 01:30:44,220 This application to amend the coveting should be denied. 1073 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,620 The applicant has been used in the property and violation of count code and the covenants 1074 01:30:48,620 --> 01:30:50,480 which are presently enforced and affect. 1075 01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:54,760 There is current advertising in place promoting a business which presently cannot operate 1076 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:59,380 From this location due to the covenants, there are signs on the property indicating a new 1077 01:30:59,380 --> 01:31:04,300 business is coming. In fact, there are two blue signs stating coming soon for key memorials. 1078 01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:08,840 The barn located on the back of the property has been renovated without town permits. A 1079 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:13,340 second door has been added to the rear of the building without permits. An employee of 1080 01:31:13,340 --> 01:31:17,260 key memorials has been in the main building at least three days a week for at least six 1081 01:31:17,260 --> 01:31:22,400 months. There are landscaping trucks park overnight and a large metal storage container that 1082 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:27,340 that's located from months behind the barn. This application is before you while the applicant 1083 01:31:27,340 --> 01:31:31,920 completely disregards the laws of this town. And quite certain that there is not a sign 1084 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:37,520 permit in place for these signs or even an attempt to install a sign that we blend in the historic 1085 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,320 district of Santa Meritches. Instead, the applicant has these two blue signs on the property 1086 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:47,240 and operating without a permit before this board has even heard this application. 1087 01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:52,340 This is mere 1088 01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:55,980 approval, a match of the Deputy Assembly of Peruvia's permitted to conduct his business 1089 01:31:55,980 --> 01:31:56,980 with the proper zoning. 1090 01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,880 The lifting of covenant should never be taken lightly. 1091 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:05,120 There were many reasons that the prior town board required these covenants, and that decision 1092 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,100 should be respected by this present board. 1093 01:32:07,480 --> 01:32:11,780 An action by this board to lift the covenants will erode the decisions of our prior town boards 1094 01:32:11,780 --> 01:32:16,580 and disregard the decision that made to down up to ZET down zone this property. 1095 01:32:16,940 --> 01:32:20,300 That board was very specific as to why these covenants should be in place. 1096 01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:24,920 The prior owners, including Mr. Thomas cynics, send it here to these covenants the entire time 1097 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,220 they own the property and the new owners should comply as well. 1098 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,000 Should the board choose to lift the covenants then the property would revert, but should 1099 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,120 revert back to the deprizone of A1? 1100 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:38,180 This application is not one of the situations that war and a change in covenant. 1101 01:32:38,660 --> 01:32:40,400 The present covenant is not egregious. 1102 01:32:40,820 --> 01:32:42,480 It does not violate federal law. 1103 01:32:42,740 --> 01:32:44,680 Nor does it shock the conscience of the community. 1104 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,520 The applicant purchased the property with full knowledge that the covenants existed. 1105 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:53,300 The covenants were identified in a tidal report and the applicant chose to choose to purchase 1106 01:32:53,300 --> 01:32:57,920 the property, subject to these covenants, a business decision that was made by him. 1107 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:03,180 There should not be a reward for violating town law. In fact, town enforcement should have 1108 01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:07,560 been at the site issuing summonses that are answerable in district court. The prior owners 1109 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:12,200 have here to the law in my client's expect nothing less from the present owners. Accordingly, 1110 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,400 we respectfully request the application of the item. Thank you. 1111 01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,560 Larry, I have a question. 1112 01:33:20,060 --> 01:33:23,700 The parcel you refer to to the West. 1113 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,620 Is that the parcel you would show to me either a couple of days ago? 1114 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,380 That's the property next to Kurt Weiss. 1115 01:33:31,060 --> 01:33:31,660 Yes, it is. 1116 01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:33,140 The House of its own day one? 1117 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:36,500 All right. 1118 01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:37,740 I'll let Eric Russel come back. 1119 01:33:37,820 --> 01:33:41,260 My question is, I think, of more for more for him. 1120 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,580 And I will say, for the record, I found out. 1121 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:51,480 for the purposes of this application, if the town did rank tickets, as I understand, on this 1122 01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:57,320 property, for the landscaping use, and the container, whatever was stored back there, 1123 01:33:57,540 --> 01:34:01,260 and I'm going to believe by our staff that that is now gone. 1124 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:02,700 And off the property. 1125 01:34:02,740 --> 01:34:07,860 No, it's not gone, but it's they've agreed to remove it and we're working toward that settlement 1126 01:34:07,860 --> 01:34:11,460 and you're right, the violations were written and they are in court. 1127 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,240 Correct. 1128 01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:15,040 May I ask a question? 1129 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,520 It's a sense. 1130 01:34:16,780 --> 01:34:16,940 It's your. 1131 01:34:16,940 --> 01:34:17,700 Thanks to see you, Tom. 1132 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,280 What was the boring use for when you owned the property? 1133 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:22,300 Storage. 1134 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:23,080 Storage? 1135 01:34:24,220 --> 01:34:24,960 You know, anything. 1136 01:34:25,180 --> 01:34:25,620 It really was. 1137 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,880 It was an old, you know, barely staying a barn. 1138 01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:28,680 So it wasn't really. 1139 01:34:29,900 --> 01:34:31,180 Usually much or anything else. 1140 01:34:31,660 --> 01:34:32,640 Just, you know, basic storage. 1141 01:34:33,180 --> 01:34:34,520 Storage for your business? 1142 01:34:35,180 --> 01:34:35,760 What's that? 1143 01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:37,200 Storage for your business? 1144 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,860 I don't think that was in there. 1145 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,020 Was it really anything in there? 1146 01:34:40,020 --> 01:34:42,960 But there was a title company in the building also, correct? 1147 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,660 All the title company, absolute abstract was part of my love practice. 1148 01:34:48,940 --> 01:34:50,500 I mean, asked the secretaries of the building. 1149 01:34:50,540 --> 01:34:50,780 Okay. 1150 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,580 And, well, I know. 1151 01:34:52,980 --> 01:34:56,060 But the back building was used for what type of storage? 1152 01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:01,540 I mean, different times it was over 25 years period. 1153 01:35:01,820 --> 01:35:02,820 It was a big of many times. 1154 01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:07,560 Sometimes a guy would ask me to put a boat in there for a couple months or something like that. 1155 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:17,080 nothing, you know, was on occasion. I did a favor. Okay, thank you. Mr. Burwah, you can 1156 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:23,140 begin. Good evening ladies and gentlemen of the board. I come to you as a resident from 1157 01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:29,420 15th Bill, you have in you in Center Ruches. My general concern is basically the traffic 1158 01:35:29,420 --> 01:35:35,800 there. We've got a lot of businesses on that curb already. I can see right out of the side 1159 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:41,940 my house and it's a daily struggle for drivers to get in and out off of Bellevue, I've heard 1160 01:35:41,940 --> 01:35:48,560 the sirens going off many, many times for accidents that occur on that curve and to 1161 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:54,360 add landscape trucks and a retail center that's going to draw a business whether it's carrying 1162 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,980 it out to their car, not they're still pulling into a parking lot and pulling back out 1163 01:35:58,980 --> 01:36:04,660 onto Montau Highway and a curve generally is the hardest visual for any driver to pull that 1164 01:36:04,660 --> 01:36:09,780 out until, and when you have MAC trucks and cars moving at high rates of speed, I mean, we're 1165 01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:14,800 just adding another collision, so my concern is safety, ultimately, because I have a family 1166 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,760 and a lot of friends that live in the area, and I'd hate to hear a story about somebody getting 1167 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,260 to an accident right there. That's all. 1168 01:36:21,420 --> 01:36:23,680 But it's just what I could purpose is of the record. 1169 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:30,820 The snap location is not for a landscape company, or a retail center, which is probably white. 1170 01:36:30,820 --> 01:36:37,520 The stretch of road, I travel every day, which is probably the reason in why the town board 1171 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:43,160 I believe acted correctly, and not giving the other parcel the next-to-curt-wise, the change 1172 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:49,280 of zone in the past to be the J2 or J4 and kept today one, because you're right, that stretch 1173 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:53,720 of road where there is the turn. A1 is the appropriate zoning. We're currently going through 1174 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:59,820 a rezoning of the entire area, and as I understand, we're keeping that area zoned. A1, 1175 01:36:59,820 --> 01:37:06,040 But here, though, this is not for a landscape company cannot exist on this property zoned 1176 01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:12,020 J4 at all, and a or a retail center cannot exist, and that's not what I just want 1177 01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:13,880 to make sure, over the public is aware. 1178 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:14,860 That's not what we do. 1179 01:37:14,860 --> 01:37:15,660 We do ask a couple of months. 1180 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:20,720 There has been landscape trucks, don't trucks, with trailers, strapped to them pulling in and 1181 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,940 out of there, and I've watched them remodel the barn, and I mean, I saw it all. 1182 01:37:24,980 --> 01:37:28,360 I didn't know what was in place and how legal anything was. 1183 01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,260 My general concern was, wow, new company, new businesses. 1184 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,280 This is just adding more trouble to the road. 1185 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,940 And now, especially since they read the calendar's pond, 1186 01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:38,560 it's an attractive site. 1187 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,380 It's going to draw a total of people. 1188 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:41,300 It looks beautiful. 1189 01:37:41,980 --> 01:37:42,560 I love it. 1190 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,300 But I don't know if there's on Bellevue. 1191 01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:45,380 I can give you with the dress. 1192 01:37:45,780 --> 01:37:46,520 But I did a good job. 1193 01:37:48,460 --> 01:37:51,340 So I mean, there's going to be more traffic either way, 1194 01:37:51,620 --> 01:37:54,400 adding a business, I think, is just detrimental to the area. 1195 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:54,820 OK. 1196 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:56,980 There's only other side of town. 1197 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,080 Yeah, we are writing tickets against that offense. 1198 01:38:01,700 --> 01:38:08,840 These people will appear in district court, and at the court, there will be an adjudication 1199 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,060 and probably they'll have to evade that problem. 1200 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,700 They will have to evade that problem. 1201 01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:21,140 They're occupying it with any legal use that is not conforming to the governance currently 1202 01:38:21,140 --> 01:38:22,060 in place. 1203 01:38:22,060 --> 01:38:31,760 The current suggestion is to change the covenant to allow a monument, business or law 1204 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:39,560 or office, or other professional offices period, no landscaping company, no storage company. 1205 01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:46,540 Nothing of that nature would be allowed, correctly, if I'm wrong, and that, on that, what would 1206 01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:48,160 be allowed would be being proposed. 1207 01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:59,720 So we are, you know, we are concerned about this property and it's usage and this 1208 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:07,700 aesthetics and made a good point about clean hands and that's something that I'll ask Mr. 1209 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:15,640 Russo to address when he comes up here about that because I'm interested but we also have 1210 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,800 to Gleason, who represents the East for Richish Propheoners. 1211 01:39:20,140 --> 01:39:23,560 So, let me just be self-taxed and if we're done, go ahead, Mr. Gleason. 1212 01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:31,340 Jim Gleason, for the East Merchish property owned association in the seedling, for the Merchish 1213 01:39:31,340 --> 01:39:33,520 Bay Civic Association as well. 1214 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,220 A letter was submitted, which I believe you all should have received several days ago 1215 01:39:38,220 --> 01:39:44,500 with respect to this application, and just now I handed up an aerial that was marked up 1216 01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:48,060 of interesting points, which hopefully you also received by my 1217 01:39:48,060 --> 01:39:49,560 difficulty in getting it to you. 1218 01:39:51,140 --> 01:39:56,260 The position that was taken by both civics has been that this is a 1219 01:39:56,260 --> 01:40:02,500 particularly sensitive area, it's character is really 1220 01:40:02,500 --> 01:40:06,380 view-colic, it has in it a variety of things that need to be protected. 1221 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:11,240 And as a result, any expansion of the use beyond the one that is 1222 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:18,560 proposed that is to say an office for a cemetery monument company would not necessarily work 1223 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,040 out of well at all. 1224 01:40:20,860 --> 01:40:26,780 In looking at this, we've looked at the stretch of highway about a third of a mile between 1225 01:40:26,780 --> 01:40:31,280 that bend and the road that is mentioned and Kailer's pond, and there are a number of things 1226 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:36,700 in there as you can see from the aerial that was submitted today that deserved protection 1227 01:40:36,700 --> 01:40:44,620 so that the character is maintained on the area you can see an S with a circle that's where the subject property is. 1228 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:51,700 One is to catch a man built in revolutionary times and used for various purposes since the town historic landmark. 1229 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,680 It is open to the public. 1230 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:55,320 Excuse me? 1231 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:56,320 1698. 1232 01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:57,360 Thank you. 1233 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:08,900 Number two on the aerial is five acres of county land preserved purchased with taxpayer money. 1234 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,080 The same amount of the resolution to acquire that. 1235 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:12,740 Yes, you did. 1236 01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:21,120 The number three is the cemetery that has been mentioned and the entrance to that cemetery is right on the Montau Highway, 1237 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,260 and is particularly picturesque right next to this property. 1238 01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:36,680 The number four is 263 acres, the Terrible River County Park, which I also, which I also 1239 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,880 purchased in on the 80-9, as a County Legislative. 1240 01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:47,020 And then, number five across the street, the Havens Home Stead, which states back to 1750, 1241 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:52,160 additions were put on it over a variety of years, but many years ago, they're also historic. 1242 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:57,540 it's also open to the public and it's another town historic landmark. Then you've got 1243 01:41:57,540 --> 01:42:01,480 Kailer's pond, it's being improved, as been mentioned. You've got the Terrell River 1244 01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:06,100 and it didn't mention this in the letter, but number nine, which is on the east side of 1245 01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:13,120 the Terrell River, is with former duck farm purchased by the towns as open space. So in this 1246 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:17,760 area, third of a mile, you have a lot that has been protected and the town and the county 1247 01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:22,580 have already recognized that it should be protected by spending taxpayer money on it. 1248 01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:27,800 So what should happen, the area of this area should maintain its character, it should 1249 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:28,800 not lose it. 1250 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,240 Some of the covenants that are there help to do that. 1251 01:42:33,180 --> 01:42:38,860 So use of the offices, as they have been used in the past, just as offices, is something that 1252 01:42:38,860 --> 01:42:43,380 we're willing to do, go with, and if it's a cemetery, monument company, instead of a law 1253 01:42:43,380 --> 01:42:44,980 office, that's okay. 1254 01:42:44,980 --> 01:42:51,360 So, we don't mind modifying that covenant, so is to amend what type of office may be in there. 1255 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:57,260 There's been some discussion, and I just learned when town attorney read the proposed 1256 01:42:57,260 --> 01:43:06,700 covenants, that it would be possible for the business to be there and allow the ordering 1257 01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:13,660 of cemetery monuments. That was a new idea to me. The thought of it being an office, that's 1258 01:43:13,660 --> 01:43:20,460 we've been discussing, but when they originally submitted the application, they said that 1259 01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:28,580 they wanted to use it for sales of cemetery monuments. And the planning department wrote 1260 01:43:28,580 --> 01:43:34,200 back to them and said, you can't do that. That's J2. This is J4, not allowed. So they amended 1261 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:43,000 the application. And they took out sales of cemetery monuments. But what's the difference 1262 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:49,940 between ordering cemetery monuments and the sales of cemetery monuments. That's an interesting 1263 01:43:49,940 --> 01:43:54,520 question, and I'm not sure we have the time, and I have the time, and 30 seconds, the 1264 01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:55,480 parts of out. 1265 01:44:02,260 --> 01:44:04,520 You just wasted them, you just wasted them. 1266 01:44:05,860 --> 01:44:11,900 Can't speak that fast. It needs to be worked out. It has to be clear what can and can't 1267 01:44:11,900 --> 01:44:17,380 be done if there are cemetery monuments outside the building that's outdoor storage, not allowed. 1268 01:44:18,020 --> 01:44:22,900 If people can, in fact, if there were cemetery monuments there, people could come in and 1269 01:44:22,900 --> 01:44:23,920 walk out with them. 1270 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,740 They may need to wheelbarrow, but they could do it. 1271 01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:29,780 So, they're not going to be any cemetery monuments there. 1272 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:31,120 Is that what I'm going to understand? 1273 01:44:31,740 --> 01:44:37,000 I think this needs to be made considerably more specific and clear, so there is not 1274 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,420 a lot of confusion in the future. 1275 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:39,060 Thank you. 1276 01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:50,870 I don't think I use my five minutes, just one sentence. 1277 01:44:51,810 --> 01:44:52,210 Go ahead. 1278 01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:52,650 I go ahead. 1279 01:44:53,210 --> 01:44:54,110 You have that. 1280 01:44:54,250 --> 01:44:54,770 Thank you. 1281 01:44:55,230 --> 01:44:56,970 I think what is that one sentence? 1282 01:44:57,250 --> 01:44:58,430 It's looking at this whole project. 1283 01:44:58,630 --> 01:44:59,970 I think it's clear that I'm... 1284 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,500 Animate company can be no way to consider appropriate for J4 professional use, and the argument 1285 01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:13,040 that it's heavy is ridiculous. It's a retail business, appropriate for J2, where the applicant 1286 01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:18,160 should do. If he wants this business, or wants this relief from the confidence, the proper 1287 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:24,260 procedure would be for to seek his J2 zoning change, and at that time incorporate the removal 1288 01:45:24,260 --> 01:45:29,740 of the governance. Not to try to circumvent the zoning process of the category of payment by 1289 01:45:29,740 --> 01:45:35,440 and so in monuments, you know, 18 ability was built in 18 hundreds. It's not appropriate. 1290 01:45:36,260 --> 01:45:40,520 Okay, but you're the card next speaker. Mary Ann Johnson, thank you. 1291 01:45:40,820 --> 01:45:45,100 Well, Mary Ann comes up by the question for that. Is it, is it because you order your monument? 1292 01:45:45,340 --> 01:45:49,940 That monument is there by delivered to whatever cemetery it is. 1293 01:45:50,060 --> 01:45:52,440 Correct, the monuments would not be. 1294 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:53,860 You can't sell a monument. 1295 01:45:54,700 --> 01:46:00,660 Unfortunately, I've had to order a monument so they show you pictures a sample they have like a little piece of it 1296 01:46:00,660 --> 01:46:02,040 Like for instance 1297 01:46:02,540 --> 01:46:07,620 There's a piece of the granite. There's the color of the granite. It's the monuments are shown in books 1298 01:46:07,620 --> 01:46:11,440 So you can't walk out if I walked in and I wanted a pre-order mine monument 1299 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,500 I think that granite here lies Daniel J. Pannico 1300 01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:23,240 1978 to whenever greatest personal life. I can't walk out of there with a monument. Will you point in 1978 you're very young 1301 01:46:25,620 --> 01:46:28,300 I can't walk out with a monument, you say. 1302 01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:31,340 I think they would cover it to that. 1303 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:32,620 If that would clear up. 1304 01:46:32,620 --> 01:46:35,480 I think my comments will go to the heart of your discussion. 1305 01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:38,140 Would that be my headstone? 1306 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:39,660 I don't know. 1307 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,180 Do you want me to have it engraved? 1308 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:42,940 I'm afraid of what you might say. 1309 01:46:44,440 --> 01:46:45,300 I was a Jew. 1310 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,600 Realistically, I think we're... 1311 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,480 When the square who ends? 1312 01:46:50,340 --> 01:46:53,680 to switch and tell us what the whole truth and nothing but the truth to have to go. 1313 01:46:53,780 --> 01:46:54,500 Oh, Wes. 1314 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,040 And now you can begin. 1315 01:46:57,700 --> 01:47:03,240 I think we're listening to what is loosely called a legal fiction. 1316 01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:05,940 I've got a shared it, coupons. 1317 01:47:06,660 --> 01:47:10,980 I couldn't carry it out, but it was retail sales. 1318 01:47:11,740 --> 01:47:13,060 You know, come on. 1319 01:47:13,700 --> 01:47:16,300 The idea that you can't carry out a monument. 1320 01:47:16,300 --> 01:47:20,020 Anybody been to well would have a new in West Babylon? 1321 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:30,160 Yeah, tons of monument companies with monuments lined up because people can't buy what they can't see. 1322 01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,920 It's not a book, it's not how monuments are sold. 1323 01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:37,380 They're sold by having displays in front of the building. 1324 01:47:38,060 --> 01:47:44,020 The most inappropriate use for this property in this area that I could possibly imagine. 1325 01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:54,320 Beyond that, we have an applicant who came before a town board and was denied this very 1326 01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:59,320 use, this kind of a change of use to J4. 1327 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:07,280 That troubles me, that troubles me a lot, because this town, when it has refused to change 1328 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:12,620 the zone for one applicant and comes back and changes it at a later date, has been held 1329 01:48:12,620 --> 01:48:18,600 lineable for those costs and the loss of revenue to that applicant based on the use that 1330 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:24,440 he was denied, that I'm asking if that is the case, that's not the case, Marianne. 1331 01:48:25,220 --> 01:48:27,860 It's this is an application for a relief of a covenant. 1332 01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:29,380 The property is J4. 1333 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,080 It is J4 now. 1334 01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:37,180 Now, talking about another one next to Christ, which is on the very, very severe occurrence 1335 01:48:37,180 --> 01:48:37,640 that I'm going to say. 1336 01:48:37,700 --> 01:48:40,460 Well, the one thing that I want, this one is J4. 1337 01:48:40,460 --> 01:48:46,040 The one thing that I'm also concerned about in terms of the quality of that area is the 1338 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:52,940 amount of taxpayer money that he's been spent to keep it as a bucolic area. Retail creeps. 1339 01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:59,700 What you will allow here under covenants, someone else comes in, wants to same kind of covenants, 1340 01:48:59,940 --> 01:49:07,580 same kind of an office space. I've never, I have awarded monuments never once from a book. 1341 01:49:07,580 --> 01:49:14,520 I saw what I wanted out front of the monument building and when he found out what the 1342 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:19,420 course was, how much it was going to cost and how long it was going to take to have 1343 01:49:19,420 --> 01:49:26,100 an install. I don't, I don't walk out with a car when I buy it, but it's still retail. 1344 01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:34,360 At the end? Well you never walk out with a monument at the end. You go visit the grave, 1345 01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,760 that's where it is. They install it, you know? 1346 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,740 So we're talking about it. You know what I mean? 1347 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,900 So realistically, you even need to revisit the definition of retail sales in 1348 01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:51,920 Berkhaven, or actually not consider this application in its present form because the 1349 01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:58,580 one thing I didn't hear the town attorney say was that there would be no monuments out in front. 1350 01:49:59,020 --> 01:50:02,600 There will be no monuments out in front. I didn't hear it in the covenant. 1351 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:09,700 Well, we can, if that was, it was taken out of the application when they showed it and we told them they couldn't have it. 1352 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,360 And there wouldn't be monuments out front and we can address that. 1353 01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,980 But I would like Mr. Russo to come back and we can't, I still have some intelligence. 1354 01:50:18,420 --> 01:50:19,460 I think you don't mind. 1355 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:27,900 So realistically, the covenant that are revisited by boards that are long come after you guys. 1356 01:50:28,260 --> 01:50:31,860 Don't know what your discussions were, what your understanding were. 1357 01:50:31,860 --> 01:50:37,720 They only know what the Covenant says, black and white in print, and nine out of ten times 1358 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,480 you can drive a map truck through some of these Covenants. 1359 01:50:41,020 --> 01:50:46,980 What I want to see very clearly is that we don't have monuments out in front of an office 1360 01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:47,420 building. 1361 01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:54,700 And frankly, I'm not so sure that, you know, I think the two civics that really represent 1362 01:50:54,700 --> 01:51:01,520 that area have a vested interest in seeing it remain in its bucolic historic function. 1363 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:07,920 and the taxpayers of this town and the county have spent a lot of money and I think the benefit 1364 01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:13,440 to the applicant is insufficient to outweigh the detriment to the community and I think 1365 01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:16,100 I will respectfully ask that you not lift the covenant. 1366 01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:17,520 Thank you. 1367 01:51:18,940 --> 01:51:18,960 Okay. 1368 01:51:19,660 --> 01:51:20,600 So, carries the next one. 1369 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:21,600 Do you sweat as hell of two? 1370 01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:22,040 No, two. 1371 01:51:22,180 --> 01:51:22,400 Nothing. 1372 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:26,690 We can begin. 1373 01:51:28,130 --> 01:51:28,250 Hi. 1374 01:51:28,350 --> 01:51:28,490 Thank you. 1375 01:51:28,770 --> 01:51:29,830 Thank you. 1376 01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:37,930 I, oh, I was my father, son of a gentleman in the company, and I just wanted to clarify in the aspects to retail business with the monuments. 1377 01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:42,630 If you came into my money in the company, you could walk out with certain items. 1378 01:51:43,010 --> 01:51:49,230 For instance, at most of the cemetery, you're allowed to have lighted angels, statues, or places to grave. 1379 01:51:49,630 --> 01:51:51,870 There's also cemetery vases that can be purchased. 1380 01:51:52,370 --> 01:51:56,390 If you weren't a temporary marker, for your loved one before you even got a headstone, 1381 01:51:56,390 --> 01:52:03,170 that is something that I can give to you in-house when you come into see me and then I can present it with to you when you leave. 1382 01:52:03,470 --> 01:52:07,370 So to me that would be considered retail, which I thought we were doing at that location. 1383 01:52:08,590 --> 01:52:13,950 Also with the previous ladies basically stated, in that whole area that is there, there is no retail. 1384 01:52:14,350 --> 01:52:16,590 I think that it's cut that way for a reason. 1385 01:52:17,190 --> 01:52:22,470 I think that makes our town look the way it does and feel the way it does and also people want to stay in our town. 1386 01:52:23,110 --> 01:52:29,790 So I just want to clarify that you can walk out of my apartment company with something so which for me would be considered retail 1387 01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:37,270 I'm happy that there won't be any outdoor storage there because I think that, you know, that's something that should not be right there 1388 01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:41,550 So sometimes even if people don't want to see that when they're going to see their loved ones at that time 1389 01:52:41,550 --> 01:52:43,650 But I hope I clarify that for you 1390 01:52:43,650 --> 01:52:44,470 Thank you 1391 01:52:47,550 --> 01:52:56,610 And that is the difference in what Kerry Sinney said in that what her and her father 1392 01:52:56,610 --> 01:53:02,070 we have is a undertaking establishment and this would be just an office they could not 1393 01:53:02,070 --> 01:53:07,790 sell any of the things here that were described under the law could not sell any of the 1394 01:53:07,790 --> 01:53:10,410 things that were just described by Kerry is that correct? 1395 01:53:11,390 --> 01:53:11,910 Well, 1396 01:53:15,250 --> 01:53:20,130 we have a definition here, to my knowledge it was only monuments that we're going to be here, 1397 01:53:20,510 --> 01:53:25,470 that they would covenant, no undertaking establishment, so that would mean they're not going to sell 1398 01:53:25,470 --> 01:53:28,210 arms and things of that nature. 1399 01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:34,870 So, they've, in J4, undertaking establishments are actually allowed. 1400 01:53:35,110 --> 01:53:37,590 I know that they're going to covenant against that, I'm like correct. 1401 01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:45,930 So, if we're saying that monument use is an accessory used to an undertaking establishment, 1402 01:53:48,150 --> 01:53:49,710 then it's here. 1403 01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:57,590 So, the undertaking establishment they're covering not to do, but they would like to sell 1404 01:53:58,410 --> 01:54:04,590 and the exact language that we were proposing and which we can modify pursuant to 1405 01:54:04,590 --> 01:54:12,990 in Johnson's comments are, including the order ring ordering of cemetery monuments. 1406 01:54:14,530 --> 01:54:25,910 And however, no monuments shall be displayed out there, I will say, in the exterior of the 1407 01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:26,250 property. 1408 01:54:26,250 --> 01:54:32,850 Or the code calls it outdoor retail display that's what we did in the time of the code. 1409 01:54:33,070 --> 01:54:34,690 There's outdoor retail display. 1410 01:54:38,530 --> 01:54:44,010 And I believe that was discussed with the applicant and they were agreeable to that. 1411 01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:44,950 Correct, Mr. Rusha? 1412 01:54:45,550 --> 01:54:47,910 Yes, but I'd like to point out a couple of things. 1413 01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:50,150 And I don't want to believe we're the hearing. 1414 01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:54,470 However, I am not a fan of revisionist history, 1415 01:54:54,470 --> 01:55:00,530 But Mr. Senecason, who was kind enough to sit here and say, he bought the building, he used it as a law office. 1416 01:55:00,770 --> 01:55:03,530 He stored his stuff there. He had a title company there. 1417 01:55:03,850 --> 01:55:09,610 Except the container that's on the property was Mr. Senecason's, along with another container. 1418 01:55:09,850 --> 01:55:14,830 And when he sold it to my client, he removed one and said, I'm going to leave the other one there for you. 1419 01:55:15,250 --> 01:55:17,210 I'm not able to remove it. 1420 01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:23,430 In those containers that were there for over eight years, there were his files. 1421 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:26,210 and other documents from his law office. 1422 01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:31,710 However, the other part that we seem to be forgetting is the barn that was there, and since 1423 01:55:31,710 --> 01:55:34,610 there are at least one, two, three of you from Santa Maritches. 1424 01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:38,950 My client's telling me when he was looking at the property, he had had both builders in the 1425 01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:44,430 barn, he had had carpenters in the barn, he had had landscapers in the barn, they were 1426 01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:51,430 trucks parked on the property, and they were fire extinguish fire extinguish individual 1427 01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:53,450 who made fire extinguishes in the barn. 1428 01:55:53,710 --> 01:55:55,630 So there were various uses that were used here 1429 01:55:55,630 --> 01:56:00,190 in this bucolic setting that he is purporting to say, 1430 01:56:00,650 --> 01:56:04,250 you don't have to, I want to enforce my covenant. 1431 01:56:04,990 --> 01:56:07,410 What I find also interesting is Mr. Davis, 1432 01:56:07,970 --> 01:56:10,170 a very well-practiced, disowning attorney, 1433 01:56:10,330 --> 01:56:13,030 has been for the sport to relieve covenants as well. 1434 01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:16,390 So he understands the purpose, he understands the nature 1435 01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:17,530 and why we're here. 1436 01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:19,910 We're here because the covenant that was there 1437 01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:23,850 was uninforcible, as the town attorney, and I have discussed. 1438 01:56:24,570 --> 01:56:27,090 The other part is, yes, there was a violation issue. 1439 01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:30,030 It's returnable in the District Court on December 3rd. 1440 01:56:30,230 --> 01:56:33,530 This application, since its filing, which goes back 1441 01:56:33,530 --> 01:56:37,990 to March of last year, has taken a year when he first came 1442 01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:40,490 into my office last November, a year this time, 1443 01:56:40,930 --> 01:56:43,370 to get before the board, a simple release of Covenant 1444 01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:44,870 has taken a year to get a hearing. 1445 01:56:45,710 --> 01:56:49,050 And in this particular case, he's prepared to go to prison. 1446 01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:50,990 Why do you think it took a year? 1447 01:56:51,310 --> 01:56:51,530 Why? 1448 01:56:52,190 --> 01:56:54,210 I have, well, part of it. 1449 01:56:54,910 --> 01:56:56,170 We had to revise it. 1450 01:56:56,450 --> 01:56:59,170 Because partly it also had to do with the fact that there 1451 01:56:59,170 --> 01:57:01,530 was questions about figuring out what the sources were. 1452 01:57:01,970 --> 01:57:04,110 And then I will also point out to you that I had 1453 01:57:04,110 --> 01:57:05,670 surgically from the 14th of September. 1454 01:57:06,130 --> 01:57:09,650 And I'm just about walking again as a result of a right 1455 01:57:09,650 --> 01:57:11,030 left knee replacement. 1456 01:57:11,190 --> 01:57:12,970 But it's taken a year to get to this hearing. 1457 01:57:13,790 --> 01:57:14,830 It's a simple hearing. 1458 01:57:14,830 --> 01:57:19,490 It's not, it's not one that's like controversial, yes. 1459 01:57:19,850 --> 01:57:22,390 Mary and Johnston talking about looking at 1460 01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:23,810 covenants that need to be revised. 1461 01:57:24,690 --> 01:57:25,950 Yes, tell them where it's this board. 1462 01:57:26,030 --> 01:57:27,130 I was deputy supervisor. 1463 01:57:27,370 --> 01:57:29,810 There were times when we put covenants on property 1464 01:57:29,810 --> 01:57:31,470 that perhaps weren't done. 1465 01:57:31,870 --> 01:57:33,870 And you can look at the minutes with the best 1466 01:57:33,870 --> 01:57:36,810 of fourth or an illegal action that went with it. 1467 01:57:37,010 --> 01:57:40,390 So in this case, you're trying to fix a zoning error. 1468 01:57:40,990 --> 01:57:42,730 Or if you want to put new covenants on it, 1469 01:57:42,730 --> 01:57:48,230 we're willing to consider it, and in terms of the use, it's planned to be and continue to be 1470 01:57:48,230 --> 01:57:49,330 a residential use. 1471 01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:54,610 And so, at this particular point in time, I would also like the point after you that when 1472 01:57:54,610 --> 01:58:02,010 there's discussion by R&D, the property that was denied, because there was a letter of November 1473 01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:07,730 16 from R&D, the investment company, and I talked about how their application was denied. 1474 01:58:07,730 --> 01:58:24,810 But I did a search in the governments and restrictions on that particular property, and what I found out was, after that was denied, in 1995, a change of zone was granted, and the change of zone that was granted, and I have copies of it, was from anyone to Jay to business. 1475 01:58:24,810 --> 01:58:26,370 for this particular problem. 1476 01:58:26,530 --> 01:58:27,330 No, no, for Roddick's. 1477 01:58:27,330 --> 01:58:28,010 For Roddick's. 1478 01:58:28,610 --> 01:58:29,590 I've been checking. 1479 01:58:30,110 --> 01:58:32,630 Here in R&D has nothing to do in this area. 1480 01:58:33,010 --> 01:58:36,330 I just have the money that you denied a jay for there. 1481 01:58:36,890 --> 01:58:37,930 And it did get Marion died. 1482 01:58:37,930 --> 01:58:39,750 But that would have no bearing on this case. 1483 01:58:39,810 --> 01:58:42,270 Well, it does the board should know the truth. 1484 01:58:42,730 --> 01:58:44,250 The purposes of the truth go ahead. 1485 01:58:44,330 --> 01:58:46,870 The purpose of the truth, and I'll give you up the two 1486 01:58:46,870 --> 01:58:49,850 Publints and restrictions, is that the adjoining property 1487 01:58:49,850 --> 01:58:53,250 that Mr. Dixon is complaining about, 1488 01:58:54,250 --> 01:58:55,110 I'm sorry. 1489 01:58:55,410 --> 01:58:56,310 Not in a way, not in a fun. 1490 01:58:57,290 --> 01:58:57,510 Next slide. 1491 01:58:57,710 --> 01:59:02,570 This letter that he wrote to this board in the town clerk that was filed as of Monday. 1492 01:59:03,210 --> 01:59:05,190 Indicates I was denied a change of zone. 1493 01:59:05,690 --> 01:59:06,650 We went to the records. 1494 01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:08,390 We wanted to verify that. 1495 01:59:08,690 --> 01:59:11,030 What we found was it was denied then. 1496 01:59:11,290 --> 01:59:13,370 But two years later, you got a change of zone for me. 1497 01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:14,910 One to Jane too for the property. 1498 01:59:15,470 --> 01:59:18,390 And with all due respect, the present town attorney was council. 1499 01:59:18,950 --> 01:59:20,850 Then and has the covenants here. 1500 01:59:21,050 --> 01:59:22,070 So I'll pass them up. 1501 01:59:22,070 --> 01:59:26,430 So, the bottom line is, I'm not looking for the penalized device. 1502 01:59:26,550 --> 01:59:28,490 I'm not looking to penalize anybody. 1503 01:59:28,730 --> 01:59:33,070 What we're trying to do is take a business, an office use, 1504 01:59:33,390 --> 01:59:36,370 and make it a viable office use in a two-story building, 1505 01:59:36,570 --> 01:59:39,090 with all of the commitments and suggestions that we're being put forward. 1506 01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:41,510 I'll test these up exactly. 1507 01:59:42,030 --> 01:59:44,670 Are you sure you're correct that it went to J2 and not J? 1508 01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:50,310 They may have went to J. I couldn't verify the tax lot or the meeting bounds, 1509 01:59:51,030 --> 01:59:54,250 because I don't have the technology here. 1510 01:59:54,910 --> 01:59:57,470 It has the same tax law and it does say that. 1511 01:59:58,310 --> 01:59:59,790 And it's the same tax law in the public. 1512 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,680 Restrictions, unless I'm misreading it and I'm looking at it against the R&D investment company letter of November 16. 1513 02:00:09,860 --> 02:00:18,540 And the bottom line is the R&D investment company property, which is 200, maybe number of the top. It's on the negative. 1514 02:00:19,700 --> 02:00:21,200 There it is. 200, 1515 02:00:25,250 --> 02:00:29,990 we could pull it up. Those are the cognits and it says it's J2. 1516 02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:37,130 So, again, I'm not looking to ruin the Bucharest setting of Senate Marriages, we're trying 1517 02:00:37,130 --> 02:00:43,230 to take an unforceful covenant making it go away and have an office use in the facility. 1518 02:00:44,570 --> 02:00:50,110 The building violation that was issued was for the fact that he put a new roof, he put 1519 02:00:50,110 --> 02:00:54,750 siding and resurfaced the garage door. 1520 02:00:55,110 --> 02:00:59,270 That's still to be debated with the building department and with the district with the 1521 02:00:59,270 --> 02:01:04,550 the attorney, because building permits for new roof and cedar shake and resurfacing of 1522 02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:09,250 garage door. Last time I looked did not require a building permit. If you made structural 1523 02:01:09,250 --> 02:01:14,810 changes that did make a require a building permit. There was also, there was also a change 1524 02:01:14,810 --> 02:01:20,550 required building permit, cosmetic changes, but you know. And in addition to that, there was 1525 02:01:20,550 --> 02:01:26,370 a summons issue, because there was use other than a law office, and that's what the two summons 1526 02:01:26,370 --> 02:01:28,370 are that we're issued. And we're addressing that. 1527 02:01:29,550 --> 02:01:31,470 I cannot explain a little bit about the dictionary. 1528 02:01:31,610 --> 02:01:35,050 You want to take it in further. Further further, further, in some of the truth, it's 1529 02:01:35,050 --> 02:01:36,470 own Jay. That's Jay too. 1530 02:01:36,710 --> 02:01:38,370 I'm not sure if I remember correctly. 1531 02:01:38,870 --> 02:01:43,350 It's been a while. I was probably reviewing it back then in 1994. 1532 02:01:44,410 --> 02:01:48,470 I believe at the public hearing that time it was changed from a Jay to 1533 02:01:48,470 --> 02:01:52,510 application to a Jay business application, the board granted it as Jay 1534 02:01:52,510 --> 02:01:59,590 and the town clerks letter from that time does say a want to jade business and does appear on 1535 02:01:59,590 --> 02:02:01,070 the maps today as jade business. 1536 02:02:01,610 --> 02:02:03,070 But the governments reflect jade, too. 1537 02:02:04,130 --> 02:02:06,770 Dan, are you going to close this and hold a position here? 1538 02:02:06,770 --> 02:02:09,090 I want to close this and hold it. 1539 02:02:09,850 --> 02:02:11,090 I'm not going to make a decision tonight. 1540 02:02:11,190 --> 02:02:15,950 I'm going to work on the governance to make the governance more specific in the event that 1541 02:02:15,950 --> 02:02:18,050 this board does pass it. 1542 02:02:18,130 --> 02:02:21,350 I'd like to see the district court action closed out. 1543 02:02:21,350 --> 02:02:27,130 And by the time our next town board meeting comes about, I believe, when you back before it. 1544 02:02:27,130 --> 02:02:29,310 That may be the case, but I'll close it for third. 1545 02:02:29,690 --> 02:02:31,310 And place it on the decision calendar. 1546 02:02:33,330 --> 02:02:33,570 Okay. 1547 02:02:33,570 --> 02:02:33,650 Motion. 1548 02:02:38,740 --> 02:02:39,140 Thank you. 1549 02:02:39,740 --> 02:02:40,540 I'm sorry. 1550 02:02:44,420 --> 02:02:45,300 I'm sorry. 1551 02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:45,560 I'm sorry. 1552 02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:45,740 I'm sorry. 1553 02:02:45,940 --> 02:02:46,080 Thank you. 1554 02:02:48,060 --> 02:02:48,940 Thank you. 1555 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:59,540 Okay, we're on to our next and last public hearing, public hearing number five. 1556 02:03:00,460 --> 02:03:01,480 Number four. 1557 02:03:01,700 --> 02:03:02,420 Number four. 1558 02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:11,580 Public hearing number four is to consider ten boards on motion for our CR-D-S5-2A for a changes zone. 1559 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:18,280 J-business to J-business on property located in Brookhaven, Hamlet, New York. 1560 02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:26,960 Legal notices for public hearings are published now less than 10 days, no more than 20 days prior to public hearing and one of the legal time news papers are office has. 1561 02:03:27,220 --> 02:03:30,500 We see if the signed academic day would have publication from the news paper. 1562 02:03:31,140 --> 02:03:38,820 Secure compliance was covered by the binding statement and the firm's findings statement for the comments of our conservation and management plan. 1563 02:03:38,820 --> 02:03:45,920 We are in the receipt of a letter from the South of County Planning Commission, returning it to be a matter for a local determination. 1564 02:03:46,780 --> 02:03:51,780 Town clerk's office was required to notify the owners of the subject property by sort of, I'd mailed, 1565 02:03:52,420 --> 02:03:56,600 and the certified knowingly seats have been made part of the town clerk's official file. 1566 02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:04,200 The letter from dated October 20, 2015 from South of County Planning, 1567 02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:14,260 the MSMAT pursuant to the requirements of Section A14-14-14, A14-14, to A14-25 with Suffolk 1568 02:04:14,260 --> 02:04:18,800 and Administrative Code, the above reference application, which has been submitted to the 1569 02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:23,580 Suffolk and Economic Planning Commission, is considered to be a metaphorical determination 1570 02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:29,740 as there is no apparent significant, any wider, inter-community impacted, decision-of-local 1571 02:04:29,740 --> 02:04:35,100 determination, should not be construed as either an approval or disapproval signed very 1572 02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:38,160 truly yours, Andrew P. Freyling, Chief Planner. 1573 02:04:39,860 --> 02:04:39,920 Okay. 1574 02:04:41,740 --> 02:04:48,420 With that, we'll have Joe Sinsana from our planning development to simply review this property. 1575 02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:49,400 Thank you. 1576 02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:50,880 I'm Supervisor Mums of the Board. 1577 02:04:51,220 --> 02:04:54,660 This property is part of the Carmen's River Conservation Management Plan. 1578 02:04:54,660 --> 02:04:58,500 It was one of the properties proposed for rezoning within that plan. 1579 02:04:58,500 --> 02:05:07,920 The property is 0.9 acres in the size located on the south east corner of Yappank Avenue in the first block road in the Hamlet of Brookhaven. 1580 02:05:08,340 --> 02:05:11,420 Sight is currently vacant and undisturbed. 1581 02:05:11,980 --> 02:05:18,540 It is adjacent to other single family residential land uses, a long Yappank Avenue on the east side. 1582 02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:24,140 On the west side of Yappank Avenue is town property, which is part of our waste management facility. 1583 02:05:25,300 --> 02:05:31,780 The site is vacant, fortunately. Currently zone J2 Business, the Lange Plan recommended 1584 02:05:31,780 --> 02:05:38,700 that this site be resowned. The proposed zoning at the time is A2, the property owner, 1585 02:05:38,860 --> 02:05:45,440 and the town work together, and agreed to J Business for this particular property. So the proposed 1586 02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:50,220 J Business, we would consider that to be in conformance with the recommendations of the Lange's 1587 02:05:50,220 --> 02:05:57,380 land and would be also in conformance with our comprehensive plan as well. 1588 02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:02,040 Joe, could you just list what you said or allowable in J? 1589 02:06:02,300 --> 02:06:06,280 In J, you have personal service shops, office, 1590 02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,260 other non-retail commercial uses with 1591 02:06:11,260 --> 02:06:16,400 the residential architecture, so it must look like a residence when you drive by and put 1592 02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:16,540 no more than a second. 1593 02:06:18,780 --> 02:06:20,380 Non-retele commercial payments. 1594 02:06:24,030 --> 02:06:27,110 It's surrounded by it's, so that's only what's surrounded as A2. 1595 02:06:27,390 --> 02:06:31,070 That's correct, that is South and East is A2. 1596 02:06:31,570 --> 02:06:34,490 Those are single family residences along the Pancavindu. 1597 02:06:34,690 --> 02:06:35,830 I'll go back to the aerial. 1598 02:06:37,130 --> 02:06:39,950 And you can see right in this area. 1599 02:06:40,310 --> 02:06:43,910 And what contributing area, what contributing zones, that in? 1600 02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:50,930 This is in the 10 to 20 areas of a little bit outside of the two to five, which we focused on in the 1601 02:06:50,930 --> 02:06:57,610 in the Conjurer plan, but it still was in the area where we up zoned all of the residential properties. 1602 02:06:58,770 --> 02:06:59,830 Okay, thank you. 1603 02:07:03,050 --> 02:07:07,350 Okay, we have speakers on this. There's a code to call speakers. 1604 02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:09,270 I'm that carrying Johnston. 1605 02:07:09,550 --> 02:07:11,230 Who has already been sworn in? 1606 02:07:11,950 --> 02:07:13,170 It's not an adjourning. 1607 02:07:13,710 --> 02:07:14,570 What's going on? 1608 02:07:14,950 --> 02:07:16,330 I'm just walking out of the body. 1609 02:07:16,530 --> 02:07:17,170 You're not going to be living up here. 1610 02:07:17,210 --> 02:07:17,570 You're not even a copy. 1611 02:07:17,570 --> 02:07:18,270 We're giving you time, Mary. 1612 02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:21,500 What's that? 1613 02:07:21,540 --> 02:07:22,000 That's not working. 1614 02:07:22,660 --> 02:07:22,800 On the speaking. 1615 02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:23,740 That's the only speaking, yeah? 1616 02:07:23,740 --> 02:07:24,580 Yeah, yes. 1617 02:07:25,340 --> 02:07:26,620 When I'm Eddie, I'll go to the roast. 1618 02:07:26,740 --> 02:07:27,620 So there you go. 1619 02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:29,980 You can, your time is begun. 1620 02:07:30,340 --> 02:07:31,560 My time is begun? 1621 02:07:32,140 --> 02:07:32,400 OK. 1622 02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:33,660 Mary and Johnston. 1623 02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:38,960 I have an interest in this property, not financially or in any other 1624 02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:45,560 away, but one of the impedices was a project that came forward on this prior to the comments 1625 02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:46,220 or ever. 1626 02:07:46,540 --> 02:07:50,560 If you remember, I think it was corporate center, or some such thing. 1627 02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:55,500 And it was going to be two stories that was going to be offices and stuff like that. 1628 02:07:56,040 --> 02:08:00,260 But this is inconsistent with the intent and the stated purpose. 1629 02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:06,880 And it would be outside the character of the general area in which you've up-sewn residences 1630 02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:09,620 and residential areas to A2, 1631 02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:14,220 subjecting them to the restrictions of being in the comments 1632 02:08:14,220 --> 02:08:16,180 or of a watershed management area. 1633 02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:20,080 So I have some very serious concerns. 1634 02:08:20,220 --> 02:08:23,580 There's only one retail type establishment 1635 02:08:23,580 --> 02:08:25,620 that's along the APNK Avenue. 1636 02:08:26,700 --> 02:08:29,600 It's essentially a small little strip mall, 1637 02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:31,760 just north of this site. 1638 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:42,120 But personal service, you know, facilities, hairdressers, tattoo parlors, tanning salons. 1639 02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:43,080 Really? 1640 02:08:43,860 --> 02:08:48,280 Is that what we want in the comments of a watershed management preservation areas? 1641 02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:49,760 I don't think so. 1642 02:08:50,660 --> 02:08:56,400 When you are empowered with the power of police power to upsell things, to preserve things, 1643 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,880 you need to actually achieve the purpose. 1644 02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:05,000 A lot of people were very upset that their land was put into the core, or that they were 1645 02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:10,840 put into the CGA, but we did the right thing, and we need to do the right thing here too. 1646 02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:18,400 A personal service of facility located on that site would be anathema to the intent of the 1647 02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:24,780 commons river, preservation and management study, and it is just outside the two to five years 1648 02:09:24,780 --> 02:09:30,680 just outside, and personal service facilities, they have 1649 02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:35,080 cesspools, and stuff like this, there's no sewer in here. 1650 02:09:35,620 --> 02:09:37,860 There's barely any public water in the area. 1651 02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:46,040 So realistically, you allow this to come forward, and what happens is, again, 1652 02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:52,180 retail creep, you know, somebody else comes in and says, well, you did it for that guy, 1653 02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:58,780 I need to do it for me, and we have to be consistent when we state something, an abca was very 1654 02:09:58,780 --> 02:10:00,120 consistent about this. 1655 02:10:00,420 --> 02:10:05,300 When you call something a preservation plan, it needs to preserve, not development. 1656 02:10:05,820 --> 02:10:13,160 This is a wooded parcel, it's ideal for preservation, and not for changing to a personal service 1657 02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:14,780 contract in the J-zone. 1658 02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:21,380 Even J-2 is very, it's not J is less restrictive, it's transition zone, but transition 1659 02:10:21,380 --> 02:10:27,720 from what? The river is on one side and was in the landfill or on the other side, and the county 1660 02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:32,840 center is to the north. We're not transitioning anything. What you're doing is essentially 1661 02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:38,260 allowing a personal service facility to be built in the middle of the watershed management plan. 1662 02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:41,140 I say no. Thank you. 1663 02:10:43,860 --> 02:10:53,490 You know, the speaker is on this, uh, a net, that way is the speaker's right. 1664 02:10:53,490 --> 02:10:54,050 Oh, sorry. 1665 02:10:54,510 --> 02:10:54,910 Yes, Councillor. 1666 02:10:55,350 --> 02:11:03,210 Can you, um, tell me why you're planning is asking for a jazon here? 1667 02:11:03,730 --> 02:11:05,570 Well, the property right now is J2. 1668 02:11:05,710 --> 02:11:08,090 We feel that that's inappropriate for this location. 1669 02:11:08,090 --> 02:11:17,510 And Jay business would be more compatible to the adjacent residential land uses as opposed to the J2. 1670 02:11:17,930 --> 02:11:20,970 Okay, normally now, this is in what I'm sorry, what contributing area of law? 1671 02:11:20,970 --> 02:11:23,110 Just in the 10 to 10. 1672 02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:29,630 Was this in the plan? Was this intended to go to residential? 1673 02:11:29,950 --> 02:11:30,730 It was. 1674 02:11:30,730 --> 02:11:43,450 Yeah, original proposal. You can see this is CR52A. We originally heard this as 502. We adjourned that and met with the property owner and worked out a J Business as opposed to the 1675 02:11:43,450 --> 02:11:43,970 Eight. 1676 02:11:44,350 --> 02:11:45,390 This is a company. 1677 02:11:45,490 --> 02:11:46,050 We've got this. 1678 02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:46,570 Yes. 1679 02:11:46,610 --> 02:11:47,450 With the property owner. 1680 02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:48,810 Point nine acres. 1681 02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:52,610 Point nine. Yes. So you're going to get a very small development. 1682 02:11:53,290 --> 02:11:55,470 It would be essentially a size of a house. 1683 02:11:55,510 --> 02:11:56,470 Size of a house. 1684 02:11:56,750 --> 02:11:58,210 Size of a single family house. 1685 02:11:58,210 --> 02:12:06,690 Yeah, now we're looking at surrounding that is that E2 that I'm looking at so the south is a two and developed with single family homes 1686 02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:14,130 Along the east side of Yapank Avenue. Yeah, I would agree with Mary Ann. I do not think this is appropriate for Jay. So 1687 02:12:14,130 --> 02:12:16,690 I don't know how we want to proceed here 1688 02:12:16,690 --> 02:12:18,870 Why don't you do it 1689 02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:24,270 Well, we do it if the board all feels the same way and Joe. I guess we come back with the 1690 02:12:24,270 --> 02:12:27,530 and let the chips fall in any. 1691 02:12:27,870 --> 02:12:29,030 All right, motion to withdraw. 1692 02:12:30,570 --> 02:12:31,170 Second. 1693 02:12:31,570 --> 02:12:32,530 All those in favor. 1694 02:12:32,970 --> 02:12:33,410 All right. 1695 02:12:33,410 --> 02:12:35,470 Let me just find the correct spot. 1696 02:12:37,870 --> 02:12:40,030 Motion by Councillor Kaffee to withdraw. 1697 02:12:40,490 --> 02:12:41,270 Secondary value. 1698 02:12:44,070 --> 02:12:45,050 All those in favor. 1699 02:12:45,610 --> 02:12:45,930 All right. 1700 02:12:46,150 --> 02:12:46,650 Opposed. 1701 02:12:47,530 --> 02:12:47,930 Okay. 1702 02:12:48,490 --> 02:12:49,330 All the ones in return. 1703 02:12:49,870 --> 02:12:50,190 All right. 1704 02:12:50,910 --> 02:12:52,030 We have set dates. 1705 02:12:52,410 --> 02:12:52,670 Okay. 1706 02:12:52,970 --> 02:12:53,790 Set dates, please. 1707 02:12:54,590 --> 02:13:03,790 I have a motion to set Uniform Traffic Code to be heard on December 17, 2015 and 630M. 1708 02:13:08,060 --> 02:13:08,920 All those in favour? 1709 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:10,820 Opposed? 1710 02:13:11,740 --> 02:13:12,380 That's done. 1711 02:13:13,180 --> 02:13:14,240 And I think that's it then. 1712 02:13:17,180 --> 02:13:17,540 Okay. 1713 02:13:18,540 --> 02:13:18,760 Okay. 1714 02:13:18,940 --> 02:13:20,820 If you know further business motion, do a join. 1715 02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:23,980 All those in favour? 1716 02:13:24,860 --> 02:13:25,660 Stand the join. 1717 02:13:34,510 --> 02:13:34,670 Two.