1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:08,400 Rise for pledge of allegiance, please. Flag is by the police officers. I pledge 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:15,040 allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 3 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:20,920 which stands one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 all. 5 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:29,439 » First item on agend roll call. Five members of the president. Second item 6 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:32,399 approving a minute from August 12th. I'd make a motion we approve. 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:37,440 » Motion made, second by Sue. All in favor. 8 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:43,280 » Next item up is um we're gonna skip a couple. Go right down aiming 9 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:47,120 new road at Nate. >> Thank you, Nate. 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,399 » How are you, buddy? >> Good. How are you, Mike? 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,039 » Good. So, what was yours, sir? 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:59,120 » Yeah. So, as you can see, there's two new roads. Uh one of them is Timberview 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:02,719 uh Drive. Uh that's over off Alagash. You could have something on your desk 14 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:07,760 there that says where that is. And the other one is uh 15 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:15,040 Banette Way, Banette Lane, I think is what it is. Uh over from the Belgra 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,320 across from the Bandic Road. Uh but that is because you've got a two 17 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:21,360 unit on that piece of property and you also got the storage facility there as 18 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:25,680 well. So where there's a couple structures for E911, we needed to put an 19 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:29,920 address on that. So, uh, it's not necessarily Belgrade Road, but we're 20 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,479 changing this shot from 53 Belgrade roads to a number ban lane, I think, 21 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,799 where it is. >> Yeah. 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:42,159 » And then the other one is right off Alag. It's an established lot already. 23 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:47,680 It's being developed. So, we need a wrote that I named that road. So, 24 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:53,840 » we picked those two names uh chief sub and chief with those two names. 25 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,880 » So, there they are. I've made a motion we accept those two recommendations for 26 00:01:55,759 --> 00:02:00,000 road names. >> Motion is made, seconded by Sue. All in 27 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:03,360 favor? >> Thank you, sir. 28 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:08,800 » Next item up is going to the chief of police, Chief St. is going to 29 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:12,800 » Oh, you want to do the poll next? >> Yeah. 30 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:16,480 » All right. Disregarding last they've been in here all day. So, 31 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:18,080 » Oh, kids at home. >> Thank you. 32 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,440 » Get them out of here. >> That's me. Uh tax commitment update. We 33 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:28,640 did do our tax commitment on Friday the 4th. Um, 34 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:35,120 the mill rate uh we ended up with was $10.92 per thousand and our overlay um 35 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:40,239 is just at $150,000 change. Um that overlay again just so we 36 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,239 can talk about what it is. We're going to it's it's used for any abatements 37 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:48,560 that we have happening which I expect more abatements this year than than most 38 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:52,640 years. Um, and then also, um, for those people that don't pay, uh, timely, it 39 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,959 allows the town to function and to do all the things they need to do because 40 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,040 they need the money that was set in the budget. So, that's what the overlay is 41 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:06,319 there for. Uh, the maximum overlay that we could have done was $700,000. So, we, 42 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:10,080 you know, we stayed at $150,000 to stay conservative, but still have 43 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:15,280 some money there for us. Any questions about 44 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:18,560 the tax commitment from you guys? We are at 100% of market value. So, we 45 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:25,440 are giving those full homestead and full veterans exemptions as well. So, 46 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:30,239 » thank you. No question. >> Question. I know there's $25,000 for the 47 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:35,640 homestead exemption. What is full? >> The full vet right now is $6,000. 48 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:35,640 » Thank you so much. 49 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,599 » Any no questions? have a question in the back. Go ahead, sir. 50 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,760 » How much is in the pound reserve account today? 51 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:58,879 » Um 1.4 million in our insured cash sweep. So that is 52 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:04,080 our kind of our operating. It sweeps back and forth. Um we have one account 53 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:10,560 that we operate daily out of. It goes it's always set at 300,000. So checks 54 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:15,040 clear, expenses come in, you know, that's what we operate on. But at the 55 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:21,040 end of the day, it's either swept out to make it $300,000 or or money swept in to 56 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:28,000 make it $300,000. So we we start every day with 300,000. Then we have um some 57 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:37,120 trust funds that are invested, the cemetery trust, distressed person trust, 58 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:41,199 um BB something trust. >> Yeah. And then there's another trust. We 59 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:46,080 can't really touch those. those kind of operate on their owns. And then we have 60 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:54,680 special revenues along with a little bit of general fund money. And that's about 61 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,680 1.6 million that's invested in bonds. 62 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:05,199 » No further questions. Thank you ma'am for coming in. 63 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:10,880 » Thank you. >> Next item up is Kelly introducing 64 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:16,880 » Yes. So, we have a new police officer, very actful staff. Um, officer Derek 65 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:21,840 Brill comes to us from Cumberland County Sheriff's Office where he spent the last 66 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:26,560 20 years as a deputy. While at Cumberland County, he was a field 67 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,880 training officer and patrolled the town of Standish. Derek also held several 68 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,880 other certifications. Dererick is from originally from 69 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,639 Winslow, Maine. He attended Winsel High School and then went on to the 70 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:42,160 University of Southern Maine where he received a bachelor's degree in sports 71 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,960 medicine. In a time where there's a big shortage 72 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:55,479 of police officers, we're very fortunate to have such qualified professional join 73 00:05:49,919 --> 00:05:55,479 our staff. So, welcome Derek. 74 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,759 You want to say anything? 75 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,600 Thank you. >> Next one up is Chief Cochell with EMS 76 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:20,000 resolution. >> Yep. See, you should have all received a 77 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:25,520 draft of the EMS resolution in your packets. Um, we're now required by state 78 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:31,759 law to have that. I have had legal review it and they said it meets all the 79 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:37,680 state requirements and I think I'll have Dave speak a little bit more about where 80 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:45,360 this came from and why. So it's um it's actually main state 81 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:51,280 statute that each town adopts this resol a resolution which 82 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:57,639 will tell the residents who the transporting agency would be to 83 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:57,639 take them to the hospital. 84 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:05,680 So once once we accept the resolution we have to report it to a bunch of state 85 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:10,400 agencies then that would become part of the 86 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:15,280 town's book of ordinances if you will has to be posted in the same manner as 87 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:21,199 any other county or some of the website easily easily found 88 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:25,840 so this is a step in that process so required by the state the resolution 89 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:31,759 that that we put together was was a plate from mains also reviewed by the 90 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:36,000 town's council South to be. >> Yeah, they said it was it was fine. 91 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:41,919 Pretty boilerplate. >> I assume you recommend that we sign this 92 00:07:37,919 --> 00:07:46,360 thing, right? I make that motion. Motion made by Bob. All in favor? 93 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:57,840 » I'll pass this down. You can sign it. >> Thank you. 94 00:07:54,879 --> 00:08:02,000 Um, >> next thing up is Kelly with the talking 95 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:08,080 about TRIO training. >> Yes. So, as you know, our TRIO software 96 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:13,440 that we currently use to assess and budget and cash receing and motor 97 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:19,199 vehicle. It does everything that makes us function as a town. Um, that our 98 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:24,720 version is going to be end of life in December at the end of December. and you 99 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:32,640 had approved us and the budget, we put the money in the budget to go to SQL Web 100 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:39,120 or no, Trio Web um their newest version. And on April 8th, you approved us to 101 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:46,880 close the office at 2:00 on October 8th. There's been a scheduling conflict and 102 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:53,440 we need to move that day to October 22nd that we would close the office at 2:00 103 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:57,279 to attend uh online training. Uh everyone in the office that uses TRIO 104 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:02,800 will be attending this training and that way we don't have to pay overtime. If we 105 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:07,760 can shut down 3 hours early, it'll give the girls, you know, 30 minutes to cash 106 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:11,200 up and then head to the training room. day of the week. 107 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,200 » Thursday. >> Thursday 108 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,200 time. >> Yeah, I think October 8th was Thursday 109 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,440 as well. So, I think TRIO only does trainings on Thursday. 110 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000 » We don't close at what time? >> 2:00. 111 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:33,959 » I make a motion we close at 2:00 on October 27th, but training. 112 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:33,959 » She had a question. Motion 113 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:40,880 made. Do we have a second? Kelly may make a second. Thank you. All in favor? 114 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:45,200 » Thank you. >> We are going live on December 1st, 115 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,440 so bear with us. >> Next one up there is another one for 116 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:57,279 Kell. It's Mission Square. Sure. >> Um, so as you know, our retirement 117 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:03,600 company is Mission Square Retirement. um part of our program and and contract 118 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:10,160 with them. You have to you become an employee, you have to wait 6 months 119 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:13,440 before um you can contribute like a six-month probationary period. Then you 120 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:19,519 can start contributing to your retirement. Currently, the employees 121 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:25,360 required to do one and a half% the town does 8%. But you have to be vested for 5 122 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,959 years. So, 123 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Cheryl, our finance director, was doing some digging and speaking with um 124 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Mission Square and realized that we had a forfeite account for the unvested 125 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:47,360 employees that had left. I mean, you're talking this goes back years. Um we did 126 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:55,040 receive the check today. I I said that's our money. Get it back to us. uh $50,000 127 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,480 50,6302. So 128 00:10:56,959 --> 00:11:02,880 um I would like to we still have four 129 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:06,880 employees that fall under the old policy in that employee separation account that 130 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:11,200 when they retire they're paid out a third of their sick time if they were 131 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:16,560 hired before 2003. So, we have four people 132 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:21,760 and I would like to put the money in that employee separation account to 133 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:27,000 cover that and we won't have to budget for that for a very long time. 134 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,920 I'll make that motion that we put that into that 135 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:42,880 for time or whatever. >> Employee separation. 136 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,160 » Employee separation for all the old people when they 137 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:49,279 » pay out sick time. Uh if somebody leaves, we do have to pay out vacation 138 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,320 time for law. >> Yeah. 139 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,640 » Um we do a retirement plaque or something. 140 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,600 » Most years we've had that in the budget to do that every year, right? Year after 141 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:02,240 year. Yeah, we've had some big retirements. Jan 142 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:04,880 uh and Doug Jan. >> Yeah. 143 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:08,880 » Eric. >> Motion is made. Do you have a second? 144 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:10,480 Second by Sum. All in favor question. >> Yeah. 145 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:16,240 » Question. >> I understand the for this is a plan 146 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:21,360 question. The forfeite of the employer contribution, 147 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:27,120 » but what about unvesting personal contributions? Are they an individual? 148 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:32,320 Those they keep the portion that they the 1.5% that they contributed 149 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,680 » outside. >> No, they keep that. It's just the p the 150 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:37,279 town's portion. >> Thank you. 151 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,600 » Yep. >> Motion to second by. So, all in favor? 152 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Thank you. >> Thank you. 153 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:52,800 » Next one up is an MMA annual conference. >> Uh, yep. They're having it in Augusta 154 00:12:49,360 --> 00:13:00,480 this year. Um, last year was Portland, I believe. We didn't go. TRIO is doing a 155 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:04,959 lot of sessions. Um, so Cheryl and I are going to attend. It's a two-day 156 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:10,160 conference right in Augusta, uh, 8 to 4 both days. So, letting you 157 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,200 know that >> Constitution, 158 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:21,760 » uh, we do this every year. the Daughters of the American Revolution out of Fort 159 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Halifax chapter um like us to sign a proclamation 160 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:33,839 um this week this year. It's uh September 17th to the 23rd. Patricia 161 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,440 Gorman has asked us again this year that the town of Oakland signed the 162 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:43,519 proclamation and asked our citizens to affirm the ideals and framers of the 163 00:13:39,839 --> 00:13:48,079 constitution had in 1787 by protecting the freedoms guaranteed to us through 164 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:53,519 this guardian of out liberties remembering that lost rights may never 165 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:58,480 be regained. So um they just need the chair to sign it. So, I've kind of 166 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:02,600 filled it in. Want to sign and copy and attest and seal that 167 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:12,639 and mail that back to her. Next, I'm going into old business 168 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,959 couple weeks ago. We talked about our SU8 169 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:22,240 uh school board starting the the term and day decision that was done back in 170 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:26,800 2009. I happen to be the chair that time. We 171 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:31,920 tabled that last week and you had some information you want to put out. 172 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:38,399 » Uh yes. So since uh when SAD became RSU8, 173 00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:45,279 SAD 47 became RSU8, the school board starting term date has been July 1 for 174 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:50,959 the town of Oakland for its existence. Um I did speak to the superintendent. 175 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:56,560 They have nothing in their bylaws regarding any towns when towns can 176 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:01,680 appoint their their board members. Each town does it differently. China starts 177 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:06,720 at a certain time, Belgrade, Rome, Sydney. Um 178 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:11,920 I checked with our lawyer just to make sure and he agreed that it's a pretty 179 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:16,720 much a town's decision. Um, the town did have a special had it on a warrant 180 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:23,680 article in the 2012 May town meeting that had it for July 181 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:28,959 1st start date. So, um, so I I tabled that myself because I 182 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:33,040 want I remember that we had quite a conversation on it at a time. So I would 183 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,320 and I called the superintendent, talked to superintendent, talked to the 184 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:40,639 assistant superintendent, talked to the chair of the board, the current chair, 185 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,880 and I talked to the old chair, the the one that just got done. All of them 186 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:49,759 agreed and and they all gave some very valid points saying that at the 187 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:54,880 beginning of July, committees are assigned to all members 188 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:59,279 to all members. So I just give you a hypothetical situation. Dana is all in 189 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:03,759 sports and I'm all into academics. Well, Dana would be in a committee of sports 190 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:09,279 and I'd be in academics. Well, if I'm termed out, not termed out, if I'm voted 191 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:15,440 out come January, my replacement would naturally go into my seat and would take 192 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:19,199 over as the, you know, into academics and might not even want to do anything 193 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:24,480 with academics. And so, it disrupts the whole program in the in the school 194 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,519 committ. Um, so that would be one thing. Another thing, they start their budget 195 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:33,600 is what they said. They start their budget and I remember this very clearly. 196 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:38,399 They start their budget as of July 1 already thinking of numbers for the next 197 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:43,759 year already thinking of how many people and if somebody comes in halfway through 198 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,880 then again they take in they're halfway through the process and it's kind of 199 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:51,680 like you know they're playing catchup for the rest of the year. So there's a 200 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:55,680 number of very valid points. Um each one of not each one of them only a couple 201 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:00,639 said sounds like you're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist and and and 202 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:04,959 so for as far as I'm concerned we should not change that 203 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:10,319 » comments. I would agree with that um for for two 204 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:15,280 reasons. Because I think that the voters that voted the the current school board 205 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:21,280 member in deserve to have that person complete their term as did the person 206 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:24,319 that ran and was um and was elected. And additionally, I know there was comments 207 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:28,240 that this town does, this town does it. I don't really think that she was just a 208 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:33,039 precedent to change anything just based on what another town does because people 209 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:37,520 want Oakland to be Oakland, not another town. And each one of the chairs and and 210 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:42,000 and the superintendent, assistant superintendent said, even though they 211 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:46,880 have been elected to the school board, they can attend all those meetings and 212 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:53,760 try to be caught up to, you know, to where they should be come the first part 213 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:58,080 of July. And the other and and I said all of them agreed very much unlike the 214 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:02,960 town of Oakland, we start our budget season in 215 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:06,799 January. So it it's not catchup. I started last week. 216 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:11,760 » Yeah. Yeah, you do. But we we don't get it until but you all your your 217 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:16,080 department heads get it and all that. So I I my recommendation just leave it 218 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:22,240 alone and move on. Boom. >> Ch a question. Um so the the the newly 219 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:27,360 um elected um school board member is able to attend the meetings and observe 220 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,960 so that they can be up to speed January July one if they like. I think that's 221 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:35,679 that's >> that works. Ma'am, how are you? 222 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:42,799 » Yeah, I'm a teacher district president. Um, so I 223 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:46,559 have a lot to do with the district and I have no problem with them starting in 224 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:51,679 July. The problem that I and other people in the district have is that 225 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:56,720 they're not they're voted in November and they don't start till the following 226 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:02,799 July. So you have someone voted out last November, served until just kept it 227 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:08,720 voting and doing everything until the following July when the the new person 228 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:14,320 that was voted in in November start was able to start. Um the consideration that 229 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:19,520 I would like you to make is that why can't we have the voting in June when 230 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:25,120 you did the school board elections? Vote them in in June then they start the 231 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:32,160 next month. every other district, four of the three of them start the the 232 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:36,640 day like right away. Um, and one of them, Belgrade's the only one that has 233 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:42,000 the election in March and they start in June, so it's within a couple months. 234 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:48,160 Ours, so I don't mind I I mean, we're fine with it starting July. Your logic 235 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:53,440 is great. It's spot on, but we would like them to be elected closer to the 236 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:57,840 date they start. So that the people of Oakland have vote that have voted people 237 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:02,880 in, you know, and voted somebody else out don't have the person they voted out 238 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:06,640 in for months and months. >> Exactly. 239 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:11,520 » I understand that and I I don't and I and each one of them had said the same 240 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:17,919 thing. We could do a June vote, but I think our June vote is we might get 500 241 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:23,280 people sometimes. You know, I know a couple years ago we had 228 people 242 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:27,520 voted. uh like our town meeting held in May uh last year I count them every time 243 00:20:25,679 --> 00:20:33,200 when we're sitting there we had 98 people representing 6,432 244 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:37,840 people and and I just think me personally and this is we can talk about 245 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:44,080 it more but me personally I think that's a very poor representation when you get 246 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:50,720 100 or 228 people voting for school board you know that 247 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:54,559 » you had the town was Say it again, sir. >> I think we haven't listened to that at 248 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,080 our town meetings and we're spending a lot more money. 249 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,799 » So, they voted in their own. 250 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:06,240 » Yep. So, sir >> agree with 110%. I just think it's the 251 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:11,280 right thing to do. Why keep someone hanging on for till 6 months? You know, 252 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,720 seven months and you know they're getting kicked out that just creates 253 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:19,679 poor vibes all the way through. You know what I'm saying? At the same time, each 254 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,039 one of the people I talked to at the school said they think that is the best 255 00:21:21,679 --> 00:21:28,120 way we're doing it and they said that they wish the other towns would do it 256 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,120 also. 257 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:37,120 » They said I asked them on purpose. So, you know, that's what we 258 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:39,440 » I mean, we could move it to June, but >> we get more voter participation in 259 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,880 November. >> Vote participation is is big in 260 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,080 November. Kelly, 261 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:48,320 » um I I would like to see us move to them being elected closer to the time that 262 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:51,120 they serve. >> Absolutely. 263 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:57,679 » Um I I think it makes perfect sense to do it that way and relying on whether we 264 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,039 have a big vote in November or not. I don't think that's a a valid thing 265 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,280 because we can do absentee ballot for the school board. So people can still 266 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:11,120 vote and not come on that day. And maybe we'll generate more people showing up 267 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:15,919 through our school board uh voting. I I to me it makes more sense to 268 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,919 have them serve closer to when they are elected. 269 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:24,840 I'm involved. 270 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:34,880 I I believe that when it was set for beginning in July 1, 271 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:36,960 the people had a good reason. very good reasons here on both sides. 272 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:42,240 » Okay. >> Um but but the difference between a 273 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:48,240 couple hundred voters and couple thousand voters is is important, I 274 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:53,280 think. So I don't see that we need to change. 275 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:58,480 » I I agree. We've have been criticized before for doing major things on 276 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:03,520 offtime elections or whatever you want to call it that we should do major 277 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:08,320 things during our November elections when we get a lot of people. We get a 278 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:13,000 pretty big turnout for November elections normally for a smaller town. 279 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,400 Sir, >> you change that. Instead of July, you 280 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:24,480 have a change to December. Change the time that you 281 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,720 » start in November. >> Yeah. 282 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,440 » Again, it goes back to what the school board told me, right? 283 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,960 » You know, and they said you're halfway through the year. 284 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:38,559 » Committee start, you know, so people playing catchup halfway through and and 285 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:44,159 I understand, you know what is and I understand both sides. I I I truly do. 286 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:47,840 And I do understand both sides of so that's why I'm saying if you vote in 287 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,360 November December you get put in you start fresh beginning of the year 288 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:53,600 » but it's the middle of the school middle of the budget 289 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,919 » but it's the middle of the budget it's middle committees it's the middle and 290 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:03,760 and they gave me a ton of good reasons. So with that being said 291 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:09,679 » yeah no the Sydney and Ran elections and take office in March China elections and 292 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:13,600 take office in November. Belgrade election in March and take 293 00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:19,440 place in June. Those are all in the middle. Those are not anything to do 294 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:26,640 with budget season which does not start July. Really we are negotiating right 295 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:31,840 now for the sports staff at RSU8 because they don't start their budgets 296 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:37,919 until November December. >> So would be a great time. 297 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:41,120 » I'll make a motion we take a vote. We can go for a vote. We'll go from there. 298 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:48,799 At this time, I'd like to make a motion that we vote on uh leaving it the way it 299 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:53,279 is. Uh they they come to uh voting in November and there's pros and cons on 300 00:24:50,880 --> 00:25:00,240 it, but there's voting in November. Schoolboard member starts on the July 301 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:04,400 one is that that's my motion. Second, seconded by Dana. All in favor and 302 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:09,760 opposed. There you go. Next thing up is the 303 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:21,679 I'm sorry. You guys stick together like please do one vote something to pass. 304 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:23,840 That's it for one person. >> I think it's time for you to move 305 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,600 forward. >> You got that choice in November. 306 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:32,080 » Yeah. >> At this time, we're going to move on. Uh 307 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:36,880 the next motion, the next item up is the RV camper discussion. Kelly. 308 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:42,559 » Yep. So, I understand we had a citizen complaint regarding someone living in a 309 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:47,127 camper right next door to their house. Um, the complaint was brought to you and 310 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,919 me. [clears throat] 311 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:56,640 I spoke to our code enforcement officer about it and that's not the process to 312 00:25:53,039 --> 00:26:01,039 take. Um, I'm going to call the citizen tomorrow, have them come speak with 313 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:06,559 Nate, do a formal complaint, and then Nate can 314 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:11,919 then go and start his process with the property owners. 315 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:18,720 Um, since it's sitting on the property owner's property. So, 316 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:24,159 and by doing that, it strikes up a conversation with the owners of the 317 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:28,880 property and we can find out how long it's going to be there because we do 318 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:34,400 have a they can be there for six months. Um but I really don't want to talk about 319 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,760 it yet because I don't want the citizen to 320 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,159 I want the citizen to have a conversation with our code enforcement 321 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:45,760 officer first. >> Okay. 322 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:54,720 » Next item up is the manager's update. >> Excuse me. Uh we did the tax commitment 323 00:26:49,520 --> 00:27:00,240 update on our open positions. Um, we hired a wreck coordinator position. 324 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:05,360 Um, it's part-time. It's 25 hours a week. We hired a Liberty Olivia Budro. 325 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:10,960 Um, she's been working with our summer wreck program since 2022. 326 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:17,200 She lives in Oakland. She graduated from Mealonsky. She's very familiar with our 327 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:21,840 Oakland WCK program, the kids. Um, so she started a week or so ago. 328 00:27:20,793 --> 00:27:28,559 » [cough] >> um the transfer station attendant. Um as 329 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:34,960 a the full-time position, we hired Dawson Puland. He started last week. 330 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:40,880 He's from Sydney, graduated from ESO in 2017 331 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:47,279 or 18. So young, strong kid, so he'll do well up there. Um and we still have a 332 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:52,240 CDL public works truck driver position 333 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:57,679 available. I have three applicants, one has a CDL. 334 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:02,080 So, it's Jeff Jeff's been so busy with the boat landing in the parking lot that 335 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,840 I haven't had a chance to connect with him. So, 336 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:11,440 » question >> public works CDL the class. 337 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,440 » I have CDL >> want 338 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:23,720 call sand. >> What's the pay? $25 an hour. 339 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,720 » Now we're talking. 340 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:29,320 » I can't bring you in above that. 341 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,720 » Um so yeah, that's that update. Um hopefully we'll get that filled. We got 342 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:42,520 to start pulling sand here in a few weeks. So 343 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520 yeah, 344 00:28:43,324 --> 00:28:48,480 [clears throat] >> Waterfront Park, 345 00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:53,279 you've been down. Beautiful. They did such a good job. 346 00:28:50,720 --> 00:29:00,080 Yeah. Um, uh, Manter did all the inwater work and 347 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:06,320 then our guys, our crew did, excuse me, everything outside of the 348 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:11,679 water. Um, boy did the design work. I mean, they saved us thousands of dollars 349 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:16,480 by us doing it ourselves. Um, we did were able to get a state of Maine grant. 350 00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:22,799 Uh, the state's been over and looked at it. They're they're like, "Wow." They're 351 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:29,120 very impressed. So, um, we are replacing some signs. 352 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:33,679 Um, the friends of Masalotsky is having Leon signs make a new sign down by the 353 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:39,279 water that talks about the lake and the invasive plants and all that. It's 354 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:43,600 really nice. So, I think when those get put up and the rest of it gets 355 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:48,240 paved, I want to talk with the chamber and maybe do like a little ribbon 356 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:55,039 cutting just to thank everybody for pitching in. 357 00:29:50,640 --> 00:30:00,799 It was It's a good job. And the um Midmain Marine and Hamlins 358 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,720 absolutely love it because they're pulling boats in and out all day long. 359 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,799 » Sure. I think they do a fantastic job. Thank you. And it's not going to be all 360 00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:10,880 clogged up anymore as one way traffic. It's going to be excellent. 361 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,840 » Yeah. >> And there 362 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:20,559 where Heroes parked kind of toward at the Music Series concerts. Um it's going 363 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:24,080 to be like angled parking. So that'll be one way out as well. 364 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:29,799 » Yeah. Awesome. >> Yeah. 365 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,799 » Excuse 366 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,440 I'm good. 367 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:41,240 » It's called Golden Rod. >> Oh, I hear you there. 368 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:52,880 » Um, I know we had talked a couple meetings 369 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:57,440 ago about having two meetings in November, 370 00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:01,440 doing the first and the third week. And then after looking at the schedule, 371 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:07,039 Kathy and I were like, that's the day after elections. I mean, 372 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:11,760 Kathy works like what, a 17-hour day, 18 hour day. And I don't not sure how 373 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:19,840 productive we we're shutting the office down. Everybody's working elections. Um, 374 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:25,279 it's going to be a big one, I think. So, so could we maybe not do the meeting the 375 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:30,880 council meeting on the 4th and if we need to meet do a special meeting the 376 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:38,960 following week. I'm just not sure how coherent we'll be 377 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:42,720 at 6:00 that night. I know I won't be. >> Good idea. 378 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:46,640 » Yeah. Can we vote on that? >> Yeah. 379 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:52,159 I'll make a motion that on November 4th meeting is now 380 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:56,039 cancelled unless we have a special problem that comes up 381 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:03,200 second the following week. >> Yeah, we can call me 382 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:11,120 » and then the third week we're going to have the auditor will do his 383 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:16,159 presentation too. So >> um 384 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:20,080 that's all I had. >> Kelly, do you have any Sue? Did you have 385 00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:23,919 any problem? >> I do not. 386 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:27,919 » One minor thing. Um every year at budget time, we talk about our recreation areas 387 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,919 and whether what kind of troubles we've had during the summer. We need gates and 388 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,159 people attending the gates and stuff like that. So, I would like to have 389 00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:40,399 Aaron and our police department get together before one of our next come 390 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,600 upcoming meetings. And >> usually we discuss this during budget 391 00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:47,200 season when we're busy and don't have much time to really 392 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:52,799 » work on it. So, if they could get to us one of our next schedule meetings and 393 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:55,799 give us um their opinion of how things went. 394 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,519 I know the cameras at Pleasant Point Park have helped, 395 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:09,840 but they're still leaving a lot of trash down in the trails where there's no 396 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:15,840 cameras. So, >> yeah, we can do that. 397 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:21,120 » The only I have is the the road next to the corner store and up high street is 398 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,200 horrible and it's getting worse by the day. 399 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,399 » That's true. right beside the corner store and it's all rippled out of the 400 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,159 state. >> Yep. 401 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:36,399 » And I asked I talked to Dave Allen and I said, "Can we dig it up?" This was end 402 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,039 of July. I'm like, "Can we dig it up? Put a good base just in that one 403 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,559 section." >> Yeah. 404 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:47,360 » And repave it. And he goes, "Well, that's slated to get all redone in 405 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:52,240 2028." I go, >> Dave, I go, "It's really bad right now." 406 00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:57,600 Um, he goes, "Well, let me send my experts out." And I haven't heard a 407 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,799 word, so I will follow up. >> You can tell when you're going through 408 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:06,960 there if you're following a native. The native has moved all the way over. So, 409 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,599 » and the outer state is don't know about that straight. 410 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:13,919 » Yeah. >> Riding a snowmobile. 411 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,800 » Yeah. It's awful. >> It is. 412 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:23,280 » If that's it, I'd like to enter into executive session at this time under one 413 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,480 Yes. Um put together anything at all to observe um Friday the 25th anniversary 414 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:32,720 of 911. >> I mean we're going to fly maybe flags at 415 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,359 half mass or we do something to recognize the day. 416 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,079 Don't flags have to come from the governor. 417 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,839 Yeah. Flag has to be set by the governor. 418 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,320 » Well, I mean you pretty much are the governor of the town, right? I mean you 419 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,720 guys right here, right? you get the governing body. 420 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:01,880 » Even if even if town buildings we don't have say over that 421 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:10,240 » been made supposed to be half staff made by 422 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:15,440 » okay but we will be flying half staff. >> Awesome. 423 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,560 » AJ gets all those notifications. All good. 424 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:25,520 » At this time, I'd like to enter into executive session 1 MRSA 456 now. Thank 425 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:30,400 you folks. Time now is 6:36. I have a motion seconded by by Dana. All in 426 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,720 favor? Thank you folks. Good night. Thank you for coming. 427 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480 Okay.