I like to call this council committee meeting to order.
Before we proceed, I want to acknowledge that the land
upon. The story of the Adelante Ronc, the Hodenoshoni and
the Anishnavi people. We are the beneficiaries of ancient agreements
such as the dish with one spoon between the Anish
Nabiya and the Hoden of Shoni, who agreed to share
the abundance of the land through peace, friendship, and mutual
respect. The two Ro Wampum, by which the Hoden -
Nashoni welcomed the settlers and agreed to share the land
in mutual respect. And the Treaty of Niagara, considered a
fundamental document by First Nations in all future relations. And
treaties with the British. We recognise that we have a
responsibility to be stewards of the land in cooperation and
collaboration with the Indigenous peoples, not only for one generation,
but for all generations to come. We understand that we
have an obligation to learn the lessons of our history,
educate ourselves about the experiences of the indigenous people and
seek opportunities to heal. The wounds that will result in
reconciliation with our indigenous sisters and brothers. Many First Nations,
Mehti and Inu people live and work in Fort Erie.
We stand with all Indigenous people past and present in
promoting the wise stewardship of the lands on which we
live. We have the good fortune to live in a
land of such abundance, diversity and beauty. Let us be
vigilant in protecting turtle island. Mr. Clerk, the role call,
please. You worship all members of Councillor President. Thank you.
There is no, sorry, there isn't addendum this evening. It's
with respect to report PBB - BBB - S12 -
12026, which makes reference to. Be referenced to the Sunset
Clause, which was previously provided by Wave Amendment at the
last meeting? Correct your worship. I did circulate two councillors,
the amendment that was approved at the Council meeting. So
for clarification, we approved the amendment. We deferred the report
as amended. Right. So the note on the agenda for
that. And when we get to that in the agenda,
when we're dealing with that, that will be apparent. Correct.
Correct. Thank you. Just one announcement. I just wanted to
mention that a number of councillors, including me and the
CAO, will be travelling to Ottawa this year for the
annual association municipalities of Ontario Conference. We have a number
of delegations where we're meeting with ministers and parliamentary assistance.
We're meeting with the Minister of Citizenship in Multiculturalism. The
solicitor general, the Minister of Labour, and the Parliamentary Assistance
for the Red Tape Reduction. Agency. Tourism and Culture, Infrastructure,
Agriculture, and Natural Resources. I also received notice today that
the mayors of the eight municipalities, which are not St.
Catherine's NAGA Falls, Welled, or Lincoln, have been requested by
the Minister of Municipal Affairs to meet with him at
the conference to discuss the issues relative to governance in
NAG or going forward. Those will include the appointment of
the chair, the Strong Chair Powers, and the Voting or
Weighted Voting. So that will be very interesting, and I'm
very much looking forward to that. And we are in
the process of arranging meetings with the Minister of Infrastructure
with whom I had direct communications about two weeks ago,
and the Minister of Health after AMO, which you will
provide us with greater time to discuss with them the
important dishes that we're dealing with. Okay, Declarations of Precoery
Interest. Councillor Flag. Thank you, worship PBBS - 12 -
120 - 26. I'm the applicant where former Business Partners.
Any others. That takes us to notices of upcoming meetings,
and there is an open house scheduled for August the
18th. At 5 o'clock here in the Town Hall Atrium,
and that is with respect to developing a Community Planning
Permit System. And that will run, that's Tuesday, August 18th,
5 until 7pm here in the Town Hall Atrium. There
are no public meetings this evening. There is no consent
agenda, so everything is to be contentious this evening. That
takes us then to the first set of contentious issues,
planning, building, and development services, council or Christensen. Thank you,
your worship. This meeting of Planning Building by - law
services is now in Session. We have a presentation tonight
by Ms. Kimberlyn Smith with respect to the Draft Community
Improvement Plan.
So, my name is Kimberlyn Smith. I'm a junior Community
Planner with the Town of Fort Erie. The purpose of
today's Presentation is to provide an overview of the proposed
Community Improvement Plan, including the changes from the town's existing
CIPs, the proposed incentive programs, and funding approach. And the
next steps towards finalising the plan. The CIP is established
under Section 28 of the Planning Act, which provides municipalities
with the authority to designate Community Improvement Project Areas. Adopt
CIPs, and provide financial incentives. Relevant provisions of the Municipal
Act includes sections 106, and 365. 1, which address municipal
bonusing in Brownfield Tax Assistance. The CIP is also guided
by the town's official plan, applicable secondary plans, and the
climate change action plan. The proposed CIP brings the towns
incentive programs into alignment with this legislative and policy framework.
A Community Improvement Plan is both a planning and economic
development tool. It allows municipalities to identify areas where improvements,
rehabilitation, redevelopment, or revitalization are encouraged and to provide financial
incentives to support those objectives. In 4DRI, the CIP is
intended to encourage private sector investment, support revitalization of core
areas, improve the built environment and public realm and encourage
redevelopment and sustainable development. The main reason for undertaking this
review was that the town currently has multiple community improvement
plans that were prepared at different times and under previous
planning frameworks. Since those plans were adopted, provincial planning policy
has evolved. The town has adopted a new official plan
in additional secondary plans have been completed. The proposed approach
is to move toward one consolidated CIP framework that is
easier to administer, more consistent across the town and aligned
with the current official plan. Under the Planning Act, the
town is required to identify the Community Improvement Project Areas
where the CIP Programs will apply. The proposed framework identifies
six core areas. Bridgeway, Bridgeburg, Stevensville, South, and River Walk,
Gateway, and Crystal Beach. In addition to those six core
areas, the proposed framework identifies a town - wide brownfield
community improvement project area. The Core areas were selected based
on their existing downtown and Main Street functions. Opportunities for
revitalization and reinvestment, and alignment with the town's official plan
and secondary plans. The side provides the proposed boundaries of
the Community Improvement Project Areas. On the left, you can
see the individual core area boundaries, and on the right
is the broader brownfield project area. The Intention is to
provide targeted incentives within the core areas while allowing the
brownfield programs to apply more broadly to eligible properties within
settlement areas. The first program is the commercial building improvement
grant, which is intended to support improvements to existing commercial
and mixed use buildings within core areas. Eligible improvements can
include facade upgrades, windows, indoors, accessibility improvements, exterior lighting and
signage, as well as other site improvements. The proposed funding
is a matching grant of up to 50 percent of
eligible costs to a maximum of 20, 000 dollars. The
next program is the professional study grant, which is a
new component of the proposed framework. The purpose is to
help offset the cost of professional studies that may be
required to advance redevelopment projects. The proposed eligible studies include
feasibility studies, heritage impact assessments, servicing and infrastructure studies, accessibility
assessments, archaeological assessments, and other studies as outlined in the
program appendix. The proposed funding is a matching grant of
up to 50 percent of eligible costs. The sustainability and
climate improvement grant is another new component of the proposed
framework. The program is intended to support improvements that enhance
environmental performance and climate resilience. Eligible improvements can include insulation
and building envelope upgrades. High efficiency H - vac systems,
and heat pumps, solar panels, EV charging infrastructure, and green
infrastructure. The proposed funding is a matching grant of up
to 50 percent of eligible costs to a maximum of
5, 000 dollars. Brownfield sites are properties where actual or
potential environmental contamination may create barriers to redevelopment. The brownfield
programs are intended to encourage the remediation and redevelopment of
contaminated or potentially contaminated sites. There are three programs within
the proposed brownfield framework. The first is the Environmental Site
Assessment Grant Program, which helps offset the cost of environmental
assessments. The second is the brownfield tax assistance program, which
provides temporary municipal tax relief during remediation. And the third
is the brown field rehabilitation grant, which provides an incentive
based on the increase in municipal assessment following redevelopment. Collectively,
these programs are intended to reduce some of the financial
risk associated with brownfield redevelopment. Support environmental mediation, and help
return underutilized properties to productive use. So this slide summarizes
the main changes proposed through the updated CIP framework. The
primary change is the consolidation of the town's existing course
area CIPs into one coordinated framework, along with the addition
of the gateway and crystal beach core areas. Two new
grant programs are proposed to the professional study grant and
the sustainability and climate improvement grant. The existing brownfield programs
have been updated and incorporated into the framework. One thing
to note is that the Brown Field Programs do have
a different geographic application. From the core area programs. The
Brownfield project area applies more broadly. To eligible properties within
settlement areas. Whereas the other programs are focused on the
designated core areas. The Brownfield Programs are currently included within
the consolidated CIP, but they could be separated into a
standalone brownfield CIP if council ultimately preferred that approach. The
existing facade and signage programs have also been consolidated, and
the administration and application processes have been standardized. Finally, the
residential creation and intensification grant husband - removed from the
current proposal. This was an existing program intended to encourage
additional residential units within the core areas. The program was
removed from the proposed framework to place greater emphasis on
the town's Affordable Housing CIP. Stuff have since become aware
that there may be desire to retain the program. And
it can be incorporated back into the framework if council
wishes. However, it is important to note that it cannot
be used with the Affordable Housing Program. Overall, the proposed
changes are intended to create a more coordinated and streamlined
framework while supporting current planning, economic development, and climate objectives.
The Draft CIP has gone through internal and external review,
as well as public consultation. The Draft was circulated to
the ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing and the Niagara
region for review and comment. The ministry's comments focus primarily
on legislative consistency, document organisation, administrative procedures, and the Brownfield
framework. Staff reviewed those comments and incorporated revisions where appropriate,
including strengthening the legislative references, clarifying the program framework and
strengthening administration. Niagar Region's comments focus primarily on the Brownfield
programs, including eligible costs. Administration of the tax increment grant
and tax assistance program. Stacking and property tax requirements. Those
comments were also reviewed and incorporated where appropriate. On the
Public Consultation side, the town held a public open house
on May 20th. I do want to clarify one item
in the report. On page nine, the May 20th event
is incorrectly described as a statutory public meeting. This was
an error. The event was a public open house held
as part of the CIP consultation process. Two members of
the Public attended the Open House and expressed support for
the Brownfield programs, particularly the environmental benefits, of remediating contaminated
lands, and encouraging redevelopment within existing settlement areas. The Draft
CIP and supporting materials were also made available on Let's
Talk Fortiery. The page was posted on May 11, ahead
of the Open House, and the Presentation was subsequently uploaded.
The page has remained available for Public comments since then.
As of today, the page has received 98 views, 82
visits in 71 visitors. One written submission was also received
by staff yesterday. Staff reviewed the comments and have provided
a response to the applicable items. Overall, the comments received
through the agency review and Public Consultation have been considered
an incorporated into the revised draft where appropriate. From a
financial perspective, the proposed CIP would initially be funded through
the town's existing Community Improvement Plan Reserve, which currently has
approximately 640... 646, 000 dollars available. Approximately one third of
the existing reserve has also been designated to support CIP
initiatives in crystal beach during the initial years of implementation.
Based on the proposed program structure and anticipated grant levels,
the existing reserve is expected to support the initial years
of implementation. Importantly, adoption of the CIP does not commit
the town to a fixed annual funding allocation, funding for
the programs would remain subject to council approval through the
annual budget process. Staff would report annually on program uptake
funding committed and distributed program up and the remaining reserve
balance. This would allow council to assess program performance and
determine whether the existing funding level remains appropriate. Following today's
presentation, Council is being asked to provide direction on the
Draft CIP and the proposed Community Improvement Project Areas. The
next step would be to bring the project area designation
by - law forward to counsel on August 24th. Following
that, the final CIP would be brought back to council
on September 14th for consideration. The proposed CIP adoption bylaw
would then come forward on September 28th. Following adoption, there
would be the applicable 20 - day appeal period after
which the town could proceed with implementation of the incentive
programs. Staff will continue to refine the document based on
council's direction before the final CIP is brought forward for
adoption. That concludes my presentation. Thank you, Mr. Are there
any questions. Councillor Noise. There you go, Council Christensen. Thank
you for your presentation and all the work, the hard
work that went into this. I'm just wanted to clarify.
I know the answer, but I'm just going to ask
it anyway. The 20, 000, which is 50 percent of
the investment for the CIP program, then the 7500. For
the study grant. And then the climate improvement for 5,
000. These are all piggyback. They're not... It doesn't take
up any of the 20, 000. So in other words,
if they add an assault together, they'll have about 30.
32, 502 to go for matching funds. Through you, Madam
Chair, to Councillor Noise, that is correct. As long as
they're not applying the same eligible cost. And if they,
if I. Want more questions, if they do do the
study grant and they take advantage of the 7005, but
let's say they spend 1, 500... 15, 000 dollars on
it. That doesn't mean on the grant says it's going
to cost you 2 million to do it. They can
then back out. They're not committed to following through if
the cost or the improvement is more than what they
can bear. Through you, Madam Chair, to Counciloids, that's correct.
They're not committed. Thank you. Councillor Lewis. Thank you, Madam
Chair, and thank you for your presentation tonight. A couple
of questions. One being back to the crystal beach or
the map, maybe where it shows a different area. First,
let me start by saying crystal beach is very excited
to be taking part in this program. But it looks
to me that we're using the boundary map for the
secondary plan entertainment district and not necessarily the BIA boundary
maps. Do you know if those two were over late
or ever considered or which were considering in this. Through
you, Madam Chair, the Councillor Lewis, we considered the secondary
plan. Secondary player. Okay, and that was my understanding. I'll
bring this up later when we speak to the report,
because I would like to talk about Rebstock Road South
to Erie Road potentially being included. The other question I
had was regarding the residential intensification grant. Crystal Beach has
never had the opportunity to participate in that because we
never had the CIP for the area. I know that
it's something that council could add in if council so
wish to make that still be available to the community.
But I just want to make sure I heard correctly
that if that were the case, it would not be
able to compete. It would have to be either the
CIP Affordable Housing or the CIP residential intensification if both
were available. Is that correct? Through you, Madam Chair to
Councillor Lewis, that is correct. Okay, I believe those are
all of my questions for now. And if not, I'll
raise my hand again, but thank you. DeWish? Thank you.
Thank you very much for your presentation. I know that
the work that you've put into this. I just want
to be clear. The report suggests that this is our
opportunity to provide guidance to staff as to the program
that's being proposed, a joint CIP for all of the
existing core area CIPs plus the Brownfield remediation. It's tonight.
We need to give you guidance. I mean, we can
make changes later on. But it would be helpful for
you to have what our thinking is tonight. Yes. Okay.
So I'm going to start with the basic question. If
it's advisable to consolidate the CIPs, why do we still
have, if we proceed with this, why will we still
have a separate CIP out on its own? The Affordable
Housing CIP. Through you, Madam Chair, to your worship, the
direction at the time was because the Affordable Housing CIP
was so new, newly adopted. We decided to leave that
one out of this one rather than combining them. So
how does that fit into your comment that the purpose
of this report is to revive one uniform CIP framework
in the town? Wouldn't it be advisable to consider adding
the Affordable Housing CIP? And that will deal with an
issue that Councillor Lewis just raised. About at least crystal
beach area being able to somehow piggyback into this. I
mean, they can do it now. But shouldn't we be
having one overarching framework for all of these programs? Through
you, Madam Chair, to your worship, we could definitely look
at doing that. I don't know the answer to that.
I'm asking you the one that's done the work on
this. And it may be that there's a good reason
why the Affordable Housing CIP would remain outside. I'm just
asking the question based on the report and the comments
that you've made. Um. And the slide that you showed
with respect to key changes also made reference, I don't
know if you can pull that up now. Yes. So
made reference to rather than having different application processes, now
the standard administration. So maybe all CIPs aren't created equal.
And I would think that the core area considerations and
criteria, well, I wouldn't think I know are different than
Brownfield remediation. Which would be different than affordable housing. But
I think the objective is, and you can correct me
if I'm wrong, is to have a standard framework that
staff can utilise and can cross - reference if necessary
to the various types of objectives that are outlined in
the program. Am I close? Through you, Madam Chair, to
your worship, yes, I think it would be advisable to
have a standard CIP. We could include the Affordable Housing,
otherwise we could have affordable housing, the core areas, and
then Brownfields on its own. If that were the direction
that council wanted to go. So we can have three
separate CIPs or we can have. One. That's one of
the questions we have to determine. Yes. I know that,
sorry. I know that you've received comments from the Ministry
of Municipal Affairs and Housing and also the region. And
I know that you sent some information to us, uh,
maybe a copy of the letter from the ministry late
today, which, um, I haven't had a chance to fully
review. And I don't know if the other councillors have
seen it or not yet. And I know that you've
also responded to, um, faith Black here who sent, um,
a lengthy critique of your work. Um, some of which
I can imagine you would be easily able to respond
to which you've done. Again, I haven't seen that either.
The reason I raise that is because I think this
is an important piece of work that you've been dealing
with. And I think that when we get this, um,
in place, we need to make sure that it's right.
It's either, so I think we need to make the
determination. And I, for one, would like an opportunity to
be able to review all of the information that you've
had. Which I think we now have. Just haven't had
a chance to review it. Had a couple of other
questions. For the various CIPs right now, are there different
staff, um, review committees. So if it's a CIP dealing
with the core area, if I might, Madam Chair, or
it's a Brownfield remediation, are they different staff members that
are sitting on the review committee. Through you, Madam Chair
to your worship. Um, I'm currently reviewing all of the
core areas, the brown field and affordable housing in collaboration
with one other staff member. So an application comes in.
Just so that I'm clearing what you've said. An application
comes in. You are the person. With the assistance of
one other individual. That is correct. So you're the standard
framework? Yes. Okay. Well, it's good to know. What happens
if something should happen to the standard framework than where
are we. That's rhetorical. Um. If I might, Madam Chair,
just a couple of other questions. So you mentioned that
we're going to be utilising the existing 646, 000 dollars
that we have in the core area CIP. We have
an annual budget amount, I think, for that. That we
allocate. Um, are we doing that now or is this
a question that I should raise when we get to
the report. Through you, Madam Chair, to your worship, I
do not believe we are allocating annually right now because
of the reserve. The brownfield remediation programs, they don't rely
upon that fund of money. No, they do not. Okay.
And then finally. In a couple of things. Finally a
couple of things. So this is, I know my last,
last, my last, last question. In the appendix, it's clear
that there should be an agreement. So if someone is
going to make an application and qualify for funding, they'll
have to enter into an agreement with the municipalities, is
that correct? That was correct. There's no circumstance where they
will get money with out there being a written agreement.
That is correct. Okay. And then finally, this is my
file. In terms of payment, there's an indication that the
town may require an affidavit indicating that payment to the
subtrades has been made. We'll be not making payments accepting
compliance, I presume with a construction lean act. Through you,
Madam Chair Tier Worship. I don't believe that exact language
is in there. It's not, but it should be. Okay.
Okay. Thank you. Councillor Flag. Thank you, Chair. And thank
you for your presentation. Not often after when I speak
after the Mary still have something to ask. But I
do, in fact, tonight. Oh, did I miss a question?
Yeah. Well, I don't know. I'll let you know. It
might not be a good question. When it comes to,
um, matching grants with respect to, um, specifically the sustainability
and climate improvement grant, will this be net of other
grants that may be available through other government agencies? So
for example, right now the home renovation savings program grant
X number of dollars off of each window? Or will
this be an addition to unpaeable on the gross amount
of, um, of construction. Through you, Madam Chair, two councillor
flag. I believe it would be on the gross amount.
Um, I think there is language in the CIP that
talks about if there are other grants provided by other
organisations, but it's definitely something we can look into and
clarify. Councillor Noise. Thank you, Councillor Costerson. Just based on
some of the questions asked. In your report, you talked
about that the government needs to identify Corey areas from
the CIP, right? But yet we do have a townwide
CIP for affordable housing. And for Brownfields, how does that
fit together. Through you, Madam Chair to Councillor Noice. I
would have to look into how the Affordable Housing CIP
was drafted. I suspect there was probably a bylaw that,
um, designates the entire town as a project area. But
I don't know on hand. Basically does that. So I'm
just wondering what you said, the government needs to identify
core areas. Um, and going back to the mayor's question
about affordable housing, um, and the resiliency. Can't remember the
name of it. They revitavelment residential intensification grant. That hopefully
we will be allowing that one to continue. I know
I had to talk with Anamika earlier today about that.
And the Brown says, I can see how, how I
understand the need to have everything kind of like it
captured in one, in one report. But at the same
point, these two are quite different. Than some of the
other things that you've talked about. But I can see
them being, being separate for the affordable CIP and also
the Brownfields being separate from the others because the funding
sources are different than the amount of money that we've
set aside for CIP. Through you, Madam Chair, to Councillor
Noites, that is correct. Okay. Thank you. Are there any
other questions. That being the case, thank you very much,
Ms. Smith. And there are no other, uh, delegations or
presentations. So we'll move on to reports. The first report
under consideration is PBBS 12 - 1 - 2026 proposed
official plan and zoning bylaw amendment, adendam recommendation report for
19 Derby Road. Councillor Lewis has moved that report is
now on the floor for questions and comments. Councillor Noyes.
Thank you, Councillor Kristen. And I am going to be
supporting this. I did also read the letter from the
owner about his past practice and his desire to do
affordable housing. And that's his intent and that has been
his practice in the past. So I have a lot
of confidence, even though we can't necessarily put his feet
to the fire. He has a good history of doing
this. So I'm going to support this because we do
need affordable housing and we do need department buildings. Um,
I am concerned that it doesn't fit with the secondary
plan. It goes, it's not there. But at the same
point, I think when the secondary plan was discussed, I
don't think they were even considering Snack Townhouses as being
part of the options because it wasn't at that time.
So I am in support of this. And, um, I
do think it's going to be, I think it's necessary
to have those apartments. I'm also pleased with how much
he has changed things based on Council's comments. Thank you.
Your worship. Yeah. Thank you very much. I'm also going
to support this. The letter that Mr. Bremner provided to
us, which is part of our package, really outlines the
essential reasons why this is a good project. I know
that the neighbours aren't necessarily happy about having a three
- story building in their neighbourhood. But the reality is
a three - story building could be put on this
parcel of land in the form of stacked townhouses, uh,
which is not a housing style that we necessarily need.
We certainly, I don't believe need more townhouses, although that's
an arguable point. But what we definitely do need is
apartment units. And we need rental apartment units. And we've
had some tire kicking from some other developers. We've had
some discussions about, you know, maybe utilising our affordable housing
CIP, but we haven't had someone who's come forward who
has local experience building these types of units and managing
them. And Mr. Bremner has indicated that not only is
he intent on building these, but it's his intention to
continue to manage them. He also points out an interesting
aspect of the rental housing that we require. When he
makes reference to individuals and forderie who may move into
these units, if they own a home now, they'll be
selling that home. And that means we'll have some housing
on the market that we don't currently have. And there
are many, many individuals in this community that want to
stay in for degree, but they don't have the alternate
housing that will accommodate them. Being able to do that.
And so they're in their homes, their overhaused. And that's
housing that really could benefit a broader sector of our
community. So I'm going to support this. I know that,
um, it's not necessarily what the neighbours want. But the
proponent has been very flexible as council noises pointed out.
He has responded to some of the changes that we
want. He has tried to follow the requests of staff
going back sometime. And yes, an apartment building doesn't necessarily
fit in with a secondary plan. But I'm advised that
it fits in with our new official plan. And it's
a better and more needed housing type right now in
this part of town in any part of town than
stack towel houses. So I'm going to support this. Thank
you, your worship. Are there any other questions or comments.
Oh. Okay. Councillor Mike Dermon. Yep. Yeah. I just wanted
to just say that. I agree with every point that
the mayor is made. And, um, you know, Mr. Burner's
work in town is very well known. Right by fear,
he redid the, um, when he street funeral. And it's
a beautiful apartment there. So there's no, um, no deciding
on the fact that it doesn't do quality work. He
certainly does. And I think that this will be a
welcoming addition to Derby. Thank you. Councillor Dumino.
Yeah. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Um, when this,
uh, had come up originally, I had mentioned similar comments,
um, the need for apartment rental units. And I was
supportive of this. Although, um, I do want to, uh,
extend my appreciation to those involved for getting clarification on
the affordability aspect. That was good to see. The market
is a bit challenging right now because, um, later on
in the agenda tonight, you'll see that there was a,
um, condominium type project, um, is requesting an extension. And,
uh, anyone who's been following the news or following real
estate trends, um, has seen that, you know, condo development
has fallen flat. And, you know, this is an opportunity
right now to, at least in my opinion anyway, um,
really utilise some of the funding that's available out there
for, um, uh, rental units, um, which have been, as
the mayor said, um, big challenge in this community when
I, when I first ran in 2018, it was, it
was one of my, one of my concerns was that
we didn't have sufficient rental stock in the community, which
was forcing senior citizens to have to leave town to
be able to get a rental unit because they were
at a point in their lives where they couldn't maintain
the yard and the driveway and everything else of a
single family home. The mayor also, uh, raised a very,
very important aspect, which is the upward mobility in the
market. As someone, um, finds their situation changing instead of
being, for lack of a better word, stuck in an
unsuitable housing type, this will allow them to get something
more suitable, which then opens up an opportunity for a
family or someone else, uh, enter the market into a
home that's not necessarily new residential construction with all the
associated costs and everything surrounding that. So I'm, I can
appreciate the concerns with the secondary plan, but, um, you
know, as the mayor said, they could put stack townhoses
on there. I think it is much better for the
sake of the entire community to have a, uh, a
rental building go on that property. And it's an individual
who's familiar with the community who knows the community is
councillor McDermott said has done some good work in the
community before. And, um, you know, I'm tired of the
tire kickers too. So I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing
something actually, uh, materialize and to see us get some
rental stock in this community. So thank you very much,
Madam Chair. Councillor Lewis. Thank you, your worship. And thank
you colleagues for your comments. I do agree with many
of them. Um, certainly on this application, I'm intrigued by
the Affordable Housing Component and know of the developers good
work and the other parts of four area where he
has done, um, what I'm going to be commendable work.
And also his letter mentioning the CMHC Affordable Housing Component
of it. Um, this is an interesting one because it
checks mini boxes, um, for things that we're looking for
in the Community, not just in 40er, but in the
crystal beach neighbourhood as well. As I mentioned before, that
neighbourhood, um, as locals, we'll call it the top of
the hill. Does have a number of pre - approved
apartment buildings that have been built. As I mentioned before,
not to belabor it, we do have the crystal beach
secondary plan that is two years in operation that was
built by the Community. I do understand that townhouses or
where we're identified for that area. Um, at the time
we didn't know, um, anything about the term stack townhouses
or that new type of housing that developers would move
forward with. And I do agree that that would not
be in keeping with the neighbourhood as well. Um, that
being said, and I'll be brief, even though I like
many aspects of what this project speaks to in terms
of the attainable and the rental units that the community
needs, um, I am dealing with a community that is
a bit frustrated by the fact that we went through
a neighbourhood planning process to establish criteria that for whatever
reason now does not fit on that property. So, um,
even though there are aspects to the application that I
am very supportive of and thank the developer for moving
forward with, I am going to not support the application
tonight and go with the recommendations that would have been
following the secondary neighbourhood plan. Thank you. Councillinois. Thank you,
Councillor Christensen. Um, just a question. I know in the,
in the letter from, from the owner, he talked about
that he would not be using these a short -
term rentals. And I'm not sure if it falls within
the boundaries of our short - term rental boundaries or
not. I'm not sure. But regardless, can we put something,
it doesn't. Okay, I'm just hearing Anamikas on my next
question is, can we make sure it's in the site
plan that's not short term rentals? But like I said,
I don't need to because it's not within the boundaries.
Thank you. Are there any other? Yeah, I just want
to clarification. The last time we dealt with this, there
was an amendment moved with respect to a five -
year sunset clause. That, I believe, passed. I don't see
it. Here. This is quite streamlined recommendations this evening. I
would have thought it would have been better to have
it as part of the amended report since it's already
been approved. So can we not include that as part
of the recommendation this evening so that it's crystal clear.
In crystal beach. Madam Chance through you to his worship,
yes, we can definitely include that as a recommendation. So
that is there on record that this would, this would
have a sunset clause for five years. Well, I'm thinking
that when we pass this evening's recommendations that one of
the paragraphs will be the sun set the five -
year sunset clause, um, there was wording that was utilised
last time. And I believe it should be dealt with
tonight. That's, that's great. It was something about the approval
of the site plan application. Yeah. Yes, please. Get through
you, Chariot. And to clarify, we'll include the wording as
part of the resolution and the vote will be carried
as amended to reflect the amendment that was previously approved.
The amendment, um, that will be adding is the last
recommendation will be that the bylaw include a provision that
the lands revert to the original zoning if site plan
approval has not been issued within five years from the
enactment of the bylaw. Okay. So that will be reflected
in the minutes if this passes. Through you chair. That's
correct. Thank you. Are there any other questions or comments?
Um, I will say that I'm very impressed by this
proposal for a number of NI. I share the concerns
about the secondary plan. I was very, I've been very
vocal about that. I do have, um, just a couple
of comments about the point of order. You are the
chair. Yes. If you want to make comments, you're supposed
to give up the chair. Okay. Um, to somebody who
hasn't spoken yet. Is everybody spoken? No, no, then Council
McDermott. No, no, no, Council Market. You can hand it
to him. If everybody else has spoken. All right. I
just wanted to comment on the fact that, uh, not
only are they rental units, but there is a distribution
of one, two, and three bedroom units. The one bedroom
is, and we know about the discussions of the 400
square foot units that are so common in Toronto, uh,
and other large municipalities and have in fact killed the
concept of a condo market and have become short term
rentals. Um, these are family units as well as generously
size that would be attractive to people downsizing. Most people
going from a three bedroom house will not go into
400. Square feet. So I did want to point that
out. And I also wanted to comment on the owner's
letter, which to me, and I may have a bit
of a bias, but once again, it indicates the absolute
essential fact that affordable housing, truly affordable housing requires
cooperation of the federal and provincial governments. And I would
say beyond simply applying for grants, um, I think it
really points out to the fact that with a willing
owner developer. We still do not have a strategy. At
the federal and provincial levels for this type of housing.
And that's a problem. People like Mr. Bramner have to
compete with others for money that should be virtually given
as of right. Just wanted to make that comment. Any
further comments, questions on this. Now I'll call the boat
almond paper. Posey penny. Carried. Thank you,
Councillor McDermott. And just let me get back to my,
um, agenda. So, uh, the next, um, report is PBBS
- 38 - 2026. The Draft Community Improvement Plan and
Designation of Community Improvement Project Areas. Move by Councillor McDermott.
That report is now on the floor for comment and
question. Yeah. A couple of questions. So in terms of
the Correre CIPs, right now we're not putting more money
in through our budget because we have adequate accumulated reserve.
But what about, um, Brownfields? How are we managing that
from a budget perspective. Um, Ms. Smith. Well, I don't
know whether it might be the treasurer that can provide
better information. Oh, okay. Mr. Jansen, can you speak to
that? Sure, yes. Um, and, uh, I was a way
at the time of this preparation. So Kimberlyn may have
some more background than I do on this. But, uh,
in the 2026 budget, we did approve just annual contributions
only for the Affordable Housing CIB program of 200, 000
dollars per year. Uh, current annual funding for those of
the programs we've said in the report that we should
be reviewing that, uh, this year and every year in
terms of the sufficiency in annual usage of that. So
that is, um, it's just with the dedicated with the
Affordable Housing right now. Um, you know, I'm pondering
that, I mean, the suggestion is we're going to be
consolidating these programs, one of which is we have a
large reserve, one of which we're allocating money on an
annual basis. And one of which. Um, I guess we
wait and see if something comes in. So how would
we handle a brown field remediation application under this new
framework. I don't know who can answer that. I'm not
sure. Ms. Smith. Do you want to take a staff
and then we'll see who else.
With the treasurer and all that. The treasurer and all.
The rehabilitation grant is funded. Yeah. I would have to
come back to council with that because, um, we did
make a few changes, um, to our funding with the
2026 budget with some of the reserve contributions. And I
don't believe we have anything dedicated at this point for
Brownfield. It is just through that consolidated CIP reserve balances.
Madam Chair, before I'm willing to move this forward to
the next stage, which I think puts us on the
tracks towards a destination, I'd like to get, um, that
information from the treasurer, I'd also like an opportunity to
review the information that Ms. Smith has passed onto us.
I'm not going to move that we defer this until
August the 24th until other councillors have a chance to
speak. But I'm not really comfortable moving this forward without
that additional information and a chance to think about this.
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. And, uh, I agree
with some of the points. The mayor's made about the
additional information. And I too haven't looked at everything that
came through this evening. Um, I did want to throw
out there two things that I'm interested to hear if
what council's opinion is on keeping the residential intensification grant
that was part of the previous CIPs in place for
at least crystal beach. Potentially even for a period of
time, like a shorter window even that I would be
interested in, um, because I think that's part of the,
what we've been trying to do in the downtown core
and crystal beach is try and intensify the downtown core
with people living above shops. Because we haven't had a
CIP in place for all the reasons that lead up
to why we haven't this understandable. But I would hate
to see that go out without there being some opportunity
for the community to be able to potentially benefit from
that. The other is the inclusion of Rebstock Road south
to Erie Road in the CIP, whether that be for
the full period of time or for, like I said
before with the residential intensification grant component, maybe a specific
period of time. Mainly because that is a commercial core
that does have a mixed use of, um, residential as
well as commercial, but we do see, um, more commercial
opening in that stretch. Um, with the, with the properties
that I won't get into for the sake of time,
but I just want to flag those two areas where
I think we maybe we should have some discussion on
adding those components to it. Um, and those were my
only comments, um, and I do share the mayor's opinion
that I think we should take a little bit more
time to make sure we get this right. And also
not delay it to the point where people who have
been waiting for it, i. e. crystal beach forever that
they don't have a program. They can take advantage of,
but certainly want to make sure that all those opportunities
that were there for other parts of town still exist
for the one area in town that is our entertainment
district, tourism district, um, that brings the most amount of
tourists to the community. So thank you. Councillor Noyes. Thank
you, Councillor Christensen. I'm going to ask that we do
amend this, that we do not take out the residential
intensive grant that it not be removed. That'd be remained
in place with the understanding that it's either or. Either
they take advantage of this one or they take advantage
of their affordable housing. So you're proposing an amendment. Yes.
Um. You worship your second eight? No, no, we don't
need to second it. I want to speak to that.
Okay. Um, I, well, I just wanted, did Councillinoise, did
you have anything for the say? No, I think we've,
we've talked about. I think it may neither or. Okay.
All right. Your worship. So when that, um, when that
grant was first brought forward, we were trying to get
more rental accommodations within the downtown core areas to provide
some vibrancy in those areas. And that was all well
and good. The problem with it is that many of
the units that were created were not affordable. There weren't
close to affordable. And what we need is affordable housing
units. So my concern is that we continue to fund
something that's not what we really need, what we really
need is affordable. I don't know whether that means that
we should be looking at the definition of affordable in
our affordable housing CIP. That's an issue that was raised
by Mr. Bremner in discussing with us the challenges that
he's faced with. If he's faced with that, everybody else
is. I think our objective should be intensification for affordable,
or at least attainable units or something other than, you
know, an extravagant apartment unit that we're helping to subsidize
to be built, which really doesn't hit the market that
we're trying to help, which is those who need the
accommodations. So I can support this if there were some
qualifications. I can't support it without. And I think the
qualifications ought to be tied in with a definition. Maybe
not strictly affordable, maybe not even CMH C affordable because
additional rental units certainly will help. But something that is
maybe within attainable, or maybe it's a CMHC definition. So
I can support, um, in principle without being tied to
it in the final analysis or, as some of you
might say, I can suck and blow at the same
time. So I'm sympathetic. Some might say that, yeah. I
think the guy on my right. So I can support
it, but not unless we've got some parameters that are
tighter than just intensification grant as it currently exists. Councillor
Dubineau. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I'm of a
similar school of thought to the mayor. And he raised
a good point about affordable, which, you know, there's so
many definitions of affordable. There's rank gear to income. There's
CMH C affordable. Um, we're seeing now the phrase attainable,
which doesn't necessarily meet the definition quote unquote of affordable,
but is still very reasonable compared to market rent that
we see today. So the moving pieces and moving targets
to this that I do think we need to look
at. I agree that, um, we shouldn't be subsidizing and
providing, you know, taxpayer dollars to units that are, you
know, luxury, for lack of a better word that people
could, uh, who would purchase them could afford or to
subsidize them to make a unit luxury that should otherwise
be affordable. I think, um, I'm, I'm, I'm generally supportive
of this, but I think I get the feeling that
there'll be a postponement put on the floor to move
this till, uh, August 24th. I don't know if, if
councillor noise is agreeable to waiting until we get some
analysis and some information back from staff, um, to August
24th. Maybe it might be a better time to move
that at, you know, at that time, depending on the
information we get back, um, that's my thought on that.
Maybe we want to wait until staff give us some
information and some thoughts on the comment tonight before we
move them, uh, an amendment like that. And I hear
everyone and I tend to agree to, to a certain
extent. I know that I sit on the non -
for - profit housing. We have two apartment buildings and
we have two things. We have, um, year to income
and we have market rent. And I'm saying the market
rant that people pay in those apartments are considerably less
than what the market rent would be for all of
Fort Erie. So maybe there's some litmus test or whatever
we can maybe tie it to something like what the
region does in regards to market rant. And they have
everything from one bedroom, two bedroom, three bedroom, whatever. And
it's considerably less than, um, than what, if I was
renting an albony place or someplace, considerably less than that.
Actually, I think it's about 875 dollars. So maybe tying
it to something like that. Um, would make sense. I
don't know exactly where the cutoff is for affordability. What
dollars amount we're looking at with the range for affordability
would be. So I'm happy to. Pull my amendment back,
um, and have some time for snap to come up
with some suggestions. But I don't want anything extravagant. But
again, they're only going to be allowed 20, 000 or
four. 5, 004. Yeah. 20, 000 maximum anyway. So. You
had indicated that you were prepared to defer until. Right.
If everybody's finished commenting because I want to make sure
that, uh, Ms. Smith has. Want to make sure Ms
Smith has adequate feedback from us so that she gets
some direction, um, so yeah, I would, I would like
to move that we defer this consideration of this report
to the Council meeting schedule for August the 24th. Thank
you. The next report. We have to vote on that.
Oh, we have to vote on that. Okay. Sorry. Yes.
Um, all those in favor of deferring. All those posed.
That motion carries. Um, so our next report is PBBS
39 - 2026. This is the extension of the draft
plan approval of subdivision and draft plan of condominium approval
recommendation report for 3303 Dominion Road. Can I get councillor
Dubino that report is now on the floor for questions
and comments. Councillor Duvenau. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Um, just wondering if staff perhaps, um, want to offer
up some comment on this. It is a three year
extension, um, but I had made some comments earlier about,
uh, the, the condo market and how that shifted. And
I'm just wondering if, um, the developer is given any
indication that, um, they still want to move forward. They're
just waiting for better timing or has there been no
communication? I'm just trying to get, uh, feel for this
because I don't like kicking the can down the road,
but at the same time I understand there's a practical
reality that everyone has to face when market forces don't
go the way they intend. And, uh, I think everyone
should be offered an opportunity to wait for them to
improve. So I'm just wondering if maybe staff have some
thoughts. Madam Shed through you to the councillor, um, it's
my understanding speaking with staff that the applicant is committed
to moving forward, but it's just that the market situation
is not good. And that is a reason they have
requested an extension. Um, your worship. You're finished? Um, well,
so I did ask some information about this because we
didn't have an indication of where the developer is in
connection with what steps they had been taking since this
was approved. Three years ago. And, um. You know, they
submitted some, um, information about a little over 18 months
ago. They received a response from the town staff in
February of 2025. Nothing has happened since February of 2025.
So that's a year and a half that's gone by.
I get it. Uh, they're in, they're concerned about the
market. I follow that. But the information we did receive
from staff indicates that of the 35 subdivision conditions, three
have been cleared ate, they're working on, which means there's
24 still to go. The condominium, uh, application, the conditions,
none have been cleared. Five, they're working on. And that
means there's seven that still need to be addressed. So
out of 47, 31 haven't really moved at all. The
letter from the, um, planning consultant of the developer indicates
that they're actively engaged in trying to address these conditions.
Well, they're not actively engaged in trying to meet these
conditions if what we're told by staff is accurate. I'm
not really inclined to agree to a three - year
extension. I'm not even sure I want to go along
with two years, but the market is a reality. And,
um, I'd be prepared to extend this for two years,
but not beyond two years. And then if they've made
some headway over that two year period, great. Then we
can consider where they are. But right now they're in
a holding pattern. And we're under a lot of pressure
from the provincial government through a whole bunch of rules
to try to get new housing units built. This isn't
helping. And, you know, this could be another couple of
years before we see anything on this site. Hopefully we
will. I'm, um, I have no reason to doubt that
the developer eventually wants to proceed, but we need housing.
And we need, we need units now rather than later.
So Madam Chair, I'm going to remove that we amend
the report to save a two year extension as opposed
to a three year extension. Are there any comments. Councillor
Dubino. Yeah. Just, just for the sake of the record,
the applicant will, and staff can clarify this, if the
applicant does move forward and show some progress, they will
have the opportunity to come back to council. Um, because
I sympathize with the reality of the market right now.
The floor has fallen out of the condo market. But
I completely understand where the mayor is coming from. We
are under a lot of pressure from Queen's Park to
get things moving forward. And, um, I think this allows
us the ability to have some eyes on it to
move forward. So I'm just wondering if staff can, uh,
just put that on the record. We'll be good. Um,
to have something come back if they request another extension
in two years. If there's progress. Thank you, Councillor Kristen.
Is there any way that, and I'm in full support
of the mayor's suggestion. Is there any way that we
can also add to that some targeted conditions that be
approved of whether it's, okay, right now it's like maybe
a quarter. And that's a, you know, we want to
see progress every year to a certain extent. Like. 10,
you know, like some, some numbers so that we're not
right back here on the same place with the conditions,
not me being met, that they have to basically put
some, um, some substantial movement forward within those two years.
So in response to that, ideally in two years, they
will have met all these conditions. I don't want to
be setting a bar for them which they can limp
to and then say, okay, we made it. Give us
another two years. I think the proof will be in
the pudding. If they've made progress, uh, that's, that's one
thing. But if we get another report that says, you
know, there's still miles away. It tends to indicate that,
okay, we're in a holding pattern. This is a piece
of property that's not being developed and nothing can be
done with it because we keep extending the time for
them to meet the approval. So I think we just
say, you know what two years. Come back to us
if there's progress. We're not going to cut you off
at the knees or whoever's here isn't like you're going
to cut you off at the knees. But we need
to see something more than just, you know, we're, we're,
we're, we're working at it. So are there any no
other comments? So I'll call the amendment all those in
favor. Opposed. That amendment carries.
We'll now call the report as amended. All those in
favor. Opposed. That also is carried. Um, the final report
this evening is PBBS 40 - 206, a part name
proposal for 3440 Thunder Bay. So moved. Yes, your
worship. This is, um. I think this is an excellent
result. And I know that the author of the Report
has misgivings. And, um, I've never read a report that
goes around and around and around and comes to some
place where the report wouldn't suggest it's going. But to
name this park after Earl Plato doesn't really detract from
the idea that there's an area in town called Thunder
Bay. And that if we don't call this part Thunder
Bay Park, somehow that's going to be lost. If you
ask anybody where the Thunder Bay Golf Course was, they
would have told you Ridgway. If you ask where Ridgway
Shore's Golf Course was, they would have told you Ridgway.
If they ask you, if you're from Ridgway and they
say, is that Thunder Bay, they will tell you, no,
that's not Thunder Bay. That's Ridgway. Thunder Bay starts at
Maple Leaf or Pleasant Avenue and goes east. So I'm
thinking that the name Thunder Bay, the geographic location Thunder
Bay is not going to be lost because we call
this Earl Plato Park. And I think it's a tremendous
tribute to an individual who spent a lot of time
educating, not just children, but because he was an educator,
but also the public at large in generations of a
naturalist and environmentalist. And, you know, when you think of
individuals who had an impact on the education of the
population about our natural environment, you think Burt Miller, Plato.
So I think this is a fitting tribute. And I'm
pleased to see that the recommendation is coming forward in
this regard. And I hope the Council will support this.
Also a support, a review of the terms of the
part naming policy, um, if that's necessary, I think that
could be updated. So I'm, if you haven't guessed, I'm
supportive of this. Are there any other comments, questions. I'll
just jump in very briefly further to the mayor's comments.
I just want to say, as more and more new
people move into our community to contribute to the development
of our community, I think it's important that we ensure
that we. Highlight some of the history and the historical
aspects and some of the components that help shape our
community to turn it into the community that it is
that welcomes new people here. And you see new people
choosing to call the Community, our community home to them
as well. So I think acknowledging that people know we're
Thunder Bay is Thunder Bay is never going anywhere. It's
not like the, uh, the, um, the Gulf of Mexico
being changed to, you know, the Gulf of USA. But
I think this is very fitting. It's certainly someone in
the Community who, as the mayor said, has contributed and
I too am supportive. Councillor Flag. Thank you, Chair. Just,
uh, I guess a point of clarification. Within this report
as PBS 54 2025 as well. I'm wondering what the
current status of that report is and whether we have
to, um, defeat that report, whether that report was tabled
or anything like that before we can approve the report,
um, that we're considering this evening.
Yep, through you chair. Uh, typically we like to include,
uh, when we have, uh, a report on the same
matter that the previous report be received. That's typical to
have that in a recommendations. We don't have it here.
Um, that report, we would consider spent at this point.
And the address that I don't believe. As an answered,
thank you. Um. Being no more comments or questions, I
will, uh, call the question all those in favor. Opposed.
Don't dare. Gee, was that a threat. None opposed. So
that carries. Not chairman like I realise your worship. But
whatever. Um, so, uh, do we have any new business
or inquiries this evening. Your worship? Just following the, um,
consideration of the, um, consolidated CIP and the discussion around
the Affordable Housing. Just want to make sure that when,
um, the CIP report comes back, there will be some
consideration given to whether we need to change our definition
of affordable housing in our affordable housing CIP. Can I
just get confirmation that that will be considered by Ms.
Smith. De warrior. Madam Chair ESP would definitely have a
look at it. Okay. Thank you. Any other new business
or inquiries. That being the case will move on to
the business status report. Any questions about the business status
report. None being seen. That concludes the business of the
Planning Business and Bylaw Committee. And I turn the chair
back to you. Thank you very much, Councillor Kristensen. Um,
that takes us to Infrastructure Services. Councillor Lewis. Thank you.
We have a packed agenda tonight. Andrea Infrastructure with no
presentations or delegations, no reports. Um, are there any matters
of new business or inquiries for members. Councillor Flag. Thank
you, Chair. Um, in previous meetings, we've had a discussion
about the corner of Mitch Nern, Point Abno Road, uh,
with respect to traffic calming and daylight triangles. And I'm
just wondering, um, if we can get a report as
to where we are with that from staff, um, I've
driven that stretch, um, a number of times in the
last three weeks and find it very difficult. Um, and
I know that there has been some other individuals that
have reached out with the same concerns, um, and I'm
hopeful that staff can get us a report sooner than
later. Thank you, Councillor Flag. And I know the mayor
and I have spoke on this one as well. It's
come up at infrastructure services. And I believe is scheduled
for, um, traffic coordinating. Um, but, uh, director Clint, any
comments on that. Through you, Chair. Yes. I did speak
with, um, Tommy Peasl before this meeting. He did provide
me with some updates, which I can share. Um, so
he did mention that staffer currently brushing, um, for sight
lines. And that they are planning to bring it to
the traffic coordinating for review September 16th. That was the,
uh, the Information I received from him. I hope that
helps. Thank you. Thank you, Director Flag. Anything further? Nothing
further. I appreciate the soundtrack. Thank you. Any other questions
from members of Council. Seeing none, I just want to
add to that one, um, Director Clint, Mitchener and Far
Avenue or Mitchner to Fire Avenue in that section. Um,
should also maybe be flagged for traffic coordinating as well.
Um, if there are no other questions, I did have
one, um, pardon me? Oh, Councillor Christensen, go ahead. Yes,
Chair, and I'm not entirely certain where to raise this,
but it's a question. As you're aware, there has been,
uh, concerns expressed with respect to, um, the use of
motorized vehicles on trails requesting signage, which has been put
up in Shag Park Park. Thank you very much. Um,
and with respect to speeding and we have had media,
um, campaign initiated to educate the public on this. Um,
I wondered, I actually had someone, uh, raised the question
with me, uh, with respect to people who use pedal
assisted. Bikes and who have mild disabilities. Um, have difficulty
using a regular bike. And I did some research and
found out that there is a piece of legislation that
will actually set up classes of motorized vehicles with class
one being the, um, pedal assist bikes. And in other
provinces, their distinguished from others. My question is, would it
be possible to find out the current status? I understand
it is not being proclaimed. And I just wondered whether
you could find out what the current status or speak
to someone at the province who actually can give you
a little bit of background on when it will be
proclaimed, um, because then I might have a motion if
I know that. Through, through you, Chair, yeah, that's not
a problem. We can investigate that further. Thank you. Perfect.
And then the other component to that would be enforcement
on which we're already working on. Yes. And my mine
is simply a question at this point because it is,
um, they are not permitted. So yeah. Thank you. Any
other questions from council? If none, I do have one,
uh, director Clint, one question for you. I know it's
only August 10th, but I'm just wondering when we would
expect timing on the babych operational report for 2026. To
you, Chair, we're hoping to have it, I would say
at the end of December or December, if not early
January. And if I could continue with that, thank you.
Reason for bringing this up, I'd like to ask staff
that when bringing forward the end of your bay beach
report that we, in addition to the regular updates, we
receive on operations, attendance, revenues. We take a closer look
at the breakdown on revenue's generated from 40er residents compared
to non - residents. Um, with the said like to
also ask staff to include a scenario for council's consideration
in the upcoming budget that looks at the financial impact
of providing free beach passes to Fordieri residents, um, specifically
what revenues we would potentially be giving up by eliminating,
um, residential pass fees. And are there reasonable ways that
revenues could be absorbed within existing operations to recover those,
um, other revenues, including non - resident fees. Um, I
believe this is something that council may want to consider
or at least we should have the options, um, in
front of us in order to have those conversations in
the upcoming budget. So having that financial information and some
potential options available to council, I think would be helpful.
Um, I'm by no means suggesting that we want to
make this decision, um, I'm simply asking that we have
those numbers in front of us so that when we
look at this report, we're prepared to have further discussion.
Councillor Lewis, I'm going to suggest that that should be
a notice of motion at the August 24th meeting. Uh,
the time between then and the report. And that can
be dealt with in September. It'll give direction. Staff has
an idea where you're heading. But I think there's sufficient
work involved in that that's something that should be a
notice of motion. Absolutely. And I have no problem bringing
it up in that fashion. Thank you. Thank you, staff.
Um, if the, um, comments from council, I will move
that on to the business status report. There are two
items in that report. Are there any questions or comments
related to that? Seeing none, I will turn it back
to you, your worship. Thank you, Councillor Lewis. That takes
us then to Corporate Services Council flag. Thank you worship
Corporate Community Services. Now in Session, we have no presentations
or delegations this evening. One report on the floor looking
for a seconder. Thank you. Um, by your worship, move
by your worship comments, your worship. The report indicates that
there were some, there were some consideration given to what
other municipalities are doing and didn't really specify which ones
they might be. But it also indicated that this, um,
agreement that's been negotiated for the extension with TD Banking
is favorable to the, to the town. But there is
nothing to indicate what other banks are offering or doing.
I'm going to support this, but I would like, uh,
before the bylaw comes forward to get some information from
staff with respect to what the other banks have been
offering, what other municipalities may be able to have generated
because the end of the report suggests that it may
be coming time when we would want to go out
to the market again. Thank you. Other comments. Seeing none,
all those in favor. Unopposed, that carries. Brings us the
new business inquiries. Questions on the business status report. Seeing
none, I'll close that and turn it back to you,
worship. Thank you very much, Councillor Flag. That was, uh,
quite expeditious. Um, okay, scheduling of meetings. Councillor Noyes. There's
an SBCA meeting on the 20th. I think about five
o'clock at the chair's house. Mary Reinhardt. You say 5
p. m. Yes. Any other meetings. Councillor Lewis. We have
the crystal beach BIA meeting business improvement this area board
of management meeting on Wednesday, August the 12th at 6
p. m. And Wednesday, August the 12th at 5 p.
m. is the next meeting for EAC. Okay. Anyone else.
If not, that, sorry, Councillor Noise. There also non -
for - profit housing meeting on the 19th. The Wednesday,
and it's usually at Betty. S. At nine. 9 a.
m. The date on that again. Thank you. Any others.
Contraduino. Yes, sir. I'd like to move the council and
committee adjourn this evening at 722 p. m. All those
in favor. Unanimous. Thank you all.