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[1:04] And we'll now call to order the regular council meeting for Wednesday.
[1:12] Here.
[1:17] Here.
[1:19] Here. Here.
[1:19] Now we have the pledge and I would like to ask Chief Dan Washington to do this in the pledge if you would like.
[1:24] Thank you.
[1:31] Thank you.
[1:31] Thanks for your attention.
[1:32] I'm very proud of you.
[1:34] I think we can start playing.
[1:36] I think it's just a flag.
[1:38] I think I have to say it's a flag.
[1:40] I'm actually really proud of it.
[1:42] I've worked with Santa.
[1:43] I'm a nation.
[1:44] Under your eye.
[1:46] And this is what we're looking for.
[1:47] We're looking for some justice for all of you.
[1:49] Thank you, dad.
[1:55] Our next item is Public Congress on Item Step 1.
[1:59] Sorry.
[1:59] On the next item is public comments on any items that are not on this evening's agenda, and I believe we have the High Sierra Energy Foundation first.
[2:11] Only because we stepped up your first.
[2:13] We are really excited, it's almost Christmas, it's sort of trying to snow and we are celebrating
[2:22] our really almost ninth year, nine and a half years working with the town.
[2:28] I say energy foundation came out of the renewable energy task force in 2004.
[2:33] We started in 2005 and over the last several years through our efforts to get more energy efficiency
[2:40] primarily. We have saved literally a couple of million kilowatt hours, which is real money.
[2:47] All the impacts that has on the environment as well. Plus, our emphasis has been the culture
[2:54] of energy efficiency. Pamela, staying in the works with me, and works very much on boots
[3:00] on the ground, helps us with that culture. We were very fortunate a couple of months ago, we got
[3:06] grant from energy upgrade California, which is an initiative funded by investor-owned utilities
[3:13] under the auspices of the California Public Utilities Commission.
[3:17] Finally, we've got the grant that Eastern Sarah is we have been building the culture of energy
[3:22] efficiency.
[3:24] And we're just in a couple minutes we have, we'll just give you a quick overview of what
[3:28] the theme is for right now and December.
[3:31] But if one of the panelists share a little bit of the detail and the kind of things we do,
[3:35] We were at the pilot for a couple of months ago.
[3:38] The other kinds of things we've been doing.
[3:41] Good evening.
[3:43] So throughout the Grand Tourist, which is about a year,
[3:46] we do several events and presentations.
[3:49] And this month's campaign is Cold Weather Prep
[3:53] and Holiday LED lighting.
[3:56] We've given you brochures and there's also a bunch of them
[3:59] in the back of the room available for anyone who wants them.
[4:03] We also, to draw attendees and kids and participants to our event booths, we have a quiz wheel.
[4:12] And the questions are based on what are conservation energy efficiency and we give away prizes such as your tip wheels and your screen clearance.
[4:24] I will also have some more prizes coming up.
[4:27] So it's a really, really fun, great program.
[4:31] We teach the community simple steps and tips about energy
[4:33] efficiency, water conservation.
[4:36] And the program is about keeping California gold.
[4:40] And that's it.
[4:40] Thank you.
[4:41] Thank you.
[4:43] And energy, energy efficiency,
[4:46] you can meet a very significant portion
[4:48] of our demand in the state.
[4:50] It's not as pretty or as photogenic as some of the real
[4:54] projects, but it's very cost effective. And as I often
[4:57] ridden, we can find a way to have a safe curl at our as a
[5:01] federal law, but we'll be making real progress.
[5:04] Do I go a couple of these slides?
[5:08] And thank you very much, Amy, for letting us get you our
[5:11] slides in advance. It says, this is, this is the start from
[5:15] the state here in Mammoth, based on the analysis we did a
[5:17] few years ago. It's about, it's close to 55% of our energy
[5:23] So all of these ideas that we talked about, very simple, photos, upgrading, looking for
[5:31] early weeks, that's not on there as a program or a formative formative step, which has a big
[5:37] impact, for example, if you like it cool at night, it's easy to set it at 58 rather than 60,
[5:43] and that says cumulative, a lot of energy, and another example of any of you remember Bob Bradbury
[5:50] work for the mountains. He was their gift act of energy person. He told me again in their
[5:55] prime over the years the equivalent of a three by three foot hole of just where a cold
[6:00] air was coming at. So you can have a big impact on your health and these are the simple kind
[6:05] of things and it was really our power out like this. This is what we've been doing for years
[6:09] with our ads on the radio. The Diddy and I are talking about raising people's awareness
[6:17] and then
[6:18] to get more specific and doing the next year, which is going to be more money available to
[6:23] help young learners do this, emphasis on getting called, like contractors, the technicalities
[6:28] up here, those are the sort of the minimum installation levels. We have found another work
[6:34] we've done, there's a tremendous amount of benefit for increasing the inflation year, because
[6:41] so much of our energy goes through heat. But unless we know, in terms of opening the
[6:47] getting that solar load alone, we just are trying to make this message as we go out and talk
[6:53] to people and often we'll get the question, well, what kind of renewables should I get?
[6:57] Do you like the solar when and the answer we try today is energy efficiency, it's the best
[7:03] we know. But thank you very much for the opportunity to forget anything, ma'am.
[7:09] Oh, my gosh, you know, we have been dragged into the 21st century and have like us on Facebook and I guess we do something on Twitter as well, but that's that's increasing our explosions very very helpful.
[7:28] Any questions?
[7:31] Thank you.
[7:32] Thank you.
[7:32] Thank you.
[7:36] Thank you.
[7:51] sneaking in now because that my daughter's violin concert started 10 minutes ago.
[7:58] I just want to make sure I ask the people business license for newer feet, be re-agendized.
[8:04] I know it wasn't agendaized for this meeting, but I want some sort of assurance that it will be
[8:08] agendaized in January. And then second of all, you know, obviously I believe that tax hikes should be
[8:15] subject to public debate and not hidden in the gender bills. Thank you.
[8:29] Town Council, Town Manager, I'm more in McLean. I want to talk about the
[8:36] T-bit of disestablishment period that's supposed to take place annually. Recently,
[8:43] Mammoth Lakes tours and gave a nice presentation of what they've done over the years,
[8:48] over the year, and with that, according to the Property and Business Improvement District Laws of 1994,
[8:57] which you know, Bevereens, the Debid and State California,
[9:02] and only the assesses, the people who are being assessed by Debid are allowed to approach a
[9:13] establishment for cause. And that is actually in the management district plan. What I would
[9:20] like to comment on is I'd like to encourage town council or staff to be proactive in letting
[9:26] the assesses know that they have the ability to do this for 30 days annually. I know that
[9:34] returns are sent out monthly and various other communications are sent out to the assesses,
[9:39] but I'd also encourage the town to be proactive
[9:42] in letting the assessors know that they also have rights
[9:46] to approach disestablishment.
[9:50] Thank you very much.
[9:51] Any questions?
[10:01] I mean, my name is Wigash, and I'm here with the builder.
[10:05] I got out of the drain and he is now 16 months old.
[10:09] I'm here for two reasons.
[10:12] Our town is a dog friendly town, but there is no rules
[10:15] and regulations.
[10:17] We need to have an animal control officer.
[10:19] Um, Gilbert has been attacked twice now. I've told you that. I am upset with myself that I did not make a police report on it.
[10:28] It is very important to do this because these dogs, one time, congruent it for them.
[10:33] It could stop him from doing his job. What I do is all volunteer. I pay for everything. He's not my dog.
[10:39] He comes from San Rafael, the guy dog school up there. Then he goes back up there with the professionals training.
[10:44] And they are certified by state of California's dog trainers.
[10:50] And a few things I wanted to mention to you
[10:53] was there are laws and regulations on some of the stuff
[10:56] about attacking guidelines.
[10:59] Anyone who intentionally interferes with the use of a guide dog
[11:02] by harnessing or by harassing or obstructing his guilty
[11:06] of a misdemeanor, punishable by six months of jail
[11:09] or a fine of not less than $1,500.
[11:12] I tell me it's to get a board on this. There are way too many dogs out there. They all look at
[11:17] the wishes out. These guys, you do not speak to them. You do not talk to them. You do not touch them.
[11:22] You do not pet them. You do not feed them. They have a job to do to somebody who is disabled. They are
[11:29] their eyes. They are their arms. They are their legs. And when everybody else, people get mad at me
[11:35] because I don't like their dogs, like my dog. They understand this is a working dog. It's not a pet.
[11:42] Anyone who intentionally causes entry or deaths to a service dog is guilty of a misdemeanor
[11:47] punishable by up to a year jail and a fine of 10,000 plus restitution.
[11:53] I wish I would have made it compliant on those two people.
[11:56] One person told me that the bill would probably pretty much deserve it because he has to learn
[12:00] how to do this when he gets older.
[12:02] I'm sorry it doesn't work that way.
[12:06] And from what I looked on many of the websites in California, it is a misdemeanor to
[12:12] pass your dog off as a service dog, it's punishable in prison and or in fines.
[12:19] People don't understand that.
[12:20] We need to have rules.
[12:22] I've had many restaurants to come up here and ask me to come and speak to New York
[12:27] babe company.
[12:28] Was one of them, the people that worked there.
[12:30] Somebody had a service dog and they put it on the table and they let it eat on the table.
[12:34] We have health loss in this town. People do not understand. You cannot bring a regular dog into a business and let it eat off a table.
[12:43] I've mentioned to the person that works there that to tell the people next time you do have health loss and that it's not a good thing to do that.
[12:51] Your dog needs to be on a leash under a table. You know, you are a service friendly business, but there are rules and regulations.
[12:59] Another business told me that somebody came in with a German Shepherd and said it was a service dog,
[13:03] but it was standing on the timelays with it's for a cause on her shoulders.
[13:07] That's not like this in the animal.
[13:10] We need to be on board on people who are facing fake animal service animals.
[13:15] I would be coming and dying Sacramento up to ask him about this and how we can do it.
[13:19] But I would like to agenda is to help educate our businesses of what they can say and what they can't because the line is very fine.
[13:27] You can get 5,500,000 dollars by not letting somebody into your business and finds where it's saying too much.
[13:36] So is there any way that we can agendaices?
[13:39] Because this is a serious issue.
[13:41] There's a business in townhouse, has a scientist, no animals allowed to serve animals.
[13:46] And I told Michael, good for you, you finally did it.
[13:48] And they go, the people call it the corporation and complain to us, so they have to let him in now.
[13:52] People are bringing our animals up here way too much and our town has to have laws and regulations on this and I'd like to see you enforce our help our police officers
[14:02] enforce these laws because there was a council member who mentioned to me that our officers don't have time to be giving out
[14:12] finds that for people who have leashes because they have other things to do.
[14:16] Public safety is number one in this town.
[14:18] We need to take care of the people in this town and our animals
[14:21] because they're all just running these up there.
[14:24] Is there any way we can agendais this to help educate our businesses?
[14:31] If Council wants, we can bring an information about them forward
[14:34] on the terms of laws and regulations related to our families.
[14:37] I'm almost finding that this business related is that not something more
[14:40] for the Chamber of Commerce.
[14:41] For outreach element, it could be more effective.
[14:45] Let's say I'd like to hear our officers be able to enforce the leash lock.
[14:49] I asked them once to how many dog bites you have been.
[14:52] They said last two years there was 35 dog bites.
[14:56] And that does not include the ones that haven't been reported.
[15:00] I'd like to see you at the start.
[15:05] Thank you for your comments, Lee.
[15:13] Good evening, my name is Dana Stroud and I'm a resident of Mammoth Lakes. I love the term in a roses parade.
[15:21] Rich Baccia, who is on the Mammoth Lakes Recreation Board of Directors, also serves as a volunteer for the term in a roses parade.
[15:28] The reason I'm bringing this up is that we learned today that the Inno National Forest is going to be represented in an entry that the Forest Service is putting into the term in a Rose's parade in celebration of the wilderness at 50th anniversary this year.
[15:44] And two of our own from the Indian National Forest, Michael Morris, and Lee Roser, who do all
[15:50] of our bad country path trips for the, in you, are going to be leading this all-newal
[15:57] equestrian team through the tournament of Roser's parade on January 1st.
[16:02] And we talk a lot about our relationship with the Forest Service in particular with the
[16:07] in you, and the work that Michael and Lee does in the bad country to take care of all the
[16:12] that are back there in the summertime, handling all of our trails and all the work back there
[16:18] and the wilderness. Those guys are the best. And so I think it would be totally awesome
[16:23] if this community really valid behind Michael and Lee is there down there representing the Eastern
[16:28] Sierra as they go down, Colorado Boulevard and turn in to your TV on January 1st to watch them in
[16:34] the parade. It's rather exciting and it's rather cool and we're going to be down there. So I just
[16:40] I want to let the public know about the Indian National Forest and the Prosperate.
[16:44] Thank you.
[16:45] Thank you, Dana.
[16:46] You know, I think we call them ULs our own too.
[16:50] I just added that in that parade is going to be raining more as a specific South West, regional
[16:55] Forester and the Chief of the Forest Service Tom too well.
[16:58] So this is a pretty big deal.
[17:02] All right.
[17:03] Thank you.
[17:05] Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
[17:08] My name is Chris Neaver.
[17:10] I'm a resident of Mammoth Lakes and I live on Canyon Boulevard.
[17:17] I just want to express my appreciation for the new sidewalks that Mammoth Lakes has built this past summer, including the one right on Canyon.
[17:31] I think that's a great step in the right direction, making the town more pedestrian friendly and more walkable.
[17:39] My question that I have for the council on the town is what I've noticed, I guess, is that since it started snowing, the sidewalk on Canyon hasn't been maintained, hasn't been plowed or the snow hasn't been removed.
[17:58] So my question is, is there a plan to do that this season or what's going on with that?
[18:06] You're at least going to say we could address that.
[18:09] Yeah.
[18:11] Okay.
[18:12] Thank you.
[18:17] Right.
[18:17] Anyone else for public comment?
[18:22] Seeing none, we'll move on to Council Member Reports.
[18:26] Please start with you, John.
[18:28] Thank you very much, Madam Mayor.
[18:30] Monday, December 8.
[18:32] Shields in myself and Mayor Bacon played a very elegant game of tag at the LTC.
[18:39] And the community should know that you were represented at all moments at the Dias votes
[18:44] were cast.
[18:45] Your interest is very interesting meeting.
[18:48] A really interesting presentation on the Monarch County Regional Transportation Plan,
[18:52] which is very deep.
[18:54] Got a lot of pieces to it, but that was very interesting.
[18:57] On Friday, December 12th, I met with the representative of the California Emerging Technology
[19:02] Fund, a sending big peak over in San Francisco, talking about digital funding, 395 issues
[19:07] in those matters of concern to this community.
[19:10] And then with regional force, a rating more than half an hour in the lay-o, and then with
[19:15] about 10 members of his staff, talking about forced plan revision, the opportunities for sustainable
[19:20] recreation with the Indian National Forest, a very exciting, very interesting series of meetings,
[19:25] all about plotting any way forward for the Forest Service and for the Indian National
[19:28] Forest and for our interest in our communities for many decades to come, so very interesting
[19:33] stuff.
[19:34] Okay, thank you, John.
[19:35] I would have fun this week.
[19:38] Thank you, Mayor Baker.
[19:40] Not as much for me this week.
[19:42] Just wanted to report that as I mentioned with the last council meeting,
[19:48] the hockey rank roof group has been keeping me busy.
[19:53] So we've been meeting on a weekly basis,
[19:56] kind of just working through moving that forward.
[20:00] So nothing particular to report at this time,
[20:04] just that we're continuing to see how we can rally the community to help support that effort.
[20:10] Thanks.
[20:11] Mayor Bagan and fellow council members.
[20:14] I too attended with John and Mayor Bagan.
[20:18] The LTC meeting.
[20:20] I was there for the first time.
[20:22] John was there for the second half.
[20:23] So I appreciate you stepping in.
[20:25] My pleasure thinking absolutely.
[20:27] Also I wanted to recognize the chamber.
[20:31] We had a fun chamber event last night, happened to be at the side door, so I thought, say
[20:36] a few words about it, but it was a good time, and then it moved over to Gomez's, and
[20:40] I moved over to it, then it moved some other place, and I kept moving with it, so it was
[20:45] not going chamber mixer.
[20:48] It was a good time.
[20:49] Rolling mixer.
[20:51] And we gave a few toast to the chief Dan Watson, so we're going to talk about Dan here
[21:00] in a minute.
[21:00] And that's all we got.
[21:03] Okay, thank you, Chills.
[21:04] What I will add is the thank you to all of the employees who were out there yesterday and kind of
[21:09] cold weather as Bell Rangers in front of Vines.
[21:12] That's a great effort and I'm glad that everybody did that.
[21:18] Complete in Santa Brigadier.
[21:22] Thank you.
[21:23] Next comes reports from commissions or departments.
[21:27] At Merrick, we could respond to a couple of public comments, so I have Brady respond to the sidewalk item.
[21:34] Mr. Carlton had asked about having an item related to the renewal fee for business licenses on the future agenda.
[21:42] We can definitely do that.
[21:44] That question came up in terms of we began to levy the renewal fee.
[21:47] It's $13.
[21:50] That was not levy since 2009.
[21:53] There was a question that came up.
[21:54] reviewed it this year as part of an overall process and its legitimate fee to have on a renewal
[22:00] license obviously can come back and choose to levied or not. The comment being that it wasn't
[22:08] when the council reviewed the item of your last meeting, we did not increase or adopted a new
[22:12] fee. That fee has been adopted for a number of years. It's been on the books each year. It's reviewed
[22:17] as part of the overall fee resolution so it's not something it was new or something that was
[22:22] pass on the side or something through to the council.
[22:26] But if you want to bring it back and have a dialogue on it,
[22:28] discussion more information on it would be glad to do so.
[22:33] We could do that for January 7th.
[22:37] I would have a problem with that.
[22:38] That's a good council.
[22:39] I like to bring it back.
[22:41] For discussion of seven to the council's pleasure.
[22:44] Yeah, I would support that.
[22:45] I think there were questions to have a public discussion on as
[22:51] Thank you.
[22:52] Thank you.
[22:54] Thank you.
[22:54] Thank you.
[22:55] Thank you.
[22:55] Great job.
[22:56] Public Works.
[22:57] To address the snow removal in sidewalks.
[22:59] This season we're actually expanding some of the removal we are able to do, unfortunately,
[23:03] it doesn't reach any canyon full of our yet.
[23:06] Two things we are adding is a section on Lake Mary Road up to Kelly Road.
[23:12] And I say it's kind of a test because if we did two or three big stones in the road,
[23:16] and we're really going to be able to keep up with that.
[23:17] There's too much snow coming off the road to do it.
[23:19] But right now we're keeping that open.
[23:21] In addition, we've got to be really involved
[23:23] in these sidewalks.
[23:24] We have that to say throughout the school's project.
[23:27] We've got that much and fun to say throughout the school.
[23:29] We thought it was important to keep that one open as well.
[23:31] That's a well-traveled pathway.
[23:34] And working with Dennis Rotten, we're also looking
[23:36] at the overall panel plan to see what else we can
[23:39] expand service.
[23:40] Unfortunately, with budget constraints, equipment,
[23:43] and demand power, we're not able to do cannon.
[23:45] And addition can is a bit unique because if you note that sidewalk, most of the places on the
[23:51] north side are there, there's a slope on the other side.
[23:53] There really isn't any place to put the snow.
[23:56] It's tough enough to keep the street clear, but if you try to get off the sidewalk as well,
[24:00] the one place to put it in front is back on the street and that just doesn't work.
[24:04] We'll look at the look at that if there's ways we can improve what we do, we'd well,
[24:08] but don't really want to do that this year.
[24:11] Great.
[24:11] I'd like to commend your efforts on the Lakes Basin Path for getting that clear.
[24:15] That's been a subject of debate for years and there's always been a lot of finger pointing
[24:19] about liability and we can't do this and the force was going to do that but it's very
[24:23] hardening to see just some initiative from the staff to move forward and do something like that.
[24:28] And I think everybody in the community appreciates that we'll be idiosyncrasies to doing that
[24:32] project but the public safety issues are just enormous up in that street.
[24:36] So thank you very much for taking that initiative.
[24:39] Do you have a quick question, greedy?
[24:43] So I think I'm clear on this, but just want to clarify that that is not a standard practice
[24:49] of ours to budget L&M into capital improvement projects, such as the sidewalk project.
[24:55] That's correct.
[24:56] In fact, actually the construction money, as we've played last week, we've got $16.5 million.
[25:01] Over $16 million that came from outside and they before capital improvements, not for operational
[25:06] maintenance.
[25:07] Okay. So, you know, most of those, that grant funding, say,
[25:10] say, perhaps school, those type of things would specifically be for the capital improvement,
[25:14] but no budget for L&M.
[25:16] Okay. Thanks.
[25:24] A couple of comments before I get to the item.
[25:26] I wanted to talk about I as a council member, Richard said, was at the chamber event last night.
[25:32] And I appreciate the recognition, but I want to point out that I left from Gomez as an
[25:36] I had no idea where they went afterwards.
[25:40] And also appreciate Mayor Bacon's comment about Townstaff, Rick and the Bell for the Salvation
[25:47] Army yesterday, and I want to point out that she came through the line and made a nice
[25:51] donation.
[25:52] So I don't know if other council members were there, but we appreciate the support for the Salvation
[25:56] Army.
[25:57] I want to give you an update on shop with a cop that was last Saturday morning down in Bishop.
[26:01] But we provided Christmas for 50 families in the Eastern Sierra, started off at Bitter Country
[26:10] Club with breakfast, and we went to Kmart, where the children had an opportunity to shop
[26:14] for their families, and then they were taken home for Christmas party.
[26:18] We went to the community, you know, to raise the money for 50 children in the math is pretty
[26:24] simple.
[26:25] We needed $10,000, so we asked the community to support us, and boy did they, they ended up
[26:30] But we ended up with over $14,000 in donations, which in the majority of that, I think
[26:37] about 9,000 came right out of Manor Flakes.
[26:39] So I think it's a great indication of the support that the people in the eastern Sierra
[26:44] and have for our community.
[26:46] What we're going to do with the extra funds is the associations that have decided they want
[26:51] to do it again in August to have a shop with a cop back to school day.
[26:55] So we'll be putting something else together.
[26:58] And in addition to the people that donated, we had about 40 volunteers that showed up
[27:05] the K-mart to rap gifts and know they had as we all had as much fun as the kids did.
[27:10] So it was another successful event and thanks to Sergeant Rick Mulberley who put it together
[27:14] this year.
[27:15] He's passing it on to David Skoby who's one of our former officers as a currently deputy
[27:21] sheriff and now he gets to make it happen in the future.
[27:24] So I just want to thank the community for their support for shot with the crowd.
[27:28] Thank you, Dan.
[27:30] Thank you.
[27:34] Good evening, Mayor Baker.
[27:35] Thank you, Council members.
[27:38] Thanks for the cudos on the salvation.
[27:39] I'm here.
[27:40] It was really fun.
[27:42] It was freezing.
[27:43] It was really fun.
[27:46] I wanted to talk about a couple of different things that I've been working on.
[27:51] And one is the AED program.
[27:54] In June of this past June, I got CGAPA or insurance companies to come out here and do a CPR
[28:01] first day 80 training and in doing that I thought, oh, we, we need some 80s and then someone
[28:09] said, oh, we had a bunch and I said, where are they, and they said, we don't know, someone
[28:14] took them.
[28:16] So, I sent out an email, town mystery, what happened to 80s, we ended up finding them, they
[28:23] Turns out they were implemented years ago, but they did not get compliance through the state.
[28:27] In order to have an AED program, you have to be compliant with an organization called
[28:30] Isima through the state of California.
[28:34] And so over the last six months, my intern, Cassie and I have been working on getting compliant,
[28:40] we wrote a policy, we got all the AEDs, we updated all the paths, we updated all the
[28:45] batteries, and we actually have been talking with Motocounty Current Medics who are working
[28:49] on their own program, and we're a couple of steps ahead of them.
[28:53] So we went ahead and implemented our program.
[28:55] Today we passed out all of our LEDs.
[28:57] Every town site is going to have an AED at it.
[29:00] There's actually 11 of them.
[29:03] So there will be three with the police
[29:04] two and there's two squad cars on at a time.
[29:07] So both squad cars will have an AED
[29:09] and there's going to be one in the office.
[29:11] There's going to be one at shady rest in the summer.
[29:13] There's going to be one at the community center.
[29:15] There's one at the yard.
[29:16] There's one at the airport.
[29:17] There's one in the town admin building.
[29:21] And there's one here in Sweetsea.
[29:22] Jamie Gray is the POC here for the one in Sweet Z and we're going to be keeping it back here in this room
[29:29] So accessible to anyone if there's anything that happens in this room. We have this accessible
[29:34] And ready to use this is what they look like
[29:38] And so if any questions about that just let me know, but I think this is really exciting right after we implement it as I
[29:43] Saw an article about rich crests were some guy in a heart attack and they had an 80 in the gym and they were able to save his life
[29:50] So I think we can do great things with this and exciting and then once that county gets their program running
[29:55] We are going to become part of the county's overall program in the parent
[30:00] And in compliance with state. The next thing is that another thing we're doing with the county is the county has a big grant program for on-the-job training.
[30:11] And we were able to get $14,000 in grant money to hire our new revenue specialists. They're going to pay us to train our revenue specialists.
[30:21] So we've applied for the grant and we're able to get some of the money from the county. So that's the other exciting thing that's going on.
[30:27] Okay.
[30:28] Okay.
[30:29] So there's a stupid question.
[30:30] What is ADD stands for?
[30:31] It's the fibroid, right?
[30:32] Yeah.
[30:33] It's automatic.
[30:34] External, the fibroid.
[30:35] Automatic, external, the fibroid.
[30:37] Thank you.
[30:38] Thank you, Sarah.
[30:49] Stuart Brown.
[30:50] Great question, manager.
[30:50] Thank you.
[30:52] ADD.
[30:52] We actually have an ADD at the pool, by the way.
[30:54] So if you were down there, we pay for that compliance on you.
[30:58] Sorry.
[30:59] We're good.
[31:01] Just quickly.
[31:01] I escaped with Santa is tomorrow night, Santa is coming back, and he was just here, but he's coming back.
[31:07] So I hope that the ice shrink tomorrow from five o'clock till 6.15.
[31:10] Can we get your photos taken? We'll do family portraits.
[31:13] We have a tree, we have a background, full good.
[31:15] If there's Christmas photos taken care of, holidays.
[31:19] The ice shrink also moves into full holiday operation on Saturday.
[31:23] So I'll be up in seven days a week from 11.30 a.m. to essentially 9.30 later, 9.30 10 o'clock.
[31:31] for those two weeks and also we'll do a East Coast News Eve party on New
[31:36] Z. From 730 to 930 for $10, so people can come in and do a little toast on
[31:41] our Catholic Village. At that facility and celebrate East Coast News
[31:45] Eve with this as well. So, and then just to pop on Council Member Ferdies
[31:50] comments, we want to bring the fundraising kind of program to commission and
[31:54] January we want to bring it to Council in January as well, probably the second
[31:58] So we really want to kind of give you an update on how we're doing with that little group in the community and how we can kind of walk ways
[32:04] We're looking at ways of money for that program. So just a little update for you. Well, I want to keep that kind of front and center in the community.
[32:11] Great.
[32:12] Any questions?
[32:13] Questions?
[32:14] Thank you.
[32:15] Thank you.
[32:15] Thank you.
[32:17] All right. Any other commissions or departments?
[32:21] All right. Then we'll move on to our presentations.
[32:23] In the first is a number of our mammoth unified school district students and faculty to have a presentation for us.
[32:40] Thank you, Mayor Bagan.
[32:42] Council members, manager Haller, for allowing us to share this very special honor that our school district received.
[32:50] Just before Thanksgiving, we were notified by College Board.
[32:54] College Board is a nonprofit organization that's been around since 1900 promoting successful
[33:03] transition between high school and college. And if you've ever heard of the SAT exam,
[33:09] that all students take to get admitted into college as well as advanced placement classes,
[33:14] the high school students can take and receive college credit for them when they go on to school.
[33:20] These are two of the most important things sponsored by College Board, so they're well-known and very well-respected, and they are recognizing MMS Unified School District.
[33:32] As one of 547 school districts across the United States and Canada, who we have been placed on there on a wall for this year,
[33:42] And to put that into perspective, there are just under 13,000 public school districts in the United
[33:49] State for Moon, and they'll also include private school districts from this, as well as Canada.
[33:56] So this is one of where being recognized as one of the rather elite groups.
[34:01] And I'm going to let our principal, because we are a one comprehensive school school districts,
[34:09] So this award really goes to our high school and I'm going to let Chris Powell, I'm going to
[34:14] look at you a little bit more information and then we have one of our outstanding advanced
[34:19] placement teachers and three of our outstanding students to share with you tonight.
[34:23] Thank you.
[34:26] Thank you, those.
[34:30] So as I want to point out that although this is AP as a high school program, this is really
[34:36] district honor. We don't prepare kids in four years to earn something like this. It's
[34:43] 12 years, 13 years worth of preparation through the elementary and middle school, and also
[34:48] the support of the whole community. I, you know, fully believe that it takes a village to raise
[34:53] a child, so I think that it's definitely an honor we can all be proud of. I want to give a few
[35:00] more of the criteria, so you understand why we earned this. It was based on a three-year trend
[35:06] And that since from 2012 to 2014, we increased our participation in our advanced placement
[35:13] courses by at least 11 percent.
[35:16] We increased or maintained and we actually increased slightly our participation by our Hispanic
[35:21] population, the demographics that they looked at were Hispanic African American and Native
[35:28] American, ours is predominantly Hispanic, and we also improved performance levels compared
[35:35] to 2012. So we didn't just increase the number of kids taking tests, we increased the number
[35:43] of kids taking tests and maintained our pass rate, which is really a tribute to the teachers
[35:50] and the kids and it's all about them. So I'm going to introduce Carlos Spencer, our AP Spanish teacher
[35:57] and she'll take it with the kids. Hi, I'm Carlos Spencer and I've been teaching Spanish
[36:04] at Mammoth High School for 15 years now.
[36:07] My first year at Mammoth High School,
[36:09] we had three levels of Spanish.
[36:10] We had Spanish one, two, and three.
[36:15] And that wasn't really meeting the needs of our students
[36:18] who came from dispensing homes,
[36:19] nor the needs of our students who had worked really hard
[36:23] in those classes in the adult high levels of skills.
[36:25] So my first priority is that new teacher was to expand the program.
[36:28] I had a lot of administrative support in doubling number
[36:33] classes are the number of levels we actually offer. So now we teach one, two, four, the
[36:38] advanced placement Spanish language class, and starting this year at the advanced placement
[36:43] Spanish literature class. So I've brought some students with me from those two classes,
[36:49] getting here. And Melissa Garcia Gaban has taken last year she took the AP Spanish language class,
[36:56] that class is very much very challenging test, reading writing, listening and speaking,
[37:01] mostly kind of current events, you have to be able to read articles and graphs on the origin
[37:08] time economy or read a paper of some Spanish philosopher and be able to understand it and
[37:15] respond to it.
[37:17] So we wanted to take that last year, sport of five, which is your top score you can get on
[37:23] this day.
[37:25] And Amanda Kirkkeby is in the class of the Shearers Senior and Johnny Morales is in the class of Shearers sophomore.
[37:33] Melissa is also this year taking the pilot class of the Abescent Literature,
[37:38] where we're starting with the medieval Spanish Literature from 1300s.
[37:42] We just finished reading the original Don Juan's story, which was quite interesting,
[37:48] and we're making our waitress a 20th century.
[37:49] So each of these students talk a little bit about their experiences with AP, you'll hear from them, the classes they're taking, it's a really wide range.
[37:58] And these are the best of our community here.
[38:02] So, Melissa, you've talked a little bit in a minute.
[38:05] Hello, my name is Melissa Garcia-Galvan, and I'm a senior at my high school.
[38:10] Throughout my high school years, I've taken a variety of different AP classes, including AP World History, AP Spanish Language, AP U.S. History, AP English Language,
[38:18] AP Spanish lit, AP English lit, AP government, AP calculus, and next semester I'm taking
[38:25] AP comparative politics and I'm taking online classes that serve as a cozo, too.
[38:32] And then what I like most about taking into classes is that it's an added challenge of
[38:36] not just staying with what I'm capable of doing, she's been in there, but the added challenge
[38:41] having to develop new skills, putting calculus into the real world and seeing how
[38:49] optimizations and developing new skills. And it's just the small classes also
[38:57] are really nice because we get to have a lot of learning and lessons and then how
[39:04] will help me and the future is that it, um, I'm already used to the work website that prepares
[39:11] me to call it for college, based on the work level that I'm used to and I also managed to have
[39:18] time for every single class, like setting first listeners, specific class and then just managing
[39:23] my time and then I'll also give some college credit. If I pass the ATTAS, yeah, okay, well thank you.
[39:33] I don't like you, but I'll scrub with me Amanda Kirkby who's also a senior in Anow High School.
[39:46] Hi, my name is Amanda Kirkby and I'm a senior at Miami High School and starting my sophomore year
[39:54] I started taking AP classes with AP World History, and I didn't pass that with the fun.
[40:00] And then this year I'm currently taking AP Calculus AP Spanish language and AP Biology.
[40:07] And I enjoy taking AP classes because the majority of the students in these classes
[40:12] actually want to learn and have the drive to succeed academically
[40:16] and that allows us to dive deeper into each subject and learn a lot more
[40:22] than in regular classes.
[40:24] And also AP classes will help me in the future
[40:27] because they are preparing me for college courses and show that I have chosen to challenge myself academically.
[40:35] In this way AP classes will be able to be competitive in my college applications and help me in the future.
[40:41] Thank you.
[40:42] Thank you.
[40:43] I
[40:46] also have Johnny Morales with me.
[40:49] As I say, she's a sophomore and he's just starting up to the AP program and so all the
[40:53] couple of comments on what has been like for him so far.
[40:57] Good evening, my name is Jonathan Morales, and I am currently a sophomore in high school, and the current AP class that I am taking is Spanish and World History.
[41:11] These helped me out because there will be only changes that I will face, and I can't complete them once I take these AP classes when I go into college.
[41:21] If I pass the APP exam, I'll also won't have to take the AP classes in college, which will help me financially.
[41:34] And they'll help me reach my full potential to see how well my potential is in my work ethic.
[41:43] Even though there isn't as many choices for AP classes for me to take as a sophomore,
[41:48] I'm planning to take more, and to challenge myself more in high school,
[41:59] and 80 classes will
[41:59] hopefully in the challenges, and help me get through college well.
[42:10] Thank you very much.
[42:11] Thank you, Charlie.
[42:18] Thank you, students.
[42:19] Thank you, Mrs. Spencer.
[42:21] So, it is, it is a more than, we did in the pride for, for anything else, we, I don't
[42:26] We even really knew it was going on and just kind of got a notification that we had earned
[42:32] this award, which was really kind of gratifying because we had at the high school been
[42:37] making some intentional efforts to expand our program to provide access to kids who typically
[42:44] are not, you know, historically have not been AP students, so we're trying to look intentionally
[42:49] at, hey, you know, here's a student who's on the edge, let's challenge and let's bring
[42:54] to the AP program. Let's really push them with a regular education and we're making that effort
[43:01] for all our students and so we're really proud of them. As you can see we have very, very,
[43:08] very great students with great potential. So thank you, Council. Thank you. Thank you.
[43:15] The only comment I have is just want to say congratulations. It's a great honor. As someone
[43:21] It's like a lot of AP courses and AP tests including AP Spanish which I got absolutely hammered
[43:27] on.
[43:29] I did not get a 5 so congratulations to you as it's a great honor and thanks for bringing
[43:36] that before us.
[43:40] Okay, thank you very much.
[43:43] Next we have recognition of retiring police chief Dan Watson.
[43:48] Dan I think we need to help you stand kind of somewhere near the podium because I think
[43:52] after we speak, there are other people who may want to speak as well.
[43:57] One of the priorities, and I did have a platform for you, but I'll bring that down a little bit later.
[44:03] One of the priorities this may or is I get to go first.
[44:09] Everybody's got to talk down about all the great things you've done for our department
[44:13] and that is wonderful. You helped us through some really tough times.
[44:17] From my perspective, though, what's just as important is how you have just become a part of this community,
[44:24] whether it's some of the programs that you put on in your presence in the community,
[44:29] dragging, rotary people down to Mexico to build houses, whatever it's been, you've just been an excellent member of this community,
[44:36] and that will be missed as well as your work with us.
[44:42] Anybody else want to say anything?
[44:44] Well, just from this ring of the dies here, I think Joe said it very well, I didn't know that the police chief was at every public function that goes on in the community, but he is, and it's great to see him there.
[45:00] Being a member of the community, I think, also, I was an unaccount officer during the very difficult times of the bankruptcy threat, but I think your leadership and your ability to help this community navigate a very challenging environment, and to bring us out the other side intact, to give us a platform to grow on as very much appreciated, and thank you for all your work, your service, and your pours. Thank you.
[45:27] Nothing particularly, I had just, these are going to be some big shoes to fill, we'll miss you.
[45:35] I've been lucky enough to work with you for my entire time in town, and as John mentioned,
[45:43] it's interesting to see how well you've been able to mesh with the community,
[45:50] and that's something that I understand was not the case in the past.
[45:53] So I think you're really taking the police department to a new level and, you know, I'm
[46:00] proud of the community policing policy that you've really implemented here, I think.
[46:05] So there's due a tremendous job of understanding what is a legitimate safety threat and
[46:10] what is something that doesn't need to be cracked down on as severely if it's not a safety
[46:17] issue.
[46:18] So I think honestly our police department is something that we can be proud of and
[46:23] brag to other communities about, because I get a lot of positive feedback from people
[46:29] in the community about the interactions they've had with your force.
[46:31] So congratulations.
[46:32] Thank you.
[46:36] I think turning around a department that was in need of turning around is an understatement
[46:44] And I think everything everyone said so far years,
[46:48] but on, and I think the community's going to miss you
[46:51] as well as the department and have fun in your retirement.
[46:56] Whatever you may go.
[46:59] I said a lot last night, but you had a lot of toast to you last night.
[47:08] But, you know, cones ready, it's used to literally to fill.
[47:14] But I just want to thank both Dan and Kathy for being a part of our community and I hope they understand that they still are.
[47:23] Just because you're not pleased, she doesn't mean you're not part of our community.
[47:28] Is there anyone in the IIT like to speak?
[47:41] Just very briefly saying to Hogan, I haven't planned to speak, but I think one of Dan's achievements that really has been pointed out and the hopefully is ongoing and I think Hogan is really his formation of the Hispanic Advisory Committee and the fact that, I mean, that's a very tough thing to do.
[48:00] I have taught myself for several years here after I retired and involving his
[48:07] panic community is very difficult because just this and what he's done and
[48:13] steps his taken and really make us proud of that and I don't know if there
[48:19] folks from that community here tonight maybe not but he's brought him a lot closer to
[48:23] all of us also Catholic we're gonna use her I have the pleasure of serving with her
[48:29] my first year. On the grand jury, and we worked together, she had to
[48:35] recuse herself of anything, had to do with certain matters as I did with others.
[48:40] But we worked together on the report for the Community College Bond and money
[48:44] and the, you know, it helped explain how the Performing Arts Center was together.
[48:50] Plus, she, I was very important in the room of the Casa that court-appointed
[48:58] So we're going to miss both of these folks, but they've made a real impact and a very short time.
[49:06] So, thank you.
[49:10] I
[49:16] made it external to the regulator.
[49:18] Thank you.
[49:23] Thank you.
[49:26] When I started work last year, Dan was a town manager.
[49:31] And his words advice to me were, take things day by day, do what you can today and then work on what you can tomorrow.
[49:39] And I think about that a lot.
[49:41] And I think I speak for the majority of town staff for everybody.
[49:45] What I say, that you've just been a enormous pleasure to have a running office, an inspirational leader,
[49:54] And just a wonderful person to learn from the management of violence, everything you do, and he makes
[49:59] such a carbon head beatings really amusing to be able to speak with funny stories or just really entertaining.
[50:06] And Kathy, as well, got to know you, and I really appreciate both of you, and I hope you guys can
[50:10] visit and say hi when you pop in.
[50:24] I just wanted to say thank you that I've grown up here, lived here long time, you've
[50:31] been here short time and so you were clearly new to our community and I haven't known
[50:35] anybody to really put themselves out there and be a part of our community as much as you
[50:41] have and I really appreciate that. So thank you.
[50:48] Dan, I would like to add, on behalf of the school district, how much we have felt supported and I know
[50:54] You haven't been able to give us a totally dedicated school resource officer, but I don't think we have really
[51:03] felt in
[51:04] For one second, not completely supported by you and your officers, so thank you very very much
[51:15] Before I do that, you know, I'm never the worst
[51:17] I just want to thank the council and the members of the community for the nice comments and also the town manager for his support.
[51:33] You know in the last few months since I announced it I was retiring I've gotten a lot of really nice comments from a lot of nice people
[51:40] And they complimented some of the comments you've made about
[51:44] change in the place department and I accept those compliments, but I do it on behalf of the members of the police department
[51:50] They're the ones that stepped up when I asked to make some changes
[51:55] You know when I got here I have a conversation with everybody
[52:00] About two hours and I'm sure they didn't enjoy it because it was two hours
[52:04] And as you know I was only going to be here for a year on the interim contract
[52:08] So I asked them, well, what should I focus my attention on for the next year?
[52:13] And virtually everybody said the same two things among some other things.
[52:17] They said restore a reputation with the community, and the council, and the media,
[52:23] because we once were well thought of and we're not now.
[52:26] And then the other thing they said was, tell us what you want us to do, and then hold people accountable.
[52:32] Well, when I heard those two things, and it was a common theme, I thought we're going to be fine.
[52:35] You know, they just need to know where we want to go, so they've responded really well.
[52:41] So I really do appreciate those compliments, but again I accept them on behalf of everybody.
[52:48] This department has been a great way for me to end a really long career.
[52:53] I came up here for a year and made four and a half years.
[52:57] I've been a chief for 13 years and I just did the math.
[53:00] I've been over 300 council meetings.
[53:02] This is my last one.
[53:05] I've got a year of last, you know, this Saturday will be my last night of lights.
[53:11] And you know, you know, when it's time to retire and for me, it's time for me to retire and it's time for the police department to have me retire.
[53:20] I think we've accomplished what we set out to do when I first got here.
[53:24] We've made some changes. The department is, I think, stabilized and is in a good place.
[53:28] We went through a very difficult period of time on the bankruptcy and have come out of that as an organization
[53:36] and have adapted made a lot of difficult changes and have adapted well to it.
[53:42] So the town and the department are on the mend and it's a good time for new leadership to come in.
[53:48] The town manager led a very lengthy and I think very effective process to select a replacement.
[53:54] I've spent time with Chief Davis. In fact he'll be up. He'll be my last right along. He'll be here Saturday night for night of lights.
[54:03] He'll be an opportunity for him to see how we operate on an especially events.
[54:08] And I think he's going to be a very effective chief. He's got big feet too.
[54:12] I don't think he'll be disappointed. He brings a different set of skills and a different background.
[54:17] and no doubt will identify and focus on areas that I didn't, and I think that's how our
[54:24] organizations continue to improve and grow is by bringing new people in to build on what
[54:29] the predecessor worked on. So I have no doubt that you will have the place apartment will be
[54:36] good hands in the leadership of Chief Davis. For 13 years, I've understood my role in government
[54:43] as a police chief. I see my responsibility among them is to advise and make recommendations
[54:50] to the council for the town manager. Sometimes those recommendations are followed and sometimes
[54:56] are not in regardless. Once the decisions made is my responsibility to support those recommendations.
[55:02] And I've done that to the best of they can. So since this is my last meaning, it's my last opportunity
[55:08] need to give you my advice.
[55:13] As I said, I think the town is in a good position. We're coming
[55:17] out of a deep hole. Revenue's up, the T-bit, I think, is having impact on that. Hopefully
[55:22] we'll get more snow. Looks like we're starting off pretty good. There's been a lot of enthusiasm
[55:28] in town about doing things like putting a roof on the ice ring and a permanent entertainment
[55:38] site. And those are all really good things that need to be done. But I would ask that you
[55:43] just, and I know you know this, I'm going to beat the day of course, that you continue
[55:49] to places of priority restoring the police department. You know, we took a really big cut.
[55:55] I said at the time, and I still believe that our level of police officers are dangerously
[56:00] low, and we need to slowly, but steadily, rebuild that as those revenues come in, that should
[56:06] part of what you need to do. And we need to get to a point where we can have police officers
[56:11] working 24 hours a day and have adequate staffing in the peak hours in the evening.
[56:17] So, I just ask you to please consider, continue to consider that as a high birdie. And the
[56:22] very last thing is remember, December 31st, 2017, that's when the least on the police station
[56:31] and if it's still there. We almost burned it down today.
[56:36] That's something to decide. We're going to do a try of turkey and fortunately we got the
[56:42] little fire out before it got the building up.
[56:46] So that was your error.
[56:52] That was a little, it hasn't quite laid enough. I haven't still got a couple weeks.
[56:59] And for those that are looking for something to do, we are going to have a nice little
[57:02] going away party in January 10th and if you're interested in attending, please let
[57:06] mind you very able assistant, we're in April essential to go.
[57:09] And I want to thank Robert Henry and Doug Hornbeck are here.
[57:14] Along with Steve Serals, I appreciate the support of Dan Holler and the three other town
[57:20] managers that are worked for in all nine of the council members that serve in the council
[57:24] So thank you very much.
[57:27] Thank you Chief.
[57:29] So what we have for him is a business.
[57:35] I like it.
[57:37] I like it.
[57:40] You have two ways where the still you can have the old class.
[57:45] So you have this one.
[57:46] So I'm not only going to speak to you.
[57:50] So thank you so much.
[57:52] You know, she says this is a treatment.
[57:57] But I was going to point out that it does say that we should do 10 to 10 to 10 to 10 to 10 to 10 to 14.
[58:03] And that's it for a change from one.
[58:06] Thank you so much.
[58:32] We're going on to item number 2.5 is since the agenda was put together.
[58:38] It came to our attention that we have another employee that is retiring soon.
[58:42] So soon that the plaque has opposed it, it's going to be a plaque.
[58:48] Peter, would you please come up to the podium?
[58:55] Peter Burgess County is going to be leaving us after 17 years with the town.
[59:01] I thought it was a sense of incorporation.
[59:08] The number of engineering projects that Peter has been involved in,
[59:14] I just tremendous, and we've got the Lake Mary Bike Path.
[59:18] We've got all kinds of road rehab projects, and some of which have gone on probably since the day you started.
[59:27] There have been all kinds of things with the trail system, the airport terminal and runway improvements, trail van park,
[59:36] the ice rink, a bit more track, there's just a huge list of things that Peter has worked on.
[59:40] He's able to represent at the town in local transportation commission and fighting for the
[59:48] dollars that we have found.
[59:50] He's been part of a team that when certain items like Meridian were denied through that
[59:57] funding source.
[59:58] They have worked to...
[1:00:00] Another phase done. I believe that project has about 400 phases at this point. So that we will be very sorry to leave you to see you leaving so shortly, which is why, as I said, when I present your plaque, it has a post-it on it. So first I'll turn to my fellow council members.
[1:00:21] I think I've appeared, you know, I brought together in a variety of projects and so sitting
[1:00:28] up here is a little odd because we did a lot of great work together and I know that the
[1:00:34] things that we worked on was just a little smidgen of the very large portfolio.
[1:00:38] Now, your institution knowledge, professionism and knowledge of all kinds of arcane, grants,
[1:00:44] state, federal acronyms, financial resources was really with that parallel and your
[1:00:50] to work in champion community-based projects and things that were
[1:00:54] matted to this community was very much appreciated acknowledge at the time I hope and
[1:00:59] thank you thank you very much. I think he said it all.
[1:01:06] I'll say I said thank you.
[1:01:08] But I just want to thank you for all your dedication and how to work in the town and
[1:01:13] what you like in your future endeavors.
[1:01:17] Peter I just want to thank you too. Your signature is all over our community and
[1:01:23] We see it every day, so thank you.
[1:01:26] Yeah, I just want to echo everything that's been said before.
[1:01:29] You know, I really appreciate all the work you've done.
[1:01:32] I've been very impressed with the amount that Public Works has been able to produce since I've been in town.
[1:01:39] So, I know a large part of that is due to you and you will be missed.
[1:01:43] And thank you for 17 years of service.
[1:01:46] I don't have to be retired before that.
[1:01:47] But I will open it up if there's anyone in the audience that this is just saying anything.
[1:02:02] I had not planned to talk at all tonight, but when we heard the Peter was retiring,
[1:02:12] it's like, how can that be? Peter is the grand genius. He's the one that I think is not most of the trail system.
[1:02:21] The paved trail system, because that's what's under special use permit, through moving forward of service and getting those grants and working with other agencies, not just the Forest Service, I've been privileged to work with him on the local transportation commission and see the list of projects, including all of the sidewalk projects, the Wins, the Safe Roots to Schools, both types and everything else, and being able to respond to all of them.
[1:02:49] That's the most arcane commission I've ever seen, and I know I can vouch for that.
[1:02:55] She's been there in a long time, and she'll just, and done this, and I'll figure probably going,
[1:03:00] and Peter and the county staff are the ones responsible for all of the things that keep moving forward,
[1:03:07] or sometimes respond to a program that goes out and they can fit something else in.
[1:03:12] And until you sit in on that condition like that, you never understand how valuable staff is
[1:03:19] because there's no one way that any of us could ever even understand a piece of it.
[1:03:25] In 17 years, I thought you'd been here about 34.
[1:03:29] I don't know if people can answer 17, but I just have to say,
[1:03:35] Grails plus implementation.
[1:03:37] There's one thing in going after the money, there's another thing in making things happen.
[1:03:41] And this man has made him happen, and that's, you know, every time we walk into those
[1:03:47] paths, you better be thinking about him.
[1:03:51] So anyway, I'm going to give another hug.
[1:04:00] You know, I was going to get that long, but he's been so tremendous to have around the
[1:04:05] town.
[1:04:05] Just your, he's involvement in some of the different things.
[1:04:08] And it's going to step up and help him make it from the areas that I've caught on seeing
[1:04:13] willing to step up in the open areas. It's appreciative and you're going to be met from a
[1:04:18] power step office. And I think you're the person that's always lying down it's.
[1:04:24] That's a lot of stuff.
[1:04:27] Thank you.
[1:04:29] Fill us guilty with all of those questions.
[1:04:32] Thank you.
[1:04:40] Well, I just have to thank Peter for very patiently answering my many, many questions.
[1:04:45] This is a recreation commissioner. And also certainly we think of Peter in terms of the
[1:04:50] also just our parks would look very different without him, so thank you very much, we will miss you.
[1:05:06] My name is Dana Stroud and ten years ago I landed into this community and I was working for the town of Mammoth Lakes and as a tourism recreation director in Peterberg, Sconey, was in our public works department and the number of hours that he spent in working with our recreation team and helping to put on
[1:05:28] our facilities together, and put our plans together, and to put our facilities together, was so greatly appreciative because he met his expertise and he led his experience, but most importantly, he led his interest in to what we were doing, and it was a very personal touch that he brought to our efforts.
[1:05:51] There's, when we heard the other day at our MLR meeting that Peter had announced his retirement,
[1:05:59] it said no, that just can't be used to young students either.
[1:06:04] But speaking on behalf of the MLR board, we did want to acknowledge the work that Peter had done,
[1:06:10] and the impact that you have on our community and our facilities and the place that we all called,
[1:06:17] on the flakes has been significant.
[1:06:19] Very specifically, Peter had was intimately involved
[1:06:24] in Lake Mary by Pat and not just the implementation of it,
[1:06:28] but the actual thinking of it many, many, many years ago.
[1:06:32] And I know he and Bill Taylor worked very closely on that.
[1:06:36] The fact that they had that vision that many years ago
[1:06:40] and were able to be here to implement it and put it together
[1:06:44] and it creates such a significant impact on this community is greatly appreciated so we just
[1:06:50] wanted to say thank you and wish you all best and you will certainly be missed and can't thank
[1:06:59] you enough.
[1:07:09] Stuart Brown, we actually said that then we picked today and look at the daunting task ahead
[1:07:17] for us, you know, for the town staff.
[1:07:20] You know, we mentioned it with Pete's signature
[1:07:23] in regards to facilities, and it's probably
[1:07:25] every parks and recreation facility,
[1:07:27] not only the sidewalks, but, you know,
[1:07:28] we looked at the list today, and it's a laundry
[1:07:31] with us, essentially, from, you know,
[1:07:32] trails and park, with more track and sports field,
[1:07:35] you know, the community center, you know,
[1:07:37] shady rest, man with pretty park,
[1:07:40] or a plenty of parks process.
[1:07:41] I mean, the list goes on and on,
[1:07:43] and certainly in the multi-use facility,
[1:07:45] I mean, we've been trying to get
[1:07:47] That permanent Austrian since 1998, and I think Pete had his, you know, fingers and his expertise in that process, you know, right from the beginning.
[1:07:55] So, it's very daunting for us, so we're basically just kind of hanging out in peace room right now.
[1:08:00] We're trying to get everything we can because it's kind of everywhere.
[1:08:03] So, if we can get that, but a lot of, you know, Peter's knowledge is certainly legacy knowledge of the town with Miss.
[1:08:09] I know Dennis probably wanted to say a few words here.
[1:08:11] So, Dennis is really, you know, Pete and Dennis kind of, the 18, you know, certainly put it down.
[1:08:17] And I know Dennis would probably say it alone, you know, congratulate a list of the help that, you know, who'd be very missed and I know Dennis would probably want to say some good words as well, but he's not.
[1:08:29] So anyway, that's all I have, I'll give him a hug and that's where we're going.
[1:08:34] And a black.
[1:08:38] Anyone else?
[1:08:41] And just I got a few words I can convention as well.
[1:08:45] Yeah, it's really got a pleasure working for the town and the changes, one of the things
[1:08:49] about civil engineering is you get the planet, build it, see how it worked in the end.
[1:08:54] And most of the things we've done here really have the difference, I think, you know, if you
[1:08:58] look at old mammoth, you used to be 60 feet of pavement, and now there looks like a street that
[1:09:03] you can walk on.
[1:09:05] When I started in 1988, one of the projects that Steve Boomer and Rick Wood had was the ice
[1:09:13] drink, which we just talked about, he continued to talk about.
[1:09:17] But they said, well, you've got to go to Boston to look at this equipment that we want to buy.
[1:09:22] It's like I don't know anything about ice drink.
[1:09:24] But in the end, we go back, we have a conference meeting, and we got an ice drink, and eventually
[1:09:31] it might be a rough on it.
[1:09:33] Well, I'm sure there will be a rough case.
[1:09:34] The community now is involved in the project and they'll make that happen.
[1:09:38] But some of the main projects, you know, lots of little projects, lots of projects
[1:09:43] have made it to a different, like old name and throw the terminal at the, or consider
[1:09:49] the visitors bureau office buildings.
[1:09:52] Lee Mary, by Beth, you know, was a dream that was here before.
[1:09:56] I started, certainly helped make it.
[1:09:58] I put in a project, you know, we're with the CTC and understanding why we need to spend money on pedestrian-type projects and it's been a challenge, but it's been fun and I'd like to make a difference in the community.
[1:10:12] Thanks, Peter.
[1:10:13] One of the things that Chief also, you know, we got an audit just after Chief was here from the Department of Justice,
[1:10:22] can see us and see how we're doing on our outreach to minority groups and how we implement
[1:10:28] what's required by federal law. And one of the things that having the chief implemented
[1:10:34] at the program in Hispanic outreach really helped us educate the Department of Justice on what we
[1:10:40] are, what we were starting to do, and the outreach that we were done. So sometimes I should
[1:10:45] And there's up here, and it made a difference in the audit outcome.
[1:10:51] So, you're not going to do that, please.
[1:10:54] Do you see there are so many people in your 19th century
[1:10:57] that I'm going to put you down to the question.
[1:11:01] Oh, there's two.
[1:11:03] Yes, and if you have to see it, please,
[1:11:05] we're done with this as a new one.
[1:11:06] Okay, what do you think?
[1:11:11] I
[1:11:34] may mention for Pete.
[1:11:35] He's been good at work with his last little over years
[1:11:37] since I've been here with it.
[1:11:38] Also, if you'd like to, there's two items
[1:11:40] on consent that Peter's worked on. So if you'd like to have him do a half-hour presentation,
[1:11:47] that would be fine as well. But now he's been great to work with as his keyboards
[1:11:52] in the transition. It's one of a couple of comments actually with many things.
[1:11:55] Well, I'd like to opportunity to speak highly of them and other venues as well.
[1:12:02] But that's great to have those excellent employees here. And I think it speaks well over the town
[1:12:06] and well-behaved staff to have the quality
[1:12:07] and the caliber of people while working
[1:12:09] for the government of Lex.
[1:12:10] Thank you.
[1:12:12] Well, knowing that Peter has been in this room
[1:12:13] with us until 1030 on several iterations,
[1:12:16] I think we'll forego those positions.
[1:12:18] That's a huge achievement.
[1:12:21] That does make it sound like a consent agenda.
[1:12:24] Are there any items that someone would like to pull?
[1:12:26] I'd like to point number six.
[1:12:31] Anything else?
[1:12:32] Where has everyone looked for a motion?
[1:12:33] No, they may not like to make a motion
[1:12:34] Council approve item 3, 4, 5, and 7.
[1:12:39] We have a motion in the second.
[1:12:40] Well, call vote, please hear me.
[1:12:43] Yes.
[1:12:44] Yes.
[1:12:45] Yes.
[1:12:46] Yes.
[1:12:47] Yes.
[1:12:47] Yes.
[1:12:48] Yes.
[1:12:48] Motion passes 5, 0.
[1:12:51] John, number 6.
[1:12:52] Number 6, table, franchise, and pay funds.
[1:12:56] If that's right, I can just wondering if this is the recent resources that we can use
[1:13:02] for hard-worn equipment to enhance the experience for the public of meetings and
[1:13:07] streets in perhaps elsewhere, and I'm just hoping to make sure it's on your way
[1:13:12] out that we start working on a program to kind of pull these things together.
[1:13:16] Yeah, and I think there may be resources in the community that will need to contribute
[1:13:19] time and effort to get some stuff together, so we can really enhance the public's
[1:13:24] engagement with our meetings and other people's meetings.
[1:13:27] Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing that you can spend that one percent
[1:13:32] So we know what we're planning together. We can start doing something that we're actually moving forward with that.
[1:13:37] We have a design plan for Sweet Z in particular.
[1:13:41] There's other elements with the peg channels. You can do them coordinating.
[1:13:44] We've had discussions with education side as well as some individuals in the community.
[1:13:49] Who could utilize that type of equipment and types of capabilities that the funding can help bring to the town.
[1:13:54] It's challenging the O&M afterwards, so I've mentioned earlier on capital projects.
[1:13:58] Fage is limited to just capital improvement.
[1:14:02] That was a good question, members.
[1:14:03] Then do you want to make the mission?
[1:14:04] Yes, I'll make a motion that we put me on the spot here.
[1:14:09] Where are the reading and dot by title only in order to appear in the reporting
[1:14:12] Chapter 5.32 of the time and then with this municipal code,
[1:14:15] continue to regulate some cable television services for a second.
[1:14:19] Okay, we have a motion.
[1:14:20] I get for a couple of 15.
[1:14:22] Yes, sir.
[1:14:26] Yes, yes, yes, yes, motion has to spy zero. That takes us on to our policy matters. The first one being
[1:14:33] Demi law recommendations for an interim funding cycle for measure R and U effects.
[1:14:39] I believe you're up, Dana.
[1:14:41] Get up from a good quick introduction on this is part of the contract with MLA. One of the requirements was to look at at least an initial allocation of funding coming forward
[1:14:51] this winter cycle. A lot of the push on that was pending a lot of the non-profits and
[1:15:00] Budgets and timelines in those types of elements. The other request we looked at is as a way to streamline the process.
[1:15:07] And so some of that will be discussed this evening. I will note that the package of information came out after the NLR meeting on Monday.
[1:15:15] So we didn't have it when the, obviously when the agenda went out the week before that information has come out.
[1:15:20] It's ungrantica, stand copies of the provided to the council and there's also copies of the public in the back if anybody wishes to look at that.
[1:15:26] So with that, we'll turn it over to Danut to kind of walk through what's before you in terms of the,
[1:15:33] what we'll call an interim funding cycle, which means you may have another one,
[1:15:36] you know, we don't have to wait a year if you will,
[1:15:38] to be able to continue to move items forward in the large work program.
[1:15:46] Danut, Danut, Danut Stroud,
[1:15:49] Chair of MLR.
[1:15:51] And thank you for Danut for setting the context for why we're here this evening.
[1:15:55] are contract with the town required that we
[1:15:59] come forward with an initial allocation recommendation
[1:16:01] to be completed by February 15th, 2015.
[1:16:07] And I'm going to walk you through the cycle.
[1:16:10] We're going to be a couple of days off on that.
[1:16:13] But I think that's because of when you meet.
[1:16:16] So it wasn't our issue.
[1:16:19] To take me through this, there are three documents
[1:16:20] that were provided in, as Dan said,
[1:16:24] after our meeting on Monday, and the three look like this.
[1:16:30] The first one is the interim funding cycle.
[1:16:32] It's a colored document, and it's a flow chart.
[1:16:36] We're going to start with that one.
[1:16:38] After when we're finished with that one, we're going to go right into the interim funding cycle
[1:16:42] scope and instructions document, and when we're finished with that, we're going to go right
[1:16:46] into the funding request form.
[1:16:48] I'm asking you to hold your questions until we go through all three of these sections,
[1:16:52] As I think, as we get to each of them, perhaps your questions will be answered as we go through them.
[1:17:01] The first one is the interim funding cycle flow chart.
[1:17:06] We had a couple of groups working on this that are MLR committees.
[1:17:11] We have an allocations committee, we have a strategy committee, and we also have a reconciliation committee,
[1:17:15] and all three have contributed to how these documents look.
[1:17:19] At the top of the document, you'll see that it's draft, so we're intended to get your recommendations this evening and a potential approval and if you have any edits to that, we will certainly make those in order for you to approve them, so it isn't a draft format.
[1:17:36] This is intended to be the interim funding cycle for 2015.
[1:17:42] And the reason that it says 2015 is because of the calendar, when we look at awarding funds
[1:17:49] in this interim funding cycle in February, in a parallel process we are working on what's
[1:17:54] being called a primary funding cycle and the initial recommendation that is going to be coming
[1:18:00] out with that primary funding cycle is for application periods to open up in October of 2015 with
[1:18:07] review process to occur through November December and with allocations being approved in January
[1:18:13] of 2016. So when we looked at the calendar we realized this really is going to be the funding
[1:18:19] cycle for 2015. And we had this discussion on our meeting the other day for anybody who has a project,
[1:18:28] or anybody who is wanting to apply for funding through measure R measure U, they will come through
[1:18:34] this interim funding cycle.
[1:18:37] Upon your approval of this document either tonight or when you do approve it, we will
[1:18:43] make the cycle documents available on our website, NamethlakesRecreation.org, and they will
[1:18:50] be available for downloading and for completion off of our website.
[1:18:56] If you do approve them, everything that we launched on Friday, the 19th of December, with
[1:19:01] The closing application period January 12th of 2015, so not quite a month in there and we're going to be going over some holiday periods.
[1:19:13] But we are providing an opportunity for the public to come forward and provide their documents by January 12th.
[1:19:19] Upon receipt of those documents, we will have an allocation committee, review those applications and those what we're calling request forms.
[1:19:27] And identify if there's any gaps or any missing information in those request forms, reach out to the potential applicants and advise them that they will be required to come to a January 28th, 2015 meeting to provide the answers and clarifications to the gaps that will exist in their initial applications.
[1:19:45] I want to point out that the January 28th meeting is not intended to be what used to be a public presentation meeting.
[1:19:53] It is really intended for the MLR board to get that clarification from the applicants for the project.
[1:20:06] So there's not an expectation that there's presentations to be made.
[1:20:10] The upon review on the 28th, the board will then go do its deliberation and if there
[1:20:18] is any need to based on what we hear from the applicants or any questions or concerns or need
[1:20:25] for an additional meeting, we have built some time in between the January 28th meeting and
[1:20:31] our February 9th meeting for an extra board meeting if we need to.
[1:20:35] So we just want to point that out in case we run into a time crunch.
[1:20:39] Generally 28, we then move into February 9th,
[1:20:43] is where we would make our recommendations as the advisory body.
[1:20:48] The board would make that approve those recommendations
[1:20:51] and then we intend to bring those recommendations to the council
[1:20:54] on February 18th for your consideration and review.
[1:20:58] I want to point out that our meetings or public,
[1:21:04] all of our meetings are public. In between, where our forms are due and when the full board meets,
[1:21:11] our allocations committee will be holding its public meeting to review those applications,
[1:21:15] and that too would be a public meeting not intended to again, to be a presentation meeting and all,
[1:21:21] but those all are public meetings. So that's our timeline and that's what we've focused on in order
[1:21:27] to meet the deliverable date that's if noticed in our contract with the town. The second document I'd
[1:21:32] take you through is the MLR funding request, or excuse me, the, sorry, the scope and
[1:21:37] instructions document looks like this, it's a one sheet and I will, let you know that again,
[1:21:43] all three of our committees working on this and helped inform this document. So if you don't mind,
[1:21:48] I will take you through it because this is the scope and the instructions and the area
[1:21:53] focused that MLR is looking out for this interim funding cycle.
[1:21:58] I think we want to note, it is interim, so we're trying to limit it to a certain extent where we possibly can.
[1:22:07] I think we're looking at this as a stopgap or a bridge, really between the previous measure arm measure U processes and this primary funding cycle that we will be coming forward to you with later on in 2015.
[1:22:20] So think of this interim as a bridge for us to look at.
[1:22:23] A couple of things on the scope of this document that I want to point out.
[1:22:27] The first one is, obviously, we are recommending body to the council.
[1:22:32] It is you who makes all of the funding recommendations and funding approvals.
[1:22:37] So I want to make sure we're clear on that.
[1:22:40] There is bullet point number three under the scope line.
[1:22:45] We'll talk about all funding projects to receive a letter of engagement or contract from the town of Mammoth Lakes
[1:22:51] and that you're going to forever receive those letter engagement and contracts also must produce a project performance report in a review.
[1:22:59] That's to clarify that it's not MLR that is executing needs agreements with these applicants.
[1:23:04] This is going through the town.
[1:23:07] So we want to point out that it will be the town who will be executing and administering, if you will, those contracts and those agreements and receiving those post review reports
[1:23:19] that we intended to come back to MLR also in order to review and make sure that the project was completed.
[1:23:30] I am also into that.
[1:23:33] For those of you who have the colored version of this, we have red language in there to say that we're trying to get a little review of the opinion of
[1:23:48] to public funds and we have sent in scenario to the town attorney to come in on at some
[1:23:57] point because there is some question as to if there are funds that are being used for an
[1:24:04] organization's fundraising effort and those funds are then in turn donated or gifted to someone else
[1:24:13] is their gift of public funds so we have left this language blank because we were hoping to get
[1:24:20] at some point in the not too distant future and opinion from the town attorney on this gift of
[1:24:26] public funds document and I don't know if you want to provide that tonight or if I give it an update.
[1:24:30] I've already provided that opinion to the town manager and I think it'll be shared with the
[1:24:34] council with the MLR Board and due course. The nutshell version is that it's a really
[1:24:39] facts specific analysis. It's very detail-oriented. It has to be done on a case-by-case basis.
[1:24:45] The general idea is that any expenditure that the town makes has to sort of public purpose primarily.
[1:24:51] It's okay if it instantly has some private benefit to somebody, but really it has to sort of public purpose.
[1:24:58] So I think that making expenditures that are intended to help somebody with fundraising might have to really
[1:25:07] that's offered in to articulate a public purpose for that, but we can talk about this more
[1:25:13] perhaps offline and after Dan is shared, the advice that I've provided.
[1:25:18] Perfect.
[1:25:19] Thank you.
[1:25:19] That's where we're looking for.
[1:25:23] The bullet point number five, when we talk about leveraged funding, this is really where
[1:25:28] we get into MLR's desire and focus if you will for this internet funding cycle.
[1:25:36] We are working on what we're calling the long-term MLR strategy and it's the intent that
[1:25:42] when that strategy is complete, that will serve as that focus for future R and U funding.
[1:25:49] We're not there yet with that final strategy.
[1:25:52] So we're pointing out in here that it is our intent to provide that strategy at some point.
[1:25:59] But we want to point out that our core component is the facilitation of better partnerships
[1:26:06] and coordination among town organizations and privileging projects that add long-term value
[1:26:11] to the community and develop shared resources for other groups, events, or projects.
[1:26:17] This priority will figure prominently in the board's deliberations during this interim funding cycle.
[1:26:22] That's the focus for this round.
[1:26:24] and we're providing that for potential applicants,
[1:26:28] so that they can address that and take heed to that
[1:26:31] as they're coming forward with their possible applications.
[1:26:35] Both point number six references, no marketing.
[1:26:39] This comes as a result of recommendations
[1:26:41] from our reconciliation committee as to previous uses
[1:26:46] of measures R and U.
[1:26:49] We certainly, we MLR, we certainly recognize
[1:26:52] that marketing is a component of a project and whether it is an event or whether it's an activity
[1:26:59] or whether it's a game or or facility, there is a marketing element to it.
[1:27:06] I would also also believe that measures are measured you are not intended to be used for
[1:27:13] marketing per se and that we have an opportunity through this switch that we're talking about
[1:27:19] to actively engage with our resources that are available to us,
[1:27:24] to help develop a much broader collaborative marketing effort.
[1:27:28] We have MLT that's in place, we have the change in its in place,
[1:27:31] we have MLR and we have others who can help bring some resources
[1:27:34] to a much broader collaborative process for specifically event marketing
[1:27:41] moving forward.
[1:27:43] So we say that marketing, as it's been previously referred to,
[1:27:48] is not going to be considered a legitimate expenditure
[1:27:50] for this interim funding cycle.
[1:27:54] And we believe that there are other opportunities
[1:27:56] to collaborate and to cooperate with these other resources
[1:28:01] to help with the marketing for events
[1:28:04] that have historically received funding.
[1:28:08] We also want to point out that the benefit
[1:28:11] to specifically to events, as it relates to our new funding,
[1:28:15] has to do with potential infrastructure needs
[1:28:17] they might have. And if we're talking about helping to funds where their infrastructure
[1:28:22] funds needs, that might free up their own budget to spend their money on their individual
[1:28:29] marketing efforts. So we're kind of offering up, we can't do marketing, we won't do it, but
[1:28:35] we would really like to help you out on this side and talking about your infrastructure needs.
[1:28:40] So it's hoping to be a win-win for all parties. The last bullet point into that is what we called
[1:28:46] elective transit, realizing that very specifically and measure you there was an element of
[1:28:52] funding for mobility, and very specifically, over the last few years, there have been
[1:28:58] funding funds set aside for enhanced trolley service for our specialty events. And we intend to
[1:29:07] fund trolley service for these events, but we want to do it in collaboration with the town of
[1:29:12] And so, we put great on the spot today and said, gosh, we think this is a great idea.
[1:29:19] Let's try and figure it out.
[1:29:21] What we're saying is we will work with the town of Memphis to have them tell us what procedure
[1:29:27] they would like to put in place for those event organizers who need trolley service
[1:29:33] to communicate what those needs are so that the town comes forward in partnership with
[1:29:40] to submit the request for trolley service for all of our events.
[1:29:46] Look at it as a one-stop shop.
[1:29:48] In Rome, we say,
[1:29:52] town to advise him along the correct contact.
[1:29:54] That's because we're going to work with Grady.
[1:29:56] He's going to tell us this is who should...
[1:30:00] In the town, somebody should be sending their information for trolley service for this round.
[1:30:05] And we think it's a much more convenient way of doing it, so there's not just individual groups coming in with their trolley needs.
[1:30:10] Rather, it's the town coordinating it and working with Estates to get all the funding needed for our trolley service.
[1:30:18] I want to point out, Monday, January 12th, 5 p.m., the deadline for submitting the applications.
[1:30:23] I know, excuse me, the request forms.
[1:30:26] There are three ways that you can submit these via email
[1:30:28] to mammoth lakes recreation, to our mail
[1:30:31] or you can deliver in person to the MLT office,
[1:30:34] which is where we also will be setting up my headquarters.
[1:30:38] It will be the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that it's there
[1:30:42] and received by 5pm.
[1:30:43] It's going to be up to that applicant to confirm the receipt
[1:30:46] that they've made that time.
[1:30:48] So that's our scope and instructions.
[1:30:49] The last document I'd like to take you through is the funding request form.
[1:30:54] Having been through measure R application setup process and also being a part of the measure you application set of process here's another one to look at.
[1:31:08] The idea and the intent was to make this a little bit easier for applicants to really focus in on a few key pieces of information that MLR is looking for as it relates to future funding.
[1:31:21] So, very specifically, we've identified, first of all, that project has to fall under or
[1:31:27] does it fall under one of the more, one or more in the following categories.
[1:31:31] And the categories that are on there are recreation, mobility, trails, arts and culture and
[1:31:36] parks.
[1:31:36] Those line up directly with measures are in you.
[1:31:41] Question number two is very specific to the supplanting question that comes up, and so we're
[1:31:47] just wanting to get some clarification from the applicants on whether there has been previous
[1:31:51] funding for this project. Question number three is relative to this being a one-time
[1:31:57] funding request or if there is going to be a requirement of maintenance funding or such
[1:32:01] down the road. Question number four is very specifically have you received funding from MLR.
[1:32:09] This will be into the future measure or measure you. This is really to track the history of those
[1:32:15] potential previous projects.
[1:32:17] Question five is kind of a big one.
[1:32:21] Are all the contingencies, permits, agreements,
[1:32:23] and approvals in place for this project?
[1:32:25] So yes, we know an answer.
[1:32:27] If it's a no, then we're asking the applicant
[1:32:30] to include in the executive summary, the timeline
[1:32:34] for which there's going to be delivering
[1:32:36] and getting all of these documents and regulations in place.
[1:32:43] We are asking on question number six,
[1:32:44] how the funds are intended to be used and when they will be needed.
[1:32:49] So all of these planning operations maintenance facilities really intended to be kind of
[1:32:53] the timeline for the project.
[1:32:56] And I remember seven were asking if this project is jammed, if it's private, nonprofit,
[1:33:01] partnership, and listing all the importance involved.
[1:33:04] I remember eight really is kind of focusing back on all of the potential sources that are
[1:33:11] therefore applicants to be considering for potential projects. Some of these have been
[1:33:17] formally adopted by the town council. Some of these have been accepted by the town,
[1:33:24] but all of these have come through the town at some point. And so we're just asking for the
[1:33:29] applicant to acknowledge where their project may have come from. I'm them nine rasking to list all
[1:33:34] the additional funding sources including in-kind services for the total cost of project.
[1:33:39] Item number 10 is really outlining what we would like to see in a one-page executive summary and then a number 11 is to attach a budget for the budget for the project
[1:33:50] intended to be a much more streamlined
[1:33:54] Application process
[1:33:55] So with that I would
[1:33:58] Answer any questions you might have about the three documents. Why don't we go back to the top and do them document by document?
[1:34:05] if anybody's got questions on the funding cycle workflow?
[1:34:10] I just met him here, just kind of a point of order.
[1:34:11] How do you anticipate engaging with this from any action that we might take?
[1:34:18] I'm not sure, I just...
[1:34:20] Well, I guess my question is what is...
[1:34:22] I mean, there's nothing hard packet that describes what action is anticipated.
[1:34:26] Are you just familiar with making providing recommendations or comments or...
[1:34:30] That you're approving a cycle so that it can be posted and applicants could get that information.
[1:34:35] and this Friday and start working on it to have it done by January 12.
[1:34:39] Okay, thank you.
[1:34:39] So we are looking, we are looking to get approval.
[1:34:44] My absent questions, why did for my fellow council?
[1:34:47] Anybody else have counted from the workflow?
[1:34:50] Did you want?
[1:34:51] Yeah, people.
[1:34:52] No questions.
[1:34:54] I have some questions that I want.
[1:34:57] The first thing would be, this is a new process, which we're rolling out here, which
[1:35:02] We've been through Majora, as you are a folks in the community familiar with that, and I appreciate the work that the MLR committee and board has done to bring these things together.
[1:35:14] A couple of questions, is there, you guys already staff at this point?
[1:35:18] So I'm wondering if there are questions coming from potential applicants, how do you, how does MLR engaging with just general questions?
[1:35:25] What are you going to application not to help me understand what this application is and that kind of stuff?
[1:35:30] So, we have a website that we are being extremely dependent upon to use as a communication
[1:35:36] channel for providing information, and that's where we would be providing these documents
[1:35:44] as where we will be providing the instructions that's where people will be using to submit
[1:35:49] their information with.
[1:35:50] We have an email address that comes to our executive committee that we can answer any questions with.
[1:36:01] So from a information place, we're going to be utilizing the website.
[1:36:08] I do want to point out that we can have a very aggressive outreach communication effort to help publicize that this is going to go live.
[1:36:16] And we will be tapping into first of all our own existing database of people who are following MLR.
[1:36:23] We are also going to be asking MLT to distribute it through their means.
[1:36:27] We're going to be talking and asking the Chamber of Commerce to distribute it among their folks.
[1:36:32] We will be asking Stewart if we can send it out through students' news as an announcement.
[1:36:37] We intend to be reaching out to our local media, including print and radio, to broadcast it that way.
[1:36:44] It was brought up the other day very, very, very well that we can have this translated into Spanish and so we will get that translated and get that communication out as well.
[1:37:00] So, so we're going to do an outreach that way, but we will be utilizing our website and that info at mammothlakespecreation.org email address has the place for people to get the information.
[1:37:12] So, as my questions will meet, that's great on the outreach, but when these things start coming in,
[1:37:17] I'm assuming I guess as the volunteer members, the board and various committees are going to have to answer the questions there, kind of stuff.
[1:37:25] Okay, another question is between our new, there's only one set set of set aside funds, which is the money for the NLTS,
[1:37:36] which is a separate pool within these RNU, that there's the other one that's the only one I'm aware of at this point.
[1:37:41] Do you anticipate applications coming in for that, for those funds through this process as well?
[1:37:47] For the MLTS, for the trails, for the $300,000, I don't know that we have clearly identified that.
[1:37:59] I think there's several parallel processes going on including MLTS identifying potential projects.
[1:38:07] Our committee identifying potential projects.
[1:38:09] I think there is an assumption that they don't come through because they are living in the $300,000 that have been allocated for the trail system, but if you have a recommendation that you would like to provide, you can certainly do that.
[1:38:30] We did not discuss it at the MLR board level.
[1:38:35] We did not debate that or discuss that.
[1:38:38] So if you have recommendation notes, make on that.
[1:38:40] Let me answer that.
[1:38:42] Because it was discussed very quickly in the board meeting,
[1:38:46] and the reality is that something might come through this way,
[1:38:50] and then the decision would be which way it would go.
[1:38:52] But if you remember when that 300,000 for the five years
[1:38:56] was first approved, is it was always said that that may or may not cover all the requests that
[1:39:04] trails could be funded above the 300,000 if there was a reason to be so.
[1:39:08] I understand, I'm just, I'm concerned about that.
[1:39:10] But we're actually trying, you know, we're trying to look at an interim cycle here and that the full cycle
[1:39:15] I think is going to be something different, the primary cycle.
[1:39:18] Okay, and if people, my trails then, as Emma Lord is working through it, come up with a recommendation
[1:39:25] and refer it to 300,000, or put it in us?
[1:39:28] Well, I'll just, I'll let some general concern about all the work that the MOTCC put into
[1:39:32] this.
[1:39:33] That's right.
[1:39:34] That's still there.
[1:39:35] That's also, if I may address that, too, is the allocation of 300,000 has happened.
[1:39:39] So it's already been, by the ordinance, it doesn't have to go back to an application process
[1:39:43] for the 300,000, for example.
[1:39:45] I understand that.
[1:39:45] But I'm not going to go specific to projects within 300,000.
[1:39:49] I'm set aside.
[1:39:49] And those projects are still on a work program that will come forward to ML on to the council,
[1:39:54] but what would be an application because it's already been allocated for that.
[1:39:57] Okay, but again, so in conversation with friends at the end of today,
[1:40:01] talking about the Somersourcehip Program coming forward next summer,
[1:40:04] is because those applications all in the past went to the MLTSCC.
[1:40:09] And I appreciate very much the way they transition.
[1:40:12] There's some transitionary things going on here,
[1:40:15] and I just want to make sure that the board in MLR has the opportunity
[1:40:18] that they're not going to get overloaded over and around by someone,
[1:40:21] anything that wasn't kind of linked over.
[1:40:23] That's why trails is there on number one.
[1:40:25] Okay, but I understand.
[1:40:26] But so if word beersley from friends and you were saying,
[1:40:29] where do I go reply when past years
[1:40:32] are going to the MLTSCC?
[1:40:33] It hasn't been a number of major application in the website.
[1:40:37] Oh, okay, so if I could follow them to this point,
[1:40:41] which is a question of any dates behind the weekend
[1:40:45] to this February 18th date that are sort of in place
[1:40:49] that this process has to happen exactly
[1:40:51] on this time schedule.
[1:40:52] So I'm wondering if it might be helpful to maybe to for M.O. on the town to have some conversations
[1:40:57] to say, you might need a couple more weeks to answer some of these kinds of questions.
[1:41:01] I've got some more questions coming up.
[1:41:03] I'm just wondering, generally speaking, there's any reasons to make this happen.
[1:41:07] John, is that the MLTS Committee of MLR?
[1:41:10] Can we have enough acronyms here?
[1:41:13] It's working in a parallel line on what would come forward for the recommendations for what's existing out there
[1:41:21] MLTSCC things, determining what the status of current projects and those
[1:41:26] reserves that were either designated and designated.
[1:41:29] It is also within the contract to put together the recommendation for the
[1:41:34] 15, 16, 300,000.
[1:41:37] So if something comes in this way and it's determined as trails related, that's a
[1:41:41] parallel process that's going on at the same time by a different committee.
[1:41:45] Okay, but then but your saying is it would come back, the parallel committee
[1:41:48] to the trails committee and the general applications it would all come back to Council on the February 18.
[1:41:55] It may or may not because MLTS doesn't have a deadline just to include in the budget.
[1:42:01] It's probably parallel.
[1:42:02] But if we get the information in this way and it's clear that it should go down the other track,
[1:42:08] then we have the ability to do that.
[1:42:10] Okay. I would just offer that if MLR and town staff, you got some things maybe to work out here that I'm not seeing any.
[1:42:17] And also, you know, sensitive to applicants over the holidays, working on applications for
[1:42:22] processes, they don't understand, they have something done by January 12.
[1:42:25] I'm inclined to say, if you guys need a little bit more time to do it, I don't see you
[1:42:28] rush from my perspective.
[1:42:29] Well, we're not going to change the contract at this point, are we?
[1:42:33] Well, no.
[1:42:34] I'm thinking in terms of the interests of, well, for the interests of the process, we're
[1:42:39] getting MLL up and running, if we're having good applications.
[1:42:42] If we wanted to, you know, I would find this change the contract, let's push it back.
[1:42:48] I think that you're going to be enough information provided from the fast track to weed all of that out.
[1:42:54] Okay, I just, I just, again, I'll pretty, that's only that might make sense.
[1:42:57] I'm certainly going to be interested in, I just think the idea is to get this thing going.
[1:43:01] And, you know, if there's a problem, you know.
[1:43:04] Then we'll deal with it.
[1:43:04] We'll deal with it.
[1:43:05] Okay.
[1:43:06] But technically, the MLTS answer does not have to be part of this because this is to recommend our in-year funding,
[1:43:14] which is MLTS is part of our, but it's already allocated.
[1:43:21] But again, if the way this happened last couple years is folks who go to the MLTSCC and speaks specifically the MLTSCC about recommendations for funding for those projects.
[1:43:32] And my question is, should those same parties come in through this process like this and should they, should they understand that's how it's going to work?
[1:43:39] I would think that they should, it's the way to get the information to us, the quickest in the file.
[1:43:43] Okay, I guess, again, that should be, I hope that that's clear in this part of the outreach stand of the
[1:43:47] you're talking about that any applications for funds from the 300,000 for the MLTS projects should be on this timeline
[1:43:54] in meeting these deadlines and submitting these applications.
[1:43:57] Yep, I think what Joe's indicated is that there is that MLTS committee of the MLR
[1:44:03] is going to that parallel process to identify those projects for funding out of that $300,000.
[1:44:09] And so where we have an application coming in or excuse me, a request form that should be over
[1:44:15] here with the trails, we will redirect that into it.
[1:44:18] And it would be very easy to add the current recipients under the $300,000 to the outreach.
[1:44:25] Very simple. There's only two or three.
[1:44:30] Okay, so those are my questions in the first page.
[1:44:34] Okay, anybody else on first place?
[1:44:38] No.
[1:44:38] Okay.
[1:44:39] Let's go open instructions.
[1:44:42] Yeah, I just want to comment the first paragraph.
[1:44:47] Psycho for awarding grants to be changed or awarding funding.
[1:44:53] Just let it out of the word of grants.
[1:44:55] And, oh, in the first sentence?
[1:45:00] We can voting funds, funding, okay.
[1:45:09] We've got a couple of questions that are mayor of what's appropriate.
[1:45:15] Question, what is privileging projects? I just want a definition of that.
[1:45:23] We didn't discuss that. We didn't provide a definition that I think it was intended.
[1:45:31] And I'm returning to Tom and we're going to help draft this if we want to provide a specific
[1:45:37] definition to it.
[1:45:38] But really,
[1:45:41] I want to speak for you guys.
[1:45:43] The privilege.
[1:45:44] I think we first read it, I read it as leveraging, so I wasn't sure if that was a typographical
[1:45:47] logic.
[1:45:48] No, it's part of it.
[1:45:50] That's the intent behind it, is the leveraging side of it, so it's not.
[1:45:54] All right.
[1:45:54] That's right.
[1:45:55] Yeah.
[1:45:56] Okay.
[1:45:56] Privileging.
[1:45:57] And if leveraging makes more sense to add it in there.
[1:46:00] In changing the word from privilege into leveraging, it doesn't change the content.
[1:46:06] We can make that more clear.
[1:46:08] It's a leveraging project.
[1:46:10] That's right.
[1:46:11] Makes sense.
[1:46:12] Let's clear, I think.
[1:46:16] Okay.
[1:46:18] Anything you'll find?
[1:46:19] Scubbin instructions page.
[1:46:21] Yeah, so I've got a couple questions that I'm here.
[1:46:24] Both number three, which you discussed the world of the town in contracting,
[1:46:30] The ministering contracts on the rest of it has the, if you had a conversation with MLR about defining the financial responsibilities for those.
[1:46:38] Yeah, or the only answer that discussion was really the talent still after we've seen it as town money and still the contracting, so the life, the other issues to go with that, or we do the letter of agreement with each of the agencies, they have to submit the proper accounting records so we can actually account for that otherwise we're held accountable for information we don't have from an audit standpoint or financial standpoint.
[1:46:57] So, the recommendation comes through, we would actually process those payments as we have
[1:47:03] historically and then the element with the post-reporting and follow-up, we would get the
[1:47:08] information, but LML would actually be doing the review and making any types of comments
[1:47:13] or recommendations regarding that follow-up work.
[1:47:15] Good.
[1:47:16] That makes good sense.
[1:47:17] My question is, how is the town staff being compensated to do that work, is that I mean,
[1:47:23] I mean, I'm not saying it's inappropriate for all new funds to be used to do that, but
[1:47:27] I'm just wondering if you guys have had that conversation that was going to pay for it.
[1:47:29] We have not put a request in for funding at the talent staff level.
[1:47:33] So that will take a look at it, something we could take a look at, and is it a flat dollar
[1:47:37] amount per or do we just eat it?
[1:47:39] Yeah.
[1:47:40] Well, I would just encourage you guys to have that conversation figured out how that's going to
[1:47:43] get paid for it.
[1:47:44] It's a very important function that's going to be paid and being played and I think it's
[1:47:47] going to be very important to be forward looking at that figure out.
[1:47:52] I love this funding very much.
[1:47:53] appreciate that NLR is working on a larger strategic kind of a plan that comes back on the
[1:47:57] fall, and I think that we're all looking forward to that. Making this all over a lot more
[1:48:02] efficiency move forward is good, and I think the comments about the collective transit
[1:48:06] thing is very encouraging because it kind of reinforces the way the world, but the town staff is
[1:48:11] playing in the communications with the forest service. I think when 10 on, when you guys, the NLR
[1:48:16] bird can be putting something together where the town is communicating with that stuff from sort
[1:48:20] a kind of a one-stop kind of way to provide mobility enhancements to events or to whatever
[1:48:26] I think it's a very encouraging sort of trend because it's doing a single town application for transit funding, you know,
[1:48:32] versus peace milling it by projects that be a one program that we would run.
[1:48:37] Charging to projects.
[1:48:39] Yeah, that's an encouraging trend.
[1:48:41] I think it's socket accordingly, but one application and otherwise it's peace milled out and it's the more cumbersome
[1:48:47] So let's stream line that process as well.
[1:48:49] Does that still provide the town of flexibility
[1:48:51] to make kind of an ad hoc decision or last minute
[1:48:54] decision on an increase in transit?
[1:48:56] Yeah, but if we have to out that, we have two different levels
[1:48:59] for that.
[1:48:59] One is we want to get a good project scope for the major youth
[1:49:04] funding for mobility.
[1:49:05] We'll do that.
[1:49:07] Last year, we added some additional stuff
[1:49:08] and it came to frankly out of the transit budget.
[1:49:12] And we carry a little bit of a reserve
[1:49:13] and there to be able to do that.
[1:49:15] So if we have to respond to something,
[1:49:16] We have the flexibility to do that, and not have to come back through an overexpander
[1:49:21] request additional measure you fund it.
[1:49:24] So our intent would be to manage that in the same process.
[1:49:27] We asked that question also, and Grady was quick to point out that contingency is always built
[1:49:32] into that application also, so they have the history of the trolley service from last year
[1:49:39] and where there were some bumps in the road because of increased needs or didn't know
[1:49:44] So there's some history to refer to, there's also a contingency to build into the application to anticipate something that may not have been addressed or that we can't see what's ahead.
[1:49:56] Sure.
[1:49:57] I just wanted to make sure we had that flexibility because I think, for the most part, we can plan a year ahead.
[1:50:02] We know what our peak weekends are, peak events, but there might be something unforeseen that comes out where we do need that spot gap.
[1:50:10] I think this is summer.
[1:50:11] Right.
[1:50:12] Okay.
[1:50:12] But let's
[1:50:16] be any other questions about the scope and instructions.
[1:50:20] Can I just real quickly, the new marketing piece.
[1:50:27] I understand the idea behind it, but I think there's some projects, because it's not answered.
[1:50:34] Where's the marketing going to be coming from?
[1:50:37] So I think we have to be able to answer that in the application.
[1:50:42] I think what we're talking about is this development of this collaborative marketing strategy.
[1:50:50] We MLR, we have the opportunity to connect with MLT and to connect with the Chamber of Commerce and to connect with some of those resources to develop
[1:50:59] what that collaborative marketing solution and strategy might be.
[1:51:04] So I have every confidence that we're going to be able to find and be able to put together the strategy for where
[1:51:12] even producers can go to get some marketing support.
[1:51:18] And actually there's another wrinkle with that, too,
[1:51:21] is let's say it's $100,000 event.
[1:51:25] There are other things that are going to fit into
[1:51:27] data's previously saying about infrastructure,
[1:51:29] things like that that can be requested through these funds
[1:51:33] and the marketing capabilities from other funds
[1:51:35] and donations and whatever.
[1:51:36] So we're not saying that these projects don't have marketing.
[1:51:40] I understand that, but I think within the application and I'm getting to the next page is that
[1:51:48] question should be asked, and you know, how are you going to market here?
[1:51:52] Oh, you want to know how they're going to market? If it's on the vent or an active,
[1:51:56] some kind of, you want to know how they're going to market? And how would you know, be involved
[1:52:01] in health? I think that's a strong addition.
[1:52:06] Did you have a particular number that you wanted to
[1:52:15] I think you know, part of number nine now in number ten we're already talking about target markets is that
[1:52:24] Okay, look at us to be factored into 11, you know
[1:52:28] That's the budget food
[1:52:30] Well Roger
[1:52:31] You're marketing plan for you
[1:52:34] Okay, we'll get a place to put it okay
[1:52:40] So that we know
[1:52:41] Yes.
[1:52:42] Yes.
[1:52:42] Yes.
[1:52:45] And somebody else on the scope and instructions.
[1:52:56] Okay.
[1:53:00] I'm just going to address the wording that says privilege and product projects.
[1:53:07] And basically that's just speaking to you that if you have a project that's coming
[1:53:13] forward that is a partnership or a coordination of them among other
[1:53:17] panel organizations and that it's added long-term values that that is
[1:53:22] going to possibly have a priority put to that. Those are some of the things
[1:53:28] that we're looking for. It's not necessarily that we're shouldn't be
[1:53:33] leveraging but that is you know we're asking us how are you going to weigh these
[1:53:39] when they're coming forward. If they have these pieces to them, then that they would possibly
[1:53:48] would float to the top of it one. Okay. Okay, so that case privileging is more like a prioritizing
[1:53:58] for a talking point or to some degree. So, because we don't have a special memory that we've
[1:54:04] It just ran a little, so I'm just trying to get where your definition is, so I can.
[1:54:11] Does that make sense?
[1:54:11] Yeah, that makes that tool sense.
[1:54:15] I just don't know that I'm not a work provision.
[1:54:17] We'll get up to the source.
[1:54:20] Yeah.
[1:54:22] But not leveraging.
[1:54:25] Yeah.
[1:54:31] Okay.
[1:54:32] Anything else on the scope of the instructions document?
[1:54:35] Then, email our funding request for you with the first one to note it is the marking question.
[1:54:44] Others?
[1:54:46] I have a couple.
[1:54:49] First question, I understand that we're looking at an interim funding cycle here.
[1:54:55] Do you have a rough dollar amount of funds that are looking to be expanded in this interim cycle
[1:55:01] Before we get under the law, I want to answer one.
[1:55:04] No, in fact, we're still waiting for a final reconciliation, so that we actually know what funds are available out there.
[1:55:15] We do have a disclaimer in the scope and instructions page, bullet point number two, that we're MLR reserves the right to not recommend funding for all projects or any projects.
[1:55:28] that's kind of the disclaimer of there may be one project that really stands out, there may
[1:55:33] be 20 projects that really stand out, but we are still waiting for a final reconciliation
[1:55:38] to get a final number.
[1:55:39] So no ballpark at this point.
[1:55:40] We have a good cap on anything, we haven't put a limit on anything through this interim
[1:55:45] funding cycle.
[1:55:46] Okay, second question, I think I already know the answer to it, but just for the benefit
[1:55:53] a public for
[1:55:58] questions three. Is this a one-time funding request for this project?
[1:56:03] We'll describe any future operations maintenance or replacement costs. A project requiring future maintenance
[1:56:11] Replacement operations costs is that preclude it from being approved? Is that going to
[1:56:16] Deprived or Deprioritize that? Or what's you just kind of looking for that information?
[1:56:22] It's not really decided in any way shape before.
[1:56:24] It's not intended to wait anything in where the more information that we're able to
[1:56:30] receive will help make a decision will be greatly appreciated.
[1:56:34] It's really intended to make decisions with eyes wide open.
[1:56:38] Sure.
[1:56:39] You know, with Mrs. Information.
[1:56:41] So, good blind-sided five years with that.
[1:56:44] Okay.
[1:56:45] Thank you.
[1:56:47] Is that it?
[1:56:47] That's it for me.
[1:56:48] Thank you.
[1:56:49] Anybody else with questions on the phone?
[1:56:51] No.
[1:56:53] Okay. So, you're right. Because of this way, this came forward with the meeting being on Monday and this being Wednesday, there is no cover sheet, but essentially I think Danny can do it really quickly, but what we're looking for is approval of the three documents and to go ahead with the interim funding cycle. I don't know if you have more you want to say.
[1:57:15] I don't, we are looking for you to approve the interim funding cycle, the timeline, and the funding
[1:57:23] request form with any edits that you have provided us receiving, as well as the two answers
[1:57:30] that we have to get inserted in here relative to the legal opinion from you all about the
[1:57:36] gift of public funds and the instructions from Brady and Stuart as to who gets information
[1:57:42] for a twenty-series.
[1:57:49] If you are on the transit stop, that can go directly to Grady.
[1:57:53] Okay.
[1:57:54] It was not a chance.
[1:57:55] It was a chance.
[1:57:56] It was a chance.
[1:57:57] It was a chance.
[1:57:57] That way.
[1:57:59] We will get that.
[1:58:01] It's done.
[1:58:02] You know what I mean?
[1:58:02] We will get that.
[1:58:03] It's done.
[1:58:07] We can wish you were going to be.
[1:58:09] It's going to be a case by case.
[1:58:10] So there won't be a hard statement.
[1:58:11] You can say, this is, or is it?
[1:58:13] Well, we will be.
[1:58:13] If we put something in there that's, you know, that essentially summarized that any grants would have to serve a public purpose and just leave it at that for now.
[1:58:28] That's a fair summary.
[1:58:30] Okay.
[1:58:30] Sorry to take your help page memo and turn it into seven words.
[1:58:34] I should probably probably want to have some more turtle discussion.
[1:58:37] But I think for this document, that's a good summary.
[1:58:39] Okay. Right. Knowing that, obviously, you do have to see that in a case by case.
[1:58:44] Okay. May I make it in my mic? Two quick points or additional points to share.
[1:58:51] First one is on the funding cycle, we're coming back on February 18th for your council approval of the funding recommendations.
[1:59:01] We want to just remind you that that would also include an action to unfreeze the measure on measure you funds.
[1:59:08] And so that would have to be a step in there because your funds are, you know,
[1:59:13] their frozen and we just want to know that you will be asked to unfreeze them in order
[1:59:18] to help fund these recommendations that might be coming forward.
[1:59:23] Right. And can I answer something to that data?
[1:59:25] And also since we will have more time between then, there would be a magenta coverage sheet and all of that.
[1:59:33] The second point that I wanted to raise with you is that,
[1:59:38] And I didn't do a very good job of explaining this a front.
[1:59:43] The funding request form, and this we received, was really intended to be used as what
[1:59:51] we were internally calling a fast track request form, that would be a part of that primary
[1:59:57] funding cycle that.
[2:00:00] The large award process. And so this this request form calling you kind of triggered the, my one-end to bring this up to your attention is that there is the potential that with that primary funding cycle in place down the road, there will be a much broader and larger application process that goes with it that will get into much greater detail.
[2:00:25] So looking at this interim funding application for this year, it is a bit light, if you will,
[2:00:34] because this is the form that would be used for fast track application.
[2:00:40] Something that we know is going to go very quickly.
[2:00:43] A primary funding cycle, there will be a much larger in-depth application for those types of bigger projects.
[2:00:50] And it's, um, conceivable that questions aren't answered and do this fast track, that that type of
[2:00:57] a project may, may not go through on this interim funding cycle because there's not enough information
[2:01:03] included with it.
[2:01:04] Got it.
[2:01:05] Interremus interim.
[2:01:06] Interremus interim.
[2:01:07] And Ashley, I have one final, um, change in wording, but it's something that I hope you'll let
[2:01:15] the committee work on, and the first of all, when it was scope, where it says town council
[2:01:20] must approve all, and when we're funding recommendations, it does not mean Ellen, and
[2:01:23] the large telling us, telling you, you've got to approve everything we send you, we'll change
[2:01:27] the waiting, it says that you will fit council, it's the final approval.
[2:01:32] Does that mean it's something like, you must, and that was pointed out before you did.
[2:01:37] Very, very sneaky.
[2:01:38] Oh, yeah.
[2:01:39] Why do you need to be that?
[2:01:40] So that's what that waiting will get changed.
[2:01:45] Mayor, I'm wondering if it's appropriate to make
[2:01:47] receive a some motions.
[2:01:49] That would be great.
[2:01:51] One that covered all three pieces might be nice.
[2:01:54] No, I think I think that would be a necessary
[2:01:57] confusing process with this.
[2:01:58] I'm on first.
[2:01:59] If I may, I think maybe it is a little help
[2:02:01] jumping a little bit a little bit along, but I think
[2:02:03] you can move, if you want to move them as
[2:02:05] with the various amendments in place,
[2:02:08] we had no chonad and the committee members
[2:02:10] have no chonad.
[2:02:11] We could also indeed tell each of those amendments
[2:02:13] or not, but I think you could approve all three subject to the consensus amendments that
[2:02:18] we're discussed.
[2:02:19] I think I need to say what that is, if you want.
[2:02:21] Well, I think it must have been a lot easier, Madam Mayor, if we could do it, there's three
[2:02:24] documents here and just do one at a time and kind of, I mean otherwise, you're going to get
[2:02:28] into a motion that they could get pretty likely, it's a deferred year discretion, but I think
[2:02:32] it might make sense of doing in pieces.
[2:02:34] Well, let me hear what you think a motion would be if you were separating one out, would
[2:02:38] not be to accept it with amendments?
[2:02:41] Well, I would make a motion on approving the funding cycle and with the understanding that
[2:02:50] I haven't heard any potential applicants from the public, make any maveny thoughts about
[2:02:55] the timeline, so I'm going to assume that folks may be applying the okay with the timeline
[2:02:59] and to approve this timeline as presented to us this evening.
[2:03:05] I don't have any members to the timeline, second.
[2:03:08] And we have a motion a second, but just to clarify, we did have a number of potential applicants
[2:03:13] at the end of our meeting.
[2:03:14] I understand, I'm just on duty this evening and I, you know, and I, we know a valuable
[2:03:17] question about, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, pays, pays to, quick, could,
[2:03:21] people benefit from two weeks.
[2:03:23] So, spending, and I'm not hearing any support from the council or that, I'm, doesn't want
[2:03:26] from the public saying that, so I'm assuming what I think we're saying is if we get to that
[2:03:30] point and we're finding that, you know, it takes another week or two, we might, we'd have
[2:03:36] to talk about that.
[2:03:38] I mean, this is a timeline that we're going to try and keep.
[2:03:43] Well, we don't have to, I mean, these guys have to do all the work.
[2:03:45] So, okay.
[2:03:47] This is going to be a discussion because I do want to reiterate that we did have some fairly robust conversation at the MLR meeting on Monday with some of the event producers in town who were looking to, you know, clarify in fact some of the edits that were made came from their input.
[2:04:03] So we also know that the Mammoth Lakes event coalition met prior to our meeting and where they received the initial document that we had reviewed at our November, our December 1st meeting.
[2:04:21] So there was some opportunity for those event folks to provide some feedback, which they did relative to this timeline.
[2:04:28] And so a lot of people are already on board with these reasons.
[2:04:32] They know about it.
[2:04:34] Okay.
[2:04:35] We have a motion in a second.
[2:04:36] This motion being to approve the funding cycle.
[2:04:39] Float art.
[2:04:41] We'll call vote.
[2:04:42] Please, Jamie.
[2:04:46] Oh, thank you.
[2:04:47] Thank you.
[2:04:48] Thank you.
[2:04:49] We did so much on Monday.
[2:04:51] Then I'm still there.
[2:04:52] I'm sorry.
[2:04:52] Thank you, Jamie.
[2:04:53] So, while that motion is on the.
[2:04:56] Dias.
[2:04:57] Is there any public input on the funding cycle?
[2:05:00] the timeline portion.
[2:05:05] Thank you for that remind me Jamie. So then with with none added
[2:05:10] for a couple of this Jamie. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion pass is 5-0.
[2:05:24] If I could or perhaps make a motion that she is going to have it? No. You want to do it?
[2:05:29] Yeah, just to get started. But to make a motion to approve the scope and instructions as presented
[2:05:35] with the following amendments and I look forward to hearing some, I will get all this right
[2:05:39] you guys may have some ideas about this.
[2:05:42] We have to include an understanding that applicants for the $300,000 specifically appropriate
[2:05:49] in the benefits of the external system are included in this process, but the NOTS committee
[2:05:58] of MLR, so track those applications in words, 10 of the tracking documents is established
[2:06:06] by the MOTSC for purposes of continuity of monitoring the project, that MLR, the town staff,
[2:06:14] so I have discussions about the financial liability for the cost of supervision of the contracts
[2:06:21] There's an understanding where that financial library is going to fall and that's what I've got.
[2:06:31] I think we need to be clearly that MLTS applications are eligible for the Center in Funding
[2:06:40] Psycho but not constricted by it because they don't have the same deadlines here.
[2:06:46] So they are eligible to jump in at this time but also they don't have the same end date.
[2:06:52] If that's fine, I might prime our consumers to make sure everybody is aware that if you
[2:06:57] have, you want to go for those dollars, it comes into this process, but also that MLR maintains
[2:07:02] that their committee maintains the integrity of all the very complex tracking programs
[2:07:07] are in place for those funds, so we don't start doing one of the projects.
[2:07:10] John, I'm going to disagree with you, what we've been doing in the reconciliation is simplifying
[2:07:15] that got awful spreadsheet, we've already simplified it to the point that attracting it at
[2:07:24] the
[2:07:24] painful DTR level, but everything, we do have plans of how to track it and not continue
[2:07:30] on with that.
[2:07:33] I think that should be, I don't want to put anything on the MLTS committee because there has
[2:07:39] been no discussion on that tonight.
[2:07:41] I would say state of these instructions, I don't, I think, cause I do have things, you know,
[2:07:45] let people know that they're interested in MLTS,
[2:07:47] they're included, but not constricted.
[2:07:49] Well, I understand, but I want to make sure
[2:07:51] that it's clear that I have a positive,
[2:07:52] very specific concern about losing pieces of that program
[2:08:00] in the sense that they, it's been clumsy and it's difficult.
[2:08:04] But there's a tracking mechanism in place.
[2:08:06] All the allocations of funds that were done by the MLTS
[2:08:08] ECR are interrelated.
[2:08:10] They talk to each other, they're tied together.
[2:08:12] And in order to have the opportunity to manage this program effectively going forward, we don't want to inadvertently compromise with some place right now.
[2:08:21] And I agree with you with that and we will carry that back to the NOTS committee, but I don't think it's appropriate for this tonight's discussion.
[2:08:28] Because it does not relate to what's the funding cycle.
[2:08:32] Well, maybe we're talking about how the recommendations will come back to us from MMR.
[2:08:38] And I would hope that the recommendations coming back from MMR will tear to you and
[2:08:42] tie to that program.
[2:08:45] And I would be pretty concerned if those recommendations come back to us, and they're
[2:08:49] not tied into an identified way, how those things fit into all the priorities and the work
[2:08:56] it was previously because it could.
[2:08:59] I understood, John, but that is a separate track as a contract deliverable that's been
[2:09:05] assigned to the NLTS committee.
[2:09:07] The NLTS committee will be working on in order to include all those things in the budget,
[2:09:13] so that the carrier of the numbers and all that, yeah.
[2:09:16] So, I give that committee time to pull that stuff together.
[2:09:20] I just want to say I want to understand, I'm all concerned about the board with the business
[2:09:24] thing trying to keep me integrity of that kind of track.
[2:09:26] I am not saying that we are not trying to have the integrity and saying it's not appropriate for tonight's discussion, because MLTS has not even brought you recommendations about the MLTS 300,000 yet.
[2:09:38] You will see those over the next few months as related to those contracts requirements.
[2:09:43] So perhaps there's not a motion.
[2:09:48] There's a motion.
[2:09:49] We're trying to get what we're trying to do.
[2:09:51] There's a motion.
[2:09:53] There's a motion.
[2:09:53] We're in discussion, but if you have some information.
[2:09:56] Well, in conference with Tom Johnson, who serves on the allocations body and put this together.
[2:10:05] Perhaps that we could do to make it even just a little clearer is that we don't include MLTS,
[2:10:12] T.S. projects in this funding cycle that rather than saying that we can say in our
[2:10:18] eligible, but they're not going to be included as part of this interim funding cycle
[2:10:24] because of what you've just described, Mayor Raken, is that we're going through this parallel
[2:10:28] process of identifying projects in the MLTS work plan over there that will come back in
[2:10:35] to be allocated to that $300,000. So perhaps to simplify it, we should just acknowledge that
[2:10:42] MLTS projects will not come through this interim funding cycle.
[2:10:47] If, yes, somebody brings in an application and it's a trails related project and it's determined it should go through MLTS,
[2:10:54] we'll just take it and park it until we come back with MLTS recommendations.
[2:11:00] So it doesn't matter how simple fire does that help?
[2:11:02] I'd actually personally suggest against that.
[2:11:04] I don't think we want to pigeonhole ourselves to say that that particular project couldn't be eligible.
[2:11:09] but we honestly have to fund it.
[2:11:12] There could be a suggestion to move it to a later funding
[2:11:14] through the NLTS track.
[2:11:16] But I think in the intent of kind of having a broad scope
[2:11:19] of projects here, I would probably suggest
[2:11:23] against that unless the council feels otherwise.
[2:11:26] Well, I think that's what we're saying here is that it may not be
[2:11:28] funded through this interim financial cycle.
[2:11:30] But if it's a trail's project, it goes over here to the $300,000.
[2:11:35] We're not saying it's not going to get funded.
[2:11:38] we're saying that it may not get funded through this cycle instead the appropriate funding
[2:11:43] for it is over in the 300,000.
[2:11:46] I just don't want to hamstring MLR to the degree that I think when this process comes through
[2:11:52] and people put the applications in, you should be able to have a broad scope as far as what
[2:11:57] you're prioritizing where you want the funding to be.
[2:12:00] That's just my personal opinion that if somebody comes through with a trails project that you
[2:12:04] I think warrants in our own funding, and that rises to the top for whatever reason.
[2:12:10] I don't think we want to preclude ourselves from being able to have that at least be eligible for this cycle.
[2:12:20] I really think that I'm not saying that we don't.
[2:12:23] I think what we're saying.
[2:12:25] I think kind of saying the same thing.
[2:12:26] I think we are.
[2:12:27] You know, we're going to encourage MLTS related projects to come through at another time after those MLTS projects are identified.
[2:12:36] Sure. If somebody misses that or they feel that we've got to have one come through this
[2:12:42] interim funding cycle that they can come through. And I think it will be the discretion
[2:12:47] of the MLR board to review it and see does it should it be funded based on what the application
[2:12:52] or the quest form says or should it be directed over to the MLTS funding cycle?
[2:12:57] I think the way is now you have that flexibility. I would suggest against putting language in there
[2:13:03] that would say that somebody couldn't put forth an application with trails funding currently.
[2:13:09] And I appreciate the discussion.
[2:13:11] I think that folks have been involved in the UNOTSC process.
[2:13:14] No, that's for the summer of 2015.
[2:13:18] There were presentations made on a variety of different things.
[2:13:21] The projects within the 300,000.
[2:13:23] There were not four more MR, measure our applications.
[2:13:27] But it was a dialogue and a conversation with the MLTCC committee to say,
[2:13:31] Websites, some of the stewardship like space and stewards programs are specific within that, and I think the question is just to make sure that that
[2:13:39] That how is how the process happened in the past and that to get things done next summer those folks are going to want to know
[2:13:44] Okay, where do I show up and where do I do it?
[2:13:47] I think we're saying is that they should be submitting an application as part of this process
[2:13:51] I think that's what I'm hearing
[2:13:52] There will be separate, there will be a parallel discussion and a way to get information
[2:14:02] in through MLTS, which will come as part of the budget for Council of Proofable, saying
[2:14:09] MLR is recommending these.
[2:14:12] Yeah, I think to your original concern about time constraints, I think we do want to hold
[2:14:19] some interim funding projects to a shorter time constraint, but it gives these MLTS type projects
[2:14:25] a little bit more flexibility.
[2:14:27] If they want to submit something to MLR through the MLTS track in March or April, they
[2:14:34] could do so.
[2:14:35] Well, I'm going to leave that to the discretion, I guess, of MLR and the board knowing that
[2:14:39] these are things that need to be anticipated, that you need, didn't really have effective
[2:14:43] programs, say for summer, which is a busy season, you need to do these things well in advance.
[2:14:47] There was issues of the last couple years with these kinds of projects where it was very difficult
[2:14:53] to get contracting commitments and to be able to really leverage opportunities for these projects because
[2:15:00] I didn't tell the middle of June and that kind of stuff. So I want to just bring this all your attention, I don't care about that.
[2:15:05] Right, so I think it's, and a separate track with a much simpler way of registering it.
[2:15:11] Right. Yeah.
[2:15:12] And so we do anticipate that M.A.L.A. will as a separate track, would advertise that this M.A.T.S. things.
[2:15:17] I think that it has not been discussed yet.
[2:15:20] I'm sure. Okay, committee will.
[2:15:21] Yeah. The committee will get forward recommendations and something.
[2:15:26] So then I guess with the motion I had, I would withdraw the element about MLTS and the only component to my motion is to approve the scope and instruction as presented with one amendment being for MLR and the town to have discussions about identifying the financial liability for administering the contracts that the town will hold.
[2:15:47] I'd add that to that, the edits, right, yes, thank you.
[2:15:52] Yeah, I just, my only concern, I don't remember, it sounds like you guys have a good handle
[2:15:57] for kind of the aforementioned changes, but I just want to make sure that we're including all that.
[2:16:02] Maybe I should clarify being on the reconciliation ad hoc and all of that kind of things is that
[2:16:08] There has been both out of regular measure R and U or out of MLTS money, the town has asked for funding for project management, etc.
[2:16:21] So we expect to see those still happen.
[2:16:27] So that's the motion.
[2:16:29] I have the motion.
[2:16:30] No second.
[2:16:31] No second.
[2:16:34] But I think Terry had something to add to the question.
[2:16:36] Yes, exactly what you're adding to this, because I just don't see that as being part of this scope.
[2:16:42] That's part of something through reconciliation that we've talked about.
[2:16:46] That every project becomes forward, number one, has to have if there's a talent component,
[2:16:51] then that amount needs to be added to the project itself.
[2:16:55] And then, as we're doing that insulation, there's money since being identified,
[2:16:59] whether it's maintenance or whether it's administration,
[2:17:02] if those money's being identified.
[2:17:03] So I'm not sure that the exact language needs to be put into the scope.
[2:17:09] Well I'm just concerned about options.
[2:17:12] I'm concerned that's not clear to me who's paid with tonight.
[2:17:16] It's just an important number to it.
[2:17:17] We'll end up doing it.
[2:17:18] We'll have a staff discussion.
[2:17:19] If we need to, we'll actually for an application.
[2:17:21] For example, it says for each funding award that goes forward.
[2:17:25] That we're managing.
[2:17:26] There might be like a $500 cost to for the counting and staff time to meet with the applicant.
[2:17:33] process the applications, track the payments, send the invoices.
[2:17:37] Well, what about writing contracts, and yet, and all that kind of stuff?
[2:17:40] Yeah, so we wouldn't talk about what that can do.
[2:17:41] That's understood, and we're hearing what you're saying, but that is that something that
[2:17:45] you actually put in the scope and instructions that goes out to the individual potential
[2:17:49] people who will be filing a funding request for.
[2:17:51] That's fine.
[2:17:52] I'm just asking for qualification.
[2:17:53] I think we're all interested in moving forward.
[2:17:55] The reconciliation efforts to tell you, Joe, that you guys have been involved in, involved
[2:18:00] and rather all kinds of things that may have seemed very important at the time, but I think
[2:18:04] going forward, if we can be very clear about this, and what the rules and the responsibilities
[2:18:08] are of them are versus the town staff, it's really from a financial perspective, I think
[2:18:13] we want to be clear about that.
[2:18:14] So if we need to withdraw a bad part of motion, I'll draw that as well, and we can just,
[2:18:18] so the most of this point is, to approve scope and instructions with the amendments as discussed,
[2:18:25] Now we're drawing this to manage from the motion.
[2:18:29] Accept your withdrawal and but I'll second.
[2:18:31] Okay. Thank you.
[2:18:34] Any public comment?
[2:18:37] Okay.
[2:18:38] Then what we have is a motion to accept the scope and instructions with the edits discussed.
[2:18:46] I'm roll call vote please Jamie.
[2:18:48] Yes.
[2:18:50] Yes.
[2:18:52] Yes.
[2:18:53] Yes.
[2:18:53] Yes, motion passes 5-0.
[2:18:57] Then we have the final piece, the funding request farm, we have a couple of edits.
[2:19:05] I'll make a motion to accept the funding request form with the proposed edits.
[2:19:10] Second, edits and additions, correct?
[2:19:13] Well, to me, an addition is an edit.
[2:19:15] Okay.
[2:19:16] It's a discussion because I have one.
[2:19:18] I only do it at one addition, and that was the model.
[2:19:20] And Ashley, oh, I'm sorry because mobility plans still needs to be draft mobility plan. Okay, I bond number eight. Sorry. I didn't I sorry. I thought I said it. I wrote it down. I may not have said that. Sorry.
[2:19:33] So how market demand and mobility plan?
[2:19:38] Okay. Okay.
[2:19:38] Second. Okay. Thank you. Any public comment? Okay. Roll call vote please Jamie.
[2:19:45] Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[2:19:50] Yes, motion pass is 5-0.
[2:19:54] That is the song, sorry, Dan.
[2:19:56] It is just a need to drink water.
[2:19:59] That means the song to a such which is a progress report on the Sharpeba deliverable.
[2:20:06] That is another part of the contract.
[2:20:08] Before you have on, I do want to acknowledge the work of the Allications Committee.
[2:20:12] Terry Staley, Tom Johnson, Dray Perry.
[2:20:16] been diligent and in coming forward with these ideas as well as the overall, and Rich
[2:20:20] Baccia, sorry. Those guys have put a lot of time and effort into this, and I want
[2:20:25] to acknowledge their work, going into this editing, wordsmithing, and keeping this on a fast
[2:20:32] trap so that we can't get it out the door quickly. So I just want to acknowledge that
[2:20:35] in the work of the board as a whole who continues to work through all of this. So I just
[2:20:41] one thing, thank them for that.
[2:20:44] So this is the MLR review of the Sharp Neapod deliverable.
[2:20:49] Again, this was a document that you received late in the process for your meeting, because
[2:20:54] we had a chance to review it at our meeting on Monday and get approval from the board to bring
[2:21:02] this board for your consideration and I guess approval on this, well, or direction, or direction.
[2:21:10] Thank you, that's the word I'm looking for.
[2:21:13] So again, in our contract with the town,
[2:21:17] calls for the MLR to confirm the list of initial trails
[2:21:22] to be incorporated in the SharkNepa review by December 31st
[2:21:26] of this year, and to recommend a level of funding
[2:21:29] to be committed for future shark area trail maintenance.
[2:21:33] So there were two things in there to recommend
[2:21:35] and to confirm the list of initial trails
[2:21:37] and also to recommend a level of funding for maintenance of future-sharp area and trail maintenance.
[2:21:44] This was assigned to the MLTS Committee of the MLL Award.
[2:21:49] We received a memo from our town manager on December 1st, giving us some direction on this.
[2:21:56] And so as the MLTS Committee met to review it, some questions came up about the deliverable
[2:22:07] and the exercise that we were given, and we don't think that we're able to provide you with
[2:22:13] these recommendations tonight to meet the December 31st deadline because of these outstanding
[2:22:18] questions that really need to be resolved. You have a two-page memo that was provided to you
[2:22:24] that list some of the concerns and questions that we have. Very specifically, I would like to
[2:22:30] just dry your attention to two of the comments because they are directly related to the deliverable
[2:22:36] that we were supposed to provide.
[2:22:38] And if I'll remind you again,
[2:22:40] the first deliverable was confirmation on the listing
[2:22:42] of initial trails to be focused in the need for work
[2:22:44] for trails that may be realistically planned
[2:22:46] for construction in the next five years.
[2:22:49] Basically, coming up with those listed trails.
[2:22:52] On your memo that was written to you
[2:22:55] or our progress report, number one is to,
[2:23:01] we are asking and recommending to reconvene
[2:23:04] showings working group for one meeting in order to provide the community and those who participated
[2:23:10] in the show and working group with an opportunity to provide us with some input on finalizing
[2:23:15] this list of trails.
[2:23:17] And the reason that we're asking for this is that there's a little discrepancy that is a
[2:23:20] slight discrepancy between the list of priorities that have come forward from the four service
[2:23:25] for this sharp leap of work and the original list of priorities that were developed by the
[2:23:30] working group. And our suggestion is to convene a public meeting to allow those who participated
[2:23:37] to come in and let's just affirm those trails. We might find that they're going to be the same,
[2:23:44] we might find that we're able to reconcile or want to reconcile the four service list and
[2:23:50] they show a working group list so that we end up with an agreed upon one list to work from.
[2:23:55] And so that's intended to meet the requirements of deliverable number one of confirming what those trails should be.
[2:24:04] And we want to get, try to get away from the discrepancy that exists right now.
[2:24:09] The second deliverable is to provide a recommend of level of funding to be set aside for the maintenance of new facilities, i.e. new trails.
[2:24:17] I'm going to direct you to item number five under our progress report that says that MLR is requesting to work with town staff on finalizing trail maintenance funding.
[2:24:30] So, the definitions so that we can provide you with a recommended level of funding as requesting the contract deliverable.
[2:24:37] There is some, again, confusion, discrepancy, lots of unknown as to what does maintenance mean and to what degree are we talking about maintenance because I want us to be aware of it.
[2:24:52] We're now starting to move into a potential soft surface trail maintenance that's very different than maintenance that we've been accustomed to.
[2:25:01] And so we want to have an opportunity to get with Town staff to work on defining what maintenance is.
[2:25:08] We know that Town staff is working closely with the Indian National Forest to help get their definitions in here as well.
[2:25:14] And we believe that collectively we can come up with that definition that helps inform us then with how much money we need to start talking about setting aside four maintenance of these trails out in the sharp project area.
[2:25:28] And so we want to come back with that quick deliverable for you, but that's what we're requesting tonight and advising tonight that we will get that definition and we want to get that definition so we can really do some good analysis for how much funding is actually needed.
[2:25:45] The rest of the document, the rest of the progress report really is intended to provide you with kind of a higher level overview of some of the questions and concerns and potential clarifications that the MLTS committee is continuing to work through as it relates to the sharp NEPA, but also kind of trails at a higher level.
[2:26:08] And I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have about any of the other issues or any of the other points that we make in here.
[2:26:16] But I did just want to focus you on number one and number five of our progress report because it lines up with number one and number two of the deliverables that we had for our contract.
[2:26:26] A data did you want to speak to number seven as well?
[2:26:30] I will certainly be happy to speak to number seven in our MLTS committee.
[2:26:43] MLR is intended to be a high-level visionary type organization in our board, high-level visionary thinkers.
[2:26:53] I think what we want to really move into very quickly is retaining capacity for experts and expertise
[2:27:00] to come in and do on the ground in the weeds type work.
[2:27:05] And number seven speaks to that, is that we want to get access to a trail coordinator sooner
[2:27:13] rather than later.
[2:27:15] And that trail coordinator is the person who would be responsible for doing a lot of this work
[2:27:19] that we're talking about right here.
[2:27:20] And in the MLTSCC award previously, there was funding set aside for admin work and want to come back to you with is a request to redirect that admin work that was going to MLTSCC and put that over towards the retention of a trail's coordinator.
[2:27:39] Now, whether that might be in partnership with the town, that's partnership with outside resources,
[2:27:46] we still wanted to determine that, but we want to present that concept to each night, because
[2:27:51] we really do want to get this trail coordinator on the ground in place doing this level of work
[2:27:59] and keeping all the balls going that need to be balanced in this trail's effort.
[2:28:06] Is that a dollar for dollar?
[2:28:11] That would, if I may on the M.O.C. has me, you had about 20,000 allocated for that type of stuff.
[2:28:16] So we're looking at, out of the leverage, those funds and additional funds.
[2:28:19] We've had discussions, whether that is a additional MLR,
[2:28:23] fully funded staff position out of dollars out of the 300,000 or other money.
[2:28:27] Is that a partnership with like MLTPA in terms of a joint?
[2:28:30] They've raised money for kind of a trail activity.
[2:28:32] Do we joint that together?
[2:28:34] It is a very potential partnership with the town.
[2:28:35] I think we need to work through that.
[2:28:37] I think the goal of having somebody on the ground focused on getting this stuff done is important.
[2:28:42] I think it needs to be focused in a single body of possible.
[2:28:45] I mean, in terms of a person, so you're not chasing cats, if you will, in terms of some of the workload.
[2:28:51] So that'll be important to centralize that effort.
[2:28:54] I want to be ready tonight to say, yes, allocate extra dollars.
[2:28:57] I think the project that they're saying to move forward on makes sense.
[2:29:01] And, ultimately, how we coordinate that to make it work will be a key issue.
[2:29:03] And actually, this is an intention just to inform you and come back with some specific recommendations on the set, but again, hitting deadlines and meeting dates and all of that.
[2:29:15] But just to pose the idea.
[2:29:17] So yeah, we wanted to provide the concept with you and I think Dan points out there.
[2:29:22] We have several opportunities and options to look at in how we might get this person on the ground.
[2:29:27] point out that MLR intends to be very lean in what it's definitely is and to build capacity
[2:29:34] in the community for doing this talk of work is something that the MLR board is going
[2:29:40] to be continuing to look at. I will also remind you that we're in the process of recruiting
[2:29:45] and hiring our executive director. So we want to our priorities that first for us, but
[2:29:53] realizing we have options out there to find some capacity outside of ourselves perhaps to help get this
[2:29:58] trails for you.
[2:30:00] This is for the three top points out of our progress report.
[2:30:05] Tonight we are looking to get your feedback and support.
[2:30:10] Because we do intend to come back to you along January 7th at your meeting with final recommendations
[2:30:16] and direction that we want to get from approval that we want to get from you.
[2:30:22] So, thank you. I'm thinking not a mirror perhaps.
[2:30:27] It might be easiest if we just went through these one item in a time,
[2:30:32] and just if there's a discussion point or not,
[2:30:34] I think we have a good sense of kind of we're right.
[2:30:37] I don't think there'll be a lot of it, but I think it'd be easier to kind of go through one little piece of the time.
[2:30:41] Well, this really wasn't.
[2:30:45] This was more of a progress report and not necessarily.
[2:30:48] Are you thinking that we'd say, yes, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, something like that, yes.
[2:30:54] I don't think there's enough detail here for that, it's essentially telling you where we are.
[2:31:00] We want to start working with staff and we bring back specific items on January 7.
[2:31:08] Because some of these things are behind the scenes that I don't know that they need to be discussed.
[2:31:14] That's, again, just like in a large, doesn't really want to be down into this inch of this trail.
[2:31:20] I don't know what council feels about if this point is going through.
[2:31:23] No, I understand John where you're coming from, but I think this is a progress report.
[2:31:27] I think we're going to get more information.
[2:31:28] Well, if it's a progress report, I don't know if we should take any action on it.
[2:31:31] I mean, it's an informational item.
[2:31:33] We just take as informational.
[2:31:34] Because there are things that are very important that I would leave.
[2:31:37] I don't think we can have that discussion early on this.
[2:31:40] Right.
[2:31:40] And if I think that the key on on this is we had put into the contract the deliverable for
[2:31:45] December to have some trail structure put in place so we continue to need but if we don't need
[2:31:51] foreign latch on there's consensus to say okay let that slide because we do need to confirm
[2:31:57] the actual you have a need for process that looks at the cumulative impact and you have a big
[2:32:02] picture level but they need to know it down if you can say we're going to put more detail into
[2:32:05] these five, four, three, six, seven trails.
[2:32:09] We need to confirm those up, but we can work with the process,
[2:32:11] is outlined here, bringing some folks back in and working through that.
[2:32:15] If we get that done by the seven, that'd be great.
[2:32:17] In terms of that meeting process, that's notification of people,
[2:32:20] most pieces.
[2:32:21] I think the main thing there, we're sliding that schedule out
[2:32:24] into January in order to truly accomplish what is probably
[2:32:28] a good recommendation in terms of that confirmation
[2:32:31] of the work program that'll inform that need
[2:32:33] decision. So, we're not finalizing stretch of the means, but not holding MLRs, hey, you
[2:32:40] Mr. Deadline.
[2:32:42] So, is there a date? Is there a date that MLRs? I mean, do you want to say anything?
[2:32:47] Well, our intent is to come back to you on January 7th with some work products and
[2:32:55] actually requested action on these, in fact, it was pointed out in the barrister to say this.
[2:33:02] It was pointed out at our meeting in the other day that we're missing our deadline.
[2:33:08] And so we came to you with this progress report of why we're missing the deadline,
[2:33:13] because there are several other factors that are going into what the two deliverables are that we need to come back to you with on January 7th.
[2:33:21] So we intend to come back to you with those two deliverables on January 7th, and there may
[2:33:26] be through the work that we're going to do on that.
[2:33:30] There may be some other action items coming out of this progress report that we would formalize
[2:33:35] with you and ask for some approval on January 7th also.
[2:33:40] I see it speaks to what they might be, but I'm certain that we'll probably find some that
[2:33:45] we want to get your action on.
[2:33:46] So the two items coming back by January 7th would be which to?
[2:33:50] confirmation of the number one number one number one read number five to
[2:33:58] measure a working group and number five to work with town staff to
[2:34:05] finalize the trail means spending. Okay so I think if we if we could make some sort of a
[2:34:09] direction this basically sort of accepts this looking forward to January 7th and I
[2:34:14] think if that satisfies everybody needs I think that's fine I would only add a
[2:34:18] that the need for the definition of maintenance is critical.
[2:34:23] And that's something I'm sure folks will look at.
[2:34:26] I think the, I'm very encouraged to hear the way the show is working
[2:34:31] group is being reconvened. Collaborers have enormous value to this community.
[2:34:34] And that's great. And I think I appreciate your kindness and the
[2:34:38] chosen coordinator. I think that would save us a lot of, you know,
[2:34:41] we wouldn't get a 15 item thing. We get some more advice and I think
[2:34:46] be a normal assistant and I'm all as well.
[2:34:50] Thank you.
[2:34:51] General consensus too.
[2:34:53] Yeah.
[2:34:54] All right.
[2:34:56] Okay.
[2:34:59] Um, soldier on or to you, great.
[2:35:02] And, uh, gentlemen, maybe before you, I'm not sure if there's any other public context,
[2:35:05] that I want to say.
[2:35:06] I want to say, gave us consensus direction versus act.
[2:35:08] Yeah, that's just a constant.
[2:35:09] There wasn't any act.
[2:35:10] But you can't get it.
[2:35:11] You can't get it.
[2:35:12] Come in on Monday.
[2:35:14] Okay.
[2:35:14] I think Sandra must have told her.
[2:35:16] Sandra must have told her.
[2:35:18] I don't know.
[2:35:19] We're soldiers.
[2:35:20] Yes.
[2:35:22] I don't know.
[2:35:22] Where are you going?
[2:35:23] OK.
[2:35:24] So then we come to your policy matter number 10.
[2:35:27] Approving the project description for the general plan.
[2:35:30] Land use elements, et cetera.
[2:35:32] Thank you.
[2:35:34] So as you stated, the item before you is the project description for the EIR.
[2:35:38] that will analyze the way changing the way we calculate density in the commercial zones from
[2:35:45] a rooms and units per acre calculation to a floor area ratio calculation.
[2:35:51] This follows in the heels of the zoning code update and it'll implement our white box concept,
[2:35:55] which basically just says that the town will regulate projects through development centers
[2:36:00] like height, setbacks, parking, snow surge, et cetera, but not regulate what's inside the box.
[2:36:07] Additionally, the EIR will analyze our 2011 Draft Mobility Element of the General Plan to allow that element to be adopted as part of this process.
[2:36:16] The mobility element that's analyzed as part of this process will include incorporation of the Main Street Project,
[2:36:23] as well as any updates to projects that have been completed since the Draft Mobility Element was prepared, like the Waterford Bridge.
[2:36:31] Staff typically doesn't bring project descriptions for EIRs to the planning and economic development
[2:36:37] commission in council, but because of the interest in this project, we wanted to bring it
[2:36:42] before both bodies for comments. The commission reviewed the project description if they're meeting
[2:36:46] last week on December 10th. They had minor comments on the document. They wanted to clarify that new
[2:36:53] single family homes are not permitted in the commercial zones, and they also wanted to add language
[2:36:58] clarifying that the maximum FAR may not be achieved due to design requirements in development
[2:37:05] standards, including parking and snow storage.
[2:37:09] Please note that the EIR is proposing to analyze a maximum FAR of 2.0 rather than the 2.5
[2:37:17] FAR that was discussed as a part of our zoning code update.
[2:37:21] We worked with our consultant to review the assumptions and the kind of numbers that came
[2:37:26] out of a 2.5 FAR and then we compare the results to our general plan EIR and we also ran
[2:37:33] those by our traffic consultant and it was determined that the FAR of 2.5 resulted in higher
[2:37:39] than anticipated buildout numbers. So we did work with the Chair and Vice Chair of the Planning
[2:37:43] Commission, Planning and Economic Development Commission and we did look at some of the projects
[2:37:48] that were analyzed as part of the Main Street Plan and at that this point we're recommending
[2:37:52] analyzing a 2.0 FAR and in particular the 2.5 FAR resulted in an amount of commercial development
[2:38:01] that was really not considered viable for the town I've built out.
[2:38:05] With that we're recommending that the Council Review the Project description provide comments
[2:38:08] as necessary and approve the project description so we can start work on the EIR that concludes
[2:38:15] my presentation and myself and Ruth are here to answer any questions you have on this item.
[2:38:20] I have any questions that's down.
[2:38:25] Yes.
[2:38:25] Okay.
[2:38:26] Sandra, why did the 2.5, what was the reason you said it was not to sustain what blows the problem?
[2:38:36] The number when we looked at the numbers for lodging, residential units, and commercial score footage,
[2:38:42] it was just beyond anything we'd ever anticipated as part of our buildout scenario.
[2:38:47] So it just wasn't, it wasn't seem viable and it just didn't seem like it was a mobility issues, was it?
[2:38:53] We didn't analyze that at this point, I mean that's what we'll do as part of the EIR, but really just kind of a first look at it
[2:38:59] and that's why we ran it by the chair and the vice chair of the Planning and Economic Development Commission
[2:39:02] and we did kind of look back at the Main Street Plan and some of the projects that were analyzed as a part of that
[2:39:09] and that's how we ended up, you know, reducing it from 2.5 to 2.0
[2:39:14] And do you anticipate in the EIR that they'll look at different numbers of 1.75?
[2:39:26] I think I got 2.25.
[2:39:28] Yeah.
[2:39:29] I don't think we've been able to anything above 2.0 because I would be the maximum.
[2:39:33] But we would look at EIR's usually look at a no project alternative, the proposed project,
[2:39:38] and then a reduced alternative.
[2:39:40] So we could we would look at something lower than a 2.0, you know, could be a 1.5 or something like that.
[2:39:46] So we'll vet that through the EIR process.
[2:39:49] Okay, because you know, you'd look at the, look at the tables and it kind of gives you a little bit of a setback like, wow.
[2:40:00] But.
[2:40:00] Right.
[2:40:02] You know, that's, I assume through the EIR that we'll, we've added.
[2:40:07] Yeah, yeah, that's really a part of this process is to look at this number where we're going to
[2:40:11] We're going to do a traffic screening
[2:40:13] So we're going to do kind of a preliminary traffic review on this these numbers before we kick off all the other work
[2:40:18] To really see once we run the traffic model. What does this mean?
[2:40:22] So that's kind of the first step and that will really give us a lot of information and
[2:40:27] some certainty moving forward to the IR process. Yeah, I realize there's a development and
[2:40:32] Voloke in there that, you know, they're trying to work within so yeah
[2:40:37] Colin, would you have questions?
[2:40:39] Yeah, a couple of questions.
[2:40:42] Obviously at this time, you're proposing a maximum of 2.0.
[2:40:47] At any point are we proposing a minimum?
[2:40:50] The planning and economic development commission did ask staff to look into a minimum.
[2:40:56] So we are going to be looking into that.
[2:40:58] And we probably are going to bring that back to commission in February.
[2:41:02] It doesn't really affect the EIR, because the EIR analyzes the maximum, so it wouldn't
[2:41:09] really affect the analysis as part of this, so we will bring that to commission, and if
[2:41:13] the commission has recommendations to do that, we would bring that forward to council
[2:41:16] for direction.
[2:41:18] And that would just apply to commercial zones, so we're talking an old name, a third,
[2:41:22] mixed-losing, lodging raise, the dental and the industry curve.
[2:41:26] Yeah.
[2:41:26] What's on the map?
[2:41:28] Right.
[2:41:30] You had alluded to the fact that no building of single family homes in the commercial zones
[2:41:37] are any existing currently?
[2:41:40] There are existing single family homes that are legal, non-conforming and can remain,
[2:41:45] but new single family homes are not permitted in the commercial zones.
[2:41:48] Okay, I guess I'm having a hard time wrap my head around where those are.
[2:41:52] They're up kind of on there's one some on mountain Boulevard like up there all they're not right on the main street
[2:41:58] They're all kind of off the main off main street. So one off main street on the mountain Boulevard around there. There's some over there
[2:42:05] Okay, okay
[2:42:06] Okay
[2:42:10] Could you just kind of for the benefit of the public because that I've heard some confusion on this?
[2:42:14] Can you kind of talk about
[2:42:16] You know what we're dealing with right now is just looking at commercial zones
[2:42:20] Can you talk about kind of the delineation for what this change would affect with the commercial zones?
[2:42:26] And then what the existing like residential zones is going to stay at 12 12 units in acre, right?
[2:42:30] Right, we are not proposing any changes as part of this process to anything other than the commercial zones.
[2:42:37] The EIR will analyze the mobility element, which applies to the entire town.
[2:42:41] But really this density change is only looking at the commercial zones of town, which is basically old mammoth road Main Street.
[2:42:46] It won't affect the North Village specific plan, it won't affect any of other specific plans.
[2:42:50] It won't affect the clear water specific plan, which is actually on Main Street, that it's not a part of this project either.
[2:42:56] So that's the commercial zones.
[2:42:58] And so, you know, if somebody did want to build some sort of mixed use project on Main Street, let's say, for example,
[2:43:05] would be, you know, like ground floor, floor, retail and residential use.
[2:43:10] Those would fall just under the, those are now fallen under the new commercial FAR.
[2:43:15] Right, that's the intent that once this E it once we go through this process, we adopt the changes to the zoning code to the general plan
[2:43:21] That it would just be an FAR and it would be but you know no limit on the number of rooms or units
[2:43:27] Or any commercial zones, so really we would regulate it by the height setback step-backs
[2:43:32] Then the last question I have you know a lot of this discussions around build out and being concerned with the 2.5 FAR
[2:43:39] What that would look at you know for proposed potential build out
[2:43:42] But what are some of the other stop gaps that we would have because we're really looking
[2:43:49] at what we're concerned about is approaching those P-A-O-T numbers, water usage, those
[2:43:54] type of things.
[2:43:56] If we were to get into a scenario where our buildout was approaching problematic areas with
[2:44:00] water usage or P-A-O-T, those are acceptable stop gaps to say we can't have another project
[2:44:07] come online that goes above those numbers, right?
[2:44:11] I think that the development projects
[2:44:14] can have an iterative process.
[2:44:15] And so as we get different development projects,
[2:44:17] and we're looking at that every single time.
[2:44:20] So for every project as we go through,
[2:44:22] I mean, the buildout is, you know,
[2:44:24] it's a long period of time.
[2:44:25] Sure.
[2:44:26] And so as we go through that, I mean,
[2:44:27] I think that I don't think we're going to get to the point
[2:44:29] where all the sudden we're going to get a development project,
[2:44:31] and we're going to say, you can't fill.
[2:44:33] I think what we're going to say is,
[2:44:35] as development project number one comes in,
[2:44:37] So you need to implement water efficient, landscaping all of these things so that ultimately we can have an efficient build out and still maintain our water limits and RVMT and air quality limits.
[2:44:53] So that's going to be intent. I mean I think that it's really something that we're not just going to kind of put it on a shelf and forget it.
[2:45:00] But it's really, we're going to be checking this every, with every project and looking at it every time to make sure that we're looking ahead and we're never going to get to that spot where the last, you know, there's the last person in the, the door who, who can't, and build their project.
[2:45:13] Okay, thanks.
[2:45:17] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[2:45:20] Yeah, I got some mobility questions. Let's talk about mobility for a second.
[2:45:26] The, in the one sheet of the, the front it adds that the EIR will include an analysis
[2:45:30] of the general plan of draft and build the element prepared in 2011, it's about four years
[2:45:34] back.
[2:45:35] Staff in this space of minor changes, the element will be completed to reflect completed projects
[2:45:40] in change conditions.
[2:45:41] I'm not sure exactly what you've got in mind.
[2:45:43] I'm looking to page 22, but the 22 is in the middle of a page, and it lists a kind of a series
[2:45:50] projects, I'm wondering if you could talk about why in the mobility element we're talking
[2:45:54] about mainstream and reconfigurations, the first thing up, or if that matters, it'd be interesting
[2:45:59] to know how that fits in all of this. I think I'll defer to Grady to respond to the mobility element
[2:46:05] question. Excellent. No, I just, so in the mobility, I see Sandy Sirer was a former chair of the mobility
[2:46:13] commission. Why, I mean, what is the world? Mainstree can reconfiguration? Is there something
[2:46:20] that's important to have adopted in the mobility element that maybe sets something up
[2:46:24] for future funding, or for some kind of a grand opportunity? I'm wanting it at these
[2:46:29] prioritized, if I don't know if they, I just don't know what these things are and how they
[2:46:33] relate to the element, and why it's necessary to maybe have things pointed out for purposes
[2:46:39] down the road.
[2:46:40] One of them is just because of the availability of all the drafts in 2011, and although there has not been a lot of development sets in, there's other things happening in town and everything else.
[2:46:50] You've actually had a preliminary meeting between staff and gone through that.
[2:46:54] I've added some of the exhibits that need to be updated, trails that need to be added, also adding some of the mainstream stuff, just trying to bring it up today.
[2:47:01] I wouldn't say it's prioritized, but while we're doing this action with the FBI, I think we want to carry it in a million a lot, bring that to you.
[2:47:09] get that adopted and have it covered by the,
[2:47:11] I don't know, my understanding, I mean, that did hurt 2011.
[2:47:15] One of the reasons that will be only on the wasn't adopted
[2:47:18] was that there was not the environmental documentation
[2:47:23] that was required to do so.
[2:47:24] Yeah, that was a struggle for the, well,
[2:47:26] for the transplant, the Parks and Recreation Plan.
[2:47:30] So I'm just, I'm hopeful that whatever updating you have to do
[2:47:34] is going to make things current, right?
[2:47:37] And it's all going to kind of work and I'm going to assume that the Main Street reconfiguration
[2:47:42] is not the number one priority of the implementation mobility plan.
[2:47:45] That's correct.
[2:47:46] I don't think it's that prioritized, frankly, it's just better bring it up to date with today
[2:47:51] what we know the projects we know the day and the Main Street plan.
[2:47:55] The list of projects in here were listed, descriptively, not prioritized.
[2:48:03] Those are my thoughts for the moment.
[2:48:04] Thank you.
[2:48:05] Sandra, just for the benefit of our New York Council members, and I will ask you to list all 11 areas,
[2:48:13] but it's fine to be understanding that, you know, we set forth a proposal in the project description,
[2:48:20] and then water, public utilities, air quality, noise, et cetera, are the areas that are evaluated in the environmental impact report, correct?
[2:48:31] right, they evaluate a variety of different environmental effects and basically the kind of
[2:48:38] the first step of the process is to scope the EIR and so they might scope out things like
[2:48:44] you know archeology or those kinds of things. So the first step is to scope your meeting which
[2:48:48] is a public meeting where we take comments on the scope of the EIR and so the intent is to really kind
[2:48:53] of hone the EIR make sure we're focusing on truly the important items and not analyzing
[2:48:59] things that really aren't affected as part of this process.
[2:49:04] And so ideas like the feet first, which is a general plan, you know, it's an idea in
[2:49:09] a general plan, how the mobility element ties into that, these things connect the characteristics
[2:49:16] of the implementation of the mobility element I'm assuming.
[2:49:21] Yeah, because all of that's already been cross referenced by staff and by the work of the mobility
[2:49:26] commission but we wouldn't approve it because we didn't have the funding for the
[2:49:31] list of the funding for this one and it fits in a logical way so that we're
[2:49:36] able to get a two-for-one. Sure, understood.
[2:49:41] Okay, well at average, is there any public input on this side?
[2:49:54] I'm just looking for a timeline as I was going through this, so you can reference the public
[2:50:00] I'm just wondering, I glance at this and didn't see a timeline, so is there, and have we posted
[2:50:06] when public scope and begins, what's our timeline for completing the analysis required
[2:50:12] for the EIR and what's our project schedule?
[2:50:15] Yeah, we haven't posted that yet, the consultant was waiting for information on getting this
[2:50:21] project description approved so that she can then go ahead and draft that.
[2:50:24] But ideally, you know, EIRs, the process can take anywhere from nine months to a year.
[2:50:30] I would imagine that we'll be scoping probably in February.
[2:50:35] But we will post that.
[2:50:37] We do have a web page on our website.
[2:50:38] It has all of this information, so post it to that web page.
[2:50:42] But hopefully next year this time we'll be through this process.
[2:50:48] Any other questions?
[2:50:58] I just kind of wanted to clarify something about the stock gap and I guess I'm a little concerned about that because it kind of sounds like, you know, the first come first serves who have come through door first is the one that's going to get their project and is able to move forward and you were saying that that's prevented through whatever water mitigation or whatever you're doing.
[2:51:24] But I guess unless you're setting at least a minimum for every property owner in that commercial district, I don't see how you ever prevent running out of water or being able to not bring a project forward.
[2:51:41] So I guess that would be considered in mind if I was a property owner of a commercial piece of property and I wasn't the first one to the door and how if I'm going to be able to have a valid piece of property somewhere down the road.
[2:51:55] I mean, that's that process that we're going to go through, like I said, I mean, that every project is evaluated.
[2:52:03] Every project is going to have subsequent environmental analysis, some level of environmental analysis where we would be looking at that.
[2:52:10] We will have to be tracking build out and looking at those kinds of things.
[2:52:14] Our goal is to never get to that spot.
[2:52:17] The general plan has been updated really routinely here,
[2:52:23] But I think it's really something that we need to get into the habit of maybe once every 10 years, or some level of looking, we really need to look at this kind of like,
[2:52:34] because Bill does kind of change. I mean, we looked at this in 2007, the 2007 general plan assumed, I mean, I think we thought that Bill that was going to happen in 10 years.
[2:52:43] So I mean, I think this is really something we need to continue looking at.
[2:52:46] The general plan is a living document and we need to come back and be looking at this and so that's I think that's our goal
[2:52:53] We can't predict the future about you know of a build out when it's gonna happen
[2:52:57] How quickly it's gonna happen, but our goal is to make sure that we're tracking it as it goes so that we never get to the point where the last person
[2:53:04] Right, you got to surmise though that you know something you know
[2:53:08] In the 70s here there was a there's a crazy time there's a lot of building going up and you know
[2:53:15] back can happen again. I hope it does. We just have to be prepared for it. Any other public comment?
[2:53:24] And then we'll bring it back for discussion or a motion.
[2:53:27] Madam Manic motion council approve the project description for the general plan land use.
[2:53:33] Element and zoning code amendments EIR which include the four area ratio changes.
[2:53:38] And the commercial zoning districts and analysis of the 2011 draft mobility element.
[2:53:41] May
[2:53:44] I have a second?
[2:53:45] How's second?
[2:53:47] We have a motion in a second.
[2:53:49] I'm roll call.
[2:53:50] Please, Jimmy.
[2:53:54] Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
[2:53:58] Motion passes by zero.
[2:54:00] That takes us on to discussion.
[2:54:02] The single family transient work program.
[2:54:07] Thank you.
[2:54:10] Doesn't miss a beat.
[2:54:12] The item before you tonight is a draft work program.
[2:54:15] regarding single-family transient rentals.
[2:54:18] The work program includes work items that respond to the issues that were raised at the October
[2:54:22] First Town Council meeting, as well as issues that have been raised in the past regarding
[2:54:26] single-family transient rentals.
[2:54:28] The work program includes a first step of gathering data related to transient rentals within
[2:54:34] the town.
[2:54:35] And that first step has already been started by the Finance Department.
[2:54:38] They have sent out business tax certificate renewals requesting some of this information.
[2:54:43] And we're anticipating that we'll have some of this data gathering exercise,
[2:54:49] completed in February or March of next year.
[2:54:52] Based on comments that we've received since the report and the draft work program
[2:54:56] were published, we suggest adding a task to the first phase of this project
[2:55:01] to explore adding quality of life regulations to existing process for transient rentals.
[2:55:07] This would include standards for noise, trash, snow removal,
[2:55:10] parking local contact information for transient runals and other quality of life issues that
[2:55:17] were raised as part of this research project. As stated in the report, this is a draft work
[2:55:23] program. We welcome any comments or suggestions the council has on the scope of the work
[2:55:29] program or work items that should be added or removed. That concludes my presentation and I'm
[2:55:34] available for questions that you have inside. Before the question started, I was the one that
[2:55:39] the quality of life issues go back in because that was so much of a part of our discussion
[2:55:44] for the last time around and they had been left out.
[2:55:48] And I think we even agreed that that had to be done with it or not.
[2:55:51] We went through the other steps.
[2:55:54] So I'm the one responsible for the red light version.
[2:55:58] It's my fault.
[2:55:59] Thank you.
[2:55:59] Everything's my fault.
[2:56:00] Just wait a minute.
[2:56:01] When you're there.
[2:56:02] Everything's your fault.
[2:56:04] So any questions or staff?
[2:56:08] Just so if by our actions tonight theoretically we would be saying get to work on one I'm going to the red line numbers now one through four and then you bring one through four back to council for discussion review next step that kind of stuff actually one through three because four is go to planning an economic development commission
[2:56:30] Right, but there'll be a recommendation to come quickly and I can also say that the sum of all these parts comes back to us at new number five correct.
[2:56:39] Okay.
[2:56:39] Senator, can I just stop be condensed?
[2:56:43] Or does it all have to be tackled separately or individually?
[2:56:49] I mean, we draft this based on kind of the issues that we heard.
[2:56:54] We do, I do note that there are, we are checking in with council and commission at pretty much every step.
[2:57:01] So, it's the, at the pleasure of the council, if you'd like to have maybe less, you know,
[2:57:06] checking only at the end or checking in with commission and then kind of coming to the council for a final review.
[2:57:13] That is one of the items.
[2:57:14] I did, I kept it in here because I thought it was important for the council to see that and to discuss that,
[2:57:19] but I see that as a place where maybe we could cut some time out.
[2:57:24] Yeah, I mean, I just think that some can be condensed.
[2:57:26] I just think that I'm not saying it eliminated.
[2:57:29] I'm just saying condensed it.
[2:57:30] Well, I would suggest that we just,
[2:57:33] we've got all in front of us at a piece of favor.
[2:57:35] We know that however you work plan gets put together
[2:57:38] and however you do it, that we then and we get to number
[2:57:40] when it comes back to us, we can go back to this document,
[2:57:43] say, okay, well, did you check on us, you check on that?
[2:57:45] So I feel, I feel comfortable with this.
[2:57:47] I think this is pretty good,
[2:57:48] because this is a good way to do it.
[2:57:50] No, no, it's great outline, I think.
[2:57:52] And I think that one, two and three are concurrently being done
[2:57:57] by different groups of staff members.
[2:57:59] So it isn't like one gets done, and then they start on two.
[2:58:02] If I understand a correct one, two and three, I'll concur it.
[2:58:06] Correct, so that's my comment is that it's being condensed,
[2:58:11] so it's worked on together and not.
[2:58:13] You know what I want after the right, right?
[2:58:15] Is it'll go on for another 10 years?
[2:58:18] So it's Sandra, when would you anticipate coming back with next steps?
[2:58:26] I think that data gathering is really kind of the wildcard, some of the data may be difficult
[2:58:33] to gather.
[2:58:35] I think a lot of it will kind of see what comes back with our business tax applications, see how much data we can get there.
[2:58:42] I think that'll be good indication of where we are.
[2:58:46] So, I mean, so we can come back and maybe give the council an update in February and see
[2:58:53] because that's the due date and I think is the end of January for all the business
[2:58:56] tax certificates so maybe we can come back in February and say here's where we are here's
[2:59:00] how much information for me.
[2:59:00] That'd be great idea.
[2:59:01] I think the idea is just to keep this moving.
[2:59:05] Right.
[2:59:05] And as a point, the council at the end of step five could give us a different direction on the
[2:59:11] program.
[2:59:12] Right.
[2:59:12] I mean, that you could change this. This is not.
[2:59:15] Well, I think it's important that we talked about the data component of this. I think it's very important for the community and the council to be able to have.
[2:59:21] We're not having competing narratives out of the community about units and this is a massive investment that we, this is very, very important to me.
[2:59:28] It's going to have all kinds of inscillary benefits down the road.
[2:59:32] So, do it in parallel, do all together, we get it right. I think it's going to be important.
[2:59:38] Any other questions or staff?
[2:59:41] Any comments from the public?
[2:59:47] I was down the street.
[2:59:48] I'm just looking for clarification under the day of collection.
[2:59:52] Number one, bullet point number two references,
[2:59:55] rental statistics of curving knitters.
[2:59:58] I just wanted to.
[3:00:00] And see percentages of current bidders, and then does that also include non-revenue generating rentals that occur
[3:00:09] friends, family, et cetera. So I just curious when you reference rentals statistics, what we're looking
[3:00:15] for in mental statistics. And then I had a second one under item number 2, TOT enforcement program analysis
[3:00:22] and reporting, masks will employ a relative to enforcement of requirements with BRVO, Airbnb,
[3:00:27] et cetera.
[3:00:29] And you're wondering, are we talking to some of the cities that have actively engaged
[3:00:35] with Airbnb and have really set some pretty rigid standards out there and working very closely
[3:00:43] with those BRVO type organizations.
[3:00:45] We have not spoken with any cities, because there are very few that those organizations
[3:00:49] of Dane to talk to that's been Portland and San Francisco New York New York right but they
[3:00:55] I mean I've had multiple conversations both Airbnb and VRBO and the message is you're too
[3:01:01] little to bother with we'll get back to you eventually which is why the League of California
[3:01:04] cities can be in a working group that is having conference calls a week which town staff are
[3:01:11] participating in I participate in when I can and the League is trying to find some statewide
[3:01:16] solution to this problem because everyone recognize the initial issue.
[3:01:20] Okay, so going back to the mental statistics, there is, I just want to clarify, there's
[3:01:26] proprietary information that's going to be gathered and that there's information that
[3:01:30] can't be publicly shared, so this is going to be an aggregate of what we hear.
[3:01:34] I'm just trying to understand what mental statistics mean.
[3:01:37] Yes, it would be the occupancy, it would be aggregated and it would only be for the units
[3:01:41] that are remitting.
[3:01:42] So only the information that we have, we don't track friends or family, if that, if
[3:01:46] person is not remitting that information to us.
[3:01:49] So it's really only what we receive.
[3:01:51] And I did meet with a talk to Daniazo and Susan Cash who runs the Susan is in charge
[3:01:59] of the TOT program and really kind of a key warning is really we're getting, it's only as good
[3:02:04] as the input we're getting.
[3:02:05] So we're getting a lot of this from the remitters and so it's really based on that.
[3:02:11] So I think it's going to be valuable information, but some of it may be information that
[3:02:15] We say, well, we're not going to base our decision on this.
[3:02:18] No, I just think it's going to be important that you advise Council of those realities.
[3:02:22] I mean, if we have to make choices based on what we've got, well, at least we know what we have.
[3:02:27] Right.
[3:02:27] And we can make decisions and inferences based on that, based on what?
[3:02:30] Do a little extrapolation.
[3:02:32] All right.
[3:02:32] Any other public comment?
[3:02:34] All right.
[3:02:35] Then I'll bring it back for discussion.
[3:02:38] So do we need a motion on this, then?
[3:02:39] Yes.
[3:02:59] I think personally I think staff did a nice job with this, I think this is a pretty good summary of what was asked at the last meeting.
[3:03:09] you know, we really do want to get kind of a set of statistics that we're all working from,
[3:03:14] so we're not having those comparing, you know, competing narratives. I think that's important.
[3:03:19] We do need to examine quality of life issues period, because I don't think we've done that appropriate
[3:03:25] to this point, and TOT enforcement is always going to be something that has to run regardless of any program.
[3:03:34] So I think this is entirely consistent with the priority that we established for tackling.
[3:03:38] I mean, this is the kind of thing that we're talking about, and this is the information we need to have as our baseline.
[3:03:45] So we can work, you know, and then find out if you were planning commission, find out what to counsel, decide base 2.
[3:03:52] I think that's the right phase 1, and then that'll shape phase 2.
[3:03:58] I need to face one A.
[3:04:01] So I'd like to make a mention that we approve the work program
[3:04:06] and that go back to that work and dance to stuff.
[3:04:08] Condense the work program is much as possible
[3:04:10] and we'll move through it as quickly as possible
[3:04:11] and come back to council with next steps.
[3:04:20] We have a motion in the second.
[3:04:21] We'll come up please, Jamie.
[3:04:23] Yes.
[3:04:25] Yes.
[3:04:26] Just to be clear, to be clear though,
[3:04:28] We're not indicating that you rush anything, or you do, you do it right, per what's in this document, okay?
[3:04:36] Yes.
[3:04:38] Yes.
[3:04:39] Yes.
[3:04:39] Yes.
[3:04:39] Motion passes by zero.
[3:04:42] And we will adjourn to our first meeting of next year on January 7th, which I just noticed here says,
[3:04:47] thank you.
[3:04:48] Thank you.