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September 23rd, 2026, the special

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meeting of the Eden Town Council to

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order. I apologize for starting a few

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minutes [clears throat] late. We have a

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few technical difficulties up here which

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we have taken care of. Um the first

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matter is uh consideration of approval

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of a 2026 community waste reduction and

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recycling grant. And we've got David

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Meyers here and also uh Corey Gooden to

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help us explain uh more about that.

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Evening council.

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>> Sorry, I have a cough, so I do have a

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cough drop in.

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>> Um, so this grant here would be our

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third grant for recycling. Um, you know,

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our recycling program started December

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of 2023. Um, so this is for $30,000 to

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help with a skid steer to help load um

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the recycle into the trailer. Um, and

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the one we currently use is about 25

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years old. you know, dealing with all

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that trash. You can imagine the the

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shape that it's in. Um, you know, this

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will go for our 26 27 budget. Um, the

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town had to spend about $40,000 to get

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that 30, but that'll be something we

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budget uh come our our new budget in

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July.

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>> So, and it's it's much much needed, I

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can promise you. So,

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>> our um

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what was it tons per month or whatever,

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has that increased?

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>> Uh, I was looking at it right before I

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came here. You know, I think we were the

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first year around 190. We were around

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181,000 tons this time and this year

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we're already at 50,000 tons.

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>> So, I I see it going up. U we just did

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our last recycle grant. We got

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dumpsters, we got recycle carts, you

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know, a lot of education material. So,

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we're seeing a lot more um involvement

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from the community. Um and now with the

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dumpsters, we got, you know, commercial

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properties.

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citizens know what ways do you

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>> sometimes it depends on issue with that

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>> we still get calls so

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>> okay any more questions um it sounds

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like uh we need it and I'd rather get it

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when we have some money available to

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help as opposed to waiting and it break

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down and have to act out of desperation

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and not have $30,000 to help us. So

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those are my thoughts on sir

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>> any more comments? I just need to thank

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them for continuing to go after these

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things, too.

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>> Yeah.

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» Go.

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>> Okay. Um, I'll entertain a motion to

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approve this grant as described.

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>> So, move.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. We got a motion, a second. All in

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favor of the town approving this grant

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as described by David Myers with please

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indicate by saying I. I.

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>> Any opposed? Thank you, David.

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>> Thank you. Let's see.

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>> So, next we move to uh a series of

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public hearings, and I need to open the

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public hearing for the five agenda items

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that are on um the agenda. So, I declare

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the public uh hearing for these

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purposes. So, opened. The first matter

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that before us is a public hearing in

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case [clears throat] number RZ26-01

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which is an application for John Larry

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sellers

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requesting to reszone property located

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at 706 Northam Street North Oak Street

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from R5 residential to R3 residential.

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The affected um property is also

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identified as pin number

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7805-20-81-5589.

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Before um we proceed on this uh hearing,

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uh Councilman Sellers, is a matter of

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procedure we need to discuss?

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>> Yes. Uh Mayor Hi, I'd move to recuse

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myself um from any hearings uh involving

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my direct family members. And the law

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reads if a direct family member is

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involved, it's mandatory that um Mr.

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Celis make make that notification to us

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and we would also need to vote on his

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request to recuse himself from this

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matter.

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>> Move, ma'am.

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>> All right, we got a motion. Do we have a

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second?

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>> Second.

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>> Okay, we got a motion to second. All in

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favor of Councilman Sersh recusing

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himself from this particular hearing,

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please signify by saying I.

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>> Any opposed? Okay. Thank you for letting

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us know that.

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Okay. The way uh we run these things,

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first there's a presentation of staff

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reports and uh Dwayne Wilton, will you

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come forward?

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There's a lot of paperwork to go around.

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So, the applicant u Mr. Sellers um is

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seeking to reszone uh property located

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at 706 North Oak Street to R5 from R5 to

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R3. Um in your packet you will have the

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map showing uh the specific location. Um

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and the existing zoning R5 minimum lot

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size 5,000 minimum lot width 50. Uh lot

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coverage is limited to 60%. Uh recently

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uh council has uh approved the R3 zoning

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district uh which um would require

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minimum lot size of 3,000 square feet,

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minimum lot width of 30, lot curvage of

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60 and building height of 35. Um both

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are uh in the proposed land use

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classification is identified as medium

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to high density residential.

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uh in the uh medium to high residential

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uh it occupies about 20% of the town's

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planning jurisdiction uh and if you

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remember uh R3 was uh for you know to

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help with affordable housing I think is

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the old calls but also for infield

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development uh and to help with uh um

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the the infill on lots that are already

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non-conforming and to bring these lots

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into a more conforming status and

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putting restrictions kind of on how it

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can be developed. So uh public utilities

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um properties in the corporate limits um

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it is uh located within the town

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protective service provided by the

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police department. Uh it's subject

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properties located on Oak and East Hick

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Street. Uh physical characteristics at

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this point is vacant land. Um the

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aftermission parcels of the applicant

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seeks reszoning uh from R5 to R3.

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[clears throat] Resoning request may be

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considered appropriate given the

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compatibility of the surrounding

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residential properties and the intended

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purpose of the parcel as single family

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uh detached dwellings. Um the potential

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reasonzoning of this parcel R3

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residential is consistent with future

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land use uh map designation for medium

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to high density residential areas.

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So, uh, please be aware that the

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reszoning of this project, uh, this

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property will will permit all uses

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permanent R3, uh, residential as list in

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the town of Edon's, uh, unified

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development ordinance.

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Grant, if granted, the reasoning

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requests, property owners will continue

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to have to comply with all the

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regulations included within the town of

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Edon's unified development ordinance.

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Uh, you see, uh, there was an existing

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structure that has been demolished, but,

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uh, you see your maps there. Uh the

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recommendation uh staff has determined

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the applicant uh application for Mr.

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Sellers for a zoning map amendment uh is

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complete and that is compatible with the

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2018 land use plan and that the

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reszoning would result no inconsistency

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with the existing and future land

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classifications for the subject property

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and it meets uh the requirements of the

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town of E10's uh unified development

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ordinance. uh the plan board met on

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March 2nd and as we recommended approval

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of this reasoning request

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uh so town council plan consistency

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statement um would be required at this

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point but uh that's it for the

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» plane board recommending 100%.

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>> Yes sir. Yeah, I every number.

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>> And Dwayne, we uh re recently, was that

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within the last six months or so, uh

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changed our zoning ordinance to include

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a R3 designation? Yes. Is that correct?

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Mhm. [clears throat]

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>> And I recall some of the thought

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processes behind that was smaller lot

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size reduces the cost of the land and

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also uh reduces the size of a house you

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could put on that land with the hope

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that you would have more affordable

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housing than a big house on a big lot.

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>> That's correct. Yeah. And with the

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reasoning, I mean, they're still going

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to have to meet uh the setback

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requirements as as approved by council

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and every other restriction that's

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approved by council. this just will

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allow for them to subdivide this and be

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able to pour or be able to put uh some

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smaller homes there. Uh which I've heard

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from the community is a great necessity

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for the school system and the new school

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is there and uh the board of education

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that's right there. So, this could be an

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asset to them as well.

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>> And the only difference between R5 and

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R3 is the minimum lot size. Everything

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else is pretty much the same.

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>> Yeah, minimum lot size. I think some

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setbacks uh are a little uh lenient on

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R3. Um but it still has to meet the 6%

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lot coverage uh 35 uh feet max height.

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of the regulations are uh the same as R5

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and defined as medium to high

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residential

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and I mean it's sort of my understanding

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that these these type of developments

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are encouraged by

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not necessarily our main street but the

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sort of main street approach brings

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[clears throat] more people into the

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middle of town. It helps create, you

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know, a vital thriving center core of

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the of the town.

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>> More walkable uh community is kind of

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>> kind of Yeah. Less disperse services. I

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mean, it's all right there. Just Yeah,

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we'll I guess everything's already

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there.

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>> School.

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>> It's been very very close to school.

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>> It's been a great parking lot for

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football games, though.

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And Dwayne, this fits in with our um

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future land use map and plans and goals.

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>> Yeah. Well, with the R3, it's it's

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basically marrying the R5, which is our

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smallest lot. Uh so it's all considered

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medium to high residential. Uh when we

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update our land use plan, we'll include

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the R3 zoning district, but as of right

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now, it's it's listed under the the

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medium to high resial density.

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And this house is on um like Mosley

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Street, MLK. They all would be in this type of

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feet wide. Basically, this

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>> when you asked that question, you refer

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to existing lots.

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>> Existing lots that are already in town.

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planned this. It's just

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>> we see several

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>> gotten away for a while. Yeah, we see

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several throughout the the town

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municipal limits of of being about 33

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feet wide and we just have to work with

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them at this point on attempting to meet

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the setbacks but not punishing them for

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uh not meeting them. So pretty good. So

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this helps alleviate that, put stricter

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or put a standardized um kind of

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development ordinance in place for those

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particular properties.

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Okay, any more questions of uh staff?

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[clears throat]

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Okay, thank you. Thanks.

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Next, we've got presentation from the

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applicant or applicants representative.

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Anything you want to add?

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>> Well, I'm going to bring Chris back up

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here. [laughter]

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He's the builder. He's going to buy the

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lots for me. Originally, we were going

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to do town houses, but this way,

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everybody wants a single family house.

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Not everybody wants a townhouse. So,

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maybe one day we'll do some town houses

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in in town. But Chris can explain to you

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what he wants to do and I think it's

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wonderful width on those lots.

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» So in this particular parcel

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currently zoned R5

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it it's 14,800

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and some square foot which is not three

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lots and not three homes. Um by going to

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R3

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it becomes four lots four locations for

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homes and our width is

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greater than

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>> it's 40

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>> 40.

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>> So we're going to make maximum use of

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this property. Um as Dwayne mentioned

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there's minor differences in the

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setbacks. Maybe instead of 12 it's 10.

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But as was also mentioned, um we have a

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lot of lots in this town that are

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nonconforming that are going to fit in

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this category and that kind of makes

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them legit again. Um somewhere along the

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way, Cape Colony for example, where

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we're also trying to build some houses

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that are in considered affordable um

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that got painted R15

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and we're building on 50 by 100 lots and

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I have to you know, I have to use those

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setbacks, which makes it even harder to

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get a house on those lots. So, I think

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the more we can set these up the right

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way, the better off we're going to be

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moving forward where, you know, the the

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setbacks meet what you actually have for

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a piece of property.

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>> What uh size houses do you anticipate um

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would be placed on these lines?

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>> Uh anywhere from a two bed, we do a

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two-bedroom, two bath. It's about 850 square ft. Um up to maybe 11,200

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square ft². Again, we're, you know,

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we're we're asking for smaller lots.

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We're working on smaller lots. So, we

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may have to go up, you know, a twotory

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version, which we've got several models

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of that.

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>> What's the cost per square foot? Yeah,

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>> we have to build the whole house,

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including the driveway and the porches

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and the I always tell customers, I know

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you're going to go home and divide the

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heated square footage by my price and

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say, "Oh my gosh, it's this much."

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>> Um, but you know, the reality is they're

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going to be between two and probably on

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these lots 200 to 225 a square foot sale

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price, which includes the land.

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Somewhere in that range. Somewhere in

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that range. But, you know, we're not

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going to cut on any of the quality.

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We're going to have the same house.

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The price is driven. That's consistent.

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Price is driven by the cost of the land

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and the size [clears throat] of the

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home.

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>> The house that you built, I think you

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built it by the street department by

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Dave's office.

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>> Yes.

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>> That's going to be about the size of the

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house.

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>> Yeah. That that's an example where, you

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know, we're not spending too much money

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until we get this through, but we're

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looking at different elevations for that

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size house. So, that size house was

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drawn as a two-bedroom, one bath. We

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make it 5 1/2, 6t deeper, and make it a

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two-bedroom, two bath. So, you know,

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potentially someone could buy it, have a

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roommate, another teacher, you know,

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>> would everybody have a young

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>> a driveway?

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>> Yes. Yes, we're mandated on a

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twobedroom, one and a half.

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>> I think it's two, three parking spaces,

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I believe.

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>> Oh, two. Yeah, it would be two parking

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spaces.

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>> Yeah, I mean, we're going to do two. I

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think I thought I thought it was 1.5 on

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a twobedroom and two when you get to a

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threebedroom, but

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>> Yeah, 1.75 something like

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Yeah, we don't we don't do those 75

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parking places. [laughter]

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There's a few 75 cars running around

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here, but we're going to give you a

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whole parking.

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» Okay, questions [clears throat] of the

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applicant and applicants representative.

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>> Okay. Thank you, Chris.

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>> Thanks.

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» As our procedures go on this uh type of

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hearing, we uh have a public comment

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period uh designated as a public

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hearing. within this public hearing. And

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at this time, the next uh agenda item is

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public comment. Uh if you have public

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comment, I'd ask that you come forward

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and identify yourself and limit your

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comments to three minutes. So, I will

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hereby open the public comment uh period

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of this agenda item. Do we have anybody

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present that wishes to speak?

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There appearing to be none. I would

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close the public comment um section of

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this agenda item. And at this time we

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move forward to further comments,

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questions, and deliberations from town

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council. Um, council Dixon, did you have

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anything else to add?

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>> I think this is

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>> I think so. Great.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And affordable housing, too.

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>> Well, when we made the change to our

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zoning map to include a R3, this is the

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type thing that we had in mind. Um, and

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it'll address something that almost

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every time we have some sort of public

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event related to how things we can do

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different here at Eaton, people talk

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about afford affordable housing, smaller

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housing that can be affordable for

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people. So, I think it meets uh our long

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range plans in that regard. Um, any

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other comments?

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All right. Well, council and uh general

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public, there is an established

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procedure that we must follow in these

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types of matters. And we'll have to go

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through this four more times. But as you

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recall, council, there are five um

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questions that we need to answer. One of

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those is um the ultimate question of

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whether we've approved this. But before

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we get to that, there are four

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preliminary questions that the council

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must answer in the positive before we

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can move to the next question. And so

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the first question that we always have

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in this type of thing is uh whether or

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not the uh proposed uh change will

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endanger the public health or safety.

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And I would entertain a motion um that

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this project would not endanger the

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public health or safety.

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>> So move.

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>> Okay. Do you have a second?

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. Any further comment on that sub

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question? All those in favor of a

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finding that this particular change will

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not endanger the public health or

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safety, please signify by saying I.

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>> I.

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>> Any opposed?

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>> Okay. The next subsection sub question

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that we have to answer is uh whether or

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not um the proposed change in use would

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injure would not injure the value of

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adjoining or abing property. Does

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anybody have a motion on that?

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>> So moved.

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>> Okay. We got a motion by Councilman

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Dixon and a second by Councilman Bond.

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Um all in favor of a finding that the

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proposed change and use will not injure

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the value of adjoining or abunding

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properties, please signify by saying I.

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>> I. Any opposed?

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The next sub question is whether the uh

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particular change will be in harmony

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with the area in which it is located. Uh

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do I have a motion and a second for that

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particular finding?

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>> So

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>> second. Okay, we've got a motion and a

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second. All those in favor of the

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finding that this change will be in

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harmony with the area in which it is

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located, please signify by saying I.

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>> I.

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>> And next, we um need to make a finding

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that the um use and change will be in

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conformity with the land use plan,

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thoroughare plan, or other plan

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officially adopted by town council. I'll

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entertain a motion and a second on that

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sub question.

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>> Motion.

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>> Second. Okay, we've got a motion and a

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second. All in favor of a finding that

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this change will be in conformity with

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the land use plan, thoroughfare plan, or

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other plan officially adopted by the

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town council, please signify by saying

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I. I.

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>> Any opposed?

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>> Okay. Since council voted in the

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affirmative on all those findings, it

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leads us to the uh ultimate question.

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And I would uh entertain a motion that

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the town council approve the reszoning

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of the subject property from R5

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residential to R3 residential.

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>> I got a motion.

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>> Second.

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>> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

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the resoning of the subject property

519
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from R5 [cough] residential to R3

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[clears throat] residential. Please

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signify by saying I. I.

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>> Any opposed?

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Okay. So that particular change uh from

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R5 to R3 is hereby passed by town

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council. The next um public hearing is

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on the same piece of property from the

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same um applicant and this is to um

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create four lots on um the property

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located at 706 North Oak Street uh by

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subdividing into those aforementioned

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four lots. And um Councilman Sellers, do

532
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you have the same concern here that you

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had in the first?

534
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>> I do. I'd again ask to be recused.

535
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>> Okay. I need a motion and a second in

536
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order to recuse Councilman Sellers from

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participating voting in this matter.

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>> Second.

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>> Okay. All in favor of Councilman

540
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Sellers's recusal from hearing this

541
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matter, please signify by saying I.

542
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>> I. Any opposed? Okay. We move forward to

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the staff reports. Um Mr.

544
00:21:15,954 --> 00:21:20,549
>> [clears throat]

545
00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,240
» When you pack it, you see the the

546
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,200
preliminary plan is there. Uh so any lot

547
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,320
over three in this uh this zone requires

548
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,240
major special use permit for the

549
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,200
subdivision. Uh so basically the same as

550
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,000
before uh with the major species permit,

551
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,280
I pulled the goals and objectives from

552
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,679
our land use plan. Uh and those are

553
00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:41,280
listed in the staff report. uh develop

554
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,120
and implement uh strategies to promote

555
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,120
three generation population growth. Uh

556
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,640
ensure the town's development ordinance

557
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,400
conducive with emerging uh economic

558
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,200
trends such as telecommuting and

559
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,360
industry entrepreneurship.

560
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,520
Establish local uh development policies,

561
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,440
programs, resources to promote increased

562
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:03,590
home ownership in town. Uh

563
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,960
the town will encourage location,

564
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,159
business, residential development and

565
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,600
service providers that serve retirees

566
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,010
while creating jobs for young residents.

567
00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:09,600
[clears throat]

568
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,120
Town is supportive of cottage industry

569
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,880
entrepreneurship. The town encourages

570
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,159
development of housing types that

571
00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:15,360
accommodate retirees, young

572
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,600
professionals, and millennials.

573
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,909
Uh you see uh an exter

574
00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:27,280
same location 76 North Oak Street. Um

575
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,360
the matri process requires applicants to

576
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,600
specify the exact pros use uh of the

577
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,280
land and allows the town council place

578
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,200
restrictions on the actual development.

579
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600
You see an excerpt from the UDO showing

580
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280
major subdivisions and the requirements

581
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,360
of a major space use permit plan of

582
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,039
board met for this one again on March

583
00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:47,360
2nd unanimously recommended approval

584
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,200
um to the town council with staff

585
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,840
recommended conditions and uh we'll once

586
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,200
again go through those four um five

587
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,880
requirements that has address these

588
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,400
conditions of attached application

589
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,679
um and uh I have uh two of the approved

590
00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:05,840
staff recommended and approved planning

591
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,760
board recommended conditions. All

592
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,520
details [clears throat] and improvements

593
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,960
including but not limited besides

594
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,320
signage, infrastructure, sidewalks,

595
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,000
landscaping, street lighting shall be

596
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840
installed slash constructed according to

597
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,400
UDO requirements. All necessary traffic

598
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,080
improvements, utility installations and

599
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,760
connections, electric, water and sewer

600
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,840
built with town standard and drainage,

601
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,679
storm water detention improvements shall

602
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:28,799
be installed by and all associated and

603
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,840
required fees more by the developer. Um

604
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,120
staff does find the proposed use to be

605
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,179
in conformity with the Gington Shaw

606
00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:35,039
[clears throat] Lenny's plan and

607
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,240
officers the following decision

608
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,280
statement for the council's

609
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,960
consideration.

610
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,559
Um so you have uh the

611
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,679
consent statement [clears throat] right

612
00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:45,280
there and list of the goals that were

613
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,600
read through before. So basically uh

614
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,320
taking one parcel and converting it into

615
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,720
uh uh four uh subdivided lots um and

616
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,280
matching the zoning requirements of R3.

617
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760
>> Okay. Dwayne. Um,

618
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,720
so u the planning board recommended

619
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520
approval unanimously and you as part of

620
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,120
the staff are coming back with the same

621
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,559
recommendation that we approved it.

622
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:11,120
>> Yes sir.

623
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,039
>> And the policy reasons for approving

624
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:15,440
this are those basically the same as the

625
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,559
reasons why you recommended that we um

626
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:20,559
change the zoning from R5 residential to

627
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:21,679
R3 residential.

628
00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:23,919
>> Yes sir. infield development. Um

629
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:27,600
creating uh a lot consistent with the R3

630
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,880
zoning district that was approved by

631
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,840
council. Um checking off a bunch of the

632
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,240
uh goals and policies that the land use

633
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,880
plan uh has identified including you

634
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,880
know [clears throat] supportive of u

635
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,159
development of housing types that

636
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:41,200
accommodate retirees, young

637
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,279
professionals and millennials. uh and

638
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679
knowing that their uh intentions are to

639
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,919
uh build single family detached

640
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:49,919
dwellings. Uh and the opportunity to

641
00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:51,840
meet these goals and policies is the

642
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,520
reason why I came, you know, planning

643
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,480
board and and myself came on and u

644
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360
recommendation of approval for the um

645
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,720
major special use permit for the

646
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,360
subdivision. [clears throat] And if we

647
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,520
approve it, um that doesn't necessarily

648
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,880
mean that they just get that bill out

649
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,159
there and do whatever they want to do.

650
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,679
They're still going to have to meet all

651
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:10,960
the requirements of the town that you

652
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,760
just set forward.

653
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,520
>> Yes, sir. the the conditions uh the

654
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,039
recommended conditions and any condition

655
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:16,960
that is imposed by town council they

656
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,880
would have to follow as well as UDO

657
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,360
requirements building code requirements

658
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,360
uh if approved tonight the next steps uh

659
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,559
when they decide to build would be the

660
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:26,799
port building permit uh I would probably

661
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:28,880
meet with them beforehand uh and then a

662
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,080
zoning permit to make sure they're

663
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,679
meeting setbacks of the R3 zoning

664
00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,200
district so there's still checks and

665
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600
balances in place to make sure that all

666
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,080
the requirements are being met

667
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,559
>> are there any other questions of you

668
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,960
from council.

669
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,000
>> Okay. Thanks.

670
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,520
>> And Chris, if you don't mind, just come

671
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,080
forward just so we can establish

672
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,000
something for the record. Um, similar to

673
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,840
what I asked uh Dwayne, um, basically

674
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,440
the reasons you think this is a good

675
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,360
idea. Are those the same reasons they

676
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:00,799
thought it was a good idea

677
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,760
>> to change the designation from R5 to R3?

678
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000
>> Absolutely. And as it relates to this

679
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480
specific request to allow subdivision in

680
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,240
the full residential lots, anything that

681
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,679
you want to add to your earlier

682
00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:13,440
statements?

683
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000
>> I'm open for questions if anybody has

684
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120
any, but I think um you know, I think

685
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,159
most of it has been said and these are

686
00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:24,400
not the last four that I want to build

687
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480
for the town or the community. So

688
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,240
obviously I'm I'm going to work through

689
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,600
everything we need to get through to get

690
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,600
these right. What would be your goal

691
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,679
time

692
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,840
once everything's approved?

693
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,919
>> Honestly, I've got so much going on

694
00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:40,320
right now. I tell people all the time, I

695
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,400
could start you sooner than most people,

696
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720
but it's taken me longer. So, most

697
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,240
houses are taking me six, seven months.

698
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,919
Now, these are not really large, but

699
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:52,480
I've got a great team that I use on

700
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,200
every single house, and there's a whole

701
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919
lot of them going on right now,

702
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:01,279
mostly in Cholan and Ed. Few inquiries

703
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,120
>> in this particular parcel. Will you be

704
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:04,880
doing one house at a time?

705
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,880
>> Uh, probably at least two at a time. Two

706
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,279
at a time,

707
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,760
>> right? Two at a time. Um, initially that

708
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,360
would leave a great, you know,

709
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,200
tremendous layown area. It will get more

710
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,799
challenging as we get down to the last

711
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,080
lot. But, um, we've got, if you ride by

712
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000
now, we've got one staked out at the

713
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,159
other end that we were going to do. Um,

714
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,520
and I'm probably going to do two of

715
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760
those at the same time. We're doing two

716
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,840
simultaneous in Cape Colony. We've done

717
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240
that before. That makes it easier for

718
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,000
everybody. And if something's not quite

719
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,880
ready, they can go next door.

720
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,000
>> They all look a little different,

721
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,400
though.

722
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,360
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

723
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,039
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're working on

724
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,159
elevations now.

725
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:43,200
>> Okay. Um, we want it to look we want it

726
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200
to look like it belongs here but not

727
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,360
look like, you know, four in a row that

728
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:48,320
look the same.

729
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:48,799
>> Yeah.

730
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:50,400
>> How many of your houses that you've done

731
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,240
have you sold in Cape Colony?

732
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200
>> Seven. Maybe.

733
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,559
>> All of them. I can tell you.

734
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:01,120
>> Seven. And we're building two more right

735
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:01,679
now.

736
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:04,960
>> Yeah. Two under construction. We have 10

737
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,919
or 12 more lots in there. We're working

738
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:10,720
with that HOA. They're trying to

739
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200
strengthen their HOA again. So, we're

740
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
helping them do that and helping them.

741
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,200
>> And you move those fairly quickly,

742
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,480
haven't you? I mean, it's not been any

743
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,120
problem at all.

744
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:22,000
>> No, we've seen some of them we come in

745
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,799
with the USDA customer in place and and

746
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:28,799
the ones that we feel all we got people

747
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,320
interested in one right now that's only

748
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200
a foundation. I I I can't finish it fast

749
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
enough for some people, you know.

750
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,919
>> Honestly, it's almost impossible to

751
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:41,360
build a a spec house in this area

752
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,440
because somebody's gonna buy it before

753
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,760
we go. It's going to be a contract

754
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720
house, you know, and a lot of times they

755
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,120
want to do that soon enough to make

756
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,520
selections, which we let them make some

757
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,640
selections. Siding color, paint color,

758
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
maybe flooring, you know, certain things

759
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,320
that they can pick. They get there fast

760
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,799
enough.

761
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,760
>> Okay. Anything else?

762
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,320
>> Okay. Thank you, Chris. Thank you.

763
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320
>> Next, we move to the public hearing

764
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,880
portion of this [laughter] public

765
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,360
hearing. Uh is there any public comment?

766
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,480
Again, uh limit your comments to three

767
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,399
minutes. And if you'll come forward and

768
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:21,919
let us know your name, identify

769
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:23,279
yourself, we'll be glad to hear from

770
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,399
you. Any comments on this? There

771
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,960
appearing to be none. We next move to uh

772
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,559
the section of the agenda where town

773
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,039
council can uh ask further questions,

774
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,279
seek uh answers, and also deliberate.

775
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,960
Are there any further further comments

776
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600
or questions as it relates to this uh

777
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,870
application?

778
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,720
» Okay, as we did before, we have to go

779
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640
through the five questions. At this

780
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200
time, I would entertain a motion that

781
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440
the subdivision as proposed would not

782
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,080
endanger the public health or safety.

783
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440
>> So, move second.

784
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,679
>> We got a motion and second. Um all in

785
00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:00,880
favor of finding that the um subdivision

786
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,799
would not endanger the public health or

787
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,760
safety, please signify by saying I. I.

788
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,840
>> Any opposed?

789
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,480
>> Next question for consideration is um

790
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,440
that the subdivision will not injure the

791
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,279
value of a joining or abing property. Do

792
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:16,720
I have a motion and second?

793
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,080
>> Motion, sir.

794
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080
>> Okay, we've got a motion and second. All

795
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,480
in favor of finding that the subdivision

796
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,320
will not injure the value of adjoining

797
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,399
or voting properties, please signify by

798
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:27,440
saying I.

799
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,000
>> I.

800
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,760
>> Any opposed?

801
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,360
>> The next question that we have to

802
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,559
consider is um whether the subdivision

803
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,080
will be in harmony with the area in

804
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
which it is located.

805
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,360
>> Motion second.

806
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,200
>> All in favor of a finding that the

807
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,799
subdivision will be in harmony with the

808
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,880
area which is located, please signify by

809
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,960
saying I. I. Any opposed?

810
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Next up question is consideration of

811
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,760
whether the sub condition will be in

812
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
conformity with the land use plan, third

813
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
rate plan or other plan officially

814
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840
adopted by town council. I'll entertain

815
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,360
a motion and a second regard to that

816
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,559
question.

817
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,000
>> So second.

818
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,919
>> Okay, we've got a motion and second. All

819
00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:09,919
in favor of the finding that the

820
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:11,760
subdivision will be in conformity with

821
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,559
the land use plan, the thoroughfare plan

822
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,799
or any other plan officially adopted by

823
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,559
the town council, please signify by

824
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,080
saying I. I.

825
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320
>> Any opposed?

826
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,559
>> Okay. And then we move to the ultimate

827
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,279
question. Uh this time based on the

828
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:28,960
positive answer to the four previous

829
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,919
questions, I would entertain a motion uh

830
00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:35,360
to approve this major um special use

831
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,039
application.

832
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:37,840
Second.

833
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,120
>> Okay. All in favor of approval of the uh

834
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,000
major special use um permit application

835
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,080
as presented, please signify by saying

836
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,120
I.

837
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,870
>> Any opposed?

838
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,200
That is approved. Next we move to agenda

839
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,310
item

840
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,120
subsection D and this is a consideration

841
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,799
of case number RZ 26-3

842
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,440
an application from Interbanks Asset

843
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,559
Group LLC which involves a request to

844
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,600
reszone the property located at 307 East

845
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Queen Street from R5 residential to R3

846
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440
residential. The subject property is

847
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
further identified as having pin number

848
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,950
7804-08-88-921.

849
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200
At this time, we would ask Dwayne Wilton

850
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:39,190
to come forward with the staff report.

851
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000
» All right. Um

852
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240
this is uh

853
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,760
an application uh for a um basically

854
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,960
reszoning from R5 to R3 zoning district

855
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,799
3070s Queen Street.48 acres uh

856
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,080
basically the same as before. Um within

857
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,559
town um classified as medium to high

858
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,559
density residential.

859
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,120
um vacant. This this particular lot was

860
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,279
a vacant land with a former class C

861
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:14,000
trailer park uh on it. Um

862
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,679
the request resone after mentioned

863
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:18,960
parcels um from R5 which is 5,000 ft to

864
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,159
R3 allowing 3,000 ft minimum. Uh this

865
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:23,679
resist may be considered appropriate

866
00:33:23,679 --> 00:33:24,960
given the compatibility surrounding

867
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720
residential properties in the tenant

868
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,720
purpose of the parcel. proposed

869
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960
reszoning classification R3 residential

870
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,880
does not alter the predominant existing

871
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,320
land use pattern in the surrounding

872
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640
area. Uh the potential reszoning of this

873
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,799
parcel R3 residential is consistent with

874
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,960
future land use plan designation of this

875
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,480
enabling properties as medium high

876
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,360
density. Um proposed reserve results in

877
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,960
no change either existing or future land

878
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,320
use classification properties.

879
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200
Uh you see a uh current zoning map uh

880
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,799
showing

881
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,480
uh the R5 uh zoning district

882
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,000
uh as well as the location of that and

883
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,588
the location on the

884
00:34:05,588 --> 00:34:07,679
[clears throat] land use map. Uh staff

885
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,159
has determined that application from uh

886
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,119
Jes from for a zoning map amendment

887
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,919
reszoning is complete that is uh

888
00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:18,480
compatible with the 2018 showing land

889
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,320
use plan and that the reasoning will

890
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,839
result in no inconsistency with the

891
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:23,599
existing future land use classification

892
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,800
for the subject property. Uh plan board

893
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,639
metal March 2nd unanimously recommended

894
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,599
approval of this resoning request. Uh,

895
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,839
one thing I do want to state is um that

896
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:36,960
this is this is just a reszoning uh and

897
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
not uh a major special use permit or

898
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,359
anything like that. This is just the

899
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:43,040
they're going to uh present what their

900
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,040
intentions are with the property. But uh

901
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,159
this isn't if if it requires them to

902
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,839
come back for a specialist permit, they

903
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:52,320
will. Uh I think after this I would work

904
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,079
with them on any feedback that is given

905
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,960
to kind of u wrangle it in. But, uh, as

906
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,720
what they've given me, it meets the R5

907
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,680
zoning district, um, requirements. Uh,

908
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
so I just wanted to put that up. But,

909
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,320
um, so, and then the town council, uh,

910
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,320
planning consistency standard.

911
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,040
>> Well, that's it.

912
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:17,760
>> Okay. Any questions? Uh, Dwayne, do does anybody remember how

913
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480
many mobile homes were on this lot?

914
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,320
>> If I remember correctly, I think there's

915
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,400
six uh, structure points. Am I might be

916
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,480
located.

917
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,000
There are six structure points up there,

918
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,280
which leads me to believe there was at

919
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,320
least six at any given time uh of class

920
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
C trailers on that location. Uh when I

921
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,520
got here, I think there was two or three

922
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,839
uh left, but uh historically there's

923
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:43,040
four structure points leading me to

924
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,800
believe there was at least six

925
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,720
structures on the property.

926
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:54,069
Is this near the oldest house

927
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:57,119
» mayor point out that it's it's odd that

928
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,000
we have to vote on this for six new

929
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,160
property new houses to go there when

930
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,520
before there was six homes there.

931
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,599
>> Yeah,

932
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,400
>> that's why I asked a question. Yeah,

933
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,040
>> I think previously the property was

934
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000
non-conforming use for this location.

935
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,880
>> Yeah, I think uh given the it happened

936
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,200
some point in and with zoning uh that it probably became non-conforming with

937
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,320
it. Uh but historically, you know, I

938
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,680
don't know how far this goes back,

939
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,359
probably the 70s or 80s, there's at

940
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,680
least been six structure points and I

941
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,280
can get the history probably from land

942
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,040
records and bring next time if we come,

943
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,960
but uh come back for a special use

944
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,160
permit.

945
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,079
I think historically there's was

946
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,079
operating as non-conforming but had six

947
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,880
units on.

948
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,599
>> Okay. Any other questions or comments

949
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,079
while he's up there?

950
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:55,030
>> Okay. Thank you again.

951
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Next we've got uh presentation from the

952
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:13,910
applicant or the representatives.

953
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Good evening,

954
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,720
Mr. Mayor and town council. Um, like

955
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,240
Dwayne mentioned, we're working on the

956
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,160
R3s tonight. Um, I come as a private

957
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520
resident. Um, we'd like to test the uh

958
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,240
cottage fort concept in that um on that

959
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,480
lot similar to the uh trailer parks. And

960
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640
we've thrown together a kind of a 3D

961
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
rendered model of what that could

962
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,720
potentially look like uh with a a

963
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,400
walkable

964
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,560
uh smaller square foot concept um that

965
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,240
provides accessible housing units that

966
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,960
are walkable downtown um and right next

967
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,800
to and honor that kind of street near

968
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,400
the the mill village. Um, so this is just a mockup of a model. The

969
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,079
architectural designs have not been

970
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,240
finalized or anything of that sort, but

971
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,000
the idea being that this is Queen Street

972
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,800
here. And so you have the cottage court

973
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,720
concept in the R3 zoning is that all the

974
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,520
houses face a common common courtyard.

975
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Uh, 300 square ft per unit. Uh, and then

976
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
the clean street facing houses, which

977
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,400
actually I think I turned it around on

978
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,880
you, would be this side, would have kind

979
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,400
of a wraparound porch to look as if

980
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,960
they're facing the street as well as the

981
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,000
common space between the units. [cough]

982
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,079
>> Are they [clears throat] about 1,000 ft?

983
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,440
>> That's the That's what we're going off

984
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,720
of. A two bed, one bath, 900 to,000 ft.

985
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,831
>> A little crowded in that area.

986
00:38:32,831 --> 00:38:33,359
[clears throat]

987
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,760
>> It is a tight concept. That's what the

988
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,599
that lot can support. You couldn't do

989
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,440
any more unless you go a lot smaller on

990
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,880
the square footage. You could do a tiny

991
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,720
home concept. But the R3 zoning allows

992
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,839
from four to 12 units on a single lot

993
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:46,880
>> without subdividing.

994
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,720
>> You seen a really interesting older one

995
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,480
in

996
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,800
a

997
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,359
>> Yeah, it's really

998
00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:55,040
>> it's kind of it's mocked up on the same

999
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,880
and trying to mimic the the um the mill

1000
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,400
village, you know what I mean? Same kind

1001
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,240
of concept, same kind of houses. So, it

1002
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,400
kind of blends in with it. Not trying to

1003
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,880
stand it out. Not trying to make a track

1004
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,920
housing in there. Not trying to put up a

1005
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,760
townhouse. I think it would stand out a

1006
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,960
little too much in that area, but I

1007
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,800
think that was also approved in that

1008
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,800
area. But, you know, this would just

1009
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,400
kind of just blend with everything on

1010
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,880
the street and up the street and just

1011
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,720
trying to mimic

1012
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,240
what the town already is.

1013
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,000
>> So, that's Queen going.

1014
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,240
>> Yeah. Okay. So, you sleep down.

1015
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,680
>> Yeah. I mean, these are models just to

1016
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,599
put it on there so people grasp. But

1017
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:35,280
like like he said, wrapping the front

1018
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680
porches around the front to, you know,

1019
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,040
give it more of a a street view and then

1020
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,880
mimicking the houses down, but not

1021
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480
trying to change the houses too much.

1022
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,680
Not trying to make one small, one

1023
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,560
little. They're all going to pretty much

1024
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
coincide with each other like this to

1025
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,800
make them all blend

1026
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040
just like

1027
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160
each character, color, elevation. Okay.

1028
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,960
And to get to the back ones

1029
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,320
>> be two two uh two roads on either side

1030
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,079
of the units. And to your earlier

1031
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,560
>> roads be behind like in the backyard so

1032
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,280
to speak.

1033
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,720
>> Right now the site the site does not

1034
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,119
support that without the setback

1035
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:16,880
requirements and of that sort. But to

1036
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,079
your earlier question council Miller

1037
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,079
you could do less units but then the

1038
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,079
economics of the development of the site

1039
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:25,839
require larger units at a higher price

1040
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:27,839
point. You could do

1041
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:30,240
So the six units at a smaller footprint

1042
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,079
makes the economic makes it paper a

1043
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:34,240
little better. [clears throat] Um if you

1044
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,160
bring it in and split it into two two

1045
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,920
lots or two units on there, you got to

1046
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,320
do larger houses at a higher price

1047
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,880
point.

1048
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:49,510
>> So the

1049
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,480
each house has a driveway.

1050
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,400
It does next to it. And there is room

1051
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,720
enough to double the driveway to double

1052
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,880
the car parking. Again, this is just a

1053
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,839
concept that we put together to get

1054
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:04,000
through the approval. And then obviously

1055
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,800
once through this approval, we then go

1056
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,400
to the building approvals, which then

1057
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
we'll change up what we have to to make

1058
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,079
the changes, you know, to meet code.

1059
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:15,280
One nice thing about having the

1060
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,520
driveways on the side is that it adds to

1061
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,599
the set, you know,

1062
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,000
>> I think this is just so awesome. Yeah,

1063
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,760
this we we understand there hasn't been

1064
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,440
a cottage sport in Eston. This is more

1065
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,319
to visualize it.

1066
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,079
>> Yeah.

1067
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:29,920
>> As planned, like if I'm looking at your

1068
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,960
mock up here and models in front of me,

1069
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,560
if if I own that far left, I would drive

1070
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,839
on this side.

1071
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:41,839
>> His left.

1072
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:45,393
>> Yeah.

1073
00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:49,910
[laughter]

1074
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,990
» Okay. Are there any other questions?

1075
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,960
» All right. Thank you.

1076
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,079
>> Thank you.

1077
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:01,829
>> Make it look good.

1078
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:05,670
» No other way.

1079
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,040
» Okay. Next uh we come uh to the uh

1080
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
public comment public hearing um phase

1081
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,880
of this particular public hearing. Um,

1082
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,240
if you have comments, please step

1083
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,160
forward, identify yourself, and limit

1084
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,870
your comments to three minutes.

1085
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,704
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor. council.

1086
00:42:24,704 --> 00:42:25,839
[clears throat]

1087
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:30,560
My um biggest concern comment and I I

1088
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,560
guess it would also apply to the

1089
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,599
structures to be built on North Oak is

1090
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,040
last year because of power failure.

1091
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,359
According to the lineman who worked on

1092
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:46,319
the lines across from my house, my brand

1093
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:49,920
new HVAC unit was blown out because what

1094
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,040
the linemen had told me is one fuse, one

1095
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,280
transformer blew, they changed the

1096
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,520
transformer, power went back on, and

1097
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,000
then another transformer blew, they

1098
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,720
changed that and another one went on. So

1099
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,480
last, I believe it was around October,

1100
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,319
um the power went on and off three times

1101
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:13,280
on South Oak Street. My home is at 107

1102
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,760
South Oak. My name is Leslie Kasbarrow.

1103
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,079
I apologize for not saying that to begin

1104
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:23,440
with. Um I live at 107 South Oak. My uh

1105
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
the computer board inside of our HVAC

1106
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,800
unit was blown out. Uh both the

1107
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,599
electricians from the town told me it

1108
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,480
was because of the power outages as did

1109
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,200
the four separate HVAC companies who

1110
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,960
still have not been able to find a a

1111
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,520
control board to put in to fix my brand

1112
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,000
new HVAC system that I put in uh a year

1113
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,560
less than a year ago. My entire winter

1114
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,760
was spent with space heaters and a gas

1115
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,560
fireplace. Thankfully, I'm in a position

1116
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,119
where I can afford to pay twice as much

1117
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,680
for my utilities because I can't use my

1118
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,920
brand new HVAC system. If you're

1119
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,960
planning on 10 more housing units on the

1120
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,520
exact same block,

1121
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,040
I want to make sure that we're not going

1122
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760
to have issues with power, that there's

1123
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,319
substantial issues with power. I know

1124
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:22,319
having had meetings with the town and

1125
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:25,680
the town has and I would like to

1126
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
personally commend Corey um for

1127
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:31,520
following through, taking very accurate

1128
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,319
notes and and and really trying to

1129
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:36,960
assist us with a variety of issues we

1130
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
had and I have absolutely no complaints

1131
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,160
about any of that. He stood up to his

1132
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,200
word on everything. I'm not looking to

1133
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,000
damper anyone's projects. Certainly, I

1134
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,440
own a restaurant. So, when you bring

1135
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,760
more people in, it's much more money in

1136
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,319
my pocket, but I don't want to live

1137
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:56,960
another winter with pieced together, and

1138
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,800
I'm certainly not going through a summer

1139
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,359
here with no air conditioning. So, I

1140
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:04,240
want to make sure that there are things

1141
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,599
in place that will guarantee that we're

1142
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:09,839
not going to cause more problems with

1143
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:13,040
the grid by putting all these new

1144
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,680
houses. That's my one concern.

1145
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,400
>> Thank you.

1146
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Thank you for that, Senator.

1147
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,000
Any other comments from the general

1148
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,839
public?

1149
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,359
>> I just want to say I think it's

1150
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:25,839
spectacular to have a have that built

1151
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:28,640
here in Eden. I mean, I see people

1152
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,800
copying that all over Eastern North

1153
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,920
Carolina. I think uh it's just

1154
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,680
wonderful.

1155
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,480
>> Thank you, Larry.

1156
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:45,670
>> Okay, come come forward.

1157
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,920
My name is Mimi Stark. I live on Philip

1158
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,079
Street in the Middle Village. Um, I've

1159
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:51,920
never paid attention to any of this.

1160
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,160
is my first night to know about it.

1161
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,480
My concerns that the houses are not so

1162
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,400
tight together that if you sneeze on one

1163
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,079
porch, they say, "God bless you." One

1164
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:04,800
down. Um, I think there needs to be a

1165
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,640
substantial sideyard between these

1166
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040
houses. And I I question if six is too

1167
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,337
many, perhaps it should be four.

1168
00:46:11,337 --> 00:46:12,079
[clears throat]

1169
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:13,440
I think it's [laughter] wonderful. It's

1170
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,640
going to be used. I hope they're

1171
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,240
charming. I hope they look just like

1172
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,079
that original little house that's there.

1173
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,160
But I just I don't want to see it be so

1174
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,839
tied together that it it looks

1175
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,160
overcrowded.

1176
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:32,470
>> Thank you.

1177
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,359
» Okay, there appearing to be no further

1178
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:37,839
public comment. Okay, come on Pat.

1179
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:40,240
>> I'm Pat Groker. I also live in the mill

1180
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,160
village and I'm just wondering what the

1181
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,160
distance is from wall to wall on those

1182
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,400
houses in the mill village it's 27 ft.

1183
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480
So if it's at least that much it looks

1184
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,790
like it'll be okay.

1185
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,119
Do you know do you know approximately

1186
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,200
>> I just want to reiterate that this is

1187
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,760
just this is just

1188
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,440
>> this is not yet and then we can we're

1189
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,440
going to work through for as we get to

1190
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,000
our special use permit um but this is

1191
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,680
just for reasonzoning to move forward

1192
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,000
with the

1193
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,319
site design and stuff like that all that

1194
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:18,800
>> they'll be back here the preservation

1195
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,520
commission also

1196
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,920
>> it's just outside the pres

1197
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,319
>> so they'll be back the applicant will be

1198
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:27,280
back Yes, correct.

1199
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,160
>> Yes.

1200
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,560
>> And we've got a excellent example of how

1201
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,760
it works, but it can work either way.

1202
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,760
>> Here we have an applicant who's asking

1203
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,960
for the change from R5 to R3 and they're

1204
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
going to come back later to request the

1205
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,119
special. And then earlier we had Mr.

1206
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:46,880
sellers and Chris come to us and they

1207
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,040
ask for a reasonzoning from R5 to R3 and

1208
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
then follow that up in the same here

1209
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,480
tonight as for um the approval of the

1210
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,680
special use permit. That's right.

1211
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,319
>> So, one did in one meeting and one's

1212
00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:01,599
doing it one now and

1213
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,119
>> that was because of the snowstorm that

1214
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:06,079
kind of hooked us up with with the first

1215
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:07,680
the special use per they come that's

1216
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,960
when the conditions for the placement

1217
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,319
property. This is just the reason I need

1218
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:11,760
to see it. It's even allowable to move

1219
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,319
forward, but that's

1220
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:18,000
>> And does the um the special use permit

1221
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,760
does it always involve the TRC, the

1222
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680
technical review committee, or is that

1223
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,359
just a certain size development?

1224
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,280
>> Uh usually certain size development

1225
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,599
coming in. Uh these what I would do is

1226
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,480
uh which David has left, but see what

1227
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,079
needs to be done from an infrastructure

1228
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:34,400
standpoint if the taps are still there.

1229
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Uh but it's just an infield development.

1230
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,760
that's not one of your larger

1231
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,000
developments that will require all kinds

1232
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,680
of, you know, infrastructure to be

1233
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,640
placed on the property. So, uh, we'll

1234
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,480
probably have like a small TRC that we

1235
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
would run. This is just, um, we would

1236
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,800
probably do that either right before or

1237
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,400
just after to make sure everything's

1238
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,880
been this is a smaller development

1239
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,760
trigger.

1240
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,359
>> And given the concerns that have been

1241
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,280
raised with the electric department be a

1242
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,960
part of that smaller version of the T.

1243
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,800
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Usually

1244
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,280
it's department within the town that

1245
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,160
would be a part of any small discussions

1246
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,319
that would require that. Absolutely.

1247
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:14,000
>> And at those meetings you'll bring it up

1248
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319
to the um electoral department.

1249
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:17,680
>> That way we can have some answers at the

1250
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,800
next meeting to be able to kind of tell

1251
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,520
you what's going on and if it's good to

1252
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,829
go.

1253
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:29,920
» You got a question? So Cy, last meeting

1254
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,240
we talked about the new grid and how we

1255
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:36,960
can transfer power from station to

1256
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,400
station. Correct.

1257
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,559
Would if 10 of these were to overload

1258
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,040
it, do we have room to transfer it to

1259
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,400
another area?

1260
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,240
>> Yes. So we feed in off Church Street in

1261
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,960
two locations, particularly with the

1262
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,160
location. Schwarz is located right at of

1263
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,079
our

1264
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,720
circuit disconnects. Um, and one of the

1265
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,640
things we've been doing and particularly

1266
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,139
for this one is to move the

1267
00:50:07,139 --> 00:50:08,559
[clears throat] service line for this

1268
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:10,960
particular property just north of that

1269
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,119
so it stays on. But one of the things

1270
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:14,640
we've been doing for our system

1271
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,319
improvements is putting those back into

1272
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,119
auto closures where they cycle and close

1273
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,960
on their own. So as things return, crews

1274
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,559
don't have to come back out and switch

1275
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,200
those in as sealed units. We do have the

1276
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,599
ability to feed the Queen Street

1277
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,760
location from both Hill Village side as

1278
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,240
well as the Oakland Street side. And

1279
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,839
there was some um

1280
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:40,720
above ground power that was removed from

1281
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,599
the rear of the property when we um were

1282
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:48,150
able to work with the former propert

1283
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,720
um from the original six homes that were

1284
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,440
there. So there may be a third entry

1285
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,119
point at the north end of this 2acre

1286
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,640
property that's already there for

1287
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,760
overhead. So we may have three options

1288
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,280
to choose from here. And with the uh

1289
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,599
mill village line, do we have the same

1290
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,760
degree? How do we have the same degree

1291
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,319
of difficulties as was described on Oak

1292
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:13,040
Street?

1293
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,359
>> No. Um particularly with Mill Village,

1294
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:17,680
the only service area in town that's

1295
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,160
powered by Dominion. So it's not a town

1296
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,839
electric customer,

1297
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:24,240
>> but you can still route it that way. Uh

1298
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:25,680
is that through some interlocal

1299
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,720
agreement or

1300
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:30,800
>> we have overhead that um parallels the

1301
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,359
area there along the railroad track

1302
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:36,160
>> um and east to west along church and

1303
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960
then north to south on as well as on

1304
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,640
street 400 block of east

1305
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,640
>> and next is up and running in that part

1306
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,359
of town.

1307
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:49,440
>> Um I I do not know.

1308
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,480
But um we started really at our most

1309
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
outer edges and we're working our way

1310
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,319
back towards the center there.

1311
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:04,230
>> Any other questions, comments, concerns?

1312
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,319
» Okay, as we've done before, uh let's go

1313
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:09,119
through the five questions. Um the first

1314
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,760
question is whether or not the um

1315
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,720
resoning would not endanger the public

1316
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,119
health or safety. And I would entertain

1317
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,390
a motion, a second regard that question.

1318
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:22,880
» Second.

1319
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,599
>> Okay, I got a motion and a second. All

1320
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,359
in favor of finding that the

1321
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,040
reasonzoning will not endanger the

1322
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,359
public health or safety, please signify

1323
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:32,480
by saying I.

1324
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,119
>> I.

1325
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,920
>> Any opposed?

1326
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,640
>> Okay. Next, uh we need to consider um

1327
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,240
whether or not we'll adopt a finding

1328
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,000
that the reasonzoning will not injure

1329
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,760
the value of adjoining or abuing

1330
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,319
property. We got a motion. We have a

1331
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:46,960
second.

1332
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,839
>> Second.

1333
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:50,160
>> Okay. All in favor of finding that this

1334
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,920
resoning will not injure the value of

1335
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,680
adjoining or rebuting property, please

1336
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,119
signify by saying I.

1337
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:55,760
>> I.

1338
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,430
>> Any opposed?

1339
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,599
» Next, we need to consider uh whether

1340
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:03,599
this resoning will be in harmony with

1341
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,079
the area which is located. I entertain a

1342
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,839
motion and second regard that finding.

1343
00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:09,680
So move.

1344
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,400
>> Okay, we've got a um motion in a second.

1345
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,079
Um, all in favor of finding that this

1346
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:17,920
resoning will be in harmony with the

1347
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,280
area in which it is located, please

1348
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,359
signify by saying I.

1349
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:23,119
>> Any opposed?

1350
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:25,440
>> And next, the fourth sub question is

1351
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,040
whether this would be in conformity with

1352
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,800
the land use plan, thorough effect plan,

1353
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,880
or other plan officially adopted by town

1354
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,319
council. Do I have a motion?

1355
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:33,599
>> All right. Second.

1356
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:34,400
>> Second.

1357
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,480
>> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

1358
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,800
finding that the proposed reszoning will

1359
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,040
be in conformity with the land use plan,

1360
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,520
thair plan or other plan officially

1361
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,599
adopted by town council, please signify

1362
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:47,920
by signify by saying I. I.

1363
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,760
>> Any opposed?

1364
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,680
>> Okay. Having answered those four sub

1365
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,319
questions in the affirmative. Uh we need

1366
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:56,720
a motion and a second on the um ultimate

1367
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:57,920
question of whether or not we're going

1368
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,400
to approve this um group proposed

1369
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,319
resoning. So moved.

1370
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:03,520
>> Is that a motion?

1371
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,839
>> Second. Got a motion and second. All in

1372
00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:09,520
favor of approving the reszoning from R5

1373
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,880
residential to R3 [clears throat]

1374
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,920
residential, please signify by saying I.

1375
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,920
>> Any oppose?

1376
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,599
>> Okay,

1377
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,520
thank you. Just bear with me. We got two

1378
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,079
more to go. The next matter that we need

1379
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:25,440
to consider is identified as public

1380
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,109
hearing dem.

1381
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,000
This is an application from Paul Latcher

1382
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,960
requesting to create six new lots by

1383
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,760
subdividing property located at 204

1384
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,839
Whiteman Lane. The um property is also

1385
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:49,430
identified by pen number 7805-58-786.

1386
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,920
And Dwayne, you're earning your keep on

1387
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,400
board.

1388
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440
>> This was a lot of work this last couple

1389
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,319
question.

1390
00:54:56,319 --> 00:54:58,400
>> Yes, sir. How far's lane was in the

1391
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,040
county?

1392
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
>> This is uh in the ETJ. So, it's uh in

1393
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,280
the planning jurisdiction of the town,

1394
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,880
but is it is outside the corporate

1395
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,559
limits? Yes, sir.

1396
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,440
>> It is uh

1397
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,359
>> I don't know how far it is in the ETJ

1398
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:14,079
away from county property, but that's uh

1399
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,079
it's within our county or town

1400
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:16,880
jurisdiction.

1401
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,720
>> It's in the county. It's in the county

1402
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,400
for tax purposes, but in the planning

1403
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,508
jurisdiction for town purposes

1404
00:55:23,508 --> 00:55:24,319
[laughter]

1405
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,319
>> that extend and that extends one mile

1406
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:28,319
past our corporate limits or our city

1407
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:30,079
limit. So it's within that one mile

1408
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:30,800
zone.

1409
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:31,280
>> Okay.

1410
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,079
>> Does that make sense?

1411
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,640
>> So that's right across from uh Ford

1412
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,640
Place and Hampton

1413
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,880
>> in that same down that same white lane.

1414
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Yes. Right.

1415
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,800
>> Yeah. And that is within one mile city.

1416
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,079
You trying to get out? I was just having

1417
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:49,359
to hear this.

1418
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:52,000
>> No, no. When when you say white lane,

1419
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
you know, always white lane was in the

1420
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,760
county, right? So, so I was just

1421
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,119
wondering where resident at.

1422
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,119
>> Yeah, he knows where his brothers are,

1423
00:55:59,119 --> 00:55:59,599
>> huh?

1424
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,498
>> You know where your brothers are?

1425
00:56:01,498 --> 00:56:03,670
[laughter]

1426
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,359
» Your water and sewer will go through who

1427
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:08,390
then?

1428
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,599
» Okay.

1429
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,760
>> So, is that property for sale?

1430
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:21,670
north of that was just north of where

1431
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,670
» that's all the way down.

1432
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,280
» Was that the property

1433
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,079
one time?

1434
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,480
>> That's more than

1435
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,960
>> the way the crow flies.

1436
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,359
more than a mile down there.

1437
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:42,799
>> It just feels like way down there. We've

1438
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:45,839
got we've got that ETJ mark on our map.

1439
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,839
>> That's down by you. A jar.

1440
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:50,799
>> There you go.

1441
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:53,280
>> That's down there up.

1442
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,480
>> Sit in our ATJ.

1443
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,160
>> Yeah, it goes actually down to where the

1444
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,400
pavement is the rocks.

1445
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,920
>> The pavement goes to the dirt road.

1446
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:00,960
That's it goes up.

1447
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,069
>> That crow will be tired by time.

1448
00:57:03,069 --> 00:57:07,829
[laughter]

1449
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:10,000
» Okay, Dwayne, we'll leave it up to you

1450
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,079
for the presentation of staff reports.

1451
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,240
Yes sir. And uh I look now see I made a

1452
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:15,760
mistake on my staff report. This was for

1453
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,280
six lots

1454
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,799
>> not for four. I put four down there but

1455
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:22,240
this is for six lots. Um it is a basic

1456
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,720
manage permit for a subdivision to

1457
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,880
subdivide lots not for a subdivision

1458
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,160
which you would think of create new

1459
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,240
roads extension to sewer services or

1460
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,920
anything like that. It's just creating

1461
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,319
new lots. So we're turning uh they're

1462
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:36,400
going to be turning 18 acres uh which is

1463
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,880
right there or 20 residential. Right now

1464
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,200
it is vacant uh I guess existing

1465
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,280
farmland or or was farmland at some

1466
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,880
point. Um so with this I I go through

1467
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,480
and look at encourage population growth,

1468
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,559
promote economic uh development, provide

1469
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,720
recreation and open space and foster

1470
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,599
housing choice. Uh the goals listed um

1471
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:57,520
the most applicable goals is development

1472
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,240
develop and implement strategies to

1473
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,599
promote three generation population

1474
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:03,280
growth in town that builds on existing

1475
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,440
resources and efforts to attract retirey

1476
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,200
population. expand these efforts to

1477
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,720
include attracting new millennial and

1478
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200
mid-career professionals. Uh ensure the

1479
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,400
town's development ordinance is

1480
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,799
conducive to economic trends as telecom

1481
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:15,760
community college industry

1482
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,440
entrepreneurship establish local

1483
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,720
development policies, programs,

1484
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,720
resources promote increased ownership

1485
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,559
within town. Uh

1486
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,079
>> the town will encourage the location of

1487
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:27,680
business residential development service

1488
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,680
providers that serve retirees while

1489
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,520
create jobs for younger residents. Uh

1490
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,599
the town encourages the development of

1491
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,280
housing type that accommodate retirees,

1492
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,520
young professional, millennials.

1493
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,760
Um as you stated, this is outside of the

1494
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,040
town corporate limits. Uh uh the water

1495
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,240
uh services um

1496
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,040
will be uh available by Chan County and

1497
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,760
electric by the town. Uh the park is

1498
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,730
located um within the town's HJ. Um

1499
00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:57,200
[clears throat] the subject uh property

1500
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,880
is located uh on Whiteitman Lane.

1501
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,160
Uh so basically R20 means a minimum of

1502
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,319
20,000 square feet. If you look at the

1503
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:07,599
preliminary plat that was submitted

1504
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,440
within the application, we're ranging

1505
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,720
anywhere between uh two and almost 4

1506
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,720
acres I believe it was. So well above um

1507
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,319
what is actually needed for that

1508
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:21,359
particular zoning district. Uh the

1509
00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:22,799
recommendation of the major special use

1510
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:24,240
per process requires advocates to

1511
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,559
specify specify the exact proposed use

1512
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,319
of land uh and allows town council to

1513
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:29,440
place restriction on the actual

1514
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,599
development. Uh according to the

1515
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:33,280
advocates, I'll let them speak on this

1516
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,559
uh for single family detached uh loans.

1517
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:38,960
Uh the plan board met on March 2nd, 2026

1518
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,520
and unanimously uh recommended approval

1519
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,040
uh of the miss use permit application uh

1520
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,920
along with the uh five questions that

1521
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,440
y'all will vote on tonight. Uh next is

1522
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,400
the uh future land use map uh showing

1523
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,400
the location. Uh and if you have that

1524
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,680
front of you, Councilman Bond, you'll

1525
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,079
see that is just inside the ETJ

1526
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:02,480
limits

1527
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,160
>> as a profile. as

1528
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:11,520
um so uh the proposed um staff

1529
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,880
recommendation along with the planning

1530
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,680
board all details and improvements uh

1531
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,960
shall be installed and constructed in

1532
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,119
according UDO requirements all necessary

1533
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:21,280
traffic improve improvements utility

1534
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,480
installation and connections um shall be

1535
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,200
installed uh by the developer and fees

1536
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,040
associated fees board and storm water

1537
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,680
drainage shall meet any required NCDQ

1538
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,200
regulations

1539
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,440
Um and staff does find the proposed you

1540
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,799
speak before me with the uh land use

1541
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:42,799
plan, eat joint land use plan um for you

1542
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:46,799
know lower density uh residential areas.

1543
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:48,160
>> Yeah, I hear you right. But didn't you

1544
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,079
say water was going to be provided by

1545
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:53,040
the county?

1546
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,640
>> So electricity is not going to be

1547
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,400
provided by the town either, right?

1548
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,960
>> Yeah, we have electric runs down by the

1549
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,359
way. How

1550
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:02,799
>> about is it

1551
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:04,799
We have electric that comes in north

1552
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:08,799
from Paradise across Paradise Fur along

1553
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:12,000
the dirt path to the farthest end of

1554
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,470
Paradise and then down or

1555
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,119
» that is

1556
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,760
electric

1557
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,000
any concerns from residents?

1558
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,440
>> Not that I'm aware of. I think I've

1559
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,599
spoken to a few. Um, I think there was

1560
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:31,520
some misconception cuz anytime somebody

1561
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,200
hears about a major subdivision, they

1562
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,119
automatically think uh they're going to

1563
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,839
put in a lot of houses when when in fact

1564
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:39,359
this is just creating lots that are

1565
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,200
going to be accessed only from White

1566
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,440
Lane. There's no internal roads. Uh,

1567
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,839
it's just going to be very large lots

1568
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:47,760
with homes on them.

1569
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,640
>> How many? Six.

1570
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,119
>> Six.

1571
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:50,640
That's right.

1572
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,480
>> These lots different size.

1573
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,079
>> Yeah, I think they range and I I'll let

1574
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:55,599
the advocate speak on it. you have your

1575
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:59,760
preliminary uh uh plat uh in your

1576
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,040
application. I want to say they range

1577
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,319
from 2 point some acres to high three

1578
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:08,789
acres.

1579
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,960
» This is sort of more of the same I mean

1580
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,440
it sort of down there now.

1581
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,680
>> Yeah, it's it's very rural down there.

1582
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,040
This is going to maintain the rural

1583
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,839
feeling. It's not uh high density. It's

1584
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,319
very very low density. Like I said, a

1585
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:23,839
developer could go in there and put in

1586
01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:27,680
20,000t lots, which is a half acre.

1587
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,119
>> And it's currently on what right now?

1588
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:29,680
>> R20.

1589
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,720
And it's going down to R4.

1590
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,200
>> No, no reszoning. It's just R20. Except

1591
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,520
this is going to be a lot higher density

1592
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:43,030
because it's larger lots.

1593
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,480
» Okay. Any other questions of the So,

1594
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,640
this is still going to be classified as

1595
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,280
county land. It's still county land, but

1596
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,000
we've got zoning control over that.

1597
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,359
>> I got that. But it's still going to be

1598
01:02:55,359 --> 01:02:58,240
county land.

1599
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,040
>> Yes.

1600
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,359
>> All right.

1601
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:03,760
>> You know, it's town utility, right?

1602
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,599
>> Yes.

1603
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:07,599
>> Any more questions?

1604
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,640
>> Is that where

1605
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,680
is because it's

1606
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,150
>> because it's within the ATJ.

1607
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,160
» Okay.

1608
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,640
neighbors in the city.

1609
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,920
>> All right. Thank you.

1610
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,720
>> Thanks, sir.

1611
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,960
>> Next, we'll hear from the applicant or

1612
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,200
the applicant's representatives. Good

1613
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,200
evening.

1614
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,280
>> Good evening. My name is Eddie Hman. I'm

1615
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,119
a professional land surveyor and I'm

1616
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,839
helping the client with the project. Uh

1617
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:41,039
we've done a bad survey prevention

1618
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,839
subdivision plat here of six locks. The

1619
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:46,559
clients wanted to use each all the

1620
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,200
existing drainage of the agriculture

1621
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,139
land and actually did have a

1622
01:03:51,139 --> 01:03:52,319
[clears throat] crop planted on it last

1623
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:55,440
year, soybeans. Um,

1624
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,960
and they didn't want to disrupt the

1625
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,720
drainage. So, we're going to let each

1626
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,839
cut of land be a lot and they vary in

1627
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:05,359
sizes from just a little under two acres

1628
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:09,440
to 4 and 12 acres, 4.3 acres. Again,

1629
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,839
there's we're putting six units on 18

1630
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:14,160
acres of land. which is very low

1631
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,000
density. Uh like I said, it exists under

1632
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,359
R20 zoning which would allow uh a lot on

1633
01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:24,799
every half acre. Uh but but going with

1634
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:26,960
the low density end is not to disrupt

1635
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,640
the drainage. Like I said, the existing

1636
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,880
drainage patterns are set up. So we

1637
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,079
didn't feel like going through and

1638
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:34,319
disrupting all that and doing a lot of

1639
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:36,480
land disturbing. Each cut of ground is

1640
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,839
going to be a one unit residential lot

1641
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:45,119
or one house. Um the

1642
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,520
um like I said the all the joint owners

1643
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,160
got mailings for the meetings. Uh you

1644
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,599
notify them all by mailings and uh but

1645
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,520
I'll be here to answer any questions you

1646
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,680
may have. And let me speak to your

1647
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,160
question about the ETJ.

1648
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,280
As cities grow, they want to have a say

1649
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,599
in what's been going on closely adjacent

1650
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:08,640
to into the county areas. So every city

1651
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,039
municipality has an ETJ that they have a

1652
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:13,760
say in of what's coming because at some

1653
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,240
point this may get annexed in later down

1654
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,760
the line. Uh but so as mun

1655
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,400
municipalities grow in all the counties

1656
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,440
they have an ETJ so they they can have a

1657
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,240
say in what's going on and uh and that's

1658
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,160
what's taking place here. We're actually

1659
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400
in the county and will remain in the

1660
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,599
county, but the uh but the city has a

1661
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:37,680
say on what's happening at their back

1662
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,039
door for now.

1663
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,280
>> Okay. What size houses are you planning

1664
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,145
on building?

1665
01:05:43,145 --> 01:05:43,680
[clears throat]

1666
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,720
>> Uh we're going to have to set up a

1667
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,480
um

1668
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,400
G restrictions and we'll probably be

1669
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,039
around 2,2500 square foot. Um, my plan

1670
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:57,520
is is not to build every house, but to

1671
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,079
just turn them into lots and then there

1672
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,559
sell them. Um, we may build a few houses

1673
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:05,039
cuz I do build homes for a living. So,

1674
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:06,880
we may build a few houses on a couple of

1675
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,960
them. We are not 100% sure yet. We're

1676
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,880
just trying to get this all kind of

1677
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,160
passed through and um get this part

1678
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,520
done.

1679
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:16,400
>> So, you're [clears throat] trying to get

1680
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,559
it established, build a couple of homes,

1681
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,559
and then sell the rest of the land for

1682
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:22,240
>> We could Well, we we could sell the

1683
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,200
lots. Yes, sir.

1684
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,880
>> But we will but we will set up deed

1685
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,640
restrictions because of course if we're

1686
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,920
going to keep some of the lots to build

1687
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,359
on, we want to make sure that the house

1688
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:33,200
that are built next to us follow the

1689
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,400
same guidelines that we are going to

1690
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:34,960
build.

1691
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,480
>> Is this going to be like a little

1692
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,640
community? You going to have streets in

1693
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,200
here?

1694
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:39,920
>> No.

1695
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,799
>> You think of that?

1696
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:42,480
>> Every every lot in here is going to

1697
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,069
throw on Whitman.

1698
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:47,599
» He's got a copy.

1699
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,599
>> But I'll show it to you.

1700
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:51,359
>> Can I can I approach you?

1701
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:52,960
>> Yeah, sure. Huh? I ain't going to shoot

1702
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,990
you. [laughter]

1703
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,680
» I hope so. Nice meeting you.

1704
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,720
This too small for you to read. This is

1705
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:08,630
>> I got glasses.

1706
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:18,789
» Each cutt

1707
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:20,880
I know that good. Okay. family that

1708
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,480
lives down there. That's why I'm asking

1709
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,710
a whole lot of questions.

1710
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,880
» Okay. So, each lot is going to go

1711
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,520
straight to the to the lane itself all

1712
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,640
the way to the back.

1713
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:41,190
>> Okay.

1714
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,480
» All right. I'll be available for any

1715
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,319
other questions. Do you foresee uh if

1716
01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:48,720
you were to sell one of these lots um

1717
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,640
somebody else asking us to subdivide

1718
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,960
that even further or would the covenants

1719
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,720
protect against that or the the deeds

1720
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:55,280
protected?

1721
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,799
>> We will protect we'll in the deed

1722
01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:58,640
restrictions we will put that they are

1723
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,720
to stay have we subdivide them.

1724
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:01,119
>> All right.

1725
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:05,029
>> Yes sir. Thank you.

1726
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,960
Still they told me what kind of houses

1727
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,079
you're doing

1728
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:10,160
>> single family

1729
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,079
>> homes

1730
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:13,760
in the in the D restrictions

1731
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,960
>> 2500

1732
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,679
>> in the D restrictions we'll put 2

1733
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:20,640
>> 2400 foot homes um the lots are nice

1734
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,480
size you know

1735
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:22,799
>> um

1736
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,359
>> if you think of a spec home at all

1737
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,120
>> yeah I mean that's we we do plan to

1738
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,040
build a spec

1739
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,960
what you know

1740
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,880
>> we do we do plan on building a spec home

1741
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,000
and that's why we would need heat

1742
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,319
restrictions. Um because if not then I

1743
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:38,000
could build a spec house and then they

1744
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,600
have a bunch of double wide trailers and

1745
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,120
that's not going to be

1746
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,120
>> in comparison to what we want it to look

1747
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:48,789
like. And

1748
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,880
» any more questions of the advocate?

1749
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,640
>> I have a question.

1750
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,400
>> Okay. I have a question.

1751
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,880
>> When you can come up um when it's we're

1752
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,080
getting ready to move to the public

1753
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:58,960
comment

1754
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,880
>> and if you'll express your concerns or

1755
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,319
questions and then we can bring them

1756
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:04,640
back up. Okay. We'll be glad to hear

1757
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,159
from you. We get really close to that

1758
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:08,159
part of the agenda. All right.

1759
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:08,560
>> Okay.

1760
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,040
>> So, we'll bring you up. Okay. From here

1761
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,440
from this uh council, are there any more

1762
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:13,920
questions?

1763
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,719
>> No, I'm eager to see what uh my uncle

1764
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:19,199
has to say. [laughter]

1765
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:20,640
>> Thank you. And if you were to stick

1766
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,359
around,

1767
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:22,960
>> I'll move over.

1768
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,880
>> Thank you.

1769
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,679
>> So, next we have the public comment uh

1770
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:30,000
period of this public hearing and I will

1771
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,520
open the public hearing on this

1772
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,120
particular

1773
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,759
agenda item. So, if anyone has any

1774
01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:37,279
questions or concerns, please come

1775
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,040
forward. We just ask that you identify

1776
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,440
yourself and limit your comments or

1777
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,440
questions to three minutes. So, please

1778
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:51,829
come forward.

1779
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,960
My name is Mary Copelan. Uh, some of my

1780
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,640
questions have already been asked, but

1781
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,719
anyway, I would like to know when the

1782
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:01,520
houses when they are built, will the

1783
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,400
houses be facing Whiteman Lane or will

1784
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:04,960
it be?

1785
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,719
>> Yes, Whiteman Lane. Yes, ma'am.

1786
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:08,880
>> Okay. All right. Will they all be the

1787
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,480
same color or

1788
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:13,360
>> No, that's they're going to be whatever

1789
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,360
the homeowner that would purchase the

1790
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,800
lot in the house would want to put a

1791
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,760
color.

1792
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,679
>> Okay. Um about how many bedrooms?

1793
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:28,630
>> Uh threebedroom, two bath is starting

1794
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,000
single families.

1795
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,080
>> Yes, ma'am.

1796
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,719
Um after you use part of the land that

1797
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:37,520
you plan to use or will other houses be

1798
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,719
built? Um

1799
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:39,920
>> no ma'am.

1800
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,760
>> The we have six lots. They're already

1801
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,679
subdivided by the ditches and that's

1802
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:46,640
where we keep we intend to keep them.

1803
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,040
>> Okay.

1804
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,000
>> All right. Thank you.

1805
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,280
>> Thank you. Thank you for coming forward.

1806
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,400
>> Anyone else?

1807
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,513
>> Are you going to stay quiet back there?

1808
01:10:59,513 --> 01:11:01,910
[laughter]

1809
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,600
This sound like to close the public

1810
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,920
hearing on this particular agenda item.

1811
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,800
Uh are there any other questions um or

1812
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,120
comments by council other than the ones

1813
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,320
that we've already stated?

1814
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,360
There appearing none. We're going to go through once again the five question

1815
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,840
format that we have to follow. At this

1816
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,400
time, I would entertain a motion that

1817
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,440
the uh application and the proposed

1818
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,440
subdivision would not endanger the

1819
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,719
public health or safety. So move second.

1820
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:34,880
>> Okay, we got a motion and second. All in

1821
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,280
favor of finding that the subdivision

1822
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,560
will not endanger [clears throat] the

1823
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,800
public health or safety, please signify

1824
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,640
by saying I. I.

1825
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,719
>> Any opposed?

1826
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:47,440
Next question before us and I will

1827
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,280
entertain a motion to this effect that

1828
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,760
the proposed subdivision will not injure

1829
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,000
the value of a joining or abuing

1830
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,400
property.

1831
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,920
>> So second.

1832
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,840
>> Okay, we got a motion and second. All in

1833
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,760
favor of a finding that this proposed

1834
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,159
subdivision would not injure the value

1835
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:04,159
of adjoining or abing property, please

1836
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,719
signify by saying I. I.

1837
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:08,800
>> Any opposed?

1838
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,120
Next uh question before us. Uh, I'll

1839
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,159
seek a motion and second uh on a finding

1840
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:16,239
that this proposed subdivision will be

1841
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,960
in harmony in with the area in which it

1842
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,960
will be located. So move.

1843
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,120
>> Got a motion. Second and second. Got a

1844
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,960
motion and second. All in favor of a

1845
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,360
finding that this proposed subdivision

1846
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,040
will be in harmony with the area in

1847
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,960
which it is located. Please signify by

1848
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:31,840
saying I.

1849
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,239
>> I. Any opposed?

1850
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:37,040
Next uh question before us is whether

1851
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,880
this proposed subdivision will be in

1852
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,040
conformity with the LE plan, Thorf fair

1853
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,640
plan, or another officially adopted um

1854
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,760
plan um by the town council. So

1855
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,080
>> got a motion. Got a second.

1856
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,480
>> Got a motion and second. All in favor of

1857
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,400
finding that this proposed subdivision

1858
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,320
will be in conformity [clears throat]

1859
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,560
plan, thorough affair plan or other plan

1860
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,239
officially adopted by town council,

1861
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,640
please signify by saying I. I.

1862
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,159
>> Any opposed?

1863
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:06,640
Lastly, that mo moves us to the open

1864
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,199
ultimate question. I will seek a motion

1865
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,679
and a second that town council approve

1866
01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:14,800
the uh major special use permit

1867
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,120
application as presented. Do I have a

1868
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,800
motion?

1869
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,440
>> Motion and a second. All in favor of

1870
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:23,760
council approving uh this major special

1871
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,000
use permit application, please signify

1872
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,679
by saying I. I.

1873
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:29,440
>> Any opposed?

1874
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,280
>> Okay. Thank you, gentlemen.

1875
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,590
>> Thank you very much.

1876
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:51,830
We actually

1877
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,080
» The next matter before us is a public

1878
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,440
hearing identified by

1879
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:01,430
case number MSU26-03.

1880
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This is an application from Ryan Bond

1881
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LLC requesting permission to construct a

1882
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,520
building to provide business incubator

1883
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,239
space for small businesses and outside

1884
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storage located at 114 and 116 Mexico

1885
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Road. The property is further identified

1886
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:26,630
as pin number 780500-34-3829.

1887
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And at this time, Dwayne, you're center

1888
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,640
stage again. Please come forward. Is

1889
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,400
that your report?

1890
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>> You still got to come in tomorrow.

1891
01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:37,600
>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no.

1892
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,440
>> This is uh this is uh good stuff. So, um

1893
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application before you today um I sat

1894
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,040
down with uh with one of the applicants

1895
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and trying to figure out what route to

1896
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go because this is fairly unique uh

1897
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,719
idea. Um so, basically uh we have 1.67

1898
01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:01,440
67 acres at 114 and 116 Mexico Road. Uh

1899
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the existing land use is is commercial

1900
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the zoning is commercial highway.

1901
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Existing land use is vacant property

1902
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,440
with existing uh building um and

1903
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,199
appeared to been commercial at some

1904
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:14,719
point. Um so going through the four

1905
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things again I won't bore everyone with

1906
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it. uh you know this one really hints on

1907
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,400
the promoting of economic development uh

1908
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and uh identified the goals and

1909
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,360
objectives and policies uh in place uh

1910
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that kind of mirror what this uh you

1911
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know use would be. Um pro promote and

1912
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:37,520
establish a broad range of new

1913
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,880
commercial uses in town. Um develop and

1914
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implement strategies to promote three

1915
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,520
generations of population growth. uh

1916
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,040
developed a strategy for expanding job

1917
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opportunities in healthcare, tourism and

1918
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vocational training sectors. Uh town

1919
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encouraged the location of business,

1920
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residential development, service

1921
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,760
providers that serve retirees while

1922
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,719
creating uh jobs for younger residences.

1923
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Uh the the town of Edington encourages

1924
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new commercial uses to locate in any

1925
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:05,199
commercial area uh within town. Uh the

1926
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town encourages entrepreneurship and the

1927
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opening of new locally owned businesses,

1928
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particularly retail establish

1929
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:15,120
establishments and uh restaurants. Um

1930
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property is uh in the ETJ um

1931
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but it's just outside of the town

1932
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municipal limits.

1933
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[laughter]

1934
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>> Uh the applica application for you is

1935
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requested to have a major space use

1936
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permit for a multi-use incubator space

1937
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uh for small businesses uh and with uh

1938
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some outside storage. Uh so what I did

1939
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is being uh kind of a unique use and not

1940
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,080
really defined within our UDO uh I went

1941
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with outside storage as needed a major

1942
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,760
space use permit um and then anything

1943
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else that kind of fall underneath that.

1944
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Um and uh the major space use permit

1945
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process requires applicants to specify

1946
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,080
the exact proposed use of land and

1947
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allows town council to place

1948
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restrictions on actual development. Uh

1949
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you'll see uh where I took excerpts out

1950
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of the UDO. Uh basically this is office

1951
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use not otherwise classified uh an

1952
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,600
outside bulk storage of non-hazardous

1953
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,640
material. Um the planning board met on

1954
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March 2nd and we unanimously recommended

1955
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,719
approval of legis permit uh with uh to

1956
01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:24,480
town council with staff recommended

1957
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conditions. Once again you have to

1958
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,440
answer those five questions. uh uh the

1959
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:30,719
proposed use is compatible with the

1960
01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:34,640
eastern future land use map uh where it

1961
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,239
shows it as being a commercial uh space.

1962
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So the uh applicable regulations from

1963
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:46,000
the UDO uh the following conditions were

1964
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,159
um suggested all details and

1965
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improvements shall be installed and

1966
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constructed according to UDO

1967
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requirements. uh all necessary traffic

1968
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improvements, utility installations and

1969
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,800
connections. Uh drainage uh storm water

1970
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detention improvements shall be

1971
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installed and associated fees by the

1972
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,719
developer and storm water drainage shall

1973
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meet uh any required NCDQ regulations.

1974
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Um and staff does find the proposed use

1975
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of conformity with the land use plan.

1976
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,640
>> Uh so that's kind of where it is now

1977
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with the staff.

1978
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Can that be county water town electric

1979
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and also have access to town sewage?

1980
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Correct.

1981
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>> Uh no. So it is just uh north of that.

1982
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It'll be uh we'll have to have future

1983
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conversations about any annexations that

1984
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,840
wish to happen for the extension of uh

1985
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,120
services. Um and Mexico Road is a DOT

1986
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,199
road. So uh if they want driveway

1987
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:42,640
permit, if they need driveway permits,

1988
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it would go through NC DOT.

1989
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uh if they want an extension of any type

1990
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:48,080
of utility services, then we would have

1991
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to look at a annexation of the property.

1992
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>> And what type of business is you right

1993
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now?

1994
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>> So, it's it's incubator space, and I'll

1995
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let the applicants kind of speak on what

1996
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,880
they're thinking uh with it, but uh it's

1997
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I believe it's up to six um five areas

1998
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where a small business can have a

1999
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startup. Um, and I'll I'll let them

2000
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answer that, but it's it's uh I guess if

2001
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uh someone wanted to do uh tent, I think

2002
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,080
was broad, then they can ran out of a

2003
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space to do tent while they um they're

2004
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,360
not having to spend money on a larger um

2005
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,360
unnecessary area. So, they would have a

2006
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place to do that.

2007
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>> Is that commercial now?

2008
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>> It is a commercial. Yes, sir.

2009
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» All right. Any other questions? All

2010
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right. At this time, we would um get a

2011
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,000
presentation from the owner's

2012
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representative. I think we've got Dr.

2013
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Brian Bun here.

2014
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» Thank you so much. Um name's Brian Bun.

2015
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Myself and Josh Ryenbark are kind of the

2016
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two owners of this LLC. Um and a lot of

2017
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,719
this came out of just um you know

2018
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brainstorming ideas and wanted to work

2019
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,920
together. Um you've been in Eden for

2020
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,719
about 12 years now. um of course work in

2021
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,000
the community as well as invest in the

2022
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,239
community. Um work with South Broad

2023
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,239
Investments have a building downtown. Um

2024
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:09,520
but they have a building as well as a

2025
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,199
couple rounds of properties in the area.

2026
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So um you this is my home and my my hope

2027
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:16,159
is to make it better. Um you know Josh

2028
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:18,000
same been here a lot longer than I have.

2029
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,480
Um you know several wash houses. He's uh

2030
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:23,199
you involved in in entrepreneurship um

2031
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:25,360
and likes to make nice stuff as well. So

2032
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,080
we came together this idea. Um the

2033
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,199
acreage that we purchased is um just shy

2034
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:34,000
of uh 1 and 3/4 acres um there on Mexico

2035
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,159
Road and in between was the the Dixie

2036
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Auto and the um there's a a garage there

2037
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,159
as well. Um you know with the goal of

2038
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:43,679
basically putting up a building um

2039
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:46,480
10,000 foot metal building um on the

2040
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,199
space uh potential for another one in

2041
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,120
the future, but you know uh we'll kind

2042
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,600
of see how this goes. as well as to have

2043
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,360
um on-site uh storage opportunities. Um

2044
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,760
part of this is you know incubator for

2045
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,280
us as well as incubator for whoever

2046
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,000
wants to you know um start a business.

2047
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,080
Um some of the ideas that kind of

2048
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,920
swirled around and that spoke to a

2049
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,000
gentleman who um fixes boats in his

2050
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,080
driveway. He said he loved to have 3,000

2051
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,600
you know square foot to figure out hey

2052
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,199
how can I do this? This is nowhere for

2053
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,360
that need to um you know folks that

2054
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,239
might want to u um a place to store an

2055
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:22,880
RV. There's no real good places to do

2056
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,120
that in Edington. Um folks that somebody

2057
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,440
doing a um a tenting business out of

2058
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:29,520
their uh garage that needs 2,000 square

2059
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,280
foot. Uh there's nowhere to do that in

2060
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,640
Edington. So we said, "Well, let's try

2061
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,719
to find a way to get that in Eden." Um

2062
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:36,480
so that's where this came out of the the

2063
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,719
building. um as it is right now is

2064
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:43,360
10,000 ft² um with 14T um garage doors

2065
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,800
as well as a door five doors um to be

2066
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,440
potentially divided up into up to five

2067
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:53,440
um 2,000 foot um um units as well as

2068
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:55,040
opportunities for using outdoor um

2069
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,560
space. There's a current building on the

2070
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,320
premises. It's about thousand square

2071
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,840
foot and um East Coast Site Works um

2072
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,679
which is the the business owner Josh

2073
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:05,199
Roden Mark is um is currently renting

2074
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:08,000
out that space. Um fixing it up for

2075
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,360
starters and then going to use that to

2076
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,719
help source some of their goods. So

2077
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:16,000
that's our goal and plan. Um

2078
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,480
>> what base Mexico road

2079
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:19,520
>> the the building?

2080
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:20,159
>> Yeah.

2081
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:22,719
>> So not exactly. Um the building's

2082
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:24,080
actually so there there's currently

2083
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,159
about thousand square foot building that

2084
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:28,400
is facing kind of perpendicular to the

2085
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,880
road. It's going to be behind that one.

2086
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,600
Um, so that's that's where we

2087
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,840
>> So that they can rent it out shortterm

2088
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,639
or long term, whatever y'all decide on

2089
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:39,520
or they will

2090
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,000
>> um, so I mean the

2091
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,000
I most likely it'll be long term because

2092
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,760
there will need to be, you know,

2093
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,920
infrastructure put in. Um, for instance,

2094
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,920
if they wanted 4,000 square foot, then

2095
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,040
there's going to be a wall that's going

2096
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,520
to come into that bay. Um, as well as

2097
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:54,960
whatever, you know, buildup needs to be

2098
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,600
done inside. Um

2099
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,679
so long term

2100
01:22:59,679 --> 01:23:01,440
>> it was mentioned pl board meeting about

2101
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,840
bathrooms that that is a requirement is

2102
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,199
that correct

2103
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:09,600
>> bathroom inside the building

2104
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,360
>> yeah most likely we'll have at least one

2105
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,159
per unit.

2106
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:13,440
>> Yeah they they'll have to meet the

2107
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,840
building codes requirements. So that

2108
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:20,629
would be required for bathrooms.

2109
01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:25,280
» Okay. Any more questions of that?

2110
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:30,790
Okay. Thank you, Dr. B.

2111
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,639
All right. I'd like to open the public

2112
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:36,560
hearing uh portion of this.

2113
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,960
Anybody here to speak on this particular

2114
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,560
application?

2115
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,360
>> I just have one question. Um,

2116
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,400
as we know, across from my home was

2117
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,239
built, it is someone who's supposed to

2118
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:53,199
have a a mobile auto repair and they're

2119
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,520
doing it all in their driveway, which

2120
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,719
leads to over trash and things around

2121
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:01,040
that. I wouldn't expect in a residential

2122
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,280
area. I know this is a commercial

2123
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:04,560
building, but [clears throat] they're

2124
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,400
going to have outdoor storage. So the

2125
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,719
question is, are they going anything

2126
01:24:08,719 --> 01:24:12,080
stored outside is it going to be

2127
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,040
usable? In other words, I my my concern

2128
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,880
is that the town winds up having a

2129
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,360
junkyard because somebody rents a space

2130
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,239
and puts three cars that will never run

2131
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:25,840
in there and then it slowly becomes a

2132
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,679
place to store. For 100 bucks, I can

2133
01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:30,800
store a junk car here, a junk car there.

2134
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,199
So, the outdoor space, are there going

2135
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:35,920
to be restrictions on what can be stored

2136
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,920
in that?

2137
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,199
>> Um, for us in particular, I I I don't

2138
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:44,320
prefer to have John. Um, and so for me

2139
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,000
to be able to keep tenants in these

2140
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:46,960
properties, it's going to have to be

2141
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,880
nice. Um, and our major goal is going to

2142
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,639
be or one of our goals is going to be to

2143
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:52,400
fence in everything with flat fence so

2144
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,159
that you can't see in. For instance, I'm

2145
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:55,600
going to charge them 100 bucks a month

2146
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,840
to char to park their RV. It needs to be

2147
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,760
secured, safe. Um, you know,

2148
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,920
if it's junk, it's got to go. Um, so

2149
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,280
that's not going to be part of what we

2150
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,080
have envisioned.

2151
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,199
>> So, whatever it's going to be stored,

2152
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:10,320
it's going to be usable in some form.

2153
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:11,679
>> Oh, correct.

2154
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:13,120
>> That that was my concern. I just didn't

2155
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,800
want because sometimes when you get

2156
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,080
these outdoor spaces, it goes from I'm

2157
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,000
going to just park my car here to all of

2158
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,360
a sudden you have

2159
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:22,639
>> junk everywhere.

2160
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:23,920
>> Yeah. It would be hard for us to make

2161
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,520
money if we had too much junk on the

2162
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,000
floor.

2163
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,080
>> I I thought so. Just want to put that on

2164
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:28,719
there.

2165
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:29,600
>> Thanks.

2166
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,639
>> Thank you.

2167
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:35,120
>> Okay. Any uh more comments from the

2168
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,159
public?

2169
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:39,040
>> All right. At this point, and I will

2170
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,800
order that the public comment section of

2171
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,360
the agenda item be closed. Uh any

2172
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,639
further questions or comments uh from uh

2173
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:48,719
town council before we deliberate on the

2174
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:51,600
questions that are before us.

2175
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,760
Okay, we've got this down pat by now. I

2176
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,360
hope do we have a a motion to the effect

2177
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,199
that a motion and a second that the

2178
01:25:59,199 --> 01:26:01,120
proposed use will not endanger the

2179
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,400
public health or safety.

2180
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,440
>> So move.

2181
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:05,199
>> Got a motion and a second. All in favor

2182
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:07,440
of a finding that the proposed use will

2183
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:09,040
not endanger the public health or

2184
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,120
safety. Please say goodbye by saying I.

2185
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:11,840
>> I.

2186
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,760
>> Any opposed?

2187
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,760
Next, I'll entertain a motion that this

2188
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,520
proposed use will not injure the value

2189
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,080
of a joining or a budding property.

2190
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:20,800
>> Second.

2191
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,239
>> Okay, we've got a motion and a second.

2192
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:24,800
All in favor of a finding that the

2193
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,880
proposed use would not endanger the

2194
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:28,719
value of adjoining or abundant property.

2195
01:26:28,719 --> 01:26:30,960
So, please signify by saying I.

2196
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:31,520
>> I.

2197
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,320
>> Any opposed? Next, we move forward to

2198
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,719
the uh question of whether this proposed

2199
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:38,320
use will be in harmony with the area in

2200
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,000
which it is located. I'll entertain a

2201
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,360
motion.

2202
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,320
>> Got a motion and a second. Um, all in

2203
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,400
favor of a finding that the proposed use

2204
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,000
will be in harmony with the area in

2205
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,760
which it is located, please signify by

2206
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,199
saying I. I

2207
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,199
>> any opposed?

2208
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:55,280
>> Fourth question. I'll entertain a motion

2209
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,960
that the proposed use will be in

2210
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,480
conformity with the land use plan

2211
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:00,880
thorough for fair plan or other plan

2212
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,040
officially adopted by town council.

2213
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:07,600
>> So move got a motion. Second.

2214
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,239
>> Okay. Got a motion and a second. Um, all

2215
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:12,800
in favor of a finding that this use will

2216
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,199
be in conformity with the land use plan,

2217
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,360
thoroughare plan, or other plan

2218
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,199
officially adopted by town council,

2219
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:20,960
please signify by saying I.

2220
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:21,760
>> I.

2221
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,360
>> Okay. The ultimate question. I'll

2222
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,440
entertain a motion that we approve the

2223
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,560
major special use permit application as

2224
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,159
presented.

2225
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:32,159
>> Okay, we got a motion and a second. All

2226
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,719
in favor of town council approving the

2227
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:36,400
major special use [clears throat] permit

2228
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,719
application as presented, please signify

2229
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:40,400
by I

2230
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,920
>> Any oppose? Okay. Thank you, Dr. Bond.

2231
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,360
Appreciate it. Good luck.

2232
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,719
>> Okay. Next, uh the item that uh we need

2233
01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:54,080
to discuss uh requires us to go go into

2234
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,000
close session per North Carolina General

2235
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,990
Statute 143-318-11

2236
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,840
A4. Uh the purpose of the close to uh

2237
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,760
session is to discuss matters relating

2238
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,000
to the location or expansion of

2239
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,000
industries or other businesses in the

2240
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,400
area served by this public body

2241
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,080
including an agreement on a tentative

2242
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,239
list of economic development incentives

2243
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:18,880
that might be offered by the public body

2244
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,239
in u its negotiations. Uh I would

2245
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,480
entertain a motion that we go into close

2246
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:25,840
session.

2247
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,679
>> We got a motion and we got a second. All

2248
01:28:27,679 --> 01:28:29,760
in favor of this body entering into

2249
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,679
close session for the purposes uh so set

2250
01:28:33,679 --> 01:28:36,400
forth, please syndicate by saying I. I.

2251
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:37,679
>> Any opposed?

2252
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:39,199
>> Thank you ladies and gentlemen for being

2253
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:41,199
here. We've got to go into close

2254
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:43,520
session.

2255
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,520
Listen.