1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,399 that's ready to get started um 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 this uh for this will be um my name is 3 00:00:06,399 --> 00:00:11,519 jody hunstar and this will be 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,480 my uh first go of trying to uh chair the 5 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:15,679 board of appeals 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,880 so i'm going to ask uh uh the 7 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,520 the um town council to feel free to 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,720 chime in 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:26,480 if i am uh doing something out of order 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,720 um but uh let's see i guess we'll 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,320 we'll kick this uh this meeting off for 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:34,239 the board of appeals on 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,880 april 27th um i believe we start with a 14 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:37,040 uh 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 called order and a roll call so i will 16 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,680 check 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,399 it looks like i'm seeing people pop on 18 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,079 here so hopefully they're uh 19 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,760 they can hear me um but i guess we'll 20 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,520 just start with uh 21 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,000 uh mr david ferguson are you in 22 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,000 attendance 23 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,199 i see you talking uh you're muted by 24 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,199 them 25 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:02,640 david unmute yourself okay 26 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:05,280 there we go i i am here hi mr perkins um 27 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,840 uh we'll pop over and see i see paul 28 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,200 dougherty 29 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:12,640 on here he might not have mike 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,479 i'm present okay all good uh last one 31 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,280 is kelly stewart do we have kelly 32 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:17,280 stewart in attendance 33 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:22,240 hearing none um i believe we have a 34 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:26,720 quorum and can 35 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:30,200 uh ken move on um 36 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:33,920 so the first case on the docket is 37 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:37,520 2021-1 by uh mr colin wana 38 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:40,560 um of 8736 bayside road uh requesting a 39 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,119 variance to section 290 19a 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,759 uh of the zoning code to allow a new 41 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:46,159 house 42 00:01:43,759 --> 00:01:47,280 uh to encroach into the uh eight foot 43 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,520 psi yard 44 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,200 so i think uh if my understanding is 45 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,240 correct i'll pass it off to mr 46 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:57,280 wanna or his representative to 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,920 discuss mr chairman 48 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,880 before you go there according to the 49 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,240 procedures 50 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,799 and the order of presentation uh first 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,840 you need to incorporate the file and the 52 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:10,560 record 53 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,160 provided by staff into the into the 54 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,800 record of the hearing tonight 55 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,920 which essentially should be the 56 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,080 application 57 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:23,200 and i think uh the staff is 58 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,319 showing on the screen you know what is 59 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,120 part of the materials it looks like 60 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:29,680 for this particular application there 61 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,280 are 62 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,400 25 pages of materials 63 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:39,680 and i i believe that staff 64 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:42,879 also has uh some confirmation 65 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,760 of that the required advertising posting 66 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:46,400 and mailing 67 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,959 of this uh hearing relating to this 68 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,599 hearing 69 00:02:46,959 --> 00:02:51,519 have been successfully uh complied with 70 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:54,720 uh you may want to ask 71 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:55,760 staff to confirm that okay i'll pass it 72 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,400 over to um 73 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:03,680 to sharon if that is indeed the case 74 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,159 yes notification was public for three 75 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:09,280 consecutive weeks beginning april 9th 76 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:12,159 uh in the calvert recorder on march 77 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,400 30th 2021 the planning and zoning was 78 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:17,040 notified of the hearing 79 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,239 notification was sent registered mail to 80 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,879 applicant on 81 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:22,159 march 30th and adjoining property owners 82 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:24,720 on april 9 83 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:27,599 and the property was posted on april 9 84 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,599 2021 85 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,840 thank you 86 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:38,560 um so within the uh sharon what was the 87 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,599 date of the posting 88 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,040 posting was april 9th okay 89 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:47,840 i thought that's what you said thank you 90 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,840 very much 91 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:53,840 okay uh should we go to the petitioner 92 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:57,280 or does this go to the uh 93 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,239 staff uh report from mr jacobian 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,519 go to the petitioner first okay uh 95 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:05,920 passing it over 96 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:09,680 um to mr wunup or his representative 97 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:13,200 yes uh can you hear me yes 98 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,319 oh great uh well first i'd just like to 99 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,519 thank you jody 100 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:20,479 and the rest of the board for your time 101 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,359 and uh thank you to sharon hum and chris 102 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:24,000 jacobiak 103 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:25,680 for guiding me through this application 104 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,960 process 105 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,919 my name is colin wanna and 106 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,120 my wife natalie wanap and i bought our 107 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:36,560 house 108 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:39,759 in chesapeake beach three years ago 109 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,440 i worked for the fda in silver spring 110 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,120 and she works for a digital marketing 111 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,320 company in 112 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:49,360 baltimore the house we purchased on 113 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,560 bayside road is in the most northern 114 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:56,720 neighborhood of chesapeake beach 115 00:04:52,560 --> 00:05:00,080 our house is one of those cottage style 116 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,240 beach houses we love the town and want 117 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,000 to start a family 118 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:09,680 but our home is only one bedroom 119 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,960 and houses of one bedroom can't 120 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,520 really accommodate children so 121 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,639 our plan is to add an additional two 122 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,759 bedrooms 123 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:21,840 to the back of the house currently in 124 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:25,120 the back of the house there is a 125 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:28,560 a deck and we want to replace that deck 126 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:32,639 with this edition 127 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:35,759 so just to be clear this would continue 128 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:38,479 the existing profile of the house 129 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:39,280 straight back we wouldn't be changing 130 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:42,000 anything 131 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:43,840 to the front of the house or the sides 132 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,360 or the top 133 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:50,880 and in order to do this i need approval 134 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,840 from the board because of chesapeake 135 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,440 beach code 136 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:58,560 29019 requires 137 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:03,120 an eight feet setback 138 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:05,600 for additions and 139 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,400 this addition that i would be adding 140 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,520 would not be 141 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,160 encroaching any closer to the property 142 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,600 line 143 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,440 it would just be extending the perimeter 144 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,840 of the house 145 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,680 towards the back by an additional 14 and 146 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:22,639 a half feet 147 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,360 now both my next door neighbors have 148 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:26,479 signed 149 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,039 letters of support uh for for me and my 150 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:30,240 wife 151 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:32,720 they do support us on this project i've 152 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,280 also shared the plans with chris 153 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,560 and he has reviewed them and says that 154 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,720 everything 155 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,000 should check out if if the board does 156 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,360 approve 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,319 so at this point i'd be happy to 158 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,000 elaborate 159 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:51,280 on any of the details that i've provided 160 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,080 so far or um to answer questions from 161 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:54,080 from those of you 162 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:59,360 all right thank you um i think we can 163 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:02,319 hold the questions 164 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,240 uh for the moment and pass it over to mr 165 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:06,080 takubiak for his 166 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 staff presentation at which point will 167 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,520 take 168 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,599 additional testimony or opposition if 169 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,599 any exists 170 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:14,880 thank you mr chairman and welcome to the 171 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:18,800 board of appeals 172 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:22,720 thank you so far so good um 173 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:25,199 yes i i like to 174 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,240 thank um the applicant has been very 175 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:28,080 helpful and 176 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,440 responsive and provided in a really 177 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,950 accident excellent 178 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,479 application 179 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:34,720 [Music] 180 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:37,440 in anticipation of obtaining his zoning 181 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,960 permit what you'll need 182 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,360 the this lot is uh 183 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,400 quite small it's so it is one of the 184 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,240 cottage houses 185 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,160 it's also one of the very small lots 186 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,840 it's a 3 000 187 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,280 square foot lot the minimum lot size in 188 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,479 the zone is 6 000 189 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,280 square feet so it's got a small lot it's 190 00:07:56,479 --> 00:08:00,639 um 191 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,639 only 30 feet wide 192 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,680 the standard or minimum lot size in the 193 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:10,479 zoning district 194 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:13,199 is 50. so the applicant is 195 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:13,840 building on a constrained lot to begin 196 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,879 with 197 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:20,080 uh and he is accurate in describing that 198 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:21,199 the proposed edition would come no 199 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,120 closer 200 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:24,800 to the side lot line than it currently 201 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,919 does and it would be 202 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,960 5.2 feet away from the 203 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:32,719 side lot line uh 204 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,560 as you know you might have seen the 205 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:37,039 staff report there are 206 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:38,000 a number of conditions that the board 207 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,760 has to 208 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:45,279 find have been established 209 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,760 and i'll just just by way of introducing 210 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:50,000 each of the conditions just 211 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,120 maybe offer some observations about each 212 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,920 one 213 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,880 certainly i'm here if you have any need 214 00:08:53,920 --> 00:09:00,480 for deliberations or need more facts 215 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,760 uh to support a decision the first 216 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,760 standard speaks to 217 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,800 a harmonious type of project 218 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240 with respect to the neighborhood the 219 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,920 granting of the variants will 220 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,240 shall be in harmony with the general 221 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,399 purpose and intent of this chapter 222 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,600 and shall not be injurious to the 223 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:19,760 neighborhood 224 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,920 or otherwise detrimental to the public 225 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,399 welfare 226 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,560 and i always share with you based on a 227 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:29,360 lot of experience in in town that 228 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:31,040 this project is uh in keeping with the 229 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,080 pattern that has been established 230 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:37,279 uh not only in this neighborhood but in 231 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:40,800 all of the larger neighborhood uh from 232 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:43,120 maryland 260 north um 233 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:46,480 where the lots are relatively small and 234 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:49,920 additions do get built from time to time 235 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,600 and do require variances um the property 236 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,800 is in the critical area 237 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:58,240 um as uh the applicant mentioned though 238 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,240 this um 239 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,880 this uh addition would be built over 240 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,480 existing development on the lot the 241 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,360 existing um deck 242 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,079 it may create some additional impervious 243 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,279 surface 244 00:10:10,079 --> 00:10:13,839 when when all said and done um and if it 245 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,440 does 246 00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:17,680 there will be some critical area 247 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,480 mitigation that's necessary to deal with 248 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,440 the potential 249 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,320 impact of added water flowing off the 250 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,320 property 251 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,680 but that is typical for all development 252 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 projects in the critical 253 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:29,440 area and this is not the most intensive 254 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,680 or the most 255 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,519 restrictive part of the critical area 256 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:36,959 it's actually called the ida 257 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:39,760 the intensive development area and 258 00:10:36,959 --> 00:10:41,519 it really anticipates uh an urban type 259 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,800 of development 260 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:45,120 in keeping with the pattern of the 261 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,480 neighborhood the second one is that the 262 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,920 granting of the variants would not 263 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,800 permit the existence 264 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,839 within the district of any use which is 265 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,640 not permitted 266 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:56,640 in that district uh and clearly the 267 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,040 applicant is just expanding 268 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,399 his proposed or his house and he's not 269 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,160 changing the use 270 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,760 as it turns out this property is 271 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,040 actually zoned uh 272 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,480 commercial um and it's essentially a 273 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,839 non-conforming use 274 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,560 within the commercial zone 275 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:15,200 but the expansion is not uh greater than 276 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:16,880 50 277 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,880 of the total floor area it's an 278 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,160 allowable expansion within the 279 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:25,279 commercial zoning district 280 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,720 um three that there are special 281 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,279 circumstances or conditions 282 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,000 described in the findings applying to 283 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:34,160 the land 284 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,839 or the buildings for which the variance 285 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,360 is sought 286 00:11:35,839 --> 00:11:42,800 which conditions are peculiar to the 287 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:45,680 land or buildings and do not apply 288 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,600 generally to land or buildings in the 289 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,839 neighborhood 290 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,240 and that said conditions or 291 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:54,480 circumstances are such that 292 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,360 strict interpretation of the chapter 293 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,639 would deprive 294 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,279 the applicant of reasonable use of the 295 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:01,839 land 296 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:01,839 or building 297 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,320 this is in many ways often a hard 298 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,279 standard to 299 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,040 meet within chesapeake beach where there 300 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:15,279 is a pattern of smaller 301 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:17,839 non-conforming lots like we have here 302 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:20,800 um but the applicant's house is already 303 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:23,279 located 5.2 feet from the sidelot line 304 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,959 and this you know this actual dimension 305 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:27,839 is not one that is generally 306 00:12:24,959 --> 00:12:28,320 found within the commercial district 307 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:30,079 though 308 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,360 it is a pattern within the neighborhood 309 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:34,800 that 310 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:37,839 the required eight feet 311 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,680 is not met the required eight foot side 312 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:43,120 yard is not typically met 313 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:44,399 on these 30 foot lots so uh strictly 314 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 applying the eight foot 315 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:47,600 required setback would require the 316 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,920 applicant to 317 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,120 adjust the addition somewhat it would 318 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,240 effectively require 319 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:57,279 that the addition jog in us 320 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:02,079 a couple feet to make that 321 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:02,079 um eight foot separation work 322 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:07,920 so that's something for the the board to 323 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,760 consider 324 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:15,360 um this would effectively mean that the 325 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:19,519 the the wall 326 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:22,880 uh facing the lot line would um 327 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:25,920 would jog just slightly uh 328 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,839 off of the main profile of the building 329 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,959 for that there exists unnecessary 330 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:32,399 hardship uh 331 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:34,560 in other words the applicant in light of 332 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:37,920 the conditions of the land and the lot 333 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:39,040 wouldn't be able to do something that a 334 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,440 reasonable 335 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,199 applicant should be able to do under the 336 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:47,199 zoning laws 337 00:13:43,199 --> 00:13:49,279 and therefore suffer a hardship 338 00:13:47,199 --> 00:13:51,120 if the hardship is general that is 339 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:51,839 shared generally by land or buildings in 340 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 the neighborhood 341 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:56,079 then the relief shall be properly 342 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,399 obtained only by legislative action 343 00:13:56,079 --> 00:14:00,560 or by court review or attack on the 344 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:03,680 validity of the ordinance 345 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:04,079 uh that's quite a um a burden to put on 346 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,240 any 347 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:08,000 individual applicant and the planning in 348 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,880 the the board of appeals is typically 349 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,920 found that 350 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:16,079 uh when there are non-conforming lots 351 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:19,839 and additions that are reasonable that 352 00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:19,839 this standard is is met 353 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,279 there are as you know within this part 354 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,959 of town a lot of 355 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,480 properties that are small there are a 356 00:14:26,959 --> 00:14:32,880 lot of buildings that 357 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:36,240 uh are not conforming 358 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,480 to the setback requirements all of them 359 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,360 are different on some level but there 360 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,480 are many 361 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,079 lots in this category five the granting 362 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,480 the variance is necessary for the 363 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:48,480 reasonable use of the land or building 364 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,560 and that the variance as granted by the 365 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,199 board is the minimum 366 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,199 variance that will accomplish this 367 00:14:53,199 --> 00:14:58,320 purpose 368 00:14:55,199 --> 00:15:01,360 so the question is 369 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,959 can the applicant persuade you that 370 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:09,839 he needs all 5.2 371 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:09,839 feet or 372 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,440 in order to build the the addition uh 373 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:17,279 that's being proposed or i should say 374 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,000 the 2.8 feet of 375 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:22,000 encroachment into the setback does he 376 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:26,480 really need that or can 377 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:31,199 the addition work while 378 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:34,399 the full 8 feet is provided 379 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:37,279 and for that answer you may want to 380 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:38,160 question the applicant about his floor 381 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:40,800 plans and 382 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,839 the design of his project so that you 383 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,759 could understand 384 00:15:41,839 --> 00:15:47,279 the what in construction terms is 385 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:49,920 actually happening there 386 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:50,720 uh sometimes we hear or we see we apply 387 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,800 the standard 388 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,000 standard and we try to apply it strictly 389 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,680 and we've realized that 390 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,120 there's no way you can build half a 391 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,959 bathroom or 392 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,959 you can't take three feet off of a 393 00:16:00,959 --> 00:16:04,720 small bedroom because all of a sudden 394 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:07,440 you've eliminated a closet 395 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,360 and so when you start looking at these 396 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:14,160 things in practical terms 397 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:16,079 uh the the um there's a lot more clarity 398 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,759 so so those are the standards there's 399 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,480 five of them that generally you have to 400 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:22,160 meet 401 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,759 that an applicant has to meet and um 402 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,720 as the hearing goes on if you have any 403 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:28,880 questions uh please let me know 404 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,079 uh thank you mr kubiak is there any 405 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,320 recommendation you 406 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:33,360 or planning and zoning in general would 407 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,079 like to make 408 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,279 at this point i would recommend approval 409 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:39,759 of this application 410 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:41,199 since you've asked thank you and for 411 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:43,680 many of the reasons i mentioned 412 00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:45,360 i i think it does on balance comply with 413 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,120 the standards 414 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,600 thank you um i believe at this point we 415 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,800 uh 416 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,800 is there anything you'd like to add on 417 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:57,360 to that uh mr one up at this time 418 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,079 no no and and once again i just want to 419 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,000 thank 420 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:05,360 uh chris and the rest of the board here 421 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:08,160 for uh your time and to sharon 422 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:10,400 uh i've you know everyone's been really 423 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:14,079 helpful in this process and uh 424 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,640 i i can't recommend uh them enough it's 425 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:18,480 been 426 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:22,319 a delight working with them 427 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,520 um at this uh at this point uh i believe 428 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:26,160 i believe we had some 429 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,480 documents entered into the record from 430 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,440 your neighbors who are proponents of 431 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,080 your proposal um is there anyone else 432 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,600 who would like to 433 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:39,520 speak at this time either as a proponent 434 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:41,760 for um mr juana if you do please 435 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:47,840 state your name and address and uh 436 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,840 you're speaking on your own behalf 437 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,960 uh hearing none um are there any 438 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,160 is there anybody who is standing in 439 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:01,840 opposition to 440 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,840 the plans presented here 441 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,520 hearing none um mr sussman is this am i 442 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,480 correct in that this is the point in 443 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,400 time where we go 444 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:15,919 on to question and answer from the board 445 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,400 yes thank you sure um i will pass it 446 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:20,240 over 447 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:22,000 to um either mr doherty or mr ferguson 448 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,960 for any follow-up questions 449 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,840 or uh anything in general you'd like to 450 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,440 uh to address 451 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,320 the attendees here this is david 452 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,799 ferguson 453 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:36,160 um i and just looking at a map that 454 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:39,919 looks like 455 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:43,280 the adjoining property on the side where 456 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:47,600 we're asking for the waiver is a vacant 457 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,600 lot or parking lot is that correct 458 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,360 uh that that is correct yes uh but there 459 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,480 is a house 460 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,280 that is uh a little bit back uh further 461 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,039 so 462 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,480 um i'm sure you're probably familiar 463 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:02,160 with uh 464 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,799 neptune's neptune's across street has 465 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,840 this 466 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:09,039 a parking lot there and 467 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:12,480 um the owner bill he 468 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:15,039 he owns that lot and yeah he has 469 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,240 he he he has signed saying that he 470 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:19,679 endorses 471 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:22,880 um this this project yeah 472 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:26,480 that was my point is it uh 473 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:29,440 you know a 2.7 foot 474 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,799 encroachment or a parking lot isn't 475 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,840 really crowding a lot 476 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:35,280 uh and especially since the existing 477 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,720 house and the 478 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:43,039 the block shed are at that same 479 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:45,840 line um you know it it 480 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:46,960 doesn't seem to me that this is much of 481 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,840 an imposition 482 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:54,799 from the uh from the setback uh 483 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:59,200 perspective um the uh 484 00:19:54,799 --> 00:20:02,159 you know potential uh 485 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,679 you know mitigation of uh you know being 486 00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:06,799 in the critical area 487 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:09,919 of you know the improved 488 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:11,200 area you know might be something that 489 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:14,640 you'll have to work 490 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:17,919 with the talent on but uh 491 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:20,960 that that was my observation is that 492 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:25,039 you know you're not building 493 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:28,080 um five feet from another structure uh 494 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:31,360 there's right yeah 495 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:34,080 okay thank you yeah thank you for that 496 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:35,760 mr chairman can i weigh in on that 497 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,559 answer a little bit or just please do 498 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,000 thank you um 499 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:42,880 just factually um 500 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 the the 501 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:49,840 the area that um 502 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,640 um um 503 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,159 never mind i think yeah what i guess 504 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,799 what i would say is that the 505 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:02,000 variance encroaches onto the south side 506 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:06,000 as well 507 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,200 of the lot right so it's it's a 508 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,200 variant flies there 509 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,840 correct yeah so like my name my neighbor 510 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:17,760 to the south 511 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:20,799 um 512 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:24,720 because it's a 30-foot 513 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:28,840 wide lot and the house is 22 and a half 514 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:32,080 feet uh on both sides it does 515 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,880 um it does fall into that eight feet 516 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,159 setback 517 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,080 uh however as as as we've discussed 518 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:40,480 you know this would would be continuing 519 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:44,080 the existing profile of the house 520 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:47,360 uh and and um you know wouldn't be 521 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,840 encroaching further and um as i've 522 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:51,280 mentioned 523 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,880 both of those neighbors have um 524 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,480 you know you know signed letters of 525 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,000 support um 526 00:21:54,480 --> 00:22:01,600 so i i know it wouldn't be an issue 527 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,600 with with those owners 528 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,640 thank you very good 529 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,520 is there anything else the board would 530 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,840 like to uh question 531 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840 at this time 532 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,280 okay uh hearing none um 533 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:24,480 yes go ahead i was gonna say there's the 534 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,600 opportunity 535 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:30,000 for uh the applicant to make any 536 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,000 summary statements or closing remarks as 537 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,480 well as for mr jakubiak 538 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,600 if either of them care to add anything 539 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,600 to what's already been said 540 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 i mean i would i would just echo my uh 541 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:45,679 thank you 542 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,679 to to those who have helped me 543 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:52,320 thank you um okay at this point i will 544 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,080 open it up for any 545 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,400 uh any more public statements on the 546 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,400 matter 547 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:02,240 hearing none um i believe that that is 548 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:05,360 the close 549 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:09,360 of the public hearing and do i hear 550 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:12,320 a motion made to begin deliberations on 551 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,320 this particular case 552 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,200 uh this is dave ferguson uh so moved 553 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:23,520 uh second anybody i will suck at that 554 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,280 thank you uh in that case uh public 555 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,360 comment is closed 556 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,559 um the board can begin discussion as 557 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,440 they see fit 558 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:31,440 the floor is open 559 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,640 mr chairman uh before the board 560 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:40,640 begins deliberation just to reiterate 561 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,159 the protocol that we've established in 562 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,840 prior hearings 563 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:47,440 once the board decides conceptually 564 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,559 what position i want to take on the 565 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:54,000 application typically the board will 566 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:56,880 request that i prepare a resolution 567 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,240 to embody the board decision and that 568 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,400 will be provided 569 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600 back to you for review and formal 570 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,840 approval 571 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,840 sounds good thank you 572 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,640 okay i'll i'll chime in and i want to 573 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,240 thank 574 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,039 mr jacobiak for an excellent 575 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,840 staff report on this he's addressed all 576 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:25,039 of the five 577 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:28,080 conditions that must be met in order to 578 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:31,440 grant a variance and uh 579 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,240 from my perspective the application does 580 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,600 satisfy 581 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:39,200 those five conditions so uh 582 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:41,760 i'm inclined to support the the variance 583 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,760 request 584 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,480 thank you is there anything you'd like 585 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,200 to uh add to this mr dougherty 586 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,480 uh my thinking is along the same lines 587 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,360 as david 588 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,760 uh i want to thank chris for that that 589 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,080 uh 590 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,039 staff report because that did help me a 591 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,760 lot 592 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:04,320 this being my first hearing in coming to 593 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320 a decision 594 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:14,720 okay uh i think we can skip to the um 595 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,880 uh the the voting if we'd like to um mr 596 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,080 ferguson how do you do you find that the 597 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,200 standards have been 598 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:24,240 met in this particular case i do 599 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,039 indeed and i vote to approve okay thank 600 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,080 you 601 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:31,200 mr dougherty i also vote to approve 602 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,159 okay uh then with uh quorum we are 603 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,200 approved 604 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:37,919 um would the town council like to 605 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,200 oh staff council like to add anything at 606 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:43,840 this point in terms of 607 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,840 advice or the drafting of a resolution 608 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,000 now mr chairman i will prepare a draft 609 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,480 resolution 610 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,120 for the board to consider i do think 611 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,279 that 612 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:55,200 the grants of the variants want to be 613 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:58,240 tied to 614 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,679 compliance with the 615 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,880 layout of the plans that have been 616 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:05,360 presented as part of the application 617 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,240 sounds reasonable are there any 618 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,880 objections from 619 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,880 board members 620 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:16,640 no objections okay then i believe that 621 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:20,000 uh concludes our first um 622 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:23,840 first report of the night um 623 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,240 that was the end of the 8736 bayside 624 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,240 road 625 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:31,200 variance request we will be moving on 626 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,400 now 627 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:38,400 to 39 10. let me get this right 628 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:41,679 um 3910 27th street from 629 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:45,200 ron and sherry martin um 630 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:47,520 and we have already gone through the um 631 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,120 the journey of the starting this meeting 632 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,400 um so i 633 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:55,200 will pass it up apologies let me back up 634 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,039 um uh sharon would you like to say 635 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,440 anything about the 636 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,159 um files that have been provided to the 637 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,200 town 638 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:06,880 and how long uh the public 639 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:09,840 notice has been available yes 640 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,360 a notification was published for three 641 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679 consecutive weeks beginning 642 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,799 april 9th in the catholic recorder 643 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:21,840 newspaper 644 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:21,840 on march 30 2021 the planning and zoning 645 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,399 and adjoining property owners on april 646 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,799 9th 647 00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:32,559 the property was posted on april 9th 648 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,480 2021 649 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:37,679 hi sharon can you go through that again 650 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:42,240 because we've lost you midway 651 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:43,200 oh um well notification was public for 652 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,440 three consecutive 653 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,360 weeks beginning april 9th in the calvary 654 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,159 corridor newspaper 655 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,559 on march 30th 2021 the planning and 656 00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:55,279 zoning was notified of the hearing 657 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,000 notification was sent registered mail to 658 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,799 applicant 659 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,559 on march 30th and adjoining property 660 00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:03,039 owners on april 9 661 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:05,600 and the property was posted on april 9 662 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:08,240 2021 663 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240 thank you sharon 664 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,640 and mr chairman i think at this point 665 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,880 you also would want to 666 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,399 make a part of the record the 667 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,559 application and other 668 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,600 materials case materials that have been 669 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,399 submitted 670 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,240 that's right the the formal 671 00:28:22,399 --> 00:28:25,360 documentation provided to the town is 672 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:30,080 entered into the 673 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:31,120 record and now i will pass it over to 674 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520 the petitioner 675 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,679 um ron and sherry martin or their 676 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,159 representatives to discuss 677 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:40,000 um their request for variance to section 678 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:43,440 290 19a 679 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,440 of the zoning ordinance okay 680 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,120 well thank you everyone for being here i 681 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,600 appreciate all your help 682 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,399 and um on behalf on behalf of my husband 683 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,880 and i 684 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:54,159 um we look forward to working with you 685 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,760 in the future 686 00:28:54,159 --> 00:29:01,840 um we purchased our home here 687 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,360 in chesapeake beach in december of 2019. 688 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880 my husband and i both retired from 689 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240 california i'm a retired teacher he's 690 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,000 retired nurse 691 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,679 and we have a lot of family here in 692 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,279 chesapeake beach in fact my father lives 693 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:14,399 just right here on the street with me 694 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,520 right up on 27th um 695 00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:19,600 and we bought the home um we we love our 696 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,200 neighborhood we love our neighbors um 697 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,200 and we love absolutely everything about 698 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:26,080 this town so this is where we are 699 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,200 expecting to spend the next 60 years 700 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,200 here in chesapeake beach 701 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,960 our what we're hoping to do is to go 702 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:36,320 up in our second store we have a small 703 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,399 dormer and we'd like to go 704 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,120 up and add a master bedroom 705 00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:46,240 and a another bathroom upstairs we 706 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,399 currently have a two bedroom one bath 707 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,399 and um one bathroom is kind of difficult 708 00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:52,080 for just the two of us but we have 709 00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:53,919 elderly parents who will be visiting 710 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600 often hopefully from california who will 711 00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:58,480 come and stay with us probably 712 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,000 about six months each year and so we're 713 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760 hoping to make our house a little more 714 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,159 spacious for them 715 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960 we're also doing a lot of improvements 716 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:06,960 to our home 717 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,000 we're replacing all the electrical the 718 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,799 plumbing adding 719 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,279 hvac just really want to make the home 720 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,520 very 721 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,399 sound and safe and comfortable because 722 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,399 we don't plan on 723 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:20,960 on moving our house as you know 724 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:22,000 sits unfortunately because it was built 725 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840 we believe in that we 726 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,520 believe it was built in the 1940s we're 727 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,720 not quite sure yet 728 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,200 um but our house sits just within about 729 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,080 two feet of our property line 730 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,000 um the addition we're making however is 731 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,000 not going to make any changes to this 732 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,720 setback whatsoever 733 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000 and we won't be encroaching any further 734 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,080 into the 735 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,440 towards the neighbor um we also 736 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,279 we are we are perfectly aware that we 737 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,240 are part of the critical area of the of 738 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,080 the town 739 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,600 but we aren't making any changes to the 740 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,720 front part of our home 741 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,880 so we won't be adding any um increase 742 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,840 to that impervious service which we know 743 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:05,600 is something that concerns us as well 744 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,519 um so that's where we're at 745 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,600 right now we've had our plans submitted 746 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:12,480 and approved but um 747 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,080 we realized that our house i'm sure the 748 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,760 house with the property 749 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,000 there wasn't the ordinance at the time 750 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,080 that the property was drawn back in and 751 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,720 this is in the 40s or whenever the 752 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,640 the fence was put there um but we are 753 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,559 very mindful we were very mindful when 754 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320 we did our plans to make sure that 755 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,519 we wanted to maintain the charm of our 756 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,039 home because we love the way the home 757 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:34,159 looks right now 758 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:36,000 um we also have a really great 759 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:37,440 relationship with our neighbors and so 760 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,120 it was really important to us to make 761 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080 sure that any changes we made to the 762 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,120 house 763 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360 um especially the house to the west of 764 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,519 us 765 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,399 the house at 3906 wanted and make sure 766 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,720 that 767 00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:50,799 we did not block any of the view that 768 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,200 that our neighbor joanne might have to 769 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:54,320 the 770 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,799 to the bay and um we we've spoken with 771 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,200 her and she actually took me upstairs 772 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,559 and um i was able i shared we shared the 773 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,799 plans with her and 774 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,679 i was able to see that by going up we 775 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,760 aren't actually 776 00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:07,200 decreasing any of the view that she has 777 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,919 out of the window she has up there 778 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 because 779 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:13,360 that mattered a lot to us as well um we 780 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,760 also consider that 781 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,559 we have recently um put in a garage and 782 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,039 so we had to 783 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:22,080 turn in a design to um where we were 784 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,640 going to put in 785 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,360 plants you know trees and bushes to 786 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,679 offset 787 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,000 the increase in adding our garage and 788 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:31,679 and designing our landscaping we also 789 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,200 considered that we wanted to make sure 790 00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:34,640 that anytime we plant anywhere we 791 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 planted a tree or 792 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,760 anything that we weren't we weren't 793 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,360 obstructing what little any view that 794 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,200 any of our neighbors might have 795 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,559 of the water because that was important 796 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,240 to us not just 797 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,000 not just impervious surface and 798 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640 maintaining that but that would be 799 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,960 considered 800 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,919 our neighbors so so we're hoping to go 801 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240 up um 802 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:54,000 and and increase you know add a bathroom 803 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,159 add another bedroom up there and make it 804 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,679 also make it safer 805 00:32:56,159 --> 00:33:02,080 and make it more useful um but also 806 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:04,000 um we do realize that we are you know 807 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,600 we're just already sitting our house is 808 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,840 already sitting where it's not supposed 809 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,600 to be 810 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200 so so that's where we're at so we're 811 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,840 hoping you'll consider that with us our 812 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,919 variants 813 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,519 thank you thank you uh i will pass it 814 00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:20,559 over to mr jacobiak 815 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:22,640 for a summary however much depth he'd 816 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,640 like to go into 817 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,720 of his staff report on this particular 818 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,000 project okay thank you 819 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,200 um the lot is 3910 820 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,679 27th street and the property is owned 821 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,840 residential village or village 822 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:40,960 residential 823 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,919 um the required setback is eight feet 824 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,360 right now there's um just one foot plus 825 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:47,360 or minus and 826 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,559 requested variance is essentially a 827 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,240 seven foot 828 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:54,720 uh variance then um this lot 829 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,559 is six thousand nine hundred square feet 830 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,600 uh in size 831 00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:01,279 uh according to the state department of 832 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,720 assessments and taxation 833 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:06,640 and and by the way um mrs martin they 834 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,240 the state also says that the house was 835 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,839 built in 1940 836 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,760 although i think that's kind of a plug 837 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:12,159 number they use for structures they 838 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,960 don't 839 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:16,560 quite know when we're built so uh you 840 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,200 know certainly in 1940s 841 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,079 is right uh in the ballpark and it's 842 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,919 about when the 843 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,679 middle subdivision was really starting 844 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:25,280 to fill in um 845 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,960 this is part of the middle subdivision 846 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,960 kind of middle between 847 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,440 this core of chesapeake beach and north 848 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,159 beach um 849 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,960 the construction activity will be 850 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,040 entirely 851 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560 vertical adding a second floor and you 852 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,839 saw on the staff report 853 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:45,679 members the applicants before or 854 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:50,399 existing and proposed home renderings 855 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:53,119 and um uh the 856 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:55,040 the same type of discussion of oh and 857 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:58,079 then i also showed the renderings 858 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,440 uh from the side profile too the side 859 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:02,960 that will face 860 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,440 the closest house which would be on the 861 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,920 west side 862 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,119 the applicants are not intending to 863 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,760 change the use of the property 864 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,599 a two-story house is certainly 865 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,400 harmonious in character with 866 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,680 this part of town certainly there's no 867 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,000 injury that's 868 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,440 as far as i can tell is being imposed on 869 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,720 any property owner or 870 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,720 on the neighborhood generally 871 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,760 the house is already located one foot 872 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:34,880 from the lot line 873 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:38,480 um and this is actually not as 874 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,640 typical typically found as uh 875 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,240 you might expect in the village a 876 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,880 residential village district where the 877 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,760 lots 878 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,359 are often a bit larger than the 3 000 879 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,839 square foot lot you might 880 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:50,720 sometimes see so this is truly a very 881 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:54,800 unique 882 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,800 situation and 883 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,040 the applicants would suffer a hardship 884 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,920 in that they would not be 885 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,119 able to build a second story on their 886 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,119 home 887 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:08,640 just by virtue of the fact of the 888 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,640 house's current location 889 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:12,720 so i in anticipation of your your 890 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,800 question mr uh 891 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,800 chairman i would say that i i would 892 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,560 recommend the approval of this variance 893 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,960 as well 894 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,960 thank you 895 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:30,240 okay at this point i will open 896 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:33,680 up the floor to any testimony 897 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:36,320 for proponents of this plan speaking 898 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,119 from the public if you do choose to 899 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,240 speak please 900 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,720 state your name address and 901 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:46,320 and who you represent if you're speaking 902 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,320 for someone else or on your own behalf 903 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,240 my name's annette taylor uh i live at 904 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,560 8310 905 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,320 bayside road uh we have several 906 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,160 neighbors here they can provide their 907 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,800 own names and addresses if you'd like 908 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,839 them to 909 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,680 um no all of us have seen the plans and 910 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:08,720 we think it would do nothing but enhance 911 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,640 the neighborhood the neighbor who 912 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,000 had an issue with the potential water 913 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,320 view is also here 914 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,960 and would be happy to talk about any of 915 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,960 that too but 916 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:26,000 thank you 917 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,280 okay uh are any other comments from 918 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,280 members of the public at this point 919 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:41,760 only excuse me mr chairman 920 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,480 yes uh did the person who just spoke uh 921 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,040 identified herself to the record yes 922 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,240 sorry it was on mute go ahead i'm sorry 923 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,440 here she is uh joanne mattingly 924 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:56,640 3906 27th street 925 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,800 and i am satisfied that my water view 926 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:05,839 will not be impacted 927 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:05,839 thank you 928 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,000 any others hello hello please take it 929 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040 away 930 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,400 hi um my name is chris calantonio and i 931 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,760 live across the street 932 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,640 at 39 11 27th street and we think the 933 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,680 plan's great 934 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,520 so we um are not opposing it 935 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,520 at all thank you 936 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,839 any further comments 937 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,280 hearing none i will move on to any 938 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,839 is there anyone who would like to speak 939 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,520 in opposition uh similarly if you do 940 00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:48,400 please announce your name address and 941 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,400 who you represent 942 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,320 okay hearing none we will move on is 943 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,520 there any 944 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:02,000 uh final follow-up questions 945 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,520 or final statements that the applicant 946 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,839 would like to make to the board at this 947 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,839 time 948 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,839 no i just thank you all for your time 949 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:13,359 thank you very much 950 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:16,720 thank you um okay 951 00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:20,000 at that um let's see 952 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:20,480 um so i believe we are coming to the end 953 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,520 of the 954 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,280 public hearing and are getting ready to 955 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,920 begin deliberations do i hear a motion 956 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:33,280 for the board to close public hearings 957 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,520 and begin deliberations on this case 958 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,119 i i will make a motion to close public 959 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,040 hearings 960 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:44,560 and i will second that motion thank you 961 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:48,079 okay public comments are closed um 962 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,440 i will open it to the board to begin 963 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:53,119 discussions 964 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,119 on any part of this plan they would like 965 00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:57,839 to 966 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:06,079 uh mr hoonstar having heard 967 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:09,440 testimony from neighbors who are 968 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:12,160 supporting the application and 969 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,520 having read mr jakubiak's staff report 970 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,920 which addresses 971 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,000 all of the five factors that we are 972 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,160 required to address 973 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,680 i have no questions or concerns with 974 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,920 this application 975 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,720 and i'm uh inclined to approve it 976 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,040 thank you is there anything you would 977 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,440 like to add at this time mr daugherty 978 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,359 uh again my thinking is along the same 979 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,520 lines as david 980 00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:39,680 i have no questions and comments and i 981 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,720 am inclined to approve it 982 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:45,440 thank you uh at that point i will close 983 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,160 discussions down and begin the official 984 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,720 vote 985 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,160 uh for this particular application uh mr 986 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,000 dougherty how do you find 987 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:57,760 uh i approve uh mr ferguson 988 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,760 likewise i approve all right the uh 989 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,240 we the board approves uh at this point 990 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,319 i'd like to ask mr sussman 991 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,280 uh to draft a resolution containing the 992 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:07,920 board's decision 993 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,119 um or i guess i should pause and ask if 994 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960 he has any 995 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:13,280 uh particulars he would like to add to 996 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,440 this uh this case at this point 997 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,400 now mr chairman other than the fact that 998 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560 as with the 999 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,000 prior application i think the grant of 1000 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,040 the approval should be tied 1001 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,040 to adhering to the plans that were 1002 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:29,119 submitted to the board 1003 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:31,359 thank you okay um that is the end 1004 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,400 of the official agenda for the board of 1005 00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:34,319 appeals 1006 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,839 uh is there anything else we would like 1007 00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:39,440 to take up at this time 1008 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:39,440 i'll open the floor up 1009 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,560 hearing none um i believe that is all 1010 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480 and 1011 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,880 as far as i know there is not another 1012 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,599 board of appeals meeting on the schedule 1013 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,119 sharon will send out official notice to 1014 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:58,319 board members and the public 1015 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:59,040 when one is needed and i thank you all 1016 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:02,000 for your time 1017 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,800 and for the staff and applicants for 1018 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,920 being here today 1019 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,800 thank you mr mr hoonster i 1020 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,160 just to get it officially i move that 1021 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,200 the meeting be adjourned 1022 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,240 ah yes thank you do i hear a second i 1023 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,160 will second that 1024 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,920 all right meeting is adjourned thank you 1025 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,680 everybody great thank you 1026 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,680 thank you good night everybody 1027 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,800 good night