[4:35] All right. As we call this meeting to
[4:37] order, I would ask if there is a motion
[4:40] to approve the agenda.
[4:44] Hold on. Am I speeding a little bit?
[4:47] Okay. And the agenda is being modified
[4:51] by adding u what letter would that be?
[4:56] F.
[4:58] >> Are you wanting to add it to the consent
[4:59] agenda or the regular agenda?
[5:04] I'm fine with adding it to the consent
[5:05] agenda. Okay. I just assume it be a
[5:07] regular agenda. I
[5:11] >> It is your agenda. You all can make the
[5:13] choice of whether or not you feel
[5:14] comfortable on the consent or wish to
[5:16] talk about it in the regular.
[5:19] » It's a budget amendment uh grand project
[5:22] or next FEMA and
[5:27] » yeah regular agenda.
[5:31] So item F will be budget amendments
[5:35] grant project works.
[5:39] » So make a motion to approve the agenda
[5:41] with modifications discussed.
[5:45] >> A second.
[5:46] >> All right. All those in favor
[5:48] >> I
[5:51] do we have any public comments?
[5:55] How do you want to talk?
[5:58] All right. Well, council comments,
[6:06] » think you're good. All right, gentlemen.
[6:10] >> The honorable mayor prom and council, I
[6:14] need to leave at 45, please.
[6:20] >> All right. Please don't vote yes for me
[6:22] after that.
[6:25] >> Okay. I don't think we're gonna have to
[6:27] excuse you. We will ask our our town
[6:29] manager if he's got something to say.
[6:31] Just say every other word and we'll get
[6:34] it done in half the time.
[6:35] >> Thank you.
[6:36] >> That's one of my favorite checks, by the
[6:37] way. Um Mr. Campbell,
[6:40] >> uh just want to recognize that uh next
[6:42] week will be uh 4th of July and it'll be
[6:44] the 250th anniversary.
[6:48] >> All right. And I'd like to thank y'all
[6:50] for coming out tonight, for being here.
[6:53] July
[6:56] you know, it's it's important to have
[6:58] people show up and cheer us on or cheer
[7:00] us down or hold us accountable. So, all
[7:05] right, that being said, Mr. Manager.
[7:10] » Oh, sorry. Uh, Mayor Pro Tim, if I may
[7:13] just mention that the uh we do need to
[7:15] make a note that the mayor is out and
[7:18] that it's for an exempt purpose.
[7:20] >> Thanks for reminding me. Yes, our mayor
[7:21] is out. is for an excused absence and
[7:25] that's why you get to listen to me
[7:26] tonight.
[7:27] >> Thank you, sir. And and thank you,
[7:30] council, as well. I only have a few
[7:32] items for you really quick. First of
[7:34] all, I know that as you all are well
[7:36] aware and also for the community
[7:37] watching at home uh around the UDO
[7:40] language that is currently within the
[7:42] general assembly. There have been
[7:43] multiple conversations here uh in the
[7:45] past few meetings and so I wanted to
[7:47] give a quick update. So that item is SB
[7:50] 1074 or Senate Bill 1074. It's currently
[7:53] in the House. Uh and as of just uh
[7:55] earlier today, it was calendared as a
[7:58] part of the Finance Committee's next
[8:00] meeting, the House Finance Committee's
[8:02] next meeting at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday. So
[8:05] next Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. it'll be heard
[8:07] at the House Finance Committee. Uh and
[8:09] so I just want to provide that update to
[8:11] you all this evening. The other items
[8:14] that I have is that you all may see
[8:16] outside behind the baseball field.
[8:18] There's a there's some um some soil and
[8:22] erosion control measures that are going
[8:24] on out there. That's the very beginning
[8:26] process for the uh baseball field
[8:28] project. That's our FEMA project to uh
[8:31] repair the uh the drainage issues and
[8:34] other related matters that happened
[8:35] during Hurricane Helen. So, right now,
[8:37] that's currently slated to begin on June
[8:40] 29th. And so you all are going to start
[8:42] seeing that work around there. We've
[8:43] obviously been talking with our our
[8:45] partners that use the baseball fields
[8:47] and making sure that we're trying to
[8:48] that we're working around their
[8:49] schedules. But that's another exciting
[8:51] project. I know that we've been talking
[8:53] about it for about a year and a half and
[8:54] so being able to see that work moving
[8:56] forward. I'm excited about that and I
[8:58] really want to thank staff for all of
[8:59] their hard work in making that happen.
[9:02] Last but certainly not least as well
[9:03] around the North Loop update uh a North
[9:06] Loop update as well. That project is
[9:08] continuing to move forward. it continues
[9:10] to move uh on schedule. Uh as you may be
[9:13] may have seen, we've had a lot of dump
[9:14] trucks coming in and out as they've been
[9:16] hauling off the the debris, the sand,
[9:18] silt, and mud debris out there. I don't
[9:20] have an update on timeline other than
[9:22] that things are continuing to move
[9:23] smoothly out there and I'm just really
[9:25] excited to see all the progress and I
[9:28] hope the community is as well. If the
[9:30] community is not aware, the we we did
[9:33] prioritize and we're very happy to say
[9:35] that the river access is available. all
[9:38] uh all areas of the river that for
[9:41] access are open. Now, there's a lot of
[9:43] orange fencing around because we're, you
[9:45] know, mostly we're trying to protect the
[9:46] grass and make sure that it takes root.
[9:48] And so, we're trying to put people into,
[9:50] you know, certain paths to get paths to
[9:53] get to the river, but the um the you
[9:55] know, for tubing purposes, for uh for
[9:58] the beach access, for fishing purposes,
[10:00] the kayak launch, all of those are now
[10:02] open. Uh and if you haven't had an
[10:04] opportunity to go down there, please do.
[10:06] A lot of the community's been out here
[10:07] using them. I try to walk down there
[10:09] every day and I just see tons of kids
[10:10] out there in the water and a lot of kids
[10:12] at heart as well enjoying the river. So,
[10:14] I'm very excited about that. And that
[10:16] concludes my remarks.
[10:17] >> Very good. Thank you.
[10:20] All right. On to the consent agenda. Do
[10:22] we have a motion to approve the consent
[10:24] agenda or is there any discussion?
[10:27] >> I make a motion to approve the consent
[10:28] agenda.
[10:29] >> Right. Have a second.
[10:32] >> A second.
[10:33] >> All right. I have a a motion and a
[10:36] second. All those in favor?
[10:38] >> I
[10:40] consent agenda is approved. Now on to
[10:42] the regular agenda.
[10:44] First, we have the adoption of a
[10:46] resolution 2026-14
[10:49] supporting the submitt of a water
[10:51] resources development grant.
[10:53] >> Yeah. So,
[10:54] >> Mr. McCan.
[10:55] >> Yeah. Thank you, council. and and I'm
[10:57] going to call Greg Jennings up here to
[10:59] the table as well from Jennings uh
[11:01] environmental who's uh just you know the staple of this project and so many
[11:06] other projects when it comes to
[11:07] environmental work in Mills River and around the entire area. So what's
[11:12] before you tonight is what is resolution
[11:15] 202614.
[11:16] As we mentioned, it is a a a resolution
[11:20] to support the submitt of a water
[11:22] resources development grant. Very
[11:24] similar to what we did years ago uh on
[11:27] the on the project already in Mills
[11:29] River by the picnic area in there. this
[11:32] project. Uh it's not requiring that the
[11:36] town by this resolution is not stating
[11:38] that we must go forward with this grant.
[11:41] Merely one of the steps that's required
[11:43] is the a resolution of support from the
[11:46] council saying that you would wish for
[11:49] uh the staff to go forward and pursue
[11:52] this uh this application. What's before
[11:55] you right now is an application specific
[11:58] or a support specifically around the
[12:01] park expansion property bank. So, as you
[12:04] know, FEMA, there's a FEMA project
[12:06] working with the park expansion
[12:08] property. Well, and Kevin's going to
[12:10] scroll down for me a little bit here to
[12:12] see some of the uh some of the other
[12:14] elements that you all have in front of
[12:16] you uh and in your packet, but really
[12:18] there are two major sections that are
[12:20] around for FEMA projects. And right in
[12:23] the middle of those two FEMA projects,
[12:25] there's uh very important work that
[12:27] needs to be done as well for
[12:28] stabilization and mitigation as we plan
[12:31] for the park expansion property. Right.
[12:34] And so what this is looking at and staff
[12:36] has been working very hard and Greg I
[12:38] really want to thank you for all of your
[12:39] hard work as well trying to find funding
[12:41] opportunities to say while we're looking
[12:44] at FEMA projects which we cannot use for
[12:47] this type of mitigation work not in this
[12:49] area as well. How can we also make sure
[12:52] that we're prepared for future park
[12:54] expansion? And so the the DWR grant,
[12:58] it's one that again we're comfortable
[13:00] with. We've used before. And the request
[13:03] is for essentially the grant would be
[13:05] about four would be for $400,000, which
[13:08] would be $200,000 that the town would
[13:10] have to match as a grant, local grant
[13:13] with $200,000 going from if we received
[13:16] the DWR grant. It's a reimbursementbased
[13:19] grant. So essentially we would have to
[13:21] pay for it upfront and then seek
[13:22] reimbursement afterwards just like other
[13:25] grants especially around DWR it's about
[13:27] 30 days for reimbursement. So right now
[13:30] like I said it's the we're requesting
[13:32] the support for this type of project.
[13:34] I'm going to turn over to Greg here in
[13:36] just a second to talk through a little
[13:37] bit more of the project itself and
[13:39] answer any questions because he's the
[13:41] technical expert. Uh, but really the
[13:44] other piece I think that's really
[13:45] helpful for you to know about this is
[13:48] that it's um it would be coming out of
[13:50] the 7 it would be coming out of the
[13:52] $750,000 that's currently assigned for
[13:55] the park expansion uh in July for the
[13:58] next FY27 fiscal year. So that's one. It
[14:01] would be coming out of the capital
[14:02] project fund. So uh the capital the
[14:04] capital project reserve. So it wouldn't
[14:06] be touching available fund balance as
[14:08] well. and also Withers Ravenel and
[14:11] Jennings Environmental have been doing a
[14:13] great job working with each other
[14:15] throughout this process to make sure
[14:16] that uh the work that Withers is trying
[14:19] to do when it comes to the phase one
[14:20] approach will is going to work in tandem
[14:23] with that uh with the work going on at
[14:25] the river. So having river access
[14:27] opportunities getting people to those
[14:29] access points while also making sure
[14:30] there's stability there and we're really
[14:33] trying to protect the river as much as
[14:35] possible. And so those are the main
[14:37] things. The the last thing I'll just
[14:39] mention, and Greg, I'm going to look at
[14:41] you to correct me on this one. We're
[14:42] looking at a fall timeline for a
[14:45] potential uh uh an potential award about
[14:49] this, which would then be if that if we
[14:51] receive it, it would flow right into a
[14:54] spring uh build uh construction
[14:57] timeline, which again also coincides
[15:00] with the Withers Ravenel discussions
[15:01] that we've had about a mid to late
[15:04] spring uh construction of a potential
[15:06] phase one or phase 1/2 to get, as I like
[15:09] to say, boots on the ground over there.
[15:11] So it really seems like a great
[15:12] opportunity to mir to marry these two
[15:14] types of very important projects
[15:16] together. Before you is whether or not
[15:18] you wish for us to proceed with that
[15:20] request.
[15:25] » Whichever one you feel comfortable like
[15:26] Greg,
[15:27] >> is this okay?
[15:28] >> Absolutely.
[15:29] >> So Greg Jennings, I'm with Jennings
[15:30] Environmental. I'm an environmental
[15:32] engineer and I have been working with
[15:36] the town staff for several years. Our
[15:39] team did the project that you're
[15:41] familiar with that has the two river
[15:43] access points and the stream bank
[15:45] stabilization starting back in 2022.
[15:49] And so we're happy to continue with work
[15:52] on the river river bank. And part of
[15:55] that work is the FEMA funded work.
[15:58] >> Uh for whatever reason the FEMA team did
[16:00] not include the what we could call the
[16:03] middle parcel. And if you're looking at
[16:07] this sheet three overview map, that's a
[16:11] good summary of everything that's
[16:13] included in Mills River Park, including
[16:15] the expansion and the area that is not
[16:19] currently funded project area where Matt
[16:23] has just described the grant
[16:25] opportunity. Uh the grant is division of
[16:27] water resources funding. It's 5050
[16:30] money. And so, as Matt described, we
[16:34] would do the riverbank stabilization on
[16:36] town property would not include the
[16:39] privately owned property on the north
[16:41] side of the river, just to be clear. So,
[16:43] it' be the town owned property would
[16:46] require match. It requires a 50 foot
[16:50] buffer, but no easement and no
[16:53] dedication to the state. The state
[16:56] >> pays for the project. It's permitted by
[16:59] the Army Corps. the state and any local
[17:02] ordinances that are applicable
[17:05] >> and the town continues to own and
[17:07] operate and manage the property when
[17:09] it's finished.
[17:10] >> So, I think it's probably most efficient
[17:12] for me to answer questions at this point
[17:14] if you have any
[17:17] >> questions.
[17:19] If in the future we want to put like a
[17:21] boat right up there, could we?
[17:23] >> Yes.
[17:23] >> Okay.
[17:24] >> In fact, we would design in a human
[17:27] access, a walking access if you will.
[17:30] canoes, kayaks, swimming, fishing,
[17:33] tubing would be designed in
[17:37] a boat ramp. Uh, similar to what you
[17:40] have down
[17:42] >> Yeah, that's much
[17:43] >> probably something to talk more
[17:46] extensively about.
[17:48] This is very preliminary.
[17:51] We're applying for the grant. The grant,
[17:53] it's rather vague about what the grant
[17:55] would pay for if and when the funding is
[17:57] approved. October it's state funding. We
[18:00] don't have a state budget yet. So we
[18:02] have to have a state budget. Then we
[18:03] have to be approved and then we have to
[18:06] go through contracting and then design
[18:08] and then that's when we'll get into the
[18:10] details of that.
[18:11] >> Yeah. I'm not I'm I'm saying we have to
[18:13] there's a 50 foot easement.
[18:15] >> Yeah.
[18:16] >> It's not an easement. No. Uh it is
[18:18] strictly a planted buffer.
[18:20] >> Okay. So if in the future
[18:24] somebody wanted to put or the town
[18:26] wanted to put a
[18:27] >> Yeah. You own the property.
[18:28] >> Okay. Okay. That's that was
[18:30] >> there is no deed restriction, no
[18:31] easement, no conservation requirement.
[18:34] >> The budget funding pays for planting a
[18:38] 50 foot buffer. The state likes you to
[18:40] do that. They do not restrict your use
[18:42] of the property.
[18:44] >> Okay. Great.
[18:45] >> There are other grants that do that and
[18:47] I wanted to be clear. This is a
[18:48] nonrestrictive grant. The 50/50
[18:54] » would there be much redisturbance in the
[18:58] area?
[18:58] >> Substantial. Yes.
[19:01] The river banks are 8 to 10 ft high.
[19:05] They're undermined and they're
[19:06] collapsing. Many of the trees that are
[19:08] there are prone to falling in in future
[19:12] events. We would need to remove those
[19:15] the ones that are prone to falling.
[19:18] Regrade the banks. use those trees to
[19:20] help stabilize the pond.
[19:23] >> Well, then how many finger
[19:26] are all up?
[19:28] >> Well, there is an area with that has no
[19:31] trees left currently. There are other
[19:34] areas that have trees that are up to 50
[19:38] or more feet away from the river. And
[19:40] those do not all have to be removed. But
[19:42] because the river meanders as you know
[19:44] how it does, it's the outsides of those
[19:47] bends where it's meandering that it has
[19:50] already washed away all the trees. So
[19:52] we'd be putting trees back there on the
[19:55] insides of the bends. The energy is not
[19:59] affecting the town property. It's
[20:00] actually affecting the neighbors
[20:02] property across the river. And we are
[20:04] trying to work with Mills River
[20:06] Partnership on a whole separate series
[20:08] of grants for agricultural producers for
[20:11] that side. That's separate and we're not
[20:13] asking the town to commit to anything on
[20:16] that, but that's a separate effort for
[20:18] that side. So trees would be removed in
[20:22] areas where they are already falling in
[20:24] or or already gone essentially and a 50
[20:28] foot wide tree corridor would be put
[20:30] back in that area. There is not
[20:34] currently a path there on the expansion
[20:38] property. I'm sure you're familiar with
[20:39] the area. Uh this project would allow a
[20:43] future path. Uh, I'm going to not call
[20:45] it a paved path or a greenway, but a
[20:48] path that could be used. But if we don't
[20:52] do the project, putting a path there
[20:55] would be somewhat at risk because the
[20:58] river is moving quite rapidly onto the
[21:01] propert. And that's one of the items I
[21:03] just wanted to bring forward as well. Uh
[21:06] Greg, if if council would look on the in the black box there on the right
[21:10] hand side, the the water would be
[21:13] flowing into that bend which is at the
[21:15] you know pushing into our property over
[21:19] time. And so as we look at activating
[21:21] that area just by the flow of water uh
[21:24] with having you know conversations with
[21:27] Greg there is there are major concerns
[21:29] that we are going to start losing that
[21:32] property just because of the the
[21:35] degradation of that stream bank. So
[21:38] right now, the reason why we're coming
[21:39] for you to you right now is because
[21:41] there's a benefit with the FEMA projects
[21:44] that we already know that we have to do
[21:45] to get back to preheline conditions
[21:48] while acknowledging that this is a
[21:49] project that requires mitigation and
[21:52] stabilization.
[21:54] Those projects could go simultaneously
[21:57] keeping the funding sources completely
[21:59] separate, making sure because FEMA funds
[22:00] cannot be used for this and we're very
[22:02] clear on that. yet being able to then
[22:05] make sure that the that area is stable
[22:07] and ready for future park use uh at the
[22:11] same time instead of potentially using
[22:13] FEMA funds or using FEMA funds to work
[22:16] downstream only for there to be
[22:18] potential impact again from the fact
[22:21] that this area here is going to continue
[22:24] to degrade.
[22:31] questions.
[22:32] >> Mike, we're allowed to do this with the
[22:34] within the hazard flood hazard.
[22:39] >> I know the answer. I just say
[22:41] >> want it on the air.
[22:44] >> Yes. Uh the flood plane ordinance, one
[22:46] of the specific allowances is basically
[22:49] flood plane and natural restoration
[22:51] projects. So that would be allowed under
[22:52] the ordinance.
[22:57] » Thanks for getting that.
[23:01] All right.
[23:04] Go ahead.
[23:05] >> Good.
[23:06] >> Okay. So, we're good to do a motion. We
[23:09] don't need Okay.
[23:10] >> So, I'll make a motion to approve and
[23:12] adopt resolution 2026-14
[23:15] authorizing staff to apply for the North
[23:17] Carolina Division of Water Resources
[23:20] Develop Water Resources Development
[23:22] Grant for Riverbank Restoration on the
[23:24] Millser Park expansion property and
[23:26] authorize the town manager to sign all
[23:27] necessary documents. Right, we have a
[23:30] motion. Do we have a second?
[23:31] >> We'll second.
[23:32] >> All right, motion and a second. Any
[23:35] discussion?
[23:37] Right. All those in favor?
[23:39] >> I.
[23:40] >> Thank you.
[23:40] >> All right. Passes.
[23:41] >> Thank you, Greg.
[23:43] >> Thank you.
[23:45] All right. I'm trying I'm going to try
[23:47] not to get too excited. Is a traffic
[23:49] engine. I'm trying to, you know, breathe
[23:51] normally.
[23:52] But next item is consideration of NC DOT
[23:55] speed limit reductions by the adoption
[23:58] of concurring ordinances. Mr. Milich,
[24:01] >> thank you councel. Um, so this evening
[24:04] we're uh putting before you the
[24:07] concurring ordinances with the speed
[24:09] limit changes that DOT recommended after
[24:12] conducting the engineering studies uh on
[24:15] the roads identified by council. So just
[24:18] going back in time and recapping quickly
[24:20] for the public. So we had a discussion
[24:22] about general speed issues in the town
[24:24] in mid August. Um staff went to DOT,
[24:28] they studied those roads. We got the
[24:29] results uh in late February. And DOT did
[24:33] recommend speed limit changes for those
[24:35] five identified roads. It includes the
[24:38] eastern section of Schoolhouse Road, the
[24:41] entirety of Jeff Road, and I'll go back
[24:44] and state the limits. Schoolhouse Road,
[24:46] the eastern section going from 45 miles
[24:48] per hour to 40. Jeffris Road, the entire
[24:51] section going from 45 to 40. Uh Butler
[24:54] Bridge Road, the short section between
[24:57] Jeff Road and the French Broad River
[24:59] going from 55 to 45. Banner Farm Road
[25:03] within the town limits going from 45
[25:06] miles per hour to 35 and then a couple
[25:08] different sections on Boilston Highway
[25:11] going from 55 to 50. Um and so we
[25:15] presented those results to council in
[25:17] late February. Um, oh, sorry. We
[25:20] received those in late February,
[25:22] presented them to council in late March,
[25:23] and there was consensus from council to
[25:25] move forward. So, we got the concurring
[25:27] ordinances from DOT and the
[25:28] certification documents and basically
[25:30] are presenting those to you tonight for
[25:32] consideration um by adopting these
[25:35] ordinances and having the clerk certify
[25:37] them. The next step is I will send them
[25:39] to DOT and it will probably take a month
[25:42] or two for them to work through the rest
[25:44] of the process and then for the speed
[25:46] limit signs to be changed. I figure once
[25:48] the speed limit signs are changed,
[25:50] that's the the final basically uh
[25:53] regulatory requirement for the speed
[25:55] limits to be enforced. That's when we
[25:56] can always come back to council and
[25:58] formally update the traffic schedule.
[26:01] Um but in your packet, uh you'll see a
[26:03] number of ordinances. I did just want to
[26:05] explain there's three for Boilston
[26:07] Highway. One's for the northern section
[26:10] from Old Haywood to Cardinal. There's
[26:13] another one for the northern section
[26:14] called the westbound couplet. That's
[26:16] just because it's a divided freeway or
[26:18] highway there and so they have to have a
[26:20] separate ordinance for that other
[26:21] portion of road and then there's also an
[26:24] ordinance for the southern section uh
[26:26] basically between Presbyterian Church
[26:28] Road and Schoolhouse.
[26:30] Um we did find this is in alignment with
[26:32] the strategic plan goal six upholding
[26:34] excellence in community safety and also
[26:36] the comprehensive land use plan.
[26:39] Happy to take questions.
[26:41] Do you know I think we talked about on
[26:44] the southern portion of Pollston Highway
[26:47] northern where the right before the
[26:49] right after the fire department you know
[26:50] raise the speed limit right before it
[26:51] got to the red light.
[26:52] >> Correct. The southern portion. Yep.
[26:53] >> Yeah. Did we didn't get any
[26:54] clarification if they could extend it to
[26:56] the red light.
[26:57] >> They will uh change where the they will
[27:00] basically install the signage so that
[27:02] the signage for the increased speed
[27:04] limit is after the light as you go
[27:06] south. So basically drivers traveling
[27:08] south won't see a 5 miles per hour
[27:11] increase in the posted speed limit till
[27:13] after the light. The reason why they
[27:15] didn't want to change it before the
[27:18] light is because it actually affects the
[27:20] signal timing. They'd have to redo the
[27:21] whole signal and they didn't want to uh
[27:23] move forward with that.
[27:24] >> Gota.
[27:26] >> And one other thing I'll throw out that
[27:28] Mayor Prom Moore brought up uh a while
[27:30] ago. I did ask about the uh school
[27:33] zones, the speed limits. They said
[27:35] that's something DOT works with the
[27:37] schools on directly. So I didn't want to
[27:39] get ahead of council, but if council
[27:41] adopts these tonight, I plan to reach
[27:44] out to the school basically inform them
[27:46] of the changes and if they wish for the
[27:48] school speed limit to be dropped by 10
[27:50] miles hour because it's not going to,
[27:53] you know, it's usually 10 miles hour off
[27:55] the posted speed limit. Uh we'll get
[27:57] them with POT and make sure that
[27:59] happens.
[28:00] >> Sounds good.
[28:03] Any questions?
[28:07] All right. Well, like to entertain a
[28:11] motion if someone's got one.
[28:13] >> I'll make a motion that we adopt
[28:14] ordinances 202614
[28:16] through 202620 approving lowering the
[28:19] speed limits on the subject roads as
[28:21] presented.
[28:22] >> All right, we have a motion. Do we have
[28:23] a second?
[28:26] » All those are any discussion?
[28:30] All right. All those in favor? I
[28:34] Thank you.
[28:35] >> Thank you. Thanks for your hard work on
[28:37] that. That's near and dear to my heart
[28:39] because I started griping about it when
[28:41] I first came on the planning board. So,
[28:45] I mean, just that we didn't have a lot
[28:47] of concurring ordinances with DOT. So,
[28:50] but that's great. And I'm not saying it
[28:52] took you forever to do it. I'm just
[28:54] saying that it's hard work and people,
[28:56] you know, we got to realize that getting
[28:58] these things done isn't a snap and it's
[29:01] snap your fingers and it's done.
[29:03] Okay.
[29:05] Next, talk about the adoption of a
[29:08] resolution 2026-15
[29:10] in response to North Carolina General uh
[29:13] GS General Statute 143-135 for force
[29:16] account labor. Ms. Ostein.
[29:25] » Thank you, council. Um so one of the
[29:28] items um for one of the FEMA projects um
[29:31] is the wellhouse and the wellhouse needs
[29:35] a roof. So um the um resolution that you
[29:41] have here in front of you is what is
[29:43] required if the town wishes to use staff
[29:48] to do the work on the on the warehouse
[29:52] and not fit it out. So that is why you
[29:55] have a resolution here um to request
[29:59] permission
[30:01] um to actually have our staff to do a
[30:04] repair for a project that could be bid
[30:07] out to contract.
[30:10] >> Yeah. And thank you Julie for that. Just
[30:12] a a couple other points of
[30:14] clarification. U obviously we don't have
[30:16] to do this for everything because our
[30:17] staff does a lot of work around here.
[30:19] That's part of their jobs. But this is
[30:20] really around that contracting and that
[30:22] construction type work. We do have a
[30:24] member of staff that does have a
[30:25] contracting license. Uh and so being
[30:28] able to lean in on that the there's no change in expect of
[30:34] responsibilities or costs that are
[30:36] associated with this by using someone in
[30:38] house. There's no extra fitting or like
[30:40] your internal cost structures that
[30:42] change with this. It's there. It's their
[30:44] hours. It's their time. We were just
[30:46] asking we are asking for that permission
[30:48] if you then
[30:50] an outside
[30:53] and that'll save time from having to do
[30:55] a contract
[30:57] someone were already paying they've got
[30:59] the skills the ability so it'll be
[31:02] should be a pretty good cost savings for
[31:04] town
[31:05] >> sure and it's also a FEMA project so
[31:07] then it is time reimbured
[31:09] >> reimburse
[31:13] all right so this is the form the formal
[31:15] part which allows allows us to do it and
[31:17] keep the FEMA funding
[31:22] » questions on that.
[31:24] >> He's just making
[31:26] salary not correct.
[31:28] >> He's he will just be paid for his hours
[31:32] work like he would normally for anything
[31:34] he does in the park. If we have this
[31:38] future events, but they have to
[31:41] reclock this indivision or would this
[31:44] cover
[31:46] is just for this one?
[31:47] >> I believe they would. Yes.
[31:51] >> Okay.
[31:54] It's anytime you're you're doing
[31:56] something that you would normally bid
[31:57] out
[31:58] >> that you have to come back and get
[32:00] permission.
[32:06] discussion, questions.
[32:10] » So, I make a motion to approve and adopt
[32:12] resolution 2026-15
[32:14] authorizing the use of force account
[32:16] labor to repair the warehouse roof on
[32:18] the expansion property.
[32:19] >> Got a motion. We have a second.
[32:21] >> Second.
[32:22] >> Motion and a second. All those Any
[32:24] discussion?
[32:26] All those in favor? I
[32:30] >> we need to talk to FEMA about changing
[32:31] the term force account labor.
[32:33] >> Yeah.
[32:34] >> For staff members, but uh I think that's
[32:36] going to be a bigger problem the cross.
[32:39] >> Sure.
[32:41] >> All right. Now, we've got a couple of
[32:43] vacancies on our boards. U the first one
[32:46] is the second alternate position on the
[32:49] board of adjustment.
[32:51] >> We have received no new applications
[32:53] since last time we talked. Um so, you
[32:56] have some options. you can appoint from
[32:57] the applications on file. Um, one thing
[33:00] I wanted to talk to you about is a lot
[33:03] of communities um, use their planning
[33:05] board as the board of adjustment. As you
[33:08] know, this board um, some some boards
[33:11] already serve on board of adjustment.
[33:13] So, that's something you might want to
[33:14] also think about is would you like me to
[33:16] talk to your planning board to see if
[33:17] any of those would be willing to serve
[33:19] on board adjustment also. So, that's an
[33:22] option. Um or we can continue to
[33:24] advertise position.
[33:28] >> Okay. We have we do have some some
[33:31] applications on file.
[33:33] >> Applications on file right now.
[33:51] And I think that's They had said before
[34:01] it's a lot to ask someone. We've got
[34:03] dedicated people that are willing to do.
[34:06] It's a lot.
[34:09] >> How many I mean I know at one time at
[34:12] one point in time there was discussion
[34:13] about letting the uh council serve as
[34:17] the board of adjustments.
[34:19] Do you have an
[34:20] >> some places do that?
[34:23] >> Does you have a legal opinion about
[34:24] that?
[34:25] >> I mean, you can do that. Um,
[34:28] that is it's a lot. It's a big
[34:29] responsibility. Um, and the issue that I
[34:32] see when you're putting planning board
[34:34] members on board of adjustment and vice
[34:36] versa. It's two different processes. One
[34:38] is legislative, one is quasi judicial.
[34:40] And it's hard to differentiate between
[34:42] the two when you're trying to do both.
[34:44] Would be my concern.
[34:47] >> We have
[34:48] I have experience where they have served
[34:52] in both roles and I will say if that is
[34:54] a direction that the council wishes to
[34:55] vote for there's a lot of training that
[34:57] has to go to uh making sure that we do
[35:00] protect that they that they do
[35:02] understand those clear differences
[35:04] between those two and so um obviously we
[35:07] can get that training done but there's
[35:09] also going to be a dedicated they need
[35:11] to be dedicated to make sure that they
[35:13] go through all the required trends so
[35:15] that we don't run into those issues.
[35:18] having served on both at the same time.
[35:20] It is Yeah, it's
[35:24] turning your brain off from one way of
[35:26] thinking
[35:28] uh when you're in the other meeting is not always easy, especially if you know uh have certain expertise that
[35:38] you're really wanting to do it. that you
[35:40] have to put that aside and and listen to
[35:42] it is um that what's being presented. So
[35:47] it's it's not easy
[35:53] discussion.
[35:57] I mean, I'm okay with tableing it for
[36:00] now because it's a second alternate
[36:01] position, but
[36:03] see what pops up.
[36:06] >> One person.
[36:08] >> To do that, we would um
[36:11] do we do that with consensus or we need
[36:13] to make a motion to table it or not?
[36:22] » I'll make a motion that we table this. I
[36:26] don't continue to advise the vacancy for
[36:30] future date.
[36:32] >> Have a motion. Do we have a second?
[36:33] >> I'll second.
[36:34] >> Right. Discussion. Further discussion.
[36:37] >> Do we have a future date? Do you have
[36:38] anything in mind
[36:41] like August?
[36:42] >> August. The first meeting in August.
[36:48] » All right. We have a motion and a
[36:50] second. All those in favor?
[36:53] >> I.
[36:54] now have vacancy on the planning board
[36:57] to discuss.
[36:59] We did have
[37:01] >> you you have received a new application
[37:03] since last time we talked about this and
[37:05] I've included um it in your packet. Um,
[37:08] I did ask her to come tonight, but she's
[37:11] out of town, so she's unable to attend
[37:20] four applications on file and options
[37:23] are from one of the applications. Um,
[37:31] » wait till she has a chance to get
[37:33] talking.
[37:37] I asked um
[37:41] why
[37:43] I would be okay with
[37:50] her over the weekend.
[37:53] >> I called her spoke with her today.
[38:03] She said she's start
[38:12] she have a lot of good.
[38:24] Can I make the motion to appoint Amber
[38:26] Fulmore to the planning board to
[38:28] two-year term ending June 25th, 2028?
[38:32] >> All right, we have a motion.
[38:34] and a
[38:35] second. All in favor?
[38:37] >> I
[38:39] >> All right, thank you. Do we have any
[38:41] other business?
[38:43] >> F.
[38:44] >> Oh, some idiot didn't write it down
[38:46] first.
[38:49] » I'm F.
[38:52] Okay. So, we have a budget amendment
[38:54] grant project ordinance FEMA Z.
[39:03] And by the way, when I say some idiot,
[39:05] that's me. Don't call anyone else that.
[39:08] Young people don't call people idiots.
[39:09] It's no good.
[39:11] >> So, council, before you is a budget
[39:13] amendment um for the grant project
[39:15] ordinance with the approval of the
[39:18] submission for the
[39:21] grant um for um
[39:25] the uh baseball field. The that
[39:28] application that process was completed.
[39:31] Uh the grant was awarded. We have
[39:34] received the money for the uh baseball
[39:36] field. So we are asking that um this
[39:40] budget amendment be presented to reflect
[39:43] what we've received from FEMA to cover
[39:45] the expenses for that project that will
[39:47] begin on Monday as well as um to add
[39:52] some additional cost for CAT Z which is
[39:55] the administrative costs um to for the
[40:01] engineering company firm to oversee
[40:03] those as well as the land of sky that
[40:06] helps us with the grant um project
[40:10] management of the theme projects. So
[40:12] that's what the um amendment here is for
[40:15] is $45,000 for the CATZ administrative
[40:19] costs and then the $161,000 that we were
[40:23] awarded by FEMA for the baseball repair.
[40:29] Have any questions?
[40:39] So,
[40:40] >> would anyone be interested in a motion?
[40:41] You'll have to freelance this one.
[40:43] >> I'll make a motion to adopt the
[40:44] amendment to the grant project ordinance
[40:46] 2026-21 to allocate additional funds for
[40:48] category Z
[40:50] >> and the baseball field.
[40:54] >> Thank you.
[40:55] >> All right. Is there a second?
[40:57] >> Second.
[40:59] You all right? Any discussion? If not,
[41:03] all those in favor
[41:05] >> I.
[41:09] » All right. Now, on to other business.
[41:17] » Um,
[41:19] for this meeting, is there anything
[41:21] other business? I'm not showing anything
[41:23] here. And then we'll adjourn this
[41:25] meeting.
[41:28] >> Do we need to talk about Tuesday?
[41:32] We don't want to talk about that.
[41:33] >> It would be if council would just talk
[41:35] about it.
[41:37] >> Okay. Sounds like we've got a candidate
[41:39] for other business. Um
[41:44] >> I guess it's just arranging who's going
[41:45] to go since we made the motion to send a
[41:47] delegation team down there.
[41:49] >> Yes. So, uh yes,
[41:53] mention BTO is who may miss the last
[41:55] meeting. Yeah. So with the the a letter
[41:58] was sent uh for uh council request and
[42:03] to the finance committee the house
[42:06] finance committee uh earlier this week
[42:09] to all all of those legislators and
[42:12] their assistants also through our
[42:14] representatives and also at that meeting
[42:17] council uh requested that a delegation
[42:19] would be able to go down there once it's
[42:21] calendared assistance calendar for two
[42:24] days not that try to better understand
[42:27] whether or not that is still the case
[42:29] for this uh for this council and or uh
[42:32] if there's anyone who's willing and able
[42:34] to
[42:36] >> would now be an okay time for you to
[42:38] read the letter so we can get it in the
[42:40] uh the record.
[42:41] >> I'm happy to read the letter if you want
[42:44] to have that submitted. This is what we
[42:48] sent.
[42:50] Y'all okay with that?
[42:53] Okay. Would you be willing to read it?
[42:56] >> Okay. Asking me to read it. Okay. Yes.
[42:58] Happy to.
[43:02] » It's a long letter.
[43:03] >> It is a long letter.
[43:04] >> I just hit the highlight.
[43:07] If it's all right for the record, I may
[43:08] read it word for word.
[43:11] >> Careful what you ask for. Yes.
[43:14] >> So, it says, "Dear honorable
[43:17] representative Julia C. Howard, senior
[43:19] committee chair. We the town council of
[43:21] Mills River, North Carolina formally
[43:23] oppose part two of SB 1074 titled Mills
[43:26] River Unified Development Ordinance.
[43:29] Header legislative request oppose part
[43:32] two of SB 1074 at a minimum amend the
[43:35] bill to remove the town of Mills River
[43:38] ensuring the implementation of a UDO
[43:40] that reflects the will of the community.
[43:42] SB 1074 was referred to the finance
[43:44] house standing committee on June 22nd,
[43:46] 2026. It is imperative for the house
[43:49] committee to understand the town's
[43:50] unique circumstances that generated the
[43:53] downzoning exemption granted under
[43:55] SL2025-32
[43:57] and our yearslong dedication to
[43:59] receiving and incorporating community
[44:01] feedback. These efforts resulted in
[44:03] council's adoption of the town's first
[44:05] unified development ordinance in
[44:07] parentheses UDO on June 11, 2026 by a 4
[44:10] to1 vote. The UDO becomes effective
[44:12] September 1, 2026. Part two of SB 1074
[44:17] would nullify the actions of town
[44:19] council and more importantly the efforts
[44:21] of the town's residents.
[44:23] Subheader Mills River, a unique story.
[44:26] In July 2024, town council officially
[44:29] approved a contract to draft the town's
[44:31] first UDO, which included the
[44:33] development of a new zoning map, the
[44:34] first since the town's incorporation in
[44:36] 2003, at a cost of $194,000.
[44:40] In conjunction with the project kickoff,
[44:42] the town was considering a new less
[44:44] dense zoning designation for
[44:45] approximately 1/ half of the town's
[44:47] geographic area located within a
[44:49] mixeduse district. That district, the
[44:52] Mills River mixeduse in parenthesis MREN
[44:55] MU, covers approximately threequarters
[44:57] of the town with few restrictions and
[44:59] few dimensional standards, raising
[45:01] concerns over future developments that
[45:04] neither reflect the town's vision nor
[45:05] infrastructure capabilities. However,
[45:08] prior to approval of the town's UDO,
[45:10] SL2024-57
[45:13] passed, which removed local government
[45:14] downzoning authority without property
[45:16] owner approval. We believe the North
[45:19] Carolina State Legislature recognized
[45:21] the unique challenges the town of Mills
[45:23] River faced when it approved SL2025-32
[45:26] which states colon Mills River Unified
[45:29] Development Ordinance section 2.3
[45:32] parenthesis A notwithstanding GS160D
[45:38] 601 as amended by section 3K.1
[45:43] parenthesis A of SL2024-57.
[45:46] The town of Mil River may adopt the
[45:48] unified development ordinance initiated
[45:50] by the town council in October 2024.
[45:53] Section 2.3
[45:55] parenthesis B. This section is effective
[45:57] when it becomes law and any adoption of
[45:59] the unified development ordinance shall
[46:01] occur on or before July 1, 2026.
[46:05] In light of such exemption, the town
[46:07] worked tirelessly to create a UDO that
[46:09] accurately reflected the goals and
[46:10] desires of the town and its residents.
[46:14] subhead communitydriven approach. The
[46:18] town of Mills River made a good faith
[46:19] effort to work within its granted
[46:21] authority throughout the UDO process
[46:23] focusing on transparency and community
[46:25] engagement. Below are key statistics
[46:27] outlining our citizen focused approach.
[46:29] Item one or bullet one five total public
[46:33] forums with a total of seven separate
[46:35] sessions. Total time hyphen
[46:37] approximately 20 hours. sub bullet. Two
[46:40] large scale formal presentations and
[46:43] input sharing sessions at Mil River
[46:45] Elementary School. Meeting number one
[46:47] had an estimated 125 plus attendees.
[46:51] Bullet two, 10 office hour sessions
[46:54] totaling 34 hours. Sub bullet. These
[46:57] sessions were conducted over a year
[46:59] where the public could attend, ask
[47:00] questions about the UDO, and provide
[47:02] their input. Bullet three, 11 town
[47:05] council meetings, presentations, and
[47:07] code report code review sessions with
[47:09] consultant. Sub bullet conducted over
[47:12] approximately 1.5 years to receive
[47:14] feedback and present updates. Bullet
[47:17] four, 16 project steering committee
[47:20] meetings. Total time hyphen
[47:22] approximately 39 hours. Sub bullet. The
[47:25] project steering committee was made up
[47:27] of members representing various local
[47:29] boards and committees. Bullet five,
[47:32] 4,358
[47:34] informal postcard and sorry
[47:36] 4358formational
[47:38] postcards mailed to all unique property
[47:41] addresses in January 2026. Subullet one,
[47:45] 1,115formational
[47:47] one pagers were distributed to local
[47:49] elementary schools to reach parents in
[47:51] January 2026. Sub bullet two. 490 public
[47:55] notice letters mailed to out of town
[47:58] property owners in May 2026 announcing
[48:00] the public hearing. Bullet six
[48:04] 38 zoning change requests submitted by
[48:06] community members out of 4,330
[48:09] parcels parenthesis less than 0.9%.
[48:14] Sub bullet 28 zoning change requests
[48:17] approved. Correction period for all
[48:19] residents colon one year. Bullet seven.
[48:24] Four publicly available zoning map
[48:25] drafts available for review and feedback
[48:27] from the community. Community input,
[48:30] council direction, and steering
[48:31] committee guidance directly influenced
[48:33] each iteration.
[48:35] Bullet 8. 21 hours of other public
[48:38] engagement through stakeholder
[48:40] interviews, informational presentations
[48:42] to committees, andformational booths at
[48:45] local events. The town of Mills River
[48:47] acts in good faith and within the
[48:49] authority granted in SL2025-32
[48:53] when adopting the town of Mills River
[48:55] Ordinance 2026-9
[48:57] colon an ordinance adopting the town of
[48:59] Mills River unified development
[49:01] ordinance official zoning map and
[49:03] overlay district map semicolon
[49:05] consolidating and replacing existing
[49:07] land use and development regulations
[49:10] under GS160A-1
[49:12] 174 the town is granted broad ordinance
[49:15] making power to regul or abate acts
[49:17] detrimental to the health, safety, or
[49:19] welfare of its citizens and to define
[49:22] and abate nuisances. The town utilizing
[49:25] such authority along with that of
[49:27] GS160D-601
[49:29] adopted ordinance 2026-09
[49:33] to now undo what has already been done
[49:35] under the town's authority to regulate
[49:36] health, safety, and wear welfare and the
[49:39] abatement of nuisances would seem to
[49:41] conflict with NC constitutional article
[49:44] 2 section 24 which states that the
[49:48] general assembly shall not enact any
[49:50] local, private, or special act or
[49:52] resolution relating to the health,
[49:54] sanitation, and the abatement of
[49:56] nuisances. For more information, contact
[49:59] Matthew McCarahan, town manager, town of
[50:01] Mills River, 828892901.
[50:04] Matthew mccaranham river.gov.
[50:08] >> Thank you. That was excellent job. I
[50:11] could have made it through that. Very
[50:13] good. Um, I think that was very well
[50:16] written. It was done. It was
[50:20] uh done by our town manager and our
[50:23] legal working with our legal staff and I
[50:26] think you all just did a fantastic job
[50:28] on that.
[50:31] >> Thanks sir. If I may, I'll just mention
[50:32] as well before this letter went out uh
[50:35] there was council consensus to send this
[50:37] letter out to uh council council was
[50:41] able to review and there was council
[50:42] consensus to send this letter out uh to
[50:44] the finance house. Very
[50:48] good
[50:50] questions, comments.
[50:52] I mean it
[50:55] that outlines the whole process and it
[50:57] also reflects the comprehensive plan. So
[51:01] it wasn't just four people imposing our
[51:05] will on the town. It was a council that
[51:09] listened to the people, understood their
[51:12] will,
[51:14] doing our best for the town. All
[51:19] right, that being said, who wants to go
[51:21] to Raleigh? Who can go to Raleigh?
[51:25] If that's still something we as council
[51:27] want to do.
[51:28] >> And if I may, I'll just mention because
[51:30] it's 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday. Uh there may need to be consideration for
[51:35] leaving on Monday for an overnight stay
[51:38] or else we'd be leaving about 3:00 a.m.
[51:40] on Tuesday morning. And if that is a
[51:43] desire of this council as well, there's
[51:46] we could have a discussion about whether
[51:48] or not there needs to be other potential
[51:50] meetings set up on that Monday prior to
[51:52] the Tuesday discussion. So again, I just
[51:54] throw that out for consideration,
[51:56] potential discussion. There's no
[51:58] recommendation.
[52:03] » I'm available to go if we need to.
[52:10] Next week's a short week. It's a 4 day
[52:12] week or
[52:15] you know at work. So it'll be hard hard
[52:18] for me to go next week. Lose for all
[52:21] intents and purposes two days.
[52:25] » Yeah, it's going to be hard to go Monday
[52:27] night.
[52:42] If council does not wish to try to have
[52:44] meetings on that Monday, then there
[52:46] could be a late Monday
[52:52] movement to you know, you know, a lead
[52:54] time departure time on that Monday
[52:56] night. I just want to make sure that we,
[52:58] you know, get there by the 9:00 a.m.
[53:00] meeting. It is sometimes difficult to
[53:02] get meeting. So it easier if there was a
[53:05] late at least a minimum of late Monday
[53:08] uh departure and then once the meeting
[53:10] is over depending on whether or not the
[53:12] delegation wish to stay longer after the
[53:14] meeting for other meetings were to come
[53:16] back.
[53:19] >> I mean I don't think there's any issue
[53:20] with leaving after work Monday.
[53:23] >> I could do that. and it would just be
[53:26] one day.
[53:31] » We don't have to go all the way to
[53:32] Raleigh to stay.
[53:34] We could stay and how out or something
[53:36] if that's a concern getting there too
[53:38] late.
[53:40] >> I don't go to bed till 1:00 in the
[53:42] morning anyways.
[53:44] >> It doesn't matter what time I go to bed.
[53:46] I'm asleep before that.
[53:49] Just where am I sleeping at at the time?
[53:53] Okay. So we'll talk
[53:56] >> as long as we can coordinate. I mean
[53:58] we'll coordinate it outside of that.
[53:59] >> So what I'm hearing is that there's
[54:01] still a desire to go with a delegation
[54:04] with
[54:16] read letter. Well if we do I I can read
[54:19] it if that's can't read that whole
[54:22] letter like needed.
[54:25] You'll do fine.
[54:27] >> Thanks. Appreciate that. Okay.
[54:32] Sounds like a plan. All right. That
[54:35] being said, I would entertain a motion
[54:37] to adjourn this the regular meeting.
[54:40] >> I make a motion to adjourn the regular
[54:42] meeting and enter into our business
[54:44] meeting.
[54:45] >> All right. Need a second.
[54:49] >> All those in favor? I.
[54:52] >> Okay. Now, uh, call to order the
[54:56] business meeting.
[54:59] First item on the agenda, future
[55:00] preliminary agenda items. July 9th,
[55:04] adoption of the updated PAL bill map and
[55:07] charge the tax collector with collecting
[55:09] taxes.
[55:12] Discussion.
[55:13] >> Yeah. Talk about that.
[55:15] >> Yeah. Normally we only have one item. Uh
[55:17] so for the July meeting so this year we
[55:20] have two just just the PAL bill
[55:21] requirements as well. So that that's the
[55:23] only rule of this year
[55:26] >> and then consensus I'm I'm good with
[55:28] that. What do you need?
[55:30] >> No just just making sure that you all
[55:31] are comfortable with the the agenda as
[55:34] if there's anything else we need to
[55:35] start
[55:37] right now for August 13th. The only
[55:39] thing that's really on that agenda right
[55:41] now is around ETC computer survey
[55:43] presentation. That's
[55:46] the public and sorry I apologize the uh the public hearing for R262
[55:52] and and as well as the
[56:01] August meeting set
[56:04] in July set.
[56:10] Yeah, I believe the public hearing is
[56:12] already set. We just set it up.
[56:15] >> Yeah. Said um
[56:20] » sounds reason. No, I I've had several
[56:24] people. I don't know if we need to do
[56:26] this during the business meeting or what
[56:28] we need to do. But on Jish
[56:31] that short
[56:33] the road
[56:39] around hurricane
[56:44] side.
[56:47] So there um and just just for
[56:49] clarification, we if you're coming from
[56:52] 280 coming towards Atlanta, if you go
[56:54] through the bin going and uh going
[56:57] towards Lane on the right, there has
[56:59] been under there has been some
[57:00] undermining there. We actually uh have
[57:02] been working with DOT for uh we we
[57:05] reached out to DOT quite a while back
[57:07] about that issue because we've heard
[57:09] from those that live up uh in those
[57:11] neighborhoods about that concern. And so
[57:13] at least Mike, I don't want to put you
[57:15] on the spot here, but at least my memory
[57:17] served to me that
[57:19] well instead of me trying to do it, Mike
[57:22] again. So
[57:22] >> I remember y
[57:24] >> uh very familiar with that section. Um
[57:26] besides just submitting a request to DOT
[57:29] through their portal, we also emailed
[57:31] the maintenance yard supervisors so they
[57:33] are aware of it. Um, I actually went out
[57:36] and climbed down that bank and believe
[57:38] it or not, there are uh dozens of uh
[57:42] animal dens in the hillside that are
[57:45] also contributing to the undermining.
[57:46] And so we got DOT to put I think a
[57:49] couple of cones out, but uh we got
[57:51] basically the response that they would
[57:53] put it on their list and they would get
[57:54] to it as time allows. I'm happy to
[57:57] follow up on that with them again if
[57:59] that's
[58:01] >> they did fix
[58:03] bridge. Yes,
[58:04] >> they did some repault
[58:09] there because it's coming back
[58:12] roads getting
[58:14] >> pretty scary.
[58:16] >> I'd be happy to bring that back to their
[58:17] attention.
[58:19] >> Very good. Thank you.
[58:21] All right.
[58:23] any future potential agenda items we
[58:25] want to talk about.
[58:32] » Okay,
[58:33] >> I make a motion to adjourn.
[58:35] >> I'll second.
[58:36] >> All right. All in favor?
[58:39] >> I
[58:41] thanks for coming tonight. Thanks for
[58:43] what y'all do. Thank you for being up
[58:45] here. Thank you.
[58:47] That was fast.