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To everybody here, welcome to tonight's council meeting. I is your mayor and presiding officer, my role in the town charter and the town of Dunbridge rules procedure.

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It's an issue of orderly processing of business and maintaining the quorum so that all participants, council staff and the public can be heard respectfully and fairly.

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Today's end, please note the following requirements which apply equally to council members and to the public.

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All comments must be directed through the mayor who is the chair in the presided office of this meeting.

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No comment should be directed to an individual member, staff member or member of the public.

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We ask that you keep your cross-talk and your side conversations to a minimum.

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Any remarks from the diet should be made audible so that it becomes a part of the official record.

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Electronic devices we ask that you silence them.

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Texas email messages related to public business matters up here is subject to 4-year and should

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I know one may speak when another person has the floor, interruptions will be ruled out

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of order.

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Council members will be recognized by the mayor before speaking.

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Council members may speak up to 2 times on any item, with a combined total of no more than

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Members of the public are a lot of 3 minutes to speak, door and citizen comment time and the

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side unless otherwise changed by a majority vote by the council prior to this meeting.

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Doing this in comment time, members will not respond directly to the speakers or response

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clarifications or follow remarks may be offered later or doing the designated council

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Any member rule out of order, I will yield the floor immediately unless the ruling is appealed

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by the council in accordance to Robert's rule.

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This rupt of behavior may result in a removal for an immediate and necessary expulsion for

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the remainder of the session.

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I speak as who exceed the allotted time, or violate the calm, may have the microphone

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Our council direction is given collectively to the council for the town manager, any political

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commentary attempts to draw staff into the little matters are not appropriate, staff are

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expected to remain neutral and professional.

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So these rules are designed to protect the rights of our participants and show a compliance

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with the law and keep our meeting efficient, respectful and productive.

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Thank you for your cooperation with that.

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I now call this meeting to order

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off of the roll.

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Afterment and fail.

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And here.

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Calment and P.

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There.

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Calment and yolk.

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Calment to one meter soon.

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Chair for some mouth.

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Vice Mary Nicole Seeing.

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Mayor will.

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Thank you.

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Alright.

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We will now.

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How.

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Pleasure of Allegiance,

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Martiana and I.

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All right.

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I think they're back to

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get rid of the accidents.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to our republic for which we stand on nation under God and invisible with liberty and justice for all.

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one hour, order, but that's okay. I will have the, I will have the, I will open the

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implication that prayer, my past the Frank Wesley River light church. So, thank you.

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Thank you, Peter. One less than,

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let's pray. All mighty God, we come before you with gratitude.

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We thank you for being a God of love with with us now in this very room. We never let you

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Grace has brought us safe thus far and your grace will continue to lead us home, Lord.

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We thank you for making each of us in this room every person we meet, every citizen of

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this city and every nation in your image with dignity.

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We thank you for the call you have given each and every one of us to be good stewards over your creation to love our neighbors as ourselves.

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I thank you tonight for these your servants, our mayor, our city manager, our city staff, our city council, and all the staff members.

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I give you thanks for the way of service they have chosen to take all behalf of all of us here.

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So, God, in your work, you make clear your expectation for those who sit in places of authority.

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So, we pray that you would glorify tonight through the suggestions of this council.

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We pray that you would have the eyes to see how our lives are all connected and how our common good is upheld when we listen and respond to your wisdom.

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We pray that your kingdom will come in the city of Dorfers as it is in heaven through your power

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work and in each of these your servants. And Jesus saying we pray and everyone said amen.

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Thank you.

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You two young ladies.

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I did a comeback to the bill.

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I'm a reasonable lawyer.

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All right.

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To hold by ambassadors.

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Ayana and Tiana.

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And we read.

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Tiana's first.

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A grateful recognition for your leadership.

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Your service in leading.

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Our pledge of allegiance.

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As girls got ambassador with true.

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A 12-grade student at Christ Chapel Academy.

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You've demonstrated a confidence, civil pride and commendable commitment to community service,

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your participation, help open the meeting with dignity, respect,

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wildlife, and the values, and leadership, citizenship, and service and body by the

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girl scouts.

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On behalf of the Town Council, the Town staff and the residents of Duffley,

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thank you for your service and helping make it this meaningful.

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You are 12 great student at CD Hill to High School, and you also demonstrated confidence,

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a little pride, a commitment to community service on behalf of the Town Council, to Town

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staff, and the residents of Town Duffers. Thank you for your service.

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Get your mouth, they want to.

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next to an agenda is the adoption of the agenda. I'm going to remove from the

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consent agenda.

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The municipal Boundary Study and I'll put that after the flock discussion

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in that B. Okay. Any other changes or

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did them to the agenda?

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Yes, I did. You know what? No, I'm

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ahead of myself. Okay, back to it. All right. Okay.

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Seeing none, I moved that we adopt the agenda with the

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amendments. Okay, so we moved in second and

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the discussion. All right, seeing none,

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Madam Clerk, call for the question.

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Catherine Feele.

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Catherine P.

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Catherine Young.

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Catherine McFeederson.

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Chair for O'Donnell House.

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Mayor Wood.

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The motion's fair.

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All right.

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First of all, agenda is a proclamation recognizing the month of September as afternoon to ask for a month.

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It says where's the afternoon to ask for represents people of afternoon to sense whose histories

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cultures and contributions span nations and generations across the world.

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The African diaspora has made lasting contributions to history, culture, economic, economy,

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civic light, arts, entertainment, entrepreneurship, and the progress of the United States,

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and the Commonwealth of Virginia.

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Where's the town of Dumfries is strengthened by residents, families, businesses,

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faith communities and community leaders representing the rich diversity of the

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African diaspora?

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Recognizing the diaspora provides an opportunity to honor share their heritage while celebrating

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the distinct histories, language traditions, and experiences that enrich our community.

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We're preserving cultural heritage and shaping the stories of past generations,

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strengthens identity, falsehood, pride, and inspires future leaders.

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We're as meaningful connections across the African diaspora,

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create opportunities for cultural exchange, editing.

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Occasion, entrepreneurship, economic empowerment, civic engagement, and global partnership.

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Where the town of Duffins remains committed to fostering a welcoming community where diversity

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strength is unity and advances opportunity for the fall.

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Now, therefore, the April claim that the town of Duffins town council do here by

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Proclaim September 26, as African diaspora might in the town of Duffins.

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When we encourage all our residents to celebrate the history, the culture, the contributions

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of people throughout the afternoon that I asked for, and to continue building bridges across

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cultures and generations that strengthen our future. There are many routes, one community,

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and a stronger future. Sign, Mayor Derek Orwood by Order of the Town Council.

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Good evening, everyone. My name is Kamel Moosa and this is in front of you. I was going to speak so people by the way.

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But we are a committee of the African diaspora. We all over the country, but especially in the beginning, I'm kind of a very constituted.

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and the town of Dumfries. Some of us live here. We do business over here. We live here for

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26 years. We run businesses. So we pay taxes. We contribute to the community. And we also

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volunteer and help with donations back home. So we coordinate activities and the nation's

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back home to support nearly communities like hospitals and schools and stuff. So I'm going to say

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I didn't know I was going to speak so.

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Pardon me.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Next one out agenda is a proclamation, but

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National Preparedness Month.

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Where as emergencies rarely give us the time or warning,

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we would like and being prepared before something happens can protect

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lives, families, homes, businesses, and our community.

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Where the town of Dumpings understands the importance of preparing for

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emergencies that can affect our community, including severe storms,

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flooding, power outages, fires, and other unexpected events.

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Where its preparedness begins with simple actions, knowing how your family will communicate

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during an emergency, having a central supplies available, receiving local emergency alerts,

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nor where to go if evacuation becomes necessary, and checking on neighbors who may need

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additional assistance.

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Where's our responsibility extends beyond our individual households, because a truly prepared

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community is one when neighbors look out for neighbors and no residents of a guy in doing an emergency.

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Whereas the strength and resilience of dumpries are supported every day by law enforcement

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officers, our firefighters, emergency medical personnel, our 911 dispatchers, emergency management

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professionals, town employees, volunteers, community organizers and regional partners who prepare,

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respond and help our community recover. And whereas national preparedness might remind us

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that why we cannot prevent every emergency.

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We can determine how prepared we are when one occurs.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the town council.

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We do hear by proclaim the month of September,

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2026 is National Preparedness Month in the town of Dundries

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and we encourage every resident family, business, school,

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faith, community, and organization

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to take at least one action this month

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to become better prepared.

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Make a family emergency plan, build or update

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and emergency kits sign up for local emergency alerts,

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learn the risk facing our community

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and make a plan to check on neighbors who may need help.

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Together, we can build a dumpries that is in.

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Form, connected, prepared, and ready to take care of one another when it matters. Sorry, Mayor Derek R. Wood by Order of the Town Council.

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And can we have Director Brian Misner, Director Katie Carroll, David Glenn Glynnsky, and Chief Galian Sue come up forward for a picture.

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We'll be meeting Mayor Wood and Council members. Thank you very much for the

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Proclamation. My name is Brian Meizner and I'm the Emergency Management Coordinator

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from Priscilla and County. The Proclamation really did a great job of hitting on all what

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we call our pillars of preparedness that we like to remind the community to make sure that

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have an emergency supply kit, a plan of where they'll go if they have to evacuate their neighborhood,

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a way to receive alerts and preferably more than one way to receive alerts, an opportunity

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to get involved, whether that's with volunteer organization that's active in disaster, or

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as the proclamation said, even at your neighborhood level.

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This year's theme for preparedness months that by the federal emergency management agency is American

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stand ready.

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I really want to take a moment to reiterate that theme of neighbor's helping neighbors, because

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as well. We are very prepared as a county as a community. We work very closely with the town,

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with our emergency management plans and procedures. We are still at risk of having something

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like a rather impactful travel storm or hurricane or a winter storm, which we certainly

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have not been shy away from here in the last couple of years with some of the winter weather.

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So that can impact emergency services and that means it could take longer for help to get to you.

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So really take a couple of minutes this month to check with your neighbors, figure out the skill sets

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that you all have, the supplies that you might be able to kind of coordinate with each other,

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to be able to to shelter in place and right out at event for at least three days while the

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system worked on responding and getting us back to normal. So again, thank you very much for

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the proclamation. I do have some of our preparedness pamphlets that I'll leave, you know what the

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clerk can leave out front. And we also have a website with all of our resources in the county level.

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and that's pwcva.gov slash ready, so thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right next on our genders.

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What will longest be approval of the minutes from the August 5th, 2026 town council meeting.

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Mr. Mayor, like the move that we approve the minutes from our last meeting.

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Actually, I don't have the motion from there.

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Okay, I like to withdraw that motion.

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Chair Prodo.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor.

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I like to make a motion to amend the meeting minutes from August.

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there was a statement in the minutes that the council and staff had taken action on an event

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and no action to a place. I just wanted that corrected in the record. There was no official

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action taken. Okay. Any thank us? So your motion is to amend with that statement? Yes, correct.

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Okay. Can I repeat you want to? Yes, Mr. Mayor, I like to make the motion to approve the

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I mean, I mean, the proven minutes from our last meeting with the amendments to the motion as well.

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I any other comment?

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All right, saying that.

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Madam Clerk, call for the question.

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for it. Yes. All right. Next one,

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our gen is our citizen comment here.

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Are there citizen signed up to speak tonight?

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Yes. Yep, a total of eight speakers.

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The first one is Jeff.

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And we, we're going to call you also.

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You all could line up against the wall.

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And we'll have a timer up here.

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So you can see the timer. You know,

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when your time expires from speaking.

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Jeff,

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Paul Kerson, Don Pannell, I'm sorry for the first name Rosey or Ronnie Azales, Anthony Fields, Derek.

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Green, and Angela Assul.

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All right, proceed. Just restate your name for the record so they know you are. Please speak it.

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My name is Jeff Falkerson. I'm the public hearing engagement coordinator with Prince William County Social Services.

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Also with the Prince William County Falker initiative. I'm here to share some information about our fatherhood initiative here in Prince William County.

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First off, I'd like to appreciate the invitation to speak, extend that to Mayor Wood and also

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to council members and just a little bit about the Prince William County Fatherhood Initiative.

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This has been around since 2012.

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We have, you know, served fathers within this county since then and our whole goal is to

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Our health fathers strengthen their connections with their children and also to help them develop better co-parenting relationships with their children's mothers.

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Some of the programming that we offer throughout the year, one of the main stays of the program is our fatherhood workshops.

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We call these 24-7 Dad workshops and I do have some flyers here that I will place out on the table.

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We're currently recruiting fathers to participate in that.

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All of our sessions are virtual right now.

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Not in person, but we do have in-person events.

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So we have our, we're actually facilitating workshops in the community virtually.

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But we're also facilitating workshops at the Presswoman County,

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the NASA's Advil the Tension Center. We facilitated a program called Inside Out VAD. Every year

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we have two events, our father and daughter dance, and we have over 200 people that show up at

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the Falazzo building dressed to the dress to the nine, you know, and fathers with their daughters,

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and they have a great time, and we also have something called VAD's pool day. You know, we're,

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out the waterworks water park and as in their children and their wives, you know, get a chance

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to just enjoy some fun in the sun and they also get some food, you know, and it's all paid

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for by the county, you know. So we're doing, you know, stuff like that, you know, within the county

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and I do want to acknowledge my, you know, I have some of my facilitators, we call them fatherhood

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So they're here in the audience as well, Darwin Barcus, William Jackson, and Will Mall.

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He is a part of our steering committee.

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And we are always encouraging residents to actually help us out service volunteers for some of our special events.

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But also, if they want to join us for our workshops, they are also welcome.

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We welcome any man who has an adult child to serve as a father with mental, you know,

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so they can join their conversations and that is something that we really appreciate.

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But again, I just want to thank you, Mayor Wood and also the council members for just

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allowing us this opportunity to share a little bit about the fatherhood initiative.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'm Anthony Fields. I'm here representing the friends of Dumfries late cemetery.

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We just came to thank you for your financial contributions to the cemetery.

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We have been

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doing cemetery since 2011. We found out about it.

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We've been cleaning it every set. Thank you for helping us hear our ancestors dignity and death that they did not have in life.

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Our mission is to preserve, maintain and restore the slave cemetery, promote and improve awareness of this history, and the cemetery and the two, I'm sorry, to be honored and preserve the memory of the people that are buried there.

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Your grant helps us do that and we thank you.

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Make sure that you agree it.

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We've been able to buy Rose Bush's support to place at the cemetery, mulch, bricks to line the cemetery,

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rosebees, and other items to maintain the grounds. We have volunteers that come out. We work every

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second Saturday from 8 to 10, and this second Saturday, which is the 12th of September. We were honored

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board scout troop from British Georgia County, Maryland, the Army of Symmeter about having

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one of the kids do an Eagle Scout project at the Symmeter.

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What they did was prepare the grounds to make a flat head stone commemorating our ancestors.

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Stone is going to be dedicated on the 12th of September and that's our next cleanup at about

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945.

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We're going to do a clean up and then we're going to dedicate the stone.

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Mayor Wood has so graciously said that he would grace us with his presence and offer remarks.

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And we really appreciate that, Mayor.

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Again, the front of the Nuffles Place and Materials Foundation members and from the heart.

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I'm from my heart.

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We thank you very, very much for your support.

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I will look forward to your continued support that we continue to preserve our ancestors

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burial ground. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

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One last thing, Mr. Mayor, my wife

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found out that you were, where did you see if you told me I had to get this thing.

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Oh, that's good.

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Maybe.

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his wife went to church with my grandmother back in Norfolk.

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Should I low that discharge across from Norfolk State?

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Good evening members of Council on Reverend Dr. Derekensen.

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I'm asking you to do something very simple tonight to stop normalizing mass surveillance of innocent people.

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These A-flot cameras that have been placed on private property throughout our city are paid for by government money and grants

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and they create a record of where vehicles travel, not because these people have committed

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a crime, but simply because they drove through our town.

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And before anyone says if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

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I want us to remember something about American history.

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Harriet Tubman was a fugitive under the laws of her time.

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She violated laws that the government considered legitimate.

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If an all-seeing surveillance system had existed then,

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It could have been used to track her movements and help enforce those laws, changing American history.

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The point isn't the flat cameras or slavery, or the dumpries is the government of the 1850s.

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The point is that the laws and government can be wrong, and it isn't ancient history.

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For years, the FBI co-integrated co-intellipro using surveillance and infiltration against

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American organizations involved in political and civil rights activity.

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The government had surveillance powers, and those of powers were eventually used in ways that went far beyond what many Americans considered legitimate law enforcement.

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So here's my question. Why should we build a system today that assumes the government will always use this information exactly as intended?

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You may trust the officials sitting on this council, I may trust them as well, but we're not building a system for our government.

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We're building a system for future, and we don't know what that entails. We don't know who will hold office next.

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The question isn't about whether Flock helps solve crime. The question is whether surveillance is what we need of innocent Americans.

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And once this database exists for Flock, who gets access, we see all over the news now.

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Law enforcement is misusing the system, the state of Florida Governor DeSantis has just

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banned it on government highways or state highways, pardon me.

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How long is that information kept?

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Who gets the search it?

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Do they search it for innocent people?

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Do they search it because you refuse to take the COVID vaccine?

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Do they search it because heaven forbids your African-American?

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or do they search it because you're a Christian or a Jew? What do they do with it? Why do they need this?

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They don't need it, it's the answer. Freedom requires limits. Precisely because we don't know who will hold that power tomorrow.

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Council members, you have an opportunity to draw that line here tonight.

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Don't make Dumfries a town where surveillance of innocent citizens becomes the price of life.

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Living here, make it this the town that Mayor Derek Wood wants it to be, not just to drive through town, but a hot town where people want to live and want to build their families. Take down the cameras.

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A pass of where are you from again?

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I'm from Netflix.

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Not a rich one.

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Mr. Wilson, a clerk out there.

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Good afternoon, Mayor Wood.

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I would also like to speak against the use of plot cameras in this area.

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I'm very concerned that the town of Dumfries is planning to use their taxpayer dollars

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to pay for a private company to collect and store data

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on the movements of its people,

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both the people who live here and the people who come through.

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This is also using a technology that has been proved

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to be faulty in many regards.

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From the many security vulnerabilities

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that allow bad actors not just law enforcement,

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but many people can use the multiple

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to follow people and just honestly stalk them.

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Also, this technology has been proven to be an accurate.

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Many times, people are falsely arrested,

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because the technology believes one thing and makes a false conclusion.

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And also, just the general detrimental impact of the data centers that are powering this technology

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that they had on our nearby communities,

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that the light pollution, the sound pollution,

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that increase on the strain of our water and electric infrastructure,

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there's too many other concerns to be able to speak to these today.

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I'm incredibly concerned that this is the direction of the town dump freeze,

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where I live, and plans to live for a very long time is seeking to pursue.

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and get name again for the order.

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You're name.

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Oh, sorry.

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Good.

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Good

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evening.

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I am Martina Jackson Green.

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I'm the Chief Advancement Officer at Birmingham Green.

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And I am with Angela Asmoa, who is our admissions liaison.

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So some of you may know about Birmingham Green.

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Many of you don't because we're neatly tucked away.

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We are a senior living campus.

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We've been serving the community for 99 years.

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Right here in Northern Virginia.

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We are the only affordable senior living community in Northern Virginia.

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We specifically serve people, seniors, and those with disabilities who have income constraints.

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If you've tried to put a family member in assisted living, you know how expensive that can be.

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And so we are that lifeline for many of the residents here.

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So tonight we are coming to share that we are having our 99 celebration on September 17th.

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we'd like to invite you to all come.

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Hopefully you've seen this pop up on your social media,

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you're in the area, we've targeted,

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but we'd love for you to come and celebrate with us

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to honor the history that we've had and celebrate the work

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that we do, we currently have 300 beds

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into assisted living buildings in a nursing home.

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And we serve our residents with great care and great pride.

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But also on our 54 acre campus,

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we are seeking to expand.

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We want to add buildings and add beds so that we can serve even more.

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A part of that plan is also workforce housing, as we know we all need that.

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And so we'd love to have your support come and check us out.

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In addition to that, though, we would love to have you come for a tour.

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So many of our residents don't know that we're there.

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They don't know how we serve and the quality of care that we provide.

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It's not about do you want to age in place or do you want to go to a facility?

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We want people to age in places, much as you can, but what we know is sometimes we have

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family members and community members who care level exceeds what their friends and family

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can provide and often what their finances can provide.

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So that we hope that you will come and check us out, come support us.

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I will leave some information on the table out there so that you can grab an invitation

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on your way out. Thank you so much for inviting us, Mayor Wood, and we sincerely hope that you all will not only

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look into Birmingham Green, volunteer with us, support our work. Thank you.

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You got to give them an address so they can find you. Oh, it's on the floor. Yes, everything is on here.

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So you can grab it. We're 86.05 Centerville Road. 86.05 Centerville Road in Manassus.

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Thank you.

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All right, was there? Is there no more speakers? I would now have council comments. All right. Council on Peterson, you have any remarks tonight?

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Just saying that C. All the kids going back to school, watch out for them. They're out here in the streets on these corners. Be careful. That's all.

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I count some of my feels.

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Good evening, everyone.

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Yes, school has started and yes, be careful, get your loved ones off the school

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and all that good stuff and next thing you know is football season.

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Friday night football is at the, at the games, at the high schools.

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God enjoy supporting our local teams.

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Hot topic, hot topic, I want to speak a little bit about the flood cameras.

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As being a prior law enforcement, I am in much favor of the flood cameras.

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And many of you have heard me mention something that goes along like this until it happens

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to you.

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Until it happens to you that you're affected by a crime, you're affected by a loved one

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cost, you're affected by a child missing, or a person of interest that police are looking

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for, happens to come through a wonderful town of Dumfries.

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And our flower cameras can use this technology and information to track that person.

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Again, until it happens to you.

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Two years ago, my 101-year-old grandmother went missing, and yes, she was still driving.

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In the county of Denver, where I used to work as a deputy, I teamed up with the Sheriff's Office

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and on a Saturday morning after she had been missing for going on two days.

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We got information from the flock camera that she was heading in a westward direction along

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with other witness statements that they saw her going in that direction.

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Before then Friday, I covered along with other friends covered, maybe five known counties

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because we knew what grandmother liked to frequent.

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The county of Denwitty, the next county over is Brunswick County, Mecklenburg County.

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I even went all the way to Greenville County, Lawrenceville, and for you back to McKinney, Virginia.

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It wasn't in sale the next day, well, we concentrated, and we had a press conference, and I'll let a team out going westward.

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Also, a good friend of the shares took his plane up in the air and found my grandmother's vehicle

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because of the help of that flock camera.

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So again, I'll say, until it happens to you, will it become beneficial?

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We're here tonight to discuss policy that we're going to put in place

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for all officers here in the town to have strict guidelines on what to do and what not to do.

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Yes, there have been many bad actors out there, but I'll tell you one thing if a bad actor happens here,

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it's going to be dealt with, here she would be dealt with with harsh penalties and harsh consequences.

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The due respect to concerns of that people have raised about the policy and the full

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amendment. By saying that flood cameras are simply unconstitutional, goes further than

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what the courts have actually held. The full-feminine amendment protects against unreasonable

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search and seizures. It does not prohibit law enforcement from observing what is

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only exposed to public view, including a vehicle and license plate traveling on a

462
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:32,360
public roadway. That distinction is important. In 2005, the Virginia Court of Appeals

463
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:39,980
address Norfolk's flock system directly in commonwealth versus church.

464
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The court concluded that because the system photographed the defendant's vehicle and

465
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,100
license plate while driving on a public road, police did not need the search warrant to

466
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,940
access those particular flock cameras.

467
00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:59,980
The cover verse, the look.

468
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:10,080
In January, 2026, a federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia considered a direct fourth

469
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:18,520
amendment challenge to Norfolk's broader ALPR program. The case specifically addressed whether

470
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:25,080
widespread use of automatic license plate readers to photograph vehicles on public road raise

471
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,060
violated the Fourth Amendment.

472
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,240
That does not mean government should have unlimited surveillance authority.

473
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:43,620
There is a legitimate conversation to be had about how long information is retained, who can

474
00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:51,040
access it, what agencies it can be shared with, auditing requirements, misuse by individual

475
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:57,280
officers and where the safeguards should be strengthened. Again, that's why we're here tonight.

476
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:07,260
I support strong safeguards and accountability. Again, until it happens to you.

477
00:41:07,580 --> 00:41:14,240
But those policy concerns are different from declaring the technology itself is unconstitutional.

478
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:21,000
There is also an important difference between a camera recorded in a vehicle at a particular

479
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,860
location.

480
00:41:21,860 --> 00:41:28,260
It's going to probably grow away and the type of continuous copy here is a tracking.

481
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:36,240
The Supreme Court has examined in cases involving GPS or historical cell phone data collecting

482
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,040
information.

483
00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:40,820
So my position remains straightforward.

484
00:41:40,820 --> 00:41:48,320
We can support effective tools that help law enforcement, locate stolen vehicles, identify

485
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:55,640
one of persons, and investigate serious crimes while also demanding strict policies protecting

486
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,380
citizens.

487
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:57,620
That's what I miss you.

488
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,960
That's your time, Councilman Fils.

489
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:00,620
I will go to move on.

490
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Councilman Pete.

491
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,900
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

492
00:42:05,420 --> 00:42:06,100
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

493
00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:09,100
I just have a couple of comments this evening.

494
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:10,900
Yes, I still don't know back at school.

495
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,120
Please do watch them.

496
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:19,900
Please do get out to our local football games or high school football games on the Fridays.

497
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,180
And Potomac will be playing on Thursday this week.

498
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,660
Guys, those stay in tune to these schedules of our local football teams.

499
00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:30,820
Just have a couple of follow-up items for the town manager.

500
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:37,040
The town manager, we have several matters that the council privilege discussed for

501
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,600
to follow up on. I just want to make sure that we are keeping track of them and not falling through the cracks.

502
00:42:43,820 --> 00:42:49,060
Could you give us a brief status, either tonight or on and upcoming meeting on the farmers,

503
00:42:49,760 --> 00:43:02,040
market and flea market proposal, the EDA vacancies, the trash matter for the second day update on discussion that we've had.

504
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:10,040
the update on areas on main, where we are in the latest on that, and then also on our community center.

505
00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:16,540
If any of those have already been completed or resolved, that's fine. I'd like to know the final

506
00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:21,840
disposition. If anything that's still outstanding, I'd like to know when the council should

507
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:30,280
expect it back. I also have one question regarding the Jeff Simpson building, and that is the,

508
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,820
Even though we know it's a historical building, I've already had several multi-perverses in

509
00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:38,000
our community building.

510
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,600
My question is specifically about the upstairs.

511
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,820
What are the town's plans for the upstairs portion of the Jeff Simpson building?

512
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:51,560
As we move forward with the building assessments, will that assessment help us determine what

513
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,640
needs to be done to make the upstairs usable and what we're in the space?

514
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:07,000
what can we ultimately use the space for? With that, Mr. May? I, uh, one more. On the September

515
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:16,080
to 16th, we will be having our annual community verse to police department,

516
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,620
I'll tell

517
00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:32,020
PM to eight. Again, it's on September 16th. Again, Memorial Park, marketing,

518
00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:38,900
your colleges bring the family out. This is not just a basketball game. I put

519
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:44,700
this in place, not just so we can have a day, but so our citizens can bridge

520
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:52,620
the gap between the citizens and our police department. At one point in time, there

521
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:54,680
was a, we don't like.

522
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,640
What could I do as a leader to amend that measure? So what I did was come up with a basketball game to where our police department can engage with our citizens every day. And they can see and have some fun with them, learn their names and faces. So that triggers back to our everyday safety. When it goes to, hey, I'll play the basketball game with, she galeed and he met me, basketball player,

523
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,880
high school student Sean Pete and you know just bridging the culpability of citizens and

524
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:42,280
police department which has been a mechanism that has been working for some years ago.

525
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:47,000
There was a little a little disturbance on our youth at that time.

526
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:53,820
We've been putting in measures and things in place that can help move that in a different

527
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:54,360
direction.

528
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,520
And it's been working.

529
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,880
So please do, it's an exciting event.

530
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,560
You'll have a great time, it's all said day on door to week

531
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,800
that I chose to use the week day, as I'm not on the weekend,

532
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,080
just for us.

533
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:08,780
But come on out there and have a good time with us.

534
00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:12,200
Please come support our community being united.

535
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,460
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, that's all I have for this time.

536
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,840
That's me, yeah.

537
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

538
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,700
First, again, I want to echo with other council members.

539
00:46:20,860 --> 00:46:22,300
It says, as far as watching out for the kids,

540
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:30,100
back in school, please slow down when you see these buses. They had a couple of small, yet minor

541
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:36,800
incidents where cars just is only passed the bus stops. As the flashing red lights were going,

542
00:46:38,060 --> 00:46:42,140
the person in public school system is aware of it and they're going to be doing some more

543
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:48,620
to combat that or to help with that. Second, speaking of our kids, I don't know if many of you know,

544
00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:53,720
There is a extremist violent online networking group

545
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,560
that's targeting children and teenagers known as 764.

546
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,280
And what they're using, they're using social platforms

547
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,100
and gaming platforms to speak to these kids.

548
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,720
Pretty much having them to hurt themselves, harm others,

549
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,760
to just do violent acts, and even to commit suicide.

550
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:20,420
had been for one teenager in Maine who brought it to the attention of their parents who

551
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:24,740
would then contacted the FBI. This situation would probably have been unnoticed for a good

552
00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:29,100
little while, but it's out there now. So please, please watch the actions of the kids.

553
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:33,340
Always check in order. You're the parent, check in order. You may be an auntie. You may be

554
00:47:33,340 --> 00:47:37,520
an uncle, check in order. It's not as intrusion. Just make sure that they're safe.

555
00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:55,520
Third, like the note, this Hispanic heritage month, celebrating the history and culture of the contributions to our town and community that our Hispanics and Latino community has had on our town and our community.

556
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:07,340
And finally, Mr. Mayor, and everyone here, I am so excited to announce that the town of Dumfries is proud to launch our Labour of Love.

557
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:20,440
We can. It's a community service initiative that helps eligible homeowners to combine the home repairs home improvements and different projects that may have around a house and no labor cost whatsoever.

558
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,880
This is to us. So if you're looking to volunteer.

559
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,180
I'm having this Saturday.

560
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,080
You can meet me here.

561
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,960
Meet me here.

562
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,680
Meet us here, between 7.

563
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:31,740
7.45.

564
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,720
If you want to volunteer.

565
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,280
And this we have a collection of our town staff,

566
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,120
myself along with other neighbors in the community.

567
00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:41,780
If you want to be able to volunteer,

568
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:45,880
please email events at events.

569
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,560
I'm sorry.

570
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,220
Events at dumprees.com.

571
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,360
I'm sorry.

572
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:51,980
That goes.

573
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:52,720
Sorry.

574
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,940
It's like a side of sight and I'm sorry, the events at Dumfries VA.gov, if you

575
00:48:58,940 --> 00:49:03,160
willing to volunteer, you can find the information from there and we'll get everything in.

576
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:07,500
To do a small background check, just to make sure that we will be going into

577
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:08,280
people's property.

578
00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:11,740
Now, to their home, but into their properties, which want to make sure that everything is

579
00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:11,860
there.

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00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,300
All right.

581
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,940
And with that, Mr. Mayor, I thank you for your time.

582
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,820
Thank you, sir.

583
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,820
Chef Ota.

584
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:18,960
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

585
00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:20,060
Good evening, everyone.

586
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,700
Thank you for joining us, whether you're here in person or

587
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:28,680
watching from home, definitely appreciate your support and tuning in. Everyone is down

588
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,560
off to a great school year as big for many parents out there when I argued that this is

589
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,340
the most wonderful time of the year. So the kids are back at school and everything's well,

590
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,400
I do want to thank the chief and the Dumfries Police Department because I have seen you when we

591
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,280
talk about looking out for the kids, I've seen the officers out, my name is Rouse,

592
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,380
we're children are walking to school, making sure they get their safely making sure

593
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,700
things around this movie so I do want to thank the police department for their work on that.

594
00:50:00,370 --> 00:50:08,070
I hope everyone is ready to enjoy the upcoming long weekend. Tonight, I do want to take a moment to share

595
00:50:08,070 --> 00:50:13,690
something that is both a tremendous honor and a deeply personal issue for me. It was recently

596
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:17,650
appointed by Governor Spamberger to serve or in the Commonwealth of Virginia's Board of Medical

597
00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:24,510
Assistant Services, which provides policy oversight and guidance to Virginia's Medicaid program. This

598
00:50:24,510 --> 00:50:28,510
is an opportunity to help give a voice to the families and communities whose lives are directly

599
00:50:28,510 --> 00:50:34,050
impacted by our healthcare system. As the mother of a son with a disability, I understand

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00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:37,750
personally what it means for our family to have to depend on access to quality healthcare,

601
00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:43,070
services and supports. Those experiences help shape my commitment to public service and

602
00:50:43,070 --> 00:50:48,050
I believe that access to healthcare can determine whether our family simply survives or has

603
00:50:48,050 --> 00:50:53,710
the opportunity to thrive. Medicaid serves children, seniors, people with disabilities,

604
00:50:54,310 --> 00:50:58,410
pregnant women, working families, and some of our most vulnerable neighbors. I was actually

605
00:50:58,410 --> 00:51:04,270
really excited to hear from Birmingham rain and night because a lot of people are unaware of

606
00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:10,970
Medicaid's role in caring for individuals who have those ailments and you know we need to support

607
00:51:10,970 --> 00:51:15,810
organizations like yourself and I'm really excited to hear from y'all and I can't wait to

608
00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:16,890
enjoy your facility.

609
00:51:19,330 --> 00:51:19,890
And

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00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:32,320
the thing that I'm most proud of with this appointment is that

611
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:40,120
take this community with me. I had use every opportunity to advocate to learn into influence policy

612
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:47,200
to make sure dumpries as well as communities similar to dumpries are seeing her represented and

613
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:53,300
respected. So I'm excited to get to work and I can't wait to give more report back and with that I will

614
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:56,860
Thank you.

615
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,560
Good evening, Duffers.

616
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:00,560
Here we are in September.

617
00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:03,740
And I want to start out by saying thank you.

618
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,200
Thank you to our staff.

619
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:07,380
Thank you to our police department.

620
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:08,340
Thank you to public works.

621
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,640
The parks and civic engagement, volunteers,

622
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,300
our businesses and our residents who continue to just show up.

623
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:19,080
And to help move this town forward.

624
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,520
A lot of things.

625
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:50,500
We have a lot of moving parts happening in the town of Duffers right now, but I want us all to remember that all of this work is tied back to the vision that this council adopted for our town a well managed government and engage community and a thriving community well managed government means that we plan ahead we go after outside resources we protect our taxpayer dollars and we make sure that the work we do

626
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:57,640
today, puts the town of Dumfries in a stronger position, a well managed government.

627
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,220
That's why I want to recognize, you know, our police department for going out and securing

628
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:09,180
the grant funding to bring additional public safety tools to our community.

629
00:53:09,540 --> 00:53:14,960
We should always encourage all about departments to pursue those outside resources that

630
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,580
and help us do more without putting the full burden

631
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:19,980
or the taxpayers.

632
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,360
It also means that we gotta stay willing to listen.

633
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,100
We gotta stay willing to adjust

634
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:31,940
and to make sure that our public has confidence

635
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,100
in how those tools are gonna be used.

636
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,400
That brings me to an engaged community, right?

637
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,100
September, we gave out a few proclamations

638
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:46,360
I've been asked for my national prepared this month.

639
00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:50,940
We will celebrate sickle cell awareness and Hispanic might at the next meeting.

640
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,700
These observations are more their recognition.

641
00:53:56,220 --> 00:54:03,280
They're reminders to see one another, to learn from one another, to prepare together

642
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,780
and to make sure people know that their voice is matters.

643
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:26,200
because engagement is not just about coming to a council meeting, it's about showing up for your neighbors, it's about asking questions, it's about being informed and it's about helping shape the future of the place that we all call home and then there's the thriving community.

644
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:35,980
We recently celebrated our opening and the written cutting of the first Tesla Supercharger station here at the town of Dumpfries at the Wawa.

645
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,640
We did a zero emissions fleet.

646
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,240
We had an intern come in.

647
00:54:41,540 --> 00:54:45,820
That's another small but meaningful sign of where the town of Dumpfries is going.

648
00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:53,680
We are building not a place that simply people are going to drive through but a place that people are going to drive to.

649
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,560
So tonight was on the hear about how our history can become part of our economic future.

650
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,340
Being Virginia's oldest continuously charter town should not just be something we say, it should be something we can see, we can experience support and invest in.

651
00:55:10,660 --> 00:55:17,000
And before September's over, we'll take another step towards building the thriving community through our economic mobility on September 30th.

652
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:26,900
We're going to kick off the mayor's legacy initiative. This opportunity was made possible through the grant support for the African-American Mayor's Association,

653
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:31,540
and it's work to build economic mobility and underserved communities.

654
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,540
And for me, legacy is not simply about what we lead behind.

655
00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:38,360
It's about what we help people build while we're here.

656
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:39,380
It's about ownership.

657
00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:40,540
It's about preparation.

658
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:46,860
It's about creating pathways where families protect what they have work for and build something they can reach the next generations.

659
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:49,160
So I hope our residents to stay connected.

660
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,640
We can share more information about the September 30th kick off soon.

661
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,400
We heard about the September 12th.

662
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:02,040
single-scout ceremony at our Duffy Slaves Cemetery. As we move it to the next season, I want

663
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:09,000
us to keep the bigger picture in front of us. Remember well-managed, engaged, and thriving. Those

664
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,180
are not just words on the strategic plan. They're the standard we should measure ourselves against.

665
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,580
And before I close, let me leave you with a little food for thought. Growth is easy to celebrate

666
00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:22,840
when you see the ribbon cutting.

667
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:27,040
But leadership usually happens long before the ribbon.

668
00:56:27,460 --> 00:56:30,640
It happens in the planet, it happens in the uncomfortable questions.

669
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,740
It happens in a decision that they don't make headlines.

670
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,740
And it happens when we choose to build something that will outlast us.

671
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,100
People see fruit.

672
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:41,800
They don't always see the roots.

673
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:44,800
So let us keep knowing this root work up here.

674
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,180
Let us keep building something strong enough for the next generation of stand-on.

675
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:49,700
Thank you.

676
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,580
And let's get to work.

677
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:56,080
With that said, we'll have our first report in presentation.

678
00:56:56,860 --> 00:56:59,560
And that had come from the historical feasibility study

679
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,400
by the National Travel Center team.

680
00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:05,630
Good evening.

681
00:57:05,970 --> 00:57:08,670
And I'm going to try to make this technology behave.

682
00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:15,690
I understand you have the presentation on screens in front of you.

683
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:18,120
Yeah, OK.

684
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
So let's see if this will actually work.

685
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,180
Nope.

686
00:57:26,140 --> 00:57:26,640
There we go.

687
00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:34,220
Okay. You're going to get well more than a study from here because we've been studying

688
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:38,540
the history and I know I've got 10 minutes, so this has got to go pretty quickly.

689
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,760
We've been studying the history since we started this project. You have absolutely fascinating

690
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:49,860
history and going all the way from 1690 to today. I mean it's just, it's amazing. And we work with

691
00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:58,660
a lot of historic small towns and fields that have such a continuum that can be featured.

692
00:58:00,460 --> 00:58:04,920
So the feasibility study is actually going to result in a plan that's going to make

693
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,040
don't freeze a destination.

694
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,040
I'm a planner, I had learned economic development at the World Bank and it been in tourism

695
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,180
for about 30 years.

696
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:17,740
It's foundational to economic development, absolutely foundational.

697
00:58:17,740 --> 00:58:32,300
And so, what we're going to be doing is helping you be not just to place the past through by making the town able to tell its history and building it into the town where we can do that.

698
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:43,960
So, highlight of this one implementation of a robust tourism development plan, a tourism marketing plan, a tourism effort will actually support all elements of the vision in the plan.

699
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:44,740
It's

700
00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:51,490
also a way to implement the residence priorities.

701
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:58,190
We read that residents express downtown Frishod Lane into a historic character, potential

702
00:58:58,190 --> 00:59:02,770
for economic growth through cultural and commercial development, focused on creating arts,

703
00:59:03,130 --> 00:59:03,510
Mainstrate.

704
00:59:04,590 --> 00:59:10,090
And so a portion of the plan will focus on ways in which to turn Mainstrate into a historic

705
00:59:10,090 --> 00:59:17,590
corridor that tells the story of Dumperies from 1694, and more visitors attract more

706
00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:25,630
restaurants and boutique shopping and those are usually benefit to the community residents as well.

707
00:59:28,460 --> 00:59:31,560
So what do visitors bring to down for each?

708
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,440
Unencumbered tax revenues that you can use however you want to use them because you don't have to build

709
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,620
hospitals and schools or anything else for visitors they don't need to create services.

710
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:49,300
So there are money that you can spend on helping your community residents or children or anything else that you choose to do.

711
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:59,860
More meals and restaurants, shoppers, stores, hotel stays and as I said, they're foundational to attracting new residents because nobody

712
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,980
And they look at what it's going to be like to live here and not just any business incentives, et cetera.

713
01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:15,660
So, an attractive and thriving downtown, may also attract new residents who visit put it in a, considered moving to don't freeze.

714
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:26,030
And moving on, visitor market for town freezes absolutely huge.

715
01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:34,570
You sit in the middle of 65 million people in the typical driving radius to a destination.

716
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:43,510
That is more than we normally find, but you're in the middle of a number of metropolitan areas.

717
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:46,730
And 81% of those adults travel.

718
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:51,190
This is the most educated and a fluent visitor market in the United States.

719
01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:54,530
You could not be placed any better than you are.

720
01:00:54,530 --> 01:01:01,870
There's also 62 million heritage tourism visitors in the U.S. and they travel all over the place.

721
01:01:02,730 --> 01:01:06,110
Economic conditions don't stop these people from traveling.

722
01:01:07,770 --> 01:01:18,750
They have, they need regular breaks to go somewhere, take leisure time, relax and think about something other than work.

723
01:01:18,750 --> 01:01:25,730
And they engage in a story to engage their minds and disconnect from their work.

724
01:01:26,530 --> 01:01:31,150
So they're educated, they want to understand the history, they want to read about the history,

725
01:01:31,230 --> 01:01:34,790
they want to get involved in actually what the story is.

726
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:43,920
The study will illustrate the potential impact of the visitor's deliveries.

727
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:51,800
And what we will do through it is we're going to be, we're going to be able, putting together

728
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:58,900
economic business case for you to be able to go to shops and restaurant owners and, you know,

729
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:05,900
other investors in the town and also try to help the residents understand that visitors are

730
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:07,140
an economic asset.

731
01:02:09,340 --> 01:02:13,400
So that they, so that everybody can understand and be welcoming them.

732
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:26,480
What other usable and useful information will the study deliver? We don't just do studies and

733
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:32,320
strategies. Some of us have been doing this kind of thing for over 30 years. We've been

734
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:38,620
in the jobs. I've done this as an actual professional for three years in the town. And

735
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:48,400
we need to deliver you an actual implementable work product so that you have a roadmap to start

736
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:55,940
with what you can and can do and then move on from there.

737
01:02:56,260 --> 01:03:01,280
So that's going to include targeting visitor markets, tours and development, plan and marketing

738
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:09,780
plan, plan of how to organize and manage a tours method and an action plan that tells

739
01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:16,520
what has to happen monthly quarterly and annually to accomplish the goals that we will

740
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,900
helps set together.

741
01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:21,940
So the town's going to receive all this specific information.

742
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,400
Plus, more specific useful information.

743
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:36,640
What we envision is you have a lot of historical markers

744
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,220
and all that.

745
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,340
We've tracked that there are 26 around town.

746
01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:41,440
We've actually found that they all exist there.

747
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,840
But you only got six, I start building still standing in various places, and so we're looking

748
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:57,060
for locations around town where we can build the story into town, so they'll get visitors

749
01:03:57,060 --> 01:04:04,140
through, and things like a walking tour, we're actually going to lay one out, the stops

750
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:10,940
for a potential on the right bus tour, descriptions of the little locations on all of those

751
01:04:10,940 --> 01:04:13,520
All of those places, potential locations

752
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,060
are start trails, links to the current trail

753
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:17,280
and greenway plans.

754
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:21,660
And then today's visitors are busy.

755
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,900
So basically, I tend to reason and trails

756
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:30,160
that will connect you with the surrounding in a 30 mile

757
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,540
radius, because travelers will go 30 miles from a home base

758
01:04:34,820 --> 01:04:37,980
to explore something they want to.

759
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:40,360
And so all trails can lead to dumpries.

760
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:54,540
within that 30 mile radius, you all have 340 other historic sites that is absolutely amazing, but don't

761
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:11,900
Then we'll get that kind of wealth of, so the itineraries and such will connect all those other towns and then comes through here so that we can have tourism coming in.

762
01:05:12,260 --> 01:05:23,600
And the historic district application, if we can do find enough complying properties because you have to have more complying properties than not, if we do that.

763
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,240
That's basically a preservation district.

764
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:34,720
There are all kinds of other economic financial types of arrangements that you also can do.

765
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:43,020
And one of the things I want to make clear is that heritage and cultural tourism visitors

766
01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:48,540
aren't going to all of a sudden, there's not going to be this huge influx over running the town.

767
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:56,700
This kind of builds and builds and builds, so you'll be able to create the capacity of the same time that tourism is growing.

768
01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:07,660
So our role of the sleeves approach as a big car, if we spend the time necessary to get the work done, the spreadsheet indicates 512 hours.

769
01:06:08,220 --> 01:06:14,160
It'll probably be more than that, because we're a big car, we will only build the knot to exceed.

770
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,000
We involve, there's 14 of us scattered around the United States.

771
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:20,720
I happen to be the CEO of those wonderful people.

772
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,620
And we involve other people with the expertise as we need them.

773
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,280
Significant county or community engagement.

774
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:36,700
Devon I will be back on the 14th, 15th and 16th and literally one's top people.

775
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:40,300
That's how we find out what people's aspirations are.

776
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:42,920
And those are very, very important to any project.

777
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:49,640
There's important to success, and we're going to have to do considerable digging in historical

778
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:55,460
records to make sure that we're able to unearth all the real history.

779
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Action Plan, that's feasible, doable, and implementable, and ever clientely help find

780
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:07,880
money because the plan is only a plan until there's funding, so that's one of the things

781
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,320
that we're pretty well known for.

782
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:12,280
Whoops.

783
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,960
There was a last one on there.

784
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,800
This is your project.

785
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,280
We bring the experience to help make it successful

786
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,000
and we specialize in assisting small towns and communities.

787
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,600
Increase their economic prospects.

788
01:07:29,140 --> 01:07:30,300
You all are way.

789
01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:34,230
I have some of the situations we get involved in.

790
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:39,970
and have lots of opportunity and capacity to move forward.

791
01:07:41,110 --> 01:07:42,830
Any and all questions are okay.

792
01:07:43,550 --> 01:07:45,030
All right, council, any questions?

793
01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:46,710
Thank you very much.

794
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:48,390
Thank you, Mayor.

795
01:07:48,510 --> 01:07:49,230
Quick question.

796
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:52,890
How many of you said that need to complying locations?

797
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:55,750
How many locations are required for historic district application?

798
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:56,650
Pardon me.

799
01:07:57,310 --> 01:08:00,650
You were saying that you need to complying locations.

800
01:08:00,650 --> 01:08:04,810
If we do a formalized historic district.

801
01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:10,050
Okay, so how many are required to have a historic location?

802
01:08:10,050 --> 01:08:12,310
Any specific number you just have?

803
01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:14,650
That's the nature of the mic so they can hear you.

804
01:08:14,830 --> 01:08:15,510
Well, I'm sorry.

805
01:08:17,470 --> 01:08:25,490
You just have to have complying structures,

806
01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:30,390
and then there has to be more of those than non complying structures

807
01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:32,750
because every historic town has not

808
01:08:32,750 --> 01:08:34,470
complying as well as complying.

809
01:08:34,830 --> 01:08:35,690
Right, and that's what they're asking is

810
01:08:35,690 --> 01:08:38,270
how many are required for you to have it?

811
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:40,170
There's no specific number.

812
01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:46,030
You can have four complying and three not.

813
01:08:46,510 --> 01:08:48,750
They're just has to be the majority of complying.

814
01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:49,190
Okay.

815
01:08:49,690 --> 01:08:49,850
All right.

816
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:50,450
Thank you.

817
01:08:51,230 --> 01:08:51,690
So I have a second.

818
01:08:55,090 --> 01:08:56,350
Any other questions?

819
01:08:58,290 --> 01:08:59,670
Thank you for your presentation.

820
01:09:00,590 --> 01:09:11,870
I'm curious, I guess at the end of a study like this, what are three things that you hope a community can do when they're finished with one of your studies?

821
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,200
It's definitely dumb for you. What are three things you hope for us at the end of the study?

822
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:29,160
I appreciate the whole scope of your history and have everybody embrace it and be proud of the continuum and diversity and all the other things that this has.

823
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:40,180
this town has from his historic standpoint. Second of all, there's a sort of recognition that

824
01:09:40,180 --> 01:09:48,300
the more places you tell the story in town, the more the more story you can tell and the more people

825
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:56,660
will actually get out walk around interact and such. And the third one, we want you to be successful

826
01:09:56,660 --> 01:09:59,980
on tours. That's the whole point of all.

827
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:13,620
This is your town. The economic prosperity that visitors can deliver is foundational to diversifying

828
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:17,040
the tax base and all of those other things that can happen.

829
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:20,380
So I guess what that being said,

830
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:26,590
what should the public investment be versus, what should

831
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:34,830
philanthropic, you know, whatever, like what's the, the mix of investment should there be.

832
01:10:35,090 --> 01:10:38,590
For brothers or not, until we get away further into it.

833
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:39,070
All right.

834
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:41,750
But you want to, you want to get there.

835
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:42,610
This is Virginia.

836
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:44,890
They take pretty good care of historic resource,

837
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:47,210
and else have a competent tourism department.

838
01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:50,630
And so you want to tap their resources as much as possible.

839
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:56,570
They've got funding programs and all kinds of a major major promotional effort.

840
01:10:56,570 --> 01:11:03,030
that they're really good at. So, no, I mean, we appreciate you because I believe our history can't

841
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:07,030
just be something we preserve. It has to be something that people experience. Absolutely.

842
01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:13,450
Duffers was the county seat. You know, so we have this site for the old historic courthouse. We

843
01:11:13,450 --> 01:11:19,190
we had a major port that used to rival Baltimore Philadelphia with the tundit to tobacco. So,

844
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:24,690
I'd love to help with some kind of re-enactment on the new property. I mean, there are so as

845
01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:32,310
Mr. Vine said earlier there's so few of that kind of thing actually in the area something that gets people involved in understanding

846
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:37,850
What when you were to back up for it and that was as important as New York and Philadelphia

847
01:11:39,130 --> 01:11:42,050
How do we show that in in living history?

848
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:47,370
So thank you. I'm looking forward to your your reporting is steady. Oh, sorry

849
01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:50,730
You got another one council repeat sorry. Thank you, Mr. Mayor

850
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,480
As I look at this report

851
01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:59,400
When I was reviewing it, a couple of days ago,

852
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,200
it kind of upset me a little bit.

853
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:07,140
I'm sorry, can you speak up so I can hear you?

854
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,420
When I was looking at this report a couple of days ago,

855
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:13,200
it kind of upset me a little bit.

856
01:12:14,420 --> 01:12:16,900
And when I listen to you historians come up here

857
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:19,380
and speak on the history of the town of Dumfries,

858
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800
it always starts with a port.

859
01:12:24,090 --> 01:12:26,450
As I've dug into the history of the Dumfries,

860
01:12:26,450 --> 01:12:30,630
The history of Dumfries doesn't stop with a port.

861
01:12:32,210 --> 01:12:37,410
The history of Dumfries started with the Doe and the Potomac Indians that were here before.

862
01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:38,910
Can you agree?

863
01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:45,530
So it bothers me when I see stuff like this.

864
01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:55,530
It bothers me when I count 39 car cages on a presentation and I see one black lady here in

865
01:12:55,530 --> 01:13:00,530
a back picture with her back turn that bothers me.

866
01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:03,650
Oh, I said, if there's a chance that you guys

867
01:13:03,650 --> 01:13:05,370
were able to present to us again,

868
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:07,810
that we have some diversity within our presentation.

869
01:13:11,150 --> 01:13:16,370
Certainly so, and we're back to the back to the mic, sorry.

870
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:18,610
With that, Mr. Mayor.

871
01:13:18,670 --> 01:13:19,490
I'm sorry.

872
01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:20,150
I'm sorry.

873
01:13:21,390 --> 01:13:24,450
There was no fence whatsoever intended

874
01:13:24,450 --> 01:13:36,520
with that break. I be honest. My own family, we have five adopted none, Caucasian children.

875
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,520
That's, that's fine, man, but I'm speaking up when you guys, when you historicians come

876
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:48,200
up here and present to us. We don't know that you have five. We understand that and we're

877
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:53,620
going all the way back to the Native Americans. Can we please start, I mean, that that, that

878
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:59,760
or here. Yes. Oh, because that was the start. That's where you're, that's where the years, that's

879
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:05,420
when the first settlers moved in here, there was African American, American communities

880
01:14:05,420 --> 01:14:11,280
in this area. Yeah, we talk, yes, ma'am, let's talk. Yeah. So, yes, that's part of the diversity.

881
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:20,900
And your town is incredibly diverse. But we're incredibly cognitive, so many mentioned

882
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:33,120
We put together the heritage and underground railroad by Wayne Pennsylvania, and we're told basically that we were not allowed to tell all those stories and we said, that's the story.

883
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:37,890
You guys were told, it's y'all can tell those stories?

884
01:14:38,490 --> 01:14:39,030
Pardon me.

885
01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:41,410
Yeah.

886
01:14:41,410 --> 01:14:48,070
And we did, we put together 10 documents, stories that were incredibly impactful, the told

887
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:53,350
the real story, and they've been phenomenally well received.

888
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:59,890
Okay, well, like I said, if there's ever a chance to present.

889
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,540
If you guys could please bring back the original beginning history, we will do that, because that's

890
01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:12,820
part of the campaign, you need to you need to tell in the town.

891
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,020
Thank you for coming with a forward to seeing you. With that said, I'm going to take a five-minute

892
01:15:18,020 --> 01:15:21,080
stretch back from breaking. We'll come back, recess.

893
01:22:32,140 --> 01:22:46,840
All right, next in the agenda, we'll have Prince William County Water come on up to the podium. The floor is yours. As here about all it is, good work you've done in our community. We saw the roads tour. We saw and put that together.

894
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,820
All right, and now we're excited to hear a data on where we are.

895
01:22:51,120 --> 01:23:00,080
Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor, and members of the Council. Thanks for inviting us to share with you to introduce you or maybe remind you about Prince William Water.

896
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:05,140
My name is Don Panel, I'm the Deputy General Manager and Chief Operations Officer at Prince William Water.

897
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:12,000
I want to acknowledge to my really sharp colleagues, Michelle Miranda and Ronnie Avelos, who are here as well.

898
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:22,280
So I'm just going to touch on a few things about Prince William Water and give you a few resources and certainly give you some places you can connect with us.

899
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,800
Because there's a lot we can talk about and I want to respect your time this evening.

900
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:45,060
Our mission is a little bit unique, we're a water utility, and we take a lot of pride in running a very professional organization, you want us to run a professional organization to make sure we deliver clean water to you and your citizens every day.

901
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:53,080
You want to make sure we run a utility in a sustainable way. At the same time, we have a critical public health mission.

902
01:23:53,080 --> 01:24:06,160
We protect public health and the environment, so we're the only utility that delivers a product to your home that you ingest and it affects your health personally, so we take that responsibility very, very seriously.

903
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:22,740
We'll leave you with these slides because I know there's a lot of small print on this slide, but what this slide illustrates is the immense investment and infrastructure that it takes to run a well-run water and wastewater utility.

904
01:24:22,740 --> 01:24:30,200
you see in the upper right corner $1.2 billion worth of assets, that's book value, our replacement

905
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:37,360
value for all those pipes and pumps and tanks is probably close to $3 billion. That's a significant

906
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:46,240
amount of infrastructure that goes into delivering great service to you. The mayor had asked us

907
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:51,100
to remind you where your water comes from in the town of Dumfries, so I want to take a minute

908
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:55,580
talk about it because it's a really interesting story and it's important. We'd like to

909
01:24:55,580 --> 01:24:59,960
use this phrase from source to tap and back again if you track.

910
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:08,080
Back this graphic, our water that we originally pull comes from the Potomac River, up near Ashburn actually.

911
01:25:08,740 --> 01:25:15,640
That water is treated delivered to homes in western Pennsylvania County, then that wastewater is collected,

912
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:23,460
treated at a state-of-the-art wastewater treatment facility in Cinerville, returned to the Aquan reservoir,

913
01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:29,300
where that water is then withdrawn again at the Griffith Water Treatment Plant over in

914
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:34,980
Lorton and delivered to eastern Prince William County here in Dumfries included.

915
01:25:35,820 --> 01:25:42,380
And then we treat that wastewater after it's used in homes at our mooney advanced water

916
01:25:42,380 --> 01:25:47,120
reclamation facility on Ripon Boulevard and return it back to the Potomac River.

917
01:25:47,340 --> 01:25:53,000
So that same water makes a very long and crucial journey from the Potomac River

918
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:57,600
to serve homes through the aquaquan and then back to the Potomac River.

919
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:06,180
We've just come through the summer and you heard probably a lot of conversation about drought.

920
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:12,720
So I wanted to, I know this is a really, this, this, this heart can you back to high school science, probably.

921
01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:18,900
So, um, so give me a little grace on that, but what I wanted to illustrate with this and I probably don't have a pointer,

922
01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:26,260
but while we're sitting here in the town of Dumfries and enjoying great drinking water,

923
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:33,640
what's crucial for us in terms of drought is actually the rainfall that falls in West Virginia,

924
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:38,700
Western Maryland and the Western part in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.

925
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:47,060
So all that watershed feeds the Potomac River. So when we're concerned about drought, we're actually

926
01:26:47,060 --> 01:26:51,540
not concerned about how much rainfall is falling here in Prince William County.

927
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,180
We're concerned about how much rainfall is falling far west in the head waters of the

928
01:26:57,180 --> 01:26:57,920
Psyllumac River.

929
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,140
I know that causes some confusion for people, but this is a regional system and you can

930
01:27:05,140 --> 01:27:06,840
see at the little note there.

931
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:13,420
The Potomac watershed covers 11th over 11,000 square miles, primarily in the west, and

932
01:27:13,420 --> 01:27:15,600
services are drinking water source primarily.

933
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,480
I'll skip past this. This is a great resource for you

934
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:26,680
to chew on in the future, but just emphasizes our key role in the health of the Chesapeake Bay.

935
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,460
If you've tracked the amazing rebound of the health of the Chesapeake Bay, we're proud to have been

936
01:27:33,460 --> 01:27:40,560
a strong part of that for over 40 years. The work we've done at our advanced water reclamation facility,

937
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,280
just up the road here is absolutely phenomenal.

938
01:27:44,460 --> 01:27:46,160
We're very proud of our role.

939
01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:52,750
Again, protecting water quality is paramount.

940
01:27:53,630 --> 01:27:59,830
We're, we put a ton of emphasis on drinking water quality and wastewater compliance.

941
01:27:59,830 --> 01:28:01,550
You can see there, there's top two bullets.

942
01:28:02,430 --> 01:28:07,370
We have 100% drinking water compliance and 100% water, wastewater permit compliance.

943
01:28:07,870 --> 01:28:10,510
I'll touch on that permit compliance a little bit more.

944
01:28:10,510 --> 01:28:13,730
But the other things I wanted to highlight on this slide

945
01:28:13,730 --> 01:28:16,470
are that we really rely on partnerships,

946
01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:18,850
partnerships with you here in the town,

947
01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:22,310
partnerships with our regulators in Richmond

948
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:26,310
and across the state, partnerships with Fairfax Water,

949
01:28:26,890 --> 01:28:30,290
who is just an absolutely essential partner for us,

950
01:28:30,510 --> 01:28:32,670
a couple of highlights in recent years.

951
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:34,930
If you've tracked the news,

952
01:28:35,150 --> 01:28:37,390
there are emerging water quality challenges.

953
01:28:38,110 --> 01:28:46,150
As we learn more about water quality, that affords us the opportunity to face new challenges.

954
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:48,470
One of those new challenges is called PFAS.

955
01:28:49,010 --> 01:28:56,030
If you've seen headlines about forever chemicals, I won't try to pronounce what PFAS stands for.

956
01:28:57,290 --> 01:29:01,490
But it's an important constituent that is in many pharmaceuticals.

957
01:29:02,110 --> 01:29:03,030
It's in your mascara.

958
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:10,690
It's in your fast food wrappers, and once it's in the environment, it persists, hence the name of forever chemical.

959
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:19,030
We are taking real active steps with our partners to protect the aquacone from PFAS contamination.

960
01:29:20,410 --> 01:29:31,950
And we're happy to say we got a house bill passed two years ago of house bill 2050, which takes steps far beyond what the EPA is implementing to make sure we protect the aquacone.

961
01:29:31,950 --> 01:29:34,930
That's stewards of that essential resource.

962
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:38,310
You got a QR code there at the bottom.

963
01:29:38,490 --> 01:29:40,970
We invite you to hit that anytime you want.

964
01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:44,730
We publish a lot of great information about our water quality.

965
01:29:45,850 --> 01:29:48,150
And we're also, there's plenty of links on there.

966
01:29:48,250 --> 01:29:51,150
We're happy to talk to you if you've got questions about our water quality.

967
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:54,490
Anything you've read in the headline and you want to know what's going on.

968
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:57,070
We want to make sure you have the latest information.

969
01:29:58,450 --> 01:29:59,930
Um...

970
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,220
In addition to running a great water utility, which I'm proud to say we do, we take our role as environmental

971
01:30:07,220 --> 01:30:14,540
ambassadors really seriously as well. A couple of the campaigns that we're really promoting,

972
01:30:14,540 --> 01:30:20,220
Michelle and her team doing an amazing job of getting the word out through social media, through

973
01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:28,600
school platforms. Don't flush the wipes. We're operating a lot of infrastructure. I talked about

974
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:35,200
dollars invested in the pipes and pumps. Those flushable wipes are not flushable. They create

975
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:40,440
incredible maintenance problems for us. So we're trying to get the word out. We find this to be

976
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:45,180
really effective to get the word to the kids and the kids influence the behavior of the parents.

977
01:30:47,060 --> 01:30:52,940
Another one of our standard campaigns when winter becomes, we don't want your pipes to freeze.

978
01:30:53,020 --> 01:30:58,580
We want you to know how to take care of your home premise plumbing. So we put a lot of emphasis on

979
01:30:59,500 --> 01:31:03,040
I want to spend a second talking about salt smart.

980
01:31:04,660 --> 01:31:08,480
One of the threats to freshwater all across the U.S.

981
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,820
and, frankly, across the world is salonization.

982
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:17,800
The use of salts by humans releases salt into the environment.

983
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,120
Once that salt is in drinking water, it stays.

984
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,840
You can't make salty water unsalted.

985
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:31,640
You can treat the water, but the aquacuan, as a prime example, has an increasing level of salts.

986
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:38,580
It's not a problem today, it won't be a problem tomorrow, but 50 years from now it will be a problem if we don't change some behaviors.

987
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:53,820
One of the primary sources of salts and salinization in the aquacuan is winter deicing activities over 50% of the salt load that comes into the aquacuan comes from road salting for winter deicing.

988
01:31:55,220 --> 01:32:01,100
So, we've got to put some emphasis on some best practices and find some product substitutions.

989
01:32:01,540 --> 01:32:05,860
So, this is a campaign you're going to see us hit for many years to come.

990
01:32:06,060 --> 01:32:08,980
So, we try to change some behaviors around salt.

991
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:16,500
A lot of activity, I won't spend a lot of time, but I do want to hit the last bullet here

992
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:20,420
that advanced water reclamation facility on Ripon Boulevard,

993
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:23,900
it's called the Monit Plant, it's a state of the art plant.

994
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:29,120
It has achieved perfect permit compliance for 17 straight years.

995
01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:34,460
Some of you are familiar when a child is born and you say,

996
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,280
oh, it's a healthy baby that's in the 99th percentile.

997
01:32:37,540 --> 01:32:41,880
Well, our 17 year perfect permit compliance puts that plant

998
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:49,220
in the 99.5% of top-performing water plants in the country.

999
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,300
So we're super proud of what we're doing there.

1000
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:56,760
It's got a lot of work going on there right now about $178 million investment

1001
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:01,340
to make sure that that plant is there for the next decades to come.

1002
01:33:01,580 --> 01:33:05,280
Just a few pictures of some of the incredible work going on there.

1003
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,860
And just really proud of that work.

1004
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:12,580
All the while, we're still maintaining perfect permit

1005
01:33:12,580 --> 01:33:13,100
compliance.

1006
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,420
If you've ever had renovations, furniture, house,

1007
01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:17,980
you can know it's hard to run a home

1008
01:33:17,980 --> 01:33:19,500
when the kitchen's torn up,

1009
01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:21,540
but that's exactly what we're doing there at that plant.

1010
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,720
Here's some ways you can connect with us.

1011
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,120
We're always there through various platforms.

1012
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,500
I see my times about to run out.

1013
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:34,700
So please contact us whenever you've got questions,

1014
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:40,340
So we're there for you, certainly happy to answer any questions or touch on any topics that

1015
01:33:40,340 --> 01:33:41,060
are of interest.

1016
01:33:43,970 --> 01:33:44,270
All right.

1017
01:33:44,750 --> 01:33:46,730
Council, what do you use it?

1018
01:33:46,730 --> 01:33:47,590
Hard water.

1019
01:33:48,610 --> 01:33:51,610
I've got a lot of people in my community talking about this water.

1020
01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:56,370
Is this what we're drinking and do you have any solutions on what we can do to correct it?

1021
01:33:56,450 --> 01:33:59,090
Are you planning on correcting it or anything like that?

1022
01:33:59,090 --> 01:34:04,410
The water that we pull from the aquan is slightly hard, is not considered extremely

1023
01:34:04,410 --> 01:34:10,510
hard if if you've got some premise plumbing with some age that could be contributing we're happy

1024
01:34:10,510 --> 01:34:17,150
to come down and do a sample and try to give you some advice. Water softening on the premise

1025
01:34:17,150 --> 01:34:24,450
is an option for some people but we caution that that's an expense first of all and if they're

1026
01:34:24,450 --> 01:34:29,630
not maintained properly they can actually cause a degradation degradation of the water quality.

1027
01:34:29,630 --> 01:34:33,870
So, happy to speak with it, to take our customers.

1028
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:36,950
It's all of us, and we're pretty new.

1029
01:34:37,050 --> 01:34:38,510
I'm here in the Highland Park area.

1030
01:34:38,650 --> 01:34:40,730
I think I've been here for maybe five years,

1031
01:34:40,890 --> 01:34:43,050
and it's been like this since I've been there.

1032
01:34:44,970 --> 01:34:49,530
What kind of symptoms are you seeing?

1033
01:34:50,530 --> 01:34:51,610
That I mean feel different.

1034
01:34:51,710 --> 01:34:54,970
I can clean that toilet three times,

1035
01:34:55,230 --> 01:34:57,050
and it's brown all the way around.

1036
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:59,970
As soon as I come back up, the water is big.

1037
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:10,040
All right, I just hope that's not what I'm thinking. But I think we need to investigate that. Is it up as our brown or is it a pink blue always not pink.

1038
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:11,400
Okay.

1039
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:17,320
I don't think brown was pink. Yes, no, it's not pink. It's like a rust color. It's bad in area.

1040
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:24,200
Yeah. I don't know if it's here, but I know in Highland Park it's terrible. And it's like a community thing that we go outside and talk about.

1041
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:34,100
So, I mean, I've tried every time, follow up on that, follow up on that, and send some technicians out to take a look and try to understand what's going on there.

1042
01:35:34,380 --> 01:35:37,580
But I don't know, I don't think it's just how the park does anybody else have the problem.

1043
01:35:37,940 --> 01:35:38,280
Yes, yes.

1044
01:35:38,440 --> 01:35:38,520
Yeah.

1045
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,180
Same thing over here.

1046
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:40,700
Okay.

1047
01:35:40,780 --> 01:35:43,840
So that's how I mean, I want you to come to how the park is.

1048
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,140
Sure.

1049
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,180
I think it's the whole area.

1050
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:47,340
Okay.

1051
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:54,260
Yeah, I'm not recalling complaints or concerns.

1052
01:35:54,580 --> 01:36:01,180
Certainly we do our annual flushing program and don't know any special concerns, but certainly

1053
01:36:01,180 --> 01:36:02,700
we want to investigate that.

1054
01:36:02,700 --> 01:36:04,340
Okay, thank you.

1055
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:06,540
Jasmy Pete.

1056
01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:08,020
Pete Faest.

1057
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:09,420
Yeah.

1058
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,260
Put it in.

1059
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,220
I remember reading up on this sometime last year.

1060
01:36:13,220 --> 01:36:22,760
the portfolio, floor rides, soil, the KYL, that's how it does happen. Pretty much identified it.

1061
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:29,420
But my take on it is one thing, and it was always my concern, because you did hit on it,

1062
01:36:29,460 --> 01:36:33,840
and you spoke on to the winterization, right? And when we use them these salt,

1063
01:36:34,220 --> 01:36:39,220
and my only question is, have you heard or know of any other methods that has been

1064
01:36:39,220 --> 01:36:47,080
has been talked about or become an address to counter what we currently use at now across the

1065
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:55,380
whole nation pretty much. So V dot at the direction of the state general assembly V dot prepared

1066
01:36:55,380 --> 01:37:02,260
a pretty good study handful of years ago to look at alternatives to traditional rock salt.

1067
01:37:02,260 --> 01:37:09,100
There are some, you see the white lines on the roads during the winter that VDOT uses.

1068
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:15,760
VDOT really does take steps to try to minimize the excess salt that's used.

1069
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:21,500
But even the beet juice that they're using that causes those lines contains chlorides.

1070
01:37:21,860 --> 01:37:26,940
So when that beet juice washes off, it's still adding to the salt content, not to the extent

1071
01:37:26,940 --> 01:37:28,040
that the rock salt does.

1072
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:58,120
Okay, so look at my, my, my, my apology for cutting you right there, but did you, you just do another one in there beat juice and we, I remember time as we spoke about this last year, would you recommend beat juice or priming I am not the experts, okay, okay, the best practice that V dot is using is to use the beat juice in lieu of traditional rock salt, okay, so, so I, you know, I certainly, we follow those recommendations.

1073
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:06,860
things. The thing I highlight though is that about 50% of the pavement sidewalks, parking lots,

1074
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:12,060
are not VDOT streets. They're private streets, so we really got to get those best practices

1075
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:21,520
to, you know, all the apartment complex is the shopping centers. And just as me personally talking,

1076
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:27,080
And I think we're going to have to grapple with, do we have to have every road cleared within

1077
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,360
four hours of the storm?

1078
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:35,960
Or can we have a balance between how much salt we applied to the roads and whatever

1079
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:44,220
form versus, and certainly we're all about safety, but maybe in time there's a balance between

1080
01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:47,520
staying home for a few hours versus a plan of salts.

1081
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:56,460
Okay, all right, thank you very much for the presentation and also taking a next step measure to look into what we're drinking

1082
01:38:57,780 --> 01:39:04,460
And also as we're preparing for upcoming winter months as well. So again, thank you. And with that Mr. Mayor, are you?

1083
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:12,540
Thank you for really taking the time to really come out. And I know

1084
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,640
especially in my work in like African-American mayors. I'm on the infrastructure and transportation.

1085
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:26,460
I know a lot of people don't look at water as infrastructure. Most of people look at roads and buildings and stuff.

1086
01:39:26,940 --> 01:39:34,520
One of the things I'm hearing from other mayors and other localities is they don't have the money to replace that infrastructure.

1087
01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:40,440
And they're struggling to, I mean, we see what happened in Flint, Jackson, Mississippi,

1088
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,680
with some of those localities with their infrastructure.

1089
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,280
I mean, within the last 10 years, you're going to have went through and replaced all of those

1090
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:56,340
pipes and make sure that our PSI is great, make sure that our pipes are much better.

1091
01:39:56,740 --> 01:39:59,860
And so we appreciate the money and investment.

1092
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,720
Yep, we have seen an increase in our water bills. But we understand, you know, that's the cost of

1093
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:12,880
doing business, right, of replacing that infrastructure and going out there. So it beats the

1094
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:21,760
alternative of what we've seen. So I just appreciate the proactive work you're doing as I get

1095
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:27,500
to see kind of in here from other locality. So I, and I hear some of their problems and I see how far

1096
01:40:27,500 --> 01:40:32,720
ahead. We are in doing the work. So I just wanted to, you know, just give you that

1097
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,960
observation from serving on some of those committees to see. I appreciate that.

1098
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,860
Appreciate that. All right. Thank you very much.

1099
01:40:42,020 --> 01:40:50,800
All right. Next on our agenda is the

1100
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,460
I'll see.

1101
01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:46,500
Did he ask Paul in the policy of you guys of all of a copy of the recent

1102
01:41:46,500 --> 01:41:47,040
policy?

1103
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:52,180
Do you guys want to cover everything or do you guys have questions about the new policy?

1104
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,880
So the first change that we did was change the policy number.

1105
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,540
should have been 427, instead of 428,

1106
01:42:10,150 --> 01:42:14,610
the audit, the audit trail, obviously is the hot topic,

1107
01:42:14,810 --> 01:42:20,770
a lot of stuff in the, in the system for, I'll see, I don't know if you guys seen the news

1108
01:42:20,770 --> 01:42:27,710
where a flock of change, their policy to 7, 7 days, that's for moving forward, I think 21 days

1109
01:42:27,710 --> 01:42:33,550
is still a good policy to have just because if you leave for vacation for 7 to 10 days, you

1110
01:42:33,550 --> 01:42:37,710
I don't know how college to want to have that stuff as something was to happen in your house during that time period.

1111
01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:43,510
So I think it's important to stay with the 21 day policy for us.

1112
01:42:46,930 --> 01:42:54,340
We took out probable calls for number four upon receiving an LPR alert.

1113
01:42:54,340 --> 01:42:55,560
It's a reasonable suspicion

1114
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:06,380
under E and immediately new or expanded products or capabilities may not be activated

1115
01:43:06,380 --> 01:43:08,540
if merely because they are offered by the vendor,

1116
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,940
they must be purchased or otherwise authored

1117
01:43:10,940 --> 01:43:13,640
and undergo appropriate administrative legal policy

1118
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,800
and an required town council review.

1119
01:43:19,890 --> 01:43:22,990
Also given under access and queries,

1120
01:43:23,290 --> 01:43:25,150
the town manager may be granted administrative oversight

1121
01:43:25,150 --> 01:43:27,150
access after completing the required training

1122
01:43:27,150 --> 01:43:29,330
such access or we limited to a program oversight,

1123
01:43:29,470 --> 01:43:34,570
all to review, authorized use of review, policy compliance,

1124
01:43:35,330 --> 01:43:38,790
and system configuration review, administrative access,

1125
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:41,870
should not authorize investigative services and list the services independently

1126
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:46,330
prepared, committed by law and this policy and is inducted for a document

1127
01:43:46,330 --> 01:43:52,350
at legitimate law enforcement purpose. So there is three, three ways that you have

1128
01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:56,890
to put in the system to view it. You have to put in a place for a report number as

1129
01:43:56,890 --> 01:44:02,870
well as the reason. So you have to, that's, that was another thing that was added

1130
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:06,030
when I met with, with Flock is you have to also put the reason is the third

1131
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:14,930
for what you're going to never first you get to have a report number that's in there, and the reason that you're also looking in there.

1132
01:44:16,740 --> 01:44:21,520
Vendor personnel should not independently search, use, disclose, retain, sell, or otherwise process,

1133
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:26,660
town, LPR data for an unauthorized purpose and so on comply with the applicable contractual

1134
01:44:26,660 --> 01:44:29,820
confidentiality cybersecurity retention and data breach requirements.

1135
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:38,700
State network under data share and statewide network access is currently disabled,

1136
01:44:38,700 --> 01:44:42,560
no future activation maker without documented the administrative legal policy

1137
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:48,700
for the duration of view and all approvals required by the policy or account council.

1138
01:44:54,020 --> 01:44:59,980
The public records under B, the final adopted LPR policy in a required annual report to the Virginia Department.

1139
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,040
And a state police should be posted publicly excluding all personal and case identifying information in any other information protected under Virginia law.

1140
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:24,600
If any automated, under D, if any automated audit assistance features activated the following, their appropriate administrative and legal review, the supplementation does not replace the required monthly supervisory audit.

1141
01:45:33,050 --> 01:45:35,910
Number seven under the program administration.

1142
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:42,130
The quarterly reporting to the chief of the police and town manager for distribution of town counts,

1143
01:45:42,370 --> 01:45:45,630
including appropriate measures such as alerts, stolen vehicle recoveries.

1144
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:51,010
One of our missing persons located investigations assisted arrested are charges associated with the LPR

1145
01:45:51,010 --> 01:45:57,780
assisted investigations on authorized access incidents and other appropriate performance measures.

1146
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:00,920
I'm going to ask you a question here.

1147
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:23,000
Do we have that current data now without that like do we have like what prompted the I guess the need for for the grant to create this policy do we have uptick and stolen vehicles in the town of Dumfries and and

1148
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:29,240
It was a fun necessarily an uptick in the town of Dumfries, but surrounded in the town of Dumfries and also recovered.

1149
01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:35,180
There was a uptick in recovery inside the town of Dumfries of the stolen vehicles.

1150
01:46:38,230 --> 01:46:43,430
Was there any public outreach done before we made this decision?

1151
01:46:43,850 --> 01:46:47,410
Yeah, so I met with H.O.A., met with churches and met with citizens.

1152
01:46:47,630 --> 01:46:49,310
I met with voters and met with taxpayers.

1153
01:46:49,630 --> 01:46:52,110
I met with businesses and met with all those people beforehand.

1154
01:46:52,110 --> 01:46:56,110
That's why all of our LPR's own private property would

1155
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:05,880
all these people that I spoke with gave permission with me explaining how the system would and what we would be using it for

1156
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:13,900
And we also covered them. I think the town hall and February

1157
01:47:15,470 --> 01:47:18,190
Councilman Phil, I'm glad to mention

1158
01:47:18,910 --> 01:47:22,690
the use of private property and extent that you went to

1159
01:47:22,690 --> 01:47:25,990
Have this access granite for us

1160
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:32,990
for the police department, and I'm saying us, because of us, the town, and the police department to use and access.

1161
01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:43,890
Indie event that the person that owns this private property doesn't want this on their property and the more.

1162
01:47:44,450 --> 01:47:48,330
What happens? What are the steps? They notify us, and they're taking down immediately.

1163
01:47:48,330 --> 01:47:57,710
Okay. So to satisfy the public and those questions, why aren't there, are they on

1164
01:47:57,710 --> 01:47:59,350
public property?

1165
01:48:00,510 --> 01:48:05,630
V dot, at this time, is not given permission for any black cameras to be put on.

1166
01:48:05,630 --> 01:48:07,130
Don't the point of the right ways.

1167
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:08,610
And that's what?

1168
01:48:08,990 --> 01:48:09,490
Let's say what?

1169
01:48:10,770 --> 01:48:15,330
So how many black cameras that you know of,

1170
01:48:15,930 --> 01:48:25,290
So, around the town of Delfarees, I think Prince William has 28 functional ones stand alone.

1171
01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:30,510
They have 10 flex ones or ones that can be deployed for a temporary, on a temporary basis.

1172
01:48:31,250 --> 01:48:32,530
And they have LP art on vehicles.

1173
01:48:32,730 --> 01:48:33,510
I don't know that number.

1174
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:35,230
And LP art is not a new technology.

1175
01:48:35,390 --> 01:48:36,510
Yeah, for years.

1176
01:48:37,230 --> 01:48:38,130
This is 1976.

1177
01:48:39,550 --> 01:48:41,650
So, I know there's a lot of complaints now, but this is new.

1178
01:48:41,650 --> 01:48:45,730
So for clarification, I got about eight fixed in the county.

1179
01:48:45,730 --> 01:48:46,830
There's a curve.

1180
01:48:46,930 --> 01:48:48,870
We got about 10 that they can move around.

1181
01:48:50,210 --> 01:48:52,990
And who knows how many did they have on cars driving around?

1182
01:48:53,710 --> 01:48:53,790
Right.

1183
01:48:53,790 --> 01:48:56,750
And those cars driving around, I usually law enforcement cars.

1184
01:48:57,250 --> 01:48:58,750
Try to get enforcement.

1185
01:49:00,230 --> 01:49:01,730
I think they're just trafficking.

1186
01:49:01,970 --> 01:49:02,090
I think they're just trafficking.

1187
01:49:02,530 --> 01:49:03,110
Please call us.

1188
01:49:03,250 --> 01:49:03,810
Please call us.

1189
01:49:05,570 --> 01:49:06,190
Stafford County.

1190
01:49:07,530 --> 01:49:08,390
I don't know. Stafford.

1191
01:49:09,050 --> 01:49:09,110
Okay.

1192
01:49:09,110 --> 01:49:15,070
All right. Any other counties that you can make in round 11 there's the state is pretty

1193
01:49:15,070 --> 01:49:21,770
pretty covered in cameras, LPR's and general as well as lock cameras. Yes, and as I was talking

1194
01:49:21,770 --> 01:49:28,470
earlier, even the county would at incident happen that with my grandmother they've gotten more

1195
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:36,250
sensitive. I wish we had more the time in that county. One day I didn't get to finish earlier

1196
01:49:36,250 --> 01:49:47,470
It was a time ran out, you know, public safety and cost 2,000 protections, did not have to be mutually exclusive.

1197
01:49:48,610 --> 01:49:52,710
Our responsibility is to make sure we have both.

1198
01:49:53,010 --> 01:49:57,970
I think everyone can agree with that, that we can get along with public safety.

1199
01:49:58,330 --> 01:49:59,510
We can get along with.

1200
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,580
Having these provisions and that, like I said earlier, anyone that violates this is not a slap on the wrist.

1201
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:19,580
You get a suspension or you get ridden up and you're going much day. I'm pretty sure that a valetion list will lead to termination, termination arches, and maybe federal charges.

1202
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:24,040
It's an interesting answer to the class one, Mr. Mayor, to misuse the technology.

1203
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,440
So they are our charges for it.

1204
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:28,560
Thank you.

1205
01:50:30,510 --> 01:50:35,390
All right. So before I make this motion, because I'm going to make a motion here.

1206
01:50:36,030 --> 01:50:40,410
I want to acknowledge, you know, what you're done and what the police department have done.

1207
01:50:40,750 --> 01:50:46,230
And I appreciate you pursuing the grant funding, looking for additional tools to keep them free

1208
01:50:46,230 --> 01:50:54,210
And we should always encourage our staff to continue to use our sort of resources to really strengthen the public safety.

1209
01:50:55,070 --> 01:50:59,990
But acquiring the tool and then deciding how that tool should operate in our community,

1210
01:51:00,610 --> 01:51:06,910
I think are two different questions, not just acquiring the tool, but talking about how this tool is to be used.

1211
01:51:08,030 --> 01:51:15,510
I've heard from residents in almost three or four different neighborhoods that feel like

1212
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:21,310
they didn't have a seat at the table or opportunity to have a conversation, they didn't have

1213
01:51:21,310 --> 01:51:25,570
opportunity to understand these cameras, they felt like they didn't have a chance to ask questions

1214
01:51:25,570 --> 01:51:32,810
or to provide input before they were installed, so I hear you say you talked to it, but I've been

1215
01:51:32,810 --> 01:51:37,890
out the last couple of weeks, I stood at the cameras. The revised policy before us tonight,

1216
01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:43,950
it's much stronger than the original policy you produce, and I appreciate the work that went into

1217
01:51:43,950 --> 01:51:47,230
and the privacy protections, I appreciate the audits in,

1218
01:51:47,290 --> 01:51:48,630
the sharing the training reconnaissance,

1219
01:51:48,810 --> 01:51:51,130
and even the council oversight that's in there.

1220
01:51:51,970 --> 01:51:57,630
But policy improvements, they don't erase the public

1221
01:51:57,630 --> 01:51:58,850
process concern.

1222
01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:01,830
And so there's a concern with the public process,

1223
01:52:02,030 --> 01:52:06,290
and technology should never move faster than public trust.

1224
01:52:07,090 --> 01:52:11,050
And the public right now doesn't trust the technology,

1225
01:52:11,050 --> 01:52:17,310
because the public doesn't feel like they were, they had to see that to table, they had a

1226
01:52:17,310 --> 01:52:23,910
participation to get that voice. I believe we can support our department, we can support public safety

1227
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:31,130
and still get residents a meaningful opportunity to participate in this decision. So I'm going to

1228
01:52:31,130 --> 01:52:37,130
move that the town immediately deactivate the flock license plate readers to prohibit collection

1229
01:52:37,130 --> 01:52:43,750
of any new LPR data and direct the town manager to conduct a public engagement process and then

1230
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:50,390
return to the council with options for removal, continue use, including all grant contract

1231
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:57,110
illegal fiscal so that the system should not be reactivated without subsequent council approval.

1232
01:52:58,490 --> 01:53:02,870
Okay, it's been motion and second now we'll have discussion council repeat.

1233
01:53:04,090 --> 01:53:06,530
Okay, thank you Mr. Mayor.

1234
01:53:07,550 --> 01:53:09,190
Oh, Chief, quick, quick question.

1235
01:53:10,170 --> 01:53:10,810
There's these.

1236
01:53:10,810 --> 01:53:11,870
You got to speak to the motion.

1237
01:53:12,090 --> 01:53:12,630
There's a motion.

1238
01:53:12,810 --> 01:53:14,330
So we even open the motion up and down.

1239
01:53:14,450 --> 01:53:16,130
And then you can ask the two.

1240
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:18,390
Can I address it before him?

1241
01:53:18,710 --> 01:53:19,090
I was on the bar.

1242
01:53:19,290 --> 01:53:20,130
I like it was on.

1243
01:53:20,170 --> 01:53:20,750
It was on.

1244
01:53:21,070 --> 01:53:22,730
No, there's a motion on the floor.

1245
01:53:22,890 --> 01:53:24,470
So you have to wait for the motion.

1246
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:28,900
Any discussion to the motion?

1247
01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:31,940
I'll answer to your question.

1248
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:33,220
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1249
01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:34,040
And thank you, Chief.

1250
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,160
I do want to echo the mayor's infamous and the work

1251
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,740
that has gone into this project.

1252
01:53:38,740 --> 01:53:44,920
and I know that it is to enhance public safety. As a mother of a child with a disability who's not

1253
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:54,100
verbal, I want every resource possible available to locate him if he is lost. With that said,

1254
01:53:55,240 --> 01:54:00,560
I do know that we want our police departments to have all the resources they need so we're able to

1255
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:07,000
aid in public safety. But as with any other department in the town of Dumfries,

1256
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:12,500
And we don't have community buying, we're going to have a hard time with success.

1257
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:16,280
So it's for that most I just want to go on the market, say that I do support the mayor's

1258
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:16,620
motion.

1259
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:21,200
And I do think that we could bring it back, but I may be that looks like brought in in our

1260
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:25,500
communication, targeted, maybe having town halls, things of that nature, but we have to

1261
01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:27,080
have community buying before you move forward.

1262
01:54:27,300 --> 01:54:28,100
And with that, I know.

1263
01:54:31,230 --> 01:54:33,770
Any other comments on the motion, Councilor Feet on Mr. Brooks.

1264
01:54:33,870 --> 01:54:37,030
So the motion on table is to deactivate and take them down.

1265
01:54:37,030 --> 01:54:41,110
and have the town manager conduct the public engage in the process and return the council

1266
01:54:41,110 --> 01:54:42,610
with options.

1267
01:54:45,650 --> 01:54:49,490
And they've been activated yet. They're not, they're not, they're up,

1268
01:54:49,610 --> 01:54:55,970
they're not activated, we're not using a camera. So let's all get this.

1269
01:55:05,340 --> 01:55:32,380
Any other discussion on the motion? Yes. Okay. So, if they're not active now, while we're motioning, when it's when it is physical life, the motion is to remove them and prohibit collection of any LPR that they were supposed to go live. So, so that's why the motion is to wait for motion. So, removing meaning, you would take them up by the ground and do what would have the public input for this process.

1270
01:55:32,380 --> 01:55:39,160
thought the bigger time to flood. Is that a cause? It would be a cause to reach all.

1271
01:55:47,690 --> 01:55:54,740
So we've spent, we've gotten a grant for this. And the chief has went out and did his

1272
01:55:54,740 --> 01:56:02,560
due diligence and getting this. We had two people to come up here that it don't even live

1273
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:10,980
in the town of Darfries and opposition to it. And we've got to waste this money that we've received

1274
01:56:10,980 --> 01:56:16,860
or it is. So what happens to those funds? We'll see that when we get that the motion is full

1275
01:56:16,860 --> 01:56:20,640
of the town manager to bring all that information back to the council. So you can vote

1276
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,560
the motion down or you can vote the motion out. But there's a motion on the floor.

1277
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:29,100
I know. And it's time for discussion. I'm discussing. Okay.

1278
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,840
And so they'll be returned back

1279
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:39,740
at no fee. Right now we're under the pilot program. So if you're taking down there's no fee

1280
01:56:39,740 --> 01:56:45,260
to put them back up, even within the 60-day limit would be a $8,000 fee for $1,000 for each

1281
01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:45,800
camera.

1282
01:56:48,980 --> 01:56:49,940
And then a live nail.

1283
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:51,740
We're not using the cameras, no sir.

1284
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:57,920
Is it possible to leave them up and not go live, so do I have to not encourage that expense

1285
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:58,620
later?

1286
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:00,700
That is possible, yes.

1287
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:10,930
And there's no fee for that, there would be a fee to reinstall them at the location.

1288
01:57:15,310 --> 01:57:19,590
Yes, you know, in a person who made the motion that we consider just leaving them up,

1289
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:25,090
don't encourage us to experience if we want to put them up later, we're not having to have

1290
01:57:25,090 --> 01:57:31,410
all this money wasted. If they're there, they're there. Whether they go live or not, that's a

1291
01:57:31,410 --> 01:57:38,570
different thing. We can suspend going live for further input from the public and the due diligence

1292
01:57:38,570 --> 01:57:43,830
of that. I'll support that. But taking it out to ground and wasting money to put them back in.

1293
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:47,890
No, that is a way to taxpayer money.

1294
01:57:50,010 --> 01:57:51,470
Okay, say no further discussion.

1295
01:57:51,950 --> 01:57:53,290
Ma'am, clerk call for the question.

1296
01:57:55,420 --> 01:57:55,980
How's it going to be?

1297
01:57:56,820 --> 01:57:57,380
No.

1298
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:58,660
How's it going to be?

1299
01:58:11,700 --> 01:58:12,060
How's it going to be?

1300
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:13,020
Yes.

1301
01:58:14,780 --> 01:58:15,320
How's it going to be?

1302
01:58:16,620 --> 01:58:17,180
I...

1303
01:58:17,180 --> 01:58:18,680
Share both of them out.

1304
01:58:19,660 --> 01:58:20,220
I...

1305
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:20,680
May I?

1306
01:58:21,140 --> 01:58:21,700
Yes.

1307
01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:23,040
No issues, thanks.

1308
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:24,600
All right.

1309
01:58:24,740 --> 01:58:28,540
Next on the agenda is the discussion of the municipal boundary line.

1310
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:34,280
Good

1311
01:58:44,430 --> 01:58:52,850
evening Mayor Council members. I come before you tonight to talk a little bit about the procurement on the

1312
01:58:54,930 --> 01:59:05,710
municipal boundary line feasibility study. At this point we are in the intent to award stage. We did go through a rigorous procurement process that began back in April.

1313
01:59:05,710 --> 01:59:13,030
we had one proposal that came in from the Robert Bob Group and we negotiated that contract

1314
01:59:13,030 --> 01:59:21,970
down 23% the original proposal cost was 414,300 dollars and you see now we are sitting

1315
01:59:21,970 --> 01:59:29,580
at 319,000 dollars as the proposed cost. It does exceed the budget amount of budgeted

1316
01:59:29,580 --> 01:59:37,620
amount of 175,000, but town staff has identified call savings within the identified capital

1317
01:59:37,620 --> 01:59:47,460
projects that were past via resolution in the amount of 263,784 dollars and 99 cents.

1318
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:56,160
This came from an identification that the emergency power system was both included in this

1319
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,980
project and our art profines, so we will take you.

1320
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,020
The costs associated with the emergency power system from the ARPA funding instead of the bond anticipation

1321
02:00:09,020 --> 02:00:18,140
of funding 2023A. In addition to that, we had cost savings and the Campbell property demolition

1322
02:00:18,140 --> 02:00:27,520
in the amount of $51,865. We also had cost savings for the HVI repairs and the amount of $6,000,900.

1323
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:36,560
And we had cost savings in the town hall security system in the amount of 3,775 dollars and 49 cents.

1324
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:45,620
And lastly, we had cost savings from the town hall conference room updates in the amount of 1,244 dollars and 50 cents.

1325
02:00:45,620 --> 02:00:50,920
This came through rigorous procurement processes to produce these cost savings.

1326
02:00:50,920 --> 02:01:00,380
In addition to that, I would also like to share that the solicitation for the municipal boundary line feasibility study was sent to

1327
02:01:00,380 --> 02:01:12,320
2,492 suppliers through Eva that generates throughout any suppliers that are relevant to the commodity codes that we put in.

1328
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:23,520
The commodity codes essentially identify who is in the market to produce services such

1329
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:24,040
as this.

1330
02:01:24,820 --> 02:01:29,920
So from that, we did have the one proposal which was included as the Robert Bob Group.

1331
02:01:30,820 --> 02:01:34,000
And at this time, I stand ready to answer any questions you may have.

1332
02:01:37,700 --> 02:01:40,700
Thank you for that thorough presentation.

1333
02:01:41,660 --> 02:01:48,020
I understand that the procurement, as you stated at the end, was broadly distributed to Eva and

1334
02:01:48,020 --> 02:01:55,180
one proposal was received. Can we explain what we learned from the other qualified firms who chose

1335
02:01:55,180 --> 02:02:05,960
not to respond and what steps maybe we could take a staff to ensure that proceeding with a single proposal

1336
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:12,320
still produce a fair reasonable and a competitive result for the town, being that we only

1337
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:12,920
had one.

1338
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:15,840
So how do we know it's competitive with the other two, sir?

1339
02:02:16,140 --> 02:02:16,460
Absolutely.

1340
02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:17,640
I'll share that.

1341
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:23,420
This process was a little bit different than what is of the norm for a procurement process.

1342
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:30,100
And with that, it's one that the town size and budget typically is going to be a deterrent

1343
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:31,140
for larger firms.

1344
02:02:31,140 --> 02:02:37,240
So that's one of one cost, one reason why we may have only received one proposal.

1345
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:43,980
In addition to that, the study is highly political and a lot of firms will not feel that

1346
02:02:43,980 --> 02:02:50,340
they are prepared to carry out all of those due diligence that are involved with the process.

1347
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:57,240
And then again, as I mentioned, it's a highly complex project, this project engages multiple

1348
02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:02,680
professionals, including legal, which is going to be your primary driver for why it is so

1349
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:03,220
expensive.

1350
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:10,460
And we did talk through a lot of that throughout the process, essentially looking at ways

1351
02:03:10,460 --> 02:03:16,000
in which we may be able to save on the amount of legal and offering ways in which we may

1352
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:21,540
be able to partner with the proposed contractor on ways that maybe we could utilize our

1353
02:03:21,540 --> 02:03:27,080
council in situations and in addition to that engaging our police department, which is also

1354
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:31,220
component of the project and utilizing some of the resources that we have.

1355
02:03:31,500 --> 02:03:37,680
So we do feel confident that although we've proceeded with the one proposal that this is the most beneficial from the town.

1356
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:47,700
Was there like a written determination supported, I guess the decision to proceed, which is one offer and can that be made part of the procurement record?

1357
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,760
So we do have a record that anyone is able to come and view.

1358
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:58,720
Inside the record, we also include a memorandum that outlines the full process and in addition to that,

1359
02:03:59,140 --> 02:04:06,100
we did have a thorough procurement process in which we involve evaluation committee members who weighed in,

1360
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:11,180
which is included in this file as shows a responses from the proposal.

1361
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:21,640
Also, responses from the oral presentation that was received throughout the process and then of course finalizing that within the file as well.

1362
02:04:22,500 --> 02:04:28,560
The market producer only went for proposals, so I just wanted the record to show how staff

1363
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:30,320
validated those qualifications.

1364
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:35,420
I wanted the record to show the scope and the price and the absence of competing proposals.

1365
02:04:35,860 --> 02:04:43,660
So I just wanted that all on the record as we make these decisions as we speak to this dollar amount.

1366
02:04:43,980 --> 02:04:49,300
Is the anybody else have any questions for the staff report and I just wanted to add

1367
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:57,940
also that we did solicit this opportunity twice. The first one was canceled due to non-response.

1368
02:04:58,420 --> 02:04:59,900
And then we revamped reevaluate.

1369
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,180
It is some of the language to ensure that it was more competitive on the next round.

1370
02:05:04,740 --> 02:05:12,980
Okay. Question, Kazmea. Thank you, sir. Question B, do you feel that the, with the 175 was too low?

1371
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:20,100
Yes, sir. Now that we are more aware of all of the different components that align with the project,

1372
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:29,640
especially with the amount of, right now they have budgeted around 1600 hours, dedicated just for legal presence throughout the project.

1373
02:05:30,780 --> 02:05:43,200
So again, that's going to drive up your cost, but the proposed best and final offer also negotiated down cap on those hours so that we don't initiate any change orders throughout that process.

1374
02:05:47,540 --> 02:05:52,020
Is the applicant here that we can speak to that coming we have some questions.

1375
02:05:52,020 --> 02:05:53,860
Mr. Robert Bobbass here.

1376
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:54,380
Robert Bobbass here.

1377
02:05:54,380 --> 02:05:56,060
Robert Bobbass, can you come to the Dias, please?

1378
02:05:56,380 --> 02:05:57,180
The podium.

1379
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,980
Mr. Bobbass, thank you for being here tonight.

1380
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:17,500
We just want to understand exactly what the town will own at the end of this engagement

1381
02:06:17,500 --> 02:06:22,980
and how this work moves this study to a defensible decision.

1382
02:06:24,740 --> 02:06:25,000
Excuse me.

1383
02:06:26,380 --> 02:06:26,720
Oh, yes.

1384
02:06:30,460 --> 02:06:37,420
And I was just curious, what did we lose by you reducing almost 100,000 dollars

1385
02:06:38,380 --> 02:06:49,240
We thought that we, we believe that we priced it currently, but we also, you know, we,

1386
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:52,060
we also want to, want to work with the city of Dumfries.

1387
02:06:54,900 --> 02:07:01,100
And we're, we're going to do our best to stay within the number of hours that have been dedicated to this work.

1388
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:15,100
I would say that one of the challenges that we may have is on the legal side of, we can do all of the analysis, we have a really strong team.

1389
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:21,600
But when you come to the legal side, you want to make sure that we're working with the city attorney and with others.

1390
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:30,240
because the legal fees are the most high fees within our portfolio.

1391
02:07:31,700 --> 02:07:35,900
And as what we're going to have to address in deal with,

1392
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:43,200
I would say that the study reminds me a little bit of the history

1393
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:48,260
when I went to when I became a city manager, Richmond, just as an aside

1394
02:07:48,260 --> 02:07:51,960
and the city of trying to maybe familiar you with this as well.

1395
02:07:52,740 --> 02:08:02,400
There was a Supreme Court case brought on by a local advocate in Richmond by the name of Curtis Holden.

1396
02:08:02,820 --> 02:08:13,740
And Curtis Holden brought a case similar, not similar, but not dissimilar to what we're proposing here.

1397
02:08:13,740 --> 02:08:19,600
And that case was to extend the boundaries for the city of Richmond.

1398
02:08:20,940 --> 02:08:23,540
In the case went all the way to the Supreme Court.

1399
02:08:24,820 --> 02:08:29,680
And it occurred to hold one that case at the Supreme Court.

1400
02:08:30,460 --> 02:08:34,440
The bottom line was that by when in that case,

1401
02:08:35,220 --> 02:08:43,520
the city of Richmond gained 23 additional square miles of territory as it were.

1402
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:50,000
It expanded the city of Richmond, and again 47,000 new residents in Richmond.

1403
02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:56,720
And we look back on the history of that case and how it impacts Virginia.

1404
02:08:57,020 --> 02:09:06,820
It says that no other municipality by the General Assembly can enter into a similar case.

1405
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:10,620
But towns are different.

1406
02:09:11,060 --> 02:09:13,040
There's a whole different process for towns.

1407
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:20,600
And so towns are not by that particular Supreme Court decision.

1408
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:30,110
The bottom line is that we have to work real closely with the city administrator.

1409
02:09:31,090 --> 02:09:32,690
I mean with the city manager.

1410
02:09:33,570 --> 02:09:38,190
I think that the legal component of it may be from the challenge.

1411
02:09:38,190 --> 02:09:50,430
We know that the team all committed to working with them, that's what we are currently.

1412
02:09:51,250 --> 02:09:56,190
They know otherwise we would not have continued into the process.

1413
02:09:58,270 --> 02:09:59,970
What um

1414
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:08,300
Can you share, I guess, with this, the council, the people, what prior, you know, annexation,

1415
02:10:08,540 --> 02:10:16,180
boundary line, relocation, any restructuring work that you're firm, all your team can talk to us about

1416
02:10:16,180 --> 02:10:23,220
that they completed and any lessons from that work that can apply directly to what we're doing here in the

1417
02:10:23,220 --> 02:10:24,260
I have a doctorate.

1418
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:27,160
In Canada, this is the first boundaries study that we've done.

1419
02:10:27,500 --> 02:10:30,580
I've been involved in a different life.

1420
02:10:30,940 --> 02:10:33,500
A boundaries study is relating to school districts,

1421
02:10:35,980 --> 02:10:40,780
which from my research, I'm much more

1422
02:10:40,780 --> 02:10:48,380
critical when you're taking kids from one area of part of town and you're creating new

1423
02:10:48,380 --> 02:10:49,820
boundaries for school districts.

1424
02:10:49,820 --> 02:10:54,860
You know, the former superintendent of the school district, that's been my experience

1425
02:10:54,860 --> 02:11:00,340
with boundaries for schools of school district, but not for municipalities.

1426
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:12,260
But with the requirements for this study, we believe that we have all of the technical

1427
02:11:12,260 --> 02:11:23,980
skills and expertise to address the areas of on which the city manager and the team

1428
02:11:23,980 --> 02:11:32,690
outlined in this particular study. I mean our team is very seated and very experienced

1429
02:11:32,690 --> 02:11:34,830
in conducting analysis.

1430
02:11:38,500 --> 02:11:41,320
I guess part of the most important question for me tonight

1431
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:51,320
And trying to make a decision here is if the council votes to spend 319,000 dollars on this work.

1432
02:11:52,420 --> 02:11:56,480
What should we expect to have in our hands at the end of this?

1433
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:06,640
And will it have any type of last and value if the council ultimately decides not to pursue a boundary change?

1434
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:11,960
I mean, looking at the, the many things we got going on as you know, we got small area

1435
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:16,820
plans working for redeveloping the waterfront, we're doing Main Street, we're doing a gateway.

1436
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:18,420
We got entertainment.

1437
02:12:18,900 --> 02:12:25,100
And so, you know, we're trying to figure out, it's just the best use of our resources right

1438
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:27,140
now in moving forward with this.

1439
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:33,700
So I know this is kind of a loaded question for you, but it's, you know, if we spend it,

1440
02:12:33,700 --> 02:12:38,210
we expect to have at our hands at the end that that can have some type of less than value.

1441
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:46,480
Well, less than value will be, it's more critical. I mean, we're doing all of the, we are confident

1442
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:54,900
that we can provide all of the technical analysis pursuant to the requirements of the RFP or the RFQ.

1443
02:12:55,900 --> 02:13:01,090
I mean, we and our teams can provide all of the analysis, but at the end of the day,

1444
02:13:01,090 --> 02:13:07,170
moving forward is going to be a decision that the City Council will have to make and whether

1445
02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:15,240
or not the City Council, with its relationships with the county, and ultimately with its

1446
02:13:18,410 --> 02:13:25,130
relationship with the, and at the state level under the Department, there's a committee

1447
02:13:25,130 --> 02:13:30,890
that ultimately decides makes the ultimate decision to go forward.

1448
02:13:34,730 --> 02:13:34,970
Okay.

1449
02:13:36,170 --> 02:13:36,550
Kazmea.

1450
02:13:37,190 --> 02:13:37,990
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1451
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:39,110
Quick question.

1452
02:13:39,590 --> 02:13:41,570
Notice that the contract was for one year.

1453
02:13:41,670 --> 02:13:42,050
Exactly.

1454
02:13:43,110 --> 02:13:49,440
How long does a process like that really really take this feasibility study?

1455
02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:51,020
Yes.

1456
02:13:52,180 --> 02:13:55,000
So the contract currently is written for one year.

1457
02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:58,800
I believe the scope of their bid is about 18 months.

1458
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:07,800
We have just learned that there aren't some restrictions around the funding, so we would have to make an amendment to the proposed contract if Council approves it.

1459
02:14:08,860 --> 02:14:09,820
Thank you.

1460
02:14:12,530 --> 02:14:17,210
Counciling the other questions on the contract and the proposal before you.

1461
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:24,260
Counciling my fails.

1462
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:30,200
When I first came to the town 20 years ago, this was the talk of trying to expand.

1463
02:14:33,500 --> 02:14:34,820
I've heard much about it since then.

1464
02:14:34,980 --> 02:14:36,320
So what what this up now?

1465
02:14:40,020 --> 02:14:45,140
A part of my employment, this was one of the tasks that the council had, is expressed as an interest.

1466
02:14:45,620 --> 02:14:52,320
And I had brought up in my last communications accounts for normal evaluations, the last tasks that I have in the G.

1467
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:58,480
So we were able to identify some funding that would allow us to move forward with the solicitation.

1468
02:15:00,270 --> 02:15:02,030
Okay, I got

1469
02:15:04,050 --> 02:15:04,450
it.

1470
02:15:04,450 --> 02:15:06,790
I got it was a part of the strategic plan.

1471
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:16,500
All right, no further questions. Thank you, Mr. Bob, for coming up.

1472
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:26,640
Thank you. I guess town manager based on the blue information with the funds and what we're

1473
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:32,980
doing, what is your recommendation to this council as we deliberate making the decision and

1474
02:15:32,980 --> 02:15:38,820
motion here tonight. My recommendation is for the Council to approve the contract in the amount

1475
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:43,620
that was stated on the in the contract amount. I don't know if I heard I don't want to

1476
02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:50,200
misstate it. What is that amount? 319,000. 319,000.

1477
02:15:55,050 --> 02:16:00,110
All right. Councilman P. What was the number on the reduction again to our manager?

1478
02:16:01,750 --> 02:16:17,490
So initially began a little over 400,000 for 13 that was a original from is that the previous time was that just over the first proposal for this time the first proposal from this time

1479
02:16:17,490 --> 02:16:22,510
Okay, now this is that for 13 more than our previous time

1480
02:16:23,170 --> 02:16:27,330
So the previous time we solicited we did not receive any responses

1481
02:16:27,330 --> 02:16:42,790
Okay, so this is the second time so. Okay, all right, sounds good then. Okay, so we had a reduction down to three. What was that I think it's me 19, so you guys went and put some work in to get us a reduction for this. Okay.

1482
02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:43,410
Yeah.

1483
02:16:43,770 --> 02:16:48,590
And if I may may or would, the 175,000 was an estimate.

1484
02:16:49,010 --> 02:16:51,930
We did not have any independent written cost estimate.

1485
02:16:52,210 --> 02:16:53,770
We just did a ballpark figure.

1486
02:16:54,310 --> 02:16:56,730
And that's how we came up with that in a morsel.

1487
02:16:59,810 --> 02:17:07,450
I guess with the scope, you know, is it, can this be scope in phases or this whole scope needs

1488
02:17:07,450 --> 02:17:08,690
to be done at one time?

1489
02:17:08,730 --> 02:17:13,870
And is that why the cost was so much and we didn't get the best, do you think we could

1490
02:17:13,870 --> 02:17:16,950
phase dissolved or is all due to be done at one time?

1491
02:17:17,190 --> 02:17:19,130
I mean, it's a feasibility study.

1492
02:17:19,390 --> 02:17:23,010
So you start with the feasibility study to see whether that is even feasible to move

1493
02:17:23,010 --> 02:17:23,930
to the next phase.

1494
02:17:25,530 --> 02:17:29,050
So I mean, the council decides that this is not what they want.

1495
02:17:29,150 --> 02:17:30,470
It's not a priority at this moment.

1496
02:17:31,010 --> 02:17:32,150
We could delay it.

1497
02:17:32,410 --> 02:17:34,430
But you know, it's completely up to the body.

1498
02:17:34,730 --> 02:17:35,530
Sorry about that, sir.

1499
02:17:35,730 --> 02:17:36,090
Okay.

1500
02:17:36,390 --> 02:17:37,130
This is just one.

1501
02:17:38,890 --> 02:17:39,770
All right.

1502
02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:40,150
Okay.

1503
02:17:40,890 --> 02:17:48,030
Council, any further discussion, questions on this and I'll put in front of the consent agenda to just get this information share program?

1504
02:17:48,370 --> 02:17:51,910
So I'm just taking everything in at the reading packet.

1505
02:17:52,750 --> 02:17:56,250
I notice that I know y'all haven't had whom you saying that.

1506
02:17:57,110 --> 02:18:07,890
But after hearing that only one firm bid after hearing that that is much longer than we thought after hearing that is going to get very political.

1507
02:18:09,010 --> 02:18:12,190
is this? I know when we said that we definitely did direct this

1508
02:18:12,190 --> 02:18:15,390
homensager to pursue the biology around the adjustments and that's been a big

1509
02:18:15,390 --> 02:18:19,530
thing since I've been here we talked about it even the previous homensager's

1510
02:18:19,530 --> 02:18:26,990
but knowing what we know now do we need to have a conversation about whether or not

1511
02:18:26,990 --> 02:18:29,350
this remains a part of our strategic plan.

1512
02:18:36,700 --> 02:18:38,960
Yeah I mean we can we can we can table a

1513
02:18:38,960 --> 02:18:44,340
discussion today and we can come back how long is the the what time do we

1514
02:18:44,340 --> 02:18:45,620
How much time do we have to respond?

1515
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:50,860
So we have on the intent on what phase has this over.

1516
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:53,160
So right now, we're in a contract and phase.

1517
02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:55,300
If council needs to take some time to delivery,

1518
02:18:55,460 --> 02:18:57,360
we have time to do so, sir.

1519
02:19:00,170 --> 02:19:00,550
All right.

1520
02:19:00,970 --> 02:19:05,990
So if we take no action today, can we bring it up on the further,

1521
02:19:06,330 --> 02:19:08,610
or do we need to take some sort of action?

1522
02:19:08,990 --> 02:19:09,610
Not a maternity?

1523
02:19:17,470 --> 02:19:20,030
I think it depends on a couple of things.

1524
02:19:20,170 --> 02:19:22,470
I don't have that information immediately in front of me,

1525
02:19:22,470 --> 02:19:28,870
But we do have the applicant here and you can kind of informally query if he has an objection

1526
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:35,530
to this being continued to the next counsel meeting if the counsel for sees that it will

1527
02:19:35,530 --> 02:19:40,470
be able to make a decision by that particular date.

1528
02:19:53,100 --> 02:19:59,580
Okay, we want to try to hold off a meeting to liberate like it's a more information.

1529
02:20:00,690 --> 02:20:05,650
So we'll take any action with somebody at the motion, may.

1530
02:20:06,290 --> 02:20:12,730
So the correct motion we'll just be to continue this matter over into the, I believe, as the September

1531
02:20:14,370 --> 02:20:16,930
7th, 15th council meeting.

1532
02:20:17,790 --> 02:20:23,850
Council would be, Mr. Mayor, like that we, I would like to make a motion that we move this matter into our next

1533
02:20:23,850 --> 02:20:27,310
previous continue containment into the next

1534
02:20:28,190 --> 02:20:30,570
minute. Second. Okay, it's been

1535
02:20:30,570 --> 02:20:32,810
motioned in second. Any further discussion?

1536
02:20:33,710 --> 02:20:34,750
All right, see you in that Madam Clerk

1537
02:20:34,750 --> 02:20:36,490
call for the question.

1538
02:20:37,130 --> 02:20:40,790
How's my field? Yes. How's my feet?

1539
02:20:41,850 --> 02:20:45,010
Yes. How's my young? Yes. How's the one

1540
02:20:45,010 --> 02:20:47,210
my feet are some? I share a photo to my

1541
02:20:47,210 --> 02:20:57,500
I may or would. Yes, the Town Council of Dumpers desires to go to and close meeting and

1542
02:20:57,500 --> 02:21:05,920
pursue it to that 237-11 alpha. One of the code of a date to discuss and consider

1543
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:18,880
our personnel matters including, but not limited appointment assignment, performance of specific public

1544
02:21:18,880 --> 02:21:21,420
All right, it's been motioned in second.

1545
02:21:21,580 --> 02:21:22,520
Yes, no.

1546
02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:25,340
There's more to it.

1547
02:21:25,360 --> 02:21:25,660
Okay.

1548
02:21:26,380 --> 02:21:26,900
Okay.

1549
02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:29,060
I will draw that.

1550
02:21:29,420 --> 02:21:30,200
We will draw that.

1551
02:21:30,340 --> 02:21:31,360
I read this one.

1552
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,500
The town council desires to go to close.

1553
02:21:33,720 --> 02:21:35,360
That's presented to that two.

1554
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:36,160
That's 37.

1555
02:21:37,180 --> 02:21:38,980
11 out for one.

1556
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:40,400
And out for eight.

1557
02:21:40,700 --> 02:21:41,800
And out for four.

1558
02:21:42,380 --> 02:21:43,940
To the source, to consider this.

1559
02:21:44,060 --> 02:21:45,200
This is the city public office.

1560
02:21:45,340 --> 02:21:46,940
You can start with legal council regarding.

1561
02:21:46,940 --> 02:21:50,940
specifically to manage require legal advice and to the extent and that's the

1562
02:21:50,940 --> 02:21:54,240
say to protect the privacy of individuals and personnel matters not

1563
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:58,140
related to public business matters. I'm sorry that motion is not all right. It's been

1564
02:21:58,140 --> 02:22:02,820
motion to second any discussion? Seeing none of my clerk call for the question.

1565
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:05,900
Councilman Fiddles. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. Yes.

1566
02:22:05,900 --> 02:22:10,240
Councilman y'all. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. I'm Chair Boatime. Okay. May I

1567
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:11,260
Good, yes.

1568
02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:12,480
We are now a closed session.

1569
03:35:32,180 --> 03:35:33,600
Evan, can I hear us?

1570
03:36:10,760 --> 03:36:17,060
Make a motion that, in accordance with the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2.2-3712, the Code of

1571
03:36:17,060 --> 03:36:22,400
a J.A.A. to the best of each member, only public business matters, lawfully exempt from open,

1572
03:36:22,420 --> 03:36:29,160
meeting with her, discussed or considered, and that only public, only business that were identified

1573
03:36:29,160 --> 03:36:33,100
by the motion, which we went in the co-session. What is discussed?

1574
03:36:33,100 --> 03:36:37,240
All right. It's been motion and secondly in the discussion.

1575
03:36:38,100 --> 03:36:39,980
Seeing that, Madam Clerk, please call for the question.

1576
03:36:42,620 --> 03:36:44,460
Calf of my field. Yes.

1577
03:36:44,480 --> 03:36:45,600
Calf of my peep. Yes.

1578
03:36:46,020 --> 03:36:47,300
Calf of my young. Yes.

1579
03:36:47,760 --> 03:36:49,220
Calf of my peep. Yes.

1580
03:36:49,220 --> 03:36:49,780
Calf of my peep. Yes.

1581
03:36:51,440 --> 03:36:52,420
Calf of my peep. Yes.

1582
03:36:53,880 --> 03:36:55,240
And now I'm back in open session.

1583
03:36:55,680 --> 03:36:57,500
All right. Say anything to report out.

1584
03:36:57,760 --> 03:36:58,760
Yes, this may I do have a statement.

1585
03:36:58,900 --> 03:36:59,760
I'd like to refer record.

1586
03:36:59,880 --> 03:37:00,880
Calf of my peep. Yes.

1587
03:37:00,880 --> 03:37:06,820
Council wants to address recent allegations that one of his members use public resources for personal purposes.

1588
03:37:07,020 --> 03:37:09,400
Example taking pictures and council chambers.

1589
03:37:10,060 --> 03:37:13,000
Council has addressed this text of this code of ethics.

1590
03:37:13,480 --> 03:37:18,540
But since we have not yet had training, the benefit of that will be given to the offending member.

1591
03:37:19,700 --> 03:37:27,740
We will like to go on record to say that after the training is conducted, we do not condone this behavior.

1592
03:37:28,240 --> 03:37:33,200
and we will be enforcing the code of ethics more diligently in its

1593
03:37:33,200 --> 03:37:37,860
entairing in the future, including punishment, and that's all I

1594
03:37:39,940 --> 03:37:40,000
got.

1595
03:37:40,140 --> 03:37:42,100
Okay, I'm going to say this.

1596
03:37:42,100 --> 03:37:44,260
All right, what that said, this meeting is now adjourned.