Please rise for the pledge, pledge allegiance to the power of the
Constitution.
Please be seated.
Present.
Council Member Ustman.
Present.
Supervisor Albro.
Here.
Council Member Foreman.
Here.
Council Member Rye.
Here.
We got a couple items for special consideration.
Before we adopt the agenda, we need to ask items for special consideration.
There are several.
Let me read them out.
One would be a resolution to authorize solicitation of bids for demolition of unsafe building on Van Lake Road.
Resolution to accept resignation of a police assistant.
Discussion and resolution to accept the resignation of a justice court clerk.
Discussion, I'm going too fast.
Discussion and resolution to accept resignation of Greg Dutino, my confidential secretary.
And appoint him as a legislative aide.
Discussion and resolution to appoint Michael Nutrell at the position of confidential secretary to myself.
And discussion and resolution to accept the resignation of police officer
from the town official police department.
I present that as a motion.
Can I have a second?
Second.
Foreman, all in favor?
Aye.
Any minutes?
OK, privilege of the floor for general town items.
Anybody has anything to speak about the town?
Is it time to do it?
OK.
We got any new employees here today?
Michael, would you just get up and say who you are
and what your interest is in the town of Fishkill is?
My name is Michael Nattrella.
I am a recent graduate from Bingham University.
I am a lifelong resident of Fishkill
and originally East Fish Killed.
I've been involved in community since I was a student at John Jay.
And after finishing my degree in legislation
and undergrad degree with a specialty in law,
I decided to pursue a career in public service
which is what brought me to this position.
And I am hoping throughout my time,
If confirmed, I can prove myself to both you and the residents of this town, county and state.
That is all that I have to say as of this moment. So if you have any questions, I would be happy to answer.
So you're taking Greg's position. That's the position you'll be taking.
Big Inton Bearcats go.
What was that?
Big Inton Bearcats.
Okay, your kid isn't there, right?
He's got his child as a little knife.
Anybody over here with a question?
No, good luck.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Next up, Lay's on reports.
Well, I have no comments as of now.
None?
None.
Okay.
Next up is Lay's on report.
We'll start with Louise.
For the Rec Center I got a report from Mary Ann. On September 14th the seniors
enjoyed a concert in the park with homemade pizza and they sang along to
some oldies music. Today they had the second showing of the new Elvis movie
on our inflatable movie screen which was inside the Rec Center and they
enjoyed chicken parm and salad for lunch. On the 27th they will be going to
the Wine Creek Casino which is already sold out. On October 6th they will
to have a harvest festival where line dancing
will be taught along with a luncheon.
On October 18th, they will be headed
to the Villaroma and the Catskills
to see Michael Buble tribute along with a full luncheon.
The senior holiday party has been announced
and that date is December 15th
with a snow date of the 16th.
It's $16 for lunch and entertainments
and sign up, start November 1st
for fiscal residents and the second for non-residents.
You can just stop by the rec center
and pick up a flyer.
Jay advised me that from September 14th to the 18th the rec center had the Bee Green consignment sale,
which is a huge consignment sale that had toys, clothes, furniture and approximately 3,500 people attended throughout the four-day event.
September 19th, fall hoops began, approximately 265 participants for upcoming events.
Winter Hoops registrations begin shortly.
The tentative date for the Fall Festival is October 15th.
He has two other items on the agenda that I'll talk about later.
The village official had no meeting this week. They changed it to next week.
The planning board, I'll discuss the agenda item later if that's on there.
And for human resources, Suzanne has been very busy.
I didn't mention at the last meeting all of the items she's been working on,
including hiring a latest account clerk who I've met
and seems to be very nice.
She's been actively working on numerous positions
that are open, including groundskeeper, court attendant,
police assistant, motor equipment operator,
and police officers.
We hired two after school counselors at the last meeting
and she continues to work at updating
all of the county paperwork that goes along
with all of the recent raises that the board gave out
as well as numerous administrative items.
She's also met with a new historian
and welcomed him aboard.
Good evening. A couple of things to talk about is our sensory park. The equipment has been
ordered and hopefully should be here soon. If anybody's not aware of that, it's an equipment
that can you guess, and Councilman, can you guess, and Luis Danielle, you've been working
on it last year. I helped Luis try to finalize the order on the equipment, so it's on
So if you notice that Doug Phillips Park also, we milled the whole tennis courts that are there and that's where the sensory park is going to be.
And also we're going to be working on putting additional fences all around the park there and also on many other parks that we're going to upgrade.
Also put a new little league fence in over there and some drainage work.
If you look out front of the town hall right here, you'll see that we have two signs that shrubs have been cleared around and new Belgian block has been put around.
Now you can read the sign where it says town of Fishgill. Supervisor had the grounds crew, Brian, Brandon and the rest of the crew had to take out all the shrubs and put a nice Belgian block curving around it.
So it looks really good. I just want to tell the guys good job with that.
Um, zoning board, there's no meeting, um, no action on the zoning board.
I'll talk about the, um, the water access at the, the Phillips Park.
Yeah, so, um, Brandon and, um, Brian and...
And the crews, they put, they used the millings from the tennis court and used the millings for a nice little ramp going down so you can bring your canoe a little boat down there until the creek.
And now you have a little access and a little landing. They did a really good job with that.
Thank you, John.
Okay, so we had a meeting with some of our fire districts with Councilman Rye.
I'll let Councilman Rye talk about some of the things we're working on with the fire districts.
I helped organize a safety presentation for our seniors.
Thank you to Mayor Martin, Supervisor Albra, Chief Dwork and Lieutenant Wood,
and most of all, Eddie Cologne for putting this together.
I thought it was a very productive couple hours that we spent with the seniors, attended
the 9-11 ceremonies in the town and the village, volunteered at the shop right for a fundraiser
to help raise funds for the Fish Go Food Pantry, attended a meeting at the Blodgett Library.
They are looking for people to serve on their friends of the Blodgett Library group and
we had our comprehensive committee meeting on September 14th.
Yes, I attended the same event at ShopRite.
Bagging to stop food hunger, whatever, it was just a good little emphasis.
ShopRite does, through the years, has done millions of dollars to help fight food issues and insecurity issues,
and I have to commend them for their work.
The fire district meeting, we're rolling into, I think, a number of items that the next meeting we will have, we will be able to then present specifics to the town board.
And there are going to be some issues at the county level and also the state level.
But the most important thing is that we did get a list of the web pages, right Greg?
And we're going to be posting those on our web page and our Facebook.
And this is a part of why we engage with them is to help get the information out there from
the districts to help with the next generation of volunteers, which is extremely critical.
What's the status on that, please?
Well, that is something which is on our to-do list for this week.
We're going to be including information on that in our weekly eGov, which goes out
on Friday.
And they will be posted to our social media page and our town website in the next
couple of days, a project that I intend to include my successor in.
So part of the process of getting him up to speed.
Pay attention, success art.
All right, this is important.
And I will tell you, I'm going to bring this up right now.
We're going to have to have a discussion in the future
about using the rec sign on 52 at appropriate times
to help the fire districts when
it comes to recruitment and other important announcements.
It's a little too exclusive, and I think we can share,
but we'll talk about that as a board.
I think that'll be important to do.
We had a meeting with the highway department just
recently and getting ready for the budget time and I think we've got things
pretty much leveled out and we'll talk about that a later time. Yes we had a
comp-plant meeting and I think it's going to be great we'll be wrapping that up at
the end of the year and yes we had a nice little ceremony for 9-11 here and
in the village was happy to be there as well. Last night Vets committee will
be wrapping up that mailing very soon so we can send that out and we're
going to need to do a banner for them when we have certain events such
which is the one that's coming up in December.
Thank you.
So what do you wanna do with this?
You wanna use a recruiting for the recreation sign?
Is that a discussion that we're gonna have?
Well, at some point I want to, you know,
cause it's important to keep bringing up
and I think we should be able to share for
what time they're doing recruitment.
But it's the rec center sign
that they use for the rec center.
So I think we do need to discuss it more
cause I think it should be for the rec center.
I'll teach you to put that on the agenda
for the next meeting.
Yeah.
Sir, at the door.
You're a new employee?
No, I'm just saying hi to my brother.
Okay.
Just checking.
Welcome.
Next up is a presentation, New York State Drinking Water Source Protection Program.
Greg, can you give the residents official on the town board a little brief synapses of the great things that we're doing?
Absolutely.
Good evening, Supervisor, Council Members.
I currently serve as the Secretary to Supervisor Albra and for more than a year I've also served as a representative on behalf of the town for a state-run initiative called the Drinking Water Source Protection Program, also known as DWSP2.
As the name implies, DWSB2 is a program designed to help municipalities assess their drinking water systems,
identify source water areas and potential risks and threats to water quality,
and then devise and implement strategies to mitigate risk, protect and improve the quality of drinking water provided to residents.
The town chose to do this because water quality is a concern for any conscientious municipality.
The town of Fishgill has more than 3,600 municipal water connections providing service to more than 11,000 residents.
The town has various water quality concerns, chief among them is high chloride levels in water in our well areas due to road salt.
According to our water operators, these high levels could, if not addressed, potentially lead to the future need to purchase expensive equipment that would be very costly to town taxpayers.
And the town very wisely chose to do everything in its power to protect our drinking water sources before widespread remedial actions are necessary.
Well, as you can imagine, this is a very extensive process.
It requires considerable study and engineering review by experts,
as well as a number of meetings with stakeholders to ensure that the resulting plan is prepared
and most accurately reflects the current condition of town water systems
and the best practices needed to meet our goal of a sustainable supply
of affordable, high-quality drinking water for the residents of Fishkill.
So for the past year, myself, Supervisor Albra,
Paul Bozek, one of our town project managers, and our water system operator, Mike Trempert
from Camo Pollution Control, have been meeting and working on this program with technical
assistance providers supplied by New York State through Barton and LaJudice, namely
through Ecologic and H2M Architects and Engineers.
I'm sure that what I've just described to you all sounds very expensive, so here's
the first piece of good news.
DWSP2 is free for participating municipalities, means that all of the technical assistance
that we've received so far for this program has been at absolutely no cost to fish-kill
taxpayers. Based on the scope of the work performed and the man hours involved by more
than a dozen different engineers across a variety of disciplines, the town has received
in excess of $140,000 of engineering services entirely free of charge. Here's the second
piece of good news. The program is now, largely, complete. More than a year of meetings,
GIS data review, stakeholder discussions, risk analysis, and strategizing have culminated
in a completed DWSP-2, which has been submitted to the state for their review.
We're not expecting much from the state by way of feedback and anticipate that confirmation
of their approval of our plan should be submitted to us around the end of the month, meaning
that as early as next month, the Town Board can vote to accept this DWSP-2 report and
further codify it in our Town Comprehensive Plan.
Doing so will bring to completion a lengthy and thorough process designed to protect
and improve water quality in the town of Fishkill.
This process includes revisions to Town Code adopted last year, the adoption of an aquifer protection overlay district last fall,
and the ongoing comprehensive plan update which council members Foreman and Ry are involved in.
By carefully ensuring each of these actions reference and build on the others, we create a strong network of protections
which will be very difficult to undo in the future.
And by engaging in public information and outreach initiatives, we can also make sure that residents know about the importance of water quality protection
and understand best practices for themselves when it comes to water source protection.
And here is the final piece of good news.
Being a DWSP2 community gives the town a fish kill and edge in the future when we apply for grant funding.
Fewer than 50 municipalities in the state of New York are DWSP2 communities, including less than half a dozen in Duchess County.
If the town board adopts this plan and incorporates its goals into our comprehensive plan as we continue updates to that document,
The town can demonstrate that future water system and water quality projects are consistent
with the goals outlined in DWSB2.
This will result in a higher assessed score by New York State reviewers when they go through
the process of reviewing applications for grant funding, and that will put us at the
front of the line, so to speak, when it comes to obtaining grant funds for water
protection and municipal water projects.
Now I've given you a general summary of the drinking water source protection program,
program, why the town has taken part in the program, and the benefits that DWSP2 offers
the town.
But as for the specifics of the program, I defer to the experts, so please allow me
to introduce Lisa Rickmers of H2M and Liz Moran of Ecologic.
They are two of the technical assistance providers through New York State.
They've been instrumental in completing this program, and they will give you a more
detailed summary of the town of Fishkill, DWSP2.
Thank you.
Ladies?
Good
evening, and thank you for having us to introduce you to the program.
discuss our DWSP2 plan with you tonight. I'm Liz Moran. I'm the one from Ecologic.
And we have a brief presentation. We might be mindful of your packed agenda.
And Greg gave a really great introduction about what the program is and its goals.
So let's walk through the program that you have in front of you.
This is tonight's agenda, so I'm going to talk about the process for the drinking water source protection plan as we developed it.
So New York State, as they unrolled this program for participating municipalities, they're calling it a pilot program.
And so municipal water providers such as your town of Fishkill that were awarded this funding,
part of the obligation is to report back to the state on what works well
and what needs to be tweaked because towards the end of this year,
the state agencies who have collaborated on this framework,
which includes DEC, Department of Health, Ag and Markets, Office of General Services, for example,
They're going to revise that draft framework based on all of the knowledge that they gained from the various participating municipalities.
So there's a mixture of people with surface water supplies, reservoirs, streams, lakes, as well as groundwater such as the town of Fishkill.
So that's been the feedback.
So our role as the technical service providers is to work with various municipalities,
guide them through this framework process and then report back to the state on
kind of any issues or challenges that arise. So we're going to talk about that
framework and but basically we're going to focus more on what did we learn
about your system and what does that mean. So what did we learn and then
And what is that, how are we going to focus efforts on protection?
As Greg said, this focus of the DWSB2 is really on preventing further contamination or future
contamination of the water supply as conditions change.
So we had a lot of hydrogeologists looking at the aquifer and doing some modeling of
of how water flows towards the wells
and how that's affected by the overlying landscape
and land use and such.
So we're gonna talk about that kind of what we learned,
what we found out,
and then basically what are the recommendations?
So because this is a planning document
that fortunately you're already poised
to integrate this into your comprehensive plan,
we wanna make sure that there's a lot of
institutional knowledge to carry this forward.
So we have a plan management team and then a brief discussion of next steps for you.
So here's an overview of the water supply.
Of course these are drinking water wells.
They're in two areas. Let's see if this cursor will work. Yes.
Okay, so we have what we call the Brinkerhof Wells and the Merritt Wells.
Yes, thank you. Now you'll see on this map that there are various lines that are important to kind of think about.
Some of them are municipal boundaries, so we have the town of Fishkill boundary,
and here we have the major transportation corridors,
but these lines around the wells are important too.
This is based on the kind of the hydrogeologic analysis
of how the water moves toward the wells
and the time it takes.
So these circles, the purple circle
is like a time of travel of about one year.
So water that infiltrates into the ground
in this purple area moves toward the water supply wells at that time frame.
But then water from this larger orange circle also makes its way into the wells.
So you'll see as we go through the actual draft plan that there are some recommendations for
potential protective and preventative measures within these areas
that reflect the reality of, you know, how vulnerable is the well to land cover or land use decisions and such that have happened within these two areas.
Can I ask you, how did they determine how the water was flowing? Were people in the field?
No, these were based on geological mapping that has been done in the past.
The data that we got from the water suppliers about the depth of the well,
the depth at which the well is screened, you know, how deep below the ground
the water actually enters the supply well, and also the nature of the aquifers.
We're going to talk about self, the porosity, which is the space between the particles, where's
the bedrock, where's the sand, that kind of thing. So it's mostly based on modeling. But
the modeling tools that were used are ones that are used by EPA and others as part of
the drinking water assessments. And that was one issue that as we were working through
the framework, we actually had a little bit of a pause in Fishkill because we wanted to
make sure that these delineations, which are really critical, were correct.
So we went back and worked a little bit more closely with the hydrogeologists from the
New York State agencies to make sure that kind of the assumptions that were used
in these models were reasonable because, of course, you want your model to predict
current conditions, it builds your confidence that it will help you predict future conditions, right?
So, good question. Sounds very thorough. It was.
Okay, so the DWSB-2 is not the first stab, obviously,
at kind of thinking about the water supply for fish kill and how to protect its quality into the future.
This is a brief timeline that shows that the town of Fishgills water supply has been online since the 1930s.
In the early part of the 20th century, Department of Health had issued kind of blanket regulations for what happens adjacent to water supply wells,
you know, setback requirements where you can store or dispose of things like
chlorides which we know are an issue. Recreation is not so much an issue for
aquifer supplies as it is for surface water supplies, but an annual
inspection of you know what is happening within the source water area, what are
trends in development, land cover, land use, transportation, and reporting back to Department
of Health. Then in the early 2000s, the Department of Health and the regional planning agencies
went through for municipal water supplies and did what they call SWAP, which stands
is for source water assessment programs.
And that was kind of a, okay, let's take a snapshot
and think about what are potential sources of contamination
for each of our municipal water supplies,
which was a really good exercise.
But those swap plans were done
and they didn't have any provision for being updated
or integrated into planning efforts
or zoning and land use decision making.
So that's changed with the DWSP2 and that's really been the focus of this new generation of planning.
And fortunately for Fishkill, it's coming at a perfect time to integrate, as we've been saying, into your comprehensive plan.
So the idea is that it's more of a living document.
It's not just a snapshot in time, it's something that will be some people tasked with making
sure that these recommendations are implemented into the future.
So we've been talking about the framework, the draft framework has four steps and various
tasks within those and as you look at the draft report, you'll see that the reports
are organized in the same outline.
So first up, you have to bring people together with local knowledge, the stakeholder group,
get them to articulate goals and vision for their future water supply because ultimately that helps guide the decisions
and also the metrics or things that we measure over time to see if we're making progress.
And then take a deep look at the source assessment itself.
So, look at the water system, as we said, you know, do the mapping of the aquifer,
do the analysis, do the modeling to show how the water flows subsurface,
and also do what we call a potential contaminant source inventory.
So, kind of similar to what was done in the swap plans in 2003,
but look at, okay, what might we worry about?
about either past spills or current land cover or transportation, salt storage things.
Given what we know about the map of the contributing area, what are potential contaminants that
we want future plan management team members to be aware of.
There may be some recommendations related to monitoring, assessment and reporting,
reporting, checking back with industries, you know, local. It's all, you know, it's
tailored to the specific municipality what the actual actions are. But it all flows from
your specific situation and data understanding. So then step three is the protection and
implementation strategies. That's okay. Knowing what we know, what are we going to do
about it? You know, how can we protect this into the future? What are the steps?
and then step four is the progression and maintenance.
How are we gonna measure it, monitor it?
Who's gonna be part of this long-term effort?
So the first task was to form the stakeholder group.
We had a really good group, as Greg I think was on all
of our, what do we have, 14 monthly meetings
or something over the course of the last year or so.
So we had representatives of the town.
We also had some local conservation organizations interested in helping us.
Dutchess County, the health department, was of course very important and key in providing
information and the people who run the water system, all that local knowledge was captured
in our stakeholder group and we worked together to establish a goal and formulate a vision
and Greg with his excellent skills in actual word smithing I think takes major responsibility
for how the vision statement came out but it has a focus on collaboration, you know kind
of regional agencies and neighboring municipalities, that our vision is that we've done it right,
that we have protections in place that are going to ensure that the town continues to
be able to provide high quality drinking water to its current and future residents.
So the goals that flow from that are listed on here as well as you can see it's also
in your handout.
So land cover, public health, public knowledge of where does the water come from and how
how the activities on the landscape potentially affect that, increasing reliability, and then
also keeping an eye on the future about potential contaminants, changes in regulations, things
that what we call e-merging contaminants.
So I'm going to turn this over to Lisa who's going to talk us through steps two and three
of the framework.
What's your name and where are you from?
My name is Lisa Rickmers. I'm from H2M Architects and Engineers.
We're based out of Melville, Long Island.
So it's important to just reiterate here that the goal of the plan is to protect the source water into the future
by identifying current and future areas of vulnerability.
This map helps us understand the land uses on top of the watershed areas.
It's a little tricky to see at a distance.
I don't know how your printouts are, but these are maps that are included in the plan itself.
But here we can see this is the Merritt Well area, and that very dark red is high-intensity
development.
The lighter reds are medium, and then the more pinkish is like a lower-density development.
The green spaces are deciduous forests.
And then very importantly here in the Merritt Wells, this is Route 84 coming across that area right through, and it's hard to see at a distance, I know, but there's the purple which indicates the critical area.
That's the part of the watershed where the water is expected to move within about a year into the wells.
up here where the Brinkerov wells are there's similar line a little tricky to
see and the critical area is here in purple and we can also see a wide mix
of uses up here I actually just went to the next slide that include some some
high and density development but more medium density development and low
density development as well as forests and water that are part of the land use conditions
on top of those watersheds.
From there, we were able to also, looking through databases and looking at the land
uses, identify a series of potential contaminant sources.
These are things that were identified that have already impacted the watershed or have
the potential to in the future.
The report for the Merritt Wells identified 39 potential contaminant sources and 19 of
those were closed spills, which is one of the main ways we were able to gather information
was from the database on spills.
Three were in the critical area and one of those in the critical area was closed spill.
In addition, the transportation corridors are identified as potential contaminant source and those are represented just by the roads themselves rather than a point because they encompass a larger area and can't really just be pinpointed but you see the road passing through those source water areas.
Similarly, we identified 71 potential contaminant sources within the source water area for the
Brinker-Hoffwells and nine in the critical area, as well as transportation corridors up
in that area as well that pose a risk to the critical and source water areas.
So now that the understanding of how the water flows into the watershed and what uses
are on top of the watershed and what potential contaminant sources exist, the stakeholder
group work to identify the priority issues for what the plan management team should focus
on going forward to protect the source water area.
And the first identified priority issue is transportation runoff.
As I've heard multiple times already, I believe chloride is a key concern.
salt from de-icing the roads, runs into, can run into the watershed, spills also
from the highway pose a risk to the watershed. So the goal is to reduce the
amount of de-icing materials entering the groundwater and there's multiple
solutions and strategies identified in the report including things like mapping
roadway maintenance, salt management, and operations facilities in the
source water area, intermeasurable collaboration
around best management practices and monitoring
of the source water area and the highways,
and promoting the use of non-chloride deisers
in the critical area, and best management practice
when using chloride deisers.
A second goal identified by the plan.
Can I ask you a question?
So if, let's just say in a perfect world
there's no more salt spread on the roads anywhere.
does this you know salt that's in the wells everywhere with it I'm assuming it
will eventually flush its way out and levels will reduce yeah it will be
diluted over time as well from more water without the salts entering the
watershed so yeah the that is but what's the alternative to salt they are
there are a series of non-deicers it's also could be done by identifying
find proper strategies and trying to limit the use
within the critical area, to the extent possible.
Also things like if there's salt sheds
or maintenance facilities that are within the critical area,
possibly relocating or checking and ensuring that,
monitoring and making sure that they're not
inadvertently contaminating the watershed are solutions.
This is the de-icing issue is one that many communities are dealing with.
I would say that every single one of the communities we've done a drinking source water protection plan for
this has been somewhere on their list of priorities.
So I do expect that there'll be a lot of resources for figuring out the best practices
and each community is going to be different in how to manage that.
A second goal that was identified is to reduce risks of existing
and future high-intensity land uses.
I want to make sure that the stakeholder group identified
incorporating source water protection in land use decisions.
In terms of existing high-intensity land uses,
some risks of existing residential communities could be
the failing septic systems, unregulated commercial
and residential development, composed risks to the
watershed and all these risks can be exacerbated by climate change, the increasing instances
of drought and severe rain can increase runoff into the watershed and pose more risks.
A third identified priority issue is intramusible awareness and collaboration.
The source water area, which Liz identified in that first map, extends across municipal boundaries and incorporates a state road.
So communication and coordination through across these communities is essential to managing impacts in the watershed.
And then a fourth priority issue on this slide is source water monitoring to track emerging contaminants.
Emerging contaminants such as PFOAs and PFOs are things that we expect to be requirements to be coming out in the next several years from either the federal government or the state.
And tracking and monitoring the development of those in the watershed so that you can take appropriate action and recognize if there's a threat that maybe needs to be mitigated will help you stay ahead of those.
A fifth priority issue was enhanced management of regulated potential contaminant sources in the critical area.
This addresses sources that we know exist,
large chemical storage and containers for instance,
where regulations exist to protect the watershed,
but increased monitoring and compliance may be necessary
to deal with existing fuel and chemical bulk storage tanks.
And finally, the final priority issue identified,
which really weaves throughout all of them is outreach and education.
Personal choices impact water quality decisions people make at their businesses and their homes
can impact water quality and oftentimes residents and business owners are unaware of the impacts they may be having.
Sceptics programs to educate about sceptics and system maintenance, the potential harm of pesticides and fertilizer,
the potential harm they can pose to the water supply by empowering by educating
homeowners and business owners you can empower them to embrace the behaviors
that will protect their own watershed and while it's kind of tacked here at
the end I think ends up being one of a very important one of the priority
issues. We're going to invite Liz back up because with the priority issues defined
and implementation timelines that are included in the plan, the next stage is
to is what we're moving into now which is to define the plan management team.
Thanks. So now you've heard kind of the what's the whole framework what did we
find out specifically about Fishkill and then the issue is you know looking
So that is part four of the framework and the first step in the kind of looking ahead part is the plan management team.
So we've had people raise their hands that were part of the stakeholder group to be part of the plan management team.
Notice that we have positions here and not people, not names in this chart.
And that is this concept of institutional knowledge and making sure that we have good transition
as time goes by for the DWSB2 so that as people change jobs or new people are elected
or appointed to key boards, there's some knowledge brought forward about what is in
the DWSB2, what are the recommendations, and what does that mean in terms of setting
our priorities. So, the responsibilities of the plan management team, in addition to kind
of developing an annual work plan to say, okay, you know, let's talk about what we're
going to do this year, you know, here are our priorities, what are our actions and
who's going to do them. Also, to prepare an annual report. So, the New York State
agencies, the Department of Health in particular, are going to be asking for status of the DWSP2
progress plans that will probably be rolled into the annual water quality report that's
already required from the water providers as well that talk about, you know, contaminant
issues and volume used, quality used.
So there will be a section in that on DWSP2.
So the plan management team will be helping with that and also as part of the responsibility,
similar to the water quality report, is to share that with the community.
So that's part of the awareness, education and awareness that Lisa spoke about as being really key
and one of the recommendations that threads through all of the kind of future actions.
So
what happens next? You've heard that the New York state agencies are reviewing your draft plan.
We expect to get their comments back because we've been working with them all along and, you know,
revising our submittals based on their comments from other plans.
were not anticipating a fairly smooth approval process.
Once their final comments have been made and addressed,
the state will issue a letter of approval to the town.
And at that point, you should consider a legislative resolution to adopt.
And then after that's adopted, you know, convene the plan management team
and start to think about the strategy.
Now the technical service providers will continue over a six month or so period of transition
to make sure that all of these data files and maps and modeling outputs and inventories
are transferred appropriately to the town so that it will be easy to maintain and update.
So we're not just leaving you alone, you know, once you get your letter from the state.
And then on an ongoing basis, the New York State Department of Health has created four staff positions statewide, specifically dedicated to DWSB2.
So they'll be there as an ongoing resource to communities as you're developing your annual reports and, you know, questions and kind of thinking through what the priorities are.
and keeping an eye on what the funding opportunities are for implementation.
So looking ahead, we always end with this slide about adaptive management.
You've heard some of the challenges that we know are on the horizon.
You know, changes in water quality regulations,
either the state or the and or federal standards for substances like PFOAs and etc.
Land use and development, you know, there's a lot of movement going on.
This part of New York, a lot of changes, demographic changes, population changes.
So keeping an eye on that and how that affects the protected areas.
So that, of course, that will be incorporated in your comprehensive plan as well.
Invasive species, just in terms of how they can affect the landscape, that's probably
more critical for surface water supplies, but it also applies to the aquifers as well.
And then climate impacts.
So we know that all those challenges are out there, and it gives us a sense of
why this needs to be a living document, and that was my last slide, so thank you.
Do you have any other questions?
Oh, Louise, any questions?
No, I'm good, thank you.
Yeah, I believe I do snow removal for living, and I think regulating some type of the sodium.
We have pretty much four types, sodium, magnesium, calcium, potassium, chloride that's put down on walkways, roadways,
And I think there's many ways.
HOAs, apartment complexes, highways can minimize their salt,
and it comes from the county to the state to even local.
And just regulation using less salt.
You know, a lot of the deicing companies are all about pre-treating roads.
Sometimes pre-treating roads, if you're having a 12-inch snowstorm, doesn't make sense.
It's about managing when you put down the materials,
materials because also the salt companies and the DA's companies want you to buy that
material so they always promote a pre-treating. I always tell my customers pre-treating when
done right is acceptable, but sometimes it's not. And you got to know when to use it. Temperatures
make a big difference. And late March, if you're putting down any salt, calcium, any
of those materials, that's when the plants are now starting to absorb those materials.
materials. The salt is being absorbed through the plants. So late winter is the worst time
to put down salt materials. So it starts with not just local municipalities, it starts with
the HOAs, home associations, department complexes, and citizens. If they're putting down straight
salt all the time, that's not good. Use solutions like a magic salt, it's a brine,
liquid beet juice that really helps.
It stops the breakdown of the salt, slower.
So it's about educating the residents
and educating the apartment complexes
and the HOAs that are in our town.
Exactly, those are really good examples.
And I know that the state is working on
some kind of guideline.
There's a task force that developed
from kind of the Adirondacks
where they're seeing a lot of issues
with salt contamination of groundwater,
water, surface water, and vegetation.
So expect a lot more movement on that.
Yes, and something that I was talking to the county, DPW,
they're also looking at ways to now instead of selling
straight rock salt as a state bid,
they're going to actually start now trying
to promote salt that has been treated with magic,
like a brine.
so it actually slows down, breaks down slower, so it lasts long on the roads, so you have
to use less product.
There's also systems that you can put in your vehicles in the trucks, and companies or even
in the town municipalities can ask you to regulate how much salt you put down and can
monitor how much salt the individual is putting down so you're not putting too much based
on the road temperature.
Is that something that Fishkill has, what do they call it, Dickie John's something?
I mean there are opportunities to really work on that but you're right, you have state, you have local.
And you have the ability to, you know, with the plan management team kind of hone in on what the priorities are going to be for your town in order to address this.
And it may be large initiatives like refitting vehicles with different technology
or it might be smaller educational initiatives to try to make some headway in terms of how
HOAs and other, you know, households being used throughout the community.
With some of the grants, like for instance, I know there are systems that I just mentioned
that we can put in each truck.
Some of the grants, will they help some of the initiatives?
Maybe we can get a grant that would outfit a couple of the trucks with the system because
it's just like the water meter, how we monitor it.
It's a system.
It's an app where we sit there or be on a computer.
you could tell how much salt is being applied on each vehicle and how much it's putting
down if they're bursting it when they're turning or when they're turning and unloading
or tilting. It gives you all the information. It's a very good app. So I wonder something
like that. Would that be something they would potential grants?
I would think so. I mean I think or just as part of your kind of long term highway
department budgeting to start to move for that type of technology is another
option you know as as you look for grant support to help but to kind of that's
why the kind of the long-term planning focus of the protection is so
important because you can you know figure out all right if we have to
upgrade to plot trucks a year you know here's what the impact is on our
our annual budget, for example.
And the plan does have its project profiles towards the end,
does give suggestions as to the actual grants
and funding sources for different priorities.
So, you know, well, when you look at the plan itself,
there's a little bit more specific guidance
in terms of, well, as you're addressing these issues,
which places to look for the funding.
You're interested in joining the stakeholders group,
Corwin?
Sure. Thank you for volunteering.
John. Brian. Good. Any resident has any
comments or questions?
Nobody has anything else to say?
Well I'll tell you what I think, one lady came from Syracuse and the other
Steve. Well yeah, if you'd allow me to. I apologize, I didn't see
your hand go off. That's quite all right. So call on your attention to 4.1
the designated plan management team.
It says the role of the plan management team is to prepare an annual progress report to
share with the community and the ECBLH.
It also says it's to be responsible for managing the implementation of the plan.
What does that mean?
That means that the plan itself, the document has a set of priorities and recommended actions.
And so the idea is that the plan management team will convene and decide, okay, this is
what we want to work on this year, you know, by consensus or whatever, you know.
and
Probably influenced by funding opportunities and regional partnerships and regional initiatives.
So, just being responsible for saying, okay, we said we were going to do this.
You know, how are we going to phase that?
Well, the plan management team doesn't have authority to do anything, really.
I mean, they're not a legislative body. They can't spend money for the town.
That's correct.
So, they're going to make suggestions. Is that the idea?
Yes. This plan is not a regulatory document. It does not commit any of the parties or participants to taking a specific action.
You want the town to adopt it by resolution and add it to the comprehensive plan, though. Isn't that what we're doing?
Yes, that's what we're doing. I have no problem with them being an advisory board making suggestions. That's just fine.
It's just the board can't delegate its power to another body that's the town board can't so I mean as long as we're not saying that
I'm okay with it. I just want to make sure that's not what we're saying. It also says that
The mid-plan management team can revise the plan on a regular basis
that is one of the
Requirements suggestions of the
agencies working on this, that it just gets updated, you know, based on the emerging issues or...
Well, so the assumption is that there is going to need to be a local stakeholder group that is carrying the torch of this project, so it doesn't just end up on a shell.
It's true that they don't have legislative authority, but the idea is that they would
have the ear of the board, hopefully, and that then, if there was a legislative action
to be taken, it would still happen to meet the proper channels within your town government.
So if there's a recommendation for zoning code changes, you know, the plan management
team may recommend those to be taken up as a prior year, that's something we looked
at.
but obviously they can't change the zoning code
for the town of Fish Hill and it's meant to keep,
and ideally that the way the plan management team
is set up is it's intended to have members
of the board on it so that it is still connected
to the government of the town of Fish Hill
but brings together a broader coalition
to really address specific MVs, water quality issues
and to bring them to the proper channels
for then taking action.
Okay, so if I understand you and I want the words in your mouth,
sort of what you're saying is that the plan management team
would say, if they find it's appropriate,
that we want to revise the plan
and we're going to bring it to the town board
with our suggested revisions
and the town board would then adopt it.
Yes, okay.
And the assumption is that this needs to be
a living dog unit for it to be useful.
So if there's recommendations in the document
that don't matter in five years because, you know,
that Solchette doesn't exist anymore or whatever
that this recommendation is, well,
it's revised to reflect the new challenges.
If suddenly we realize that there's a threat
that wasn't identified here, that can be added to the plan.
All right, as long as that's what that means,
then that's fine.
So basically, Steve, what you're saying is
that there's gonna be a change to it,
it's gotta be a town board resolution.
Absolutely.
No problem.
You can't adopt a resolution, I'm good with that.
So if I understand, Mr. Gava,
But so it's like we used to have an environmental board.
I was part of it in a town official.
Just volunteers, just petered it out.
I served on that board for a year.
I think Brian, you're on it for several years, right?
About four.
Four years, okay.
So it's very similar.
I see to this, but this focuses on water quality.
So it's a board that's just volunteers
doing recommendation to the town board.
more like stakeholders. The stakeholders drive this. There you're going to be a stakeholder.
So a stakeholder would be considered a volunteer? Yeah. That's making a recommendation on behalf
of the town.
Somebody who's connected to the community, you know, the idea from New York State was
it wasn't going to come down as every community has to do this, this, or this. It should
be driven by the people in the community to identify what their priorities are and
you know what their resources are what what the best avenues for protecting
their source water is. Anything else guys? Listen one lady came from
Syracuse the other one from Long Island right? Can you take a picture with us
because I appreciate all the hard work you've done. Is it okay with that? Right?
Members please these ladies have done a lot of work.
I'm sorry.
Oh, you said see you in a minute.
Okay, great.
No.
You
just passed by.
Okay.
Thank you very much for coming.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Okay, we appreciate it.
Thank you.
Okay, our next presentation will be our Fishkill Business Association, gentlemen.
Hello, guys.
Hello.
Good evening.
Thank you for having us.
My name is Anthony Leprosky.
I'm the president of the Fishkill Association,
accompanied by Johnny Khan, who is our events coordinator.
I'll start with our mission statements.
Our mission statement through the Fishkill Business Association is to support the vitality of the businesses,
is both in the village and the town.
We believe in bringing businesses together
in a collaborative manner, only strengthens our community.
So our main objectives through that
is through event planning, supporting the community
in their events, but housing our own events.
We've done that through events this year,
such as quarterly networking events,
which some of you have attended,
so thank you for doing that.
And also, we had the fish fill car show
back in July, which was heavily attended
and went very well and then we have our upcoming event on October 1st which is the
Fishkill Block Party. So again hopefully we'll see everybody there. Our main
objective here today is to integrate and collaborate with the town. Historically
the Fishkill Business Association has kind of remained steadfast in the
village. We do have some representatives from the town but not as many as we
town to expand hopefully with your support in you know using parks and rec
other facilities as well as gaining support for from individuals from the
town and strengthening our board I think that's something that we need to
look at doing here in the near future as well but again overall just a
collaborative manner between what we do and bringing you know the village and
the town together is something that we're looking to accomplish you know
if we've done a lot this year coming out of COVID to rework the way that
we're kind of facilitating the things that we do.
One of which is our website.
We tried to make it a little bit easier,
a little bit more user friendly
in terms of gaining members exclusively through that,
putting members on things such as auto renewals
to help facilitate that year after year.
And again, it's going very well so far.
And again, our events this year
have seemingly been pretty well attended.
But again, I think this is a good time
to again collaborate with the town we're in a growing metric you know and I think
that's something that if we were able to again work with you and gain your
support through again in the near future would take off even further. So
again that's our main objective to speak with you today to see if there's a
collaborative manner in which we can come together. John?
No questions?
Well I think it's great that you're here and I appreciate it because
anything we can do to strengthen business and the vitality of business
in our community is great. Yes, there's two different governing bodies in the village and
the town, but there's real no separation in commerce. We're all really in this together
in every regard. So I'm really glad to see you here and I absolutely support you and
I'm sure there'll be a number of things we can do to help promote this. So thanks for
being here.
Thank you. We appreciate it, John.
What are the dues per year?
Currently, it's $50 for a membership dip.
Do you know if the town of Vishigal is a member of the Vishigal Business Association?
As of right now, they are not.
Okay.
Are we allowed to be a member, Mr. Gabel?
Oh, a business association.
I don't believe Ms. Palady can join.
Yes, or no?
I do not believe you can.
Oh, no?
I don't believe that Ms. Palady can join a business association.
Ms. Palady, okay.
Who am I?
When can I join?
Go to the website.
So it was very interesting. I have a whopping address. My kids go to Beacon City Schools and all these years I've been a fiscal business
20 plus years and I never joined the fiscal business association because the entity was always Village of Fishgill.
That's how we always looked at it. But John, when I saw you at the car show, we discussed this and I said it would be a great idea for you to come here
and talked to us. And I'm glad you guys came. There's something that John and I talked about.
We went to school since middle school, right, John? So I think it's a great idea. I think it's fantastic.
Anything we can do to help promote you guys, I'm all for it. Anything.
Because being a local business myself, I think it's important.
It's really not promoting this. It's really just getting a collaboration.
Introduce yourself.
Yeah, that's true to yourself.
I'm Johnny Kahn, I'm the events coordinator.
It's really just getting everybody aware of the local businesses in the town of Fishville as well.
They have no idea that there's a business association.
So I think putting that on our website, expanding it to your website, letting them know that there is an organization.
We can do events, we can get feedback, we can get some participation from the general public as well.
Residents, local residents, something they'd like to see.
Again, it's really for the community, not just supporting us, it's us as a whole person.
Something Supervisor, when we were doing budgets, we were talking about doing a town guide.
We're trying to start a town guide similar to what Wappagers does, and we want to do
something like that to help promote something like the Fiscal Business Association, local
businesses, and get them involved.
If you recall not too long ago, maybe 10, 12 years ago, we used to have the Southern
in Dutch's Chamber of Commerce.
They dissolved that.
Well, maybe we can start our own little entity here
and make it really pop and have some representative down here
in southern part of the county.
Yeah, because it's really not subjected to the village.
And our problem was it says, fish kill.
Not the village of fish kill.
And that it's been stagnant so long in the town,
we feel that we'd like to gain,
as Anthony was saying, momentum support.
Have some members join to really expand
on this organization.
Yes, thank you guys, Louise.
So what is the website for everybody at home to know?
FishkillBusinessAssociation.org.
Dot com, dot com.
So fishkillbusinessassociation.com for the people at home.
So and what else do you think that we can do
to help you network?
So are you looking for us to like maybe put it out
on an EGov or say something like that?
If we can spread it right through the town as well
and then just utilize some of the facilities we have
like Anthony was saying, for some of the events we want to do, we can get, you know, maybe
use the rec center, do some of the, you know, three or four parks that we have. Just to get
events, you know, we have a lot of different events we want to put together, but now we're
limited because everybody thinks it's the village of fish go, but it's really the
technical, you know, the fish association. So we'd like to, you know, be able to utilize
some of the spaces that you have, or we have per se, anything we can do. Yeah,
I think it's a good idea. Yeah. All right. Listen, can we take a picture
Make sure you guys, like we did before, this way we can put it on our ego that you guys
came.
Come on, guys.
That's just a good way to have a nice day.
Right here.
One gathering.
Yes.
I think the town has this.
So we've got that.
I know.
I want to leave.
I think they're right here.
Good.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
Good to see you again.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you so much.
So we're going to discussions, the first discussion will be psychological evaluations for police department and that will segue into number two the testing.
We agree to anybody that hasn't taken a test is going to take a test.
Everybody okay with those two?
Yep.
Any questions?
Is there a resolution consent?
That
number three discussion or resolution to set the tenant of the 2023 town board meeting schedule.
We made John asked for a change.
We made it.
Any other questions from anybody else?
No, we switched to summer ones as well.
We did, but we switched to summer.
Okay. Number four. What did you say? What did we do? We made the summer meetings one per month and second two. Number four, discussion of resolution modifying the 2022 adopted budget for the HR director. Everybody okay with that? Next step is discussion of resolution to waive the application for the Roundabout Fire Company. They want to build a sign like we have in front of the rec center.
at the new firehouse, and they asked us to waive the fee for that, the application fee.
That's what that's about. Everybody okay with that?
That's just for the application, not for the consultants, right?
Correct.
Is that the same type of sign that they have, you know, for the LED kind of sign?
Next up, a discussion to authorize a grant application for the court.
Everybody okay with that?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, number seven discussion of resolution for
that just counting intermissible agreement of snow removal and ice control services.
Carmen can you give us a little update on how this happened?
So we didn't have a supervisor made a motion to accept the contract and
no one made a second on the motion.
So it was defeated because we felt that the price was too low.
We were getting $5,200 per mile to maintain county roads that are within our surrounding
area of our areas that we actually plow. So it makes sense for our municipality to actually
plow those areas. I thought it was low. I talked to highway members thought that was low
So the county agreed to bring it up to $5,600 a mile.
So it gives us a little bit more money, which is more agreeable.
And not only did that, we fighting them to go to $5,200 to $5,600 a mile, they did it across the whole county.
So us fighting and rejecting that actually set precedent throughout the whole county.
So the other municipalities can thank us later.
Okay, thank you, Cormorant.
Thank you, John, for working on that.
Thank you, Brian, for working out with the Highway Department.
I just want to say thank you to Carmine, too, because if it wasn't for your negotiating skills, I don't think it would have happened when you're making the town, making the county pay the town for what they should.
Good job.
Great job.
Yeah.
Very good job.
Number eight, discussion and modification of the rect budget for basketball.
Everybody okay?
Yeah, I have just one thing that Jay said.
Sure.
Let's see, basketball budget amendment, they increased registration this year which led to increased expenses and salary supplies and referees.
We also brought in about $43,000 plus more than are usually planned so we have the quote extra revenue to justify the increase in the expenditure lines.
That's good.
That's what you said.
Everybody okay?
Sure.
Next one, number nine, discussion of levion paid water and sewer district charges and fees.
So this happens every year. People will pay their water bills.
We got to put this on the town website. And if they don't pay it, it goes on their
private tax bill. And that has been posted to the town
website. You can access it from the home page. It's under latest news. Yes.
And lots of people just don't pay it. They just pay it with their tax bill.
So, are we okay with it? Yeah, sure.
Number 10, discussion.
Yeah,
discussion. So close it.
Next one up is Discussion of Resolution of Authorized Grant Application or Creation Department.
I have one more from Jay.
Sure.
So Jay advised me that the Workforce Grant, Lauren came across another grant offered through the New York State Office of Family and Children Services.
The grant is used specifically for the workforce. 75% of it needs to be applied to workforce at our after school programs while the other 25% can be used towards supplies and special vendors.
A vast majority of the grant we received at the end of last year is being spent on staff
salary and retention bonuses.
Our plan is to use all or most of this workforce grant, if awarded to us, towards the salary
and retention bonuses.
This will free up some of the money from the first grant to continue to offer the
program at a reduced rate through the rest of the school year.
It also allows us to hire more special vendors, i.e., balloon artists, martial
arts, music, theater, artists, reptile man, and purchase for upgraded supplies.
We do not know how much money we will receive if we get anything, but they're giving it a try.
I think it's great, because like I said, I personally know people who have benefited from this,
and to be able to continue it and have the people save money is an outstanding job.
Everybody okay with that?
Yes.
All right, since that, go on there.
The next one up is a discussion of affordable housing for disabled veterans and volunteer firefighters.
years. So I keep thinking and everybody watching for the last two and a half years, I'm trying
to figure out what to do with this affordable trust money. And one of our things with our
stimulus money is that we're going to knock down the old water tower across the land
on 9D. That's going to give us a nice acre of land. Anybody interested in maybe building
some affordable apartments for veterans or volunteer firemen?
Mr. Gaba?
Mr. Gaba, he says we can't do that other.
Well, we probably can't do it.
What if we build some for some volunteer firemen and rent it to them?
Can we do that?
Well, what you'd have to do, I've researched the issue further
and I've contacted the Association of Towns
to discuss what it is a municipality can do
in terms of housing particular classes of people,
such as first responders, volunteer firemen, veterans.
And the answer that I've gotten back
is that if you want to establish affordable housing,
it has to be offered across the board.
You can prioritize who gets the affordable housing
by the point systems,
such as you already have in your code,
but you can't say we're going to,
even if you graded the town housing authority,
we're going to build housing just for the veterans,
just for volunteer firefighters.
It just can't be done.
Now they've provided me with a number of citations
to materials on what can be done, it may not be exactly what you want, but it may be
closer on preparing a memo that I'll submit to the board, maybe that'll give you some
ideas as to how to proceed, but you are not going to be able to, whether you incentivize
it through private development or you undertake a housing authority and offer it through
the town to provide housing just for veterans or volunteer firemen.
Great.
Thank you for continuing to look into that.
I appreciate that.
the dollar amount that we have is one point it's got it's over a million maybe
one point one yeah that could be one point two soon so I mean that could be
observed so fast in building something right well if we got one acre of land we
take down the water tower it's relatively flat and there's water and sewer
right next to it so I'm not saying we build anything elaborate maybe like
you know some studio apartments and every so often we add to it we probably
or maybe 10, 15 in there?
So Mr. Supervisor, if I may, I think-
This is brainstorming.
I like your enthusiasm.
I think it's a great idea, but conceptually,
us being landlords as a town,
it's just not gonna work out.
I've been the landlord, it's very hard work.
People don't pay the rent, turn over and not pay.
It's a whole thing who maintains the property
and we have to, there's a whole slew of issues
But I think what you're thinking is going in the right direction, but I disagree with us being a landlord.
Okay.
Fair enough.
So we'll wait for Mr. Gabba's memo to see what we can do.
Yeah.
Very frustrating. We have money to do some good things and we just can't do it.
That's what frustrates me.
We have $1.2 million in there.
Close, yeah.
Yeah, and we got to spend it on that.
Just close it.
If you're going to talk about it again, we should close it.
Oh, Mr. Gabba's going to give us-
It wouldn't be similar to these two things.
What I'd suggest is wait until I give you the memo
and then you can add it on for discussion item again.
Okay, so give it two months.
Okay, we got it, thank you so appreciate it.
All right, next up is the signs,
to make the signs bigger,
this is just linger in here,
we gotta do something with this.
So I spoke to Mr. Cantor,
who's the chairman of the planning board.
He finally got a chance to speak to the people
on his board because they've had really busy meetings
and he said they didn't really have strong feelings
one way or another about it. They thought it would be difficult to make the lettering bigger.
They think it's a good idea, but it's not anything that they're jumping up and down for,
so I would just say close it for now.
Close it, Becky. Thank you.
Next up is approvals of the floor for agenda items.
Anything that was on the agenda, you can speak about the agenda.
Anybody want to speak? Nothing? Speak about anything.
Anything. If my time, anything.
I just want to, since I saw Anne here, we're up to 31 as of today.
Explain it.
Oh.
The cat spay neuter program voucher.
Yeah.
So why don't you give a little presentation.
What do you mean?
Go out there and say what's going on.
No.
No?
31.
How much money?
That was it.
That was the presentation.
That was a good one.
All right. How many work can we do?
Nine more.
Nine.
Oh, 40 was the total. Okay.
We were allowed 40, $500 at 25 apiece.
And so far I've sold 31 through the end of the year.
But you, I'm hopeful in the budget we passed to do another $500 for 2023.
I remember.
So people are loving it.
Great.
We got it.
It'll be in the budget.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, come on up, Ann.
Thank you.
Yeah, you know, Ann Legoy, I run Stray Help
and advocated, obviously, for the Spaniard program.
So I am happy to hear that it was voted in again
for next year.
I thought it was actually $1,000,
but maybe it says it's $1,000.
I thought it was, but I haven't realized it.
Where did we start this year?
What did we do this year?
So this year it was $500 and I think it was up for next year.
So this year the $500 was matched by $500 from an organization over in Orange County.
It was more of a professional courtesy to me really and a desire for her to expand
this program and kind of light a fire under some of the municipalities to get
this program going so you know in my mind I'm thinking okay now that you have
allotted another thousand dollars which is amazing and thank you the question of
course comes up who's going to match that thousand dollars I'm talking about
next year. So it's $500 and not $1,000. What did we discuss? We discussed
doubling it. Well, regardless of what it is, you know, what comes to mind for me is,
okay, well now who's going to match that? And you know, it was actually the
question came up to me that maybe Stray Health would match that. And I did
take it to my board and it was a resounding no and this is why. We already dedicate thousands
of dollars for Fishkill and in fact just several weeks ago we discovered a horrific situation
where there was a hoarder that sold their property right here in Fishkill, sold their
property and the new property owner essentially just let these animals outside. So now
we're trying to backtrack and meanwhile cats will migrate and you know they
need to find food so we're trying to essentially train these cats to come so
we can trap them and spay and neuter them so that we can get this under
control so stray help is footing that bill you know that's not the town
that's footing that bill so I how many how many cats were there in that
I'm told upwards of 30 so I just discovered actually two kittens from
one of them one of the cats that we spayed was newly lactating so she's got
a litter someplace so we had to return her you know I mean it's it just
exponentially can grow so these 30 cats can become 100 cats within a year so
So that being said, Stray Help volunteers serve this community and we do not plan on
matching, you know, the funds that the town would put in because we certainly give more
money than the town gives.
So to add, to match that, I think it would, our board said no.
So you have suggested any suggestions of people?
So, yeah, actually, you know, if you want to keep the...
So the town's portion per cat is $12.50.
So at the end of the month, let's say, you know,
one certificate is, Tara, gets paid $50.
The town puts in $12.50, and this other organization
also puts in $12.50, and then the resident
then pays 25. So if the town wants to continue to pay $12.50, then you could certainly up
the cost of the voucher to the residents to $37.50. That way you're still staying within
your benchmark. You know, I don't think that you can do fundraisers per se. So I don't
know that that would be, although I have zero doubt that this community, if you were to say,
hey, we're going to pitch in $1,000, can the community also pitch in $1,000, you would
have that in about five minutes.
But you know, so there's, I'm not really sure what the legalities are of Mr. Gobbishing.
Right.
So, I mean, we talked about this.
So I understand.
It's a contractual arrangement.
The town can't solicit for payment of profits contract that's soliciting donations.
So I think the idea that you had was that $1250 and expand the other amount to the $237.
Yeah, or you can just do the 25. I mean, you know, it's, it's, we're talking about $500.
I mean, like I just said, we pay thousands of dollars just for fish kill every year.
And, you know, I've been coming to these meetings a long time and we have an animal control officer
who is a dog catcher, and there's nothing against this individual.
This is how the town has it designated and what they have, you know, the outline of what
this role is.
The situation with cats is years behind, and, you know, I cannot express enough to you
the mess just as an example of what that hoarder's house would have been if stray
health volunteers did not happen upon this situation and work our butts off to try and
mitigate this situation. So, you know, I mean, I see and agree with a lot of some of your
expenditures, but,
you know, I would like to see a little bit more support for animals
in this town, specifically cats.
And can I ask you a couple of questions?
Sure.
How many other towns are actually helping out?
Are they participating in this at all?
You are leading the way.
OK.
Monday.
How you make it out?
Are you actually going to other towns to try to?
On Monday, I'm scheduled to go to Wappendurbs.
We presented to the county.
And like I've said before in meetings,
I hope they catch up.
The program that I have arranged with that I
coordinated with the town is specific to pet parents, some colony caretakers, what
I'm hoping the county comes up with is really specifically for the TNR which
you and I have talked about that length. You see a lot of these
colonies that we've handled so those are free roaming community cats and
that's kind of a different you know it's hard to it's not quite apples
and oranges, but maybe grapefruit and oranges.
So what we're doing is we're actually leading, helping this out, which is fantastic, which
in your local resident who lives here in the town, you're also a local business, so we're
here about promoting it.
I don't see no problem in the town continue participating in this and making it worthwhile.
We did 31 out of 40 so far.
I see why not.
That's amazing.
and I can do another 40 for the same price.
So.
But that's important so you know that,
we feel proud that we are ahead of this initiative
and we're here to support that.
It's a good thing.
It did, it did, I have been kind of thinking about
I don't have access to municipal grants
or researching municipal grants, I don't think.
I can double check that with Adrienne's library.
But I do write grants and I'm in process,
as I'm in grant deadline, actually.
I have two of them due at the end of next week.
I have another one due in another two weeks.
But I think that really to allow this program to thrive,
grants are where it's at.
I mean, that's really, and there are grants available.
The ASPCA, which is a national organization,
does offer some grants.
Not a lot, but some.
So there is money out there.
There's money out there.
Thanks, Ann.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Next up is a consent agenda.
I present that as a motion.
Can I get a second?
Wait.
Second.
Hold on.
You got to be on the ball.
I'm telling you.
You get all candid up and you just forget about everything.
All right.
I'll do this again.
I present a motion for the consent agenda.
I can have a second.
Second.
Mr. Foreman.
All in favor.
Aye.
Thank you.
Next up is items for special consideration.
We've got a couple.
Let's solve the rock through these.
The results are okay.
The first one is the resolution to authorize the solicitation of bids for the demolition of Unsafe House.
That's the one on Van Wicklake Road.
Now, therefore, it could be resolved by the town board as follows.
Section 1, the town board hereby directs the building inspector zoning administrative to solicit such bids.
With scope of work for demolition of unsafe building at 448-450 Van Wick Lake Road with the cost of such demolition to be levied on the property owner for the unsafe building.
Section two, any other town official, employee, consultant, as directed by the town supervisor here by authorized and directed to take any necessary and appropriate actions necessary to carry out the provisions of this resolution.
Section three, this resolution should be effective immediately.
I present that as a motion.
Can I have a second?
Second.
Mr. Forman, all in favor?
Aye.
Next one off is resolution except the resignation of police assistant Daniel Seca.
Now therefore it be resolved the town board of the town official does hereby accept the resignation of police assistant Daniel Seca.
Effective of July of 2022 and be it further resolved the town supervisor and or his designate be in hereby authorized take any illegal necessary action.
If we carry out the provisions of this resolution and be further resolved this resolution shall be effective immediately.
We have to add 31 to July.
31?
That's a clerical mistake I can correct. I don't have to amend that or can I just make the correction?
Mr. Gavin?
That's fine.
I forgot to write the 31st of July.
That agenda is amended.
Present that as a motion to add to 31st. Can I get a second?
Adopted as amended.
All right. All in favor?
Aye.
Okay.
Carmine.
Further result that this resolution shall be effective immediately. I present that as a motion. I get a second.
Wait, what about you now?
Second?
Second.
We amended it, and now we're voting on it.
Second.
All in favor?
Aye.
Discussion of resolution to accept the resignation of Justice Clerk Josephine Scaferino.
So that's a discussion and a resolution. Any discussion?
Go right to the resolution.
Okay.
Now therefore be resolved by the town board as follows.
section one all where as paragraphs and incorporation here in by reference I set forth and full section to the town board here by accepts the resignation of justice court clerk Josephine Schadarino effective September 22, 2022 and extends her.
It's thanks and best wishes section three the town's supervisor in his designation will be able to take any and all necessary action to carry out the provisions of this resolution I'll present that as a motion can have a second second.
All in favor.
Next one up is discussion of resignation of Gregory Tatino as confidential secretary.
Are you guys okay with just a resolution?
Yes.
Now therefore it will be resolved by the town board as follows.
Section 1, all whereas paragraphs are incorporated herein by references set forth in full, the town board.
Section 2, the town board hereby accepts a resignation of Gregory Tatino from the position of confidential secretary to the town supervisor.
Effective September 26, 2022.
and further appoints Gregory Tatino to the position of Part-Time Legislative Aid, effective September 26, 2022,
to a schedule not to exceed 10 hours per week and a rate of 27.74 per hour.
Section 3 of Town Supervisor and his designee are authorized to take any known actions necessary to carry out the provisions of this resolution.
I present that as a motion. Can I have a second?
Second.
Louise, all in favor?
Aye.
Thank you very much.
Next one is to appoint the new secretary.
You guys okay with the resolution only?
Yes, sir.
Now therefore it be resolved that the town board of the town of Fishgill,
January points to Michael, and the trellis as supervisors,
confidential secretary, effective to September 26, 2022,
and be a further resolved.
Mr. Trellis shall serve at this position at the pleasure of the town supervisor
and be a further resolved that the town supervisor or his authorized designee
be in hereby authorized at the right to take all the necessary actions
and convenient to get full effect of this resolution and be a further resolved
All this resolution shall take effect immediately.
I present that as a motion.
Can I have a second?
All in favor?
Aye.
Next up is a discussion and resolution
to accept the police officer resignation.
Section 1, narrow all above whereas paragraphs
are incorporated hearing.
Be referenced as set forth in full.
Section 2, the town board accepts
a report of the police chief on the personal status
of police officer, Dean Wakefield,
and accepts his resignation as police officer.
Dean Wakefield affected with the close of business
on September 29th, 2022.
Section three, the town supervisor or his designee,
be in here by authorize to take any of all
the actions necessary to carry out the provisions.
Now this resolution, section four,
this resolution shall be affected immediately.
I present that as a motion.
Can I have a second?
Second.
Brian, all in favor?
Aye.
That's the end of that.
Anyone all business, Louise?
So I have both new and old business.
For old business, I received an email from a citizen
who wanted to know why I voted no
on putting a police officer in the Brinkerhoff School.
I had no issue explaining to the person why I voted no.
But when I emailed back and gave him my cell phone number to call him, to call me, he never did.
So to clarify it, the item was not on the agenda for a discussion.
It was only on for a resolution. Had it been on for a discussion,
I would have had the opportunity to explain that I disagreed with the contract that was created.
I did not feel it would be feasible to find a part-time police officer to work four hours a day,
five straight days in a row as the contract was written.
And the chief was also asking to hire a police officer to replace that one that would be assigned to the school
Instead if we had created our contract to read as the village official PD did I would have said yes
I heard police commissioner Schofield explained to the village board that he had posted a schedule for police officers to volunteer throughout September
To rotate being in the school for the four hours at the school district requested
This would have given an opportunity for those who didn't work their 20 hours to do so and there would be no need to
to ask for a replacement officer.
He had the schedule filled up and didn't foresee
any issues having police officers sign up to work there.
So it wasn't that I didn't want one,
it was a way that it was presented to the town
that I disagreed with.
And if anybody out there has any questions
about the way that I vote, feel free to email me
and I will call you back.
I will meet with you, you know,
or if you don't want to respond back,
I'll address it at the next meeting.
For new items, we discussed at the last meeting,
Councilmember Van and I were in agreement and felt very strongly about removing the
.4% fee to pay the school taxes and the supervisor advised me that if I could find the money
and it wouldn't raise the tax cap that I could ask for it to be for a resolution.
So I did that.
It wasn't for a resolution this meeting, so I'm just asking the board if we can
put it for a resolution for the next meeting.
And I want to thank Sharon very much because she did a lot of hard work to look into
to this and find how we could do this and also to thank Carmine because without his support
he felt as strongly as I did that this is something that should be done for the citizens
that they should not have to pay to pay their school taxes.
So I'm just asking that that be placed on the next meeting for a resolution.
We have one more.
I'm glad you guys brought that up and I'm glad we're going to do that.
Thank you.
One last one.
I spoke to the Planning Board Chairman and he asked me if I could create a discussion.
So the discussion that he'd like me to bring up for a future meeting is to remove the provision
that allows the Planning Board to approve special use permits to allow use that isn't
listed in the table of uses.
So I'm just asking for him that we bring that up as a discussion and he wants to
come here to explain what it is.
What is this announcement?
What do you want?
What's he going to get done?
He doesn't want to vote on special permits?
He doesn't think that it should be in his form in the planning board.
So it was put in, I think, five years ago into the code, so he said he can explain it
better when he comes.
I'll second that.
I'll hold on a second.
So who's going to review that?
Oh, I don't know.
I'll discuss it.
I'll discuss it when he will come here and we'll see what he has to say.
Can a talent board review special permits like that?
Happens all the time.
Thank you.
So if you want to have this board determine whether or not an unlisted use is eligible for a special use permit
Or it's just not allowed under the code as opposed to the planning board
Certainly within your purview to do that.
Is it as a right if it's not in there?
We just deny a special permit.
This is important.
Right, well the section I believe Louise is referencing is a section that says
There's a whole bunch of uses that are listed as permitted by special use permit.
The planning board has authority to determine that a proposed use, although not listed, is
similar enough to those listed uses that it also qualifies as a specially permitted use.
And some towns don't like having, some of the zoning board make that determination.
Some towns don't like having the planning board or the zoning board make the determination
as to whether it's close enough under the zoning code they want, the governing board,
the town board, to make that determination.
And that's fine if that's what you want to do.
The reason it's placed with those other boards usually is because they have a little bit more expertise
in administering your zoning code and your planning regulations.
So they're a little bit more familiar with the terms.
But ultimately, this is the governing board.
If you want the authority to rest with the town board, you're free to do that.
He just asked for me to bring it up for discussion.
So I second it.
We can discuss it.
It doesn't say we agree with it.
Not saying that.
How about we have them come in and make a presentation?
There's no problem doing that, he said it would come, yeah.
So great, not the second, not October 2nd, because we're going to have the trooper come in on October 5th.
That's going to be a busy meeting.
So for the 19th?
Yeah, tell them we're coming for presentation.
Got it.
And tell them to give us like a half a page of what he wants to do.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay, that's it.
No more than half a page and you can come in and speak and let us know what he wants to do.
Okay.
Understood.
Okay.
Thank you.
Did I already do you?
You're done.
I'm good.
They're good.
I'm good.
Okay, next time board meeting is when?
October 5th.
Next board meeting is October 5th.
I'm sorry, yeah, I'm sorry.
October 5th, right?
October 5th.
Okay, October 5th.
We're going to go into executive session for a legal matter.
So I'll make a motion to leave the regular session
and go into executive session.
I'll present both as a motion.
Can I get a second?
Second. Carmine, all in favor?
Aye.
And we're not going to discuss anything or vote on anything after this, so see you guys next week.