1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,840 Thanks, and welcome to the May 27, 2025. Town of Danville Planning Commission meeting on Lu Palundraini, the current chair of the Planning Commission. 2 00:00:10,660 --> 00:00:13,180 And I'd like my fellow commissioners to introduce themselves. 3 00:00:15,370 --> 00:00:16,470 Paul Reddish, Planning Commissioner. 4 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:18,950 Chris Trujillo, Planning Commissioner. 5 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:21,070 Mark Graham, Planning Commissioner. 6 00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:23,030 Archivol's Vice Chair. 7 00:00:23,870 --> 00:00:25,030 Ian Hawker, Planning Commissioner. 8 00:00:25,930 --> 00:00:27,210 All right, thank you. 9 00:00:27,210 --> 00:00:30,570 David, are there any changes to the order of the agenda? 10 00:00:31,450 --> 00:00:31,970 No changes. 11 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:43,250 The next part of the agenda is for the good of the town, and this is an opportunity for the community to address an issue that may not be on the agenda. 12 00:00:44,610 --> 00:00:53,030 So, if anybody has that type of issue, please, 13 00:00:53,030 --> 00:00:59,110 in the meeting. Right now, the only speaker card I have relates to a gender item 5.1. 14 00:01:02,550 --> 00:01:07,670 With nobody presenting a speaker card, we'll close that item and move on to item 4 15 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:12,090 of the agenda, which is the consent portion of the calendar. 16 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:16,850 This is where items 17 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:23,850 can have a vote as to consent of agreement on it. The one item that we have under 18 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:33,870 The consent portion of the agenda is to consider approval of the summary of actions from the regular planning commission meeting of April 22, 2025 19 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:36,070 Do I have a motion to approve? 20 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:43,590 Commissioner Graham I move approval of the current of the consent calendar second second from Commissioner Trujillo 21 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:46,590 All in favor. I 22 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:49,830 Passes 23 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:53,830 Okay, now we come to item 5.1 of our meeting and 24 00:01:53,850 --> 00:02:01,310 And this issue relates to resolution number 2025-04, which would be 25 00:02:01,310 --> 00:02:08,890 approving the development plan request dv24-009, allowing the development 26 00:02:08,890 --> 00:02:14,050 of the IV, a 105 unit assisted living facility, and the tree removal 27 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:22,530 permit request tr25-0013 to allow the removal of five town protected trees. 28 00:02:22,530 --> 00:02:32,590 The property is located at 828 Diablo Road, currently occupied by a slow garden center, and our project planner is Riley Anderson Barrett. 29 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:37,750 So I will turn it over to the town staff, David Riley. 30 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:38,610 Right. 31 00:02:38,990 --> 00:02:39,470 Thank you. 32 00:02:39,970 --> 00:02:42,490 Good evening, Chair Powell and Drone and Commissioners. 33 00:02:43,050 --> 00:02:51,710 So we are here to talk about 828 Diablo Road, which is known as the IV proposal for an assisted living facility. 34 00:02:52,870 --> 00:02:58,630 So we'll go over a quick overview, including a project summary, reviewing the general plan and zoning 35 00:02:58,630 --> 00:03:03,850 compliance of the project, reviewing state housing laws and our housing element, as well 36 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:09,330 as density bonus and waivers, we'll also review some design improvements that we've seen 37 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:15,670 and seek a categorical exemption of the project as well as traffic and then we will be open for 38 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:16,330 questions. 39 00:03:18,150 --> 00:03:24,010 Quick summary of the project, it's on a 2.72 acre parcel, which is currently home to the 40 00:03:24,010 --> 00:03:24,990 Slope Garden Center. 41 00:03:25,530 --> 00:03:32,090 The applicant is proposing 105 units, 75 of which will be assisted living, and 30 will 42 00:03:32,090 --> 00:03:33,650 be memory care units. 43 00:03:34,430 --> 00:03:41,210 The building is 112,12,124 square feet, and it is three stories. 44 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:45,030 And this project was reviewed by the design review board. 45 00:03:45,130 --> 00:03:49,330 It went to them on March 13th, as well as April 10th of this year. 46 00:03:49,650 --> 00:03:57,750 And the architecture landscaping and overall design was recommended for approval for the planning commission. 47 00:03:59,110 --> 00:04:02,490 This project does meet general planning and zoning compliance. 48 00:04:03,070 --> 00:04:08,910 It is zoned and 35, which is multi-family high-density special district. 49 00:04:08,910 --> 00:04:12,990 It was reasoned as part of our most recent housing element. 50 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:16,970 This parcel is zone for residential multi-family, 51 00:04:17,550 --> 00:04:24,230 which has a density of 30 to 35 units per acre for the minimum maximum. 52 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:30,950 But the applicant is proposing 38.6 units per acre using density bonus. 53 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:36,370 So this would be an additional 10 units and 10.5 percent increase. 54 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:41,370 And now I will have David discuss some housing laws. 55 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:44,190 Good evening once again. 56 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:47,250 I wanted to take just a moment to kind of go back 57 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,650 and highlight some of the state housing laws 58 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:55,570 that in a very large way affect our ability 59 00:04:56,670 --> 00:05:00,270 to review this project the way that we might have five or ten years ago. 60 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:03,330 There's a lot of state laws that kind of preempt us in our review. 61 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:07,950 And especially over the last five or 10 years, there's been dozens and dozens of state laws. 62 00:05:08,810 --> 00:05:10,330 But I want to highlight just a few of them here. 63 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:13,470 So one of them is the state housing element laws. 64 00:05:14,170 --> 00:05:15,350 I'm started back in 1969. 65 00:05:15,790 --> 00:05:17,230 We just finished our sixth cycle. 66 00:05:17,490 --> 00:05:19,450 They're housing elements going eight year cycles. 67 00:05:20,290 --> 00:05:21,810 I'm going to talk more about that in a moment. 68 00:05:22,730 --> 00:05:23,990 Housing and accountability act. 69 00:05:24,250 --> 00:05:25,390 Housing crisis act. 70 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:29,450 The state has declared a housing crisis in California. 71 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:31,450 And therefore all of these laws. 72 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:43,130 The basically aim of these laws is they're calling them anti-nambulas and the really the aim is to make them very difficult not to approve at a local level. 73 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:49,090 They basically say that we can only look at objective diplomacy on it so we can only look at stuff like setbacks and height. 74 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:54,110 We're not allowed to look at stuff subjective standards like design. 75 00:05:54,630 --> 00:06:00,370 Luckily we've had a couple of really cooperative applicants that have worked with us quite a bit on design so that's great. 76 00:06:00,370 --> 00:06:06,290 There's also streamlining effects, and so once an application is deemed to be complete, 77 00:06:06,970 --> 00:06:10,090 we only have 90 days to take a final action on it. 78 00:06:10,430 --> 00:06:12,210 We're going to call five public hearings. 79 00:06:13,010 --> 00:06:16,310 If we don't during that time, it'll be deemed approved by default. 80 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:21,150 A UL, most of you will remember that as process video, 81 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:23,950 it's just went through for the six cycle housing element. 82 00:06:24,090 --> 00:06:29,930 This is the 23 to 31 housing element that was approved by the stage just over a year ago. 83 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:35,790 It's a process that starts at the state level, and again, the state has declared a housing crisis. 84 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:45,650 And so each housing element cycle, one of the big lifts is that every city is given what's called the Rina regional housing needs assessment. 85 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:51,850 And so we're tasked with accommodating a certain number of housing units in our community over the next eight years. 86 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:57,970 So, as part of this cycle, the state of California gave A-Bag our regional 9-county 87 00:06:57,970 --> 00:07:05,870 barrier housing agency, 4,441,176 units to accommodate in this eight-year cycle that 88 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:06,850 ends in 2021. 89 00:07:08,190 --> 00:07:11,410 And so, as part of that process, A-Bag went through a methodology, and they signed the town 90 00:07:11,410 --> 00:07:13,410 of Danville, 2,241 units. 91 00:07:14,110 --> 00:07:17,350 And those are at different affordable income levels. 92 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:21,310 Some of them have to be very low income, some low income, some moderate. 93 00:07:21,310 --> 00:07:23,210 and some above a moderate income. 94 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:25,690 The end of the deal did appeal that assignment. 95 00:07:26,530 --> 00:07:27,570 A number of cities did. 96 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:30,250 We felt like most of the things 97 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:33,130 that the housing units should be prioritized 98 00:07:33,130 --> 00:07:35,430 to be placed near where the jobs are. 99 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:40,810 That would limit highway impacts, 100 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:43,150 driving impacts as well as greenhouse gas impacts 101 00:07:43,150 --> 00:07:44,850 that were also mandated to reduce. 102 00:07:45,850 --> 00:07:47,790 We lost that appeal as to all the other cities. 103 00:07:48,770 --> 00:07:53,270 But I want to emphasize that Danville doesn't build homes, and we have no control over whether 104 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:55,230 a private property owner built homes. 105 00:07:55,990 --> 00:08:00,530 And so really all our job was to make sure that we have enough land that's owned at 106 00:08:00,530 --> 00:08:04,250 high enough density to accommodate that 2,000 to 4,000 to 4,000 to 4,000 units. 107 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:10,170 So we didn't have enough land, and so through it to this four-year process, with a lot of public 108 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:16,130 engagement, we ended up rezoning 70 plus parcels worldwide to most I found many houses, including 109 00:08:16,130 --> 00:08:18,650 this parcel at 8 to 8 Della. 110 00:08:20,410 --> 00:08:24,670 There are significant penalties for cities that don't comply with housing element law and 111 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:29,370 or follow through with housing element law as far as permitting residential projects. 112 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:34,770 First is court imposed fines of $100,000 a month. 113 00:08:35,770 --> 00:08:39,610 We can and other cities have lost their ability to issue any building permits. 114 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:41,250 They put more time on your building department. 115 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:44,930 They can mandate compliance. 116 00:08:45,450 --> 00:08:50,690 Basically, a judge can place a subtype of planning agency, 117 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:54,770 consulting from to do your planning for you instead of, you know, 118 00:08:54,770 --> 00:08:58,350 the people that have worked in the community and 119 00:08:58,350 --> 00:09:01,610 know our community, we could have outside people trying to plan for us. 120 00:09:02,170 --> 00:09:07,250 And any lawsuit that we would lose, we would owe all of the attorney's fees. 121 00:09:07,250 --> 00:09:14,210 So there's, there's, some of these laws have been approved to put teeth into requiring cities to comply with the state law. 122 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:24,710 The law that, um, has the largest effect on this project and some of the other projects that we are reviewing and have reviewed is the state density bonus law. 123 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:34,370 This is a law that basically says that any project can add additional units to the project, even above and beyond the maximum under our general plan, which is 35 units naked. 124 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:39,270 can add more units. They can, under state law, they can add up to, they can get up to 125 00:09:39,270 --> 00:09:44,890 a 50% density bonus is the max allowed under the law. And they can do that in exchange 126 00:09:44,890 --> 00:09:50,350 for providing certain levels of affordable housing along with it. However, senior housing is 127 00:09:50,350 --> 00:09:54,970 exempt from affordable units, so senior housing is also something that state wants, so if you do 128 00:09:54,970 --> 00:10:00,670 state, if you do senior housing, you get the density with no affordable requirements. Along with 129 00:10:00,670 --> 00:10:04,690 As you can see on us, applicants are also entitled to incentive 130 00:10:04,690 --> 00:10:07,850 concessions and waivers, unlimited for senior housing, 131 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:10,350 basically unlimited number of waivers, and this is basically 132 00:10:10,350 --> 00:10:14,510 asking to reduce or eliminate development standards 133 00:10:14,510 --> 00:10:17,130 that might otherwise inhibit the development. 134 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:20,430 And so those are things like height and story 135 00:10:20,430 --> 00:10:23,250 as a four-year ratio parking setbacks. 136 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:27,070 And again, there's the state laws really 137 00:10:27,070 --> 00:10:31,810 It's a very narrowly defined how on what circumstance a city could deny a waiver. 138 00:10:32,530 --> 00:10:36,970 That's only made a finding based on evidence that we have that the waiver would result 139 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:40,290 in adverse health and safety impacts to our community. 140 00:10:41,330 --> 00:10:44,430 So I'm going to turn back over to Riley to complete the presentation. 141 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:48,770 So he just discussed these waivers. 142 00:10:50,290 --> 00:10:54,170 So the applicant has asked for three separate waivers, one of which would be for height our 143 00:10:54,170 --> 00:11:06,070 account ordinance says that the project should have an average height of 35 feet and the applicant is requesting an average height of 37 feet and six inches with a maximum height of 40 feet. 144 00:11:06,970 --> 00:11:20,470 And the height in our ordinance also states that 7.5% of the third story should be represented as two or two and a half stories, but 100% of the third story is three stories rather than two or two and a half. 145 00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:40,850 They also ask for a waiver of our retaining wall height, our ordinance states that the retaining wall should be a maximum of six feet, but they are requesting that the retaining wall on the western side, the rear of the property would range between six and a half to 13 and a half feet to accommodate for grading. 146 00:11:41,470 --> 00:11:48,190 And last is that the second and third story, our ordnance states that the side and rear 147 00:11:48,190 --> 00:11:52,370 set back of the second and third story should be 50 feet, but the applicant is requesting 148 00:11:52,370 --> 00:12:02,810 a minimum of 36 feet and 7 inches on the southern side and 128 to the rear of the property, 149 00:12:02,810 --> 00:12:04,850 which was on the Western side. 150 00:12:06,770 --> 00:12:14,850 And this project has gone through a fair amount of modifications with staff as well as when it went to the design review board. 151 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:17,350 We revised the building design. 152 00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:21,890 A major difference was that they flipped the design of the building. 153 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:32,030 So the drive aisle, which is originally on the northern side, is now on the southern side to give a larger set back between the building and the neighboring residences. 154 00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:38,630 and they also revise the roof line providing as well as combining cables, adding popouts and 155 00:12:38,630 --> 00:12:43,530 awnings to provide better articulation, and removing all of the third story balconies on 156 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:48,150 the southern elevation to appease some of the residences and provide more privacy. 157 00:12:49,010 --> 00:12:55,270 They're also asking, sorry, they're also revising their landscaping, and they were asked 158 00:12:55,270 --> 00:13:00,330 to contract gross screening trees, so they will be participating in that so that they can 159 00:13:00,330 --> 00:13:04,930 plant additional screening trees, which will be larger and will accommodate for more privacy 160 00:13:04,930 --> 00:13:08,650 with the neighboring residences. 161 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:14,310 They've also modified the building materials and colors and have changed them to be an 162 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:16,690 off-white and an olive colored sighting. 163 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:19,330 And lastly, they modified the lighting. 164 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:23,230 They verified that all of the parking lot lighting will be dark sky compliant. 165 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:29,250 And they reselected pathway lighting and wall sconces to eliminate some potential glare issues. 166 00:13:30,490 --> 00:13:34,710 They are requesting the removal of five protected trees. 167 00:13:35,010 --> 00:13:40,790 91 trees are proposed for a removal in total and they will be required to mitigate removal 168 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:44,430 of these five protected trees by planting onsite. 169 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:54,040 Many projects are required to have environmental review and this type of project is considered 170 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,220 an infill development because it is consistent with our general plan and zoning. 171 00:13:58,220 --> 00:14:04,960 it has no identified potentially significant environmental impacts and has existing access to public 172 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:12,400 utilities such as water and sewer. So it is considered exempt under class 32 as an info development. 173 00:14:13,220 --> 00:14:19,480 As part of our ordinance, um, 35 districts are required to prepare various environmental studies 174 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:26,100 and this project has done so such as traffic, hydrology, phase one study in geotechnical studies. 175 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:37,140 A quick look at the traffic impact, a city was done and it reviewed that there would be no impact on the level of service to the surrounding intersections. 176 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:52,160 It also determined that there would be no impacts to bicycle or pedestrians and that the project would allow us to maintain the counties standard for bicycles and pedestrians. 177 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:59,280 And it also reviewed parking, and the applicant is proposing 60 parking spaces, where is the town would on. 178 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,100 Number 437, and the ITE requirement would be 44, so they are exceeding the parking requirement. 179 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,760 And there are no mitigations required, but improvements were suggested, which include a drive aisle 180 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:18,020 delineation with a double yellow line at the driveway, as well as a stop sign installed at the driveway. 181 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,060 And thank you. I am available for questions. 182 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,780 Thanks, Riley. Thanks, David. Let me bring it back to the commission. Do any of the numbers have 183 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:29,660 What's your question on the staff? 184 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:32,570 Mr. Graham? 185 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:37,910 In the traffic report, it said that there wasn't an impact. 186 00:15:38,670 --> 00:15:42,010 I know in the current environment, the drive aisle, 187 00:15:42,330 --> 00:15:47,030 the exit out of the current, slowed on the north side 188 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:48,190 is a right turn only. 189 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:50,950 And the one that's on further down. 190 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:52,790 So they're going to keep that same access. 191 00:15:53,190 --> 00:15:56,010 Was it looked at to make that a right turn only given that 192 00:15:56,010 --> 00:15:59,770 the level of service out of that driveway is at F right now? 193 00:15:59,770 --> 00:16:05,190 Yes, I believe all of that was reviewed with our traffic division. 194 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:13,030 I know they had discussions back and forth with the consultant, but more extensive traffic 195 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:15,290 questions can go to their traffic consultant. 196 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:23,530 Just to clarify, the existing northerly entrance is eliminated, so all we have is the southerly 197 00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:27,950 one at this point, and that would be a, it was studied to allow both directions. 198 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:30,210 Sure. 199 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:33,890 Wait, did they say on this Southern piece because they're collapsing it to two, or the 200 00:16:33,890 --> 00:16:37,790 collapsing from two to one on the south side of the site, they're going to have a right 201 00:16:37,790 --> 00:16:38,410 aim right out. 202 00:16:38,530 --> 00:16:43,470 Wasn't that what the traffic study recommended, and is not what they said they were going 203 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:44,870 to do in the design? 204 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,880 No, there was no concern about left, left, out, no concern about, okay. 205 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,460 Yeah, they show on the plan, they can still make a left turn, they're down at that southern 206 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:02,940 we got it. Okay. Drive a little. I miss under 207 00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:05,580 Senate. Wisher or Mr. Graham? 208 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:06,620 Excuse me. 209 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,420 I have a question regarding the facility. 210 00:17:11,940 --> 00:17:14,980 I'm assuming it's going to be a state license assisted living facility. 211 00:17:15,980 --> 00:17:20,660 And in that 55 years and older and will it be de-drospective? 212 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:25,380 I don't know that we necessarily need to de-d. 213 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,120 This, it's not usually we do that when it's going under our, you know, 214 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,600 one of our ordinances are inclusionary housing ordinance, 215 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:34,320 so what have you and we want to do a half-portal housing 216 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:34,740 agreement. 217 00:17:35,740 --> 00:17:38,680 But this one, the way that it's set up and the way it's licensed 218 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,080 and the way that it's funded, it's going to be a skill. 219 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,780 It's going to be a assisted living facility, 220 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,060 and it's going to be older people. 221 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,380 I mean, if you want to be extra sure, I mean, 222 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:52,980 who knows, maybe 25 years down the road, 223 00:17:53,260 --> 00:17:54,160 it morphs into something different. 224 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:57,480 I mean, we could add a condition if that's what the commission 225 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,160 And does I, and it's going to be for rent, not for own correct? 226 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,160 All right. 227 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:06,420 Any Fisher Advice? 228 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,220 Was the, I looked at the Taricon report. 229 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:12,340 There was, is the phase one study? 230 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:13,680 Was that a limited phase one? 231 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,980 Or was that a full phase one? 232 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:18,340 I mean, it felt like, was it a full phase one? 233 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:22,460 If I know they came back a second time for the phase one assessment. 234 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:25,820 And then they discovered some things. 235 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:29,680 but, you know, I guess there's different levels 236 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,180 of a phase one, I don't know if Terricon's here to address that, 237 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,340 but no. 238 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,780 Yeah, potentially the applicant may be able to address that further, 239 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,340 but there was a phase one and then they took it to another level 240 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:44,160 to do the limited study and the different one board. 241 00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:46,940 Yeah, and so, you know, they did identify 242 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:49,720 any other summaries of concerns, contaminated soils. 243 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:54,080 And so the way that that works is that they'll need to get 244 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,740 permits through the county hazardous materials, hazardous waste department. 245 00:18:59,780 --> 00:19:06,540 And so they would then be the permitting body, they have permits, they have ways of 246 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:10,600 that needs to be done, they are out on the site inspecting as it is being done. 247 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,000 And so basically, we know what kind of the parameters are, they will have to probably study 248 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,940 a little bit further, but then they will have to go to that other agencies that expertise 249 00:19:19,940 --> 00:19:24,780 in this type of work to actually do the work and get permits and 250 00:19:24,780 --> 00:19:25,460 finals. 251 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:29,780 Commissioner Bols. 252 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:33,920 Just to follow up, I didn't read it in the report, but is there going to be post-medication 253 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:35,360 testing as well? 254 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Now again, that would be part of the protocol that would be set up by the county. 255 00:19:42,550 --> 00:19:43,210 Any other questions? 256 00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:44,910 I assume the applicant has a presentation. 257 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:47,310 Any other questions from the commission? 258 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:50,750 Rather, we'll turn it back to you. 259 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:51,650 And 260 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:54,760 the applicant. 261 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,460 Is that this all? 262 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,200 That's all. 263 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:23,320 You need to be turned off. 264 00:20:26,550 --> 00:20:27,290 Good evening. 265 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:28,630 Here you go. 266 00:20:28,750 --> 00:20:29,410 There we go. 267 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:30,490 I'll see you back a little bit. 268 00:20:30,590 --> 00:20:31,310 I do talk loud. 269 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:33,170 Good evening, commissioner. 270 00:20:34,330 --> 00:20:38,050 Thank you everybody here tonight for allowing us to present. 271 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:39,410 My name's Carissa Sabond. 272 00:20:40,150 --> 00:20:43,390 I am the Vice President of Development for Owen I. 273 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:47,310 I actually have a lot of the team here. 274 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:53,890 have our architect, landscape architect, the traffic engineer, and as well as Oakmont operations 275 00:20:53,890 --> 00:20:58,510 too, because through the community outreach we've had a lot of questions come up, so somebody 276 00:20:58,510 --> 00:20:59,710 here can answer them tonight. 277 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:05,380 Yeah, basically, Riley, thank you for your presentation. 278 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,840 I'm going to go through just a couple of things here fairly quickly. 279 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,480 I think you had on everything, but we just wanted to talk through the outreach changes 280 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,220 that were made to the plans, and then let me know if you guys have any further questions 281 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:23,420 after that. So O&I Development is the California-based firm and we're focused exclusively 282 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:29,260 on senior living. In partnership with our affiliate and operating company Oakmont Management 283 00:21:29,260 --> 00:21:34,580 Group, we have built a strong portfolio throughout California best in class assisted living 284 00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:40,300 in memory care communities. Oakmont is one of the most respected senior housing operators in the 285 00:21:41,260 --> 00:21:44,400 we're going to recognize for our high-tech resident care, 286 00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:47,400 experience leadership, and our operational excellence. 287 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,100 Today we actually operate over 100 communities throughout California 288 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:56,220 and we have a couple of locations in Nevada and Hawaii. 289 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,020 So the IV at Danville, 290 00:22:02,790 --> 00:22:03,350 there we go. 291 00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:06,950 The IV at Danville is part of our strategic partnership with Well Tower. 292 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:08,950 They're one of the largest, the largest, 293 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:16,090 United States and globally, and combining their industry leading expert experience in health care 294 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:24,250 with our development and operating capabilities, we offer a fully integrated approach to this. 295 00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:28,490 And I think it's important we say that because we are a owner operator and developer. 296 00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:33,550 So my team doesn't just come in through the development and permitting and then we leave. 297 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:37,110 So we are long-term holders and we'll be the operators as well. 298 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:44,030 This alignment truly enables us to thoughtfully design build and manage a high-quality communities 299 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:48,110 with that long-term commitment I mentioned to the residents and the community. 300 00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:53,090 We're very proud of all the efforts that come into this project to date. 301 00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:58,790 It's been a lot of work and we started with two diligence and community outreach on the early onset. 302 00:22:59,350 --> 00:23:04,950 And then we've made a lot of the changes that Riley is addressed to make sure it's compatible with the neighborhood. 303 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:21,140 So I don't want to be too repetitive with Riley, with what Riley presented, but yeah, we're proposing our 105 units. 304 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,220 We started our outreach, and I think I'm going to just jump to that. 305 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:36,000 We started our outreach efforts last September, and given the history on the site, the up zoning that happened to M35, we're aware of that. 306 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:43,360 So we held in meeting back in October for the community and we heard all of the concerns 307 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:50,320 that you've been listening to tonight, building high in massing, setbacks, privacy, landscaping, 308 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:55,080 landscaping, the screening, the traffic impacts on that existing intersection. 309 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:59,100 And then of course the zoning to the high density. 310 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:05,340 We went back, we probably spent about eight weeks with our design team. 311 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:13,760 We re-engineered the site, flipped the building, did some significant design changes in order 312 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,220 to come back to the community and hopefully our message was we heard you, here's what we 313 00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:19,720 did. 314 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,920 We incorporated everything that we could as long as our project was still going to be feasible. 315 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,680 So the biggest one really touched on was obviously flipping the building. 316 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,980 That single loaded corridor is now towards the south side where the homes are, 317 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,680 which there's now not units facing out into, you know, there yards. 318 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,260 With the building height too, because there was a lot of false information going around. 319 00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:48,520 Some of the community heard it was 45 feet, three and a half stories. 320 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,540 It's not, it's three stories. 321 00:24:50,540 --> 00:24:53,540 The majority of our building is at 35 feet. 322 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,520 There's a few gaples and peaks that are 37 up to 40. 323 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,520 And then we went through the setbacks. 324 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,700 We increased the south property line setback to gain another 10 feet. 325 00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:11,640 And with that, our landscape architect also increased the landscaping bed over there too. 326 00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:13,460 About another two feet. 327 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,340 So we can plant more trees to help screen privacy, do the shrubbery, 328 00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:20,120 and everything like that when we go through permitting with the city. 329 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,140 To touch a little bit on traffic and operations, we did hear a lot of concerns about the safety 330 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:32,780 of that intersection and what's going on and the school down the street where we're involved 331 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:33,740 this. 332 00:25:34,660 --> 00:25:43,540 So we are able to basically stagger our shifts so they're not doing shift changes at peak hours 333 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:47,340 when everybody's on the road at 8 a.m. and everybody's off work at 5 and then when school 334 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:53,140 gets out, you know, whatever time. So we do this often, especially when we're in like a residential 335 00:25:53,760 --> 00:26:00,780 infill area too. So, um, and we also told the community that we will, there's parking concerns 336 00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:04,860 on Benton Court too and that's their neighborhood and they don't want our, our associate's going 337 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:10,280 over there and parking and creating problems over there. So, um, we will implement and work on a 338 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,120 parking management plan, which is very common as well. And then like I said, we are a long-term 339 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:19,240 So they can call us when they have all of our contact information if our problem would 340 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,460 as a rise. 341 00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:24,220 Let's see if I'm missing anything on there. 342 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:30,040 And I think on the landscape and the other thing I know with the trees, we're removing 343 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,640 five protected trees. 344 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,020 Three of them are due to poor health. 345 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:36,760 Two of them are just part of the site design. 346 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,880 But a lot of the trees on that, the site currently are in poor health. 347 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,180 We are planting 145 trees when we develop this site. 348 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:49,800 And that's going to be better fit. 349 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,520 For the soils, they'll grow better. 350 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:54,420 It's not going to be massive red woods by the sidewalks 351 00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,760 for the street. 352 00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:59,980 And we're really working together with the neighbors who have 353 00:26:59,980 --> 00:27:02,420 reached out so we can really focus on that project's 354 00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:03,920 the screening for them, too. 355 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:09,960 And so I think I'll just kind of leave it here. 356 00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:13,320 So just kind of enclosing, too, I really 357 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,580 do want to say, the community 358 00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:20,940 meeting, you know, good, bad and different. We appreciate all the feedback that we do get. 359 00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:28,100 We got good feedback from the DRB as well. To the extent possible, we went and did a lot of changes 360 00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:33,340 and spent a lot of time listening to the Danville community. You know, I think we're at some 361 00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:36,900 important, you know, we're not required to do that as a developer, but we truly look at this as we're 362 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:41,920 coming in as a partner and a part of this community and we are arguing to be here long term. That 363 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,120 I mean, we're able to listen when we can make changes 364 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,860 when we can just to make sure our project, 365 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,900 as long as our project isn't unfeasible. 366 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,240 So I think I just quickly want to say thank you 367 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320 to the town too for all the collaboration and work 368 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,200 that's gotten us to this here today. 369 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,580 And we are happy to answer any more questions. 370 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,140 Let's come up. 371 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,360 Thank you. 372 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,520 Let me bring it back to the commission 373 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920 if you could stay there, you might have to share. 374 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,080 So I'll take some discussion with your team. 375 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,480 I'm up here. 376 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,080 Commissioner Bols. 377 00:28:14,020 --> 00:28:19,120 Can you explain, like, the redwoods on the corner of Diablo and El Cero that they're 378 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:24,380 not actually on the site property, why they're listed for removal due to site incompatibility, 379 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:30,680 That would just be, then, like, correct me if I'm wrong, but that would just be, it's just 380 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,720 the design of the site. 381 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,900 If it's not, it's so if they're not listed as poor health, it's just the site layout. 382 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,560 Can you, in regards to grading, fences, walls, why? 383 00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:45,720 Where can you go through a quick, do, do you have the landscape? 384 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,100 Yes, so the trees on the corner of the church. 385 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,820 If you go up to the mic, please. 386 00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:51,560 Stay tuned. 387 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:55,300 Blake Tomlos Reinhardt with Blocked Sun, the landscape architect. 388 00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:56,140 Thank you. 389 00:28:56,380 --> 00:29:00,260 So those three trees are going to be affected by the grading on the site. 390 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,220 Due to that, by a retention of how the slope just needs to be graded, 391 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:06,400 about half the trees group all will be impacted 392 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:12,220 and that's once it go all the way up I'll 393 00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:18,260 Sarah including the valley oaks yes same thing there it's kind of all across all the trees along 394 00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:20,040 the frontage kind of same issue 395 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:29,580 yeah so all the frontage and then even around on 396 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,760 Diablo 397 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:43,940 wish you true I was part of those DRB meetings and the drawings that we received 398 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:49,160 for tonight's meeting or dated March 26th, I know that one of the 399 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,420 concessions was to do away with all the balconies on the south elevation. 400 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Has that been done? 401 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:59,540 Yes, and I know you kind of mentioned that, but yes, we did take them away. 402 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:09,420 Thank you. Yeah, the current rendering still showed the balconies on the south. And when she said, I was like, oh, I should correct that. 403 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,300 We were glad Riley picked it up. 404 00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:27,140 On page 7 of the pulmonary parking plan, you've got, well, the first question I have is you show three future electric charging stations back on the west side parking lot. 405 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:34,120 Were those going to be single stations or were those going to be dual, so they would serve both? 406 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,700 I think they're dual, we'd do all right. 407 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,420 One single, one single, one single. 408 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:48,020 And then out on the front, on the east side, you have a charging station out there. 409 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:49,280 I believe it's in the handicap. 410 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Is that a handicap zone as well? 411 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:52,220 So it's going to serve both purposes. 412 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,360 Okay, I just want to clarify that. 413 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,520 It's correct. 414 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,180 Who is your radish? 415 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,100 A few questions here. 416 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:03,360 I'll just kind of list them off over. 417 00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:04,900 Remember here. 418 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:09,100 In your application, you mentioned that you have monitored 419 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,900 amenities tailored to enhance the daily lives of residents. 420 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,820 I'll tell me about some of those modern amenities. 421 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,780 What is a sensory room? 422 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,260 More of a curiosity thing. 423 00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:22,100 Have you considered, since you are a long-term developer, 424 00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:30,940 holder owner have you considered solar, you know, in the parking lot for a long term, you 425 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:33,600 know, viability of electric production. 426 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:41,320 And the third question I guess would be, what is the, you know, we talk about building height. 427 00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:46,560 What type of mechanical system are you putting in and will that exceed the building height? 428 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:50,400 You know, the mechanical system is going to be on the roof, these large box units that 429 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,100 I'm sure there would be a parapet, but would that be what do you have? 430 00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:56,700 So I'll start with a sensory room. 431 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:03,100 So some of these, we just opened our first community in Roseville, and we put it together 432 00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:03,660 a sensory room. 433 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,200 It's basically like a lot of for memory care, dementia Alzheimer's, it's like a lot of tactile 434 00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:12,800 stuff, as well as kind of digital projections. 435 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,560 So whether you're doing a game on a table top or, you know, in a caregiver typically comes 436 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:25,060 with the resident but are doing wall art things and depending on the community like whether it's 437 00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:30,260 wood or rock or like a stream and so it's things to kind of help just trigger the memory. 438 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,280 Instead of like I think you'd probably more used to feel like we used to always do those 439 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,740 stations right where you'd have like a baby station or wedding dresses but we're trying to kind 440 00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:44,100 of monitor it like use technology and see if there's anything new out there. 441 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:51,940 Solar, yeah, it depends, it's kind of given construction costs sometimes too, it depends 442 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:57,200 we look at it, but we're thinking a lot about solar in our developments, because there 443 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,960 are new developments right now, but we don't necessarily have it planned for this one or 444 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,580 any currently, but we're always looking at it as an overall cost to the project. 445 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,660 And then the mechanical systems are, 446 00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:14,880 we have to ask our architect what system it is exactly, 447 00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:18,080 but it is on the roof in a parapet wall. 448 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,180 And so they won't exceed any of that. 449 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,340 Go ahead. 450 00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:23,060 Celeste Hazzi, Be Hills Architecture. 451 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,200 We do have mechanical units. 452 00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:27,480 We have fan-cool units for the residents 453 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,220 that are very small about two-foot by three-foot units. 454 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:34,080 And then we have mechanical for the kitchen. 455 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,600 And so there is a roof well and man-served walls if you, if we had the roof plan available, 456 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:44,800 you would be able to see that there is a walkable well in which we locate as many of the units is possible. 457 00:33:45,740 --> 00:33:47,760 And they're all screened with the roof. 458 00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:52,680 We also cut several sections and views as we work through construction drawings. 459 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:59,220 Once those are placed to ensure they're not viewed for any other residents or any of the actual resident units. 460 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,460 Thank you so much. 461 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:08,280 You have a question, Mr. Grimm? 462 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:09,380 I have one more. 463 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:17,280 So are you a continuing care unit system or are you just doing this as a for-profit? 464 00:34:18,220 --> 00:34:18,620 Excuse me. 465 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,020 You know, a continuing care. 466 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,360 Oh, we're not a CCRC. 467 00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:22,380 CCRC. 468 00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:23,340 You're not. 469 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,960 You're not doing it that often. 470 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,520 We're just living memory and care license through the state through DSS. 471 00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:35,400 So with the prevalence of Alzheimer's and memory issues seeming to start moving down 472 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:42,720 and to younger and younger people is the 55 and age up going to prevent people from that are 473 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:49,420 under 55 that may develop Alzheimer's like illnesses, are they going to be prevented from 474 00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:50,460 going to this facility? 475 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,100 You know, that's interesting. 476 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,260 We had that question a couple months ago. 477 00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:59,680 I would have to look into the state on that too because it is since we are licensed through them. 478 00:34:59,740 --> 00:35:03,260 I mean, we have to abide under all of their obviously laws and regulation. 479 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,840 Do you have a perfect idea? 480 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,920 Thank you, Jerry. Here's operations. 481 00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:11,200 Good evening, commissioner. My name is Terrier of it. I'm the Vice President of Operations for Oakmont. 482 00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:13,900 Management group had been working with them for more than two decades. 483 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,920 So we're regulated by the Department of Social Services. 484 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,500 Within the regulations, they do allow exceptions based on age mechanisms. 485 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:30,840 So 60 is actual the minimum age, and if we have someone who is coming in with Alzheimer's. 486 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:37,280 earlier than that, we can seek an exception for that as long as they're appropriate with 487 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,140 our resident population. 488 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:44,200 Through the Department of Social Services, we handle that exception process. 489 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,900 Thank you very much. 490 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,800 Commissioner Wallace, one more question for you, sir. 491 00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:51,500 So are you guys doing the memory care as well as assisted living? 492 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,280 Yes. 493 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:58,980 So 35 units are dedicated to, oh, 30, yes, that's very separated from the assisted living. 494 00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:00,100 Okay. 495 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:11,520 I think secured setting and specially trained staff and we incorporate some of those technologies we spoke of earlier to enhance the residents that need that care. 496 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:17,980 Any other questions so the applicant from the Commission before we turn it over to public comment. 497 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,620 Mr. Phillips is going to speak. 498 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:37,200 So as I said in the beginning, when we open up to public comment, if you do want to speak, you need to fill out one of these speaker cards. 499 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,880 We'd like you to, once you get up to the podium, 500 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,840 stage your name, your address, and focus your comments 501 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640 on the specific agenda item, and you have three minutes 502 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,220 for that. 503 00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:49,600 So the first one I have in my hand is John Phillips, 504 00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:50,800 so John, 505 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:55,120 okay. 506 00:36:59,290 --> 00:37:01,730 Well, last time I was in here, I touched a nayschool 507 00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:04,770 before this building was sold through the town. 508 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:07,730 My name is John Phillips. 509 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:12,410 I live at 15 Betten Court, resident of Danville for 44 years. 510 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:34,590 And my backyard is running along the fence of this property and, you know, it occurred to me that for two centuries, this property has been a nursery and things change over the years as far as what was acceptable back then, like we found lead in paint, we found out we needed to change that. 511 00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:36,310 Can't use oil-based paint anymore. 512 00:37:36,490 --> 00:37:39,190 It's all going to be water-based, things change with chemistry. 513 00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:45,730 And I thought to myself, with two centuries worth of nursery work being done, that there 514 00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:49,510 is actually a good property to do something like this on. 515 00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:56,110 It's 105-year-old assisted living memory care facility, and I'm concerned about the soil. 516 00:37:57,010 --> 00:38:00,510 It's contamination since it was a nursery. 517 00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:07,150 The applicant's phase one and limited slide investigation found the chemicals are called 518 00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:11,330 deal-drin and chlorine and they're toxic chemicals. 519 00:38:12,910 --> 00:38:16,810 And the levels if they found them on on this property exceeded the state levels. 520 00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:22,730 And when you start moving both thoseers through that property and this stuff gets in the dust 521 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:30,490 and it goes into our backyards and it goes into our HVAC systems and it goes into our skin 522 00:38:30,490 --> 00:38:34,630 And the results from these chemicals is cancer, 523 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,860 and unfortunately neurological issues, which 524 00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:45,940 is kind of, it's kind of blows my mind because this is a memory care place. 525 00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:53,620 Excavation for a three story 39 foot building could release contaminants into the dust, into 526 00:38:53,620 --> 00:39:00,740 the groundwater, and gangering my family, my neighbors, and the memory care residents are 527 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:02,200 proposed to live at this place. 528 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,620 The Ivy's limited investigation only tested storage areas and drainage ditch. 529 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,820 This was not a comprehensive test, and even in those two small places, they found excessive 530 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:16,340 levels. 531 00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:24,800 If they take the test to the next level, what you're supposed to do is they're going to be led, 532 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,500 is they're going to be arsenic, is they're going to be PFAS levels, they haven't even been 533 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:30,620 address yet, 534 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:40,000 sequence section 153, 0.2 prohibits a class 32 exemption if unusual circumstances 535 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,380 suggest environmental impacts. 536 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,420 Somebody's going to be responsible for this, if this neighbor and everybody around, it 537 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,780 comes down with skin diseases and God forbid, I don't want to get into a fatalistic conversation 538 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:53,540 here. 539 00:39:53,780 --> 00:40:00,000 If this is all hypothetical, but somebody's signing off on this, somebody has to sign off 540 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,960 on this. 541 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,160 And my time is up? Is that what I mean? 542 00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:04,680 Yes, John. 543 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:08,000 I just request three things. Can I just 20 seconds? 544 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:14,080 Got it. My first request is that you require a comprehensive phase two ESA across the site, 545 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,660 not specific areas. Secondly, I ask for a release of all the results publicly for community input. 546 00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:23,120 This is affecting a lot of homes. 547 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,640 This is the densely populated residential area. 548 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:35,100 Third, that we mandated detailed mitigation plan for expivation, including dust control. 549 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,880 I'm breathing this stuff as right in my backyard. 550 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,560 So please delay the approval until these steps ensure our safety. 551 00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:44,960 Thanks for your time. 552 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:45,960 Thank you. 553 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,880 I do have a speaker card from Kristen Phillips. 554 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,080 I'm Kristen Phillips on 15th Baton Court, and I am married to John, and I want to 555 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:12,180 follow him about the soil findings because I have a personal health condition that was based 556 00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:19,600 on a question of a training of soil in construction. I was paralyzed with Guillain-Barray and the 557 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,320 first thing the neurologist said when I got into an intensive care is have you been around a 558 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,240 commercial construction zone. 559 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,100 And at that time, we were living by Shannon Park 560 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,240 at a Dublin. 561 00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,300 And I have some real concerns about what 562 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,840 it states on the findings of neurological conditions. 563 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,240 I don't want to be paralyzed again. 564 00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:46,600 I had to learn how to walk all over again and recover. 565 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,320 This is very serious of what not only 566 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,860 could be happening neurologically, but cancer, 567 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:02,360 says skin lesions, so I wanted to come and say, because I think we were someone on a right path, 568 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,480 but when this hits, we have to take it seriously. 569 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:07,800 Thank you. 570 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,040 Thank you, Chris. 571 00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:13,820 I think John summarized three bullet points that we'll address with the applicant or discuss 572 00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:14,540 with the applicant. 573 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,280 The next speaker card I have is, is it Mike Bonin? 574 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:28,240 Thank you. 575 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,240 My name is Michael Bonin. 576 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:34,240 I live on 26 Bobby Corp, so not in that view, but one neighborhood over. 577 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:36,820 I just have a couple of comments, a couple of questions. 578 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,400 The first is, I guess, several of these comments stem from my own views of the neighborhood. 579 00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:49,900 I enjoyed running and run down Diablo, downtown Danville, come up Lcerro, and end up at Bobby Corp. 580 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,600 And I'm concerned about the traffic. 581 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,060 Diablo Road in El Cero are very busy streets. 582 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,840 And while O&I has made comments about staggering 583 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,840 their employee arrival times, certainly 584 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,860 they're going to be people that are visiting throughout the day. 585 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,580 And I'm just concerned that there's going 586 00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:14,020 to be a potential safety issue on Diablo Road 587 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:19,380 with the additional traffic that is going to result 588 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,660 if this facility is built. 589 00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:24,600 Diablo Road is already a very busy street, 590 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,840 and I'm concerned that the additional traffic may cause 591 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,940 additional safety issues. 592 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:30,640 That's first point. 593 00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,840 Second point is, in a think we've already touched on this, 594 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:35,640 this evening, the three story nature of the building. 595 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:39,280 There aren't any other three story buildings in the vicinity. 596 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,580 I'm very concerned that that's going to become somewhat 597 00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:45,840 of a focal point for us, as we travel around our neighborhood, 598 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,800 and is it really necessary that it 599 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:55,820 three story. There are two additional retirement communities just down the street. They're both 600 00:43:55,820 --> 00:44:01,640 two story units. They seem to fit into the neighborhood much more easily or with much less 601 00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:10,520 visibility than perhaps the three story facility will. The third question is is one of usage. 602 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:16,820 As I mentioned, there are two facilities that are within a quarter mile of the proposed facility 603 00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:23,080 there already is this is living units, spructail, and yep, sunset, and then going the other 604 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,500 direction, there's a full memory care facility is also a Brookdale facility that's 605 00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:33,180 this in operation. If the goal of the town of Danville is to increase housing, and this 606 00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:39,060 facility is, or this site is one where we're going to go after that goal. Should we be looking 607 00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:45,400 at a community for 55 and older, given that we already have three facilities in close proximity 608 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,520 to the proposed. I can tell you my mom is in Brookdale. She entered that facility six months ago. 609 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,280 You had absolutely no problems getting your into that facility. They had plenty of openings. Same was true of sunset. 610 00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:59,960 So if the facilities we have aren't being... 611 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,820 Fully utilized, do we need another one of this type? And then the fourth is an observation, or I guess 612 00:45:07,820 --> 00:45:13,740 a request from our family in particular, we run a date care facility on our property in Danville 613 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:18,000 called the I.V.s. Montessori. And I want to be sure that we're not going to have any problems 614 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:25,280 from O.N.I. given the civil nature of the name classification between our business, which is licensed 615 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,620 by the town of Danville, and the proposed. Thank you very much. 616 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:35,100 The next speaker card I have is Matthew Slattin, 617 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,320 Grin, Slattin Grin. 618 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,020 Yes, I'm Matthew Slattin Grin. 619 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,020 I'm at a resident 45 Betten Court. 620 00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:48,520 I'm going to start with something a little bit 621 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,140 if you haven't touched on too much here. 622 00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:52,500 There was a certain safety risk, which has not been addressed. 623 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:54,860 They have mentioned about the parking, 624 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,520 how they're going to attempt to address it. 625 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,120 Everything I've heard so far will not address it. 626 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:01,640 Betten Court is the most convenient place to park 627 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,320 if you cannot find parking in there. 628 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,000 I have witnessed two ambulances in one fire truck, 629 00:46:07,220 --> 00:46:08,380 get on a vet and court before. 630 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,240 You filled the bottom section of vet and court with cars. 631 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,720 You can no longer get safety vehicles in there. 632 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,940 I have witnessed, not too long ago, there was an ambulance 633 00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:20,840 attempting it through. 634 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:26,580 There was a single PG&E vehicle that was parked there 635 00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:27,260 doing work. 636 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,280 And the ambulance had to sit there honking their horn 637 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,140 for about three or four or five minutes before they could get through. 638 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,560 They took up less space and two cars would have. 639 00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,160 And there are multiple choke points along back in court 640 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,840 that will cause the same issue. 641 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,580 This is a big safety issue, and if it is not addressed, 642 00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:49,740 then this is you have all of aided in creating the safety issue here. 643 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:54,980 There are a number of ordinances that are going to be violated with this. 644 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,460 So the purpose of the multi-family residence district 645 00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:00,640 is to integrate new development in a manner that is visually 646 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,520 eventually compatible with physical characteristics of the starting community. 647 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,160 That is, out of your ordinance, this has three-story building in a bunch of one-story residents. 648 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:13,600 Sorry, three-story business in a bunch of one-story residents, Shoms. 649 00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:17,500 So in ISOR for all, this is not just an insancies. 650 00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:19,480 We'll not be functionally compatible with the surrounding region. 651 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:24,800 You're supposed to minimize the impacts of use of protect residents from the harmful effects of accessive noise, 652 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,740 or we're crowding excessive traffic, insufficient parking and other adverse environmental effects. 653 00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:36,260 This room, this place will prove for privacy, cause excessive traffic, remove our parking, and cause other issues. 654 00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:40,180 And a three story building will shade out all of our gardens. 655 00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:44,140 I know most people at Long Met Wall have gardens, which they will no longer be able to grow. 656 00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:49,880 The landscaping buffer requirement, the applicant proposals will cover about 14 feet of our backyards. 657 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,660 From last but I've heard, and shade out all the yards area, forcing everybody to clean up after their landscaping. 658 00:47:56,660 --> 00:48:02,080 And, again, have problems for gardens, which most of them are all on the fences. 659 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,120 So this should be on the business not to be something they're putting on to us. 660 00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:10,920 This proposed plan needs to be outright denied, there's no way to address all the concerns 661 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,740 given to location, identity other high-dense project, but dangerous school children, pedestrian 662 00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:20,540 cyclists, impact emergency services, and the fact that it violates numerous of your ordinances. 663 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,500 The Australian and traffic public utilities will be too great. 664 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:28,020 And just note in the first couple of speakers, both my parents passed from cancer. 665 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,680 I watched that and I cannot do that again. 666 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:37,220 I can't go through that and if they're putting old chemicals, I've got a lot of experience 667 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:40,880 with pesticides, a lot of old chemicals, a lot of old chemistry. 668 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,500 I can't go through that again, I cannot support this at all. 669 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,460 Thanks very much. 670 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:46,980 Thank you. 671 00:48:47,180 --> 00:48:47,680 Thank you Matthew. 672 00:48:50,290 --> 00:48:51,150 Rudy Spitz. 673 00:48:58,220 --> 00:49:01,700 I'm on my name's Rudy Spitz. 674 00:49:01,780 --> 00:49:04,620 I live at 33 Betten Court. 675 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:11,240 I recently renovated my whole place 676 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:17,480 and put a pool right by the proposed development kitty corner. 677 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,400 Well, first of all, I'd like to say that my wife has suffered 678 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:33,760 with asthma or entire life, and any type of airborne, you know, carcinogens or whatever, 679 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:40,820 it's very concerning to me. So this is something I just learned and I agree with what 680 00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:58,680 John brought up another thing as I on the west side of the building the developers said that he 681 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:07,160 would make that balcony just for looks only and I can't tell for sure if that's the case 682 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:16,160 because it looks directly down on my swimming pool and back yard and that's probably a question 683 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:27,060 for the developer whether they actually made that for looks only and not an actual balcony. 684 00:50:27,060 --> 00:50:38,100 me. And that's about it. So do I do I ask that question to the developer? No, we took 685 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,800 it down and the developer, the architect addressed it a little bit. You may not over 686 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:51,500 them. Okay, because we questioned it on the west side. Okay, it is for looks only. Okay, 687 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:55,240 So I can feel confident in my pool. 688 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:56,480 All right. 689 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,820 We will reconfirm that though with them. 690 00:50:58,940 --> 00:50:59,400 When they come back. 691 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,500 All right. Thank you. 692 00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:01,620 Thank you, Rudy. 693 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,540 Gary Parsons. 694 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,700 Good evening. 695 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,860 My name is Gary Parsons. 696 00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:19,300 My brother is Stephen I own the property that we're talking about today. 697 00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,660 We purchased the property in 1994. 698 00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:28,400 We operated that nursery from 1994 till May of 1999. 699 00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:38,860 When this property was resumed, we were approached by 10 different builders with offers on this property almost overnight. 700 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,120 I mean it was overwhelmed. 701 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:45,700 We spent about six months going through with each of these builders. 702 00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:53,120 Most all of them were high density, stack and pack apartments or condos that we're going to go on that property. 703 00:51:53,820 --> 00:52:00,600 We ended up selecting Oakmont because we did a lot of research on them. 704 00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:09,060 They operate quality facilities in looking at research on the community between Rutlinger, 705 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:15,820 Diablo Lodge and Sunrise, the occupancy rate at that time was 92%, which is essentially 706 00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:16,760 100%. 707 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,380 You can never get 100% on places like that. 708 00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:30,220 So, there is a need for elder care in this community, and particularly with the price of houses the way they are, a lot of older people are only older people can afford this. 709 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,760 Not only was it evaluating Oakmont, but also I grew up in this community. 710 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,660 I was born here in 1958. My family's been here since 55. 711 00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:44,520 back my mom helped form this town in 1982, getting it incorporated. 712 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:51,120 But the other three factors we looked at also in selecting no command was traffic. 713 00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:59,460 These 80-plus-year-old people don't drive, 99% of them don't drive, so there's not going to be a lot of traffic. 714 00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:05,180 When we operated the nursery, we did 1,200 Christmas trees a year, we delivered 400 Christmas trees 715 00:53:05,180 --> 00:53:08,240 between Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day. 716 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:38,220 Topsoil. We talked about dust. That sites had a topsoil yard on it forever. There's trucks coming in and out delivering soil and rock materials and going out continuously every day. We got complaints by the neighbors. We for years about dust and tried to do our best to mitigate that. So that's not something new necessarily. I would also argue traffic from this isn't going to be something new. Because we have traffic today with consumers coming into bulk. 717 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:44,660 product from that nursery. And then the other effect we looked at on select, you know, 718 00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:48,800 Vermont was the effect on schools. And we thought, you know, we're hearing a lot about 719 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,060 our schools being overwhelmed to many students, 30 students per class and all, this is 720 00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:57,960 going to have no impact on the schools at all because school kids aren't going to be in 721 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:04,380 this unit. And then thirdly we looked at mitigation of our water supply with the drought 722 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:09,260 and all the water problems you've had, this is actually going to use a lot less water than 723 00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:11,040 what that nursery does today. 724 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,180 So I just wanted to say there's, and this, I guess, my time's up. 725 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,460 But anyway, thank you for listening to me, and I know the history of this property since 1941 726 00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:30,140 with the Pararas and Lowery-Vonk and Shirley-Vonk and Doug and Joanne Day and my brother 727 00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:36,760 So if anyone needs any historical perspective or anything, I'm happy to provide information. Thank you. 728 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,140 Thank you. 729 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:43,360 Okay, the last speaker card that I have is Craig Andrews. 730 00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:23,110 I don't know, eight thousand units a year in the area. 731 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:28,100 That means there 732 00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:35,220 should be six single kind of long-term, five-and-crossed street, 733 00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:36,660 of other court, 734 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:44,880 but then having 35 windows in my backyard, 35 D-P-I, and me being here 735 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:54,140 and just being my house at 7-7-1-3-5, or 7-8-4. I would want to tell myself, there's no quality 736 00:55:54,140 --> 00:56:00,140 like me, I don't know. It's a sham. Always the state is the state, it's the state. That's what 737 00:56:00,140 --> 00:56:04,860 Riley says. She winds it all on the state and then just do everything because the state, they 738 00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:11,940 choice. That's what David says too. That's the morals and save the damn trees. 739 00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:14,510 Don't give 740 00:56:14,510 --> 00:56:15,370 more high 741 00:56:17,610 --> 00:56:19,550 faith in it. We're just going to save the 742 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,500 boat. And since he lost 743 00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:29,540 pompous, we're going to see him up, up, 744 00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:35,480 down. Low voltage lighting. 745 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:37,940 How do you 746 00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:42,720 talk to the windows, no one off? That's kind of keeping down. Keep a language to this. 747 00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:47,480 I think though. I appreciate what you think. And you have your three minutes to finish 748 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,120 That's what you think. 749 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:48,360 No, 750 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,960 I get down to one or seven, eight, four, Lou. 751 00:56:56,780 --> 00:57:01,480 But my dad who would be here would be embarrassed by this. 752 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,120 God bless this soul. 753 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,560 He was an environmental engineer, and had two thousand employees 754 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,640 and brought his company public on the NASDAQ. 755 00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:17,180 My dad rang the bell, and my parents met bought all two thousand employees. 756 00:57:17,540 --> 00:57:21,000 My dad decided to build every land going to stay in California 757 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,900 Is this relating to the topic on the agenda? 758 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,080 If I have to say, we should have a full and fire metal 759 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,320 eat dust, 760 00:57:53,260 --> 00:57:54,980 a million alerts going on. 761 00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:57,140 Why did we get this developer more? 762 00:57:57,340 --> 00:58:03,520 Then we don't know if we're going to have a condition that he can't resell these units. 763 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,200 If we're going to give him all these benefits, then one would be say, 764 00:58:09,620 --> 00:58:12,460 why can he just turn on the Cardio's 10 years from now? 765 00:58:12,460 --> 00:58:15,900 That's what every developer is doing in every other city. 766 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,820 Looking up, then they talk about old marks so reputable. 767 00:58:20,260 --> 00:58:22,540 They're getting sued at 90 facilities. 768 00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:28,400 Every single one they operate on in California has an active lawsuit. 769 00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:32,120 That's not responsible business. 770 00:58:35,790 --> 00:58:39,870 Okay Craig, your first three minutes is up for seven, eight, four, 771 00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:41,450 to rainy drive. 772 00:58:41,450 --> 00:58:46,150 So, and we're, excuse me, and respect to the commission, could you re-introduce yourself? 773 00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:51,590 My name is state entries on it's 784k. I have another concern. 774 00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:54,510 Well, this one's for 771, to read the draft. 775 00:58:55,090 --> 00:58:57,330 Yeah, we just finished 784. I have two up to a lot. 776 00:58:57,390 --> 00:59:02,850 Yeah, we just finished 784. So, let's hear your comments on how it affects you. 777 00:59:03,570 --> 00:59:07,150 I'm a traffic. I say they have a traffic state. Who did the traffic study? 778 00:59:07,450 --> 00:59:09,710 Was it a meal available in public numbers? 779 00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:11,890 I think it's in the package, you do the traffic stuff. 780 00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:13,490 It's in the package, okay? 781 00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:14,070 It's online. 782 00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:14,890 It's online. 783 00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:22,970 Our town says that we're going to let people know about a project that might affect them within 300 feet. 784 00:59:23,310 --> 00:59:23,570 You know what? 785 00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:27,010 My lunch, 185 feet wide. 786 00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:27,650 Okay? 787 00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:30,550 My next lunch, 150 feet wide. 788 00:59:30,830 --> 00:59:33,990 You know how many people get notified when they don't know about five people, 789 00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:37,670 which is 300 feet on the initial response for us. 790 00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:43,890 to say this is a good idea, change it, from six single family homes, none of my neighbors came, 791 00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:51,750 none of us. We are grateful for here again because they don't think that people that are 792 00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:54,010 I'll be very happy. 793 00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:58,790 How do I know that the traffic there already is a short time. 794 00:59:59,050 --> 00:59:59,970 See Google Earth thing. 795 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,640 State, if you're going to one point, you come down to Lini Frye, used to be closed. Every single home 796 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,260 now I'm going to get asked by every single buddy that wants to go to Mr. Bondi, who's going to come down 797 01:00:12,260 --> 01:00:18,160 to? Now, several, who's going to take the right on to Lini because it's going to be backed up all 798 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:27,300 the way to the White. After they say a 105 new people come in and out that have visitors every day 799 01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:32,660 workers don't present ours. Or they think these people come there and they have no 800 01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:33,660 way to come to visit. 801 01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:39,240 This is a very bizarre parking spot, sir. How many 802 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:48,320 workings are there? There's 60 total. 60. How many residents are there? 803 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:56,900 There's 105 units and there was an objective traffic study completed that takes into effect. 804 01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:03,680 the use of the facility, the people that would be there, the services that are going to be performed in that facility. 805 01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:10,420 So I would ask that if you have those concerns, you can get online and take a look at the traffic study that is available. 806 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,060 And we don't think that's going 807 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,760 to be done. Why would we learn how 808 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:26,780 would we give them more? 809 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,820 If we're just going to say everything's okay. 810 01:01:29,180 --> 01:01:34,220 How do we know that these air conditioning units aren't higher than the maximum that we're sending today? 811 01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:37,440 Is that okay if everything units are higher than the before? 812 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,940 I think the architect addressed it that they're in mechanical wells. 813 01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:50,420 There's drawings, there's renderings, 814 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:59,440 There's documentation that supports the design. You built all those homes. You know how you built all those because the state up the 815 01:02:04,790 --> 01:02:09,820 Thank you 816 01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:10,760 Appreciate your comments. 817 01:02:16,930 --> 01:02:21,810 All right, we have any other street cards Amanda. Oh, excuse me. We have one more. 818 01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:24,680 John Shilly 819 01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:39,690 John Schiller, I'm at Buckeye, so I'm across the way off of Willamir. 820 01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:48,440 I'm very passionate, but I'm not going to be as passionate as the previous film. 821 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:50,080 I appreciate it. 822 01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:52,580 I agree with everything he said, absolutely. 823 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,340 And the Phil's family as well. 824 01:02:55,180 --> 01:02:56,240 Thank you guys, too. 825 01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:59,520 I moved my family here in about 10 years ago. 826 01:03:00,340 --> 01:03:03,940 In my line of work, when things are broken, we just say it's broken. 827 01:03:03,940 --> 01:03:08,080 The Abla road is broken. The traffic is broken. I can't even get out of the wheel and me 828 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,740 in the morning. 829 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:16,460 The other thing is, there's not just one school down the street. There's more 830 01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:23,640 schools. I see E-Bike's going by on the Abla like ripping down kids going to him on a 831 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:29,620 vista with Sarah's Green Valley, Mr. Grande, he's two pre-schools there as well. If you look 832 01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:36,240 on the right there, there's a merge right there where the entrance in the exit is, I see almost 833 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:43,480 accidents happen while walking my dog. Do any of the people here live in this area? Can you 834 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:50,620 get it raise your hand? I mean, a traffic, something of a traffic stress should be someone that lives 835 01:03:50,620 --> 01:03:56,620 through what I live through trying to go out of my, out of the area. If you get off the road at Diablo, 836 01:03:57,140 --> 01:04:02,940 There's two lanes that merge in the one, emergency vehicles, I don't know how that's going to work. 837 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:06,440 Peace myself here. 838 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,800 My mom lives to live in Wall and Creek, and they actually put a church right in the middle of a residential area. 839 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:28,980 The light pollution, the environmental impact on my mom's area, the blue archway over I Rossmore, was unbelievable. 840 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:30,960 And I think that's what's going to happen here. 841 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,780 If you look at the map where has everyone's own, 842 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,100 it has one zoning right there, why? 843 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,020 Why do we have to have that one area's own? 844 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,460 That affects so many of the R-15s. 845 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,360 I believe that was the zoning for the rest of the presidents. 846 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,740 This is R-35, right? 847 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,100 Is that how I look at that? 848 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,600 I just don't think it belongs. 849 01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:49,640 And I agree. 850 01:04:50,180 --> 01:04:51,660 Like, why not do a Tyler Court? 851 01:04:51,940 --> 01:04:56,040 I know you guys are looking for like state mandates and all this stuff. 852 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,600 I can't just be somewhere else. 853 01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:00,180 I can't even just keep our houses the way it is. 854 01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:02,360 I think people are going to move out. 855 01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:05,000 And I know that means more taxes for someone 856 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,260 that buys a upgrades or a house or whatever, 857 01:05:08,140 --> 01:05:09,360 but I just don't feel so right answer. 858 01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:11,740 And I love living here. 859 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,680 I love raising my family here. 860 01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:16,480 I love game, I Christmas trees, that's loads. 861 01:05:18,490 --> 01:05:19,550 Anyways, those are my comments. 862 01:05:19,870 --> 01:05:20,130 Thank you. 863 01:05:20,490 --> 01:05:21,010 Thank you, John. 864 01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:26,760 Amanda, any other scoop of cards? 865 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:27,780 OK. 866 01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:27,940 Okay. 867 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,840 That's going to close the public comment session. 868 01:05:30,980 --> 01:05:36,120 I want to thank you all for bringing your thoughts forward to the commission and I'm going 869 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:42,160 to bring it back to commission and excuse me, and bring the applicant back up. 870 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,360 Carissa? 871 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,840 It is Carissa, correct? 872 01:05:53,960 --> 01:06:00,600 So we obviously had a number of questions that were posed and I've asked some of the commission 873 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,880 to take some notes along along the way. 874 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:03,460 Excuse me. 875 01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:04,660 David, it's gone. 876 01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:07,300 Start over to you. 877 01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:10,520 I just want to take notes for myself, but all of them. 878 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,040 We've got that. 879 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:11,500 It's OK. 880 01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:12,700 We can hit it. 881 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,220 All right. 882 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,360 So the first question is about the soils contamination 883 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,920 and the phase 1 on the limited study 884 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,840 and what comes next and how do we assure 885 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,380 that that's not going to be health issue? 886 01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:28,860 So I just quickly pulled up the phase 1. 887 01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:30,200 We did a full phase 1. 888 01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:32,980 There's a lot of obviously history on this site too. 889 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,060 All of this is documented. 890 01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,620 I do believe it's also a public information too. 891 01:06:38,800 --> 01:07:07,260 But yeah, we sampled 26 soil samples the first time we mobilized another 26 the second time led has been tested, arsenic has been tested, I want to review this, you know, a little further right now because this was a while ago and we did this but we've taken into consideration all of their recommendations after they did the environmental phase one, the recommendation was to do a limited site investigation which we did. 892 01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:12,020 And so the recommendations that we're following is exactly what it said in the report, 893 01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:17,040 which would be to excavate it, get your permits, do it the correct way, and you, 894 01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:20,040 you, I mean, there's several things we have to do. We get rid of that soil. 895 01:07:22,570 --> 01:07:28,450 Yeah, go for it. Sure. So do you. Yeah, Colin Bagwell, VP of Acquisitions for O and I development. 896 01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:36,370 So Terecon tested 26 soil samples from 13 soil drawings for TPH, 897 01:07:36,370 --> 01:07:40,110 which VOCs, OCP, these led in arsenic. 898 01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:45,570 And the only item that was required for further testing 899 01:07:46,770 --> 01:07:49,470 was I'm going to put your name of it. 900 01:07:49,650 --> 01:07:52,890 Delg, Delg, Delg, Delg, is that right? 901 01:07:53,810 --> 01:07:56,490 But the recommendation there was for an exhibition 902 01:07:56,490 --> 01:07:59,070 in a mobile, which we will work with building 903 01:07:59,070 --> 01:08:01,830 permit process to move that in the way 904 01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:03,490 that's appropriate at that time. 905 01:08:03,590 --> 01:08:04,350 Yeah, closer to the mic. 906 01:08:04,410 --> 01:08:04,650 Sure. 907 01:08:04,650 --> 01:08:15,490 So that's I mean what constitutes a phase 2 assessment what what constitutes the next step to require a phase 2 environmental assessment report 908 01:08:15,490 --> 01:08:24,730 The environmental consultant will review everything that's previously been done there have been phase 2s that have been done for this site 909 01:08:24,730 --> 01:08:32,190 That's a phase one report. They're having say that again. There have been phase 2 phase ones and phase 2s have previously been completed on the site 910 01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:39,470 There was I believe an oil tank that was subsurface that was opened and then closed second that information was in in the packet 911 01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:41,510 It's in the summary of the phase one 912 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:47,030 Why read the taric on report it said there was the phase one and then you did the 913 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:52,290 additional samples of the 26-boring thing you did in the other 26-borings, right and then 914 01:08:53,310 --> 01:08:55,270 What am I missing what did it say then? 915 01:08:57,550 --> 01:08:58,490 Oh, I didn't go online 916 01:09:01,030 --> 01:09:09,730 So I'm looking at what I saw in this packet then so all right so there was a limited phase 2 is what you're saying then previously done 917 01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:13,650 So as part due diligence Gary gave us everything that had been 918 01:09:13,650 --> 01:09:15,650 Okay previously for the site correct 919 01:09:15,650 --> 01:09:19,790 And then additional testing was completed for the items that I that I just mentioned 920 01:09:19,790 --> 01:09:28,470 And then the recommendation for the phase 1 was to do further testing for the D chemical which I'm not going to try to pronounce in the requirement there was 921 01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:30,010 that we excavated in the movie. 922 01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:31,910 Can I just provide a little further? 923 01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:32,230 Sure. 924 01:09:32,530 --> 01:09:33,810 I'm Gary back again. 925 01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:38,730 I think it was circa 1997 when we discovered 926 01:09:38,730 --> 01:09:39,970 at the top soliard. 927 01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:42,790 There was an old diesel tank that had been underground, 928 01:09:43,210 --> 01:09:44,930 that had been abandoned long ago. 929 01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:49,650 So we hired an engineering environmental engineering company. 930 01:09:49,650 --> 01:09:52,270 I believe it was streamborn if I remember right on that one. 931 01:09:52,710 --> 01:09:54,190 They came in, they did boring, 932 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:55,990 they detected where the limits were, 933 01:09:56,190 --> 01:09:57,710 where some diesel fuel had leaked. 934 01:09:57,710 --> 01:10:07,250 They excavated the entire site, the materials were taking to coal-linga for incineration, that's what they do with the contaminated soil in this area. 935 01:10:07,850 --> 01:10:19,170 There was also another incident back in the top soil yard that we discovered, and that was also excavated, and soil was removed and taken to coal-linga. 936 01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:21,270 So yeah, the site's been there a long time. 937 01:10:21,390 --> 01:10:22,930 I admit that, it's been used. 938 01:10:23,530 --> 01:10:25,990 But some areas of it are, quote, newer than others. 939 01:10:26,170 --> 01:10:28,830 It just hasn't been neglected all along. 940 01:10:29,690 --> 01:10:29,890 Thank you. 941 01:10:30,190 --> 01:10:32,050 Thank you. 942 01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:35,450 Just as another point kind of going on the soil condition. 943 01:10:36,030 --> 01:10:38,010 What we're talking about is what's in situ. 944 01:10:38,090 --> 01:10:38,770 What's there? 945 01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:39,750 What we know about. 946 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:42,870 But before there will be any disruption or removal of that soil, 947 01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:46,810 there will be a licensed contractor brought on familiar with hazardous waste 948 01:10:46,810 --> 01:10:48,850 removal of that's what the situation is. 949 01:10:48,850 --> 01:10:54,670 there'll be best management practices put in place which include dust control that minimizes any 950 01:10:54,670 --> 01:11:00,070 mitigation or migration of any dust in the area. So there's going to be protocols put in place. 951 01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:05,930 This is not just go out and go at it. That is all. That's exactly what helps. What 952 01:11:05,930 --> 01:11:10,730 will happen. It's exactly how we have to do it every time. There's any contaminated soils. 953 01:11:14,010 --> 01:11:19,790 Do you understand? So, but this is all going to be handled not by the town but by 954 01:11:19,790 --> 01:11:22,010 across the county, environmental health, and planning. 955 01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:25,150 So, it goes to the county. 956 01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:28,530 It's got the overall responsibility and this to check it off and be sure that they're 957 01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:28,950 doing it. 958 01:11:29,230 --> 01:11:29,550 Correct. 959 01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:31,710 They have to go through the coordinating process to the county. 960 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:35,770 The town doesn't have the expertise to monitor and to do these things correctly. 961 01:11:36,110 --> 01:11:36,710 So they have to go through. 962 01:11:36,710 --> 01:11:39,010 So they're going to bring the people in to keep on top of that. 963 01:11:39,010 --> 01:11:41,430 Do that type of mitigation. 964 01:11:41,770 --> 01:11:42,870 And argue, don't. 965 01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:43,390 Go ahead. 966 01:11:44,090 --> 01:11:44,490 Yeah. 967 01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:48,710 The agency, or the department for the county, that does that type of mitigation 968 01:11:48,710 --> 01:11:51,750 and that type of work on regular basis. 969 01:11:52,570 --> 01:11:55,490 And you're going with Caracon for continuing 970 01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:58,910 for all the recommendations that we're in the report. 971 01:11:59,150 --> 01:12:01,050 OK, thank you. 972 01:12:01,370 --> 01:12:03,170 So David, either you or we can take it. 973 01:12:03,210 --> 01:12:05,510 I think the next was traffic issues. 974 01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:08,490 And particularly the level of service 975 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,530 at the driveway going on to Diablo Road 976 01:12:12,530 --> 01:12:15,090 and what the traffic study indicated 977 01:12:15,090 --> 01:12:19,570 if we could kind of discuss that a little bit? 978 01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:20,570 Yes, absolutely. 979 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:22,170 We're going to bring our traffic into here. 980 01:12:22,730 --> 01:12:23,470 Thank you. 981 01:12:26,540 --> 01:12:27,120 Hello, Council. 982 01:12:27,220 --> 01:12:29,680 My name is Alex Garber, and I'm with EPD Solutions, 983 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:31,780 who prepared the traffic study. 984 01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:37,900 And the driveway that in discussion 985 01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:41,280 does allow for left turns and right turns, 986 01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:46,740 and we analyzed the LOS to look at the delay that would be experienced. 987 01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:54,000 of all of the directions, none of them are out of failing LOS, which in this city's LOS 988 01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:02,160 E, except for the left turn out of the site, since it is a stop sign. The level of service 989 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:10,400 is a stricter threshold, so we're talking about 37 seconds at the worst case scenario for vehicles 990 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:17,420 be able to turn left which while technically a failure is on site so it's not going to be impacting 991 01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:23,580 any of the through traffic or impacting offsite vehicles it will just be the residents leaving 992 01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:32,420 the or the workers or visitors leaving the site and 37 seconds is would be considered an 993 01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:35,920 acceptable LOS at a signal that would be off-site. 994 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,680 So it was deemed to not be an issue for that, 995 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,820 as well as the existing site has a similar delay. 996 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,420 That is less than a five second difference, 997 01:13:49,940 --> 01:13:52,300 and the threshold adopted by the city is, 998 01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:54,900 if there is a five second increase 999 01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:56,540 for an already failing intersection, 1000 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,200 then it is the project's duty to reduce it 1001 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:07,220 to existing this project given the minimum amount of net trips is not increasing 1002 01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:11,380 at five seconds. It's much less. So it's going to be very similar to what's there today. 1003 01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:16,540 Thank you. And all that information is readily available on the traffic study that 1004 01:14:16,540 --> 01:14:18,940 is completed in April, correct? That is correct. 1005 01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:31,180 Mr. Graham, when was the traffic study done? When I went through it, I didn't 1006 01:14:31,180 --> 01:14:32,640 if you did your traffic counts? 1007 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:33,580 That is correct. 1008 01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:34,380 Okay. 1009 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:34,960 Of 2024. 1010 01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:43,400 Any other traffic really? 1011 01:14:43,820 --> 01:14:48,420 Oh, would you also have dealt with, I know you had to deal with the fire department in 1012 01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:54,480 regard to service for the ID itself probably right or the developer did in regard to the 1013 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:59,960 able to access that. One of the speakers brought up concerns about 1014 01:15:01,340 --> 01:15:11,260 You know, traffic in the residential areas, it seems like you have an excess of parking in there that would help mitigate any problem with parking in the neighborhoods. 1015 01:15:11,820 --> 01:15:20,700 That is correct. So the city has a parking standard that we looked at, which would require 37 spaces to accommodate this use. 1016 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:29,900 We also used ITE, which is a standard used by traffic engineers all across the country. 1017 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:45,200 And that had a slightly higher recommended amount of parking, which was 44, the project that's being proposed to you is providing 60, which is above both of those and would provide plenty of parking for this type of land use. 1018 01:15:47,090 --> 01:15:56,870 I would add that we felt very strongly that we needed to have 60 spaces based on our experience with operating other communities. 1019 01:15:57,170 --> 01:15:58,690 That's why we have access. 1020 01:15:58,970 --> 01:16:01,410 Are any of those dedicated visitor parking? 1021 01:16:03,070 --> 01:16:03,630 Yes. 1022 01:16:04,030 --> 01:16:06,230 We have visitor parking, but it's not dedicated. 1023 01:16:06,650 --> 01:16:10,010 But you're not going to say, see, okay, so it's not dedicated visitor parking. 1024 01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:10,950 Okay. 1025 01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:20,010 Any other traffic-related questions that were presented or David that we missed? 1026 01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:21,650 You hear notes? 1027 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:24,690 Yes, good. 1028 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:33,280 24. 1029 01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:39,840 Yeah, that was back to the office push. 1030 01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:41,880 You don't have Mr. Ago. 1031 01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,140 These results look rather low to me for today's business to be honest, but I think it's 1032 01:17:00,140 --> 01:17:03,440 because October 30th, or October is when this was done. 1033 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:10,660 If you were to do this survey in March or April at that nursery today, and even may, 1034 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,840 with the weather we've had, you would see much higher traffic counts than this coming in 1035 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,880 and out of that nursery while you're running the soil and the planting season, you know, 1036 01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:23,500 during the spring with people buying vegetables and everything else. 1037 01:17:23,780 --> 01:17:26,940 So I think this is more than safe on the safe side. 1038 01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:28,320 Thank you, Gary. 1039 01:17:32,130 --> 01:17:32,210 Yes. 1040 01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:33,150 Just to take into consideration 1041 01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:40,660 the service trucks, the garbage trucks that come 1042 01:17:40,660 --> 01:17:46,060 during any different types of garbage trucks, there's going to be transportation vehicles coming through 1043 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,740 and we can move on the ground. 1044 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:58,100 We hear car accidents at this corner every other week, and it's all really dangerous. 1045 01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:03,360 And if you are already getting some back to work in your office, so, you know, we can 1046 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,960 time stand a lot of these studies and work the way that we are on work. 1047 01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:10,600 We're going to just tell them, it's going to be. 1048 01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,800 I appreciate we appreciate your input, John, and the one thing that we have to count on is an 1049 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,320 objective study traffic study, which was completed. 1050 01:18:19,580 --> 01:18:24,640 And, you know, even little things like getting rid of that one exit that's, you know, 1051 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,880 north. So you got one list exit there. May help some situations too. Okay. Thank you. 1052 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,540 And I was just going to ask you to we did get sign off from the fire district too. They've reviewed 1053 01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:40,240 the plan once we flipped the building. Right. They that's so. You need to provide them adequate 1054 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:46,300 access to get all right. Thank you. One architectural item that we had Ruby Spits brought up in regard 1055 01:18:46,300 --> 01:18:51,900 to the balconies. I think both you and Riley address that on the south elevation. Correct. 1056 01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:54,160 They're no longer occupiable balconies. 1057 01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:55,020 Fair off that. 1058 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,460 And you'll see that in the first bill. 1059 01:18:57,180 --> 01:18:58,920 But the question was that he's a person. 1060 01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:00,600 Oh, I'm sorry. 1061 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:00,900 I'm sorry. 1062 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,520 Oh, we've never talked about the West side. 1063 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,620 So did we do the West side? 1064 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:04,900 Do we do the West side? 1065 01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:05,780 Do we do the West side? 1066 01:19:05,780 --> 01:19:06,840 I was on top. 1067 01:19:07,060 --> 01:19:07,440 I was on top. 1068 01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:09,840 It was the South side, along the... 1069 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,380 OK. 1070 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:10,840 OK. 1071 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,520 Well, perfect. 1072 01:19:12,820 --> 01:19:13,560 It was the South side. 1073 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,340 Oh, I had the South side. 1074 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:14,740 Yes. 1075 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,040 We're considering rare to be the West side. 1076 01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:19,100 I knew it was the South side. 1077 01:19:20,220 --> 01:19:26,420 Chris, it wasn't at that DRB, so we talked about the west corner that could also potentially 1078 01:19:26,420 --> 01:19:32,780 look into his property being converted from an operational ballot, balcony into a Juliet, 1079 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,640 which is on the map. 1080 01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:35,520 That's okay with that change. 1081 01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:36,960 Yes, that was discussed. 1082 01:19:37,580 --> 01:19:37,720 Yes. 1083 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,660 I'm sure it's in the record. 1084 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,280 That will be our fault, then. 1085 01:19:44,730 --> 01:19:50,570 There were a number of other passionate concerns and presentations presented regarding 1086 01:19:50,570 --> 01:19:58,090 the development itself versus other options for that space, but I think as David and 1087 01:19:58,090 --> 01:20:05,250 staff had presented everything in regard to this development, checks the box as to the regulations 1088 01:20:05,250 --> 01:20:14,070 and laws, and you've come to the DRB multiple times, worked with the community, I know, 1089 01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:15,970 and we're going to their specific concerns. 1090 01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:21,450 And, you know, it's appreciated by the town 1091 01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:23,190 and by the planning commission. 1092 01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:25,910 I tried to summarize. 1093 01:20:26,370 --> 01:20:26,810 What's 1094 01:20:40,570 --> 01:20:41,150 your name, Wolfie? 1095 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,940 Two more things I had written down. 1096 01:20:54,940 --> 01:20:56,100 All right, thank you. 1097 01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,820 The one item was with respect to parking on vet and court, 1098 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,140 which I don't know if we address that. 1099 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:03,820 I know we've talked about today with law. 1100 01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:04,700 Well, that's convenient. 1101 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,060 Good. 1102 01:21:05,660 --> 01:21:08,400 But we have a part, I mean, we're overparked on our site, 1103 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:14,300 And we also have a parking plan, which we will implement with our employees, which I think 1104 01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:17,700 are probably the biggest ones that people would be concerned about. 1105 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:23,060 But if there's any issues, obviously, you can call us or, you know, a police department 1106 01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:27,760 if you have a long-standing issues with people parking on the street that are supposed to. 1107 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:28,800 And we'll take care of that. 1108 01:21:28,820 --> 01:21:33,860 And then somebody else mentioned, who talked about a lot of these, but light pollution. 1109 01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:34,460 Yes. 1110 01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:40,480 So we have dark sky compliant fixtures that have been reviewed by the city. 1111 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,540 I think those are the only two that I have written down. 1112 01:21:43,820 --> 01:21:45,260 Thank you. 1113 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,000 Commissioners, any other questions? 1114 01:21:50,290 --> 01:21:51,150 Excuse me? 1115 01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:53,910 David, did you have something that we missed? 1116 01:21:54,210 --> 01:21:54,710 We have to. 1117 01:21:54,990 --> 01:21:57,530 After an African three-buttle, I have a few more. 1118 01:21:58,190 --> 01:22:02,350 No, I didn't have anything additional that they had missed. 1119 01:22:02,910 --> 01:22:03,610 But I have. 1120 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:15,900 What should give me one of these speaker cards earlier, but I'm going to give you your, you say, go ahead, go for it. 1121 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,540 Could you explain fan coils versus the rooftop units? 1122 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,160 Yes, plus Hazi Bihil's architecture. 1123 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,300 So actually those fan coil units only have a decibel level of 54 decibels, 1124 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,720 which is the equivalent of a normal conversation or light rainfall. 1125 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,400 And they're all on the roof, and they're all projecting up as opposed to down. 1126 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,180 So there shouldn't be any noise pollution from those. 1127 01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:51,740 504? 1128 01:22:57,150 --> 01:22:57,590 Yes. 1129 01:22:58,630 --> 01:23:01,570 This is the last one. Mr. Andrews, you are. 1130 01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:02,410 He's going. Go. 1131 01:23:02,850 --> 01:23:05,600 I know. I know. I know. 1132 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:06,540 The humans are showing. 1133 01:23:28,180 --> 01:23:29,560 That's your last year. 1134 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:35,300 That's Caduceville, Lister. 1135 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,920 So based on coordination with the city, 1136 01:23:59,620 --> 01:24:04,680 we took both AM, midday, and PM peak hour counts. 1137 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:12,600 And it is over a time frame that accommodates not just one hour that we pick randomly. 1138 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:19,760 It accommodates from noon to three to find what the peak point of that hour is. 1139 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:29,020 So if they get off a little bit earlier at 1230 or 1230 it would have been accounted for in the counts and that would have been the peak hour that we used for our analysis. 1140 01:24:29,020 --> 01:24:38,580 and we use the peak 15 minutes within that hour to do a worst case scenario analysis during 1141 01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:44,200 that period. So that was accounted for in this analysis. 1142 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:49,740 Okay, well, obviously you hear the concerns and it's your professional responsibility 1143 01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:54,160 to ensure that those concerns are considered in the traffic study. 1144 01:24:54,160 --> 01:25:02,180 Absolutely. So thank you. And for the Halloween, we have, there are different holidays that 1145 01:25:02,180 --> 01:25:07,360 throughout the year that are accounted for to make sure that we are getting accurate counts 1146 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,320 and not doing it on a holiday. Like this week, there are no traffic counts being taken because 1147 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:16,940 it's Memorial Day weekend and a lot of people take vacations. Halloween is not one of those that 1148 01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:22,980 have been seen in studies over the years. So that week would still be considered a viable, 1149 01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:27,980 normal traffic week. Okay. And I should want to address that. So the applicant, thank you very much. 1150 01:25:29,440 --> 01:25:33,020 You can wrap it up. We'll take it back to the commission here. Thank you. 1151 01:25:34,420 --> 01:25:37,140 David, did you say you had something before we bring it back to the commission? 1152 01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:45,920 You said a couple more comments. You know, are you guys comfortable with the discussion regarding the hazardous 1153 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:52,180 materials and the process that that would have to go through to remove the, you know, the, 1154 01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:56,940 the hazardous materials on the site needs to be removed in one way shape or form. 1155 01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:02,240 It's better for a long term of the neighborhood and the, you know, the water. 1156 01:26:04,620 --> 01:26:10,380 And again, the professionals at the county level, that's what they do. 1157 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,940 There's a process to go through a permitting process and an inspection process. 1158 01:26:14,500 --> 01:26:18,580 And so that'll all be taken care of through their protocols. 1159 01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:24,980 There's a question about why three stories here, we have two stories over on, you know, 1160 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,100 the Diablo Lodge and the Sunrise across the way there and others. 1161 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,940 We never prior to this housing element, we'd never had a standard higher than two stories, 1162 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,920 the 35 feet in Danville anywhere. 1163 01:26:39,740 --> 01:26:42,220 And that was pre-Dandle. 1164 01:26:43,260 --> 01:27:00,140 That's one of the reasons we incorporated it, but in order to get our, when we first submitted our housing elements of the state, they rejected it, for a number of reasons, one being that our development standards were too restrictive, and they required that we loosen our redevelopment standards. 1165 01:27:00,440 --> 01:27:07,220 And so for the new sites that we developed, we had to raise those two allow for three stories, we still kept them at 35 feet. 1166 01:27:07,220 --> 01:27:12,320 So even two stories were limited to could go up to 35 feet. 1167 01:27:12,740 --> 01:27:21,060 So we're talking about, well, three stories we're talking about, a building that at its highest point is a few feet higher than the 35 feet that could have always occurred there. 1168 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:26,100 But really, I know we're pointing our fingers at the state, but this was a concession we made to the state. 1169 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:33,980 You know, we have a couple of housing sites, maybe familiar with the Darby Plaza right there at the On Ramp of Bel Cerro and 680. 1170 01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:37,700 You know, they use their density bonus to go to four stories. 1171 01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:42,820 We have an application on Village Shopping Center 1172 01:27:42,820 --> 01:27:45,440 for a, where it's known for three stories 1173 01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:47,120 for a four story apartment building there. 1174 01:27:48,140 --> 01:27:51,280 So, you know, we're seeing the waivers and the density bonus 1175 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,320 actually asking for much higher in four stories. 1176 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,900 Just a comment on the notices. 1177 01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:07,900 is we send notices to 750 feet, not 350, so we go two and a half times as a minimum required 1178 01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:13,400 by law on our notification, had a quiet policy, and that's all I had, and that's 1179 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,680 yet additional questions. 1180 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:15,500 Thank you, David. 1181 01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:17,640 So, can I bring it back to the commission? 1182 01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:23,240 Commissioners, any questions that you might have at this point? 1183 01:28:27,370 --> 01:28:34,150 I just have one item like whoever makes the motion, I'd like to look at adding an item 1184 01:28:34,150 --> 01:28:42,950 under parking, it would be section F, it would be number four, a parking management plan for 1185 01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:48,470 the employees will be created and reviewed and approved by the town staff before certificate 1186 01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:53,010 of occupancy. We've done this before, it's a standard condition of approval. It sounds like 1187 01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,270 they've already put that in place, they've got plans for that, I just like to see it codified in here. 1188 01:28:58,090 --> 01:29:02,090 Yeah, so it's a little different than, you know, normally it's a downtown stuff where we're talking 1189 01:29:02,090 --> 01:29:04,170 about where they park in the town parking lots, 1190 01:29:04,370 --> 01:29:09,910 but we'll figure out the best way to handle that in this situation. 1191 01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,340 So if we have no other comments or questions, 1192 01:29:14,860 --> 01:29:19,440 we feel like we've absorbed the comments of the community here 1193 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,700 and been respectful to them and responded to them. 1194 01:29:23,060 --> 01:29:23,940 Is there anybody, 1195 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:39,540 isn't the bonus density law? 1196 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:40,840 They could have gone higher than that. 1197 01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:43,850 Yeah, they could have gone higher. 1198 01:29:43,850 --> 01:29:46,030 The bonus density law, the state bonus density law 1199 01:29:46,030 --> 01:29:51,130 allowed them to go even higher than that. So there's been a lot of pushback from the community to keep it there. 1200 01:30:05,730 --> 01:30:06,250 Thank 1201 01:30:22,990 --> 01:30:23,690 you, Mr. 1202 01:30:26,290 --> 01:30:29,630 Andrews. We're not getting paid. We're getting paid. 1203 01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,380 Appreciate your comments. We'll close it at that. 1204 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,040 If staff can attend, is that what you're saying? Just going to cut. 1205 01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:22,200 Mr. Andrews, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to meet you. But I attended two design review board meetings that were lengthy, that a number of the people in this room were at the meeting. 1206 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:23,760 ask very thoughtful questions. 1207 01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:30,820 The community representatives here, we've seen each other before, 1208 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:36,000 we've met each other before, we've talked about issues. Yeah, excuse me. 1209 01:31:39,220 --> 01:31:39,460 Okay, 1210 01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:41,960 so let's close 1211 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:49,700 that down. Thank you. Do I have a motion on item 5.1 of today's agenda? Commissioner Graham, 1212 01:31:49,700 --> 01:31:59,820 I move approval of resolution number 24 days, 0.09 allowing the development of I.V. 1213 01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:06,060 A 105 unit assisted living facility, Intriever Mobile Permit request T.R. 25 days, 0.13. 1214 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,680 It's allow the removal of five count protected trees. 1215 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,200 The properties located at 828 to have a road. 1216 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:22,860 currently occupied by Slope Garden Center with the addition of item F4 parking management plan 1217 01:32:22,860 --> 01:32:31,080 for employees will be created and reviewed and approved by town staff before a certificate of 1218 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,080 to occupancy as you should. 1219 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:34,840 Do I have a second? 1220 01:32:37,210 --> 01:32:39,310 I'll second it. 1221 01:32:39,870 --> 01:32:40,390 All in favour? 1222 01:32:41,230 --> 01:32:41,450 Aye. 1223 01:32:42,570 --> 01:32:43,350 Opposed? 1224 01:32:44,750 --> 01:32:45,190 Look. 1225 01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:46,250 The motion passes. 1226 01:32:48,250 --> 01:32:48,530 Okay. 1227 01:32:48,690 --> 01:32:49,970 Next item on our agenda. 1228 01:32:50,990 --> 01:32:52,050 Item six. 1229 01:32:53,010 --> 01:32:55,830 Planning update by David Crompton. 1230 01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:00,740 Thank you. 1231 01:33:01,260 --> 01:33:04,340 Not a lot of movement on our applications. 1232 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,200 As you know, it's kind of the big applications that we are kind of reviewing are includes 1233 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:14,280 the Village Shopping Center, apartments, 200 apartment units. 1234 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:16,880 We are kind of working with the applicant. 1235 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,140 We're working with the applicant and there are attorneys in our attorney's kind of making 1236 01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:27,420 sure one on the same page with the density bonus and the waivers and what have you that 1237 01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:35,500 They have requested, at the next meeting on June 10th. 1238 01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:41,160 Here, before you, we will be bringing a revised inclusionary housing 1239 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:41,700 ordinance. 1240 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,740 And that's one of the things that we wanted to do or the required 1241 01:33:45,740 --> 01:33:48,160 to do as part of our housing implementation plan. 1242 01:33:48,980 --> 01:33:52,560 And we're also bringing to you a revisions to our tree ordinance, 1243 01:33:53,020 --> 01:33:54,280 which we haven't looked at in a while. 1244 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,920 And we feel like it's time to look at that again, 1245 01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,780 given some of the recent, some of the things 1246 01:33:59,780 --> 01:34:03,140 we're experiencing with fire, danger, 1247 01:34:03,700 --> 01:34:06,580 and insurance companies, demands for trigger 1248 01:34:06,580 --> 01:34:07,740 models and what have you. 1249 01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:10,980 So that's why we're bringing it. 1250 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,760 And we'll talk about that in a couple of weeks. 1251 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,720 If you have any questions about anything else 1252 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,260 on our own town, I'd be glad to try to answer. 1253 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:24,080 Did more of a capital plan project question, 1254 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,820 Park and Ryan, where were we at that? 1255 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:29,740 That's on the back burner. 1256 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:31,380 Yeah, I don't know. 1257 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:36,200 I don't think that that's planned on being funded any time soon. 1258 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,520 Diablo Road, bike path. 1259 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:42,560 That's coming. 1260 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,720 So we've got the environmental clearances. 1261 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:52,160 We're looking at the, like the final engineered plans for them. 1262 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:56,480 I think that we are looking at getting that kicked off later this summer into the fall 1263 01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,240 so that's finally the horizon. 1264 01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:02,100 And what about Lagonda Bridge? 1265 01:35:04,380 --> 01:35:06,720 Um, the blonde bridge, I haven't heard anything about it. 1266 01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:12,380 I know that you know, Council just listened to a study session on the CIP projects that I didn't 1267 01:35:12,380 --> 01:35:16,720 listen to all of and maybe they might be able to. 1268 01:35:18,220 --> 01:35:24,820 You know, I know that there was, yeah, I have to get back you on that one. 1269 01:35:25,220 --> 01:35:26,360 That's post meeting discussion. 1270 01:35:29,570 --> 01:35:30,410 Anything else? 1271 01:35:31,090 --> 01:35:31,210 Nope. 1272 01:35:31,850 --> 01:35:36,030 I know I have a lot of happy neighbors with the trail coming down Diablo Road. 1273 01:35:36,730 --> 01:35:37,430 So, help really? 1274 01:35:37,570 --> 01:35:39,090 Yeah, they're looking forward to it. 1275 01:35:39,190 --> 01:35:40,310 Some of the bikes off the road. 1276 01:35:41,330 --> 01:35:42,830 Yeah, so that'll be a good thing. 1277 01:35:43,630 --> 01:35:44,970 Anything from the commissioners? 1278 01:35:47,330 --> 01:35:47,410 No? 1279 01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:52,870 Well, nothing else than meetings a wrap at 6.35. 1280 01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,120 Thank you. 1281 01:35:57,060 --> 01:35:57,860 Thank you. 1282 01:35:57,860 --> 01:35:57,980 Thank you. 1283 01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,080 Thank you.