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Good evening. Welcome to the town board meeting of Wednesday, December 13th, if we can all rise. Those are not standing for the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag.

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I thank

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you

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all again that warm my heart. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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We did not have an exact session tonight, so if I can ask for a motion to open the town board meeting of Wednesday, December 13.

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I'll make that motion.

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I'll second.

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All in favor?

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And Mindy is Chris here, was Mindy?

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She's out there.

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Is Chris here?

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Okay.

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That's okay.

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So we have, it looks like a long agenda, but I think we're actually going to get through it fairly

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quickly, we have a couple of hearings as well.

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So we'll start right at the top of our agenda, which is something I've had on the agenda.

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Every meeting for months and months and months, which is some Albany legislation,

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Goberna Hockel's Housing Compact, and the New York State Legislative items, the Housing

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Compact, which I announced, I believe, at the last meeting.

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From the information I got from the assembly in the Senate, was that the governor appears

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to have pause, hit the pause button on the housing contact,

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for at least next year, which means that everything

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that this board's been fighting for together for three years,

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preventing New York State from taking over local zoning.

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It looks like we've got at least a pause for 2024.

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So I would advise next year's board to keep a close eye on it,

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and just keep the pressure on.

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And we've said for years, we're here to help.

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We want to work with the governor.

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I've invited the governor to town to see how our town

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as unique and how one size doesn't fit all.

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So we just need to keep that pressure on.

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The other item is the New York State Legislative

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items, which is the bill that was passed by the Assembly

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in the Senate.

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Fortunately, our state Assemblyman, Chris Burtick,

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who may be here, soon voted against it,

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and our state Senator Shelley Mayer,

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is the only Democrat in the State House to vote against it.

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And the reason that we're not in favor of it is because it

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will move all of our town elections to even years,

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which means there will be, in conjunction with,

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govinatorial races in the president.

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And then all the local issues and all the people that are

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sitting in these seats, those races

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will get drowned out by the millions and hundreds of millions

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of dollars put into those larger races.

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So we're very much in favor of keeping the local town elections

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on odd years.

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So the argument for it, which, to me, makes no sense,

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is that turnout will increase.

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It will, but not the turn of it that you want for local issues.

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So, what I recommend to residents and I put in my emails is click on the Governor's website.

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You can't send her a direct email.

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Just send an email if you agree with us to please urge her to veto the bill and to keep those local elections a lot of you on hard number years.

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I'll pass it to the town clerk for the last time for community announcements and town clerk report.

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Allison.

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And thank you.

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And I have to say that it's been an honor and a privilege to work with you.

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I've learned so much from you.

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I've always, every, I started here eight years ago prior to that, I was a communications coordinator

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and had the privilege of working with you.

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I was with you on soccer fields and, you know, volleyball tournaments and it's just really

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truly been a pleasure to work with you.

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And the board, you have always shown grace and consideration and respect to all the people

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that you work with, all the residents, and you've never let an issue go by without fully

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vetting it from every side, listening to every perspective, and that's definitely something

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that you learn from you as well, that there's many, many ways to look at every specific issue

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and so many different interpretations and I appreciate that.

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I appreciate your graciousness and your intelligence and the commitment you've given to the town over all of these years.

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You're really a wonderful role model and your family is beautiful and just thankful to have had this opportunity.

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Thank you.

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I'll just go into the announcements as well. And thank you to everybody who's here and you're showing of support and coming out tonight, celebrate Mike, and share in the concerns and issues of the town. So I appreciate your all being here.

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Happy holidays, it's so Hanukkah.

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Tonight I believe it's the last night, so happy Hanukkah.

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Tomorrow night, there will be a Hanukkah celebration

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and monoral lighting in Wampus, Brooke Park.

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And that will be at 7 p.m.

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There'll be a Hanukkah monoral lighting and some singing.

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And I think there'll be some snacks.

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I'm not really sure.

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I think perhaps as well.

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Graves and snacks.

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I think it'll be a win for the past few years and it's been a wonderful event and I recommend

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everybody in the community to come out for that.

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It's tomorrow tomorrow's last night, Monica.

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Oh, tomorrow.

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Excuse me.

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I'm glad I won't miss it.

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Um, one thing on that, because I got a couple of emails that thought we would be in disrespectful

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to Hanukkah.

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We're not, uh, Councilman Bill and worked on it with the rabbis and they picked the suitable

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night to do it.

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So it was not in disrespect.

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We did have them in our lighting when we did a holiday lighting during frosty, but it was a date picked by the

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rabbis and the correct answer.

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Yeah, there's respect on it.

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Yeah, there's no, it's not the last time.

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I just got some emails like, you know, why you doing this, Sonic has already started, it's

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It was, they chose the date, so.

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Trying to accommodate everybody's schedules.

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And then another important, very important event in town is a blood drive.

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It's so important to give blood.

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Unfortunately, I know that from family experience and there's always a sort of shortage.

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So if you have time and you can't, and you are capable of giving blood, please do so.

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There's a blood drive at the North Castle Public Library and the Armunct Branch on Monday, December 18th from 11am to 5pm.

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You can make an appointment on the library, there's a link on the library's webpage,

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or you could call 800-933-2566.

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There are a volunteer opportunities on the Landmarks Preservation Committee,

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the Conservation Board, the Library Board,

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zoning board of appeals, and always on NC4.

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You can get more information about that on the town website as well.

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So, that's all I have, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Madam Minister.

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Thank you, Kevin.

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I have one quick one tonight.

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one positive, the Environmental Facilities Corporation, EFC, has awarded a New York State Water

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Infrastructure Improvement Act grant for the Towns Waste Water Treatment Plant Upgrade.

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This grant is in the amount of $780,325 dollars, and in addition to the money that we've

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received through the WQIP grant, which was nearly just about $3 million.

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This is great news and it's accredited to the work of our water and sewer director, Salamaciti.

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And I'd also like to wish you the best in your post-mancipal retirement.

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It's been a pleasure working with you for the last, excuse me, four and a half years.

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And I'm sure our past will cross many times in the future.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate that.

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We'll go to town board, Lea's on update.

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I just wanted to share a couple things, so from the liaison to the library update, we had

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a library meeting in the board the last week, and a couple of things that have been coming

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up that I just want to share with the community is around ability to be doing Zoom meetings

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from different public spaces that the town offers, so there was a request to enable that in

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the North White Plains Community Center,

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and also in the Armont Branch of the Library.

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So we, as a town, we're going forward with a plan

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to put, like a mechanism there.

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So it would be a large screen TV that has built-in video camera

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and mic pickup.

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So people can just go and log in directly from there

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and then hold meetings that are hybrid, physical,

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and on video.

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So that is something that's, I think, going to be really helpful

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for the town.

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I have those in place.

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In early January.

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So in case someone didn't hear that.

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So I also was just saying that the plan is to have them in place by early

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January.

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I'll say January.

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So that's one update.

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And then the other piece was just on the arm monk branch of the library.

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I think you all have seen that there.

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There's some construction updates happening. So that's to actually renovate like the beams in the internal

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structure of that library. So I just want to thank everyone for your patience. Is that complete? So

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over the next few weeks. And that's it? Great. Thank you, Slime. Deputy Supervisor.

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I'll be doing this soon, though. Tomorrow in the journal news, there'll be a public notice,

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advertising a two bedroom middle-income housing unit in Whipperville Hills if you are on the waiting list

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you will be notified via email and if you are not then I suggest tomorrow that you go on the

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town's website and I believe on the home page Allison will be a a direction for you to follow

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and it's an online application although you have to submit some information via the U.S. Postal

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service. It is a 40-day window from the first day of advertising this unit tomorrow, and therefore

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all applications would have to be received by January 22nd 2024.

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The second thing I would just like to mention is on Sunday we had a holiday party at the

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Northway Plains Community Center, and I see Nancy Battastelli and Michelle Fallett are here,

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And they were two of the women along with Terry Loberman and with Jackie Macan who put really a tremendous amount of time and effort, shopping, preparing the room, organizing so that we had different events, also a librarian, Sue Greco, did a wonderful job with crafts with her staff, and you just, this is that sense of just giving back to the community.

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and Nancy and Michelle and the other women who participated.

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They don't look for praise.

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It's just something that they feel they want to do for their community.

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And we're really very, very fortunate and I thank them very much.

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And you had a lot of little children seeing Santa Claus

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and having pictures taken with him and just had a really wonderful time.

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So I thank you very much for your time and effort.

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And finally, this is, I've decided that I am an absolute denial.

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I refuse to accept that in January that Michael Scholarow will not be here as supervisor

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and it's just to me there's going to be a void that is going to be very hard to fill.

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Mike, I don't want to repeat everything that Allison said, but when you think of his license plate, be decent.

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That's, that's Mike in two words.

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I can't tell you the first couple of times when I was on the board during public comment.

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Someone would get up and direct some horrible comments at Mike.

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I mean, horrible.

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And I'm sitting there, seething.

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And what does he say when the person's finished?

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Thank you.

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I'm like, thank you.

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Are you kidding me?

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Thank you.

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But that's my.

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And he respects people, even though their opinions may differ.

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He still treats them with respect.

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And I've learned so much from him,

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just by observing, for instance, one of our land

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to Saturnis in town said, when I go before this board,

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I can't figure out that guy, does he like my application or not?

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He just sits there, he listens, he doesn't not his head.

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And when I'm done, I have no idea, is this a yes or a no?

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And I thought, you know, he's right, though,

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because, you know, I'm, I'm others to say, don't wear your heart on your sleeve and I think that

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Mike understood that there was a process and that first introduction to an application or

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a zoning change, you really, that's all it was with an introduction.

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And you really shouldn't give a message, you know, through your body language or whatever,

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how you're feeling initially because at the end you may feel totally different.

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So, it's just I could go on and on, but you have been an inspiration, you are just an incredible human being.

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You're devotion to the town at the expense of your family. How many times did you miss a birthday?

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An anniversary? A graduation? Never.

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All right, many times and it was because this was his commitment and

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We will

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On one hand, we are so fortunate as a town to have Mike serve on the town board, serve a supervisor, but I think that he will leave a lasting impression, and someone that I think we will always hold in high regard.

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Thank you, Mark.

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Yeah.

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So I serve as the liaison to the parking wreck advisory board.

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So the IBM indoor facility, the IBM bubble, is coming up for renewal in August

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and the parking wreck board asks that we have a work session in January to talk about the criteria

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that we want to use for the RFP for the request for proposal to re-bid it.

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So that was all I had tonight.

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I'll keep it short, too, because I'm liaison to a couple of committees that are going to be presenting today.

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Importantly, sustainability.

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You'll sing Ruth's chairs here, and other people from the committee as well. Thank you.

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And then also, Dave Simons is going to present for the Ethics Board, and also very important group.

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We've been trying to keep things on the up and up and propose improvements, so we thank

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him for that.

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And I also thank everybody who's here.

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I think I can say in neutral ways possible, these are controversial times, so it's good

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that we get people out and expressing their opinions.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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I have a couple of comments, but our Assemblyman Chris Berdick is here, so he was on the

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haven't surely were on the agenda, but their schedules are low chaotic so I'd like to

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print myself for a second and turn it over to Assemblyman verdict Chris.

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Thank you so much and I'm here really on behalf of both myself as well as Senator Mayor who

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extends her regrets that she couldn't be her this evening. I want to extend congratulations on behalf

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both Shelley and myself, for reelection of Jose Pera and Salim Hasein, congratulations.

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Thank you, Chris.

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And, yes,

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one of the time-on-our traditions among those of us in the state legislature

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is that when we have someone who has served the town in the highest capacity within that town,

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you'd like to recognize that service. And this is certainly no exception.

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And so Shelley and I both wanted to present to Mike Schlero. The incredible work that he has done

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in recognition of that, we each have proclamations that are issued on behalf of each of our chambers.

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So, the proclamation I have actually came from Albany, and is on behalf of the entire New

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York State Assembly, honoring Supervisor Chilera for his incredible service to North

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Castle, and similarly, Shelley has done likewise from the State Senate.

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And I'd just like to take a moment to read the proclamation first from mine and then

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read the one from Shelley, whereas it takes courage, stamina,

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pragmatism, and an overriding concern for the well-being of others,

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including both present and future generations,

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to run for and serve effectively in elected office.

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And whereas Michael J. Scholarot was elected town councilman in 2007,

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and supervisors six years later, devoting his level-headed diligence and skill in government

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to Northcastle for well over a decade, and whereas from Michael's first volunteer role

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in town government administering middle-income housing, he has balanced environmental preservation

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with the housing needs of a growing population, with both the acquisition of over 100 acres

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of open space, and the construction of our mount commons. And whereas having reinstated

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the town's AAA bond rating, Michael has kept town taxes low, negotiated town use of

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facilities, a biome health central, and the

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Self-hally union free school districts, and supported the 10 small businesses during COVID. While also, ensuring

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the safety of Northcasts of residents through regular communications on health protocols and a successful

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mask collection effort. And whereas enhancing both public safety and quality of life,

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Michael convened a stakeholders group, the elected officials and concerned community members

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to address police reform and brought an ambitious road-repeaving project to completion ahead

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of schedule.

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Now therefore be a proclaimed that is a guly-elected member of the State Assembly of New York

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for the 93rd Assembly District.

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I honor and commend Supervisor Michael J. Chilero, whose far-sighted governance is contributed

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so much to Northcastle.

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Thank you, Chris.

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I do want to add a little addendum to this.

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Michael and I were elected in the very same year in 2007.

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I was elected to the Bedford Town Board and Michael was elected to the Northcastle Town Board.

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Then we will also elect it at the same time as supervisor in our respective towns.

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So Michael and I go back a long way.

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And that friendship mutual respect and consulting with one another has endured throughout that.

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And I will give as the most recent example of that where Michael stood up for this community

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and so many in Westchester County when he said the governor's proposal on housing doesn't work for us.

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And we worked very closely together, and Michael helped leave the charge in Westchester

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Municipal Officials Association.

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And I do believe that if it were not for Michael helping to pull together a coalition of local

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elected officials, but most importantly, the community, we might well have seen that

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proposed to go into effect, and he did it his second year in this budget season.

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And we fought the same battle together, and I don't like to fight battles like that.

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I prefer to try to reach consensus and compromise.

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I'm hopeful that this coming budget season and legislative session, we can come up with a

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housing policy, but when that works for North Castle, and one that works for the people

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of the State of New York, but we can give tremendous credit to Michael for his work on

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that two years running. Michael, I cannot tell you how invaluable your friendship and your

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wise counsel has been to me, both during the times that we served in parallel at the town

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And when I came into office and was there to represent North Castle in the 93rd Assembly District.

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So if I could, maybe I could have this in front so that I can memorialize this.

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My communications director would be the gas.

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I didn't walk away without the photo.

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I think, if you let it go it's just one more moment ahead of Christians.

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Oh my god, appreciate that one.

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I can take it long ways too.

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Well, for him.

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I can surprise.

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Thank you so much.

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and by the way, I know that Senator Mayor would join me and what I said about what Michael's role was with respect to the House of Representatives.

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Let me just take a moment then to read the proclamation from the New York State Senate.

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Where is it is the practice of the New York State Senate to publicly acknowledge individuals who serve the best interests of their community?

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and thus we recognize Michael Schelero for exemplary service within the community and state.

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Upon the occasion of his last North Castle board meeting.

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And whereas attendant to such concern and in full accord with its traditions,

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this legislative office is justly proud to commend Michael Schelero upon the occasion of determination of his term as town supervisor.

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and whereas Michael Shalero has served the North Castle community with dedication and commitment

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during his years as town supervisor. Mr. Shalero slies the board having served faithfully

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for 16 years, first having served as councilman for six years and ten years as town supervisor.

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And whereas Michael Schillero gave his time to working with board members to maintain a strong

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financial footing in Northcastle, while improving infrastructure and preserving the environmental

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beauty inherent in Northcastle, working closely with the elected officials at all levels of

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government on behalf of the town of Northcastle. And whereas when individuals of such noble

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claims and accomplishments are brought to our attention. It is appropriate to publicly honor

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those individuals. Now, therefore, be resolved that I, Senator Shelley B. Mayor, commend

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Michael Schillero for his distinguished service to the community and state and thus urge

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all citizens to share in this celebration and to take this opportunity to appreciate this distinguished

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person in our great district from Senator Shelley B. Mayor.

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Thank you, Chris.

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Thank

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you very much.

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And thank you all for your indulgence.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you, Chris.

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So when it comes to my part of, I don't usually do town board liaison updates, but the thing I've been doing since.

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I've been supervisor is something I call a celebrate the good.

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So, recognize a team and individual anywhere in the country in town.

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So, tonight, it's only right that I celebrate all of you.

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Everybody in this town that lives in this town works in this town.

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I celebrate you all.

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And I'm just going to go through a few words and a few thank yous and a few memories.

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And then we'll get moving on with the meeting.

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But when I think about my service to this town and resperment,

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those this date well, I called the resperment day was May 22, 2007.

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I had lunch and white planes with somebody, a crack-to-tooth.

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I had emergency rucanale, and I was on my way to the Yankees game with friends.

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And resperment called and said, we want you to run for town board.

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And I said, absolutely not, this is not going to happen.

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One of the time, every young family, and then we know what happened.

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I ended up running for town board.

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Somehow, it was never in my radar screen

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to run for supervisor.

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There was so many great people before me.

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And I became supervisor in 2013, as Chris said,

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and we had the same parallel paths

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that I'll not running for the assembly.

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So this is it for me.

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And then I got together with my confidential

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incredibly confidential secretary,

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many Barat who's somewhere around here.

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And I said, let's just kind of put down some of the things

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that we've dealt with since I've been on the board,

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especially a supervisor.

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We only covered a small part of it,

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but I'm just going to read some of these things as a reminder

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of some of the things that we've done.

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With the help of many town volunteers,

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we formed a master plan, comprehensive plan task force,

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an updated or comprehensive plan for the first time

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in over 20 years, and we did that because we

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we had the money.

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When CVS was proposed and all those hearings we had at the library, full of 300 people, very upset.

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But we got through that.

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The development of Marmok Square and the Chico's, which was really a game changer and that development

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changed the town in a great way.

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All the development we have in downtown and we have a lot of hearings on them.

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But all the walk to downtown and all the developments that we have in some of the developers are here as well.

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with.

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Thank you for investing in our town. The AFFH housing settlement that was started during

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Robesterino's time, where we were on the list, one of six communities. And I sat with the

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monitor, we took him into town hall, and I was looking for a fight. I put my arm around him and

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taught them about our town. To the point where the judge commended art and community for furthering

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a fort of our housing versus criticizing us because they didn't know enough about our town.

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So we just had to take the time to educate them.

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A small one, but the banks for the Avenue Resoning.

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That was a big issue many years ago, but we finally saw that with the help of all the stakeholders

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getting together, having the Bristol here, which is a terrific development.

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The paradigm development, the group housing on coal, where we filled up that library again

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And with the help of residents, we fought, and we won, and that development, and that poop housing is not in our town for the right reasons.

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Managing through all of our corporate neighbors during the bad economies, and the tax search areas, and working with them together, IBM,

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Swissery, all of our big corporate neighbors, which we love and appreciate, special election with the word system many years ago that we've, what we work through,

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creating a compensation and benefits manual.

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Working with our unions, especially the PBAs, the PBA union,

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and getting them to compromise on things like providing money for healthcare,

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which they never did before.

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When I first got on the board, we actually had a postpone,

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the swearing-in, because we had a blizzard.

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And I knew we were going to have a blizzard,

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as soon as I got in office.

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We had several house fires, which was heartbreaking,

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and we had a postpone, my swearing-in a few days,

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because we were dealing with a blizzard.

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We increased and improved our highway fleet

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of trucks and all of our equipment and our departments.

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The storms we had to deal with,

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Riley, Quinn, Brady, Isae,

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Kahn Edison's great program of line-hardening in town,

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so we have less outages.

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As somebody said before, the Page of Management program,

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which I give Larry Ruiz, he was here a lot of credit

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for that in Alex Green, I don't know if he's here.

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Larry led our budget finance committee for many years,

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and very big reason why all of our rows are paved now

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almost complete versus waiting another six to eight years.

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Restoring on Moody's Triple A bond rating, which took years to do.

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And everything I'm talking about, by the way, is team efforts.

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Whether we agree or disagree on all the boards I've served on,

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we all work together on behalf of the municipality and you,

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whether we vote differently or the same,

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we're all trying to push that ball in the same direction.

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And so it's always a team effort that there are budgets.

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When I got on the board, the budgets were a little tricky.

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The balance sheet was a little tricky.

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It took us years to restore that.

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But we did get a AAA rating back.

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I'm proud that over the last 12 years,

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or average tax increases, 1% a year.

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And we've got an incredibly strong fund balance,

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which I was focused on building for future boards.

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Not for our use necessarily, but future boards

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when they hit tough economies.

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We got the eagle replaced, and ironically, it's down now.

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So it will go back up, but that was a accomplishment, which the Bristol contributed to us.

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COVID, and none of us can configure COVID, and one of the incredible things during COVID

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is, and I've told this story before, is, it was a doctor in town, I still haven't met her.

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She reached out to me and said, we are desperate for masks.

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Can you see if you can figure out a way to get people in town to make masks or do something?

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We got instructions on to make masks. I disseminate through the community

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People got energized by it. I still have the rubber made at my house with masks written on it

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I'd leave it on my front lawn and at night these little elves would drop masks in ziplocks the doctor

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I never saw her. She would come pick up the mask, dropped them off to the hospitals,

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the scores of the medical group, thousands of masks. I still have some left, which a resident

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is going to volunteer. I wanted to frame them. So we have a family and town who's going to

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do that for us and donate it and I want to mount it in town hall as a memory of COVID and

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they're wonderful. I've got the gazebo rebuilt. The subdivision, the greenway by the pool,

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the greenway sky view, we finally got all that drainage fix. The icy rose for anybody who lives

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over there, we finally got that fixed, the long pond park district, finally, that was kicked

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down the road for so many supervisors and no disrespect to them and I just said we got

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to solve it.

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So we've been working on that, fighting with the, I fight with a lot of governors, but I had

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a fight with Governor Lamont in Connecticut because if somebody you remember, he wanted to

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put a toll between exit two and exit three, which is where Greenwich carves out, and

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he's just thought he can do it without asking us, well, we fought him.

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We went to Hartford. We sent a contingent. I always call him Indy. My also my Director of Legislative Affairs. She went

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Chris Berrick went. Barbara went. We made our case. And I was one of my great days in town when the governor of Connecticut said,

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you can tell the good people of Northcastle that they won. And that told did not happen. Because I would have really affected Northwide

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planes because people would have cut through on 22 and not pay that toll. The hotel tax. We got approved

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through a help of George Latimer and Shelley Mayer and David Buckwell

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up in Albany, which when we had hotels in town, we can pick up some extra revenue.

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All the New York State legislation we talked about fighting on the local zoning and keeping it

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here. All the New York State mandated programs that came out of the governor's office

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that we were just left to deal with. We dealt with it. The shared services, studies,

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The tax cap, the tax freeze plan, and the New York State man that about police reform, which we were going to do anyway, but we did it in accordance with that.

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And I also give my confidential secretary, Medi-Broad, tremendous amount of credit for leading that effort for us.

454
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,660
We're finally going to have water on New King Street by the airport.

455
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:15,140
Open space, we preserve 58 acres near my honest.

456
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,280
That was the last day that that bond was, if Roland remembers because he got it a sign that it was a Monday night.

457
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560
It was after 10 years, that was the last day of the 10 years.

458
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,940
I worked with Kerry K. Sock, we got that approved.

459
00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:31,380
And recently, due to Vito Erico, in his generosity,

460
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,800
we got 63 more acres in the center of town at the Children's Preserve.

461
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:37,220
So terrific, terrific acquisitions.

462
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:41,200
The work we've done with PFAS and the contaminants in our water,

463
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:45,120
changing the receiver of taxes from elected to appointed,

464
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:47,420
which was something I really wanted to do.

465
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,740
And also changing the reddit's residents to reform.

466
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:52,720
and so it opened up more candidates for that.

467
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320
The airport and some of our neighbors, which we really like,

468
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,580
but they wanted to push more planes over our skies.

469
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,520
And we were not going to have it.

470
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:02,380
So Michael Pollack, who's on our planning board,

471
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:05,400
servers on the airport advisory committee, Larry Rewezi,

472
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,080
servers on that subcommittee for air traffic.

473
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,580
And it wasn't going to happen.

474
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,240
We were not going to allow one more plane

475
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,800
to come over our town that was not supposed to be here.

476
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,280
And we did not.

477
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:17,780
Community benefits agreements, the CVAs,

478
00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:20,080
which I gave her, it's how to turn it around and brownie.

479
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,240
Really took the lead and was just accounting on that,

480
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480
and that's, if you've seen all the approvals we've done,

481
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,140
now they include CVA, so we can get money from developers

482
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:31,680
to provide money for the impacts that those developments

483
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,720
are going to cause, whether it's respect to parking,

484
00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:36,540
traffic, all those things.

485
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,100
We acquired the pool, finally, after all these years.

486
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,180
It was a team effort, at the end, I thank Selene

487
00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,080
and Matt Millum for bringing that to closure,

488
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,180
And now we finally own that pool.

489
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,800
The Miller House finally got preserved.

490
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,540
It was such a headache fighting with Westerners to county.

491
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,640
And at that time, our county legislator, but we prevailed,

492
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:01,560
and our new county legislator, Margaret Cunzi,

493
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880
it was just been wonderful and terrific to work with.

494
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,540
We finally got the Windmow Water Project completed

495
00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:11,020
in all seven miles or so, all new pipes,

496
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,860
and that should last another, hopefully, 50 years or so.

497
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:18,800
We finally got the North White Plains Community Center renovated with bathrooms and showers,

498
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,240
in case we need a shelter there, and our improvements in our parks and library.

499
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:30,940
And through that, always my effort was always trying to maintain excellent relationships with all levels

500
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:33,660
of government with no politics, so there was never any bias.

501
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:37,820
And to just do it all eight politically with civility and decency.

502
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:42,560
And also to maintain good relationships with our two school districts.

503
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:52,680
Valhalla had never been done by supervisors, so I had reached out to them and maintained communications with them, and obviously with fire and hills, always.

504
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:57,220
I'm going to leave people out, but I just want to mention a few people.

505
00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:05,500
There are a lot of mentors that I've had in this town that are not with us anymore and many that are.

506
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:13,720
And they really taught me, that this town is worth loving, and they really taught me,

507
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,880
it took the time to teach me how to love it.

508
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,660
I always dream, my wife knows this, I always dream the living in a small town where you

509
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:29,640
could walk down the street, you know the shopkeepers, and some people say this to me, and

510
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,100
it's partly true because I am a banker, they say you remind me of George Bailey and it's

511
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:40,280
And, but I feel that way. You know, I love this town. I love walking through this town. I love

512
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:46,860
walking my dog and to be forced to sun up and after sun down and knowing people in town.

513
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,180
And I'm going to give you some thank yous and no particular road. I want to start with those who are

514
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:58,460
no longer with us. Becky Kittridge, who taught me so many lessons when I first started here,

515
00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,980
be teller some of you may remember

516
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980
Remember, Christy Staltstein, Bill Weaver, who was a mentor of mine, and looked at me almost like a son, Sean Ryan, who passed away recently, Jack, and we have to give his last name, but Jack, may Greg, and Don Greg, who's still with us, but a wonderful mentor to me, Jim Bo Ross, really only used to go by Jim Bo, but Jim Bo Ross, Carol Schmidt, many of you may have known she was a realtor in town. What a great friend to me. And so many more, and then others that are still

517
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:34,780
around us and helped me, the great Bill McClure, who she was I tried to fill when he sat

518
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:37,040
on this board when I first ran.

519
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,260
Sue Gaffin, who I call the matriarch of our town, Jerry Geist, who was another mentor to

520
00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:46,080
me, who served on the town board, Michelle Berliner, who worked with Christy to create

521
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,100
a staying alive and their story is incredible.

522
00:40:49,260 --> 00:40:53,020
If you've never seen their video, just go online and look at that staying alive video,

523
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,900
and it will bring you to tears.

524
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,960
Two interesting people, Denise and Stephen O'Connor, met Denise when I came

525
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,000
And she was the first house I went back to when I won.

526
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,900
She invited me in and they were just wonderful people.

527
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,200
We had a lot of debates and conversations about the Banksville Avenue Resonning that I talked

528
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,540
about.

529
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:18,120
But in the end, we worked together and got that done.

530
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:24,060
Sam Arrell, who doesn't live in town anymore but a wonderful friend and support are all

531
00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:28,880
the business owners and all the commercial property owners and developers that choose to

532
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,220
best in our town, Dorn Donovan, who was our former controller, who taught me the most about

533
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:38,700
municipal finance, and I give all the credit in the world to what she taught me.

534
00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:45,260
Sharon Tomback, when I became supervisor, Sharon's had some personal challenges going on

535
00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:51,220
in her family, and I didn't have Mindy at, and Sharon offered to be my secretary for the

536
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:55,260
first month or so until I got my legs under me, and that was just terrific help, and she's

537
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:56,720
He's been a great friend.

538
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:00,120
Some friends that are here, Rocco and Barbara Triano,

539
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,540
just like family to me.

540
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:02,800
So thank you.

541
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,360
This Acanino is the same way.

542
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,220
The Valsicis, Bernadette Valsicis, the Ryan family,

543
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:12,540
all my softball buddies, always very supportive.

544
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:15,180
Always give me a hard time, but always very supportive.

545
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:20,060
All the people who approach me in town that I don't know.

546
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:21,960
And I'll tell you a funny story about this.

547
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,240
But it means the world when somebody just comes up

548
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:29,320
I mean, sometimes they say, you know, we don't agree with everything you do, but we trust that

549
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,340
you're doing everything in the best interest of the town.

550
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,100
Many years ago, we were having a party for one of my daughters at the house.

551
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:42,360
It was as crazy, brainstorm, and may my wife sent me to CVS to get something, I had to get

552
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,780
in and out.

553
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,940
And my kids will tell you, any time I go into town, for milk, it's a two hour thing.

554
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:51,400
And I'm in CVS, and somebody says, Mike, do you have a minute?

555
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,900
And I never say no.

556
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:54,680
And I said, I don't.

557
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,820
I have to get back to my house.

558
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,760
So I ran through CVS, I ran into this gentleman again,

559
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:01,680
and he said, Mike, do you just have a minute?

560
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:02,760
I said, I really don't.

561
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,960
And only said, I just wanted to tell you

562
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,760
you're doing a great job.

563
00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:11,520
It wasn't paid my road or my life's a ratter,

564
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,700
I think it let never happen before.

565
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,940
Neil and Maryam Bellman, just, I remember Neil,

566
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,720
and my first year on the board,

567
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,320
and we had a budget hearing at Critidin.

568
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,240
That's how, you know, contentious those were.

569
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:31,460
And I remember seeing him at the microphone just supportive of putting trust in the board

570
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:33,100
and the decisions that they were making.

571
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:39,220
All my same Patrick's Church brothers and sisters just incredibly close to me.

572
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:45,980
The criptor family and Uncle Harvey and pop-up, which I've mentioned before, not by blood,

573
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:47,900
but they are very close to me.

574
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,960
The de-guardians, the rescue families, all of my friends in town,

575
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,620
I'll ever reweze you or I thank you already, Alex Green, and all the judges that I work with

576
00:43:55,620 --> 00:44:00,780
Judge Schimer's here, Judge taught me a lot about ethics and that the ethics code needed

577
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:03,880
to be revamped, and I give the judge a lot of credit for that.

578
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:11,840
Bob McGoey, Wiesel's Ansky, Irish Shoman and Judge Martino, all very appreciative of them.

579
00:44:12,020 --> 00:44:16,380
Have a couple of people that were sort of acted like parents to me, and the low-brimons,

580
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,880
I think Ed is home sick, but they were at the top of the list.

581
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,200
They always kept an eye on me.

582
00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:22,400
Never got a pass from them, especially Ed.

583
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,900
Always said it like it is, but really appreciated them,

584
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,340
always keeping an eye on me.

585
00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:30,160
And I see Francis see her here, and her husband, Tony,

586
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:32,680
have always been very, very supportive all these years.

587
00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:37,120
All the department heads and all the employees in this town

588
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,100
have been incredible partners.

589
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:43,160
Bob Castelli, who was our assembly men.

590
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,320
Many years ago, told me one of the great lessons I learned

591
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,900
in government.

592
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,060
quick story, I know I'm running on but it's important. Bob had a special

593
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:58,860
election with Pete Harkham and two gentlemen. This is the way a campaign should

594
00:44:58,860 --> 00:44:59,220
We run.

595
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,860
And Bob one, and I got invited to the swearing in. And I'm a Democrat, Bob's a Republican, so it kind

596
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:15,400
of took me, I was going to take in a back of it. I went to the swearing in. He'd hear him. The first

597
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,140
thing that Bob did was recognize his opponent in the audience, and had him stand up, and he got him

598
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:28,800
an applause. That's the way things should be done in my opinion. Wonderful lesson for me,

599
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,260
And the first thing he said was, after the elections, it's time to govern.

600
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,960
That was one of the greatest lessons I received and when I, in my survey, is that's

601
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,360
the truth.

602
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,420
And that's the way I've always worked to do that is you choose sides and then you have

603
00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:44,560
to come together in govern.

604
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:51,160
My dear dear friend, all my neighbors on my street, but double a don, which I think I saw outside.

605
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,840
There she is.

606
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,860
I want you often hear me about walking my dog, why walk my dog with that.

607
00:45:57,860 --> 00:46:04,820
I call her my private therapist, because she gets to hear everything at six in the morning, and I couldn't ask for a better friend.

608
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,500
Thank you.

609
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,740
All my priests from St. Pass have been such great counselors to me.

610
00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:17,400
And so I thank them all, and I know I'm missing people.

611
00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:26,780
But Allison, right back at you, you know, it's been such a pleasure to work with you and know you for so many more years before you started here.

612
00:46:26,780 --> 00:46:35,520
I always appreciate your intellect and your legal background and we always figure it out, and I always appreciate your patience and your department's patience.

613
00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:42,040
Mindy has been through more than that, but any meeting that I may set every other week with them.

614
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:45,930
I have to time, I've got to change the time, or I'm late, or I'll say start without me.

615
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,260
But thank you for all you do and all your support.

616
00:46:49,260 --> 00:46:54,880
Our town attorney, Roland Barroni, has been a terrific partner to me for all these years from

617
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,260
being on the board and then a supervisor. Barry Ryder, my former colleague, just a terrific

618
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:06,100
partner for eight years and thank you for everything. And right across the board here,

619
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:12,460
like my colleagues here, whether we disagree or agree, it still takes a lot as Chris said to

620
00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:16,200
for you to happen to ring and serve. So we all should always recognize and appreciate that,

621
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,840
whether we agree on issues or don't agree,

622
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:20,380
it takes a lot to be sitting up here.

623
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,900
So thank you all for your service.

624
00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:26,540
In Kevin Hay, I gave Kevin a little bit of a hard time

625
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:28,280
when we're interviewing him and he still

626
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,900
reach recalls that, but all for the better,

627
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:33,760
and you've been a terrific partner for me.

628
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,380
And other than government, he's one of the handiest guys

629
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:40,180
I know, so whether I have to borrow a tool or get some advice,

630
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:40,980
Kevin, say everyone.

631
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:47,580
I've had two deputy supervisors.

632
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,860
Steve DiAngelo was my first and just the terrific partner in government.

633
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,980
Different parties, and everybody who thinks, you know, you have a Republican deputy

634
00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:03,280
and you're a Democrat, I've never operated anyway differently in this town.

635
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,040
It's always what I think is best for the town.

636
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:22,040
And then succeeding him has been barber at the Jacinto, who I've known for so many years because we served on the House of Middle-income Housing Board together before I got on the board as did you and I learned so much from you and appreciated your professionalism so thank you.

637
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:30,040
I know I'm leaving some people out, but I'm going to go to Mindy who is my confidential secretary and I think she's somewhere, there she is.

638
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:36,280
I don't know how she has the patience to deal with me for all these years, but she is just

639
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,900
the most incredible person I've ever worked with.

640
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,960
Her patience, her work ethic, she just knows that she needs to be on 24-7, because I need

641
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,000
her be on 24-7, whether it's a holiday, literally, you know, about to put a turkey in the

642
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,760
oven on Thanksgiving and I need her to help me with something in the morning.

643
00:48:58,180 --> 00:49:04,220
There's nothing too great for her to do for me and you've just done that for years and it's going to be weird next year.

644
00:49:05,060 --> 00:49:10,740
Not working with you and talking to you about town business, but we'll have more time for regular life.

645
00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:17,720
I've loved to watch her family grow and now her grandkids and we interviewed right here.

646
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,360
She sat in that seat and she was on crutches and she used to work for John Known.

647
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:32,980
And we're talking, and I think now there was some synergies there, and somehow we started talking about our birthdays, and we share the same birthday, and that was it.

648
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:39,620
That was pretty much, this is meant to be. So I just can't thank you enough for all you've done for me.

649
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,460
You, without Mindy.

650
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:42,680
Come on, Mindy.

651
00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:44,580
I don't know that I'm standing. Come on, Mind.

652
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:45,340
Come on, Mindy.

653
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:56,250
Forever grateful.

654
00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:58,570
And then there's my family.

655
00:49:58,770 --> 00:49:59,970
I've got...

656
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,020
Extended family, my sister-in-law is here and I've been so supportive. Family that's watching, my two brothers, my brother,

657
00:50:06,140 --> 00:50:16,140
Phil has been so incredibly instrumental in helping me on the government side. I remember one quick story, he used to work for President Obama as his director of legislative affairs.

658
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,420
And we were in the Oval Office in incredibly once and he used to share some of the things that I was dealing with on the local level.

659
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,280
And I'll never forget this because we were working out of the Oval Office and the President President.

660
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,520
But his hand on my shoulder and said,

661
00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:30,960
Phil's been sharing some of the things

662
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,240
you're dealing with on a local government.

663
00:50:32,660 --> 00:50:33,320
Just keep fighting.

664
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:34,240
Keep the fight.

665
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,820
I'm like, you're the president of the United States.

666
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,300
Just very memorable.

667
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,160
I'm my brother, Joe, my sister, Sue, and all their kids,

668
00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:43,800
and all my nieces and nephews.

669
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,800
And then I get to my family.

670
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,880
And I'll try to get through this.

671
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:54,960
But when I think about the sacrifices that they've made

672
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:03,440
On behalf of me every time I ran it was a family decision. I remember I haven't dinner at made an ageer

673
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,240
Through one of my decisions to run and one of my daughters said to me

674
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:15,260
That if you don't run again, you're going to do something else. We know you

675
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:20,780
So if you really want to do this do this because you're gonna you're gonna allocate the time somehow and

676
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,780
They were right so I continue to run

677
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,860
And they've been nothing but supportive since my daughter, Gina, who's three, he's in college now.

678
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:39,660
She doesn't know her dad, her memory of not being part of the town or not being at meetings every other week or commitments on weekends and things like that.

679
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:41,200
That's how she knows her dad.

680
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,780
My other daughters were a little bit older, but they've always been by my side.

681
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,840
My wonderful future son-in-law, Perry, is here as well.

682
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,760
And I just can't thank them all enough for everything

683
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,260
they've done through the years during campaigns,

684
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:58,780
running around with, I like, Mike shirts on.

685
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,660
And all the stuff they've always done for me,

686
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,360
and being able to learn from that, being able

687
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,720
to learn from them as well.

688
00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:11,360
But you all know the deal that those signs may say,

689
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:13,200
we like Mike or I like Mike, but we don't know

690
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,280
that Lori is the story, Mike, we don't want to.

691
00:52:17,180 --> 00:52:23,780
So my wife has always been by my side when I get home at some late meetings, it could be midnight

692
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:29,920
one o'clock, I turn the TV on in the living room and maybe have a little bourbon or something

693
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,080
to take the edge off, and Channel 39 is on, and that tells me that my wife was staying

694
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,660
up all night watching her husband supporting me while I'm working, so I

695
00:52:48,660 --> 00:52:51,000
can't emphasize enough

696
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,840
the sacrifices that my family has made for me and doing what I've done and I couldn't

697
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,640
have done it without that.

698
00:52:58,660 --> 00:53:00,440
I really could not have.

699
00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:06,880
I had the four to the time to do the things that I wanted to do for this town and I just

700
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,600
can't thank you enough for all you've done.

701
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:17,120
And then lastly, I will thank God and I have my Bible right here and many of my friends from

702
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:24,600
No, how important my faith is to me, and I truly will tell you that of all the support I've had.

703
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:29,120
Without having my faith, I don't know how I could have gotten this done for 16 years,

704
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:32,860
because there was some really tough times throughout those years.

705
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:39,600
And knowing that I had to rest on my faith was always very important to me.

706
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:46,980
And one of my good friends who passed away a few years ago in Screco is one of the people who gave me the strength

707
00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:49,760
to not be afraid to talk about my faith in public.

708
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,640
So I thank him, eternally, and I've said enough.

709
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,100
I appreciate you bearing with me and getting my thank yous

710
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,600
out and my appreciations, and if I left anybody out,

711
00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:02,740
I truly am sorry.

712
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,260
But there's so many people that I appreciated in this town,

713
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,600
and people I don't know about, like I said,

714
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:11,960
welcome up to me and thank me.

715
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,540
And I'm not perfect for sure, and people disagree

716
00:54:14,540 --> 00:54:16,060
with some of the decisions I made.

717
00:54:16,060 --> 00:54:23,100
But I was just focused on what I thought was in the best interest of the town, so thank you all for indulging me, and let's get on with this.

718
00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:44,960
So with that we will get on to public comment, and we do have a policy which I'll just refresh everybody's memory on the timekeepers.

719
00:54:45,260 --> 00:54:49,520
So the time limit is five minutes. I'll give you like a 30 second heads up.

720
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,320
uh... speakers should let it limit their comments to five minutes uh... we expect

721
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,440
respect and civility no personal tax and town employees and town consultants

722
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:11,840
And the supervisor always reserves the right to stop the speaker if they're violating anything in the policy. So, I don't know if there's anybody in the list, Allison, but I could turn it over to you and I'll be the timekeeper, except I don't have my phone, so I need a phone.

723
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:27,800
But of course, we're going to start with our honorary historian, Jack Zipper. And on your way up, if you don't, I saw you in the paper, but I don't know what you got in the word for, can you share with us?

724
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,160
What's the paper for the National Merit Scholar?

725
00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:32,680
Yes, that would be nice.

726
00:55:32,740 --> 00:55:35,840
Yeah, I became a National Merit Scholar Center finalist.

727
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,820
So thank you.

728
00:55:43,180 --> 00:55:45,100
Before I begin my official presentation,

729
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,540
I would like to start by wishing Mr. Shaliro

730
00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:50,160
well in his next phase of life in his career.

731
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,780
And for those of you who don't know me,

732
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,940
my name is Jack Zipper.

733
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,720
I'm in 12th grade, and I'm here representing

734
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,640
the North Castle Historical Society.

735
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,760
North Castle has a rich and important history.

736
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,580
And we would like to take a few moments at each board meeting to remind you quickly of some of its highlights.

737
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,400
The recycling we call a moment in North Castle history.

738
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,980
So this past April, I participated in an annual 10K race in Warpown Ridge called the Leatherman Loop.

739
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:23,380
My dad and his friends run it every year, like a bunch of crazy people.

740
00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:28,700
And I highly encourage others to get out and participate in the full fun local trail run.

741
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:43,340
The race was started in 1987, and is believed to be the largest trail run race, east of the Mississippi River, and possibly the third largest race trail run race in the United States, with over 1,300 ventures.

742
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,240
I always wondered though, why is it called the Leatherman Loop?

743
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:54,120
And it turns out the race is named after an actual man, a legendary local man who was

744
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:00,000
simply called the Leatherman, and whose identity today remains a mystery, despite much

745
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:06,360
research and even a 2008 book by Dandeluca called the Old Man Leather, historical accounts

746
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,060
of a Connecticut and New York legend.

747
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,920
So who was the Leatherman and the Leatherman loop?

748
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:18,960
So, around 1860, it was common to find people wandering the countryside, usually looking for

749
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520
farming work, a meal or a place to sleep.

750
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,120
One such wanderer appeared in our area of Westchester.

751
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:29,600
He was also seen in areas of eastern Connecticut and Putnam County.

752
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,200
He wore a homemade leather outfit and asked for only for meals.

753
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,240
He appeared regularly like clockwork every month at many of the same homes he did not speak.

754
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,420
He visited for more than 25 years.

755
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,880
What made him a legend, in addition to the mystery of who he was, was his great distance

756
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:58,780
or loop that he traveled, which turned out to be approximately 365 miles and took him over

757
00:57:58,780 --> 00:58:00,360
a month to do so.

758
00:58:00,580 --> 00:58:06,420
His timetable was set up so that he arrived in separate locations each day and his timing

759
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:14,640
was so exact that many of the people along his path could set their clocks by him, so that's

760
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,380
where the term loop and the leatherman's loop comes from.

761
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:25,880
As for the leather, he came to be known as the leatherman due to his obsession with leather.

762
00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:32,020
He would visit harness shops and accept donations of leather scraps, and he sued them together

763
00:58:32,020 --> 00:58:38,180
himself into an out-fandish outfit, which included a leather hat with a visor, a pair of pants,

764
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,120
which went well up to his chest, and were held by suspenders, a leather coat with a length

765
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:51,000
just over his knees, and a pair of wooden, sold shoes, with you guessed it, leather tops. He had

766
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:58,220
a bag of leather and walked with a cane as well throughout all of those 365 miles. The clogged

767
00:58:58,220 --> 00:59:03,560
that he made closely resembled a type worn by the peasants of northern France and Belgium,

768
00:59:04,060 --> 00:59:08,640
which is a part of the theory that he is from French or French origin.

769
00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:11,460
His costume weighed 60 pounds.

770
00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:17,120
It is also said that you could hear the leather creaked as he walked by, and there were

771
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,360
some that also said you could smell the leather men coming.

772
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:28,440
He lived in caves, which was probably a little bit of a part of the smell, and I believe the cave

773
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,360
in Armank in which he stayed in is the cliff behind what is now the restaurant gavvy.

774
00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:39,420
His appearance and long walking distances made him a legend, but so did his warm personality.

775
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,920
It's hard to imagine now, but people really look forward to his return to their homes each

776
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,340
time, waiting for him with special meals.

777
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,920
They would marvel at how much he could eat.

778
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:56,960
The leatherman was known to eat whole loaves of bread and boxes of crackers at once, of course, without speaking.

779
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,980
The leatherman survived the terrible blizzard here and...

780
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,740
In 1888, but at the end of the winter of 1989, he was found dead in his cave in buyer-cliff.

781
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:13,740
As for his origin, Mr. Deluka's book postulated that the Leatherman was of French Canadian descent, with

782
01:00:13,740 --> 01:00:20,040
possible Native American ancestry. This was supported by a small French pair of book that was found amongst his

783
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:27,660
belongings after his death and his French style footwear. Even his burial was a mystery. He was buried in

784
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:33,520
part of Cemetery in Austin, New York, and the headstone incorrectly identified him as

785
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:40,100
Jules Borgle of Leon, France, was placed on his grave by local historical societies in 1953.

786
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:46,540
And before that, around from his death, his only grave marker was a metal pipe.

787
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:54,300
They attempted to exhum his remains in 2011 and found none, only dirt and some coffin nails

788
01:00:54,300 --> 01:01:00,540
were there. The dirt and nails were relocated to another site at the cemetery with a large headstone

789
01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:05,560
marked simply the leatherman. And that's all I have to you for today. Thank you.

790
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:17,540
Thank you. It's a family again for volunteering to frame those masks. So I'm going to get those

791
01:01:17,540 --> 01:01:22,140
to you. So thank you very much for that. And one of the thank you. I'm sorry. The only reason

792
01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:28,040
we're really here are family and town is because Kay Anderson and her husband Bob sold us their house.

793
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,920
And it's an interesting story because I came down on a Saturday after I left work as I was

794
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,160
working in town at the bank and I ran home, my wife was very pregnant, so we got to look

795
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,560
at this house. We pulled in the driveway, my daughter Polina was three and a half. She was

796
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:50,980
sleeping in the car. Here she is now. And Emma was in Born Yet. So we ended up buying the house

797
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:56,140
from the Anderson's. Emma was born three days after we looked at the house. It was here

798
01:01:56,140 --> 01:02:00,020
as well, and we're here because you sold us the house.

799
01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:00,700
So thank you.

800
01:02:00,980 --> 01:02:01,260
Happy.

801
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,360
Didn't Kathy go out.

802
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,300
She watched Selena.

803
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:04,020
Yeah.

804
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:10,600
You know who we were, but they, you know, and one other quick funny story

805
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,960
because we were awarded the bid Sunday night.

806
01:02:14,060 --> 01:02:18,660
And I was working at First Union Bank, and this show me what a small, what a small

807
01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:20,100
town this was, but I loved it.

808
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:21,980
So I got to work Monday morning.

809
01:02:22,820 --> 01:02:25,020
Becky Kichridge walked in the bank, the bank opened.

810
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:31,860
And Sunday night Bob Anderson called me right nine o'clock and said you won the bid so Sunday night at nine o'clock Monday morning

811
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:33,780
Becky comes in and sits in my desk and goes

812
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:35,780
So I heard you move an arm on

813
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Like how could you know that?

814
01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:39,720
They know they were buddies

815
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:47,580
But the message wise this is what I want. I love a small town. I want a small town and this is where we raise our children and we'll be forever

816
01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:49,040
So anyone? I'm sorry

817
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:49,840
Next.

818
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:51,500
I

819
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,360
didn't have to give Jack a heads up because he knows the time, he's good, but I'll

820
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:01,780
anybody else.

821
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,780
I'll just give you a heads up.

822
01:03:09,580 --> 01:03:09,760
Hi.

823
01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:10,680
Okay.

824
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:11,380
Yes.

825
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:20,260
Sue Miller, 46 years plus in our monk, first I want to say thank you to Mike for all the years

826
01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:20,960
of service.

827
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:29,160
I was one of the people who said, Mike, you have to run for supervisor and all your

828
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,380
dedicated service and on a personal level.

829
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,620
Thank you for being supportive of me and my time of need.

830
01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:41,080
I really always appreciate it that.

831
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:47,940
I don't want to take the meeting down, but there's a few things I really need to say.

832
01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:55,880
Social media has tremendous power to keep people informed, to keep people up to date on current

833
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,680
events so that we know it's happening in our town.

834
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:06,300
It's very upsetting to me that our town, just like our country in our world, is so

835
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:11,900
horribly divided now, things are really scary, upsetting,

836
01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:16,080
but it really bothers me to

837
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:25,720
know that public officials can get onto social media, on Facebook or any of the social posts,

838
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:33,240
and really create controversy and split the town more than it has to be.

839
01:04:33,860 --> 01:04:41,160
I think there should be a time of healing, and I really look to public officials to please

840
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:50,800
not make comments and get into war of words with people, especially when things are not verified.

841
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:58,720
This is just my personal opinion, but really upsetting to me to see what's going on.

842
01:05:00,460 --> 01:05:17,520
I really hope that some people will reconsider, not commenting on social media, it's just, it's better not that this generation is getting terribly affected, but our community is getting terribly affected.

843
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:27,760
So, please, I'd like the town to heal, go back, I'd like our eagle to go back up with

844
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:33,320
the sub-setting from me to find out that the eagle really just didn't fall down from

845
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,560
water and winds.

846
01:05:35,780 --> 01:05:42,700
So, it needs to go up, it needs to be strong and our town needs to be strong.

847
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:51,780
So please consider not you want to say something send an email to your friends text them call them

848
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:54,780
but don't fight on social media

849
01:05:54,780 --> 01:05:55,800
You know

850
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,060
They're never going to be able to sell a house in our mug again

851
01:05:59,060 --> 01:06:01,500
So please think about that

852
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,640
Thank you sir

853
01:06:09,010 --> 01:06:10,190
That was the next

854
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:11,990
With what knock the eagle down

855
01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:12,870
We're all asking

856
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:17,210
So now the police department issued a press release today that

857
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:23,670
Even though there was a bad storm, they're doing an investigation because there may have been some foul play.

858
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:25,550
So that's all they released.

859
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:26,590
They're looking at it.

860
01:06:26,590 --> 01:06:28,930
It would be very unfortunate if it were.

861
01:06:29,830 --> 01:06:31,330
But the Eagles going back up.

862
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:35,830
They also said that they didn't know when it would have happened.

863
01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:37,050
They would impose.

864
01:06:37,610 --> 01:06:39,550
And it's been up there for a while and weathered.

865
01:06:39,790 --> 01:06:41,010
So they weren't quite sure.

866
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:42,770
They're like Mike said they're looking into it.

867
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:49,290
Alison Fab Green

868
01:06:49,290 --> 01:06:49,970
Oh

869
01:07:21,740 --> 01:07:27,980
I agree with all of the applied

870
01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:30,920
You're getting a very happy relationship

871
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,940
I'm one of them

872
01:07:34,940 --> 01:07:36,540
One of the things

873
01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:38,800
Please let Bob speak

874
01:07:39,780 --> 01:07:43,140
Bob, would you mind having the mic just pointed towards you?

875
01:07:43,140 --> 01:08:08,340
So you mentioned in your, and you memories 13 years ago, you were elected supervisor and I was one of your senior campaign people did a lot of work for you raised a lot of money helped you become supervisor, I think and this is a wonderful outpouring for you and I think you deserve it.

876
01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:11,120
I think you've done a lot of good things for this town.

877
01:08:11,780 --> 01:08:15,600
And believe me, I would rather be anywhere else tonight

878
01:08:16,220 --> 01:08:22,300
because my comments are probably going to be upsetting

879
01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:25,800
to a lot of people in the Roman and some people in town.

880
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,400
But there's something going on with this election

881
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,940
that is so upsetting to me, I can't sweep it under the rug.

882
01:08:33,580 --> 01:08:34,480
We have a problem.

883
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:41,140
We don't know who the next supervisor's going to be, and because they're still doing a

884
01:08:41,140 --> 01:08:44,120
recount, but it is incredibly close.

885
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:50,560
And in terms of what happened, it's so close, we were able to look at all of the folks

886
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:51,480
that have been cast.

887
01:08:52,700 --> 01:09:01,280
And turns out there's six folks that folks that we know of that are illegal votes.

888
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:08,360
I can't imagine how this could happen on our town and I think a lot of the term it was illegal.

889
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:09,500
Yeah.

890
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,880
Just it's not a Q&A just let Mr. Greens.

891
01:09:16,580 --> 01:09:20,720
I think we need to let people speak during public comment. Nobody interrupts.

892
01:09:22,340 --> 01:09:25,040
Just guys, let me just run the meeting.

893
01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:28,380
Let Mr. Greens speak. I just want to correct one thing.

894
01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:31,900
He said, Bob did come to me in 2013.

895
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,140
He had run Howard Arden's campaign.

896
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:40,360
And he came to me a little less than a year later and said, we met him as steak.

897
01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:41,780
Can you run for supervisor?

898
01:09:42,860 --> 01:09:46,440
And of course, I have my family make many sacrifices for it.

899
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,940
He asked how involved he needed to be in the campaign.

900
01:09:48,940 --> 01:09:50,180
I said, we have a team.

901
01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:52,720
He was not a senior person in my campaign at all.

902
01:09:52,740 --> 01:09:53,920
That is not correct, Bob.

903
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,360
He did help me with communications in his neighborhood.

904
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,960
And that was the end of it, so he did come to the end.

905
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,380
And ask me to run. He was one of the people who did, I did. And many sacrifices later, I'm still supervisor, Bob.

906
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:23,040
So six votes shouldn't be there. Starting from the bottom, we have Jonathan Relezy, who's the son of a running mate of Barbara, who voted here, doesn't had to drive up from North White Plains, hasn't lived here for a decade or more.

907
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,580
We have Kevin Decker, Barbara's cousin,

908
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:32,920
lives in Pennsylvania, has lived there for a decade or more.

909
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,400
Excuse me. This is not a courtroom.

910
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:37,380
I don't think this is appropriate.

911
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:38,460
Let's.

912
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,180
I think I really don't think this is appropriate.

913
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:41,840
Let's go forward.

914
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:43,140
Let's go forward elsewhere.

915
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,380
Wait. Absolutely.

916
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,800
Hey. Hey.

917
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,920
Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

918
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,880
Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

919
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,940
hey hey everybody listen everybody listen listen listen listen

920
01:10:57,940 --> 01:11:04,340
sorry Mr. Green had five minutes he's got listen he's got three and a half minutes left

921
01:11:04,940 --> 01:11:10,740
Bob finish maybe you've put a few minutes back on the clock now because I didn't start the clock for the first

922
01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:18,920
minute okay thank you Mike anyway those are two out of six boats those two boats got counted they

923
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,820
didn't have been, but they did. They slipped by. Then you have four votes that have been

924
01:11:23,820 --> 01:11:28,580
withdrawn. They're because they were so blatantly.

925
01:11:28,780 --> 01:11:32,400
It's not why sir. Dave, just let them finish please.

926
01:11:34,180 --> 01:11:34,700
Dave,

927
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:38,560
this is really just wrong. This is really just wrong.

928
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,200
This is really just wrong. This is really just wrong.

929
01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:48,320
Dave, just let them finish. So for votes, you have Paulina Shilaro, who put in a vote

930
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,280
and the signatures don't match.

931
01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:56,660
That's the same thing for Allison's son and daughter, Andy and John.

932
01:11:57,220 --> 01:11:58,200
Dave, please.

933
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,060
Dave, I can't keep starting and stopping the clock, please.

934
01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:02,340
Matt, we have to talk about it.

935
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:03,980
Dave, please.

936
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:04,660
Please.

937
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:06,120
Please.

938
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:07,120
Please.

939
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:09,140
Please.

940
01:12:10,580 --> 01:12:11,620
Dave, please.

941
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,060
Okay, let me just, let me get through this.

942
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,560
Anyway, these votes were deficient in two ways.

943
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,120
The signatures don't match.

944
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:28,760
We hired an expert to examine the handwriting.

945
01:12:29,060 --> 01:12:31,220
I have their report, which came in today.

946
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,500
The examination of the handwriting said, there's almost no possibility that the same person

947
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:41,960
signed both the election card and the ballots.

948
01:12:42,820 --> 01:12:48,520
Secondly, none of the people in the opinion of our attorneys have the right vote because

949
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:55,380
they don't live in town. You can have a second address, but you still have to qualify

950
01:12:55,380 --> 01:13:02,400
to get through this. And they don't. So as a result, there was an opportunity, by the way, for

951
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:10,460
the four votes that have been dismissed. They could have taken those back, and probably we

952
01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:13,200
wouldn't be here and no one ever heard about this.

953
01:13:14,020 --> 01:13:19,280
But attorneys for Barbara insisted to go to court to legitimize those for

954
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:19,800
vote.

955
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:20,600
Not true.

956
01:13:21,140 --> 01:13:21,800
And I'm true.

957
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:22,980
This is true.

958
01:13:22,980 --> 01:13:25,360
Well, I went, he was I would stop the clock.

959
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:26,940
You need to tell the truth.

960
01:13:27,380 --> 01:13:27,580
Okay.

961
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Okay.

962
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,200
I need to tell the truth.

963
01:13:34,830 --> 01:13:35,850
Here's the truth.

964
01:13:36,170 --> 01:13:37,690
It was a lawsuit filed.

965
01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:38,310
Yes.

966
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:40,510
Why would you just send them to not file a lawsuit?

967
01:13:40,510 --> 01:13:48,410
No, no, but she could have, she could have accepted Joe Rendee's offer that let those

968
01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:49,010
close by.

969
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:49,910
It's dead.

970
01:13:50,350 --> 01:13:50,670
I don't know.

971
01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:50,810
I don't know.

972
01:13:51,050 --> 01:13:51,770
Just continue.

973
01:13:52,450 --> 01:13:53,310
Just continue.

974
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:54,130
Stop, David.

975
01:13:56,930 --> 01:13:58,850
Anyway, this is so disrespectful.

976
01:13:59,730 --> 01:14:05,890
After the hearing, I've never seen a public comment period where we've had town board members

977
01:14:05,890 --> 01:14:09,510
interrupting the speaker or where we've had people in the audience interrupting the speaker

978
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:10,210
multiple times.

979
01:14:10,210 --> 01:14:14,010
I think we're starting to stop and please, please don't interrupt me.

980
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:17,050
I think, I think, I think, I tack you my wife.

981
01:14:17,130 --> 01:14:19,630
Dave, can you please let people speak?

982
01:14:20,930 --> 01:14:27,710
This, we need to be able to have civil discourse where people... Dave, we need to be able

983
01:14:27,710 --> 01:14:31,170
to have civil discourse where people can speak, you can't interrupt people.

984
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:33,930
Just pull it, just pull it.

985
01:14:34,130 --> 01:14:36,070
Can I let that, can I let by a finish please?

986
01:14:38,110 --> 01:14:45,610
So, you've got a minute 47, again, about the end of it is that those four boats, the people

987
01:14:45,610 --> 01:14:49,790
who put them in are their attorneys agreed to withdraw them.

988
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:57,010
Now, you can think whatever you want, in my view, if they were a totally legitimate quote vote,

989
01:14:57,170 --> 01:14:59,970
which, by the way, had they been counted, Barbara would be...

990
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,220
If they had been counted, she would be supervisor.

991
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:07,400
They're doing a re-count.

992
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,120
They are doing a re-count.

993
01:15:11,940 --> 01:15:17,860
Just let Mr. Green finish. Nobody make any comments.

994
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,600
Let him finish. I can't keep hitting pause, and then hit the clock and pause.

995
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,820
So Bob finished in the minute 17.

996
01:15:25,060 --> 01:15:27,780
Anyway, as a result of them being withdrawn,

997
01:15:28,780 --> 01:15:30,820
Jorandi is left with a three vote lead,

998
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:33,500
which also, by the way, includes these two votes,

999
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,300
which are counted even though they were legal.

1000
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:40,420
So right now, we don't know because there is a final recount.

1001
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,720
It is certainly possible that if there are a few votes

1002
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,840
that the machine did wrong,

1003
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,020
which is what they're trying to determine now.

1004
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,620
Barbara, the teacher, the decento could be supervisor completely illegally.

1005
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:05,160
So I think that that is a shame on this town.

1006
01:16:05,380 --> 01:16:13,260
And I think we have to recognize this problem and do something about it in the future because

1007
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:21,820
I can't think of a worse situation where I have my vote stolen, and as you know, I know

1008
01:16:21,820 --> 01:16:22,760
something about elections.

1009
01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:25,320
I work pretty hard on the Rendy campaign.

1010
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:28,260
Did it completely up and up clean?

1011
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:35,480
And when I found out that a bunch of people came in and tried to slip on by the golly, I'm tremendously

1012
01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:36,020
offended.

1013
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:41,290
Thank you, Bob.

1014
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:42,910
Nobody else, Bob.

1015
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:44,790
You pulled the boats.

1016
01:16:46,210 --> 01:16:47,010
Who's next, Allison?

1017
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:50,340
Jane Clark.

1018
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,980
Folks, please, just be respectful.

1019
01:16:58,870 --> 01:17:00,150
You can go to either microphone, Jen.

1020
01:17:00,550 --> 01:17:04,670
Thank you.

1021
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,500
Thanks, Bob.

1022
01:17:14,010 --> 01:17:15,670
Bob, can you take your board down, please?

1023
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:17,690
Yeah.

1024
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:18,890
Thank you, board down, please.

1025
01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:29,020
I'm waiting for my heart to get back to a normal pace here.

1026
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:30,380
It's been a little routing in the corner.

1027
01:17:30,620 --> 01:17:31,860
Bob, please cover it.

1028
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:35,120
We'll put it in the hallway.

1029
01:17:40,420 --> 01:17:40,460
Jump.

1030
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:41,880
Thank you.

1031
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:42,840
My name is Jen Clark.

1032
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:46,460
I'd say I'm here for myself.

1033
01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:51,140
And the fact that I am concerned about election integrity

1034
01:17:51,140 --> 01:17:52,960
in the town of Northcastle.

1035
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,700
And I think I'm mostly here because I took my two children

1036
01:17:56,700 --> 01:17:59,340
to vote with me before they left for school,

1037
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,460
the morning of the election.

1038
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,520
They're in kindergarten and second grade.

1039
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,160
And they can't wait to find out who won.

1040
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:31,460
And they know who we wanted to win, and I had an answer for them, and then I didn't have an answer, and then I had an answer, and then I didn't have an answer, and the story keeps going, and you know as parents, you have to realize this is the right time to teach your kids about certain things, and they're a little too young right now to know anything they, fortunately don't read what's going on on social media, and don't read the articles, but I do.

1041
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,880
And I could choose to believe whatever I want to believe,

1042
01:18:39,780 --> 01:18:40,840
but just the fact that this

1043
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:49,060
is happening is disappointing, it's sad, and

1044
01:18:51,170 --> 01:18:53,750
it does make me wonder, you know, at some

1045
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:57,630
point I'm going to be able to explain to my kids why maybe there just was this just

1046
01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:02,310
this one vote and there's always this thing that your vote matters, your vote does my vote

1047
01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:10,450
But, well, guess what, this time your vote really did matter, and I let my kids know that, you know, it could have been my, that was our vote guys. We went there and we voted.

1048
01:19:11,190 --> 01:19:15,590
And here I am teaching my kids all about how voting works and how democracy works.

1049
01:19:16,010 --> 01:19:21,190
And then all of a sudden it's like, Mommy, I thought you said this person one. Well, not so fast. Well, what happened?

1050
01:19:23,790 --> 01:19:31,810
And then, my daughter said to me, well, Mommy, if you think you know, you know what's right or something, you should go stick up for yourself.

1051
01:19:31,810 --> 01:19:40,030
And so I'm here today sticking up for myself on behalf of my children because I do believe that there was

1052
01:19:40,030 --> 01:19:45,890
election fraud committed in the town of Northcastle. And anyone who doesn't believe there was

1053
01:19:45,890 --> 01:19:53,630
voter fraud committed in the town of Northcastle is not seeing clearly. The stories make no sense and

1054
01:19:53,630 --> 01:19:57,990
the stories we were asked to believe are almost equally as offensive as the fact that the frog was

1055
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:59,970
in the first place because it's how bad.

1056
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,740
All it's got from point eight to point B with this date and that date. I mean, you'd have to be a wonderful magician and pull off a lot of stuff.

1057
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:29,140
And, you know, I just, I really, I'm a person. I, I strongly believe in Mike. I know there have been times I've been up here and you've had to work very hard to be decent to me. And I've always respected that. And I've appreciated that. And it's for that reason. And I feel the same way about Allison, because those were the two parts of the story that stuck out to me.

1058
01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:33,540
been living in this town for 10 years. I moved here before I was married before I had children.

1059
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:40,000
My husband grew up here and I never in a million years thought I would be standing here looking at

1060
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:47,880
the people in front of me feeling any sense of disappointment or anything other than, hey, this is

1061
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:55,680
my town board and I feel really proud and unfortunately, tonight I feel sad, second, disappointed,

1062
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,900
did discuss it and just shocked that there were people willing to sell their soul for something

1063
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:01,120
as small as a local election.

1064
01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:06,120
So maybe your souls were already gone before today, but if they weren't, they are now.

1065
01:21:06,740 --> 01:21:07,180
Thank you.

1066
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:07,760
Thanks, Jen.

1067
01:21:16,930 --> 01:21:17,810
Thank you.

1068
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:19,950
I want to congratulate you on your retirement.

1069
01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:21,630
I hope you really enjoy it.

1070
01:21:21,630 --> 01:21:22,510
I know you're worth it.

1071
01:21:22,710 --> 01:21:23,410
I know me too.

1072
01:21:23,490 --> 01:21:24,370
I'm retired from IBM.

1073
01:21:24,570 --> 01:21:25,150
I'm still working.

1074
01:21:25,150 --> 01:21:25,630
Don't work.

1075
01:21:25,810 --> 01:21:26,430
And ask my wife.

1076
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:31,290
But I'm a little disappointed in this election, I really am.

1077
01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:34,390
And I would like to know Barbara, when did you know

1078
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:36,930
that the use for ballots were flawed?

1079
01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:39,750
We supported you.

1080
01:21:42,610 --> 01:21:47,630
First of all, we normally don't respond during public comment.

1081
01:21:49,370 --> 01:21:57,070
But I totally disagree with what you're saying, and this is just not the appropriate venue

1082
01:21:57,070 --> 01:21:59,170
to discuss this.

1083
01:21:59,570 --> 01:22:03,110
I think there's a lot of misinformation that has been said tonight.

1084
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:06,770
There's been a lot of misinformation that has been stated in emails.

1085
01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:10,530
And I think it's really very, very unfortunate.

1086
01:22:11,270 --> 01:22:13,100
And I think that anyone that knows me,

1087
01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:19,710
knows that I am known for my integrity and my honesty.

1088
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:24,370
And if you think that I wanted to be supervisor, so badly,

1089
01:22:24,370 --> 01:22:35,090
that I would, as has been set in an email, orchestrated, voter fraud, then you don't know me, and I don't want to know you.

1090
01:22:49,540 --> 01:22:50,220
Anybody else?

1091
01:22:50,220 --> 01:22:51,100
Sue Schimer.

1092
01:22:52,460 --> 01:22:52,480
Judge?

1093
01:22:54,940 --> 01:22:56,220
Please remove this.

1094
01:23:02,140 --> 01:23:06,540
I think Mark Thomas will not be controversial.

1095
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,940
I've heard about it already a little today.

1096
01:23:09,940 --> 01:23:11,360
be evil.

1097
01:23:12,540 --> 01:23:13,600
We can't hear him.

1098
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:15,400
Just talk a little louder, Judge.

1099
01:23:16,220 --> 01:23:17,280
Can you hear me now?

1100
01:23:17,980 --> 01:23:18,340
Okay.

1101
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,400
My comments are not going to be controversial.

1102
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,660
I think from what I've been hearing in the room.

1103
01:23:23,780 --> 01:23:25,480
I'm going to talk about the eagle.

1104
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:32,340
The eagle, as is clear to everyone in this room,

1105
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,260
but perhaps not to our audience,

1106
01:23:36,220 --> 01:23:38,200
is a tradition in our town.

1107
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,220
a signature landmark since 1976.

1108
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,440
I was here, and that's why I speak about it.

1109
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:51,420
For the 76 celebration, I participated.

1110
01:23:52,780 --> 01:23:57,600
I spoke about freedom, about what our country can offer,

1111
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,320
and what we can offer to our country.

1112
01:24:02,380 --> 01:24:06,680
I talked about the wonder of America, our political system,

1113
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,080
which gives everyone the right to participate,

1114
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,080
the right to vote, and how lucky we are.

1115
01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:16,800
I asked that we rebuild that,

1116
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,580
and I'm sorry I have to use the word rebuild.

1117
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:23,640
And as a symbol of a new beginning,

1118
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,440
let us, what I heard in this room,

1119
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,180
is no disagreement, rebuild the eagle,

1120
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,220
which catastrophically, through man or otherwise,

1121
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:39,580
fell down. A detailed history of the

1122
01:24:39,580 --> 01:24:42,180
eel can be found in the publication of the North

1123
01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:51,080
Castle of Historical Society of 1996. It's available on the library. I suggest you read it.

1124
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:59,180
The idea for the eagle was developed by people who most of you don't know, but who I think were essential.

1125
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:19,360
To our town and to our town's history and through the evil and otherwise, our town's future was developed by Charles Elson, who designed staging for the Metropolitan Opera and ran the 76 celebration.

1126
01:25:20,460 --> 01:25:28,700
It was designed by Arthur Soca in celebration of the 200th birthday of our country.

1127
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:36,920
Many were involved in its construction, Elson Soca, and John Shnoor, who did so much to help

1128
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,420
restore Smith's tavern on his own time.

1129
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,020
Small replicas were carved by Michael Gressel,

1130
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:46,960
if you may know the name, Gressel Place.

1131
01:25:48,580 --> 01:25:51,060
Gressel was an award-winning internationally recognized

1132
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:51,760
sculptor.

1133
01:25:52,420 --> 01:25:56,820
By 1991, the eagle had deteriorated badly.

1134
01:25:57,940 --> 01:26:00,440
And a new eagle, the old one, was wood.

1135
01:26:01,340 --> 01:26:03,280
Identical and appearance of the original,

1136
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,680
but not in wood, was carved and placed.

1137
01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:21,500
Now let us not lose this history, let us not lose the symbol of our history, but it's

1138
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:29,060
sore, high as we move for a better world and a good town.

1139
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,160
Thank you.

1140
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:41,050
Anybody else on the list?

1141
01:26:41,150 --> 01:26:42,110
Mary, are you, Lucy?

1142
01:26:42,110 --> 01:26:44,990
Larry, take your microphone.

1143
01:26:58,140 --> 01:26:59,040
Oh, you like it?

1144
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,500
I got two reports here.

1145
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:05,620
I'm going to go with one.

1146
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:06,340
No, no, no.

1147
01:27:06,340 --> 01:27:09,060
I'll give you 30 seconds when you get the if you need that much time.

1148
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:10,040
No, I don't.

1149
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,480
No, I'm just going to go with the short one.

1150
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:14,500
First and foremost.

1151
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:18,880
Yeah, I'd like to thank you for your 16 years of service in this town.

1152
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,260
You know, working with you on the Budget and Finance Committee in the Planning Board,

1153
01:27:23,260 --> 01:27:31,380
It's been great. We've done some good things up the last 13 years. Towns and a great place today in

1154
01:27:31,380 --> 01:27:37,220
large part due to you. Thank you. You know, you've made a difference. And I thank you again.

1155
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:46,410
You know, I wish I could stop there, but I can't. So I'm gonna go on. With respect to the recent

1156
01:27:46,410 --> 01:27:54,750
election, most of you know, I ran for town board. But I did not win. I'm okay with that. And I'm sure

1157
01:27:54,750 --> 01:27:59,150
a lean who beat me by, I think, 32 votes, right?

1158
01:27:59,450 --> 01:28:03,910
We'll continue to do a great job representing the town of North Castle.

1159
01:28:05,210 --> 01:28:11,770
What I'm not okay with is a resident of this town making false allegations without knowing

1160
01:28:11,770 --> 01:28:19,390
any of the facts or circumstances about my son's right to vote in this town.

1161
01:28:19,390 --> 01:28:29,270
New York State election law clearly states that citizens with dual residences have the right to choose where they vote.

1162
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:38,050
My son has voted in what castle since he was 18 years old and will continue to do so until his circumstances change.

1163
01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:47,110
His status under New York State election law has been confirmed by an election law and we are prepared to defend it in court.

1164
01:28:53,590 --> 01:29:03,710
I could put a chart up there. I could put up names. I was so upset regarding the allegations concerning my son.

1165
01:29:04,250 --> 01:29:14,530
I decided to take a look at the request for absentee ballots for the North Castle for all the absentee ballots for the North Castle,

1166
01:29:14,530 --> 01:29:23,110
From town of Northcastle November 7th election, several wanted a detailed review.

1167
01:29:23,870 --> 01:29:29,470
The result of that review, which included obtaining copies of documents from the rest

1168
01:29:29,470 --> 01:29:35,550
just a board of election, and the engagement of a certified question document examiner,

1169
01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:38,810
produced some very troubling results.

1170
01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:44,710
This is not the right form to disclose detailed findings in names.

1171
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:46,350
I think it's inappropriate.

1172
01:29:47,950 --> 01:29:54,270
The results we made public in due course and the hypocrisy is beyond belief.

1173
01:29:55,550 --> 01:29:55,950
Thank you.

1174
01:29:55,950 --> 01:29:56,510
Thank you, Larry.

1175
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,260
I'm B.L. Salis on the list.

1176
01:30:06,620 --> 01:30:07,760
Bruce Weber.

1177
01:30:07,780 --> 01:30:08,200
Bruce?

1178
01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:10,540
You can pick your microphone, Bruce.

1179
01:30:18,830 --> 01:30:19,350
All right, buddy.

1180
01:30:19,670 --> 01:30:19,990
How are you?

1181
01:30:20,250 --> 01:30:20,730
I'm good.

1182
01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:22,430
My name is Bruce Weber.

1183
01:30:22,830 --> 01:30:24,710
I've lived in town for 40 years.

1184
01:30:25,190 --> 01:30:27,910
I've been the fire chief and a fire commissioner here in town.

1185
01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:32,230
I'd like to thank Mike for listening to all of us.

1186
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:35,710
Not just the squeaky wheels, not just the politicians,

1187
01:30:36,850 --> 01:30:38,230
or not just the voting blocks.

1188
01:30:39,310 --> 01:30:45,930
you really tried to make our town a better place to live. I know it wasn't easy

1189
01:30:45,930 --> 01:30:51,970
doing the right thing is never easy. Thank you very very much for all you've

1190
01:30:51,970 --> 01:30:54,310
given to our town. Thank you.

1191
01:31:02,090 --> 01:31:03,530
You know,

1192
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,200
Bob could you lay that down on the floor please.

1193
01:31:09,780 --> 01:31:11,620
Thank you.

1194
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:19,450
Syvashalara members of the town board. My name is Neil Balman. I lived in our

1195
01:31:19,450 --> 01:31:25,310
for 35 years, I've served as a volunteer in committees for sports leagues, the town, non-profit

1196
01:31:25,310 --> 01:31:33,230
organizations, I'm no stranger to serving this town. I can see very clearly, and my soul is

1197
01:31:33,230 --> 01:31:39,890
just fine. I've witnessed many elections in my 35 years in our monk into the best of my memory,

1198
01:31:40,030 --> 01:31:44,710
I've voted in all of them, I've voted for Democrats and Republicans. There was a time in this town

1199
01:31:44,710 --> 01:31:48,750
when people were honest in their campaigning, and when the election results came in,

1200
01:31:48,750 --> 01:31:52,590
everybody expressed goodwill and focused on what was best for the town.

1201
01:31:53,450 --> 01:31:56,050
Unfortunately, this is no longer the case for some people.

1202
01:31:57,570 --> 01:32:02,890
What we are witnessing here this evening is a political retribution circus, a political

1203
01:32:02,890 --> 01:32:07,550
attack designed to smear Mike Schillerl, a man who has served this town with distinction

1204
01:32:07,550 --> 01:32:10,210
for 16 years as a councilman and supervisor.

1205
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:13,910
It is also designed to smear other good and dedicated people.

1206
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:22,930
They seek not just to win, but to politically smear and remove those who oppose them, and anyone who stands in the way of their agenda.

1207
01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:30,770
These attacks are cleverly designed as a righteous ethical response to a perceived unethical act.

1208
01:32:31,530 --> 01:32:32,650
Don't believe them.

1209
01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:42,010
For 16 years, as a councilman and a supervisor, Michael Schillero has accomplished much, a Assemblyman verdict, listed all of them, and I won't repeat them.

1210
01:32:42,010 --> 01:32:48,490
But now, but none of this now matters to a small group of politically active people in town.

1211
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:52,530
You see, for some people, might commit a political mortal sin.

1212
01:32:53,130 --> 01:32:57,330
He reached across political lines and endorsed candidates for another party,

1213
01:32:57,750 --> 01:32:59,830
causing a razor-thin election result.

1214
01:33:01,330 --> 01:33:05,830
There were times in this town when both political parties endorsed each other in the same year.

1215
01:33:06,430 --> 01:33:09,710
Mike Shaliro did this because he felt it was best for the town.

1216
01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:13,110
Now, he and others are paying the price.

1217
01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:16,730
So as everyone watches, these accusations unfold.

1218
01:33:16,910 --> 01:33:19,810
It's important to understand what is behind all of this.

1219
01:33:20,330 --> 01:33:25,010
For some, retribution, intimidation, and power is what this is all about.

1220
01:33:25,990 --> 01:33:30,130
In fact, this group seeks to destroy the reputations of Supervisor Shaliro,

1221
01:33:30,130 --> 01:33:35,730
Councilman, Degisanto, Town Clark Simon, and other dedicated town servants, like Larry

1222
01:33:35,730 --> 01:33:36,770
or E.C.

1223
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:45,900
What this says more, what they're doing says far more negatively about their own

1224
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:51,040
character and motivation, not about the character and motivation to whom they assault.

1225
01:33:54,980 --> 01:33:55,380
The people

1226
01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:59,900
who are currently attacking your integrity and trying to drag you and your families through the mud

1227
01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:05,300
will not succeed in the end. The majority of this town appreciates and supports you and the

1228
01:34:05,300 --> 01:34:06,700
others who are being smeared.

1229
01:34:07,180 --> 01:34:11,040
They view what is happening as vile, odious and disgraceful.

1230
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:17,080
The attacks will probably intensify and social media.

1231
01:34:17,380 --> 01:34:20,260
I'll be on the enemies list of few of us in this room

1232
01:34:20,260 --> 01:34:21,840
are already on it.

1233
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:25,800
But for those who know you all and the others being attacked,

1234
01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:28,140
and truly understand what is happening,

1235
01:34:28,780 --> 01:34:31,920
we stand with you against these falsehoods.

1236
01:34:31,940 --> 01:34:33,980
And closing, I want to thank you, supervisor Schiller,

1237
01:34:33,980 --> 01:34:38,840
for you many years of service to the town, for your hard work, your dedication, your sacrifice

1238
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:44,320
and for your integrity, and one final thing to say to you, Mike, and to your wonderful family.

1239
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:50,340
If I had to pick a few people from my three adult children to model themselves after,

1240
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:55,700
one of those people would be you. I would be pleased if all of them had your character,

1241
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,920
your integrity and your honesty. Thank you.

1242
01:35:09,900 --> 01:35:10,800
Aye, nor are men really?

1243
01:35:13,230 --> 01:35:20,230
Aye, nor are cans manually from North White Plains. I simply came here to say thank you.

1244
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:23,930
Thank you, Mike, for all you've done for the town of North Castle.

1245
01:35:24,650 --> 01:35:34,510
But, especially close to my heart, I thank you for helping us to preserve a section of Mount Missouri in North White Plains.

1246
01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:45,170
Mount Missouri is where our American Revolutionary War soldiers retreated to safety, to live, and fight another day.

1247
01:35:45,730 --> 01:35:49,310
And that was the big turn in the American Revolutionary War.

1248
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:55,910
And so for that I want to give you a book written by Joseph Plum Martin.

1249
01:35:56,130 --> 01:36:02,310
He was the soldier who had a miserable, awful, cold, wet night,

1250
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:20,130
He writes about it in this book, page 48, I marked it for you, and I also put in some newspaper articles from back in the 30s when they talked about preserving Mount Missouri and it didn't happen.

1251
01:36:21,070 --> 01:36:28,190
It took decades later under a Mike's leadership for us to preserve a section of Mount Missouri.

1252
01:36:28,190 --> 01:36:34,390
So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can never thank you enough. Thank you.

1253
01:36:39,730 --> 01:36:43,510
But that misery is preserved because of Nora. Yes.

1254
01:36:45,850 --> 01:36:48,970
It's true because of Barbara D. Jacinto.

1255
01:36:50,350 --> 01:36:50,970
That's true. Thank you.

1256
01:36:51,550 --> 01:36:58,330
But thank you. I also want to thank you on behalf of my relatives that are no longer with us.

1257
01:36:58,550 --> 01:37:02,410
But I know they're looking down and they're very happy too.

1258
01:37:02,410 --> 01:37:07,430
Appreciate that. Thank you. Allison, if you were to pass that to my room, that's your copy of Mike.

1259
01:37:07,490 --> 01:37:08,270
Thank you so much.

1260
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:09,630
You'll have time to read it now.

1261
01:37:10,810 --> 01:37:13,230
Well, thank you again.

1262
01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:15,410
Thank you.

1263
01:37:15,870 --> 01:37:16,690
Allison, hello.

1264
01:37:16,830 --> 01:37:16,970
Hello.

1265
01:37:16,970 --> 01:37:17,030
Hello.

1266
01:37:18,090 --> 01:37:19,150
That's for the sustainable.

1267
01:37:19,290 --> 01:37:20,110
Oh, there you wait.

1268
01:37:20,610 --> 01:37:21,090
Yeah, wait.

1269
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:22,250
You had a jack.

1270
01:37:23,410 --> 01:37:24,290
Um, might for already?

1271
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:35,100
Well, it's been 50 years since I came to warm up for the same reason.

1272
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,820
mark that you came here.

1273
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:44,660
It's been a pleasure. Some of the times, not at all the time.

1274
01:37:46,140 --> 01:37:49,880
To work with the ones that make up my family right next to you.

1275
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,840
I stand back.

1276
01:37:53,220 --> 01:37:56,780
But I do want to thank you. We disagreed on a lot of things.

1277
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:04,580
But I can honestly say, well, my kids are better place than it was before you were super

1278
01:38:04,580 --> 01:38:08,000
So, I thank you for all the things that you've done.

1279
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:15,460
I think of another great man that was Supervisor in his town, Jack Lombardi.

1280
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:22,300
And he reclosed second of anything he's done in his town as he was.

1281
01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:32,180
I want to thank and congratulate the people who did get elected this election.

1282
01:38:32,180 --> 01:38:32,980
It's

1283
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:44,820
clear that Jose and Celine won by a fair majority and congratulations to you.

1284
01:38:44,820 --> 01:38:51,050
You weren't my choices to be publicly fried, but I say it the way it is.

1285
01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:51,890
I always do.

1286
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:53,750
Mike, I don't think I can live with that.

1287
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:59,950
But any event I'm looking forward to working with you in a future.

1288
01:39:01,130 --> 01:39:04,650
I do have other projects coming forward in the town.

1289
01:39:04,650 --> 01:39:11,970
And hopefully I'll get your support, but whatever the cash may be, it is, what it is, in

1290
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:12,390
Barbara,

1291
01:39:14,590 --> 01:39:22,250
I thank you also and Joe, whoever wins this election, I think because it's so

1292
01:39:22,250 --> 01:39:29,390
close and it's just one boat apart, maybe two, maybe three, whatever the case may be.

1293
01:39:29,390 --> 01:39:37,070
I think it's a real asset to our community that we were able to have a election that was so close,

1294
01:39:37,610 --> 01:39:41,830
which means that we had two very qualified candidates.

1295
01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:44,850
And that's what I've taken out of this election.

1296
01:39:45,490 --> 01:39:55,750
I'm so sorry for all of the anger and the disparity that is coming through right now,

1297
01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:59,590
and we've experienced that tonight as well.

1298
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:15,000
On Bob Green, for at least 40 years, I consider Bob a great guy, a great leader. And he has his ability and

1299
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:25,340
he has his thoughts that he needs to follow. And Larry, we see, I've known him for a lot of years. And I think

1300
01:40:25,340 --> 01:40:34,300
He's a great guy, but there seems to be some improprietives, potentially, and they need to

1301
01:40:34,300 --> 01:40:36,620
get shaken out for whatever they are.

1302
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:46,400
I hope the accusations that have been made are not true, but what I do know is that we

1303
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:52,480
need to go forward, and we need to go forward in the best way that we can.

1304
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:58,520
I don't want our town to be anything like what we see on Washington.

1305
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:07,240
Our town is better than that, and it needs to be worked on to continue in a positive

1306
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:08,580
way.

1307
01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:15,740
Whoever the supervisor is going to pay, and I'm sure through the Board of Elections,

1308
01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:22,460
the

1309
01:41:22,460 --> 01:41:25,800
Dolly elected supervisor will be the supervisor.

1310
01:41:27,820 --> 01:41:35,900
On another said, part, I go back with Jacqueline Barney when the ego had been put up.

1311
01:41:36,460 --> 01:41:47,420
And Jack came to me and said, Mike, we need to light the ego and he gave me that job

1312
01:41:47,420 --> 01:41:50,140
of getting the eagle lit,

1313
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,140
and after a period of time, we re-let it.

1314
01:41:56,500 --> 01:42:01,280
So it's been, I've been somewhat familiar with the eagle for a long time.

1315
01:42:01,740 --> 01:42:07,380
At the same time, the eagle right outside the front entrance of our town hall.

1316
01:42:07,460 --> 01:42:08,720
Thirty seconds, Mike.

1317
01:42:09,660 --> 01:42:16,340
I also hung, which was done by a guy who the sculptor was, but we were in a residential

1318
01:42:16,340 --> 01:42:26,140
community. I'd like to ask the board and you if I could be responsible for getting the

1319
01:42:26,140 --> 01:42:30,120
Eagle Rehong and Re-let. And I think

1320
01:42:32,620 --> 01:42:38,160
I'd like to take that responsibility on and I'd like

1321
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:47,080
to, I'm this point forward, if I should be able to get that done. It'll remind me of this

1322
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:54,200
tonight. And I think it should become a new beginning for a town. And let's bury the hatchet.

1323
01:42:54,600 --> 01:43:03,840
Let's bury all this animosity and anger that we've seen here tonight. Our town is better than it.

1324
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:10,200
So that's what I ask you tonight. Your town board, if you'll give me your authority to get it done,

1325
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,400
I would appreciate it. Thank you, Mike.

1326
01:43:18,510 --> 01:43:20,030
I'll leave that to 2024.

1327
01:43:24,090 --> 01:43:24,530
I

1328
01:43:31,090 --> 01:43:34,850
want to meet five minutes, I don't put you on the clock.

1329
01:43:35,110 --> 01:43:35,670
Let me on the clock.

1330
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:39,330
Let me get these glasses out of you.

1331
01:43:40,650 --> 01:43:42,230
Mike, members of the town board.

1332
01:43:42,690 --> 01:43:43,590
Thank you for your service.

1333
01:43:44,190 --> 01:43:45,650
And thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

1334
01:43:46,910 --> 01:43:47,970
My name is Rockler Trano.

1335
01:43:48,150 --> 01:43:50,570
I'm a resident of Armok for 32 years.

1336
01:43:51,170 --> 01:43:52,750
I'm also a business owner in Armok.

1337
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:55,890
I'm a prisoner of St. Pat's Church with Mike.

1338
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:59,890
And I served on the Paris Council, the CYO Board, and many other committees.

1339
01:44:00,950 --> 01:44:06,190
I'm also the past Board Member of the Armant Little League, which I served for 10 years,

1340
01:44:06,730 --> 01:44:08,150
and three of those years as commissioner.

1341
01:44:12,010 --> 01:44:14,490
I'm not here tonight to talk about elections.

1342
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:19,030
I'm not here to talk about any town business.

1343
01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:22,690
I'm here tonight to specifically honor my friend Mike.

1344
01:44:22,690 --> 01:44:24,610
we like Mike.

1345
01:44:26,830 --> 01:44:33,010
I first wanted to thank Laurie, Paul, Emma, Gina, for lending us Mike for

1346
01:44:33,010 --> 01:44:38,590
the last 16 years. The sacrifice you've all made through the years are immeasurable.

1347
01:44:39,470 --> 01:44:46,570
Thank you all and I love you. I've known Mike for 20 plus years and it's been an honor

1348
01:44:46,570 --> 01:44:54,210
call him my friend. I've never met a person with such passion about everything he does.

1349
01:44:55,010 --> 01:44:58,610
And he showed it over the last 16 years in how he served this town.

1350
01:45:00,530 --> 01:45:08,210
When Mike took over a supervisor, I was very upset, because he spoiled a source of entertainment for me.

1351
01:45:08,930 --> 01:45:15,310
Prior to Mike being a supervisor, I would watch town board meetings because they were very entertaining to say the least.

1352
01:45:17,110 --> 01:45:25,810
When Mike took over, he made the meetings boring. There was no drama, no arguing, just business as usual.

1353
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:32,830
Michael always respected his fellow board members, even if he did not agree with them or

1354
01:45:32,830 --> 01:45:41,530
anything they said. Respect is the key word there, and Michael lives his life with that

1355
01:45:41,530 --> 01:45:49,630
for all. Mike has been an amazing supervisor, and we are all better now that he is, we are

1356
01:45:49,630 --> 01:45:51,990
all better now than when he took over.

1357
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,440
Barbara said it before, I'm just going to reiterate,

1358
01:45:56,940 --> 01:46:03,980
Mike's license plate does say be decent, a phrase that he learned from his father, and I remember

1359
01:46:03,980 --> 01:46:09,980
when Mike told me the story about how his dad would just say be decent. It's not that hard.

1360
01:46:11,780 --> 01:46:17,080
He lives his life every day by that motto, and if we could all learn one thing from Mike,

1361
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:24,800
it would be just be decent. Mike, I just want to say thank you again, and I'm looking forward

1362
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:30,720
to more free time so we can play some more golf we can have some more cigars and

1363
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:36,780
bourbon and just enjoy life a little bit more you deserve a pal I love you.

1364
01:46:46,380 --> 01:46:48,980
A couple more George Friedman.

1365
01:46:57,780 --> 01:46:58,980
Thank you.

1366
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:00,160
My name is George Friedman.

1367
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:04,340
I've been a 10 resident here for about 23 years raised my family here.

1368
01:47:04,540 --> 01:47:05,540
I love the place.

1369
01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:10,000
I've never read you before but everything I see I've done a hell of a job and you have a lot of friends

1370
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,100
a lot of supporters. That's a very good reflection on you. God bless you and your family.

1371
01:47:15,900 --> 01:47:21,940
All right. So I'm here not being a party to either sides of this equation or this dilemma,

1372
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,660
but I'm here to offer, first of all, most of the character reference to Alps and Simon,

1373
01:47:26,780 --> 01:47:30,600
who I've had the pleasure of knowing for the whole time I've been here all along for 22 years.

1374
01:47:31,740 --> 01:47:36,740
This is easy. The reason this is easy is because to get up here and say something that's highly

1375
01:47:36,740 --> 01:47:42,000
Flattering of Allison. This is easy to do. I've known her for a long time. She's raised

1376
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,600
it impeccable, family, and I'll tell you, we'll all be a lot better off if there were

1377
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:51,720
a hell of a lot more people out there like Allison Simon. So see, you're denigrated in this

1378
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:57,440
manner, is absurd. If there's any documentation, could we report up to bear, that could

1379
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:02,200
any in any way shape or form prove that she isn't guilty of any complexity or any duplicity

1380
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:08,600
do any other nonsense in the election fraud, I'd love to see it, because having worked

1381
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,580
in the news media business for a long time, I can tell you, I'll take a very skeptical

1382
01:48:12,580 --> 01:48:13,680
eye to it.

1383
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:25,310
I don't know who had where what and when, but if there's any kind of documented tribulations

1384
01:48:25,850 --> 01:48:31,570
that are brought to bear here, that in any way shape a form impacts Alison, people guilty

1385
01:48:31,570 --> 01:48:35,250
of it, she'd be forced to resign and then to do so in disgrace.

1386
01:48:36,570 --> 01:48:37,210
Simple as that.

1387
01:48:37,310 --> 01:48:39,030
Allison is one of the finest people I know.

1388
01:48:39,290 --> 01:48:40,650
She's raised an impeccable family.

1389
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:44,710
She, I mean, here, the biggest compliment I could play someone is simply this.

1390
01:48:45,110 --> 01:48:48,570
I'd be honored if my son was so lucky to marry someone like Allison Simon.

1391
01:48:49,150 --> 01:48:49,810
Simple as that.

1392
01:48:49,950 --> 01:48:51,810
I can't be any more.

1393
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,070
I can't be any more blunder dread than that.

1394
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:56,910
I'd be honored if my son could marry someone like this.

1395
01:48:57,390 --> 01:48:58,810
And I don't know what else I can say that,

1396
01:48:58,810 --> 01:49:02,530
that could just prop up the character of this very fine room

1397
01:49:02,530 --> 01:49:05,290
as absolutely no business being maligned

1398
01:49:05,290 --> 01:49:09,830
over anything by anybody, and you can take that to the back.

1399
01:49:09,970 --> 01:49:10,670
Thank you.

1400
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:11,470
Thank you.

1401
01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:18,050
Thank you.

1402
01:49:18,810 --> 01:49:19,830
What was the name?

1403
01:49:19,950 --> 01:49:20,930
Donna Friedman.

1404
01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:25,490
Hello, I'm Donna Friedman.

1405
01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:30,370
Mike, I've gotten to know you through your emails.

1406
01:49:30,690 --> 01:49:33,270
I love how you end them with your dog and your family

1407
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:35,590
and lots of locking your future endeavors.

1408
01:49:35,590 --> 01:49:42,710
As my husband said, everything that's been said about you has reflected really one flight.

1409
01:49:44,350 --> 01:49:52,630
I'm also here to support my friend, Allison Simon. Allison is a pillar of the community at every level.

1410
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:59,970
Whether it was a school function, whether it was a team function, if it was a football game, basketball game, she was her first.

1411
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:05,680
First one, servant, food, standing out in the cold, given her scarf to somebody at every level,

1412
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:12,400
Allison has always been the most selfless person I know. In our religious community, Allison

1413
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:23,300
attends every service, her and her husband have visited Russia and collected items to give to orphans,

1414
01:50:23,420 --> 01:50:29,240
they visited orphans, they take people in, they are so charitable. I've never seen a family

1415
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:33,520
give of themselves so much.

1416
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,140
Therefore, children, one is more impeccable than the other,

1417
01:50:38,180 --> 01:50:40,280
one is more impressive than the other.

1418
01:50:40,740 --> 01:50:47,470
Allison is also not only charitable with her time,

1419
01:50:47,850 --> 01:50:50,870
but she's charitable in every way.

1420
01:50:51,570 --> 01:50:57,070
And I have to say everything that was said is just,

1421
01:50:57,310 --> 01:50:59,730
it can't be true. I can't even believe it.

1422
01:50:59,730 --> 01:51:05,270
I'll take a page out of my cousin to any playbook, go in the back there and find my signature.

1423
01:51:06,010 --> 01:51:13,090
Go find my signature from 2014 and compare to 2023. I assure you that they are not going to look alike.

1424
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,800
It's the craziest thing. The kids are in high school when they sign these things.

1425
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,620
My signature changes from week to week.

1426
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,340
And believe me, my signature is awful.

1427
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:33,340
But I cannot say enough about how impressive a person else in Simon is.

1428
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:42,440
I can't imagine anyone saying anything bad about Allison and Mr. Greene, you are way off.

1429
01:51:55,660 --> 01:51:56,900
You had your five minutes, Mark?

1430
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:58,220
It was in the firm, Mark.

1431
01:51:59,020 --> 01:51:59,240
Linda?

1432
01:52:06,140 --> 01:52:07,780
Thank you very much for fitting me.

1433
01:52:09,260 --> 01:52:10,520
I didn't start the clock yet.

1434
01:52:11,220 --> 01:52:12,240
Wait, I got to get the picture.

1435
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:13,680
You're going to take your time.

1436
01:52:18,270 --> 01:52:19,310
Got here a little late.

1437
01:52:19,610 --> 01:52:20,550
Was that another function?

1438
01:52:22,150 --> 01:52:25,850
So I'm glad I did get a chance to speak though, although I'm a little

1439
01:52:25,850 --> 01:52:29,870
He surprised he didn't really get going yet.

1440
01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:30,450
Right.

1441
01:52:30,450 --> 01:52:31,070
Now you're on.

1442
01:52:31,170 --> 01:52:31,490
Now I'm on.

1443
01:52:33,630 --> 01:52:39,710
So I've been on the board on the Northcastle Democratic Committee for 14 years,

1444
01:52:40,050 --> 01:52:40,910
joins in 2010.

1445
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:44,350
And Mike was already sitting as a board member.

1446
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:56,440
And then 10 years ago, as my neighbor, Rocco, referred to watching town board meetings, I say people watch them for sport.

1447
01:52:58,220 --> 01:53:06,220
And there was a lot of instability and Mike, along with Barry Reiter, and Jose, and Barbara.

1448
01:53:07,630 --> 01:53:11,130
We ran a cohesive campaign,

1449
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:18,120
sorry, to bring sanity back to this ten.

1450
01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:23,500
Well, Rocco says meetings are boring now, it's true, but it was necessary.

1451
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:28,300
And, you know, Mike served through two financial meltdowns.

1452
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:32,620
Think about it, you know, you think about what's happened in the last,

1453
01:53:32,620 --> 01:53:36,900
I went to what it was born in 2000, so 23 years.

1454
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:44,380
And I've been a resident here for 35 years now, this was Santa.

1455
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:53,880
We've been through a lot in the last 20-some odd years, and our town is doing very well.

1456
01:53:57,650 --> 01:54:05,770
And Mike's the reason why his calm head, let me go back to where his bourbon was, the supervise

1457
01:54:05,770 --> 01:54:13,330
when you first on the board, but Mike's calm head and financial sensibility has led this

1458
01:54:13,330 --> 01:54:17,090
town for the last 10 years.

1459
01:54:17,350 --> 01:54:22,510
No, and 14, 16 total, the first meltdown was when he was still a board member.

1460
01:54:24,270 --> 01:54:31,530
So being a political junkie and having a degree in political science and having worked

1461
01:54:31,530 --> 01:54:34,710
on, probably close to, or at least 20 campaigns in my lifetime.

1462
01:54:36,050 --> 01:54:40,150
When Mike first got elected, I called it the Shaleero effect.

1463
01:54:41,710 --> 01:54:46,290
And it's because of his reputation, not just his reputation,

1464
01:54:47,310 --> 01:54:52,350
his relationships with people, same paths, sports, and C4.

1465
01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:55,830
I'm sure there are plenty of Republicans that

1466
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:59,970
for you, conservatives, Democrats, and everybody in...

1467
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,380
In between and whatever. And working on your behalf to get you elected has always been a joy.

1468
01:55:11,180 --> 01:55:29,660
So I told you, I wish you were hanging around for two more years. That was my wish as the chair co-chair. I was then chair, now co-chair of the committee of the Democrats. And I understand you have to leave some time and you know.

1469
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:37,000
with regret for us, but I'm glad that you can get on with your life and having to live it.

1470
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:45,120
I always usually start by thanking your wife and your children, because I grew up in a family

1471
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:51,000
where, from the time I was four to 10, my mom worked for Dick Onger, he was congressman.

1472
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:56,220
And I remember her always being on the phone and always being going to a meeting and always going somewhere

1473
01:55:56,220 --> 01:55:58,180
and I lived in campaign court headquarters.

1474
01:55:58,700 --> 01:56:01,880
My mother was the district representative for him,

1475
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,160
so I lived in his offices.

1476
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,580
And it's all encompassing and all consuming.

1477
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,540
And it's a different way of life and it can be hard.

1478
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,560
But I also want to say, I wasn't here earlier,

1479
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,860
so I didn't see what's been presented.

1480
01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:21,560
but I

1481
01:56:24,180 --> 01:56:34,400
choose not to judge somebody by one thing in their life that

1482
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:41,240
the totality of your 16 years

1483
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:50,460
in this town should serve for a lot. And I've had other people in my life that may badness

1484
01:56:50,460 --> 01:56:58,540
take, but there's still my friends, and I hope you, I'm sure you will repay my friend.

1485
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,260
So I urge people, 30, okay.

1486
01:57:03,780 --> 01:57:11,300
So I just urge people to think of the totality of Mike's career here, how much he helped

1487
01:57:11,300 --> 01:57:20,340
this town, and anybody, anybody who has something in their life that went wrong, made

1488
01:57:20,340 --> 01:57:26,520
mistake, however you want to put it, I choose not to judge somebody by their worst moment,

1489
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:31,080
but by all their pest moments, and I'll leave with that.

1490
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:32,460
Thank you.

1491
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:46,280
That's it.

1492
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,020
I'd like to say one thing.

1493
01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:49,160
Sure.

1494
01:57:49,780 --> 01:57:50,400
I'd like to.

1495
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,320
This is something I've shared with people close to me.

1496
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:54,580
I haven't shared publicly.

1497
01:57:56,060 --> 01:57:59,560
But I think it might give you an example of who I am.

1498
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:06,220
those of you that question my integrity. Sunday night before election, Monday night before

1499
01:58:06,220 --> 01:58:13,040
election day, I received a text from someone very close to me. In the person wrote,

1500
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:21,420
I am going to be at the polls at 6 a.m. to vote for you because I have a busy day and I don't

1501
01:58:21,420 --> 01:58:22,720
want to miss voting.

1502
01:58:25,390 --> 01:58:29,090
And my response was, and it was too late to call the person by the time I saw

1503
01:58:29,090 --> 01:58:39,570
text, my response and all caps was, do not vote until we speak tomorrow morning, call me

1504
01:58:39,570 --> 01:58:43,680
as soon as you get up. And so the person did.

1505
01:58:45,710 --> 01:58:47,590
And I say to the person, you know, we have

1506
01:58:47,590 --> 01:58:48,730
had this argument,

1507
01:58:51,830 --> 01:59:00,650
your address with the Board of Elections in Northcastle is not your address

1508
01:59:00,650 --> 01:59:08,690
now. If you don't get this straightened out before 9 p.m. tonight, I don't want you voting for me.

1509
01:59:09,290 --> 01:59:17,370
I don't want any controversy about any vote connected to me. And I said, if you want,

1510
01:59:17,470 --> 01:59:23,710
the press was, well, I stop. Don't vote for me. And so what I did was I called the Board of

1511
01:59:23,710 --> 01:59:32,630
at 9 o'clock, explain the situation. They said, tell this person to go to this voting place,

1512
01:59:34,230 --> 01:59:41,990
and this person will vote by affidavit ballot. It took about a half an hour, 45 minutes. I

1513
01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:49,610
heard all the grumbling afterwards, but nevertheless, this person voted the way he should have voted

1514
01:59:49,610 --> 01:59:54,510
from using his correct address using the correct pole.

1515
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:59,550
And I think about it. Could I have lost a vote? Absolutely.

1516
02:00:00,590 --> 02:00:24,990
And would I be grudge that? No, I would not. Because that's who I am. I am straight as an arrow. And so it really bothers me when people think that I have orchestrated voter fraud that I've turned a blind eye. Once again, it's not who I am. And I don't think it's what Northcastle was all about. Thank you.

1517
02:00:35,140 --> 02:00:38,180
Anybody else want to say anything before we move on?

1518
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:39,160
I'll say something.

1519
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,720
So I was at the hearings.

1520
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,260
For the case that Joe brought, I attended both days.

1521
02:00:47,700 --> 02:00:51,320
There was Tuesday, which ran basically all day with breaks in between.

1522
02:00:52,340 --> 02:00:57,380
And there was also Friday, after Tuesday, we ended up going to the Board of Elections

1523
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,580
And ballots were counted except the ones that were set aside.

1524
02:01:02,500 --> 02:01:05,160
And the reason they were set aside is the judge ruled on the record

1525
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:09,620
that there was clear and convincing evidence of the reputable harm

1526
02:01:09,620 --> 02:01:10,800
to the plaintiff cell.

1527
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,320
Judge did not rule that.

1528
02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:14,700
The judge did not rule that.

1529
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,840
I'm not going to allow him to lie on the Senate.

1530
02:01:18,140 --> 02:01:19,240
This is unacceptable.

1531
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:20,040
But I'm finished.

1532
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:21,140
It's time for it, member.

1533
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:22,300
And he's lying.

1534
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:23,640
But I'm finished.

1535
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:25,240
He's not making that ruling.

1536
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:27,140
Why would I let him finish?

1537
02:01:27,380 --> 02:01:27,860
He's lying.

1538
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,000
Let him finish, and then you can make your comment.

1539
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:30,840
You were there.

1540
02:01:30,860 --> 02:01:32,140
You were supporting Joe.

1541
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:33,620
I saw you there the whole time.

1542
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:35,220
But you were not.

1543
02:01:35,380 --> 02:01:37,260
The judge did not make a ruling.

1544
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:39,580
On the record, they did Tuesday afternoon.

1545
02:01:39,740 --> 02:01:40,400
It's in the transcript.

1546
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:41,760
Didn't make a ruling.

1547
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:45,240
So, went to the board of elections.

1548
02:01:46,860 --> 02:01:48,860
And all the ballots, except for four or five,

1549
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,040
if we get how many of us were counted.

1550
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,980
and Joe went up from being one up to three up.

1551
02:01:55,020 --> 02:01:59,100
So I agree with some aspects of what a couple of people, in particular, said,

1552
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:01,560
I like Sue Miller's message.

1553
02:02:02,660 --> 02:02:06,900
I think social media can be terrible in terms of distorting things.

1554
02:02:08,060 --> 02:02:09,460
Why didn't you stop it?

1555
02:02:09,740 --> 02:02:11,180
I didn't do anything with it.

1556
02:02:11,260 --> 02:02:12,140
I'm not an social media.

1557
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:13,760
It's not.

1558
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,500
My unayne name, I don't think.

1559
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,620
But there's a way that you could have stopped it.

1560
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:29,000
Anyway, I don't think I really could have stopped it, and I'm not sure it really should have

1561
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:29,420
been stopped.

1562
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:33,760
So I also think that we need to move forward.

1563
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,880
The other person I agree with in part is Mike Ferrari.

1564
02:02:37,740 --> 02:02:45,160
He and I, I think we could say pretty safely, don't always agree, but I think it's important

1565
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:51,120
And to go ahead, first we said, I think need to shake things out, need to have things

1566
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:53,200
shaken out, but we need to move forward.

1567
02:02:54,080 --> 02:03:05,380
In my view, I think it's easier to do that if people honestly confront what actually happened.

1568
02:03:06,180 --> 02:03:16,180
So, I think a lot of, excuse me, Bob Greena's saying is accurate, and I think it's important

1569
02:03:16,180 --> 02:03:20,240
for us to really get the bottom of it because this is something really serious.

1570
02:03:21,980 --> 02:03:23,460
So, you're using Susan, do you want to come?

1571
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:33,920
The authority on the board to disseminate improper information, it's noted, you're lying to

1572
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:42,280
public on the board. Using your position of authority. Another level of harassment. Thank you.

1573
02:03:42,380 --> 02:03:45,900
Thank you, Jose. I read the transcripts.

1574
02:03:46,220 --> 02:03:51,360
Michael, I'm not, I'm not done. One second. Dave, one second. Thank you.

1575
02:03:51,380 --> 02:03:54,340
Jose, you have more to say? How much time do I have left?

1576
02:03:54,500 --> 02:03:57,260
Oh, actually, I'm not. I'm not on a public comment, so you can comment.

1577
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:03,520
Right. So anyway, I'm all for moving forward. But when there are serious problems,

1578
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,280
I think it's important to confront it, and I think everybody should read the transcript.

1579
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:11,740
I'll let go ahead and I might come back afterwards.

1580
02:04:20,050 --> 02:04:20,750
Did you want to speak?

1581
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:22,550
Yes, I do.

1582
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:27,380
On 1231.

1583
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:28,420
What's this one saying?

1584
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:31,020
We don't want to talk about his attack on?

1585
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:31,800
I don't.

1586
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:37,460
So.

1587
02:04:40,220 --> 02:04:42,500
You just have to come up, tell us who you are.

1588
02:04:42,500 --> 02:04:43,600
Yeah, sure.

1589
02:04:43,740 --> 02:04:44,580
My name's John Schneider.

1590
02:04:45,060 --> 02:04:54,860
First time here, I don't believe I know anybody in your new gear, so I think I come from

1591
02:04:54,860 --> 02:04:59,240
this with a perspective of not knowing any of the parties involved.

1592
02:05:01,340 --> 02:05:05,280
So, my question, I don't know if this can be a Q&A, but where are we?

1593
02:05:05,300 --> 02:05:10,520
Not it's a public comment. My concern is that I'm not quite sure where we are in this process.

1594
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:20,680
Hearing both sides, both arguments, and not sure if this is being settled by a judge, or if this is being settled by the board, or where we are in this process.

1595
02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:28,120
So from a concern, citizen of the town, who is not as politically active as perhaps many of you are,

1596
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:32,060
I'm concerned about where we're going from here and what the process is from here.

1597
02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:35,780
I have a feeling that there are a lot of people in town like me that don't know what's

1598
02:05:35,780 --> 02:05:39,380
going on and perhaps further clarification would be helpful.

1599
02:05:39,660 --> 02:05:47,260
And one thing that's from my concern, because I don't know you or you or you and the testimony

1600
02:05:47,260 --> 02:05:52,600
that we've heard from everybody, is incredibly beautiful for all three of you and I admire

1601
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,140
what you guys have done and what's been said about you.

1602
02:05:55,140 --> 02:06:02,200
But, quite frankly, it's almost irrelevant if there's been an issue or if there's been a,

1603
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:08,520
I want to say, crime, but a deception that went on. I hope that's not the case.

1604
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:15,840
I hope that's not the truth, but I would imagine that a judge or someone in a higher office would

1605
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,080
there's a kind of an election official or something like that that could sell this once in

1606
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:26,420
So, I hope it thick the tensions and the emotions should be removed and it should be settled by an election official.

1607
02:06:26,820 --> 02:06:27,300
That's quite

1608
02:06:29,380 --> 02:06:29,560
tough.

1609
02:06:29,780 --> 02:06:35,280
So, not a response to that, but you want to just give it up because I don't know the update from the board of elections.

1610
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:44,360
The Board of Elections in white planes began a recount today, and I did not attend, but my attorney did.

1611
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,160
And my understanding is at the end of the day,

1612
02:06:47,660 --> 02:06:52,900
they had only done voting districts 1, 2, 3, and 4.

1613
02:06:53,500 --> 02:06:58,600
There was no change, and therefore, my opponent is still leading by three votes.

1614
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:04,100
You're at a time when, I'm sorry, you can come back at the end of the week.

1615
02:07:04,180 --> 02:07:05,700
Can I explain what's going on?

1616
02:07:06,340 --> 02:07:06,800
No, no.

1617
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:07,600
Why doesn't Joe?

1618
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:08,960
He can.

1619
02:07:09,340 --> 02:07:10,860
If he wants to speak, raise my hand.

1620
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:19,480
It's telling everybody he or her job?

1621
02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:20,400
Yeah, I will.

1622
02:07:21,260 --> 02:07:23,620
Joseph Rundee, 25 Smith Farm Road.

1623
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,040
So I came tonight really to listen.

1624
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,160
I wasn't planning on speaking.

1625
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:40,120
There were several inaccuracies on what transpired.

1626
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:46,840
So I'd like to maybe try to put some of those issues to rest.

1627
02:07:47,940 --> 02:07:56,640
On election night at just before 12 midnight, our last communication with the Board of

1628
02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:03,760
Elections had me leading at that moment by 11 votes.

1629
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:13,480
We were of the understanding that the Board of Elections would not start counting any absentee ballots

1630
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:23,620
or affidavit ballots that had already been in the possession of the Board of Elections until some time later that week.

1631
02:08:24,580 --> 02:08:50,280
In election law, there's a ruling, which call is referred to as the seven day ruling, which means that seven days after the election, whatever ballots were collected up until that point, then would be counted on that seven day, so that would have brought it to the 14th of November.

1632
02:08:51,420 --> 02:09:02,280
loan behold when we woke up on Wednesday morning my lead had gone from 11 votes to one vote.

1633
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:13,800
Immediately we started to look at the absentee ballots to take a look and see which is very normal in any election.

1634
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:23,420
But it's especially very normal in a race that's only separating the two of us by one vote.

1635
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:26,240
I want to preface something.

1636
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:35,440
We work very hard both Barbara and myself to gain your support.

1637
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,720
We both believe in our town.

1638
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:40,900
We both love this community.

1639
02:09:40,900 --> 02:09:59,600
I can't imagine that anyone would put themselves through this and face sometimes the public criticism that we face as candidates if we didn't have a desire to serve and a love for our community.

1640
02:10:02,740 --> 02:10:20,700
I took responsibility in hiring an election law attorney, and we started to look at the absentee ballots of what were out there.

1641
02:10:20,700 --> 02:10:30,500
And on Thursday evening, after leaving my attorneys, I had discovered, or we had discovered

1642
02:10:30,500 --> 02:10:34,880
collectively, that there were three ballots that we felt were in question.

1643
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:41,920
And we felt that those ballots were in question, not because merely because of their appearance,

1644
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:52,500
But the fact that we understood that those ballots were presented by people who no longer lived in town.

1645
02:10:54,680 --> 02:11:01,380
Now, a comment was made tonight that you could have two residents, and that's true.

1646
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:06,140
You could have a temporary residence and a permanent residence.

1647
02:11:06,140 --> 02:11:11,500
election law very clearly states that you vote from your permanent

1648
02:11:11,500 --> 02:11:18,020
residents and not from your secondary residents. There are many people who have

1649
02:11:18,020 --> 02:11:21,020
that set up. That's very true.

1650
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:23,520
Joe, you just one minute. Okay.

1651
02:11:24,180 --> 02:11:28,660
And if I go over Mike, I would appreciate just a little bit of courtesy that way.

1652
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:30,960
A couple of seconds. I'm going to be fair to everybody.

1653
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:33,840
for 16 years, so I never changed the rules.

1654
02:11:34,740 --> 02:11:38,960
So, I had reached out to Barbara on Thursday evening.

1655
02:11:39,140 --> 02:11:41,140
You'd have to be about 10 o'clock at night.

1656
02:11:41,140 --> 02:11:43,200
10 19, part of me?

1657
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:43,980
10 19.

1658
02:11:44,140 --> 02:11:44,740
10 19.

1659
02:11:45,140 --> 02:11:46,440
I remember that's pretty late.

1660
02:11:46,940 --> 02:11:53,100
And my suggestion to Barbara was, and I told her how trouble I was,

1661
02:11:53,380 --> 02:11:55,940
because in fact, I really was troubled by this.

1662
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,340
And I said that at that moment,

1663
02:11:58,340 --> 02:12:06,840
We had definitely identified three ballots, who the ballots were, and what we felt were wrong

1664
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:07,560
with the ballots.

1665
02:12:08,180 --> 02:12:15,800
And my suggestion was, let's stipulate the two of us as candidates, which we perfectly

1666
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:21,600
could have done, let's go into Board of Elections on Tuesday for the meeting for the counting

1667
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:27,920
of the remaining ballots, we'll stipulate the whole of those three aside so that no

1668
02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:34,800
gets injured. Let's count the remaining ballots. Let's see what we are numerically. And if

1669
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:40,420
neither one of us needs those three ballots, we walk away from this and we're done. Either

1670
02:12:40,420 --> 02:12:46,240
you're the winner, on the winner, you're the winner, on the loser. It doesn't make a difference

1671
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:54,460
to me. But let's hold off those three ballots. So, and this is the outcome that I was fearful of.

1672
02:12:54,460 --> 02:13:02,260
because I knew in my mind that those ballots that would be questioned once we went

1673
02:13:02,260 --> 02:13:08,770
into open court would become the genie that's let out of the bottle that no one

1674
02:13:09,500 --> 02:13:19,020
not me, not Barbara, no one can put back in. And I was fearful that the community

1675
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:27,000
would be severely damaged, and that potentially we could be jeopardizing the lives of people

1676
02:13:28,620 --> 02:13:35,140
that unbeknownst to them may have had ballots that they didn't realize should not have been

1677
02:13:35,140 --> 02:13:43,140
submitted. And I tried to do that. I reached out when I got no response from Barbara on whether

1678
02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:48,940
or not she thought that was a good idea. I then reached out to Mike, because I felt that Mike

1679
02:13:48,940 --> 02:14:00,140
Maybe would understand it differently, and maybe he would be able to convince Barbara that this might have been a good thing to do, again, to know a veil.

1680
02:14:00,820 --> 02:14:06,800
I did also reach out to Allison, and I left her two messages on her voice mail.

1681
02:14:07,460 --> 02:14:09,840
To know a veil, I got no phone call back.

1682
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:19,040
Joe 5 seconds. But believe me. And I say this with all the sincerity that I have. I did not

1683
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:25,260
want to see us as a community come to this point. Thank you.

1684
02:14:28,070 --> 02:14:30,090
My only concern because I just

1685
02:14:30,090 --> 02:14:38,090
heard a comment on someone. My only concern and my concern still today is the integrity of

1686
02:14:38,090 --> 02:14:42,350
your supervisor. You can have your own rules for public comment. You don't make your rules

1687
02:14:42,350 --> 02:14:48,470
Okay, I just leave you next to minute and a half I would just like anybody else next to can I finish my five minutes

1688
02:14:49,190 --> 02:14:58,410
I'm sorry, we're not letting just people we're letting speak for five minutes. I was gonna do this tonight

1689
02:14:58,410 --> 02:14:59,970
But I feel it's necessary

1690
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:09,580
I'm sorry I have to do this. Three members of a Northcastle family designated Joe Rendy as their agent to pick up their

1691
02:15:09,580 --> 02:15:16,860
absentee ballots from the Westchester Board of Elections. The ballots were issued to Joe Rendy on 1231 on 1031

1692
02:15:16,860 --> 02:15:27,440
Halloween, and we return to the Board of Elections on November 3, and November 6. Upon further investigation,

1693
02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:33,560
the following was discovered. A simple search of the Internet indicated that one of the

1694
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:38,720
individuals currently lives in New York City with their spouse. Another one of the individuals

1695
02:15:38,720 --> 02:15:45,220
just took a job in New York City which requires residency in New York City for the first two years

1696
02:15:45,220 --> 02:15:54,740
of employment. The ATT ballots were issued on Halloween 1031-23, yet all ATT ballots,

1697
02:15:54,740 --> 02:16:03,460
envelope were dated 10, 30, 23, the day before they were issued. The stake probably all

1698
02:16:03,460 --> 02:16:08,880
three? I don't know. The following documents were requested and received from the West

1699
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:14,820
Chester Board of Elections for all three individuals. The voter registration card, which

1700
02:16:14,820 --> 02:16:20,380
is a document submitted at the time, one registers to vote, two, the request for the absentee

1701
02:16:20,380 --> 02:16:26,640
ballot and three of the absentee ballot envelope. Each of these documents has a date and a

1702
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:34,180
signature. The documents were submitted to a certified question document examiner and a court

1703
02:16:34,180 --> 02:16:40,940
qualified expert witness. This expert witness has specified in more than 50 court cases. The

1704
02:16:40,940 --> 02:16:46,800
findings are as it follows. In each of the three cases, the signature on the absentee ballot envelope

1705
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:50,500
did not match the signature on the voter registration card.

1706
02:16:50,860 --> 02:16:54,100
In one case, the signature on the absentee ballot request

1707
02:16:54,100 --> 02:17:00,020
did not match the signature on the voter registration card.

1708
02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:02,960
The quote from the certified document examiner.

1709
02:17:03,180 --> 02:17:06,380
In my expert opinion with a reasonable degree of certainty,

1710
02:17:06,980 --> 02:17:10,080
the signature appears to be fictitious and are not considered

1711
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:13,880
consistent with the signatures on the voter registration card.

1712
02:17:13,980 --> 02:17:14,500
Thank you, Eric.

1713
02:17:14,500 --> 02:17:18,280
clear, I don't make any accusations, but this needs to be looked at.

1714
02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:39,450
I just like to clarify one thing, and that is that once a person's vote is in the hands

1715
02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:46,430
of the Board of Elections, a person, Joe Randian, I couldn't go to the Board of Elections

1716
02:17:46,430 --> 02:17:50,150
and say, please don't count these votes.

1717
02:17:50,970 --> 02:17:55,650
That's just not right to say that we had that ability.

1718
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:56,470
We didn't.

1719
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:00,000
Any other comments?

1720
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:01,460
Otherwise, we can move on with the agenda.

1721
02:18:02,120 --> 02:18:07,860
I'm just going to finish up simply because they've

1722
02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:11,860
Simon's alerted it out three times, and then a little bit more

1723
02:18:11,860 --> 02:18:12,920
half time.

1724
02:18:13,460 --> 02:18:16,220
He accused me of attacking Allison Simon.

1725
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:17,340
I believe that's his words.

1726
02:18:18,060 --> 02:18:28,440
I can tell you that is not true, and anyway, the standard for defamation is not worth going into.

1727
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:31,200
Mike, you and I probably share something in that.

1728
02:18:31,340 --> 02:18:33,300
Your brother worked for President Obama.

1729
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:37,380
Professor, I took first amendment long, law school from also did.

1730
02:18:37,580 --> 02:18:38,020
Okay, I have some steam.

1731
02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:40,400
But anyway, it's a very high standard.

1732
02:18:40,580 --> 02:18:41,840
It may well have been met.

1733
02:18:42,300 --> 02:18:43,980
I want to move forward on these things.

1734
02:18:43,980 --> 02:18:48,840
But I will clearly, I don't even know who it is not true.

1735
02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:52,120
He may be referring to an instance.

1736
02:18:52,700 --> 02:18:56,340
There was a town board meeting on September 22, 2021.

1737
02:18:57,300 --> 02:19:00,800
When I spoke about masks, we were in the midst of COVID.

1738
02:19:02,020 --> 02:19:05,520
And I told Barbara that she should set a good example,

1739
02:19:05,720 --> 02:19:08,800
and also asked that she were a mask and in passing also Allison.

1740
02:19:10,140 --> 02:19:12,020
So you can watch that if you want an MCTV

1741
02:19:12,020 --> 02:19:16,020
and make your own judgments, it's around time marker 40.

1742
02:19:17,020 --> 02:19:17,820
And that's what I'll say.

1743
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:25,180
I think we should, it's very important that I think we resolve this.

1744
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:29,740
I don't believe in sweeping important things under the carpet,

1745
02:19:31,140 --> 02:19:35,240
but then this is a very important thing, but it's also important we move on as a town.

1746
02:19:35,980 --> 02:19:40,820
I would just like to add that when you verbally attacked Allison and myself

1747
02:19:40,820 --> 02:19:57,360
for not wearing masks, the town policy was for elected officials for town employees, if we were fully vaccinated and we gave proof to the town administrator wearing a mask was optional.

1748
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,240
I'm not going to respond to that and any deep people can do that. Judge.

1749
02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:12,700
Very briefly. I chose to speak about the

1750
02:20:12,700 --> 02:20:24,300
eagle. And if you listen to my words, they were about coming together. And clearly, they're

1751
02:20:24,300 --> 02:20:33,570
may well have been significant issues with respect to the last election. But if we harp on them,

1752
02:20:33,570 --> 02:20:44,090
If we continue to talk about them, if we argue as to whether they existed, what are we doing

1753
02:20:44,090 --> 02:20:45,690
to the future of this town,

1754
02:20:48,090 --> 02:20:53,190
not making it better, we're going to be at war with each other.

1755
02:20:53,730 --> 02:20:57,210
And that's all I hear, as I said here.

1756
02:20:57,210 --> 02:21:00,750
I hear animosity, neighbor, against neighbor.

1757
02:21:03,010 --> 02:21:05,850
We have enough problems in the world.

1758
02:21:06,530 --> 02:21:10,010
Enough problems in this country, problems in this state.

1759
02:21:12,520 --> 02:21:15,200
We're going to have a result from the Board of Elections.

1760
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:23,500
We're going to live with it, whichever side we vote it for, or in this case, individual

1761
02:21:23,500 --> 02:21:29,020
for supervisor, because it's town board members were chosen.

1762
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:42,130
Let us think of what's best for our town if there is anything else wrong, it is not for us the citizens to delve into that.

1763
02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:52,640
There are systems to that, but there are not, or a discussion, by the community, which only says one of us against another.

1764
02:21:52,640 --> 02:22:04,880
So, I ask that you look at your neighbor and don't think how does he feel about this election.

1765
02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:06,520
Ten seconds.

1766
02:22:06,820 --> 02:22:15,900
That is for others pretending it is not for a community fight, which is what I hear.

1767
02:22:16,900 --> 02:22:20,580
So, try to think of the symbolism of the eagle.

1768
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:26,260
And the meaning of Northcastle to you before this, thank you.

1769
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:27,060
Thank you, guys.

1770
02:22:30,030 --> 02:22:30,570
Thanks, Sue.

1771
02:22:30,890 --> 02:22:34,370
And have no fear that the tout board will move forward for the town.

1772
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:43,890
So you're all welcome to stay for the two hearings we have,

1773
02:22:43,970 --> 02:22:46,130
the budget hearing and the ethics hearing,

1774
02:22:47,050 --> 02:22:52,870
and the rest of our agenda, or you can leave it at your choice.

1775
02:22:53,810 --> 02:22:55,710
I don't know that it's going to be that long.

1776
02:23:00,930 --> 02:23:09,390
When I was going to ask the board in, you know, to a point in its work.

1777
02:23:17,710 --> 02:23:19,830
I saw her here before.

1778
02:23:25,170 --> 02:23:28,090
This is a nice dress.

1779
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:29,550
Let's give us a second.

1780
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:30,830
People, you're going to leave.

1781
02:23:31,670 --> 02:23:32,550
Should I go first?

1782
02:23:33,190 --> 02:23:34,030
No, it's just...

1783
02:23:34,030 --> 02:23:34,190
I'm fine.

1784
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:34,870
I'm fine.

1785
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:35,150
I'm fine.

1786
02:23:36,690 --> 02:23:37,030
I'm fine.

1787
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:42,530
No, I'm fine.

1788
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:43,310
I'm fine.

1789
02:23:44,650 --> 02:23:44,770
I'm fine.

1790
02:23:48,610 --> 02:23:49,110
I'm fine.

1791
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:52,290
Take it back five, I'm not gonna look at it.

1792
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:54,990
Take the whole thing, Bob.

1793
02:23:57,130 --> 02:23:59,050
I'll take a look at Bob. I'll take one.

1794
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:59,850
Matt may want it.

1795
02:24:00,410 --> 02:24:01,530
Yeah. He else is not the ability.

1796
02:24:01,930 --> 02:24:04,230
Let's somebody else into your audience wants it.

1797
02:24:04,570 --> 02:24:04,790
Thank you.

1798
02:24:06,310 --> 02:24:08,370
There you got plenty of puppies.

1799
02:24:11,770 --> 02:24:14,030
I remember when I was a kid,

1800
02:24:14,030 --> 02:24:18,990
You're right, copiers were the only copiers and you had to put it to the end of the time here's the plastic

1801
02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:26,760
Thank you

1802
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:34,600
Someone asked the board if we can move up person elf six part of the record high

1803
02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:43,660
The board's okay with that. We have one bomb. We have charities here too

1804
02:24:43,660 --> 02:24:48,380
If we can move up six, eight, six, six, five, two appointments that are right board.

1805
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:50,320
Sure, in case they don't want to wait around.

1806
02:24:51,180 --> 02:24:54,600
So the first one is considering the appointment of charity London to the Board of Ethics

1807
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:59,960
for a five-year term to expire November 21st, 2028 charities been on the...

1808
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:06,220
Thank you. Alternate list. And we appreciate that she's willing to serve on the ethics board. So any comments or questions?

1809
02:25:06,580 --> 02:25:11,040
I'm very happy she decided to go ahead and devote the time.

1810
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:15,580
It's not always a heavy lift, but they've been working very hard last year in this year.

1811
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:21,440
So I would like to make the motion to appoint charity as a regular member of the Board of Ethics.

1812
02:25:21,500 --> 02:25:23,920
Well, just reserve the right for any other board members. Okay.

1813
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:27,040
or anybody in the audience. Anybody else?

1814
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:28,680
Was that your minute motion?

1815
02:25:28,820 --> 02:25:29,340
I was a motion.

1816
02:25:29,500 --> 02:25:31,440
I'll second a charity thank you for continuing

1817
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:33,940
to step up from alternate to full member.

1818
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:36,120
Don't let it go to your head.

1819
02:25:36,380 --> 02:25:36,760
On favor?

1820
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:37,480
Hi.

1821
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:41,000
Next item is consider the appointment of finished

1822
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:43,120
Shemtab as an alternate to the Board of Ethics

1823
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:45,280
and we appreciate her willingness to serve

1824
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:46,740
any comments or questions.

1825
02:25:47,020 --> 02:25:47,880
Can we just, I think,

1826
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:49,720
some people would have had difficulty hearing

1827
02:25:49,720 --> 02:25:50,800
the last decision.

1828
02:25:52,140 --> 02:25:54,040
So, is the possible to just repeat?

1829
02:25:54,580 --> 02:25:55,320
For charity?

1830
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:55,940
Yes.

1831
02:25:56,200 --> 02:25:58,860
So, we just made a motion in a second to a point charity

1832
02:25:58,860 --> 02:26:00,980
Lundor to the Board of Ethics.

1833
02:26:00,980 --> 02:26:02,840
The full board, she's been serving as an alternate

1834
02:26:02,840 --> 02:26:06,660
and now we're promoting her to the full-ethics board.

1835
02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:09,020
And that was moved second and unanimously.

1836
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:13,180
The second is the appointment of Penny Shemtab

1837
02:26:13,180 --> 02:26:14,920
as an alternate to the Board of Ethics.

1838
02:26:15,840 --> 02:26:16,620
We'll make that motion.

1839
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:17,880
I'll make that motion.

1840
02:26:20,740 --> 02:26:21,700
Thank you.

1841
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:23,740
Thank you.

1842
02:26:23,740 --> 02:26:24,040
Thank you, sir.

1843
02:26:28,380 --> 02:26:32,340
So now let's go to the first hearing, which is,

1844
02:26:32,380 --> 02:26:35,560
I need a motion to reconvene the 2024 town in special districts

1845
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:36,520
Plenary budgets.

1846
02:26:37,300 --> 02:26:38,200
I'm going to hear a motion.

1847
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:39,820
I'll make that motion.

1848
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:40,600
There are second.

1849
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:41,120
I'll second.

1850
02:26:41,300 --> 02:26:41,720
All in favor.

1851
02:26:42,180 --> 02:26:42,360
All right.

1852
02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:42,960
Thank you.

1853
02:26:43,500 --> 02:26:45,580
So we've received the budget two meetings ago.

1854
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:47,480
We have our Director of Finance here at Buster.

1855
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:50,420
We open the hearing at our last meeting.

1856
02:26:51,180 --> 02:26:58,000
And summary, the budget is a 0% tax increase, which we're happy about and proud of on this budget.

1857
02:26:58,760 --> 02:27:00,800
And it's a very, it's a structurally balanced budget.

1858
02:27:02,060 --> 02:27:07,980
And the director of finances here, if there's any questions, we normally hold the hearing.

1859
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:13,340
We adjourn for the second, the only meeting in December, in case there's any residents who had any questions.

1860
02:27:13,880 --> 02:27:15,860
And we're not able to ask them at the first meeting.

1861
02:27:15,860 --> 02:27:21,940
So unless you have anything to say, I would open it up if there's any questions from the audience of the board.

1862
02:27:22,760 --> 02:27:23,680
So I was like you want to say something.

1863
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:24,620
I do.

1864
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:32,820
I just wish to from the time when we presented the budget till now.

1865
02:27:33,220 --> 02:27:41,760
New information has come in where especially with regards to our new state health insurance plan.

1866
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:54,640
And I ship's rate increases were much more higher than what I had budgeted for, and I'd like the board to, you know, the difference is approximately almost a quarter million dollars.

1867
02:27:55,760 --> 02:28:03,920
And I'd like the board for me to adjust the budget and use fund balance to balance it out so that it still is zero percent increase.

1868
02:28:04,600 --> 02:28:08,860
But I'd like to make that change into the numbers if the board approves itself.

1869
02:28:08,860 --> 02:28:15,580
I have no issue with it. We have a strong fund balance, so I'd prefer to do it that way other than otherwise we'd be raising its taxes about

1870
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:19,300
You know point in a quarter

1871
02:28:19,300 --> 02:28:25,240
Yeah, right isn't about a point in a quarter point in a quarter. Yes, I'm fine with any comment from the board

1872
02:28:25,240 --> 02:28:26,700
I'm fine with it. I thought it was rational

1873
02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:28,880
Okay, I'm good. Thank you

1874
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:32,740
That's my only thing I wanted to bring to thank you and I do want to thank a boss

1875
02:28:32,740 --> 02:28:36,040
We did it at the last meeting and Kevin Hay or a town administrator

1876
02:28:36,040 --> 02:28:48,080
We're continuing to improve our budget process, I'm going to leave it all to you guys in the future, but I think it's been a much improved process over the last few years, and we thank you for doing all that work.

1877
02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:53,820
Any comments from the public on the budget? Any further comments from the board on the budget?

1878
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:58,480
So, I would ask for a motion to close the hearing.

1879
02:28:58,760 --> 02:28:59,420
I'll make that motion.

1880
02:28:59,920 --> 02:29:00,640
I'll second.

1881
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:01,360
All in favor?

1882
02:29:01,420 --> 02:29:02,020
All in favor.

1883
02:29:02,200 --> 02:29:07,280
And then I would ask for a motion to approve the Town Board budget, the adoption of the budget

1884
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:08,140
for 2024.

1885
02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:09,480
I'll make that motion.

1886
02:29:09,740 --> 02:29:10,740
All in favor?

1887
02:29:11,140 --> 02:29:11,200
Aye.

1888
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:11,800
A boss.

1889
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:13,080
Thank you for all the hard work.

1890
02:29:13,420 --> 02:29:13,440
Thank you.

1891
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:15,880
And the boss and Kevin start in the summer, June or July.

1892
02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:20,780
And you're not going to have to deal with me anymore on the budget, so you're probably

1893
02:29:20,780 --> 02:29:21,320
going to win the show.

1894
02:29:21,860 --> 02:29:21,880
I will.

1895
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:23,820
We'll still follow the same schedule.

1896
02:29:23,820 --> 02:29:32,580
And, you know, all I can say is, you know, will be, I like to take one thing what you've said is always, you know,

1897
02:29:32,780 --> 02:29:38,480
try and leave the place better than what you did. So, I hope to keep improving upon it.

1898
02:29:38,620 --> 02:29:43,140
So, hopefully we make it into an even better process even though you're not here, but hopefully, you know,

1899
02:29:43,300 --> 02:29:48,760
everything we do tries and makes it easier for the townboat to make their decisions. I'm sure you will.

1900
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:49,720
Thank you, boss.

1901
02:29:50,680 --> 02:29:59,320
I don't know if you're going to bring up or move up the item for the fun balance trend.

1902
02:30:00,420 --> 02:30:06,280
We're going to pay with that. I'll just add the other questions I can answer to. This should be quick, I'll just say.

1903
02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:08,840
Or is it? Mr. Laney, you say.

1904
02:30:10,060 --> 02:30:15,400
So, just consider what the relation of budget transfer from the general from balance to capital funds to close out several town projects.

1905
02:30:16,180 --> 02:30:22,220
So, Director of Finance, we're just cleaning up that and open up to any comments from the board or the public.

1906
02:30:22,220 --> 02:30:23,480
I'll see you later.

1907
02:30:23,500 --> 02:30:24,580
I'll see you later.

1908
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:26,360
Have you explained to people a second?

1909
02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:27,340
Sure.

1910
02:30:27,940 --> 02:30:31,780
So essentially when these capital projects were first set up,

1911
02:30:32,140 --> 02:30:38,160
we made certain estimates as to what we would expect to spend on them.

1912
02:30:38,940 --> 02:30:44,080
And we allocated money from the general funding to those capital projects.

1913
02:30:45,140 --> 02:30:50,300
When we actually went out to bid and we signed the contracts with the

1914
02:30:50,300 --> 02:30:55,660
contractors and the consultants to complete the work, they were much higher than what we

1915
02:30:55,660 --> 02:31:02,460
had estimated, and this is really just us closing out that gap from an accounting perspective

1916
02:31:03,260 --> 02:31:08,880
to get the money's right sorted out and to correct. Basically, the overage was already

1917
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:14,900
approved and through a bid and tender process when the projects were done. That's the short

1918
02:31:14,900 --> 02:31:15,340
summary.

1919
02:31:15,340 --> 02:31:17,340
Thank you.

1920
02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:18,680
Any other questions?

1921
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:19,420
Any other questions?

1922
02:31:19,760 --> 02:31:21,320
Thank you.

1923
02:31:21,580 --> 02:31:26,180
So if there's no other questions, I would ask for a motion to approve the budget transfers

1924
02:31:26,180 --> 02:31:27,820
made by the Director of Finance.

1925
02:31:27,940 --> 02:31:29,180
I'll make that motion.

1926
02:31:29,720 --> 02:31:30,060
I'll second.

1927
02:31:30,340 --> 02:31:30,680
All in favor?

1928
02:31:31,140 --> 02:31:31,240
All right.

1929
02:31:31,320 --> 02:31:32,020
Thank you.

1930
02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:33,020
Nothing else, right?

1931
02:31:34,280 --> 02:31:34,880
Thank you, boss.

1932
02:31:35,260 --> 02:31:38,180
I appreciate the...

1933
02:31:38,180 --> 02:31:40,260
What about theics for their patients tonight?

1934
02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:43,340
So we have the...

1935
02:31:43,340 --> 02:31:48,340
Hearing to consider local auto a men chapter twenty seven code about the executions twenty seven

1936
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:56,340
There are seven twenty seven to nineteen in the attachment one appendix a ethics disclosure statement of the code of the town of Northcastle

1937
02:31:57,080 --> 02:31:57,620
And

1938
02:31:58,220 --> 02:32:01,340
So I would ask first for a motion to open the hearing

1939
02:32:02,060 --> 02:32:04,140
I'll make the motion a second on favor.

1940
02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:08,240
Hi several members of the board of ethics here.

1941
02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:09,320
These were

1942
02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:10,580
Recommend

1943
02:32:10,580 --> 02:32:12,380
Excuse me

1944
02:32:13,380 --> 02:32:15,980
recommendations that the Board of Ethics made.

1945
02:32:16,880 --> 02:32:21,240
I personally I'd hope to have a work session first and then have a hearing, the majority

1946
02:32:21,240 --> 02:32:24,820
of the Board of Prophets to just go right to a hearing tonight, which is fine.

1947
02:32:26,020 --> 02:32:28,200
I have some comments and suggestions.

1948
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:31,940
I don't know if any other Board members do, but hopefully we can get through this quickly

1949
02:32:32,360 --> 02:32:33,420
and close the hearing.

1950
02:32:34,420 --> 02:32:35,820
And, Chair, we turn it over to you.

1951
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:41,300
Well, thanks, Mike, and members of the Town Board, and especially to your family, I'll

1952
02:32:41,300 --> 02:32:47,300
I apologize that this is what you have to endure for a few minutes, but it's really up to them about how much you have to prepare it.

1953
02:32:47,820 --> 02:32:52,040
I'm going to use my moment here to give my thank you to Mike.

1954
02:32:53,380 --> 02:32:59,220
I have known you for a while have been involved in various communities and boards in the town.

1955
02:33:00,300 --> 02:33:02,660
And I will say, I've learned a ton from you Mike.

1956
02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:07,140
I've really tried to model a lot of my leadership style after what I've seen from you.

1957
02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:15,920
The consensus building, you know, the listening, the, you know, really trying to get to the right answer, struggling with everything.

1958
02:33:17,080 --> 02:33:27,580
Hopefully you don't spend time watching ethics board meetings, but, you know, that's what I often try to do is, you know, be the last to speak as you often are.

1959
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:33,580
And so, you know, I really modeled that and I'm going to miss you a ton because I really enjoyed working with you.

1960
02:33:33,580 --> 02:33:45,560
And I wish you luck in whatever comes next and I will be, you know, among those people who encourage you to, you know, find something else to give back in really meaningful ways to the town and your community.

1961
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:46,400
So thank you.

1962
02:33:46,740 --> 02:33:47,320
Thank you.

1963
02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:50,220
So let me just frame really quickly.

1964
02:33:51,580 --> 02:33:54,300
Because I've been here a number of times about the code.

1965
02:33:54,920 --> 02:34:03,560
Because as everybody knows, you know, we revise the code and might you mention a judge, Schimer, who, you know, with me was part of that effort to revise that.

1966
02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:08,640
the code a number of years ago when you and the board then thought that was a good idea.

1967
02:34:09,540 --> 02:34:16,340
And since we adopted that code, we have been back a number of times to ask for various amendments

1968
02:34:16,340 --> 02:34:19,040
to the code because we're still trying to get it right.

1969
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:25,140
I think we tend to think it's a pretty living document and those of us who are on the board.

1970
02:34:25,660 --> 02:34:31,160
We study that code pretty regularly and sometimes we find places in which we can adjust

1971
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:36,680
to continue to have our code be really a model for towns in the state, there's been a number of

1972
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:40,020
instances in which other towns who are revising their code have reached out to us because

1973
02:34:40,020 --> 02:34:47,500
they've noticed that we really have a very forward ethics code and they've asked us questions

1974
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:53,380
and wanted to model their codes after hours. At the bottom, the code is really about transparency

1975
02:34:53,380 --> 02:34:59,980
and the code is designed and I think the ethics board really embodies this role which is it is designed.

1976
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:06,600
One to help people avoid violating the code. And that's a lot of the work that we do as an ethics board that

1977
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:11,660
you guys support from our educational initiatives, but also these changes are very much designed

1978
02:35:11,660 --> 02:35:18,260
in order to help ensure that our town volunteers, those of us who serve on boards and our elected

1979
02:35:18,260 --> 02:35:25,880
officials can avoid violating the laws of the town. So, as everybody knows, who is at least following

1980
02:35:25,880 --> 02:35:33,380
long. There are three requested changes to the ethics code. I can go through those when I'm

1981
02:35:33,380 --> 02:35:36,620
just going to do it briefly because I think you guys are all very familiar with them.

1982
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:41,140
And as Mike you said, you have some comments and maybe a few adjustments. And I think Jose

1983
02:35:41,140 --> 02:35:49,520
who's been a great liaison to the ethics board and help us navigate some of these decisions.

1984
02:35:49,820 --> 02:35:55,300
So I really appreciate him and the rest of the board entertaining this. The first change just has

1985
02:35:55,300 --> 02:36:04,740
do with adding a small provision to one of the sections of the code, which would close a loophole

1986
02:36:04,740 --> 02:36:10,080
that exists in the code now, would allow somebody the way the code works now, would allow

1987
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:18,940
somebody to basically be involved in a decision and then quit and then sort of before having

1988
02:36:18,940 --> 02:36:25,360
to vote, and then come back on to their position, and this would prevent them from being

1989
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:30,660
involved in those decisions after resuming their role for six months.

1990
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:37,260
This came up because we actually became aware of at least one example where something

1991
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:38,060
similar happened.

1992
02:36:38,380 --> 02:36:44,620
We just thought, you know, we're trying to have people avoid doing things that sort of cause

1993
02:36:44,620 --> 02:36:47,220
impression of impropriety, and this was one such example.

1994
02:36:47,780 --> 02:36:53,520
The second change that we're requesting, this is sort of one of those good examples of

1995
02:36:53,520 --> 02:36:57,220
we did the best we could when we put the code together, and we miss some things.

1996
02:36:57,640 --> 02:37:04,200
And this one is that, although the members of the board of ethics, they are pointed

1997
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:09,320
for five year terms, and there's five members that are all staggered terms, so every year there's

1998
02:37:09,320 --> 02:37:13,760
an opportunity for somebody to either request to be re-appointed, or for somebody new to

1999
02:37:13,760 --> 02:37:19,640
come on the board. We also have two alternates. We just forgot to include the staggered terms

2000
02:37:19,640 --> 02:37:24,680
for the alternates. So the way the code reads now is that the alternates serve in perpetuity,

2001
02:37:25,020 --> 02:37:29,580
which is fine for the alternates. You want to stay in those roles forever, but we think that

2002
02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:34,540
it's probably in the better interest of the town that those are also staggered terms and that

2003
02:37:34,540 --> 02:37:40,020
there's an opportunity to be reconsidered and reappointed after five year terms. So I will say,

2004
02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:47,920
If that provision is approved, I think that it will require the two serving alternates

2005
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:52,740
Art Elias, and then of course you just appointed Penny, and congratulations, Penny.

2006
02:37:53,620 --> 02:37:58,980
I think it will require them to be removed from the role and then re-appointed to those

2007
02:37:58,980 --> 02:38:03,200
staggered terms with one of them being appointed for a five-year term, the other for a one-year term.

2008
02:38:03,360 --> 02:38:09,560
So we can get the staggering right, starting in 2024, and then the last change isn't a specific change

2009
02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:16,720
to be code, but it is a change to the disclosure statement, and we've spoken about this

2010
02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:17,760
a number of times.

2011
02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:26,460
The change that we are recommending, it has to do with the disclosure of real property

2012
02:38:26,460 --> 02:38:33,340
that those who are elected officials and members of boards that are responsible for signing

2013
02:38:33,340 --> 02:38:36,180
the disclosure statement on an annual basis.

2014
02:38:36,180 --> 02:38:39,500
what it does is that it breaks out into two sections.

2015
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:43,720
The types of property that we ask that you have to disclose.

2016
02:38:44,300 --> 02:38:47,020
And this is all other than your personal residence.

2017
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:52,160
So this is all goes to your investment property in town.

2018
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,820
And so the first provision is limited.

2019
02:38:56,120 --> 02:39:00,720
It relates to just the person serving and their spouse or partner.

2020
02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:08,840
and they have to disclose in what they own, either one of them as their investment properties

2021
02:39:08,840 --> 02:39:16,860
in the town of North Castle, and then the second section is a provision that goes to a broader

2022
02:39:16,860 --> 02:39:22,400
group, so the sort of the individual who's on the board, not just their spouse, but also an

2023
02:39:22,400 --> 02:39:30,060
enumerated list of relatives. I'll use that lower case. But an enumerated list of their relatives,

2024
02:39:30,960 --> 02:39:45,900
That they have an awareness of the languages to the best of their knowledge has a piece of property that they own that is coming before one of the town boards for approval of an application.

2025
02:39:46,840 --> 02:39:52,460
So those are the three changes that are subject. I'm just summarizing everybody has the actual language.

2026
02:39:52,460 --> 02:39:59,980
And I know we've had some discussion about some of these in the past so I'll stop there and I don't know what the process is now

2027
02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:11,240
So, the first two, does anybody on the board have any issues or comments?

2028
02:40:15,880 --> 02:40:19,960
On the first two, I just want to make the comment that I fully support those changes.

2029
02:40:20,400 --> 02:40:24,600
And I think we've talked about it before. So, I don't have any questions on this.

2030
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:25,720
Great, thanks so much.

2031
02:40:25,920 --> 02:40:27,780
Yeah, I fully support them too, and I agree.

2032
02:40:27,780 --> 02:40:28,860
Thanks, Matt.

2033
02:40:29,360 --> 02:40:29,680
I'm sorry.

2034
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:30,240
Same here.

2035
02:40:30,900 --> 02:40:31,360
Thank you.

2036
02:40:31,780 --> 02:40:32,180
Thank you.

2037
02:40:32,200 --> 02:40:32,880
I have no issue with it.

2038
02:40:32,900 --> 02:40:33,360
No, I don't.

2039
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:34,480
Thanks.

2040
02:40:36,220 --> 02:40:38,720
So the third one is the disclosure form.

2041
02:40:38,820 --> 02:40:41,020
We've had a lot of conversation about that.

2042
02:40:41,820 --> 02:40:43,240
Anybody have any.

2043
02:40:43,580 --> 02:40:46,440
I think several members were already in favor of it.

2044
02:40:46,480 --> 02:40:47,820
So anybody want to point on that.

2045
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:48,800
Yeah.

2046
02:40:49,320 --> 02:40:51,960
I just want to make actually the same statement on the third one.

2047
02:40:52,120 --> 02:40:54,680
I think it's a great change to make.

2048
02:40:54,680 --> 02:40:57,220
And I think the wording is very clear.

2049
02:40:58,740 --> 02:41:01,540
So I don't see any issue with it.

2050
02:41:01,540 --> 02:41:03,420
So I'd like to fully support it.

2051
02:41:03,760 --> 02:41:04,280
Thank you.

2052
02:41:04,540 --> 02:41:05,880
Yeah, I fully supported too.

2053
02:41:06,120 --> 02:41:08,880
And we discussed this the last go around with the athletes

2054
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:09,880
go to similar concept.

2055
02:41:10,320 --> 02:41:13,020
I just think if you're an elected official or if you're

2056
02:41:13,020 --> 02:41:14,960
serving on a volunteer board or committee

2057
02:41:14,960 --> 02:41:16,920
that deals with the real estate regulation,

2058
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:19,900
I think this is really critical for public trust.

2059
02:41:20,500 --> 02:41:23,980
I think it's just, I mean, I came from the investment world.

2060
02:41:23,980 --> 02:41:28,580
This was standard practice, you know, if we were investing other people's money and trading stocks,

2061
02:41:28,980 --> 02:41:33,640
we had to disclose to leave a compliance department, our personal stock accounts to make sure

2062
02:41:33,640 --> 02:41:34,520
that we weren't front running.

2063
02:41:35,140 --> 02:41:38,600
So to me, I think this is really, you know, kind of basic.

2064
02:41:39,260 --> 02:41:42,620
I know that the county has put in place similar changes.

2065
02:41:42,620 --> 02:41:44,440
We discussed that last time.

2066
02:41:45,900 --> 02:41:50,000
You know, when we interview an executive session candidates for boards and committees,

2067
02:41:50,020 --> 02:41:53,300
this was always a question I asked because I was curious to see, and I've asked others too.

2068
02:41:53,300 --> 02:42:03,180
Here's the see if there were other opinions and, you know, almost everybody, I think actually literally everybody I've asked had the view that this was something that should be included in a proper ethics code.

2069
02:42:03,180 --> 02:42:06,710
So I'm supportive of it.

2070
02:42:06,730 --> 02:42:11,090
I think it's what I did as a matter of fact in 2023.

2071
02:42:12,030 --> 02:42:19,490
I just rather than just give you corporations, I actually identified the addresses and the businesses.

2072
02:42:19,870 --> 02:42:22,970
So obviously I see nothing wrong with doing it because I did it voluntarily.

2073
02:42:22,970 --> 02:42:24,270
Thank you, Barbara.

2074
02:42:26,110 --> 02:42:29,150
So my concern has been when this came up last time.

2075
02:42:29,150 --> 02:42:30,050
I'm not going to fight it.

2076
02:42:32,090 --> 02:42:35,390
But that there is a difference between secrecy and privacy.

2077
02:42:35,850 --> 02:42:39,230
So if secrecy, you're probably trying to keep something from somebody.

2078
02:42:39,650 --> 02:42:42,430
Privacy is why do somebody have the right to know?

2079
02:42:42,430 --> 02:42:44,130
And I understand what you're saying, Matt.

2080
02:42:44,370 --> 02:42:46,930
And banking, we did what Reggo, we've got to disclose things.

2081
02:42:47,310 --> 02:42:48,470
But these are jobs.

2082
02:42:48,550 --> 02:42:50,050
These are publicly held companies.

2083
02:42:50,270 --> 02:42:51,310
These are investments.

2084
02:42:51,530 --> 02:42:52,210
These are volunteers.

2085
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:59,790
So the last thing I want to do is disincent people from volunteering because they've got to disclose private information.

2086
02:42:59,990 --> 02:43:02,190
Not secret information, private information.

2087
02:43:03,470 --> 02:43:05,430
And then what do we do with that information?

2088
02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:10,630
So if you're a bank with rego, you have to research thoroughly.

2089
02:43:11,270 --> 02:43:14,930
I'm not on the understanding that anybody's going to be doing that on any applications.

2090
02:43:16,510 --> 02:43:21,590
And then that information, it also isn't necessarily private if it could be foil by the public.

2091
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:25,270
So those are my concerns with it, but I'm not going to fight it.

2092
02:43:25,530 --> 02:43:29,710
If that's the way this board wants to go, I worry about disincenting people from volunteering

2093
02:43:29,710 --> 02:43:33,270
because they'll say, wait a minute, I'm going to disclose all this information.

2094
02:43:34,110 --> 02:43:36,250
That's not what I intended to do here.

2095
02:43:36,970 --> 02:43:38,810
So I'm not going to fight it with the board.

2096
02:43:38,850 --> 02:43:42,650
I'm going to give two suggestions that I have and I wanted to do this on a work session, but

2097
02:43:42,650 --> 02:43:44,170
we'll do it with the board here.

2098
02:43:44,350 --> 02:43:48,310
The first one is hopefully as simple and it's right around this issue.

2099
02:43:48,310 --> 02:43:53,170
So I wrote language, I'm not a lawyer, but I'll read it, and there's plenty of lawyers in the room.

2100
02:43:53,810 --> 02:44:02,430
Upon submission of any town volunteer application for a position that requires completion of the town's ethics disclosure form, this revised form,

2101
02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:07,210
set form is required to be provided to applicant within five days of application.

2102
02:44:08,230 --> 02:44:12,190
My reasoning around that is, we interview a lot of people.

2103
02:44:12,890 --> 02:44:17,350
And why would the board want to take somebody all the way down the road and determine,

2104
02:44:18,230 --> 02:44:22,370
okay, that person is perfect for the planning board, and they look at this disclosure

2105
02:44:22,370 --> 02:44:27,010
inform and say, I'm not telling you all my private real estate holding, why don't you

2106
02:44:27,010 --> 02:44:28,550
tell me this when I started the process?

2107
02:44:28,850 --> 02:44:33,350
So to me, this is an easy one to just say when they formally complete the application on

2108
02:44:33,350 --> 02:44:38,970
our website, and it's for only one of the boards that requires this form, so then where

2109
02:44:38,970 --> 02:44:42,950
required to submit that disclosure for them to them so they can review it and determine

2110
02:44:42,950 --> 02:44:47,690
do I really want to go down this path if they're asking me to disclose information that is

2111
02:44:47,690 --> 02:44:51,970
private to me not secret, but private. So that's my suggestion. I have another one but that's

2112
02:44:51,970 --> 02:44:58,850
one suggestion. Can I say something about that? I think we can accomplish that just as readily.

2113
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,500
Telling people, when they apply, if they're going to be on those boards and committees that they're going to have to disclose that. So then we don't have to go through the whole process.

2114
02:45:06,860 --> 02:45:09,920
But that's not a process. I'm sorry.

2115
02:45:10,120 --> 02:45:10,900
That's not a process.

2116
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:12,580
I'm not sure I understand that.

2117
02:45:12,800 --> 02:45:14,680
We'll explain the process. How do they get to form?

2118
02:45:16,140 --> 02:45:18,380
You disclose to them when they're applying for the position.

2119
02:45:18,780 --> 02:45:21,400
They apply online. Who's disclosing to them?

2120
02:45:21,640 --> 02:45:27,060
Well, then you put it on the form. If you're one of these boards, you're going to have to go ahead and disclose this.

2121
02:45:27,260 --> 02:45:28,540
And here's a link if you want to see it.

2122
02:45:28,540 --> 02:45:31,480
So, all I'm saying is to easy way for me

2123
02:45:31,480 --> 02:45:32,880
is to include it in the ethics code.

2124
02:45:32,980 --> 02:45:33,600
So there's a process.

2125
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:35,720
So now we're beholding to somebody

2126
02:45:35,720 --> 02:45:37,660
applies, and it's one of these boards

2127
02:45:37,660 --> 02:45:39,200
that we require to sign the disclosure,

2128
02:45:40,160 --> 02:45:41,500
then they should be given that form.

2129
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:44,660
So if you want to do it outside the ethics code,

2130
02:45:44,720 --> 02:45:45,380
that's OK.

2131
02:45:45,500 --> 02:45:48,060
All I'm saying is, this is my suggestion is,

2132
02:45:48,460 --> 02:45:51,120
let people know upfront, because this is a big change.

2133
02:45:52,680 --> 02:45:55,040
And why waste all of your time next year?

2134
02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:56,660
I won't be here, but you interview people

2135
02:45:56,660 --> 02:45:59,640
for these important board decisions, they should know this up front.

2136
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:03,760
So if it's not in the ethics code, you could put it somewhere else, but you need a process

2137
02:46:03,760 --> 02:46:04,160
to it.

2138
02:46:04,180 --> 02:46:05,400
You can't just say, well, give it to him.

2139
02:46:05,520 --> 02:46:08,800
There has to be something concrete that says, if they do this, they get this.

2140
02:46:09,020 --> 02:46:09,440
That's all.

2141
02:46:09,620 --> 02:46:11,420
I'd very much agree with the concept.

2142
02:46:11,460 --> 02:46:15,660
I just don't think that we need to put it in this local law change for the ethics code.

2143
02:46:15,780 --> 02:46:18,460
I think we could just do it administratively.

2144
02:46:18,760 --> 02:46:20,400
But I very much agree with the concept.

2145
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:21,040
Okay.

2146
02:46:21,040 --> 02:46:25,200
And I think, I'm not saying it has to be in the ethics code.

2147
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:27,960
It could be somewhere else, but it should be codified somewhere.

2148
02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:32,580
Because I think if it's just, okay, we're going to do it.

2149
02:46:32,860 --> 02:46:34,460
There's a process to apply, right?

2150
02:46:34,460 --> 02:46:36,120
They apply through the website.

2151
02:46:37,180 --> 02:46:40,900
And we know there's only certain boards that are going to require to do this.

2152
02:46:41,720 --> 02:46:46,100
And then there should be something, a system that says, okay, when this happens, then they

2153
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:47,500
get that disclosure form.

2154
02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:50,980
And that way, they could say, I'm not going to probably want to disclose your form.

2155
02:46:50,980 --> 02:46:51,580
I want to proceed.

2156
02:46:51,580 --> 02:46:58,060
or, this is concerning to me, I shouldn't be disclosing my private information, not secret

2157
02:46:58,060 --> 02:46:58,500
information.

2158
02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:03,520
So, if the board decides now, it doesn't want to be part of the ethics code.

2159
02:47:03,620 --> 02:47:08,300
I'm fine with that, but I would recommend it's codified somewhere, so that form is given

2160
02:47:08,300 --> 02:47:10,140
to people applying for these certifications.

2161
02:47:10,240 --> 02:47:18,600
And do we today codify in the law indication that volunteers will need to share this private

2162
02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:24,920
information when they abstain from votes that have something to do with their real state

2163
02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:25,720
holdings?

2164
02:47:26,440 --> 02:47:28,240
It's clear in the ethics code.

2165
02:47:28,600 --> 02:47:29,880
If it's already clear.

2166
02:47:30,220 --> 02:47:34,880
That's that was my argument why this was sort of built in suspenders, but that's what you

2167
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:36,380
want to do, that's fine.

2168
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:41,600
But it's already clear in the ethics code, it's really clearly spelled out that if you

2169
02:47:41,600 --> 02:47:43,680
have a conflict, you have to disclose it.

2170
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:47,220
And this is, and I thought what we're doing here is we're actually

2171
02:47:47,220 --> 02:47:50,800
approving the change in that ethics code, so it's also very clear

2172
02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:53,220
what the new questionnaire would look like.

2173
02:47:53,740 --> 02:47:56,400
Right, but a new applicant should know that a front,

2174
02:47:56,440 --> 02:47:59,940
not when they get appointed, or approved by the board,

2175
02:48:00,280 --> 02:48:03,460
and then they're appointed, and now they're informed.

2176
02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:05,840
Well, now you're appointed, you have to sign this form.

2177
02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:09,420
And they say, well, I don't want to sign this form.

2178
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:12,440
Or I'm okay with this form, but they should know, this is a big change.

2179
02:48:13,100 --> 02:48:17,900
So to disclose private information, not if you have a conflict, we all know this.

2180
02:48:18,100 --> 02:48:19,760
The town attorney trains us on this.

2181
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:21,440
There's a conflict or perceived conflict.

2182
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:22,580
You check with the town attorney.

2183
02:48:23,240 --> 02:48:25,660
And then he says, yes or no.

2184
02:48:26,480 --> 02:48:31,320
Here, you're asking people to disclose private information up front when there is no conflict.

2185
02:48:32,580 --> 02:48:33,620
That's my concern.

2186
02:48:34,120 --> 02:48:37,780
So why not just let people have the form when the problem when they apply?

2187
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:40,480
And then they can make the decision.

2188
02:48:40,480 --> 02:48:45,580
because then you could be interviewing people and appointing people, and they say why don't you tell me this up front?

2189
02:48:45,760 --> 02:48:46,420
That's my point.

2190
02:48:46,660 --> 02:48:52,420
You ever see the scene from a few good men where they talk about, you know, where's the mess hall in this manual?

2191
02:48:52,880 --> 02:48:55,440
And if they're like, it doesn't say, it's like, how do you know where to go when you eat?

2192
02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:57,320
You just follow everybody at meal time.

2193
02:48:57,720 --> 02:49:02,420
I just, I think, you know, we don't have as far as I'm aware, somebody correct me from wrong.

2194
02:49:02,620 --> 02:49:07,440
In our town code, we don't have anything that says this is who's going to respond to you.

2195
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:12,320
And, you know, when you volunteer for a board or committee, we don't say this is what's going to happen.

2196
02:49:12,360 --> 02:49:14,900
You're going to come up and you're going to interview an executive session with the board.

2197
02:49:15,280 --> 02:49:18,800
But we have these processes and they're good processes and I think we should continue with them.

2198
02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:24,200
So my point is just, I don't think I very much agree with your point that that's something that we should involve in a process.

2199
02:49:24,280 --> 02:49:26,920
I just don't think it needs to be in the town code.

2200
02:49:27,140 --> 02:49:35,560
Because we don't have the existing process that we have with, you know, getting volunteers up into an executive and communicating with them in the town code.

2201
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:41,120
agreed. We have a process. I mean, I'll be written clearly, but this is an extra step

2202
02:49:41,120 --> 02:49:45,100
you're asking them to do. So I'm not going to believe it. My point is, I think it's better

2203
02:49:45,100 --> 02:49:50,080
for all of you. I'm not going to be here that you could save a lot of time if you're interviewing

2204
02:49:50,080 --> 02:49:56,360
people and they are not aware of this and you're asking them to provide not if there's a conflict.

2205
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:59,240
You're asking to provide private information without it.

2206
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,920
And to me, they should be aware of that. That's all. Can we? Can we listen to comments?

2207
02:50:05,840 --> 02:50:12,620
I got up before Mr. Barron, Mr. Millen spoke, so what I'm going to say is probably redundant.

2208
02:50:13,020 --> 02:50:24,860
But to me, it seems that at the time you set up an interview is just as easy to enclose two things. The ethics code and this particular requirement.

2209
02:50:24,860 --> 02:50:28,220
So people know what they're getting into.

2210
02:50:29,360 --> 02:50:32,900
So it would seem procedural and yes,

2211
02:50:33,060 --> 02:50:37,380
it's one extra step of the town clerk to do.

2212
02:50:37,940 --> 02:50:40,940
But I think that we could just make a part of town

2213
02:50:40,940 --> 02:50:45,540
procedure to supply ethics code and this requirement.

2214
02:50:46,180 --> 02:50:47,020
And that may solve it.

2215
02:50:47,460 --> 02:50:50,320
When I got became supervisor, I put a process in place.

2216
02:50:50,600 --> 02:50:52,200
And these guys get sick of hearing me say,

2217
02:50:52,200 --> 02:50:55,620
But every volunteer in the sum here, you're the same thing.

2218
02:50:55,620 --> 02:50:56,900
Everybody is the same process.

2219
02:50:57,220 --> 02:50:59,560
You come up on care if you've been serving 24 years,

2220
02:50:59,740 --> 02:51:02,460
you interview with the board, and it's the same process.

2221
02:51:02,660 --> 02:51:06,460
So maybe in that process, it may be a little time,

2222
02:51:06,620 --> 02:51:09,780
but not as much as you hand the format or something

2223
02:51:09,780 --> 02:51:10,480
to that effect.

2224
02:51:10,620 --> 02:51:13,940
So those people know that they're going to be required to sign this.

2225
02:51:13,940 --> 02:51:15,620
Because it is a substitute change.

2226
02:51:16,140 --> 02:51:18,240
It's not just reading an ethics code and signing it.

2227
02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:20,020
Now you're asking them to disclose something

2228
02:51:20,020 --> 02:51:21,180
where they don't have a conflict.

2229
02:51:21,180 --> 02:51:26,640
So, again, you guys, if you want to just do it that way, then do it part of the interview process.

2230
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:28,900
Advanced notice is appropriate.

2231
02:51:29,660 --> 02:51:34,180
But this way you do it through procedure, you don't need to do anything else.

2232
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:36,100
And I'm not saying it has to be part of the ethics code.

2233
02:51:36,280 --> 02:51:43,960
I'm just saying it, I think it will be productive because you're asking people to now disclose information

2234
02:51:43,960 --> 02:51:45,840
where there is no conflict and it's private.

2235
02:51:46,760 --> 02:51:50,360
Can I offer a Brett Summers a comment on that?

2236
02:51:50,360 --> 02:51:57,660
On the school board, you know, there's laws, there's policies, and there's your procedures.

2237
02:51:58,740 --> 02:52:06,520
If you put into the code of ethics, your administrative practice, it becomes the law,

2238
02:52:07,260 --> 02:52:11,980
and the board of ethics is responsible for enforcing the code of ethics.

2239
02:52:12,280 --> 02:52:15,900
We're not really in a position to be able to say,

2240
02:52:15,900 --> 02:52:25,960
did you send somebody a form and what if you didn't? Is that an article 78 of violation of that?

2241
02:52:25,960 --> 02:52:34,380
This is actual law. The procedures carry a lot of weight. The administrative procedures carry weight as to whether you're being

2242
02:52:35,180 --> 02:52:45,480
And really, the standard for a 70 article 78 procedure is a abusive discretion, that kind of thing.

2243
02:52:45,580 --> 02:52:46,940
Not a violation of law.

2244
02:52:48,300 --> 02:52:53,040
So you really don't want to make this formal into the code of ethics.

2245
02:52:53,980 --> 02:52:56,500
Do it as part of the interview process.

2246
02:52:56,780 --> 02:53:04,240
I think it's productive to as a courtesy to volunteers and I also think it aids the board.

2247
02:53:04,240 --> 02:53:07,740
and getting somebody down the road and then you realize there's a disconnect.

2248
02:53:08,420 --> 02:53:10,960
So, I would not have to believe it, I'm fine not including it.

2249
02:53:10,980 --> 02:53:34,220
My goal is to add, I'd like to concept to, given that the majority seems to be in favor of it somewhere other than in the code I will say I think it is something that I think would be quite useful if we can build it out and I hate to look at Allison and ask her to do more work, but it does feel like a section on the volunteer application form to make

2250
02:53:34,220 --> 02:53:41,640
clear if you are applying for these specific board positions that, and you are selected for

2251
02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:45,200
a board position that, you know, click here to see the disclosure form that you'll be

2252
02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:49,620
asked to fill out on an annual basis, but it's conceptually it's the same thing, but I agree

2253
02:53:49,620 --> 02:53:56,200
that it should be somewhere where it feels like it's anchored to the process.

2254
02:53:56,620 --> 02:54:03,060
And that's even better idea, it's electronic, and so thanks for listening to it, and I would

2255
02:54:03,060 --> 02:54:06,760
say next year, just consider it and figure out a way to do it.

2256
02:54:06,980 --> 02:54:12,240
That's fair to all and easy and maybe an electronic way might even be easier we can see it immediately.

2257
02:54:12,820 --> 02:54:13,160
Sounds great.

2258
02:54:13,240 --> 02:54:22,780
I can't do it, but the other suggestion I had, and this is just to provide

2259
02:54:24,920 --> 02:54:27,380
something to sitting

2260
02:54:27,380 --> 02:54:34,080
volunteers, and we've seen so much this year, and then even tonight, is around campaigning.

2261
02:54:34,080 --> 02:54:38,600
So I think there's something too, and I'm fine if you don't agree with this tonight, but

2262
02:54:38,600 --> 02:54:45,520
I think it should be considered, is a sitting, town board member should be prohibited from soliciting

2263
02:54:45,520 --> 02:54:50,580
political campaign support and or assistance regardless of who the candidate is from any town

2264
02:54:50,580 --> 02:54:51,920
board appointed volunteers.

2265
02:54:53,100 --> 02:54:55,840
So to me that helps separate, can you just repeat that?

2266
02:54:56,460 --> 02:54:56,740
That's right.

2267
02:54:57,280 --> 02:54:57,920
No, no.

2268
02:54:58,080 --> 02:54:58,820
This is my line.

2269
02:54:58,820 --> 02:54:59,240
Okay.

2270
02:54:59,240 --> 02:54:59,540
connection.

2271
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:29,000
We're sitting town board members shall be prohibited from soliciting political or campaign support and or assistance, regardless of who the candidate is, from any town board appointed volunteer, so I'm like what I'm saying there is, doesn't mean that if I'm running and somebody says, hey, Michael, I want to help you. That's totally fine. But to then have an overture from a sitting board member saying, can I, I want your help and somebody says, no, now there's, there's something there that if they come up for renewal,

2272
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:31,460
there's something that was just created.

2273
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:33,700
And to me, I think that'd be better if there

2274
02:55:33,700 --> 02:55:35,380
are a wall there, the way that couldn't exist.

2275
02:55:35,960 --> 02:55:37,220
And you leave it up to the volunteer.

2276
02:55:37,420 --> 02:55:38,660
Hey, I want to help you.

2277
02:55:38,820 --> 02:55:39,060
Great.

2278
02:55:39,180 --> 02:55:40,080
You could help me.

2279
02:55:40,460 --> 02:55:42,400
But you shouldn't be able to solicit their help.

2280
02:55:42,520 --> 02:55:44,360
And then if they say no, now there

2281
02:55:44,360 --> 02:55:47,860
could be something in the future where maybe they

2282
02:55:47,860 --> 02:55:48,740
won't be reappointed.

2283
02:55:48,920 --> 02:55:51,600
So it's just to provide some protection for a volunteer.

2284
02:55:51,740 --> 02:55:52,700
That's all.

2285
02:55:53,020 --> 02:55:53,360
So judge?

2286
02:55:56,750 --> 02:55:58,870
I think that what you're suggesting

2287
02:55:58,870 --> 02:56:01,850
is great.

2288
02:56:06,370 --> 02:56:11,950
We do have a provision that you can solicit campaign contributions,

2289
02:56:13,130 --> 02:56:21,810
sections 27,16, but you're going beyond 27,16 and that highlights for me.

2290
02:56:23,010 --> 02:56:30,510
The point that David made a little while ago, which is that we are in a living document,

2291
02:56:33,230 --> 02:56:41,710
We need to continuously look at it to see what additional changes we make.

2292
02:56:41,970 --> 02:56:44,590
We're talking here about

2293
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:51,840
political contributions in 2076, 16.

2294
02:56:52,140 --> 02:56:54,040
There are other ways to help people.

2295
02:56:54,040 --> 02:57:08,040
So we need to reaffirm that changes to this code are inevitable as we learn more.

2296
02:57:10,420 --> 02:57:17,320
And my, and we've established this where if somebody says, you say, Mike, I want to send you a check. That's fine.

2297
02:57:17,320 --> 02:57:17,720
on solicits.

2298
02:57:17,720 --> 02:57:20,740
Well, there is a small town we've covered this years ago, I remember

2299
02:57:20,740 --> 02:57:21,700
Roland saying that.

2300
02:57:21,800 --> 02:57:23,220
You can't prevent that.

2301
02:57:23,280 --> 02:57:23,780
Can't prevent that.

2302
02:57:23,780 --> 02:57:23,900
Can't prevent that.

2303
02:57:24,280 --> 02:57:25,220
But you can't solicit.

2304
02:57:25,660 --> 02:57:27,780
And there are other things you shouldn't be able to do.

2305
02:57:28,060 --> 02:57:29,900
So not many, we have to be more explicit.

2306
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:33,160
And maybe it's easy language there.

2307
02:57:33,500 --> 02:57:35,740
I'm suggesting it.

2308
02:57:35,740 --> 02:57:38,260
I'm not saying that we have to do it tonight.

2309
02:57:38,280 --> 02:57:40,280
So if you say, let's just get this hearing done.

2310
02:57:40,400 --> 02:57:41,560
And maybe we'll pick it up next year.

2311
02:57:41,740 --> 02:57:42,440
I'm fine with that.

2312
02:57:42,440 --> 02:57:44,360
I'm trying to provide some two suggestions.

2313
02:57:44,360 --> 02:57:57,140
I'm suggesting that tonight, we deal with what we have proposed and that we go back to the drawing boards to see how we can improve the code.

2314
02:57:57,600 --> 02:57:58,720
You want me that?

2315
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:00,520
And dump it on the rest of you next week.

2316
02:58:00,580 --> 02:58:01,720
I'll put it on you.

2317
02:58:02,060 --> 02:58:05,800
The mic got me to revamp the code.

2318
02:58:05,800 --> 02:58:07,180
I'm going to put this one on you, Judge.

2319
02:58:07,180 --> 02:58:13,040
Mike will invite you to join the revision committee in the next year.

2320
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:14,640
Yeah, you got to talk to my wife.

2321
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:16,340
I don't think it's going to happen.

2322
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:17,280
That's a no.

2323
02:58:17,780 --> 02:58:20,380
I saw a lot of head shaking in this direction.

2324
02:58:21,020 --> 02:58:21,920
Anyway, that's all I had.

2325
02:58:22,060 --> 02:58:24,420
Does anybody else have anything else beyond what was said?

2326
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:27,680
Well, I was just going to make it a comment based on your last point.

2327
02:58:28,040 --> 02:58:33,440
Like that maybe next year, it would be great to get a perspective from that

2328
02:58:33,440 --> 02:58:41,540
export on what the further changes are that you would prioritize for the next version after and

2329
02:58:41,540 --> 02:58:47,400
understand that whether it's one thing or ten things that would be great to hear.

2330
02:58:47,920 --> 02:58:53,160
Yeah, and I think that would be, you know, we typically come in front of the board feels like

2331
02:58:53,160 --> 02:58:57,000
more than this, but at least once a year we come in front of the town board to sort of make our

2332
02:58:57,000 --> 02:59:02,740
annual report, and I think we'll try to do that in the first quarter or so the year, and I think

2333
02:59:02,740 --> 02:59:08,620
at that point, we'll be able to come in with some directionality on what we're thinking in terms

2334
02:59:08,620 --> 02:59:11,640
of some additional changes to the ethics code.

2335
02:59:12,640 --> 02:59:14,860
And it could just be monetary or non-monitoring.

2336
02:59:15,980 --> 02:59:17,320
But thanks for listening.

2337
02:59:18,460 --> 02:59:23,960
You guys take it up next year with the form and with the suggestion on the volunteers and

2338
02:59:23,960 --> 02:59:25,480
that's real I had.

2339
02:59:26,520 --> 02:59:29,940
So there's not any other comments, we can close the hearing, but I'll open it up to the board

2340
02:59:29,940 --> 02:59:30,860
if anybody hasn't.

2341
02:59:31,540 --> 02:59:36,000
I have two comments, maybe don't count as three.

2342
02:59:36,600 --> 02:59:41,140
I'm all four, I think it's important that you are repeatedly taking a look at the code

2343
02:59:41,140 --> 02:59:45,040
and trying to prove on it, seeing what's going on in the world, seeing what's going on in town.

2344
02:59:47,040 --> 02:59:51,890
So in Dorosat, I would propose one fix in section three.

2345
02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:58,280
In one A, the section that was added, the dislocation of all real estate in the town of North Castle,

2346
02:59:58,280 --> 02:59:59,920
other than the primary route.

2347
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:09,140
Rezons of you are your relative. When we have language in one B, it refers to parentscipling child, household

2348
03:00:09,140 --> 03:00:13,800
member, et cetera, and it just says, other than their primary residence. So I think to make

2349
03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:20,820
a parallel and make sense to say, other than the primary residence of you or your spouse or domestic

2350
03:00:20,820 --> 03:00:21,100
point.

2351
03:00:25,200 --> 03:00:28,600
It sounds fine, everyone else is in every measure.

2352
03:00:29,780 --> 03:00:29,880
Okay.

2353
03:00:30,200 --> 03:00:31,520
Can you just say that change again?

2354
03:00:31,800 --> 03:00:31,980
Okay.

2355
03:00:32,360 --> 03:00:38,080
So in one A, this location of a real estate in the town of Northcastle, other than the primary

2356
03:00:38,080 --> 03:00:45,520
residents, this involved because before this was covering relatives, so it would be, instead

2357
03:00:45,520 --> 03:00:51,160
of the primary residents of you, you're a relative, it should be the people to whom one A applies

2358
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:53,700
to, which you see right after the pentaticals.

2359
03:00:53,700 --> 03:00:56,980
where your spouse or domestic partner just make it a parallel.

2360
03:00:57,440 --> 03:00:59,460
Oh, yeah. Got it. So there's consistency.

2361
03:01:00,220 --> 03:01:00,260
Yes.

2362
03:01:00,960 --> 03:01:01,200
Okay.

2363
03:01:03,240 --> 03:01:14,900
And then I think it would be helpful for the ethics board also to take a look at 27-6B.

2364
03:01:14,920 --> 03:01:18,620
It says disclosure of interest in legislation and other matters.

2365
03:01:19,480 --> 03:01:22,460
And that says, obviously not something we'll do now,

2366
03:01:22,460 --> 03:01:25,980
But it says, no business officer shall without prior disclosure,

2367
03:01:26,780 --> 03:01:30,900
filled on any matter which materially and directly benefits a political supporter,

2368
03:01:31,420 --> 03:01:34,880
who in the election just prior to when that matter came before the board

2369
03:01:34,880 --> 03:01:37,520
contributed more than 500 to that board members,

2370
03:01:37,960 --> 03:01:41,460
election campaign, we gave that board member a contribution of goods,

2371
03:01:42,580 --> 03:01:46,920
or goods and excuse me, services valued at more than $500.

2372
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:50,740
And the reason I have a concern about that is,

2373
03:01:50,740 --> 03:02:02,300
was a case situation where a board member got contributions of $400 from each of five entities

2374
03:02:02,300 --> 03:02:05,640
in a trust, which seemed to be coming from the same parties.

2375
03:02:06,720 --> 03:02:13,300
And so to my mind, that looks like structuring to get around the limit, because $500 contributions

2376
03:02:13,300 --> 03:02:21,300
add up to $2,000, and if you had done four, if the parties had done four or $500 contributions,

2377
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:27,400
it would have been covered by this potentially. So I think it's merits to look at that

2378
03:02:27,400 --> 03:02:31,600
to see what happened. But it was literally on the same date, the thing was not total of 21,

2379
03:02:32,320 --> 03:02:34,400
where you had five or four in the dollar contributions.

2380
03:02:41,130 --> 03:02:43,270
That's the state election. I

2381
03:02:45,440 --> 03:02:51,340
can't

2382
03:02:51,340 --> 03:02:58,660
Yes, you know, they'll have to look at it in terms of how broadly it applies whether it might have even already applied under the ethics code

2383
03:02:59,340 --> 03:03:05,180
But you want to as we're doing another thing is try to avoid people structuring around things as much as reasonably possible

2384
03:03:05,180 --> 03:03:09,220
something you could super see legally near-xtatilexian campaign finance

2385
03:03:09,220 --> 03:03:14,040
Well, but you guys should look at it. Yeah, okay. We'll see that to our next agenda

2386
03:03:14,040 --> 03:03:16,580
Yeah, see you're saying that

2387
03:03:16,580 --> 03:03:18,320
27-6b

2388
03:03:18,320 --> 03:03:21,660
It doesn't, isn't effective, because it's supersedes the interstate campaign.

2389
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:23,760
I'm not saying, I'm not looking at it.

2390
03:03:23,780 --> 03:03:24,800
I don't have it in front of me.

2391
03:03:24,820 --> 03:03:31,100
I'm just saying as a comment to this board, that I think you need to consult with an attorney

2392
03:03:31,100 --> 03:03:35,500
to make sure that you're not doing something that you think will supersede New York State campaign

2393
03:03:35,500 --> 03:03:36,440
finance law.

2394
03:03:36,640 --> 03:03:37,300
It's one thing.

2395
03:03:37,820 --> 03:03:37,960
All right.

2396
03:03:38,220 --> 03:03:40,160
So you guys should pick it up next year.

2397
03:03:41,080 --> 03:03:44,600
But your point would be you would just want something in our ethics code that groups

2398
03:03:44,600 --> 03:03:47,260
the entities together if you're all related or something like that.

2399
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:51,440
I'm not exactly sure what the answer is and upon further investigation.

2400
03:03:52,020 --> 03:03:53,760
Maybe you figure out what the real situation was.

2401
03:03:54,580 --> 03:03:54,720
Okay.

2402
03:03:55,980 --> 03:03:57,080
We'll add it to the agenda.

2403
03:03:58,280 --> 03:04:00,400
Any other questions or comments on what's proposed?

2404
03:04:02,160 --> 03:04:03,740
This is going to be easy.

2405
03:04:06,420 --> 03:04:10,140
So when I drafted the form of the local law,

2406
03:04:10,360 --> 03:04:14,600
that was true to the Board of Ethics decision,

2407
03:04:14,600 --> 03:04:25,920
which was total consensus, but I noticed a typo really in appendix a box number two, and

2408
03:04:25,920 --> 03:04:30,840
it's not really a typo, it's just an improvement since the term relative and in Trister

2409
03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:39,520
both defined terms. The lawyer in me wants a nishcaps on those so that people understand.

2410
03:04:40,080 --> 03:04:42,400
Those are the terms with the hyperlinks for it.

2411
03:04:42,520 --> 03:04:43,340
Yeah, I know.

2412
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:49,360
It's bootstrapped, but while we're taking care of the business here.

2413
03:04:49,540 --> 03:04:50,380
Thank you.

2414
03:04:50,440 --> 03:04:51,800
Can we have an issue with that?

2415
03:04:51,900 --> 03:04:52,140
No.

2416
03:04:52,140 --> 03:04:52,260
No.

2417
03:04:52,320 --> 03:04:53,000
It's fine with me.

2418
03:04:53,500 --> 03:04:55,700
So any other comments or if we'll close the hearing?

2419
03:04:56,160 --> 03:04:57,780
I'll make the motion to close the hearing.

2420
03:04:58,060 --> 03:04:58,700
If nobody is comments.

2421
03:04:59,240 --> 03:04:59,480
Okay.

2422
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:07,000
And then a motion to approve the changes that were received by us, including the changes verbalized by

2423
03:05:07,800 --> 03:05:15,000
Councilman Berra and I'd like to make that motion and thank the Ethics Board for all the effort you've put on into this.

2424
03:05:15,280 --> 03:05:22,500
It's been a very long road and pushing through and trying to do something good for the town.

2425
03:05:22,560 --> 03:05:28,200
I think it's really important and so residents can have more faith in the officials that are serving them.

2426
03:05:28,200 --> 03:05:32,680
I know real estate is one of the most crucial areas in municipalities.

2427
03:05:33,220 --> 03:05:35,060
I second that motion.

2428
03:05:35,900 --> 03:05:36,560
On fair.

2429
03:05:37,000 --> 03:05:37,180
Hi.

2430
03:05:37,980 --> 03:05:39,760
Great. Thank you all very much.

2431
03:05:40,180 --> 03:05:41,360
Thank you.

2432
03:05:41,360 --> 03:05:43,260
Thank you.

2433
03:05:44,980 --> 03:05:47,000
Under all business.

2434
03:05:48,020 --> 03:05:48,160
Quick.

2435
03:05:48,460 --> 03:05:49,740
Approval of town board minutes.

2436
03:05:50,120 --> 03:05:50,300
Yeah.

2437
03:05:50,940 --> 03:05:51,960
I hate to do this.

2438
03:05:53,200 --> 03:05:56,880
But I should roll in maybe we need some guidance from you because

2439
03:05:56,880 --> 03:06:03,020
When does the town board need to sort of re-appoint the two alternates?

2440
03:06:03,420 --> 03:06:07,520
So they have staggered terms. Would that happen in January? Do we need to do that now?

2441
03:06:08,200 --> 03:06:10,000
We'd think of the organizational meeting.

2442
03:06:10,740 --> 03:06:12,100
That could be done.

2443
03:06:12,580 --> 03:06:13,000
Okay, great.

2444
03:06:13,300 --> 03:06:15,340
So I don't know who keeps the agenda for those.

2445
03:06:15,780 --> 03:06:18,140
That's just to make sure that that's on the agenda.

2446
03:06:18,200 --> 03:06:23,060
So for now we'll proceed with Penny as the other alternate within definite term.

2447
03:06:23,640 --> 03:06:24,480
Okay, thank you again.

2448
03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:25,480
Thank you.

2449
03:06:25,620 --> 03:06:25,960
Thank you.

2450
03:06:25,960 --> 03:06:29,140
So then a motion to approve the town board minutes in November 29th, 2023.

2451
03:06:29,500 --> 03:06:30,120
We'll make that motion.

2452
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:30,560
I'll second.

2453
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:31,400
All favor?

2454
03:06:31,820 --> 03:06:31,860
Aye.

2455
03:06:33,080 --> 03:06:37,500
And then we have an item-consider-request from JMC Planning and Hearing Landscape Architecture

2456
03:06:37,500 --> 03:06:40,440
and Land Serving Peel, Cito Extend, Summit Club.

2457
03:06:40,740 --> 03:06:44,460
It's a temporary special use permit to operate the Summit Golf Club, proposed maintenance

2458
03:06:44,460 --> 03:06:47,640
building and allow public use to the golf course while the residents should units are

2459
03:06:47,640 --> 03:06:52,560
being constructed through next December 31st, so we have any commotion to receive the letter

2460
03:06:52,560 --> 03:06:53,520
from JMC.

2461
03:06:53,600 --> 03:06:54,580
I'll make the motion.

2462
03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:55,100
All second.

2463
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:55,800
All in favor?

2464
03:06:57,120 --> 03:06:57,520
Thank you.

2465
03:06:57,520 --> 03:06:58,300
Good evening, supervisor.

2466
03:06:58,440 --> 03:06:59,240
Members of the board.

2467
03:06:59,520 --> 03:07:01,800
For the record, Paul Siceack from Jamesy.

2468
03:07:02,040 --> 03:07:07,140
Before I get into the good stuff, I just wanted to thank you for your service and it's

2469
03:07:07,140 --> 03:07:07,500
been a while.

2470
03:07:07,660 --> 03:07:08,640
I've been coming to this board.

2471
03:07:08,700 --> 03:07:13,880
I think I started out as a board carrier for my bosses and now look at me now.

2472
03:07:14,640 --> 03:07:14,820
So, anyway.

2473
03:07:16,080 --> 03:07:16,560
So, yeah.

2474
03:07:18,480 --> 03:07:23,040
So, you know, on behalf of some club partners, we're here before your board to, you know, ask for

2475
03:07:23,040 --> 03:07:27,940
when you're extension on a temporary stock-to-use permit associated with it.

2476
03:07:27,940 --> 03:07:34,300
It's somewhat clubed as we continue and finalize our process of locating a suitable area

2477
03:07:34,300 --> 03:07:39,500
for the proposed maintenance building and get a formal submission together for a review

2478
03:07:39,500 --> 03:07:43,480
of the planning board and ultimately review by your board.

2479
03:07:45,390 --> 03:07:47,570
Any comments or questions from the public or the board?

2480
03:07:47,770 --> 03:07:49,330
No, I spoke with Paul today.

2481
03:07:49,330 --> 03:07:55,670
I'm fine with this, and I think that, you know, I think first of all, you cannot get

2482
03:07:55,670 --> 03:07:59,610
site plan approval without this being part of the site plan.

2483
03:08:00,070 --> 03:08:05,270
So I mean, I think that a year, I'm sure, would be more than enough time for you to

2484
03:08:05,810 --> 03:08:10,590
decide where this maintenance building is going to go and all the other specifications.

2485
03:08:12,630 --> 03:08:12,850
Correct.

2486
03:08:14,940 --> 03:08:18,680
I have a question and a comment possible correction.

2487
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:28,940
So, the process of the value, it says you're on the first page, some of the club is in the process of evaluating the location and cost of the maintenance building associated with the golf course.

2488
03:08:29,220 --> 03:08:32,140
So, you first came to the board with that what about two years ago.

2489
03:08:32,460 --> 03:08:36,060
We saw the diagrams and all that. Just so you understand what's been holding it up.

2490
03:08:36,980 --> 03:08:42,880
It's just been a process that's been evolving with discussions with the owner and their grounds keepers.

2491
03:08:43,940 --> 03:08:47,100
the project architects are office.

2492
03:08:47,520 --> 03:08:50,060
There's a process that happens with every new idea.

2493
03:08:50,300 --> 03:08:52,500
It needs to be engineered to a certain extent.

2494
03:08:52,940 --> 03:08:56,640
And then that engineer drawing is being priced out

2495
03:08:56,640 --> 03:09:00,380
so that the owner can evaluate the pricing of these

2496
03:09:00,380 --> 03:09:03,140
maintenance buildings, which are really not cheap these days.

2497
03:09:03,220 --> 03:09:06,660
So we're just trying to find a medium ground

2498
03:09:06,660 --> 03:09:12,140
where we can still have funds to move this project forward.

2499
03:09:12,140 --> 03:09:13,740
So that's really where we are.

2500
03:09:13,960 --> 03:09:14,200
Thank you.

2501
03:09:14,240 --> 03:09:21,960
So as a fair to say, when we originally were before us on the maintenance building, it had the pictures, the elevations and all that, that was more theoretical than anything.

2502
03:09:22,720 --> 03:09:28,040
No, that was really the intent of it and our intent is to keep it in that area.

2503
03:09:29,120 --> 03:09:40,840
It's just the cost of construction now for a double tiered building with structural, you know, holding back great and all that stuff is really driving the price up to them to millions.

2504
03:09:41,860 --> 03:09:43,320
So, that's really what we're going to know.

2505
03:09:43,500 --> 03:09:44,280
You know, you know, you're saying, yes.

2506
03:09:45,120 --> 03:09:45,700
5 million, even.

2507
03:09:46,640 --> 03:09:47,860
So, you close to that point.

2508
03:09:48,380 --> 03:09:51,100
So, you know, these are not low numbers that we're talking about.

2509
03:09:51,260 --> 03:09:54,260
And we're just carefully going through that process.

2510
03:09:54,640 --> 03:09:55,160
Yeah, I'm not criticizing.

2511
03:09:55,720 --> 03:09:56,920
I'm just putting myself on the stand.

2512
03:09:57,200 --> 03:09:58,840
Does a year give you enough time to figure it out?

2513
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:09,740
We hope so, yeah. We're not taking our foot off the gas. We're moving this. It takes time to get the pricing and to evaluate the different items.

2514
03:10:11,260 --> 03:10:16,620
And there's nothing else that's holding it up really. Not that I'm aware of.

2515
03:10:16,620 --> 03:10:20,940
Okay, page two of three, the third recital,

2516
03:10:21,240 --> 03:10:22,560
am I reading this wrong?

2517
03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:24,160
It says, where's the applicant?

2518
03:10:24,300 --> 03:10:26,640
Which is top rate, a limited golf club on the property

2519
03:10:26,640 --> 03:10:28,800
for the 2023 golf season?

2520
03:10:29,720 --> 03:10:31,620
Shouldn't that be the 2024 golf season?

2521
03:10:34,660 --> 03:10:36,540
I would, yes, I think that that language

2522
03:10:36,540 --> 03:10:38,740
was in the first approval.

2523
03:10:39,180 --> 03:10:41,460
So it would assume that it would be 2024, correct?

2524
03:10:41,980 --> 03:10:43,880
All right, so we should fix that.

2525
03:10:44,200 --> 03:10:45,440
Yes, sure, okay, yeah.

2526
03:10:45,580 --> 03:10:48,140
Thank you, I'll send you a bill.

2527
03:10:48,140 --> 03:10:50,120
Any other comments or questions?

2528
03:10:50,680 --> 03:10:50,700
No.

2529
03:10:51,000 --> 03:10:51,760
We'll make the motion.

2530
03:10:51,900 --> 03:10:52,180
Motion.

2531
03:10:52,400 --> 03:10:53,240
We'll adopt the resolution.

2532
03:10:53,400 --> 03:10:54,280
I'll make the motion.

2533
03:10:55,020 --> 03:10:55,360
I'll second.

2534
03:10:55,500 --> 03:10:55,860
All favor?

2535
03:10:56,140 --> 03:10:56,300
Aye.

2536
03:10:56,680 --> 03:10:57,980
We've done miscellaneous saved.

2537
03:10:58,340 --> 03:10:59,000
Thank you.

2538
03:10:59,020 --> 03:10:59,360
Thank you.

2539
03:11:01,300 --> 03:11:01,760
I'll see.

2540
03:11:02,380 --> 03:11:04,340
Consider approval of the payment application numbers two and three

2541
03:11:04,340 --> 03:11:07,260
to grammar restoration for the Northcastle Public Library

2542
03:11:07,260 --> 03:11:09,080
or Montgomery Branch Trust Project.

2543
03:11:09,640 --> 03:11:10,940
I really looked in order there.

2544
03:11:11,060 --> 03:11:13,020
Any other comments or questions on it?

2545
03:11:14,380 --> 03:11:15,120
We'll make the motion.

2546
03:11:15,780 --> 03:11:16,120
I'll second.

2547
03:11:16,340 --> 03:11:16,780
All favor?

2548
03:11:17,260 --> 03:11:17,360
Aye.

2549
03:11:18,300 --> 03:11:20,700
And, indeed, consider approval of the following proposals,

2550
03:11:20,980 --> 03:11:25,440
Kellogg Sessions Consulting, Engineering, and Architectural Planning,

2551
03:11:25,600 --> 03:11:27,740
DPC to T-C and T-C Marits.

2552
03:11:28,060 --> 03:11:30,100
Survey is for global road park baseball fields,

2553
03:11:30,300 --> 03:11:32,500
North White Plains, and we throw the parks and record advisory board.

2554
03:11:32,520 --> 03:11:35,420
This is from Matt Train, our superintendent,

2555
03:11:35,700 --> 03:11:36,640
any comments or questions?

2556
03:11:37,380 --> 03:11:37,560
Yeah.

2557
03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:42,800
This came up in the park and record advisory board meeting a couple times.

2558
03:11:43,360 --> 03:11:47,220
So, it's not totally clear to me and to others

2559
03:11:47,220 --> 03:11:51,760
on the park and record advisory board as to whether or not we need to spend money on a capital

2560
03:11:51,760 --> 03:11:54,240
project on a closed road field or not.

2561
03:11:54,680 --> 03:11:58,200
I definitely think from the research I've done in people I've spoken to that there's

2562
03:11:58,200 --> 03:12:01,040
a need for increase maintenance on the field.

2563
03:12:03,200 --> 03:12:08,300
But what we decided in the park and record advisory board to recommend to the time board

2564
03:12:08,300 --> 03:12:13,120
and hence this memo is why don't we get Keller to look at it and help us figure out if

2565
03:12:13,120 --> 03:12:15,220
this is really going to be something that we need or not.

2566
03:12:15,220 --> 03:12:20,560
But it's not totally clear that there's a capital need here.

2567
03:12:21,060 --> 03:12:25,480
Well, I mean, I was, I think I mentioned this at another board meeting, that Bob

2568
03:12:25,480 --> 03:12:33,280
Candria, who's been very active with the little lead program at Clove Road field, has said

2569
03:12:33,280 --> 03:12:39,000
this has been an issue for 10 years, and there's just, as he's explained it, and I saw it

2570
03:12:39,000 --> 03:12:47,280
and I met him on the phone, that there is definitely a gap, so to speak, maybe a gap

2571
03:12:47,280 --> 03:12:53,280
is not the right word, but it's just that where the outfield meets the infield.

2572
03:12:53,540 --> 03:13:01,200
You can see that there is definitely a difference in terms of the height, and you know it's

2573
03:13:02,540 --> 03:13:08,780
just, it's sometimes are prone to injuries, and you know they just feel very strongly that

2574
03:13:08,780 --> 03:13:13,580
this is something that they've been asking for a decade to be addressed and it's I believe

2575
03:13:13,580 --> 03:13:20,000
in their opinion has gotten worse and you know this is a very important field to those

2576
03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:30,500
children and I think that we should we should in a first of all I don't think that you

2577
03:13:30,500 --> 03:13:35,320
know we certainly neglect our field here in our monk and I'm not saying that you're saying

2578
03:13:35,320 --> 03:13:41,280
We should neglect, but I think this is something that we should move forward with, and it

2579
03:13:41,280 --> 03:13:46,200
was something that Bob Kendria said that no matter who the was head of the Parks and

2580
03:13:46,200 --> 03:13:49,980
Rec Department, that person said, yes, you're right.

2581
03:13:50,080 --> 03:13:52,880
Yes, we'll do it, and it just got a page of hope.

2582
03:13:53,300 --> 03:13:56,040
So I think it's important that we move forward with it.

2583
03:13:56,320 --> 03:14:01,140
Yeah, look, in terms of like a gap between how field and field, I think that that's me sounds

2584
03:14:01,140 --> 03:14:03,880
more like a maintenance issue than like a big CAPAX project.

2585
03:14:04,580 --> 03:14:11,360
I spoke to two people who, one as a board member and one as a passport member, of Kansas

2586
03:14:11,360 --> 03:14:18,940
Go Little League, and their point of view was, there's a maintenance need, there's an AD need,

2587
03:14:19,420 --> 03:14:25,820
just for all sports, and especially there to have a defibrillator outside, as opposed to inside,

2588
03:14:25,920 --> 03:14:30,640
the North by Plains Community Center, but not a capital project need, but, you know,

2589
03:14:30,640 --> 03:14:39,220
I don't think that they want their name on TV, but I'm okay with us moving forward with having

2590
03:14:40,140 --> 03:14:44,140
Kellard look at it, which is what the Park and Reck of Advisory Board's recommendation was.

2591
03:14:46,620 --> 03:14:47,540
I'm fine either way.

2592
03:14:47,760 --> 03:14:50,260
I mean, it's not a lot of money, but it is money.

2593
03:14:50,640 --> 03:14:52,380
20,000 people who are watching.

2594
03:14:53,280 --> 03:14:54,620
Those fields are are important.

2595
03:14:54,780 --> 03:14:56,420
I drive past them every single day.

2596
03:14:56,460 --> 03:14:59,840
I think our parks department, and I told them last week they do an excellent job.

2597
03:15:00,460 --> 03:15:07,000
May taining those fields, but they need some help. The fields are always in very good shape on both fields.

2598
03:15:09,200 --> 03:15:13,520
So, whatever is the path, if you want to wait a little bit, you guys pick it up next year.

2599
03:15:13,640 --> 03:15:17,540
See if Keller says, you know, really, this is the way to go. Let me go that route.

2600
03:15:18,260 --> 03:15:24,640
So, when I'm ever still looking to waste money, but those fields do need attention. They're important. It's an important part of the town.

2601
03:15:24,640 --> 03:15:27,280
And we should be paying close attention to him.

2602
03:15:27,280 --> 03:15:30,760
And Bob is committed to the program for so many years.

2603
03:15:31,660 --> 03:15:32,400
And he knows them.

2604
03:15:32,400 --> 03:15:33,940
And they've put a lot of money in their time

2605
03:15:33,940 --> 03:15:35,740
into them as well to keep them as good as good.

2606
03:15:36,300 --> 03:15:38,620
And there's also another issue that I think, once again,

2607
03:15:38,800 --> 03:15:42,220
an engineering study would certainly look at,

2608
03:15:42,560 --> 03:15:48,280
is that there's a stream that runs behind the house

2609
03:15:48,280 --> 03:15:50,500
that is in the last house on Clove Road.

2610
03:15:50,500 --> 03:15:57,140
And when we get a really heavy rain, the stream obviously becomes swollen and you just have

2611
03:15:57,140 --> 03:15:57,740
a lot of water.

2612
03:15:57,860 --> 03:16:00,220
I have pictures where you just see the water sitting there.

2613
03:16:00,660 --> 03:16:04,000
And so I think there probably needs to be some drainage work.

2614
03:16:04,200 --> 03:16:09,540
So I think it's more than just maintenance from what I've seen and what I've been told.

2615
03:16:09,860 --> 03:16:11,860
So I would like to move forward with this proposal.

2616
03:16:12,240 --> 03:16:17,580
But that's one of the reasons why I'm going to say something, so I was going to ask a question

2617
03:16:17,580 --> 03:16:19,400
to Matt, but why don't you go ahead and then I can ask?

2618
03:16:19,400 --> 03:16:22,940
I actually, do you mind if I just, I'll go for it's a lane to go first.

2619
03:16:25,220 --> 03:16:29,880
So, you know, it's interesting because I spoke to one of these two people brought up the stream in the flooding.

2620
03:16:30,380 --> 03:16:31,320
They're perspective on it.

2621
03:16:31,380 --> 03:16:35,020
And we also talked about this at the park and recognize report, meaning I believe.

2622
03:16:35,340 --> 03:16:36,140
They're perfect on it.

2623
03:16:36,140 --> 03:16:44,800
There's a difference between flooding periodically that can occur because you're really near a stream or a water source and drainage.

2624
03:16:44,800 --> 03:16:49,240
Right, so Lamberti Park is, you know, got a major drainage issue.

2625
03:16:49,320 --> 03:16:53,340
If it rains, it could be muddy there for three days after it rains and the sun.

2626
03:16:53,780 --> 03:16:58,360
But, like, for example, Wampusburg Park, you can get, you know, an inch of rain,

2627
03:16:58,460 --> 03:17:01,680
or two inches of rain, and it looks like half of Wampusburg Park is under water,

2628
03:17:01,760 --> 03:17:02,840
but then it recedes quickly.

2629
03:17:03,380 --> 03:17:04,800
And I think that's really the distinction.

2630
03:17:05,020 --> 03:17:07,200
And that's a very challenging problem to fix,

2631
03:17:07,360 --> 03:17:13,560
that would require, I mean, all sorts of, you know, water control work to be done.

2632
03:17:14,300 --> 03:17:20,200
It's probably in practical, but I'm okay with Keller looking at this and telling us they're

2633
03:17:20,200 --> 03:17:21,920
professional opinion of it.

2634
03:17:22,180 --> 03:17:28,420
And Barbara, just so I understand I agree, the problem that a house has is a serious problem

2635
03:17:28,420 --> 03:17:32,520
that'd be great to be able to fix, but you say that you would do that as part of this.

2636
03:17:32,840 --> 03:17:39,160
If it fits in with the park, I'm saying that I think that an engineer would be looking at

2637
03:17:39,160 --> 03:17:44,900
fields, and this is affecting that, you know, one of the fields, not just that that would

2638
03:17:44,900 --> 03:17:46,000
be part of the study.

2639
03:17:47,220 --> 03:17:47,300
All right.

2640
03:17:47,800 --> 03:17:52,080
So let me ask you something that you're, I may have the more famous last name and baseball,

2641
03:17:52,700 --> 03:17:58,880
but you know a lot more about sports and fields, is there a reason, I mean with all the talent

2642
03:17:58,880 --> 03:18:02,980
we have in town, and I agree if it's important, we should go ahead with it.

2643
03:18:03,140 --> 03:18:08,720
And that's not a notion of armunk, North White Plains back so it's a matter of having

2644
03:18:08,720 --> 03:18:14,700
fields and good shape for people, but don't we have someone who can kind of figure out by looking

2645
03:18:14,700 --> 03:18:20,000
at it instead of doing a whole engineering study? Is there particular rationale for doing

2646
03:18:20,000 --> 03:18:28,720
the engineering study? Was it unanimous from the Parks and Rec board? Was it dissent? I don't remember

2647
03:18:28,720 --> 03:18:33,380
there being, I don't remember there being an actual formal vote. It was a discussion, so I don't

2648
03:18:33,380 --> 03:18:39,300
Now, on the park and record in terms of descent, I also don't know, you know, if we have

2649
03:18:39,300 --> 03:18:43,240
people in town who are qualified or not, so like, you know, know all the things that I

2650
03:18:43,240 --> 03:18:46,740
know, Kellard obviously would, as a professional engineer wouldn't know more.

2651
03:18:48,180 --> 03:18:52,360
But the people I spoke to, like I said, articulated that the issue is more of a maintenance

2652
03:18:52,360 --> 03:18:57,240
issue than a capital project issue, could you come up with capital projects that could make

2653
03:18:57,240 --> 03:18:58,120
the field better?

2654
03:18:58,420 --> 03:19:03,180
I'm sure, I'm sure you could do it with any field, but it's not like, you know, a field

2655
03:19:03,180 --> 03:19:08,100
that has some really obvious capital project

2656
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:10,900
constraint as far as I was told the way with,

2657
03:19:11,060 --> 03:19:12,240
let's say, Limbardi would have,

2658
03:19:12,240 --> 03:19:13,660
where you go to Limbardi and say,

2659
03:19:13,780 --> 03:19:16,480
unless you spend capital to put in drainage

2660
03:19:16,480 --> 03:19:20,280
and truck in a crazy amount of topsoil,

2661
03:19:20,960 --> 03:19:22,400
you're not gonna have a playable field,

2662
03:19:22,920 --> 03:19:24,320
which is really a capital project

2663
03:19:24,320 --> 03:19:25,420
that needs to address it.

2664
03:19:25,660 --> 03:19:28,640
Like I said, I'm okay with us pursuing and looking into it.

2665
03:19:29,300 --> 03:19:32,820
It's not, to me, I think the more obvious need is maintenance.

2666
03:19:32,820 --> 03:19:42,580
So let me ask you something on that, does it make sense as a first step to talk to Kellard to

2667
03:19:42,580 --> 03:19:47,620
look at it and see whether it might be a main end issue as opposed to going ahead with more formal

2668
03:19:48,140 --> 03:19:56,300
thing? Do they go with your barber when you want? No, it was just Larry and I'll can't do it.

2669
03:19:56,300 --> 03:19:57,680
Because that might be a good approach.

2670
03:19:59,340 --> 03:19:59,620
Yeah, boom.

2671
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:06,620
I think you need to get matrainer sending us a recommendation to do this. So pause on it, that's fine.

2672
03:20:07,120 --> 03:20:15,040
But I think you need to have Matt obviously believes this in the path to go. So Matt's got to be included in this, maybe bug canterie as well.

2673
03:20:15,420 --> 03:20:20,200
And if you want to pause on it, it sounds like we should, because I don't think there's enough support here for it.

2674
03:20:20,380 --> 03:20:27,120
But I wouldn't, I wouldn't just discard it. I'd do some more due diligence and say, what is really driving this? Why do they really think that this is the way to go?

2675
03:20:27,120 --> 03:20:30,540
and maybe money you need to spend in the context of things.

2676
03:20:30,800 --> 03:20:35,180
It's not a lot of money for those fields because they're used all the time for football,

2677
03:20:35,240 --> 03:20:39,440
for soccer, for softball, for baseball, so they're heavily used.

2678
03:20:40,060 --> 03:20:44,980
My thought is that we go ahead with it, but if you look at the page 5 of 7, the cost of

2679
03:20:44,980 --> 03:20:46,280
services, it's phased.

2680
03:20:46,740 --> 03:20:51,640
And so I think we go ahead with it, but ask Keller to get back to us after their initial

2681
03:20:51,640 --> 03:20:52,800
preliminary look.

2682
03:20:52,880 --> 03:20:56,220
Yeah, exactly before they spend all the money to just tell us what they think.

2683
03:20:56,220 --> 03:21:01,560
So start with the base mapping phase you know exactly and ask them to come and just talk to us and tell us

2684
03:21:01,560 --> 03:21:05,600
We're telling Matt Trainer who could tell us if they think there's a gap because you know

2685
03:21:05,600 --> 03:21:11,760
I know a lot about athletic fields, but I'm not an engineer qualified to really know if there's an easier capital project or not

2686
03:21:12,640 --> 03:21:17,420
Yeah, Mike I thought you and I were more on the same wavelength, but that's exactly what I'm saying

2687
03:21:17,420 --> 03:21:23,940
Yeah, you know, not slowed down not pause it, but have them go out first with the idea of is this maintenance can I fix it

2688
03:21:24,940 --> 03:21:29,300
things like that. That's fine. I thought you were saying let's not do this and let's talk

2689
03:21:29,300 --> 03:21:34,140
to Kellogg first, but if you're saying let's approve this, but phase it contingent, we

2690
03:21:34,140 --> 03:21:35,500
can't do that. I mean,

2691
03:21:37,820 --> 03:21:41,540
I really think, because I think we should move forward with this

2692
03:21:41,540 --> 03:21:52,000
and not table it. So we need a motion to do. So I had a question about the users of the fields,

2693
03:21:52,000 --> 03:21:58,420
This field like who so one thing that is not clear to me and I'd love to bring through the process

2694
03:21:59,040 --> 03:22:05,240
Like the folks that are actually utilizing these fields their voices and what they're doing this issue

2695
03:22:05,240 --> 03:22:13,100
Like I've heard it as through others, but I'd love to hear it directly with them either like I can call them separately or they can actually be part of that

2696
03:22:13,560 --> 03:22:15,900
I could give you about came to contact

2697
03:22:15,900 --> 03:22:18,560
Yeah, that's certainly okay, but like I think

2698
03:22:18,560 --> 03:22:23,300
And given where this is going, this conversation, I think one thing that could be really great

2699
03:22:23,300 --> 03:22:27,340
for the town also is to have more visibility to what's needed on those fields.

2700
03:22:28,180 --> 03:22:36,400
So if we, if we give a green light to color getting started, and then we have like a time

2701
03:22:36,400 --> 03:22:46,100
point, it's after that first phase of work where color comes in presents, it'll be good

2702
03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:52,580
And then have them come and also react as part of that session.

2703
03:22:52,920 --> 03:22:57,880
I think that would be really great because that's the part that is fuzzy to me right now.

2704
03:22:58,320 --> 03:23:04,380
I've heard things from multiple residents about whether we should look at the fields,

2705
03:23:04,580 --> 03:23:06,760
maybe we should look at the fields for a full road.

2706
03:23:07,300 --> 03:23:11,560
But actually none of those people so far have been people that have been using it directly.

2707
03:23:12,320 --> 03:23:22,580
So, I'd love to have those folks come forward and talk about what those needs are, because they might be very different, or they might be exactly this, I just don't know.

2708
03:23:23,440 --> 03:23:35,620
It's fine. I mean, I know Bob Kendria is all over this, so he's maybe it's weighted, but he lives in breathe these fields for cancer, plus there are other fields that are in Valhalla.

2709
03:23:36,340 --> 03:23:41,240
So, he's a pretty good barometer on how he feels about it, but that's fine. I think we should approve this.

2710
03:23:42,500 --> 03:23:50,380
And then do what you just said next early next year, well, it's still not the spring months and try to get more closure on it.

2711
03:23:50,400 --> 03:23:59,620
And could you agree right now, like, or not necessarily agree, but like, would you mind just pointing out who those people are that we do see as important voices?

2712
03:23:59,620 --> 03:24:03,960
It's just like I have a little bit of one as Bob can for you, and I'll give you his contact information.

2713
03:24:04,320 --> 03:24:04,400
Okay.

2714
03:24:04,620 --> 03:24:06,320
Football, youth football, you have soccer.

2715
03:24:07,020 --> 03:24:07,940
And who is that?

2716
03:24:08,020 --> 03:24:08,480
I don't know.

2717
03:24:08,740 --> 03:24:09,340
You have to look at it.

2718
03:24:09,400 --> 03:24:12,900
I just say when I see what I drive past those fields twice a day.

2719
03:24:14,020 --> 03:24:16,420
And I don't think we use them for soft learning more for town.

2720
03:24:16,520 --> 03:24:17,640
I used to play down there.

2721
03:24:17,980 --> 03:24:23,460
But I could tell you when I played down there and I played in field that lip was not, it was

2722
03:24:23,460 --> 03:24:23,720
dangerous.

2723
03:24:24,660 --> 03:24:26,740
So far, it's really just, it's so dangerous.

2724
03:24:27,900 --> 03:24:31,860
But again, they literally use it probably more than anybody.

2725
03:24:32,580 --> 03:24:33,560
Those fields.

2726
03:24:34,420 --> 03:24:37,540
And then you'd have to look up to the youth leagues for youth football and soccer.

2727
03:24:37,620 --> 03:24:38,960
And anybody else that use it?

2728
03:24:38,960 --> 03:24:40,080
So it's a girl's soccer.

2729
03:24:40,300 --> 03:24:40,500
I don't know.

2730
03:24:41,020 --> 03:24:43,720
So youth football, soccer.

2731
03:24:44,560 --> 03:24:45,440
Anyone else?

2732
03:24:45,600 --> 03:24:46,240
I don't know.

2733
03:24:46,320 --> 03:24:46,780
I don't know.

2734
03:24:46,860 --> 03:24:47,920
Sorry, you don't need to know everything.

2735
03:24:48,460 --> 03:24:49,180
I thought it was like...

2736
03:24:49,180 --> 03:24:49,740
I would just...

2737
03:24:49,740 --> 03:24:54,960
I'd try to figure out who contracts to use the fields and then go that route.

2738
03:24:54,960 --> 03:24:59,980
So yeah, maybe then it's about asking mat trainer for the list of who you'd use is the

2739
03:25:00,640 --> 03:25:22,560
And then having each of those folks be notified that we're going to do this. And then I'd love to know who those people are. So it would be nice to when we get the list from Matt trainer for that to be shared. Then I think we can get a good voice and then understand what to do.

2740
03:25:22,560 --> 03:25:22,880
Yeah,

2741
03:25:25,260 --> 03:25:25,520
okay.

2742
03:25:26,180 --> 03:25:27,680
So, I'm most hungry from the time.

2743
03:25:28,080 --> 03:25:29,480
You know, this is just one point.

2744
03:25:29,960 --> 03:25:31,880
And Angela will support me in this, I think.

2745
03:25:32,120 --> 03:25:33,780
I was not a little late board for 18 years

2746
03:25:33,780 --> 03:25:36,860
and responsible for field maintenance for a lot of that time

2747
03:25:36,860 --> 03:25:37,300
and scheduling.

2748
03:25:38,080 --> 03:25:43,620
Those lips are created by coaches shoveling water off.

2749
03:25:43,740 --> 03:25:46,960
And we had a major undertaking to bring hand pumps in.

2750
03:25:47,100 --> 03:25:52,160
That's where you saw those big canisters behind home plate

2751
03:25:52,160 --> 03:25:56,620
And with buckets to pump that into the buckets, that's the main reason.

2752
03:25:56,800 --> 03:26:00,860
So I think the record needs to really try to educate the baseball leagues.

2753
03:26:01,000 --> 03:26:05,680
So use that, that people are not to take brooms or brushes and sweep that water off.

2754
03:26:05,980 --> 03:26:10,200
Because that's exactly what creates the lips on the inside and the outside of the infield.

2755
03:26:10,480 --> 03:26:12,360
And some out of education to the leagues and the coaches.

2756
03:26:12,980 --> 03:26:14,200
Did you have success with that, Neil?

2757
03:26:14,500 --> 03:26:14,920
Educating?

2758
03:26:15,540 --> 03:26:18,820
Well, we did that throughout the end of my term.

2759
03:26:18,820 --> 03:26:22,140
you know, so I can't comment as to whether it's hard to stop coaches from

2760
03:26:22,140 --> 03:26:24,960
shoving the water off the field and it's like a thing everybody's done for

2761
03:26:24,960 --> 03:26:28,660
years without realizing that that's exactly what's building the lip up as

2762
03:26:28,660 --> 03:26:32,680
opposed to pumping it in and carrying that water off and don't begin off on

2763
03:26:32,680 --> 03:26:38,680
the side so I can't answer that question. Okay. So if that's it. Okay, I just

2764
03:26:38,680 --> 03:26:42,660
actually had a question to make sure I understood that. So the education that we

2765
03:26:42,660 --> 03:26:46,240
need to make sure is provided that's something that you see as something

2766
03:26:46,240 --> 03:26:51,720
parks and wreck? Well, I think parks and wreck board can talk to the youth leagues to baseball

2767
03:26:51,720 --> 03:26:57,440
leagues and make sure and softball leagues to make sure they're not shoveling the water off

2768
03:26:57,440 --> 03:27:04,280
and that they're using a hand pump for the standing water and then moving the standing water off

2769
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:09,020
the field and dumping it on the side. I think it's a matter of somebody educating the leagues and

2770
03:27:09,020 --> 03:27:13,980
reminding them that this is why those lips build up. And just from your experience,

2771
03:27:15,000 --> 03:27:20,060
Who is in a position to best be listened to when it comes to this?

2772
03:27:20,440 --> 03:27:23,460
Well, the lead commissioners would be whoever's in charge of each one of the leads

2773
03:27:23,460 --> 03:27:25,380
to tell them to make sure they're instructing the coaches.

2774
03:27:25,600 --> 03:27:27,420
And they have coaches meetings every year, so.

2775
03:27:27,440 --> 03:27:27,580
Cool.

2776
03:27:28,180 --> 03:27:28,980
Thank you.

2777
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:30,480
Yeah.

2778
03:27:33,570 --> 03:27:34,530
Very familiar.

2779
03:27:34,550 --> 03:27:38,310
Very familiar with me all the same.

2780
03:27:38,890 --> 03:27:45,750
Has anybody ever done a study to see what it would cost to actually have maintenance

2781
03:27:45,750 --> 03:27:47,410
people available on weekends.

2782
03:27:48,450 --> 03:27:52,970
We shouldn't have coaches sweeping water off the field.

2783
03:27:54,770 --> 03:28:00,850
Maybe there should be a study done to see maybe it will cost you $50,000 a year to have

2784
03:28:00,850 --> 03:28:06,210
a maintenance guy on the weekend and they'll save you extra maintenance on the fields.

2785
03:28:06,750 --> 03:28:08,670
Because that's, you know, meals right.

2786
03:28:08,830 --> 03:28:13,490
We had coaches, we had out there Saturday mornings and you know, it wasn't, we didn't

2787
03:28:13,490 --> 03:28:14,270
know what we were doing.

2788
03:28:14,270 --> 03:28:22,870
But if you had a main in this guy who was out there with a, with a, with a, with the machine and things like that, maybe could save money that way as well.

2789
03:28:23,390 --> 03:28:27,350
I think that makes a lot of sense. You know, one of the conversations I'll revisit it with him.

2790
03:28:27,350 --> 03:28:36,270
One of the conversations I had with that trainer a couple of months ago was about putting up signs on the baseball fields in all Northcastle.

2791
03:28:36,270 --> 03:28:47,470
You know, you're not permit coaches are not permitted to do field maintenance unless they've spoken in sat down with Matt Trainer for five minutes to, you know, get a permit from him.

2792
03:28:47,590 --> 03:28:51,650
Where he explains to get the permit, this is proper field maintenance and what you're supposed to do.

2793
03:28:52,050 --> 03:28:57,450
I know that they do line sometimes in the weekend, but I think your point is right that we need better field maintenance overall.

2794
03:29:00,050 --> 03:29:01,850
I think it's a big part of the solution.

2795
03:29:03,850 --> 03:29:08,450
So what I would say, I think we were talking about approving this, I agree, let's move forward.

2796
03:29:08,930 --> 03:29:14,990
It's not clear to me, in addition to the costs that are here of how much is it?

2797
03:29:15,090 --> 03:29:21,690
19,000 and then 35,225, but really 19,000 in the first couple of phases.

2798
03:29:22,070 --> 03:29:25,850
But then there's an extra 69,50 from land surveyors.

2799
03:29:26,530 --> 03:29:31,210
I'm not sure how early in the process, if it's in, I suspect it's one of the earlier parts.

2800
03:29:31,210 --> 03:29:38,390
As a preliminary to this, I would just get together with Kellard and have him give a sense whether it is worth going down this road.

2801
03:29:38,590 --> 03:29:39,590
And if he confirms that.

2802
03:29:39,750 --> 03:29:41,350
So, can somebody clarify a motion?

2803
03:29:41,450 --> 03:29:42,390
I need we need to move on.

2804
03:29:42,510 --> 03:29:43,530
I'm not going to move on, too.

2805
03:29:43,710 --> 03:29:44,330
What's the motion?

2806
03:29:44,630 --> 03:29:51,490
I'd like to, I would like to make a motion to approve the following proposal from Kellard Session.

2807
03:29:51,570 --> 03:29:56,850
It's consulting engineering and landscaping for and merits for the closed field.

2808
03:29:57,070 --> 03:29:57,510
But stay.

2809
03:29:57,650 --> 03:29:58,610
But what about the stage?

2810
03:29:59,070 --> 03:29:59,970
And so we're going to look.

2811
03:30:00,210 --> 03:30:10,770
We're going to ask if we can see the results of the first phase, and is it maintenance versus this? Is it a four word that really we need to do some work to do?

2812
03:30:10,770 --> 03:30:12,990
That's a lot of motion. I mean, summarize that.

2813
03:30:13,190 --> 03:30:21,390
Before we try to summarize it, more simply, the statement you just made was, I think, on the first phase, like, pausing after the first phase.

2814
03:30:21,390 --> 03:30:25,590
And when we talk about the first phase, I think we're just talking about the base mapping phase.

2815
03:30:26,230 --> 03:30:30,610
If that's, but what I just, just based on this discussion,

2816
03:30:31,490 --> 03:30:34,670
I just don't know if that first phase is of any value.

2817
03:30:35,050 --> 03:30:38,770
Actually, because that first phase doesn't provide any kind of recommendation,

2818
03:30:38,790 --> 03:30:41,710
it only provides mapping of the space.

2819
03:30:42,450 --> 03:30:47,270
You know, it just shows you like basically artifacts that show what it is that we already see.

2820
03:30:47,310 --> 03:30:49,110
Like we can show that from a satellite image.

2821
03:30:49,110 --> 03:30:56,930
So, the thing I'm just wondering Barbara is if there's a way to re-phase the project so that we could

2822
03:30:56,930 --> 03:31:04,590
rather than spending $2,017,000, if we could spend $5,000 to do some preliminary kind of thing.

2823
03:31:04,590 --> 03:31:05,590
What are we asking Kevin?

2824
03:31:05,810 --> 03:31:09,590
What are we asking Kevin to speak with engineers in New York?

2825
03:31:09,590 --> 03:31:11,490
Well, that's what I'm going to suggest is table list.

2826
03:31:11,490 --> 03:31:11,810
Okay.

2827
03:31:12,230 --> 03:31:12,650
That's a shame.

2828
03:31:12,950 --> 03:31:14,490
No, I don't know if it's a shame.

2829
03:31:14,730 --> 03:31:15,290
I think it is.

2830
03:31:15,290 --> 03:31:17,750
You know, you're going to pick it up in three weeks or so

2831
03:31:17,750 --> 03:31:21,850
in the meantime Kevin can sit with if you guys are okay with it look Matt and

2832
03:31:21,850 --> 03:31:25,450
the engineer maybe go down there and to Matt

2833
03:31:26,030 --> 03:31:31,410
Millum's point what what do we really need here and is this accomplishing it and

2834
03:31:31,410 --> 03:31:35,330
it might be and they might say this is exactly why we propose this because this is

2835
03:31:35,330 --> 03:31:39,250
accomplishing what you want which is a look so but it might just be back to the point

2836
03:31:39,250 --> 03:31:43,430
you may are the head of parts of the record has recommended this you know and he

2837
03:31:43,430 --> 03:31:46,150
He's met with Bob Candrea.

2838
03:31:46,410 --> 03:31:49,490
He has met, I forget who I'll see met with.

2839
03:31:49,630 --> 03:31:55,010
But I mean, I just think that that trainer wouldn't have made

2840
03:31:55,010 --> 03:31:58,550
this recommendation if he didn't think that, indeed,

2841
03:31:58,950 --> 03:32:01,750
we needed to fix these two fields.

2842
03:32:01,890 --> 03:32:03,350
We're flying a little blind here.

2843
03:32:03,410 --> 03:32:06,110
I think what you should do is do what you want.

2844
03:32:07,390 --> 03:32:10,150
But we're asking questions and we don't have people here

2845
03:32:10,150 --> 03:32:11,190
to answer them.

2846
03:32:11,490 --> 03:32:13,350
So maybe you have a work session in early January

2847
03:32:13,350 --> 03:32:15,610
and get mad here, and Bob Canjury here,

2848
03:32:15,610 --> 03:32:18,330
and maybe other people from the leagues and Kevin,

2849
03:32:18,870 --> 03:32:22,210
and get this right versus approving it,

2850
03:32:22,230 --> 03:32:23,330
and then we're not sure if it's right or not.

2851
03:32:23,350 --> 03:32:25,190
Like Barbara, for example, there's things in here

2852
03:32:25,190 --> 03:32:30,070
in the scope of services they talk about grading improvements

2853
03:32:30,070 --> 03:32:34,570
fine, irrigation, the field doesn't need irrigation.

2854
03:32:35,430 --> 03:32:36,650
I don't think he was trying to.

2855
03:32:36,710 --> 03:32:40,090
It says irrigation, looking in the paragraph of scope of services.

2856
03:32:41,070 --> 03:32:42,950
I'm not against doing this, by the way.

2857
03:32:42,950 --> 03:32:46,710
So, like your comment to say, this is a shame as if we're not doing it, I don't think

2858
03:32:46,710 --> 03:32:47,130
it's fair.

2859
03:32:47,610 --> 03:32:49,510
I'm just saying, let's just do it intelligently.

2860
03:32:49,810 --> 03:32:50,350
That's all.

2861
03:32:50,650 --> 03:32:53,550
And I can't tell you if it needs irrigation, I don't know.

2862
03:32:54,010 --> 03:32:57,770
And I just want to make a comment with which of the board agrees would just be guidance

2863
03:32:57,770 --> 03:33:02,850
to Kevin, which is as we are to Barbara, if you're discussing this as well.

2864
03:33:03,190 --> 03:33:10,250
So, I think two things first, I do think it's really a good Barbara for you, like if you

2865
03:33:10,250 --> 03:33:13,110
and Matt work closely together on the fields.

2866
03:33:13,450 --> 03:33:17,170
I recommend it only because I think that the process

2867
03:33:17,170 --> 03:33:19,690
we've taken so far for the other fields,

2868
03:33:20,370 --> 03:33:22,070
I think that it would be nice to be,

2869
03:33:22,070 --> 03:33:24,030
I'll just aligned and using the same process.

2870
03:33:25,710 --> 03:33:29,710
And then the other piece was just based on what I learned

2871
03:33:29,710 --> 03:33:31,690
in this car station, which I thought was really valuable.

2872
03:33:32,210 --> 03:33:36,470
I think it would be nice to look for recommendations

2873
03:33:36,470 --> 03:33:44,890
from Kellard, or from the team, the coaches, not just on capital

2874
03:33:44,890 --> 03:33:48,870
programs, but also on other kinds of things that...

2875
03:33:48,870 --> 03:33:49,950
Whether it might be maintenance.

2876
03:33:51,170 --> 03:33:56,690
You could just, the broad spectrum of things that can be done to improve the use of the fields.

2877
03:33:57,030 --> 03:33:59,470
Because it sounds like there's various things that could be done.

2878
03:33:59,730 --> 03:34:05,730
So I'd love to do like a full, not delay anything, but just like actually

2879
03:34:05,730 --> 03:34:10,370
think through what are the best things we can do for the field, you know, and make those

2880
03:34:10,370 --> 03:34:16,030
things happen. So is there a motion to table, a motion to prove what's the motion?

2881
03:34:18,850 --> 03:34:22,650
Do you want to remake a different motion? Do you want to remake a different motion?

2882
03:34:22,810 --> 03:34:29,870
Otherwise I can make one part of it. Do you like to do something different?

2883
03:34:31,050 --> 03:34:34,870
I mean, I bang it clear. I really would like to go forward with this. I understand the rest

2884
03:34:34,870 --> 03:34:39,650
It doesn't feel that way, so, you know, I'll go with them, you know, whatever you want to do.

2885
03:34:40,170 --> 03:34:40,830
That's not true.

2886
03:34:41,110 --> 03:34:42,670
I'm fine with this going forward with this.

2887
03:34:42,710 --> 03:34:46,410
I just think we should do it in an intelligent way and know the problem that we're fixing.

2888
03:34:46,670 --> 03:34:47,990
A little bit different way.

2889
03:34:49,310 --> 03:34:50,730
But not to say this is not an intelligent way.

2890
03:34:50,790 --> 03:34:51,830
It's a slain's point.

2891
03:34:52,030 --> 03:34:55,710
You're saying that we're going to spend two grand from mapping.

2892
03:34:56,750 --> 03:34:58,570
And what are we going to learn from that?

2893
03:34:58,690 --> 03:34:59,710
And then you got the next chunk.

2894
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:07,160
17,000, which is most of this call. And that first phase may be more than 2,000, because we got the serving person. I'm not sure where that fits in.

2895
03:35:08,140 --> 03:35:09,720
So somebody please make a decision.

2896
03:35:09,720 --> 03:35:11,500
So I'd like to make a motion here.

2897
03:35:11,880 --> 03:35:22,620
Yes. So I'd like to make a motion to table this proposal and come back in January with this on the agenda for discussion.

2898
03:35:23,500 --> 03:35:28,560
And I would recommend even a work session or something where you're going to get these stakeholders involved.

2899
03:35:28,560 --> 03:35:29,400
Okay.

2900
03:35:29,820 --> 03:35:33,960
Good for this in the meantime, Kevin can at least have some advanced conversations so

2901
03:35:33,960 --> 03:35:36,960
he can express the concern that some of the work that we're going to see.

2902
03:35:37,000 --> 03:35:42,720
So I'd like to remake that motion to table this recommendation and then come back in January

2903
03:35:42,720 --> 03:35:45,100
with the work session on the agenda.

2904
03:35:45,780 --> 03:35:53,840
And is it, is it all Kevin, can you at least meet on site with Kellard, be sure a work session?

2905
03:35:54,040 --> 03:35:54,560
Absolutely.

2906
03:35:54,560 --> 03:36:00,160
So that Kellogg has some idea what we're talking about I'd like to be there, too, if it's okay

2907
03:36:04,940 --> 03:36:08,640
I start off with the motion is is the motion to table it and then have a meeting

2908
03:36:09,380 --> 03:36:18,300
Yeah, we can just table this for all right. I think they have a label guys figure out the instructions for a five-minute biobrake

2909
03:36:18,300 --> 03:36:19,940
Yeah, I'm in a biobrake. Thank you

2910
03:36:20,520 --> 03:36:21,680
Go quick. Yes,

2911
03:36:24,630 --> 03:36:27,310
we'll get your home soon. Yeah, I've been like just

2912
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:02,680
I got to go and put my garbage can.

2913
03:42:43,160 --> 03:42:45,390
I was to cue. Are you ready? We're on.

2914
03:42:46,520 --> 03:42:49,440
We're Jason's aware and he will start the cameras.

2915
03:43:01,380 --> 03:43:03,940
I'm not waiting for you. I'm not waiting for you.

2916
03:43:03,940 --> 03:43:05,320
Recording in progress.

2917
03:43:05,760 --> 03:43:05,820
Okay.

2918
03:43:07,240 --> 03:43:13,840
So we're going to do five A.P. and I, some of the cities here are a director or a superintendent of water and sewer.

2919
03:43:13,840 --> 03:43:17,760
So, the first item is consider approval of public water, main easement agreement with

2920
03:43:17,760 --> 03:43:20,480
the Environmental Essentials School District, number one, and provide a public water

2921
03:43:20,480 --> 03:43:24,280
to Lombardi Park, an authorization for the supervisor to sign the agreement.

2922
03:43:24,800 --> 03:43:25,860
Any comments or questions?

2923
03:43:28,150 --> 03:43:31,450
I have the original agreement, and I forgot to bring it, but I'll get it to you.

2924
03:43:32,170 --> 03:43:35,230
And again, I think it's said it somewhere, and we talked about it.

2925
03:43:35,350 --> 03:43:37,470
This doesn't mean we're going forward with being in the district.

2926
03:43:38,030 --> 03:43:38,770
It's just...

2927
03:43:38,770 --> 03:43:43,330
But the filming that someday something may happen there, it's good for us to go.

2928
03:43:43,330 --> 03:43:44,330
We're advancing the ball.

2929
03:43:45,010 --> 03:43:53,280
Okay, all right, so I'll make a motion on that also I can on favor next and nothing to comment on that sound we're good

2930
03:44:06,590 --> 03:44:13,830
This is the idea you're talking about the idea of doing like an eight inch

2931
03:44:13,830 --> 03:44:18,710
Well, we'll see. We'll have to kick that around and see what the economics look like.

2932
03:44:18,870 --> 03:44:21,950
And the purpose of doing that is we've discussed in the past would be if you have eight

2933
03:44:21,950 --> 03:44:23,910
inch and then you want to bring water out.

2934
03:44:24,130 --> 03:44:25,790
It depends on the health department.

2935
03:44:26,110 --> 03:44:28,610
So we have to talk about and federal that out.

2936
03:44:28,610 --> 03:44:31,610
Not saying there aren't other obstacles, but the idea of an eight inch.

2937
03:44:31,770 --> 03:44:32,830
We're going to talk about.

2938
03:44:33,030 --> 03:44:35,510
But let me just say the idea of an eight inch for people are watching.

2939
03:44:36,050 --> 03:44:39,990
Is that then potentially you could use that to bring public water up to that area?

2940
03:44:40,150 --> 03:44:41,190
To that area in the future.

2941
03:44:41,190 --> 03:44:43,350
Yeah, if it's feasible.

2942
03:44:43,770 --> 03:44:44,570
We'll say, great.

2943
03:44:44,910 --> 03:44:48,430
Some stay there, sounds so I'm B, consider what a bit of slack

2944
03:44:48,430 --> 03:44:50,830
chemical for 2024 to do with district number two.

2945
03:44:50,910 --> 03:44:52,870
Methanel supply and authorization for the supervisor

2946
03:44:52,870 --> 03:44:55,110
to sign the agreement and then comment the question.

2947
03:44:55,350 --> 03:44:56,370
It's really looked in good order.

2948
03:44:56,930 --> 03:44:58,690
I just have one question.

2949
03:44:58,810 --> 03:44:59,970
What were the prices before?

2950
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:02,140
Do you remember off the top of your head?

2951
03:45:02,820 --> 03:45:09,880
There were slightly less, a full load was about 50, 59, 100 or something like that.

2952
03:45:09,980 --> 03:45:10,500
That surprises a lot.

2953
03:45:11,740 --> 03:45:15,200
Just so you know, this is the same company we could actually jump.

2954
03:45:15,440 --> 03:45:20,240
We really can't jump on their bid. They supply the county with methanol.

2955
03:45:20,440 --> 03:45:22,000
But the county uses a hundred percent.

2956
03:45:22,860 --> 03:45:26,140
Our processes is only 20 percent, so they make a special solution for us.

2957
03:45:26,460 --> 03:45:29,160
So they're really the only bidder that can make it.

2958
03:45:29,160 --> 03:45:31,160
Yeah, okay. Thank you.

2959
03:45:31,820 --> 03:45:33,360
So a motion to award.

2960
03:45:33,480 --> 03:45:34,520
I'll make the motion.

2961
03:45:34,880 --> 03:45:35,340
How's the second?

2962
03:45:35,520 --> 03:45:35,900
On favor.

2963
03:45:36,500 --> 03:45:39,340
I want to jump to I and then we'll jump back to see.

2964
03:45:39,700 --> 03:45:41,280
Consider approval of amendment and agreement with Langen

2965
03:45:41,280 --> 03:45:45,440
Engineering for Consulting Services or Services in.

2966
03:45:45,660 --> 03:45:47,640
What are just a number two related to windmill wells.

2967
03:45:48,480 --> 03:45:51,280
PFOAs, treatment, pilot study and authorization for the supervisor

2968
03:45:51,280 --> 03:45:52,540
to sign the agreement.

2969
03:45:53,160 --> 03:45:54,440
And the y'all stand, everything will come through.

2970
03:45:54,600 --> 03:45:56,320
Just so everybody knows what this is.

2971
03:45:56,320 --> 03:45:59,680
This is an approval of the health department,

2972
03:46:00,600 --> 03:46:03,180
yet from the health department to do this.

2973
03:46:03,580 --> 03:46:05,820
The health department requires that you put in

2974
03:46:05,820 --> 03:46:08,460
install a mini plant, so to speak,

2975
03:46:08,960 --> 03:46:11,300
to do the same purpose of what the final plant would be,

2976
03:46:11,500 --> 03:46:13,640
and they want to see how it works.

2977
03:46:14,340 --> 03:46:16,920
So it's a pilot, and we have to install this equipment.

2978
03:46:17,640 --> 03:46:19,520
Run it for a period of time.

2979
03:46:20,420 --> 03:46:22,460
Collect samples, all kinds of data.

2980
03:46:22,460 --> 03:46:28,540
They technically want to see it until the PFOA's breakthrough, but the manufacturer, the

2981
03:46:28,540 --> 03:46:33,260
engineer, originally specified a 12-week period, the manufacturer of the components

2982
03:46:33,260 --> 03:46:37,060
that they're installing, recommends doing it for 16 weeks.

2983
03:46:37,480 --> 03:46:44,600
That's what the extra cost is, plus they have to put in the 20,000 gallon frack tank to

2984
03:46:44,600 --> 03:46:48,920
collect the water that comes out of it because there's no sewer up there, and we can't

2985
03:46:48,920 --> 03:46:58,400
charge onto the you know well. So it has to be carted away and that's cost. So there's some

2986
03:46:58,400 --> 03:47:01,940
additional things and they are worked out with them to kind of reduce this a little bit.

2987
03:47:02,180 --> 03:47:07,680
So they're extra and it's not too exceed because it could very well be we don't end up you know

2988
03:47:07,680 --> 03:47:14,760
we might find other ways to maybe work something out with the hauling of the water back to the

2989
03:47:14,760 --> 03:47:16,580
because we're working out in a range from within

2990
03:47:16,580 --> 03:47:18,640
that they can discharge it at the wastewater plant

2991
03:47:18,640 --> 03:47:19,900
with such as the use savings.

2992
03:47:21,560 --> 03:47:26,080
And so we'll see, but the additional cost is 668 for everything.

2993
03:47:26,120 --> 03:47:30,220
That includes the samples, the renting, the tank, all the whole.

2994
03:47:30,520 --> 03:47:32,880
And the pumping back and forth.

2995
03:47:33,800 --> 03:47:34,780
66,000, 800?

2996
03:47:35,420 --> 03:47:38,380
That's the, their additional proposal, yeah.

2997
03:47:39,300 --> 03:47:41,860
And this is the same process you talked about before.

2998
03:47:42,280 --> 03:47:44,520
It's kind of got to do testing and all that.

2999
03:47:44,520 --> 03:47:49,540
that's what it is. Yeah, we have to monitor it for that period of time and we submitted

3000
03:47:49,540 --> 03:47:56,100
to the health department and say this is what the data showed us with this type of treatment

3001
03:47:57,440 --> 03:48:04,540
and then we go to design to put the ultimate treatment in to finalize the, you know, put a real

3002
03:48:04,540 --> 03:48:12,440
treatment system in after the fact. Given that you saved this $800,000, especially with a grant,

3003
03:48:12,440 --> 03:48:17,460
I'm certainly a favor if you're suggesting that he is not in this district though.

3004
03:48:17,480 --> 03:48:19,640
I have a chance to come back to you.

3005
03:48:20,280 --> 03:48:22,900
So there's a motion to consider the approval of the amendment.

3006
03:48:23,320 --> 03:48:23,500
I'll make it.

3007
03:48:23,560 --> 03:48:24,820
I'll make the motion.

3008
03:48:25,100 --> 03:48:25,580
I'll second.

3009
03:48:25,800 --> 03:48:26,220
All in favor.

3010
03:48:26,980 --> 03:48:27,060
Great.

3011
03:48:27,060 --> 03:48:27,420
Thank you.

3012
03:48:27,500 --> 03:48:29,300
Let's jump back to see.

3013
03:48:29,540 --> 03:48:31,120
We have several people in the audience here for that.

3014
03:48:31,160 --> 03:48:34,700
Consider what are the bid to Santa Pro disposal services to collect in the

3015
03:48:34,700 --> 03:48:39,800
Spose of Refuse from January 1st of the coming year through the sort of

3016
03:48:39,800 --> 03:48:41,440
December 31st, 29th.

3017
03:48:41,440 --> 03:48:43,580
I know what the rise of the supervisor to sign.

3018
03:48:43,780 --> 03:48:49,800
We have the proposal, we have the escalators in it, we pause at the last meeting because

3019
03:48:49,800 --> 03:48:54,240
there was discussion around how to collect recyclables, anybody want to provide input or

3020
03:48:54,240 --> 03:48:55,000
comment on that.

3021
03:48:55,080 --> 03:48:58,040
We also have the contractor here as well.

3022
03:48:58,820 --> 03:48:59,480
I want to say a few things.

3023
03:49:00,240 --> 03:49:03,920
So I always curious, not that this is the only factor we should be taking to account, but

3024
03:49:03,920 --> 03:49:08,420
I was curious to hear what residents thought about this, which is kind of where we left

3025
03:49:08,420 --> 03:49:09,300
at last time.

3026
03:49:09,300 --> 03:49:22,040
So I sent around in my last town video a survey, 300 and 30 people I think responded and the responses were just everybody has the information.

3027
03:49:22,500 --> 03:49:27,220
The responses were roughly 40% of people that wanted it to stay the way it is.

3028
03:49:27,460 --> 03:49:37,000
50% of people that wanted once a week pick up, but recycling car were plastic every week.

3029
03:49:37,000 --> 03:49:43,760
So that was the option that was roughly $80,000 more, and roughly 10% of people wanted twice a week pick-up.

3030
03:49:43,760 --> 03:49:45,520
Can you just say the breakdown again?

3031
03:49:45,820 --> 03:49:47,740
40% wanted it the way it was.

3032
03:49:48,520 --> 03:49:53,060
50% wanted once a week pick-up, but you could recycle everything.

3033
03:49:53,660 --> 03:49:55,560
So you're not the store two weeks of stuff.

3034
03:49:56,240 --> 03:49:59,060
And 10% of people wanted twice a week pick-up.

3035
03:49:59,120 --> 03:49:59,980
And just this is more...

3036
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:10,820
Also just for the town's knowledge that are listening, the way you pose the question. If I understood correctly, you pose it with also sharing the costs.

3037
03:50:11,440 --> 03:50:22,780
So when people responded to that, they weren't purely responding to what they want absent of the costs. They also were responding to it, given what the additional costs would be. Is that correct?

3038
03:50:22,780 --> 03:50:27,500
Yeah, I want 100% but I also think there's other things, I got, you know, I have a view

3039
03:50:27,500 --> 03:50:31,180
but I also think there are other things we should take into account too, like, you know,

3040
03:50:31,240 --> 03:50:36,940
there is the point about contamination of having, but I also think there's greater adoption

3041
03:50:36,940 --> 03:50:41,880
of recycling too, and this is also, you know, not just the recycling decision, it's also

3042
03:50:41,880 --> 03:50:44,840
a service decision, the kind of service we want to provide residents.

3043
03:50:45,300 --> 03:50:49,200
So I think there's a lot of factors to consider by one, everybody to have the same information I did

3044
03:50:49,200 --> 03:50:52,200
on what people said.

3045
03:50:52,760 --> 03:50:56,080
Also, the second question I asked was how strongly people felt about this.

3046
03:50:57,600 --> 03:51:01,460
And most people were either very strongly or strongly.

3047
03:51:01,860 --> 03:51:03,420
Very few people were actually neutral.

3048
03:51:04,560 --> 03:51:06,520
So this is actually something people do care about.

3049
03:51:06,740 --> 03:51:09,720
If you scored it because I did this because I'm a nerd.

3050
03:51:10,760 --> 03:51:16,400
As a one-scorer, if you felt neutral, a two-scorer, if you felt strongly, a three-scorer, if you felt very strongly.

3051
03:51:16,400 --> 03:51:22,700
It was at 2.57 average, so people on average felt very strongly, and there was really no difference between the three options,

3052
03:51:22,920 --> 03:51:28,640
as to whether or not people felt very strongly or not, if you, you know, this scores were about the same, the strength score.

3053
03:51:30,240 --> 03:51:33,280
And there's a self-selection in there of people that did the survey.

3054
03:51:36,630 --> 03:51:36,730
Yeah.

3055
03:51:39,550 --> 03:51:39,710
You know.

3056
03:51:39,710 --> 03:51:40,750
You don't want to pick one.

3057
03:51:45,620 --> 03:51:46,680
That was so important.

3058
03:51:50,000 --> 03:51:50,440
All right.

3059
03:51:50,560 --> 03:51:51,040
Head of B.

3060
03:51:51,540 --> 03:51:52,660
What the wrong way on this side.

3061
03:51:53,900 --> 03:51:57,840
I am Neil Singer, the co-chair of the Sustainability Committee.

3062
03:51:58,680 --> 03:52:05,140
Before I get to what we wrote up something that to read from the committee based on this,

3063
03:52:05,580 --> 03:52:07,640
I do have one issue about this survey though.

3064
03:52:07,860 --> 03:52:12,260
The problem is the survey didn't say that there would be contamination if you did it all

3065
03:52:12,260 --> 03:52:12,840
in the same day.

3066
03:52:13,040 --> 03:52:18,020
Like people assumed I think, because I spoke to some people, that it's the same dual-stream

3067
03:52:18,700 --> 03:52:20,960
pickup, but it's just going to happen every week.

3068
03:52:21,480 --> 03:52:26,760
And therefore, then the cost is only the transportation, but I checked with suburban

3069
03:52:26,760 --> 03:52:28,140
carating and they can't do that.

3070
03:52:28,380 --> 03:52:31,740
Trucks can't physically do it, so they have to contaminate the stream.

3071
03:52:32,940 --> 03:52:37,500
So I think it would be great to do another survey where we actually indicate sort of the

3072
03:52:37,500 --> 03:52:39,000
pluses and minuses and go out.

3073
03:52:39,200 --> 03:52:41,280
I mean, I think it's a great idea to do a survey though.

3074
03:52:42,180 --> 03:52:47,060
That's my personal view from the committee implementing single stream recycling, which is

3075
03:52:47,060 --> 03:52:49,100
what would happen if we did it once a week.

3076
03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:51,480
would be a step backwards for the community.

3077
03:52:52,300 --> 03:52:54,000
There's always a sizable proportion of residents

3078
03:52:54,000 --> 03:52:56,340
that attack alternate week recycling

3079
03:52:56,340 --> 03:52:58,420
because they feel burdened by their trash.

3080
03:52:58,860 --> 03:53:00,400
However, the solution isn't changing trash.

3081
03:53:00,640 --> 03:53:02,600
Pick up the solution is learning how to recycle right.

3082
03:53:03,580 --> 03:53:06,040
The North Castle sustainability committee is prepared

3083
03:53:06,040 --> 03:53:09,520
to pioneer how to recycle right educational campaign

3084
03:53:09,520 --> 03:53:12,480
to teach residents how to properly sort the trash.

3085
03:53:13,420 --> 03:53:14,680
For the purpose of this meeting,

3086
03:53:14,860 --> 03:53:16,840
we need to recognize that the two largest negatives

3087
03:53:16,840 --> 03:53:20,860
is the single stream recycling is reduction of quality and increased cost.

3088
03:53:21,800 --> 03:53:25,380
When recyclables get contaminated by trash, they become trash.

3089
03:53:26,740 --> 03:53:29,940
Creating hierarchies for its disposal, the experience of suburban

3090
03:53:29,940 --> 03:53:33,560
carting is that 30% of recycling becomes trash due to single stream

3091
03:53:33,560 --> 03:53:34,080
contamination.

3092
03:53:34,400 --> 03:53:38,980
So instead of going forward and recycling more, we actually create more trash.

3093
03:53:39,820 --> 03:53:42,880
It takes more energy to sort out a single stream trash.

3094
03:53:42,880 --> 03:53:51,040
In fact, suburban cells are only one carrier to that actually we'll do it in that can actually do the single stream.

3095
03:53:53,540 --> 03:53:57,900
So, results in more fees on the processing also more plastic bags, right in their ways into the sorting lines.

3096
03:53:58,660 --> 03:54:06,100
So, altering weak recycling is statistically proven to have two crucial benefits. First, it's incentive to reduce your consumption of recyclables.

3097
03:54:06,100 --> 03:54:11,280
most. Alternate week recycling creates a clear link between consumption habits and waste disposal.

3098
03:54:11,820 --> 03:54:15,320
The same way you don't want to see your cases of empty water bottles in the garage for 14 days

3099
03:54:15,320 --> 03:54:20,720
there's very little demand for anyone else to want it either. Second, cost savings. According

3100
03:54:20,720 --> 03:54:26,480
to the EPA reduction, reducing the frequency of recycling collection can result in cost savings

3101
03:54:26,480 --> 03:54:34,100
from municipalities as we've seen in our own community. In our case it's an $86,000 a year

3102
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:39,920
and growing amount that we save by not doing single strain.

3103
03:54:40,600 --> 03:54:42,540
So this Northcastle Standard Bill of Communities is not

3104
03:54:42,540 --> 03:54:46,240
believe it's a good use of town funds to address resident complaints

3105
03:54:46,240 --> 03:54:48,620
about having a large horde of cardboard boxes.

3106
03:54:48,620 --> 03:54:51,960
We need to educate people that the proper way to recycle boxes to remove

3107
03:54:51,960 --> 03:54:56,680
all the plastic tape, fold them into sheets and the bulk goes away as you

3108
03:54:57,760 --> 03:54:59,980
to address complaints about.

3109
03:55:00,080 --> 03:55:12,780
Recycling bins in smell, we need to educate people that recycles need to be rinsed well and should not smell. For example, the plastic peanut butter container is, you know, a soil, it's become trash.

3110
03:55:14,460 --> 03:55:24,040
Anyway, the town has come far of last decade by implementing alternate, we're cycling. This year, we've grown further by initiating food scrap recycling program at Limbardi Park.

3111
03:55:24,040 --> 03:55:28,380
thanks to this board. We put that in place. That's going to about to launch in January.

3112
03:55:29,480 --> 03:55:34,200
And that's going to further reduce the trash. And so we're really trying to get this

3113
03:55:34,200 --> 03:55:41,480
town to think about ways to reduce their, you know, the amount of their recycling that

3114
03:55:41,480 --> 03:55:45,800
they're, that they buy that needs to be recycled. I think conclusion, the state of

3115
03:55:45,800 --> 03:55:49,000
the community asked the board to recognize that the solution is not to spend more money

3116
03:55:49,000 --> 03:55:53,360
hauling trash away. Solution is to educate residents and recycle rights so you pay less

3117
03:55:53,360 --> 03:55:56,400
in tap rooms for a trash or mobile.

3118
03:55:57,320 --> 03:56:00,220
That was from the the entire state of Billy board.

3119
03:56:00,240 --> 03:56:01,360
I appreciate that.

3120
03:56:02,260 --> 03:56:02,980
Thank you.

3121
03:56:03,000 --> 03:56:07,900
And just comment, it's like really valuable input, thank you.

3122
03:56:08,440 --> 03:56:10,380
And can you remind me if you have it on top of your head

3123
03:56:10,380 --> 03:56:14,500
like how much the budget was for the state of Billy community

3124
03:56:14,500 --> 03:56:17,860
to run the food scraps for $10,000.

3125
03:56:17,980 --> 03:56:18,600
$10,000.

3126
03:56:18,920 --> 03:56:21,520
So it's interesting to me because the difference

3127
03:56:21,520 --> 03:56:29,040
and costs here of 86,000 for going to single stream, that money, if one were to use that.

3128
03:56:29,060 --> 03:56:35,940
Let's say, just as an example, to instead educate the public on how to reduce waste, I expect

3129
03:56:35,940 --> 03:56:38,400
that would have much greater impact as well.

3130
03:56:38,580 --> 03:56:39,040
I think you're right.

3131
03:56:39,040 --> 03:56:41,280
I think it was $786,000 budget there.

3132
03:56:42,040 --> 03:56:42,940
Is that your idea?

3133
03:56:42,940 --> 03:56:43,180
Yes.

3134
03:56:44,720 --> 03:56:50,940
I just think that's an interesting way to think about it, is like how, what are the best ways

3135
03:56:50,940 --> 03:56:54,980
to help our town move forward and doing this better.

3136
03:56:54,980 --> 03:56:58,500
And just for background, the sustainability committee is very new.

3137
03:56:58,740 --> 03:57:01,000
We've only been around for this year.

3138
03:57:01,500 --> 03:57:05,280
Sort of the recycling and a townwide sustainability committee

3139
03:57:05,280 --> 03:57:07,160
sort of went to funk during COVID.

3140
03:57:07,940 --> 03:57:10,840
And so we started up, you know, this board started up again.

3141
03:57:11,940 --> 03:57:13,900
And I, well, maybe we'll just take it off.

3142
03:57:14,100 --> 03:57:15,780
Right, I made the mistake of a green and be chair.

3143
03:57:19,660 --> 03:57:24,940
No, anyway, but in seriousness though, but it's so it's new and we're really trying to figure

3144
03:57:25,460 --> 03:57:26,700
out how to do this.

3145
03:57:26,760 --> 03:57:27,620
So I've got a lot of interest.

3146
03:57:27,800 --> 03:57:31,240
We've got a lot of excitement on the committee and it's unbelievable what the people

3147
03:57:31,240 --> 03:57:36,940
are really engaged and so I think, you know, education is a big part of it and if you guys

3148
03:57:36,940 --> 03:57:39,900
have ideas and anybody else, it would really help.

3149
03:57:39,900 --> 03:57:48,160
the kind of the sneaky thing that I was getting out here was I do think that we can do a lot more

3150
03:57:48,160 --> 03:57:54,120
like with the food scraps program the current plan is to do one pick up on the in the armonke

3151
03:57:54,120 --> 03:58:02,120
hamlet and I do think we can go faster and allow for more pick up locations in Northway Plains

3152
03:58:02,120 --> 03:58:09,760
as well. So I'd love to put more effort into doing more in that space like just more of what you're

3153
03:58:09,760 --> 03:58:11,800
And it started, what we'll do is we'll learn from it.

3154
03:58:11,860 --> 03:58:15,580
And Barbara was a big push for North White Plains as well.

3155
03:58:16,960 --> 03:58:20,620
And we spoke with Kevin about places to do it in North White Plains.

3156
03:58:21,040 --> 03:58:23,480
I think once we get a little experience under belt with one location,

3157
03:58:23,700 --> 03:58:25,640
we can quickly branch it out.

3158
03:58:26,580 --> 03:58:28,380
But we just want to sort of get things launched.

3159
03:58:28,500 --> 03:58:30,200
And a lot of it's going to be education from there.

3160
03:58:30,240 --> 03:58:32,760
And teaching people how you're supposed to do it.

3161
03:58:33,300 --> 03:58:36,080
What are the mechanics of it?

3162
03:58:36,080 --> 03:58:44,340
You know, quick question, you mentioned 30% becomes trash with single stream. Is that 30% more than with dual stream or is it?

3163
03:58:44,480 --> 03:58:48,300
Well, another, yeah, then with dual stream. So comparing dual stream to single stream.

3164
03:58:48,340 --> 03:58:52,460
What happens is all that stuff gets put into this, gets merged together.

3165
03:58:52,920 --> 03:59:00,100
Yeah. So that time it gets to the, to the facility, a lot of the cardboard is gotten contaminated or other, you know, the contamination is

3166
03:59:00,920 --> 03:59:03,660
spread and then that reduces the quality of it.

3167
03:59:03,820 --> 03:59:08,560
No, I got that thing I was really kind of just figure out, is it, is it 30% versus 0 for

3168
03:59:08,560 --> 03:59:13,940
dual stream, or is it 30% for a single stream, and some other percent for a post stream?

3169
03:59:14,100 --> 03:59:18,540
My numbers come from suburban carding, I can let it get 30% more of the difference.

3170
03:59:18,860 --> 03:59:21,120
I think it's comparing the two, that 30%.

3171
03:59:21,120 --> 03:59:24,820
Sorry, I'm Diane from suburban carding, sorry, I'm the my voice,

3172
03:59:26,940 --> 03:59:27,920
what is your question

3173
03:59:27,920 --> 03:59:28,440
I can answer?

3174
03:59:28,440 --> 03:59:41,600
Yeah, so the question was, if we did single stream versus dual stream, Neil Lachin, 30% of the recyclables become contaminated with single stream, and I was curious if there's a comparable percentage for dual stream.

3175
03:59:42,720 --> 03:59:53,900
Well, dual stream is two streams. Single stream is combined. So when you're combining paper and cardboard and plastic bottles and cans and the residue from it all, it contaminates it.

3176
03:59:53,900 --> 03:59:59,900
So you're actually paying more money for single streams than you're paying for trash so you have recyclers sending

3177
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:05,260
Now recycling, separating it, doing the right thing, taking it away from the trash, and then

3178
04:00:05,260 --> 04:00:10,620
it's interpaying more money for recycling, like that part of single-streaming makes no sense.

3179
04:00:11,960 --> 04:00:17,520
The 30% comes in because that's what happens. It gets contaminated. So we have to bring

3180
04:00:17,520 --> 04:00:23,800
it to a transportation and kinetic care. Where they charge us for single-stream knowing it's contaminated.

3181
04:00:23,800 --> 04:00:30,020
And that facility at the end of the day, 30% of what they take in is garbage.

3182
04:00:30,680 --> 04:00:35,180
So their number is counting, they're getting garbage from a single stream.

3183
04:00:35,480 --> 04:00:40,920
I think Matt was asking is, if in dual stream, what does that mean to stand up so they can

3184
04:00:40,920 --> 04:00:41,480
start with home?

3185
04:00:41,700 --> 04:00:47,880
Yeah, so I think the question was, is, yeah, was it dual stream, what percentage is garbage

3186
04:00:47,880 --> 04:00:50,580
when it goes dual stream, you know, is it a fair comparison?

3187
04:00:50,580 --> 04:00:54,320
I think that's what it was exactly.

3188
04:00:54,660 --> 04:00:55,140
Thank you.

3189
04:00:55,360 --> 04:01:00,780
Well, I mean, we pick it up by how the President is putting it out.

3190
04:01:01,040 --> 04:01:02,280
So you dictate to us.

3191
04:01:02,600 --> 04:01:05,740
Right now it's plastic-bossing cans when we cardboard another week.

3192
04:01:06,140 --> 04:01:09,340
So if you put the wrong material out or you combine it,

3193
04:01:09,380 --> 04:01:09,860
we leave it.

3194
04:01:09,900 --> 04:01:10,360
What it looks like.

3195
04:01:10,580 --> 04:01:11,880
We don't want to take it.

3196
04:01:12,220 --> 04:01:14,540
So I guess I don't understand your question.

3197
04:01:15,680 --> 04:01:19,000
There is the contamination is the President who's not putting

3198
04:01:19,000 --> 04:01:23,620
recyclables in their garbage, you know, that is putting the recyclables right now in the garbage.

3199
04:01:24,040 --> 04:01:29,900
There's like no contamination with the way that we do it now because we own American paper

3200
04:01:29,900 --> 04:01:37,520
mill supplies. So we are bringing your recycling to our facility where we can dissect the pot that

3201
04:01:37,520 --> 04:01:42,560
that wasn't supposed to be in there or the pair of sneakers or electronic item. And then it was

3202
04:01:42,560 --> 04:01:47,960
on a bigger trailer to win ways. So we wouldn't be able to do that if you chose single stream

3203
04:01:47,960 --> 04:01:55,700
Because we don't accept single stream, we just clean our loads because we're primarily a paper and cardboard company.

3204
04:01:56,360 --> 04:02:00,180
Well, got it. So I think basically you're saying, I think if I'm understanding the answer is zero.

3205
04:02:00,780 --> 04:02:01,340
Right.

3206
04:02:01,520 --> 04:02:02,680
That was my understanding.

3207
04:02:02,940 --> 04:02:03,160
Right.

3208
04:02:03,540 --> 04:02:10,220
Are you saying that when we do dual stream, then you got zero garbage?

3209
04:02:10,920 --> 04:02:18,760
I'm not saying zero garbage, and we did do a actual report when we owned a transportation

3210
04:02:18,760 --> 04:02:19,320
of America.

3211
04:02:19,520 --> 04:02:23,560
And that was probably like 10 or 12 years ago where we sat there and dissected everything

3212
04:02:23,560 --> 04:02:23,840
out.

3213
04:02:23,900 --> 04:02:26,080
So I do have percentage of that.

3214
04:02:26,420 --> 04:02:29,080
So we've already been through this over the years.

3215
04:02:29,200 --> 04:02:34,340
I mean, I've been working with Spurping Learning 23 years, I've been the account rep and a recycling

3216
04:02:34,340 --> 04:02:37,540
coordinator for a ton of Northcastle for that entire length of time.

3217
04:02:37,540 --> 04:02:44,100
We had alternate week recycling here for the last five years now five years prior to that

3218
04:02:44,100 --> 04:02:50,360
And that bid we had single stream and five years prior to that we had alternate week and when you do the alternate week

3219
04:02:50,360 --> 04:02:58,080
You're proven recycling numbers go up wishes for county sends the reports out and Northcastle has been in the top three

3220
04:02:58,080 --> 04:03:02,960
To I would say five at the least, but the highest recycling numbers

3221
04:03:02,960 --> 04:03:08,880
So if I'm just just to summarize like, so you don't know what the percentages of the garbage

3222
04:03:08,880 --> 04:03:13,400
in dual stream, but what you do know for sure is that there's just much more garbage

3223
04:03:13,400 --> 04:03:14,440
in single stream.

3224
04:03:14,940 --> 04:03:15,220
Yeah.

3225
04:03:15,320 --> 04:03:16,180
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

3226
04:03:16,400 --> 04:03:17,380
Everything gets contaminated.

3227
04:03:17,640 --> 04:03:18,460
Glass breaks.

3228
04:03:19,040 --> 04:03:21,340
So the residue is left in the jars.

3229
04:03:22,240 --> 04:03:30,200
It's no way to, you know, and for it to have a resident, the generator, recycle it and not

3230
04:03:30,200 --> 04:03:35,420
in the garbage, and then know that this recycling is getting contaminated and then to pay

3231
04:03:35,420 --> 04:03:41,940
more for recycling single stream than to trash rate. I will be literally pay more for

3232
04:03:41,940 --> 04:03:46,920
single stream recycling than garbage per pound per pound per pound per pound per pound per pound.

3233
04:03:49,710 --> 04:03:58,730
That's embedded in the $80,000 or your difference. Oh yeah, absolutely. And your survey actually

3234
04:03:58,730 --> 04:04:04,250
asked the question about single pickup for recycling, but didn't use the words to the

3235
04:04:04,250 --> 04:04:10,110
resident that it would be picked up single stream. Because I assure you nobody would

3236
04:04:10,110 --> 04:04:15,910
would vote on that. There's no other town in Wisconsin's county that picks up single stream

3237
04:04:15,910 --> 04:04:21,690
like that. You may have some small towns like Louisboro or something where they have a smaller

3238
04:04:21,690 --> 04:04:27,910
carding company and many trucks running through the town, but it couldn't be, I would

3239
04:04:27,910 --> 04:04:32,750
challenge you to find another town that actually picks up the stream. The county has

3240
04:04:32,750 --> 04:04:38,550
a 40 municipalities that does a seven that are not in the IMA. The 40 municipalities do not pick

3241
04:04:38,550 --> 04:04:44,210
up the single stream. It's not a single stream facility for the county at all. And then

3242
04:04:44,210 --> 04:04:49,190
actually, I'm sorry, I'm not saying my voice. The answer to your question about the food

3243
04:04:49,190 --> 04:04:57,550
on post, I started a different campus for OSS for county way back 15 years ago, and I was

3244
04:04:57,550 --> 04:04:59,970
doing the county contracts, and I know for-

3245
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:06,760
The North White Plains Residence will use to count the get-new way, recycling facility for food

3246
04:05:06,760 --> 04:05:12,920
compost. And I know the bedford part of North Castle will use the bedford recycling centers.

3247
04:05:13,140 --> 04:05:20,020
So a lot of people have already been bringing their food scraps to those recycling facilities.

3248
04:05:20,100 --> 04:05:28,000
And I picked them up, so I know which compost. So the bedford hills? Yeah, the North White Plains

3249
04:05:28,000 --> 04:05:31,000
get me away, pick, pick, pick, white plan.

3250
04:05:31,040 --> 04:05:33,020
They call it, okay, you call it white plan.

3251
04:05:33,360 --> 04:05:35,880
It's labeled as get me away on their account.

3252
04:05:36,080 --> 04:05:39,100
I see, yeah, you're thinking about just the white plan's

3253
04:05:39,100 --> 04:05:39,160
residents.

3254
04:05:39,880 --> 04:05:41,440
I think for North, the North white plan's.

3255
04:05:41,440 --> 04:05:42,860
My brother lives in North white plans.

3256
04:05:43,040 --> 04:05:44,700
It's why you know, he utilizes the C.

3257
04:05:44,840 --> 04:05:46,340
He utilizes which service?

3258
04:05:46,520 --> 04:05:47,580
D, to get me away.

3259
04:05:47,600 --> 04:05:50,020
OK, I actually don't know if people in North white plans

3260
04:05:50,020 --> 04:05:51,340
have been using that.

3261
04:05:52,080 --> 04:05:55,520
And if that information, we haven't ever put on our website.

3262
04:05:56,040 --> 04:05:57,880
I didn't know that we were, we were a lot to.

3263
04:05:57,880 --> 04:05:59,440
to use it on our waypoint.

3264
04:05:59,540 --> 04:06:01,080
Can you share that, of course.

3265
04:06:01,720 --> 04:06:04,500
And maybe any comments from the state of the community

3266
04:06:04,500 --> 04:06:07,420
on whether that's something that we can put our full force

3267
04:06:07,420 --> 04:06:08,800
behind to have me that way.

3268
04:06:08,800 --> 04:06:10,380
Right now, many, I mean, here.

3269
04:06:10,840 --> 04:06:13,320
Right now, many of the members of the state of the community

3270
04:06:13,320 --> 04:06:16,420
who already do this go up to bed for it.

3271
04:06:16,500 --> 04:06:18,460
And they do their drop off because they take it.

3272
04:06:19,920 --> 04:06:21,820
But as we haven't put it in place yet.

3273
04:06:21,820 --> 04:06:23,280
So I know a lot of people in town already

3274
04:06:23,280 --> 04:06:24,040
go in bed for it.

3275
04:06:24,040 --> 04:06:25,880
I was not aware of getting me.

3276
04:06:25,940 --> 04:06:26,680
Yeah, that's interesting.

3277
04:06:26,680 --> 04:06:33,220
because I think until the North White Plains pick up site is set up that I do wonder what

3278
04:06:33,220 --> 04:06:38,640
is closer to North White Plains residents, the one that you mentioned in White Plains or

3279
04:06:38,640 --> 04:06:46,140
the one that's in Lombardy, which one is closer, I wonder. So I think it would be nice to

3280
04:06:46,140 --> 04:06:49,640
offer both options. This is great, is just right. Yeah, absolutely.

3281
04:06:50,380 --> 04:07:05,220
So I think it would be great to provide both resources to people through the website and communicate that clearly in the North Life Things community meeting and get folks to start adopting that service.

3282
04:07:05,220 --> 04:07:08,220
That might open up his backyard compost for us.

3283
04:07:09,700 --> 04:07:10,860
I got two.

3284
04:07:11,160 --> 04:07:12,520
I got two.

3285
04:07:12,520 --> 04:07:14,600
We can give you four of that, so anyway.

3286
04:07:15,020 --> 04:07:15,380
Sorry.

3287
04:07:16,060 --> 04:07:17,960
What you're saying is pretty persuasive,

3288
04:07:17,960 --> 04:07:20,180
and I appreciate the color and feedback.

3289
04:07:20,340 --> 04:07:22,220
The one part I'm not wrapping my head around those,

3290
04:07:22,960 --> 04:07:25,260
is to give you the example of like the peanut butter jar.

3291
04:07:25,640 --> 04:07:26,860
Wouldn't that be contaminated,

3292
04:07:27,100 --> 04:07:28,760
whether we had a single scream or a dual scream,

3293
04:07:28,760 --> 04:07:30,840
but people aren't cleaning out the,

3294
04:07:30,840 --> 04:07:32,040
or am I not understanding that?

3295
04:07:32,060 --> 04:07:34,700
Well, there's just a allowable point.

3296
04:07:34,700 --> 04:07:38,740
0,5% contamination with recyclables.

3297
04:07:38,860 --> 04:07:46,140
I mean, China was more aggressive than me bringing a quantity to win-waste in Connecticut.

3298
04:07:46,800 --> 04:07:52,800
They already prepare for that contamination, but it's not just about that peanut butter or that mayonnaise you can't get out.

3299
04:07:53,000 --> 04:07:57,000
It's about much more. It's about the glass breaking. It's about the plastic water.

3300
04:07:57,140 --> 04:08:01,840
A bottle of water or juice contaminating the paper and the cardboard.

3301
04:08:01,840 --> 04:08:08,000
it because it's I'm paying for it where I right right right there isn't the answer also on that

3302
04:08:08,000 --> 04:08:15,300
the bottles the cans and the plastic don't get recycle for value correct you have to pay to do

3303
04:08:15,300 --> 04:08:20,340
correct yes the problem is the only thing that they get value for is the mix paper and if you're putting

3304
04:08:20,340 --> 04:08:24,920
that single stream the other things that are contaminated go ahead and get a dirty for the reason

3305
04:08:24,920 --> 04:08:29,500
she's saying is a little bit of soda there's you know crap in the bottle the bottle's break also

3306
04:08:29,500 --> 04:08:36,520
stuff comes out. So the impact is making the mixed paper not have value. Right, no that makes sense

3307
04:08:36,520 --> 04:08:41,140
but that's more of like a value question that's embedded in the $80,000 as opposed to, like,

3308
04:08:41,340 --> 04:08:44,740
contamination where we're doing something materially more harmful to the environment.

3309
04:08:44,800 --> 04:08:48,800
Like contamination, yeah, she's referring, well, it means recycling contamination,

3310
04:08:49,180 --> 04:08:55,480
which she means it is making contaminating the mixed paper. Yeah. So we can't use that mixed paper,

3311
04:08:55,480 --> 04:08:58,780
They can't be poked, they have to discard it and they can't run it.

3312
04:08:58,780 --> 04:09:01,760
And they don't charge us out of that because they get money for it.

3313
04:09:02,080 --> 04:09:04,320
And we only do this once every five years.

3314
04:09:04,660 --> 04:09:05,980
This decision for it.

3315
04:09:06,400 --> 04:09:08,260
Well, the contract, this contract's five years.

3316
04:09:08,340 --> 04:09:10,000
So we can change and we update.

3317
04:09:11,200 --> 04:09:12,900
So let's say we make this decision today.

3318
04:09:12,960 --> 04:09:13,880
We can change it in a year.

3319
04:09:13,900 --> 04:09:16,960
We can change it at any point or how does that work?

3320
04:09:17,440 --> 04:09:20,280
Well, we don't want to open a contract with me.

3321
04:09:20,420 --> 04:09:25,340
We don't have to, in the conversation I had with Nick and you, they said we can change it

3322
04:09:25,340 --> 04:09:28,560
Once a year you can turn it on or off in terms of single-stream dual-stream.

3323
04:09:29,740 --> 04:09:30,080
What?

3324
04:09:30,320 --> 04:09:34,360
The season before us here is, you want to award the bid and we want to award a

3325
04:09:34,360 --> 04:09:35,980
with single-stream or dual-stream.

3326
04:09:36,080 --> 04:09:37,220
I'm in favor of dual-stream.

3327
04:09:37,480 --> 04:09:39,160
It's got a favor of single-stream.

3328
04:09:39,880 --> 04:09:43,220
For lots of different reasons, the contamination is one.

3329
04:09:43,480 --> 04:09:45,840
It's almost a half of a percent tax increase if we did that.

3330
04:09:45,860 --> 04:09:50,060
And I'm a big believer in helping, telling residents to help us help them.

3331
04:09:50,060 --> 04:09:53,740
So to me, it is beyond not even close to being a hardship

3332
04:09:53,740 --> 04:09:58,580
to separate recyclables and put them out every other week.

3333
04:09:59,340 --> 04:09:59,980
So we're-

3334
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:02,680
They're helping us help them, but keep their taxes lower.

3335
04:10:02,780 --> 04:10:03,140
Exactly.

3336
04:10:03,520 --> 04:10:09,400
To me, garbage pickup twice a week is when I was a kid along, I only had three times a week. It was foolish.

3337
04:10:10,640 --> 04:10:15,340
So once a week works, and we don't have eight kids in every family and average family

3338
04:10:15,340 --> 04:10:22,260
sizes, two kids. So this is a good contract. I think we should go with dual stream and you guys

3339
04:10:22,260 --> 04:10:26,460
knocked us around next year if you want to think you want to change it, but I think we should move on from this to make a decision.

3340
04:10:26,460 --> 04:10:30,340
I'm okay with going with signing the contract and going with dual stream.

3341
04:10:30,540 --> 04:10:32,580
I actually think what you said was pretty persuasive,

3342
04:10:32,940 --> 04:10:37,420
but I don't agree on exactly the kind of all of the logic.

3343
04:10:37,820 --> 04:10:40,860
I actually think there is a big convenience factor here

3344
04:10:41,540 --> 04:10:43,000
that people care about.

3345
04:10:43,220 --> 04:10:46,300
But I think your point about the 30% is a big problem.

3346
04:10:46,860 --> 04:10:49,580
I think the fact we can change our mind in a year,

3347
04:10:50,200 --> 04:10:51,440
I think we can revisit it.

3348
04:10:51,660 --> 04:10:52,700
I'm not.

3349
04:10:53,140 --> 04:10:54,120
That's what Nick said.

3350
04:10:54,120 --> 04:10:57,980
But we could also keep in mind, you know, this, I've said this

3351
04:10:57,980 --> 04:11:01,040
a different meetings because I did an experiment, let me just finish.

3352
04:11:01,900 --> 04:11:05,160
Is part of the idea here of composting is to reduce your garbage.

3353
04:11:05,160 --> 04:11:05,480
Right.

3354
04:11:05,920 --> 04:11:07,100
So we did it in our own house.

3355
04:11:07,180 --> 04:11:08,500
I had to train my kids to do it.

3356
04:11:08,600 --> 04:11:11,140
We reduced it more than 50% seriously.

3357
04:11:11,620 --> 04:11:15,600
So I put about 25 pounds of compost in the backyard every week.

3358
04:11:16,200 --> 04:11:19,580
So if we're going to encourage people to compost and reduce the

3359
04:11:19,580 --> 04:11:25,260
of garbage, you only need garbage pick up once a week, and if we're going to recycle more

3360
04:11:25,260 --> 04:11:28,980
intelligently and educate them, we're going to get more for that because we're going to be

3361
04:11:28,980 --> 04:11:35,120
able to reuse more of that material. So I don't want to make it easier for people to get

3362
04:11:35,120 --> 04:11:40,200
careless and lazy and contaminate and throw more garbage out. We want our encourage them to

3363
04:11:40,200 --> 04:11:48,120
reduce. Exactly. Can we just have it on the record? Can I ask Kevin to share your understanding

3364
04:11:48,120 --> 04:11:51,660
of whether we can make the change every year or not?

3365
04:11:52,200 --> 04:11:57,040
On the call, I had with Nikki said, on a yearly basis, he would be able to switch, but that's

3366
04:11:57,040 --> 04:12:00,480
the conversation at him and I had, I know you weren't able to be on, and I had to send

3367
04:12:00,480 --> 04:12:00,740
you.

3368
04:12:01,040 --> 04:12:02,100
No, I had to send compensation.

3369
04:12:02,780 --> 04:12:03,620
What's our plan today?

3370
04:12:04,780 --> 04:12:10,360
Well, what we will propose is that you start with the single stream and give this committee in

3371
04:12:10,360 --> 04:12:16,620
a co-chair, a staff committee, to start with the state with the alternate week, of course,

3372
04:12:16,620 --> 04:12:18,620
because my calendars are ready to go.

3373
04:12:20,760 --> 04:12:24,440
The residents are going to be upset that this calendar didn't get out this year.

3374
04:12:25,540 --> 04:12:30,920
But what we would propose is, give it a year to research it, because you have to take

3375
04:12:30,920 --> 04:12:36,160
that time to research it and see what is going on in the county so that we can stand everything

3376
04:12:36,160 --> 04:12:39,500
with a rush this year because of elections and everything else.

3377
04:12:40,060 --> 04:12:44,320
So you need to tie, you need to give a committee, which I would be on the coach here right

3378
04:12:44,320 --> 04:12:51,820
liaison. So we would take a year to go through all the numbers and give you accurate information

3379
04:12:51,820 --> 04:12:58,500
about single-stream. And do all the like work for you, show you every year what years you

3380
04:12:58,500 --> 04:13:05,600
stop being number, you know, in the top three in which it's the county. And you know, we've got

3381
04:13:05,600 --> 04:13:11,480
a lot of price increases on the table this year for January for single-stream. So I can't

3382
04:13:11,480 --> 04:13:19,260
I can't get any better next year with it and you're changing your mind and wanting to go with that.

3383
04:13:21,180 --> 04:13:28,780
But I mean, I'm authorized to propose a year on the committee and let them choose and do other research.

3384
04:13:29,680 --> 04:13:30,000
I'm not.

3385
04:13:31,000 --> 04:13:31,340
Absolutely.

3386
04:13:31,880 --> 04:13:36,480
And if you're going to do a survey, I appreciate the work that I think that needs to be a group effort.

3387
04:13:36,740 --> 04:13:38,120
So the town board needs to be involved.

3388
04:13:38,120 --> 04:13:43,340
So then it was being sent out at least the sustainability companies to be involved and then get out of

3389
04:13:43,340 --> 04:13:48,520
a survey that everybody's on a greens greens on and then get that in feedback back.

3390
04:13:48,640 --> 04:13:49,700
That's the way how we do it.

3391
04:13:50,060 --> 04:13:51,400
So I actually agree.

3392
04:13:51,400 --> 04:13:55,240
I think it's better to do a survey like that, but we had to make a decision and nobody did it.

3393
04:13:55,440 --> 04:13:56,420
So I wanted information.

3394
04:13:57,820 --> 04:14:03,160
Ideally, if the trucks were different, we would have both picked up each week.

3395
04:14:03,300 --> 04:14:04,820
But I think the problem is the trucks case.

3396
04:14:06,360 --> 04:14:10,920
because keeping the stream separate, don't stream, but picked every week, and I think that just

3397
04:14:10,920 --> 04:14:11,600
was impossible.

3398
04:14:12,000 --> 04:14:12,300
Right.

3399
04:14:12,400 --> 04:14:14,200
And I just want to give you another number.

3400
04:14:14,660 --> 04:14:23,640
There's over 6,500 residential homes in Northcastle, and there's about 650 backdoor customers,

3401
04:14:23,960 --> 04:14:24,580
something like that.

3402
04:14:26,180 --> 04:14:29,440
So with the backdoor, we have to send a smaller truck there.

3403
04:14:29,440 --> 04:14:34,860
So we are actually grabbing when people leave it out because they're paying us on a separate contract.

3404
04:14:35,000 --> 04:14:37,540
We have to grab what they leave out for recycling.

3405
04:14:38,220 --> 04:14:41,600
So we will grab the plastic pausing cans and the cardboard.

3406
04:14:41,800 --> 04:14:46,280
Whatever they leave, we take because they're paying top dollar for us to take it.

3407
04:14:46,860 --> 04:14:52,140
So, you know, if somebody wants that option, they would just pay for backdoor.

3408
04:14:53,560 --> 04:14:54,540
And that is a single string.

3409
04:14:55,440 --> 04:14:57,760
It's, I don't like the word single string.

3410
04:14:58,240 --> 04:14:59,980
The fact is that it's out.

3411
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:05,580
What there is separately, but they put it out for us to pick up, and their contract with us for

3412
04:15:05,580 --> 04:15:12,380
back door is recycling and garbage picked up every week. You know, some of them two times a week.

3413
04:15:13,400 --> 04:15:17,600
That's what they pay for, that's what we have to give them. If they were to separate it and

3414
04:15:17,600 --> 04:15:23,520
just put one out, then my split pack of truck would just pick up that commodity, and they would

3415
04:15:23,520 --> 04:15:26,240
still only be alternate week. How many of them go, sorry?

3416
04:15:26,240 --> 04:15:36,300
And anybody who was paying for back door, if they wanted to recycle on alternate weeks and keep their stuff separate, then they would bring it to curbside.

3417
04:15:36,880 --> 04:15:39,100
But I know that's not ideal for some people.

3418
04:15:40,020 --> 04:15:44,660
I just wanted to ask you, by the way, it's really great that you're here.

3419
04:15:45,000 --> 04:15:52,240
I don't think in the four years we've had several different questions that I think would be nice in this forum.

3420
04:15:52,240 --> 04:16:00,620
But one thing I'm just wondering, as you say, that is how many people in the town subscribe to the back door service.

3421
04:16:00,820 --> 04:16:03,120
Like 6,550, 680s, raise something like that?

3422
04:16:03,160 --> 04:16:04,540
Out of roughly 4,000, you said?

3423
04:16:05,400 --> 04:16:09,960
6,000, 6,000, 800 residential dwellings.

3424
04:16:10,860 --> 04:16:13,040
Yeah, some 6,000, 893.

3425
04:16:13,520 --> 04:16:16,400
It was all 4,500, but maybe there's other things, factored incident.

3426
04:16:17,500 --> 04:16:24,340
And then one other question, which may seem off topic to some, but I think it's very much part of the

3427
04:16:24,340 --> 04:16:30,400
scene-building mission, is like, when is it that you, do you have a plan to transition off

3428
04:16:33,140 --> 04:16:34,100
gasoline powered?

3429
04:16:34,640 --> 04:16:35,440
Oh gosh.

3430
04:16:35,800 --> 04:16:37,340
I think natural gas trucks.

3431
04:16:37,620 --> 04:16:38,680
Do you have a transition plan?

3432
04:16:39,100 --> 04:16:44,860
We actually brought the trucks out here, and my came out, and we were at them in the back,

3433
04:16:44,860 --> 04:16:48,960
Um, highway department, gosh, I was a long time ago.

3434
04:16:49,240 --> 04:16:52,360
Um, but year is there a year that you plan to transition off?

3435
04:16:53,000 --> 04:16:56,760
Uh, no, no, but we're, well, we're open to explore anything.

3436
04:16:57,440 --> 04:16:57,920
Yeah, sure.

3437
04:16:58,220 --> 04:16:59,680
It's town had brought the trucks in.

3438
04:16:59,680 --> 04:17:03,940
Or we brought the trucks to the town and did some research.

3439
04:17:04,220 --> 04:17:06,360
Also on side loader trucks.

3440
04:17:06,700 --> 04:17:10,500
Because that's, you know, that's something when you're on flat grounds

3441
04:17:10,500 --> 04:17:12,360
and your terrain is okay that you could do it.

3442
04:17:12,360 --> 04:17:16,240
It wasn't workable for like towns like Northcastle or Newcastle.

3443
04:17:16,540 --> 04:17:16,560
OK.

3444
04:17:16,780 --> 04:17:19,220
Besides low trucks, you have to keep the total out straight.

3445
04:17:20,160 --> 04:17:25,980
And because I think one thing that is also a benefit of keeping the plan we have

3446
04:17:25,980 --> 04:17:29,200
is just thinking about the number of miles driven.

3447
04:17:30,320 --> 04:17:30,340
OK.

3448
04:17:30,340 --> 04:17:30,760
Oh, absolutely.

3449
04:17:31,860 --> 04:17:31,960
Yeah.

3450
04:17:32,440 --> 04:17:33,920
That's why you did the split trucks.

3451
04:17:34,180 --> 04:17:37,160
Save on all that pollution and fuel and everything.

3452
04:17:37,240 --> 04:17:37,860
That was the idea.

3453
04:17:38,500 --> 04:17:41,080
So with that, what I would suggest is it's midnight.

3454
04:17:41,980 --> 04:17:45,460
I appreciate a lot of people that don't come to these meetings all the time.

3455
04:17:45,540 --> 04:17:48,640
Imagine doing this 360 times over 16 years.

3456
04:17:49,000 --> 04:17:49,140
Wow.

3457
04:17:50,660 --> 04:17:55,220
But what's what's before is is to approve the bid and we had to make a decision on single

3458
04:17:55,220 --> 04:17:56,340
stream or dual stream.

3459
04:17:57,280 --> 04:18:01,280
So I'll make the motion to, I think, I've got one little fix also.

3460
04:18:01,760 --> 04:18:07,720
We spoke about today, sorry about this, but also Diana explained with Nick that basically

3461
04:18:07,720 --> 04:18:13,340
the charges is the same, whatever the amount of garbage, and they agreed that in terms

3462
04:18:13,340 --> 04:18:18,400
of composting that we do, that they pick up, that we will get credit for it, and I think

3463
04:18:18,400 --> 04:18:21,400
the wording was something like, and it can be done by a side letter or something,

3464
04:18:24,280 --> 04:18:24,600
the town

3465
04:18:24,600 --> 04:18:31,740
would receive a credit for food composting in an equitable manner by reference to the rate

3466
04:18:31,740 --> 04:18:33,600
pay for disposing garbage.

3467
04:18:33,600 --> 04:18:40,200
So, how should we do that? Rowan, legally? With this approval? How do we do that?

3468
04:18:40,560 --> 04:18:45,380
It's at the language, with a side letter or something. I think it would be best to decide letters

3469
04:18:45,380 --> 04:18:52,240
so that we, because it wasn't spacked. So, if the contractor is willing to give that credit,

3470
04:18:52,720 --> 04:18:55,600
you should send the town a letter to that effect. Okay.

3471
04:18:57,240 --> 04:19:05,280
So, we can make a motion to approve this with dual-stream and with the side letter from the

3472
04:19:05,280 --> 04:19:11,440
contractor back to the town, spelling out the credit for the composting, so I'll make that

3473
04:19:11,440 --> 04:19:11,880
motion.

3474
04:19:12,240 --> 04:19:12,740
A little second.

3475
04:19:14,200 --> 04:19:14,640
All of them?

3476
04:19:14,820 --> 04:19:15,160
All right.

3477
04:19:15,620 --> 04:19:16,900
Thank you.

3478
04:19:17,300 --> 04:19:17,600
Thanks.

3479
04:19:17,600 --> 04:19:17,920
Thank you, Danny.

3480
04:19:17,920 --> 04:19:18,180
Gotcha.

3481
04:19:18,320 --> 04:19:19,140
And right before midnight.

3482
04:19:19,440 --> 04:19:19,860
Thank you.

3483
04:19:20,760 --> 04:19:22,020
Well, Mike, now you have extra time.

3484
04:19:22,040 --> 04:19:22,840
You can be on your cycling.

3485
04:19:23,120 --> 04:19:23,380
Yes.

3486
04:19:25,500 --> 04:19:30,660
I just want to jump to the next thing, I just wanted to briefly, I know it's late, everybody wants to go.

3487
04:19:31,160 --> 04:19:37,240
But I just want to say thank you, and it's been a pleasure working over the years with you.

3488
04:19:37,320 --> 04:19:45,460
And I remember, you know, when you first got on the board starting out, you know, you got the real glamorous task of being on the sewer task force.

3489
04:19:45,880 --> 04:19:51,960
You know, and you learned all about VOD and flow weighted averages and RBCs and all that good stuff.

3490
04:19:51,960 --> 04:19:59,980
But what came out of that, we crafted a very economical way to get extra flow with the plant for the community and it was an advantage for me.

3491
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:07,540
We're doing it when there was an upgrade going out at the time. And we came up with a pretty good way

3492
04:20:08,200 --> 04:20:14,460
economically that the DEC accepted and granted us that extra 50,000 gallons a day, which made a big difference.

3493
04:20:15,180 --> 04:20:24,620
But thank you for all your work and all your confidence in me over the years. And just for being Mike, thank you.

3494
04:20:24,620 --> 04:20:26,320
Thank you so appreciate it.

3495
04:20:26,480 --> 04:20:27,580
Thank you.

3496
04:20:30,010 --> 04:20:33,230
So the next item is consider acceptance of renewal.

3497
04:20:33,390 --> 04:20:35,570
We not have anybody else here for a specific item, right?

3498
04:20:36,790 --> 04:20:39,990
So consider acceptance of renewal premium from Tokyo Marine and

3499
04:20:39,990 --> 04:20:42,190
conjunction with services provided by a forward and

3500
04:20:42,190 --> 04:20:45,290
son of corporation for property and casualty insurance policy

3501
04:20:45,290 --> 04:20:46,190
of 2024.

3502
04:20:46,770 --> 04:20:47,710
Everything looked in order.

3503
04:20:47,870 --> 04:20:48,350
They are right, Kevin?

3504
04:20:48,750 --> 04:20:48,770
Yes.

3505
04:20:49,010 --> 04:20:49,830
I'm asking questions.

3506
04:20:51,010 --> 04:20:51,930
I'll make the motion.

3507
04:20:52,350 --> 04:20:52,730
I'll second.

3508
04:20:53,030 --> 04:20:53,370
On favor.

3509
04:20:53,930 --> 04:20:56,730
I consider a problem of agreement with the

3510
04:20:56,730 --> 04:20:58,970
ARC, a west jester, for maintenance of Main Street,

3511
04:20:59,130 --> 04:21:01,630
on Mac for 2024, no authorization for the

3512
04:21:01,630 --> 04:21:02,770
supervisor to sign the agreement.

3513
04:21:02,830 --> 04:21:04,530
Everything looked in good order.

3514
04:21:04,610 --> 04:21:07,270
Look at there, we're given us more hours, perhaps in the past.

3515
04:21:08,210 --> 04:21:09,830
But, and they had also pulled back during COVID.

3516
04:21:10,650 --> 04:21:13,270
So, and it's a great course, so I'll make that motion.

3517
04:21:13,710 --> 04:21:14,610
That's I can on favor.

3518
04:21:14,890 --> 04:21:15,110
Hi.

3519
04:21:15,630 --> 04:21:15,910
Great.

3520
04:21:15,910 --> 04:21:16,490
Thank you.

3521
04:21:16,550 --> 04:21:17,430
Great cause.

3522
04:21:19,370 --> 04:21:20,830
I have consider a problem of agreement with

3523
04:21:20,830 --> 04:21:23,510
SPCA for 2024 and authorization for the

3524
04:21:23,510 --> 04:21:26,770
of us to assign the agreement. Any comments or questions?

3525
04:21:26,790 --> 04:21:29,270
Oh, they've got a beautiful new facility as well.

3526
04:21:29,490 --> 04:21:29,830
Oh, second.

3527
04:21:30,170 --> 04:21:30,630
All favor?

3528
04:21:30,890 --> 04:21:31,050
Hi.

3529
04:21:31,890 --> 04:21:36,670
G, consider the MOA, MOU with the county of Westchester for remote access to county records,

3530
04:21:37,190 --> 04:21:39,430
an authorization for the supervisor to assign the agreement.

3531
04:21:41,810 --> 04:21:43,370
Everything looks fine in the air to my journey

3532
04:21:43,370 --> 04:21:45,130
does a great job in the county, so.

3533
04:21:45,150 --> 04:21:46,050
I'll make that motion.

3534
04:21:46,330 --> 04:21:46,730
Oh, second.

3535
04:21:48,190 --> 04:21:48,530
All favor?

3536
04:21:48,610 --> 04:21:49,050
Hi.

3537
04:21:49,650 --> 04:21:51,630
H, consider approval of grant restoration.

3538
04:21:51,630 --> 04:21:56,150
Inc change order numbers one through four trust project at the Northcastle Public Library,

3539
04:21:56,470 --> 04:21:58,930
Armond Branch, comments or questions?

3540
04:21:59,270 --> 04:21:59,830
I do.

3541
04:22:00,490 --> 04:22:03,010
I was over there looking at it.

3542
04:22:03,450 --> 04:22:08,930
This, you know, a lot of people probably realize that not that everybody does this, but it can

3543
04:22:08,930 --> 04:22:12,990
be the bread and butter for contractors sometimes to get change orders.

3544
04:22:13,170 --> 04:22:16,450
I'm concerned that these costs are way too high.

3545
04:22:16,450 --> 04:22:23,950
They did have an extra proposal there that Katherine went ahead and decided they wouldn't do that.

3546
04:22:24,210 --> 04:22:26,630
It really was quite expensive, I thought.

3547
04:22:26,630 --> 04:22:29,530
Six hours of loss for painting, so good for her on that.

3548
04:22:31,110 --> 04:22:33,570
But it changed orders three and four.

3549
04:22:33,650 --> 04:22:36,690
I think we should investigate whether we can do better pricing on it.

3550
04:22:36,950 --> 04:22:39,030
I looked at the work that had to be done.

3551
04:22:39,950 --> 04:22:45,830
It involves pretty, you know, relative, it's always simple until you're doing it.

3552
04:22:45,830 --> 04:22:48,510
But it's relatively straight order,

3553
04:22:50,790 --> 04:22:55,290
a straight issue of enclosing the beams there, and the

3554
04:22:55,290 --> 04:23:01,890
trusses, and then she rocking them, and I think we should look at other alternatives.

3555
04:23:02,450 --> 04:23:03,530
I have a new week, Coma.

3556
04:23:06,090 --> 04:23:10,330
I was a recommendation from Karen Catherine, I'm sorry, I apologize.

3557
04:23:10,970 --> 04:23:16,590
at the library. I know we're looking to try to wrap this product. I'd like to

3558
04:23:17,690 --> 04:23:22,670
to. If you think the numbers are in line? You know again for taping and

3559
04:23:22,670 --> 04:23:28,070
cheap rocking, they do seem a little on high side and when speaking with

3560
04:23:28,070 --> 04:23:31,590
Katherine, we were willing to look to see if we could find a better quote. We shouldn't

3561
04:23:31,590 --> 04:23:35,130
slow us down too much as the holiday season is going to be here and we should

3562
04:23:35,130 --> 04:23:39,150
hopefully be able to have something for the next meeting in January to move forward.

3563
04:23:39,150 --> 04:23:44,430
I mean, as I've said here before, a lot of the drivers from municipal work are bonds, insurances,

3564
04:23:45,090 --> 04:23:51,430
and prevailing wages. So, outside we may not find something better. I can't speak, but will it

3565
04:23:51,430 --> 04:23:54,450
to explore? So, table one?

3566
04:23:54,730 --> 04:23:54,930
Great.

3567
04:23:55,090 --> 04:24:02,610
Wait, before we just do that, just wonder if we table it. Does it affect the libraries open now or

3568
04:24:02,610 --> 04:24:03,750
like when the library would reach?

3569
04:24:03,750 --> 04:24:04,530
So, what would happen?

3570
04:24:05,770 --> 04:24:13,990
I mean, grandma willing to work and do the work next week, obviously, you know, for us to go and get, we'd have to looking at the pyramid policy, probably get three quotes.

3571
04:24:14,850 --> 04:24:19,210
So it will slow it down somewhat because we won't be able to approve next till whatever the first meeting in January.

3572
04:24:19,350 --> 04:24:26,650
However, right now, they're closed off in the main room with the lighting desk, but it would be okay.

3573
04:24:26,850 --> 04:24:30,170
And I discuss this with Katherine to go ahead and take that away.

3574
04:24:30,170 --> 04:24:33,670
And then a painter's come in the work they're going to be doing is not going to be that extensive.

3575
04:24:34,370 --> 04:24:38,210
So they could then it's be closed now anyway to get it done for longer period of time.

3576
04:24:38,430 --> 04:24:43,450
We can open it up and then some out of a few days later on, where they might close a due ground,

3577
04:24:43,870 --> 04:24:44,930
drop, plus and things like that.

3578
04:24:45,210 --> 04:24:51,150
So you're saying that Catherine agreed that if we were to then go and investigate cheaper options,

3579
04:24:51,770 --> 04:24:57,610
she could reopen the library and then close it again later when they did work.

3580
04:24:57,610 --> 04:24:59,970
the circulation desk group. Is that good too?

3581
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:04,520
Then I fully trust what you're saying. I'm just wondering Kevin if you're aware of that.

3582
04:25:04,660 --> 04:25:07,820
Yeah, we spoke in Catherine and said if we had to look into what we could do.

3583
04:25:08,040 --> 04:25:12,160
Because over this holiday period, there are a lot of closed days coming up anyway on top of

3584
04:25:12,160 --> 04:25:13,560
a library with a holiday season.

3585
04:25:13,760 --> 04:25:20,000
And sorry, just to make sure just to be aware of the consequences, do you have a sense Kevin

3586
04:25:21,940 --> 04:25:28,060
of how long that intermittent period might be? Like will it take an extra week or might take an extra month?

3587
04:25:28,820 --> 04:25:30,720
to get the quotes or to do the work.

3588
04:25:31,200 --> 04:25:33,460
We should be able to turn around the quotes fairly quickly.

3589
04:25:33,740 --> 04:25:36,440
We should be able to find three or so contractors to do this kind of work.

3590
04:25:37,200 --> 04:25:40,360
Okay, so we're talking like less than less than a month.

3591
04:25:40,480 --> 04:25:43,000
So yeah, we should be able to prove by the first meeting in January.

3592
04:25:43,240 --> 04:25:43,480
Okay.

3593
04:25:44,240 --> 04:25:44,820
Oh great.

3594
04:25:45,260 --> 04:25:46,180
Yeah, that's awesome.

3595
04:25:46,500 --> 04:25:47,060
Thank you.

3596
04:25:47,860 --> 04:25:48,180
Thank you.

3597
04:25:48,440 --> 04:25:49,880
So we just want to take a look.

3598
04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:50,180
Yep.

3599
04:25:51,740 --> 04:25:52,540
Thank you.

3600
04:25:52,540 --> 04:25:57,200
First of all, we received a letter of resignation for purposes of retirement from Patty Columbo,

3601
04:25:57,380 --> 04:26:00,360
received of taxes, effective January 1st, 2024.

3602
04:26:00,720 --> 04:26:06,800
Technically, Patty retired, and that's when we converted the position to appointed versus

3603
04:26:07,800 --> 04:26:12,540
elected, but then we hired a back, which was great, which was the intent when we did it,

3604
04:26:13,080 --> 04:26:18,020
and we saved a fair amount of money by doing that, but every town needs a received

3605
04:26:18,020 --> 04:26:18,560
of taxes.

3606
04:26:18,560 --> 04:26:20,880
So we hired a back, and she had that same designation,

3607
04:26:21,120 --> 04:26:22,900
so she's retiring sort of again.

3608
04:26:23,520 --> 04:26:26,320
But she's been so terrific, Patty, for so many years,

3609
04:26:26,520 --> 04:26:28,420
I've such a pleasure to know her.

3610
04:26:29,200 --> 04:26:31,580
And so finally, she'll be really retired,

3611
04:26:31,580 --> 04:26:34,020
and we wish her well, and it's been just a pleasure to work

3612
04:26:34,020 --> 04:26:34,660
in with her.

3613
04:26:35,500 --> 04:26:37,180
So if anybody else wants to make any comments.

3614
04:26:37,960 --> 04:26:41,240
So she's been in institution, and when she worked with

3615
04:26:41,240 --> 04:26:45,580
my upmildred, and then became receiver when she retired.

3616
04:26:45,580 --> 04:26:50,100
So definitely she's been in the list for a long time and done the next one, child.

3617
04:26:50,140 --> 04:26:50,360
Yeah.

3618
04:26:51,140 --> 04:26:57,560
I'm not sure that there are that many people who could make a pleasant to have to pay property taxes.

3619
04:26:58,340 --> 04:27:01,400
She's wonderful. She's done a great job. She's wonderful.

3620
04:27:02,600 --> 04:27:06,220
And I hope she enjoys her free time.

3621
04:27:06,860 --> 04:27:09,300
So I need a motion to receive letter of resignation.

3622
04:27:09,300 --> 04:27:10,280
I'll make a motion.

3623
04:27:10,660 --> 04:27:11,100
I'll second.

3624
04:27:11,100 --> 04:27:11,600
on favor?

3625
04:27:12,620 --> 04:27:17,140
Also, we see the letter of resignation from Peter Trudior L.

3626
04:27:17,480 --> 04:27:19,180
I said, please, let's try to get out.

3627
04:27:19,320 --> 04:27:22,320
Sorry, Trudior L. Please, the problem affected December 12, 2020.

3628
04:27:23,260 --> 04:27:23,300
All right.

3629
04:27:23,300 --> 04:27:24,420
We'll make that motion.

3630
04:27:24,700 --> 04:27:24,960
All right.

3631
04:27:25,180 --> 04:27:25,600
All right.

3632
04:27:26,780 --> 04:27:28,560
I'll make that motion.

3633
04:27:28,720 --> 04:27:29,060
I'll make that motion.

3634
04:27:29,500 --> 04:27:33,580
I'll make that motion.

3635
04:27:34,660 --> 04:27:34,780
All right.

3636
04:27:34,780 --> 04:27:35,160
All right.

3637
04:27:35,160 --> 04:27:35,320
All right.

3638
04:27:35,320 --> 04:27:36,800
Are we on C or D?

3639
04:27:37,580 --> 04:27:37,660
C?

3640
04:27:37,660 --> 04:27:38,220
Do I read the wrong one?

3641
04:27:43,680 --> 04:27:48,920
It's not on this agenda. It's on the revised. It's got a little confusing.

3642
04:27:55,800 --> 04:28:00,880
We see the resignation from Ryan Hurd, Highway Department, in fact of December 23rd, 2023.

3643
04:28:01,140 --> 04:28:02,800
I'll make that motion. I'll second.

3644
04:28:02,800 --> 04:28:03,420
All in favor?

3645
04:28:04,560 --> 04:28:04,980
Thank you.

3646
04:28:05,260 --> 04:28:08,600
Consider authorization for supervisors on the notification of appointment or register or

3647
04:28:08,600 --> 04:28:09,240
vital statistics.

3648
04:28:09,900 --> 04:28:14,000
I mean, I have a question actually, and this, we usually, it looked to me like when I

3649
04:28:14,000 --> 04:28:17,720
looked in the past we always do this at the organizational meeting in January.

3650
04:28:18,480 --> 04:28:20,740
For every year, I could find, do you know what we're doing now?

3651
04:28:22,260 --> 04:28:22,660
I don't know.

3652
04:28:22,740 --> 04:28:27,940
I don't know if we did it every year, an organizational, I can't say that, fairly.

3653
04:28:28,320 --> 04:28:29,560
I look back at the past three.

3654
04:28:29,780 --> 04:28:30,520
We were.

3655
04:28:30,520 --> 04:28:31,740
I'm going, I'm saying going back.

3656
04:28:32,160 --> 04:28:33,580
a decade or more.

3657
04:28:33,660 --> 04:28:35,180
To be saying the opposite of that, I am telling this

3658
04:28:35,180 --> 04:28:37,680
why we're doing it now, or why we can't do it now

3659
04:28:37,680 --> 04:28:38,660
versus doing it.

3660
04:28:38,660 --> 04:28:39,480
You guys doing it in January?

3661
04:28:39,860 --> 04:28:44,040
We do it every year on the organizational agenda,

3662
04:28:44,240 --> 04:28:46,720
but this is a form that needs to be filed with the county

3663
04:28:47,240 --> 04:28:50,040
and to avoid a lapse in coverage.

3664
04:28:50,940 --> 04:28:53,620
I wanted to get it in before the end of year.

3665
04:28:55,520 --> 04:28:57,480
Because the effect of dates, 1, 1, 24.

3666
04:28:59,100 --> 04:29:00,580
But that's what it's been in past years.

3667
04:29:01,380 --> 04:29:02,180
Don't know.

3668
04:29:02,180 --> 04:29:07,040
is there any reason why we shouldn't do it now and wait till the organization of any

3669
04:29:07,040 --> 04:29:10,080
well anything change between now and then on this form?

3670
04:29:11,040 --> 04:29:13,060
else there are anything changes between now and then?

3671
04:29:13,060 --> 04:29:13,380
Yeah.

3672
04:29:15,710 --> 04:29:19,190
I'm fine proving it now unless somebody fails, we need to do need to wait to January.

3673
04:29:19,730 --> 04:29:22,750
I think we should do it the way we've always done it at the organizational meeting.

3674
04:29:23,270 --> 04:29:30,570
The organizational meeting, it's not to sign the document, it's just to continue the appointment.

3675
04:29:30,570 --> 04:29:37,890
So there is a little bit of a distinction, but it shouldn't be an issue.

3676
04:29:40,410 --> 04:29:42,930
So I'm fine doing it now, Matt, would like to wait, Jose.

3677
04:29:43,870 --> 04:29:45,450
I'm fine with it now.

3678
04:29:46,790 --> 04:29:48,430
I don't have enough information.

3679
04:29:48,870 --> 04:29:50,270
I don't really think about it that much.

3680
04:29:50,670 --> 04:29:52,510
So you want to do it now or you want to wait a bit.

3681
04:29:52,570 --> 04:29:53,850
I probably would have stayed on it.

3682
04:29:54,030 --> 04:29:55,350
I don't have enough information to decide.

3683
04:29:56,190 --> 04:29:58,150
Okay, so two of us want to do it, Matt doesn't want.

3684
04:29:58,150 --> 04:29:58,850
Was it silly?

3685
04:29:59,690 --> 04:29:59,830
Um, sorry.

3686
04:30:00,540 --> 04:30:08,640
So just to make sure I understand the reason why we need to do it now is because there's a form that needs to be submitted to the county.

3687
04:30:09,140 --> 04:30:12,820
And that form is to funds that fund it.

3688
04:30:12,840 --> 04:30:21,760
If they want it out, they give it to me now and it's signed and returned. I don't have the return date, but they wanted it. I think by the end of the month.

3689
04:30:21,760 --> 04:30:28,920
Okay, so in this case if we do it like we've always done it in the past, there's

3690
04:30:29,560 --> 04:30:32,760
they would get it later than they'd like to get it.

3691
04:30:33,980 --> 04:30:38,900
Having said there is an extension because this is pertains to a form only.

3692
04:30:39,520 --> 04:30:47,240
He's asking a supervisor to sign a form as opposed to the appointment to the position

3693
04:30:47,740 --> 04:30:49,740
which is done every year on your desk.

3694
04:30:51,120 --> 04:31:00,240
And what do they, it's still a point me presumably to the position of registrar organization.

3695
04:31:01,600 --> 04:31:03,660
Have we submitted this form in past years?

3696
04:31:04,340 --> 04:31:12,160
I have never had this form before and now that I could recall, it could have been done by somebody else in my office,

3697
04:31:12,540 --> 04:31:18,260
but I have recall having this form and having to have it approved by the board.

3698
04:31:18,260 --> 04:31:24,700
But since I received it, I thought that it would be best to follow the procedure that the county requested.

3699
04:31:25,340 --> 04:31:29,700
Okay. And we have submitted this form before in our office.

3700
04:31:30,140 --> 04:31:37,000
That's Maria. It's Maria. We have submitted this form before. This is proceed. This is like a visit of Oz.

3701
04:31:37,760 --> 04:31:45,180
We have submitted this form before. This is standard procedure. And this is nothing new.

3702
04:31:45,180 --> 04:31:52,220
We do not do this, we will not have a registrar come January 1st, and we will not be able to process

3703
04:31:52,220 --> 04:31:56,600
that certificate. This is really, really important.

3704
04:31:56,900 --> 04:31:57,340
Thank you, Mary.

3705
04:31:57,440 --> 04:32:02,660
Right, Mary, guys, ask us, we've never had this on December of Gendez, when did we submit the form in past years?

3706
04:32:03,760 --> 04:32:04,640
In December.

3707
04:32:05,740 --> 04:32:06,000
Okay.

3708
04:32:07,460 --> 04:32:07,840
So why?

3709
04:32:07,980 --> 04:32:11,780
It wasn't done in the agenda, it was a mistake that it was not put on there.

3710
04:32:12,520 --> 04:32:14,920
Okay, in that case, then I'm fine with it.

3711
04:32:15,820 --> 04:32:17,240
That's interesting. Thank you.

3712
04:32:17,840 --> 04:32:18,140
Yeah.

3713
04:32:20,480 --> 04:32:21,300
So I'm motion two.

3714
04:32:22,060 --> 04:32:24,160
Why theorize me to sign the notification.

3715
04:32:25,200 --> 04:32:26,740
Is there a second?

3716
04:32:27,400 --> 04:32:27,860
You mean a motion?

3717
04:32:27,940 --> 04:32:28,560
I made the motion.

3718
04:32:29,520 --> 04:32:29,960
I'll make a second.

3719
04:32:30,920 --> 04:32:31,180
On favor.

3720
04:32:31,720 --> 04:32:33,180
I'll abstain on it.

3721
04:32:34,040 --> 04:32:35,300
So we need a roll call.

3722
04:32:35,640 --> 04:32:35,900
Allison.

3723
04:32:47,080 --> 04:32:47,260
Hi.

3724
04:32:47,500 --> 04:32:47,760
Hi.

3725
04:32:50,480 --> 04:32:51,800
I'll excuse me.

3726
04:32:52,080 --> 04:32:52,460
Allison in there.

3727
04:32:52,960 --> 04:32:54,080
I'll abstain.

3728
04:32:54,080 --> 04:32:56,080
Thank you.

3729
04:32:58,900 --> 04:33:02,400
Next item is.

3730
04:33:02,580 --> 04:33:05,180
This agenda had Ryan further down.

3731
04:33:05,900 --> 04:33:06,740
So we're on.

3732
04:33:07,960 --> 04:33:10,980
Consider requirement of Alice in assignment is marriage officer for the 10

3733
04:33:11,640 --> 04:33:12,200
Northcastle.

3734
04:33:12,300 --> 04:33:14,580
Cleterminist with position of town clerk.

3735
04:33:15,100 --> 04:33:16,280
Any comments or questions?

3736
04:33:16,620 --> 04:33:19,900
Yeah, is this again, is this about a form or is this doing something that we

3737
04:33:19,900 --> 04:33:21,780
normally do on an organizational agenda?

3738
04:33:21,780 --> 04:33:31,180
We've done this in the past about three years ago with because of COVID and it was done on a town board agenda.

3739
04:33:31,760 --> 04:33:42,000
And we realized that the term expires with the end of my existing term December 31, 2020,

3740
04:33:42,000 --> 04:33:46,140
and in order to move forward in this position,

3741
04:33:47,460 --> 04:33:52,520
to provide marriages to couples who come in and request them.

3742
04:33:52,520 --> 04:33:54,620
And we've had quite a few.

3743
04:33:55,820 --> 04:34:00,600
It needs to be reauthorized by the town board.

3744
04:34:02,900 --> 04:34:05,940
So this has never been on the organizational agenda.

3745
04:34:10,890 --> 04:34:12,070
Thank you.

3746
04:34:12,670 --> 04:34:15,590
I would like to make a motion to accept.

3747
04:34:16,150 --> 04:34:17,330
You want it?

3748
04:34:17,330 --> 04:34:19,010
To accept the appointment.

3749
04:34:20,190 --> 04:34:20,490
Second.

3750
04:34:21,350 --> 04:34:21,650
All in favor?

3751
04:34:22,070 --> 04:34:22,270
All in favor.

3752
04:34:23,090 --> 04:34:23,810
Go call again.

3753
04:34:24,910 --> 04:34:27,850
I haven't been able to sink into my drop box, so I didn't look at this either.

3754
04:34:28,830 --> 04:34:30,170
So we have a roll call vote now.

3755
04:34:30,350 --> 04:34:32,630
The documentation on this and the draft box.

3756
04:34:32,830 --> 04:34:33,870
Do you still wish to abstain?

3757
04:34:35,390 --> 04:34:35,450
Yeah.

3758
04:34:35,690 --> 04:34:36,010
You roll call.

3759
04:34:36,250 --> 04:34:36,810
I'll see you on the agenda.

3760
04:34:41,700 --> 04:34:42,720
I have me.

3761
04:34:44,480 --> 04:34:45,080
That's an envelope.

3762
04:34:45,280 --> 04:34:45,560
Hi.

3763
04:34:45,860 --> 04:34:46,420
That's an order.

3764
04:34:51,630 --> 04:34:59,810
Okay, we'll go to consider the re-employment of Collin Rex to the Park and Record Advisory Board for a three-year term to expire in December 31st, 2026.

3765
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:05,180
I saw Carl here earlier, and thank him for his continued efforts on the parks and

3766
04:35:05,180 --> 04:35:05,580
recommendations.

3767
04:35:05,860 --> 04:35:07,380
And I'd like to make that motion.

3768
04:35:08,580 --> 04:35:08,820
On favour?

3769
04:35:09,160 --> 04:35:09,360
Aye.

3770
04:35:09,660 --> 04:35:11,200
And also I saw a normal hill.

3771
04:35:11,380 --> 04:35:13,320
Here she was gone. She's gone now.

3772
04:35:13,600 --> 04:35:15,880
Consider the re-applement of normal hill to the parks and

3773
04:35:15,880 --> 04:35:18,760
record advisory board for a three year term to expire in December 31,

3774
04:35:19,420 --> 04:35:21,480
2026. Any comments or questions?

3775
04:35:22,980 --> 04:35:23,580
I'll make the motion.

3776
04:35:24,120 --> 04:35:25,140
I'll second on favour?

3777
04:35:25,980 --> 04:35:28,900
And then we have a motion to approve the consensus agenda.

3778
04:35:29,640 --> 04:35:30,660
I'll make that motion.

3779
04:35:30,660 --> 04:35:32,200
What did I miss?

3780
04:35:32,200 --> 04:35:33,360
I know you did the other deal.

3781
04:35:34,080 --> 04:35:34,200
Yeah.

3782
04:35:34,200 --> 04:35:35,080
I'll make that motion.

3783
04:35:35,960 --> 04:35:36,320
I'll second.

3784
04:35:36,520 --> 04:35:37,020
On favor.

3785
04:35:37,440 --> 04:35:38,020
All right.

3786
04:35:38,420 --> 04:35:38,720
Coming.

3787
04:35:39,780 --> 04:35:40,560
Covered that.

3788
04:35:41,600 --> 04:35:44,960
We have a few closing in memory of Alex Malina

3789
04:35:44,960 --> 04:35:46,960
young resident in town.

3790
04:35:47,760 --> 04:35:48,040
Young dad.

3791
04:35:49,840 --> 04:35:52,880
And folks in Paris go out to his family and friends.

3792
04:35:53,240 --> 04:35:56,320
Fred Gambino, former resident and a castle police officer.

3793
04:35:56,320 --> 04:36:01,480
I'm related to my neighbor across the street, so I thought some press got to him and his family,

3794
04:36:01,820 --> 04:36:04,940
and Dorothy Smith also a resident of Omaha. Same thing.

3795
04:36:05,240 --> 04:36:09,000
And I would like to just close in the memory of Billy Decker Jr.

3796
04:36:09,800 --> 04:36:13,460
who left us six years ago yesterday.

3797
04:36:15,520 --> 04:36:20,860
I also just want to say a quick thing on Alex Molina. Alex was a friend of mine, Greg I.

3798
04:36:20,860 --> 04:36:27,020
He was always, you know, we shared a lot of, like, really great memories together, watching

3799
04:36:28,080 --> 04:36:30,120
our daughters play soccer on the cross.

3800
04:36:30,980 --> 04:36:34,860
He was just such a fun-loving, outgoing person.

3801
04:36:35,580 --> 04:36:39,060
He'd be, you know, the guy at the sporting events, always cheering.

3802
04:36:39,420 --> 04:36:42,200
He'd be playing, you know, football on the sidelines with my boys.

3803
04:36:42,600 --> 04:36:47,700
It's just such a tragedy, you know, that he, you know, he passed away at such a young age.

3804
04:36:50,360 --> 04:36:52,440
With that, I will

3805
04:36:55,060 --> 04:37:02,460
state that it's been just an honor and a pleasure and a blessing to have the privilege to serve this town.

3806
04:37:02,880 --> 04:37:04,340
We moved here in 1999.

3807
04:37:05,960 --> 04:37:06,580
We were invisible.

3808
04:37:07,460 --> 04:37:12,880
We always say, and ever thought I would get involved certainly in the local government.

3809
04:37:13,060 --> 04:37:14,740
Certainly, never become a town supervisor.

3810
04:37:14,860 --> 04:37:17,860
But it really is one of the true honors and blessings of my life.

3811
04:37:17,860 --> 04:37:19,000
It really has.

3812
04:37:19,000 --> 04:37:24,980
Just to be able to meet so many people and people to trust in you, I want to thank my

3813
04:37:24,980 --> 04:37:30,900
family for being here and I'm sorry for some of the things you've had to endure but unfortunately

3814
04:37:30,900 --> 04:37:38,360
for 16 years you've had to do that and your mom and I raised our daughters to be strong

3815
04:37:38,360 --> 04:37:42,060
women and they can sustain just about anything.

3816
04:37:42,860 --> 04:37:56,000
And the last comment they'll make is there's one of my favorite TV shows and one of my favorite scenes in any TV show is the dart scene in Ted Lasson.

3817
04:37:56,100 --> 04:37:58,400
If you haven't seen it, you should watch it.

3818
04:37:58,680 --> 04:38:07,340
And I encourage everybody to try to apply to what he taught everybody there in the Walt Whitman phrase of be curious and not judgmental.

3819
04:38:07,340 --> 04:38:15,100
I think that's very important especially in this this time in this stage. So with that, I'm going to sign off for the last time and

3820
04:38:16,340 --> 04:38:18,340
Laurie I'm coming home

3821
04:38:24,080 --> 04:38:32,900
He's a motion to close the meeting of December 14th. I will reach the motion. I'll second on favor. I thank you