1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Please join councilwoman Luvodachi for the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,430 All right, good afternoon everybody. 3 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:29,930 I think our town clerk has noticed that he has to read into the record. 4 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:32,670 And then we'll just say hello to the conversation about the budget. 5 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:34,370 Good afternoon everybody. 6 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:41,170 I'm meeting notice delivered on August 24, 2026 in address to Councilman Benaro, Councilwoman 7 00:00:41,170 --> 00:00:45,570 Lovinachi, Councilwoman Mara, Councilwoman Hebert, the following was stated, pursuant 8 00:00:45,570 --> 00:00:51,590 section 62, the town law, two special meetings of the town board of the town on Huntington 9 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:59,490 Mobile on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 to 2 p.m. and Thursday, September 3rd, at 2026 at 2 p.m. 10 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:03,510 from 14 at Huntington Town Hall 133 on to New York. 11 00:01:03,890 --> 00:01:06,990 To consider reviewing the draft 2027 budget 12 00:01:06,990 --> 00:01:09,810 and to discuss all related financial business 13 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:12,790 and any other business that may come before the board. 14 00:01:13,090 --> 00:01:15,430 Board members will analyze fiscal data 15 00:01:15,430 --> 00:01:19,090 to ensure they are fully informed before voting on whether 16 00:01:19,090 --> 00:01:22,090 or to override the state mandate and tax cap, 17 00:01:22,350 --> 00:01:24,050 signed as engaged. 18 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:27,170 Met supervisor, supervisor Smith, they can confirm. 19 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:33,710 That said, meeting noticed was really signed, distributed, and hosted, as required by New York State of Paul. 20 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:35,370 Thank you, Mr. Rath. 21 00:01:36,150 --> 00:01:48,070 All right, so going right into it, I hope that everybody over the last couple of weeks has had an opportunity to speak to our directors and deputy directors, and he's department, and also with the controllers office if you haven't yet. 22 00:01:48,070 --> 00:01:55,470 I say again, the control is offices that everybody's disposal any data that you need or what. 23 00:01:55,830 --> 00:02:00,130 The same thing, directors as well, deputy directors, you know, from an operational standpoint, 24 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:04,750 nobody's going to give you better information than speaking directly with directors, 25 00:02:05,070 --> 00:02:08,690 or their deputies to find out if there were any cuts to be made, 26 00:02:08,910 --> 00:02:14,450 how that would have an actual impact on the ground within any particular departments. 27 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:24,130 So with that, we went through last week, we were talking about what the budget under the tax 28 00:02:24,130 --> 00:02:32,150 cap, but right at just below the tax cap line, would look like, as far as what a fully 29 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:38,490 funded budget looks like going forward, which is taking this year's budget rolling 30 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:46,710 forward into 2027, a couple of changes that you'll see. I don't know if this was provided 31 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:55,870 up, but it will be the right here. So the vacant positions right now total of 3.3 million 32 00:02:55,870 --> 00:03:01,610 if you had it those back in, that's a total of 57 vacant positions that are in the budget 33 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:07,270 currently. It was 14 of them are appointed vacancies and 43 of them are civil service positions. 34 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:12,430 So that was fully funded and added back in. 35 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:15,770 And then looking at the garbage collection, 36 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:20,890 I would recommend, and I'd probably put it into my presentation. 37 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:25,170 It presented budget is an additional $1 million for garbage collection 38 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:30,310 because while we can look at the numbers as they are. 39 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:38,150 And very bluntly, I think the cost of garbage collection realistically is going to continue 40 00:03:38,150 --> 00:03:45,390 to rise up and saying it for several years that the biggest fiscal crisis, the long island 41 00:03:45,390 --> 00:03:50,650 in general is going to face is going to be solid, waste garbage collection on the island. 42 00:03:52,530 --> 00:03:55,490 It's a real problem. 43 00:03:56,090 --> 00:04:03,750 And then, in addition, the special events fund, we currently budget 100,000 for it. 44 00:04:03,850 --> 00:04:07,930 I want to raise that by 200,000 for a total of 300,000. 45 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:11,790 So, special events just serve me understand what that, why we're doing that. 46 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:16,330 For years, what the practice has been for the town. 47 00:04:16,490 --> 00:04:19,710 Whenever there is a talent-wide event, for example, the fall festival. 48 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:26,750 So the fall festival, we put out for security and other reasons. 49 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:32,270 The highway department will park 10-wheel trucks on the roadways to prevent any air cars 50 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:40,450 when they can turn into the festival or at parades on the parade route doing the same thing. 51 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:48,670 Whenever that happens, those vehicles and the personnel that separate those vehicles, 52 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:54,270 So they come out of the highway department's budget, because they're highway trucks. 53 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:59,970 However, these are tamois events, and I think Andre has had a little bit of a... 54 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:29,880 We've done it last year for 100,000, but I think more realistically, as close to 300,000 dollars in expenses, we've created a line item in the budget called special events where the highway department will still continue to provide those trucks and additional services, but it shouldn't be coming out of the highway. 55 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,780 department's budget to do that. It's a townwide event, so it's a huge amount of a townwide 56 00:05:34,780 --> 00:05:41,000 fund so that we've created a budget line called Special Events last year for 100,000, but realistically, 57 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:45,720 it's close to 300,000, so there's a $200,000 addition of that. 58 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:51,240 So with that, looking at the numbers 59 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:59,280 currently, for adding those three items back in, we're actually closer to $269 million in the total 60 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:06,140 budget. Okay. And let me just ask it. Was this, was it circulated? Where's it? 61 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:15,660 We've got, okay. Yeah, this is, this is hard off the press. But looking at that and then 62 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:23,480 going into some of the things that were suggested in conversations both here at the last meeting 63 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:30,620 we have here and also just listening from, you know, what conversations that you have with 64 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:34,680 the controllers office, what they suggested, so the several resolutions that are available 65 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,760 for cuts, but again, anything's on the table, you can cut, or add whatever, whatever 66 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,240 they think is important. 67 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:46,620 I'd like to question about what is the main theme mentioned. 68 00:06:46,860 --> 00:06:52,120 What is the possible premise, you know, is it going to get the dollar amount of the unfilts 69 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,840 pointed positions versus the field of civil service positions, but to see the difference between those with a dollar. 70 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,220 That's in there. These are the 14 pointed zones. I don't know if that's 71 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,120 but the dollar amounts. So I have a choice over all the entire 72 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,100 line item for the 11 pointed positions from the 11 pointed positions. 73 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,220 So there's 57 total. There's 14 pointed zones which are right there. 74 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:23,120 And as far as the point it's go, those are what the board votes to compensate from ask. 75 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,760 But there's general guidelines on what they fall into. 76 00:07:27,140 --> 00:07:30,960 And then there's 43 civil service positions that are unfilled. 77 00:07:31,060 --> 00:07:34,020 However, baked into next year's budget already. 78 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Three of those positions would be filled. 79 00:07:37,660 --> 00:07:41,500 There's two entry-level IT positions that we would fill. 80 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:44,840 But those two individuals are currently part time. 81 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,740 we've made them full time and then there's one fire Marshall position which doing inspections 82 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:54,340 and like for the fire Marshall's office there are sure handers and I think those two 83 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:58,940 positions were necessary positions and I think actually the fire Marshall's office typically 84 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,960 looking at the business. Yeah they pay for themselves. So we asked about that I was looking 85 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,880 to have as much as I'm the person that's kind of arguing to find the cuts. I was looking to have 86 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,240 a person at the back of fire Marshall's office because from what I understand that's going to be 87 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,080 positive for us because of the extra person that we're going to bring in the extra ready. 88 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:17,860 Yes. 89 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Yes. 90 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:19,460 So, yeah. 91 00:08:20,860 --> 00:08:23,200 Really a net zero to the bottom. 92 00:08:23,860 --> 00:08:31,780 So, the 57 total of the breakdown of it is the 14 appointed 43 civil service, but 3 being 93 00:08:31,780 --> 00:08:32,060 filled. 94 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,340 So, it's 14, 40, and that's great. 95 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,560 That's your total 57 conditions. 96 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:52,160 And I'm sorry, I won't see entire $1,000 and I know that the three has been appointed so the number has been different, but just what was selected working number. 97 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,280 For all the vacant positions, $3,361,300 and $1,312. 98 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,720 I don't know what to write it down. 99 00:09:02,180 --> 00:09:02,740 I don't know what to write it down. 100 00:09:02,740 --> 00:09:05,220 If you look right here, if you can't. 101 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,940 When I write stuff down, it helps me remember basic. 102 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:12,140 Just as a kid, always, I always feel that it helps me remember better 103 00:09:12,140 --> 00:09:13,080 and it's sort of the information. 104 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,440 So thank you, though. 105 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:23,520 In my mind, if it means that we've cut $3 million out of our budget, 106 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,980 without losing any staff, that seems to be like 107 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:29,120 with place to stop. 108 00:09:30,460 --> 00:09:38,160 When you would lose people, not already on SAMHSA, or for a musician's that had not been filmed yet. 109 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,060 Some of them are positions that haven't failed. 110 00:09:40,340 --> 00:09:47,560 So for example, if there's currently a current vacant position, the deputy and waste management, 111 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,680 it's vacant position. 112 00:09:49,060 --> 00:09:51,520 So John Clark doesn't have a deputy currently. 113 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:59,580 or direct impersonal was vacant, or there's no deputy, well-traffic is now rolled into 114 00:09:59,580 --> 00:09:59,860 engineer. 115 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,920 But Scott Spittles working without a deputy, deputy, committee, committee positions vacant. So there, you know, I've heard a lot of, you know, you hear the people talking and saying, well, cut the fat out of the budget. Well, we've done that for the last four years. We have cut, you know, there are so many vacant positions because we just don't, you know, when people either leave or retire or whatever, we just don't fill them. So we're left with a lot of them. But some of those positions on there, I mean, we can go through them and look at some of them, I was suggest we should not cut. 116 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,300 they really need to be filled, like a director of personnel, for example, is somebody that 117 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:39,020 this is necessary or a former director can tell you to have a liability. 118 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Yeah, it's a very busy, very important position, HR. 119 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,960 The plan, there's some positions within that list of positions that, you know, are not 120 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,800 costing anybody a job currently, and could hold off on maybe being filled in a year when we're 121 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,080 having such a challenge, but you know, no question about it. 122 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,280 So, if I could just jump in because I was actually a perfect sideway to something that I was holding to the time-time. 123 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:09,260 I did not, I was unable to participate in last week's meeting, but I can say that I did watch it. 124 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:12,260 And I thought a lot of interesting points for raise. 125 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:23,140 And I thought that in particular the issue raised by Councilwoman Hever has a release to the healthcare benefits was one that struck me in particular. 126 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:32,700 And I say that what you just said about the vacancy and the position is that at the time that was voted on it was under the banner of recruitment and retention. 127 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:42,640 And also under an impression that we were fiscally healthy, it's now become very clear that that is not in that case. 128 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:50,740 So, I, I, I'm going to echo, uh, the council meets a question and I noticed that one was 129 00:11:50,740 --> 00:11:56,680 asked it last week. It was on answer about appealing that, um, you know, about appealing that 130 00:11:56,680 --> 00:12:01,440 was a solution, um, that I had appeared. Uh, and if not that, at least in a memory to it. 131 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:05,760 Because, um, I think that it's definitely one of the first and most important, 132 00:12:05,780 --> 00:12:09,880 important steps that we can take, um, you can send me a minute to go back where it was before. 133 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,420 correct or at the earliest, you know, because, you know, in light of this financial 134 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:18,680 crisis, I think that it's, it's in person who needs to authenticate. 135 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:24,240 That's not really a conversation we can all have because obviously everybody is going to 136 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,880 have a, you know, we've all got some amounts of skin in the game where it comes to that 137 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,300 particular resolution. So it's obviously a conversation that we can have so we can arrive 138 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:39,320 at something that people would feel comfortable with, but I don't see going forward without 139 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,540 doing some kind of work to that particular, the particular health benefits package, 140 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:53,320 but frankly, I think it's, you know, even if it's just symbolic that you are willing to start with ourselves. 141 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,280 I think there's a value to that. 142 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Well, I don't disagree, and I think that if we're, I don't see how we can keep an executive 143 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,620 perkin place, if you will, and then ask the taxpayers to have their property taxes raised, 144 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,240 while also simultaneously, it's scared of a pencil of the workers. 145 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,380 Are you suggesting repealing the health insurance for the elected? 146 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:17,300 Not workable repealing the entire resolution. 147 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,140 But it's pretty good. 148 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:21,000 Sure. 149 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:23,880 Your high school of participation is the highest level of education. 150 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,400 The highest level of education. 151 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,020 I don't like that. 152 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:29,700 I don't like that. 153 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:30,600 I don't like that. 154 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:31,480 I don't like that. 155 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:31,880 I don't like that. 156 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,220 We're talking about repealing health insurance as we're sitting in the 157 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:43,300 change. Because if you've repealed the six year change, it's going to have zero fiscal impact. 158 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:48,280 Absolutely, that's symbolic. It's purely symbolic, I mean, because, you know, 159 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,600 everybody's sitting here at this table next year is still entirely, so it's symbolic. 160 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,340 It's purely cosmetic to repeal that and put it back to where it was. 161 00:13:57,380 --> 00:13:59,360 It'll have no fiscal impact on next year's budget. 162 00:13:59,660 --> 00:14:04,260 I don't disagree with that point, but I do think, though, that I think we can all relate that. 163 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:09,480 And to keep a perfect like that in place, while may not be an immediate expense, I think 164 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,560 that we can all read it. 165 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,340 A definitely, it's going to be a point to ease where our work is going to have you, that 166 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:15,400 there will be at some point. 167 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,660 And I think that it's definitely worth a discussion, whether it's decided right now. 168 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:27,480 I mean, I'm talking about the suming that the health and the package that our civil service workers 169 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,260 get and that working, they're not getting away from the health insurance after six years. 170 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:32,980 I'm pretty sure. 171 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:36,740 And so, for us to get it, it seems, I don't know, to close it. 172 00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:38,160 But it's not lifetime, right? 173 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,440 It still kicks in at 62, not 65 years old. 174 00:14:41,540 --> 00:14:42,060 It's a little tickle. 175 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:47,320 Man, it's working to make it play an A, and then it's just something that's playing B, which I think it's about. 176 00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:48,660 Which all are two years old. 177 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:49,340 Which all are two years old. 178 00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:50,160 I think it's still two years old. 179 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960 And I don't have the things to take it away from people overall. 180 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,920 I'm just saying that it seems like the change that was made before I arrived here. 181 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,180 Thank you very much. 182 00:15:07,310 --> 00:15:20,770 Well, there was no reason to believe for those from my perspective anyway, but there was any financial crisis around the back. And now, in fact, we're being faced with one of those persons. 183 00:15:21,090 --> 00:15:27,030 Well, I disagree on a couple of issues. Number one, I don't think there's a fiscal crisis, even remotely close to it. 184 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:29,470 Number one in terms of financial suicide. 185 00:15:29,650 --> 00:15:30,950 Yes, sounds pretty. 186 00:15:31,190 --> 00:15:33,530 No, it's saying that the tax cap would be. 187 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:35,470 I would just be clear, you know, 188 00:15:35,510 --> 00:15:37,950 you're talking about, you know, panicking the workforce. 189 00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:41,230 I've never for a second suggested staying under the tax cap. 190 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:44,150 I did that as an exercise to demonstrate what that would look like. 191 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:47,790 I thought it was something that, you know, 192 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:50,830 okay, useful exercise for the directors to do. 193 00:15:51,290 --> 00:15:55,950 Okay, but, you know, to the other thing is, you know, 194 00:15:55,950 --> 00:16:00,650 health insurance when we're looking at this and, you know, I get it. It's great political 195 00:16:00,650 --> 00:16:05,490 optics to start talking about the 6 years, but it's been grossly exaggerated into something 196 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:12,670 that it's not, especially when we're sitting here talking about the 27, the 2027 budget that we all 197 00:16:12,670 --> 00:16:16,890 know and everybody's acknowledged that changing the health insurance will have zero fiscal impact 198 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:24,410 on the 2027 budget. Literally zero. Okay. Now, we can still talk about it. That's great. Why don't 199 00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:29,110 do it in an open form in a town board meeting, we've got to maximum impact for next year's 200 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:33,370 elections, fantastic. But today we're talking about the budget. 201 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:35,650 No, it's just a little reaction. No, it's just a little reaction. 202 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:37,590 No, it's just a little reaction. Take the exception with that. 203 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:39,070 Take the exception with that. 204 00:16:39,070 --> 00:16:40,670 Take the exception with that. Let's focus on the budget. 205 00:16:40,670 --> 00:16:43,930 What I'm trying to do is, you know what I'm going to do is to get the budget. 206 00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:46,090 That's responsible. No, I'm not going to do this. 207 00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:49,990 It's like the bubble. It shouldn't. I agree that we should do something, but it's not 208 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:54,390 symbolic, but it's not something we are, even though it's not 209 00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:57,910 I don't know if that's the, but it's not in fact, 210 00:16:57,910 --> 00:17:00,470 just wasn't much enough to do it, but I don't have a problem. 211 00:17:00,850 --> 00:17:03,930 I was just saying, no, that we want to take it away from all of our point. 212 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:05,150 It's been a minute and it's okay. 213 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:06,430 I don't care if it's done to me. 214 00:17:06,530 --> 00:17:08,470 I'm not really the benefit from it anyway. 215 00:17:08,650 --> 00:17:10,270 It's been a week to old, so it doesn't really matter. 216 00:17:11,090 --> 00:17:12,810 But it's not for me. 217 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:16,470 So it's not a symbolic thing in the words of violence used. 218 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:19,870 If you're going to do it, you're doing it for the right reason, 219 00:17:20,090 --> 00:17:24,330 because you want to show that we're willing to also take that. 220 00:17:24,330 --> 00:17:26,330 I'm not really, and I can't say like that. 221 00:17:26,330 --> 00:17:31,510 I'm not really taking the head because I'm too old, but he should have passed. 222 00:17:31,670 --> 00:17:32,290 Yes, he should have passed. 223 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:33,250 But I am. 224 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:35,890 But it's for your birthday. 225 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:36,670 But it's a lifetime. 226 00:17:36,770 --> 00:17:43,710 But I'm taking his eye and I have no problem saying that that's something that we should do in light of what's going on. 227 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:46,470 But we can take a look at the way from the front of the wall. 228 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:51,870 Yeah, I just want to say, let's talk about the... 229 00:17:51,870 --> 00:17:53,810 You know, at the time of his own time, 230 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:58,090 is that there was no indication at least for here, let me back out. 231 00:17:58,370 --> 00:18:00,650 In the tent, let's look at the towns of the way this is a corporation, 232 00:18:01,770 --> 00:18:05,290 but where your board of directors, the residents or the shareholders, 233 00:18:05,950 --> 00:18:10,570 and yours is CFO. At that time, it wasn't even a Toyota of an indication, 234 00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:17,570 and actually all the more fascinating that we were staring down at financial issues such as 235 00:18:17,570 --> 00:18:20,750 as big as what is being presented before us, right? 236 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:25,990 So my issue is that moving forward, it is forward, 237 00:18:26,130 --> 00:18:27,110 thinking that it doesn't matter, 238 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:28,710 because maybe won't affect 27, 239 00:18:29,370 --> 00:18:31,390 but what are the financial numbers 240 00:18:31,390 --> 00:18:32,650 of the projections moving forward 241 00:18:32,650 --> 00:18:34,210 as of the least of that particular action? 242 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:36,750 I mean, that is early, 243 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:38,690 or as recently as you say, is July. 244 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:43,690 There was the 2025 financial board, 245 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:46,690 which I reviewed, they July first, 246 00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:48,790 And it stinks and hears glowing. 247 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:53,390 It's glowing about the state of affairs, the financial state of affairs of the town. 248 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:56,410 So my question, I guess, is this? 249 00:18:56,810 --> 00:18:57,950 What happened? 250 00:18:58,770 --> 00:18:58,990 Yeah. 251 00:18:59,670 --> 00:19:01,330 I mean, it's only been. 252 00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:02,850 This was the line first. 253 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:04,870 So what happened? 254 00:19:04,970 --> 00:19:05,800 That's what happened. 255 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:06,690 That's what happened. 256 00:19:06,690 --> 00:19:07,850 What happened in one year? 257 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:09,810 And we're staring at 16 million dollars. 258 00:19:10,510 --> 00:19:10,670 Okay. 259 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:14,970 So first of all, I'll be happy to go through it line by line. 260 00:19:14,970 --> 00:19:16,410 I'll start with this. 261 00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:21,750 I've been saying for the last two years at least that it's very unlikely we were to stay 262 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:22,550 under the tax cap. 263 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:24,270 We could cut everything we possibly could. 264 00:19:24,370 --> 00:19:28,770 I've been saying that every budget meeting we've had publicly, whether anybody's been paying 265 00:19:28,770 --> 00:19:33,050 attention or not, I've been saying it's going to be exceptionally difficult to stay under 266 00:19:33,050 --> 00:19:34,730 the tax cap in the year ahead. 267 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:40,910 That's been part of my presentation at least the last two years that I recall. 268 00:19:40,910 --> 00:19:48,490 Well, what we have been doing as a town policy is we had exceptional reserves, and we did, 269 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:54,870 and as a matter of policy, we were paying down our reserves in a pay as you go policy with 270 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:59,190 the town, so we put a lot of money on our capital projects that we would have ordinarily 271 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:59,850 been bonding. 272 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:14,140 We paid cash for, we did not fund for those projects. In addition, any surplus is that we had. We did the same thing. We returned it to the taxpayers by additional pay, any additional drain, and additional projects throughout the town. 273 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:26,020 And as you can see, by the 57 vacant positions, it wasn't go higher people left than right. In fact, I would cut some positions that were returned into the budget over my objection. 274 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:32,520 But to say that there's, oh, this is a fiscal crisis, it's not. 275 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,120 We've just come to a point where for the last several years, we have paid down on reserves 276 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:45,060 and we've had an increase in costs of operating the town that exceed the 2% tax cap and 277 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:55,540 there's only so long you can continue to have expenses go up by 4, 5, 6%, and some light 278 00:20:55,540 --> 00:21:02,060 the tax cap at two or 2.3% when there's a growth factor in just to it. 279 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:06,260 But after a certain period of time, the math doesn't add up any longer. 280 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,240 The savings has gone down to, you know, we still have the fair amount of savings, 281 00:21:11,740 --> 00:21:15,720 but we're not where we were two or three years ago where we had savings to the point 282 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,500 that would be criticized for holding out the tax payers money. 283 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,360 Okay, so as a matter of policy, we paid that down, and that's where we're at now. 284 00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:25,400 We're not at a crisis. 285 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:27,180 We're not a crisis. 286 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:36,240 The memo address to the board of directors is that remaining under the tax cap, which 287 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,520 by way, I happen to find, and I think that everybody in this table does, piercing it to 288 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,460 be a very, very serious thing, okay? 289 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:50,000 And that the assertion is that if we remain under it and don't pierce it, it's fiscal suicide 290 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,700 for the town of Huntington. 291 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,200 Yes. 292 00:21:52,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Moreover, you have been indicated that there's no circumstance that you look at on a final budget that we're using on the task. 293 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:06,300 I'm characterizing that as work really facing a financial issue here. 294 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Because again, there wasn't a whisper of this. 295 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:17,260 In fact, when it first came on, but the radar, if you will, or my radar anyway, was when it appeared kind of on the agenda item in June. 296 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:20,480 And I remember I asked the workshop, I said, well, what am I doing? 297 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:27,260 was brushed off as it was a mere administrative formality. It's just in case, I don't know. We went 298 00:22:27,260 --> 00:22:33,720 from that to now this where you're indicating what you've indicated that it's fiscal suicide 299 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,060 you don't. So I guess what I want to know is what's happening here? Why is the first time any of this 300 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:47,540 thing discussed with the Board of Directors from the CFO? Now, why did I get a lot of the panic 301 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:51,760 emotional phone calls from work force saying, I think I'm losing my job. 302 00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:53,740 I'm like, what are you talking about? 303 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Why? 304 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:55,220 What's going on? 305 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Well, I'm about. 306 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:57,420 Okay, apply your empire. 307 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,860 I can't pay attention for you, okay? 308 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,280 You wouldn't even have a public loan. 309 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,200 I don't even have a public loan. 310 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,140 If you don't, you can actually ask the thing. 311 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,200 So you would never... 312 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,740 You wouldn't even have a public loan. 313 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:09,140 You wouldn't even have a public loan in any way. 314 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,200 That's your asset. 315 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,080 That's your asset. 316 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,160 That's your asset. 317 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,240 To even discuss it. 318 00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:15,880 So when you say you won't even hold a public loan here, you can tell a graphic 319 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:25,220 that you will not pierce the tax cap, which is fine, that you can do that. But if you say you're not going to pierce the tax cap, then you have to look at the consequences of that. 320 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:42,180 And the consequence of that is with very small cuts to do to stay under the tax cap and also there's massive impact out in real world, where you have no seasonal employees, you have no part time employees, you have no temporary employees, and you've cut materials down to a bare minimum. 321 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:51,580 And what that means is on the seasonal side, which again, they're relatively low cost and payroll for seasonal pay. 322 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:57,480 You're talking lifeguards, camp counselors, you're talking folks that work at the golf course. 323 00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:06,180 These are low amounts of the payroll, but they have a huge impact on life out in town. 324 00:24:06,180 --> 00:24:08,920 But we have to cut them first for the contract. 325 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,500 So you cut those, but it doesn't move the needle far enough. 326 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:17,220 So you have to keep cutting and cutting and you have a massive impact 327 00:24:17,220 --> 00:24:20,660 for a very little gains on the budget. 328 00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:22,440 You have massive impact out of the hand. 329 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:27,720 And that's why I said it's absurd to even think about staying under the tax cap this year. 330 00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:31,520 But that's a good question. Why is this the first time 331 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,200 that as a board of directors, essentially, that's the first time I'm hearing about what we're 332 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960 staring down right now. 333 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,140 I mean, you've been the CFO for five years. 334 00:24:43,460 --> 00:24:47,660 And I've been saying that we're likely going to pierce the tax gap I've said that for three 335 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:48,960 years now in a row. 336 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:52,680 Okay. 337 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:59,180 And just a hundred hundred point about how many I don't subscribe to a low bar for public hearing. 338 00:24:59,600 --> 00:24:59,980 I actually... 339 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:14,160 This is my own personal voice. If you feel that, as a town board member, when we schedule a public hearing, we're sending out a signal to the residents to the shareholder. That something is right and potentially ready to go. 340 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,700 Well, I disagree completely. 341 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,540 I don't think the low bar is right. 342 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,560 We're either, but that's the general number. 343 00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:23,180 I understand. 344 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:24,520 I understand why. 345 00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:31,020 I think the public to let them hear what's going on before any decisions are made. 346 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,720 So I think the public here is important. 347 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,300 But we can agree to disagree on the point. 348 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,040 Why not five? 349 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,260 I agree. 350 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:36,820 Okay. 351 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,720 And I'm a fire fire, actually. 352 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,140 The reason that I was going to put a good note on the hearing. 353 00:25:44,140 --> 00:25:49,320 and it's a piece of text that is, I wanted the public presentation first, so that's why I 354 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,180 as a postponate. 355 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,160 Right, but I also asked all the school that procedurally we couldn't have the presentation 356 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,820 as we clearly voted on it, and then some of you were. 357 00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:02,200 So just, like, no, but the truth is, that's exactly what I wanted all along. 358 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,020 So I never said I wouldn't vote to pierce the text that ever, but once what I said was, 359 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,300 I will not take that moment, so I think that the public has been properly informed 360 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,180 about what we're thinking of doing with their tax dollars, 361 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:18,040 why it's so challenging, what we can cut 362 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,740 and what we've got so we can't. 363 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520 And then I'm just going to call it all in the second floor. 364 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:25,220 All right, whoa. 365 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,900 And then you can ask my guess that things we can cut thanks to. 366 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:29,100 So what did I learn? 367 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,980 So just looking at the sheet of paper that you've got, 368 00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:35,680 a couple of ideas that were thrown out there. 369 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:38,460 We had, we'll go through the resolution number one. 370 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,380 These were, these were ideas that were put on the table. 371 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:52,320 So you're looking at a resolution for half the funding for outside agencies. 372 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:58,880 Again, you want to save $388,000 doing that. 373 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,680 The Result 2 would be the funding all appointed vacancies. 374 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320 That's we talked about that already. 375 00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:09,320 reducing the open space fund by a million dollars. 376 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,720 You cut it from, currently it's at 1.5 million annually. 377 00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:16,120 Cut it down to 500,000. 378 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,660 Removing funding for lead bags, that's a $300,000 savings. 379 00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:27,620 The million dollars was my adjustment that I just put in, you know, adding, you know, 380 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,120 adding that million dollars into the refuse fund. 381 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,800 We welcome the throw resolution back at me saying you're removing that. 382 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:44,420 And then the bottom of the 300,000 is, again, that was the existing 100,000 plus the 200,000 that I added in for total 300,000 again. 383 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,180 You can put a resolution in, removing that for special events. 384 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:53,820 So those are just some of the ideas that they're put out there as for illustration. 385 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,940 You can add as many more of them as you like. 386 00:27:57,940 --> 00:28:05,110 You can, I know you're talking about fees earlier, you can add in just the fee revenue as well. 387 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:14,430 But as far as what is important to the board as a whole, where we're going to spend the town's money, 388 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:21,410 those are policy decisions that, as a group we can decide on, what's important, 389 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:24,970 what's more important than other things, what's most important, what's least important. 390 00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:33,770 So, that's, you know, I would say that leaf bags, you know, again, I, I, I don't know. 391 00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:35,010 I don't know. 392 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:35,230 I don't know. 393 00:28:36,330 --> 00:28:37,830 No, but I, you know what I mean? 394 00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:39,330 Because it's my time, how before. 395 00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:41,850 What do you, I, I have, you know, listen, I, 396 00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:48,880 it's, it's something that, it was one of the first questions I had, 397 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,480 when it was in the town council, because leaf bags, okay. 398 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,960 But there's, there's a practice side to it as well, and it's not necessarily a 300,000, 399 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,700 It costs the town free of $1,000 to provide the leaf bags. 400 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,220 But then if we take that away, the leaves don't go away. 401 00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:04,280 The leaves are still there. 402 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,940 So what winds up happening is the residents really 403 00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:09,280 that blood leaves into rake the leaves. 404 00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:10,320 That's the issue. 405 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:14,100 Yeah. 406 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,640 The leaves will suddenly wind up in the roadway in front of their house. 407 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,600 And in addition to that, those leaves will be put into ordinary gardens. 408 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,560 So just put them in and put them out with their regular garbage. 409 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:31,400 So what happens now with those is they get sent to and believe. 410 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Power Crush. 411 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:33,000 Yeah. 412 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,100 Mr. Clark, excuse that power Crush? 413 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,980 So they recycle. 414 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:37,720 Yeah. 415 00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:38,900 I should go to the Omni. 416 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:40,120 I'll leave. 417 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,260 Okay. 418 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,160 So those leave the leaves get put in the leaf bags that go to a separate garbage stream, 419 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,680 which goes to a split with the Omni. 420 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:52,520 Omni. 421 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:59,480 And we they take those leads and turn it to the mulch and probably sell them back to us as well, you know, throw or you know 422 00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:25,580 But motion, your landscaping. But the point is it's taken out of the regular garbage stream, which, again, you can, the cost of collecting that garbage is either going to be collected through, leaf bags are collected at curbside waste. And I believe we're going to be paying more through curbside waste than we would for leaf bags. So again, it's a $300,000 top line savings of not buying those leaf bags. 423 00:30:25,580 --> 00:30:27,580 I think plastic in your face, by the way. 424 00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:28,620 Yeah, okay. 425 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,060 So, it looks like this. 426 00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:31,620 It looks like we're going to have a plastic bag, 427 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,060 something we'll need to see your cycles. 428 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,080 And now you have all this plastic bags. 429 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160 It's not, but we don't have any less things. 430 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,000 We have this by the way. 431 00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:41,300 We don't need to have a plastic bag. 432 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600 But they're really nice, but it's not that easy. 433 00:30:43,820 --> 00:30:47,660 All the other words are, but look, my whole face is just around. 434 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:49,120 I can carry on with that. 435 00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:50,920 Yeah, I've got that up from my health, right? 436 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Well, that's fine. 437 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,240 Again, not saying we don't do it. 438 00:30:53,380 --> 00:30:54,920 I'm just saying that's like this. 439 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,260 Yeah, there's a ripple effect on all these things. 440 00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:04,440 I think truth believe I would hold most people would be responsible enough and I know, you know. 441 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,300 If we don't want to regulate people of regular people that the truth matters, some people are going to do wrong things. 442 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,520 If you don't sound too good right thing, but in this case, I'm going to ask her for community. 443 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:15,680 It's just a mess. 444 00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:16,760 It's just a mess. 445 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,380 So now I don't have her, I'm sorry. 446 00:31:18,740 --> 00:31:19,860 You know, we can't support her. 447 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:20,900 It's this fight. 448 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,820 But doesn't you usually reflect your needs and it's not so bad. 449 00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:25,880 That's what I would say. 450 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,120 So we can take a second and we can take comments. 451 00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,780 It's a workshop and I'm meeting on sorry. 452 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,960 I'll talk to you after. 453 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:40,220 So anyway, these six resolutions were put in there as examples. 454 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Yeah, right. 455 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,040 We can adjust up and downwards. 456 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:46,020 It's now policy. 457 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:48,940 And you know, I don't care. 458 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:51,200 I said to the last time, Jenny, I said to the line, 459 00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:53,580 by line, things you have ideas for cuts for, 460 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:55,020 I'm happy to do it. 461 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:57,540 One of the things we have to balance it without BC2 462 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:00,580 is both the services we offer, community, 463 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,380 which make this a place people want to live, 464 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640 which make for our house values go up. 465 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:07,980 We don't have lifeguards, 466 00:32:08,420 --> 00:32:10,580 then we don't collect money for beach passes. 467 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,940 So there's a lot of things we have to look at. 468 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,980 The SFO fund we used, some of that money, 469 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:18,460 as I understand, they're also for the parking group 470 00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:24,360 for how beautiful of parks are. So maybe there's a way to cut it, but maybe it's not 471 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,020 five from 1,000, and maybe this is a different number we use, but that's something that 472 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:33,020 we can talk about also. Yeah, no, when I start to have a conversation, because as far as I know, 473 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,340 the open space fund is again, doing a private, loving, private, and changing a lot of that. 474 00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:45,780 But at my mistaken thinking that the open space fund, I've already had $12 million in the 475 00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:51,060 that's unspense and unallocated because if that's the case then for one year we skip 476 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,060 that I mean obviously I thought that I'm not taking money from that. Why do you think 477 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,860 I have a question about that year? You're Mark Stove? No, I'm Mark Stove? No, I'm Mark Stove. 478 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,540 And I spoke to one about it. What do you think of it? 479 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:07,040 What happens is the only space committee makes recommendations right now for an annual basis 480 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,860 as to how it did be of the money. 481 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,960 Okay. And right now the money that gets used up to most is the proper improvement. 482 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:22,000 because part of the commitment is amazing and expensive, but the demand from the public for the 483 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,500 part of the commitment is very significant. Most of the money that is sitting right now in the 484 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:32,880 US program is sitting there for open space acquisitions. That doesn't mean that you don't have 485 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,080 to write as a board to look at that and say, you know what, next year we're going to move some of 486 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,160 from open space, put it in the floor. 487 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,580 And then maybe like she said, don't collect a lot of money. 488 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,580 And this is a past practice. 489 00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:48,980 That's what has it done in his past. 490 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:54,000 On the open space acquisition fund is in swirling away the money. 491 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,100 So they make a big purchase because typically, 492 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,720 one year's worth of open space money is not going to buy one. 493 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,280 So you see years. 494 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:07,480 It's pretty old here and there's so many pieces of funding, I thought it was right there. 495 00:34:07,580 --> 00:34:10,660 No, no, it was in there because there's a million things I don't have there. 496 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:20,200 So I also think to, in educating the public too, helping us to see just the basic of this idea 497 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,760 of how this impacts everybody. 498 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,360 So we have journalists to do it to show a task. 499 00:34:26,740 --> 00:34:29,200 So I just want to present that to everybody. 500 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,880 Just give you a quick idea. 501 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,680 So this is an average text that I have highlighted by the library. 502 00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:42,600 I highlighted the line at the town where it has a thaw ring over, which is, this is a 503 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,400 property that's located outside of the village. 504 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,840 So this is a text where it has our general fun, part-town, street lighting, open spaces that 505 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,900 are included in this, and then a record statistic. 506 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000 The total town tax that's built is $1600. 507 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,420 you like 508 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:10,660 15% increase with people's prisoners of $7 dollars for $25 dollars and $60 per cent of them off to the tax bill. 509 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,420 So this tax bill that comes to $14,000. 510 00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:18,320 Only $1,600,000. Only $1,600. 511 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,800 Only $1,000. That you guys have authority. 512 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,260 And I don't know that most people understand that that's the only portion of the bill that was 513 00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:32,740 talking about, it's not, it's not, it's not the 20th, you know, I met with a very smart lawyer 514 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:38,840 friend of mine yesterday who had no idea that the increase of what you're talking about was an 515 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,740 unheard entire bill. And I don't think a lot of people understand that. So the only portion 516 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:48,580 of the bill that's affected is the 1600. I'm not saying I'm not trying to minimize, I'm just, 517 00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:54,260 want to make sure that everybody understands that and I think it's important to understand it. 518 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,920 And I brought that up last time. I'm $27,000 a sapper. It feels 2300 is the town. 519 00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:05,800 Yeah. Well, that's it. Our logos at the top of the bill and the Jillian Beckham collects those. 520 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,760 How does it for the full amount? And it all goes to Jillian. 521 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,120 Right. 522 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,060 I mean, what are you doing, Jillian? 523 00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:18,540 All right, I'm going to correct you from one, but I think you'd be. 524 00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:23,460 Gillian got from our taxes to collect over, I think, $2 billion in two parts. 525 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,520 The tax warrant is over $0.00. That's about 1.3. 526 00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:36,180 So that's the gross amount collected. We do not get to keep that money. 527 00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:42,020 It gets parceled out around the county into all the other tax and districts in the school district, 528 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:47,080 the police department and all the line items that you see in the tax bill. 529 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,060 It gets broken up to all of them. 530 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:57,240 And the town gets to keep those portions that are pound or the highway tax or the lighting district. 531 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:04,860 Those are the portions that we keep, which is just a fraction of any individual woman's tax bill. 532 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:14,520 Even though, again, we, we get tagged with it because the town of Huntington is at the top of the bill and the town of Huntington tax receivers is the one that collects the money. 533 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,840 But we don't get to keep all of it, so. 534 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:28,440 And looking at these, you know, potential, you know, even reducing the funding for our eight-to-aids, you know, I would love to have some idea of how that's going to affect that. 535 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,520 That's going to be one actually that I would argue that we should back off of, frankly, 536 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:35,460 I think our outside agencies, libraries, and everything. 537 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,680 They're also going to hit with reduced revenue from other places. 538 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,400 So I would hate to see those kinds of organizations suffer because of that. 539 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,360 And I don't think that, you know, I've had a tip to reach out to them and then take out the outside. 540 00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:49,240 So I don't... 541 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:49,640 I don't think so. 542 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:50,560 I don't think so. 543 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,060 I don't think so. 544 00:37:51,060 --> 00:38:01,340 real simply and say, I am advocating and we're robbing all of you for a fully funded budget. 545 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,660 And keep in mind, just because we budget for it doesn't require us to spend it next year, 546 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:18,380 but to take not always to take this year's budget and roll it forward with what the actual cost are going to be to do that. 547 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,160 And that to me is it is a responsible, 548 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,720 physically responsible budget. 549 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,440 That means change this to yourself. 550 00:38:23,740 --> 00:38:27,180 Without those things now, if we want to put those up, 551 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,080 line out and vote on those to take them out, 552 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,900 or we don't have to do the outside agencies, 553 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,860 or we can ask for by a percentage, or all of them. 554 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,340 Whatever the case may be, those customizations, if you will. 555 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:42,860 We can do that as well. 556 00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:48,360 But that's when you're getting into one of the policies 557 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:56,160 priorities of the town. And that's what we're here to do. But what I'm advocating for right 558 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:04,120 now is to take this year's budget, roll it forward to 27, and add whatever the projected 559 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,900 increase in cost is. That's where we go. And then if we don't spend it, we decide between now 560 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:14,480 and then that we're not going to spend it on certain things. We don't. 561 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,040 Here's a question, what structural reforms are going to be 562 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480 couldn't place to ensure that we're not sitting in these seats. 563 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,300 I'm going to say, in the same time of discussion in the future. 564 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:22,180 Yeah. 565 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,700 Well, that's going to be up to the town board to decide. 566 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:26,460 I mean, that's now you're going to get the policy. 567 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640 Like, you know, yes, I'm going to cheat by Angela Officer, 568 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:33,540 but I'm also, as Dr. Bruno and I say, 569 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,540 I'm more of a prime minister than a CEO, 570 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:38,480 because my vote is equal to each event. 571 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:39,420 Okay. 572 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,300 So I don't have a veto over anything. 573 00:39:42,060 --> 00:39:42,860 I can't. 574 00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:50,600 I can only do what we collectively all five of us decide and have three votes to do, you know, so while, you know, 575 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:58,580 well, I think, yes, you know, that in title on the chief executive and title on the chief financial officer in practice. 576 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,280 Can I just jump in real quick because I want to duck down at what you said about the outside agencies? 577 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:15,860 So I have a finger on inspector. Hortime. She makes $22,000 a year. For that $22,000 a year, the town makes $47,000. 578 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:27,020 But seven groups that have been made a million dollars. These are groups like little shelter, churches, the Knights of Columbus. 579 00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:35,060 And if I lose, because she's part time, so as for the people of color contrast, if I have to fire her, 580 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:41,000 Bingo will go the way it has in most other towns. Most towns don't allow Bingo. 581 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,480 Huntington is one of the few towns that allows Bingo. Because it's a revenue gentleman. 582 00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:53,180 But that's a million dollars that these outside organizations lose for 22,000 dollars. 583 00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:55,840 No, and that's totally, this is a cost of telling you what. 584 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,080 Honey, since it's a big yellow cap, a lot of one I want. 585 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,560 Correct. 586 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,000 And you just like the kisses. 587 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,700 The kisses. 588 00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:01,480 My hand. 589 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,660 I was not looking to get rid of any of our staff. 590 00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:05,500 Absolutely. 591 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,640 You know what I want that you should have to be in. 592 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,300 No, exactly. 593 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:08,960 Actually. 594 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,680 That's why I was in the outside. 595 00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:11,520 You can see that. 596 00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:12,020 It's not. 597 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,000 I'm going to go that way. 598 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:15,200 I'm going to let your both of us. 599 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,720 But no. 600 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,160 What is under the umbrella? 601 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:18,560 I don't know. 602 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,100 Where's it? 603 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,720 Right here. 604 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:22,380 So about home full of those. 605 00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:24,160 It absolutely is one more in design. 606 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,040 It's from the museum. 607 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:26,120 What has the museum? 608 00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:28,460 It's from the museum. 609 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,240 The museum is called the Whale Museum. 610 00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:34,500 The museum is called the Graviate Boys. 611 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,620 It's one whole page. 612 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:37,620 They think it's your name. 613 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,520 Because I don't know the name of the museum right here. 614 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:41,360 Here it is. 615 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,540 That's the second whole. 616 00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:43,500 Yeah. 617 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,100 That's the reason. 618 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:46,500 It's the second part of the museum. 619 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:47,560 We're going to have a hard work. 620 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:48,080 Okay. 621 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,260 I think it's your name. 622 00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:53,220 this again, Sarah, I'm sorry, you can see these are the things that you're on in some special. 623 00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:58,580 Right, one right. And again, if you're talking about costing somebody a $22,000 job, 624 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,040 it's not going to cost us an review. Well, then that doesn't make any sense. 625 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:03,360 Right, yes. 626 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,140 Yes. 627 00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:04,640 It's going to be, yes. 628 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,800 You think about the process. 629 00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:06,700 Has it been done? 630 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,080 Has it been done? 631 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:08,840 Has it been done? 632 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:16,520 Has it been done? 633 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:17,640 Has it been done? 634 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:18,220 Has it been done? 635 00:42:18,220 --> 00:42:19,140 Has it been done? 636 00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:21,240 But we really shouldn't have had that revision of funding. 637 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,060 We may not be able to have the Pearson tax again, 638 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,400 in order to restore that funding. 639 00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:28,860 And the way that we also got to get to some things 640 00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:31,080 to think about is that when we were debudging the fund, 641 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:33,600 the supervisor has said before is that we have been using 642 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,440 our underserved reserves, we have won a lot of our projects 643 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,020 here in the South, we haven't been so forth. 644 00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:41,140 We have a snowstorm. 645 00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:44,300 Now we want to personal, but we haven't had snow for years. 646 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,100 That was the expense that was on the account work. 647 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:51,220 We used our savings instead of taking money for debt services and so forth. 648 00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:57,480 So, these are reasons that we don't know what our 20-price will look like yet. 649 00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:01,320 But as we don't do cutting S-pop partners, funding is as I used to see. 650 00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:02,660 When we say, you know what? 651 00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:05,180 These things are truly tuning it for S-pop, you know what? 652 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,740 There's money there, but we really should put more money in, so there's really no cost to arrest them. 653 00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:15,760 So, we need to do the same situation again, and we have to resort these things. 654 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:30,900 So, because I think it was worth, because that's exactly, and we've all to respect, that's how I'm bringing this up of what structural forms can we put in place, that is to the most reasonable degree of certainty, we're not sitting in this, because some of these things that came up and they didn't fall off the turn of the class. 655 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,720 You know, I worked before I was sat in the seat. 656 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,060 I worked in town walls in the earlier days. 657 00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:38,200 You know, certain things that you come down and put. 658 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,720 So that's what I'm saying. 659 00:43:39,860 --> 00:43:43,620 How can we make sure, to visible degrees, certainty, 660 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,280 that that we're not sitting and having to talk to our shareholders 661 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,100 as well as again about this. 662 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,480 So, I mean, maybe I can't do this. 663 00:43:53,620 --> 00:43:55,060 I mean, now, but I definitely... 664 00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:56,240 I know that. 665 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,920 You know, I wasn't here for this. 666 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:06,660 But this is kind of an unpacking, and this is shows the $40 of items that we had in 667 00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:11,380 appropriate for the year, and to assert that something we don't have to do with it. 668 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:19,540 So, it doesn't necessarily look at say, well, we can control salaries of contractual, we can't 669 00:44:19,540 --> 00:44:20,480 control business in crisis. 670 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,520 Well, but we can forget because that's contractual. 671 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,760 All right, but these are the things that are right, 672 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,500 structural is a class of course, I'm sorry if you have a tool. 673 00:44:32,620 --> 00:44:34,660 But that doesn't mean that we should control better. 674 00:44:35,820 --> 00:44:39,440 So whoever's come, mean again, you were in a wrong part right here. 675 00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:40,500 You don't have a problem that is. 676 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:40,880 I do. 677 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:42,780 But that's what you just mentioned. 678 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:43,320 That's the 10 on that. 679 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,880 So that's what you just mentioned. 680 00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:47,480 So John, that's exactly what I'm trying to bring to the table 681 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,800 and for us to try to figure out 682 00:44:50,180 --> 00:44:54,040 How do we need to, again, I'm kidding, it's not pretty sure, it's reasonable to be a certainty. 683 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:58,780 Budget for these things when we're forward, making sure that we're doing this, finding it like this. 684 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:25,800 So, on the begin, put up, is the motion to rise your hands, the roll up, the roll over the 19% that bleeds its account over to be budgeted for over time. We went to working in a realcy, because knowing into this next budget, that we can't utilize our fundals, our unrestricted fundals to fund these things, we have to pay for that, that's quite a question. 685 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,080 So you know, it seems very odd, and I know that $16.60, 686 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,080 90% of them. 687 00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:31,980 You're talking about, it's actually a homeowner. 688 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,860 Money's money. 689 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,120 But if you dollars, it's paying that back. 690 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,440 You're talking about, because if you look at the court, it's based by now, 691 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,940 because it will wish you. 692 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:41,880 You're resin, and our resin is paying $16. 693 00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:43,560 This is because it's a program. 694 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,180 But if you're talking, you're going to have to pay. 695 00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:47,720 And you say there's, you're going to have to pay back. 696 00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:48,680 You'll be aware of it, too. 697 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,240 You have it. 698 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,760 Based on the laws, I'm not going to do it. 699 00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:51,160 Pretty fair. 700 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:52,460 So there's a homeowner. 701 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,860 It may not have it. 702 00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:58,060 I think for some homeowners, if we see negligible, the fair bloodler homeowners, I would think 703 00:45:58,060 --> 00:46:00,200 to go to be a make or break, I don't know. 704 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,640 I think there are homeowners, but in the Huntington that even a small amount of dollars is 705 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,340 going to affect fair budget in a profound way. 706 00:46:10,420 --> 00:46:15,160 But as one of the best things, the first thing, the way to be budget is counter everything. 707 00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:21,360 So if we don't, and the prescription things, and they're on the road, they're unforeseen things. 708 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:27,440 Again, we can't utilize funds, we only have to sort out a lot of things we've got to ask you. 709 00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:35,420 And just to be clear on our reserves, while we say we've paid it down, we've taken out of our reserves. 710 00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:39,860 We're still, I think it's 61 million in reserve funds in total. 711 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:50,360 We still have a very healthy reserve balance, but it gets to a point where we're... 712 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,840 From an operational standpoint, you get the lower line of comfort. 713 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,320 And quite frankly, there are already agencies have certain reserves. 714 00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:00,600 They want to see that we have for town of the size. 715 00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:05,820 But when you look at one big storm, 716 00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:09,980 by Isaiah, I think that was about eight million dollars. 717 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,100 Well, they're starting to put down the spot there. 718 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,840 But that was a huge number to the town. 719 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:28,760 You know, we came out of nowhere, and so while we said, you know, we have $25 million in reserve and this account that could disappear very, very quickly with one good, you know, two good storms that were done. 720 00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:37,840 So yeah, so yeah, so, you know, so, well, you know what, we brought our reserves down, we haven't depleted them, I just want to make that point. 721 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:46,360 We're at a point now where it's like, okay, I'm not comfortable to continue to pay as you go and pay cash for improvements around the town. 722 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:54,820 I don't want to get the reserves in the fact that I think the budget that I'm proposing is replenishing those reserves. 723 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,780 But anyway, that's... 724 00:47:56,780 --> 00:48:02,220 Isn't it the case that movies actually looked at all this and they're not much happy about the reserves we've been doing? 725 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,820 Is it? 726 00:48:02,820 --> 00:48:04,420 And our bond really could be getting affected? 727 00:48:04,780 --> 00:48:05,920 Yeah, we go much lower. 728 00:48:06,460 --> 00:48:09,980 We're at that line where we continue to deplete reserves. 729 00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:15,280 We've got the point now where our reserve funds are about as low as they want to see them. 730 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:18,560 Because other than that, we'd become a little bit of a threat risk. 731 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,520 But we're not. 732 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,260 We still have a AAA bomb rating this time. 733 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,780 What's our timeline for like, you know, on the new? 734 00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:25,180 I don't know. 735 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,820 When do we need to vote on piercing the tax cap? 736 00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:29,360 So we need to do that. 737 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,160 How are we? 738 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,340 Like moving forward? 739 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,060 Because I know there was a question about a meeting, 740 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:34,360 and I told her, which I'm sorry. 741 00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:35,520 I haven't responded to yet. 742 00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:39,260 No, so I can turn it into work, actually. 743 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,620 Anybody can correct that. 744 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:41,440 I have the dates on. 745 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,280 So by September 30th, 746 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,420 Yes, I have to present a preliminary budget, you have a public meeting to all of you 747 00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:57,580 To me and I give it to the clerk and the clerk gives it to you 748 00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:02,920 So and that has to so I actually presented to the clerk by September 30th and then from September 30th 749 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,880 He has five days of leaves to present it to each of you and then between September look 750 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:18,940 We'll go back to October 5th, okay, if it goes all five days, so from October 5th until November 20th, 751 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,020 which is the last final day for state law that can have an adopted final budget. 752 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:30,200 But realistically we do it, the first, we have scheduled public meetings the first week in November, 753 00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:35,260 which is when we go through our budget and we'll make amendments and adopt it. 754 00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:42,900 But those are the hard dates are September 30th and five days to September 30th. 755 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,460 I give it to the clerk. 756 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,240 You will get it. 757 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:46,840 It's same second. 758 00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:48,380 Yeah, I'm going to have a first. 759 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:48,920 I'm going to have a first. 760 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,380 I'm going to have a first. 761 00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:50,280 So where is the first? 762 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,300 Yes. 763 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,040 So we will be moving on the center. 764 00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:54,100 I'm coming to the center. 765 00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:57,500 No, but here's a practical matter. 766 00:49:58,420 --> 00:49:59,980 If we don't vote, it appears to be tough. 767 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,360 The last four hours, there's at least eight or ten days of work that has to go into actually preparing the act of budget. 768 00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:21,620 Ministerial work of preparing the budget so it's not like we can say on September 29. Okay, prepare this budget because there's so many cascading spreadsheets that have to put together. 769 00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:25,960 You know, Sabrino have a part of that. 770 00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:36,620 So, as a practical matter, that's why we're looking at September 15th at the board meeting, 771 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,860 put a resolution on to say, okay, Pierce attacks, Aberdon Pierce attacks. 772 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,420 If we don't hear, if the vote does not go through to Pierce attacks, that by law, 773 00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:47,800 I have to present a budget that doesn't Pierce attacks. 774 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,360 Right. 775 00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:50,660 No, I understand that. 776 00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:51,560 And that's... 777 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:51,940 And that's... 778 00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:52,240 Yeah. 779 00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:53,420 Yeah. 780 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,640 And then... 781 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,100 That has to be presented at some September 15th, so like... 782 00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:58,960 No, no, no. 783 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,200 It has to be... 784 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,620 By September 30th. 785 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,920 But the only schedule meeting, I mean... 786 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,480 We could... 787 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:04,960 I mean, if we... 788 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,140 If it doesn't go at September, we didn't schedule meeting on the... 789 00:51:08,140 --> 00:51:11,280 Special meeting on the 16th, 17th, 18th, all the way through the... 790 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:11,820 The 30th. 791 00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:12,500 And... 792 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:12,680 Right. 793 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,100 You know. 794 00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:20,260 And just with a drink, we're going to put it at the next upcoming meeting or if we were scheduling an extra meeting. 795 00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:22,720 You can do it right now if you'd like. 796 00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:23,980 No, it's good, all right. 797 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,040 But again, the first vote is not a vote on the budget itself. 798 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:35,100 It's just a yes note to actually prepare a budget that exceeds the tax cap. 799 00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:36,800 That's the step one. 800 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:48,660 And then once that is done, then I can, I say, I think, control is also, do the happy lifting 801 00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:49,300 of actually. 802 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,240 So we're able to do the happy lifting of actually getting the spreadsheets together, getting 803 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:59,960 producing a budget that you actually need to familiar with. 804 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:11,140 So, that's the rough time when, again, in terms of putting together special meetings that we can do that on me, I think it's about 48 hours notice. 805 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960 Yeah, 48 hours notice, so that's the... 806 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,760 Try not to do that. 807 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,780 Yeah, actually, because I think it's a fairly important point of why we're sitting here. 808 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,140 And it doesn't matter if it doesn't, it doesn't. 809 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,260 No, it's that. 810 00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:29,300 because what the will be, it gets posted on the website and what we have to do is notify 811 00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:31,220 the one paper of record. 812 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:33,960 So. 813 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,020 Okay. 814 00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:35,700 So that's not what they'll do. 815 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,680 That's all, that's all. 816 00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:38,000 That's all. 817 00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:39,980 Alright, again, all right. 818 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,880 This is not the perfect, but again, the value of self with the controllers office. 819 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080 Any of the directors, any of the deputy. 820 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,140 Yeah, so. 821 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,200 Open, open. 822 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,860 If I can do the systems, I'll be happy to do it. 823 00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:52,100 Good. 824 00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:57,060 Yeah, John Clark, or director of environmental waste management. 825 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,420 I don't mind what it is, probably. 826 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:07,420 In my prior life, I was like, you know, what I did overrated with this. 827 00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:11,380 I can tell you that one of the things that it believes in reality, 828 00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:13,280 we have large contracts. 829 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,260 And we have extensions to each contract. 830 00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:21,060 We try to manage a budget in that 2% into an 1%. 831 00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:27,540 and you have escalation causes that are based on various CPI indexes, like we do the 832 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:28,040 grid work. 833 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,460 Like we do with our current side of collections, and those renewals come in and in 834 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:37,180 more than half, we're five percent on a CPI index. 835 00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:43,660 You have to have operating expenses that increase, you have 33 million dollar budget in the 836 00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:51,580 report about itself, you go up 5% in that sort of list of significant peace of the total increase 837 00:53:51,580 --> 00:53:52,560 of the capital budget. 838 00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:58,040 So, you know how that, you have the highest, I think, the inflation rate that we've had 839 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,820 in the last few years, I'm going to try to improve our infrastructure. 840 00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:10,100 We have access, this extreme plan is probably a $100 million asset, believe it or not. 841 00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:11,880 That's not the replacement cost. 842 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,660 That's the value of the asset. 843 00:54:14,060 --> 00:54:25,860 When you're managing capital assets, there are percentages that you need to contribute every year to that asset to maintain it, so that you're not reacting to emergency situations. 844 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:33,380 So you're maintaining the asset, that's two and a half to three percent on any capital asset that's two and a half to three million dollars a year. 845 00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:38,000 We're not spending that at the point, we're trying to keep it up and control the back of the matters. 846 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:45,360 As those assets grown about you, the annual expenses that you have to incur, you maintain that asset, increases. 847 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,940 And then the other thing is, let go of it. 848 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:53,400 I'm a Christian at a great little world. The other side of the coin is, and we look at it, we have the remedial as well. 849 00:54:53,860 --> 00:54:59,880 When you have to go in there to replace aging and destruction, you have to find and support your bonds. 850 00:55:00,590 --> 00:55:09,650 We should log into the patient's own, you know, the cost of the principal interest repayment every year, goes into your actual operating class. 851 00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:24,710 What used to be 10% and bring one more district, quickly became 20%. We had a 10 million dollar budget, but 2 million dollars, that was basically financing debt on projects that we had to take on, and the same thing happened to the council. 852 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:30,550 So it's not an easy environment, I respect everything that the hotel board does, because 853 00:55:30,550 --> 00:55:31,570 it really is tough. 854 00:55:31,730 --> 00:55:32,610 I mean, it's a corporation. 855 00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:33,710 It's a large corporation. 856 00:55:34,670 --> 00:55:40,690 When you're looking at 260 million dollars, it's a lot of those outside factors that we really 857 00:55:40,690 --> 00:55:45,290 don't have like control over CPI increases that are based on contract renewal. 858 00:55:45,790 --> 00:55:48,230 It's also possible that we do the best of time. 859 00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:50,610 Thank you. 860 00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:51,790 Thank you. 861 00:55:51,790 --> 00:55:51,910 Thank you. 862 00:55:52,210 --> 00:55:52,810 All right. 863 00:55:52,810 --> 00:55:55,810 And then we also start working. 864 00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:58,930 And motion close. 865 00:55:59,350 --> 00:56:00,010 We pull that. 866 00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:02,350 I'll just send that to me. 867 00:56:02,790 --> 00:56:04,950 We question your ability to pull that. 868 00:56:06,050 --> 00:56:06,070 Me. 869 00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:08,210 We're at the end of the year. 870 00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:09,250 That's that. 871 00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:11,270 So if you have a specific relationship, 872 00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:13,190 a doctor or a doctor or a little kid, 873 00:56:13,330 --> 00:56:15,630 so you're going to push it to five in a second. 874 00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:16,170 Okay. 875 00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:17,130 That's the way to let us know. 876 00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:18,590 And then if you need, 877 00:56:18,610 --> 00:56:20,350 there's a five in our left hand. 878 00:56:20,350 --> 00:56:22,910 You can pay the TTA and you can pay whatever it is. 879 00:56:23,050 --> 00:56:24,050 So you can pay it for yourself. 880 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:24,730 Okay. 881 00:56:25,850 --> 00:56:26,150 All right. 882 00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:26,550 All right. 883 00:56:26,550 --> 00:56:26,750 All right. 884 00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:26,830 All right. 885 00:56:27,210 --> 00:56:27,270 All right. 886 00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:27,930 All right. 887 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:33,990 I can buzz in and buzz out. 888 00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:35,610 Please pay for this budget. 889 00:56:36,350 --> 00:56:38,370 You know, looks like we. 890 00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:39,910 It looks like we're supposed to pay for this. 891 00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:40,170 Okay. 892 00:56:40,170 --> 00:56:41,190 Give it a good. 893 00:56:41,630 --> 00:56:41,950 Okay. 894 00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:42,670 Okay. 895 00:56:42,670 --> 00:56:43,870 So he then turns around. 896 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:45,190 He walks down the line. 897 00:56:45,310 --> 00:56:46,130 He gives it everybody else. 898 00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:47,990 I will read there. 899 00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:50,270 The only thing that caught my sister's out. 900 00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:53,090 surgery, so something goes wrong? 901 00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:54,390 Nothing's wrong. 902 00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:55,890 All right. 903 00:56:55,890 --> 00:56:56,030 I love you. 904 00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:57,050 I love you. 905 00:56:57,530 --> 00:56:57,890 I love you. 906 00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:58,130 I love you. 907 00:56:58,630 --> 00:57:01,010 All right. 908 00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:02,470 Most of the girls in the world. 909 00:57:02,570 --> 00:57:02,810 Second. 910 00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:03,630 All the papers. 911 00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:05,170 Any vote? 912 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:05,930 All right. 913 00:57:06,350 --> 00:57:06,770 Good job.