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We are broadcasting live. Good morning
everyone. Uh this is the meeting of the

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town of Mono Council held on Tuesday,
August 25th, 2026. Uh this meeting is

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being conducted both in chambers and by
means of electronic participation as

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permitted by section 238 subsection 3.1
of the municipal act of 2001 as amended

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and the town of Mono procedural bylaw
2020-42.

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Uh residents can uh join us as the
meeting progresses or view uh offline uh

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later on uh on uh YouTube. We do have a
quorum here today. Uh a reminder that

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emergency exits are in the rear of the
council chamber. Uh members are free to

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declare pecuniary interest at this point
or any point in the course of the

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meeting. And I believe we have one
declaration

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uh which has been filed with the clerk
and I'll call on councelor Davyy to do

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the indigenous land acknowledgement.
>> Thank you, Mayor Kman. We would like to

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begin by respectfully acknowledging that
the town of Mono resides within the

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traditional territories and ancestral
lands of the Tonatante, the Adowandran,

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the Hudnosoni, and the Anesnabi peoples.
We also acknowledge that the town of

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Mono resides within the treaty lands
named under treaty 18, the Nadawasaga

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purchase of 1818. These traditional
territories upon which we live and learn

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are steeped in rich indigenous history
and traditions. It is with this

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statement that we declare to honor and
respect the past and present connection

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of indigenous peoples with this land,
its waterways and resources.

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» Thank you. I have a motion that council
approves the agenda of session 13-2026

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as circulated. Moved by councelor Cape,
seconded by deputy mayor Nicks. Any

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objections to this motion passing? Uh it
therefore passes.

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I have a motion that council approves
the minutes of session 12 2026 as

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circulated. Moved by councelor Davyy,
seconded by councelor Magalo. Uh any

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issues?
Seeing none, motion passes.

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Um,
we have a uh a motion that the minutes

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of council session 9, 2026 held on May
12th, 2026

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uh as approved by resolution uh
2-10-2026

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be amended by replacing the word
anti-racism with anti-semitism in

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section 3 subsection pardon me in
section 3 subsection 3. Um and there is

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a recollection of the uh of that issue.
Uh moved by uh deputy mayor, seconded by

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councelor Davey. Any further discussion?
That motion carries.

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We have no proclamations today. That
brings us to public question period of

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Fred or Jessica. Any any submissions
online?

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» There were no submissions uh submitted
in advance of the meeting. Your worship.

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» Thank you. Uh, we don't have anyone in
the gallery today. Is there anyone

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online who has a question for us?

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Doesn't appear to be.

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I'm wondering if we are in a position to
proceed with our uh delegation from

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Headarters Healthc Care uh center. I
know it's a little early for that, but

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uh is is it the wish of council to uh to
proceed?

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» Uh good good morning uh Kim and Francis.
Um just a a gentle reminder that we have

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all read your presentation
uh and it is available to uh our

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residents online to read. So if you can
uh paraphrase the uh the high notes that

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for our benefit that would be terrific.
It will allow for more interaction with

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council.
The floor is yours.

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» Good morning, Mayor Creelman and
council. Thank you very much for having

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us this morning and I would be more than
happy to uh paraphrase and touch on just

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the key takeaways. So, I won't bother
sharing uh my slides even because you've

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all seen them. But, uh I did want to
highlight just on some of the successes

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from the past fiscal year and then I'll
focus just for a couple minutes on key

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takeaways on what we're focusing on this
fiscal year. There was a slide included

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a by the numbers year-over-year slide
just to share some of the trending

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year-over-year with the volumes we're
seeing at headarters. I think just to

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highlight is that you know our ED
volumes have remained pretty consistent

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year-over-year. Uh but where we are
seeing some real growth and which

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continues is in our obstetrical
department. So the number of babies that

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continue to be delivered at headarters
is increasing year-over-year. That trend

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is continuing to increase. We have had
many months now with over a hundred

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babies delivered per month. So that's
very exciting for us. Uh our chemo

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program, we are expanding our oncology
program. We're also going to be seeing

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increases in our diagnostic imaging
numbers now that our MRI hours and

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numbers are ramping up rapidly. Our lab
test saw a big increase. Uh in addition,

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we're focusing on increasing our
outpatient visits. So I think um one of

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the takeaways is last year and
continuing to this fiscal is we're

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continuing to look at what services uh
we can expand where the pressures are

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where the demand is uh and to always
look at what are the population

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projections who's moving into our area
so that we can continue to offer uh

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programs and services that are needed
most. Uh the other highlight just from

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the last fiscal year obviously our MRI
going live but I also wanted to focus on

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some of the plant uh upgrades we've done
at the hospital to reduce our emissions

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to improve our efficiency to reduce our
natural gas use because I am very proud

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to share and you saw that that
headarters we received the biggest

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rebate check um in the province actually
from uh Enbridge Gas Energy last year.

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So really proud of that. We've got new
boilers, all new equipment up in our um

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top rooftop facility area. So, really
pleased with that. So, I'm now I'm going

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to focus on this current fiscal year. Uh
we are focusing on our ED, our emergency

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department expansion. So, as you know,
we'll be celebrating our 30th

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anniversary being in this location next
year. So, our ED department is a 30 30

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plus year old design. uh the volumes we
are seeing are significantly more than

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what the space was intended to serve. So
we're working through that process with

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the ministry. So that expansion is
underway. Uh excited about that. Uh

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happy to share that our um foundation
completed their biggest ever campaign of

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$18 million and they'll soon be
launching their new campaign to support

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our emergency department expansion. So
you'll hear more about that which is

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very exciting. And then of course we
continue to focus on reducing our weight

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times uh in our emergency department and
in other areas such as surgical weight

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times and for any other programs and
services. We are looking at and

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embracing more and more artificial
intelligence in the hospital through

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various programs uh and features in our
current health information system. We're

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very proud to be continuing on with the
Toronto Metropolitan University School

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of Medicine taking on more uh residents
and students and increasing all of our

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other academic partnerships. And then
lastly, I'll just end on a focus that is

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always at headarters and that is how can
we continue to best support our staff,

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our physicians, our volunteers, our, you
know, internal culture, our workforce

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sustainability uh is something that is
always top of mind here so that we can

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ensure that our staff are here ready to
support anyone that walks through our

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doors and that we have a very positive
and healthy and safe uh workplace here

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at Headarters. With that, I'm I'll pause
and I'm more than happy to take any

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questions.
>> Yes. Um Ralph,

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» um thanks very much uh uh Kim and
Francis for coming here um and putting

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yourself in the position of being asked
difficult questions by our deputy mayor.

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Uh the I'd like to just comment very
favorably on what's going on there. I

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think that um uh the reputation of the
hospital for strong governance and uh

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great service is uh is communitywide and
um um I congratulate you for your part

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in in that. I also congratulate you for
looking ahead and as you have been doing

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regularly and about making new plans. So
I have three questions related to the uh

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some things that are relatively new.
What is the present emergency uh

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department wait time? Number two, um
could you fill us in a little bit more

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on where we are with the community
health hub? And the third one is about

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medical students and TMU, which we can
Thank you.

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Thank you, counselor. Yes, happy to
answer those questions. So, the first

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one uh about the current ED weight time.
I don't have the ED weight time clock

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up, but uh I will share. So last year
the provincial

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uh target for time to see a position in
emergency departments across the

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province was less than four hours. So
last year we achieved uh 3.9 hours was

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our performance. So really happy with
that. This year the province um has

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reduced that target to be less than 3.4
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department. So we are working obviously
very hard to achieve and beat that

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target of 3.4 hours to see a physician
in our merge. So we see stats on a daily

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basis. Each day I get a a dashboard
which looks at for the previous day what

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was the average weight time. It
fluctuates. We've had days where it's

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been as low as 2.5 hours. Uh and of
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where it is over the four hours. So it
varies but we are working towards

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performance of less than 3.4 hours which
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making investments to support that. So
we do currently have three physician

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assistants uh in emergency department
that help with the workflow. We've also

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implemented a new um rapid triage
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is supported actually by one of the ED
positions themselves. Uh so we're trying

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different innovative things. We have a
new it's called the hero AI dashboard in

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emergency department. So that's inward
facing where our physicians and nurses

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there can can rapidly see how many
patients are in the department. Which

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area are they in? Have they been
triaged? Are they waiting to see the

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doctor? Are they waiting for a DI scan?
Are they waiting for a lab test? So

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we're we're also looking at uh other
supports to improve the flow in our ED.

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Uh second question you had was about the
community health hub. Uh so that work I

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know is underway uh in partnership with
all of our Ontario health team or OHT

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partners. So I know they're busy looking
at uh how to get that stood up and how

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to increase the volumes there.
Unfortunately I don't have any specifics

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about that councelor Magdalo. So I'd
have to follow up on that. Uh all I do

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know is that our OT partners um continue
to meet and support um the

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implementation of that and increasing of
volumes. And then I know your third one

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uh was around uh medical students and
our partnership with the Toronto

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Metropolitan University School of
Medicine. So we continue to take on more

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students. This is our second full year
of taking on residents uh with that

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partnership and I know um they're very
keen for all hospital partners to

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increase numbers uh and departments that
residents come into. So I know our

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medical team has looked at that. We've
increased the areas where they'll be

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coming in and so we continue to support
them and to date I've only had very

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positive feedback uh about the students
coming in. I've met a few of the

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residents on the floors who uh at least
to my face are very very positive about

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their experience at Headwaters and I
give signs of because I always ask them

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will you come back and work here and uh
I've always heard yes absolutely it's a

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wonderful community hospital
thank you um it's um uh the latter is

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very important I think to the
development of um of the community in

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the hospital uh having students and
being a part of the teaching process

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This is something that I've had a lot of
experience with and I think it brings um

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brings your hospital's u service
function up to a a higher level. So

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congratulations on that and I encourage
you to uh continue to pursue it. I

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realize that you're just a partner with
the community hub but I thought we

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haven't heard you heard much about this
and I think it's a bit of a gray area in

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in my mind. So maybe we'll get somebody
from there to talk to us about it

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sometime in the future. Thank you.
>> Any other questions?

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I I will go ahead.
>> Yeah, I I I'm not going to ask any

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questions this year, but I I just wanted
to say I think it was a great report and

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and congratulations on the work you're
doing. You you know, I have a a

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long-standing concern about the amount
of money you're going to have to raise

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over the future from local sources and
I'm concerned about when you will appear

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before a county council probably asking
for money, but we'll we'll leave that

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subject alone for today. Thank Thank you
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» Thank you, Deputy Mayor. next and you'll
hear from us next year at council.

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» Thank you very much for the report. I
look forward um each year when you come.

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Uh I guess the bottom line for me it is
uh physician recruitment. Hey the I mean

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you're you're developing new facilities
and you're raising money and you're

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seeing more people and people are people
are clearly moving into the area which

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we already knew but they're they're
having babies now that they're here. I

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mean all these things are positive but
that is uh that is a very low bar if um

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we want if a good day is 2 and 1/2 hours
to see a doctor in in the in the ED. Um

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but I appreciate that with respect to
the province who controls health not the

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municipal government has given you a bar
and you are below it you know that is

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that is terrific but but as uh as just
Canadians in general physician

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recruitment is what we really need to
do. So, I was wondering how is that

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going on for you?
>> Yes, thank you very much for the

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question, Councelor Davey. It's it's um
uh I would say probably one of our uh

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biggest current challenges position
recruitment uh and retention for uh for

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a few reasons with headwaters. Uh so,
but it is something that we are very

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focused on. Uh I'll speak to uh
certainly one of the gaps that we

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currently have and we have been
recruiting for this for over a couple

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years now. So our one ear nose and
throat surgeon uh has essentially

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retired uh does not do surgeries anymore
or call and uh it's been over two years

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we've been desperately trying to find a
new ENT. That was the dip in our uh

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surgical volumes if you notice them on
the year-over-year trending uh because

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we have not been able to do any
tonslectomies here for the last couple

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years. So uh it is a very competitive
market. The number of uh graduates

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certainly in some of the specialty areas
is low uh lower than I think what is

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needed uh in the province. I think there
is an opportunity certainly for the

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ministries to come together and that's a
whole other conversation we could have

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about uh the ministries the province
really working together and planning

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ahead in regard to uh where is the
population growth geriatrics uh younger

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younger families babies and what types
of specialties do we need uh to serve

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the province but it's one that uh
unfortunately we have not been

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successful in we are uh I'm going to use
the term wooing uh a newer um ENT grad

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from out of province. So we we go to
great lengths. We look obviously beyond

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our province. We look you know across
North America to be honest even I should

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say even in Europe we've got lots of
different kind of tentacles reaching out

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trying to look at how we can recruit
positions. So we're very busy in that

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area but it is position recruitment
overall is challenging. I'm going to

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speak to just another area and it is our
ED. Um and again some of the factors are

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out of the control of our hospital. Um
some of the outside factors that impact

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us are due to the physician services
agreement which is negotiated by the

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Ontario medical associ association the
OM and the ministry of health directly

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and just to give you an example and I
think it's just important for kind of

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education and for council to be aware of
it's something I've spoken to Sylvia

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about and our board and myself and other
hospitals speak about this often. It's,

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you know, we're a mediumsized community
hospital surrounded by larger centers.

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So, we've got South Lake to the east,
we've got William Oller, Trillium,

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Halton Healthcare to the south, we've
got G to the west, and to the north to

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the north of Stevenson. So, similar uh
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Hospital. But, um there are the new
agreement has high volume incentives for

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the larger ED departments. Uh so the
more patients they see uh which is a

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pure incentive for physicians to see
physician or patients faster and to see

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a greater number there's a volume
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Uh then at the same time the province um
really incentivized small and rural

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emergency departments that were really
struggling with uh being able to recruit

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physicians. You've probably heard a
number of them had ED closures uh which

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is not good for those communities. So
there's uh large incentives for

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physicians, ED physicians to go work in
the small rural areas. So unfortunately,

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what's in the middle are medium-sized
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competing with, in our case, the larger
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shifts because they have volume
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significant greater amount of money. At
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emergency department alternate funding
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amount that our physicians make because
we don't have the high volumes. Um, and

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but we don't have those incentives that
the other hospitals have. So to come and

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pick up a shift in our ED is becoming
less and less appealing. So again, we

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have structured our funding, the
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funding agreement is with them directly.
The funding flows to them. they've

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structured it to try to incentivize uh
but I know that it's becoming harder and

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harder each day as we compete with these
other centers that have different

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incentives. So, it's something that the
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advocate to the ministry to the OMA
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OMA and then as a hospital we are
continually speaking with our physicians

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also looking at how can we best support
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examples I shared earlier was that um we
you know we've supplied three physician

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assistants now so around the clock in RD
to again help them with their workflow

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take off some of the administrative
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patients faster. So it's a great
question. Uh there are some challenges

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with physician recruitment. Uh, you
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where, you know, within an hour of the
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um, which is a blessing and a bit of a
curse. There are less and less

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physicians that want to make the 1 hour
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» Well, yeah, cuz it's an hour and a half
now, right? That's that's the problem.

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» And as you know, our real estate is is I
mean, it's beautiful up here, right? It

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is beautiful up here, but that makes the
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cheap to live up here,
>> right? All right. Thank you very much

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for that answer.
>> Thank you. And if there's anything we

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can do um to advocate on your behalf, I
think that let us know and let let

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county council know as well. uh because
it's sort of unfortunate that you fall

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in the middle of two sizes of hospital
that that get uh uh dare I say

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preferential uh treatment or at least uh
uh they they have incentives that we we

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don't have because we fall in the
middle. I have one uh one question for

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you and it's the one I ask every every
time and that is what is the proportion

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of uh of Duffren uh to uh to peel uh
patients. Is it still running around

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25%? Has it changed in the last year?
>> I I think it's uh great question. Thank

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you, mayor, for that. It's I think
closer to 7030, maybe even tipping the

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30 plus percentage now.
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» that come to us from PEL and you know,
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» Okay.
>> More and more are coming north.

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» That's that's very interesting.
>> Any uh any further questions or comments

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by council?
Well, Kim and Francis, thank you very

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much for your presentation. Oh. Uh,
Fred, no, I just Oh, you're waving.

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» Thank you very much for your
presentation and, uh, we've learned a

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lot from it and from, uh, the, uh, uh,
questions and answers that we've, we've

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had today and we wish you the best of
luck. Uh, I gather there is a new

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campaign launch on the horizon. I've
heard a little bit about it and I wish

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you the best of luck in in that exercise
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» Thank you very much, Mayor and Council.
Thank you for having us and I hope you

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enjoy the rest of rest of the summer.
>> Thanks Kim Francis. Nice to see you.

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» Byebye.
>> Thank you. The uh next items on the

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agenda, I think we should defer to their
um uh times uh namely the noise

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exemption bylaw applications at 10:00
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a.m. And with the indulgence of council,
I think we should proceed to uh uh the

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the next items on the agenda after that.
Um and then regroup at 10. Are we okay

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with that?
>> Okay. So, the next uh the next item on

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the agenda is councelor Cape's uh uh
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community center and I'll turn it over
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» Thank you, mayor. Uh so, I know you've
read the report

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and uh I know you're as excited as I am
to see this come to Mono. Um even people

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that I have talked to have still
continue to say they want something like

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this and so serendipitously we have been
um connected to a couple who wish to

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build this.
So I I don't need to add any more than

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what's there. We know that there's more
to do. Uh it has to come back it has to

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come to council through planning. So,
that's being worked out as we speak. I

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should let you know they have um
approval to build the roadway in. Uh is

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everybody familiar where this spot is?
>> Roughly. Yes.

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» Where is it?
>> Yeah. Describe it just for the benefit

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of anyone. Highway 89
before you there there's a side road

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before the roadway into well it's the
Mono Malmer town line before you get

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there where Mrs. Mitchell's is. So this
would be up the hill and behind that

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full throttle.
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» And the the the entrance will be off the
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that's where the parking will be. And as
far as I understand, of course, all of

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the engineering has to be worked out, is
it will be built into the side of the uh

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hill.
>> So, it looks like it's in MMO, but it's

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in Mono because the ino
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Highway 89 there.
>> Absolutely. Absolutely. And uh as I say,

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there there are planning
things that need to be worked out.

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they've spoken to the NVCA
and uh there's a lot of earth works that

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need to be done and as long as they're
compliant with uh NVC requirements and

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environmental studies and anything they
have to do that's all to be done. Um

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they also have to get um

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all of the right approvals from our
table from our planning and there's been

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preliminary
they've asked for guidance. I know that

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and there will be a zoning change
requirement because they own that house

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that's there now. It's um a log house
>> so they own that whole property. It's

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it's more than what you can just see cuz
it goes up as well.

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» Yeah.
>> So, just before I recognize Fred, to to

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be clear, what they are seeking is a
letter of support from us in pursuit of

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a provincial grant. Is that an accurate
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» No, they're they're they're looking for
support from us. Just this as I attached

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a general letter saying we we support
the concept.

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» Mhm. Notwithstanding there's a whole lot
of work that needs to be done to make it

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work. Uh and so it's a feasibility in
that sense but it's what what is

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required to make it really viable and
make it happen. And so that means that

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the more they can get support
the more they can go out and seek

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funders.
>> Fred.

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» Yeah. I I want to ask a question which
maybe is going to sound a little

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negative, Elaine. I I think it's a
fantastic idea and I'm all for it, but I

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just understand it. When this complex is
built, it's privately owned. It's not

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it's not a public facility. They will be
charging fees for entrance. Will they be

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will they be a profit or nonprofit
organization? And just to finish the

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question, if they're going to build a
community center and it's privately

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owned
>> and it's not a community,

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» are they going to have it sort of as a
nonprofit instead of registered as a

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charity so that they can accept
donations and issue charitable receipts?

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I I know that sounds a bit negative, but
I just want to understand that this is a

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total private facility with fees being
charged with or without profit being

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made. Right.
>> Exactly. So, it's an owner built and

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operated facility. And of course,
they're looking for partnerships. And

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so, all of the details behind that still
need to be worked out in terms of when

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they
get the shovels in the ground and they

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start to build it. There's other
opportunities for them to partner with

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community to do community things there.
They they are doing this for community.

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It's a It's a multis-port
rec and community center.

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» I understand.
>> So, there will be all kinds of

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opportunities and we just don't have the
details for that yet.

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» If I could just follow
>> just one more and then I'll turn to

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other counselors.
>> I understand that, but it I just I

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wanted to ask my question because it it
influences my mind as to whether or not

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we should put public money into
something like this.

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» They're not asking for public money. I
know they're not, but but looking for

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partners down the road. And just so that
I know down the road the issue, it's

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it's a private enterprise.
>> Yep.

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» Melinda,
>> thank you very much, mayor. Thank you,

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Elaine, for for continuing to uh
champion this. I really think that this

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would be a large mistake for Mono to get
in bed with another private entity,

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whether it turns out to be nonprofit or
not. It is a it is a business. There's

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no difference from this and the and the
new person who came along and renovated

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uh a place that had a barn and is now
has an event center in their barn and

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and um it happens to be near my house.
Um and and so this is something that

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yes, it's community and yes, I don't
mean to I don't mean to stomp on people

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who want to go forward with things, but
it is it's not a community center unless

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it is is a municipal thing. And if we
and if we continue allow them to say a

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community center, then I think what's
down the road is, oh, but it's always

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been a community center and we can't
afford the new heat pumps. Why? Why

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can't you? And and I just I I just think
and then the concept looks terrific, but

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I don't see there's not even enough
parking. If you have people playing

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baseball, soccer, and pool at the same
time, where the heck are they going to

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park? And where's the actual community
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space within the little design? It's
it's lovely concept, but um we already

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have two fantastic community centers in
our town. Why would we support and we

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also get flack back from, you know,
should we really have these? Why would

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we get into a relationship with a with a
private entity? And I and I think we we

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got what's the expression? It's probably
rude. bitten bitten by the having put in

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our official plan some other entities in
past years that we really wanted to

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support. But as time goes on and things
change, perhaps you perhaps we want to

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change and yet we're then um hog tied.
That's also a rude expression, isn't it?

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Um by by our our decisions of of mixing
municipal with private corporation. So,

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» so at this point just to you know good
to put that forward. We are not mixing

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anything. We are giving them a letter of
support that says we support this

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concept so that they can go and get
funding. It's not that we're giving them

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funding, but we're not closing the door
because at some point in the future, we

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may want to sign along with them for
those grants again so that it can be

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built for the community to use. There's
a huge gap in that northern quadrant.

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And it's not only benefits Mono, it will
benefit people in Shelurn, it will

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benefit people in Meen, it will benefit
people in Malmer. and I intend to go and

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present to those councils as well. So,
so it's not that it's not a community

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center. It is a multi-port
facility and you can see as you said the

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dominant space is for sport. There's an
indoor pool and there's indoor

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basketball courts that can be used for
other things like pickle ball, tennis

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and etc. And there is the whole upper
floor which is soccer. And as you got

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the sense from their letter, um, Richard
is a professional soccer player and they

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want to bring indoor soccer. They have
been running a soccer uh, business for a

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a while. And so it it is all of those
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» Yeah. So, can I follow up on that?
>> Yes. Briefly, and then we've got to move

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on. And that and that brings me to
another point about why you don't

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particularly want to get into this one
because this is clearly a a passion of

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somebody who makes money in the
business. So it's not a it's not a for

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all of the community and so on. and and
right down the road the the Duffren um

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recreation complex that we already have
a part in that is precarious at the

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moment because the way that different
municipalities are behaving and wanting

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and so on. I I think that we should
learn from our lessons and not go into

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something like that. So, I I don't I I
think if somebody wants to go ahead to

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00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:10,240
bring it as a zoning change, then that's
a council decision to move it on to our

406
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:15,200
zoning um committee and so on and and
and that we should have a space in. But

407
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:22,720
to put our stamp of approval on some
private person who who ha is I I think

408
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:26,720
is uh is is not cricket. Okay.
>> Um Elaine, if I can ask a question. How

409
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,159
is this different than the facility that
we already have in Mono known as Axe?

410
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:34,559
Yeah.
>> Well, it's very different um in that

411
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:39,200
they don't have a pool and it's at the
south end and this is at the north end.

412
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:44,240
» I I'm not that's private. Yeah,
>> that's my point is

413
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:49,360
» but we supported them with the you know
>> some of the structure of the didn't we

414
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:52,159
support them rebuilding their uh dome
and

415
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:56,080
» I think we've been generally supportive
of of of their activities and they've

416
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,240
been very very successful in their
private and you're right and it's

417
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:04,880
similar in that in that regard
>> they're privately held and they uh they

418
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,760
do indeed reach out to people in Mono
who participate in the basketball

419
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,399
program right
>> as an example Right.

420
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:18,320
» So is is it it's similar to what we
already have?

421
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:23,359
» Yes. Exactly. And and also this is liken
it to a YMCA.

422
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:27,760
Like if we could get the Y to come and
build here, great. But we can't cuz

423
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:36,240
they're not building infrastructure
right now. And so the YMCA is owned and

424
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:42,159
operated by the YMCA and it's a fee for
service programming. this would be very

425
00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:47,040
similar. Now, obviously these detailed
questions about how it would run, how it

426
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:52,079
would operate, I can't speak to fully
because I'm not the proponent and it

427
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:56,800
would be incorrect for me to do that
without them here to speak for

428
00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:02,320
themselves. But this was an introduction
to an opportunity that we can take

429
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:08,560
advantage of to supply something that
our citizens are looking for.

430
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:15,599
And we're only asking right at this
point is consideration to sign the

431
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:22,560
letter that does not obligate us to give
them any financing at all or approve

432
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:29,680
this when it comes for zoning. Uh it
doesn't commit us to any of that. It's

433
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:32,880
just we are saying great idea. Go ahead.
>> And why do we need it in writing? I'm

434
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:35,200
sorry. May
>> Ralph, do you have any?

435
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,520
» Yes, it is. Thank you.
>> Thanks. Thanks for bringing us Ela and

436
00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:43,760
and thanks very much for championing the
uh concept of providing more

437
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,760
recreational experiences for people in
Monal. Um I see this as a little

438
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,320
different from Axe in that it has a
pool. Um does Axe have an indoor soccer

439
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,359
field now?
>> Indoor. Yeah. Fields. That's their deal.

440
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,440
Pardon?
>> Yes, that's their deal. Indoor stuff.

441
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,200
» Well, mostly it was basketball. It was
built on the on the premise of

442
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,800
basketball and training basketball. I
think they had tennies as well at one

443
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,400
point.
>> Okay. Um, so this is this is entirely

444
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:16,960
private and it will be structured that
way. Um, if we had a um some business

445
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:21,359
that wanted to come into Mono and create
20 new jobs and that would be productive

446
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:26,560
for Mono, we'd have no hesitation in
supporting them. I have no hesitation

447
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:31,760
supporting a private um um u business or
organization and in and in in in saying

448
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:36,880
yes, it's a good thing for us and we'll
go for it. Um I' I'd like a little more

449
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:42,880
information about them if you like. They
they um were based in Bmpton and it's an

450
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:47,520
organization that has similar names
throughout the uh North America. Do you

451
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,480
know anything about them?
>> You really don't know what you're

452
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:54,240
talking about? Well, I tried to uh to
research it last night and it seemed

453
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,160
that they have a name which is in
Bmpton. If you go if you look up their

454
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
name.
>> What you mean they have a name?

455
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,800
» A name? A name? This is a corporate name
if you like. Anyway, I should have more

456
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:06,720
information. I'll get it for you.
>> Right. So, I the information I have is

457
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:13,040
what was in the report.
>> It tells you who they are individually.

458
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:18,720
» He grew up playing soccer. He became a
pro. He traveled the world. His passion

459
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:23,520
is soccer. and he they run a soccer
club.

460
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:28,079
» She works for the Canadian Armed Forces.
Uh so right right

461
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:32,880
» she has a very uh senior role there and
you know they they have the skills and

462
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:38,160
the passion to make this happen.
>> So I got a Brford a Bmpton address when

463
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:45,599
I looked them up and I'll follow up on
that. The other comment is that the CS

464
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:51,599
uh RIF grant is not available to private
organizations. is only available to um

465
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:55,680
uh NOS's uh municipalities or indigenous
organizations. So I'm not sure why they

466
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,440
would put this in here that they're
>> No, they didn't put that in there. I

467
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,520
did.
>> Okay. Well, I think it's uh that's

468
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,000
grants are not available from that
organization for this institution. Well,

469
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:14,160
um Kim knows more about that than
anybody, but there is they did find some

470
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:21,359
granting uh fund grants that were open
to forprofit organizations.

471
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:29,359
So, we can strike that out if you want,
but mainly we're looking for support

472
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:35,280
just to say we support the idea. It's
all up to them as the proponents to make

473
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:41,599
it happen to do all the planning as I
said and get all the everything you know

474
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:47,680
uh according to
planning rules and regulations and

475
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,599
property zoning and all that stuff.
>> If I can follow up. Yeah.

476
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:55,920
» Yeah. I have no problem with uh saying
that we would like to see this in the

477
00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:00,800
muna. We think if it's viable they
should go ahead. Um, I would not like to

478
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:05,280
see it morph into something like, "Hey,
we're in deep trouble here. Can

479
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:12,160
municipality help them bail us out?"
>> Well, um, I'd like to quote from the the

480
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:17,440
proposed draft letter. Um, it it says,
"Council is supportive in principle of

481
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:22,720
the proposed multisport community
center." Uh I have some question about

482
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:28,400
the use of the term community center
because it does confuse people between

483
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:34,160
our community centers and and a
privately held community center. Uh the

484
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:39,040
uh wording goes on this support does not
constitute imply uh or confirm any

485
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:44,240
financial contribution, funding
commitment, grant, loan or other

486
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:49,520
monetary support from the town of Mono.
Uh it further states this letter does

487
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:54,000
not supersede wave, replace or
predetermine any approvals,

488
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,920
requirements, processes, conditions or
obligations. Sounds like it's been

489
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:05,040
written by a lawyer. Uh or obligations
under the planning act. So it's it is

490
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:10,640
I mean I think we are well protected by
a wording that uh says that we are not

491
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,960
obliged to fund and we are not obliged
to approve from the standpoint of

492
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,079
planning.
>> Right.

493
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:22,720
So then that brings me to what what what
are we doing? Is it really the council's

494
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:28,000
position when somebody and you're right
that we would support but at this stage

495
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:32,320
of the game when somebody comes to and
wants to open up a car dealership or

496
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:36,720
they don't come to us first and ask for
something in writing they get everything

497
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:41,359
all their ducks in a row and then
whereas I I feel like there is and when

498
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:46,000
and when you say we and so on I'm I'm
I'm getting them the the impression that

499
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:51,440
you have been very passionate about this
and that you might not be as objective

500
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:54,960
about the this as as I would like a
counselor to be in your position.

501
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,000
» Yes, Fred.
>> So, I just I just don't know why we need

502
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:03,520
why we need it.
>> I just if I could sort of respond to

503
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:07,760
councelor Davey, I I agree. I I not not
with you. I I think there's no problem

504
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:10,720
with us as a council saying, "Hey,
here's a letter of support. We think

505
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:14,400
it's a great idea and go ahead." I don't
have a problem with that. And as the

506
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:18,560
mayor just read out, there's all kinds
of conditions in this letter that says

507
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,359
don't come after us for money or
anything else. But I'm I'm quite willing

508
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:29,280
to support the idea of them doing this.
>> Just to clarify, so letters of support

509
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:34,480
are like
perhaps endorsements for councils

510
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:38,640
running people running for council.
They're endorsements. They make no

511
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:43,040
commitment beyond that. They might not
even vote for you, but they're saying,

512
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:49,520
"Oh, yes. I'll I'll I'll endorse this
person to run." because they are looking

513
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:55,520
for letters of support in all different
places so that they can say to private

514
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:00,400
funders,
I have all of these letters of support

515
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:06,720
for
the the desire to see this in the

516
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:09,839
community and therefore will you give us
money?

517
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:14,560
That's what's it's all about. It's
building that business case and building

518
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:20,079
the funding. Uh
>> if if I can make one one statement and

519
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:25,200
that is this is not dissimilar to uh the
town being approached by somebody who

520
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:31,119
wants to uh uh build something
commercial

521
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:37,200
uh and uh uh and and let's say it's a um
a widget factory. Okay. And our response

522
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:43,839
would be we'd love to see you do that
but you have to uh go through a planning

523
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:48,319
process. don't look to us for subsidies.
>> Yes.

524
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:52,640
» Um and uh and and good luck. Uh but you
know, and that happens all the time in

525
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,040
municipalities and and people are
encouraged either uh privately or

526
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:02,640
through through a council discussion
such as this uh subject to the

527
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:08,400
conditions that they apply uh you know
through the planning process. and that

528
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:13,119
uh at any point in the future the answer
um to any request for money could very

529
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,119
easily be no and you knew that going
into it.

530
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,200
You're
>> right. Exactly.

531
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:25,920
You're right. Except that it's not a
widget factory. It is presented as a

532
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:29,599
» Do you know what I mean? Like it like
you're Yes, but it but it is

533
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:33,839
» it's better than a widget factory.
>> It is because it it provides something

534
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,040
to the community. something that the
community has been asking for.

535
00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:40,240
» And so
>> I don't think the letter I'm all in

536
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,480
support of the letter. I wish it didn't
use the word community center in the

537
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,880
letter.
>> But that but but we don't we can we can

538
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,839
take well and you're all quick to take
that out and take out the grant and

539
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:56,640
everything. It's actually then it then
then it is we're just we we support

540
00:43:52,720 --> 00:44:00,960
business in in mono in general in which
of course we do. In which case, why does

541
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:07,680
this why do they need a specific why
>> as I explained they need as many letters

542
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:12,880
of support as they can unlike
just like endorsements

543
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:18,319
so that when they go
to funders not I'm not just that

544
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:20,640
» no endorsements are legislated this is
just an idea

545
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,760
» it's a letter of encouragement
>> so that you know people will say okay so

546
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:30,880
you've you've gone to others you've
asked them for your you Do they support

547
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:36,960
this idea? And yes, they do. It just
demonstrates that people have a desire

548
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:39,040
to see this.
>> Okay.

549
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:44,240
» Call the question.
>> Call the question. Okay. Uh I'm going to

550
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:48,000
call the question. Right.
>> Uh I'm not sure it's been moved or

551
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,079
seconded. Jed, your
>> No, no, they did it right when she

552
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:53,520
presented it.
>> No, no, I haven't read the motion yet.

553
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,640
» Believe it or not, I haven't read the
motion. Oh, then that was before the

554
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,079
meeting that you said I will I will
first it and you will second it right

555
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,400
now.
>> No, but that's for something else too.

556
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,560
» That's that's for the other thing. We
were only talking about the motor

557
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,760
scooter thing.
>> Uh I have a motion that we receive the

558
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:15,280
Mono Mono Multisport Community Center
report from councelor Capes dated August

559
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:20,560
17th, 2026. and that the mayor send a
letter of support on behalf of council

560
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:25,520
to Rich Richard Edwards and Christa Gail
Clark Edwards in substantially the same

561
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,480
form as the draft letter of support
included in the report.

562
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,160
» Can I move an amendment a friendly
amendment? I think can we take

563
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,440
» Well, let's see if it's friendly.
>> Okay. Can we take the word community out

564
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
of that motion?
>> Yeah. Sports center.

565
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,280
» Yes.
>> Acceptable with that? Okay. So, we're

566
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:48,319
removing the uh term community for I
think reasons stated uh uh previously.

567
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Um
okay. So, um

568
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,560
» so move.
>> It's so move. Okay. And I will so second

569
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,040
or Fred, you want to second?
>> I'll second.

570
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:02,160
» Okay. You'll second.
>> Uh those in favor?

571
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:07,200
» Any opposed?
And motion carries.

572
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:11,599
» Uh thank you very much.
There are a lot of people out there who

573
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:17,839
are going to be very happy and I know a
lot of them.

574
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:22,119
» Okay. Anyways, let's let's not
go into territori.

575
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:29,920
» Anyways,
uh I am still going to I see we have uh

576
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,800
some people in the gallery. Are you here
on the uh uh the noise bylaw?

577
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:37,359
» Yes.
>> Okay. Um, I'm going to if if I if I can

578
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:42,240
ask for your indulgence, we'll address
it at 10:00 because it's on the agenda

579
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:48,640
as an item for 10:00. So, we'll proceed
with uh other items on the uh on the

580
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:52,880
agenda. The first item is a a temporary
borrowing bylaw. This is a routine

581
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:58,640
matter. And I have a motion that council
receives the temporary borrowing bylaw

582
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:02,240
report dated August 17th, 2026. and that
we introduce and give the necessary

583
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:06,319
readings to a bylaw to authorize the
temporary borrowing of funds that be

584
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,200
signed by the mayor and clerk sealed and
engrossed in the bylaw book. Uh moved by

585
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:14,960
deputy mayor uh Nicks, seconded by
councelor Magdalo. Any discussion or

586
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,280
questions for less?
>> Yeah, I have one question.

587
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,640
» How how often do we use this? Do do we
borrow money temporarily? I don't think

588
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,800
we do. Do do we very often?
>> Thank Thank you, Deputy Mayor. Uh I was

589
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:32,079
actually anticipating that question.
Maybe not from you, but uh well, not

590
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:37,119
that recent, but it it's fairly recent
during co time when council deferred the

591
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:42,000
tax payments. I had to I had to kind of
dip into that, but it's all it has been

592
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:46,400
now taxes have been collected. It's all
paid up, but we have had to use it

593
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:49,280
» on occasion that in that moment was an
emergency.

594
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,599
» So, it's a sort of a form of bridge
financing, right?

595
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,720
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh I'll call the question. Any

596
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,319
opposed? Do you want to move and second?
>> Oh, move her and second.

597
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:05,920
» We did. We did. Sorry.
>> Okay. So, any opposed to the motion?

598
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:12,960
» Seeing none, the motion passes.
>> Uh, next item is the report to council

599
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:18,560
on the 2026 2027 Island Lake um, uh,
drinking water inspection report. And uh

600
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:23,680
I have a motion that the council for the
town of Mono receive the 2026 2027

601
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:28,400
island lake drinking water system
inspection report that and that the town

602
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:34,079
continues its commitment to transparency
to make these reports publicly available

603
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:39,200
on the town's website and at the town
and at town hall ensuring residents have

604
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,720
ongoing access to information regarding
the safety and reliability of the

605
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:48,720
drinking water systems. Do I have a
mover for that? Councelor Magdalo moves

606
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:52,319
councelor Cape seconds uh discussion or
questions for Matt uh Ralph and then

607
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:59,440
Fred.
>> Um Matt um could you just explain to us

608
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:04,079
what secondary disinfection residual is
and um why that's been a problem and

609
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:09,920
what's been done about it.
>> Thanks Council M. Um, so we're required,

610
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,920
the operating authority is required to
take samples in the distribution system

611
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:18,160
to ensure that the residual of the
chlorine is adequate throughout the

612
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:24,640
system. Unfortunately, this was more of
an administrative miss. Um, I've talked

613
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:30,640
to the uh town um of Orangeville about
this and they've since purchased some

614
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:36,880
additional software to help remind
operators to take these samples. Um like

615
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:40,800
I said it's a it's more or less a human
error on on that behalf, but there's

616
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,160
lots of redundancies in place for
chlorine residual. So you have the

617
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:48,640
pre-cont
um analyzers and you have the postc

618
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,960
contact analyzers. This is just an
additional test for the system to ensure

619
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:57,760
that that chlorine is going through the
system at a level that's acceptable to

620
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:01,839
the ministry. So a a testing is done
somewhere downstream from where the

621
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:06,400
chlorine is insert is put in
>> and it it appeared to me that that

622
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:09,599
testing revealed that chlorine was
inadequate there.

623
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,880
» No, it's just that it wasn't sampled.
>> Wasn't sampled. Okay. So

624
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,079
» So it's a sample that's collected at a
sample station throughout the

625
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:19,839
distribution system. They collects it.
They sent to the lab to verify that. And

626
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:24,000
what's the purpose of doing this
secondary uh uh chlorine

627
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:28,319
» extra layers of to ensure that that
chlorine that's injected into the system

628
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:32,720
that the analyzer should it fail or
should an analyzer fail in the in the

629
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:37,040
pump house um that it's being collected
or if it's there's stagnant sections of

630
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,640
water in the system. Um but typically
that this isn't normally a problem. It's

631
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,160
just an unfortunate
>> So the concern is that the chlorine

632
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,319
remain in the in the system until it
comes out my drinking tap, right?

633
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,680
» Yes.
>> Okay. And um so it sounded like they

634
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:55,359
were adding additional pieces of
equipment to deal with this. Is it a

635
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,359
monitoring equipment?
>> Software. It's just literally a

636
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,800
reminder. And you know operators, it's
not just a simple day-to-day thing. If

637
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,839
everything ran perfectly and all the
machines ran perfectly and the equipment

638
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,359
was fine, but a lot of the time they get
dragged around and there's they're

639
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:15,280
attending to issues uh at any time of
the day. And it's not an excuse, but

640
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,920
unfortunately it leads to uh a mess or a
slight delay.

641
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:23,200
» Okay. Well, so just just say
congratulations on the report. It's a

642
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:28,079
very important subject for our our town
and for all of our residents who depend

643
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,920
upon this drinking water and I think the
uh management of this has been really

644
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,839
excellent by your yourself and your
staff.

645
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:39,760
» Thank you Fred and then Melinda. Yeah, I
was going to ask a question on the same

646
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,960
thing because it's a a non-compliance
and you know, every year when we read

647
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,800
some of these drinking water reports, we
have the these non-compliance issues

648
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:50,720
which raises in my mind the question of
whether we're dealing with the right

649
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,480
operators for our water system. However,
having said that, and I know the

650
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:59,359
public's listening, I I I I will have to
say that these non-compliance issues

651
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,960
that keep occurring in our drinking
water reports are are usually just small

652
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:05,599
administrative or paperwork issues.
They're not

653
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,240
» they're not serious non-compliance
issues. The water is still safe. And in

654
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:15,359
this particular case, what surprised me,
Matt, was that in last year's report,

655
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,280
this was not a non-compliance issue. So,
how come how

656
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:26,400
I I guess I wondered why wasn't it
caught before? And how many years have

657
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:29,400
we gone without this secondary u um
sampling?

658
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:36,079
» Thanks, Stephanie Mary. Nick with you.
Uh we haven't had we there's been times

659
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,319
in the past that this has been an issue
where it's been missed and it's been

660
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:45,280
reported. Um I think last year the year
before we had 100% on the inspection

661
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:50,400
report. So um it's like you said it's
it's when you're we have humans involved

662
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:54,160
even computers involved there's still uh
issues with that. So um it

663
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:59,839
» was caught in the past why wasn't it
fixed? Why why haven't we solved the

664
00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:02,960
problem? didn't happen this time.
>> I would say that there's different

665
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:05,920
operators being trained all the time and
hired and and whatnot. And like I said,

666
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:11,359
you're they're being dragged to a
different situation at in in Mono or

667
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:15,760
Orangeville and it may be a slight delay
in sampling. Um I believe there was one

668
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:20,319
instance in the past where it got
misplaced. The sample was taken but it

669
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:25,440
was misplaced. There's just like I said,
humans and in and machines there's

670
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:29,200
there's always the potential for some
miss. If I could just finish, there are

671
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,880
other operators we could hire and I
don't know what their records are in the

672
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:37,119
water systems that they run. I guess
what I'd like to know, do they also have

673
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:41,839
human errors all the time or would they
be any better than our current operator?

674
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:46,240
I would recommend you to look at the
annual and summary reports that are

675
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:51,280
submit and the ministry reports that get
posted to uh whether it's new to KUMSA

676
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:56,160
or other surrounding municipalities to
review what their their uh status is as

677
00:53:53,839 --> 00:53:59,599
far as uh inspection compliance.
>> Thank you, Mayor Melinda.

678
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,160
» Thank you very much. Thanks for the
report. And it's and it's good. I mean,

679
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:09,200
you know, it's it's 93 or whatever, but
um wasn't I didn't I read in here that

680
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:14,319
the that the actual time was in December
between tw December 22nd and December 28

681
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:17,760
or whatever that the error was. So, this
was like when somebody was on holiday or

682
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,640
the person who was on holiday didn't
quite message to the person who was

683
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:23,760
covering for them exactly, oh, don't
forget to do the whatever. Right. So,

684
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,880
that's that's the human error there.
>> That's right. Yeah. There's some the

685
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,119
communication there. And when I was
speaking with management about it,

686
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:37,119
they've since purchased software as an
additional layer to for these reminders

687
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:41,359
and uh the communication transfer um
sometimes is there's lots of different

688
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:45,280
things going on, but Matt
>> um

689
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:51,280
» I just correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't
read that the chlorination didn't

690
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:53,920
happen. I read that the sample wasn't
taken.

691
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,480
» That's right. And I think that's a very
important distinction to make here.

692
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,440
» Y
>> is that the the important thing is that

693
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,880
the the chlorination occurs, right? So
yeah, like the chlorine leaving the

694
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:10,640
facility
>> is tested by a pre and a post sampler.

695
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,880
So it can't leave the well shuts down if
there's an issue with that chlorine that

696
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:18,800
chlorinated water leaving the contact
chamber, which is a a pipe underneath

697
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,559
the ground that says the chlorine has to
be in that water for a certain period of

698
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:29,839
time. and it's calculated based on the
flow going out to users. If it drops

699
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:34,319
below that level, the pump shuts down.
Everything shuts down. So, yeah, it's

700
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,680
it's just an additional check.
>> I think that's that's important for the

701
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,880
public to know is that we're not
disputing that the chlorination or

702
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,800
they're not disputing that the
chlorination didn't occur, only that it

703
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:49,599
wasn't sampled properly.
>> Yeah. Okay. So there's just a couple if

704
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:54,400
there's any other questions or not but
hey

705
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:59,599
» thank you I yes and and I noticed that
too Melinda the December 22nd to 28th

706
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:06,799
and when should that sample have been
taken within that time frame and it says

707
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:12,160
uh this is on page 13 there's a 48 hour
timing on this and then three and four

708
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:15,760
sample timing. What does that mean? It's
just the frequency of the of when

709
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,040
they're taking it throughout the week.
So they do four and then they they flip

710
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,480
to three so they don't they don't miss
it. Yeah. So it's just a

711
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,400
Yeah.
>> In case I get tested by the ministry.

712
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:33,040
» So
um I think report pages 11 and 13. Um

713
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:37,359
also the ministry speaks about chlorine
chlorine contact loops in both Kohl's

714
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:42,559
and Island Lake. And I spoke to council
about this earlier this year that the

715
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:46,240
ministry had set a a date of August 2027
to implement this contact loop. So I

716
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:51,440
just wanted to give council the heads up
that this will be part of the 2027

717
00:56:48,559 --> 00:57:00,319
budget and it's not cheap.
>> Um it's uh 200 plus,000 per system. So

718
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:04,240
Kohl's and Island Lake and uh the idea
is that that will be you know brought to

719
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:08,079
council and tendered in the spring. We
did submit a letter to the ministry

720
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:13,920
requesting exemption from the Kohl's
system because as council will recall uh

721
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,760
the EA has recommended that we remove
coals one and two from the system. So

722
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:22,559
we're hoping we don't have to do that
work and then completely abandon it. So

723
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:26,160
we're hoping we get a favorable response
from then. And then I just wanted one

724
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:31,839
quick thing with respect to the arsenic
on page report page 14. Uh we hope to

725
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:37,040
have the project file report submitted
uh published this week. So that will be

726
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,359
uh hopefully online uh as early as this
week.

727
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:44,960
» But the other thing we should assure our
taxpayers, whatever the cost of this new

728
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:48,799
loop is, it doesn't affect our taxes
>> comes from reserves. Water reserves.

729
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,640
» No, it comes from the water users.
>> Comes from the the reserves that have

730
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:55,839
been created by the water users.
>> Yeah.

731
00:57:54,319 --> 00:58:00,280
» Um
>> which we don't have that much. Right.

732
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
Well,

733
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:12,640
anyways, on that note, uh I'll call the
question. Uh any opposed to acceptance

734
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:18,079
of the report?
Okay. And that's uh carried.

735
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:22,559
Uh we are within 3 minutes of 10:00. Is
it council's wish that we go to the uh

736
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,920
uh 10:00 item?
>> Yes.

737
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:31,040
» Okay.
Good morning. Um, you're here in support

738
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:35,680
of a uh a request for an exemption to
the uh noise bylaw. If you'd like to

739
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,880
come forward and introduce yourselves
and uh we'll uh we'll consider the

740
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:44,000
request.
>> Are they for 10 or 10:15?

741
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:49,920
» I think it's one and the same.
>> Oh, pardon me. For 10:00. My apologies.

742
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:54,880
» Okay.
>> Yes. Mr. Boures.

743
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,400
» And
Mr. Mr. Borges, if you could just press

744
00:58:56,319 --> 00:59:03,040
the button on the uh and just restate
your name and give us your address.

745
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,520
» Joe Boures and my personal address.
>> Yes.

746
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:09,839
» 9562
Six Line, Georgetown, Ontario.

747
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:15,280
» Okay.
>> Thank you. Uh and Mr. Borges, you've

748
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:21,359
made an application for a u an exemption
to uh uh the uh enforcement of the noise

749
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:26,720
bylaw for your event. uh if you can just
tell us briefly a little bit um about it

750
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:32,559
and the reasons why council should grant
the request.

751
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:36,720
Okay. Um as for what they are, they've
it's pretty much it's the same as what's

752
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:42,960
been done there in the past other than
by different people. Um

753
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:51,599
I don't know, you know, you guys are
aware of what they are. So it's uh

754
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,599
exactly the same thing.

755
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,440
Okay.
>> Has he been here before?

756
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:02,799
» Have we Have we ever
>> No. No. This is my my first time. I

757
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,960
mean, I've been in Orangeville in the
past, but like 15 years ago,

758
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:10,400
» but you've you've run events in
Orangeville.

759
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:17,040
» You? Yeah. In the past, like been about
15 16 years now. Okay. I haven't been.

760
01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:23,119
» Okay. Um, members of council questions.
So, Elaine caught my eye first, followed

761
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:27,839
by Ralph, followed by Melinda.
>> Thank you for coming. And I I just want

762
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:34,079
to understand
because you do know that our bylaw says

763
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:37,520
sound or vibration is noise
>> and it's noise if it's likely to disturb

764
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,599
somebody.
>> Yes.

765
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:46,000
» And we've had lots of, you know,
situations that it's disturbed people.

766
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:52,000
And so I want to understand why you need
to go to 11:00 p.m. It gets dark at

767
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:58,079
8:00. Now
>> this we have kind of what it's like a

768
01:00:54,319 --> 01:01:02,720
finals. So we're it carries on a little
it won't be on until 11:00. Um I put

769
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:10,960
11:00
just as 11:00. Um the rodeo itself like

770
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:15,359
by 9 9:30 we'll be done. Um, I just put
11:00 as

771
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:19,599
» So, how do you do this in the dark?
>> Like, they have the lights. It's It's

772
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:22,640
still
>> um

773
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:27,760
» Okay. So, could we consider changing it
to 9:00?

774
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:33,520
» Sure.
>> It's very generous of you.

775
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:37,920
» And Ralph and then Hi, Linda.
>> Just just hi, thanks for coming. Uh,

776
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:43,599
just a note about the timing here. Um
this is a August the 25th and you're

777
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:47,520
asking for an event uh uh that uh
permission for noise for an event that's

778
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:55,359
in 4 days time.
>> Yes. Um I didn't we didn't have uh the

779
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:59,839
day or when everything got submitted was
I believe

780
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:07,040
you had was on a Monday and you guys had
your previous meeting on the Tuesday so

781
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:12,799
I couldn't get in on that one. Um
it was kind of a rush thing. Um we

782
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:18,319
didn't have a whole lot of time to um
like to do the 60 days.

783
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:21,440
» Is this a an application here because it
was cancelled somewhere else?

784
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:26,640
» No.
>> No, it's just a last minute thought.

785
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,640
» Uh yeah. Um
okay.

786
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:34,079
No problem.
>> Um thanks very much. Yeah. Thanks for

787
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:39,200
thanks for coming in person. It's very
helpful and um for for people to come as

788
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:42,720
opposed to just in writing. Um so I
appreciate that. Uh when you made a

789
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:47,119
comment that you were at the or in
Orangeville 15 or 16 years ago, was it

790
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:49,839
at this at this facility that is in Mono
or was it a

791
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,760
» No, no, it was No, it was there at the
fairgrounds. So, it was there at the

792
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,480
fairgrounds,
>> but there was no I mean, we didn't

793
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,359
require a noise bylaw or uh
>> Well, no, we actually had a noise bylaw

794
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,640
that said you couldn't make any noise
after 5:00 p.m. So, there was a noise

795
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:06,400
bylaw. And the the whole reason why we
redid it was because it wasn't being it

796
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:11,680
wasn't being respected or whatever.
>> Ours was at that time indoors

797
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:16,400
» cuz that was 200 from 2004, that old
bylaw. Anyway, it was here at this in in

798
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:18,960
this town that you were here before.
>> Yes. And

799
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,079
» and like I said, the ones that we did at
that time were held indoors.

800
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,000
» Indoors.
>> Yes.

801
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,240
» Right. But you had the windows open and
things make noise anyway. So, but but

802
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:32,319
what may I ask why you stopped going to
Orangeville?

803
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:39,200
» Like why the 15-year gap before between
>> Well, I've always uh I've held them

804
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:45,599
other other places. Uh too since co um
I've had health issues like I've uh had

805
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:50,400
four bypasses and stuff like that. So,
um I only really started back up last

806
01:03:48,799 --> 01:03:54,240
year and
>> Oh, I see. Oh, okay.

807
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:59,920
» So, and I did one in Orange, um
Cambridge. Um this year I held one in

808
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:03,920
Milton earlier in the year.
>> Okay.

809
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:06,480
» So, I'm like I'm not doing a whole lot.
I only do like one or two a year. That's

810
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,559
all I do.
>> So, and the reason to do them in

811
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:16,240
different locations is because it in it
that the community comes from different

812
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:21,599
places. It's the community um location
like the the grounds that you know that

813
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:29,760
a lot you know that we can have the
grounds to use this for what we do. Um

814
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:33,280
and um yeah basically location. Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you.

815
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:38,000
» Okay. Mr. Press, uh do you have an
agreement with the uh Orangeville

816
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:42,640
Fairboard? Do you have a a contract?
>> Yes. I don't have one with me, but

817
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,680
» are they requiring that you get a noise
exemption from us in order for the event

818
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,400
to proceed?
>> Yes.

819
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:54,640
» Okay. So, I think that should be clearly
on the record that uh uh that's their

820
01:04:51,440 --> 01:05:00,160
insistence. Um we we are not in a
position to say no to the event. All

821
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:04,480
we're considering here today is a
request to exempt you from provisions of

822
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,039
the noise bylaw.
>> Yes.

823
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:13,920
» So, we're not we're not shutting down
the event. It is like it's on their

824
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:20,640
» they require us to get one. Okay.
>> Uh so Elaine and then Fred.

825
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:26,640
» Thank you Marin. Notwithstanding that uh
we have

826
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:32,880
in other situations people provide us
with the OSPCA

827
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:38,160
letter of sanctioning the event. Do you
have such a letter from the OSPCA or

828
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:44,160
have you ever had to provide a letter
that sanctions your event for the the

829
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,920
treatment of the animals etc?
>> I'm not quite understanding the

830
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:52,880
question, but like I mean I got a letter
uh from the fairgrounds that I uploaded.

831
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:58,160
» No, not the fairgrounds, the animal
safety people, the OSPCA.

832
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:05,119
» Elaine, just to just to put things in
context. Yeah. Uh but but nothing hinges

833
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:10,480
on this because um that's not part of
the application. Yeah. Uh no

834
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:14,400
» OSPCA. I mean they'll never give you a
letter for any rodeo of any sort. So

835
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:18,000
that answers your question.
>> Okay. Thank you.

836
01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:22,240
» Thank you, Fred. I just want to
understand the mayor's question. You're

837
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:27,039
saying you have a contract and if you
don't get a noise exemption from us,

838
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,319
then you can't run the affair. or is
that is that the effect of your

839
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:33,319
contract?
>> Um,

840
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:39,839
I'm not sure for that question.
>> Well, your contract says you must get a

841
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,000
noise exemption from us because
>> you must apply for a noise exemption.

842
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,480
Yes.
>> To to follow up on what the mayor said,

843
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:49,039
we're only regulating noise.
>> Yeah.

844
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,760
» Not the activity. But I want to
understand something. If we

845
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,960
» Well, that's the we have to regulate
noise and say you don't get an

846
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,920
exemption, then it seems to me
indirectly we're regulating the

847
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,079
activity.
>> Well, you can run it without noise.

848
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:04,640
» What?
>> Or you can run it without noise?

849
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:08,000
» No. The contract says he must get the
exemption from us to run the affair. As

850
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,119
I understand what the
>> It's not I must get it. I must apply for

851
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,240
one.
>> Well, you must apply for one.

852
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,240
» I must apply for one. Okay.
>> Doesn't matter if you get it.

853
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:21,200
» Apply.
>> Yeah. We've had instances in the past

854
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:25,280
where that's not been very clear and it
sounds like you must get the exemption

855
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,480
or else the event can't occur.
>> Okay.

856
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:33,039
» And if all it says you must apply for
one, I'm hoping that they will will

857
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,039
honor the contract is signed.
>> Yeah.

858
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:42,520
» Well, we'll see.
>> Have to vote.

859
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:42,520
» We'll see. Um

860
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:50,400
» Okay.
Are members of council uh wishing to say

861
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:53,359
anything more um before we have a vote?
>> Yes.

862
01:07:51,200 --> 01:08:00,640
» Sorry, just a question. Has the
application fee been received?

863
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:04,400
» Uh yes, we have received the fee. Uh
councelor Capes,

864
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:09,680
» thank you.
>> Okay.

865
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:16,880
So, um I'll go first. I I just want to
indicate Mr. Borges that uh my position

866
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:22,400
uh is consistently that uh um a noise
exemption request is actually um a

867
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:27,040
request for a permit to make noise.
Okay. And uh I've got a I've got a

868
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:35,359
problem with that. And I think that
events can occur uh that do not um uh

869
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:38,560
intrude upon uh the neighborhood. Um, I
don't know if this is one of them, but I

870
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:43,520
think that it is it is possible that
things can occur outdoors at the event

871
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:48,880
center uh that do not need uh a noise
permit uh as I call it. Uh the other

872
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:54,880
concern I have is the uh the short
notice on this um one of the provisions

873
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:59,199
of applying for um an exemption or
permit uh is that the neighborhood be

874
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:03,839
circulated.
And I don't I I would rather suspect

875
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:09,120
that the neighborhood has not been
circulated with

876
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:13,120
» we've uh put it on the Mono Orangeville
Mono Community Center uh Facebook page.

877
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:17,600
Okay.
>> Um

878
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:21,839
been two weeks, I guess, or
>> I appreciate that. I I don't know that

879
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:26,000
that's what the uh what the bylaw um
intends, but uh thank you for for doing

880
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,560
that.
>> Any other comments from council?

881
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:35,839
Uh Elaine,
>> I just want to go back to the timing. Um

882
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:41,759
in our bylaw, it states certain noises
can't occur from 10 p.m. to 7:00 a.m.

883
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:47,600
And so 1000 p.m.
uh seems to be a number that's been

884
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:52,159
defined as uh
you can't make noise after 10 p.m. And I

885
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:53,359
know it says you can't make noise at
all.

886
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,360
» Mhm.
>> I agree with that. But um

887
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:03,040
» disturbing noise.
>> Yeah. All noise is disturbing to

888
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:06,159
somebody. Anyway, I just um don't know
if we can

889
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:10,719
» I mean, if we were holding concert there
or something, I could see that how

890
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:15,600
that's like extravagantly loud.
>> Our announcer at our shows like it's

891
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:20,400
just an announcer. It's
>> um even if we do play some music, it's

892
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:24,640
just interesting the people for that are
stand, you know, like in in between

893
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:29,360
people doing stuff there in the grand
stands. It's always down low enough that

894
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:33,440
I'm pretty sure it hardly ever leaves
those it won't leave the grounds.

895
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:37,840
» But as you said yourself, sorry, go
ahead.

896
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:43,120
» And um you know um I've been there and
seen it. Um like our announcer and like

897
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:48,480
say the speakers, we'll put them facing
the gravel pit, which works for us. It's

898
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:54,480
not going to be going towards the
residential areas or anything like that.

899
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:58,320
and uh the level of noise that's there,
it won't make it to anybody's backyard.

900
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:02,960
» Mhm. And and just to go back to
something you said earlier, you said

901
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,920
like the whole rodeo part is finished by
9:30. So

902
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:09,679
» yeah,
>> what happen there's no afterparty or

903
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,400
anything like that if that's what you're
asking?

904
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:16,000
» No. So it's just it's it's done then
people leave and you close up and take

905
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:20,800
your stuff out.
So

906
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:25,360
there's really no requirement for 11
p.m.

907
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,880
» No, I like I said, I use that number as
>> Okay.

908
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,000
» So
>> Okay. Thank you.

909
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:35,199
» So I have a a prepared motion. I'll read
and and of course council is welcome to

910
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:38,800
uh move any amendments to it. uh that we
approve the issuance of a noise

911
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:43,920
exemption permit pursuant to bylaw
2026-8

912
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:50,159
noise bylaw to uh Joe Boures to hold a
Portuguese-style uh rodeo uh on August

913
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:54,960
29th, 2026 at the Orangeville
Agricultural Society Fairgrounds and

914
01:11:52,800 --> 01:12:00,640
that the permit shall be uh conditional
to all terms uh detailed in the permit,

915
01:11:58,239 --> 01:12:07,199
including but not limited to number one,
use of ampl amplified sounds between the

916
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:12,960
hours of uh 12 and 2300.
Uh two, uh provide the town with a phone

917
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:17,280
number for uh the on-site event
organizer who will be responsible to

918
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:22,800
make any adjustments to sound levels as
directed by Mono's bylaw enforcement

919
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:30,640
officer. And uh finally, that the uh
$500 application fee be waved. Are there

920
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:37,679
any emotions to amend that, Fred? I'd
like to amend the uh clause saying that

921
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:43,040
until 11:00 p.m. I think 9:00 p.m. is
reasonable.

922
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:48,239
» And looking at all our in looking at all
the sort of restrictions in our bylaw,

923
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:53,280
if you can't make certain noises between
10 and 7 in the morning, 10:00 p.m. and

924
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:58,719
7 in the morning. So, but I was just
trying to be consistent as a delineated

925
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:02,480
noise for purposes of it past 10:00. No,
I know.

926
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:05,600
» So, I I subject to what the rest of
council says, I would amend it to 9:00

927
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:12,960
p.m., I guess.
>> Okay. Uh, do we have a a mover and a

928
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:16,239
seconder? And do we have consent to
>> friendly amendment not?

929
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:20,320
» We need a mover and a seconder first and
then I'll I'll start uh seeing whether

930
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:27,920
or not it's friendly or not. So,
councelor Capes moves seconded by

931
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:32,960
Deputy Mayor. Uh now obviously deputy
mayor's amendment is is consensual. Are

932
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:36,320
you in agreement with that?
>> I think it's 9 p.m.

933
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,159
» 9 p.m.
>> Okay.

934
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,199
» Can we have a little a little bit
discussion now that we seconded it

935
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,280
please? Yeah.
>> Um just just to

936
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:52,400
» looking at the schedule that that is
report that is attached to um our

937
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:57,280
clerk's report. I just the the the
surge in amount of Portuguese style

938
01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:03,280
rodeos we've been having in the town of
Mono is bananas. We've got we've got if

939
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:05,679
we grant you your or if you carry ahead
doesn't matter whether we grant it or

940
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:10,239
not. If you go ahead with yours on the
29th that's three weeks in a row there's

941
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:13,600
Portuguese
uh rodeos going on. Are you guys not

942
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:19,040
working together when you say it's the
final finals of your

943
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:22,000
» We work some Yeah, we individual and and
some of us and then we get together with

944
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,360
you know some of these are we're
involved with each other. Yes.

945
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:29,280
» Well, like if you're doing your finals,
what's the finals for what?

946
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,840
» Like isn't it a isn't it a contest?
Isn't there isn't there some sort of

947
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,400
contest to element?
>> It's a little bit of a contest. Yeah.

948
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:42,000
But it's like
each one kind of does their own uh on on

949
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,120
their own on on their own.
>> So it's really just a party or

950
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,679
entertainment. It's really just an
entertainment.

951
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,280
» It's an entertainment. Yeah. It could be
if you that's how you want to call it.

952
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:55,280
» But because the name the organizer names
are different that the three in a row

953
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:59,280
and there are three different people.
>> Yeah.

954
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,760
» That are responsible like Yeah. Yeah.
It's each one's individually. Yes.

955
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,440
» All right. Thanks for that
clarification.

956
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,960
Yeah, I this is a real difficult one for
me because I I agree with councelor

957
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:13,040
Davyy. I mean, every weekend we have
some event that causes some noise for

958
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,560
some number of hours. However, in this
case, given the lateness of the

959
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:20,960
application and the fact that he's
already got it organized, I'm prepared

960
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:24,800
to vote yes on the motion on the floor,
but I do so with this qualification that

961
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:31,440
if I'm still here after the next
election, I'm hoping we can introduce a

962
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:36,560
bylaw that prohibits Portuguese both
Portuguese rodeos in the town of Mono,

963
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:41,280
just as we did with the kite flying
thing. We passed a bylaw that prohibits

964
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:43,760
that. I I I know we're not supposed to
be talking about the activity you're

965
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:47,600
running. We're only supposed to be
talking about noise, but I have a

966
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:52,159
concern with Portuguese bull fighting
and I and so I will vote yes today, but

967
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,800
I am hoping to introduce a motion that
>> no no no campaigning now.

968
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:59,440
» Okay, I think he's over over the top
there.

969
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,679
I think
>> Elaine and then

970
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:10,320
» sir the the other amendment I would like
to make is we're not waving the fee

971
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:16,880
» because it's already paid.
>> If council approves the uh the motion as

972
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:21,760
presented wave the fee I will return the
fee to the organizer.

973
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:26,159
So I suppose the technically it's not
waving well it's waving but it's already

974
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:29,040
been paid so I'll just return it.
has fees,

975
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:33,199
» but I insisted that it be paid in
advance. Thanks for that clarification

976
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:36,719
that I I still would like to not wave
the fee. So, I can't vote for the motion

977
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,480
the way it is.
>> Well, that's not a friend. It's

978
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:44,719
» your It's your motion. Uh, councelor
Capes. So, the mover and seconder can

979
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,719
change their own motion any way they
wish.

980
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,040
» As the secondary, I don't agree with
that change.

981
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:58,000
» Okay. So, I'll call a I'll call a
separate vote on the waving of the fee

982
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:01,920
in advance of a motion the the overall
motion

983
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,360
» if we're agreeable to
>> if you can do that.

984
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:08,000
» Absolutely.
>> Well, the your worship this motion

985
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:12,880
includes the the line that the fees be
waved. So, it's unless

986
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:16,800
» unless either it's removed by the mover
and seconder or someone moves an

987
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,760
amending motion.
>> That's right. I would be calling for an

988
01:17:18,719 --> 01:17:21,440
amending motion
>> which would be called before this

989
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,480
motion.
>> Correct.

990
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,520
» Okay.
>> Correct. That would be my intention.

991
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:31,440
» Okay. How about I provide you with an
amending motion that says that

992
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:35,920
» No, I can't do that.
>> Sure. Technically, you could. Or Yes.

993
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:40,880
Yes.
>> I You need a second though.

994
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:45,040
» Well, she has to call first.
>> So, sorry, but I would like to call for

995
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,199
an amendment that we do not wave the
fee. Okay. That's what I move. That's my

996
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:53,360
motion.
>> You were just because it's starting to

997
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:59,760
get hard to follow. So, councelor Capes,
your motion is that we strike out from

998
01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:04,320
the main motion, the clause, and that we
wave the $500 application fee.

999
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,719
» Exactly what I meant to say. Thank you,
Fred.

1000
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,719
» And we vote on that first.
>> Do we have a seconder for that?

1001
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:15,360
» Yes. So that I can say something.
>> Okay. So, that move is seconded.

1002
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:19,679
Discussion. So the disc the discussion
is just a general thing not about you

1003
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:23,120
particularly but a general thing for the
public. We have spent an inordinate

1004
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:26,400
amount of time on this noise bylaw. We
really felt that we had something now

1005
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:30,480
that we've put it into practicality in
this this summer we have found that

1006
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:35,440
there are some shortcomings to it and
one of the big shortcomings is that we

1007
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:39,920
have set these fees. We've spent not
that we're getting paid for it but our

1008
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:44,640
staff is getting paid for this time. So
so we do need to collect fees. money is

1009
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:49,040
being spent in an effort to debate all
these things and and have people come

1010
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:55,199
and so on. it there is a cost to it and
so far we have I I believe my my memory

1011
01:18:52,480 --> 01:19:00,560
is that we've waved everybody and so you
you kind of you kind of have to stick

1012
01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:04,480
with what you're doing right I but I
think on principle the if we're going to

1013
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:08,880
have a bylaw and we're going to have
things rules then we shouldn't be waving

1014
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:12,560
fees I don't care how much money you're
in need of or anything if you're coming

1015
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,040
to me asking for something and you knew
that it there was a fee then you need to

1016
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:20,480
pay it
>> but um correct me if I'm wrong. You're

1017
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:23,120
the mover of the motion to wave the fee.
The seconder, you're the seconder to

1018
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:29,199
wave the fee.
>> I seconded a motion in effort to have

1019
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:34,960
some discussion. But what but what we're
wanting to do is strike waving the fee

1020
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:38,480
out of the motion. That's what this is.
So that there is a fee to be paid.

1021
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,880
» Okay.
>> Right.

1022
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:46,400
My only comment is yes, Councelor Davyy
is correct. Except the principle we've

1023
01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:51,120
followed is for people who've made the
application before our new by noise

1024
01:19:48,719 --> 01:19:54,640
bylaw was passed, we have consistently
waved the fee because they didn't know

1025
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,320
it when they made the application. So I
will be voting against this amendment.

1026
01:19:56,480 --> 01:20:02,640
» Okay. Any further discussion?
>> Yeah, you've taken the words right out

1027
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:06,320
of my mouth, Fred. Um that's the only
reason for waving the fee here is and

1028
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:08,080
that doesn't apply to this case,
>> Melinda.

1029
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:15,040
» Right.
>> Right. So the motion on the floor right

1030
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:20,080
now is that a fe a fee should be paid.
>> No, the office

1031
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:25,280
the opposite.
>> The the mo

1032
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:30,239
the motion that you have on the table is
that we're going to wave the fee

1033
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:36,480
» or return in the return it. motion that
you have put on is that that fee should

1034
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:41,040
not be waved and it should be paid that
and we have to and Fred said we have to

1035
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:45,199
vote on that new motion from Elaine that
I seconded. We have to vote on that

1036
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:49,840
first before we vote on yours because
yours says wave and we couldn't get the

1037
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:52,000
seconder to make the guy pay the fee.
That's like

1038
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:56,400
» okay,
>> Mr. Bes, thank you for your patience,

1039
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:01,040
» right?
>> You just got to do things proper.

1040
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:09,040
» Okay. So, to be clear, we have a motion
on the floor moved by uh Elaine,

1041
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:15,840
seconded by Melinda uh to uh uh to to
not wave the fee or to return the fee.

1042
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:19,199
So, that's what we're voting on first.
>> Your or needs a comma. I need to have

1043
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:22,800
that written. It's just to not return
the fee

1044
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:27,440
» is to strike that clause from the main
motion, which is effectively what you

1045
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:32,159
said. Fred gave it to us in perfect
words that I would have used as well.

1046
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:37,360
» Okay, Fred, do you have a a a better way
of expressing it than I did?

1047
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:44,000
» Uh, so the amending motion on the floor
is to strike out from the main motion

1048
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:50,159
the clause and that the $500 application
fee be waved. So if that carries, then

1049
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:56,480
the main motion will no longer include
the clause to wave the fee. Ergo, the

1050
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:59,760
town will not refund the fee.
If the amending motion passes.

1051
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:02,239
» Okay. If it passes,
>> right, that's right. You're

1052
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,120
understanding that. Okay. You want to
call the question on the amending?

1053
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:09,639
» I'm going to call the question. All
those in favor of the amendment,

1054
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:20,239
» those opposed.
And that motion is carried. And on the

1055
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:26,000
main motion, uh, minus the, um,
the, u$500 application fee be waved. So,

1056
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:30,000
and your worship also that the main
motion had been uh amended by the mover

1057
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:35,120
» to 9 p.m.
>> to read. Yeah. 9:00 p.m. or 2100.

1058
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:41,000
» Yeah. 2100. Okay. Let's be consistent.
We'll put 2100.

1059
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,000
Okay.

1060
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:48,159
So, all those in favor of the main
motion,

1061
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:52,320
those opposed to the main motion. And
that motion is carried.

1062
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:56,239
» Thank you. Did you follow what we were
all doing?

1063
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:59,440
» You got You've got your exemption. I got
my exemption and I'm paying $500.

1064
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:02,719
» But you didn't Yeah, you didn't get your
$500. Sorry.

1065
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:07,840
» But people
>> It's the fee. But people can still

1066
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:12,400
complain if if the fee if the terms of
the of the of the waving if the terms of

1067
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:18,000
the
>> uh I I read up on it and yeah if it was

1068
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:23,199
something that was planned pre
>> the bylaw being made

1069
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:27,360
» that you guys would accept uh would uh
not uh charge the fee

1070
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,239
» right not the case
>> and and to be and to be clear simply

1071
01:23:29,679 --> 01:23:34,400
because we
>> your bylaw was done in February so

1072
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:39,600
» to be clear simply simply because we've
passed an exemption or as I would say a

1073
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:46,159
permit uh to make noise does not
preclude any resident in the town of

1074
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:50,639
Mono uh who is agrieved by what they
perceive to be noise from telling us

1075
01:23:48,639 --> 01:23:52,159
about it. We need to get feedback from
the neighborhood.

1076
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,080
» Exactly.
>> Okay.

1077
01:23:52,639 --> 01:23:55,920
» Calling by.
>> Yeah.

1078
01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:59,600
» Well, they don't call directly.
>> And so another question was there or

1079
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:03,280
another thing you guys mentioned was who
was in charge there. So, it'll be me and

1080
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:07,600
my phone number that's on the
application. So,

1081
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,639
» uh there's no change in that.
>> Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

1082
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:17,679
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh the next uh next item up

1083
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:24,639
is the um noise extension permit to uh
uh Francisco Ramos if you'd like to come

1084
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:28,159
forward on behalf of
>> And this is the this is the one where

1085
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:31,120
you had a cancellation and you're
looking at a new date.

1086
01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:34,400
» Yeah. So, we weren't able to perform our
full event. Um, actually, it's the

1087
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:37,760
second event that happened this past
weekend. We got rained out as well. So,

1088
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:42,560
we just haven't had any luck,
unfortunately, with the weatherwise. Um,

1089
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:48,480
July 18th, we performed an event, not to
our full terms, unfortunately. Um, same

1090
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:52,639
as this past weekend, August 22nd, the
first one on July 18th, we had a haze

1091
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:58,719
alert with the fire hazards that
occurred uh within Ontario. So the um

1092
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:04,560
air quality was unconditional for
animals and people

1093
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:09,360
um and it did also thunder and rain. The
second uh run that we just had on

1094
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:15,280
Saturday, unfortunately we were rained
out. Uh we weren't able to perform a

1095
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:22,400
full event again. So in terms of that um
we need basically to redem ourselves

1096
01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:29,520
from our losses for those two runs. Uh
so we are requesting for September 26th.

1097
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:35,840
» Okay. Let me just read the the motion uh
that we amend the noise exemption permit

1098
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:44,400
issued to Francisco Romos uh and uh and
and approved by council on April 28th,

1099
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:48,639
2026 by adding September 26 uh 2026 as
the permitted event date. All other

1100
01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:55,760
terms and conditions of the permit are
unchanged. Do I have a mover for that?

1101
01:25:50,880 --> 01:26:02,159
Uh, deputy mayor moves seconded by
Do I have a seconder? Councelor Capes.

1102
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:06,159
Uh, questions or comments of councel?
Um, Ralph and then Melinda and then

1103
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:12,000
Elaine.
>> Um, you commented about the meeting on

1104
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:15,760
the 18th being cancelled because of
weather. Is that correct?

1105
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:20,639
» So, it wasn't fully canceled. We showed
up because we still paid our um rental

1106
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,920
fee for the facility grounds and
everything. We showed up, we set up and

1107
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:28,159
everything. We just couldn't perform our
full event. Uh so halfway through we we

1108
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:32,880
shut down.
>> So we had a comment from a resident that

1109
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:36,239
the event to some extent carried on. So
is that correct? You had

1110
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:38,400
» it carried on to some extent and then we
closed down. We didn't perform our full

1111
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,280
event.
>> Okay. Thank

1112
01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:46,800
Elaine.
Well, that's that's what I was going to

1113
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:51,679
clarify. And and this p when you say you
also got rained out on on the on the

1114
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:56,159
weekend here, you didn't even come to to
do it or you started and set up and then

1115
01:26:54,239 --> 01:27:00,239
and had to. So, that's not really the
same as as having something cancelled.

1116
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:04,159
» No, I didn't put cancel. I don't believe
I put cancellation fee. I put that we

1117
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:08,639
couldn't perform our full event.
>> Right. So, Right. So, I just kind of as

1118
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:12,719
I say, we've and again, this isn't
necessarily what you're asking for now.

1119
01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:16,080
I'm not the guy that that licenses
things that happen at the at the fair,

1120
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:20,719
but it seems to me that we got a whole
bunch of of rodeos going on and maybe we

1121
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:24,239
should, you know, spice it up with some
other events. Um, and that, you know,

1122
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,600
you've had a good season in that you've
had a couple of you've had a couple

1123
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,960
already, but
>> um,

1124
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:33,280
» we had one full event and then the two
kind of fallouts with the weather.

1125
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:38,080
Unfortunately, we can't.
>> With respect to the noise, are you aware

1126
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:42,080
of that? Was there any I mean before you
got rained out, were there any Were

1127
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:45,840
there any problems or concerns?
>> Um I asked the facility coordinator if

1128
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:50,800
everything went well and if there was
any complaints. She told me no. So Okay.

1129
01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:54,400
» Uh we haven't received any complaints to
our ears.

1130
01:27:51,600 --> 01:28:00,600
» Okay, great. Thank you.
>> I just need some clarification if you

1131
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,600
don't mind. Uh, so

1132
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:15,440
you had an approved rodeo for July 11th.
>> No. So we had So we had four original

1133
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:22,800
dates. May 30th, July 18th, August 22nd,
and October 10th.

1134
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:27,760
» July 18th, and August 22nd, we were uh
weathered out.

1135
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:30,560
» Okay. Somewhere I read uh July 11th was
the rain out.

1136
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:37,600
» No, that was in our event.
>> Okay. So July 18th was rained out.

1137
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:41,320
» July 18th and August 22nd. Yep.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1138
01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:48,719
Any other questions or comments?
Sorry that we can't control the weather.

1139
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:54,000
I know it's an unfortunate weather
event, but um we got to pull through and

1140
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:59,360
we got to do our best to make it happen.
>> Thank you. And again, you you you heard

1141
01:28:55,679 --> 01:29:02,960
my my concerns uh u in supporting these
kind of applications, but other

1142
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,960
counselors may take a different view.
>> Okay.

1143
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:07,679
» Okay. Shall I call the question?
>> Yes.

1144
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:13,440
» Uh all those in favor of the motion uh
before us,

1145
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:18,000
» those opposed,
motion is lost. That does not preclude

1146
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,960
you from proceeding, but uh you will not
have a noise exemption bylaw.

1147
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:26,400
» Okay.
>> Or noise exemption to the bylaw.

1148
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:30,520
» Okay.
Okay. Thank you.

1149
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,520
» Thank you.

1150
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:38,239
» Okay. Let's have a uh 10 minutes.
>> If you break,

1151
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:44,080
» I would just like to say that we've had
so many of these and you set up the

1152
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:53,760
other two. They didn't completely run
but the residents have been compoundedly

1153
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:59,920
exposed to many events and this is
another sort of add-on to getting

1154
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:05,760
towards you know the end of the season
and um so it's nothing personal. Okay.

1155
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:09,520
» Yeah. We just thought
>> you would try

1156
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:13,679
» and we're trying to redeem ourselves and
put our gains back because we don't Can

1157
01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:15,440
you put your microphone on while you're
speaking?

1158
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:20,000
» Yes.
>> Yeah. Is it all good now? Okay. So, we

1159
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:24,400
just figured that we would replace those
two dates with the 26th because we do

1160
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:28,960
still have to pay for these events that
occur even if we're rained out or not.

1161
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:33,840
» Um, so we were just trying to redem our
costs. Yeah. And again, I think in

1162
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:42,400
fairness, I need to ask the question.
Um, is there any indication from the uh

1163
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:46,480
uh the um um event center that uh uh you
have a contract?

1164
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:50,400
» So, we had a contract. Well, I signed a
document for four runs for this year

1165
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:54,960
specifically.
>> Um it was a request to apply for a noise

1166
01:30:54,159 --> 01:31:00,800
permit.
>> Okay. Um that's the fair grounds request

1167
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:03,440
on when we get the paperwork.
>> Okay. Thank you. We we just want that on

1168
01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:06,159
the record. Thank you.
>> Yes. No problem.

1169
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:11,280
» Yes.
>> So these these events which got started

1170
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:15,760
and run were ranked out were you not
able to charge attendance fees to the

1171
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:22,320
people who came?
>> So we did unfortunately our numbers

1172
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:28,000
didn't uh meet quota. So we only yeah
like the first run we did really well.

1173
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:33,760
Uh we reached 315 people. The second and
third run we just hit under 100.

1174
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:38,960
» Do you do people pay per run?
>> There is an entry fee of $20.

1175
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:43,440
» I see. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you again. We're going to have a

1176
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:47,880
10-minute recess.
>> So I think we should rename our

1177
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:33,199
again. Uh the next item on the agenda is
the um the report and motion with regard

1178
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:37,280
to the six line uh unopened road
allowance and deputy mayor Nicks has

1179
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:40,719
declared an interest and is leaving the
council

1180
01:44:38,719 --> 01:44:41,600
» indirect indirect conflict of interest.
Thank

1181
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:45,760
» you.
>> Uh excuse me, Deputy Mayor Nicks, could

1182
01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:49,440
you for the record just state what the
uh the conflict is? The indirect

1183
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:54,159
conflict is that I am a member of the
Bruce Trail and part of this sale of the

1184
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:58,880
UN open road allowances to the Bruce
Trail.

1185
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:03,199
» Thank you. So, I'm going to read the
motion and then we'll we'll have the

1186
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:07,920
questions and discussion. uh that we
received the report of the clerk titled

1187
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:13,679
closed six line EHS uh unopen road
allowance dated uh August the 14th, 2026

1188
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:17,840
and that we introduce and give the
necessary readings to a bylaw to

1189
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:24,560
permanently close uh the unopen road
allowance um between concessions 6 and 7

1190
01:45:21,119 --> 01:45:28,639
EHS at lot 7 and 8 that it be signed by
the mayor and clerk for the town of Mono

1191
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:33,840
sealed and engrossed in the bylaw book.
Do I have a mover for that? Um,

1192
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:39,239
councelor Capes moves seconded by
councelor Davyy. Uh, questions,

1193
01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:39,239
discussion.

1194
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:47,199
Ralph.
>> Um, I uh am a little fuzzy on all the

1195
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:53,679
details here. So, I just would like to
uh clarify with the clerk uh what

1196
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:59,280
exactly is happening. My understanding,
please correct me if I'm wrong, is that

1197
01:45:55,679 --> 01:46:04,719
we are selling parts 1 2 3 4 and five.
And we're selling a part pin which ends

1198
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:11,360
in 011.
And the other part of it is that we are

1199
01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:14,639
not uh um charging the Bruce Trail for
the portion that the portion of the

1200
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:22,560
Bruce Trail is purchasing which I think
is part one and that the sale to the

1201
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:26,639
others is going to be by negotiation
with the town

1202
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:31,040
» and that negotiation is all
>> that's almost I'm sorry your worship. Go

1203
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:37,760
ahead. Um, with the exception that the
Bruce Trail um is paying for the portion

1204
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:44,080
that they're going to acquire, it uh uh
staff had made a recommendation

1205
01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:48,719
previously or not made a recommendation
um had passed along the request from the

1206
01:46:46,239 --> 01:46:55,040
Bruce Trail that they not have to pay
and uh council indicated that uh they

1207
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:59,600
were to um pay a proportionate amount
for the amount that they were going to

1208
01:46:56,719 --> 01:47:05,679
acquire which they've agreed agreed to
um all parties. Uh we have a verbal

1209
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:11,760
agreement. Um it'll go to lawyers to be
written up and finalized, but the last

1210
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:18,320
administrative step prior to that is to
legally close the road. And that's the

1211
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:22,159
step we're at now. And and my additional
thing,

1212
01:47:20,239 --> 01:47:27,920
thanks for that clarification, is that
you have a negotiated a a number comes

1213
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:35,119
to I think 45,000 you have indicated and
that we're going to agree to that.

1214
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:40,639
» Uh I've indicated it for so that
council's aware, but council gave staff

1215
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:43,760
the authority to negotiate the price and
I've indicated what we've negotiated.

1216
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:50,880
Fine.
>> So, at this point, we're seeking

1217
01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:55,840
council's uh approval to close the road.
>> So, so essentially, as I indicated,

1218
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:59,280
except for the Bruce Trail. So, thank
you for the clarification.

1219
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:04,159
» What do you mean?
>> Well, he um councelor Magdalo indicated

1220
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:08,080
that he thought that we were giving the
land to the Bruce Trail when in fact we

1221
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,159
are going to receive
>> payment for it.

1222
01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:13,440
» I didn't understand his last.
>> Sorry, microphone.

1223
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:19,440
microphone, please.
>> My last my last comment was that um the

1224
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:26,480
indic what I'd indicated as being the
conditions of this uh movement was

1225
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:30,159
agreed to essentially by the clerk.
>> Yeah.

1226
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:36,400
Yeah. So, so this we've talked about
this a number of times now. We we talked

1227
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:40,960
about it um recently where we went over
again what exactly the pieces pieces

1228
01:48:38,639 --> 01:48:46,400
were where we gave we gave permission
for them to for the the staff to take

1229
01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:51,199
over as the staff should be. It's not a
council position um to to do the

1230
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:56,800
negotiating for the sale. it is our it
is our job to deem it deem it um surplus

1231
01:48:55,040 --> 01:49:02,159
and then now that it's been deemed
surplus and there's been negotiations

1232
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:05,960
it's our it's our job to to close it but
that's that's all

1233
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:13,760
» yeah and as I understand it once you've
deemed something surplus there are

1234
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:18,960
different ways of disposing of that land
one of which is negotiation and and

1235
01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:23,520
council did in fact instruct staff to
negotiate

1236
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:28,639
as opposed to um you know real estate
listings and and that kind of thing.

1237
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:31,760
Yeah. Okay. Any further questions or
comments on the uh recommendation? I've

1238
01:49:30,719 --> 01:49:35,679
read the motion.
>> Any opposed to the motion? And that

1239
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:40,080
motion is carried.
>> Thank you, staff.

1240
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:43,080
» And if we can uh get uh deputy mayor
back.

1241
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:53,040
Next uh item on the agenda is the EV
charging station renewal.

1242
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:58,400
And who on staff would like to uh
address that?

1243
01:49:55,280 --> 01:50:04,000
Uh I wrote the uh report your worship.
So this is uh basically carrying on with

1244
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:10,000
the same uh agreement under the same
terms that the council has had for the

1245
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:14,239
two stations uh at this building. uh
with the exception that the

1246
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:19,440
reimbursement for the electricity costs
that we bear has increased slightly but

1247
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:24,639
they are sufficient to cover our costs
for that we pay for electricity.

1248
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:28,880
» Okay. I don't appear to have a motion on
that. Am I missing something?

1249
01:50:26,639 --> 01:50:32,480
» Uh I can read what there is a prepared
motion but I can read it out if you

1250
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:36,880
don't have it in front.
>> Okay. that we introduce and give the

1251
01:50:34,719 --> 01:50:41,760
necessary readings to a bylaw
authorizing the town of Mono to enter

1252
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:46,480
into a memorandum of understanding with
the county of Duffren for the operation

1253
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:51,199
and maintenance of electric vehicle
charging stations substantially in the

1254
01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:55,440
form is attached as schedule A to the
bylaw and that it be signed by the mayor

1255
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:58,960
and the clerk for the town of Mono
sealed and engrossed in the bylaw book.

1256
01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:02,800
» Thank you. And I did find it and that's
what the the motion says. Yes, moved.

1257
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:06,320
Moved by councelor Cape, seconded by
councelor Davey.

1258
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,679
» Uh any uh any opposition?
>> Oh.

1259
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:11,600
» Oh. Any questions?
>> Yeah. Before we vote, we want to discuss

1260
01:51:09,679 --> 01:51:16,000
right cuz this is with particularly with
our new climate change action committee

1261
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:21,520
and all that things that have to do with
electrical stuff is important. I I have

1262
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:26,080
a question. How come we are now doing
this 9 months after the terms say that

1263
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:32,159
they're going to start discussions 6
months before the end of the term? Have

1264
01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:36,840
we have did did that happen? Why why did
it Yeah. So why did it take so long?

1265
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:46,080
» Staff had staff has been in
communications with the county and I

1266
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:50,480
believe it just fell off their plate
>> because it's a it's a uh whatever. I

1267
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:55,679
mean, it's just something that you might
as well um do things on time and

1268
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:58,960
» like missing a water sample that you
didn't have a calendar.

1269
01:51:57,599 --> 01:52:01,440
» Oh, yeah. But it's a lot of it's a lot
of months. It's it's a lot of months,

1270
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:06,639
right?
>> It it fell off, I believe, the county's

1271
01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:11,199
uh list and we poked them to get this
agreeouou uh running again.

1272
01:52:09,199 --> 01:52:15,599
» Thank you. Because I I would assume this
is a county thing, then this would also

1273
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:19,040
be an county project to have the
chargers at all the towns. I would

1274
01:52:17,199 --> 01:52:24,560
imagine that all of the towns have been
a little delayed in it all too, right?

1275
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:29,199
» I'm not 100% who entered intoUS with the
county, but I think a lot of the lower

1276
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:34,000
tiers did at least for one station. We
asked for Mono Center at the same time.

1277
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:39,119
You you may recall, but uh we've failed
on that application twice now. MTO

1278
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:44,639
doesn't deem it to be what's the
utilization like? Um that was what

1279
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:51,520
triggered the uh that question was what
triggered the actual u finding out that

1280
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:57,119
theou was we were trying to get our uh
um our heads wrapped around the

1281
01:52:53,679 --> 01:53:03,599
utilization and that that I believe has
has or will be provided very soon from

1282
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:07,599
the county. I don't think I don't think
you're

1283
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:11,760
um I don't think you're going to fall
over with the amount of ve they're not

1284
01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:14,800
waiting in line to get out there. Um but
there has been some weekend utilization

1285
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:19,679
we've seen.
>> Um we see the odd 6:00 in the morning

1286
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:25,360
person out there. Uh but we don't see a
lot of daytime use. Um um yeah. So,

1287
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:28,080
» okay.
>> I was just going to say that they Oh,

1288
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:30,800
sorry.
>> The the county has provided those

1289
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:35,599
figures about
>> for for all of the charging stations

1290
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:38,480
about 6 months ago, but I off the top I
can't remember them. They You're right.

1291
01:53:37,119 --> 01:53:42,800
I don't think anyone would fall off
their chair looking at the numbers, but

1292
01:53:40,239 --> 01:53:48,320
they are being used. Yeah, I I firmly
believe that there there's the community

1293
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:54,159
centers would probably be uh they would
get utilized at the weddings and at the

1294
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:59,520
um but uh destination and wayfinding I
think people are coming to Monocliffs

1295
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:05,520
with with a full charge and and and
they're they're they're not uh but it is

1296
01:54:02,239 --> 01:54:08,800
there it's a service provided and uh and
it's pretty good. Well,

1297
01:54:07,599 --> 01:54:13,280
» well, and also thank you very much,
Mayor, because also in theou there it is

1298
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:16,880
it is a cost to the town, right? It's a
it's it's nice that they give us the the

1299
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:20,960
couple of fractions of a cent back for
whatever, but but the actual having to

1300
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:25,520
plow around it and make sure it's okay
and and everything is is is a cost to

1301
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,920
our to our public works department,
right?

1302
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:31,040
» We plow in the parking lot anyway.
>> I know, but not delicately around

1303
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:34,719
something so that things could get
there. You could just kind of plow a

1304
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:37,440
little differently if you didn't have a
very expensive piece of equipment in the

1305
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:38,719
middle.
>> Your question.

1306
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,360
» Okay.
>> Okay.

1307
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:45,520
» We we moved a few signs to make it
easier for us. They're at the out the

1308
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:51,199
outside of where they probably should
be, but uh um it does fit a fullsize

1309
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:55,760
loader in there now, which is uh so
people can get access to the uh the

1310
01:54:53,679 --> 01:54:57,760
station, but there is there was a
minimal impact to it.

1311
01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:00,480
» Okay.
>> Okay. Good. Thank you.

1312
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:06,560
» So, we have a motion on the floor. Is
there any opposition to? Seeing none,

1313
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:12,239
motion passes. Then we get to uh this
exotic thing called a joint compliance

1314
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:16,080
audit committee report. And I'll read
the motion and then we'll have

1315
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:21,520
discussion. The council receives uh
staff report joint compliance audit

1316
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:26,960
committee 2026 municipal and school
board elections dated July 31st, 2026.

1317
01:55:25,599 --> 01:55:33,520
And that council approves the
establishment of a joint compliance

1318
01:55:28,719 --> 01:55:37,760
audit committee for the 2026 to 2030
term and delegate authority to the clerk

1319
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:43,119
to appoint members in accordance with
the approved terms of reference. And

1320
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:46,719
further that we introduce and give the
necessary readings to a bylaw to

1321
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:50,239
establish a joint compliance audit
committee that it be signed by the mayor

1322
01:55:48,719 --> 01:55:54,800
and clerk for the town of Mono sealed
and engrossed in the bylaw book. Do I

1323
01:55:52,480 --> 01:56:00,080
have a mover for that? Deputy Mayor,
seconded by Councelor Capes. Uh,

1324
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:05,840
questions and discussion.
Who wants to go first?

1325
01:56:03,679 --> 01:56:09,840
And has this ever been used? That's my
question. Have we ever had to uh to use

1326
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:13,040
it?
>> Jessica,

1327
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:18,239
» my understanding is that no, we the town
of Mono has not had a request for a

1328
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:21,360
compliance audit and I'm not aware of
any from the other participating

1329
01:56:19,679 --> 01:56:26,000
municipalities either.
>> Excuse me. Yes. Go ahead. In the last

1330
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:30,480
election, or was it two elections ago,
we had one person who ran for the school

1331
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:34,880
board who did not file their financial
statements and was banned from running

1332
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:38,639
for the next election. I I'm not going
to name that person. So, somebody must

1333
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:42,400
have
my assumption is that finding must have

1334
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:46,480
been done by an audit compliance
committee, wasn't it, Fred?

1335
01:56:44,639 --> 01:56:49,599
» I believe that was a school board that
was administered by a different

1336
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,599
municipality.
What

1337
01:56:52,080 --> 01:57:00,960
do you mean this municipality?
>> Yeah, school boards uh one municipality

1338
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:04,639
in each writing for a school board
oversees it for all the municipalities

1339
01:57:03,599 --> 01:57:09,520
within that writing.
>> It's probably East GR

1340
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:13,840
» different school board. He's a very busy
fellow.

1341
01:57:11,679 --> 01:57:20,159
» Okay, a motion's on the floor. I'll call
the vote. Any opposed? Seeing none, the

1342
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:25,599
motion carries. Closed
meeting investigate investigator

1343
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:30,880
services. Um I'll read the motion. uh
that council receives the closed meeting

1344
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:36,560
investigator services report dated July
31st, 2026 and that council directs

1345
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:41,920
staff to take take the necessary steps
to transition the town's closed meeting

1346
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:49,360
investigator program to the Ontario
OMBbudsman effective July January 1st

1347
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:55,280
2027 upon expiry of the local uh L
program. Do I have a mover for that?

1348
01:57:53,280 --> 01:58:00,440
Uh, councelor Davyy, seconded by
councelor Magalo. Questions, discussion.

1349
01:58:00,719 --> 01:58:07,840
Has this ever been uh
utilized, invoked, or otherwise relied

1350
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:11,280
upon?
>> What the

1351
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:13,840
» Have we ever had a a closed meeting
complaint, I guess, is what I'm I'm

1352
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:18,719
asking.
>> Yes. Right.

1353
01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:23,599
No, we've not had a closed meeting
complaint in uh in my term of uh as

1354
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:28,080
clerk
>> but if you read the ombbudsman report

1355
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:31,760
which is in schedule A that is kind of
the thing that is a problem for the

1356
01:58:30,159 --> 01:58:36,000
councils right the ombbudsman does a
whole bunch of stuff and with respect to

1357
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:39,040
councils it's very often what's happened
>> my question was specific to this council

1358
01:58:38,239 --> 01:58:43,280
» right okay
>> Fred

1359
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:48,239
» and I just want to clarify uh so when we
were with LA the ombbudsman was not

1360
01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:53,679
doing closed meeting investigations on
the town of Mono, but they were still

1361
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:57,599
doing other types of investigations.
>> Yeah.

1362
01:58:54,639 --> 01:59:00,880
» Which is why Mono was included in their
most recent report.

1363
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:05,440
» Okay.
Thank you. Any other questions,

1364
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:12,480
comments? Any opposition? Motion
carries. Next item on the agenda is the

1365
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:16,320
um
>> Ontario Land

1366
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:19,840
» the Ontario Land Tribunal Appeal. And
I'll put the motion on the floor that

1367
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:28,320
council receives staff report Ontario
Land Tribunal Appeal 20 Medel Drive

1368
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:32,800
dated August 17th, 2026. Moved by
Deputy Mayor, seconded by Councelor

1369
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:37,840
Magalo. Is there any discussion? I think
this is just informing us that the

1370
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,840
matter is going to appeal.

1371
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:47,360
So, is it the wish of council to uh to
support this?

1372
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:50,360
» And the motion is carried accordingly.
>> Um,

1373
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,719
» we're just receiving.
>> We're just receiving it. Yeah. Motion is

1374
01:59:53,199 --> 01:59:59,599
to receive.
>> So, the next motion has to do with

1375
01:59:57,199 --> 02:00:03,920
ebikes. Now, read it and then we can
have discussion. Whereas in Ontario,

1376
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:08,560
ebikes and e- scooters are regulated by
provincial law under the Ontario Highway

1377
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:13,280
Traffic Act. Local municipalities have
the final say on whether they are

1378
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:18,159
permitted on their public sidewalks,
bike lanes or roads and public

1379
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:24,159
properties such as parks. And whereas
ebikes and e scooters are becoming more

1380
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:27,840
popular and whereas uh there has been an
increased number of deaths and injuries

1381
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:33,199
related to these forms of
transportation. And whereas Mono has

1382
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:38,880
experienced damage to paved surfaces on
our uh in our public parks with costs

1383
02:00:36,159 --> 02:00:43,760
incurred by taxpayers for repair and
whereas no municip

1384
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:47,920
municipalities in Duffren have opted uh
into the provincial pilot program.

1385
02:00:46,159 --> 02:00:53,119
Therefore, be it resolved that council
hereby declare uh that the use of ebikes

1386
02:00:51,119 --> 02:00:58,800
remains subject to the highway traffic
act rules and e- scooters uh will be

1387
02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:03,520
considered illegal for use on public
roads, sidewalks, trails, parks within

1388
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:06,639
the town of Mooney and only permissible
on private property. And you'd like to

1389
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:10,239
move that to councelor Cage?
>> Yes, I'd like to move that. And I know

1390
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:15,520
that you have additional information
about this through the OP. I'm I'm happy

1391
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:17,679
to second it and and open it up for
discussion.

1392
02:01:16,239 --> 02:01:21,719
» Right. Okay.
>> Uh councelor Davy.

1393
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:28,320
» Thank you very much Elaine for bringing
this forward. It's a hot topic everybody

1394
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:32,880
around. Um I'm not everybody around all
the municipalities are being concerned

1395
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:37,599
about the problem with the motion that I
see it is there's a discussion you you

1396
02:01:34,639 --> 02:01:42,320
open up by ebikes and e- scooters
and the the

1397
02:01:40,639 --> 02:01:48,800
it
damage that we had was by e ebikes not e

1398
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:52,880
scooters right like because the tires
were so much bigger the tires on the e

1399
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:58,239
scooters are quite narrow versus that
that pattern that we saw on the rubber

1400
02:01:56,080 --> 02:02:01,119
at Island Lake Park. Was Island Lake
Park. Was Island Lake Park. So, at any

1401
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:04,800
rate, there
>> we have proof of that.

1402
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:08,960
» Well, we saw the pictures and if you see
the equipment, but anyway, never mind. I

1403
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:13,520
digress. What what what what what really
what really is is that that the

1404
02:02:11,599 --> 02:02:18,000
education, I think, is what we need as
opposed to just a motion that says

1405
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:22,159
banning because they already are not
allowed. You can't you can't be on one

1406
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:26,080
of these things if you're under 16. You
have to be on on a helmet. They're not

1407
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:30,880
allowed on the on the roads. They just
the the opting program.

1408
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:36,880
Um what did what did you call it? The
the pilot program. The pilot program is

1409
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:41,599
to override the illegalness of them and
say you can have them. So it's kind of

1410
02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:46,080
not necessary for us to ban them, but I
actually really believe that it's

1411
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:49,760
necessary for us to get um education out
there. education that that these are

1412
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:53,199
illegal, that parents shouldn't be
buying from for their kids, their kids

1413
02:02:51,599 --> 02:02:57,679
shouldn't be riding them, and they're
very dangerous, and that you will be

1414
02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:03,280
fined by the by the police, which who
have got a because of there's been some

1415
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:07,119
deaths, they've got a a um a mandate and
and an interest to be doing something,

1416
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:10,239
but we also know they have a mandate and
interest to stop speeding on airport

1417
02:03:08,719 --> 02:03:14,400
road and do all these like there's just
so much. So, I'm wondering is there

1418
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:18,320
something that we could some
brainstorming adding that we could in

1419
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:22,880
some way as opposed to just making this
statement and saying we're banning it to

1420
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:26,320
somehow increase education in our
community to keep our people safe?

1421
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:33,119
» I I can speak to that and then I'll
recognize Ralph. Um the the OP is going

1422
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:37,760
to launch a public education uh program
around this and we have a um a police

1423
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:43,760
services board meeting tomorrow that
I'll be attending. uh and the topic is

1424
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:49,599
on their agenda. So the public education
uh is in fact occurring. Uh I think as

1425
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:54,400
well it's it's occurring because of of a
motion like this that reminds everybody

1426
02:03:52,159 --> 02:03:59,520
that we are not part of the uh pilot
program that provisions of the highway

1427
02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:05,360
traffic act still apply even if we were
part of the pilot program. You're

1428
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:11,440
correct in that regard. Uh and um this
is in response to uh many phone calls

1429
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:16,639
that um we we've all probably received
uh of the uh reckless use of these

1430
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:21,840
devices and and it's occurring in our
subdivisions, it's occurring u

1431
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:27,840
elsewhere. Um, and you know, whether or
not the culprit in the case of the uh of

1432
02:04:25,199 --> 02:04:31,679
the the park was one of these devices, I
think we're sending a signal to the

1433
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:35,360
public that this is this is just not on
and there are many municipalities that

1434
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:39,440
opted into the pilot program that wish
they hadn't. Um, Ralph and then Melinda.

1435
02:04:38,639 --> 02:04:43,119
Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1436
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:47,440
» Yeah. Um, did you want to follow up on
>> Well, just Yeah, just the the the

1437
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:50,560
clarification between e scooters,
they're definitely they're all illegal.

1438
02:04:48,639 --> 02:04:55,040
They're selling them at Costco. You who
knows why people sell the stuff they do,

1439
02:04:52,080 --> 02:05:01,520
but you they're illegal. But the ebike
situation is it's nuanced. So the the

1440
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:08,239
motorcycle the mo the dirt bikes and so
on that are that have the have the power

1441
02:05:04,639 --> 02:05:12,800
in their in their motor with a throttle
to be able to burn rubber like you're

1442
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:18,080
doing in your car when you pull donuts
or whatever or when you muck up our new

1443
02:05:14,719 --> 02:05:22,400
thing. Those are a different entity than
just ebikes in general which are pedal

1444
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:26,239
assisted and you're only ever going to
get the amount of energy out of it that

1445
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:30,159
I mean some they're throttle not thrott
throttle is not the right word. They're

1446
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:33,440
they're held back to be not not able to
go as fast. They don't have as much

1447
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:37,360
oomph in their motor and in order to get
the oomph to go you have have to put

1448
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:41,040
your physical as opposed to just turning
a throttle like a motorcycle. So, I

1449
02:05:39,599 --> 02:05:46,560
would like a little bit more
clarification in here because I don't

1450
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:51,360
want we have we have terrific trails
that in our in our community that we

1451
02:05:48,480 --> 02:06:00,560
maintain that we do like bicyclists to
use and nowadays e ebikes are eassed

1452
02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:06,239
bikes are not banned. They are allowed.
They are encouraged. It's it it's here

1453
02:06:03,119 --> 02:06:10,880
to stay. But these other ones, they're
illegal.

1454
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:14,480
Would would it would it assist if we we
modified the the wording to say e

1455
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:16,639
devices?
>> Say to say what?

1456
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:20,239
» E devices.
>> No, it's confusing.

1457
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:26,239
» Okay, Ralph, go ahead and then Fred.
>> So, couple of comments and a suggestion.

1458
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:30,639
Um I agree with you. Um
>> Mike, couple of comments and a

1459
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:35,760
suggestion. I agree with you, Melinda.
Um I I doubt that ebikes could you can

1460
02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:40,480
burn rubber with them. I have one. I'm
not an expert in them, but you certainly

1461
02:06:37,679 --> 02:06:44,480
need to uh pedal uh in order to get the
assistance to work. And it's really hard

1462
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:49,760
to burn rubber. I think it's must have
been something something else that was

1463
02:06:46,239 --> 02:06:56,719
in our damaging our tennis court. The I
think your purpose here is to u bring uh

1464
02:06:53,360 --> 02:07:03,599
this issue this issue of uh scooters uh
into the public understanding. Um they

1465
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:07,360
already are banned. They're not allowed.
that's part of the highway act and

1466
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:14,000
they're banned unless we enter a pilot
project which we're not. So this this um

1467
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:18,800
uh statement that they'll be considered
illegal. I don't quite think we got to

1468
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:22,880
do that because they are illegal. Maybe
what you'd like to do is to change the

1469
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:27,679
word considered to recognized and it
would sound like this. Da da da da.

1470
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:33,920
declare that the use of ebikes remain
subject to highway traffic acts and that

1471
02:07:29,679 --> 02:07:37,280
e- scooters will be considered will will
be recognized I should say will be

1472
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:40,880
recognized because people don't
recognize them right now and that is a

1473
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:44,000
part of the public education to which I
think John and you are both talking

1474
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:47,760
about the way it reads right now it
suggests that we're trying to ban them

1475
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:54,239
or not because they already are banned
so my my my um uh friendly amendment is

1476
02:07:51,920 --> 02:08:00,079
to change considered should be
considered I think to recognized.

1477
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:03,360
» Recognized as illegal.
>> Um, recognized as illegal. Yes.

1478
02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:08,880
» Any problem with that? I'm fine with
that.

1479
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:15,040
» Yeah. So, recognized as illegal. Fred,
>> can I just ask an ignorant question?

1480
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:16,079
An ebike is like a bike that you own.
Ralph.

1481
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:21,119
» Yep.
>> And that's I I know it's been written on

1482
02:08:18,719 --> 02:08:24,800
the seventh line. That that is illegal.
That

1483
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:26,639
» No, no, it's not illegal. Ebikes are are
quite legal.

1484
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:27,280
» They're quite legal.
>> Yes.

1485
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:31,520
» Okay.
>> Yeah. Under the Highway Traffic Act.

1486
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:34,159
» Okay. Because we're just saying in the
in the therefore clause, we're just

1487
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,520
saying e scooters.
>> That's right.

1488
02:08:34,719 --> 02:08:39,520
» Okay.
>> And and and that's the operative part of

1489
02:08:37,599 --> 02:08:42,400
the motion. Everything else is is
probably

1490
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:46,480
» Yeah.
>> I guess if we really wanted to educate

1491
02:08:44,719 --> 02:08:50,320
people, which is the purpose of this,
though I still stand by. Thanks that the

1492
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:54,880
OP is coming out, but I I'd like Mono to
do something. I I would like it on our

1493
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:59,920
Facebook page. I'd like it at our at our
um environmental uh control party in in

1494
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:03,679
October that you know, yeah, yeah, it's
great to have these e things, but be

1495
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:08,239
responsible or whatever. But it's the
it's the e motorbike as opposed to the e

1496
02:09:07,119 --> 02:09:13,360
pedal bike.
>> I think is maybe a distinction that

1497
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:18,079
those e dirt bikes are not allowed on
the road. And in mono, cuz I'm a dirt

1498
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:21,599
biker, you're not even allowed to have
your dirt bike on the your engine dirt

1499
02:09:20,079 --> 02:09:27,280
bike on the road, right? You guys made
that law before I showed up. So the I I

1500
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:32,239
think it's important to not remove the
the bicycle part of it so that people

1501
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:37,119
are are or not bicycle, the bike part of
it, and to to somehow put in there um so

1502
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:40,400
I I would use the word the expression
dirt bikes because that's what they are.

1503
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:46,239
They're they're an off-road real
off-road bicycle as opposed to just a

1504
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:49,119
mountain ebike that's pedal assisted,
but

1505
02:09:47,119 --> 02:09:51,840
» if your microphone was on
>> Well, I'm not sure what your uh

1506
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:55,119
» Go ahead. Um
>> I'm not quite sure what you're

1507
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:58,719
suggesting the change would be.
>> Yeah, I didn't understand.

1508
02:09:56,560 --> 02:10:02,560
» And by the way, we made this rule before
you came because we'd heard you were

1509
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:06,800
coming.
>> I only go where I'm allowed to go, so

1510
02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:11,199
not to worry. But the but yeah the the
the change only because only well

1511
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:16,480
because your your whereas is all start.
So if we're only going to change the

1512
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:21,119
bottom to a there therefore for for
>> then then we need to also I think cons

1513
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:24,719
take into account if we're going to
change it I think we need to take into

1514
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:30,320
account that the expression ebikes is a
bit too too broad and misleading in

1515
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:34,000
contrast to e scooters cuz e scooter you
there's no way to make a move except for

1516
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:37,679
standing on it and pulling the throttle
right or no I guess you could pet I

1517
02:10:36,239 --> 02:10:41,360
guess you could
>> push whatever but you don't right so

1518
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:46,480
anyway the whole thing is just a little
bit um cumbersome. So

1519
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:51,280
» I I I I think the the the amendment to
recognize

1520
02:10:48,239 --> 02:10:57,119
illegal is is important and and I I
think it captures it. Uh I think we we

1521
02:10:54,639 --> 02:11:01,920
do need to send a signal that even the
conventional dirt bike, we've all seen

1522
02:10:59,679 --> 02:11:08,560
examples of people not wearing helmets
and and uh uh not being insured uh not

1523
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:11,920
being plated for those devices and uh
that is troublesome. that is very

1524
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:16,719
troublesome
>> and and for education with respect to

1525
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:23,599
this buying these these um uh toys for
your children. Um there was a um lawyer

1526
02:11:20,639 --> 02:11:25,199
I saw on social media trying to get the
message out.

1527
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:29,520
» Really good.
>> Really good saying that you know as

1528
02:11:27,599 --> 02:11:33,760
parents for these people under 16 like
you're liable. You're liable on many

1529
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:36,320
fronts if something should happen. Never
mind the guilt that you'll feel when

1530
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:40,639
your kid's head gets smushed. Right.
Yeah.

1531
02:11:37,599 --> 02:11:46,800
» Well, and and the the that that post is
uh is is exceptionally helpful because

1532
02:11:43,199 --> 02:11:52,800
it points out that if uh if uh a rider
of one of these these devices uh hits a

1533
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:55,440
pedestrian, the pedestrian can counters
sue

1534
02:11:53,599 --> 02:11:59,599
» the parents.
>> And you know, the whole thing uh

1535
02:11:57,679 --> 02:12:03,760
devolves into a world of hurt for
everybody concerned.

1536
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:08,719
» Mhm. Well, that's partially my reason
for bringing this forward was the whole

1537
02:12:06,639 --> 02:12:13,360
let's get people's attention about this.
And I know that Orangeville did make a

1538
02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:18,800
declaration
um not just opt out of the program. They

1539
02:12:16,639 --> 02:12:24,560
made a declaration that these were not
legal. Now they have more sidewalks and

1540
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:29,760
more places where you know these could
be encountered. But I thought after our

1541
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:35,920
conversation about what happened in our
own park um that you know we should make

1542
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:40,480
a statement and yes there's a lot of
education that needs to happen and we

1543
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:44,800
were in Vaughn the other day and these
things are rampant. They're everywhere.

1544
02:12:42,719 --> 02:12:48,960
People are driving them on every road
down the like main streets. They even

1545
02:12:47,599 --> 02:12:53,440
have you know how you used to get a
bicycle, you could use the bicycle and

1546
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:58,719
return it at another station. They even
have these at those stations now. They

1547
02:12:56,239 --> 02:13:01,840
do provide a helmet, but still people
are getting on them. They don't know.

1548
02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:04,960
Anyway, so
>> they're pretty prevalent in all.

1549
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:08,719
» I appreciate the conversation.
>> Um

1550
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:13,920
Fred and Jessica, can we look into
having a something on the website that

1551
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:18,480
maybe picks up um from another
municipality the um uh the message?

1552
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:22,639
There are some very good municipal
messages out there on this. We'll do a

1553
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:28,400
scan and we will certainly follow the
OP's lead as well.

1554
02:13:24,159 --> 02:13:33,840
» Yeah. Okay. Good. So, with the amendment
uh on consent to recognize uh illegal as

1555
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:37,679
opposed to consider illegal, uh any
opposition to the motion? Seeing none,

1556
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,840
it carries.
>> Thank you.

1557
02:13:41,199 --> 02:13:49,920
And um finally, but not last, I have a
motion that we introduce and give the

1558
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:54,960
necessary readings to a bylaw to appoint
a town clerk and deputy clerk of the

1559
02:13:53,119 --> 02:14:00,400
corporation of the town of Mono that it
be signed by the mayor and clerk sealed

1560
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:05,040
and engrossed in the bylaw book. Do I
have a mover for that? Oh,

1561
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:09,679
» move it by councelor Cape, seconded by
councelor Magalo. Uh questions,

1562
02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:17,119
comments?
Go ahead. Uh, and then

1563
02:14:13,119 --> 02:14:22,239
» maybe I'm confusing things, but clerk
and deputy clerk.

1564
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:27,639
So, clerk is Jessica.
Deputy clerk, is that not our CEO?

1565
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:35,679
» So, Les and I are actually appointed
under another bylaw. Uh should there be

1566
02:14:33,679 --> 02:14:41,599
it is my job descript in my job
description as deputy clerk and I was

1567
02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:49,040
but the bylaw I as I understand it from
Jessica uh that appointed me as CEO uh

1568
02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:53,520
also included uh my contract and and
other things and then less was appointed

1569
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:58,079
at another bylaw because we had some
absenteeism at one point right

1570
02:14:55,599 --> 02:15:05,360
» um so you're you're well covered
>> um and Fred will another bylaw will come

1571
02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:11,440
back in November, which will be a sad
sad bylaw saying goodbye to our newest

1572
02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:14,960
deputy clerk. Um, so there will be some
some definitely a few bylaws and then

1573
02:15:13,440 --> 02:15:18,079
Jessica and I will speak about whether
we want to do an all-encompassing bylaw.

1574
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:21,440
Okay.
>> Uh to uh um

1575
02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:25,440
» so it's us. Great. Thank you.
>> It's a demotion now and then uh worse

1576
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:30,480
news in the fall.
>> So we we are a municipality that's

1577
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:32,000
blessed with three deputy clerks.
>> Yes.

1578
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,719
» Right. Yeah.
>> Go ahead, Frank.

1579
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:38,480
» I just wanted to know if the the
demotion from clerk to deputy clerk,

1580
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:41,440
does it change the position on the
salary grid?

1581
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:46,679
» Absolutely.
>> That might affect his attendance. So, uh

1582
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:56,639
» any any further attempts at humor?
>> Any opposed?

1583
02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:59,800
Congratulations, Jessica.
>> Thank you.

1584
02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:18,119
Happy to be here.
>> You can trade chairs, too.

1585
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:26,079
» But at this point, uh, Miss Kennedy will
take over as clerk of the meeting.

1586
02:16:23,599 --> 02:16:29,520
» Yes. Excellent.
>> Thank you.

1587
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:37,280
» Thank you. and and uh there's lots of
times for uh uh tribute and uh uh

1588
02:16:33,599 --> 02:16:42,160
memories u Fred. So you haven't heard
the last from us.

1589
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:47,719
Okay. Schedule A. I have a motion that
we accept schedule A to this agenda.

1590
02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:47,719
» We have other

1591
02:16:48,479 --> 02:16:54,399
» we're up to schedule A.
>> Yep. A

1592
02:16:52,479 --> 02:16:58,160
» we are.
So I do I have a mover and a secondary

1593
02:16:56,479 --> 02:17:04,399
to schedule A and then we can dive into
it. Moved by councelor Davyy, seconded

1594
02:17:00,479 --> 02:17:10,399
by councelor Capes. Um items on schedule
A. Um councelor Capesh sent two in. I

1595
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:13,519
believe
>> I sent two in.

1596
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:18,800
» And I have a few when you
>> Okay. So councelor Capes first then Fred

1597
02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:21,439
and we'll move down the table
>> if they haven't been discussed already.

1598
02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:25,200
» Yep.
>> Okay. One that I didn't put on the

1599
02:17:23,599 --> 02:17:29,200
» one that I didn't put on the list was
number five. And I just want to make a

1600
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:34,319
quick comment because I think that uh
livestock is already included in the

1601
02:17:31,519 --> 02:17:37,599
county's emergency planning.
>> Fred acknowledges that. Yes, it is.

1602
02:17:36,399 --> 02:17:42,479
That's true.
>> So going straight was that your only

1603
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:47,679
comment on that could cuz can can I
clarify you want to build on that? Well,

1604
02:17:45,519 --> 02:17:51,679
big thank you because it was on my list
to ask for clarification because we got

1605
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:55,280
this letter and now because it's a
number of weeks later that's it goes on

1606
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:59,280
to the schedule A for the public to see.
But it was a very good letter and a very

1607
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:03,359
good points and and and
seem to be asking for a lot more of the

1608
02:18:01,679 --> 02:18:06,080
actual logistics like who are going to
be the volunteers who are going to come

1609
02:18:04,639 --> 02:18:10,000
and put my horse cuz I don't have a
trailer in when we're evacuated and

1610
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:15,599
everything. And so the the answer was
that yes, Duffren it's in the animals

1611
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:20,399
are in the plan for preparedness. But
does the Duffren does it does it go as

1612
02:18:18,719 --> 02:18:24,240
much as what this letter said? That's
what I wanted to to clarify.

1613
02:18:22,719 --> 02:18:26,800
» That's what I wanted to clarify.
>> Okay.

1614
02:18:24,639 --> 02:18:29,679
» Oops. But now we have to wait cuz that
stopped everything.

1615
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:35,120
» We we did we lose our internet.
>> It looks like it stopped.

1616
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:39,599
I would recommend your worship. We give
uh Andrew a few minutes to uh get

1617
02:18:37,439 --> 02:18:42,559
everything back online. Confirm that
we're online and streaming before we

1618
02:18:41,519 --> 02:18:46,960
carry on.
>> So Andrew, if you can confirm when

1619
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:50,200
everything is back and ready and that
we're streaming,

1620
02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:56,160
» that was too quick for the generator to
kick in.

1621
02:18:54,319 --> 02:19:00,800
» They didn't kick in. No, but this seemed
And this I don't know.

1622
02:18:58,880 --> 02:19:02,160
It looks like the stream is still
active. Oh,

1623
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:04,000
» okay.
>> Okay. Thank you,

1624
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:09,519
» Fred. You had a a comment.
>> Yeah. So, I've reached out to uh uh

1625
02:19:07,359 --> 02:19:16,479
Steve Murphy, who is the county
emergency coordinator, and asked that

1626
02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:21,200
this go on to uh the next countywide um
Duffren Joint Emergency Management

1627
02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:26,000
Committee for further discussion. To
your point, councelor Davey, our

1628
02:19:22,880 --> 02:19:32,399
emergency plan includes more than just a
list of uh of vendors and service

1629
02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:38,479
suppliers. So, we do have that list of
various livestock and dead stock and

1630
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:44,479
other uh vendors in the agricultural
area, but the plan also lays out certain

1631
02:19:41,439 --> 02:19:49,359
specific actions uh in the event of an
emergency. I think there are some good

1632
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:54,640
points in the letter uh which is why I
forwarded it to uh Steve Murphy and I'm

1633
02:19:52,240 --> 02:20:00,240
looking for the uh the entire county to
have a discussion on if there's further

1634
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:02,560
steps that we should consider.
>> Yeah, that's great.

1635
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:06,240
» Thank you. Thank you. That's great.
Good.

1636
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:10,800
» Okay. So, so thank you Melinda. And I
want my

1637
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:16,120
two that I submitted to want to speak to
was uh 15 and 21. So number 15,

1638
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:23,399
» right? So

1639
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:30,560
what this does
is it means that any property that we

1640
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:35,760
had identified
as having potential for heritage

1641
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:44,880
designation
can now be as of January 27th

1642
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:51,040
destroyed without us being informed.
So,

1643
02:20:46,960 --> 02:21:00,080
um perhaps if we can
somehow convince people to want to rally

1644
02:20:54,800 --> 02:21:06,319
around doing more uh designations
uh of those that are in the top of those

1645
02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:12,000
that we don't want to see lost and those
that we think are at the greatest

1646
02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:17,040
threat. Um that's that's the the fallout
of this. Can I ask a question on that? U

1647
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:20,560
go ahead. To
>> to do that, we we would need a heritage

1648
02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:24,160
committee. Do we still have a heritage
committee?

1649
02:21:21,359 --> 02:21:28,319
» We would have to reestablish a heritage
committee,

1650
02:21:25,359 --> 02:21:32,800
» but but we we only have 3 months to do
that in

1651
02:21:31,439 --> 02:21:35,280
» they can work fast.
>> Okay.

1652
02:21:33,439 --> 02:21:40,399
» Okay.
The the other suggestion that has been

1653
02:21:37,359 --> 02:21:47,120
made by um members of the former former
members of the heritage committee would

1654
02:21:42,800 --> 02:21:52,640
be to um uh create a a list of historic
properties of interest

1655
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:54,080
to replace what was here to for on the
registry.

1656
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:58,160
» Mhm.
>> And I sort of like that idea. I think it

1657
02:21:56,399 --> 02:22:02,960
should be voluntary. I don't think it
will be a hard uh hard cell to get

1658
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:09,840
people who are formally part of the
registry to uh participate but at least

1659
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:15,280
it would uh uh create a record of what
uh we had um uh previously designated

1660
02:22:13,359 --> 02:22:22,000
for purposes of the registry
>> right and we don't lose that

1661
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:26,640
we lose the fact that it's listed
identified somewhere but we still have

1662
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:31,760
the list of those properties it's not
like that disappears. But I like that

1663
02:22:28,960 --> 02:22:38,240
idea and I was thinking similarly, we
did once upon a time do this, held an

1664
02:22:34,160 --> 02:22:44,240
open house and invited people who were
on the list to come and voluntarily step

1665
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:50,319
up to have their property designated. So
if we wanted to, but that's a commitment

1666
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:56,000
in financial terms that we haven't
budgeted for

1667
02:22:52,479 --> 02:23:01,840
necessarily. if like 10 of those people
come forward, we're looking at money and

1668
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:09,840
um anyway, it's it's worth having a
little more review on and maybe um

1669
02:23:07,359 --> 02:23:15,120
maybe going back to some of those
individuals that were

1670
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:21,920
uh on a heritage committee and
reinstating a heritage committee and

1671
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:26,800
inviting people to um to come together.
In fact, I'm not sure we actually need a

1672
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:31,680
heritage committee to designate
properties, but Fred or Jessica will

1673
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:38,640
correct me on that.
>> Uh if council establishes a uh heritage

1674
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:42,240
committee, then it's been delegated to
that committee. However, if council

1675
02:23:40,479 --> 02:23:46,399
doesn't establish such a committee,
council still has the authority under

1676
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:50,160
the act to designate properties. Right.
>> They would just have to have some other

1677
02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:51,520
resources.
>> Yes. Yes.

1678
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:55,359
» Do the paperwork.
>> Right. Thank you.

1679
02:23:53,439 --> 02:24:00,880
» Uh Ralph,
um so Ela and I have had this

1680
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:05,600
conversation a little bit. Um and the uh
I think you're you're right. We do have

1681
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:11,280
a list and but that becomes unofficial
after this and hope it's in somebody's

1682
02:24:08,560 --> 02:24:17,280
portfolio somewhere. Um, but I think
that the idea of having a spe a special

1683
02:24:14,479 --> 02:24:21,760
um list of properties of interest is is
a is a good one because that would be a

1684
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:26,399
come a private list of our our town at
all and it's not that not regulated by

1685
02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:30,640
regulation and it would just be
something that we've done for ourselves

1686
02:24:28,399 --> 02:24:35,600
and we would uh I think that would
probably provide some ability to follow

1687
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:39,040
up with in a meaningful way. What I
thought

1688
02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:42,800
» I thought that this new thing that's
happening in January 1st is that if it

1689
02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:46,319
hasn't if a propertyy's on a list and it
hasn't been designated by that date,

1690
02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:48,880
you're not going to be able to do it.
That was the point.

1691
02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:52,240
» No, they're actually they're actually
abolishing the the registry.

1692
02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:56,080
» Yeah. So
>> abolishing that list.

1693
02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:59,439
» Well, that that's right. So abolishing
the list means we can't have like I'm

1694
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:05,200
not quite sure what we can do.
>> I I I I disagree. I think we can have

1695
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:11,120
our own our own list of notable
properties. Um it doesn't have the

1696
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:17,600
strength or or it's not binding uh in
the same way that uh it used to be, but

1697
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:23,359
it becomes a record of historic
historically significant properties in

1698
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:27,439
the town. And I'm happy to indicate that
I'll bring them I'm going to do a notice

1699
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:33,439
of motion for the next meeting to create
such a list.

1700
02:25:28,960 --> 02:25:40,080
» Right. So Melinda to to your point
what happens with the January 12 27th

1701
02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:47,359
date is those properties are not now
considered under that provincial uh

1702
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:52,399
legislation to be listed and therefore
that they couldn't be demolished. That's

1703
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:58,640
the only thing. So what will happen is
that disappears but we could have our

1704
02:25:55,439 --> 02:26:03,680
that same list and keep that list. We
just wouldn't be notified if any of

1705
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:09,600
those properties sought a building
permit and demolition permit. That's the

1706
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:13,920
change. So, we can still keep those.
>> So, but list of names or properties.

1707
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:17,680
» Great. But what are we going to what are
we going to what are we going to do with

1708
02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:23,040
it? The ultimate uh point of the list I
thought was I properties that were of

1709
02:26:20,399 --> 02:26:27,680
interest. So that then and they had
hundreds of them so that then they would

1710
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:31,840
go through ultimately in due course not
knowing that that the there was some

1711
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:36,560
sort of a deadline so close that they
would go through them in due course and

1712
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:40,399
actually not just register them but
definitely designate them.

1713
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:45,680
» Yes, that's true. So, but you're not
even allowed to do that anymore because

1714
02:26:42,880 --> 02:26:49,920
you can designate them and that list
doesn't matter. We can now say that list

1715
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:54,640
isn't here. We'll create a new list.
It's the same list. And now we're going

1716
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:58,319
to use that list and we can determine we
can do an invitation out to the

1717
02:26:56,319 --> 02:27:02,560
community that's on that list. Open
house. See who wants to designate their

1718
02:27:00,880 --> 02:27:04,160
property.
>> Okay.

1719
02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:08,160
» And move forward. All right.
>> I don't I don't think it precludes uh

1720
02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:12,479
voluntary designations. If somebody
comes forward and says, "Uh,

1721
02:27:10,399 --> 02:27:17,200
» uh, I'd like to have my, uh, my home
designated," we would go through an

1722
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:21,600
investigation with a reconstituted
committee.

1723
02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:26,640
» Um, and we'd be guided by the fact that,
uh, uh, previously that property may or

1724
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:30,880
may not have been on the registry, which
no longer exists. And, uh, you know,

1725
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:35,760
governments change and maybe a registry
will come back. Who knows? I don't know

1726
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:39,520
why it's going away.
>> Yeah. Anyway, so

1727
02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:41,920
» because they want to dem
build more homes.

1728
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:45,280
» They want to allow people to demolish
properties. You're right. You're right.

1729
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:48,080
» New new homes. I have no idea.
>> Well, because they're appreciating that

1730
02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:51,280
they weren't supposed to take the green
belt. So, where else can we take some

1731
02:27:49,680 --> 02:27:55,920
land? Oh, right. Let's take land from
places that are already have houses on

1732
02:27:53,200 --> 02:28:00,399
them. I think I don't.
All right. Well, well, I mean, I I I uh

1733
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:05,439
this is was an extremely disappointing
thing to see that, you know, we've

1734
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:08,880
looked at your your um your comments on
a short period of time and we've decided

1735
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:11,120
not to, right? I mean, that's what the
letter said, which was very

1736
02:28:10,319 --> 02:28:16,080
disappointing.
>> Yeah. Thanks for your comments.

1737
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:20,600
» They're talking to themselves.
>> Okay. And then I had number 21.

1738
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:25,399
Let me get there.

1739
02:28:28,479 --> 02:28:35,120
Uh
I think this is timely.

1740
02:28:32,720 --> 02:28:42,479
There are so many municipalities being
asked to uh accept these data centers

1741
02:28:39,439 --> 02:28:48,960
and there are a lot of them being turned
away and causing uh like it's causing

1742
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:53,920
citizen concern. even here people are
reaching out to me and saying I heard

1743
02:28:51,600 --> 02:29:00,479
this was going to happen in in Mono and
I said no it's not that was Hamilton and

1744
02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:09,359
they turned it down anyway so I I do um
want to support that the county have

1745
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:16,399
uh a statement on any development
that we are not looking for data centers

1746
02:29:12,319 --> 02:29:23,840
they use a huge amount of water and
power and um I don't see that we

1747
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:26,880
shouldn't combine and talk about it.
>> Melinda,

1748
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:31,200
» thank you very much. Maria, this was on
my list only to comment that there's

1749
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:36,479
this big hoopla around about how it
takes a lot of water and and like the

1750
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:41,120
like the mega quarry that wants to go
below the water table up to try to get

1751
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:45,040
to try to get the lime limestone using
water, you know, and so therefore making

1752
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:50,319
us be worried about our water and having
just had the the recent um delegation

1753
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:55,280
regarding how, you know, there's only so
much. But for me, what really So, this

1754
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:58,240
is good. But for me, it's it's okay,
fine. Everybody makes a big stink about

1755
02:29:57,200 --> 02:30:01,760
how you're not supposed to use the
water. Well, then the engineers are just

1756
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:05,439
going to use air cooled stuff and
electric like they're going to change

1757
02:30:03,200 --> 02:30:09,680
and it will but it's still is the power
that is needed that our infrastructure

1758
02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:14,479
that there won't be enough power to
power our little um station in the

1759
02:30:12,479 --> 02:30:17,920
parking lot, right? I mean that that to
me that's what's really and it's going

1760
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:21,680
to be very expensive because if they do
need power if we do feel that we really

1761
02:30:19,840 --> 02:30:25,200
need this AI and we and this is the way
to go and we're going to not use water

1762
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:30,479
to cool it. We're going to we're going
to use um whatever heat pumps and things

1763
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:34,720
that are that use electricity then we
need to make more electricity

1764
02:30:32,960 --> 02:30:39,359
» and so then it's all going to be very
expensive. So I I would endorse this is

1765
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:43,120
I'm happy about that, but I want to see
the one that really talks also about

1766
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:46,479
that energy is a really important part
here that's going to be used.

1767
02:30:44,560 --> 02:30:51,439
» Well, there's more than than than simply
the water as you say. There's the

1768
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:56,240
energy, but there's also the persistent
hum that originates from these

1769
02:30:54,720 --> 02:31:01,600
structures.
And uh you know we we all know about

1770
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:07,920
windmills and and uh actually the the
generating stations that windmills rely

1771
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:13,280
on um emit a noise that is aggravating
to neighbors. But I have a question for

1772
02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:20,800
Mike and that is um somebody comes
through the door uh tomorrow and says I

1773
02:31:16,479 --> 02:31:27,600
want to build a you know 20,000 50,000
uh square foot warehouse.

1774
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:33,120
Uh and uh they put in the the right
paperwork and it it on the face of it it

1775
02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:37,840
looks just like a warehouse but at some
point they transitioned that into a data

1776
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:42,800
center.
Um, and they don't run a foul of our

1777
02:31:40,880 --> 02:31:49,200
official plan. They don't run a foul of
our zoning. Uh, because the uh property

1778
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:54,640
in in question is either currently
allows a warehouse or they make an

1779
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:58,960
application through the planning process
to create a warehouse and all of a

1780
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:04,640
sudden we have a data center. Am I too
conspiratorial on that?

1781
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:09,280
So warehouse would trigger us to think
commercial industrial immediately which

1782
02:32:06,880 --> 02:32:15,920
would uh only occur on a commercial
industrial zone property which is under

1783
02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:20,880
our I'll say OP under OP is under site
plane zoning is under site cycling

1784
02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:24,319
control. Um, so we would uh we would uh
run that warehouse through the uh

1785
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:30,800
through the ringer with site plane
control that's on title and that would

1786
02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:37,760
limit the uh limit the uses to the
current uses. Now

1787
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:45,600
some of our commercial property has a
definition for computer logistics

1788
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:52,240
but I think the definition is repair and
sales of computers. as an allowable. So,

1789
02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:57,120
our definitions definitely don't include
data centers um because they were not a

1790
02:32:54,720 --> 02:33:02,240
thing uh when we did our last OP, but
but it would be on title and they would

1791
02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:06,399
be bound by their uses and they would
have to stay in line with those uses,

1792
02:33:04,479 --> 02:33:10,160
allowable uses. So, and the square
footage definitely would fall under

1793
02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:13,439
zoning allowances.
>> But I'm I'm just wondering about a

1794
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:19,120
Trojan horse here.
>> Yeah, exactly. Site site plan. you're

1795
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:24,960
you're thinking
a barn on a property um being you know

1796
02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:29,760
we had a couple at the committee of
adjustment last week where they were

1797
02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:33,120
larger barns above what council and
that's why I think council gets the

1798
02:33:31,359 --> 02:33:38,000
opportunity or sorry committee of
adjustment gets the opportunity to

1799
02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:44,399
manage the square footage of of the uh
of the impact of all land whether it be

1800
02:33:40,240 --> 02:33:48,960
rural and or uh or uh urban commercial
zone. Yeah,

1801
02:33:45,680 --> 02:33:55,280
» rural a is sort of caught under this uh
council of the day said uh uh you know

1802
02:33:51,760 --> 02:34:00,880
if you're if you're wanting to put uh I
forget the number 600 m squared more

1803
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:04,720
than 600 m squared of of uh coverage on
your property you have to come to the

1804
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:11,280
committee of adjustment and speak to
>> the committee of adjustment isn't going

1805
02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:16,720
to stop somebody from um obstensively
building a warehouse and then all of a

1806
02:34:12,960 --> 02:34:21,439
sudden it's populated with uh with uh
computer equipment and and massive

1807
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:26,000
cooling and humming and electricity.
>> So if zoned rural bylaw would have the

1808
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:29,200
right under the zoning bylaw to uh to
require a site plan agreement.

1809
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:36,080
» So I guess the bottom line is do we need
to say in our official plan uh that a

1810
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:39,920
data center data center center as
defined

1811
02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:44,160
is is not a permissible use in the town
of Mono. I would agree there's

1812
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:49,760
definitely wording with respect to water
takings um and uh and so forth, but

1813
02:34:48,160 --> 02:34:55,600
there's definitely wording that should
occur uh for a whole slew of new new

1814
02:34:53,359 --> 02:34:59,680
things in our OP and in our zoning
allowances. So, councelor Capes, is it

1815
02:34:57,920 --> 02:35:03,200
your wish that we endorse the the
Orangeville uh motion? We can have a

1816
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:08,560
simple motion of
>> Yes, please. And I think that's really

1817
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:14,080
good what um our CEO just said and we
can expand that beyond water as Melinda

1818
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:20,080
was saying to include power
power, you know, use or

1819
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:25,920
» I think it's a big deal.
>> So we need a we need a a motion on the

1820
02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:30,800
floor moved by seconded by
uh Ralph uh that we support the uh the

1821
02:35:28,880 --> 02:35:35,439
Orangeville
uh motion.

1822
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:39,520
We have a motion prepared that we could
suggest for council

1823
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:43,520
» that council for the town of Mono
supports and endorses the resolution

1824
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:47,840
passed by the town of Orangeville
calling on the county of Duffren to

1825
02:35:45,200 --> 02:35:52,319
undertake a comprehensive review of the
potential advantages and disadvantages

1826
02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:55,040
of new data centers.
>> I so move.

1827
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:58,560
» Thank you. So we have a mover in a
second or any opposition

1828
02:35:56,319 --> 02:36:01,840
» discussion. Oh, go ahead. Um, when I
first heard when I first heard about

1829
02:35:59,920 --> 02:36:06,319
this, I thought, well, this isn't
Colorado, which is going to be draining

1830
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:10,080
some big river and these things are
probably not going to come here. But I

1831
02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:15,680
looked up something called ontario data
centers.ca

1832
02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:20,240
and there are 18 applications filed in
the area surrounding uh the greater

1833
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:23,920
greater Toronto area up to Bmpton.
Nothing above that. But so this is

1834
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:29,280
something that's on the move. So, I
think it's important that we uh that we

1835
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:32,479
carry on with this uh motion. I approve
of it. So, we're passing it over to

1836
02:36:30,880 --> 02:36:38,880
Duffren County expecting them to come up
with a a some solutions. Okay.

1837
02:36:36,960 --> 02:36:41,760
» Thank you, Linda.
>> Just a little comment about the whole

1838
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:45,680
size thing. Do you remember when
computers first came out and they were

1839
02:36:43,439 --> 02:36:49,040
all in a big huge room and it was a
whole bunch of stuff and now we all

1840
02:36:46,880 --> 02:36:53,680
carry it in our pocket. This whole idea
that you know we have used so much that

1841
02:36:51,200 --> 02:36:56,960
we need these. what was the one that the
Mr. Wonderful was doing the size of

1842
02:36:55,520 --> 02:37:00,000
Manhattan or whatever. there's a whole
conglomer bunch of buildings and

1843
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:05,120
everything and you just think about yeah
when they invent something in a few

1844
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:09,439
decades and then all those buildings are
useless right what are you going to do

1845
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:13,840
with them so thinking ahead I think is
very important that the that as you say

1846
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:18,800
this to to be in our zoning that you can
only come yes come in here make a make a

1847
02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:23,840
um a warehouse but it can only be so big
right

1848
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:30,160
» okay uh no other discussion any
opposition to the motion seeing on it

1849
02:37:26,399 --> 02:37:32,399
carries. Uh, anything else? Uh, Elaine?
>> Okay, Fred,

1850
02:37:30,880 --> 02:37:36,399
» that was it for me. Thank you so much.
>> Anything from schedule A?

1851
02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:42,319
» Yeah, I had two items. One was item
number six, and that is a letter from

1852
02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:47,120
the county asking the town of Mono to
help them or at least to reach out to

1853
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:51,280
the town of Mon for input to their
official plan number five. And I have no

1854
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:55,760
problem with them reaching out and
asking us for input to this process. But

1855
02:37:53,840 --> 02:38:00,080
I have one concern with the whole
official plan amendment number five

1856
02:37:57,280 --> 02:38:05,439
process. And that is that they will be
um coming up with a new plan and looking

1857
02:38:02,560 --> 02:38:10,479
at uh residential land and employment
land. We already know that in their

1858
02:38:08,399 --> 02:38:14,479
written comments they're looking at the
expanding the boundaries of the town of

1859
02:38:12,399 --> 02:38:18,880
Orangeville and all that's fine. But I
in my humbleable view and I'm going to

1860
02:38:16,880 --> 02:38:22,880
sound like a broken record here. They're
missing something in the process which

1861
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:27,439
is yes that do a land need to study
study and the numbers are this.

1862
02:38:25,280 --> 02:38:32,319
Originally Duff County was to look at a
population of 95,000 by 2051.

1863
02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:37,120
That number has changed several times.
It went up to 117,000 and now it's back

1864
02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:41,439
down to 97,000. It doesn't matter. Most
of that population growth will be in the

1865
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:46,479
town of Orangeville which has service
services. My concern is that before we

1866
02:38:44,399 --> 02:38:49,439
start changing the official plan and
planning for this increase in

1867
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:53,280
population, we should be looking at the
question of as to whether or not we have

1868
02:38:50,960 --> 02:38:57,760
the water resources to do it. All the
wells in Orangeville, I think except one

1869
02:38:55,439 --> 02:39:01,520
have a water quantity threat. If if you
read the latest study and the

1870
02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:05,439
presentation we had from Benham from the
Credit Valley Conservation and our

1871
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:09,280
Cardinal Woods wells have a water
quantity threat. Now, I know there's

1872
02:39:06,960 --> 02:39:13,280
proposed solutions, but in my humble
view, these wells are all drawing from

1873
02:39:11,359 --> 02:39:18,160
the same aquifer, which is fine. And if
the hydro geologists tell us that they

1874
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:23,120
can withstand the new population
increase, then I'm happy. My my comment

1875
02:39:20,479 --> 02:39:26,800
is though that we we we're missing a
step in official plan number five. We

1876
02:39:24,880 --> 02:39:31,600
should look at the water resources first
and then do the land need to study

1877
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:35,840
assuming that we have enough land or
enough water for this population

1878
02:39:33,280 --> 02:39:38,479
increase. So, I'm in in agreement with
the letter that the Duff County has

1879
02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:44,680
written to the town of Monono. Reach out
and talk to us. But I think when we talk

1880
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:44,680
to them, we should make that point.

1881
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:52,000
» Good points. Um Fred, I think I to me
what stood out as when I wrote this down

1882
02:39:50,319 --> 02:39:59,600
is that we've been waiting when we talk
about um our unfinished business list,

1883
02:39:55,520 --> 02:40:05,680
we're waiting for uh Duffren before we
can then rejig ours, right? Am I wrong?

1884
02:40:03,040 --> 02:40:09,040
I'm I'm that's what I've been told. And
so the faster that they get organized

1885
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:11,680
and of course I think what happened was
that they were going they made different

1886
02:40:10,319 --> 02:40:14,560
a they made different amendments. We're
all okay and then oh no we need to do

1887
02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:18,479
something else. So Mono's been sitting
back on our big list of things waiting

1888
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:23,120
because there's no point in spending
effort and time on something that then

1889
02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:29,920
ends up in the grander scheme not being.
So um th this letter is saying but it's

1890
02:40:28,160 --> 02:40:35,280
not it's not because we're holding
anybody back, right? Like we're

1891
02:40:33,200 --> 02:40:43,439
» No, we're not we're not holding anybody
back. No. So I I I would uh um

1892
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:48,000
ask them to do it quickly so that we can
get on with everything else.

1893
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:52,160
» Not not wanting them to slow down. Maybe
they could use that plan amendment as an

1894
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:55,800
opportunity to address the issue of data
centers as well.

1895
02:40:55,920 --> 02:41:03,840
» I had I had a second item. Item number
seven I I pulled.

1896
02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:08,720
That's that's a report that I wrote. uh
note that it was dated July 11th and I

1897
02:41:06,399 --> 02:41:13,439
said that I've heard that the province
has appointed an executive director to

1898
02:41:10,960 --> 02:41:17,600
the new Western Lake Ontario Regional
Conservation Authority. Well, you will

1899
02:41:15,359 --> 02:41:24,399
note from item 14 now we know who that
person is and it's uh um I forget the

1900
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:29,040
name, Jacqueline Johnson. All I know
about her is that she's from Burlington,

1901
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:32,880
worked for Burlington. My only comment I
mean this may be good or bad. I don't

1902
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:36,800
know. It just I was surprised that the
person they've appointed as the

1903
02:41:34,080 --> 02:41:41,040
executive director who will become the
CEO of the new regional conservation

1904
02:41:38,640 --> 02:41:45,280
authority for a term of up two years has
no background in conservation

1905
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:49,680
authorities. That that was a concern.
But the other point I would draw your

1906
02:41:47,359 --> 02:41:53,840
attention to is the last paragraph in my
report of January the 11th where I talk

1907
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:58,800
about this modeling that Credit Valley
did. I I'm not competent enough to

1908
02:41:56,720 --> 02:42:03,840
remember all the details to tell you how
it works, but I was very impressed with

1909
02:42:00,319 --> 02:42:08,479
the presentation they made. And so, and
I've given you in my report some of the

1910
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:15,520
numbers of what they expect increases in
stream flows and temperatures and loss

1911
02:42:12,080 --> 02:42:18,000
of trees to anyway, the point is when
they gave the presentation, they said

1912
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:21,840
they're prepared to come out to
individual municipalities and give a

1913
02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:26,080
report and to narrow the modeling down
to more specific regions. So, I just

1914
02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:30,000
want to put on I don't have a motion. I
just want to tell staff and any of you

1915
02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:33,680
counselors who are going to be here in
the new term that I think we should be

1916
02:42:31,760 --> 02:42:38,560
thinking of inviting these people to
make a presentation to the town of Mono

1917
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:44,160
sometime early in 2027. It's a very
intriguing modeling process they've gone

1918
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:50,560
through. Thank thank you.
Uh just uh from the uh from schedule A

1919
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:55,439
uh I had identified item number 17 the
letter from the solicitor general with

1920
02:42:52,240 --> 02:43:01,520
regard to next year's policing costs. Uh
and I found it interesting that uh they

1921
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:06,800
are um promising a a ceiling of of not
more than 11%.

1922
02:43:03,920 --> 02:43:12,319
Uh I went back to last year's letter
which said exactly the same thing. There

1923
02:43:09,040 --> 02:43:16,960
was it was it was cut and paste and it
wasn't uh it wasn't there was no room in

1924
02:43:14,960 --> 02:43:22,000
the last year for something less than
11%. It became 11%. And I predict that

1925
02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:27,520
this is the same thing even though
they're sort of hinting that it might be

1926
02:43:23,600 --> 02:43:33,280
less than 11% and they also saying that
this is a timelimited uh uh time limited

1927
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:38,080
thing. Well, it's time limited until the
year following it becomes 11% again. I

1928
02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:42,160
guess I don't know. I I would just point
out

1929
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:43,439
» so that makes it a 44% in the last three
or four years.

1930
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:48,240
» Yes.
>> Because it was 22% one previous year.

1931
02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:53,120
» That's correct. And and I mean, you
know, we need the policing and we need

1932
02:43:50,240 --> 02:43:58,000
more policing. Uh what bothers me is
that we do not have the offset revenue

1933
02:43:55,200 --> 02:44:03,439
that we deserve to offset the increase
in policing costs. What bothers me uh

1934
02:44:01,200 --> 02:44:09,120
your honor is the we have no explanation
for why we have a 44 44% increase in

1935
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:14,000
pleasing costs in in 3 years. Do you
have any information about that?

1936
02:44:10,640 --> 02:44:17,520
» The year one was 20 around 22% and that
was as a result of a collective

1937
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:21,200
agreement with the OP officers.
>> Okay.

1938
02:44:18,160 --> 02:44:25,200
» Uh what constituted last year I don't
know and what constitutes next year I

1939
02:44:23,600 --> 02:44:29,200
don't know.
>> So okay.

1940
02:44:27,120 --> 02:44:33,279
» Okay. thinking that maybe positive
things that maybe by giving them more

1941
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:37,279
money they'll be able to give us more
police cuz I'm really disappointed that

1942
02:44:35,279 --> 02:44:42,000
when we had a terrific person who
retired and was on part-time and so on

1943
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:46,319
and we tried to hold our our guns to say
that no we we do need police in our in

1944
02:44:44,720 --> 02:44:49,359
our community and we were to we were
they just sat here and they said no we

1945
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:52,080
can't no you can't and so it's kind of
like well why can't you well we can't

1946
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:56,000
find the people and you know good help
is hard to find so I do understand the

1947
02:44:54,160 --> 02:45:00,640
actual logistics of the person who needs
to hire people It's tricky but then you

1948
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:04,160
come back to like okay well if you have
more money maybe people are going to

1949
02:45:02,319 --> 02:45:07,520
come and I mean the the hospital was
telling us the same thing recruiting

1950
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:10,880
right it's about money right so it so
hopefully maybe maybe to think

1951
02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:14,600
positively
>> I'll be asking tomorrow

1952
02:45:14,960 --> 02:45:22,640
» I I was just going to add I too am
surprised by this letter but I wanted to

1953
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:27,359
add a side note that and I can't find
the numbers but I did the calculation

1954
02:45:24,160 --> 02:45:31,359
once our fire services costs have also
increased I think over the last decade

1955
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:34,880
by an average annual increase of
something like 16% a year. I don't quote

1956
02:45:33,680 --> 02:45:39,120
me on that number but it's something
like that. So between policing and fire

1957
02:45:37,120 --> 02:45:42,319
services I'm I'm putting that on the
record because I know some of our

1958
02:45:40,240 --> 02:45:48,040
residents are surprised when they find
we have to raise taxes but we have no

1959
02:45:44,479 --> 02:45:48,040
control over this.

1960
02:45:49,840 --> 02:45:53,680
» That being said I
>> That's all you were going to talk about?

1961
02:45:52,479 --> 02:46:00,399
» That's all I was going to talk about.
Ralph, anything? Uh just one. It's uh

1962
02:45:56,880 --> 02:46:06,319
number uh 23, the last one. The single
use of propane cylinders. It sounds like

1963
02:46:03,279 --> 02:46:12,479
um this is legislatively has been
handled, but practically it's not in

1964
02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:18,720
place. And um I'd like to have a motion
that we support this uh this request. Uh

1965
02:46:15,920 --> 02:46:23,040
at the moment it's a it's a uh recovery
authority uh is uh supposed to take care

1966
02:46:21,120 --> 02:46:26,880
of this and uh but the problem is there
aren't enough stations for you to take

1967
02:46:24,399 --> 02:46:30,399
your propane cylinders.
>> So my proposal is that we have a motion

1968
02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:35,120
that supports this.
>> So we have a a seconder and u councelor

1969
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:38,399
Davey
>> I I think that's a good idea. I looked

1970
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:40,880
at it and had to look at single propane.
How many of those do I have in my

1971
02:46:39,520 --> 02:46:45,359
basement from the various things that I
from camping and whatever? And so the a

1972
02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:49,840
quick little review there are and in
fact being with more people who are

1973
02:46:46,880 --> 02:46:53,520
maggyvery type people. Um refilling them
has is illegal and don't do it on the on

1974
02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:58,399
the green ones that you just buy and
don't do that. However, they are making

1975
02:46:56,080 --> 02:47:02,479
ones that are the cuz they're handy size
to have. They fit into certain machines

1976
02:47:00,399 --> 02:47:07,760
that you have and so on. And they do
have refillable ones now. And so I would

1977
02:47:04,640 --> 02:47:10,960
appeal to us all to not buy the $6
regular one at the Canadian Tire because

1978
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:16,080
then what are you going to do with it?
it's a problem, but to to seek out the

1979
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:21,680
more expensive one that you can reuse
for a few years as a you know idea.

1980
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:25,760
» That's a good point. Try to find them.
They're hard to find. We have one. It's

1981
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:28,399
about this big that we take camping to
hook up to our camp stove.

1982
02:47:27,279 --> 02:47:32,240
» These ones that I were seeing are
exactly the same. And probably it's one

1983
02:47:30,479 --> 02:47:35,840
of those needing to order online things
as opposed to going. But also, you know,

1984
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:38,880
if you go to our regular stores, I mean,
if you go into the supermarket here and

1985
02:47:37,279 --> 02:47:42,720
you ask for, you know, a certain type of
cheese that they don't have, they do

1986
02:47:40,160 --> 02:47:46,479
endeavor to bring what they what their
patrons want.

1987
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:49,760
» We got one, but they're hard to come by.
>> Jessica, do you have a handy wording for

1988
02:47:48,640 --> 02:47:53,120
us?
>> Uh, yes. And I will note that the

1989
02:47:51,359 --> 02:47:57,680
clerk's department did reach out to
Duffren County, uh, the manager of waste

1990
02:47:55,520 --> 02:48:02,000
services for an opinion, but we did not
hear back.

1991
02:47:59,600 --> 02:48:06,399
» We'll chase them down for you.
Uh that council for the town of Mono

1992
02:48:04,000 --> 02:48:10,720
supports and endorses the letter from
the township of Tutor and Castle calling

1993
02:48:09,279 --> 02:48:14,640
on the Ministry of Environment,
Conservation and Parks to undertake a

1994
02:48:12,880 --> 02:48:19,600
review of the current regulatory
framework governing one pound single-use

1995
02:48:17,520 --> 02:48:22,880
propane cylinders.
>> Thank you. Any opposition to that?

1996
02:48:21,920 --> 02:48:25,040
» That motion carries.
>> You needed a secondary.

1997
02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:26,960
» Um I had one.
>> We did. Yeah.

1998
02:48:26,240 --> 02:48:31,439
» Okay.
>> Yeah, it's good. Um okay. Excuse me.

1999
02:48:30,960 --> 02:48:36,479
Yes,
>> your worship. If I can uh if I can just

2000
02:48:34,319 --> 02:48:42,640
mention item 20
>> on schedule A. Is is council interested

2001
02:48:40,080 --> 02:48:45,120
in a uh proclamation to that effect
coming back?

2002
02:48:43,520 --> 02:48:48,000
» Yeah, that was on my list. I hadn't been
asked to use my list.

2003
02:48:46,240 --> 02:48:50,160
» My apologies. I didn't know you had a
list.

2004
02:48:48,720 --> 02:48:54,880
» We thought she'd already spoken.
>> No, on everybody else's, yes, but not on

2005
02:48:52,399 --> 02:48:58,800
mine. That introduction.
>> So, yeah. So my my my big question

2006
02:48:56,960 --> 02:49:01,520
particularly because I brought forward
the flag thing that everybody didn't

2007
02:49:00,319 --> 02:49:07,840
understand what I was bringing forward
and just poo pooed the idea of uh

2008
02:49:04,640 --> 02:49:13,359
proclamations and how and how they give
an opportunity for education and and

2009
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:17,120
they um should be very diverse and and
include all of things. I thought gez I

2010
02:49:15,600 --> 02:49:21,840
don't when was the last time I went to
the dentist? if if somebody had told me

2011
02:49:20,319 --> 02:49:27,040
that there was a special day or
whatever, I might I might have have gone

2012
02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:32,319
more frequently. So, I I kind of think
that it might be it might be a good

2013
02:49:28,880 --> 02:49:37,040
idea. I was going to ask for if anybody
else thought that.

2014
02:49:34,560 --> 02:49:38,560
» We'll proclaim a particular day.
>> Sure.

2015
02:49:37,920 --> 02:49:41,520
» Why not?
>> Tommy Tooth Day.

2016
02:49:40,160 --> 02:49:45,040
» Yeah. Right. Right. Right. I mean
because because and you and we we just

2017
02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:48,960
but those are the kind when I was
thinking about the ebikes and stuff and

2018
02:49:46,399 --> 02:49:52,960
the e- scooters like where before social
media and before we were so divided in

2019
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:56,399
where we would get the news. You just
waited for the newspaper to arrive and

2020
02:49:54,800 --> 02:50:00,960
everybody read it and you like there was
a there was a source where nowadays

2021
02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:06,399
there's so many things. What is the
source that would be best to be able to

2022
02:50:03,760 --> 02:50:09,760
tell our our young people and because
you learned in school and you learned

2023
02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:15,359
that I don't think they're learning now
cuz there's so much other noise. Right.

2024
02:50:13,040 --> 02:50:18,640
» So proclamations that's right. Go
forward.

2025
02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:20,240
» The bicycle safety with Elmer the
elephant and

2026
02:50:19,439 --> 02:50:23,359
» Exactly.
>> Yes. And Tommy the tooth guy and all of

2027
02:50:22,399 --> 02:50:29,359
that good stuff.
>> Exactly. So do we need do do we

2028
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:30,880
» I don't think we need emotion. I don't
think we do.

2029
02:50:30,080 --> 02:50:33,600
» Direction of stuff.
>> Direction of stuff.

2030
02:50:32,080 --> 02:50:36,720
» Cuz now it's my turn, right? So, I had a
couple.

2031
02:50:34,640 --> 02:50:45,279
» So, the other one that I had was along
the same kind of lines and it was number

2032
02:50:40,560 --> 02:50:49,760
um 22 about the um British home
children.

2033
02:50:47,120 --> 02:50:52,399
And so, did you did everybody get an
opport It was a very long list. Did

2034
02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:58,000
everybody get an opportunity to read
this? because it's very interesting that

2035
02:50:55,200 --> 02:51:05,359
this um
uh municipality is asking that um that

2036
02:51:02,399 --> 02:51:10,479
the the the federal government make an
apology to for for previous wrongs. And

2037
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:14,560
I and I you know I understand that and
so on. But the interesting thing is that

2038
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:19,520
when you dig into it, they already did
and they did it way back in uh 2017. It

2039
02:51:18,080 --> 02:51:25,600
was acknowledged in the House of Commons
and then in 2018 the parliament passed

2040
02:51:22,319 --> 02:51:32,319
that this September 28th was going to be
pro proclaimed as BHC day. Um and then

2041
02:51:29,200 --> 02:51:37,359
20 and that was ahead of 2019 being the
150th anniversary of when they first

2042
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:42,160
started shipping kids over here um in
the in the face of that life would be

2043
02:51:39,439 --> 02:51:48,479
better but in actual fact as as labor,
right? So I I was wondering if again

2044
02:51:45,439 --> 02:51:51,600
maybe um I don't know that we need to to
ask the prime minister to do anything.

2045
02:51:50,080 --> 02:51:54,880
Stuff's already been done. So I didn't
think that we need to necessarily

2046
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:59,359
endorse their thing. But again an
opportunity that this is another

2047
02:51:56,479 --> 02:52:03,840
community. I was a little surprised that
they still say when they're modeling the

2048
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:10,720
numbers that one in 10 of us has a
relative that this affected,

2049
02:52:06,479 --> 02:52:16,080
» which is wow. Um, so I I was going to
ask if we could proclaim September 28th

2050
02:52:13,359 --> 02:52:20,960
um British Home Children's Day to in
recognition of this.

2051
02:52:18,880 --> 02:52:23,680
» Oh,
well yeah. So that's the broad my

2052
02:52:22,319 --> 02:52:27,279
broader question then is to the new
clerk like how does all of this

2053
02:52:25,359 --> 02:52:32,960
proclamation stuff happen and where do
we you know where do we really make a a

2054
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:37,920
real um complete schedule for our year
of of really acknowledging things?

2055
02:52:34,960 --> 02:52:44,960
That's what I that's what I'd like.
So just for for Jessica's information

2056
02:52:41,439 --> 02:52:50,640
whether she caught it on the DEI agenda,
Council Cape's about two weeks ahead of

2057
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:54,880
you, I think, on uh or a month ahead of
you cuz the DEI committee is looking at

2058
02:52:52,479 --> 02:52:59,520
our proclamations right now and making
sure that we're inclusive and and we

2059
02:52:56,880 --> 02:53:05,920
have an appropriate amount. I have ident
identified to the uh committee though

2060
02:53:02,080 --> 02:53:13,200
that you know council can't be reading
17 proclamations per meeting. Um but a

2061
02:53:09,760 --> 02:53:18,560
monthly uh a monthly uh input is not uh
unreasonable at all. and and I think uh

2062
02:53:16,479 --> 02:53:23,439
once the DEI committee is done with
their review um councelor Capes actually

2063
02:53:21,600 --> 02:53:29,040
is working with one of the members on
the committee not working with but

2064
02:53:25,359 --> 02:53:33,279
discussing with and uh and I think uh I
think it'll help uh it's a it's a nice

2065
02:53:31,040 --> 02:53:37,600
list already. It is a good list and Fred
could or Jessica could decide to bring

2066
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:42,080
it back in its form now or council could
wait for uh the DEI committee to have a

2067
02:53:40,720 --> 02:53:45,359
wait for the committee. Yeah,
>> we can wait just as these things come up

2068
02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:50,800
and this was a particularly long
schedule A, but as these things come up

2069
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:54,880
on the on our uh radar, it's like, oh
yeah, maybe that's maybe that's worth um

2070
02:53:52,720 --> 02:53:57,680
looking at too to be um
>> and I think I'll recommend I'll

2071
02:53:56,240 --> 02:54:02,960
recommend to the DEI committee that
maybe we set up a maximum. You know,

2072
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:06,800
eventually something has to give.
You can't keep adding can't keep adding.

2073
02:54:04,960 --> 02:54:11,760
So eventually we'll have to give, right?
So what's the rotationary uh process?

2074
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:16,800
» Okay. Well, but this is an interesting
thing, too. So, in the in the 4-year

2075
02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:20,880
term, you have four September 28s come
up. Like, does every September 28 like

2076
02:54:19,279 --> 02:54:25,920
do do you have to keep declaring it all
of the time or is it acknowledgement

2077
02:54:23,359 --> 02:54:29,920
already to be declaring it? So, because
I do think then this is this was my

2078
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:36,560
point about the flags. If you really do
embrace everybody for everything, then

2079
02:54:33,600 --> 02:54:40,160
there's more than 365 days in the year.
>> Right.

2080
02:54:37,040 --> 02:54:44,880
» Right. And I believe we declare National
Public Works Week and we have a few we

2081
02:54:43,359 --> 02:54:48,880
have a few few of them that are
repetitive on an annual basis.

2082
02:54:47,600 --> 02:54:50,560
» Um all of them are
>> they're all annual.

2083
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:54,399
» They're all annual.
>> So maybe they don't need to be annual to

2084
02:54:52,160 --> 02:55:00,080
have given some to to given
>> to have given a entity or a group or or

2085
02:54:58,240 --> 02:55:03,520
you know community whatever to to have
been given them respect doesn't

2086
02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:06,880
necessarily mean it has to be
repetitive. I think

2087
02:55:04,960 --> 02:55:12,479
» um Elaine.
>> So we'll take that back to the committee

2088
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:17,520
as well, but but Duffren County has a
good proclamation process because I've

2089
02:55:14,880 --> 02:55:23,439
used it to ask them to give
proclamations for things and then they

2090
02:55:20,880 --> 02:55:28,800
issue a certificate
and then those certificates I used to

2091
02:55:25,439 --> 02:55:33,200
post on a specific website to recognize
the proclamations that were done. Uhoh,

2092
02:55:30,960 --> 02:55:36,080
there's a rolling eyes over there. I'm
so sorry. More work for staff.

2093
02:55:35,200 --> 02:55:40,399
» No, it's just a button.
>> But but it's something that we could put

2094
02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:47,279
up on our
website on our through our social media.

2095
02:55:43,920 --> 02:55:52,240
It's just a picture of that proclamation
about that day. It doesn't have to

2096
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:55,840
involve a huge thing, but they're easy
enough to read at a council meeting.

2097
02:55:54,080 --> 02:56:00,720
Anyway, we can talk about all of that
stuff in the DEI meeting. I think you

2098
02:55:58,319 --> 02:56:04,600
might have some support if we included a
deputy clerk's day.

2099
02:56:07,279 --> 02:56:10,240
» On that happy note, anything else,
Melinda?

2100
02:56:09,359 --> 02:56:15,760
» Oh, that's good.
>> Uh, no, that was it on my list. Thanks.

2101
02:56:12,080 --> 02:56:20,960
» Okay, and that takes us to reports of
council and staff. Less, anything for

2102
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:26,479
us? Thank you, Matt. Anything for us?
>> Don't we have to pass?

2103
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:28,960
» We passed it. Let's get schedule A. Uh,
>> okay.

2104
02:56:26,960 --> 02:56:31,040
» Yeah. Did we pass schedule A or did we
pass?

2105
02:56:29,279 --> 02:56:35,920
» The vote has not been dealt with.
>> My apologies. Uh, there is a motion on

2106
02:56:32,800 --> 02:56:41,359
the floor. All in favor of schedule A
carried.

2107
02:56:37,439 --> 02:56:46,160
Uh, back to uh staff
and mindful that staff at any time can

2108
02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:51,120
reach out to us by way of email to give
us uh updates and reports. So, it

2109
02:56:48,800 --> 02:56:55,840
doesn't have to wait until a verbal
report.

2110
02:56:53,200 --> 02:57:00,080
Uh Kimberly.
>> Okay. Jessica,

2111
02:56:58,399 --> 02:57:05,359
» nothing to report.
>> Oh gosh. Uh Fred,

2112
02:57:02,960 --> 02:57:09,760
» I have nothing. Your worship.
>> Michael, nothing. Sorry, I've been uh

2113
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:13,680
might be a little bit ahead of you with
the clerk uh discussions I've had with

2114
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:18,399
the clerk with respect to the verbal
reports and uh and I really want uh

2115
02:57:16,560 --> 02:57:24,399
transparency and if it's not on the
agenda, the verbal report becomes a

2116
02:57:21,359 --> 02:57:29,279
non-transparent item. Uh so I want staff
to reach out to you by emails. Um I

2117
02:57:27,359 --> 02:57:33,600
think it's important and if you see it
of a significant uh item that should be

2118
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:37,520
on the agenda, it should come on as a
memo at least on schedule A. Um, I want

2119
02:57:36,080 --> 02:57:42,399
to work continue to work through the
transparency side of things and verbal

2120
02:57:40,080 --> 02:57:47,520
verbal surprise reports are
unfortunately not transparent.

2121
02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:52,800
» That's a good point.
>> Okay. So, no more reports.

2122
02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:55,520
» I'm a bit confused. Mike, what is a
verbal

2123
02:57:54,319 --> 02:58:00,640
report? Is that what we're doing?
>> Microphone.

2124
02:57:58,399 --> 02:58:03,760
» Yeah. So, so as we work through the
process, we'll get through it. It

2125
02:58:02,240 --> 02:58:07,760
doesn't stop council for talking about
their day-to-day because the public

2126
02:58:05,200 --> 02:58:14,000
really needs to hear that. But councelor
or deputy Nicks does submit minutes for

2127
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:19,920
his uh and overview documents that go
into schedule A. Um what I'm saying is

2128
02:58:17,040 --> 02:58:24,800
if if staff is to talk about a grant
that we received it was or or an item

2129
02:58:22,960 --> 02:58:30,080
say wastewater treatment for example
with Matt uh wouldn't be it's not uh

2130
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:35,439
nobody nobody knows it's going to be
there and if residents are following for

2131
02:58:32,960 --> 02:58:40,319
wastewater treatment plan updates uh
they're going to miss Matt's uh

2132
02:58:37,200 --> 02:58:46,160
discussion and uh Matt can provide uh
updates uh via email uh I can provide

2133
02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:50,000
updates via email and uh and we'll work
through it. If something's of major

2134
02:58:47,760 --> 02:58:55,760
significance, council will hear about it
and if it's time sensitive. Um but by

2135
02:58:53,120 --> 02:59:00,640
not putting items on the agenda, it just
it just it knocks down the transparency

2136
02:58:58,240 --> 02:59:04,720
of what we're trying to approve here and
and the clerk and I will work with the

2137
02:59:02,800 --> 02:59:09,840
procedural bylaw as we as we move
through things.

2138
02:59:07,359 --> 02:59:14,960
» I love it. Uh but I I love it. But it
but just the logistically

2139
02:59:12,560 --> 02:59:18,240
if you the email thing is tricky, right?
Because you said so if you so if

2140
02:59:16,640 --> 02:59:22,319
something comes up for a staff member
what you're suggesting

2141
02:59:20,319 --> 02:59:28,319
and they feel that the council needs to
know they would send an email to us and

2142
02:59:25,279 --> 02:59:32,880
then if we thought it was something that
needed discussion because we can't have

2143
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:37,359
a discussion as a group on email because
that's not transparent. Then there would

2144
02:59:35,200 --> 02:59:41,120
be a request to put it on. That sounds a
little cumbersome. Why don't we just

2145
02:59:38,399 --> 02:59:44,240
make reports B? Everybody has to submit
something.

2146
02:59:41,520 --> 02:59:51,920
» Good point. I think that staff is uh is
uh staff should keep council informed of

2147
02:59:48,160 --> 02:59:56,479
uh of the daily of the year how they are
working through the things. Uh um should

2148
02:59:54,160 --> 03:00:00,399
give periodic updates to council where
they are in their capital and stuff. Um

2149
02:59:58,720 --> 03:00:04,880
but if there's a if there is an
information item, I believe it should

2150
03:00:01,840 --> 03:00:08,800
come in a short memo. Um and uh and and
and and

2151
03:00:07,120 --> 03:00:13,680
what I'm saying is I'm not limiting
council's option to say, "Hey, I think

2152
03:00:11,359 --> 03:00:17,359
we should be talking about that item and
would you mind?" And then staff can put

2153
03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:21,279
together a short meal
>> and and a staff email can also become

2154
03:00:19,600 --> 03:00:23,520
part of schedule A as well.
>> Um

2155
03:00:21,840 --> 03:00:27,279
» and then it gives us a chance and it
gives the public a chance to raise it.

2156
03:00:25,279 --> 03:00:33,439
» Yeah. Just it just keeps more control on
what the public is being told. It allows

2157
03:00:31,439 --> 03:00:41,680
the public to see what is being
discussed. Um, and uh, and it's easier

2158
03:00:37,760 --> 03:00:48,479
to to be more transparent that way.
So, because I had the pleasure of

2159
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:54,479
accessing citywide to get my fire
permit,

2160
03:00:50,880 --> 03:00:59,680
um I would be interested in knowing how
many

2161
03:00:56,479 --> 03:01:04,720
transactions come through citywide
from the public.

2162
03:01:02,560 --> 03:01:10,880
I would be interested in knowing what
they are because they are because the

2163
03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:14,880
complaints come through citywide too if
I'm not mistaken because I had the

2164
03:01:12,399 --> 03:01:21,279
pleasure of filling out five of those.
And so um I would be interested in

2165
03:01:18,479 --> 03:01:26,080
seeing reporting coming out of those
tools because we now have those tools

2166
03:01:23,520 --> 03:01:32,479
and I think this was mentioned in our
service delivery report done a little

2167
03:01:28,640 --> 03:01:41,520
while ago. I would also like to see uh
reports on outstanding um property

2168
03:01:38,560 --> 03:01:47,279
uh untidiness.
And invon they have a beautiful sign

2169
03:01:44,399 --> 03:01:51,040
that's huge and says it's your
responsibility to keep your property

2170
03:01:49,279 --> 03:01:55,439
tidy. I wanted to take a picture of it
and bring it here because I was like oh

2171
03:01:53,120 --> 03:02:02,160
yeah that's a good picture. Anyway, no
more signs. No more signs. Um but anyway

2172
03:01:59,439 --> 03:02:08,240
that kind of reporting I think gives
another level of transparency for people

2173
03:02:05,359 --> 03:02:13,520
to know exactly how much work is going
on like you know how many requests

2174
03:02:11,680 --> 03:02:20,319
through citywide are coming through that
have to be managed how many customer

2175
03:02:16,800 --> 03:02:25,840
client resident issues are being um
forwarded to staff and dealt with just

2176
03:02:23,680 --> 03:02:32,080
anyway I'll leave that for another day
but that's my thought council capes

2177
03:02:28,319 --> 03:02:36,960
Just a couple com um comments. Um we're
we're definitely in the input data phase

2178
03:02:34,160 --> 03:02:42,240
of city citywide right now trying to get
all staff and all departments uh to

2179
03:02:40,080 --> 03:02:49,200
utilizing it. The property standards
though is done through an annual uh or

2180
03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:56,000
by by semianual periodic uh report in
camera uh to council with respect to uh

2181
03:02:52,560 --> 03:03:01,279
open and close and uh and a detailed
report is is given uh with respect to

2182
03:02:58,800 --> 03:03:05,200
the number of complaints I believe in
open transparent council.

2183
03:03:03,040 --> 03:03:09,279
» Yeah. Um, so the individual addresses
though is done obviously in closed

2184
03:03:07,040 --> 03:03:13,040
session, but uh you'll you'll recall
that when I sat as director of public

2185
03:03:10,960 --> 03:03:20,240
works, there were some pie charts in one
of my water uh when I was uh trying to

2186
03:03:16,800 --> 03:03:25,279
establish the hiring of new employees.
uh we were in the very infancy of trying

2187
03:03:22,479 --> 03:03:31,920
to utilize citywide and and uh public
works is definitely the furthest along

2188
03:03:28,240 --> 03:03:37,359
uh in in uh in conjunction with bylaw
and uh and uh Cheyenne and and with

2189
03:03:35,120 --> 03:03:41,920
respect to fire permits and everything.
Um so those are our biggest data and

2190
03:03:39,840 --> 03:03:47,359
recreation's in its uh in its early
stages of uh of starting to uh input all

2191
03:03:45,520 --> 03:03:51,920
the records. Uh, so it's definitely
something that the goal, the end goal

2192
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:56,000
would be to create these pie charts for
council to see how many complaints, how

2193
03:03:54,319 --> 03:04:00,960
many are closed, how quickly they were
closed or outstanding ones that are

2194
03:03:58,000 --> 03:04:05,680
subject to budgetary or capital uh
capital requests from council. Um, but

2195
03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:09,680
yeah, it's definitely the intent and and
I think we may be a little premature

2196
03:04:07,600 --> 03:04:13,439
right now with our data entry point of
view. Um, but I can definitely speak to

2197
03:04:11,680 --> 03:04:17,439
the directors on how comfortable they
feel about kicking out something like

2198
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:21,359
that for perhaps budget session
discussions.

2199
03:04:19,120 --> 03:04:26,479
» That is great. Thank you very much.
Appreciate that, staff.

2200
03:04:23,520 --> 03:04:30,399
» Okay. Uh, that comes to our turn.
Melinda, anything to report?

2201
03:04:28,319 --> 03:04:34,640
» Well, it's been summer holidays and so
there haven't been as many I haven't

2202
03:04:32,399 --> 03:04:38,399
been to a fireboard meeting of either of
the fire boards. I haven't been to.

2203
03:04:36,160 --> 03:04:44,080
Tomorrow, tomorrow evening, we do have a
um a board meeting at the um Center

2204
03:04:41,680 --> 03:04:48,399
Duffren Recreation Center and there's um
our complex and there's there's

2205
03:04:45,920 --> 03:04:50,720
interesting stuff on the agenda. So, no
dull moments, but we haven't had the

2206
03:04:49,600 --> 03:04:55,439
meeting yet, so I can't tell you about
it. And Rack, we haven't had a meeting

2207
03:04:53,200 --> 03:04:59,200
or an event, though. I did see that RACK
has um the advertisements are going out

2208
03:04:57,680 --> 03:05:04,960
if you want to be if you want to have a
table at our um Christmas show um the

2209
03:05:02,560 --> 03:05:08,960
RNR in November. But yeah, I don't have
I haven't been uh haven't been at any

2210
03:05:07,680 --> 03:05:14,880
meetings, but I'm sure they're going to
pick up now.

2211
03:05:12,240 --> 03:05:21,600
» Well, uh thank you.
>> Uh two things. I appreciate um Mike. I

2212
03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:28,560
think he was sticking his finger in my
ribs a little bit there. Uh on but and I

2213
03:05:24,399 --> 03:05:31,920
do appreciate that uh MPG uh could do
with putting out an annual report which

2214
03:05:30,240 --> 03:05:36,240
was sort of summarized everything. I did
that at the beginning, but most recently

2215
03:05:34,160 --> 03:05:40,160
I've just been talking every 2 months or
so about what's going on. And uh there

2216
03:05:38,399 --> 03:05:44,720
are lots of things going on in the 10
years. In fact, at this moment, there's

2217
03:05:42,000 --> 03:05:51,200
a volunteer appreciation uh day
happening at uh the Jack and Gail uh

2218
03:05:47,680 --> 03:05:58,399
Barrett's place. Um so I I'll I'll do a
report. I think you're after me.

2219
03:05:55,120 --> 03:06:04,399
Yeah. Unconsciously maybe. Uh
>> guilty. I think the uh just a reminder

2220
03:06:01,359 --> 03:06:10,160
that the uh this uh climate action
committee's uh green festival will be

2221
03:06:06,880 --> 03:06:17,120
coming up in October. It's on a Sunday,
October the um 18th I think it is. Um

2222
03:06:15,200 --> 03:06:21,120
and uh the planning for that going along
very well. You'll start to see some uh

2223
03:06:19,279 --> 03:06:26,000
uh posters and various information out
there as we're going to do our best to

2224
03:06:22,960 --> 03:06:30,160
make it well known to the community.
>> Thank you. Um,

2225
03:06:28,240 --> 03:06:35,279
Elaine.
>> Well, as Melinda said, it's summer

2226
03:06:32,000 --> 03:06:39,840
vacation, so and and we don't always
meet every month. We meet when there's

2227
03:06:37,680 --> 03:06:45,760
business to do for the the fire
department, etc. But I did have a pen

2228
03:06:42,080 --> 03:06:53,279
hack meeting to review the um regulation
on large homes, and uh that went very

2229
03:06:49,760 --> 03:06:59,040
well. We're waiting to set another date
because we didn't come to the conclusion

2230
03:06:55,600 --> 03:07:06,080
of what we wanted to present to council.
So, I believe that uh Simey's working on

2231
03:07:02,560 --> 03:07:12,960
getting us together again soon,
hopefully before the end of this term,

2232
03:07:09,359 --> 03:07:15,680
so we can bring something forward.
So,

2233
03:07:15,520 --> 03:07:21,439
and
>> and I would hope that that any

2234
03:07:17,680 --> 03:07:27,439
recommendation that would uh create a
change in our zoning or or official plan

2235
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:31,359
uh is not going to be held up on things
like this because of what's happening or

2236
03:07:29,600 --> 03:07:36,240
not happening at the county. I think we
have to we have to go ahead and and uh

2237
03:07:34,319 --> 03:07:39,920
even if it's uh perceived to be
peacemeal, there are some big issues out

2238
03:07:38,319 --> 03:07:42,720
there that need to be addressed in terms
of planning,

2239
03:07:40,880 --> 03:07:46,840
» right? And hopefully that'll touch on
the rural lighting.

2240
03:07:50,000 --> 03:07:58,960
» That picture you sent out, I I I I
thought uh ET was going to step out of

2241
03:07:55,760 --> 03:08:02,720
the uh of the blinding light,
>> right? It looks like a nuclear power

2242
03:08:00,960 --> 03:08:08,160
power plant. There's a few of those
>> or a grow up without the curtain.

2243
03:08:04,399 --> 03:08:14,720
» The grow up. Yeah. the the idea of have
that that a municipality can be dark sky

2244
03:08:12,319 --> 03:08:19,439
designated. Have we ever looked into
that for for mono? I tried to watch the

2245
03:08:17,439 --> 03:08:23,920
pursade shower that was supposed to be
the the best and whatever and I'm

2246
03:08:22,319 --> 03:08:29,200
sitting there like is that one I can't
tell. Is that a start? Right.

2247
03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:34,479
» So it is in our site plan control uh
zero la line cutoff with respect to dark

2248
03:08:31,520 --> 03:08:40,720
sight compliance. Um so we do have our
uh we do have our commercial establish

2249
03:08:37,359 --> 03:08:46,640
and industrial institutional established
under that right. Um it was mentioned in

2250
03:08:43,439 --> 03:08:53,120
the largescale homes uh uh report that
was provided to uh to council that there

2251
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:58,720
was a mechanism that may um but it was
is it's uh it's it's very staff

2252
03:08:55,520 --> 03:09:05,680
cumbersome uh to um you know a lot of
these are constant uh constant uh uh you

2253
03:09:02,720 --> 03:09:09,840
need reviews and peer reviews and and uh
and a lot of it is staff cumbersome. So

2254
03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:16,960
it was one of the mechanisms the
committee panak is is is landing on a

2255
03:09:14,800 --> 03:09:24,399
couple of options and one of them does
include a more comprehensive review of

2256
03:09:20,160 --> 03:09:29,439
building permits um which may capture uh
what councelor capes has has identified

2257
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:34,319
um
but with with respect to so that's where

2258
03:09:32,000 --> 03:09:39,680
we are and and I think we we push dark
sky compliance but we don't control uh

2259
03:09:37,920 --> 03:09:46,000
we don't control individual rural
residents in their in their lighting uh

2260
03:09:42,319 --> 03:09:50,000
right now unless it has a uh property st
property standards problem community

2261
03:09:48,560 --> 03:09:53,760
standards unless it has a community
standards issue which council will

2262
03:09:51,520 --> 03:10:01,120
remember they adjudicated a uh yes
>> a in in chambers uh uh one from

2263
03:09:56,960 --> 03:10:04,479
fieldstone uh from fieldstone um so with
respect to the zoning b I've gone

2264
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:08,000
through the outstanding items on our
unfinished business list with our

2265
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:14,479
consultant planner Uh Deborah's
preparing a response with respect to uh

2266
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:19,680
uh the zoning bylaw housekeeping that we
can pick off and that that won't be

2267
03:10:17,120 --> 03:10:25,520
upheld or uh that won't be held up at
all by the uh um OP at the county.

2268
03:10:24,640 --> 03:10:31,439
» Great. Great.
>> And and we do have this philosophy of a

2269
03:10:28,880 --> 03:10:36,240
dark sky.
>> It's always been accepted that that's

2270
03:10:33,920 --> 03:10:42,080
what Mono has. However, and the
astrological society of Duffren used to

2271
03:10:40,000 --> 03:10:47,920
come and use the Lloyd Armstrong Park
and that area for night sky viewing.

2272
03:10:46,080 --> 03:10:50,240
Can't do it anymore cuz we don't have a
dark sky.

2273
03:10:49,040 --> 03:10:55,600
» Well, that's right. Because there is
some there is some specific, as you say,

2274
03:10:53,279 --> 03:10:58,640
cumbersome, but a specific designation
which we don't which we don't have.

2275
03:10:57,920 --> 03:11:05,120
» Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah. We we've uh talked about uh dark

2276
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:10,880
sky um and indeed a a Milky Way bylaw it
was called by Keith Mcnley back in the

2277
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:17,359
early 90s and I was a big advocate of it
and I was a member of the uh uh dark the

2278
03:11:14,319 --> 03:11:23,279
international dark sky society. It was
an outfit out of the states but uh that

2279
03:11:21,279 --> 03:11:27,439
didn't result in a bylaw but it did
result in changes to uh what we require

2280
03:11:26,000 --> 03:11:31,920
for commercial and industrial
properties. which is a good start. But

2281
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:34,560
now that LED it's, oh, they're cheap,
they last forever, I don't have to

2282
03:11:33,279 --> 03:11:37,439
change them. People put them up, they
think their house looks great. They

2283
03:11:36,000 --> 03:11:41,040
don't appreciate that they are like
education, right? They don't appreciate

2284
03:11:38,960 --> 03:11:48,120
that that they're blinding the people in
their kitchen next door.

2285
03:11:44,399 --> 03:11:48,120
» Indeed. Anything else?

2286
03:11:48,160 --> 03:11:56,640
» No, that's it for me. Thank you.
>> Okay, Fred, just just one item. In the

2287
03:11:54,240 --> 03:12:01,040
past, I've had people phone me and say,
"Does the town of Mono have some bylaw?

2288
03:11:59,040 --> 03:12:05,120
I've got a neighbor with a tree with a
branch hanging over my property. Can the

2289
03:12:03,760 --> 03:12:09,600
town do anything about it?" And I've
tended to answer, "Gee, I don't think we

2290
03:12:07,120 --> 03:12:13,520
have a bylaw that controls that." But in
in those two cases that I remember in

2291
03:12:11,920 --> 03:12:17,040
the last 16 years, it's all worked out
okay cuz we've gone to the property

2292
03:12:14,720 --> 03:12:21,279
owner with a tree either dead or with a
branch and they they've handled the

2293
03:12:19,040 --> 03:12:27,840
problem. So, no problem. What I have now
on my desk is an intractical problem and

2294
03:12:25,439 --> 03:12:31,600
I'm would ask staff or council if you
can help me with it. I sure would

2295
03:12:29,200 --> 03:12:37,200
appreciate it. Without naming names or
addresses, I did a site visit last week.

2296
03:12:34,319 --> 03:12:41,600
There's a house, small house like this.
The neighbor's property is right here.

2297
03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:45,600
The property line is, you know, within 5
ft of the house. How it got approved, I

2298
03:12:43,359 --> 03:12:50,560
don't know. And in the neighbor's
property are two large dead, very large

2299
03:12:47,680 --> 03:12:54,160
dead trees. I suspect they're ash trees.
the owner with the small house has asked

2300
03:12:52,640 --> 03:12:57,600
the neighbor to do something about those
dead trees and the own first of all the

2301
03:12:55,920 --> 03:13:00,640
owner had said he doesn't have the
money. I don't know where that

2302
03:12:59,200 --> 03:13:04,399
discussion's gone and I've not talked to
the owner of the property with the large

2303
03:13:02,160 --> 03:13:11,040
dead trees, but when I did the site
visit last week, I am totally dismayed.

2304
03:13:07,760 --> 03:13:18,319
There there is no way those trees are in
such a geographically difficult place.

2305
03:13:13,920 --> 03:13:23,600
Steep bank, river, dense uh vegetation
coverage, other tree coverage, there's

2306
03:13:20,399 --> 03:13:28,640
no way a Sawyer can get in there or a
truck with a bucket.

2307
03:13:26,000 --> 03:13:32,640
I am going to have well but but to back
up

2308
03:13:30,000 --> 03:13:40,479
» and this is where I
>> excuse me deputy mayor I'm trying to

2309
03:13:35,120 --> 03:13:44,720
find where this fits in the council
agenda

2310
03:13:42,560 --> 03:13:47,040
» this is a private matter
>> it's not private

2311
03:13:45,600 --> 03:13:50,640
» about two individuals
>> it's not private

2312
03:13:48,239 --> 03:13:53,040
» maybe Jessica would have some comments
on that

2313
03:13:51,279 --> 03:13:58,160
» clerk's department for guidance on this
is that the property standards bylaw

2314
03:13:55,359 --> 03:14:02,160
does in fact make the owner of the
property with the dead trees responsible

2315
03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:06,160
for doing something about it. I I I
would ask for guidance on that because

2316
03:14:03,840 --> 03:14:11,920
I've told this person, yes, we do have a
bylaw that that is it is is is comes

2317
03:14:10,080 --> 03:14:16,160
into effect in this situation.
>> Jessica,

2318
03:14:14,239 --> 03:14:20,479
» if we could suggest to have the resident
reach out to staff, we would be more

2319
03:14:17,920 --> 03:14:23,200
than happy to discuss this with them
offline.

2320
03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:28,080
» Yeah.
Well, but could we in the first instance

2321
03:14:24,720 --> 03:14:33,680
determ I right in telling the owner that
we do have a bylaw that comes into

2322
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:38,720
you've already you've already had email
conversations with Jessica Fred and I on

2323
03:14:35,920 --> 03:14:43,680
this matter and I would respect that you
have the staff reach out to us

2324
03:14:41,760 --> 03:14:48,319
explain an interpretation of the
property standards. Well, that that may

2325
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:53,040
you may well do that and I will take
your advice and do that. But my opinion,

2326
03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:57,600
which I would like to put put in the
public domain, is I don't know how the

2327
03:14:55,359 --> 03:15:01,359
heck anybody can go in there and do
something about these trees. So, what do

2328
03:14:59,279 --> 03:15:04,399
we do? These trees are threatening the
small house.

2329
03:15:02,080 --> 03:15:10,239
» We need we need to encourage the the
property owners to reach out to staff.

2330
03:15:07,200 --> 03:15:17,520
Um the the issue of dead trees is
frankly a slippery slope in terms of uh

2331
03:15:14,160 --> 03:15:21,520
of um having having uh having them
removed from properties, especially the

2332
03:15:19,359 --> 03:15:23,600
ash trees that are dead all over the
town. So I think we have to tread

2333
03:15:23,040 --> 03:15:27,279
carefully.
>> I just like to point out I this is not a

2334
03:15:25,760 --> 03:15:30,479
private matter between me and an
individual. This is a public matter.

2335
03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:34,080
» No, but I think it's a civil matter
between the two people that are not in

2336
03:15:32,479 --> 03:15:38,319
the room and that you're discussing
right now. It's a civil matter between

2337
03:15:36,239 --> 03:15:41,760
them and it possibly will become a civil
matter insurance,

2338
03:15:39,680 --> 03:15:46,800
» right? Like it's it's it's not a
solution for the town to right now. Um

2339
03:15:44,800 --> 03:15:52,399
but it is something that the homeowner
should speak to staff about.

2340
03:15:50,880 --> 03:15:59,120
» You shouldn't be solving that problem.
>> No, can I can I

2341
03:15:54,399 --> 03:16:01,600
» let's let's uh let's uh cool down here.
Uh

2342
03:15:59,760 --> 03:16:07,120
» so so that so okay. So just as a
removing removing not discussing it any

2343
03:16:03,680 --> 03:16:13,359
further that that is an example of why
why the uh our CEO has commented that um

2344
03:16:11,439 --> 03:16:17,600
written reports so that they go on the
agenda is an important thing. That's the

2345
03:16:15,840 --> 03:16:23,040
one issue. Then the other issue is what
Elaine has just said that that our job

2346
03:16:19,439 --> 03:16:28,319
is not to to um to just pick out one
individual's problems and and um heir

2347
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:33,200
them in the p in the public. So I wonder
should we actually if you're going to

2348
03:16:30,239 --> 03:16:39,600
now um encourage mandate what's the
right word have staff give a report that

2349
03:16:35,680 --> 03:16:43,359
then goes on to uh our agenda then and
we've been appreciating the reports that

2350
03:16:41,600 --> 03:16:48,560
we've been getting all along for this
term from the deputy on the CBC when you

2351
03:16:46,239 --> 03:16:56,160
get the mayor the thing though it's only
ever um addressed to gentlemen um which

2352
03:16:53,200 --> 03:17:01,279
is a joke um and when we had a one from
the monopo a pollinator garden. It was

2353
03:16:58,160 --> 03:17:05,279
good. How about if we like do that now?
Have if there's something that's on your

2354
03:17:02,880 --> 03:17:10,800
mind to bring up, we put it in writing
before the meeting and then it can get

2355
03:17:07,760 --> 03:17:15,040
vetted by by um the clerk whether it's
appropriate to go on the agenda or not

2356
03:17:12,479 --> 03:17:20,000
and then we can have a have a a
conversation. The the difference between

2357
03:17:17,040 --> 03:17:26,720
staff committing uh their reports to
writing and counselors committing their

2358
03:17:22,800 --> 03:17:32,000
reports to writing is the uh temptation
of a back and forth between members of

2359
03:17:29,520 --> 03:17:37,200
council that then got it gets construed
as a a a meeting outside the council

2360
03:17:35,120 --> 03:17:40,680
chamber. I think we still need to have
oral reports,

2361
03:17:40,880 --> 03:17:48,319
» but that doesn't that doesn't and I
think I think the CEO's comments were

2362
03:17:45,760 --> 03:17:52,319
restricted to how staff communicates
with us, not how we communicate with

2363
03:17:50,720 --> 03:17:55,760
each other.
>> Okay. Yes, I exactly what you said. I

2364
03:17:54,479 --> 03:17:59,279
agree with it, but that's not what I was
saying. They the point

2365
03:17:57,680 --> 03:18:02,880
» Sorry, our clerk has her hand up.
>> You do.

2366
03:18:01,279 --> 03:18:07,600
I was just going to note that this would
be a good conversation during the

2367
03:18:04,479 --> 03:18:08,720
procedural bylaw review.
>> Yes,

2368
03:18:07,920 --> 03:18:12,960
» good idea.
>> Good idea. Except in the So, in the

2369
03:18:10,800 --> 03:18:20,319
meantime, the but but the whole point of
the that you bring up something randomly

2370
03:18:15,520 --> 03:18:24,319
on on a on in a in a in an oral report,
then it's not written and then not all

2371
03:18:22,239 --> 03:18:27,760
of our residents watch to the very end
of our meeting to hear our reports.

2372
03:18:26,319 --> 03:18:31,120
Right? That was where I wasn't saying
that we should have a discussion in

2373
03:18:29,120 --> 03:18:33,040
writing, but that if it's in writing, it
then is in writing.

2374
03:18:32,399 --> 03:18:37,359
» Yeah.
>> But sure proced by something really

2375
03:18:35,680 --> 03:18:40,800
exciting at the end of our meeting so
that they stay at the end.

2376
03:18:38,399 --> 03:18:48,000
» Stay in. Yeah. I don't know that we can
control random

2377
03:18:43,439 --> 03:18:51,760
» to my report. Random. Uh I attended AMO.
I was not successful in getting elected

2378
03:18:50,000 --> 03:18:58,560
to the board. I lost by just a few
votes. Um there were six people running

2379
03:18:55,200 --> 03:19:05,120
for four positions. Uh surprisingly low
turnout, like really shockingly low

2380
03:19:01,040 --> 03:19:11,279
turnout for the board positions. Uh and
uh the the board positions may reopen if

2381
03:19:08,399 --> 03:19:16,000
any of the four successful candidates
are not reelected in October. So that

2382
03:19:14,080 --> 03:19:25,200
then creates another opportunity for
people who just barely lost uh to uh sit

2383
03:19:19,840 --> 03:19:31,040
on the on the board. Um the
it's hard to say a lot of really great

2384
03:19:27,840 --> 03:19:35,279
things about their format. Um there were
some good sessions. Uh there were some

2385
03:19:33,520 --> 03:19:40,239
good sessions that unfortunately were
talking heads and did not involve

2386
03:19:37,760 --> 03:19:46,000
participation of the audience which I
thought was was regrettable. Um the

2387
03:19:43,840 --> 03:19:53,279
premier's major announcement actually
had to do with the funding of of sports

2388
03:19:49,520 --> 03:19:58,160
um uh enterprises. Uh and I don't think
that it it precludes uh funding of of

2389
03:19:56,640 --> 03:20:04,080
the kind of thing that we were talking
about earlier. I could be wrong on that,

2390
03:20:00,880 --> 03:20:06,319
but um that literally was his major
announcement.

2391
03:20:04,880 --> 03:20:14,479
» $500 million.
>> Exactly. And uh so um it you know it was

2392
03:20:10,640 --> 03:20:23,479
worthwhile. Uh made some good contacts
and it's my first AMO in uh two years

2393
03:20:19,439 --> 03:20:23,479
and that's all I have to report.

2394
03:20:24,880 --> 03:20:27,120
I
>> ask a question.

2395
03:20:25,840 --> 03:20:35,359
» Okay. Yeah. Go ahead.
>> Do you think AMO's losing its steam?

2396
03:20:32,080 --> 03:20:39,760
» That's why I ran. I do. I do believe
that. I I think they they have lost

2397
03:20:37,840 --> 03:20:42,560
their effectiveness as an advocate for
the municipal sector.

2398
03:20:40,960 --> 03:20:45,439
» Right. I agree.
>> So, uh

2399
03:20:44,720 --> 03:20:51,200
» lunch break.
>> Okay. So, I think this would be a good

2400
03:20:47,920 --> 03:20:56,960
point to uh take our lunch uh returning
at 1:00 sharp for our in camera. And

2401
03:20:54,640 --> 03:21:02,279
that's the the uh other than the
confirming bylaw. That's the balance of

2402
03:20:59,040 --> 03:21:02,279
our meeting.

2403
03:21:02,399 --> 03:21:06,439
» So, we'll return at 1:00.

2404
04:01:25,600 --> 04:01:29,239
We are back live.

2405
04:02:57,840 --> 04:03:04,520
Yes, Andrew has uh expelled the
individual from the uh meeting.

2406
04:03:05,439 --> 04:03:11,680
» Welcome, Jeff.
>> Um, your worship, we should just wait

2407
04:03:09,760 --> 04:03:15,720
for Andrew to confirm that we're not
streaming live. Okay.

2408
05:07:52,480 --> 05:07:58,000
We are back live.
>> Yes. So, good afternoon again. Um, I

2409
05:07:56,080 --> 05:08:05,760
have a motion that we rise from an inc
camera session uh at 7 minutes past 2:00

2410
05:08:03,280 --> 05:08:10,480
uh p.m. and direct town staff and the
town solicitor to proceed accordingly.

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05:08:07,920 --> 05:08:18,080
Moved by councelor Cape, seconded by
Deputy Mayor Nicks. Any opposition?

2412
05:08:13,680 --> 05:08:24,160
Seeing none, uh, notices of motion. Um,
as, uh, indicated, I will be bringing a

2413
05:08:20,400 --> 05:08:30,080
notice of motion to, uh, uh, retain a,
um, a voluntary historic properties of

2414
05:08:26,958 --> 05:08:33,680
interest database at the next meeting.
Any other notices of motion?

2415
05:08:31,600 --> 05:08:36,878
» So, was that a notice of motion, your
worship, or that's just you're telling

2416
05:08:35,280 --> 05:08:39,440
us you're going to bring a notice of
motion?

2417
05:08:37,520 --> 05:08:42,718
» No, I'm going to bring a motion.
>> Okay. So, that was the notice of motion

2418
05:08:41,120 --> 05:08:46,638
for consideration at the next meeting.
Okay. Could Could I be so rude as to ask

2419
05:08:45,200 --> 05:08:49,280
you to repeat that?
>> The actual

2420
05:08:47,360 --> 05:08:54,718
» I'm going to I'm going to bring a a
motion. I'm giving notice now that I'm

2421
05:08:52,160 --> 05:08:59,840
going to bring a motion at the next
council meeting to uh uh retain or

2422
05:08:57,520 --> 05:09:03,878
create a um voluntary historic
properties of interest database.

2423
05:09:08,718 --> 05:09:14,798
Any other notices of motion? Uh, seeing
none, I have a motion that we introduce

2424
05:09:13,280 --> 05:09:18,798
and give the necessary readings to a
bylaw to confirm the proceedings of

2425
05:09:16,958 --> 05:09:24,320
council of the town of Monono in session
13-2026

2426
05:09:20,400 --> 05:09:27,680
held on uh, August 25th, 2026 that it be
signed by the mayor and clerk sealed and

2427
05:09:25,840 --> 05:09:33,600
engrossed in the bylaw book. Do I have a
mover for that? Councelor Magdalo uh,

2428
05:09:30,240 --> 05:09:38,480
councelor Capes. Any opposition? Seeing
none, I have it's passed. I have a

2429
05:09:36,240 --> 05:09:45,320
motion the council adjourn this meeting
at 9 minutes past 2 uh p.m. Um,

2430
05:09:52,638 --> 05:09:59,680
no I have I have a different wording
here. It's a new it's a new wording.

2431
05:09:56,718 --> 05:10:04,320
Jessica, I'm confused before
>> through you. Um, we just added the next

2432
05:10:02,638 --> 05:10:08,560
meeting date, the next regular council
meeting for information.

2433
05:10:05,840 --> 05:10:15,280
» Okay. And I miss I misregulize it's
regional. Um, so we're adjourning at uh

2434
05:10:12,080 --> 05:10:21,120
10 minutes past 2 to meet again for uh
the regular council meeting on September

2435
05:10:17,520 --> 05:10:26,560
8th, 2026 at 9:00 a.m. uh or at the call
of the mayor. And uh do I have a mover?

2436
05:10:24,000 --> 05:10:32,560
Councelor Capes, seconded by Councelor
Davey. Uh no no opposition. The motion's

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05:10:30,160 --> 05:10:35,120
carried. Thank you very much everyone.
>> Thank you.

2438
05:10:37,360 --> 05:10:40,160
You sure you don't get