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resolved that we get Kim Yellun president and CAO headwaters
health care centred to address Council. Look Favor. Welcome to
the Medium, Kim. Forward to your presentation. How are you?
I'm good. Thank you, Mayor Solomon, and good morning Council.
Thank you very much for having me this morning. I
hope everyone's having a good summer so far. Uh, I'm
going to share my screen. I believe you have the
slides in your package, but I'll go ahead and share
it so that I can advance them. Uh, and let
me just do this so you guys can see them.
So this morning, I just wanted to provide a short
highlight of some key accomplishments that were in the past
fiscal year, the current year. Uh, at Headwaters to Sheriff,
a few interesting items. So that's just our strategic plan,
which of course, everything we do is align to, but
I just wanted to recap and share some numbers from
our last fiscal year. So that was the year ending
March 31, 2026. So you can see our ED visits
were over 34, 000, close to 35. Our day surgeries,
or about 5, 500. You can see our dialysis visits.
We had over 22, 000 outpatient visits, uh, switching to
the right there. We completed over 424, 000 lab tests
are diagnostic imaging numbers went up because of our MRI.
So we're over 74, 000 now for the year. And
then of course you can see our number of staff,
um, is usually studying around 850 and positions we have
close to 200. So some really remarkable stats over the
last fiscal year. I'm also pleased to share that the
hospital, uh, ended in a very strong financial position. We
actually ended with, um, our surplus of 1. 6 million
dollars. And that is, you know, mostly due to, funding
that we received very late in the fiscal year, but
it's also due to some excellent, uh, diligence by all
of our teams at headwaters. We've really been keeping a
cosign on our expenses, our supply costs, looking for savings
opportunities wherever we can. So being very, very diligent. So
strong financial year run for the hospital, which is great.
Uh, of course, um, I'm going to highlight some of
our proudest accomplishments. I think the, you know, the biggest
one and the one that certainly provides huge positive benefit
to the communities that we served was the launch for
new MRI, which happened, uh, in the fall. And so,
you know, once it's up to full capacity and we're
getting there, we'll be doing up to 8, 000 scans
per year. Uh, and you can see the types of
scans we're doing there on the right, uh, and so
we are making our way up to that number, but
it has already made a huge impact on our communities,
which is very positive. Uh, another huge positive accomplishment that
I want to highlight is the big focus at the
hospital in terms of our emissions, our green footprint and
reducing all of that, becoming more efficient. I'm really happy
to say that, and that's just one of the checks
we receive from Enbridge last year, but we actually received
the highest rebate, uh, in the province last year. So
we've been upgrading all of our boilers, all of our
heating and cooling systems, all of that. So, uh, again,
becoming more efficient, uh, and certainly always looking at, uh,
how we can reduce any negative impacts to the environment.
Uh, and so in total, we received close to 278,
000 dollars in rebates again, which is excellent and huge
shout out to our facilities teams and all the stuff
behind the walls. Uh, some other accomplishments are just going
to highlight. So there are many, uh, certainly we're very
proud of just looking at the photos, uh, we're very
proud of our partnership with the Duffer and OPP in
regards to our M13 team. So that's, um, our nurses
at Ride along with police officers to those that are
suffering any type of mental health or addictions crisis trying
to avoid an emission to hospital and treating them, again,
the sports state even in the community. Of course our
paramedics as well that were so pleased are part of
the hospital team here. They underwent an accreditation. Um, which
is excellent. We also really pleased to be continuing to
partner with the Toronto metropolitan university School of Medicine bringing
in students, our community paramedicine program, relocated, uh, and we
continue to look at benchmarking, looking for savings across a
hospital. And it's been two years now, which has equated
to five million dollars in savings achieved across the hospital.
Uh, these are just, uh, I wanted to highlight some
of our annual reward recipients. We like to highlight members
in the community. And of course, those inside the hospitals.
So those are just some great snapshots from our annual
awards ceremony, which just happened in June. Uh, and that's
just a summary of all of our recipients and the
words we give out. Uh, I would be remiss if
I didn't also do a big shout out to our
foundation who completed their biggest campaign yet in Headwater's history.
They successfully raised over 18 million dollars to support us
and being able to bring the MRI to headwaters and
also support many other pieces of equipment, uh, and the
technology and software that is needed, uh, behind the scenes
to support all of them. So very grateful to the
community members who do donate to the hospital. Looking ahead
to this fiscal year, uh, we are continuing to focus
on our work, our emergency department has been given the
approval to undergo and expansion, uh, and full renovation. So
that is underway, which is very exciting. We hope to
have shovels in the ground next year. Uh, we continue
to look at reducing our wait times as always and
looking at how we can enhance or expand, uh, current
services and programs in the hospital, uh, we are making
some investments in some high pressure area such as our
surgical services, emergency department, as I mentioned, are obstetrical department
as rapidly growing. Uh, we had over a thousand deliveries
over the last couple of years. We're breaking records with
over a hundred bursts per month. So it's an area
that's really growing. And then of course we're focused on
geriatric services or ambulatory care clinics and respiratory services in
the hospital. We continue to look at, uh, digital innovations
using artificial intelligence in the hospital to support our clinicians.
Uh, and of course a decision making and communication. Uh,
and I think the last place I just want to
focus on is, you know, partnerships are really important to
us at headwaters. We're always looking at expanding partnerships, looking
at how partnerships can better support access to care for
those patients who walk through our door to ensure a
smooth, uh, continuum of care. So just in summary, I
think kind of the key takeaways I wanted to share
is just that, you know, at the hospital, uh, given
financial pressures across the system, we're always very fiscally responsible.
We continue to do benchmarking at data. We're monitoring our
costs, uh, definitely we want to ensure long - term
sustainability, uh, but never, never compromising quality and safety inside
the hospital, uh, we're looking at always improving our infrastructure
and access to care. I talked about emergency department expansion
and the other programs that were investing in. Of course,
we want to, you know, continue to offer as many
services as possible as we can at headwaters. And then
lastly, and probably most importantly, we're always focused on supporting
our staff, our positions, volunteers and learners having a just
culture, uh, living our values of kindness accountability respect and
teamwork is a top priority to us here at headwaters.
And then just the last few slides again, we're just
some highlights from the year, some of the awards we
receive new programs and services we launched. Our teddy bear
clinic is the photo on the left. There are annual
teddy bear clinic is coming up, uh, in September. So
stay tuned to hear more about that, which were pleased
with, uh, and again, just some other photos with our
partners. And of course last but not least, I hope
everyone knows how to get in touch with us. If
you ever need anything or want to give any feedback,
uh, or want to support the hospital in any way
possible. And I'm more than happy to answer any questions
from Council or from yourself mayor solvent Kim. As usual,
well done. And it's always, uh, something going on at
the hospital and how is something very positive in a
place that sometimes isn't helpful or positive stuff. But keep
this going in. Question some council comments. For you. Yeah,
I've got a couple, I guess nobody else wants to
start. So yeah, I will echo. And I'll start with
the exercise. I can't remember if you've had one in
the last few years. If you could comment on that.
And then it's, it's there any danger of you being
a victim of your success and getting less funding because
you had a surplus. Yeah. Excellent question. So I'll answer
the first one first. The last two years we've had
a surplus. The prior year was, it was a bit
smaller. The year before that we had a small deficit
and the one year small deficit, it was a timing
issue with receiving the funding in the next fiscal year,
which then caused a surplus in two years ago. So
typically though, we're very strong financially. So we're landing pretty
close to being balanced with either usually a small surplus.
So strong position there. Uh, but to answer your second
question, it is something we discuss, uh, at our board
meetings on a regular basis, uh, in regards to, are
we hindering ourselves with our strong financial results and being
very diligent with how we monitor our expenses? Um, it,
it hasn't hindered headwaters to date. I think if anything
it is shows the ministry and Ontario health are a
funder and who are accountable to that, uh, we are
very fiscally prudent and do have a high level monitoring
here. So I don't think it's hindered us. I hope
it doesn't ever, um, because yeah, we are very physically
responsible here at headwaters. Yeah. If it does, I think
our system is even more fast works than it is,
right? Like I think the organisations that are doing well,
she can be rewarded, not punished. Yes. Above my paper.
The amorag machine, I'm assuming what's hindering to be more
scans is, um, clinicians or technicians or whatever. And that's
funding. Or is there something else. Uh, no. So great
question. So we are currently funded to operate at 16
hours a day. Monday to Friday. That's the provincial funding
we receive. Uh, we made the decision with input from
our patient and family advisors to actually stagger that. So
we operate at seven days a week, uh, as we
want to ensure that there was accessibility and warnings, evenings.
Of course during the day. So we've, um, shared those
hours across seven days. Uh, were funded for the 16
hours, which enable us to do 8, 000 scans per
year. We're not there yet. Only because we're still in
the ramp up phase. So there's no hindrance at this
point. I think there will come a time where we
will be fully blocked using the 16 hours a day.
And then it will become a funding gap. And then
we will need the extra funding to be able to
operate at 24 seven, but we're not there yet with
demand. Yeah, I'd say hours a week is that right?
I'm trying to do math in my head. 16 times
five would be 30. So 80 hours a week we're
kind of short. Brain is halfway working. Um, and are
those scans in our catchment air, in your catchment area?
Or are you bringing in people from outside. Great question.
Great question. So both. So, uh, of course our priority
is to serve our catchment areas. And the communities that
we serve, uh, however, referrals do come from outside. So
I know we received referrals from new market, uh, from
south of us. The word gets out. Um, and, you
know, positions know that our wait terms are much shorter
here because we're a brand new MRI. So we are
serving from all over. That was curiosity more than anything
else. I mean, I. Yeah. No, no. There's been some
folks I think that I've travelled from afar to come
to headwaters is what I've heard, to be honest, to
get it much sooner. Right. It's here. I mean, last
but not this, this is unfair. Um, I'm going to
ask anyways. And then I wear the ask if maybe
next year it becomes part of your presentation. Are you
able to provide context in terms of last year? So
ER visits. You said first or from your presentation, I
got, it's either babies or old people. It's using the
hospital. Uh, but are you able to ride context? Is
that increasing decreasing or less statement. State. In terms of
the ED visits or the numbers overall, like you're, I
always ask for all of it. So, uh, you know
what Paul is on with me. She's our comm specialist.
Great suggestion. We will include some year over year next
time I come. I think that's actually great to show
the trending cause it is an excellent question. So ED
visits have actually been consistent over the last couple of
years. I can tell you that we've hovered around the
35, 000 last few years pre COVID in terms of
UD visits. We were up to 41, 000. So when
I first got to headwaters, it was quite high. And
then a Purse COVID, everyone saw a decrease. Uh, in
terms of some of the other areas, we've seen growth
probably in all the other areas. We've seen growth, to
be honest. So births for sure when I got to
headwaters a number of years ago, we were around seven,
800 a year. We're 1100 last year. You saw the
numbers there. And that's increasing. Same with our number of
lab tests. DI scans, obviously with the MRI, uh, chemo
we've expanded dialysis. We've expanded our number of chairs. So
we're, we're growing in all the other areas. Great. Thanks.
The one question I have, and I've asked it before,
but I wouldn't mind a refresher. You mentioned all the
increasing number of tests that you have to be done.
The number increasing of, I guess, bursts hopping in the
area. Um, there's just an increase use of the facility
as a whole. And then I look at the headwaters
health care centre website. And I take a look at
joining our teams here in at the headwaters. And I
can't help but notice that I'd say 75 to 85
percent. Of all the positions that you're trying to fill
are either temporary, casual, or part - time. Would it
not be easier to catch and retain staff at full
- time status. Yes. Excellent question. Very good observation. Uh,
yes, it is always easier to hire full - time
permanent into full - time permanent rolls. Um, and we
have, so it is a strategy that, we call it
now our people on culture team looks at continually with
our managers. Can we convert two part - time lines?
Uh, so most of the positions are unionized. So there,
we have to follow the collective agreement and the rules
within that. Uh, and how many lines which equates to
FTE is very complicated, but we always look at, can
we convert two part - time into a full -
time? Cause it's always easier to recruit into a full
- time permanent. You're absolutely right. So we have done
a number of those, um, kind of amalgamations of roll,
uh, that challenge that we do have and the roles
that you see posted are commonly their maternity leaves or
medical leaves or educationa leaves and are constantly to always
have some level of casual staff that can just fill
in for vacations. Or some of the leaves. So it
is, um, a bit of our reality, but you're absolutely
right and that we do look at whenever possible to
create full - time permanent roles because they are much
easier to hire into. We do all hospital struggle hiring.
Anything that's part - time or not permanent these days.
Lord for any comments, we can do this. I don't
think holes on the line. Come on with just a
comment if you want to take a look at me.
You'll know that I'm probably a guy that's going to
use the hospital quite election. Anyway, so I did go
over there and I, well, I'm a big, you know,
now advocate for how darn nice everybody is over there
and how good everybody does their job. And it's proud
of the work you all do your staff yourself. And
everybody that has anything to do with that food's not
even about it. You know, that's it. I'm not recommending
a long state, but it's, it's very nice. And I
was really, very impressed. That, you know, what my experience
was like. And I just like to think, do your
team and we have a great hospital. That's a very
short trip from here. And all that all put together.
It seems to be like a very good outfit. Nothing
to complain about from me. So I'd like to thank
you, too. And thank you for delegating to us and
tell us what's going on in Netflix. Thank you very
much, Mayor Solomon and Council. And please know we are
here always and, uh, appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you.
Thank you. Have a great day. Enjoy the rest of
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explain our greatness. We are very excited. To actually come
here. Um, and then.
Our street. So, uh, the filming of this intelligence
here is that we're looking to do is become nine
days total between September the 11th Friday. Tuesday, November 22.
One of the days we fall on a. Sunday senate.
Oh yeah. They're really neck. We're only going to be
Monday to Friday. For me. And we're looking to do
the first day that we're telling would be a later
call our. Day starting at around one o'clock in the
afternoon. These timelines are just a guide for now. And
they shipped slightly here and there, not by much. They
generally pushed it down or 2. 30 direction. As we
filled for our win times. Um. I said we wish
to do closures on mainstream. Right. Um.
On the board, you can see basically the plant that
we've set up for, the highlighted buildings of glue are
considered name sites for us for filming. The one that's
kind of the U - shaped that is actually a
set that's in Bhashua. Our overall plan for the show.
In the tower. Tentative. Somewhere else
that we're going to be on as well. But the
majority of the kind of in the main section, we
do have two interior days that we're still letting them.
We're looking to film the OG Dyer downtown. So two
of those days we'll foster the interior of the out
of the night. So seven days out. About on the
streets. As well as upon side street. We're going to
turn the air gas building into a gas station. Cycles.
In the background. We're filming purposes there around the corner
at the green store. We did discussions them to actually
put them into a lot of body shop, canning shop.
And all iconics were filming around the corner. I need
a lot of body shop where turning that into the
great starts like government weren't
really. Um, we've got traffic management plans that we can
hand out as well that we put out. We're looking
to deep to our big trucks around. So they're not
going through the main town during all the filming theories.
Uh, that'll be the traffic management plants. So everything will
be done by 07 over CD by police. And vitamin.
Uh, track staff. We will have, uh, our own security
in the town. Nothing weird not that you have. I'm
scared. But we call them LS piece. And they'll be
wearing time with vests. One of the best are easily
market. You can see who they are. And they'll be
there to help with moving flow of people along and
just the general keeping. If we have any on records
that want to come down, we'll keep married out to
move them get out. Uh, as we want to keep
all the businesses open during all of our filming and
our app. There are times we'll move you to hold
up people for certain filming activities. Um, we're doing some
drone shift. Down the main stretch. And we do have
one rate scene with our main actor going down the
hill into town as he walks into tell. One of
the proposals that we do want to do on the
main strip is to paint lines. The parking lines turned
them by understanding how this in the past turn them
back to the angle parking on both sides of the
street for that. And we would be using the city
approved contractor to do work for that or to free
network apartment force and then restore it back to the
way they want to finish as well. Another aspect that
we're. Looking to do. There's diagram of. The parking that
we do. When it is angled and done with the
centre line, it will accommodate still north and south traffic.
Going past it. And. We do want to affect some
of the street lights in the main section. The. Black,
three lights on there. We want to put an LED
light in it. And box it with a diffusion. And
that will turn that like to help create a better
glow for us. And what currently comes off a bit.
Um, we'll do the work with the authorized contractors for
electrical work that do this. We also wish to install
a one end down by the diner at the intersection
there. We want to install a four way flashing red
light. To give it as a small town feel for
that. We're going to use outside electrical contractors. We're looking
at platinum to hang that light for us. And that
would be done just prior to our filming. And then
as soon as we are done filming, uh. In our
restoration. We're making our loud
people might want people might not like that now because
they finally. Yeah. And that's, that's a proposal. We are
talking to the businesses. I know there's been a bit
of some miscommunication that went around to that. And we're
sorting that out now to be on board with everybody
to let them know that yes, we're going to be
talking to all the individual businesses and Adam Unies here
today. Sorry. He doesn't have much to say. I just
brought in. He's going to be my face for grand
valley. That's going to be down here working with Decent
and Jake Organ, right? And he's going to be basically
his whole purpose in life is to become a lesson
for your grandma. Yes. Tornado Argument Evolve. Firefighter. In terms
of parking, we're going to need to take the parking
spaces for the entire duration for our shoe just to
keep it clear for circuit shots when we look up
the street. We look down the street. And the buildings
that we're going to be dressing businesses on. So part
of there for alternate part of what we're looking at
is we do want to approach for it to be
approaching the grocery store. I meant some parking for them,
but we don't want to take all of our way.
Obviously we want to make sure people get the grocery.
Storm. They got there on groceries and get in and
out. And we'll facilitate as much in and out as
we can. There is a parking lot to the far
end. The west. The west side. That the city has
that we'd be looking to rent from the city to
accommodate people parking there. For the duration of us. Being
tapped. Trying to think of. Anything else. That I have.
Alright guys, we're looking to film at the food bank
of the road as well. So we want to make
istonations of animal to turn that too far, actual, uh,
library. Us. That's all for them. How it is. And
who we're not turning on my marine to library. Yeah.
And your main setup that was at the arena and
the thing was the big and camp. All over basement,
our big large trucks and everything we're going to be,
I believe is the plant right now. That's also where
our main crew lunch and everything will be. Our preparing
will be up there. So we don't have any Ring
Down and taking away parking for what we are already
taking away from for filming. To free up the other
spaces for residents. And people count. Our catering is supplied
by our own cater that follows us to show. But
I can tell you from experience, we're in towns like
this whenever we break for lunch, the crew they can
badge lower restaurants. Uh, as well as our pregnant raptors,
they're more than likely being restaurant. And. Uh, yeah. That's
what I have to say so far. What you type.
Could you scroll down on the stock requort. Well. Gives
the lights. And that. S. Like the street lights of
what we wish to accomplish. Yeah. Our goal is to
have control. For our teams. And the intention is not
to affect the pressure speed like that. The servicing with
street. Safety research. They're making them that way. But, uh,
our goal, so we're concurrently, I said. And of course,
anytime we're not here on weekends, we will open up
and, you know, really argument everything. That we're clear as
much about ourselves out of the way. Well. You know,
things happen. All right. Thank you very much for the,
uh, the lowdown. We'll have some questions. I'm going to
start off. I know Paul is busy today. So we'll
go with all you had some questions for you, gentlemen
here. Filming. That's my company. Tired. Go ahead. I'm fine.
If you can hear me. Financial implication for the
town. What's the town receiving financially? Maybe I jumped on
it and missed it. But for the rental and everything
that we, the company's using the properties, the arena, I
take it, they mean the arena, they don't mean the
arena. They mean the, the, uh, fairgrounds. Me and the
building as well or what's the. I think they're also
renting the upstairs of the arena building. For one share.
Yeah. So they're paying the rental fees for any of
our, any of our parking lots. There's a rental fee
on our usual five film permit. And then any of
the other fees is going to the businesses as they're
renting their space or changing their building. So the parking
lots are included under the rented. Yes. Yeah. My goal
is when we rent the parking spaces, it's going to
be for the townsfolk to be in. Yeah. We want
to limit our stuff to parking farther away up at
the fairgrounds. For all of our improving. Well, paying respectively
paying the 500 dollar permit fee wasn't ever to meant
to be renting parking spots. Exactly. That's separate. Yeah. The
film we could be on top of us renting for
the parking as well. Correct. So if we talked about
what we're renting about for what's the, what's the plan?
We had discussions about the fee. They just haven't finalised
what they want rent yet. So once we do that,
then we'll be sending them a bill for the rental
of those for the number. And is that just that's
a staff decision, not council decision? Um, well, I haven't
had any policy on that. So we were just going
to kind of go. Never rented it. So I just
hope we're asking for enough. Well, look at some money.
Yes. Business
owners, business owners. If you ask the majority of them
see no economic benefit to the town to do this,
there is been a bunch of misinformation outright misinformation and,
and business owners are not generally speaking, are not in
favor for any of this. So, um, it's, yeah, it's
been poorly done. And, um, it needs parking still not
being addressed, um, by having the spots, um, yeah. So
that's the majority. There's some that yes have signed contracts,
but the ones who have not, um, that's a long
way to come. So my suggestion would be is we
don't, uh, give a permit. And so we know the
downtown, we have to ensure that the residents and the
business owners continue to operate and continue to make the
money they have any other times. Yes. Crew. So to
the point the crews go downtown, other film shoots, business
owners would say that's absolutely incorrect. They may have one
person or two people in through the day. So, um,
but that's, that's from our business community. And yeah. Anyone
else with the question again. One of the days that
you've filmed dates there. Yeah. So long, you're one of
the cooling days you're showing that you're going to be
filming on Sunday, September 20th. What sort of time frame
you're looking at. The reason I'm asking is it does
get busy at certain times. On the main drag. And
I'm just sort of curious. About how it's going to
work. There's one church at the top of the hill
across the water tower. That saw anytime from. That's one
of the services. Oh, hard to possibly and two. Yeah,
I think it is kind of two. Yeah, 10 o'clock
the true service and then 230. So about a half
an hour. So 930, you're going to see a bunch
of vehicles go up. And maybe an hour and a
half later. Go down again. Because a bulk of them
either, you know, they're all in town and everything else.
So just sort of keep that in your great dark.
Cause it is busy. Definitely will. Uh, and the anticipate
called that day is around noon. Cause that will keep
that in mind to make sure. With parent traffic stoppages
on that face just so we can expect. Two tribu.
And how weather dependent is that date. Is this one
is all our dates are pretty solid. Unless we get
something really unforeseen like, um. Rental downpours and lightning is
sort of that funding is really lonely back. And source
down and stop us to push it here or so,
but it wouldn't be more than that. It's not. And
then the only other city could happen. Like I said,
it'll be a super prior was arriving in front of
our doctors institute. That was, that would be the only
thing that would, but we would know that right away.
The most part we just tried to push through with
what we need for our family schedule. As we're going
to put away me, but you guys are going to
be 84 locations. For this block of filming. And you're
a very important location for us. And we appreciate the
time that it takes to set us up. And we
will, uh, adjust. Concerns of time. We're going to go
back and talk to businesses. And we will, I want
to make this a positive too. I have been in
the industry over 20 years myself. And I felt small
towns. And I do want to hand it to have
a positive experience. And we welcome back again. Anyone knows,
one. Thank you guys for obviously coming. Take a talk
to explain this. There's certainly been a lot of, I
guess, uh, I don't want to say misinformation, but a
lot of confusion, I guess in terms of who you
talk to and to understand maybe each individual business owner
may have had a different experience, um, I know parking
was a big one. So thank you for addressing that.
I'd be renting out the back alley space for, you
know, townspoken able to come in utilise. This schedule here,
did the local business owners go similar schedule so that
they have an idea or an all being distributed. Okay.
Analysis was another one. So this will probably clarify quite
a few things. I know even just seeing the shooting
schedule here. I mean, is probably a big relief because
they were under the anticipation or sorry, Prussian, it was
going to be like a month long when in fact,
it's not, um, something I want to mention since I'm
always the ad schools also going back since you guys
are going to be located quite heavily around that area.
We do have a number of children that rely on
bosses. Hans, the school board or busy. Have they been
made aware of this because certain closures will have hacked
how they navigate the allowing other arrangements. As of right
now, no, but we more than happy to notify them
about everything and give them apps for plans. That is
a priority. We don't want anybody to miss their bus.
We want them to all get to their squamo. Yeah.
School. The first day goes backwards on the eight. So,
um, again, is this short term? But I mean, it's
definitely going to be how they're getting around. You also
have learning that you can throw it out. Sorry. Yeah.
You get a clear contact. We'll definitely make sure there's
a clear plan for those. I guess one thing I'd
also say is, I mean, we've never encountered a project
of this magnitude. Um, so we're kind of learning as
we're going as well. Um, I just, just, I guess
from just a touch on something, Paul kind of got
into, I guess with, again, all the little bits and
sonners kind of, you know, you hear one thing and
you hit all the small town. Um, I would say
that I wish maybe we had. Gone some of these
things Iron Dote a little earlier. I think the business
own. Had major concerns. They could have coordinated with the
GIA of a Council. We could have kind of had
everyone here. Um, that way I think it would have
just alleviated a lot of the stress and a lot
of the headache. Something that all kinds of do. But
again, we're learning this is a first. This doesn't seem
as invasive. And, you know, I guess as bad as
it was being went on B. Sorry, no, no, please,
why? Adamant is going to be taking over, like not
taking over, but headlinking is more goal is we're going
to talk to everybody. You actually everybody notice the exact
schedule, all businesses up and down. So we know everyone's
on the same page. For what we're doing. And I
said, businesses were applying scient. Play both. Yeah. Um, I
guess, yeah, just there from when I guess they were
initially approached to now, I guess there's still a lot
of laundry. So again, like I know this is one
of the big concerns. This should help them. Um, Clarifying
and advising on your plan to rent out the parking
space or parking lot stories. So that way it doesn't
comple. Affect the businesses. It will obviously affect the traffic
because unfortunately the way the town goes, we have so
limited spark parking now is if you can't get parking
off the time, they'll just kind of keep going. Right.
So that is a kind of a growing concern that
some of the businesses face. Um, let me just say
here another side X compile some questions. Just from talk
to people in the area. But I mean, a lot
of this stuff is something you're going to have to
work out with. I think yeah, we should just take
note that BA should probably be the call next time
we'll show these gentlemen. How can we get one into
this volume again? Uh, and we just kind of look
at all of the aspects. Again, this is learning process
for us too. Uh, I mean, that's kind of it
for me. I mean, I wanted to address obviously school
buses. Thank you guys for coming in and being here.
This was a huge, I guess a huge question. We
have a lot of people wondering. You can see, make
sure I don't have it. And then I'll see it
for you. Call for Joker touched on the church. Good.
I'll pop up. But if I do let that be
Mirko or their guys, somebody else to say. Thank you
guys. Very good question. I wrote down, what is the
bear. I'm assuming you've been talking to the exercise. Yes.
Because they're usually not. How should I put this? Not,
not. So, cause you, and usually we set up a
link ahead. So, but I'm assuming you talk with them
and they're okay with use of being there on the
20 seconds. Yeah. A little bit overlap. Yeah. Money talks,
I think usually. Which is fine. And I will say
I am blissfully unaware of any sort of, cause I
don't think in town. Right. So whatever. I mean, I
look at this like a construction job, right? Like it's
going to suck for a little bit for, for some
people. But I think the benefits that I think we
can get out of it, I've got to turn that
somehow. Yeah. We get some, I'm reading your last page
here. Who knows? It's actually true or not. But I
think we've got to try. And we've had other building
that I think it's worth in another, right? I am
the people I talk to for other filming projects. They've
been pretty damn pleased about it. So I don't see
why this would be a. I'll echo, yeah, I think
the BIA probably should have been involved earlier because if
you are shutting down the whole downtown, that is going
to. This word. And it's only for 10 days. We'll
survive. And I'm not going to walk away meaning anybody
with a seller taste in their mouth business was. We
will communicate with everybody afterwards with a follow up. And
then we will discuss certain things. If the loss of
business here or there was certain ones we'll discuss with
them, they will make it. As well. Oh, and yeah,
I don't know about people will let you take down
that regular. Like people are laughing. I mean, I think
look like once every two months people want a crosswalk
somewhere. So if we get a 10 quarter, we want
you might just have to leave it there. It's done
properly as we get through. Don't get people's hopes. I
don't make everything worthwhile. You know, it's funny how things
like that. I usually do, right? So again, yeah, not,
not to downplay if there have been issues, but I
think, you know, our job is to try to make
this positive different time. You have to let you guys
are here. Yeah. If you've got a sort of a
designated whipping boy, I wouldn't want to be you a
couple of the eights. I like to learn this for
something similar before another jurisdiction before. And I've always left
them in the hose. I had copies with the mayors
afterwards about how successful the film cut me in. And
I'm sure this will be no different than anything. So
there you go. There's your handing of my coffee. It'll
be not.
Me. Yeah. No. I'm, I'm, I think I've got the
only thing I want to just say this is more
on us is in terms of like the winemaking and
some of the major changes. I'm assuming we're going to
have that or somebody appointed to kind of oversee and
approve and all stuff. So already on and very much
involved in the conversation. Yes. Yeah. You guys already addressed
who I was going to suggest our chosen line of
contractors, but you guys already addressed. That's what you're doing.
Sounds up there. Sorry. That was it. Right. Thank you
very much, Jim, for coming in. And yeah. Oh, you
got anything else? I see it. Falling there. Just, yeah,
I was just going to, two more comments. So as
far as Matt goes communication is key. So today nobody
knew that the pylons are going to be out on
Main Street blocking off parking. Yes. It's only till noon
this morning, but there was zero communication. So that'd be
one, uh, the second bit, it's way easier to sell
if the direct link to residents that we can say,
Hey, we got XYZ out of this. Right now when
ASTA said to telling as far as I only knew
was getting 500 bucks for the filming permit. So if,
if we have a direct, uh, say a joke about
the crosswalk, but to me, I thought, well, the crosswalk
after this paid for and installed after this would be
perfect. So, um, but yeah, that's those are the two
things. Communication and a direct link to something that we
can say, Hey, this is what we got left with.
So. But yeah, thank you. Thank you, Paul. We will
make sure. To send out from this point forward. I'd
be happy to talk with you directly throughout the remaining
of the process here to address the server. And with
all of you. Yeah. Thank you. Just since he again,
just to try to alleviate some of the, I guess
everybody, is this, is this public can be made public.
Or how do we feel? We're not posting it online.
Yes. We're going to give it to the businesses. Yes.
We're addressing that. But I don't want to put it
on. Website. This devil can fail. We can do, we
can do a better schedule. Like we'll do a cleaner
one. It has a little bit. Tighter timeline for it.
That way you can allow you guys to post for
filming tastes. Okay. That would be ideal. Just so just
because again, like I like, you know, Paulson, Paul's probably
got text messages from anger people. Right. So we can
certainly, we'll throw that together. So we're clear and tighter.
Yeah. And then we can. Yeah. That way because if
someone's trying to go get the morning coffee or something
like that or totally grocery store, they know now, okay,
this day, this time period, they kind of got a
heads up. If they miss it, they miss it. Well,
at least we can, we have something that we get
to kind of share. You know, while you're maybe integrity
of your project and on jeopardizing anything, of course, but
giving the residents something, I think that would probably go
a long way. Yeah, no problem. We're also going to
be doing a filming notification in the town for what
comes out. That'll have them right down on our days
where our trucks are parking, you know, anything like that.
That's typically what we do. We'll get that sooner than
later for everybody just with the prep coming up. That's
going to start in certain sections. We'll have a breakdown
on that. And that notification will go as wide as
you guys want us to do. Normally we'll cover the
entire downtown stretch and then we'll go out as well
to feeder areas. And then that notification can be posted
online as well. We've had that for lots of filming
them. We've got to do it. No, if that's a
different scale, but yeah, that's why just because it's going
to impact. I mean, some people wouldn't really bother at
all, but it just, I got to get just to
be good. To know people, you know what? And again,
just because we're getting into school, because it's like a,
if it was, you know, filming in the month of
August, there'd be a lot easier to vague. Some of
the traffic and everything else. But one school starts, it
gets quite a bit more busy. Cause then you're going
to have a lot. You've got a lot of foot
traffic too, right? Like they've eliminated some of the busing
and stuff. So I mean, you got to have a
lot of young kids also kind of walking around. You're
going to have to work with. Yeah. We'll make sure
we can see if we get to where they. Officers
with us. Yeah. Like I said, just this is more,
this is our first time actually kind of talked to.
We're learning a lot. On it as we're sitting here.
So a lot of these things are going to kind
of come up again. As we're just a big conversation.
So that's good. Appreciate it. And so just one for
the. Pra. Three weeks.
No, I'm sorry. See, I don't know. Sorry, I interrupted
you. Yeah, no, I'm just saying that you can always
come get a call. With Jason. Probably be a good
idea. It might be beneficial. I'll just throw it out
there too. The BIDing on the first to September as
well. It's like I know you're going to be the
gentleman in town. So if you want to come in.
Yeah. I want to talk to the BA. And I'm
as well. Okay. Perfect. Well, I'm one of the members.
Yeah. So that's why it's like, you have been talking
to the BA. Just not as a PIA. Remember you
talk with as a business owner. Yeah. Usually after these
meetings, the thing is that he downloads the window. I
thought our plan is following. Well, of course, I just
got, but we typically do make it to donation to
DIA. Okay. That was going to be one of the
next questions. I know that was going to arise. So
thank you very much. Yeah. I think that again, with
what you guys provided here today, and I think it's
going to put a lot of the concern at ease,
um, and again, you guys are still working points on
the local business owners. Hopefully you guys can just get
all that sorted out soon. Yeah. Um, and again, pop
into the BI meeting on the first, the 106 o'clock,
probably done on, but I can, we'll get behind. Yeah.
Yeah. Uh, okay. That's it. For me. Anybody else, let's
go. Okay. So I can leave accomplished what we've sort
of said to do here today. And that is, you
came in and give us your process and what you're
going to do. You've heard of our concern. And I
think between us. We will keep it constant. Communication on
how we're going to do this. And hopefully we'll wish
ourselves both reduck. And yeah, something that in the end,
everybody will say, Jesus, that was great. But it's my
hope. And there we go. All right. Any more questions
for us. Uh, nothing from my hands. I just want
to thank you there, Soldman Council Tuesday. A lot of
us to present this team. Okay. So this will be
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Through the door and what are you. Going to do?
We're in an helmet. I don't see a helmet. Don't
ask me. I'm just like.
Do you do that helmet for that bike up there.
No, not yet. Oh. He. S not shreds a helmet
enough. Pretty much. Pretty much, but you know how hard
it is. To find something for this big deal. To
read about you on Facebook later. So we have a
resident concerned about and everybody had the townspire about the
e - bike. Saturation. I just heard what news yesterday
in Toronto's doing study started today. So having a lot
of problems. They had 540 nine collisions between pedestrians and
he likes last. Year. It is in front of their
mind. Their strategy is education. And then. Nobody is really
positive about where these e - bikes are. They're not
allowed on the sidewalks. I don't think anybody really knows
the rules. So where you can drive these things with
Cybox are. Placed. You can't. And the parking to them
too. So please leave in Toronto starting today are going
around. Just try to make people aware of where they're
supposed to be. In helmets and all the other stuff.
That was mentioned. And after the education pieces produced and
they think is known, then, um, Enforcement Logan. People being
claborately abusive. Education is taught. I think that idea. I
don't change the time earlier. That you've come to our
time in Arbits on our town end wherever our police
services touches. Like I said, shoulder. We're into one place
that we do. It's hard to enforce. E - bike.
Guys driving wherever we want. They are not. So I
don't know what the best attempt would be. Maybe something
on our site to say, look at these things off
the street. They're just going to be lips out. We
have to. Because you do notice. It on.
Thank you. All. So much. So the OPP and the
various services board met last month. For this exact thing.
E - bikes. Scooters. And the issues surrounding the various
communities. There is pilot program that was going down. It
still is. And it's been extended automatically to 2029. The
biggest concern with that at that time was that there
was no input from a few groups that are directly
impacted by. One is seniors. And the other is
disabilities. And how that relationship with the scooters and bikes.
On the sidewalks. Work. At this point again, I think
you touched on it as well, that there is sort
of limited. Can do. Um, but like e - bikes,
there are a number of rules with a knee bike.
With regards to the size. Needs pedals. Weight, top speed,
et cetera. But the scooters, there's a scooter. And so
the police are sort of on or on the board
of not so much enforcement, but education. Because you see
a lot of them granted anecdotally. But you see a
lot of the kids without comments. Pride in those bikes.
Or write those scooters. And they're not going slow. And
they don't have. Necessarily just one person on them. They
usually have two. So quite often they'll have. To. So,
yeah, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Um, and it's
something that the OPP is very well aware of, but
they're also limited by what they can do with respect
to the terrible how we traffick Act and other Ontario
regulations and Bylaws and such. So they recommend recommendation changes
is an education piece first. And, you know, because like,
the big thing is, if you see kids on bikes,
the majority of the kids on bikes are wearing helmets.
As soon as you get them on a scooter, I
don't know what's going. On. For some reason. And the
disconnect of, well, I'm here wearing that helmet on a
bike. And why you're not wearing a helmet on the
scooter. So that has to be tied together again. And
just good reserve by correctly, are inclinging allowed in bike
lane. They're more horizon vehicle. On this drive. They can't
drive at bike mode. Here it's like. And. I just,
like on the sidewalks, of course, dangerous tag. Because you
walk out of the grocery store and they go, okay,
he's coming 40 kilometers down the road. Bang. So we're
going to have to look at something. Just, I don't
want to throw anything yet. YouTube, but I guess with
our police, our, our aware of fact. And we are
going to have to do a. Is there be this
is the second letter root we have received as Council
and there's another one prior to this one as well.
Can I get those three separate? Inside of that so
I can forward it to attach me back and say,
Hey, listen, this is still an ongoing thing. So that
they're aware. And also as an FYI, one of the
questions asked that the meeting was with respect to injuries
caused by the East Energy bikes and there's no uptick
as it were possible. Does anybody say that they've been
aware of. For injuries with respect to these scooters or
the bike. So that was asked. But nothing, nothing that
they had on file that were specifically ISO or civil.
It might be something that it might be on a
question later on, bringing the hospital. So it was this
caused by. Test. Anyway. It makes sense. So what we'll
do is, yeah, get those two and four. Well, Detachmander.
I can imagine all the towns in our area. He's
the Detachment Commander. Who has the same problem. Had in
a unified way. Every time he's the same. Hey, come
on. Yeah. I mean, it's like Call John Carolina too.
We've, we've spoken about this. I think even before we
got complaints, we've talked about it. Because of just near
misses that we want to push on the observed in
town here. But I mean, it's just tough spot for
us. It's going to kind of start the mill, right?
Because we've already established a can of Brad J these
guys down. And same thing. I mean, it's on the
OPP to enforce. But the best thing we could do
is education educate the parents. But I think our last
house meeting I spoke myself. I've seen parents right now
with their kids doubling on the things. Like again, Councillor
John Colube too. And I mean, at the end of
the day, they're buying these things. They're letting them go
wild on them. Um, we're fortunate that nothing's happened yet.
But unfortunately, on wood, I like for something that happened
in a positive light before something does, but I mean,
yeah, we can educate and talk a little bit of
face. But I mean, there'll be some sort of enforcement.
Because even the bikes to touch on that, I think
as a, as an adult writing a full - size,
I think you're supposed to be on the road. Whether
it's a fight lanterning, how supposed to be on the
sidewalk. Scooters, I guess, have kind of fallen into a
grey area. Um, as you can touch on there, like
city Toronto. And I mean, this is all going to
brand. You can pick these things up off the side
of the road. Disease scooters and just go crazy. Right.
So. The, uh, they got to do something totally sooner
than later. Uh, but I guess I'm sure we provide
a correspondence. There you know. We want to, we are
aware. We have the discussion. Uh, we agree cohort to
believe that education is kind of the best. Right now.
Um, if there any parents watching or listening that Czech
B things, I mean. I don't know. I speak your
kids do better. But the amount of times I've seen
kids fly around these same for like six kilometers an
hour moments. It's crazy. I would never let them skip
one of these things like it. Right. Some of these
kids remind kids class. So I know how old they
are. And the two young to be operating these things.
Thanks. Yeah. Just one last comment. So the OVP has
pretty much come out and seed at least here locally
and detachment that they are not going to be able
to enforce their way of the usage of the e
scooters. So that's why I think one of the sort
of go to the schools possibly do an educational component.
Maybe we talk to the school boards and say ban
eat weights and these scooters off the properties. As well.
So the kids can't take them to school. So that
also might be satisfaction. So allow skateboards and scooters. Like
non - water. So officially to the capacity, I don't
know. I have to ask. I know a lot of
schools of fans skateboards like eons scooters that fell into
that. But there's now. You'd be interesting to see, I
guess we'll find out the next couple of weeks that
we see a catalogue up front. I also can't really
anticipate a kid wanting to leave that thing out there.
You can't walk it out of the same time. Yeah.
So then you just don't use it. They're going to
have to do an actual bike or no, I agree.
I don't think we'll start seeing them pop up there.
It's kind of what I'm getting at. I mean, they're
too expensive to lose. But I mean, yeah, it is
getting way worse. Cause again, the amount of times I'm
seeing the parents how double their kids. It just, it's
mind boggling. And I'm actually see them, they're ending up
over the ball diamonds. I saw this past weekend. Some
kids are taking a lot on Amaranths now. The takers
of the past, the trails, like kicking things off road.
You know, it's like the kids were in flip flop,
right? Like it doesn't make any sense. Like, you know,
um, we would hope that we wouldn't be having these
conversations. But, um. I don't know. I guess from a
talent perspective now, because I think we can put out
on social media, Facebook page is the easiest thing to
post. Hey guys, you know, we're aware of the concern.
Maybe step one, do this. Up to design. Um, is
there any age gifts you might notice? Is there any
atristrictions to these things? Cause I know some places we
were wondering 16 and under 16 is for e -
bike. But the scooters and scooters are scooter. And you
can see, like you said, I've seen little kids on
Juven had six year olds for her years, but I
don't think five, six, seven years old and around these
little bees. I was like, man, you get those bumps
on hammer at the end. Yeah. So that's why they're
on the sidebar. Anything that we put out, I would
like to see what the OP is putting. On. Yeah.
And we can just piggyback off of it or even
take what you've already done and share it. I mean,
that would be more ideal. The reality. So it's coming
from that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. Yes.
Okay. So back to the letter. There's mention here that
rules dictate by talent by loss. And we know which
ones. We have skateboard rull. That's all we don't have
anything else. So I, cause we are policy as we
respond to letters. Right. So. I'm assuming part of the
response to this letter will be that we have no
Bylaws specifically speak to scooters outside bottles. We'll organise Dean
for some type of to me. That's what I. So
technically it's not really illegal. Right. That or it's a
grey area. Cause it's a new, it's a new technology.
Right. And I think this is what we're saying. And
then we would pivot to here's what the OPP recommends.
And we repose that on our Facebook page, why not.
And then the other thing I can say is, you
know, I'm assuming we don't control grand violent collective. I
love grand value. You're making very community association. We will
not be posting on those. Right. Like we post and
they want to share. If they want to share, right?
But we're not posting on those. That's what I would
say to this later. And then yeah, we get it.
But I mean, at the end of the day, right,
this is a parental responsibility thing. Right. You don't want
your kid to have a head injury. At the very
least, put a damn helmet on. But I mean, I'm
not going, I'm not going to go around and say
I'm going to pay the OPP a whole bunch of
money to try to solve location from Roman Street at
home. That's not their problem. That's right. Do some hacking.
I think should I write some of that down or
do you get back? No, please write a couple points
just to, and that Council Direct Staff respond to the
letter. With your two or three points that you said.
Right, James? Just out of curiosity, the whole kids with
regular bikes wearing helmets. That, like when I was a
kid, that wasn't the thing. And it has been obviously
in the last 10, 15 years, all of a sudden.
It was a, so it was up a lot. Like
the winter book. I'm not sure if it's highly traffic
act or what, but there's, it's just a regular pedal
bike. Child under X needs to have a helmet. So
that's something that probably needs to be done. And again,
I don't know how that was enforced because all of
it. You just seem, just hurts a kiss and humbles.
And that's all they are. But now, because of these
e - scooter things, it's the same situation like that.
I think the biggest thing is a lot of the
direction and enforcement has to come from the province under
the highway traffic actor or whatever act of the use
for likes with using out. And how they operate when
move. The other thing. Cop's going to pull over a
10 year old kid. And I see your ID. They
do it furbice. I have a high camp. Their kid
doesn't need to have ID. No, but they do pull
them over and advise them. And I know some of
you, sage it, some smaller local police. They have the
opposite where they will award like give little gift certificate
to the kids found. With their own saddle. Yeah. That
was self - speciality. That's something that came up worrying
what they expected behaviours. But they go to their buddies
and say, Hey, look what I got. Because I was
doing this in the cops. Yeah. Question. Wie sits again.
You cited the trauma, what they're doing. The starting study.
What was the end date or anticipation? Uh, it wasn't
long. Well, I would like to, because the issue was,
it was supposed to go up to 205 or even
this year, but then they are maturity extended to 202.
Okay. That's what I thought. I thought I heard that
actually in there. This initial one is supposed to end
this month. Like the reason for the reason I'm asking
is because if that's what they're doing, that gives us
an anticipation on when we could expect some sort of
actual policy or type change. Right. So because like if
it was, you know, ending soon, okay, cool. Maybe afterwards,
they're going to say, okay, this is a problem. We'll
now adjust this accordingly to reflect motarized e bytes, E
scooters and whatnot. But otherwise, yeah, I mean, it goes
up to 2028, 2029. I mean, it's going to be
number of years. For those in any of that could
actually be enforced. I think they had enough complaints. I
hope so. Cause like I think the unit would touch
on. It's just this is new stuff. Right. So hopefully
they could just get ahead of it before again. We
can talk about, um, but again, it's just unfortunately, I
mean, even with these things, you're going to need actual
enforcement. And I mean, you could put something out today
and do your link here. There's still going to be
a group of kids running around. Right. So again, education
for the parents, I think it is almost important. But,
uh, hopefully you'll be peaking. So the pilot program is
sitting a requirements for elements, minimum age for the writers.
And weight and speed restrictions. I guess, how are they
going to govern the speeder strict? This is just a
UK. I think it's a good cake. It could be
Australia. They were all driving on the wrong side of
the road. But, um, they, um, they have. Specialized equipment.
That'll just pull over. And as soon as the C,
you're hurt a bunch of people on the bikes or
the scooters. A poll boar over here. And they've got
a little dynamil set up. And then. A little dilemma.
And they just tested or even they'll just take a
look at the battery roller size of it and all
that sort of stuff. Yeah. And ideally that would be
good. But I mean, the reality is like a lot
of these things are coming from China. I mean, they're
not governed at all. I can choose how fast you
want to go. They're supposed to be governed by, uh,
government in Canada with respect to. But this is the
size they're not going to. Well, they are one they
declare the mod that commercial invoice in Canada Barter is
supposed to be reviewing that. And it says it's only
a 500 watt. And unless they actually go and look
at it. But this is the thing. That comes in
at 750. Yeah. All right. Beautiful discussion. Uh, I got
a motion with my gene segment war. We resolve the
Council received the Public question regarding rise non - card
vehicles received from a house. And further the councill directs
staff to respond. There are no by loss that specify
mentioned E scooter. Staff. We'll communicate. The OBP and host
best practices on town's face page. Down does not control
the other pages mentioned in the letter and monoclosed. On
them, but encourages to share. Okay. And comments on the
number. We did it just.
CO. On camera. Start just in a little
bit Council know about small edition at the water flower.
So that orange will radio system has better. Communication of
this art. Took the, uh, took the lead on assuming
that there wouldn't be any issues with this. They're not
adding building changing. They're just plugging extra stuff in to
what's arguing there and all of our units. If the
questions have an answer, I don't, I don't speak technical
radio steep, but if you want to know the specific
sign. Inventory, what's it happens? So we know those peers.
What's going on top? No, it's inside. The water cap.
Yeah. There's, I guess they in the room there. They
have a repeater on it. And then the existing antenna
that's already up there will feed that. Doesn't have any
impact on structure. Carry on. Is it the same way
it's done on the Ornill To. Inside the tower. I
don't know. I don't know how they do it in
March for years. Oh, cause I would have assumed. It
was funny outside the. Call. Well, like the antenna is
over the outside. They're just using our interface. So I'm
trying to do it. Oh, they may have a little
building or something that they have theirs in our place.
There's a little room in the water tower inside if
that holds that stuff. Orange will man and set up
different. Same thing. I'm going to ask the obvious question.
I'm here. For somebody would ask if we're getting paid
for that. Are they just? I didn't mention rents or
anything. They're covering old cause. And it really is for
our benefit because they come over here all the time
for mutual aids. I didn't really think that would be
on work. I just thought it was on the record.
No problem. We're on orange roll. It doesn't cost the
wind act. Those would be like. Yes. So now on
the right, that's fine. Anyone else? Okay. Oh, get yourself
a Council of C's. Staff memory coverage. Service. Question on
favor. Mr. Port is regarding a request
for maintenance on the Gashtani. Forgive me if I'm saying
that wrong. Gosh, Toni drain into works. Johnny. Okay. Standard
process. They've just met the request engineer looks at what
needs to be done. We get somebody and do it.
Then we build that on there. Question. Let me know.
If I can't answer it. I'll try to get the
answers. But. Yeah, prospects fortune to all
land owners on the drain. Have vapened circulated because the
usually, I don't know for clean out if there is,
you can feel it or not. Or it's just. Fine.
A little bit. Cause I'm assuming everybody on the drain
would get some portion of it. Even though it's only
like building three or four that'll get the major kids
will happen. But everybody's going to get a bit of
it on the ceiling. So only one person asks for.
That. Is that how it was only the one that
was password and then everybody has the paper. Because they
all went, that those properties may not be the current
owners. But the problem is back in the day all
agreed that this was all happening on air proper. Right.
To take your point farther doesn't even matter if you're
able to land drains into it or not. During the
drag simply says, if you can bring into a range,
you have to pay. Because there is the potential kind
of that there. That's why I just wondering what the
appeal. But I think, yeah, with clean outs, because it's
not, if we were going to try to change the
drain at all, then. Which. Is 89
and 20, oh. Seven.
To save, c'est que ça manipule. So what? So they're
just going to do the park in blue. Is that
a tape? Every. Has to pay for. Those. It makes
the whole and it gets, of course, like they will
have the two properties immediately embody that section will pay
most of it. Because they have the biggest benefit. But
everybody, I'm assuming everybody will have a payload. Put it
down the line, it's a bit of a benefit for
everyone. There's a pencil benefit, right? Or maybe again, it
depends on the pair of city catalysts. I don't remember
what it is. All those properties in that outlined area
for watershed. Yeah. And again, the defendant's based on having
the acres to put it too, right? Because some of
those farms are, it's not the entire farm that's going
in. That provided this report. I did a little investigation.
In our laws tracking. And I do think that the
previous years as well too, in other sections. Thank you.
Yeah. All of you, great skip. Plaintiff's periodically, but it's
usually up to a landowner to passport. So a lot
of what happens privately because it's cheaper and faster than
just doing that. It makes her generally have your neighbours.
The questions on the backscore, cinema. We resolve the Council
receives the report. Cadget tiny draining works. Uh, Request.
Drain it. That counts except that drain works under section.
74, the Drain Jack 1990 signed by FedEx 10, owner
of Part Lot, 26 Concession 7 and for the Council
Council Direct. Towns Drained Super Boot. Intended Miles Douglas of
RJ Burn inside the associates. We have to proceed with
maintenance work on the Gatch Shine Drain Nature Works as
outlined in this letter. August 5, 2026. Equations aren't fair.
Is bringing, um, to Council's attention, the opportunity to participate
in, um, provincial province - wide discussions on modern wastewater
corporations. The intent of my bringing list to you is
to commit the town to saying, yes, we will switch,
but I think that we need to at least be
involved in the conversations. And, um. Where possible at least
put our feet back into it on the potential indications
of this new model for providing these surfaces. To the
community. Whether it may eventually become a provincial mandate that
you will switch. I don't know. It may just be
that they stick with the larger cities and let us
decide how we want to do it locally, but there's
definitely some changes coming. So I thought I present this
confirmation to you and let you know about this opportunity.
Questions. I mean, I think at the end of the
day, we're going to be told what we're doing. And
it's not going to matter. But it's better to let
each try that to just wait. So. Go for it.
At this point it's not causing. No. You could, uh,
just time. It's only you're sitting through these webinars. I
just want to rest. Let's hopefully. Mark. First, what am
I doing? No, it would be. Such an invision like
a corporation inside the corporation. Well, no, it wouldn't be
inside would be separate from, but recording too. But I
hydro. Like hyper, right? That's what I'm thinking too. Yes.
But becoming grand value water or duffer and water or
the greater governary and water or something. So we were
at the Western wardens yet to retopers. So there was
that, um, our die life. Yeah. You know from Alberta.
Is that sort of the same idea. Which was really
interesting and made a lot. You know, made you think
about it, but I'm still concerned about the prophetization of
water. But that's just personal thing. I mean, we, but
I think if we're not at the table, we don't,
um, we don't know what's going on. My. Wife said
she's talking about the job. And picking up. So on
there and super blonde. Back. So yeah, so that was
the same thing. Yes, it is. So I think this
is the initial stage. But I agree with that.
If you resolve the Councillor seeds reported expression of interest
water and way to our corporation model and that counts
of directs the CAO to respond to Rome's expression of
interest posting for water in wayswater corporations by August 13,
2026. I discussed.
Report is just an update to inquiry from Council regarding
the replication master plan. And just to let you know
that unfortunately. Master plan is not an eligible study under
our DCs unless we delay doing it Monday update the
plan or the DC that we can add it. But,
um. As it says, we can still definitely have doing
the master plan. It just feels like use NTC money.
Too. Okay. Just letting you know. That keeps. Carry on.
Okay. Oh, I guess we did the exit. Here's the
mammal. Question. Right. I apologise for having just popped up
there. I did just want to, if I may just
jump back briefly to the old, waste the. Water operation
thing. What's the down Unreal was reading through here? I
guess like in overall benefit, roll versus. Khan. Like what
is their own problem. To say, what do you guys
believe on that? Like we feel like it's a great
idea, a great move or just whatever. Sense I thought
was participate in the expression of interest. Okay. So that
we're aware of the conversations. But not really fake. Oh,
you're not. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I'm okay with that then.
Because like when I was reading through this, I was
like, I don't like this. I want to express that.
Okay. Cool. Okay. So I apologise for a jumper back.
But thank you for allowing me. But I think we
may not. Have much choice. I assume typically how these
things go as well. But in the meantime, you know.
We moved on. In. Yeah. Any computer. Yes.
Okay. So we never. Did the. Pressure. Plan, I guess.
How about a fact, I guess, so then going for
the grant now for the, uh, billion project and stuff
like that. In terms of like the master plan, like
let's just say it's done. And then it's the longer
part of it. I guess there's no heel.
Before, I guess, uh, to kind of a company that
requests for the grant that we're going after. For. The
mom. It would have. Yeah. How would you? Grand applications
submitted. We have the successful so far. Now, but she
translated. It's becoming more and more an emphasis in these
applications that you say, it's nice that you're asking, but
where did you decide that this piece of thing was
something you wanted to do. Yeah. So having that right
creation master plan will strengthen any of those applications. For
sure. I wasn't sure. What we actually had to do.
In terms of the great. Application. Motion move by. Second
by James, do you resolve this Council receiver update reputation.
Master plan. All right. The next subject is the financing
agreement. Community centre. Uh, between the three municipalities. We sent
them at an agreement a year ago. And they have
scented back with their amendment. It was sent to me
that they both have signed the agreement as presented in
your package. If felt Council is in concerns. I'm not
sure where he was. The question is for us, I
think you could sign this under restricted acts. If either
of the other two municipalities all into restricted acts, they
may not have assigned anything. Conspirations in their budget. So.
Um. Not all century hundred times those municipalities are meeting
before me. That council could probably be at least one.
If not more. Um, but unfortunately this is where we
are with this agreement. It'd be great. Great. We'll sign
and send it back. And turn over to the finance
department to build them and track it and all that
stuff. But there's still some back and forth meat. Then.
I have to take that time. Too. Negotiating or said,
all right, let's start. Lauren. Yeah. Number nine on this.
He's grand alley cease to seize boards pursuing. I didn't
read eight. I cowarded there's an agreement. But ground value
shell reimburse. Amen. Thanksgiffrax or for the total amount of
contributions that have been contributing to the agreement. Both of
us. So why would we do that? Especially we're ceasing
the board. I mean, it's probably for some sort of
good season. For you guys. So why would we want
to reimburse them. Especially that much. I don't have an
answer for that. Other than that, their position is that
they feel that if they're no longer on the boards
and they should be getting their money back at the
interview. Did we write this? Who wrote this? Sorry. I'm
assuming they're legal. Okay, right? Combination of EC. Yeah. We
definitely consult out our evil or a great day. They
can do it. I'll probably come back with this. Hopefully
wrap it up before this tremendous. I don't think sorry.
I don't know. It looked like you were free with
me here. I mean, this is just one thing. But
yeah, like we thought I really. Think they're kind of
going as a whole. I mean, we definitely want to
hand cover the box, so to speak. And just get
our legal opinion on this. And if there any changes,
I would definitely do that conversation rather than move it
forward. That's it. I believe our original agreement, our regional
document sent to them. I have it. Word such that
if the board ceases to exist, um, the municipalities have
any further obligations. But they've since added this compensation piece.
To it. And I would, I, just anecdotal he wrote
that their position is that if they're. If their constituents
don't have representation in operating a facility, then they should
not have to have had contributed capital to that facility.
Even if it was years ago. That's their question. I
just, I just want to clarification because it says should
grant vale cease to participate. So is that a grant
valley? Just like this room decides we're not, we're not
doing the board anymore. That's right. Which one essentially mean
that we're taking over. Oh, yelled in the building. I
understand. Okay. Misunderstood. I understand. So if we decide, oh,
that, okay. Cause then it said the next one says,
if either one of the other two don't want to
participate, we don't owe them anything. They just, it would
stop. But it's if we decided we don't want to
play anymore. Okay. Let's do. Thank you. Does this reflect
the amount of C cells on the board disagreement. Is,
do you know where. I'm here? That's not in this.
No, there's that in this. That's also a discussion. I
think we should have. I mean, we're about 16 two
or. Six one percent. I mean, we should have our
compensation. Right. Cause I do come in from the fire
side, right? I mean, like we, we have so much
more stake in it. And I guess responsibility, especially physically,
their financially, sorry, I'll say, but I mean, they have
the same amount of same amount say, you know what
I mean? Like if they just fire is different, the
community said, no, I understand what a piece. How many
members still think maybe Centre boards? If you have 50
grand valley has 50 percent of that board. It's four
from us and then two from the other two. Okay.
So it should be one less from either one of
those parts. So they're shooting four for granted valley and
three from the other two. Let them figure it in
those three yard. But it should be four and three.
But that's not the discussion. No, no, I'm, yeah, that's
fine. Okay. So. I'll let you guys. Yeah. James. So
just sort of. Expanding more on the planners question. So
grey Valley decides to, I just wanted a straight and
clear in my mind. And grandma hat decides to see
the participating. We would volunteer to pay, what is it,
the reimbursam or Anthony's carry for the total contributions. That's
one of your grand value decides to pull it. Now
if either one of those two pull out, which is
section 10, we don't have to pay them back. But
we just sort of carry on by ourselves at that
point. So is that clear that we're not paying them
back? I believe so bad. They, if you read down
into section 10, then the contributions of that non -
participating municipalities shall be in the end. And.
Oh, just in paragraph A, B existing border agreement, um,
so the board shall continue to be responsible. For the
debt. It's not saying that because there are now another,
the board agreement says that if a municipality leaves, they
are responsible for any depths that they incurred. Essentially operating.
That's what they're getting on here. But they're saying with
the board agreement covers any operating Details. And yes, if
Amarith leaves Amaranti, we compensate for the deficit that the
responsibility for as board. But not the capital globe of
the County. Not, but they don't want their money back.
But they're also not going to make the rest of
the payment going forward. That's what that number seven, I
don't think that actually works in this situation. Point seven.
Is that any money contain. Hey, yes, it does. Because
we have, we have our annual unabs that we have
to pay. And if we get a sponsorship, then we
would use that money towards those annual payments. We can't
use that as a lump sum. No, I would just,
the way I read it is that if we say
we get a three easy numbers, a hundred thousand dollar
naming ranked. Is that a hundred thousand dollars is to
go to decrease the loan. But we don't have a
loan, do we? We have a venture. Yeah. So the
way that doesn't decrease it. Well, we can apply it
instead of taking money from townships. See, but that doesn't
increase it. You're right. And I think that's not clear
there because they think though all of a sudden it's
called. It's not one point one million all of a
sudden we only have one. So no. I see. So
okay. Even if I made, I think we should have
kinned killers discuss the use of that. Those funds. I
mean, there we could do that. Should you get like
a, uh, you know, great. Yeah. Okay, because those are
important to discuss that, you know, any, whatever cool, but
at least have the discussion rather than just automatically to
do this. My biggest concern is. A number of years
down the road. East Carrier. Probably more so those
directly to the east of us. We'll say, you know
what we're going to pull out again. Yeah. Want our
money back. But this is very deliberately saying. It's not.
Okay. That's my big issue. We get some of that.
I want to ask my biggest thing, especially the 17,
18 years and say, yeah, you know what? We're pulling
up now. It's like, yeah, you know, it does put
work that way. Maybe after four or five, but. Sorry,
how long is this agreement for? 20 years. Oh shoot.
Yeah. We really got. Would it even be in our
interest? Interest interest. I had something in there about the.
Sorry. For you. Oh. Good. Okay. Any others I can
take that. Okay. I'll tell you what Pulse. Conservative Number
9 and 12. Limited the number of years
to five or six. BAC cram values. I think that's
been compromised. I changed 12 and take out. Satisfication. And
just that if we leave the board, there are not
entitled to anything. That's what we need is how do
you hear. No, thank you for the fourth. Time. That's
right. But if we leave the board, they're not. Weird.
Um, three. So I wasn't here when the original agreements
or the decision was to move forward with the expansion
centre. But was it not a four decision that that
should be done? Tropically agreeing. Okay. So. If it was
agreed by the port to take you the construction and
necessarily fund it to the two and a three point,
somewhat million dollars. How can we have a board member
leave and ask them for their payments to be reimbursed
and also that the relief of all future applications considering
it's their joint city to you at construction. You can't
take the construction back. Say it's done. That leaves the
full bill potentially on towns. Oaks for the next 20
years. And that's a three million doll alone. So we're
talking about, I know it's an expression in interest on
the other item that we were talking about with regards
to. Municipal corporations. But any debt that we're taking on
that also be left. And if we're doing internal borrowing,
that's a form of debt. Uh, Decine dollars or somewhere
that it would just a lot. Of unknowns that Municipality
may not be the difference. But this one here is
definitely known. It was definitely agreed to by the board
members to enter into this. I don't see how it
can be fair that they can aim request. To be
reimbursed. And please themselves of any future. I mean. That's
my. I agree with you. You're here. Because had that
been identified in the onset. Than the town A of
me. Different decision point forward. To put this completely on
the towns with tax bill. That's a lot to ask
of one municipality. And I don't know any business that
would agree to. Expanding capacity for a customer. And then
allow the customer to walk away two or three years
later or whatever the time frame is saying they want
their money back. For all the services that they've used.
And also I think there's, I think there's got to
be some sort of guarantees to someone. If I'm going
to build something, then there'd be some guarantees that you're
going to have a commitment for a term to actually
use the facility. For just to see part. Of that
paper. Just to respawn to treasure comments
there, I agree, but I think also at that time,
it could have been still sitting here at this point.
Trying to negotiate agreement. And we still would have had
nothing built. But I think that we decided at that
point just too. Let's just get the duct tape, go
through. And then do this afterwards. But in the midtime,
it's no. So. I think we can have a result
of it. But that decision. Yeah. This is a great
deal for Amor Anthony's scary. Under great deal for us,
but it's the best one we're going to get. And
I think we have to acknowledge that. I don't like
some of them at the end of the day though.
I understand where the treasure is coming from, but if
either one of the townships leaves, and which I think
is possibility, what's going to happen is that their residents
that use the facility will end up paying through the
notes. As a way of covering this, right? Like that's
how we're going to do it. The only risk in
here for the town really is the town deciding that
we don't want to be part of the board anymore.
That's the only big financial risk that I see. Right.
So after that, I see kids re scary and amarrhym.
If you want to play hockey pain. Right? And then
they can be pissed off. But not the house link
kids. Just where are they going to go. For? Are
they going to pay that much there too? Orangell has
ridiculous out of pound rings. You gripe. That's the whole
thing. So, so I don't see that. Like I don't
see the other mutaties leaving as I have a risk.
I see very upset residents from those municipalities when they
get a bill from us. But that's not going to
be our problem. That's going to be a brand to
be scary. Um, so I think we signed this because
or else it doesn't happen. Like I don't see, I
don't see it. I don't see another deal. And I
see and I see as men having to make paper.
I would say that. Before we do, we kind of.
Denote. Steve for me. It is contributional there because I
agree with a balance. At least how this special legal,
see what we can come up with. Um, and if
at the end of the day, this is the best
we get. We have that discussion. We can see it
as. What. The opportunity. How. The decision is made. You
guys lovely set it. So. Okay. So the deal that
the deal is for us. Is if we stay as
a member of the word and don't read, we don't
know anybody anything. Right. They are shared. Yeah. We just
make a payment after they. The implication is that it
is written in here that if one of the leaves,
the other one doesn't have to paint more, right? We
have to pay more or find that money more. It's
on grand family. It's time the mold. Of them. For
the rest of them. Yes. If I want you. And
that lets you mention, we get that from. Hydrogen. That's
one. I think we can all agree that it's quite
likely that within the next 20 years. As the disagreement
is that there's something that's going to change. So we,
we can't necessarily prepare the. Kind of hit plus. Look
at the tax base. And, you know, an anticipation of
what mayor, you know, what we know is going to
happen. We can't be blew. More of them. So I
think it's definitely worth safe. Something. In there, at least
to the tune of the amount of whatever it was.
Um, it would also then discard some belief. But. What
do you do when they don't agree to it? Right.
Like that's anxious. It's taken a year and a half
to get to this. That's what we built at first.
And we have to make a payment. Like. Anything to
pay, I believe they've been billed for everything up to
the end of the grant. Nothing since then towards the
diventure. Not my neighbour.
Sorry. James, you're going to make some rep. I'm. Curious
how I see perpynext. I guess the deception talked about
previously. What was it in the community support me going
to, well, just build it and figure it out later.
And we're going to do a new agreement or what
was the. Not quite, but it was sort of like
when we were going to build a day, everybody seemed
to be, yeah, okay. Something happened. To
one of the, one of our partners. Nothing that we
did to, but somebody else didn't make a little bit
of. Sidetracked. I fell in that bit. For the ultra
suspicious of everybody. And when they presented for this discussion.
So I don't think that there shouldn't be zero concern
then to hold them accountable, the decision that was made.
Because they were a part of it. And they can't
turn around and say, Oh, well, I can't do anything
to decisions. Okay. And again, I think. Even I'm going
to go very well. And I don't see any issue
or something. And then I have to protect us. Cause
again, what is the alternative they leave? Be nothing else.
And then we're stuck holding today. It seems to be.
Out there. Yeah. I think ideally they won't leave. And
continue to. But they're also nothing wrong. With having such
a state price. Because again, supposed for 20 years, unless
you want to change the time frame of how long
this runs for. Make sure, uh. Okay. I don't know
how to. Get back. To this thing. I don't want
to. Complicate this too much. If it's been so, so
difficult to get this far. But including something else seems
like the lower. Apps, I guess, right here. Uh, we
can just up on point of clarification. When I think
it's a nine second part of the agreement or my
report. I don't know. I'm just wondering if there's any
more in the agrair. Grand Valley is required to reimburse
the camera and East Aerofax for the respective contributions. Yeah.
That means even the contributions towards matching the grand place
from, no, it's just on the debt, right? That each
have contributed under this. Three. Times. So by signings before,
so this is the worst. Thing. If you're a success
of cancels, they want to shut down the board than
grand valley. We'll have to reimburse them. And that would
be made noble to cancel, but the Council at the
time. Okay. So can't reverse. You have a lot of
money. Especially you have to do it after 17, 18.
Years. Yeah. But wait till the last minute. Yeah. I
don't do. That. Let's just need to be
rewritten as to quarter as. Though. So should this happen
within X number of years. That the following show in
place. So I can say we would get back up
to five years. Yeah. Three years to get back to
your 17 years. They only get five years back. That
might be, that's something I thought about. I told him,
I don't know. They would go for that. But that's.
Not a little quirk negotiation. What could happen given that
October 26. We have a new election. There may be
a new council in either one of these municipalities. This
agreement could become before them. And then they could just
say, look, we want to leave. Right? From what I
understand, there have been no payments made so far. Because
the first team is doing November. So nothing would be
nothing. But yet is this Council Continuous office four years.
And at the end of that term of Council, you
could have to pay that four years ago. So just
considering rewriting those paragraphs to put in some timelines.
I want to spend all your work. Like again, great
ideas. How many years of payments does the kind of
brand value on the main, which I was getting reimbursed?
That's what we're, because if we negotiate, it's all on
us. And we will never get those back for damn
sure. Correct. Right. They won't say, Oh yeah, we'll, we'll
make up. Like right into your disagreement or nothing. Right.
Like I think we have to look at it that
way. And I get trying to make it better and
clear. But we all know who we're dealing with. Right.
We have been dealing with these people for the last
four years. I know exactly what's going to, if we
don't sign this, nothing happens this term. And I suspect
nothing ever happens. They just leave. And then we've got
a hundred percent of it and then we're fighting like
out. Again, the only risk I see here is the
kind of grain valley pulling out the board. And if
we get 50 years out of the road, we can
grit our teaks for another five. Right? I get it.
I don't like this. I like this screaming either. I
really don't. All right. It's best we're going to do.
And the problem is yeah, we're suck because this is
the last chance we have to do with your sign
it or we kiss a goodbye. If there's no negotiating
anymore, not this year. That's just real. Oh.
I just go stand. I want people later intimi. On
the risk of that. If that's what they want to
do, you can, the other. I'm using. We can get
rei. That's their. Cut too. I mean, the decision. The
responsible. But already.
For signing this end over. It'd be sort of one
plug your nose and do it. But like I said,
I think clarification needs to be a number seven or
the anything. Um, long is we don't have to pay
them back. If they decided to leave, then other than
the fact that we just carry out with. Yeah, as
long as we don't have to pay them back. Cause
I just need traction. The recommendation was to sign it
as is. Not peace and all means a bit different
option of counts.
There's an 0. 7 is going to be an issue.
That somewhere around the line that we get a naming
rate. And they say, well, I'll come alone is still
whatever it is out for so many years that should
have been paid to that. That's why it's subtle model.
They'll set them off another conspiracy. Oh, not only. Screw
them again. This isn't, I don't think it's in this
one. I think so another one. They said that, you
know, that doesn't come. Then the building should go to
the challenge. Or not to the attachment to the County.
That's not in this one. There is a thing in
here. There's something, but if the board, it's understood that
if something else weird happens or if it goes to
the county as a part of a county upload, then
we then negotiate. It doesn't go into that, like you
said. I guess why, why would. Something like that.
Well, see the province forces of amalgamation. Well, that would
be like, yeah, it's different. Right. And then that's what,
that's what that points kind of trying to. Take your
weight. Sometimes maybe I've read it like instead of having
grand alley get something. We'd rather have it uploaded to
the county. Okay. Well. We can do something.
There's a motion that could be voted on and then
something else. Or great something different. You're right. I'm done.
I'm not reading anything on to this motion. I'm just
putting on who's going to, no, I won't even do
that. You put all moving. Okay. That's fine. There's not
a secondary. You just don't feel bad. Zoros has to
go across the room because Lauren's not. Goodness man of
pet. Oh, don't worry. I've always got back up. James
Dent, you tired to get up. No, I'll get it.
Councillor John. You resolve the Councillor sees the report Community
Centre financing for execution. The further that Council approves the
insurer municipal agreement for the expansion and rehabilitation of the
manual industry community centre as amended. By the townships of
Amreth, he's scared. And as presented with the report authorizing
the mayor and clerk to sign the Bylaw and directs
F to prepare and present the necessary agreement by law
for passing. Any questions on the motion to be. Recorded.
What. Can I have a question? Good question of the.
CAO. Um. So if we were going to, if I.
Only ask for clarification of a percent. Another. One where
we have the. Small enough modification at a VAL clarification
in the affirmative. That you can still sign it. Same
or substantially the same. Yeah. And that's the only thing
you're going to be allowed to do. 10 days. Now.
And I'm not having a special meeting at the top,
but you can call whatever BT you want to show
up. To just have one of this. Thanks. Like with
that, because I don't mind getting that. But I, right,
like I get where people are coming from. But at
the end of the day, it's disagreement or not. Right.
If we want some clarification around the time, but we're
not, like go renegotiating is not an option. It's basically
trying for a brand new agreement next term. That's it.
Then I would move to Amendment Duck. But yeah, to
try to come up with a new agreement. This is
the best we're going to, especially we're going to do.
Here. Possible. I think they're going to get worse from
here. And the only, and as we were saying, the
worst thing that happened. Is if, well, they're going to
jump out. Quite. Blank. At some point, we don't open
any money out of. Time. Or do. That's. Going to.
Be, if they call, if they're out of it. And
we trust. Yeah. We would be over one. We can
collect that money in different way. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This
is good. With the, uh, with the higher ice time.
For just being coverage. Whether you can figure who's in
that return. That's this and the other book called. The
90 programming that. People would have to register. Like for
every program, they have to give their assets. They're massive
surcharge for it. It's not as simple as just like
when you register your kids for hockey. And the other
ways that would have to be verified. They would be
a huge trust that they would have to pay all.
And then also now cost complicated for the. Telegram value.
Oh, no, no. It would be no, but we have
to. Do our intelligence. From really. Every little thing. In
regards. But sorry regarding that community centre. Where are you
going from? Are you going to get just. One? It
would be a nightmare. It's not, that's nothing new. It's
municipalities everywhere. Let's continue. So yeah, so that's my question
there. If we rewrote a new resolution and reflecting the
hand, I'm asking the question now, could we do it.
Yes. Yes. And you could still sign it. We could
still sign it either with, with, um, rewarding of question
seven to clarify that is not a longer. And let
me, any rights, Honnie could go against the venture payments.
Um, I don't think that would be material enough to.
Eight convince them not to sign it or be, um,
change the rest of the nut that we have to
bring them back to. Kent. You're saying either sign this
is that we had clarification on numbers. I'm just trying
to figure out how bad. I make a function commanded
to kind of. Further that. Yes, I'll go ahead on
how about, um, receive the report. And where did the
Council Cruise the Internet Juvencible agreement for the expansion and
rehabilitation in principle? Cause you're approving it in principle. As
a mentioned by the conscious timer. And then include and
further that South be directed to see clarification with respect
to paragraph seven. And then what we can do and
that. Pass the bylaw itself once you receive that notification
at the September 8. Because you're looking for direction that
you're looking for clarification. That could come forward as hell.
And that you'd be authorized projected by all the passing.
And. Execution of the next. Class. Because Brady, because this
would be fine to sign if we're under restricted acts
after the 21st. That would be a question of the
treasure as to whether are these payments in our. Yes
payments are our already in our budget. Yes. So. I'm
really, you're just looking for, you are approaching the agreement
in principle with just that clarification with respective paragraph setting.
Ad. To a. Special. Whatever we need to do, make
this right. So what is
your, just before. I get to, what is your main
concern? Yeah. Well, I mean, again, moving past number seven
there with. Number. Nine or 10 we were discussing. Here.
About. The mind road or whatever. I think honestly the
biggest concern, I'll just get back to it as the
decision was made for, again, the project and whatnot. So
I don't think they should be able to leave. Before
all the money's are collected. I would be happy if
there was clause in there so they shoot to leave.
I mean, they're still responsible for set money. I like
input as well. Um, because again, year two from year
10 year 17 will also be very different. Should the
town of Grand Valley choose to, I'm okay with that
one. Cause again, it's, it's likely not going to have
going to happen. We have to look at what's reality
here. And it's like, do one of them is going
to leave. Uh, we have an opportunity now. To try
to make this a little bit more in our favor.
Um, the discussion was that everyone was on board regardless
of someone got the feelings hurt. And you know, we
feel a certain way. I don't think that the Counter
Grand Valley should be responsible to make the shortfall. That's
not fair for us. I understand yet we can make
up some monies probably over the next 25 years without
a town ratings, but it's going to take a heck
of a long time. Um. And then, I mean, there's
a lot that goes into place as well for what
we have to ensure that we're making. We have a
town who is not. I don't know. I'd be comfortable
with making the minor changes as we're discussing. But again,
we think that the amount that's old, they got to
be responsible for it. Um. They will still be responsible
for if they continue to be members of the board.
Yeah. My concern though is that the AIs commitment and
then they decide what even two years. And now they
just, you guys figured it out. Yeah. Right. That's not
fair. The decision was made collectively. Between the three venous
of penalties. To go ahead with this. We went ahead
with it. It's now done. And like Steven said, you
can't take it back. Right. And this is what I
was asking about how the conversation went in there. Obviously
people were part of it. Right. I don't think that
they should have that opportunity. That's not fair. Um, and
no amount of outdown fees are going to make up
for the amount of available. It's going to be cool.
But again looking at the prospective out of town fees
for the residents incredibly high. Do you think that would
maybe entitlement stay? Well, so this would also be something
that we would have to include. Right. Like this would
be part of the conversation. If we're that concerned that
they're going to just walk away, we got to let
them know what then they're facing. I don't want to
go to that extent because then it's just going to
create a disaster. Right. Like I don't want to do
that. I just want to say look. And then the
nicest legal way possible. They owe this money. So I'm
through you, Mr. Maris. One thing that I'm looking at
the actual agreement, Idon 10, thus specifically talk about the
board's agreement. Uh, under 8 B being responsible for debt.
So I guess in their existing agreement that dead, they
are responsible for debt for the future. It's specifically saying
it's excluded. Yeah. That's all they want. Right. And so
it's in their regular board agreement, but now they're for
this particular item. They're saying they want it to not
be applicable. But this gives you like, should one party
leave again? Only grant valleys goes up. And then the
other one's just going to go, okay, we're going to.
Is that in the existing agreement that we have like
with all of our courts at the debt and so
many committee centres? Yes. I don't remember. What the other.
I think I remember tried on having someone. Think was
again, the discussion about the amount of members. I'd be
okay leading that as well. Um. It is what it
is. But again, yeah, wherever it. Is.
The composition. The grand value is scheduled to purple to
a certain, if we may be in eight percentage. Uh,
east gear fractal contract. And less people than to be
an amateur. Ratio is now
60, 25, 15. So we're putting the. Lighting chair.
So my dozens, we cannot, cool. This, something has to
be done with this resolution. So. It was asked to
be a reported, it was asked if we want to
do a quote - unquote. I don't know that I
was directed to do it as a, because we did
amend it. To reflect the section seven. Minu. Corrections. There,
but it's not going. To be. A journey. We do
have money. There you go. Prais. There is a.
Motion before us. Do we want to record this. You
want to bring it to them? Yeah. No, we know
right now. Motion group by definite Council John. We resolve
the Council receives the report commander, Senate Financing Agreement for
Execution. The further that grandioly approves the principle, the intervenes
of agreement for the expansion and rehabilitation. Going to the
audit community centre as amended by the townships of Cameron
and Gary. Deer practice. As presented and with this report.
Uh, further that this Council directs CAO to have section
seven. Use of additional monies towards future, diventure payments
as these monies would not decrease the amount to. Anybody
understand the motion. Colossus. For the reason that it directed
to. Sign it. Well, or. Ask questions, right?
That's what I want to say. Yeah. That's what I
want to clarify. That's where we're actually building all of
your. Voting on here is that we would get that.
I would bring it back to this tempera meeting for
the By - B - Law to be passed. Okay,
that's what we're doing. We're not going to actually signing
it. I would include the other things. We're defering it.
And we're going to let's defer it. Things you play
to have like the composition of the board? I said,
I would, I'm, I'm willing to put that aside to
the biggest thing that is just world money. They agree
to it. Like we've got to hold them accountable. I've
already established that they've made this in their best interest.
We cannot continue to operate like this. To just send
their best interests. We have no other choice. We have
to pivot as someone. We have to protect. How their
value and the trust. Because we know that they're going
to lead at some point. Right. So we need to
establish something that Texas. I think as the jury is
pointed out. This agreement goes. By the weeks. Of Jerusalem.
How. Do we go forward. To that. Well, we're all
in agreement that it's probably going to happen. In some
way, shape or form. And that's why, and that likes
comments regard some other ways we can do this as
well. That would also protect us for years limiting. Company
oak and what have you. I need to contribution. Yeah.
Sorry, Donna. I'll let you, because I don't want to
para. Incorrectly. I have to. Say. No, that's okay. Um,
is that if the paragraph wants to be reworded that,
um. Should one of the board members wish to withdraw.
Would only be responsible for paying X number of years
back. It wouldn't be so safer instance. You wouldn't, you
wouldn't in a 15 years, let's say 10 years more
reasonable amount in a 20 year halfway through. You wouldn't
want grand value out to pay back 10 years worth
of installment payments, right? I mean, you are absolutely correct.
This is very advantageous to a town that is growing,
that has projections to grow as well. You could be
using this as, okay, in 10 years, emerent may want
to build their own community centre, knowing that they, if
they leave the board, they're going to get this X
number of dollars from Grand Valley. They can use that
money to put towards the cost of erecting this facility.
So knowing, okay, you exit, you're only going to get
X number of years back. You guys have to dispay.
Yeah. We're basically going to work almost giving reassurance that
we're not going to be the monster. Pull 12 on
the board. But we don't do that. But this is,
you know, so, and again, like we need to do
more. I think. Donna's comments and I'm both very good.
Now, if you guys all disagree with me, I mean,
I'm not owed in any way. I can go ahead
and just want to, what you're asking is more fundamentally
changing the agreement where it's just changing section seven is
just warming. Up. So passing this would just be working,
clarified. No, no real. Anything back to amarends here. Practice
other than they come to pass a bylaw to have
passed the amended would not. But I said, we still
don't have to make it in something else to reflect
what we're discussing here and go on it. And correct?
Yes. So yeah, we don't want to be saddled by
failing for 10 years. We're going to 10 years. If
they leave, if they say, Hey, we're at, we don't
owe their money. They just won't pay us rest of
their own car. I think that they should. Yeah. Well.
It's in this world. I'm asking. I mean, like, you
know, I get to see what's keeping it up here.
But I mean, explain it quite clear. Deals a deal
in their homes. And Donna brought up another very valuable
point. As she was reiterating for previous comment there. But
so we wrote in, if we. Passed as is because
if you're wanting to change those rings, then you're not
approving. This. There hasn't created in terms of that whole
thing was a quick. So since this has been after
this motion needs to be passed or slight vote at
all. It needs to be there for wild past. You
don't have to, you can vote against it in order
to defeat the motion. And then you do something else.
Okay. So. Is this a recording thing or do I
just say elevate. Counsel. All right. So this is just
to amend section seven just to clarify. That's the only
thing we're talking about. Here. Councillor Dirt. Councillor Johnker. Yes.
Uh, Councillor Platinum is absent. Detapy Marench. Project. Yes. Mayor
Solomon? Yes. Okay. If you define the number, then we
can recess the link to Jesus. Also, I think it
looks like it carried. It did carry. And again. To
clarify, though, this is now just reflecting number seven. This
is not good direction to sign the increasement even with
that or it does. No, it's coming back toward B8.
You've said that you agree with everything else in principle.
Right. I did. Well, the vote Democracy decided to say.
I just want to clarify. There will be no one
changed. So I'd say well. All right. Democracy.
You could make a function of your re - election.
Good morning. That's why she's here. We could bring that
forward. There is that needs to do that. Can you
do it? You're not just going to walk out the
door. Can we wait five more minutes. There was, uh,
I believe there's, remember the Odyssey regret. Possibly already planning
the planners. No Public Works. All three one. It's okay.
To pull that event on. So you know that. Okay.
So you are still on. Okay. So we're going to
move ahead to 1231. Which is a. Fun mat order.
It's on maths, but we wrote it, I wrote it.
We wrote it together. Okay. So if the questions, I
can answer. All right, well, it's a request from, uh,
for parking area off chemistry. Mark, did you want to
read it? Just quickly, um, that, uh, we went out.
We looked at first, I got, yeah, this shouldn't be
an issue. But then when I came back and I
started reviewing as a report says. The town can do
anything. They want to do any heart except in environment,
which action plans. So an environment protection lands, which these
property is cell, uh, does not permit a parking space
or a parking garage or a parking lot. We have
a thing is that both of those properties, so the
cells property, neither of these two properties on the, I'm
a location plan. Have we missed those numbers, but rule
number three, four, nine, 600, we own. And then went
to the north, three, four, nine, 700 is owned by
the conservation authority. I believe that the parquet or the
feature is in artwork. It's right to the corporate to
triangle. So, um, I reached out to the conservation authority.
And they said that there has to be some, it's
not just simply doing permit. They would need some other
reports. So basically we would need to reselling the tab
initiated resulting to allow out to parking CO. And, um.
We would have to apply to the conservation authority. For
her permit. Don't know what anyone else is going to
say in particular, the county, because they may, they someplic
because it's a garment's protection. They don't know. Um, we've
given the costs. So basically looking at direction from Council
as to how you want staff to perceive. With this
project. On the face of it, like the planner said
at the beginning, it looked like B's a simple review,
but it seems to be a lot more convoluted because
it is EP. It is on the floodplain. Um, you're
looking at 7, 000 dollars just for, uh. Working filled
here. It's only my line, then 2500 TCA department, GRCA
of permit, 4, 500 dollars. And that's not actual, but
you're already at 7, 000 dollars. And you haven't even
done anything yet. So much as I appreciate. Like where
it was going. And if it wasn't just a matter
of putting in a Colbert and putting some dumper too
on it, but this is getting a lot more. Uh,
complicated. Then I don't think that was even Derman initial
intention either. So at this point I would say. Don't.
Want to, too, but. For that kind of money for
a simple parking pat. There's. How big as the particle.
The hit two or driveway with two cars. Mason is
part pulling there so the array and club can get
in there or to town or. I say we do
it. So you're not running into the G platform. Well,
I mean with respect to cardinal club, I mean, we
appreciate what they do. They don't do anyone else. Or
it becomes a town thing to do. Right. Four man
hours. You only have to hire someone else. You know,
they only ask us for very much so with respect
to them.
This is what we're supposed to be plenty, funny, seven
project and budget discussion. I think this is great information.
That's our close. That's what I wrote down. I think.
It worked. And the next council will be informatizated. Yeah.
Previously, we saved me away. We're feeling, but I imagine
the next budget's going to be where the Starfast is,
but it was. Your mouches away. I just received it.
Did receive it and just keep having these conversations. You
have to sign instead. No, I'll be able to change.
I would just do it. So I will. Push it
off. 27. That's what we said we were doing. I
think you were here for that. Thank you. Weren't. So
they're basically, which doesn't mean the budget involved by answer,
they believe. And on your park. Okay. And you have
a direction at that point in time that we would
do if this did go forward, it would happen, 20,
27 for. That. All right. That's what you requested. Yeah.
Okay. John Carpell Council Staff Mammon Grand Valley Garden Corpo
Quest for parking area off Chemistry. And further that discussion
continue during the 27 budget process. Any question. It's all
in favor.
Of Stat 1 o'clock or return at 1 o'clock. Sure.
Details most of the things are on other parts of
the agenda. I don't think I have anything in dishwashing
to it other than the application for. The. Building that
Concession G3 Park is. Ready. And sent to the trailer
to the County and had a conversation with Becky Willed.
She said, yeah, I'm like, take a look at what
he said. If the questions or if anything I forgot
to update on, please let me know after you discuss.
Council. Discus. 3. Do you still
sit on that for me? Matt and James are. Okay,
so they're looking after that and they're just pressing. Okay.
Wait, that one. S not. I think daughter you sent
the resolution to the chair of the committee, but I
don't think it's a bit. So both resolutions, one with
respect to the donation that was passed out to the
BIA and the other one about change. Very. Good. We'll
be discussing. We haven't discussed that, right? Yeah. 10 seconds
for you, Mr. Merrick. Cold shops are allowed to Council.
Colt shops. Anything had those pop shots? Whatever they take,
they get through. They're like that size. They're like six
percent alcohol. Ooh, they're great. They have all boy pull
shots now. And by the way, the Dhanna, I have
to give you props up. These pops are more affordable
than buying a small pop. You get that much for
less than what you pay for a small puck. So.
They're not speeding personally unhealthy. As you stress this page.
All right. Oh, good. Next, oh, I didn't know if
any questions were anything else. If not, that's what I
was good. Okay. So just to receive that right. There.
By filming by one. Here is all the Council receives
the report CEO progress update for information birth. Colin Baer.
So I'm next on my list, Director of Finance. Hey,
Mr. Mayor. Before you Council, I have, um, my regular
update. Not much has happened since our laxa meeting, he
was on the 21st of July. However. I'm pleased to
announce that we've had a few more individuals that were
registered with taxistics on their properties. We have, um. A.
So we had eight properties. We are down to now
five properties. Three of them paid. Their arrears. So when
we look compared to, we're looking at a decrease of
approximately, and it was difficult to kind of put this
in words, but the last report indicated that we had
approximately tax of rear certificate registered.
And now we have 85. However, since the previous report,
all properties that have been registered. Uh, which were at
the process where we might have been moving forward into
tax sale proceedings, those have all been paid off. These
are the results of the newest batch or, like I
said, eight properties that are registered this year. So we're
down to nell just having five properties. And, uh, the
talks of more properties, big impayments. And this week. Property
taxes, our rears have hung down. We're now down to
about 933, 000 dollars. Versus where we were at, or
sorry, we're at 858, 000 where we were at 933.
Prior to that 1. 5 hours. So that progressively does
decrease because we haven't had an additional installment come due.
However, in my next report, the August 12th installment, uh,
for any payments that have not been made for that
installment roll, uh, comprise our makeup, some of our rears
tolls. Also the accounts receivable for the town. I provided
the update. On those. As a result of Council. Di
and Resolution with regard to write off. He called that
park accounts receivable is no longer included on our strength
of goll's listing. It has been written off. And we
have, um, we continue to monitor our accounts to see
the rules. So the items that are in the current
column. Just represent our data days. We do have the
items related to Lambron slash Sam Municipal and Caldreme, which
we will be moving off the less than tagging it
to property taxes so that we can recover those from
a municipal tile perspective. It'll be over a five year
period beginning next year. And for the Call Drain, it'll
be a 10 year period. Beginning next year as well.
And the last item just identifies any payments in the
months of July. Sorry, June at World for 15, 000
dollars. We've also attached the budget variants reports. It helps
payable listing. For the town. There is no accounts payable
listing for the community centre. As there have not been
any meetings since their last in July. And there's the
procurement report that's been attached. So if the questions from
Council, I'd be happy to answer. Was the procurement report.
We budgeted 370, 000 dollars. There's a tether price of
83. Which on the face of it is create other
than where did we go so offer? What is there
such a large. Discrepancy. Between the budget. And the tender
price. What that would be a big question? I asked
Matt next month. As I don't know the exact specifics,
but the original budget for the project included a certain
number of tasks to be done a certain way. They
sense that when they actually went out to tender and
when I went to look at the bridge to write
the tender, they were like, wait a minute. We could
do it this differently. How old defer. Is that great?
As long as I compare. Because I'll probably forget about
it. The same work, just different way or less. Cost.
Like not that I'm complaining about. I just concerned that.
It's not going to get out the property. That's certainly
only true. Well, Bible mentioned it. Then you get mad.
I said, bring the Details. Next week. I think that's
only. Fair. So. The additional funds that were. Raised out
for the original estimated, what is the plan. I would
go into budget. And if the surplus at the end
of the year. Still ploughing, we have to have something
though. Otherwise now we're going to. Extra, what, 300, 000.
Doll or whatever? We'll see if I can hear how
it seems. Okay. So notice what I was going to
say through you, Mr. Marcus. The amount that's identified here
is just the construction cost. So there is engineering costs
that are associated with from our engineering consultants. So it's
not just that 84, 000 or something. I just, yeah,
I just think we should have some sort of direction.
Though. Because you have been just supposed to do it
with your driver's going on by saying.
By the way, in second legends. You resolve Council receives
the report treasures update for the mission purposes.
Um, it is report. To go. We're going to. Get
there. Okay. I thought we were, I wasn't sure because
I know what Matt here. We were just going to
kind of like reports. Everyone. Speaking of that Director Public
Works. Fields? I feel that we already did the first
one. So this other one left is the update. Any
questions I can answer. Or if the answer for you.
The Bridge 5 rehab. I'm assuming we don't have a
Start date yet. And so I'm assuming it's going to
leak into the school year. And are we who's responsibility?
Is it, is the bridge will be close, I'm assuming
you've trapped it. Boots responsibility. Is it going to be
to retread specifically to Bosco. As we do for any
of them, I'm like, I believe either Matt does or
through the municipal 511 system that notice gets posted in
there in advance so that they can plan here. Who
has access to that. No, who else has access to
that system to see, to be able to lock into
it? Oh, it's publicly helpful. So like all of these
things get posted so that school board see it all
the time. I'm thinking specifically of the Christian school because
I know they use that rage. Okay. And I don't
know if they're all. Honestly don't know if they are
not because they do their bossing privately. Right. They have
their own bus. But I guess what time I know
for a fact they, they brought kids off both sides
that brief. Okay. Okay. We can make sure that they're
special. Make sure that people know, right? Like again, it's
going to be a problem, right? Let me get, it's
going to be like downtown. It's going to be a
problem. But I think one of the issues is that
people know about it at times. And we do our
best to reach everybody. We can, I think, is medication.
I know my wife. No, she's the BP at the
school. So like. Okay. I have to find them. Okay,
around. Shouldn't be a tonsuit. Yeah, let me call it
the art. Back. To the only one I have there.
And I have Matt's been keeping me up to date.
Too. But it's been quite helpful. Move on to.
Fill in the one. Resolve counsell receives all the courts
up days of fourth July, 2026 for information. In favor.
Okay, moving on with a manager of planning. Mr. Mayor,
I just have my, uh, my faulty update report. The
only item I'd like to bring what's tension UP is
that, uh, central vision grand valley where. Council Sauce Desire
to have the OP under R control that we would
make Council of Make Decisions for site specifics and minor
push fundamentals. I followed the procedure that was given to
me by County Staff. And you can see the response
that it's going to go, I really don't know what's
going to go. I guess my report and the Resolution
for this Council will go to County Council, but there's
no staff report, counting staff report, which I found very
strange. So I guess I'm asking to kept the Council
Representatives if you could plug this. I don't know where
it's going. I mean, if I read my hard report
was a lot better in tone that Amorites report, Emirates
Report was very not great. Ours was very different. That
took a different approach. They still consult with them. But
ultimately, if it's urban here, it's urbanaire. Like, I mean,
for those things, it's just, it is a duplication. Um,
for major issues, like amendments to the county official plan,
of course, we would have to send ours to there.
So. I just thought, you know, we're at a stage
now in our development that we should be able to
look after these things. I was just, I was taken
back by the email that I got. I've been pursued.
I just wanted to see that. So there was Deputy
American sort of pitch hit for us. I don't know
if there is an issue. I was going to attempt.
I think I'll just watch it. On the thing. So
yeah, that is the only thing I wanted to bring
to Council's Detention. But if there are any other questions,
um, happy to do this. For Mark.
Just a Colin, I had one on the limb, new
CAO Dr. County, I bet race, the mechanism for developing
charges. The building department not issuing a occupancy permit before
they checked in the bus. And she said, show looking
good. Thank you. And that said, I did. I was
proactive with the one and I sent an email. Cause
I hadn't heard anything. I just, I didn't want to
fall off. And the response I got back, okay. Someone's,
I'm like happy with. Uh, I dared ask because what
we call this, this, this, this, this. I think I
caught Steven. I did copy treasure for both like, wow.
And every, every sentence ended in of Excalation. Exclamations mark.
And I was just asking with the simple question. Just
like, what's the status? Because I thought it would have
been milled by now. And he, and it's like, okay,
I respond. So I was just like, I don't know.
I'm just, I'm just trying to keep the lines of
communication. Oh, but I don't want to miss it. It's
money that we're, we're old. We should have been owed
a lot of time though. So we'll see what happens
with that. So yeah, that was odd. This is odd.
So when Mark says that each sentence standard with an
exclamation mark, he's literally meaning that there was an exclamation
market at the end of each sets, which kind of
just, it was weird. Red really gave. It was like,
I was not necessarily going to just said all I
want is, no, we have an issue with yes because
they're not finished. And that's all it just went through.
Like a whole process. So I don't know what I
did. That's it. Any questions for
work, you've done by games like my long, the South
Council seeds, the report PLN, 2026 - 124 - 1
fleet planning update. Report August 2026 for information.
Congrats. For you. For those, basically two updates. One in
the Dog Count to update you and went on his
monthly update. So I guess both of those at the
same time. And answer any questions. Questions. For Resport. Dogs.
I was just curious because we kind of made the
decision to streamline and simplify the approach of the whole
Dog mount day. Um, but now I guess this report
is saying that it's just not worth it. I guess
just like, how do we go from deciding that we're
going to see it through? Because I guess it was
started, you know, I think it basically beginning this term.
Trying to come up with a solution for, I guess,
just to get it wrapped up, just it's not. What
you mean. Like we've already got, well, what is it
going on? In the Count in town and we send
out the notices in town about maybe a third or
a half registered. And we don't know what the situation
is with the others. Maybe they don't have their dogs
anymore or they're just finely ignoring their feasible to investigate
residents. It would take a lot of effort. To do
it. But this thought is that there would be zero.
Only. So if we got complaint or found that dog,
that it's not like we give them six months or
it would be no, get the dog license or you'll
be fine. Okay. I don't know. I just like to
see a follow through personally. That's kind of what we
decided. To kind of pull this year as was kind
of more tooth baby. But like, sure. It's certainly difficult
to investigate these because they'll tell you that the dog
doesn't live there. Yeah. But he knows now going there,
whatever you guys went around, it was like a deer
rebuild, right? We know there was a dog there that
there was there last time. I mean, there's no, like
that doesn't stand right. Then you know for a five
minutes. And we kind of decided that if that's the
fans they want to take, we just smile. And that's
what it will be. So yes, if we go there
and there's dog there, it's not like my point is
that we're not going to go there. And like you
said, like if the complaint doesn't probably not going to
be a complaint, right? We're going to. I don't know,
I'll let. You talk about it next time. Potentially. Hello.
There we go. Steel with the non compliance. Because like
I was never for this whole Doll Count in the
first place. But we've committed at this stage of the
game. So we're down to the last, what, 117, so
to speak. It doesn't seem fair that everybody else has
registered. It's registered. And then these people haven't and they
get away with it. There's no consequence. So how do
other municipalities? Like I'm not asking for an answer. Now.
But I think. It should be looked at because, yeah.
I don't. We'll miss all these don't do this. They
don't do the dog counts. Or they had, or they
have a large department of people whose job it is
to do dog counts. And as you find right on
the spot kind of thing. Yeah. So. The first place.
So. Certainly, um. We would, if, if the direction is
no, we want these 117 dogs pursued, we would likely
need to bring in our canine control people. And it
will just cost more. Our money end in time. So.
We're certainly going to basically at this point I read
deciding whether to cover losses. And. Just, here's what's been
fine on and not play nights that something comes up.
And also I guess from a liability point of anything
happens. The people that are registered is municipality lives, but
for not ensuring that, I don't know. Yeah. My sensing
doesn't necessarily cover that. I mean. I didn't want to
get into this. But since you brought it up, there
are certain dog species that are not allowed to be
in Ontario. We have been enforced that. And that may
be a chunk of those 117 dogs is that they
know their dog isn't a legal species. On. And are
we going to, that would be. That's a different conversation
that we would be entering. And that's where. We would
be essentially telling people to destroy their dog. That's what
the law states. That dogs have legal can't be here.
And so, um, that's another part of our hesitation. Pursuit
even further unless the problem. If the problem. Enforcement deals
is they. Dogs that have been licensed there now participate
and demonstrating that yes, Hey, the dogs are live here.
They're contributing to the program. They're contributing to potential future
dog related. Birks or doll things. And that is more
where we were headed was to get coverage for the
cost of DELP programs in town. It is on to
me up to you. It's just a recommendation that we
don't pursue for other, but we can if that's the
direction of cancer. Sorry. The other part of the discussion
I recall last was the fact that again now the
people that did comply, they're kind of getting utilised. Like
again, the short end of the state. They paid and
registered. But if they just not, then they get away
with it. Oh, this was the other part of the
discussion that we had. Right. Like this is why we
kind of also agreed to just again, you're correct. The
whole initiative was potentially like a dog park. And we
did invest in three - ish years. Into this. So
it doesn't get through and get it. Done. And how
would we do both of them. Because like if I
had done it and I was sitting here having this
discussion, I'd be like, oh my. Just reading, it's the
reality. Like so how do we handle that? That is
generally an argument than any of them. That'd be who's
the ones that were licensed before. Like when people that
have routinely licensed for the last 25, 30, 40 years
could argue that as well. In which case. My, my
direction wouldn't be to this, it would be. Just maybe
sick and it's not priority, but we still need the.
Action. That's. What I was supposed. To point of that,
Will, the costs will definitely go to anyone. This is
a bracket. He has three pile. He can do. I
will object to that. Okay. As CAO, yeah, no. He.
Doesn't just have three time. So that is the first
objection I've heard. About having three time. Yeah. So I
would still say yes either that then. I mean, or
you give everyone money back. And I'm all just completely.
That would be my stats on it. If I was
like, we're not going to see it through mid and
decision to see it. And now every hurdle, it's just
let's just give up. This has been the problem with
this. I guess it makes no sense. And that's flavour.
I mean, open to you guys this guy. Is again
Counter Ranked to the first? How much cost to give
everybody the money back. I already talk about everybody. And
then we don't. And then that, that would be the
discussion. If we're fully refunding licences and we're not going
to license anymore. Are we also going to do canine
control. And if we are doing canine control, is it
property taxes paying the cost of canine control. I'm very
neutral on this. This is your community. This is your
revenge fell. Are not quiet to do canine control. If
they do, they have the decision was made because this
is something again, this, I feel like it started with
this chart account, so it's the size that it was
going to happen with the emphasis on intensity. I. Know.
But then nothing happened with it. And it kept coming
back up. And I'm coming back up. Then not too
long ago, it would. Let's just do it this way.
We have direction to kind of represent us with how
painstaking is it going to be for him. He said,
no, do it this way. You're kind of here. Just
get it done. And now it's, some people comply. Others
don't. And now we're sitting here saying that they don't
comply. But the wholesale no complaint that there's nothing that's
going to happen. We just get away. With it. We
can't do that. Like we made that decision. So my
or we give direction to continue. I as best you
can and then new term and Council can review this.
And if they want to acknowledge it, they want to
hammer down. They want to pay more look on this
side. I just don't understand how this takes like four
years. And now we're still back to the. Doesn't make
sense. There should have been done. I should have still
been working on it. I always thought this was a
bit of the fools there. But one makes good point.
And I think at least sending another letter to the
people who didn't require the first fun. To out there
at least still on notice. I don't think bad costs
a whole lot of money. Less. Um. But yeah, I'm
going to break red paper. That's commission points.
Trying to put a bit of fear into the pen.
I don't think a hundred dollar five is enough either.
So that's how it's going to happen. Yeah. Just, just
letting it go part of it. It's like, well, kind
of this far. Right. Um. Yeah, I thought I think
we should send the letter for sure. Um, try to
follow up. Where you get. But I know we have
a lot of people keep on to put property standards.
Domingos. Yeah. I've always put a parking, but they're probably
be not as much true. So as there are. But
I mean, that's getting into operations. So yeah, I would
do a letter. No, look, as you were able, if
you happen to be down street doing something else, it
does not, yeah, there any can sort of go together.
We're only not going to go knock on this door
and see if the dog there. You know, at some
point in time, our wheelhouse could just say the dog
here, you have to give license work. And then put
it off a property order to prove that it's not
actually their comic. I don't know the process on that
whether that's a court decision. Okay. So that would be,
can I think it should be that way, right? If
Staff show up at a door and the dog there,
that's not licensed. He is your license. Here's the bill.
That should be process. And then put it on method.
Put it on the power B owner to. Prove that
it's not their dog. Or that they deserve an exception.
Okay. That's where I followed. So I will need direction
on whatever we're doing, whether we're charging or if we're
sending out a bill or if we're going whatever or
doing nothing. That's what we need. To know. What's the
resolution district? So the board.
I have a look. At the canine control by law
enforcement. Frictions. In a long time slightly. I remember what
it says. Sort of billing return debt. Anytime those pieces.
The. B - 26th age. Controlled Dog Count and other
matters were Purples Pro. And the Resolution reads, it resolved
that Council receives the metal cannot control. com, other matters.
And further that Council Direct staff to follow up with
properties that were found to have doll register. And further
that these properties be given 30 days. And further that
following these 30 days, can I control will issue fines
for unregistered line. So. We're now 38 past
that. So I guess so just that kind of renders
what the FBMer is writing that. Will happen, but. It's
already been a resolution. That's why I said like, cause
Brad had this whole thing about having to travel and
all that stuff. And we said, no, this is what
we're doing. It was a shorter scope. For now. We've
gone past that. Yeah. So thank you. Connor. So what
is, so what is the direction? How issue is fine.
That's what's already said that he should be issuing fun.
Yeah. Sorry, this is where I'm coming from. It's like,
I remember the last meeting we kind of already did
this. So to come here now, the Reedo is not
worth it. Like we already had this injection. If you
need context for any type of research, you're writing that
resolution was 2026. 0531. And it was from the May.
Here. Let me get back to that. 2026, 05, 31.
What's from the May 26. Meeting.
Followed the word. So I guess I got to ask
that that was already the previous direction from May. I
guess, how was it. I guess why are we here.
Because then this is like this kind of, I think
there was another quest for an update. But then the
update shouldn't have been this, the update should have been,
I find all of. The, I'm not sure that the
previous reports outlined the cost of that. So we wanted
to bring those, what the fact that the costs will
far exceed any fine or permit revenue. Just because this
is Brad's, this isn't going through the, whatever the graduate
is going to take matter of how time, assuming is
it to verify for Resident Evil. How far each roughly.
And then they cited our museum. And I'm just saying
there. I think, yeah, we made the decision already is
my point. And now here we are arguing, like it's
kind of like this, this is just breeze past previous
motion. This is like what I'm going to try now
to understand. Tried to just make and Council fully aware.
Of. The applications of that motion. Okay. Let's draft implications
with the word I was trying to find. Okay everybody's
all right. Um, move by Lauren's like my file. You
saw the Council receives the report doctrine update for information
purpose. And further that the 2026 - 0530 - 31
from Maine 2026 meeting the employment. Any questions on there.
What is Just try to answer. Do you know if
he's issued a client on the property with the paper.
I won't discuss specific cases and helping Council sessions. So
you could ask me after. Discussing. If I fill second
by James, Peter's all the Council receives through four by
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am or not. Um. I. Would mention it to CAO.
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on the Tuesday, August 11, 2026 Council Agenda. Favourite.
Can we counsel report. County Council as meeting on Turs.
Talk about. Minister Denification?
That news? I couldn't have that. That's number two. Oh,
okay. What was Ken? Take one. No, he can't. Cancelling.
Okay. Yes.
Council updates. Anybody put up to something or his summer's
taken over. He's pretty quiet. We did meet with the
OTP, which I touched on previously. Um, it's just the
chairs of the Respective Wards. That was July. Um, letter
record has met once briefly just to talk with the
stuff. Just to get, make sure things are going. As
his. Just what is happening. About.
Anybody with some new business? So there's that type of
federation. There. Producers having the barbecue tonight. I think everybody
got invited by the two. It's a name, right. Might
be worth going to. Have a nice new fire. Have
I ever seen a house. Hit miss. I had a
very, very. Nice move actually. It's not creep with our
new CAO at the county. He said. She's got a
lot of ideas, which is good. I told her some
of it. We're probably going to get her fired. And
she said, I'm okay with that. So I said, well,
then I think we're going to get a long justified.
So. Uh, yeah. So I think we'll see how that
goes, but I think. There's certainly a new energy there
anyways. But she's free to table. And I think that
was the hope. Yeah, she. Has.
Apparently they weren't going to be on what changed it
mentioned. A new business Decider would have new business. Why
don't we do closed session. Could we do a new
business app? Cause there might be something that comes out
of closed session. That might be under new business. We'll
see. Or you could include that promotion, the rising report
motion. Well, we might, we'll talk about in a closed
session, but it might be a discussion that has to
be an open session. That's what I'm asking. So if
we can hold on to new business. Okay, fine, still
around, I also have to leave. To make now. I'll
stick around. For people. I need. Help. Don't notice the
motion. You've got one. I lost. By. Love. Essentially, not,
it needs to be deferred. So I don't think we
would be, I don't think we need to pass a
resolution. We'll just put deferred. Yeah. I've just been going
to set this. So. I have to let Paul Malmore
come into Close session. So you can sneak in a.
Commit that we passed the motion first and we can
shut the meeting. Okay. By Lauren Secobait chase.
Counting Resolve itself into a meaning that is closed public
at 141. Also all the text PM. Municipal 2021 under
the provisional section 239 to a bracket. As follows personal
matters, uh, unidentifiable and controlling muciful or local. C is
a proposed of pending announces when, but Valley was on
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be applied to any negotiations carried on or to be
carried on, but I mean, I have the municipali. All
the. Two.
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record in open session.
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Closed Council meeting be approved as circulated. Confiber again.
We resolve the Council receives confidential report sale of town
grab fit in Southgate. Pool of sale. I've heard of
that Council approves the sales of the property located at
046384. Surfgate road - 04 Southgate, Ontario to be an
email cate farms. For the amount of 825, 000. And
authorized the CAO to work with the Councilici to conclude
the sale. Equals to the favor.
By. James. Single. - iPhone. You resolve the Council receives
the confidential report fireboard and directs the CAO to proceed
as discussed in closed session. And arrange deletion by the
mayor of the town. Got the township of the towns
of their brand regarding the fireboard. Questions on finger.
My fill. It resolved the Council of received Confidential Verbal
Update regarding medical centre lease, mix CAO to proceed as
disgusting close sessions.
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the Staffing Update and Dreo to proceed as discussed in
Gluci.
Gonna circle back to new business. Okay. You wish this,
the last. And I
get, so. Talk. A lot about. Where funding comes. Corree,
but certain one of those things. And I don't know
if this is feeds or not. What I would say
was just throwing in a preserve. My suggestion would be
to take half the money and create an endowment. Part.
Charles, the anomaly fund is that you never have access
to whatever capital you put in. But you have in
perpetuity, you have interest. And so it's not a whole
lot, but it's something that wouldn't just be property taxes.
Whether we set up our own, I don't even know
if we're allowed to. I'm assuming we could. Hand it
to the Duffy Community Country. I'm assuming we could do
that. But that managed for us. Or we have to
set up our own. But I. Just, I've been taking
a lot. About how we talk about where do we
get our money from. We only have property taxes. So
at least we have an opportunity here to at least
start something different. It wouldn't be a whole hell of
a lot of year, but we have other properties that
are surplus. We're probably going to sound. Next turn, then
maybe the next term council would add to it. And
if you can build up an invalidment pun, you can
eventually have a source of continual. I'm going to call
it a, well, revenue is the right word. That separate
property taxes. And that's what we, because for the four
seedful future, that's all we found. Right? We've got property
tax, and it's mostly resentful. And I think we need
to try something different. And that's one way of doing
differently. Grab it. Okay, so we put in a reserve,
and we don't make anything you'd be, we're going to
use the reserves. And then they're all. So that was
my gospel. It's a different federal. That's a community foundation.
And I don't know how to know what we've heard.
It lasted money with them. Bascular Museum of Dufford did,
and we're not that much different than the museum with
Doughton. First Rex took out the profit. Any comments. I'm
going to be an idea. Yeah, I will. Those two
James and Lauren. First. Give the floor ball. Okay, thank
you, Richard. Um, through you, if nothing else, LES would
have, is it one financial or whatever their group is
for investments? But I, depending on what Staff say, as
far as the limited, like it's got to be low
risk, uh, zero risk or whatever, something like that. If
I remember. From some of their discussions at conferences, so
that'd be another option if we wanted to invest. Did
you have, I'm just curious right now, have you had
any of what would this interest be used for, which
I'm like for community grants. Or are we talking for
interest to outside walks? Or what are we interested. I
think B up for, I'm throwing it to General Revenue,
right? Is what I would be. Right. Like I'm, I'm,
I'm searching for different Revenue streets. That's on search for.
Okay. That's the idea behind. Right? The flip side is
you don't have access to the principle. Right. So like
a cemetery reserve, we can't touch. It. What have you
and one financial, I guess in way you want to
make sure you don't. But. Um, just from staff, what
is we have to take some money out of the
funding to cover the lot we purchased at the West
Pa No east. Back alley? I had, I had that
number. I don't. 225 would pay for it, I think.
Oh, that's right. Okay. I think it's 225, we paid.
So we need to take that count back to that.
That's 225. And then, uh, yeah, the rest weekend decided.
Do you want. So he decided his meeting. Sorry, Paul.
Has to be decided this meeting? No, and I'll tell
you why, because you're not spending it. We're also on
technically getting in until what was their completion date. So
yeah, we'll get the money some 10 night or something
like that. Yeah. Like a week or two after clothes
and stuff. Like the next term of council too. So
we've been all the time to figure out it. Do
you want to report back on usability of this announcement.
Idea. Well, if nobody likes there, I figured I'd ask
if not, he likes the ID. I don't have to
do it anymore. It's kind of handy. Yes. Exactly. I
like it. I can get ideas that I have to
do more work, which I can do. Okay. I don't
mind doing. Okay. I personally all in favor of investing.
I mean, we've done it now in Fireboard, the BIA.
If that made it, definitely, no risk is good. I
don't really like the idea of not having access to
the principal only because of how, seeing how things can
arise and how this TARD has struggled to maybe expect
as a call. It's nice to just kind of have
a little bit of a leg out. Um, sorry. Anyway,
that's international that's it. Like I could keep going for
those type of head. I mean, we know we're going
to have their projects coming up. We know we're going
to get hit with some surprises and who the heck
knows who's going to go on, which means community centred
by a car, whatever. Um, I don't want to just
extend it because we have it, but I think it's,
I'd like to still have access to it. You know.
I agree with Deputy Maris. Suggestion. I don't know if
that's the right direction. In terms of, or the right
tool. But in general, I don't want to have access
to it because that's where we are right now. Because
we have access to a larger reserve. So we dig
into it. And screwing shots. That's the problem. Because we
say, Oh, we can just take it on a reserve.
See, bakers, those bad players, which we don't do. Doesn't
don't have enough money. So then we're right back. To
square one. That's a problem. Like I understand what you're
saying. But having that easy access is part of the
situation. Part of the problem that's got us here at
first because we have had access to the funds. But
I think also how we ended last year in that
emergency meeting had to do because we had no money
and all these other things. And now the other thing
that was a cash flow. Yeah. And BK, we also
have no reserves. You know what I mean? And like
now we could potentially have something that mortal run. Comes
from. I could be smart enough. Well, then we have
to start painting our reserves back. Which is separate from
that. See the problem with land is they're not making
any more of it. And so without the properties. Offload
them with the money in. But my biggest thing is,
is the return of these places. It's like. One percent
is not a return. That just covers the bank charges
and administration fees. That's my only. But you know that.
S what money we don't have now. We don't have.
So all we had was a lot of there. So
now we'll have 600, 000 dollars. Just take the interest
off of that as a Regustream. Excuse Paul. Thank
you, Urshi. I would lean. So either we can get
a report, but I would lean that sale of land
goes towards purchase of another piece. We're going to have
purchases in the future here as we grow. Um, that
down payment should pay for something that we're going to
need. Um, but I'm fine. Like I would move a
motion that we get direction on the feasibility of an
endowment or investing into, uh, one with LAS, one financial
or whatever it's called. But that would be as far
as I want to go at the moment. Just to
get a report pack. I also concur with buying another
property that we're going to have. To get in place.
Everyone can't jeopardize locking out half to put that money
as. And then now having access to it. Then you
can't use it device as properly. No, I said where
I'm coming from. Like why locking up if we're going
to spend it. Set up the doll in for a
certain time too. Why don't that go down to do
it. Oh, I want to do stuff. Staff looking. Can
I offer one more option? No for us to consider.
Can we pay back some of the internal bar money
that we have already. So the issue that we have
is that we know that we have internal borrowing. We
don't have necessarily a plan to repair. For the existing.
I'm not talking about the DC that we're going to
be borrowing with competition. I'm talking about the other ones.
This before long way to closing that gap. I mean,
I just thought I'd put it up there. Also, I
have to, so you have like money. So, so just
I think I kind of tried to touch on it
a while ago when I asked for a report on
where we were in December to June, but I think
we need, if we're going to do that, we need
to report on what, cause that's funding that we spent
without any tracking or control. Right. If that's going to
go back to repaid, not DCs, like it's not just
an internal cash flow thing. I think we need to
figure out what did we spend that we didn't have
money for. And if it, if it, if we need
half a million dollars of suns, repay stuff that we've
purchased or expended without knowing what the funding source was,
I think that's a, that's a very concerning, predicament we
find ourselves in. So thank you, Mr. Man, that was,
I think there were parts that I've already provided to
date. There was a horse of investigations that I had
done. I mean, for instance, purchasing that peaceful end that
we're talking about repaying that is a perfect example of
something that we had to take money out, but we
didn't have the money in our budget. Um, there were
other instances where for cash flow purposes, um, the money
was moved from reserves into our operated back end. And
it just, I think it was a regular practice before.
In some cases, it did get repaid. But based on
the analysis, I still had more to pay back. It
would be more directly related to property tabs. So rears
that we had to casually flow it from reserves. Versus
purchases life gated block. That was not budgeted for, I
can't think of any other purchases that we did that
were going on funded by the budget. So any direction
to Staff at this point is it's just a more
consideration. I like the idea. I'd make a motion that
we have a staff report back on the feasibility of
an endowment investing with, uh, LAS or what Steven just
asked for. Those three options. I think we need to
give it some consideration. So I think we need some
information to make that decision. Just information everything.
You'd have to find a second here, but that'd be
what I'd do. Sorry. I was thinking about.
Yeah. Just more, I mean, this will come back quick.
Yeah. Theft community foundation, they guarantee a five percent return.
They have to discredit five percent of their funds that
are invested every year. They've been making, while over five
percent a year, they take, they take two percent.
And then they do invest either AD. If they make
more, if the option of giving up five percent or
reinvesting it like increasing the size of these element, you
can have any sort of trouble if you need it.
And you can have up to 50 percent of the
fact. If you're in a crisis situation. The court has
to prove that. The other 50 percent is that block
in. That is the downside of having an outlet. The
upside of it is you have money. To be. Most
of us can sort of allow five since years of
extremely well though. You know, the world around excuses. They've
had a lot of really good. They have one really
bad year. Bay five years in midtines. In the past
few years. So is there a, we have a Paul
moved devotion that Staff Report back on the endowment planned
idea, the one investment program. And the Call and Reserve
payback. Jamie's second did it. I'm assuming this will come
look at recommendation. I already know what Stevens. I mean,
we can all recite him now every time we know
where that's fun. It's just in a different pocket. Let's
put it to the wraith pocket. That's me. Is that
all for conventions to make? Yep. Okay. Give me a
link so I can make down so we don't have
to get it in the Stafford on us resolution. Go
ahead. I'll catch up on this action. But you know,
if there's. My felon
second, my Lauren, he was ultimately given to introduce a
biological. Confirm the proceedings. Of the regular Council Meeting on
LDON Tuesday, August 11, 2026. And it'd be given the
necessary readings and asked a number as Bylaw 2026 -
48 on favourite.
Okay. You already did. You already told us the list.
So I'm just writing the camera. Okay. Move by James.
Sign of my poll. He resolved that we now do
adjourn this regular Council meeting at. 323. P. m. To
me again for a regular Council meeting on September the
8, 2026 6 p. m. or it's called in there.
Favor. Seeking for the 6 p. m. September's back to
two meetings. What.