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Good evening everyone. The Hillsboro

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City Council meeting is now called to

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order. City clerk, may we please have

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the roll call?

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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams,

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>> present.

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>> Schwang,

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>> present. Krillic,

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>> present. Braxdale,

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>> present. Cole,

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>> present.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Um, announcement of conflicts of

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interest on closed session items. Do any

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of the council members have a conflict

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of interest on any of the closed uh

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session items?

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Seeing none

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and um

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let me announce the public uh let me do

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a public announcement of the close

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session items. Um item A, conference

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with legal council existing litigation

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town of Hillsboro versus all persons

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interested in matters of proceedings for

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resolution number 22-83 adopting maximum

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rates for water service charges San

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Mateo Superior Court case number 23 CIV

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01028.

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Item B, conference with legal council,

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initiation of litigation pursuant to

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government code section 54956.9,

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print D, P print 4, one, potential case,

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consideration of appeal in existing

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litigation noted above.

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Item C, conference with labor

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negotiators

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pursuant to government code section

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54957.6,

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Six, unrepresented employee, city

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manager, agency designated negotiator,

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Mayor Sophie Cole. Any public comment on

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close session items?

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>> No, Mayor Cole. Thank you.

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>> Okay, we're now adjourned um to close

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session items and um we'll start the

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regular city council meeting at 6 p.m.

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Thank you.

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Meeting is now called to order.

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The regular city council meeting is now

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called to order. Um the time the date is

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um January 12th and the time is 606.

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Thank you. Um

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city clerk, may we please have the roll

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call.

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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams present.

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>> present.

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>> Crowig present.

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>> Braxdale present. Cole

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>> Thank you. And

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>> please join me in pledge of allegiance.

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Um, before we get started this evening,

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I want to announce for the public that

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the public hearing item for 1200

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Jacqueline, which was noticed for this

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meeting, is no longer on the on this

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agenda. It will be rescheduled for a

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future meeting and notices will be

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recent.

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Um, do we have any report from close

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session? City attorney Diaz.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I just wanted to

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announce for the council of the public.

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The council did convene in close session

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and consider three items. Um, at the

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conclusion of the close session, uh,

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there was no reportable action, but

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direction was given to staff. I do want

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to note that the council will reconvene

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in close session at the conclusion of

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this council meeting. Um, regarding item

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C. Thank you.

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Um, thank you. I think we have um a very

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distinguished guest with us this

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evening.

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Um, we will be presenting the 2026 HIP

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housing calendar in recognition of

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Hillsboro Student Calendar contest

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winner. And I would like to invite Laura

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Fenucci, director of programs of HIPPA

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to present the 2026 Hip Housing

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calendar.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening. My

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name is Laura Fenui. welcome. And I am

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pleased tonight to not only provide you

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with Hip Housing's 2026 calendar, but to

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also give you a little bit of update on

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the activities that we've been doing

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here in the town of Hillsboro. But

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first, we have an distinguished guest

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here this evening who I think I

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understand you already know because

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she's quite a talented artist and did a

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drawing for Recology. So, Miss Maline

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Woo, would you please come up here with

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>> Good evening, Natalie. Welcome.

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>> So, um we have our calendar contest

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every year. We received about 120

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entries this year. We picked 14 winners.

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winner, and we also picked a winner to

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use in our annual appeal um

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correspondence to our donors. And I'm

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pleased to announce that Meline is our

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cover winner and she we honored her at

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our calendar contest party in December

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and she is going to read her quote.

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She's on the cover and her picture's up

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there. Okay. So, I'm going to have you

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read.

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» What my home means is being loved and

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cared for. My home is a safe place.

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Um, thank you, Meline. I hope you

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register again for next year. [laughter]

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>> we'll have you back. Um, so I don't know

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if you wanted to take a picture with

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Maline or can do that a little after I

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give my my spiel.

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>> Yeah, maybe I'll see your presentation.

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>> congratulations. This picture is

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beautiful. This cover is just lovely. I

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especially like the heart at the door.

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>> and we'll take a photo we'll take photos

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after you finish.

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>> Okay, great. Thank you so much.

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>> Okay. Um so I wanted to give just a

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brief update on activities uh for our

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ADU match collaboration.

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Um you know we meet monthly with Liz and

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Nicole to talk about outreach activities

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here in Hillsboro and then also in the

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surrounding communities in Sanonteo in

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Berlingame. Um, last fiscal year we had

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six members from Hillsboro contact our

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organization for information about our

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programs. So far this fiscal year we've

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already had three. So we're on kind of

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on track for that. Hopefully we'll

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exceed that. Um, three other individuals

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learned about HIP housing from our

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outreach activities and uh, two

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individuals in Hillsboro applied to the

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home sharing program. and we have one

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match here in our home sharing program

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that has been going on now for 5 years.

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So really proud about that match and

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they were so gracious to come and speak

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at an event that we had in the town of

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Athetherton. We have a similar

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collaboration. So they came and they

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talked about their home sharing match

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and it was really just very lovely for

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them to share their experience um with

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their with their match. Um, so a lot of

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the outreach that we've com uh that

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we've accomplished last year and we

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continue to do this year is we meet

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monthly with town staff. Um, we met with

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the CCAC committee to discuss outreach

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opportunities. Um, we also um met with

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the town's ADU specialists to share

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information about hip housing. Um, we

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attended the Memorial Day event, the

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neighborhood fest event. Um, we attended

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the Berling game Hillsboro Chamber Mixer

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and um, we held a joint presentation

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with the ADU resource center and we

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invited homeowners that have ADUs to

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learn a little bit more about hip

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housing and also the ADU resource

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center. Um, we have advertising here in

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the town of Hillsboro. So, we thank you

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very much for that on the billboard ads.

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um, kind of details some of the seekers

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who are looking for housing and that

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gets posted on your e newswsletter.

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Um, we're also included in your town's

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eblast. We post flyers here at town

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hall. We have the ADU flyer in the

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permit packets. And um Hip Housing also

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did a a mailing to all of our donors in

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Hillsboro and all of our former um home

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providers that participated in the home

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sharing program. Um we also sent

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information to all the realators who

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work here in the town of Hillsboro and

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we found out that information from

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Samar. Um we've outreached with the

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schools here in Hillsboro. Um we've had

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correspondence they include information

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about our match program in their

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correspondence with faculty and with

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also families and um we're in the

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process of contacting some other schools

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some private schools that are in and

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around Hillsboro area. Um we also do you

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know branch out and we do outreach in

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Berlingame and in Hill and in uh Berling

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game so at Berlingame and St. Mateo. So,

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we do a lot of flying to like local

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businesses, to the libraries, to the

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faith communities, service

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organizations, and nonprofit

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organizations.

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And two, um, upcoming activities that

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we're going to be hosting here hopefully

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in the spring is kind of an ADU match

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event where we invite homeowners here in

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Hillsboro to come learn about hip

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housing um, and then members of the

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community who might be looking for

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housing. We've done this event twice in

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the town of Athetherton and we've had

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really good turnout and it's really been

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a a very successful event. Um we also

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recently entered into similar

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collaboration with the town of Porola

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Valley and they're thinking that it

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might be beneficial if a quarterly

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meeting could be scheduled with the

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towns of Athetherton um Hillsboro,

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Portulla Valley and Woodside just so

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that we can brainstorm on collect you

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know collaborative outreach activities.

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So hopefully that um will be in the

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works. And how we could use your help is

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if you have any contacts at service

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clubs that we could contact to do

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presentations at or even at the faith

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community that would be very helpful as

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well. Or if you're seeing any place

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around town or in Berling game or hill

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in Sano where we might post information

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that we might have missed. Um if you

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could just let us know that would be

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great. So, we're very appreciative for

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your support of of this project and we

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really look forward uh we really, you

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know, appreciate the efforts that Liz

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and Nicole um are doing to help make

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this possible and we really appreciate

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your support and I'm happy to answer any

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questions that you might have.

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>> Uh thank you, Miss Penucci. Um any uh

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comments or questions for my colleagues

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from the council? Um Vice Mayor Ragdale,

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>> thank you so much. Um, I was so happy to

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be at the calendar presentation. Um, and

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so proud of Meline and and her family. I

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think uh grandma and grandpa are online

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here to watch. Um, and uh anyway, um, so

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happy with all of your outreach. I know

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it's it's challenging and uh the idea of

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the quarterly meeting with the four

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towns sounds like a fantastic idea and

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maybe even the the match event we could

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all combine for that maybe for more

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people.

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>> Yes.

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>> Um uh I think that's fabulous. And in

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terms of clubs, um I presume you're in

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contact with Peninsula Family Service.

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Um but the Berling game Women's Club,

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several of us are members. If you're not

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in contact with them, we could connect

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you. Great. Yeah, we we've tried. So,

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we'd love to have a personal end. So,

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that would be great. I'll do that. Thank

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you.

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>> Great.

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>> Um,

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thank you. And also, um, regarding just

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for residents in terms of information,

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first of all, I think the outreach you

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have going is quite impressive and it's

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fantastic. I know it's gotten

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significantly

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more expansive over the past four to

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five years. Um, regarding the screening

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that you do for potential um, renters to

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do the match, could you just give us one

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or two key screening things that you do

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for potential renters? What do you do?

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>> Sure. So, our screening process is

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really the same for both home providers

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and home seekers. We require the client

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to meet personally with one of our home

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sharing uh, team. And for home for home

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providers, we can do a home visit. So,

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we'd like to see the environment that

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they're offering. So, we will come to

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the home to do the home visit. Um, the

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clients complete an application and then

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they complete a questionnaire in their

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own words like what are what kind of

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housemate they're looking for, a little

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bit about their lifestyle, um, about the

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space that they're offering. And then,

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um, we require our home seekers to

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provide us with proof of income. We

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don't require that of our home

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providers, but we do of our home

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seekers. Um, we also require um we do a

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criminal background check. So, we do a

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local county background search and a

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national sex offender database check.

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Um, and so we also ask clients to sign a

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program agreement and waiver. So, the

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screening is very similar for both

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clients except the only difference is

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that we don't ask home providers for

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their income information.

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>> That's that's really helpful to know.

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Any additional questions for my

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colleagues?

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>> Just to say thank you and

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congratulations

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>> and congratulations Madlin. Um

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>> I'm so impressed with the detail.

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>> Um I think we should take a photo with

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Meline. She would love to post that in

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her room, I'm sure.

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>> Great. Thank you.

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>> Yes. And

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>> yes. Yes.

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Thank you,

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>> Laura. Thank you so much. Thank you for

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your work.

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Byebye.

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Okay. The next item on our agenda will

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be presented by city manager Doug Davis,

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which is town update.

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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, this will be

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a familiar slide from a while ago, but

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this is our ADU slide, and this is just

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a culmination of the three years. And in

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April when we'll do a report out on

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ADUs, uh you'll see this again and also

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the uh the HCD website will be updated

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with our numbers for 2025. If you

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remember early on, our goal was to hit

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50 a year and uh we are exactly at at 50

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a year if you average that out. So well

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done Tim and Liz for streamlining the

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process and getting that done. So we'll

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keep updating you that as the April

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meeting approaches. Also on January

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14th, uh Senator Becker is having a uh

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it's it's called the senior scam stopper

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seminar, but I recently was in a

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conversation with a senator and a couple

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other people. And actually, a lot of

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these things are maybe things we could

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all benefit from uh that uh for stopping

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these type of online scams as well as

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phone calls. Uh and that'll be held on

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Janu or Thursday, January 15th from 9:00

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a.m. to 11:00. And that's over at the

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Redwood City Public Library. And there's

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some additional information on uh

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Senator Becker's website if you'd like

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to go check that. Also, through the end

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of the month, uh we'll be having tree

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pickup. Just a reminder that you need to

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take all the decorations off the tree uh

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before you put it out in in front of

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there. I did get a question about uh I

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believe it's called flocking on trees

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and whether they could be put out or

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not. I didn't have an answer, so I put

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in a phone call and I will figure out

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what that is and and give them a call

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back. Uh, and Meline, although she's

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left here, I think she's getting used to

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photo shoots now because she was also

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our annual contest winner uh for uh

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Rethink Waste. And uh and that is her uh

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picture that's prominently displayed on

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one of the pickup trucks there.

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>> And uh that'll be moving through our

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town. Are they still here?

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>> Right there. Look up.

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>> There's your truck.

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>> Alan's like, "That's old hat." you know,

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she goes to restaurants now. People are

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asking her for autographs.

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>> Our artist laurate. Yes.

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>> And we're having the uh C basic class

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February 3rd through the 28th uh uh this

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year. And and that's for Berlingame,

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Milbury, and Hillsboro residents

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together. If you want more information,

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you can go on the CCFD website or ask

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anybody in H&N about it as well. Uh this

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is sort of the entry into the first

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being a community emergency response

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team member. Um and uh it's a good entry

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point for just starting out. Uh and the

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more cert members we have, as we always

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say, they're our biggest help as a force

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multiplier should we ever have an

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emergency here in town.

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We're going to have the H&N first

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quarter information session coming up.

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That'll be on February 11th from 6:30 to

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8:00 p.m. That's right here in the

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council chambers. And one of the guest

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speakers will be Heather Vandenberg.

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She's going to talk about her

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experiences

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uh down with the Palisades fire and it's

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a pretty harrowing story of her sort of

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evacuation and all the things that went

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on uh during that time as well as her

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relocation and sort of lessons learned.

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So it's a a one year later look back at

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that process and if you've never heard

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her story, it's it's pretty impressive.

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Uh again, that's February 11th here at

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the council chambers on the El Camino

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reality. You're going to notice a lot of

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uh work going on uh particularly uh

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right here in the Hillsboro Sanonteo

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Milbury area as they're doing their uh

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renewal project. Uh the work is going to

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be going on during the weekdays and uh

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during the daytime at this time right

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now that you know we may see some

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changes on that depending on what work

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needs to be done. Uh traffic is being

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relocated uh through Berlingame and

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Sanonteo. Uh we are trying to keep the

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re the redirection of traffic through

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Hillsboro as as low as possible. And I

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appreciate Paul Willis over there at

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public works who's been working pretty

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closely with uh CALR on making sure that

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we don't get our roadways flooded with

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motorists uh coming down to El Camino.

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Also on the tartan trail thing, this has

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been a topic a few times at past council

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meetings, but on November 10th, we

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awarded a design build contract to Power

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Engineering Construction Company. They

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are going to start work immediately on

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uh repairing this portion of the roadway

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uh down at Tartan Trail and Crystal

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Springs Road. This was a a decision made

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by the city council that uh the public

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safety is at the paramount here. So,

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we're going to start roadway work on it

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uh as soon as we can. There may be some

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funds that are recovered as a result of

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uh later on looking at all the

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responsible parties being involved and

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who should pay what their share of that

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is. But I think in the meantime, public

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safety wins out over everything else and

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we're going to be repairing it as soon

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as possible.

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On the website, if you go to current

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town projects, uh that's been on there

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for a while, but if you've never taken a

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look at it, this is a great place. And

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as you can see, the Tartan Trail

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emergency road repair is put on there.

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uh or as well as any other projects that

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we have going on in town. So, if you

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ever see something and you're kind of

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interested in in knowing what's going on

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there or what type of city project that

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is, this is a great place to go and kind

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of get that information off of our

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website.

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These are some upcoming

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meetings that are coming and these are

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always tentative and we post them, but

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these are our plans coming in the next

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few months as far as things we're going

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to bring back to the city council. Uh

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particular interest will be our water

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rates coming up in February and March.

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Um, and any questions from that, you can

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direct them to the to my office at the

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city manager. And then finally, our

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slide that we always end on is all the

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notification processes that we have. As

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we always say, uh, SMC alert is your

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lowest entry point. Everybody should

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have that on their phone. And then from

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there, it's a matter of just picking

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what works best for you. Uh, and as I

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always say, Nixel is probably one of the

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easiest uh, ones to use and allows you

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to get uh, sort of the baseline

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information. And then of course if you

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have any other uh interest in in my

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shake watch duty and also uh Genesis as

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far as evacuation zones those are good

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to have. But again if you just were

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going to pick one of these I would say

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SMC alert is the one to have and uh for

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a low entry point of just wanting basic

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information is a very userfriendly

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platform. Thank you ma'am.

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>> Thank you city manager Davis.

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The next item on

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>> May I make a comment? Yeah, sure.

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>> Uh I I just want to highlight that the

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uh Hillsboro CA mobile app is really

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user friendly and it's visually

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attractive. So I do encourage everyone

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to use it and get your information,

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phone numbers, emails, and all the most

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current update. And I just, you know,

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did the flash news and it does reflect

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it right away on the Tardan trails

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project. So fantastic.

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I'm sorry. What is that app again?

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>> Hillsboro

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CA mobile app.

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>> Okay. So, will that be added to our uh

542
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list of apps? Is it going to be on the

543
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000
Nixel or is it a separate app?

544
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,760
>> It's a it's an app that you have to

545
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,240
download

546
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,760
>> separate from Nixel. Okay.

547
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,559
>> Can we also go back two slides just to

548
00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:21,190
the goal setting day? Mhm.

549
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:31,590
» Um, go back two slides.

550
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,880
» Um, the one right before this. Oh, no.

551
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,120
This one. Uh, annual. No, I'm sorry. It

552
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,280
was It says annual goal setting. I want

553
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,720
to make sure everybody knows that

554
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:47,510
January 23rd is a Friday.

555
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,840
Oh, it's not a Monday.

556
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,120
It's February. It's supposed to be

557
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:51,840
February 23rd.

558
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,159
>> February 23rd. Okay. I was having a

559
00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:56,159
slight heart palpitation there when I

560
00:22:56,159 --> 00:22:58,000
thought, is it January or February?

561
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480
>> I I was too. I went to my Okay, so

562
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,919
>> that was my fault.

563
00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:03,919
>> My correct.

564
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:05,360
>> It's February.

565
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,559
>> February.

566
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,559
>> What? Great pickup.

567
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,080
>> Yes. Great pick up, Council Member

568
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,880
Adams. Thank you.

569
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:21,830
>> Thank you.

570
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,880
I ma'am, I'm so sorry. We're going to

571
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,960
have in just a moment the mayor here is

572
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,400
going to call for public comment and

573
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,080
that would be the perfect time. Just

574
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,520
give it just a moment.

575
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,280
>> Yes. And she you could just stay there

576
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,000
because um she could go next because I

577
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,600
will be focusing on items that are not

578
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,000
on the agenda. So go ahead and ask your

579
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480
question. Yes. My question is on Tatum

580
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,440
Trail at the bottom of the road. That's

581
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,200
always been construction for the past

582
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,840
few years. No, I mean no construction.

583
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,400
It's just coned off. What's going on

584
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,559
there?

585
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,760
And now there are some stop signs, but

586
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,080
still nobody's working on that area, but

587
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,799
it has been coned off for at least three

588
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:04,880
years.

589
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,640
>> Yeah. at that bottom area there. There's

590
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,159
always been stop signs there, but you

591
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:09,679
may have noticed they're moved due to

592
00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:11,520
some of the road codes that are there in

593
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,120
there as well. That's what I was just

594
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,640
talking about on that previous slide

595
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,559
where we've just awarded a contract, so

596
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,640
work should be starting there.

597
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,559
>> What's wrong with that part of the road?

598
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,880
>> The there's some uh I don't know all the

599
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,400
details about what's wrong with it. I

600
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,240
know there's some structural problems

601
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,159
underneath the roadway right at that

602
00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:29,679
area. There's a creek that runs under

603
00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:31,760
there, right? And that's uh been a

604
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760
concern. The area that's coned off so

605
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,760
that cars can't go over it is the area

606
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,600
of concern. The rest of the roadway is

607
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,919
safe, but it sort of narrows the roadway

608
00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:41,440
and our roads are already narrow, so

609
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,880
that's why we're going to get it fixed.

610
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,760
>> All right. Thank you.

611
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,320
>> You're welcome.

612
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840
>> Yeah.

613
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,960
>> Thank you. Thanks for that

614
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440
clarification. Okay. So, the next uh

615
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,720
public comment um is items that are not

616
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,880
on the agenda. Do we have any um anyone

617
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,200
in the public who wishes to make a

618
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
comment on items not on the agenda?

619
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,679
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any

620
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:03,840
speaker cards in chambers, but I'll give

621
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240
it a moment on Zoom if anyone would like

622
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,159
to make a comment on an item that's not

623
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:11,590
on the agenda.

624
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,870
» We'll give it a minute.

625
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,240
» Thank you. I'm I'm not seeing see.

626
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,600
>> Okay.

627
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,279
Seeing none,

628
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:27,200
>> um we will now um close public comment

629
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,279
on items not on the agenda and we will

630
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,760
move on to um announcements of conflict

631
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,279
of interest from the council from the

632
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,919
chambers. Any um conflict of interest

633
00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:39,679
from any of the council members on items

634
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:43,120
um on the on the consent calendar

635
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:47,909
or on the agenda?

636
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:52,320
» None. See not. Okay. Um,

637
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,480
for item four, resolution authorizing

638
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,159
compensation and benefits adjustments

639
00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:58,320
for unrepresented employees. The Brown

640
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720
Act requires a verbal report of the

641
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,799
recommendations for final action on the

642
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:05,120
salary or compensation paid in the form

643
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,600
of fringe benefits of a local agency

644
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240
executive during the open meeting in

645
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,919
which the final action is to take place

646
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:13,279
which includes the department head

647
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,600
positions and in the unrepresented

648
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,000
group. The salary adjustments included

649
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,640
4% cost of living increase for the

650
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,559
assistant city manager, chief of police,

651
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:23,919
director of finance, director of

652
00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:26,080
building and planning, and director of

653
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,919
public works. And I will

654
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:33,760
now discuss the um new annual salaries.

655
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,269
Assistant city manager $242,247.80.

656
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:43,510
Chief of Police 273,292

657
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,320
um uh dollars47

658
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,559
Director of Building and Planning

659
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,590
266,4287

660
00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:00,149
Director of Finance 266,4287

661
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:05,190
and director of public works 284,3134.

662
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,720
The city manager salary will be

663
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,640
evaluated in the upcoming months in

664
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,000
conjunction with this performance

665
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,600
appraisal.

666
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,279
Would any of my colleagues like to

667
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:16,000
remove any um items from the consent

668
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,279
calendar?

669
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,120
>> I just have a comment on item seven.

670
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,440
>> I would like to remove item six and I

671
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,230
have a question on item eight.

672
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:36,549
» Any other items to be removed or noted?

673
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:41,919
Okay. Um, so let's move forward and vote

674
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:45,039
on the items that are not removed. Uh,

675
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:46,799
any other items to be removed?

676
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,559
>> I I don't need to remove seven. I just

677
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:49,520
have a comment on it.

678
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,799
>> Okay, go ahead.

679
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,279
>> I just wanted to um introduce Matt Ken

680
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,159
is in the um audience here. He is the

681
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:59,279
member who has been our current um

682
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,480
alternate on the ADRB and um is proposed

683
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,600
tonight to step up to the uh seat that's

684
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,320
been ve vacated by long-erving well

685
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,640
esteemed member Kathleen Egan. So I want

686
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,880
to welcome Matt.

687
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:21,590
>> Welcome Matt and thank you.

688
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,279
Okay, we will then um before we comment,

689
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,279
we have two other items, six and eight,

690
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:28,720
that have been removed for further

691
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,880
discussion, but can we move forward and

692
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,399
vote on the

693
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:35,679
>> um

694
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:37,760
>> Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Eight is a question.

695
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Um you can go ahead and

696
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,559
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh on eight in

697
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,840
the project schedule and timeline in

698
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,559
phase one uh it mentions that town staff

699
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:55,679
provides feedback on the poll draft and

700
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:58,880
then it says the poll is finalized and

701
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,320
approved by town staff and city

702
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,320
attorney. So my question is, is there a

703
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,880
role for the council in looking at those

704
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,389
drafts as you envision it?

705
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:18,720
» Thank you. Um

706
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,039
that's how it was written in terms of

707
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,159
involving council. Uh we would staff

708
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:27,120
would be working with either a subset of

709
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,799
council just to make sure that we're

710
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,279
getting input. And I do have uh Brian

711
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,200
Godby who's one of the consultants that

712
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440
has worked with many other jurisdictions

713
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600
and and uh he was able to provide some

714
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,279
examples on how they've done it in other

715
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,120
jurisdictions. If if you would like

716
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,310
Brian to speak to this question.

717
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,399
» No, I I think that's that's helpful that

718
00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:50,559
you had that concept. So Okay. Thank

719
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:50,799
you.

720
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,080
>> Okay. All right. Thanks, Brian.

721
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
>> Um um I have a follow-up clarification

722
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,720
on item eight. This is specifically for

723
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,159
um the research that will relate to

724
00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:05,919
finance. Correct. So so will they be

725
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:07,440
meeting with the finance advisory

726
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,640
committee?

727
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,240
>> Yes, I would imagine they'd be working

728
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,120
with various bodies of council and uh

729
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,799
FAC uh to get input. But this is for the

730
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,200
potential revenue measure um that was

731
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120
discussed during the long-term financial

732
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
uh funding strategy. Um, and so we have

733
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,159
it's a joint proposal with team civics

734
00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:28,559
and Godby research to do the both the

735
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:30,480
survey work and the communications to

736
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,480
support any outreach related to a

737
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
potential revenue measure.

738
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,320
>> Council, I'm sorry, let let me just

739
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,880
finish my follow-up question. Um,

740
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,600
Council Member Krik is the um,

741
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760
commissioner on the finance advisory

742
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,760
committee and I have been sitting in on

743
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,320
some of those meetings. But just for

744
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880
clarification from council member Adams,

745
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
are you asking for the entire council to

746
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,080
review the specifics in terms of the

747
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000
polling before they move forward? Is

748
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840
that what you would like to see?

749
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,919
>> Well, my question is based in two

750
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,480
things. one, I think we will receive a

751
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
lot of questions about this and we

752
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,480
should know about it before it goes out,

753
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,919
but in thinking about it, if we're all

754
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,559
involved, it will be a public document

755
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:20,720
and that could in fact influence how the

756
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,880
results come in. So I think it's a

757
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,039
tricky balance but my question was

758
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,640
answered I think adequately that there

759
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,440
will be either a subcommittee or a way

760
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,240
of dealing with input from the council

761
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,640
and input from the facus. So that's fine with me

762
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,440
>> and the may regardless of whether or not

763
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,440
the council members are in that giving

764
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,360
that direct input council members all

765
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,960
council members will be briefed um

766
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
throughout the project so given regular

767
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440
project updates

768
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080
>> um through the mayor. Yes, council

769
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,760
member strong.

770
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,039
>> I I'll say this. Uh polling is a a

771
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,760
specific science and usually there are

772
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,600
language that when they pull there are

773
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,840
specific language that is going to go to

774
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640
the measure ballot ballot measures that

775
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,240
is going to be reflecting that is the same language that will be going

776
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120
out. Since Brian is on the on the Zoom

777
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,919
already, how about if we just have him

778
00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:19,360
walk us through briefly as to what are

779
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,960
the process so that it gives us some

780
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,159
clarity?

781
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:25,760
>> Well, I think um that's a very good

782
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,279
point. I think what would be helpful

783
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,600
from Mr. from Mr. Godby would be um

784
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,960
would do you think it would be

785
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,279
appropriate or necessary or useful for

786
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,159
the entire council to see

787
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:39,919
I mean we clearly cannot discuss what

788
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:41,200
you're going to pull because that would

789
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,519
affect your outcome in terms of

790
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,320
>> the scientific basis of your conclusion.

791
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,960
So is there specific um information you

792
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120
would like from the council before you

793
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,880
exercise the questioning for your

794
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,720
polling? What if you could comment on

795
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,519
that?

796
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,679
>> Uh yeah certainly. Uh thank you, Madame

797
00:32:57,679 --> 00:32:59,760
Mayor, members of the council. Uh I'm

798
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,159
Brian Godby from Godby Research. Uh our

799
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:05,279
best practice is is to uh solicit and

800
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,039
welcome in input on the front end of

801
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:10,640
drafting the questionnaire. And so

802
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,039
whether that is an ad hoc uh committee

803
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,279
of the council or your finance

804
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,919
committee, obviously staff plays a huge

805
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:20,799
role in that. Um but also sometimes we

806
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,760
do uh interview individual staff members

807
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,200
if they're not on one of those

808
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120
committees. Um but the [clears throat]

809
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080
idea is to get information in that helps

810
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,799
in the drafting. But we don't want to

811
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:35,120
take a doc a final document or a close

812
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,200
to final document to a public meeting

813
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,600
because as you've all kind of alluded to

814
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,440
that biases the survey. [clears throat]

815
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
You have a whole bunch of people who

816
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,039
wind up being uh prompted by what's in

817
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:48,799
the survey. they prompt their friends

818
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,679
for answers and it and we can't track

819
00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:53,919
that. So, we want to try to avoid that

820
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:55,600
because we don't know what that bias

821
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,159
might introduce. Uh but we certainly

822
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:01,200
welcome input from uh the council

823
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,960
members on the front end in whatever

824
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600
fashion uh is customary.

825
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000
>> Okay. All right. That's helpful. Is that

826
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,760
sufficient council member Adams? Okay.

827
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,399
Great. So, items seven and eight were

828
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:15,200
questions clarified. Um so, we can

829
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359
proceed. Item six is being pulled for

830
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:19,919
further discussion. Is that correct? And

831
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,159
I'm sorry, who pulled that again?

832
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,079
>> Okay, items. So, could we move forward

833
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,839
and approve everything except item six?

834
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:34,960
So, um for items 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10. So

835
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,839
moved.

836
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:37,599
>> Second.

837
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,760
>> May we have the roll call, please?

838
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000
>> Adams. Yes. Trunk.

839
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,679
>> I kic.

840
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,000
>> Bragg. I call

841
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,119
>> I

842
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,119
>> Okay, we'll move forward to discuss item

843
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,280
six, resolution adopting the town of

844
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,109
Hillsboro legislative platform

845
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,839
» and council member Adams, you may start

846
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:02,240
the conversation.

847
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,560
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh, I pulled

848
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,359
this just to uh actually expand one of

849
00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:14,000
the additions and uh this is for the

850
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,200
environment item number uh E, the new E

851
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
in the environment. It's on page 52 in

852
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,760
our documents and it's on page three of

853
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,000
this uh document. And what it does is it

854
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,720
takes exactly what was written and it

855
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,839
expands it slightly so that we're also

856
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:40,560
looking for not just uh as it is

857
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920
currently written is uh facilitates uh

858
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,720
polluters pay for consequences. It

859
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,960
actually talks about the possibility

860
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,640
that there could be legislation or

861
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,079
policies that provide incentives

862
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:57,040
as well as disincentives. And I think

863
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,119
that's a a broader way of looking at

864
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:00,880
this issue particularly in the

865
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,040
environment. And I think all it does is

866
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
expand the possibilities of things that

867
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,680
we could that could be brought to our

868
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,920
attention.

869
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,599
Um uh were you um recommending

870
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:20,240
um a an amendment to the letter that

871
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,000
I'm not sure exactly will you sub

872
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,760
submitting this as an amendment? It's

873
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,560
not clear to me. So there is a

874
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,160
redlinined version of this and it adds

875
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,320
the words support legislation that

876
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920
requires or facilitates polluters to pay

877
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,079
for the consequences of environmental

878
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,640
damage. And I am suggesting we change

879
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,760
that to support legislation and policies

880
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,320
that provide incentives to and

881
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,280
disincentives against protecting the

882
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,680
environment from pollution, including

883
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,440
holding polluters accountable for

884
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,520
environmental damage they may cause.

885
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560
>> Yeah, sure. That sounds great. Um, any

886
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,720
other comments along those lines? Uh,

887
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:07,599
>> I'm I'm in strong support of that and appreciate the the thoughts there.

888
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:08,960
Thank you.

889
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,640
If that's a motion, I would second that

890
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,280
motion.

891
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,320
>> Okay. All in favor of that.

892
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,040
>> Mayor Co.

893
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,400
>> And one Wait, I'm sorry.

894
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,520
>> Before you take the vote, I just want to

895
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,640
make sure since you've discussed this

896
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,839
item that we don't have any public

897
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:21,200
comment related to it.

898
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,160
>> Oh, yes. Any public comments on this

899
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,480
specific um on page 52 under environment

900
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,040
item E. Anything from the public?

901
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole.

902
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,800
I'll just wait for a moment to see if

903
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,320
there's anyone who has any comments on

904
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,320
Zoom. I don't see any raised hands.

905
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Thank you.

906
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:45,280
>> Okay. Any further comments from the

907
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,000
council?

908
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,200
>> While we're at it, we should probably

909
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:56,230
fix the typo under C policies.

910
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,880
» Oh, thank you.

911
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,880
>> Policies, not policies. Okay. Amendos.

912
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,280
Got it. Okay. Um any further comments

913
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,440
from the council? Seeing none, we will

914
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,920
do we have a motion for um to approve

915
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,359
item six on the consent calendar.

916
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:15,280
>> So move.

917
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,760
>> Do we have a second?

918
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,119
>> Second.

919
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:20,800
>> All those in favor say I.

920
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,200
>> I.

921
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,400
I.

922
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,800
>> I. Okay.

923
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Carry. Five to zero. Thank you.

924
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,230
>> Thank you.

925
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,400
The next item on our agenda is

926
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,760
considered old business

927
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,839
telecommunications updates to discuss

928
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:39,520
and provide direction on the scope of

929
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,960
projects based on community feedback which will

930
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,040
be presented by assistant city manager

931
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,470
Mandy Brown.

932
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,839
» Thank you, Mayor Cole. Um, so I will

933
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,880
just be providing a brief overview of

934
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,880
really a lot of information that we've

935
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,599
received from residents via community

936
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,960
meetings, email, um, and our goal

937
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,359
tonight is to really get consensus

938
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:08,800
around are these the correct needs? um

939
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,320
getting direction from the council,

940
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,680
making sure that we're on the right

941
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,960
track with the goal of using this to

942
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,640
create a RFP to get subject matter

943
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,760
experts, one or multiple, to create a

944
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,480
path forward and solutions. So, making

945
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,800
sure that we have the right buckets for

946
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640
discussion and that we're not missing

947
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,400
anything or we don't want anything

948
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040
reframed. Are we off the mark? um so

949
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,480
that we can create a very clear uh list

950
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960
of needs for a subject matter expert to

951
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,480
develop solutions for the town

952
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440
customized for Hillsboro. Um so I'll

953
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,390
just go through a brief

954
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,200
very brief background um about the sort

955
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,720
of wireless goal. it has been um on our

956
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,320
goal setting uh sessions uh for several

957
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,800
years. Um and so really looking to

958
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,280
define that goal statement. What are we

959
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,680
trying to achieve? Um we can will

960
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,839
continue to discuss this topic at goal

961
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,240
setting as it relates to the budget. um

962
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,560
as we get a sense of what is the project

963
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,320
that we're undertaking, what sort of

964
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
resources do we need to allocate and a

965
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,839
timeline so that the council and uh the

966
00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:23,280
public know uh what to be able to expect

967
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,160
in terms of work product output. Uh when

968
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,880
is something going to going to happen um

969
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,920
that's tangible.

970
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,839
Uh we did have a community meeting in

971
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:35,760
October to really restart this

972
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160
conversation, start fresh and talk about

973
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560
goals for telecommunications in Hillsbor

974
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,800
really in a broad level and hear about

975
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,760
residents experiences.

976
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Uh there is in a summary of that meeting

977
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,400
uh prepared by Peninsula Conflict

978
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,880
Resource Center which uh provided

979
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640
facilitators for the meeting to make

980
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,160
sure that we captured all of the small

981
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,160
group discussions um and comments made.

982
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000
This is a very high level. There's a lot

983
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,839
more detail in the report in attachment

984
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:05,520
one, but I just wanted to make sure we

985
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,520
captured some of the biggest buckets

986
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,640
related to undergrounding wires, um,

987
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,440
locating towers away from homes, making

988
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,839
sure that everyone everyone has reliable

989
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:18,079
connectivity. Uh, making sure there's

990
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,040
emergency power, eliminating macro

991
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,839
towers, and exploring cost-effective

992
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:26,400
solutions for carriers, as well as

993
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,880
maintaining a consistent strong signal

994
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,829
uh, even during power outages.

995
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,640
So the meeting objective um I said at

996
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,760
the beginning of the meeting is really

997
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,079
to re review these draft needs. So I'll

998
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,400
just go through them briefly um and

999
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,040
offer some additional uh color and the

1000
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,119
PowerPoint was an attachment in the in

1001
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,440
the uh staff report just so everybody

1002
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,359
got a chance to see it beforehand and

1003
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:53,520
really just looking to see to affirm the

1004
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,560
scope and discuss any prioritization um

1005
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,670
if if there are uh comments about that.

1006
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,119
So these [clears throat] are the six

1007
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:04,880
buckets that are listed in the staff

1008
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,359
report drawing from that community

1009
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,040
meeting as well as other feedback

1010
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,880
received. And I'll just go through them

1011
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
one at a time with the first one being

1012
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,599
uh utilities undergrounding. Um,

1013
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,920
currently this was identified as a goal

1014
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560
during last year's goal setting session

1015
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,400
and so staff has been working with an

1016
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400
engineering consultant to really

1017
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,440
understand what amount of utilities

1018
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,680
remain needed to be undergrounded in

1019
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,920
town and what would the total cost be to

1020
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,240
underground the remaining utilities in

1021
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:37,200
town. Um, the project is ongoing so I

1022
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,880
don't have a final report right now.

1023
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,480
They're still collecting data. Um, we're

1024
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,119
actually waiting for some PG& data. Um,

1025
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,280
but once we have all of that data, we'll

1026
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,960
be able to present that back. But

1027
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,400
currently, it's looking like the

1028
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000
percentage of homes with underground

1029
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:56,160
utilities is around 70%. And I do have a draft map. Um, so we will be refining

1030
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,599
this with the green um showing the areas

1031
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,359
in town that are that are underground

1032
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:03,599
for homes. Um, like I said, it's still

1033
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,839
in progress. So, we will have a final

1034
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:07,520
report to deliver, but this is just a

1035
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,839
progress update of where we are um on

1036
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:13,359
this topic currently.

1037
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,440
fiber connectivity was another area of

1038
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,119
need that we heard at the community

1039
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,480
meeting. Um and so really to identify

1040
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,359
and affirm that need. Um there are maps

1041
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:26,800
available uh through uh the FCC. Um and

1042
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,400
at the third bullet point that

1043
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,750
broadbandmap.fcc.govhome

1044
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,760
you can plug in the town of Hillsboro

1045
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,280
and you can plug in your specific

1046
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,400
address um to see if you're covered by

1047
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,040
fiber. Um there's different speeds and

1048
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,480
so we used the state standard. Um and as

1049
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
of right now the latest FCC map shows

1050
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920
that there are approximately 1,600 units

1051
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,880
covered or about 41%. Um and if you feel

1052
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,040
like there's an error like it says that

1053
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,800
you're covered by fiber but you're not

1054
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,119
actually, you can report that um on that

1055
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,440
same map. Um so just affirming that

1056
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,200
there are areas um areas that have

1057
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,880
access to fiber and then there are

1058
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,119
geographic areas that have that don't

1059
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,200
have access to fiber. So one of the

1060
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,480
goals being equity and access um that

1061
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,680
that's not that is not achieved as it

1062
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,160
relates to fiber currently. So it is a

1063
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,160
possible area of need to include in that

1064
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,119
study. And on the map you can zoom in a

1065
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:26,640
lot more. I just took a highle

1066
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,829
screenshot um for you to be able to see.

1067
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:33,680
The next area of needs is cellular

1068
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,920
service. So recognizing the deficiencies

1069
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000
in cellular service within throughout

1070
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640
town. There is also a cellular service

1071
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,760
coverage map through that FCC database.

1072
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,760
Um and they are required to report the

1073
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,280
data twice a year. Um and the map shows

1074
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,880
83.45%

1075
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,240
of town covered for 5G service. um where

1076
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,760
there are but you'll also see there are

1077
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560
areas that have very poor service. Uh

1078
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,280
however, there is a a disclaimer saying

1079
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,440
that it is based on the propagation

1080
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,640
modeling and a user's actual experience

1081
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,280
may be different. So I would say it's

1082
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,440
likely that that's very generous um in

1083
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,359
terms of your real access to cell

1084
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:15,839
service. Um but it's a starting point.

1085
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:17,520
Um and I think we heard strongly from

1086
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640
the community anecdotally that u this is

1087
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,359
a strong area of need uh in the town

1088
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:25,520
making sure that there are we fix the

1089
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,319
deficiencies in cell service.

1090
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:30,720
Again here's that uh screenshot showing

1091
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,359
sort of dead spots in town and it really

1092
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:35,040
is just sort of a percentage within

1093
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,000
those um hexagons. And then you can

1094
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,400
again zoom in closer um plug in your

1095
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,640
address, plug in your school and see the

1096
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,359
access um as it relates to 5G wireless

1097
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:49,589
service.

1098
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,319
Uh next one is power backup solutions um

1099
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:55,520
and make so in addition to the actual

1100
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
fiber or wireless service making sure

1101
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,400
that there's a reliable power supply. Uh

1102
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,640
while the town is not responsible for

1103
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,720
providing the actual we don't have our

1104
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,119
electric utility um there are solutions

1105
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,599
that the town could explore um as this

1106
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,680
is identified as a need to help support

1107
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,680
residents to obtain the battery backup

1108
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839
solutions looking at grant funded

1109
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,079
programs public education ways to

1110
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:19,920
connect residents to ensure that they

1111
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,349
have access to backup solutions.

1112
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:27,200
And then this is about balancing town

1113
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,359
aesthetics with any wireless

1114
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:31,760
communication facility installations. We

1115
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,599
do have existing policies and

1116
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,680
regulations related that kind of govern

1117
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,040
the installation of wireless

1118
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520
telecommunications. Um we could explore

1119
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,640
modifications to these documents. Um

1120
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,040
modifications may result in reduced

1121
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,839
control. Um and on that sort of same

1122
00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:50,640
notion, um currently the town's part of

1123
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440
a national coalition opposing FCC

1124
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,520
proceedings that are seeking to reduce

1125
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520
that local authority as it relates to

1126
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,720
wireless um and wired uh installation

1127
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,440
facilities installation. Uh we've joined

1128
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,599
those coalitions through um our city

1129
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,800
attorney BBNK uh to demonstrate our

1130
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,560
opposition to those efforts and we're

1131
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,520
joined with many other jurisdictions um

1132
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,040
that have had similar experiences to

1133
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,880
ours. we've been able to share our

1134
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,400
experiences

1135
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
um and sort of fight some of these

1136
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,760
claims um that are we feel exaggerated.

1137
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,079
And I do have we do have Gail Carish um

1138
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,160
partner with BBK who has helped lead

1139
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,560
some of these efforts and can speak to

1140
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,359
um to this topic a lot better than I can

1141
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:37,520
um if there are follow-up questions.

1142
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,359
And the last one we heard is we heard um

1143
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,760
some explore alternative technologies to

1144
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,319
improve connectivity. Um this is

1145
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:47,839
anything from new wireless providers to

1146
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:51,280
satellite. Um and we did we have heard

1147
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
um that sort of the main providers of

1148
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,560
Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile have been

1149
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,200
deploying satellite. Um it's in a growth

1150
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,680
stage. Um from what we've heard it

1151
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,520
requires a large number of satellites to

1152
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160
be in orbit orbit and uh latency is

1153
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
another issue but it is something that

1154
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,760
uh we could include in the needs

1155
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,440
assessment. Again, looking at these

1156
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,359
buckets, affirming these are all areas

1157
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:15,760
of needs um and asking a subject matter

1158
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,000
expert to to develop those solutions.

1159
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,960
And so, keeping this uh as a as a

1160
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,040
possible option um to come back with

1161
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,160
some ideas.

1162
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,920
So, those are the six buckets that are

1163
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,720
listed um in the the uh staff report.

1164
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,800
And so, what we would be looking for

1165
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,440
council direction is are these the right

1166
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,280
areas of need? Are there specific are

1167
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,040
there follow-up information that you

1168
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,160
need before being able to um identify

1169
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,000
them as an area I need? We can modify

1170
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200
them. Um and what we'd like to do is is

1171
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,480
get that nailed down so that we can

1172
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,920
issue the RFP to get to um begin that

1173
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,760
work and that sort of master plan for

1174
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,160
the town moving forward. Um so that we

1175
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,119
can understand the time frame cost and

1176
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,800
the compatibility with the town's

1177
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,280
existing infrastructure and landscape.

1178
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Um, and in the background of all that,

1179
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,240
we'll continue to have legal and

1180
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,280
regulatory issues monitored, um, and

1181
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,960
update the council and the community

1182
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,359
with any, uh, new information as it

1183
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:18,710
arises.

1184
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:22,079
» Um, thank you, um, Mandy Brown. Um, that

1185
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,040
was, uh, this is a very, um, not only

1186
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,800
urgent but needed conversation. we

1187
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,800
continue to discuss this but um I will

1188
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,720
start by asking my um council members if

1189
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,480
they have my colleagues if they have any

1190
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,079
additional questions for clarifications

1191
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,000
and then we'll get into a discussion. So

1192
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,440
we'll just start with some clarifying

1193
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,870
questions.

1194
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,200
Okay, Vice Mayor Rexdale,

1195
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,319
>> thank you. Thank you for the uh summary

1196
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:52,880
and the and the detailed staff report.

1197
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,240
Mandy. Um I had my questions are very

1198
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,880
basic and they will show my ignorance on

1199
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,720
and age on this topic. Um the first is

1200
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:07,119
um fiber. Uh okay, two questions about

1201
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,160
fiber. One, I presume there's some I

1202
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,920
know it's not in our control, but

1203
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,319
there's some areas that will probably

1204
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:17,280
never get fiber because

1205
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,000
of the topography.

1206
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,240
Is that

1207
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,920
not necessarily the case? Okay. Okay. So

1208
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,599
that so that's a question that I would

1209
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:32,240
have I guess for um going forward uh the

1210
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,480
possibilities for fiber and then what

1211
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,800
can fiber do? Can you get cell service

1212
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,119
through you if you're getting your

1213
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,119
internet can you get cell service

1214
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,000
through through the fiber or can you

1215
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,119
only do that through towers?

1216
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:50,640
Um

1217
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,800
then um I wanted to clarify just based

1218
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,680
on a public comment that we received

1219
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,640
that there are not any applications

1220
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,160
right now for cell towers. Is that

1221
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,880
correct to come into Hillsboro

1222
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,079
>> currently? No, we do not have

1223
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:12,480
applications. I I we got a detailed

1224
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,280
public comment that talked about a tower

1225
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,280
near a school and they were probably

1226
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,400
talking about past applications. Um so I

1227
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,359
just wanted to clarify that. Um another

1228
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:26,640
thing I'd like to see

1229
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,680
um well I guess that's a comment so I

1230
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,599
won't won't ask that. Um oh

1231
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,960
uh latency for satellite does that mean

1232
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,240
delay? Okay. Um, those are my questions

1233
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:41,920
at the time. Thank you.

1234
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,559
>> Any additional question?

1235
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,559
>> All showing ignorance.

1236
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,040
>> Um, no additional questions. We we'll

1237
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,920
move to the

1238
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,000
>> I'm sorry. Um, council member Bwang

1239
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,280
additional questions.

1240
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,960
>> Uh, just for clarifications. Um on the

1241
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,800
fibers map, the the large one, there's

1242
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,839
um there are the the the large white uh

1243
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:07,839
oxyagon that really basically saying

1244
00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:11,040
that it's a 0 to 20%

1245
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,000
um of coverage, I'm assuming. And then

1246
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,920
right next to it is 40 to 60 to 80% of

1247
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,200
coverage. Uh is are there uh information

1248
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,910
on why that was the case?

1249
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,480
» There there's not really information on

1250
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,200
why but it's a dynamic map. So when you

1251
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,960
zoom in you get to see a little bit

1252
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,000
more. So I didn't want to zoom in I

1253
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,760
don't want to have specific households

1254
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,440
uh on that level of zoom but I did

1255
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,680
provide the the URL so you can drill

1256
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,760
down and you can see it at a a smaller

1257
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,839
scale. Um but yeah there was no

1258
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:53,520
explanation provided for why there are

1259
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,760
the gaps in coverage just shows them.

1260
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,240
>> So to help me understand this on the

1261
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,720
first glance there's the whiteness which

1262
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,440
means it's zero fiber activities

1263
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,720
whatsoever

1264
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:08,160
>> and as you zoom zoom in closer you will

1265
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,079
be able to see more details and there

1266
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:15,119
are households that probably have better

1267
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,599
uh positions or fibers. Is that correct?

1268
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,160
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a fascinating map. You

1269
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,520
can actually drill down to specific

1270
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,680
culde-sacs where some houses have it,

1271
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680
some don't. And then there's big swats

1272
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,599
of areas that are just completely they

1273
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,520
have red dots and and green dots.

1274
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,280
There's bunch of red dots that don't

1275
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,119
have access to fiber. And then right on

1276
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:36,720
the other side of the street, there's a

1277
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:38,640
bunch of green dots. So based on their

1278
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,160
records,

1279
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,480
it's it's a very interesting map. I I

1280
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,920
don't know that can't speak to the rhyme

1281
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,680
or reason as to why some have it and

1282
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,920
some don't. and and it's not the

1283
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,640
wireless activities, it's the fiber

1284
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,920
activities.

1285
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,680
>> They have multiple on here. So this um

1286
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,880
this is the map for fiber. Um and then

1287
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,800
this is what they have on wireless 5G

1288
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,119
service. But as I said, they have that

1289
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,680
strong disclaimer saying that it's based

1290
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,000
on the propagation modeling. Your actual

1291
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,119
service may vary due to terrain, for

1292
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,599
example. So I put this up there, but I

1293
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:18,720
don't want it to to be um saying that

1294
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:21,440
the in better wireless service is not a

1295
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,359
need. It's just this is what the FCC

1296
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:26,240
data has and even at that sort of higher

1297
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,839
level it's still showing gaps in

1298
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:28,800
coverage.

1299
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,160
>> So the map is basically a reference but

1300
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,599
it doesn't indicate um specific

1301
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:39,359
residents as to whether they have good

1302
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:40,640
services or not.

1303
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,800
>> Right? And again it's just affirming

1304
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,640
that need. We did hear anecdotally at

1305
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,559
the meetings and obviously through

1306
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,520
public comment over years that wireless

1307
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520
service is a challenge in Hillsboro.

1308
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,680
>> Thank you. Um just to follow up on that

1309
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,400
in terms of my questions specifically

1310
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,720
you would like us to focus our

1311
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:01,920
conversation around what information

1312
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,880
would we want from a consultant that

1313
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,240
would address improved connectivity for

1314
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,480
both wireless

1315
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,520
um and of course broadband internet fast

1316
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,800
internet etc. So, we're going to discuss

1317
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,680
this and the qu and you you're asking us

1318
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,440
to say what are the questions you would

1319
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,839
like the consultant to answer?

1320
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:26,000
>> Yes, those those sort of six buckets,

1321
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,920
right? Um are those the right buckets?

1322
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Is there anything specific under there

1323
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,079
that you want to make sure that that

1324
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,160
staff mentions in the RFP that we get an

1325
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,040
answer to?

1326
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,880
>> Got you. Um we're going to go to the

1327
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,480
public for public comments and we'll

1328
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,960
come back and discuss this further. Any

1329
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,240
um public comments?

1330
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,800
Thank you, Mayor Cole. Patrick Shannon.

1331
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,069
>> Hello, Patrick. Welcome.

1332
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:52,880
» How are you?

1333
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,040
>> I'm fine, thanks. Good to see you.

1334
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,599
>> Nice to see you, council members. Happy

1335
00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:58,799
New Year to you all.

1336
00:55:58,799 --> 00:55:59,760
>> Yeah, same to you.

1337
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,000
>> So, I just wanted to comment on the

1338
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,240
subject at hand here. And to mix a

1339
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,079
metaphor, I want to put a plug in for

1340
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,559
satellite.

1341
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,760
Now satellite as you mentioned is a fast

1342
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,640
growing but nent technology but I think

1343
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,119
it stands to afford a lot of benefits to

1344
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:19,440
the town because it's a relatively

1345
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,280
lowcost option and it will uh provide

1346
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,640
reliability and more safety and it will

1347
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,520
only expand over time. So I think what you already produced was that the

1348
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,480
ma major carriers all already have

1349
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,920
satellite that goes to your phone. AT&T,

1350
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,880
T-Mobile, and Verizon. And that

1351
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
technology is

1352
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,720
improving significantly and somewhat at

1353
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,839
a fast pace because satellite technology

1354
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:56,319
is proliferating in the atmosphere. So

1355
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:58,400
over time I think it's only going to

1356
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,200
improve.

1357
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Uh experts are counting on this for the

1358
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,160
future as well. It's very popular in

1359
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,880
Europe and now it's been very popular

1360
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,079
now across the United States mostly at

1361
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,319
this point as a point of resilience and

1362
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:19,520
reliability in case the cell towers or

1363
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,280
other uh modes of communication go down.

1364
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,760
But as that's proving itself out over

1365
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,480
time, it's getting more robust. So for

1366
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960
example, the major carriers right now

1367
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,920
not only have the phone technology, but

1368
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,319
they have connectivity to apps like

1369
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:38,880
WhatsApp or Google apps. So you could

1370
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,119
use that in town uh to navigate or in

1371
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,839
the case of an emergency. So I think we

1372
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:47,760
should focus on that because that

1373
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,119
technology is futureproof and it will

1374
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:53,920
only get better with time. And it's low

1375
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,520
cost,

1376
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,680
works with your existing phone and um it

1377
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,520
also uh is really no infrastructure. No

1378
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,520
additional infrastructure is needed and

1379
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,119
it would avoid the cost of

1380
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,760
infrastructure as well as the visual

1381
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,280
blight of heavy infrastructure in town.

1382
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,520
So this won't be the only solution, but

1383
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,839
I'm encouraging you to definitely put it

1384
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:20,079
on your list because this is something

1385
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,640
that can certainly complement and in the

1386
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,559
future and overtake all other

1387
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,559
technologies.

1388
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:28,000
Other people will comment on other

1389
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,000
areas, but that's my piece today.

1390
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,520
>> Thank you. That's very informative.

1391
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Appreciate that. Um any additional

1392
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,960
comments? So um

1393
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:44,630
>> yes, thank you Paul on Zoom public.

1394
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,559
Yes. Hello. Thank you. Um, this is a

1395
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,040
timely, well, I would say timely topic,

1396
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,280
but it's been a problem vexing the town

1397
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,960
for 15 to 20 years. The problem is

1398
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,839
really, really simple. We have lots of

1399
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:02,960
trees, we have lots of hills, and we

1400
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,200
have no cell towers.

1401
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,680
That's the reason that there's basically

1402
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,400
no way to make a phone call anywhere

1403
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,040
outside of your house on Wi-Fi. And

1404
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,359
that's only if you're lucky if Comcast

1405
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:17,839
happens to be working. Myself, I've

1406
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:19,920
spent several thousands of dollars at my

1407
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,319
house, supplementing Comcast with

1408
00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:24,960
Starlink satellite technology and

1409
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,119
others, connecting them so I can have 7

1410
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,240
by 24 reception. So now the satellite

1411
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720
technology its major flaw is you have to

1412
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,680
be able to see the sky. Hills being a

1413
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,880
town again filled with trees and filled

1414
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,599
with hills. In my house there's only a

1415
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,599
very narrow window that actually has

1416
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,240
visibility to the Starlink satellites,

1417
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,599
but I take advantage of it. Um if you're

1418
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,839
walking around or in use, it's it's

1419
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:54,000
going to be a challenge. The

1420
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,319
straightforward, simple, lowcost,

1421
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:00,640
globally standardized solution for this

1422
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,920
is please can we put up about a dozen

1423
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,240
cell towers which will cover the

1424
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,680
majority of the town, provide really

1425
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,640
good phone coverage, really good

1426
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,040
services for our first responders,

1427
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,440
really good access for safety at our

1428
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,559
schools, and can be done in fairly

1429
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,319
unobtrusive of ways that will minimize

1430
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:29,040
the effects on the nimi property owners

1431
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160
who are so vehemently against it. Again,

1432
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,359
I implore you all, it's been decades

1433
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,839
that we've had this problem. We study

1434
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:41,280
it, we look at it, it gets blocked every

1435
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,760
time by the the, you know, the vocal

1436
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,160
opponents, but it's really so

1437
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,880
straightforward and self-funding. you

1438
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,480
know, the carriers will pay to put it in

1439
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,799
if we hadn't been blocking and suing

1440
01:00:54,799 --> 01:00:57,760
them, you know, to prevent them. But if

1441
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,640
we change our, you know, our methods, if

1442
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,240
we if we have the will, we can provide

1443
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,119
really good Silicon Valley level

1444
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,520
connectivity and way of life for all of

1445
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,920
our residents. Let's just put in a dozen

1446
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,880
cell towers, please. Thank you very

1447
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,839
much.

1448
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:18,079
>> Thank you, Mr. Freriedman.

1449
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,720
Um, additional comments. I see we have

1450
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,200
John on.

1451
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,870
>> Yes. Thank you,

1452
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,040
» John, if you're able to unmute. There

1453
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:29,520
you go.

1454
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,359
>> All right. Uh, can you hear me?

1455
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:32,480
>> Yes.

1456
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,520
>> Hello. This is John Lavich. Um, and I I

1457
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,839
appreciate this uh topic being on the

1458
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:41,680
agenda tonight. Um, I want to focus in

1459
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,799
on I want to say it's the letter F. I I

1460
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:46,000
can't remember from the slide, but it's

1461
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,319
the aesthetics. uh the the balance

1462
01:01:48,319 --> 01:01:51,040
between the town's needs for cell towers

1463
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,559
and the aesthetics of it. Um I too

1464
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,400
believe that the answer is going to be

1465
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,760
an all of the above. Uh in a complicated

1466
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,640
town like we have um a mix of satellite,

1467
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,599
a mix of fiber, uh a mix of of some some

1468
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,920
uh wireless infrastructure. Um and

1469
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,839
there's some really good ways to do it.

1470
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:14,240
Um, I'd like the town to consider

1471
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,839
exploring um partnering with the SFPU

1472
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:21,200
and PG& about um what it would take and

1473
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,640
what it would look like to help

1474
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,440
fasttrack um cellular infrastructure

1475
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,760
along that corridor of towers between

1476
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,079
280 and Black Mountain. I feel like

1477
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:31,839
that's a great opportunity and an

1478
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:35,920
arsenal of uh of positions that would

1479
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,839
certainly improve a good portion of

1480
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,960
Hillsboro's access to wireless and be

1481
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,720
least intrusive um to the community.

1482
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,480
Second of all, I I think uh in that

1483
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:53,200
balance between our aesthetics and our our wireless needs, I believe we're

1484
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,720
in a window, a unique window of time,

1485
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,799
and I'd like to see a result of this

1486
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:59,680
project to be um making updates to our

1487
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,559
wireless ordinance. Um what we've put

1488
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,960
together as a community, uh your and

1489
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,760
your predecessors, um has some good

1490
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,599
pieces in it and it has some bad pieces

1491
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:12,960
in it. Um, and I think we should I

1492
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,799
really encourage you if you've not to

1493
01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:16,319
take a look at the Los Altos Hills

1494
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:19,839
wireless ordinance. I think it's a 587.

1495
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:21,839
And they're able to um put together a

1496
01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:23,359
really good balance. Um they have some

1497
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:25,920
very pragmatic rules um primarily is

1498
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,160
distance from homes. Um they went with

1499
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,599
200 feet from homes um which which mere

1500
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,559
our town. There is no commercial um uh

1501
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:37,760
corridor in Los Altos Hills. Um and I

1502
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,440
think also looking at the distance we do

1503
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,680
put these towers from schools and

1504
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,839
communities. Um so there's a lot of

1505
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:45,920
people that have already solved this

1506
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,559
balance between cellular infrastructure

1507
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:51,920
and the need for um their residents to

1508
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,160
feel safe and to have uh the access

1509
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,920
technology but also to have the a

1510
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,480
certain distance from homes. um have it

1511
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:06,640
not intrude on uh on the community's uh bucolic charm and to uh ensure that

1512
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,559
the community is well served for years

1513
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:10,880
to come. Um so by partnering with our

1514
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,119
neighboring uh you know corridor like a

1515
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:15,760
or PG updating our ordinance I think

1516
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,760
these should be key elements of this

1517
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,400
consultants review um and I think the

1518
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,319
town can benefit from both of those.

1519
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:29,599
Um, thank you John.

1520
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:33,440
>> Any additional comment?

1521
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,359
>> Uh, yes. Josh Burns.

1522
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:38,720
>> Hello Josh.

1523
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,039
>> Hi Josh from Marorrow Road. So just want

1524
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,160
to touch on a couple things. Uh, one is

1525
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,640
um, as you look at the scope of work, I

1526
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,920
mentioned this before, but hopefully

1527
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,839
some more focus on like providing

1528
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:51,599
resources information for homeowners.

1529
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,400
So, uh, if we look at a site for

1530
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,839
emergency preparedness, we have

1531
01:04:55,839 --> 01:04:58,240
committees, we have, uh, events, we have

1532
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,480
tons of resources for that. Same with

1533
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,480
home security. I can call the police and

1534
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,240
have somebody come and look at my house,

1535
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,559
provide me feedback. You guys had an

1536
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:09,039
event for providers to come and talk to

1537
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,720
citizens. Um, and uh, also, you know,

1538
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,480
for fire safety, we have a ton of

1539
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,640
resources. We have a program. We have

1540
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,079
requirements that we have to maintain.

1541
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:19,839
It's all these things are very robust.

1542
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:20,720
But if you think of like

1543
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,960
telecommunications, we actually have

1544
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,520
nothing essentially on the website. So I

1545
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,760
think just thinking about ways that are

1546
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,000
accessible to help people solve

1547
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,280
problems, provide them information

1548
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,920
that's clear and very specific to where

1549
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680
we live. Thinking about like what

1550
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,440
internet providers are available or

1551
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,319
fiber uh for wireless map of where the

1552
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,160
wireless facilities that we have in town

1553
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,920
for which provider. Maybe I might think

1554
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,960
of switching to one that is located by

1555
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,760
uh where I live. Uh I think you know

1556
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,359
information on best practices for

1557
01:05:51,359 --> 01:05:54,160
improving internet coverage in the home

1558
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,520
uh whether it's hardware whether it's

1559
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,280
battery backup um uh you know having

1560
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,000
listened to hours of and read hours of

1561
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,079
feedback from citizens I would have the

1562
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:06,640
point of view that like I think like 30

1563
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,400
40% of a lot of these problems that

1564
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,680
people have could actually be solved

1565
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,880
with with information and resources. Uh,

1566
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,960
and even going further, having a list of

1567
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,119
providers that can come to your home and

1568
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:18,880
help you with these problems for those

1569
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,520
who are not techsavvy. And I think you

1570
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,039
touched on a little bit with some of the

1571
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:25,359
battery backup stuff, but uh, if there's

1572
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:27,119
a way to offer discounts for specific

1573
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,119
hardware that would be valuable for

1574
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:30,960
people to address if it's battery backup

1575
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,680
infrastructure, um, this kind of stuff.

1576
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,240
So, I'd love to see more focus on

1577
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,760
information resources that are

1578
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,839
accessible and immediate. I think that

1579
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:41,599
could solve a substantial amount of

1580
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:44,960
problems that people are having. Um if

1581
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,119
one minute. So the other thing would be

1582
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,520
uh you know just touched on in the in

1583
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,319
the agenda item information talk about

1584
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:54,160
locating towers away from homes as a

1585
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,240
main priority but uh as someone

1586
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,400
mentioned previously there's not much

1587
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,240
specific scope of work around like

1588
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,480
updating ordinances. How do we actually

1589
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,240
implement something like that um and

1590
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,640
make changes around it? Um it's a little

1591
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,400
bit disappointing to see more, you know,

1592
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,160
language calling out potentially

1593
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,000
weakening policies to encourage more

1594
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,000
deployments. Uh so it's kind of

1595
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,319
contradictory there. So uh John

1596
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:18,559
mentioned the Los Altos Hills. We

1597
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,160
there's other cities that has invested a

1598
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,599
lot of resources in this that we could

1599
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:24,799
kind of draft off of uh efficiently to

1600
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:28,240
look at protecting uh you know the the

1601
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,319
town character. Thank you.

1602
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:33,440
>> Thank you, Josh. Any additional um

1603
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,599
questions from the public? Thank you,

1604
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,520
Maricole. I don't have any additional

1605
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,520
speaker cards and I don't have any

1606
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,599
additional raised hands on Zoom at this

1607
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:42,799
time.

1608
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,880
>> Thank you. So, we'll bring it back to

1609
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,440
the um council and we'll discuss it and

1610
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,400
try to give specific directives to um

1611
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,200
the staff based on what we just heard.

1612
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,799
Um

1613
01:07:54,799 --> 01:07:58,319
let me have my colleagues start and I

1614
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:01,520
will follow through. Any comments from

1615
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,240
anyone to lead in terms of opinions?

1616
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,280
We'll start with Council Member Adams.

1617
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,079
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Um, as most of

1618
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:11,920
you know, this is something I've spent a

1619
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,920
lot of time on and I'm really pleased to

1620
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:21,920
see uh the progress that we've made. We did have this on the back burner for

1621
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,719
a long time and it's clear we've made a

1622
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:27,359
priority to pull it forward but we've

1623
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,560
also been clear that this is a very

1624
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,759
complicated issue and there are many

1625
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:37,120
issues and there are many objectives and

1626
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,920
I think u I I want to mention that we

1627
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,600
really did talk at least in our first uh

1628
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,080
meeting about how there are many things

1629
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,359
that individuals can do on their own

1630
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,319
without waiting for the town. There are

1631
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:57,359
many things that the town can explore.

1632
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,040
We have to do that in the context of

1633
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,400
other priorities and also cost. But a

1634
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,960
third element is

1635
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,719
pressures that are brought to bear

1636
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:11,199
against some of the things that we may

1637
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,520
want to do particularly from the federal

1638
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:18,239
government. So because this is complex,

1639
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:21,040
I think it is a disservice to that

1640
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,159
complexity and also to the interlocking

1641
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:26,799
nature of those buckets that were

1642
01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:30,400
presented to us for us to opine about

1643
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,640
the priorities at this point. I think

1644
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,400
those are the appropriate buckets and I

1645
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,440
think many of them are interconnected.

1646
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:41,600
some of which are lowhanging fruit, but

1647
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,040
some of which are outside of our hands.

1648
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,440
I do like the idea of our being in

1649
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,520
charge of giving more information so

1650
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,839
people can have agency on their own. So

1651
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:56,960
bottom line for me is

1652
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,239
first of all definitely go to the FCC

1653
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:04,080
website. It is phenomenal. It is not

1654
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,800
accurate, but it is amazing the

1655
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,480
information the FCC has about your home,

1656
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:13,520
about your carrier, about your

1657
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,040
situation.

1658
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Second, we did have uh a professional

1659
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,120
assessment that said we would need 200

1660
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,199
cell towers in order to get perfection

1661
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:29,120
in coverage on Wi-Fi in our town because

1662
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,440
of the hills, the valleys, the character

1663
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:35,679
of the town and uh the trees. So

1664
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:38,000
perfection is not what we're aiming for.

1665
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,920
is progress in

1666
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,640
each of these areas. So my

1667
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,560
recommendation is that we talk about

1668
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,320
what kinds of things we'd like to see

1669
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,360
happen, but that we not dictate

1670
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,199
solutions by making it a priority to

1671
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:59,600
have X or Y at this point. That we have

1672
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,239
this RFP go out

1673
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:05,280
and that we are very clear. We want

1674
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,719
these six things to be looked at and we

1675
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:11,679
want to see how we can have improvement

1676
01:11:11,679 --> 01:11:16,560
in the most logical and uh really

1677
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,880
costdriven

1678
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,560
uh procedures that someone looking

1679
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,320
objectively

1680
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,000
outside of our experience really looking

1681
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,000
at this and evaluating it I think it's

1682
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,600
going to be invaluable. So, I encourage

1683
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,320
us to make sure that we allow the data

1684
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,080
to drive the priority because that may

1685
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,199
really be surprising to us. I think most

1686
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,679
of us were surprised by the idea that

1687
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:52,159
there were potentially 70% of our town

1688
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:55,920
has underground. At this point, when I

1689
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,640
drive around town, I see a lot of

1690
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,199
overhead lines. So that would not have

1691
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,440
been my assessment.

1692
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:07,600
I trust this process and I also would

1693
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,040
like to at some point hear from Gail uh

1694
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
about the coalition that we have joined

1695
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:17,840
and uh how that is proceeding.

1696
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,760
>> Thank you, Council Member Adams. Um

1697
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,760
Council Member Trong, any specific

1698
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,920
comments?

1699
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,199
Um I I applaud that um this council and

1700
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:30,880
the staffs are taking the actions of uh

1701
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,840
moving forward on the cell services. I

1702
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,199
think that it is now uh more in the

1703
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:39,120
public's view that this is a public

1704
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,520
safety issue that we need to have

1705
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:45,199
consistent and stabilized um Wi-Fi

1706
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,560
connections so that we can be able to

1707
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,440
make the calls or do the texting from

1708
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:53,600
our homes or from any location in

1709
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,440
Hillsboro. Um I do support the idea of

1710
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,679
um finding best practices. We're in the

1711
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:02,000
Silicon Valley. there are different

1712
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,080
cities trying different things. So um in

1713
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,320
light of the state mandate and in the um

1714
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,400
the uh serving our cities, I think that

1715
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,920
the six buckets are

1716
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,440
important to identify and I do think

1717
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:23,920
that there are best practices that we

1718
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,800
can look at in other cities, other

1719
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:32,080
counties to see how we can bring them in

1720
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,360
that it would apply to us um because the

1721
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,400
topography, the location, we do have

1722
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,265
challenges and so I I would presume that

1723
01:13:43,265 --> 01:13:45,920
[clears throat] different kinds of um

1724
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,560
internet services will be advantageous

1725
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,520
to certain location and not the others.

1726
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,440
So to figure out what are the challenges

1727
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,280
um it is worth a while to evaluate what

1728
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,520
the best practice is out there.

1729
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,120
Thank you, Council Member Chong and

1730
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,199
Council Member Crowley.

1731
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,280
>> Thank you. Uh, so thank you for this

1732
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,600
preliminary leg work. I mean, it's not

1733
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,880
preliminary because we've been working

1734
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,880
on it for years, but um, it's long that

1735
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,239
we all know this has long been a

1736
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:15,520
priority of the council and the

1737
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,000
residents and it's an issue, as has been

1738
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,199
said, not only of um, convenience, but

1739
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:24,960
of public safety. So, um, I agree with

1740
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,480
one of the speakers that said it's time

1741
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:29,360
to stop studying and start solving. So,

1742
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,239
this is a great first step. I just have

1743
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:36,239
a a couple of things um are admirable

1744
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:39,040
but may be roadblocks. I do agree that

1745
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,679
undergrounding these wires would improve

1746
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:44,159
aesthetically the town and may also

1747
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:47,199
improve our reliability. But I would

1748
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,760
hope that we would separate that from

1749
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,159
communication solutions because it may

1750
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:54,800
be very expensive and very slow and if

1751
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,199
we waited to do that. And I was

1752
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:59,840
pleasantly surprised like you said Lori,

1753
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,719
Council Member Adams, that um that such

1754
01:15:02,719 --> 01:15:04,560
a large percentage of town is already

1755
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,719
underground. That's very um that's very

1756
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,040
heartening. Um and then the other thing

1757
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,440
is the 150 ft um or even 200 feet as

1758
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,440
they said Los South. I remember when we

1759
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:17,920
studied this before it it just it was

1760
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,840
that was very challenging and we ended

1761
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,880
up with I think 50 or 60 feet but of the

1762
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,520
13 towers that we approved only two I

1763
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,760
think remained controversial after we

1764
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,360
approved them. So there was some um but

1765
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,840
so but I am definitely in favor of the

1766
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,080
RFP to move forward with a

1767
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,760
telecommunications

1768
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,800
expert consultant to evaluate the

1769
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,960
possibilities and the challenges in

1770
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,520
Hillsboro just like we did the bike and pedestrian master plan. I think this

1771
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,360
is very positive and I be very

1772
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,199
interested to see what solutions they

1773
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:53,679
would would would come up with. Thank

1774
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:53,840
you.

1775
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,679
>> Thank you Council Member Krillic. Um,

1776
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:59,280
Vice Mayor Ragdale.

1777
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,800
>> Yes, thank you. Um, I'm not sure how

1778
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,520
helpful my thoughts will be because I

1779
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,560
liked everything that I heard from the

1780
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,239
public and all of all of those

1781
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:13,679
suggestions were just uh super helpful.

1782
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:16,880
Um, in particular, I'd love to learn

1783
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,520
more from the consultant about satellite

1784
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,719
and um complications with satellite in

1785
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:26,000
terms of latency. I know that now. Um,

1786
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,800
in terms of if you can see the sky in

1787
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,640
terms of are there is there more than

1788
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,679
one company? Um, we don't want to

1789
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:36,080
necessarily be at the whims of one

1790
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,000
particular company. Um, so I'd like more

1791
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,000
information on satellite like more

1792
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,640
information on an education on fiber.

1793
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,040
Um, and I love that idea of um, just

1794
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,280
like we had for the alarm companies, if

1795
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,080
we had a presentation where we just

1796
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,600
invited

1797
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,280
different people to come, the different

1798
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,000
cell providers, um, backup battery uh,

1799
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,239
companies, um, people who have

1800
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:07,040
generators, hopefully maybe quieter

1801
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,719
generators than I've heard. Um uh and

1802
01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:13,040
then the people who can come and um put

1803
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,159
repeaters around your home to uh expand

1804
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:17,600
your internet. If we could have some

1805
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,000
kind of um forum like that, that would

1806
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,480
be super helpful. And then have it on

1807
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:25,280
our website, um as was suggested. And

1808
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,719
then um I liked the idea of talking to

1809
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:30,000
other towns. I know it's something you

1810
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,960
guys do on a regular basis anyway. Um

1811
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,840
but um that would be helpful. you know,

1812
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,480
think about um parts of LA, think about

1813
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:40,719
Marin. We're definitely not the only

1814
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:43,600
community with um with the topography

1815
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,040
and um trees. So, um that would be

1816
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,960
helpful, too.

1817
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,679
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Ragsdale. um um

1818
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:53,600
with some of the comments that's been

1819
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,080
made by my colleagues. Um let me just um

1820
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,280
start by asking um our consultant who is

1821
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,960
um on Zoom with us for some

1822
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:06,159
clarifications regarding current FCC um

1823
01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:08,800
either mandates or restrictions or rules

1824
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,320
surrounding

1825
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,800
um wireless

1826
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,440
uh deployment. Um Gail, you're with us.

1827
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,679
Gail Carish from BBK, thanks for being

1828
01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:20,000
here. are you able to help us with some

1829
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,000
of that conversation?

1830
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,440
>> Uh yes, thank you and and happy new year

1831
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:27,920
everyone. Glad to glad to see you. Glad

1832
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,280
to uh be here. Uh yeah. [clears throat]

1833
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:37,600
So there are if um um the FCC so to to

1834
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,679
keep it brief uh because I think

1835
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,480
everyone is generally aware um

1836
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:45,360
communications is a complicated subject

1837
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,360
for local governments because there are

1838
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,320
levels both federal and state regulation

1839
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,600
that that can uh put some limits on on

1840
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,560
your authority. specifically on

1841
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,880
wireless. The FC, the Federal

1842
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,920
Communications Commission has uh over

1843
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:07,679
the past uh 15 or 20 years um taken

1844
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:12,640
various steps to uh limit local

1845
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,600
authority or put put some um

1846
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,159
restrictions on the speed of reviewing

1847
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,719
applications, on not being able to

1848
01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:22,880
simply have a moratorum, those sorts of

1849
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,360
things. And so periodically the FCC um

1850
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,000
starts new rulemakings or inquiries and

1851
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,920
they've got one um currently on wireless

1852
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,920
where they're looking at doing some

1853
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,960
additional rule changes

1854
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,679
u mostly related to macro uh towers and

1855
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:47,360
also um uh what they call eligible

1856
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,159
facilities requests which are changes uh

1857
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,600
to existing wireless facilities you add

1858
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,000
or expand them. Um there is also a wire

1859
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,040
line proceeding which is looking at what

1860
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,760
kind of rules the FCC might impose on

1861
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,920
local governments such as shot clocks,

1862
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,159
timelines for action, things like that

1863
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:12,560
related to the deployment of uh fiber uh

1864
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,080
for broadband services. So u that's a

1865
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,800
very short overview. If you want more

1866
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,520
details, I'm happy to answer anything.

1867
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,520
>> Yeah. and and I'm happy you're here with

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us because you were with us I think four

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01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:26,480
or five years ago when we were

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01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,880
discussing this. So you know the history

1871
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,640
in terms of the conversations we've had

1872
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,840
in the past. Um specifically

1873
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,360
has the FCC imposed more restrictions

1874
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,960
with regards to dis you know deployment

1875
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,920
of wireless towers

1876
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,400
um on the micro towers which is what we

1877
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,239
considered we I don't believe we were

1878
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,719
discussing micro towers at that time um

1879
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:53,360
from a home for example has that

1880
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,600
restriction changed has it gotten more

1881
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,840
strict what what is the latest from the

1882
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,440
FCC?

1883
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,880
Yeah. So the the the FCC has not issued

1884
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:08,960
any new uh rules uh specifically on

1885
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,960
wireless deployments um since it's

1886
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,560
probably about 5 years. Um there was uh

1887
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,679
there were some rule changes. Uh the big

1888
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:22,719
one that we uh the the town did an

1889
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:26,239
update after was in 2018 for the small

1890
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:31,120
wireless uh facilities order. Um and uh

1891
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,040
they had a couple other orders. At that

1892
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,920
time they had u some clarifications they

1893
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,679
were doing to eligible facilities

1894
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:41,199
requests in 2020. That was we were part

1895
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:44,000
of a challenge in court that uh part of

1896
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,360
that order got reversed. And so the FCC,

1897
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,719
that's one of the things they're doing

1898
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:52,159
now in this new proceeding is to bring

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01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:54,480
updates to the eligible facilities

1900
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:55,840
request rules which are for

1901
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,719
modifications to existing towers. Uh but

1902
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:02,239
they've uh uh launched a broader

1903
01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:03,920
proceeding than that where they are

1904
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,239
looking at doing some other updates. So

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01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:12,159
we do expect uh that the FCC will um uh

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01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,639
implement some new rules. the the status

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01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:17,199
of that proceeding is we filed and and

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01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:18,960
we thank you again for your support for

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,520
that coalition. We filed comments in the

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01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:27,360
wireless uh proceeding on uh uh December

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,600
31st and are working on our reply uh

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01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,840
comments. U but the we had asked the FCC

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01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,360
for an extension of time for filing on

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,800
the reply round uh which was very short.

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01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,199
Normally it's 30 days, they had 15 days

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01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,280
and they declined that request. So that

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01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,360
gives us an indication they are very

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,760
interested in moving very quickly in

1919
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,040
that proceeding. So we anticipate that

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01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,239
within uh the next couple of months or

1921
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:00,960
so we will have a new FCC order with

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01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,120
further restrictions on wireless.

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01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,120
>> Okay. So so not much has changed since

1924
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,800
we last discussed this. At least it

1925
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,159
looks like there's change on the horizon

1926
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:10,159
but it hasn't happened yet. Okay. So,

1927
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:11,520
for the purpose of moving forward with

1928
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,000
this current conversation, um I have a

1929
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,000
few comments. I I was actually quite

1930
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,920
surprised by the maps that we're looking

1931
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:22,960
at. We the map that looks at um 70%

1932
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,960
undergrounded um util uh utilities.

1933
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,800
That's undergrounded. 70% of the town

1934
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,199
has undergrounded utilities. And I

1935
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:34,159
always thought if I mean maybe these are

1936
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:37,360
just uh legacy utilities and they were

1937
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,360
not undergrounded with um with fiber at

1938
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,600
the time perhaps. I was quite surprised

1939
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,080
to see that the cellular connectivity

1940
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,120
did not correlate with a higher

1941
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,280
reception and and I was just wondering

1942
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,199
if we have any information on why that's

1943
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,280
the case. Are these just older fibers

1944
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,520
and they're just not

1945
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,679
more updated fibers and we therefore

1946
01:23:59,679 --> 01:24:05,590
don't have much data traveling with it.

1947
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,360
» I have some thoughts on that. I don't

1948
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,960
know if you were directing that to me or

1949
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:09,199
not.

1950
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:10,320
>> I would like your thoughts as well.

1951
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,840
Yeah, maybe we can start with you Gail.

1952
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Go ahead. So, um, one of the things I I

1953
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,960
think with that broadband map maybe that

1954
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,800
it's not always show it's not always

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,639
showing where there is fiber

1956
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:24,719
necessarily, but where there's a level

1957
01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:29,679
of service. And so um

1958
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:35,920
uh a Comcast has uh has uh you know

1959
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,400
traditionally Comcast built a coaxial

1960
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,920
cable system but then uh all of the

1961
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,880
cable operators have been putting more

1962
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,600
fiber into their networks. They still

1963
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,719
have a so they're called hybrid coaxial

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01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:55,600
f coaxial cable and fiber networks. Um,

1965
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,760
so when it shows a level of of speed for

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,080
broadband service or for internet access

1967
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,000
service, that doesn't necessarily mean

1968
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,199
there's fiber to that to provide that

1969
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:09,360
service. It could be a combination. And

1970
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,239
so that may be what you're you're uh

1971
01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:15,040
seeing uh in terms of the level of

1972
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,440
broadband available does not necessarily

1973
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:21,360
co correlate to fiber being in in the

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01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,920
ground or on poles in that area.

1975
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,960
Okay. So the importance of that is that

1976
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,719
just because we talk about

1977
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:32,719
undergrounding, we have to be very

1978
01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:35,440
specific to address the communications

1979
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:38,560
component of that. The broadband

1980
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,880
um connectivity is what we're interested

1981
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,280
in. In other words, I mean that I'm just

1982
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,800
learning that information right now as

1983
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,679
you speak. Is that is that correct?

1984
01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:49,440
>> Well, yeah. What I would say is usually

1985
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:50,880
when you're looking at utilities

1986
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,719
undergrounding, you're looking at

1987
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:55,199
undergrounding all the utilities. So it

1988
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:58,000
would be the uh you know the electric

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01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,880
utilities and anything else that is on

1990
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,560
the poles which may be you know it could

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,480
be coaxial cable um it could be fiber it

1992
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:10,719
could be uh you may have some copper

1993
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:13,840
lines still uh copper facilities in in

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01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,840
your town. So it would be whatever is on

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,280
the poles, you would be looking at

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01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,320
undergrounding all of it u together.

1997
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,520
Otherwise I mean that is the point if

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,600
you want to actually remove the utility

1999
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,360
poles is you have to underground all of

2000
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,600
the utilities that are on the pole.

2001
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,520
>> Gotcha. So um thanks for that. And I

2002
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,520
think my opinion in terms of what we've

2003
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,760
discussed on the day today is I agree

2004
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,120
with my colleagues. Um I I agree with uh

2005
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,120
council member Krik. I think we really

2006
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,679
need to focus on solving coming forward

2007
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:47,840
with solutions. It does not mean the

2008
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,280
town has the solutions but my question

2009
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,159
would be to this consultant as part of

2010
01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:57,760
your research um and feedback to us

2011
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,880
bring us information as well that the

2012
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,679
town could perhaps what can the town do

2013
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:06,480
to enhance services whether it's

2014
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:09,040
connectivity to residents. Um maybe we

2015
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,880
do nothing, maybe we don't have the the

2016
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,040
capacity financially and otherwise to do

2017
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,159
anything, but at least what are the

2018
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:20,080
specific things the town can do um with

2019
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,320
regards to fiber that would address um

2020
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,120
broadband internet service and it's

2021
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,120
going to be multiaceted. I mean what I'm

2022
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,560
hearing is that we may

2023
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,120
need to find a way to enhance all three

2024
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,080
components satellite fiber and cell

2025
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,120
towers. we may need that degree of

2026
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,320
redundancy and um I'm I'll be interested

2027
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,719
to know what my um colleagues think

2028
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:46,719
about that because I think at the end of

2029
01:27:46,719 --> 01:27:48,080
the day what we're going to be able to

2030
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,840
do is to bring solutions to the town and

2031
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,719
to the residents and say well maybe we

2032
01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:55,840
can use some town owned sites for to

2033
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,480
deploy some cell towers. Maybe we can

2034
01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:00,480
run a little bit of fiber somewhere that

2035
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,800
would help residents get fiber with

2036
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,600
better broadband. Um, and then maybe

2037
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,679
certain areas can only use or can

2038
01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:09,760
benefit more from satellite. My question

2039
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,960
would be from this consultant, what can

2040
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,719
the town do to enhance this

2041
01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:16,800
communication issue across the board?

2042
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,480
And I would be interested to hear your

2043
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,800
feedback on that. But I do feel strongly

2044
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,560
that moving forward with specific

2045
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,400
questions and coming back with specific

2046
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,719
answers. And as council member Adams uh

2047
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:30,560
noted, we we need the answers and we are

2048
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,880
going to be talking about um strategic

2049
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,560
planning. So this conversation may come

2050
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,760
back, but we do need specific answers to

2051
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,400
help residents solve this problem and we

2052
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,560
need to do so in short order. I don't

2053
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,199
think I think the undergrounding issue

2054
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:47,520
in in the 30% that's not undergrounded

2055
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,080
may take a very long time. I I don't

2056
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,520
know, but that also needs to be

2057
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,360
explored. But we certainly need to

2058
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,040
address the communication issue more

2059
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,560
urgently. And I think that needs to be

2060
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,840
addressed like soon. We can't put put

2061
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:05,600
this off any longer. we're all fully aware of um natural disasters and

2062
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,360
emergencies and the importance of public

2063
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,760
safety along those lines. So if any of

2064
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,280
my colleagues want to comment what I

2065
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,520
just said, I'm happy to continue the

2066
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,520
conversation.

2067
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,800
>> Thank you. I I I think I agree with um

2068
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,920
everyone on the dis um that we really

2069
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,159
are looking for solutions and it is

2070
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:27,280
better that we have solutions while

2071
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,440
there's no applications. you know when

2072
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,320
we have applications then we cater to

2073
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,719
their selections and that makes it a

2074
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:36,960
very difficult conversation. I think

2075
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,040
that we're

2076
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,320
seriously looking at the three options

2077
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:46,320
that has the pro and cons and maybe also

2078
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,320
depends on where the homes located. Um

2079
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,639
at the end of the day it is public

2080
01:29:52,639 --> 01:29:56,639
safety. It is consistent delivery of the

2081
01:29:56,639 --> 01:30:00,480
wireless service. And so um it would be

2082
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:03,280
really great to get the consultant to

2083
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,080
find out best practices out there, what

2084
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,360
is applicable for our town and to the

2085
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,400
extent to the mayor's comments on you

2086
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,960
know so perhaps the city then we'll be

2087
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,080
able to utilize our resources to help

2088
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,719
support those uh improvements going

2089
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:23,600
forward.

2090
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,000
>> Um Council Member Crowley. Yeah, I just

2091
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,600
want to say thanks to the members of the

2092
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,679
public who are here and on Zoom, Josh

2093
01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:31,440
Burns and Patrick Shannon and Paul

2094
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:33,040
Freriedman. You've all been part of the

2095
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,360
conversation that came to a head a few

2096
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:36,800
years ago and I think we're looking

2097
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,040
forward to moving forward and and it's

2098
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,639
good to have the input because hopefully

2099
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:42,960
we can all work together to come up with

2100
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,280
something that works for everybody.

2101
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,520
>> Um, Council Member Adams, you have

2102
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:48,639
additional comments.

2103
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:51,120
>> Uh, I I agree with everything we've

2104
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,280
said. We're solutionoriented

2105
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,480
and we're ready, but we're also ready to

2106
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:59,199
help our citizens do the solutions that

2107
01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:02,320
they can do in the interim. So, it's

2108
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,239
complicated, but that's why we're going

2109
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:07,040
to get somebody involved in this who

2110
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,040
knows how the pieces of this puzzle fit

2111
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,600
together. Um, with regard to

2112
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,280
undergrounding,

2113
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:18,320
it has a a tie to in some ways uh making

2114
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,880
sure that we have consistent electrical

2115
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,400
delivery of our utilities. In some ways

2116
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,360
that affects all of this, but in some

2117
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,600
ways it is a separate issue. But I think

2118
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,840
it's really good to put it together with

2119
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,400
this at this time because that will give

2120
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,920
us we actually have as uh our assistant

2121
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,040
city manager said we already have uh an

2122
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,480
engineering firm working on how we would

2123
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:48,880
structure in in including more uh

2124
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,560
districts

2125
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,040
as undergrounded. It may not be

2126
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,120
something we want to eventually do, but

2127
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,199
as it might relate to this, it's really

2128
01:31:57,199 --> 01:31:58,960
good to have this consultant kind of

2129
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,719
have that in the back of the mind as

2130
01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:03,280
well. And I really think we just ought

2131
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,560
to go for this right away and still have

2132
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,080
our citizens who are very much engaged

2133
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,600
continue to be engaged in the

2134
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,110
conversation.

2135
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,800
» Um any um additional comments? Um so I

2136
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,199
think Mandy uh Brown the general

2137
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:24,960
directives is move forward with the RFP.

2138
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,800
Um if you could go to the last slide

2139
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:31,120
when you outlined timeline cost

2140
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,679
um and just resources that would need to

2141
01:32:33,679 --> 01:32:34,719
be deployed.

2142
01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:35,920
>> Yes.

2143
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,000
>> And if I could could I just summarize

2144
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,760
the direction that I heard to make sure

2145
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,600
that I'm on the right track. So the

2146
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,520
undergrounding utilities since that

2147
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,520
analysis is underway, we're sort of

2148
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,239
carving that out, but it will inform the

2149
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:51,199
study um rather than be part of this

2150
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:54,000
study. It would just tie in. Um and then

2151
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,080
the buckets are correct, the remaining

2152
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,840
buckets. But what I heard from the

2153
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,159
public and from the council is making

2154
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:01,440
sure that we're including best

2155
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:03,440
practices, uh looking at other

2156
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,760
jurisdictions and their regulations and

2157
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,040
using that to help inform. um as well as

2158
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,280
a resource library, public information,

2159
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,520
how the town can connect residents with

2160
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,639
solutions and a specific action plan for

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01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,960
what the town can do as part of that

2162
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,400
deliverable. Um

2163
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,480
>> and and I think there was also one other

2164
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,800
point you discussed that we have not

2165
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,480
delved into but I think we would like to

2166
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:29,120
hear more on that which is really backup

2167
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,520
support in the event of um tow town

2168
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,280
townwide um uh power outages um

2169
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,400
providing resources with regards to

2170
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,360
generators, batteries and even the issue

2171
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,480
of micro grid is taking off. There's uh

2172
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:46,639
there are lots of entities exploring

2173
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:49,760
that and to perhaps look to see um how

2174
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,280
we can utilize town owned sites to

2175
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:54,880
create a micro grid in certain areas

2176
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,080
that are very prone to power outages. Um

2177
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,360
those are all things we would like them

2178
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,120
to explore. Yeah. Go ahead, Vice Mayor

2179
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,080
Rexdale.

2180
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,239
>> Um as far as what I heard, I thought

2181
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:05,600
that was a great summary. The only thing

2182
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,080
I'd add is in talking with other towns,

2183
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,560
not just on their ordinances, but also

2184
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,600
solutions that they've come up with.

2185
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,760
>> Got it. Thank you.

2186
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,840
>> Um any additional Yeah, we have someone

2187
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,199
in the public who would like to make a

2188
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:21,840
comment and I'll definitely um make an

2189
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,360
exception. Probably comment is closed,

2190
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:30,470
but definitely. Yeah. Yes, please do

2191
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:35,360
» for our source of interconnectivity.

2192
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,960
I want I wanted to say I cover the news

2193
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,560
and I was in Aldina. I was in Paradise

2194
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,239
and I was in Napa. The first thing to go

2195
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:48,400
are the cell towers because they get

2196
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,080
burned and it was useless and we

2197
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,760
couldn't get out. we couldn't get a call

2198
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,719
in or get a call out. So if we are

2199
01:34:56,719 --> 01:34:59,679
thinking about emergency services or

2200
01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:02,719
safety issues and if we are only relying

2201
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:05,840
on cell towers and forget it

2202
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,280
because when there's a fire and

2203
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,560
earthquake it they don't work right. I

2204
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,520
think the directive is to explore

2205
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,480
uh all of the above um with regard to

2206
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:19,520
redund redundancy to explore satellite

2207
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,199
maybe not for the whole town but in

2208
01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:23,199
specific areas maybe for the whole town

2209
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:24,960
that may be perfect we don't know yet we

2210
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,120
need to see what resources will be

2211
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:31,040
required explore fiber and explore cell

2212
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,159
towers everything we're hearing so far

2213
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:36,000
um even in satellite I actually wanted

2214
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,480
to ask one of the speakers Um,

2215
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:43,840
when you have townwide or regionwide

2216
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,840
fires,

2217
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,600
does satellite still is it is it good?

2218
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,800
Does it still work?

2219
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,639
>> Yes, we use satellite phones.

2220
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:53,040
>> Okay.

2221
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:53,600
>> Yeah.

2222
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,159
So, I think the the recommendation

2223
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,719
is to have a consultant come back to us

2224
01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:02,719
with all of the above and then we can

2225
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:04,320
depending on what resources are

2226
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,639
required, we can certainly prioritize. I

2227
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:09,520
totally agree with you. You want to have

2228
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,159
regular communication when everything is

2229
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:13,920
perfect, but in the event of an

2230
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,320
emergency, you do want redundancy. You

2231
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,639
want other options so people can

2232
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:20,560
>> I think during the last meeting, we also

2233
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,719
talked about um

2234
01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:28,400
levying a fee to under to help under the

2235
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,239
expense of undergrounding all the

2236
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:31,120
cables.

2237
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:36,159
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's also being discussed as well.

2238
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:37,840
Okay. Thanks for your comments. I

2239
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,920
appreciate it. Um, any additional

2240
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,679
comments from anyone in the public or

2241
01:36:41,679 --> 01:36:44,880
from the DEAS?

2242
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,800
All right.

2243
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,880
>> Do we need a motion? Uh,

2244
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,600
>> we've given directives. Um, is this uh

2245
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,480
my understanding is this is mostly a

2246
01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:55,280
discussion.

2247
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,880
>> Just Mayor Cole and council. Uh, no need

2248
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,320
for a motion unless the direction is

2249
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,239
unclear to any of you, but I think if

2250
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:01,920
Mandy Brown has that direction, then I

2251
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,760
think you're fine to proceed.

2252
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,719
>> Yeah. Correct. Is that is that okay with

2253
01:37:06,719 --> 01:37:10,800
everyone? Good. We will close both both

2254
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,480
public comments and move on to the next

2255
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,679
agenda item which is city council items.

2256
01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:17,920
Um we'll start with uh council member

2257
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:23,030
Adams.

2258
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:27,440
» Thank you Mayor Cole. Uh December was an

2259
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:31,199
interesting month in terms of my council

2260
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:34,639
activities. Next slide. Uh the Rethink

2261
01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:36,960
Waste Board did not meet in December.

2262
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,360
The Hillsboro Beautification Foundation,

2263
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,840
the board did not meet, but light up the

2264
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,400
town was a huge success. I'll talk about

2265
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,639
that in a minute. Uh the subcommittee

2266
01:37:46,639 --> 01:37:49,600
for Tobin Clark simply updated the land

2267
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,159
assessment tools and the survey so that

2268
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:54,960
we can get started. The subcommittee on

2269
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,880
ordinances did not meet in December

2270
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,400
and I did meet with public works uh as

2271
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:06,400
we normally do. Next slide.

2272
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,800
Um I just wanted to mention uh light up

2273
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,280
the town. I had a conflict but I

2274
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,400
understand it was extremely extremely

2275
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,360
well attended and wellreceived swing

2276
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,040
set. We certainly love having uh the

2277
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,080
musical uh entertainment but also just

2278
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,040
the camaraderie of the town. So I wanted

2279
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,119
to compliment uh the Hillsboro

2280
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:30,960
Beautification Foundation which takes

2281
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,320
that very seriously and runs it for us.

2282
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,719
Next

2283
01:38:36,719 --> 01:38:41,520
slide. Uh I'm have an action photo.

2284
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,080
Actually, there's two action photos of

2285
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,520
our vice mayor at the council of cities

2286
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,320
uh which took place in in December in

2287
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,800
Kulma. That event was attended uh by uh

2288
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,840
council member Schwang, myself and our

2289
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:02,000
vice mayor uh who aly represented us. It

2290
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,800
does it may look like the person in the

2291
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,800
front of the right photograph is

2292
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,199
praying, but he's not. He's actually

2293
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:11,760
listening intently as our vice mayor

2294
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,679
talks. Next slide.

2295
01:39:15,679 --> 01:39:21,920
Uh again, it was uh really Meline was

2296
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:26,320
the shining star for us. uh uh Vice

2297
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,600
Mayor Ragsdale and myself were there

2298
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,600
when the truck arrived with her artwork

2299
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,880
and her entire class and her family uh

2300
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,960
were able to see her truck uh which was

2301
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,520
pretty impressive and I want to

2302
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,000
compliment Rethink Waste. They actually

2303
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,239
gave her this uh little remembrance of

2304
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:53,119
this event. But it was quite nice for

2305
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:58,320
the whole school to see this. Next

2306
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,760
uh leadership council San Monteo all day

2307
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,440
intense

2308
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:06,800
simulation. You probably anyone who

2309
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,119
experienced that can't forget it. I

2310
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:10,960
won't go any deeper than that. But you

2311
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,280
learn a lot in this simulation. That was

2312
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,520
an all day event. Next slide.

2313
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:22,159
Uh, I really truly enjoyed uh being

2314
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:25,920
there for our police department badge

2315
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,400
pinning and swearing in. And I just

2316
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,000
wanted to emphasize how important it is

2317
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,880
uh not just for the town and for our

2318
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,320
employees but also for their families

2319
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,920
and how proud they are of participating

2320
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,199
in such a very positive event.

2321
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:48,320
Congratulations to everyone there

2322
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,440
uh and all of us were there. Everyone

2323
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:57,030
from uh the council. Next slide.

2324
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,159
And I want to compliment and underscore

2325
01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:02,000
the great work done by the town of

2326
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,040
Hillsboro's public works. Uh it's their

2327
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,199
regular maintenance. It's their

2328
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:09,040
preparation for weather. It's their

2329
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,560
responsiveness that keeps us safe when

2330
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,880
atmospheric rivers decide to come and uh

2331
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,679
pay a visit. And I really want us to

2332
01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:22,880
appreciate that hard work in planning

2333
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,320
and execution. I also want to express

2334
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,280
gratitude for citizen reports. It's

2335
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,719
really important. Uh this is how we find

2336
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:37,679
out what's happening. If someone's

2337
01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:40,800
walking their dog and they see a hole in

2338
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,560
the asphalt and they contact public

2339
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,239
works,

2340
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:49,760
we find the the sinkhole and we fix it,

2341
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,560
which is what we did. So, I just want to

2342
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,440
encourage people to recognize you are

2343
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:58,320
the eyes and ears of our town, not just

2344
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,400
for public works, for building and

2345
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:04,000
planning, for permitting. This is an

2346
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,000
important component of being a good

2347
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,719
citizen and we actually appreciate it.

2348
01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:11,119
It's what keeps us safe. I think that's

2349
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,000
the end. Next, thanks.

2350
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,600
>> Thank you, Council Member Adams. I'm

2351
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:21,189
Council Member Trong.

2352
01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:23,315
I don't have the show and tell

2353
01:42:23,315 --> 01:42:24,800
[clears throat] and I think that council

2354
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,960
member Adams has covered most of the

2355
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,239
events uh for December. Um I do want to

2356
01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:34,320
say 2026 there will be Super Bowl

2357
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,480
FIFA. Um there's going to be a lot of uh

2358
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:41,679
activities that's happening in our area

2359
01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:43,760
and I highly encourage that people look

2360
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,960
into the public transit. Um it is now

2361
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,679
contactless which means that you can use

2362
01:42:49,679 --> 01:42:51,600
your credit card to purchase your

2363
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,480
tickets to be able to take board train

2364
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:58,000
or buses and I think that in any kind of

2365
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,880
gathering uh it will be advantageous for

2366
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,920
you to be able to uh find the schedule

2367
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,320
and be able to take advantage of that.

2368
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:10,320
Um and uh Sam turns by the way will be

2369
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,600
uh celebrating its uh 50th anniversary

2370
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,320
this year. So, it's a big deal. Thank

2371
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,320
you.

2372
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,320
>> Um, thank you, Council Member um, Trong,

2373
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:21,520
Council Member Crowic.

2374
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,880
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Again,

2375
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,360
congratulations to Chief Colola and to

2376
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,440
all the members of the HPD who got swung

2377
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:29,119
in. Was a great event as council member

2378
01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:32,400
Adams um, talked about. Um, alarm

2379
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,880
monitoring ended on December 31st. I

2380
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,080
haven't gotten any complaints from

2381
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,159
residents. The alarm company that we

2382
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:42,719
used to turn over said they were very, busy. So, I think that um HPD and

2383
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,159
the town did a great job getting the

2384
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:46,880
word out on that. We hope CCFD's toy

2385
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,040
drive was very, very successful. Thanks

2386
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,440
to them. Um ADRB met on December 17th,

2387
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,840
and we did say goodbye to Kathleen Egan,

2388
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,000
who's served for quite a long time, and

2389
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,840
she will be recognized at our volunteer

2390
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,920
thank you event. The date is still to be

2391
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,280
determined, but we should be able to

2392
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,119
announce that by tomorrow. I just have

2393
01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:07,119
to do a final huddle with our city clerk

2394
01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:09,760
and our mayor. Thank you.

2395
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,320
Council Member Krillic. Um,

2396
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,320
Vice Mayor Rexdale,

2397
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,280
>> thank you. Um, I I'll try to be brief

2398
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,960
because I think most are repeats. Uh,

2399
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,440
next slide.

2400
01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:24,960
>> Um, oh, ebikes. You may have gotten an

2401
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:29,280
invitation. Um if not um uh it can it

2402
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,840
can go out on the e-news but um Diane

2403
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,159
Papin is putting together a forum on

2404
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:38,159
ebikes uh later this month and Ana Dal

2405
01:44:38,159 --> 01:44:39,600
the chair of our youth commission will

2406
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,040
be part of that. um I plan on attending.

2407
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,440
Um but anyway, she wrote a fantastic

2408
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:47,600
editorial which was in the Daily Journal

2409
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,400
and um is really working on this issue

2410
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,199
and adding in the teen perspective which

2411
01:44:53,199 --> 01:44:56,239
is so crucial and u very much

2412
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:59,520
appreciated. Um badge pinning the

2413
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,480
calendar. Um,

2414
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:05,280
uh, oh, Smearan House. Um, Council

2415
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,119
Member Schwang and her husband Mike and

2416
01:45:07,119 --> 01:45:09,840
I were there to to help with their, um,

2417
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,000
gift distribution event, which is always

2418
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,080
a joy. Uh, next slide.

2419
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:20,719
And next slide. Love the truck.

2420
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:22,800
And

2421
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,960
next slide. I swear I wasn't even

2422
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,800
drinking. And that's what

2423
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,560
um this is I'm sure you all know Ariel.

2424
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,600
Uh I like to say he was in charge at

2425
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,960
South School. Um but he worked at South

2426
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:42,400
School and facilities for 27 years. It

2427
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,639
was four or five principles I think that

2428
01:45:44,639 --> 01:45:48,320
he went through. He knew uh every kid.

2429
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,320
Um he helped them all learn to tie their

2430
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,920
shoes and did the the not fun work of

2431
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,880
cleaning up things and um was just a

2432
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,560
strong strong presence for all of the

2433
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,800
families and there was a beautiful

2434
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,679
celebration that alumni were invited to.

2435
01:46:05,679 --> 01:46:09,199
We made a big um goodbye tunnel u with

2436
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:12,960
music and it was spectacular. Um and if

2437
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,360
you still want to see Ariel, he still

2438
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,080
works at the Costco. Um, so you can go

2439
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,960
by and see him there. Um, but it was

2440
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,000
just a great uh I was at South School

2441
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,480
twice and like in a week. Um, and it's

2442
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:29,600
just great that most of us move here for

2443
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,560
the schools and it was um really

2444
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,880
fantastic to see the that connection

2445
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,480
there and I think Oh, is it North ran

2446
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:40,480
that place too

2447
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,960
and I think that was my last slide. Yes.

2448
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:43,840
Thank you.

2449
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,679
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Rexdale. One more

2450
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:47,920
thing, Council Member Schwang, also

2451
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:51,360
known as chair of SAMR,

2452
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:57,750
she didn't mention that. So,

2453
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,480
» thank you. Um, yes, my colleagues have

2454
01:47:00,480 --> 01:47:02,960
already mentioned a lot of what the past

2455
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,199
couple of months have looked like. Um,

2456
01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:06,320
and I thank them for their

2457
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,080
participation. I did participate in some

2458
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,679
of these events, so I will not repeat

2459
01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:11,920
it. However, um I would like to do a

2460
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,400
quick update on CACAG meeting which is

2461
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:20,560
the um cities of um the basically the 21

2462
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,960
uh cities in the San Monteo County that

2463
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,480
are represented by this government

2464
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:29,360
agency meets monthly and often deal with

2465
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:33,040
um legislative agendas or bills that are

2466
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,840
moving through the state legislature. Um

2467
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,600
in this case in this last meeting in

2468
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,239
December 11th we

2469
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:42,000
specifically of note that I would like

2470
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,840
to bring back is we had a presentation

2471
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,080
from 21 elements of the San Monteo

2472
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,280
County which is a clearing house of um

2473
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,520
just housing information and assistance

2474
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,080
with our reena numbers and making sure

2475
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,119
we're staying on schedule. And the most

2476
01:47:57,119 --> 01:47:59,199
significant information that was given

2477
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:03,920
to us was that Reena 7 will start 2028

2478
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,719
through 2029. That information will be

2479
01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:09,760
forthcoming. Um Abag, which is the

2480
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,800
entity that calculates what every

2481
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,360
municipality's reena seven allocations

2482
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,760
would look like, we'll be starting

2483
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,159
working on that um within the next six

2484
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:23,119
months to 12 months. Um, so just to sort

2485
01:48:23,119 --> 01:48:25,920
of keep it in our blinders and they

2486
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,840
really are recommending that every

2487
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,040
municipality start work early on meeting

2488
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,679
their resoning targets. So I just want

2489
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:36,000
to pass that along to my colleagues. Not

2490
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,239
as much fun news as the stuff you were

2491
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:42,320
talking about, but unfortunately that's what they're

2492
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,600
talking about. [snorts] Um, otherwise um

2493
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,119
I had a wonderful holiday with my

2494
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:50,080
family. Yeah. And um also one more

2495
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,520
important thing that also happened at

2496
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:56,159
CCAG, our council member Chuang was

2497
01:48:56,159 --> 01:48:59,199
reappointed to one shoreline uh board of

2498
01:48:59,199 --> 01:49:07,910
directors. Congratulations.

2499
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,600
With that said, oh yeah, go ahead,

2500
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,199
Council Member Trunk.

2501
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:11,600
>> Uh

2502
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:12,639
>> she's busy.

2503
01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:15,920
>> Uh well, thank you very much for your um

2504
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,960
kind acknowledgement. Um I I do want to

2505
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,400
u remind the staff that because the uh

2506
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,239
El Camino Real's improvement project is

2507
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:28,320
taking place and it will be happening

2508
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:31,360
for the next three years and most likely

2509
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,159
four. Um the traffic is going to be

2510
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:36,960
horrendous and so to the extent that the

2511
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:40,159
PD the public work I think is all hands

2512
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:42,480
on deck. Even though the communication

2513
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:45,360
most likely come from Berling game, I

2514
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,119
would you know implore that we pay

2515
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:50,080
attention to it and remind our residents

2516
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,600
to um avoid those area if they're in a

2517
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,119
hurry. Um so and then be mindful of the

2518
01:49:57,119 --> 01:49:59,040
SMC alert. I think that that would be

2519
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:00,480
very helpful.

2520
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:02,560
>> Um before I adjourn, I would like to ask

2521
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,280
our city attorney. We had we didn't

2522
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,119
finish our close session meeting and we

2523
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:09,119
talked about resuming it after the city

2524
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:10,639
council meeting. Is that still

2525
01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:12,239
appropriate to do so?

2526
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:13,840
>> It is, mayor. Um, we would just want to

2527
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:14,960
note for the public that you're going to

2528
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,320
convene in close session and consider

2529
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,480
item C at the conclusion of this public

2530
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:19,679
meeting.

2531
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:21,920
>> Thank you. And with that said, this

2532
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:31,830
meeting is now adjourned.

2533
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,480
» Um, the city council is um now reporting

2534
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:37,119
from close session and we need to take

2535
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:39,760
um a roll call. Correct.

2536
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,119
>> I'll just go ahead and announce for the

2537
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:42,880
record that all council members are

2538
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:43,679
present.

2539
01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:45,760
>> We all here and I'll turn it over to our

2540
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:46,719
city attorney.

2541
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:48,320
>> No, thank you uh Mayor Cole. I just

2542
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:49,600
wanted to note that council did

2543
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,199
reconvene in close session to consider

2544
01:50:51,199 --> 01:50:53,760
item C on the close session agenda. At

2545
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,040
the conclusion of that direction was

2546
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,320
given to staff, but otherwise there was

2547
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:57,679
no reportable action under the Brown

2548
01:50:57,679 --> 01:50:59,600
Act. Thank you. Okay.

2549
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,360
>> Thank you.

2550
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,159
This session this meeting is now closed.

2551
01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:07,159
Thanks.