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[0:33] To everybody here, welcome to tonight's council meeting. I is your mayor and presiding officer, my role in the town charter and the town of Dunbridge rules procedure.
[0:43] It's an issue of orderly processing of business and maintaining the quorum so that all participants, council staff and the public can be heard respectfully and fairly.
[0:53] Today's end, please note the following requirements which apply equally to council members and to the public.
[0:59] All comments must be directed through the mayor who is the chair in the presided office of this meeting.
[1:05] No comment should be directed to an individual member, staff member or member of the public.
[1:10] We ask that you keep your cross-talk and your side conversations to a minimum.
[1:15] Any remarks from the diet should be made audible so that it becomes a part of the official record.
[1:21] Electronic devices we ask that you silence them.
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[1:31] I know one may speak when another person has the floor, interruptions will be ruled out
[1:36] of order.
[1:37] Council members will be recognized by the mayor before speaking.
[1:41] Council members may speak up to 2 times on any item, with a combined total of no more than
[1:46] 10 minutes.
[1:47] Members of the public are a lot of 3 minutes to speak, door and citizen comment time and the
[1:53] side unless otherwise changed by a majority vote by the council prior to this meeting.
[1:59] Doing this in comment time, members will not respond directly to the speakers or response
[2:05] clarifications or follow remarks may be offered later or doing the designated council
[2:10] time.
[2:11] Any member rule out of order, I will yield the floor immediately unless the ruling is appealed
[2:16] by the council in accordance to Robert's rule.
[2:19] This rupt of behavior may result in a removal for an immediate and necessary expulsion for
[2:25] the remainder of the session.
[2:27] I speak as who exceed the allotted time, or violate the calm, may have the microphone
[2:31] silence.
[2:32] Our council direction is given collectively to the council for the town manager, any political
[2:38] commentary attempts to draw staff into the little matters are not appropriate, staff are
[2:43] expected to remain neutral and professional.
[2:44] So these rules are designed to protect the rights of our participants and show a compliance
[2:49] with the law and keep our meeting efficient, respectful and productive.
[2:53] Thank you for your cooperation with that.
[2:56] I now call this meeting to order
[2:59] off of the roll.
[3:01] Afterment and fail.
[3:05] And here.
[3:06] Calment and P.
[3:07] There.
[3:07] Calment and yolk.
[3:09] Calment to one meter soon.
[3:11] Chair for some mouth.
[3:14] Vice Mary Nicole Seeing.
[3:16] Mayor will.
[3:17] Here.
[3:18] Thank you.
[3:19] Alright.
[3:20] We will now.
[3:21] How.
[3:22] Our.
[3:24] Pleasure of Allegiance,
[3:26] Martiana and I.
[3:31] All right.
[3:33] I think they're back to
[3:41] get rid of the accidents.
[3:44] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to our republic for which we stand on nation under God and invisible with liberty and justice for all.
[4:12] one hour, order, but that's okay. I will have the, I will have the, I will open the
[4:16] implication that prayer, my past the Frank Wesley River light church. So, thank you.
[4:24] Thank you, Peter. One less than,
[4:28] let's pray. All mighty God, we come before you with gratitude.
[4:35] We thank you for being a God of love with with us now in this very room. We never let you
[4:45] Grace has brought us safe thus far and your grace will continue to lead us home, Lord.
[4:50] We thank you for making each of us in this room every person we meet, every citizen of
[4:55] this city and every nation in your image with dignity.
[5:01] We thank you for the call you have given each and every one of us to be good stewards over your creation to love our neighbors as ourselves.
[5:11] I thank you tonight for these your servants, our mayor, our city manager, our city staff, our city council, and all the staff members.
[5:21] I give you thanks for the way of service they have chosen to take all behalf of all of us here.
[5:27] So, God, in your work, you make clear your expectation for those who sit in places of authority.
[5:33] So, we pray that you would glorify tonight through the suggestions of this council.
[5:39] We pray that you would have the eyes to see how our lives are all connected and how our common good is upheld when we listen and respond to your wisdom.
[5:49] We pray that your kingdom will come in the city of Dorfers as it is in heaven through your power
[5:55] work and in each of these your servants. And Jesus saying we pray and everyone said amen.
[6:02] Thank you.
[6:25] You two young ladies.
[6:26] I did a comeback to the bill.
[6:27] I'm a reasonable lawyer.
[6:29] All right.
[6:30] To hold by ambassadors.
[6:34] Ayana and Tiana.
[6:36] And we read.
[6:36] Tiana's first.
[6:38] A grateful recognition for your leadership.
[6:40] Your service in leading.
[6:42] Our pledge of allegiance.
[6:43] As girls got ambassador with true.
[6:45] 1.803.
[6:47] A 12-grade student at Christ Chapel Academy.
[6:49] You've demonstrated a confidence, civil pride and commendable commitment to community service,
[6:54] your participation, help open the meeting with dignity, respect,
[6:57] wildlife, and the values, and leadership, citizenship, and service and body by the
[7:01] girl scouts.
[7:03] On behalf of the Town Council, the Town staff and the residents of Duffley,
[7:06] thank you for your service and helping make it this meaningful.
[7:17] You are 12 great student at CD Hill to High School, and you also demonstrated confidence,
[7:22] a little pride, a commitment to community service on behalf of the Town Council, to Town
[7:28] staff, and the residents of Town Duffers. Thank you for your service.
[7:41] Get your mouth, they want to.
[7:44] All right,
[7:57] next to an agenda is the adoption of the agenda. I'm going to remove from the
[8:04] consent agenda.
[8:07] The municipal Boundary Study and I'll put that after the flock discussion
[8:12] in that B. Okay. Any other changes or
[8:19] did them to the agenda?
[8:21] Yes, I did. You know what? No, I'm
[8:25] ahead of myself. Okay, back to it. All right. Okay.
[8:30] Seeing none, I moved that we adopt the agenda with the
[8:33] amendments. Okay, so we moved in second and
[8:37] the discussion. All right, seeing none,
[8:39] Madam Clerk, call for the question.
[8:42] Catherine Feele.
[8:43] Yes.
[8:44] Catherine P.
[8:45] Here.
[8:46] Yes.
[8:47] Catherine Young.
[8:49] Catherine McFeederson.
[8:50] Chair for O'Donnell House.
[8:52] Mayor Wood.
[8:53] Yes.
[8:54] The motion's fair.
[8:55] All right.
[8:55] First of all, agenda is a proclamation recognizing the month of September as afternoon to ask for a month.
[9:02] It says where's the afternoon to ask for represents people of afternoon to sense whose histories
[9:07] cultures and contributions span nations and generations across the world.
[9:13] The African diaspora has made lasting contributions to history, culture, economic, economy,
[9:18] civic light, arts, entertainment, entrepreneurship, and the progress of the United States,
[9:22] and the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[9:24] Where's the town of Dumfries is strengthened by residents, families, businesses,
[9:28] faith communities and community leaders representing the rich diversity of the
[9:32] African diaspora?
[9:33] Recognizing the diaspora provides an opportunity to honor share their heritage while celebrating
[9:39] the distinct histories, language traditions, and experiences that enrich our community.
[9:45] We're preserving cultural heritage and shaping the stories of past generations,
[9:50] strengthens identity, falsehood, pride, and inspires future leaders.
[9:54] We're as meaningful connections across the African diaspora,
[9:57] create opportunities for cultural exchange, editing.
[10:00] Occasion, entrepreneurship, economic empowerment, civic engagement, and global partnership.
[10:05] Where the town of Duffins remains committed to fostering a welcoming community where diversity
[10:09] strength is unity and advances opportunity for the fall.
[10:13] Now, therefore, the April claim that the town of Duffins town council do here by
[10:17] Proclaim September 26, as African diaspora might in the town of Duffins.
[10:21] When we encourage all our residents to celebrate the history, the culture, the contributions
[10:25] of people throughout the afternoon that I asked for, and to continue building bridges across
[10:30] cultures and generations that strengthen our future. There are many routes, one community,
[10:35] and a stronger future. Sign, Mayor Derek Orwood by Order of the Town Council.
[12:08] Good evening, everyone. My name is Kamel Moosa and this is in front of you. I was going to speak so people by the way.
[12:16] But we are a committee of the African diaspora. We all over the country, but especially in the beginning, I'm kind of a very constituted.
[12:25] and the town of Dumfries. Some of us live here. We do business over here. We live here for
[12:30] 26 years. We run businesses. So we pay taxes. We contribute to the community. And we also
[12:37] volunteer and help with donations back home. So we coordinate activities and the nation's
[12:46] back home to support nearly communities like hospitals and schools and stuff. So I'm going to say
[12:52] I didn't know I was going to speak so.
[12:54] Pardon me.
[12:56] Yes.
[13:01] All right.
[13:01] Next one out agenda is a proclamation, but
[13:05] National Preparedness Month.
[13:08] Where as emergencies rarely give us the time or warning,
[13:11] we would like and being prepared before something happens can protect
[13:15] lives, families, homes, businesses, and our community.
[13:19] Where the town of Dumpings understands the importance of preparing for
[13:22] emergencies that can affect our community, including severe storms,
[13:26] flooding, power outages, fires, and other unexpected events.
[13:30] Where its preparedness begins with simple actions, knowing how your family will communicate
[13:35] during an emergency, having a central supplies available, receiving local emergency alerts,
[13:40] nor where to go if evacuation becomes necessary, and checking on neighbors who may need
[13:45] additional assistance.
[13:47] Where's our responsibility extends beyond our individual households, because a truly prepared
[13:52] community is one when neighbors look out for neighbors and no residents of a guy in doing an emergency.
[13:57] Whereas the strength and resilience of dumpries are supported every day by law enforcement
[14:02] officers, our firefighters, emergency medical personnel, our 911 dispatchers, emergency management
[14:08] professionals, town employees, volunteers, community organizers and regional partners who prepare,
[14:15] respond and help our community recover. And whereas national preparedness might remind us
[14:20] that why we cannot prevent every emergency.
[14:23] We can determine how prepared we are when one occurs.
[14:27] Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the town council.
[14:29] We do hear by proclaim the month of September,
[14:32] 2026 is National Preparedness Month in the town of Dundries
[14:36] and we encourage every resident family, business, school,
[14:39] faith, community, and organization
[14:40] to take at least one action this month
[14:43] to become better prepared.
[14:45] Make a family emergency plan, build or update
[14:48] and emergency kits sign up for local emergency alerts,
[14:52] learn the risk facing our community
[14:54] and make a plan to check on neighbors who may need help.
[14:57] Together, we can build a dumpries that is in.
[15:00] Form, connected, prepared, and ready to take care of one another when it matters. Sorry, Mayor Derek R. Wood by Order of the Town Council.
[15:13] And can we have Director Brian Misner, Director Katie Carroll, David Glenn Glynnsky, and Chief Galian Sue come up forward for a picture.
[16:13] We'll be meeting Mayor Wood and Council members. Thank you very much for the
[16:16] Proclamation. My name is Brian Meizner and I'm the Emergency Management Coordinator
[16:19] from Priscilla and County. The Proclamation really did a great job of hitting on all what
[16:24] we call our pillars of preparedness that we like to remind the community to make sure that
[16:29] have an emergency supply kit, a plan of where they'll go if they have to evacuate their neighborhood,
[16:34] a way to receive alerts and preferably more than one way to receive alerts, an opportunity
[16:39] to get involved, whether that's with volunteer organization that's active in disaster, or
[16:43] as the proclamation said, even at your neighborhood level.
[16:47] This year's theme for preparedness months that by the federal emergency management agency is American
[16:51] stand ready.
[16:52] I really want to take a moment to reiterate that theme of neighbor's helping neighbors, because
[16:57] as well. We are very prepared as a county as a community. We work very closely with the town,
[17:02] with our emergency management plans and procedures. We are still at risk of having something
[17:06] like a rather impactful travel storm or hurricane or a winter storm, which we certainly
[17:11] have not been shy away from here in the last couple of years with some of the winter weather.
[17:17] So that can impact emergency services and that means it could take longer for help to get to you.
[17:21] So really take a couple of minutes this month to check with your neighbors, figure out the skill sets
[17:26] that you all have, the supplies that you might be able to kind of coordinate with each other,
[17:31] to be able to to shelter in place and right out at event for at least three days while the
[17:36] system worked on responding and getting us back to normal. So again, thank you very much for
[17:41] the proclamation. I do have some of our preparedness pamphlets that I'll leave, you know what the
[17:46] clerk can leave out front. And we also have a website with all of our resources in the county level.
[17:51] and that's pwcva.gov slash ready, so thank you.
[17:55] Thank you.
[17:59] All right next on our genders.
[18:00] What will longest be approval of the minutes from the August 5th, 2026 town council meeting.
[18:06] Mr. Mayor, like the move that we approve the minutes from our last meeting.
[18:11] Yes.
[18:12] Actually, I don't have the motion from there.
[18:15] Okay.
[18:16] Okay, I like to withdraw that motion.
[18:18] Chair Prodo.
[18:18] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[18:19] I like to make a motion to amend the meeting minutes from August.
[18:22] there was a statement in the minutes that the council and staff had taken action on an event
[18:31] and no action to a place. I just wanted that corrected in the record. There was no official
[18:36] action taken. Okay. Any thank us? So your motion is to amend with that statement? Yes, correct.
[18:44] Okay. Can I repeat you want to? Yes, Mr. Mayor, I like to make the motion to approve the
[18:49] I mean, I mean, the proven minutes from our last meeting with the amendments to the motion as well.
[19:00] Okay.
[19:01] I any other comment?
[19:03] All right, saying that.
[19:04] Madam Clerk, call for the question.
[19:07] Yes.
[19:09] Yes.
[19:11] Yes.
[19:11] Yes.
[19:11] Yes.
[19:12] Yes.
[19:12] Yes.
[19:13] Yes.
[19:13] Yes.
[19:16] Yes.
[19:17] for it. Yes. All right. Next one,
[19:20] our gen is our citizen comment here.
[19:21] Are there citizen signed up to speak tonight?
[19:24] Yes. Yep, a total of eight speakers.
[19:30] The first one is Jeff.
[19:32] And we, we're going to call you also.
[19:34] You all could line up against the wall.
[19:36] And we'll have a timer up here.
[19:38] So you can see the timer. You know,
[19:39] when your time expires from speaking.
[19:44] Jeff,
[19:44] Paul Kerson, Don Pannell, I'm sorry for the first name Rosey or Ronnie Azales, Anthony Fields, Derek.
[20:00] Green, and Angela Assul.
[20:05] All right, proceed. Just restate your name for the record so they know you are. Please speak it.
[20:16] My name is Jeff Falkerson. I'm the public hearing engagement coordinator with Prince William County Social Services.
[20:23] Also with the Prince William County Falker initiative. I'm here to share some information about our fatherhood initiative here in Prince William County.
[20:33] First off, I'd like to appreciate the invitation to speak, extend that to Mayor Wood and also
[20:41] to council members and just a little bit about the Prince William County Fatherhood Initiative.
[20:47] This has been around since 2012.
[20:50] We have, you know, served fathers within this county since then and our whole goal is to
[20:57] Our health fathers strengthen their connections with their children and also to help them develop better co-parenting relationships with their children's mothers.
[21:11] Some of the programming that we offer throughout the year, one of the main stays of the program is our fatherhood workshops.
[21:20] We call these 24-7 Dad workshops and I do have some flyers here that I will place out on the table.
[21:27] We're currently recruiting fathers to participate in that.
[21:31] All of our sessions are virtual right now.
[21:34] Not in person, but we do have in-person events.
[21:37] So we have our, we're actually facilitating workshops in the community virtually.
[21:43] But we're also facilitating workshops at the Presswoman County,
[21:46] the NASA's Advil the Tension Center. We facilitated a program called Inside Out VAD. Every year
[21:54] we have two events, our father and daughter dance, and we have over 200 people that show up at
[22:01] the Falazzo building dressed to the dress to the nine, you know, and fathers with their daughters,
[22:08] and they have a great time, and we also have something called VAD's pool day. You know, we're,
[22:14] out the waterworks water park and as in their children and their wives, you know, get a chance
[22:20] to just enjoy some fun in the sun and they also get some food, you know, and it's all paid
[22:26] for by the county, you know. So we're doing, you know, stuff like that, you know, within the county
[22:33] and I do want to acknowledge my, you know, I have some of my facilitators, we call them fatherhood
[22:39] So they're here in the audience as well, Darwin Barcus, William Jackson, and Will Mall.
[22:46] He is a part of our steering committee.
[22:50] And we are always encouraging residents to actually help us out service volunteers for some of our special events.
[23:01] But also, if they want to join us for our workshops, they are also welcome.
[23:07] We welcome any man who has an adult child to serve as a father with mental, you know,
[23:12] so they can join their conversations and that is something that we really appreciate.
[23:18] But again, I just want to thank you, Mayor Wood and also the council members for just
[23:23] allowing us this opportunity to share a little bit about the fatherhood initiative.
[23:29] Thank you.
[23:29] Thank you.
[23:48] I'm Anthony Fields. I'm here representing the friends of Dumfries late cemetery.
[24:02] We just came to thank you for your financial contributions to the cemetery.
[24:08] We have been
[24:12] doing cemetery since 2011. We found out about it.
[24:17] We've been cleaning it every set. Thank you for helping us hear our ancestors dignity and death that they did not have in life.
[24:27] Our mission is to preserve, maintain and restore the slave cemetery, promote and improve awareness of this history, and the cemetery and the two, I'm sorry, to be honored and preserve the memory of the people that are buried there.
[24:49] Your grant helps us do that and we thank you.
[24:53] Make sure that you agree it.
[25:00] We've been able to buy Rose Bush's support to place at the cemetery, mulch, bricks to line the cemetery,
[25:09] rosebees, and other items to maintain the grounds. We have volunteers that come out. We work every
[25:17] second Saturday from 8 to 10, and this second Saturday, which is the 12th of September. We were honored
[25:24] board scout troop from British Georgia County, Maryland, the Army of Symmeter about having
[25:31] one of the kids do an Eagle Scout project at the Symmeter.
[25:37] What they did was prepare the grounds to make a flat head stone commemorating our ancestors.
[25:45] Stone is going to be dedicated on the 12th of September and that's our next cleanup at about
[25:50] 945.
[25:51] We're going to do a clean up and then we're going to dedicate the stone.
[25:55] Mayor Wood has so graciously said that he would grace us with his presence and offer remarks.
[26:04] And we really appreciate that, Mayor.
[26:07] Again, the front of the Nuffles Place and Materials Foundation members and from the heart.
[26:16] I'm from my heart.
[26:17] We thank you very, very much for your support.
[26:20] I will look forward to your continued support that we continue to preserve our ancestors
[26:26] burial ground. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
[26:34] One last thing, Mr. Mayor, my wife
[26:37] found out that you were, where did you see if you told me I had to get this thing.
[26:50] Oh, that's good.
[26:51] Maybe.
[26:57] his wife went to church with my grandmother back in Norfolk.
[27:03] Should I low that discharge across from Norfolk State?
[27:09] Good evening members of Council on Reverend Dr. Derekensen.
[27:13] I'm asking you to do something very simple tonight to stop normalizing mass surveillance of innocent people.
[27:19] These A-flot cameras that have been placed on private property throughout our city are paid for by government money and grants
[27:25] and they create a record of where vehicles travel, not because these people have committed
[27:30] a crime, but simply because they drove through our town.
[27:34] And before anyone says if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
[27:38] I want us to remember something about American history.
[27:41] Harriet Tubman was a fugitive under the laws of her time.
[27:44] She violated laws that the government considered legitimate.
[27:49] If an all-seeing surveillance system had existed then,
[27:53] It could have been used to track her movements and help enforce those laws, changing American history.
[28:01] The point isn't the flat cameras or slavery, or the dumpries is the government of the 1850s.
[28:06] The point is that the laws and government can be wrong, and it isn't ancient history.
[28:12] For years, the FBI co-integrated co-intellipro using surveillance and infiltration against
[28:19] American organizations involved in political and civil rights activity.
[28:24] The government had surveillance powers, and those of powers were eventually used in ways that went far beyond what many Americans considered legitimate law enforcement.
[28:34] So here's my question. Why should we build a system today that assumes the government will always use this information exactly as intended?
[28:41] You may trust the officials sitting on this council, I may trust them as well, but we're not building a system for our government.
[28:49] We're building a system for future, and we don't know what that entails. We don't know who will hold office next.
[28:57] The question isn't about whether Flock helps solve crime. The question is whether surveillance is what we need of innocent Americans.
[29:07] And once this database exists for Flock, who gets access, we see all over the news now.
[29:13] Law enforcement is misusing the system, the state of Florida Governor DeSantis has just
[29:18] banned it on government highways or state highways, pardon me.
[29:24] How long is that information kept?
[29:25] Who gets the search it?
[29:26] Do they search it for innocent people?
[29:28] Do they search it because you refuse to take the COVID vaccine?
[29:32] Do they search it because heaven forbids your African-American?
[29:35] or do they search it because you're a Christian or a Jew? What do they do with it? Why do they need this?
[29:42] They don't need it, it's the answer. Freedom requires limits. Precisely because we don't know who will hold that power tomorrow.
[29:50] Council members, you have an opportunity to draw that line here tonight.
[29:55] Don't make Dumfries a town where surveillance of innocent citizens becomes the price of life.
[30:00] Living here, make it this the town that Mayor Derek Wood wants it to be, not just to drive through town, but a hot town where people want to live and want to build their families. Take down the cameras.
[30:16] A pass of where are you from again?
[30:18] I'm from Netflix.
[30:20] Not a rich one.
[30:23] Mr. Wilson, a clerk out there.
[30:33] Good afternoon, Mayor Wood.
[30:36] I would also like to speak against the use of plot cameras in this area.
[30:42] I'm very concerned that the town of Dumfries is planning to use their taxpayer dollars
[30:48] to pay for a private company to collect and store data
[30:52] on the movements of its people,
[30:54] both the people who live here and the people who come through.
[30:58] This is also using a technology that has been proved
[31:01] to be faulty in many regards.
[31:03] From the many security vulnerabilities
[31:05] that allow bad actors not just law enforcement,
[31:11] but many people can use the multiple
[31:18] to follow people and just honestly stalk them.
[31:25] Also, this technology has been proven to be an accurate.
[31:29] Many times, people are falsely arrested,
[31:34] because the technology believes one thing and makes a false conclusion.
[31:41] And also, just the general detrimental impact of the data centers that are powering this technology
[31:47] that they had on our nearby communities,
[31:50] that the light pollution, the sound pollution,
[31:53] that increase on the strain of our water and electric infrastructure,
[32:00] there's too many other concerns to be able to speak to these today.
[32:05] I'm incredibly concerned that this is the direction of the town dump freeze,
[32:08] where I live, and plans to live for a very long time is seeking to pursue.
[32:13] and get name again for the order.
[32:16] You're name.
[32:16] Oh, sorry.
[32:17] Good.
[32:18] Good
[32:27] evening.
[32:29] I am Martina Jackson Green.
[32:31] I'm the Chief Advancement Officer at Birmingham Green.
[32:33] And I am with Angela Asmoa, who is our admissions liaison.
[32:38] So some of you may know about Birmingham Green.
[32:40] Many of you don't because we're neatly tucked away.
[32:43] We are a senior living campus.
[32:45] We've been serving the community for 99 years.
[32:48] Right here in Northern Virginia.
[32:50] We are the only affordable senior living community in Northern Virginia.
[32:55] We specifically serve people, seniors, and those with disabilities who have income constraints.
[33:00] If you've tried to put a family member in assisted living, you know how expensive that can be.
[33:05] And so we are that lifeline for many of the residents here.
[33:09] So tonight we are coming to share that we are having our 99 celebration on September 17th.
[33:16] we'd like to invite you to all come.
[33:18] Hopefully you've seen this pop up on your social media,
[33:20] you're in the area, we've targeted,
[33:24] but we'd love for you to come and celebrate with us
[33:27] to honor the history that we've had and celebrate the work
[33:31] that we do, we currently have 300 beds
[33:33] into assisted living buildings in a nursing home.
[33:36] And we serve our residents with great care and great pride.
[33:40] But also on our 54 acre campus,
[33:42] we are seeking to expand.
[33:44] We want to add buildings and add beds so that we can serve even more.
[33:49] A part of that plan is also workforce housing, as we know we all need that.
[33:53] And so we'd love to have your support come and check us out.
[33:57] In addition to that, though, we would love to have you come for a tour.
[34:02] So many of our residents don't know that we're there.
[34:06] They don't know how we serve and the quality of care that we provide.
[34:10] It's not about do you want to age in place or do you want to go to a facility?
[34:14] We want people to age in places, much as you can, but what we know is sometimes we have
[34:19] family members and community members who care level exceeds what their friends and family
[34:24] can provide and often what their finances can provide.
[34:28] So that we hope that you will come and check us out, come support us.
[34:31] I will leave some information on the table out there so that you can grab an invitation
[34:36] on your way out. Thank you so much for inviting us, Mayor Wood, and we sincerely hope that you all will not only
[34:42] look into Birmingham Green, volunteer with us, support our work. Thank you.
[34:48] You got to give them an address so they can find you. Oh, it's on the floor. Yes, everything is on here.
[34:54] So you can grab it. We're 86.05 Centerville Road. 86.05 Centerville Road in Manassus.
[35:00] Thank you.
[35:04] All right, was there? Is there no more speakers? I would now have council comments. All right. Council on Peterson, you have any remarks tonight?
[35:19] Just saying that C. All the kids going back to school, watch out for them. They're out here in the streets on these corners. Be careful. That's all.
[35:26] I count some of my feels.
[35:30] Good evening, everyone.
[35:33] Yes, school has started and yes, be careful, get your loved ones off the school
[35:38] and all that good stuff and next thing you know is football season.
[35:44] Friday night football is at the, at the games, at the high schools.
[35:48] God enjoy supporting our local teams.
[35:52] Hot topic, hot topic, I want to speak a little bit about the flood cameras.
[35:59] As being a prior law enforcement, I am in much favor of the flood cameras.
[36:06] And many of you have heard me mention something that goes along like this until it happens
[36:13] to you.
[36:15] Until it happens to you that you're affected by a crime, you're affected by a loved one
[36:21] cost, you're affected by a child missing, or a person of interest that police are looking
[36:31] for, happens to come through a wonderful town of Dumfries.
[36:35] And our flower cameras can use this technology and information to track that person.
[36:43] Again, until it happens to you.
[36:46] Two years ago, my 101-year-old grandmother went missing, and yes, she was still driving.
[36:54] In the county of Denver, where I used to work as a deputy, I teamed up with the Sheriff's Office
[37:01] and on a Saturday morning after she had been missing for going on two days.
[37:06] We got information from the flock camera that she was heading in a westward direction along
[37:16] with other witness statements that they saw her going in that direction.
[37:23] Before then Friday, I covered along with other friends covered, maybe five known counties
[37:32] because we knew what grandmother liked to frequent.
[37:36] The county of Denwitty, the next county over is Brunswick County, Mecklenburg County.
[37:44] I even went all the way to Greenville County, Lawrenceville, and for you back to McKinney, Virginia.
[37:53] It wasn't in sale the next day, well, we concentrated, and we had a press conference, and I'll let a team out going westward.
[38:02] Also, a good friend of the shares took his plane up in the air and found my grandmother's vehicle
[38:10] because of the help of that flock camera.
[38:14] So again, I'll say, until it happens to you, will it become beneficial?
[38:20] We're here tonight to discuss policy that we're going to put in place
[38:27] for all officers here in the town to have strict guidelines on what to do and what not to do.
[38:35] Yes, there have been many bad actors out there, but I'll tell you one thing if a bad actor happens here,
[38:41] it's going to be dealt with, here she would be dealt with with harsh penalties and harsh consequences.
[38:47] The due respect to concerns of that people have raised about the policy and the full
[38:55] amendment. By saying that flood cameras are simply unconstitutional, goes further than
[39:01] what the courts have actually held. The full-feminine amendment protects against unreasonable
[39:08] search and seizures. It does not prohibit law enforcement from observing what is
[39:16] only exposed to public view, including a vehicle and license plate traveling on a
[39:23] public roadway. That distinction is important. In 2005, the Virginia Court of Appeals
[39:32] address Norfolk's flock system directly in commonwealth versus church.
[39:41] The court concluded that because the system photographed the defendant's vehicle and
[39:47] license plate while driving on a public road, police did not need the search warrant to
[39:53] access those particular flock cameras.
[39:56] The cover verse, the look.
[40:00] In January, 2026, a federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia considered a direct fourth
[40:10] amendment challenge to Norfolk's broader ALPR program. The case specifically addressed whether
[40:18] widespread use of automatic license plate readers to photograph vehicles on public road raise
[40:25] violated the Fourth Amendment.
[40:28] That does not mean government should have unlimited surveillance authority.
[40:34] There is a legitimate conversation to be had about how long information is retained, who can
[40:43] access it, what agencies it can be shared with, auditing requirements, misuse by individual
[40:51] officers and where the safeguards should be strengthened. Again, that's why we're here tonight.
[40:58] I support strong safeguards and accountability. Again, until it happens to you.
[41:07] But those policy concerns are different from declaring the technology itself is unconstitutional.
[41:14] There is also an important difference between a camera recorded in a vehicle at a particular
[41:21] location.
[41:21] It's going to probably grow away and the type of continuous copy here is a tracking.
[41:28] The Supreme Court has examined in cases involving GPS or historical cell phone data collecting
[41:36] information.
[41:38] So my position remains straightforward.
[41:40] We can support effective tools that help law enforcement, locate stolen vehicles, identify
[41:48] one of persons, and investigate serious crimes while also demanding strict policies protecting
[41:55] citizens.
[41:56] That's what I miss you.
[41:57] That's your time, Councilman Fils.
[41:59] I will go to move on.
[42:00] Councilman Pete.
[42:03] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[42:05] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[42:06] I just have a couple of comments this evening.
[42:09] Yes, I still don't know back at school.
[42:10] Please do watch them.
[42:12] Please do get out to our local football games or high school football games on the Fridays.
[42:21] And Potomac will be playing on Thursday this week.
[42:23] Guys, those stay in tune to these schedules of our local football teams.
[42:27] Just have a couple of follow-up items for the town manager.
[42:30] The town manager, we have several matters that the council privilege discussed for
[42:37] to follow up on. I just want to make sure that we are keeping track of them and not falling through the cracks.
[42:43] Could you give us a brief status, either tonight or on and upcoming meeting on the farmers,
[42:49] market and flea market proposal, the EDA vacancies, the trash matter for the second day update on discussion that we've had.
[43:02] the update on areas on main, where we are in the latest on that, and then also on our community center.
[43:10] If any of those have already been completed or resolved, that's fine. I'd like to know the final
[43:16] disposition. If anything that's still outstanding, I'd like to know when the council should
[43:21] expect it back. I also have one question regarding the Jeff Simpson building, and that is the,
[43:30] Even though we know it's a historical building, I've already had several multi-perverses in
[43:36] our community building.
[43:38] My question is specifically about the upstairs.
[43:41] What are the town's plans for the upstairs portion of the Jeff Simpson building?
[43:45] As we move forward with the building assessments, will that assessment help us determine what
[43:51] needs to be done to make the upstairs usable and what we're in the space?
[43:55] what can we ultimately use the space for? With that, Mr. May? I, uh, one more. On the September
[44:07] to 16th, we will be having our annual community verse to police department,
[44:25] I'll tell
[44:25] PM to eight. Again, it's on September 16th. Again, Memorial Park, marketing,
[44:32] your colleges bring the family out. This is not just a basketball game. I put
[44:38] this in place, not just so we can have a day, but so our citizens can bridge
[44:44] the gap between the citizens and our police department. At one point in time, there
[44:52] was a, we don't like.
[45:00] What could I do as a leader to amend that measure? So what I did was come up with a basketball game to where our police department can engage with our citizens every day. And they can see and have some fun with them, learn their names and faces. So that triggers back to our everyday safety. When it goes to, hey, I'll play the basketball game with, she galeed and he met me, basketball player,
[45:29] high school student Sean Pete and you know just bridging the culpability of citizens and
[45:35] police department which has been a mechanism that has been working for some years ago.
[45:43] There was a little a little disturbance on our youth at that time.
[45:47] We've been putting in measures and things in place that can help move that in a different
[45:53] direction.
[45:54] And it's been working.
[45:55] So please do, it's an exciting event.
[45:57] You'll have a great time, it's all said day on door to week
[46:02] that I chose to use the week day, as I'm not on the weekend,
[46:05] just for us.
[46:06] But come on out there and have a good time with us.
[46:08] Please come support our community being united.
[46:12] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, that's all I have for this time.
[46:14] That's me, yeah.
[46:16] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[46:17] First, again, I want to echo with other council members.
[46:20] It says, as far as watching out for the kids,
[46:22] back in school, please slow down when you see these buses. They had a couple of small, yet minor
[46:30] incidents where cars just is only passed the bus stops. As the flashing red lights were going,
[46:38] the person in public school system is aware of it and they're going to be doing some more
[46:42] to combat that or to help with that. Second, speaking of our kids, I don't know if many of you know,
[46:48] There is a extremist violent online networking group
[46:53] that's targeting children and teenagers known as 764.
[46:58] And what they're using, they're using social platforms
[47:01] and gaming platforms to speak to these kids.
[47:06] Pretty much having them to hurt themselves, harm others,
[47:11] to just do violent acts, and even to commit suicide.
[47:15] had been for one teenager in Maine who brought it to the attention of their parents who
[47:20] would then contacted the FBI. This situation would probably have been unnoticed for a good
[47:24] little while, but it's out there now. So please, please watch the actions of the kids.
[47:29] Always check in order. You're the parent, check in order. You may be an auntie. You may be
[47:33] an uncle, check in order. It's not as intrusion. Just make sure that they're safe.
[47:38] Third, like the note, this Hispanic heritage month, celebrating the history and culture of the contributions to our town and community that our Hispanics and Latino community has had on our town and our community.
[47:56] And finally, Mr. Mayor, and everyone here, I am so excited to announce that the town of Dumfries is proud to launch our Labour of Love.
[48:07] We can. It's a community service initiative that helps eligible homeowners to combine the home repairs home improvements and different projects that may have around a house and no labor cost whatsoever.
[48:21] This is to us. So if you're looking to volunteer.
[48:24] I'm having this Saturday.
[48:26] You can meet me here.
[48:28] Meet me here.
[48:29] Meet us here, between 7.
[48:30] 7.45.
[48:32] If you want to volunteer.
[48:34] And this we have a collection of our town staff,
[48:37] myself along with other neighbors in the community.
[48:40] If you want to be able to volunteer,
[48:42] please email events at events.
[48:46] I'm sorry.
[48:47] Events at dumprees.com.
[48:51] I'm sorry.
[48:51] That goes.
[48:52] Sorry.
[48:53] It's like a side of sight and I'm sorry, the events at Dumfries VA.gov, if you
[48:58] willing to volunteer, you can find the information from there and we'll get everything in.
[49:03] To do a small background check, just to make sure that we will be going into
[49:07] people's property.
[49:08] Now, to their home, but into their properties, which want to make sure that everything is
[49:11] there.
[49:12] All right.
[49:13] And with that, Mr. Mayor, I thank you for your time.
[49:16] Thank you, sir.
[49:17] Chef Ota.
[49:18] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[49:19] Good evening, everyone.
[49:20] Thank you for joining us, whether you're here in person or
[49:22] watching from home, definitely appreciate your support and tuning in. Everyone is down
[49:28] off to a great school year as big for many parents out there when I argued that this is
[49:33] the most wonderful time of the year. So the kids are back at school and everything's well,
[49:37] I do want to thank the chief and the Dumfries Police Department because I have seen you when we
[49:42] talk about looking out for the kids, I've seen the officers out, my name is Rouse,
[49:47] we're children are walking to school, making sure they get their safely making sure
[49:51] things around this movie so I do want to thank the police department for their work on that.
[50:00] I hope everyone is ready to enjoy the upcoming long weekend. Tonight, I do want to take a moment to share
[50:08] something that is both a tremendous honor and a deeply personal issue for me. It was recently
[50:13] appointed by Governor Spamberger to serve or in the Commonwealth of Virginia's Board of Medical
[50:17] Assistant Services, which provides policy oversight and guidance to Virginia's Medicaid program. This
[50:24] is an opportunity to help give a voice to the families and communities whose lives are directly
[50:28] impacted by our healthcare system. As the mother of a son with a disability, I understand
[50:34] personally what it means for our family to have to depend on access to quality healthcare,
[50:38] services and supports. Those experiences help shape my commitment to public service and
[50:43] I believe that access to healthcare can determine whether our family simply survives or has
[50:48] the opportunity to thrive. Medicaid serves children, seniors, people with disabilities,
[50:54] pregnant women, working families, and some of our most vulnerable neighbors. I was actually
[50:58] really excited to hear from Birmingham rain and night because a lot of people are unaware of
[51:04] Medicaid's role in caring for individuals who have those ailments and you know we need to support
[51:10] organizations like yourself and I'm really excited to hear from y'all and I can't wait to
[51:15] enjoy your facility.
[51:19] And
[51:23] the thing that I'm most proud of with this appointment is that
[51:32] take this community with me. I had use every opportunity to advocate to learn into influence policy
[51:40] to make sure dumpries as well as communities similar to dumpries are seeing her represented and
[51:47] respected. So I'm excited to get to work and I can't wait to give more report back and with that I will
[51:55] Thank you.
[51:57] Good evening, Duffers.
[51:59] Here we are in September.
[52:00] And I want to start out by saying thank you.
[52:04] Thank you to our staff.
[52:05] Thank you to our police department.
[52:07] Thank you to public works.
[52:09] The parks and civic engagement, volunteers,
[52:12] our businesses and our residents who continue to just show up.
[52:17] And to help move this town forward.
[52:19] A lot of things.
[52:20] We have a lot of moving parts happening in the town of Duffers right now, but I want us all to remember that all of this work is tied back to the vision that this council adopted for our town a well managed government and engage community and a thriving community well managed government means that we plan ahead we go after outside resources we protect our taxpayer dollars and we make sure that the work we do
[52:50] today, puts the town of Dumfries in a stronger position, a well managed government.
[52:57] That's why I want to recognize, you know, our police department for going out and securing
[53:03] the grant funding to bring additional public safety tools to our community.
[53:09] We should always encourage all about departments to pursue those outside resources that
[53:14] and help us do more without putting the full burden
[53:18] or the taxpayers.
[53:20] It also means that we gotta stay willing to listen.
[53:26] We gotta stay willing to adjust
[53:28] and to make sure that our public has confidence
[53:32] in how those tools are gonna be used.
[53:37] That brings me to an engaged community, right?
[53:40] September, we gave out a few proclamations
[53:43] I've been asked for my national prepared this month.
[53:46] We will celebrate sickle cell awareness and Hispanic might at the next meeting.
[53:51] These observations are more their recognition.
[53:56] They're reminders to see one another, to learn from one another, to prepare together
[54:03] and to make sure people know that their voice is matters.
[54:07] because engagement is not just about coming to a council meeting, it's about showing up for your neighbors, it's about asking questions, it's about being informed and it's about helping shape the future of the place that we all call home and then there's the thriving community.
[54:26] We recently celebrated our opening and the written cutting of the first Tesla Supercharger station here at the town of Dumpfries at the Wawa.
[54:36] We did a zero emissions fleet.
[54:39] We had an intern come in.
[54:41] That's another small but meaningful sign of where the town of Dumpfries is going.
[54:46] We are building not a place that simply people are going to drive through but a place that people are going to drive to.
[54:53] So tonight was on the hear about how our history can become part of our economic future.
[55:00] Being Virginia's oldest continuously charter town should not just be something we say, it should be something we can see, we can experience support and invest in.
[55:10] And before September's over, we'll take another step towards building the thriving community through our economic mobility on September 30th.
[55:17] We're going to kick off the mayor's legacy initiative. This opportunity was made possible through the grant support for the African-American Mayor's Association,
[55:26] and it's work to build economic mobility and underserved communities.
[55:32] And for me, legacy is not simply about what we lead behind.
[55:35] It's about what we help people build while we're here.
[55:38] It's about ownership.
[55:39] It's about preparation.
[55:41] It's about creating pathways where families protect what they have work for and build something they can reach the next generations.
[55:47] So I hope our residents to stay connected.
[55:49] We can share more information about the September 30th kick off soon.
[55:53] We heard about the September 12th.
[55:55] single-scout ceremony at our Duffy Slaves Cemetery. As we move it to the next season, I want
[56:02] us to keep the bigger picture in front of us. Remember well-managed, engaged, and thriving. Those
[56:09] are not just words on the strategic plan. They're the standard we should measure ourselves against.
[56:14] And before I close, let me leave you with a little food for thought. Growth is easy to celebrate
[56:20] when you see the ribbon cutting.
[56:23] But leadership usually happens long before the ribbon.
[56:27] It happens in the planet, it happens in the uncomfortable questions.
[56:31] It happens in a decision that they don't make headlines.
[56:35] And it happens when we choose to build something that will outlast us.
[56:38] People see fruit.
[56:40] They don't always see the roots.
[56:42] So let us keep knowing this root work up here.
[56:44] Let us keep building something strong enough for the next generation of stand-on.
[56:48] Thank you.
[56:49] And let's get to work.
[56:52] With that said, we'll have our first report in presentation.
[56:56] And that had come from the historical feasibility study
[56:59] by the National Travel Center team.
[57:04] Good evening.
[57:05] And I'm going to try to make this technology behave.
[57:12] I understand you have the presentation on screens in front of you.
[57:17] Yeah, OK.
[57:19] So let's see if this will actually work.
[57:22] Nope.
[57:26] There we go.
[57:27] Okay. You're going to get well more than a study from here because we've been studying
[57:34] the history and I know I've got 10 minutes, so this has got to go pretty quickly.
[57:38] We've been studying the history since we started this project. You have absolutely fascinating
[57:42] history and going all the way from 1690 to today. I mean it's just, it's amazing. And we work with
[57:49] a lot of historic small towns and fields that have such a continuum that can be featured.
[58:00] So the feasibility study is actually going to result in a plan that's going to make
[58:04] don't freeze a destination.
[58:08] I'm a planner, I had learned economic development at the World Bank and it been in tourism
[58:13] for about 30 years.
[58:14] It's foundational to economic development, absolutely foundational.
[58:17] And so, what we're going to be doing is helping you be not just to place the past through by making the town able to tell its history and building it into the town where we can do that.
[58:33] So, highlight of this one implementation of a robust tourism development plan, a tourism marketing plan, a tourism effort will actually support all elements of the vision in the plan.
[58:43] It's
[58:49] also a way to implement the residence priorities.
[58:52] We read that residents express downtown Frishod Lane into a historic character, potential
[58:58] for economic growth through cultural and commercial development, focused on creating arts,
[59:03] Mainstrate.
[59:04] And so a portion of the plan will focus on ways in which to turn Mainstrate into a historic
[59:10] corridor that tells the story of Dumperies from 1694, and more visitors attract more
[59:17] restaurants and boutique shopping and those are usually benefit to the community residents as well.
[59:28] So what do visitors bring to down for each?
[59:32] Unencumbered tax revenues that you can use however you want to use them because you don't have to build
[59:37] hospitals and schools or anything else for visitors they don't need to create services.
[59:42] So there are money that you can spend on helping your community residents or children or anything else that you choose to do.
[59:49] More meals and restaurants, shoppers, stores, hotel stays and as I said, they're foundational to attracting new residents because nobody
[1:00:00] And they look at what it's going to be like to live here and not just any business incentives, et cetera.
[1:00:07] So, an attractive and thriving downtown, may also attract new residents who visit put it in a, considered moving to don't freeze.
[1:00:19] And moving on, visitor market for town freezes absolutely huge.
[1:00:26] You sit in the middle of 65 million people in the typical driving radius to a destination.
[1:00:35] That is more than we normally find, but you're in the middle of a number of metropolitan areas.
[1:00:44] And 81% of those adults travel.
[1:00:46] This is the most educated and a fluent visitor market in the United States.
[1:00:51] You could not be placed any better than you are.
[1:00:54] There's also 62 million heritage tourism visitors in the U.S. and they travel all over the place.
[1:01:02] Economic conditions don't stop these people from traveling.
[1:01:07] They have, they need regular breaks to go somewhere, take leisure time, relax and think about something other than work.
[1:01:18] And they engage in a story to engage their minds and disconnect from their work.
[1:01:26] So they're educated, they want to understand the history, they want to read about the history,
[1:01:31] they want to get involved in actually what the story is.
[1:01:38] The study will illustrate the potential impact of the visitor's deliveries.
[1:01:46] And what we will do through it is we're going to be, we're going to be able, putting together
[1:01:51] economic business case for you to be able to go to shops and restaurant owners and, you know,
[1:01:59] other investors in the town and also try to help the residents understand that visitors are
[1:02:05] an economic asset.
[1:02:09] So that they, so that everybody can understand and be welcoming them.
[1:02:19] What other usable and useful information will the study deliver? We don't just do studies and
[1:02:26] strategies. Some of us have been doing this kind of thing for over 30 years. We've been
[1:02:32] in the jobs. I've done this as an actual professional for three years in the town. And
[1:02:39] we need to deliver you an actual implementable work product so that you have a roadmap to start
[1:02:48] with what you can and can do and then move on from there.
[1:02:56] So that's going to include targeting visitor markets, tours and development, plan and marketing
[1:03:01] plan, plan of how to organize and manage a tours method and an action plan that tells
[1:03:09] what has to happen monthly quarterly and annually to accomplish the goals that we will
[1:03:16] helps set together.
[1:03:19] So the town's going to receive all this specific information.
[1:03:25] Plus, more specific useful information.
[1:03:29] What we envision is you have a lot of historical markers
[1:03:36] and all that.
[1:03:37] We've tracked that there are 26 around town.
[1:03:39] We've actually found that they all exist there.
[1:03:42] But you only got six, I start building still standing in various places, and so we're looking
[1:03:49] for locations around town where we can build the story into town, so they'll get visitors
[1:03:57] through, and things like a walking tour, we're actually going to lay one out, the stops
[1:04:04] for a potential on the right bus tour, descriptions of the little locations on all of those
[1:04:10] All of those places, potential locations
[1:04:13] are start trails, links to the current trail
[1:04:16] and greenway plans.
[1:04:19] And then today's visitors are busy.
[1:04:22] So basically, I tend to reason and trails
[1:04:24] that will connect you with the surrounding in a 30 mile
[1:04:30] radius, because travelers will go 30 miles from a home base
[1:04:34] to explore something they want to.
[1:04:38] And so all trails can lead to dumpries.
[1:04:40] within that 30 mile radius, you all have 340 other historic sites that is absolutely amazing, but don't
[1:05:00] Then we'll get that kind of wealth of, so the itineraries and such will connect all those other towns and then comes through here so that we can have tourism coming in.
[1:05:12] And the historic district application, if we can do find enough complying properties because you have to have more complying properties than not, if we do that.
[1:05:23] That's basically a preservation district.
[1:05:26] There are all kinds of other economic financial types of arrangements that you also can do.
[1:05:35] And one of the things I want to make clear is that heritage and cultural tourism visitors
[1:05:43] aren't going to all of a sudden, there's not going to be this huge influx over running the town.
[1:05:48] This kind of builds and builds and builds, so you'll be able to create the capacity of the same time that tourism is growing.
[1:05:58] So our role of the sleeves approach as a big car, if we spend the time necessary to get the work done, the spreadsheet indicates 512 hours.
[1:06:08] It'll probably be more than that, because we're a big car, we will only build the knot to exceed.
[1:06:14] We involve, there's 14 of us scattered around the United States.
[1:06:18] I happen to be the CEO of those wonderful people.
[1:06:21] And we involve other people with the expertise as we need them.
[1:06:25] Significant county or community engagement.
[1:06:29] Devon I will be back on the 14th, 15th and 16th and literally one's top people.
[1:06:37] That's how we find out what people's aspirations are.
[1:06:40] And those are very, very important to any project.
[1:06:42] There's important to success, and we're going to have to do considerable digging in historical
[1:06:49] records to make sure that we're able to unearth all the real history.
[1:06:56] Action Plan, that's feasible, doable, and implementable, and ever clientely help find
[1:07:02] money because the plan is only a plan until there's funding, so that's one of the things
[1:07:07] that we're pretty well known for.
[1:07:12] Whoops.
[1:07:13] There was a last one on there.
[1:07:16] This is your project.
[1:07:18] We bring the experience to help make it successful
[1:07:21] and we specialize in assisting small towns and communities.
[1:07:26] Increase their economic prospects.
[1:07:29] You all are way.
[1:07:30] I have some of the situations we get involved in.
[1:07:34] and have lots of opportunity and capacity to move forward.
[1:07:41] Any and all questions are okay.
[1:07:43] All right, council, any questions?
[1:07:45] Thank you very much.
[1:07:47] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:07:48] Quick question.
[1:07:49] How many of you said that need to complying locations?
[1:07:52] How many locations are required for historic district application?
[1:07:56] Pardon me.
[1:07:57] You were saying that you need to complying locations.
[1:08:00] If we do a formalized historic district.
[1:08:05] Okay, so how many are required to have a historic location?
[1:08:10] Any specific number you just have?
[1:08:12] That's the nature of the mic so they can hear you.
[1:08:14] Well, I'm sorry.
[1:08:17] You just have to have complying structures,
[1:08:26] and then there has to be more of those than non complying structures
[1:08:30] because every historic town has not
[1:08:32] complying as well as complying.
[1:08:34] Right, and that's what they're asking is
[1:08:35] how many are required for you to have it?
[1:08:38] There's no specific number.
[1:08:41] You can have four complying and three not.
[1:08:46] They're just has to be the majority of complying.
[1:08:48] Okay.
[1:08:49] All right.
[1:08:49] Thank you.
[1:08:51] So I have a second.
[1:08:55] Any other questions?
[1:08:58] Thank you for your presentation.
[1:09:00] I'm curious, I guess at the end of a study like this, what are three things that you hope a community can do when they're finished with one of your studies?
[1:09:13] It's definitely dumb for you. What are three things you hope for us at the end of the study?
[1:09:17] I appreciate the whole scope of your history and have everybody embrace it and be proud of the continuum and diversity and all the other things that this has.
[1:09:29] this town has from his historic standpoint. Second of all, there's a sort of recognition that
[1:09:40] the more places you tell the story in town, the more the more story you can tell and the more people
[1:09:48] will actually get out walk around interact and such. And the third one, we want you to be successful
[1:09:56] on tours. That's the whole point of all.
[1:10:00] This is your town. The economic prosperity that visitors can deliver is foundational to diversifying
[1:10:13] the tax base and all of those other things that can happen.
[1:10:18] So I guess what that being said,
[1:10:23] what should the public investment be versus, what should
[1:10:28] philanthropic, you know, whatever, like what's the, the mix of investment should there be.
[1:10:35] For brothers or not, until we get away further into it.
[1:10:38] All right.
[1:10:39] But you want to, you want to get there.
[1:10:41] This is Virginia.
[1:10:42] They take pretty good care of historic resource,
[1:10:44] and else have a competent tourism department.
[1:10:47] And so you want to tap their resources as much as possible.
[1:10:51] They've got funding programs and all kinds of a major major promotional effort.
[1:10:56] that they're really good at. So, no, I mean, we appreciate you because I believe our history can't
[1:11:03] just be something we preserve. It has to be something that people experience. Absolutely.
[1:11:07] Duffers was the county seat. You know, so we have this site for the old historic courthouse. We
[1:11:13] we had a major port that used to rival Baltimore Philadelphia with the tundit to tobacco. So,
[1:11:19] I'd love to help with some kind of re-enactment on the new property. I mean, there are so as
[1:11:24] Mr. Vine said earlier there's so few of that kind of thing actually in the area something that gets people involved in understanding
[1:11:32] What when you were to back up for it and that was as important as New York and Philadelphia
[1:11:39] How do we show that in in living history?
[1:11:43] So thank you. I'm looking forward to your your reporting is steady. Oh, sorry
[1:11:47] You got another one council repeat sorry. Thank you, Mr. Mayor
[1:11:53] As I look at this report
[1:11:55] When I was reviewing it, a couple of days ago,
[1:12:01] it kind of upset me a little bit.
[1:12:04] I'm sorry, can you speak up so I can hear you?
[1:12:07] When I was looking at this report a couple of days ago,
[1:12:10] it kind of upset me a little bit.
[1:12:14] And when I listen to you historians come up here
[1:12:16] and speak on the history of the town of Dumfries,
[1:12:19] it always starts with a port.
[1:12:24] As I've dug into the history of the Dumfries,
[1:12:26] The history of Dumfries doesn't stop with a port.
[1:12:32] The history of Dumfries started with the Doe and the Potomac Indians that were here before.
[1:12:38] Can you agree?
[1:12:40] So it bothers me when I see stuff like this.
[1:12:45] It bothers me when I count 39 car cages on a presentation and I see one black lady here in
[1:12:55] a back picture with her back turn that bothers me.
[1:13:01] Oh, I said, if there's a chance that you guys
[1:13:03] were able to present to us again,
[1:13:05] that we have some diversity within our presentation.
[1:13:11] Certainly so, and we're back to the back to the mic, sorry.
[1:13:17] With that, Mr. Mayor.
[1:13:18] I'm sorry.
[1:13:19] I'm sorry.
[1:13:21] There was no fence whatsoever intended
[1:13:24] with that break. I be honest. My own family, we have five adopted none, Caucasian children.
[1:13:38] That's, that's fine, man, but I'm speaking up when you guys, when you historicians come
[1:13:42] up here and present to us. We don't know that you have five. We understand that and we're
[1:13:48] going all the way back to the Native Americans. Can we please start, I mean, that that, that
[1:13:53] or here. Yes. Oh, because that was the start. That's where you're, that's where the years, that's
[1:13:59] when the first settlers moved in here, there was African American, American communities
[1:14:05] in this area. Yeah, we talk, yes, ma'am, let's talk. Yeah. So, yes, that's part of the diversity.
[1:14:12] And your town is incredibly diverse. But we're incredibly cognitive, so many mentioned
[1:14:22] We put together the heritage and underground railroad by Wayne Pennsylvania, and we're told basically that we were not allowed to tell all those stories and we said, that's the story.
[1:14:35] You guys were told, it's y'all can tell those stories?
[1:14:38] Pardon me.
[1:14:41] Yeah.
[1:14:41] And we did, we put together 10 documents, stories that were incredibly impactful, the told
[1:14:48] the real story, and they've been phenomenally well received.
[1:14:56] Okay, well, like I said, if there's ever a chance to present.
[1:15:00] If you guys could please bring back the original beginning history, we will do that, because that's
[1:15:07] part of the campaign, you need to you need to tell in the town.
[1:15:13] Thank you for coming with a forward to seeing you. With that said, I'm going to take a five-minute
[1:15:18] stretch back from breaking. We'll come back, recess.
[1:22:32] All right, next in the agenda, we'll have Prince William County Water come on up to the podium. The floor is yours. As here about all it is, good work you've done in our community. We saw the roads tour. We saw and put that together.
[1:22:47] All right, and now we're excited to hear a data on where we are.
[1:22:51] Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor, and members of the Council. Thanks for inviting us to share with you to introduce you or maybe remind you about Prince William Water.
[1:23:00] My name is Don Panel, I'm the Deputy General Manager and Chief Operations Officer at Prince William Water.
[1:23:05] I want to acknowledge to my really sharp colleagues, Michelle Miranda and Ronnie Avelos, who are here as well.
[1:23:12] So I'm just going to touch on a few things about Prince William Water and give you a few resources and certainly give you some places you can connect with us.
[1:23:22] Because there's a lot we can talk about and I want to respect your time this evening.
[1:23:27] Our mission is a little bit unique, we're a water utility, and we take a lot of pride in running a very professional organization, you want us to run a professional organization to make sure we deliver clean water to you and your citizens every day.
[1:23:45] You want to make sure we run a utility in a sustainable way. At the same time, we have a critical public health mission.
[1:23:53] We protect public health and the environment, so we're the only utility that delivers a product to your home that you ingest and it affects your health personally, so we take that responsibility very, very seriously.
[1:24:07] We'll leave you with these slides because I know there's a lot of small print on this slide, but what this slide illustrates is the immense investment and infrastructure that it takes to run a well-run water and wastewater utility.
[1:24:22] you see in the upper right corner $1.2 billion worth of assets, that's book value, our replacement
[1:24:30] value for all those pipes and pumps and tanks is probably close to $3 billion. That's a significant
[1:24:37] amount of infrastructure that goes into delivering great service to you. The mayor had asked us
[1:24:46] to remind you where your water comes from in the town of Dumfries, so I want to take a minute
[1:24:51] talk about it because it's a really interesting story and it's important. We'd like to
[1:24:55] use this phrase from source to tap and back again if you track.
[1:25:00] Back this graphic, our water that we originally pull comes from the Potomac River, up near Ashburn actually.
[1:25:08] That water is treated delivered to homes in western Pennsylvania County, then that wastewater is collected,
[1:25:16] treated at a state-of-the-art wastewater treatment facility in Cinerville, returned to the Aquan reservoir,
[1:25:23] where that water is then withdrawn again at the Griffith Water Treatment Plant over in
[1:25:29] Lorton and delivered to eastern Prince William County here in Dumfries included.
[1:25:35] And then we treat that wastewater after it's used in homes at our mooney advanced water
[1:25:42] reclamation facility on Ripon Boulevard and return it back to the Potomac River.
[1:25:47] So that same water makes a very long and crucial journey from the Potomac River
[1:25:53] to serve homes through the aquaquan and then back to the Potomac River.
[1:26:01] We've just come through the summer and you heard probably a lot of conversation about drought.
[1:26:07] So I wanted to, I know this is a really, this, this, this heart can you back to high school science, probably.
[1:26:13] So, um, so give me a little grace on that, but what I wanted to illustrate with this and I probably don't have a pointer,
[1:26:18] but while we're sitting here in the town of Dumfries and enjoying great drinking water,
[1:26:26] what's crucial for us in terms of drought is actually the rainfall that falls in West Virginia,
[1:26:34] Western Maryland and the Western part in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.
[1:26:39] So all that watershed feeds the Potomac River. So when we're concerned about drought, we're actually
[1:26:47] not concerned about how much rainfall is falling here in Prince William County.
[1:26:52] We're concerned about how much rainfall is falling far west in the head waters of the
[1:26:57] Psyllumac River.
[1:27:00] I know that causes some confusion for people, but this is a regional system and you can
[1:27:05] see at the little note there.
[1:27:07] The Potomac watershed covers 11th over 11,000 square miles, primarily in the west, and
[1:27:13] services are drinking water source primarily.
[1:27:17] I'll skip past this. This is a great resource for you
[1:27:20] to chew on in the future, but just emphasizes our key role in the health of the Chesapeake Bay.
[1:27:27] If you've tracked the amazing rebound of the health of the Chesapeake Bay, we're proud to have been
[1:27:33] a strong part of that for over 40 years. The work we've done at our advanced water reclamation facility,
[1:27:40] just up the road here is absolutely phenomenal.
[1:27:44] We're very proud of our role.
[1:27:48] Again, protecting water quality is paramount.
[1:27:53] We're, we put a ton of emphasis on drinking water quality and wastewater compliance.
[1:27:59] You can see there, there's top two bullets.
[1:28:02] We have 100% drinking water compliance and 100% water, wastewater permit compliance.
[1:28:07] I'll touch on that permit compliance a little bit more.
[1:28:10] But the other things I wanted to highlight on this slide
[1:28:13] are that we really rely on partnerships,
[1:28:16] partnerships with you here in the town,
[1:28:19] partnerships with our regulators in Richmond
[1:28:22] and across the state, partnerships with Fairfax Water,
[1:28:26] who is just an absolutely essential partner for us,
[1:28:30] a couple of highlights in recent years.
[1:28:33] If you've tracked the news,
[1:28:35] there are emerging water quality challenges.
[1:28:38] As we learn more about water quality, that affords us the opportunity to face new challenges.
[1:28:46] One of those new challenges is called PFAS.
[1:28:49] If you've seen headlines about forever chemicals, I won't try to pronounce what PFAS stands for.
[1:28:57] But it's an important constituent that is in many pharmaceuticals.
[1:29:02] It's in your mascara.
[1:29:03] It's in your fast food wrappers, and once it's in the environment, it persists, hence the name of forever chemical.
[1:29:11] We are taking real active steps with our partners to protect the aquacone from PFAS contamination.
[1:29:20] And we're happy to say we got a house bill passed two years ago of house bill 2050, which takes steps far beyond what the EPA is implementing to make sure we protect the aquacone.
[1:29:31] That's stewards of that essential resource.
[1:29:36] You got a QR code there at the bottom.
[1:29:38] We invite you to hit that anytime you want.
[1:29:41] We publish a lot of great information about our water quality.
[1:29:45] And we're also, there's plenty of links on there.
[1:29:48] We're happy to talk to you if you've got questions about our water quality.
[1:29:51] Anything you've read in the headline and you want to know what's going on.
[1:29:54] We want to make sure you have the latest information.
[1:29:58] Um...
[1:30:00] In addition to running a great water utility, which I'm proud to say we do, we take our role as environmental
[1:30:07] ambassadors really seriously as well. A couple of the campaigns that we're really promoting,
[1:30:14] Michelle and her team doing an amazing job of getting the word out through social media, through
[1:30:20] school platforms. Don't flush the wipes. We're operating a lot of infrastructure. I talked about
[1:30:28] dollars invested in the pipes and pumps. Those flushable wipes are not flushable. They create
[1:30:35] incredible maintenance problems for us. So we're trying to get the word out. We find this to be
[1:30:40] really effective to get the word to the kids and the kids influence the behavior of the parents.
[1:30:47] Another one of our standard campaigns when winter becomes, we don't want your pipes to freeze.
[1:30:53] We want you to know how to take care of your home premise plumbing. So we put a lot of emphasis on
[1:30:59] I want to spend a second talking about salt smart.
[1:31:04] One of the threats to freshwater all across the U.S.
[1:31:08] and, frankly, across the world is salonization.
[1:31:12] The use of salts by humans releases salt into the environment.
[1:31:18] Once that salt is in drinking water, it stays.
[1:31:21] You can't make salty water unsalted.
[1:31:23] You can treat the water, but the aquacuan, as a prime example, has an increasing level of salts.
[1:31:32] It's not a problem today, it won't be a problem tomorrow, but 50 years from now it will be a problem if we don't change some behaviors.
[1:31:39] One of the primary sources of salts and salinization in the aquacuan is winter deicing activities over 50% of the salt load that comes into the aquacuan comes from road salting for winter deicing.
[1:31:55] So, we've got to put some emphasis on some best practices and find some product substitutions.
[1:32:01] So, this is a campaign you're going to see us hit for many years to come.
[1:32:06] So, we try to change some behaviors around salt.
[1:32:11] A lot of activity, I won't spend a lot of time, but I do want to hit the last bullet here
[1:32:16] that advanced water reclamation facility on Ripon Boulevard,
[1:32:20] it's called the Monit Plant, it's a state of the art plant.
[1:32:24] It has achieved perfect permit compliance for 17 straight years.
[1:32:30] Some of you are familiar when a child is born and you say,
[1:32:34] oh, it's a healthy baby that's in the 99th percentile.
[1:32:37] Well, our 17 year perfect permit compliance puts that plant
[1:32:41] in the 99.5% of top-performing water plants in the country.
[1:32:50] So we're super proud of what we're doing there.
[1:32:52] It's got a lot of work going on there right now about $178 million investment
[1:32:56] to make sure that that plant is there for the next decades to come.
[1:33:01] Just a few pictures of some of the incredible work going on there.
[1:33:05] And just really proud of that work.
[1:33:09] All the while, we're still maintaining perfect permit
[1:33:12] compliance.
[1:33:13] If you've ever had renovations, furniture, house,
[1:33:15] you can know it's hard to run a home
[1:33:17] when the kitchen's torn up,
[1:33:19] but that's exactly what we're doing there at that plant.
[1:33:24] Here's some ways you can connect with us.
[1:33:26] We're always there through various platforms.
[1:33:29] I see my times about to run out.
[1:33:32] So please contact us whenever you've got questions,
[1:33:34] So we're there for you, certainly happy to answer any questions or touch on any topics that
[1:33:40] are of interest.
[1:33:43] All right.
[1:33:44] Council, what do you use it?
[1:33:46] Hard water.
[1:33:48] I've got a lot of people in my community talking about this water.
[1:33:51] Is this what we're drinking and do you have any solutions on what we can do to correct it?
[1:33:56] Are you planning on correcting it or anything like that?
[1:33:59] The water that we pull from the aquan is slightly hard, is not considered extremely
[1:34:04] hard if if you've got some premise plumbing with some age that could be contributing we're happy
[1:34:10] to come down and do a sample and try to give you some advice. Water softening on the premise
[1:34:17] is an option for some people but we caution that that's an expense first of all and if they're
[1:34:24] not maintained properly they can actually cause a degradation degradation of the water quality.
[1:34:29] So, happy to speak with it, to take our customers.
[1:34:35] It's all of us, and we're pretty new.
[1:34:37] I'm here in the Highland Park area.
[1:34:38] I think I've been here for maybe five years,
[1:34:40] and it's been like this since I've been there.
[1:34:44] What kind of symptoms are you seeing?
[1:34:50] That I mean feel different.
[1:34:51] I can clean that toilet three times,
[1:34:55] and it's brown all the way around.
[1:34:57] As soon as I come back up, the water is big.
[1:35:00] All right, I just hope that's not what I'm thinking. But I think we need to investigate that. Is it up as our brown or is it a pink blue always not pink.
[1:35:10] Okay.
[1:35:11] I don't think brown was pink. Yes, no, it's not pink. It's like a rust color. It's bad in area.
[1:35:17] Yeah. I don't know if it's here, but I know in Highland Park it's terrible. And it's like a community thing that we go outside and talk about.
[1:35:24] So, I mean, I've tried every time, follow up on that, follow up on that, and send some technicians out to take a look and try to understand what's going on there.
[1:35:34] But I don't know, I don't think it's just how the park does anybody else have the problem.
[1:35:37] Yes, yes.
[1:35:38] Yeah.
[1:35:39] Same thing over here.
[1:35:40] Okay.
[1:35:40] So that's how I mean, I want you to come to how the park is.
[1:35:43] Sure.
[1:35:45] I think it's the whole area.
[1:35:47] Okay.
[1:35:47] Yeah, I'm not recalling complaints or concerns.
[1:35:54] Certainly we do our annual flushing program and don't know any special concerns, but certainly
[1:36:01] we want to investigate that.
[1:36:02] Okay, thank you.
[1:36:05] Jasmy Pete.
[1:36:07] Pete Faest.
[1:36:09] Yeah.
[1:36:09] Put it in.
[1:36:10] I remember reading up on this sometime last year.
[1:36:13] the portfolio, floor rides, soil, the KYL, that's how it does happen. Pretty much identified it.
[1:36:23] But my take on it is one thing, and it was always my concern, because you did hit on it,
[1:36:29] and you spoke on to the winterization, right? And when we use them these salt,
[1:36:34] and my only question is, have you heard or know of any other methods that has been
[1:36:39] has been talked about or become an address to counter what we currently use at now across the
[1:36:47] whole nation pretty much. So V dot at the direction of the state general assembly V dot prepared
[1:36:55] a pretty good study handful of years ago to look at alternatives to traditional rock salt.
[1:37:02] There are some, you see the white lines on the roads during the winter that VDOT uses.
[1:37:09] VDOT really does take steps to try to minimize the excess salt that's used.
[1:37:16] But even the beet juice that they're using that causes those lines contains chlorides.
[1:37:21] So when that beet juice washes off, it's still adding to the salt content, not to the extent
[1:37:26] that the rock salt does.
[1:37:28] Okay, so look at my, my, my, my apology for cutting you right there, but did you, you just do another one in there beat juice and we, I remember time as we spoke about this last year, would you recommend beat juice or priming I am not the experts, okay, okay, the best practice that V dot is using is to use the beat juice in lieu of traditional rock salt, okay, so, so I, you know, I certainly, we follow those recommendations.
[1:37:58] things. The thing I highlight though is that about 50% of the pavement sidewalks, parking lots,
[1:38:07] are not VDOT streets. They're private streets, so we really got to get those best practices
[1:38:12] to, you know, all the apartment complex is the shopping centers. And just as me personally talking,
[1:38:21] And I think we're going to have to grapple with, do we have to have every road cleared within
[1:38:27] four hours of the storm?
[1:38:28] Or can we have a balance between how much salt we applied to the roads and whatever
[1:38:35] form versus, and certainly we're all about safety, but maybe in time there's a balance between
[1:38:44] staying home for a few hours versus a plan of salts.
[1:38:47] Okay, all right, thank you very much for the presentation and also taking a next step measure to look into what we're drinking
[1:38:57] And also as we're preparing for upcoming winter months as well. So again, thank you. And with that Mr. Mayor, are you?
[1:39:07] Thank you for really taking the time to really come out. And I know
[1:39:14] especially in my work in like African-American mayors. I'm on the infrastructure and transportation.
[1:39:19] I know a lot of people don't look at water as infrastructure. Most of people look at roads and buildings and stuff.
[1:39:26] One of the things I'm hearing from other mayors and other localities is they don't have the money to replace that infrastructure.
[1:39:35] And they're struggling to, I mean, we see what happened in Flint, Jackson, Mississippi,
[1:39:41] with some of those localities with their infrastructure.
[1:39:44] I mean, within the last 10 years, you're going to have went through and replaced all of those
[1:39:49] pipes and make sure that our PSI is great, make sure that our pipes are much better.
[1:39:56] And so we appreciate the money and investment.
[1:40:00] Yep, we have seen an increase in our water bills. But we understand, you know, that's the cost of
[1:40:07] doing business, right, of replacing that infrastructure and going out there. So it beats the
[1:40:12] alternative of what we've seen. So I just appreciate the proactive work you're doing as I get
[1:40:21] to see kind of in here from other locality. So I, and I hear some of their problems and I see how far
[1:40:27] ahead. We are in doing the work. So I just wanted to, you know, just give you that
[1:40:32] observation from serving on some of those committees to see. I appreciate that.
[1:40:37] Appreciate that. All right. Thank you very much.
[1:40:42] All right. Next on our agenda is the
[1:40:50] I'll see.
[1:41:40] Did he ask Paul in the policy of you guys of all of a copy of the recent
[1:41:46] policy?
[1:41:48] Do you guys want to cover everything or do you guys have questions about the new policy?
[1:41:55] So the first change that we did was change the policy number.
[1:41:59] should have been 427, instead of 428,
[1:42:10] the audit, the audit trail, obviously is the hot topic,
[1:42:14] a lot of stuff in the, in the system for, I'll see, I don't know if you guys seen the news
[1:42:20] where a flock of change, their policy to 7, 7 days, that's for moving forward, I think 21 days
[1:42:27] is still a good policy to have just because if you leave for vacation for 7 to 10 days, you
[1:42:33] I don't know how college to want to have that stuff as something was to happen in your house during that time period.
[1:42:37] So I think it's important to stay with the 21 day policy for us.
[1:42:46] We took out probable calls for number four upon receiving an LPR alert.
[1:42:54] It's a reasonable suspicion
[1:43:00] under E and immediately new or expanded products or capabilities may not be activated
[1:43:06] if merely because they are offered by the vendor,
[1:43:09] they must be purchased or otherwise authored
[1:43:10] and undergo appropriate administrative legal policy
[1:43:13] and an required town council review.
[1:43:19] Also given under access and queries,
[1:43:23] the town manager may be granted administrative oversight
[1:43:25] access after completing the required training
[1:43:27] such access or we limited to a program oversight,
[1:43:29] all to review, authorized use of review, policy compliance,
[1:43:35] and system configuration review, administrative access,
[1:43:38] should not authorize investigative services and list the services independently
[1:43:41] prepared, committed by law and this policy and is inducted for a document
[1:43:46] at legitimate law enforcement purpose. So there is three, three ways that you have
[1:43:52] to put in the system to view it. You have to put in a place for a report number as
[1:43:56] well as the reason. So you have to, that's, that was another thing that was added
[1:44:02] when I met with, with Flock is you have to also put the reason is the third
[1:44:06] for what you're going to never first you get to have a report number that's in there, and the reason that you're also looking in there.
[1:44:16] Vendor personnel should not independently search, use, disclose, retain, sell, or otherwise process,
[1:44:21] town, LPR data for an unauthorized purpose and so on comply with the applicable contractual
[1:44:26] confidentiality cybersecurity retention and data breach requirements.
[1:44:33] State network under data share and statewide network access is currently disabled,
[1:44:38] no future activation maker without documented the administrative legal policy
[1:44:42] for the duration of view and all approvals required by the policy or account council.
[1:44:54] The public records under B, the final adopted LPR policy in a required annual report to the Virginia Department.
[1:45:00] And a state police should be posted publicly excluding all personal and case identifying information in any other information protected under Virginia law.
[1:45:11] If any automated, under D, if any automated audit assistance features activated the following, their appropriate administrative and legal review, the supplementation does not replace the required monthly supervisory audit.
[1:45:33] Number seven under the program administration.
[1:45:37] The quarterly reporting to the chief of the police and town manager for distribution of town counts,
[1:45:42] including appropriate measures such as alerts, stolen vehicle recoveries.
[1:45:46] One of our missing persons located investigations assisted arrested are charges associated with the LPR
[1:45:51] assisted investigations on authorized access incidents and other appropriate performance measures.
[1:45:59] I'm going to ask you a question here.
[1:46:00] Do we have that current data now without that like do we have like what prompted the I guess the need for for the grant to create this policy do we have uptick and stolen vehicles in the town of Dumfries and and
[1:46:23] It was a fun necessarily an uptick in the town of Dumfries, but surrounded in the town of Dumfries and also recovered.
[1:46:29] There was a uptick in recovery inside the town of Dumfries of the stolen vehicles.
[1:46:38] Was there any public outreach done before we made this decision?
[1:46:43] Yeah, so I met with H.O.A., met with churches and met with citizens.
[1:46:47] I met with voters and met with taxpayers.
[1:46:49] I met with businesses and met with all those people beforehand.
[1:46:52] That's why all of our LPR's own private property would
[1:46:59] all these people that I spoke with gave permission with me explaining how the system would and what we would be using it for
[1:47:10] And we also covered them. I think the town hall and February
[1:47:15] Councilman Phil, I'm glad to mention
[1:47:18] the use of private property and extent that you went to
[1:47:22] Have this access granite for us
[1:47:25] for the police department, and I'm saying us, because of us, the town, and the police department to use and access.
[1:47:35] Indie event that the person that owns this private property doesn't want this on their property and the more.
[1:47:44] What happens? What are the steps? They notify us, and they're taking down immediately.
[1:47:48] Okay. So to satisfy the public and those questions, why aren't there, are they on
[1:47:57] public property?
[1:48:00] V dot, at this time, is not given permission for any black cameras to be put on.
[1:48:05] Don't the point of the right ways.
[1:48:07] And that's what?
[1:48:08] Let's say what?
[1:48:10] So how many black cameras that you know of,
[1:48:15] So, around the town of Delfarees, I think Prince William has 28 functional ones stand alone.
[1:48:25] They have 10 flex ones or ones that can be deployed for a temporary, on a temporary basis.
[1:48:31] And they have LP art on vehicles.
[1:48:32] I don't know that number.
[1:48:33] And LP art is not a new technology.
[1:48:35] Yeah, for years.
[1:48:37] This is 1976.
[1:48:39] So, I know there's a lot of complaints now, but this is new.
[1:48:41] So for clarification, I got about eight fixed in the county.
[1:48:45] There's a curve.
[1:48:46] We got about 10 that they can move around.
[1:48:50] And who knows how many did they have on cars driving around?
[1:48:53] Right.
[1:48:53] And those cars driving around, I usually law enforcement cars.
[1:48:57] Try to get enforcement.
[1:49:00] I think they're just trafficking.
[1:49:01] I think they're just trafficking.
[1:49:02] Please call us.
[1:49:03] Please call us.
[1:49:05] Stafford County.
[1:49:07] I don't know. Stafford.
[1:49:09] Okay.
[1:49:09] All right. Any other counties that you can make in round 11 there's the state is pretty
[1:49:15] pretty covered in cameras, LPR's and general as well as lock cameras. Yes, and as I was talking
[1:49:21] earlier, even the county would at incident happen that with my grandmother they've gotten more
[1:49:28] sensitive. I wish we had more the time in that county. One day I didn't get to finish earlier
[1:49:36] It was a time ran out, you know, public safety and cost 2,000 protections, did not have to be mutually exclusive.
[1:49:48] Our responsibility is to make sure we have both.
[1:49:53] I think everyone can agree with that, that we can get along with public safety.
[1:49:58] We can get along with.
[1:50:00] Having these provisions and that, like I said earlier, anyone that violates this is not a slap on the wrist.
[1:50:08] You get a suspension or you get ridden up and you're going much day. I'm pretty sure that a valetion list will lead to termination, termination arches, and maybe federal charges.
[1:50:20] It's an interesting answer to the class one, Mr. Mayor, to misuse the technology.
[1:50:25] So they are our charges for it.
[1:50:27] Thank you.
[1:50:30] All right. So before I make this motion, because I'm going to make a motion here.
[1:50:36] I want to acknowledge, you know, what you're done and what the police department have done.
[1:50:40] And I appreciate you pursuing the grant funding, looking for additional tools to keep them free
[1:50:46] And we should always encourage our staff to continue to use our sort of resources to really strengthen the public safety.
[1:50:55] But acquiring the tool and then deciding how that tool should operate in our community,
[1:51:00] I think are two different questions, not just acquiring the tool, but talking about how this tool is to be used.
[1:51:08] I've heard from residents in almost three or four different neighborhoods that feel like
[1:51:15] they didn't have a seat at the table or opportunity to have a conversation, they didn't have
[1:51:21] opportunity to understand these cameras, they felt like they didn't have a chance to ask questions
[1:51:25] or to provide input before they were installed, so I hear you say you talked to it, but I've been
[1:51:32] out the last couple of weeks, I stood at the cameras. The revised policy before us tonight,
[1:51:38] it's much stronger than the original policy you produce, and I appreciate the work that went into
[1:51:43] and the privacy protections, I appreciate the audits in,
[1:51:47] the sharing the training reconnaissance,
[1:51:48] and even the council oversight that's in there.
[1:51:51] But policy improvements, they don't erase the public
[1:51:57] process concern.
[1:51:59] And so there's a concern with the public process,
[1:52:02] and technology should never move faster than public trust.
[1:52:07] And the public right now doesn't trust the technology,
[1:52:11] because the public doesn't feel like they were, they had to see that to table, they had a
[1:52:17] participation to get that voice. I believe we can support our department, we can support public safety
[1:52:23] and still get residents a meaningful opportunity to participate in this decision. So I'm going to
[1:52:31] move that the town immediately deactivate the flock license plate readers to prohibit collection
[1:52:37] of any new LPR data and direct the town manager to conduct a public engagement process and then
[1:52:43] return to the council with options for removal, continue use, including all grant contract
[1:52:50] illegal fiscal so that the system should not be reactivated without subsequent council approval.
[1:52:58] Okay, it's been motion and second now we'll have discussion council repeat.
[1:53:04] Okay, thank you Mr. Mayor.
[1:53:07] Oh, Chief, quick, quick question.
[1:53:10] There's these.
[1:53:10] You got to speak to the motion.
[1:53:12] There's a motion.
[1:53:12] So we even open the motion up and down.
[1:53:14] And then you can ask the two.
[1:53:16] Can I address it before him?
[1:53:18] I was on the bar.
[1:53:19] I like it was on.
[1:53:20] It was on.
[1:53:21] No, there's a motion on the floor.
[1:53:22] So you have to wait for the motion.
[1:53:27] Any discussion to the motion?
[1:53:31] I'll answer to your question.
[1:53:32] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:53:33] And thank you, Chief.
[1:53:34] I do want to echo the mayor's infamous and the work
[1:53:36] that has gone into this project.
[1:53:38] and I know that it is to enhance public safety. As a mother of a child with a disability who's not
[1:53:44] verbal, I want every resource possible available to locate him if he is lost. With that said,
[1:53:55] I do know that we want our police departments to have all the resources they need so we're able to
[1:54:00] aid in public safety. But as with any other department in the town of Dumfries,
[1:54:07] And we don't have community buying, we're going to have a hard time with success.
[1:54:12] So it's for that most I just want to go on the market, say that I do support the mayor's
[1:54:16] motion.
[1:54:17] And I do think that we could bring it back, but I may be that looks like brought in in our
[1:54:21] communication, targeted, maybe having town halls, things of that nature, but we have to
[1:54:25] have community buying before you move forward.
[1:54:27] And with that, I know.
[1:54:31] Any other comments on the motion, Councilor Feet on Mr. Brooks.
[1:54:33] So the motion on table is to deactivate and take them down.
[1:54:37] and have the town manager conduct the public engage in the process and return the council
[1:54:41] with options.
[1:54:45] And they've been activated yet. They're not, they're not, they're up,
[1:54:49] they're not activated, we're not using a camera. So let's all get this.
[1:55:05] Any other discussion on the motion? Yes. Okay. So, if they're not active now, while we're motioning, when it's when it is physical life, the motion is to remove them and prohibit collection of any LPR that they were supposed to go live. So, so that's why the motion is to wait for motion. So, removing meaning, you would take them up by the ground and do what would have the public input for this process.
[1:55:32] thought the bigger time to flood. Is that a cause? It would be a cause to reach all.
[1:55:47] So we've spent, we've gotten a grant for this. And the chief has went out and did his
[1:55:54] due diligence and getting this. We had two people to come up here that it don't even live
[1:56:02] in the town of Darfries and opposition to it. And we've got to waste this money that we've received
[1:56:10] or it is. So what happens to those funds? We'll see that when we get that the motion is full
[1:56:16] of the town manager to bring all that information back to the council. So you can vote
[1:56:20] the motion down or you can vote the motion out. But there's a motion on the floor.
[1:56:24] I know. And it's time for discussion. I'm discussing. Okay.
[1:56:31] And so they'll be returned back
[1:56:33] at no fee. Right now we're under the pilot program. So if you're taking down there's no fee
[1:56:39] to put them back up, even within the 60-day limit would be a $8,000 fee for $1,000 for each
[1:56:45] camera.
[1:56:48] And then a live nail.
[1:56:50] We're not using the cameras, no sir.
[1:56:52] Is it possible to leave them up and not go live, so do I have to not encourage that expense
[1:56:57] later?
[1:56:59] That is possible, yes.
[1:57:05] And there's no fee for that, there would be a fee to reinstall them at the location.
[1:57:15] Yes, you know, in a person who made the motion that we consider just leaving them up,
[1:57:19] don't encourage us to experience if we want to put them up later, we're not having to have
[1:57:25] all this money wasted. If they're there, they're there. Whether they go live or not, that's a
[1:57:31] different thing. We can suspend going live for further input from the public and the due diligence
[1:57:38] of that. I'll support that. But taking it out to ground and wasting money to put them back in.
[1:57:44] No, that is a way to taxpayer money.
[1:57:50] Okay, say no further discussion.
[1:57:51] Ma'am, clerk call for the question.
[1:57:55] How's it going to be?
[1:57:56] No.
[1:57:58] How's it going to be?
[1:58:11] How's it going to be?
[1:58:12] Yes.
[1:58:14] How's it going to be?
[1:58:16] I...
[1:58:17] Share both of them out.
[1:58:19] I...
[1:58:20] May I?
[1:58:21] Yes.
[1:58:22] No issues, thanks.
[1:58:24] All right.
[1:58:24] Next on the agenda is the discussion of the municipal boundary line.
[1:58:33] Good
[1:58:44] evening Mayor Council members. I come before you tonight to talk a little bit about the procurement on the
[1:58:54] municipal boundary line feasibility study. At this point we are in the intent to award stage. We did go through a rigorous procurement process that began back in April.
[1:59:05] we had one proposal that came in from the Robert Bob Group and we negotiated that contract
[1:59:13] down 23% the original proposal cost was 414,300 dollars and you see now we are sitting
[1:59:21] at 319,000 dollars as the proposed cost. It does exceed the budget amount of budgeted
[1:59:29] amount of 175,000, but town staff has identified call savings within the identified capital
[1:59:37] projects that were past via resolution in the amount of 263,784 dollars and 99 cents.
[1:59:47] This came from an identification that the emergency power system was both included in this
[1:59:56] project and our art profines, so we will take you.
[2:00:00] The costs associated with the emergency power system from the ARPA funding instead of the bond anticipation
[2:00:09] of funding 2023A. In addition to that, we had cost savings and the Campbell property demolition
[2:00:18] in the amount of $51,865. We also had cost savings for the HVI repairs and the amount of $6,000,900.
[2:00:27] And we had cost savings in the town hall security system in the amount of 3,775 dollars and 49 cents.
[2:00:37] And lastly, we had cost savings from the town hall conference room updates in the amount of 1,244 dollars and 50 cents.
[2:00:45] This came through rigorous procurement processes to produce these cost savings.
[2:00:50] In addition to that, I would also like to share that the solicitation for the municipal boundary line feasibility study was sent to
[2:01:00] 2,492 suppliers through Eva that generates throughout any suppliers that are relevant to the commodity codes that we put in.
[2:01:12] The commodity codes essentially identify who is in the market to produce services such
[2:01:23] as this.
[2:01:24] So from that, we did have the one proposal which was included as the Robert Bob Group.
[2:01:30] And at this time, I stand ready to answer any questions you may have.
[2:01:37] Thank you for that thorough presentation.
[2:01:41] I understand that the procurement, as you stated at the end, was broadly distributed to Eva and
[2:01:48] one proposal was received. Can we explain what we learned from the other qualified firms who chose
[2:01:55] not to respond and what steps maybe we could take a staff to ensure that proceeding with a single proposal
[2:02:05] still produce a fair reasonable and a competitive result for the town, being that we only
[2:02:12] had one.
[2:02:13] So how do we know it's competitive with the other two, sir?
[2:02:16] Absolutely.
[2:02:16] I'll share that.
[2:02:17] This process was a little bit different than what is of the norm for a procurement process.
[2:02:23] And with that, it's one that the town size and budget typically is going to be a deterrent
[2:02:30] for larger firms.
[2:02:31] So that's one of one cost, one reason why we may have only received one proposal.
[2:02:37] In addition to that, the study is highly political and a lot of firms will not feel that
[2:02:43] they are prepared to carry out all of those due diligence that are involved with the process.
[2:02:50] And then again, as I mentioned, it's a highly complex project, this project engages multiple
[2:02:57] professionals, including legal, which is going to be your primary driver for why it is so
[2:03:02] expensive.
[2:03:04] And we did talk through a lot of that throughout the process, essentially looking at ways
[2:03:10] in which we may be able to save on the amount of legal and offering ways in which we may
[2:03:16] be able to partner with the proposed contractor on ways that maybe we could utilize our
[2:03:21] council in situations and in addition to that engaging our police department, which is also
[2:03:27] component of the project and utilizing some of the resources that we have.
[2:03:31] So we do feel confident that although we've proceeded with the one proposal that this is the most beneficial from the town.
[2:03:39] Was there like a written determination supported, I guess the decision to proceed, which is one offer and can that be made part of the procurement record?
[2:03:48] So we do have a record that anyone is able to come and view.
[2:03:51] Inside the record, we also include a memorandum that outlines the full process and in addition to that,
[2:03:59] we did have a thorough procurement process in which we involve evaluation committee members who weighed in,
[2:04:06] which is included in this file as shows a responses from the proposal.
[2:04:11] Also, responses from the oral presentation that was received throughout the process and then of course finalizing that within the file as well.
[2:04:22] The market producer only went for proposals, so I just wanted the record to show how staff
[2:04:28] validated those qualifications.
[2:04:30] I wanted the record to show the scope and the price and the absence of competing proposals.
[2:04:35] So I just wanted that all on the record as we make these decisions as we speak to this dollar amount.
[2:04:43] Is the anybody else have any questions for the staff report and I just wanted to add
[2:04:49] also that we did solicit this opportunity twice. The first one was canceled due to non-response.
[2:04:58] And then we revamped reevaluate.
[2:05:00] It is some of the language to ensure that it was more competitive on the next round.
[2:05:04] Okay. Question, Kazmea. Thank you, sir. Question B, do you feel that the, with the 175 was too low?
[2:05:13] Yes, sir. Now that we are more aware of all of the different components that align with the project,
[2:05:20] especially with the amount of, right now they have budgeted around 1600 hours, dedicated just for legal presence throughout the project.
[2:05:30] So again, that's going to drive up your cost, but the proposed best and final offer also negotiated down cap on those hours so that we don't initiate any change orders throughout that process.
[2:05:47] Is the applicant here that we can speak to that coming we have some questions.
[2:05:52] Mr. Robert Bobbass here.
[2:05:54] Robert Bobbass here.
[2:05:54] Robert Bobbass, can you come to the Dias, please?
[2:05:56] The podium.
[2:06:10] Mr. Bobbass, thank you for being here tonight.
[2:06:13] We just want to understand exactly what the town will own at the end of this engagement
[2:06:17] and how this work moves this study to a defensible decision.
[2:06:24] Excuse me.
[2:06:26] Oh, yes.
[2:06:30] And I was just curious, what did we lose by you reducing almost 100,000 dollars
[2:06:38] We thought that we, we believe that we priced it currently, but we also, you know, we,
[2:06:49] we also want to, want to work with the city of Dumfries.
[2:06:54] And we're, we're going to do our best to stay within the number of hours that have been dedicated to this work.
[2:07:01] I would say that one of the challenges that we may have is on the legal side of, we can do all of the analysis, we have a really strong team.
[2:07:16] But when you come to the legal side, you want to make sure that we're working with the city attorney and with others.
[2:07:23] because the legal fees are the most high fees within our portfolio.
[2:07:31] And as what we're going to have to address in deal with,
[2:07:36] I would say that the study reminds me a little bit of the history
[2:07:43] when I went to when I became a city manager, Richmond, just as an aside
[2:07:48] and the city of trying to maybe familiar you with this as well.
[2:07:52] There was a Supreme Court case brought on by a local advocate in Richmond by the name of Curtis Holden.
[2:08:02] And Curtis Holden brought a case similar, not similar, but not dissimilar to what we're proposing here.
[2:08:13] And that case was to extend the boundaries for the city of Richmond.
[2:08:20] In the case went all the way to the Supreme Court.
[2:08:24] And it occurred to hold one that case at the Supreme Court.
[2:08:30] The bottom line was that by when in that case,
[2:08:35] the city of Richmond gained 23 additional square miles of territory as it were.
[2:08:43] It expanded the city of Richmond, and again 47,000 new residents in Richmond.
[2:08:51] And we look back on the history of that case and how it impacts Virginia.
[2:08:57] It says that no other municipality by the General Assembly can enter into a similar case.
[2:09:08] But towns are different.
[2:09:11] There's a whole different process for towns.
[2:09:14] And so towns are not by that particular Supreme Court decision.
[2:09:24] The bottom line is that we have to work real closely with the city administrator.
[2:09:31] I mean with the city manager.
[2:09:33] I think that the legal component of it may be from the challenge.
[2:09:38] We know that the team all committed to working with them, that's what we are currently.
[2:09:51] They know otherwise we would not have continued into the process.
[2:09:58] What um
[2:10:01] Can you share, I guess, with this, the council, the people, what prior, you know, annexation,
[2:10:08] boundary line, relocation, any restructuring work that you're firm, all your team can talk to us about
[2:10:16] that they completed and any lessons from that work that can apply directly to what we're doing here in the
[2:10:23] I have a doctorate.
[2:10:24] In Canada, this is the first boundaries study that we've done.
[2:10:27] I've been involved in a different life.
[2:10:30] A boundaries study is relating to school districts,
[2:10:35] which from my research, I'm much more
[2:10:40] critical when you're taking kids from one area of part of town and you're creating new
[2:10:48] boundaries for school districts.
[2:10:49] You know, the former superintendent of the school district, that's been my experience
[2:10:54] with boundaries for schools of school district, but not for municipalities.
[2:11:03] But with the requirements for this study, we believe that we have all of the technical
[2:11:12] skills and expertise to address the areas of on which the city manager and the team
[2:11:23] outlined in this particular study. I mean our team is very seated and very experienced
[2:11:32] in conducting analysis.
[2:11:38] I guess part of the most important question for me tonight
[2:11:41] And trying to make a decision here is if the council votes to spend 319,000 dollars on this work.
[2:11:52] What should we expect to have in our hands at the end of this?
[2:11:58] And will it have any type of last and value if the council ultimately decides not to pursue a boundary change?
[2:12:06] I mean, looking at the, the many things we got going on as you know, we got small area
[2:12:11] plans working for redeveloping the waterfront, we're doing Main Street, we're doing a gateway.
[2:12:17] We got entertainment.
[2:12:18] And so, you know, we're trying to figure out, it's just the best use of our resources right
[2:12:25] now in moving forward with this.
[2:12:27] So I know this is kind of a loaded question for you, but it's, you know, if we spend it,
[2:12:33] we expect to have at our hands at the end that that can have some type of less than value.
[2:12:39] Well, less than value will be, it's more critical. I mean, we're doing all of the, we are confident
[2:12:46] that we can provide all of the technical analysis pursuant to the requirements of the RFP or the RFQ.
[2:12:55] I mean, we and our teams can provide all of the analysis, but at the end of the day,
[2:13:01] moving forward is going to be a decision that the City Council will have to make and whether
[2:13:07] or not the City Council, with its relationships with the county, and ultimately with its
[2:13:18] relationship with the, and at the state level under the Department, there's a committee
[2:13:25] that ultimately decides makes the ultimate decision to go forward.
[2:13:34] Okay.
[2:13:36] Kazmea.
[2:13:37] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[2:13:38] Quick question.
[2:13:39] Notice that the contract was for one year.
[2:13:41] Exactly.
[2:13:43] How long does a process like that really really take this feasibility study?
[2:13:50] Yes.
[2:13:52] So the contract currently is written for one year.
[2:13:55] I believe the scope of their bid is about 18 months.
[2:13:58] We have just learned that there aren't some restrictions around the funding, so we would have to make an amendment to the proposed contract if Council approves it.
[2:14:08] Thank you.
[2:14:12] Counciling the other questions on the contract and the proposal before you.
[2:14:23] Counciling my fails.
[2:14:26] When I first came to the town 20 years ago, this was the talk of trying to expand.
[2:14:33] I've heard much about it since then.
[2:14:34] So what what this up now?
[2:14:40] A part of my employment, this was one of the tasks that the council had, is expressed as an interest.
[2:14:45] And I had brought up in my last communications accounts for normal evaluations, the last tasks that I have in the G.
[2:14:53] So we were able to identify some funding that would allow us to move forward with the solicitation.
[2:15:00] Okay, I got
[2:15:04] it.
[2:15:04] I got it was a part of the strategic plan.
[2:15:12] All right, no further questions. Thank you, Mr. Bob, for coming up.
[2:15:17] Thank you. I guess town manager based on the blue information with the funds and what we're
[2:15:26] doing, what is your recommendation to this council as we deliberate making the decision and
[2:15:32] motion here tonight. My recommendation is for the Council to approve the contract in the amount
[2:15:39] that was stated on the in the contract amount. I don't know if I heard I don't want to
[2:15:43] misstate it. What is that amount? 319,000. 319,000.
[2:15:55] All right. Councilman P. What was the number on the reduction again to our manager?
[2:16:01] So initially began a little over 400,000 for 13 that was a original from is that the previous time was that just over the first proposal for this time the first proposal from this time
[2:16:17] Okay, now this is that for 13 more than our previous time
[2:16:23] So the previous time we solicited we did not receive any responses
[2:16:27] Okay, so this is the second time so. Okay, all right, sounds good then. Okay, so we had a reduction down to three. What was that I think it's me 19, so you guys went and put some work in to get us a reduction for this. Okay.
[2:16:42] Yeah.
[2:16:43] And if I may may or would, the 175,000 was an estimate.
[2:16:49] We did not have any independent written cost estimate.
[2:16:52] We just did a ballpark figure.
[2:16:54] And that's how we came up with that in a morsel.
[2:16:59] I guess with the scope, you know, is it, can this be scope in phases or this whole scope needs
[2:17:07] to be done at one time?
[2:17:08] And is that why the cost was so much and we didn't get the best, do you think we could
[2:17:13] phase dissolved or is all due to be done at one time?
[2:17:17] I mean, it's a feasibility study.
[2:17:19] So you start with the feasibility study to see whether that is even feasible to move
[2:17:23] to the next phase.
[2:17:25] So I mean, the council decides that this is not what they want.
[2:17:29] It's not a priority at this moment.
[2:17:31] We could delay it.
[2:17:32] But you know, it's completely up to the body.
[2:17:34] Sorry about that, sir.
[2:17:35] Okay.
[2:17:36] This is just one.
[2:17:38] All right.
[2:17:39] Okay.
[2:17:40] Council, any further discussion, questions on this and I'll put in front of the consent agenda to just get this information share program?
[2:17:48] So I'm just taking everything in at the reading packet.
[2:17:52] I notice that I know y'all haven't had whom you saying that.
[2:17:57] But after hearing that only one firm bid after hearing that that is much longer than we thought after hearing that is going to get very political.
[2:18:09] is this? I know when we said that we definitely did direct this
[2:18:12] homensager to pursue the biology around the adjustments and that's been a big
[2:18:15] thing since I've been here we talked about it even the previous homensager's
[2:18:19] but knowing what we know now do we need to have a conversation about whether or not
[2:18:26] this remains a part of our strategic plan.
[2:18:36] Yeah I mean we can we can we can table a
[2:18:38] discussion today and we can come back how long is the the what time do we
[2:18:44] How much time do we have to respond?
[2:18:47] So we have on the intent on what phase has this over.
[2:18:51] So right now, we're in a contract and phase.
[2:18:53] If council needs to take some time to delivery,
[2:18:55] we have time to do so, sir.
[2:19:00] All right.
[2:19:00] So if we take no action today, can we bring it up on the further,
[2:19:06] or do we need to take some sort of action?
[2:19:08] Not a maternity?
[2:19:17] I think it depends on a couple of things.
[2:19:20] I don't have that information immediately in front of me,
[2:19:22] But we do have the applicant here and you can kind of informally query if he has an objection
[2:19:28] to this being continued to the next counsel meeting if the counsel for sees that it will
[2:19:35] be able to make a decision by that particular date.
[2:19:53] Okay, we want to try to hold off a meeting to liberate like it's a more information.
[2:20:00] So we'll take any action with somebody at the motion, may.
[2:20:06] So the correct motion we'll just be to continue this matter over into the, I believe, as the September
[2:20:14] 7th, 15th council meeting.
[2:20:17] Council would be, Mr. Mayor, like that we, I would like to make a motion that we move this matter into our next
[2:20:23] previous continue containment into the next
[2:20:28] minute. Second. Okay, it's been
[2:20:30] motioned in second. Any further discussion?
[2:20:33] All right, see you in that Madam Clerk
[2:20:34] call for the question.
[2:20:37] How's my field? Yes. How's my feet?
[2:20:41] Yes. How's my young? Yes. How's the one
[2:20:45] my feet are some? I share a photo to my
[2:20:47] I may or would. Yes, the Town Council of Dumpers desires to go to and close meeting and
[2:20:57] pursue it to that 237-11 alpha. One of the code of a date to discuss and consider
[2:21:05] our personnel matters including, but not limited appointment assignment, performance of specific public
[2:21:18] All right, it's been motioned in second.
[2:21:21] Yes, no.
[2:21:23] There's more to it.
[2:21:25] Okay.
[2:21:26] Okay.
[2:21:27] I will draw that.
[2:21:29] We will draw that.
[2:21:30] I read this one.
[2:21:31] The town council desires to go to close.
[2:21:33] That's presented to that two.
[2:21:35] That's 37.
[2:21:37] 11 out for one.
[2:21:39] And out for eight.
[2:21:40] And out for four.
[2:21:42] To the source, to consider this.
[2:21:44] This is the city public office.
[2:21:45] You can start with legal council regarding.
[2:21:46] specifically to manage require legal advice and to the extent and that's the
[2:21:50] say to protect the privacy of individuals and personnel matters not
[2:21:54] related to public business matters. I'm sorry that motion is not all right. It's been
[2:21:58] motion to second any discussion? Seeing none of my clerk call for the question.
[2:22:03] Councilman Fiddles. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. Yes.
[2:22:05] Councilman y'all. Yes. Councilman Fiddles. I'm Chair Boatime. Okay. May I
[2:22:10] Good, yes.
[2:22:11] We are now a closed session.
[3:35:32] Evan, can I hear us?
[3:36:10] Make a motion that, in accordance with the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2.2-3712, the Code of
[3:36:17] a J.A.A. to the best of each member, only public business matters, lawfully exempt from open,
[3:36:22] meeting with her, discussed or considered, and that only public, only business that were identified
[3:36:29] by the motion, which we went in the co-session. What is discussed?
[3:36:33] All right. It's been motion and secondly in the discussion.
[3:36:38] Seeing that, Madam Clerk, please call for the question.
[3:36:42] Calf of my field. Yes.
[3:36:44] Calf of my peep. Yes.
[3:36:46] Calf of my young. Yes.
[3:36:47] Calf of my peep. Yes.
[3:36:49] Calf of my peep. Yes.
[3:36:51] Calf of my peep. Yes.
[3:36:53] And now I'm back in open session.
[3:36:55] All right. Say anything to report out.
[3:36:57] Yes, this may I do have a statement.
[3:36:58] I'd like to refer record.
[3:36:59] Calf of my peep. Yes.
[3:37:00] Council wants to address recent allegations that one of his members use public resources for personal purposes.
[3:37:07] Example taking pictures and council chambers.
[3:37:10] Council has addressed this text of this code of ethics.
[3:37:13] But since we have not yet had training, the benefit of that will be given to the offending member.
[3:37:19] We will like to go on record to say that after the training is conducted, we do not condone this behavior.
[3:37:28] and we will be enforcing the code of ethics more diligently in its
[3:37:33] entairing in the future, including punishment, and that's all I
[3:37:39] got.
[3:37:40] Okay, I'm going to say this.
[3:37:42] All right, what that said, this meeting is now adjourned.