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Just administrator.

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Can I make a motion where we have to add
it? If if um

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» just to clear that up,

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» if all board members are
believe this topic is done or there's

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more to discuss

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hearing none, I will the motion.
>> I'd like to make a motion that we have

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official measurement from SC

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on the

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survey. Thank you.

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Uh to finally put that matter to rest as
to where the measurement starts, where

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the measurement ends.
Is there a gap between the right way and

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the property line?

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Is that how you like it?
Seconded or is it more appropriate to be

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very specific and ask for the 37 and 12t
of right away be displayed on the

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survey?
I'd like them to outline the right way

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and complete I don't know 37.5

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the entire
exact

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to the
to the entire way the

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» entire roadway
if there's any gap between the rightway

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the property

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The motion has been has been entered is
for an official measurement to be placed

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on the survey to direct the entire

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to display the entire right of way. And
if there is any gap between the property

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and the right way. Is that correct?

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» Is the motion second?
Motion has been seconded. The board will

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now move into discussion.

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Clear any ambiguity gray area.

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Any

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additional comments from any
>> I have one additional comment but not

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about that. I'd like to add
clarification on is this on the side or

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is this in the front yard because we're
reading um

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from planning that it's in the sideyard
but they're saying it's but some are

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saying it's in the front yard. So we
need clarification and the zoning

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ordinance the picture is not clear.
>> So this sounds like you're forming a

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second motion.
>> Let's focus on the first motion,

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an official measurement on the survey to
to depict the entire right of way and if

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there is any gap between property and
the right of way

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have no additional comments in the
discussion phase of the motion. All

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those in favor of the motion signify by
saying I. I. All those opposed signify

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by saying.
The motion passes unanimously

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and board member Robinson if you'd like
to enter that second motion to do that.

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» Yes. So the question is what is the
definition of the sidewalk? Where where

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does it fall? If you look at 69 and 70
um it was only the picture is not clear

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and then also we got the interpretation
clearly said um that

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because the fence is contained within
the side yard. It can be higher than 4

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ft was the interpretation that we got on
September the 26.

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So I think that's where we have to
interpret because the zone importance

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does not clarify
when those two overlap when the sideyard

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the front yard overlap
which one takes precedence and I think

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that's what we have to come up with an
interpretation with and then we can make

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a a recommendation
to the plan

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commission
um to say hey let's clear this.

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» Yeah it's definitely going to have to be
clear because the Make sure the side lot

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line is all the way down the side from
the back the front is only across the

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front.
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pending because
normally when you have a house that's

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sitting right say the house is sitt
public form is is closed. So this is

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» clearly in the book that says the side
lot line is all the way down from the

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back corner to the front door
>> there. I think the way I would interpret

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that is the sideyard is shade area.
You see the shade,

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» but the shade goes the it's also in the
if you look to the left of that, see the

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picture on page 69. If you look to the
left of that, the the sideyard set back

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is still in that liner shade.
>> There is overlap between the sideyard

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and the front yard and the rear yard. So
you will have the corners basically of

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that lot that's shown on face page 69.
There is overlap between the front front

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yard and the side yard on the two front
corners as well as overlap on the side

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yard and the rear yard and the two back
corners um of that example. So that's

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where the issue is coming up as far as
that you you know identify.

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» Yeah, I mean that's just me. It's been
confusing. It's very hard to

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um clearly defined according to the the
ordinance,

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» but there's no indication
of any side yard

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from the front lot line
to the 30 foot setback line.

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So between the front lot line
and the 30 foot setback line

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that is clearly front yard. No question.

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Now the other area where that little
sideyard

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um
language appears in the sketch. Mhm.

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» is between
the front yard setback

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which you see the buildable area
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house.

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So there's a question as to whether the
see this house is not built quite up to

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the front setback line. It's back
further than the front setback line.

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So there may be some question about the
area between

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the 30 foot front setback and where the
actual porch front porch

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starts and ends.
But from the front lot line

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to the 30oot set line there is no
question

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but that it is front yard.
I would also point you to section 72A

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and it says the required front side and
rear yards for individual lots shall be

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measured inward toward the center of the
sid lot from all points along the

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respective front side and rear property
lines of the lot or road rightway. So

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that clearly says that the the setbacks
are measured inward from all property

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lines from all directions which again
shows that overlap within those corners

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and in regards to the side
fences and walls may extend to the

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property line. So we're not talking
about moving the fence 30 ft into the

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property
>> towards the house. I'm talking about

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just what piece of the fence needs to be
reduced

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» to 4T to be in line with the correct

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that you have. It does not show

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doesn't show where the house is located
in the lot. Would you agree with that?

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And it doesn't show where the 30 ft from
the front

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lot line

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because that line that goes inward
toward the middle of the lot I think is

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indicating a fence not a measurement

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as a line with the circles.
>> Not sure what that is because the fence

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doesn't go in.
It's just spray props according to the

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picture.
>> What he's saying is when this was made,

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this isn't made based off of what's
there now. It's made based on

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» it.

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The answer was a team was out there.
But it doesn't display the

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» No, it doesn't display the bill. It
doesn't display the house or where the

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We think that that three lines is
supposed to indicate maybe where the

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fence ends, but not sure.
>> There's a the fence continues towards

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the house.
>> Actually, it says chain leaf.

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But if you look at the plat that was
done of the lot, starting at the front

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line, which is on Cherry Lane,

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30 ft
backward from that

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front lot
is front yard according to that sketch

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in 7.2.
But it doesn't show on this map exactly

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where that is.
So we take a measure from the point.

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» We made a motion to add the right away.
Would you like to make a motion to

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consider adding the house and the 30ft
set measurement on the survey?

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If you look at the picture, they don't
match.

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» Is the board interested in the motion to
do that?

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» Yes.

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I make a motion
to have the the

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the house and the fence. Well, special
measure from the setback.

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Motion has been made to add the house
and the setback measurement.

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to the survey. Is the motion second?
>> Second.

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» Discussion of the motion.

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Any any additional comments?

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Hearing none. All those in favor of
adding the house and the setback

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measurement to the surveys, please
signify by saying I.

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» I. Those signify by saying name.

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» That's not allowed.
>> You got to make a decision.

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» So the motion does pass unanimously.
Correct.

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» Yes. Correct.
>> Okay.

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Now we are still in the board
discussion. So we can we can consider

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other other items if you'd like.

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Do we want to discuss uh maybe coming up
with some clarifying

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uh
the verdage so we can avoid this in the

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future that we can provide to the zoning
uh commission.

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» You're referring to recommending updates
to the zoning ordinance.

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» Yes.
>> Okay. Uh we can do that. I just want to

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focus right now on getting the fence
moved

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» closed and then we can then we can
consider that as well in this board

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discussion. Um
does anyone want to make any other

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decision on the fence without seeing
these updates to the survey or prefer to

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wait for the survey?
We need to talk about anything about

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reducing the height of defense we can
discuss anything else about the fence.

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» I don't think we can move any further
except information and We have to define

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how we look at front versus side. We
discussed that.

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» Yes.
>> And how we want to define that

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diagram here.
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» so front rear, this is just a a basic
recreation of what's in there. So, it

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really comes down to where we want what
we want to do with these gray areas,

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particularly in front in this situation.
So how do we want to interpret that?

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» So is the center is center is the center
of the house.

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» This is the buildable area.

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» So I can tell you my interpretation
is if it's on the side and it goes all

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the way to the front, it's part of the
side. That's my interpretation

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based on the line you drew to the left
extending extending to the north.

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right there. That's why you said that
was the side based on that line there.

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» So this is just outline the gray areas
or whatever. So that's the front. So

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straight both sides I'd say it goes up.
It's part of the sign. I would consider

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this being the front.
>> I understand that difference.

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» But I'm trying to get to the to the to
the reasoning.

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» Is it?
>> Yes. Because it's the that's the side

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lot line.
>> Yes.

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» The state is is listed as a side lot.
>> Yes.

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» Yeah.
>> Because it's the side lot line

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» because in absence of clarifying
guidance I go with the simplest

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explanation the most forward
explanation. It's part of the side.

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Therefore it's the side. Now later on I
said after this we get this resolve we

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can always clarify that and say what
precedence over what

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but as of right now that's that's
interpretation

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Is that interpretation in line with how
the orders are written now

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based on the pictures?

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» I think it's okay

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because we could say, oh, we think they
put the dots on there and we think this

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gray area is this, but
There's nothing stating this is what X

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is.

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72A
identifies the language of how those are

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measured.
The

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illustration shows something a little
bit different. Typically

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illustrations are not the law. they are
illustrative in nature and therefore if

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there's typically
um an issue between or ambiguity between

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the language and an illustration the
actual language is what supersedes the

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illustration.
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if you
however you feel I think you should

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should focus more on the language and
then we can modify this picture or other

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to be more in line with what your the
language you want to have if that makes

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sense.

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And would it would it be best to work on
that

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before the next meeting and come with
everybody come with ideas and

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suggestions at the next meeting
>> for what we interpret to be a sign?

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» Yes.
Do you that you want that fine tonight.

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» Well, if if the other board members need
time and I'm okay with that.

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» I'm just giving you what what I That's
all.

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» But if you interpret it that way, you
don't need the measurements.

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» Well, that's just my interpretation.
>> The whole front yard is the side yard.

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It doesn't matter

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where starts and ends

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for where the house is.

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My opinion is
the the question is is

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where to me I I think that it's on the
sideyard as well. But where should it

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start? Should it start 30 ft back? I
don't think it does.

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You know, if they if they come in to say
ft is that encroaching on the front yard

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if it goes past that set back that goes
if it's closer than that set back of the

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require. So if it you know if you put a
fence if you put a fence here that is

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your that is your side fence. But if you
come too close, if you don't if you go

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past that 30 ft from right away, then
you've

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brought too close and you're approaching
on the front

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because you can build you could have a
acre lot and you can build your house,

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the very back of your lot and still have
your setback and there's no way that

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that you would put a, you know, that you
would put your fish just around your

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little tiny backyard.
To me, a front fence would be going

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across the front of your house.

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» So, the issue that you that you that
you're discussing is a fence parallel to

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Cherry Lane.

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» You got the street and you got the
street and you got fence.

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» You look at his drawing.
>> Look at his drawing.

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» Yes.
>> Across. If you see where he's got the F

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for front.
>> Yes. If you put a fence across there,

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that's the front. That's a front fence.
>> So, your definition, my definition are

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align.
>> But yeah, but you can't but you can't

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build that fence, that side fence closer
than 30 ft from the property line.

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That's a setback.
>> You're talking about if we push too far

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this way. Yes.
>> So, the only question I believe we're

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trying to address right now is what is
front versus side.

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the encroachment thing. I think we've
already tabled

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» to me. Anything that goes along the side
of your property is your side.

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» To me, that's how it
>> So, as the fences now,

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» you see that as being a side yard fence?
>> With its height the way it is,

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» you see that as a side.
>> I'm not I'm just make sure that it's

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clear.
>> That is That's how I see it. is a

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sideyard fence and you know just does is
it too

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is it too close to the property to the
front property line

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» I feel like because of the setback
>> setback yeah because the setback is 30

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ft is that right
>> that's in addition to the right way

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» so so we're not trying to solve this
without all the information

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think I can make a motion.
>> Yes, absolutely.

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» Make a motion that hey, we will all come
back at the next meeting with our

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individual interpretation of the front
versus side

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and then we'll be able to take a vote on
it then and we'll have all of the

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information theoretically uh necessary
to make all the decisions at once.

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Anything else that we need?

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Jamie needs to know when she has to call
the surveyor and spend $500 more dollars

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getting him out there to draw the house
and the

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line that's 30 ft from the property line
because it's, you know, it's going to

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cost money to do that project.
So what she doing?

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» Can you give clarification?
Is this the fence? Is this indicating

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the fence? And is that a measurement?
I already know there.

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I'll send an email tomorrow and see if
he can give me the clarification

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of what
>> that perpendicular line.

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I can't even.
And then how back how far back the

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house? No, just how how far back is the
fence? Is this a fence? And what's the

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measurement between the right way
or the property line and the fence? I

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think we have the property line fence
for setback

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» what we asked for.
>> I think the property line

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» we asked for was not representative of
that. So that's

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an official measurement just

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an official measurement on the survey to
depict the entire right away and if

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there is any gap between the property
and the right

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that's privacy and it goes down to that
spot

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And then and then it says here that that
T is that foam box and the power pole.

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And then that little line right here, it
shows that that is 9.4t

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of fence that extends into the rideway.
So according to the survey,

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» that was the surveyor
because I heally

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about that notation and I asked him if
he could clarify how far he

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question on the 14th said it was not in
the right way.

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» Yep.
>> Yeah. But they were wrong. They didn't

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measure.
>> Oh, they didn't measure it.

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» Oh, no.

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» The surveyor went out and found the iron
pin that is on the corner of the lot

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» and the fence extended 9.4t ft beyond
the iron pent. That is a measure on the

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ground.
>> My initial question to do was here is

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your telephone pole. Does that not
represent where your rideway line is?

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And they said typically, but it differs
from place to place.

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» And the DK guy said that he runs by.

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» Okay. So now

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» now since we did not wait for the
Additional motion that was made to be

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seconded. We've now moved completely
away from what was originally decided.

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It was originally decided
that the fence did not extend

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onto
the right of weight. To confirm that, we

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asked for the measurement of this rider
weight to be depicted on the survey.

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So, do all we need to ask is for the 37
1/2 ft be depicted on the survey.

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» So, you can send it out there. Well,
they may not have to go out there. They

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may already know.
See, there's they didn't put any

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measurements on these three lines. And
that's that's the problem.

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» Yeah. Without going out there, he could
indicate whether that front property

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line is the edge of the bottom.
>> He can add that to the flat

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» probably inexpensively.
>> Here's here's the issue. The u

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the fence does give most of the
Yeah.

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» Okay. So, clarify for me what I'm
asking. Um,

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Robert Blackie, who's a surveyor,
clarification on what those three lines

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mean? Three drops on that line means
what's the measurement? You want to know

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where the 37 ft go?
>> It would be 37 and 12 ft on each side

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» depicted on each side onto on the survey
>> from the center line.

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And I think what we're going to get is
that the 30 based on the dotted line at

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the top that's the other 37 and 1/2 ft
of the right

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equal down between the rightway and the
south side.

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So in that case the the fence can does
extend property line.

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So looking at that, does the board want
to make a ruling on the a decision on

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the fence extending beyond the property
line or does the board wish to wait the

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motions that have already been
submitted?

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» I don't think it extends past the
property line. I think it the question

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is it doesn't extend in the property
line. It's the property line.

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» It extends past the property line
whether it's in the waterway

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» or in a no man's land or what wherever
it is. It does extend pass

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you would like to. Okay. So, we'll leave
the motions

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as as they stood in the decisions that
were made.

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We're looking for an official
measurement on the survey to depict the

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entire ride away and if there is any gap
between the property and the rightway

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that we entered another motion made a
decision on adding the house and the

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setback measurement
to the survey.

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So those will those will continue.
Now if we were entertaining a third

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motion and that motion with board
members return to our next meeting with

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interpretations of the front versus the
side.

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» Yes. Is the motion second?
Motion's been seconded. We enter the

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discussion phase of motion. Are there
any other thoughts?

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All those in favor of board members
returning to the next meeting with

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interpretations of the front versus
sideyard signify by saying I. I. Those

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opposed signify by saying nay.
The motion passes unanimously.

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Are there any other additional comments
for the board discussion?

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I do have a question.
>> Yes.

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» Was the appellent
notified?

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» Um yes. Um the sign was put out by
fence. It was also put on Facebook and

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our website and he called me this this
morning and asked him what time the

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meeting was. So he is well aware.
>> The sign for three weeks. I think

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» when we set another meeting, I think you
need to mail him a notice of meeting and

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make sure that he
is aware of the time and place of the

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meeting.
I just noticed that the is not here

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tonight.

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» He showed up late. He came in late.
But he did call me this morning and I

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did clarify what was on

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mail.

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» You have to take away that you didn't
tell me when the meeting

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not heard any additional discussions.
We've had the board motions during the

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board discussions.

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The stated final decision and the
findings of effect have been presented

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in the review of the motions.
Catch them all.

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The board will consider a motion to
adjourn.

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» I will make a motion to this meeting.
Motion to made second.

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All those in favor of journ say I.
All those in signify by saying nay.

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Leading is

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good everybody. You guys

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» they're still there on both sides of the
fence.

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» They're still there. Before the metal
leaf, do you want to set up the

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potentially walk?
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.