1 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Hi. >> Okay. Greetings everybody. It's 6 2 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:39,720 o'clock. We can start our meeting. Everybody signed in here and we have um 3 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:39,720 two people on Zoom. 4 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:49,920 Okay. First order of business uh is to appre 5 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:52,879 approve the previous minutes of 7:15. I read through them. I don't have any 6 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,760 comments. Deborah. >> Nope. 7 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,840 » Um I'll make a motion to approve them as written. 8 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 » I'll second that. >> Second. Okay. All in favor? 9 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,400 » I >> I Okay. 10 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Uh are there any additions or deletions to today's meeting? 11 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:14,080 » Hearing none. We'll say one. Right. >> I changed. 12 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:19,599 » Oh, you changed. Yeah, I added it. Yeah, >> the never ending agenda. 13 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:24,879 » Um, so yes, we uh we don't have any uh changes. And does everybody have any 14 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:30,000 conflicts of interest for today's agenda items? I do not. 15 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:35,360 » Okay. >> And there are none. 16 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:41,280 » Okay, great. Um, this is going to go fast because our first item, um, Tasha 17 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Wallace is not available tonight. She's feeling ill. So, we're going to push her 18 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:50,159 to next month's meeting and she's going to give us just an update on LCPC, what 19 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:56,000 they're doing, and what they could do for us. So, we're we're going to skip 20 00:03:52,720 --> 00:04:01,360 that and we're going to jump right to the dog complaint that we've received. 21 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Um, I'll just go through a little bit. Um, 22 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:11,920 you know, for those who aren't aware there, we have a we had a complaint come 23 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:18,160 in regarding a dog that was barking uh excessively 24 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:24,960 um in all hours of the night allegedly and our uh animal control officer went 25 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:32,560 out. He gave us a report um basically he contacted the dog owner. 26 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Uh they denied that uh it was their dog and uh since then we have received uh 27 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:46,960 two emails from neighbors that uh also state that they did not hear any dog 28 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:51,199 barking. Uh do we have the complaint in here? Okay. Uh would you like to give us 29 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,040 a little history? >> Sure. I've um been on that road for 30 00:04:53,520 --> 00:05:02,960 about five years now. >> Okay. the past um three years um I've 31 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:09,440 had dogs um barking um at all hours. I mean 4:45 in the morning, 12:09 at 32 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:12,880 night, 5:50 in the morning, 5:35 in the morning. I don't have air conditioning, 33 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:18,880 so anybody that has air conditioning might not hear them. It's short, sharp 34 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:23,360 um sparks and it's almost like an alarm going off and a couple times it's on 35 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:26,960 like a Saturday morning and I mean the 4:45 on a Saturday morning when you have 36 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:32,479 company and everybody in the whole house is up is totally unacceptable. I mean I 37 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:38,080 think towns usually have ordinances of sometimes that you know 7 to 10 kind of 38 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:45,039 um you know I mean 10 to 7 in the morning are quiet hours normally. Um I 39 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:49,840 mean you know five uh 650. I mean, I wouldn't be complaining, but I mean, I 40 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:55,199 had my windows open and it's just been disruptive for a couple years. 41 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,280 And a lot of people have dogs on that road and I don't hear anything at that 42 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:03,120 time of the morning. >> You're Gail, but uh could you just 43 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,840 identify yourself so we have for record? >> Yeah. 44 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:13,039 » Y >> Thank you. Uh we also have um the dog 45 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:17,039 owners here represented by Samantha. I don't know who wants to speak but uh 46 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,400 maybe you can give us a little bit and then I'll go into where we need to go 47 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:27,120 from here. >> So um I have two dogs um two labs and we 48 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:32,479 are two houses apart so we don't live next door to each other. Um my dogs 49 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:38,160 sleep in front of us. I have two young kids so they're also in bed with the 50 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:42,960 kids. My kids actually sleep till 7 or 8. Even this morning, I had to like wake 51 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:47,520 them up. My kids don't get my dogs don't get up until we get up in the morning. 52 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:54,960 Um, definitely not up at 4 in the morning with my kids or my dogs. Um, 53 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:59,199 occasionally I let them out around 11, maybe 12 if they have to go to the 54 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,360 bathroom, but it's no more than five minutes and then they're back inside. 55 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:08,479 just enough time for me to pee and them to pee and they go back to bed. Um, I 56 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:13,759 know there's a, as she said, there's a lot of dogs on our road. I actually took 57 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:17,599 a v video on Sunday of someone's dogs barking in the distance that were not 58 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,280 mine with a video of my dogs and I don't mind presenting that. 59 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,759 » Okay. >> Um, as there is other dogs in the 60 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,960 neighborhood, not just mine. >> If you want to hear it, you guys can 61 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,840 hear a dog howling. Well, I think the next Well, we'll get to the next step 62 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,520 because I don't think we're going to resolve it tonight, but 63 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:35,840 » So, are you Samantha? I am Samantha. >> Just wanted to clarify that for the 64 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:41,120 minute. >> Yeah. And um 65 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:44,560 » and my kids like need to sleep too. So, if they're going to like not going to 66 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:49,599 let my dogs be working and also I don't want to be up for h like more than five 67 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:57,599 minutes at night letting them in and out if I have to. Um so, definitely I am not 68 00:07:53,759 --> 00:08:03,120 a night person. I work all day long. So, um, and then I come home, they're 69 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,879 outside, they bark if someone's walking by, they bark if there's a bear in the 70 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,039 property, they bark if there's a deer, which is not a very, you know, not like 71 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,560 it happens every day. >> Okay. 72 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:18,560 » Well, for the record, both uh parties were notified on August 5th by the town 73 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:25,440 to to appear at tonight's meeting. We we do appreciate you coming tonight. Um 74 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:30,240 there there is a a dog ordinance in the town that's available online, but I'll 75 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:35,039 just kind of hit the highlights of what we're talking about tonight. And section 76 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:40,479 4 talks about disturbances and nuisances. Um no person shall keep or 77 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:46,160 harbor a domestic pet which disrupts the quiet comfort and response of others by 78 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:52,399 frequent habitual or persistent barking or howling. So, that's kind of the um 79 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:58,080 thing that we're talking about here. Um there are penalties. Um if if found uh 80 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:04,560 that it's a problem, there's a the first offense is a warning. The second offense 81 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:09,200 is uh a $50 fine or empoundment. And the third uh which hopefully we never get to 82 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:15,839 is empoundment or $100. In addition, there's other fees. So, um how do we 83 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:21,440 resolve this? Well, the select board 84 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:25,839 um is the enforcer of local ordinances. Um we can issue formal warnings, impose 85 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:30,720 civil fines, uh authorize an animal control officer 86 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:36,160 to seize or impound the dog if it violates a noise ordinance. So hopefully 87 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:41,760 we don't get there. Um and most importantly, we can hold hearings uh and 88 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:45,200 issue orders. So, we have received a written complaint which kind of follows 89 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,320 everything that we're supposed to have. You gave the times, you gave all the 90 00:09:46,959 --> 00:09:54,959 information. So, that's good. So, we don't have to go back in time. So, the 91 00:09:51,519 --> 00:10:01,279 next step would be to hold a hearing uh and order the owners to take remedial 92 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:09,040 action if necessary. Uh so, we need to convene a meeting and 93 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:14,720 we could set a time and date for that. It'll be a public meeting. It won't be 94 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:19,440 in this format. It'll just be for uh for that issue. So, if if you guys want to 95 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,480 give us a time and we can see if we can work out an evening or whenever works 96 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:28,160 for everybody. Um then you can present your case and the select board will make 97 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:34,640 a decision um of what to do. 98 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,880 So, with that being said, um I think that's the next step because I don't 99 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:41,839 think it's going to get resolved tonight. 100 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:47,600 Correct. Um I mean that it doesn't sound like it. So, it sounds 101 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:50,320 » even a dispute as to if it's your dog, right? I don't like 102 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,240 » it's definitely their dog, >> right? So, again, we're not 103 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,399 » that's during the day. That's the question that's in contention, 104 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:03,200 » right? They let the dogs out even during the day. It's a sharp bark a couple 105 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:07,440 times. They do pull them in, but it's the same dog that's barking at night. I 106 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,720 mean, I have no issues with a dog barking during the day. I mean, usually 107 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:15,600 after 15 minutes, the dog would probably be in disgust. Wouldn't want to leave it 108 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:19,760 out anyhow. Um, but it it's definitely their dogs and at night. I mean, I've 109 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:24,560 had company, family, all been woken up. Um, I believe sometimes people come in 110 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:28,640 late at her home and that's where the times come in. And some of these are 111 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,920 actually before school was even out and the kids 112 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,680 were even there. So, I can um I mean I can start taping if necessary, but I'm 113 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,880 not all the time to >> So, at this point, we need to set that 114 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,360 meeting date, correct? >> For the interested parties and concerned 115 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,720 parties to come forward and meet with the select board, right? And have it's 116 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,240 really a hearing. It's a hearing. >> It'll be a hearing uh in this room, but 117 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,240 it's just going to be us. >> Just us. 118 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,880 » It is a public meeting if somebody wants to show up, but I don't know if anybody 119 00:11:55,839 --> 00:12:01,920 will. And if you have witnesses, uh, we suggest that you bring them along. 120 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,560 » Okay. Recordings. >> Sure. 121 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:12,760 » So, heard this right. I'm out hell and at the moon. I can be fine 100 bucks. 122 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,760 » Yeah. You got to stop at 123 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,639 » only if your name is >> Jack. 124 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:23,680 The ordinance. It's an ordinance. >> It's it's it's a noise ordinance and um 125 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:29,360 if it's a violation, we need to resolve it. So, 126 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:33,440 um it's just this this meeting is to set up um the hearing 127 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,639 » a hearing, right? >> And uh if you let us know what days 128 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,000 you're available, we could do it next week. We could do it the following week 129 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,720 whenever uh you're good. 130 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,639 It's a meeting that'll have to be warned because all three select board members 131 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:53,040 will be here, >> right? We'll have to be here. So, is 132 00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:57,920 evening best for you folks, for the parties involved? Is evening best? 133 00:12:55,519 --> 00:13:03,120 » Yes, but I am not available the 18th through the 20th. 134 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:07,279 » Okay, good to know. Thank you. >> So, at least the 17th, the 19th, the 135 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,160 21st. >> I'm not. 136 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,839 » Okay. >> Well, let us know when you're 137 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:19,040 We're pretty flexible. >> I'm not available with 17 at all. 138 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:21,839 » Okay. Do we want to just try to do this by email? 139 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,079 » I don't think we're going to be able to do it by email because we have a lot of 140 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,480 information already and it calls for a hearing 141 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,760 » through and figure out the date. The date 142 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:34,240 » Oh, the date. Well, >> the date I think we need to determine 143 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:37,519 the date right now. If that would be my hope. 144 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,560 » I mean, if the week of the 17th doesn't work, we can move it to 145 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,000 » What about like September 3rd or something right before Labor Day? 146 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,399 » I'll be in Utah. Okay. Well, >> let's do it in Utah. 147 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,200 the next couple weeks. I mean, so >> so you're not available the next couple 148 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:55,200 weeks. Okay. >> Okay. 149 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:59,120 » Um, so so we're looking at the week of the 7th 150 00:13:57,839 --> 00:14:03,760 possibly or >> that's after Labor Day. Yeah, 151 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:07,199 » the week of the 7th. Um, we have a select board meeting on the 9th. We 152 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:10,240 could do it before then if that works. Like 5:00 on the 9th. 153 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,600 » You're going to be out of state from >> Oh, on the 9th to the 9th. 154 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:19,320 » It'll fly back until the 9th. >> Okay. Um the 10th, September 10th. 155 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:29,680 » Um >> you know, can we just 156 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:33,360 » Okay. Um the 11th, maybe it's a Friday or the following week, the week of the 157 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:38,639 14th. >> Not the whole month of September. 158 00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:44,720 » Well, you can appear by Zoom if that works for you. We don't do Zoom. Okay. 159 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,639 Um, >> I guess 160 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:51,839 we do anything like next week or something or early next week like Monday 161 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,880 or Tuesday or something. >> So the 17th or 18th? 162 00:14:53,760 --> 00:15:01,440 » 17th. >> I can't do an evening the 17th at 5:00. 163 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:07,279 I'm I'm I have another meeting but the 18th is we have engagements 18. 164 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,279 » Yeah. >> Three people waiting. That's it. 165 00:15:09,839 --> 00:15:14,959 » You know, it's hard because we're all dealing with the end of the summer. 166 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:18,320 Family is still coming. People are traveling. You know, it's it's 167 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,040 challenging. That's all I'm acknowledging. 168 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:25,040 » Well, you guys work at a date. I'm pretty much available. 169 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:29,440 » Well, I don't want to do that. I want us to come up with a date that we can all 170 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:34,000 agree to right now because it's very difficult to try to do it over email or 171 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:38,519 in any other way. >> 18th. Can it be a weekend? 172 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,839 I'm not available the 18th. >> The 18th is my birthday. I would prefer 173 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:49,399 not to for that. 174 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,399 » So any other day would be great. 175 00:15:55,199 --> 00:16:03,120 » I could be available for an hour meeting on the 19th. 176 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:08,160 » The 19th of August, >> Wednesday. I work out of state and I 177 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,759 don't I'm not here that much. Um but when I am here I need to sleep and I 178 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:16,320 can't have dogs waking me up but I am not here 179 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:21,519 that day. >> 19th. 180 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,839 Okay. Well, why don't we ask when when are you available? 181 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,680 » She's going away. I forgot the dates again. What did she just say? 182 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,680 » The 1st of the 9th. Other than that, I'd really like not to be here on my 183 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:36,800 birthday. >> Oh, you should not do that. Everything 184 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:40,160 else, I'll make it work. >> Well, bring your cake. 185 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:44,800 » So, what does the 23rd >> annual thing? No, 186 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,800 » you don't want that. >> Friday, 187 00:16:47,839 --> 00:16:56,560 » the 20th 47. 188 00:16:53,120 --> 00:17:02,639 » Well, yeah. evening because there is an easy agent earlier three block that some 189 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,360 of us are involved in or if civil authority 190 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:15,199 is the 20th possible for people's birthday but I will make it work. It 191 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:19,039 just takes you two sons of >> Is that your birthday? My birthday is 192 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,559 the 18th and my six-year-old spring seven is on the 20th. And so I've 193 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:26,240 scheduled those three days to do something with her, but I will make the 194 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:28,400 19th work. I really prefer not to be here. 195 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,480 » And the mornings don't work. It has to be in the evening. 196 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,559 » Oh, I could I'll make any other day work timewise. I'll just move my clients 197 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:40,720 around. Um, >> is there anything in the morning that we 198 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:44,480 could do like like next Monday or Tuesday? 199 00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:48,080 » I'm available. >> The 17th or 18th? Yeah. 200 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:52,240 » Yeah. I'm available in the morning to zoom in. 201 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:55,120 » First thing you wanted to do 8:00 or 8:30 202 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,600 » 8:00 Monday 17th would work. >> Yeah. 8:00. 203 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,679 » Is that okay for you? >> Do that. 204 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,200 » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> The 17th. 205 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:08,400 » I'd have to move patients around. Um >> the 17th at 8 a.m. Is that possible? 206 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,679 » Just checking. No, >> she has patient schedu. 207 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:15,760 » I have patients scheduled and I just wander scheduled and that's the only day 208 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:24,440 she can do. Right. What what time would there not be a on the 17th? Is there any 209 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:24,440 time that works anytime in the morning? 210 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:27,760 » 9:45 or 211 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,640 » 10:00 >> or 10 o'clock? 212 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:38,200 » Maybe. >> All right. Well, we we can do it. 213 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:38,200 » Hold on. Hold on. Back to 10:00. 214 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 » If Trevor can't make it, that's fine. >> That's fine. It'll be two of us. 215 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,919 » Okay. >> It's a majority. 216 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:45,520 » No. or 8:00. >> 10:00 217 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:53,360 » Stop shorty. >> Okay. So, what time on the 17th? 218 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:57,039 » Did we agree on a time for the 17th? >> 10:00. 219 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:02,960 » 10:00. Is that possible? >> Works. I'll make it work. 220 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:08,400 » You can without making it impossible. I don't want to make things impossible 221 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:11,120 for people. So, >> okay. 10:00 a.m. 222 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,480 » the 17th. >> On the 17th. And if if any of your 223 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:21,679 witnesses aren't available, they can zoom in or if we have a couple emails. I 224 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:28,960 mean, that's fine, too. We can bring you can just enter them. I This isn't a 225 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:33,840 courtroom, but we'll do the best we can. >> Okay. Does that work? Okay, then. Thank 226 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:38,160 you both for coming and uh hopefully we'll resolve this on the 17th 227 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,559 » at 10:00 a.m. >> Are we allowed to Am I allowed to get 228 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:46,320 the dates and times ahead of time? >> Yes. 229 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:48,400 » I I will send it to you. >> Sometimes. 230 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:52,799 » Oh, it's in the package. >> I think it's in the material. 231 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:56,240 » Those in my house with my dogs. I'm not ready. 232 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,400 » Even during the day here in the package. 233 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,919 » Oh, it is here. >> I think it's it's here. 234 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,160 » Just It's only me at home and my mom that 235 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,320 takes >> second page. 236 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 » Here's your 237 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:18,799 » No, no, second page >> in the in the packet. A minute for me. 238 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:23,200 » Okay. >> Oh, get the second page. 239 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:32,480 » Here it is. I've got it. Yeah. >> Okay. So, um 240 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,480 just you know, whatever you can 241 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:41,480 uh we'll we'll try to resolve this one way or another, but it's probably going 242 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,480 to go to a warning and 243 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:47,919 » the next step. >> Yeah. But we'll do our best. 244 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,880 » We We will do our best >> solve the matter. Yeah. 245 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:57,280 » Yeah. We've had issues with dogs biting people and stuff and we had to have dogs 246 00:20:54,799 --> 00:21:00,159 removed from the house, but we don't we don't want to go there. It's not even 247 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:05,120 close to being there. people that live next to me that are there 247 don't hear 248 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,159 my dog, right? So, house two doors down is complaining who's not even there half 249 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,919 the time >> and knows it's my dogs, but she's never 250 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,360 met my dogs. My dogs. >> All right. Well, 251 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,720 » so we'll hear all >> we'll hear all that. Bring whatever you 252 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,640 have. And >> if your witnesses can't attend, uh 253 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:25,600 » maybe statements from >> Yeah, a statement from a witness is 254 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,880 fine. Or if they can attend by Zoom, uh we have the two emails. That's fine. If 255 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:33,679 you have anything else, just bring it along with you and we'll try to try to 256 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:35,200 resolve this. >> Like, 257 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,679 » yeah, >> like that their dispute. 258 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,799 » I mean, >> money on the road. Just saying. 259 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:45,600 » I I you know, it's hard for for us because we weren't there. 260 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:50,640 » So, we'll do the best we can. And if if a warning is issued, 261 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:55,200 it that'll hopefully be the end of it. >> But we need to have more investigative 262 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,679 information. I need everything we can have 263 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:59,919 » as best we can. >> Okay. 264 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,280 » So, if I give them to these to my neighbors and they'll be like, I guess 265 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,679 » correct. Have them write statements. >> That'll be fine. 266 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,559 » Documentation. >> Okay. 267 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:13,120 » Again, thank you for coming. If you if you want to stay through our meeting, 268 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,720 you're more than welcome. But >> yes, 269 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,679 » exciting. >> Everybody has different excuses. 270 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:26,159 » Okay. Um, now that the dog complaint >> is over, 271 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:31,919 » dealt with, right, >> man, we spend more time on dog stuff. 272 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:35,760 Well, well, last year we had the cat, >> the chiller cat, 273 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,600 » but yeah, remember there was a cat running around. 274 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:43,480 » I got to come to more meetings >> and it turned out to be the wrong cat. 275 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,480 They identified the wrong cat. 276 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:51,840 » No, you can't make it up. Okay. Uh, in either case, uh, you know, we will have 277 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:56,240 We'll do whatever we're supposed to do in accordance with the local ordinance, 278 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,600 which is hold a hearing and we will find out who's right and who's wrong 279 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:05,840 hopefully. >> Okay. The next item we have on here is 280 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:11,679 another big item. Um Sharon Draper has suggested that the windows in the town 281 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:17,440 office and the town hall be cleaned cuz apparently they're dirty. Uh I asked 282 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:24,080 her to get a couple prices which she did. One was for $1,50 283 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:32,480 and one was for $620. Uh Sharon has requested approval to move 284 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:37,520 forward. Are there any comments from >> You don't clean them or No, 285 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:46,159 » that's not in her job description. >> But but shorty, we will take volunteers. 286 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:48,960 » Um Dave and I volunteer. Do do you got Can you guys hear me? This 287 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:50,559 is Betsy. >> Betsy. 288 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,400 » Yeah, Betsy. >> Yeah. So, Dave loves doing windows and I 289 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,640 will support him. So, >> I think Dave just got volunteered. 290 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,559 » Oh, yes, he did. >> Hi, Dave. 291 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,039 » Hi, Dave. >> He's not here. Therefore, he's got 292 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,799 » Yeah, there's just no way we should spend that money. 293 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:14,240 » Being volunteer, >> we will do it. We will do it. Dave and I 294 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:18,320 will do it. I'll bring a crew, >> right? That's fantastic. We thank you 295 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:23,760 for that >> and we will tell Sharon. 296 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:25,360 » I I'll call Sharon and we'll set up a time. 297 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,200 » Okay, >> great. Thank you, Ben. 298 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,120 » We appreciate that. And then when you're done, 620 camper. 299 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:38,640 » Um, >> I'll send Dave over. 300 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:42,960 » Where is Dave? Let him defend himself. >> Dave Dave's up at the farm. He's late 301 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:47,120 for dinner, so too bad. >> Wow. That's what happens when you get 302 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:52,640 volunteered. >> Bring beer. 303 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:55,919 » When are you going to tell him? >> He gets home. 304 00:24:54,559 --> 00:25:00,000 » The middle of the night. >> I'll call him as soon as he gets home. 305 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,520 » I just texted Michelle Greson. She wants to be in on this next item. 306 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,840 » Is she on? >> Uh she's going to call in. She's at 307 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,640 work. >> Okay. 308 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,080 » But uh she asked me to text her, which I did. 309 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:16,080 » When we're ready. >> We're ready. Um, so Nancy, uh, the the 310 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:22,080 next item here is the EPC recommendation for open positions. Um, first I I just 311 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:28,960 want to say a couple things. One, it's great. We had four candidates apply. Um, 312 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:33,520 which is is great. There's times we can't get anybody. So, the fact that we 313 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:38,400 have uh four candidates applying is a fantastic thing. Uh, it's great to see 314 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:41,760 this type of interest in a open position. 315 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:47,440 Um, so with that, uh, Nancy, if you want to 316 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:49,919 take it until we'll see if Michelle Oh, Michelle's here. Okay, 317 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:54,240 » Michelle. Right. >> Um, where is she? 318 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:57,640 Should be at the top. >> There she is. 319 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,320 » Michelle. >> Yeah, she's on. 320 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:07,600 » She's there. >> Yes, I I'm here. 321 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:12,640 » Okay, good. We're We're just getting into this. I was just thanking everybody 322 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:16,960 that uh and pretty happy about the fact that we did have four candidates and u 323 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,279 you know I don't know if you or Nancy want to take it um and kind of go 324 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,520 through what you did and then I have some notes. 325 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:32,159 » Uh Nancy if you're there if you want to run through it. Sorry I just uh I I bet 326 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:36,240 I'm on a little bit of a vacation right now and just wanted to call in and be 327 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:40,000 available. >> Yeah, I can take it. 328 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Glen, like you just said, we had four really good candidates. We had um 329 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:52,559 different backgrounds. We had different um 330 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:56,039 experience. We had different um a variety, I 331 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:04,400 um reasons to want to be on the board. And 332 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:10,400 um we did go the three of us went into executive section and we did um come up 333 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:15,440 with two names to advance as a recommendation. 334 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:21,640 Um we decided to as our recommendations Betsy Perez and 335 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,640 Brian Evans. 336 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:26,559 » Yes. >> Right. 337 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:32,159 um process was 338 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:39,919 really just to go back over um they they were all there, all four of 339 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:45,360 them. They um spoke um about their experience, about why they wanted to be 340 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:53,039 on the board, about um their backgrounds and where they're coming from. Um 341 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:58,039 all of them had something definitely to bring forth. Um 342 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:08,360 and we made the this these decisions um based on all 343 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:08,360 that information. 344 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:17,520 » Michelle, do you have anything to add? >> Nope. I think you covered it, Nancy. We 345 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:24,080 had four really great candidates and they all um all but one um had submitted 346 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:29,039 their letter of interest prior to the meeting last month and everyone had 347 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:33,760 really great qualifications and things to bring to the board um for the select 348 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:37,600 board to decide and that's what we came with our recommendation. It wasn't easy. 349 00:28:35,919 --> 00:28:40,600 Uh we were lucky to have so many great applicants. 350 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,279 » Okay. Could could we get the names of all of the 351 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:52,799 » Yeah, I'm going to go through that. Um, in addition to the EPC recommendation, 352 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:57,679 uh, which we all received, the select board has reviewed the verbal 353 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:04,080 introductions by each of the candidates. Um, we also, uh, reviewed the recording 354 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:10,159 of the EPC meeting. We all watched it. Um, the letters of interest were 355 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:16,480 submitted by Brian Evans, Warren West, and Betsy Perez. 356 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:22,080 Um, so we had that uh Colin Reynolds uh gave 357 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:28,240 a verbal introduction uh after asking the EPC and other 358 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:33,840 candidates if they would be amendable to u him um speaking because he didn't 359 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:40,640 submit a letter prior to the deadline of which they all said yes that was fine. 360 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:44,799 So, uh he is on the recording. Um before making a final decision, the uh 361 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:50,320 select board will and it's on our agenda. We'll enter into an executive 362 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:54,880 session to discuss this matter prior to making a final decision. 363 00:29:52,880 --> 00:30:00,120 So, if anybody else has anything to add to that, we'll certainly listen to it 364 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,120 now. 365 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:08,880 Okay. Um well, a lot of time and effort seems 366 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:15,520 like it's been put into uh vetting um the candidates and hopefully u we make 367 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:24,279 the right decisions here. But thank you to all those who applied. 368 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,279 Okay. Um hearing nothing else, 369 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:35,200 uh the next item I have on our um agenda here is reviewing the action list, which 370 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:40,880 is in your package. It's kind of short this week, which is good. 371 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:44,480 » I think we're down to three items, four. 372 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:48,000 Um I know Trevor is still working on trying 373 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,520 to get prices on the ramp and the stairs. meeting with somebody tomorrow 374 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,640 and we'll add in >> Yeah, we're gonna add in this ramp out 375 00:30:52,880 --> 00:31:01,200 here, which if you walked up this ramp, you'll see that it's uh a little spongy. 376 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:05,440 Yes. So, we're going to add that in. >> Are we going to add a big enough door 377 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,120 for the wheelchair access also? >> We did have a problem with that, didn't 378 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240 we? >> Yeah. 379 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:14,480 » Where this door, the wheelchair doesn't fit through. Somebody was here. Who was? 380 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:20,399 It was like a year or so ago. >> You guys through the the other door. 381 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:25,520 Uh the main entrance I'm not sure but the ramp at least 382 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:27,039 » right and this one with the ramp and the door is not wide enough for a 383 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,600 wheelchair. >> That's what I'm thinking. And you got 384 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,279 you got a lot of work here if you're going to do that. 385 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,960 » No ripping and tearing. Right. >> Y saying that one's not 386 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:42,640 » We'll look into it but >> we may put that as a separate project 387 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:47,039 outside of the other but but the ramp itself is really getting 388 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,799 » spongy. Uh, Nancy, the town appropriations, 389 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:55,279 um, your draft, I think I sent you an email. I don't know if you got it. I was 390 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:59,760 asking You didn't get it. Uh, I was asking if you could send it to 391 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,840 me in Word format, what you gave us last month. 392 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,840 » Oh, >> you didn't see that? 393 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:06,480 » No, I did not. I'm sorry. >> All right. If you get a chance, if you 394 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,960 could just send that to the three of us so we can really get a chance to review 395 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,399 it >> and give comments. 396 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,919 » So, what is that document? I just wanted clarification. It's attached to the 397 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,000 » I believe >> the previous one. Yeah. 398 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,039 » The last month last month's agenda. >> Yeah. 399 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:30,399 » So it was there >> last to the minutes. 400 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:33,440 » The minutes. Okay. My minutes that I issued. 401 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,080 » Okay. >> Yeah. 402 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:45,360 » Yeah. It's just easier for me to comment on word if it's a problem. 403 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:50,080 But um you know just track changes. It's just easier for me. If it's a 404 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,840 problem, let me know. But >> word. 405 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,399 » Oh well, what did you do it on? >> I can put it in. 406 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:59,600 » I got it. >> Google. 407 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:03,679 » I I did notice that there was a >> You can Google. 408 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:08,720 » I'm not a Google person. >> Okay. If we can get that again. Uh, 409 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,880 unfortunately, I don't think any of us had a chance to review that this month, 410 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,519 but >> No, I didn't. But I did notice in the 411 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:21,039 director's orders for the month that we all signed off on and take a look at so 412 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:26,240 forth that there was a thank you letter from one of the organizations who gets a 413 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:31,360 request from us from the town and that was um the Moy Restorative Center. they 414 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:37,760 had sent a thank you and you know they're in receipt of the $150 that we 415 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,480 pledged through allocations. So I just wanted to mention that it's in there. 416 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:45,840 » Well, we're going to be working on next year's budget before we turn around. So 417 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:48,399 it'd be good to to get that resolved. So >> uh if you guys could work that out, 418 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,399 we'll take a look at it. We'll definitely address it at next uh next 419 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:57,519 month's meeting. And Nancy, if you want any help with any of that, I'm pretty 420 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,840 familiar with a lot of these nonprofits, so I'd be happy to work with you. Just 421 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,760 give me a holler. Okay. >> Well, yeah. Um, but you may have a whole 422 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,200 plan already. You probably do. >> Well, it was kind of my recommendations 423 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:14,399 of what I did. >> Okay. What you've done. 424 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:19,440 » Yeah. We'll go through, >> but we'll look at that. Thank you. 425 00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:22,960 » Um, Michelle, any progress on the demo? No. Okay. I know you're swamped. 426 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,919 » July's been really busy. >> Would would it help you if if I got 427 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,879 together with you and tried to write it myself or? 428 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:33,280 » Um I hopefully in the next week or two. 429 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,919 » Okay. Let me know if you need help. I'm available. 430 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,839 » And Charlie, I'm sure we don't have anything new on the shoreline 431 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,200 restoration. >> We do. 432 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,200 » Oh, we do. >> Okay. 433 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:53,440 » We've been working with a gal Emily Porter Goff who's uh over Yep. at the uh 434 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:56,079 the resource group in Morrisville. >> Yeah. 435 00:34:54,079 --> 00:35:04,440 » And the funding source that she had previously went away. However, it's come 436 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,440 back again and it's called the u 437 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,520 the right term here, 438 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,760 the enhancement enhancement repairarian buffer grant. 439 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,680 And it's it's a Roland grant. It comes out of the 440 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:23,520 Vermont Department of Environmental Conservation. 441 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:28,240 Um, and it's for it's to implement high 442 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:35,200 priority cost-effective repairarian buffer plannings along river streams 443 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:42,880 um using native vegetation blah blah. Um, the funding round is coming up again 444 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:48,000 this fall for uh for spring planting in 2027 445 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:51,760 » or worst case next fall. Um, and her question is, "Would you like me to apply 446 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,720 on behalf of the town?" >> Absolutely. Sure. I needed your blessing 447 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,599 to her. >> Absolutely. 448 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:01,760 » And please give me her name for the minute. Emily Taylor. 449 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,000 » Emily Porter-goff. >> Porter. Okay. 450 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,720 » Porter Golf. >> Porter Golf. GFF. 451 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,240 » GOFF. >> Okay. Thank you, Charlie. 452 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,240 » I think she was here. >> Yeah, I know she came at one point. 453 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:17,200 She's also the the gal that's been working on the grant for uh the West 454 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,160 Loop Road, >> right? Oh, that's where that's where 455 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,480 » that's where we've met her before. Yeah, >> she surfaces every now and then, but 456 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,960 hasn't been >> She took Peter's position. 457 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:33,760 » Oh, right. Okay. Now I Yeah, it's clicking. Okay. Thank you. 458 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:37,680 » I'd be interested in in seeing the grant grant application. I think 459 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:41,440 » it's about seven pages and it's checked the boxes and 460 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:44,960 » I would be interested in seeing >> even better. 461 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,680 » Yeah. >> Well, that's that's good news. 462 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,920 » Good news. >> I'll forward you the link. 463 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:53,280 » That's great. >> Great. 464 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:58,079 » All right, moving along. Unless anybody have any comments or questions on that? 465 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:03,760 No. That would be a wonderful thing if we get the shoreline research. 466 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:07,920 Um, I just have on here discuss pay increases for town employees. Um, my 467 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:14,960 bad. Uh, they're supposed to get their increases July 1st. Forgot all about it. 468 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:19,119 So, we're just going to discuss it um in executive session, but it's pretty much 469 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,680 going to follow what we approved in last year's budget. So, 470 00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:26,880 » who was a new town employee that last meeting? 471 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:31,280 » The woman that was here. Yeah. >> Said uh 472 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:36,079 on a select board meeting went into executive to discuss a new employee. 473 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:39,119 » Oh, that was a personnel matter. >> Not this. It wasn't this shorting. 474 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:42,400 » Didn't hire anybody. >> No, 475 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:46,000 » no, no. We hired no one. >> We There was a discussion about an 476 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,560 employee matter. That's all. >> Thank you. 477 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,240 » Yep. >> Okay. So, that that we'll do that in 478 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,200 executive session, but um like I said, it's pretty much going to follow what 479 00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:00,400 was approved. Um There's a I'm missing 480 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,359 B. >> Too big or not too big? Um 481 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,920 » I'm next. >> Yes. Harwood Flats um logging update. Um 482 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:15,599 Sharon. >> Yep. I received a very um detailed email 483 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:21,680 um from Richard Carbonetti who is the senior 484 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:26,160 advisor for Landfest um forest resources division. And so here's what I'm going 485 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:31,119 to do, which is what I did last month as well. I'm going to um take his email and 486 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:36,079 I'm going to just give you some highlights from the email and then the 487 00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:42,240 entire email will be in the minutes attached to you know the record which 488 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:49,359 will go on the website. Okay. So here is the view from 10,000 ft. All right. 489 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:54,400 Upgrading of the unimproved segment of Elmoretown Highway 29. All of the road 490 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,839 work intended for this summer on the Elmertown rightway has been completed 491 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:05,599 and there are some bullets that fall under that. Roadway has been constructed 492 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:11,520 using all the required Vermont state and wetland regulatory requirements. On-site 493 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:16,560 blasting created riff wrap ledge material and gravel that has replaced 494 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:24,000 the need to truck an additional plus or minus 100 loads of gravel on the town 495 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:30,240 neighbors. So that is a savings um you know in terms of found and um effort. 496 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:35,520 Blasting reduced the overall need for gravel since the blasting has eliminated 497 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:40,320 the ledge impediments. Blasting enabled the installation of 498 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:44,960 ditches and drainage structures that will provide the long-term stability of 499 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:49,520 the town road. This blasting has environmental benefits 500 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:55,040 in preparing a roadway that will be stable and in compliance with all AM and 501 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,520 wetland rules. With the completion of the road past the 502 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:03,920 wetlands, all blasting has been completed. 503 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:12,000 We have continued to coordinate with Rick Dwire FPNR for several inspections. 504 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:18,160 Further forestry operations have also been inspected by the Loyal County 505 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:23,680 Forester Emily Sers. The Elmore Road foreman has also made 506 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:29,760 several additional visits to the site to ensure town road improvements meet with 507 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:37,599 his approval. That's Michelle. As noted previously, an internal road 508 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:42,240 will be constructed on EL ELT LLC. The route plans for that road have been 509 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:49,839 reviewed and approved by in the field by both Richard Dwire and Jocelyn Stelto 510 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:56,800 of FPNR. New road is entirely on the land of ELT LLC. We are noting this for 511 00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:01,440 information purposes so as to be as transparent as possible. 512 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:06,000 We continue to have members of the public visiting and commenting on the 513 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:10,720 project. Timber harvesting update. 514 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:18,880 Harvesting continues on the land of Wildwood Ventures LLC and has been 515 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:25,119 initiated on the land of ELT LLC. As a reminder, Wildwood Ventures LLC has 516 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:33,520 received approval from the Vermont Land Trust that the harvest complies with the 517 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:39,839 terms and condition of the VLT easement. Harvesting will continue on Wildwood 518 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:45,040 Ventures and ELT LLC. Harvesting will likely continue through 519 00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:51,760 the fall until the fall mud season prevents us from operating without 520 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:55,839 damage. This is likely that then it is likely that we will return for winter 521 00:41:53,839 --> 00:42:02,480 operations. We anticipate maximum weekly logging 522 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:08,800 truck traffic to be 5 to 10 trucks. There will be days without trucks at all 523 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:14,640 and possibly days with more depending on logging conditions, availability of 524 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:20,720 trucks and other considerations. That concludes Richard's report to me 525 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:27,520 and I will include in the minutes the entire report. I just gave you, you 526 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:31,200 know, the thumbnail sketch of it now. >> Okay. Well, thank you for that, Sharon, 527 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,520 because we did uh make a commitment that we would keep the public notified as far 528 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:41,040 as what's going on on up there. There's a lot of concern where operations began. 529 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:46,880 So, that's good. So, we'll continue to update on a monthly basis. 530 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:53,520 Uh, next item I have on the agenda is, uh, Trevor had rewritten the, uh, class 531 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:59,599 4 road policy, made some amended. Yeah, amended, modified. Uh, made a couple 532 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,240 changes in there. Um, I don't know. Sure. If you want to give us the 533 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,839 highlights. >> Uh, 534 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,960 this was a while ago that I did it, so I just want to make sure. I think the 535 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,720 um yeah, the big changes that we've just 536 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:23,040 added uh to section 4 under maintenance 537 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:26,480 um uh I'll just read it. Uh maintenance not performed by town. All maintenance, 538 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,640 repair, improvement, restoration, plowing, or other activities by parties 539 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:38,319 other than town shall occur only after written approval of the select board. 540 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:44,319 Um, and we've added uh or highway commissioner 541 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:50,480 and uh I think there just a couple other notes. 542 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:55,280 This is in all in black so I can't see the 543 00:43:52,480 --> 00:44:01,200 difference here but it was basically just keeping that consistent 544 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:04,640 um that authority that is shared by the select board or the highway 545 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:09,359 commissioner. So the way I think it reads is that um the slice board does 546 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:14,240 have the authority but the private commissioner is also granted that 547 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:17,760 authority but the um 548 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:22,480 written uh request still needs to be submitted 549 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,280 to the select board. That doesn't go away, right? 550 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:29,920 » So any new roads do have to be submitted and made public 551 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:35,920 » regardless of how it's approved. >> Public have any comments or questions? 552 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:41,599 Oh, sorry. >> I have a comment on 553 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:46,960 paragraph number 11, which is compliance with other regulations. 554 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:52,400 You should be mindful that the town zoning bylaws have very strict 555 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:57,040 regulations about new development roads. Uh any any new road serving subdivisions 556 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:02,640 and developments and that anybody wanting to improve a 557 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:06,640 town highway may be subject to those zoning bylaws that have to do with road 558 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:11,680 construction. Um, during the zoning rewrite or bylaw 559 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,880 update, I'm going to be asking the planning commission to look at that 560 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:22,240 subject and see if there's any way we can make it so that it's more equitable 561 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:29,119 in terms of complying with some rules and and also examining the aspect of 562 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:32,400 future development off of those roads. >> Right. The class 563 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,520 » not seated to any standard. >> Right. Right. Really 564 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,520 » the class four road. So these are class four roads really 565 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,200 » take Lake View Lane for example. >> Correct. 566 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,760 » Okay. >> Right. 567 00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:48,160 » All of a sudden there's incre incremental growth 568 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,640 » and little handle on on the specifications to upgrade to accommodate 569 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:56,480 new residences. >> So do you think the way this is written 570 00:45:54,079 --> 00:46:01,520 is sufficient at this point until we >> until we get new zoning regulations? 571 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:05,440 » I would like the select board to to be mindful that there are zoning 572 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,040 regulations. We're getting into the same subject. 573 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:13,200 » So just for clarity, section 11 reads, "Compiance with other regulations. This 574 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:17,760 policy intended only to supplement state law, local ordinances, and bylaws. All 575 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,560 other ordinances and policies adopted by the town shall remain in full force in 576 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,640 effect." So I think that covers pretty clear. 577 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:32,880 » And then this is another change that I made just um section 11. Uh 578 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:38,000 well, I just added a section that we're redating the the adoption of the um 579 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,800 policy >> just changing the date to Okay. 580 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:44,640 » Yeah. >> to now. 581 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:48,319 » Well, it's just been revived. Oh, yeah. >> To now. 582 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:54,720 » Yes. This policy supersedes um town of Elmer Class 4 highway trail policy dated 583 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:56,000 May 11th, 2016. So, this is super, >> right? 584 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,280 » That's why I changed that. >> Okay. 585 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:04,560 » Okay. Then I'll make a motion to approve that and sign it tonight uh as written. 586 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,079 » And I will second that motion. >> All in favor? 587 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,000 » I >> I 588 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:11,520 » Okay. So, we'll sign that. We don't have to sign it right now, but we'll sign it 589 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:15,440 before the evening's over and we'll have to make sure that uh they get a copy of 590 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,720 it and gets posted onto our website. >> Y skipped an item. Glad 591 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:22,160 » I did. I skipped an item. >> You skipped the capital advisory floor. 592 00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,960 » Uh I did. >> You did, sir. 593 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:31,520 » I didn't mean to do that. >> Questions? 594 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:35,839 Just a quick question for my own info. Mr. Burnham mentioned about the 595 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,960 incremental addition of housing units on Lake View Light. It's currently a class 596 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:45,280 four, correct? >> Lake View L. What does it take 597 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:49,920 in this town? Say there are enough houses out on Lake View Lane that people 598 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:57,200 all get to get them and want to upgrade that from a class 4 to a class three. 599 00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:02,160 Are there is there a procedure in place for the town to do that? And who just 600 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,200 out of curiosity who has final say on yes, we're going to do it or not. 601 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:09,520 » Okay. >> But Charlie, you worked on a an 602 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:15,599 agreement on that road, right? >> I just used that as an example, right? 603 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:20,560 » I I believe the way the regulations this bylaw here is that if somebody wants to 604 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:24,319 upgrade it to a class three, you bring it up to town highway standards, 605 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:28,640 » right? And it's on >> responsible for the developer to yeah 606 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:33,280 for the people that want to use it or add additional properties to 607 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:37,280 » and would they need they would need to get or I think they would want to get 608 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:41,760 approval from the select board first before they invested all that money. 609 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:44,880 » Yes, they do also an act 250 controlled 610 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,839 roadway. >> Right. 611 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:52,079 » So that's one of the few in town that is covered by a 250. 612 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:57,680 » Yeah. Sterling View, Worester Ridge, they'll ask me about every other year 613 00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:02,000 if we take them take it over and I'm like, "Well, go see Nick Minaj and have 614 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,680 them give you a bid or a quote for what it would cost you to bring it to class 615 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,880 of respects and that usually calms them down for another couple years." 616 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:13,680 » So, pretty much the same then as as any like private role that want to become a 617 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,480 a public. >> Yeah. Yeah. 618 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,000 » All right. >> I think Nancy, you had a question. I 619 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:25,520 just when you post this to the website, will the old one get archived so that 620 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:32,000 there's only the current one on there? >> That's a good question. Um, and I will 621 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,200 What would you recommend? The old one is going to be archived, but I don't know 622 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:40,240 that it'll be archived on the website. Um, 623 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:44,720 » recommend only the current just >> available 624 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:48,960 » the updated. Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, we can label it clearly, 625 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:52,000 but that still doesn't resolve all the issues. 626 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:57,599 » Archive stuff on the website. >> I was just curious. Plus free roads are 627 00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,000 » are better than the Elmore Mountain Road. 628 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:04,240 » No, no, no. >> I'm back to the other track. They are or 629 00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:06,880 not? I mean, do they auto if they go to class three roads? Are they 630 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,680 automatically given over by the town? >> No. 631 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,200 » No, no. It still needs to be approved by the sled board. Thank you. 632 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:15,200 » Yeah, there's no automatic approval. >> Yeah. And I don't think that's 633 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,040 happening. >> That's the first step, 634 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,599 » right? >> Well, it's a class three, but when if 635 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,359 you meet the new standards, studies new standards, 636 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:31,440 Elmore Mountain Road is like grandfather just because it's always been existing. 637 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:38,079 But when you build new, you've got to have X amount of heat, sub certain 638 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:42,079 subbase. you. It's a total >> You're building an interstate basically. 639 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:46,160 You're starting from scratch building a road. It's not just dumping gravel over 640 00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:48,640 some fabric. >> We're tweener. 641 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,079 » Yes. >> Stay that way. My driveway. 642 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,240 » What's that? >> My driveway. 643 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:03,040 » Right. >> Back to the previous 644 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:09,359 » Okay. I'm sorry. I missed the other one here. Um, we've been talking about the 645 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:15,920 formulation of uh the Elmer Capital Advisory Board. Uh, we seem to have u 646 00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:20,880 pretty good amount of interest so far. Uh, we've received interest from Lauren 647 00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:26,800 West, uh, Randy Tomlin who's here, Sharon Draper, Steven Nutting, and Brian 648 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:33,359 Brian Evans >> Nice. Um, 649 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:39,359 what we'd like to do is, uh, if Ry's willing to become the chair again. 650 00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:42,559 » Bless your heart. >> Bless your in Texas. That means 651 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,640 something else. >> I know, but I'm not a Texas. 652 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:52,480 » So, yeah, Randy, you did a great job on the equipment board. And, uh, if you 653 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:57,920 want to take the chair of this uh, >> capital advisory board. Um, 654 00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:01,119 » does it have a time, date, and >> we talked about trying to get this thing 655 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,240 set up in September? >> Okay. 656 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,720 » Uh, just because summer is just crazy and and sitting here. 657 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:13,599 » When does it need an output? >> Well, there's really no time frame. The 658 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:18,319 money is is available. I mean, right now, you know, it's invested at bank. 659 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,119 » We did something in the next three months that would be useful. 660 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:26,160 » That would be fine. Yeah. anything we come up with and there's no not a huge 661 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,640 rush but we need to have a plan if >> No, I don't know 662 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,599 » if there's a better plan than what we're currently doing with the cash we have. 663 00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:38,400 » Oh, there's a better plan. >> That's right. And knowing all the work 664 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:44,559 that the equipment um committee did with our 15-year uh 665 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:46,000 projections, you know, we know at some points we're going to have a lot of 666 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,480 cash. >> Okay. 667 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,119 » And we need to know what to do with it. >> Yeah. I'm I'm happy to I'm happy to be 668 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,280 engaged. >> Okay. So, what we'll do is we'll get 669 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,200 together. We'll try to come up with some dates and formulate 670 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,400 uh this group. >> Are you going to recommend a date? 671 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880 » Uh I'm happy to do it. >> If you want to do it, that's fine. 672 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:09,359 » No, no. I I think it'd be good to come from the board like the last time. Just 673 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:13,359 say, you know, pick a date and show up and then let's, you know, pow out. 674 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:18,400 » Yeah. Of course, if after if after going through what we did to get a date, 675 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,480 » we don't need a dog. We got six people here. I don't maybe next year. 676 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,839 » Just clear a date. >> I have a question about membership. So 677 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:33,520 just for the minutes. So Warren Randy, >> I'll give you this. I have some Warren 678 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:37,440 Randy Sharon Draper. >> She's the keeper of the funds. So she 679 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,920 needs to be involved. Steve Nutting >> and Brian Evans. Um I'll probably also 680 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:45,119 be on there. I thought Nancy wanted to be on it. 681 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:50,960 » Did you want to be on there, Nancy? if I wanted to exist. So if you needed 682 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:55,200 people to round it out. >> Okay. Uh yeah, I just didn't have you 683 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:58,480 listed. >> Yeah. Uh let's put Nancy on. 684 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:03,280 » Name Nancy. That's >> And unless one of you two want to 685 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,440 volunteer. I I'll take the bullet. >> That's fine. 686 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,960 » We're going to meet at where we meet. We'll probably meet here. 687 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,960 » Okay. >> Six o'clock's good time. 688 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,440 » Six o'clock. >> Got a good time. I don't know. I kind of 689 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:16,240 like the truck thing. Nobody has birthdays on 690 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:21,440 » my dog's birthdays. >> I'll be out of town for 14 years. 691 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:26,319 » All right. So, we'll we'll work on that. We'll contact everybody. 692 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,119 » It is. I'm sorry, but >> just declare a date. 693 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,839 » Yeah, we'll we'll work on the date. We'll let everybody know. Then we'll 694 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,520 hear everybody can't make it. We'll pick another date. 695 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,880 » All right. Um if you can't make it, you're wrong. 696 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:44,559 » I think we beat that. Um the next item I have, which is E, 697 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:51,200 uh is the 2026 stormwater inspection report. Just a an quick update on that. 698 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:57,440 Uh we had I forget where we we were as of last month, but we had um 699 00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:02,240 our first designer come out and we weren't really very happy with what he 700 00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:08,000 was coming up with. So we've contacted a second engineer, 701 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:11,680 uh Dwolf, uh came out. We met with them and they're going to give us a proposal 702 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:17,520 to evaluate the site whether it's wetlands or not. We're hoping it's not 703 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:23,280 and then we'll uh come up with a course of action. Uh if you're not familiar 704 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:30,400 with the subject, uh it's it's at the town garage. Um we need to have more 705 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:35,200 space for storage of stone and sand. Uh we created a yard up there and it may or 706 00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:41,599 may not be in wetlands. The interesting thing that we did find out from cross is 707 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,520 they never did a study >> bait. 708 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:48,240 » Don't get a study with cross. >> Yeah. So this this is what I had to find 709 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:54,319 out to get to the new engineer. And I found out that preconstruction there was 710 00:55:51,440 --> 00:56:00,480 never a study for wetlands. And the guy that came out to assess the land 711 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:05,760 recently did not make up a report and he may or may not be the right guy for 712 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:10,160 identifying wetlands. So we've gone to another engineer. 713 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:15,040 Um, like I said, Dwarf, uh, is going to give us a proposal, uh, which we should 714 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:19,920 have in the next couple days, and, uh, we'll hopefully get them working on 715 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:26,880 that. So, but the idea is to keep that storage area, um, permanently, and, um, 716 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:31,040 unless you have anything to add on that, Michelle. 717 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:33,839 » No, I you know, I've, you know, you've heard my disappointments about it, so 718 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,680 » Yes, >> I know. And 719 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,160 » place wet. >> No, no, 720 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,680 » no. Well, and it was >> well when it rains, 721 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,720 » right? And you know, three years ago when they said this is where your garage 722 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:50,400 is, this is going to be your storage area. So everything was built to that 723 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:54,880 storage area. I make it into a storage area. It's been in compliance the last 724 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,440 three years and this year all of a sudden it's a wetland. 725 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:03,440 » So we just got to be done with cross. >> We're we're trying. We're I the last 726 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:06,559 thing I did with them is is ask them for these reports to which they said 727 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,319 » they don't have it >> right. 728 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,720 » They never did it. >> Double jeopardy. 729 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:16,240 » So um so we're working on that. >> Um 730 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,040 if we have to do anything out there, it's not going to happen till spring 731 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:23,359 anyhow. >> Um based on where we are now, the 732 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:27,280 permits that would be required. So it would be probably next year's budget 733 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:32,400 before we had to do anything up there. be a big number of up to some. 734 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:35,920 » It may or may not. Um, if we just have to dig a pond, I I think we can get away 735 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:38,480 pretty cheap, >> right? 736 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,799 » Another ring already. >> Yep. 737 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,640 » Um, don't go. >> Okay. So, does anybody have any 738 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,880 questions on that whole mess? >> And we can get a grant for that rain 739 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,760 garden. >> Maybe 740 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,640 » it's still got water in it. I saw it yesterday over here. Oh, yeah. There's 741 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:57,040 water. >> Okay. Um, that gets us up to, uh, the 742 00:57:55,359 --> 00:58:00,000 road commissioner's report. >> Yep. 743 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,000 » All right. So, um, >> easier if you don't have 744 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,000 » Yeah, I was going to say there are some extra copies. Um, 745 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:12,480 » so we did the rental of a roadside mower uh, back starting on July 20th. It was 746 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:16,880 we had it for two weeks. Um, two passes were made around town and a limited 747 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:20,559 amount of brush was trimmed back. If it hit the windshield on the tractor, it 748 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:25,200 got trimmed back. Um went around with a loader and the 749 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:33,040 sweeper, cleaned up the beach road. I mean, we're way behind on that. Uh town 750 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:37,920 aprons on the black top uh town offices. We also completed a nice culbert project 751 00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:42,720 on the Elmore Mountain Road. Um one culbert is crossing the intersection of 752 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:47,760 Sterling View and Elmore NLES and the other one was placed under Sterling View 753 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:54,960 itself. Um these culberts are 24 in in diameter and certainly we got a nice new 754 00:58:50,880 --> 00:59:01,599 road sign and a stop sign. So um little more rules over there. Um before the 755 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:05,520 inter the cart used to cross through the intersection on an angle 756 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:09,920 » and we were losing the side of the road. So now having it going through Sterling 757 00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:14,400 View, we've got some nice headers, concrete headers. So we were able to add 758 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:20,240 almost 4 ft to the road. So they widened it out in a narrow section there. Um 759 00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:23,599 mountain road was graded and chlorideed. Um we're presently working on Simmons 760 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:28,880 Mill Road. We're putting down some new gravel on the entire length 761 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:34,640 equipment. The grater was out of service July 16th through the 23rd. We had a 762 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:42,160 nice little noise in the front right wheel. Um we had Elijah Cley come up and 763 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:46,240 help us. Um, he tore apart the planetary. We shims were added to 764 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,680 realign the gears and the bearings so they wouldn't rub on the outside casing. 765 00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:54,160 So, there's they're starting to have some wear, but it's just normal wear. 766 00:59:51,760 --> 01:00:00,079 Um, oil is drained out, planted air was flushed out, and new oil was added. On 767 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:07,119 the other stuff, FEMA, um, I put in well over 30 hours this past month um, in the 768 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:11,520 office working on Puma. Finally got everything approved over there on Earl 769 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:15,040 Grey Road. our engineers design, our new change in scope, which is interesting 770 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:20,480 because they're the one that changed the scope of work because they didn't accept 771 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:26,640 our port order. So, we got to write all new work orders and and scopes for this 772 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:31,599 new culvert. Our permits are in place. Um, Army Corps of Engineers state 773 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:36,400 permit. I think I've met all their criteria. I haven't heard from them for 774 01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:39,040 a week or two now. So, I believe we're going to move forward on this project 775 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:43,599 next year. Um, we'll be changing a large culbert on 776 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:48,640 Simmons Mill in the next two weeks. I have not set a date because the culbert 777 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,599 has not showed up yet in my yard. Um, grant and aid work. Um, that's a one of 778 01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:58,160 the grants from the state of Vermont. We'll be working on Hardwood Flats Road 779 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,920 on the Kirect Hill Per portion of the road. We'll be doing ditching, stone 780 01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:05,640 lining, cover work, and that will be done in the month of September. 781 01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:11,839 I guess you know the the covert that we got to go back and replace. Are they 782 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:16,480 going to pay for that or how did >> Yeah. So um Yeah. So FEMA is going to 783 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:23,520 pay 75% of it. We're going to end up paying 25% of it. Um so we're looking at 784 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:29,920 almost $230,000 project. >> Wow. 785 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:35,839 » So um it's a long ways from the $12,000 fix that we put in during the flooding. 786 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:40,559 Um, but I mean engineer cost, I mean they don't accept my my design. It's got 787 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,480 to be approved engineers and stuff. So, um, that all adds up and it's got to go 788 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,760 through a bid process since it's federal money. 789 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,680 » It's a different process than what we would normally just pick three names 790 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:55,280 that are. >> So, you I don't think you mentioned 791 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:59,280 anything at the end the south end of the the construction that the state is doing 792 01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:00,880 down there. >> Route 12. 793 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:05,839 » Yeah, Route 12. >> Okay. Okay. South end of the lake. Yes. 794 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:09,040 » Okay. So, the guys, as most people saw, they pave, if you've been through there, 795 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:11,040 they paved. There's still an overlay of pavement that get needs to get done, 796 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,960 » right? >> Um I think that's next week. Guard rails 797 01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:17,599 are going in next week. That's the schedule. 798 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:22,880 » And then as soon as the guardrails are done, we'll be able to use the new road 799 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,240 and they'll be tearing out the the temporary bridge. 800 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:28,240 » Great. >> So, by the they're hoping to be out of 801 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,680 there by the end of September also, >> 1 of October. Nice. 802 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,680 » Yeah, it's looking great. I bike by there every day. 803 01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:36,960 » Yeah. >> Yeah. The the new black top's kind of 804 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,400 nice. >> Yeah. 805 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:41,119 » Yeah. >> But they have But it's still an overlay 806 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,520 to put on a black top. >> Right. 807 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,520 » All right. Well, thank you, Michelle, Charlie. 808 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:56,319 » 12 days in the office in the month of July. Um, 809 01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:01,599 doing my normal work. I'm sorry I didn't bring X copies of my report. Please. 810 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:09,240 A lot of stuff people that want to build 811 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:17,839 have a look at new project and 812 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:21,359 » checking them and clients with the ones that are under work underway. 813 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:25,480 » Yeah. Okay. I have that. I think >> attendance select more DRB. 814 01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:35,039 Um I am continuing on my project uh studying the septic systems 815 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:43,160 permits which exist for all the properties around Lake Elmore. Uh trying 816 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,160 to identify any deficiencies 817 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:50,480 and also providing a reference base for people that uh don't know where their 818 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:55,520 septic systems are. Um >> are you getting cooperation from people? 819 01:03:53,200 --> 01:04:00,319 » Yeah. an amazing number of people that have 820 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:03,520 state permits for their septic systems that have been improved over the years, 821 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,359 » but they don't know where they are really fully. 822 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,079 » Some of them because they get new owners. 823 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:12,160 » Oh, right. Property. 824 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:16,319 » Right. Right. Right. >> We only issued four zoning permits in 825 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:22,480 July. >> One for a shed, a reconstruct a garage, 826 01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:30,839 a studio shed, and a deck replacement. Um, but there wasn't a lot of zoning 827 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,839 fees the month of July. Um, 828 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,400 and we had a 829 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:42,960 one alleged violation which has all been cleared up and that's over off of Beach 830 01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:51,160 Road which was a property line issue. Uh, that's been successfully resolved 831 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,160 and that's basically it. 832 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:59,359 just as I don't know if you're aware of it but uh I test the water every two 833 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:06,319 weeks give it to the state and they do a a caffeine test which picks up septic 834 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:09,920 issues here in the lake and uh we should have the results of this year so I mean 835 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:15,359 if it's something you'd be interested so >> yeah I did it pinpoint any 836 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:19,680 » very very low >> very very low 837 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:22,880 » but the caffeine um the theory behind behind it is animals don't drink 838 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:27,680 caffeine. So if that gets into the water, it 839 01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:30,880 doesn't show up. But um fortunately people do drink caffeine. 840 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:36,079 » Even decaf is picked that up. >> Decaf does not. No. So if you drink 841 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:41,440 decaf in your systemic system doesn't work. It doesn't show up. No. But uh 842 01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:45,599 this is what the state has found. Said I do every two weeks. I take a 843 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,359 water sample and drop it off all summer long. 844 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:52,000 » Take it in different locations. >> Same location. and they give me the 845 01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:55,280 point to take it. And uh I test for a couple other things too, but caffeine is 846 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,640 one that's been added in the past couple years. 847 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,319 » Yeah. >> So anyhow, okay, so that takes care of 848 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:06,880 that. Uh I think that brings us to the end 849 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:12,319 here. Uh we are going to go into executive session, but unless anybody 850 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:16,280 has any other thing to add, Nancy, >> um when and how are we 851 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:29,200 Well, we will um we'll exit out of executive session and announce that on 852 01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:31,440 the tape, but we will also send out an email. 853 01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:33,920 » It would be it'll be in the minutes. It'll be in the minutes as well and all 854 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,160 the >> Yeah, but uh it'll be on the recording. 855 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:44,400 It'll be in the minutes and we should send uh I guess an email to everyone 856 01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:48,319 except for shorty who doesn't have email um on the planning commission 857 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,400 » to the current member. >> I think we all chip in and buy shorty a 858 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:57,839 computer. >> He doesn't want it. Planning commission 859 01:06:54,799 --> 01:07:03,760 got like a $9,000 some odd >> right. 860 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:08,640 It for doing the uh the new zoning. So, but how 861 01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:12,000 » it's that for >> Leo County Planning Commission will take 862 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760 that money >> and use it 863 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,839 » and distribute, >> right? And no. Well, it goes to them 864 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:24,079 wages. >> So, we have it um they the town will 865 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:29,280 give that we'll probably write them a check uh in that amount to Leo County 866 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,559 Planning Commission for the zoning. And then that's our portion that we received 867 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,920 in the grant. I had to go down there and sign for it. It's got to be two months 868 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,200 ago at least. >> Yeah. 869 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:43,119 » So, yeah. So, that's what that's for. It's not for the planning commission. 870 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:46,000 » No, I knew >> and and unfortunately it's not for the 871 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,480 town. So, the money's coming in, but it's going right 872 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:52,480 » asked me. I would have not had it in >> Yeah, it it's it comes in and it goes 873 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:56,559 right back out to them. But it the grant was for the town 874 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,760 » before they get the money. They get the money. 875 01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:04,680 » They get the cash. >> Okay. had a question not related 876 01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:04,680 who had talked 877 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,559 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 878 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:12,160 » There was going to be I had three things to bring up and that was going to be one 879 01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:18,400 of them when we're ready. >> Ready? 880 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:23,279 » Uh like a open forum type thing, not a formal meeting and greet. Uh I've been 881 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:28,080 thinking about it and looking at dates and I'm almost wondering if an October 882 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,920 session would make sense. there's going to be group of people or I know it's not 883 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:37,679 going to be super busy, right? >> And the store in ECT is tentatively 884 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:40,319 planning a a public event. Um so that could be a good opportunity. It's not 885 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,040 going to be as busy as the middle of the summer. 886 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:47,279 » Right. Open farm about >> Sorry. Um Nancy and I are just 887 01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:51,839 communicating nonverbally about it. We had talked a number of meetings ago 888 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:56,880 about having um an opportunity for people in the community to just give 889 01:08:53,679 --> 01:09:01,440 feedback um or ask questions of the select board without it being a formal 890 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:06,239 meeting where we're discussing town matters or business. Um, so just an 891 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:10,960 opportunity that isn't in this setting where people might feel uncomfortable 892 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:14,319 sitting in in this room in this meeting to engage with us and ask questions, but 893 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:17,440 it's not going to be there's not going to be any business discussed or anything 894 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,560 like that. >> This is sort of like like town 895 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:22,799 orientation. >> It's just like what Wilcut does, their 896 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,679 town barbecue. >> I'm not familiar with that, but that's 897 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:29,920 all right. Would you want somebody from like the DRB? 898 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,600 » Anybody can come. Um, >> no. I mean, I mean to be able to answer 899 01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:39,279 questions about that aspect. >> I don't think that would be bad. 900 01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:43,679 » Well, if there's more than one board member there, we would need to warn it. 901 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,839 » It's a >> I mean, we can check with VCT, but it 902 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:54,000 » can't talk to each other. >> We don't talk to each other anyhow. 903 01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:58,159 » The idea is the idea is not for us to like sit at a table and answer questions 904 01:09:56,719 --> 01:10:00,239 from meeting with everybody else. Well, why don't we'll just check 905 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:04,400 » sausages. Yeah. >> I just don't want to do anything wrong. 906 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:08,960 » Mhm. And and it's fine. >> Yeah. So, I I'll keep working on the 907 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:12,719 date for that and follow up with what the plans are. 908 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:16,640 » Okay. Great. Um, and then the other one of the other things was just been 909 01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:23,040 working with Michelle on looking at some options for uh heating systems at the 910 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:31,679 town garage uh as an alternative to the electric um boilers that we have that um 911 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:37,520 yeah uh the electric boilers and also reduce the uh electrical demand for the 912 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:41,840 town garage in the winter. uh which would reduce the size of the needed 913 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:47,360 generator for the emergency shelter. That's the big issue right now is that 914 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:53,280 the heavy load of the electric boilers really makes the generator a very big 915 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:57,840 purchase way bigger than it really is for lights um in the the rest of the 916 01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:02,960 building. >> So working with a couple um firms on 917 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,199 getting some estimates. We have one. We're going to meet another one on 918 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:14,480 Monday. Uh and also getting estimates for generators for the new potential um 919 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:20,000 boilers that could be supplementary um to take advantage of the electric 920 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:23,679 heaters when it makes sense to um but could also support the building um if 921 01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:28,159 the power was out, right? >> Could be supported by the generator. 922 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:32,719 » Can I ask a curious question? Um, why aren't they oil or 923 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:36,080 » Well, that's a long story. >> Okay, then don't go there. Go ahead. 924 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:41,280 » But to make a long story short, when we tried to go green on building with solar 925 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:46,080 panels and in discussions >> way before design during design, uh 926 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:50,400 there was a lot of discussion about going solar, keeping the building green 927 01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:55,199 and that avoided the oil situation. Was it the right decision looking back on it 928 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:58,239 now? Probably not. But >> um but it they do work 929 01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,600 » right >> and you know it's you know all summer 930 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,480 long I mean we're not burning any electric over there but in the winter 931 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:09,440 we're uh >> you credited like six grand so far this 932 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:13,600 summer burn in one month >> right so we we just don't have 933 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:17,679 » so if we can get some supplemental heat in there through propane or whatever we 934 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:23,520 decide to do >> we can cut back on the electrical usage 935 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:26,239 and still kind of stay green But that's making it short. There were a lot of 936 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,120 meetings held >> already, 937 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,800 » right? >> Yeah, there were a lot of meetings. 938 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:34,800 » We're penalized $600 a month year round because we use x amount of kilowatts. 939 01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:40,000 » Mhm. >> So, you know, if we could just turn on 940 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:44,080 some other source to keep us at whatever level that we don't cross that 941 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:49,040 threshold. I mean, if we don't have to pay a $600 a month penalty, I mean, 942 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:54,239 that'll help build up credits that much faster. That all help. I mean, it's a 943 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,280 it's a good size nut. It'll help pay. >> We had hoped to be net zero 944 01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:00,320 » or close to it >> when we designed the building. 945 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:01,120 » Yeah, but I bet the didn't turn out that way. 946 01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:05,360 » That's >> the generator's going to be 947 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,400 designed and then we went metal and it's single phase too calculated. 948 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:10,800 » Okay. >> Yeah. I didn't want to open. 949 01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:13,040 » It's a long story. >> Okay. 950 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,920 » It's a long sad story. >> If they cross no more. 951 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:20,560 » Yes. >> But we're working on it. I think we'll 952 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:24,400 get we have some time so we're not in a rush to get something. We can take our 953 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:32,560 time and figure out the best option. >> Uh the third item is a um 954 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:37,120 benefactor in Stow has a 60 kilowatt generator 955 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:42,400 um that they have uh donated to the Elmore community trust for the Elmore 956 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:47,360 store um which will actually cover the full building. Um the current generator 957 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:54,239 there is 30 kows and it covers most of it but not all of it. Um so the 30 958 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:58,880 kowatt generator donated by concept 2 is available and up for grabs. Um that 959 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,280 probably wouldn't be a very good fit for the town hall. It's not going to cover 960 01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:04,159 those boilers >> garage. 961 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:11,440 » So the sorry the garage not the town hall. So the let me just finish uh 962 01:14:07,679 --> 01:14:15,760 thought is that we can put the 30 kowatt generator at the fire department which 963 01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:17,840 is the primary emergency shelter and emergency operations center. 964 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,760 » That'd be good. >> The power goes out. It'll have an ATS. 965 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,960 It'll switch on. The building will run. We can open and close the doors. Our 966 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:31,120 compressors will run. >> Um and the benefactor has agreed to 967 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,480 cover the installation costs of both the store and the fire department. 968 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:39,520 » Great. And the the other thing is you'll have enough power for the town hall. 969 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:46,000 » Yeah. So the 60 kilowatt generator that's going into the um Elmore store 970 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:51,600 will also we have a spare automatic transfer switch and it has more than 971 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:56,400 enough capacity if we wanted to. We could add another leg over to the town 972 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,199 hall. So if the power goes out the town hall would have power. 973 01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:05,280 » What about the office here? Is it enough? That's 974 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,440 the power line underneath the road. >> Okay. 975 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:12,080 » We can look at other options for the town office if we needed to. It's just 976 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:15,199 getting the emergency operation centers, the emergency shelters cover. 977 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:18,239 » Yeah. But as a benefit, the town hall would 978 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:22,000 » Yeah. So I I think maybe we can sort of vote on it at the next meeting, but it 979 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:26,480 seems to make sense to take advantage of this benefactor's generation and uh do 980 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:32,000 what we can >> right to make that happen. I also have a 981 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:35,360 generator that might be useful that we're not using looked it's looked up 982 01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:37,920 but as >> what's their rating? 983 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:45,360 » I you'd have to come look at it. >> Okay. There may be the uh repeater for 984 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:49,920 the fire department uh sheriff's office fire department and Hardwick Rescue. 985 01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:52,159 There's no generator on that tower on Town Hill. 986 01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:53,760 » Well, it's you know somebody's got to come by and look at it. 987 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,920 » Yeah, I think >> it's a seam. It's a seam generator if 988 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,719 we're on mistake. >> Yeah, it won't take much up there. That 989 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,640 could be a really good fit. >> Oh, that's great. 990 01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:03,600 » Yeah, that's great. >> It powered our easily powered our our 991 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,360 whole house. >> Yeah, that'll be great. 992 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,120 » When we put solar in it, we bypass it for some reason. 993 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,840 » Fantastic. >> Cool. That's great. 994 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,920 » Well, a lot of good things came out of this meeting. 995 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:19,520 » Well, thank you, Trevor. >> We're going to get our windows cleaned 996 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,719 » and we're going to have power. >> All right. Well, with that, I'm going to 997 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,520 make a motion that we enter into executive session. Second. 998 01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:29,679 » Second that. >> Okay. All in favor? I 999 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:34,199 » So, we're entering into executive session at 7:14. 1000 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:40,400 » And Randy, I I'll be in touch. >> Okay. All right. Just let me know. I'm 1001 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,440 I'm a bum. So, I Yeah. >> I see that. I got to get you on the golf 1002 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:47,440 course. >> I should have responded when you pull a 1003 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:51,760 call out for the capital advisory. >> I don't read it because I don't know 1004 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:56,400 certain personnel, but there's something I can contribute. I work for the finals 1005 01:16:54,719 --> 01:17:01,159 affiliate. Okay. bond trading. >> What are you looking for, Trevor? I work 1006 01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,159 with 1007 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:28,639 Yeah. >> Okay. Uh we're now exiting um executive 1008 01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:37,520 session. Um still two people on the line. Michael 1009 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:41,280 Miller and Brian. Can you hear us? Are you muted, 1010 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:44,400 » Brian? You are muted. >> They may have walked away from their 1011 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:49,440 computer. Okay. Tired of us. >> All right. Well, in either case, it's 1012 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:54,080 being recorded. So, uh we we talked about three items. Uh one were the 1013 01:31:51,679 --> 01:32:01,920 members of the uh planning commission. 1014 01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:07,440 So, I would move that we approve the appointment of two members to the 1015 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:13,520 planning commission whose names are Brian Evans Menon and 1016 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:18,480 » Betsy Perez. >> Okay. Um, I'll second that. All in 1017 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,239 favor? >> I 1018 01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:27,120 » I Okay. So, unanimous. So, >> uh I will let the uh planning commission 1019 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:30,639 know. Uh the second item, >> a second 1020 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,600 waiting for Sharon >> Schwarz. 1021 01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:37,120 Second. >> I will notify planning commission 1022 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,639 » and then unanimous. All right. >> Right. 1023 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:45,280 » Okay. Great. >> Uh the second item is increasing the 1024 01:32:42,639 --> 01:32:51,440 town employee salaries uh in accordance with um our last town 1025 01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:58,960 meeting. So, we will be increasing 1026 01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:06,159 uh the wages of crew number one, which is Michelle, 1027 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:08,480 to from 75,000 to 78,000, which is a 4% increase. 1028 01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:10,480 » So, do you want the dollar amounts to go in the minute? 1029 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,239 » It's right. It's right here. I mean, >> okay. Well, that's fine. 1030 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,760 » Yeah. >> All right. 1031 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:22,080 » Um, we have crew 2 wages, which are ready. Uh he's going from 62,000 to 1032 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:24,080 65,000. I guess we don't have to put the percentages in. 1033 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:32,320 » Yeah. >> And uh we have the town clerk um is 1034 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:34,960 going from 28,000 to 30,000. >> So can we have a motion to approve 1035 01:33:34,480 --> 01:33:38,159 those? >> So moved. 1036 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:42,080 » Okay. I'll second. >> Okay, that's fine. Now, do you want the 1037 01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:46,080 dollar amounts to go in the minutes? >> Let's put the dollar amounts. So that's 1038 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:48,800 what their pay is increased in accordance with what was approved at 1039 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,280 town meeting. >> Correct. 1040 01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:57,040 » Okay. >> And it'll be retroactive to July 1st 1041 01:33:54,320 --> 01:34:00,880 because um we >> unintentionally you forgot to do this 1042 01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,960 earlier. So >> it'll be retroactive to July 1st. 1043 01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:09,920 » Okay. >> Okay. That takes care of that. 1044 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:16,719 » All right. Uh the last item we discussed uh was the retirement package for the 1045 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:22,560 town three town employees. Uh they're currently in group A, which 1046 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:28,480 is the lowest uh group of retirement benefits. Uh they've 1047 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:37,520 requested uh that they be moved up to group B. Uh we've done an evaluation 1048 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:42,719 of the cost to the town for that. and the road crew would be approximately 1049 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:48,159 $1,747 of our contribution 1050 01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:54,320 and the town clerk would be have a cost of $450. 1051 01:34:51,360 --> 01:35:02,480 Um, this is unbudgeted, but it will be taken out of other items and we will 1052 01:34:57,679 --> 01:35:08,639 make sure that this increase is shown um at next year's town meeting. 1053 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:12,400 So, we have a motion. >> Yeah. I'll move that we increase the 1054 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:17,920 retirement compensation for the employees to the group B percentage. 1055 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:21,440 Uh, which is I don't have the 1056 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:24,080 » Yeah. No, they're going to be moved to group B. 1057 01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:32,960 » Group B. Okay. >> Um, I'll second that. 1058 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:36,000 » And Okay, then. So, we have Ron Schwarz. >> And all in favor? I 1059 01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:38,080 » I >> Okay, it's unanimous. 1060 01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:44,320 » Unanimous. >> Uh that concludes our report from what 1061 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:50,480 we did in executive session. The minutes will be uh reflective of what we 1062 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:54,719 discussed and I make a motion to adjourn at 7:34. 1063 01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:56,800 » And I second that. 7:34. >> Yep. All in favor? 1064 01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,920 » I >> I Okay. Well, thank you everybody who 1065 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:08,120 joined and we're going to conclude at this time. 1066 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:08,120 134. Okay, great.