Good afternoon. The Hillsboro City
Council meeting is now called to order.
Um, city clerk, may we please have the
roll call?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole Adams
>> present.
Crow
>> present.
>> Ragdale
>> present. Cole
>> present. Um, do we have any um conflicts
of interest from the council um on any
items that are on the close session item
agenda?
Seeing none, let me announce the um
items on close session agenda.
Item A, conference with legal council
existing litigation, town of Hillsboro
versus all persons interested in the
matter of the proceedings for resolution
adopting maximum rates for water service
charges.
Item B, conference with legal council,
anticipated litigation pursu pursuant to
government code section 54956.9,
print D, print 2, one or more potential
cases. Item C, conference with legal
council, existing litigation,
county of San Mateo, town of Hills,
Hillsboro at all versus the state of
California, San Francisco Superior
Court, case number CPF25-519270
lawsuit regarding vehicle license fees.
Item D, public employee performance
evaluation title city attorney.
Do we have any um public comment on on
any of the close session items?
>> No, mayor call. Thank you.
>> Thank you. And we will now adjourn to
the close session in the administrative
conference room. The regular city
council meeting will resume um at 6 p.m.
Thank you.
» Good evening everyone. The Hillsboro
City Council meeting is now called to
order. The time is 6:04,
July 13th.
Um, city clerk, may we please have the
roll call.
>> Thank you. Adams,
>> present. Schwang
>> Crowig,
>> present. Braxdale,
>> present. Cole,
>> present.
>> Thank you.
>> City attorney D, is there a report from
close session?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Just wanted to
announce for the public that the council
did convene in close session a little
earlier today to consider four items. Uh
with regard to item C on the close
session agenda regarding the existing
lawsuit against the state of California
regarding vehicle license fees. I wanted
to note that the council did provide
unanimous consent uh to to the city
attorney to dismiss that lawsuit um in cooperation with the county of Samale
and all of the cities within the county.
Thank you.
» Thank you. Um, I see I skipped a very
important part of our uh evening. Please
join me as we pledge allegiance to the
flag.
Thank you.
Okay. Um
we have a couple of proclamations. We're
honored to present two uh proclamations
this evening before we get started with
the meeting. And um our first
proclamation, we're honored tonight to
have um the Rethink Trash um Rethink
Waste Trash Art Contest. It's an
individual fourth grade um uh
competition contest. And tonight, I
would like to invite South School
student Reef to the podium to receive
the certificate certificate in
recognition of his efforts. We are so
happy to have the opportunity to
recognize you again, Reef, this year.
And this time as the first place winner
in the individual fourth grade category
for your art piece. Quite impressive.
Cardboard crew reef. Um could you tell
us a little bit about this piece
before? Hi council. My name is Reo
Sagera. I am the um education specialist
over at Rethink Waste. Um before I re I
let Reef speak about his wonderful
project, I wanted to give you a little
bit of background about our contest. So
each spring, Rethink Waste hosts our
annual trash to art contest, which is
open to all third through fifth grade
classes and individual students in the
Rethink Waste service area. The contest
challenges students to give trash a new
meaning by creating artwork from
material collected from everyday life
which would have been recycled or thrown
away. Three winners and two honorable
mentions were recognized by Rethink
Waste this year. Tonight we are honoring
our first place winner of the individual
fourth grade category. Please join me in
congratulating Reef from South Hillsboro
Elementary School.
>> All right.
So Reef has a couple of things to say
about his project. So Reef, could you
introduce yourself?
>> My name is Ree. I'm in fourth grade
going into this.
>> I go to South School.
>> Perfect. And what was your inspiration
for your project?
>> Um, my inspiration comes from lots of
movies and books that I um watch or read
that have um like these ships.
» Inspirational ships. And what was your
process and what materials did you use
to make this?
>> Um, I used cardboard for the hole, paper
for the sails.
um
string to for for
the ropes, bottle caps, um toothpicks,
hot glue, and tape.
>> Awesome. Can you pull that up?
>> Perfect.
>> Wow.
» That one is a Chinese junk boat.
This one's a Viking ship.
» Uh, this one's a gallion.
>> So detailed. Congratulations.
>> Congratulations. Um, we we have a
proclamation for you and I've asked Council Member Adams to read
the proclamation for you. Well, it was
such a pleasure to give you this award
this year, Reef. We're so proud of you,
but uh maybe his grandfather can help
me. He's sort of like a Rory Mroy. He
did it two years in a row. Uh you were
the number one winner last year as well.
So, I was very impressed when I talked
to you about how much research you had
done on this and how many drawings you
had done. And I did share uh this
photograph at a convention uh I attended
for the environment in Austin, Texas.
And uh people from other companies uh
were very interested in following suit
and doing trash for art. So you are
really changing things across the
country and we're so proud of you. So
let me read the certificate of
recognition. The city council of the
town of Hillsboro extends congratulatory
reg rec recognition to Reef C. Macdonald
fourth grade South Hillsboro Elementary
School as the first place winner of the
2026 Rethink Waste Trash to art contest
individual fourth grade category for his
piece cardboard crew. You are to be
admired and commended for your efforts.
Thank you, Reef.
>> Thank you.
» Keep up the good work.
» We're going to take a photograph.
Yeah, I'll join you.
» Yes.
Thank you.
» Congratulations again. We're very proud
of you.
Okay. Um our next uh presentation is a
proclamation to some Crocker alumni.
This is such a brilliant idea. When
these um
students, well, these alums from Crocker
reached out to me. I was like, what a
brilliant idea. Why didn't I think of
that? So anyways, um these are students
who reached out to me several months ago
and asked if we could do this very
special proclamation for William H.
Crocker School class of 1976 day on
August 8th, 2026, which is what we're
going to proclaim this evening. Whereas
the William H. Crocker School class of
1976 has reached the remarkable
milestones of its 50th reunion,
celebrating five decades of enduring
friendships, shared memories, and
lifelong accomplishments.
And whereas the members of the class of
1976 have made meaningful contributions
to their families, professions,
communities, and society, reflecting the
values and education instilled during
their years at William H. Crocker
School. And whereas the bonds formed
among classmates have withtood the test
of time, demonstrating the lasting
impact of education, community, and
shared experiences.
And whereas the 50th reunion provides an
opportunity to honor the achievements of
the class of 1976
and celebrate the legacy they continue
to leave for future generations.
And whereas this reunion serves as a
statement to the importance of
preserving the history and traditions of
William H. Crocker School while
inspiring continued pride among its
alumni.
Now therefore be it resolved that the
city council of the town of Hillsboro
does hereby proclaim August 8th, 2026
as William H. Crocker School class of
1976 day in the town of Hillsboro and
encourage all alumni, families, friends,
and members of the community to join in recognizing the class of 1976
for its enduring spirit and
contributions over the past 50 years and
to celebrate this historic union with
pride, gratitude, and hope for many
years of continued connection. signed by
me, Mayor Cole, on July 13, 2026.
Congratulations. We have some alums in
the audience.
I think it's just amazing um first of
all that you guys have stayed so
connected and I was so honored when I
read that email that came a couple of
months ago and um thanks to our city
clerk Lisa Nush and the staff for
helping me put together this
proclamation. So, we have uh three
Crocker alumni present tonight, Leslie
Goldstein, Art Michael, and Jimmy Robert
to receive this proclamation. Thank you.
Oh, yes. They can can be Yeah.
You're welcome.
Congratulations again, Reed. That's
awesome.
See you next year.
The next item on our agenda is the town
updates
and that will be presented by our by
assistant city manager Mandy Brown.
>> Okay, not nearly as exciting as either
of those presentations.
>> Um, this is a little exciting. Um, you
may have noticed that there is a no left
turns in the El Camino construction
zone. causing some delays and having to
reroute. Um there is signage posted and
HPD is conducting enforcement. Lots of
warnings going out. Um so just make sure
to plan your route accordingly. Um I
know we're all getting used to the new
normal of the El Camino construction.
Uh Concord Deans, thanks to everybody
who attended and I just wanted to share
some wonderful photos from their website
from their 70th anniversary show. Uh, so
showing the best of show winner and then
the sport show winner. And I'm sure um,
council member Krollic can add on to
this during her comments as well.
Back to Rethink Waste. They are doing
another swap event. This one is back to
school themed. So, at their offices, um,
just trying to get gently used school
supplies. So, if you have anything to
donate as you're getting ready for the
school season, um, this is a great
event.
And this is a new contest that I'm sure
our resident artist extraordinaire will
be um winning, dominating, whatever she
does. Uh so this is a sticker design
contest. So to design a sticker for
Rethink Ways to Giveaway at their
upcoming events. Um and so a new
category uh for all of our young
residents to submit in.
Uh we had this um announcement more
recently. It's also uh in full detail uh
in the weekly newsletter as well, the uh
bulletin. Uh just reminding folks that
the nomination period uh begins today,
Monday, July 13th.
We we get getting a lot of chicken
calls. Um just kind of questions of is
it allowed? I hear chickens. Um so just
a reminder that chickens are permitted
in town. Um, but you do need to have a
permit. Um, and there are restrictions
on the location of the cage. Um, the
level of noise, they need to be
contained in the cage. Um, and so if you
have any questions, um, Marcel
Stevenson, our new code enforcement
coordinator, um, would be more than
happy to help as he is very wellversed
in this topic, especially as of late.
Upcoming agenda items, we're going to
have a busy August. Um, we're beginning
with a study session at 3 o'clock. uh
with a more robust discussion on the
town hall site plan and alternatives uh
that will be discussed also later this
evening um as well as some other uh
subdivision grading permits um and uh
some project or this is a tenative just
for um giving you a preview for what we
have uh planned so far
and then we have our final screen with
the emergency repair resources um as we
get through the end of
Thank you.
>> Thank you,
city manager Brown. Thank you. Um, city
assistant city manager, no worries, dog.
You're still good.
Um, the next item is public comments on
items that are not on the agenda. Um,
city clerk, do we have any items that
are not on the agenda?
» Let's see. I was just going to give it a
moment and Zoom. Um, not seeing any
raised hands. Uh, no public comment.
Thank you.
>> Okay. So, no no public comment. Um, I
will now close public comment and we'll
move on to the announcement of conflicts
of interest from the council. Do any
council members have any conflicts of
interest on items that are on the agenda
that needs to be disclosed.
>> Council member Kwick, I apologize. I was
meaning to talk to you earlier today.
Item 11 on the agenda on consent, which
means you can remain in your seat and
just note it for the record that you're
recusing yourself, involves Strawberry
Hill. And I know when the uh contract
was originally approved, you did recuse
yourself. So, I would just think it's
prudent to probably continue that
practice for now.
>> Thank you.
>> And that's item 11. Okay. Any um no
conflict from the council?
Any would any of my colleagues like to
uh remove any items from the consent
calendar for further discussion?
>> Number seven, please.
» Number seven is removed for further
discussion. Any other items from the
consent calendar to be removed by the
council?
Does anyone from the Oh, I'm sorry. Um,
Vice Mayor Rexdale,
>> I just have a comment on item eight. Um,
but I don't need it to be removed.
>> We will remove it for now. part of the
comment. Um, let me see. No, actually,
we'll keep it if you'll just make the
comment and we'll approve that. But, um,
let me ask if we have anyone from the
public who wishes to remove any items
from the consent calendar.
>> Thank you. We'll give it a moment on
Zoom.
I'm not seeing any raised hands. Thank
you.
>> And, Madame Mayor, could we remove
number 11 since I'll have to recuse
myself for that, please? Okay.
>> Actually, uh, Council Member Kurlic, if
we keep it on consent, you could stay in
your seat and then when you approve the
consent calendar, you'll just vote yes
on the consent except for your recusing
from item 11.
>> Got it. Thank you.
>> Um, no one from the public, no public
comment to remove any items. Okay. in
which case um I will move forward to um
remove item seven and um we let's start
with a comment on item eight so we could
include it.
>> Uh yes, thank you. I just wanted to
comment item number eight is a letter
authorizing a letter for the mayor to
sign in support of a since watered down
law but it's something um for our um uh
town to respond to public records act
requests. Um, and I just wanted to get
in everyone's um, uh, head that this is
something that I think should be on our
legislative platform the next time it
comes up. Uh, I'd like it to be um,
proposed in there as well to um, you
know, a broader protection for the work
that our um, staff has to do to respond
to these requests. And my understanding
on that item is that it's making a
switch to um business days as opposed to
five days. Correct. Five business days.
Is that the specific um distinction?
>> Business days instead of calendar days
>> instead of calendar days.
>> Correct. Okay. So, you're asking that we
should think about potentially adding it
to uh
>> I think I think we should should talk
about when we get to the legislative
platform just have something in there
that um a little broader just while
recognizing the importance of the first
amendment and the openness of government
to whatever can be done that the city
clerk association supports we should
support because it is a lot of work for
um all towns.
>> Okay. It does not change um item eight
just the comments for for the future.
Okay. Thank you.
>> Yes. Thank you. In which case we will
proceed with um we'll get a motion to
approve items 1 2
3 4 5 6 8 9 10
11 12 13 and remove item seven.
Do we have a second for the motion?
Second.
>> Okay. Thanks. Okay. Motion by Council
Member Schwang, seconded by Council
Member Adams. And um city clerk, may we
have the votes, please?
>> Thank you. Adams,
>> yes. Schwang Crowig,
>> yes. But I recuse myself for item number
11.
>> Thank you. Ragsdale,
>> yes.
>> Cole,
>> yes.
>> Thank you.
>> The consent calendar is approved. 50.
Um, with the recusal of council member
Crowley of for item 11. All right, we'll
go back to item seven that was removed
by council member Krik. Would you like
to start your comments?
>> Yes. Um, so this is the city council
handbook and thank you so much to Lisa
and Mandy for all their hard work on it.
And I know us and I know that we could
worry each one of these things to death.
So I'll try and just make this really
brief and clean. So, um, and I emailed,
uh, Mandy earlier. So, on, um,
item 7.4B,
it's the process of, um, after public
comment and then it's the time for the
council members to express their
thoughts on the issue and engage in
discussion. Um, the first, it does say
that that, uh, the matters return to the
city council for deliberation. I suggest
that that be a bullet point because the
first bullet point is the council
members can ask questions and you sort
of overlook the discussion part. Does
that make sense? Um that's a suggestion.
>> I'm sorry. Item four.
>> Could you repeat that? I'm so sorry.
>> 7.4B.
So 7.4.
So this is when the items come back to
the council for discussion and
deliberation. I think it's a really
important point that we don't deliberate
or opine or share our thoughts until
after public comment. Um, just look
because the bullet point is that we can
ask questions. It seems to me as
important a bullet point as asking
questions is that now is the time for us
to share our thoughts or deliberate.
Does that make sense?
>> Yes. Are you suggesting an amendment um
to ask questions and deliberation?
>> Yeah. that we make a bullet point of the
deliberation sharing thoughts. It's time
for uh what does it say? Let me see. Um
>> it says city council deliberation
>> matters return to the city council for
deliberation. I think that should be a
bullet point and then they can ask
questions like that the process is that
we deliberate and ask questions. We
don't just ask questions. I know that's
the pickiest of all of my suggestions.
So typically we start with questions for
clarification and then we do
deliberation. So should we just flip
that from A to B?
>> We have the question part before public
comment and now this is back to the
council for deliberation. So it's to me
it's more important that this is the
deliberation part of the process. It's
not actually the we can ask questions
again but this is when we deliberate.
This is when we can share our thoughts
and opinions and deliberate. Um, it is
also appropriate to ask more questions
when he comes back the second time. Is
that correct, city attorney?
» Are you following our thinking up here?
>> Yeah, mayor. I'm just wondering if um
because we do have the questions portion
at 7.2B.
Um, and then under 7.4, maybe 7.4B
could say the city council may ask
further questions.
that.
>> Yep. That would be great.
>> Thanks for your editing. Appreciate
that.
>> No, le I can always pass this ball to
Leslie. She'll like it.
>> So, should we also switch to item B to
item A? In other words, first the city
council may ask further question and the
next bullet point should be the city
council may then deliberate. Okay. Yes.
Um, council member Adams. So, wouldn't
it be easier to just combine asking
questions and deliberate because you
don't know if you're going to be asking
a question or it's part of the
deliberation. So, if we put it in one
bullet point, then that's what we're
doing. We're uh the matter is returned
to the city council for further
questions and deliberation
and it's just done.
>> Does that amendment and edit work for
you? Um
>> yeah that's I just you know if you're a
new council member you're looking it
sort of looks like oh now I answer more
I asked more questions I just want to
make sure that what we are communicating
to new council members is the process is
presentation questions public comment
sharing thoughts and opinions that
that's the
>> and the sharing of thoughts and opinions
include more questions
>> exactly more questions of course
>> okay um I support um council member
Adams um minor amendment to That does is
that do we have um is do we have
unanimous support from the council to
make that edit that amendment
>> just through the mayor to get
clarification. So that would be
combining A and B. Yes.
>> Which I'm happy with. I would add the
word further and and just make sure to
keep the word may. So
>> correct.
>> Yes. Thank you.
>> Um does is the staff following what
we're talking about over here?
>> Yeah. I think. Yes.
>> Okay. Okay. And then my next comment was
at 9.1.
The handbook states that the mayor
appoints to commissions, but I think our
process has been that the appointments
then go to the council for a
confirmation vote. And Mandy said that
this was correct. This could be
clarified in the initial sentence. So,
do you have a a recommendation for that,
Mandy? The clarification.
Um, we can just add that at the regular
meeting a council will the council will
affirm with a vote the selections from
the mayor. We I mean we can come back
with language unless you want us to word
smith it now. But I I understand the
intent of just clarifying that the full
council makes the the ultimate decision.
>> Thank you. the the mayor shall appoint
the uh members to various committees and
boards and the full council shall
approve that appointment. Correct? Is
that the intent of this conversation?
>> Yeah, I'll say as affirmed by the full
council at the regular meeting in
December or January. So, I'll move that
to the end of the sentence and we'll
make sure that it's clear that it's a
full council action.
>> Okay. So, that's just edited.
>> January January. January. Yeah.
>> All right. And uh 9.3 this is my next to
last. The so the appointment process for
the subcommittees seems to be a little
vague and I think that what we have been
doing is that the mayor or another
council member when we talk about
subcommittees proposes a member or
members to serve and then the council
either virt.
So it's just it's just vague. I just
thought we should clarify um
our appointment process for
subcommittees.
So perhaps just adding a sentence
indicating that it's approved by the
full council at a at a regular meeting
or at a council meeting.
>> Correct. Which we have done um right
making it.
>> Yes. To codify it.
>> Gotcha.
>> Um and then the final thing that I'm
just puzzled on and maybe Christopher
can clarify. So 11.3 says that we can
speak as an individual and we can write
a letter I guess or an email and send it
to the full council. It just makes it
sound as if any council member could
write a letter to the council expressing
their opinion on an issue that will come
before the council and that seems uh
antitheical to what you have tried to
drum into our little brains that we when
all possible not take a stand on an
issue. So, I just I mean, if I write to
everybody and say, "Hey, I just want you
to know that I'm really against gas
powered leaf blowers, then can I get up
here on the deis and vote?"
I just didn't understand that.
>> Yeah. No, it's a great question. Uh,
council member Kwick, in looking at it,
I think the way it reads is that
basically, yes, you as individual
council members, you've earned your
title as a council member at the ballot
box. Uh, you always have the right as an
individual to state your position or
opinion on something. Um, what this is
really getting at is that if the council
hasn't taken up the issue yet, but you
have a strong position on a certain
topic that yes, you can take a position
as long as you're making it clear to the
public that the council hasn't taken up
the issue, it's really my position, not
the council's position. But to your main
question, um, you are totally correct
that in the and it's only in the land
use context. So when due process kicks
in, and I teach this in ethics, due
process kicks in where there's a life,
liberty, or property interest.
Obviously, what's before you is not life
or liberty. It's property. And so, it's
land use decisions. And so, everyone who
owns property has a right to due
process, which basically means that they
have a right to uh impartial decision
makers up until the time that you've
heard all of the evidence and gathered
all of the information until that close
of the public hearing, then you could
take a position on a land use issue. So,
I think this language and we can make it
a little clearer that yes, you always
can take a position on an issue, but
when it's a land use issue, don't until
the close of the public hearing because
you you need to legally um because of
due process. But every other type of
issue, not land use related, you could
take positions on. I will say that some
council members hesitate even doing
that, but totally at your discretion
because they think if I haven't heard
from the public, should I really be
taking a position on the issue until
council takes it up and we hear, you
know, community members come and give
public comment. Um, but council members,
if it's a non-land use issue, can always
take individual positions,
>> I think. So, I tried to read this as
somebody who was just newly elected or,
you know, and so I think if that could
be clarified, well, that would help us
who are already elected too, I think.
Yeah, we can add something here that
just says yes, you're always allowed to
take an individual position. Make it
clear that you're not taking a position
of the council. Um but but exception
land use context, you're going to want
to avoid that until uh the actual public
hearing in the chambers. And I can we
can make that clear.
>> This is something that needs further
clarification. We also have Vice Mayor
Rexdale have some question.
>> Uh yes, I didn't read this as writing
letters to each other. I read this as
like a letter to the editor or a letter
in support of an assembly bill or
national bill where we are allowed to
represent ourselves.
>> That makes much more sense.
>> Yes. I didn't because Yeah. writing to
each other is a whole a whole another
thing. Yeah.
>> Yeah. and we wouldn't do
>> and and for further clarification, there
was an issue and still ongoing um in our
community and it did somewhat involve
some land use issue um where the um
board of supervisors were discussing
this. I spoke as a physician, not as a
council member or mayor and I made that
very clear in the record and that is
understood. You can as an individual
outside of your role as a council member
to opine on that. Correct.
>> Correct. Do you always uh maintain your
individual rights regardless of your
council member status? So yeah, if you
wanted to just use your professional
title can do that.
>> Okay, just for clarification. Okay, so
um maybe we can just tighten the
language here to be clear. We're not
recommending communication with each
other as council members, which we're
not allowed to do because of the Brown
Act.
>> And then we'll also add something in
here about due process as well. But yes,
to your point, yes, this is really about
speaking to the community, not to each
other.
>> Correct. Okay.
>> Yes. Um, council member Trunk. Um so uh
bringing back to 9.3 about the standing
subcommittees and ad hoc subcommittees
uh is it appropriate in this paragraph
to be able to add on to the time
timeline and the reason I ask is that
oftentimes when you have a subcommittees
or ad hoc um depends on the the type of
the meetings uh it can conceivably go on
for a couple months or two a six month
or so or maybe longer depends on the
type of a project and what I have seen
over the years is that um there's no
reporting back. So is there is there a a
way that we can incorporate in that and
to see what is appropriate to to have a
timely update of some sort to the full
council or to the public at the public
meetings?
In other words, is there a legal
requirement as to how often to report to
the full council?
>> Yeah, I'd say for subcommittees, there's
no legal requirement to report back, but
keep in mind, subcommittees don't have
any indep independent authority outside
of the council. So, you might need to
come back to the council to report back
and get some direction. Um, but if the
council wanted to include something here
that gave a timeline, a general timeline
as to when uh reporting back should
happen to the council, that would be at
the council's discretion. I would like
to hear um thoughts from uh my council,
vice mayor. Um yeah, I
>> I like the idea of uh just using maybe
um and we'll give periodic updates at um
to the rest of the council on public
meetings, something like that,
>> right? I mean, for all it takes is that
it could be just informing the public
and the rest of the council that they're
meeting, they're making progress,
they're giving the directions to the
staff, right? and then is going to come
back at certain times for updates or
reports. But I think that that is going
to help us sort of frame it in some way.
Oftentimes it depends on the dynamic or
it depends on the nature of the project
that it could take longer but it's also
good for the public and also for the
coun the remaining council to understand
that there are challenges or what not.
So it just in that vein that I think
that it would be really uh for clarity
everyone is on the same page about the
timeline.
>> So do you have any specific
recommendations or amendment to that
paragraph? Should we put a time once a
year update or just keep it
>> I think Leslie put it
>> just periodic updates. Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> There's agreement on that. So that's
just an editing issue. It's not a real
amendment. It's just clarification of
what's written down. Correct.
>> Okay.
>> I have go ahead
>> as to not handcuff the council there
too. The the periodic updates could be
put in there and at the formation of the
committee you could also give direction
as to what the timelines might be
because it might be different for
different committees depending on what
type of project it is. And you could
also state at that time too that that
update may come from staff, it may come
from a consultant or it may come from
the subcommittee itself just to give
yourself some leeway.
I think that the periodic updates
covers it.
>> Okay. Um yes. Um Council Member Adams,
you have
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. This was also
an item that I wanted to pull. I have
three issues I'd like to ask my
colleagues to address. Uh the first one
is uh a bugaboo of mine. And I have a
wonderful book called using common
English in legal
documents and I'm happy to share it with
anyone. Uh if you look at 8.3
voice votes
uh in a roll call vote uh if a roll call
vote is not requested or required votes
shall be by vo voice a eyes naz or
abstain. And we have then over in 8.9
where we talk about the answer is yes. I
would like us to force sooth to wit uh
change to modern English and just say
yes, no or abstain. It's a picky point.
But the more we are using common
language, the more we're inviting our
constituents to believe that we want to
communicate with them uh in ways that
they communicate with one another. So
I'd like you to consider just changing
that at point 8.3.
>> Changing 8.3 to yes, no, or abstain.
>> Yes.
>> What if we did I slash yes, nayno, or
abstain? Just so if somebody does say I
or nay, they're not out of compliance.
>> I don't think they'd be out of
compliance, but I think we don't want to
encourage eyes's and nays. So I say nay
to that. That's just my joke for the
moment, but that's just my opinion. Um I support that opinion. I think it's uh
recommendation to move to modern
English. Sounds makes sense.
>> Yes. Um, Vice Mayor Rex,
>> I'm I'm fine either way, but I would be
concerned because we all do so many
meetings that as long as Christopher
says it's okay that if someone says I
that counts as yes, um then I'm okay
with changing it. But I just think
sometimes we we fall back into um uh
what what we've been doing for years or
what we do in other in other meetings
because sometimes you're in another
meeting, you don't want to be the only
person saying yes when everyone else
says I. So, um, just making sure that if
we do that change, which I'm in favor
of, if someone says I or nay, that
legally counts as yes or no.
>> Yeah, I would take the position we all
know what yes and no means. And yes, if
somebody challenged us because somebody
said I versus nay, uh, I will take that
challenge and argue that to a judge.
>> Uh, thank you for understanding that.
>> Well, these Yeah,
>> I think the intent I'm sorry, go ahead.
Have you had more comments?
>> Yes. The next one is 8.1 right of floor.
And this has been confusing as a new
person. I have uh gotten my copy of
Robert's rules of order and I have
searched for through the mayor. I have
had uh former mayors, not the one I'm
married to, tell me there is no through
the mayor. I've been in other meetings
where people are making their name plate
stand up to gain recognition. I would
like for us to think about our process.
What do we really want to do uh in terms
of it's clear any council member
desiring to speak shall first be
recognized by the mayor and shall with
the exception of responding to public
comments confine any remarks to the
subject under consideration. That's
perfect. It's just I don't know how we
really want to do it. Do we want to say
through the mayor every time we want
your attention? Um my personal
experience is yes because often I don't
always hear my colleagues as sitting at
the very extreme of the deis and by
hearing the voice you could say may I
speak
>> um but I think recognizing using a
verbal communication is always very
helpful. I often will see um the vice
mayor to my left or my colleague to my
right, council member Crowley, if they
make a notation to me that they have a
comment or a question, but I don't
always see at the very far end. And
especially if I'm not wearing my
glasses, I really don't see them. So, I
don't want to make it look like I'm
ignoring you trying to make a comments.
So, I think having a procedure that's
just rather formal through the mayor is
verbal. It's um it can be heard. It
makes me rearrange the order of who goes
next. I do think there should be a
formal verbal communication that is
consistent. Um because any other signal
may be missed and be deemed as me or any
mayor ignoring your efforts to speak.
>> As long as we have a formal way of doing
it that we all agree on, I'm fine with
it.
>> The important thing is just to be
recognized by the mayor or the chair so
not everybody's talking like I just did.
No, no.
>> Um, so I don't
>> There's one more.
>> Okay. Yes, absolutely.
>> As a new council member, there's
something that uh wasn't intuitive, but
seems really clear to me that I think
should be included in some way in the
handbook, and that is a
uh calendarization of the seasons of the
things that we do things. For example,
coming new to the council, I didn't know
what months we do the goals. I didn't
know what months the budget is reviewed
for the first time. I didn't know uh
when we give recognition to our
volunteers. I didn't know. It's sort of
like Christmas and Easter things that
happen every year. I would just like to
have those as a preview of when you're
prepared for the things that happen
every year. And it may not be that it
goes in the handbook, but I think it
needs to be something that's distributed
about how the council functions.
» Um that thank you for those comments. Um
that sounds like something perhaps our
staff could help us like a side um guide
in terms of the schedule or the calendar
for the year. Understanding
certain emergencies may change the
schedule but at least on a yearly basis
just distributing that to the entire
council so we're all on the same page in
terms of the calendar.
>> Yeah. Whether that be in the handbook or
some type of handout that we do that
might be something we look at even each
year just to keep it on track. But there
are yearly things that we do on a pretty
regular schedule that we could include.
>> Yeah. Thanks. And and Vice Mayor Ragdale
has a comment. Yes.
>> Um I I love that idea because I remember
being a little caught off guard that
certain things that happened and I had
been watching the meetings um for years.
So um and also maybe something that we
could hand to candidates. So um they
have that in mind as well, especially
like February goal setting because um
that's not on a normal council day
sometimes. Um and then um and the budget
that's sometimes different but uh it's
very early day so that would be helpful
to candidates I would think.
>> Yes. Um council I agree that that would
be a good one sheet addendum to this uh
handbook.
>> Um any additional Yes.
>> No. Thank you very much.
>> Yes. And um so thank you very much
council member Krollic for taking this
item out. Obviously, we had a lot of
tweaking to do and clarification. It was
um well selected item to remove from the
consent calendar and we'll um
should we just bring this back after all
those modifications
next month rather than voting on these
are technical and
>> I think I think we have what we need. I
mean, if council's comfortable with it,
we have what we need for the specific
adjustments to the sections that we
discussed. Um, and in terms of the
calendar, um, City Manager Davis, if
you're if you're okay with it, and if
council's okay with it, I think we can
put something together that's a separate
calendar. We have something started that we can circulate. Okay. Separate
document. That way, there's a little bit
of flexibility there for it to just be
its own separate document.
>> Okay. And that will be outside of the
handbook, obviously. Okay. In which
case, um, do we have a motion then to,
um, approve item seven, resolution
approving the town of Hillsboro City
Council handbook?
>> So moved as amended.
>> Do we have a second to the motion?
>> Second.
>> Could we please take a roll call?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. Adams,
>> yes. Schwang,
>> yes.
>> Kurig,
>> yes.
>> Ragdale,
>> yes. call.
>> Yes. Item seven is approved. 5-0.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. Um
I believe that covers everything on this
on the consent calendar. We will now
move to the next item on the agenda
which is a public hearing resolution
authorizing placement of sewer service
and storm drainage charges, special tax,
police protection and fire protection
and prevention and the flat charge
component of the garbage collection fee
for fiscal year 2026 2027 county tax
role and that will be presented by our
assistant finance director Rich
Santiago.
>> Thank you. Uh good evening, Mayor Cole
and council. Yes, as Mayor Cole
mentioned, uh tonight we're bringing
forward the resolution authorizing the
placement of the special charges, taxes,
and fees on the county tax role for
fiscal year 2627.
And as she mentioned, those are the
sewer service and storm drain charges,
the special tax for police and fire
prevention and protection, and then the
flat garbage collection fee.
And these are the charges, taxes, and
fees uh for the upcoming year. As
approved in the May council meeting, uh
the annual residential sewer service
charge will be $4,386.88.
As you recall, this was recently
approved through the 218 process. So,
this is year one of the 5-year rate
series. Uh the annual storm drain charge
is $7.34.
It's been the same since um the initial
implementation in 1994 assessing 4,13
parcels. The uh annual safety tax that's
also approved on annual resolution um
that was when in May it's estimated to
about 2.25
million towards partial funding of
public safety operations. And then
finally the flat garbage collection fee
shows an increase. Again, there was a
2025 rate study and that annual amount
is $42.24.
And so our recommendation is to open the
public hearing, receive comments, close
the public hearing, and then adopt the
resolution authorizing the placement of
sewer service and storm drain charges,
special tax for police protection and
prevention and protection,
and the flat charge component of the
garbage collection fee for 2627 to put
on the county tax role and authorize the
county tax collector to collect such
charges. And with that, I'll take any
questions you have.
Thank you, Mr. Santgo. Um,
do we um have any questions from the
council with regards to um the
presentation? Any clarifying questions?
I would like to open public comments.
Seeing none from the council, any um
public comments on this item?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I have no I'll
give well actually I'll give it a moment
and I don't see any raised hands on
Zoom. Thank you.
>> Bring it back to the council. Any
additional questions or discussion?
» No further discussion on this item.
Is there a motion to adopt the
resolution authorizing placement of
sewer service and storm drain charges,
special tax for police protection and
fire protection and prevention and the
flat charge component of the garbage
collection fee on fiscal year 2627
county tax role?
>> So move.
>> Do we have a second?
>> Second.
>> Um moved by council member Trang,
seconded by council member Kwick. Um may
we have a roll call, please? Thank you.
Adams,
>> yes.
>> Schwang,
>> yes.
>> Crow,
>> yes.
>> Braggsdale,
>> yes.
>> Cole,
>> yes. The motion passes 5. Thank you, Mr.
Sant.
>> Next item.
15.
Yes. 16. Sorry.
15. Yes. The next item is introduction
of an ordinance amending section
17.32.030
of the Hillsboro Municipal Code to
reduce the minimum dwelling size
requirements and eliminate the
recordation requirements for limited
remaining floor area and that will be
presented by L Roy. Hello Ree.
>> Good evening madame mayor, fellow
council.
Um this is a pretty um
minor change to a small section of our
zoning ordinance. Uh previously I've
spoken to the council about the concept
of eliminating the minimum dwelling size
from our municipal code for consistency
with one of our programs that was
outlined in our certified housing
element. The proposal before you tonight
includes um two changes to this
ordinance. The first is to reduce that
minimum dwelling size um for the primary
single family dwelling from 2500 square
ft to a,000 square ft. And the second
change is to eliminate the requirement
to record a notice when 500 square feet
or less um of available floor area
remains. Uh the proposed amendments
modernize
uh the section 1732030
while still preserving the town's
established floor area regulations. It
still implements um the town's housing
element commitments while reducing that
size and not entirely eliminating it.
There are three components to this
section of the municipal code. The third
section we propose no change. Um for
that we propose to maintain the existing
floor area ratio standards
for the minimum dwelling size. The
current clo code requires a minimum of
2500 square ft for a primary single
family dwelling. And as I mentioned as
part of our housing element, we
committed to eliminating this. Um, in
previous discussions with the council,
we talked about perhaps rather than
eliminating it, setting a reasonable
minimum that reduces um the 2500 square
feet requirement to something that is
more consistent with what HCD would like
to see. So the 1,00 square foot
threshold is a wellestablished threshold
in California housing law. The state law
requires that we ministerial
ministerially approve detached ADUs up
to a thousand square feet. And so staff
determined that using that same
threshold for a primary dwelling was um
a logical objective and easily
understandable standard while
eliminating that 2500 square foot
requirement that was identified as a
constraint in our housing element.
for the recording um requirement. I
spoke to the council about this I think
two months ago as it relates to our ADU
recording requirement. This is similar
but different. Um our code currently
requires that property owners record a
deed restriction when 500 square I'm not
a deed restriction record a document
when 500 square feet or less remains for
their allowable floor area. The notice
was intended to provide information
regarding a property's development
potential. Um but since this requirement
was added to our municipal code, so many
changes have come through state law and
um staff feels pretty strongly that
having this recorded notice which is
static once it's recorded it's there um
creates a situation that isn't dynamic
like the changes to state law are. And
because state law is changing so
frequently, you know, related to ADUs
and SB9 and other housing legislation,
that 500 square feet becomes a bit
arbitrary. Um, and those notices can
become outdated really quickly and can
be confusing for property owners. Um,
meanwhile, the town reviews a property's
allowable F anytime an applicant makes a
request to staff or anytime an architect
is exploring a potential project. So, we
feel that that same information can be
provided in a much more dynamic way by
working with staff um and communicating
about the applicable standards and state
laws that are in place at that time
rather than an applicant being confused
by a recording document that was um made
up at a specific point in time. Um so
the proposed ordinance eliminates that
recordreditdation requirement which
would reduce the administrative burden
and also the burden on the applicant um
but still entirely maintains the town's
full authority to review and enforce the
applicable zoning standards. And we do
feel strongly that it it makes a more
user friendly process for a potential
property owner or for a property owner
to understand the development potential.
Um, as I mentioned, there are no changes
proposed to the town's F standards. The
ordinance retains the existing maximum F
calculation, which is 25%
for the first acre and 15% of any not
let net lot area over the first acre.
Um, and I have on the right hand side
just an example of the red line. As I
said, there are three components. We're
proposing to modify one, eliminate one,
and keep the third the same.
So staff's recommendation is to
introduce and wave further reading of
the ordinance entitled an ordinance of
the city council of the town of
Hillsboro amending section 1732030
of the m Hillsborough municipal code
relating to minimum dwelling size floor
area and notice of limited remaining
floor area and finding the action to be
exempt from squa.
>> Thank you uh Miss Ree for your
presentation. Do we have any questions
from the council?
Um, council member Schwang.
>> Um, thank you, Liz. I, you know, I
really don't have any questions other
than I really appreciate that despite of
the or
with the state laws keep changing that
we are able to make some lend some
clarity to this and then be able to
streamline this so that it's helpful for
our applicants and so forth. So, thank
you.
>> Council member Adams has questions. Yes.
I just have a question about uh the
difference between ADUs and primary
residents. Could someone on a lot I
believe you can have three ADUs I think
uh and a primary residence could a lot
be uh populated by 4,000
foot dwellings
and nothing bigger than that? No. Um
the state law does allow in some
scenarios up to three types of accessory
units. You're allowed to have um a
converted attached, a detached, and then
in some cases a JADU. Um there are
limitations for attached ADUs. Uh they
cannot be more than 50% of the square
footage of the primary dwelling,
>> right? Um so there are are other
limitations in in place
>> but haven't we redefined primary
dwelling through this minimum was 2500 now the minimum is
1,000
correct so
um I don't know if um Mr. Diaz wants to
speak to this that's something certainly
we could we haven't redefined what a
primary dwelling is. We're only reducing
the minimum size required for a primary
dwelling. So if you had a primary
dwelling that you know somebody wanted
to construct a thousand square foot
primary dwelling um then you would be
limited in um what you could have for an
ADU. It couldn't be more than 50% of
that which I think would qualify as a
JADU. So I we would have to you know do
a case study I think but I think it
would sort of effectively make a
property owner choose between a JADU and
an ADU that was attached.
>> Could you go back three slides um or
maybe two slides where you were showing
Yes. This one
um
the first paragraph. Thanks for those
questions. I also had questions with for
clarification.
Net lot area you are speaking
specifically in terms of slow page
right? How steep? What what exactly does
that mean?
>> No. So the net lot area so this is
related to the size of the lot. So you
have um the size of the lot which our standard minimum lot size is half of
an acre. Um and so this doesn't take
into account any slope. It's nearly
merely the square footage of the lot. So
if you have a a lot that's under one
acre your maximum allowable F your floor
area ratio is 25%.
If your property is larger than an acre,
then your floor area ratio, which is the
square footage of structures, and it
applies to so if you have a twostory
structure, that square footage counts
for each floor. So this has to do this
has to do with the limitation for how
large your structure can be. It's not
related to the slope.
So if it's more than an acre, you said
it's it's 15%
of the remaining. Let's say you have two
acres.
>> Are you stating does this state that
only 15% of the remaining one acre can
be developed?
>> No, it's the calculation that allows you
to figure out the square footage that
your home can be. So if your property is
2 acres, then you can have 25% for the
first acre and then 15% for the second
acre. So um for example, let's see, um
one acre is 43,560
square ft. So if you're allowed to
develop 25% of that, that would be a
10,000 square foot home, just over
10,000 square feet. And then if you had
an additional acre, you could only have
15% of the floor area for that second
acre. So that would be an additional
6,500 square feet. So it has to do with
just the square footage of the structure
that you're allowed to build. So, the
previous law that states if you are
going to build a second home, which is a
state law,
um I believe what we had in town was
that you could not it have to be a
minimum of half the square footage of
the primary dwelling. So, that nullifies
all of that is what she's stating based
on this presentation.
>> Are you talking about for an ADU?
>> Well, a second home. You could develop a
second home without subdividing the lot.
Oh, like a an SB92 unit project.
>> Correct. And there was at least in our
own internal ordinances, it says you
have to um the second home can be um in
a minimum half the square footage as the
primary dwelling. Let's assume your
primary dwelling is 8,000 square feet.
Your second home can be 4,000 square
feet at a minimum. I mean, that's where
it starts. Based on the recent state
law, it sounds like those state laws
have been superseded by what just
happened. Are you now stating that you
could just put a second home that's a
thousand square feet? Does that
eliminate that previous requirement?
>> This would have no effect on what is
allowed under SP9 or subsequently S9.
Okay. Um, and I would have to look more
into what the specifics of SB450 are.
Um, but
um,
yeah, I I I know the state laws are
constantly moving. It's a moving target.
Maybe we can do an update on that
sometime.
>> Absolutely. Yes.
>> Sometime in the next six months or so
because it's it would be good to update
us because residents sometimes ask us as
if we know, you know, so it's kind of
good to know. um what new laws from a
legislative standpoint are sort of
affecting the changes we have in in our
ordinances and how that impacts
residents when they remodel or choose to
build a build a home. Council member
Crowley have a question.
>> I have another hypothetical for you.
>> So our standard minimum lot size is
still one half acre,
>> correct? But under SB9, could someone
divide their halfacre and and
potentially sell a 1,000 square foot
home? Now,
>> yes, under SB9,
uh, somebody could subdivide a lot that
was half an acre. There are lots of
requirements that have to be met in
order to move forward with an SP9 lot
split. Um, but yes,
>> well, it was my understanding if you if
you you couldn't have both. You could
subdivide your lot, but you still have
to abide by the local ordinance for
minimum lot size.
Not
>> not under SP9. So, under SP9, you are
allowed to divide a lot as long as each
of the resulting lots are at least 1,200
square feet. Um, so if somebody had a
lot that was uh half an acre, they could
certainly do an SP9 lot split. There's a
new requirement that came, I think it
was under SB450,
that in addition to the new lots or the
resulting lots being at least 1,200
square feet, it has to be at least a
60/40 split. So if you had half an acre,
then each of those lots would have to be
close to a quarter of an acre. So that
was a a change that was positive um for
Hillsboro in terms of the you know if
you have a 2acre parcel and you want to
do an SB9 lot split it can't be smaller
than 40% of the existing
>> 40% of the existing okay as you can see
we we still there's so many issues and
questions maybe this would be something
that would be worth doing a study
session
>> yes happy to come back with more
information about SB9 and those related
development standards
>> um I agree
>> I just wanted to ask if Christopher had
anything to add to my question because
it was clearly I was thinking of a
developer who wasn't planning on living
in the home but was planning on making
something of a little village.
>> Uh
>> no, thank you for the question. I I
think Liz was tracking it in terms of
the size. So the primary dwelling unit
has to be everything falls from there.
So in other words, the ADUs don't get
larger than that. But let us come back
and really look at kind of the world of
land use. Obviously, the California
state legislature is constantly evolving
and so let us look at all this and I
think we can do some sort of uh overview
of kind of maybe examples of what land
use would look like in Hillsboro with
the current rules in place. We're happy
to do that and bring Todd Leman in for
that.
>> Yes. And to to ease your mind, the only
person who has reached out with interest
about the minimum lot size is a longtime
resident who just wants to build a
smaller home. Um, so there is there is
interest from a resident in having a a
home that's less than 2500 square feet
for purely um
personal reasons.
>> Okay. Um I I believe we now go to public
comment on this and bring it back. I
know we've had a lot of questions and
discussion. Do we have any public
comments on this?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any
speaker cards. I'll give it a moment on
Zoom in case anybody would like to
provide comments on this item.
And I'm not seeing any. Thank you.
>> Okay, bringing it back to council. Any
additional questions at this time?
Okay. Do we have a motion to introduce
and wave further reading of the
ordinance entitled an ordinance of the
city council of the town of Hillsboro
amending section 17.32.030
of the Hillsboro municipal code relating
to minimum dwelling size floor area
ratio and notice of limited remaining
floor area and finding the action to be
exempt from California SQA.
So moved. Do we have a second?
>> A second.
Could we please have the vote?
>> Thank you. Adams,
>> yes.
>> Schwang,
>> yes.
>> Kurich,
>> yes.
>> Ragdale,
>> yes.
>> Cole,
>> yes.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. 650. Thank you. Thank you, Liz.
>> I have one additional comment. I I just
did some back of the envelope math and
it looks like if somebody did divide a
half acre and just 40% of the half acre,
the minimum would still be a little over
2,000 square feet. So there's not much
incentive for someone to just build
a,000 square foot home and sell the
Yeah, the land cost a lot of money also.
Anyways, um items moving on to item 16
for discussion. long-term financial
funding updates and that will be
presented by assistant city manager
Mandy Brown.
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole.
All right, Mayor Cole and Council, just
be giving a highlevel update of where we
are in this project. Obviously, we have
finance director Jan Cook here as well
if there are any specific finance
questions.
Um, but just wanted to give an overview.
So we'll talk a little bit about the
revenue generations needs uh that was
established from the initial analysis
and reviewing the alternatives. So the
original recommendations that were um
authorized by the council for staff to
uh proceed with and then some additional
options for consideration.
So, back in November, the presentation
on the long-term financial funding
analysis was presented and some revenue
needs were identified of $3 million to
cover the operational budget gap, the $1
million for the general fund operational
gap, and then $2 million to safeguard
against the loss of property tax DLF,
um, and increasing public safety costs,
um, especially for fire service. There
was also a need for $2 million for
capital projects um upcoming for the
town um related to some housing as well
as uh public public building
improvements.
So a status of where we are. So since
those recommendations uh were adopted uh
obviously we've completed the building
and planning department for cost
recovery and that is an estimated just
under $2 million. And so we're we'll be
tracking that obviously and reporting to
council on how how those in those those
increased fees um are being realized
financially.
Um there was an a small increase to CCFD
to cover the additional finance
services. Um so that's denoted here. Uh
and then looking at the agreement with
CCFD for cost sharing. This is underway.
So CCFD has a consultant um on board and
I believe they're expecting to have some
preliminary results in the fall. Um but
we'll continue um getting updates from
them. I know they were doing some
stakeholder interviews this week for
that project.
Uh we also uh uh worked with a
consultant to do some public opinion
research for a potential parcel tax
measure for this ballot. Um it it came
back that it was not feasible for us to
uh release that this year. And we're not
alone. Uh quite a few cities in San
Monteo County were looking at a parcel
tax or some sort of revenue measure and
the vast majority of them are not
proceeding. The ones that are going
forward um are usually for a hotel tax
or a sales tax. Um and even then some of
those are are borderline. Um there
aren't really any parcel tax. Uh there
are a couple transfer tax charter city
measures going through uh but those are
really in cities that are in much worse
financial shape than Hillsboro is and uh
it's sort of a do or die moment. So uh
what we were told by the consultant is
that this is not they've been doing a
lot more of those calls with um
disappointing news. Um so it's not
feasible for this year but it's
something that we can look to a future
year as an option for the town. And so
I'll outline that in um some additional
alternatives for the council to
consider.
So this is just doing a little bit of
the math um sort of figuring out uh the
remaining revenue needed. So the
building and planning fee study is a
little bit higher than what was
initially projected by the consultant.
Um we don't really have a source for
capital at this point. So there is still
an outstanding need of revenue of $3
million if we're using those initial
assumptions that were used in the
analysis.
Then there's a a table in the staff
report as well. So I'm just going to go
through and I've sort of put them in
buckets of what could support ongoing
operations and what would be more
supportive of one-time capital needs.
And so I'll walk through each of these
seven options.
The first is staffing controls. Um
obviously costs staffing is our most
expensive um cost to the town and so
just making sure that we are tightening
up or adding policies to look at each
vacant position. We have had some recent
vacancies in town and we are applying uh
this thought process to those vacant
positions to look at the classification,
look at the work that is needed. How
could we do this as effective as
possible as possible and be efficient
with our resources? Um, but this could be something as formal as um
a policy from the council or as informal
as a practice uh for staff to implement.
So, these are all going to be options
sort of for your consideration. And at
the end of the presentation, I'll sort
of ask um are there any of these items
that you want staff to prioritize? Are
there any of these options you do not
like and do not want on the menu of
options? And so we're just looking for
some general direction um at the
conclusion of the presentation.
The next one is additional fee studies.
So we looked at the building and
planning fees. The uh there are some
engineering fees um also on our fee
schedule that have not been updated in
some time. Uh there wouldn't have as
much kind of bang for their buck, but
they they are outdated. And so we could
look at what the cost to provide those
services are. Um grading permits,
vehicle impact fees. Those are just some
examples. And so we could commission a
similar result to see what we can do um
to get that cost recovery so that the
general fund is not subsidizing um or
being impacted by development related
services. So really just sort of
tightening the screws there.
Uh this was a recommendation that came
from the long-term financial funding uh
plan from the the consultant, but it
never made it to the final
recommendations.
Um so the town gets um some measure A
funds and the majority of them are used
for the actual capital costs uh rather
than the operations. And so what this
um slide with a lot of numbers on it,
essentially what it says is that there
is a way to increase the measure A
contributions to cover operations. So to
minimize the impact to the general fund,
but also not impact the actual streets
program because we do have reserves that
can only be spent on streets. Uh what it
is suggesting is keeping the same same
streets project budget. nothing changes,
but using those restricted reserves and
tracking that measure A funding,
re-evaluating it um to make sure that
it's not um reducing the program uh and
the in the project budget overall,
making sure that the funding sources are
secure. Um but we think that we have a
way uh to be able to um help the general
fund in this area uh without affecting
the project. And um I did we did run
this by a public works director and city
engineer Paul Willis and um he agreed
that as long as we continue to look at
those funding sources and look at the
bids that are coming in and the costs um
that this is something that that could
be feasible uh to help with the general
fund impacts.
Next one is um these are more for
capital needs. Um, so we talked about
the ballot for the revenue measure for
this November, but that doesn't mean
that we couldn't uh continue to look out
to a future year. So, doing a little bit
more research, looking at some other
options, especially with a longer
runway. um looking at education and
support for additional public safety
parcel tax, looking at the storm drain
fee again, seeing how the cities that
did place measures on the ballot this
November, how those fared um and what
they did and see what worked. And so um
just keeping this on as an option for
the future.
This actually came from our goal setting
session as well is to look at
establishing um a 501c3. So staff has
already begun this process. Um and we do
have a grants management policy to make
it as easy as possible to award grants.
Um I will say given the the economic
climate there are not as many options
out there um as there used to be. A lot
of them require a match um and many of
them are reimbursement rather than they
give you the money upfront which can be
challenging from a cash flow perspective
especially for large grants. So, it is
something that we monitor. Um, and
actually CPPG, our legislative
consultant, also has a grants manager uh
that keys us into some opportunities
that may be available. Uh, so we just
continue to really look for those
opportunities to to help uh aid capital
needs as well as general fund. Uh, we
can also look at partnership with other
entities on cost sharing or projects. Um
so just really thinking outside of the
box of how can we minimize the impact to
the town.
Uh this is another sort of study that
could be done and this depending on what
the results and the uh the will of the
council is. Uh we could look at our
capital uh program and use some criteria
to manage our resources by maybe
deferring some capital or capital or
revisiting the prioritizations that have
been assigned in prior studies. Um, and
this is this could could buy us a little
bit of time on some of the bigger ticket
items. However, it does could lead to
deferred maintenance, which would be
more emergency repairs. So, there is a
cost benefit, but we could look at that
with fresh eyes and sort of um look at
the risk uh that would be associated
with waiting uh versus what needs to be
done now and just have one comprehensive
look at it uh to see if there is there
are any savings that could be realized
by uh revamping our capital pro. uh
program. And then again, uh we did have
public works director and city engineer
Paul Willis look at this as an option.
Um and and he was uh happy to do it if
the council was looking at it, but just
wanted to keep it on as a as a menu
option for your for your consideration.
And the last one, this has actually come
as a recommendation from FAC um as uh as
well as I think the council has
mentioned it a couple times was to uh
look at the town-owned inventory of land
and properties and see if there is any
opportunity to dispose of any of those
assets. And so what this would what
staff would recommend is that we'd begin
with a presentation from uh Christopher
Diaz on the legal process for the
disposition of town owned land so we
understand what goes into that. And then
we could also um can prepare an
inventory of all the town owned land.
Some are slivers, some are larger
places, some have deed restrictions. And
so putting all of that together um in a
package with some agreed upon criteria
to rank the the opportunities
um for revenue generation um or for or
properties that may be more beneficial
to hang on to for a potential use that
some department uh may need. Uh so uh
staff could prepare that as well, but it
would begin with the sort of legal
discussion of of that framework and how
that would work for the disposition
itself.
And so a lot of these I've assigned some
sort of general dollar values, but we
really don't know until we get into
them. I was just sort of more a ballpark
small, medium, large. Um, with obviously
the the capital uh uh strategies being
the most potential. Um, but we don't
really know until we we get in there and start to do some of that analysis.
Um whereas the fee studies, the measure
A and maybe some of the staffing
controls could be an ongoing savings um
if we were to implement those as sort of
standing policies.
So I have this slide up here again just
for the discussion with all seven of
them um outlined, but I can go back to
any of the other slides with the detail
on them um during the discussion. Thank
you.
Mandy Brown, for the
presentation. Um, any questions from
this from the council?
» Yes, Council Member Adams.
>> Uh, thank you so much. That's really
great to see uh the whole thing laid
out. I would still question uh number
three uh because it isn't so much uh
that I'm worried about our
reauthorization or utilization of the
funds. It's that to qualify for them,
there are very specific
uh requirements that they go for roads
and not for maintenance. So I think I'd
like to hear from Paul directly about
that one. Uh because we've talked about
it a number of times. Uh so that I have
a little bit of a question about. Uh the
other is you're absolutely right on
number five. Uh most many grants require
that the work be done and then you're
reimbursed.
And that can be a real struggle with
cash flow uh particularly when the
project may need the money uh out of
sync with our ability to have it. So
other than that, it's always good to do
all these things. And I especially think
just having an assessment of our town
owned land. In the budget book, it says
we have 240 acres. A number of those are
just triangular slivers that would only
be uh interested. The only interested
parties I think would be the neighbors.
Uh but we have to be really careful as
you said about what our future needs
might be. So having just an assessment
sounds like a good idea to me.
>> Thank you. Um any additional questions
from the council? Council member Crowic.
No, no, this is Well, this is um
questions for clarifications or comments
um regarding what's been presented.
Um I think I I would like um public
comments just it's mostly um
clarifications or things we can come
back to. We're going to have an
opportunity to discuss.
>> Okay. Okay. Vice Mayor Rexdale.
>> Um, so just clarification on um, uh, I
guess it's with regard to bonds, the
general obligation bond versus the uh,
lease revenue bond. So, I I think I
understand it now, but I just want to
make sure that the general obligation
bond, you do need to go to the voters
and get the twothirds approval and then
they pay it back um through the parcel
tax and a lease revenue bond or any kind
of revenue bond. Um we don't need to
take it to the voters, but we're the
ones paying it back, so we need to have
make sure we have enough money to pay it
back. Is that correct?
looking at Jan. Um uh for a revenue
bond, yes, that is generally correct.
You're using your um uh sewer, water
fund, whatever it happens to be to
essentially pay back that loan. Doesn't
require going out to the voters. I don't
have experience with general obligation
bonds, but my understanding is yes, they
do have to go to the voters. Um I just
don't know what context you can actually
uh pull one, but yes, that your your
thoughts are generally correct.
>> Okay, great. Thank you.
>> Um Council Member Chuang,
>> thank you. Um thank you Mandy. I I have
a question regarding the capital uh
improvements as we are evaluating the
priorities of the capital improvements.
Um there's always the balance right? You
know uh if we're not moving forward with
the capital improvements the deferred
maintenance is going to come back to
bite us. Um so that's always a fine
line. Do do we have a um and we probably
do. Do we do we have a list of our um c
capital improvements for the next 10
years
and the priorities of it?
>> I know we have five. Um I'm sure Pul
Works has
10 years worth of projects.
» Oh, good evening, Madame Mayor, council
members. Great question. We do in our um
capital improvement program have a
five-year lookout in the uh fiscal year,
the recently adopted fiscal year um
budget book, but also um uh public works
uh keeps a um master plans for uh each
of our infrastructure divisions, water,
sewer, and uh storm drain. and uh that
helps us project and build our capital
improvement programs up to 30 years.
Now, of course, things will change and
we try to update every 10 years or as
appropriate. Um but those resources
which are or those plans are posted
online
and are a good resource to help us build
our capital improvement program. Thank
you.
>> Um I think I'm going to have you stay
for a second. My questions are along
those lines. Um, regarding our storm
drains, the estimate here, um, that's
projected from an operational
standpoint, um, is approximately a
million dollars a year. That's
operational. That's not replacing the
storm drains. So, is it? Because I know
we have a long-term storm drain program
with replacements.
» I'm sorry. I'm I'm not exactly.
>> Jan knows everything.
>> Um, great question. We spend about $1.2
million on Strong Drain, which is the
capital program. Um, but it is paid for
by the general fund because there's no
other source of funding and so it is
part of the operational budget challenge
that we have.
>> Okay. So when you say operational,
you're referring to the town's
operational budget, not the amount to
operate the storm drains maintenance
issue.
>> That's right.
>> Okay. It's mostly replacement. Um and I
have a few more questions for public
works. I believe with regards to measure
A, can we use some of that those
fundings? Um well funding I should say
clearly has to go towards street. But in
terms of the um reserve cannot be used
in what are the parameters what are the
legal parameters around that?
>> Sure. So I'm I mean I don't have the
full um breadth of what it can be used
for in front of me but in in general
measure A funding is uh the intent is
for infrastructure improvements to
support transportation.
Infrastructure improvement. Does that
include storm drains?
>> No. No.
>> Does not. Most of the staff to my left
shaking their head. It does not improve
include storm drains. Okay. So,
infrastructure improvement is roads
is yes. Streets. Streets and mainly
streets in the case of of the town. And
your question about can it be used for
operations? It can be used for
operations. A number of cities use it
almost solely for operations. We right
now uh fund $250,000
of that total measure A in the general
fund. So what this um evaluation would
do would be to just increase how much is
going toward the maintenance as compared
to the capital. But we've done an
analysis and based on the five-year
capital plan as well as the projections
from all the revenues, there appears to
be adequate money to do that to do both
as planned. So the five-year street CIP
plan as outlined by public works in
connection with transferring a larger
amount toward these maintenance
operations, street maintenance
operations. Those can both be
accomplished in today's dollars.
>> Okay. Um so just for clarification,
you're saying we can increase the amount
that from measure A towards operations
that we currently
move towards operations. Is that
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> And we would re-evaluate that every few
years. you may have heard there's there
could be changes coming from gas tax or
other items. So that's we just want to
keep track of all of those and make sure
that this um would still hold true. Um
so we would need to re-evaluate it every
couple of years.
>> Okay. Um yeah, I I have a a few more
clarifying questions on um item seven,
which is the town owned land. Could you
just briefly talk to us about the
surplus land act and how that will
impact the disposition of town owned
land?
>> Yeah. No, thank you for the question,
Mayor Cole. I think there's probably and
I'll state that there's probably two
limitations on the land that the town
does own. One would be any kind of deed
restrictions, which I know some exist on
some of the larger open space parcels,
and then separate and apart from that,
um, as you noted, state law kicks in,
which is the surplus land act. Um, this
was something that existed in state law
for, I want to say, decades. But in
2019, the state legislature started to
play with it a little bit more and made
it more of an affordable housing tool to
get more housing built in certain
communities. And so what it does require
is that yes, uh, when we want to sell a
parcel of property, um, and let's say we
just want to sell it on the open market,
uh, you'd list it for sale. You'd put
out almost like an RFQ of some sort to
indicate that we have the parcel
available. uh if an affordable housing
provider steps forward and says, "I
would like to buy that parcel," uh we
have a 90-day obligation to engage with
them in good faith to potentially sell
the parcel. Keep in mind, we don't have
to actually lower our our price. Uh fair
market value is allowable. We don't have
to change the zoning on the parcel and
so that would be at the request of the
affordable housing provider and the
council is fully within their discretion
to say no. Um but yes, that is the
general framework of the surplus land
act. we put something out for sale. If
an affordable housing provider steps
forward first, we have a 90-day
obligation to engage with them in good
faith. If we get somewhere and we do
sell the parcel, then that would be the
state legislaturator's kind of goal with
the surplus land act. If we don't, let's
say they can't meet fair market value or
they realize it's just too problematic
from a zoning perspective, then if they
go away, then if somebody else steps
forward, then we can sell the parcel to
that other party. But always if the
affordable housing provider steps
forward first, that's our first
obligation. Um there's other exceptions
within the the law. Obviously smaller
parcels, parcels provided to another
government agency. All of those are
exempt from the surplus land act. And
there's many many exemptions that I
won't go through now, but that's the
general framework of the act. It just
obligates us to engage in good faith
with an affordable housing provider.
>> Okay. Um just for further clarification
on that law, this parcel, this land
Let's just for discussion sake say the
town owns a 4 acre piece of property
that we may have been using for other
purposes but we no longer used it and
it's poor acres that's owned by the
town. If we want to sell that land to
get some revenue to offset some of these
issues we're discussing. We will have to
list that with the state for an
affordable housing developer first. they
have first bid in terms of the offer. Is
that correct?
>> Generally correct. Yes. Staff would
probably get uh an appraiser on board to
look at the price that we think is fair
for the parcel and then yes, we'd put
out word that the parcel is for sale. I
think one of the requirements is that list or our notice goes to state
HCD and so that yes, the larger
affordable housing groups can look at
the list and see what parcels are
available. And an affordable housing
developer is I looked at this this
morning as I was reading the section is
defined as
at least 15% of the units will have to
be below market rate
approximately.
>> I haven't looked at the definition in
some time but I I think that is tracking
with my recollection. Yes.
>> Okay. That that that's I I just wanted
to understand how that would factor into
the thinking around here. Um and and
also I have a few more clarifying
questions um regarding
the other options we're looking at which
is
with regards to the estimates for the 2
million um in terms of operational
budget gap says loss of VLF which is
I think we're all sort of in queue with
that it's all over the news and public
safety and CCFD. Is that mostly CCFD
cost we referring to or is that some
other
cost? It's mostly CCFD cost in general.
Okay, that's what I thought. Just wanted
some clarification on that. And um
Okay. Um Council Member Adams have
additional questions and then we'll ask
for public comment and then we'll come
back for discussion. Yes, Council Member
Adams.
>> Yeah. And I'm certainly no expert in
this, but my understanding was yes, we
can go ahead and use uh measure A for
maintenance and operation, but it may
jeopardize how much money we get in the
future on measure A if someone were to
look at it and say it doesn't qualify as
transportation. So, people have probably
done it. I just want to make sure that
what we're doing isn't taking money
uh out of our pocket ultimately. So
that's my only caution and I just think
we need to have real clarity and I I
think uh Paul's the person who knows it
better than anyone. So when I've talked
to him that's the impression I got. So I
may have been wrong but that's my
concern. Thanks.
>> Okay. We'll ask for public comments and
then we'll come back for some final disc
discussion.
>> Do we have anyone
>> on Zoom or in the chambers who would
like to speak to this issue?
>> I don't have any speaker cards in the
room. I'll give it a moment to see if
there's anyone who would like to raise
their hand on Zoom.
And I'm not seeing any raised hands.
Thank you.
>> Okay, we'll bring it back to the council
for further discussion. And I think I
will Could you Thank you. I was going to
ask you for that slide, Mandy. You're
awesome. Thanks. Um, I will start with
Council Member Crowley.
>> Oh, thank you. Um, this is an excellent
presentation. Really, I think it's so
positive and I I totally foresee us
having a very um successful cooperative
effort to get us where we need to go
financially. Um, so um, thank you for
looking at staffing controls. No one on
the council is suggesting that any
member of our staff is underworked. Um
it's just a fact that everybody works
really hard. But we have gone up in
staffing almost 20% in the past 10 years
and some of this is you know state
unfunded mandates but um but we have
gone up. So, I think it's it's really
great to look at every single vacancy
and um and see what we can do. One side
note, I seem to recall, and this is
something we could look into, that when
we went down to a half day on Friday, we
did used to be open till 5:30 on town
hall at town hall. Um which maybe we
give people a little more time to get
things done. Um the looking for public
money, especially for our police
station, I think is a a a great idea.
um the federal government, the state,
the county. Um reading the report on
that's now a few years old on the
incredible work that our police
department is doing in square feet that
is half the recommended uh amount of
square feet for the work that you do and
the size of our town and the size of our
force. So, so hopefully, I mean, we
really, really need to prioritize a new
police station and maybe we could get
some public money to help with that. Um,
maybe a modest bond in 2028. That could
be a revenue stream, but again, it's
going to take a lot of education. Um,
and uh and perhaps we could even put
together now a community task force. We
have some very effective community
members right here who understand the um
the finances of our town to just start
to educate community leaders on where we
are and what we need from the community.
Um
I actually the capital prioritization
study to me is the lowest priority for
us because I I I have a lot of faith in
the the expertise that we already have
on staff to prioritize our capital. But
that's just me. Um and the FAC would be
very very happy to see that town-owned
land is looked at. The FAC has been um
asking for this for for quite a long
time that we look at town owned land and
see if there's some way that we can
leverage that. But um you know we've got
this huge capital project to do here at
the town hall and I think it's just like
any other resident in town. We've got to
tighten our belts and save as much as we
can and look at every way that we can to
finance it and it's just kind of an all
hands on deck effort. But thank you very
much. I think this is very positive.
>> Thank you, Council Member Kwick. Um any
additional um discussion points,
comments from the council, Vice Mayor
Ragdale.
>> Um thank you for the presentation, Mandy
and um Natalie and Jan also for the
additional information. Um,
I think these are all great options. I
feel that with the staffing controls,
what you're already doing is is probably
going to be sufficient when when there's
an opening. Just double-checking,
talking to the department head, making
sure things could be rearranged. And um,
I think we we can trust your judgment on
that. I don't see a need to have a
consultant or anything come in. Um, so I
would just keep keep that up. Um, and
then I agree with Council Member Kle
with regard to number six, the capital
prioritization. I feel like we're doing
that all the time. You guys are doing
that all the time. I don't
I I never have doubts where we're where
we're putting our money. Um, and you
could get the deferred maintenance and uh emergency repair
costs, which are going to, as we know,
eat up whatever you've saved. Um, so I
would trust the continue doing what what
we're doing on that. And um, I love the
idea of a parcel tag, some kind of bond
um, in 2028 and a education effort. It's
complicated whether council can what
council can do and can't do. So, um, I
think getting residents involved in that
would be fantastic. And, um, and I agree
with the with the measure A. Um that one overwhelmed me a little bit to
understand. Um but whatever um can be
done would be great if it if it doesn't
sacrifice um potential future measure A
uh proceeds. Thank you.
>> Um seeing no additional comments from
the council. Oh, I'm sorry. Council
member um Trong, do you have uh
additional comments?
>> Just a short comments. Um I do
appreciate uh very much the staff
brought this uhformational items to us
um at any time that we have an
opportunity to discuss this and to set
um the priorities and we do see that the
priorities do flow depends on the
projects and depends on the timing of
the projects. Um I do think that the uh
the issues about addressing the general
obligations
um to the um to the safety the public
safety um is important. The storm drain
is important that do impact all our
other um improvements. So um to have a
serious conversation in that context is
really helpful. So thank you.
>> Okay, Vice Mayor Rexel,
>> sorry I forgot one. the additional fee
studies.
I'm very intrigued if we think that, you
know, we we we promise not to get too
excited. At least I promise not to get
too excited. That's going to be the
amount that for building and planning.
But, um, if you think it it could be
worth it. Um, our roads are expensive to
repair. So, if we're not charging enough
for the vehicle impact fee, then then we
should charge more. But, we don't want
to pay a consultant so much that we're
um eating up any savings. So um I trust
your judgment on that. Thank you.
>> Um so my my um discussion points um let
me start from the top with regards to
the operational budget um of the 1
million for storm drains. It it looks
like currently we're charging three
$7.34
cents I assume per parcel per year.
That's an annual fee. Is that correct?
Okay. And we barely we yet we're
spending a million a year to maintain
our storm drains. How far into this
replacement or maintenance are we? How
many more years do we have to go? I know
we've been doing this for many years
now. Do we have any specifics on how far
we into this process?
» Thank you, Natalie.
>> Sure. So the um as I was mentioning the
uh storm water master plan was last
updated in 2013 which helped us develop
this strategic plan of $1.2 million a
year. Um and we have progressed you know
I guess it's been what
>> 13 years. Um now having said that that's
it was a planning document and um things
have come up that weren't necessarily
specifically um uh built out in the uh
that specific plan and we are due for an
update but of course um due to budget
constraints we want to be mindful of
because it costs money to update a plan
as well. So um you know I we've we've
completed all the high priority p high
priority projects which I'm proud to
share. Um and the type A high priority
and then we're we've moved on to type B
priority and and then next would be C.
But um
>> so would you would you estimate we're
50% along or or more something?
>> Yeah, it's hard to uh put put a
percentage on it. Um
I would say that we've completed
it because because it's um it's a the
priorities are not proportionally
uh correlated to a percentage because
higher priority would it be
>> but but this project is going to be with
us for at least the next decade would be
your estimate
>> forever. forever. Okay. Yeah, that's
>> Yeah, that's clarity.
>> If I could add it, it is kind of in
perpetuity when you look at these types
of things. What and what we're very
proud of for public works is that those
level A priority ones that really,
>> you know, they they they're some of them
could be life safety if they're not
attended to that. We've actually cleared
all those out. And I think if we did
take a strategic look, uh, if we looked
at item six, and I and I agree, I think
we have capable staff here that can
prioritize their what they need to do.
But if we were to look at that, the goal
would be to keep those from coming back
into the A category. In other words, I
wouldn't want to put off something
that's in the B category for so much
time that it now becomes one of these
emergency type things. We'll always have
water main breaks and things that happen
once in a while like that. But as far as
the planned uh capital improvements, uh
as long as we can keep out of that level
A stuff, it gives us a little bit of
breathing room to really prioritize what
year that capital is going to get done.
Eventually, it's all going to get done.
And of course, as these types of things
go, it is this will be for the for the
length of the town existence, we'll be
paying.
>> Yeah. So, this is this is an ongoing
project. It's estimating 1.1 into the
budget from the general fund. So this is
clearly uh an area where we need to find
sustainable revenue currently. Are we
using any from the enterprise fund to
take care of this or it's all from the
general fund?
>> That's correct. We can't use um
>> enterprise funds. Yeah, it's just from
the general fund and so and we're not
asking residents to pay I mean $7
annually doesn't come close to covering
the 1.1 million year um expenses. So as
we think about this I mean that to me is
such a fixed number I given the and the
importance that it has in a town and
given the significance in terms of our
well-being and health etc. and you know
it's it's something we can't it has to
be done and it's indefinite.
The second um major gap is the 2 million
which most of it is from CCFD and PO and um you know some from VLF maybe 20
30% um and so I think understanding what
are the drivers of this $3 million
deficit is critical as you think about
how to fix it. Um, so I I would like um
us to really look at those three main
issues and see what kind of long-term
remedies we can have around those issues
that would be more sustaining because
the problem only gets worse as you
stated with the storm drains. If you
ignore it, it's more expensive and it
impacts well-being and welfare. So um um
on those on that sort of the overview of
the three major areas that I see are the
major drivers of the deficit or the gap.
Those will have to be um areas that I
think in terms of a fix have to address.
>> Right? We're we're we're in good shape
now, better shape than a lot of our our
neighbors are, but that 1.1 million, you
know, over a period of time is not is
not sustainable. So right be looking at
the priorities there and as you
mentioned our CCFD and our public safety
we've got a lot of stability now that
our labor contract is is completed. So
we have some good runway to know what
the cost will be moving forward. And of
course we have the study that's ongoing
now which we should be hearing about in
October or November to really talk get
down into the granular issues about cost
sharing between our partners.
>> Okay. Um, in terms of other fixes, um,
let me go through the areas that I well
I I I think we we probably going to run
into some issues with item seven even
because for a couple of reasons. One,
exploring feasibility of dispos
disposition of town owned land. Well, we
can't do that every year to fill in that
gap. So we may be able to do it once or
twice and once you've sold the top land
then you're down back to the same issue.
So it's not a it's not a structural fix.
It's it's an intermittent fix. So I'm
not sure something that's an
intermittent fix is going to get us out
of that issue long term. And of course
you then have to deal with the state
regarding um a developer um who who will
develop homes according to our
ordinances. in it's a very complex
issue. We do have a handful of land at
least six of them that are over one acre
that are developable. The question I
also had was can and Christopher you
could perhaps think about this can we
use land to generate revenues or it it
can only be sold if we can't lease it
ourselves. It has to be leased through a
third party. Is that correct?
>> Yeah. No, the the town could lease land
instead of selling it. That's an option.
But a lease that's more than I think 15
years is subject to the surplus land
act. So you'd have to look at what you
might want to do if you didn't want to
have to deal with the surplus land act.
It could be a lease that's 10 years just
yeah there's options.
>> So there's a potential the possibility
of leasing land and generating revenues
>> potentially. Yes. And I just wanted to
add on to that too. I mean, some of the land, as we know, is not
really feasible for development as much
as it might be purchasable by the
neighbors that are around it, which
would also reduce our maintenance cost
of those lands as well. Right. As soon
as we sell a piece of property, we're no
longer responsible for maintaining that.
So, there's kind of a double thing
there. But, you are right, land is one
of those things that they're they're not
making any more of it. So, whatever we
have now is what we have to the extent.
And I would say also because I had these
same questions on the surplus land. I
thank Mr. Diaz for educating on us. But
the, you know, the one big thing to keep
in mind is that the the zoning always
remains at your discretion. So it it's
not just being able to sell something at
a fair market price, but it's also
currently we're zoned for single family
home dwellings. So that a lot of times
uh that'll always be within the
discretion of the council, at least as
we sit here with the current laws.
>> Okay.
Um and and I agree with um so I mean I
think it's worth exploring that further.
I would really like to know if the town
can generate revenues from leasing the
land for other purposes that are within
state laws that that is something that
could be explored. Um I agree how we use
measure A those are guided by state laws
but uh certainly anything that we can do
to improve
um revenues back into the general fund
for measure A would be uh a top
priority.
I'm not a big fan of additional fees. Um
what I saw what I read in the in the
report was additional fees for public
works related issue. I I'm reading that
and as a resident I'm like, well, isn't
that what the property taxes? I feel
like I've already paid for it. I And I
just have some clarifying questions
around that area of um the additional
fees, not building and planning I
thought was quite appropriate because it
is a development and it has an impact on
the current infrastructure. But the
additional fees that we discussed and I
reviewed a lot of them centered around
public works. But maybe I misunderstood
that and that can be clarified
>> on the on the public works thing. And
it's a great point. The these are are
development fees as well. So these would
be in the areas of engineering
associated with development.
>> Okay.
>> So here again it it's not a generic fee
that's spread out amongst everybody
that's out here. It's just the people
that'll be utilizing the services.
They're already paying for those. What
we may need to do similar to what we did
with building and planning is make sure
we're getting cost recovery to the full
effect.
>> Okay. So it's a development impact.
>> It's development. Yeah. All those that
we look at would be related to
development. So they're getting a
service for a specific service they're
or getting a service for a specific
request somebody is making.
>> Okay. And with regards to um the bond
measure, I I I just agree. I think the
timing is is all off. No one people
don't have money and they don't want you
to ask them about money right now. So um
it's it's it's just not the right
environment to be floating it. But
perhaps in a few years things will
change. Um and and I do like the idea of
item five which is to look at um
donation and grants and partnerships
specifically as it relates to rebuilding
um and we're going to be discussing this
later rebuilding our police department
given the fact that there are many areas
where that can really stand improvement
especially the seismic improvement. So I
think um you know we have a town complex
this you know hall discussion redesign
but looking specifically at PD and see
what can be done along those lines but
thanks again for this in-depth analysis
wonderful presentation Mandy as always
thank you so much but I appreciate the
um detailed study and feedback extremely
helpful in our thinking. Thank you very
much.
>> And if I could just summarize the
direction just to make sure because I
know we there was a lot of opinions. So
we will continue to focus on the
staffing controls on the fee studies and
measure A. We'll sort of weigh cost
benefit and and talk a little bit more
about that internally. We'll keep the
potential revenue measure on the horizon
and evaluate the the work that needs to
be done there. We'll continue to pursue
donations, grants, partnerships, and
we'll bring forward that nonprofit um to
the council for consideration. Um again,
with the capital prioritization study,
it's it seems like it's already been
handled by public works. So, we'll we'll
hold on that and then we'll bring back
um studies about surplus land act and
town owned land uh for council to
discuss further.
>> Okay, Chris, that sounds about right.
Thank you so much.
>> And measure A, did you? Yes, measure I
said we will kind of we'll discuss that
more internally and see what weigh the
cost benefit on that as as well as the
development related engineering fees.
>> Thank you.
>> Thanks.
Next item
is umformational and we have Liz Roy
telling us about updates from the city
council subcommittee for town hall
complex project.
Okay.
Fortunately, this is just an update, so
you don't have to make any more
decisions. Um, just as a reminder going
back since it's been a while since we've
presented to the council on this, the
reason for the town hall complex project
and the town hall city council
subcommittee is um our housing element
identified the construction of 16
multifamily housing units on this site.
Um, we also identified the need to
replace the existing police department
um with a new facility because the
necessary seismic and structural
retrofitting of the existing building
would likely cost more than constructing
a new building. And then the big picture
was that the town recognized during the
housing element review process an
opportunity to reinvision the town hall
complex and develop a master plan for
the redevelopment of the site to
incorporate the housing that was
identified in the housing element. uh to
incorporate the improved public safety
facilities and then also address needs
for the town offices, community spaces
um and other elements that were
identified by community feedback during
the housing element process.
um community input that we've had so
far. We've held three community
conversations, conducted one
communitywide survey in order to inform
the community of the project
requirements and discuss the site
challenges, hear feedback from the
community. Um and we do have an upcoming
study session scheduled for August 10th.
We're excited for that meeting um that
we'll have a lot more to look at uh than
this presentation. Um, the council
remembers that we have partnered with
EHDD and Red Dot Studio. We brought them
on to assist with professional design
services to oversee the program
development and the site master
planning. They've um been working with
town staff and the subcommittee on the
state site analysis to understand the unique features, the waterline that
we have running under Walnut um and to
really deeply understand the needs of
each department and weigh that with
community feedback and council
direction.
The last presentation that I made to the
council about this was on September 8th
in 2025 and it doesn't seem like it was
that long ago, but at that meeting staff
provided anformational update um and we
presented several revised assumptions.
We had a discussion about the overall
site footprint, building adjacencies,
um, Walnut Avenue and um, the challenges
associated with the large water line
running under that and parking and and
project phasing. At that meeting, um,
the city council directed staff and the
subcommittee to evaluate creative
strategies to reduce the project's
parking demand. um there was a
significant amount of parking uh needed
above and beyond the existing parking
that we have now. The council also
directed staff and the subcommittee to
explore parking solutions that avoided
um the costly uh construction above
grade or below grade parking structures.
There were also concerns about
waterproofing and other um construction
related complications.
Um the council also directed to
investigate opportunities to expand the
town hall complex through acquisition or
incorporation of adjacent parcels. And
then additionally the the council
directed the subcommittee to identify
two preferred site plan alternatives for
presentation to the full city council
and discussion at a future study
session.
That study session, as I mentioned, is
scheduled for August 10th. So, we're
excited to bring um that back to the
full council and members of the
community to review those two preferred
site plans. Since that September 8th
meeting, the subcommittee has met twice
to review conceptual site plan
alternatives prepared by the project
consultants and further refine project
assumptions. Um at the last meeting, um
on May 21st, the consultants presented,
I believe it was seven alternative site
plans. Uh the meeting minutes from that
were attached to the staff report. But
at that meeting um the subcommittee
discussed the advantages and constraints
of the various com um site plans and
there were three members of the public
who attended this meeting and they were
also able to provide input and feedback
about the direction and the
identification of these two preferred
site plans that are going to move
forward.
Um so as I said there this was just an
update and certainly um if um the
subcommittee would like to provide any
additional detail I welcome that. Um but
really we wanted to encourage um all of
the members of the public here tonight
to attend the August 10th study session.
But we're hopeful we'll do obviously
some more um public outreach and
encourage members of the public to
attend that meeting. But we're excited
to finally have something to bring back
to the community and to the full council
and hopefully have a robust discussion
about the alternatives and their merits.
>> Thank you for the presentation. Do we
have any questions from the uh city
council?
» Um Vice Mayor Rexdale,
>> not a question, but just being on the
subcommittee. Um very happy with the
update and also um the study session
that's going to be at 300 p.m. Right.
So, I've just emphasized that in and
getting the word out so people so people
know the time and I encourage people to
attend. Thank you.
>> Yes. Um, Council Member Adams,
>> thank you so much, Liz. uh in terms of
the direction you got from the council
to uh come back with uh two preferred
site plans, I thought it was very
helpful in the materials that you gave
us uh in our packet to look at what the
cost would be and the time frame for
production and the square footage etc.
So, I'm just asking whether those two
preferred site plans will have that kind
of
very guessy idea because it does
influence
uh the reaction that I think you will be
looking to solicit which is uh how much
is the appetite for what's being
presented based on what it might cost.
>> Yes. Um part of the reason that this was
scheduled for the date that it was
scheduled was to ensure that we would
have um enough information well that the consultant would have enough
information about um the cost
assumptions uh for the two site plans.
We also asked them at the last review of
those alternatives to provide an overlay
so that we could that the count full
council could discuss potential phasing
of the project as well to understand you
know could the existing town hall
facilities stay in operation while a
portion of the construction was
happening because we felt that that
would be an important component of the
conversation.
>> Thank you. Any
additional um questions for
this ru? Um we'll go to public and um I have um well actually before we go to
the public, let me ask my question. Did
the subcommittee um looked at the
possibility of bifocating
the redesign of the police department
from redesign of the town hall
administrative complex.
>> Um that was certainly part of the
discussion. Um, I think the consultants
will probably be able to explain it more
eloquently than I can. Because of the safety and seismic needs required
for a public safety building, it will be
structurally separate from the rest of
the town hall facilities even though
it'll be architecturally integrated. Um,
so that that will be um so project
phasing was certainly a component of um
the review and the discussions. And do
you know if the consultants um explored
that in terms of the discussions you
had?
>> Yes, they did. And and they can be
prepared to speak to that at the study
session.
>> So they will be prepared to speak to
that more absolutely
>> at the study session.
>> Yep.
>> Okay. Um any
Okay, we'll go to public comments. Do we
have any public comments?
>> Thank you, Mayor Cole. I don't have any
speaker cards in the room, but I'll give
it a moment on Zoom if anyone would like
to provide comments on this item.
I'm not seeing any raised hands. Thank
you.
>> Yes. Okay. Coming back to the council.
We'll close public comments and come
back to the council. And um council
member Chong has a question.
>> Thank you. Uh uh Liz just questions
regarding the consultants because you
know for uh for police department there
are that is a specialty in terms of the
design and the spec and so in having the
consultants are they working with RPD in
terms of the specs and then uh and then
incorporated as a town complex is that
how that work? Yes, there were were
months of conversations between the
consultant and um and PD about exactly
what their space needs are in terms of
you know safeolding spaces, meeting
spaces, um you know all of the spatial
needs and how those adjacencies work
together um where they need to have
secured parking where they don't need to
have secured parking. So there was a lot
of coordination between the consultants
and PD about their needs.
>> All right. And then uh the follow-up
question is um will there be up you know
I'm I'm hopefully I'm not jumping ahead
but the we just talk about the long-term
finance in terms of this this town and
um in terms of the town complex there
have always been over the years
different functionality discussions and
the structures and the cohesiveness for
the community and for the specific
departments. So my question is will
there be opportunities for us to parse
it out in instead of looking at the town
complex as a whole um either at the
subcommittee level or the consultants um
the opportunity to parse it out
separately so that we can look at it and
look at the opportunity for the phases
to um get the project going.
>> Yes, absolutely.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Um, any additional comments
or feedback?
>> Yes.
>> Thank you, Liz.
>> Council member Adams.
>> Thank you. Just one comment. Uh I I
don't like to waste paper, but on the
preliminary plan options
uh if you could consolidate plan A all
in one page, plan B which has slop over
to the next page. It's just really hard
to make a comparison. And so I would
also recommend a chart that shows us
because we go from 24 million to 33
million and you can compare. Some take
three years, some take two and a half
years. Uh and if there were a chart that
summarized the key features, that might
be a helpful piece. I really loved
having the bigger versions of the uh
plans. uh we don't have any elevations
yet, but those interesting views of how
the scale uh fits with different
uh different buildings that exist right
now. I think that's what that was. So,
um if you can consolidate so it's easier
for us to compare what's happening.
>> Sure. I are you referring to the visuals
that were included in the third
attachment which was the assessment from
the the PD needs assessment
» we were we were given a prior study from
I think 2019 with different consultants
with regard to the police. I think
that's what you're referring to. So,
those plans are not developed by um our
current consultants.
So, it's just a referencing point as to
where we have been and uh the study
session is going to allow us to look at
it uh with the latest version of it.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
>> That is helpful.
>> Yes. but noted and we will make sure
that the information is presented
clearly and in a way that you can you
know understand the workflow and and and
see the plans. Certainly
>> I I definitely appreciate it. I hadn't
seen that study before. I had I had
understood the um you know the seismic
issues and all that. So it was very uh
handy to to see those details and I and
I agree yeah the presentation when when
the consultants come in I liked all of
those suggestions. Thank you.
>> Yes. Yes.
Okay. Um, any additional comments or
questions? Okay, this was informational.
Thank you so much.
>> Thanks, Liz.
» Okay, the next item isformational
updates from the city council
subcommittee. Well, sorry, that's what
we just did. It'sformational updates
from city council items.
um asking my colleagues to report um if
there's anything to report from
subcommittees or boards. Starting with
council member Adams.
Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um this is um
my view at my table in Monteray at a
very cool restaurant that I don't want
to tell the name of because I don't want
it to be overrun with people, but it is
called the Sandbar. And I just couldn't
help but tell you that's one one thing I
did in June. Uh next slide. Uh really
excited about something that u the Judah
family contributed. Council member
Krrolik was instrumental and was there
and Natalie was there as well. This is a
healthy snack bar for our public works
team and uh it's just really thrilling
to see this kind of a partnership. I
think this is what we're talking about,
encouraging more of, but uh finding a
wonderful family like the Judah family
uh to support it is a real thrill for
everyone at public works. Wanted to
acknowledge that. This is Stephanie
Judah, a cutting the ribbon. Uh next
slide.
If you've ever wondered uh what it looks
like inside one of our tanks, uh it's
kind of a Star Wars set basically. Uh we
are recotating the tank at uh Skyarm and
I just thought it was an extraordinary
thing to consider what's going on where
we can't really see it. So we're really
proud of that. Next,
uh I really want to thank our water team
that was coordinated by water supervisor
Jeremy McMullen. He's been here many
times being recognized because uh in
this instance, for example, a water mane
break happened at 11 p.m. on June 30th,
and it was pretty much barely noticed uh
by those affected because they stayed
all night and repaired it around 6:00
a.m. So, great work to our public works
department in every department. And uh
here's a little closeup of the kinds of
work they're doing uh in the middle of
the night. So we appreciate them very
much. Next slide.
And because we appreciate them so much,
I asked if I could have an org chart to
know who they were and learn more of the
names. And I just wanted to share.
Here's the big version of it. Uh this is
a picture of everyone and how they fit
together as a team. And yes, I'm doing
this to kind of go all the other
departments to do something similar
because we really appreciate our staff
so much. But you're seeing them for such
a short period of time and learning
their names is really an important part
of our interaction as uh members of the
council. Plus, it's terrific looking.
Yes, you have to update it as people
come and go, but it's really a nifty
thing I'm very grateful for. Next,
uh I attended for Rethink Wastes uh
three board meetings in June, which was
unusual, but uh we made up for it by no
meeting in July. And we did pass the
budget for the refreshed educational
center, which has been renamed the
community courtyard, which I think is
much more appropriate than education.
education's not the most attractive name
for most people. So, this is really
exciting. And as you can see, we're
going to have uh the sort of sail that
is there now and ripped uh with a a
wooden structure made out of redwood. Uh
there will be on the pergola there'll be
a table area that will be all planted.
Uh we have redwood tables that are
coming. It's going to be really
exciting. Next
uh telecommunication uh we are working
thanks to uh uh vice
not mayor uh vice manager city manager
my my I really without slides I can't
talk at the end of these meetings
telecommunications uh survey we're
working on some outreach Tobin Clark ad
hawk ad hawk we're working on a phase
two an expansion to a subcommittee
uh commercial activity regulations ad
hoc committee also met and is working on
edits. A public works uh commission I
had a meeting there as well and there
was no HPF meeting in June next
and I just couldn't help it. This is
what summer looks like if you drag
yourself to San Francisco and try to
look at the fireworks and but uh this is
the time of year when we have light and
we have food and family and fun and I
just want to encourage everybody to
enjoy right now.
Thank you. Um, Council Member Chong,
» very briefly, um, we in June we host,
uh, Hillsboro Neighborhood Network
hosted, uh, it's a speaker series, the
second series, and we have our own Dr.
Weinberg talk about defensible space on
behalf of Firewise. And we also have uh
United Policy come and talk about um
emergency preparedness, the policy that
is available and accessible to
residents. And there were a lot of
questions. Uh we also have our city
manager and our fire chief present. So
they were able to fill some of the
questions that our residents have. So we
do realize that insurance is part of the
interest that our residents are very
much um engaged in uh because fair plan
is not offering a lot of options and um
so uh we'll continue to uh research on
this project and uh this topic and then
hopefully be able to bring in bring back
uh more interesting subject for our uh
speaker series. Um and then end of June
uh we actually have um central county
fire departments actually hosted a three
days um three full days of train the
trainer for cert um we have about 30
students who or 30 participants uh who
are at the the at the end of the weekend
are officially receiving um certificates
and become an instructors for future classes. So, it's very exciting.
I think that we're really um building
the team and then trying to get more
people engaged in training and also uh
to be able to teach others um to get
ready and get prepared. So, uh very
proud of Central County Fire
instructors and um uh and we'll just
continue to, you know, um go forward
with it. Thank you. And and the other
thing that I do want to say, I want to
compliment the youth committees for
putting on a terrific uh prime events.
It was well done and it was really just
nicely incorporated to hear all these
young people talk about their
experience. So really appreciate that.
>> Thank you, Council Member Chuang. Um,
Council Member Cruic,
>> I was going to start with Pride. It was
great and it was great the youth youth
commission took it over. Um, I would
like a paper copy of that public works
org chart. That is great. It's a little
small to see it on the screen. So, that
is great. And would love I don't know if
HPD has updated its roster, but would
love I know you've got some more people
would love to see that. That's just a
request. And just wanted to add on about
the Judah family's um support of public
works with the healthy food initiative.
They not only supplied all the equipment
to keep it cold and fresh, but um they
have put together a fund so that public
works can continue to keep this the the
healthy food um uh supplied. Um an
update on Concore. It was really a
wonderful show. I understand. I was
actually overseas, but I've seen
pictures. And next month, Rob Fischer
will come and give a presentation on the
concore. Um, we want to welcome Jennifer
Huey to building and planning, our
senior planner, and she doubled the
number of projects that we usually have
at ADRB. So, the June um meeting was
quite a robust meeting. Um, and then
finally, uh, just a quick update on 40
Baywood. um the state did uh grant them
their taxexempt um status and now they
have submitted paperwork to the county.
So that is moving along. Uh thank you
very much.
>> Thank you. Um Vice Mayor Braxdale,
>> thank you. Um I thought it's summer,
there's nothing going on, and then I
went through my calendar, I was like,
oh, it was it was very busy. So, uh,
next slide. Um, ebikes. Um, very
exciting. The, um, the pilot project for
Sanonteo County where you have to be,
um, 12 or older to ride an ebike has
gone to the next stage. Um, it then the last thing, well, second to last
thing it will be before the Senate uh,
full the full floor and then hopefully
gets passed and then it goes to the
governor. So, stay tuned on that. And
then today uh in the USA Today, our very
own Dr. Blake Taylor uh had an opinion
piece that his mom Nadine helped a lot
with that's fantastic about the
realities of uh being a neurosurgeon and trauma surgeon and operating on
someone with ebike injuries. So, um I
would say check that out. And um Mandy
Brown was super helpful updating our
already amazing website because they
linked our website uh in the article. So
we are now nationally known for our
ebike expertise. So thank you Mandy. Uh
next slide.
Um oh I I was able to go to the new um
the groundbreaking for the Crocker.
They're putting up a new um
multi-purpose room. uh they call it
Crocker Commons, a rendering of it of
it, the new facilities on the right and
then the left. I just thought that was a
cool picture with the equipment that's
tearing down the old MPR. Um and that
was the thing I was going to mention to
the Crocker alums that were here. they
did before they um took down the old
murals, they did um it's on their
website somewhere or on the construction
website maybe or the school website,
they did a video of all the old murals
and so you can stop it and screenshot it
and send it to your um your Crocker
alums. So, it is it is pretty cool. I
know my uh twins enjoyed that. Uh next
slide.
And then uh the mayor and I were at the
prek promotion ceremony. I didn't want
to put up pictures of kids I didn't have
permission to show, so it's not that
great of a slide, but it was it was a
great day. They are so adorable. They do dances and um they're with their
parents and they are so they are so
proud. And this was up at uh Vista Park
because um they're already starting
construction at the various locations.
Next slide.
uh just some different things that I've
done that people have already mentioned.
Uh uh of course our own uh Dr. Weinberg
did an amazing presentation. Thank you
very much. Um and then I did watch uh a
webinar by the state insurance
commission and I was like I know all
this already after H&N speaker series.
So um great job. Uh the youth commission
really knocked it out of the park and
they did something different. Last year
they had live music and this year they
did an amazing um presentation on the
history of LGBTQ famous people and it
was it was really really well done and I
love that they they're making it their
own and and shaking it up with what
their interests and abilities are. I
loved it. Um, oh, our California
Association of Youth Commissions, which
our own youth commissioners started. Um,
Rohan Dalal and Ana Dal. Um, they're
doing a virtual summer internship
program and they have 56 interns and I
welcome them at their their first
meeting and u she's taking them all. She
and her fellow commissioners are taking
them all up to a day in Sacramento and
she's arranging meetings and tours and
it's just fantastic for those kids and
done all by the kids. Um I attended with
council member Schwang. We were at the
resiliency hall at Sano County Event
Center. They're opening up huge kitchen.
Uh I think I had a picture of that but I
have too many pictures. Um and um it's
amazing and they they not only if in an
emergency they can feed a ton of people
who you know lost their lost their homes
or access to their homes but in the
meantime small businesses can rent it
out and um it could be a test kitchen
for um small businesses especially
minority owned businesses to um have a
kitchen space. So it's a fantastic use
of space. Um and then um the mayor and I
went to the council of cities dinner in
East PaloAlto. I did not know they
didn't have a town hall. They have a
place to meet, but they don't have a
town hall and they're just kind of
spread all over the place. But um they
are getting some hopefully getting some
funding from Lorine Powell Jobs um
foundation and they're working on
putting together a um town hall. And
next slide.
West Light Energy. I've been talking
about it for so long. Um, Peninsula
Clean Energy is now West Light Energy.
Um, you it's it's now everywhere. Quick
little story. I have no sense of
direction and so I was typing in
something or doing something at at the
stoplight. Um, and I see my uh on my
Apple Maps and I was I see prior
locations and it already said West Light
Energy instead of Peninsula Clean
Energy. So, they've really worked to get
the name everywhere and uh it will be on
your PG bill, the the next one coming in
mid July. Um, and then they have um I
love this idea for when you're on a
board, you know, you get to know the
people that come present to you. Uh,
commute.org or Bosa, they each have nine
employees. So, I know all their
employees by by name. They all come to
all the meetings, but um uh West Light
Energy is about 68 employees, so you
don't know them all. And they also have
a remote first policy. So you just know
the one the people that present to you.
But they have a quarterly staff retreat
and each time they invite a board member
to do a fireside chat and talk about
your your leadership style, why you
became involved in public service, but
also talk about your town because
there's a lot of towns and um they get
to know individual towns that way. So I
thought that was a it was a great idea
and I was honored to be to be asked. Uh
next slide.
Oh, and also Westside Energy back when
it was PCE. I had mentioned this before,
but I was able to go to their the
reception for the best places to work
award and that is our CEO and the head
of what we call HR, but head of um
people and culture and it was a fun
event up at um the Topgolf and next
slide might be it.
Oh, and then just meetings. Um, like I
said, it's been busy for some reason.
And, uh, next slide. I think that might
be it.
That's it. Thank you.
>> Yeah, you were quite busy. Um, thank
you. Um, as stated by my colleagues, um,
I'm in some of these meetings. Um,
however, I tend to um the things I tend
to remember the most are the one-on-one
conversations I had with a few
residents, especially regarding um the
tree the vegetation management that's
been going on in town by PG&E
contractors and other individuals. Um, I
had several outreach from residents with
concerns or complaints or
recommendations or suggestions as to how
some of the vegetation management could
be handled um could be better handled.
Um, I know that our Firewise uh staff, I
mean, Firewise volunteers, certainly not
staff, the most the most generous of
residents volunteers were involved this
past month and probably continues in
terms of the work they've been doing uh
regarding working with residents on
vegetation management for fire
prevention and fire mitigation. So,
thanks again. I see Dr. Weinberg is here
as well. So, thanks uh to Firewise uh
volunteers who continue to work
diligently on that issue. Um I yes, as
uh council member Crowley pointed out,
we're making progress on the Baywood
property. It's things are coming along
have to deal with states and county and
those conversations continue. Our
discussion on the Tobin Clark um project
is making progress as well. We did do a
presentation last month to the council
and the residents and we'll continue our
frequent meetings and moving the ball
forward. Um CCFD discussions are
underway regarding our joint
partnerships especially as it pertains
to funding. So we'll be reporting to you
um in the future and hopefully in the
near future as to where things stand.
And by far one of my most fun events
last month was the prek graduation. That
was certainly a fun meeting to go to. It
wasn't a meeting, it was a party and it
was fun with with the prek four year
olds. I did spend a good amount of time
in June traveling. I went hiking on a
all women's trip in Portugal. Lots of
fun. That's it. Thank you.
Any um additional
questions or comments before we close
the meeting?
>> Ah, yes. Just really quickly uh because
our um council mentioned about the
Semitel event center. The semitile event
center is our emergency preparedness
gathering place like if there's
evacuation that is the ideal place and
it's is destined to be the emergency
areas for um because they have the
kitchen, they have the shower facility,
they have gathering place, they have
areas where they can house the larger
animals. So there's it you now look at
um event centers in a different light
because there are multiple layers of u
functionalities in that. So just want to
mention that.
>> Thank you. Um seeing no additional
comments um this meeting is now
adjourned. Thank you.