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[13:25] She moved by Phil one second by Lauren. We have
[13:28] resolved that we get Kim Yellun president and CAO headwaters
[13:33] health care centred to address Council. Look Favor. Welcome to
[13:41] the Medium, Kim. Forward to your presentation. How are you?
[13:44] I'm good. Thank you, Mayor Solomon, and good morning Council.
[13:48] Thank you very much for having me this morning. I
[13:50] hope everyone's having a good summer so far. Uh, I'm
[13:54] going to share my screen. I believe you have the
[13:56] slides in your package, but I'll go ahead and share
[13:58] it so that I can advance them. Uh, and let
[14:02] me just do this so you guys can see them.
[14:04] So this morning, I just wanted to provide a short
[14:07] highlight of some key accomplishments that were in the past
[14:12] fiscal year, the current year. Uh, at Headwaters to Sheriff,
[14:19] a few interesting items. So that's just our strategic plan,
[14:23] which of course, everything we do is align to, but
[14:25] I just wanted to recap and share some numbers from
[14:28] our last fiscal year. So that was the year ending
[14:30] March 31, 2026. So you can see our ED visits
[14:34] were over 34, 000, close to 35. Our day surgeries,
[14:38] or about 5, 500. You can see our dialysis visits.
[14:42] We had over 22, 000 outpatient visits, uh, switching to
[14:46] the right there. We completed over 424, 000 lab tests
[14:51] are diagnostic imaging numbers went up because of our MRI.
[14:55] So we're over 74, 000 now for the year. And
[14:58] then of course you can see our number of staff,
[15:00] um, is usually studying around 850 and positions we have
[15:04] close to 200. So some really remarkable stats over the
[15:09] last fiscal year. I'm also pleased to share that the
[15:12] hospital, uh, ended in a very strong financial position. We
[15:16] actually ended with, um, our surplus of 1. 6 million
[15:21] dollars. And that is, you know, mostly due to, funding
[15:25] that we received very late in the fiscal year, but
[15:28] it's also due to some excellent, uh, diligence by all
[15:32] of our teams at headwaters. We've really been keeping a
[15:34] cosign on our expenses, our supply costs, looking for savings
[15:38] opportunities wherever we can. So being very, very diligent. So
[15:42] strong financial year run for the hospital, which is great.
[15:47] Uh, of course, um, I'm going to highlight some of
[15:49] our proudest accomplishments. I think the, you know, the biggest
[15:52] one and the one that certainly provides huge positive benefit
[15:55] to the communities that we served was the launch for
[15:58] new MRI, which happened, uh, in the fall. And so,
[16:03] you know, once it's up to full capacity and we're
[16:05] getting there, we'll be doing up to 8, 000 scans
[16:09] per year. Uh, and you can see the types of
[16:11] scans we're doing there on the right, uh, and so
[16:14] we are making our way up to that number, but
[16:16] it has already made a huge impact on our communities,
[16:19] which is very positive. Uh, another huge positive accomplishment that
[16:25] I want to highlight is the big focus at the
[16:28] hospital in terms of our emissions, our green footprint and
[16:32] reducing all of that, becoming more efficient. I'm really happy
[16:35] to say that, and that's just one of the checks
[16:37] we receive from Enbridge last year, but we actually received
[16:40] the highest rebate, uh, in the province last year. So
[16:43] we've been upgrading all of our boilers, all of our
[16:47] heating and cooling systems, all of that. So, uh, again,
[16:50] becoming more efficient, uh, and certainly always looking at, uh,
[16:54] how we can reduce any negative impacts to the environment.
[16:58] Uh, and so in total, we received close to 278,
[17:02] 000 dollars in rebates again, which is excellent and huge
[17:06] shout out to our facilities teams and all the stuff
[17:08] behind the walls. Uh, some other accomplishments are just going
[17:13] to highlight. So there are many, uh, certainly we're very
[17:16] proud of just looking at the photos, uh, we're very
[17:19] proud of our partnership with the Duffer and OPP in
[17:23] regards to our M13 team. So that's, um, our nurses
[17:27] at Ride along with police officers to those that are
[17:30] suffering any type of mental health or addictions crisis trying
[17:33] to avoid an emission to hospital and treating them, again,
[17:36] the sports state even in the community. Of course our
[17:39] paramedics as well that were so pleased are part of
[17:42] the hospital team here. They underwent an accreditation. Um, which
[17:48] is excellent. We also really pleased to be continuing to
[17:51] partner with the Toronto metropolitan university School of Medicine bringing
[17:56] in students, our community paramedicine program, relocated, uh, and we
[18:02] continue to look at benchmarking, looking for savings across a
[18:06] hospital. And it's been two years now, which has equated
[18:09] to five million dollars in savings achieved across the hospital.
[18:13] Uh, these are just, uh, I wanted to highlight some
[18:15] of our annual reward recipients. We like to highlight members
[18:18] in the community. And of course, those inside the hospitals.
[18:21] So those are just some great snapshots from our annual
[18:23] awards ceremony, which just happened in June. Uh, and that's
[18:27] just a summary of all of our recipients and the
[18:29] words we give out. Uh, I would be remiss if
[18:32] I didn't also do a big shout out to our
[18:35] foundation who completed their biggest campaign yet in Headwater's history.
[18:40] They successfully raised over 18 million dollars to support us
[18:44] and being able to bring the MRI to headwaters and
[18:47] also support many other pieces of equipment, uh, and the
[18:50] technology and software that is needed, uh, behind the scenes
[18:53] to support all of them. So very grateful to the
[18:56] community members who do donate to the hospital. Looking ahead
[19:00] to this fiscal year, uh, we are continuing to focus
[19:03] on our work, our emergency department has been given the
[19:06] approval to undergo and expansion, uh, and full renovation. So
[19:11] that is underway, which is very exciting. We hope to
[19:13] have shovels in the ground next year. Uh, we continue
[19:16] to look at reducing our wait times as always and
[19:19] looking at how we can enhance or expand, uh, current
[19:22] services and programs in the hospital, uh, we are making
[19:26] some investments in some high pressure area such as our
[19:28] surgical services, emergency department, as I mentioned, are obstetrical department
[19:34] as rapidly growing. Uh, we had over a thousand deliveries
[19:38] over the last couple of years. We're breaking records with
[19:40] over a hundred bursts per month. So it's an area
[19:44] that's really growing. And then of course we're focused on
[19:46] geriatric services or ambulatory care clinics and respiratory services in
[19:51] the hospital. We continue to look at, uh, digital innovations
[19:55] using artificial intelligence in the hospital to support our clinicians.
[19:59] Uh, and of course a decision making and communication. Uh,
[20:03] and I think the last place I just want to
[20:05] focus on is, you know, partnerships are really important to
[20:08] us at headwaters. We're always looking at expanding partnerships, looking
[20:12] at how partnerships can better support access to care for
[20:15] those patients who walk through our door to ensure a
[20:19] smooth, uh, continuum of care. So just in summary, I
[20:24] think kind of the key takeaways I wanted to share
[20:26] is just that, you know, at the hospital, uh, given
[20:30] financial pressures across the system, we're always very fiscally responsible.
[20:35] We continue to do benchmarking at data. We're monitoring our
[20:38] costs, uh, definitely we want to ensure long - term
[20:42] sustainability, uh, but never, never compromising quality and safety inside
[20:47] the hospital, uh, we're looking at always improving our infrastructure
[20:51] and access to care. I talked about emergency department expansion
[20:54] and the other programs that were investing in. Of course,
[20:57] we want to, you know, continue to offer as many
[20:59] services as possible as we can at headwaters. And then
[21:03] lastly, and probably most importantly, we're always focused on supporting
[21:06] our staff, our positions, volunteers and learners having a just
[21:11] culture, uh, living our values of kindness accountability respect and
[21:15] teamwork is a top priority to us here at headwaters.
[21:19] And then just the last few slides again, we're just
[21:21] some highlights from the year, some of the awards we
[21:23] receive new programs and services we launched. Our teddy bear
[21:27] clinic is the photo on the left. There are annual
[21:29] teddy bear clinic is coming up, uh, in September. So
[21:32] stay tuned to hear more about that, which were pleased
[21:35] with, uh, and again, just some other photos with our
[21:38] partners. And of course last but not least, I hope
[21:41] everyone knows how to get in touch with us. If
[21:44] you ever need anything or want to give any feedback,
[21:46] uh, or want to support the hospital in any way
[21:49] possible. And I'm more than happy to answer any questions
[21:52] from Council or from yourself mayor solvent Kim. As usual,
[21:59] well done. And it's always, uh, something going on at
[22:03] the hospital and how is something very positive in a
[22:06] place that sometimes isn't helpful or positive stuff. But keep
[22:11] this going in. Question some council comments. For you. Yeah,
[22:17] I've got a couple, I guess nobody else wants to
[22:20] start. So yeah, I will echo. And I'll start with
[22:23] the exercise. I can't remember if you've had one in
[22:26] the last few years. If you could comment on that.
[22:29] And then it's, it's there any danger of you being
[22:32] a victim of your success and getting less funding because
[22:34] you had a surplus. Yeah. Excellent question. So I'll answer
[22:40] the first one first. The last two years we've had
[22:45] a surplus. The prior year was, it was a bit
[22:47] smaller. The year before that we had a small deficit
[22:50] and the one year small deficit, it was a timing
[22:52] issue with receiving the funding in the next fiscal year,
[22:55] which then caused a surplus in two years ago. So
[22:59] typically though, we're very strong financially. So we're landing pretty
[23:03] close to being balanced with either usually a small surplus.
[23:07] So strong position there. Uh, but to answer your second
[23:11] question, it is something we discuss, uh, at our board
[23:14] meetings on a regular basis, uh, in regards to, are
[23:17] we hindering ourselves with our strong financial results and being
[23:20] very diligent with how we monitor our expenses? Um, it,
[23:26] it hasn't hindered headwaters to date. I think if anything
[23:30] it is shows the ministry and Ontario health are a
[23:34] funder and who are accountable to that, uh, we are
[23:36] very fiscally prudent and do have a high level monitoring
[23:39] here. So I don't think it's hindered us. I hope
[23:41] it doesn't ever, um, because yeah, we are very physically
[23:45] responsible here at headwaters. Yeah. If it does, I think
[23:49] our system is even more fast works than it is,
[23:53] right? Like I think the organisations that are doing well,
[23:56] she can be rewarded, not punished. Yes. Above my paper.
[24:01] The amorag machine, I'm assuming what's hindering to be more
[24:07] scans is, um, clinicians or technicians or whatever. And that's
[24:11] funding. Or is there something else. Uh, no. So great
[24:17] question. So we are currently funded to operate at 16
[24:20] hours a day. Monday to Friday. That's the provincial funding
[24:25] we receive. Uh, we made the decision with input from
[24:28] our patient and family advisors to actually stagger that. So
[24:31] we operate at seven days a week, uh, as we
[24:34] want to ensure that there was accessibility and warnings, evenings.
[24:38] Of course during the day. So we've, um, shared those
[24:41] hours across seven days. Uh, were funded for the 16
[24:45] hours, which enable us to do 8, 000 scans per
[24:47] year. We're not there yet. Only because we're still in
[24:49] the ramp up phase. So there's no hindrance at this
[24:52] point. I think there will come a time where we
[24:55] will be fully blocked using the 16 hours a day.
[24:59] And then it will become a funding gap. And then
[25:01] we will need the extra funding to be able to
[25:03] operate at 24 seven, but we're not there yet with
[25:05] demand. Yeah, I'd say hours a week is that right?
[25:11] I'm trying to do math in my head. 16 times
[25:14] five would be 30. So 80 hours a week we're
[25:17] kind of short. Brain is halfway working. Um, and are
[25:21] those scans in our catchment air, in your catchment area?
[25:26] Or are you bringing in people from outside. Great question.
[25:30] Great question. So both. So, uh, of course our priority
[25:35] is to serve our catchment areas. And the communities that
[25:38] we serve, uh, however, referrals do come from outside. So
[25:41] I know we received referrals from new market, uh, from
[25:45] south of us. The word gets out. Um, and, you
[25:49] know, positions know that our wait terms are much shorter
[25:51] here because we're a brand new MRI. So we are
[25:53] serving from all over. That was curiosity more than anything
[25:59] else. I mean, I. Yeah. No, no. There's been some
[26:02] folks I think that I've travelled from afar to come
[26:04] to headwaters is what I've heard, to be honest, to
[26:05] get it much sooner. Right. It's here. I mean, last
[26:10] but not this, this is unfair. Um, I'm going to
[26:15] ask anyways. And then I wear the ask if maybe
[26:18] next year it becomes part of your presentation. Are you
[26:20] able to provide context in terms of last year? So
[26:26] ER visits. You said first or from your presentation, I
[26:31] got, it's either babies or old people. It's using the
[26:34] hospital. Uh, but are you able to ride context? Is
[26:37] that increasing decreasing or less statement. State. In terms of
[26:42] the ED visits or the numbers overall, like you're, I
[26:46] always ask for all of it. So, uh, you know
[26:52] what Paul is on with me. She's our comm specialist.
[26:56] Great suggestion. We will include some year over year next
[26:59] time I come. I think that's actually great to show
[27:01] the trending cause it is an excellent question. So ED
[27:04] visits have actually been consistent over the last couple of
[27:07] years. I can tell you that we've hovered around the
[27:09] 35, 000 last few years pre COVID in terms of
[27:13] UD visits. We were up to 41, 000. So when
[27:16] I first got to headwaters, it was quite high. And
[27:19] then a Purse COVID, everyone saw a decrease. Uh, in
[27:24] terms of some of the other areas, we've seen growth
[27:27] probably in all the other areas. We've seen growth, to
[27:29] be honest. So births for sure when I got to
[27:33] headwaters a number of years ago, we were around seven,
[27:35] 800 a year. We're 1100 last year. You saw the
[27:39] numbers there. And that's increasing. Same with our number of
[27:42] lab tests. DI scans, obviously with the MRI, uh, chemo
[27:47] we've expanded dialysis. We've expanded our number of chairs. So
[27:50] we're, we're growing in all the other areas. Great. Thanks.
[27:59] The one question I have, and I've asked it before,
[28:02] but I wouldn't mind a refresher. You mentioned all the
[28:07] increasing number of tests that you have to be done.
[28:10] The number increasing of, I guess, bursts hopping in the
[28:14] area. Um, there's just an increase use of the facility
[28:19] as a whole. And then I look at the headwaters
[28:26] health care centre website. And I take a look at
[28:29] joining our teams here in at the headwaters. And I
[28:34] can't help but notice that I'd say 75 to 85
[28:39] percent. Of all the positions that you're trying to fill
[28:43] are either temporary, casual, or part - time. Would it
[28:47] not be easier to catch and retain staff at full
[28:50] - time status. Yes. Excellent question. Very good observation. Uh,
[28:57] yes, it is always easier to hire full - time
[29:01] permanent into full - time permanent rolls. Um, and we
[29:05] have, so it is a strategy that, we call it
[29:08] now our people on culture team looks at continually with
[29:10] our managers. Can we convert two part - time lines?
[29:14] Uh, so most of the positions are unionized. So there,
[29:18] we have to follow the collective agreement and the rules
[29:20] within that. Uh, and how many lines which equates to
[29:24] FTE is very complicated, but we always look at, can
[29:26] we convert two part - time into a full -
[29:28] time? Cause it's always easier to recruit into a full
[29:31] - time permanent. You're absolutely right. So we have done
[29:34] a number of those, um, kind of amalgamations of roll,
[29:38] uh, that challenge that we do have and the roles
[29:40] that you see posted are commonly their maternity leaves or
[29:47] medical leaves or educationa leaves and are constantly to always
[29:53] have some level of casual staff that can just fill
[29:56] in for vacations. Or some of the leaves. So it
[30:01] is, um, a bit of our reality, but you're absolutely
[30:05] right and that we do look at whenever possible to
[30:08] create full - time permanent roles because they are much
[30:11] easier to hire into. We do all hospital struggle hiring.
[30:16] Anything that's part - time or not permanent these days.
[30:24] Lord for any comments, we can do this. I don't
[30:27] think holes on the line. Come on with just a
[30:32] comment if you want to take a look at me.
[30:35] You'll know that I'm probably a guy that's going to
[30:37] use the hospital quite election. Anyway, so I did go
[30:46] over there and I, well, I'm a big, you know,
[30:50] now advocate for how darn nice everybody is over there
[30:53] and how good everybody does their job. And it's proud
[31:00] of the work you all do your staff yourself. And
[31:03] everybody that has anything to do with that food's not
[31:06] even about it. You know, that's it. I'm not recommending
[31:10] a long state, but it's, it's very nice. And I
[31:13] was really, very impressed. That, you know, what my experience
[31:20] was like. And I just like to think, do your
[31:23] team and we have a great hospital. That's a very
[31:28] short trip from here. And all that all put together.
[31:32] It seems to be like a very good outfit. Nothing
[31:36] to complain about from me. So I'd like to thank
[31:39] you, too. And thank you for delegating to us and
[31:42] tell us what's going on in Netflix. Thank you very
[31:45] much, Mayor Solomon and Council. And please know we are
[31:47] here always and, uh, appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you.
[31:51] Thank you. Have a great day. Enjoy the rest of
[31:53] your summers. By Philly. Second by James. Here's all the
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[32:43] counts on favourite. General. Mears only
[32:54] explain our greatness. We are very excited. To actually come
[33:03] here. Um, and then.
[33:20] Our street. So, uh, the filming of this intelligence
[33:30] here is that we're looking to do is become nine
[33:34] days total between September the 11th Friday. Tuesday, November 22.
[33:41] One of the days we fall on a. Sunday senate.
[33:44] Oh yeah. They're really neck. We're only going to be
[33:47] Monday to Friday. For me. And we're looking to do
[33:50] the first day that we're telling would be a later
[33:52] call our. Day starting at around one o'clock in the
[33:55] afternoon. These timelines are just a guide for now. And
[33:59] they shipped slightly here and there, not by much. They
[34:02] generally pushed it down or 2. 30 direction. As we
[34:05] filled for our win times. Um. I said we wish
[34:11] to do closures on mainstream. Right. Um.
[34:23] On the board, you can see basically the plant that
[34:27] we've set up for, the highlighted buildings of glue are
[34:32] considered name sites for us for filming. The one that's
[34:37] kind of the U - shaped that is actually a
[34:39] set that's in Bhashua. Our overall plan for the show.
[34:44] In the tower. Tentative. Somewhere else
[34:54] that we're going to be on as well. But the
[34:57] majority of the kind of in the main section, we
[35:00] do have two interior days that we're still letting them.
[35:03] We're looking to film the OG Dyer downtown. So two
[35:07] of those days we'll foster the interior of the out
[35:09] of the night. So seven days out. About on the
[35:13] streets. As well as upon side street. We're going to
[35:19] turn the air gas building into a gas station. Cycles.
[35:22] In the background. We're filming purposes there around the corner
[35:26] at the green store. We did discussions them to actually
[35:31] put them into a lot of body shop, canning shop.
[35:35] And all iconics were filming around the corner. I need
[35:39] a lot of body shop where turning that into the
[35:41] great starts like government weren't
[35:47] really. Um, we've got traffic management plans that we can
[35:54] hand out as well that we put out. We're looking
[35:57] to deep to our big trucks around. So they're not
[36:00] going through the main town during all the filming theories.
[36:03] Uh, that'll be the traffic management plants. So everything will
[36:06] be done by 07 over CD by police. And vitamin.
[36:13] Uh, track staff. We will have, uh, our own security
[36:19] in the town. Nothing weird not that you have. I'm
[36:23] scared. But we call them LS piece. And they'll be
[36:25] wearing time with vests. One of the best are easily
[36:28] market. You can see who they are. And they'll be
[36:31] there to help with moving flow of people along and
[36:36] just the general keeping. If we have any on records
[36:39] that want to come down, we'll keep married out to
[36:42] move them get out. Uh, as we want to keep
[36:46] all the businesses open during all of our filming and
[36:50] our app. There are times we'll move you to hold
[36:52] up people for certain filming activities. Um, we're doing some
[36:57] drone shift. Down the main stretch. And we do have
[37:01] one rate scene with our main actor going down the
[37:03] hill into town as he walks into tell. One of
[37:07] the proposals that we do want to do on the
[37:10] main strip is to paint lines. The parking lines turned
[37:15] them by understanding how this in the past turn them
[37:17] back to the angle parking on both sides of the
[37:21] street for that. And we would be using the city
[37:24] approved contractor to do work for that or to free
[37:28] network apartment force and then restore it back to the
[37:30] way they want to finish as well. Another aspect that
[37:36] we're. Looking to do. There's diagram of. The parking that
[37:41] we do. When it is angled and done with the
[37:43] centre line, it will accommodate still north and south traffic.
[37:48] Going past it. And. We do want to affect some
[37:55] of the street lights in the main section. The. Black,
[38:01] three lights on there. We want to put an LED
[38:03] light in it. And box it with a diffusion. And
[38:06] that will turn that like to help create a better
[38:09] glow for us. And what currently comes off a bit.
[38:12] Um, we'll do the work with the authorized contractors for
[38:17] electrical work that do this. We also wish to install
[38:21] a one end down by the diner at the intersection
[38:24] there. We want to install a four way flashing red
[38:27] light. To give it as a small town feel for
[38:30] that. We're going to use outside electrical contractors. We're looking
[38:33] at platinum to hang that light for us. And that
[38:37] would be done just prior to our filming. And then
[38:39] as soon as we are done filming, uh. In our
[38:43] restoration. We're making our loud
[38:53] people might want people might not like that now because
[38:58] they finally. Yeah. And that's, that's a proposal. We are
[39:03] talking to the businesses. I know there's been a bit
[39:05] of some miscommunication that went around to that. And we're
[39:09] sorting that out now to be on board with everybody
[39:12] to let them know that yes, we're going to be
[39:15] talking to all the individual businesses and Adam Unies here
[39:18] today. Sorry. He doesn't have much to say. I just
[39:20] brought in. He's going to be my face for grand
[39:22] valley. That's going to be down here working with Decent
[39:25] and Jake Organ, right? And he's going to be basically
[39:29] his whole purpose in life is to become a lesson
[39:32] for your grandma. Yes. Tornado Argument Evolve. Firefighter. In terms
[39:39] of parking, we're going to need to take the parking
[39:41] spaces for the entire duration for our shoe just to
[39:44] keep it clear for circuit shots when we look up
[39:46] the street. We look down the street. And the buildings
[39:49] that we're going to be dressing businesses on. So part
[39:54] of there for alternate part of what we're looking at
[39:57] is we do want to approach for it to be
[39:59] approaching the grocery store. I meant some parking for them,
[40:02] but we don't want to take all of our way.
[40:03] Obviously we want to make sure people get the grocery.
[40:06] Storm. They got there on groceries and get in and
[40:08] out. And we'll facilitate as much in and out as
[40:11] we can. There is a parking lot to the far
[40:15] end. The west. The west side. That the city has
[40:19] that we'd be looking to rent from the city to
[40:21] accommodate people parking there. For the duration of us. Being
[40:26] tapped. Trying to think of. Anything else. That I have.
[40:31] Alright guys, we're looking to film at the food bank
[40:34] of the road as well. So we want to make
[40:37] istonations of animal to turn that too far, actual, uh,
[40:41] library. Us. That's all for them. How it is. And
[40:47] who we're not turning on my marine to library. Yeah.
[40:55] And your main setup that was at the arena and
[40:59] the thing was the big and camp. All over basement,
[41:03] our big large trucks and everything we're going to be,
[41:06] I believe is the plant right now. That's also where
[41:09] our main crew lunch and everything will be. Our preparing
[41:11] will be up there. So we don't have any Ring
[41:14] Down and taking away parking for what we are already
[41:17] taking away from for filming. To free up the other
[41:20] spaces for residents. And people count. Our catering is supplied
[41:27] by our own cater that follows us to show. But
[41:32] I can tell you from experience, we're in towns like
[41:34] this whenever we break for lunch, the crew they can
[41:36] badge lower restaurants. Uh, as well as our pregnant raptors,
[41:40] they're more than likely being restaurant. And. Uh, yeah. That's
[41:49] what I have to say so far. What you type.
[41:54] Could you scroll down on the stock requort. Well. Gives
[42:03] the lights. And that. S. Like the street lights of
[42:07] what we wish to accomplish. Yeah. Our goal is to
[42:11] have control. For our teams. And the intention is not
[42:17] to affect the pressure speed like that. The servicing with
[42:22] street. Safety research. They're making them that way. But, uh,
[42:27] our goal, so we're concurrently, I said. And of course,
[42:32] anytime we're not here on weekends, we will open up
[42:36] and, you know, really argument everything. That we're clear as
[42:40] much about ourselves out of the way. Well. You know,
[42:44] things happen. All right. Thank you very much for the,
[42:49] uh, the lowdown. We'll have some questions. I'm going to
[42:52] start off. I know Paul is busy today. So we'll
[42:56] go with all you had some questions for you, gentlemen
[42:59] here. Filming. That's my company. Tired. Go ahead. I'm fine.
[43:08] If you can hear me. Financial implication for the
[43:18] town. What's the town receiving financially? Maybe I jumped on
[43:21] it and missed it. But for the rental and everything
[43:24] that we, the company's using the properties, the arena, I
[43:28] take it, they mean the arena, they don't mean the
[43:29] arena. They mean the, the, uh, fairgrounds. Me and the
[43:33] building as well or what's the. I think they're also
[43:36] renting the upstairs of the arena building. For one share.
[43:40] Yeah. So they're paying the rental fees for any of
[43:43] our, any of our parking lots. There's a rental fee
[43:47] on our usual five film permit. And then any of
[43:52] the other fees is going to the businesses as they're
[43:56] renting their space or changing their building. So the parking
[44:01] lots are included under the rented. Yes. Yeah. My goal
[44:08] is when we rent the parking spaces, it's going to
[44:10] be for the townsfolk to be in. Yeah. We want
[44:13] to limit our stuff to parking farther away up at
[44:16] the fairgrounds. For all of our improving. Well, paying respectively
[44:21] paying the 500 dollar permit fee wasn't ever to meant
[44:24] to be renting parking spots. Exactly. That's separate. Yeah. The
[44:29] film we could be on top of us renting for
[44:31] the parking as well. Correct. So if we talked about
[44:36] what we're renting about for what's the, what's the plan?
[44:40] We had discussions about the fee. They just haven't finalised
[44:43] what they want rent yet. So once we do that,
[44:46] then we'll be sending them a bill for the rental
[44:48] of those for the number. And is that just that's
[44:50] a staff decision, not council decision? Um, well, I haven't
[44:55] had any policy on that. So we were just going
[44:58] to kind of go. Never rented it. So I just
[45:01] hope we're asking for enough. Well, look at some money.
[45:04] Yes. Business
[45:14] owners, business owners. If you ask the majority of them
[45:16] see no economic benefit to the town to do this,
[45:20] there is been a bunch of misinformation outright misinformation and,
[45:27] and business owners are not generally speaking, are not in
[45:30] favor for any of this. So, um, it's, yeah, it's
[45:35] been poorly done. And, um, it needs parking still not
[45:40] being addressed, um, by having the spots, um, yeah. So
[45:47] that's the majority. There's some that yes have signed contracts,
[45:50] but the ones who have not, um, that's a long
[45:53] way to come. So my suggestion would be is we
[45:56] don't, uh, give a permit. And so we know the
[45:59] downtown, we have to ensure that the residents and the
[46:04] business owners continue to operate and continue to make the
[46:07] money they have any other times. Yes. Crew. So to
[46:12] the point the crews go downtown, other film shoots, business
[46:16] owners would say that's absolutely incorrect. They may have one
[46:18] person or two people in through the day. So, um,
[46:22] but that's, that's from our business community. And yeah. Anyone
[46:32] else with the question again. One of the days that
[46:37] you've filmed dates there. Yeah. So long, you're one of
[46:40] the cooling days you're showing that you're going to be
[46:43] filming on Sunday, September 20th. What sort of time frame
[46:47] you're looking at. The reason I'm asking is it does
[46:50] get busy at certain times. On the main drag. And
[46:56] I'm just sort of curious. About how it's going to
[46:58] work. There's one church at the top of the hill
[47:02] across the water tower. That saw anytime from. That's one
[47:09] of the services. Oh, hard to possibly and two. Yeah,
[47:14] I think it is kind of two. Yeah, 10 o'clock
[47:15] the true service and then 230. So about a half
[47:19] an hour. So 930, you're going to see a bunch
[47:22] of vehicles go up. And maybe an hour and a
[47:25] half later. Go down again. Because a bulk of them
[47:29] either, you know, they're all in town and everything else.
[47:32] So just sort of keep that in your great dark.
[47:36] Cause it is busy. Definitely will. Uh, and the anticipate
[47:41] called that day is around noon. Cause that will keep
[47:44] that in mind to make sure. With parent traffic stoppages
[47:49] on that face just so we can expect. Two tribu.
[47:55] And how weather dependent is that date. Is this one
[47:58] is all our dates are pretty solid. Unless we get
[48:02] something really unforeseen like, um. Rental downpours and lightning is
[48:09] sort of that funding is really lonely back. And source
[48:13] down and stop us to push it here or so,
[48:16] but it wouldn't be more than that. It's not. And
[48:18] then the only other city could happen. Like I said,
[48:23] it'll be a super prior was arriving in front of
[48:25] our doctors institute. That was, that would be the only
[48:28] thing that would, but we would know that right away.
[48:34] The most part we just tried to push through with
[48:37] what we need for our family schedule. As we're going
[48:42] to put away me, but you guys are going to
[48:44] be 84 locations. For this block of filming. And you're
[48:48] a very important location for us. And we appreciate the
[48:52] time that it takes to set us up. And we
[48:55] will, uh, adjust. Concerns of time. We're going to go
[49:00] back and talk to businesses. And we will, I want
[49:03] to make this a positive too. I have been in
[49:05] the industry over 20 years myself. And I felt small
[49:09] towns. And I do want to hand it to have
[49:12] a positive experience. And we welcome back again. Anyone knows,
[49:19] one. Thank you guys for obviously coming. Take a talk
[49:23] to explain this. There's certainly been a lot of, I
[49:26] guess, uh, I don't want to say misinformation, but a
[49:29] lot of confusion, I guess in terms of who you
[49:31] talk to and to understand maybe each individual business owner
[49:34] may have had a different experience, um, I know parking
[49:37] was a big one. So thank you for addressing that.
[49:39] I'd be renting out the back alley space for, you
[49:42] know, townspoken able to come in utilise. This schedule here,
[49:48] did the local business owners go similar schedule so that
[49:50] they have an idea or an all being distributed. Okay.
[49:54] Analysis was another one. So this will probably clarify quite
[49:56] a few things. I know even just seeing the shooting
[49:59] schedule here. I mean, is probably a big relief because
[50:02] they were under the anticipation or sorry, Prussian, it was
[50:04] going to be like a month long when in fact,
[50:06] it's not, um, something I want to mention since I'm
[50:10] always the ad schools also going back since you guys
[50:13] are going to be located quite heavily around that area.
[50:16] We do have a number of children that rely on
[50:18] bosses. Hans, the school board or busy. Have they been
[50:23] made aware of this because certain closures will have hacked
[50:27] how they navigate the allowing other arrangements. As of right
[50:31] now, no, but we more than happy to notify them
[50:35] about everything and give them apps for plans. That is
[50:38] a priority. We don't want anybody to miss their bus.
[50:40] We want them to all get to their squamo. Yeah.
[50:42] School. The first day goes backwards on the eight. So,
[50:45] um, again, is this short term? But I mean, it's
[50:48] definitely going to be how they're getting around. You also
[50:50] have learning that you can throw it out. Sorry. Yeah.
[50:55] You get a clear contact. We'll definitely make sure there's
[50:57] a clear plan for those. I guess one thing I'd
[51:02] also say is, I mean, we've never encountered a project
[51:04] of this magnitude. Um, so we're kind of learning as
[51:07] we're going as well. Um, I just, just, I guess
[51:11] from just a touch on something, Paul kind of got
[51:13] into, I guess with, again, all the little bits and
[51:15] sonners kind of, you know, you hear one thing and
[51:18] you hit all the small town. Um, I would say
[51:20] that I wish maybe we had. Gone some of these
[51:25] things Iron Dote a little earlier. I think the business
[51:28] own. Had major concerns. They could have coordinated with the
[51:31] GIA of a Council. We could have kind of had
[51:34] everyone here. Um, that way I think it would have
[51:36] just alleviated a lot of the stress and a lot
[51:39] of the headache. Something that all kinds of do. But
[51:44] again, we're learning this is a first. This doesn't seem
[51:46] as invasive. And, you know, I guess as bad as
[51:50] it was being went on B. Sorry, no, no, please,
[51:54] why? Adamant is going to be taking over, like not
[51:57] taking over, but headlinking is more goal is we're going
[52:00] to talk to everybody. You actually everybody notice the exact
[52:03] schedule, all businesses up and down. So we know everyone's
[52:07] on the same page. For what we're doing. And I
[52:10] said, businesses were applying scient. Play both. Yeah. Um, I
[52:18] guess, yeah, just there from when I guess they were
[52:20] initially approached to now, I guess there's still a lot
[52:23] of laundry. So again, like I know this is one
[52:25] of the big concerns. This should help them. Um, Clarifying
[52:28] and advising on your plan to rent out the parking
[52:31] space or parking lot stories. So that way it doesn't
[52:34] comple. Affect the businesses. It will obviously affect the traffic
[52:38] because unfortunately the way the town goes, we have so
[52:40] limited spark parking now is if you can't get parking
[52:43] off the time, they'll just kind of keep going. Right.
[52:46] So that is a kind of a growing concern that
[52:48] some of the businesses face. Um, let me just say
[52:52] here another side X compile some questions. Just from talk
[52:56] to people in the area. But I mean, a lot
[52:57] of this stuff is something you're going to have to
[52:59] work out with. I think yeah, we should just take
[53:03] note that BA should probably be the call next time
[53:06] we'll show these gentlemen. How can we get one into
[53:08] this volume again? Uh, and we just kind of look
[53:11] at all of the aspects. Again, this is learning process
[53:14] for us too. Uh, I mean, that's kind of it
[53:18] for me. I mean, I wanted to address obviously school
[53:20] buses. Thank you guys for coming in and being here.
[53:22] This was a huge, I guess a huge question. We
[53:25] have a lot of people wondering. You can see, make
[53:29] sure I don't have it. And then I'll see it
[53:30] for you. Call for Joker touched on the church. Good.
[53:37] I'll pop up. But if I do let that be
[53:39] Mirko or their guys, somebody else to say. Thank you
[53:43] guys. Very good question. I wrote down, what is the
[53:50] bear. I'm assuming you've been talking to the exercise. Yes.
[53:57] Because they're usually not. How should I put this? Not,
[54:05] not. So, cause you, and usually we set up a
[54:08] link ahead. So, but I'm assuming you talk with them
[54:10] and they're okay with use of being there on the
[54:13] 20 seconds. Yeah. A little bit overlap. Yeah. Money talks,
[54:20] I think usually. Which is fine. And I will say
[54:23] I am blissfully unaware of any sort of, cause I
[54:27] don't think in town. Right. So whatever. I mean, I
[54:30] look at this like a construction job, right? Like it's
[54:32] going to suck for a little bit for, for some
[54:35] people. But I think the benefits that I think we
[54:38] can get out of it, I've got to turn that
[54:42] somehow. Yeah. We get some, I'm reading your last page
[54:47] here. Who knows? It's actually true or not. But I
[54:51] think we've got to try. And we've had other building
[54:54] that I think it's worth in another, right? I am
[54:57] the people I talk to for other filming projects. They've
[55:01] been pretty damn pleased about it. So I don't see
[55:03] why this would be a. I'll echo, yeah, I think
[55:07] the BIA probably should have been involved earlier because if
[55:11] you are shutting down the whole downtown, that is going
[55:13] to. This word. And it's only for 10 days. We'll
[55:18] survive. And I'm not going to walk away meaning anybody
[55:22] with a seller taste in their mouth business was. We
[55:25] will communicate with everybody afterwards with a follow up. And
[55:28] then we will discuss certain things. If the loss of
[55:31] business here or there was certain ones we'll discuss with
[55:33] them, they will make it. As well. Oh, and yeah,
[55:40] I don't know about people will let you take down
[55:42] that regular. Like people are laughing. I mean, I think
[55:46] look like once every two months people want a crosswalk
[55:49] somewhere. So if we get a 10 quarter, we want
[55:51] you might just have to leave it there. It's done
[55:54] properly as we get through. Don't get people's hopes. I
[56:01] don't make everything worthwhile. You know, it's funny how things
[56:05] like that. I usually do, right? So again, yeah, not,
[56:10] not to downplay if there have been issues, but I
[56:12] think, you know, our job is to try to make
[56:15] this positive different time. You have to let you guys
[56:17] are here. Yeah. If you've got a sort of a
[56:21] designated whipping boy, I wouldn't want to be you a
[56:23] couple of the eights. I like to learn this for
[56:27] something similar before another jurisdiction before. And I've always left
[56:30] them in the hose. I had copies with the mayors
[56:32] afterwards about how successful the film cut me in. And
[56:36] I'm sure this will be no different than anything. So
[56:38] there you go. There's your handing of my coffee. It'll
[56:42] be not.
[56:52] Me. Yeah. No. I'm, I'm, I think I've got the
[56:59] only thing I want to just say this is more
[57:01] on us is in terms of like the winemaking and
[57:04] some of the major changes. I'm assuming we're going to
[57:05] have that or somebody appointed to kind of oversee and
[57:08] approve and all stuff. So already on and very much
[57:10] involved in the conversation. Yes. Yeah. You guys already addressed
[57:13] who I was going to suggest our chosen line of
[57:15] contractors, but you guys already addressed. That's what you're doing.
[57:18] Sounds up there. Sorry. That was it. Right. Thank you
[57:22] very much, Jim, for coming in. And yeah. Oh, you
[57:26] got anything else? I see it. Falling there. Just, yeah,
[57:30] I was just going to, two more comments. So as
[57:32] far as Matt goes communication is key. So today nobody
[57:35] knew that the pylons are going to be out on
[57:37] Main Street blocking off parking. Yes. It's only till noon
[57:40] this morning, but there was zero communication. So that'd be
[57:43] one, uh, the second bit, it's way easier to sell
[57:46] if the direct link to residents that we can say,
[57:49] Hey, we got XYZ out of this. Right now when
[57:53] ASTA said to telling as far as I only knew
[57:54] was getting 500 bucks for the filming permit. So if,
[57:57] if we have a direct, uh, say a joke about
[58:00] the crosswalk, but to me, I thought, well, the crosswalk
[58:03] after this paid for and installed after this would be
[58:06] perfect. So, um, but yeah, that's those are the two
[58:10] things. Communication and a direct link to something that we
[58:14] can say, Hey, this is what we got left with.
[58:17] So. But yeah, thank you. Thank you, Paul. We will
[58:21] make sure. To send out from this point forward. I'd
[58:26] be happy to talk with you directly throughout the remaining
[58:28] of the process here to address the server. And with
[58:32] all of you. Yeah. Thank you. Just since he again,
[58:39] just to try to alleviate some of the, I guess
[58:41] everybody, is this, is this public can be made public.
[58:45] Or how do we feel? We're not posting it online.
[58:49] Yes. We're going to give it to the businesses. Yes.
[58:51] We're addressing that. But I don't want to put it
[58:54] on. Website. This devil can fail. We can do, we
[58:58] can do a better schedule. Like we'll do a cleaner
[59:01] one. It has a little bit. Tighter timeline for it.
[59:04] That way you can allow you guys to post for
[59:06] filming tastes. Okay. That would be ideal. Just so just
[59:09] because again, like I like, you know, Paulson, Paul's probably
[59:11] got text messages from anger people. Right. So we can
[59:17] certainly, we'll throw that together. So we're clear and tighter.
[59:21] Yeah. And then we can. Yeah. That way because if
[59:24] someone's trying to go get the morning coffee or something
[59:25] like that or totally grocery store, they know now, okay,
[59:28] this day, this time period, they kind of got a
[59:30] heads up. If they miss it, they miss it. Well,
[59:32] at least we can, we have something that we get
[59:34] to kind of share. You know, while you're maybe integrity
[59:37] of your project and on jeopardizing anything, of course, but
[59:40] giving the residents something, I think that would probably go
[59:43] a long way. Yeah, no problem. We're also going to
[59:45] be doing a filming notification in the town for what
[59:48] comes out. That'll have them right down on our days
[59:50] where our trucks are parking, you know, anything like that.
[59:52] That's typically what we do. We'll get that sooner than
[59:55] later for everybody just with the prep coming up. That's
[59:58] going to start in certain sections. We'll have a breakdown
[1:00:01] on that. And that notification will go as wide as
[1:00:04] you guys want us to do. Normally we'll cover the
[1:00:06] entire downtown stretch and then we'll go out as well
[1:00:09] to feeder areas. And then that notification can be posted
[1:00:12] online as well. We've had that for lots of filming
[1:00:16] them. We've got to do it. No, if that's a
[1:00:18] different scale, but yeah, that's why just because it's going
[1:00:22] to impact. I mean, some people wouldn't really bother at
[1:00:25] all, but it just, I got to get just to
[1:00:26] be good. To know people, you know what? And again,
[1:00:29] just because we're getting into school, because it's like a,
[1:00:31] if it was, you know, filming in the month of
[1:00:33] August, there'd be a lot easier to vague. Some of
[1:00:35] the traffic and everything else. But one school starts, it
[1:00:38] gets quite a bit more busy. Cause then you're going
[1:00:41] to have a lot. You've got a lot of foot
[1:00:42] traffic too, right? Like they've eliminated some of the busing
[1:00:45] and stuff. So I mean, you got to have a
[1:00:46] lot of young kids also kind of walking around. You're
[1:00:49] going to have to work with. Yeah. We'll make sure
[1:00:51] we can see if we get to where they. Officers
[1:00:56] with us. Yeah. Like I said, just this is more,
[1:01:01] this is our first time actually kind of talked to.
[1:01:03] We're learning a lot. On it as we're sitting here.
[1:01:06] So a lot of these things are going to kind
[1:01:07] of come up again. As we're just a big conversation.
[1:01:10] So that's good. Appreciate it. And so just one for
[1:01:17] the. Pra. Three weeks.
[1:01:27] No, I'm sorry. See, I don't know. Sorry, I interrupted
[1:01:33] you. Yeah, no, I'm just saying that you can always
[1:01:38] come get a call. With Jason. Probably be a good
[1:01:44] idea. It might be beneficial. I'll just throw it out
[1:01:47] there too. The BIDing on the first to September as
[1:01:49] well. It's like I know you're going to be the
[1:01:51] gentleman in town. So if you want to come in.
[1:01:54] Yeah. I want to talk to the BA. And I'm
[1:01:58] as well. Okay. Perfect. Well, I'm one of the members.
[1:02:01] Yeah. So that's why it's like, you have been talking
[1:02:03] to the BA. Just not as a PIA. Remember you
[1:02:06] talk with as a business owner. Yeah. Usually after these
[1:02:10] meetings, the thing is that he downloads the window. I
[1:02:15] thought our plan is following. Well, of course, I just
[1:02:20] got, but we typically do make it to donation to
[1:02:24] DIA. Okay. That was going to be one of the
[1:02:25] next questions. I know that was going to arise. So
[1:02:27] thank you very much. Yeah. I think that again, with
[1:02:29] what you guys provided here today, and I think it's
[1:02:31] going to put a lot of the concern at ease,
[1:02:34] um, and again, you guys are still working points on
[1:02:36] the local business owners. Hopefully you guys can just get
[1:02:38] all that sorted out soon. Yeah. Um, and again, pop
[1:02:41] into the BI meeting on the first, the 106 o'clock,
[1:02:45] probably done on, but I can, we'll get behind. Yeah.
[1:02:48] Yeah. Uh, okay. That's it. For me. Anybody else, let's
[1:02:54] go. Okay. So I can leave accomplished what we've sort
[1:03:00] of said to do here today. And that is, you
[1:03:03] came in and give us your process and what you're
[1:03:07] going to do. You've heard of our concern. And I
[1:03:09] think between us. We will keep it constant. Communication on
[1:03:16] how we're going to do this. And hopefully we'll wish
[1:03:18] ourselves both reduck. And yeah, something that in the end,
[1:03:25] everybody will say, Jesus, that was great. But it's my
[1:03:30] hope. And there we go. All right. Any more questions
[1:03:35] for us. Uh, nothing from my hands. I just want
[1:03:39] to thank you there, Soldman Council Tuesday. A lot of
[1:03:44] us to present this team. Okay. So this will be
[1:03:46] seeing each other once we're all. Thanks. For watching. Ocean
[1:03:51] by Lauren. So can we fill B resolve the Council
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[1:04:07] all in favor. Great cookies. And he's like, you're going.
[1:04:12] To. Secure him and have one.
[1:04:32] Through the door and what are you. Going to do?
[1:04:40] We're in an helmet. I don't see a helmet. Don't
[1:04:43] ask me. I'm just like.
[1:05:00] Do you do that helmet for that bike up there.
[1:05:02] No, not yet. Oh. He. S not shreds a helmet
[1:05:06] enough. Pretty much. Pretty much, but you know how hard
[1:05:10] it is. To find something for this big deal. To
[1:05:13] read about you on Facebook later. So we have a
[1:05:21] resident concerned about and everybody had the townspire about the
[1:05:25] e - bike. Saturation. I just heard what news yesterday
[1:05:34] in Toronto's doing study started today. So having a lot
[1:05:39] of problems. They had 540 nine collisions between pedestrians and
[1:05:44] he likes last. Year. It is in front of their
[1:05:48] mind. Their strategy is education. And then. Nobody is really
[1:05:57] positive about where these e - bikes are. They're not
[1:06:00] allowed on the sidewalks. I don't think anybody really knows
[1:06:04] the rules. So where you can drive these things with
[1:06:07] Cybox are. Placed. You can't. And the parking to them
[1:06:13] too. So please leave in Toronto starting today are going
[1:06:16] around. Just try to make people aware of where they're
[1:06:22] supposed to be. In helmets and all the other stuff.
[1:06:26] That was mentioned. And after the education pieces produced and
[1:06:32] they think is known, then, um, Enforcement Logan. People being
[1:06:38] claborately abusive. Education is taught. I think that idea. I
[1:06:47] don't change the time earlier. That you've come to our
[1:06:49] time in Arbits on our town end wherever our police
[1:06:55] services touches. Like I said, shoulder. We're into one place
[1:07:00] that we do. It's hard to enforce. E - bike.
[1:07:04] Guys driving wherever we want. They are not. So I
[1:07:08] don't know what the best attempt would be. Maybe something
[1:07:14] on our site to say, look at these things off
[1:07:17] the street. They're just going to be lips out. We
[1:07:24] have to. Because you do notice. It on.
[1:07:33] Thank you. All. So much. So the OPP and the
[1:07:41] various services board met last month. For this exact thing.
[1:07:49] E - bikes. Scooters. And the issues surrounding the various
[1:07:54] communities. There is pilot program that was going down. It
[1:08:02] still is. And it's been extended automatically to 2029. The
[1:08:06] biggest concern with that at that time was that there
[1:08:10] was no input from a few groups that are directly
[1:08:15] impacted by. One is seniors. And the other is
[1:08:25] disabilities. And how that relationship with the scooters and bikes.
[1:08:34] On the sidewalks. Work. At this point again, I think
[1:08:41] you touched on it as well, that there is sort
[1:08:43] of limited. Can do. Um, but like e - bikes,
[1:08:50] there are a number of rules with a knee bike.
[1:08:55] With regards to the size. Needs pedals. Weight, top speed,
[1:09:02] et cetera. But the scooters, there's a scooter. And so
[1:09:09] the police are sort of on or on the board
[1:09:13] of not so much enforcement, but education. Because you see
[1:09:17] a lot of them granted anecdotally. But you see a
[1:09:21] lot of the kids without comments. Pride in those bikes.
[1:09:26] Or write those scooters. And they're not going slow. And
[1:09:30] they don't have. Necessarily just one person on them. They
[1:09:34] usually have two. So quite often they'll have. To. So,
[1:09:40] yeah, it's not just here, it's everywhere. Um, and it's
[1:09:46] something that the OPP is very well aware of, but
[1:09:48] they're also limited by what they can do with respect
[1:09:52] to the terrible how we traffick Act and other Ontario
[1:09:56] regulations and Bylaws and such. So they recommend recommendation changes
[1:10:05] is an education piece first. And, you know, because like,
[1:10:09] the big thing is, if you see kids on bikes,
[1:10:12] the majority of the kids on bikes are wearing helmets.
[1:10:15] As soon as you get them on a scooter, I
[1:10:17] don't know what's going. On. For some reason. And the
[1:10:22] disconnect of, well, I'm here wearing that helmet on a
[1:10:25] bike. And why you're not wearing a helmet on the
[1:10:29] scooter. So that has to be tied together again. And
[1:10:35] just good reserve by correctly, are inclinging allowed in bike
[1:10:40] lane. They're more horizon vehicle. On this drive. They can't
[1:10:46] drive at bike mode. Here it's like. And. I just,
[1:10:53] like on the sidewalks, of course, dangerous tag. Because you
[1:10:56] walk out of the grocery store and they go, okay,
[1:10:58] he's coming 40 kilometers down the road. Bang. So we're
[1:11:04] going to have to look at something. Just, I don't
[1:11:07] want to throw anything yet. YouTube, but I guess with
[1:11:10] our police, our, our aware of fact. And we are
[1:11:15] going to have to do a. Is there be this
[1:11:19] is the second letter root we have received as Council
[1:11:22] and there's another one prior to this one as well.
[1:11:25] Can I get those three separate? Inside of that so
[1:11:28] I can forward it to attach me back and say,
[1:11:31] Hey, listen, this is still an ongoing thing. So that
[1:11:35] they're aware. And also as an FYI, one of the
[1:11:38] questions asked that the meeting was with respect to injuries
[1:11:41] caused by the East Energy bikes and there's no uptick
[1:11:47] as it were possible. Does anybody say that they've been
[1:11:51] aware of. For injuries with respect to these scooters or
[1:11:55] the bike. So that was asked. But nothing, nothing that
[1:12:02] they had on file that were specifically ISO or civil.
[1:12:05] It might be something that it might be on a
[1:12:09] question later on, bringing the hospital. So it was this
[1:12:11] caused by. Test. Anyway. It makes sense. So what we'll
[1:12:19] do is, yeah, get those two and four. Well, Detachmander.
[1:12:26] I can imagine all the towns in our area. He's
[1:12:29] the Detachment Commander. Who has the same problem. Had in
[1:12:38] a unified way. Every time he's the same. Hey, come
[1:12:44] on. Yeah. I mean, it's like Call John Carolina too.
[1:12:48] We've, we've spoken about this. I think even before we
[1:12:51] got complaints, we've talked about it. Because of just near
[1:12:54] misses that we want to push on the observed in
[1:12:56] town here. But I mean, it's just tough spot for
[1:13:00] us. It's going to kind of start the mill, right?
[1:13:02] Because we've already established a can of Brad J these
[1:13:05] guys down. And same thing. I mean, it's on the
[1:13:07] OPP to enforce. But the best thing we could do
[1:13:10] is education educate the parents. But I think our last
[1:13:13] house meeting I spoke myself. I've seen parents right now
[1:13:15] with their kids doubling on the things. Like again, Councillor
[1:13:18] John Colube too. And I mean, at the end of
[1:13:20] the day, they're buying these things. They're letting them go
[1:13:23] wild on them. Um, we're fortunate that nothing's happened yet.
[1:13:27] But unfortunately, on wood, I like for something that happened
[1:13:32] in a positive light before something does, but I mean,
[1:13:35] yeah, we can educate and talk a little bit of
[1:13:37] face. But I mean, there'll be some sort of enforcement.
[1:13:42] Because even the bikes to touch on that, I think
[1:13:44] as a, as an adult writing a full - size,
[1:13:46] I think you're supposed to be on the road. Whether
[1:13:49] it's a fight lanterning, how supposed to be on the
[1:13:50] sidewalk. Scooters, I guess, have kind of fallen into a
[1:13:53] grey area. Um, as you can touch on there, like
[1:13:56] city Toronto. And I mean, this is all going to
[1:13:59] brand. You can pick these things up off the side
[1:14:01] of the road. Disease scooters and just go crazy. Right.
[1:14:04] So. The, uh, they got to do something totally sooner
[1:14:08] than later. Uh, but I guess I'm sure we provide
[1:14:11] a correspondence. There you know. We want to, we are
[1:14:14] aware. We have the discussion. Uh, we agree cohort to
[1:14:17] believe that education is kind of the best. Right now.
[1:14:20] Um, if there any parents watching or listening that Czech
[1:14:23] B things, I mean. I don't know. I speak your
[1:14:26] kids do better. But the amount of times I've seen
[1:14:28] kids fly around these same for like six kilometers an
[1:14:30] hour moments. It's crazy. I would never let them skip
[1:14:33] one of these things like it. Right. Some of these
[1:14:35] kids remind kids class. So I know how old they
[1:14:37] are. And the two young to be operating these things.
[1:14:43] Thanks. Yeah. Just one last comment. So the OVP has
[1:14:49] pretty much come out and seed at least here locally
[1:14:52] and detachment that they are not going to be able
[1:14:54] to enforce their way of the usage of the e
[1:14:58] scooters. So that's why I think one of the sort
[1:15:01] of go to the schools possibly do an educational component.
[1:15:05] Maybe we talk to the school boards and say ban
[1:15:09] eat weights and these scooters off the properties. As well.
[1:15:12] So the kids can't take them to school. So that
[1:15:15] also might be satisfaction. So allow skateboards and scooters. Like
[1:15:23] non - water. So officially to the capacity, I don't
[1:15:26] know. I have to ask. I know a lot of
[1:15:29] schools of fans skateboards like eons scooters that fell into
[1:15:34] that. But there's now. You'd be interesting to see, I
[1:15:40] guess we'll find out the next couple of weeks that
[1:15:42] we see a catalogue up front. I also can't really
[1:15:46] anticipate a kid wanting to leave that thing out there.
[1:15:48] You can't walk it out of the same time. Yeah.
[1:15:50] So then you just don't use it. They're going to
[1:15:53] have to do an actual bike or no, I agree.
[1:15:56] I don't think we'll start seeing them pop up there.
[1:15:58] It's kind of what I'm getting at. I mean, they're
[1:16:00] too expensive to lose. But I mean, yeah, it is
[1:16:03] getting way worse. Cause again, the amount of times I'm
[1:16:05] seeing the parents how double their kids. It just, it's
[1:16:08] mind boggling. And I'm actually see them, they're ending up
[1:16:11] over the ball diamonds. I saw this past weekend. Some
[1:16:13] kids are taking a lot on Amaranths now. The takers
[1:16:15] of the past, the trails, like kicking things off road.
[1:16:19] You know, it's like the kids were in flip flop,
[1:16:22] right? Like it doesn't make any sense. Like, you know,
[1:16:25] um, we would hope that we wouldn't be having these
[1:16:27] conversations. But, um. I don't know. I guess from a
[1:16:30] talent perspective now, because I think we can put out
[1:16:33] on social media, Facebook page is the easiest thing to
[1:16:36] post. Hey guys, you know, we're aware of the concern.
[1:16:40] Maybe step one, do this. Up to design. Um, is
[1:16:43] there any age gifts you might notice? Is there any
[1:16:45] atristrictions to these things? Cause I know some places we
[1:16:47] were wondering 16 and under 16 is for e -
[1:16:51] bike. But the scooters and scooters are scooter. And you
[1:16:58] can see, like you said, I've seen little kids on
[1:17:02] Juven had six year olds for her years, but I
[1:17:06] don't think five, six, seven years old and around these
[1:17:08] little bees. I was like, man, you get those bumps
[1:17:11] on hammer at the end. Yeah. So that's why they're
[1:17:14] on the sidebar. Anything that we put out, I would
[1:17:21] like to see what the OP is putting. On. Yeah.
[1:17:24] And we can just piggyback off of it or even
[1:17:25] take what you've already done and share it. I mean,
[1:17:29] that would be more ideal. The reality. So it's coming
[1:17:31] from that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. Yes.
[1:17:35] Okay. So back to the letter. There's mention here that
[1:17:41] rules dictate by talent by loss. And we know which
[1:17:44] ones. We have skateboard rull. That's all we don't have
[1:17:50] anything else. So I, cause we are policy as we
[1:17:54] respond to letters. Right. So. I'm assuming part of the
[1:17:59] response to this letter will be that we have no
[1:18:02] Bylaws specifically speak to scooters outside bottles. We'll organise Dean
[1:18:10] for some type of to me. That's what I. So
[1:18:12] technically it's not really illegal. Right. That or it's a
[1:18:16] grey area. Cause it's a new, it's a new technology.
[1:18:21] Right. And I think this is what we're saying. And
[1:18:23] then we would pivot to here's what the OPP recommends.
[1:18:27] And we repose that on our Facebook page, why not.
[1:18:30] And then the other thing I can say is, you
[1:18:32] know, I'm assuming we don't control grand violent collective. I
[1:18:36] love grand value. You're making very community association. We will
[1:18:39] not be posting on those. Right. Like we post and
[1:18:42] they want to share. If they want to share, right?
[1:18:45] But we're not posting on those. That's what I would
[1:18:47] say to this later. And then yeah, we get it.
[1:18:51] But I mean, at the end of the day, right,
[1:18:53] this is a parental responsibility thing. Right. You don't want
[1:18:56] your kid to have a head injury. At the very
[1:18:58] least, put a damn helmet on. But I mean, I'm
[1:19:01] not going, I'm not going to go around and say
[1:19:04] I'm going to pay the OPP a whole bunch of
[1:19:05] money to try to solve location from Roman Street at
[1:19:08] home. That's not their problem. That's right. Do some hacking.
[1:19:16] I think should I write some of that down or
[1:19:18] do you get back? No, please write a couple points
[1:19:21] just to, and that Council Direct Staff respond to the
[1:19:24] letter. With your two or three points that you said.
[1:19:29] Right, James? Just out of curiosity, the whole kids with
[1:19:35] regular bikes wearing helmets. That, like when I was a
[1:19:40] kid, that wasn't the thing. And it has been obviously
[1:19:43] in the last 10, 15 years, all of a sudden.
[1:19:48] It was a, so it was up a lot. Like
[1:19:50] the winter book. I'm not sure if it's highly traffic
[1:19:53] act or what, but there's, it's just a regular pedal
[1:19:56] bike. Child under X needs to have a helmet. So
[1:20:01] that's something that probably needs to be done. And again,
[1:20:04] I don't know how that was enforced because all of
[1:20:07] it. You just seem, just hurts a kiss and humbles.
[1:20:11] And that's all they are. But now, because of these
[1:20:13] e - scooter things, it's the same situation like that.
[1:20:17] I think the biggest thing is a lot of the
[1:20:20] direction and enforcement has to come from the province under
[1:20:24] the highway traffic actor or whatever act of the use
[1:20:27] for likes with using out. And how they operate when
[1:20:31] move. The other thing. Cop's going to pull over a
[1:20:37] 10 year old kid. And I see your ID. They
[1:20:40] do it furbice. I have a high camp. Their kid
[1:20:44] doesn't need to have ID. No, but they do pull
[1:20:47] them over and advise them. And I know some of
[1:20:52] you, sage it, some smaller local police. They have the
[1:20:55] opposite where they will award like give little gift certificate
[1:21:00] to the kids found. With their own saddle. Yeah. That
[1:21:03] was self - speciality. That's something that came up worrying
[1:21:08] what they expected behaviours. But they go to their buddies
[1:21:12] and say, Hey, look what I got. Because I was
[1:21:15] doing this in the cops. Yeah. Question. Wie sits again.
[1:21:22] You cited the trauma, what they're doing. The starting study.
[1:21:25] What was the end date or anticipation? Uh, it wasn't
[1:21:28] long. Well, I would like to, because the issue was,
[1:21:35] it was supposed to go up to 205 or even
[1:21:39] this year, but then they are maturity extended to 202.
[1:21:42] Okay. That's what I thought. I thought I heard that
[1:21:44] actually in there. This initial one is supposed to end
[1:21:48] this month. Like the reason for the reason I'm asking
[1:21:53] is because if that's what they're doing, that gives us
[1:21:55] an anticipation on when we could expect some sort of
[1:21:58] actual policy or type change. Right. So because like if
[1:22:02] it was, you know, ending soon, okay, cool. Maybe afterwards,
[1:22:05] they're going to say, okay, this is a problem. We'll
[1:22:07] now adjust this accordingly to reflect motarized e bytes, E
[1:22:11] scooters and whatnot. But otherwise, yeah, I mean, it goes
[1:22:13] up to 2028, 2029. I mean, it's going to be
[1:22:16] number of years. For those in any of that could
[1:22:18] actually be enforced. I think they had enough complaints. I
[1:22:22] hope so. Cause like I think the unit would touch
[1:22:24] on. It's just this is new stuff. Right. So hopefully
[1:22:27] they could just get ahead of it before again. We
[1:22:28] can talk about, um, but again, it's just unfortunately, I
[1:22:33] mean, even with these things, you're going to need actual
[1:22:34] enforcement. And I mean, you could put something out today
[1:22:37] and do your link here. There's still going to be
[1:22:38] a group of kids running around. Right. So again, education
[1:22:41] for the parents, I think it is almost important. But,
[1:22:45] uh, hopefully you'll be peaking. So the pilot program is
[1:22:50] sitting a requirements for elements, minimum age for the writers.
[1:22:55] And weight and speed restrictions. I guess, how are they
[1:22:58] going to govern the speeder strict? This is just a
[1:23:03] UK. I think it's a good cake. It could be
[1:23:06] Australia. They were all driving on the wrong side of
[1:23:08] the road. But, um, they, um, they have. Specialized equipment.
[1:23:16] That'll just pull over. And as soon as the C,
[1:23:19] you're hurt a bunch of people on the bikes or
[1:23:21] the scooters. A poll boar over here. And they've got
[1:23:25] a little dynamil set up. And then. A little dilemma.
[1:23:31] And they just tested or even they'll just take a
[1:23:34] look at the battery roller size of it and all
[1:23:38] that sort of stuff. Yeah. And ideally that would be
[1:23:40] good. But I mean, the reality is like a lot
[1:23:42] of these things are coming from China. I mean, they're
[1:23:44] not governed at all. I can choose how fast you
[1:23:46] want to go. They're supposed to be governed by, uh,
[1:23:48] government in Canada with respect to. But this is the
[1:23:51] size they're not going to. Well, they are one they
[1:23:54] declare the mod that commercial invoice in Canada Barter is
[1:23:58] supposed to be reviewing that. And it says it's only
[1:24:00] a 500 watt. And unless they actually go and look
[1:24:04] at it. But this is the thing. That comes in
[1:24:07] at 750. Yeah. All right. Beautiful discussion. Uh, I got
[1:24:16] a motion with my gene segment war. We resolve the
[1:24:19] Council received the Public question regarding rise non - card
[1:24:23] vehicles received from a house. And further the councill directs
[1:24:27] staff to respond. There are no by loss that specify
[1:24:33] mentioned E scooter. Staff. We'll communicate. The OBP and host
[1:24:41] best practices on town's face page. Down does not control
[1:24:45] the other pages mentioned in the letter and monoclosed. On
[1:24:50] them, but encourages to share. Okay. And comments on the
[1:24:56] number. We did it just.
[1:25:12] CO. On camera. Start just in a little
[1:25:22] bit Council know about small edition at the water flower.
[1:25:29] So that orange will radio system has better. Communication of
[1:25:34] this art. Took the, uh, took the lead on assuming
[1:25:41] that there wouldn't be any issues with this. They're not
[1:25:44] adding building changing. They're just plugging extra stuff in to
[1:25:48] what's arguing there and all of our units. If the
[1:25:54] questions have an answer, I don't, I don't speak technical
[1:25:57] radio steep, but if you want to know the specific
[1:26:00] sign. Inventory, what's it happens? So we know those peers.
[1:26:06] What's going on top? No, it's inside. The water cap.
[1:26:11] Yeah. There's, I guess they in the room there. They
[1:26:13] have a repeater on it. And then the existing antenna
[1:26:16] that's already up there will feed that. Doesn't have any
[1:26:22] impact on structure. Carry on. Is it the same way
[1:26:26] it's done on the Ornill To. Inside the tower. I
[1:26:30] don't know. I don't know how they do it in
[1:26:32] March for years. Oh, cause I would have assumed. It
[1:26:34] was funny outside the. Call. Well, like the antenna is
[1:26:37] over the outside. They're just using our interface. So I'm
[1:26:40] trying to do it. Oh, they may have a little
[1:26:43] building or something that they have theirs in our place.
[1:26:46] There's a little room in the water tower inside if
[1:26:48] that holds that stuff. Orange will man and set up
[1:26:51] different. Same thing. I'm going to ask the obvious question.
[1:26:59] I'm here. For somebody would ask if we're getting paid
[1:27:03] for that. Are they just? I didn't mention rents or
[1:27:08] anything. They're covering old cause. And it really is for
[1:27:13] our benefit because they come over here all the time
[1:27:15] for mutual aids. I didn't really think that would be
[1:27:19] on work. I just thought it was on the record.
[1:27:22] No problem. We're on orange roll. It doesn't cost the
[1:27:24] wind act. Those would be like. Yes. So now on
[1:27:33] the right, that's fine. Anyone else? Okay. Oh, get yourself
[1:27:42] a Council of C's. Staff memory coverage. Service. Question on
[1:27:49] favor. Mr. Port is regarding a request
[1:27:59] for maintenance on the Gashtani. Forgive me if I'm saying
[1:28:03] that wrong. Gosh, Toni drain into works. Johnny. Okay. Standard
[1:28:08] process. They've just met the request engineer looks at what
[1:28:11] needs to be done. We get somebody and do it.
[1:28:13] Then we build that on there. Question. Let me know.
[1:28:20] If I can't answer it. I'll try to get the
[1:28:21] answers. But. Yeah, prospects fortune to all
[1:28:31] land owners on the drain. Have vapened circulated because the
[1:28:35] usually, I don't know for clean out if there is,
[1:28:39] you can feel it or not. Or it's just. Fine.
[1:28:46] A little bit. Cause I'm assuming everybody on the drain
[1:28:52] would get some portion of it. Even though it's only
[1:28:57] like building three or four that'll get the major kids
[1:29:00] will happen. But everybody's going to get a bit of
[1:29:02] it on the ceiling. So only one person asks for.
[1:29:10] That. Is that how it was only the one that
[1:29:12] was password and then everybody has the paper. Because they
[1:29:15] all went, that those properties may not be the current
[1:29:17] owners. But the problem is back in the day all
[1:29:20] agreed that this was all happening on air proper. Right.
[1:29:26] To take your point farther doesn't even matter if you're
[1:29:29] able to land drains into it or not. During the
[1:29:33] drag simply says, if you can bring into a range,
[1:29:36] you have to pay. Because there is the potential kind
[1:29:42] of that there. That's why I just wondering what the
[1:29:44] appeal. But I think, yeah, with clean outs, because it's
[1:29:48] not, if we were going to try to change the
[1:29:50] drain at all, then. Which. Is 89
[1:30:00] and 20, oh. Seven.
[1:30:10] To save, c'est que ça manipule. So what? So they're
[1:30:17] just going to do the park in blue. Is that
[1:30:19] a tape? Every. Has to pay for. Those. It makes
[1:30:26] the whole and it gets, of course, like they will
[1:30:30] have the two properties immediately embody that section will pay
[1:30:35] most of it. Because they have the biggest benefit. But
[1:30:40] everybody, I'm assuming everybody will have a payload. Put it
[1:30:46] down the line, it's a bit of a benefit for
[1:30:48] everyone. There's a pencil benefit, right? Or maybe again, it
[1:30:53] depends on the pair of city catalysts. I don't remember
[1:30:56] what it is. All those properties in that outlined area
[1:31:03] for watershed. Yeah. And again, the defendant's based on having
[1:31:07] the acres to put it too, right? Because some of
[1:31:09] those farms are, it's not the entire farm that's going
[1:31:12] in. That provided this report. I did a little investigation.
[1:31:22] In our laws tracking. And I do think that the
[1:31:28] previous years as well too, in other sections. Thank you.
[1:31:32] Yeah. All of you, great skip. Plaintiff's periodically, but it's
[1:31:36] usually up to a landowner to passport. So a lot
[1:31:39] of what happens privately because it's cheaper and faster than
[1:31:43] just doing that. It makes her generally have your neighbours.
[1:31:52] The questions on the backscore, cinema. We resolve the Council
[1:31:57] receives the report. Cadget tiny draining works. Uh, Request.
[1:32:07] Drain it. That counts except that drain works under section.
[1:32:17] 74, the Drain Jack 1990 signed by FedEx 10, owner
[1:32:22] of Part Lot, 26 Concession 7 and for the Council
[1:32:26] Council Direct. Towns Drained Super Boot. Intended Miles Douglas of
[1:32:30] RJ Burn inside the associates. We have to proceed with
[1:32:34] maintenance work on the Gatch Shine Drain Nature Works as
[1:32:38] outlined in this letter. August 5, 2026. Equations aren't fair.
[1:32:54] Is bringing, um, to Council's attention, the opportunity to participate
[1:32:59] in, um, provincial province - wide discussions on modern wastewater
[1:33:04] corporations. The intent of my bringing list to you is
[1:33:10] to commit the town to saying, yes, we will switch,
[1:33:16] but I think that we need to at least be
[1:33:18] involved in the conversations. And, um. Where possible at least
[1:33:25] put our feet back into it on the potential indications
[1:33:29] of this new model for providing these surfaces. To the
[1:33:32] community. Whether it may eventually become a provincial mandate that
[1:33:40] you will switch. I don't know. It may just be
[1:33:44] that they stick with the larger cities and let us
[1:33:47] decide how we want to do it locally, but there's
[1:33:51] definitely some changes coming. So I thought I present this
[1:33:53] confirmation to you and let you know about this opportunity.
[1:33:58] Questions. I mean, I think at the end of the
[1:34:05] day, we're going to be told what we're doing. And
[1:34:07] it's not going to matter. But it's better to let
[1:34:10] each try that to just wait. So. Go for it.
[1:34:18] At this point it's not causing. No. You could, uh,
[1:34:21] just time. It's only you're sitting through these webinars. I
[1:34:24] just want to rest. Let's hopefully. Mark. First, what am
[1:34:31] I doing? No, it would be. Such an invision like
[1:34:38] a corporation inside the corporation. Well, no, it wouldn't be
[1:34:43] inside would be separate from, but recording too. But I
[1:34:49] hydro. Like hyper, right? That's what I'm thinking too. Yes.
[1:34:54] But becoming grand value water or duffer and water or
[1:34:58] the greater governary and water or something. So we were
[1:35:06] at the Western wardens yet to retopers. So there was
[1:35:10] that, um, our die life. Yeah. You know from Alberta.
[1:35:14] Is that sort of the same idea. Which was really
[1:35:18] interesting and made a lot. You know, made you think
[1:35:21] about it, but I'm still concerned about the prophetization of
[1:35:26] water. But that's just personal thing. I mean, we, but
[1:35:30] I think if we're not at the table, we don't,
[1:35:32] um, we don't know what's going on. My. Wife said
[1:35:39] she's talking about the job. And picking up. So on
[1:35:43] there and super blonde. Back. So yeah, so that was
[1:35:48] the same thing. Yes, it is. So I think this
[1:35:52] is the initial stage. But I agree with that.
[1:36:11] If you resolve the Councillor seeds reported expression of interest
[1:36:14] water and way to our corporation model and that counts
[1:36:18] of directs the CAO to respond to Rome's expression of
[1:36:22] interest posting for water in wayswater corporations by August 13,
[1:36:26] 2026. I discussed.
[1:36:39] Report is just an update to inquiry from Council regarding
[1:36:44] the replication master plan. And just to let you know
[1:36:50] that unfortunately. Master plan is not an eligible study under
[1:36:56] our DCs unless we delay doing it Monday update the
[1:37:03] plan or the DC that we can add it. But,
[1:37:06] um. As it says, we can still definitely have doing
[1:37:10] the master plan. It just feels like use NTC money.
[1:37:13] Too. Okay. Just letting you know. That keeps. Carry on.
[1:37:21] Okay. Oh, I guess we did the exit. Here's the
[1:37:24] mammal. Question. Right. I apologise for having just popped up
[1:37:27] there. I did just want to, if I may just
[1:37:29] jump back briefly to the old, waste the. Water operation
[1:37:33] thing. What's the down Unreal was reading through here? I
[1:37:36] guess like in overall benefit, roll versus. Khan. Like what
[1:37:39] is their own problem. To say, what do you guys
[1:37:41] believe on that? Like we feel like it's a great
[1:37:43] idea, a great move or just whatever. Sense I thought
[1:37:47] was participate in the expression of interest. Okay. So that
[1:37:50] we're aware of the conversations. But not really fake. Oh,
[1:37:53] you're not. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I'm okay with that then.
[1:37:56] Because like when I was reading through this, I was
[1:37:57] like, I don't like this. I want to express that.
[1:38:02] Okay. Cool. Okay. So I apologise for a jumper back.
[1:38:06] But thank you for allowing me. But I think we
[1:38:11] may not. Have much choice. I assume typically how these
[1:38:15] things go as well. But in the meantime, you know.
[1:38:22] We moved on. In. Yeah. Any computer. Yes.
[1:38:35] Okay. So we never. Did the. Pressure. Plan, I guess.
[1:38:40] How about a fact, I guess, so then going for
[1:38:42] the grant now for the, uh, billion project and stuff
[1:38:45] like that. In terms of like the master plan, like
[1:38:49] let's just say it's done. And then it's the longer
[1:38:51] part of it. I guess there's no heel.
[1:39:00] Before, I guess, uh, to kind of a company that
[1:39:03] requests for the grant that we're going after. For. The
[1:39:05] mom. It would have. Yeah. How would you? Grand applications
[1:39:09] submitted. We have the successful so far. Now, but she
[1:39:13] translated. It's becoming more and more an emphasis in these
[1:39:18] applications that you say, it's nice that you're asking, but
[1:39:21] where did you decide that this piece of thing was
[1:39:24] something you wanted to do. Yeah. So having that right
[1:39:27] creation master plan will strengthen any of those applications. For
[1:39:30] sure. I wasn't sure. What we actually had to do.
[1:39:34] In terms of the great. Application. Motion move by. Second
[1:39:42] by James, do you resolve this Council receiver update reputation.
[1:39:49] Master plan. All right. The next subject is the financing
[1:39:56] agreement. Community centre. Uh, between the three municipalities. We sent
[1:40:03] them at an agreement a year ago. And they have
[1:40:09] scented back with their amendment. It was sent to me
[1:40:17] that they both have signed the agreement as presented in
[1:40:22] your package. If felt Council is in concerns. I'm not
[1:40:29] sure where he was. The question is for us, I
[1:40:37] think you could sign this under restricted acts. If either
[1:40:41] of the other two municipalities all into restricted acts, they
[1:40:44] may not have assigned anything. Conspirations in their budget. So.
[1:40:51] Um. Not all century hundred times those municipalities are meeting
[1:40:56] before me. That council could probably be at least one.
[1:40:59] If not more. Um, but unfortunately this is where we
[1:41:04] are with this agreement. It'd be great. Great. We'll sign
[1:41:07] and send it back. And turn over to the finance
[1:41:10] department to build them and track it and all that
[1:41:13] stuff. But there's still some back and forth meat. Then.
[1:41:18] I have to take that time. Too. Negotiating or said,
[1:41:21] all right, let's start. Lauren. Yeah. Number nine on this.
[1:41:26] He's grand alley cease to seize boards pursuing. I didn't
[1:41:32] read eight. I cowarded there's an agreement. But ground value
[1:41:37] shell reimburse. Amen. Thanksgiffrax or for the total amount of
[1:41:39] contributions that have been contributing to the agreement. Both of
[1:41:42] us. So why would we do that? Especially we're ceasing
[1:41:46] the board. I mean, it's probably for some sort of
[1:41:49] good season. For you guys. So why would we want
[1:41:53] to reimburse them. Especially that much. I don't have an
[1:41:58] answer for that. Other than that, their position is that
[1:42:02] they feel that if they're no longer on the boards
[1:42:04] and they should be getting their money back at the
[1:42:07] interview. Did we write this? Who wrote this? Sorry. I'm
[1:42:10] assuming they're legal. Okay, right? Combination of EC. Yeah. We
[1:42:15] definitely consult out our evil or a great day. They
[1:42:19] can do it. I'll probably come back with this. Hopefully
[1:42:21] wrap it up before this tremendous. I don't think sorry.
[1:42:25] I don't know. It looked like you were free with
[1:42:26] me here. I mean, this is just one thing. But
[1:42:30] yeah, like we thought I really. Think they're kind of
[1:42:38] going as a whole. I mean, we definitely want to
[1:42:40] hand cover the box, so to speak. And just get
[1:42:43] our legal opinion on this. And if there any changes,
[1:42:46] I would definitely do that conversation rather than move it
[1:42:49] forward. That's it. I believe our original agreement, our regional
[1:42:56] document sent to them. I have it. Word such that
[1:43:02] if the board ceases to exist, um, the municipalities have
[1:43:08] any further obligations. But they've since added this compensation piece.
[1:43:15] To it. And I would, I, just anecdotal he wrote
[1:43:22] that their position is that if they're. If their constituents
[1:43:29] don't have representation in operating a facility, then they should
[1:43:35] not have to have had contributed capital to that facility.
[1:43:43] Even if it was years ago. That's their question. I
[1:43:49] just, I just want to clarification because it says should
[1:43:51] grant vale cease to participate. So is that a grant
[1:43:55] valley? Just like this room decides we're not, we're not
[1:43:58] doing the board anymore. That's right. Which one essentially mean
[1:44:01] that we're taking over. Oh, yelled in the building. I
[1:44:05] understand. Okay. Misunderstood. I understand. So if we decide, oh,
[1:44:08] that, okay. Cause then it said the next one says,
[1:44:12] if either one of the other two don't want to
[1:44:15] participate, we don't owe them anything. They just, it would
[1:44:19] stop. But it's if we decided we don't want to
[1:44:21] play anymore. Okay. Let's do. Thank you. Does this reflect
[1:44:27] the amount of C cells on the board disagreement. Is,
[1:44:32] do you know where. I'm here? That's not in this.
[1:44:35] No, there's that in this. That's also a discussion. I
[1:44:39] think we should have. I mean, we're about 16 two
[1:44:42] or. Six one percent. I mean, we should have our
[1:44:45] compensation. Right. Cause I do come in from the fire
[1:44:49] side, right? I mean, like we, we have so much
[1:44:51] more stake in it. And I guess responsibility, especially physically,
[1:44:56] their financially, sorry, I'll say, but I mean, they have
[1:44:59] the same amount of same amount say, you know what
[1:45:01] I mean? Like if they just fire is different, the
[1:45:03] community said, no, I understand what a piece. How many
[1:45:05] members still think maybe Centre boards? If you have 50
[1:45:09] grand valley has 50 percent of that board. It's four
[1:45:11] from us and then two from the other two. Okay.
[1:45:14] So it should be one less from either one of
[1:45:17] those parts. So they're shooting four for granted valley and
[1:45:21] three from the other two. Let them figure it in
[1:45:24] those three yard. But it should be four and three.
[1:45:27] But that's not the discussion. No, no, I'm, yeah, that's
[1:45:30] fine. Okay. So. I'll let you guys. Yeah. James. So
[1:45:38] just sort of. Expanding more on the planners question. So
[1:45:46] grey Valley decides to, I just wanted a straight and
[1:45:48] clear in my mind. And grandma hat decides to see
[1:45:51] the participating. We would volunteer to pay, what is it,
[1:45:59] the reimbursam or Anthony's carry for the total contributions. That's
[1:46:03] one of your grand value decides to pull it. Now
[1:46:06] if either one of those two pull out, which is
[1:46:12] section 10, we don't have to pay them back. But
[1:46:17] we just sort of carry on by ourselves at that
[1:46:19] point. So is that clear that we're not paying them
[1:46:22] back? I believe so bad. They, if you read down
[1:46:27] into section 10, then the contributions of that non -
[1:46:31] participating municipalities shall be in the end. And.
[1:46:41] Oh, just in paragraph A, B existing border agreement, um,
[1:46:47] so the board shall continue to be responsible. For the
[1:46:51] debt. It's not saying that because there are now another,
[1:46:55] the board agreement says that if a municipality leaves, they
[1:47:00] are responsible for any depths that they incurred. Essentially operating.
[1:47:07] That's what they're getting on here. But they're saying with
[1:47:09] the board agreement covers any operating Details. And yes, if
[1:47:15] Amarith leaves Amaranti, we compensate for the deficit that the
[1:47:20] responsibility for as board. But not the capital globe of
[1:47:23] the County. Not, but they don't want their money back.
[1:47:26] But they're also not going to make the rest of
[1:47:28] the payment going forward. That's what that number seven, I
[1:47:34] don't think that actually works in this situation. Point seven.
[1:47:41] Is that any money contain. Hey, yes, it does. Because
[1:47:45] we have, we have our annual unabs that we have
[1:47:48] to pay. And if we get a sponsorship, then we
[1:47:51] would use that money towards those annual payments. We can't
[1:47:54] use that as a lump sum. No, I would just,
[1:47:58] the way I read it is that if we say
[1:48:01] we get a three easy numbers, a hundred thousand dollar
[1:48:05] naming ranked. Is that a hundred thousand dollars is to
[1:48:10] go to decrease the loan. But we don't have a
[1:48:13] loan, do we? We have a venture. Yeah. So the
[1:48:16] way that doesn't decrease it. Well, we can apply it
[1:48:20] instead of taking money from townships. See, but that doesn't
[1:48:24] increase it. You're right. And I think that's not clear
[1:48:26] there because they think though all of a sudden it's
[1:48:29] called. It's not one point one million all of a
[1:48:30] sudden we only have one. So no. I see. So
[1:48:33] okay. Even if I made, I think we should have
[1:48:40] kinned killers discuss the use of that. Those funds. I
[1:48:43] mean, there we could do that. Should you get like
[1:48:46] a, uh, you know, great. Yeah. Okay, because those are
[1:48:52] important to discuss that, you know, any, whatever cool, but
[1:48:54] at least have the discussion rather than just automatically to
[1:48:58] do this. My biggest concern is. A number of years
[1:49:06] down the road. East Carrier. Probably more so those
[1:49:16] directly to the east of us. We'll say, you know
[1:49:19] what we're going to pull out again. Yeah. Want our
[1:49:23] money back. But this is very deliberately saying. It's not.
[1:49:36] Okay. That's my big issue. We get some of that.
[1:49:39] I want to ask my biggest thing, especially the 17,
[1:49:43] 18 years and say, yeah, you know what? We're pulling
[1:49:45] up now. It's like, yeah, you know, it does put
[1:49:49] work that way. Maybe after four or five, but. Sorry,
[1:49:55] how long is this agreement for? 20 years. Oh shoot.
[1:49:58] Yeah. We really got. Would it even be in our
[1:50:05] interest? Interest interest. I had something in there about the.
[1:50:10] Sorry. For you. Oh. Good. Okay. Any others I can
[1:50:18] take that. Okay. I'll tell you what Pulse. Conservative Number
[1:50:25] 9 and 12. Limited the number of years
[1:50:34] to five or six. BAC cram values. I think that's
[1:50:40] been compromised. I changed 12 and take out. Satisfication. And
[1:50:46] just that if we leave the board, there are not
[1:50:49] entitled to anything. That's what we need is how do
[1:50:51] you hear. No, thank you for the fourth. Time. That's
[1:50:56] right. But if we leave the board, they're not. Weird.
[1:51:10] Um, three. So I wasn't here when the original agreements
[1:51:14] or the decision was to move forward with the expansion
[1:51:18] centre. But was it not a four decision that that
[1:51:21] should be done? Tropically agreeing. Okay. So. If it was
[1:51:27] agreed by the port to take you the construction and
[1:51:32] necessarily fund it to the two and a three point,
[1:51:36] somewhat million dollars. How can we have a board member
[1:51:41] leave and ask them for their payments to be reimbursed
[1:51:46] and also that the relief of all future applications considering
[1:51:51] it's their joint city to you at construction. You can't
[1:51:55] take the construction back. Say it's done. That leaves the
[1:52:01] full bill potentially on towns. Oaks for the next 20
[1:52:06] years. And that's a three million doll alone. So we're
[1:52:10] talking about, I know it's an expression in interest on
[1:52:12] the other item that we were talking about with regards
[1:52:15] to. Municipal corporations. But any debt that we're taking on
[1:52:19] that also be left. And if we're doing internal borrowing,
[1:52:26] that's a form of debt. Uh, Decine dollars or somewhere
[1:52:31] that it would just a lot. Of unknowns that Municipality
[1:52:37] may not be the difference. But this one here is
[1:52:39] definitely known. It was definitely agreed to by the board
[1:52:42] members to enter into this. I don't see how it
[1:52:48] can be fair that they can aim request. To be
[1:52:52] reimbursed. And please themselves of any future. I mean. That's
[1:52:59] my. I agree with you. You're here. Because had that
[1:53:06] been identified in the onset. Than the town A of
[1:53:12] me. Different decision point forward. To put this completely on
[1:53:17] the towns with tax bill. That's a lot to ask
[1:53:21] of one municipality. And I don't know any business that
[1:53:27] would agree to. Expanding capacity for a customer. And then
[1:53:34] allow the customer to walk away two or three years
[1:53:37] later or whatever the time frame is saying they want
[1:53:39] their money back. For all the services that they've used.
[1:53:44] And also I think there's, I think there's got to
[1:53:47] be some sort of guarantees to someone. If I'm going
[1:53:49] to build something, then there'd be some guarantees that you're
[1:53:53] going to have a commitment for a term to actually
[1:53:57] use the facility. For just to see part. Of that
[1:54:04] paper. Just to respawn to treasure comments
[1:54:14] there, I agree, but I think also at that time,
[1:54:18] it could have been still sitting here at this point.
[1:54:20] Trying to negotiate agreement. And we still would have had
[1:54:23] nothing built. But I think that we decided at that
[1:54:25] point just too. Let's just get the duct tape, go
[1:54:29] through. And then do this afterwards. But in the midtime,
[1:54:32] it's no. So. I think we can have a result
[1:54:36] of it. But that decision. Yeah. This is a great
[1:54:44] deal for Amor Anthony's scary. Under great deal for us,
[1:54:47] but it's the best one we're going to get. And
[1:54:51] I think we have to acknowledge that. I don't like
[1:54:54] some of them at the end of the day though.
[1:54:56] I understand where the treasure is coming from, but if
[1:54:59] either one of the townships leaves, and which I think
[1:55:02] is possibility, what's going to happen is that their residents
[1:55:06] that use the facility will end up paying through the
[1:55:08] notes. As a way of covering this, right? Like that's
[1:55:11] how we're going to do it. The only risk in
[1:55:14] here for the town really is the town deciding that
[1:55:18] we don't want to be part of the board anymore.
[1:55:21] That's the only big financial risk that I see. Right.
[1:55:27] So after that, I see kids re scary and amarrhym.
[1:55:31] If you want to play hockey pain. Right? And then
[1:55:35] they can be pissed off. But not the house link
[1:55:40] kids. Just where are they going to go. For? Are
[1:55:42] they going to pay that much there too? Orangell has
[1:55:45] ridiculous out of pound rings. You gripe. That's the whole
[1:55:47] thing. So, so I don't see that. Like I don't
[1:55:51] see the other mutaties leaving as I have a risk.
[1:55:56] I see very upset residents from those municipalities when they
[1:56:00] get a bill from us. But that's not going to
[1:56:01] be our problem. That's going to be a brand to
[1:56:04] be scary. Um, so I think we signed this because
[1:56:09] or else it doesn't happen. Like I don't see, I
[1:56:13] don't see it. I don't see another deal. And I
[1:56:16] see and I see as men having to make paper.
[1:56:25] I would say that. Before we do, we kind of.
[1:56:30] Denote. Steve for me. It is contributional there because I
[1:56:33] agree with a balance. At least how this special legal,
[1:56:37] see what we can come up with. Um, and if
[1:56:40] at the end of the day, this is the best
[1:56:42] we get. We have that discussion. We can see it
[1:56:45] as. What. The opportunity. How. The decision is made. You
[1:56:51] guys lovely set it. So. Okay. So the deal that
[1:56:58] the deal is for us. Is if we stay as
[1:57:03] a member of the word and don't read, we don't
[1:57:05] know anybody anything. Right. They are shared. Yeah. We just
[1:57:09] make a payment after they. The implication is that it
[1:57:17] is written in here that if one of the leaves,
[1:57:20] the other one doesn't have to paint more, right? We
[1:57:22] have to pay more or find that money more. It's
[1:57:26] on grand family. It's time the mold. Of them. For
[1:57:31] the rest of them. Yes. If I want you. And
[1:57:36] that lets you mention, we get that from. Hydrogen. That's
[1:57:43] one. I think we can all agree that it's quite
[1:57:45] likely that within the next 20 years. As the disagreement
[1:57:49] is that there's something that's going to change. So we,
[1:57:52] we can't necessarily prepare the. Kind of hit plus. Look
[1:57:56] at the tax base. And, you know, an anticipation of
[1:57:59] what mayor, you know, what we know is going to
[1:58:00] happen. We can't be blew. More of them. So I
[1:58:04] think it's definitely worth safe. Something. In there, at least
[1:58:07] to the tune of the amount of whatever it was.
[1:58:10] Um, it would also then discard some belief. But. What
[1:58:17] do you do when they don't agree to it? Right.
[1:58:18] Like that's anxious. It's taken a year and a half
[1:58:21] to get to this. That's what we built at first.
[1:58:26] And we have to make a payment. Like. Anything to
[1:58:34] pay, I believe they've been billed for everything up to
[1:58:37] the end of the grant. Nothing since then towards the
[1:58:41] diventure. Not my neighbour.
[1:58:53] Sorry. James, you're going to make some rep. I'm. Curious
[1:58:58] how I see perpynext. I guess the deception talked about
[1:59:05] previously. What was it in the community support me going
[1:59:09] to, well, just build it and figure it out later.
[1:59:12] And we're going to do a new agreement or what
[1:59:13] was the. Not quite, but it was sort of like
[1:59:20] when we were going to build a day, everybody seemed
[1:59:22] to be, yeah, okay. Something happened. To
[1:59:32] one of the, one of our partners. Nothing that we
[1:59:37] did to, but somebody else didn't make a little bit
[1:59:40] of. Sidetracked. I fell in that bit. For the ultra
[1:59:47] suspicious of everybody. And when they presented for this discussion.
[1:59:54] So I don't think that there shouldn't be zero concern
[1:59:58] then to hold them accountable, the decision that was made.
[2:00:00] Because they were a part of it. And they can't
[2:00:02] turn around and say, Oh, well, I can't do anything
[2:00:06] to decisions. Okay. And again, I think. Even I'm going
[2:00:10] to go very well. And I don't see any issue
[2:00:12] or something. And then I have to protect us. Cause
[2:00:14] again, what is the alternative they leave? Be nothing else.
[2:00:17] And then we're stuck holding today. It seems to be.
[2:00:22] Out there. Yeah. I think ideally they won't leave. And
[2:00:28] continue to. But they're also nothing wrong. With having such
[2:00:30] a state price. Because again, supposed for 20 years, unless
[2:00:33] you want to change the time frame of how long
[2:00:35] this runs for. Make sure, uh. Okay. I don't know
[2:00:40] how to. Get back. To this thing. I don't want
[2:00:43] to. Complicate this too much. If it's been so, so
[2:00:46] difficult to get this far. But including something else seems
[2:00:50] like the lower. Apps, I guess, right here. Uh, we
[2:00:57] can just up on point of clarification. When I think
[2:01:00] it's a nine second part of the agreement or my
[2:01:05] report. I don't know. I'm just wondering if there's any
[2:01:08] more in the agrair. Grand Valley is required to reimburse
[2:01:12] the camera and East Aerofax for the respective contributions. Yeah.
[2:01:16] That means even the contributions towards matching the grand place
[2:01:21] from, no, it's just on the debt, right? That each
[2:01:24] have contributed under this. Three. Times. So by signings before,
[2:01:32] so this is the worst. Thing. If you're a success
[2:01:35] of cancels, they want to shut down the board than
[2:01:40] grand valley. We'll have to reimburse them. And that would
[2:01:45] be made noble to cancel, but the Council at the
[2:01:47] time. Okay. So can't reverse. You have a lot of
[2:01:52] money. Especially you have to do it after 17, 18.
[2:01:59] Years. Yeah. But wait till the last minute. Yeah. I
[2:02:03] don't do. That. Let's just need to be
[2:02:13] rewritten as to quarter as. Though. So should this happen
[2:02:17] within X number of years. That the following show in
[2:02:21] place. So I can say we would get back up
[2:02:25] to five years. Yeah. Three years to get back to
[2:02:28] your 17 years. They only get five years back. That
[2:02:33] might be, that's something I thought about. I told him,
[2:02:36] I don't know. They would go for that. But that's.
[2:02:40] Not a little quirk negotiation. What could happen given that
[2:02:46] October 26. We have a new election. There may be
[2:02:48] a new council in either one of these municipalities. This
[2:02:53] agreement could become before them. And then they could just
[2:02:56] say, look, we want to leave. Right? From what I
[2:02:58] understand, there have been no payments made so far. Because
[2:03:01] the first team is doing November. So nothing would be
[2:03:05] nothing. But yet is this Council Continuous office four years.
[2:03:09] And at the end of that term of Council, you
[2:03:10] could have to pay that four years ago. So just
[2:03:13] considering rewriting those paragraphs to put in some timelines.
[2:03:24] I want to spend all your work. Like again, great
[2:03:27] ideas. How many years of payments does the kind of
[2:03:30] brand value on the main, which I was getting reimbursed?
[2:03:33] That's what we're, because if we negotiate, it's all on
[2:03:37] us. And we will never get those back for damn
[2:03:40] sure. Correct. Right. They won't say, Oh yeah, we'll, we'll
[2:03:45] make up. Like right into your disagreement or nothing. Right.
[2:03:48] Like I think we have to look at it that
[2:03:50] way. And I get trying to make it better and
[2:03:52] clear. But we all know who we're dealing with. Right.
[2:03:56] We have been dealing with these people for the last
[2:03:58] four years. I know exactly what's going to, if we
[2:04:02] don't sign this, nothing happens this term. And I suspect
[2:04:07] nothing ever happens. They just leave. And then we've got
[2:04:10] a hundred percent of it and then we're fighting like
[2:04:12] out. Again, the only risk I see here is the
[2:04:18] kind of grain valley pulling out the board. And if
[2:04:21] we get 50 years out of the road, we can
[2:04:23] grit our teaks for another five. Right? I get it.
[2:04:33] I don't like this. I like this screaming either. I
[2:04:36] really don't. All right. It's best we're going to do.
[2:04:41] And the problem is yeah, we're suck because this is
[2:04:44] the last chance we have to do with your sign
[2:04:47] it or we kiss a goodbye. If there's no negotiating
[2:04:51] anymore, not this year. That's just real. Oh.
[2:05:01] I just go stand. I want people later intimi. On
[2:05:04] the risk of that. If that's what they want to
[2:05:05] do, you can, the other. I'm using. We can get
[2:05:07] rei. That's their. Cut too. I mean, the decision. The
[2:05:12] responsible. But already.
[2:05:24] For signing this end over. It'd be sort of one
[2:05:28] plug your nose and do it. But like I said,
[2:05:31] I think clarification needs to be a number seven or
[2:05:34] the anything. Um, long is we don't have to pay
[2:05:38] them back. If they decided to leave, then other than
[2:05:47] the fact that we just carry out with. Yeah, as
[2:05:53] long as we don't have to pay them back. Cause
[2:06:00] I just need traction. The recommendation was to sign it
[2:06:04] as is. Not peace and all means a bit different
[2:06:08] option of counts.
[2:06:24] There's an 0. 7 is going to be an issue.
[2:06:26] That somewhere around the line that we get a naming
[2:06:28] rate. And they say, well, I'll come alone is still
[2:06:31] whatever it is out for so many years that should
[2:06:33] have been paid to that. That's why it's subtle model.
[2:06:44] They'll set them off another conspiracy. Oh, not only. Screw
[2:06:50] them again. This isn't, I don't think it's in this
[2:06:54] one. I think so another one. They said that, you
[2:06:59] know, that doesn't come. Then the building should go to
[2:07:03] the challenge. Or not to the attachment to the County.
[2:07:06] That's not in this one. There is a thing in
[2:07:09] here. There's something, but if the board, it's understood that
[2:07:13] if something else weird happens or if it goes to
[2:07:16] the county as a part of a county upload, then
[2:07:20] we then negotiate. It doesn't go into that, like you
[2:07:26] said. I guess why, why would. Something like that.
[2:07:36] Well, see the province forces of amalgamation. Well, that would
[2:07:40] be like, yeah, it's different. Right. And then that's what,
[2:07:43] that's what that points kind of trying to. Take your
[2:07:46] weight. Sometimes maybe I've read it like instead of having
[2:07:50] grand alley get something. We'd rather have it uploaded to
[2:07:52] the county. Okay. Well. We can do something.
[2:08:07] There's a motion that could be voted on and then
[2:08:09] something else. Or great something different. You're right. I'm done.
[2:08:19] I'm not reading anything on to this motion. I'm just
[2:08:21] putting on who's going to, no, I won't even do
[2:08:23] that. You put all moving. Okay. That's fine. There's not
[2:08:29] a secondary. You just don't feel bad. Zoros has to
[2:08:36] go across the room because Lauren's not. Goodness man of
[2:08:41] pet. Oh, don't worry. I've always got back up. James
[2:08:50] Dent, you tired to get up. No, I'll get it.
[2:09:13] Councillor John. You resolve the Councillor sees the report Community
[2:09:19] Centre financing for execution. The further that Council approves the
[2:09:25] insurer municipal agreement for the expansion and rehabilitation of the
[2:09:30] manual industry community centre as amended. By the townships of
[2:09:34] Amreth, he's scared. And as presented with the report authorizing
[2:09:39] the mayor and clerk to sign the Bylaw and directs
[2:09:43] F to prepare and present the necessary agreement by law
[2:09:48] for passing. Any questions on the motion to be. Recorded.
[2:09:55] What. Can I have a question? Good question of the.
[2:10:01] CAO. Um. So if we were going to, if I.
[2:10:13] Only ask for clarification of a percent. Another. One where
[2:10:20] we have the. Small enough modification at a VAL clarification
[2:10:29] in the affirmative. That you can still sign it. Same
[2:10:33] or substantially the same. Yeah. And that's the only thing
[2:10:36] you're going to be allowed to do. 10 days. Now.
[2:10:39] And I'm not having a special meeting at the top,
[2:10:41] but you can call whatever BT you want to show
[2:10:44] up. To just have one of this. Thanks. Like with
[2:10:50] that, because I don't mind getting that. But I, right,
[2:10:53] like I get where people are coming from. But at
[2:10:57] the end of the day, it's disagreement or not. Right.
[2:11:00] If we want some clarification around the time, but we're
[2:11:02] not, like go renegotiating is not an option. It's basically
[2:11:10] trying for a brand new agreement next term. That's it.
[2:11:17] Then I would move to Amendment Duck. But yeah, to
[2:11:24] try to come up with a new agreement. This is
[2:11:27] the best we're going to, especially we're going to do.
[2:11:30] Here. Possible. I think they're going to get worse from
[2:11:35] here. And the only, and as we were saying, the
[2:11:41] worst thing that happened. Is if, well, they're going to
[2:11:45] jump out. Quite. Blank. At some point, we don't open
[2:11:50] any money out of. Time. Or do. That's. Going to.
[2:11:58] Be, if they call, if they're out of it. And
[2:12:02] we trust. Yeah. We would be over one. We can
[2:12:05] collect that money in different way. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This
[2:12:10] is good. With the, uh, with the higher ice time.
[2:12:14] For just being coverage. Whether you can figure who's in
[2:12:19] that return. That's this and the other book called. The
[2:12:22] 90 programming that. People would have to register. Like for
[2:12:26] every program, they have to give their assets. They're massive
[2:12:30] surcharge for it. It's not as simple as just like
[2:12:31] when you register your kids for hockey. And the other
[2:12:34] ways that would have to be verified. They would be
[2:12:37] a huge trust that they would have to pay all.
[2:12:39] And then also now cost complicated for the. Telegram value.
[2:12:43] Oh, no, no. It would be no, but we have
[2:12:46] to. Do our intelligence. From really. Every little thing. In
[2:12:50] regards. But sorry regarding that community centre. Where are you
[2:12:55] going from? Are you going to get just. One? It
[2:12:58] would be a nightmare. It's not, that's nothing new. It's
[2:13:03] municipalities everywhere. Let's continue. So yeah, so that's my question
[2:13:11] there. If we rewrote a new resolution and reflecting the
[2:13:18] hand, I'm asking the question now, could we do it.
[2:13:22] Yes. Yes. And you could still sign it. We could
[2:13:26] still sign it either with, with, um, rewarding of question
[2:13:30] seven to clarify that is not a longer. And let
[2:13:34] me, any rights, Honnie could go against the venture payments.
[2:13:39] Um, I don't think that would be material enough to.
[2:13:46] Eight convince them not to sign it or be, um,
[2:13:49] change the rest of the nut that we have to
[2:13:52] bring them back to. Kent. You're saying either sign this
[2:13:57] is that we had clarification on numbers. I'm just trying
[2:14:02] to figure out how bad. I make a function commanded
[2:14:10] to kind of. Further that. Yes, I'll go ahead on
[2:14:19] how about, um, receive the report. And where did the
[2:14:23] Council Cruise the Internet Juvencible agreement for the expansion and
[2:14:26] rehabilitation in principle? Cause you're approving it in principle. As
[2:14:33] a mentioned by the conscious timer. And then include and
[2:14:36] further that South be directed to see clarification with respect
[2:14:39] to paragraph seven. And then what we can do and
[2:14:44] that. Pass the bylaw itself once you receive that notification
[2:14:50] at the September 8. Because you're looking for direction that
[2:14:57] you're looking for clarification. That could come forward as hell.
[2:15:02] And that you'd be authorized projected by all the passing.
[2:15:07] And. Execution of the next. Class. Because Brady, because this
[2:15:16] would be fine to sign if we're under restricted acts
[2:15:20] after the 21st. That would be a question of the
[2:15:23] treasure as to whether are these payments in our. Yes
[2:15:28] payments are our already in our budget. Yes. So. I'm
[2:15:35] really, you're just looking for, you are approaching the agreement
[2:15:38] in principle with just that clarification with respective paragraph setting.
[2:15:49] Ad. To a. Special. Whatever we need to do, make
[2:15:57] this right. So what is
[2:16:06] your, just before. I get to, what is your main
[2:16:11] concern? Yeah. Well, I mean, again, moving past number seven
[2:16:15] there with. Number. Nine or 10 we were discussing. Here.
[2:16:26] About. The mind road or whatever. I think honestly the
[2:16:29] biggest concern, I'll just get back to it as the
[2:16:32] decision was made for, again, the project and whatnot. So
[2:16:35] I don't think they should be able to leave. Before
[2:16:38] all the money's are collected. I would be happy if
[2:16:41] there was clause in there so they shoot to leave.
[2:16:43] I mean, they're still responsible for set money. I like
[2:16:46] input as well. Um, because again, year two from year
[2:16:49] 10 year 17 will also be very different. Should the
[2:16:56] town of Grand Valley choose to, I'm okay with that
[2:17:01] one. Cause again, it's, it's likely not going to have
[2:17:03] going to happen. We have to look at what's reality
[2:17:06] here. And it's like, do one of them is going
[2:17:07] to leave. Uh, we have an opportunity now. To try
[2:17:11] to make this a little bit more in our favor.
[2:17:13] Um, the discussion was that everyone was on board regardless
[2:17:16] of someone got the feelings hurt. And you know, we
[2:17:20] feel a certain way. I don't think that the Counter
[2:17:22] Grand Valley should be responsible to make the shortfall. That's
[2:17:27] not fair for us. I understand yet we can make
[2:17:29] up some monies probably over the next 25 years without
[2:17:33] a town ratings, but it's going to take a heck
[2:17:35] of a long time. Um. And then, I mean, there's
[2:17:38] a lot that goes into place as well for what
[2:17:42] we have to ensure that we're making. We have a
[2:17:45] town who is not. I don't know. I'd be comfortable
[2:17:49] with making the minor changes as we're discussing. But again,
[2:17:52] we think that the amount that's old, they got to
[2:17:55] be responsible for it. Um. They will still be responsible
[2:18:00] for if they continue to be members of the board.
[2:18:03] Yeah. My concern though is that the AIs commitment and
[2:18:06] then they decide what even two years. And now they
[2:18:09] just, you guys figured it out. Yeah. Right. That's not
[2:18:14] fair. The decision was made collectively. Between the three venous
[2:18:17] of penalties. To go ahead with this. We went ahead
[2:18:20] with it. It's now done. And like Steven said, you
[2:18:23] can't take it back. Right. And this is what I
[2:18:25] was asking about how the conversation went in there. Obviously
[2:18:28] people were part of it. Right. I don't think that
[2:18:31] they should have that opportunity. That's not fair. Um, and
[2:18:34] no amount of outdown fees are going to make up
[2:18:37] for the amount of available. It's going to be cool.
[2:18:41] But again looking at the prospective out of town fees
[2:18:44] for the residents incredibly high. Do you think that would
[2:18:48] maybe entitlement stay? Well, so this would also be something
[2:18:51] that we would have to include. Right. Like this would
[2:18:53] be part of the conversation. If we're that concerned that
[2:18:56] they're going to just walk away, we got to let
[2:18:58] them know what then they're facing. I don't want to
[2:19:00] go to that extent because then it's just going to
[2:19:02] create a disaster. Right. Like I don't want to do
[2:19:05] that. I just want to say look. And then the
[2:19:08] nicest legal way possible. They owe this money. So I'm
[2:19:15] through you, Mr. Maris. One thing that I'm looking at
[2:19:17] the actual agreement, Idon 10, thus specifically talk about the
[2:19:22] board's agreement. Uh, under 8 B being responsible for debt.
[2:19:28] So I guess in their existing agreement that dead, they
[2:19:33] are responsible for debt for the future. It's specifically saying
[2:19:36] it's excluded. Yeah. That's all they want. Right. And so
[2:19:40] it's in their regular board agreement, but now they're for
[2:19:43] this particular item. They're saying they want it to not
[2:19:46] be applicable. But this gives you like, should one party
[2:19:50] leave again? Only grant valleys goes up. And then the
[2:19:53] other one's just going to go, okay, we're going to.
[2:19:56] Is that in the existing agreement that we have like
[2:19:58] with all of our courts at the debt and so
[2:20:01] many committee centres? Yes. I don't remember. What the other.
[2:20:05] I think I remember tried on having someone. Think was
[2:20:11] again, the discussion about the amount of members. I'd be
[2:20:13] okay leading that as well. Um. It is what it
[2:20:17] is. But again, yeah, wherever it. Is.
[2:20:27] The composition. The grand value is scheduled to purple to
[2:20:36] a certain, if we may be in eight percentage. Uh,
[2:20:42] east gear fractal contract. And less people than to be
[2:20:48] an amateur. Ratio is now
[2:20:58] 60, 25, 15. So we're putting the. Lighting chair.
[2:21:15] So my dozens, we cannot, cool. This, something has to
[2:21:18] be done with this resolution. So. It was asked to
[2:21:24] be a reported, it was asked if we want to
[2:21:26] do a quote - unquote. I don't know that I
[2:21:27] was directed to do it as a, because we did
[2:21:30] amend it. To reflect the section seven. Minu. Corrections. There,
[2:21:39] but it's not going. To be. A journey. We do
[2:21:44] have money. There you go. Prais. There is a.
[2:21:57] Motion before us. Do we want to record this. You
[2:22:04] want to bring it to them? Yeah. No, we know
[2:22:07] right now. Motion group by definite Council John. We resolve
[2:22:13] the Council receives the report commander, Senate Financing Agreement for
[2:22:16] Execution. The further that grandioly approves the principle, the intervenes
[2:22:22] of agreement for the expansion and rehabilitation. Going to the
[2:22:26] audit community centre as amended by the townships of Cameron
[2:22:30] and Gary. Deer practice. As presented and with this report.
[2:22:38] Uh, further that this Council directs CAO to have section
[2:22:45] seven. Use of additional monies towards future, diventure payments
[2:22:55] as these monies would not decrease the amount to. Anybody
[2:23:02] understand the motion. Colossus. For the reason that it directed
[2:23:08] to. Sign it. Well, or. Ask questions, right?
[2:23:20] That's what I want to say. Yeah. That's what I
[2:23:22] want to clarify. That's where we're actually building all of
[2:23:25] your. Voting on here is that we would get that.
[2:23:28] I would bring it back to this tempera meeting for
[2:23:29] the By - B - Law to be passed. Okay,
[2:23:31] that's what we're doing. We're not going to actually signing
[2:23:33] it. I would include the other things. We're defering it.
[2:23:38] And we're going to let's defer it. Things you play
[2:23:42] to have like the composition of the board? I said,
[2:23:45] I would, I'm, I'm willing to put that aside to
[2:23:48] the biggest thing that is just world money. They agree
[2:23:51] to it. Like we've got to hold them accountable. I've
[2:23:54] already established that they've made this in their best interest.
[2:23:57] We cannot continue to operate like this. To just send
[2:24:01] their best interests. We have no other choice. We have
[2:24:03] to pivot as someone. We have to protect. How their
[2:24:08] value and the trust. Because we know that they're going
[2:24:10] to lead at some point. Right. So we need to
[2:24:14] establish something that Texas. I think as the jury is
[2:24:23] pointed out. This agreement goes. By the weeks. Of Jerusalem.
[2:24:30] How. Do we go forward. To that. Well, we're all
[2:24:35] in agreement that it's probably going to happen. In some
[2:24:38] way, shape or form. And that's why, and that likes
[2:24:40] comments regard some other ways we can do this as
[2:24:44] well. That would also protect us for years limiting. Company
[2:24:48] oak and what have you. I need to contribution. Yeah.
[2:24:54] Sorry, Donna. I'll let you, because I don't want to
[2:24:56] para. Incorrectly. I have to. Say. No, that's okay. Um,
[2:25:04] is that if the paragraph wants to be reworded that,
[2:25:08] um. Should one of the board members wish to withdraw.
[2:25:13] Would only be responsible for paying X number of years
[2:25:16] back. It wouldn't be so safer instance. You wouldn't, you
[2:25:20] wouldn't in a 15 years, let's say 10 years more
[2:25:23] reasonable amount in a 20 year halfway through. You wouldn't
[2:25:26] want grand value out to pay back 10 years worth
[2:25:30] of installment payments, right? I mean, you are absolutely correct.
[2:25:35] This is very advantageous to a town that is growing,
[2:25:40] that has projections to grow as well. You could be
[2:25:43] using this as, okay, in 10 years, emerent may want
[2:25:46] to build their own community centre, knowing that they, if
[2:25:49] they leave the board, they're going to get this X
[2:25:51] number of dollars from Grand Valley. They can use that
[2:25:54] money to put towards the cost of erecting this facility.
[2:25:59] So knowing, okay, you exit, you're only going to get
[2:26:04] X number of years back. You guys have to dispay.
[2:26:12] Yeah. We're basically going to work almost giving reassurance that
[2:26:14] we're not going to be the monster. Pull 12 on
[2:26:16] the board. But we don't do that. But this is,
[2:26:19] you know, so, and again, like we need to do
[2:26:23] more. I think. Donna's comments and I'm both very good.
[2:26:28] Now, if you guys all disagree with me, I mean,
[2:26:30] I'm not owed in any way. I can go ahead
[2:26:32] and just want to, what you're asking is more fundamentally
[2:26:36] changing the agreement where it's just changing section seven is
[2:26:39] just warming. Up. So passing this would just be working,
[2:26:45] clarified. No, no real. Anything back to amarends here. Practice
[2:26:50] other than they come to pass a bylaw to have
[2:26:53] passed the amended would not. But I said, we still
[2:26:57] don't have to make it in something else to reflect
[2:26:59] what we're discussing here and go on it. And correct?
[2:27:03] Yes. So yeah, we don't want to be saddled by
[2:27:10] failing for 10 years. We're going to 10 years. If
[2:27:13] they leave, if they say, Hey, we're at, we don't
[2:27:15] owe their money. They just won't pay us rest of
[2:27:18] their own car. I think that they should. Yeah. Well.
[2:27:23] It's in this world. I'm asking. I mean, like, you
[2:27:26] know, I get to see what's keeping it up here.
[2:27:28] But I mean, explain it quite clear. Deals a deal
[2:27:33] in their homes. And Donna brought up another very valuable
[2:27:38] point. As she was reiterating for previous comment there. But
[2:27:45] so we wrote in, if we. Passed as is because
[2:27:52] if you're wanting to change those rings, then you're not
[2:27:54] approving. This. There hasn't created in terms of that whole
[2:28:01] thing was a quick. So since this has been after
[2:28:04] this motion needs to be passed or slight vote at
[2:28:08] all. It needs to be there for wild past. You
[2:28:11] don't have to, you can vote against it in order
[2:28:13] to defeat the motion. And then you do something else.
[2:28:17] Okay. So. Is this a recording thing or do I
[2:28:20] just say elevate. Counsel. All right. So this is just
[2:28:29] to amend section seven just to clarify. That's the only
[2:28:32] thing we're talking about. Here. Councillor Dirt. Councillor Johnker. Yes.
[2:28:40] Uh, Councillor Platinum is absent. Detapy Marench. Project. Yes. Mayor
[2:28:49] Solomon? Yes. Okay. If you define the number, then we
[2:28:56] can recess the link to Jesus. Also, I think it
[2:29:00] looks like it carried. It did carry. And again. To
[2:29:06] clarify, though, this is now just reflecting number seven. This
[2:29:09] is not good direction to sign the increasement even with
[2:29:12] that or it does. No, it's coming back toward B8.
[2:29:17] You've said that you agree with everything else in principle.
[2:29:19] Right. I did. Well, the vote Democracy decided to say.
[2:29:24] I just want to clarify. There will be no one
[2:29:26] changed. So I'd say well. All right. Democracy.
[2:29:38] You could make a function of your re - election.
[2:29:41] Good morning. That's why she's here. We could bring that
[2:29:47] forward. There is that needs to do that. Can you
[2:29:50] do it? You're not just going to walk out the
[2:29:52] door. Can we wait five more minutes. There was, uh,
[2:29:57] I believe there's, remember the Odyssey regret. Possibly already planning
[2:30:01] the planners. No Public Works. All three one. It's okay.
[2:30:08] To pull that event on. So you know that. Okay.
[2:30:16] So you are still on. Okay. So we're going to
[2:30:19] move ahead to 1231. Which is a. Fun mat order.
[2:30:28] It's on maths, but we wrote it, I wrote it.
[2:30:31] We wrote it together. Okay. So if the questions, I
[2:30:35] can answer. All right, well, it's a request from, uh,
[2:30:42] for parking area off chemistry. Mark, did you want to
[2:30:47] read it? Just quickly, um, that, uh, we went out.
[2:30:52] We looked at first, I got, yeah, this shouldn't be
[2:30:54] an issue. But then when I came back and I
[2:30:57] started reviewing as a report says. The town can do
[2:31:02] anything. They want to do any heart except in environment,
[2:31:06] which action plans. So an environment protection lands, which these
[2:31:10] property is cell, uh, does not permit a parking space
[2:31:15] or a parking garage or a parking lot. We have
[2:31:18] a thing is that both of those properties, so the
[2:31:21] cells property, neither of these two properties on the, I'm
[2:31:25] a location plan. Have we missed those numbers, but rule
[2:31:28] number three, four, nine, 600, we own. And then went
[2:31:32] to the north, three, four, nine, 700 is owned by
[2:31:35] the conservation authority. I believe that the parquet or the
[2:31:39] feature is in artwork. It's right to the corporate to
[2:31:43] triangle. So, um, I reached out to the conservation authority.
[2:31:48] And they said that there has to be some, it's
[2:31:50] not just simply doing permit. They would need some other
[2:31:52] reports. So basically we would need to reselling the tab
[2:31:56] initiated resulting to allow out to parking CO. And, um.
[2:32:02] We would have to apply to the conservation authority. For
[2:32:06] her permit. Don't know what anyone else is going to
[2:32:09] say in particular, the county, because they may, they someplic
[2:32:12] because it's a garment's protection. They don't know. Um, we've
[2:32:15] given the costs. So basically looking at direction from Council
[2:32:22] as to how you want staff to perceive. With this
[2:32:25] project. On the face of it, like the planner said
[2:32:34] at the beginning, it looked like B's a simple review,
[2:32:37] but it seems to be a lot more convoluted because
[2:32:40] it is EP. It is on the floodplain. Um, you're
[2:32:43] looking at 7, 000 dollars just for, uh. Working filled
[2:32:46] here. It's only my line, then 2500 TCA department, GRCA
[2:32:56] of permit, 4, 500 dollars. And that's not actual, but
[2:32:59] you're already at 7, 000 dollars. And you haven't even
[2:33:02] done anything yet. So much as I appreciate. Like where
[2:33:10] it was going. And if it wasn't just a matter
[2:33:12] of putting in a Colbert and putting some dumper too
[2:33:16] on it, but this is getting a lot more. Uh,
[2:33:19] complicated. Then I don't think that was even Derman initial
[2:33:24] intention either. So at this point I would say. Don't.
[2:33:32] Want to, too, but. For that kind of money for
[2:33:36] a simple parking pat. There's. How big as the particle.
[2:33:45] The hit two or driveway with two cars. Mason is
[2:33:50] part pulling there so the array and club can get
[2:33:52] in there or to town or. I say we do
[2:33:55] it. So you're not running into the G platform. Well,
[2:34:04] I mean with respect to cardinal club, I mean, we
[2:34:06] appreciate what they do. They don't do anyone else. Or
[2:34:09] it becomes a town thing to do. Right. Four man
[2:34:13] hours. You only have to hire someone else. You know,
[2:34:16] they only ask us for very much so with respect
[2:34:18] to them.
[2:34:31] This is what we're supposed to be plenty, funny, seven
[2:34:35] project and budget discussion. I think this is great information.
[2:34:39] That's our close. That's what I wrote down. I think.
[2:34:45] It worked. And the next council will be informatizated. Yeah.
[2:34:52] Previously, we saved me away. We're feeling, but I imagine
[2:34:58] the next budget's going to be where the Starfast is,
[2:35:00] but it was. Your mouches away. I just received it.
[2:35:06] Did receive it and just keep having these conversations. You
[2:35:10] have to sign instead. No, I'll be able to change.
[2:35:14] I would just do it. So I will. Push it
[2:35:18] off. 27. That's what we said we were doing. I
[2:35:23] think you were here for that. Thank you. Weren't. So
[2:35:29] they're basically, which doesn't mean the budget involved by answer,
[2:35:35] they believe. And on your park. Okay. And you have
[2:35:40] a direction at that point in time that we would
[2:35:42] do if this did go forward, it would happen, 20,
[2:35:46] 27 for. That. All right. That's what you requested. Yeah.
[2:35:53] Okay. John Carpell Council Staff Mammon Grand Valley Garden Corpo
[2:35:59] Quest for parking area off Chemistry. And further that discussion
[2:36:04] continue during the 27 budget process. Any question. It's all
[2:36:09] in favor.
[2:36:21] Of Stat 1 o'clock or return at 1 o'clock. Sure.
[3:11:00] Details most of the things are on other parts of
[3:11:02] the agenda. I don't think I have anything in dishwashing
[3:11:08] to it other than the application for. The. Building that
[3:11:15] Concession G3 Park is. Ready. And sent to the trailer
[3:11:22] to the County and had a conversation with Becky Willed.
[3:11:25] She said, yeah, I'm like, take a look at what
[3:11:27] he said. If the questions or if anything I forgot
[3:11:31] to update on, please let me know after you discuss.
[3:11:37] Council. Discus. 3. Do you still
[3:11:46] sit on that for me? Matt and James are. Okay,
[3:11:50] so they're looking after that and they're just pressing. Okay.
[3:11:55] Wait, that one. S not. I think daughter you sent
[3:11:57] the resolution to the chair of the committee, but I
[3:12:00] don't think it's a bit. So both resolutions, one with
[3:12:03] respect to the donation that was passed out to the
[3:12:06] BIA and the other one about change. Very. Good. We'll
[3:12:10] be discussing. We haven't discussed that, right? Yeah. 10 seconds
[3:12:17] for you, Mr. Merrick. Cold shops are allowed to Council.
[3:12:22] Colt shops. Anything had those pop shots? Whatever they take,
[3:12:28] they get through. They're like that size. They're like six
[3:12:32] percent alcohol. Ooh, they're great. They have all boy pull
[3:12:37] shots now. And by the way, the Dhanna, I have
[3:12:46] to give you props up. These pops are more affordable
[3:12:51] than buying a small pop. You get that much for
[3:12:56] less than what you pay for a small puck. So.
[3:13:01] They're not speeding personally unhealthy. As you stress this page.
[3:13:11] All right. Oh, good. Next, oh, I didn't know if
[3:13:13] any questions were anything else. If not, that's what I
[3:13:16] was good. Okay. So just to receive that right. There.
[3:13:23] By filming by one. Here is all the Council receives
[3:13:27] the report CEO progress update for information birth. Colin Baer.
[3:13:38] So I'm next on my list, Director of Finance. Hey,
[3:13:42] Mr. Mayor. Before you Council, I have, um, my regular
[3:13:47] update. Not much has happened since our laxa meeting, he
[3:13:52] was on the 21st of July. However. I'm pleased to
[3:13:58] announce that we've had a few more individuals that were
[3:14:03] registered with taxistics on their properties. We have, um. A.
[3:14:11] So we had eight properties. We are down to now
[3:14:17] five properties. Three of them paid. Their arrears. So when
[3:14:24] we look compared to, we're looking at a decrease of
[3:14:30] approximately, and it was difficult to kind of put this
[3:14:34] in words, but the last report indicated that we had
[3:14:38] approximately tax of rear certificate registered.
[3:14:50] And now we have 85. However, since the previous report,
[3:14:55] all properties that have been registered. Uh, which were at
[3:15:01] the process where we might have been moving forward into
[3:15:04] tax sale proceedings, those have all been paid off. These
[3:15:09] are the results of the newest batch or, like I
[3:15:12] said, eight properties that are registered this year. So we're
[3:15:15] down to nell just having five properties. And, uh, the
[3:15:20] talks of more properties, big impayments. And this week. Property
[3:15:25] taxes, our rears have hung down. We're now down to
[3:15:29] about 933, 000 dollars. Versus where we were at, or
[3:15:35] sorry, we're at 858, 000 where we were at 933.
[3:15:39] Prior to that 1. 5 hours. So that progressively does
[3:15:43] decrease because we haven't had an additional installment come due.
[3:15:48] However, in my next report, the August 12th installment, uh,
[3:15:53] for any payments that have not been made for that
[3:15:55] installment roll, uh, comprise our makeup, some of our rears
[3:16:00] tolls. Also the accounts receivable for the town. I provided
[3:16:06] the update. On those. As a result of Council. Di
[3:16:14] and Resolution with regard to write off. He called that
[3:16:18] park accounts receivable is no longer included on our strength
[3:16:24] of goll's listing. It has been written off. And we
[3:16:29] have, um, we continue to monitor our accounts to see
[3:16:32] the rules. So the items that are in the current
[3:16:35] column. Just represent our data days. We do have the
[3:16:41] items related to Lambron slash Sam Municipal and Caldreme, which
[3:16:50] we will be moving off the less than tagging it
[3:16:54] to property taxes so that we can recover those from
[3:16:58] a municipal tile perspective. It'll be over a five year
[3:17:00] period beginning next year. And for the Call Drain, it'll
[3:17:04] be a 10 year period. Beginning next year as well.
[3:17:10] And the last item just identifies any payments in the
[3:17:15] months of July. Sorry, June at World for 15, 000
[3:17:20] dollars. We've also attached the budget variants reports. It helps
[3:17:28] payable listing. For the town. There is no accounts payable
[3:17:31] listing for the community centre. As there have not been
[3:17:35] any meetings since their last in July. And there's the
[3:17:41] procurement report that's been attached. So if the questions from
[3:17:44] Council, I'd be happy to answer. Was the procurement report.
[3:17:57] We budgeted 370, 000 dollars. There's a tether price of
[3:18:01] 83. Which on the face of it is create other
[3:18:07] than where did we go so offer? What is there
[3:18:13] such a large. Discrepancy. Between the budget. And the tender
[3:18:17] price. What that would be a big question? I asked
[3:18:21] Matt next month. As I don't know the exact specifics,
[3:18:26] but the original budget for the project included a certain
[3:18:31] number of tasks to be done a certain way. They
[3:18:34] sense that when they actually went out to tender and
[3:18:37] when I went to look at the bridge to write
[3:18:38] the tender, they were like, wait a minute. We could
[3:18:41] do it this differently. How old defer. Is that great?
[3:18:49] As long as I compare. Because I'll probably forget about
[3:18:51] it. The same work, just different way or less. Cost.
[3:19:00] Like not that I'm complaining about. I just concerned that.
[3:19:06] It's not going to get out the property. That's certainly
[3:19:08] only true. Well, Bible mentioned it. Then you get mad.
[3:19:12] I said, bring the Details. Next week. I think that's
[3:19:16] only. Fair. So. The additional funds that were. Raised out
[3:19:24] for the original estimated, what is the plan. I would
[3:19:32] go into budget. And if the surplus at the end
[3:19:35] of the year. Still ploughing, we have to have something
[3:19:39] though. Otherwise now we're going to. Extra, what, 300, 000.
[3:19:42] Doll or whatever? We'll see if I can hear how
[3:19:44] it seems. Okay. So notice what I was going to
[3:19:47] say through you, Mr. Marcus. The amount that's identified here
[3:19:50] is just the construction cost. So there is engineering costs
[3:19:53] that are associated with from our engineering consultants. So it's
[3:19:58] not just that 84, 000 or something. I just, yeah,
[3:20:03] I just think we should have some sort of direction.
[3:20:08] Though. Because you have been just supposed to do it
[3:20:09] with your driver's going on by saying.
[3:20:22] By the way, in second legends. You resolve Council receives
[3:20:31] the report treasures update for the mission purposes.
[3:20:50] Um, it is report. To go. We're going to. Get
[3:20:57] there. Okay. I thought we were, I wasn't sure because
[3:20:59] I know what Matt here. We were just going to
[3:21:01] kind of like reports. Everyone. Speaking of that Director Public
[3:21:07] Works. Fields? I feel that we already did the first
[3:21:11] one. So this other one left is the update. Any
[3:21:15] questions I can answer. Or if the answer for you.
[3:21:24] The Bridge 5 rehab. I'm assuming we don't have a
[3:21:29] Start date yet. And so I'm assuming it's going to
[3:21:34] leak into the school year. And are we who's responsibility?
[3:21:39] Is it, is the bridge will be close, I'm assuming
[3:21:42] you've trapped it. Boots responsibility. Is it going to be
[3:21:45] to retread specifically to Bosco. As we do for any
[3:21:52] of them, I'm like, I believe either Matt does or
[3:21:54] through the municipal 511 system that notice gets posted in
[3:21:58] there in advance so that they can plan here. Who
[3:22:02] has access to that. No, who else has access to
[3:22:05] that system to see, to be able to lock into
[3:22:08] it? Oh, it's publicly helpful. So like all of these
[3:22:15] things get posted so that school board see it all
[3:22:17] the time. I'm thinking specifically of the Christian school because
[3:22:22] I know they use that rage. Okay. And I don't
[3:22:24] know if they're all. Honestly don't know if they are
[3:22:27] not because they do their bossing privately. Right. They have
[3:22:29] their own bus. But I guess what time I know
[3:22:34] for a fact they, they brought kids off both sides
[3:22:37] that brief. Okay. Okay. We can make sure that they're
[3:22:40] special. Make sure that people know, right? Like again, it's
[3:22:45] going to be a problem, right? Let me get, it's
[3:22:47] going to be like downtown. It's going to be a
[3:22:50] problem. But I think one of the issues is that
[3:22:53] people know about it at times. And we do our
[3:22:55] best to reach everybody. We can, I think, is medication.
[3:22:59] I know my wife. No, she's the BP at the
[3:23:01] school. So like. Okay. I have to find them. Okay,
[3:23:11] around. Shouldn't be a tonsuit. Yeah, let me call it
[3:23:15] the art. Back. To the only one I have there.
[3:23:19] And I have Matt's been keeping me up to date.
[3:23:21] Too. But it's been quite helpful. Move on to.
[3:23:33] Fill in the one. Resolve counsell receives all the courts
[3:23:39] up days of fourth July, 2026 for information. In favor.
[3:23:47] Okay, moving on with a manager of planning. Mr. Mayor,
[3:23:50] I just have my, uh, my faulty update report. The
[3:23:53] only item I'd like to bring what's tension UP is
[3:23:56] that, uh, central vision grand valley where. Council Sauce Desire
[3:24:04] to have the OP under R control that we would
[3:24:07] make Council of Make Decisions for site specifics and minor
[3:24:11] push fundamentals. I followed the procedure that was given to
[3:24:16] me by County Staff. And you can see the response
[3:24:21] that it's going to go, I really don't know what's
[3:24:25] going to go. I guess my report and the Resolution
[3:24:28] for this Council will go to County Council, but there's
[3:24:34] no staff report, counting staff report, which I found very
[3:24:37] strange. So I guess I'm asking to kept the Council
[3:24:41] Representatives if you could plug this. I don't know where
[3:24:45] it's going. I mean, if I read my hard report
[3:24:47] was a lot better in tone that Amorites report, Emirates
[3:24:51] Report was very not great. Ours was very different. That
[3:24:57] took a different approach. They still consult with them. But
[3:25:00] ultimately, if it's urban here, it's urbanaire. Like, I mean,
[3:25:04] for those things, it's just, it is a duplication. Um,
[3:25:07] for major issues, like amendments to the county official plan,
[3:25:12] of course, we would have to send ours to there.
[3:25:14] So. I just thought, you know, we're at a stage
[3:25:17] now in our development that we should be able to
[3:25:19] look after these things. I was just, I was taken
[3:25:21] back by the email that I got. I've been pursued.
[3:25:24] I just wanted to see that. So there was Deputy
[3:25:27] American sort of pitch hit for us. I don't know
[3:25:31] if there is an issue. I was going to attempt.
[3:25:33] I think I'll just watch it. On the thing. So
[3:25:37] yeah, that is the only thing I wanted to bring
[3:25:39] to Council's Detention. But if there are any other questions,
[3:25:42] um, happy to do this. For Mark.
[3:25:53] Just a Colin, I had one on the limb, new
[3:25:56] CAO Dr. County, I bet race, the mechanism for developing
[3:26:00] charges. The building department not issuing a occupancy permit before
[3:26:07] they checked in the bus. And she said, show looking
[3:26:10] good. Thank you. And that said, I did. I was
[3:26:14] proactive with the one and I sent an email. Cause
[3:26:17] I hadn't heard anything. I just, I didn't want to
[3:26:19] fall off. And the response I got back, okay. Someone's,
[3:26:26] I'm like happy with. Uh, I dared ask because what
[3:26:30] we call this, this, this, this, this. I think I
[3:26:32] caught Steven. I did copy treasure for both like, wow.
[3:26:36] And every, every sentence ended in of Excalation. Exclamations mark.
[3:26:40] And I was just asking with the simple question. Just
[3:26:43] like, what's the status? Because I thought it would have
[3:26:46] been milled by now. And he, and it's like, okay,
[3:26:49] I respond. So I was just like, I don't know.
[3:26:52] I'm just, I'm just trying to keep the lines of
[3:26:54] communication. Oh, but I don't want to miss it. It's
[3:26:56] money that we're, we're old. We should have been owed
[3:26:59] a lot of time though. So we'll see what happens
[3:27:01] with that. So yeah, that was odd. This is odd.
[3:27:06] So when Mark says that each sentence standard with an
[3:27:08] exclamation mark, he's literally meaning that there was an exclamation
[3:27:12] market at the end of each sets, which kind of
[3:27:15] just, it was weird. Red really gave. It was like,
[3:27:18] I was not necessarily going to just said all I
[3:27:20] want is, no, we have an issue with yes because
[3:27:22] they're not finished. And that's all it just went through.
[3:27:26] Like a whole process. So I don't know what I
[3:27:28] did. That's it. Any questions for
[3:27:38] work, you've done by games like my long, the South
[3:27:42] Council seeds, the report PLN, 2026 - 124 - 1
[3:27:47] fleet planning update. Report August 2026 for information.
[3:28:00] Congrats. For you. For those, basically two updates. One in
[3:28:05] the Dog Count to update you and went on his
[3:28:07] monthly update. So I guess both of those at the
[3:28:11] same time. And answer any questions. Questions. For Resport. Dogs.
[3:28:19] I was just curious because we kind of made the
[3:28:21] decision to streamline and simplify the approach of the whole
[3:28:24] Dog mount day. Um, but now I guess this report
[3:28:27] is saying that it's just not worth it. I guess
[3:28:31] just like, how do we go from deciding that we're
[3:28:33] going to see it through? Because I guess it was
[3:28:36] started, you know, I think it basically beginning this term.
[3:28:39] Trying to come up with a solution for, I guess,
[3:28:41] just to get it wrapped up, just it's not. What
[3:28:47] you mean. Like we've already got, well, what is it
[3:28:50] going on? In the Count in town and we send
[3:28:53] out the notices in town about maybe a third or
[3:28:56] a half registered. And we don't know what the situation
[3:29:00] is with the others. Maybe they don't have their dogs
[3:29:02] anymore or they're just finely ignoring their feasible to investigate
[3:29:09] residents. It would take a lot of effort. To do
[3:29:13] it. But this thought is that there would be zero.
[3:29:16] Only. So if we got complaint or found that dog,
[3:29:20] that it's not like we give them six months or
[3:29:23] it would be no, get the dog license or you'll
[3:29:25] be fine. Okay. I don't know. I just like to
[3:29:28] see a follow through personally. That's kind of what we
[3:29:30] decided. To kind of pull this year as was kind
[3:29:32] of more tooth baby. But like, sure. It's certainly difficult
[3:29:36] to investigate these because they'll tell you that the dog
[3:29:40] doesn't live there. Yeah. But he knows now going there,
[3:29:43] whatever you guys went around, it was like a deer
[3:29:46] rebuild, right? We know there was a dog there that
[3:29:48] there was there last time. I mean, there's no, like
[3:29:52] that doesn't stand right. Then you know for a five
[3:29:54] minutes. And we kind of decided that if that's the
[3:29:57] fans they want to take, we just smile. And that's
[3:30:01] what it will be. So yes, if we go there
[3:30:03] and there's dog there, it's not like my point is
[3:30:06] that we're not going to go there. And like you
[3:30:10] said, like if the complaint doesn't probably not going to
[3:30:11] be a complaint, right? We're going to. I don't know,
[3:30:14] I'll let. You talk about it next time. Potentially. Hello.
[3:30:22] There we go. Steel with the non compliance. Because like
[3:30:26] I was never for this whole Doll Count in the
[3:30:31] first place. But we've committed at this stage of the
[3:30:34] game. So we're down to the last, what, 117, so
[3:30:40] to speak. It doesn't seem fair that everybody else has
[3:30:44] registered. It's registered. And then these people haven't and they
[3:30:48] get away with it. There's no consequence. So how do
[3:30:52] other municipalities? Like I'm not asking for an answer. Now.
[3:30:55] But I think. It should be looked at because, yeah.
[3:31:01] I don't. We'll miss all these don't do this. They
[3:31:02] don't do the dog counts. Or they had, or they
[3:31:05] have a large department of people whose job it is
[3:31:09] to do dog counts. And as you find right on
[3:31:11] the spot kind of thing. Yeah. So. The first place.
[3:31:20] So. Certainly, um. We would, if, if the direction is
[3:31:26] no, we want these 117 dogs pursued, we would likely
[3:31:30] need to bring in our canine control people. And it
[3:31:35] will just cost more. Our money end in time. So.
[3:31:39] We're certainly going to basically at this point I read
[3:31:43] deciding whether to cover losses. And. Just, here's what's been
[3:31:49] fine on and not play nights that something comes up.
[3:31:54] And also I guess from a liability point of anything
[3:31:57] happens. The people that are registered is municipality lives, but
[3:32:01] for not ensuring that, I don't know. Yeah. My sensing
[3:32:10] doesn't necessarily cover that. I mean. I didn't want to
[3:32:16] get into this. But since you brought it up, there
[3:32:17] are certain dog species that are not allowed to be
[3:32:19] in Ontario. We have been enforced that. And that may
[3:32:25] be a chunk of those 117 dogs is that they
[3:32:27] know their dog isn't a legal species. On. And are
[3:32:31] we going to, that would be. That's a different conversation
[3:32:35] that we would be entering. And that's where. We would
[3:32:44] be essentially telling people to destroy their dog. That's what
[3:32:47] the law states. That dogs have legal can't be here.
[3:32:52] And so, um, that's another part of our hesitation. Pursuit
[3:33:00] even further unless the problem. If the problem. Enforcement deals
[3:33:04] is they. Dogs that have been licensed there now participate
[3:33:09] and demonstrating that yes, Hey, the dogs are live here.
[3:33:12] They're contributing to the program. They're contributing to potential future
[3:33:16] dog related. Birks or doll things. And that is more
[3:33:24] where we were headed was to get coverage for the
[3:33:28] cost of DELP programs in town. It is on to
[3:33:32] me up to you. It's just a recommendation that we
[3:33:35] don't pursue for other, but we can if that's the
[3:33:39] direction of cancer. Sorry. The other part of the discussion
[3:33:46] I recall last was the fact that again now the
[3:33:48] people that did comply, they're kind of getting utilised. Like
[3:33:52] again, the short end of the state. They paid and
[3:33:54] registered. But if they just not, then they get away
[3:33:56] with it. Oh, this was the other part of the
[3:33:59] discussion that we had. Right. Like this is why we
[3:34:02] kind of also agreed to just again, you're correct. The
[3:34:05] whole initiative was potentially like a dog park. And we
[3:34:08] did invest in three - ish years. Into this. So
[3:34:12] it doesn't get through and get it. Done. And how
[3:34:14] would we do both of them. Because like if I
[3:34:16] had done it and I was sitting here having this
[3:34:18] discussion, I'd be like, oh my. Just reading, it's the
[3:34:23] reality. Like so how do we handle that? That is
[3:34:26] generally an argument than any of them. That'd be who's
[3:34:28] the ones that were licensed before. Like when people that
[3:34:30] have routinely licensed for the last 25, 30, 40 years
[3:34:34] could argue that as well. In which case. My, my
[3:34:40] direction wouldn't be to this, it would be. Just maybe
[3:34:43] sick and it's not priority, but we still need the.
[3:34:47] Action. That's. What I was supposed. To point of that,
[3:34:54] Will, the costs will definitely go to anyone. This is
[3:34:58] a bracket. He has three pile. He can do. I
[3:35:03] will object to that. Okay. As CAO, yeah, no. He.
[3:35:10] Doesn't just have three time. So that is the first
[3:35:14] objection I've heard. About having three time. Yeah. So I
[3:35:18] would still say yes either that then. I mean, or
[3:35:20] you give everyone money back. And I'm all just completely.
[3:35:24] That would be my stats on it. If I was
[3:35:27] like, we're not going to see it through mid and
[3:35:29] decision to see it. And now every hurdle, it's just
[3:35:31] let's just give up. This has been the problem with
[3:35:34] this. I guess it makes no sense. And that's flavour.
[3:35:40] I mean, open to you guys this guy. Is again
[3:35:42] Counter Ranked to the first? How much cost to give
[3:35:45] everybody the money back. I already talk about everybody. And
[3:35:50] then we don't. And then that, that would be the
[3:35:52] discussion. If we're fully refunding licences and we're not going
[3:35:56] to license anymore. Are we also going to do canine
[3:35:59] control. And if we are doing canine control, is it
[3:36:02] property taxes paying the cost of canine control. I'm very
[3:36:08] neutral on this. This is your community. This is your
[3:36:13] revenge fell. Are not quiet to do canine control. If
[3:36:17] they do, they have the decision was made because this
[3:36:19] is something again, this, I feel like it started with
[3:36:21] this chart account, so it's the size that it was
[3:36:23] going to happen with the emphasis on intensity. I. Know.
[3:36:26] But then nothing happened with it. And it kept coming
[3:36:28] back up. And I'm coming back up. Then not too
[3:36:31] long ago, it would. Let's just do it this way.
[3:36:33] We have direction to kind of represent us with how
[3:36:37] painstaking is it going to be for him. He said,
[3:36:39] no, do it this way. You're kind of here. Just
[3:36:41] get it done. And now it's, some people comply. Others
[3:36:45] don't. And now we're sitting here saying that they don't
[3:36:48] comply. But the wholesale no complaint that there's nothing that's
[3:36:50] going to happen. We just get away. With it. We
[3:36:53] can't do that. Like we made that decision. So my
[3:36:57] or we give direction to continue. I as best you
[3:37:01] can and then new term and Council can review this.
[3:37:05] And if they want to acknowledge it, they want to
[3:37:06] hammer down. They want to pay more look on this
[3:37:08] side. I just don't understand how this takes like four
[3:37:13] years. And now we're still back to the. Doesn't make
[3:37:18] sense. There should have been done. I should have still
[3:37:20] been working on it. I always thought this was a
[3:37:29] bit of the fools there. But one makes good point.
[3:37:33] And I think at least sending another letter to the
[3:37:37] people who didn't require the first fun. To out there
[3:37:42] at least still on notice. I don't think bad costs
[3:37:45] a whole lot of money. Less. Um. But yeah, I'm
[3:37:52] going to break red paper. That's commission points.
[3:38:04] Trying to put a bit of fear into the pen.
[3:38:06] I don't think a hundred dollar five is enough either.
[3:38:13] So that's how it's going to happen. Yeah. Just, just
[3:38:20] letting it go part of it. It's like, well, kind
[3:38:25] of this far. Right. Um. Yeah, I thought I think
[3:38:32] we should send the letter for sure. Um, try to
[3:38:36] follow up. Where you get. But I know we have
[3:38:43] a lot of people keep on to put property standards.
[3:38:50] Domingos. Yeah. I've always put a parking, but they're probably
[3:38:57] be not as much true. So as there are. But
[3:39:01] I mean, that's getting into operations. So yeah, I would
[3:39:06] do a letter. No, look, as you were able, if
[3:39:10] you happen to be down street doing something else, it
[3:39:15] does not, yeah, there any can sort of go together.
[3:39:19] We're only not going to go knock on this door
[3:39:21] and see if the dog there. You know, at some
[3:39:24] point in time, our wheelhouse could just say the dog
[3:39:27] here, you have to give license work. And then put
[3:39:31] it off a property order to prove that it's not
[3:39:34] actually their comic. I don't know the process on that
[3:39:40] whether that's a court decision. Okay. So that would be,
[3:39:45] can I think it should be that way, right? If
[3:39:48] Staff show up at a door and the dog there,
[3:39:50] that's not licensed. He is your license. Here's the bill.
[3:39:55] That should be process. And then put it on method.
[3:39:59] Put it on the power B owner to. Prove that
[3:40:03] it's not their dog. Or that they deserve an exception.
[3:40:15] Okay. That's where I followed. So I will need direction
[3:40:18] on whatever we're doing, whether we're charging or if we're
[3:40:22] sending out a bill or if we're going whatever or
[3:40:24] doing nothing. That's what we need. To know. What's the
[3:40:28] resolution district? So the board.
[3:40:43] I have a look. At the canine control by law
[3:40:45] enforcement. Frictions. In a long time slightly. I remember what
[3:40:48] it says. Sort of billing return debt. Anytime those pieces.
[3:41:20] The. B - 26th age. Controlled Dog Count and other
[3:41:26] matters were Purples Pro. And the Resolution reads, it resolved
[3:41:31] that Council receives the metal cannot control. com, other matters.
[3:41:35] And further that Council Direct staff to follow up with
[3:41:37] properties that were found to have doll register. And further
[3:41:41] that these properties be given 30 days. And further that
[3:41:44] following these 30 days, can I control will issue fines
[3:41:47] for unregistered line. So. We're now 38 past
[3:41:57] that. So I guess so just that kind of renders
[3:41:59] what the FBMer is writing that. Will happen, but. It's
[3:42:03] already been a resolution. That's why I said like, cause
[3:42:06] Brad had this whole thing about having to travel and
[3:42:09] all that stuff. And we said, no, this is what
[3:42:10] we're doing. It was a shorter scope. For now. We've
[3:42:14] gone past that. Yeah. So thank you. Connor. So what
[3:42:21] is, so what is the direction? How issue is fine.
[3:42:25] That's what's already said that he should be issuing fun.
[3:42:30] Yeah. Sorry, this is where I'm coming from. It's like,
[3:42:33] I remember the last meeting we kind of already did
[3:42:35] this. So to come here now, the Reedo is not
[3:42:37] worth it. Like we already had this injection. If you
[3:42:41] need context for any type of research, you're writing that
[3:42:44] resolution was 2026. 0531. And it was from the May.
[3:42:52] Here. Let me get back to that. 2026, 05, 31.
[3:42:58] What's from the May 26. Meeting.
[3:43:19] Followed the word. So I guess I got to ask
[3:43:29] that that was already the previous direction from May. I
[3:43:32] guess, how was it. I guess why are we here.
[3:43:36] Because then this is like this kind of, I think
[3:43:38] there was another quest for an update. But then the
[3:43:42] update shouldn't have been this, the update should have been,
[3:43:45] I find all of. The, I'm not sure that the
[3:43:49] previous reports outlined the cost of that. So we wanted
[3:43:53] to bring those, what the fact that the costs will
[3:43:57] far exceed any fine or permit revenue. Just because this
[3:44:03] is Brad's, this isn't going through the, whatever the graduate
[3:44:07] is going to take matter of how time, assuming is
[3:44:09] it to verify for Resident Evil. How far each roughly.
[3:44:14] And then they cited our museum. And I'm just saying
[3:44:17] there. I think, yeah, we made the decision already is
[3:44:20] my point. And now here we are arguing, like it's
[3:44:23] kind of like this, this is just breeze past previous
[3:44:25] motion. This is like what I'm going to try now
[3:44:29] to understand. Tried to just make and Council fully aware.
[3:44:35] Of. The applications of that motion. Okay. Let's draft implications
[3:44:41] with the word I was trying to find. Okay everybody's
[3:44:47] all right. Um, move by Lauren's like my file. You
[3:44:51] saw the Council receives the report doctrine update for information
[3:44:54] purpose. And further that the 2026 - 0530 - 31
[3:45:02] from Maine 2026 meeting the employment. Any questions on there.
[3:45:17] What is Just try to answer. Do you know if
[3:45:24] he's issued a client on the property with the paper.
[3:45:28] I won't discuss specific cases and helping Council sessions. So
[3:45:32] you could ask me after. Discussing. If I fill second
[3:45:39] by James, Peter's all the Council receives through four by
[3:45:42] - law enforcement status update July 2026 for information. Prison.
[3:45:46] Favourite. To look at.
[3:45:57] Throws some pills. Of Meeting. Non - figures, Benny, I
[3:46:03] am or not. Um. I. Would mention it to CAO.
[3:46:10] Scheme name. Ball Dining. Sorry being fixed.
[3:46:29] Um, correspondence. Trusted any name of those.
[3:46:41] Here is all of the Council received the correspondence listed
[3:46:43] on the Tuesday, August 11, 2026 Council Agenda. Favourite.
[3:47:00] Can we counsel report. County Council as meeting on Turs.
[3:47:08] Talk about. Minister Denification?
[3:47:19] That news? I couldn't have that. That's number two. Oh,
[3:47:24] okay. What was Ken? Take one. No, he can't. Cancelling.
[3:47:29] Okay. Yes.
[3:47:52] Council updates. Anybody put up to something or his summer's
[3:47:55] taken over. He's pretty quiet. We did meet with the
[3:48:00] OTP, which I touched on previously. Um, it's just the
[3:48:04] chairs of the Respective Wards. That was July. Um, letter
[3:48:10] record has met once briefly just to talk with the
[3:48:14] stuff. Just to get, make sure things are going. As
[3:48:20] his. Just what is happening. About.
[3:48:32] Anybody with some new business? So there's that type of
[3:48:36] federation. There. Producers having the barbecue tonight. I think everybody
[3:48:40] got invited by the two. It's a name, right. Might
[3:48:44] be worth going to. Have a nice new fire. Have
[3:48:48] I ever seen a house. Hit miss. I had a
[3:48:54] very, very. Nice move actually. It's not creep with our
[3:48:57] new CAO at the county. He said. She's got a
[3:49:02] lot of ideas, which is good. I told her some
[3:49:05] of it. We're probably going to get her fired. And
[3:49:07] she said, I'm okay with that. So I said, well,
[3:49:11] then I think we're going to get a long justified.
[3:49:14] So. Uh, yeah. So I think we'll see how that
[3:49:19] goes, but I think. There's certainly a new energy there
[3:49:23] anyways. But she's free to table. And I think that
[3:49:30] was the hope. Yeah, she. Has.
[3:49:41] Apparently they weren't going to be on what changed it
[3:49:44] mentioned. A new business Decider would have new business. Why
[3:49:52] don't we do closed session. Could we do a new
[3:49:57] business app? Cause there might be something that comes out
[3:49:59] of closed session. That might be under new business. We'll
[3:50:02] see. Or you could include that promotion, the rising report
[3:50:05] motion. Well, we might, we'll talk about in a closed
[3:50:10] session, but it might be a discussion that has to
[3:50:12] be an open session. That's what I'm asking. So if
[3:50:15] we can hold on to new business. Okay, fine, still
[3:50:19] around, I also have to leave. To make now. I'll
[3:50:23] stick around. For people. I need. Help. Don't notice the
[3:50:28] motion. You've got one. I lost. By. Love. Essentially, not,
[3:50:37] it needs to be deferred. So I don't think we
[3:50:42] would be, I don't think we need to pass a
[3:50:43] resolution. We'll just put deferred. Yeah. I've just been going
[3:50:46] to set this. So. I have to let Paul Malmore
[3:50:51] come into Close session. So you can sneak in a.
[3:51:01] Commit that we passed the motion first and we can
[3:51:03] shut the meeting. Okay. By Lauren Secobait chase.
[3:51:15] Counting Resolve itself into a meaning that is closed public
[3:51:19] at 141. Also all the text PM. Municipal 2021 under
[3:51:28] the provisional section 239 to a bracket. As follows personal
[3:51:35] matters, uh, unidentifiable and controlling muciful or local. C is
[3:51:41] a proposed of pending announces when, but Valley was on
[3:51:46] board and K position plan procedure criteria or instruction to
[3:51:51] be applied to any negotiations carried on or to be
[3:51:56] carried on, but I mean, I have the municipali. All
[3:51:59] the. Two.
[5:13:33] Lauren second by Phil, be a result of Call for
[5:13:35] the Churched Meaning at 303. P. m. To rise and
[5:13:42] record in open session.
[5:13:56] It was all that the closed session minutes of July
[5:13:59] 14, 2026 close session Council Medien, the July 21, 20026
[5:14:05] Closed Council meeting be approved as circulated. Confiber again.
[5:14:21] We resolve the Council receives confidential report sale of town
[5:14:24] grab fit in Southgate. Pool of sale. I've heard of
[5:14:28] that Council approves the sales of the property located at
[5:14:31] 046384. Surfgate road - 04 Southgate, Ontario to be an
[5:14:38] email cate farms. For the amount of 825, 000. And
[5:14:43] authorized the CAO to work with the Councilici to conclude
[5:14:47] the sale. Equals to the favor.
[5:15:00] By. James. Single. - iPhone. You resolve the Council receives
[5:15:07] the confidential report fireboard and directs the CAO to proceed
[5:15:11] as discussed in closed session. And arrange deletion by the
[5:15:15] mayor of the town. Got the township of the towns
[5:15:22] of their brand regarding the fireboard. Questions on finger.
[5:15:41] My fill. It resolved the Council of received Confidential Verbal
[5:15:45] Update regarding medical centre lease, mix CAO to proceed as
[5:15:49] disgusting close sessions.
[5:16:06] By James, second by Paul, he resolved the Council receives
[5:16:09] the Staffing Update and Dreo to proceed as discussed in
[5:16:13] Gluci.
[5:16:25] Gonna circle back to new business. Okay. You wish this,
[5:16:28] the last. And I
[5:16:38] get, so. Talk. A lot about. Where funding comes. Corree,
[5:16:45] but certain one of those things. And I don't know
[5:16:49] if this is feeds or not. What I would say
[5:16:52] was just throwing in a preserve. My suggestion would be
[5:16:55] to take half the money and create an endowment. Part.
[5:17:00] Charles, the anomaly fund is that you never have access
[5:17:03] to whatever capital you put in. But you have in
[5:17:08] perpetuity, you have interest. And so it's not a whole
[5:17:13] lot, but it's something that wouldn't just be property taxes.
[5:17:19] Whether we set up our own, I don't even know
[5:17:21] if we're allowed to. I'm assuming we could. Hand it
[5:17:25] to the Duffy Community Country. I'm assuming we could do
[5:17:28] that. But that managed for us. Or we have to
[5:17:32] set up our own. But I. Just, I've been taking
[5:17:37] a lot. About how we talk about where do we
[5:17:40] get our money from. We only have property taxes. So
[5:17:42] at least we have an opportunity here to at least
[5:17:45] start something different. It wouldn't be a whole hell of
[5:17:50] a lot of year, but we have other properties that
[5:17:52] are surplus. We're probably going to sound. Next turn, then
[5:17:57] maybe the next term council would add to it. And
[5:18:00] if you can build up an invalidment pun, you can
[5:18:03] eventually have a source of continual. I'm going to call
[5:18:08] it a, well, revenue is the right word. That separate
[5:18:12] property taxes. And that's what we, because for the four
[5:18:15] seedful future, that's all we found. Right? We've got property
[5:18:18] tax, and it's mostly resentful. And I think we need
[5:18:22] to try something different. And that's one way of doing
[5:18:26] differently. Grab it. Okay, so we put in a reserve,
[5:18:29] and we don't make anything you'd be, we're going to
[5:18:31] use the reserves. And then they're all. So that was
[5:18:37] my gospel. It's a different federal. That's a community foundation.
[5:18:42] And I don't know how to know what we've heard.
[5:18:46] It lasted money with them. Bascular Museum of Dufford did,
[5:18:51] and we're not that much different than the museum with
[5:18:53] Doughton. First Rex took out the profit. Any comments. I'm
[5:19:01] going to be an idea. Yeah, I will. Those two
[5:19:07] James and Lauren. First. Give the floor ball. Okay, thank
[5:19:16] you, Richard. Um, through you, if nothing else, LES would
[5:19:20] have, is it one financial or whatever their group is
[5:19:24] for investments? But I, depending on what Staff say, as
[5:19:28] far as the limited, like it's got to be low
[5:19:30] risk, uh, zero risk or whatever, something like that. If
[5:19:34] I remember. From some of their discussions at conferences, so
[5:19:40] that'd be another option if we wanted to invest. Did
[5:19:48] you have, I'm just curious right now, have you had
[5:19:50] any of what would this interest be used for, which
[5:19:52] I'm like for community grants. Or are we talking for
[5:19:56] interest to outside walks? Or what are we interested. I
[5:20:00] think B up for, I'm throwing it to General Revenue,
[5:20:03] right? Is what I would be. Right. Like I'm, I'm,
[5:20:06] I'm searching for different Revenue streets. That's on search for.
[5:20:13] Okay. That's the idea behind. Right? The flip side is
[5:20:17] you don't have access to the principle. Right. So like
[5:20:23] a cemetery reserve, we can't touch. It. What have you
[5:20:29] and one financial, I guess in way you want to
[5:20:30] make sure you don't. But. Um, just from staff, what
[5:20:35] is we have to take some money out of the
[5:20:38] funding to cover the lot we purchased at the West
[5:20:40] Pa No east. Back alley? I had, I had that
[5:20:48] number. I don't. 225 would pay for it, I think.
[5:20:52] Oh, that's right. Okay. I think it's 225, we paid.
[5:20:55] So we need to take that count back to that.
[5:20:57] That's 225. And then, uh, yeah, the rest weekend decided.
[5:21:05] Do you want. So he decided his meeting. Sorry, Paul.
[5:21:10] Has to be decided this meeting? No, and I'll tell
[5:21:20] you why, because you're not spending it. We're also on
[5:21:22] technically getting in until what was their completion date. So
[5:21:27] yeah, we'll get the money some 10 night or something
[5:21:29] like that. Yeah. Like a week or two after clothes
[5:21:31] and stuff. Like the next term of council too. So
[5:21:35] we've been all the time to figure out it. Do
[5:21:37] you want to report back on usability of this announcement.
[5:21:42] Idea. Well, if nobody likes there, I figured I'd ask
[5:21:48] if not, he likes the ID. I don't have to
[5:21:49] do it anymore. It's kind of handy. Yes. Exactly. I
[5:21:53] like it. I can get ideas that I have to
[5:21:56] do more work, which I can do. Okay. I don't
[5:21:58] mind doing. Okay. I personally all in favor of investing.
[5:22:03] I mean, we've done it now in Fireboard, the BIA.
[5:22:05] If that made it, definitely, no risk is good. I
[5:22:09] don't really like the idea of not having access to
[5:22:11] the principal only because of how, seeing how things can
[5:22:15] arise and how this TARD has struggled to maybe expect
[5:22:19] as a call. It's nice to just kind of have
[5:22:21] a little bit of a leg out. Um, sorry. Anyway,
[5:22:27] that's international that's it. Like I could keep going for
[5:22:30] those type of head. I mean, we know we're going
[5:22:32] to have their projects coming up. We know we're going
[5:22:34] to get hit with some surprises and who the heck
[5:22:36] knows who's going to go on, which means community centred
[5:22:38] by a car, whatever. Um, I don't want to just
[5:22:41] extend it because we have it, but I think it's,
[5:22:44] I'd like to still have access to it. You know.
[5:22:51] I agree with Deputy Maris. Suggestion. I don't know if
[5:22:57] that's the right direction. In terms of, or the right
[5:23:01] tool. But in general, I don't want to have access
[5:23:04] to it because that's where we are right now. Because
[5:23:07] we have access to a larger reserve. So we dig
[5:23:10] into it. And screwing shots. That's the problem. Because we
[5:23:16] say, Oh, we can just take it on a reserve.
[5:23:18] See, bakers, those bad players, which we don't do. Doesn't
[5:23:21] don't have enough money. So then we're right back. To
[5:23:26] square one. That's a problem. Like I understand what you're
[5:23:29] saying. But having that easy access is part of the
[5:23:35] situation. Part of the problem that's got us here at
[5:23:38] first because we have had access to the funds. But
[5:23:42] I think also how we ended last year in that
[5:23:45] emergency meeting had to do because we had no money
[5:23:47] and all these other things. And now the other thing
[5:23:49] that was a cash flow. Yeah. And BK, we also
[5:23:53] have no reserves. You know what I mean? And like
[5:23:55] now we could potentially have something that mortal run. Comes
[5:23:58] from. I could be smart enough. Well, then we have
[5:24:01] to start painting our reserves back. Which is separate from
[5:24:05] that. See the problem with land is they're not making
[5:24:08] any more of it. And so without the properties. Offload
[5:24:18] them with the money in. But my biggest thing is,
[5:24:21] is the return of these places. It's like. One percent
[5:24:25] is not a return. That just covers the bank charges
[5:24:27] and administration fees. That's my only. But you know that.
[5:24:38] S what money we don't have now. We don't have.
[5:24:43] So all we had was a lot of there. So
[5:24:44] now we'll have 600, 000 dollars. Just take the interest
[5:24:50] off of that as a Regustream. Excuse Paul. Thank
[5:25:00] you, Urshi. I would lean. So either we can get
[5:25:03] a report, but I would lean that sale of land
[5:25:07] goes towards purchase of another piece. We're going to have
[5:25:09] purchases in the future here as we grow. Um, that
[5:25:14] down payment should pay for something that we're going to
[5:25:17] need. Um, but I'm fine. Like I would move a
[5:25:21] motion that we get direction on the feasibility of an
[5:25:24] endowment or investing into, uh, one with LAS, one financial
[5:25:29] or whatever it's called. But that would be as far
[5:25:32] as I want to go at the moment. Just to
[5:25:35] get a report pack. I also concur with buying another
[5:25:42] property that we're going to have. To get in place.
[5:25:46] Everyone can't jeopardize locking out half to put that money
[5:25:50] as. And then now having access to it. Then you
[5:25:53] can't use it device as properly. No, I said where
[5:25:57] I'm coming from. Like why locking up if we're going
[5:25:59] to spend it. Set up the doll in for a
[5:26:02] certain time too. Why don't that go down to do
[5:26:06] it. Oh, I want to do stuff. Staff looking. Can
[5:26:16] I offer one more option? No for us to consider.
[5:26:21] Can we pay back some of the internal bar money
[5:26:24] that we have already. So the issue that we have
[5:26:27] is that we know that we have internal borrowing. We
[5:26:30] don't have necessarily a plan to repair. For the existing.
[5:26:38] I'm not talking about the DC that we're going to
[5:26:40] be borrowing with competition. I'm talking about the other ones.
[5:26:47] This before long way to closing that gap. I mean,
[5:26:52] I just thought I'd put it up there. Also, I
[5:26:55] have to, so you have like money. So, so just
[5:27:00] I think I kind of tried to touch on it
[5:27:03] a while ago when I asked for a report on
[5:27:04] where we were in December to June, but I think
[5:27:07] we need, if we're going to do that, we need
[5:27:10] to report on what, cause that's funding that we spent
[5:27:12] without any tracking or control. Right. If that's going to
[5:27:16] go back to repaid, not DCs, like it's not just
[5:27:20] an internal cash flow thing. I think we need to
[5:27:22] figure out what did we spend that we didn't have
[5:27:24] money for. And if it, if it, if we need
[5:27:27] half a million dollars of suns, repay stuff that we've
[5:27:30] purchased or expended without knowing what the funding source was,
[5:27:35] I think that's a, that's a very concerning, predicament we
[5:27:40] find ourselves in. So thank you, Mr. Man, that was,
[5:27:44] I think there were parts that I've already provided to
[5:27:47] date. There was a horse of investigations that I had
[5:27:51] done. I mean, for instance, purchasing that peaceful end that
[5:27:56] we're talking about repaying that is a perfect example of
[5:27:59] something that we had to take money out, but we
[5:28:02] didn't have the money in our budget. Um, there were
[5:28:08] other instances where for cash flow purposes, um, the money
[5:28:13] was moved from reserves into our operated back end. And
[5:28:17] it just, I think it was a regular practice before.
[5:28:20] In some cases, it did get repaid. But based on
[5:28:23] the analysis, I still had more to pay back. It
[5:28:31] would be more directly related to property tabs. So rears
[5:28:34] that we had to casually flow it from reserves. Versus
[5:28:42] purchases life gated block. That was not budgeted for, I
[5:28:46] can't think of any other purchases that we did that
[5:28:49] were going on funded by the budget. So any direction
[5:28:54] to Staff at this point is it's just a more
[5:28:58] consideration. I like the idea. I'd make a motion that
[5:29:03] we have a staff report back on the feasibility of
[5:29:06] an endowment investing with, uh, LAS or what Steven just
[5:29:11] asked for. Those three options. I think we need to
[5:29:14] give it some consideration. So I think we need some
[5:29:17] information to make that decision. Just information everything.
[5:29:28] You'd have to find a second here, but that'd be
[5:29:31] what I'd do. Sorry. I was thinking about.
[5:29:44] Yeah. Just more, I mean, this will come back quick.
[5:29:48] Yeah. Theft community foundation, they guarantee a five percent return.
[5:29:53] They have to discredit five percent of their funds that
[5:29:57] are invested every year. They've been making, while over five
[5:30:02] percent a year, they take, they take two percent.
[5:30:12] And then they do invest either AD. If they make
[5:30:16] more, if the option of giving up five percent or
[5:30:21] reinvesting it like increasing the size of these element, you
[5:30:25] can have any sort of trouble if you need it.
[5:30:30] And you can have up to 50 percent of the
[5:30:32] fact. If you're in a crisis situation. The court has
[5:30:35] to prove that. The other 50 percent is that block
[5:30:39] in. That is the downside of having an outlet. The
[5:30:44] upside of it is you have money. To be. Most
[5:30:49] of us can sort of allow five since years of
[5:30:51] extremely well though. You know, the world around excuses. They've
[5:30:56] had a lot of really good. They have one really
[5:30:58] bad year. Bay five years in midtines. In the past
[5:31:03] few years. So is there a, we have a Paul
[5:31:08] moved devotion that Staff Report back on the endowment planned
[5:31:12] idea, the one investment program. And the Call and Reserve
[5:31:18] payback. Jamie's second did it. I'm assuming this will come
[5:31:25] look at recommendation. I already know what Stevens. I mean,
[5:31:31] we can all recite him now every time we know
[5:31:34] where that's fun. It's just in a different pocket. Let's
[5:31:40] put it to the wraith pocket. That's me. Is that
[5:31:47] all for conventions to make? Yep. Okay. Give me a
[5:31:53] link so I can make down so we don't have
[5:31:54] to get it in the Stafford on us resolution. Go
[5:32:02] ahead. I'll catch up on this action. But you know,
[5:32:05] if there's. My felon
[5:32:15] second, my Lauren, he was ultimately given to introduce a
[5:32:19] biological. Confirm the proceedings. Of the regular Council Meeting on
[5:32:23] LDON Tuesday, August 11, 2026. And it'd be given the
[5:32:28] necessary readings and asked a number as Bylaw 2026 -
[5:32:33] 48 on favourite.
[5:32:44] Okay. You already did. You already told us the list.
[5:32:48] So I'm just writing the camera. Okay. Move by James.
[5:32:54] Sign of my poll. He resolved that we now do
[5:32:57] adjourn this regular Council meeting at. 323. P. m. To
[5:33:06] me again for a regular Council meeting on September the
[5:33:09] 8, 2026 6 p. m. or it's called in there.
[5:33:13] Favor. Seeking for the 6 p. m. September's back to
[5:33:18] two meetings. What.