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appeals for case number 2020-01

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my name is dara spencer and i am the

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chair of the chesapeake beach board

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of appeals tonight's hearing is being

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conducted

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virtually each member of the board is

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participating

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remotely the hearing is being

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live streamed and will be published on

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youtube

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for those persons logged on to this

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meeting

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or uh

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on the call you'll have an opportunity

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to speak ask questions

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and comment for the record

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at the appropriate time i will ask for

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your comments

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so let me take a roll call element of

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the members

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and call this hearing to order

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mr david ferguson are you here

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i'm here miss kelly stewart

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are you here

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mr jody home star are you here

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miss jane ruttke are you here

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yes i am and i would like to

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welcome you jane as the new member

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thank you darth to the board of

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appearance

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okay uh let it be recorded that we have

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a quorum

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also with us sharon hume

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who is the town clerk and secretary to

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the board of appeals

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frederick sussman who is the attorney

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for the board of appeals

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and christopher jacoba

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which is the town planner and zoning

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administrator

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the purpose of this hearing is to

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consent to consider

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two requests from the calvin county

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board of education

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the board of education is proposing to

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develop

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7900 old bayside road in order to

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replace

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beach elementary school with a new

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school building

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the first request is for a special

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exception in order to use the property

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of seventy nine hundred old bayside bill

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for a public school the second request

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is the variance the applicant

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would like to modify the zoning

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ordinances

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maximum height limit so that the new

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school building can exceed the limit of

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35 feet

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we will hear the special exception case

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first only after we've heard all the

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evidence on the special exception

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and any public comment will we take up

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the variance case once we've heard all

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the testimony on

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the variants including public comments

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we will close the hearing and move into

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deliberations

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it is my intention that we decide both

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matters this evening

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before we begin testimony

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i like to ask mr sussman to swear in

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everyone

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who intends to offer comments and

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testify at this

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evening's hearing on either

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the special exception and or the

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variance

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so if you wish to speak to the board

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this evening

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on these matters please prepare now

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to be sworn in

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so if anybody who would like to or

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intend

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to speak to the board tonight would

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raise your right hand

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i will administer the oath

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do you follow solidly swear or affirm

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under the penalties of perjury that the

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testimony

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you are about to give and the responses

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and statements

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you are about to make will be the whole

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truth

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and nothing but the truth and signify

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by saying i do i do

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well the record reflects that many

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people have

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indicated they intend to testify and

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have taken the oath

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thank you madam chair okay

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now i'd like to ask the board secretary

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sharon hume to confirm that this meeting

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was properly notified

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and advertised as required by town code

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yes the pop pro the property was posted

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on july 27th

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uh in three areas on the property um

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advertised in the southern maryland

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newspaper beginning uh

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on the july 24th edition and then ran

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for

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three weeks thereafter uh the adjacent

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property owners were notified by

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certified mail by letter dated july 31st

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okay good these documents will now be uh

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recorded as exhibits

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now let's begin with the application

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before i turn to the town planner for a

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summary

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i'd like mr sussman to take a moment to

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explain

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what special exceptions and variances

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and what criteria we will use to make

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our decisions

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thank you madam chair first we have

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what's known as a special exception is a use that the

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count council has determined is

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appropriate

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and compatible in a particular zoning

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district

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as well as certain criteria are

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satisfied

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in deciding to approve or deny a special

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exception

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the board applies standards that are set

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forth

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in section 290-12-d

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of the zoning ordinance each standard

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must be satisfied and the applicant

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has the burden of proof there are

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six standards which i will read to you

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now

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number one the establishment

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maintenance and operation of the special

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exception

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will not be detrimental to or endanger

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the public health safety or general

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welfare

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number two the special exception

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shall be such that it will be harmonious

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in character

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as well as appropriate in appearance

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and will not be injurious to the use

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and enjoyment of other property in the

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neighborhood

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for the purposes already permitted nor

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they canceled mine what was that i

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thought it was bernie

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i know but i thought it was coming out

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of bernie's throat

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uh can somebody abuse themselves please

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so as i was saying the uh

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the youth will not be injurious to the

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youth and enjoyment of other property in

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the neighborhood

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for the purposes already permitted nor

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substantially diminish

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and impair property values within the

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neighborhood

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three the establishment of the special

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will not impede the normal and orderly

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for the uses permitted in the zoning

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and operation of the special exception

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will not adversely impact the capacity

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and or safety of the town infrastructure

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such as roads water and sewer drainage

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and things of that nature

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fine the special exception shall be such

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that pedestrian and vehicular traffic

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associated with such use

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will not be hazardous to or unduly

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in the neighborhood and finally number

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the establishment maintenance and

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operation

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of the special exception are consistent

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with the town of chesapeake beach

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comprehensive plan

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so those are the six criteria that the

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findings on

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in order to grant a special exception

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now let me turn for a moment to a

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variance is a modification

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to the strict application of the

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dimensional standards

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of the zoning ordinance there are times

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when an applicant

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in the ability to develop land because

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of the lay of the land or

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some other physical condition of these

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plants such as

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shape or topography and cannot meet the

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dimensional standard

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or finds that trying to meet the

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he or she would experience a hardship

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the zoning ordinance provides or allows

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for the

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standard to be modified or varied

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but in order for the board to approve a

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variance an

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applicant must prove and the board must

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that certain standards are met for a

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for a variance there are five standards

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that must be met

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first that the granting of the variants

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will be in harmony with the general

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and intent of the zoning ordinance

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and shall not be injurious to the

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or otherwise detrimental to the public

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number two that the granting of the

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variance

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will not permit the existence within the

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zoning district of any use which is not

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permitted

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that there are special circumstances or

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fully described in the board findings

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applying to the land

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or buildings for which the variance is

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which circumstances or conditions are

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peculiar to the land of buildings

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and do not apply generally to land or

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buildings

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in the neighborhood and that the

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circumstances or conditions

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are such that the strict interpretation

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of the provisions of the zoning chapter

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would deprive the applicant of the

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reasonable use

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of the lander building number four

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that there exists unnecessary hardship

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if the hardship unnecessary hardship

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if the hardship is general that is

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generally by lander buildings of the

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neighborhood relief

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should be properly obtained only by

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legislative action

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by the town council or by court review

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of the attack on the validity of the

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zoning ordinance

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and finally number five and again i

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somebody who uh has their uh

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mic on to please mute

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that the granting of the variance is

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necessary for the reasonable use of the

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land

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or building and that's invariance

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as granted by the board is the minimum

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variance

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that will accomplish the purpose so

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those

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five standards must be found by the

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in order to grab the variance thank you

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we're going to take up the special

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exception

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first so in a moment i will ask mr

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jakubiak

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to summarize the special exception

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requests

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after we have had an opportunity to ask

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chris questions

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i will ask the applicant to introduce

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those members

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who will be offering testimony and to

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present the case

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on the special exception i want to

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repeat

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that i would like to hear the case

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for the special exception first

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once we've heard the applicant's case

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for the special exception

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we will hear from anyone who may wish to

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testify

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on behalf of or in opposition to

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the special exception then i will close

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the testimony on

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the special exception and we'll start

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again but this time

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with the variance after we finish the

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presentation of

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evidence and the public comment on the

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variants

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we will formally begin our deliberate

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deliberations

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and decide each matter if

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there is no objection from the board

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i'd like to ask the town planner staff

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uh be entered into the record as

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an exhibit

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okay mr jacobiak please summarize the

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special

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exception application

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okay thank you um first i'd like to ask

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holly uh who i believe is posting

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tonight's meeting if she could share the

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screen allow me to share the screen

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so i can place an exhibit on

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your monitors

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sure you should be able to share

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uh well right now it says uh host

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disabled

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attendee screen sharing

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okay go ahead

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okay

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can everyone see the aerial photograph

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showing the school and the neighborhood

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yes indeed okay yes

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now especially the members thank you

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the um the application for a special

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exception

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uh is required under the zoning

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ordinance to redevelop

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this property it's currently the home as

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you know

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to beach elementary school which is

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about 65 000 square feet

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of building coverage uh

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it's located at the inner section

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bayside road and bayside road

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at 7 900 bayside and um i wanted to

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point out a couple of features

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that are relevant to tonight's

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discussion first the

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front of the school property along

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bayside road is largely devoted to

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recreational uh

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activities there's tennis courts there's

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a small

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park in a little grove of trees

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it's generally recognized as an open

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space amenity for

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the town i wanted to mention that there

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is a sidewalk

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along bayside road it's a five-foot

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sidewalk it exists today

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has been there for many many years there

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is no sidewalk

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on the east side of bayside road

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and there is no sidewalk south of old

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bayside road

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there is no sidewalk on old bayside road

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either those are existing conditions

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um i also wanted to point out that

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the site is 17 acres in size

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but a major part of the site is

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simply undevelopable or couldn't be

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developed without substantial impact to

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the environment

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this forested area is part of the

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property

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there are steep slopes here and there

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are wetlands

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here's the marsh that um

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characterizes the town and you can see

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the the railway trail

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just north of the site over the marsh

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uh here's e street which is almost at

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the

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just beyond the edge of the property and

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here's the water tower site

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which stands at about 135 foot tall

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um and will remit

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will always remain a prominent feature

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in this

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the uh landscape

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side of the town so i i mentioned the

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sidewalks only to

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indicate to you that they're not very

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adequate just yet

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but the project itself is going to make

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a major contribution

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to improving the situation um the school will be providing a

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sky a sidewalk connection from

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bayside road all the way through the

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frontage of the property

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um and i know that the applicant will

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make

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an extraordinary presentation like he

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did in front of the planning commission

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a couple weeks back

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and he will show you where that sidewalk

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on

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and how it works to separate kids

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from buses and kids from vehicle traffic

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um you might also wonder about how

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kids from south of

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uh enter the school site

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for the time being there is no sidewalk

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here but there is a sidewalk proposed

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as part of the safe routes to school

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project which is a state

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funding program in cooperation with

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towns to develop

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sidewalks uh it's certainly

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our hope when i say that i mean me as

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staff in the planning commission

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that is looking at improving walkability

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in chesapeake beach

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it is our hope that sidewalks will

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eventually be built that will connect

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the neighborhood to the school

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the planning commission thinks it's

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important

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at least have the ability to walk to

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school and

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so that's a part of this project that i

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think these

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the applicants have gone a long way to

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helping us

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realize and you'll see that in a few

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moments

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um there are a number of standards as

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mr sussman mentioned that have to be met

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and it's up to the applicant to prove to

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you that each of those

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standards are met but i'd like

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you to keep in mind that this site has

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been a school

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site since 1953

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and over time it has

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been expanded and morphed into its

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current configuration

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there have been a number of additions to

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it over time

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the current capacity of the school is

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about 471 students and

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over time that the actual enrollment has

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exceeded capacity

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uh and i am not aware of there being any

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significant impacts of that school site

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on adjoining properties or in health or

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safety or public welfare

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these things that our standards ask us

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to look at

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the proposed school will have a capacity

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of uh

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474 or actually i can't remember right

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now i'll have to look

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um to verify that but it's going to be

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roughly 500

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roughly 100 students more um

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and then looking through the staff

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report

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578 578 thank you thank you

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so i i um

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i wanted to mention that however the

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school building itself

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in terms of its footprint on the

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landscape is going to be about ten

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thousand square feet smaller

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um and in part that's a reflection of

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the fact that

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it's difficult to build a new school

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on a site that's constrained

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environmentally

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and keep the students in school while

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you're doing it

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so the proposal will be to maintain

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the existing buildings or building while

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the new school is being built

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and um it's a fact that

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there's not much room

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on this site to do school uh

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that is your traditional suburban

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sprawling school

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and uh in response to those conditions

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uh the

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architecture and engineering team took a

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pretty innovative approach to address

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site conditions and and to minimize the

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impact of

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the new building on the town on streets

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on the neighborhood and

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standards that have to be met um

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so regarding standard one i just want to

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take a quick summary and i know the

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applicant will present

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this information too but many ways on

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divorcing but they will say

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the the use will not be detrimental to

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or endanger the public health or safety

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uh regarding uh standard one as i

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mentioned the school has existed since

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1953

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um and ingress and egress

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have not appeared to create any safety

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concerns the current proposal that

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you'll see tonight

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um addresses a lot of access issues

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and seeks to separate pedestrians from

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vehicles

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um regarding standard two uh the

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special exception will be harmonious in

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character as well as appropriate in

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appearance appearance

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and will not injure the enjoyment of

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property in the neighborhood

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i wanted to mention that the

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illustrations that you have in your

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package

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are designed to indicate that the

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building will use materials and

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architectural styles and motifs

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with local precedent they're drawn from

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chesapeake beach in the

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existing built environment

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and the applicant i'm

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fairly certain will take time to

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demonstrate how their proposed building

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while it will be taller in places than

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the current building

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uh has been designed to fit compatibly

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uh within this residential neighborhood

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regarding standard three the

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establishment of the special exception would not impede the

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normal and orderly development

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of surrounding properties um as you know

556
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the area is largely developed now there

557
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are houses on

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old bayside road and there are houses on

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15th street uh they exist today

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and the school has existed there in a

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harmonious way more or less

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uh for many decades and we don't

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anticipate that

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changing uh with the just a change in

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the configuration of the building in the

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site

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regarding standard four

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the establishment and operation of the

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special exception will not adversely

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impact the capacity and safety of the

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town

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infrastructure uh roads water sewer and

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drainage

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the water and sewer systems are

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more than adequate to serve the the

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school

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um in fact

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while i my my belief is having looked at

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this is that the actual

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usage of water and sewage may be

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at least the water demand will be um

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maybe less than the current school

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because all the fixtures will be modern

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and

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energy or water conservation fixtures

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the impacted aerial roads will be

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not be materially different than

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the current usage buses will have a

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special one-way route

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from an in to antu bay old bay side road

591
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,960
for drop off and pickup

592
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,039
there won't be buses lined up on old

593
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,440
bayside road

594
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,039
there's also going to be a fairly

595
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,360
extensive sidewalk network along the

596
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:22,070
perimeter of the property

597
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,919
number five this special exception will

598
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,760
be such that pedestrian and vehicle

599
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,880
traffic

600
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600
uh would not be hazardous to or unduly

601
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,039
conflict with the existing

602
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:35,200
and anticipated traffic in the

603
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,279
neighborhood

604
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,200
the only reservation i have about this

605
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,400
and this is something that i will

606
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,919
certainly take up with the

607
00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:44,720
um the engineer is that the current

608
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,440
sidewalk

609
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,039
ends um the sidewalk that's proposed by the

610
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,159
applicant

611
00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:56,400
ends about 130 feet or so short of

612
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,640
an intersection so it kind of stops mid

613
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,440
block

614
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,190
just before it gets to

615
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159
e street and because of that that's an

616
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:10,240
issue and um we would like to coordinate with

617
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,880
the

618
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600
school to ensure that that connection

619
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,080
gets

620
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
built in a reasonable time and that's

621
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,159
something that i like to coordinate

622
00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:19,600
between our town engineer

623
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,159
and the the applicant's engineer so that

624
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:24,640
we're all in the same

625
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440
wavelength uh and we're all marching in

626
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,960
the same direction about getting that

627
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,840
sidewall

628
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,720
accomplished in a reasonable time that

629
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,440
sidewalk

630
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,960
all the way to e street is actually part

631
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,440
of the safe safe routes to school

632
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,279
plan that we're working with the state

633
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,679
highway administration on

634
00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:43,679
and the last standard is about the

635
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:45,200
comprehensive plan

636
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320
um and uh

637
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,600
the established maintenance and

638
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,360
operation of this special exception are

639
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,600
consistent with the comprehensive plan

640
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,640
chesapeake beach well the plan calls for

641
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,559
school at this site obviously and hasn't

642
00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,840
departed from that

643
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:07,510
through a number of iterations of the comprehensive plan

644
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,640
social science being connected to it it

645
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,960
shows a park and recreational resource

646
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,600
being made

647
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,360
out of the school so that the school

648
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,720
continues to be a a

649
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,320
park we have a map in the comprehensive

650
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840
plan that shows p for park right on the school property and i'm

651
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
happy to say that the school is actually

652
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,840
showing that very thing and in that

653
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760
respect it's retained that

654
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,679
character that the current school has

655
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:32,240
the tennis courts up in the front

656
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,000
um park and open space and in fact

657
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,440
from my standpoint as a urban planner

658
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840
i've i see that the schools actually

659
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,600
improved upon that

660
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,360
part of the town's character

661
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,159
by actually expanding the accessibility

662
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:51,600
of that open space and

663
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,600
building upon it and i'm certain that

664
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,880
the applicant will

665
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,080
discuss that today the one part that

666
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,760
these schools um i

667
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,080
still need to address and i and as

668
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,039
indicated to me

669
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:06,640
and to the planning commission its

670
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,159
willingness to address

671
00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:11,600
is connecting these school property

672
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000
to the rails or to the fishing creek

673
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760
trail project

674
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,200
um and that's a something of vital importance

675
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440
to the comprehensive planet of town and

676
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,919
i'm very confident that uh we'll take

677
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:27,840
that issue up when this matter goes back

678
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,039
to the planning commission

679
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,120
but i wanted to hire that like that to

680
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,240
you um

681
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,600
and if you have any questions about the

682
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,679
applicant on that specific point

683
00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:37,440
uh you could certainly that can

684
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320
certainly be a discussion tonight

685
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,919
although it does not need to be because

686
00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:44,080
i feel the applicant has

687
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,360
indicated a clear willingness to to

688
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,880
close the window on that issue

689
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,440
and work with us to at least identify

690
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,320
where that

691
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,480
alignment might be in the future or best

692
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960
could be to connect the school property

693
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,840
to the town's fishing creek railway

694
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,360
trail

695
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,320
so in summary on the special exception

696
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,630
oops

697
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:19,430
sorry trying to get there

698
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:26,399
on the special exception request the applicant proposes to completely

699
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:27,279
redevelop

700
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:30,640
this property the building

701
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200
mass that is located here now in the

702
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,080
front

703
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,600
will largely be shifted to this area

704
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,799
where my where i'm circling here um

705
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,559
and much of this area will be devoted to

706
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:45,760
open space and

707
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,679
recreational amenities um

708
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,320
the impact to the natural environment

709
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,320
will be substantially minimized there's

710
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,480
very little incursion into

711
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,919
the critical area buffer or wetlands

712
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:02,320
and to the extent there is any incursion

713
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,840
into the wetlands

714
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,159
the town has already found that those

715
00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,159
con incursions which are quite minimal

716
00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:09,120
actually

717
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,320
amounting to about 10 to 13 000 square

718
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,519
feet

719
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:15,039
are necessary for the project they

720
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,039
actually repair stormwater management

721
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,799
outfall which will improve the

722
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,279
environmental condition

723
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,320
and and these incursions or cutouts of

724
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,640
the

725
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,840
natural area are actually consistent

726
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,559
with the plan

727
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,159
because any tree that is removed will be

728
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:34,799
replaced within the buffer any shrubs or

729
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,159
natural vegetation

730
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:38,799
will be replaced essentially in the same

731
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,480
location where they're removed

732
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
but certainly within the official

733
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,600
critical area buffer

734
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080
and we've been in contact with the

735
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,760
critical area commission now

736
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
already and uh we've gotten guidance

737
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,799
from them

738
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,039
and i feel confident that the final plan

739
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:54,799
will implement the critical area

740
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,080
regulations

741
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:04,480
um just fine uh so that's my summary uh dr spencer

742
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
if there's no objection from the board

743
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,080
i'd like the town

744
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320
plan and staff report entered into the

745
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,360
record

746
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,440
as uh an exhibit

747
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240
hey mr jacobiak please summarize the

748
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
special exception

749
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,159
oh well i i know i i did a

750
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:28,000
well just to summarize um the

751
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
i believe the applicant has met the

752
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
criteria for the special exception

753
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,600
and while my presentation is

754
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440
simply focused on an existing map i

755
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,720
wanted to save

756
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,799
the actual plan documents for the

757
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,399
applicant to present

758
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:45,440
which i'm certain he's ready to do

759
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,600
okay are there any questions from the

760
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,190
board

761
00:32:51,200 --> 00:33:05,110
none here as well no

762
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,679
okay let's hear from the applicant on

763
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:10,000
this

764
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,389
matter

765
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:18,720
there if i may share my screen this is

766
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,679
ron ilkovich

767
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:21,440
sei architects representing calvert

768
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,159
county public schools

769
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:26,080
i'm getting a message that the host has

770
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:37,350
disabled attendee screen sharing

771
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,480
let me know when you see my screen

772
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,600
someone could let me know that'd be

773
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,159
great we see it

774
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:46,880
awesome great uh if it's all right i'd

775
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,159
like to

776
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:49,840
make a presentation of the project in

777
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,760
its entirety and then break down the

778
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,720
special exception

779
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,679
first and the variance but just to keep

780
00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:57,360
the presentation consistent

781
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,279
i'll just i'll run through the entire

782
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,880
project and explain it all because i

783
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840
think there are pieces

784
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,919
of the project and the presentation that

785
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:07,679
address both the special exception and

786
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,119
the variance

787
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,639
uh if that's okay uh as was outlined

788
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,919
ahead of time chris you did a great job

789
00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:17,200
we're here to present the our

790
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,879
preliminary plan for the replacement of

791
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,000
the beach elementary school

792
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,720
on its current site which includes the

793
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:23,359
school

794
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:25,040
as well as site improvements around the

795
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,000
school and associated with the school

796
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,599
and we're here to request that special

797
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,919
exception to allow us to redevelop the

798
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:32,399
site

799
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:34,800
in its current existing use as a

800
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,639
elementary school in the medium density

801
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:37,919
residential zone

802
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:40,320
and after that we're going we're here to

803
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,280
also request

804
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,839
a variance to exceed that 35 height foot

805
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,440
height limitation

806
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,839
before i begin i want to share a little

807
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:48,960
bit about the process

808
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
that we went through to get here you can

809
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,480
see that there are many

810
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,879
attendees to this meeting and many of

811
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:55,839
those represent

812
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:57,680
what we call our stakeholder advisory

813
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,880
group

814
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
the process that we took to get here was

815
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,480
extremely collaborative

816
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,800
it included both a feasibility study as

817
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
well as a schematic design process

818
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,320
and a lot of those members of that

819
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,320
stakeholder group many of whom i

820
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,720
again are on the call today are

821
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,400
dedicated community members

822
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
school administrators teachers parents

823
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,280
people who grew up in the community

824
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
all of whom participated in the process

825
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,280
and i want to really emphasize

826
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,079
that the the results of that process

827
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,359
that you're going to see before you

828
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:27,920
today

829
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,320
are really result of the impact and the

830
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,560
input that those people brought to that

831
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,160
commitment that they made to be part of

832
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,839
that stakeholder advisory group

833
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:37,599
so i can't thank everybody enough for

834
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,640
their involvement in this project

835
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,480
another influence in the project and a

836
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,760
stakeholder group is a town of

837
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,119
chesapeake beach

838
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,200
we took very much into consideration the

839
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,160
2040

840
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
vision plan and that was a guide to our

841
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,920
stakeholder group

842
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,839
and we found amongst the stakeholder

843
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:55,280
group that many of the goals

844
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,520
and the ideals of that 2040 vision were

845
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,200
the same goals and ideals that we had

846
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,880
for our project

847
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,680
the the idea of how we fit into the town plan the scale of the town

848
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,320
the uh the environmental impact and the

849
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,760
importance of the bay

850
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,440
and the environment and the local

851
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,839
ecology that had to both the town

852
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,480
as well as to the school committee uh so

853
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,240
before you have our kind of an analysis of the

854
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,680
existing condition

855
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,599
on the bottom right corner sorry i'll

856
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,680
start at the top right

857
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920
this is one of the most special school

858
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,440
sites i think we've ever had a great

859
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,960
opportunity to work on

860
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,119
uh you can see from the project site

861
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,040
within a quarter mile so a five minute

862
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,680
walk of the waterfront of the chesapeake bay

863
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,240
as well as the fishing creek site

864
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,640
within a half mile walk a 10-minute walk

865
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,240
we cross the bridge into downtown

866
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,839
chesapeake beach so

867
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,400
the idea of the semi-urban environment

868
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,680
the local ecology

869
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,359
those are all pieces that make

870
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:52,880
chesapeake beach elementary school what

871
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,440
it is

872
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,960
and something that we really want to

873
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,800
celebrate in our project

874
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,440
uh also was mentioned the idea of the

875
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,119
interconnectivity of the town and this

876
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,359
is a major emphasis of that 2040 vision

877
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:04,160
as well

878
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,000
so whether it be through pedestrian

879
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,320
pathways or bicycle pathways you can see

880
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,040
how that

881
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960
project site of the chesapeake beach

882
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,640
elementary school is really integral to

883
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960
that interconnection of that town

884
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,560
uh in a different way other than just

885
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,960
driving to everywhere that you go

886
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,359
as we move into the site we see some of

887
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:22,960
the impacts that the

888
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,119
existing conditions give us and although

889
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,720
the site is 17

890
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,200
acres in size as chris mentioned a lot

891
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,359
of that is steep topography

892
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:34,640
we have wetlands uh buffers as well

893
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,200
as forest buffers for that forested area

894
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,640
behind the school

895
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
uh we also have the existing uh zoning

896
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,440
setbacks which we are respecting with

897
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,720
the project

898
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,680
uh sorry environmental buffer offset

899
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,520
setbacks as well as the existing

900
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,320
building

901
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,079
and the existing building will remain in

902
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,320
place while we are

903
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,240
under construction remain in operation

904
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,920
while we're under construction

905
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,760
uh and one thing i may point out here is

906
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,440
that existing building has a large

907
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,119
number of portables and outbuildings

908
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,720
associated with it which really

909
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,760
demonstrates the need for this project

910
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,599
eliminating all those those portable

911
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,040
classrooms and bringing those children into a proper elementary

912
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,079
school environment

913
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,400
is really important to all of us as

914
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,079
community members

915
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,640
all of those things together really give

916
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
us a very limited building area

917
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,240
and you can see that identified within

918
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,320
this bubble on the diagram

919
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,040
before you and for that reason we're

920
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,880
looking for that special exception and

921
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,560
also sharing that as the constraints of

922
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,400
the site and the hardships that the site

923
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,349
uh offered to this project

924
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:42,400
sorry um i mentioned the idea of the

925
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,920
existing school building remaining in

926
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,400
place

927
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,000
as a result we're limited to that

928
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,599
building area to the west of the

929
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,119
existing school building

930
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,960
and we'll be implementing this project

931
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,720
in such a way that it can be built on

932
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:53,440
the site

933
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,880
while the existing building's still in

934
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,640
operation and you can see a phasing diagram here in which the

935
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,560
existing building would be constructed

936
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,560
once it can be constructed and occupied

937
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,480
the new the once the new building is

938
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,920
constructed and occupied sorry the

939
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,440
existing building and portables can be

940
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,800
demolished and removed

941
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,079
and the remainder of the site in the

942
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,400
final phase be completed

943
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,960
intended for school year of 2023.

944
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,720
moving into the site itself i want to

945
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,320
share a little bit about what our

946
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,240
process looked like

947
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,839
knowing where the building really had to

948
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,240
go the only buildable area of the site

949
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,760
we started with this diagram

950
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,440
on the top left it took the idea of how

951
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,280
does the site now relate to the building

952
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,119
and how does the site also relate to the

953
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,000
town in that

954
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
town master plan and with the building

955
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,000
in this location

956
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
we identified areas of program in the

957
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,079
building that would relate directly to

958
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:45,200
program in the site

959
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,599
and in doing so we developed a series of

960
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:48,880
these five zones

961
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,960
across the site of the building there's

962
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,400
obviously the building area

963
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,320
and that's the school building zone to

964
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,000
the west of the school building zone

965
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000
is the service and play areas for the

966
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,240
school kind of a private more private

967
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,720
uh controlled play area for the school

968
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,480
and that relates directly to the gym in

969
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,240
the cafeteria zone that would be in the

970
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:06,960
school

971
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,800
and being this far on back on the site

972
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,119
it's also the ideal place for service

973
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,760
to the building on the front of the site

974
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,680
it would relate to the entry sequence

975
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,119
the secure entry

976
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,280
gathering places outdoor learning areas

977
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,640
in the front of the site

978
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,520
from a staff from a town standpoint a

979
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,960
town planning standpoint

980
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,680
what we wanted to avoid was the idea of

981
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
building a huge parking lot with a

982
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,200
school behind it and presenting that

983
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,240
kind of image

984
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,160
and chris spoke very eloquently about

985
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,599
the idea where the school

986
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,920
we really wanted to envision it or give

987
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,920
it the image of a park

988
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,079
and a school within a park and for that

989
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,480
reason we put the transit zone so the

990
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,319
parking the drop off area and the bus

991
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:48,400
loop behind what we're calling a public

992
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,440
green

993
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760
so the face of the school from bayside

994
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,680
road would would be this public green

995
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,359
and then the school would occur behind

996
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:56,800
that public green

997
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,720
we then went into the implementation of

998
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,000
that idea

999
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,720
how we would zone the building out with the program of the school the

1000
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,400
playgrounds the play areas the play

1001
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,160
fields and the existing tennis court

1002
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,560
to end up with the design that you see

1003
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,119
on the top right of your screen here

1004
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:16,319
and i'll just explain the design from east to west

1005
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,560
from old bayside road we intend to

1006
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,319
provide a park-like setting

1007
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:21,920
again the existing tennis courts will

1008
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,240
remain the the project is designed such

1009
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,440
that a lot of the

1010
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,359
significant trees in this front area

1011
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:28,560
those large trees will

1012
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040
also remain once our project is complete

1013
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,079
and behind that

1014
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,560
a play field uh and a natural trail kind

1015
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,280
of a green

1016
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,240
front to the building so parkland motif

1017
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:38,640
uh

1018
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,480
once we get beyond that into what we're

1019
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,920
calling the transit zone

1020
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,000
the parking lot and the bus loop really

1021
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,599
exists in an area where it's not the

1022
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:46,960
first thing the most prominent thing

1023
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,640
that you would experience from bayside

1024
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,520
road

1025
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,000
likewise on old bayside road we want to

1026
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,160
develop a green buffer zone

1027
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,079
buffering the building and any hard

1028
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,319
surfaces from old bayside road

1029
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:00,560
and create kind of this meandering

1030
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,079
pathway which is our sidewalk

1031
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,920
system connecting the two corners of our

1032
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,520
site here

1033
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,280
moving back to the building the media

1034
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,119
center the administration

1035
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,119
uh all relate to outdoor learning

1036
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:12,960
environments and i want to point out

1037
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,800
that by putting the administration proud

1038
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,800
on the southeast corner of the building

1039
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,359
it provides us an ideal security posture

1040
00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:21,359
this is a little bit higher on the site

1041
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:23,359
and from this position it can surveil

1042
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:24,480
the entire

1043
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,079
front of the site as well as anybody

1044
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:27,680
coming from old bayside road

1045
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,359
so anyone who comes to the building

1046
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:31,359
they'll see you coming before you get to

1047
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:32,319
the front door

1048
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:35,280
that surveillance uh is a very important

1049
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,079
component of the school security system

1050
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:39,839
and then on the back of the site is all

1051
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:42,240
our kids play areas the schools play

1052
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:42,640
field

1053
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
related to the gym the outdoor

1054
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,240
playground areas related to the

1055
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,400
cafeteria on that

1056
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,200
site uh circulation through the site was

1057
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,800
also a critical component

1058
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,880
particularly for safety reasons in our

1059
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,640
design process

1060
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,240
you'll notice that with the sidewalk

1061
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,079
system coming in in all three major

1062
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,920
corners of the building

1063
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,720
a pedestrian student can walk to the

1064
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:05,760
front door

1065
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,839
without ever crossing any piece of

1066
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:10,000
traffic so whether you're you're

1067
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,599
coming into park or you're coming in to

1068
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,160
drop a child off or if the bus

1069
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,240
is coming to drop kids off once you get

1070
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,160
on that site you're able to access the

1071
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,520
front of the school and that front door

1072
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,520
without ever crossing traffic which is a

1073
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,720
significant

1074
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,760
safety uh item that we tried to

1075
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,280
incorporate into the design of the

1076
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,160
school

1077
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,720
likewise the circulation is also

1078
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,400
intended to segregate

1079
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,720
uh vehicle traffic parent drop-off and

1080
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,599
the bus

1081
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,280
loop circulation patterns in their

1082
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,040
entirety so right now those patterns

1083
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,319
overlap so

1084
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:43,520
parents drop off with school buses and they all

1085
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,160
enter interface with one another the

1086
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,640
idea now is that any parent dropping off

1087
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,079
student will do so

1088
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:51,359
essentially where they come into the

1089
00:43:51,359 --> 00:43:53,680
parking lot now only we've developed a

1090
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,000
very

1091
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,680
long neck for those parents to stack

1092
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,599
along and they would drive down this

1093
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:58,000
lane

1094
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,800
and drop off directly on the sidewalk

1095
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,480
again the intent here

1096
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,720
is multiple one is any student who is

1097
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,560
dropped off or picked up by a parent

1098
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,400
does so directly from a sidewalk and

1099
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,160
never crosses traffic to get to that

1100
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,440
safety point

1101
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,920
the other is safety of the vehicles on

1102
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,119
bayside road

1103
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:16,880
creating this long neck means that no

1104
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,720
one is stopped on old

1105
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,200
on stopped on bayside road waiting to

1106
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,240
enter the site

1107
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,079
and potentially be an issue for a car

1108
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,079
cresting the hill coming downhill

1109
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,720
southbound on on bayside road getting

1110
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,800
that traffic off of bayside road is a

1111
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,240
safety measure that we're hoping to

1112
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,440
implement

1113
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,640
for the safety of bayside road

1114
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,359
also keeping buses off of bayside road

1115
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:40,800
and having them enter the site as they

1116
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,839
currently do on

1117
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:44,000
old bayside road helps the movement of

1118
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,160
traffic on bayside road northbound and

1119
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,760
southbound

1120
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400
the bus loop will be reconfigured on the

1121
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,800
site

1122
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
kind of in its current location but now

1123
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,800
a little bit deeper into the site so

1124
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,160
that we can get appropriate turning

1125
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,359
radiuses

1126
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:00,160
radii i apologize and we can now park

1127
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,760
eight buses nose to tail

1128
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400
along the sidewalk directly so kids

1129
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,440
getting off the bus

1130
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,520
again will never cross traffic between

1131
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,319
the bus and walking

1132
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:13,280
a significant safety measure in the safe

1133
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,240
access to the school site

1134
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,800
um looking at that diagram and where

1135
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,839
we're really stuck

1136
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,440
into the site and where the building

1137
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000
really has to be really led to that

1138
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,960
uh difficulty of fitting all of our

1139
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,520
program

1140
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,760
in the footprint permitted and that's

1141
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,920
why we will be asking later this evening

1142
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,720
for that variance to exceed the 35 feet

1143
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,079
but it also offered us some

1144
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:41,040
opportunities which i'll share with you

1145
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,040
one was as we surveyed the existing

1146
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,640
building and we got up on the roof

1147
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,400
we could we recognized that from a

1148
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,319
higher vantage point we could actually

1149
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:49,200
see the bay

1150
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,560
uh particularly in the winter when the

1151
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,160
leaves of the trees are down and

1152
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,000
likewise we could see into the ecology

1153
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,040
to the north

1154
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,200
uh down towards fishing creek and we

1155
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,119
think from a pedagogical standpoint for

1156
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,280
a school the way it's so connected to

1157
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,599
its local environment and ecosystem

1158
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,599
is a great advantage that beach

1159
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:07,040
elementary school will have that no

1160
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,720
other elementary school could even dream

1161
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:09,520
of

1162
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,520
so really reinforcing the opportunity to

1163
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,040
take advantage of those natural

1164
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,319
resources

1165
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:16,160
as a as a learning opportunity for our

1166
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,359
school was very

1167
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:21,599
uh great opportunity that our

1168
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,119
stakeholder advisory group wanted to

1169
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:24,640
take take advantage of

1170
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,160
the other neat thing that came through

1171
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400
that process was the lighthouse

1172
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,000
inspiration and the motif of the

1173
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,640
lighthouse

1174
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,160
and that this school could kind of be

1175
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,480
that beacon on the hill uh once it's

1176
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,680
it once it's finally built uh in our in

1177
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,880
the design

1178
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,040
uh likewise if any one of you have

1179
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,319
walked this site you know that it

1180
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,160
continues to climb in elevation as you

1181
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,880
get from

1182
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,000
east to west on the site we started 62

1183
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,680
feet above sea level and end up

1184
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,079
72 feet above sea level just over the

1185
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,240
small distance of our school

1186
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,599
and as a result our school will be

1187
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,359
designed to kind of step up with the

1188
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:58,160
site

1189
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,079
that's important also from a massing

1190
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,839
standpoint in that we're always trying

1191
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:03,440
to keep the building as down

1192
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,440
in and low in the site as possible not

1193
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,920
to overwhelm uh the adjacent community

1194
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,960
and i'll show you a little bit more

1195
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,000
about that later in our presentation

1196
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,119
uh i know it's not germane to the

1197
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,920
five and six uh topics of the special

1198
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,280
exception of variances

1199
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,559
but i just want to share with you some

1200
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,079
of our goals and some of what we're

1201
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:23,440
trying to accomplish

1202
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,960
and what the the true goal is to

1203
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
address the learning needs of those uh

1204
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,880
570 students at

1205
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,960
beach elementary school not just for

1206
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,319
today but for tomorrow

1207
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,480
so we really talk a lot about what we

1208
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,240
call 21st century learning

1209
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,720
and next generation learning and these

1210
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:41,920
are learning

1211
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,240
theories in which we really try to

1212
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,760
address the learning needs of

1213
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,800
every student so when i went to school

1214
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,000
there was a teacher in the front of the

1215
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
room with a chalkboard and that teacher

1216
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,720
spoke to 35 students all of whom had to

1217
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:56,800
pay attention sit straight and sit up

1218
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,800
straight and watch that teacher we've learned

1219
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,760
over the years that

1220
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,800
students don't really learn best in that atmosphere

1221
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,800
some children learn best by themselves

1222
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,720
some students learn best when they're

1223
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,599
moving around

1224
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:10,960
some students learn best when they're

1225
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520
doing projects some learn in small

1226
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,280
groups and some learn individually and

1227
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,680
some

1228
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,960
learn good well in a long large

1229
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,079
group of 20-some students so for that

1230
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:23,839
the diagrams that you see before you

1231
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:26,000
which are the basis and the the theory

1232
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,960
of the school

1233
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
are really such that the classrooms

1234
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,880
relate to collaboration spaces where

1235
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,559
other activities can occur

1236
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,400
and the collaboration spaces in turn

1237
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,079
relate to small group learning areas

1238
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:37,280
like resource rooms

1239
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,240
where students who need a acoustically

1240
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,240
separated space or a quiet space to

1241
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:42,880
learn

1242
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,880
uh do best in a smaller environment than

1243
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,400
a full-size classroom

1244
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,079
so really the intent here is to take

1245
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:49,920
care of the needs of all chesapeake

1246
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,720
beach students today and into the future

1247
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,800
regardless of their learning needs

1248
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,040
uh but in addition the great opportunity

1249
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,880
for those collaboration spaces and the

1250
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,880
classrooms to have those views to have

1251
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,960
that connection to the ecology

1252
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,440
to have that connection to the town was

1253
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,359
really a great advantage uh that we

1254
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:08,000
couldn't not

1255
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,359
take it take uh into accord into the

1256
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:14,319
design of our project

1257
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:16,720
so with that some of the challenges that

1258
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:17,839
our site offered us

1259
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:20,640
uh here we see a section north south of

1260
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,000
our three-story building

1261
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920
and where it sits on our site and a

1262
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,599
number of things i want to point out

1263
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,839
uh chris did discuss about the four

1264
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:30,240
station as well as the steep topography

1265
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,680
that really pins us in

1266
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,720
to a very small developable area

1267
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,480
so you can see that pretty dramatically

1268
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,920
on the right side here

1269
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,079
on the left on the west side i mean on

1270
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:41,359
the left side of the image

1271
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:43,280
we see old bayside road and what i

1272
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,119
really want to point out is that as

1273
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,760
old bayside road moves from east to west

1274
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,520
you can see in the distance on this top

1275
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,319
right image

1276
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:52,640
it rises pretty dramatically in fact it

1277
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,640
rises faster than our site and our

1278
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,240
building will

1279
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,160
and you can see that from old bayside

1280
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,400
road in many cases our building will be

1281
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,119
down below old bayside road so it will

1282
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:03,680
never

1283
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
sit prouder the finished floor elevation

1284
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,920
than old bayside road

1285
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,680
and not really overwhelm the scale of

1286
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,960
the site so we're trying to keep that

1287
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,559
three to three story building

1288
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,480
uh in the appropriate scale of the

1289
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,800
community likewise some of the adjacent

1290
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,640
buildings uh the residential buildings

1291
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,760
do the same

1292
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,839
so the visual impact of our building is

1293
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,520
significantly diminished

1294
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,520
uh despite the the height that we're

1295
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,720
requesting

1296
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,400
in addition i talked a little bit about

1297
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,160
the green buffer zone and you can see

1298
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,200
where that exists

1299
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,440
between old bayside road and the school

1300
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,280
itself and that's that really lovely

1301
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,280
meandering walkway that that takes you

1302
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,720
from the east edge of the site to the

1303
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,079
west edge of the site

1304
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,119
through the project of course nothing

1305
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:44,559
can compete with the height of the water

1306
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,160
tower which is at the highest point of

1307
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,599
the site

1308
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,240
and you can see in scale and comparison

1309
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,880
of our building to that water tower here

1310
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,440
but also very importantly in the graphic

1311
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:55,920
uh

1312
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,280
we tried to to put the the building in

1313
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,119
scale on site three-dimensionally so

1314
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,960
that you can see how the water tower

1315
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,960
really does dominate the site

1316
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,880
the other piece i want to bring up is

1317
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,960
that when you're on old bayside road

1318
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,359
if you see the line of the ridge of the

1319
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,760
adjacent houses across the street

1320
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,760
because the building is set back further

1321
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
on the site and because the building is

1322
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:17,839
set

1323
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:20,319
down into the site as much as possible

1324
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:22,079
it's not really competing with the

1325
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,119
height of the ridge in a

1326
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:24,160
three-dimensional

1327
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,720
uh viewpoint so that was very important

1328
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:27,359
for us in

1329
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:29,920
our design to be good neighbors uh

1330
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,440
particularly because many of our

1331
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,839
stakeholder group were community members

1332
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:37,040
uh and and and uh people who grew up

1333
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
here again

1334
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,640
so images here are the the

1335
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,280
aerial image of the school itself these

1336
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,160
are the

1337
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,319
three houses directly across the street

1338
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:49,440
they in fact sit

1339
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,280
higher than our property uh because

1340
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,880
those at the east end

1341
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,800
are above uh the topography of our site

1342
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,559
and hopefully if you recall the site

1343
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,640
plan uh house two three and four we'll

1344
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,839
actually be looking out into that

1345
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:02,880
parkland

1346
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,119
uh in the front of the site the other

1347
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:06,559
building adjacent neighbor

1348
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,480
that i want to point out is the daycare

1349
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,160
center which is to the northeast corner

1350
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,440
of the site

1351
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,520
and that's picture image one here on the

1352
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,720
top left

1353
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,760
and it's an important image because i

1354
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,480
want to

1355
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,880
kind of reiterate how our idea was to

1356
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,119
put a parkland on bayside road with a

1357
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:24,880
school set further back

1358
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,200
so two things happen in our relationship

1359
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,480
to that neighbor

1360
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,559
one is they are significantly uphill

1361
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:31,520
from us

1362
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,520
as a result the ridgeline of that

1363
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,800
building is actually

1364
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,400
from a three-dimensional standpoint

1365
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,640
higher visibly than the bridge line of

1366
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,359
our building

1367
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:42,400
even at its higher height likewise our

1368
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,760
building is set back

1369
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,760
and this is a fine balance that we tried

1370
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,960
to play where

1371
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,480
we're really trying to demonstrate that there's a beautiful new 21st

1372
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,440
century school

1373
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,440
on the site but also to create that

1374
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,520
green buffer which was so important

1375
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,920
in our discussions as that front area

1376
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,839
and the face that we place to the to the

1377
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:00,880
community

1378
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,119
as we develop the site and again i

1379
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,280
talked about how on old bayside road we

1380
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,559
have the same idea

1381
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,160
with the green buffer zone against the

1382
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,160
existing building as well as the way

1383
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:10,640
that

1384
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,119
the road rises uh a little bit faster

1385
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:14,880
than the site rises and our building

1386
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,000
doesn't sit

1387
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
that much higher than the road in that

1388
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,240
elevation

1389
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,160
um we hope to provide additional

1390
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,160
amenities in addition to the green zone

1391
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,680
in the park as well

1392
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,480
and chris mentioned some of the

1393
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,319
trailhead ideas and how we want to

1394
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:30,880
integrate

1395
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,520
fishing creek trail and we talked about

1396
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,920
that at the planning commission hearing

1397
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,680
and since then we've been able to take

1398
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,800
an opportunity so there's some new

1399
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,240
information on this slide in front of

1400
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:40,720
you

1401
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,480
to start to explore how we might make

1402
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,480
those connections uh so i'm sharing that

1403
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,240
for the first time here

1404
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,160
but i'll talk about the circulation on

1405
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,000
site uh in particular

1406
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,280
i talked already about the the parent

1407
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,319
drop-off and the parking loop

1408
00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:58,720
and how that is brought off of bayside

1409
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:00,079
road to protect it

1410
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:03,440
i talked about the uh bus loop which

1411
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,680
will now go from three ingresses and

1412
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,760
egresses to only two so we're gonna take

1413
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,720
one of those

1414
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,119
uh throats away we're going to create

1415
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:12,640
appropriate turning radii

1416
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,200
and and visibility for the bus loop but

1417
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,079
on here also

1418
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,559
is a diagram showing three three

1419
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,240
levels of pedestrian

1420
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,960
circulation on the site one is the most

1421
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,520
formal

1422
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,359
which is a series of 10 foot wide

1423
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:31,440
sidewalks which take you directly in

1424
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,960
very straight lines

1425
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,720
from the bus or the parent drop off

1426
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,400
directly to the front door

1427
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,920
so that's a very clear formal

1428
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,920
distinction to make sure that those kids

1429
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,760
are able to move in and out

1430
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,680
of their circulation sequence

1431
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,359
appropriately the second

1432
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:48,079
is a series of five foot sidewalks which

1433
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:49,520
are a little bit more playful and

1434
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,880
meandering

1435
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,240
and they're intended to create to

1436
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,079
connect to both the safe routes to

1437
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:55,119
school system

1438
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:58,000
to be part of the uh bicycle circulation

1439
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,680
path that is ultimately envisioned for

1440
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,319
the plan

1441
00:55:00,319 --> 00:55:03,040
of the town and it's a little bit more

1442
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,079
uh

1443
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:05,520
meandering through the site to

1444
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,200
differentiate itself from that more

1445
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:07,760
formal

1446
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,880
walkway and we also talk about a even

1447
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,400
less a third level down

1448
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,960
of of walkway pathways which is more of

1449
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,440
a nature trail kind of pathway

1450
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,000
identified in these dots here and what's

1451
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,440
new in the diagram here

1452
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,319
is we started to envision how we might

1453
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,079
now connect our school

1454
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:29,760
to that fishing creek trailway that will

1455
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,559
one day connect us all together and we

1456
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,480
identify two different variants of that

1457
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,599
connection

1458
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:37,599
one is we'd like to take advantage of

1459
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:38,720
that trailhead

1460
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,440
in our learning environment so in this

1461
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,359
location where it's directly adjacent to

1462
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:45,280
our front plaza and learning and outdoor

1463
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,760
learning

1464
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,599
environment we'd like to develop that

1465
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:49,760
trailhead as an outdoor classroom

1466
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,440
and a classroom in which students can

1467
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,799
learn about

1468
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:54,960
stormwater management and how it affects

1469
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,720
the bay and how it affects their local

1470
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:57,839
ecology

1471
00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:59,520
also perhaps learn about what they're

1472
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,040
going to see as they walk down that

1473
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,000
trail and enjoy

1474
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,040
the experience and learn about their

1475
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,960
direct ecology and environment so

1476
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,960
creating that outdoor classroom

1477
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,119
becomes part of our pedagogy as well as

1478
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,160
part of our trail head connection

1479
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,760
at the other end of our trail we'd like

1480
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,240
to look at some sort of marker

1481
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,240
whether it be a trail rules or something

1482
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,319
playful or a sensory trail or something

1483
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:24,079
that identifies that you are now

1484
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:27,520
entering that walkway down to uh fishing

1485
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,040
creek and what you might learn

1486
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,760
along the way as you take that walk

1487
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,280
whether you're part of our school

1488
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,880
or just a community member who's taking

1489
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,960
that walk and connecting the two pieces

1490
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,799
so we're just now beginning to explore

1491
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:40,720
how we might connect that in

1492
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,920
a more friendly or pedestrian way this

1493
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,599
school itself will also provide

1494
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:48,160
additional amenity to the town in

1495
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,440
addition to being a great school

1496
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,400
environment

1497
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,920
if you know the teachers and the

1498
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,200
principal and and the folks who

1499
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,640
are so passionately involved in this

1500
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,400
school you know the great service they

1501
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,520
already provide

1502
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,000
to their students in addition we want to

1503
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,559
provide

1504
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,960
a public function to the building itself

1505
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,920
as well

1506
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,839
and the gym is being designed to be

1507
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:10,640
oversized to accommodate community use

1508
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,200
in the gymnasium you can see in this top

1509
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,359
right diagram the size of the existing

1510
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:15,760
gym

1511
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,280
and the size of the new gym which will

1512
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,799
be a full sized

1513
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:25,280
basketball court gym accommodated there will also be a community office

1514
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,079
and a community

1515
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,240
storage room to support any community

1516
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480
functions that occur within that gym

1517
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,559
and this public area of the building is

1518
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:34,880
designed such that it can be closed off

1519
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,520
from the existing school so that the the

1520
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,040
school in the evening is completely

1521
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,799
secure from what will essentially

1522
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:42,480
function as a community center for

1523
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,200
evening and off-hour use

1524
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,200
another opportunity that the school has

1525
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,400
for community use

1526
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,520
is this cafeteria space whether it's for

1527
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,040
homeowners association meetings

1528
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,640
community presentations

1529
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,760
or performances

1530
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,359
it's designed in such a way that the

1531
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:01,520
stage addresses the cafeteria in this

1532
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,040
trapezoidal shape

1533
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,200
it really works two ways one for a

1534
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,640
smaller audience

1535
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,720
in the trapezoid it really provides

1536
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,559
ideal acoustic

1537
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:13,920
ideal view lines for evening use or

1538
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,280
performances

1539
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,359
but we're also planning to incorporate a

1540
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:18,960
folding partition which will now

1541
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,280
open that up to the gymnasium allowing

1542
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,680
for extremely large much larger group

1543
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,240
activities so whether it's a holiday

1544
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,960
concert

1545
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,000
or a a rented out

1546
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,319
or or borrowed out for public use for a performance or an event

1547
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:36,000
this we hope that this will become a

1548
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,559
great venue and community amenity

1549
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:41,119
uh much beyond just the school's use of

1550
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,000
the of the facility

1551
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,640
uh imbalancing our project with the

1552
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,280
environment

1553
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,760
is a critical focal point of our project

1554
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,640
as well

1555
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,559
our project will be built to a lead

1556
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:54,000
silver standard

1557
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,319
when completed and seen here just some

1558
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:57,200
of the

1559
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,280
implementation that you'll see from the

1560
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,400
outside of the building

1561
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,400
of how we're starting to address those

1562
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,760
components

1563
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,240
one is our solar orientation uh being

1564
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,160
east to west we get ideal

1565
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,720
solar orientation we we have one broad

1566
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720
south face and one broad north face so

1567
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,839
we can control

1568
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:15,760
solar heat gain and lighting but the

1569
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,119
other nice thing about

1570
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,280
identifying our building in this uh

1571
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,240
arrangement

1572
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,160
is that the shadow lines with with our

1573
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,400
building facing east west are all onto

1574
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,839
our site

1575
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:27,599
a lot of times when a building is built

1576
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:29,839
the shadow it casts on its neighbors

1577
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:33,520
can be an issue uh for for impact to the

1578
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,240
neighbors

1579
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,480
uh being that that our neighbors are

1580
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,240
mostly to the south of us we really have

1581
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,400
no opportunity to cast a shadow on any

1582
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,200
of them

1583
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,280
also the stormwater management which is

1584
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,799
the concept is currently in

1585
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:47,200
for how we're addressing that across the

1586
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,960
site is not only something that we can

1587
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,040
make a very beautiful amenity across the

1588
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,520
site

1589
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,680
we also anticipate using it as you see

1590
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,359
here in our bottom left image

1591
00:59:55,359 --> 00:59:57,280
as part of our learning environment and

1592
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,520
really

1593
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,760
conveying the idea of my environmental

1594
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,760
stewardship to our students

1595
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,000
uh particularly when they get to see the

1596
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,920
result of that stewardship directly on

1597
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,359
their local environment

1598
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:12,079
is was a really strong uh discussion

1599
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,880
point among our stakeholder group

1600
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,799
in the elevations we also took

1601
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:18,720
significant measures to

1602
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,640
make sure that our project is consistent

1603
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,359
with the architecture and ideals of the

1604
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:25,920
region and the town but also break the

1605
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,280
scale down of the building

1606
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,040
understanding that we're in a medium

1607
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,880
density residential zone

1608
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,880
we take a number of architectural moves

1609
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,799
to break the massing of our building

1610
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:35,520
down

1611
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,200
majority of our building the east side

1612
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,280
and the west side will not be

1613
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,480
above the 35 foot minimum but despite

1614
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,040
that

1615
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,079
understanding that we're putting a

1616
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,480
school in a community we took measures

1617
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,000
to break down the building by

1618
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,400
changing the facades and planes so that

1619
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,680
we get shadow lines

1620
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,760
and break down the massing change of

1621
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,920
materials to break down that massing as

1622
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,480
well

1623
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,200
we also implement a design strategy that

1624
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,880
we call local symmetry

1625
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,960
so rather but and what that means is

1626
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,480
rather than designing

1627
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,079
a building where all the windows are

1628
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,720
equally spaced across the entire facade

1629
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,880
that would make this entire facade feel

1630
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,400
like one big piece

1631
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,960
by designing windows and in groupings so

1632
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,440
that they're

1633
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,520
in smaller groupings that you identify

1634
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,520
as separate little pieces

1635
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,839
that is what we refer to as a local

1636
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,000
symmetry and starts to break that facade

1637
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,640
down even further so our idea is to

1638
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,280
really

1639
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,200
articulate the building to make the

1640
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,960
scale of the building consistent with

1641
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,359
the scale of the community it's in

1642
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:35,839
uh from a design standpoint that then

1643
01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:36,640
starts to

1644
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,480
migrate into the materiality of the

1645
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,480
building and how that building looks and

1646
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:41,440
addresses

1647
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,680
both the community as well as you know

1648
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,440
present the appropriate front

1649
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,480
uh to people arriving at the school

1650
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,839
and understanding that this is a

1651
01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:52,000
state-of-the-art

1652
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,559
21st century learning environment and

1653
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,799
i'll give you just a little insight on

1654
01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:58,400
two different options that we're playing

1655
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,039
with right now in that materiality

1656
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:02,960
one is what we call our landscape

1657
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,400
palette it's one that

1658
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,720
looks to have our building meld into the

1659
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,319
landscape a little bit

1660
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:10,640
very and not contrast with the landscape

1661
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,640
so natural materials between the

1662
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,400
masonry's and the and the woods and

1663
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,599
the metal uh roofing perhaps or stone

1664
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:20,000
and and wood pallets are really what

1665
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,200
we're trying to look at

1666
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,079
in the landscape palette and likewise we

1667
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:24,799
are looking

1668
01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:26,400
at another palette that we're calling

1669
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,240
the lighthouse palette and this is one

1670
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:28,640
that

1671
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,079
starts to employ the the nautical

1672
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:32,960
vernacular

1673
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,880
that is so consistent throughout the

1674
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,480
downtown of chesapeake beach

1675
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,319
in our architectural as well both in the massing and the shape of our

1676
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:42,480
building but also in the materiality

1677
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,039
with the standing seams the vertical uh

1678
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:46,799
lines through the building that that

1679
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:49,200
connotate that vertical uh siding

1680
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,319
components

1681
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:52,640
so a lot is going into developing our

1682
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,160
design in such a way that it is

1683
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,240
consistent with the architecture

1684
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,920
and the feel of the of the community

1685
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,640
um so with that i'm going to end the

1686
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,319
kind of the formal presentation

1687
01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:05,920
since we are looking at the special

1688
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,480
exception first i'll conclude

1689
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,720
this part with just how we address the

1690
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,240
six requirements of the special

1691
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,359
exception

1692
01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:16,720
um one is that i believe we believe that

1693
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,480
as the applicant that the project will

1694
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,400
not be detrimental or endangered to the

1695
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,119
public

1696
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,839
uh hopefully i was able to convey how

1697
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:25,680
far we went to really

1698
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,640
articulate the the safety on site and

1699
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,319
the safety and connections to the

1700
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:32,799
ultimate safe routes to school project

1701
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:34,880
uh our design is striving to be

1702
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,640
harmonious with the regional and town

1703
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,559
character both in its massing

1704
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,400
its materiality and the way we're

1705
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,799
addressing the site of the town

1706
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:44,799
of the of our the way we're addressing

1707
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:46,000
that green space

1708
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,960
uh to the to the town itself uh we we

1709
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,799
don't think we'll be an impedance to the

1710
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:52,400
development of json properties

1711
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,240
in fact all the adjacent properties are

1712
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,160
already developed

1713
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,720
uh we don't believe also as chris

1714
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,960
indicated that we will have an adverse

1715
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,440
impact to local public facilities in

1716
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,000
fact

1717
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,240
i'm hoping that we will provide a public

1718
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,119
amenity to the community at large

1719
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:11,200
and great effort was taken to evaluate

1720
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,440
the pedestrian and vehicle traffic

1721
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,760
uh both in immediate implementation and

1722
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,720
how we

1723
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,200
uh articulate that through our site and

1724
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,799
of course to the ultimate

1725
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:23,200
uh goal with in that 2040 vision once

1726
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,960
the safe routes to school project

1727
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,359
and the interconnected town is developed

1728
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,200
we hope to just literally click in right

1729
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,319
to that plan

1730
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:33,039
when it's ultimately envisioned and seen

1731
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:34,400
through

1732
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,960
so also having implemented the goals of

1733
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,720
the town's 2040 vision

1734
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,400
and the fact that this is our always

1735
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,720
been a school and plan to be a school

1736
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,640
we hope that you find that the project

1737
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,480
is consistent with that comprehensive

1738
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,839
plan as well

1739
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,319
uh so in conclusion those are the six

1740
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:52,400
criteria of the special exception

1741
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,960
which uh we're happy to answer any

1742
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,640
questions and take any comments that you

1743
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,599
may have

1744
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:05,349
appreciate your time this evening

1745
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:20,710
are there any questions from the board

1746
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,799
i do have one question uh this is jody

1747
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:24,400
hunstar um i

1748
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,599
i'm wondering about the word uh existing

1749
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:29,839
in your plans does does something like

1750
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:31,839
existing tennis courts mean that it is

1751
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:35,280
going to be untouched by your uh project

1752
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,359
or is that just a conceptual thing that

1753
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:38,880
the tennis courts will

1754
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,640
stay in the right place like are you

1755
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,160
planning on making any modifications or

1756
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,280
changes there

1757
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,839
we're not and i think that is maintained

1758
01:05:45,839 --> 01:05:47,520
right now by parks and recs not the

1759
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,400
school system

1760
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,000
so our intention is to leave that in its

1761
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:56,630
current condition thank you

1762
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,559
mr jacobiak do you have any questions

1763
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:10,150
of the applicant

1764
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,670
you're muted chris

1765
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,440
i'm sorry and thank you whoever said

1766
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,200
that i appreciate that um

1767
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,680
yes i have one question and i also have

1768
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:22,400
two

1769
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,200
things i'd like to mention uh first is

1770
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,880
the the applicant referred to rand

1771
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,920
referred to the

1772
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,200
2040 vision what that

1773
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,480
is is a vision

1774
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,119
statement that the planning commission

1775
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:40,559
has put together

1776
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,680
as part of the current comprehensive

1777
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,359
planning process

1778
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:47,280
it reflects what the planning commission

1779
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,960
is is um

1780
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,270
as understood as the um

1781
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,680
the priorities of the town and it's it's

1782
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,760
drafted in a way to encompass

1783
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,359
the results of a series of public

1784
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:00,960
meetings and a survey that

1785
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,119
the planning commission conducted so

1786
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,280
it's not official yet because it hasn't

1787
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,319
been adopted

1788
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:08,720
it would be adopted when the new

1789
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,880
comprehensive plan gets adopted

1790
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,559
of course it may change it may be

1791
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:14,000
refined over time

1792
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,319
and it's a draft right now but to date

1793
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:17,680
it really does

1794
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,119
accurately reflect where the town uh

1795
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:24,079
citizens are thinking when they engage

1796
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:26,319
with the planning commission

1797
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:29,039
and candidly it's not a huge departure

1798
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:29,520
from

1799
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,640
the current comprehensive plan so iran

1800
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,039
is spot on and i it does appear that this project does

1801
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:40,640
really seek to reflect those um

1802
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,000
those elements in that vision

1803
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,640
second the um planning commission met on

1804
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,680
this project

1805
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,160
because the zoning ordinance says that

1806
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,680
the board of appeals

1807
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,240
refers special exceptions to the

1808
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,680
planning commission

1809
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,799
for a recommendation and the planning

1810
01:07:58,799 --> 01:07:59,440
commission

1811
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,599
did review this two weeks ago and they

1812
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:03,440
did make a recommendation

1813
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,839
and their recommendation was that the

1814
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,680
board of appeals approved

1815
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,200
this special exception um and i'll give

1816
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,200
you the recommendation on the variance

1817
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,239
uh later the last thing i i

1818
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,480
would just ask the applicant and

1819
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:19,920
specifically ran

1820
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,159
iran could you uh just for the record

1821
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:23,040
and for the

1822
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,400
board's benefit explain who you are as

1823
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,679
an architect

1824
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:30,400
what your degree is and uh your

1825
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,319
professional qualifications because i

1826
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:34,640
think it helps round out the discussion

1827
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,400
and adds a context for your testimony

1828
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,040
certainly so my name is ron ilkovich i i

1829
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,080
represent

1830
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,759
calvary county public schools is my

1831
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:45,759
client i'm an architect

1832
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:47,440
my firm is small enamored ilkovich

1833
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:48,880
architects and i'm principal

1834
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,080
and president of that firm but

1835
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,759
really and i appreciate you bringing

1836
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:55,600
that up i i represent

1837
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,679
not only the school system but the

1838
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:00,000
stakeholder advisory group that really

1839
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,159
participated in this process uh because

1840
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:04,159
it is a collaborative process

1841
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,400
uh certainly what i would dream up in my

1842
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,560
bubble is very different than what gets

1843
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,080
worked out together when we all

1844
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,159
collaborate my personal

1845
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:15,920
uh cv i i'm

1846
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,759
local to the area i grew up here in

1847
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:18,960
state of maryland

1848
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,279
montgomery county i went to school at

1849
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:22,560
the university of maryland for my

1850
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,279
undergrad

1851
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,480
achieved my bachelor's of science last

1852
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:27,199
century

1853
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:29,679
and my masters of architecture as well

1854
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:31,440
from the university of maryland

1855
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:34,640
in 1998. i've been

1856
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,120
at this position and i've been in this

1857
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,880
firm for 24 years

1858
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,239
this month in my current firm

1859
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,159
and i've been principal of the firm for

1860
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:45,679
12 years

1861
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:48,159
so those are my personal background

1862
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,480
story

1863
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,239
i've been working with calvert county

1864
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,600
public schools

1865
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,880
since 1996 my first project that i did

1866
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,560
with calvary county public schools

1867
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,880
was dow elementary school and i've had

1868
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,120
the great pleasure to work with calvert

1869
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,400
county public schools

1870
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,800
pretty consistently ever since then and

1871
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,719
it's been just a great relationship

1872
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:11,600
uh and and one that i'm and has produced

1873
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,480
projects

1874
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,400
like dale elementary school like calvert

1875
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,640
high school like the vocational center

1876
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,480
uh that i i consider cornerstones of my

1877
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:23,280
career and i'm extremely proud of so

1878
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,600
i've long since appreciated working in

1879
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,640
calvert county

1880
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,480
and i also appreciate the seafood to be

1881
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:34,550
quite honest

1882
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,390
no further questions from me uh

1883
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,400
okay um

1884
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,280
now we'll hear from the public sharon

1885
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,800
has anyone signed up to speak

1886
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:56,390
on the uh no

1887
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,440
okay uh is there anyone on this call

1888
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,600
that would like to speak on this matter

1889
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,080
and ask questions of the applicant

1890
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,750
and so now is your time

1891
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,520
yes this is mike schissler principal of

1892
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,920
the school i i just want to share as

1893
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,760
ron's alluded to several times

1894
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
this has been a multi-year process

1895
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:20,800
getting to this point and i want to say uh i continue to be amazed

1896
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,920
at what ron and his firm have done

1897
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,679
with the plans and with the ideas that

1898
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:27,360
they've collected from us

1899
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,480
uh and they continue to uh

1900
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:32,320
improve on them i mean just tonight he

1901
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,000
shared again with you ideas

1902
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,679
that they took from the planning and

1903
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:37,360
zoning hearing that we had a few weeks

1904
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,000
ago

1905
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,800
and have incorporated them uh into the concept especially the

1906
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,040
connection to the fishing creek trail

1907
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,800
and i just want to say for for

1908
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,719
everyone's benefit again just uh

1909
01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:51,920
for a point of transparency um when

1910
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,560
mayor wall got the trail um you know the

1911
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,159
idea started with bruce wall and it took

1912
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:57,440
10 years to get there

1913
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:00,560
that we still have a ways to go um the

1914
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:01,840
school system can

1915
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,840
certainly work what's on its property

1916
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,239
and work on improving a trail

1917
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:08,560
but uh the the town or the whomever is

1918
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,080
going to follow up with the trail

1919
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,280
is going to have to you know build

1920
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,120
another access across fishing greeks and

1921
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,080
have to build

1922
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,239
um a boardwalk through the marsh or

1923
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:17,360
around the marsh

1924
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,199
to connect with our school property in

1925
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:21,280
so those are several steps that um

1926
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,440
have to be done before we do make that

1927
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:24,719
connection so

1928
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:26,560
once this the school is finished in the

1929
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,880
summer of 23 doesn't mean that that

1930
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,480
trail connection is going to be finished

1931
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,239
although it would be you know great that

1932
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:35,120
it's in the pipeline with other efforts from other groups and

1933
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,719
committees so

1934
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:39,679
but again i want to thank dr spencer and

1935
01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:40,960
all your

1936
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,840
appeal board members tonight and again i

1937
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,719
just want to say that

1938
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:46,159
ron and company have done a fantastic

1939
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:49,199
job in our opinion

1940
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:56,790
thank you thank you

1941
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,480
okay does the applicant have any

1942
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:03,120
cross-examination of any speaker

1943
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,560
no ma'am if noah

1944
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,800
closed this part of the meeting and now

1945
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,840
we will turn our attention

1946
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,040
uh to the variance let's start again

1947
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,080
with mr

1948
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:21,350
jacobia

1949
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,000
i can be very brief now because i think

1950
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,120
there's a

1951
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,719
nice presentation already of the

1952
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:28,239
building um

1953
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:32,280
but the applicant is requesting a

1954
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,159
23 foot variance

1955
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:40,159
to the 35 foot

1956
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,440
maximum height standard in order to make

1957
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:44,159
the building

1958
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:48,159
58 feet tall so um

1959
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:49,920
currently the zoning ordinance caps

1960
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,800
building height at 35 feet

1961
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,440
in the residential medium density zone

1962
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,440
buildings can exceed 35 feet

1963
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:00,400
well the roofs can pop out over 35 feet

1964
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,440
but

1965
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:04,320
essentially it's a 35 foot maximum

1966
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:05,199
height

1967
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:08,800
the applicant is proposing a portion of

1968
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,520
the building to

1969
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,440
go 23 feet higher than that so that

1970
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:17,120
the total maximum height will be 58 feet

1971
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,920
and i believe i've got that right so um

1972
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,360
that's the request um and you remember that uh

1973
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,280
fred sussman the attorney has reviewed

1974
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,600
with you the standards for granting a

1975
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,600
variance

1976
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,520
and the variance standards are

1977
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:34,800
essentially

1978
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,840
related to the existing site

1979
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:47,840
and the impact of the variants on adjoining properties so

1980
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,760
what the applicant has to demonstrate is

1981
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:50,400
that

1982
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,239
there's something unique about this

1983
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,000
property the physical

1984
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,640
aspects of this property that require

1985
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,280
them

1986
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,040
to exceed the maximum height limitation

1987
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,800
you simply can't come to the board of

1988
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,719
appeals and ask for a variance just

1989
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:06,159
because you want one

1990
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:08,480
you have to point to a physical

1991
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:09,679
condition

1992
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:13,120
that limits your ability to comply with

1993
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,239
the strict

1994
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:16,800
code right and uh as a zoning

1995
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,000
administrator or

1996
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,520
as the planning commission we have to

1997
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,600
apply the code strictly

1998
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,880
but an applicant come can come to you

1999
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,080
and ask for relief and

2000
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,239
i i go through this because i know most

2001
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:31,760
of the members right now are relatively

2002
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,159
new

2003
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:33,760
on the board of appeals and you haven't

2004
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,920
seen many variances

2005
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,440
but the applicant can come to you and

2006
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,520
ask for relief and they have to point to

2007
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,120
something unique about their property

2008
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,080
that suggests

2009
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,280
they can't comply with the standard um

2010
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,199
so i think what i'm doing is shaping the

2011
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:49,040
testimony that i think ran has to

2012
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,080
provide you

2013
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,840
uh he's gonna probably talk about the size of the lot the

2014
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,040
presence of the existing school the uh

2015
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,040
conditions of the environment like steep

2016
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,960
slopes and wetland buffers and the

2017
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,320
forest buffer

2018
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,920
and and the fact that there's not much

2019
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,560
land left to build on and

2020
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,520
as a result variance is requested so you

2021
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,880
can build it up a little higher and the

2022
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,480
kids can continue to go to school

2023
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,960
which is pretty important um those are

2024
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,400
the essential things

2025
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,719
the last thing is that the applicant has

2026
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:21,360
to say that

2027
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,640
he would experience a hardship if you

2028
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,480
couldn't get this variance

2029
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,000
and of course you could imagine what a

2030
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,840
hardship might be that the applicant

2031
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,679
would experience the the lot is such

2032
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:32,400
that

2033
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,239
physical conditions prevent you from

2034
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,480
building uh

2035
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:40,239
a low building and as a result um

2036
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:41,920
there's a hardship that's felt in this

2037
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,080
case the hardship may be public

2038
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,239
rather than just simply private in the

2039
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:47,199
sense that

2040
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,320
uh a school's uh an essential element of

2041
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,080
the community and certainly supported by

2042
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,679
the community and

2043
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:57,440
while in today's world

2044
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:59,920
we're all learning from home at some

2045
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:01,040
point the kids are going to go back to

2046
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:01,440
school

2047
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:03,440
and they need a place to study and learn

2048
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:04,880
in

2049
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,120
and missing that opportunity will

2050
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,520
certainly provide a hardship

2051
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,800
to the residents of chesapeake beach so

2052
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,600
i just summarized quickly the six seven

2053
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,040
standards that the variance

2054
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:24,640
requires and um and that dr spencer

2055
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,120
concludes my my quick summary unless the

2056
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:33,750
board members have any questions

2057
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,590
okay if there are

2058
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,669
no more questions

2059
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:46,630
i will close the discussion

2060
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,800
and the board will go into deliberation

2061
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,120
and decide quote

2062
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,320
madam chair madam chair fred sussman

2063
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,920
the applicant has to make his

2064
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,840
presentation regarding the variance

2065
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,159
thanks so

2066
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:08,239
i'll i'll in in my uh

2067
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:09,840
in my discussion on the variance i'll

2068
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,280
simply just address the five

2069
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,560
points that are the points of

2070
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,960
deliberation that were

2071
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,560
presented at the beginning of the

2072
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,480
meeting

2073
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,520
as well as kind of summarized in chris's

2074
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,760
presentation earlier

2075
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,120
one is addressing item one i believe our

2076
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,880
variance is in harmony with its

2077
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:29,760
surroundings

2078
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,080
uh we hope to improve the public welfare

2079
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,840
in town just with the redevelopment of

2080
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,600
the school but also with the re

2081
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,239
development of the site and we hope we

2082
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:40,239
were able to demonstrate that

2083
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:42,800
it's consistent with that town vision

2084
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,040
and the town ideals and the architecture

2085
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,360
of the town

2086
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,600
number two it's the continued use of the

2087
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,360
site of the if

2088
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,400
number two is about the use permitted by

2089
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,199
the zoning

2090
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,520
and with the special exception that we

2091
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,600
were requesting earlier this evening

2092
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,560
that is an acceptable use uh item number

2093
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,120
three

2094
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,040
is the special circumstances and the

2095
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
site limitations and i've brought that

2096
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,960
slide again up on the screen

2097
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,080
uh to just reiterate the the limited

2098
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,080
area of the site that's available for

2099
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,000
construction

2100
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,239
between the steep soap the buffer

2101
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,159
setbacks the wetlands

2102
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:21,840
and the existing school that must be

2103
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,440
retained in operation during our

2104
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:25,120
construction process

2105
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,440
uh those are the special circumstances

2106
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:30,239
and the physical limitations of the site

2107
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,960
the hardship of course is at the 35 feet

2108
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,480
which is really

2109
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,719
intended for residential construction

2110
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:38,239
because this is the medium density

2111
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:39,600
residential zone

2112
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,440
really doesn't address the needs of a

2113
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,760
multi-story elementary school

2114
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,920
and the footprint that's available for

2115
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,280
us construction

2116
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,760
on because of those site limitations

2117
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,199
really requires us

2118
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:53,120
to go to a multi-story elementary school

2119
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,480
and particularly in this case to a

2120
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:56,560
three-story elementary school

2121
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,360
to accommodate the program the hardship

2122
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,080
of course

2123
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,400
is that if we can't build this building

2124
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,360
vertically

2125
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,440
we cannot accommodate the quantity of

2126
01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:07,760
spaces in classrooms and therefore not

2127
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,880
can accommodate the capacity uh

2128
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,199
of that the building requires to serve

2129
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,920
the needs of the population the students in and

2130
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,560
around the town of chesapeake beach

2131
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,400
so that that is really our hardship that

2132
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,679
we can't meet the

2133
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:24,880
needs so to address item number five we

2134
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,320
hope you find our variance

2135
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,400
requests as reasonable and of course

2136
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,480
necessary to accomplish the goals of our

2137
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,679
project

2138
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:33,760
so just in summary that's the the

2139
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,120
request that we're making

2140
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,440
uh directly related to the five

2141
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:38,560
questions

2142
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:49,990
that we've been asked to answer for that

2143
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,199
this is the second time that i've

2144
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,960
watched this presentation um

2145
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,280
and i'm really very impressed

2146
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,520
but that's a personal note i need to now

2147
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,360
take it back to the board

2148
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:12,830
and we need to deliberate uh so

2149
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,440
um

2150
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:18,239
i think that you need to uh see whether

2151
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,880
any of the board members or mr jacobiac

2152
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,320
have any questions uh for the applicant

2153
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,400
and also if there are any members of the

2154
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,679
public who would

2155
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:29,520
like to speak on this part of the

2156
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,080
application

2157
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,790
okay we'll do

2158
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:43,990
mr yakubiak do you have any comments

2159
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,080
yes the only one i wanted to mention

2160
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,400
that the planning commission offered a

2161
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,800
recommendation on the variants as well

2162
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,719
even though they they weren't required

2163
01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:54,480
to by the ordinance they did

2164
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:57,360
recommend approval of the variants they

2165
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,280
made that part of their motion

2166
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,719
when they approved this special when

2167
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:04,480
they recommended the special exception

2168
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:09,030
and that's all i have to comment on

2169
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,629
anyone else

2170
01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:15,679
madam chair uh dave ferguson here i

2171
01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:16,000
would

2172
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,199
just like to ask whether any of the

2173
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:20,000
residents

2174
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,800
in that neighborhood have expressed

2175
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:37,350
concern about the height

2176
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,239
well um i can take and take a stab at

2177
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:40,719
that

2178
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:42,400
i've not heard anything and we haven't

2179
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,239
received any comments

2180
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,920
um in the mail or phone calls at the

2181
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,440
town hall as far as i know

2182
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:52,159
certainly sharon could uh help answer

2183
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:53,120
that question too

2184
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,840
but typically i would hear about it um

2185
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,960
and the property has been posted

2186
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,080
extensively so sharon

2187
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:08,000
yeah no there's been no comment good

2188
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,960
uh this is sushita warner with calvert

2189
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,800
county schools if i may add

2190
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,480
um we made the presentation

2191
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:20,000
initially to the board of education

2192
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,159
goodness it's probably been a little bit

2193
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:24,320
over a year ago

2194
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,840
uh when we went about uh embarking on a

2195
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,520
feasibility study

2196
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,920
and we were looking at a variety of

2197
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:32,719
options

2198
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:35,679
for beach elementary school and at the

2199
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:36,239
time

2200
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:39,120
the three-story option was certainly one

2201
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,000
of the items

2202
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,320
or one of the schemes that was presented

2203
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,480
out in the public and it was covered in

2204
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,000
the local papers a long time

2205
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,159
ago and we have heard nothing but

2206
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,080
positive comments so i just wanted to

2207
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,199
put that out there

2208
01:23:53,199 --> 01:24:01,189
for everybody great

2209
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,229
anyone okay

2210
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:07,600
um madame chairman this is jan rutkay um

2211
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,800
i have a question regarding

2212
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,960
the vision for the town that includes

2213
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:21,600
enhanced walkability and i'm impressed with the fact that ran

2214
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,360
has already uh offered up several ideas

2215
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,440
as to how the school property might

2216
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:28,840
potentially

2217
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,560
connect to what will be a future

2218
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,920
walkway and board wastes and boardwalk

2219
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,840
system

2220
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,639
i think my question might be to chris

2221
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:41,280
perhaps

2222
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,159
is that since this is important to the

2223
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:45,199
town

2224
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:48,400
um is this something ran

2225
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,280
is this something that we have your

2226
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,159
commitment

2227
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:55,189
on doing

2228
01:24:55,199 --> 01:25:00,960
i mean is it actually it seems like it's tentative at this point maybe i'm

2229
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:01,760
wrong

2230
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,639
about that i mean the sidewalk system

2231
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:05,920
that we're proposing

2232
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,960
is part of our design

2233
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,000
okay so so depending upon how you

2234
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,000
choose to eventually at some point in

2235
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,480
the future connect the school ground

2236
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,440
uh with uh walkways boardwalks and that

2237
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:22,320
sort of thing

2238
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:23,920
you're committed that that will be a

2239
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,560
part of your plan correct so

2240
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,120
a number of components one is the safe

2241
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,719
walks to schools

2242
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:33,679
project our project connects sidewalks

2243
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:35,360
to every corner

2244
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,080
um i think chris also highlighted his

2245
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,280
report how we're also planning

2246
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:40,080
crosswalks

2247
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,000
at the major intersection of bayside and

2248
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,000
old bayside to connect to the

2249
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,040
interconnected town sidewalk system uh

2250
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,800
and the components that i spoke of

2251
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,400
earlier of the connection down to

2252
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,440
fishing creek

2253
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,400
we really want to make that gateway and

2254
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:55,440
then connect that

2255
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:58,800
at a future time great okay that was

2256
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,560
uh i'm a member of the walkability

2257
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,000
committee and that was something that

2258
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,880
was of uh tremendous focus and interest so

2259
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,080
good thank you and and jan if i can just

2260
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,679
to build on that point

2261
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:14,080
um it would be extremely difficult

2262
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,679
within the scope of

2263
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:18,880
the school's project and budget to lay

2264
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,920
out

2265
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,960
the specific alignment for an extension

2266
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,400
to fishing creek trail

2267
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:29,040
at this point and being involved

2268
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,239
15 years ago in the first trail linkage

2269
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:34,639
that we built

2270
01:26:34,639 --> 01:26:36,560
that process is quite extensive and

2271
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,080
involves the

2272
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,199
many state agencies um and uh

2273
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:43,360
it will take a lot of time and uh the

2274
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,639
town needs to know

2275
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:46,320
where the alignment is going to be where

2276
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,920
we'll enter uh

2277
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,480
this neighborhood if you will before we

2278
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:51,840
could even ask the school

2279
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,480
uh right but they have indicated to work

2280
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:56,000
with us and would go back to planning

2281
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,520
commission we'll have a firmer idea

2282
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:58,000
about

2283
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,239
roughly where those connections were

2284
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:01,760
going to be and we even heard from the

2285
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,199
principal tonight

2286
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:06,320
um about the general support for the

2287
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,719
interconnection here and that's that's

2288
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:10,159
so uh gratifying

2289
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:12,000
and uh it's nice to see this long-term

2290
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,920
plan coming to fruition

2291
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,199
slowly but surely over time

2292
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:20,639
thank you chris uh madam chair if i made

2293
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:24,790
this is fred sussman again

2294
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,520
uh i think that we should make sure that

2295
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,800
the applicant

2296
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,199
offered for the record the all the

2297
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,360
application materials and supporting

2298
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,320
documents

2299
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,080
they've been referred to and they've

2300
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,920
been provided to

2301
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,840
the various commission members but i

2302
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,679
think we should have on the record

2303
01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:44,800
uh a request to have those application

2304
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:45,760
materials made

2305
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,880
a part of the record so uh

2306
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,639
mr ilkovitz if you would make that

2307
01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:53,270
profit

2308
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,830
uh yes absolutely

2309
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,239
sharon

2310
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:08,790
you're still with us correct

2311
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,800
yes she is i believe she might be muted

2312
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,750
let me just

2313
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,870
no i'm yeah

2314
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,520
yes i'll entered into the record the

2315
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,400
application

2316
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,520
and the supporting document thank you

2317
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,120
sharon

2318
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:32,310
uh-huh thanks fred

2319
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,360
is there anything else before we

2320
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:46,709
go into our deliberation

2321
01:28:46,719 --> 01:28:50,080
okay madam chair may i before you go to

2322
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,510
deliberations

2323
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,639
this is fred sussman yes

2324
01:28:56,639 --> 01:29:00,159
okay uh we've uh dealt with a number of

2325
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:02,080
applications before together

2326
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,480
in uh i don't know if we had any of the

2327
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,159
past year but certainly within

2328
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:08,480
the past two years and the way we've

2329
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:09,520
handled them

2330
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,880
is that the board what it deliberates

2331
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,480
uh may come to a tentative decision

2332
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:19,440
and makes a motion directing or

2333
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:20,560
requesting

2334
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,360
me as the board's attorney to prepare a

2335
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:24,639
resolution

2336
01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:27,840
uh to reflect the board decision i

2337
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,320
do that and it comes back to you as a

2338
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,440
board

2339
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:34,719
for uh review and final approval

2340
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:37,280
so i would recommend that whatever way

2341
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,199
the board ultimately decides to want to

2342
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:39,840
go on

2343
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,920
these two applications then we follow

2344
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,199
the same process

2345
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:46,080
that the motion be that the attorney be

2346
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,679
directed or requested

2347
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:57,830
to prepare a resolution to do x y and z

2348
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:08,790
thank you

2349
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,000
can i hear the board's opinion

2350
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,400
this is the way that we've been doing it

2351
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,400
and i recommend that we do now

2352
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,040
but i'd like to hear from the board

2353
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:29,189
because we have new members on now

2354
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:33,760
board members dave ferguson here i agree

2355
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,000
with

2356
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,120
the process but in the past we've had to

2357
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,480
meet in purple

2358
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:41,520
in person uh i would recommend that we

2359
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,199
instead do another virtual meeting or

2360
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:48,560
telephone conference to discuss

2361
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,920
your resolution

2362
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,960
and and then we could each

2363
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,080
come by town hall individually and sign

2364
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,629
it

2365
01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:02,960
i don't have any problem with that but

2366
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,080
on the board

2367
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,199
uh have to consider the resolution

2368
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:11,120
in a uh in a public meeting and

2369
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,360
it could certainly be a virtual meeting

2370
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,040
as we're doing here today

2371
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,800
or it could be a meeting done by

2372
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,120
teleconference as long as proper notice

2373
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,080
is given

2374
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,719
uh so i don't have any uh issue with

2375
01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:23,199
what you're

2376
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:25,679
suggesting uh but we were doing this uh

2377
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:26,960
a year or two ago

2378
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,960
there was no need for virtual meetings

2379
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,120
we were actually meeting in person

2380
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,520
so in today's environment certainly for

2381
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,040
the foreseeable future

2382
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,520
i think business is going to continue to

2383
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:38,480
be conducted

2384
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:41,679
the way we're doing it today no

2385
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:45,679
go ahead go ahead and eat

2386
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:48,480
well well i think what we need to agree

2387
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:48,800
to

2388
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,870
hear um

2389
01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:52,639
[Music]

2390
01:31:52,639 --> 01:31:55,440
is the resolution is preparation of the

2391
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,360
resolution

2392
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:02,000
um and we can talk later about how

2393
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,080
um we follow up with what has to be done

2394
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,159
what's your opinion on the resolution

2395
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:13,990
again i'm in agreement with david

2396
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:21,350
out well with fred sorry

2397
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,040
to have fred our attorney prepare

2398
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,719
a resolution and then we

2399
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:32,320
decide how we will sign it

2400
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:38,550
given today's environment

2401
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:43,199
each of us went to the

2402
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:46,870
town hall to sign

2403
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:51,280
uh that would be an issue how do we

2404
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:56,870
handle that

2405
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:01,679
yes i could always do a docusign

2406
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:05,280
um and send it to each one assigned that

2407
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:06,960
way

2408
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,520
okay which i have done

2409
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,800
in this covet uh

2410
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,520
us being home and doing meetings

2411
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:18,960
virtually

2412
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,600
through the council i have done through

2413
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,000
the docusign for them to sign

2414
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,750
documents

2415
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,639
dr spencer i like that idea because uh

2416
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:33,280
it may reduce the time it takes to get

2417
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:34,239
this

2418
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:36,960
decision official uh and anything we can

2419
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,440
do

2420
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,920
uh to give the school board clear

2421
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,320
direction on what your decision is

2422
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,920
um as quickly as possible would be

2423
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,000
i'm certainly preferred by everybody

2424
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,480
involved

2425
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:53,520
so if it means expediting the opinion

2426
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,159
the resolution and the signing let's see

2427
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:57,600
what we can do because i know the

2428
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,040
applicants want to get in front of the

2429
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,960
planning commission soon for

2430
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,600
a site plan review and you know that

2431
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:04,560
process

2432
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,080
is another step uh that has to take

2433
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,159
place

2434
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:27,350
thank you okay

2435
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,880
is there anything else before we do

2436
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,159
you know i'm i'm i'm hesitating here now

2437
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:37,430
um

2438
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,159
fred what are we looking at in terms of

2439
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:42,000
time

2440
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:48,149
uh probably uh two weeks

2441
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:51,119
yeah perhaps a little bit sooner but

2442
01:34:51,119 --> 01:34:53,040
this is going to be a

2443
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,600
relative a little bit more detailed

2444
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:56,639
resolution

2445
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:58,880
and i do have other uh commitments and

2446
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,719
priorities to other clients

2447
01:35:00,719 --> 01:35:02,800
so i understand that there's a little

2448
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,199
bit of urgency and i'll do what i can

2449
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:07,520
uh but you know if you're saying you

2450
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:08,719
know uh what's

2451
01:35:08,719 --> 01:35:11,600
uh the timetable i would say uh i would

2452
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,199
get done within two weeks

2453
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:17,830
and sooner if possible

2454
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,239
mr sussman dave ferguson here did i

2455
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:21,280
understand

2456
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,480
you that we need to have a public

2457
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:28,080
meeting to approve the resolution

2458
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,960
and sign it yes uh not to sign it but at

2459
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:31,440
least

2460
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:35,679
uh improvement to prove it

2461
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:38,719
it's business of the uh commission of

2462
01:35:38,719 --> 01:35:39,600
the upside

2463
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,080
of the board yeah if we have to have a

2464
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:43,040
public meeting

2465
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,840
we have to advertise it what is it

2466
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,760
sharing three weeks

2467
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,199
prior uh

2468
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:54,239
no um two weeks would be sufficient

2469
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:57,840
two weeks okay so perhaps after our

2470
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:58,719
deliberate

2471
01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:02,159
deliberations we could uh you know

2472
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:06,320
go ahead and uh set a date for the next

2473
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:06,960
meeting

2474
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,840
uh if mr sussman thinks he can you know

2475
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,159
have it prepared by then and

2476
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:14,480
you could go ahead and advertise the

2477
01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:15,440
meeting

2478
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:20,070
so that that clock is running

2479
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:24,400
makes sense

2480
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,960
uh this is suchita warner may i ask a

2481
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:27,840
question

2482
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,600
uh i just wanted to find out

2483
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,480
in terms of the time frame uh and chris

2484
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:36,639
please jump in if you would

2485
01:36:36,639 --> 01:36:38,719
uh in terms of the next planning

2486
01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:39,760
commission meeting

2487
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,040
certainly we're anxious to be able to

2488
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,880
make our next presentation which i

2489
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,880
believe is sometime in september is the

2490
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,800
next planning commission meeting

2491
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,239
uh and then we also have a clock that

2492
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:54,159
we're trying to move towards

2493
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:56,239
in terms of design development and with

2494
01:36:56,239 --> 01:36:57,440
the state

2495
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:02,320
um you know as far as submission and starting the design development

2496
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,600
process

2497
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,800
so i guess my question is

2498
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,320
uh is that um the resolution

2499
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,400
the process of the resolution is that

2500
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,199
set in stone or is there any way

2501
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:18,560
to be able to take up um

2502
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:23,600
the motion and uh accept the the variance and the special exception

2503
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,920
tonight just trying to

2504
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,480
the voice and the voice rules require

2505
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,480
that there be a written resolution

2506
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:32,480
and they contain findings of facts and

2507
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,360
conclusions of law yeah just as this is

2508
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:36,960
an administrative hearing

2509
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,239
administrative process so uh at least

2510
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:43,280
you will know uh tonight presumably

2511
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,000
if the board has directed me to prepare

2512
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,119
a resolution

2513
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,280
to approve the special exception and or

2514
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:50,239
variant or

2515
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:53,520
to deny it at least you'll know that

2516
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,119
and the next planning commission meeting

2517
01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:58,320
is september 23rd

2518
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,480
and um

2519
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:04,960
there's you know we like to have the

2520
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,159
agenda set

2521
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:09,040
a couple weeks in advance uh we could

2522
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,040
certainly place this on the agenda for

2523
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,320
site plan review

2524
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,040
and obviously there's a risk there that

2525
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,360
something

2526
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:18,960
could conceivably happen in the

2527
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,800
resolution not be signed

2528
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,199
but i would expect that this resolution

2529
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,960
would be signed

2530
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:30,320
by the 23rd of september

2531
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,719
thank you i actually should say

2532
01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:33,760
factually

2533
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,440
to be fashionably correct the next

2534
01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:38,320
meeting is is august 26th

2535
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,159
but you're not going to make that agenda

2536
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:42,400
obviously that's next week

2537
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,360
um but uh the the next meeting where we

2538
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,719
can actually have this on the agenda

2539
01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:47,119
this

2540
01:38:47,119 --> 01:39:00,870
is the 23rd of september

2541
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:06,310
if the board

2542
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,880
votes to to approve

2543
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,910
then directs

2544
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,199
you fred to do the resolution

2545
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:22,480
is that acceptable yes that's uh

2546
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:23,600
essentially i thought that's what we

2547
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,639
were talking about yeah because i i

2548
01:39:26,639 --> 01:39:30,550
think i i

2549
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:40,800
you know i think that's where we are

2550
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,800
uh i'd like to hear from from the board

2551
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:54,400
you know um

2552
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,040
before i make my comments i'd like to

2553
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:57,760
hear

2554
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:03,430
from the board i'd like for us to really

2555
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:06,639
make our decision uh that's

2556
01:40:06,639 --> 01:40:14,070
what i had hoped to do tonight

2557
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,199
and i think we need to uh

2558
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:20,480
we need to do that so

2559
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:27,109
moving forward special exception

2560
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:30,239
uh jody hunsar here um the reasons given

2561
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:33,280
seem to fit with the requirements and i

2562
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,520
support moving forward with the special

2563
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:43,430
exemption

2564
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:46,880
dan i agree

2565
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,280
i think they they meet the requirements

2566
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,400
and i think it's a great looking plan i

2567
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,440
think it makes sense in every way

2568
01:40:55,440 --> 01:40:58,639
david i agree

2569
01:40:58,639 --> 01:41:06,480
uh we have a recommendation from the planning and zoning commission that

2570
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:07,520
it be approved

2571
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,840
and uh i think the uh

2572
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,870
stakeholders support it and

2573
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,400
ron has made a great uh presentation

2574
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:26,149
so i'm i'm in full agreement

2575
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,350
jody

2576
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:35,430
yes in agreement

2577
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:38,800
okay um

2578
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:43,830
that special looks

2579
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:47,520
moving now to the variance

2580
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,950
madam chair

2581
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,440
do you are we gonna formally vote or are

2582
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,440
we just discussing right now

2583
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:57,199
yeah we're discussing that we're

2584
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:04,870
following your recommendation okay i see

2585
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,920
are we i do have a question dars are we

2586
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,320
is the public still with us are we in

2587
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,360
this meeting by ourselves or

2588
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:19,189
just out of curiosity

2589
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:21,199
yes i i can tell you there's 25

2590
01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:22,880
participants to the call

2591
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,440
um and unmuted unless they've muted

2592
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:26,840
themselves

2593
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:34,390
okay

2594
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:40,400
dan was that a an issue no i just wasn't i haven't done this

2595
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:41,760
before so i wasn't sure

2596
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,239
what at what stage we were i guess

2597
01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:45,760
that's what i'm saying whether it was

2598
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:46,800
our

2599
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,800
meeting together to just make the

2600
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,229
decision or or what

2601
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:54,719
okay we've gone through the again

2602
01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:56,400
special exception what about the

2603
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,880
variance

2604
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,560
uh jody hunsar speaking again it seems

2605
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,080
that all conditions are

2606
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,960
satisfied um i i believe it's in the

2607
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,830
interest of the board to vote this

2608
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,880
forward

2609
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,639
david ferguson here i agree

2610
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:18,790
i believe it should be approved

2611
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:27,109
and this is jan rutkay and i i concur

2612
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:31,590
okay with with that uh

2613
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,800
is fred still with us yes i am mountain

2614
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,840
chair

2615
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:41,669
um

2616
01:43:41,679 --> 01:43:44,950
based on

2617
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:51,030
the feelings of the award

2618
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,680
i'm requesting that you prepare

2619
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:54,960
[Music]

2620
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,560
a resolution madam chair i think you

2621
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,199
need to take a formal vote of the board

2622
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:03,440
and i would suggest that you entertain a

2623
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:04,320
motion

2624
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,520
from a member of the board to direct

2625
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,440
the attorney to prepare a resolution

2626
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:15,440
that uh grants these requested special

2627
01:44:15,440 --> 01:44:16,159
exception

2628
01:44:16,159 --> 01:44:20,480
and the requested variance

2629
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:22,990
all right we'll do the formal vote um

2630
01:44:22,990 --> 01:44:24,480
[Music]

2631
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:32,229
as you're indicated about

2632
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:36,000
the first vote would be on these

2633
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:46,870
special exceptions

2634
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,800
jam i vote yes

2635
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:55,440
to approve david ferguson

2636
01:44:55,440 --> 01:45:00,229
i vote yes approve

2637
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:16,639
jody holmster yes

2638
01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:19,520
and that motion included uh specif

2639
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,040
specifying that uh

2640
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,280
fred sussman would write the opinion a

2641
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,360
resolution right

2642
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,840
just for the record make it clear yes

2643
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:42,830
okay uh

2644
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,910
variant

2645
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,910
i vote to approve

2646
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:57,750
david ferguson i vote to approve

2647
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:10,830
jody i vote to approve

2648
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:18,070
okay

2649
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,880
fred what do we need from you now or to

2650
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,080
give you

2651
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,639
nothing madam chair i've been here i've

2652
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:26,000
read all the materials i

2653
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,159
have them and i have on my note from

2654
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:29,280
tonight's hearing

2655
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,400
so i have enough uh to prepare a

2656
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,080
uh resolution for you madam chair did

2657
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:36,800
you vote

2658
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,400
on either of the two motions no

2659
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:45,270
okay

2660
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,159
so i think that would conclude uh the

2661
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:50,080
business of the board on

2662
01:46:50,080 --> 01:47:03,750
the application yeah

2663
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,600
thank you very much for your time and

2664
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,280
your evening appreciate everybody's

2665
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,159
attention

2666
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:11,040
and care for the project well thank you

2667
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,560
i mean i can't you know

2668
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:17,430
you all done a wonderful job

2669
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,440
thank you all thank you for taking the

2670
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:21,760
time to hear our presentation

2671
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,510
we're excited about the project

2672
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:30,550
it's an exciting project

2673
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,800
thank you dr spencer thank you holly

2674
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,080
thank you all the board members

2675
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,320
appreciate your time and effort you're

2676
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:40,629
welcome

2677
01:47:40,639 --> 01:47:48,229
the meeting is adjourned

2678
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:51,840
thank you