[0:03] Good morning everyone. Welcome to our [0:06] special city council meeting. This [0:08] meeting is a goal setting meeting and um [0:11] the Hillsboro City Council meeting is [0:12] now called to order. Um city clerk, may [0:15] we please have the roll call. [0:18] >> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams present [0:22] Kwick [0:22] >> present. [0:23] >> Ragdale present. Cole [0:25] >> present. [0:25] >> Thank you. [0:27] Um this me meeting um will be conducted [0:30] and at least the presentation will be [0:32] from uh city manager Doug Davis and [0:34] assistant city manager Mandy Brown where [0:36] they will be outlining our goal setting [0:38] and work plan going forward for fiscal [0:40] year 20 um 26 27 with a review of 202526 [0:46] goals and status. I will now um turn it [0:49] over to our city manager Doug Davis. [0:53] >> Thank you madame mayor and good morning [0:54] everyone. Um, as you said, we're going [0:56] to be looking at our goal setting [0:58] sessions. And good morning to staff. [0:59] Thanks for all the hard work you put [1:00] into this. And for the people in [1:02] attendance, Dr. Weineberg, thanks for [1:05] being here. Uh, so we're going to go, [1:07] this was a structure meeting where we're [1:08] going to go over the previous goals of [1:10] the uh, last fiscal year and give you an [1:12] update as to kind of where we're at with [1:14] that. That should be fairly quick and [1:16] that'll be done by our department heads [1:17] as they go through their individual [1:19] goals. And then the second part of the [1:20] meeting will be to set the goals for the [1:22] following fiscal year. Some of these [1:24] will be carryovers as they're things [1:26] that are multi-year programs and then [1:28] others will be new ones as well. It is [1:30] fairly structured in its format in the [1:32] way we have it here. But I don't want [1:34] that to take away from the creativity. [1:35] It's just a structure for us to move [1:37] forward. The goal here is to capture [1:39] everything that we kind of want to do in [1:41] the following year and the updates and [1:43] then to move forward. And so with that, [1:45] Mandy will start taking us through the [1:46] slides and we'll have our department [1:48] heads report out. [1:51] >> Thank you. Um yes, as he said, it it is [1:54] very structured in how it's presented, [1:56] but um as we go through, especially the [1:58] previous year's goals and updates, feel [2:00] free to ask questions during um to add [2:04] clarity and department heads and staff [2:06] can um can answer as we go along rather [2:08] than waiting to the end. um if that [2:10] serves the council well. [2:14] So just the agenda which uh city manager [2:16] Doug Davis already went through. [2:19] Um revisiting the goals that were agreed [2:21] upon last year just at a high level have [2:24] these listed on these first two slides. [2:26] We're going to walk through each one [2:28] briefly just to say uh where we're at. [2:31] Many of these will carry over to this [2:34] year um when you look at the list of [2:35] proposed goals, but it does give a [2:37] status update um of where we are. [2:43] So the first one was to improve [2:44] community's emergency preparedness and [2:46] resiliency efforts um with the major [2:49] projects listed in that first column. Uh [2:52] the townwide chipping program which as [2:54] you know the town does in partnership [2:56] with Firewise um thanks to Dr. David [2:59] Weineberg. And so a status of the last [3:01] chipping program um over a thousand [3:04] homes and 41 participants uh traffic [3:06] control provided by public works this [3:08] time which was a huge help. So big [3:10] thanks to public works um and we were [3:13] able to secure a grant actually through [3:15] the state um funded by our uh tied to [3:18] our SP 1383 requirements. Uh so this [3:21] shipping program was entirely grant-f [3:23] funded this past year. Um and so not [3:27] missing a beat, Dr. Weineberg is already [3:28] working on the next shipping program for [3:31] June 2026. [3:34] The next goal was to provide support to [3:36] H&N to enhance emergency preparedness. [3:38] So they completed their H&N strategic [3:41] plan with uh community engagement and [3:44] working with CCFD closely. So the next [3:48] step will be to implement that [3:49] three-year strategic plan. Um and I [3:51] don't know if um anyone wants to add [3:54] anything to that. Um any other details? [3:56] Council member Chwang or William? [3:58] >> In progress. [3:59] Great. Um next one is to [4:02] reduce risk and impacts caused by power [4:04] outages. U we do have a new PG& rep. So [4:07] the town has been working closely with [4:08] her um to establish communication [4:12] methods and make sure that the town is [4:14] uh kept apprised of outages. Uh how we [4:18] can bring that forward to our residents [4:20] and make the tools for power outages [4:22] more available. and when they know when [4:24] their power is coming back on. And we [4:27] have been speaking with her recently [4:28] about doing a study session um just to [4:31] give some additional information on [4:33] their processes. Um we also have been [4:36] working with them, this is more recent, [4:38] on the tree trimming that they do in [4:40] town. Um and we're reworking, they're [4:43] going to let us know in advance before [4:44] they come in and do some of the tree [4:46] trimming so that we can share that [4:47] information with public works. um and so [4:50] we know when they're going to be here um [4:52] because sometimes they will leave [4:54] certain limbs around um so that we're [4:57] aware of of what the work that they're [4:58] doing. [5:00] >> You're the mayor. [5:02] >> Yes. [5:04] >> Could I just ask um so this morning the [5:06] biggest news is uh San Francisco is [5:08] looking into partways with PG&E. I [5:11] wonder if that kind of a conversation [5:14] are the staff following up on sort of [5:17] the process or if uh PCE is uh also [5:22] looking into um just what what that [5:27] formation is going to look like um going [5:30] forward. J [5:33] >> I know it's been discussed um and I [5:36] there was an article I think in the SF [5:39] standard with uh uh I believe it was u [5:43] Mr. Weiner who has sponsored the bill to [5:46] do that. So it has to go through the CPU [5:48] and go through an eminent domain [5:49] procedure. But something that I know [5:52] that the SFPUC has been approached in [5:54] the past to take over for electrical [5:56] services in San Francisco and to provide [5:59] an alternate option to San Franciscans. [6:02] Um has been discussed potentially in the [6:04] peninsula. I'm not sure if the city [6:06] managers association uh will take that [6:08] or if there will be somebody that also [6:10] sponsors something. Similarly, at the um [6:13] public works director's uh meetings and [6:15] the city engineers meetings, we have [6:18] requested meeting with somebody and [6:21] higher up with Peny because uh not just [6:23] our community but all the other [6:25] communities in the peninsula have had [6:27] the problem with Peny cutting trees and [6:30] uh leaving the debris at the side of the [6:32] road which is a fire hazard and a hazard [6:34] for vermin. But uh there's just a really [6:36] a poor lack of communication and Piny [6:38] and the reps have chosen to not [6:41] communicate with any of the cities. So [6:43] we're going to be a little more formal [6:44] as a group of all the cities of public [6:46] works directors to try again to reach [6:49] out to Peny's leadership to see if [6:51] they'll even talk to us because as you [6:54] know our previous even government [6:55] liaison uh has left Pug Gugen so there's [6:58] also a void and some communication [7:01] between the groups. [7:03] Yeah, I I I think that is worth uh [7:05] looking into just follow up to make sure [7:07] that we're you know because we our [7:10] residents also experienced you know [7:12] challenges with BG&'s um blackouts um [7:15] and the lack of notices and the the [7:18] delay in you know reservicing the [7:20] electricity. So I do think that this is [7:23] something um of interest that we should [7:26] follow up and and and see what that is. [7:32] Yes, you may continue. Thank you. [7:34] >> Thank you. [7:34] Council Member Schwan. [7:36] >> And then the uh next project was the [7:39] wildfire preparedness building code [7:40] amendments for council considerations. [7:42] So, we did have the study session to [7:44] discuss potential code modifications. [7:46] I've been engaged with Firewise on their [7:49] input and recommendations. [7:51] Um right now staff is working to bring [7:53] something forward um for additional [7:56] council consideration and integrating it [7:57] with some of our other plans, the safety [7:59] element, um the vulnerability assessment [8:02] which you'll see more in the uh the next [8:05] year's goals. Um but theformational [8:08] update scheduled for April um on this [8:10] and then educational materials are [8:13] already being circulated and you'll [8:15] you've seen some in the bill inserts. [8:18] there will be another bill message with [8:19] educational um materials and [8:22] recommendations on things you can do [8:24] voluntarily um in your next um solid [8:27] waste bill. So, this is ongoing unless [8:29] staff wants to add anything. [8:33] » Um I just have a clarifying question. Um [8:36] Council Member Adams also has a [8:37] question. You may go. You may [8:39] >> Thank you. I just want to go back. I [8:40] think we skipped number four in [8:42] discussion. So, we'll come back. [8:44] >> I'm sorry. That was a big one, too. [8:47] um improve access to wireless service. [8:49] Yes, as you know, we had the community [8:50] meeting to solicit feedback and that [8:53] helped inform the scope for a [8:55] telecommunication needs assessment RFP [8:58] which is out now. Um so it's been posted [9:00] and been circulated to uh qualified [9:03] firms and so we hope to have that uh [9:06] closed and someone on board in the next [9:08] month. [9:10] >> Thank you. Um my question on item five, [9:13] the wildfire preparedness and the code [9:16] um amendments. Is that going to be part [9:19] of a discussion in a city council [9:22] meeting or is it a study session? What [9:24] are you anticipating in terms of the [9:27] format of that? [9:29] Uh yes, there will be a discussion on [9:31] how we'll approach that and what the [9:33] sequencing will be based on uh sorry [9:36] assembly uh AB130 [9:39] an interpretation of how we'll integrate [9:41] any upgrades to the code. [9:44] >> So it would actually be part of a city [9:46] council public session discussion, [9:48] public hearing discussion, not a special [9:52] part of the discussion in April. [9:53] >> Okay. Thank you. [9:58] Yes, Mandy, you may proceed. [10:00] >> And then the next um goal is largely uh [10:04] billing and planning. So I will pass it [10:06] off to um Tim Anderson and Liz Ree to go [10:09] through this slide [10:16] clerk multifamily housing. U right now [10:19] we've initiated finished phase one and [10:22] um are moving on to initiating phase [10:24] two. Could you move it closer? We can't [10:27] quite hear you. [10:28] >> Sorry. [10:30] >> Tobin Clark, uh, multif family housing [10:32] site. Uh, we've engaged with management [10:35] services and completed phase one. Uh, [10:38] moving on to phase two at this time. And [10:41] same with town hall complex. Uh, phase [10:43] one, uh, initial study looking at [10:46] placement and needs. Moving on to master [10:50] plan development phase two. [10:58] Sorry. [11:05] » For number three is the accessory [11:07] dwelling unit ADU program. Um we're [11:10] excited that we exceeded the housing [11:12] element um promise for this last year in [11:17] terms of ADU permitting. Our goal was 50 [11:19] a year. We were at 58. And um we [11:24] developed an ADU informational interview [11:26] and video series. Those videos are going [11:28] to be up on our website [11:32] soon. And we also linked in a digital [11:35] ADU rental questionnaire. You'll hear [11:38] more about this in at the next city [11:39] council meeting um when I'm presenting [11:41] our annual progress report and our ADU [11:44] ordinance update. Um, but the next steps [11:47] on those are again at the next city [11:49] council meeting, we'll have an update to [11:51] that ADU ordinance. And one of our [11:53] planned uh programs is in our [11:56] partnership with hip housing to continue [11:58] to promote our ADU rentals and matching [12:00] program is in the next couple months to [12:03] hold an ADU mixer here at town hall for [12:06] those who have an ADU or may be [12:08] interested in in in building an ADU and [12:10] have any interest in in rentals. Number [12:13] four is to continue to implement the [12:15] programs and fees related to our housing [12:18] element. One of the items that you've [12:20] heard me discuss several times before [12:22] the council is our affordable housing [12:25] impact fee and that includes also [12:27] exploring any type of inclusionary and [12:29] loo fee pathways. And that is um it's [12:33] similar to an impact fee that would be [12:35] assessed on [12:38] uh new single family um residential [12:41] construction and those fees would be uh [12:46] set aside to subsidize [12:49] affordable deed restricted units and [12:51] that could be for ADUs or there' be [12:53] other opportunities for the town to use [12:55] that funding. [12:56] In related to that, we are working with [13:00] several other similar jurisdictions that [13:02] had similar housing element programs in [13:04] their housing elements um specifically [13:07] Portola Valley, Athetherton, and [13:08] Woodside to partner with them to do a [13:11] nexus study because we all need the same [13:13] data to justify the same impact fees. [13:15] So, that's something that we're working [13:16] on with those jurisdictions to initiate [13:19] that nexus study. [13:21] And then we also have a consultant um [13:24] that we've initiated work with to [13:26] develop our objective design standards. [13:29] This is something that um is [13:30] statemandated and we've been talking [13:32] about for a while. So we're excited to [13:34] get that um program launched. The next [13:37] phase of that is that we'll have a city [13:38] council study session to review those um [13:42] the results of that nexus study and any [13:44] proposed fees and then also to we'll [13:48] have several phases of community [13:49] engagement. um presenting any proposed [13:52] objective design standards to the ADRB [13:54] as well as the community and the city [13:56] council. [13:58] >> Um I have a Yeah, go ahead. Um Vice [14:01] Mayor Rexdale. [14:02] >> Um uh first of all, thank you all for [14:05] coming here so early in the morning and [14:07] being so incredibly organized. Um I had [14:10] just one um uh request for the uh a in [14:14] preparation for the ADU mixer. My [14:17] understanding is that the application [14:20] through hip housing and we have talked [14:22] to them about it um is a little more [14:25] detailed than is needed if someone is in [14:27] a separate building. It talks about your [14:30] cooking habits and sleep and wake habits [14:32] and those kind of things. Um so I was [14:36] wondering if that's something maybe we [14:38] could talk to them about before that mix [14:40] or if someone's in a separate building [14:41] maybe that could be um simplified a [14:43] little bit so we don't scare people [14:45] away. Sure. And um I know that this has [14:47] come up previously and we've staff has [14:49] spoken with Hip Housing about that [14:51] before as well. And none of those [14:53] questions are mandatory. It's part of [14:55] their effort to create really compatible [14:58] living together agreements so that if [15:00] somebody has um a particular preference [15:02] that perhaps isn't a top of mind, but [15:04] they see it in the application, it may [15:06] occur to them that that would be a deal [15:08] breakaker that they weren't aware of. [15:09] So, uh, they're not mandatory from what [15:13] I understand from my conversation with [15:14] hip housing, but absolutely that's [15:16] something that we can talk with them [15:17] about before that mixer so that they [15:20] come um with options. [15:23] >> Thank you. Yeah, maybe making them [15:26] really obvious that they're not [15:27] mandatory instead of a tiny little [15:29] asterisk or or whatever it is. And um [15:31] through the mayor, uh, Council Member [15:32] Adams had a question to you. [15:33] >> Yes, Council Member Adams. [15:34] >> I just want to follow up. I've also [15:36] heard about this and I think we need to [15:39] condition uh having the application be [15:42] more applicable first to ADUs but also [15:45] to Hillsboro residents and that would be [15:48] a condition of the mixer and also of [15:52] some of the support we give to them [15:54] because I don't think they've been [15:55] responsive in a productive way. [15:58] >> Sure. I think that's reasonable and we [16:00] have an expanded relationship with them [16:02] outside of just the standard um match [16:04] program. So, I think it's reasonable [16:06] that we could request um a bit more [16:08] customization. [16:10] >> I also council member Schwang, do you [16:12] have a question? [16:13] >> Yeah, mayor. Thank you so much. Um this [16:16] question is actually for Tim. Thank you [16:18] so much for the updates and I want to [16:20] thank um our ad hoc committees for both [16:23] uh the Tobin Clark and also for the town [16:25] hall. Um when you mentioned that the [16:28] next step is the master plan development [16:32] what does that mean and what is the [16:34] expectations of uh this coming year you [16:38] know whether it's at the council level [16:41] or is it going to be a public outreach I [16:44] just want to have a clarity because last [16:46] year it was relatively quiet and I know [16:48] the ad hoc committees have been working [16:51] hard uh behind the scenes but you know [16:53] at the end of the day is the council [16:56] um need to receive the presentation. So [17:00] what is the process? [17:06] » Sorry, not to steal it from him. [17:09] Um are you asking about both Tobin Clark [17:11] and town hall or one specifically? [17:14] >> Well, I I'm mo interested in both [17:16] because we haven't heard much about uh [17:18] either. Sure. uh at least you know from [17:20] the public perspectives or on the [17:22] council and so um I I was just wondering [17:26] when you said the next step that is the [17:29] uh what is this the master plan [17:32] development what does that mean? [17:33] >> Sure. [17:34] >> Is it very is seems very broad. [17:36] >> Yes it is. Um so so both are I mean [17:40] they're quite different from each other [17:42] in terms of context but the initial [17:45] phase for both of these phase one is so [17:49] much behind the scenes work [17:50] understanding access understanding [17:53] limitations in terms of utilities [17:55] understanding what can actually be done [17:57] there in terms of site constraints um [18:00] both for Tobin Clark and for town hall uh that process started [18:05] more uh earlier than Tobin Clark and um [18:10] but is not necessarily less complicated. [18:12] I know at the last presentation to city [18:14] council, we brought back some of the [18:16] assumptions that had been discussed in [18:18] the subcommittee meeting that included [18:21] eliminating um CCFD from the program and [18:24] that had originally been a really large [18:26] portion of the program. So, um [18:29] eliminating that just because the needs [18:31] couldn't be met and CCFD has um an [18:34] alternative uh that really changed what [18:37] could be considered on the site as well [18:38] as exploring opportunities to um annex [18:42] and potentially expand the footprint of [18:44] the site. So, when we talk about a [18:47] master plan, what's what's going into [18:49] that is test fitting the site. So [18:51] looking at what are the necessary [18:53] elements of the program, what are some [18:56] of the um the bonus elements of the [18:58] program that could be accommodated here [19:00] but may not necessarily be a set [19:02] requirement. So all of that work is [19:04] continuing to go on. Um and our plan is [19:07] to bring back I think for both of the [19:08] subcommittees um certainly for town hall [19:10] complex in the next um in the next [19:14] months in the in the near future to [19:16] bring back a subcommittee update to the [19:18] full city council about what has been [19:21] done to date and sort of what the next [19:22] steps are. The master plan um [19:25] specifically for town hall is looking at [19:28] where the buildings would be located, [19:30] what um what work is necessary to [19:33] accommodate the utilities and the [19:36] construction needs, what the parking [19:38] configuration would be. I know that in [19:40] the past we talked a lot about the [19:42] parking constraints just due to the [19:44] site, the size of the site and whether [19:46] or not underground parking would be [19:48] required, but there are um trade-offs [19:50] with that versus above ground versus [19:52] annexation, which would expand the [19:54] footprint and potentially address the [19:56] needs to go or uh eliminate the need to [19:58] go uh below grade or above grade. So, [20:00] it's all of those considerations. The [20:03] master plan development is uh which is [20:06] the phase two which is the next step is [20:09] really saying this is where things [20:10] should be. This is what the program can [20:13] be. These are the estimated costs [20:16] associated with that and then moving [20:18] forward with really robust community [20:19] engagement and understanding um all of [20:23] the moving uh pieces that go into those [20:26] elements of the program. So through the [20:29] mayor, uh just to follow up, uh I I [20:31] think that you know to the city manager [20:32] and to the staff, this is critical [20:35] because the housing cycle is important [20:37] for us to meet the standards. Um but by [20:39] the same tokens I think that you know uh [20:42] it's a very passionate shall we say uh [20:46] subject matters for our uh town [20:49] residents and and so I I think that you [20:52] know um while we were talking about the [20:54] master plans I think that the regular [20:56] updates going forward would be really helpful because [21:01] the pathway while the ad hoc committees [21:04] are passionate about it and and grateful [21:06] for for their dedications it at the end [21:08] of the day is the full council who's [21:10] going to be uh you know making the [21:12] decisions on this and we need to [21:14] incorporate and bring the public along [21:17] the way in terms of where we're looking [21:19] at those things and so um I I do hope [21:22] that coming forward we'll we'll have a [21:25] much more robust and regular update so [21:28] that we know uh the full council and the [21:31] public know where we're at the town in [21:34] terms of all this progress that we're [21:37] Thank you. [21:39] >> Um, thank you. I also have some [21:41] follow-up questions. Um, going back to [21:44] um, well, first let me just make a few [21:46] comments that may address some of um, [21:49] the issues um, council member Trang [21:51] brought up um, the ad hoc committee for [21:54] the Tobin Clark. um very involved in [21:56] that with um council member Adams and [21:58] the consulting teams and we are hoping [22:02] to transition from an ad hoc to a sub a [22:04] regular standing subcommittee which will [22:06] do regular briefings to the city council [22:09] um in the very near future. We are about [22:11] to enter uh conversations with CSM and [22:14] those conversations cannot be open to [22:16] the public at this stage and that's why [22:18] it remains an ad hoc. After that, we [22:21] will transition and we'll be doing [22:22] regular briefings to the city council. [22:24] So, thanks for bringing that up and [22:26] that's noted. Um, regarding the fees, [22:29] the affordable housing impact fees, how what are the general parameters? How [22:35] are those calculated? I mean, in [22:37] general, not exact numbers, but what are [22:39] the thoughts or criteria behind how they [22:42] established? [22:43] >> Sure. So, uh, that will be determined [22:46] through this nexus study that we want to [22:48] do in partnership with other similar [22:49] jurisdictions because, um, you know, [22:53] similar to, uh, our community, those [22:55] jurisdictions don't have the same impact [22:58] fees that larger jurisdictions that have [23:00] more commercial and hotels have. So, [23:03] establishing a fee that is specifically [23:05] tied to the development of above market [23:09] rate single family residential [23:11] requires a unique set of data. So, we [23:13] haven't determined what that fee would [23:15] be um or exactly what the um uh trigger [23:20] would be. Uh the initial thought is that [23:23] it would be a fee that's a minor [23:26] percentage similar to our other impact [23:28] fees like we have a school impact fee, [23:29] construction, uh road impact fees that [23:32] are assessed on new construction that [23:35] this fee would be similarly assessed to [23:37] those projects. I think the initial [23:39] threshold is um new single family above [23:44] market rate construction. So if somebody [23:46] does a demolition and rebuild or if it's [23:48] a vacant lot and they're being building [23:49] a new house, this fee would be assessed [23:52] on that so that those funds could be [23:54] earmarked to go towards this um what [23:57] we're calling right now a housing choice [23:58] fund. And those funds would be available [24:01] to subsidize units that were being [24:03] developed with a deed restriction. So if [24:05] they're guaranteed at a below market [24:07] rate level, there would be a way for [24:10] them to qualify for that subsidy. And so [24:12] determining what that fee is and also [24:14] what the appropriate way to distribute [24:17] those funds equitably, it would be part [24:21] of the nexus study [24:23] >> and and that is a consulting a [24:25] consultant who would be advising you in [24:27] terms of how to calculate those impact [24:29] fees. [24:30] >> Correct. And our hope with partnering [24:32] with Pullola Valley and other similar [24:34] communities is one there's a cost [24:36] sharing. Um we need to develop the same [24:38] data. Um and [24:42] if we're using the same data in a [24:44] similar way it makes it makes it easier [24:48] to assess those fees if there's um you [24:51] know if if it's similar to how other [24:53] jurisdictions are doing it. [24:54] >> And and the reason I'm asking this [24:56] question is because we don't have any [24:57] commercial activities. [24:59] >> Correct. [24:59] >> Currently. So who are we going to be [25:02] comparing with ourselves to would be I [25:04] assume but most of the other communities [25:07] except for maybe ain but even Woodside [25:09] has some commercial [25:10] >> correct [25:10] >> I don't think ain has any [25:12] >> so [25:13] >> right [25:14] >> you know because we don't want to be in [25:16] a situation where later on someone would [25:17] say well why are you comparing [25:19] yourselves to other communities that [25:21] have commercial activities and the [25:22] impact fees there would be different [25:24] >> yes [25:25] >> so we'll have to select communities that [25:26] are very similar to ours correct [25:29] >> absolutely Okay. Y [25:30] >> and also regarding the design standards, [25:33] you said we already have a consultant [25:35] that's going to help us design that or [25:37] come up with a plan on that. Is that [25:39] >> Yes. So we have a consultant on board. [25:41] It's good city company. We've worked [25:42] with them before on um several projects. [25:45] So they're very familiar with um our [25:48] municipal code and the um character of [25:53] the community. And so they are working [25:56] with us to review our existing design [26:00] standards to determine if any of them [26:02] and some of them are are already [26:04] objective or if they could be tweaked to [26:07] read as more objective as they currently [26:10] are. Under state law, we cannot add any [26:14] subjective design standards and [26:16] currently most of our design standards [26:18] outside of the ADU ordinance are [26:20] subjective. So we want to strengthen [26:22] those so that we can continue [26:23] implementing them and the way to do that [26:25] is to um make them objective and it also [26:29] provides more clarity for applicants. It [26:31] makes the the review process and the [26:34] ministerial review processes that we're [26:36] required to do under state law much more [26:38] streamlined and it's a way to preserve [26:40] our design standards in a way that stays [26:42] true to the character of the town. [26:44] >> Okay. So these design standards [26:45] specifically apply to ADUs and single [26:48] family residents. We're not talking [26:50] about design standards for multif family [26:51] housing. [26:52] >> Absolutely not. No, those are those projects would be separate. Yes. [26:55] >> Okay. Um yes. Um Council Member Adams [26:59] has additional questions. Go ahead, [27:01] >> Madam Mayor. Um I want to make sure that [27:03] I didn't misunderstand the deed [27:06] restricted affordable housing [27:10] uh ADU issue that you brought up. Is [27:13] this something people could elect to do? [27:15] And what would be the benefit to the [27:19] citizens? [27:20] >> Correct. Right now we don't have any [27:22] requirement for deed restricted units. [27:25] Um the benefit to them would they would [27:28] be eligible for this subsidy if they [27:31] deed restricted their unit. So the [27:34] benefit to them is that they're these [27:35] additional funds would be available to [27:37] them. [27:38] >> But it would not influence at all the [27:40] application to have an ADU. [27:43] >> No, absolutely not. [27:44] >> Okay. Thank you. [27:47] >> Okay, great. Um I think we c we may [27:50] proceed to the next section. Thank you. [27:52] Thanks for asking those questions. [27:54] >> And this next one um next goal is [27:58] enhance quality of life and the first [28:00] item was to the bolster the code [28:01] enforcement program um which largely [28:04] also is building and planning. So, I'll [28:06] let um Tim speak to it in a second, but [28:08] this has really been a citywide um or [28:11] townwide uh effort this year with moving [28:15] this function from the police department [28:17] to the building and planning department. [28:19] Um right now it's filled with a a [28:21] contract code enforcement officer, but [28:23] working with HR to develop a job [28:25] description uh for a code compliance [28:27] coordinator, do that recruitment um [28:30] which is in the final stages. Um and [28:32] then obviously HPD does support some of [28:35] our code enforcement activities still [28:37] and uh Chief Colola uh has been very [28:41] helpful in especially the gas leaf [28:43] blowers and sending u patrol out there [28:46] to remind gardeners about the ban and [28:50] give them the resources. So um we've [28:52] actually received quite a few [28:54] compliments on code enforcement which is [28:56] not always the case in every town. So, [28:58] um it's a work in progress, but we're [29:01] it's been um going very well so far. And [29:03] I'll let Tim add a little bit about the [29:06] code compliance coordinator position. [29:10] >> Uh yeah, as Mandy just explained, we've [29:12] taken on the role of code enforcement, [29:14] but changed the title to be more [29:16] descriptive of what we're planning for [29:18] that position. And it's going to be one [29:21] part traditional code enforcement uh you [29:24] know regulating of the municipal code [29:27] illegal parked vehicles, garbage cans, [29:29] uh property line disputes, trees, etc. [29:32] But another portion of it is going to be [29:35] to help out building staff uh monitoring [29:38] construction sites for uh longevity of [29:41] the project. Uh whether or not they're [29:43] tracking their bonds correctly, that [29:45] they're on track to complete the [29:46] project. And also just being another set [29:48] of eyes out there in the in the field [29:50] daily. um able to take a look at the [29:53] site conditions, current site [29:54] conditions, whether or not they're using [29:56] their dumpsters or whatever elements [29:59] that they have imposed on them for [30:01] construction as their their construction [30:03] management plan. Uh another enforcing u [30:07] body out there in the field. We've [30:08] traditionally um over the past 2530 [30:12] years just had one field inspector daily [30:14] out making rounds going to um not [30:17] necessarily everywhere in town but just [30:19] wherever they're called for that [30:20] particular day. And this is going to be [30:23] an additional support mechanism. They'll [30:25] have a list of projects that either that [30:27] have become on our radar because they're [30:29] falling behind or they've had parking [30:32] issues or several neighbor complaints or [30:34] they're starting too early. Um, and [30:36] that's going to be a big portion of what [30:38] the code compliance coordinator along [30:40] with just the standard code enforcement [30:42] operations is going to accomplish for [30:45] her. And as uh Mandy said, we're in the [30:47] final stages. I think to gez, today's [30:50] Monday, Thursday, I believe is our final [30:53] interview. And hopefully we'll be giving [30:54] an offer sometime to an applicant um [30:57] sometime later in the week or early next [30:59] week. So, it's coming close. [31:05] Um, I I do have a follow-up question on [31:08] that specific issue. Um, regarding [31:10] construction fencing, it was always my [31:12] understanding that when a project is [31:14] under construction, they're required to [31:16] have a green fence. Um, if it's I guess [31:20] if it's adjacent to the right of way. [31:22] I'm not sure if they what the language [31:24] is around the requirement. And when [31:28] projects are not compliance with that, [31:31] what are the exceptions that would allow [31:33] that? Because sometimes residents will [31:35] send me a photo and say, "Why is this [31:38] going on, so to speak? There's no [31:39] construction fence. There's mud all over [31:41] the place, etc., etc. Could you just [31:44] >> Yeah. And not every project will require [31:47] construction fencing. There are certain [31:48] thresholds that that get them into that [31:51] uh restriction or, you know, that [31:53] element needs to be applied. And that's [31:55] at the $750,000 valuation to where we [31:58] can then have a construction comp uh [32:01] management program, which gives us all [32:03] the tools to make sure that they're [32:05] parking in their correct location, that [32:07] they have ingress and egress that's not [32:09] tracking mud. We still do try to monitor [32:12] the ingress and egress regardless of the [32:15] level of uh or valuation of the project, [32:18] but uh the fences aren't necessarily [32:20] immediately or automatically required. [32:23] So, so it depends on the value of the [32:25] project [32:26] >> more and we can evaluate a project [32:28] that's below 750. If we if it warrants [32:30] that it needs fencing, if there's a [32:31] hazard or if it's something that needs [32:33] to be uh addressed, then we can impose [32:35] that with just a simple correction [32:38] notice. And with regards to the [32:40] schedule, if a project I believe is it [32:43] two years for each bond, could you just [32:45] explain how that works again in terms of [32:47] how long once you get the permit, [32:50] >> how long do you have to complete your [32:52] project? [32:53] >> Every project uh will be given the [32:54] aotted time based on valuation. So [32:58] depending on the size scope of work, um [33:01] what doesn't entirely get recognized is [33:04] the fact that that bond is only [33:06] applicable to the single family [33:08] dwelling. And as we know, most of these [33:10] projects also will have an ADU or they [33:12] might get a new pool and and an ADU and [33:15] a pool house or cabana, new landscaping. [33:19] Um all those are separate permits, not [33:22] under the timeline of the single family [33:24] dwelling. So we will hear [33:27] quite often that a project's been going [33:29] on for three three and a half years. [33:31] Well, if we look at the actual building [33:33] permit, typically that has for the [33:35] single family dwelling has not expired [33:37] or has not gone past. It's all the [33:39] additional work on site that gives the [33:42] neighbors specifically the impression [33:44] that this project is three and a half, [33:46] four years long. [33:48] >> That's really helpful to know um in [33:51] terms of clarification. And is there a [33:53] state law that precludes us from putting [33:56] um time limit on the permits let's say [33:58] for ADUs or other accessory structures? [34:02] I mean what what is what are the rules [34:05] currently and are we constrained by [34:07] state laws? Uh you can be constrained by [34:10] state laws if the but what we hang our [34:12] hat on is those projects that are have [34:15] uh posted a bond for completion. Uh that [34:18] is the the carrot. That's what that's [34:20] what hopefully motivates them to stay on [34:22] track and get to completion within a [34:25] reasonable amount of time. Um each bond [34:29] um also has the option of requesting a [34:32] 90-day extension uh with reason if they [34:35] have reasons that you know that they can [34:37] indicate or give to us that show why [34:39] this has been delayed. Uh we then send [34:41] out a notice to the adjacent neighbors [34:44] to see if there's any objection to any [34:46] uh 90-day extension. And typically the [34:48] first 90-day extension, we have no [34:50] objection. It's when we start getting [34:52] into the second request uh that we start [34:55] to hear from the neighbors that this is, [34:57] you know, this needs to stop, they need [34:58] to finish, and they need to pay a [35:00] penalty. So, [35:02] >> when you say reasonable amount of time, [35:03] what is a reasonable amount of time for [35:05] the initial bond for, let's say, an [35:07] accessory structure? [35:09] >> Uh, well, for an ADU, it's a 12 month. [35:12] >> Okay. Uh but if if if a project is not [35:15] bonded, then the state does allow for a [35:18] permit to run for quite some time if the [35:22] applicant andor general contractor is [35:24] savvy enough to navigate. There are ways [35:28] to fail an inspection and then wait 180 [35:31] days to call for a reinspection and your [35:33] permit is still active even though [35:35] you've gone another six months. [35:37] >> Gotcha. Thank you. Um Vice Mayor Ragdale [35:39] have questions. [35:41] Uh Tim, that is all super interesting [35:44] and very helpful. Thank you for asking [35:46] those questions. Um get William's [35:49] attention. I would love um an article in [35:52] our newsletter. William or Mandy um some [35:55] kind of FAQ because that is something [35:57] that even if people don't call us or [35:59] don't call you, it's something that [36:01] they're thinking when they drive by a [36:03] construction site that they think is [36:05] going on for too long and they may be [36:08] annoyed by that. Um, I just think that [36:10] that's super helpful. Just [36:13] >> everything you just said, [36:15] >> we've got it recorded into some kind of [36:17] an FAQ. I think that super super [36:19] helpful. I had a quick question. Um, [36:21] comdev, is that community development [36:24] something software or [36:26] >> Yeah, that's that's our permitting [36:27] software. [36:27] >> Okay. [36:28] >> Thank you. [36:31] >> Yes. Um, Council Member Adams, [36:33] >> thank you so much, Tim. and I know it's [36:36] going to be very helpful to get this CCC [36:39] person on board. Uh we're all looking [36:41] forward to that. Will that person also [36:44] be charged with, for example, if they [36:47] see a construction fence go up, but they [36:51] don't see a permit for work, which I [36:55] know I've had complaints about a [36:58] construction fencing that was up for at [37:01] least two years without any work [37:04] happening. So, it may have been that [37:07] they were readying the site or [37:09] something, but do we have a way that [37:12] this CCC can really check against the [37:16] records while they're doing these [37:19] inspections of the town? [37:22] >> Um, yes. um anything that rises to the [37:25] level of say suspicion that you know [37:27] we'll we'll check on every project any [37:29] property any address if it just looks to be abnormal or or or we're not [37:34] aware of why there would be a [37:36] construction fence and as I said earlier [37:39] having that that's also being done [37:41] currently by the building inspector who [37:43] has a finger on the pulse of all active [37:44] permits uh but having this additional [37:47] individual out in the field is only [37:49] going to make things you know better for [37:51] us and be able to uh identify any [37:54] infractions. [37:57] >> Do we have any restrictions on people [38:00] putting up construction fencing without [38:03] a construction project? [38:05] >> Um we do we we well first and foremost [38:08] if it was a fence uh regardless if it's [38:10] a temporary construction fence uh [38:12] potentially could require uh planning [38:15] review or you know we want to make sure [38:17] that it's actually located on the [38:19] private property not in the public [38:20] rightway. um if it's up for a certain [38:23] amount of time without the benefit of a [38:26] permit, it can become a nuisance under [38:28] chapter 8 of our municipal code. Uh so [38:31] there are mechanisms in place, but it's [38:33] not [38:35] the fence example is not something that [38:36] we've had often. [38:38] >> No, it's an unusual circumstance and I [38:40] believe there was a chainlink fence [38:42] there already, so they wouldn't have [38:44] needed a fence permit, but they put up [38:47] the green uh sort of whatever it is. you [38:51] can't see through all the way around [38:53] their property. Um, not a very [38:57] attractive [38:58] thing, but maybe not against an [39:01] ordinance. I didn't know. [39:04] >> Familiar with the property and I believe [39:06] it's being addressed. [39:07] >> Thank you. [39:08] Um, any no additional [39:11] questions? We'll move on to the next. [39:13] Um, thanks Mandy for accommodating this [39:16] uh [39:17] in-depth analysis of your presentation. [39:20] Thank you. [39:21] >> And more to come on this. [39:22] >> Yeah. [39:23] >> Uh the next item under here is to create [39:25] an age inclusive community. And this is [39:28] an example of one of the goals that came [39:30] from becoming an age friendly community. [39:33] And it's you won't see it on our next [39:35] list of goals, but that doesn't mean [39:36] that it's not going to continue. It's [39:38] really become a component of many of our [39:40] programs. Um and so when uh the bike [39:43] pedestrian master plan for example or [39:45] the website refresh was done um a lot of [39:48] those principles and uh contacts in the [39:51] community that helped with the age [39:53] friendly initiative uh were contacted [39:55] and integrated and the youth commission [39:57] uh has really taken this and run with it [40:00] on their tech days. Uh, and so this will [40:02] be something that we'll continue to [40:04] reference and include in our other [40:06] projects, but you won't see it as a [40:08] standalone um project in the proposed [40:10] list for today. Um, but that's not to [40:13] say that it's not happening. [40:16] Uh, the next item is to explore the [40:18] potential property donation of 40 [40:20] Baywood. And so, as you know, this uh [40:22] town voted to accept the property [40:24] contingent upon the property tax issue [40:26] being resolved. Um and so we are moving [40:29] towards that with an executed agreement [40:31] and you'll see this carry over into next [40:33] year with um taking ownership of the [40:36] property and preparing some plans and [40:38] feasibility studies. So this is one that [40:41] will most definitely carry over to the [40:43] proposed list of goals um but reached a [40:45] big milestone um in the 2526 year. [40:50] Uh the next item is to enhance common [40:52] spaces in town. And this is uh providing [40:55] staff support and coordination with our [40:57] wonderful Hillsboro Beautification [40:59] Foundation. And actually at our March [41:01] meeting uh we'll be updating the [41:03] memorandum of understanding that the [41:05] town has to better reflect uh how things [41:08] work. This was something that came out [41:11] of a conversation with HBF leadership [41:13] and they'd been discussing it and um [41:15] have approved the revisions um and [41:18] worked closely with um director of [41:20] public works and city engineer Paul [41:21] Willis um and the city manager's office [41:24] to just make those updates. And so that [41:26] will come for consideration the council [41:27] at the regular March meeting. [41:30] And then the last item was to explore [41:32] the potential of development of a [41:34] walking trail around Crocker Lake. and [41:36] we've done some um background research [41:38] on the past conversations and uh we've [41:42] kind of reached agreement with HBF to [41:43] just continue monitoring the situation [41:46] um passively, but uh that it was sort of [41:49] a mutually agreed upon objective, but we [41:51] again it'll kind of continue being [41:53] monitored. You won't see it as a [41:54] standalone goal or priority. Um but [41:57] staff is aware of this interest and [41:59] we'll incorporate it into future plans [42:01] um as it fits. [42:04] Um before we go forward yes um Vice [42:07] Mayor Ragdale have a question and I also [42:09] have a question. [42:09] >> I was just wondering um with the [42:11] continue monitoring what what are we [42:14] monitoring? [42:17] » Something to add to that? [42:18] >> Yeah. So, um, because I actually put [42:21] this on last year, um, I've had some [42:23] discussions with staff that 40 Baywood [42:26] really has kind of gotten in that lane [42:28] and there's so much work involved with [42:31] bringing up 40 Baywood. And I I think [42:33] that 40 Baywood will provide um, a lot [42:36] of what Crocker Lake would. So, in my [42:39] mind, I think we do 40 Baywood first and [42:41] then Crocker Lake because it's kind of [42:44] um it's a lot of the same work and I [42:46] think it would really it it would be a [42:48] lot to take on both at once. So, we [42:50] still have so much work to do with 40 [42:52] Baywood as far as how we're going to [42:54] administrate it, how we're going to pay [42:55] for it, how how it's going to be open to [42:58] the public, what uses it's going to [42:59] have. So, um I just wanted to speak up [43:02] because it was I put it on last year. I [43:06] feel that it makes sense to really focus [43:09] on 40 Baywood first. [43:12] >> Uh, thanks for that clarification. I [43:14] appreciate that. And also um the [43:17] question I have about the Crocco Lake um [43:19] walking trail, which sounds like it [43:21] could be a fantastic experience. [43:23] However, um we are obligated if it [43:26] becomes a walking trail. I I need to [43:28] know from a legal standpoint, are we [43:30] obligated to open it to the entire [43:32] community beyond Hillsboro? Yes, that's [43:35] we would be required to open it beyond [43:37] just town residents. [43:38] >> Yes, that's what that was my [43:40] understanding. I just wanted to clarify [43:41] that and Vice Mayor Ragsdale have a [43:43] follow-up. Oh, [43:44] >> I I appreciate the clarification. I [43:45] understand. Uh just wanted to check just [43:47] what what are we monitoring? [43:50] There's um in the language of the deed, [43:52] we're just moni we just there's some uh [43:54] timing around that, but we also need to [43:56] have some discussions with our um public [43:59] works department regarding vegetation [44:01] management in that area with CCFD um on [44:03] the vegetation management as well and [44:05] the concerns with the water as well as [44:07] our um risk management uh insurance pool [44:10] of what that would take in terms of the [44:12] town. So, it's a lot of different [44:14] stakeholders that we would need to to [44:17] bring together and really move forward. [44:19] So, at this point, we're prioritizing [44:22] the 40 Baywood work because a lot of the [44:24] insurance questions will be done at 40 [44:26] Baywood and hopefully we have a model [44:28] that we can translate over to a walking [44:30] trail um should we get uh should we move [44:33] on to that as the next priority. [44:37] » Thank you. [44:38] >> And just one follow up on that. If we [44:40] were to revisit that in terms of ongoing [44:42] research and execution of the trail, [44:45] again, the issue of fire mitigation in [44:48] that very enclosed corridor, I'm sure [44:50] remains paramount. So, we'll need to [44:52] address that and make sure that that's [44:53] part of the plan going forward. [44:55] >> Definitely. [44:57] >> Um, yes, by uh council member Trunk. So [45:00] um I want to ask a questions regarding [45:02] creating the age inclusive um community [45:06] and um I do appreciate I think that you [45:09] know um there was a uh an estimate of [45:14] over uh close to 90% of uh you know the [45:19] um residents uh in the county that are [45:23] really uh aging in place and and you [45:26] know um approaching uh to the um the [45:30] aging [45:32] uh group shall we say. Uh my my question [45:35] is regarding the uh imple you know um [45:38] the applications or the creating the uh [45:41] age friendly um uh community is that u [45:46] about the mobility and and I would urge [45:49] that our res uh our staff look into the [45:52] autonomous cars. you know, it it's here [45:54] to stay. Um and obviously there's a lot [45:57] of attractions um on the rider side of the the interest and also um to the [46:03] SAM transport uh you know uh in terms of [46:06] uh the shuttles because as we increase [46:09] the ADU the infrastructures of our town [46:12] is going to change the dynamics and so [46:15] to relieve the congestions. I think [46:17] those are um areas that may we we may [46:20] want to look into to to come ahead of [46:22] time as to what are the plans for these [46:27] type of um mobility uh for our seniors [46:32] in town. Um I think that that is going [46:34] to be uh paramount uh in terms of all [46:37] the activities that we want to uh [46:39] include or provide the services. [46:43] >> Um I have a question for council member [46:46] Chuang. Um is that does SAM trans have a [46:50] formula in terms of when and how to [46:52] determine to actually provide [46:55] transportation within a community? Is it [46:57] based on how many people are registered [46:58] to I mean what what is the criteria for [47:01] that? [47:03] >> Right. Samsung really is about buses and the shuttles and and the ready [47:09] wheels and I think uh in those space um [47:13] you know uh they primarily focus on the [47:15] underserved. However, uh for the last [47:18] five or six years when we start talking [47:21] about the impact of the housing and the [47:24] densities of those housing units, um I [47:28] think that part of the that equation is [47:30] trying to relieve the traffic uh by [47:33] having uh less cars, right? And to that [47:37] extent I think that people are looking [47:39] into autonomous cars as one of the [47:41] solutions so that you can get out of the [47:43] car but you are hopping into another car [47:46] right um and then for um uh the transit [47:50] there are ready wheels sort of on demand [47:52] shuttles that while currently there are [47:55] pilot programs for the underserved [47:58] communities uh in uh north fairy oaks [48:01] and also in Halfoon Bay there are [48:04] opportunities I think for the cities to [48:07] talk to them about what are the models [48:10] that we can come up with that is going [48:12] to serve our uh communities so that our [48:15] seniors um will get out of the car and [48:19] be able to take those options as you [48:21] know viable options and availabilities [48:24] to to be able to go to their doctor's [48:26] appointment, grocery shopping or field [48:29] trip you know with friends. [48:32] >> Thank you. [48:35] Um, Council Member Adams, [48:36] >> uh, just an add-on to that, I think we [48:38] also ought to include the Youth [48:40] Commission in that conversation to [48:42] provide more alternatives for their [48:44] transportation besides just ebikes to [48:48] get places and not to label it as the [48:50] old people's bus, but to look at [48:54] shuttles that could take all of our [48:56] population, young mothers with children, [48:59] all kinds of people that are really [49:02] stuck. So, I think I think it's a great [49:06] suggestion and I think it should be one [49:08] of our priorities to develop maybe some [49:11] relationships with autonomous cars, make [49:13] sure that we are permitting them and so [49:16] forth. Thank you. [49:17] >> Thank you. Um, Vice Mayor Ragsdale, [49:20] >> um, I I love all of this discussion. Uh [49:23] just um one other thing that we do have [49:26] um through Peninsula Family Service, [49:27] there is Got Wheels, which is just an [49:29] individual car, so it doesn't [49:31] necessarily um take cards off the road, [49:33] but for people that need it for and that [49:36] is for older um older people. Uh but [49:40] it's for $5. It'll take you anywhere. [49:42] And it does seem like in conjunction [49:44] with 40 Baywood, it would be great to [49:46] have this discussion if we could have a, [49:49] you know, shuttle to pick people up or [49:52] remind them about gut gutw wheels, um, [49:54] etc. And we do have commute.org, but [49:56] that that's really for commuting to [49:59] work. [50:00] >> Okay. Thank you. Yes. Um, [50:04] Miss Brown, you miss Thank you. I [50:05] believe this topic came up last year and [50:07] so we did do some preliminary research [50:09] with some other cities that have [50:10] implemented uh city sponsored shuttle [50:13] services in partnership with private [50:15] companies. So um we can revisit that [50:17] research and open those conversations [50:19] again. [50:20] >> Thank you. [50:23] >> Um moving on, the next goal is improve [50:25] town infrastructure and I will turn this [50:27] over to our uh director of public works [50:29] and city engineer Paul Willis. [50:31] >> Hello again. Uh thank you for the [50:33] opportunity to present the public works [50:35] department and what we're working on. As [50:36] you know, about half of the town's [50:38] budget is spent through public works, [50:40] whether through one of the enterprise [50:41] funds or through our general fund. Um [50:44] but going through our list, you some of [50:46] you may have had the opportunity to tour [50:48] the Daryl Tank site. The Daryl Tank site [50:51] is the largest water tank and piece of [50:54] infrastructure within the town's uh [50:56] system. It is a 2 milliongal [51:00] concrete tank that's capable of [51:02] withstanding a 8.0 earthquake. And the [51:05] reason why this is significant, this [51:07] project and all of our other projects in [51:09] the next 5 years are really built to um [51:13] work in conjunction with the future [51:15] Highline project. And the goal is uh [51:18] this is the highest point of [51:19] distribution in the town. It allows us [51:21] to transfer water to all of our other [51:24] tanks, whether they're mid-level or the [51:26] lower level. And in the near future, [51:29] when the Highline comes into play and is [51:32] fully operational, we will have [51:34] mid-level tanks that are not going to be [51:37] needed any longer, that are much smaller [51:40] that we'll be able to abandon, remove, [51:43] and uh maybe even sell those properties [51:45] if that's the council's goal, or turn [51:46] them into parks or or whatever else you [51:48] need. But uh this uh Daryl tank is the [51:51] first piece to make all of that [51:53] feasible. And again, it supports our [51:56] future goal of being both seismic and [52:00] wildfire resilient because of its [52:02] location. Again, it's a much larger tank [52:04] than was there before and increases our [52:06] capacity and our resilience. [52:10] Um the next project you've heard is the Highline Water Project. the Highline [52:14] Water project, we were previously [52:16] awarded a brick grant and then with the [52:18] change administration, it was potenti it [52:21] was put on hold and then we heard before [52:23] last holiday that uh it's back on. So [52:27] other than the news that it's back in [52:30] operation and the the brick grant will [52:32] be coming, we have still haven't gotten [52:34] the magical piece of paper that's sent [52:36] to us from FEMA that says here here's [52:38] your money. uh but with the uh [52:40] assistance of Mandy and our consultant, [52:42] we've gone forward with the uh HMA grant [52:45] or HMGP I think is the formal name and [52:48] that is another source of funding. We're [52:50] looking forward to uh continuing that [52:53] process. You've probably also heard that HMGP grant or when you saw the the [52:59] approval for that last month, the the [53:01] dollar figure did go up and that's due [53:04] to a couple factors. number one time [53:06] it's delayed a year and a half and [53:08] number two when we looked at the details [53:11] the HMGP or HMA grant had about 11% [53:16] increase due to tariffs so now the [53:19] tariffs may be deemed not uh correct [53:22] we'll see if that affects our overall [53:24] costs because it's such a big project [53:26] but uh we we on when we apply for these [53:29] grants we ask for the best case scenario [53:33] because you can't go back and ask for [53:35] more and then uh we hope that we're [53:37] fully approved. Then if we don't use it [53:38] all then we don't have to go back to the [53:41] other partners whether it's Milbury [53:43] Berlingame for additional funds. So [53:45] that's the case on the Highland water [53:47] project. Uh street resurfacing projects. [53:50] We're very proud of our streets as you [53:52] know we have the highest PCI pavement [53:54] condition index in the whole peninsula [53:57] and uh we want to keep it that way and [53:59] we we achieve those goals uh by [54:02] leveraging grants. We also achieve them [54:04] uh by being smart coordinating with [54:07] utilities and having moratoriums on [54:09] streets. So if we spend millions of [54:11] dollars on a project uh we don't cut [54:14] them and the utilities don't cut them [54:16] for period of between two to five years. [54:18] So we preserve them and we do this by [54:21] sending out coordination letters in [54:22] advance to the utilities so they know [54:24] and companies like PG in the past have [54:27] actually uh moved up projects or delayed [54:30] projects so they don't affect these [54:32] streets. Uh but we also receive a major [54:35] part of our funding through our building [54:38] uh permits that go through because when [54:40] a contractor does significant work and [54:42] damages a roadway, they pay their fair [54:44] share to replace or fix the roadway on [54:47] behalf of the entire public. We have a [54:49] dedicated fee and Tim's group just does [54:52] an incredible job collecting that. The [54:53] more successful we are in uh issuing [54:56] permits, the more funds are available to [54:58] the public to fix the roadways. So [55:01] that's uh just a really key part. Uh [55:03] next item number four, bike and ped [55:05] master plan. We had received grants last [55:08] year for the bike ped master plan. You [55:10] maybe are participated in in the [55:13] surveys. Uh we worked with the schools. [55:15] We worked with the local bike ped [55:17] groups, our representatives, and we had [55:19] a really good plan that's in place. Uh [55:21] we continue to identify upcoming project [55:24] improvements and priorities. I've spoke [55:26] to our commissioner about the next one [55:27] that we hope to to put in the books and [55:30] we're talking to our designers about [55:31] that. We don't have any money for it [55:33] yet, but there's a plan. So, we hope [55:36] that it'll be funded just like the last [55:37] one. And, uh, the eucalyptus pathway, as [55:40] you remember, when we did get the [55:42] funding. Uh, every time I drive by [55:44] there, there's always at least three or [55:46] four people enjoying that. such a a nice [55:48] piece to our community and we want to [55:50] keep adding to that to provide a safe [55:52] way to the schools, but also an option [55:54] for mobility for just anyone that wants [55:57] to enjoy the outdoors and and do it in a [55:59] safe protected area, not in the roadway. [56:03] And then finally, uh establishment of [56:06] utility underground districts. Uh this [56:08] is something that uh we've been working [56:09] on with our commissioner. uh public [56:11] works right now is very just been [56:14] supportive of reviewing the documents or [56:16] providing GIS information uh so that way [56:18] we know precisely where those [56:20] opportunities uh lie. So I think that's [56:23] my summary. I did want to mention that [56:25] none of this would be possible if we [56:27] didn't have dedicated members of our [56:29] staff. So Sarah Bachmann who you met is [56:31] here behind me. She's our senior [56:32] analyst. So, she knows everything from [56:36] valves to tools to every bit and part [56:39] that we spend in public works. And then, [56:42] of course, without further uh I don't [56:44] have to do any more introduction, [56:46] there's Natalie Griman, our deputy [56:47] director, who handles all of our capital [56:49] projects, our designers, and upcoming [56:51] future uh planning for the CIP. [56:58] » Um, thank you Paul for that [56:59] presentation. I do have a couple of [57:01] questions but I will defer to my [57:02] colleagues first. Um Vice Mayor Rexdale [57:07] I [57:07] >> think it it's okay to give comments and [57:09] opinions right in this yes yes [57:11] discussion [57:12] >> um uh just such a fantastic pivot for [57:16] the highline funding. Uh congratulations [57:19] to all of you and wherever it ends up [57:22] coming from just um that pivot was um [57:25] just remarkable and thank you. Um, and [57:28] uh, I think I mentioned this before, but [57:30] with regard to the repaving, our street [57:33] was repaved and just handled so [57:35] perfectly, the communication and um, I [57:38] have a little pun, but it was a very [57:41] smooth process. So, um, I just really [57:44] um, appreciate that as as a resident. [57:46] Um, and then just a thought popped into [57:49] my head when you talked about um, [57:51] decommissioning some midlevel um, water [57:54] storage. when you said the word park, of [57:57] course, I thought dog park. So, um, just [58:00] something to keep in mind. Thank you. [58:03] >> Thank you for that. And I just want to [58:05] comment on on the paving of your street. [58:07] Uh, council members do not know when [58:09] streets are paved. We never tell you the [58:11] names because that way when you come [58:12] here, you can vote on them and know that [58:14] you are not biased. So, we pave the [58:17] worst first. [58:19] >> Thank you. [58:20] >> My street is heavily used. Thank you. [58:23] Um, Council Member Adams, [58:26] >> thank you. This will just be a quick [58:28] compliment to everyone at public works. [58:31] Uh, you when you come against the rock [58:35] in the road, [58:37] you figure out a way to go around. And, [58:40] uh, I think that kind of spirit is [58:43] reflected in our Highline project, a [58:47] great project that you designed. And we [58:50] will eventually get that done. I'm [58:52] absolutely certain of it and we're very [58:54] proud of having the highest rated uh [58:57] streets in San Monteo County and that [59:00] doesn't come without your effort. Um and [59:04] also the undergrounding of utilities has [59:08] been quite a wonderful project that was [59:11] worked on extensively by our assistant [59:14] city manager and I wanted to make sure [59:16] we reflected that it's a very complex [59:19] concept. [59:21] uh and I think we will be having uh some [59:25] more information for the council and for [59:29] the citizens soon. Uh so I wanted people [59:32] to know that that was coming. But this [59:34] also reflects back with our relationship [59:37] with PG&E that we talked about earlier. [59:39] I think working on our relationship with [59:43] PG& not just in looking in alternatives [59:46] but also looking at how we can make that [59:48] better at all times in all ways for all [59:52] parties is something that is a good goal [59:56] for us to have. It matters uh just about [1:00:00] daily. So thank you for everything that [1:00:03] department has done and great [1:00:05] accomplishments this past year. [1:00:08] Um, I have a follow-up question. Council [1:00:11] member Chong, do you have a question as [1:00:12] well or comment? [1:00:17] » It It's not not related. [1:00:18] >> Okay, it's not related. Thank you. Um, [1:00:21] so just quick questions. Um, I certainly [1:00:24] want to um thank the staff for your um [1:00:28] advanced thinking on the funding. Darot [1:00:31] Tank is a great examples. you know, [1:00:34] we're looking forward to the Highline [1:00:36] project, but really Dereotank is [1:00:38] instrumental because you look ahead, you [1:00:40] figure out the the plans and we were [1:00:42] able to get it done before all these [1:00:44] funding issues to be of issues, right? [1:00:47] So, I I commend you for that. Um, I also [1:00:51] want to say um about the PCI is such a [1:00:55] bragging rights among the counties. [1:00:57] We're at 82. Um, and I have to say many [1:01:02] cities that I work with regionalwise um [1:01:04] are looking into measure A um and the [1:01:08] county for the funding and um so for you [1:01:12] to be able to lead the way and then [1:01:14] figure out um in in advance where the [1:01:18] PCI rating was going to be and how we're [1:01:21] going to you know have a systematic way [1:01:23] of paving the roads are critical and we [1:01:26] the residents are enjoying it. Uh so [1:01:28] really thank you for that. Um also I [1:01:31] want to say that you know the the the [1:01:34] bike and pedestrian master plan continue [1:01:37] to be a issues. I mean I I understand [1:01:40] that there is interest in terms of [1:01:43] everyone wants in the ideal way to have [1:01:46] the pedestrians the bike the the the [1:01:49] vehicles all on the roads but the [1:01:51] reality is speed is an issue. So I think [1:01:53] that you know that would be something [1:01:55] that we'll have to work closely with the [1:01:57] PG on [1:01:59] uh the speed um so that if everyone [1:02:03] slowed down that will likely to have the [1:02:07] sort of a scenic weight of having the [1:02:10] vehicles the pedestrians and the um the cyclists all enjoy the roads. But [1:02:16] until then I think that there's uh you [1:02:19] know mindset and outreach and [1:02:21] reinforcement. I think that we all have [1:02:23] to kind of bring together uh into the [1:02:26] fold to make that happen. So, thank you. [1:02:30] >> Thank you. Um just to follow up, thanks [1:02:33] again for the presentation and thanks [1:02:34] for all the work you do at public works. [1:02:36] The residents love you guys. So do we. [1:02:39] Um well, we love all of you guys [1:02:41] actually. You kind of want to see. [1:02:46] Um but anyways regarding the permits and [1:02:50] the costs or sort of the reimbursement [1:02:53] that would come towards perhaps um [1:02:55] repair or maintenance of our right of [1:02:57] way. Um I is sort of when you stated [1:03:00] that I thought so clearly as we issue [1:03:04] more permits for let's say multif family [1:03:06] housing going forward it will also [1:03:09] generate additional funding that could [1:03:11] go towards maintaining our right of way. [1:03:13] Is that is that an accurate assessment? [1:03:16] Exactly correct. And the intent was that [1:03:18] because uh about 13 years ago when I [1:03:21] first started, one of the major [1:03:22] complaints was on a particular street [1:03:24] was the damage to the roadway was always [1:03:26] done by the contractor with their heavy [1:03:28] equipment and the gouging of the [1:03:30] roadways. So now they're paying their [1:03:32] fair share according to how big their [1:03:34] frontage is or how much uh work they're [1:03:37] doing. And then that goes into our [1:03:39] deposit account that we track every [1:03:41] year. And it helps pave not just that [1:03:43] roadway, but the roadway for all because [1:03:45] remember the construction vehicle [1:03:46] doesn't just go to that home. It travels [1:03:48] all the way to get to the plant or the [1:03:51] dump or wherever else they're going. [1:03:53] >> Yeah. I I just think that's an important [1:03:55] point um because going forward, whether [1:03:58] it's the next two, five, 10 years, there [1:04:01] will be increased construction um within [1:04:04] the town. and um just reminding our [1:04:07] residents that that would eventually [1:04:09] once those permits are should bring back [1:04:11] revenues that could be that will be used [1:04:13] to maintaining the roads and the [1:04:15] infrastructure. So, thanks for pointing [1:04:16] that out. Appreciate that. Um I don't [1:04:19] I'm sorry. Um go ahead. Um Council [1:04:21] Member Adams. Yes. [1:04:23] >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. This kind of [1:04:25] ties into the next uh slide as well, but [1:04:28] when we talk about 25 miles per hour in [1:04:31] Hillsboro, [1:04:32] um I would encourage us to also wear [1:04:36] that as a flag that we really will [1:04:40] enforce a slower speed than what we have [1:04:43] right now and um gives people time to [1:04:46] look at the beautiful roads, highest [1:04:49] rated in San Monteo. But as council [1:04:52] member Schwang points out, this would [1:04:54] make everybody safer and we are trying [1:04:57] to do so much on that. So it isn't [1:05:00] necessarily a public works problem, but [1:05:02] it segus into the next section. [1:05:06] >> Um, were you suggesting that we consider [1:05:08] lowering our speed limit below 25 miles [1:05:11] an hour? I wasn't clear on that. [1:05:12] >> No, I I'm not sure it's 25 miles an hour [1:05:15] everywhere, but it's pretty close. I [1:05:18] don't know. [1:05:19] Yeah, it's 25 miles everywhere in town [1:05:22] except for a couple streets and I think [1:05:24] one is Black Mountain and the other is [1:05:26] Crystal Springs, but everywhere else is [1:05:29] 25 miles hour. [1:05:31] >> So, your suggestion is that we enforce [1:05:33] the 25 miles hour or were you suggesting [1:05:36] something slower than 25 miles hour? [1:05:38] >> No, I suggest that we have a [1:05:40] conversation about what we want, but at [1:05:43] least that we enforce what we already [1:05:46] have. [1:05:46] >> Oh, okay. Yeah, got you. Thank you. All [1:05:49] right, so we can move forward with the [1:05:51] next presentation. [1:05:55] » Thank you. And we wouldn't be able to [1:05:57] pay for all those wonderful projects [1:05:59] without our diligent and dedicated [1:06:02] finance team. So, I'll turn it over to [1:06:04] finance director Jan Cook to discuss the [1:06:05] slide. [1:06:07] >> Good morning. [1:06:09] First, I'd like to introduce the team [1:06:10] from finance that's here. We have Rich [1:06:12] Santiago, assistant finance director. [1:06:15] And then we also have Gigi Ing, who is [1:06:18] our budget analyst. So, she's the one [1:06:21] that prepares the book and helps with [1:06:23] the presentation and gets all the nuts [1:06:25] and bolts together for our budget. So, [1:06:28] um, so there's two goals here, uh, both [1:06:31] kind of long-term looking. Uh, the first [1:06:33] one is something that the city council [1:06:35] studied late this fall. It's the long [1:06:38] range financial funding plan and that [1:06:41] really has had two aspects to it. One is [1:06:44] looking kind of more internally at what [1:06:46] we can do to leverage our current [1:06:48] operations to provide additional savings [1:06:51] or revenue uh which is translating [1:06:54] primarily into the second one you see [1:06:57] there on the first number one which is [1:07:00] uh the building and planning uh fee [1:07:03] review which is well underway. And then [1:07:06] the second thing is to really look at [1:07:09] our operational [1:07:11] efficiency from our budgetary [1:07:14] perspective and also looking at what our [1:07:16] long-term needs are uh from a capital [1:07:19] basis. And with that study, what was [1:07:22] recommended and uh city council brought [1:07:26] forward for staff to to continue on was [1:07:29] to looking into a feasibility for a tax [1:07:32] measure. And so we are well on on our [1:07:34] way in reviewing that with uh [1:07:37] consultants and that um process will be [1:07:41] unfolding um over the next couple of [1:07:43] months. [1:07:46] The second one is the water and sewer [1:07:49] rate studies. Uh the city council will [1:07:52] be considering [1:07:54] uh issuing a Proposition 218 notice for [1:07:57] both the water five-year rate series as [1:08:00] well as the sewer rate series. And those [1:08:03] um will be coming forward uh primarily [1:08:06] in the next few months as well. But [1:08:09] they'll be implemented starting in the [1:08:12] sometime in 2627. [1:08:15] With that, I'd be happy to answer any [1:08:17] questions that you have. [1:08:21] Um, any question from the any questions [1:08:23] from the um council? [1:08:26] >> Yes, council member Adams. [1:08:28] >> Sorry, I I skipped over your slides for [1:08:30] the next one, but this is a question for [1:08:32] you. Uh, first of all, I want to just [1:08:35] compliment all the work that you and [1:08:36] your staff do and your reputation around [1:08:40] the county when I talk to other cities [1:08:42] is not just impeccable but admirable. [1:08:46] So, thank you. Uh the SFPUC did announce [1:08:51] its rates [1:08:53] uh this past week and I wanted to know [1:08:57] if in our discussion that will be [1:08:59] happening uh at our next council meeting [1:09:02] will reflect the actual uh rate rather [1:09:06] than the projection. [1:09:08] Yes, those that information has been [1:09:10] provided to us and we will be [1:09:12] incorporating that into the the water [1:09:15] rate study projections. Yes. [1:09:20] >> Yes. by Sam Rex. [1:09:23] >> I just want to say that it may look like [1:09:26] only two goals, but you guys do so much [1:09:30] work and so much is put on your [1:09:32] department and it's amazing how small [1:09:34] and efficient and amazing your [1:09:36] department is and you also are doing the [1:09:39] CCFD work and that's also having a [1:09:42] changeover of systems. So, um, thank [1:09:45] you. [1:09:47] >> Any additional questions from the [1:09:48] council? I just have one followup [1:09:50] regarding um I echo what my colleagues [1:09:53] just stated. Thanks for all the work you [1:09:54] do. Of course, without the work you do, [1:09:57] we couldn't get anything done. So um [1:10:01] specifically as we conduct long-term [1:10:03] financial analysis, are we um does that [1:10:06] incorporate um reimbursements for [1:10:09] services that are being provided by Town [1:10:11] of Hillsboro to um let's say CCFD or [1:10:14] other JPA services that we may provide? [1:10:17] Does that include it? [1:10:19] Yes, there is. So, uh, one of the [1:10:21] recommendations was to look at what [1:10:24] we're charging CCFD for finance [1:10:26] services. So, that is another piece of [1:10:28] that. And then, uh, the other piece [1:10:31] which is incorporated into a consulting [1:10:35] uh, project that CCFD is underway on is [1:10:39] looking at um, CCFD as a as a district [1:10:43] or different structures. uh um and [1:10:47] within that one of the actions would be [1:10:51] in that analysis to look at uh cost [1:10:54] sharing formula and whether that should [1:10:56] be adjusted based on you know current [1:11:00] operational services that are provided [1:11:03] to the three cities. [1:11:05] >> Okay, thank you. [1:11:08] Okay, no additional questions on that. [1:11:10] Um we can [1:11:12] >> um yes [1:11:14] >> I I just want to add a comments that you [1:11:15] know uh the share services is is [1:11:18] critical to any kind of a JPA and [1:11:21] anytime that we're looking at it uh it [1:11:23] is critical that we actually reflect uh [1:11:27] the services that we provide and that is [1:11:30] a ongoing process and I you know I'm [1:11:32] very grateful that you are on it. Um I [1:11:35] also think that um periodically the the [1:11:38] town will review on the staff hourly [1:11:41] rates and that is ex exactly reflecting [1:11:43] of the services that we are charging [1:11:46] whether it was to the permit fees or to [1:11:49] the share services that we provided for [1:11:52] uh CCFD and other agencies. Um because [1:11:56] we're an public agency and we're not in [1:12:00] this to make money. we're really [1:12:02] reflecting the staff hours for providing [1:12:05] the services to make you know uh [1:12:08] evaluations or or project uh permits [1:12:11] process or or something like that. So I just want to make that clear and thank [1:12:16] you for your excellent work. [1:12:18] >> Thank you. Okay, we may proceed to the [1:12:21] next presentation. Thank you. [1:12:23] >> Next item uh will be presented by Chief [1:12:26] Kola. [1:12:28] >> Good morning. I wanted to give an update [1:12:31] on our drone as first responder. Uh we [1:12:34] went live with that in October and since [1:12:38] then we've learned a few lessons um that [1:12:41] we're we're working with with Brink. Uh [1:12:44] one is the battery life uh doesn't last [1:12:47] as long as we thought it was. So it's [1:12:49] been in uh been sent back for repair uh [1:12:54] at least one time. Um, we also are [1:12:59] interested in probably researching [1:13:02] different uh areas where we could put [1:13:05] additional pods. That way we have [1:13:07] coverage longer throughout town. [1:13:10] Uh, the next steps we have with our [1:13:14] drone program is we're going to uh [1:13:18] ask more officers uh to become drone [1:13:22] pilots. And we're also uh re uh [1:13:25] releasing that to our uh reserve [1:13:29] officers to get them trained to see if [1:13:31] uh they'll be willing to fly. [1:13:35] The next part uh for the statewide uh [1:13:39] nextgen 911 is a cloud-based system that [1:13:43] we were going to go to. Unfortunately, [1:13:45] there's been some delays with DOJ and uh [1:13:49] the state of California. they're not on [1:13:51] the same page. And so we're all set on [1:13:54] our end, but we're waiting for the state [1:13:57] and DOJ to come together with [1:14:00] standardized laws. [1:14:04] This coming uh council meeting in March, [1:14:07] we will be presenting to council on [1:14:10] consent uh handheld uh radios for our [1:14:15] department. Our radios are 20 years old [1:14:18] and they are in dire need of [1:14:21] replacement. So, uh the recommendation [1:14:25] from staff is that we do the Motorola [1:14:29] LTE radios which will allow us to have [1:14:33] better reception throughout town in [1:14:35] areas where our network doesn't reach. [1:14:38] Uh this also will allow our handhelds to [1:14:42] be taken out of the area and still have [1:14:45] remote access to the town. So we're [1:14:47] really looking forward to this [1:14:49] opportunity [1:14:51] and uh new procurement. We are also [1:14:55] bringing in March uh staff report for [1:14:59] individual uh issued rifles and uh that [1:15:03] will allow each officer to have uh [1:15:07] standardized operating practices [1:15:10] and it will also uh maintain it almost [1:15:15] like handguns. You know, we don't issue [1:15:18] uh officers [1:15:20] uh rotating handguns. They each have [1:15:23] their own uh they each have their own [1:15:26] handguns. And so we'll our idea is that [1:15:29] everyone has a standardized operating [1:15:32] procedure. And so that is coming to you [1:15:35] in in March. Um as for the [1:15:39] departmentwide safety upgrades, uh we [1:15:42] have uh secured the exterior of our our [1:15:47] police department. We've also [1:15:49] implemented several CA uh cameras and a [1:15:53] new locking system throughout our [1:15:56] facilities. Uh the next step for us is [1:16:00] we're researching uh uh I'm sorry uh [1:16:05] testing verata cameras. their mobile [1:16:08] cameras that we're using and we can [1:16:11] deploy those in uh different scenarios [1:16:15] such as the Memorial Day parade or uh [1:16:18] the concourse or different events [1:16:20] throughout town and some mobile unit [1:16:22] that we're in the testing process for. [1:16:26] Uh step two, our generator replacement. [1:16:29] Our generator is over 30 years old and [1:16:32] so we're in the process of uh getting [1:16:35] that replaced. Unlike uh sim I'm sorry, [1:16:39] similar to a vehicle, the generator is [1:16:43] going to need to be built. And so once [1:16:46] we have all of our [1:16:49] permits in order, which is our next [1:16:51] steps, is to obtain the construction [1:16:54] permits as well as the public notices. [1:16:58] We have a school that's within 1,000 ft. [1:17:01] even though it's in Berling game, we [1:17:03] will need to set out notices to let them [1:17:06] know that we are replacing the [1:17:08] generator. So that is one of our next [1:17:11] steps. And uh number three, uh ongoing [1:17:15] recruitment and retention. We are having [1:17:19] interesting time finding qualified [1:17:21] officers who want to become police [1:17:23] officers. So, uh, my staff has roundtled [1:17:28] some different ideas as to how we can [1:17:30] get qualified candidates and possibly [1:17:33] laterals enticed to come over to our [1:17:36] department. And one of those re one of [1:17:38] those uh ideas we had was to go to the [1:17:42] Traverse Air Force Base, which they were [1:17:45] scheduled to do today, but had to uh [1:17:48] postpone. Um, but they plan on going in [1:17:51] a couple weeks down to the Air Force [1:17:53] base when they have a career day. That [1:17:56] way they can set up a booth and, you [1:17:59] know, entice officers to come, military [1:18:02] personnel to come and work for our town. [1:18:06] And then we have our annual wellness [1:18:08] checks. Those are scheduled for the end [1:18:11] of April. And these are one- on-one [1:18:14] sessions with a a competent counselor [1:18:18] that will uh you know talk through [1:18:21] anything that our officers have. And we [1:18:25] also have increased uh instruments in [1:18:29] our gym facility for their wellness as [1:18:33] well. [1:18:38] » Great. Um thank you for that [1:18:41] presentation. Um, I do have a few [1:18:44] questions, but I will ask my colleagues [1:18:46] to comment. So, ask questions if they [1:18:47] have any. Starting with Council Member [1:18:49] Crow. [1:18:50] >> And Madame Mayor, sorry for [1:18:51] interruption. Just to add a little bit [1:18:52] into that as well. Chief Coochie uh and [1:18:54] his team had an emergency to attend to, [1:18:56] so they're not here, but they are [1:18:57] working closely with the police [1:18:59] department as well in the drone program. [1:19:01] So, we're looking at integrating and [1:19:02] having the drones be able to respond to [1:19:04] the majority of the fire calls that come [1:19:06] in as well. We just want to let you make [1:19:08] you aware of that. [1:19:09] >> Thank you. That's uh u that's a good um [1:19:13] input. I do have questions around that. [1:19:15] So, thanks for clarifying that. [1:19:17] >> Yeah, council member. [1:19:19] >> Thank you. Thank you, Chief. And thank [1:19:20] you everyone for the work this year and [1:19:22] the reports. Um a couple quick questions [1:19:25] for the the camera technology and also [1:19:28] the generator. Hopefully, we will have a [1:19:31] new police department sometime [1:19:34] relatively soon. Will these be things [1:19:36] that can be reusable with new [1:19:38] construction as we're investing in them? [1:19:40] >> Yeah, the generator can absolutely be [1:19:43] moved. Uh they'll need new permits for [1:19:45] it, but it's absolutely something that [1:19:47] we could use in the future building. [1:19:50] >> And the cameras, too. Obviously, we need [1:19:52] them. [1:19:53] >> Yes, cameras, too. [1:19:54] >> Great. Thank you. And then um I'm sure [1:19:57] this is a discussion that will come up [1:19:59] when it comes on the council agenda, but [1:20:01] could you just expand a little bit more [1:20:02] why you think I think what residents are [1:20:05] going to say about the individual rifles [1:20:06] or why why do we need to bring more guns [1:20:09] into Hillsboro? Why how often are these [1:20:13] rifles used and why does each [1:20:16] um officer need their own rifle? [1:20:19] >> Right. [1:20:22] the the rifles aren't used on a daily [1:20:26] basis. They're used on instances where [1:20:29] it's a high stress type of call, [1:20:32] barricaded subject. Um, and so the [1:20:37] rifles allow for longer range and uh [1:20:41] ease of use. Let me let me get my notes. [1:20:51] rifles. The reason why we're going to do [1:20:54] uh [1:20:55] individual rifles is because they're in [1:20:58] they're issued to the same they're [1:21:01] issued the same way duty handguns are [1:21:03] issued [1:21:06] and they won't rotate between shifts and [1:21:11] seek to apply the same standards to the [1:21:13] duty rifles. [1:21:17] Thank you. Um any um Vice Mayor Rexdale, [1:21:23] >> thank you very much. Um I appreciate all [1:21:25] this information and um super excited [1:21:28] about the drone program continuing and uh drone first responder and glad [1:21:33] that we're working with CCFD and also [1:21:36] working out the um intricacies of [1:21:39] batteries etc. Um I had a two uh [1:21:44] questions. Um, one is with regard to the [1:21:46] flock cameras. I know we have a very [1:21:49] detailed privacy policy. Um, I but I [1:21:53] also know that the topic has been in the [1:21:56] news and come before other councils. Um, [1:21:59] I personally am I'm good with our [1:22:02] privacy policy, but I'm wondering if [1:22:04] that's something we can put forward in a [1:22:07] more noticeable way. if um I don't know [1:22:09] if if anyone is getting concerned um [1:22:13] with regard to data sharing which I know [1:22:16] we don't do and um we're not allowed to [1:22:19] do also by state law but I think that [1:22:22] the public may need a reminder of that. [1:22:26] Um and then the the second comment is [1:22:29] with regard to the speed limit just [1:22:31] because we're on that page now. I I I [1:22:33] love that we have the motorcycle officer [1:22:35] and we're working on enforcement and [1:22:37] just [1:22:38] keep that up. And I think it might be 15 [1:22:41] miles per hour near the schools. [1:22:43] Um [1:22:45] I'm not positive on that, but I think [1:22:46] we're allowed to reduce it to 15 miles [1:22:49] per hour at the school near the schools. [1:22:51] To my knowledge, it's 25 miles per hour [1:22:54] is reduced in a residential area. [1:22:57] >> Do you want to? [1:22:58] >> Yeah. and and also relation to the [1:23:01] schools there is a 15 m an hour when children are present [1:23:04] >> when children [1:23:04] >> so you'll see the posted speed limit [1:23:06] which is generally the black and white [1:23:07] speed limit which is primopascious speed [1:23:09] right can't go over 25 but then there's [1:23:11] conditional speed limits and one of [1:23:13] those would be the yellow sign that says [1:23:15] 15 miles an hour when children are [1:23:17] present [1:23:17] >> perfect thank you [1:23:21] >> yes um council member Adams yes [1:23:24] >> thank you madam mayor uh it seems to me [1:23:27] we replaced our rifles last year. [1:23:32] Different rifles. [1:23:33] >> No, those were our handguns that we [1:23:35] replaced. [1:23:37] >> Okay. [1:23:37] >> They were they were our handguns with a [1:23:40] red dot optic for it. [1:23:44] >> Well, I think it's a great idea to have [1:23:45] an individual rifle for an individual. I [1:23:48] think that really makes a lot of sense. [1:23:50] Um, but thank you for that [1:23:52] clarification. [1:23:54] >> Yeah. So I I um I appreciate that [1:23:57] comments on the rifles and and I think [1:23:59] basically the points that I'm taking [1:24:01] from your presentation is again creating [1:24:04] a specified identification in terms of [1:24:07] who the rifle is assigned to regardless [1:24:10] of when it's used. We can trace it to [1:24:13] that specific officer. Is that am I [1:24:15] correct in that assessment? [1:24:17] >> Correct. And it would allow the officer [1:24:19] to train with their own personal rifle. [1:24:21] And that way they'll get used to how it [1:24:24] operates and uh how to clean it and and [1:24:28] all all there is and exactly the sling [1:24:31] will fit exactly to their body [1:24:33] >> for quickness of deployment. [1:24:35] >> Right. And the rifles are are typically [1:24:38] only used in specific um high stress [1:24:42] situations such as hostages or [1:24:44] emergencies etc. when they need long [1:24:46] range. It's not something that an [1:24:48] officer carries around. [1:24:49] >> Correct. [1:24:50] >> On a reg like a hand unlike a handgun. [1:24:52] >> Correct. In specific situations where it [1:24:55] is needed. [1:24:56] >> Okay. [1:24:56] >> But not on a they wouldn't respond to it [1:24:59] on an an alarm call unless [1:25:02] >> it warranted that type of response. [1:25:04] >> And and it will be consistent with the [1:25:07] um standard operating procedure compared [1:25:10] to other um police departments. Is that [1:25:13] correct? [1:25:13] >> Correct. There are other agencies in San [1:25:16] Monteo County like San Bruno and South [1:25:18] San Francisco. They also offer uh issue [1:25:21] uh individual rifles. [1:25:24] >> Thanks for that clarification. And I [1:25:25] think the question um posed by council [1:25:28] member Crowley um and Adams is these are [1:25:31] the questions the residents will be [1:25:32] asking us. So we we just that's why we [1:25:35] asking all these questions so we'll have [1:25:37] more information [1:25:38] >> there. And also um let me finish my [1:25:41] questions regarding the flu camera [1:25:44] security issue. Um I agree with Vice [1:25:46] Mayor Ragsdale that um it would be [1:25:50] important to put out more information [1:25:52] regarding the privacy of information on [1:25:55] that. Several residents have reached out [1:25:56] on the specific issue on flock cameras. [1:25:59] >> Correct. We we have all of our [1:26:01] information publicly available on our [1:26:04] privac uh transparency portal. [1:26:08] >> Okay. and and and that basically [1:26:09] explains to resident in terms of where's [1:26:12] the information stored how are they [1:26:14] reassured that there's privacy around it [1:26:17] because those are the questions I get [1:26:19] from residents. [1:26:20] >> Yes. [1:26:21] >> In light of what's been in the news [1:26:22] recently. [1:26:23] >> Correct. [1:26:23] >> I think it's probably a good idea for us [1:26:25] to consider having a more open [1:26:27] discussion on city in city council in [1:26:29] the sometime in the near future to [1:26:30] address that as well. [1:26:31] >> Certainly. I think as the updates come [1:26:32] out about both the drones and our um [1:26:35] privacy related to the flock cameras [1:26:37] that we can give an update on that. And [1:26:39] one of the just as a talking point, one [1:26:41] of the key things to remember is that we [1:26:42] only our data is only shared between law [1:26:45] enforcement agencies. Uh and that [1:26:47] sharing happens through the Nick Rick, [1:26:49] which is our northern California [1:26:51] regional intelligence center. So that is [1:26:52] our highest level of security that we [1:26:54] have in the nine barrier counties. So, [1:26:56] they're a top secret group that both [1:26:58] works uh mostly with the military and [1:27:00] federal uh FBI, [1:27:03] but none of that information is shared [1:27:05] with any commercial companies. And I [1:27:06] think where we've run into some of the [1:27:08] issues that you may have heard about in [1:27:09] the news is where there's a a kind of an [1:27:12] information sharing that happens between [1:27:15] the the vendor and a private company and [1:27:18] that none of that occurs here within [1:27:19] Hillsboro. and and actually I would say [1:27:22] I don't think there's any agencies in [1:27:23] Sonteo County that share with any [1:27:25] commercial industry. So that really is [1:27:27] the concern. So it's just just as a [1:27:29] talking point I think we need to [1:27:30] reaffirm that at each chance that we [1:27:32] get. So we'll do some messaging on that. [1:27:34] >> Okay, great. Thank you. And um regarding [1:27:38] the drones increasing um utility by [1:27:41] other officers and CCFD um sharing, I [1:27:45] think it's a wonderful idea. I mean, [1:27:47] residents love to know that the drones [1:27:48] can be used to for things like fires, [1:27:52] you know, picking up uh early warning [1:27:54] signs. Um, and you may not have the [1:27:56] answer to this at this point. Neither [1:27:58] does finance. I just wondered, are we [1:28:01] going to be um reimbured for some of [1:28:03] those services um if CCFD uses it since [1:28:06] that's a JPA or is that an issue that's [1:28:08] not been discussed yet or even [1:28:09] entertained at this point? [1:28:12] No, I I believe we're not going to [1:28:14] charge them for any any mutual aid [1:28:17] usage. It would just be like any other [1:28:20] mutual aid that our department offers. [1:28:23] Uh whether it be for the SWAT team or [1:28:27] K9 officer going to another agency, we [1:28:30] wouldn't charge. [1:28:31] >> So, at this point, it's deemed mutual [1:28:34] aid. And in terms of the procurement of [1:28:36] these drones, um, are we as are we [1:28:38] partnering with any of the other JPAs [1:28:40] with regards to CCFD's use? I'm I'm you [1:28:43] know very well I'm on the board of CCFD. [1:28:45] So I'm totally on board with this [1:28:47] concept. I just wanted some more [1:28:49] information on the cost sharing. [1:28:51] >> Yeah, on the funding point at this [1:28:53] point, it would be a a Hillsboro funding [1:28:55] is it would be come from the town and [1:28:57] not from the JPA from the agreement [1:28:59] there. That being said, you know, we are [1:29:01] right now going through a an RFP which [1:29:04] is looking at a couple of different [1:29:05] variations, not only the governance of [1:29:07] CCFD, but also the cost sharing between [1:29:09] the three cities. So, that will be [1:29:11] implemented within that cost sharing [1:29:13] study. So, not that it would be a peruse [1:29:15] type of charge, but it would be an [1:29:17] additional service that Hillsboro has [1:29:18] that maybe the other agencies don't [1:29:20] have. So, it would be taken into [1:29:21] consideration very similar to how we [1:29:23] provide financial services for CCFD as [1:29:26] well. So, it's just another uh aspect of [1:29:29] the, you know, what Hillsboro is putting [1:29:31] into the CCFD compared to the other [1:29:34] cities as well. And I will say in the in [1:29:36] the future, um that we'll probably see [1:29:39] these autonomous drones more as a [1:29:40] countywide roll out and it may be even [1:29:44] it while we're administering our own [1:29:46] right now because it's, you know, [1:29:47] considered one of our newest [1:29:49] technologies that's probably going to [1:29:50] have the greatest impact on public [1:29:52] safety. I think that you'll see that [1:29:54] system go out countywide and it may be [1:29:56] taken over at that point uh by the [1:29:58] county. I have some uh close [1:30:00] associations with the department of [1:30:02] emergency management and a few key [1:30:04] employees there and I know they're [1:30:05] working on that right now. [1:30:07] >> Thank you. That's that's very helpful. [1:30:08] >> That is a goal of um Mr. Caligie as [1:30:11] well. [1:30:12] >> Okay, great. Thanks. That's very [1:30:13] helpful. And one final comment is on [1:30:16] recruitment and first of all all the [1:30:18] work you're doing on wellness and um [1:30:21] health maintenance of our officers. I [1:30:22] think that's wonderful. Thanks for for [1:30:25] doing that um and keeping that as a top [1:30:28] priority. Um with regards to recruitment [1:30:31] um have we or do we have any internship [1:30:35] programs for college students who are [1:30:38] interested in criminal justice as a [1:30:40] major or career? Do we have any pipeline [1:30:42] that we can bring in a college student [1:30:46] or graduate student who may be [1:30:49] interested in this area? Maybe not [1:30:50] necessarily to be specific to be a [1:30:52] police officer but in criminal justice [1:30:54] or to be a police officer. [1:30:56] >> Yeah, we were talking about that in our [1:30:58] brainstorming meeting and we were [1:31:00] talking about going up to CSM and doing [1:31:02] career days doing career days there as [1:31:05] well. Plus, they offer monthly um [1:31:09] host testing for entry level entrance [1:31:12] into the academy where they also have a [1:31:16] separate test for what they call the [1:31:18] WSTB, the work test, work sample test [1:31:21] battery, which is the physical test [1:31:23] involved in um in becoming a law [1:31:27] enforcement officer. and we were going [1:31:30] to set up uh a time when they do those [1:31:35] testings to go there trying to seek [1:31:37] people that are interested in law [1:31:39] enforcement but haven't really gotten [1:31:42] all of the information they need or [1:31:44] where they want to go. So, you know, [1:31:46] kind of get them right before they make [1:31:49] any decisions and be able to educate [1:31:52] them on next steps, etc. [1:31:55] >> Okay. And I'll add to that too that [1:31:57] there also are listed in the job fairs [1:31:59] as well that we have two or three times [1:32:01] a year within the county. Uh that law [1:32:03] enforcement plays a role in that as [1:32:05] well. And statewide in the state of [1:32:06] California, of course, retention and [1:32:08] hiring law enforcement is becoming more [1:32:10] and more difficult. And I think that [1:32:12] you'll see uh post police officer [1:32:14] standardized training uh come out with [1:32:16] some systems like the chief just spoke [1:32:18] about where people can kind of take that [1:32:19] first step into it by taking a test or [1:32:23] seeing what's involved without making a [1:32:25] full commitment. In other words, just [1:32:27] seeing if it might be something for [1:32:28] them. Whereas in the past, if you wanted [1:32:30] to go through that battery of tests, you [1:32:32] would have to apply at an agency, have [1:32:33] your application accepted, and then be tested into that part. So it's [1:32:38] kind of a easier entry for people who [1:32:40] may not be fully committed to it but are [1:32:43] just have an interest in it. It it [1:32:44] allows them to take a look at it. [1:32:47] >> Yeah. I think a lot of um students um [1:32:50] college students or graduate students [1:32:51] who are interested in criminal justice [1:32:52] may not even understand what's on the [1:32:56] front lines. So any opportunity to give [1:32:57] them hands-on experience I think is a [1:32:59] good idea. Yeah. Thank you. And yeah we [1:33:02] may proceed to the next. [1:33:04] >> Oh I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Uh council [1:33:06] member Tron go ahead. Sorry. [1:33:07] >> Thank you through the mayor. Um chief, [1:33:10] appreciate your uh presentation. um [1:33:13] really um and and Chief and I had a [1:33:15] conversation regarding the flot cameras [1:33:17] because it's in the news and I think [1:33:19] that the equivalent that is examples [1:33:22] that we can uh uh describe is you know [1:33:25] how we have the the Microsoft 365 and [1:33:29] William would always you know be on our [1:33:31] tail to say did you guys you know not [1:33:34] you not click on the fish fishing emails [1:33:38] not to do this not to do that and go [1:33:40] through the training And I think that [1:33:42] unfortunately some of the agencies are [1:33:47] uh for the lack of better word not very [1:33:49] diligent about that and I think that [1:33:52] transpired the the sort of the outreach [1:33:55] uh the the breach of uh privacy. Um I [1:33:58] think that is of concern. Um I do think [1:34:01] that uh in conversation with chief and [1:34:04] the captain um and by the way captain uh [1:34:07] captain sher is um a cyber security [1:34:12] expert that has been respected and well [1:34:15] uh recognized in the region. Um I I do [1:34:19] want to um have you guys talk about a [1:34:22] little bit about your audit. uh there is [1:34:25] a uh very uh detailed audit process that [1:34:30] you will be able to make sure that is [1:34:32] ongoing things if if you don't mind [1:34:34] elaborate that a little bit. Correct. We [1:34:37] do a monthly audit where we go in and we [1:34:40] make sure uh all the agencies that we [1:34:44] have agreements with are abiding by our [1:34:46] policy. So uh one by one we'll go [1:34:49] through and we'll check we'll do we'll [1:34:52] also do random audits. One of the um one [1:34:57] of the options when an when an officer [1:35:00] from another agency wants to run a check [1:35:03] for one of our uh for a plate they have [1:35:06] to put down a reason code per our [1:35:10] policy. And the reason code will also [1:35:12] make them state if it's a case number or [1:35:15] basically what type of offense. It makes [1:35:18] them give a reason for looking for that [1:35:20] specific vehicle. And so what we'll do [1:35:24] is we'll do an audit. We'll make sure [1:35:25] that anybody that's running it has the [1:35:28] proper reason for it. If not, then we'll [1:35:31] terminate our agreement with um that [1:35:34] particular agency. We have not have have [1:35:37] had any agency uh use our data in a way [1:35:42] that's not within our policy. [1:35:44] >> Thank you. And I think the flock camera [1:35:47] the intent of the flock cameras is [1:35:49] really focusing on the license plates [1:35:51] and it's not about the drivers or the [1:35:53] make of the cars. And also the other [1:35:55] part of it is that the agency [1:35:58] collectively up and down the state um [1:36:02] are using that as a tool. So, and I [1:36:05] think most recently either San Mattel or [1:36:08] San Francisco has uh done um some kind [1:36:12] of uh public announcement that through [1:36:15] the success and collaboration with the [1:36:17] various agencies and the flock cameras [1:36:20] footage be able to uh make some [1:36:23] significant arrest. [1:36:24] >> Correct. I think it should be noted that [1:36:26] Flock is one of our most important [1:36:28] investigative tools that we have here in [1:36:31] Hillsboro and and and we're very lucky [1:36:35] that council approved us getting this um information this this product. [1:36:42] And so I I think that one of my goals [1:36:46] for next year is to increase the cameras [1:36:48] that we have in town. [1:36:50] uh crime has gone down considerably in [1:36:53] town because of because criminals know [1:36:56] that this technology is available and I [1:37:00] believe that's uh attributed to the low [1:37:04] burglary rates we've had this year. [1:37:07] >> Thank you. And Captain Shane, would you [1:37:09] like uh to talk a little bit about the [1:37:10] dashboards? you know because we have for [1:37:13] the transparency we do have all these [1:37:16] information updated on the our PD's [1:37:19] dashboard. Correct. [1:37:21] >> Correct. That dashboard is available on [1:37:23] the PD section of the town website. It's [1:37:25] the flock transparency portal. It also [1:37:27] has our most up-to-date uh privacy [1:37:30] policy uh for review. That dashboard may [1:37:33] seem limited in that it's it's typically [1:37:35] one page, but it outlines every agency [1:37:38] that we have an open agreement with. Um, [1:37:40] and to my knowledge, they're all state [1:37:42] and below. We don't share with any of [1:37:43] our federal partners, uh, if that was a [1:37:45] concern for anybody, uh, listening. And [1:37:48] it also, um, tracks our monthly usage [1:37:51] for vehicles run, um, by our officers, [1:37:54] as well as, um, how many plates were [1:37:57] collected in a a one-month period. I [1:37:59] believe you can go back and look at the [1:38:00] archival data if you want to go back and [1:38:02] see what January looked like of 2026 [1:38:04] comparatively to 2025, assuming uh, that [1:38:08] data is available. [1:38:10] Thank you. Um and last questions that I [1:38:12] have is regarding the the drone the [1:38:15] batteries that you talk about. Um I do [1:38:17] believe that we have contract with [1:38:19] Brinks that they are on task in terms of [1:38:24] replacement in terms of parts and [1:38:27] upgrades [1:38:28] that that part is not at our expense but [1:38:32] they would look into it and be able to [1:38:33] repair them. Right, Chief? [1:38:35] >> Yes, that's correct. So, we uh returned [1:38:39] one of our drones, the one that's in the [1:38:41] back of the PD. We returned that and [1:38:43] it's uh expected to come back next week. [1:38:48] And and I also uh want to uh you know I [1:38:52] do believe that we have some public you [1:38:54] know listening in on um the fact that [1:38:56] when we are select making the selection [1:38:58] or the PD is making the selection one of [1:39:01] the criteria is to make sure that the [1:39:02] privacy issue is critical that the [1:39:05] manufacturer is the integrity of the [1:39:08] manufacturer is solid in terms of [1:39:11] replacing parts in terms of the [1:39:12] information collections and so forth. [1:39:16] Correct. Uh the replacement turn [1:39:18] turnaround time is fairly quickly uh [1:39:22] considering the [1:39:25] change it needed to have. Thank you [1:39:28] chief. [1:39:28] >> Thank you. All right. Thank you. We will [1:39:31] now proceed to the next presentation. [1:39:33] Thank you. [1:39:36] » Lee. This slide will be presented by [1:39:38] assistant director of building and [1:39:39] planning Liz Reese. [1:39:45] » All right. Our um first of the tier 2 [1:39:48] priorities is the safety element update [1:39:52] and in looking at uh updated [1:39:55] requirements associated with SB 739 I'm [1:39:58] sorry dyslexia 379 [1:40:02] um that requires that climate adaptation [1:40:06] is a component of the safety element. So [1:40:09] in looking at those requirements and [1:40:11] evaluating current and best practices as [1:40:14] it relates to climate planning and [1:40:16] wildfire responsiveness, [1:40:18] we identified that the best approach uh [1:40:20] to addressing our safety element as well [1:40:22] as um our second goal which is a [1:40:25] comprehensive update would be to do a [1:40:28] tiered approach, a two-phased approach. [1:40:30] So the first phase would be a climate [1:40:33] and hazard vulnerability assessment and [1:40:35] that would be a really technical [1:40:37] analysis of the town's um exposure and [1:40:41] vulnerability in terms of wildfire [1:40:42] evacuation and climate risk and it would [1:40:45] address those requirements of SB 379 [1:40:49] in including the climate adaptation [1:40:52] component of the safety element. The [1:40:54] second phase would be taking that data [1:40:57] and the findings that result from the [1:40:59] phase one vulnerability assessment and [1:41:02] looking at how those could be [1:41:05] implemented in a broader general plan [1:41:07] update. So the general plan is comprised [1:41:09] of the individual elements, but they're [1:41:11] all related and this data would be [1:41:14] applicable to all of those um those [1:41:17] elements. And so phase two would be [1:41:19] looking at the implementation plan and [1:41:23] developing a work program and schedule [1:41:25] to then go into G2 which is a [1:41:28] comprehensive update to those general [1:41:30] plan elements. The housing element is [1:41:32] already updated, completed and [1:41:34] certified. [1:41:36] Next in sequence are all data informed [1:41:40] updates. So the circulation element was [1:41:43] waiting on the completion of the bike [1:41:45] ped master plan which now we can use the [1:41:47] data from that to update our circulation [1:41:50] element. The remaining elements that [1:41:52] need to be updated are land use uh [1:41:56] conservation and open space and noise [1:41:59] and all of those would be updated based [1:42:02] on the data and findings from that [1:42:04] climate and hazard vulnerability [1:42:07] assessment. And the goal is that by [1:42:11] doing this phased approach, it can be a [1:42:14] truly comprehensive and strategic update [1:42:17] where the data is being collected one [1:42:20] time and using AC using it across the [1:42:22] board to do a really um [1:42:27] I keep saying the word comprehensive, [1:42:29] but to do a comprehensive update because [1:42:31] all of those elements speak to each [1:42:33] other and it's important that they're [1:42:35] updated at the same time using the same [1:42:37] information and also from a cost-savings [1:42:39] standpoint um we believe that there are [1:42:43] potential grant opportunities by doing [1:42:46] the phase one vulnerability assessment. [1:42:48] So, our goal is, of course, to um you [1:42:52] know, be strategic about how uh how how [1:42:56] money is spent to collect that data, but [1:42:58] also to make sure that we're we're doing [1:43:00] it all at one time and using it um in a [1:43:05] way that makes sense to get everything [1:43:06] up to date at one time. [1:43:09] And of course, um, as part of the the [1:43:12] phase two development, we would return [1:43:14] to city council for policy direction, [1:43:17] um, and have a conversation about [1:43:19] defining the scope, the schedule, the [1:43:21] sequencing, and really making strategic [1:43:23] and targeted updates to those elements. [1:43:31] » Thank you, Miss Ruiz, um, for the [1:43:32] presentation. Um, any specific question [1:43:34] from the council? Council member Adams. [1:43:38] Thank you so much, Liz. Um, you all have [1:43:40] been doing a great job on this and I [1:43:42] just want to say I think or maybe ask [1:43:46] the question when was this section the [1:43:49] conservation [1:43:51] uh the uh open space no when was that [1:43:55] last reviewed? [1:43:57] >> Those were all updated in 2005. [1:44:00] And so unlike the housing element, the [1:44:02] other elements don't have a state [1:44:05] mandate for how frequently they get [1:44:07] updated. 20 years is the recommendation. [1:44:11] So we're at that time where these need [1:44:13] to be updated anyway. Um so so it's it's [1:44:17] time. [1:44:18] >> Thank you. [1:44:20] >> Um I have a follow-up question on that [1:44:23] specific that was going to be my [1:44:24] question. Um in a recent conference that [1:44:28] we attended um the Cal City's conference [1:44:31] in Southern California, there was a [1:44:33] specific discussion around that that we [1:44:35] do not need to necessarily [1:44:37] do it from scratch. We can do addendums [1:44:40] to what we have from 2005. Um looking at [1:44:44] the projected cost of 100 to 200,000. [1:44:48] Um perhaps you can talk to us about how [1:44:51] we can do this more economically uh [1:44:54] feasible. [1:44:55] >> Absolutely. The goal is to not start [1:44:57] from scratch. The goal is to build off [1:44:59] of the information that we already have [1:45:01] in the elements. Um the cost would [1:45:04] really be driven by that phase one [1:45:06] climate and hazard vulnerability [1:45:08] assessment. um because it is such a [1:45:10] technical analysis and we want to make [1:45:12] sure that we have the the cutting edge [1:45:15] study in terms of evacuation analysis [1:45:18] and looking at um wildfire resiliency [1:45:21] planning. Um so of course like I said we [1:45:25] will explore all grant opportunities any [1:45:27] and all grant opportunities to ensure [1:45:29] that the cost savings are maximized [1:45:31] where possible. Um but in terms of the targeted updates to those elements, [1:45:38] we would be building off of what's [1:45:39] already there. We wouldn't be um [1:45:41] starting from scratch. [1:45:43] >> Okay, great. And and um [1:45:46] yeah, I think the climate um resiliency [1:45:50] updates is critical. Understandably, a [1:45:53] lot has changed since 2005. So having [1:45:55] that information will be helpful, [1:45:57] specific information to residents in [1:45:59] terms of how how is this useful. So, [1:46:02] thanks for clarifying that. I appreciate [1:46:03] it. Um, Vice Mayor Ragdale, [1:46:07] >> thank you, Liz. That that um made a lot [1:46:10] of sense with the the order of things [1:46:13] kind of being in order and also all at [1:46:15] once at the same time. Um, the climate [1:46:18] action plan. So, that's not an element. [1:46:20] It's a separate document, but is [1:46:24] informed by the general plan and the [1:46:27] elements. [1:46:29] >> Yes. And yes. um it's currently a [1:46:31] separate document um but under SB 379 [1:46:36] the CL climate adaptation has to be a [1:46:38] component of the safety element and so [1:46:41] we've been talking with the city [1:46:42] manager's office um and are interested [1:46:44] in partnering with the youth commission [1:46:46] on their project as it relates to the [1:46:49] climate action plan to make sure that we [1:46:51] don't have redundancies but anywhere [1:46:53] that there are related topics that [1:46:55] they're speaking to each other and [1:46:56] getting updated at the same time. [1:46:58] >> Perfect. Perfect. And thank you. And our youth commission is is gung-ho on [1:47:03] this and uh I really appreciate you guys [1:47:06] um incorporating their help. Thank you. [1:47:09] >> Thank you. Okay, we could proceed to the [1:47:11] next um presentation. [1:47:14] >> Great. And I think we have um one more [1:47:16] slide and then we may take a a short [1:47:18] break if that works. [1:47:19] >> Perfect. I was going to suggest that. [1:47:21] >> Um so this last one is u improve [1:47:24] transparency, efficiency, and customer [1:47:26] service through system implementation. [1:47:28] And we could probably have an entire [1:47:29] presentation on systems and IT and roll [1:47:32] out, but just have some very high level [1:47:34] updates. Um, and so I'll ask our uh city [1:47:37] clerk, Lisa Natish, to speak to the [1:47:39] agenda management system implementation [1:47:41] that is underway and will continue into [1:47:43] next year. [1:47:45] Thank you. Yes, we are working on the [1:47:47] agenda management system. Um I think [1:47:50] within days of of Margaret joining the [1:47:52] town, we brought her in and had her [1:47:55] start speaking with our project manager [1:47:57] with the uh the vendor. So uh Margaret [1:48:00] and I have completed the training with [1:48:02] the vendor and then we'll bring in uh [1:48:04] the staff who work on the staff reports. [1:48:06] So this uh system allows staff to work [1:48:09] on staff reports in the system, route [1:48:11] them for approval, and then there uh is [1:48:14] the component that builds the agenda, [1:48:16] the minutes document, and then there's a [1:48:18] great transparency piece that's on the [1:48:20] website where you'll get to see um the [1:48:22] agenda, the minutes, the video, any [1:48:25] supplemental materials, everything all [1:48:28] in the same place uh on the website. So [1:48:31] we're working to complete that very [1:48:33] soon. [1:48:38] Um yeah, I I have one quick uh followup [1:48:42] regarding the video. Are we archiving [1:48:45] our own video now? In other words, is [1:48:48] that information [1:48:50] >> stored by us? [1:48:51] >> Yes. So, the videos are currently on the [1:48:53] website. They're just on a link from the [1:48:55] agenda page. Uh now, uh so you can get [1:48:59] to them now, but in the new system, [1:49:01] everything will be all in the same [1:49:02] place, all in the same page. So really [1:49:05] easy for residents and uh anyone who's [1:49:08] interested to access all from one link. [1:49:10] So everything will be associated with [1:49:12] the meeting all in the same place. [1:49:14] >> Yeah. And I I think my question and [1:49:16] maybe um that can be this can be looked [1:49:18] into later on like who stores that video [1:49:22] who who who [1:49:24] actually keeps that and how let's say 20 [1:49:28] years from now someone wants to access [1:49:29] that. Um the companies change hands [1:49:32] multiple times. technology has changed. [1:49:35] How do we do we have any control over [1:49:37] that information? [1:49:39] I mean, it doesn't have to be answered [1:49:40] at this time. We could certainly look [1:49:42] into it and maybe at a later time give [1:49:44] us an update. I've always been curious [1:49:46] as to um um just with my experience on [1:49:49] 21 and what is it 21 and me in terms of [1:49:52] genetic archiving of people's genetic [1:49:54] information that then changed hands and [1:49:57] who eventually gets a hands on it is I [1:49:59] was just curious. Yeah. [1:50:00] >> Yeah. Right now they're stored on the [1:50:02] town's YouTube account. Um, but we can [1:50:06] uh can look into storing the original [1:50:09] video files and ensuring that there's a [1:50:10] duplicate storage for those. [1:50:12] >> Um, but we do also have minutes. Um, so [1:50:17] >> but I think the videos are extremely [1:50:18] valuable because they're very detailed [1:50:19] and um, yeah, if YouTube gets bought out [1:50:22] by another tech company and refuse to [1:50:24] let go of our information, etc. All [1:50:27] right. Anyways, um, I Yes, go ahead. [1:50:29] Vice Mayor Rexdale, you have a final [1:50:31] comment. [1:50:32] >> Final comment like that. They're so [1:50:34] good. Um I I just had um a a request and [1:50:39] or an offer. Um when you and Margaret [1:50:42] are working on the um agenda and the the [1:50:46] new way that it's going to look, um I'd [1:50:49] love to be your guinea pig. you know, I [1:50:51] have a hobby of looking at other [1:50:52] meetings and agendas and I'm happy to um [1:50:56] click around and um obviously the whole [1:50:58] council would like to um have input on [1:51:01] uh what it looks like because we have we [1:51:03] see other agendas from other board. So, [1:51:05] I'm sure we would all have um some very [1:51:08] helpful input. [1:51:09] >> Great. Thank you. [1:51:10] >> Thanks. [1:51:12] >> Yes, Council Member Adams. I also [1:51:15] already want to compliment you on some [1:51:17] of the upgrades you've already done [1:51:19] under this system. Uh particularly the [1:51:21] readability has been increased [1:51:23] tremendously with the use of upper and [1:51:25] lowerase and this isn't just for the [1:51:28] council. It's for anyone who's looking [1:51:30] at our agendas. Uh one of the things so [1:51:34] thank you. I'm sure it's going to get [1:51:35] even better. I also am handy guinea pig. [1:51:39] Um the other thing is with regard to the [1:51:42] website, I would really like to again [1:51:45] complement our CCAC but also make sure [1:51:49] that uh we start uh some kind of a photo [1:51:54] library program so that we have more [1:51:57] photos of the town. It's not easy to [1:51:59] photograph this town without [1:52:01] sightspecific [1:52:03] images and we need a lot of really [1:52:05] vibrant and high quality highdefin [1:52:08] images and we have a lot of uh [1:52:11] photographers in town that we could [1:52:14] enlist to do this. And that library will [1:52:19] really keep our website uh looking not [1:52:23] only current but more interesting. And [1:52:26] if we get a band of photographers who [1:52:29] know how to take uh and how to how to [1:52:33] take images that are nonidentifiable but [1:52:35] still interesting and also how to get [1:52:39] releases so that we can use them. I [1:52:41] think it would be a a good goal for us [1:52:44] to have. [1:52:44] >> Yeah. I I I would like to follow up on [1:52:46] that. Um, another uh thing I learned [1:52:48] from that conference was actually for [1:52:50] the general plan updates really using [1:52:54] more visuals in terms of what our [1:52:56] general plan looks like and using photos [1:52:58] from the town would be extremely useful. [1:53:00] Like they said, a picture is worth a [1:53:01] thousand words. We can convey a lot of [1:53:04] information using digital um photos as [1:53:07] well as graphic. And we have questions. [1:53:10] Yeah, go ahead. Vice Mayor Rexel. [1:53:12] >> Sorry. Uh, Council Member Kick and I are [1:53:14] so eager to uh share, she agreed that I [1:53:17] could share that our William Lee is on [1:53:19] it with the photos and CCAC and they're [1:53:22] working on uh on exactly what you talked [1:53:24] about. Thank you. [1:53:26] >> Great. Um, go ahead. Um, Vice Mayor [1:53:28] Rexel, I'm sorry. [1:53:30] >> Go ahead, Council Member Crowley. [1:53:32] >> Great minds think alike. We just at the [1:53:34] CCAC, we just said let's start to [1:53:36] solicit photos um for the homepage. So [1:53:40] great. And I just wanted to um point out [1:53:42] there's one small change that I think [1:53:44] has been really helpful this year on the [1:53:46] part of building and planning and um and [1:53:49] the city manager's office that um you've [1:53:52] both started to post just the agenda [1:53:55] separately from the full packet. And I [1:53:57] think that's just so useful when you [1:53:59] want to just simply um access the [1:54:01] agenda. You don't have to wait till [1:54:03] everything loads. So thank you for that. [1:54:05] >> Yeah. [1:54:06] >> Thank you. Uh [1:54:08] thank you for the great work. Um you [1:54:10] know uh it it obviously was felt and [1:54:13] especially when we were assessing the [1:54:15] agenda. I also want to compliment the city manager's office for answering [1:54:20] the question answering phone calls [1:54:22] within three rings. Um that was always [1:54:25] you know we have we have residents who [1:54:27] um hesitant to call the town hall for [1:54:30] questions and I always encourage them to [1:54:32] do so. But uh it's it's wonderful to see [1:54:35] that it's been picked up regularly and [1:54:37] consistently and quickly uh because I [1:54:40] think that is much appreciated. Um one [1:54:43] other comments that I want to make and [1:54:44] that is the our townwide mobile app. I I [1:54:48] do think that we need to promote that [1:54:50] more. Um I I do you know I think we want [1:54:52] to drive the the information to our [1:54:56] website. Unfortunately, people are not [1:54:58] going to be sitting in front of their [1:55:00] desktop or laptop at all times. The [1:55:02] phone is really the critical ones. So, [1:55:05] to the extent of the YouTube [1:55:07] instructions, maybe there's um ways that [1:55:11] we can um invite the mayor or you know, [1:55:14] some other um staff members to do a [1:55:17] quick demo of how to get onto the [1:55:20] website and how to be able to sign up [1:55:23] and promote uh some of the you know, [1:55:25] easy access. some information. I think [1:55:27] that will be really critical. Thank you. [1:55:30] >> Thank you everyone. I think I agree with [1:55:32] the staff. This is a perfect time to [1:55:34] take a break. And with that said, we'll [1:55:36] adjourn for a 15 minutes, 20 minutes [1:55:39] break. We could grab some lunch, early [1:55:41] lunch. Okay, sounds good. It's midnight. [1:55:46] » We We have this just set up as a small [1:55:48] break to take that. I will I believe our [1:55:50] city clerk just informed me that lunch [1:55:52] uh items are there if you want to grab [1:55:54] something real quick. But uh [1:55:56] >> lunch is here if you would like it to be [1:55:57] a lunch break, if you'd prefer it to [1:55:59] just be a brief break, whatever you'd [1:56:00] like to do. [1:56:02] >> It it is probably appropriate to take um [1:56:05] 20 minutes, 15 to 20 minutes if someone [1:56:07] wants to grab something to eat and then [1:56:08] we'll come back in about 20 minutes. [1:56:10] >> Okay, let's do it in 20. [1:56:12] >> Yeah, mjourn for a break. [1:56:17] Okay, we will now resume our special [1:56:20] city council meeting where we are [1:56:22] discussing our goal setting for 26 27. [1:56:26] And um here is the proposed work plan to [1:56:29] be presented by assistant city manager [1:56:32] um Mandy Brown. [1:56:33] >> Thank you. And [1:56:34] >> I'm sorry, city manager uh [1:56:36] >> I will open it up and then of course [1:56:38] we'll we'll hand it over to the talented [1:56:40] Miss Brown here to get us through it. Uh [1:56:42] just a few things on this. This is uh [1:56:43] the culmination of some of the meetings [1:56:45] that the commissioners have had with [1:56:46] department heads. You will see some of [1:56:48] these projects are continuing projects [1:56:50] from the previous year. And something [1:56:52] that we've done and uh just to keep in [1:56:54] mind here, these are some of these [1:56:56] projects are are going to be ongoing [1:56:58] over course of years. So it might seem, [1:57:01] you know, why are we reviewing this at [1:57:02] this time? We just picked out some of [1:57:04] the major ones that we think the council [1:57:07] needs to keep updated on and keep [1:57:09] getting input about. And also [1:57:12] 85 to 90% u of what the department heads [1:57:16] do with their departments is kind of not [1:57:18] listed in here. Previously we've gone [1:57:20] through department uh presentations but [1:57:22] I think we've had a enough meetings on [1:57:24] that category to where you understand [1:57:25] the kind of the breadth of work that [1:57:27] each department is doing. This is really [1:57:28] just on that 10% portion that would be [1:57:32] new goals or things that we want to look [1:57:34] into doing uh in the following year. At [1:57:36] this portion, I want to this is where we [1:57:38] want to get as much creativity and [1:57:40] everybody's thoughts as we can [1:57:42] financially. Of course, we'll have to uh [1:57:44] to have a serious conversation with our our director Cook over there to make [1:57:49] sure that we can financially do a lot of [1:57:51] these uh items up there. And I will say [1:57:53] that, you know, recently the vice mayor [1:57:55] and mayor and myself attended a meeting [1:57:57] uh at the county with uh Mike Caligie [1:58:01] and also supervisor Corzo put on and one [1:58:03] of the biggest conversations in that was [1:58:05] of course uh VLF, the vehicle licensing [1:58:08] fund and the budgeting related to that [1:58:10] and it uh it was not optimistic I would [1:58:14] say is the is the outlook that we're looking at here. Jan uh has been [1:58:18] working uh to put together our budget [1:58:20] process for the upcoming cycle. At this [1:58:23] point, we have that VLF funding within [1:58:25] our budget. Um but we just need to keep [1:58:28] in mind that that may not be available [1:58:30] or it may be a smaller portion than we [1:58:32] anticipate uh that being. So, while [1:58:34] we're going to go through all these [1:58:35] goals now, if at a certain point we need [1:58:37] to scale back anything, we can certainly [1:58:39] revisit some of them because of [1:58:41] budgetary. But that being said, this is [1:58:44] the time when we're not going to think [1:58:45] about the budget as much as we are just [1:58:47] going to think about some of the things [1:58:48] you want to do. And I would say here [1:58:50] that this is a at a very high level. [1:58:52] We're just looking to put the goals out [1:58:54] there, not really the nuance of how [1:58:56] those goals are done. Once we get the [1:58:58] direction from the council, we'll put [1:58:59] our departments to work to come back to [1:59:01] city council meetings to give you some [1:59:03] strategies and some options for you to [1:59:05] select on how to achieve those goals. [1:59:07] And with that, I'll turn it over to [1:59:08] Mandy. [1:59:11] Thank you. Um, so as Doug said, we [1:59:15] really tried to take some of the the [1:59:16] feedback from last year's goal setting [1:59:19] um, as well uh, to make sure that we are [1:59:23] streamlining this goal list. So this [1:59:26] slide has the proposed uh, list of goals [1:59:29] based on that input we'd received. And [1:59:31] you'll notice that some of the [1:59:32] operational or legally required items [1:59:35] have been removed. That doesn't mean [1:59:37] that they're not getting done. Um, but [1:59:39] we are focusing the conversation on more [1:59:42] of those specific projects. And when [1:59:44] there is something that is legally [1:59:46] required listed here, it's because it [1:59:48] requires a substantial amount of [1:59:50] community engagement or feedback or is a high visibility item for council. And [1:59:56] so we've we've tried to incorporate that [1:59:58] feedback. We also have that full list of [2:00:01] goals, the big um sort of Excel [2:00:03] document. Um and based on feedback from [2:00:06] last year, there was uh interest in some [2:00:09] additional details on the proposed goals [2:00:11] of how much would it cost, how much [2:00:13] staff time, what does small amount of [2:00:15] staff time mean. So we've uh attempted [2:00:18] to provide that information, not [2:00:20] necessarily trying to get into the [2:00:22] nitty-gritty and we are still in the [2:00:24] budget development phase. Uh so those [2:00:27] numbers are not set in stone, but I did [2:00:29] ask we did work with staff to provide [2:00:31] some of that preliminary information to [2:00:33] inform your discussion today. Um and so [2:00:36] that's prepared. Um it's also in the [2:00:38] PowerPoint um that we'll just walk [2:00:40] through. [2:00:41] Um and again, just like in the first um [2:00:44] session of the prior year's goals, um [2:00:48] jump in for questions or comments as we [2:00:51] go along. I'm not going to talk for a [2:00:53] long time um and then ask for questions. [2:00:55] It'll be a an iterative process. [2:00:59] Um so the that first goal A remains the [2:01:02] same related to community emergency [2:01:04] preparedness and resiliency efforts. [2:01:06] Yes, [2:01:08] >> Madame Mayor, may I just comment on it? [2:01:11] Could it it now just references wireless [2:01:14] service rather than telecommunications [2:01:18] and [2:01:19] >> we can make that change? Okay. [2:01:23] Thanks for that clarification. Yeah. [2:01:30] » Um okay, so the the telecommunications [2:01:33] um needs assessment. So, we have those [2:01:35] specific milestones, but really focusing [2:01:37] on the third column of the key projects [2:01:39] and initiatives, continuing that [2:01:41] wildfire preparedness that we had [2:01:42] already spoken about, Highline Water [2:01:44] Project and grant funding, and then [2:01:47] advancing technology to improve public [2:01:49] safety and transparency. [2:01:56] » Mayor, [2:01:57] >> yes, [2:01:57] >> just a quick comments. Um I I I do think [2:02:00] that you know um through the council [2:02:03] member Adams and also the rest of the [2:02:05] council's um support um the idea of [2:02:09] telecommunication [2:02:11] um update um you know or just the plan [2:02:15] for the future is it's is set in such a [2:02:18] way is a much better it facilitate much [2:02:20] better conversation uh rather than when [2:02:22] we have a project and then we have to [2:02:25] react to that. So compliment to the [2:02:27] staff and also to the council for doing [2:02:29] that. [2:02:34] » Thank you. [2:02:37] >> Uh next goal area was implement the [2:02:39] housing element and maintain compliance [2:02:41] with state requirements. So carrying [2:02:44] over the projects of Tobin Clark and [2:02:46] town hall uh with some uh proposed [2:02:50] milestones listed for each of those [2:02:52] projects. uh comprehensive general plan [2:02:55] update with that safety element and then [2:02:57] the housing element programs and fees [2:03:00] which is the nexus study and the [2:03:02] objective design standards that Liz [2:03:04] spoke about. [2:03:07] >> Um I have um some comments on the [2:03:09] section and it sounds like council [2:03:11] member uh Chuang also you may go first. [2:03:14] >> Yes, thank you. Um I uh again I I I want [2:03:19] to reiterate uh the importance of the [2:03:22] regular updates on um the Tobin Clark [2:03:26] project and also the town hall projects. [2:03:28] I know that there's a lot of discussions [2:03:30] behind the scene. I think that it would [2:03:32] be helpful to bring it to daylight so [2:03:34] that we have you know in the public [2:03:37] setting would be able to hear in terms [2:03:39] of the process in terms of the pathway [2:03:42] going forward. um because both of the uh [2:03:46] you know uh project requires large [2:03:50] effort from the staff um and you know [2:03:53] and then there's the funding mechanisms [2:03:56] that um we have spent some money on the [2:03:58] toben clark um but not on the town hall [2:04:02] um so just in terms of be mindful of the the dollar amount that we're going [2:04:08] to be spending on these projects I think [2:04:10] it's more critical for us to the current [2:04:14] in terms of the progress or if there are [2:04:17] any change of trajectory that we need to [2:04:19] know about um so that uh it's uh it's [2:04:24] transparent to the public and also for [2:04:26] um everyone to get involved and because [2:04:28] everyone has a stake in this [2:04:30] >> right and and I I concur with that with [2:04:32] those sentiments um just um for [2:04:35] clarification and correct me if I'm [2:04:38] wrong for the Tobin Clark project the [2:04:42] 399,100 [2:04:43] is the amount we discussed in October of [2:04:46] last year. [2:04:48] that was um and and this is where I was [2:04:51] trying to understand how the money is [2:04:52] moved that was moved into capital from [2:04:55] into capital projects from reserve [2:04:58] um to um basically meet the um the [2:05:04] request for the consultation which is [2:05:07] 539 539,000 [2:05:11] over I believe 41 months. It's it's a [2:05:14] project that goes until 2029, [2:05:17] I believe. So, in other words, this is [2:05:20] not additional funding. It's funding [2:05:22] that we discussed um in October, four [2:05:25] months ago. Is that correct? [2:05:28] >> The phase 1A and 1B was approved and [2:05:31] that was the the 144 and the 399 is for [2:05:35] the phase 2. So, because it would be in [2:05:37] fiscal year 2627 and it may extend [2:05:40] beyond that. So this is the additional [2:05:43] scope that was not already approved by [2:05:45] council. Um that would take place in [2:05:47] next fiscal year. Um so it's not [2:05:49] including what's already been committed. [2:05:51] >> But what was approved in October was a [2:05:53] total for in terms of the current budget [2:05:56] um for the consultants was 529. It [2:06:00] includes this 3.99. Is that correct? [2:06:03] >> Yeah. So Mandy's right. There was [2:06:05] originally a budget in professional [2:06:08] services for that first amount and that [2:06:10] additional amount the 399 that's what [2:06:12] was taken to council. Now they haven't [2:06:14] spent yet but we already put that [2:06:16] dedicated money as a transfer for that [2:06:18] project. So if they use it there isn't [2:06:21] an additional transfer or amendment [2:06:22] needed in 2627 but the spending might [2:06:25] occur in 2627. [2:06:27] >> Okay. So it's just reflecting when the [2:06:29] spending might occur. You're not asking [2:06:31] for additional to that October funding. [2:06:34] Okay, I just wanted a clarification on [2:06:36] that. And with regards to the town hall [2:06:38] project to be determined [2:06:41] um in 2020 [2:06:44] um four I believe we approved 429,000 [2:06:50] I'm sorry 424,000 something to that [2:06:52] effect. um 442 $442,700 [2:06:58] and that is still in budget from and [2:07:02] this was in October of 2024. Correct. So [2:07:07] is that do we have any feedback in terms [2:07:10] of how much of that has been spent? What [2:07:13] percent what is the reserve out of that [2:07:15] if any? [2:07:18] Um, of that there's about 80 just over [2:07:21] $80,000 remaining and that gets us [2:07:25] through the end of phase one. And so the [2:07:29] contract with EHDD and red dot is to [2:07:32] bring is through the end of phase one [2:07:35] and then phase two would be determined [2:07:37] whether or not we wanted to enter into [2:07:39] another contract with them or do an RFP [2:07:41] for a new consultant to partner with. on [2:07:44] phase two. [2:07:47] >> It was my understanding that that 442700 [2:07:50] was for phase one and two. That was what [2:07:52] was presented in October of 2024. [2:07:57] Is that not correct? [2:08:00] I I would have to look back um at [2:08:02] exactly the details of what we were [2:08:04] calling phase one and phase two, but um [2:08:07] perhaps it's that it was phase one and [2:08:09] phase two and then this would be for for [2:08:11] phase three. But what their contract [2:08:13] included was uh coming up with a master [2:08:17] plan, a master site plan with site [2:08:19] adjacencies, determining the [2:08:21] feasibility, how to accommodate our [2:08:23] parking needs. So the remaining budget [2:08:25] will cover that. What wasn't concluded [2:08:29] is the next phase which would be [2:08:32] construction documents and actually [2:08:34] going into the design development. [2:08:36] >> Okay. So according to the documents from [2:08:38] October of 2024, [2:08:41] the amount that was authorized in that [2:08:43] resolution was for phase one and phase [2:08:45] two which took us through the master [2:08:47] planning. I'm sorry. So it's probably [2:08:48] phase three that we're talking about [2:08:50] going forward. [2:08:51] >> Yes. I apologize for the question. that [2:08:52] amount does include the master planning [2:08:55] um because that's what was outlined. [2:08:57] >> Yes, that just gets us up through the [2:08:58] end of coming up with a master plan and [2:09:01] then concludes at um a natural break [2:09:04] point where we would then decide what to [2:09:06] do about the design, development and [2:09:09] construction documents. [2:09:11] >> Okay. Okay. And and just let me just go [2:09:12] back slightly on Tobin Clark. That [2:09:15] amount that was approved um October of [2:09:18] last year, which is four months ago for [2:09:21] um 539 100, that was for phase one and [2:09:27] two, correct? I mean, that's what the [2:09:29] agenda package stated back then. [2:09:34] It included the master plan for phase [2:09:36] one and two. [2:09:41] and and and I'm I didn't mean to stump [2:09:43] you. I just felt like these are such big [2:09:45] numbers that we need to be clear and so [2:09:48] does the public in terms of what we're [2:09:51] paying for and um these are huge numbers [2:09:54] and also to clarify to the residents and I think it's all in there. I'm just restating this such that when [2:10:01] >> residents reach out to us instead asking [2:10:03] questions we are clear we're all [2:10:05] speaking the same language. Yeah. [2:10:06] >> Yes. So what was included in the [2:10:10] previously approved budget was for phase [2:10:13] 1A which is the due diligence and phase [2:10:16] 1B which is the preliminary master plan [2:10:19] and then for Tobin Clark the phase 2 [2:10:21] master plan is the scope that would [2:10:23] return to council for that additional [2:10:26] amount that has been set aside. [2:10:35] I I think we'll need I would need more [2:10:38] clarification on that. Looking back at [2:10:40] that agenda package and what was [2:10:42] written. Um [2:10:44] it was my understanding that that budget [2:10:47] included phase one and two and this [2:10:51] project is estimated to go through 2029. [2:10:54] If there is a change that I'm not aware [2:10:56] of, it would be good to clarify that [2:10:59] >> just not just for the council but for [2:11:01] the residents as well. [2:11:02] >> Yes, we can clarify that. [2:11:04] >> Okay, great. Um I think [2:11:12] um those are my questions for now on [2:11:14] those um two. Well, one one quick [2:11:16] question I have on the um sort of going [2:11:19] back to item A. I'm sorry about this. Um [2:11:22] I didn't ask the question earlier [2:11:25] regarding the implementation of incar [2:11:27] video cameras. Is that for um the police [2:11:31] officers vehicles in car videos? Is that [2:11:34] the camera we're talking about? [2:11:36] >> Yes, that's correct. And it's going to [2:11:37] be from Axon, which is an existing [2:11:39] company we already work with with our [2:11:41] bodywn cameras. And what this camera [2:11:44] system is, it's a [2:11:46] it's got four total cameras inside the [2:11:49] vehicle. The the front facing is a dual [2:11:52] paint. They call it a dual view, which [2:11:54] is like a panoramic view, which also has [2:11:57] the capability of an ALPR, a license [2:12:01] plate reader. Uh, but that's an [2:12:03] additional cost. The original just comes [2:12:05] with the dual pane. It also has two side [2:12:08] view cameras and one camera back on the prisoner. [2:12:13] It's beneficial. Re reduces liability [2:12:17] for the town and it also uh protects the [2:12:20] officers with uh false allegations. [2:12:24] >> Right. Right. Thanks for that [2:12:26] clarification. Um any additional um [2:12:29] questions on item A and B from the [2:12:32] council? [2:12:37] Seeing none and no uh well we haven't [2:12:39] gone to public comment yet. Um you may [2:12:41] proceed. I'm sorry. Thanks Mandy. [2:12:44] >> Uh thank you. And uh goal C uh remains [2:12:48] unchanged. enhance quality of life with [2:12:50] the some of the returning key projects [2:12:52] being the code enforcement um with [2:12:55] specific milestones related to the code [2:12:57] enforcement position um and activities [2:13:00] execution of the 40 Baywood agreement [2:13:02] and working towards operations. So [2:13:05] including that financial analysis to [2:13:06] determine the operational and facility [2:13:08] needs revenue potential. Um [2:13:12] the next one is formalizing the town's [2:13:14] role and partnership in the annual [2:13:16] Memorial Day parade. Um being able to [2:13:19] support the parade in any negative fund [2:13:22] balance. Looking at studying the [2:13:25] feasibility of establishing a foundation [2:13:26] either independent or under the town to [2:13:29] support fundraising efforts um to allow [2:13:32] um tax deductions um for donors to the [2:13:35] parade um and any other fundraising [2:13:37] efforts. and then uh delineating the [2:13:40] process and roles for the vendor [2:13:42] agreements uh really with our risk [2:13:44] management JPA make sure that they're in [2:13:46] accordance um with our the town's [2:13:49] policies [2:13:51] and the last one is the update the [2:13:52] climate action plan and this can be [2:13:54] dovetailed with some of those efforts in [2:13:56] the safety element that Liz was [2:13:58] referring to um but our climate action [2:14:00] plan is from 2010 and the youth [2:14:03] commission is very interested in [2:14:05] supporting and uh being engaged in [2:14:08] leading this effort. We've also had um a [2:14:10] few members of the public ask to be [2:14:12] involved in some stakeholder group um [2:14:15] once this process is brought forward. So [2:14:18] um looking to coordinate that with the [2:14:20] building and planning assessments that [2:14:21] would be be done. [2:14:25] >> Um question um Council Member Krick. [2:14:29] >> Uh yeah, thank you so much Mandy for all [2:14:31] of this. I just wanted to um [2:14:34] just shine some light a little bit on [2:14:36] this um 501c3 idea which is number two [2:14:40] under the parade. Um and in uh what we [2:14:44] have been doing uh we've been pushing [2:14:49] not pushing but we've been using HBF for [2:14:52] some foundations to the parade because [2:14:54] they have a 501c3 status and then [2:14:57] they've been giving money to the parade. [2:15:00] But um when they were audited that it it [2:15:03] causes problems with their audit. So HBF [2:15:06] is not opposed to our starting some kind [2:15:10] of Hillsboro Community Foundation. Um [2:15:13] which is one reason why we sort of [2:15:16] stayed away from doing that when we [2:15:17] established the parade is because we [2:15:19] didn't want to get an HBF lane or HSF's [2:15:21] lane by creating HCF. But now it looks [2:15:25] like we're at the point that we've got a [2:15:27] couple different things that could [2:15:28] benefit from a community fund and [2:15:30] hopefully residents that well we do know [2:15:33] that there are residents who are willing [2:15:34] to donate for both the parade um [2:15:38] potentially 40 Baywood and potentially [2:15:40] for the town hall project for some kind [2:15:42] of community room that it would be very [2:15:44] useful for us to have a an entity where [2:15:48] the town um and and Mandy is looking [2:15:51] into this. That's why there's a figure [2:15:53] associated with this because it would [2:15:55] probably um it it we'd need to hire a [2:15:58] consultant to look into it and to help [2:16:00] us set it up. But I think it it could be [2:16:03] something that would be very beneficial [2:16:04] for all these different things. [2:16:09] >> Um I thanks for that clarification. I [2:16:12] actually have a question. Um and it's [2:16:15] more of a legal question for our city [2:16:16] attorney. [2:16:18] How what are the legal parameters around [2:16:22] the town itself or the city council or [2:16:25] whatever can form a 501c because I the [2:16:29] last time this subject came up on the [2:16:30] day a couple of residents reached out to [2:16:32] me and said implied we didn't know what [2:16:35] we're talking about so please clarify. [2:16:37] No, we are aware of cities. Oh, thank [2:16:39] you for the question, number one. And [2:16:40] number two, yes, we are aware of cities [2:16:42] that have established nonprofits. Um, [2:16:44] used them for a variety of fundraising [2:16:46] mechanisms. Um, but it is something [2:16:48] we've helped cities establish in the [2:16:49] past. And so, it is something that the [2:16:51] town can do. Um, we'd want to look at [2:16:53] what the uses would be and make sure [2:16:54] it's consistent with nonprofit law. Um, [2:16:56] but yes, we'd help you with all the [2:16:58] documentation to establish that. [2:16:59] >> So, but it does sound like it's [2:17:01] possible. It's just a matter of [2:17:02] structuring it within the legal [2:17:04] constraints. Got you. Thank you. [2:17:05] Appreciate that. Thanks. Thanks for [2:17:07] those thoughts. Um, Council Member [2:17:09] Adams. [2:17:09] >> Yeah, along those lines, that those were [2:17:11] my questions. The other question is, um, [2:17:15] it takes a while to do a 501c3. We may [2:17:18] not need a 501c3. We may need something [2:17:21] else, but uh, I think they have to be [2:17:24] really careful about mission mission [2:17:26] creep can, especially when we start [2:17:28] talking about all the other things that [2:17:30] this could accept money for. And what we [2:17:33] don't want is people solicited for [2:17:35] donations in advance of projects that [2:17:38] we've already uh approved because that [2:17:41] can really complicate things as well. [2:17:43] And uh so I think it's tricky uh because [2:17:47] yes, it doesn't compete with other uh [2:17:50] 501c3s that we have in town, but it [2:17:53] does. So, I think we need to talk about [2:17:56] it uh carefully, but I'm just not clear [2:18:01] about what our relationship is right now [2:18:03] with the parade. Let's just stick with [2:18:06] the parade because I haven't been [2:18:07] involved in the, you know, the mechanics [2:18:10] and the administration of it. What is [2:18:12] our relationship? because I know that [2:18:15] council members get involved in [2:18:18] orchestrating it, but there are also [2:18:20] chairs that run it and the finance for [2:18:24] it. I assume we do some inind donations [2:18:28] of all kinds of things uh protection and [2:18:32] security forces and participation and I [2:18:36] do hear that there's a little issue [2:18:38] around uh liability and insurance. So, [2:18:42] can we just um get a clear definition of [2:18:45] our current relationship and the [2:18:47] problems that we're trying to solve? [2:18:49] >> Sure. And I'll I'll speak to some of the [2:18:51] issues you spoke about and I think [2:18:53] Council Member Kroll's probably most [2:18:55] qualified to speak on some of the other [2:18:56] issues there with relation to the to the [2:19:00] finance of it. It's, you know, it's [2:19:01] always been a a town supported event. It [2:19:03] is probably our biggest event uh since [2:19:06] Concourse is now out of town and we have [2:19:08] the parade every year. So I think it's [2:19:09] an sort of our signature thing. It [2:19:12] started out as a centennial parade and [2:19:14] then was uh very very popular and has [2:19:16] evolved to to where it's at now. On some [2:19:19] of the issues with the as you were [2:19:20] discussing the liability, a lot of that [2:19:22] is just timing um and working with our [2:19:25] volunteers to make sure they understand [2:19:27] that some of the liability requirements [2:19:31] um that are there are sometimes a bit [2:19:34] arduous for an average vendor. So, a [2:19:36] vendor who may be used to showing up to [2:19:39] like a popup market or a street fair [2:19:41] where they're they're selling their [2:19:43] foods or or items that are happening [2:19:45] there, when it comes here to our city [2:19:47] and we're using it as a city event, our [2:19:50] insurers are looking for a much higher [2:19:52] coverage than most of them carry. So, a [2:19:54] lot of that is just us working with [2:19:56] those vendors to make sure that they are [2:19:58] one willing to carry that insurance and [2:20:01] then also that they have that in place. [2:20:02] And I think us being involved in a more [2:20:04] formal matter as the city helps relieve [2:20:07] some of that burden from the volunteers. [2:20:09] are really there for exactly [2:20:11] what they do. And the parade doesn't [2:20:13] happen without the volunteers. And it's [2:20:15] their creativity that makes it such a [2:20:17] great event. They I don't know if that [2:20:19] was if staff was told, hey, we need you [2:20:22] to find these drivers and cars and [2:20:24] things like that. We just don't that [2:20:26] wouldn't be within our wheelhouse [2:20:27] compared to how good a job the [2:20:28] volunteers do. So, it'll always be an [2:20:31] amalgamation between this volunteer [2:20:33] group and the city. And I think what [2:20:34] this is looking to do is take some of [2:20:36] that burden off of the volunteers and [2:20:39] the the $5,000 amount that's listed up [2:20:41] there. That's just sort of a running uh [2:20:44] balance that we have over the years with [2:20:46] the parade. Uh and we think that that [2:20:49] dollar amount right there is kind of [2:20:50] sufficient to shure up some of the [2:20:52] financial shortcomings there. And of [2:20:54] course, all the the staff hours and that [2:20:55] kind of stuff is somewhat embedded. [2:20:57] that's within our cost of doing business [2:20:58] on a day-to-day uh basis. Um, and we've [2:21:02] always gotten amazing help from our our [2:21:04] allies around the county who come in and [2:21:06] help, particularly the police academy [2:21:08] and other police agencies that we've [2:21:10] used as well. We pay them back, of [2:21:12] course, every time they have a big [2:21:13] event. Our Hillsboro officers go to [2:21:15] their cities to do it like kind pay. So [2:21:18] this part about the liability and the [2:21:21] insurance and the financing part of it, [2:21:23] I think this just helps formalize it [2:21:25] because you got to remember this group's [2:21:26] been running for a very long time with [2:21:29] just people who know each other, right? [2:21:30] We're and and so we're looking to sort [2:21:32] of formalize that so that the next [2:21:34] generation uh coming through and running [2:21:37] this parade when myself and people [2:21:39] who've worked on it for so long are no [2:21:41] longer here that they have a good [2:21:42] framework to move forward. And I'll let [2:21:44] Miss Kwick speak on the rest. [2:21:46] >> Yeah. and and council member Chong could [2:21:48] do about the history of it. But the city [2:21:49] manager, right, it started in 2010 to [2:21:52] celebrate our centennial and it was such [2:21:55] a popular event that residents came to [2:21:57] us and said, can we do this again and we [2:21:59] will help. So, um it could not be done [2:22:02] without the support of HPD and public [2:22:05] works and and for fortunately for the [2:22:08] town I think because I think it's a [2:22:10] great community building event and now [2:22:13] we have children who come up and say, [2:22:14] "Mrs. acrylic. I grew up with this [2:22:15] parade. Um and uh when the concore left, [2:22:19] one aspect of the conc was this carnival [2:22:22] that we had every year. So now the [2:22:23] parade has taken that on. Um and and the [2:22:27] support of the city manager's office, [2:22:28] too. So from the very beginning, we were [2:22:30] really lucky. We had the support of the [2:22:32] city manager, the police chief, and the [2:22:34] public works director. And without that [2:22:36] triumvirate, I don't think we could have [2:22:38] continued. And then the volunteer part [2:22:40] of it is we the volunteers um take care [2:22:44] of the logistics and we have been [2:22:46] quietly fundraising. We've have kind of [2:22:49] a friends of the parade committee and we [2:22:51] quietly send them a letter every year [2:22:53] and they have underwritten the stage, [2:22:56] the sound system, the carnival, um you [2:23:00] know those different logistical things. [2:23:02] But in the past three years, I think [2:23:04] we've run a $5,000 deficit three years [2:23:07] in a row from what we've quietly [2:23:09] collected and what it's actually cost [2:23:11] because the costs particularly of the [2:23:13] sound system and the stage keep going [2:23:15] up. But the volunteers bring uh one is [2:23:18] in charge of the food trucks and the [2:23:19] food trucks don't cost us anything and [2:23:22] we don't pay them anything and they [2:23:23] don't pay us anything. They just come, [2:23:25] they sell. So, it's kind of a win-win. [2:23:27] Somebody's in charge of the carnival and [2:23:29] we usually we hire a um we hire a [2:23:33] company that brings in the games. [2:23:34] Somebody's in charge of of um recruiting [2:23:38] all of the convertibles. Somebody uh [2:23:41] Leslie has been in charge of recruiting [2:23:43] the dignitaries to ride in the [2:23:45] convertibles. We have a committee that [2:23:47] reaches out to sports teams, scouts, [2:23:51] schools, community, uh, service [2:23:54] organizations to ask them to be to [2:23:58] participate. And then, uh, Council [2:24:00] Member Trang has overseen the observance [2:24:03] ceremony part of it. Um, and then Julie [2:24:06] Bordon, who's the chair, is really the [2:24:08] logistics chair. She works with Wreck. [2:24:10] underwrites the portaotties, which [2:24:12] is nice. um and and she oversees kind of [2:24:15] the setup of the field and and um the [2:24:18] cable cars that uh are shuttle people [2:24:21] from parking to the site and that also [2:24:24] carry the kids in the parade. So, it's a Oh, and then we have uh [2:24:30] volunteers who oversee the community [2:24:32] music festival. They sign up all of the [2:24:34] acts and they make sure that that all [2:24:36] runs really well. Anything that I'm [2:24:38] leaving out? So, so it's definitely a [2:24:40] partnership and now it's been in [2:24:42] existence for, you know, going on 16 [2:24:45] years and um and that's kind of how it [2:24:47] works, but it it it we have never uh [2:24:52] solicited kind of corporate [2:24:55] underwriting. And now I think we're at [2:24:57] the point where we could do that, but we [2:24:59] would need a 501c3 or some kind of [2:25:02] entity that realtors and banks and, you [2:25:06] know, different corporations could [2:25:07] possibly give to. We would need that, [2:25:10] right? Well, I think based on what you [2:25:12] just said, I mean, what I enjoy [2:25:13] listening to is just the um sort of um [2:25:18] groundwork. Basically, it's a community [2:25:20] event and all the volunteers who step up [2:25:23] and um keeping it at that level is just [2:25:26] really wonderful, but of course [2:25:27] offsetting the costs such that we're not [2:25:29] running a deficit on it. And I think if [2:25:32] we were to partner it with the as you [2:25:34] mentioned the Baywood and town hall, we [2:25:36] will need to do financial analysis of [2:25:38] both of those entities. Um we'll need to [2:25:41] do financial analysis of both of those [2:25:42] entities so we know what is the scope of [2:25:44] the amount of money we're talking about. [2:25:46] you already outlined what's necessary [2:25:48] for the parade which sounds fairly [2:25:50] nominal as we decide how to move forward [2:25:52] with the 501c. So it sounds like the in [2:25:55] on this section at least the key issue [2:25:58] is [2:25:59] what do we want to be included in this [2:26:01] 501c for solicitation [2:26:03] doing the financial analysis for those [2:26:05] two big other Baywood and town hall and [2:26:09] even with town hall figuring out how [2:26:10] much of that we want to solicit for and [2:26:12] what we cannot solicit for etc and then [2:26:15] making the decision about a 501c do my [2:26:18] colleagues want to add anything else to [2:26:20] that [2:26:20] >> well there will be u there will be [2:26:23] financial implic applications with the [2:26:25] 501c3 and forming a nine, you know, [2:26:28] their 990 annually. So, the audits that [2:26:31] would be necessary, I I'm not sure who [2:26:34] this 501c3 would be managed by the [2:26:37] board. So, I guess you're working on [2:26:39] looking at ways to do this. Okay. Okay. [2:26:41] Thank you. [2:26:42] >> Great. Thank you. [2:26:43] >> All right. Yes. [2:26:45] >> Thank you. Um I I thought that city [2:26:48] managers and uh council member Corle uh [2:26:51] summarized it very well in terms of the [2:26:53] scope and the depth of uh the Memorial [2:26:55] Day parade. Um I and and the events that come with. Um I I do want to uh uh [2:27:03] sort of I I I see the sort of the uh [2:27:07] evolutions as to we we could use a [2:27:10] better funding, we could use a better [2:27:11] management of risk management and all [2:27:14] that encompassing and so the discussion [2:27:16] is about the 501c3 [2:27:18] uh or some types of that 501c. Um, I do [2:27:23] want to suggest that all these other [2:27:27] cities, either through their chambers of [2:27:30] commerce or through their um, recrecks [2:27:34] and parks departments have uh, continue [2:27:38] to also work on many of those community [2:27:41] events at different levels. And I wonder [2:27:44] if we want to uh at least find out what [2:27:49] are the best practices out there for [2:27:51] supporting all these community events in [2:27:53] our town. The Memorial Day parade and [2:27:55] the music festival and the carnival that [2:27:58] come with uh is one of the best events [2:28:01] in terms of [2:28:03] uh bringing the community uh together, [2:28:07] you know, young and old and it just [2:28:09] all-encompassing. And so it is wonderful [2:28:12] and to the extent that we want to [2:28:13] sustain that so the operation is [2:28:16] smoothly um is admirable and is actually [2:28:19] worth considerations. I'm just saying [2:28:21] that 501c3 may not be the only [2:28:25] direction that we're go looking at. [2:28:27] There may be other um ways that we can [2:28:31] help support the event successfully and [2:28:35] you know financially sound. So I would [2:28:37] implore that we also explore on those [2:28:40] area. I I also caution the area of [2:28:43] looking at the 40 bay woods and and all [2:28:46] the other um and also the town complex [2:28:49] in that same scope because again I I [2:28:52] think that the residents may have a [2:28:53] different perspective as to what belongs [2:28:56] to the town, what is their tax dollars [2:29:00] go to and what are the nonprofit [2:29:02] consider. So with that in mind, I think [2:29:05] that we want to consider not just [2:29:08] focusing on the 501c, but also the other [2:29:11] options that may come through [2:29:13] >> and we can perhaps have a more in-depth [2:29:15] discussion on funding for these issues [2:29:17] and have open up some study group of [2:29:19] some sort. Okay, sounds good. We can [2:29:21] move. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Vice Mayor [2:29:22] Rexdale. [2:29:24] >> Or other issue. Okay, go ahead. You may. [2:29:26] Yeah. um on on this issue. I I [2:29:30] appreciate everything that's been [2:29:31] brought up and and hope that all of [2:29:33] those things are um looked into with [2:29:35] 501c3 or otherwise and um great [2:29:39] expertise on um on council and obviously [2:29:43] with BBK. So I think we're we're in good [2:29:45] hands to figure out the all of all of [2:29:47] these things. Um I just had a few things [2:29:51] to potentially add. Um two are um I mean [2:29:56] things that I think we are working on [2:29:58] but to our quality of life but also [2:30:00] safety. One is um ebike education and [2:30:05] enforcement. Um I know we're working on [2:30:07] that. Great partnership between HPD and [2:30:10] the schools and and we had the fantastic [2:30:12] presentation last month um by assistant [2:30:15] city manager. I just want to make sure [2:30:16] we capture that as something we're [2:30:19] working on. Um, and then something that [2:30:22] I know we've been contacted about as [2:30:24] council is the um cancer rates in town [2:30:28] among the um kids. Uh, which may or may [2:30:32] not be related to pesticides or maybe [2:30:35] something else, maybe coincidence, maybe [2:30:37] not. Um, so just something to um to keep [2:30:41] in mind and especially in terms of [2:30:45] recommending that people don't use [2:30:48] pesticides [2:30:49] um uh just like we don't in town. Um [2:30:54] and then uh the last thing is uh back to [2:30:58] quality of just quality of life. Um, we [2:31:01] had been talking about our our [2:31:03] subcommittee with the ordinance [2:31:04] revisions for events and also um, [2:31:08] business licenses. I just want to make [2:31:10] sure we have that um, captured. I know [2:31:12] we're still working on it. Thank you. [2:31:14] >> Okay. Um, so on item we're moving to [2:31:17] item D. Is that correct, Mandy? [2:31:20] >> Oh, are we done with item C? [2:31:22] >> Through the mayor, if I may, I just [2:31:23] wanted to offer additional clarification [2:31:25] about the toen clerk topic. You are [2:31:27] absolutely correct that the agreement [2:31:29] approved in October fully encompassed [2:31:32] phase one and phase two. I think the [2:31:34] part that I was making confusing is that [2:31:37] there was language added to the [2:31:39] agreement um to clarify that the [2:31:42] consultant wouldn't move on to phase two [2:31:45] without first coming back to the council [2:31:47] to present phase one and the council [2:31:49] authorizing them to move forward. But [2:31:51] the agreement fully encompassed those [2:31:53] phases. So I apologize for the [2:31:55] confusion. [2:31:55] >> Okay. Thank you for that clarification. [2:31:57] Okay. Um [2:32:00] we can proceed to item D, ensure [2:32:03] long-term financial security. [2:32:05] >> Yes. Thank you. [2:32:08] » So none of this is possible without the [2:32:11] long-term financial security. Um [2:32:13] beginning with the implementation of the [2:32:14] water and sewer rates and this outlines [2:32:16] that 218 process. [2:32:20] The second key project is the [2:32:21] implementing the recommendations from [2:32:23] the long-term financial funding which [2:32:24] Jan um went over regarding the building [2:32:27] and planning fee study, the tax polling [2:32:30] measure process, and then the general [2:32:32] fund policies um to support replenishing [2:32:35] reserves um and making sure that the [2:32:38] town stays in good financial footing [2:32:40] moving forward. [2:32:41] The third key project is implementing [2:32:44] systems, processes, and training. So not [2:32:46] only for the town but also also for [2:32:48] CCFD. Uh this represents a very large [2:32:51] amount as you can see on the chart. [2:32:53] Amount of staff time is um actually we [2:32:57] had the town has just rolled out their [2:32:59] own financial system so they know how hard it is and they get to relive it [2:33:04] for a second time um with CCFD. Um and [2:33:07] so knowing what is coming forward and how much staff time that takes um [2:33:11] that that will be coming forth and it's [2:33:13] really something that yes we need to do [2:33:16] um but it is going to take a lot of [2:33:18] staff effort and so being mindful of [2:33:20] that um that t tax on finance staff um [2:33:24] as we move forward throughout the other [2:33:26] goals that that may rely on their [2:33:28] expertise as well. [2:33:32] Um before before we move on to um I'm [2:33:37] sorry, are you done with item D in terms [2:33:39] of the presentation? Yes. Okay. Um I I [2:33:42] do have several questions and what you [2:33:44] just finished off on. So I will ask my [2:33:46] questions um now um regarding the [2:33:52] CCFD financial system implementation. [2:33:56] It says the system is paid for by CCFD [2:33:59] and the town staff time to implement. [2:34:03] Could you just clarify what that means? [2:34:09] So, Central County Fire Department is a [2:34:12] completely separate financial entity and [2:34:15] the town finance staff uh manages the [2:34:19] overall finances for uh Central County [2:34:23] Fire on a fee for service basis. [2:34:25] basically. Um, and so right now we do [2:34:28] our core work which is all the [2:34:30] accounting, the ACT for the audit, [2:34:34] supporting the budget process, making [2:34:36] sure the policies are in place. So kind [2:34:37] of the standard, you know, everyday [2:34:40] things. And then in addition to that, [2:34:43] the Central County Fire Department [2:34:45] financial system provider is sunsetting [2:34:48] that system as of December. And so we [2:34:51] are faced with needing to replace that [2:34:54] system. So, Central County Fire [2:34:57] Department, it's their financial [2:34:59] responsibility to buy that system, but [2:35:02] it's the town finance staff [2:35:05] responsibility [2:35:06] to select that system, going through an [2:35:09] RFP, doing the due diligence, um, [2:35:13] putting together the agreement. um that [2:35:16] becomes the software for service [2:35:18] agreement and then implementing that so [2:35:21] that it's a live general ledger accounts [2:35:23] payable accounts receivable system that [2:35:26] will be used starting in roughly [2:35:28] sometime between January and April of [2:35:31] next year. So it's town finance staff uh [2:35:35] primarily rich and my time. [2:35:38] >> Will it require additional time [2:35:40] overtime? Uh I mean what what would be [2:35:43] the impact financially on finance [2:35:45] department from a time hours cost [2:35:49] perspective? [2:35:50] >> It's absorbed within our time. So it [2:35:53] just uh to what Mandy was saying it just [2:35:55] is additional time on our plate. [2:36:00] >> Is there is there the possibility of us [2:36:02] recouping the cost of that from CCFD's [2:36:05] budget? Well, I think as I mentioned [2:36:08] earlier, uh we are currently with a an [2:36:10] RFP, I believe it's with Matrix is the [2:36:13] name of the company that's doing not [2:36:14] only review of the governance of CCFD, [2:36:17] uh but we'll also be looking into the [2:36:18] cost sharing portion of it. And I know [2:36:20] right now um that our finance department [2:36:24] uh is having increasing amount of work [2:36:27] being asked for them to do especially [2:36:28] during anou year when we were [2:36:30] negotiating with them and now with this [2:36:32] new implementation I believe it 77,000 a [2:36:36] year or whatever uh we get from CCFD uh [2:36:40] doesn't come close to covering that that [2:36:42] staff's time. So I think that'll be uh [2:36:45] looked at as we move forward. And also [2:36:46] if C if there is a governance change in [2:36:48] CCFD then they they should have a do it [2:36:51] with uh eyes wide open on what the [2:36:55] aspect of that might be for them [2:36:56] handling their own finances. Um, so I [2:36:59] think all those things are going to kind [2:37:00] of be looked at and I will say that uh [2:37:02] in working with Chief Pooie uh he is [2:37:05] very aware and dealing with our our [2:37:07] partners over in Berlingame all parties [2:37:09] are aware that the the what is being [2:37:11] asked of Hillsboro finance is beyond uh [2:37:14] what they're being compensated for. So [2:37:16] at the end of this study, if everything [2:37:18] were to stay the same, I think all [2:37:20] parties are in agreement that there [2:37:21] would be a greater uh fiscal [2:37:24] contribution uh towards uh Hillsboro for [2:37:27] the financial services they're providing [2:37:29] for the overtime of uh Jan and Rich if [2:37:32] they got overtime, which they don't. But [2:37:35] it is quite a bit of work that they're [2:37:37] putting into that. So it it's not [2:37:39] something that goes unnoticed by us. And [2:37:41] I think even our partners are saying [2:37:42] like what we're asking finance to do is [2:37:44] really more than we're paying them to [2:37:46] do. So trying to shear that up. [2:37:48] >> Yeah. Is it something that you envision [2:37:50] potentially even needing a part-time [2:37:52] like half FTE staff to help you do if [2:37:56] you're not able to execute it and carry [2:37:58] out your main work obligations? [2:38:03] » Potentially. [2:38:04] >> We will contemplate that if it's needed. [2:38:06] Um, but we're [2:38:09] freshly off of the town finance system [2:38:12] implementation, so we're very dialed in [2:38:14] on how to do this. So, we will be as [2:38:16] efficient as we can be [2:38:18] >> and we'll leverage whatever resources we [2:38:20] can from CCFD. [2:38:22] >> Um, and if if something else is needed, [2:38:25] we'll we'll let you know. [2:38:26] >> Well, thank you. It's very important [2:38:28] work and thanks again for all the work [2:38:30] you've been doing. Just a reminder based [2:38:31] on the funding currently of the the way [2:38:33] the JPA works if we do bring on [2:38:35] additional staff or additional items [2:38:37] again that's a portion of that is also [2:38:40] absorbed by us [2:38:41] >> right as a town entity. Um so it's kind [2:38:44] of something you have to get an [2:38:45] agreement with all your partner cities [2:38:47] and then present to the fire board. Um, [2:38:49] and this is one of those issues where I [2:38:51] when I do speak to the fire board, it's [2:38:53] one that the fire board needs to be very [2:38:56] well aware of so that they can bring [2:38:58] back to their respective councils [2:38:59] because it is a decision that affects [2:39:01] the finance of whatever city uh the fire [2:39:04] board members are on if that makes [2:39:05] sense. [2:39:06] >> Correct. Yeah. Thank you. Any additional [2:39:08] questions from the council? [2:39:10] >> Yes. Um, council member Tron, [2:39:12] >> uh, I I just want to add another flavor [2:39:14] to it and that is the whole idea of the [2:39:17] fire services being merged by Berling [2:39:19] game and Hillsboro is exactly because [2:39:22] there's a share cost that we can reduce [2:39:25] and and so in this case we have the [2:39:28] financing instead of uh the from the [2:39:31] Berling game or her Hillsboro or [2:39:34] additional creating another finance [2:39:36] departments for central county. I think [2:39:38] that in this case um you know we have [2:39:42] Hillsboro finance department to thank [2:39:44] for uh for Jan to spearhead it in that. [2:39:48] So that does cut down the cost. Uh that [2:39:51] being said I think that you also uh are [2:39:53] in a position a driving seats position [2:39:55] to select the type of system that is [2:39:59] going to be going into the [2:40:00] implementations at central county. [2:40:02] Correct. And that is much needed. [2:40:04] Correct. [2:40:06] >> Yes. All right. So I I I do think that [2:40:09] we we it it is a it is it is a JPA um [2:40:14] that we're collectively uh sharing some [2:40:17] of the positions to cut down the cost [2:40:20] but at the same time we also realize [2:40:22] that many of these are personnel and so [2:40:24] the cost is going to go up as we move [2:40:27] forward with it and so um I think that's where we're looking at uh in [2:40:33] terms of currently whether we'll need to [2:40:35] change the sort of the dynamic of the [2:40:38] three the two agencies ver I mean the [2:40:42] one agencies with Hillsboro Berling game [2:40:44] and then you know providing contractual [2:40:46] services to Milbury. [2:40:51] » Um yes council member Adams. [2:40:53] >> Uh thank you mayor madame mayor. Uh I [2:40:55] have a question about support tax [2:40:58] polling measure process and it may be [2:41:01] that uh because the status and notes are [2:41:06] written with pending results at the end [2:41:09] instead of at the beginning but uh we [2:41:15] have already approved the survey but are [2:41:19] you saying that we also need to approve [2:41:23] management of the consultant? I would [2:41:25] suspect we've already done that part. [2:41:28] And is the 122,900 [2:41:31] in addition? Okay. Sorry. [2:41:34] >> No, sorry, that's a bit confusing. [2:41:37] That's what was already approved by [2:41:38] council. [2:41:40] >> Thank you. [2:41:41] >> Okay, seeing no additional comments from [2:41:44] the council, we'll move on to item E. [2:41:51] Okay. Um item E is uh similar language [2:41:54] improve transparency, efficiency and [2:41:56] customer service. And so this is [2:41:58] implement programs and software to [2:42:00] improve internal efficiencies. So this [2:42:02] is the agenda management system that [2:42:04] city clerk Lucish spoke about. um the IT [2:42:08] strategic plan which um administrative [2:42:10] services manager William Lee can provide [2:42:12] specific detail um onto that effort, but [2:42:15] that's really getting at uh safeguarding [2:42:17] the town's systems um and and working [2:42:21] with our IT provider on rolling out some [2:42:23] of those key projects to protect to [2:42:25] protect us from uh losing power or [2:42:28] outages um and security moving forward. [2:42:32] Uh, one of the new new legislative um [2:42:35] requirements is that the town move from [2:42:38] A.NET to A.ca.gov [2:42:42] web domain. Um, so that requires [2:42:45] updating business cards. Um, our [2:42:49] website, town communications. Uh, the [2:42:52] fortunate thing is that everybody's [2:42:54] doing this. So, we're not alone. Every [2:42:56] town is making this this switch at one [2:42:58] time. And some have opted to go with [2:43:00] the.gov [2:43:01] Um, and we've gotten input from our CCAC [2:43:04] to dodo the.ca.gov. [2:43:07] Um, our office assistant Katie gets [2:43:09] calls about Hillsboro, Florida, [2:43:10] Hillsboro, Oregon. So, this will [2:43:12] hopefully help cut down on those those [2:43:15] calls um at public works and at town [2:43:17] hall. Um, and then implement that comm [2:43:21] uh building and planning permit [2:43:23] software. There's a lot of [2:43:24] configurations. There's a lot of things [2:43:26] that it can do. So really taking [2:43:27] advantage of that full suite of [2:43:29] offerings. [2:43:30] Uh the second project is reviewing the [2:43:32] city council handbook. So this is a [2:43:35] document that has been in existence I [2:43:38] think um Lisa found a version from 2006. [2:43:41] So it's been in place for um a long time [2:43:45] and it has documented current [2:43:47] procedures, some Brown Act information [2:43:49] that's been updated over the years uh [2:43:52] responsibilities for council members and [2:43:54] it's provided to new council members. uh [2:43:57] but it's never been formally adopted by [2:43:59] the city council. And so what we'd be [2:44:01] looking to do is look at that handbook, [2:44:04] see um what's in there. Um having a [2:44:07] discussion with the full council on [2:44:09] things like mayor rotation um and again [2:44:13] the roles and responsibilities. And it [2:44:15] could also be helpful for prospective [2:44:17] council members looking at um whether or [2:44:20] not they want to run to see what what [2:44:22] they'd be signing up for um and have [2:44:23] that document approved at a council [2:44:25] level. And so that would be a staff [2:44:26] effort and also largely a city council [2:44:29] effort. Um so I should have put city [2:44:31] council and the departments involved [2:44:33] there. Um but working on updating that [2:44:35] handbook. [2:44:37] Um and then the last one is um an [2:44:39] internal sort of uh employee requested [2:44:41] to evaluate feasibility of paid family [2:44:43] leave program. This is something that [2:44:45] we've seen in other jurisdictions. Um [2:44:48] kind of some some agencies moving to [2:44:50] some version of paid leave. Um right now [2:44:54] depending on the bargaining group um [2:44:56] there's um SDI or um unpaid FMLA. So it [2:45:01] would be looking at what other [2:45:02] jurisdictions offer and exploring [2:45:04] whether or not that would be something [2:45:06] that the town uh wishes to do in the [2:45:08] future. And so um that's an internal [2:45:11] research project. Um we would evaluate [2:45:13] the uh anticipated costs and present it [2:45:16] to council for consideration um at some [2:45:18] point in the future. [2:45:21] Um, could you just clarify? You said [2:45:23] unpaid FMLA. I thought obviously I'm [2:45:26] mistaken that there was a state mandate [2:45:28] that some of that FMLA must be paid. Is [2:45:31] that not the case? [2:45:33] >> Uh, no. FMLA is unpaid. Um, and there [2:45:36] are some units in the town that pay into [2:45:40] state disability and so they get some uh [2:45:43] not all uh payback through uh through [2:45:46] that program but not all bargaining [2:45:48] units participate in that. Um, and so [2:45:51] this in there's a pilot program from [2:45:54] Foster City um where they looked at [2:45:57] doing a partially paid family leave for [2:46:00] basically all reasons that would be [2:46:02] covered under FMLA. So, it's not just um [2:46:06] pregnancy or a new child. It would be [2:46:08] anything that's covered under FMLA is [2:46:09] covered under their it's called a I [2:46:11] think it's called care program. Um and [2:46:14] so because Foster City is doing this [2:46:15] pilot, it's been a big talk in the HR [2:46:18] world for Sano County as well as the the [2:46:20] Bay Area. [2:46:24] » Okay. Um any further questions along [2:46:27] those lines? Okay. Yes. Um Council [2:46:30] Member Council Member Adams. Yes. Um, [2:46:32] one thing about the uh transition [2:46:35] toca.gov. [2:46:38] Um, at the League of California Cities, [2:46:41] I talked with a city that had gone [2:46:43] through this and their prediction was [2:46:45] that it takes of a full year largely [2:46:48] because of a review by the state of [2:46:52] every aspect and they would submit an [2:46:54] aspect and it would take a couple of [2:46:56] months to get back. So, this is going to [2:46:59] be a big project and I would recommend [2:47:03] that we make sure we have enough funding [2:47:07] uh to maybe get a consultant to help us [2:47:10] go through this because this is going to [2:47:12] be much more than advertised. [2:47:18] » Uh, thanks for that information. [2:47:19] Appreciate it. Yes. Um, Vice Mayor [2:47:21] Rexdale, [2:47:23] >> thank you. Um, all right. I have to [2:47:25] switch switch the glasses. Um, so with [2:47:29] regard to the family paid leave, uh, [2:47:32] thank you so much for looking into this. [2:47:34] Um, as we've mentioned before, up here [2:47:37] we're all moms and four of us are [2:47:39] grandmothers. Um, and, uh, I think it's [2:47:43] super important to, um, support that. [2:47:46] And I think it also would really help [2:47:47] with uh recruiting and retention which [2:47:50] is worth you know so much so much you [2:47:54] could can't even quantify how much uh [2:47:56] recruiting and retention is worth. So um [2:47:58] thank you for following that uh how [2:48:01] that's going in Foster City. Um, and uh, [2:48:04] with regard to the council handbook, um, [2:48:07] I think it's a great idea to add to it, [2:48:10] update it, um, and maybe have a [2:48:14] subcommittee of, um, two council members [2:48:17] who are who it won't affect, who um, [2:48:19] maybe are not going to run again or [2:48:22] something to um, you know, who have been [2:48:26] mayor and that kind of thing, I think [2:48:28] would be um, would be helpful. And then [2:48:30] of course we would all appine because we [2:48:32] love to do that. Thank you. [2:48:34] >> Yeah. Thanks for those suggestions. [2:48:35] Yeah. Um [2:48:39] any additional questions to item E [2:48:41] before we ask for public comment. [2:48:45] >> Yes. Council member Schwang. [2:48:46] >> Thank you. Um I just want to uh kind of [2:48:49] bring to attention that uh when it comes [2:48:51] to the transition to CA.gov [2:48:54] web domain um the effort from the staff [2:48:58] is is is noted as small and um council [2:49:02] member Adam just said that otherwise and [2:49:05] so I just want to kind of bring this uh [2:49:08] to sort of a uh medium to make sure that [2:49:12] we did reflect the effort of the staff [2:49:15] and that it is not a huge undertaking [2:49:20] albeit mandated yeah so [2:49:22] >> okay thank you we will that's the last [2:49:26] I'm sorry council member Adams you have [2:49:27] a question your comments Just a comment [2:49:29] um in the I really think it's a great [2:49:32] idea to review the city council handbook [2:49:35] and uh I would want to make sure that uh [2:49:38] we make it something particularly for [2:49:41] new council members. So I'd like to [2:49:44] volunteer on that. But that it also um [2:49:47] in addition to the legal aspects of the [2:49:51] council membership, some handy hints, [2:49:54] some things that experienced voices can [2:49:57] be quoted and helpful in helping uh not [2:50:03] just council members who've been [2:50:05] elected, but people who are [2:50:06] contemplating running. It's really [2:50:09] important. Okay, those are some good [2:50:10] comments and and you know I I think we [2:50:13] can we're going to have the opportunity [2:50:14] to come back and and comments and [2:50:17] discuss and promote some of these [2:50:19] subjects. Okay, you you can go ahead and [2:50:21] add to that. [2:50:22] >> I just want to quickly add to what [2:50:23] council member Adams said. So, this has [2:50:24] kind of been on my radar screen for a [2:50:26] while. So, I actually have interviewed [2:50:28] some former mayors and gotten feedback. [2:50:30] And if you remember, I asked this uh [2:50:32] city clerk last year to ask people to [2:50:35] send their comments or so. So so we have [2:50:38] started to collect some of that [2:50:40] information. I would love to be able to [2:50:42] yeah um help that inform. [2:50:43] >> Thank you. Um [2:50:46] so let's get public comments and we're [2:50:48] going to come back and try to have a [2:50:50] little bit of a discussion before we [2:50:51] prioritize our choices. Um do we have [2:50:54] any public comments on any of these [2:50:55] issues? [2:50:56] >> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Yes, Dr. [2:50:59] Weineberg, would you like to provide [2:51:00] comments? [2:51:09] » Thank you very much. Um, one quick in [2:51:13] June, our two chipping projects are from [2:51:16] the 8th to tw to the 12th and the 22nd [2:51:19] to the um 26th. That's 10 working days. [2:51:24] We're going to be doing about 1437 [2:51:28] additional homes. And I have a lovely [2:51:31] map here that I'll be happy to show. The [2:51:35] white areas are the areas that have not [2:51:38] been shipped and will include everything [2:51:41] else in Hillsboro. So, we'll finally get [2:51:45] that chip off our shoulder. [2:51:50] Maybe we can get um a copy of that as [2:51:52] part of these notes or minutes if anyone [2:51:55] is listening so they can take a look at [2:51:57] that map. [2:51:58] >> It's available for a picture. [2:52:00] >> Yeah. [2:52:01] >> Um then the other point I wanted to [2:52:03] bring up and I may be way outside my [2:52:05] lane. I admit this. Um, [2:52:09] we feel at Firewise that we need a [2:52:12] uniform reference point for defensible [2:52:16] space and building standards [2:52:19] and that is chapter 7 in the state code. [2:52:25] Ideally, [2:52:27] this chapter should be [2:52:30] put into our codes. Now, that's why I [2:52:32] say I'm way outside my lane. [2:52:35] um but not for it to be a mandate [2:52:40] because I'll come to that in just a [2:52:42] moment why but the insurance industry [2:52:45] does [2:52:47] use these codes that the state have plus [2:52:52] and I think we should be uh clear to [2:52:56] them that we are aware [2:52:59] why [2:53:01] the WOOI fortunately was reduced a great [2:53:06] deal in the past year. That's very good [2:53:09] news for Hillsboro. [2:53:11] We have no very high severity, just some [2:53:15] small smidgen of high and some moderate, [2:53:18] about 25 28% of our surface area. [2:53:23] Chapter 7 [2:53:25] would allow these people who are going [2:53:28] to want to do improvements to either [2:53:32] their a whole new home or a major [2:53:36] remodel which under chapter 7 is 25% or [2:53:41] more of the property. [2:53:45] And for those who are doing incremental [2:53:47] changes, [2:53:49] I really by having a reference point, [2:53:52] they'll know what to aim for, especially [2:53:56] from this simple standpoint of return on [2:53:58] investment. I want them to get the kind [2:54:01] of advice they need from the architects, [2:54:04] from the town, um, landscape architects, [2:54:09] etc. so that when they do spend their [2:54:12] hard-earned dollars, they get as close [2:54:14] to that code as possible. [2:54:18] Uh lastly, [2:54:21] um my firewise at a lively internal Z [2:54:25] meeting that we had sent to the town [2:54:28] council that you received a few months [2:54:31] ago now maybe uh the lowhanging fruit [2:54:34] changes we'd like to make sure are [2:54:37] included which were basically about [2:54:40] vents [2:54:42] about having um standards of um for the [2:54:49] class A roofing and covering eaves. But [2:54:53] what I'm asking for here was the other [2:54:55] side of the argument to consider the [2:54:58] standard of the uh uniform um reference [2:55:04] point for which everything would be [2:55:06] included. Thank you. [2:55:08] >> Thank you. Um Dr. Weinberg, appreciate [2:55:10] that. [2:55:11] >> William, I'll I'll I'll bring this map [2:55:13] up to you at some point. [2:55:15] >> I think it's helpful. Um, so we're going [2:55:18] to bring I'm sorry. Do we have [2:55:20] additional comments from the public? [2:55:22] >> No additional comments. Thank you. [2:55:23] >> Okay. And not nothing um remotely on [2:55:26] Zoom. [2:55:29] >> Okay. We'll close public comment and [2:55:31] bring it back to the council and we can [2:55:33] have some discussion before we finalize [2:55:36] our preference. Um [2:55:40] I think [2:55:42] um just I would just make a [2:55:45] clarification question and comment based [2:55:47] on what Dr. Weinberg just um submitted [2:55:51] um with regards to wildfire preparedness [2:55:54] and the building code amendments. I [2:55:56] believe hopefully that's coming to the [2:55:58] council within the next few months in [2:56:00] terms of the amendments adoption or [2:56:02] changes to our MUN code and specifically [2:56:05] it sounds like uh Dr. Weineberg was [2:56:09] commenting or suggesting having a [2:56:11] uniform defensible space class A roof uh [2:56:15] fire resistive vents covering eaves etc. [2:56:19] But those will be discussed at a [2:56:20] different meeting. It's just a heads up [2:56:22] as we move forward in terms of our [2:56:24] priorities at this point. Am I correct [2:56:26] in that? I believe so. Okay. Um, [2:56:33] in terms of additional comments on the [2:56:35] other things, I think we've been [2:56:36] commenting as we went along, but I'm [2:56:37] happy to open it up to my colleagues if [2:56:39] you you want to add anything else we [2:56:41] haven't covered or discussed. Um, Vice [2:56:43] Mayor Ragdale. [2:56:45] >> Um, I only have one. Um, and thank you [2:56:46] for taking our comments all along. I I [2:56:48] think that was uh super helpful, but I [2:56:51] um I missed the boat on one by my own [2:56:54] fault. Um, with regard to PG Genie, I [2:56:57] know P Genie not not great to deal with, [2:57:00] but my power was out two mornings in the [2:57:03] past week. Um, and the communication has [2:57:07] improved. So, I don't know if that's one [2:57:09] tiny little bright spot. Um, and also [2:57:12] where you have to um where you want to [2:57:14] search and enter your address. It used [2:57:17] to be, you know, now your your [2:57:18] internet's out, right? and you're using [2:57:20] the cell coverage, which we know is not [2:57:22] fantastic in certain parts of town. Um, [2:57:25] but now it remembers the last address [2:57:27] you typed in because before you had to [2:57:29] retype in your address and wait and wait. So, um, a tiny little bright [2:57:33] spot. Um, and then clarification with [2:57:36] regard to um, PCE. [2:57:39] uh we are already detached from P Gen in [2:57:42] one respect which is we get your you get [2:57:44] your clean energy most of the town you [2:57:47] get your clean energy from PCE but the [2:57:50] distribution is through PG& um so to the [2:57:54] extent if if we did separate uh which I [2:57:57] don't have an opinion on but if we did [2:58:00] separate um we would need someone else [2:58:03] to provide that distribution and billing [2:58:06] they're they're on the same bill so [2:58:08] that's just little thing to add. [2:58:12] » Thank you, Council Member Crowley. [2:58:18] » Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, I have one [2:58:20] kind of general comment and a couple [2:58:21] comments on things that are in this and [2:58:23] then one suggestion for something to [2:58:25] add. So, general comment, just a great [2:58:28] job organizing and presenting today. I [2:58:31] thought everything was really succinct [2:58:33] and um and I just s between the [2:58:37] volunteer party on Thursday um and then [2:58:40] just seeing and hearing from all of our [2:58:42] staff today, it just I'm so struck by [2:58:46] how it's it's hard to to walk that line [2:58:49] between the personal touch of a small [2:58:51] town and the professional efficiency [2:58:54] that you want. And I really think [2:58:55] Hillsboro does it. And it's because of [2:58:58] the dedication of everybody here and [2:59:01] also the Aspree decor. So I really [2:59:03] appreciate it. It's I think it's a tough [2:59:05] thing to do and I think I think you do [2:59:07] it and I our residents feel that and [2:59:10] appreciate that and I feel it and [2:59:12] appreciate that. So thank you. Um so a [2:59:15] couple comments on the things that are [2:59:17] already in here. Um I I I love and Tim [2:59:22] and Liz know this that we are really [2:59:24] focusing on code enforcement because [2:59:26] it's been we've had a lot of complaints [2:59:28] about projects either how they're [2:59:30] managed or how long they go. So um so [2:59:34] two things I I think the new code [2:59:36] enforcement person will be great and a [2:59:39] great help to building and and I'm just [2:59:41] wondering are there any cost [2:59:43] efficiencies now that it's being taken [2:59:45] out of HPD? Are we saving some money [2:59:48] someplace that it will help to fund this [2:59:50] new staff member? That might be that [2:59:53] might be a question that you look into [2:59:55] or might be something. Um and then um [2:59:58] and this is something that I brought up [3:00:01] before. We do collect some funds from [3:00:05] the projects that run over. Is there, [3:00:08] and this may be a city attorney [3:00:09] question, is there any way that the [3:00:11] neighbors who are impacted who have to [3:00:13] live with this? It's very stressful to [3:00:15] be next door to a building site. I mean, [3:00:18] it affects your life every single day [3:00:20] for years and you get no benefit from [3:00:22] it. You get dust, you get noise, you get [3:00:25] disruption, your peace of mind is [3:00:28] affected. Is there any way that some of [3:00:30] that money that we collect for the [3:00:33] projects that go over can somehow [3:00:35] benefit the neighbors who have had to [3:00:37] live with the effects? So, I'll leave [3:00:39] that to the city attorney. I know we [3:00:40] can't use public funds for private use, [3:00:42] but I think if there was some mechanism [3:00:46] in which we could, you know, we get some [3:00:50] compensation for it that the neighbors [3:00:51] could somehow get compensated. I think [3:00:54] that would help a lot. Honestly, I think [3:00:57] any neighbor that you talk to would [3:00:58] rather the project be finished than get [3:01:01] a dime. But if if that's not happening, [3:01:04] um and uh and one of my colleagues [3:01:08] mentioned uh adaptive reuse of the tank [3:01:11] sites, that's probably a little too [3:01:13] early to put on this year's work program [3:01:15] because I think we're a few years out. [3:01:17] But that's definitely something to start [3:01:19] to use to start to think about like can [3:01:22] we use the tanks themselves for [3:01:23] something or how can we use the sites [3:01:25] that can be on for the future. um under [3:01:29] bike and pedestrian master plan as we're [3:01:31] executing that uh one fallout of our [3:01:34] beautiful streets. I love our streets [3:01:36] and I also think as I said before [3:01:39] everything communicates and our nice [3:01:40] streets communicate something about the [3:01:42] quality of life in Hillsboro. So I think [3:01:44] it's a real benefit to everyone but the [3:01:47] smooth streets do encourage speeding [3:01:49] unfortunately. Um, so as we're looking [3:01:52] at the bike and ma pedestrian master [3:01:54] plan, can we look at ways to mitigate [3:01:57] speeding on some, especially on our wide [3:01:59] straight roads that now are beautifully [3:02:00] paved? And are there any other places [3:02:04] that we could do safe pathways because [3:02:06] they're certainly not sidewalks, [3:02:08] pathways like eucalyptus? Um, because [3:02:11] it's I mean it is it's a great benefit [3:02:14] to be able to walk safely in Hillsboro. [3:02:17] So, um, looking at that and those are my [3:02:20] comments on what we already have and my [3:02:22] comment on something to add. Could we [3:02:24] look at internships with either CC, CSM [3:02:28] or BHS, which I think was also brought [3:02:30] up and I did at Council of Cities talk [3:02:32] to another council member who said they [3:02:34] use interns, free interns for their [3:02:36] foyer requests. So, they said, you know, [3:02:39] these young people are really, really [3:02:40] good at investigating things online and [3:02:43] so they funnel all their foyer requests [3:02:45] to their interns. So, is that something? [3:02:47] And I know um our Rotary Club, which is [3:02:50] now called Rotary Club of Berling Game [3:02:51] in Hillsboro, we support BHS students [3:02:54] through a scholarship program, but they [3:02:56] are always looking for internships. So, [3:02:58] I think if the town of Hillsboro could [3:03:00] even provide one internship to a BHS [3:03:02] program, it would be very warmly [3:03:04] received. Thank you. [3:03:06] >> Um thank you and thanks for your [3:03:08] comments on internships. Um I I I I [3:03:12] agree. I think there's a lot of hidden [3:03:14] talents amongst our young uh students. [3:03:17] Um I assume we will put them through the [3:03:20] privacy um training as far as [3:03:23] information and how to procure and [3:03:25] secure information because a lot of it [3:03:27] will be private information that cannot [3:03:29] be disclosed. So that would be a [3:03:30] critical aspect of of that as well. Um [3:03:35] any you know before I I have some [3:03:37] comments on a few things but I would [3:03:39] like my colleagues if they have Yeah. [3:03:41] Council member Adams you may go ahead. [3:03:45] » Thank you Madame Mayor. Um I wanted to [3:03:48] uh ask if we should be considering other [3:03:52] generators that are in town whether we [3:03:55] need to do an assessment. uh since uh [3:03:58] our police generator was so old. Um I [3:04:02] think the public works one is fairly [3:04:04] new, but if there's one here for the [3:04:06] town, I'd just like to see uh our do an [3:04:10] assessment of where we might need that. [3:04:13] uh the as far as the construction I had [3:04:16] complained about uh the fact that the [3:04:20] neighbors don't get the direct benefit [3:04:22] uh because usually it's their streets [3:04:24] that were torn up in addition to the [3:04:28] fact that they've been uh putting up [3:04:30] with a lot of noise and chaos for a [3:04:33] while. I got a pretty good answer that [3:04:35] in fact there is a rotation for our [3:04:38] streets that can't really be adjusted. [3:04:42] Uh, and it is sad because the people who [3:04:47] could be benefiting from that fee often [3:04:51] don't. So, there might be some other way [3:04:53] to look at that. I want us to also look [3:04:55] at our volunteer recognition. I was so [3:04:58] sad that I wasn't able to attend our [3:05:01] recognition this year. And I'd like for [3:05:04] us to have um a discussion as a council [3:05:08] about how we recognize and recruit our [3:05:10] volunteers just so that this amazing [3:05:15] work that they done that they do is [3:05:18] appropriately recognized and that [3:05:20] they're comfortable and able to attend [3:05:23] and invited to those uh recognition [3:05:27] ceremonies. [3:05:29] And I completely agree with council [3:05:33] member Krill on speeding. I do feel we [3:05:37] need a campaign and I would love to have [3:05:42] uh as I said I'd love to have us be a a [3:05:45] city that is proud about the zen of [3:05:50] driving through our town. And I think [3:05:53] this is a fiveinut [3:05:55] uh problem. Everyone needs to add five [3:05:58] minutes to wherever they're going and [3:06:01] that we tell our construction [3:06:04] contractors we will enforce this and [3:06:08] that we care about the health and safety [3:06:12] of our citizens. And in fact, we view it [3:06:16] as a real benefit that you don't have to [3:06:18] go quite so fast uh to get through our [3:06:22] town. Um, but I also reiterate what [3:06:26] council member Krill said. This was a [3:06:28] great process and so uh very clear and [3:06:34] also uh delivered to us in a timely [3:06:36] fashion. So, thank you. [3:06:38] >> Thank you. Um I um council member [3:06:42] Schwang. [3:06:44] Uh [3:06:45] so I I do like the process of the [3:06:48] presentation of last year's review and [3:06:50] then having the council's comments then [3:06:53] the going forward the 26 27 that the [3:06:56] department has have the comments and [3:06:59] then we are able to chive in to ask [3:07:02] questions and clarify some of the the u [3:07:05] comments because it's really hard to [3:07:07] pack in everything in here. So the [3:07:10] different interpretation I think the [3:07:12] clarification was very helpful. Um I do [3:07:15] want to um add on to the ADRB and in [3:07:18] terms of the residents comments [3:07:19] regarding the constructions. I think you [3:07:22] know the exciting part is that we [3:07:24] continue to have robust constructions in [3:07:26] our town and I know that because I live [3:07:29] in a zone where there are constantly [3:07:32] several houses are big constructions [3:07:35] coming on. Um, so I do understand that [3:07:38] when pedestrians, residents walk by [3:07:41] those houses and find that to be [3:07:43] nuanced, if there's no action going on [3:07:45] or that if there's way too long dragging [3:07:48] on to them, they walk daily. They see [3:07:51] that they see the obstructions of the [3:07:53] fences or the construction trucks. [3:07:57] However, I do think that we need to and [3:07:59] maybe this is a CCF CCAC um you know [3:08:03] newsletters um outreach is to say how [3:08:07] much our directors uh department heads [3:08:11] are so accessible in terms of answering [3:08:14] the questions. like they have questions [3:08:17] but if they talk to you in person they [3:08:19] understand sort of the circumstances as [3:08:22] why it takes so long because every [3:08:25] construction is different and I want to [3:08:28] say but the perception is out there if I [3:08:31] walk by the same construction site and [3:08:34] it's taking forever or if the constru [3:08:37] contractor's trucks and workers trucks [3:08:40] are parked everywhere which I experience [3:08:42] constantly or the violations of the leaf [3:08:45] blowers I experience constantly and at [3:08:49] some point it's really hard to make a [3:08:52] you know make a call to the PD and says [3:08:54] can you come out here and the officers [3:08:57] cannot win it cannot site uh the [3:09:00] contractors or the the perpetrators [3:09:04] without seeing that action taken place. [3:09:08] So those are all things that I think our [3:09:10] resident need to understand it does take [3:09:12] time. Um so um to the extent I think [3:09:15] that the you know to have the [3:09:18] co-efficiency I think is uh important [3:09:21] and we can constantly strive that. I do [3:09:24] know that [3:09:26] in the past uh the the building planning [3:09:30] sent out your inspectors to do spot [3:09:33] check. I wonder if that is still ongoing [3:09:36] because it's not just in this is in [3:09:39] addition to the permit check that you [3:09:42] have to go through but there are spot [3:09:44] check that you come by so that if [3:09:46] contractors or workers are doing things [3:09:49] that are not necessarily [3:09:52] up to code shall we say that you have [3:09:56] the the the the idea that you have spa [3:09:58] checks is going to uh discourage them [3:10:01] from doing things that they are not [3:10:03] supposed to So I wonder if that is [3:10:06] continue to be reinforced and advocate [3:10:09] that is important. Um I do think that [3:10:13] the eBike continue to be a issues. I [3:10:15] think that we need to change the the [3:10:18] wording on that the e throttles. I've [3:10:20] been to several of the uh meetings that [3:10:23] the uh supervisors and the legislators [3:10:26] have put on. Um there's a different uh [3:10:30] distinctions between the e- throttles [3:10:32] versus the ebike. And I think that it is [3:10:34] encompassing upon us to as we move [3:10:37] forward with the literatures to be able [3:10:39] to make the distinctions so that is [3:10:41] clear to our residents so that they [3:10:44] would know the difference. Um and then [3:10:48] you know I I think it is a known fact [3:10:51] that this council support any kind of [3:10:53] reinforcement to keep our population [3:10:56] safe you know be it students or parents. [3:10:59] Um the lastly I'm excited about the um [3:11:05] the pedestrian and the uh psych bicycle [3:11:09] uh master plans. I do think that speed [3:11:12] is continue to be a issues however we do [3:11:15] it. Um we talk about the alamino riale [3:11:19] that there are project that is happening [3:11:21] right now between Berling game and [3:11:24] Samuel. I believe that Milbury will be [3:11:27] next. Those are all great ideas in terms [3:11:32] of the Grand Boulevard scenario. The [3:11:35] reality is that when you're trying to [3:11:37] pack pedestrians, [3:11:39] cyclists, and the drivers all in the [3:11:42] same road, the perspectives are [3:11:44] different. And so we need to really take [3:11:47] a good look at that and to see how [3:11:51] process what kind of process that we're [3:11:54] able to um implement that it will be [3:11:57] effective. So to that um and then I echo [3:12:01] my um council colleagues. It's a great [3:12:05] presentation, a lot of thoughtfulness. [3:12:07] Again, it demonstrate um our staff's uh [3:12:10] professionalism and commitment to serve [3:12:13] our community. So thank you very much. [3:12:19] I just wanted to say also I am in [3:12:21] support of what uh council member [3:12:23] Ragstell had added ebike education [3:12:25] enforcement the use cancer study [3:12:27] pesticide use and the business licenses [3:12:29] and and events. [3:12:32] >> Okay, go ahead. [3:12:32] >> Um yes, Vice Mayor Rexdale. [3:12:35] >> Everyone just has such good ideas and we [3:12:37] all start thinking I like that. I like [3:12:39] that. So, um I was just thinking when [3:12:42] Council Member Adams was talking about [3:12:44] generators, it made me think about when [3:12:46] the power goes out and your neighbors [3:12:48] have generators. Um I'm not saying we [3:12:51] need to regulate them, but just, you [3:12:53] know, when we have on our website, um [3:12:56] helpful hints for people if we could [3:12:59] recommend any generators if they are out [3:13:02] there that aren't quite so loud. Um, [3:13:06] that would be fantastic because the the [3:13:08] ones in use, at least in my [3:13:10] neighborhood, are, you know, the power's [3:13:12] out before you click your light. You you [3:13:14] hear the generators coming in every [3:13:15] direction. So, if there are ones that we [3:13:17] could, you know, point people to, um, I [3:13:20] think I think that would be Yeah, there [3:13:22] we go. I think that would be great. Um, [3:13:24] the volunteer recognition event was [3:13:26] amazing, but we miss you terribly. Um, [3:13:30] and yeah, I think it's great to to talk [3:13:32] about um how we recognize um that that [3:13:36] event was lovely and I would love to [3:13:38] replicate that in the future. And um but [3:13:41] recruiting, it's it's great to um think [3:13:44] of different ways to get the word out [3:13:45] beyond people that that we know. Um and [3:13:49] then I am all for a campaign regarding [3:13:52] speeding. Um and I love the, you know, [3:13:55] add five minutes to your day. Hey, [3:13:57] you've already got the slogan there. Um, [3:14:00] and uh I would just add to that um [3:14:04] stopping at stop signs just, you know, [3:14:07] they're not they're not suggestions. [3:14:08] They are they're there for a reason. [3:14:10] Thank you. [3:14:12] >> Okay. Thank you. Um those are all um um [3:14:16] great additions. Um I as I look at this, [3:14:19] I was just trying to see how we can [3:14:21] efficiently prioritize. [3:14:24] Um it sounds like we we love all [3:14:26] everything you've put forth, but we [3:14:28] can't we don't have Jen just told us we [3:14:31] don't have like limitless funds to just [3:14:33] spend whatever money we want. So my [3:14:35] question is there are a few items here [3:14:37] that I was wondering if we could put [3:14:40] aside as exceptions. for example, [3:14:43] budgeted needed zero dollars and staff [3:14:47] effort was small. Can those I mean [3:14:50] sounds like these are basically in [3:14:52] progress being done for we can start [3:14:54] with the um on a item a is that's what's [3:14:59] up. Okay. Item A2 [3:15:02] um that one is slated as this is the [3:15:08] prep. [3:15:11] Yeah. [3:15:12] Um, repair wildfire preparedness [3:15:14] building code. I mean, it says zero [3:15:17] dollars, small effort. Can we just sort [3:15:19] of make exceptions to those and not have [3:15:21] us rank this because I'm not sure how [3:15:23] we're going to do the ranking? I was [3:15:25] just going to ask if we can put if it's [3:15:27] zero dollars and small effort, if we [3:15:29] could just exclude those and put them to [3:15:31] the side because it's getting done [3:15:33] anyways and it's not, we don't have to [3:15:36] contemplate financial impact. Is is that [3:15:39] something we can do? Yeah, certainly. I [3:15:41] mean, the whole list, the goal was to [3:15:43] get agreement um to make sure that the [3:15:46] list is correct and we I've taken notes [3:15:48] on the additions um which it sounds like [3:15:50] there's consensus in bringing those [3:15:51] forward. Um what I can do is I can put [3:15:56] the revision to this, which is the [3:15:58] summary slide. It doesn't have the [3:16:00] specific details on it. Um I can have [3:16:02] William put up the revised list. And [3:16:04] what we've done in past years is um not [3:16:07] last year uh is each council member can [3:16:09] give their top three or five um [3:16:12] priorities so that we know which sort of [3:16:14] areas to focus on first. Um but the plan [3:16:18] was to get consensus on the full list, [3:16:19] but it sounds like we've already done [3:16:20] that so we're ahead of schedule. [3:16:22] >> Yeah. So and and before you confirm that [3:16:24] I probably should have gotten some [3:16:25] consensus from my um colleagues. What I [3:16:28] was suggesting is items that are not [3:16:31] going to impact the budget as of now [3:16:33] based on the projections and have a [3:16:35] small require small staffing effort to [3:16:38] put those aside. Meaning it's almost a [3:16:40] done deal. It's in the pipe works. It's [3:16:42] going to be done and just prioritize [3:16:44] some of the more challenging um um items [3:16:48] in terms of our ranking because [3:16:50] otherwise we have 18 items [3:16:52] and I already have 10 that I would like [3:16:54] to see it on. So we'll probably what is [3:16:57] the number that you were going to [3:16:58] recommend? Five or four [3:17:01] >> through the mayor. [3:17:03] >> Yeah. Wait, let me just hear from the [3:17:04] staff. [3:17:04] >> I I think the focus what we're showing [3:17:06] you here is just all in and it does feel [3:17:09] like is this the the total breath of the [3:17:12] entire list. This is all the things that [3:17:13] the department heads and commissioners [3:17:15] had agreed upon and some of the issues [3:17:16] that are coming forward from each year. [3:17:19] If we got consensus on all this, this [3:17:21] is, you know, if any of this falls into [3:17:24] a feasibility issue where we're going to [3:17:26] run into a fiscal issue or a staff time [3:17:28] issue or something like that, that's [3:17:30] when the second phase of this comes into [3:17:32] play where we come back to you and tell [3:17:34] you, you know, for example, like item A4 [3:17:37] there, uh these are the this will be the [3:17:40] fiscal impact. This is our [3:17:41] recommendation. You'll be getting those [3:17:43] specifics at a council meeting. Now, if [3:17:45] we come forward and something, you know, [3:17:47] un unforeseen happens and we have a [3:17:48] fiscal issue, then that would be the [3:17:51] time that we would decide perhaps this [3:17:53] issue is something we can put off till [3:17:55] another year. But everything you're [3:17:56] seeing right here, we're going to [3:17:58] attempt to make within our bandwidth. I [3:18:00] think the the goal would be is if [3:18:03] there's things here that you feel like [3:18:05] this is where your time and effort [3:18:07] should be invested first, then those [3:18:09] would be the the kind of the the task [3:18:11] that we would try to tackle. But the [3:18:13] goal here is to tackle everything that's [3:18:15] on this list. [3:18:16] >> Oh, okay. So, we get to have everything [3:18:17] basically. [3:18:18] >> Yes. You get it all. [3:18:19] >> Okay. Gotcha. [3:18:20] >> Okay. That's a lot better. Um, yeah. [3:18:23] Through the mayor. [3:18:23] >> Yeah. I think that's good. [3:18:24] >> I I think that that's what I was going [3:18:26] for is that I do believe that our uh [3:18:30] staff have the competency and knows [3:18:33] where they're at in terms of what's on [3:18:35] their plate in terms of the prior [3:18:38] prioritizations of all these tasks. I [3:18:41] think that unless the council have any [3:18:44] issues regarding any of the items that [3:18:46] we think that can be table or that is [3:18:49] not really our priorities that should be [3:18:51] known. I've been to other um uh workshop [3:18:55] where you you prioritize three but [3:18:58] there's like more and and so it's always [3:19:00] a tough uh situation and plus I think [3:19:03] that you know the the notion that the [3:19:05] commissioner has spoken to the [3:19:06] department heads the department heads [3:19:08] have gone through within their [3:19:09] departments in terms of the projects I [3:19:11] think we respect that aspect of it and [3:19:14] give us the comfort that we know should [3:19:16] there be any issues you have the [3:19:18] confidence and we have the confidence [3:19:21] and trust us that you're going to bring [3:19:22] it back to us for discussion. [3:19:24] >> Um, so having said that, let me then [3:19:27] make a few comments on things that do [3:19:29] have don't have a [3:19:32] number or amount estimated and small [3:19:34] effort. Um, I I do feel strongly that we [3:19:37] should explore um paid family leave for [3:19:41] um staff and evaluate the physibility of [3:19:43] that. I think it is critical to um the [3:19:46] culture of not just the workplace but [3:19:48] the whole community. So that's something [3:19:51] I would like for um the t the staff to [3:19:54] continue to explore and see how that can [3:19:56] be done and bring it back to the council [3:19:57] at a later time. Um but in general I [3:20:00] think we've all talked about um all [3:20:04] these issues we all all in on all of [3:20:06] them with regards to um current [3:20:10] procedures and responsibilities for [3:20:12] council members and provide updates and [3:20:14] adopt I agree a subcommittee but I think [3:20:17] the subcommittee should be someone who [3:20:20] is not um currently running to be on the [3:20:23] city council. I think it's an inherent [3:20:25] bias or someone who is not going to be [3:20:27] running very soon to be on the city [3:20:28] council. So, I think um we we can do a [3:20:32] subcommittee and report back to the [3:20:33] council for approval in terms of what's [3:20:36] um established. And I at this um I I'm [3:20:40] inclined [3:20:42] to appoint myself and council member [3:20:45] Krik to do this. I just [3:20:48] >> I'd like to do is um we normally like to [3:20:50] agendaize the formation of a [3:20:51] subcommittee as a topic on an agenda. So [3:20:53] the public can comment and then council [3:20:55] can have a discussion about it with the [3:20:56] public there. Okay. [3:20:57] >> So I'd recommend waiting to point the [3:20:59] subcommittee, but staff can bring back [3:21:01] an agenda item at your regular meeting [3:21:02] for that purpose. [3:21:03] >> So this will come back to the council [3:21:05] then. Okay. Great. And with regards to [3:21:08] the um transitioning to ca.gov [3:21:12] web domain. I appreciate the comments [3:21:14] from council member Adams in terms of [3:21:17] being sober about how long this could [3:21:19] take and planning appropriately. it [3:21:21] could be very frustrating not only for [3:21:23] the residents but especially for the [3:21:24] city council members as well who are [3:21:26] using the domain to get work done or [3:21:29] communicate. So just we may even need [3:21:32] some um workshop or education as we make [3:21:36] the transition if we were to go that [3:21:38] route because that could be impactful. [3:21:40] Yeah. [3:21:43] and and again it looks like we may end [3:21:48] up needing a subcommittee regarding a [3:21:50] 501c potentially as was discussed and [3:21:53] that's still there lots of other option [3:21:55] maybe we don't do a 501c maybe we do we [3:21:57] can explore that after we get some [3:21:59] feedback from legal counsel is that the [3:22:01] understanding okay [3:22:04] and um I think those are all my comments [3:22:07] on the items but I like the idea that we [3:22:09] get to have everything [3:22:13] Go ahead. Yeah, council member Adams. [3:22:15] >> I love getting everything too and I am [3:22:18] totally suspect of something that says [3:22:21] zero budget needed because even the ones [3:22:25] that are here uh implement educational [3:22:29] resources that could take some money. Uh [3:22:33] another small and zero execute 40 [3:22:37] Baywood agreement that could take some [3:22:39] money. So, I think all of this will [3:22:42] unfold, but what a great uh menu you've [3:22:48] given us and we really appreciate it. [3:22:50] >> Yeah. And I really want to thank Mandy, [3:22:53] special applause for her. This was [3:22:54] outstanding. We love this format. It was [3:22:57] extremely useful in terms of the [3:22:59] discussion, very deliberative [3:23:00] discussion. And I want to thank my [3:23:02] colleagues for a very enlightening and [3:23:04] informative discussion this morning, [3:23:06] afternoon. Um and of course to the staff [3:23:10] and department heads. You guys um really [3:23:13] are running a great town and we're very [3:23:15] grateful and we're extremely thankful. [3:23:17] Thank you so much. And and with that [3:23:19] said, unless there's anything else to [3:23:21] add, I will now um this meeting is now [3:23:24] adjourned. Thank you.