1 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:50,320 uh hello again everyone um this is the 2 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,479 call to order for the Chesapeake Beach 3 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Board of Appeals 700 p.m November 8th 4 00:01:53,479 --> 00:01:59,360 2023 we will begin with a roll call of 5 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,799 board members um please announce that 6 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,640 you are presid present uh Mr Paul dhy 7 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:08,920 present Miss Amy Everett present Mr 8 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:12,560 Steven sharp present I am Mr Jody star 9 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:15,519 we have a quorum uh the first item today 10 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,519 is the approval of the minutes uh of the 11 00:02:15,519 --> 00:02:20,959 last meeting for this session uh October 12 00:02:17,519 --> 00:02:23,800 30 2023 case 13 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:25,280 20233 uh were there any concerns by 14 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,840 board members with the minutes as they 15 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,400 will 16 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,879 provide right uh at that point I will 17 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 entertain a motion to approve the 18 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:35,840 minutes do I 19 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,440 have I will make a motion to approve I 20 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:42,640 have a second second all in favor hi 21 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:46,319 motion passes thank you uh we'll begin 22 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:48,280 with a couple announcements um during 23 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:50,120 the 30th of October meeting we establish 24 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,040 a time limit of two hours per session 25 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:56,560 for this case so we will end tonight 26 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:59,280 around 9 p.m. uh we also have a planed 27 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:02,360 schedule for this case the next session 28 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,319 will be next Tuesday November 14th at 29 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,440 700 30 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:10,239 p.m. um one note for everyone here um 31 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,640 please direct all questions and comments 32 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:15,400 to the board itself or the board's legal 33 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:17,680 counsel um this applies to the gallery 34 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,080 as well do not direct questions or 35 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,720 comments to the petitioner or any staff 36 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,400 members here um 37 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,200 lastly uh we're going through the order 38 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,400 of presentation um as defined in the 39 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,959 board of appeals rules of procedure 40 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,640 uh we are starting again with the 41 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:37,200 appellant testimony and evidence 42 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:39,640 including Witnesses by Mr Blitz uh once 43 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,000 he has concluded it will pass to Mr 44 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,560 pounds uh for towns St testimony and 45 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,159 evidence um at that point we will open 46 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,959 the floor to members of the public or or 47 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:51,720 entities whose rights are impacted by 48 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:53,599 this appeal um and we will wrap up with 49 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,599 summary statements before we close the 50 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:58,439 public hearing and go into 51 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:59,920 deliberations uh what this means is if 52 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:01,319 um if members of the public have 53 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,959 attended tonight with the intent to 54 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:06,200 State your opinion it most likely won't 55 00:04:03,959 --> 00:04:08,280 happen tonight um if this is 56 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,360 inconvenient we will take WR written 57 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,879 statements if you'd like to provide them 58 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,320 either tonight or via email to uh to 59 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:18,519 town Town Hall staff um and at the same 60 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,359 time I'd urge you to submit your remarks 61 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:23,479 at the conclusion of the testimony uh 62 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:25,000 taking what you hear into account you're 63 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:27,120 welcome to submit written comments at 64 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,199 any time but we the board would most 65 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,919 appreciate comments that are written uh 66 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:33,400 within the scope of what we're able to 67 00:04:30,919 --> 00:04:36,039 rule on so take that into mind as you're 68 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:39,160 submitting comments or stating public 69 00:04:36,039 --> 00:04:42,280 opinions uh okay uh that is all the 70 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,759 announcements um on to the board's 71 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,560 business um this is a continuation of 72 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,160 case 73 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,639 20233 Roden reel Incorporated Donovan 74 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Estates LLC consider an application from 75 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:54,600 the Roden reel and Donovan Estates of 76 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,880 4160 Mir Avenue Chesapeake Beach 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,639 Maryland for decision on interpretation 78 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,919 or alleged error to article 6 section 29 79 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:06,440 9-23 29-31 A1 and A6 of the Chesapeake 80 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:09,720 Peach zoning ordinance in section c390 81 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,800 c310 and c311 of the chesap beach Town 82 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,639 Charter applicant requests that the 83 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Chesapeake Beach zoning uh board of 84 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:17,000 appeals to quote order the zoning 85 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,560 administrator and planning and zoning 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,080 commission to immediately commence and 87 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560 prioritize the processing and review of 88 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,759 the relevant site plans submitted by 89 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,039 Roden real Donovan EST States uh and 90 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:27,199 that the zoning administrator and 91 00:05:26,039 --> 00:05:29,240 planning and zoning commission be 92 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:33,240 ordered to apply the zoning ordinances 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,400 in effect as of January 29 2021 when the 94 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,680 applicants were submit when the 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,800 applications were submitted and for such 96 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,520 other and further relief as the nature 97 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,680 of their cause requires um before going 98 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,600 uh back to where we left off um Mr 99 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:50,440 pounds has requested uh to enter an 100 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,360 objection before we begin thank you this 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,960 is an objection I wanted to make for you 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,360 know future purposes for uh appeal 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,800 purposes and also for the status of the 104 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,440 hearing itself so um uh Mr chair uh 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,240 members of the council good evening uh 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,240 my name is Todd pounds and I represent 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,039 the town of chese beach basically uh Mr 108 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,199 chair members of the council this is a 109 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:13,919 hearing uh you know as all of you know 110 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:16,360 uh a hearing is designed to have 111 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:18,520 testimony which is sworn which is 112 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,199 presented which is uh given by 113 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:24,400 individuals under oath uh in fact Mr 114 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:26,560 susman raised it uh a couple of hearings 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,639 ago asking Mr Blitz indeed if he was 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,560 going to be having sworn testimony 117 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:32,759 presented uh and also there's been 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,599 members of the public who have also 119 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:37,240 asked whether indeed testimony was going 120 00:06:34,599 --> 00:06:39,160 to be presented that hasn't happened uh 121 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,080 basically we have been you know 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,639 listening to uh where we spend what is 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:48,080 now multiple hours uh which is going to 124 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:49,840 be more multiple hours tonight uh which 125 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,280 I'm going to use the term droning on and 126 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:56,160 on regarding non a non-sworn testimony 127 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:58,639 with regard to um items which are 128 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,360 basically his opinion uh this is this is 129 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:05,120 not evidence uh as a result none of this 130 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:07,319 is evidence uh going on and on uh does 131 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,879 not present evidence especially when you 132 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:12,919 know the individual giving this is not 133 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:15,680 sworn and indeed this is not evidence 134 00:07:12,919 --> 00:07:18,240 for you to be considering at all with 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,720 regard to really any any type of 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,879 deliberation or any type of giving in 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,039 opinions at all these are in essence 138 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:27,639 arguments and opinions but it is not 139 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:30,160 evidence um in fact any evidence was 140 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:33,520 just been presented uh so far in the 141 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,000 multiple hours is almost none uh because 142 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,479 if you only look at what the sworn 143 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,720 testimony would have been furthermore uh 144 00:07:38,479 --> 00:07:44,159 an exhibit book was presented uh which 145 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,319 shows minutes uh of hearings before the 146 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:48,120 Town Council uh and also before the 147 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,319 board of appe uh before the Planning 148 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Commission well those minutes you know 149 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:55,440 theoretically are here say uh because in 150 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,280 essence they're uh they were developed 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:01,440 and written by someone else who observed 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:04,159 it but but but and and they are not in 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:07,759 essence uh evidence in and of themselves 154 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:10,720 so any of that should be also considered 155 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:12,520 irrelevant uh the video which we saw 156 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,720 which was a video of a council you know 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,159 meeting goes on to state that indeed 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,800 what their opinions are and and was 159 00:08:18,159 --> 00:08:23,400 opinions going on with regard to the 160 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,319 council but indeed is not uh evidence 161 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,159 unless indeed it is for the 162 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:29,879 considerations and ultimately what the 163 00:08:27,159 --> 00:08:33,680 decisions uh would would be so in 164 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:36,800 essence we uh uh are have and we will 165 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:38,760 continue to spend uh many hours uh 166 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,839 listening to Mr Blitz basically go on 167 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,680 and on about nothing more than his 168 00:08:40,839 --> 00:08:45,600 opinion uh and his in his belief that's 169 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,920 not evidence that is not evidence for 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,480 you to be considering that's not 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,320 evidence for you know you to in any way 172 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,279 be reviewing uh with regard to this case 173 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,200 this is uh nothing but unsworn 174 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:58,399 statements of someone who is not a party 175 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,880 uh and there nothing more than 176 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:04,839 expressing their opinion worse what 177 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,680 concerns me is half truth which is given 178 00:09:04,839 --> 00:09:09,240 with regard to these opinions you know 179 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:12,839 we spent a half an hour last meeting 180 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:16,600 talking about the referendum under C- 181 00:09:12,839 --> 00:09:19,519 311 and how certain rights of Mr Donovan 182 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,279 were violated as a result of this him 183 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:25,360 not being able to do certain things well 184 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:27,959 under the you know and and the board you 185 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:31,240 know let the testimony go on but in 186 00:09:27,959 --> 00:09:34,079 essence the the Hal truth was the fact 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:36,279 that he didn't have any rights under C11 188 00:09:34,079 --> 00:09:38,519 okay basically in order for him to have 189 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:40,519 a right any rights under the referendum 190 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:42,880 Not only would have to he would have to 191 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:45,279 be involved but also it would have to be 192 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,560 at least 50% of the total number of 193 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:52,000 Voters who voted in the last regular 194 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:53,959 preceding regular Town election uh as 195 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,360 such you know if if we're going to be 196 00:09:53,959 --> 00:09:58,000 making these statements and Broad 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:01,000 statements going on expressing opinions 198 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,760 which are un not sworn testimony you 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,560 know we at least have to be tell telling 200 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,240 the truth with regard to what's in the 201 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,600 ordinance as opposed to in essence only 202 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:14,200 picking and choosing things that he 203 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:14,200 believes is his in his best interest um 204 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:24,360 uh so again uh the fact that we are 205 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:27,040 spending multiple hours with actually 206 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,360 limited to almost no evidence actual 207 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,920 evidence being presented to the board 208 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,480 other than uh unsworn testimony is 209 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,399 simply not proper and I'm making the 210 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,800 objection uh with regard to that also 211 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:41,279 you know uh uh various statements were 212 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,639 made with regard to the book uh for the 213 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:47,600 statutes and code and also uh sections 214 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:49,480 were stated to the board that in essence 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,279 you know for opinions by the court of 216 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,519 appeals well the court of appeals was 217 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:55,200 the old Court in the the highest court 218 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:57,600 in the state of Maryland now called the 219 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,560 Supreme Court uh in the cases that that 220 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,160 were were in 221 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:04,160 and and it was asked that indeed you 222 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,839 make an interpretation as to the 223 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,560 opinions of the highest court in the 224 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:10,160 state of Maryland well ladies and 225 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:12,360 gentlemen if you're a judge in the in 226 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,959 the court you can't do that okay you 227 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,160 know you you're making interpretations 228 00:11:13,959 --> 00:11:20,200 as to what the highest court of the uh 229 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,440 state says for a judge is improper 230 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,000 especially even more improper would be 231 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,440 that of an administrative board so there 232 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,360 and even worse than that was the fact 233 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:34,760 that and I wrote it down he said that in 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:37,639 in in essence you know if you uh uh look 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,399 at I want to get the exact phrasing that 236 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:41,120 was 237 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:43,920 done it was asking you to follow the 238 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,800 logic okay which says well the case 239 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,440 isn't on point but I want to show it to 240 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,160 you and you should interpret what the 241 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,880 highest court in this court is stay uh 242 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,600 staying for an Essence for some 243 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:56,959 particular purpose I mean that is just 244 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,519 absolutely completely uh improper to be 245 00:11:56,959 --> 00:12:03,240 doing any of that so basically you know 246 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:05,920 what uh what in essence the applicant is 247 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,079 ultimately ex asking you to do is to do 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,399 things which are beyond your ability uh 249 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:11,519 and the ability of an administrative 250 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:14,519 board to review uh things that are not 251 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:16,199 on point you know with regard to that uh 252 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:19,240 you know that interpretation of that 253 00:12:16,199 --> 00:12:21,680 language so basically uh preliminarily 254 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,839 I'm going to move that in essence all 255 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:26,519 the testimony was stricken should be 256 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:29,240 stricken from last meeting because it is 257 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:31,560 nothing but expressions of opinion and 258 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,079 statements of someone who's unsworn 259 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:36,880 someone who is uh not a party to the 260 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:39,519 case and who someone who is just uh 261 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,720 stating his opinions as to any testimony 262 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:43,839 which which should be in the proper uh 263 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,279 uh way that a hearing should be 264 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:48,279 conducted thank you thank you one 265 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,839 moment Mr Blitz would you like to 266 00:12:53,120 --> 00:13:01,199 respond to that sure uh we have provided 267 00:12:56,839 --> 00:13:03,839 uh 29 exhibits of um giving you exhibits 268 00:13:01,199 --> 00:13:05,720 of government documents yes they are 269 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:07,639 hearsay but they fall under what a very 270 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,560 typical hearsay exception for government 271 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:13,120 documents furthermore hearsay isn't a 272 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,839 limitation on evidence before this board 273 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,480 or almost any administrative proceeding 274 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:25,560 with a few exceptions not related to 275 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:28,120 zoning um the point of almost all of 276 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:32,079 the uh information that I'm providing 277 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:34,880 you is that we're asking you as a board 278 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:36,279 to consider the actions of the Planning 279 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,920 and Zoning commission and Zoning 280 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:41,600 administrator to have been in violation 281 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,000 of the the town code and I'm providing 282 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,720 you not only the minutes of what they 283 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,880 did how they did it various exhibits of 284 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:53,480 communications but also what the town 285 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,480 did to help you interpret that case all 286 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,399 of the information I believe is quite 287 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:02,040 relevant to your ability to decide 288 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:04,399 whether first the moratorium which was 289 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,199 one of the two reasons why the zoning 290 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:10,680 administrator said he wasn't going to 291 00:14:06,199 --> 00:14:13,120 review the site plans um was valid in 292 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:17,160 the first instance citing you sections 293 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:19,560 such as the charter sections is my job 294 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:22,920 to point out to you what I what areas of 295 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,680 law I believe were violated with respect 296 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,519 to the 297 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,720 referendum any citizen can start the 298 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:32,000 petition for referendum to an ordinance 299 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,279 but not a resolution that was the whole 300 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:39,199 point of 301 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:42,600 the uh the review of that section in 302 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:44,880 fact well I'm not I'm not GNA I'm not 303 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,519 not going to tell you what in in 304 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:50,320 answering this I'm not going to give you 305 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:53,320 for uh uh what what information is about 306 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:56,519 ready to come because we will have Mr um 307 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Donovan testify about his ability to do 308 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:02,480 referendums um 309 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,480 so anyway 310 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:10,240 um it's not a half-truth to say that a 311 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,519 uh an ordinance is required to do a 312 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,040 resolu uh to do a referendum because the 313 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:21,480 referendum language is strictly related 314 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:24,120 to ordinances as well as um the timing 315 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,839 for doing a referendum is based upon the 316 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,399 nature of the timing for ordinances that 317 00:15:26,839 --> 00:15:32,000 is when they go into effect when they 318 00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:36,360 um publication notices and things like 319 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,560 that so citing you law is the the areas 320 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,360 of law that I'm asking you to 321 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,920 consider I'm not asking you to interpret 322 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,639 the law but you have the power to 323 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:48,600 interpret the law it's just that further 324 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:50,519 on if it goes to a court your judgment 325 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,759 about that isn't going to be given a 326 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:55,519 whole lot of weight that is your your 327 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:58,079 job is to interpret whether the the 328 00:15:55,519 --> 00:16:00,880 zoning administrator and the um planning 329 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:02,399 and zoning commission violated the law 330 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,480 that's your job so we're going to cite a 331 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:07,399 lot of Law and tell you the laws that we 332 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,720 think are applicable with respect of the 333 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:12,000 cases they're provided for you as 334 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Authority for the proposition that you 335 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,360 had to pass such a a legislative act 336 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,639 through an ordinance and not a 337 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:22,040 resolution and that's one of the reasons 338 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:25,040 why the first uh no the second reason 339 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,360 that they were refusing to uh do the 340 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,040 site plan reviews which was the 341 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,839 moratorium uh 342 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,839 was 343 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:32,839 improper 344 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:43,199 so I'll just end with the fact 345 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:46,240 that it's very typical when trying to 346 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:48,839 prove what a government body does 347 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,240 whether it's an administrator or a 348 00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:54,560 committee or a commission or a Town 349 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:57,839 Council to provide the official record 350 00:16:54,560 --> 00:17:00,759 of what they did minutes aren't just 351 00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:03,920 some hear say they are literally the 352 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:05,280 official document that records what they 353 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,799 did on that 354 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:11,439 day when you passed your minutes for 355 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:13,280 this prior meeting you were saying 356 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:15,120 that's what occurred it doesn't just 357 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,280 detail all of the things that occurred 358 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:19,839 obviously doesn't need to but if there 359 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,439 were motions done or ordinances passed 360 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:25,160 or resolutions done the votes that are 361 00:17:22,439 --> 00:17:26,640 taken those things all get recorded in 362 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,559 the minutes and that is literally the 363 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,320 official recognition of what you did 364 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:32,720 it's not that you can't go and get other 365 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,200 evidence of it you could do a whole 366 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:38,280 transcript we played a a video there's 367 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,760 nothing here say about that video you 368 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:44,559 got to watch listen to to them directly 369 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:47,480 what they get to say um and and so I I 370 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:49,640 think the this is more of an argument 371 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,400 against the case as a mo as opposed to 372 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,400 an objection about 373 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,280 evidence one 374 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,400 moment 375 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:11,960 uh at the first hearing an oath was 376 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:13,720 administered to people in attendance my 377 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:18,799 recollection and please tell me if I'm 378 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:21,520 wrong that you also uh swore to to 379 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:23,679 that a recollection correct or wrong it 380 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,679 is 381 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:29,039 correct so I'm going to be calling Mr 382 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Blitz as a witness 383 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:33,559 I'm going to be calling Mr Blitz as a 384 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,720 witness that's up to you whether you 385 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:40,200 want to call Mr Blitz as a witness thank 386 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:44,000 you 387 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:46,600 um um so um the objection is noted but 388 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:50,240 overruled this board does explicitly 389 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,760 have some language in our um in the 390 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,000 governing documents that say that 391 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,159 hearsay is explicitly allowed in 392 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,640 testimony like this um and that the 393 00:18:57,159 --> 00:19:02,600 board will take that under consideration 394 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,799 when hearing the evidence um so we are 395 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,280 aware of that um the only evidence that 396 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:09,400 will be excluded from this testimony is 397 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,480 repetitious or unduly prejudicial 398 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:14,280 evidence so uh please continue with that 399 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,200 and as you both noted none of us here 400 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,960 are uh situated to interpret the law so 401 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,360 if you feel like you would like to add 402 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:25,640 something please do correct the board 403 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:29,120 when we need to um 404 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:31,320 okay uh I noticed that a few other 405 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:33,640 members of the public stepped in um 406 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,720 since we began um I just want to make 407 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:39,000 sure it's clear um that members of the 408 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,240 public are welcome to testim or to come 409 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,919 and and speak and we will hear your 410 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,480 testimony but it will probably not 411 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:48,640 happen tonight um if that is 412 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:51,840 inconvenient for you please do uh leave 413 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:55,360 us written testimony or wait patiently 414 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:58,799 until it is time to hear public com so 415 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:02,880 thank you okay uh without further ado 416 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:04,080 we pass it back to Mr Blitz to continue 417 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,600 his 418 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,760 presentation thank you uh Eric Blitz on 419 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,520 behalf of the rod and Rio of the 420 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,520 appellants um if I could have the 421 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,520 PowerPoint 422 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,880 please so first we're just I'm not going 423 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,640 to review both sessions but just the 424 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,880 last session just to bring us up to 425 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,480 where we left off uh in the last session 426 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,440 we reviewed in detail the legal reasons 427 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 that a zoning moratorium must be passed 428 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,360 by an ordinance and not a mere 429 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,960 resolution to be legally effective the 430 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:43,280 moratorium changed the legal effect and 431 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,559 applicability who it applies to of 432 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:49,480 pre-existing zoning ordinance 433 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:51,840 sections 2923 C 2931 434 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:55,600 A6 435 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,919 and the deadline for review which was 60 436 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:02,000 days in 2925a 437 00:20:58,919 --> 00:21:03,600 5c it was a legislative act we went 438 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,559 through all the reasons why it's a 439 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,559 legislative act that General 440 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:10,360 applicability and 441 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:12,320 effect the moratorium impacted the 442 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:15,799 rights of property owners under the 443 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:19,559 zoning code and because zoning powers 444 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:23,200 are an Express power under Maryland 445 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:25,760 law I gave you the statute they must be 446 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:30,039 passed by ordinance they must be used 447 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,039 through ordinance Powers not resolutions 448 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,760 we went over the town Charter 449 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:39,679 Provisions setting forth the important 450 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,760 procedural rights that protect that 451 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:46,200 citizen rights when legislative acts are 452 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,480 done but we're avoided in this 453 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,760 instance we have the introduction in 454 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,960 passage rules where you introduce an 455 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:56,559 ordinance and then at a subsequent 456 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,600 meeting you would hear the public 457 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:01,919 testimony and then 458 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:04,919 passage in ches Beach it's no less than 459 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:07,799 6 days and no longer than 60 days is the 460 00:22:04,919 --> 00:22:09,960 time frame it can be done by an that 461 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:12,200 part can be shortened by an emergency 462 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,600 ordinance but this wasn't passed as an 463 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,880 emergency 464 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,600 ordinance the resolution avoided the 465 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:24,279 mayor's power of 466 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,840 veto and the timeline for passing an 467 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:28,880 ordinance 468 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,520 importantly it avoided the right of 469 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:35,039 referendum which as I cited you the 470 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,039 section is protected in 471 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:42,600 zoning under Maryland 472 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,960 5213 and this statutory is in uh 473 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:48,760 provision is 474 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:52,400 important because it too is an Express 475 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:54,679 power and that means the town cannot 476 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:59,279 have done it in in contravention of 477 00:22:54,679 --> 00:23:01,240 state law just doesn't it's void abono 478 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:02,840 and then it avoided the delay between 479 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,080 the introduction public hearing and 480 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,159 passage and the delay in passage and 481 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,799 going into effect that is it went into 482 00:23:07,159 --> 00:23:12,400 effect immediately and I pointed out the 483 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:15,840 zoning provision that says using the 484 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,400 zoning power has to go into effect no 485 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,600 earlier than 10 days after the fact 486 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,919 because it's presumed to be being done 487 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,919 by an 488 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,520 ordinance so we reviewed the many 489 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:31,600 different context that a proposed 490 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,320 moratorium was described as 491 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,840 temporary and having a maximum 492 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,919 duration and there were debates over the 493 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,400 maximum 494 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:43,279 duration both at the Planning and Zoning 495 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,200 commission level and the Town Council in 496 00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:47,520 the first instance it was initially 497 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,120 resolved to be nine months then there 498 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,480 was a resolution to extend that 499 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:56,000 moratoriums maximum duration for an 500 00:23:53,480 --> 00:24:00,520 additional three months to end on March 501 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:04,159 18 2022 I I I'll generally use the the 502 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:06,799 date March 18th 2022 uh depending on the 503 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:08,440 way you count it it could be March 19th 504 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:11,640 but I don't think it's really relevant 505 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,320 to your thing and there was a debate on 506 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,760 that resolution that acknowledged that 507 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,960 the maximum duration was being set by 508 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,960 that 509 00:24:18,679 --> 00:24:23,840 resolution so during my presentation uh 510 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,240 last time on the Town Council video that 511 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,240 you watched uh I mentioned that there 512 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,799 was no record of the planning zoning 513 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,320 commission having held a public hearing 514 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,159 and passing a resolution to request an 515 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,360 extension of the 516 00:24:35,159 --> 00:24:39,240 moratorium I need to correct that 517 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:43,520 statement slightly because while there 518 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:46,320 was no public hearing as is 519 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,240 required uh held by the commission on 520 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,919 extending the moratorium they did and 521 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,159 they didn't pass a formal resolution 522 00:24:50,919 --> 00:24:56,960 like they did the first time they did 523 00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:59,360 take a vote um and they voted for the 524 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,960 extension they did did it in a work 525 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:05,039 session not at a regular session it was 526 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,360 not included in the the commission's 527 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:10,200 agenda for that work session to give 528 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:11,919 prior notice to the public and just as 529 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,159 importantly there was no opportunity for 530 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:16,720 the public comment in a work session and 531 00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:21,399 no opportunity to comment that was 532 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,399 provided for in that August 12th 533 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,960 meeting so while they provided the isite 534 00:25:29,399 --> 00:25:34,480 process that that is the commission did 535 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,919 of giving a a recommendation to the Town 536 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,919 Council or something that affects zoning 537 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:43,320 um for the original recommendation they 538 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:46,600 did not do so for the extension 539 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,840 request I'd like to submit exhibit 30 540 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,240 which is the agenda and minutes for the 541 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Planning and Zoning commission work 542 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,600 session of August 12th 543 00:25:56,159 --> 00:26:03,760 2021 who that Mr put the agenda what's 544 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:06,840 that the agenda no this uh this is the 545 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,840 agenda and the 546 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:13,720 minutes for what 547 00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:13,720 date August 548 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:24,039 1221 so I 549 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,039 believe I need 550 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,600 to 551 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,240 addition things 552 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:52,039 now and you may wish to just keep them 553 00:26:49,159 --> 00:26:53,559 as a separate pile so that as we go 554 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,360 through them you put it in your books 555 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:59,600 just because there's things already in 556 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:59,600 your books that would 557 00:27:10,399 --> 00:27:16,360 so obviously this is more than just this 558 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,360 exhibit this is all the 559 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,609 ones 560 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:32,609 [Music] 561 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,030 [Music] 562 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,120 you'll have a story you'll have a story 563 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,559 on tap 564 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,320 to okay 565 00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:52,080 so with the three-month extension the 566 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,000 moratorium was nominally going to end on 567 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,519 that March 18th or 19th of 568 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,480 20222 569 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:03,039 and slide 570 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,679 five and the next step in this process 571 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:08,480 is that the commission passed its 572 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:11,679 recommended comprehensive plan on 573 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:15,880 January 26th of 574 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:17,919 2022 um so March 18th came and passed 575 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,760 and so even by its terms the moratorium 576 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,960 had 577 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,600 expired 578 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,840 um and then the Town 579 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:30,360 Council adopted that new plan on April 580 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,519 21st of 22 so that's after the 581 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:36,159 expiration of the moratorium and it 582 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:38,559 became effective on May 11th 22 and I'm 583 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:41,720 offering exhibit 584 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,440 31 which 585 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,559 is the 586 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,159 ordinance 587 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:51,200 0234 cover page as well as the 588 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:51,200 resolution from the 589 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,840 commission which shows as you can see on 590 00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:59,399 the thing the the passage date just to 591 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,399 get that in 592 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,200 so I'll remind the board that at this 593 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,880 point in 594 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,679 time the comprehensive plan was six 595 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,159 years over the deadline under Town law 596 00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:27,440 and over and over the 10year deadline 597 00:29:25,159 --> 00:29:29,919 under state law and with respect to that 598 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,600 state law they did not make an extension 599 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:35,120 request as required to gain an 600 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:38,120 extension um they had to have made that 601 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120 to the Maryland office of 602 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:47,760 planning so note that this is the 603 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,159 passage of the comprehensive plan but 604 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,279 not the Imp implementing 605 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:54,159 ordinances which were also required 606 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:57,480 under the terms of the moratorium 607 00:29:54,159 --> 00:30:00,399 resolutions it's the implementing zoning 608 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,200 amendments which would be applied during 609 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:05,840 any site plan review for the five rod 610 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,679 and reel site plan projects as they 611 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,399 provide the specific 612 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:12,480 standards which a project must 613 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:15,000 meet and as you'll 614 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,519 see tonight the commission wasn't even 615 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,880 close to completing the implementing 616 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:22,360 ordinances at that point in 617 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,159 time because the zoning Amendment had 618 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:29,240 not been passed to implement the zoning 619 00:30:25,159 --> 00:30:29,240 ordinance and because the Town Council 620 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:35,200 had never passed any other additional 621 00:30:32,919 --> 00:30:37,880 resolutions or ordinances to extend the 622 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,519 moratorium we waited an additional 60 623 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,840 days to see whether the zoning 624 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:43,320 administrator and planning and zoning 625 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,960 commission would take up the five site 626 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,279 plans as they were required to do at 60 627 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760 days after the expiration of that 628 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:52,720 moratorium on March 629 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,720 18 um they did 630 00:30:52,919 --> 00:31:00,039 not so therefore on May 631 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:03,080 20th I wrote a demand 632 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:04,519 letter which I'll offer is exhibit 32 633 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,519 it's my letter 634 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,519 to 635 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,799 Chris 636 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:29,159 May Mr BL what exhibit number that was 637 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:29,159 32 638 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,240 and I don't know 639 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,399 whether you'll find this helpful or what 640 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:44,080 process but I have a typewritten list of 641 00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:46,240 all the exhibits that I could either 642 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,679 give to you to validate or give to 643 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,159 Sharon she could validate and then 644 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:52,320 distribute to everybody I just it it 645 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:54,679 might be easier for everybody to have 646 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,039 that list and I've already got it going 647 00:31:54,679 --> 00:31:59,760 so when we're done the whole case I 648 00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:02,760 guess yes I'll give that to 649 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,760 you 650 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,120 um I don't know which slide I'm on 651 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:19,279 here 652 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:22,960 right so as you can see I made the 653 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:28,240 request that all the five site plans be 654 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:31,679 processed um and pointed out that the 655 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,360 moratorium purpose was to have the Town 656 00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:36,440 Council pass both the comprehensive plan 657 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,559 and the Amendments uh the implementing 658 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,200 ordinances I'm 659 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,720 sorry which are amendments to the zoning 660 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,559 code and so on page two I pointed out 661 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,880 that even by its own terms the 662 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:51,320 moratorium had expired despite the 663 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,799 three-month extension and I noted that 664 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,919 since the mayor and Town Council had 665 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:57,679 held two regular sessions on April 21st 666 00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:59,200 and May 19th and did did not seek to 667 00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:04,159 extend the moratorium or otherwise 668 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:06,519 address those resolutions in r213 or 669 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:07,840 r218 um and that neither the zoning 670 00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,840 administrator nor the Planning and 671 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,440 Zoning commission responded to my demand 672 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,080 letter they certainly did not start the 673 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,120 site plan review 674 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,600 process um instead I received a response 675 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,320 from the town attorney Mr pounds in a 676 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,039 letter dated May 25th 2022 which I'll 677 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,960 offer as 678 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,960 exhibit 33 679 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,000 uh you have 680 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:49,200 it it's in your binder it's not in the 681 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,200 new 682 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,039 Pat 683 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,240 Mr pound you basically it's it's on the 684 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,679 thing right there read it along with 685 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,159 everybody um so as you can see in that 686 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:10,000 letter the town attorney took the 687 00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:11,839 position that the moratorium was not 688 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,240 terminated because it could only be 689 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:15,480 terminated by the Planning and Zoning 690 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:17,800 commission and the Town 691 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,280 Council I've submitted countless 692 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,240 examples where the town put out Public 693 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,960 Notices and press releases describing 694 00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,800 the moratorium as being temporary and 695 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,320 having a fixed maximum duration 696 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,520 submitted the examples where the zoning 697 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,200 administrator and the Planning and 698 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,079 Zoning commission took the same position 699 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,240 and with respect to the commission you 700 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:39,720 saw how they debated what the maximum 701 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:40,800 duration should be and they settled on 702 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:42,919 nine 703 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,079 months and I've submitted the evidence 704 00:34:42,919 --> 00:34:47,639 that the Town Council also debated the 705 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,399 maximum duration of the moratorium 706 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,320 settling on nine months and then 707 00:34:49,399 --> 00:34:52,960 extending it by a second resolution for 708 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,000 an additional three 709 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,960 months and then you heard during the 710 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,920 video the very specific question 711 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,839 question of councilman Bodin seeking 712 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,079 confirmation that Not only was the 713 00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:09,000 moratorium set to expire on December 714 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:11,839 19th 2021 at that point in time at their 715 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,320 meeting that with three-month extension 716 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:17,000 it would expire on March 717 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:20,160 19th Mr pounds confirmed that 718 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,160 understanding as councilman Bodine asked 719 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,280 there's no Gap and it expires on March 720 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:28,240 19th and Mr bound said 721 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,720 correct yet after this March expiration 722 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:33,320 end of May the new response was that the 723 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:36,640 moratorium was still in 724 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,920 effect and was in effect indefinite only 725 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,359 to be terminated by the Planning and 726 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,720 Zoning commission and the Town 727 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:45,760 Council and it was kind of at this point 728 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,240 I knew that we needed to appeal to the 729 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,280 board of appeals as this was getting out 730 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:53,200 of hand so I sent Mr pounds a letter 731 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:58,800 which I'll submit as exhibit 732 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,800 34 which is my letter of June 3 20 733 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:03,280 [Music] 734 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:21,319 22 so because Mr pounds represents the 735 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,760 mayor in Town Council it was unclear in 736 00:36:21,319 --> 00:36:27,079 his letter that we just looked at 737 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,359 whether he was also repes presenting the 738 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,880 zoning administrator in the Planning and 739 00:36:28,359 --> 00:36:31,480 Zoning commission you know his letter 740 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,880 did not say 741 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,160 so uh 742 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,800 so but he you know he referenced my 743 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,200 letter of May 20th to the zoning 744 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,280 administrator and commission to whom it 745 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,680 was directed so it was implied that he 746 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,760 represented them um so I inquired 747 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040 whether the letter of May 25th was on 748 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,319 behalf of the zoning administrator and 749 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,920 planning and zoning commission or 750 00:36:51,319 --> 00:36:57,720 whether I could expect a formal 751 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,599 response from them that's what I really 752 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:02,520 want I received no reply from Mr pounds 753 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,720 and we received no other correspondence 754 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,599 from the zoning administrator or the 755 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:08,200 Planning and Zoning 756 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:11,200 commission we waited a few weeks for a 757 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,760 response received none that's when we 758 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,440 filed our appeal to this board on June 759 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,440 24th of 760 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,599 2022 so while the Town Council would 761 00:37:20,319 --> 00:37:26,640 never have needed to pass a second 762 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:29,240 resolution r21 d-8 which was your ex 763 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,240 exhibit 764 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,960 27 to extend the moratorium for an 765 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,079 additional 3 months if the moratorium 766 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,520 was as Mr pounds had been arguing in his 767 00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:40,520 letter still in 768 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,480 effect and then only terminated by the 769 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400 Planning and Zoning commission and the 770 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,160 Town Council let's look at the specific 771 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,160 language of that original 772 00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:00,359 resolution 773 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,319 earlier I had made reference to this 774 00:38:00,359 --> 00:38:04,599 what I view as somewhat sloppy language 775 00:38:02,319 --> 00:38:08,920 of the resolution in my letter of May 776 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:11,800 20th of 22 and earlier in the preceding 777 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,040 I think on the first day um and 778 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,880 explained why it was 779 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:20,000 inoperative um in my opinion this issue 780 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,480 would not have occurred if a formal 781 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,720 ordinance had been used rather than a 782 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,040 simple 783 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,760 resolution I if Mr Blitz is going to 784 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,960 State his opinion we need to designate 785 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,160 as an expert okay and I'll be frank I'm 786 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,440 sitting here wondering and I'm going to 787 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,280 have the video going forward I don't 788 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,280 remember him being sworn in okay at the 789 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,920 beginning and if he and if he 790 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,319 represented that he was and he wasn't 791 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,760 we're gonna we're going to be addressing 792 00:38:40,319 --> 00:38:43,160 that as another problem but if he's 793 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520 going to be expressing his opinion at 794 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,760 this point he's gonna have to be 795 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,920 designated as an expert and I I withdraw 796 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,000 the opinion it's not 797 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,160 critical and if you would like to swear 798 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,079 me now we can do that start all over 799 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,359 again with regarded The Testament no now 800 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:02,760 I'm merely saying if you if you have if 801 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:05,160 the board not you Mr pounds if the board 802 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,240 has questions I'll I'll clearly be sworn 803 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,359 again if if that if the board feels it's 804 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:11,119 necessary I'm just so I have this right 805 00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:13,560 the opinion is withdrawn we're 806 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,560 continuing 807 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,800 on 808 00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:21,800 so let's go back to the 809 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,560 language this moratorium is expected to 810 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,240 last 9 months from the date of the 811 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,440 adoption all time periods for any 812 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,160 development project are hereby stayed 813 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,319 until this moratorium is terminated by a 814 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,920 Planning Commission and Town Council for 815 00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:40,440 any currently filed or future 816 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,800 applications unless otherwise stated 817 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,520 herein now if this language is meant to 818 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,160 mean that the moratorium in the Town 819 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,400 Council sought to pass was indefinite 820 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000 subject to the discretion of the 821 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,480 Planning Commission and Town Council 822 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,720 later to determine when it would be 823 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480 terminated then Not only would the rod 824 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:59,720 and Rio and every other property owner 825 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,960 in town have a very strong argument for 826 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:05,200 an inverse condemnation form of taking 827 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,040 but it would contradict all the previous 828 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,800 descriptions including the first 829 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,599 sentence of the this now therefore 830 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,119 Clause that the moratorium was temporary 831 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:16,319 you can see in the very top it's saying 832 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,880 it's temporary I don't think the Town 833 00:40:16,319 --> 00:40:20,240 Council meant for this re their 834 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,920 resolution to be indefinite but under 835 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,560 the interpretation that the moratorium 836 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,960 was only terminated by the Planning and 837 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,040 Zoning commission and the Town Council 838 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,800 the board should note that this means 839 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,440 that the resolution would be attempting 840 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,800 to vest the commission with a 841 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,480 legislative 842 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,440 function under no circumstances can a 843 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,480 Town Council delegate a legislative 844 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,240 function to the commission to decide 845 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200 even if jointly with the Town Council 846 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:49,800 when a moratorium would 847 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,560 end even if it could delegate regulatory 848 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:56,480 rul making Authority that wouldn't fall 849 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,960 in the the scope of ending the effect of 850 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,440 a zoning 851 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,960 ordinance to vest the commission with 852 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,720 such an explicit legislative Authority 853 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,680 would exceed the powers of a Planning 854 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,960 and Zoning commission granted under the 855 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,599 annotated code of Maryland section 2931 856 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,880 of your zoning code and section 24513 of 857 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,560 the subdivision regulations which 858 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,880 describe the powers of the commission 859 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,400 and none of them include legislative 860 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,480 powers even the power to prepare a 861 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,319 comprehensive plan or a zoning ordinance 862 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:31,079 recommendation 863 00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:32,960 whether it's for amendments repeals 864 00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,680 reclassifications are only a 865 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,440 recommendation to the Town Council 866 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,599 they're not a legislative power that's 867 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,960 to 868 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:45,839 it they're not acting under their own 869 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,839 authority to pass such 870 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,040 things not only that such an 871 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,240 interpretation would vest direct 872 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,359 legislative authority to the 873 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:59,680 commission which is one of the two 874 00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:01,000 parties to participate in the decision 875 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,119 of whether 876 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,680 legislative Act 877 00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:09,359 expires one can't argue that this kind 878 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,079 of resolution delegated a regulatory 879 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:14,880 Authority because that would violate 880 00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:14,880 section 10 code which is in your 881 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,119 binder the slide of that b provides that 882 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,240 agencies boards and commissions 883 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:26,559 established by an authorizing ordinance 884 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:29,000 may not promulgate regulations of 885 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:31,400 General applicability remember that term 886 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,200 General applicability unless that 887 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,839 Authority is granted to such a body by 888 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,119 an 889 00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:39,760 ordinance this gets back to the idea in 890 00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:41,640 Municipal law that I described at the 891 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,000 last hearing and I believe also in the 892 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,040 first hearing that something that has 893 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,440 the effect of law whether it is 894 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:51,720 modifying that effect or the 895 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,440 applicability of that law such as the 896 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:57,200 right of site plan review in this case 897 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,079 or terminating such a modification 898 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,319 a is when the ACT is what the law 899 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,680 describes as being of general 900 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:07,160 applicability and effect it means it 901 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,280 applies as a substantive legal 902 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,040 restriction on everyone in the general 903 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040 public that falls within the scope of 904 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,359 that 905 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,800 law so as section 102b recognizes to 906 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:19,640 grant that regulatory power to the 907 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,920 commission it requires an ordinance to 908 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,680 authorize such a power it can't be 909 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,680 accomplished through a 910 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:28,079 resolution 911 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,079 I mean in similar fashion the language 912 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,880 in the resolution is a little bit sloppy 913 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:42,480 in that it just avoids the power of the 914 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,960 mayor to have a role in the change of 915 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,040 something that's legislative in nature 916 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,599 doesn't say the mayor and Town Council 917 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,119 it just says the Planning and Zoning 918 00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:52,000 Commission in the Town Council I'm G 919 00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:54,200 have to here I mean because now we're 920 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,680 going back to the what I originally 921 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,319 stated my motion as being the hath 922 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,440 truths I mean if you read it agencies 923 00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:03,119 boards and commissions in other words 924 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,640 what it's saying is you guys cannot know 925 00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:06,880 promate any rules and regulations 926 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,079 without an ordinance by the Town Council 927 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,760 that's what it says okay so all of this 928 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:13,640 going on and on and on about half truths 929 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,160 about saying that the council can't do 930 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,800 it that's untrue okay it's just you guys 931 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,359 that administrative boards can't do it 932 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,319 so I just want to say let's not twist 933 00:44:20,359 --> 00:44:24,680 things too much for the half truths 934 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:27,160 thank you it's not an objection about 935 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,240 evidence and it's a argument and my 936 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,319 argument isn't that it's it's improper 937 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,400 for the Town Council to make legislative 938 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:36,920 judgments that's literally their job 939 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,920 it's that they could not delegate that 940 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,200 Authority through a resolution we're 941 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,400 talking about the language of the 942 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,000 resolution to the Planning and Zoning 943 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,079 commission commission cannot take on 944 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,520 legislative Authority and it can't take 945 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:52,599 on regulatory Authority without it being 946 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,359 done through the passage of an ordinance 947 00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:58,720 so it could not have participated in the 948 00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:58,720 termination of the 949 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,359 moratorium recall also how the law 950 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,520 requires the commission to complete the 951 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:13,680 comprehensive plan review according to a 952 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,880 deadline so under the interpretation 953 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,800 that the rotten reel was now being given 954 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,599 that the moratorium was indefinite and 955 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,480 that the commission has a role in 956 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:24,280 determining when the moratorium ends it 957 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,599 would mean that they they would have the 958 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,119 power to decide if and when 959 00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:31,680 they have to finish their work on the 960 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,680 comprehensive 961 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:37,359 plan I would 962 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,800 suggest 963 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:43,480 that's difficult to 964 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,400 imagine as Mar as I cited the Maryland 965 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,040 law makes it very explicit of what the 966 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,040 deadlines 967 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,319 are so it's a possible that the language 968 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,880 in this sentence was attempting to 969 00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:57,440 address the time periods for 970 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,800 development such as a requirement that 971 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,880 the site plan once granted is good for 972 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:07,079 one year unless it's extended that's in 973 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,760 section 29025 A7 of your code that at 974 00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:10,680 least would be consistent with the idea 975 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,200 that the moratorium was described as 976 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,440 having a maximum duration that was 977 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,079 debated and 978 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,350 settled but using the 979 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:21,449 language it's going back to 980 00:46:18,350 --> 00:46:21,449 [Music] 981 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,800 it 982 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,599 in the beginning of that se that second 983 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,920 highlighted sentence all time periods 984 00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:38,880 for the development project are hereby 985 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,160 state so there are other deadlines that 986 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,240 happen under a site plan review process 987 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,880 once it gets going so it could have been 988 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,839 referring to 989 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:53,319 that I don't 990 00:46:48,839 --> 00:46:53,319 know so let's go to slide 991 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,800 12 992 00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,280 so you already have this in evidence 993 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,720 this is exhibit 994 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,440 27 and I'm just 995 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:09,559 ref referring you to the whereas Clause 996 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,559 where they say it's a temporary 997 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,520 moratorium they also determined that 998 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:19,200 they there was a need to extend 999 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,040 it okay so if you if you are extending 1000 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,920 the moratorium and you say there was a 1001 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,520 need to extend it you're implied that it 1002 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,559 was the first 9mon moratorium was going 1003 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:32,079 to 1004 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:32,079 expire again at the bottom that it's 1005 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,280 needed so what's clear to me and I think 1006 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,200 should be clear to you is that when the 1007 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,400 Town Council was extending that 1008 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,319 moratorium they believe they needed to 1009 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,880 do so and that the first resolution's 1010 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:50,160 nine-month duration was going to expire 1011 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,280 in 1012 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,920 December they wouldn't have needed to do 1013 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,800 an extension if they had an indefinite 1014 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:01,839 power to have the moratorium last as 1015 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,839 long as they decided it should 1016 00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:16,079 last in the original 1017 00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,839 resolution attempting to impose the 1018 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,920 moratorium the Town Council had said 1019 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:20,319 that they were acting on the 1020 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,880 recommendation of the 1021 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:24,280 commission 1022 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,640 and though they did change the 1023 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,640 recommendation from 1024 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,480 uh one year to nine months I 1025 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,720 guess 1026 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,480 um and the record of the commission's 1027 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:36,920 resolutions clearly indicate they 1028 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,400 believe that the moratorium had a 1029 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,839 defined 1030 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,040 duration because they debated whether it 1031 00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:48,079 would be nine months 12 months whichever 1032 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:49,240 is earlier uh for the Implement that is 1033 00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:52,599 under the Planning and Zoning 1034 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:54,920 commission's resolution they said that 1035 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:56,480 it was the earlier of the completion of 1036 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,760 the comprehensive plan and the 1037 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,960 implementing ordinances or 12 1038 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,839 months so I can't explain the in 1039 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,880 congruity between the mountain of 1040 00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:08,280 evidence that the moratorium would have 1041 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,200 had an outer limit on its duration and 1042 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,480 this language in the resolution but I 1043 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,760 think that given that it is merely a 1044 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:18,040 resolution and not an ordinance that the 1045 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,040 board should consider whether is merely 1046 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,599 sloppy language that failed to fulfill 1047 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,240 the true intent of the Town Council when 1048 00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:27,520 it passed those two 1049 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:27,520 resolutions um 1050 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:38,040 so by June 3rd of 22 1051 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,599 2022 this is after the expiration of the 1052 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,280 moratorium the purported moratorium is 1053 00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:44,480 still being used to justify the 1054 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,160 continued denial of the rod and reels 1055 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,160 site 1056 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,760 plans and the zoning administrator and 1057 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,799 this Planning and Zoning commission are 1058 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,720 continuing to meet their obligations 1059 00:49:52,799 --> 00:49:57,520 under the zoning code and process those 1060 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,520 site plans 1061 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,160 perhaps one of the best explanations for 1062 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:03,520 this continued 1063 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,480 refusal is that while the Town Council 1064 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,720 had passed the comprehensive plan at 1065 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,319 this 1066 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:12,920 point which became effective in May 11th 1067 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:16,040 of 22 the commission wasn't even close 1068 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,040 to finishing the implementing 1069 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,200 ordinances those implementing ordinances 1070 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,200 are what would be necessary because 1071 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,720 those are the zoning code Provisions 1072 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:31,040 that would the commission has to apply 1073 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:31,040 during the site review site plan 1074 00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:35,480 review I mean I don't want to make this 1075 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,000 all about the rod and reel this was 1076 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:41,040 necessary for all other property owners 1077 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,319 who in town who would want to file a 1078 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,480 category one site plan they were all 1079 00:50:43,319 --> 00:50:48,599 prohibited from doing it 1080 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,000 moratorium was directed at the rod and 1081 00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:51,520 reel applications but is certainly 1082 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,960 applied everywhere to everybody that 1083 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,799 wanted to file a site one a category one 1084 00:50:53,960 --> 00:51:01,000 site plan so it was still being extended 1085 00:50:56,799 --> 00:51:01,000 even past its March 19th 1086 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,960 date 1087 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,000 often and and I think you can take 1088 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:23,319 judicial notice of the fact that the 1089 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:26,599 town did it in the past municipalities 1090 00:51:23,319 --> 00:51:28,599 will pass one implementing zoning 1091 00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:31,000 ordinance to implement the changes that 1092 00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:32,000 are made in a comprehensive plan it has 1093 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,359 the 1094 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,280 advantage of having both the 1095 00:51:34,359 --> 00:51:38,839 commission's reg recommendations to the 1096 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,400 Town Council but also the town council's 1097 00:51:38,839 --> 00:51:43,400 deliberations being kind of integrated 1098 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,640 so that all of the things can be 1099 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:49,680 evaluated together 1100 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,359 um but this wasn't being done in this 1101 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,240 case 1102 00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:56,000 um 1103 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:58,000 and from the beginning even before the 1104 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,280 commission held their Republic hearing 1105 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,359 and adopted their comprehensive 1106 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,440 plan and certainly before the Town 1107 00:52:02,359 --> 00:52:06,359 Council had adopted it there were 1108 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,040 motions before the commission already to 1109 00:52:06,359 --> 00:52:10,760 offer peacemeal legislation in order to 1110 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,640 specifically Target the rotten re site 1111 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:17,160 plans so this is them offering Rec 1112 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,119 ordinances to Target the rod and re site 1113 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,680 plans even before they had passed their 1114 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:21,680 comprehensive 1115 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,440 plan an example of this was in the 1116 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,880 minutes of the commission for Fe 1117 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,400 February 15 24 which you already have as 1118 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,760 exhibit 15 which was the same meeting 1119 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,000 where the commission considered its 1120 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,079 motion to recommend the 1121 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,040 moratorium on page two there was a 1122 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,599 motion to set a date on a draft zoning 1123 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,319 text amendments to limit the height of 1124 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:50,000 all buildings within all districts 1125 00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:52,920 within the town to 35 fet and another 1126 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:56,000 motion to remove residential allocations 1127 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,200 in the town center and the marina areas 1128 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,880 where three of the rotten re site plan 1129 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:04,440 applications are located three of the 1130 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,319 five those were Pro 1131 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,760 proposals to change the zoning even even 1132 00:53:07,319 --> 00:53:10,880 before the commission had finished its 1133 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:14,839 comprehensive 1134 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:17,280 plan and well before the Town Council 1135 00:53:14,839 --> 00:53:19,480 adopted the plan which wouldn't have 1136 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,640 happen for another 14 1137 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,640 months while that height limitation 1138 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,559 motion was deferred until their March 1139 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,079 meeting it was not on their agenda for 1140 00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:30,799 that March meeting and was not discussed 1141 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:33,520 as you can see in the meeting minutes of 1142 00:53:30,799 --> 00:53:35,920 March 24th 2021 which I'll offer is 1143 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,920 exhibit 1144 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,839 35 oh fine the here here's ultimately 1145 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:42,680 where we're going on this you know 1146 00:53:40,839 --> 00:53:44,319 basically there are two questions in 1147 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,400 which this board is going to be asked to 1148 00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:47,680 answer okay those are the two questions 1149 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,440 in which was outlined at the beginning 1150 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,160 of this meeting tonight now we're 1151 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,720 getting to the point of hearing uh I 1152 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,319 guess it's testimony depending on 1153 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:57,400 whether Mr Blitz has actually been sworn 1154 00:53:55,319 --> 00:53:59,640 and that Roden reel was in essence 1155 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,079 picked on by the Planning Commission 1156 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,520 with regard to its review or that that 1157 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:06,319 in essence it was targeting these 1158 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:11,160 projects which one way the other I'm not 1159 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:12,920 sure how that in essence uh is in any 1160 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,359 way relevant to ultimately the ultimate 1161 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,359 question which you're going to be asked 1162 00:54:14,359 --> 00:54:17,640 is addressing those two questions I mean 1163 00:54:16,359 --> 00:54:19,799 whether the Planning Commission picked 1164 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,359 on them whether they were mad at him or 1165 00:54:19,799 --> 00:54:24,839 anything else you know that's completely 1166 00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:27,720 separate in this thing from where 1167 00:54:24,839 --> 00:54:28,920 complet are relevant from where uh uh 1168 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,440 you know where we are tonight and 1169 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,559 ultimately question is going to be you 1170 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,559 know indeed did they present these 1171 00:54:33,559 --> 00:54:38,040 applications which I have not heard any 1172 00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:39,720 testimony which I hope we hear something 1173 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,440 that indeed these five applications went 1174 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:43,200 before the Planning Commission they were 1175 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,359 reviewed by the Planning Commission and 1176 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,839 that Planning Commission in essence made 1177 00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:49,839 made those decisions uh with regard to 1178 00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:51,880 the these applications that were going 1179 00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:55,160 before I hope we're going to be you know 1180 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:57,880 heading down that road because if indeed 1181 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,640 they chose to try to do this whole 1182 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,400 process rather than presenting to the 1183 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,280 Planning Commission for their review is 1184 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,720 what they should have done then this 1185 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,880 whole proceeding is really becoming 1186 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,200 irrelevant because that's what they 1187 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,200 should have 1188 00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:14,680 done um you very briefly be heard 1189 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,880 yes there's going to be a lot of 1190 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,799 evidence coming up to demonstrate that 1191 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,280 the way the town's actions were done was 1192 00:55:19,799 --> 00:55:24,000 arbitrary and capricious and part of 1193 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:28,440 that is 1194 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,799 directing a municipal ordinance that's 1195 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,200 in effect for 1196 00:55:29,799 --> 00:55:34,440 everybody directing it at the rod and 1197 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,839 reel to limit it you saw in the 1198 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,880 resolution 1199 00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:41,319 itself of the Planning and Zoning 1200 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,559 commission they said the need for this 1201 00:55:41,319 --> 00:55:45,599 resolution were the five site plans that 1202 00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:48,200 had recently been filed it was also 1203 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:49,520 included in the Town Council resolution 1204 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,200 there I don't think there's any doubt 1205 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,200 that these were targeted at the rotten 1206 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,359 reel 1207 00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,039 but furthermore even if e that's that's 1208 00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:03,640 that's S one is making a big assumption 1209 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,640 and number two is you know even if that 1210 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,319 is true if if they were targeting the 1211 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,520 broad and real that's all fine but that 1212 00:56:07,319 --> 00:56:12,400 doesn't go to the two questions that's 1213 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,400 going to be ultimately asked by the 1214 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:16,839 uh all right thank you one 1215 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,920 moment 1216 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,839 uh the objection is overruled but we 1217 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:38,119 will take your advice under 1218 00:56:34,839 --> 00:56:38,119 consideration you Mr 1219 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,839 blitz so I believe I I just left off at 1220 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,200 uh supplying you the minutes which was 1221 00:56:44,839 --> 00:56:51,200 exhibit 35 the minutes of the Planning 1222 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,200 and Zoning Commission of March 24 1223 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,880 2021 1224 00:56:57,319 --> 00:57:01,599 what's also informative about the March 1225 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,640 24th 2021 1226 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,880 minutes is that the chairman of the 1227 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:08,599 commission as you can see 1228 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,160 here believed that the moror moratorium 1229 00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:12,440 was set to expire in nine months and 1230 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,240 chairman Brown stated that the 1231 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,440 moratorium being passed by the Town 1232 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,160 Council and to expire by the end of the 1233 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,599 year the commission needs to devote all 1234 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,599 its time to the comprehensive 1235 00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:28,599 plan so after the Town Council adopted 1236 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:32,200 the commission's recommendation and 1237 00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:33,839 made and recom I apologize adopted the 1238 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,319 commission's recommended comprehensive 1239 00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:39,839 plan and it became effective in May of 1240 00:57:37,319 --> 00:57:41,240 2022 instead of one single implementing 1241 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:43,760 ordinance the commission made a series 1242 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,720 of recommendations over time and as 1243 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,960 you'll see the Town Council then took up 1244 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,920 these separate ordinances over a period 1245 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,400 of 18 months and they still have not 1246 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,839 finished 1247 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,760 them so the first major group of 1248 00:57:54,839 --> 00:57:58,160 implementing ordinances came with the 1249 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,440 commission's recommendation of a new 1250 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:03,400 zoning map and a series of text 1251 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,520 amendments at its June uh I apologize 1252 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,079 July 27th 2022 meeting for which it held 1253 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:14,000 a public 1254 00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:15,960 hearing and that is I will submit 30 1255 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,640 exhibit 36 which are the minutes of the 1256 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,640 commission of July 27th 1257 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,720 2022 1258 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,960 so chair greengold stated in this public 1259 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:48,920 hearing was called to receive comments 1260 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,680 regarding the revised draft zoning map 1261 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,119 and the draft supporting text amendments 1262 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,359 that are necessary to implement the 1263 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:57,160 recommendations of the newly adopted 1264 00:58:54,359 --> 00:58:59,280 comprehens a plan and note that this was 1265 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,160 occurring after the continued refusal of 1266 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,079 the zoning administrator and the 1267 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,520 Planning and Zoning commission to 1268 00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:05,680 process the site plans that had been 1269 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,000 filed on 1270 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:12,440 January 1271 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,440 21st I think of of 1272 00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:20,760 20121 and after the nominal expiration 1273 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,760 of the moratorium in March 19th of 1274 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,280 2022 if it had not been for the 1275 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,240 moratorium which I believe we've 1276 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:33,480 established was invalid from the outset 1277 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:35,200 objection you know I think again this 1278 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,760 has been going on and on about Mr Blitz 1279 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,720 stating his opinion moratorium was valid 1280 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,839 okay it was adopted by the Town Council 1281 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,960 it was a proper resolution that has a 1282 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:47,160 proper document it is 100% adopted and I 1283 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:51,319 can appreciate the fact that he needs it 1284 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:53,240 to be invalid to make to try to you know 1285 00:59:51,319 --> 00:59:55,520 make his case at all but the fact that 1286 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,319 he's going on and on St that is 1287 00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,160 completely unro so I'm keep objecting 1288 00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:01,599 that that one will be sustained sounded 1289 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,960 an awful lot like an opinion we haven't 1290 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:07,319 established anything yet we're hearing 1291 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,319 you present evidence right please 1292 01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:14,409 [Music] 1293 01:00:22,839 --> 01:00:27,079 continue so even after the public 1294 01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:29,760 hearing on the proposed new map and the 1295 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:31,000 text amendments in July the August 4th 1296 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,079 minutes show that the commission was 1297 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,039 still considering changes to the zoning 1298 01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:38,559 map and the text amendments discussed in 1299 01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:41,200 July and not finalized its Town Council 1300 01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:42,520 recommendation I'll submit exhibit 37 1301 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,480 which are the minutes of the commission 1302 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,480 of August 4th 1303 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:55,559 2022 sorry Mr buz what was that 1304 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,799 again 1305 01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:58,799 of the 1306 01:01:16,359 --> 01:01:23,440 Z submit the minutes of the Town Council 1307 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:26,359 of November 7th 1308 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:29,200 2022 is exhibit 1309 01:01:26,359 --> 01:01:31,760 38 to show that the Town Council did not 1310 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,760 consider 1311 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:42,720 them first implenting ordinance of the 1312 01:01:40,310 --> 01:01:45,839 [Music] 1313 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,960 um text amendments until that December 1314 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:47,960 of 1315 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,960 2022 so this is where they they 1316 01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:58,920 introduced the 1317 01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:01,440 ordinance the Town Council public 1318 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,440 hearing was 1319 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,440 set then I'll submit the minutes of the 1320 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,920 Town Council public hearing and town 1321 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,839 council meeting of November 1322 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:22,839 17th 20122 is 1323 01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,839 exhibit 1324 01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:26,359 39 1325 01:02:32,180 --> 01:02:35,250 [Music] 1326 01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:47,880 so this shows that eight months after 1327 01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:50,440 the moratorium had ended in March of 1328 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,799 2022 and despite the town zoning 1329 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,359 administrator and planning and zoning 1330 01:02:51,799 --> 01:02:56,640 commission continuing to fail to proc 1331 01:02:54,359 --> 01:02:58,680 process those site plans the Town 1332 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,119 Council was having its first hearings in 1333 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:03,520 considering the first two implementing 1334 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:05,200 ordinances after the hearings and some 1335 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,520 motions to amend the Town Council 1336 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,039 adopted those 1337 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,440 ordinances those were ordinances 1338 01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:12,440 02212 and 1339 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:19,880 02213 which were the first implementing 1340 01:03:16,359 --> 01:03:19,880 ordinances in this 1341 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,680 process and as you can see on page seven 1342 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,319 of that exhibit which is Page four of 1343 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:31,720 the Town council's 1344 01:03:27,319 --> 01:03:31,720 minutes of November 17 1345 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,880 2022 the Town Council considered and 1346 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:36,880 passed ordinance 1347 01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:41,480 02213 but even on this date they were 1348 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,720 doing so the Town Council was being 1349 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,880 advised by the 1350 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,319 commission that it was continuing its 1351 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:50,680 work on more implementing 1352 01:03:47,319 --> 01:03:53,920 ordinances so I'll to demonstrate that 1353 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:56,559 point I'll submit exhibit 40 which is 1354 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,799 the report of chair greengold of the 1355 01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:03,279 Planning and Zoning commission to the 1356 01:03:57,799 --> 01:04:03,279 mayor and Town Council dated November 17 1357 01:04:15,330 --> 01:04:18,520 [Music] 1358 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,200 2022 1359 01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:31,400 so as you can see by this November 1360 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:35,119 17th 1361 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:37,119 report to the mayor and Town 1362 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:38,520 Council this demonstrates that the 1363 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,920 commission was not finished proposing 1364 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,640 its implementing 1365 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,160 ordinances uh to implement the 1366 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,760 comprehensive plan it was just beginning 1367 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,359 the planning process of an element that 1368 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,680 should have been included in the 1369 01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:53,160 comprehensive plan in the first instance 1370 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:56,160 which is the critical area plan for the 1371 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,160 town 1372 01:04:56,319 --> 01:05:01,599 as you can see at the but end there the 1373 01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:05,000 commission was just beginning to address 1374 01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:07,279 the ches be B Bay's uh ches Beach's 1375 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,880 critical area local area 1376 01:05:07,279 --> 01:05:12,559 program which for years was done 1377 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,440 concurrently with the with and as part 1378 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:18,279 of the comprehensive 1379 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,520 plan um and you should recall that all 1380 01:05:18,279 --> 01:05:26,079 five of the Roden reel site 1381 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:26,079 plans are critical area plans 1382 01:05:27,799 --> 01:05:32,200 um to understand 1383 01:05:30,279 --> 01:05:36,680 why they really should have been done 1384 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:39,599 part as part of the comprehensive plan 1385 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,799 process um you should understand that 1386 01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,400 the town's critical area program like 1387 01:05:41,799 --> 01:05:46,960 all Maryland municipalities have one 1388 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,920 that are in the critical area are 1389 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,200 integrated into the zoning 1390 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,680 ordinance it does that through overlay 1391 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:59,200 zones an Ida which is means intensely 1392 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:02,240 developed area limited development areas 1393 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:05,000 I'm you know again you know now Mr uh 1394 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,960 Blitz is giving his opinions uh based 1395 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,799 upon what he thinks the Planning 1396 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,680 Commission should have done and how they 1397 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:11,880 should have done his job know that's up 1398 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,880 to the Planning Commission and their 1399 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,279 discretion so Mr Blitz can't sit here 1400 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,880 and give his opinion as to what he 1401 01:06:16,279 --> 01:06:20,039 thinks should have been done uh the 1402 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,839 Planning Commission has their own 1403 01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:25,279 discretion they had their own hearings 1404 01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:26,640 many public hearings uh with regard to 1405 01:06:25,279 --> 01:06:28,279 uh you know what what would happen with 1406 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:31,160 regard to the ultimate comprehensive 1407 01:06:28,279 --> 01:06:34,160 plan so Mr Blitz giving his opinion as 1408 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,880 to what they should have done now is is 1409 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,520 Way Beyond he can possibly testify to 1410 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,200 unless he's going to now testify as a 1411 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,760 possible land planner expert in which he 1412 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,880 wants to qualify himself as that then I 1413 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,880 can examine him on that 1414 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,000 too 1415 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,760 uh the objection is sustained with 1416 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,319 regard if I could be heard on the 1417 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,720 objections before you rule 1418 01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:19,680 themad I don't care about the 1419 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:22,200 opinion that's not the point of this the 1420 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:24,960 point is that these are five critical 1421 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:28,359 area sight plans they hadn't completed 1422 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,839 them and I'm trying to show you how even 1423 01:07:28,359 --> 01:07:32,480 though they had passed the comprehensive 1424 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:34,240 plan they had not passed the comp the 1425 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,000 critical area amendments that would be 1426 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:40,039 necessary for that site plan review and 1427 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,240 I'm describing at this point something 1428 01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:45,000 that you can take judicial notice of 1429 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:48,359 which is your own zoning code which 1430 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:50,279 describes the overlay zones and how the 1431 01:07:48,359 --> 01:07:53,480 and I'm going to demonstrate how those 1432 01:07:50,279 --> 01:07:56,039 are related to the questions that are 1433 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:59,480 going to be be posed in a site plan and 1434 01:07:56,039 --> 01:08:01,880 so it's not so much about whether they I 1435 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,160 agree that commission didn't have to 1436 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,520 pass it as part of the comprehensive 1437 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:10,599 plan but but the fact that they didn't 1438 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:13,559 and are just now doing it 18 months 1439 01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:16,199 after the 1440 01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:20,199 moratorium means we were still being 1441 01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:22,520 held up from having those things done 1442 01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:25,440 because those are also going to have to 1443 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,960 be implement the those standards are 1444 01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:31,000 going to have to be applied in any site 1445 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,279 plan review so the question is I'm just 1446 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,199 expressing the fact that you've got a 1447 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,319 critical area program that at this point 1448 01:08:36,199 --> 01:08:40,440 they're just starting to get to and I'm 1449 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:41,080 explaining why that's necessary for site 1450 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:44,290 plan 1451 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,290 [Music] 1452 01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:52,880 review Mr Bliss I my recollection or 1453 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:56,679 understanding is that the objection was 1454 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:59,319 sustained only as to your opinions that 1455 01:08:56,679 --> 01:09:01,679 you expressed that it should be done at 1456 01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:01,679 the same 1457 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,679 time is that the opinion you were 1458 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,319 suggesting that I made because I don't 1459 01:09:06,679 --> 01:09:11,400 know what opinion I offered in that 1460 01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:13,359 context but I I said that most 1461 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,199 municipalities do it at the same time I 1462 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:18,199 don't know that that's necessarily an 1463 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:18,960 opinion I think but it's me explaining 1464 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:22,040 what 1465 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,159 I see in most experiences I think we've 1466 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,400 done enough and I think uh this board 1467 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:30,199 could probably do with a f minute 1468 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,199 break let's pick this up in 1469 01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:55,719 five 1470 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:22,040 Mr Blitz can I ask you to try and uh 1471 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,639 speak 1472 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:28,120 up I I know you're having issues with 1473 01:14:24,639 --> 01:14:30,560 your voice I'm having issues with my 1474 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:33,400 ears the problem is this broadcast is 1475 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,400 just for them it doesn't 1476 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:44,280 broadcas yeah all right everybody uh we 1477 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:46,320 will resume with uh Mr blitz's 1478 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,840 presentation so we were at the stage 1479 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:51,560 where the commission was beginning to 1480 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:55,280 address the comprehensive I mean the uh 1481 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,280 chese B critical area program 1482 01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:01,360 um and I was explaining how that's 1483 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:03,639 integrated into your zoning code so 1484 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,480 you've got overlay zones which are 1485 01:15:03,639 --> 01:15:08,840 intensely developed limited development 1486 01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:11,159 areas and resource conservation areas um 1487 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,520 they're buffers buffer exemption or 1488 01:15:11,159 --> 01:15:15,960 modification zones and habitat 1489 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,560 protection areas uh and a few other 1490 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,400 things that are implemented through that 1491 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,600 zoning 1492 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:24,320 ordinance um and just like the 1493 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:27,560 comprehensive plan provides the policy 1494 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:30,000 um for to support the zoning 1495 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:32,560 ordinance the local critical area 1496 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,880 program provides a lot of the policy 1497 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:38,880 guidance to implement the the specific 1498 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,400 provisions of your zoning code that 1499 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,920 apply to the critical 1500 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:47,000 area so as you can imagine there's a a 1501 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:50,600 big overlap between 1502 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:53,159 the base zoning that a commission needs 1503 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,960 to consider as well as the rec 1504 01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:57,199 recommendations it's going to make with 1505 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,600 respect to the changes to the critical 1506 01:15:57,199 --> 01:15:59,600 area 1507 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:08,320 program in a in essence the the critical 1508 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,800 area of local program is effectively the 1509 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,639 comprehensive plan for those aspects of 1510 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,040 the zoning ordinance that are related to 1511 01:16:12,639 --> 01:16:16,159 the critical 1512 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:19,639 area 1513 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:22,000 um and those implementing ordinances 1514 01:16:19,639 --> 01:16:23,800 once incorporated into the town's zoning 1515 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,040 ordinance would then be applied 1516 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:29,360 to the rod re site plans so while 1517 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,360 technically the Town Council had passed 1518 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:34,320 the comprehensive plan and it became 1519 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:37,440 effective on May 11th of 1520 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:40,480 2022 which was in your previous exhibit 1521 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,239 31 um missing from that were the 1522 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:45,760 critical area amendments which would be 1523 01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,760 relevant to the rod and re site 1524 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:51,360 plans and so at this point in November 1525 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:54,000 2022 the Town Council is just being 1526 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,320 advised by the chair of the commission 1527 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,440 that they were going to start taking 1528 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,440 those up over the next few 1529 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,880 months and before we move on to the 1530 01:17:04,199 --> 01:17:09,040 continuation of the implementing 1531 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,320 ordinances I want to go back to exhibit 1532 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,040 39 for a minute to demonstrate a detail 1533 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:17,120 of the process that's important for the 1534 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,120 board to consider in this 1535 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:25,000 case not 1536 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,000 advancing 1537 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,400 want me to run through 1538 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:57,239 them oh yeah okay it's working so let me 1539 01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:08,760 go sure I don't go too far 1540 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,760 here okay so this is where we left 1541 01:18:12,679 --> 01:18:17,639 off so this is on page one and two of 1542 01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:19,600 the minutes of the November 17th hearing 1543 01:18:17,639 --> 01:18:21,600 minutes the Town 1544 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,320 Council which was that first 1545 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,960 implementing ordinance and as you can 1546 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,840 see I provided a letter that was 1547 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,600 addressing the proposed definition of 1548 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,639 the maritime district and the 1549 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:34,199 elimination of a bullet 1550 01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:37,239 point and I'll offer that as exhibit 41 1551 01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:41,239 which is my letter of November 17 1552 01:18:37,239 --> 01:18:41,239 2022 to the mayor in Town 1553 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,920 Council 1554 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:09,960 this is the relevant 1555 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,080 portion of that 1556 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,679 letter and it shows that I was reminding 1557 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,719 the Town Council of the consistency 1558 01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:18,440 requirement that I had previously 1559 01:19:15,719 --> 01:19:20,280 described to you between the requirement 1560 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:23,560 that these zoning ordinances be 1561 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:25,239 consistent with the comprehensive plan 1562 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,520 and to be implementations of a 1563 01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:30,159 comprehensive plan uh they're supposed 1564 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:32,600 to be consistent um once it's adopted by 1565 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:32,600 the Town 1566 01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:39,360 Council on page two of my 1567 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:47,040 letter I pointed out that the first 1568 01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:49,880 bullet point of the maritime commercial 1569 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:52,520 MC Zone included four bullet points in 1570 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:55,080 the comprehensive plan to describe the 1571 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,639 purpose of the zone and two of the five 1572 01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:00,239 projects for which the rod and reel 1573 01:19:56,639 --> 01:20:03,480 filed site plan applications are 1574 01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:05,880 located within that MC 1575 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:08,199 Zone and the first bullet point of the 1576 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,840 purposes Clause of the comprehensive 1577 01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:12,600 plan was quote 1578 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:14,639 promoting the diversity of Maritime and 1579 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,080 water related commercial uses and 1580 01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:20,040 intensities that have long defined the 1581 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,040 town's historic 1582 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:26,800 Waterfront my letter then pointed out 1583 01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:26,800 that ordinance 1584 01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:31,639 01222 that was the subject of the public 1585 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:34,880 hearing um and the town was then 1586 01:20:31,639 --> 01:20:38,360 considering for passage 1587 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:41,159 um had that first bullet point removed 1588 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:43,639 from the purposes section of that 1589 01:20:41,159 --> 01:20:45,239 zone my letter relayed the fact that the 1590 01:20:43,639 --> 01:20:48,840 Planning and Zoning commission took a 1591 01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:51,280 vote to remove that bullet point not 1592 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:53,400 withstanding that very same bullet point 1593 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:56,080 was one of the four 1594 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,960 describing the purposes of the MC Zone 1595 01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:01,280 and that was part of the comprehensive 1596 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:04,040 plan now the reason this is important is 1597 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,840 that the commission was yet 1598 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:08,159 again 1599 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,560 targeting the effect of what they were 1600 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:12,960 doing at the rod and re site plan 1601 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:16,440 applications by removing an important 1602 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:18,280 bullet point to describe the Zone 1603 01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:20,600 despite it being an explicit 1604 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,159 contradiction to their own recommended 1605 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,719 comprehensive plan the OB point because 1606 01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:26,199 staying in his opinion as to what the 1607 01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:28,199 board may or may not have been thinking 1608 01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:30,120 or what may may have been doing he wants 1609 01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:32,560 to qualifies himself as an expert on 1610 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,120 that that's fine but he hasn't he's just 1611 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,679 stting an opinion as to what he thinks 1612 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,320 the Planning Commission was thinking and 1613 01:21:36,679 --> 01:21:39,760 obviously he's not qualified to do that 1614 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,760 that's not the kind of opinion you can 1615 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,880 object to you don't need an expert for 1616 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:46,800 that I'm asking the board to join me in 1617 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:49,920 an join me in an inference and that I 1618 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:55,400 can do all day long as long as the board 1619 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:59,440 wants to hear it um so my point is 1620 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,440 that there was an explicit 1621 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,560 contradiction 1622 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:09,840 and I'll I'll also make the point that 1623 01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:12,960 the MC 1624 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:15,320 Zone which you're going to see when I 1625 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:17,520 submit the next 1626 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:20,840 exhibit basically is just the rod and 1627 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:23,159 real properties there's one other 1628 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,800 property but it's it's most just the rod 1629 01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:27,040 and re 1630 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,800 properties so that's what I 1631 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,199 mean by what the inference that you can 1632 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:34,679 draw you don't have to draw it I'm not 1633 01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:36,480 ask demanding you draw it I'm saying 1634 01:22:34,679 --> 01:22:37,800 that it's a it's an inference that you 1635 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:41,199 could 1636 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:44,159 make they were removing a bullet point 1637 01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:47,800 because it described the nature of that 1638 01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:50,000 zone as the historic intensities which 1639 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,560 is pretty much the rod and reel 1640 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,120 properties 1641 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:57,840 and that it was a contradiction to the 1642 01:22:54,120 --> 01:23:01,040 comprehensive plan that had just been 1643 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:04,239 passed um the the objection is um 1644 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,239 overruled for the moment please 1645 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,840 continue 1646 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:22,719 so this is just the last paragraph I 1647 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:28,000 believe of that letter where you can see 1648 01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:30,719 that I'm asking that that bullet point 1649 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:33,040 be added back into the implementing 1650 01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:36,679 ordinance by an amendment like Town 1651 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:38,080 Council and now I'll offer exhibit 42 1652 01:23:36,679 --> 01:23:39,679 which is a combination of three 1653 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,440 documents all demonstrating the points 1654 01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:45,280 that I've raised here page one is the 1655 01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:49,040 relevant page 67 of the comprehensive 1656 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:51,040 plan that was passed on April of 22 1657 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,400 showing the Four bullet 1658 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:56,480 points that Define the purposes of the 1659 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:59,239 MC Zone page two is the proposed land 1660 01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:01,480 use map on page 58 of the comprehensive 1661 01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:05,320 plan which shows the limits of the MC 1662 01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:08,480 Zone and then there is the March 23 2021 1663 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,480 minutes which 1664 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:13,920 show the vote to take out that 1665 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,360 buet 1666 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:46,159 so this is from page three of the March 1667 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:48,360 23 21 2021 minutes of the commission and 1668 01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,760 there was an explicit motion made before 1669 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:54,360 the commission to remove the first 1670 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,360 bullet point that motion passed 1671 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:24,280 next I'm handing out to the 1672 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,280 board section 290 1673 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,280 f 1674 01:26:00,890 --> 01:26:04,989 [Music] 1675 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,840 so in subsection 1676 01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:22,679 L on page two you can see that Town 1677 01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:25,080 Council did not amend the zoning 1678 01:26:22,679 --> 01:26:28,239 ordinance to to add that bullet point 1679 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:32,159 back in uh so now the current Zoning for 1680 01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:33,400 the ches be Beach is that as I described 1681 01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:36,639 in the purposes of the maritime 1682 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:39,960 commercial district is now inconsistent 1683 01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:39,960 with the comprehensive 1684 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,520 plan I think you can draw the 1685 01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:54,840 inference sustain 1686 01:26:55,560 --> 01:27:01,440 continue I'm you're oh sorry 1687 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:04,840 um I assume the can you say the reason 1688 01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:07,679 for the objection I mean again uh you 1689 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,880 know during during his if this is truly 1690 01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:11,520 testimony that he's giving you know 1691 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,600 asking you to draw you know whatever 1692 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,920 inference you can draw is up to you 1693 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,560 that's up to decision with regard to 1694 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,719 making it if he wants to make some type 1695 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:21,280 of argument at closing or whatever he 1696 01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:23,880 can make suggestions but right now he's 1697 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,719 telling you without being an expert or 1698 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,199 anything like that the inference he 1699 01:27:25,719 --> 01:27:30,520 thinks you should be making uh with 1700 01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:33,239 regard to something that in essence the 1701 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,960 Planning Commission did or didn't do or 1702 01:27:33,239 --> 01:27:37,159 whether they were fair or unfair to the 1703 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:41,760 you know rod and reel or the 1704 01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:44,239 applications or somehow you know again 1705 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,920 you know asking you to put yourself in 1706 01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:48,800 this in the shoes of the Planning 1707 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,560 Commission that indeed they after all of 1708 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,400 the mass number of hearings that they 1709 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:56,239 had they could make decisions on their 1710 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:59,159 own so the idea that he's at asking you 1711 01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:01,840 directing you to draw that inference is 1712 01:27:59,159 --> 01:28:03,760 is very much improper the objection with 1713 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,639 regard to the language directing the 1714 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,119 board to draw an inference is sustained 1715 01:28:05,639 --> 01:28:09,239 please continue content of your 1716 01:28:07,119 --> 01:28:10,960 presentation I could just be heard just 1717 01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:14,600 for the 1718 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:16,440 record I this is not a trial where you 1719 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,040 put on evidence and then make legal 1720 01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:20,360 arguments I'm putting on the 1721 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,679 presentation of an appeal case that has 1722 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,400 a lot of legal 1723 01:28:22,679 --> 01:28:27,639 issues that you need to to 1724 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,639 resolve I'm pointing out the areas of 1725 01:28:27,639 --> 01:28:32,880 the law I'm pointing out the areas of 1726 01:28:29,639 --> 01:28:34,960 the ordinance that is relevant as a fact 1727 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,080 and I'm asking you to draw inferences 1728 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:40,800 based upon that because that's our case 1729 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:42,679 is in part you making judgments about 1730 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,920 whether the actions of the Planning and 1731 01:28:42,679 --> 01:28:47,440 Zoning commission and the zoning 1732 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:49,600 administrator were arbitrary comous and 1733 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:50,719 violated the town's zoning law as well 1734 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,520 as Maryland 1735 01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:56,840 law I can ask you during the 1736 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:58,280 presentation direct you to the inference 1737 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,840 that I'm asking you to make doesn't mean 1738 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,920 you have to make it you don't but I get 1739 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,719 to make those arguments I'm making all 1740 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,880 kinds of legal arguments during the 1741 01:29:05,719 --> 01:29:10,239 context of this presentation this is an 1742 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,199 administrative proceeding that's the way 1743 01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:15,239 they 1744 01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:17,239 go this is a an appeal alleging error I 1745 01:29:15,239 --> 01:29:20,480 get to I get to make the points about 1746 01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:22,880 what I believe was the basis for the 1747 01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:24,560 error so when I ask you to draw an 1748 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,119 inference I'm really just saying follow 1749 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,119 along my 1750 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:33,119 argument if you'd rather me St say say 1751 01:29:31,119 --> 01:29:37,520 that phrase that way follow me along in 1752 01:29:33,119 --> 01:29:37,520 my argument it sounds kind of clunky 1753 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,920 but 1754 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,080 uh the objection is still sustained 1755 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,080 please 1756 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:25,639 continue so the the commission and the 1757 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,960 Town Council have continued to recommend 1758 01:30:25,639 --> 01:30:27,960 and 1759 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,639 introduce and pass implementing 1760 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,400 ordinances even into 1761 01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:37,520 2023 in March the Town Council took the 1762 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,880 interesting steps of passing resolution 1763 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,880 R 1764 01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:45,400 23-2 I'm going to offer the public 1765 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:50,639 hearing minutes and minutes of the Town 1766 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:50,639 Council of March 16 2023 is exhibit 1767 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,840 43 1768 01:31:05,639 --> 01:31:09,159 Mr Blitz I 1769 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:12,239 apologize 1770 01:31:09,159 --> 01:31:15,639 uh that was number 1771 01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:17,080 43 minutes of the Town Council it well 1772 01:31:15,639 --> 01:31:20,760 it's the public hearing minutes and the 1773 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:22,560 minutes of the Town Council of March 16 1774 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,560 2023 1775 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:28,920 2023 1776 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:31,239 yes as you can see on page eight a 1777 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:33,239 motion was introduced at the same 1778 01:31:31,239 --> 01:31:35,760 meeting at which it was considered and 1779 01:31:33,239 --> 01:31:37,520 passed and therefore did not follow the 1780 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:40,520 requirements for legislative enactment 1781 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:42,840 set forth in the charter and Maryland 1782 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:47,000 law that was resolution 1783 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:47,000 r232 reporting to lift the 1784 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:55,360 moratorium as you can see by looking at 1785 01:31:52,119 --> 01:31:55,360 the first two pages of this 1786 01:31:56,360 --> 01:32:01,960 exhibit which are the public hearing 1787 01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:04,360 minutes there's no record of a public 1788 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:07,000 hearing on this 1789 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:09,239 resolution and as we previously reviewed 1790 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,920 with respect to the original resolution 1791 01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:14,560 r213 and 1792 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:16,880 r218 they did not attempt at all to 1793 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,080 follow the requirements for changing the 1794 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,920 effect and 1795 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:22,600 applicability of a provision that 1796 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:24,920 changes the effect for applicability of 1797 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,920 a zoning code 1798 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:29,159 provision on this one they didn't even 1799 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:31,840 hold a public hearing on the topic and 1800 01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:35,639 so so did not even allow public comment 1801 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,639 on it before its 1802 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:44,400 consideration I'll next submit exhibit 1803 01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:44,400 44 which is the resolution itself r 1804 01:32:50,639 --> 01:32:53,639 23-2 1805 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,840 so this is a copy of the resolution 1806 01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:13,520 r232 first the board should note that in 1807 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,520 the second where as Clause the 1808 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,040 resolution improperly recites what the 1809 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,280 condition for ending the moratorium was 1810 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,679 to be as it only references the 1811 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:24,119 completion of the comprehensive plan 1812 01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:26,000 remember the moratorium was to allow the 1813 01:33:24,119 --> 01:33:28,639 completion of the comprehensive plan and 1814 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,639 the implementing 1815 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:33,119 ordinances there was apparently some 1816 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,040 discussion of the need for implementing 1817 01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:38,600 ordinances at the Town council's work 1818 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:42,400 session the week before on March 7th 1819 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,719 2023 and I'll submit is exhibit 45 the 1820 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:48,760 minutes of the Town Council 1821 01:33:43,719 --> 01:33:48,760 informational work session of March 7th 1822 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,560 2023 1823 01:34:10,199 --> 01:34:14,080 as you can see on page one of those 1824 01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:17,199 minutes the coming moratorium resolution 1825 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:20,000 r232 was discussed and at the end of 1826 01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:21,239 that paragraph the minutes showed that 1827 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,159 there was a discussion of whether the 1828 01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:25,560 zone text amendments and cleanup 1829 01:34:23,159 --> 01:34:27,440 amendments would be implemented in time 1830 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,719 for the resolution's 1831 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:31,800 approval so at least the ideas of the 1832 01:34:29,719 --> 01:34:33,920 implementing ordinances being necessary 1833 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:37,960 was subject to 1834 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,960 discussion but back to the resolution 1835 01:34:38,679 --> 01:34:43,679 itself the resolution makes no mention 1836 01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:45,440 of any consent or resolution of the 1837 01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:46,639 Planning and Zoning commission to 1838 01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:50,080 terminate the 1839 01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:52,239 moratorium which was as you will 1840 01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:55,440 recall was what the town attorney was 1841 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:59,040 saying in his May 25th 2021 letter was 1842 01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:59,040 necessary for the moratorium to be 1843 01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:02,920 terminated this is because there was no 1844 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:05,520 consideration by the Planning and Zoning 1845 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:07,440 Commission of a termination of the 1846 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,119 moratorium the commission never 1847 01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:11,400 considered it as far as their minutes 1848 01:35:09,119 --> 01:35:13,960 disclose they certainly held no public 1849 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:16,280 hearings about ending the moratorium nor 1850 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,880 do I find any evidence that they passed 1851 01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:22,440 any resolution recommending or 1852 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:24,000 authorizing it I'll submit exhibit 46 1853 01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:26,280 which is a minutes package for the 1854 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,440 Planning and Zoning commission for the 1855 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:33,360 meetings of January 25th 2023 February 1856 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:36,080 22nd 2023 and March of 1857 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:38,159 2023 which were the three months prior 1858 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:41,280 to this resolution being considered by 1859 01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:43,400 the Town Council merely to demonstrate 1860 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:45,880 that in no time did the Planning and 1861 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:47,760 Zoning commission hold a hearing make a 1862 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,840 motion or consider the termination of 1863 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:49,840 the 1864 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,360 moratorium and that's exhibit 1865 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:01,159 46 of course I'm to object on that 1866 01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,600 because you know again we're dealing 1867 01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:06,199 with the half 1868 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:09,880 truths um and he just said that the 1869 01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:12,639 Planning Commission didn't uh uh uh 1870 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,639 consent to the uh termination of the 1871 01:36:12,639 --> 01:36:16,679 moratorium Planning Commission doesn't 1872 01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:18,400 have that Authority Town Council has 1873 01:36:16,679 --> 01:36:20,800 that Authority the Town Council adopted 1874 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,600 the moratory not the Planning Commission 1875 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,520 so we' you know we' spent the last 10 1876 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,159 minutes talking about what the whe what 1877 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,600 the Planning Commission did or did not 1878 01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:30,960 do with regard to the moratorium the 1879 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:33,920 Town Council did that not the not the 1880 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:36,320 Planning Commission so you know it's 1881 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:38,040 it's you know and again we're dealing 1882 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,600 with these these half truths that are 1883 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,159 being you know asserted and then he 1884 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,840 comes back and you know makes the 1885 01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:45,600 statement oh the Planning Commission 1886 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:47,920 didn't consent to the uh lifting of the 1887 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,520 moratorium it's not their resolution nor 1888 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:52,199 they have the authority nor do they have 1889 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:55,520 anything to do with it so 1890 01:36:52,199 --> 01:36:57,520 um just want to make that comment Mr Mr 1891 01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,960 chair if I could he be heard I'm going 1892 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:04,679 to object at this point to the use of 1893 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:06,440 objections for argument because I sub my 1894 01:37:04,679 --> 01:37:10,080 objection is a motion to strike his 1895 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,080 entire testimony for the last 15 1896 01:37:10,679 --> 01:37:15,679 minutes you made a motion an objection 1897 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:18,239 to an exhibit I offered which is three 1898 01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:20,800 minutes of a Planning and Zoning 1899 01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:22,600 Commission on three different dates all 1900 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,080 government documents or the official 1901 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:27,199 record of that committee offered to 1902 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,960 demonstrate that they didn't consider 1903 01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:31,800 something it's relevant because your 1904 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,600 letter said that the town that the 1905 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,520 Planning and Zoning commission had to 1906 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:38,679 participate in that 1907 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:41,480 decision that's already an Evidence and 1908 01:37:38,679 --> 01:37:44,000 so therefore let me finish 1909 01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:47,920 therefore I don't see how you can object 1910 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:50,400 to the admission of the minutes of a 1911 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,960 commission to prove that they didn't do 1912 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:54,840 something 1913 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:57,119 but what's happening here is that Mr 1914 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,159 pounds is using objections when I 1915 01:37:57,119 --> 01:38:00,800 introduce minutes to make 1916 01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:02,440 counterarguments in the middle of my 1917 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:06,159 case and this is a lot like the first 1918 01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:11,040 hearing where half the time we're being 1919 01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:13,560 distracted by what I view is argument 1920 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,760 well then first of all we can't go down 1921 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:18,199 the road of half truths and number two 1922 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:22,440 is you know that the fact that I think 1923 01:38:18,199 --> 01:38:25,599 we all passed government 101 1924 01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:27,719 uh and that you know we all know that it 1925 01:38:25,599 --> 01:38:30,480 is indeed the legislative body that 1926 01:38:27,719 --> 01:38:32,599 makes legislative decisions I mean now 1927 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:34,239 now the fact that Mr Blitz is coming 1928 01:38:32,599 --> 01:38:35,560 back and saying oh well the Planning 1929 01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:37,560 Commission which is an administrative 1930 01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,840 agency making certain decisions on 1931 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:41,840 behalf of the Town Council they can't 1932 01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:45,400 they don't have the authority we all 1933 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:48,520 know it okay so 1934 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:50,199 again with regard to the half TRS or 1935 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:53,639 spend just want to make sure that indeed 1936 01:38:50,199 --> 01:38:58,800 that's being recognized oh um we're g 1937 01:38:53,639 --> 01:39:02,560 to okay um I 1938 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:04,960 um I understand the that okay so 1939 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,719 objections from now on and should have 1940 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,840 been the whole time will be given to 1941 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:12,480 prevent testimony or evidence from 1942 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:15,520 entering into the record not to correct 1943 01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:18,599 things that have been said or said in 1944 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:21,119 meeting minutes um it is only to keep it 1945 01:39:18,599 --> 01:39:22,679 in or out of the record so please use a 1946 01:39:21,119 --> 01:39:28,920 objections for that 1947 01:39:22,679 --> 01:39:33,119 purpose um so um Mr Blitz your objection 1948 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:34,440 is sustained and um Mr pounds your 1949 01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:38,800 objection is 1950 01:39:34,440 --> 01:39:38,800 overruled please continue with the 1951 01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:46,320 presentation 1952 01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:49,880 so I submitted 1953 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:51,599 those exhibits to demonstrate that not 1954 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,920 once in any of those minutes is there a 1955 01:39:51,599 --> 01:39:53,960 reference to any discussion for 1956 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,440 terminating the 1957 01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:59,080 moratorium much less a public 1958 01:39:56,440 --> 01:40:02,000 hearing remember I in the first hearing 1959 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:03,480 I cited the law where you have the 1960 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,320 Planning and Zoning commission giving 1961 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:07,719 recommendations about anything that 1962 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:10,119 changes powers under the zoning 1963 01:40:07,719 --> 01:40:12,560 ordinance they did that for the original 1964 01:40:10,119 --> 01:40:17,679 resolution I'm pointing out that they 1965 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:17,679 didn't do it for the termination of that 1966 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,960 moratorium 1967 01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:30,320 going to submit exhibit 1968 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:32,760 47 which is the report of the chair of 1969 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:35,000 the Planning and Zoning commission to 1970 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,599 the mayor and Town Council dated March 1971 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:39,280 16 1972 01:40:36,599 --> 01:40:43,480 2023 two days before the town council's 1973 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,480 meeting where it passed the resolution 1974 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,920 r232 1975 01:41:03,639 --> 01:41:07,840 this report let me do the 1976 01:41:09,719 --> 01:41:14,159 slide this report from the 1977 01:41:12,199 --> 01:41:16,880 commission the chair of the commission 1978 01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:18,639 to the mayor in Town Council also didn't 1979 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:21,159 mention the resolution or any 1980 01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:22,320 recommendation of the commission in 1981 01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:24,199 terminating the 1982 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:26,119 moratorium but it did note that they 1983 01:41:24,199 --> 01:41:28,440 were working on more implementing 1984 01:41:26,119 --> 01:41:30,080 ordinances this time it was about the 1985 01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:32,760 compatibility standards as you can see 1986 01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:36,320 at the bottom there 1987 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:38,320 um and I think my argument would be if 1988 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,480 if the commission had considered it 1989 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,800 would have been included in that report 1990 01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:43,960 certainly would have been included in 1991 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,960 those 1992 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:53,920 minutes and it's also interesting that 1993 01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:55,239 in the the second paragraph you can see 1994 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,440 that the chair notes that the commission 1995 01:41:55,239 --> 01:41:58,320 was beginning the discussion of the 1996 01:41:56,440 --> 01:42:00,719 critical area comprehensive 1997 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:03,239 review and she notes that that was due 1998 01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:03,239 every six 1999 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:10,239 years so the moratorium That was 2000 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,360 supposed to have lasted nine months then 2001 01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:15,280 was extended for an additional three 2002 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:17,719 months was some two years later being 2003 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:19,760 quietly terminated by a simple 2004 01:42:17,719 --> 01:42:22,320 resolution without any public press 2005 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:24,599 releases without any public hearing or 2006 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:27,199 input without a commission 2007 01:42:24,599 --> 01:42:30,760 recommendation hearing or 2008 01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:32,480 resolution at some point you have to ask 2009 01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,960 how do how long does a property owner 2010 01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:37,719 have to wait to have their site plans 2011 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:40,239 reviewed was this process 2012 01:42:37,719 --> 01:42:41,800 fair is this how you expect the zoning 2013 01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:44,760 laws in your town to be applied to 2014 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,760 Citizens and Property 2015 01:42:45,719 --> 01:42:51,440 Owners while nominally lifting the 2016 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,560 moratorium 2017 01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:54,040 the zoning administrator and the 2018 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:57,040 Planning and Zoning commission have 2019 01:42:54,040 --> 01:43:00,280 still not taken any action on the site 2020 01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:01,280 plans so that was in March of this year 2021 01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,000 they still haven't done anything with 2022 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:05,360 the site 2023 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,840 plans the Roden reel has received no 2024 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,920 Communications from either of them 2025 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,520 suggesting the start of that review or 2026 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:14,000 scheduling of any hearings as is 2027 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,159 required under their zoning 2028 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:19,159 ordinance these applications were on 2029 01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:22,040 file in January of 2030 01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:23,199 2021 the more orium recognized that they 2031 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:26,000 were on 2032 01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:27,679 file as these applications were recited 2033 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,840 in the commission's resolution and the 2034 01:43:27,679 --> 01:43:30,840 Town Council resolution 2035 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:35,280 r213 as being the very purpose of the 2036 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:42,320 moratorium yet both the zoning 2037 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:45,119 administrator and the commission 2038 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:49,239 continued even up to this date to act as 2039 01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:49,239 if they don't exist and were never 2040 01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:52,679 filed 2041 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,639 the commission continued to 2042 01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:58,440 recommend additional implementing 2043 01:43:56,639 --> 01:44:00,560 ordinances which would still be 2044 01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:03,000 necessary for Rod re site plan 2045 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,000 application 2046 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:08,800 review I'll submit exhibit 48 which are 2047 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:13,080 the minutes of the July 20th 23 Town 2048 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:13,080 Council public hearing and meeting 2049 01:44:19,599 --> 01:44:22,599 minutes 2050 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,239 as you can see on page one of the 2051 01:44:34,679 --> 01:44:38,040 hearing minutes the Town Council was 2052 01:44:36,239 --> 01:44:41,920 taking up ordinances 2053 01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:43,719 02316 17 and 18 which are amending the 2054 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:46,800 zoning ordinance to implement the design 2055 01:44:43,719 --> 01:44:49,040 standards for tow houses a new standard 2056 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,360 of compatibility and up toate and an 2057 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,159 update to the urban for Forest sections 2058 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:55,400 of the 2059 01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:57,400 code all three of these flow from 2060 01:44:55,400 --> 01:45:01,400 recommendations that you can read in the 2061 01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:03,560 April 2022 comprehensive plan the design 2062 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:05,719 standards for tow houses which would 2063 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:08,239 have which would impact the Roden reel's 2064 01:45:05,719 --> 01:45:10,679 stin it place and Homeplace 2065 01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:12,560 applications and the standard of compat 2066 01:45:10,679 --> 01:45:15,360 standards of compatibility which would 2067 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:17,719 impact them all were very big issues 2068 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:20,920 discussed during the comprehensive plan 2069 01:45:17,719 --> 01:45:22,400 process and so even as late as July of 2070 01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:24,760 this year they were just getting to 2071 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:29,239 implementing Those portions of the 2072 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:29,239 plan the first two ordinances would 2073 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:35,000 impact some of the rod and reel site 2074 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:37,639 plan applications if those laws were 2075 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,800 retroactively applied to the 2076 01:45:37,639 --> 01:45:42,320 applications all three of the ordinances 2077 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,719 were passed by the Town Council which 2078 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:47,159 you can see on page five of the exhibit 2079 01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:49,480 which is page three and four of the uh 2080 01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:52,480 Town Council session 2081 01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:52,480 minutes 2082 01:45:54,320 --> 01:46:00,760 next I'm going to offer as exhibit 49 2083 01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:03,280 the Town Council public hearing 2084 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:09,199 minutes and minutes of the Town Council 2085 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:09,199 of September 21st 2023 is exhibit 2086 01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:19,440 49 hi Mr Bliss what was 48 48 2087 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:23,119 was the minutes of the July 20th 23 Town 2088 01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:26,840 Council public hearing and 2089 01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:26,840 minutes so this is 2090 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,880 49 2091 01:46:41,480 --> 01:46:51,480 proved but your 2092 01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:53,800 agend got that and so that's not have 2093 01:46:51,480 --> 01:46:56,440 binders is just being replaced with the 2094 01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,440 actual formal 2095 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:03,960 minutes so I offer this to show you that 2096 01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:06,080 the Town Council is still offering 2097 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,080 implementing ordinances in this case 2098 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,920 ordinance 2099 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:13,679 023 21 on the standards for conditional 2100 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:15,320 uses also subject to much debate during 2101 01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:16,920 the comprehensive plan process and 2102 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,320 implementing the comprehensive plan 2103 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:22,320 policy recommendations into the zoning 2104 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,320 ordinance 2105 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:27,080 so the board understands that the 2106 01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,280 implementing ordinances are not yet 2107 01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:31,560 complete even as of this 2108 01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,000 date one of the rationals for 2109 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,360 dramatically changing the zoning 2110 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,080 ordinance in the center of the town 2111 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,199 which is primarily the MC Maritime 2112 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,800 commercial District impacting The Three 2113 01:47:38,199 --> 01:47:41,840 Rod and Reel projects was the threat of 2114 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,920 sea level 2115 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:46,719 rise you can read that in the 2116 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:49,400 comprehensive plan it was also used to 2117 01:47:46,719 --> 01:47:51,679 justify less dramatic changes that would 2118 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:55,159 apply to the Senate 2119 01:47:51,679 --> 01:47:59,800 property I'm going to offer as exhibit 2120 01:47:55,159 --> 01:48:03,480 50 pages 38 to 48 of the comprehensive 2121 01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,480 plan that was passed in April of 2122 01:48:19,239 --> 01:48:22,239 2022 2123 01:48:30,159 --> 01:48:35,080 so as you can see from this exhibit what 2124 01:48:33,239 --> 01:48:38,360 the comprehensive plan did was use 2125 01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:41,360 projections from the Maryland Commission 2126 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:45,239 on climate change to plot what areas had 2127 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:47,280 a a 5% higher chance of flooding uh they 2128 01:48:45,239 --> 01:48:50,280 did this using two maps showing the 2129 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,280 projected risk areas for the year's 2050 2130 01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:54,400 and 2131 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:57,080 2100 but using a 10% exceedence 2132 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,400 probability rather than the 5% and then 2133 01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,639 the map show the lower risk areas of 1% 2134 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:05,560 and two10 of a 2135 01:49:01,639 --> 01:49:08,040 percent so oops I apologize I think I 2136 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,040 went the wrong 2137 01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:13,760 direction so this slide shows the 2050 2138 01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:15,159 predicted reach of periodic flooding 2139 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:17,760 which is a map seven of your 2140 01:49:15,159 --> 01:49:17,760 comprehensive 2141 01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:23,480 plan 2142 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,920 this one is the 20 the year 2100 2143 01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:29,639 predicted reach for periodic flooding 2144 01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,639 which is map eight of your comprehensive 2145 01:49:30,599 --> 01:49:35,520 plan and what the plan did was 2146 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,840 established three zones of 2147 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:39,159 vulnerability which you can see here are 2148 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,560 shown on page 2149 01:49:39,159 --> 01:49:45,000 42 of the comprehensive plan and two of 2150 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:46,760 those zones of vulnerability shown on 2151 01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:49,880 maps nine and 10 of the comprehensive 2152 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:53,080 plan would cover four of the five rotten 2153 01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:55,719 re site plans 2154 01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:58,320 applications now I want to be 2155 01:49:55,719 --> 01:50:00,480 clear that we're not contesting in this 2156 01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:01,320 hearing the commission's role in using 2157 01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:03,760 such 2158 01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:06,440 information the maps making 2159 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,320 corresponding plans or even judgments 2160 01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:10,280 they made we can't challenge that in 2161 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:13,000 that Con in this context it's not 2162 01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:16,080 relevant what I'm showing 2163 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,880 you is to point out to the commission 2164 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:20,360 was creating these zones of 2165 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:22,679 vulnerability in the comprehensive plan 2166 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:26,840 and had two specific recommendations in 2167 01:50:22,679 --> 01:50:29,800 the plan based upon these 2168 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:33,360 zones and this is all in the same 2169 01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:35,119 exhibit as this slide shows there were 2170 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:37,960 three substantive recommendations for 2171 01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:40,840 the vulnerability zones first that for 2172 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:45,960 areas that expected to be submerged when 2173 01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:47,719 the Bay water level rises by 2.1 ft the 2174 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,760 plan recommends that the regulations and 2175 01:50:47,719 --> 01:50:51,719 policies be adopted to prevent further 2176 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:54,119 Dev development or intensification of 2177 01:50:51,719 --> 01:50:56,679 land use activities and that no 2178 01:50:54,119 --> 01:50:58,840 residential land uses be 2179 01:50:56,679 --> 01:51:00,880 permitted this recommendation has a 2180 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:03,800 direct impact on one of the five Roden 2181 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:06,040 reel five uh Roden reel applications 2182 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:09,000 known as Harbor Vista 2183 01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:11,119 West the second recommendation was that 2184 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:14,040 detailed plans for three vulnerability 2185 01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:16,920 zones be adopted and most important to 2186 01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:18,480 this case that the town would postpone 2187 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:21,000 formal review and approval of 2188 01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:23,960 development plans in these 2189 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:26,440 areas so under this concept even after 2190 01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:28,760 the moratorium would expire there would 2191 01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:30,920 be a recommendation that any development 2192 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:32,920 plans not be reviewed until the specific 2193 01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,280 details for these vulnerability zones 2194 01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,280 would be 2195 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:40,880 developed this could explain why even 2196 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:45,440 after the council passed the resolution 2197 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:47,840 to r232 in March of 23 reporting to end 2198 01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:49,480 the moratorium the zoning administrator 2199 01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,800 and the planning of zoning commission 2200 01:51:49,480 --> 01:51:52,480 have still not not taken up the site 2201 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:55,040 plan applications that were filed in 2202 01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:55,040 January of 2203 01:51:57,480 --> 01:52:02,880 2021 those plans for the vulnerability 2204 01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:04,199 zones have not yet been developed and no 2205 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:07,119 implementing ordinances have been 2206 01:52:04,199 --> 01:52:09,280 submitted yet they're still working on 2207 01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:10,639 those and they're in their study for the 2208 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:13,920 comprehensive 2209 01:52:10,639 --> 01:52:17,719 plan and those vulnerability zones cover 2210 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:20,599 potentially large swaths of 2211 01:52:17,719 --> 01:52:23,320 town I'm going to show you 2212 01:52:20,599 --> 01:52:23,320 in exhibit 2213 01:52:29,679 --> 01:52:35,040 51 which 2214 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:38,599 is Page 2215 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:41,960 24 of a draft 2216 01:52:38,599 --> 01:52:46,760 plan dated June 22nd 2217 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:50,079 2023 of the coastal resiliency steering 2218 01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:53,760 committee as well as a on the second 2219 01:52:50,079 --> 01:52:57,280 page uh a a screenshot of the Town 2220 01:52:53,760 --> 01:53:01,159 Council I mean the the town's website 2221 01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:03,320 describing the plan for this committee 2222 01:53:01,159 --> 01:53:06,599 and I offer that as exhibit 2223 01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:11,000 51 to that because now we're discussing 2224 01:53:06,599 --> 01:53:13,040 a draft plan that was wasn't adopted at 2225 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:15,560 all I mean 2226 01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:17,400 this hold on um that objection is 2227 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:21,480 sustained because it is a draft why 2228 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:27,119 don't you state it Mr Mr Blitz 2229 01:53:21,480 --> 01:53:28,719 turn so reason for showing this plan is 2230 01:53:27,119 --> 01:53:30,400 to show you that a whole bunch of 2231 01:53:28,719 --> 01:53:32,760 implementing ordinances that would be 2232 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:35,280 applicable to the media are still being 2233 01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:37,159 worked on and what the schedule is 2234 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:39,560 second page of this exhibit shows that 2235 01:53:37,159 --> 01:53:41,880 is it going to be 2236 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:44,800 considered 2237 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:46,719 um it was held a meeting in November 2nd 2238 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:50,360 of 2239 01:53:46,719 --> 01:53:53,599 2023 um to discuss the public comments 2240 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:55,639 and it basically sets forth what they're 2241 01:53:53,599 --> 01:53:57,920 going to do so these are upcoming 2242 01:53:55,639 --> 01:54:01,360 implementing ordinances that directly 2243 01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:03,520 impact the rot real site I'm not 2244 01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,920 offering there's no you don't need to 2245 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,599 evaluate the truth or the veracity of 2246 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:09,159 anything in this draft plan it's merely 2247 01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:12,000 showing that they're current this is 2248 01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:14,119 where they are currently working on for 2249 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:17,000 implementing ordinances which were a 2250 01:54:14,119 --> 01:54:19,079 very big part of a comprehensive plan 2251 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:21,400 and as I read to you one of the 2252 01:54:19,079 --> 01:54:23,639 recommendations for these zones was 2253 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:26,599 removal of all 2254 01:54:23,639 --> 01:54:29,280 residential um development in the MC 2255 01:54:26,599 --> 01:54:32,560 Zone well that's three of the five 2256 01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:34,239 projects for the rod and reel that's why 2257 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,719 we're offering it's there's nothing 2258 01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:38,040 about the validity of this document it 2259 01:54:35,719 --> 01:54:39,920 show really showing where they are in 2260 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:42,440 the process of developing and 2261 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,440 implementing 2262 01:54:48,679 --> 01:54:51,679 orance 2263 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,679 the objection will be sustained for 2264 01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:12,960 black 2265 01:55:10,679 --> 01:55:15,520 Foundation where that document came from 2266 01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,520 who prepared 2267 01:55:18,599 --> 01:55:23,199 it 2268 01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:26,880 just so the board knows it's a plan 2269 01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:28,920 directly on the website of the town you 2270 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,800 can take judicial notice of that it's a 2271 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:33,639 town document that is being offered by 2272 01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:35,920 the town as where the the coastal 2273 01:55:33,639 --> 01:55:37,079 resiliency board is in this part of the 2274 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,400 process that's all I'm really just 2275 01:55:37,079 --> 01:55:42,199 trying to show 2276 01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:45,520 you but you if it's sustained that's 2277 01:55:42,199 --> 01:55:45,520 fine okay thank 2278 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:51,599 you reminder we have about five minutes 2279 01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,599 left this evening 2280 01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,520 so 2281 01:56:22,679 --> 01:56:27,400 so I'll finish off with exhibit which is 2282 01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:31,239 now 2283 01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:33,199 51 uh September 21st 2023 report of the 2284 01:56:31,239 --> 01:56:34,960 chair of Planning and Zoning commission 2285 01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:40,159 to the mayor and Town 2286 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:40,159 Council Deber uh 21st 2287 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,480 2023 2288 01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:06,079 this report 2289 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:07,960 shows the continuing implementing 2290 01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:10,199 ordinances that are going to continue to 2291 01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:12,119 come commission was making revisions to 2292 01:57:10,199 --> 01:57:14,480 the local critical area 2293 01:57:12,119 --> 01:57:16,480 program those will come in as ordinances 2294 01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:18,920 they are also now working on the new 2295 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:21,639 signage regulations and intend on 2296 01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:24,760 revisiting the development of housing in 2297 01:57:21,639 --> 01:57:24,760 relationship to Steve 2298 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:32,159 slopes and I think this is 2299 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:35,719 probably the best point for a stopping 2300 01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:40,800 point um I'd like to 2301 01:57:35,719 --> 01:57:43,360 um let the board know that um I will 2302 01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:46,639 clearly be finishing the applicant's 2303 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:50,000 testimony at the next hearing just so 2304 01:57:46,639 --> 01:57:52,079 you can think about schedule um 2305 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,920 and um I thank you for your time and 2306 01:57:52,079 --> 01:57:56,560 consideration you think you'll eat the 2307 01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:57,920 whole following two hours or will it be 2308 01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:02,040 some fraction of 2309 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:05,159 that that really depends on the extended 2310 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:07,239 scope of cross-examination because that 2311 01:58:05,159 --> 01:58:10,440 will be a lot more testimony from Mr 2312 01:58:07,239 --> 01:58:11,639 Woodburn and Mr Donovan so let's make 2313 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:15,199 the assumption that it will take the 2314 01:58:11,639 --> 01:58:16,920 entire time and if it happily doesn't um 2315 01:58:15,199 --> 01:58:22,239 we will determine whether or not to 2316 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:24,920 break or to go directly into um Mr to's 2317 01:58:22,239 --> 01:58:27,920 uh presentation or whatever he likes to 2318 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:31,480 provide okay um at this point uh I'll 2319 01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:34,840 entertain a motion to adjourn the 2320 01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:37,280 meet yeah I'm about to do it um our next 2321 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:40,880 meeting will be uh November 14th which 2322 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:43,199 is Tuesday at 700 pm here at chese Beach 2323 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:45,000 Town Hall um at this point in time I'll 2324 01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:47,520 entertain a motion to adjourn this 2325 01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:50,119 meeting until then I will make such a 2326 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:53,239 motion I have a second second all in 2327 01:58:50,119 --> 01:58:56,239 favor I all right thank you motion 2328 01:58:53,239 --> 01:58:56,239 adjourn 2329 01:58:58,639 --> 01:59:01,639 ajour