[1:21] Thank you for keeping me on my toes
there, Anthony. [laughter]
[1:29] » I've been informed it is 6:15 by one of
my council members and time to start the
[1:34] public hearing. Um, this public hearing
is on ordinance O-26-14,
[1:40] an ordinance of the town council,
Chesapeake Beach, amending the town code
[1:44] chapter 290, zoning, article 3, zoning
districts section 290-10, land use table
[1:50] to prohibit data centers in all zones.
And I would think that Sarah, you're the
[1:55] one that could probably explain this
best.
[1:58] » Sure.
So the
[2:01] ordinance that is drafted simply removes
data centers as a permitted use which
[2:07] it's currently permitted in the maritime
commercial zone only but it removes it
[2:11] as a permitted use and inserts it as an
expressly prohibited use in every zone
[2:17] which means that data centers would not
be permitted anywhere in the town of
[2:20] Chesapeake Beach.
>> Straightforward
[2:23] » that is the simple explanation.
Uh does anybody uh have any comments or
[2:29] questions on the council?
[2:33] Okay. Public, anybody in the public have
any questions or comments on this
[2:38] particular issue?
[2:43] [laughter]
>> Dr. Janette Weisaki. Um I live on 13th
[2:46] Street. Uh so I would like to strongly
encourage all of you to um vote in
[2:51] support of prohibiting data centers. um
they're just not a good fit for our
[2:56] community. Um
if you listened So I am on the
[3:02] environmental commission, but I'm
speaking for myself. If you listen to
[3:05] the uh environmental commission meeting
where Nutelli Holdings came and spoke to
[3:10] us, they looked for three things and we
have all three proximity to high voltage
[3:14] power lines, uh water water and water
treatment facilities and fiber optics
[3:20] which we now have. So removing these as
prohibited will protect Chesapeake Beach
[3:25] for
a long time. We should encourage um
[3:31] protection of the ecosystem. I walked on
the trail the other day
[3:36] I can't imagine a data center being out
there. So um the more we can do to
[3:40] protect our environment, the the better
it will be for the future.
[3:46] So thank you.
>> Thank you.
[3:48] » You ended with a blast of thunder, too.
I I wonder how how did you manage that?
[3:55] [laughter]
>> That was the emphasis on your point. Uh
[3:59] is there anybody else that would like to
speak in the public hearing?
[4:04] » Hearing none. Uh we will
>> I have a comment. No.
[4:08] » Oh, you're Did you want to speak?
>> Well, I wouldn't mind asking a question
[4:12] if if she would. Uh
I I appreciate you coming out last time
[4:17] and again this time. Um, like I said
before, I'm an electrician by trade. So,
[4:22] I've worked at different data centers in
Lowden County. I've about a month and a
[4:29] half ago, I went to a data center that
was built in like 200
[4:35] maybe 12 or something like that. All the
generators were inside.
[4:39] The way that the data center are now
with the hyperscaler one is drastically
[4:46] changed from where they were just eight
years ago. Um, when I've looked into as
[4:54] Cal County and stuff like that, what I
see a big item that
[4:59] nationally is we have a nuclear power
plant and we have the gas liqufied and
[5:05] we have the gas pipeline. You know what
I mean?
[5:10] I I
do not really and then do not really
[5:14] think that there's a pressing concern
and worry for Ches Peak Beach, but I do
[5:21] know that the money that's made there is
[5:27] pretty
pretty hard to fathom how much money
[5:31] that are made, you know. So, um I've
talked to uh Anthony about this a few
[5:38] times this week. Um it it's uh
I don't see this as an emerging uh worry
[5:47] and stuff like that, but
I think that the moratorum that the
[5:54] county put made it seem like we weren't
um like the whole all of the governing
[6:00] bodies were there. I also think that the
way, the shape, the geographical area of
[6:09] what Chesake Beaches wouldn't allow for
any industry. So, it's not singling out
[6:16] any one industry. Um, I would say the
same if it was a manufacturer. I just
[6:23] don't think our town has that platform
for it. You know, I I don't want it to
[6:27] be where
we're making a statement in opposition
[6:33] to any thing. I just
do not see that uh
[6:41] our soil or environment would allow for
such thing. You know, I don't
[6:48] [clears throat]
>> so it should be easy to vote to support
[6:50] it,
>> of course. But I just wanted to add it
[6:53] seems like you've
well educated in regards to this and
[6:58] stuff like that. So I just
>> I am
[7:01] » I actually used to coordinate cloud
training for the National Institutes of
[7:04] Health. So I am quite familiar with um
with AI with machine learning with data
[7:10] centers. So the hypers scale data
centers are a completely different beast
[7:14] than what people think of as the
internet and with the amount of heat
[7:20] that they are putting out. Um two
separate studies have come out. um one
[7:26] that talks about the increase in land
temperature and a second one that talks
[7:30] about the increase in ambient air
temperature. And if you understand
[7:34] anything about how earth science works,
if you heat the land, you heat the air.
[7:38] If you heat the air, you heat the land.
And you heat the water. And that's the
[7:42] big issue because for
for the bay, it is very shallow. Mhm.
[7:50] [clears throat]
>> So if you do any fishing, you might be
[7:53] familiar with um the term dead zones or
hypoxia. So that's already a concern
[7:59] because the bay is shallow. And what
that means for those who don't know is
[8:03] that um warm water doesn't hold
dissolved oxygen as well. And so if it
[8:08] can't hold oxygen, the organisms that
live there can't breathe and they end up
[8:12] dying. So those that creates a dead
zone. Fish can swim away, oysters can't,
[8:18] right?
So for us, for our ecosystem,
[8:24] um, putting something so close that puts
out heat, if you watched the Nutelli
[8:30] experts with us, the environmental
commission, they would not, they refused
[8:36] to answer where the heat goes. If you
take um, heated water from 120° to 90°,
[8:44] that 30° heat has to go somewhere.
though it's ex it's expelled into the
[8:49] air that's going to heat up the air. So
I agree that Chesapeake Beach doesn't
[8:57] have first we're not zoned industrial or
I2 but it's it's not so much that you're
[9:05] making a statement. You're making sure
that we are protecting our future and
[9:10] our kids' future. I I moved here for
Brownies Beach.
[9:15] My kids got to see it. I want other
people's kids to see it the way it is.
[9:19] So what you are doing with this vote is
not saying, "Oh, I hate data centers.
[9:25] [clears throat] We can't have data
centers here." You are saying we're
[9:28] protecting this ecosystem for future
generations.
[9:32] » And and that's and that's the statement
that I I hope that is is heard. you
[9:37] know, uh
I think certain areas you have the
[9:44] ability to have manufacturing. You have
I think Detroit has a lot of auto
[9:49] manufacturer and different places.
Chespig Beach is
[9:53] » it's not that place. And so it's not us
making a a statement except for to say
[9:58] we love the Ches Bay. That's one thing
that I believe most Marylanders will
[10:03] agree to. um the oxygen levels that
you're speaking of when the phosphates
[10:08] and I mean we take we fight so hard to
take to to improve it something like
[10:15] that can take away
the efforts of so many people. So,
[10:20] » correct. And one of the concerns um I've
had in speaking with neighbors in town
[10:26] is look how easy it was for the zoning
to get changed at what's supposed to be
[10:32] the park and the farm and forest on
constellations property went from farm
[10:37] and forest straight to I2. So, it
doesn't take much to get land resoned.
[10:44] And we have all the things that that
data centers want. So, can they come in
[10:49] and start buying up property and saying,
"Well, you know, we're close enough."
[10:54] So, if you if you take this statement
and say, "We're going to protect
[10:58] Chesapeake Beach the way it is now," and
not permit them at all, then that will
[11:02] prevent a a a developer from eyeing
anywhere in our proximity because I
[11:08] literally said, "How did you choose this
park to come build a data center?" And
[11:13] the the gentleman who answered, he said
it's his job to so what he does is he
[11:18] looks first for the high voltage power
lines. They run right back there by um
[11:22] in Owings.
>> Then they look for water and water
[11:26] treatment facilities. We're one of the
few in the county that have them. And
[11:31] what what's happening with these data
centers is they once they get into a
[11:35] place, they don't stop. So they keep
coming and coming and coming and wanting
[11:40] more and wanting more and wanting more.
So we with this with with voting this in
[11:46] you're saying not here in Chesapeake
Beach. We're going to protect this for
[11:51] all of the future. So it's
there might be places that want data
[11:57] centers. There might be places where
they look at the revenue and they say,
[12:02] "Oh, how can we turn that down? How can
we how can we put what what we you know
[12:10] what this whole community was built on
at risk? So for me that's the question.
[12:15] I think you there are opportunities to
develop more tourism. Um especially if
[12:21] that ferry is going to come in, there's
going to need to be more than just the
[12:25] rod and reel in the water park. So
that's where we need to focus and and
[12:31] build up our our tourism and and you
guys have been done a great job with
[12:35] with increasing the activities that are
available for the parks and wreck and
[12:39] things at Kellum's Field. Those are all
amazing things. Um let's do more of that
[12:44] and and and have things that people want
to come see if this ferry system comes
[12:50] in. They don't want to see a a data
center. So
[12:54] » yeah, and and it's just the
infrastructure for like the highway
[12:59] systems, um the the transmission lines.
There's so many other things that uh
[13:06] that's what I've based my um my
decisions on and stuff like that. And
[13:12] and I I thank you for for
speaking out, but it we're not we're not
[13:18] trying to ostracize any one industry.
It's just we're also saying we're the
[13:23] caretakers of our Ches Bay and the bay
is is what we all kind of find to be our
[13:30] important and putting that decision
is sort of what makes me
[13:37] thank you.
>> All right. Thank you for speaking up.
[13:40] [clears throat]
Uh if there's nobody else that wants to
[13:43] speak up, we can adjourn for about uh 3
minutes until we start the regular
[13:47] meeting. So we'll adjourn for 3 minutes.
[13:58] I'm Sorry.
[16:07] This is a partial question.
[16:14] » Like to call to order the town council
meeting for August 20th, 2026.
[16:20] Uh we'll start with the pledge of
allegiance. If you would join me,
[16:22] please.
Aliance to the flag of the United States
[16:33] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice.
[16:41] » Uh, council, is there a motion to
approve the agenda?
[16:47] » Is there a second?
>> Second.
[16:49] » Motion to amend.
Go ahead
[16:53] to motion to amend the agenda to
reference the agenda that was sent to us
[17:00] on Friday and add new business.
Item number four and item number five. I
[17:09] can read them aloud if you would like.
was the uh item number four was to
[17:16] consider awarding
[17:21] to consider the award of concrete paving
contract to Cal Ready Mix Concrete
[17:25] Supplies LLC in the amount of $975,77.
[17:31] Item number five was town council to
consider the award of rail trail
[17:35] expansion to KCI
technologies in amount of 329,160,000.
[17:45] » Is there a second for the motion to
amend?
[17:49] » Uh I would like the motion for
discussion to ask why he believes that
[17:54] we should put that back. I think if
we're going to discuss it, we'd have to
[17:58] have a motion, a second to to the
motion.
[18:01] » Second the motion for discussion.
>> Okay. Now, you may ask your question.
[18:05] » So, please let us know why you believe
that we should be able to put that back
[18:09] on.
>> According to the email, uh it said
[18:13] uh basically we'll wait for the whole
council to be here for that. I have over
[18:19] the past few months uh done a lot of
research in regards to the storm water
[18:24] management plan and our
town and the process there that has
[18:31] slipped through that pro that there. Um
so I find that if we're going to alter
[18:37] the course um for one thing, we should
alter it for everything. if we're only
[18:42] going to have uh what the consensus
behind the scenes vote is and not allow
[18:49] the public business to be done in the
public. I that was the agenda that was
[18:54] sent then on Monday was re revised and
so I want to stay with the one that was
[18:59] sent.
>> Okay. And may I please ask um Melissa
[19:04] who sets the agenda for the
[19:10] » the agenda is set by the mayor and as
long as the uh agenda is published
[19:18] it um of course it's subject to a motion
to amend when it comes to you all.
[19:26] » You have a response to that Councilman
Devon?
[19:28] » Yeah I mean I have my vote. He has his
role and I have my role. So, I mean,
[19:32] I've made my motion. This is the motion
that I would be going to vote on. Right.
[19:39] So, we can vote on it.
>> Just want to make sure the paving
[19:41] schedule is not like timesensitive.
Do we have a certain timeline we have to
[19:46] have that um voted on by or?
>> We're not it we're not beholden to any
[19:54] particular timeline until we sign the
contract.
[19:58] Although I mean you want to be mindful
that the work needs to be done in the
[20:02] appropriate season, but we're not
beholdened to anything until the council
[20:06] votes to approve it and then town signs
off.
[20:10] » Okay. Any further comments or questions?
No, sir.
[20:12] » All right. Let's vote on the uh proposed
amendment. All in favor of the proposed
[20:17] amendment say I.
>> I.
[20:19] » Opposed to the proposed amendment say
no.
[20:22] » No.
>> Okay. the the amendment fails.
[20:27] All right. Um moving along. Uh we now
need I think a motion to approve the
[20:33] agenda as not amend not amended. So is
there a motion?
[20:39] » Motion to approve.
>> Is there a second?
[20:41] » Second.
>> All in favor say I.
[20:43] » I.
>> Opposed.
[20:44] » Opposed.
>> Okay. It passes 3 to one.
[20:48] » Um I believe we had um this discussion
before. It's the vote of what? The vote
[20:56] of the elected people. Remember we did
that when it came there.
[21:00] » So
it's How's that?
[21:04] » They're absent. They can't vote.
We have two members absent.
[21:09] » I think that's how the voting went.
That's a on the record. We'll we'll
[21:12] circle back to that.
>> Yeah. Yeah, there is. Yeah, I didn't
[21:19] think so. All right. This is the uh
uh opportunity for a public comment on
[21:25] any item on the agenda. Uh is there
anybody in the public that wishes to
[21:30] come forward and speak to the town
council? You'd be welcome to. Now is the
[21:34] time.
Seeing none,
[21:39] uh I'd ask the council uh for a motion
to approve the minutes of the July 16th,
[21:44] 2026 town council meeting. Is there a
motion to approve?
[21:48] » Motion to approve. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[21:51] » I oppose. I I want to discuss it. These
>> He said second, right?
[21:56] » Yeah, but I haven't called for the vote
yet. We have a motion and a second. I
[22:00] haven't called for the vote yet.
Now, do you want to make a comment?
[22:04] » Yes.
>> In the meeting,
[22:10] you'll notice that I on the approval of
the minutes for the July 7th, 20
[22:17] 26 I discussed how there was not items
properly recorded. The
[22:25] July 16th meeting again has that. This
is not the first time. Um
[22:33] the
at the end of the meeting we uh the
[22:38] mayor made a motion to
uh journ it was it was motion was made
[22:45] by Councilman Green. The mayor called
for a second and then he goes, "Oh, I
[22:50] forgot I did something." Um and then we
went to close session. We never pulled
[22:55] that off. The minutes don't reflect it.
Also, um, when we had the lightning
[23:00] round, the mayor read a public comment
and then engaged with a public works
[23:04] administrator on it. When I asked what
the merits were that, uh, the mayor
[23:09] said, "Well, cuz I'm sitting in this
seat and I'm the HOA president."
[23:14] We uh were told not to comment uh on
public comment the previous month. Um,
[23:23] also after the motion was made for close
session, I made a discussion.
[23:29] None of that was recorded in these
minutes.
[23:34] » How would you like to rectify that,
Councilman Dubo?
[23:36] » Oh, I'm going to vote against these
minutes. Um, it's not
[23:41] it's I believe been established that the
mayor and administrator are the one who
[23:47] keep track of these. I've objected last
month to items being missed. I'm
[23:51] objecting again this month.
>> But after the objection, will you be
[23:55] making sure that um our town clerk gets
what you want to have reflected in the
[23:59] minutes or
>> according to the email sent by the
[24:02] mayor, everything has to run through
him.
[24:05] » Okay. Well, will you be submitting to
the mayor? I
[24:08] » I've submitted different things to him.
I get no response.
[24:11] » So, in all in all due respect, I I hear
what you're saying and I respect that.
[24:15] But the the course of action to correct
it or anything that has to be done on
[24:19] our end has to also be a part of the
conversation. So I I I hear what you're
[24:24] saying and I understand it.
>> There needs to be a specific motion to
[24:28] amend the agenda to say X or Y
>> right now. That's the point. Yeah.
[24:33] » Okay.
You ready to vote? Move on. What are we
[24:37] doing? Well, let's I guess
[24:44] we could uh
[24:54] » they're incorrect. They're in they're
incorrect.
[24:56] » Okay. So, we can make the vote here,
move on from here, and if you have
[24:59] something that we want to make sure
that's in the minutes, then we can put
[25:02] that in
>> and make sure it's reflected. Or you can
[25:05] turn that in to the mayor to make sure
that you do have it documented, that you
[25:08] have your changes where where you want
them to be.
[25:11] » All right. I'll make sure.
>> All right. Cool.
[25:16] » All right.
Have a motion. Second.
[25:21] » You got a motion?
>> Second. All in favor? I
[25:23] » I opposed. Approve the minutes. Yes,
>> that that's where I thought we were.
[25:28] Yes.
>> Get a little off track here. All right.
[25:32] This is the time that the public can
make a comment on any item that's on the
[25:36] agenda if there's any
>> I'm sorry, what?
[25:42] » No, we did that already. We have to do
the close session andformational work
[25:45] session um approval.
>> Oh, okay. All right.
[25:52] Um, so that was the that's what we just
did.
[25:56] » Yes.
>> Okay. So now we need to approve the
[25:59] minutes of the July 16th close session.
>> Motion to approve.
[26:03] » There's a second.
>> Second.
[26:05] » All in favor? I
>> hold on discussion that that the close
[26:08] session minutes are incorrect, too.
There was a lot of items that were
[26:14] misinterpreted and
[26:25] the attorney attorney has just informed
us that that it is inappropriate to
[26:30] discuss any minutes of the closed
session in the public session. So the
[26:35] way that would have to be handled if
there is an objection on close session
[26:40] minutes I think would be that the motion
would be to defer approval of the close
[26:50] session minutes. Um and then comment
would be directed to the clerk
[26:59] as to what a particular member believed
was missing or incorrect in those
[27:04] minutes. And then um
uh that that content can be communicated
[27:12] to the council. And then in the next
meeting when the closed session minutes
[27:17] come back on, you can either say that
the minutes are amended per the comments
[27:26] of the council member or not.
>> So no action at this particular time.
[27:33] » Well, there first needs to be a motion
to defer
[27:36] » Okay.
>> the vote.
[27:39] [clears throat]
>> All right. Is there a motion to defer
[27:42] approval of the minutes?
>> Weren't we in the motion to approve it?
[27:45] So, we'd have to remove that emotion.
[27:50] » No, no,
>> we already we already motioned and
[27:53] approved, but you came in. So, your
motion is to figure out if you want to
[27:56] defer or not right now.
[28:01] » Hearing nothing.
Um, can we have a vote on approval of
[28:07] the minutes of the closed session?
>> Favor. All
[28:10] » in favor say I.
>> I.
[28:13] » Laura.
>> Three in favor, one opposed. Motion. The
[28:17] motion passes.
All right. Next. Approval of the minutes
[28:23] of the August 11th, 2026formational work
session. Is there a motion to approve?
[28:27] » Motion to approve.
>> Is there a second?
[28:30] » Second.
>> Second. Any discussion?
[28:34] All in favor say I. I.
>> Opposed. The eyes have it.
[28:40] All right, we're down to petitions and
communications. Town administrative
[28:43] report. Smeilia.
>> Thank you.
[28:47] » The town administrator's report was
submitted um as a part of the agenda
[28:53] package. Um, of note, just wanted to uh
flag that we um will be we've updated
[29:01] the
neighborhood connectivity page on the uh
[29:07] project's dashboard that you can find on
the town website. Um, and there's also a
[29:12] a new survey that's been added there.
So, if there's public interest in areas
[29:16] that have not already been highlighted,
you can um submit your thoughts on that
[29:21] page.
Um, additionally, um, we will be talking
[29:27] at the work session, um, more about
software that we're, the town's going to
[29:31] has been acquiring. Um, it's a program
called Violytics and it will help public
[29:37] works with our asset management. Um, so
it's a really um, interesting software
[29:42] and we've invited the representative
from Violytics to come and give a
[29:47] presentation at our next work session.
[29:52] Um,
[29:55] outside of that, I'm happy to take
questions if there are any questions.
[30:00] » Yeah, I had asked for a compiled list of
all outstanding Zen disc tickets,
[30:05] especially after the um multiple year um
item that was brought forth to us from
[30:12] the residents on 15th Street and the
closure of the stairs. Um, I don't see
[30:17] that there. I mean, we are in the
thousands and uh I'm pretty sure we have
[30:23] not resolved them. We should be aware of
what items are being given attention and
[30:28] what items are not being given
attention. Sure. So, I believe that it
[30:33] was shared with the council that we have
been in conversations with 15th Street.
[30:37] » I was discussing the um the Zenesk to
having a open Zenesk ticket summary.
[30:45] That's what I was saying.
So with Zindesk,
[30:49] um there is a section at the beginning
of the town administrator's report that
[30:53] tells you the number of tickets that
were created for that time period, the
[30:56] number of tickets that were resolved in
that time period, and the tickets that
[31:00] remain outstanding.
So because Zind Zenesk is used for a
[31:04] multitude of reasons, I don't think it's
appropriate to list all of those uh
[31:09] tickets that come in. Um, so if there is
a request to change the way that it's
[31:14] um, presented, we can talk through that,
but I don't think that it would be
[31:18] appropriate to display all the
outstanding tickets um, specifically
[31:23] because some of them um, have sensitive
information in them. If there is a
[31:28] specific ticket that you have a question
about, whoever submitted it is always
[31:33] welcome to uh email in to get updates on
their tickets, but they also are able to
[31:39] log in and see the status of things if
it's in progress, if it's been closed
[31:43] out. Um, if you are referring like to
15th Street, which is the example that
[31:48] you used, uh, the council has already
been provided an update as to what's
[31:52] happening with 15th Street. Um and we
have been in communication with the
[31:57] residents that uh flagged concern um and
are actively working and scheduling uh
[32:04] resolutions as it pertains to that.
I think the what I'm discussing is that
[32:11] the fact that it had been going on for
years, the fact that there was um I
[32:16] guess the survey it was the last
administration, this administration,
[32:21] there was uh
there was the uh
[32:30] it was in the report, but it was in the
report so vague that that who couldn't
[32:35] be reasonably expected to piece together
the breadcrumbs of the of it in the
[32:40] report. I I feel that if there's items
like this, we don't need to list
[32:48] important or confidential information.
Well, we should have a summary of list.
[32:52] So there's 67 unresolved tickets from
here. But so after August 13th, they
[32:58] just there's no update on these tickets.
So the unresolved tickets that just they
[33:03] just sit there and it gets forgotten.
And I think that's what I've been saying
[33:07] where people are feeling that they have
to fend for themselves. The Zenesk
[33:13] is a great asset. I appreciate it.
But I think that in light of the
[33:19] situation
that's been 3 or 4 years in the works
[33:24] that it we should definitely get a a a
current status of all these open
[33:32] categories or whatever. kind of see
what's going on. If we have somebody
[33:36] that's x amount of years engagement, we
should know about that stuff.
[33:42] » Thank you. Uh just I I receive your uh
thoughts and I appreciate your
[33:48] perspective. Um just so that we're
clear, when it came to 15th Street, the
[33:53] ticket for Zenesk did not come in um
until very recently. However, the 15th
[33:59] Street topic has been on the town
administrator's report for more than a
[34:02] year. So, I receive what you're saying
and I understand your perspective
[34:07] » and and whether people realize it or
not, this is in support of what you are
[34:13] doing. I mean, this is
it's such a an example that I've I've
[34:20] tell everybody use the info ticket. That
info isn't just a
[34:27] a dismissal. It has substance to it. I I
don't This is me advocating for that.
[34:33] Like you're correct. It wasn't I was
like you have to use the info and until
[34:39] it has the info who's in charge of it is
whether it's even going to an email it's
[34:46] registered you know. So
>> all right folks that was your Zenesk
[34:51] commercial. So please use it. Thank you.
>> info at speaker.
[34:55] » All right. I have uh two things mostly
related to the water park. Um one is I
[35:03] just wanted to um request that we had a
couple requests from the water park
[35:06] committee meeting to add the um like
concept plans to the the landing page.
[35:11] » Yeah,
>> that's that's pretty straightforward.
[35:14] And the other one was for the what's it
called? Biolytics.
[35:18] I was wondering if we could that's for
asset management. So, I was wondering if
[35:23] we could uh maybe request Shel or
Paddock to give us some sort of
[35:28] preventative maintenance program for the
water park features so that we can add
[35:31] that to the asset suite management
>> program so that we know what to budget
[35:37] for and what what stuff needs to be
refurbished [clears throat]
[35:41] and maintained so that we can budget
and keep the park going for 40 50 years.
[35:49] » [clears throat]
>> Uh Wayne or not, Josh, what do you guys
[35:53] use for the treatment plant for your
asset management?
[35:58] » Uh we utilize Antaro offered by from
Almax.
[36:02] » Um
>> for the water park, it would probably
[36:05] work. Um if you start adding, we found
issues when you start adding too many
[36:10] items in there that the database would
start to bog down. But for what would be
[36:16] at the water park, it may be effective.
>> Okay. So maybe we could look at that ant
[36:20] or biolytics for the water park.
Whatever works best. Yeah.
[36:25] » All right. Thanks. That's all I got.
>> All right.
[36:32] » Um just just because it's not
[36:39] » could you speak up, please?
>> Can you can you is your microphone? Um,
[36:45] are there any can you just provide the
latest update on the Chesake Village
[36:48] sidewalk?
>> We have not heard back from SHA
[36:51] regarding our grant yet. They told us
that we could expect to hear something
[36:55] mid to late September. So, that's when
I'm expecting to hear back from them.
[36:59] » Okay. Um, I just wanted to reiterate
that cuz the it's on the engineers
[37:04] report, but it's not anywhere on the
town administrator's report that we are
[37:08] in application for a grant. Is that that
is correct? this on the it should be on
[37:14] the
>> I think it says site site visit or
[37:17] something conducted. Yeah. So
>> because that was the last um update that
[37:22] we had but they came and they did the
site visit. We spoke with them. They
[37:26] said we will follow up with you mid to
late September. So it's reflected on the
[37:30] report. That's the last conversation
that I've had with them.
[37:34] » Okay. So you expect to hear from SHA in
September.
[37:38] » That is what they communicated with us
when they were on site. So that's my
[37:41] expectation.
>> Okay. So if we don't hear that before
[37:44] the September meeting, could you please
add that update that we're waiting for
[37:48] them in September to your
administrator's report?
[37:50] » Absolutely.
>> Thank you very much.
[37:53] » Um the $120,000
program open space allocation. Has a
[37:58] project been identified for that yet or
have we um
[38:03] » will that come because I know there's
some people that maybe could use that
[38:06] money.
I will need to follow up with Dan right
[38:09] now because he is our um point of
contact for program open space now.
[38:14] » Um but the last update he provided me
was that that was what we were expecting
[38:19] to get once the money was allocated and
I haven't received the official
[38:23] notification that it was officially
allocated yet.
[38:26] » And is it general or earmarked? And I
don't have a preference
[38:31] specifically. I'm just curious if it is.
>> It's general. I mean, we do submit in
[38:36] our application projects that we would
like to apply the funds towards. Um, in
[38:41] the past, I think the way that the grant
was administered, you just kind of said,
[38:45] "These are the projects of interest that
we're focused on, and they would put
[38:48] that in the letter as a whole."
>> So, what I would anticipate is that they
[38:52] would expect for us to apply the funds
to the money that we identified in our
[38:56] application as priority projects.
>> Okay.
[39:00] Um,
>> but there's no like set amount that we
[39:03] have to apply to each project.
>> Gotcha.
[39:07] » Okay. I'll [snorts] have to review those
again. Okay.
[39:10] » I recall some but not all of them.
>> Um, Kellb was included on that.
[39:15] » Yes.
>> Okay. Um,
[39:20] for the 15 street steps, are you willing
to put yourself on some kind of um
[39:25] decision matrix so that talk isn't like
the constant
[39:30] update like if we arrive here then we
have these two decisions. I mean it's
[39:36] got to go forward somehow.
>> Yeah.
[39:41] » Okay. All right. [clears throat] Oh u
any further information that the town
[39:47] wants to provide can only help my
understanding of the situation.
[39:55] » Yes.
Um, and then I saw that um, the
[40:03] courtyards were on the code enforcement
report and I've refrained from asking
[40:09] about them for a long time, but there is
a a very conspicuous situation over
[40:15] there. Yeah.
>> Um,
[40:18] » can you provide any updates on that?
>> I do. you want to think about.
[40:26] » So the town has a responsibility to make
sure that we are enforcing these code
[40:30] violations that come up. So that's they
were cited um to have a code violation
[40:35] because they are currently violating
code. Um we have spoken with them and
[40:40] understand that the um nonprofit that
owns the courtyards is having some
[40:45] challenges moving through um the cycle
with DHC to get the approval to
[40:50] demolish. And so we met with their
president um on Wednesday
[40:57] um to figure out how the town can
partner with the courtyards to
[41:02] » the company
>> the company that owns them to move the
[41:06] project forward. Um from the town's
perspective, I think their their holdup
[41:11] is they need architectural renderings in
order to be able to get the approval to
[41:16] demolish. Um, and so and they don't have
or didn't have the funds to to procure
[41:22] that. And so they were kind of between a
rock and a hard a hard place is the way
[41:27] they explained it to us. Um, because
they couldn't get the permission to
[41:31] demolish until they had this
architectural rendering and then they
[41:34] couldn't get the money to get the
architectural rendering and unless they
[41:38] had the the money that comes from DHCD.
And so it's kind of this uh this vicious
[41:43] cycle. And so the town is trying to do
what we can to help um con yeah
[41:48] facilitate and convey um the importance
of addressing this um quickly or as
[41:55] quickly as possible given that we're
almost at a year of the incident. Um
[42:01] understanding that we have a unique role
because it is privately owned.
[42:08] » Um yeah, I' I'd be interested. I mean,
it's another one of those things that
[42:13] needs to be sped along, maybe needs a
little bit more attention and um effort
[42:18] and an understanding of what other
places have done and what is the real
[42:22] expectation to have a
>> Did you want to say something?
[42:26] » And at this point, building
>> um standing in that manner.
[42:35] The municipal infractions
process
[42:39] takes time. There's a
when there's an infraction, I'm not
[42:45] addressing these particular
property maintenance problem. A code
[42:52] compliance person
issues a notice to the property owner
[42:56] that the violation exists and gives them
a reasonable
[43:04] for um 30 days that citation goes to
court and then it gets scheduled for
[43:09] review. So um it has
frames built into there that
[43:17] or I mean they just are what they are.
Um, so I don't know where these
[43:22] citations are in the process, but they
will go to court if they remain unpaid
[43:25] enough.
There are processes that can be invoked
[43:32] outside of the municipal
process in some circumstances when you
[43:38] have a building that has an in.
[43:48] » Yeah. And that is a conversation.
[43:53] They're just um
both sides that we need to keep.
[43:57] » I understand and I'm I'm for
collaborative and and you know creative
[44:02] solutions to solve a problem. But um
it's it's
[44:06] » be heard. I'm sorry. I'm getting signals
from the back that nobody was able to
[44:10] hear you.
>> Okay. Now, okay. So,
[44:14] » all right. I can't
>> in my face. [laughter] So that that
[44:18] particular building is inhabitated. So
that's that's not that problem. But
[44:23] » we didn't hear her. Could she repeat it
so the public could be heard for report
[44:27] it? Because nobody heard what her we
heard it but the public didn't.
[44:31] » I said was
the municipal infraction process takes
[44:36] time. There are time frames built into
the process that are just what they are.
[44:42] Um it can only be expedited so much. So,
when an infraction occurs, the a code
[44:50] compliance officer, and I'm speaking
generally, I'm not speaking about these
[44:53] citations,
a code compliance officer will issue a
[44:58] notice to the property owner and give
them the opportunity to correct the
[45:01] violation. And then if the violations
aren't corrected, a citation is written
[45:05] and that citation goes to court after a
period of time and then there's a a
[45:09] trial scheduled, a process over which
the town has very little control. I also
[45:15] said that there are certain
circumstances under which um other
[45:20] processes outside of the municipal
infraction process um can be pursued but
[45:26] I don't know that this particular
situation is one of those and we want to
[45:31] be careful about pursuing remedies that
result in displacement of people and
[45:35] then I suggested that I would have
further conversation offline.
[45:39] » Thank you.
>> Yes, that that's that's fine. And my my
[45:44] u point in bringing it up is because it
does need some attention. I haven't
[45:48] heard about it in a long time. So if
you're addressing it, that's great. But
[45:52] um
>> and we met just this week with the the
[45:55] property manager or the the president of
the corporation
[45:59] » and just to um just for clarification,
we were under the what in the last
[46:05] conversations that we had with them in
July, June and July was that they were
[46:10] going to present their bid for
demolition and repair and that they were
[46:15] going to hear back the middle of July.
Right? So we had this conversation in
[46:20] June. Um, and that's what we were
expecting. And when they heard back,
[46:24] they got the news that they couldn't
move forward in the way that they had
[46:28] originally anticipated. And so that's
part of what the delay has been is that
[46:33] they were expecting to be able to do
something that they did not get approval
[46:36] to do. And it took them a while to hear
back from them. And so when they reached
[46:40] out to us and said, "Well, you know, we
we understand we're working. We're
[46:44] trying to do everything we can, but we
have a limited staff. We have limited
[46:48] funds. and is there anything the town
can do to help support? And so that's
[46:51] that's where we are now. Um and we have
been trying to um approach it as
[46:57] humanely as possibly uh or humanely as
possible when it comes to um
[47:03] navigating this process with them
because we understand that it's
[47:06] challenging, right? They're trying to
navigate through what the requirements
[47:10] are with the town, the county, the
state. Um and they're trying to do that
[47:15] with limited resources. But it we got to
a point with the code enforcement
[47:19] violation that we we have an obligation
to make sure that we're uh stewarding
[47:25] the town well. So this is that's kind of
where we why we are where we are now. We
[47:28] expected to be further along because
they were communicating that the plan
[47:33] they had in place would have taken root
earlier.
[47:38] » Um sounds good. And I would just suggest
that like any of these types of updates
[47:42] that you could just send to us without
bringing every single issue to a public
[47:47] meeting
>> will only help us inform the residents
[47:50] that care. I think this is an issue that
a lot of people care about which is why
[47:53] I brought it up. But there are many
issues that
[47:56] » only certain people might care about and
the more we know the better we can.
[48:01] » We we received that update in the town
administrative report last month about
[48:05] what happened [clears throat] with where
they are right now. actually.
[48:09] » So,
>> uh, no, we didn't receive all those
[48:11] details or we didn't receive going
forward details, but um,
[48:16] » all right, [snorts] let's move
>> missed it.
[48:18] » The
item that stood out to me um, with
[48:23] Fishing Creek is that
you have to look at the surrounding. You
[48:29] have a top lot.
You have the buildings around there that
[48:35] have children that live in them. And
there is no fencing around that
[48:43] um
building that burned down. Um it needs
[48:47] to be demoed, but it also needs to be
safe. Kids are curious, you know. Um
[48:55] it it should be at least the minimum is
to have a fence in place. If you go on
[49:04] the rail trail towards Richfield
Station, they just have stub-ups,
[49:08] plumbing stub-ups, and they've had a
fence there for years.
[49:14] I know they want to cut the grass, and
it's inconveniencing,
[49:18] but I think our job is make sure that no
curious kids get hurt.
[49:28] » All right.
>> Is there any comment on that or just
[49:31] ignored?
A lot of times my
[49:34] » a lot of times I just get nothing gets
answered.
[49:37] » It is heard. Dan,
>> may I interject for a moment? Ma'am,
[49:42] please do. M um do we I I think the
question is if it is a public uh safety
[49:50] hazard, does the town has any
jurisdiction or or ability to step in
[49:56] based on on the idea of making sure the
public is safe or is that something that
[50:01] we defer to the owners of the property?
I think that would be an appropo
[50:05] question so that it could be an
actionable item from the the topic you
[50:09] just brought up. Do we have anybody that
can answer that today or can we get the
[50:13] answer at another time?
I
[50:16] » think there is an answer to that, but we
can get it another time.
[50:19] » Exactly. Yes.
>> Thank you. Okay.
[50:25] » All right. We're going to move on to the
treasur's report. The treasurer is on
[50:28] vacation,
but you have the printed report in your
[50:32] packets. Um, and I think from what I
see, um, we're okay. Anybody
[50:41] got any questions or comments on this uh
printed report?
[50:44] » Yes,
>> my questions to Dan.
[50:47] » Okay, that'll be great. All right, well
let's move on to the next item which is
[50:53] public works report and Jay is here to
give us the public report. Go ahead,
[50:58] Jay.
>> Um, nothing too notable. A lot going on.
[51:06] I'm just saying that you have the
report. I'll take any questions. I mean,
[51:09] there's a lot there's always a lot going
on, but there's really a lot going on.
[51:13] So, maybe some of the questions will
answer.
[51:16] » If I answer them, I'll answer everyone's
question. If there's no questions, we
[51:19] can move on.
>> I do not have any questions for you.
[51:23] » Thank you.
>> You're welcome.
[51:25] » I uh I presented some information
regards to storm water management plan
[51:29] and the administration of that. I have
asked about the inspections. I know
[51:34] Wayne wasn't here at the last meeting.
Where are we at with inspecting our
[51:39] storm water management on our on our
town roads and making sure that things
[51:44] are in operating condition. There was no
last month there was no inspections
[51:52] being done. That was the status. I
followed up with Cal County cuz they're
[51:55] the administrator of our
land. That's what we deferred in 2003.
[52:02] Have Have you done anything on that? I
can speak to that Wayne if you want to
[52:07] follow up. So I wouldn't necessarily say
they're administrator. We adopted their
[52:12] plan uh in 2003 and this is the the
first year did we did budget $100,000
[52:20] this year uh for storm water inspections
before there was really no budget for
[52:24] it. So I am aware working with Wayne on
28th Street 27th Street we've done some
[52:31] surveys we replace some culvert
projects. There are a lot of storm
[52:35] waters that are older in town. We have
inspected, haven't came some working
[52:39] with the engineer, but it it comes into
a global situation
[52:45] of areas what we need to look at. It
involves a coastal resiliency,
[52:50] especially on the north end of town.
There's a lot of pieces to that puzzle.
[52:53] We can as public works kind of go and
camera and inspect which we do known
[52:58] deficiencies or broke pipes. But as far
as the ultimate infrastructure plan and
[53:03] how we implement it and what we do,
that's something that's going to take
[53:06] collaboration council
where they want to start, what they want
[53:10] to focus on, what's the highest
priority, and then we can initiate,
[53:14] I'm going to say a a global plan if
that's what we want to do. As far as
[53:18] what we do now, if it's broke, we fix
it. I'm not looking proactively to go
[53:21] out
and install major infrastructure um
[53:26] unless it's something we decide to do.
From when I talked to the uh the
[53:36] guy at Ky County Public Works in charge
of storm water,
[53:43] he looped in the public works
administrator there. It sounds like the
[53:50] process and the procedures that we're
doing, we're not following the plan as
[53:56] outlined that we we're that oversees us.
Like that's the plan of the operating
[54:02] how we're supposed to handle and we're
not doing that. Um where you propose to
[54:08] uh pave D Street, there's no way that's
not even allowed. Like that wouldn't
[54:12] that shouldn't even been been proposed
according to Cal County's plan. So, uh,
[54:17] we're not following what we're supposed
to.
[54:21] » Well, I would advise you put in writing
what you think we're not following and
[54:24] how you would fix it. Otherwise, I'm
going to keep doing what I'm doing.
[54:28] Otherwise, if you have a plan or
something you want to do or someone
[54:31] specifically you talk to where the town
didn't do something right, let me know
[54:35] cuz I'm not aware of anything we did on
D Street.
[54:39] Are you?
>> Well, there was a petition, but that's
[54:43] fine. That's
>> even the proposal of that has an entire
[54:47] process before you can even propose to
do something like that and and for that
[54:51] to be have come and to take our time as
a council for for you not to know that
[54:56] that's concerning.
>> Well well then maybe you should run for
[54:59] mayor Dan and do something about it.
>> That's your answer. Cool.
[55:03] » It is. Thank you.
>> All right. And I just I don't I I don't
[55:08] get to praise Jay publicly enough and I
did pepper him with a lot of um
[55:14] background questions for um you know
budgetary items which is my job.
[55:20] » Understand?
>> But um thank you for the benches. Um
[55:25] they're all new and that you know and I
know all of those things take time and
[55:30] work and uh they look great. Um the
maintenance at the tennis courts has
[55:35] been outstanding. Like the trash is
never full. Like everything's clean.
[55:39] It's it's great. Um and everybody
appreciates that. Thank you for that. Um
[55:45] I'll ask you all, you know, questions
about other things later like lights and
[55:50] all that stuff because I know you've
given um updates on that already. Um and
[55:56] then the maintenance of the Kudzu this
year has been way better than so many
[56:02] other years. So, whoever's managing that
um is doing a very good job. And um I
[56:09] did not make it home today after work.
So, um I'm just wondering what's going
[56:14] on with the sidewalks in our
neighborhood.
[56:18] » So, that's that's just failed pieces
remove and replace where there's a trip
[56:22] hazard. We go out once a year, look for
issues over a half an inch discrepancy,
[56:27] and if we can grind them, we have a
company that does that. if they're
[56:30] settled too much or cracked, we replace
them. So, you know, I will say compared
[56:36] to Richfield Station and other
developments because we were there, I
[56:38] was there during the inspection phase,
it's it's very nominal compared to other
[56:42] developments cuz, you know, Wayne and I
worked with developers, the prior
[56:46] engineer, and I'm going to say they were
installed, right? So, it's it's just
[56:52] something we do as a maintenance.
>> Okay. So, did did they are they done
[56:56] now? cuz I I've read that.
>> Well, they were actually supposed to
[56:58] pour them today, but they had the
concrete truck broke down. Uh they they
[57:02] notified me and they're set up to start
pouring tomorrow at 9:00. So, they'll
[57:06] pour them tomorrow. It'll set up and
they'll probably remove the forms Friday
[57:10] and um or Saturday morning. That'll be
it.
[57:13] » Okay. So, that's just normal
maintenance. Nothing from IQ Fiber or
[57:17] anything like that. It's just regular
routine.
[57:20] » Correct. They're they're actually
scheduled to do it last month, but they
[57:23] had um some prior commitments and
different things that fell behind. So,
[57:28] um they're out here now. Next, they're
going to the heritage.
[57:32] » Well, thank you for doing that
maintenance and thank you for all that
[57:36] you do.
>> And thank you. And I would like to say,
[57:38] Lori, I appreciate the fact that you
recognize something and you say, "Hey,
[57:42] Jay, I recognize this. Here's what I
want to do. You tell me how to fund it.
[57:46] You know, I can only make so many
decisions." I think anybody can sit out
[57:49] here and point out every problem the
town ever did for the last 50 years.
[57:53] Does that move us forward? Not sure. But
if that's your focus, let me know and
[57:58] I'll and I'll tell you how I can go back
and fix that, too.
[58:01] » Okay.
>> Thank you.
[58:02] » The uh the fitness court, it might be
more of a Wayne thing, but I see we've
[58:07] got most of the parts and equipment
here. Um is the location of that pretty
[58:12] like set in stone? Have we talked with
the beach buccaneers like what would
[58:15] work best for them on the location of
that?
[58:18] » Yeah, so we submitted a plan to the
columns committee to show where that is.
[58:22] In general, it's the same location we
showed it in the last master plan.
[58:25] » Okay.
>> We did refine it a little bit as we get
[58:27] into detailed design. And I can talk a
little bit more about it in my report to
[58:30] get into details. But yes, it's defined.
Yes, it's graded. Yes, it's ready to go
[58:34] be permitted. We just need someone to
review it and prove it to make sure that
[58:38] it's where you want it. And and to add,
the Beach Buccaneers were definitely
[58:42] considered in placement. So that was a
part of the the work that was done.
[58:45] » The Beach Buccaneers uh leadership about
it.
[58:49] » So it's waiting on the state right now
for permitting or
[58:52] » No, I'll just do it now. I was going to
do my report. Um
[58:55] » we were waiting for geotech a geotech
report. My report says it was due on the
[58:59] 14th. We got it on the 15th. Uh we are
working on the foundation as we've
[59:04] talked about over in Kellum's even with
the top lot previously. There's base
[59:08] stabilization issues. We've heard about
at the water park, right? That's that
[59:11] was that's the the ground out there is
not the best ground. In fact, for the
[59:15] top lot we raised at 2 feet. We're doing
something similar here. Uh we received
[59:19] the geotech report last week. We're
working with the geotech now to figure
[59:22] out what the best solution is to
stabilize that base. The last thing we
[59:25] all want to do is put a a fitness pad
out there and have it crack up. And
[59:28] that's not what we're going to do. Um so
we have a solution for that and we're
[59:31] implementing it now. Um and once that's
implemented, we'll be ready to go go for
[59:35] permits and get get that thing built.
All right. Thanks.
[59:40] » All right. Let's move on to the water
reclamation treatment plant report. Sir,
[59:49] » good evening.
>> Evening.
[59:50] » Um, you all have my report. I don't
really have any updates on anything else
[59:54] in there. So, if you have any questions,
feel free.
[59:57] » I'm I'm uh I'm always impressed with the
level of detail that you put in your
[1:00:03] reports. I think it's very useful for us
to know and I'm glad that Jay is
[1:00:07] following in your footsteps by putting
more photographs in his reports. I think
[1:00:12] he learned that from you. So, I'm glad
to see everybody working together and
[1:00:16] it's all for the benefit of the citizens
of the town. But this is for those of
[1:00:21] you that haven't seen this report, it's
very detailed and uh uh if anybody's got
[1:00:27] any real questions about it, um he's
here to answer. So,
[1:00:33] » just want to point out it looks like the
uh control system upgrade went well and
[1:00:37] you're seeing some benefits of that. So,
that's great to hear.
[1:00:39] » Uh for both the PLC's for the main
system and also we had a unplanned
[1:00:45] schedule or project we got done for the
uh aation blowers and that's actually
[1:00:48] working quite well now.
>> That's great. And you had to use the
[1:00:53] overflow the big tank.
>> Yes. That rainfall on the 21st that was
[1:00:57] pretty substantial rain. Everybody here
is probably aware of that. Yeah.
[1:01:00] » Um, we saw what the flow issues were. We
took did my hourly data from each uh
[1:01:07] flow source and I sent reports off to
each partner just say, "Hey, here's
[1:01:11] here's what we saw um just for their
information."
[1:01:15] » And we had a recent partner meeting.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:01:17] » And um I I sat in on that and I want to
say that um from when we took office to
[1:01:25] now, things have settled down a lot. our
partners seem to be happy with what's
[1:01:31] going on and so um I'm I'm actually kind
of proud that that we're moving that
[1:01:36] forward and I appreciate everything that
that you're doing in your leadership
[1:01:41] role.
>> Thank you.
[1:01:42] » I really love this. It's it's like
really my wheelhouse. I kind of nerd out
[1:01:46] about it a little bit. [laughter]
>> Well, for me it reads like an action
[1:01:49] adventure. Um, [laughter]
>> we we had some interesting things that
[1:01:55] the the issue with that number three
filter effluent valve that the the whole
[1:02:01] visualizing what occurred there. I
couldn't help but go into like something
[1:02:04] straight out of um Oh, now my brain
ain't going to work. Um,
[1:02:08] » adventure.
>> Yeah, pretty much. It was an interesting
[1:02:11] evening on that one.
>> Yeah, it's it's Yeah, you did some
[1:02:15] investigating. Was was that under
warranty or No,
[1:02:18] » no, that's not under warranty. Th those
actuators have been there for a long
[1:02:21] time. Uh it was just an unfortunate
series of events. That eyewash station
[1:02:26] been there for 10 years. The way that
you drain and refill those eyewash
[1:02:31] stations every 6 months. You pull the
caps off you and the water drains
[1:02:34] across. So somehow over 20 times that
being done over 10 years
[1:02:40] was never an issue. This one time was a
problem. We got it moved. It's not going
[1:02:44] to be a problem in the future.
Well, if anybody buys you a Christmas
[1:02:48] present this year, it should be a sleuth
hat because [clears throat]
[1:02:51] [laughter]
>> troubleshooting is fun.
[1:02:53] » Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then I wanted to say
that the I think you said two minute or
[1:02:57] five minute training is such a great way
to train and I read that's how you train
[1:03:02] each day like a little quick five minute
training and
[1:03:05] » yeah, we do once a week. We have a whole
slew of different topics that we go
[1:03:10] through. Um, and sometimes like for
electrical safety, it'll be a topic a
[1:03:16] week for about a month or two where
we're going through different small
[1:03:20] topics on that just overview what the
the operators would need to know um in
[1:03:25] regards to the OSHA 1910 standard which
is the one that we follow. Um, and then
[1:03:30] multiple other things like uh heat heat
exposure, cold weather, um, try and set
[1:03:35] them up to where they kind of fit with
the the time of the year. We have stuff
[1:03:39] for um hazardous animals. You may run
across, snakes, spiders, stuff like that
[1:03:45] that usually do that at the end of the
spring. Same with uh poisonous plants. I
[1:03:49] mean, we go across a whole wide gamut of
stuff.
[1:03:52] » Yeah. Very cool. That's a super smart
way to to train your staff with, you
[1:03:57] know, not taking up too much time and um
>> right
[1:04:00] » getting some repetition in. So, yeah,
I'm always interested in your report. I
[1:04:03] never comment, so I I've made a
commitment to highlight and comment. I
[1:04:07] also wanted to say in um
>> just highlight just for real highlight.
[1:04:12] » I don't always highlight it. Um but um I
don't know if you miss it or not, but I
[1:04:18] will take up Jer uh Larry Jorski's
mantle and say congratulations on no SSO
[1:04:25] spells.
>> Thank you.
[1:04:26] » Yeah, absolutely.
[laughter]
[1:04:29] » Every every month.
>> Every month. That's great. Anybody else
[1:04:32] got any questions?
>> Yeah, one more. Do we have any movement
[1:04:34] on the grant for the uh the headworks?
>> We're slowly working on that. I did
[1:04:39] reach out to Mcronone. There's some
documents we would need when we start
[1:04:44] moving forward with uh looking at the um
congressional directed spending. Uh just
[1:04:49] documents that they would need to
provide that would have to fit into
[1:04:53] qualify for that. Uh we're slowly moving
forward. We're hoping to start having
[1:04:58] some site visits in the fall is what's
recommended. So hopefully we'll be
[1:05:03] getting going on that and hopefully
it'll go in the right direction. Fingers
[1:05:06] » crossed.
>> We just got updated cost on that. I'm g
[1:05:09] go off the top of my head. It went from
3.2 million to about 5.4.
[1:05:13] » So the costs are not going to go down.
But that project we need to get going on
[1:05:16] it. Um because we're we're going to wind
up having an issue eventually.
[1:05:25] » Any question? Any other questions? All
right. Thank you, sir. Good report as
[1:05:30] always.
on the engineers report. Wayne,
[1:05:35] » thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, you have my
report. Just a couple updates. Um, the
[1:05:39] water park continues to change weekly
since this was written 812. Um, in this
[1:05:45] report, it talked about value
engineering meetings we held with Shyel
[1:05:48] for phase 2 construction. Uh, on 8 723
and 7:30. We also have one last week.
[1:05:54] Uh, don't have a final budget yet, but
we're getting close for phase 2
[1:05:56] construction. Uh phase one demo of
course is continuing getting ready to do
[1:06:01] power restrikes and test piles should be
should be should be happening this week.
[1:06:05] Um other updates I already talked about
a little bit with the um
[1:06:10] uh Kellum's master plan for the fitness
pad. We already gave you that one. Uh
[1:06:14] rail trail RFP. I did hold the
interviews with uh KCI who you'll see is
[1:06:18] recommended in your in your packet or
was it's now now removed. Um so we can
[1:06:22] have that conversation when you're
ready. I am ready to have that
[1:06:24] conversation. I do recommend that they
be awarded the contract. And with any
[1:06:29] other questions, I'd be happy to answer
them.
[1:06:31] » Yeah, I'll touch on the uh the Kelfield
top lot storm drain project. The Zenesk
[1:06:38] ticket I sent was 3033.
Uh what that did was, as you said, you
[1:06:45] had some challenges with the top lot.
You built it up over 2 foot. We are
[1:06:51] within a waiver that allowed that to go.
you pulled that permit from getting done
[1:06:57] so that the you could attach the fitness
pad to that waiver.
[1:07:02] » I'm not familiar with your term waiver,
but go ahead.
[1:07:04] » You so
will your word. So you said you
[1:07:09] impervious area expand
for the permitting of it when we
[1:07:14] discussed it.
>> Not familiar with your word waiver.
[1:07:17] » Okay. What what word is it that you were
using? So we had a permit a grading
[1:07:22] permit with Calbert County to install
the top lot and the storm drain project.
[1:07:26] We the typical process is to close that
permit out you submit as bills which we
[1:07:31] did. They review the storm water side of
the as bills and we submit our final as
[1:07:35] bills which we did. When the fitness pad
came up we asked them to not release the
[1:07:41] permit at this time because we will
likely revise it to include the fitness
[1:07:45] pad.
So when I say waiver, what I'm referring
[1:07:50] to is the allowed
area up to x amount of square feet,
[1:07:56] right? I believe it's 5,000 square ft.
>> No.
[1:07:59] » Okay. [snorts] Um
>> wait minute, let me explain. That's not
[1:08:02] correct. Up to 5,000 ft² does not
require a grading permit. This project
[1:08:06] has a grading permit. Over grading
permit, you can disturb as much as you
[1:08:09] want. It has limitations up to 20 acres
where you have different um sequences
[1:08:14] for construction. But what we're talking
about here is a grading permit, not
[1:08:18] something under 5,000 ft.
>> Okay. So, we talked about raising the
[1:08:23] two two foot for the top lot. So, one
thing we don't realize when we're at a
[1:08:27] town council meeting is after it rains
and where water stands. I wrote around I
[1:08:34] submitted that ticket that had the
pictures. The pictures the drain's not
[1:08:38] working. So the top lot and the the
[clears throat] water, it's standing and
[1:08:43] people would have to walk through it or
walk over where the building's on fire
[1:08:49] next to that to get by without walking
through the water. Um, let me let me
[1:08:54] respond. I've not seen the ticket. I
would love to see it and have a
[1:08:57] conversation with you offline about
that. There are areas where the building
[1:09:00] caught on fire where those parking lots
that are private parking lots have sunk
[1:09:04] and there is standing water in the
parking lots. has nothing to do with
[1:09:07] with the kum top lot.
>> The pictures I have are pretty good. You
[1:09:12] can see there's uh soil in it. And then
I also show the other side of Kellums
[1:09:17] where there's standing water after the
rain has stopped so that you can see
[1:09:21] after a rain event, not even a big rain
event, where the water's standing. So
[1:09:26] then we could say, "Wow, are we going to
push that flooding to people down the
[1:09:30] road?" So again, I'd love to see the
pictures and have a conversation
[1:09:33] offline, but those devices are designed
to hold water up to 4 48 hours. They're
[1:09:37] required to filter the water before it's
released, but happy to have the
[1:09:40] conversation. I don't have the
information for
[1:09:41] » No, no problem. It's ticket 3033.
>> I'll be sure to get a copy of it.
[1:09:47] [clears throat]
>> The um the water park, we're doing 13
[1:09:52] test piles. Is that right?
>> We're doing three test piles.
[1:09:56] » We're doing 13 restrikes.
>> Three test piles. 13. We're restructing
[1:09:59] the old piles to confirm their capacity
and we're doing three new test piles.
[1:10:04] » Okay. And can you just let the public
know like what are the three new test
[1:10:08] piles? What's the purpose of those?
>> So when you have a pile of foundation,
[1:10:11] you need to figure out how long and how
big your piles need to be to support
[1:10:14] your weight you're looking for. So only
way to really do that, you have geotech
[1:10:18] reports which kind of project it, but to
confirm it, we actually go drive three
[1:10:23] three piles before we drive the rest of
the piles. We do that in three different
[1:10:26] areas of the park because the soils may
be different in different areas of the
[1:10:28] park and that gives us our our pile
capacities which tells us how long our
[1:10:32] piles need to be and how big our piles
need to be before we order them. That's
[1:10:35] what we're doing.
>> And correct me if I'm wrong, but um I
[1:10:39] believe that the where the water amenity
was is where the piles were in the
[1:10:44] existing, but we're going to expand
that. Is that not correct, Jay?
[1:10:48] » Sure. And just from dealing with members
of the pug and being over there every
[1:10:51] day with other stuff just to you know
layman's terms everyone thinks you drive
[1:10:56] a pile down and you hit a substrate clay
or something and that's bottom of that
[1:11:01] stilt if you will now it's holding but
there's also these piles are so long
[1:11:04] there's what's called the friction load
on the outside of the pile whether you
[1:11:08] hit a hard bottom or not. So in the
restrike, those been there so long, they
[1:11:12] want to understand if we change, if we
add weight and you change that friction
[1:11:15] load, does it increase? Does it not? In
the new piles, the test, hey, we're
[1:11:19] going to beat it and they have a
dimension. When it stops moving so much
[1:11:23] for each hit, they know they've reach
that friction, then they come back and
[1:11:27] hit it another time. I just talked to
too many people about it lately, and
[1:11:31] there's different technologies, but it's
not a it's a matter of, okay, how wide
[1:11:35] do they need to be? How many do we have
to add? Are we going per plant? I think
[1:11:38] everything I've seen so far is in good
shape, but the proof's in the pudding
[1:11:42] and and the equipment showed up today,
so the thing will be there to do it. Um,
[1:11:49] I've just had that conversation with a
lot of public and maybe it'll save me a
[1:11:52] few more conversations saying it here,
but thanks. [laughter]
[1:11:55] » How long does that process do you you
said the equipment's here and then how
[1:12:00] long do you expect that process to take?
>> I don't I don't want to speak for Wayne.
[1:12:04] the the uh restrikes they they actually
if you look at the construction site the
[1:12:08] demo contractor left the bottom of the
river so he can travel this crane along
[1:12:14] with a good surface not damage the grade
beams he thinks he can do the seven or
[1:12:19] the 13 rest strikes in two days driving
the new three piles in one day um and it
[1:12:25] takes about a week to get that back
we'll have the information but once they
[1:12:29] mobilize the intent is to then fill in
the gaps uh once they learn that study
[1:12:35] Gotcha. And so, um, if I remember, it's
a long process, but, um, once we take
[1:12:42] the top off, we have to hurry up and get
the bottom. We have, we need to get back
[1:12:46] on very quickly. Um, I imagine that's
planned as the owner's representative.
[1:12:54] Does he have like a date by or how's
that being?
[1:12:59] » I got this. So, we we received a draft
schedule today from Shyel now that we
[1:13:04] know that the pile driver is on site. I
haven't looked at it yet. Um, but I know
[1:13:08] what you're talking about. The concern
is if we leave that place open, a bunch
[1:13:10] of water gets there and damages the
bottom. The way they're demoing that,
[1:13:14] they've actually crushed a lot of lot of
the concrete and they've made their own
[1:13:17] pad. So, that's good. Uh, we're
preventing water from getting getting in
[1:13:21] there. Uh, once these restrikes are done
and we can order the piles, they're
[1:13:24] ready to go. Um so they will be in there
put putting um piles in and additional
[1:13:29] screw piles in and finishing that floor
as fast they can.
[1:13:33] My last question, the budget discussions
is just so that you have the books in
[1:13:38] front of you to watch or is there
>> that's one re that's one reason.
[1:13:43] » My understanding was we approved a a
price.
[1:13:46] » You did you you approved a budget and
that as you go as you can imagine as you
[1:13:51] go through design things change, numbers
change and if you'll remember there was
[1:13:55] a contingency in there and we were able
to share some that's what we're working
[1:13:58] on. So now that we have the final
design, we have final numbers. We're
[1:14:01] [snorts] just adjusting those to make
sure as we go forward, we we can track
[1:14:04] those numbers.
>> Okay. There's no big budgetary concern
[1:14:09] to.
>> No. And there's been some value
[1:14:11] engineering things. As you get the
designs and the engineers suggest
[1:14:14] things, the electrician says, "Hey, why
why don't we do it this way? It'll save
[1:14:17] you some money." Or the mason says, "Why
don't we do it this way? It'll save you
[1:14:20] some money." When you see my report,
we're talking about value engineering
[1:14:23] meeting. That's what we're doing. We're
trying to whittle that that price down
[1:14:26] to get it as low as we can to start and
then watch it as we go forward.
[1:14:32] » Thank you for answering both of you for
answering those questions.
[1:14:36] » Wayne, I I forwarded you an email just
now with the rest of the council um that
[1:14:42] supports what conversation I was saying.
Uh especially with says D Street Widen.
[1:14:47] Uh that's not when I'm talking to the
the administrator like the the people
[1:14:53] who kind of work on that plan that I'm
hearing that's not there's a whole
[1:14:58] process that's supposed to take place
and I don't think we have that
[1:15:02] administrative process in town for this
D street widening project I see on your
[1:15:06] report. So since it's in my report and
you commented on it, um the DC street
[1:15:12] widening was part of the pavement
widening program in anticipation of
[1:15:16] getting pro approval of that from the
Ches Bay critical area commission. We
[1:15:19] have submitted the Ches Bay critical
area commission. The requirement when
[1:15:22] you add paving in the critical area is
to is to provide storm water management.
[1:15:26] And Dan, I want to clarify there's a
difference between storm water
[1:15:28] management and storm drainage. I think
you're confusing the two, but I'm not
[1:15:31] going to go into that. have have it
contract contact uh connection
[1:15:36] in a area where you have IDA
which is what you are intense
[1:15:39] development area the entire town is
intense development area you have to
[1:15:41] prove provide and prove that when you
add impervious area you reduce the
[1:15:45] pollutant load to the bay by more than
10%. And that's that's a computation
[1:15:49] that we do. We've done that and we
provide storm water management devices
[1:15:53] to pro provide that that pollutant
reduction. In this case, our design was
[1:15:57] to add plants along the edge of edge of
the road that's been completed. I think
[1:16:00] it's been submitted to critical
commission so that once we get that
[1:16:03] approval, we can do that widening. But
we'll have that conversation offline.
[1:16:07] » Yeah, I submitted the uh a lot of that
stuff. Everybody said they're looped in
[1:16:12] on that.
[1:16:16] » All right.
Let's move on to
[1:16:21] uh the Twin Verses patrol uh sheriff's
uh
[1:16:27] » Sergeant Nordon. Welcome.
>> Good evening everyone.
[1:16:34] » Received a copy of the
>> Yep. Okay. The month of July, the
[1:16:40] sheriff's office responded to 189 calls
for service. uh the slightly up from the
[1:16:46] 172 that we responded to in June. Out of
that, we had 645 self-initiated
[1:16:53] activities such as patrol checks,
traffic enforcement, traffic stops, and
[1:16:56] follow-ups.
Of the 189 calls for service, some of
[1:17:01] note, we had several thefts. The one I'd
like to speak on was from July 24th. Uh,
[1:17:07] a couple of my deputies responded to
Richfield Station for active subjects
[1:17:11] breaking into vehicles and all subjects
were caught. Um, I don't have the
[1:17:16] figures in front of me on how many
vehicles exactly they broke into, but
[1:17:20] they identified numerous victims and
they were all charged accordingly. So, I
[1:17:24] would like to commend the deputies for
that one. Um, had several DUIs due to
[1:17:29] heavy traffic enforcement, few assaults.
Uh
[1:17:34] there was a burglary on there,
fourthderee burglary. I figured people
[1:17:38] would have a question about that when
they see that word and everybody gets a
[1:17:42] little uneasy. Um this was a subject we
arrested him a couple times over in
[1:17:46] North Beach and he made his way down
here from PG County. We're not sure how
[1:17:52] uh we were able to get in contact with
his sister in PG County. He has a
[1:17:56] multitude of mental health issues. um
and we were able to get them linked back
[1:18:02] together and get him into a facility. Um
but he did receive several charges over
[1:18:08] here on our on Chesapeake Beach side and
North Beach side during his one or two
[1:18:12] week uh visit here with us. So, but just
to let everyone know that was an
[1:18:16] isolated incident uh subject, you know,
not walking down the street actively
[1:18:23] breaking into houses. This was just a
mental ill subject who entered someone's
[1:18:26] home. So, any questions, concerns?
[1:18:32] » You guys do a great job. And um I had
something stolen and not only did you
[1:18:38] catch the person, this is a couple years
back, um
[1:18:42] everything somehow got returned to me.
It was strewn all about my neighborhood
[1:18:46] and uh all day long people brought
little pieces of my wallet back to me.
[1:18:51] So, um
>> um we don't have much crime here and I'm
[1:18:54] very thankful for that. try to keep it
that way. U I do actually have an open
[1:18:59] case right now that's a theft and the
gentleman keeps contacting our property
[1:19:03] manager to get his stuff back. And I
said hasn't gone to court yet. That's
[1:19:06] evidence right now. We kind of need
that, you know, to prove our point in
[1:19:09] court. So we always ask citizens to just
be patient with us. It's the judicial
[1:19:14] process, you know, when we're handling
stuff like that. Court takes a while and
[1:19:17] soon as we're done, you'll be able to
have it back.
[1:19:20] So,
>> I know this is uh North Beach, but I do
[1:19:22] want to say the first Fridays, I think,
is going really well with the new uh
[1:19:26] layout, and I've seen a lot of positive
uh feedback.
[1:19:29] » We don't want to jinx that. No,
>> no, it's um the last two have gone
[1:19:34] smoothly, so we've increased deputies
there. Uh
[1:19:37] » feedback from the citizens is very
positive. So, um I've heard good things
[1:19:41] about summer nights, too. Uh citizens
are enjoying that. And we did have uh
[1:19:45] good feedback for uh July 3rd. It feels
like it was months ago, but last month,
[1:19:51] well, it was fireworks, but that was a
successful evening as well. We didn't
[1:19:55] have any uh major incidents during that
uh thankfully. Yep. We can talk about it
[1:20:00] now. It's past. [laughter]
But so
[1:20:05] assist motor motorist that was a little
higher. Um is that normally higher in
[1:20:10] the summer or was it?
>> Uh depends. I mean that can be a number
[1:20:14] of things. uh the assist motor. Sorry,
I'm just trying to pull up that
[1:20:18] spreadsheet.
>> Uh 10 for the month, 58 for the year.
[1:20:22] » Yeah. So, I mean, that's that can be
anything. You know, we see a car with
[1:20:26] its flashers on on the side of the road.
I I get it all the time up here at the
[1:20:30] top of 260. They'll turn from the light
here,
[1:20:33] » their phone will ring, they'll pull over
and they put their flashers on. Well, I
[1:20:36] come up the road a few cars behind them.
I pull in to check on them, make sure
[1:20:41] they're okay, see if they need
assistance or anything. I have to label
[1:20:44] it as an assist mode. It's just uh how
we categorize certain calls. Um so that
[1:20:49] would just it's just letting our
dispatch know, hey, I'm out with a
[1:20:52] vehicle. They might be broken down. So
they're prepared for me to ask for a tow
[1:20:55] truck or certain things like that.
>> So no tire change service. Like I had a
[1:21:01] flat tire, haven't had one. I was like,
"Ah, could have had."
[1:21:06] » I've changed a few tires this summer. I
will say I don't publicly announce
[1:21:10] I've changed a few tires folks this
time. Well,
[1:21:13] » I see I see that's always a highlight.
You know what I mean? So, thank you.
[1:21:17] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Okay.
[1:21:20] » It's always good to see you here.
>> Yep. Thank you, sir.
[1:21:22] » Thank you.
>> All right. North Beach Volunteer Fire
[1:21:25] Department. Anything going on at the
fire department? A
[1:21:29] » little bit. [laughter]
>> It's good to see you, sir.
[1:21:32] » Good to see you. Greetings from uh
President G and Chief Stanton. And I
[1:21:36] guess everybody got their statistical
report emailed to them.
[1:21:39] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Have uh you know, knock on wood as
[1:21:43] far as emergencies go. We're slow right
now. We're
[1:21:46] » That's a good thing cuz you're busy
otherwise.
[1:21:49] » It is. It is very very much so. But uh
yeah, we haven't had any earthshattering
[1:21:54] things go on or it's been relatively
quiet out there. Just wrapping up the uh
[1:22:00] month with the 100th anniversary
>> stuff.
[1:22:04] Yeah, that's great. Uh when we get to
the mayor's report, I've got a few
[1:22:08] things to say about the 100th
anniversary and the parade and and the
[1:22:13] uh the carnival. So, uh
>> uh stick around for that.
[1:22:17] » I'll be here.
>> I'm not too far not too much further
[1:22:20] down the uh down the road.
>> Any questions from anyone or
[1:22:26] » No, I bought your book, but I have not
read it yet. So, I I don't want to talk
[1:22:30] about it because I'll look really dumb.
Are we talking Are we talking about this
[1:22:33] book?
>> Yes, we're talking about that book. I do
[1:22:35] have it.
>> Amazing piece of history.
[1:22:38] » This is This was recently published
about the first hundred years of the
[1:22:43] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department,
which is the oldest department in the
[1:22:46] county
>> and company number one. And uh and
[1:22:51] despite the fact that they're the North
Beach Volunteer Fire Department, they've
[1:22:54] been located in Ches Peak Beach ever
since I've moved here in 1985.
[1:22:59] Uh but uh we don't uh hold that against
them for not changing the name.
[1:23:03] [laughter]
>> Thank you for being here. It's always
[1:23:05] good to have you here.
>> All righty. Have a good evening.
[1:23:09] » All right.
>> All right.
[1:23:16] Here's reporting
games. Um
[1:23:25] sorry. Yeah. And so what you have on the
screen there is uh some photographs that
[1:23:32] I took uh with my phone. And guess what?
I was up in the air. Can you tell that I
[1:23:38] was on the ferris wheel when I took
these with Becky? And uh that was uh a
[1:23:44] lot of fun. Uh, and you'll notice on the
left-hand picture that the ladder trucks
[1:23:49] on the back side of the firehouse and
it's all the way up in the air and
[1:23:53] there's uh, I think two members of the
fire company uh, in the bucket up there
[1:23:58] and they were shooting pictures from the
back side of the firehouse.
[1:24:02] » And so, okay, go to the next one. Now,
this is a trip. I took a trip to South
[1:24:08] Carolina to visit my daughter and her
family. Becky and I did. And on the way
[1:24:14] home, we were coming up Route 85. We
were in western South Carolina. We were
[1:24:19] coming up Route 85 and I hit Route 29
um in North Carolina uh that runs in
[1:24:26] through Virginia and turns into Lee
Highway in Fairfax County. And I was
[1:24:32] just talking to Becky and I said, "Well,
you know, I went to I finished, uh, my
[1:24:38] last year of high school at a military
academy that's very near where we are
[1:24:42] right now." And so, um, she says, "Well,
why don't we go up there?" So, we did.
[1:24:49] And, uh, it's in Chadam, Virginia. It's
called Hargrave Military Academy. it's
[1:24:55] uh operate it it's related to the
southern it's southern baptist ministry
[1:25:01] and um I I went there voluntarily
uh in my senior year of high school uh
[1:25:08] because I had I needed a class in summer
school and I went there at the
[1:25:13] recommendation somebody to do this
summer school. I was in Fairfax County
[1:25:17] at the time and when I got there, I
really liked it. So, I decided to ask my
[1:25:24] mom and dad if I could do my senior year
of high school there, which I did do.
[1:25:28] Um, and I'll be honest with you, that um
uh changed a lot of things for me um
[1:25:36] because it's very strict military
school, very disciplined, male only. Um,
[1:25:43] and uh, I I did very well there uh, in
all in all of my classes and I was kind
[1:25:49] of didn't pay that much attention in
public high school in Fairfax County. So
[1:25:54] anyway, we stopped there and we got a
great tour. The picture on the left and
[1:25:59] the right is the same image. It's in the
new chapel that recently was built and
[1:26:05] so we got to see that. Hit the next one,
Wendy.
[1:26:09] Oh, and that was it for that. But at any
rate, uh it was good to it was good to
[1:26:14] stop by there and to rebuild that
relationship and um uh I I really
[1:26:21] enjoyed that. Now, Anthony, do you want
to say anything about this?
[1:26:26] » Um yes. Well, that was during the Twin
Beaches Community Health Coalition uh
[1:26:32] Red, White, and Warrior Challenge, which
was a part of Uplift uh Calbertt um
[1:26:39] festival. And that is a part of the 140T
obstacle course that I really tried to
[1:26:47] get Bruce to run,
but he kept telling me he was too tired
[1:26:51] to do it.
>> Um but, uh we had people that come out
[1:26:55] to compete. We had a a nice group of
teams and we were able to raise over
[1:26:59] $1,400 for the uh for the American
Legion Post up the street. So, we did
[1:27:07] pretty good.
[1:27:10] » But next time we're definitely going to
get Bruce to do it. He was a little shy
[1:27:14] because he he really wanted to I had
shorts for him and everything.
[1:27:18] » I heard uh Chris did it right.
[laughter]
[1:27:21] » He did do it. He did indeed. He did a
good job. Anybody who did it did a good
[1:27:25] job. Period.
>> I was there. I was there.
[1:27:28] » You was there.
>> Yeah. And I uh I I thought that that was
[1:27:31] a great event and I think a lot of
people had a lot of fun. And Chris, did
[1:27:35] you want to say anything?
[1:27:39] » You don't want to add anything further
to that?
[1:27:42] [laughter]
>> Chris?
[1:27:48] » Yeah.
>> And she did a really good job.
[1:27:52] But that was that was a lot of fun. and
I commend you for putting this together.
[1:27:55] I I really think that this is the type
of thing that the citizens of the town
[1:28:00] and the area can really embrace and
enjoy. So, thank you for
[1:28:06] » thankful for the people who came out
here.
[1:28:10] » And again, we we mentioned um we talked
a little bit about Fishing Creek
[1:28:14] already, so I don't think I need to say
anything more about that. Um and then
[1:28:20] the we talked a little bit about the the
um
[1:28:24] the water park already. Uh the 100th
anniversary this book was published um
[1:28:31] by the
it was uh John Tippet wrote this book
[1:28:36] about the fire department and do you
want to come back forward and comment on
[1:28:40] this? This thing is is absolutely
spectacular and detailed. Uh and they're
[1:28:46] available. They are available for uh
purchase at $60 a piece. The uh Chief
[1:28:53] Tippet just put in a ton of time and it
seems like every, you know, he would go
[1:28:59] home pretty much every night and write
this book. I mean, he wrote this thing
[1:29:03] by himself and he went through old file
cabinets and old [clears throat] drawers
[1:29:12] and everything. and it seemed like every
time he'd get something done, he'd find
[1:29:17] something brand new.
>> Um, and it's amazing he he would point
[1:29:21] out that uh 60 70 years ago at their
business meetings, they were discussing
[1:29:29] the same things that we discuss now,
complaining about the cleanliness and
[1:29:33] people aren't picking up after
themselves and this and that. And it's
[1:29:37] just, it's amazing how history just
keeps repeating itself. And uh I' I
[1:29:43] bought one of the books, but I have not
had a I've looked at it, glance through
[1:29:48] it, but I haven't had time to sit down
and really go through it, but
[1:29:51] » Well, you all been a little busy at the
fire department.
[1:29:53] » Yeah. Uh it's uh it's quite the
accomplishment what he's was able to put
[1:29:58] down in that book.
>> Like I say, they are for purchase if uh
[1:30:01] I think uh the base height history
museum has some or you can come by the
[1:30:06] firehouse and and get them. uh Chief
Tippet put this whole effort out from
[1:30:12] his pocket. So he fronted the book and
he paid for it and everything. So if you
[1:30:17] go and buy it and they say uh you know
make to check out the John Tippet, it's
[1:30:22] not he's not committing any fraud or
anything. He's uh he's not making a
[1:30:26] profit off of it either. If there is any
money that uh comes out, it's going to
[1:30:31] go back to the firehouse. He wanted to
do a hard coverver book, which would
[1:30:34] have been outstanding, but it would have
been, I think the publisher said, $300
[1:30:38] to $350 a piece.
>> So, unfortunately, we we couldn't pull
[1:30:44] that off.
>> Right. Well, thank you. And there is a
[1:30:47] copy of uh of this in the back. If any
of you here that are visiting tonight
[1:30:53] want to take a look at it, just look at
it on your way out. So,
[1:30:57] » yeah. In other words, see them before
you buy them. But uh but I I I would
[1:31:03] encourage you to to support the fire
department. I mean, it's uh instrumental
[1:31:07] here in the town. And I and and then of
course I have a special uh u uh
[1:31:13] connection to the fire department cuz I
did have a house fired that took me out
[1:31:16] of my put me out of my home for a year.
Um and I was talking to the previous
[1:31:22] chief. I'm trying to think of his name.
>> Chris Mills. Chief Mills.
[1:31:25] » Yeah. He he um he told me at the event
uh at uh that if if we had been
[1:31:35] if the call had gone in just another
minute or two later, my house would have
[1:31:39] burned right down to the ground. And you
don't realize how valuable the fire
[1:31:44] department is until you have a fire.
Unbelievable. I mean, because um that we
[1:31:51] were out of our house for an entire year
to rebuild it. Um, and my house is a
[1:31:57] duplex, so it's attached to another
home, and the home that was attached to
[1:32:00] it wasn't damaged at all.
The people that, and they're volunteers,
[1:32:05] they're all volunteers. So, you I can't
say enough about how lucky we are to
[1:32:12] have the North Beach Volunteer Fire
Department, the first one in Cal County
[1:32:16] located in Chesapeake Beach here. And
these people are willing to serve. And
[1:32:22] another thing that's uh interesting
about that is uh my great nephew is a
[1:32:27] professional firefighter for Prince
George's County and he lives outside of
[1:32:32] the town limits but with a Chesapeake
Beach address but he is a member of the
[1:32:36] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department as
well.
[1:32:38] » He just recently had a baby and uh just
>> he's been a little preoccupied
[1:32:44] preoccupied with
>> we're seeing him we're seeing him more
[1:32:46] and more every day which is a great he's
he's great.
[1:32:49] » Yeah. Yeah. So again, a round of
applause for North Beach Volunteer
[1:32:53] Firefighters.
>> Thank you.
[1:32:55] » Another interesting thing in the book is
there's it's not only there's a lot of
[1:32:59] pictures of the town from way back in
the day. So if you just like history and
[1:33:04] nostalgia to see what this place used to
be, there's there's a lot of pictures in
[1:33:08] there of that also.
>> Yeah,
[1:33:10] » that's great.
>> And uh I just want to comment, the
[1:33:13] carnival is really well organized. I'm
seeing a lot of positive feedback on
[1:33:17] that. I took my kids uh last night. We
had a good time and I understand that
[1:33:21] the fire department gets a portion of
that back. So,
[1:33:23] » yes. Yeah, it's uh well, we're hoping
that it comes somewhat close to being
[1:33:29] able to offset the money we've spent on
this 100th anniversary.
[1:33:32] » Oh, okay.
>> Cuz we've uh we've had to spend quite a
[1:33:35] bit, too.
>> We had a gala over here at the rod and
[1:33:38] reel that
>> wasn't cheap, but it was you know, you
[1:33:41] only
>> we're only going to see a hunter once.
[1:33:44] » Yep.
>> So, we we decided we might as well
[1:33:47] » do it up. But they uh shout out to Will
Callas, one of our members. He uh he has
[1:33:54] been working on this thing for a year
and uh I've been working with him on a
[1:33:59] lot of the stuff and just the amount of
time and effort that he's put into it
[1:34:03] has been incredible. And so far I've
heard I honestly haven't been down there
[1:34:09] yet. Uh I have had everything this week.
I've had to take care of different
[1:34:15] things. just had to go to a seminar last
night, wife's birthday tomorrow night.
[1:34:19] Uh, Orioles game Saturday. I don't know
if that's going to happen or not, but
[1:34:23] uh, everything I've heard has been
really, really good feedback on it.
[1:34:28] » Take my word for it cuz I' I've been
there apparently more than you have.
[1:34:31] » Yeah,
>> I was amazed. I didn't I didn't think
[1:34:35] they'd be able to pull it off and get
all those rides and everything in the
[1:34:38] lot, but they did. And
>> uh, hopefully we we can make this a
[1:34:42] tradition and we'll keep it up. Maybe
not in August, maybe more in the fall or
[1:34:48] more in the spring, but uh we had to
plan it in August for the 100th. So, but
[1:34:52] we're going to go back and look at
everything and hopefully we can pull it
[1:34:56] off and keep it up as a neighborhood
kind of thing.
[1:34:58] » As I recall, it was done since I moved
here in 1985. That's been done before
[1:35:03] there.
>> It it has been done at the fire I never
[1:35:06] saw it at the firehouse. I've been here
for about 20 years and I remember
[1:35:11] » taking my daughter down to the
>> uh the gravel lot down there when they
[1:35:15] had the carnival down there,
>> but uh they did they did do it at the
[1:35:19] firehouse and they pulled it off again.
So,
[1:35:23] » that's great. Well, congratulations
and please extend the council and my
[1:35:28] congratulations back to the chief and
and everybody that's responsible.
[1:35:33] » We'll do. Thank you.
Um,
[1:35:38] one other note, uh, for the mayor's
report. Uh, well, we have some pictures
[1:35:43] that I shot today. Um, no, that's not
today. Um, because it's down further
[1:35:49] than that, but that's some pictures I
shot um of of the construction or or
[1:35:54] demolition that's going on at the at the
water park. And the uh the only place
[1:35:59] that that uh you can take pictures is
through the uh the fence right on the
[1:36:05] street because the rest of it's got a
shield around it. Uh yeah, and that one
[1:36:10] looks like it was today because the top
of that was down. But um I I uh I shot a
[1:36:16] lot of stuff, but these were the ones
that we picked to show you tonight. Uh
[1:36:21] okay.
>> Oh, that No, that was a video.
[1:36:26] Oh, didn't play it up there. All right.
Well, then the only other thing I um I
[1:36:31] have to mention is a couple of
birthdays. Um
[1:36:35] uh this coming Saturday,
um you've heard of Roland's grocery
[1:36:40] store. Roland himself, Roland Peller,
will turn 88 years old on Saturday.
[1:36:48] and he um you can always find him at the
American Legion if if the black Cadillac
[1:36:55] uh SUV is up there. Roland is there. Uh
and he he's he's there a lot. Um and I
[1:37:02] there's a little story about Roland that
I'll share with you. I uh it is working.
[1:37:08] Oh, you got it to work. You're good. Um
but just let it roll. Um Roland uh when
[1:37:14] I was um
after my one year of college, I went to
[1:37:21] uh drive a truck for my dad for
delivering newspapers in Washington DC
[1:37:26] and in Rockville, Maryland uh two
different times. And the Washington DC
[1:37:31] route that I had was southeast
Washington on the uh inside away from
[1:37:37] the Anacostia River up toward the
Capitol and so forth. And on I think it
[1:37:42] was either fourth or seventh street and
uh Pennsylvania Avenue Southeast there
[1:37:47] was a delicateess in there that was one
of my stops where I put newspapers.
[1:37:52] Okay. And it was called Roland's and yes
it was Roland Pelleter.
[1:37:57] and so um and his family and uh so I I
didn't get to know him then but when I
[1:38:06] moved here and then the store was built
um I uh I approached him and and I was
[1:38:15] actually there for the ground break
breaking. There's a picture uh of of us
[1:38:19] at the groundbreaking.
Um and um and also uh there's a shovel
[1:38:26] that's if you go into Roland's and you
turn in toward the uh vegetable side,
[1:38:32] you know, and you look up on the wall,
there's a a box, a glass box that has a
[1:38:36] shovel in it, and there's a $100 bill up
there. And that $100 bill has my
[1:38:42] signature on it cuz I was the very first
customer at Rollins.
[1:38:46] » And so I just wanted to share that with
you. Uh, and the main reason that that
[1:38:50] came to mind is that Roland Pelleter's
birthday is Saturday and he'll be 88
[1:38:54] years old. And so if you ever go to the
American Legion, he's there most of the
[1:38:59] time. If you see the black Cadillac in
front, he's there. And uh, if you do
[1:39:03] happen to see him um, anytime in the re
near future, wish him a happy 88th
[1:39:08] birthday.
And I'll also mention that uh, yesterday
[1:39:13] um, my I have one brother uh, his name
is Barry. He lives in Northern Virginia
[1:39:19] in uh near Manasses and uh yesterday was
his 80th birthday. So I'm just proud of
[1:39:26] my brother having his 80th birthday.
Thank you for indulging me and and and
[1:39:36] Commissioner Graasso, I'm happy that
you're here. Is there anything you want
[1:39:39] to say to the public?
No. No politicking.
[1:39:44] » No politicking.
Welcome. We're so glad you're here with
[1:39:48] your husband.
>> Well, I'm glad to be here. Um, just
[1:39:51] wanted to mention that National Night
Out, I was here and I had a citation for
[1:39:57] all of you and um, as you
>> that it's in my office.
[1:40:01] » Okay. And as usual, you all do such a
great job. It's always very well
[1:40:07] attended, the vendors, everything that's
here, the fire department, the police
[1:40:12] department. It's just great. And I just
wanted to announce if you did not see
[1:40:16] our meeting on Tuesday, we did vote to
put a moratorum on data centers. Uh it's
[1:40:24] a six-month moratorum. It's not long
enough. It will be extended, but we were
[1:40:30] glad to get off the ground with some
safeguards in place and to get the
[1:40:34] six-month moratorum. the end of
September, we will be in motion to
[1:40:40] reverse the zoning from uh high high
industrial high industrial back to what
[1:40:48] it was, which it was 2F's farming and
something else. So I think those two
[1:40:54] together, but I think the zoning is the
most important aspect of the whole
[1:40:59] thing. Once we get that back, it is
really going to hamstring
[1:41:03] um anybody who wants to come in here and
uh I think the new board is going to be
[1:41:09] uh a lot more transparent and cognizant
of what the people want. The people did
[1:41:15] a beautiful job. Before I became a
county commissioner, I was them. I was
[1:41:21] behind that um microphone raising hell
about what I didn't like about what was
[1:41:26] going on and I was pretty consistent
with it. So even though as an elected
[1:41:31] official, you know, you want everything
to be wonderful and everybody to like
[1:41:35] you, it ain't going to happen. And if
you're if you don't have the strength to
[1:41:41] be a leader, this job isn't for you
because we work for the people and our
[1:41:46] people let us know. 70% I think is the
um amount of individuals in Calvert
[1:41:54] County that are not for data centers. I
read recently that um Governor Abbott,
[1:42:00] he's put a stop to them. Um he his
parameters are he doesn't want anything
[1:42:06] else in his state unless they bring
their own electricity and their own
[1:42:10] water source. And one thing that I
thought was very interesting, he does
[1:42:15] not want data centers in rural
locations. Hello, that's Calvert County.
[1:42:21] We are 100% rural. So, I hope
everybody's happy with that. But I'm so
[1:42:26] glad that we were finally able to get
that through. Um Dr. Janette Wasaki,
[1:42:31] she's on part of our environmental com
commission and um they gave us some
[1:42:37] really good advice that was not taken.
But now, uh, there are reversals and,
[1:42:44] um, I told her I'm going to need her
help with the whole board is because
[1:42:49] what we want to do, what we want to have
in place is, um, studies that are not
[1:42:55] off the shelf, but studies that are
unique to our small county, our county
[1:43:02] that uh, is a peninsula. So, our studies
will be done just for Calvert County.
[1:43:09] So, I think that's really good news.
Also want to say that um our uh
[1:43:15] sheriff's department, our sheriff's
deputies are second to none. They keep
[1:43:19] us safe. Um I I can't say enough good
things about them. And also, I've been
[1:43:25] very fortunate to participate in all the
100th anniversary uh activities with the
[1:43:31] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department.
It's a great group of men and women. I I
[1:43:36] have always since I become a
commissioner and got to know them
[1:43:40] better. I have always been a great
admirer of them. They have a cadet
[1:43:46] program. They have young people who are
there. I I I've seen the older people
[1:43:52] say, "Did you do this? Did you do that?"
And I think to myself, what a great
[1:43:56] discipline for them. What great examples
for them to work with the men and women
[1:44:01] North Beach Volunteer Fire Department.
and I can't say enough. Um, I think
[1:44:06] that's about all. Thank you all so much
for the job that you do. And, um, as I
[1:44:12] always say, I work for you. That's why I
make the big money. So, if you, uh, if
[1:44:19] you all ever have anything that you need
me to help you with, anything you're a
[1:44:24] little ticked off about, anything you're
happy about, don't hesitate to call me
[1:44:28] because I work for you. Thank you so
much.
[1:44:30] » Well, thank you for joining us tonight.
Great to see you. Great to see you both.
[1:44:36] » All right. Uh, we'll call that the end
of the mayor's report.
[1:44:41] Now, we're going to move on to
resolutions and ordinances. We have
[1:44:45] » Mayor, if I would ask, I would like to
ask a clarification question in regards
[1:44:49] to this before we get started on this.
um in direct relation to that May 21st
[1:44:55] uh 2026 meeting uh in the definition and
understanding of the quorum. A C306
[1:45:01] quorum. A majority of the members of the
council shall constitute a quorum for
[1:45:06] the transaction of business, but no
ordinance shall be approved nor any
[1:45:10] other action taken without the favorable
votes of a majority of the whole number
[1:45:16] of members elected to the council. I
thought in May we understood uh that to
[1:45:23] be four and now tonight we seem to have
a different understanding. I'd just like
[1:45:28] clarification before we start this next
um bit.
[1:45:40] » A majority of the whole members of
council is four.
[1:45:45] » So
>> correct. So for any business it takes
[1:45:49] four to pass. Correct.
>> A majority of the council is four
[1:45:59] » elected to the council. So the
>> the majority is four. Correct. So So it
[1:46:05] takes four votes to pass.
[1:46:10] » Are you speaking definitively for
ordinances or are you talking about
[1:46:12] agenda?
>> I'm I'm speaking for clarification. So
[1:46:16] we make sure we're cuz on May 21st
>> Mhm.
[1:46:21] » there was uh
there was I think John was on vacation
[1:46:28] and there was a a lot of ripples about
that. So if we're saying that for
[1:46:32] business so it says ordinance or
business right so business I was told
[1:46:38] that nope three is the vote. So I'd like
to have what that understanding is
[1:46:44] before we move forward with this. Okay.
So, council, I think the question is, is
[1:46:48] there a difference between voting for um
agenda items so on and so forth and
[1:46:54] versus ordinances on what the actual
count vote count should be with foreign
[1:46:57] attendance?
[1:47:02] » You can't transact business without a
majority of members of the council.
[1:47:08] An ordinance cannot be approved, nor any
other action taken. I read that to be
[1:47:14] with respect to an ordinance without the
favorable votes of a majority of the
[1:47:18] whole number of members elected to the
council.
[1:47:20] » Thank you council.
>> So that means that you have
[1:47:24] » so I have four votes to approve.
[1:47:29] » Okay, that answer your question.
>> Did we have four votes for the agenda?
[1:47:34] So that's business, right? ordinance
business
[1:47:38] » with respect to the ordinance otherwise
the first section part of section C
[1:47:43] C-306 wouldn't would be meaningless so
you don't it is a principle of statutory
[1:47:50] interpretation that you don't read um a
legislative provision to make any part
[1:47:56] of it um superfluous or without meaning.
So a majority of members of council
[1:48:02] shall constitute a quorum for the
transaction of business. We're talking
[1:48:05] about general the general business of
the council. A majority of members of
[1:48:09] the council shall shall constitute a
quorum. No ordinance shall be approved
[1:48:14] or other action taken without a
favorable votes of the majority of the
[1:48:17] whole number of members elected.
That answer your question?
[1:48:22] » And I believe that that interpretation
is consistent with the way council has
[1:48:26] operated for the last
>> well since I started since before I
[1:48:30] started
>> in 2010.
[1:48:34] » That answer your question?
>> Yeah, that just uh seemed to be
[1:48:39] contradicting
till earlier. Yeah, I think was not an
[1:48:44] ordinance and that's what business and
ordinance is
[1:48:48] » different words. One starts with a B,
the other one
[1:48:52] » business 100%.
>> But you got to remember, you got to
[1:48:55] understand that the council let us know
that when it comes to a ordinance,
[1:48:58] that's what you're talking about.
Anything else is for us to keep the
[1:49:01] meeting moving forward. So, I understand
what you're asking and what you want to
[1:49:05] make sure we got correct, but our
council just said we got it correct.
[1:49:08] » Okay. Transaction of business. So,
that's the word with that starts with a
[1:49:12] B right there.
>> Gotcha.
[1:49:16] All right. Again,
the business at hand
[1:49:20] » uh is to vote on ordinance 026-14,
an ordinance of the town council,
[1:49:26] Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, amending the
town code, chapter 290 zoning, article
[1:49:30] 3, zoning district section 290-10,
land use table to prohibit data centers
[1:49:37] in all zones. And that's really uh in
the code itself. That's a it's a minor
[1:49:43] change. Uh but it uh gets to what you
were talking about, Commissioner
[1:49:48] Graasso, and so forth. So, I'll call for
the vote.
[1:49:53] » I'm sorry.
>> A motion to approve or we we can go on.
[1:49:56] » Are we approving the vote?
>> Let's go through the right transactions
[1:50:00] and then um
>> we have a motion to approve.
[1:50:14] Yes.
[1:50:17] » Okay. [clears throat]
>> Turn the microphone back on.
[1:50:20] » Just on page four.
[1:50:25] » Oh, of the ordinance itself.
>> Um, no. Um, my my comment is on the next
[1:50:31] one.
>> All right. So, we're ready to vote on
[1:50:35] this.
Yes.
[1:50:38] » Yes. To to prohibit data centers in all
zones. All in favor of
[1:50:43] » a motion to approve.
>> Need a second.
[1:50:46] » Motion in a second. Okay.
>> I'll second.
[1:50:49] » All right. We have a motion and a
second.
[1:50:50] » Here we go.
>> Motion.
[1:50:53] » Yeah.
>> Any further discussion?
[1:50:55] » Yes.
the discipline we need to I think keep
[1:51:01] on our ordinances where they're
introduced and that items written in and
[1:51:07] are are a little bit of housekeeping so
that the uniformity is there. Uh
[1:51:14] this wasn't and isn't all the case. So
if we look at the different ordinances
[1:51:19] some of them have the introduced pass
and effective date, some of them don't.
[1:51:22] [clears throat]
I think we should be uniformed when
[1:51:24] we're legislating.
[1:51:28] on this ordinance.
[1:51:32] Have we met the legal requirements to
enact this?
[1:51:40] » Yes.
[1:51:45] » Any other questions?
>> When was the introduced date?
[1:51:51] » It was introduced last month, right? It
was introduced at the last meeting.
[1:51:59] July 16th.
>> Mhm. All right.
[1:52:02] » If you look at the end part of the
ordinance where it says as certified, it
[1:52:07] recites the date on which it was
introduced.
[1:52:10] » Yeah. There's just a few of them that I
had objections to from May that didn't
[1:52:14] follow that discipline. So, that's what
just trying to make sure we're staying
[1:52:19] disciplined.
Maybe we could bring it up in close
[1:52:23] section session to discuss
>> what
[1:52:27] » the other ordinances we're talking
about.
[1:52:30] » We do have a motion. We do have a
second. All in favor of the motion
[1:52:34] signify by saying I
>> I
[1:52:38] » I.
>> All any opposed? No. The motion passes.
[1:52:42] The ordinance is as approved.
Thank you.
[1:52:48] All right. Now, we're going to introduce
ordinance
[1:52:52] 0-26-15,
an ordinance of the town council, Chesig
[1:52:56] Beach, Maryland, amending the town code,
chapter 290, zoning, article 3, zoning
[1:53:01] districts, section 290-11,
conditions and standards for conditional
[1:53:07] and special exception uses to implement
certain state requirements regarding
[1:53:13] accessory dwelling units. will set the
public hearing for
[1:53:18] um September 17th at 6:15 p.m.
>> Melissa, was this the ordinance?
[1:53:26] » Yes, I just um
there's a just a typo on page 4.
[1:53:34] So there's um and it has to it's because
I deleted a section that you all had
[1:53:39] asked me to delete at the work session
and I left an or there a stray or
[1:53:44] » the end of 3 a sub 2 on page four.
Oh yeah,
[1:53:53] » you would just cross through that.
>> Also the table on page two
[1:54:00] » for the.5 EDUs. I think that six that
5001 needs
[1:54:05] » supposed to be changed
>> 651, right?
[1:54:11] » I think that would be they can fix that
before the next meeting, right? or
[1:54:16] » if I we fix these things before you vote
on the introduction.
[1:54:24] » Oh, I see.
>> That's better.
[1:54:26] » I don't have we don't have to show it as
inter lineation. So, that's just why I
[1:54:29] brought it to attention.
Um if you having noted that if you would
[1:54:35] when you introduce it introduce it as
back to as we've just said
[1:54:44] those two respects that the or will be
removed and the 501 in the chart will be
[1:54:48] changed to 650.
>> I thought we had a consensus to uh
[1:54:52] remove
M letter M as in Michael 1 M. I thought
[1:54:59] we had a consensus on that at the work
session.
[1:55:11] I'm going to let Sarah address that.
However, I went back and listened to the
[1:55:18] audio from that hearing when I was doing
the amendments and I don't I don't
[1:55:23] recall that there was that consensus.
However, um if if that is the intention
[1:55:28] of council, we can make that
alteration as well. Sarah, did you have
[1:55:34] something you wanted to say?
>> I was just going to say that there is an
[1:55:39] extra period
in front of the five edus. I don't know
[1:55:44] if that matters or not. Um but since we
were fixing things um I do not recall
[1:55:52] whether there was consensus on this
piece or not. Um I do recall
[1:55:58] you saying that I had been um presuming
that the state put this in here for a
[1:56:04] good reason and have been spending lots
of time trying to think of what that
[1:56:09] good reason is, right? um and leaving it
in out of an abundance of caution, but I
[1:56:15] have not been able to in the last eight
8 months, nine months come up with why
[1:56:22] it's there. So, if you do vote to remove
one M about the alley access for
[1:56:32] converted accessory dwelling or
converted structures, I don't I have not
[1:56:37] been able to come up with any negative
impacts. So, it is up to you whether you
[1:56:42] leave it in or not. Yeah, maybe maybe if
we can have I thought we had a consensus
[1:56:48] that maybe take one less thing off the
uh the plate for next month.
[1:56:56] » So, we just corrected this ordinance and
explain how we should be introducing it
[1:57:02] either now or next time. introduced.
[1:57:07] » So, it needs to be introduced as a
corrected ordinance
[1:57:12] » because you haven't introduced it yet. I
mean, I don't physically have a new
[1:57:16] piece of paper to give you, but if you
all accept those corrections as um
[1:57:21] editing issues, then
acknowledge that what you're introducing
[1:57:27] is the corrected version. It's not an
amended version because you haven't
[1:57:31] introduced it yet. I'm just um if I had
a piece of paper to give you as a
[1:57:36] substitute, I would.
>> So,
[1:57:39] » if we are introducing this, we just
agree here that it is in the corrected
[1:57:44] form as you and Sarah described.
>> And then it will come out and be
[1:57:50] published by the town for the hearing
>> proper way. Yes.
[1:57:53] » Corrected.
>> Okay.
[1:57:56] » I would I would just say that the issue
of 1 M is different from correcting.
[1:58:01] Yes. So,
>> that is different.
[1:58:03] » I'm not removing that unless you all
decide that it goes.
[1:58:08] » I I'm fine for them to motion and vote
if there really was a consensus because
[1:58:14] » believe
[1:58:18] I believe there was a consensus on that.
>> So, probably save us some time next
[1:58:22] month.
[1:58:29] So clarifying what you're saying is not
to take M out at this point. You're
[1:58:34] saying when you all come to vote on M to
take it out at or for him to motion and
[1:58:38] then if he has the votes to remove it,
remove it at that time after it's been
[1:58:42] introduced.
>> Yep. Okay, that work.
[1:58:46] All right,
we can consider that introduced.
[1:58:51] » Mhm.
>> We do. No, we just set a public hearing
[1:58:56] and we'll set the public hearing at 6:15
at the next regularly scheduled town
[1:59:01] meeting,
September 17th. Okay,
[1:59:08] » chair. And I'm sending you the revision.
It will have today's date on it so you
[1:59:12] can distinguish it from that.
[1:59:16] » All right, moving along.
We want to introduce ordinance 0-26-16,
[1:59:23] an ordinance of the town council of
Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, a amending
[1:59:26] chapter 263, urban forest section 263-4,
prohibited acts and permits to limit
[1:59:34] restrictions on uh property owners in
managing trees on private properties
[1:59:38] where their actions do not significantly
impact the trees canopy. And we're going
[1:59:43] to set the public hearing to be just
immediately following uh the previous
[1:59:48] one we discussed on September 17th.
It'll follow after the hearings will
[1:59:53] start at 6:15 and go sequentially.
And then we're going to introduce
[1:59:58] ordinance 0-26-17,
an ordinance that the town council,
[2:00:03] Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, amending the
town code, chapter 290, zoning, article
[2:00:08] 3, zoning district section 290-11,
conditions and standards for conditional
[2:00:14] and special exception uses to permit the
sale of uh certain items incidental to a
[2:00:22] home occupation. We will set the uh
public hearing to follow the previous
[2:00:28] two public hearings on September 17th,
which all three commence at 6:15
[2:00:35] p.m.
All right, it is time to move forward to
[2:00:39] reports of boards, officers, boards, and
committees, planning and zoning.
[2:00:48] So, the planning and zoning commission
is continuing to work on the revised
[2:00:54] land use table and standards and
conditions. Um, they did take a moment
[2:01:00] to review the uh parking study and
waiver for the ADUs and give you a
[2:01:05] recommendation on that um on your ADU
ordinance as is required by law. Um they
[2:01:15] also have begun discussing the coastal
resiliency overlay. Um this is part of
[2:01:21] implementing the coastal resiliency
plan. Uh I want to say that was 2023,
[2:01:28] but I might be mixing it up with another
one. And so they they're going to do
[2:01:32] that through an overlay in the critical
area zone that will reduce lot coverage
[2:01:39] and allow some more flexibility with
height and base flood elevation for
[2:01:44] housing and maybe more flexibility for
flood proofing as well.
[2:01:52] One thing that I've noticed um
in like coastal towns is parking just
[2:02:00] has for your tires. So it's less
impervious space.
[2:02:06] So maybe a concrete strip and a concrete
strip versus paving the whole thing too,
[2:02:11] which um
any I mean we're having potentially
[2:02:20] certain areas would have more
development than other areas in town
[2:02:24] that
use. Um,
[2:02:32] so I like we're discussing some of that,
but maybe they also have like some
[2:02:37] pavers that I know we have like no grass
paver, right? But they have where you
[2:02:44] can drive across
um grass and they have like um
[2:02:51] I don't know yard pavers or something
like that that can handle a truck or
[2:02:56] something like that and they're I think
they're somewhat
[2:03:02] impervious but they have less of a
rating to them. Are you familiar with
[2:03:06] what I'm
>> not grass pavers but permeable pavers?
[2:03:11] Yes, I'm familiar with that. Um,
>> and something like the two strips, uh,
[2:03:18] parking is really kind of governed by
the lot coverage. So, when you have a
[2:03:22] lower lot coverage permitted, you may
choose to do that for your driveway.
[2:03:27] » Okay. Thanks.
>> A question about number two towards the
[2:03:31] end. Um, short-term rentals. I know they
were discussed pretty heavily in the
[2:03:35] last administration. I was just
wondering what like what uh are people
[2:03:40] coming to you and asking if we can allow
them again or like
[2:03:44] » what's the discussion behind that?
>> Um that's just part of the land use.
[2:03:52] Um the way we've done the land use table
is now instead of just things that have
[2:03:56] conditions being regulated in it, it's
going to be everything. Everything
[2:04:00] standards are going to be in there. So,
they just want to discuss the short-term
[2:04:04] rental standards and get those solid for
you all. I will say that the most
[2:04:10] frequent short-term rental requests I
get are permit consultations, people who
[2:04:14] would like to build an ADU and rent it
out as a short-term rental. And so, that
[2:04:19] concern comes from
>> Right.
[2:04:22] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[2:04:24] » Thanks.
>> Anything else? Planning a time. All
[2:04:28] right. Let's move to the board of
appeals. Uh, no hearing was held, so
[2:04:33] we're done with that.
Seox,
[2:04:38] hello there.
How are you?
[2:04:42] » I'm good. Um, you have the report. The
only thing I would say is we are
[2:04:46] starting to kick into gear for the fifth
grade field trips. They start in two
[2:04:49] weeks. Um, we're getting the oysterium
all set up. We've got our spat ready to
[2:04:54] go and we'll be out next week actually
getting the live spat into the tank and
[2:04:58] running the pump and the water stuff.
So, we're good for that.
[2:05:02] » That's what we're working on.
>> That's great.
[2:05:04] » I remember when we started it.
>> Yep.
[2:05:07] » A long long long time ago.
>> So, thank you. Anybody got questions?
[2:05:12] » Anybody got any questions for
>> Is there anything you need from us to
[2:05:16] make your job easier this season?
>> This time? No.
[2:05:21] » Nope.
>> Great program.
[2:05:23] » Thank you.
>> Great. Well, thank you.
[2:05:29] » All right. Economic development.
>> No report.
[2:05:34] » All right.
[2:05:40] » Green team.
>> Green team.
[2:05:42] » Green team.
>> Okay.
[2:05:46] » Oh. Uh, I saw Jan in the audience and
Sue, so I assumed one of those to speak.
[2:05:53] Go
>> Jan.
[2:05:56] [laughter]
[2:05:59] you have the report. Again, we're doing
just doing our stuff. We have a proposal
[2:06:04] before the town administrator. I'm not
sure where that it stands to put in the
[2:06:09] refreshed pocket park out at the far
side of Kellum's Field. We're waiting on
[2:06:13] um a response on that and whether we can
move forward. Um [snorts] other than
[2:06:18] that, oh, we have Paddle and Pathways
picking up in September. That's Oh, I
[2:06:23] don't have the date on top of May.
September 26th.
[2:06:27] Um, I believe that the registration form
has been put out by it's actually run by
[2:06:33] Parks and Wreck. We do it in conjunction
with them, but they take the lead on it.
[2:06:37] Um, they have a registration um site set
up if anybody wants to register to come
[2:06:43] help us out that day. They will be
running kayaks up the creek to do that
[2:06:48] part. We've got people who are going to
be working the trail. We have people who
[2:06:52] will be doing the whole community center
and Kellum's Field Cleanup. um depending
[2:06:56] on how many volunteers we get to come
out and help with that. So, that's
[2:07:00] coming up soon.
>> All I know is that I dug a tire out
[2:07:06] » last [laughter] year
was out paddling and uh
[2:07:11] » it was a job.
>> They might have a little trophy over
[2:07:14] there with the dragon boats, but I'd
like to see who can get the biggest item
[2:07:19] out in the ring and clean up.
>> What do you think there, John and
[2:07:23] Anthony?
>> Hey, it's on my calendar. win every
[2:07:25] time. [laughter]
>> It's on your calendar.
[2:07:27] » You won.
>> I already got my I already got my what
[2:07:30] I'm picking out. I
>> I'll provide the trophy.
[2:07:32] » You going to fly the trophy?
>> So that's all I can think off the top of
[2:07:38] my head that we got going on.
>> Beaches.
[2:07:40] » A lot of good things going on. That's a
great event.
[2:07:42] » Yeah.
>> So, how much trash did we get last year
[2:07:46] out? That was a good one.
um bags of bags
[2:07:54] » at least 20 bags and I would estimate
about you know it is covered in mud and
[2:07:57] left about 500 lb of trash
>> and that was like just a few hours.
[2:08:03] » Yeah.
>> A lot of the stuff particularly the
[2:08:05] storms came rolling in. We're getting a
lot of stuff washed into the creek off
[2:08:09] the boats and stuff. So the end of the
summer is always a big time to clean up
[2:08:13] the creek. The trail the trail gets
enough of trash, but a lot of people are
[2:08:17] pretty conscientious because the trash
cans are out there. It's not as big a
[2:08:21] deal. We pick up a lot of trash around
Northeast Community Center. I know that
[2:08:25] was a big deal last year. Um, Kellum's
Field is intermittent. Sometimes it's
[2:08:30] clean because they've picked up after
themselves, whoever's using it. Um, and
[2:08:34] other times we do pick up trash there.
So,
[2:08:37] » yeah. Thank you.
>> Yep.
[2:08:39] » Thank you.
>> My voice is worse. I hope you feel
[2:08:42] better.
>> Oh.
[2:08:45] uh Twin Beach uh community health
coalition. Anthony,
[2:08:51] » uh yes. So, we did just have the uplift
Calbert Wellness Festival. We had a uh
[2:08:56] morning with exercises outside. I did
the peach and boxing, but I did not do
[2:09:01] the yoga and pilates cuz I'm a tough
guy. Um but it was fun. A lot of people
[2:09:06] came out and I had a great time. We had
the um the uh championship, our first uh
[2:09:12] kind of American Ninja Warrior obstacle
course. And like I said, I did bring
[2:09:17] shorts for Bruce, but he declined to
actually participate. But we were able
[2:09:21] to raise a good amount of money for the
uh Legion. Thankfully, um along with the
[2:09:28] people from the community who signed up
to participate, uh Rod and Real cut a
[2:09:33] check for $1,000 as well. and that is on
the in the on the way to them as a
[2:09:38] donation. So, it actually worked out
pretty good. Uh the folks of the Legion
[2:09:42] are very happy and appreciative. And um
we do now have a be the one
[2:09:46] representative here in Chesapeake Beach
for uh anybody who's a veteran that's
[2:09:51] dealing with problems with PTSD or needs
somebody to reach out to talk to. So, we
[2:09:56] were happy to facilitate that and make
that happen. Uh also, uh August 31st is
[2:10:01] International Overdose Awareness Day.
will be right over here at Kellum's
[2:10:04] Field at the Hope mural that was done by
Katie Brinkley who you see do a couple
[2:10:08] of has done a couple other murals out
here in uh North Beach and Ches Beach. I
[2:10:13] started that. Um but the the great thing
about it is that uh we do have people
[2:10:18] that are sending in names of anybody who
they've lost first and last names in
[2:10:22] their forever year. We're going to keep
it on that Monday evening. We're going
[2:10:25] to start at 7:00 p.m. Uh we have um
somebody from the health department
[2:10:30] coming out. Uh we have a pastor
[clears throat] there to uh do the
[2:10:34] visual and then we'll say the names and
honor and uh give folks some time to uh
[2:10:39] think about and uh respect their loved
ones. Uh and that's August 31st. If
[2:10:43] anybody would [clears throat] like to be
there, please be there. If anybody would
[2:10:46] like to have a loved one's name said,
please email it to me and I will make
[2:10:50] sure that uh that they get their honor.
Other than that, that is it for me.
[2:10:56] Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[2:10:58] » What time did that event start?
>> 7:00 p.m.
[2:11:00] » All right. It's on my calendar.
>> Thank you.
[2:11:04] Uh walkability committee committee.
>> Um uh I'll I'll keep it short because
[2:11:09] this has been a long meeting, but um my
report is uh basically tracking our
[2:11:14] muchneeded infrastructure and I look
forward to any updates on that every
[2:11:19] time and that is our group's main focus.
But we also are looking forward to um
[2:11:26] Walktober and coming up with ideas that
um can support the habit of walking
[2:11:31] within our community. And we have a new
member um she's in the audience. I don't
[2:11:36] know if she likes to be called out or
not, but um [laughter] she brought a lot
[2:11:40] of good ideas to the table. So our next
meeting we're going to talk about um
[2:11:44] some of the ideas for Walktober and then
our next Celebrate Trails Day. And
[2:11:49] » as always um
>> we are our primary focus is advocating
[2:11:54] for our very much needed infrastructure
um bicycle pedestrian infrastructure.
[2:12:03] » Great. Thank you.
Um water park John.
[2:12:09] » Yep. Uh
>> you had a meeting recently?
[2:12:11] » We had a meeting tonight for the first
time in 3 months. I think we finally got
[2:12:15] some movement with the demolition and
everything. And I've been coordinating
[2:12:19] with Jay on uh trying to get some items
to the Bayside History Museum and um we
[2:12:25] also got some uh bricks from the old
water park we've been giving to
[2:12:29] committee members and the community. So
if you'd like a brick from the old water
[2:12:33] park, uh let me know.
>> I think I would.
[2:12:42] Um, I don't see any unfinished business
on the agenda. Has anybody got anything
[2:12:47] they want to raise? I didn't think so.
New business. Uh, town council to
[2:12:53] consider the reappoint of Amy Everett to
the board of appeals for a three-year
[2:12:56] term. Is Amy here? No.
Anybody got anything to say about this?
[2:13:04] » Oh, I think she's a great choice. Um,
and
[2:13:07] » because we got to wait for a D. That's
what I was going to also say.
[2:13:12] » All right.
Smoke him if you got him. Oh, no. You
[2:13:15] can't do that.
>> That's what they told us in the army.
[2:13:19] There he is. He's back. I'll read it
again. Town council to consider the
[2:13:23] reappoint of Amy Everett to the board of
appeals for a three-year term. Is there
[2:13:27] a motion?
>> Motion to approve.
[2:13:29] » Second.
>> Second.
[2:13:31] » All in favor say I.
>> I.
[2:13:33] » Opposed? The eyes have it. Thank you.
town council to consider the appointment
[2:13:38] appointment of Lawrence Tob as council
to the board of appeals and you're here.
[2:13:42] That's you, right?
>> Why don't you come back to the podium
[2:13:45] one more time and we did meet at the
work session.
[2:13:48] » Yes, sir.
>> Uh there weren't as many people in the
[2:13:51] audience at that time. Uh and just
briefly tell us again your background. I
[2:13:55] know it's extensive.
>> Sure. Thank you. Uh yes, I've been a a
[2:13:59] lady's attorney predominantly in Prince
George's County for I hate to say almost
[2:14:04] 50 years now. Uh but in the past number
of years, I've also served as the city
[2:14:08] attorney for the city of Laurel. Uh in
which time I've advised the board of
[2:14:13] appeals. Uh during my practice years, I
appeared before the board of appeals. Uh
[2:14:17] I've also been uh council of the board
of appeals in Sykesville and Carol
[2:14:21] County. Uh so I've had good experience
on both sides of the table. Great.
[2:14:24] » And uh looking forward to working with
the board of appeals for Chesig Beach.
[2:14:29] » Thank you.
>> Uh is there a motion?
[2:14:32] » Motion to approve.
>> Is there a second?
[2:14:34] » Second. All in favor say I.
>> I.
[2:14:36] » Opposed. Welcome aboard.
>> Thank you very much.
[2:14:39] » Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you.
[2:14:45] » All right. Town council to consider the
approval of the purchase of replacement
[2:14:49] benches of Veterans Park in the amount
of $30,560.
[2:14:54] Jay, is there anything you want to say
about this?
[2:14:58] just that uh their benches we removed
honestly a while back because they were
[2:15:03] uh deteriorating and safety issues and
we looked at other benches and things
[2:15:07] that would fit and really didn't find
anything. Uh so these are going to be
[2:15:11] from the same provider Victor Stanley
local and uh when we get them it's about
[2:15:16] 6 weeks uh once we approve it make
payment and we'll install them.
[2:15:20] » How how long do those benches typically
last?
[2:15:25] » They differ. The ones more exposed to
the sun are shorter, but we, you know,
[2:15:29] the the park was built uh I remember
going there when it was wasn't quite
[2:15:33] done with the original 911. So
15 16 years.
[2:15:39] » That's pretty good for that uh
environment.
[2:15:42] » It is. It's um they're not cheap, but
it's that you know, Veterans Park has a
[2:15:47] certain style that the teak benches we
just ordered for the trail and the
[2:15:52] boardwalk obviously cheaper. Um, but
it's not the same flavor.
[2:15:57] » Right.
>> All right. Is there a motion to approve?
[2:16:01] » Motion to approve.
>> Is there a second?
[2:16:03] » Second.
>> All in favor say I.
[2:16:05] » I.
>> Opposed. The eyes have it. Uh, town
[2:16:08] council to consider authorizing the
mayor's signature on a lease agreement
[2:16:12] with BGE for the rental of space on the
town water tower.
[2:16:17] » Um, is there a motion for approval?
>> Motion to approve.
[2:16:21] » There a second.
>> Second. Any discussion? All in favor say
[2:16:26] I.
>> I.
[2:16:27] » Opposed.
The eyes have it. It is time.
[2:16:35] » You're okay.
>> Okay.
[2:16:38] It was a mental approval, right, Dan?
>> Telepathy. All right. Great. Uh, this is
[2:16:46] the opportunity for public comment. Uh,
if anybody has anything that they would
[2:16:50] like to bring to the town council's
attention, now is the time to come
[2:16:53] forward.
[2:16:56] Is there anybody that wants to come
forward?
[2:17:00] All right, seeing none, time for the
lightning round. Let's start with Dan.
[2:17:07] » You mind if I start? I want to say
something that's really important and I
[2:17:11] think Dan. Do you mind, Dan?
Um,
[2:17:17] but I want to thank and and I know this
this really goes to what Commissioner
[2:17:23] Graasso was saying about leadership.
Councilman Duval had a good long
[2:17:29] conversation with me this week and told
me his concerns about how we were
[2:17:36] looking at the data center, making sure
that we weren't just looking at this as
[2:17:40] a form of appeasement or getting caught
up in the fervor of what everybody is
[2:17:45] looking at from a political standpoint
without having knowledge of it. And
[2:17:51] it's really important to listen to and
and try to understand and come to common
[2:17:58] ground with your fellow council members.
And I appreciated the hour and 30 minute
[2:18:03] conversation that I had with Dan cuz I
was counting that we got to the
[2:18:08] consensus that he was able to understand
why I really was pushing for him to make
[2:18:13] the vote that he did tonight. And I
really want to thank you for partaking
[2:18:19] in that conversation with me, giving me
the the chance to understand where you
[2:18:23] were coming from and you understanding
where I was coming from because that's
[2:18:27] something that needs to happen when
people who are elected or or put in
[2:18:33] positions of leadership.
That's how we lead as a as a group. This
[2:18:38] is not a solo effort. This isn't
something where somebody should be
[2:18:42] calling another person out or making
them feel uncomfortable or saying what
[2:18:45] they should be doing or have to do. We
have to work together. So, I appreciate
[2:18:50] you taking that time to really talk to
me and us coming to a common ground so
[2:18:54] that we can do this for our community.
So, thank you.
[2:18:58] That's it for me.
>> Thank you. Anybody else have any
[2:19:03] comments to close with? Laura?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I have written some
[2:19:07] comments. Um,
>> is it four pages?
[2:19:10] » Mhm.
>> Mhm.
[2:19:13] [laughter]
[2:19:16] » Um, so I am so relieved, impressed, and
grateful for how our county as a whole
[2:19:24] navigated the data center issue to date,
implementing a six-month moratorum on
[2:19:28] the approval process and approvals for
site plans proposing data center
[2:19:33] development projects this past Monday.
Thank you. So many local governments
[2:19:39] have made the same missteps
while entertaining the rapidly evolving
[2:19:45] data industry
for their areas as ours did at first.
[2:19:50] But not all citizens
do or will have the same outcome after
[2:19:57] engaging as Calbertt County citizens
can.
[2:20:02] This is thanks to informed citizens who
took the time to further educate
[2:20:07] themselves and then to engage the public
and our government with their concerns.
[2:20:13] It is also thanks to leaders of all
types and from all corners of the county
[2:20:19] being willing to lend their skills,
influence, and wisdom to the cause of
[2:20:25] protecting our county, the Chesapeake
Bay, and its tributaries. And it's also
[2:20:30] thanks to elected commissioners who are
willing to prioritize the voice of their
[2:20:35] constituents. And we are so lucky for
that. Um, I can't think of a better
[2:20:41] testament to America's 250th anniversary
than what I witnessed in the board of
[2:20:48] county commissioners meeting on Monday
from the citizens, from um the staff,
[2:20:56] the county staff, from the elected
leaders who will remain sitting and the
[2:21:01] elected leaders who will be leaving. It
was a class act and it was the outcome
[2:21:06] that we needed and that um people that
worked very hard petitioning their
[2:21:11] government deserve. Um it is a very
complicated issue. We do have a unique
[2:21:19] um
we have a unique county and it's
[2:21:23] precious and um I'm really glad for that
vote and all the actions and and immense
[2:21:30] amount of work that led up to that vote
to protect our county. So, um thank you
[2:21:36] to all involved. I enjoyed being a
spectator of that. Um, I followed it,
[2:21:42] but I I I didn't have to do anything
because everybody else was already doing
[2:21:48] so much. So, thank you to all involved.
[2:21:53] » Yeah, I agree. Um, I'm glad the public
is showing up. I'm glad like our
[2:21:58] meetings seem to be getting more well
attended and I hope that people feel
[2:22:01] that they have a voice and they can come
to us with their concerns and I hope
[2:22:06] that we can address as many as possible.
That's it.
[2:22:14] I'd like to thank the public for coming
out and speaking. Um I think the
[2:22:23] the role of a elected person is is to
be a collective voice of the body. So we
[2:22:35] have I've said it many times we have
about 1,250 people we represent with
[2:22:42] this uh with this seat and um engaging
with the public uh
[2:22:50] and getting feedback from them directly
um is what I try to do. I bring forth
[2:22:58] some hard questions and a lot of these
things are brought to me from citizens
[2:23:05] and uh and residents and constituents
and uh
[2:23:13] try to hear them as Anthony said, spend
an hour and a half on the phone with him
[2:23:18] um to make sure that we weren't doing
something that would have inverse
[2:23:22] actions. you know, uh, the county I
appreciate on Tuesday you're being to
[2:23:27] set the moratorum and, um, it's
for us it's simple. We don't have it
[2:23:34] that complex. We can just say the
geographical area just does not fit. Uh,
[2:23:39] for Cal, I think taking the steps that
evaluate it so that we don't put
[2:23:46] ourselves in a legal situation, I think
that's the appropriate steps. I like how
[2:23:51] outspoken Calary County is. You know, we
uh
[2:23:57] we are very strong and and we vote
strong in the primary. I I think that's
[2:24:02] one of the things I'm most proud of is
how strong we vote. Um and I don't know,
[2:24:08] have a
wonderful Labor Day weekend that's
[2:24:12] coming up. Happy Labor Day.
>> Thank you. Um, and I'll just I'll just
[2:24:20] say that um
I I want to reiterate that the carnival
[2:24:26] is is still here and that was that was a
lot of fun. Um and then also um recently
[2:24:35] um the hospital had the Suare by the Bay
event uh at the Rod and Real Hotel which
[2:24:42] I was able to attend and uh or decided
to attend uh with my wife and that was
[2:24:50] and Marilyn I won't tell anybody about
your dancing. I promise I won't tell
[2:24:54] anybody about you dancing down on the
dock. I'm not going to say a word about
[2:24:57] it. good dancing.
>> But uh but it was it was a lot of fun
[2:25:02] and and I haven't heard any results from
Bob Carpenter or anybody else about uh
[2:25:09] how much money they raised for the
hospital, but I suspect it was pretty
[2:25:12] substantial. Um and so I this just
speaks to us living in a small town in a
[2:25:21] relatively small county. Um, and the
fact that uh people work together to get
[2:25:27] things done and it makes me proud to be
here makes me proud to be uh serving the
[2:25:33] public and and working with this council
to to get things done. I'm very proud of
[2:25:37] it all and especially our third district
county commissioner who I've gotten to
[2:25:42] know quite well by now and and your your
wonderful husband. So, um that's all I
[2:25:48] have. Um, if anybody has a motion for
adjournment, I would certainly
[2:25:52] entertain.
>> Motion to adjourn.
[2:25:55] » I knew it'd be you.
>> Is there a second? Is there a third and
[2:25:58] a fourth? [laughter]
>> All in favor say I.
[2:26:03] » I.
>> Oppose. You're You'd be nuts. Uh, thank
[2:26:07] you all for being here. Council members,
thank you for your participation and
[2:26:12] your hard work.