1 00:00:23,279 --> 00:00:26,320 Good afternoon everyone. Um, I now call 2 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,480 to order the hearing of the assessment 3 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,960 review board to order for July 15, 2026 4 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,239 at 10:01 p.m. 5 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:37,920 Please note that today's hearing is 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,559 being streamed lived and recorded on 7 00:00:40,559 --> 00:00:43,040 YouTube. Attendees acknowledge 8 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,960 acknowledge names, addresses, and other 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,719 details provided when speaking in 10 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:49,520 today's hearing will be publicly shared. 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,360 You should have, should you have any 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,520 questions, please contact legislative 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,320 and advisory services division for the 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,719 town of High River by sending an email 15 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:03,440 to atiphy river.ca. 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,360 First, I would like to introduce myself. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Um, I am Renee Clemens, chair of the 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,920 assessment review board for the 2026 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,080 term, and I'm serving as the presiding 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,600 officer in today's uh local assessment 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,680 review board hearing. 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,119 Um, at this time I will introduce or 23 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:23,119 allow my fellow board members to 24 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:25,520 introduce themselves. 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,830 >> Hello, my name is Taylor Cameron. I'm a 26 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:27,840 » Hello, my name is Taylor Cameron. I'm a 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,280 member of the assessment review board. 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,270 >> My name is Hank Lee Frank. I'm a member 29 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:33,280 » My name is Hank Lee Frank. I'm a member 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,000 as well. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,910 >> The matter before the board today is a 32 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:37,920 » The matter before the board today is a 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,600 merit hearing regarding the following 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 role numbers and property addresses. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Roll number 80139 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,439 0 located at 38 Sunrise Place Northeast 37 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,320 and RO number 8161 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,880 0 located at 64 Sunrise Place Northeast. 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,040 These properties are owned by Paul and 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,159 Sarah Jane Bloomfield. 41 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:03,680 This hearing will consider the 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,000 complaintant filed and the evidence 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,399 presented by both parties respecting the 44 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:10,640 assessed value. 45 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:12,720 I will now ask those present to 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,120 introduce themselves for the record. Uh 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 we will begin with board administration 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,280 followed by the complainant and then the 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,470 respondent. 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,239 Good afternoon. I am Jod Hipkin, 51 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:26,800 co-chair with my colleague 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:34,630 Alicia Plet. 53 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,160 » Complainant. 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,150 >> Hi, my name is Paul Blumfield and I am 55 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:38,160 » Hi, my name is Paul Blumfield and I am 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,630 the complainant. 57 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:44,959 Good afternoon. My name is Stuart Dumple 58 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:48,319 um representing the respondent. 59 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:50,309 >> My name is Brandon Garner. I'm uh an 60 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:50,319 » My name is Brandon Garner. I'm uh an 61 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:52,400 assessor with the town of High River. 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,030 >> Thank you. 63 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:55,040 » Thank you. 64 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,869 >> Before we begin, I'll briefly outline 65 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:56,879 » Before we begin, I'll briefly outline 66 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,519 the hearing process. Um this is a quasi 67 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:01,120 judicial hearing and the board will 68 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 consider the evidence and submission 69 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,080 presented by both parties. All parties 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,239 are expected to provide truthful and 71 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:10,400 accurate information as the board will 72 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,959 rely on this in making their decision. 73 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:14,800 All questions are to be directed through 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,040 the chair 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,040 and the complainant will present their 76 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,760 case followed by the respondent. The 77 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,440 complainant will then be able to present 78 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,000 their rebuttal. Each party will have the 79 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,959 opportunity to ask any questions of each 80 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:31,680 other um or one another and the board 81 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,640 may ask questions at any time. 82 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:36,799 We will conclude the closing submissions 83 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:39,280 and any evidence not disclosed in 84 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,040 accordance with the required timelines 85 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 may not be accepted by the board. Before 86 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,480 we proceed, are there any preliminary 87 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 matters from either party such as 88 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 questions about the hearing process and 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,280 how the hearing will proceed? 90 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,509 >> Not from me. 91 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:57,519 » Not from me. 92 00:03:57,519 --> 00:03:59,270 >> No, no questions from the respondent. 93 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:59,280 » No, no questions from the respondent. 94 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Thank you. 95 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,149 >> Thank you. concerns about potential 96 00:04:02,149 --> 00:04:02,159 » Thank you. concerns about potential 97 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:04,640 conflict of interest or bias with any of 98 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,789 the board members? 99 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:11,360 » Again, not for me. Thank you, chair. 100 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,710 >> Thank you. And none here, too. Thank 101 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:12,720 » Thank you. And none here, too. Thank 102 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,040 you. 103 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,509 >> Thank you. Concerns about documents and 104 00:04:15,509 --> 00:04:15,519 » Thank you. Concerns about documents and 105 00:04:15,519 --> 00:04:17,280 evidence that were submitted or not 106 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:21,349 received. 107 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:23,840 » Uh, again, no from me 108 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,430 >> and none from the respondent either. 109 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:25,440 » and none from the respondent either. 110 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Thank you. 111 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,440 requests to have someone speak on your 112 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,520 behalf or assist during the hearing. I'm 113 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 assuming no because we are all present. 114 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,000 And any other procedural issues that 115 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,680 should be addressed before we begin 116 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,240 discussing the property assessment? 117 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,629 >> All good here. Thank you. 118 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:44,639 » All good here. Thank you. 119 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:45,909 >> Yeah. All good. Thank you very much, 120 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:45,919 » Yeah. All good. Thank you very much, 121 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:46,479 Madam Chair. 122 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:50,150 >> Thank you. 123 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,280 » Um I will now invite the complainant to 124 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,520 present their case. Um and you may 125 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,919 proceed whenever you're ready. 126 00:04:57,919 --> 00:05:01,270 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um good morning 127 00:05:01,270 --> 00:05:01,280 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um good morning 128 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,600 uh to everybody on the board and to uh 129 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,759 the respondents and uh everyone else 130 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:07,280 present. Thank you for the opportunity 131 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,160 to present um our appeal regarding the 132 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,639 2026 assessments for 38 and 64 Sunrise 133 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:16,560 Place Northeast. 134 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Um, I would like to begin by 135 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 acknowledging that the town has reviewed 136 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,120 our complaint, uh, corrected errors 137 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,840 relating to garage and suite sizes and 138 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:28,400 reduced both assessments, and we 139 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,199 appreciate those corrections. 140 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,840 However, we respectfully submit that the 141 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,600 amended assessments of 418,400 142 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,240 and 421,300 143 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,199 still do not represent market value as 144 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:47,199 of July 1st, 2025 as required under the 145 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,800 municipal government act. 146 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Um, our appeal is not about whether the 147 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,280 town is permitted to use the market 148 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:58,400 adjusted depre depreciation depreciated 149 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,120 cost model. We accept that it is an 150 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,600 approved mass appraisal methodology. Our 151 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,680 concern is that for this particular 152 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,000 group of properties, the model has 153 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,160 produced values that are inconsistent 154 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,699 with the actual market evidence. 155 00:06:12,699 --> 00:06:14,160 [snorts] 156 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,080 The stronger strongest evidence of 157 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 market value is the sale of 50 Sunrise 158 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,029 Place Northeast. 159 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:27,280 It sold for 380,000 on May the 9th, 160 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,800 2025. 161 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,360 just 7 weeks before the legislated 162 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,919 valuation date. 163 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:36,000 Because it occurred so closely to July 164 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,639 1st, it required virtually no time 165 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:41,199 adjustment. 166 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,600 Despite this, the town's own amended 167 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,360 assessment for that property is 168 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,350 approximately 416,300 169 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,560 or about 109% of its actual sale price. 170 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,720 We submit that when the best comparable 171 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,720 sale immediately preceding the valuation 172 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,639 date is assessed significantly above 173 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:02,800 what a willing buyer actually paid for 174 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,199 it, it [snorts] raises serious questions 175 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:07,120 about whether the assessment reflects 176 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,684 market value. 177 00:07:09,684 --> 00:07:11,919 [snorts] The town's disclosure also 178 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:14,080 shows that the valuation model relies 179 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,400 heavily on sales from 2022 through 2024. 180 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,039 Those older sales required time 181 00:07:21,039 --> 00:07:23,840 adjustments ranging from approximately 182 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,400 11% to 46% before being used in the 183 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,360 model. These adjustments increase nearly 184 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,440 every historical sale to values that 185 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,919 exceed what buyers have actually paid on 186 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:38,800 Sunrise Place. 187 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,479 One example illustrates this clearly. 188 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,800 The property at 32 Sunrise Place 189 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,039 Northeast sold twice. It sold for 190 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:51,840 339,500 191 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,720 in February of 2023 192 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,000 and again for 398,600 193 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,759 in April of 2024. 194 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,840 That represents actual market 195 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,189 appreciation of approximately 17.4%. 196 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:11,440 However, the town's adjustment curve 197 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,520 appears to apply an increase of roughly 198 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,879 26% over the same period. 199 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,800 In other words, the model assumes 200 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,319 significantly greater market 201 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,400 appreciation than the market itself 202 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,520 actually demonstrated. 203 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,919 Another important observation is that 204 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:30,000 seven of the eight adjusted Sunrise 205 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,200 price place sales are adjusted upwards 206 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,110 to values above the 398,600. 207 00:08:38,110 --> 00:08:41,039 [snorts] And yet 398,600 208 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,279 was the highest price ever actually paid 209 00:08:43,279 --> 00:08:45,839 for a Sunrise Place property before the 210 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:48,560 valuation date. 211 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,160 The model is therefore producing 212 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,240 adjusted values that exceed the highest 213 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,320 prices buyers were willing to pay in the 214 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,320 real market. 215 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Uh we also note that 42 Sunrise Place 216 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Northeast sold for 375,000 217 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,880 in January of 2026. 218 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,040 And while we recognize that this sale 219 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,560 occurred after the valuation date and is 220 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,080 not direct evidence of a July 1st sale 221 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,080 at 375,000, 222 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,600 sorry. Um, 223 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,440 it does provide a useful check on 224 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,279 whether the town's market trend was 225 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:28,080 realistic. If the market was continuing 226 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,000 to rise, as the town suggests, it's 227 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,880 difficult to reconcile that with a sale 228 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,120 at 375,000 229 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 only 6 months later, while assessments 230 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,519 remain above 418,000. 231 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:44,800 Taken together, these sales consistently 232 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,120 indicate a market level well below the 233 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,680 amended assessments. 234 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,200 Throughout this process, we have not 235 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,959 argued that the town's methodology is 236 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:54,560 unlawful. 237 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,040 Rather, we submit that the methodology 238 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,279 has overestimated market appreciation 239 00:09:59,279 --> 00:10:01,760 for this specific group of attached 240 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 villas. The actual market evidence does 241 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200 not support assessments in excess of 242 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,959 418,000. 243 00:10:08,959 --> 00:10:11,279 Instead, it supports a value much closer 244 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:14,399 to the observed sales immediately before 245 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:18,240 and after the valuation date. 246 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Our original complaint requested a value 247 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,680 of 360,000. 248 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,680 We acknowledge that the evidence may 249 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,760 support a value somewhat above that 250 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 amount. However, 251 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,560 the evidence before the board does not 252 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:36,000 support values of 418,400 253 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,590 and 421,300. 254 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,680 And therefore, we respectfully ask the 255 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:43,920 board to determine an assessment that is 256 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 supported by the actual market evidence 257 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,120 rather than by adjusted values that 258 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,200 exceed what purchasers have demonstrated 259 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 they are willing to pay. 260 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,829 Thank you. 261 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:05,040 » Thank you. I will now um ask the 262 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,417 respondent if they have any questions. 263 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:09,760 [snorts] 264 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,790 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I might have 265 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:12,800 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I might have 266 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,200 missed missed hearing or I guess to 267 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,959 clarify what is what is the request 268 00:11:16,959 --> 00:11:18,240 through the through the chair. What is 269 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 the requested assessment for the for the 270 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,079 two condos in Sunrise Place that being 271 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:27,279 38 Sunrise Place and 64 Sunrise Place? 272 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:30,800 When when can I continue, Madam Chair? 273 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,720 When we had originally submitted our 274 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,920 complaint, our complaint had um asked 275 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,519 for 276 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:40,880 an assessment value of 360,000. 277 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 through this process that we have gone 278 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,839 through and through what has been 279 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:48,399 clearly demonstrated to me through the 280 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:51,360 the the gathering of more information, I 281 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,880 accept that the properties are worth 282 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,959 around 380,000. 283 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:56,640 So that's now the property value that 284 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,600 we're looking to have them reduced to, 285 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,110 >> right? 286 00:12:01,110 --> 00:12:01,120 » right? 287 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,949 >> Especially considering that particular 288 00:12:02,949 --> 00:12:02,959 » Especially considering that particular 289 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:05,120 property sold seven weeks prior to the 290 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,629 actual date. 291 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:12,320 Just to confirm for the record that's 292 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,560 for both role numbers. 293 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:16,870 >> Yes, madam chair. 294 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:16,880 » Yes, madam chair. 295 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,030 >> Thank you. 296 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:19,040 » Thank you. 297 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,870 >> Um I will now ask the respondent um to 298 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:22,880 » Um I will now ask the respondent um to 299 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,440 present their case and you may proceed 300 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,200 at any time. Thank you madam chair. Uh 301 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,399 good afternoon everybody. It's a 302 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:31,600 pleasure to speak to you today to 303 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,920 respond to the complaint for 30 38 304 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,519 Sunrise Place and 64 Sunrise Place uh 305 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:41,680 previously identified 306 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:45,360 uh here. Um I do have the assessment 307 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,920 information on page 53 of So I've got 308 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,959 the we got the original assessment 309 00:12:52,959 --> 00:12:58,870 uh for 38 Sunrise Place at 430,200. 310 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,190 It's near the back. 311 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,600 » Which one you want the map? 312 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,190 >> It's near It's near the back of the in 313 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:07,200 » It's near It's near the back of the in 314 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,079 the addendum. [snorts] I've got page 53 315 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:12,240 of my submission or our submission. 316 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,869 Sorry. 317 00:13:13,869 --> 00:13:14,160 [snorts] 318 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,750 >> We don't have to go there. I can I can 319 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:15,760 » We don't have to go there. I can I can 320 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,279 just refer to it, but it's just just 321 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:18,639 that it was included just for 322 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:22,374 information. 323 00:13:22,384 --> 00:13:24,160 » [clears throat] 324 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,350 >> Yeah, it's Yeah, it'll be Yeah, it's 325 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:27,360 » Yeah, it's Yeah, it'll be Yeah, it's 326 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:36,069 near the It'll be near the end. Okay, 327 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:37,920 here we go. 328 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,590 >> Thank you. 329 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:39,600 » Thank you. 330 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,910 >> Thank you. So, this is 38. So, this is 331 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:41,920 » Thank you. So, this is 38. So, this is 332 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 the original assess original assessment. 333 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,320 So, just scroll down a page. That was 334 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,639 430,200. 335 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:50,560 And then the next page is the proposed 336 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:55,440 amendment which we'll get to at 428 337 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 uh 300 sorry 421300. 338 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,440 And then the next page is the original 339 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,320 assessment for 64 Sunrise Place at 340 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,959 426900. 341 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:08,639 And then the next page would be the 342 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:10,800 amended proposed assessment for 64 343 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:17,189 Sunrise Place Northeast at 418400. 344 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:19,360 Thank you, Joey. 345 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,440 So, we just go back to page three. 346 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:31,030 Three, I guess would be good. 347 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Although, we could start. We could 348 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,839 start. Yeah, page three is good. That'd 349 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:39,665 be awesome. Thank you. 350 00:14:39,675 --> 00:14:41,360 [laughter] Sorry. 351 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,079 So this is just just to go through our 352 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:48,160 um our submission. Uh page three just 353 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,680 identifies it's just the assessment 354 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,920 review board receipt of complaint and 355 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,279 notice of hearing. It's the same for 356 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:57,600 both properties uh as identified number 357 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,320 number 38 and 64. 358 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Uh page six is just a complaint for the 359 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,880 for the one for 38 Sunrise Place. 360 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,839 Page seven uh just shows the relative 361 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:15,199 location of uh sunrise place in High 362 00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:17,680 River. So on the top of the page, we've 363 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,920 got a a map overall map of High River 364 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,519 with the blue rectangle uh highlighted 365 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,279 representing 366 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:28,959 Sun well the area of Sunrise Place. 367 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:31,440 And then at the bottom of page seven, 368 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,760 the blue highlighted area is Sunrise 369 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,639 Place and in of itself. 370 00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:39,360 And then just north of Sunrise Place is 371 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,440 Mundy Park which [snorts] is not it's 372 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,560 not a condo. Uh but the the one area 373 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,160 immediately north of Mundy Park is 374 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Sunvil Place which will be discussed 375 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,639 will be included in this presentation. 376 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,000 And then immediately west of Sun Sunvil 377 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Place is uh Sunville Crescent uh which 378 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,160 are similar units just for information. 379 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 So the highlighted areas, Sunrise Place 380 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,680 where uh in the northeast and then on 381 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,440 page eight 382 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,560 shows the relative location of uh number 383 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,360 38 Sunrise Place on um the east side of 384 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,240 that development and 64 almost 385 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,550 immediately across the way. 386 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 I think it's turning to page page nine. 387 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Uh the following table shows the factual 388 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,720 information regarding these two 389 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,320 properties. Um and we'll get into the 390 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,720 I'll discuss the legal information in a 391 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,079 minute. Uh so the the top of it shows 392 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:44,959 the the site area 124.9 for both and the 393 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:47,920 site and in in square feet it shows that 394 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,040 should be square feet sorry at 1344 ft 395 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,920 for both units. That's the total size 396 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,480 with the respective suite size of number 397 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,240 38 being originally at 1,060 with the 398 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,920 garage of 274 for a total of 1334. 399 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,600 And then for number 64 the sweet size on 400 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,480 the original assessment is 1,037 with a 401 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,280 garage at 307 again with the total at 402 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,360 1344. 403 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:16,959 The original assessment of third number 404 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:19,600 38 is 43200 405 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,120 and of 64 is 426,900 406 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:26,400 with the relative uh value per square 407 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,880 foot shown at the bottom. 408 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,039 So this is the assessment information 409 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,440 and property information used for the 410 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,919 2025 assessment. So 411 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:41,200 reflecting a value as of July 1, 2025, 412 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,387 physical condition as of December 31st. 413 00:17:44,387 --> 00:17:46,630 [snorts] 414 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,960 So page 10, uh this some pictures of 32 415 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,120 sunrise place includes included for 416 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:56,880 information. So top of page 32 is a a 417 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,799 picture street side of 32 Sunrise Place 418 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,520 shows the building with a single car 419 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 garage. same as on the bottom just with 420 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,799 a side view as well. The at the photo at 421 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:12,000 the top of page 11 shows uh the suite 422 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,919 from behind looking toward the front 423 00:18:13,919 --> 00:18:17,440 door. Uh at the bottom of page 11 shows 424 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,559 the kitchen and the living area relative 425 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:22,720 uh to each other. 426 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,160 Page 12 shows a picture of the kitchen. 427 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,240 Uh bottom of page 12 shows a kitchen 428 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,110 from the living from the living room. 429 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:37,520 at bottom at top of page 13 shows um the 430 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,320 master suite and the bottom of page 13 431 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,480 is the bedroom I mean the bathroom 432 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,080 I believe that's the the on suite 433 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,480 and on page top of page 14 we have the 434 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,640 additional bathroom and then we have the 435 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,270 laundry room at the bottom of page 14 436 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,440 uh top of page 15 we show the back of um 437 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,080 this unit and again just the back and 438 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,520 the side of the unit on page the bottom 439 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,193 of page 15. 440 00:19:10,193 --> 00:19:10,720 [clears throat] 441 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,039 So um 442 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:15,919 upon uh reviewing uh the inquiry from 443 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:20,240 the owner uh regarding the suite um we 444 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,559 were we were brought to our attention 445 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,679 that we we needed to check the size of 446 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,000 the unit relative to the sizes of the 447 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,679 garage. 448 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:31,600 Um for this for this particular 449 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,400 development there are let me see I think 450 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,720 there's one two one two three four five 451 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,840 six seven condo plans so built-in stages 452 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,120 and and uh we've were able to obtain the 453 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,600 blueprints also. 454 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,880 So up and across the top we've got the 455 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,000 roll, the address, the legal. This is 456 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,360 the condo plan total me squared. And 457 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,480 then the in the pink area there that is 458 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,039 the original garage size, original sweep 459 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,160 size and original totals post that we 460 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,240 used for the 2026 461 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,799 assessment uh that was mailed. And then 462 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,039 for the green areas, so the condo plan 463 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:23,280 total, uh, that's the the total size. 464 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,880 And then we have the amended garage 465 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,559 size. 466 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,919 And then the amended suite size. So the 467 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:33,120 garages for these suites are not all 468 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:34,720 identical. They're just a little bit 469 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,679 different in some situations, but 470 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:41,039 there's not much in it. So to do this 471 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,200 proper, all the blueprints are pulled 472 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,000 and we we've adjusted um the suite size 473 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480 and the grass size so that they're 474 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,400 they're proper. The garages aren't all 475 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,840 identical, but we looked at them all 476 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,600 specifically and made the appropriate 477 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,679 adjustment. So, there's quite a few 478 00:20:57,679 --> 00:20:59,520 sweets scenarios, but if we're going to 479 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,559 do this for the for the um appeal, it's 480 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:04,400 perfect opportunity to do it for the 481 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,400 rest of for next year and make sure uh 482 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,360 we start off with on on um for a clean 483 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,760 slate next year. Again, this this 484 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 development was built uh what's the 485 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,000 original age? 486 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,110 >> 2012, I believe. 487 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:19,120 » 2012, I believe. 488 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,630 >> 2012. 489 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:20,640 » 2012. 490 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,080 So in back in the day back, you know, 491 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,159 there are different ways to do to do uh 492 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:28,080 assess condos. 493 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Uh we typically we use a schedule. I 494 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,200 don't have any of the condo plans 495 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,440 printed, but typically on a condo plan, 496 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760 it comes with a schedule of sizes for 497 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,159 the condo plan and it just shows a 498 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:42,480 footprint and it doesn't show where the 499 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,280 garage walls are. Like it could be it 500 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600 could be anywhere. So that's why we had 501 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 to refer to the blueprints to make sure 502 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,280 that we we get the size of the suite 503 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,159 proper because the garage isn't such a 504 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:57,840 big deal cuz it's just a garage. It 505 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,120 doesn't have a great value per square 506 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,760 foot. But for the suite, we we're 507 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,520 showing that the we're showing a value 508 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,480 in the 400 $400 range a square foot. So 509 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 for out five 10 or 15 square ft makes a 510 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 significant difference. So it's really 511 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,840 important to get that get the sizes 512 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,159 correct especially for the suite. So, 513 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:17,840 we've been through each of these. We've 514 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,799 we've we've gleaned the blueprints to 515 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:22,400 make sure these sizes are correct. I'd 516 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,960 be happy to talk if if if uh the 517 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,320 complainant has any questions about 518 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,799 sizes down the road. Happy to or anybody 519 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:31,039 has questions about how those sizes are 520 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:32,720 determined. We can happy to happy to 521 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,400 review that with them as well. But we 522 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,080 did our due diligence to make sure we're 523 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,600 starting on a clean slate here, 524 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,799 especially if we're talking about an 525 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:40,960 amended assessment. 526 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,799 Foundation of assessment is having 527 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,880 correct data. So we always endeavor to 528 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,200 do to do that uh to the best of our 529 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,039 ability. 530 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:52,240 So So just to show you then for number 531 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,080 38 Sunrise Place the overall condo the 532 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,120 overall size didn't change but the but 533 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,200 the this slightly changed the garage the 534 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,480 suite went from 1,60 to,62 535 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200 the garage went from 274 to 273 for 536 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,480 number 38. For number 64, the overall 537 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,039 size didn't change, but the size of the 538 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:16,720 suite did. It would change from 1334 539 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,640 uh square feet to 1049 and the garage 540 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,200 changed from 262 to 286. So number 64 541 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,950 changed quite a bit, but not for 38. 542 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Uh on page 17, this gives shows the 543 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,320 salient facts as were presented before. 544 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,280 showing the original 2025 assessment and 545 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,039 the respective suite and garage sizes 546 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,760 for each of those in that that case and 547 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,159 the assessment. And then highlighted in 548 00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:51,200 red at the bottom of this of the of this 549 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840 uh information is the amended size of 550 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,400 the suite and the garage 551 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,080 for an amended uh total assessment for 552 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,000 421300 for number 38 553 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,760 and 418400 for number 64. So the 554 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,880 respective value per square foot is 3.97 555 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,400 a square foot for number 38 and 399 for 556 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,269 number 64. 557 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,080 So the following pages so pages 18 558 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,596 through to [cough] 559 00:24:24,596 --> 00:24:26,000 [snorts and clears throat] 22 is 560 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320 legislation specific to assessment. The 561 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,640 process of assessment is fairly heavily 562 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,080 regulated and for good reason. um to 563 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,840 make sure the assessments are calculated 564 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,159 consistently not only within the town 565 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:40,159 high river and following legislation but 566 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:42,320 throughout the province. [snorts] Uh 567 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,159 some of the main um uh items that we we 568 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:48,240 touched upon today would be uh the 569 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,640 second uh 570 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,520 uh item on page 16 from the top. It 571 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600 reflects that that the assessment must 572 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,360 reflect the condition of the property as 573 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,840 of December 31st. 574 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320 Um the second column from second row 575 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,039 from the bottom market value is our is 576 00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:06,400 our the standard with which the 577 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520 assessments have to adhere to. Um market 578 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,559 value is defined as as what might be 579 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,720 expected to the what might be expected 580 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,480 to realize if a property is sold on the 581 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,480 open market by a willing [clears throat] 582 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,279 seller to a willing buyer. And at the 583 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,840 bottom of this page, a pro an assessment 584 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,159 of a property based on market value for 585 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:28,880 assessment purposes must be prepared 586 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,520 using mass appraisal. Must be an 587 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,960 estimate of the value of the fee simple 588 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,760 estate in a property and must reflect 589 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,159 typical market conditions for properties 590 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:40,320 similar to that property not identical 591 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000 to the property but similar to the 592 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,029 property. 593 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,600 Um the process of assessment use is um 594 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520 mass appraisal. 595 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,200 So which means the process of preparing 596 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,720 assessment for a group of properties 597 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720 using standard methods methods and 598 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,640 common data and allowing for statistical 599 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,120 testing. So an assessment of property 600 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,279 for market value which is the discussion 601 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,320 of this appeal today. The assessment 602 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,080 prepared for the 2025 assessment and in 603 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 the in the amended assessment proposed 604 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,080 is prepared um based on property market 605 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,919 value using mass appraisal not actual 606 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:20,720 sales or pinpointed values but it's 607 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,760 prepared using mass appraisal and the fe 608 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,559 simplest state of property and must 609 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,559 reflect typical market conditions 610 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,880 similar to the property. So the 611 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 assessment is in every case for the 612 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,559 models is always the model is represents 613 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:43,029 the value for a group of properties. 614 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:44,880 Uh the quality standards are required to 615 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,679 adhere to as it's a third row from the 616 00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:50,159 bottom. Uh very heavily regulated. These 617 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:52,000 quality standards must be met when we 618 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,640 submit uh the assessment information to 619 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,960 the prop to the province. on 620 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,039 page. 621 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:07,269 Uh it doesn't say that just a minute. 622 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,279 Um I can't find it, but it says um uh 623 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,760 models must be met and must and it's a 624 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,240 statistical test. So the statistical 625 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240 test for residential assessments must be 626 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,400 between 0.95 and 1.05 or 95 to 105%. 627 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,559 So the valuation model for a group of 628 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,840 properties must the sales a sales to 629 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,159 assessment ratio median sales to 630 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,799 assessment ratio for 631 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,799 uh for the assessments in that group 632 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:45,750 must be within that quality range. 633 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 It's a minute and there is at the top. 634 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,039 So the valuation date, this is also an 635 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,600 important uh point that any assessment 636 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,200 prepared in accordance with the act must 637 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,399 be an estimate of the value of a 638 00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:58,559 property on July one of the of the 639 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,159 assessment year. So that's the year 640 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,360 before the tax year and that's July 1, 641 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,000 2025. 642 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,600 And that's different from an an 643 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,039 appraisal too because the appraisal can 644 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,520 be any specific date. But for assessment 645 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,679 is always July 1 of the year before the 646 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:17,269 tax year. 647 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,799 Just turning to page 23. Uh just to just 648 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,559 explain at the top data collection and 649 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,960 verification that every every 650 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,039 municipality in Alberta following 651 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,480 regulations must must review and and um 652 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720 the assessments of properties in a town 653 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,840 every 5 years just to make sure we um we 654 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,000 keep on top of any property changes, 655 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 renovations or permitted development. 656 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480 That's so there's a reinspection cycle 657 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960 that helps to make sure that we the data 658 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,039 is up to date and correct. Then just the 659 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:48,960 bottom part there is just assumptions 660 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,630 and limiting conditions. [clears throat] 661 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600 On page 24 speaks to the portions to 662 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,720 value for residential assessments. The 663 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880 appropriate assessment method is a 664 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,960 direct comparison approach or sometimes 665 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 called the sales comparison approach. 666 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840 It's defined as for the for the 667 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,600 valuation of residential properties in 668 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,919 high river. The direct comparison 669 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:13,919 approach is used. This method of 670 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,240 valuation determines a property's value 671 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,960 by comparing it to similar recently sold 672 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 properties in the same geographic area. 673 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Again, it says similar properties, not 674 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,470 identical properties. 675 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,240 So, um, page 25 speaks to the difference 676 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,559 between single property appraisal and 677 00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,279 mass appraisal. So, single property 678 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,559 appraisal is a valuation of one property 679 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,039 for many different purposes. 680 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,360 It uses the valuation the valuation date 681 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,240 is determined by the appraiser. So it 682 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,200 could be any date. 683 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Uh typically in an appraisal uh three to 684 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,799 five comparable sales are reviewed as 685 00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,520 close in location, style, quality and 686 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,960 construction to the subject property as 687 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960 possible to arrive at an estimate of 688 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,960 value based on those comparables used. 689 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,799 Uh so it's different to mass appraisal. 690 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,120 A mass mass appraisal is a valuation of 691 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,679 an entire group of property for taxation 692 00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:17,279 purposes. 693 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,559 The valuation date is July 1st condition 694 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,520 um [snorts] July the 1st with the 695 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,159 condition of the property uh as of 696 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:28,080 December 31st in the year preceding the 697 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,919 tax year. 698 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:32,240 Evaluation models is developed for each 699 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,880 property group with similar style and 700 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 quality of construction. 701 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120 An equitable and consistent estimate of 702 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,399 values derived for each property group 703 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:44,399 value valuation model is statistically 704 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:46,000 tested for accuracy there. That's what I 705 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,320 want was looking for. And after meeting 706 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,000 required provincial qualities testing is 707 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,159 submitted to ASID. So acid is the 708 00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:56,480 overlying umbrella in Alberta um through 709 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,039 municipal affairs and it must pass those 710 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,080 quality standards before and to be to be 711 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,840 um to go through two stages of audit and 712 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,559 uh then town can be approved to use that 713 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,640 assessment for the assessment notices. 714 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,520 on page 26 is just an explanation of the 715 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,159 mass appraisal process. 716 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:20,799 Um how how the how the assessment models 717 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,279 are tested is to take the assessment 718 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,200 divided by a selling price and that 719 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880 gives us an assessment to sales ratio 720 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,399 which we we call as the ASR. 721 00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:32,080 So through the stratification of similar 722 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720 properties and the respective sales 723 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640 value models are developed with the 724 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,320 resulting assessed values being required 725 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960 to meet that regulated quality standard 726 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,360 of 0.9 of 95% to 105%. 727 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Typically um [clears throat] in the town 728 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,919 high river we usually aim for 98%. If we 729 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,960 if we if we go for the 95% it's really 730 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,919 close uh to the bottom of the valuation 731 00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:00,960 scale and it it doesn't really matter so 732 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,880 long as it's a consistent process. We 733 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,919 could develop an assessment at 105% and 734 00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:07,840 for the distribution of the taxes for 735 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080 assessment purposes the taxes wouldn't 736 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240 change because the level of assessment 737 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240 remains consistent. 738 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,720 But we always go and it's if we all go 739 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,760 for 98% if we went for 100% it's a 740 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,919 harder assessment to to present. 741 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:28,080 So in High River from December uh from 742 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,360 as of December 31st, 2025 743 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,720 of the 300 1324 condo properties in 744 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,200 town, there were 381 sales from July 745 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,880 1,22 746 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,159 to well June, yeah, July 1, 2022 to June 747 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:46,799 30th, 2025. 748 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,840 So this is all of the condo sales. This 749 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,399 is just showing us an example of how the 750 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:54,799 assessment will look and how this how 751 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,919 meets quality standard. 752 00:32:57,919 --> 00:32:59,760 These sales were verified as suitable 753 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,760 indicators of value with respective 754 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440 valuation models being developed and 755 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600 statistically tested with the overall 756 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600 results as follows. 757 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Each of the red bars below represents a 758 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320 respective assessment divided by a 759 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,679 selling price of each sale with the 760 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:18,000 overall ASR shown with the yellow arrow 761 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,240 there uh at 90 98.1% 762 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,760 mean required provincial quality 763 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,399 standard. Now this these sales are all 764 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:31,600 the condos. So 1324 condos 381 sales 765 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,919 these all these sales represent all the 766 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,320 groups. It's just shown here is to show 767 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,279 you how the the model process works. 768 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:40,799 This is this is not how we developed the 769 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,200 model. It's just illustrative. 770 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240 But it does show that for all all of the 771 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,399 con all of those sales from each of the 772 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:51,600 respective model groups, it still it 773 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,399 meets a quality standard. 774 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,440 On page 27 on the table at the top of 775 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,559 the page, the title titled ratio versus 776 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,840 adjusted selling price. The line the 777 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,320 purple line there is represents the 778 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,359 assessment at 98%. You'll see there are 779 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:12,079 the distribution of the sales which is 780 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,079 each of these red dots represents the 781 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,200 assessment divided by a selling price of 782 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560 each of the three each of the 381 sales. 783 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,320 So it shows a distribution of those 784 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,800 sales around the assessment. 785 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,679 So that's what mass appraisal is is 786 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,800 intended to show or develop a value 787 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,720 model that re represents a typical 788 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,440 market or we call that the median market 789 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,919 the middle of the market. So obviously 790 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:40,240 some assessments will be higher than the 791 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:41,760 higher than the selling price and some 792 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,520 will be lower but the assessment 793 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399 reflects the middle of the market 794 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:47,919 and the table at the bottom just shows 795 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,200 the relationship between the assessment 796 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,919 and the selling price. And then the the 797 00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:54,399 the width the width of the distribution 798 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:56,480 those red dots is called the coefficient 799 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960 of dispersion. It just shows that the 800 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 range and actually that's a really 801 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,599 important point to make because the 802 00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,160 assessment represents a range of value 803 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,680 not the value. So that's so for 804 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,119 assessment purposes the maximum cood can 805 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,320 be 15. That's quite a widespread. So 806 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560 regulation states for for this kind of 807 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,240 assessment should be about 8. 808 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,320 So it's a fairly tight range. But that 809 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,240 said, we're required to be within 95 and 810 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,040 105. So that's a range. And then within 811 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,640 each group, there's also a range. So 812 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200 when references are made to a specific 813 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,800 sale at a specific time, it's just one 814 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,400 sale within a range. It doesn't refresh. 815 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,720 If the sale is higher lower than the 816 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,839 assessment, well, it's a range and we 817 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:51,200 need to calculate when you have a number 818 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680 of sales, you can find out where it is. 819 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,880 But you've only got one sale does we 820 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,320 don't know where it is in the range. So 821 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,160 we can only assume that it's in the 822 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,720 range. But when we build the models, we 823 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,760 include all the sales. So it with the 824 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,400 assessment reflecting the middle. So one 825 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,359 sale doesn't reflect a model is not we 826 00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:15,599 we can't use one sale for a model 827 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,400 even if even if uh there is only one 828 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,760 sale whether it's a residential group or 829 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,240 condo group or non-res one sale doesn't 830 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,800 make a market it's a it gives you an 831 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,320 idea where where it might sit but for 832 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,880 mass appraisal process we're required to 833 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200 model everything by by range and it's 834 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,680 statistically tested that's just what we 835 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,640 So all properties in town. 836 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,800 So on page 28 837 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,280 um because the valuation date is July 1, 838 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,200 2025. 839 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,400 So sales because we use a range of sales 840 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 in the for instance city of Calgary or 841 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,359 even Cochran or Edri they'll use just 842 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:59,520 one year's worth of sales because they 843 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,440 got loads of sales because hundreds of 844 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,400 sales but in a small town like how river 845 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,320 we still struggle with getting enough 846 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,960 sales of of certain groups right the 847 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,640 more sales we have the more confidence 848 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,800 we have in in in the um appropriate 849 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,280 value value range of of specific 850 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,400 property types. So this graph included 851 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,280 on page 28, this is what we call our 852 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,599 time adjust. It's just a graphical 853 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,240 representation of the change in value 854 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,119 over time specifically for condos from 855 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,680 July 2022 to June 2025. 856 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,359 So obviously up to 2023 the the market's 857 00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:43,440 pretty flat. or postcoid but from 2023 858 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,440 through these these different time 859 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,599 periods the markets increased and it 860 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,760 kind of tapered off in December 24. 861 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,839 So this is developed it's it's a method 862 00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:58,079 that we used it's uh from similar so the 863 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,000 same property that sells twice or 864 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,079 similar properties that sell twice 865 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,560 during that time period. So it's a very 866 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,599 it's a very uh stringent process to 867 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,040 develop the time adjustment. is actually 868 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,280 audited by the provincial government and 869 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200 has to be approved before we can use it 870 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,920 for valuation purposes. So as we're 871 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,280 going through this presentation, you'll 872 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,599 hear us talk about the selling price and 873 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,160 then the time adjusted selling price. So 874 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,280 a property sells say in January 2024, 875 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359 that's the selling price and then the 876 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:29,520 distance between the top of that graph 877 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,200 and the red line is the adjustment. So 878 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,320 all sales when how whenever they occur 879 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200 along this line they are all adjusted in 880 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200 the in the same manner using a 881 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,000 consistent method. 882 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,920 And an important note the time 883 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,839 adjustment is determined before the 884 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:50,720 determination of each specific model. So 885 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:53,680 this isn't the modeling process. This 886 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,320 just ch this just suggests the the 887 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,880 selling price the the change in value 888 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,400 over time. That's what this does. 889 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,440 So on page 29, this is we when we submit 890 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,640 our um assessment role to the provision 891 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,000 government through assets. This is to 892 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,240 Alberta Municipal Affairs. It has to 893 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,640 pass two stages of audit to meet the 894 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,160 quality standards as previously 895 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,680 mentioned. 896 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,960 So we're talking about the residential 897 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,520 uh quality standard. So our overall 898 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000 residential quality standard is uh that 899 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,599 we met is 98.4%. So it passes the 900 00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:34,720 required standard for audit and this is 901 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,240 once was actually signed off by audit 902 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,280 here at April 13th 2026 Michael Lavager 903 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,920 being our our auditor at that time. 904 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,200 So on page 30 905 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,280 um in a review of the assessments in um 906 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,480 Sunrise Place uh with the complainant 907 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,800 and um uh and reviewing all of those 908 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,240 properties and correcting the sizes 909 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,800 um it made us aware of like typically 910 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,680 for condos we'll develop models specific 911 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,000 to each condo. So Sunrise Place would 912 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,320 have its own model. Sunrise Crescent 913 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,079 would have its own valley model and so 914 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,400 would Sunvil Place. 915 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,640 But uh other appeals and the information 916 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680 brought up by by Paul the complainant 917 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,960 has brought to light that these these 918 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,079 three uh condo developments Sunville 919 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:34,320 Place, Sunville Crescent, and Sunrise 920 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,119 um with the with with condors as we've 921 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,040 described for Sunrise Place with the 922 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,440 pictures shown on pages 10 through 15, 923 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520 they're very similar. They're they're 924 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,760 about 1,030,60 925 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,400 ft² with a single car garage and they're 926 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,040 very they're very much the same. 927 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,760 So in the review of these condo 928 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,760 developments with the property owners 929 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,680 through the inquiry period through this 930 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,760 appeal process 931 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,240 um it seemed appropriate to combine 932 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,280 these three condo communities into one 933 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,200 value model 934 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,079 when by doing so we've we now have um 935 00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,520 there's 20 23 sales of units similar to 936 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,760 the subject property or the two subject 937 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,280 properties. 938 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Um so these 23 hills represent 29% of 79 939 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,640 similar properties within these three 940 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,280 communities and these are shown below. 941 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,560 So all the 29 these 23 sales are shown 942 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,960 by those the red respective red bars uh 943 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,720 representing the assessment to sales 944 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,240 ratio 945 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,520 with the overall result being 96.8%. 946 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,000 So this value model passes quality 947 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,839 standard. 948 00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:52,319 So the amended assessments as proposed 949 00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:55,119 is determined from the correction of the 950 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,800 sizes and the re rerunning of the model 951 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,480 using all three communities. 952 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,680 And it's the the assessor our our it's 953 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,400 our um not belief but it we believe the 954 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,599 the assessment is better representation 955 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,319 now in communicating with the 956 00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,720 complainant and other inquiries. This is 957 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,960 more representative of the of the market 958 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,319 of these properties. 959 00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:26,960 Um on page 31 it just shows the 960 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,440 dispersion of the respective sales. So 961 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,119 that that red line rep is about 96%. 962 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:36,720 So of those 29 sales some are above the 963 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,790 assessment and some are below. 964 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,319 So the development and use of the value 965 00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:43,839 model of these similar properties within 966 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:45,359 these communities results in a 967 00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:47,839 consistent and equitable assessment and 968 00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:51,599 also meeting required quality standards. 969 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:54,319 So on page 32 970 00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:56,319 this shows 971 00:42:56,319 --> 00:42:59,760 uh all of the sales within that we have 972 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,640 from July 122 to June 30th 25 in sunrise 973 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,599 place. So there are nine altogether. 974 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,200 So we'll just pick that top one. Um he'd 975 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,400 sold 17th of April 2024 976 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960 for 3986. 977 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,640 The time just selling price for this 978 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,720 property is 4426. 979 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,319 The current assessment of 4184. 980 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:29,440 Um now the the complainant did mention 981 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,960 this particular sale. So and it did sell 982 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,480 twice. 983 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,359 So this is the latter sale. This is the 984 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:41,359 last sale in 24. Right immediately below 985 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:44,160 this, this is the first time it sold. So 986 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,599 it sold in the 28th of February 23 for 987 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,359 3395. 988 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:52,960 That time adjusted value is 4764 989 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,640 when the assessment the amended 990 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520 assessment is 4184. 991 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560 So the first sale, the first one is at 992 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,240 88%. 993 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:05,440 with the second one being 95. So in both 994 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,480 cases the assessment to sales ratio is 995 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,960 less than 100. 996 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,440 Uh that's just the ones that sold twice. 997 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,440 Um so each this assessment to sales 998 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,119 ratio is a range. Uh and if you go to 999 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,680 page 34 1000 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,000 those red bars each of these red bars 1001 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,760 represents each of those sales. So there 1002 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,760 are nine. 1003 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,200 So you see 80 a little less than 80 for 1004 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,319 the third one is about 90 fourth one is 1005 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:40,560 85 let's say and there's a range so the 1006 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359 overall median assessment to sales ratio 1007 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:46,319 is 94.5 1008 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,160 if we just look at the assessment to 1009 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,359 sales ratio in sunrise place regarding 1010 00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:54,560 the amended assessment. 1011 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,680 So, we've we've reviewed every one of 1012 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,200 these sales and tested to make sure 1013 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,240 they're arms length. We've applied the 1014 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,720 time adjustment to these condo condo 1015 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,440 sales like every other condo like all 1016 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,800 the other 381 1017 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,680 sales which present which gave us on 1018 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,880 page 26 which gave us an overall assess 1019 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,920 assessment to sales ratio 98%. 1020 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,560 So it shows that it's being it's that 1021 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,160 the it's um an appropriate time 1022 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,920 adjustment. Um [clears throat] 1023 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,150 let's see here. 1024 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,720 So if if uh these assessment sales 1025 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,520 ratios were used with sun sunrise place 1026 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,920 the model would be 94.5. It's it 1027 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,720 wouldn't pass a on its own because it's 1028 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,560 less than 95%. 1029 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,280 But when we combine it with with the 1030 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,280 overall modeling of Sunrise, Sunrise uh 1031 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,000 place, Sunville Crescent, and Sunvil 1032 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,800 Place, the value and that's on page 1033 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,760 page 30, we get an overall assessment of 1034 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,390 sales ratio of 96.8%. 1035 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,640 Uh and just for information also on page 1036 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,319 32 1037 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:20,480 if we look at uh 38 Sunrise Place um it 1038 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,800 shows the role the address the legal 1039 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,839 year your built and building size. So 1040 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:30,720 1,62 ft um assessment per square foot is 1041 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,640 at 396. 1042 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,920 So with this model we've amended model 1043 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,560 we're applying to these units 1044 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,200 uh it's 396 for 38 sunrise place 398 for 1045 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,440 32 1046 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,280 398 well again it's the same one 50 is 1047 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,640 50 sunrise place is 391 a square foot 34 1048 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,200 sunrise place is 391 they're all within 1049 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,599 a very consistent value per square foot 1050 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,079 all being valued the same way with the 1051 00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:03,760 model. It's statistically tested as 1052 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,550 passing quality standard. 1053 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960 On page 35, 1054 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,839 this shows comparable sales between the 1055 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:16,560 communities of Sunville Place Northeast, 1056 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,400 Sunville, Sunville Crescent Northeast, 1057 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,359 and Sunrise Place Northeast. So, we have 1058 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:26,319 Tus Sunvil Place at um 397 a square 1059 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:30,400 foot. We got Sunville Crescent at 397 a 1060 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,200 square foot. All similar sized units. 1061 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,160 The top one's,062. 1062 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,319 Um 702 is 1,036 square feet. It's at 397 1063 00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:46,240 a square foot. 14 Sunrise Place is 1,57 1064 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,480 ft at 396 per square foot. And 32 1065 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,560 Sunrise Place 1066 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,960 is 1,049 ft at 398 ft². So you can see 1067 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,520 that with this new valuation model is 1068 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,720 consistency applied using a value model 1069 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,800 that would that passes required 1070 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,520 provincial standard as of July 1, 2025. 1071 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,839 These assessments are all all have 1072 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:13,599 consistent 1073 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,319 um values per square foot. 1074 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:20,000 Well, these are the sales, sorry. 1075 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,160 And then on page 36, this shows 1076 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,920 comparable assessments between each of 1077 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,480 those communities with the yellow arrow 1078 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960 representing the value per square foot. 1079 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,520 So within a very close tight close 1080 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,280 range. So these are comparable 1081 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,960 assessments within Sunville Place, 1082 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,160 Sunrise Place and Sunville Crescent 1083 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160 showing consistent 1084 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,240 consistent assessments 1085 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:48,319 or a consistent application of the model 1086 00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:50,000 uh for consistent and equitable 1087 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,030 assessment. 1088 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,119 On page 37, 1089 00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:57,599 um the the chart at the bottom of this 1090 00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,280 page that was sent without with 1091 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520 everyone's assessment notices reflects 1092 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,440 the the overall median assessment change 1093 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,520 uh from 2024 to 2025. So this would be 1094 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,800 the July the July 1 median overall 1095 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,440 change in each of these condominium 1096 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,160 developments. So in Sunrise, Sunville 1097 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,960 Place, Sunrise Place and Sunvil, the 1098 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,800 median assessment in 2024 was 393750 1099 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,040 and the median assessment in 2025 was 1100 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,559 42350 1101 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,359 and that also being consistent with the 1102 00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:35,680 with the proposed amended assessment and 1103 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,200 their respective values per square foot. 1104 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,920 So to conclude, upon the review of the 1105 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,559 Sunrise Place Northeast condos during 1106 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,520 the 2026 inquiry period, it became 1107 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,119 evident that there were historic data 1108 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,119 errors in the calculation of the 2025 1109 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,520 assessment, specifically related to the 1110 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,480 sizes of the condo suite and the garage. 1111 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,480 Upon review of all the condo plans and 1112 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,240 blueprints specific to the Sunrise 1113 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,720 development, corrections were made as 1114 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,280 included in the submission. Originally 1115 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,880 and typically value models for all 1116 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,960 condos are specific to each condo 1117 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,040 development. However, through 1118 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,040 discussions with property owners and 1119 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440 upon review of comparable sales and 1120 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,839 similar properties within Sunrise Place, 1121 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,000 Sunville Crescent, and Sunville Place, 1122 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000 it appeared appropriate to develop a 1123 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,680 single value model for the similar 1124 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,079 sidebyside conds in each of these 1125 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,160 locations. 1126 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,760 The resulting value model meets the 1127 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,599 required provincial quality standards 1128 00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,280 and is shown to be consistent and 1129 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,119 equitable within these three similar 1130 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,920 areas and moving forward will be our 1131 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,520 standard approach to the assessment of 1132 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,400 these condos. It is a recommendation of 1133 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,599 the assessor that the amended 1134 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,839 assessments of the properties identified 1135 00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:50,160 in this submission as shown in page 17. 1136 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640 I better check that. There they are uh 1137 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,760 are used in a 2025 assessment year. 1138 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,200 Thank you, Madam Chair. 1139 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,630 >> Thank you. Uh, complainant, you may ask 1140 00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:02,640 » Thank you. Uh, complainant, you may ask 1141 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,599 any questions now. 1142 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,430 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, thank you, 1143 00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:07,440 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, thank you, 1144 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,880 Stuart. Um, 1145 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,720 I think Stuart's done a good job, as he 1146 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,240 did this morning, of explaining the 1147 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,559 process that the town has gone through 1148 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:20,160 to uh um 1149 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,000 proceed with the model and and come out 1150 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,160 with a with a valuation on these 1151 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800 properties. And um what what I can't 1152 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,839 fathom and can't understand [snorts] is 1153 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:31,599 how 1154 00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:35,200 um none of the values that are on um 1155 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,160 these assessments actually equate to 1156 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,000 sales values within these three 1157 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,040 communities that he's talking about. And 1158 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,800 and I think we've established that these 1159 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,720 three communities are at least similar. 1160 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,240 They're not they're not identical, but 1161 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,800 they're at least similar. Um, and if if 1162 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,526 I can refer you to page 46. 1163 00:51:56,526 --> 00:52:06,390 [snorts] 1164 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,000 » Sorry, I just want to confirm. Is that 1165 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,960 page 46 within your 1166 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,630 >> No, it's it's within the submission the 1167 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:12,640 » No, it's it's within the submission the 1168 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,760 the um respondents documentation. 1169 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,589 Would 1170 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:22,559 that be this page? 1171 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:23,589 >> That would be that page. Yeah. 1172 00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:23,599 » That would be that page. Yeah. 1173 00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,336 >> Okay. Let me just see if I can rotate 1174 00:52:25,336 --> 00:52:25,346 » Okay. Let me just see if I can rotate 1175 00:52:25,346 --> 00:52:26,640 [clears throat] it. 1176 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,470 >> Obviously, I don't have access to all of 1177 00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:28,480 » Obviously, I don't have access to all of 1178 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,160 the data like the town has. So, I was 1179 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,559 only able to collect certain data from 1180 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,760 various um residents that I'm 1181 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,160 representing for the Sunil properties, 1182 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,720 but I do know them for Sunrise, which is 1183 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,119 the ones that I own personally. 1184 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:47,616 um and the tax assessments there even 1185 00:52:47,616 --> 00:52:50,400 [clears throat] for 2025 1186 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,000 um 1187 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,476 ne never have we achieved those sales um 1188 00:52:55,476 --> 00:52:56,720 [clears throat] 1189 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,480 um in in any of these three areas that 1190 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,960 we're talking about. So, if you look I 1191 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,720 know it's all good. Um, you need to be 1192 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,720 looking at page 47 as well, which 1193 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,960 highlights all of the sales that I was 1194 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680 able to obtain off the MLS 1195 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,720 um for these three areas. Sunrise uh 1196 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,960 place, Sunvil Place, and Sunvil Cresant, 1197 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,359 which are the three areas that Stuart 1198 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:26,000 has um determined that we're grouping 1199 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,960 together now for an evaluation purpose. 1200 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,119 none of the sales since 2022 have ever 1201 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:33,359 reached the assessment prices that he's 1202 00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:36,640 now saying. Um, their model has has 1203 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,319 calculated and even even the sales that 1204 00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:43,040 have occurred since then haven't reached 1205 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,960 those values either as I made in my 1206 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,920 opening statement. Um what what I'd like 1207 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,800 to know is 1208 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,480 it's great that we have these models 1209 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,240 that we follow and that are legislated 1210 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,480 but is there any type of calibration 1211 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,160 done after those models have have come 1212 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,240 up with the calculation to look at the 1213 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:07,119 actual sales that are taking place 1214 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,680 because in these three communities I 1215 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,079 can't see that any calibration will have 1216 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,200 been done because none of these sales um 1217 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200 are anywhere close to those values that 1218 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,510 have now been determined. 1219 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,040 So that's my question. Has there been 1220 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,440 any calibration done after the model has 1221 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440 been done? And I know that, you know, 1222 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,880 you've got to meet these legislative 1223 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,240 requirements, but the reality is does 1224 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,400 this model represent market value? 1225 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,630 That's what we're trying to establish. 1226 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,559 Thank Thank you u the complaint. Thank 1227 00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,240 you, Madam Chair. Uh to answer the 1228 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,319 question, I'll I'll kind of answer with 1229 00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:46,400 an example. So let's say we have these 1230 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960 three communities and then we have let's 1231 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,520 say there were no sales in Sunvil Place, 1232 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,440 zero sales. 1233 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,280 So and they're all we've identified 1234 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,800 there as the complaint says they're all 1235 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,640 similar properties. So there are no 1236 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,200 sales in one of these communities. Do we 1237 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,760 say do we say well [snorts] 1238 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,240 they're not what are we going to use if 1239 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,680 there's no sales? We have so that the 1240 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,319 the value for that similar community 1241 00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:14,240 comes from the sales in the other 1242 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,480 properties. the models the model sales 1243 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,440 are coming from the other two 1244 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,000 communities. We use those 1245 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,079 so that we can apply a consistent 1246 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,079 equitable value on those properties that 1247 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:27,520 don't sell. And in in a nutshell, that's 1248 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,720 what assessment does. We take sales of 1249 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,400 properties. We call them indicators of 1250 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,599 value. We develop a value model process 1251 00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,000 for the properties that sell. It's 1252 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,280 statistically tested. Does it reflect 1253 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,760 those those specific sales for those 1254 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,079 similar properties correctly? And once 1255 00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:48,799 it passes that statistical test, it's 1256 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:50,160 just applied to the properties that 1257 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,000 don't sell [snorts] 1258 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,720 where we have no control over what sales 1259 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,200 occur where we can't go, well, there's 1260 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,079 only two sales in place. What are we 1261 00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:02,079 going to do? 1262 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:04,640 In either way, we need sufficient sales 1263 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,359 for us to develop a valuation model that 1264 00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:11,040 makes sense that is capable of being a 1265 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,880 an appropriate reflection of the market 1266 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,680 value of properties. That's our mandate 1267 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,319 to be to be a properties 1268 00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:21,440 market value using mass appraisal. We 1269 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,440 have no control over the sales. 1270 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,119 Obviously, we use three years worth of 1271 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,000 sales to get as many sales as possible. 1272 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,760 The more sales we have, the more 1273 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,000 confidence we have in the valuation pro 1274 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000 in the models that are developed that 1275 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,359 are stat statistically tested. So in the 1276 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:40,160 example of say either sunrise place or 1277 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,520 one of the other communities not having 1278 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,760 any sales, 1279 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,680 we model we take all those similar 1280 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,520 properties. We'll be de we've developed 1281 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,440 a value model that includes all of them 1282 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,920 now not even separately. Now they all 1283 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,799 all the same. So they're all on they're 1284 00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:56,720 all on the same level. So they're all 1285 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,280 identical and the val with a consistent 1286 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,920 valuation process mass appraisal the 1287 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,480 sales of time adjusted all the cond 1288 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,319 properties every property is adjusted 1289 00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:09,680 for time because it has to be July 1. So 1290 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,240 we follow we followed the the provincial 1291 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,240 legislation, we followed best practice 1292 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,960 using mass appraisal. And even if the 1293 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,160 example of um if there were no sales in 1294 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,680 one of those communities, if if there 1295 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,280 were one sale, it could be high, it 1296 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,160 could be lower, but it's just one sale. 1297 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,000 And we talked about that coefficient of 1298 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,880 dispersion. It's in there somewhere. 1299 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,280 It's in that range 1300 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,920 of value. Just because there's only one 1301 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,240 sale, it doesn't mean it's the highest 1302 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720 or the lowest, we have no control over 1303 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,599 that. All we required to do is look all 1304 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,599 the sales of a consistent group of 1305 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:51,200 properties by location, develop a model 1306 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,720 that's statistically tested following 1307 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,040 all the provincial regulations we have, 1308 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,839 and then that's the assessment. I I 1309 00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:02,160 understand the argument that um this 1310 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,960 these these couple of sales in 22 or 1311 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,599 some in 23 but we have we just time and 1312 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,319 location or right and there's all kinds 1313 00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:13,920 of other property groups but we're 1314 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,240 looking at similar properties a similar 1315 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,200 process a similar and consistent 1316 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,520 statistical test so we that's what how 1317 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,040 the assessments are developed that's the 1318 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,599 only defense I have right we we're we're 1319 00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,079 bound by legis legislation bound by mass 1320 00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,799 appraisal as imperfect as it may be. 1321 00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:32,559 Right? But that's that's that's the 1322 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:34,160 standard by which we are complete the 1323 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,030 assessment process. 1324 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,839 » Thank you. I will now ask any members of 1325 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:46,710 the board if you have any questions 1326 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,480 to the assessor through the chair. Are 1327 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,119 so we're just taking the sales. Are we 1328 00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,680 now looking at quality 1329 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,640 of the homes that are involved in these 1330 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,319 sales? The amp like 1331 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:06,319 are all the condos in that area the same 1332 00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:09,670 quality? 1333 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,520 » Yep. They're all identical. They're all 1334 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,839 They're all assessed exactly the same. 1335 00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:15,839 They all have different It's marketed 1336 00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:18,160 just a depreciated cost. So they have 1337 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,200 different ages, different sizes, but the 1338 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,040 style and quality of construction is 1339 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,440 consistent throughout. It's not there's 1340 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,079 not there's not sufficient differences 1341 00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,480 that would that would would cause any to 1342 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,200 be different than another. Not not on 1343 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,400 the assessor's opinion anyway. 1344 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,240 U Madam Chair, may I interject? 1345 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,870 >> Go ahead. Um, 1346 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:40,880 » Go ahead. Um, 1347 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,400 yeah, I obviously have the privilege of 1348 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,480 of being on the condominium board of 1349 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,240 Sunil Place that we spoke about this 1350 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,839 morning and I'm also on the condominium 1351 00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:50,319 board of Sunrise Place that we're now 1352 00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:54,000 assessing. Um, the quality of the homes 1353 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,920 in Sunil are actually superior to the 1354 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,400 ones in Sunrise. I know cuz I own two of 1355 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,200 them and they have different finishings 1356 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,720 inside. 1357 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,440 um you know their laminated countertops 1358 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:10,799 rather than um marble or anyway it's 1359 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,559 it's it's a little bit different. The 1360 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,799 flooring is very different. You got 1361 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,799 plush wooden floors in Sunvil. You don't 1362 01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:19,280 have the same flooring in Sunrise. The 1363 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,720 property that they've got in the picture 1364 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,240 is obviously one that's been renovated 1365 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,480 and and actually looks very nice. Um but 1366 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,839 not all of the properties are exactly 1367 01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:29,040 the same and they do that does determine 1368 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,240 a different value. it wouldn't be 1369 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,200 significant but it it might be enough. 1370 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,720 Um 1371 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,480 I guess guess what I would have to say 1372 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,240 is that 1373 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,559 even though the model seems to suggest 1374 01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:43,760 that these values should be accurate. Um 1375 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,040 on on this this diagram here or this 1376 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,440 chart here we can we can see sales um 1377 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,559 that have taken place um over a period 1378 01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,880 of years since 2022. 1379 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,880 and 1380 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,040 all of the comparable sales. We would we 1381 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,400 would consider these three communities 1382 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,880 as called Sunrise Meadows. Am I correct? 1383 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,390 >> I don't know that I know you by 1384 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:08,400 » I don't know that I know you by 1385 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,760 specifically by each one, but you're 1386 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,559 probably right. Yeah, 1387 01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:11,910 >> Sunrise Meadows is what I understand 1388 01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:11,920 » Sunrise Meadows is what I understand 1389 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,680 that these three communities are are 1390 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,839 referred to, but it's it's Sunrise 1391 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:19,119 Place, Sunrise Cresant, and Sunvail 1392 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,760 Place. Um 1393 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,280 so these three air these three 1394 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,960 communities are the most comparable 1395 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,040 properties available in High River 1396 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,359 because they are most similar. Um but 1397 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:32,960 but they are different. Um they they the 1398 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,359 sales that I've got in this chart depict 1399 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:38,400 arms length market transactions between 1400 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,760 willing buyers and willing sellers. Um, 1401 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,079 and actual sales, actual sales are the 1402 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,119 strongest evidence of market value. Not 1403 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:53,200 a model, not a formula, actual sales. 1404 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,680 And every comparable sale supports 1405 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,440 values significantly below these 1406 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,319 assessed values. Every single sale. Now, 1407 01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:01,839 I g gather that there's a time 1408 01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:05,200 adjustment factor, but even the sales 1409 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,280 that have occurred since July 1st, 2025 1410 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,440 are well below this assessment value. 1411 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,359 So, obviously, something is broken 1412 01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:18,480 within the model and that's our contest 1413 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,799 our our our 1414 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:23,520 position. Um, it's it's a consistent 1415 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,119 pattern that we're seeing. um it's not 1416 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,880 one sale um within this community. All 1417 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,559 of the sales that I've got on this 1418 01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:34,559 document demonstrate that we're not 1419 01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:36,559 anywhere near those values. Now, yes, 1420 01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:38,880 it's over a time period, but not anyone 1421 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,440 of the sales that took place within that 1422 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,240 1st of July 2024 1423 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,000 to 30th of June 2025 hit that value at 1424 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,920 all. And I mentioned at the very 1425 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,079 beginning, 1426 01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:56,319 unit 50 was sold 1427 01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:59,839 just a matter of weeks on May 9th, it 1428 01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:01,920 sold for 380,000, 1429 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160 7 weeks before the legislated valuation 1430 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,520 date. And yet the town's value for that 1431 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,359 property 1432 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:11,599 is 416. 1433 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:14,458 Well, that's a significant jump. 1434 01:03:14,458 --> 01:03:18,880 [snorts] Um, and so we contest that the 1435 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,960 model doesn't seem to be working. It's 1436 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,359 not representative of what actually is 1437 01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:26,720 happening on the ground. [snorts] Um and 1438 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,440 and I don't I don't understand it. I 1439 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,599 don't know what the 1440 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,799 um the model does in its calculations. I 1441 01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:37,359 just see the numbers of the actual sales 1442 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,000 that I was able to obtain details of and 1443 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,160 they're they're not they're not equating 1444 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,589 to what um Stuart [snorts] is reporting. 1445 01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:54,400 Anyway, I rest. Thank you, Madam Chair. 1446 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,309 >> Sorry, I just want to clarify. You said 1447 01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:56,319 » Sorry, I just want to clarify. You said 1448 01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:58,720 unit 50. I don't see that on this list 1449 01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,119 here. 1450 01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:02,789 >> It's not um this this particular unit 1451 01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:02,799 » It's not um this this particular unit 1452 01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:04,960 was not on the MLS. It was actually data 1453 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,280 that the town provided me. So, it must 1454 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,960 have been a private sale is what I 1455 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,880 assume. 1456 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,870 >> But I will contest as well, like I did 1457 01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:12,880 » But I will contest as well, like I did 1458 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,440 this morning, that that doesn't matter. 1459 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,200 The people that are residing in these 1460 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,920 homes are all mostly retired folks, 1461 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,760 right? They're mostly retired folks. And 1462 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,480 um there's going to be a lot of estate 1463 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,799 sales in these communities as a result 1464 01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:34,240 of that. Um that's that's just an 1465 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,760 apparent fact because of the age 1466 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,359 population of the people that are living 1467 01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:40,549 there. 1468 01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:41,839 They're they're either staying there 1469 01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:43,760 till they die or they're moving from 1470 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,400 there into a care facility of some sort. 1471 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,069 >> Any other questions from the board? 1472 01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:50,079 » Any other questions from the board? 1473 01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,309 >> Yeah, I have several here. Just uh 1474 01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:52,319 » Yeah, I have several here. Just uh 1475 01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,920 confirm what page number is that for the 1476 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,599 location you were just talking about? 1477 01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:58,309 >> 50. 1478 01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:58,319 » 50. 1479 01:04:58,319 --> 01:04:58,710 >> Um 1480 01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:58,720 » Um 1481 01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,910 >> because I don't see it in this report 1482 01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:59,920 » because I don't see it in this report 1483 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,440 when I reviewed it through lunch. 1484 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,710 >> That's a great question. Um it's in the 1485 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:04,720 » That's a great question. Um it's in the 1486 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,640 rebuttal that was sent to us from the 1487 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,000 city. So it's somewhere in this 1488 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,119 document. Okay. 1489 01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:09,829 >> And uh 1490 01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:09,839 » And uh 1491 01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:10,950 >> I don't know if we can do like 1492 01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:10,960 » I don't know if we can do like 1493 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,910 >> I'll see if I can find it 1494 01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:11,920 » I'll see if I can find it 1495 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,470 >> a control search function on it. 1496 01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:14,480 » a control search function on it. 1497 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,390 >> Okay. I'll just jump to a couple other 1498 01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:16,400 » Okay. I'll just jump to a couple other 1499 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,000 ones here. 1500 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,470 >> Um to the complaintant here. You 1501 01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:20,480 » Um to the complaintant here. You 1502 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,119 discussed a few times in regards to 1503 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,160 direct sales. Most recent sales is this 1504 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,160 50 and then the prior ones just to 1505 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,920 confirm with you is 42 cresant place and 1506 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,240 then 32 1507 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,960 specifically. Is that correct? 1508 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,240 Uh 42 at 375,000 1509 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,230 >> and then 32 was your other direct 1510 01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:42,240 » and then 32 was your other direct 1511 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,990 >> 398,600. 1512 01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:44,000 » 398,600. 1513 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,680 Yes, that's correct. 1514 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,109 >> Those are your direct comparisons that 1515 01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:47,119 » Those are your direct comparisons that 1516 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,359 you want to equate to this. 1517 01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:51,109 >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you for 1518 01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:51,119 » Yes. Thank you. Thank you for 1519 01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:53,680 confirming. Uh in regards to the 1520 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,960 condition of the property itself, um as 1521 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,640 you've already stated before, but I just 1522 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,559 want to make sure it's clear to 1523 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:02,720 everybody online here. What is your 1524 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,240 depiction of the condition of the 1525 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,559 properties? The subject properties would 1526 01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,640 you recommend or would you advise as 1527 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,039 it's fair, good, excellent condition or 1528 01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:15,200 referring to does the roof need to be 1529 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,359 replaced? I understand the interior may 1530 01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:20,000 have small adjustments but major 1531 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,119 structural issues. 1532 01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:23,349 >> These these properties are about 4 years 1533 01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:23,359 » These these properties are about 4 years 1534 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:24,799 older than the properties that we were 1535 01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:26,240 talking about this morning in Sunil. 1536 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,559 They're from 2012. They're all of a 1537 01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:32,000 similar um condition. Um the roofs are 1538 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,039 all in good condition. Um obviously the 1539 01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:36,799 exterior of these properties are managed 1540 01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:38,240 by the condo board, not by the 1541 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,599 individual tenants or owners. Um and 1542 01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,280 yeah, they're all in good condition. 1543 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:43,990 >> Okay. Thank you. 1544 01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:44,000 » Okay. Thank you. 1545 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,990 >> The interiors are slightly different. 1546 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:46,000 » The interiors are slightly different. 1547 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,029 >> Thank you. To the respondent just to 1548 01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:49,039 » Thank you. To the respondent just to 1549 01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:52,960 confirm for myself here and I know the 1550 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,000 complaintant did bring it up here. Um in 1551 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,720 regards to the time weight, what's the 1552 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,559 actual weight? I know you guys did a 1553 01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,839 confidence to confirm if it hit the 1554 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,000 medium through the government, but 1555 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,280 what's the actual weight when we're 1556 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,960 applying a weight of a sale of 2022? 1557 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,000 What what's the actual weight itself? 1558 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,160 Like how are we adjusting that specific 1559 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,599 number versus a sale of 2024? 1560 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:20,549 >> Yeah, it's it's 1561 01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:20,559 » Yeah, it's it's 1562 01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:22,390 >> I just I couldn't find it in the page 1563 01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:22,400 » I just I couldn't find it in the page 1564 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,760 reviewing it through like an hour 1565 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,319 before. I just do you have uh 1566 01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:27,920 information for me? There's no there's 1567 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,160 no specific it's developed from the like 1568 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,079 you say on page 28 of the of our 1569 01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:35,760 submission there's a graph there's a 1570 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,799 graph there representing the time 1571 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:39,119 adjustment so it's it's there's not 1572 01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:41,119 there's no set standard that time 1573 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:42,799 adjustment is calculated specifically 1574 01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,640 only from those condos 1575 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,230 >> from all the condos here in town there's 1576 01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:46,240 » from all the condos here in town there's 1577 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,760 not a in high river we we this is it the 1578 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,359 time adjustment is calculated from the 1579 01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:52,960 sales and so there isn't there is an 1580 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,039 adjustment that's a coefficient we don't 1581 01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:57,920 we don't I get come with a statistical 1582 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,520 regression to build for a difference of 1583 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,240 timing. I'm just trying to understand 1584 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,599 where it would be aligned or is it just 1585 01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:08,559 exponential? At the end of the day, it's 1586 01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:10,400 this is an estimate of assessment, an 1587 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,799 estimate of value using mass appraisal 1588 01:08:12,799 --> 01:08:15,680 and it's tested for our so our models 1589 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,239 are tested the statistical test is 95 to 1590 01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:19,839 105. 1591 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,920 So that's after the time adjustments are 1592 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,719 calculated determined then that's how 1593 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:27,199 the respective sales are adjusted but 1594 01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:29,520 then modeling is specific to similar 1595 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,199 groups and I just want to add add to 1596 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,319 that um the complaint said did say that 1597 01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:38,000 Sunvil place were better units 1598 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,279 but similar so you know there the 1599 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,520 assessment is not we can only divide 1600 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,679 properties into so many small groups and 1601 01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:48,080 then we have no sales left so it's mass 1602 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,000 appraisal for similar groups 1603 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,759 If we really get into the weeds and want 1604 01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:54,319 to divide stuff into hundreds of groups, 1605 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:55,759 good luck trying to come up with a sale 1606 01:08:55,759 --> 01:08:57,759 price with a model. So that's why we're 1607 01:08:57,759 --> 01:08:59,440 looking at that's why I think we would 1608 01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,920 be in agreement that I've heard from the 1609 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,839 complaintant also that these three 1610 01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,319 communities are very close. That's why I 1611 01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,799 say this is a a good idea moving ahead 1612 01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:10,880 to make them all the same, right? But 1613 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,359 they're not perfectly identical. We 1614 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:15,600 can't we it's just residential groups. 1615 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,199 Imagine trying to place some like some 1616 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,359 place like water tower or the southwest 1617 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:22,640 looking for tight groups. Good luck, 1618 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,400 right? We we have to we have to divide 1619 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,279 them up into consistent similar groups 1620 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:29,759 and not into smaller groups. So, it's 1621 01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:33,520 mass appraisal for ma for as consistent 1622 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,440 groups as we can get right. They don't 1623 01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:37,600 have to be identical but similar. 1624 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,309 >> I appreciate that. Okay. Couple 1625 01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:40,319 » I appreciate that. Okay. Couple 1626 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,070 >> sorry, just for the purpose of this, if 1627 01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:42,080 » sorry, just for the purpose of this, if 1628 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,159 you're not speaking, can you please turn 1629 01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:48,149 off your microphone? Apologies, 1630 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,400 that was myself. [laughter] 1631 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,359 Um, in regards to the assessments, uh, 1632 01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:55,120 similar question to the complainant to 1633 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,440 the respondent here, uh, when you went 1634 01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,760 to the properties, just to confirm 1635 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,159 through, uh, everybody live streaming 1636 01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:04,000 this. Uh, when you checked out the 1637 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,760 property itself, would you consider the 1638 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,320 condition good, fair, excellent 1639 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,560 condition, no major faults or issues? 1640 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,080 just to confirm other property 1641 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,470 >> I believe uh I don't I haven't looked at 1642 01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:16,480 » I believe uh I don't I haven't looked at 1643 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,800 everyone specifically but for this group 1644 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,239 I think we believe we all have them as 1645 01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:21,920 average they're not that old 1646 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,310 >> okay 1647 01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:22,320 » okay 1648 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,070 >> right they're not that old to have 1649 01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:24,080 » right they're not that old to have 1650 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,719 experienced significant depreciation 1651 01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:29,360 which we don't already uh already 1652 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,199 considered in the age of the age of the 1653 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,760 condos whether they're built in 2012 or 1654 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,840 built in 2016 that there's an adjustment 1655 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,840 for depreciation in the mass in the 1656 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,640 market adjusted depreciated cost method 1657 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,000 So we don't we don't we haven't had any 1658 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,840 feedback from property owners of any 1659 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,120 extreme condition like we we and we have 1660 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:50,400 them all at average. 1661 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,189 >> I appreciate that. Thank you. That's all 1662 01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:53,199 » I appreciate that. Thank you. That's all 1663 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,400 I have for a question. 1664 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,189 >> Go ahead. 1665 01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:57,199 » Go ahead. 1666 01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:00,229 >> Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, you had 1667 01:11:00,229 --> 01:11:00,239 » Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, you had 1668 01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:02,640 at one point wanted the assessed value 1669 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,400 at 360 and you said, "Now taking into 1670 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,360 all that I've learned, I'd like to see 1671 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,120 an assessment of what?" 1672 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,669 >> Um, Madame Chair, thank you for the 1673 01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:15,679 » Um, Madame Chair, thank you for the 1674 01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:17,920 opportunity to answer the question. Um, 1675 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,440 just just before I do answer that 1676 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,360 question, I do want to go back to what 1677 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,000 Taylor had said about um the one 1678 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,920 property unit 50. It's found on page 32. 1679 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,600 um you'll see that the ASR on page 32 1680 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,679 was 109% 1681 01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:35,760 and that is the property that we learned 1682 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,880 about being sold at 380,000. 1683 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,560 Um 1684 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,080 anyway, just wanted to bring that back 1685 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,199 to your attention and answer that 1686 01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:48,400 question. Um based based upon um 1687 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,320 everything that we had learned um during 1688 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:57,920 this process um we recognize that we may 1689 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,199 have been a little bit um 1690 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:05,280 you know [snorts] uh keen to get a lower 1691 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,159 value and so we we feel that the Sunrise 1692 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:10,960 Place properties sell for less than the 1693 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,239 Sunvail Place properties typically. 1694 01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:16,400 Um that's that's what we've seen over 1695 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,400 time and and so we we did have a reduced 1696 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,239 value. Um but when when we went through 1697 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,360 this process, we're accepting now that 1698 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,040 hey, a lot of the values that we're 1699 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,280 seeing these properties be sold for is 1700 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,480 around that that price point. And so it 1701 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:36,719 doesn't seem to matter that the Sunil 1702 01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:38,239 Place properties might be a little bit 1703 01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:41,440 better um interior. They're still being 1704 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,199 sold for a similar value to the ones in 1705 01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,520 Sunrise. And so hopefully that answers 1706 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,040 your question and that's why we've we've 1707 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,880 adjusted what we're applying for. 1708 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,030 >> So to confirm, 1709 01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:53,040 » So to confirm, 1710 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,480 380 is 1711 01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:56,149 >> Does that Does that Yeah, 380. Yeah. 1712 01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:56,159 » Does that Does that Yeah, 380. Yeah. 1713 01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,920 Does that answer your question? [snorts] 1714 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,750 >> I believe so. Thank you. 1715 01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:01,760 » I believe so. Thank you. 1716 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,870 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. 1717 01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:02,880 » Thank you, Madam Chair. 1718 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,910 >> Any other questions? 1719 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,400 That appeared like a rebuttal but um 1720 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,480 thank you. So now I will invite the 1721 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:15,679 complainant um to speak to a rebuttal um 1722 01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:20,080 clos disclosure um and you any closing 1723 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,470 remarks. 1724 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:27,520 » Thank you Madam Chair. um 1725 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,000 really uh 1726 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,400 I think I think we've repeated ourselves 1727 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,960 uh a number of times um that 1728 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,000 we we recognize that the town has an 1729 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,760 obligation to follow a mass appraisal 1730 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,920 model in its calculations of these 1731 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,360 assessments. Um our argument is not that 1732 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,920 they haven't done their job. it's that 1733 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,560 these mass appraisal calculations don't 1734 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,920 actually um equate to what's actually 1735 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,120 happening in reality and the evidence 1736 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,199 we've provided shows that none of those 1737 01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:05,360 those homes will fetch the values that 1738 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,760 they're currently being assessed at. Um, 1739 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,480 and I think uh I I don't know whether or 1740 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,920 not it's a time adjustment problem in 1741 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,880 their model um uh or whether or not um 1742 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,199 there's some other miscalculation in the 1743 01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:24,159 model that's currently being used. But 1744 01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:29,360 uh we we affirm that uh our request to 1745 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,960 have the board um determine a value that 1746 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,480 equates to what the market will bear um 1747 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,239 should be what these properties be 1748 01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:41,280 assessed at as we move forward. Thank 1749 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:47,669 you. 1750 01:14:47,679 --> 01:14:52,320 um to the respondent um any closing 1751 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,040 remarks or rebuttals 1752 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,320 for last considerations here. 1753 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,030 >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just to 1754 01:15:01,030 --> 01:15:01,040 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just to 1755 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,199 reiterate, um uh my favorite saying is I 1756 01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:06,560 don't write the music. I just play the 1757 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,960 piano. We we just reflect what happens 1758 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,199 in the marketplace. We have no control 1759 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:14,960 over what the sale is. Uh what value it 1760 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,159 is, what when it's sold. We are required 1761 01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:21,760 we when we reflect we've taken all of 1762 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,080 the sales all the actual all the sales 1763 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,480 the complainants used in the submission 1764 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:28,640 actual sales they're in they're in our 1765 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,800 analysis. If it's sold even ones has 1766 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,880 been made clear the ones that aren't on 1767 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,000 MLS we include we have to include all of 1768 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,239 them. So they all are included not some 1769 01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:40,560 of them all of them. So they are in the 1770 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,040 model and the models are statistically 1771 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,960 tested. We've wrapped both these three 1772 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,120 communities together. There may be some 1773 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,040 subtle differences between the three of 1774 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,239 them. Mass appraisal there's a it's a 1775 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:54,800 range of value. So that's that's our 1776 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,159 current and it's for the distribution of 1777 01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,080 tax. It's not for borrowing money. It's 1778 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,480 not for any other purpose for but for 1779 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,080 the fair and equitable distribution of 1780 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,040 the tax load using advalar 1781 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,480 principle of valuation. Right? So we've 1782 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,960 met the standards, we've followed the 1783 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,440 market sales, we've made appropriate 1784 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,440 adjustments for the change in value over 1785 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:18,880 time. We've developed uh a model that 1786 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,600 suits that is developed from the three 1787 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,600 communities. And we've even shown that 1788 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,600 if those models were were used 1789 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,040 specifically within Sunrise Rice Place, 1790 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,520 those assessments wouldn't pass audit. 1791 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,360 They're they're on they're 95 they're 1792 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,400 94.5% or whatever it was it was. But to 1793 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,360 together as a group they they pass audit 1794 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,960 and that's that's what we're supposed to 1795 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,640 do. We we we can't if we had developed 1796 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,880 if these were the original 2025 1797 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,440 assessment going to asset for uh 1798 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,840 approval they wouldn't pass. So these 1799 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,679 are the rules we have to follow using 1800 01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:56,159 mass appraisal developing models that 1801 01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:58,800 are statistically tested that represent 1802 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,800 a range of value. We've shown that some 1803 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,719 of we we show you assessment it's at 1804 01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:06,000 96%. Some sales are higher, some sales 1805 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,080 are lower. If you were to pick one of 1806 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,840 those sales out, like one one could be 1807 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,920 lower, one could be higher. We use all 1808 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,239 of them and the middle represents the 1809 01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:19,040 whole. So we've done we've done that in 1810 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,880 this case with the with the assess the 1811 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,280 amended assessments for Sunrise Sunrise 1812 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:24,640 Place. 1813 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,400 So I I respect the fact that some a 1814 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,719 recent sale might be lower than the 1815 01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:32,880 current assessment. It's after it's 1816 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,960 after July 1 if it is if it's after that 1817 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,000 time and it's one it's one sale. Next 1818 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,520 this whole next year is a whole new 1819 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,280 year. We drop 22 2022 sales would drop 1820 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,840 off. We pick up the 2026 sales. It's a 1821 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,679 brand new model. If the market's 1822 01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:50,080 tapering off this year that would be 1823 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,760 reflected in next year's assessment. 1824 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,440 Again, it's all the sales for one one 1825 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,159 point in time value. So, um I respect 1826 01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:00,640 the opinion. It's mass appraisal is um 1827 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,199 it's unique to assessment. It's not an 1828 01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:04,880 appraisal like a regular appraisal in 1829 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,320 the market. Um our role is to reflect 1830 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,199 the typical market. our our mandate as 1831 01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:14,320 per legislation is market value standard 1832 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,159 using mass appraisal passing new 1833 01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,320 required quality standards and this has 1834 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,960 been a great process right to to both 1835 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,040 Sunville Place and Sunrise Place with 1836 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,120 the patience of people like Paul right 1837 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,280 to help us shed some light on maybe 1838 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,960 improving things as we move forward 1839 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,480 that's what it's all about we we don't 1840 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,800 stand in a a corn of silence and we're 1841 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,880 not open to any new information on how 1842 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,040 to value things it's it's it's this 1843 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,159 process and this process I respect we 1844 01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:41,440 respect that, right? That's how we 1845 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:42,719 that's how we make our assessments 1846 01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,360 better and decisions of the board. So, 1847 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,199 this is a great process. I've I've 1848 01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:48,719 enjoyed going through this with Paul and 1849 01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:50,719 and the people in Sunville Place. And 1850 01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:52,719 like I say, we're just following the 1851 01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:54,159 rules we have and this is just our 1852 01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:55,920 estimate value for mass appraisal 1853 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,280 process. So, I appreciate your time. 1854 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,920 Thank you, Madam Chair. 1855 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,840 One question for me personally, um, 1856 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,640 because it follows the mandate of the 1857 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:11,280 province and it it passes the the test, 1858 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,800 is there an opportunity that the test 1859 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,120 valuation overall in High River is too 1860 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:22,070 high? 1861 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,719 Um it's they're all all so all the 1862 01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:26,719 models are developed specifically for 1863 01:19:26,719 --> 01:19:29,040 every single like we don't model we 1864 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,120 don't have a volume model for condos 1865 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,480 like we don't by by it's stratified by 1866 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:38,159 property type within each community. So 1867 01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:40,960 those models develop by property type 1868 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,400 and each community they're all at 98%. 1869 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,400 So you take all of those and compile 1870 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,719 them together. Like remember the the the 1871 01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:52,000 the example of this mass appraise mass 1872 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,480 appraisal all of the 1300 and some 1873 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,840 condos like they were all they're all in 1874 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,880 the different model groups all 98%. So 1875 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,040 they're all believe me the audit audit 1876 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,600 are very very stringent. They pick they 1877 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,440 pick it apart and so they should because 1878 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,920 people pay tax based on this. So we 1879 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,480 should be scrutinized here, here, and 1880 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,800 with you and with the province. So the 1881 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,360 rules are very strict. I would say no, 1882 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,960 there there's a range of course like we 1883 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,440 always have people come in and if there 1884 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:26,159 if a property sold for 350 and we've got 1885 01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,560 to assess at 370, they come in and say, 1886 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,360 "What's going on?" Well, there's a 1887 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,320 range. And so we can't we can't be lower 1888 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,400 than everyone's selling price. It's not 1889 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,719 possible. So we I'm I'm confident that 1890 01:20:40,719 --> 01:20:42,640 we've we've met the standard. It's been 1891 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,040 we've passed the audit. They the they 1892 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,040 passed we've passed that test and at 1893 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,800 this level we're we're getting more 1894 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,800 specific, right? And that's fine. You 1895 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,400 know, it's like I said, it's a good 1896 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000 learning opportunity as well for 1897 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,360 everybody, right? 1898 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,510 >> Yeah, absolutely. The reason I come to 1899 01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:57,520 » Yeah, absolutely. The reason I come to 1900 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,440 that question is because a lot of the 1901 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,719 market ratio reports that were provided 1902 01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:06,880 um for example it was your page 26 but 1903 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,679 the overall document page 59 the mean 1904 01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:12,159 came in for the square footage at 312 1905 01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:15,120 square ft and I'm wondering the 1906 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,760 valuation of square footage as we do an 1907 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,840 assessment would be like the replacement 1908 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,880 cost of a property. 1909 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,550 >> Could you can I ask that question again 1910 01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:24,560 » Could you can I ask that question again 1911 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:24,800 please? 1912 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,350 >> Sure. The reason I'm asking that 1913 01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:27,360 » Sure. The reason I'm asking that 1914 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,950 >> which p which page which page 1915 01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:28,960 » which p which page which page 1916 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,790 >> so it's your page 26. 1917 01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:30,800 » so it's your page 26. 1918 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,990 >> All right. Yes. 1919 01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:32,000 » All right. Yes. 1920 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,990 >> So um the price for per square foot the 1921 01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:36,000 » So um the price for per square foot the 1922 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:41,110 mean here you have it 312 1923 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:41,600 » dollars. 1924 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,830 >> Oh yeah that's this is just this is just 1925 01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:43,840 » Oh yeah that's this is just this is just 1926 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,840 we don't use that like we this is not 1927 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,920 it. This is just a reflection. This is 1928 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,400 reflect. This is not the numbers on here 1929 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,639 are not they're just um 1930 01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:56,560 they're we don't use that. We don't use 1931 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,320 that. It's just it's just a number. It's 1932 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,520 just a of this group for this like this 1933 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,679 is every all the condos all the condo 1934 01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:05,760 sales. So we wouldn't this doesn't rep 1935 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,000 reflect anything. It's just information. 1936 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,800 We wouldn't we wouldn't use that 312 1937 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,679 because this is rep represents every 1938 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:16,480 condo in town. apartment condo like a 1939 01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,480 Sunvail condo 1940 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:21,600 uh every condo this is this is just this 1941 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,440 is um like we don't we don't use that to 1942 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:26,880 calculate assessments because this this 1943 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,000 is all condos in every community 1944 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,080 every all the all the strata groups this 1945 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,840 is not this is not a measure of value 1946 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,280 like it's not 1947 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,270 >> yeah we wouldn't we wouldn't use that 1948 01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:37,280 » yeah we wouldn't we wouldn't use that 1949 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,639 it's just a 1950 01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,870 >> although it does form part of the 1951 01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:40,880 » although it does form part of the 1952 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,120 evidence for us 1953 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,669 >> yeah it's not the what's specific to 1954 01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:45,679 » yeah it's not the what's specific to 1955 01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:48,159 these these condor groups is what's been 1956 01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:50,080 shown today because these are different 1957 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,960 a whole every condor this is only used 1958 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,719 as as an example like for instance if 1959 01:22:54,719 --> 01:22:56,800 you go to 1960 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,560 let's go to page 30 1961 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,880 you'll see it's for for this group so 1962 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,520 this is for all of them [clears throat] 1963 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,679 it says 423 1964 01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:09,590 >> right and we're the assessment the me 1965 01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:09,600 » right and we're the assessment the me 1966 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,760 the proposed assessment is not 423 like 1967 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,040 it doesn't mean it's just it's a 1968 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,760 different group the groups that matter 1969 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,320 is is the group that we have used right 1970 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,719 here for 96. This is not that's not the 1971 01:23:20,719 --> 01:23:23,199 measure. It's the group the measure of 1972 01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:27,760 the value is the the model that's built 1973 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,000 from the assessment divided by the 1974 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,280 selling price for all for all those 23 1975 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,920 sales to arrive at a median ASR of 1976 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,480 96.8%. That's the destination right 1977 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,880 there. That the median ASR that's the 1978 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,199 quality standard. what you're referring 1979 01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:46,320 to this price median mean like this all 1980 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,239 these numbers they're just a measure 1981 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:49,760 they're just another way to look at the 1982 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,600 same number but they're not used in our 1983 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,639 analysis these are irrelevant the the 1984 01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:57,120 number we're that's that we the quality 1985 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,880 standard we're required to meet is that 1986 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,199 median percentage because that's statist 1987 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,400 that's a stat statistical test of this 1988 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,159 model for similar units of sales within 1989 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:11,920 the three years as of July 125 That's 1990 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,760 that's our standard and that's what's 1991 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,520 being communicated here like all this 1992 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,080 we've talked about the sales specific to 1993 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,880 sun these three communities there are 1994 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,960 similar properties and that's our 1995 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,440 destination is an assessment rule the 1996 01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:28,320 total assessment value we don't do we 1997 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,639 don't say a median square footage and 1998 01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:33,600 apply that this is just a result you 1999 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,760 right it's just a massive process 2000 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,510 >> so it's an area essentially no different 2001 01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:37,520 » so it's an area essentially no different 2002 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,800 than you having 2003 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,390 >> if you use that as a measure of 2004 01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:40,400 » if you use that as a measure of 2005 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:41,840 comparison 2006 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,239 Fine, you can you can anyone can use 2007 01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:47,360 whatever they want. But for us, we this 2008 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,719 the destination is the total assessment 2009 01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:53,199 divided by the selling price for all of 2010 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:56,159 the sales in the model. Does it pass the 2011 01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:58,239 quality standard? And on page 30, the 2012 01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:01,280 the median ASR is 96.8%. That's our 2013 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,280 requirement. We're market value 2014 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,199 assessment for the total value of the 2015 01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:06,639 property. 2016 01:25:06,639 --> 01:25:08,639 So, it would be fair to say that the 2017 01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:11,920 mean is 423 and the median is 422 of 2018 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,400 what? 2019 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,910 >> I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't 2020 01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:13,920 » I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't 2021 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,520 use those numbers. I'm not suggesting I 2022 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,760 I didn't I haven't used that in my in 2023 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,560 this in this submission. 2024 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,920 Right. That's we're talking we're 2025 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,840 talking about the 2026 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,920 the valuation model that's applied 2027 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,719 consistently within similar similar 2028 01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:31,440 properties. 2029 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:35,600 So just me personally I um so you don't 2030 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,560 want us to assess the square foot value 2031 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,679 that is being presented in some of this 2032 01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:42,639 documentation. 2033 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:45,270 >> We're we're talking we're we're we're 2034 01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:45,280 » We're we're talking we're we're we're 2035 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,760 def we're we're we're defending the 2036 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,600 total assessed value of the property not 2037 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,920 the square foot value of the property. 2038 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,560 Right? We could use the we could use the 2039 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,440 garage and say the gra based on the 2040 01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:59,120 garage size. You could build a model on 2041 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,120 that. Right? You could build a model in 2042 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,920 anything, but we're saying we've we've 2043 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,080 we've corrected the size of those condo 2044 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,960 suites. The assessment comprises of the 2045 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,880 suite at a certain square footage and a 2046 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,040 garage square footage. They come up with 2047 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,719 a value 2048 01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:18,080 for a total and that total for us. That 2049 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,600 total assessment has to be divided by 2050 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,400 that that assessment divided by the time 2051 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,800 it just selling price 2052 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,120 of of these 23 sales has to be within 2053 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,520 quality standard. 2054 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,120 That's what that's what we've that's how 2055 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,560 the model's built. That's how we're 2056 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:35,840 defending it today. We're not defending 2057 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,600 it on any other any any other metric. 2058 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,629 >> Okay. Thank you. 2059 01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:40,639 » Okay. Thank you. 2060 01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:43,669 >> Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, if 2061 01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:43,679 » Yeah. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, if 2062 01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:45,760 there are no further questions from the 2063 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,639 board, um, this is an opportunity for 2064 01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:51,440 either party to make any final comments 2065 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,920 um, before we conclude this hearing. Um, 2066 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,159 and please note that additional comments 2067 01:26:56,159 --> 01:26:58,239 are not required. If you feel your 2068 01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:02,470 position has already been heard. 2069 01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:03,840 » Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't really 2070 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,199 feel like I need to make any other 2071 01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:06,560 comments. Appreciate everybody's time 2072 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,960 this afternoon. Uh, England are one up, 2073 01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,545 so sorry, Hank. 2074 01:27:11,545 --> 01:27:13,669 >> [laughter] 2075 01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:16,130 » And 2076 01:27:16,130 --> 01:27:17,360 [laughter] 2077 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,870 >> thank you everybody for your time. I 2078 01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:18,880 » thank you everybody for your time. I 2079 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,360 appreciate it. 2080 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,950 >> Uh similar to the complaint, Madam 2081 01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:22,960 » Uh similar to the complaint, Madam 2082 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,360 Chair, uh we've shared lots of 2083 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,800 information. We have no other further 2084 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,440 comments to make. Thank you very much. 2085 01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:33,350 >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Um 2086 01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:33,360 » Thank you. Appreciate that. Um 2087 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,440 thank you. Uh the board will deliberate 2088 01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:36,960 following the conclusion of this hearing 2089 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,520 and will issue a written uh decision in 2090 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:40,800 accordance with the legislated 2091 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,120 timelines. Generally, parties can expect 2092 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,360 the board decision to be within 30 days 2093 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,840 of this hearing. Uh after the decision 2094 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,080 is finalized, the clerk has up to seven 2095 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,239 additional days to distribute the final 2096 01:27:52,239 --> 01:27:56,080 notice um to all parties. This concludes 2097 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,760 the local assessment review board 2098 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,960 hearing for July 15, 2026. And this 2099 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:05,760 hearing is adjourned at 2:28