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Good afternoon. The Hillsboro City

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Council meeting is now called to order.

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City clerk, may we please have the roll

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call.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole Adams

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>> present. Schwang present. Crow

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>> Ragdale present. Cole

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>> present.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Um we will be adjoining to um close

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session in a few minutes. However, do

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any of my council members have a

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conflict of interest they need to

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disclose on any of the closed session

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items?

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Seeing none, I will announce the closed

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session items. We have several. Item a

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conference with litig with legal council

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existing litigation town of Hillsboro

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versus all persons interested in a

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matter of the proceedings for resolution

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number 22-83 adopting maximum rates for

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water service charges San Mateo Superior

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Court case number 23 CIV028.

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Item B, conference with legal counsel,

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anticipated litigation.

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Town as defendant, one potential case.

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John Lochins and David Marquette's March

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5th, 2026 email suggesting that the town

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will be sued on a new potential

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two-tiered rate water structure.

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Email available upon request to the city

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clerk and the town's receipt of object

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objection letters. Item C, conference

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with legal council. Anticipated

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litigation pursuant to government code.

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Item D, conference with legal council.

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Existing litigation,

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county of San Monteo, town of Hillsboro

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at all versus State of California, San

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Francisco Superior Court. Case number

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CFP-25-519270.

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Lawsuit regarding vehicle license fees.

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Item E, public employee performance

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evaluation

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title city manager. Item F, Congress

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with lab, I'm sorry, conference with

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labor negotiators, unrepresented

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employee, city manager. Item G, public

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employee performance evaluation, city

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attorney.

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I believe those are all.

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Do we have any public comment on the

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close session items?

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>> No public comment. Thank you.

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>> Great. Seeing none, we will now adjourn

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to close session in administrative

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conference room

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and the regular city council meeting

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will resume at 6 pm. Thank you.

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Good evening everyone and um welcome to

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the Hillsboro City Council meeting which

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is now called to order. Um city clerk,

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may we please have the roll call.

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>> Thank you. Mayor Cole Adams

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>> present. Schwang

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>> present. Crow

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>> present. Braxdale present. Cole

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>> Thank you.

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>> Um please join me and stand for pledge

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of allegiance.

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Um, we just returned from our close

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session and I will ask our city attorney

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Diaz, is there a report from close

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session? Thank you, Mayor Cole. Just

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wanted to announce for the public that

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the council did convene a close session

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a little earlier today uh to consider a

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variety of items. At the conclusion of

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that, direction was given to staff, but

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otherwise there was no reportable action

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under the Brown Act. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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We have several We're going to be

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starting with several proclamations

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today. Noteworthy ones. They're all

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noteworthy, but these are some very

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special ones for the month of June. We

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will start with the um pride month for

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June 2026.

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And I would like to um invite we have

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here I believe San Mateo LGBTQIA

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and Commissioner David Crafts to the

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podium to receive the proclamation.

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And we will and I would like to invite

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the council to share the reading of the

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proclamation.

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Starting with council member Chuang.

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>> Thank you. Uh whereas the town of

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Hillsboro honors the history of the

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LGBTQ

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IA plus liberation

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movement and supports the rights of all

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individuals to experience equality and

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freedom from discrimination. And

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>> whereas all human beings are born free

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and equal in dignity and rights, LGBTQIA

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plus individuals have had immeasurable

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impact on and made noteworthy

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contributions to the cultural, civic,

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and economic successes of our country.

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>> whereas the town of Hillsboro is

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committed to supporting visibility,

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dignity, and equality for LGBTQIA

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plus people in our diverse community.

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>> whereas while society at large

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increasingly supports LGBTQIA plus

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equality, it is essential to acknowledge

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that the need for education and

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awareness remains vital to end

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discrimination and prejudice. And

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>> whereas this nation was founded on the

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principle that every individual has

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infinite dignity and worth and the city

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council calls upon the community to

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embrace this principle and work to

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eliminate prejudice everywhere it

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exists. And

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>> whereas celebrating Prime Month

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influences awareness and provides

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support and advocacy for the LGBTQIA+

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community and is an opportunity to take

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action and engage in dialogue to

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strengthen alliances, build acceptance,

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and advance equal rights. And whereas

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the city council of the town of

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Hillsboro recognizes all LGBTQIA+

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individuals whose influential and

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lasting contributions help make the town

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of Hillsboro a vibrant community. Now

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therefore be it resolved that the city

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council of the town of Hillsboro hereby

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proclaims the month of June 2026

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as pride month in support of the LGBTQIA

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plus community. signed by me, Sophie

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Cole, Mayor June 8th, 2026. Thank you.

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And um before I present this

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proclamation, I would welcome you to

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make any additional comments on um this

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proclamation and the work you do in the

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community.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Thank you,

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council members. I'll try to keep it

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brief. I know you've had a long

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afternoon and have a long evening ahead

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of you. Uh on behalf of the San Monteo

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plus commission and the communities that

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we represent, thank you for this

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proclamation recognizing June as Pride

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Month in our city. While a proclamation

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is just a piece of paper, its meaning

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reaches far beyond these walls. It's a

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public declaration that every resident,

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employee, and guest deserves dignity,

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respect, and the opportunity to live

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authentically. It tells people,

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especially those who may feel unseen or

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unwelcome in Hillsboro, that they belong

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Pride Month has deep roots in our

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region. Long before many Americans had

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heard the word pride, transgender women,

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drag queens, and other LGBTQI

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plus people in San Francisco stood up

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against harassment and discrimination

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during the 1966

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Compton's Cafeteria uprising in the

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Tenderloin. This was one of the first

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known acts of collective LGBTQ

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resistance in the United States.

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A little more than a decade later, San

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Francisco artist Gilbert Baker created

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the rainbow flag, a symbol that would

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become recognized around the world as a

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beacon of hope, visibility, and

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belonging. The story of pride has always

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been about courage and courage still

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matters.

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However, 60 years later, after this the

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uprising in the tenderloin, the US

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continues to see unprecedented numbers

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of bills targeting LGBTQ people,

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particularly transgender youth and

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adults. At the same time, immigrants,

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communities of color, religious

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minorities, and other groups are pushed

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to the margins and facing renewed

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challenges.

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That's why this proclamation matters.

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It's a symbol which can shape culture.

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It affirms that our community values

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inclusion over exclusion, understanding

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over fear, and unity over div division.

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So, thank you for recognizing Pride

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Month. Thank you for honoring the legacy

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of those who fought for equality before

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us. From the patrons of Compton's

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Cafeteria to Harvey Milt to the

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countless advocates, activists, and

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allies who helped build a more inclusive

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Bay Area. Thank you

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>> and thanks for sharing that with us. And

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I would like to u remind everyone that

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um tomorrow we actually will be hosting

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the third annual Pride event, a town

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hall June 9th um at 4 p.m. hosted by the

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Hillsboro Youth Commission. And please

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feel free to join us for that event.

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Thank you so much for being here and um

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this means a lot to me personally. I'm

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very blessed to have a son and

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son-in-law and a same-sex marriage who

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have blessed us with the most beautiful

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grandchild. Um, and I'm really grateful

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that my son grew up here in Hillsboro

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with um, openly gay teacher at North and

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another one at Crocker, Alec McKenzie,

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who is this year's community care award

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winner. And it's just a just a wonderful

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inclusive community and I feel very

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blessed that this is where my son grew

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up. So, thank you very much for the work

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that you do. Thank you.

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So our next proclamation is um

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Junth which is June 19th 2026 and again

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the city council will read this

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proclamation

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starting with council member Adams.

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Whereas President Abraham Lincoln signed

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the Emancipation Proclamation on January

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1st, 1863,

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declaring slaves in Confederate

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territory free, paving the way for

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passing of the 13th Amendment, which

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formally abolished slavery in the United

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States of America. hand.

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>> Whereas on June 19th, 1865, Union

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soldiers led by Major General Gordon

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Granger arrived at Galveastston, Texas

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with news that the Civil War had ended.

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>> whereas the first Junth celebration was

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held in Texas in 1866

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and continues to be celebrated each year

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in communities across the United States,

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providing an opportunity to mark the

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emancipation of enslaved people. And

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whereas on June 17th, 2021, Junth

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officially became the 11th federal

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holiday, the first new holiday to be

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added to the list of federal holidays

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since the recognition of Reverend Dr.

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Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday in

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1983. And whereas on this day, people of

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all races, nationalities, and religions

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join together to acknowledge and

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understand the stories of black American

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history and the centuries of hope and

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courage amidst struggles and

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inequalities, to honor and reflect on

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the significant role that black

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the United States, and celebrate the

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continuous

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uh contribution black Americans make to

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enrich our society.

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>> Now therefore, be it resolved that the

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city council of the town of Hillsboro

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does hereby recognize June 19th, 2026

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as Junth and encourages all citizens to

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explore this important celebration of

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African-American culture, history, and

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pride. signed Mayor Sophie Cole a June

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8th, 2026.

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Thank you.

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We have one more proclamation. We cover

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all the bases. This one I will read is

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National Mosquito Control Awareness

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Week. Yes, mosquitoes. How we manage

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mosquitoes are important. Um let's see.

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Do we have any um Oh, yes. I would like

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to invite San Monteo County Mosquito and

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Vector Control District Board member Dr.

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Scott is here with us. Uh Scott Smith

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and District Manager Brian Weber to the

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podium to receive the proclamation. Let

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me um read the proclamation. Um whereas

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mosquitoes spread diseases such as West

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Nile virus reduce enjoyment of outdoor

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recreation and hinder outdoor work. And

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whereas the San Monteo County Mosquito

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and Vector Control District works to

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safeguard the health and comfort of

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people in San Monteo County through a

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science-based program of integrated

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vector management.

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And whereas surveillance and control of

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mosquitoes is critical to reduce public

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health risk of mosquito-born diseases.

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And whereas National Mosquito Control

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Awareness Week aims to increase public

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awareness encourage the public to take

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action in preventing mosquito

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transmitted diseases and highlight the

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activities of various mosquito and

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vector research and control agencies

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working to minimize mosquito related

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health threats. And whereas public

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awareness and cooperation are critical

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to effective mosquito and vector control

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in San Mato County and throughout

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California. Now therefore be it resolved

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that the city council of the town of

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Hillsboro hereby proclaims the week of

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June 21st to 27th, 2026 as National

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Mosquito Control Awareness Week signed

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by me, Mayor Cole on June 8th, 2026.

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And thank you um uh Dr. Smith and your

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district manager. Um we're so honored

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for the work you do in the community and

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we're thankful. I would encourage you to

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make any comments um any updates you

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have for us on this very important

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issue.

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>> Sure. Thank you, Dr. Mayor Sophie Cole

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having us. Is there a a this is my

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briefest slid set so don't worry it'll

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be okay.

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>> When public health works, you don't

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really know it. And so I think we

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haven't suffered too many mosquito bites

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recently and that's because Brian Weber,

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district manager here, is uh working

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hard with a crew of people to ensure

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that we're protected from a lot of

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vectorbor diseases and uncomfortable

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vectors. So I'm just going to kind of do

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a really brief infomercial so that you

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know what it is and how to access the

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services that you actually pay for with

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a parcel tax on all of your property.

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Next slide.

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Oh, I have it. Oh, I'm in control.

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Really? So, our work, it starts with

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mosquitoes. That's how we were founded

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more than a hundred years ago, uh,

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because of the discomfort caused by the

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mosquitoes coming off of the bay. So,

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now we manage with mosquito fish. We

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also have expanded to other things like

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ticks that can transmit Lyme disease.

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Rodents, as you will see in a moment,

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are an issue even in Hillsboro. I'll

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have you know, where humans are, rats

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live. Uh, our biggest call, however, is

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yellow jackets recently, but we also do

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a fair amount of community education and

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disease surveillance, which is, as we

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know in these times, important. So, this

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in Hillsboro is a snapshot of what

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you've called on us to do as the

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district to respond to. Uh, there have

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been 246 service requests and actually

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1,400 site inspections which means going

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by and making sure that there are no

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mosquitoes for example in the drainage

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basins and that sort of thing and then

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uh you can see yellow jackets in yellow

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there are fair number of requests here

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in Hillsboro because of yellow jackets

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and the good news in the bottom right

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corner there zero west Nile cases and

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that remember is a mosquito disease so

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thank you Brian things are working. Um,

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so related to mosquitoes is our birds

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and uh therefore if you see a dead bird

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we want you to report it and hopefully

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you remember uh westnile.cal

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uh.gov or uh WV Westnile virus bird uh

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that's the number to call and I think we

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had one request. I went running and saw

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a dead bird called uh but that uh is

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important so that we know if there's

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transmission or risk going on. Other

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things to prevent mosquitoes just

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dumping water in your backyard, making

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sure that uh there aren't uh um you know

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water sources for mosquito breeding. And

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we do do surveillance as well in our

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town to ensure no disease is being

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transmitted. This is my original chicken

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house with two chickens called and

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they're known as Samantha and Eloise

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collectively Sam and Ella which could be

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other diseases.

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But I have upgraded about 10 years ago

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to this giant Hillsboro mansion of a

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chicken house. Thank you, Brian, for

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helping construct this because of a West

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Nile case uh in my neighborhood. The

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case wasn't a human, it was a squirrel.

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But that's concerning because it could

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get into us and put us at risk. And so

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they came and bled the chickens and

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surveiled to see. And the good news is

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that they didn't find any West Nile on

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these happy chickens. And let's see if

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the laser works. Oh no. Says on their

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water they're drinking the Kool-Aid.

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Let's do this. So they're getting bled.

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Here's my happy wife collecting the eggs

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every day. Um, last slide. There is an

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open house June 27th. Please come and

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see the hard work that Brian and his big

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team do. Uh, and there'll be a lot of

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learning and uh, you can see the giant

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tools and hovercraft and things that

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they use in order to keep us safe from

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insects.

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And uh, one last comment, this picture

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of a lizard uh, two different lizards

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actually that have ticks. You can see on

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the side, those ticks are transmitting

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much less Lyme disease because the

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lizards clear it using a chemical in their blood that

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eliminates lime. And that's why on the

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West Coast compared to the East Coast,

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we have a lot less lime. Isn't that

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cool? So anyway, that will conclude my

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remarks. And if there are any questions,

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hard questions, Brian Weber

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here.

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Well, that's a great update. I I do have

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questions, but I'll ask my colleagues to

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go first if they have any questions for

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Dr. Smith or um District Manager Weber.

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>> I think that the work you do is great

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and uh the only thing I quarrel with is

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the uh illustration of a giant water

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jug. Eggs can be laid in very small

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saucers, which you do mention, but I

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think everyone should go scouting in

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their home to see any standing water.

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It's their own self-prevention. So,

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thank you.

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Good point. Any additional questions?

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Um, my question Oh, I'm sorry. Um, Vice

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Mayor Rexdale,

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>> not a question. Uh, just thank you so

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much for representing Hillsboro on this

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board. I I don't know, are we up to a

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couple decades now and for a long time

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and, uh, greatly appreciate this work

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and everyone should go to the open house

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because you will learn so much and you

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will really enjoy it.

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>> Yeah. Um, I have a quick question. Are

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there any specific vegetation or plants

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or trees or bushes that could mitigate

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um, mosquitoes around that that do you

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know of? Have you?

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>> That's a good question. I'm not aware of

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any. I mean, the areamein is the plant

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that they grow in order to use as an

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antimmalarial, but it doesn't make

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mosquitoes go away. And cutting grass

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used to be back in the day a 100 years

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ago a thing to do in order to mitigate

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mosquito transmitted diseases but we

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don't do that anymore. So I would defer

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to the expert.

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Yeah, there isn't much scientific proof

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that particular plants, you will see

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advertisements of plant this, get rid of

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mosquitoes when you're scrolling on

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different social media platforms, but

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there really isn't any scientific

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evidence that there's success of uh

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eliminating or reducing mosquitoes on

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your property with vegetation.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, thanks for that

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clarification and um I and again I I

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will present this uh proclamation, but

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first let me also thank you for the work

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you're doing in the community and

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working to keep us healthy and much

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appreciated. I will come down and

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present this to you.

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>> Thank you. I once had a resident ask me

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why we allowed rats in Hillsboro.

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» They don't read the signs.

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Okay. Um so the next item on our agenda

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is um a presentation from our partners

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and colleagues here PG&E enhanced power

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line safety settings EPSS and I would

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like to invite Marjorie Ruiz Sidalgo

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local government affairs at PG&E to the

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podium and she's there. Hello Marjorie

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>> Dr. Cole thank you for having us here

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tonight. Good evening Dr. Cole, Vice

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Mayor, members of city staff and the

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public. Good evening. I we're so

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thrilled to be here tonight. I am joined

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actually by our daily operations

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specialist, my colleague Jake Day. He

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and I together serve all of San Monteo

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County, affectionately referred to as

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the Peninsula Division internally. And

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so we're thrilled to be with you today

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to talk about our number one priority

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and topic, safety. Am I echoing?

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No, I hear an echo. Okay.

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So, every day at P Gen, we start each

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meeting with a safety message. And in

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that spirit, I have one prepared for you

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tonight. Being prepared is critical

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during an emergency, but it is not the

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time to prepare. And so, we suggest a

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disaster supply kit with food, water,

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medications, and emergency contacts. All

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of this can make a real difference when

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it matters most. For more information

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and ideas, you can learn more at

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pgen.comsafetyaction

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center.

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Where we're going tonight, so we're

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going to be identifying and reducing

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wildfire risk as a topic. We're going to

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take a deeper dive into enhanced power

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line safety settings. We refer to them

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as EPSS. And then we'll have time at the

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00:24:51,760 --> 00:25:00,149
end for a Q&A.

550
00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:02,400
So, as you can see from this map, more

551
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,480
than 50% or more than half of our

552
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,039
service area or P gen service territory

553
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,679
is considered high fire risk. And for P

554
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,080
Gen, that means we need to be laser

555
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,000
focused on safety for customers and

556
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,679
communities. And we use this map to help

557
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:17,440
target our wild safety efforts in the

558
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,279
areas that need the most. Now,

559
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,679
fortunately, the town of Hillsboro is

560
00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:24,400
not considered high fire risk. And so

561
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,919
with that context in mind, I'm going to

562
00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:27,440
walk you through our layers of wildfire

563
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,440
protection, which are designed to reduce

564
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,240
wildfire risk and protect our customers.

565
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,400
Layers of wildfire protection. So you'll

566
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,400
recall that the last time I was here, I

567
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,960
introduced the P Genie reported app and

568
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,799
mentioned our safety toolkit. I

569
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,360
mentioned cameras, drones, and and

570
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,960
safety patrols. But today, I want to

571
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,919
expand on that topic. So at P Gen, we

572
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:53,919
evaluate wildfire risk each year and we

573
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:55,679
focus our safety efforts in the highest

574
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:57,919
risk areas, but we use this approach

575
00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:00,240
enterprisewide and we use multiple

576
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,000
layers of protection to reduce wildfire

577
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,400
risk and protect communities. Now this

578
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,120
approach includes situational awareness

579
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,600
which allows us to predict, monitor and

580
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480
respond in real time. An example of this

581
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,080
would be I mentioned cameras last time

582
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,360
so this time I want to mention our

583
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,559
in-house meteorology team. All of this,

584
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,000
all of their information, which comes

585
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,039
out twice a day, prepares me to keep San

586
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:24,400
Mateo County, including the town of

587
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,120
Hillsboro, prepared with notifications

588
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,919
during winter storms, and I know Mandy

589
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:31,520
and Doug have received those during the

590
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,159
winter. We also have operational

591
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:37,440
mitigations like EPSS to make the system

592
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,840
safer every day. And as part of our

593
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240
long-term resiliency, we also include

594
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720
stronger poles, covered lines, and

595
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,880
undergrounding. So half of Hillsboro has

596
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,200
been undergrounded thankfully. We also

597
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,960
manage vegetation and we increase

598
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,120
inspections and clearances in high fire

599
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,840
risk areas. And these three layers work

600
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,760
together because no single solution is

601
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,640
enough. They work together

602
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,919
to mitigate wildfire risk. You can learn

603
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:07,120
more at pg.comwfires

604
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,799
safety progress. I'm going to include

605
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,320
a map at the end of this presentation

606
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,440
that we can take a deeper dive into.

607
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,960
EPSS. So EPSS stands for enhanced power

608
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,640
line safety settings and these are

609
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,880
advanced protective settings that live

610
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,360
on the on the line that make the

611
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:26,960
electric system more sensitive to

612
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440
potential hazards by automatically

613
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,279
shutting off power in fractions of a

614
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:32,880
second. I believe it's an eighth of a

615
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,640
second within an eighth of a second when

616
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,279
a threat is detected to help prevent

617
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:43,510
power line related wildfire ignitions.

618
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
So this is the process here. Safety

619
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,640
settings turn off power quickly when a

620
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,320
wildfire hazard like the tree branch

621
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,919
that you see in the graphic is detected

622
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:54,000
on the power line. After the power is

623
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,399
shut off, our crews are dispatched and

624
00:27:56,399 --> 00:27:58,559
will patrol the power line to find and

625
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,240
fix the issue before we're allowed to

626
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,679
restore energy once it's safe to do so.

627
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:06,080
But we don't stop there. These patrols

628
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,399
also inform the system improvement work

629
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,399
we do to prevent similar hazards from

630
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:13,039
causing future outages. We constantly

631
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,200
monitor wildfire conditions to determine

632
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,799
when to turn on EPSS settings. So EPSS

633
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,480
settings have been enabled as of the

634
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,360
first week of May in San Monteo County.

635
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,279
To turn safety settings on, we examined

636
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,520
a few things. We examined wildfire risk

637
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240
conditions such as low humidity,

638
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,799
dry fuel like dead leaves or grass, and

639
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,320
great wind speeds. We consider these three ingredients to be the

640
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440
ingredients for wildfire. EPSS since its

641
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,279
installation has been a proven wildfire

642
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,080
prevention tool since 2021 and EPSS

643
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200
safety settings have reduced ignitions

644
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,279
by about 70% in high fire risk areas. So

645
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,440
it works.

646
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Simply put, these settings work at

647
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120
stopping wildfires before they even have

648
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,110
a chance to start.

649
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,640
Now,

650
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320
we absolutely recognize the

651
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,120
inconvenience of losing power and as a

652
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,320
result, it's our priority to keep

653
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,919
customers informed in the event of a

654
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:14,480
safety outage. Since the power turns off

655
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,320
quickly due to the potential safety

656
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,799
hazard, advanced notification is not

657
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:20,559
possible, right? The the line turns

658
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,240
itself off within an eighth of a second.

659
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,760
So, there's no time to notify, but there

660
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,919
is time to keep people safe, thankfully.

661
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:27,919
However, we are able to provide

662
00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:30,080
customers with updates during and

663
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,520
following an outage through their

664
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,240
preferred contact method. This includes

665
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,360
texts, emails, and/or automated calls.

666
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200
We also keep customers informed

667
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,720
throughout the event and include an

668
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,360
estimated time of restoration. Once

669
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,279
power is restored, we will also send a

670
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,360
notification to confirm power is back on

671
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
along with information on the co cause

672
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,279
of the outage if it is available. We

673
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,840
have not always been able to follow up

674
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,240
with cause in the past, but we do have a

675
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,159
dedicated team that is currently working

676
00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:01,919
on developing and improving this

677
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:07,269
communication system.

678
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:09,279
It's important to note that PG is only

679
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,200
able to communicate with customers based

680
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,440
on communication preferences. So

681
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,200
customers can see a step-by-step guide

682
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,880
on how to update their preferred contact

683
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,679
method by scanning this QR code or by

684
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,399
visiting pen.compreferences

685
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:24,880
guide. So customers need to log on into

686
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,039
their personal P Genie account and they

687
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:28,559
need to decide if they'd like to be

688
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,919
notified via email, via text, phone

689
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:35,600
call, or all of the above.

690
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,909
Going to come back to that.

691
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:42,080
Now, this is the map that I referred to

692
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000
a few minutes ago. So, for more

693
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,080
information on work taking place in your

694
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,840
area, we have an interactive map that's

695
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,159
available online that lets you see

696
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,320
exactly where reliability work is taking

697
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,320
place on power lines serving you. And

698
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,720
this progress map can be accessed by

699
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,870
visiting pen.com/progressmap.

700
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,480
And you can see your area. You can click

701
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,320
on it in real time. It's quite

702
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,799
interactive. My nephews love playing

703
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:13,510
with it.

704
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,520
This is a bit more of an in-depth data

705
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,120
slide. So on this slide you can see the

706
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200
work that we completed in 2025 as well

707
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,919
as actions that we are taking in 2026.

708
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:23,600
Our goal is to provide you with power

709
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,679
that is both safe and reliable. And so

710
00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:28,320
to do that we must keep these EPSS

711
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,559
safety settings enabled on your power

712
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,200
lines when wild risk when wildfire risk

713
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,320
is high to protect you from catastrophe.

714
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,080
However, we have other things in our

715
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
toolkit that we're also using. This

716
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,159
includes monitoring safety settings

717
00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:45,120
daily. So, we monitor those EPSS

718
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,519
settings around the clock. We also

719
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,279
complete reliability improvement work in

720
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:50,960
communities like yours to prevent future

721
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,039
outages. And so, this year, we plan to

722
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:54,720
prevent more outages by doing work,

723
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360
including completing 1500 animal

724
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
mitigations, which Jay can speak to in a

725
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,440
little bit. And we will also do work to

726
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,360
reduce the number of customers impacted

727
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,919
if an outage occurs, including replacing

728
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:08,640
or installing 104 sectionalization

729
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
devices that divide the area

730
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,440
to help reduce the number of people that

731
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,039
live that experience the outage on the

732
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,919
line. There are about nine circuits that

733
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:20,640
feed the town of Hillsboro and about

734
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,600
four of them are EPSS enabled. So not

735
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600
all of them, but what is that math?

736
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,240
About 40% 40 to 50

737
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,360
And this has been a

738
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,760
an a high level examination of EPSS

739
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,679
settings. Um we'd love to take your

740
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,360
questions now if you have any. Thank

741
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:39,679
you.

742
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,640
>> Um thanks for the presentation. Um do

743
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
any of my colleagues have any clarifying

744
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200
questions or comments. Um Council Member

745
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,039
Chang,

746
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,880
>> thank you so much for your presentation.

747
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,760
Really appreciate it. Always welcome. Uh

748
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,760
and my question is that you know when

749
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960
you first rolled out the PSPS

750
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,159
uh you know that there was a lot of

751
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:05,200
confusions for the residents they're not

752
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,279
expecting any wind but somehow their

753
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,080
power got shut off in this EPSS

754
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,880
do you have sort of a automatic trigger

755
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,039
or is there something because you said

756
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,679
it's cut off 1/8 of a second obviously

757
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:22,480
there are criterias that you operate on

758
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Could you walk us through a little bit

759
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,200
on that?

760
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,559
>> Sure. So, I'll start high level and then

761
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,480
I'll hand it off to Jake. So, PS, it's

762
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720
important to remember that PSPS

763
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,519
is proactive. Our meteorology team

764
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,279
internally is looking at weather

765
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,760
conditions. They're looking at humidity,

766
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,840
fuel on the ground, which you know, dry

767
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,440
leaves, things like that. And we

768
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,159
proactively turn the power off in order

769
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:47,120
to prevent any wildfires. EPSS allows us

770
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,080
to keep the lines on and those EPSS

771
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,279
devices live on the line and what it did

772
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,600
and because they are enabled during fire

773
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,679
season. So EPSS was just enabled the

774
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:00,240
first week of May your four circuits

775
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,080
that have an EPSS devices on them are

776
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,760
enabled as soon as they detect something

777
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,559
on the line that is foreign to the line

778
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,480
it immediately shuts down. Do you want

779
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,480
to walk them through what happens?

780
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,359
>> So thank you again council for having us

781
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:16,720
here. So we have um the distinction. So

782
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,879
PSPS I know Pen is full of acronyms.

783
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:24,159
It's a it's a problem internally too but

784
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:28,480
PSPS is um power safe public safety

785
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,800
power shut off. So that's we actually

786
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,480
have an event going on right now. It

787
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200
doesn't affect Sanonteo County but um

788
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,359
preparing for one. That's when we know

789
00:34:37,359 --> 00:34:38,560
there's going to be something like the

790
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,440
Diablo winds coming through with high um

791
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
high heat, low humidity, similar to the

792
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,720
settings that enable us or kind of

793
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:50,159
trigger us to enable EPSS. But PSPS is

794
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,480
something that we basically staff an

795
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,320
emergency room to kind of prepare for

796
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,760
and let everyone know ahead of time.

797
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,280
We're going to turn this power off when

798
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,320
this high wind event happens. EPSS what

799
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,320
we're presenting on today is actually

800
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,000
the um settings that it's a technology

801
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,119
we developed about five years ago and

802
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,560
implemented in 2022 approximately and

803
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,160
those settings basically

804
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960
are they're turned on actually daily. Um

805
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,119
we are in the season but people monitor

806
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,960
it daily on whether or not they need to

807
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,800
turn on or not um per circuit. So

808
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640
there's teams overnight that do that.

809
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,119
But to answer um your question, I

810
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,800
understand the confusion between the two

811
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,320
for sure with the two acronyms. But EPSS

812
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960
u is

813
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,760
there are ways to

814
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,960
it doesn't always mean there's going to

815
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,560
be an outage of course, but it means

816
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,480
there's more sensitivity towards one

817
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,240
happening because normally if a branch

818
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,680
falls on a line without EPSS settings on

819
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560
there's a check. Basically, it we send a

820
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,800
signal three times to see if one device

821
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,400
can communicate with another and if it

822
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,320
can't happen after it three times, then

823
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,119
it turns off. EPSS turns that off. And

824
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,640
basically, the first time something's

825
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,119
detected, it's off. And the three checks

826
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,280
happen within a couple seconds. With

827
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,400
EPSS on, it's less than a second. So, it

828
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,800
just makes it more sensitive. And yeah,

829
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,480
that's I hope I answered your question.

830
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,230
If not, please repeat.

831
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,400
» One more question. Thank you. Um and

832
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,680
that is uh the E e uh the EPSS once it's

833
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,240
turned off uh does it come back on

834
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,560
automatically or it requires human to go

835
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,160
physically check the line and then be

836
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,400
able to turn it back on. So it does take

837
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,960
time.

838
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040
>> That's correct. Human line human human

839
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,079
lines human eyes must check the line

840
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,400
before we are allowed to restore energy.

841
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640
So, and those you just have to patrol

842
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,480
the line and depending on the length of

843
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,760
the line will dictate the length of the

844
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,200
patrol and the estimated time of

845
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,240
restoration.

846
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,359
>> Yeah. And I I'll elaborate as well. Um

847
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:02,960
for

848
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,960
when EPSS is not on, we can try and turn

849
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000
it on remotely if we know that that high

850
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
that higher elevated fire risk is not

851
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,720
present. Um, but when it is on, it means

852
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,320
there's a higher chance that if

853
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,839
something's still on the line and we try

854
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:21,760
to turn it on, it sparks. Not good. So,

855
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,920
when we when we patrol during EPSS

856
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,400
season, we have to patrol the entirety

857
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,400
of the line. Sometimes they would maybe

858
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400
try and restore sections at a time

859
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,599
before, but with EPSS, can't do that.

860
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:34,800
You got to patrol the whole line, make

861
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,640
sure it's safe, and then so sometimes

862
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,320
the outages can last a little longer.

863
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,800
But that actually goes back to uh this

864
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,040
slide, the sectionalizing devices, which

865
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,839
I wanted to speak on a little more. Um

866
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:48,160
for the sectionalizing devices, one

867
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,240
thing we're doing to mitigate the impact

868
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,480
of EPSS and granted this is a new

869
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,320
technology. We're the first to develop

870
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,079
it, we're implementing it all over the

871
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,200
place down in um Hawaii, over in Hawaii.

872
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,720
Well, we're consulting with those

873
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:04,160
utilities, but um who have asked. But

874
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,240
anyways, for the sectionalizing devices,

875
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,119
we've learned it's really difficult at

876
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:10,560
it was really difficult at first because

877
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,160
these devices have to talk to one

878
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,320
another. But as we're getting better

879
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,160
with it, we're trying to put more in so

880
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,000
that say a tree branch falls on this

881
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640
section, only that section's taken out,

882
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560
not the whole line. And that's something

883
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,800
that is just taking time. But we we are

884
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,480
implementing devices constantly. I know

885
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,880
we have a couple going in in health. So

886
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,200
it's a it's a it's a

887
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,000
>> the Sorry. Thank you. It's it's a

888
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,520
developing process.

889
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,560
>> So, yeah.

890
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,520
>> Thank you.

891
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,200
>> Um, Councilman Acrylic,

892
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,280
>> you thank you. Um, so I have a

893
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440
three-part question. So, my street,

894
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,160
which is Bailey Road, a pole failed and

895
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,160
went down on Christmas Eve. You may

896
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,560
recall this incident.

897
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,560
>> Yeah. Um, so my question is, um, what is

898
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,680
the inspection protocol? If someone

899
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,400
notices a poll that seems to not be in

900
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,119
good shape, what is their reporting?

901
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,640
uh process and once a poll is reported,

902
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,400
how long does it take you to come out

903
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,160
and take a look at that poll?

904
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,440
>> Council member, thank you for that

905
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,599
question. So, depending on the condition

906
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,000
of the poll

907
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,920
will depend on how quickly we can get

908
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,359
out there. So, I will give you an

909
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:21,680
example. If an inspector is out there

910
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,280
and he sees, oh, this pole should

911
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,119
probably be changed. It's not quite an

912
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,599
emergency, but it's it's it can wait

913
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,440
about a month, then we will quickly file

914
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
that permit. we will work with the city

915
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,119
or whatever town we're in. In this case,

916
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:34,240
it would be the town of Holsboro, and

917
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,520
we'll say, "Hey, we're come, we're

918
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,240
sending in this application, and it

919
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:39,520
really comes down to the permitting

920
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200
process. If it's not an urgent pull, if

921
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
it is a we have to go right now pull,

922
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,320
it's considered an A tag, then it it

923
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000
happens immediately as emergency work

924
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,520
and then we file the after the-act

925
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,280
permit. But it depends on the condition

926
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,359
of the poll and what that permitting

927
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,359
process is within each jurisdiction." Do

928
00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:58,240
you want to elaborate?

929
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,960
>> Yeah. So, we have a poll test that when

930
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
that's triggered, if someone reports

931
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,839
something, we'll send someone out within

932
00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:04,560
usually about a week.

933
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,760
>> Can you get closer to the mic because

934
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,200
there's some people online that want to

935
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:07,920
hear it? Yeah,

936
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,040
>> thank you. Um, so we have a if

937
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,079
something's reported through the

938
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:13,839
reported app like Marjorie shared last

939
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:16,480
time. Um, depending on just initial

940
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640
visual analysis, they'll send someone

941
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,720
out anytime within a couple days to a

942
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,560
week usually is when someone will go

943
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
out. Uh it's worth mentioning that our

944
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,920
inspection timeline for each overhead

945
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,720
asset is about they get in-depth

946
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,960
inspected once every five years, but

947
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,320
typically they're at least looked at

948
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,359
once a year. Um and that in-depth

949
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:41,520
inspection is a pole test where they'll plug like a little device in the

950
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,240
pole. They'll let smoke come through and

951
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,440
um it'll kind of show any signs of

952
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,040
dilapidation within the pole. So that's

953
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,200
typically how that works. Once the

954
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,040
inspector's there within that week, they

955
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,520
they'll either perform that test or if

956
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
and if they again like if they see it's

957
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,599
hey this says yeah this is at 50% we

958
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,079
need to go now. That's kind of how that

959
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,400
acts. But it's all basically determinant

960
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,880
on what that current condition is.

961
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,720
>> And if a resident is concerned about a

962
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,560
poll, what's the process for them to

963
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,440
report that?

964
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,280
>> They can either call it in to the main

965
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,880
line. They can use that reported app.

966
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,280
Um, if you go to PGE reported app, you

967
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,119
can either just report it online or

968
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:22,800
there's an app that they can physically

969
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,200
use. But yeah, if they call it in even

970
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,440
to the main line, a case is created for

971
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,240
someone in the local offices to review.

972
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,480
So, as long as they basically um notify

973
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640
us,

974
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,800
>> I've got all county. So,

975
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,599
>> and that number is 18000.

976
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:42,720
If you don't want to use the app, you

977
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,720
can always call it in.

978
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,119
>> Thank you, J. Yeah. Thank you both. Um,

979
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,319
con I'm sorry, Vice Mayor Rexdale.

980
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,280
>> Thank you. Um, a couple things. One, uh,

981
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,560
the app is fantastic, the report it app,

982
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,119
and you can go on and see your

983
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,680
neighborhood and and see that other

984
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,520
things have been reported you you might

985
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,359
not have known about. So, um, and then

986
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:06,720
it shows the resolution.

987
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:07,119
>> Yep.

988
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,400
>> So, um, anyway, highly recommend. Um, I

989
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,760
had a clarification question on the, um,

990
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,000
EPSS. So you said in May it it's

991
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,240
activated but every day it may or may

992
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,400
not be activated.

993
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040
>> So this year the EPSS devices were

994
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,079
enabled in May and depending on weather

995
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,280
conditions. So these are monitored

996
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,200
around the clock 247 and so depending on

997
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520
the weather conditions we may or may not

998
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,720
turn them off but I don't think we've

999
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:35,920
turned any off.

1000
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,520
>> Um it is no. So

1001
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,240
essentially those devices are not

1002
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,240
enabled.

1003
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,760
were not enabled before May. It's

1004
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440
usually like the winter months that they

1005
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520
turn them off because otherwise when we

1006
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680
have, you know, more constant high

1007
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000
winds, it could trigger more outages

1008
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,240
unnecessarily, but that just enables the

1009
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,480
ability to turn them on if that's Sorry

1010
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,800
if that was confusing. Um, they're still

1011
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,280
monitored every day in terms of like do we need to turn those settings up

1012
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,200
because they it's a it's a tuning thing

1013
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,200
with the settings. They're not standards

1014
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000
set at the same thing. Um there's tiers

1015
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,280
to each wildfire area risk area and the

1016
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,240
higher tiers are basically at a higher

1017
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,000
sensitivity. So that's what I meant.

1018
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,839
Sorry for that confusion.

1019
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:27,599
>> Okay. Thank you. Um and the last thing

1020
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,920
is um a suggestion you were talking

1021
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560
about the communication. Um and I can't

1022
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,520
remember if I mentioned this before, but

1023
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480
um when your power's out then unless you

1024
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
have a backup battery, your internet's

1025
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,720
probably out. And so you're competing

1026
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,520
for sell service, which the coverage in

1027
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,240
town is not that great. Um, so when you

1028
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,720
go on the app because you want to check

1029
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:54,000
on the progress for your property,

1030
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,400
sometimes it remembers

1031
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,319
the address that you just asked about

1032
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:00,640
five minutes ago and sometimes it

1033
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,160
doesn't and you have to go through the

1034
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,800
process of entering it. And so anything

1035
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,960
you can do that it can you know remember

1036
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,960
this device is connected to this address

1037
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,760
or just remember are you asking about

1038
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,520
the last address you asked for because

1039
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160
all I'm asking for is my address ever.

1040
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,560
Um that would be great because it just takes so long when um you're

1041
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,040
just using cell coverage to um search

1042
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,000
that.

1043
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,599
>> Thank you. It took notes.

1044
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,119
>> Thanks for that feedback. Um Council

1045
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:28,160
Member Adams.

1046
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,319
>> Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh thank

1047
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,160
you Marjgery. Welcome back and nice to

1048
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,119
meet you, Jake. Two questions. One is I

1049
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:37,599
wanted to make sure I got the criteria

1050
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:41,119
correctly. Uh low humidity, a lot of

1051
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,400
fuel and winds.

1052
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,319
>> Okay. So when we are aware of those

1053
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:49,200
conditions, we should be on high alert

1054
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,720
that we may be experiencing this ESPS.

1055
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:55,760
Okay.

1056
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,839
>> Second thing is uh this slide

1057
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:00,079
conveniently up here. I'd like to know

1058
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,880
more about providing uh battery and

1059
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,319
gener generator rebates for our citizens

1060
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:09,760
and also uh portable batteries and

1061
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560
portable battery storage. So, if you

1062
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,599
could provide us not now but with how we

1063
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,839
apply and how our citizens can qualify

1064
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:18,960
for that.

1065
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,440
>> Sure, I'd be happy to follow up.

1066
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,920
>> Yeah, thank thanks for those uh

1067
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,240
comments. Uh just one quick followup.

1068
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,000
Um, it sounds like you dial the

1069
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,359
sensitivity up for when it's windy. We

1070
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:33,920
have several thoroughway, especially

1071
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Crystal Springs, where the many of the

1072
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,480
power lines are already crowded with

1073
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,319
branches. And do you have a program to

1074
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:44,240
remove those branches or they not

1075
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,480
considered risk when it gets very windy

1076
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,000
like today for example?

1077
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
>> Crystal Springs Road.

1078
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,880
is one example. The

1079
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,119
other major thoroughways that have that

1080
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,520
issue. Yes. Yes, we do. So, our

1081
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,520
vegetation

1082
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,920
um our vegetation crews and program

1083
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,000
managers, we we do tens of thousands of

1084
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,560
trims and removals just in Santo County

1085
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,599
alone every year. Um Hillsboro, we do

1086
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,920
them in kind of sections. It's a by

1087
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,079
sorry it's a semianual

1088
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,560
patrol and then the following half of

1089
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,880
the year if they got patrolled in the

1090
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,119
first quarter or second quarter the

1091
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:24,480
latter half of the year they'll go and

1092
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,920
do the trims unless there's something

1093
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,240
immediate those also get kind of ranked

1094
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,319
if they find a tree that's like inches

1095
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:31,839
from the line they'll go cut it the next

1096
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:32,400
day

1097
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,280
>> so so parts of the town are on a

1098
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,200
schedule but if there's a particular

1099
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,800
area where residents are concerned can

1100
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,480
they reach out and say

1101
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,200
>> absolutely

1102
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,720
>> because if you have a lot of rain those

1103
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,440
branches grow faster and pen reported

1104
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
app 1800 pen 5000.

1105
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,640
>> I've also had um your staff reach out to

1106
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,560
me and then we'll dispatch veg crews

1107
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,800
immediately. There are there are many

1108
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,560
layers of ways to contact us.

1109
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:56,960
>> Okay.

1110
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,319
>> And we encourage

1111
00:46:58,319 --> 00:46:59,680
>> Okay. Thank you for the presentation.

1112
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,359
Much appreciated. We have the contact

1113
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,440
information and we'll get some of this

1114
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,440
um outreach information on our website

1115
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,200
as well for residents. Thank you very

1116
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,000
much.

1117
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,760
>> Thank you so much.

1118
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,240
Okay. Um the next item is actually a

1119
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,319
mayor's applause since we're applauding

1120
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:18,319
here, but this is very special to us and

1121
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:20,079
I would like to invite um finance

1122
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,240
director Jan Cook and assistant finance

1123
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:25,680
director Rich Santiago to the podium to

1124
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,440
um just honor and recognize you for um

1125
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,599
government finance officers association

1126
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:35,119
awards for June 30th, 2025 annual

1127
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,839
comprehensive financial report and the

1128
00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,880
fiscal year 2025 2026 annual budget

1129
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,160
document.

1130
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,720
Just um FYI, we are so proud that our

1131
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:49,440
team gets this award every year. We

1132
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,280
they're superstars. What can we say? So,

1133
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,040
we try to celebrate it and and

1134
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,440
acknowledge them. And um I if any of my

1135
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,280
colleagues want to make any comments to

1136
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,599
this effect, but we can't thank you

1137
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,920
enough for keeping this town in its very

1138
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,400
strong sound fiscal uh stability over

1139
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,720
the many many decades, but especially

1140
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,040
over the many years that you've been

1141
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,960
leading our finance department. And it's

1142
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,720
quite an honor to see you keep getting

1143
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,480
this award. It's a reflection of your

1144
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,200
professionalism, diligence, and ex and

1145
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,440
just excellence in what you do. Thank

1146
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:32,309
you.

1147
00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:34,960
Okay, the next item on the agenda is the

1148
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,040
town updates and this will be presented

1149
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,200
by by our assistant city manager, Mandy

1150
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:51,109
Brown.

1151
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,640
Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, and

1152
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,079
council. I must have not messed it up

1153
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,079
too bad last month, so Doug's letting me

1154
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,240
do it again. And it's very brief because

1155
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,880
I know we have a very big agenda. Um,

1156
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
big thank you to the Memorial Day

1157
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,720
planning committee, everybody that came

1158
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,040
out for the event, obviously our

1159
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,440
wonderful public works uh department and

1160
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,680
the Hillsboro Police Department. Um, and

1161
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,280
just a lot of thought that went into the

1162
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,079
day, the weather, the sun came out at

1163
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,000
the right perfect time. Um, it's just a

1164
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,079
beautiful day. It was featured on ABC7

1165
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,319
News that evening. Um, and just just

1166
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:23,760
want everyone to mark their calendars

1167
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,680
for next year, May 31st.

1168
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,119
Was already mentioned, but just wanted

1169
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:30,480
to share the artwork that was prepared

1170
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,079
by the Hillsboro Youth Commission that's

1171
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,720
helping host this event tomorrow, 400 pm

1172
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:39,119
at town hall for the pride celebration.

1173
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,520
Turn trail. So, this information has

1174
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,079
been um believe mailed out. It's also on

1175
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,640
our website. Um the construction is

1176
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,920
underway, already begun. Um and just to

1177
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,520
communicate and we will continue to

1178
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,559
overcommunicate the limitation in access

1179
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,880
during the duration of the project and

1180
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,839
it's expected to go through winter 2026.

1181
00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:02,880
So, lots of construction in town um

1182
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,599
during this time period, but um Paul

1183
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,280
Willis, Natalie Gribbon, and a whole

1184
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,440
public works department is working very

1185
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,000
quickly to get this issue resolved um in

1186
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:18,559
a timely manner. So, we'll continue to message as updates are available.

1187
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,800
A message from Rethink Waste. If you

1188
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,040
can't get to the Shoreway Environmental

1189
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,440
Center, they now have a virtual online

1190
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,400
tour so you can click and learn things.

1191
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,800
Um, so if you haven't been already, um,

1192
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,200
you can visit from your, uh, privacy of

1193
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
your own home.

1194
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:39,280
CCFD had a goal setting session on May

1195
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,240
15th, and so the fireboard as well as

1196
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,319
representatives from Burling Game and

1197
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:47,680
Hillsboro uh, attended to get updates on

1198
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,440
operational statistics, major

1199
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,280
initiatives, and upcoming projects. And

1200
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,800
we imagine there will be more

1201
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
information from CCFD um, coming to the

1202
00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:00,069
C town council later this year.

1203
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,720
The local hazard mitigation plan public

1204
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,200
comment period is open now through June

1205
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,880
15th. Um so we encourage you to provide

1206
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,400
your comments. You can view the draft

1207
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,160
plan online. This is particularly

1208
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,559
important because every jurisdiction has

1209
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,800
to have an approved local hazard

1210
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,599
mitigation plan in order to be eligible

1211
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,079
for FEMA grant funding. So the brick

1212
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,640
project relies on us having the local

1213
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,800
hazard mitigation plan and being

1214
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,599
compliant. So very important um as we

1215
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,520
look to secure that funding in the near

1216
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,950
future.

1217
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaking of construction, Crocker

1218
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,480
construction is underway. So I'll we'll

1219
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,720
continue to include this slide um just

1220
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,200
with their website uh to make sure that

1221
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,359
you everybody is getting the updates.

1222
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:47,200
public works and PD is also working

1223
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,599
closely with the school district um on

1224
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,760
the minimizing the impacts during this

1225
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,670
construction period.

1226
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,559
This is um many residents have um asked

1227
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,559
some questions about a mailed notice

1228
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,599
that was sent by AT&T and this has to do

1229
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,800
with um the carrier of last resort topic

1230
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,960
we had spoken about a couple years ago.

1231
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,400
it had first come up and it was in the

1232
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,040
news quite a bit um where AT&T was

1233
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,599
trying to pull out of being of having to

1234
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:18,240
provide landline service. Um a couple of

1235
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,760
residents have spoken about how this

1236
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,040
really affects their alarm um settings

1237
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,040
and so when it was applied for at the

1238
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,079
state level by the CPU they denied it.

1239
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:34,079
So AT&T is now going around the CPU and

1240
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,720
going straight to the FCC to try to get

1241
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,040
permission to no longer have to provide

1242
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,440
landline service um for the state of

1243
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,240
California. And so this comment period

1244
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,119
is going on through June 22nd. So

1245
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,680
comments can be filed electronically at

1246
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,280
fcc.gov

1247
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,559
um the ecfsilings.

1248
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,400
Um I know this was a topic of interest

1249
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,559
at that time period. I've provided the

1250
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,480
docket number there. It's also in the

1251
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,079
mailed notice that was sent out to

1252
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,559
residents. Um, nothing's been decided

1253
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:06,640
obviously. It's still um at this public

1254
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,319
comment period, but we'll continue to

1255
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:10,720
monitor this um and keep the council and

1256
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:12,559
community apprised if there are any new

1257
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:17,510
developments as this uh proceeds.

1258
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,640
And lastly, um going off of Marjgery's

1259
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,960
comments from Pen about being prepared

1260
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,040
for emergencies and um here's our

1261
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,559
regular slide with all the resources

1262
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,040
that are available. Thank you.

1263
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,520
Um, Mandy Brown, appreciate

1264
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:38,400
that presentation. Um, yes. Um, Council Member Adams,

1265
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480
>> just a question about the AT&T. You

1266
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,280
don't need to hire a lawyer or make this

1267
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,920
very formal. You can just lodge a

1268
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,440
complaint. And I just want people to

1269
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,079
know they don't have to prepare a big

1270
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:53,280
docket. They can just tell their story.

1271
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,040
>> Correct. It should be very user

1272
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,720
friendly. I did check it out. just be

1273
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,440
able to provide comments and CPU had a

1274
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,680
similar process um when it was at that

1275
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400
level the last time as well.

1276
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,119
>> Thank you. Um next item is uh public

1277
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:10,480
comments on items that are not on the

1278
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,800
agenda. Do we have any public comments

1279
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,480
uh city clerk either on Zoom or in

1280
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,800
chambers on items that are not on the

1281
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,359
agenda?

1282
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:21,119
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any

1283
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:22,960
speaker cards for items not on the

1284
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,480
agenda. So, if there's anyone who would

1285
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,480
like to speak on something that's not

1286
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,240
already on the agenda, you can let me

1287
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,640
know now. Um, and I don't have any

1288
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,000
raised hands on Zoom.

1289
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,839
Doesn't look like it, Marle. Thank you.

1290
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:39,599
>> Okay, seeing none, we'll proceed with um

1291
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:43,359
a conflict of interest um on items on

1292
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:45,200
the agenda, including the consent

1293
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,520
calendar. Um, let me ask my colleagues

1294
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,599
any conflict of interest on any items

1295
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,599
that are on the agenda or consent

1296
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,599
calendar. Seeing none, um before we move

1297
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,359
forward with a motion for the consent

1298
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,200
calendar, I would like to clarify that

1299
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,599
item three was re um I guess that's on

1300
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:06,630
page

1301
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,960
just looking to see what page four.

1302
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,640
Yeah. Um there's been a minor revision

1303
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,520
on the fourth whereas and I would read

1304
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,839
it into the record. The town elects to

1305
00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:20,800
use the percentage increases in per

1306
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,640
capita personal personal income and San

1307
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Mateo County's population growth to

1308
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040
calculate the appropriations limit for

1309
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,040
fiscal year fiscal year 2026 to 2027.

1310
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,480
And that's the u modifications on

1311
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,280
revision. In which case, do we have a

1312
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,640
motion to um

1313
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,200
vote on

1314
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,640
uh any I'm sorry, from the council um

1315
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,200
any items that anyone wish to remove

1316
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,280
from the consent calendar? Council

1317
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,400
member Chong.

1318
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,240
>> Yes. Could I remove um item 10 and item

1319
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:01,589
16?

1320
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:04,160
» Items 10 and 16.

1321
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,160
Any any other items to be removed from

1322
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,359
the consent calendar?

1323
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:14,000
Any public um request to remove any

1324
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,839
items from the consent calendar?

1325
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:19,520
>> I don't have any speaker cards.

1326
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,079
>> Okay. I will have us proceed and approve

1327
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:26,400
um and and vote on items 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

1328
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:32,880
9 11 12 13 14 and 15. Do I have a motion

1329
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,240
to vote on those items?

1330
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,480
>> I have a motion on those and number

1331
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,400
three as amended.

1332
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,079
>> Second.

1333
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,119
>> Could you please take the roll call?

1334
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,640
>> Thank you. Adams,

1335
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,359
>> yes.

1336
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:46,079
>> Schwang,

1337
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:46,480
>> yes.

1338
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,119
>> Kle,

1339
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:47,599
>> yes.

1340
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:48,400
>> Ragdale,

1341
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:48,799
>> yes.

1342
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:49,920
>> Cole,

1343
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,960
>> yes.

1344
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
>> Turning to item 10 on the consent

1345
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,960
calendar, resolution approving the town

1346
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,480
of Hillsboro City Council Handbook. Um,

1347
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Council Member Chwang, you may proceed.

1348
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,119
Thank you, mayor. Um, item 10. I just

1349
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,760
want to u thank uh assistant city

1350
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,000
manager Manny Brown and also city clerk

1351
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,520
Lisa Natush uh for working on this um

1352
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,799
handbook and um on one of the and it is

1353
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:16,480
very thorough. So, I really appreciate

1354
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,119
the details. One of the comments that I

1355
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,839
want to make is that um regarding the

1356
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:23,839
rotation of the mayor and the vice mayor

1357
00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:27,680
and the uh council uh rotation, I wonder

1358
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,680
if we can have uh the the the staff take

1359
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,079
it back and then work on that uh uh sort

1360
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,079
of provide some kind of guideline. The

1361
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,799
reason is that recently we have seen in

1362
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:43,520
other cities where they for one reason

1363
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,760
or another uh have to change the

1364
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,040
orientation of the rotation and I feel

1365
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,839
that um at any time when there is some

1366
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:54,640
guidelines at least you know the council

1367
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,000
will come to the dis and be able to um

1368
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,920
elect the mayor and the vice mayor

1369
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,359
accordingly and when there are uh sort

1370
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,680
of the difference then they will be able

1371
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,240
to use the guideline as sort of a you

1372
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,160
know um a discussion point uh for for

1373
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,680
that. So I I just want to have that

1374
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,079
because right now in our council

1375
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:21,119
handbook there's no discussion on the

1376
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,079
rotation.

1377
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,680
>> Um I will ask my colleagues to comment

1378
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,040
on um on the discussion of item 10 if

1379
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,040
they have any questions or clarification

1380
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,839
or comments.

1381
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,440
Yes, Vice Mayor Ragdale.

1382
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,720
>> Um, I had a couple of very minor things.

1383
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,359
Um, because, you know, I can't look at

1384
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:44,880
something without having a couple little

1385
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,920
mini comments, but they were

1386
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,839
administrative, like when it says the

1387
00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:50,880
number one, write it out as one. And

1388
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,960
there was a headline that didn't quite

1389
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,839
match the stuff that was beneath it, but

1390
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:58,480
um but beyond that, nothing substantive.

1391
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,359
Um, so I have passed those on to um

1392
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:04,559
Mandy and Lisa. And um with regard to

1393
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,119
council member Schwang's suggestion, I I

1394
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,160
think guidance would be uh fantastic.

1395
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,839
Thank you.

1396
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:15,119
>> Any additional comments or questions on

1397
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,920
that item 10? I I think I would suggest

1398
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,040
with this new um item being brought up

1399
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,960
that perhaps we defer this until next

1400
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,309
month's

1401
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:30,160
» uh defer approval because that's kind of

1402
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,280
a big

1403
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,160
>> right

1404
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,799
>> kind of a big discussion. I'm basically

1405
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:36,880
u making the comments and then you know

1406
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,200
would hope that uh you know we will be

1407
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,680
able to bring it back to the staff for

1408
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,720
uh just kind of to do some research as

1409
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,720
to what are the standard practices out

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,960
there and then perhaps bring it back in

1411
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,920
full uh in the next month for for

1412
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,680
review.

1413
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,119
>> Um um council member um Adams I'm sorry.

1414
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,599
>> Yes sir. Thank you mayor. Um, I also

1415
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:02,960
have some uh little corrections. So,

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01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,040
maybe we can get all of those into a red

1417
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,640
line and then have it uh redistributed.

1418
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,119
There's a a place where the voice

1419
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:15,440
changes from neutral to when you receive

1420
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,520
a gift. Little things like that. So, I

1421
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,280
think we ought to uh bring it back.

1422
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,119
>> Okay. Um I just my comments is

1423
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,680
uh specifically what clarifications are

1424
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,720
we asking for the election or nomination

1425
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,119
of a mayor and vice mayor? Are we asking

1426
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,680
for to change the current procedure we

1427
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,040
have or to design a new process? What is

1428
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,880
the specific question we're asking?

1429
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,200
Thank

1430
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,680
>> thank you mayor. Um, so I'll use the

1431
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,480
casing points and most recently Milbre

1432
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,760
uh the mayor uh resigned for u a

1433
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,880
conflict of interest and um and then

1434
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,520
they went through the they went down the

1435
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,400
procedure as to uh you know the vice

1436
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,400
mayor being promoted to the to be the

1437
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,520
mayor but because that they have two

1438
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,200
appointments rather than election

1439
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,640
through the elections that the appointed

1440
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,720
council members could not be um

1441
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,920
could not could not become the vice

1442
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,960
mayor nominations and even though by

1443
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,119
rotation that that should seem to be the

1444
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,599
case and what I'm saying is that in

1445
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:27,200
general there's no uh conflict but when

1446
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,760
there are circumstances it's always very

1447
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,480
helpful that we have some uh point of uh

1448
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,799
we have some guideline as to how the

1449
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:39,359
rotation works. Case in points, if you

1450
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:43,440
have a elections where you have two new council members coming in, right?

1451
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,760
And then um then in terms of the

1452
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,599
nomination, who is going to be the next

1453
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:50,400
vice mayor that sometimes some of the

1454
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,960
cities will go by with the highest vote

1455
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,839
getters to be the the second in place.

1456
01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:58,720
But that is again is a sort of an

1457
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,799
agreements among the council members.

1458
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:03,119
And so I I would think that something

1459
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,960
like that would be helpful for us to

1460
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520
take a look at it. We may disagree on

1461
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,240
it, but it it's always nice to have some

1462
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,200
kind of guidelines so that we have a

1463
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,520
reference point as to how to start.

1464
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,520
>> Okay. Um, thanks for that clarification.

1465
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,280
In which case, I will have us remove

1466
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280
item 10 completely from the consent

1467
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,200
calendar and we will study it further

1468
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,680
with the city attorney. Thank you. And

1469
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,319
item

1470
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:28,640
>> Do we need a vote on that or it's just

1471
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,200
council?

1472
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,040
>> Would you?

1473
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,160
>> No, thank you for the question, Mayor

1474
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,160
Cole. City Council. Um, if if your

1475
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,559
direction is just to defer it, let staff

1476
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:37,920
kind of work on I think the direction

1477
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,280
you've given to us, I don't think you

1478
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,559
need to take a motion.

1479
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,240
>> If you want to formally continue it to a

1480
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,079
date specified, like the next meeting,

1481
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:45,440
and you really want it to be, I think

1482
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,799
staff has that direction, but if you

1483
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:48,160
want it on the record, you could make a

1484
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,920
motion to continue it to the next

1485
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,119
regular city council meeting.

1486
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:52,640
>> If you think we can address this issue

1487
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,040
in a month, um, sounds like they may

1488
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,480
>> I'll defer to our management team that's

1489
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,880
been working on it.

1490
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,640
I I think we could come back with

1491
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,000
options for discussion um rather than um

1492
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,680
necessarily for an action item and then

1493
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,599
once we have clarity on that item and if

1494
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,520
there are others then we can return with

1495
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,799
the the item to for for a for council

1496
01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:13,520
action

1497
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,599
>> and just we're clear we're targeting

1498
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:18,400
July not the June 22nd meeting

1499
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,480
>> correct and and just for further

1500
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,599
clarification um discussions on this

1501
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,400
issue could potentially take several

1502
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,559
months and we going into an election. I

1503
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:29,920
would like the entire council to be

1504
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,680
aware that this conversation will

1505
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,200
continue into the fall as we have an

1506
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,000
election and it in no ways implies any

1507
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,440
bias of of any sort. Just timing.

1508
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,079
>> Understood.

1509
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,160
>> Okay. Thank you. So, we'll just remove

1510
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,359
that. And the next item, remove item 10.

1511
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:55,119
Sorry. Um the next item is item fif 16.

1512
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:58,640
>> Um thank you. Um, I just want to bring

1513
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,240
up the um item 16 because uh this is in

1514
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,960
particular uh addressing to the uh

1515
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,200
council responding this council's

1516
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,640
directions as to addressing some of the

1517
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,480
um

1518
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,359
some of the uh construction by design

1519
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:19,039
that the homeowners were uh tasked with

1520
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:23,280
uh 2 in pipe. And um so the council has

1521
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,200
long have discussions regarding that.

1522
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,599
some of the property owners that even

1523
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,640
with the two inches pipe that they are

1524
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:36,160
not necessarily using the water in the way that it's been by design so to

1525
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,280
reduce the cost. Um, so I I really

1526
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,599
appreciate that the staff finally bring

1527
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:46,480
back uh somehow a way to address that

1528
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,319
and even though it's 60 out of the 252

1529
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:53,599
in pipe u property owners um that

1530
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:56,079
nonetheless is it address the sort of

1531
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:58,160
the fairness as to how they they are

1532
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,760
being charged. So I just want to

1533
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,359
compliment the staff and then really

1534
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:03,359
highlight that as something that our

1535
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:05,520
residents will be aware of.

1536
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,160
>> Great. Thank you. Any additional comment

1537
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,839
on that item? Okay. Um, in which you're

1538
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:13,200
not making any modification or

1539
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,960
amendment. Okay. Just to compliment the

1540
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,000
staff.

1541
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,200
>> Thank you, Paul.

1542
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,960
>> We appreciate that. And we were ready

1543
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,799
for any questions. We do have samples of

1544
01:05:20,799 --> 01:05:23,039
a 1 in and 2 inch meter behind William.

1545
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,880
If you'd like to see what they look like

1546
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,520
later or during a break, u, the 2in

1547
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,599
meters very large and heavy.

1548
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,000
>> To summarize, that's to summarize. Some

1549
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,400
homeowners were asked by the town to

1550
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,720
install 2-in pipes mostly for fire

1551
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,880
suppression systems, but they don't use

1552
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,760
enough water to justify the 2-in pipe.

1553
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,400
So, the upcharge for them was deemed not

1554
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,240
fair. So, they can apply for a rebate

1555
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,079
for that. To summarize, is that right?

1556
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:49,760
>> Summarize. And some of those choices

1557
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,839
were made by previous contractors or

1558
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:54,079
developers long before we have our

1559
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:56,400
current policies and our fixed meter

1560
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,559
charges. And so, they inherited those

1561
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,839
older systems. And uh as explained in

1562
01:06:01,839 --> 01:06:04,880
the staff report, the actual remedy and

1563
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,039
the cost is really cost prohibitive to

1564
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,119
have people redo their internal plumbing

1565
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:11,440
just to save money for a 1-in meter when

1566
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,440
they're only using less than what the

1567
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,400
average person uses for a 1-in meter.

1568
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,400
>> Um just um for clarification, the rebate

1569
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,960
is based on usage

1570
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,799
regardless of the whether you have a 2

1571
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:26,640
in. I in other words, would you be

1572
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,079
whether you're eligible to get the

1573
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,839
rebate as outlined in the agenda

1574
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:34,480
package? It's also going to be based on

1575
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,599
whether you use a certain amount that

1576
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:43,839
supersedes what a 1 in um meter would I a 1 in pipe would be using,

1577
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:46,319
right? You have some I I just don't want

1578
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,720
residents to expect that if just having

1579
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,760
the 2 in automatically defaults you into

1580
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,160
a rebate. There's specific criteria.

1581
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,680
It's very specific. It's in the staff

1582
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,960
report. The main thing is you have to

1583
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,119
use less than what a typical or average

1584
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:01,119
1-inch meter would use and then less

1585
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:03,440
than the peak amount and it it is a

1586
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,760
rebate. So the resident asks for it,

1587
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,960
then we would apply it as a lump sum

1588
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960
credit to the account for the future

1589
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:11,920
bills.

1590
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:12,319
>> Okay.

1591
01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:13,119
>> And just

1592
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:14,480
>> Yes, council member Adams.

1593
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,760
>> In addition, it cannot be an absentee

1594
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,799
owner. uh it cannot be a commercial

1595
01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:23,760
dwelling and it cannot have multiple

1596
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,039
meters. So this is just for those

1597
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:28,880
exceptions that really haven't been

1598
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,839
fairly treated and I think it was a

1599
01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:32,559
great solution.

1600
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:33,920
>> Yeah. Thank you.

1601
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,599
>> In which case do we have a motion to

1602
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,839
adopt a resolution adopting a res a

1603
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:40,160
residential 2-in water meter rebates

1604
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,200
policy?

1605
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,079
>> So move.

1606
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:43,760
>> You have a second.

1607
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,720
>> Second.

1608
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,160
Um, all those in favor say I.

1609
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,440
>> I.

1610
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:57,119
Motion carries 5-0. Okay. Next item.

1611
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,960
On our agenda is um

1612
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,599
item 17, resolution authorizing the

1613
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,280
5-year

1614
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,520
rate series for water rate charges for a

1615
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,799
5-year period effective July 1st, 2026.

1616
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:14,240
And this will be presented by um uh

1617
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,679
Director of Finance Jan Cook.

1618
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,600
Good evening, Mayor Cole and city

1619
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,520
council members.

1620
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,480
This item is to consider adopting water

1621
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:27,520
rates. This is a five-year water rate

1622
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,319
series effective July of 2026 for the

1623
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,199
first rate series. It's the maximum

1624
01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:38,960
rates. If in any one year uh the results

1625
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,279
are showing that not as much as needed,

1626
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,159
the city council can uh adopt a lower

1627
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,600
rate in that year. And the last rate

1628
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,839
increase that the town had was in

1629
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:53,359
January of 2025.

1630
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:59,759
And these rates are needed to cover the costs of the system which are

1631
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:02,400
increasing primarily for the San

1632
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,799
Francisco uh PUC water purchased cost as

1633
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,199
well as uh capital improvements and

1634
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:12,239
other operational items. This was

1635
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,679
studied o with by the town council over

1636
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:19,279
two sess sessions and um so tonight

1637
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,520
we'll be providing just a summary and

1638
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,839
I'd like to introduce Rick Simon senior

1639
01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:27,440
vice president of H FNH and we also have

1640
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:29,759
Gabe Sasser who is the project manager

1641
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:33,279
from H FNH and then we have Ly Karu from

1642
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,159
best and creger uh all of this team

1643
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:38,880
along with staff has put together at

1644
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,520
this this rate recommended for this

1645
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,759
evening. So with that, I will turn it

1646
01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:46,960
over to Rick for the presentation.

1647
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,560
>> Thank you, Jen. Good evening, Mayor

1648
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,640
Cole, Vice Mayor Ragsdale, council

1649
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,640
members. Again, I'm Rick Simson, senior

1650
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,040
vice president with HF&H.

1651
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,760
Our goal for today is uh for me to

1652
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,600
present a summary of the water rate

1653
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,040
study process and the rate

1654
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,520
recommendations that were noticed in

1655
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:08,239
late April to your uh water customers.

1656
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,719
This is just an overview high-level

1657
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:12,960
summary of what has been provided in a

1658
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,360
more detailed report that is on the

1659
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,159
town's website that included a link in

1660
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:20,719
the notice to those that want additional

1661
01:10:20,719 --> 01:10:22,640
information or to dive a little bit

1662
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,080
deeper into the numbers. And tonight is

1663
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,159
a public hearing as noticed.

1664
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,239
And tonight, the city council can vote

1665
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:35,600
whether to adopt those maximum rates

1666
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,199
that were included in the notice,

1667
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,159
nothing higher. And that first rate

1668
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,159
adjustment would go into effect this

1669
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:46,550
coming July.

1670
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,440
How did we get here? So the process uh

1671
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:52,480
started in November of last year meeting

1672
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,600
with staff uh to understand the

1673
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,719
operations and maintenance expenses to

1674
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:00,719
operate the water system as well as the

1675
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:03,040
capital projects necessary over the next

1676
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,920
5-year period. We came to the city

1677
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,800
council in February for preliminary

1678
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,000
results and to get feedback

1679
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,159
about the recommended increases. With

1680
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:18,640
that feedback, we came back to the

1681
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,840
council with a draft report and we held

1682
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,920
that in April.

1683
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,239
And at that time, the council authorized

1684
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:28,320
the issuing of notices to start the

1685
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,920
Proposition 218 process, which notifies

1686
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,560
rateayers of the contemplated increases

1687
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,480
the next 5-year period. Those were

1688
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:41,280
mailed out April 20th.

1689
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,920
So for tonight, uh this is the public

1690
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,159
hearing that was noticed. It gives a

1691
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:47,920
chance for the public to make public

1692
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,719
comments on the study itself and the

1693
01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:54,480
recommendations before the council. The

1694
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,320
council can vote tonight whether to

1695
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,000
adopt those maximum rates. Again, only

1696
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,840
up to the amount that was included in

1697
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,390
the 218 notice.

1698
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,080
To give you an overview of kind of these

1699
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,480
highlevel drivers that Jan has touched

1700
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:13,520
on, first and foremost, the cost of

1701
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,000
wholesale water purchasing the water

1702
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,920
from the SFP, which makes up about 44%

1703
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,640
of the overall water budget each year.

1704
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,760
Uh the SFPC has given notice that they

1705
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,840
will be increasing the wholesale cost of

1706
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,840
water 7.4%

1707
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,600
this July 1st. Another 7.4%

1708
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,480
the following July 1st followed by more

1709
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:39,360
inflationary type increases between 2

1710
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,000
and a half to to 4% for the 3 years of

1711
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,080
this 5-year rate study. So we have

1712
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,840
included those projections in the

1713
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,080
recommendations you have before you

1714
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,840
tonight.

1715
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,320
Another large component of the annual

1716
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,040
spend for the water utility is the

1717
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,199
capital infrastructure. So to continue

1718
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:02,080
to provide safe clean water, uh there

1719
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,159
are some improvements that are necessary

1720
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:06,800
to the infrastructure. Uh just the

1721
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,800
projects themselves, but we're also

1722
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,719
seeing rising construction costs over

1723
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:15,920
the last few years. some of the more um

1724
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,480
detailed descriptions of the capital

1725
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:21,360
types of improvements that we will be

1726
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,360
making over the next five years is the

1727
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,199
water manes that run throughout the

1728
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,760
town. Uh there's a scheduled replacement

1729
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,120
program as needed in specific areas.

1730
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,520
That's an ongoing project that happens

1731
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,159
each year of maintaining those water

1732
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:38,480
manes so you don't have emergency

1733
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,080
failures.

1734
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,199
A couple pump stations in town at Marble

1735
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,239
and Clark Concore pump stations are

1736
01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:49,280
needing to be uh upgraded and replaced

1737
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,320
as well as the Daryl pumping line. So

1738
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,080
moving the water around the town uh all

1739
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,760
throughout the town up into the high

1740
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,320
elevations. These are very critical part

1741
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,080
of the water infrastructure and they

1742
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,880
need attention over the next 5 years.

1743
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,440
And lastly, part of this study was to

1744
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,400
analyze the current rate structure. And

1745
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,560
we're recommending moving from a tiered

1746
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,880
to what we call a uniform rate

1747
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,120
structure. So the commodity charge, how

1748
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,719
much water you use, had historically uh

1749
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:23,360
been a tiered rate structure. So more

1750
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,679
water that you use on a per unit basis,

1751
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:28,000
you'd pay more. We're recommending

1752
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,480
moving that to a uniform rate structure.

1753
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,440
So for each drop of waters, the same

1754
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:35,440
cost regardless how much is used. And

1755
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,760
this is due to some conflicting appellet

1756
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,239
rulings throughout the state as well as

1757
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:43,520
here in the town of proper rate making

1758
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,640
be it tiered or uniform. And in front of

1759
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,480
you tonight is changing that structure

1760
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:51,679
from tiered to uniform.

1761
01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:53,360
Here's

1762
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,199
a couple examples of the uh capital

1763
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:59,679
improvement program over the next

1764
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:01,679
five-year period. Scheduled to spend

1765
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:05,120
about 14.6 million. These are actual

1766
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,000
photos of completed projects, but very

1767
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,600
similar to what you need to do over the

1768
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,159
next 5year period. On the left hand side

1769
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:13,600
there, you see the pump station

1770
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,679
improvements. You can see quite the uh

1771
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:20,159
involvement for your pump stations.

1772
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:23,120
they're in a vault. Uh these will be

1773
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,400
done at Marble and Clark Concore as well

1774
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,159
as the emergency valve replacements

1775
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:31,920
uh throughout the town. So these are

1776
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,239
some examples of what have been done.

1777
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:36,080
More of these replacements need to occur

1778
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:40,790
over the next 5-year period.

1779
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,280
Here's an example of a water tank for

1780
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,080
storage uh an emergency basis or when uh

1781
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,719
it's cheaper to move water around. The

1782
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:53,520
town stores it in these tanks while PG&

1783
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,840
name costs are lower and then our

1784
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,320
gravity fed to your customers uh

1785
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,320
throughout the day when it's would be

1786
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,040
more expensive to actually pump. Uh this

1787
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,760
is an example of a 2 milliongal tank at

1788
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,480
Daryl W. It's the Daryl water tank and

1789
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:11,840
this helped achieve and bring you within

1790
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,159
regulations for having a minimum

1791
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,400
requirement of 3 million gallons per day

1792
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,189
of storage.

1793
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:23,920
So that brings us to uh the rates that

1794
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,239
we analyze in order to fund those

1795
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:27,840
programs.

1796
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,800
Currently water is charged with two

1797
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,679
separate components. First a fixed

1798
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:36,480
service charge as mentioned earlier it

1799
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,679
is based on the size of connection. So

1800
01:16:39,679 --> 01:16:41,760
the larger connection the more capacity

1801
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,560
in the system you need. Therefore it's

1802
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,040
their higher charges as you increase

1803
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,280
that connection or meter size. Most of

1804
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,360
the customers in the town have a 1-in

1805
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,320
meter and these are rates that are

1806
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,120
charged on a bon

1807
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,440
period. So this is two months worth of

1808
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:03,840
fixed service charges. In addition to

1809
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,040
that fixed service charge to cover uh a

1810
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,600
portion of the fixed cost, there is a

1811
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,920
volumetric charge. And as I mentioned

1812
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,800
earlier, based on how much water is used

1813
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,520
historically, there were four tiers. So

1814
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,480
as you used more water, typically during

1815
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:24,159
the summer months, uh you would pay a a

1816
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,760
higher unit rate as you moved up those

1817
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,800
tiers. We are recommending moving to the

1818
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,800
uniform. So from drop one uh for each

1819
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,000
unit of water denoted here is HCF which

1820
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,360
is 100 cubic feet about 748 gallons of

1821
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,920
water. It will be charged a uniform

1822
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,679
rate. Uh for July 1, 2026 we're make

1823
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:50,560
recommending $1142

1824
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,790
rate.

1825
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,199
Next slide.

1826
01:17:57,199 --> 01:17:59,360
and rates are all and good and they have

1827
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,280
been noticed. Uh but I think the

1828
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,199
question we often get is well how does

1829
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:05,440
that impact my bill since I use water

1830
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:06,880
differently throughout the year? What

1831
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,640
does that mean to me as a customer? So

1832
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,280
the town has put together a water bill

1833
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,920
calculator. Have a couple examples here.

1834
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,800
It's pretty easy to use. Uh there are

1835
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,880
some customers in town that are build on

1836
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,199
a monthly basis, mainly your

1837
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:24,719
non-residential customers. Uh so first

1838
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:26,480
uh look at your bill and see how often

1839
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,400
you are being charged either monthly or

1840
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,840
bimonthly. Look at the meter size

1841
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,239
denoted on your bill. The most common

1842
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:36,719
again is 1 in. So we've shown that here

1843
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:39,600
and about average water use of 22 units.

1844
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,199
So again that's 22 HCF of water which is

1845
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:46,239
about 274 gallons per day. And you'll

1846
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,159
see the individual components based on

1847
01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:51,920
the current rates, the service charge

1848
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,920
and volume charge, as well as what is

1849
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,880
proposed moving forward starting July

1850
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,560
126. So you can at a glance look at the

1851
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,560
different months of water use that you

1852
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,400
have. It's typically lower during the

1853
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,640
winter and higher during the summer. You

1854
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,040
can see the impact.

1855
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,360
There are some high water users in town

1856
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,960
or again during the summer season you

1857
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,600
might use more than that 22 HCF. So next

1858
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,640
slide you'll see an example. It's easy

1859
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,120
to input. If you use 50 during the

1860
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,159
summer again that's about 623 gallons

1861
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:31,280
per day. You'll see the resulting

1862
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,120
changes in the bill from the current

1863
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,520
rates to what's proposed July 1 26. So

1864
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,679
this is a very handy tool that the town

1865
01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:41,520
has posted on its website. You'll see

1866
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,679
the link there.

1867
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:45,920
With that again, that was a high-level

1868
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,840
overview. So I would like to open it up

1869
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,199
for any questions that you may have.

1870
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:52,960
>> Um thank you Mr. Simon for the

1871
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,840
presentation. Um before we get to um the

1872
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,840
public hearing aspect of this, I would

1873
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ask my colleagues on the council if they

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01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:03,600
have any clarifying questions. Just

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,480
questions at this point.

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Mayor Coles council's thinking whether

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01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:09,280
they have questions. I just wanted to

1878
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,719
note for you staff has created some

1879
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:12,880
talking points um for you and then also

1880
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,719
for me to read into the record uh prior

1881
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:16,400
to taking any public comment on the

1882
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project.

1883
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,679
>> Right.

1884
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:22,080
And I'm not sure um um who is in

1885
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,840
chambers regarding these specific

1886
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,480
issues, but I would like to welcome you

1887
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,960
um to this public hearing. And um I

1888
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,400
would like to ask the staff to inform

1889
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,800
the city council as to whether all valid

1890
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,560
legal objections received thus far have

1891
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,560
been responded to and presented to the

1892
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,239
city council.

1893
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:42,159
>> Yes, all valid legal objections have

1894
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:44,239
been responded to and all objections and

1895
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,480
responses have been presented to the

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01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,920
council. Thank you. And before I open to

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,679
public hearing, I would like to ask our

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01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:53,199
legal council to explain the

1899
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,679
requirements of proposition 218

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01:20:55,679 --> 01:20:57,520
governing this public hearing and the

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proposed rate adoption.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Just wanted to

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,800
announce for the or note for the public

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,640
uh the public hearing tonight was set in

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01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,960
compliance with Proposition 218. The

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01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,480
town mailed a notice of this public

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01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:10,080
hearing to the record property owners

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,440
subject to the imposition of the

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01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:13,600
proposed water rates as well as tenants

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directly liable for the payment of such

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01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,600
rates, i.e. customers of record who are

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not property owners more than 45 days

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prior to the date of this public

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,040
hearing. The purpose of this public

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,640
hearing is for the city council to hear

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01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,640
all oral testimony and consider all

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,400
written protest concerning the proposed

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01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,719
rate increases. It is also held to

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01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:32,159
determine whether there is a majority

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01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:33,760
protest to the proposed rates and

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,760
whether to proceed with the adoption of

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,920
the proposed rates. Members of the

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,760
public are invited to provide oral

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01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,120
testimony during tonight's public

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01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,120
hearing. In addition, property owners

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,880
and tenants may submit a written protest

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01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,120
by hand delivering it to the city clerk

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01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,480
prior to the close of the public

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01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,719
hearing. Property owners and tenants are

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01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,560
not required to provide oral testimony

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at today's hearing in order for your

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,679
written protest to be counted towards

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01:21:55,679 --> 01:21:57,520
determining whether a majority protest

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,639
exists. However, oral testimony without

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01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:02,560
a written protest will not be counted

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01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,000
when determining whether a majority

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01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,159
protest exists. So, it's important to

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01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,600
submit that written protest if you want

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01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,840
it to count. The public hearing will be

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,440
closed after the city council has heard

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01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:13,360
and considered all oral testimony on

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01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,840
these items. In order to be counted,

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01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,679
protests must be in writing. State that

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01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:19,840
you are protesting the proposed water

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,159
rate increases. Include the name of the

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01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:24,400
property owner or tenant, the assessor

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01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,800
parcel number or service address, and

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01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,480
signature of the person submitting the

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01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:30,880
written protest. Any protest submitted

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,800
by email or other electronic means will

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,800
not be accepted as a form of written

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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,520
protest.

1953
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Then finally, all valid protests

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,719
submitted to the town by mail or hand

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01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:42,000
delivered prior to today's public

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,760
hearing and received by the city clerk

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01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,360
since the notice of public hearing was

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01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,840
mailed will be counted. If written

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01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,840
protest against the m the proposed rate

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,520
increases are presented by the owners or

1961
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,679
tenants of a majority of the identified

1962
01:22:53,679 --> 01:22:56,639
parcels upon which the proposed uh water

1963
01:22:56,639 --> 01:22:58,400
rates are to be imposed, the city

1964
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,400
council may not adopt the rate

1965
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,719
increases. If there is no majority

1966
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:05,120
protests, the city council may decide to

1967
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,360
adopt the rate increases. Finally,

1968
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:08,719
pursuant to state law governing

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01:23:08,719 --> 01:23:10,800
Proposition 218 in determining whether a

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,800
majority protest exists, only one

1971
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,719
written protest per parcel may be

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01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:17,840
counted. Thank you.

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01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,600
>> Um, thank you.

1974
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,239
>> I'm sorry, Council Member Crowley. Did

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01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:22,560
you see

1976
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,600
>> I have a couple questions

1977
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,280
>> before we go to public hearing. Okay,

1978
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,719
I'll come back to the council for

1979
01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:30,639
further questions. Yes, Council Member

1980
01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:31,760
Crowley.

1981
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,400
>> Um, so this might either be for Rick or

1982
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,480
for our city attorney. So, just to be

1983
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:40,560
clear, so Proposition 218 mandates that

1984
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,199
the fees for water and for sewer cannot

1985
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,120
be more than the cost of service. Is

1986
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,960
that right?

1987
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,800
>> That is correct.

1988
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,440
>> And Ludvy Kufu, our legal counsel um on

1989
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,280
Proposition 218 issues is here as well

1990
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,360
and can also respond to the question.

1991
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,880
And so then uh we had the town had

1992
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:03,360
tiered water levels and we commissioned

1993
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,960
a more recent study that dug down that

1994
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,520
and the purpose of that was to show that

1995
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,800
the different tiers were um were

1996
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,840
supported by the data. In other words,

1997
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,440
our study showed to that we got from the

1998
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,600
consultant that the the higher tier

1999
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,960
actually cost the town more. Is that

2000
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,639
right?

2001
01:24:26,639 --> 01:24:29,040
>> Um yes. So there were there was evidence

2002
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,360
supporting that the tiers as they went

2003
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,040
up they reflected the higher cost of

2004
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:33,520
service.

2005
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,440
>> But then when we went to court to ask

2006
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:38,560
the court, the court said that that was

2007
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,080
not valid.

2008
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,040
>> So it was actually the court that said

2009
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,080
that even with our study that the tiered

2010
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,560
water rates were not supported according

2011
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,239
to the court's interpretation of

2012
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:52,320
proposition 218. Is that right?

2013
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,000
>> Yeah. and I can give a little bit of

2014
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,960
detail on that. So, Proposition 218 was

2015
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,800
adopted in 1996 and um since then it's

2016
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,679
been 30 years of litigation trying to

2017
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:06,000
interpret what Proposition 218 requires

2018
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,760
for setting water rates particularly

2019
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,199
with respect to tiers. Um so since 2015

2020
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:13,040
there have been I think four or five

2021
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,679
conflicting court of appeal decisions

2022
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:17,280
and the significance of that is each

2023
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,280
court of appeal decision creates

2024
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,520
precedent so it's binding upon public

2025
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,120
agencies. they have to comply with the

2026
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,280
ruling of that court.

2027
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,840
So in our instance, the the trial court

2028
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,800
relied on two more recent court of

2029
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,800
appeal decisions that struck down tiered

2030
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,880
water rates on facts similar to the

2031
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,840
town's evidence. Uh there was a third

2032
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,600
court of appeal decision out of Los

2033
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,000
Angeles that upheld uh water rates based

2034
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,480
on similar evidence as well. So right

2035
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:46,960
now the law is very much in flux. Uh

2036
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,719
there are just conflicting opinions out

2037
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:51,199
there and um our trial court

2038
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:53,360
specifically relied on two of the

2039
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,199
opinions that took issue with tiered

2040
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:57,280
race.

2041
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,679
>> Um thank thank you. Um and I would just

2042
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:01,840
like to follow up regarding this line of

2043
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,400
questioning. um specifically this

2044
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,560
conflicting legal ruling at at this time

2045
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,679
which could change in the next year,

2046
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:14,480
months, however long um both in the

2047
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,639
courts in the appellet court as well as

2048
01:26:16,639 --> 01:26:19,199
potentially in the state legislature.

2049
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,840
But specific to our town, we also just

2050
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,080
discussed the other drivers for our

2051
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,440
cost, which is replacing aging

2052
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:30,560
infrastructure. as you saw the photos of

2053
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,400
our water manes being replaced etc. and

2054
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:39,120
um and also basically bringing the our

2055
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,719
delivery system up to um standards and

2056
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:46,560
in terms of preserving our water tanks

2057
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,480
replacing them so we have a reserve in

2058
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:50,719
the event of an emergency. So they are

2059
01:26:50,719 --> 01:26:52,960
the drivers to the cost of water

2060
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,719
production and perhaps more

2061
01:26:54,719 --> 01:26:57,600
significantly um the purchase how much

2062
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,360
we pay for our water has gone up

2063
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,840
approximately I believe 24% or 28%. So

2064
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,000
how much we're paying for the water from

2065
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,760
SFPU um has gone up. maintaining our

2066
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,920
infrastructure for the delivery system

2067
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,080
has also gone up in terms of um

2068
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,719
construction cost as well as the

2069
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:19,920
conflicting legal rulings making it

2070
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,480
difficult to clarify where the courts

2071
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:26,080
will end on this issue and thereby we

2072
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,320
are sort of from that legal standpoint

2073
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,080
that wouldn't change cost of

2074
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,679
construction potentially is going to

2075
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:33,280
continue to rise we have no control over

2076
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,520
that okay just want to clarify my

2077
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:36,880
understanding on that thank you

2078
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:37,360
>> yes

2079
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,679
>> any additional comments Yes. Um, council

2080
01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:40,719
member Adams.

2081
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:44,320
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um,

2082
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,920
with respect uh to our validation

2083
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:52,880
process, we got very clear direction

2084
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,880
from that court that we could not

2085
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,639
continue with the rates that we had and

2086
01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:03,360
that it was unconstitutional.

2087
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,840
And though he did not really take into

2088
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,760
account the Los Angeles case, he did say

2089
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,800
Hillsboro is not Los Angeles. So he

2090
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:17,120
actually did not give us much choice.

2091
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,960
Second thing is is it not true and I may

2092
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,719
have this wrong but that uh the the rate

2093
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:28,800
laws do not allow municipalities to

2094
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,520
structure their rates according to

2095
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,760
conservation goals. So it's really clear

2096
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:40,000
that that is not our our possibility. We

2097
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,719
are not talking about conservation or

2098
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:46,239
rewarding those who use less. It's

2099
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:49,440
simply how do we structure the rate of

2100
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,080
what we're selling and what we need to

2101
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,199
repair. And in our community, we have

2102
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:58,320
water lines, water manes that are 100red

2103
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,760
years old. So, we are an established

2104
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,600
community and we need to keep this uh

2105
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,520
maintenance and replacement going. So, I

2106
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,960
just want to make sure I had that clear

2107
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,440
about conservation goals are not

2108
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,239
allowed. So, um, and that's a great

2109
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,639
question, council member. So, the two

2110
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:20,239
there there's three cases, three

2111
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:22,080
operative cases here that deal with this

2112
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,880
issue. Uh, there's, uh, Kosar versus

2113
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,120
Otai Water District and Pats versus City

2114
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,520
of San Diego. Those cases, which are the

2115
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,600
ones that our trial court relied upon,

2116
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,280
both say that you cannot consider

2117
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,280
conservation goals, efficiency, and so

2118
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,560
forth. Uh, the third case, um, Dreer

2119
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,239
versus City of Los Angeles Department of

2120
01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:42,639
Water and Power says you can. So, that's

2121
01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:44,159
just another example of the conflicts

2122
01:29:44,159 --> 01:29:47,280
that we're struggling through.

2123
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,600
>> Um, and I think we can Thank you. Thank

2124
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,520
you, um, Council Member Adams. Um, we're

2125
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,360
now going to turn to those were

2126
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,440
clarifying questions for the residents

2127
01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:57,600
and for everyone. Um, and we will have

2128
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,840
the opportunity to have uh more comments

2129
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,000
on this issue, but I would like to open

2130
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,719
the public hearing at this point. Um,

2131
01:30:04,719 --> 01:30:07,040
and the public hearing will be conducted

2132
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,800
in the following manner. the staff will

2133
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,080
first provide a report um relating to

2134
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,679
the proposed water rates. We already did

2135
01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:17,760
that after presentation. Um

2136
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,320
I think basically I just need to ask if

2137
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:24,550
we have

2138
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,520
speakers if we clerk do we have any um

2139
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:32,000
speakers on Zoom um or in chambers for

2140
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,800
oral testimony?

2141
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:35,199
Uh

2142
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:37,040
>> yes we do. I have one speaker card at

2143
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,159
this time.

2144
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:39,920
>> Okay. Do we have anyone on Zoom?

2145
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,080
>> Uh, not not at not yet.

2146
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,320
>> Okay. So, we'll start with the one

2147
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,480
speaker who is in chambers.

2148
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:52,550
>> Uh, thank you. Um, Jeannie Beck.

2149
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,360
» Oh,

2150
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,360
>> my apologies. I'm sorry about that. Um,

2151
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,520
yes, I do not have any speaker cards yet

2152
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,199
on the on this on this.

2153
01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:00,800
>> So, we don't have anyone in chambers and

2154
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,880
we don't have anyone on Zoom.

2155
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,159
We can give them a moment. If there's

2156
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:05,679
anybody who wants to speak on this

2157
01:31:05,679 --> 01:31:07,360
topic, please go ahead and Yeah, you can

2158
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:08,800
go ahead and go to the podium and you

2159
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,239
can give me a speaker card after. Yes.

2160
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:13,440
>> Yeah. Welcome. If you could just

2161
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:15,679
introduce your um name.

2162
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:16,880
>> Introduce yourself.

2163
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,080
>> Yes. I'm Mark Morates and I reside uh

2164
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,600
ownership at 881 Caliba Road,

2165
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,360
>> this park area. Um, I'm an architect

2166
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,560
environmentalist and I'm a little bit

2167
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,719
confused about leaving the tiered rate.

2168
01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:37,679
Uh, because I think that with the tiered

2169
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:41,760
rate, it speaks of sustainability

2170
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,600
uh that you kind of want to approach

2171
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,920
your usage uh on the lower tier that you

2172
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,880
possibly can. So you take care of your

2173
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:59,360
property uh your irrigation primarily

2174
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,159
and being very conscious of the use of

2175
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:04,480
water and you actually watch water

2176
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:08,080
source and I see we have a new program

2177
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,560
but I'm very much in favor of the tiered

2178
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,360
rate because that just basically besp

2179
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,560
speaks well I want it lower and I have

2180
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,600
an opportunity to do that to reach these

2181
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,320
levels rather than if it's just one

2182
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,880
level. It's like, and I know this is

2183
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:30,480
kind of a nuance. I mean, you know, you pay as you go and you know, if you

2184
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:34,480
lose use less, you pay less. But if it's

2185
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:36,480
tiered, it just kind of seems that

2186
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:39,120
there's a nuanced

2187
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:43,360
um opportunity to individuals do their

2188
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,159
own thing with conservation. So I I know

2189
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:49,760
we said that we're not into conservation

2190
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,120
in this exercise, but I just think that

2191
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,880
keeping the tiered rate for Hillsboro

2192
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,080
would be a a good good idea for the

2193
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,320
community.

2194
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,400
>> Thank you for those comments. Um do we

2195
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:14,470
have any additional um cards? Um,

2196
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,480
» hello. Welcome. Could you just introduce

2197
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:17,440
your name? Yes.

2198
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:19,840
>> Yes. Uh, good evening, mayor and city

2199
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,679
council members. My name is Dwayne

2200
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:24,639
Musfeld and I reside at 75 Orange Court

2201
01:33:24,639 --> 01:33:28,080
in Hillsboro. And uh certainly this was

2202
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,760
educational for me and I'm sure the

2203
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,159
audience members about reasoning behind

2204
01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:34,320
getting away from the tier which the

2205
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,520
main focus appeared to me to be because

2206
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,790
of conflicting appellet decisions.

2207
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,440
I am a retired lawyer but in that

2208
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:47,520
practice I know that when you have

2209
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,920
conflicting appellet decisions

2210
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,679
ordinarily the Supreme Court will

2211
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:53,679
eventually step in and resolve those

2212
01:33:53,679 --> 01:33:56,320
conflicts. I also appreciate that at

2213
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,000
this point it's uncertain what they will

2214
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,719
do when they finally get to that point.

2215
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:05,840
But my question is if within the next

2216
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,320
year or two or whenever the Supreme

2217
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,639
Court of California does resolve this

2218
01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:13,840
issue and they find for whatever reason

2219
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,360
consistent with what happened in Los

2220
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,000
Angeles in that decision,

2221
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,280
is there a mechanism that at that point

2222
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,480
because that would be the final

2223
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:24,080
resolution subject to whatever the

2224
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,679
legislature might do of course is it

2225
01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:31,840
envisioned that we would then at that

2226
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,360
point when hands would be untied

2227
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,920
go back to the tiered system or is there

2228
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,040
some other reason beyond the conflicting

2229
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,000
appellet decisions that is driving this

2230
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,719
away from the tiered system which seems

2231
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:50,000
to be preferable.

2232
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,120
>> Um I I think I would um welcome a

2233
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,639
comment from our attorney. I mean

2234
01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:56,719
clearly we had been studying this for

2235
01:34:56,719 --> 01:35:01,120
the past many years to try to explain to

2236
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,320
the courts regarding our tiered system

2237
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:10,080
the drivers behind what's driving the co uh the cost for us I mean you're

2238
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,440
right there are other costs that have

2239
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:13,199
been discussed as well infrastructure

2240
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:16,080
costs the cost of purchasing water etc

2241
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,159
but not getting a clear directive from

2242
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:19,679
the courts at this time makes it

2243
01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:23,199
difficult for us to um pursue the

2244
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:25,440
current system we had which was a tiered

2245
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:29,120
system. And um as you stated we we

2246
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,600
really must obviously we're abided by

2247
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,280
whatever the courts decide at this point

2248
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,120
and we'll follow that until we have some

2249
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,960
other flexibility.

2250
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,120
Now when that will happen it's hard to

2251
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,520
know because it would be to potentially

2252
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,120
a different council, different

2253
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,239
circumstances, different environment but

2254
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:49,440
um I I would invite attorney to add any

2255
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:52,320
comments to that in terms of the courts

2256
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,719
and when we would expect the Supreme

2257
01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:57,520
Court to weigh in. Do we have any idea

2258
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,040
when that will be? The state supreme

2259
01:35:59,040 --> 01:35:59,760
court that is.

2260
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,600
>> Yeah. Um no thank you very much and

2261
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,280
thank you for that question. So the

2262
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:04,960
Supreme Court has taken up the Los

2263
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,000
Angeles case. Um that case is fully

2264
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,080
briefed except for the amikas brief

2265
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,560
which is a brief that's submitted from

2266
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,800
friends of the court. Um and we'll be

2267
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,760
submitting that one on July one. So

2268
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,440
after that it will be fully brief but

2269
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:20,960
there is a bit of a backlog right now

2270
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,719
with the Supreme Court. So we are

2271
01:36:22,719 --> 01:36:24,480
expecting an opinion within about a year

2272
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:27,280
and a half. Um, there's also legislation

2273
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,800
there's a legislative effort which the

2274
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,480
town has submitted a letter in support

2275
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:32,880
of that seeks to get clarity by

2276
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,360
codifying the Los Angeles decision into

2277
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,760
statute. Uh, so when those things are

2278
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,920
clarified, it's it leaves an opportunity

2279
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,639
for whomever's on the the city council

2280
01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:45,040
to make a decision at that time as to

2281
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,000
the appropriate race structure.

2282
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,080
>> Thank you and thanks for your comments.

2283
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,199
Appreciate that. any additional um

2284
01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:56,639
comments or questions on this issue?

2285
01:36:56,639 --> 01:36:58,000
>> Thank you, Marco. I don't have any

2286
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,080
speaker cards or raised hands on Zoom,

2287
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,520
but if there's anyone else in the

2288
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,040
audience who would like to speak, I

2289
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:15,030
would invite you to do so now.

2290
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,280
» Yeah, I'm sorry. If you could come to

2291
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,400
the podium, please. I just need to state

2292
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:21,840
your name. We'll get a speaker card from

2293
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,679
you. Thank you.

2294
01:37:23,679 --> 01:37:26,159
>> Um, Linda Lewis, I was just wondering if

2295
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:29,520
you could tell us again about when we

2296
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,320
have to send in the letters about our

2297
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,719
how we feel about this new system

2298
01:37:34,719 --> 01:37:35,520
>> underwater.

2299
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,119
>> Yeah, thank you for the question. They

2300
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:38,639
do need to be submitted uh before the

2301
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:40,880
close of the public hearing. Council may

2302
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,400
decide something this evening about

2303
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,840
continuing the public hearing and so

2304
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,280
there might be more time than this

2305
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,280
evening but let council confirm that

2306
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:48,400
they are going to continue the public

2307
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,159
hearing and if so then we would continue

2308
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:52,320
it to a date certain and by that date

2309
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,000
you would want to get it in in writing

2310
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:54,960
to the clerk.

2311
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:55,840
>> Okay. Thank you.

2312
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,760
>> Um thanks for the question and thanks

2313
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,239
for the response. Um I think I was just

2314
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,159
waiting to see if we have any additional

2315
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:05,840
public comments on this issue before um

2316
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,119
I will ask my um colleagues um any

2317
01:38:09,119 --> 01:38:11,920
additional clarifying question in which

2318
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,480
case seeing none um I would like to

2319
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:16,320
continue the public hearing until m

2320
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,480
until Monday June 22nd 2026 at 6 p.m.

2321
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:23,199
and council chambers at town hall. The

2322
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,880
hearing is being continued in order to

2323
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,000
extend the deadline for legal objections

2324
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:33,040
to June 16, 2026 at 4 p.m. Notice of the

2325
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,000
extended deadline has been mailed to to

2326
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,560
all property owners and customers of

2327
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,719
record. The comments of those

2328
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,480
individuals who spoke this evening have

2329
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:44,719
been included in the record and we ask

2330
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:47,520
that only those who did not speak this

2331
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,159
evening speak at the continued public

2332
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:52,880
hearing. As a reminder, legal objections

2333
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,119
could include the name of the property

2334
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,920
owner or customer of record, address of

2335
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,920
the property, and a description of the

2336
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,080
legal objection with sufficient detail

2337
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,400
to allow the town to determine whether

2338
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,960
any changes to the proposed rates are

2339
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,560
required. The new deadline will be June

2340
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,880
16, 2026 at 4 pm, meaning any additional

2341
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,280
legal objections must be received by the

2342
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,920
city clerk by that time in order to be

2343
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,440
valid.

2344
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:23,119
May I have a motion to continue the

2345
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:25,920
public hearing to June 22nd, 2026 at 6

2346
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:26,960
p.m.

2347
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,320
>> So move.

2348
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,000
>> Does the motion have a second?

2349
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,679
>> Second.

2350
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:33,360
>> Thank you. May I have the roll call,

2351
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:34,960
please?

2352
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,880
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Adams,

2353
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,080
>> yes. Schwang,

2354
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:38,639
>> yes.

2355
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:39,280
>> Crow,

2356
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:39,840
>> yes.

2357
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:40,719
>> Ragdale,

2358
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:42,000
>> yes. Cole,

2359
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,199
>> yes. Thank you.

2360
01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:43,600
>> Thank you.

2361
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,880
>> And then, Mayor Cole, just so we're

2362
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,480
abundantly clear for the public that is

2363
01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:48,960
here, you do have until June 22nd to

2364
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,480
submit that written protest in writing

2365
01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:51,360
to our city clerk.

2366
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,840
>> June, is it June 16th or June 22nd?

2367
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:54,560
>> June.

2368
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:55,440
16th.

2369
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:56,320
>> 16th.

2370
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,040
>> Yeah, maybe L clarify. There's June 16th

2371
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,560
for the objections and there's the

2372
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,920
additional date.

2373
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,760
>> Um, I'm sorry. So, there's there's two

2374
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,440
separate types of documents that can be

2375
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:07,520
filed. One is a legal objection, which

2376
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,360
is if you have a legal concern with the

2377
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,000
rates. Uh those must be filed by June

2378
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,320
16, 2026 by 4 4 PM. Uh however, if you

2379
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,080
just want to submit a protest to say

2380
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,280
that you're opposed to the rate

2381
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,440
increase, you can submit that up until

2382
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:23,360
the close of the public hearing on June

2383
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,239
22nd.

2384
01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:28,080
>> Okay.

2385
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,440
Thank you. Thanks for that

2386
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:32,960
clarification. Um just next a question.

2387
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,360
Because the public comment period has

2388
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,199
been extended, then there's no further

2389
01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:39,199
discussion on this item among council.

2390
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:40,800
Is that correct? In

2391
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,880
>> in terms of public future public comment

2392
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,840
or council discussion

2393
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,520
>> in terms of the legal

2394
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,280
>> this evening? Yes. I think council's uh

2395
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:50,480
done with this item and you could

2396
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:51,920
proceed to your next item. Yes.

2397
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,639
>> Correct. Okay.

2398
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:58,080
Um item 18, resolution adopting the

2399
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,280
proposed fiscal year 2026 to 2027

2400
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,520
operating and capital budget and that

2401
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,840
will be presented by our assistant

2402
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,239
finance director, Rich Santiago.

2403
01:41:08,239 --> 01:41:10,159
>> Good evening, Mayor Coleman and Council.

2404
01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:12,320
Yes. Uh tonight is the public hearing

2405
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,080
adopting a resolution to approve the

2406
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,040
fisc year 2627 proposed operating and

2407
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,679
capital budget. Um the process began in

2408
01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:23,679
February during the city council goal

2409
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:27,040
setting meeting. Uh from there staff uh

2410
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,040
collaborated with departments developing

2411
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,199
the budget book and we presented it to

2412
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:33,840
the financial advisory committee on

2413
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,880
April 28th. Uh then they recommended to

2414
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,400
move forward with the budget and then we

2415
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,119
had a budget study session at the May

2416
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:43,600
11th city council meeting uh which we

2417
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,639
presented to city council and they also

2418
01:41:46,639 --> 01:41:48,159
uh we received feedback from them and

2419
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:50,080
move forward uh with the budget which

2420
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,239
brings us to tonight the formal budget

2421
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:55,520
public hearing adoption.

2422
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,440
We also presented this last time, so I

2423
01:41:57,440 --> 01:41:59,600
won't go into the initiatives in detail,

2424
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,600
but you can see the different categories

2425
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,800
listed. Uh, improve community safety,

2426
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,480
emergency preparedness and resilience

2427
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:09,199
efforts, resiliency efforts, implement

2428
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:11,360
housing element, and maintain compliance

2429
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,000
with state requirements, enhance quality

2430
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,880
of life, ensure long-term financial

2431
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,679
security, and improve transparency,

2432
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:21,440
efficiency, and customer service. Those

2433
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:26,790
are the 2627 city council priorities.

2434
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,560
This is the budget at a glance for

2435
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,480
fiscal year 2627. Total budget is 82.3

2436
01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:36,080
million. It is a 8% decrease um compared

2437
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,040
to the prior year due to uh timing of

2438
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,280
capital improvements um and budget

2439
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,280
amendments that were made to um support

2440
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,520
those projects. And the general fund

2441
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,639
ending reserve is at 26.5

2442
01:42:48,639 --> 01:42:52,000
million. The budget does fund the town's

2443
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,639
uh townwide goals and operations along

2444
01:42:54,639 --> 01:42:56,560
with funding capital spending of about

2445
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,480
11.6 million. There is no new headcount

2446
01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:03,280
uh increase um and no pre-unding for the

2447
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,000
115 trust. Uh this budget does include

2448
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,679
two cost of service studies that you've

2449
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:09,679
heard uh one tonight and then one that

2450
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:12,159
was adopted in May for sewer. So yeah,

2451
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:14,400
both enterprise funds have new cost of

2452
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,320
service studies and this budget does

2453
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,080
comply with uh budget and financial

2454
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:23,270
policies and meets our debt covenants.

2455
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,159
Um this shows the budgets um separated

2456
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:30,159
by fund uh totaling the 83 or 82.3

2457
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:33,040
million. uh the general fund the

2458
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,239
increase for that is primarily driven to

2459
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:39,040
uh from labor and contractual increases

2460
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,280
as well as uh the contribution to

2461
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,880
central county fire department that's a

2462
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:48,400
14% increase um the the capital and

2463
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,000
asset replacement those tend to

2464
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,040
fluctuate based on timing of capital uh

2465
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,760
water there is an increase um as

2466
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,119
mentioned in the last uh topic there is

2467
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,360
an increase in SFP PUC rates. That's

2468
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,040
where we purchase our water. That's

2469
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,520
going up 7.4%.

2470
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:09,840
Uh sewers going down. Um uh sewers going

2471
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,239
down. Uh again, timing of capital as

2472
01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:15,280
well. And then all others primarily the

2473
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,760
0.9 million it comes from police grant

2474
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,960
funding. Uh it's funding uh radio

2475
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,440
consoles, cameras, and then their annual

2476
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:27,669
drone drone program.

2477
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:30,159
And then this is the general fund

2478
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:32,880
summary. It totals 42.8 million for

2479
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,840
revenue. Uh the primary increases of

2480
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,719
that are 5% increase about 1.3 million

2481
01:44:38,719 --> 01:44:41,600
for projected property tax increase and

2482
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,320
then 1.8 million from building and

2483
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,480
planning fees. If you recall uh building

2484
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,480
and planning did a cost of service study

2485
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:51,280
which was put as part of the 2627 budget

2486
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,600
increasing the revenue there. um

2487
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:55,600
expenditures as I mentioned primarily

2488
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,000
labor contractual increases as well as

2489
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:59,280
central county fire department

2490
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,239
contribution uh leaves a net operating

2491
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:05,040
excess of 1.8 8 million. And then we do

2492
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,440
capital transfers uh to fund projects

2493
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:09,679
like storm drain

2494
01:45:09,679 --> 01:45:11,199
um

2495
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:13,360
sorry storm drain uh facilities

2496
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,159
improvements phases of the general plan

2497
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:19,280
as well as the uh town hall complex

2498
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,310
planning.

2499
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,800
Uh Mayor Cole mentioned this earlier. We

2500
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,440
got our um GFO distinguished budget

2501
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:31,440
award for the last fiscal year 2025 26.

2502
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:33,840
Um, I tried to look back how many years

2503
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,080
in a row we we got it. I couldn't go

2504
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,840
that far. It was it was quite a bit. Uh,

2505
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,000
and we anticipate to get it again. So,

2506
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,520
with that, we'll take any questions, but

2507
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,920
our recommendation is to open the public

2508
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,840
hearing, receive comments, close the

2509
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,040
public hearing, and then adopt the

2510
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,480
resolution approving the 2627 budget uh

2511
01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:53,600
for Auburnian capital.

2512
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,520
>> Thank you, Rich Santiago, for the

2513
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,280
presentation. And any clarifying

2514
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,760
questions from the council?

2515
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,400
Seeing none, any public comment on this

2516
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,880
um item.

2517
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,560
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any

2518
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,880
speaker cards uh in the room, but I'll

2519
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:13,030
give it a moment on Zoom.

2520
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:17,199
Not seeing any raised hands. Thank you.

2521
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:19,360
>> Okay. Um bring it back to council for

2522
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:23,119
comments. Yes. Um Vice Mayor Ragdale,

2523
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:25,440
>> uh we're so excited to have some members

2524
01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:27,600
of the public here. Uh just wanted to

2525
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,840
let you know those of you watching that

2526
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,480
um we don't take this lightly. It is it

2527
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,360
is a lot of money but um as uh Mr. Sant

2528
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,480
Santiago presented this is I don't know

2529
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:40,880
the third fourth fifth time we've we've

2530
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,719
gone over the budget. We get a beautiful

2531
01:46:42,719 --> 01:46:45,040
big budget book that we review all

2532
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,119
weekend in midMay. Then we have a formal

2533
01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:49,440
presentation uh and we have separate

2534
01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:52,960
presentations on the fees. So, um, just

2535
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,119
wanted to let you know we do carefully

2536
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:58,320
consider this, um, important budget.

2537
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,080
>> Yes, Council Member Adams.

2538
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,080
>> And just to add on to that, we also get

2539
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,119
advice from the financial advisory

2540
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:10,239
committee that reviews it before we even

2541
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:16,000
get it. So, uh, it's thoroughly vetted.

2542
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,280
Okay. Um, do we see no additional

2543
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:21,520
comments? Do we have a motion to adopt a

2544
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,760
resolution approving fiscal year 2026

2545
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,960
2027 proposed operating capital budget?

2546
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,719
So moved. You have a second.

2547
01:47:30,719 --> 01:47:32,960
>> Um could we take a roll call, please?

2548
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:34,639
>> Adams,

2549
01:47:34,639 --> 01:47:36,320
>> yes.

2550
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:36,960
>> Kurlic,

2551
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:37,360
>> yes.

2552
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:38,159
>> Ragdale,

2553
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:38,639
>> yes.

2554
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:39,520
>> Call,

2555
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:40,080
>> yes.

2556
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,360
>> Thank you.

2557
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:46,800
Motion carries 5. Um item 19

2558
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,840
um resolution approving the category 3

2559
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,159
grade grading permit application for the

2560
01:47:52,159 --> 01:47:54,800
construction of private improvement at

2561
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,239
101 Robin Road under SQA guidelines

2562
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:03,510
15303

2563
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,560
and that will be present. There you are

2564
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,520
Mr. Belch. Thank you so much.

2565
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,440
>> Uh good evening mayor, vice mayor,

2566
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:13,119
council members. My name is Doug

2567
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:14,719
Belchek. I'm the associate civil

2568
01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:16,800
engineer for the town of Hillsboro and I

2569
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,239
will be presenting tonight's public

2570
01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:20,880
hearing item on the category 3 grading

2571
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:25,280
permit application for 101 Robin Road.

2572
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,280
Uh staff and property owner

2573
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,440
representatives are available after the

2574
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:34,950
presentation to answer any questions.

2575
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,679
Uh getting started. 101 Robin Road is

2576
01:48:37,679 --> 01:48:39,920
located in central Hillsboro right near

2577
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,600
the intersection with Robin Road and uh

2578
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:49,350
Rston A as shown here.

2579
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,000
As is consistent with all uh private

2580
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,920
property development in town, the

2581
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,560
homeowners of 101 Robin Road applied for

2582
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,280
and received a grading permit for the

2583
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,440
construction of an ADU and some addition

2584
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:04,239
to the main residence on the property.

2585
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:07,840
Um afterwards, they decided to revise

2586
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,320
their current active grading permit to

2587
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,600
include some additional site

2588
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,159
improvements which now include a sports

2589
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:16,000
court, a new driveway, some new

2590
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,440
landscaping, a spa, and some patios.

2591
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:22,480
All of that was approved by ADRB back in

2592
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,760
June 20, 2024 and were deemed

2593
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:31,510
categorically exempt from SQA.

2594
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:35,520
Per the municipal code 1224, projects

2595
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,719
that have an excess of 1,500 cubic yards

2596
01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:42,000
of onhaul or offhaul are required to be

2597
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,800
approved at a city council meeting at a

2598
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,960
public hearing. The quantities

2599
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,119
associated with this specific project

2600
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,760
are 2,125

2601
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,360
cubic yards of export or offhaul.

2602
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,520
Since the project has an active grading

2603
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,760
permit, the contractor is already

2604
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,960
mobilized. So if the permit gets

2605
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,960
approved tonight, uh the contractor is

2606
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,040
ready to get started as soon as

2607
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:11,350
possible.

2608
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,800
and and this slide is just to show uh

2609
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:18,320
the two options of dedicated hall routes

2610
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,800
that the trucks offhauling the soil can

2611
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,040
take. So the first one is going down

2612
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,920
Rston towards El Camino Royale and the

2613
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,880
second one is going up Chateau to

2614
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,719
Skyline.

2615
01:50:30,719 --> 01:50:32,800
The grading and hauling will be limited

2616
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,440
to Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to

2617
01:50:35,440 --> 01:50:39,199
5:00 pm and 9:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. when

2618
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:41,760
school is in session.

2619
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,239
To help mitigate the impacts of the

2620
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:46,480
heavy trucks traveling on Hillsboro

2621
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:48,639
roads, the applicant will be charged

2622
01:50:48,639 --> 01:50:51,600
vehicle impact fees which will later uh

2623
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,040
be used towards future street

2624
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:56,239
resurfacing projects in town.

2625
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:58,800
And as required by the municipal code,

2626
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,360
Hillsboro residents located within 500

2627
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,920
feet of the property were noticed for

2628
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,119
this public hearing. Uh, and as of

2629
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:08,960
today, staff hasn't received any

2630
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,040
complaints regarding the specific hall

2631
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:12,880
routes that the trucks have been taking

2632
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:17,430
for the active grading permit.

2633
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:20,480
And with that, I can take any questions.

2634
01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:22,000
>> Thank you for the presentation. Any

2635
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,239
questions from the council? Yes, council

2636
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:26,719
member Cwley. Thanks, Tag. Appreciate

2637
01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:29,119
it. Um, how long is this project

2638
01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:30,800
expected to go on? I mean, I think

2639
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,719
there's been construction on this site

2640
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:35,360
already for over 18 months.

2641
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,560
>> Uh, correct. If I remember correctly, I

2642
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,320
believe the first grading permit was

2643
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,800
approved in 2023 and that was for the

2644
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,199
ADU and the home or the additions to the

2645
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:47,840
home and then afterwards now they um

2646
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,040
they're proposing some additional

2647
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,840
improvements. So, it um it may be a

2648
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:52,639
little longer. Yes.

2649
01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:54,080
>> So, when when are they going to wrap

2650
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,480
this up?

2651
01:51:56,480 --> 01:51:58,239
That is a great question. Unfortunately,

2652
01:51:58,239 --> 01:51:58,639
I don't know.

2653
01:51:58,639 --> 01:52:00,480
>> No, I was on a property adjacent to it

2654
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:04,320
on Rston and it's noisy. Um, how can

2655
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,080
they mitigate the impact on the

2656
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:11,750
neighbors?

2657
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,000
I would have to defer to the contractor,

2658
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:18,000
but I would say that um once the once

2659
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,040
the construction project is done, um I

2660
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,639
know that the resident, not excuse me,

2661
01:52:22,639 --> 01:52:25,679
not the resident, the um

2662
01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:27,760
the architect had mentioned that uh they

2663
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,360
wanted to in to put in some landscaping.

2664
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,199
Um but that's of course after

2665
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:34,880
construction's done.

2666
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,560
Well, and then my last question, maybe

2667
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,320
Nataline's gonna, is is are we

2668
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,040
collecting fees for any potential damage

2669
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,800
to the roads?

2670
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,679
>> Yes, that would be the the impact fees,

2671
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:47,280
the vehicle impact fees.

2672
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:47,679
>> Thank you.

2673
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:49,599
>> Um, and to answer your previous

2674
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:51,760
question, sorry I butchered it. Um, I

2675
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,679
believe the uh architect is on Zoom,

2676
01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:57,599
Eric Nas.

2677
01:52:57,599 --> 01:53:02,229
>> Oh, it's Eric. Hello, Eric.

2678
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,480
Um, do you have anything to add about

2679
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:07,119
how they can mitigate this ongoing

2680
01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:08,800
noise?

2681
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,080
>> Hello.

2682
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,159
>> Yes, members of the council. Hello. Uh,

2683
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:13,360
good evening. I'm sorry I couldn't be

2684
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,760
there in person this evening. Um, on a on a trip for my daughter's

2685
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:19,119
graduation that couldn't be uh couldn't

2686
01:53:19,119 --> 01:53:21,840
be altered, unfortunately. So, um, thank

2687
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,920
you for for your focus on this matter

2688
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,040
and and your questions. Um, yes, it's

2689
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,599
been sort of a a progressive project in

2690
01:53:29,599 --> 01:53:32,480
that they uh like Doug said, we had an

2691
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:35,760
open grading permit for the ADU and this

2692
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,239
new driveway that was actually uh

2693
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:40,080
improved for firet truck access because

2694
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,800
the original driveway was very very much

2695
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,920
uh uh a bunch of hair pins and uh turns

2696
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,360
that were very difficult for a truck to

2697
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,920
make. So, we've improved the driveway in

2698
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,320
the first uh grading permit and then the

2699
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,599
second one came up as a result of uh a

2700
01:53:55,599 --> 01:53:57,679
desire to create a small accessory

2701
01:53:57,679 --> 01:54:00,480
structures um with an with a sport

2702
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:04,159
court. Um and so it is it is a bit of a

2703
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,400
longer project, but it's um but it's a

2704
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,320
large project. And I think the good

2705
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,440
thing is that the large majority of of

2706
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:13,840
the big earth moving has largely been

2707
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,239
done. And so I think there'll be less

2708
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:18,480
heavy equipment out there and more focus

2709
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:21,040
on on constructions, you know, hammering

2710
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,280
nails, things like that, uh versus heavy

2711
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:24,719
equipment. Now, there's still need to

2712
01:54:24,719 --> 01:54:30,320
offhaul the dirt. Um but a way to uh to make that more efficient is to finish

2713
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,560
off the driveway that we have uh because

2714
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,880
it's not completely done. Uh but Doug

2715
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,639
and Paul and and the teams at the

2716
01:54:36,639 --> 01:54:37,920
engineering and public works have been

2717
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,159
great in working with us too to allow us

2718
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:42,400
to finish off the first grading permit

2719
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,800
before we activate this revision and

2720
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,280
amended uh grading permit for the larger

2721
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,960
scope of work. So they are um you know

2722
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,719
trying to plow ahead as as quickly as

2723
01:54:52,719 --> 01:54:54,880
possible and as Doug mentioned if this

2724
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,199
is approved they're ready to go tomorrow

2725
01:54:57,199 --> 01:55:03,199
to continue this so we can keep this as um as expedited as possible.

2726
01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:04,400
Thank you.

2727
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,800
>> Thank you. Um, Council Member Adams has

2728
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,000
questions. Yes.

2729
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,960
>> Yes. Uh, thank you very much, Doug. Uh,

2730
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:16,000
this your report, uh, talked about 213

2731
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:19,280
round trips, and maybe if Eric stays on,

2732
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,840
I tried to figure out how many a day

2733
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,679
that might be. uh even if if it's four

2734
01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:29,920
days this will be 50 days for four uh

2735
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:33,920
trucks truckloads a day would be 50 more

2736
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:37,679
days and I so I wanted to know about how

2737
01:55:37,679 --> 01:55:39,760
long there would be these large trucks

2738
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,760
but in addition

2739
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,199
uh we are we do have construction at

2740
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:49,440
Crocker school at the same time and

2741
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,840
there could be congestion with these

2742
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,920
large trucks because there'll be

2743
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,800
construction trucks also uh either

2744
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,599
dealing with rston or trying to head to

2745
01:55:59,599 --> 01:56:01,679
El Camino. So, those are my two

2746
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:04,239
questions.

2747
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:06,159
>> Uh I can take the second one, Eric, if

2748
01:56:06,159 --> 01:56:08,080
you want to take the first one. Um but

2749
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,400
for the hauling routes, absolutely. We

2750
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,480
can we can require the contractor to to

2751
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,520
go up Chateau to Skyline instead.

2752
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,760
Well, at least if that it could be

2753
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:21,280
coordinated with u the work that's

2754
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,159
happening at Crocker.

2755
01:56:24,159 --> 01:56:26,000
>> I think I think that's a great idea and

2756
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,159
I think to the extent that we can we

2757
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:29,360
certainly should and I think it's

2758
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,440
probably most feasible to go north or

2759
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:37,040
excuse me west u to to um to 280 in the direction of 280. And then as far

2760
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,040
as the number of trucks, I don't know

2761
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,520
exactly what the contractors uh my guess

2762
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,040
is it'll be more front-loaded. They'll

2763
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,639
take a bunch of those. So, it'll be more

2764
01:56:44,639 --> 01:56:47,040
than four trucks a day for for a period

2765
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:49,920
of time. Um, and hopefully get it off

2766
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,239
sooner rather than later. You know, uh

2767
01:56:52,239 --> 01:56:54,239
um 213 I think that includes what's

2768
01:56:54,239 --> 01:56:57,199
already been graded. So, um a portion of

2769
01:56:57,199 --> 01:56:58,639
that's already been done. So, that

2770
01:56:58,639 --> 01:57:04,310
number will should come down.

2771
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,480
» Um council member,

2772
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,840
>> thank you. Um, so Doug, could you go

2773
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,320
back to the route that the picture of

2774
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,679
the route that you shown?

2775
01:57:15,679 --> 01:57:17,199
So

2776
01:57:17,199 --> 01:57:20,159
this route is that for all the trucks

2777
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:22,239
that are going by, this is the route

2778
01:57:22,239 --> 01:57:25,119
that they're taking to the skyline

2779
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:27,040
>> specifically for this project. Yes.

2780
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,840
>> Okay. So in the past we do have in other

2781
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,639
neighborhoods where they they have the

2782
01:57:32,639 --> 01:57:34,480
grading and then they were very

2783
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,520
sensitive to the neighbors noise and to

2784
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,840
council member Krlic's um comments

2785
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,280
regarding the noise it is in that area

2786
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,159
sort of in the valley where the noise

2787
01:57:46,159 --> 01:57:48,320
even called

2788
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,760
exacerbated I would say so um to the

2789
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:55,280
extent that um

2790
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,840
will the contractor be able to mitigate

2791
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,719
it either a shorter times for more

2792
01:58:00,719 --> 01:58:03,360
frequencies or is there any way where

2793
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:06,639
they can so it's not a prolonged

2794
01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:09,599
um whole day hauling but rather that

2795
01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:12,400
they can trying to condense it in a way

2796
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:16,159
that makes more sense and least um

2797
01:58:16,159 --> 01:58:19,040
intrusive to the neighbors and to the um

2798
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:22,400
you know uh to the cars on the street or

2799
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,880
the you know bicycle cyclists on the

2800
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,960
Yeah, it'll uh ultimately be up to the

2801
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,280
contractor to determine schedule of of

2802
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:33,520
when to offhaul, but for the town

2803
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,040
specifically, we can require, for

2804
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,880
example, the second set of hours where

2805
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,679
it's 9:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. where

2806
01:58:39,679 --> 01:58:42,000
instead of being too early or too noisy,

2807
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,639
too early or too late. Um, we could we

2808
01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:46,080
could require that.

2809
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,760
>> Yeah, I I think that would be much

2810
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,320
appreciated by all uh just in in terms

2811
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,159
of everyone understand that construction

2812
01:58:52,159 --> 01:58:53,920
is happening especially in the

2813
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,400
summertime. um you know so that is

2814
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,040
always a fine line as to how to go about

2815
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,840
getting it done um but at the same time

2816
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,840
without dragging it on to try to reduce

2817
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,520
the noise and the dust will be just

2818
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,360
awesome. Thank you.

2819
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:10,480
>> Thank you. Um Vice Mayor Rexdale.

2820
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:12,560
>> Uh thank you. Just a super quick point

2821
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:16,800
about the school. Um it school here in

2822
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,800
town is going later than usual this year

2823
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,199
because um they started later because of

2824
01:59:21,199 --> 01:59:23,920
construction. So it's still in session.

2825
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,119
So, just want to make sure they know

2826
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:26,719
that because it is later than normal. It

2827
01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:29,360
doesn't get out till June 17th. And

2828
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,920
also, uh, if if things are still the

2829
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:33,599
same, they have early release on

2830
01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:36,000
Thursday, so the hours should be

2831
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:39,199
adjusted for Thursdays. Thank you.

2832
01:59:39,199 --> 01:59:41,440
>> Thank you. Um, we'll now turn for public

2833
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,280
comments. Do we have any public comments

2834
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,400
on this issue either in chambers or via

2835
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,639
Zoom?

2836
01:59:48,639 --> 01:59:50,320
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any

2837
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,000
speaker cards but we have a couple of

2838
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,119
raised hands on Zoom. I'll start with um

2839
01:59:55,119 --> 01:59:57,440
Shala.

2840
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:58,480
>> Hello Shala.

2841
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:02,480
>> Hello. I'm Shala Sadi and I live at 1190

2842
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:06,480
Barrier and uh this project I'm a

2843
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:10,480
neighbor of theirs and uh I was really

2844
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,119
uh more concerned about all the changes

2845
02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:17,520
in grading as to how it impacts the

2846
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,880
creek because my property the creek ends

2847
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:22,960
on my property and if there's too much

2848
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,400
water like there was in 2022 with the

2849
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:29,280
atmospheric river there was flooding.

2850
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,320
So I just wanted to understand

2851
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:37,920
um with the changes if uh um you know

2852
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,719
they have adequate protection

2853
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:42,560
um for

2854
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,880
mitigating any kind of flooding into my

2855
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,040
property.

2856
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:48,880
>> Doug, I'm happy to comment on this too,

2857
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:50,560
Doug.

2858
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:53,760
>> Um yes. Um Eric, if you could weigh in

2859
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,119
on this in terms of drainage um

2860
02:00:57,119 --> 02:00:58,400
>> Sure. I think what's I think what's

2861
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:00,239
actually advantageous with this project

2862
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:01,840
and most projects that are new in this

2863
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,520
town is that the rules require us to to

2864
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:08,960
try and and and and adapt the site to

2865
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,040
retain more water than it normally would

2866
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:13,840
have in in in the historic past. So, um

2867
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:15,199
the advantage here is that we've been

2868
02:01:15,199 --> 02:01:18,239
able to engineer uh large retention

2869
02:01:18,239 --> 02:01:20,960
tanks under the ground. I mean 5t in

2870
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,199
diameter and I don't know they're 25 ft

2871
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:24,880
long or something. And they're really

2872
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:26,480
designed to collect a lot of this water

2873
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,560
that that

2874
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,080
prior to this project would have run

2875
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,280
right to that creek uh and down Miss

2876
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:36,000
Sadi's uh property. And so this project

2877
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,239
in in particular hasn't affected the

2878
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:41,040
creek uh in any way. Uh we've had a

2879
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:42,880
biologist on site establish the top of

2880
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,159
bank and make sure that we're clear of

2881
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:46,880
it. We have letters. So we're we're at

2882
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:47,920
the end of the day, we're actually

2883
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:52,400
probably making this better um from a water drainage perspective. And I

2884
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:53,920
think the town has plans ultimately to

2885
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:55,920
put a a slle gate in the middle of the

2886
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,480
road that is on the edge of this

2887
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,520
property's um uh the creek at the end of

2888
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,199
the creek next to the roadway there

2889
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:04,800
which will also help sort of control the

2890
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,199
flows of the waters. So all that's been

2891
02:02:07,199 --> 02:02:08,639
you know new in the last two or three

2892
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:10,239
years which wouldn't have existed prior.

2893
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:13,679
So a lot of advancements have been made.

2894
02:02:13,679 --> 02:02:13,920
Uh

2895
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:17,280
>> thanks for that uh feedback and any

2896
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:20,080
additional public comments? Uh yes. Uh

2897
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:25,510
Jazella.

2898
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,119
» Hello Jazella.

2899
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:28,400
>> Yes. Hello.

2900
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,800
>> Um

2901
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,840
let me just start. And I am Jazella

2902
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,679
Shiano. This is my daughter Natalia.

2903
02:02:37,679 --> 02:02:38,639
>> Shiano.

2904
02:02:38,639 --> 02:02:42,880
>> Hi. Uh I'm Natalia. We reside at 1186

2905
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,920
Burial Drive and our house is situated

2906
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,080
just downhill of the property at 101

2907
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:50,719
Robin Road. Since the very beginning of

2908
02:02:50,719 --> 02:02:52,960
this lengthy construction job at 101

2909
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:55,280
Robin Road, myself and a few neighbors

2910
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:56,560
included have been dealing with the

2911
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,239
recurring issue of excessive water

2912
02:02:58,239 --> 02:03:00,880
draining into neighboring yards. While

2913
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:02,960
the drainage was partially addressed, it

2914
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:04,960
proved insufficient during the last few

2915
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:07,760
large storms. We observed very large

2916
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,520
amounts of water passing through our

2917
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:11,760
property onto the road and beginning

2918
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,080
towards the opposite side of the street

2919
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,719
on some occasions. This lack of control

2920
02:03:16,719 --> 02:03:19,920
is very concerning to us. Our primary

2921
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:21,520
concern in regards to the grading

2922
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,119
proposition is whether or not new

2923
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:24,880
drainage will be implemented to

2924
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,199
adequately contain the water. We have

2925
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:28,880
little faith in the existing drainage

2926
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:30,800
based on experience and I'm concerned

2927
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:32,480
the grading will cause more strain than

2928
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,400
the current drainage can handle.

2929
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:36,000
Considering the lack of planning

2930
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,239
regarding the grading to begin with,

2931
02:03:38,239 --> 02:03:40,400
what plans are in place to ensure the

2932
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,080
grading project will not cause further

2933
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:45,360
issues with drainage? And finally, a

2934
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:47,280
quick side note for the city. A

2935
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:48,800
discussion about raising drainage

2936
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,719
standards may be worthwhile, especially

2937
02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:53,599
considering the incoming El Nino storms.

2938
02:03:53,599 --> 02:03:55,599
Um, we're wondering, are the current

2939
02:03:55,599 --> 02:03:58,480
25-year storm standards sufficient or do

2940
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,080
we need to consider a more robust

2941
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,920
drainage standard to deal with changing

2942
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:05,589
climates?

2943
02:04:05,599 --> 02:04:07,760
Um, thanks for those for that question

2944
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:11,360
and comments. Um, m Mr. uh Ni House, you

2945
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,280
you've commented already on the existing

2946
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,760
drainage. Um, is it subsequent to um

2947
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,560
what the resident commented on?

2948
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,199
>> Sure, I'm I'm happy to answer that. uh

2949
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:25,360
you know there is no grading currently

2950
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,520
being uh proposed other than what's been

2951
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:29,760
done along that property line that

2952
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,520
borders all the Blay um uh properties

2953
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,920
and I know that uh the house prior to

2954
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,360
the new owner um working on it the the

2955
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:40,880
water system the water drainage system

2956
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:42,400
that was adjacent to the house between

2957
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:44,719
the properties was clogged up a lot of

2958
02:04:44,719 --> 02:04:46,800
silt in there was not functioning

2959
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,320
properly and there was a new drain pipe

2960
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,639
run along that whole property to

2961
02:04:52,639 --> 02:04:55,840
redirect it and the collection well, if

2962
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,000
you will, that was next to the house uh

2963
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,159
was cleared up and made to function a

2964
02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:02,719
lot better. So, um this is the first

2965
02:05:02,719 --> 02:05:07,040
I've heard of the drainage issues on the neighbors. So, I'm happy to to

2966
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:08,239
discuss this further with a civil

2967
02:05:08,239 --> 02:05:10,880
engineer and see see what other remedies

2968
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,599
there might be. Um but again, it's the

2969
02:05:13,599 --> 02:05:15,520
first I've heard of it. So, I'll I can

2970
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,280
certainly ask the uh the professionals

2971
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:19,040
involved in the project.

2972
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:20,960
>> Yeah. and and our director of public

2973
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,280
works, one of the very top civil

2974
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,440
engineers perhaps in the state is here

2975
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:26,560
to comment on that.

2976
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,320
>> Thank you for the the compliment, madame

2977
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:29,679
mayor, and it's something we talk about

2978
02:05:29,679 --> 02:05:32,480
often in the county level. The um the

2979
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,280
property I visited there long before the

2980
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:38,000
project and the property literally has a

2981
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,880
river that runs through it, a a big

2982
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,560
waterway that's been carved through

2983
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,880
thousands of years. Uh it is

2984
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,040
unreasonable for us for us to ask any

2985
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,679
resident to mitigate all the water that

2986
02:05:49,679 --> 02:05:51,119
comes from the hillside because it

2987
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:53,679
originates up near 280. Uh but to the

2988
02:05:53,679 --> 02:05:56,239
credit of Mr. Nyas and his team and

2989
02:05:56,239 --> 02:05:58,400
their civil engineers, they do have and

2990
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,280
they've con designed really really large

2991
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:03,920
detention systems. Uh the reality is

2992
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,560
yes, as our resident who called in from

2993
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:09,840
Burial said, uh the standards are 25

2994
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,920
years and that's the maximum we can ask

2995
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:13,840
for. Uh we would love to have a

2996
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,239
hundred-year detention system, but that

2997
02:06:16,239 --> 02:06:19,840
is way above and beyond uh what we can

2998
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,719
ask for and in most cases would be not

2999
02:06:22,719 --> 02:06:25,920
affordable for a resident to do. Uh the

3000
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:28,000
issue that we have with most drainage

3001
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:31,360
systems throughout town and on the p

3002
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:33,119
public and private side is when you have

3003
02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:35,360
an atmospheric river and you have

3004
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,639
multiple days of massive storms, the

3005
02:06:38,639 --> 02:06:41,360
detention systems don't have a way to

3006
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,520
flush out what's there. So they're

3007
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,840
detaining and then if you have a storm

3008
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:47,679
that occurs two days later, they've

3009
02:06:47,679 --> 02:06:49,280
filled up and then they've lost that

3010
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:51,520
capacity. So when we have these big

3011
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,920
atmospheric rivers where two days later

3012
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:55,440
you have a hundred-year storm then you

3013
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,239
have another large storm happening none

3014
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:00,320
of the systems can accommodate that and

3015
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,800
that's where really we end up going back

3016
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:05,760
into the local waterways. Um we can ask

3017
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:08,639
for the maximum that's practical. We can

3018
02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:10,960
ask the resident to go above and beyond

3019
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:13,119
and in many cases they do that. I know

3020
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:16,000
in the case here on Robin Road uh my

3021
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:17,599
understanding is the work is not yet

3022
02:07:17,599 --> 02:07:19,840
completed. Uh what we can do to make

3023
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:21,599
sure that the resident does a good job

3024
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:24,480
on a yearly basis is there is a storm

3025
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:26,079
water treatment measures maintenance

3026
02:07:26,079 --> 02:07:27,840
agreement that is recorded against the

3027
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:29,440
property. Not just this owner, but it's

3028
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,239
on the property. And on an annual basis,

3029
02:07:32,239 --> 02:07:34,320
our staff or other professionals

3030
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,159
actually check these systems to make

3031
02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:38,000
sure they're clear, they have maximum

3032
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,840
capacity, and they're maintained. So

3033
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,760
that's the one guarantee we can do once

3034
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:45,119
the project is completed.

3035
02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:47,760
that is um very helpful information

3036
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:50,239
about the monitoring of the drainage

3037
02:07:50,239 --> 02:07:52,880
system ongoing subsequently. I think

3038
02:07:52,880 --> 02:08:00,639
that that's um very helpful. Um I would really like to finish this item

3039
02:08:00,639 --> 02:08:03,440
um before we take a break.

3040
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,079
>> Yes. Go ahead. Yeah.

3041
02:08:06,079 --> 02:08:11,920
Uh uh can can we since this is uh before

3042
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:15,280
council and they need council approval

3043
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,840
for the creating could we attach a

3044
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,400
condition that it's a larger drainage

3045
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,639
system is required.

3046
02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:25,040
>> So they've already done a proposed one

3047
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:28,960
to the maximum um extent possible uh

3048
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,360
other than going through a redesign and

3049
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:33,119
again what we do is we look at the

3050
02:08:33,119 --> 02:08:36,239
precondition and the post. to as Mr. Ny

3051
02:08:36,239 --> 02:08:38,800
said we actually make them uh construct

3052
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:41,119
and detain well beyond what was there

3053
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:42,880
pre-existing and before this project

3054
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,440
there was nothing you was just a creek

3055
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:47,199
that ran through it and and local

3056
02:08:47,199 --> 02:08:49,040
vegetation. So now there is at least a

3057
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,520
backdrop and a way to slow down the

3058
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,560
water and that initial storm. Um,

3059
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:57,040
>> is there anything in this extra grading

3060
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,800
that leads to more water runoff than

3061
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:02,800
>> There's nothing that leads to increased

3062
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,880
water runoff because the impervious

3063
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:08,560
areas are calculated and designed for

3064
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:10,960
and detained above and beyond what's

3065
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:14,400
added. So, it is definitely improved.

3066
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:16,960
It does and it does not increase uh

3067
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,679
>> so allowing this extra grading with the

3068
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:21,440
drainage system that's being installed

3069
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:23,520
it will improve the runoff from the way

3070
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:24,800
it is now.

3071
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,800
>> It will improve the runoff from what it

3072
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,639
is presently. Absolutely.

3073
02:09:28,639 --> 02:09:30,320
>> Thank you.

3074
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:34,320
Um I see that we have two um comments or

3075
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,000
two hands up on Zoom but it's the same

3076
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:38,000
individuals and they've already um

3077
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,719
spoken to this issue. Do we have any new

3078
02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:44,159
um resident comments from the public?

3079
02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:46,719
>> Uh no, Mayor Cole, we do not.

3080
02:09:46,719 --> 02:09:49,440
>> Um we we really um need to move the

3081
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:54,400
agenda along. And um we can also have um

3082
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,880
Shala and Jazilla could you submit

3083
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,599
additional comments and to the city

3084
02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:02,480
clerk and we could certainly add that to

3085
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,040
uh the comments but I I don't city

3086
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:07,280
attorney I don't believe we um need to

3087
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,760
go into more discussion with regards to

3088
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,280
public comments at this point.

3089
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:13,040
>> No Mayor Cole I think if the council's

3090
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:14,560
ready to take action you are free to do

3091
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:16,000
so. If you feel like you need more

3092
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,199
information, we could take that

3093
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:18,719
direction tonight and bring this back if

3094
02:10:18,719 --> 02:10:20,400
you want to continue the item. But the

3095
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,159
item is ready for you to take action on

3096
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:23,520
tonight.

3097
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:26,239
>> Um, do we have any additional question

3098
02:10:26,239 --> 02:10:28,880
or comments from the council? Um, I

3099
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,480
would like to Yeah,

3100
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:31,840
>> Vice Mayor Ragdale,

3101
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:34,079
>> just a quick comment. Um, to the

3102
02:10:34,079 --> 02:10:36,000
residents, you should always feel free

3103
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,199
to come down to town hall and uh someone

3104
02:10:39,199 --> 02:10:42,159
can meet with you and uh further discuss

3105
02:10:42,159 --> 02:10:45,760
any issues that you have. Thank you.

3106
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:46,719
to the mayor. I was just going to

3107
02:10:46,719 --> 02:10:49,119
volunteer. Our residents, they are

3108
02:10:49,119 --> 02:10:50,239
always welcome to come up to

3109
02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:53,040
engineering. Um Mr. Belchick is a good

3110
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:54,880
great host and he can go through the

3111
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,719
plans in detail. We do that with

3112
02:10:56,719 --> 02:10:58,400
residents. The other thing that we can

3113
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:00,560
do and I know Mr. Nyas has has always

3114
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:02,239
been receptive as a good neighbor is

3115
02:11:02,239 --> 02:11:03,840
when the project gets closer to

3116
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:06,239
completion, maybe even a sitewalk just

3117
02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:08,400
so we can show the neighbors how the

3118
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:10,880
improvements should uh improve the

3119
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:11,920
neighborhood.

3120
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,480
>> Right. So, um, Shalo and Jizelle, um,

3121
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:16,960
both the director of public works and,

3122
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:18,960
um, the contractor on this case, Mr.

3123
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,440
Nhouse, is available if you want to

3124
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:23,040
reach out to them. They would be happy

3125
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,760
to go into further discussion to clarify

3126
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,239
and address some of your concerns is

3127
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:30,880
what I'm hearing. In which case, can we

3128
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:32,800
um, do we have a motion to adopt the

3129
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,599
resolution?

3130
02:11:35,599 --> 02:11:37,679
>> Excuse me.

3131
02:11:37,679 --> 02:11:39,119
>> You have additional comment.

3132
02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:40,719
>> I didn't comment yet. I questioned, but

3133
02:11:40,719 --> 02:11:41,599
I didn't comment yet.

3134
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:43,040
>> Okay. please comment.

3135
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:44,400
>> All right, they may proceed.

3136
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,159
>> Um, so first of all, Eric,

3137
02:11:46,159 --> 02:11:47,760
congratulations on your daughter's

3138
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:56,480
graduation. Um, so I would just urge the um the applicant to expedite the

3139
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:58,320
project and wrap it up as soon as

3140
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:01,280
possible. And I think just as a town, we

3141
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:04,079
maybe need to learn, we maybe need to

3142
02:12:04,079 --> 02:12:07,280
look at this issue of these serial

3143
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:10,719
permits. So every permit that's issued,

3144
02:12:10,719 --> 02:12:13,199
someone is given 24 months to wrap up

3145
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:15,360
the project. But this was issued a

3146
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,119
permit two years ago and now there's

3147
02:12:17,119 --> 02:12:19,440
another permit and another permit. So I

3148
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:21,360
think we really need to look at

3149
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,599
considering a time limit for an overall

3150
02:12:23,599 --> 02:12:26,880
project and maybe with that expanding I

3151
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:28,560
think right now when you get a permit

3152
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:29,920
you have 12 months to start

3153
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,719
construction. maybe expanding that time

3154
02:12:32,719 --> 02:12:34,560
so that people get a chance to put their

3155
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:38,000
ducks in a row and once they start get

3156
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:43,920
finished because it's it's you know um I know our applicants try to be

3157
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:46,400
respectful of neighbors. I at least I

3158
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,719
think they do. But residents deserve to

3159
02:12:48,719 --> 02:12:50,320
have some peace in their own homes and

3160
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:51,760
when you have a construction project

3161
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:54,159
like this next door it's it's not

3162
02:12:54,159 --> 02:12:57,920
peaceful. So, that is my um I I'm

3163
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:01,199
inclined to uh vote to approve, but with

3164
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:04,480
the request that that this applicant

3165
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,400
stop asking for more permits and get

3166
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:09,920
this thing wrapped up.

3167
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:12,880
Okay. Um do we have a motion to adopt a

3168
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,040
resolution approving any additional

3169
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:16,639
comments? I assume there's no additional

3170
02:13:16,639 --> 02:13:18,159
comments. will move forward with a

3171
02:13:18,159 --> 02:13:19,840
motion to adopt the resolution approving

3172
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:21,599
the grading permit application for the

3173
02:13:21,599 --> 02:13:23,440
construction of private improvement at

3174
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:26,880
101 Robin Road under SQA guidelines

3175
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,400
15303.

3176
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:29,520
>> So move.

3177
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,079
>> Do we have a second?

3178
02:13:32,079 --> 02:13:33,520
>> Second.

3179
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,440
>> Could you please take the roll call?

3180
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:36,320
Thank you.

3181
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:37,119
>> Adams,

3182
02:13:37,119 --> 02:13:38,560
>> yes.

3183
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:39,199
>> Cru,

3184
02:13:39,199 --> 02:13:39,599
>> yes.

3185
02:13:39,599 --> 02:13:40,400
>> Ragdale,

3186
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:40,719
>> yes.

3187
02:13:40,719 --> 02:13:41,599
>> Cole,

3188
02:13:41,599 --> 02:13:45,920
>> yes. And I will ask um the staff to

3189
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,239
please indulge us for a quick bio break.

3190
02:13:48,239 --> 02:13:51,199
Um five minutes and we will wrap this

3191
02:13:51,199 --> 02:14:00,149
up. Thank you.

3192
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:02,239
We'll now resume uh the city

3193
02:14:02,239 --> 02:14:05,440
council meeting and the final item on

3194
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:07,840
our agenda is an old item. However,

3195
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,560
needed a follow-up. Um item 20, Tobin

3196
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:12,239
Clark housing site updates and

3197
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:14,079
authorization for implementation of

3198
02:14:14,079 --> 02:14:17,040
phase two of the projects. And that will

3199
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,880
be introduced by our assistant city

3200
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:21,599
manager, Mandy Brown, and presented by

3201
02:14:21,599 --> 02:14:24,159
Wendy Baker, principal of Harmony Park

3202
02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:26,159
Development. She will provide the

3203
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:27,360
presentation.

3204
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:30,079
>> Yes. Thank you, Mayor Cole. Um just

3205
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:31,520
going to give some brief opening

3206
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,679
comments. The last time we were here was

3207
02:14:33,679 --> 02:14:35,679
to approve the contract with Harmony

3208
02:14:35,679 --> 02:14:38,800
Park in October. Um and that was an

3209
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,840
approval of the contract but with the uh

3210
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,840
promise to return to the council before

3211
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:45,840
proceeding to phase two. So we are at

3212
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:48,719
the completion of phase one. Um and so

3213
02:14:48,719 --> 02:14:51,599
in a moment Wendy and Don will give a

3214
02:14:51,599 --> 02:14:54,239
robust update in the staff report. Um

3215
02:14:54,239 --> 02:14:56,560
there's a bit of a very high level but I

3216
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:58,239
encourage everyone to read all of the

3217
02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:01,199
attachments uh with a lot more uh

3218
02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:03,440
details on the site evaluation as well

3219
02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:06,159
as financial feasibility. Uh by way of

3220
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:08,320
background, the Tobin Clark housing site

3221
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,639
was one of the sites identified in the

3222
02:15:10,639 --> 02:15:12,960
certified housing element for the town.

3223
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,119
Uh it's part of the commitment to

3224
02:15:15,119 --> 02:15:16,960
fulfill the multifamily housing

3225
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:19,679
requirements for the town. So this

3226
02:15:19,679 --> 02:15:22,079
project represents the execution of that

3227
02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:24,800
component of the housing element. Um and

3228
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:26,400
if there are any specific questions on

3229
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:28,159
the housing element itself, we do have

3230
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:30,800
Liz Reese on the line. Um, but we're uh

3231
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:33,440
here today to focus on really a project

3232
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:35,920
update on where we are uh with regards

3233
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:39,119
to phase one and 1A and 1B before

3234
02:15:39,119 --> 02:15:41,520
proceeding to phase two. So with that,

3235
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:43,840
I'll turn it over to principal of

3236
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:45,840
Harmony Park Development, Wendy Baker

3237
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,639
and Don Kapres.

3238
02:15:48,639 --> 02:15:50,719
>> Welcome, Miss Baker.

3239
02:15:50,719 --> 02:15:52,960
>> Thank you. Thank you, Mandy. Uh thank

3240
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:56,400
you for having us. um council um and

3241
02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:58,880
honorable mayor, vice mayor, staff, and

3242
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:00,239
members of the public. It's really great

3243
02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:02,239
to be here to provide an update on what

3244
02:16:02,239 --> 02:16:04,560
we've been doing for the last about six

3245
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,040
months or so since we were last in front

3246
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:09,760
of the council. Uh I'm Wendy Baker. I'm

3247
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:11,840
a principal at Harmony Park Development.

3248
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:13,840
My business partner, Don Capobrace, is

3249
02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:16,320
here as well. He's sort of the financial

3250
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:18,079
chops. I kind of do a lot of the

3251
02:16:18,079 --> 02:16:20,480
consulting um reports and and

3252
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,800
understanding of running the consultant

3253
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:24,639
team like architects, civils and so

3254
02:16:24,639 --> 02:16:26,639
forth.

3255
02:16:26,639 --> 02:16:29,760
So starting at the 10,000 foot level

3256
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:31,760
just an overall executive summary of

3257
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,080
what our findings were over the last six

3258
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:36,319
months. We really treated like this this

3259
02:16:36,319 --> 02:16:38,800
like a due diligence exercise for any

3260
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,280
project. Very preliminary. We walked

3261
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:43,840
into this site never we'd only walked it

3262
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:46,080
once with staff during the RFP process.

3263
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:48,960
So really were learning about this along

3264
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:51,200
the way. And so as a part of our

3265
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:54,479
executive summary, you know, we tested a

3266
02:16:54,479 --> 02:16:56,639
number of different options with the

3267
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:58,719
housing element and the community goals

3268
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,960
at the top of mind.

3269
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:03,359
We did an initial multifamily only

3270
02:17:03,359 --> 02:17:05,519
concept which we ultimately determined

3271
02:17:05,519 --> 02:17:08,399
was infeasible. So then we revise the

3272
02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:10,479
framework um with a mixed housing

3273
02:17:10,479 --> 02:17:12,639
approach that actually does achieve

3274
02:17:12,639 --> 02:17:16,000
feasibility and that also balances the

3275
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:18,479
housing goals, the cost and the open

3276
02:17:18,479 --> 02:17:20,880
space.

3277
02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:23,200
So a little bit of background and some

3278
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:27,280
context. It's a 21.5 acre property. It's

3279
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:30,000
part of the over 50 plus acre townowned

3280
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:32,479
Tobin Clark property.

3281
02:17:32,479 --> 02:17:35,120
Your housing element targets are 100

3282
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:38,160
multifamily units. They include mixed

3283
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:41,519
income uh units. So there's 44 lowincome

3284
02:17:41,519 --> 02:17:44,080
units, six moderate rate, and 50 market

3285
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:46,000
rate homes identified in the h housing

3286
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:48,719
element. And the town also provided us

3287
02:17:48,719 --> 02:17:50,319
some goals that they'd like to retain

3288
02:17:50,319 --> 02:17:53,120
the majority ownership of this land.

3289
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:54,639
They also would like to have an

3290
02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:56,319
opportunity for on-site community

3291
02:17:56,319 --> 02:17:58,639
benefits for community for Hillsboro

3292
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:00,880
residents as a whole, not just the Tobin

3293
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:04,150
Clark residents.

3294
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:06,240
So, our phase one included like kind of

3295
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,880
two subphases so that we had talked

3296
02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:10,559
about this last time we were here. If we

3297
02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:12,080
encountered a challenge, we could always

3298
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:13,679
offramp so we weren't just spending

3299
02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:16,479
money on something infeasible. So we

3300
02:18:16,479 --> 02:18:17,599
spent a lot of time with the

3301
02:18:17,599 --> 02:18:19,840
subcommittee over the last six months

3302
02:18:19,840 --> 02:18:22,319
discussing options and feasibility and

3303
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:25,280
financials but the first phase was due

3304
02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:27,760
diligence. We had to get the consultant

3305
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:30,559
team together to do topographic mapping

3306
02:18:30,559 --> 02:18:33,040
all the contours of the property also do

3307
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:34,719
a lot of utility due diligence

3308
02:18:34,719 --> 02:18:36,960
understand where the tie-ins are and

3309
02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:39,120
also really understand like preliminary

3310
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:40,960
grading so that we could identify where

3311
02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:42,719
the most feasible areas of development

3312
02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:45,519
were. Once we were able to establish

3313
02:18:45,519 --> 02:18:47,439
those things, we went into prelim just

3314
02:18:47,439 --> 02:18:50,080
preliminary master planning. So we did a

3315
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,000
lot of iterative testing and refinement

3316
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:54,000
and then we ran financial physical

3317
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:56,800
feasibility um analysis throughout the

3318
02:18:56,800 --> 02:18:58,960
process.

3319
02:18:58,960 --> 02:19:00,960
So everyone knows this I think but the

3320
02:19:00,960 --> 02:19:03,200
key site constraints which were also

3321
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:04,880
identified in the housing element and

3322
02:19:04,880 --> 02:19:07,359
the related SQA document are steep

3323
02:19:07,359 --> 02:19:09,679
slopes, a limited building area

3324
02:19:09,679 --> 02:19:11,840
buildable areas, biological and

3325
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,639
environmental constraints and then a

3326
02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:17,920
lack of existing on-site infrastructure

3327
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:19,920
although new roadways and utilities that

3328
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,319
would be required are very high cost.

3329
02:19:22,319 --> 02:19:24,080
And then there's access challenges. So

3330
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,160
these were all identified previously and

3331
02:19:26,160 --> 02:19:28,000
we continued to recognize this as we

3332
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,439
went through the due diligence process.

3333
02:19:31,439 --> 02:19:35,280
We initially tested um two multifamily

3334
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,719
buildings. One was a market rate

3335
02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:42,160
building. It was either 50 to 58 units

3336
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:44,559
for sale or rental. So that building

3337
02:19:44,559 --> 02:19:46,399
ranged in size depending on whether it

3338
02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:48,880
was for sale or rental, but it was all

3339
02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:51,120
market rate. And the second building is

3340
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:53,120
an affordable housing building of 51

3341
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:55,840
units. They both were about four and a

3342
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:57,920
half to five stories over two levels of

3343
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:01,120
tiered parking that went into the slope.

3344
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:02,720
And this created the most minimal

3345
02:20:02,720 --> 02:20:04,800
development footprint. And we studied

3346
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,560
that because of the objectives of

3347
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:09,280
minimizing development footprint, town

3348
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:12,080
ownership of the land, and trying to

3349
02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:15,200
achieve 100 units.

3350
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:17,600
But our findings were that there's a

3351
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:19,359
very high construction cost for these

3352
02:20:19,359 --> 02:20:21,200
buildings and the podium parking that

3353
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:23,760
went with them. And then there's very

3354
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:25,760
high infrastructure costs irrespective

3355
02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:27,920
of really what you develop out here

3356
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:30,160
because you have a looped water system.

3357
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:32,080
You have c certain areas where the

3358
02:20:32,080 --> 02:20:34,080
utilities tie in and the related

3359
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:36,640
roadways that serve them. And then

3360
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:38,640
there's on the podium building there's

3361
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:41,359
market limitations. So you have rental

3362
02:20:41,359 --> 02:20:44,640
competition and stacked condominium

3363
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:47,920
competition that sort of limits the um

3364
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:51,840
maximum out sale or rent value. So our

3365
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:53,680
conclusion ultimately was that the

3366
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:55,840
podium market rate program wasn't

3367
02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:58,319
financially feasible but we did get some

3368
02:20:58,319 --> 02:21:00,399
really good input regarding the

3369
02:21:00,399 --> 02:21:02,720
affordable building and so that had the

3370
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:04,720
potential to attract a variety of

3371
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,280
capital sources. So that made it worth

3372
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:08,880
pursuit because that's really the

3373
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:10,720
primary goal here is to get the

3374
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:14,240
affordable building or affordable units.

3375
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,720
But we also knew that we in order for it

3376
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,200
to be viable, we needed a market rate

3377
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:21,920
program that could cover the

3378
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:24,399
infrastructure costs. That's how you get

3379
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:28,479
an affordable program that's viable.

3380
02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:31,680
So we shifted uh we moved away from

3381
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,680
podium market rate buildings, multif

3382
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:36,800
family podium market rate buildings and

3383
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:39,200
we introduced town homes and custom lots

3384
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,720
with ADUs. We maintain the 51 unit

3385
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:45,760
affordable housing building. Um and this

3386
02:21:45,760 --> 02:21:49,439
created a mixed income and mixed housing

3387
02:21:49,439 --> 02:21:52,240
community which actually aligns better

3388
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:54,960
with the Hillsboro context. Uh there's a

3389
02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:57,600
variety of heights. It's not all two

3390
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,080
just larger building forms. It's sort of

3391
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,240
there's variation fits in a little bit

3392
02:22:02,240 --> 02:22:03,439
better with the surrounding

3393
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:06,160
neighborhoods.

3394
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:09,280
So, this is a very highlevel master

3395
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:12,000
plan. There's no architecture. It just

3396
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:14,479
identifies generally where buildings or

3397
02:22:14,479 --> 02:22:16,960
building paths could occur.

3398
02:22:16,960 --> 02:22:18,720
In this revised master plan, there's

3399
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:22,160
about 92 to 94 homes of mixed income

3400
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:25,200
housing. There's in the brown there,

3401
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:28,080
that's a 51 unit affordable building. It

3402
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:30,160
includes 50 affordable and then one

3403
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:31,920
market rate unit. That's a manager's

3404
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,920
unit that's typically in these buildings

3405
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:35,840
and that they charge market rate for

3406
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:39,120
that. There's 24 market rate town homes.

3407
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:41,840
That's in the light blue, sorry, light

3408
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:43,439
brown.

3409
02:22:43,439 --> 02:22:47,280
Then there's 10 market rate custom lots

3410
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:50,319
with the opportunity for ADUs. Those are

3411
02:22:50,319 --> 02:22:53,439
in the yellow dots. And then uh the

3412
02:22:53,439 --> 02:22:56,240
purple dot identifies a lot which could

3413
02:22:56,240 --> 02:22:58,960
change where the location is for a

3414
02:22:58,960 --> 02:23:01,920
community space. Um you can see the

3415
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:04,880
white generally identifying circulation

3416
02:23:04,880 --> 02:23:06,880
or where utilities and or where

3417
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:09,920
utilities could go. And overall this

3418
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:12,960
site plan includes 9.5 acres of

3419
02:23:12,960 --> 02:23:16,479
developed space but 12 acres of open

3420
02:23:16,479 --> 02:23:19,760
space remain. That 9 and a half acres

3421
02:23:19,760 --> 02:23:22,960
includes those halfacre custom lots. So

3422
02:23:22,960 --> 02:23:25,920
five acres of the 9.5 are those custom

3423
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:28,319
lots and then there's another actual

3424
02:23:28,319 --> 02:23:30,800
couple acres of infrastructure as far as

3425
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:35,359
roadways or where utilities go.

3426
02:23:35,359 --> 02:23:37,680
So the financial strategy for this

3427
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:40,160
revised plan was that town homes

3428
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:42,080
ultimately have a lower per square foot

3429
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:44,399
building cost but you can get a higher

3430
02:23:44,399 --> 02:23:47,280
per square foot out sale price. So that

3431
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:49,600
makes the difference and what you can

3432
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:52,560
gain from that more substantial. And

3433
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:54,240
then the custom lots and the addition of

3434
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:57,600
the custom lots was creating additional

3435
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:59,359
revenue without a lot of additional

3436
02:23:59,359 --> 02:24:01,200
costs because we already had to run the

3437
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,120
utilities in these places. So then we

3438
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,680
could create tie-ins which created extra

3439
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:08,479
value and that made it so that the

3440
02:24:08,479 --> 02:24:10,880
market rate portion of the project can

3441
02:24:10,880 --> 02:24:12,640
support the high infrastructure costs

3442
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:14,800
that are here. And then once you unlock

3443
02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:16,800
the infrastructure costs then the

3444
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:18,720
affordable housing component becomes

3445
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:21,280
viable with a variety of capital sources

3446
02:24:21,280 --> 02:24:23,280
and the market rate again subsidizing

3447
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,479
those infrastructure costs.

3448
02:24:26,479 --> 02:24:28,640
So again, we still have these key

3449
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:30,560
challenges which are the topography and

3450
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:32,160
environment, the high infrastructure

3451
02:24:32,160 --> 02:24:35,120
costs, access coordination,

3452
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:38,399
um the affordable housing complexity,

3453
02:24:38,399 --> 02:24:41,520
the funding complexity, and really this

3454
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:43,200
is a smaller project. So this is going

3455
02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:46,479
to be a unique specialized developer. It

3456
02:24:46,479 --> 02:24:49,120
will not be us that comes in and does a

3457
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:53,830
project like this.

3458
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:56,960
But there's a lot of opportunities here.

3459
02:24:56,960 --> 02:25:00,319
This type of revised plan or some

3460
02:25:00,319 --> 02:25:03,040
version of it has the ability to deliver

3461
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:05,359
affordable housing and therefore support

3462
02:25:05,359 --> 02:25:08,479
the housing element. It fits better with

3463
02:25:08,479 --> 02:25:10,240
the surrounding community with the

3464
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:13,359
variety of heights and massing and it

3465
02:25:13,359 --> 02:25:15,439
still does for this portion of the Tobin

3466
02:25:15,439 --> 02:25:17,920
Clark property allow the town to

3467
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:21,200
maintain the majority of ownership. It

3468
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,359
also allows the opportunity for new

3469
02:25:23,359 --> 02:25:26,160
community benefits and the ability to

3470
02:25:26,160 --> 02:25:28,319
attract a development partner with a

3471
02:25:28,319 --> 02:25:30,160
because it's a financially viable

3472
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:32,160
solution. So suddenly you have interest

3473
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:35,600
in actually implementing it.

3474
02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:37,680
So we're here because it's this check-in

3475
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:40,160
and we're moving towards the next steps

3476
02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:42,640
which is really continuing the CSM

3477
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:44,319
outreach. We had some during this

3478
02:25:44,319 --> 02:25:47,439
process. Um, we also would be commencing

3479
02:25:47,439 --> 02:25:49,840
phase two, which is master plan

3480
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,080
refinement. Um, something diff, you

3481
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:53,680
know, with more information than what I

3482
02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:55,600
just showed you.

3483
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:57,760
Defining what the community benefit is

3484
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:00,720
on this site. um really beginning

3485
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:02,720
community outreach like exiting the

3486
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:04,640
subcommittee and entering the community

3487
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:07,760
and getting feedback be being able to

3488
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:09,359
define the secret strategy and

3489
02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:11,520
entitlement strategy for the project and

3490
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,920
then ultimately divine defining if

3491
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:15,760
successful an RFP process for the

3492
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:17,920
development partner

3493
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:21,280
and this identifies 2 A and 2 B. We

3494
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,120
revised our scope slightly, but we're

3495
02:26:23,120 --> 02:26:25,760
still under budget. Um, based off of

3496
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:28,000
this revised site plan and and visioning

3497
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:29,760
that happened.

3498
02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:32,080
And then if phase two is successful,

3499
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:34,080
then we would move towards an RFP

3500
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:36,319
process for a future developer for the

3501
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:38,720
project.

3502
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:40,479
So, I tried to keep it brief because I

3503
02:26:40,479 --> 02:26:42,479
bet there's a lot of questions and so

3504
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:44,399
I'm happy to take any questions from

3505
02:26:44,399 --> 02:26:46,880
councelor or the public and I'm happy to

3506
02:26:46,880 --> 02:26:48,479
also put up that site plan again if

3507
02:26:48,479 --> 02:26:49,680
that's helpful.

3508
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:50,800
>> Thank you, M.

3509
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:53,359
appreciate that. Um, I will turn to the

3510
02:26:53,359 --> 02:26:55,760
council for questions, clarification

3511
02:26:55,760 --> 02:26:58,240
questions, starting with Council Member

3512
02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:00,080
Crowley.

3513
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:01,520
>> Thank you, Wendy, for the presentation

3514
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:03,439
and for the creative thought. Could you

3515
02:27:03,439 --> 02:27:06,160
talk a little bit about access to the

3516
02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:08,800
sites? We're continuing to explore a

3517
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:12,640
variety of access options um through CSM

3518
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:15,439
as well as the utility tie-ins are going

3519
02:27:15,439 --> 02:27:17,359
to be because it's a loop's water

3520
02:27:17,359 --> 02:27:19,520
system, it would have to be just utility

3521
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:23,040
tie-ins at Tobin Clark and then

3522
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:26,880
potential access through Brook Court,

3523
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:29,359
but we're continuing to explore all the

3524
02:27:29,359 --> 02:27:31,200
options because we've only had these

3525
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:35,280
beginning conversations with CSM.

3526
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:36,960
Any additional question from the

3527
02:27:36,960 --> 02:27:40,720
council? Yes. Uh council member. Yes.

3528
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,640
>> Thank you Wendy for your presentation.

3529
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:45,040
Um it's exciting. Um you know because

3530
02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:49,520
it's long time in the making. Um so the

3531
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:52,080
exploration is interesting. My question

3532
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:55,200
is that we know that that open space

3533
02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:58,800
area has no utility whatsoever. That

3534
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:02,240
itself is just a challenge and that on

3535
02:28:02,240 --> 02:28:04,720
top of the egress ingress that we're

3536
02:28:04,720 --> 02:28:06,720
seeking in terms of whether it was

3537
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,520
through CSM or through our own Tobin

3538
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,680
Clark neighborhood. So in your

3539
02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:15,040
discovery, what is what is your take on

3540
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:18,880
the utilities? Um could you elaborate a

3541
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:19,280
little bit?

3542
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:20,960
>> Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest

3543
02:28:20,960 --> 02:28:23,040
constraints honestly. um because it

3544
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:25,520
isn't it's not a surf site. And so the

3545
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:27,600
first thing that we discovered was that

3546
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:29,439
it's was going to cost a lot of money to

3547
02:28:29,439 --> 02:28:32,080
put them in. And so we had an engineer

3548
02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:35,520
run a variety of options, but we want to

3549
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:37,680
tie into town of Hillsboro utilities. We

3550
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:40,080
can't really annex into, you know,

3551
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:43,200
Sanonteo County utilities easily. So we

3552
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:45,920
would keep, you know, tie-ins to your

3553
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,880
town utilities. And in order to really

3554
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:51,200
get a better understanding about how

3555
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,280
extensive of of an operation this would

3556
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:54,720
be, we had the engineer run a

3557
02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:56,720
preliminary engineers estimate so we

3558
02:28:56,720 --> 02:28:58,399
could really understand the quantities,

3559
02:28:58,399 --> 02:29:01,280
the length of the runs, you know, just

3560
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:03,680
all the costs and timing and so forth

3561
02:29:03,680 --> 02:29:05,760
that would be associated with it. So

3562
02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:07,840
that is a big constraint, but we do

3563
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:11,040
think that it's viable um based off of

3564
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:14,319
this revised planning effort.

3565
02:29:14,319 --> 02:29:18,080
>> Okay. So when when you're talking about

3566
02:29:18,080 --> 02:29:20,399
uh the connectivities with the town's

3567
02:29:20,399 --> 02:29:24,160
utility and not because it is closer to

3568
02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:25,600
Sanel

3569
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:28,800
>> um what is the sort of the logic as to

3570
02:29:28,800 --> 02:29:32,080
why you would rather

3571
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:34,960
you tap into the town's what is the

3572
02:29:34,960 --> 02:29:35,680
advantage?

3573
02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:37,359
>> So I don't I don't actually think it's a

3574
02:29:37,359 --> 02:29:39,280
what we would rather do. I think it's

3575
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:40,960
actually what we're permitted to do. And

3576
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:45,280
in order to um to connect to utilities

3577
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:46,880
that aren't within the service area, you

3578
02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:52,319
have to annex into that. And that's a whole process which the county

3579
02:29:52,319 --> 02:29:54,000
or you know the other utility districts

3580
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,560
may or may not be interested in. And CSM

3581
02:29:56,560 --> 02:29:58,080
may or may not be interested in us

3582
02:29:58,080 --> 02:29:59,200
digging all the way through their

3583
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:02,080
property to connect to their utilities.

3584
02:30:02,080 --> 02:30:04,560
They may be, but that is a whole other

3585
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:08,240
process. And so given the fact that this

3586
02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:10,960
is a town of Hillsboro site, it just

3587
02:30:10,960 --> 02:30:13,359
made a lot of sense to utilize the

3588
02:30:13,359 --> 02:30:15,520
existing water system because there is

3589
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:17,439
availability to it and it wouldn't

3590
02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:20,800
significantly decrease be the utility

3591
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:23,280
needs on this property. So that's why we

3592
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:25,359
pursued it because ultimately we don't

3593
02:30:25,359 --> 02:30:28,240
have as much control in saying that they

3594
02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:30,720
would actually annex us into another

3595
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:33,200
AY's utilities.

3596
02:30:33,200 --> 02:30:36,720
Uh yes, go ahead. Um so one other thing

3597
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:38,880
that um you know one of the thing that

3598
02:30:38,880 --> 02:30:40,720
in your presentation you talk about and

3599
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:43,600
I'm somewhat familiar with that area.

3600
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:46,240
You said that the drastic uh difference

3601
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:48,000
in terms of topography

3602
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:51,760
>> and so you know um I suspect that

3603
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:53,359
there's always concern about the

3604
02:30:53,359 --> 02:30:56,960
wildfire and the wildlife you know urban

3605
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:58,479
interface

3606
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:00,240
uh connections.

3607
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:03,520
How do you is is your design by having

3608
02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:07,120
the densities of the low uh the

3609
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:10,319
affordable income uh families and then

3610
02:31:10,319 --> 02:31:13,120
in in sort of in a in a block and then

3611
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:15,520
you have all the single family homes

3612
02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:18,160
sort of in in interburse uh in in

3613
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:21,280
between. Is that is that the design to

3614
02:31:21,280 --> 02:31:24,240
trying to make it more attractive or is

3615
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:34,000
that does that have any advantageous uh point approach on the you know the

3616
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:35,920
electricity it namely?

3617
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:39,439
>> Yeah. So, I mean, this site would be

3618
02:31:39,439 --> 02:31:42,720
serviced by water, which would help with

3619
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:44,399
some of those concerns because it

3620
02:31:44,399 --> 02:31:47,120
currently doesn't have that ability to

3621
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:48,960
tap into water if there was a situation

3622
02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:50,880
out there with fire. As part of our

3623
02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:53,280
phase 2, actually, we would be talking

3624
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:55,359
with the fire department to understand

3625
02:31:55,359 --> 02:31:57,359
access to all of these buildings.

3626
02:31:57,359 --> 02:31:59,439
Obviously, they will have requirements.

3627
02:31:59,439 --> 02:32:01,359
We're not going to be designing these

3628
02:32:01,359 --> 02:32:02,960
buildings. were providing like a

3629
02:32:02,960 --> 02:32:05,200
framework for think you know the

3630
02:32:05,200 --> 02:32:06,640
footprint the overall development

3631
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:09,359
footprint but ultimately a developer

3632
02:32:09,359 --> 02:32:11,280
would come in and propose you know what

3633
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,040
these buildings would actually look

3634
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:15,760
like. Um, so we're kind of master

3635
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:19,120
planning this, but with respect to, you

3636
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:22,080
know, working with the fire, uh, making

3637
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:24,560
sure that it's in the fire safe area. We

3638
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:26,399
have all of that as a part of our phase

3639
02:32:26,399 --> 02:32:28,800
two as we're getting more detailed in

3640
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:30,960
this master planning effort. But again,

3641
02:32:30,960 --> 02:32:33,439
the utilities would serve this site. The

3642
02:32:33,439 --> 02:32:36,080
buildings would per building permit,

3643
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:37,840
some would have to be sprinklered and so

3644
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:40,160
forth. So there would be all of those

3645
02:32:40,160 --> 02:32:41,760
things that would have to be considered

3646
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:44,160
as we move forward in with any type of

3647
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:46,800
real design on the site.

3648
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:48,479
>> Thank you. Of course.

3649
02:32:48,479 --> 02:32:50,240
>> Any additional questions or comments?

3650
02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:54,150
Yes, Vice Mayor Rexdale.

3651
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:56,960
» Thank you. Um super exciting to see

3652
02:32:56,960 --> 02:32:59,680
this. Um as you know, when when we have

3653
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:02,240
the subcommittees with the Brown Act, uh

3654
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:04,000
we don't get to know what's going on.

3655
02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:06,080
So, this has been a great mystery and uh

3656
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:08,399
you guys have worked super hard and this

3657
02:33:08,399 --> 02:33:11,760
is very um intriguing and exciting. Um I

3658
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:13,920
had a couple questions. What is the

3659
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:17,520
looped water system?

3660
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:19,120
>> I'm going to pull I could answer it, but

3661
02:33:19,120 --> 02:33:22,319
he can answer it better. So,

3662
02:33:22,319 --> 02:33:24,560
>> because of the water treatment of water

3663
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:26,240
chloromine, we have to have a loop

3664
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:27,840
system. We can't have it end in a dead

3665
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:29,840
end. Otherwise, it needs to have

3666
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:31,600
flushing and there's a water quality

3667
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:33,280
issue. So all of our systems now are

3668
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:34,399
looped.

3669
02:33:34,399 --> 02:33:36,319
>> Okay. So literally a loop

3670
02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:38,080
>> has a loop. So that's why if we connect

3671
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:41,600
from Tobin Clark down to Brook, then we

3672
02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:43,520
connect the loop. Otherwise, if we

3673
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:45,600
don't, then we have to actually have two

3674
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:48,080
parallel mains in the same roadway with

3675
02:33:48,080 --> 02:33:50,000
a a U-turn somewhere in the middle to

3676
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:52,080
create that loop. So one way or another,

3677
02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:55,120
there'll always be water flowing.

3678
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:59,680
>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Um, yeah, I had the same questions about access

3679
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:03,120
and um and the all the infrastructure,

3680
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:06,640
but it sounds like uh we're we're still

3681
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:10,479
working on that. Um, and uh I know it's

3682
02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:15,760
tricky to um talk with CSM and and see

3683
02:34:15,760 --> 02:34:17,680
what what we can what we can work out

3684
02:34:17,680 --> 02:34:21,359
with them. Um, uh, the other question I

3685
02:34:21,359 --> 02:34:22,720
had, and I know you guys aren't

3686
02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:26,000
designing them right now, but the town

3687
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:28,080
homes,

3688
02:34:28,080 --> 02:34:29,840
those are

3689
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:32,800
built into the into the cliff or Yeah,

3690
02:34:32,800 --> 02:34:35,760
they would step. So, they there's a step

3691
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,160
down or up depending if it's an ups

3692
02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:40,319
slope or a down slope. So that from one

3693
02:34:40,319 --> 02:34:42,560
side it would look to be two levels and

3694
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:44,560
from the down slope it would be three

3695
02:34:44,560 --> 02:34:47,359
levels or vice versa depending on its up

3696
02:34:47,359 --> 02:34:49,760
or down slope. We did have to look at

3697
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:51,760
although we they're not designed we had

3698
02:34:51,760 --> 02:34:54,000
to make sure that they would be feasible

3699
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:57,200
and and assess cost um for that type of

3700
02:34:57,200 --> 02:34:58,960
design because that step is more

3701
02:34:58,960 --> 02:35:01,439
expensive than just a flat pad. So we do

3702
02:35:01,439 --> 02:35:03,200
expect some steps there and that would

3703
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:05,040
be something that in the next phase we'd

3704
02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:07,200
actually show you some sections or

3705
02:35:07,200 --> 02:35:09,200
building footprints or just more

3706
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:11,200
information and that's something that

3707
02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:14,640
again a future developer or an RFP

3708
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:16,479
proposal would include so that then that

3709
02:35:16,479 --> 02:35:18,319
developer would actually come and and

3710
02:35:18,319 --> 02:35:20,000
propose something that was within

3711
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:21,200
reason.

3712
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:24,560
>> And then at what stage um do we get

3713
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:27,040
engineering analysis

3714
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:30,800
um with regard to how to do that safely?

3715
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:32,800
Oh yeah. So the as far as structural

3716
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:35,600
analysis and all the rest of it, well so

3717
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:37,600
we have just the we have an architect on

3718
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,600
board that has quite a bit of experience

3719
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:42,240
in hillside development, Dan Group. And

3720
02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:45,520
so they um they actually utilized some

3721
02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:47,280
of their experience with other hillside

3722
02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:49,920
sites in implementing both the

3723
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:52,640
multifamily building concept as well as

3724
02:35:52,640 --> 02:35:56,560
the town home uh pod structures um to

3725
02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:57,840
make sure that they would work. Yeah,

3726
02:35:57,840 --> 02:35:59,680
obviously in the design phase you'd have

3727
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:02,080
to get a structural to understand

3728
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:04,560
exactly how that would be built.

3729
02:36:04,560 --> 02:36:06,960
>> Okay, great. Thank you so much.

3730
02:36:06,960 --> 02:36:09,120
>> Any additional question? Um, yes,

3731
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:13,520
Council Member Adams. Uh what I what I

3732
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:16,720
see I know is very preliminary, but it

3733
02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:22,160
has more of a neighborhood feel than the

3734
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:25,040
previous iteration where it was just a

3735
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:30,880
giant box or two. And uh I particularly

3736
02:36:30,880 --> 02:36:34,240
like the fact that the

3737
02:36:34,240 --> 02:36:40,080
main focus will be these uh town homes

3738
02:36:40,080 --> 02:36:43,600
that will have What do you envision? A

3739
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:46,720
garages and a couple of levels,

3740
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:47,760
something like that.

3741
02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:50,160
>> That's right. These right now these look

3742
02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:52,880
like they could be about 2,00 to 2500

3743
02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:56,800
square ft. Um twocar garages, three

3744
02:36:56,800 --> 02:36:59,040
maybe four bedrooms. So really kind of

3745
02:36:59,040 --> 02:37:03,520
that family buyer. Um so that would that

3746
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:06,080
was what those footprints are based on.

3747
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:07,840
Obviously that could change a little bit

3748
02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:10,080
as we further refine the plan and the

3749
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:12,640
architects really digging in.

3750
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:14,640
Thank you. And and the other thing that

3751
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:18,240
I really like is having set aside a

3752
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:22,160
community space that could be uh a

3753
02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:26,240
satellite fire and police. It could be a

3754
02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:30,000
playground. It could be a meeting

3755
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:33,600
center. It could be a nature center. Um,

3756
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:35,840
so I think it's great that none of that

3757
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:39,280
has been defined yet, but the fact that

3758
02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:43,040
there is a set aside, I I really like

3759
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:46,640
that. Um, the other thing is I believe

3760
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:50,479
that the open space I somebody said it's

3761
02:37:50,479 --> 02:37:53,760
there's nothing going on there. There's

3762
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:57,520
a lot going on there and it is really

3763
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:00,319
benefiting all of us. There's a lot of

3764
02:38:00,319 --> 02:38:03,760
animal life, of plant life, and so

3765
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:06,720
preserving as much of that as we can

3766
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:09,520
will benefit uh neighbors all around

3767
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,840
this, but also this new little community

3768
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:16,720
uh that can be more integrated into the

3769
02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:20,000
existing community. if there is a common

3770
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:23,200
space that everyone in town is

3771
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:25,439
interested in

3772
02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:28,720
at least seeing particularly if it has

3773
02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:31,920
this benefit. So I I appreciate what

3774
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:33,920
you've come up with.

3775
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:35,920
>> Thank you. Yeah, the open space that

3776
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:38,479
remains on this parcel actually

3777
02:38:38,479 --> 02:38:41,520
generally abuts the other Tobin Clark

3778
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:44,240
property. So it actually will feel much

3779
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:46,319
larger as well. It's contiguous. It's

3780
02:38:46,319 --> 02:38:48,880
not chopped up. So, that's also a nice

3781
02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:53,200
way of how this ultimately laid out.

3782
02:38:53,200 --> 02:38:54,880
Um, before I give my comments, I would

3783
02:38:54,880 --> 02:38:57,359
like to I'm sorry, Council Member Adams,

3784
02:38:57,359 --> 02:39:00,080
are you done with your com Okay, with

3785
02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:04,080
your questions. Um, I would like to hear

3786
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:05,920
from the public. Is anyone here in

3787
02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:08,399
chambers um interested in making a

3788
02:39:08,399 --> 02:39:10,720
public comment or anyone on Zoom if we

3789
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:15,990
can start teeing that up?

3790
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:16,319
Oh,

3791
02:39:16,319 --> 02:39:18,880
>> I'm not sure if there's a um Oh, there's

3792
02:39:18,880 --> 02:39:20,000
point.

3793
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:20,640
>> It's

3794
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:22,399
>> Can I do a pointer here?

3795
02:39:22,399 --> 02:39:24,399
>> Drive is the first

3796
02:39:24,399 --> 02:39:26,080
>> Oh,

3797
02:39:26,080 --> 02:39:28,720
I'm not sure if this is me toggling it

3798
02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:31,040
or

3799
02:39:31,040 --> 02:39:32,720
>> Sorry,

3800
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:34,319
there's no like laser

3801
02:39:34,319 --> 02:39:37,359
>> there. I think you can.

3802
02:39:37,359 --> 02:39:39,600
It's right above the um

3803
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:40,399
>> we go. It's like

3804
02:39:40,399 --> 02:39:43,359
>> right above the parking lot. P the

3805
02:39:43,359 --> 02:39:45,439
drive. The is you talking about

3806
02:39:45,439 --> 02:39:47,760
perimeter drive or CSM? Oh, I'm sorry.

3807
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:53,910
CSM drive is what you're asking?

3808
02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:56,479
» CSM is different from Perimeter Road.

3809
02:39:56,479 --> 02:39:58,000
>> Yes. Different from perimeter road.

3810
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:00,560
>> Perimeter road is around the perimeter

3811
02:40:00,560 --> 02:40:04,000
and CSM drive is quite away from the

3812
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:04,479
site.

3813
02:40:04,479 --> 02:40:05,920
>> It's quite away from the site. I don't

3814
02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:07,280
see it at all on this.

3815
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:08,000
>> Further down.

3816
02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:12,000
>> It's farther down. is off the map. Yeah.

3817
02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:14,720
>> And just as just a reminder to the the

3818
02:40:14,720 --> 02:40:16,960
public here, we're in in comment period

3819
02:40:16,960 --> 02:40:18,800
at this point. So, if you would like to

3820
02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:20,319
address the council, you can come up and

3821
02:40:20,319 --> 02:40:22,000
make comments. And just a reminder, it's

3822
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:24,399
not a it's not a Q&A at this point or a

3823
02:40:24,399 --> 02:40:27,600
study session. And then myself and uh

3824
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:30,800
Harmony uh here with Wendy uh would be

3825
02:40:30,800 --> 02:40:32,319
happy to stay after to answer any

3826
02:40:32,319 --> 02:40:33,680
questions you have about any further

3827
02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:35,120
details. But right now it's just about

3828
02:40:35,120 --> 02:40:36,720
getting the information into the public

3829
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:38,640
record to the council and allowing him

3830
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:40,080
to hear your statements. Say

3831
02:40:40,080 --> 02:40:41,040
>> yeah. I'm sorry. Could you just

3832
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:42,080
introduce yourself please?

3833
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:45,359
>> Yes. My name is Neville Butliwala and I

3834
02:40:45,359 --> 02:40:48,640
live on Tobin Clark Drive. 70 Tobin

3835
02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:49,760
Clark Drive.

3836
02:40:49,760 --> 02:40:50,800
>> Welcome.

3837
02:40:50,800 --> 02:40:52,160
>> Thank you.

3838
02:40:52,160 --> 02:40:54,720
>> So I don't have a clue. I live on Tobin

3839
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:57,840
Clark Drive. I don't have a clue where

3840
02:40:57,840 --> 02:41:00,240
you're talking about this development.

3841
02:41:00,240 --> 02:41:02,319
Where is Tobin Clark Drive over here?

3842
02:41:02,319 --> 02:41:04,560
Where is Tournament? Where is CSM? Where

3843
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:07,359
is 92? Nothing. There's nothing marked

3844
02:41:07,359 --> 02:41:11,680
on this. How do I figure this out?

3845
02:41:11,680 --> 02:41:13,040
Um,

3846
02:41:13,040 --> 02:41:16,000
>> the round part is the CSM Planetarium,

3847
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:19,190
right?

3848
02:41:19,200 --> 02:41:20,880
» Or is that?

3849
02:41:20,880 --> 02:41:23,520
>> No, the the the parking lot is right

3850
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:26,720
next to the arrow. I I think we we can

3851
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:30,720
get um a more detailed map. You you can

3852
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:33,680
barely see Tobin I think that's

3853
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:36,479
tournament on the background there.

3854
02:41:36,479 --> 02:41:38,560
>> You're pointing like this. There's

3855
02:41:38,560 --> 02:41:41,760
>> I I understand. We we will um we we will

3856
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:44,080
try to get a more detailed map that

3857
02:41:44,080 --> 02:41:46,640
outlines your neighborhood is not

3858
02:41:46,640 --> 02:41:48,319
featured in this site that's being

3859
02:41:48,319 --> 02:41:51,200
built, but you were looking to see in

3860
02:41:51,200 --> 02:41:53,920
relations to did you say Tobin Clark

3861
02:41:53,920 --> 02:41:56,160
Drive or Fement?

3862
02:41:56,160 --> 02:41:59,280
>> I'm on Tobin Clark Drive.

3863
02:41:59,280 --> 02:42:03,040
>> This is all CS.

3864
02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:05,760
Um Paul, could you help us um locate

3865
02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:21,910
which direction to Clark Drive would be

3866
02:42:21,920 --> 02:42:24,319
» to Okay,

3867
02:42:24,319 --> 02:42:27,840
>> pointer is right there and that is the

3868
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:31,600
top of Tobin Clark Drive. Just that edge

3869
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:37,510
right there is the very top of Tobin.

3870
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:44,309
» Right there. The white arrow.

3871
02:42:44,319 --> 02:42:45,680
» Sir, if I could have you step to the

3872
02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:48,319
mic, need to people need to hear you on

3873
02:42:48,319 --> 02:42:51,120
Zoom as well. And just a reminder again,

3874
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:52,880
this is just the time for public comment

3875
02:42:52,880 --> 02:42:54,240
to make whatever comments you would like

3876
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:55,840
to the council within your allotted

3877
02:42:55,840 --> 02:42:57,520
time. And it's not a question and answer

3878
02:42:57,520 --> 02:42:59,680
or a study session. I'm asking a very

3879
02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:00,960
simple question.

3880
02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:02,880
>> Sir, you're free to make your question.

3881
02:43:02,880 --> 02:43:05,439
>> Where is Tobin Drive? Where is

3882
02:43:05,439 --> 02:43:06,160
Tournament Drive?

3883
02:43:06,160 --> 02:43:07,840
>> There it is right there. If you can see

3884
02:43:07,840 --> 02:43:10,240
where the cursor is, the the director is

3885
02:43:10,240 --> 02:43:11,200
showing you there.

3886
02:43:11,200 --> 02:43:11,600
>> Okay.

3887
02:43:11,600 --> 02:43:13,680
>> And the campus itself is that large body

3888
02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:15,359
in the center of the picture. And those

3889
02:43:15,359 --> 02:43:18,479
are the buildings plus the parking lots.

3890
02:43:18,479 --> 02:43:18,960
>> Okay.

3891
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:21,200
>> All right. Thank you, sir.

3892
02:43:21,200 --> 02:43:22,960
>> Do you have additional comments or

3893
02:43:22,960 --> 02:43:25,040
questions?

3894
02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:27,840
I I can't imagine it over there, but you

3895
02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:30,080
know, I'll wait for another map which

3896
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:33,120
has more information on where the

3897
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:36,800
streets are, where 92 is,

3898
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:40,479
you know, it's all very big in that

3899
02:43:40,479 --> 02:43:42,479
diagram over there.

3900
02:43:42,479 --> 02:43:45,120
>> Um, also I'm just to reassure you, we we

3901
02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:47,439
will be having transitioning to a

3902
02:43:47,439 --> 02:43:49,040
subcommittee where you will have the

3903
02:43:49,040 --> 02:43:50,800
opportunity to listen in or attend one

3904
02:43:50,800 --> 02:43:52,080
of those meetings within the next

3905
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:54,960
several months. and we will try to make

3906
02:43:54,960 --> 02:43:58,240
sure we have more detailed maps um at

3907
02:43:58,240 --> 02:43:59,920
those meetings available.

3908
02:43:59,920 --> 02:44:02,080
>> Also, the access in and out is going to

3909
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:03,760
be very important

3910
02:44:03,760 --> 02:44:06,080
>> and that's still in discussion as we

3911
02:44:06,080 --> 02:44:07,359
pointed out

3912
02:44:07,359 --> 02:44:10,240
>> and with that one little house which we

3913
02:44:10,240 --> 02:44:12,319
discussed previously there was a big

3914
02:44:12,319 --> 02:44:15,359
issue with noise.

3915
02:44:15,359 --> 02:44:18,319
Is there going to be are the residents

3916
02:44:18,319 --> 02:44:20,960
on Tobin Clark Drive and Tournament and

3917
02:44:20,960 --> 02:44:23,920
that whole area going to be affected by

3918
02:44:23,920 --> 02:44:26,960
noise and trucks coming in and out

3919
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:30,640
because of all this development.

3920
02:44:30,640 --> 02:44:34,479
We may have more than one access um for

3921
02:44:34,479 --> 02:44:36,399
construction and emergency vehicles

3922
02:44:36,399 --> 02:44:38,080
going forward. We may have two or three.

3923
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:39,920
We're still working out the details of

3924
02:44:39,920 --> 02:44:41,600
that particular um issue.

3925
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:42,640
>> Okay. Thank you.

3926
02:44:42,640 --> 02:44:45,040
>> Thank you. Any um additional questions

3927
02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:46,800
from the public? Yes.

3928
02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:49,200
>> The next speaker is Jeannie Back.

3929
02:44:49,200 --> 02:44:50,720
>> Oh, yes.

3930
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:54,080
>> Hello. Hello there. I'm Jeanie Back from

3931
02:44:54,080 --> 02:44:57,680
>> 45 Bair Court. Uh good evening, Mayor

3932
02:44:57,680 --> 02:45:00,399
Cole and council members. Um, I

3933
02:45:00,399 --> 02:45:03,279
appreciate the amount of time uh and

3934
02:45:03,279 --> 02:45:05,600
work that has clearly gone into

3935
02:45:05,600 --> 02:45:08,800
evaluating the Toba Clark site and I

3936
02:45:08,800 --> 02:45:10,800
actually do not envy the difficult

3937
02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:13,439
position the council faces in balancing

3938
02:45:13,439 --> 02:45:15,760
state housing obligations,

3939
02:45:15,760 --> 02:45:18,240
legal realities, financial constraints,

3940
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:21,120
and community impacts. I'm not speaking

3941
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:23,200
here tonight from the perspective that

3942
02:45:23,200 --> 02:45:25,840
housing should simply go away. nor do I

3943
02:45:25,840 --> 02:45:27,760
underestimate the complexity of the

3944
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:30,800
challenges before the town. My concern

3945
02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:33,520
tonight is more specific.

3946
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:36,080
This appears to be an extraordinarily

3947
02:45:36,080 --> 02:45:38,960
constrained and sensitive site, and I

3948
02:45:38,960 --> 02:45:41,680
hope that those realities remain central

3949
02:45:41,680 --> 02:45:44,960
as the project moves forward. The staff

3950
02:45:44,960 --> 02:45:47,920
report itself references steep terrain,

3951
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:51,359
unresolved emergency access questions,

3952
02:45:51,359 --> 02:45:53,680
infrastructure complexity,

3953
02:45:53,680 --> 02:45:57,680
wildfire and WUI considerations,

3954
02:45:57,680 --> 02:46:01,120
grading challenges, utility extensions,

3955
02:46:01,120 --> 02:46:03,840
and biological constraints.

3956
02:46:03,840 --> 02:46:07,439
Those are not small details. They are

3957
02:46:07,439 --> 02:46:10,960
defining characteristics of the site.

3958
02:46:10,960 --> 02:46:13,200
What also stood out to me is that the

3959
02:46:13,200 --> 02:46:15,359
project appears to be evolving

3960
02:46:15,359 --> 02:46:17,760
significantly from the original housing

3961
02:46:17,760 --> 02:46:20,800
element concept. The report openly

3962
02:46:20,800 --> 02:46:22,640
acknowledges that the original

3963
02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:25,439
multifamily approach was not financially

3964
02:46:25,439 --> 02:46:28,240
viable and that additional town homes,

3965
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:30,800
estate lots, and expanded development

3966
02:46:30,800 --> 02:46:33,760
areas are now being introduced to make

3967
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:36,640
the project feasible. I think that

3968
02:46:36,640 --> 02:46:40,000
evolution deserves continued

3969
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:42,640
public transparency and careful

3970
02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:45,279
scrutiny, especially given the

3971
02:46:45,279 --> 02:46:48,880
irreversible nature of hillside grading,

3972
02:46:48,880 --> 02:46:51,520
infrastructure installation, and the

3973
02:46:51,520 --> 02:46:53,760
transformation of what is currently

3974
02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:57,600
visible open space terrain. I also note

3975
02:46:57,600 --> 02:46:59,840
that the town's earlier environmental

3976
02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:03,279
review acknowledged sensitive wild

3977
02:47:03,279 --> 02:47:05,760
wildlife species and ecological

3978
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:08,399
constraints within the planning area.

3979
02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:10,560
Given the site's apparent role with a

3980
02:47:10,560 --> 02:47:13,120
broader ridge line and habitat corridor

3981
02:47:13,120 --> 02:47:16,560
system and evolving regional wildlife

3982
02:47:16,560 --> 02:47:18,960
and habitat considerations,

3983
02:47:18,960 --> 02:47:21,760
I hope future environmental review

3984
02:47:21,760 --> 02:47:24,160
carefully evaluates habitat

3985
02:47:24,160 --> 02:47:25,760
fragmentation,

3986
02:47:25,760 --> 02:47:29,359
wildlife movement, wildfire evacuation

3987
02:47:29,359 --> 02:47:32,319
realities and the cumulative effects of

3988
02:47:32,319 --> 02:47:35,600
grading infrastructure lighting and

3989
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:38,800
increased human activity on the site.

3990
02:47:38,800 --> 02:47:40,800
I appreciate the town's efforts to

3991
02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:43,120
proceed thoughtfully and I hope the next

3992
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:45,439
phase continues with a high level of

3993
02:47:45,439 --> 02:47:49,040
rigor, transparency, and realism about

3994
02:47:49,040 --> 02:47:51,359
the site's unique constraints and the

3995
02:47:51,359 --> 02:47:55,359
long-term consequences. Thanks.

3996
02:47:55,359 --> 02:47:57,520
>> Um, thank you for your comments. Any

3997
02:47:57,520 --> 02:48:00,479
additional um, public comments? Yes,

3998
02:48:00,479 --> 02:48:02,240
>> Lee Ginsburg. Miss

3999
02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:07,670
>> Ginsburg.

4000
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:11,439
Hi, Lee Ginsburg, 1250 Tournament Drive.

4001
02:48:11,439 --> 02:48:13,760
And Wendy, in your marketing plan, you

4002
02:48:13,760 --> 02:48:18,240
said the price ranges would not work for

4003
02:48:18,240 --> 02:48:19,760
some of the homes. What price ranges

4004
02:48:19,760 --> 02:48:22,800
have you set to make these goals for

4005
02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:27,510
town homes and the individual lots?

4006
02:48:27,520 --> 02:48:29,120
» I'm sorry, it's not clear. Your question

4007
02:48:29,120 --> 02:48:30,560
is not clear. What do you say?

4008
02:48:30,560 --> 02:48:33,840
>> She said um all multi-unit properties

4009
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:35,920
would not financially work out. So

4010
02:48:35,920 --> 02:48:37,840
that's why they added town homes. They

4011
02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:39,600
had to be competitive with Berlin game

4012
02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:42,800
and Sanonteo. So I'm asking what how you

4013
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:44,319
being competitive with them? What price

4014
02:48:44,319 --> 02:48:47,200
range have you worked out to make this

4015
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:48,800
feasible?

4016
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:51,120
>> Um you you it's based on the below

4017
02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:52,160
market rate.

4018
02:48:52,160 --> 02:48:54,240
>> No, not not those the town homes and the

4019
02:48:54,240 --> 02:48:56,000
individual homes.

4020
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:57,040
I don't think

4021
02:48:57,040 --> 02:48:59,200
>> you have to have some number to say that

4022
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:01,840
this is going to pencil out.

4023
02:49:01,840 --> 02:49:02,880
>> Yes, please do.

4024
02:49:02,880 --> 02:49:03,200
>> Yeah.

4025
02:49:03,200 --> 02:49:08,070
M speaker, you may comment.

4026
02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:10,479
» So, we did we did preliminary market

4027
02:49:10,479 --> 02:49:12,560
analysis just to better understand what

4028
02:49:12,560 --> 02:49:14,960
could be feasible or not. And really

4029
02:49:14,960 --> 02:49:16,640
like the two things that we've

4030
02:49:16,640 --> 02:49:19,520
determined were not feasible were

4031
02:49:19,520 --> 02:49:22,080
related to the apartment rents and the

4032
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:23,920
stacked condo rents. And you're exactly

4033
02:49:23,920 --> 02:49:26,800
right where you have competition in the

4034
02:49:26,800 --> 02:49:29,840
surrounding area that would uh limit

4035
02:49:29,840 --> 02:49:31,920
like you can't have a $10 per square

4036
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:33,600
foot rent. You know, there's just

4037
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:36,399
limitations. And so be because of the

4038
02:49:36,399 --> 02:49:41,279
blending of where that rent cap today is

4039
02:49:41,279 --> 02:49:44,560
or the stacked condo per square foot

4040
02:49:44,560 --> 02:49:46,479
combined with the high construction

4041
02:49:46,479 --> 02:49:48,880
costs of that particular market rate

4042
02:49:48,880 --> 02:49:50,479
product type. That's what made it

4043
02:49:50,479 --> 02:49:54,399
infeasible. So, so about for the stacked

4044
02:49:54,399 --> 02:49:56,640
condos, we assumed about a thousand

4045
02:49:56,640 --> 02:50:00,640
$1,000 per square foot and for the um

4046
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:10,630
the market rate apartments

4047
02:50:10,640 --> 02:50:14,710
on here. Done.

4048
02:50:14,720 --> 02:50:30,950
A total

4049
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:34,479
Oh, okay. So, an average uh per square

4050
02:50:34,479 --> 02:50:38,319
foot uh market rate rent of $5.13 per

4051
02:50:38,319 --> 02:50:40,160
square foot.

4052
02:50:40,160 --> 02:50:42,640
So, for a th00and square foot uh

4053
02:50:42,640 --> 02:50:45,760
apartment, that would be about a $5,100

4054
02:50:45,760 --> 02:50:48,000
uh dollar rent. So that's what we

4055
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:51,040
assumed and those uh were not

4056
02:50:51,040 --> 02:50:52,880
financially feasible.

4057
02:50:52,880 --> 02:50:57,190
>> What is the feasible

4058
02:50:57,200 --> 02:50:57,680
homes?

4059
02:50:57,680 --> 02:51:00,640
>> That's right. So the the custom lots

4060
02:51:00,640 --> 02:51:02,880
would be priced um competitively with

4061
02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:04,880
custom lots in the area that are also

4062
02:51:04,880 --> 02:51:11,120
utility served. Um and the town homes

4063
02:51:11,120 --> 02:51:13,439
about two over $2 million per custom

4064
02:51:13,439 --> 02:51:17,359
lot. And then the town homes were about

4065
02:51:17,359 --> 02:51:20,640
$1,400 to $1,600 per square foot, which

4066
02:51:20,640 --> 02:51:25,520
is comparable to the um for example

4067
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:28,720
other high-end markets in the Bay Area.

4068
02:51:28,720 --> 02:51:30,160
And those because of the lower

4069
02:51:30,160 --> 02:51:32,720
construction costs for the town homes

4070
02:51:32,720 --> 02:51:34,080
and because of the fact you're just

4071
02:51:34,080 --> 02:51:35,520
selling a lot, you're not actually

4072
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:38,000
constructing the the custom lot, it made

4073
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:41,520
it a more financially viable uh program.

4074
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:43,359
>> Did I get you? Yes. Okay, great.

4075
02:51:43,359 --> 02:51:46,080
>> Okay. Sorry. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

4076
02:51:46,080 --> 02:51:49,279
>> Thank you. So, um the building cost on

4077
02:51:49,279 --> 02:51:51,359
this the terrain, we all recognize the

4078
02:51:51,359 --> 02:51:53,279
terrain here. Just earlier, we heard

4079
02:51:53,279 --> 02:51:55,760
about for one single home, they got 200

4080
02:51:55,760 --> 02:51:59,279
trucks to empty out the terrain. How

4081
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:01,279
many trucks is it going to take for this

4082
02:52:01,279 --> 02:52:03,279
going through that neighborhood? That's

4083
02:52:03,279 --> 02:52:07,680
inconceivable for me. As well as CSM is

4084
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:10,479
building, I think 350 homes on one of

4085
02:52:10,479 --> 02:52:12,160
their uh parking lots as well. So,

4086
02:52:12,160 --> 02:52:12,960
there's going to be a lot of

4087
02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:14,960
construction in that area in the coming

4088
02:52:14,960 --> 02:52:16,880
years. They just started construction

4089
02:52:16,880 --> 02:52:19,680
like this month. So, I'm not sure if

4090
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:24,000
you're aware of that going on. Um,

4091
02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:25,760
and then there's no no public

4092
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:27,920
transportation in the area. So, has that

4093
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:30,640
been considered to make this feasible

4094
02:52:30,640 --> 02:52:32,880
for people to be living or is all going

4095
02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:36,630
to be traffic?

4096
02:52:36,640 --> 02:52:38,720
Okay, there's I guess our answer. We

4097
02:52:38,720 --> 02:52:42,000
don't know. Um

4098
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:45,760
>> um just Sam Trans does run on perimeter

4099
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:46,399
road.

4100
02:52:46,399 --> 02:52:47,520
>> On where?

4101
02:52:47,520 --> 02:52:49,359
>> On perimeter road around the perimeter

4102
02:52:49,359 --> 02:52:50,880
of the campus.

4103
02:52:50,880 --> 02:52:52,479
>> Okay. But I don't think these homes are

4104
02:52:52,479 --> 02:52:55,279
that close to the campus.

4105
02:52:55,279 --> 02:52:56,560
>> They are.

4106
02:52:56,560 --> 02:52:57,840
>> They're close enough.

4107
02:52:57,840 --> 02:52:59,600
They're within

4108
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:01,600
1,000 ft.

4109
02:53:01,600 --> 02:53:05,200
>> Okay. Um

4110
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:07,439
and then we were talking earlier about P

4111
02:53:07,439 --> 02:53:09,920
Gen. I live right in the area. Just in

4112
02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:12,319
the last month or two, my power went off

4113
02:53:12,319 --> 02:53:14,479
two or three times. So, I don't know if

4114
02:53:14,479 --> 02:53:17,120
P Genie is even ready to for another

4115
02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:19,359
hundred homes to handle this. So,

4116
02:53:19,359 --> 02:53:22,319
there's just a lot to consider before we

4117
02:53:22,319 --> 02:53:23,920
move forward. So,

4118
02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:25,600
>> well, thanks for your comments.

4119
02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:28,080
>> Yeah.

4120
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:32,160
>> Any any additional um comments? Um yes,

4121
02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:35,279
we have Do we have a card or Oh, okay.

4122
02:53:35,279 --> 02:53:37,520
You could um complete the card later,

4123
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:39,359
but perhaps just introduce yourself,

4124
02:53:39,359 --> 02:53:41,279
please.

4125
02:53:41,279 --> 02:53:43,600
>> 430 Remlard.

4126
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:45,520
>> What are you guys doing to Hillsboro? I

4127
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:47,600
understand there's a housing element.

4128
02:53:47,600 --> 02:53:49,200
That's the state's fault. You could have

4129
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:50,720
caught it perhaps a little bit more

4130
02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:52,800
aggressively. What's

4131
02:53:52,800 --> 02:53:54,160
>> Yeah, we can't

4132
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:55,279
>> What's What's the definition of

4133
02:53:55,279 --> 02:53:57,760
affordable? The median ho housing value

4134
02:53:57,760 --> 02:54:01,120
in Hillsboro was five million and you

4135
02:54:01,120 --> 02:54:04,800
know there's $60 million homes. Is a

4136
02:54:04,800 --> 02:54:08,640
$2.5 million home affordable? I mean for

4137
02:54:08,640 --> 02:54:11,680
whom? I just think you guys have really

4138
02:54:11,680 --> 02:54:13,279
gone in the wrong direction. I

4139
02:54:13,279 --> 02:54:15,359
understand the state is probably forcing

4140
02:54:15,359 --> 02:54:17,040
you, but I wish there could have been

4141
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:18,720
other avenues because I've been a

4142
02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:20,960
resident for 60 years and I'm really

4143
02:54:20,960 --> 02:54:22,880
disappointed in what's become of

4144
02:54:22,880 --> 02:54:24,319
Hillsboro. Thank you.

4145
02:54:24,319 --> 02:54:26,080
>> Um yeah. Um I'm I'm actually going to

4146
02:54:26,080 --> 02:54:27,680
make a comment on a few things because

4147
02:54:27,680 --> 02:54:29,359
we've had this conversation for the past

4148
02:54:29,359 --> 02:54:31,279
three years. Um as we address the

4149
02:54:31,279 --> 02:54:35,200
housing element, the um income is based

4150
02:54:35,200 --> 02:54:38,000
on the county's average which is about

4151
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:40,080
90 to $150,000

4152
02:54:40,080 --> 02:54:44,000
for below market rate and over $150,000

4153
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:46,640
a year for above market rate. So

4154
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:49,840
individuals making over $150,000

4155
02:54:49,840 --> 02:54:54,560
is considered market rate and above. individuals making less than

4156
02:54:54,560 --> 02:54:56,880
150,000 a year is considered below

4157
02:54:56,880 --> 02:55:00,640
market rate. Um the you're right it is a

4158
02:55:00,640 --> 02:55:03,840
state mandate and we had this com we had

4159
02:55:03,840 --> 02:55:05,279
this community outreach. We're going to

4160
02:55:05,279 --> 02:55:07,120
have more community outreach in that

4161
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:09,680
especially in that area over the next

4162
02:55:09,680 --> 02:55:12,319
many months to the next year or two. So

4163
02:55:12,319 --> 02:55:13,920
there will be more opportunities for

4164
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:15,200
discussions and more information

4165
02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:19,279
provided. Um and again as pointed out

4166
02:55:19,279 --> 02:55:22,479
our consulting team understands the

4167
02:55:22,479 --> 02:55:24,479
community of Hillsboro. They've had a

4168
02:55:24,479 --> 02:55:27,200
chance to you know spend some time here

4169
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:28,960
and they will continue to work with the

4170
02:55:28,960 --> 02:55:31,439
residents and the city council to

4171
02:55:31,439 --> 02:55:33,040
address some of the concerns you may

4172
02:55:33,040 --> 02:55:34,000
have at this time.

4173
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:36,319
>> I understand that there was an ADU built

4174
02:55:36,319 --> 02:55:38,000
right next door to me and that was a

4175
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,080
year in construction. nothing but mud

4176
02:55:40,080 --> 02:55:43,120
and uh trucks moving up and down parking

4177
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:45,200
on my sidewalk that I have to pay to

4178
02:55:45,200 --> 02:55:47,600
fix. Understand what these people are

4179
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:49,760
saying about the infrastructure. We're

4180
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:52,000
not ready for it. To try to bend over

4181
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:53,920
backwards to build these homes on

4182
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:56,720
unbuildable sites just seems to be

4183
02:55:56,720 --> 02:55:59,760
completely ludicrous and crazy to me.

4184
02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:00,640
Thank you.

4185
02:56:00,640 --> 02:56:02,880
>> Thank you.

4186
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:06,720
>> Any additional public comments?

4187
02:56:06,720 --> 02:56:08,880
I have no additional cards and I have no

4188
02:56:08,880 --> 02:56:20,150
raised hands on Zoom. Thank you.

4189
02:56:20,160 --> 02:56:22,399
On the affordable homes, is it possible

4190
02:56:22,399 --> 02:56:24,240
that you

4191
02:56:24,240 --> 02:56:26,240
um have it for city employees, teachers,

4192
02:56:26,240 --> 02:56:28,960
firemen, city people? Could we specify

4193
02:56:28,960 --> 02:56:30,000
that?

4194
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:33,279
>> The preference can be expressed but

4195
02:56:33,279 --> 02:56:35,920
legally we cannot designate the homes.

4196
02:56:35,920 --> 02:56:37,680
So we in other words even as we

4197
02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:39,359
discussed with CSM it's going to be

4198
02:56:39,359 --> 02:56:41,279
perhaps potentially along those lines

4199
02:56:41,279 --> 02:56:44,560
but even preferences for our nurses our

4200
02:56:44,560 --> 02:56:47,359
teachers our firefighters

4201
02:56:47,359 --> 02:56:50,000
um that those those are potential issues

4202
02:56:50,000 --> 02:56:52,240
that would be discussed but we're not we

4203
02:56:52,240 --> 02:56:56,319
cannot legally put aside um units just

4204
02:56:56,319 --> 02:56:57,760
for those individuals.

4205
02:56:57,760 --> 02:57:01,120
>> Okay. Thank you.

4206
02:57:01,120 --> 02:57:05,359
Um, any additional questions before we

4207
02:57:05,359 --> 02:57:07,760
authorize to proceed? Yes. Um, council

4208
02:57:07,760 --> 02:57:12,790
member Chuang,

4209
02:57:12,800 --> 02:57:15,600
» is the town home outell pricing we had

4210
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:17,439
at $1325,

4211
02:57:17,439 --> 02:57:19,040
but so I gave you a range and I just

4212
02:57:19,040 --> 02:57:20,960
wanted to clarify the record that it was

4213
02:57:20,960 --> 02:57:22,720
1325.

4214
02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:28,550
That's correct. Yep. Per square foot.

4215
02:57:28,560 --> 02:57:30,800
So, um I I do have a questions for

4216
02:57:30,800 --> 02:57:33,840
Wendy. Um thank thank you so much for

4217
02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:37,279
the presentation and um I do appreciate

4218
02:57:37,279 --> 02:57:40,800
the conceptual sort of this is where you

4219
02:57:40,800 --> 02:57:43,600
envision after six months of work in

4220
02:57:43,600 --> 02:57:45,520
terms of

4221
02:57:45,520 --> 02:57:47,520
you know connecting with um potential

4222
02:57:47,520 --> 02:57:51,359
partners and then see what is viable. My

4223
02:57:51,359 --> 02:57:53,200
question is that at at some point in

4224
02:57:53,200 --> 02:57:55,359
your presentation, you talk about master

4225
02:57:55,359 --> 02:57:57,279
plans. You're the phase two being the

4226
02:57:57,279 --> 02:58:00,000
master plans and I'm I'm just looking at

4227
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:01,760
that we're spending half a million

4228
02:58:01,760 --> 02:58:04,240
dollars over half a million dollars on

4229
02:58:04,240 --> 02:58:07,520
this potential. So what does that mean

4230
02:58:07,520 --> 02:58:09,920
when you said that the master plans and

4231
02:58:09,920 --> 02:58:13,200
you're not even hiring developers

4232
02:58:13,200 --> 02:58:15,680
um there yet to to do the design? So

4233
02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:17,359
you're not designing the town homes,

4234
02:58:17,359 --> 02:58:20,479
you're not designing this the structures

4235
02:58:20,479 --> 02:58:22,960
of these buildings.

4236
02:58:22,960 --> 02:58:24,720
So what does that mean when you said

4237
02:58:24,720 --> 02:58:26,720
that there's a master plan and that's

4238
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:28,720
what you're working on?

4239
02:58:28,720 --> 02:58:31,200
So, uh, while we're not going to be bu

4240
02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:33,279
doing facades or any detailed

4241
02:58:33,279 --> 02:58:34,880
architecture, that would come in at a

4242
02:58:34,880 --> 02:58:36,240
later phase, as would all the

4243
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:38,240
environmental review related to the

4244
02:58:38,240 --> 02:58:40,880
project, and that would be paid for by a

4245
02:58:40,880 --> 02:58:42,720
developer that the town actually got

4246
02:58:42,720 --> 02:58:44,880
into contract with, right, that an RFP

4247
02:58:44,880 --> 02:58:46,720
went out for, so the town doesn't have

4248
02:58:46,720 --> 02:58:48,960
the burden of those costs. But some of

4249
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:51,359
the things that we are doing is defining

4250
02:58:51,359 --> 02:58:53,120
the space that those could go in because

4251
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:55,439
we're trying to derisk this enough or

4252
02:58:55,439 --> 02:58:57,920
establish enough credibility for

4253
02:58:57,920 --> 02:58:59,279
development to understand what the

4254
02:58:59,279 --> 02:59:01,120
limits on the site could be, the unit

4255
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:03,760
types, the count so that we could put

4256
02:59:03,760 --> 02:59:06,720
out an RFP process for a developer to

4257
02:59:06,720 --> 02:59:09,120
feel comfortable enough to proceed.

4258
02:59:09,120 --> 02:59:10,880
Right now, there's, as everyone's

4259
02:59:10,880 --> 02:59:12,640
identified, a number of risks that would

4260
02:59:12,640 --> 02:59:15,120
make taking this out to an RF with an

4261
02:59:15,120 --> 02:59:16,640
RFP to a developer. You probably

4262
02:59:16,640 --> 02:59:18,560
wouldn't have a big developer pool of

4263
02:59:18,560 --> 02:59:20,399
anybody comfortable enough to come in

4264
02:59:20,399 --> 02:59:23,200
because they wouldn't feel like that it

4265
02:59:23,200 --> 02:59:25,279
was viable. So what we're trying to do

4266
02:59:25,279 --> 02:59:27,680
is establish if it's viable so that then

4267
02:59:27,680 --> 02:59:31,200
an RFP could occur, a developer could be

4268
02:59:31,200 --> 02:59:34,000
selected, they could move forward with

4269
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:36,640
like detailed architecture and

4270
02:59:36,640 --> 02:59:39,520
environmental review etc. But what this

4271
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:43,840
will be doing is defining the space like

4272
02:59:43,840 --> 02:59:46,319
effectively the development footprint.

4273
02:59:46,319 --> 02:59:48,479
So for each of the custom lots, we'll be

4274
02:59:48,479 --> 02:59:50,479
going through and identifying the space

4275
02:59:50,479 --> 02:59:52,319
that you could actually build within

4276
02:59:52,319 --> 02:59:54,640
those custom lots. based off town

4277
02:59:54,640 --> 02:59:56,880
standards and the town doesn't really

4278
02:59:56,880 --> 02:59:59,040
have multifamily standards at this

4279
02:59:59,040 --> 03:00:01,439
point. So it would be identifying things

4280
03:00:01,439 --> 03:00:04,560
like setbacks and where what the heights

4281
03:00:04,560 --> 03:00:06,800
of those buildings might be just so that

4282
03:00:06,800 --> 03:00:09,359
a developer when they came in understood

4283
03:00:09,359 --> 03:00:11,040
how much they could develop on this

4284
03:00:11,040 --> 03:00:13,359
site. They can run a performer. So,

4285
03:00:13,359 --> 03:00:16,399
we're whittling it down without, you

4286
03:00:16,399 --> 03:00:18,240
know, a developer would want to come in

4287
03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:21,200
and have the opportunity to develop the

4288
03:00:21,200 --> 03:00:24,080
facade of the town homes that they feel

4289
03:00:24,080 --> 03:00:26,720
would be appropriate and they would run

4290
03:00:26,720 --> 03:00:28,720
it through the entitlement process

4291
03:00:28,720 --> 03:00:30,560
accordingly. So, we don't want to get so

4292
03:00:30,560 --> 03:00:32,640
in the weeds that we're dictating, but

4293
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,640
we want to give folks enough information

4294
03:00:34,640 --> 03:00:36,319
that they feel comfortable that this is

4295
03:00:36,319 --> 03:00:38,399
viable, if that makes sense. We're we're

4296
03:00:38,399 --> 03:00:40,080
threading a needle. So, we are doing

4297
03:00:40,080 --> 03:00:41,760
quite a bit of work as you can see on

4298
03:00:41,760 --> 03:00:44,160
here. Um but it's not the detailed

4299
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:46,800
architectural plans yet.

4300
03:00:46,800 --> 03:00:47,359
>> Thank you.

4301
03:00:47,359 --> 03:00:48,160
>> You're welcome.

4302
03:00:48,160 --> 03:00:50,560
>> Um just to follow up on that um again

4303
03:00:50,560 --> 03:00:53,200
just the clarification these so-called

4304
03:00:53,200 --> 03:00:55,520
development agreements will be if they

4305
03:00:55,520 --> 03:00:57,680
show an architectural design to the

4306
03:00:57,680 --> 03:01:00,240
subcommittee and the city council. We

4307
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:02,560
could give feedback and say that it's

4308
03:01:02,560 --> 03:01:05,279
just not very consistent with the style

4309
03:01:05,279 --> 03:01:07,040
and architecture of the town. Can we

4310
03:01:07,040 --> 03:01:09,840
modify this? Can we make changes? So the

4311
03:01:09,840 --> 03:01:11,520
development agreement does give us the

4312
03:01:11,520 --> 03:01:13,840
opportunity to have input as far as what

4313
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:15,840
these structures will look like.

4314
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:16,319
Correct.

4315
03:01:16,319 --> 03:01:18,080
>> Yes, of course. And you'd have any

4316
03:01:18,080 --> 03:01:19,439
developer would have to go through your

4317
03:01:19,439 --> 03:01:20,800
typical entitlement process,

4318
03:01:20,800 --> 03:01:22,240
architecture and site review, your

4319
03:01:22,240 --> 03:01:24,240
grading review per pro process again,

4320
03:01:24,240 --> 03:01:26,160
environmental review. So all of that

4321
03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:28,080
would have to happen later as well. And

4322
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:30,720
your RFP process can identify certain

4323
03:01:30,720 --> 03:01:32,960
things that you're looking for as far as

4324
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:36,000
style and so forth. And for now, your

4325
03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:38,479
projection is three stories to four

4326
03:01:38,479 --> 03:01:41,840
stories um with the parking underneath,

4327
03:01:41,840 --> 03:01:45,600
but you estimating mid mid height, three

4328
03:01:45,600 --> 03:01:48,399
to four stories, plus or minus,

4329
03:01:48,399 --> 03:01:49,680
something along those lines?

4330
03:01:49,680 --> 03:01:52,000
>> Yeah. For the town homes, uh they're the

4331
03:01:52,000 --> 03:01:53,520
two to three stories. For the

4332
03:01:53,520 --> 03:01:55,840
multifamily affordable building, it's

4333
03:01:55,840 --> 03:01:58,160
four to four and a half sto four to five

4334
03:01:58,160 --> 03:01:59,439
stories. It was about four and a half

4335
03:01:59,439 --> 03:02:01,840
stories with the tuck under parking.

4336
03:02:01,840 --> 03:02:02,160
Yeah.

4337
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:03,760
>> Okay.

4338
03:02:03,760 --> 03:02:05,439
Um, any additional question from the

4339
03:02:05,439 --> 03:02:07,840
council? Yes, Vice Mayor Ragdale.

4340
03:02:07,840 --> 03:02:11,279
>> Um, just a question. Um, I had asked

4341
03:02:11,279 --> 03:02:13,600
this in a different context and I don't

4342
03:02:13,600 --> 03:02:15,920
think she's online anymore. Uh, Liz

4343
03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:17,840
Reese, but um, I don't know if you know

4344
03:02:17,840 --> 03:02:22,080
or maybe city council. Um with regard to

4345
03:02:22,080 --> 03:02:25,040
um employee or teacher preference, my

4346
03:02:25,040 --> 03:02:27,680
understanding is that all things being

4347
03:02:27,680 --> 03:02:30,880
equal, you you can have a you can

4348
03:02:30,880 --> 03:02:33,920
express a preference for employees or

4349
03:02:33,920 --> 03:02:34,800
teachers.

4350
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:36,880
>> Well, it's I think for the affordable

4351
03:02:36,880 --> 03:02:38,560
component, if there's county funding

4352
03:02:38,560 --> 03:02:40,640
that's being used, there can be some

4353
03:02:40,640 --> 03:02:43,040
discretion for the affordable housing as

4354
03:02:43,040 --> 03:02:45,760
far as preference. for the market rate.

4355
03:02:45,760 --> 03:02:49,120
It's it's market driven.

4356
03:02:49,120 --> 03:02:50,960
>> Thank you.

4357
03:02:50,960 --> 03:02:53,120
>> Yes. Um council member,

4358
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:56,399
>> so uh again, um I'm intrigued by the

4359
03:02:56,399 --> 03:03:00,080
master plans on phase two. Um you work

4360
03:03:00,080 --> 03:03:02,399
very hard on the on phase one trying to

4361
03:03:02,399 --> 03:03:05,120
figure out where's the connectivities on

4362
03:03:05,120 --> 03:03:08,640
the utility and the electricities and I

4363
03:03:08,640 --> 03:03:10,960
think that is a huge hung up in addition

4364
03:03:10,960 --> 03:03:14,720
to the topography challenge. So are you

4365
03:03:14,720 --> 03:03:17,200
suggesting that in phase one you are now

4366
03:03:17,200 --> 03:03:20,319
able to identify the connectivities with

4367
03:03:20,319 --> 03:03:23,040
the town utility

4368
03:03:23,040 --> 03:03:25,920
and there are viable ways that you can

4369
03:03:25,920 --> 03:03:30,240
make that happen or is it something that

4370
03:03:30,240 --> 03:03:33,200
it you know as you weaving this master

4371
03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:35,840
plan that it's very likely that those

4372
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:38,479
are going to happen. And so the way we

4373
03:03:38,479 --> 03:03:40,960
approach this is how we would typically

4374
03:03:40,960 --> 03:03:43,040
move uh move forward as a developer

4375
03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:44,800
where you have a due diligence phase

4376
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:46,800
before you enter into like a contract

4377
03:03:46,800 --> 03:03:49,760
with a property owner and you try to far

4378
03:03:49,760 --> 03:03:51,680
it out as much as you can during that

4379
03:03:51,680 --> 03:03:53,279
due diligence phase but you also

4380
03:03:53,279 --> 03:03:55,279
identify risks to your financial

4381
03:03:55,279 --> 03:03:57,840
committee that's willing to fund this

4382
03:03:57,840 --> 03:03:59,840
effort. And so that's what we tried to

4383
03:03:59,840 --> 03:04:02,000
do these first three months is establish

4384
03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:04,319
is there enough viability to continue to

4385
03:04:04,319 --> 03:04:05,680
move forward because we don't want to

4386
03:04:05,680 --> 03:04:07,359
move forward if this if there's no

4387
03:04:07,359 --> 03:04:09,439
viabilities. Utilities were a really big

4388
03:04:09,439 --> 03:04:11,680
part of that and at this point our civil

4389
03:04:11,680 --> 03:04:13,520
engineer in coordination actually with

4390
03:04:13,520 --> 03:04:15,680
the town Paul's been extremely helpful

4391
03:04:15,680 --> 03:04:17,920
like we really have located where all

4392
03:04:17,920 --> 03:04:20,000
the utilities are to tie into for the

4393
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:22,240
town and we feel pretty comfortable that

4394
03:04:22,240 --> 03:04:25,840
they're viable. Could there be a a

4395
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:28,240
surprise as we continue to dig deeper

4396
03:04:28,240 --> 03:04:30,720
into this? No pun intended. Yes,

4397
03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:32,960
potentially. Um, but right now we

4398
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:34,640
actually feel pretty comfortable,

4399
03:04:34,640 --> 03:04:36,160
especially because our civil engineer

4400
03:04:36,160 --> 03:04:38,160
has dug into things like engineering

4401
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:40,720
costs, the amount of length of pipe that

4402
03:04:40,720 --> 03:04:42,880
would be needed. So, for this

4403
03:04:42,880 --> 03:04:46,160
preliminary phase, we we got pretty far

4404
03:04:46,160 --> 03:04:48,160
with with respect to the utilities.

4405
03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:48,640
Yeah.

4406
03:04:48,640 --> 03:04:49,279
>> Thank you.

4407
03:04:49,279 --> 03:04:51,840
>> You're welcome.

4408
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:54,560
Um any additional um comments from the

4409
03:04:54,560 --> 03:04:58,000
com Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry.

4410
03:04:58,000 --> 03:04:58,960
Council member Crowley,

4411
03:04:58,960 --> 03:05:01,040
>> we don't have comments. How long do you

4412
03:05:01,040 --> 03:05:02,560
know me?

4413
03:05:02,560 --> 03:05:04,080
>> How long have we been working together?

4414
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:06,560
>> Please say Council Member Crowley. Yes.

4415
03:05:06,560 --> 03:05:08,319
>> Um All right. It's late or getting

4416
03:05:08,319 --> 03:05:11,120
punchy. Okay. Um a couple of things just

4417
03:05:11,120 --> 03:05:13,200
to back up where we've been over the

4418
03:05:13,200 --> 03:05:14,800
past couple years because that is a

4419
03:05:14,800 --> 03:05:17,279
valid question and I think we have to be

4420
03:05:17,279 --> 03:05:19,120
uh prepared to answer it over and over.

4421
03:05:19,120 --> 03:05:20,720
Why didn't Hillsboro fight more

4422
03:05:20,720 --> 03:05:24,240
aggressively against this state? Um, so,

4423
03:05:24,240 --> 03:05:26,560
uh, Southern California was given this

4424
03:05:26,560 --> 03:05:30,319
set of of rules basically a year before

4425
03:05:30,319 --> 03:05:32,479
Northern California. Of all the

4426
03:05:32,479 --> 03:05:34,720
municipalities in Southern California, a

4427
03:05:34,720 --> 03:05:36,560
number of them sued the state and pushed

4428
03:05:36,560 --> 03:05:39,520
back. None of them won. They all lost.

4429
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:42,800
So, um, and the, um, they all lost their

4430
03:05:42,800 --> 03:05:45,680
lawsuits. And if we, every dollar that

4431
03:05:45,680 --> 03:05:47,279
we spend here in Hillsboro comes right

4432
03:05:47,279 --> 03:05:48,880
out of our residents pockets. We don't

4433
03:05:48,880 --> 03:05:51,120
have any commercial. So if we spend a

4434
03:05:51,120 --> 03:05:52,720
million dollars on a lawsuit, that's

4435
03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:55,520
divided up around among 3,900

4436
03:05:55,520 --> 03:05:57,439
households. So we're careful about that

4437
03:05:57,439 --> 03:05:59,520
and we don't want to waste your money.

4438
03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:03,040
Um the uh the penalty for not being in

4439
03:06:03,040 --> 03:06:04,720
compliance with your housing element in

4440
03:06:04,720 --> 03:06:06,240
the state of California is something

4441
03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:08,399
called the builder's remedy, which means

4442
03:06:08,399 --> 03:06:11,120
that a builder, you no longer as a

4443
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:13,840
municipality have zoning control. So if

4444
03:06:13,840 --> 03:06:17,040
we are not in compliance with the state

4445
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:20,479
then the uh default zoning is 20 units

4446
03:06:20,479 --> 03:06:23,520
per acre and that's anywhere in town. So

4447
03:06:23,520 --> 03:06:27,359
we as a council and with the um we did

4448
03:06:27,359 --> 03:06:31,439
have a an advisory group of of residents

4449
03:06:31,439 --> 03:06:34,000
and many many community meetings on this

4450
03:06:34,000 --> 03:06:36,880
um we thought it felt very strongly that

4451
03:06:36,880 --> 03:06:38,399
is in the best interest of the town to

4452
03:06:38,399 --> 03:06:41,120
comply but I can understand why it seems

4453
03:06:41,120 --> 03:06:46,319
crazy. Um, so as this plan, um, as far

4454
03:06:46,319 --> 03:06:48,560
as this plan goes, I I I want to thank

4455
03:06:48,560 --> 03:06:50,000
the subcommittee. I think you've done

4456
03:06:50,000 --> 03:06:52,640
great work. And also, um, Wendy, thank

4457
03:06:52,640 --> 03:06:59,359
you to you and Don. It's I think it's creative. I really like because

4458
03:06:59,359 --> 03:07:01,439
recognizing that there are residents

4459
03:07:01,439 --> 03:07:03,760
that live nearby and that they are going

4460
03:07:03,760 --> 03:07:05,920
to, you know, nobody likes change.

4461
03:07:05,920 --> 03:07:07,840
Nobody likes construction. We talked

4462
03:07:07,840 --> 03:07:10,720
about that with the last issue. But I do

4463
03:07:10,720 --> 03:07:13,840
like the emphasis on some community

4464
03:07:13,840 --> 03:07:16,000
benefits there. A community room. You're

4465
03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:19,279
talking about trails and enhanced in

4466
03:07:19,279 --> 03:07:21,600
somehow enhance the site for the

4467
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:23,840
surrounding neighbors. I think is a

4468
03:07:23,840 --> 03:07:28,880
great um goal. Um the the nice thing and

4469
03:07:28,880 --> 03:07:31,120
somebody brought up about our employees

4470
03:07:31,120 --> 03:07:33,520
about these town homes that will be for

4471
03:07:33,520 --> 03:07:36,160
sale. That's kind of the missing middle

4472
03:07:36,160 --> 03:07:39,359
in Sanonteo County. And I think those

4473
03:07:39,359 --> 03:07:41,840
ownership opportunities will be open to

4474
03:07:41,840 --> 03:07:43,680
our employees and I would absolutely

4475
03:07:43,680 --> 03:07:46,240
love to see our employees have equity in

4476
03:07:46,240 --> 03:07:49,760
the town of Hillsboro. Um phase two is

4477
03:07:49,760 --> 03:07:51,920
going to have a lot of community

4478
03:07:51,920 --> 03:07:53,840
engagement. So this is just the very

4479
03:07:53,840 --> 03:07:57,520
beginning. Um and again I think we want

4480
03:07:57,520 --> 03:07:59,279
to mitigate the effects on the neighbors

4481
03:07:59,279 --> 03:08:02,960
as much as possible. I still do have one

4482
03:08:02,960 --> 03:08:07,120
question. Um uh we already did SQA on

4483
03:08:07,120 --> 03:08:08,240
this site, didn't we?

4484
03:08:08,240 --> 03:08:09,200
>> We did. Yeah.

4485
03:08:09,200 --> 03:08:11,439
>> Yeah. Do do we need additional SQA? Is

4486
03:08:11,439 --> 03:08:13,359
that the because I saw that you were

4487
03:08:13,359 --> 03:08:16,080
leaving SQA out at this phase, but we

4488
03:08:16,080 --> 03:08:17,359
did SQA, I thought.

4489
03:08:17,359 --> 03:08:20,640
>> So, a specific development proposal will

4490
03:08:20,640 --> 03:08:22,800
end up needing to run through the

4491
03:08:22,800 --> 03:08:26,399
filters of the mitigation plan. And so

4492
03:08:26,399 --> 03:08:29,600
there may be additional um environmental

4493
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:32,080
uh review that's needed for biological

4494
03:08:32,080 --> 03:08:34,560
constraints in particular based off the

4495
03:08:34,560 --> 03:08:36,479
development footprint, but that's all in

4496
03:08:36,479 --> 03:08:39,680
your MMRP. So there was an initial

4497
03:08:39,680 --> 03:08:42,479
programmatic EI done and but the

4498
03:08:42,479 --> 03:08:46,479
mitigations did require more once more

4499
03:08:46,479 --> 03:08:49,600
specific specificity happened that those

4500
03:08:49,600 --> 03:08:51,840
that was studied. Since we already have

4501
03:08:51,840 --> 03:08:53,600
the preliminary, will it be less

4502
03:08:53,600 --> 03:08:55,520
expensive and a little faster or are we

4503
03:08:55,520 --> 03:08:57,359
sort of starting from scratch?

4504
03:08:57,359 --> 03:09:00,640
>> Um, it it it depends, I think, is is the

4505
03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:03,439
answer. Um, because if if there's no

4506
03:09:03,439 --> 03:09:06,560
additional um medications that are

4507
03:09:06,560 --> 03:09:08,560
necessary or it's it falls within what

4508
03:09:08,560 --> 03:09:10,240
was already studied, then an addendum

4509
03:09:10,240 --> 03:09:12,080
could happen. And I would welcome staff

4510
03:09:12,080 --> 03:09:14,560
to answer this as my own SQA experience.

4511
03:09:14,560 --> 03:09:16,160
But if it's something new, then you

4512
03:09:16,160 --> 03:09:18,720
would either do a supplemental EIR or

4513
03:09:18,720 --> 03:09:20,399
some it could be a more expanded

4514
03:09:20,399 --> 03:09:23,680
addendum uh to to address any additional

4515
03:09:23,680 --> 03:09:25,840
environmental constraints, but that

4516
03:09:25,840 --> 03:09:28,319
would be they did there was no specific

4517
03:09:28,319 --> 03:09:30,399
kind of general footprints outlined in

4518
03:09:30,399 --> 03:09:32,240
the original plan, but it was much more

4519
03:09:32,240 --> 03:09:36,160
programmatic. So, but yeah, I think the short answer is some things have

4520
03:09:36,160 --> 03:09:37,520
already been studied and those things

4521
03:09:37,520 --> 03:09:38,640
can be reused.

4522
03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:39,359
>> Okay. Yeah.

4523
03:09:39,359 --> 03:09:41,680
>> Thank you. Thank you. So, um I

4524
03:09:41,680 --> 03:09:44,319
appreciate how quickly, you know, as far

4525
03:09:44,319 --> 03:09:45,840
as these things go, that for three

4526
03:09:45,840 --> 03:09:48,000
months that you really did a lot of of

4527
03:09:48,000 --> 03:09:49,840
work and and that you brought it in

4528
03:09:49,840 --> 03:09:55,439
under the budget, which is wonderful. I do envision and hope um that we get

4529
03:09:55,439 --> 03:09:59,040
this kind of villagy feel, you know,

4530
03:09:59,040 --> 03:10:00,880
that that's what I hope. And that it

4531
03:10:00,880 --> 03:10:02,880
does enhance the town if we have to do

4532
03:10:02,880 --> 03:10:05,439
it. Um and that it does help our

4533
03:10:05,439 --> 03:10:07,920
employees and our educational community,

4534
03:10:07,920 --> 03:10:11,200
our teachers. Um, so my last question is

4535
03:10:11,200 --> 03:10:14,720
I'm not quite sure from um how much

4536
03:10:14,720 --> 03:10:17,279
we're voting on. It's a little vague in

4537
03:10:17,279 --> 03:10:20,000
the um I know it's budgeted already, but

4538
03:10:20,000 --> 03:10:21,840
I'm just not quite sure what what

4539
03:10:21,840 --> 03:10:23,200
allocation are we voting on.

4540
03:10:23,200 --> 03:10:24,319
>> We're just authorizing the

4541
03:10:24,319 --> 03:10:28,000
implementation of phase two to proceed.

4542
03:10:28,000 --> 03:10:29,840
>> You mean time, you know, cost is what

4543
03:10:29,840 --> 03:10:30,399
you're asking.

4544
03:10:30,399 --> 03:10:33,840
>> Whatever is spent add up to be.

4545
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:35,920
>> Okay. So, we've already allocated the

4546
03:10:35,920 --> 03:10:37,279
539

4547
03:10:37,279 --> 03:10:39,680
>> and so we're not going over that. No,

4548
03:10:39,680 --> 03:10:41,920
we're just voting on phase two and it

4549
03:10:41,920 --> 03:10:43,200
will not go over that. Thank you.

4550
03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:44,560
>> That's right. It's already included

4551
03:10:44,560 --> 03:10:46,399
phase two and three. One, two, and Yeah,

4552
03:10:46,399 --> 03:10:49,200
that that Yeah, we're not asking for

4553
03:10:49,200 --> 03:10:50,720
additional funding. It's already

4554
03:10:50,720 --> 03:10:55,030
budgeted. Correct.

4555
03:10:55,040 --> 03:10:56,560
» Um,

4556
03:10:56,560 --> 03:10:59,120
so we do we have a consensus to move

4557
03:10:59,120 --> 03:11:00,880
forward with implementation of phase two

4558
03:11:00,880 --> 03:11:04,160
of the project? I move that we authorize

4559
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:08,479
phase two. All those in favor say I.

4560
03:11:08,479 --> 03:11:11,680
>> Second. Please second.

4561
03:11:11,680 --> 03:11:13,040
>> All those in favor say I.

4562
03:11:13,040 --> 03:11:14,640
>> Second. But I thought I heard another

4563
03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:15,120
second.

4564
03:11:15,120 --> 03:11:16,800
>> Oh, I'm sorry. What did Council Member

4565
03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:18,880
Chang?

4566
03:11:18,880 --> 03:11:19,600
>> You should do that.

4567
03:11:19,600 --> 03:11:21,600
>> Okay. The motion

4568
03:11:21,600 --> 03:11:24,080
um we have a second. We have a second

4569
03:11:24,080 --> 03:11:26,560
from Council Member Adams. And all those

4570
03:11:26,560 --> 03:11:27,920
in favor say I.

4571
03:11:27,920 --> 03:11:30,560
>> I.

4572
03:11:30,560 --> 03:11:32,479
And we look forward to seeing you in the

4573
03:11:32,479 --> 03:11:34,240
community. We look forward to seeing all

4574
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:35,760
of you in the community engagement

4575
03:11:35,760 --> 03:11:37,359
process because we do want

4576
03:11:37,359 --> 03:11:38,479
>> Wait a minute. Was there was there an

4577
03:11:38,479 --> 03:11:41,359
objection or no, we're all in favor of

4578
03:11:41,359 --> 03:11:43,439
proceeding to phase two. Okay. Correct.

4579
03:11:43,439 --> 03:11:46,319
>> But the mayor, I do have questions. Um I

4580
03:11:46,319 --> 03:11:48,960
think over the this uh item there's

4581
03:11:48,960 --> 03:11:51,200
several mentioned about this becoming a

4582
03:11:51,200 --> 03:11:54,240
standing committees and then no you know

4583
03:11:54,240 --> 03:11:57,359
and then all these meetings will be

4584
03:11:57,359 --> 03:11:59,760
agendaized and publicized. So the

4585
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:02,880
publics are invited to join us at those

4586
03:12:02,880 --> 03:12:06,240
meetings to hear about the presentation.

4587
03:12:06,240 --> 03:12:08,560
So that would one way to keep you

4588
03:12:08,560 --> 03:12:10,399
informed as to what happened

4589
03:12:10,399 --> 03:12:12,560
>> as well as the neighborhood outreach

4590
03:12:12,560 --> 03:12:13,920
which we'll be doing which is very

4591
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:16,160
targeted and specific. But there will be

4592
03:12:16,160 --> 03:12:18,240
opportunities in the subcommittee to

4593
03:12:18,240 --> 03:12:20,160
participate in those meetings as well.

4594
03:12:20,160 --> 03:12:21,840
So thanks for all your comments and your

4595
03:12:21,840 --> 03:12:25,200
input. It's u much appreciated and we'll

4596
03:12:25,200 --> 03:12:26,560
continue to work with the community as

4597
03:12:26,560 --> 03:12:28,479
we move forward. Thank you and thanks to

4598
03:12:28,479 --> 03:12:29,680
our consultants

4599
03:12:29,680 --> 03:12:31,359
>> through the mayor. Just want to add um

4600
03:12:31,359 --> 03:12:34,000
if you haven't already given um clerk

4601
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:37,200
Natush your um email address, she will

4602
03:12:37,200 --> 03:12:39,120
make sure to put you on a list to get

4603
03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:41,920
further um notice of any time this topic

4604
03:12:41,920 --> 03:12:44,800
comes up.

4605
03:12:44,800 --> 03:12:48,560
>> Okay. Um that's the final agendaized

4606
03:12:48,560 --> 03:12:50,640
item and we'll now move to um city

4607
03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:52,720
council items. Thank you so much um

4608
03:12:52,720 --> 03:12:55,359
Wendy and Dunn. Appreciate it. City

4609
03:12:55,359 --> 03:12:57,120
Council items starting with council

4610
03:12:57,120 --> 03:13:00,630
member Adams.

4611
03:13:00,640 --> 03:13:04,880
» Uh thank you, Mayor Cole. So, uh May May

4612
03:13:04,880 --> 03:13:05,200
really

4613
03:13:05,200 --> 03:13:08,080
>> the lovely month of May. These are all

4614
03:13:08,080 --> 03:13:12,319
uh bumblebees bombas.

4615
03:13:12,319 --> 03:13:15,840
>> Oops. Next. So, uh year end for

4616
03:13:15,840 --> 03:13:19,359
Hillsboro Beautification Foundation. Uh

4617
03:13:19,359 --> 03:13:21,520
there is the beginning of a new design

4618
03:13:21,520 --> 03:13:24,880
and maintenance uh crew at Hayne Road

4619
03:13:24,880 --> 03:13:29,120
circle and also they held their donor

4620
03:13:29,120 --> 03:13:31,760
thanks you I don't think I meant to say

4621
03:13:31,760 --> 03:13:36,000
that at uh Carolyn's so they are all set

4622
03:13:36,000 --> 03:13:38,640
ready for the summer and they will start

4623
03:13:38,640 --> 03:13:42,080
up again in the fall next

4624
03:13:42,080 --> 03:13:45,600
uh we had our ad hoc meeting on Tobin

4625
03:13:45,600 --> 03:13:47,359
Clark you've just seen what we've been

4626
03:13:47,359 --> 03:13:49,680
up to and we're So delighted to be able

4627
03:13:49,680 --> 03:13:53,760
to share it with you. Uh draft ordinance

4628
03:13:53,760 --> 03:13:57,279
uh work for business licenses is also in

4629
03:13:57,279 --> 03:14:02,000
process. Next slide.

4630
03:14:02,000 --> 03:14:04,960
Uh working on an ad hoc committee as

4631
03:14:04,960 --> 03:14:07,200
well to redesign the outdoor learning

4632
03:14:07,200 --> 03:14:11,520
center at uh Shoreway Education Area.

4633
03:14:11,520 --> 03:14:15,120
And I just thought I'd throw in uh an

4634
03:14:15,120 --> 03:14:18,880
inspiring art piece uh that I saw in

4635
03:14:18,880 --> 03:14:22,960
Paris with uh these are uh like third

4636
03:14:22,960 --> 03:14:27,040
graders just really learning about uh

4637
03:14:27,040 --> 03:14:31,600
art, but we plan to have along the back

4638
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:34,800
wall that you see on the left an art

4639
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:38,479
piece that will either be

4640
03:14:38,479 --> 03:14:40,720
who knows what it'll be. Next, next

4641
03:14:40,720 --> 03:14:43,040
slide.

4642
03:14:43,040 --> 03:14:47,600
Uh, I graduated on uh, Friday uh, from

4643
03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:51,840
my leadership council San Mateo. Uh,

4644
03:14:51,840 --> 03:14:54,319
dignitaries from all over the Bay Area

4645
03:14:54,319 --> 03:14:57,439
showed up, but particularly Eddie Flores

4646
03:14:57,439 --> 03:15:01,200
from uh, South San Francisco and our

4647
03:15:01,200 --> 03:15:04,319
wonderful uh, council member and former

4648
03:15:04,319 --> 03:15:08,479
mayor uh, Marie Schwang. Uh it was

4649
03:15:08,479 --> 03:15:10,560
really great. There were two meetings

4650
03:15:10,560 --> 03:15:13,279
actually in May. There was one on uh

4651
03:15:13,279 --> 03:15:16,560
safety and security. Uh but I it was

4652
03:15:16,560 --> 03:15:19,120
held at the really beautiful South San

4653
03:15:19,120 --> 03:15:21,760
Francisco library and community center

4654
03:15:21,760 --> 03:15:25,439
and it has this wonderful uh playground

4655
03:15:25,439 --> 03:15:28,720
that I wanted you all to be inspired by.

4656
03:15:28,720 --> 03:15:32,229
Next,

4657
03:15:32,239 --> 03:15:34,560
uh, Tartan Trail work, uh, is beginning,

4658
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:37,760
but also, as you noted, Parkside Bridge

4659
03:15:37,760 --> 03:15:39,600
and Macadamia.

4660
03:15:39,600 --> 03:15:43,120
And I just wanted you to see

4661
03:15:43,120 --> 03:15:45,520
really what Tartan Trail is all about.

4662
03:15:45,520 --> 03:15:48,080
This has been a long process going

4663
03:15:48,080 --> 03:15:50,399
through trying to get uh, funding for

4664
03:15:50,399 --> 03:15:53,840
this. And I'm delighted that it has

4665
03:15:53,840 --> 03:15:58,000
started. Uh, as you know, public works

4666
03:15:58,000 --> 03:16:01,680
week was in May, and I want to thank

4667
03:16:01,680 --> 03:16:05,439
Council Member Crow, who came to that

4668
03:16:05,439 --> 03:16:08,160
meeting uh, as I was out of the country,

4669
03:16:08,160 --> 03:16:11,920
and uh, not only said wonderful things

4670
03:16:11,920 --> 03:16:14,880
about public works, but uh, shared her

4671
03:16:14,880 --> 03:16:17,040
wonderful baking, which we all

4672
03:16:17,040 --> 03:16:20,560
appreciate. Next.

4673
03:16:20,560 --> 03:16:22,800
And uh just uh after I got back from

4674
03:16:22,800 --> 03:16:27,040
Paris, I went to Austin, Texas uh where

4675
03:16:27,040 --> 03:16:30,720
I was also this was uh I was honored for

4676
03:16:30,720 --> 03:16:34,880
25 years on the board of a nonprofit

4677
03:16:34,880 --> 03:16:38,000
that works with major corporations to

4678
03:16:38,000 --> 03:16:40,479
get them to do environmental things on

4679
03:16:40,479 --> 03:16:43,120
their campuses. But I included a little

4680
03:16:43,120 --> 03:16:46,080
picture in one of the presentations uh

4681
03:16:46,080 --> 03:16:48,560
on the left that was uh one of the

4682
03:16:48,560 --> 03:16:50,319
posters that my organization put

4683
03:16:50,319 --> 03:16:52,160
together about the importance of

4684
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:55,359
pollinators at a Navajo Nation Earth

4685
03:16:55,359 --> 03:16:58,960
Day. So that really excited me. But I am

4686
03:16:58,960 --> 03:17:00,880
no longer in that business, but it was

4687
03:17:00,880 --> 03:17:04,479
nice to cap it off with 25 years. And I

4688
03:17:04,479 --> 03:17:06,160
think that's it.

4689
03:17:06,160 --> 03:17:09,520
>> Thank you. Um Council Member Schwang.

4690
03:17:09,520 --> 03:17:12,960
>> Uh sure. uh May it's very busy. Um so

4691
03:17:12,960 --> 03:17:16,960
start off with u menrin instructions for

4692
03:17:16,960 --> 03:17:21,040
it's very uh it was really well done and

4693
03:17:21,040 --> 03:17:25,680
um we uh graduated another sets of uh

4694
03:17:25,680 --> 03:17:28,800
Chinese u instructors. I think coming in

4695
03:17:28,800 --> 03:17:30,960
August we will be doing a train the

4696
03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:34,239
trainers in men Chinese. So that's also

4697
03:17:34,239 --> 03:17:36,880
very exciting. Um really appreciate the

4698
03:17:36,880 --> 03:17:41,439
CCFD fireboard. um uh goal setting

4699
03:17:41,439 --> 03:17:44,479
sessions. It was very helpful. Um and

4700
03:17:44,479 --> 03:17:47,920
then uh Samr moved to the new

4701
03:17:47,920 --> 03:17:50,080
headquarter in Milbury. So you're

4702
03:17:50,080 --> 03:17:53,680
welcome to come to visit in the uh new

4703
03:17:53,680 --> 03:17:56,800
headquarters. Um and I'm certainly happy

4704
03:17:56,800 --> 03:17:59,920
to give you a tour. Um, one of the

4705
03:17:59,920 --> 03:18:02,319
highlight in May is that I attended the

4706
03:18:02,319 --> 03:18:05,040
Crocker career day and I actually had

4707
03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:07,279
opportunity to meet some sixth graders

4708
03:18:07,279 --> 03:18:10,319
and speak on the local governments and

4709
03:18:10,319 --> 03:18:13,439
um, and why civic engagement

4710
03:18:13,439 --> 03:18:16,640
um, matters. Um, but I think that more

4711
03:18:16,640 --> 03:18:19,040
attractive is the ride along that I do

4712
03:18:19,040 --> 03:18:22,720
with police and fire that they got their

4713
03:18:22,720 --> 03:18:26,720
interest. Um and then um really want to

4714
03:18:26,720 --> 03:18:28,880
thank the Memorial Day uh event

4715
03:18:28,880 --> 03:18:32,720
committees. Um fabulous jobs, fabulous

4716
03:18:32,720 --> 03:18:35,680
um events. I think what is it last last

4717
03:18:35,680 --> 03:18:38,479
time I heard it was like over 2,000 in

4718
03:18:38,479 --> 03:18:40,399
attendance.

4719
03:18:40,399 --> 03:18:43,600
Why quite a um community events in the

4720
03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:47,439
in our um area. Um and then congratulate

4721
03:18:47,439 --> 03:18:50,560
um congratulation to our um council

4722
03:18:50,560 --> 03:18:52,880
member Adams for graduating from the

4723
03:18:52,880 --> 03:18:56,319
legal uh leadership council of Satell

4724
03:18:56,319 --> 03:19:00,720
County. Um it's quite a intense 10 month

4725
03:19:00,720 --> 03:19:03,840
um but you certainly represent as well.

4726
03:19:03,840 --> 03:19:08,720
I think that um Vicki um

4727
03:19:08,720 --> 03:19:10,399
Ramen

4728
03:19:10,399 --> 03:19:13,120
thank you. Um Vicki is also in the

4729
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:15,840
emerging leadership uh program and so

4730
03:19:15,840 --> 03:19:18,319
that's really exciting to see um

4731
03:19:18,319 --> 03:19:22,080
Hillsboro represented. So that's it.

4732
03:19:22,080 --> 03:19:24,479
>> Thank you. Um

4733
03:19:24,479 --> 03:19:26,399
Council Member Crowley.

4734
03:19:26,399 --> 03:19:28,399
>> All right. Great. Memorial Day thank

4735
03:19:28,399 --> 03:19:32,640
yous. Um HPD public works finance. Thank

4736
03:19:32,640 --> 03:19:35,600
you for all your support. Um also

4737
03:19:35,600 --> 03:19:38,319
appreciate the city manager and uh his

4738
03:19:38,319 --> 03:19:41,600
office and the council support. Um,

4739
03:19:41,600 --> 03:19:43,680
thank you to Marie and Leslie for being

4740
03:19:43,680 --> 03:19:47,040
on the committee. Um, thank you for

4741
03:19:47,040 --> 03:19:50,000
everyone who came out. It really it was

4742
03:19:50,000 --> 03:19:52,560
a a great day. We just had perfect

4743
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:55,120
weather, not too hot and not too cold.

4744
03:19:55,120 --> 03:19:59,040
And um, all the cars worked and um, it

4745
03:19:59,040 --> 03:20:01,760
went very very smoothly. John Mullen

4746
03:20:01,760 --> 03:20:04,399
came back and helped us stage cars. We

4747
03:20:04,399 --> 03:20:07,359
didn't have the cadetses, but um but we

4748
03:20:07,359 --> 03:20:10,319
filled in um and it it it just worked

4749
03:20:10,319 --> 03:20:13,120
very very smoothly. Um please mark your

4750
03:20:13,120 --> 03:20:14,880
calendar. Come out to the concour on

4751
03:20:14,880 --> 03:20:16,800
June 28th. It's going to be a beautiful

4752
03:20:16,800 --> 03:20:19,040
show. Um the road rally is the day

4753
03:20:19,040 --> 03:20:22,160
before on the 27th and um the lunch is

4754
03:20:22,160 --> 03:20:25,040
going to be at the the Johnson's former

4755
03:20:25,040 --> 03:20:27,040
home right across the street from North.

4756
03:20:27,040 --> 03:20:29,200
But come out to the concour. Don't miss

4757
03:20:29,200 --> 03:20:31,359
this show and tell everybody to come.

4758
03:20:31,359 --> 03:20:33,600
People come from all over the western

4759
03:20:33,600 --> 03:20:35,279
United States to come to the show and

4760
03:20:35,279 --> 03:20:37,279
people in Hillsboro don't go up the

4761
03:20:37,279 --> 03:20:39,840
hill. And it really is like Brigadeun. I

4762
03:20:39,840 --> 03:20:41,359
mean, you come across the hill and

4763
03:20:41,359 --> 03:20:44,399
there's 250 absolutely beautiful cars.

4764
03:20:44,399 --> 03:20:46,560
The food is great. It's just a great day

4765
03:20:46,560 --> 03:20:48,000
and something we should really be proud

4766
03:20:48,000 --> 03:20:50,080
of and thank you to the community for

4767
03:20:50,080 --> 03:20:53,359
supporting it. Um air San Francisco out

4768
03:20:53,359 --> 03:20:55,359
airport round table was last week. The

4769
03:20:55,359 --> 03:20:59,439
vertaports again are the the the big um

4770
03:20:59,439 --> 03:21:02,399
issue with these vertical

4771
03:21:02,399 --> 03:21:04,720
um electric vehicles that are going to

4772
03:21:04,720 --> 03:21:06,960
be trans transporting people. I don't

4773
03:21:06,960 --> 03:21:08,640
think people in Hillsboro will be using

4774
03:21:08,640 --> 03:21:10,319
them much because we live so close to

4775
03:21:10,319 --> 03:21:12,560
the airport, but people from Marin

4776
03:21:12,560 --> 03:21:13,760
certainly will and they're going to be

4777
03:21:13,760 --> 03:21:17,439
looking for places to land. So the

4778
03:21:17,439 --> 03:21:21,040
roundt is trying to come up with

4779
03:21:21,040 --> 03:21:23,040
something that all municipalities can

4780
03:21:23,040 --> 03:21:25,040
use as kind of a temp template, but from

4781
03:21:25,040 --> 03:21:26,640
what I understand, South San Francisco

4782
03:21:26,640 --> 03:21:29,040
has already signed a contract for one

4783
03:21:29,040 --> 03:21:32,800
vertart over by uh Oyster Point. Um I

4784
03:21:32,800 --> 03:21:34,640
also went to the Carolinas for the HBF

4785
03:21:34,640 --> 03:21:37,120
event. It was great. Pride is tomorrow

4786
03:21:37,120 --> 03:21:39,359
and I'm so h the youth commission is

4787
03:21:39,359 --> 03:21:41,840
just run with this and William is

4788
03:21:41,840 --> 03:21:45,600
working with them. Um and probably Mandy

4789
03:21:45,600 --> 03:21:47,680
and Leslie too, but I know William is

4790
03:21:47,680 --> 03:21:49,680
ordering all their swag and refreshments

4791
03:21:49,680 --> 03:21:52,560
and they they are just running with it

4792
03:21:52,560 --> 03:21:54,640
and I'm so pleased and so proud of them.

4793
03:21:54,640 --> 03:21:56,560
So that's four o'clock tomorrow. And

4794
03:21:56,560 --> 03:21:58,640
just lastly I had a nice talk with Joe

4795
03:21:58,640 --> 03:22:01,680
Lamarana from um Rethink Waste. He's my

4796
03:22:01,680 --> 03:22:04,080
buddy at Rotary and he could not say

4797
03:22:04,080 --> 03:22:06,479
enough nice things about Mandy Brown and

4798
03:22:06,479 --> 03:22:09,120
Lorie Davis Adams. So, and he's

4799
03:22:09,120 --> 03:22:10,960
specifically said to me, "They represent

4800
03:22:10,960 --> 03:22:12,960
your town so well." So, thank you to

4801
03:22:12,960 --> 03:22:14,640
both of you.

4802
03:22:14,640 --> 03:22:19,200
>> Thank you. Um, Vice Mayor Rexdale.

4803
03:22:19,200 --> 03:22:20,720
>> Yes.

4804
03:22:20,720 --> 03:22:22,640
Who knows what I I put this together a

4805
03:22:22,640 --> 03:22:24,560
couple days ago because I was away and

4806
03:22:24,560 --> 03:22:27,600
so sorry to miss both the HBF event and

4807
03:22:27,600 --> 03:22:31,200
your graduation. I was away. um for a

4808
03:22:31,200 --> 03:22:33,760
couple days. Um all right, what have I

4809
03:22:33,760 --> 03:22:36,640
got? Ebikes. Uh continuing to follow.

4810
03:22:36,640 --> 03:22:40,399
I'm in uh continual conversation with um

4811
03:22:40,399 --> 03:22:42,960
a doctor who's spoken all over the

4812
03:22:42,960 --> 03:22:45,439
country about this issue and uh he's

4813
03:22:45,439 --> 03:22:48,399
keeping me a breast and the bills are

4814
03:22:48,399 --> 03:22:50,640
moving into the or have moved into the

4815
03:22:50,640 --> 03:22:55,359
Senate and uh we'll be having um

4816
03:22:55,359 --> 03:22:58,160
hearings probably later this month, one

4817
03:22:58,160 --> 03:23:00,399
of them definitely later this month. Uh

4818
03:23:00,399 --> 03:23:03,680
Memorial Day parade uh just thank you to

4819
03:23:03,680 --> 03:23:07,200
everyone just fantastic event. Um, and

4820
03:23:07,200 --> 03:23:09,920
uh, I would have to say that it's like

4821
03:23:09,920 --> 03:23:12,000
the mom taking the smallest piece of

4822
03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:14,880
meat. Council member Krollic was not in

4823
03:23:14,880 --> 03:23:18,000
a car after she found cars for

4824
03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:20,479
everybody. She could she could she's an

4825
03:23:20,479 --> 03:23:22,000
Excel spreadsheet in her head. She could

4826
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:24,560
tell you every car, every person in it,

4827
03:23:24,560 --> 03:23:26,000
the year of the car, the color of the

4828
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:28,399
car, the owner, and she walked.

4829
03:23:28,399 --> 03:23:28,800
>> So,

4830
03:23:28,800 --> 03:23:31,200
>> I was going to put myself on the vintage

4831
03:23:31,200 --> 03:23:33,040
firet truck with rotary, but I'd never

4832
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:35,200
seen the vehicle before. when it came,

4833
03:23:35,200 --> 03:23:37,439
it really wasn't going to work. So, um,

4834
03:23:37,439 --> 03:23:39,520
Rotary got on it and Jeff and I had a

4835
03:23:39,520 --> 03:23:41,840
nice walk. It was pleasant.

4836
03:23:41,840 --> 03:23:44,479
>> Very sweet. Um, and oh, and I can't take

4837
03:23:44,479 --> 03:23:47,680
any credit for the Pride Festival or

4838
03:23:47,680 --> 03:23:49,439
Pride event tomorrow, but I'm very

4839
03:23:49,439 --> 03:23:51,439
excited and I love our youth commission,

4840
03:23:51,439 --> 03:23:53,600
but I I have not helped on this, so I'm

4841
03:23:53,600 --> 03:23:56,960
super excited to attend. Uh, next slide.

4842
03:23:56,960 --> 03:24:00,239
Oh. Um, I listened to I know this isn't

4843
03:24:00,239 --> 03:24:02,239
that flattering of a picture, but I was

4844
03:24:02,239 --> 03:24:04,800
trying to take a picture of um I

4845
03:24:04,800 --> 03:24:07,520
listened in on the vehicle license fee

4846
03:24:07,520 --> 03:24:12,319
um uh webinar hosted by the county and

4847
03:24:12,319 --> 03:24:14,560
um I think you guys all are up to date

4848
03:24:14,560 --> 03:24:19,200
on that situation. Uh next slide.

4849
03:24:19,200 --> 03:24:22,560
Uh Peninsula Clean Energy. Oh, I went to

4850
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:25,359
the um Cal CCA Community Choice

4851
03:24:25,359 --> 03:24:28,000
Aggregators Conference in Sacramento.

4852
03:24:28,000 --> 03:24:31,040
Learned a lot. Uh we unveiled Westlate

4853
03:24:31,040 --> 03:24:33,920
Energy to that community um and

4854
03:24:33,920 --> 03:24:35,920
everyone's very excited for us. It will

4855
03:24:35,920 --> 03:24:40,160
be officially unveiled um July 1, but

4856
03:24:40,160 --> 03:24:42,640
the Secretary of State has approved the

4857
03:24:42,640 --> 03:24:44,720
new name and they are moving forward.

4858
03:24:44,720 --> 03:24:46,479
They're going to unveil it to the

4859
03:24:46,479 --> 03:24:50,239
vendors and P Gen to because your PCE

4860
03:24:50,239 --> 03:24:53,279
soon to be West Light Energy. Um that is

4861
03:24:53,279 --> 03:24:55,520
on your P Gen bill. So we need to work

4862
03:24:55,520 --> 03:24:58,239
with them to get it uh the new name on

4863
03:24:58,239 --> 03:25:02,479
the bill. Uh as uh Council Member Adams

4864
03:25:02,479 --> 03:25:04,399
mentioned, we are still moving forward

4865
03:25:04,399 --> 03:25:09,279
with our um ad hoc ordinance committee

4866
03:25:09,279 --> 03:25:12,239
uh town hall subcommittee. We have we

4867
03:25:12,239 --> 03:25:14,560
have public meetings now. I attended one

4868
03:25:14,560 --> 03:25:17,600
by Zoom which was a which was a it was

4869
03:25:17,600 --> 03:25:20,080
an interesting experience but um and

4870
03:25:20,080 --> 03:25:22,319
Christine was there and um yes well we

4871
03:25:22,319 --> 03:25:24,000
are moving forward and we will be

4872
03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:29,680
updating you all soon and uh next slide

4873
03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:33,840
Bosa at a board meeting apparently.

4874
03:25:33,840 --> 03:25:35,760
Next slide.

4875
03:25:35,760 --> 03:25:38,880
Oh, Town of Hillsboro was awarded

4876
03:25:38,880 --> 03:25:40,560
commute.org or which I don't talk about

4877
03:25:40,560 --> 03:25:43,920
a lot. Um but we were awarded the silver

4878
03:25:43,920 --> 03:25:47,279
le level of certification for um

4879
03:25:47,279 --> 03:25:49,600
encouraging our employees to take

4880
03:25:49,600 --> 03:25:53,359
transportation and um William head of HR

4881
03:25:53,359 --> 03:25:56,080
among all the other things that he does.

4882
03:25:56,080 --> 03:26:01,200
>> Uh he gets the word out about their programs and their um commuter

4883
03:26:01,200 --> 03:26:04,560
star app is always in our uh in the

4884
03:26:04,560 --> 03:26:08,319
e-news and I think that is it.

4885
03:26:08,319 --> 03:26:09,600
Yep.

4886
03:26:09,600 --> 03:26:12,319
Uh, thank you. Um, I attended many of

4887
03:26:12,319 --> 03:26:14,800
the meetings you've already reported on,

4888
03:26:14,800 --> 03:26:17,439
so I do not have anything else to add. I

4889
03:26:17,439 --> 03:26:18,880
don't have anything to report, but

4890
03:26:18,880 --> 03:26:20,960
thanks especially to all of those

4891
03:26:20,960 --> 03:26:22,720
involved in the Memorial Day parade. I

4892
03:26:22,720 --> 03:26:25,200
thought that was an outstanding event.

4893
03:26:25,200 --> 03:26:29,200
And um, with that said, I believe this

4894
03:26:29,200 --> 03:26:33,040
meeting is adjourned. Thank you.

4895
03:26:33,040 --> 03:26:35,120
We we

4896
03:26:35,120 --> 03:26:37,120
know

4897
03:26:37,120 --> 03:26:40,790
remembered. I was like,

4898
03:26:40,800 --> 03:26:44,309
» "Okay,

4899
03:26:44,319 --> 03:26:52,229
hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Where is it?"

4900
03:26:52,239 --> 03:26:57,349
Yellow.

4901
03:26:57,359 --> 03:26:59,520
» Oh,

4902
03:26:59,520 --> 03:27:03,359
yeah. have a yellow for it. Okay, we do

4903
03:27:03,359 --> 03:27:07,600
have um the Hillsboro Public Improvement

4904
03:27:07,600 --> 03:27:10,479
Corporation annual board meeting. Um

4905
03:27:10,479 --> 03:27:13,840
that meeting is now called to order

4906
03:27:13,840 --> 03:27:16,800
and on the consent consent calendar. Um

4907
03:27:16,800 --> 03:27:19,359
oh, first of all, roll call. Sorry.

4908
03:27:19,359 --> 03:27:21,200
>> Adams

4909
03:27:21,200 --> 03:27:21,840
>> present.

4910
03:27:21,840 --> 03:27:23,680
>> Schwang Kurlic

4911
03:27:23,680 --> 03:27:24,239
>> present.

4912
03:27:24,239 --> 03:27:26,479
>> Ragdale present. Cole

4913
03:27:26,479 --> 03:27:27,120
>> present.

4914
03:27:27,120 --> 03:27:29,040
>> Thank you.

4915
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:31,600
Um, we have on the consent, we have on

4916
03:27:31,600 --> 03:27:35,520
the consent calendar, approve item one,

4917
03:27:35,520 --> 03:27:37,279
approve Hillsboro Public Improvement

4918
03:27:37,279 --> 03:27:40,319
Corporation meeting minutes of June 9th,

4919
03:27:40,319 --> 03:27:42,399
2025.

4920
03:27:42,399 --> 03:27:46,479
So moved. Oh, hold on.

4921
03:27:46,479 --> 03:27:48,319
Item two, confirm appointment of

4922
03:27:48,319 --> 03:27:50,239
Hillsboro Public Improvement Corporation

4923
03:27:50,239 --> 03:27:52,239
Board of Directors.

4924
03:27:52,239 --> 03:27:55,680
Um, any public comments on items on the

4925
03:27:55,680 --> 03:27:57,439
agenda?

4926
03:27:57,439 --> 03:28:01,680
Seeing none in chambers, none in zoom.

4927
03:28:01,680 --> 03:28:02,880
>> Do we have a second?

4928
03:28:02,880 --> 03:28:05,279
>> Second. All those in favor say I.

4929
03:28:05,279 --> 03:28:06,080
>> I.

4930
03:28:06,080 --> 03:28:11,640
This meeting is now. Thank you.