all right uh thank you for everyone um
this is the board of appeals meeting uh
7 p.m september 8th of 2022
uh during uh today's meeting we're going
to start off
uh by nominating a chair and vice chair
for uh this board briefly um in which
case we'll move on to
case 2022-3
from michael beverly former of 3905 27th
street
concerning a side yard variance request
and we will finish up with a review
of the rules and procedures
for this board uh so as normal i would
like to start
uh with a roll call for who's attending
on behalf of the board
um my name is jody hoonstar uh as the
chair of the board and i'll just go down
the list and if you
uh mr burch here oh
uh mr dougherty here mr president
all right uh we have a quorum and on
hand our uh town clerk sharon hum
and uh legal counsel fred sussman uh at
this point i will pass it over
for any information concerning postings
and entries into the record
oh yeah we're gonna uh yeah i guess that
is part of the second so i guess i'll
hold off on that
um
so first uh first bit of order is to
nominate a board chair and vice chair
um does anyone have a
nominee they'd like to put forward for
either position
i'd like to make a nomination for mr
moon star
for chairman
second there thank you uh i guess we can
just go through and uh vote on that
um anyone anyone opposed
all right i will continue as chairman
for this board um and i would like to uh
nominate mr dougherty for the role of
vice chair do i have a second on that a
second there
uh and do we have any objections
all right um sir doherty uh is the vice
chair
of the board
now uh with that business done i assume
we don't need any paperwork
um i will now pass it over to sharon for
recording public postings
and then
the vice chair take over so i am uh
refusing myself as these are uh my
direct neighbors
uh for this particular case and handing
it over
all right um so i'd like to ask uh the
town clerk
um
if the uh
case has been read into the uh
uh
announced in the proper forms
proper uh
areas
yes um
the hearing was published in the
southern maryland newspaper on august
19th august 26 and september 2nd
editions
on august 5th
2022 the planning and zoning commission
was notified of said hearing with
application date and time
on august 4th
2022 the applicant and adjoining
property owners were sent by registered
mail notification of said hearing
and property 3905 27th street was posted
by public works
giving notice of time in place of public
hearing
all right thank you um
we are here to
discuss the case
uh 2022-3
consider an application from michael and
beverly fulmer
uh for of the real property known as
3905 27th street chesapeake beach
for variance to section 290-19a
of the
town code
by the construction um
of an addition on their house
which would be placed
three four three and a half feet into
the required
eight foot side yard on the west side of
the lot
for a variance of four and a half feet
and approximately four point eight feet
into the required eight foot side yard
on the east side of the lot
or variance of 3.2 feet
that is the case um
and are the petitioners here
ready to
uh present their case
yes
all right so at this point uh
um do i need a quote on that
on this point uh we'll accept the
application into the record
and now hear from the applicants
would you uh
state your name address
my name is michael former living at 496
old mill road millersville maryland two
one one zero eight
child's blind
living at 3106 barry road northeast
washington dc
if you both raise your right hands i'm
going to swear you in
do you both solemnly swear or affirm
under the penalties of perjury that the
testimony you were about to give and the
responses and statements you are about
to make will be the whole truth and
nothing but the truth
thank you
all right so the uh which uh
which person would like to get up and
speak at the podium
it doesn't matter you want to go special
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could you step up to the podium please
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good evening thank you for hearing now
case
the reason we're here for this verse
we had no idea
that the sidewalk
the side on the east side and west side
was in violation
when mike bought the house
it was there the structure when he
purchased that property
no one informed him
that he was in violation
and needed a verse we didn't learn
that we needed the burns until we
project the build extend the deck out
two and a half feet
and then we was uh we was under
impression that
why we need a variance when we're not
doing no work on the side
all our work is in the real
wish we learned later
that the deck was probably not
i didn't know
mike didn't know was no research that
told us
that the deck was
built
after the house was
constructed he learned that afterward
and this one of the reasons we hear
requests and environs to bring the
property and con
to it
with the um
the current status
so right now the way the house is
situated
um
there isn't an eight foot
on each side
where the house is sitting
um so basically we're looking to extend
the kitchen out and then add the deck
um
and we weren't
if it's a matter of us
changing the width of the deck then
you know we can certainly do that but we
would prefer to keep the dimensions
where they are
um
so that it's even with the house coming
out
so the main so the issue is the the deck
i'm reading right here um
it's going to be built out i said a
canyon effect right
yes they're gonna be built on the reel
what is the canon effect like
you break it down like what
what exactly is that
well what we're seeing here you have
copy this yeah i'm looking at right now
it says the canyon effect so there'd be
nothing on the sides is that what
nothing's going to be on this side okay
so there's no dividers so no no no
okay
my understanding was that you were
extending the house uh backwards by ten
feet or so
no we extended the house
back was
two additional fee plus today 10 foot a
deck
this will allow mike to have a larger
kitchen yeah we were looking for a
larger kitchen in the house
so we wanted to expand the back of the
house that additional amount was only a
couple of feet three feet something two
or three feet
and uh
that would provide us more room in the
kitchen so that's basically what we were
looking for there
and we'd like to keep that the same you
know the same width as the house
yes
yeah
ask the witnesses some questions they've
got to get a better feel for
what they're
actually proposing to do and how it
compares to the exhibits that we have
yes
okay
so
i ask that
you see this exhibit here this is the
the architectural renderings for the
project and it's the page it shows the
existing
right
rear or side elevation and the proposed
side elevation
and if you look at the top you see that
there are five windows towards the rear
two standard windows and two long thin
windows
then if you look at the bottom the
proposed you see the same pattern of
windows plus two more windows that
extend back
so can you draw a line
through this cross section of what is
new
what would be new on this new in this
elevation
this will renew
existing
right okay so are you telling us that
that is only two feet
no we're saying we're gonna extend this
part out back two feet today
and we're going close today
okay very good so what exists today is
where this new edition is going to be
built is a deck today
so you are in fact extending the house
rearward that's correct and then adding
a deck
for another 10 foot of depth
not another 10 foot we're just going
back to the same footprint as you see
right here this is 10 foot from the
house to the edge of the
edge of the deck
so that that this would give us
this would give us 10 foot on in our 12
foot
total
12 foot of new building space new
building space
yeah i uh thank you
what sheet are you on i'm one sheet
it's actually the same image that i
included
everything to the rear of that is new
construction
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almost where that roof
here's the line that he drew
everything to the rear of that is new
construction
so happens that where the new house
petition is proposed a deck exists today
yes that's it
so here's that line he drew everything
to the rear of that is new
completely
you got it
okay
but you did make the point i think that
a deck
exists in that space now or did
previously
it is is we're going back with the same
footprint we're not making it that in a
larger just moving it back
and we still will be worked in
compliance
of the real setback
we have approximately 35 foot
finale
all right do we have any other questions
the applicant
all right with that i'd like to pass it
to uh mr jakubiak for staff report okay
thank you um
so let me first
orient
everyone to the the property uh
on first and also there's a staff report
that i drafted dated september 2nd
2022 and i'd like to enter it into the
record
um
that's acceptable
we will enter that into the record that
report
this house on on uh 3905 according to
the state department of assessments and
taxation was built in 1945.
the lot is small it's a 3 000 square
foot lot it's one of the original
cottage lots
and that feel and character still
evident along 27th street and that kind
of pocket of town a lot of that fabric
of you know small lots little cottages
has changed over time but it still
remains of somewhat intact in that area
um the lot is 3 30 feet wide and 100
feet deep and on page 2 you can see the
subject property i put an arrow to it
there's an exhibit there
is hom is there an
extra copy of the staff report
i don't know that the applicants have a
copy they'll have a copy i want to make
sure they have copies oh thank you
thank you
um
please take note of the the original
platted lines in this part of the middle
subdivision that's what it was called uh
the subject properties of three thousand
square foot lot it's really the mirror
image of the
the two or three lots in that area it so
happens that the house to the right or
to the east side is built
on a combined six thousand square foot
lot the lots are the three thousand plus
three thousand combined to form one
large lot larger lot uh the other two
houses
uh are still on the original three
thousand
as is the house at the intersection of
the alley and 27th street that's your
standard 3000 square foot lot too
so that's a bit of a picture of the
neighborhood this zoning district is
called the residential village
the minimum lot size under current law
is 6 000 square feet so if you were
creating a new lot today it couldn't be
smaller than six thousand
the applicants have a situation that's
we call non-conforming the lots are
legal lots of record platted well before
the town ever had zoning ordinances
and the fact that the house sits
close to the side yard it doesn't make
it in violation i just want to correct
that it's not in violation it's just was
built before the code was adopted
violations happen when construction
takes place without the proper permits
or without the variances that are
necessary so we have an eight foot
setback required on each side yard
because of the small lot and the
existing house
it would be perhaps rather difficult to
get eight feet and how would you do that
well you'd have to
bump in the addition the addition would
have to step inward into the center of
the lot and and go back
uh and if you did that
that
addition could only be 14 feet wide and
i did a little math in this
memo and i messed up and for some reason
the end result was 12. but if you have
30 foot lot and 8 feet on both sides
that's 16 feet you end up with 14.
so the question for the board when we
review the criteria is is it a hardship
to have to
build a
an addition that is only 14 foot wide
that's a question that you may
have to seek
comments from the applicant about
i don't have evidence about that
i can't make a recommendation about
whether this constitutes a hardship or
not but but that's a issue for you to
grapple with clearly there's a physical
condition on this lot
that creates a need for a variance if
someone is going to build
an addition off their house right so
um the question for you is
uh
is it a reasonable proposal
in light of the requirements uh
does the
does the requirements strictly applied
create
uh hardship
uh and when i
face these situations before i often
think about
the interior space
i you know you you might say oh it's
perfectly fine just bump it in comply
with the law strictly have live with a
14 foot
wide addition
even though the house is 22 or 24 foot
but how does this space flow if this is
a bump out of the kitchen can you
actually
operate a kitchen that bumps out only a
portion of the
the width of it that's the kind of
questions you might want to
raise in
in applying these standards
so um
i'm jumping around a bit in my remember
on page three
there is the the the exhibit is shown
there the one that
the architect just drew the line on
and it confirms that in fact the
applicant is proposing to build new
house
addition new construction to the rear of
the lot in addition to a new deck
and it's
not material to me as the zoning
administrator that in the deck exists
existed on that site already this is a
new
construction
um
before we get into the standards i want
to describe a little bit else about
the site
on the
if you're looking at the property on the
right side which would be the west side
the side yard is a bit narrow and
the house next to it is close to its
side your two you can see that on that
flat and it's tall it's a two and a half
story building
the tall structure
on the
left side of the farmer's house or the
east side
the yard is set back the house is set
back a little bit further a little bit
more space
we're not talking about the difference
about a foot or so
but that the house
the adjoining or the neighboring house
because it's
roughly centered on its 6 000 square
foot lot it has a relatively wide yard
and um it is
a small cottage one and a half story
cottage just like the farmer's house is
so you can see that sort of compatible
relationship on one side on the other
side not so much because in the
newer construction on the
west side
kind of towers over the existing cottage
house
so in order to grant the variance the
board of appeals has to
find that
five standards are met
and those standards are discussed on
pages four
five and six of this memo
i provided some information i of course
may not have all the information that
you may feel is necessary and that's why
we hold a public hearing
to hear from the applicants
and anyone in the public you might might
want to speak about the matter
but the first standard is it refers to
states that the granting of variants
shall be in harmony with the general
purpose and intent of this chapter
and by this chapter we mean the zoning
ordinance
and it shall not be injurious to the
neighborhood or otherwise detrimental to
the public welfare
uh and in that
paragraph there i provided
some context for you to consider
i mentioned that the addition would
extend rear word and maintain the
current narrow setbacks in other words
it wouldn't get any closer to the side
lots
lines than
the current house is the house on the
west side is also quite close to the lot
line so the distance between the two
houses is quite small in keeping with
the traditional pattern of cottage
housing in this part of chesapeake beach
which speaks to the nation the notion of
harmony
this addition in my view doesn't disrupt
the harmony that's established out there
it's also in the rear of the lot too so
it's not even visible from the street it
is important to note that the applicants
are proposing a relatively modest
addition and only the first story of the
house is being extended
further over half of the fully
constructed extension would be the deck
while this 10-foot deep deck would be
covered by a roof extending from the
main house
it would otherwise be open in the sides
on the sides and thus not present a
solid wall to the neighbors on either
side
i mentioned this because this does not
appear to create that canyon effect that
mr sharp just mentioned
if this were a two-story addition a
blank wall maybe there's an evaluation
that needs to take place about whether
it creates a situation where it
blocks the air and the light movement
onto the adjoining house
and that's not the case in my view
um
so the second standard
says that the granting the variance will
not permit the existence within the
district of any use which is not
permitted
in the district this is the residential
village district single-family house is
permitted use and the variance doesn't
change the intended use
this will remain a single family house
number three that
there are special circumstances or
conditions
applying to the land or buildings for
which the variance is sought
which circumstances or conditions are
peculiar to such land or buildings and
do not apply generally to land or
buildings in the neighborhood
and that such condition circumstances or
conditions are such that strict
interpretation
of the provisions of this chapter would
deprive the applicant the reasonable use
of such building
land and building
so i've showed you on this
exhibit um this property tax map that
that pattern of little lots 3 000 square
foot lots is a dominant pattern on this
block okay on the adjoining lots however
it's not the dominant pattern within the
general neighborhood they've been
consolidated over time many cases
they've the lot lines have been adjusted
to formally create larger lots the
houses are much larger and wider as you
know the neighborhood so this cottage
pattern what was the dominant pattern
when this subdivision was planted uh in
the 30s and 40s
20s 30s and 40s it's not that way
anymore so in
my view it seems like a relatively
unique situation that we have here
by virtue of passage of time
but that's something that the board
would have to establish that this is a
unique situation
and
not only that the situation presents
a um
is a physical condition
so that
obviously the the physical condition
here is a very narrow lot
and a house that pre-existed the zoning
it is where it is
and
if you strictly interpreted the
provisions of the court the chapter the
zoning ordinance
would these with these uh strict
setbacks deprive the applicant of the
reasonable use of the land
so the question is is reasonable to
build a small addition off the rear and
a new deck
maybe compare that with some other types
of construction that an applicant might
this is a value judgment and this is why
we have citizen
board of appeal members
making those judgments
um
now you have to say establish if there's
a unnecessary hardship if the hardship
is just a general hardship that is
shared generally by land and buildings
in the neighborhood
then the relief shall properly be
obtained
by
legislative action or court review
in other words if this is a problem that
everybody experiences we shouldn't
change the ordinance or change the
how the ordinance is applied just for
one case
the town council should change the
zoning
change the law so that everyone is
treated fairly and you have a new regime
there
so
the question is
in your your mind is this a general
hardship or is it kind of particular to
that particular property and the
applicants
i would tend to think on balance is
particular to this particular location
for the reasons i mentioned earlier but
the lot size and
the older house
that the granting the variants is number
five necessary for the reasonable use of
the land and building
and that the variance as granted by the
board is the minimum variance
that will accomplish this purpose
maybe you need to ask them
the applicant can they live with
something smaller than what they're
actually asking for
it's a reasonable request to ask every
applicant that comes before you if they
say there's no way i could build an
addition uh conforming to the code or
even less than what it is because
naturally the law the walls have to
extend naturally a roof has to extend
off of its current plane you know
there's a real practical and if you make
the determination based on your
questions then i think you've
established findings that would support
this type of criteria
if the applicant says well honestly
technically speaking we could build a
smaller edition then you'd have to say
well maybe you should
just because our job is to apply this
these criteria
and
as faithfully as possible towards
towards implementing the purposes of the
zoning ordinance
and in this respect the purpose of the
zoning ordinance is to keep the side
yards open to extend possibly
so
that's an overall review and um and uh i
hope i i didn't draw it out too long but
i wanted to give a little more context
if you have any questions for me please
ask
does the board have any questions
react on the report
give me one moment
all right um
does the board have any questions
of the applicant
pertaining to the staff report
i don't
and does the applicant have any comments
on the staff report
no we just um
would like to keep the house the way the
plans are if that's all possible
um
in order to keep things
how we wanted to it to look we
purchased a home it's pretty derelict
we're having it repaired from top to
bottom we want to improve the
neighborhood we want to prove
our house it's going to be our
retirement home
we're in the process now of trying to
sell our other house
these delays are
we're taking those into consideration
but i want to thank the board
for hearing our case
and
i hope that you will
be in our favor
thank you
at this point uh i'd like to uh
open up the public comments do we have
to do we have a sign-in sheet
all the comments
there's a sheet up there if anyone
wants to comment
i did get a written comment today
the uh
work i think the written comment you
received today should be made part of
the record
hello my name is jody hoonstar
and i am the
neighbor to the tall house to the side
um
and i wanted to speak my support uh for
this plan
um in in my neighborhood i've lived here
since 2017. i've seen
a fair number of houses of this style
um get some form of attention some have
pre-existed some of them have been
remodeled since then um it's this kind
of old style cottage roof that you see
in the plans
but it seems like people moving into the
neighborhood find that it's just a
little bit a little bit too little um in
terms of what maybe a house we expect to
live in
uh in these days so
a lot of the other renovations typically
move sideways um
there have been a couple that tried to
go up and then ended up just going
sideways anyway i assume because it
caused concerns so um but in this case
um they're very close to the the
neighbor lot lines and there's no way to
extend sideways on this particular
property um the house is already set
pretty far forward in the lot
um and so from from my neighborly
perspective uh the only reasonable thing
to do is build back they're kind of
taking the house and building back into
the property that they own
um
and uh there's some some mix of house
and deck there um
but i think that's uh pretty reasonable
for what
uh all the other people in our
neighborhood who have a similar lot and
similar stop house have been doing over
the past couple years
um
and uh and it does uh improve the
neighborhood um it is a a net
improvement from when i've moved in
these uh the renovations of this old
style housing
um
and uh
yeah i i think in this case uh if the
zoning purpose is is to keep the side
yard open um
bringing the house back in alignment
with the currently existing side yard
and you know avoiding building a huge
wall next to your neighbors um it sounds
like that's all been
taken care of from
from my perspective
so that's all i had to say opinions uh
appreciate the time thank you
all right thank you
um and we did as uh was mentioned we did
get one written public comment
has the applicant seen that public
comment no we have it
that just came in today at four o'clock
bought a copy
i'll provide a copy of it all right
thank you
refrigerator
right
and and just summarizing the written
comment
uh from from susan webster page
of 3907 27th street
who expressed the concern about
stormwater drainage
we can go back
and i discussed it shortly let me oh i'm
retired i thought we would hold off
please are there any other public
comments
those comments
hearing none i would close public
comments and ask the applicant if uh
they have any rebuttal or any additional
comments on
anything that's been said
based on what i'm looking at
if we go back and put a french drain
with a water roll backwards
then we're in violation of the virus
that's what you said
we applying for variants on both sides
and then we
and
neighbors complain about a storm water
management
if we go back and put a fresh drain
that will pitch the water backwards and
when
you don't hurt properly then we're in
violation of the virus
because there's an eight foot
requirement and we only have three we
requested three info
you follow me
um running along the side of the house
basically yes i follow you um now is
that a is that something we need to get
a
face damage
if there were
a storm water or drainage issue
it's afraid
i mean we don't i don't know if that's a
fact or not right we don't either um
okay you don't know you're just
responding like hypothetically
um
one possible approach would be due to do
a french drain that would run parallel
to the lot line escape yes
and um you can do that that's not a
structure that doesn't violate the
setbacks
uh that is a
reasonable approach and it's allowed
within
the side yard yeah
the um
but we would look at that as part of the
site plan we just have to review your
plan
the applicant's property is also within
the chesapeake bay critical area
so there is a requirement to mitigate
for the additional lot coverage that is
being proposed here
and the way that we typically do it
under state guidance is to require
additional tree or
shrub plantings
and if there are any specific
instances of water being visible leaving
the site we fix that
as
you suggested but the one
way that many people also do that is
through i think i heard you mention a
rain barrel
which
slows the
release of the water
onto the ground so we would address that
issue at site plan approval
unless it was a issue of such concern
that you needed to address
tonight
that also be the case um with the
french drain
it would be addressed at
site approval
yes if it was
if if we determined that drainage was an
issue or potentially was an issue
that's something we could require we
wouldn't require it unless there was
clear evidence that it was necessary and
the french drain was necessary to solve
the problem
all right if uh are there any other
comments
hearing none closing the public hearing
and entertain i will entertain a motion
to uh
board to begin deliberation on the
application
your emotions
liberation
second a second
so um
do either of the other board members
have any comments
i have one um i'm sorry
um yeah i agree with this with the the
storm water drainage system that's
very vague i mean
you need some kind of proof to say that
the water is
dumping down on your property i mean
that's just i understand the concerns i
get this is the bay there's water coming
from everywhere
but you just haven't have to have
something more and just assuming it's
going to be your property that's going
to damage it so i mean
i get the concerns but i mean if you had
some type of
evidence as mr kubiak said like
um
i mean i don't
really see an issue with
going
so i think
this variance kind of makes sense
because it's going rearward
to follow the house
um my comments i i guess um
given that the uh
any potential drainage issues would be
addressed
during the approval of the site plan
i think the
of a comment received
would take care of that
that owner's concern
i do believe that that the
five criteria
for branding of variance has been met
that uh
the uh
plan that the applicant has is
has a relatively small impact
on the lot and on the area
i have no additional
comments
uh at this point uh i'd like to call for
a vote on the application from the board
members
i think the appropriate
way to proceed would be to entertain a
motion from a member of the board to
either
approve
uh
to directly council to the board to
either approve or deny the application
and as we did with the last one i'll
prepare a resolution to approve or deny
give it to you all you and then you'll
come
it'll change your mind until you make
the final approval
right
so we hear a motion
to approve the application
motion would be
to
directly counsel to the board to prepare
a resolution to
prove or deny
to prepare resolutions
one favor of that motion
so yeah
emotions motion's been approved
so uh uh mr sussman our town attorney
will prepare draft resolution
right now attorneys for
counsel to the board of justice i will
prepare a draft resolution
circulated to you with
comments to come back to me
notified
just a point of clarification and then
and only then could i issue a zoning
permit to authorize the construction so
we still have to wait for
this board to sign their official
decision before you can start
construction again oh yes you did yeah
always get that question and um
fortunately i have to disappoint people
so i wanted the board to disappoint you
this time
is hurting us financially
waiting
says
thank the board very much thank you very
much i'd like to make a motion uh would
like to hear a motion uh to adjourn the
meeting
we still have more on the agenda last
time josh all right
again thank you thank you
how long are these a week or two mr
sussman gets the paperwork schedule a
meeting it's posted
we all get back together
i think the
uh you don't mind mr doherty
last thing i think we want to take a
look at is uh
board rules and procedures um
everyone had a chance i know we had a
copy emailed and there's a copy here in
front of us
um
or the
uh board of appeals rules and procedures
um
as far as i'm aware one of the the only
changes we were
considering was whether or not to extend
the term for the chair and the vice
chair considering we only meet
a handful of times a year
and whether or not we want it right now
i think it's every year
whether we wanted to bump that up to two
years
it seems reasonable to me
i'm happy to
leave it or entertain other suggestions
or any other other rule changes that
kind of
aaron uh you
if i may ask sharon is the
term of office
of the chair and the vice year in the
zoning ordinance as well as the rules of
procedure just the rules procedure if
you know i know it's in the zoning
ordinance
so it would have to be a
ordinance change if we did anything so
if it's the sense of the if that's
correct and if it's the sense of the
members of the board that they would
like to see uh the term of office of the
chair of vice chair at two or three
years or something other than one year
then i think it would be appropriate for
the board to
adopt a motion to recommend to the mayor
and council a
change
in the
town code to that term and then if the
mayor and council uh adopt an ordinance
to
make that change then we'd come back and
amend the rules of procedure accordingly
uh that sounds good um
does anyone have thoughts or opinions on
that before
um i i would be in favor of extending
the term
uh in that case then i think we'll just
go ahead and
um put up a vote to adopt a motion to uh
send a uh notice to the mayor of the
council to
make a change to the
zoning warden
the zoning ordinance to extend the term
for um board of appeals
chair and vice chair and nominees
so
how did we find
i guess are we ready to vote on
emotion
all right let's uh let's put on a vote
uh all in favor
hi
hi uh unanimously approved so
at the co-see mr sussman for
graphing motion or you're graphing the
how do we get the paperwork to the
yeah sarah what would you recommend
sarah what would you recommend uh that
the motion be reflected in a minute and
that you as clerk uh send the
communication to the mayor uh that the
board adopted this motion
and
leave it up to the mayor and council to
decide how they would like to proceed on
the motion as a request to the board
yeah i can do that
what did you want to extend the term to
two years three years let's do two years
two years it's not overly burdensome to
do this every year but uh
okay
thank you uh
are there any other
objections changes considerations we
want to make to
yeah rules and procedures
i did receive i did read the uh
procedures and i have no comments on
but
uh the only thing that this is probably
more administrative than rules but it
would
it would be nice if i know things have
to be posted publicly for a certain
amount of time and it takes time for
staff to prepare paperwork
um
if there's any way that uh
we can squeeze the time between
someone filing and us meeting i mean we
might be
we might be meeting as quickly as as
humanly possible
but
if there's any any way that we can uh
having seen how long it took the
neighbors when the softwork order went
down to when we finally actually got to
hear from him it was uh it was a fairly
long
amount of time from someone who's
actually having the work done so
um i don't think there's anything the
rules directly for that so maybe
if there's nothing we can do
um
well in the zoning code it does
have the procedure as to you know the
time the length of posting yeah and all
of that
um
but i mean as long as i can get the uh
advertisement in
and the posting
you know
we maybe could do it in 30 days
you know if everything is
yeah we'll just we'll just try our best
and if anything needs to change
okay um
any other business before the board
case i make a motion
to adjourn do i have a second i'll
second it all right meeting adjourned
thank you everybody
so
um