1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,269 stand in for the 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,519 invocation I to of the United States of 3 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:14,120 America and to the for stands one nation 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:20,790 God indivisible liy and justice for 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,640 all our heavenly father we are very 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,599 grateful to be able to be here this 7 00:00:25,599 --> 00:00:27,920 evening and to meet with the Town 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Council we pray for thy Spirit to bless us and guide us as we discuss uh 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 various matters before us we're also 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,200 thankful to be able to recognize uh 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,239 recipients of awards throughout our 12 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:41,680 community we're thankful for our 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,840 emergency responders for all that they 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,600 do to protect us and to serve the needs 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,760 of our community we appreciate their 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,079 sacrifice and pray for a blessing of 17 00:00:51,079 --> 00:00:53,320 peace and protection upon them and upon 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 their families we're thankful for the 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,239 moisture that we have received and we 20 00:00:57,239 --> 00:00:59,440 pray that thou continue to bless our 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,359 region with with the snow that we need 22 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:03,199 to help to protect our forests and our 23 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:06,360 lakes and our rivers and streams and we 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,680 acknowledge thy hand in all things and 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,720 say this in the name of Jesus Christ 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:18,280 amen thank you Keith Item B on our 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,320 agenda tonight is call to the public 28 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:22,079 this is a business meeting of the Town 29 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:23,880 Council the town values and welcomes 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,159 public input please address the council 31 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:27,759 as a whole and not individual council 32 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:29,640 members do not address staff or members 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,320 of the audience Council action on items 34 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,280 brought up and call to the public is 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,680 limited by the open meeting law Council 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,360 may direct staff to study the matter and 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,159 reschedule for further consideration at 38 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:42,560 a later date items on the agenda are not 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,280 heard and individuals are limited to 3 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,439 minutes I don't have any requests so if 41 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:48,880 this is the time if you would like to 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,479 speak tonight okay we'll move on then to 43 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:55,719 item C which is our consent agenda all 44 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:57,640 items listed are considered routine 45 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,360 matters and will be enacted by one 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,320 motion the Council there will be no 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,039 separate discussion unless a member of 48 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:05,280 council requests that an item or items 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,879 be removed council members may ask 50 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:10,000 questions without removal of the item 51 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,640 from the consent agenda and items are 52 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:14,440 considered in their normal sequence as 53 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,920 listed unless called out of order are 54 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,040 there any questions from the council 55 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,710 councelor Craig bomb any questions for 56 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,760 you no I'm fine thank you okay councelor 57 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,599 smiter um I ask to be excused to abstain 58 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,680 myself because one of the items on the 59 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,400 consent agenda is something I'm involved 60 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,560 with so I'll 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,560 abstain okay should we just pull that 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,120 one item just for that one item okay 63 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 chrisy we need a motion for that correct 64 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,120 okay do I have a motion to remove item 65 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,120 C2 from the consent agenda please vice 66 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,640 mayor uh I move to remove item C2 from 67 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:53,959 uh the consent agenda at this time I 68 00:02:53,959 --> 00:02:55,720 second that thank you all in favor 69 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,040 please signify by raising your right 70 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,159 hand councelor cbom 71 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:03,840 I thank you then um I will entertain a 72 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 motion for item 73 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,159 C1 vice mayor I move to approve uh C1 74 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:11,599 the the minutes of the Town council 75 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:14,519 meeting held on February 1st 2024 I 76 00:03:14,519 --> 00:03:16,840 second that thank you all those in favor 77 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,400 please signify by raising your right 78 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,799 hand councelor cig bomb I thank you 79 00:03:22,799 --> 00:03:25,040 we'll go back then to item C2 which is a 80 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,440 special event liquor license for the 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,519 balloon 82 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:31,599 festival vice mayor I move to uh approve 83 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,840 C2 the approval of a special event 84 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,799 liquor license for the balloon festival 85 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:37,920 at Mountain meow park for June 21st and 86 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,879 22nd 2024 I second that thank you we 87 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:43,319 have a motion to Second all in favor 88 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:45,799 please signify by raising your right 89 00:03:45,799 --> 00:03:50,000 hand thank you councelor CRI bomb I 90 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,840 thank you we'll note that um councelor 91 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,680 snitzer abstained from that vote moving 92 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,319 on then to item D which is business 93 00:03:57,319 --> 00:04:00,000 before our Council public comment will 94 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,760 be taken at the beginning of each agenda 95 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,280 item after the subject has been 96 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,159 announced by the mayor and explained by 97 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:07,680 staff any citizen who wishes may speak 98 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,599 one time for five minutes on each agenda 99 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,280 item before or after Council discussion 100 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,879 questions from Council Members however 101 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:15,640 may be directed to staff or a member of 102 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,040 the public through the mayor at any time 103 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,479 item D1 is a presentation of awards for 104 00:04:21,479 --> 00:04:24,120 the voice of democracy audio 105 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,880 essays Christie is this you no it's 106 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,440 that's what I thought George come on up 107 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,080 make sure you stay close to the little 108 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,919 red lights so everybody can hear you 109 00:04:34,919 --> 00:04:38,639 very good uh mayor council um on behalf 110 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:42,160 of BFW post 2364 I want to thank you 111 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,520 again for having us here every year 112 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,600 doing this um it's it's a good thing for 113 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,360 the I think for some of the kids and of 114 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,360 course law enforcement enironment EMTs 115 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,800 they don't get enough credit and you 116 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,240 know they can't take this one to the 117 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,080 bank but it might lighten their heart a 118 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,639 little bit I don't know uh at the first 119 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,960 meeting this month John Bey gave out uh 120 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,120 one of the voice of democracy Awards and 121 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,199 the other two uh winners we had I 122 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:13,039 believe were over at the high school 123 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:16,039 participating in a stage play so we'd 124 00:05:16,039 --> 00:05:17,919 like to catch up on that tonight 125 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:20,240 starting out with the voice of democracy 126 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,199 Awards and I know that John explained it 127 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:25,039 all to you last meeting so off for go 128 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:27,720 that tonight so we'll start off with our 129 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,720 third place award voice of De Ry and 130 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,909 that is Brook 131 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:37,720 horn I don't see them tonight both and 132 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Grace were going to come tonight I don't 133 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,880 know if something happened unless 134 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,199 they're out in the hallway I don't see 135 00:05:42,199 --> 00:05:45,000 them yeah I don't either okay we'll just 136 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,800 move them along then the other one's not 137 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,880 here either no neither one of those 138 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,639 could announce it go ahead and announce 139 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,440 their names though anyhow uh anyhow go 140 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 back uh Brooke would have gotten a check 141 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,919 for 142 00:05:56,919 --> 00:06:00,000 $50 and then Grace Smithson 143 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,080 uh who was second place would have got a 144 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,120 check for 145 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,880 $75 and at the last uh council meeting 146 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Jackson Woods who our first place got a 147 00:06:10,039 --> 00:06:13,039 $100 and then with the district uh he 148 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:14,479 took third place so he would have got 149 00:06:14,479 --> 00:06:17,240 another $75 there so we got that well 150 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,199 congratulations to all of those students 151 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:21,120 they did a good job they really do they 152 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,639 do um then we'll go ahead to your next 153 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:26,120 item D2 which is presentation of Public 154 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Service Awards from efw post 23 la 155 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,240 firefighter and EMT emergency medical 156 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,479 technician um we'll start off with uh 157 00:06:37,479 --> 00:06:39,720 the co a code enforcement it's a Police 158 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Service Officer Chelsea H for the town 159 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,950 of Pinetop 160 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:58,390 [Applause] 161 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:04,589 Lakeside 162 00:07:04,599 --> 00:07:07,039 next we have our deputy sheriff Haley 163 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:09,520 farus from the neevo county sheriff's 164 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:18,440 [Applause] 165 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:25,710 office 166 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,319 no 167 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:31,120 thanks and the next award I think I said 168 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,840 the same thing last year is kind of 169 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,840 close to my heart as both my wife and I 170 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,280 were Detention officers down in Puma 171 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,479 County for uh Clarence stupnick back in 172 00:07:41,479 --> 00:07:43,000 that's a long time ago if you guys knew 173 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,879 what but anyhow we have Deputy A 174 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:48,120 detention deputy sheriff Brian 175 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,910 mcelrath in the Navajo County 176 00:07:50,910 --> 00:07:58,309 [Applause] 177 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:00,639 shff 178 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:04,599 fire fire Lewis marabelli from Pinetop 179 00:08:04,599 --> 00:08:16,230 fire 180 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,919 district and last we have paramedic paramedic Zack 181 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:24,300 vanik I said that 182 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:28,240 [Applause] 183 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 right 184 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,389 again mayor council thank you for having 185 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:40,080 us okay yeah sh and Dan if we could get 186 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,279 Dan up here and 187 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:46,680 Jim and Dave is Dave here he's spting 188 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:51,440 around oh there he is Sheriff clouse we 189 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,980 can get them all up here and get a 190 00:08:53,980 --> 00:08:58,190 [Music] 191 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 picture okay you guys got to get way 192 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:09,030 closer 193 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,630 together 194 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,360 two thanks 195 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:26,670 [Applause] 196 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:28,920 again thank you for being here George 197 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,839 and congratulations to all of you we do 198 00:09:30,839 --> 00:09:38,590 appreciate all of your service thank 199 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,920 you okay we'll move on then to item D4 200 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 which is excuse me item 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,040 D3 presentation from Navajo County 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Sheriff's Office including a recap of 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,399 2023 and plans for 204 00:09:51,399 --> 00:09:58,110 2024 sheriff klous and Lieutenant 205 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,350 Williams 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,440 well good 207 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,560 evening nice to see you yeah thank you 208 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,760 for having us mayor and City uh members 209 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,120 of the council it's good to be here and 210 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,000 thank you to the BFW and for the town of 211 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Pinetop Lakeside for always doing this 212 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,399 annually and recognizing uh the men and 213 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:19,640 women that serve as First Responders 214 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,399 throughout the community as we were 215 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:22,720 coming here tonight I was thinking about 216 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,560 all the different deputies and police 217 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,120 officers and firefighters we've honored 218 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,440 over the years coming here and it's 219 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 remarkable there truly is 220 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:37,120 a huge amount of of true heroes that serve us each and every day and uh 221 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,600 couldn't be happier to be here and to 222 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,519 celebrate them today so two or three 223 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,519 years ago we started uh as the Sheriff's 224 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:45,440 Office coming to City Council meetings 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,519 to give a brief presentation of an 226 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,959 update of kind of some of the um joint 227 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:54,120 operations or um task forces that we 228 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,839 work together with the cities we know 229 00:10:56,839 --> 00:10:58,680 that Public Safety is one of the more 230 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:00,360 expensive expensive items on each of 231 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,720 your budgets it's one of your more uh 232 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,720 critical items that I know the public SP 233 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,120 special attention to to include roads as 234 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,480 one of them as well but Public Safety is 235 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,880 something that's always on the Forefront 236 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,600 of each of our minds and it it does come 237 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,399 at a high cost and we as Public Safety 238 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:20,240 officials and leaders always come to uh 239 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,079 Boards of Supervisors City councils 240 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:23,839 asking for more and more and more and 241 00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:25,160 sometimes you have to have a little 242 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,440 justification as to why we need that 243 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,600 expensive equipment or what we're doing 244 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,839 and I know that the sheriff's off office 245 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:34,120 operates in and around and throughout 246 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,639 each of our communities within this 247 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:37,880 County and so I feel an obligation and a 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,600 duty to report back to you as well means 249 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,720 that we're operating within your city 250 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,760 and we're also operating on the 251 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,200 especially in Pint toop Lakeside where 252 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,160 it's so checkerboard but we're also 253 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,959 working with your Police Department each 254 00:11:49,959 --> 00:11:52,279 and every day trying to find ways not to 255 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:54,920 duplicate services but to try to uh 256 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,440 share resources and I see one of the big 257 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,200 successes of that has been the the 258 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,279 regional communication that is something 259 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,480 that dates back 10 years ago that we 260 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,959 tried to get accomplished and you saw 261 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,519 sholo really worked there and we're kind 262 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,639 of on the northern part but in part of 263 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:13,040 our presentation I wanted to share 264 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,360 tonight is how we've made a lot of 265 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,279 stride in the last two years um so last 266 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:21,360 year I came here and we talked about our 267 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 SRT team or our joint team how we're 268 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,760 working together on that we talked about 269 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,639 Communications we talked about criminal 270 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:29,880 investigations we talked about mcap 271 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,120 which we're going to give an update here 272 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,600 tonight and we talked about uh kind of 273 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,120 joint operations with traffic 274 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,920 enforcement those are kind of five areas 275 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:42,120 that we work with your Chief um trying 276 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,279 to do these things in in in 277 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:47,720 collaboration as as a uh as law 278 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,920 enforcement this year kind of some of 279 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,199 our Focus that I wanted to report on 280 00:12:52,199 --> 00:12:56,279 some some uh successes where we've made 281 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:59,839 some Headway um 282 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:03,680 we we have looked for ways to fund a lot 283 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:05,959 of these operations through the state or 284 00:13:05,959 --> 00:13:09,360 through different federal grants I know 285 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,079 that in my opening remarks we talk about 286 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:14,360 the cost the burden that this brings and 287 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,839 you guys have so many different uh 288 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:18,440 priorities that you're trying to weigh 289 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,880 and sometimes you're not able to to to fund these at the levels that we want 290 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,199 MCAT is one of those that is a it's a 291 00:13:27,199 --> 00:13:29,600 multi- agency Joint Task force it is 292 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,199 proactive work and sometimes a lot of 293 00:13:32,199 --> 00:13:34,600 our Chiefs and and the sheriff's office 294 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,880 we need to have deputies and officers 295 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,199 doing our calls for service our first 296 00:13:39,199 --> 00:13:43,480 responder work and these these uh kind 297 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 of these proactive task forces sometimes 298 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,480 are the ones that that get staffed last 299 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,399 and one of the things is we would like 300 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:52,320 to join those task forces if there was 301 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,880 funding or if there's vehicles or if 302 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,199 there's things that that make it um 303 00:13:56,199 --> 00:13:58,560 appealing for us financially to join 304 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:03,399 that that um this last year we as the 305 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,399 Arizona sheriff's Association lobbied at 306 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:07,240 the state legislature through the 307 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,240 governor's office to take the Bard what 308 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,800 governor Ducey started was a border 309 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Strike Force well with the change in 310 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,759 leadership that that was kind of going 311 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:18,360 to go away and we kind of said hey don't 312 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,079 throw out the baby with the bath water 313 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:22,720 right and so Governor Hobbs had 314 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,320 reallocated those funds through the 315 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,399 legislative uh process it was 316 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,120 appropriation that was where all the 317 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,920 counties were able 318 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,079 to um essentially apply for that and so 319 00:14:33,079 --> 00:14:35,720 we did a $1 million kind of Grant 320 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 application to receive those funds which 321 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,839 would now be sent to the county to work 322 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,199 and to fund mcap we used to do a lot of 323 00:14:44,199 --> 00:14:46,000 these fundings through burn Jag and 324 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,360 through asset forfeiture those things 325 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,240 have really changed and you're relying 326 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,519 on the federal government now we're 327 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,240 relying on the state and this not 328 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,639 relying on the state but we're asking 329 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:57,240 the state to help fund it with the 330 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,480 opioid crisis with the f all crisis with 331 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,800 the poorest border and we're seeing a 332 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,519 lot of these things that have an effect 333 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,639 on us you're seeing a lot of great work 334 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,720 that MCAT has been doing over the years 335 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,320 with their productivity and their 336 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,680 production what we've been able to 337 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,600 manage here locally we were able to ask 338 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,959 for $1 million Grant we we expect to to 339 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:19,959 receive that in full which those funds 340 00:15:19,959 --> 00:15:21,519 were going to be pushed each of our 341 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,759 municipalities as an opportunity where 342 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:25,399 they can put someone on the task force 343 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:28,800 up to 75% funded and so that's a 344 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,600 exciting opportunity that is essentially 345 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,199 two to three times more than what we've 346 00:15:34,199 --> 00:15:36,120 done in the past and that's something 347 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,360 that we as are looking to um be United 348 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,319 within the county that there's there's a 349 00:15:42,319 --> 00:15:43,639 great opportunity that's going to bring 350 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,160 additional services to your community um 351 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,639 the next thing on our Communications 352 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:50,920 with Pinetop Lakeside Joint Forces with 353 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,480 sholo we have been working with sholo to 354 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,440 make sure that we're not going in 355 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,240 different directions I'm not an expert 356 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 when it comes comes to VHF UHF LTE and 357 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,399 all these things but I'm learning it as 358 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:05,120 I'm going and we have people that speak 359 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,000 those languages and we got together with 360 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,160 your Chief and the City of scholo Chief 361 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 to say if you guys move this direction 362 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,319 we're going to move that direction vice 363 00:16:14,319 --> 00:16:17,000 versa that way our two centers Don't Go 364 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,120 in different directions and that way 365 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,120 that you as community members and 366 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,959 councils don't see any um variances 367 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:27,440 between how these operate and that when 368 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,639 someone calls 91 one I don't think they 369 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:31,199 care if it goes to Holbrook or if it 370 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,399 goes to sholo or how it gets there they 371 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:37,720 just need resources sent quickly right 372 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,600 and so that's what our Focus has been in 373 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,839 November the Navajo last year the Navajo 374 00:16:44,839 --> 00:16:47,600 County Sheriff's Office so part of that 375 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,160 conversation I'll just step back just 376 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,279 one part of that conversation was not 377 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:52,680 only do we have these centers but we 378 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,000 need to really up our infrastructure 379 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,120 sites we're operating on four tower 380 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,440 sites in our entire County we felt we 381 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,279 need to be looking at other models of 382 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:03,720 other counties we need to be around 15 383 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,959 or 16 18 20 sites Towers repeaters uh we 384 00:17:07,959 --> 00:17:10,559 needed better uh Portables better mobils 385 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,199 in our vehicles Navajo County Sheriff's 386 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:15,559 Office applied for a Dema Grant through 387 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:18,400 it's it's federal funds that were sent 388 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,720 uh or no they're from the state that 389 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,760 were sent to DEA that law enforcement 390 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,959 was able to apply for we applied the 391 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:26,439 Sheriff's Office on behalf of all uh law 392 00:17:26,439 --> 00:17:28,799 enforcement we received a $7 million 393 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:31,440 Grant and with that Grant we have P 394 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,880 we're purchasing radios for every police 395 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,200 officer in this County and we're 396 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,000 purchasing radio sites and and all that 397 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,840 so that we are taking uh the steps 398 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,000 forward with the city of sholo to ensure 399 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,080 that everybody's Communication in 400 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,600 everybody's vehicle fire and police and 401 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,120 Sheriff's is all talking on the same 402 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,000 language and uh that that is in the 403 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,240 works now the grant has been awarded and 404 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,080 it's this $5 million or it's a 5year $7 405 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,320 million 406 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,640 Grant and2 or3 million of those was 407 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,679 carved out for this for uh radio 408 00:18:08,679 --> 00:18:11,679 infrastructure um next thing three or 409 00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:14,360 four years ago we talked about a gel 410 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,440 District uh being implemented within 411 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,120 Navajo County that has been about 5 412 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:24,960 years that has been very 413 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,120 um what' you say it's put good 414 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,000 foundation and good structure to the 415 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,280 future of jail operations within this 416 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,400 County with that we in the last couple 417 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,799 years have gone outside of just looking 418 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:41,240 at detention costs medical costs and 419 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,400 feeding inmates and just doing those 420 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,960 routine mandatory obligations that we 421 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,240 have we're now looking at programs that 422 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,039 we're starting within the Jael to do 423 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,080 actual Rehabilitation or what we're 424 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,400 calling re-entry when we say re-entry 425 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,200 when people leave the facility and 426 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,000 re-enter Society 427 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,520 these are my neighbors these are your 428 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,000 neighbors they are being held 429 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,480 accountable and they're being booked in 430 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 for for crimes that they've committed 431 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,960 but while they're there we're finding 432 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,240 that a vast majority of these around 50% 433 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,600 it's a substance mental mental illness 434 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,720 or substance abuse type thing the other 435 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,360 half are serious crimes that they'll 436 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,840 probably end up spending DLC time but on 437 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,440 those ones that are shortterm going to 438 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,919 be re-entered we're looking to start two 439 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:26,720 where we are starting two programs one 440 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,640 for the this re-entry where they working 441 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,760 with the prosecutor's office where they 442 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,919 are going to be given um kind of 443 00:19:34,919 --> 00:19:38,280 diversion for for treatment and where 444 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,640 their accountability is not dismissed 445 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320 but it's in condition with receiving 446 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,000 treatment and then we're going to also 447 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,240 have in inhouse or in custody uh 448 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,679 substance abuse treatment that way when 449 00:19:52,679 --> 00:19:54,760 your cities and the cities within here 450 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,480 book them in within ril you're going to 451 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,760 get back hopefully a better better 452 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,720 citizen that's going to come back and um 453 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 with successes of not having as many 454 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 addicted to these drugs and hopefully 455 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,000 become a property owner taxpayer and 456 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,480 start contributing to society so that is 457 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,120 something that we're really excited 458 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,480 about because of that jail district and 459 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600 that we now have that stability in there 460 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,400 we now are applying for these grants 461 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,799 we're seeing great strides in what we 462 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:24,760 are uh in our jail 463 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,799 operations um touched on the regional 464 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:29,400 dispat and how that's moving along 465 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,600 coming in the same direction CI criminal 466 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,919 investigations you guys have had one of 467 00:20:34,919 --> 00:20:38,320 the best or not the best one of the 468 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,559 most prolific um Cold Case Sol solved 469 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:45,919 cases uh in recent history in this 470 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:50,120 County it was remarkable work that your Police Department did you you 471 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,360 should be extremely proud of that case 472 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:53,600 that they 473 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,400 did um criminal investigations is one of 474 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,080 the most critical aspects I look at each 475 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,320 of our our um our departments that is 476 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,919 where we're handling some of the more 477 00:21:04,919 --> 00:21:06,240 serious crimes we're looking at 478 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,080 30-year-old homicides like like we that 479 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,720 was dealing with here we're looking at 480 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 crimes against children we're looking at 481 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,919 um large dollar frauds we're looking at 482 00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:19,000 um suicides and all and essentially all 483 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,080 death investigations that we we need to 484 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,240 make sure we do it right and we don't 485 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,240 make any type of mistakes um and that's 486 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,320 where we as as a county have really 487 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,159 worked together we have what we call the 488 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:33,120 Navajo County homicide Task Force if we 489 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,679 have a critical incident we rely on each 490 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:37,440 of the communities or each of the cities 491 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720 to to come together to support one 492 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,799 another but it gets burdensome on a lot 493 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:43,120 of these smaller departments where 494 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,400 they're like I don't have the overtime 495 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,960 funds to send them there I don't have 496 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,960 the training for these types of things 497 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,760 and then vice versa when someone has to 498 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,400 come to our community and send ler 499 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,840 detective for a day or two it it's one 500 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,320 of those things it's it's hard to wait 501 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,840 but we always do what's what's best for 502 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,720 the 503 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,640 community so we had an appropriation 504 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,200 that now we've just received it for the 505 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,159 second year in a row we're receiving 506 00:22:05,159 --> 00:22:07,960 $120,000 each uh budget Year from the 507 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 state to go to these region there was 508 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,039 five Regional task force identified and 509 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,200 Navajo County was one of them because we 510 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,640 applied through it through the Sheriff's 511 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,320 Office that way when we ask for your 512 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,039 detectives to go to these type of 513 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:21,799 trainings or to to work with us that we 514 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:24,360 can help with not only the cost of the 515 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:26,919 overtime but with the training and the 516 00:22:26,919 --> 00:22:29,080 supplies and so those are ways that 517 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,919 we're looking for Solutions we're 518 00:22:30,919 --> 00:22:32,480 finding these funds in these three 519 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960 different areas that are really 520 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,159 hopefully going to to make a difference 521 00:22:37,159 --> 00:22:39,000 in our in our Public Safety and our 522 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,320 criminal justice going forward so with 523 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440 that I just want to give quick update on 524 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,880 those five things and then we had um 525 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,480 kind of our MCAT update we always do we 526 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,240 try to talk about specifically of the 527 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,360 type of crimes that we were working in 528 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,080 and around the Pint toop Lakeside area 529 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,600 and some of those statistical data is 530 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,360 okay he was going to give this part of 531 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,240 it but he's running late so I think you 532 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760 just may hold him in uh hold him in 533 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,799 contemp for something right but I'll go 534 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:08,919 ahead and do 535 00:23:08,919 --> 00:23:13,279 it um did it go where do I point it at 536 00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:15,520 this just try to point it at this 537 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,159 computer there you go yeah okay so these 538 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:22,840 are their 2022 annual uh statistics for 539 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,760 um 540 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,960 nav as you can see methamphetamine 541 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320 heroin and uh cocaine was one of the 542 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,720 more surprising things but these are in either in pounds or grams of of what 543 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,159 we sees you can see that fentanyl at 2.1 544 00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:43,919 million pills is the drug of choice 545 00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:46,200 throughout America in Arizona and in 546 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Navajo County it is it is overtaken what we're seeing being traffic what 547 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520 we're seeing on the streets um it has 548 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,520 the highest level potency you've seen 549 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,799 all the reports it's still 550 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:04,720 I think it was two years ago it Arizona does a uh threat assessment 551 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,960 on on the drug trafficing and and what heida um sees as as the biggest 552 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,400 threats to our communities and it was 553 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,039 methamphetamine held the top drug for at 554 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:18,880 least a decade it was two years ago that 555 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,039 fentanyl overcame that and it and it's 556 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:22,640 done it with quite the force and it's 557 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,799 something that we're we're certainly 558 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:26,200 concerned about and we're continued 559 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,520 because the numbers just keep Rising um everything else kind of seemed 560 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,600 to have plateaued but uh cocaine had 561 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,200 made a rise in the last year uh we 562 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320 conducted 68 search warrants throughout 563 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,480 this is mcap which is the regional task 564 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880 force that everybody uh participates 565 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,760 with and we they conducted 68 search 566 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,360 warrants countywide uh during that last 567 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,559 year um that was in 22 here in 23 you 568 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,440 can see that the fentanyl pills went 569 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,559 down by a million um lot of those lot of 570 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:01,760 those seizures are coming on the 571 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,279 interstate and 572 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:06,880 um we we would 573 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,360 attribute throughout Arizona the numbers 574 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,360 were still higher but our local seizures 575 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,320 just went down it's not that we're 576 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,480 seeing less coming through the state we 577 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760 just uh interdicted Less on on the 578 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,399 interstate and part of that would be 579 00:25:20,399 --> 00:25:22,279 that our deputies and our DET Texas 580 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,080 working in this TR task force were uh 581 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,200 instead of doing a lot of interdiction 582 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,720 work we're doing a lot of those search 583 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,159 warrants working uh working what we call 584 00:25:31,159 --> 00:25:32,960 drug trafficking organizations and 585 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,159 trying to to intercept those and 586 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:38,520 dismantle those um some of the 587 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,559 comparisons have kind of kind of the 588 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,880 trends stayed consistent throughout the 589 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,080 years but certainly methamphetamine or 590 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Methamphetamine and Fentanyl is is uh 591 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,240 the two highest uh 592 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,480 producers um M catar compared from 2022 593 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,600 to 2023 we we had 594 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,200 24 uh3 this year and or last year and 595 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,440 then 20 228 the year before so you 596 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,279 seeing our our arrests with this task 597 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,600 force have gone 598 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,559 up uh here's our agency assist broken 599 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,360 down uh between each agency and as you 600 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,559 can see in the pie chart uh they're 601 00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,799 assisting every agency uh in to include 602 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:24,320 Apache County um as they've become truly 603 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,840 one of the uh hardest hitting fastest re 604 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,559 acting groups within the the White 605 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,320 Mountains we're really proud of the work 606 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,360 that they've done and that that each of 607 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,000 these agencies rely or not rely on them 608 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960 but they depend on them and they really 609 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,440 use utilize their 610 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240 services 611 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:53,830 um why are you familiar with this this 612 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,600 one 613 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,120 yeah so back in April we uh had some 614 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,720 information that received from some of 615 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,279 our local agency 616 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,600 officers 617 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,760 with different subjects coming in and 618 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 have a hotel room in the sholo area 619 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320 within that we started looking into it 620 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,960 with our detectives with the assistance 621 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,360 of like DPS Arizona gang task force as 622 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,559 well through this mult multiple traffic 623 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,399 stops were made throughout sholo into 624 00:27:24,399 --> 00:27:26,720 snowflake Heber even up into pint top 625 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,200 that were all related to come in from 626 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,440 this room by the time we were done with 627 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,120 it uh we made the 19 arrest five search 628 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,120 warrants were actually served one of 629 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,320 them was actually served by Phoenix Drug 630 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,159 Enforcement Bureau with us on a Target 631 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,720 down in the valley that all tied into 632 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,880 this 633 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,519 area this is also part of a couple 634 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,039 people that we have actually arrested 635 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,039 two to three times not just only our 636 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:52,360 task force but shd Pine Top Lakeside 637 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,720 police officers so it's one of one of 638 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,960 them and we've actually just got a 639 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,399 sentence in both two of the suspects 640 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:00,679 Reed 5 years prison time out of it so 641 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:03,200 that's been really 642 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,679 good thank 643 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:07,640 you 644 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,960 um here we have a 645 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,279 couple those yeah remember these so we 646 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:16,120 have one detective that's actually a 647 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,279 full-time Task Force officer assigned to 648 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,760 Homeland Security out of Flag Staff um 649 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,919 they received a lot of multiple tips 650 00:28:22,919 --> 00:28:25,000 regarding sex offenses throughout the 651 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,120 state um our officers that's assigned to 652 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,519 that he actually this tip came in 653 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:34,080 and received information of a bunch of 654 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,279 sexually explicit material involving a 655 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,399 CH child um he called me directly we 656 00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:41,919 started working it with Homeland 657 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:44,399 Security same day that we had the tip we 658 00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:47,519 had suspect in custody did three search 659 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:50,080 warrants on the house two houses one on 660 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,039 a vehicle was able to get the suspect in 661 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,080 custody who was working at a local 662 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,519 business um speaking with County 663 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,320 attorneys I mean there're so far at up 664 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,120 11 counts of the exploitation uh sexual 665 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,039 exploitation of a minor photographs um 666 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,679 there is still information going on 667 00:29:08,679 --> 00:29:11,000 Investigation to further into this which 668 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,720 could lead to more charges so basically 669 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,519 our mkat team is not only just looking 670 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:19,320 at our dope stuff if it's a major crime 671 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,120 we get information on we kind of run 672 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,000 with it also in August uh wisell police 673 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,039 department called us and said hey we've 674 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,440 got a bunch of string of burglaries in 675 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,799 there air where one of them is actually 676 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,440 a robbery guy walks into a Circle K just 677 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,120 walks in there with a knife starts just 678 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,000 loading alcohol cigarettes and walks out 679 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,360 with about $4,000 worth of product um we 680 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,080 was able to identify who the guy was 681 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,840 which was also one of our targets we are 682 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,080 looking at for some drug sales So within 683 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200 24 hours we did a search warrant on the 684 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,559 residence and recovered probably 50 to 685 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,760 60% of the property and located uh 686 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320 stolen firearm along with some some 687 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,559 drugs out of it so it was a really good 688 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,440 partnership with all all the agencies on 689 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720 any of these cases because part with 690 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,360 just our little task force there's 691 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360 usually three s or three detectives one 692 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Sergeant working most of it we can't do 693 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,120 it without the help of our local agency 694 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,360 even the patrol officers just because of 695 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,799 Manpower and the time it's been really 696 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:26,230 beneficial thank 697 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,480 you yeah this one we speaking of Jael 698 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,799 operations we had an overdose you know 699 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,799 fentanyl is is smuggled into everywhere 700 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,000 we had a we had an individual who was 701 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440 remanded in court and was sent or was 702 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960 sent you know uh to jail and he had 703 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,679 smuggled in couple pills in his shoes 704 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:48,000 that was missed during the search he had 705 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,039 transferred one to his uh cmate who 706 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:54,640 started overdose that's why these 707 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,360 deputies are recognized for their life- 708 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,960 saving measures they performed CPR 709 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,480 revive them but MCAT was called in to do 710 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,519 an investigation to find out who he was 711 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:05,240 who brought him in and where they did 712 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,600 that with that information they were 713 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,320 able to go back to the residents 714 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,480 intercept a lot of gun stolen guns uh 715 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,320 fent andol that was still in the home 716 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,080 that led to several arrests from that so 717 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,120 uh even though we took one tragic 718 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,279 scenario that occurred in the jail these uh this great team was able to uh 719 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,960 further that and uh bring uh several 720 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,600 others that were contributing this to 721 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,919 Justice um with that those are just a 722 00:31:32,919 --> 00:31:34,960 couple of the snapshots of of of the 723 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,880 operations that we're doing here in 724 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880 Navajo County but of course uh open up 725 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,639 to any questions if you have any if not 726 00:31:40,639 --> 00:31:41,960 I just want to thank you again for your 727 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,919 time thank you for the the uh 728 00:31:44,919 --> 00:31:47,039 partnership and the work that we work in 729 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,799 working with your city and uh the great 730 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:51,799 uh Chief and and command sta that you 731 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,600 have at the city of pintop that uh work 732 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,720 diligently uh to ensure that Public 733 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Safety is is it uh is a priority within 734 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,480 this community and we couldn't uh we 735 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,360 enjoy working with them and and being 736 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Partners in that in that mission each 737 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360 and every day so thank you sheriff and 738 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,519 Wy appreciate those updates um it's just 739 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:12,600 amazing kind of scary in our little 740 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440 small towns we would think that we were 741 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,760 to this but I think you have your head 742 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,799 in a sand if you continue to think that 743 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,480 um any other questions or comments that 744 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,320 was a great report councelor Craig bomb 745 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,880 do you have anything you'd like to 746 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,320 add no thank you and we appreciate all 747 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,120 the work that you're doing to obtain 748 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240 those grants um we all know how precious 749 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,559 the dollar is and we need to to keep 750 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,000 working on so thank you sheriff wely for 751 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,799 coming tonight yes yes thank you yes 752 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,559 appreciate you very 753 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,039 much we'll then go ahead and move on to 754 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,120 item D4 which is consider approval of 755 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,960 resolution Number 24- 1700 authorizing a 756 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,000 call of election for the town of pintop 757 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,679 Lakeside 2024 primary and general 758 00:32:56,679 --> 00:32:57,840 election 759 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Christie this one is you yes good 760 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840 evening mayor and Council I am going to 761 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,639 get back over to the correct screen here 762 00:33:05,639 --> 00:33:07,600 um so this resolution is for the call of 763 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080 election for the primary election and if 764 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,399 needed the general election I just want 765 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:13,799 to give a little bit of background 766 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,440 because um as of Friday February 767 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,679 9th um the governor signed House Bill 768 00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:25,320 2785 which changed the primary election 769 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200 by one week it moved it one week earlier 770 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,960 the reason for the change in that um 771 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,039 date is in 2022 a bill was signed that 772 00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,720 changed the the percentage of ballots 773 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,080 that could be challenged for a recount 774 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,960 from 0.1 to5 so with the increase they 775 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,320 say it could take longer there's going 776 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,360 to be it could possibly cause more 777 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,919 recounts so in order to give them enough 778 00:33:52,919 --> 00:33:55,159 time to get the ballots counted so that 779 00:33:55,159 --> 00:33:56,679 they do count in the election they had 780 00:33:56,679 --> 00:33:58,399 to ch change it by a week this could be 781 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:00,559 a permanent thing is what they're saying 782 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,519 it's not just for the primary election 783 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,639 this year it could be for the ones 784 00:34:04,639 --> 00:34:06,679 oncoming um this doesn't affect the 785 00:34:06,679 --> 00:34:10,440 general election but um there was a 786 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,119 possibility that if that didn't get 787 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,200 changed none of Arizona's votes would 788 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,240 have counted at all so they moved that 789 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:21,000 to July 30th um for those candidates 790 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,119 that picked up petitions and had 791 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,639 signatures before the change which it 792 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:27,599 was effective on the 9th I think I said 793 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,919 that but um if the petition said that 794 00:34:30,919 --> 00:34:32,639 they were signing for an August 6th 795 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,639 election they're letting us go ahead and 796 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,280 take those petitions because it was 797 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,200 changed after that was signed by 798 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,599 legislator after and then um as of the 799 00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,720 9th every petition needs to state that 800 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:46,839 the election is July 30th and they'll 801 00:34:46,839 --> 00:34:50,879 all be accepted um we have three four 802 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:54,200 year seats um and one twoyear seat on 803 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040 this election um council member Craig 804 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,040 bomb council member snitzer council 805 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,640 member Smith their their seats are up so 806 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,359 those will be for fouryear seats and 807 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:05,160 then Jeff Phillips who was recently 808 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,599 appointed it was finishing out a term 809 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,119 when council member Brimhall left and 810 00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:11,480 that will be a two there will be two 811 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,960 years left on that term after this 812 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,720 election so we'll have four seats in the 813 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,160 primary election um if all four seats 814 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,560 get 815 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160 um uh majority votes then we won't have 816 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,640 to take it to the general but the we're 817 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,839 going to go ahead and just add the 818 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:29,280 general and the and the primary 819 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,079 elections together into this call of 820 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,560 election is there any questions on that 821 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,359 any questions for 822 00:35:36,359 --> 00:35:38,240 Christie thank you for explaining all 823 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,960 that that was a little bit confusing 824 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,960 when the state did that to us I think 825 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000 yes yeah so do I have a motion vice 826 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,400 mayor I move to approve resolution 827 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,359 number 828 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:51,839 24-17 authorizing the call of election 829 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:53,240 for the town's 830 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:56,000 2024 primary election to be held on July 831 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,240 30th 20 24 and the general election if 832 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,200 needed being held on November 5th 833 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,839 2024 I'll second that thank you we have 834 00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:08,200 a motion a second is there any further 835 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480 discussion all in favor please signify 836 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,800 by raising your right 837 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,200 hand councelor Craig 838 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560 bomb I thank you that carries 839 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,200 unanimously um there being no further 840 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,920 business um I will adjourn our regular 841 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,720 council meeting thank 842 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,359 you can you give me one second mayor I 843 00:36:28,359 --> 00:36:40,470 went to switch my recorders okay thank 844 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:47,630 you I need to get to my agenda too 845 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,000 so okay whenever you're ready okay hang 846 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319 on a minute I need to get to my okay we 847 00:36:52,319 --> 00:36:55,670 don't have to figure all this out 848 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,480 anymore 849 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,960 okay I will call the board of adjustment 850 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,480 meeting to order this evening um we do 851 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,839 have a quorum again counselor board 852 00:37:04,839 --> 00:37:07,520 member um cck bomb is on the phone with 853 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,200 us 854 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,760 today um this is a business meeting of 855 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,160 the board of 856 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,960 adjustment the board welcomes values and 857 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,920 welcomes public input pleas please 858 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,640 address us as a whole and not individual 859 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,520 board members do not address staff or 860 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,760 members of the audience action on 861 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Council excuse me board action on items 862 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,560 brought up in call to the public is 863 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,240 limited by the open meeting law the 864 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,119 board may direct staff to study the 865 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,599 matter and reschedule for further 866 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,319 consideration later date items on the 867 00:37:38,319 --> 00:37:40,000 agenda will not be heard or discussed 868 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,480 and call to the public and individuals 869 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,680 are limited to three minutes of the 870 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,119 board of adjustments special meeting 871 00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,480 held on November 2nd 872 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,800 202 thank you we have a motion of second 873 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160 further discussion all in favor please 874 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680 raise your right hand announced by the 875 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040 mayor and explained by staff any citizen 876 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,990 who additional use permit 877 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,880 Cup this item is the second time you've 878 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440 seen this item it was previously for 879 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,640 your consideration in November Alpha 880 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,599 this location is a neutral 881 00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:16,109 site 882 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,760 106.2 and it's Light commercial zoning 883 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960 District the applicant 884 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,800 must 17106 885 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,440 020b the commission unanimously voted 886 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,000 to deny the issuance of a cup the board 887 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800 of adjustment convened November 2nd 2023 888 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000 consider an appeal to the denial of cup 889 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,640 133 the applicant requested a 90-day 890 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,760 extension to allow for the the 891 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,589 exploration of an alternative location 892 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,400 for the applicant uh failed to appeal 893 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640 within a lot of 894 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,400 time a tower with a maximum height of 75 895 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,560 ft or the height of the tree line ft but 896 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,160 in no case greater than 95 ft per 897 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,599 171 898 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:04,560 is permitted under the existing zoning 899 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640 with a conditional use permit however 900 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,040 the 901 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,119 height 1T with 5ot lightning rod hence 902 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:16,400 the requested tower height of 180 ft 903 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160 Maxum the applicant proposes four Tech 904 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,710 lights on the 905 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,440 on for 906 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,839 17163 0 D the lighting is only 907 00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:31,240 permissible for by the FAA FCC or 908 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,400 another governmental agency all lighting 909 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560 must be in conformance with 910 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440 17 vertical Bridge proposes to remove an 911 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,400 existing 8ft fence around the Western 912 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,240 perimeter of parcel fences over 6 ft are 913 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,880 only permitted as a conditional use 914 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,000 permit condition per 17108 915 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,200 06082 the board of adjustment could 916 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,200 require an 8ft tall fence as a condition 917 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640 of approval is recommended that an 8ft 918 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,599 CMU block wall be utilized for screening 919 00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,200 the Landscaping plan has yet to be 920 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880 submitted as part of the application for 921 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,119 17106 030 F4F Landscaping shall mitigate 922 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,040 the visual impact of a wireless 923 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,920 communication facility and ancillary 924 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,280 structures Evergreen plant material of a 925 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,240 minimum height of 5 ft shall be planted 926 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,319 adjacent to the exteria of any wall or a 927 00:40:16,319 --> 00:40:18,200 fence at least every 10 ft from Center 928 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,880 to Center the community development 929 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,000 director or the Planning and Zoning 930 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,480 commission or in this case the board of 931 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,359 adjustment May W or reduce these 932 00:40:24,359 --> 00:40:26,400 Landscaping requirements if it is deemed 933 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,319 unnecessary or impracticable to provide 934 00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:33,720 necessary screen for 17106 030 f4c 935 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,440 simulated branches must taper toward the 936 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,200 top of the tower to give the appearance 937 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,480 of a natural conically shaped evergreen 938 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,319 tree the submitted Tower elevation does 939 00:40:41,319 --> 00:40:42,800 not demonstrate conformance to this 940 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,680 requirement as it does not taper to give 941 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,920 the appearance of a natural conically 942 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,560 shaped evergreen tree but instead is a 943 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,599 cylindrical shape some other things to 944 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,280 consider um include General requirements 945 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,839 outlined in 17106 030 F which requires 946 00:40:57,839 --> 00:40:59,440 wireless communication facilities to be 947 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,000 cited and constructed preserve the 948 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,839 pre-existing character surrounding 949 00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:04,760 buildings of vegetation while this site 950 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,280 is neutral is immediately adjacent to 951 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,480 the RV part most jurisdictions require a 952 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,200 minimum of one to one setback in the 953 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,760 event of catastrophic failure of a tower 954 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,440 until recently we only required a fall 955 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520 zone letter the fall zone letter stated 956 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,079 multiple times that it cannot guarantee 957 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,760 the tower would fall within the 20ft 958 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040 fall zone radius which states which 959 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,880 statements such as it will like 960 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920 do and so uh and a best attempt to meet 961 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,079 the requirements given that current 962 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,520 codes do not address failure mechanics 963 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,040 is impossible to predict the behavior of 964 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680 a failing structure the fall zone 965 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,079 require the applicant to submit 966 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,440 additional information to provide 967 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,359 further justification if they believe it 968 00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,119 is necessary or appropriate any existing 969 00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,720 Tower could accommodate the tower um 970 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,280 excuse me an existing Tower could 971 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,480 accommodate the tower within 6 t0 of a 972 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,560 mile if the proposal progresses with 973 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,680 approval there will be likely there is a 974 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,040 likelihood that there could be three 975 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,880 towers within this area including the 976 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,560 existing and the proposed from Tower 977 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,839 from Pine Top fire P 17 978 00:42:04,839 --> 00:42:08,319 10608 D coordination with federal law a 979 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:09,760 conditional use permit may be granted 980 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,079 despite non-compliance with the 981 00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:12,599 provisions of this section whenever 982 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:14,480 denial of a conditional use permit would 983 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,000 unreasonably discriminate among 984 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,720 providers of a functionally equivalent 985 00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,040 personal wireless service or prohibit or 986 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960 have the effect of prohibiting provision 987 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,240 of personal Wireless services within the 988 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,880 meaning of 47 United States code section 989 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,319 332 990 00:42:29,319 --> 00:42:32,880 c7b I in evaluating an application for a 991 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,880 conditional use permit no consideration 992 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,280 shall be given to the environmental 993 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,040 effects of radio frequency emissions to 994 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,000 the extent that such emissions follow 995 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,200 the regulations of the Federal 996 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,160 Communications commissions as provided 997 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,680 in 47 United States code section 332 C7 998 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,079 B4 for an annalysis have provided for 999 00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:52,480 the board of adjustment the following 1000 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520 the applicant vertical Bridge request to 1001 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,400 have a conditional use permit issued for 1002 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,599 a cell tower on August 24th 2023 the 1003 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:00,720 Planning and Zoning commission 1004 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,160 unanimously six to nothing denied the 1005 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,880 issuance of the conditional use permit 1006 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480 the reasons for the denial are as 1007 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,839 follows the applicant failed to provide 1008 00:43:08,839 --> 00:43:10,559 engineering report sealed by a licensed 1009 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,309 structural engineer for 1010 00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:18,000 17167 1cd the applicant failed to show 1011 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,760 all preferred sites where the tower 1012 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,800 could be cited P 17106 1013 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,079 7b1 the applicant failed to provide 1014 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:26,720 written explanation of why they did not 1015 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,640 select a preferred site including their 1016 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,599 best efforts made to secure each of the 1017 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:32,559 preferred sites why such efforts were 1018 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,119 unsuccessful and why each of the 1019 00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:35,559 preferred sites is not technically or 1020 00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:40,119 legally feasible for 17106 70b do3 the 1021 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:41,680 applicant proposed Tech lights on the 1022 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,240 tower for installing new apperances 1023 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,520 however no artificial lighting of 1024 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,960 wireless communication facilities is 1025 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,559 permitted unless such artificial 1026 00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,480 lighting is required by the FAA or the 1027 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,760 FCC or another state or federal agency 1028 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,520 of competent jurisdiction or NE or 1029 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,599 necessary for security such lighting 1030 00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:58,880 shall comply with the lighting 1031 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,559 regulations found in section 17141 100 1032 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:04,079 the applicant failed to locate the 1033 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:05,599 wireless communication facility away 1034 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,520 from residential neighborhoods whenever 1035 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,720 feasible per 17106 do10 1036 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,040 B while the applicant proposes to 1037 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,680 camouflage the site the camouflage must 1038 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,640 taper toward the top and the tower shall 1039 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,040 be painted to emulate a natural tree 1040 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,280 trunk per 1041 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,480 17163 F4 CND D and finally uh under the 1042 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,559 effective or orance 1043 00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,160 24468 the tower would require 225 ft 1044 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,319 setback per 1045 00:44:33,319 --> 00:44:36,599 17164 two for my recommendations I 1046 00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:38,839 provide the following staff recommends 1047 00:44:38,839 --> 00:44:40,720 denying the cup for the following 1048 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,480 reasons proposed Tower's height is 180 1049 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,559 ft a maximum height of 75 ft is 1050 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,720 allowable and in no case greater than 95 1051 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:49,680 ft in the site designated as 1052 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,880 neutral applicant must submit evidence 1053 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,720 of meeting the requirements established 1054 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,880 was within 17106 70 B3 regarding contact 1055 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,319 with all other Tower providers and 1056 00:44:59,319 --> 00:45:01,599 Property Owners within preferred sites 1057 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,359 the applicant failed to submit a fall 1058 00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,200 zone letter that exemplifies confidence 1059 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,000 that the tower would not harm residents 1060 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,079 in the RV Park in the event of a 1061 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,319 catastrophic failure the applicant 1062 00:45:11,319 --> 00:45:13,040 failed to locate the side away from the 1063 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,520 residential neighborhood for 17106 10B 1064 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,960 the applicant should have considered the 1065 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,760 requirements outlined in 17106 30f 1066 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,200 requiring Wireless communication 1067 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,119 facilities to be cited and constructed 1068 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:25,680 to preserve the pre-existing character 1069 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,800 of the surrounding buildings and 1070 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,240 vegetation while this is a neutral uh 1071 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,040 site it is immediately adjacent to an RV 1072 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,040 park a landscaping plan conforming with 1073 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,559 17130 F4 still needs to be submitted 1074 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,319 Tech lighting does not me meet the 1075 00:45:39,319 --> 00:45:41,640 requirements established within 17141 1076 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,400 100 and 17106 030 D the effective 1077 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520 setbacks cannot be met at the site per 1078 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,319 17106 1079 00:45:49,319 --> 00:45:51,760 42 if the board of adjustment chooses to 1080 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,839 uphold denial the motion must contain 1081 00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:55,720 the reasons for the denial which shall 1082 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:57,480 be supported by substantial evidence in 1083 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,510 the written 1084 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,160 record that's all for for now for my 1085 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,920 staff report thank you Jeremiah 1086 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,599 put need a towel or 1087 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,800 something need to drink water yeah 1088 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,839 anyway okay thank you Jeremiah are there 1089 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:17,800 any questions currently for 1090 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,440 Jeremiah um councilor Craig bomb do you 1091 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,680 have any 1092 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,440 questions no May when thank you 1093 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,400 um I would like to hear from the 1094 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,960 applicant at this time if you'd come up 1095 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,839 and and remind us your name and 1096 00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:32,880 everything 1097 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,200 please thank you for having us here 1098 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,480 today myself Shannon McCrae State 48 1099 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,960 development Consulting on behalf of 1100 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,280 vertical bridge and Stephen Kennedy the 1101 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,119 RF engineer will be presenting um on 1102 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,440 behalf of vertical bridge for this 1103 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,309 Wireless 1104 00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:52,359 facility um so 1105 00:46:52,359 --> 00:46:55,599 whenever there thank you um so today 1106 00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,119 we're we going to be going over the new 1107 00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,079 proposed Wireless facility on behalf of 1108 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:02,839 vertical Bridge the site name is usaz 1109 00:47:02,839 --> 00:47:06,950 5121 this is cup 1110 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,920 133 so the proposed Wireless facility 1111 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,960 will be located on parcel 1112 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,720 41143 1113 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:17,160 008a um and as mentioned by staff it's 1114 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160 on a parcel Zone 1115 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,800 C1 it will be designed as a monopine to 1116 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,599 blend in with the surrounding pine trees 1117 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,559 in the area and will be located within a 1118 00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:30,319 43x 37 ft enclosure surrounded by an 8T 1119 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:32,680 High chain link fence compound the 1120 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040 overall height of the tower will be 180 1121 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,880 ft which will allow for collocation and 1122 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,160 may include multiple antennas as shown 1123 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,839 on a later slide with the elevations and 1124 00:47:42,839 --> 00:47:45,160 we did design the Tower with a 20ft fall 1125 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,960 radius to contain debris on 1126 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,559 site so here is just a an aerial view of 1127 00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,359 the overall site plan as you can see 1128 00:47:54,359 --> 00:47:56,599 that square that's on the screen there 1129 00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,640 that just shows where the tower is in 1130 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,950 proximity to the parcel 1131 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,000 lines here is an enlarged site plan this 1132 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,240 shows the 10x15 concrete pad for 1133 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,760 Associated ground equipment the 4x9 1134 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,880 concrete pad for the Emergency backup 1135 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,880 generator and um it we would like to 1136 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,240 note for the record that emergency 1137 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:17,920 backup generators will cycle once per 1138 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,480 week for a total of 15 minutes and omit 1139 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,440 a noise of around 70 to 90 DB which is 1140 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,839 about the equivalent of a car are 1141 00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,480 passing 1142 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,720 by so on the screen here you can see the 1143 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,160 elevations of the tower um the initial 1144 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480 anchor tenant would be installed at that 1145 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,480 top there you can see that um and that 1146 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,880 is just the rad is basically the center 1147 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,000 of antennas where it will be installed 1148 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,599 on the tower let me go ahead and pull 1149 00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:50,680 those up here so T-Mobile is the initial 1150 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,440 inchor tenant uh they will be installed 1151 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,119 at a rout of 171 ft the second Co cator 1152 00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:59,359 would be installed at a rout of 159 ft 1153 00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,079 and the third collator would be 1154 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:04,359 installed at a rout of 147 1155 00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:06,880 ft there's additional views of the 1156 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160 elevation of the 1157 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,640 Tower so stealth designs um per the Pine 1158 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,040 Top code it encourages stealth designs 1159 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,920 to blend in with the surrounding area um 1160 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,960 as such vertical Bridge decided that a 1161 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,400 monopine would best suit this area a 1162 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,799 monopine is is a tower that's designed 1163 00:49:26,799 --> 00:49:29,079 to look like a pine tree um this photo 1164 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,079 on the right is not a photo from this 1165 00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:33,760 specific area but from a different Tower 1166 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,960 as you can see in the back um the 1167 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,880 monopine kind of Blends in with the 1168 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,349 surrounding pine trees 1169 00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:45,640 um uh so the fall zone uh the Pinetop 1170 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,640 Lakeside town code under chap chapter 1171 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,760 17106 stated that the applicant must 1172 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,119 provide a certified letter from a 1173 00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,280 structural engineer showing that the 1174 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,319 structural fa failure characteristics of 1175 00:49:59,319 --> 00:50:01,559 the wireless communication facility and 1176 00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:03,680 demonstration that site and setbacks are 1177 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,839 adequate to contain debris on site um at 1178 00:50:06,839 --> 00:50:10,240 the time of submitt this was the code it 1179 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,760 is vertical Bridges position that as 1180 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,520 such since it was submitted under this 1181 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,440 code and because the application was 1182 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,319 active that the old code applies to our 1183 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:24,400 site um we did provide a 20 foot fall 1184 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,440 zone letter to the jurisdiction um and 1185 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,680 on the next SL this is just a photo of 1186 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,680 that fall 1187 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160 letter so to review preferred sites 1188 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,880 neutral sites and disfavored sites I 1189 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,559 won't go through all of the details but 1190 00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:41,880 preferred sites would include the fire 1191 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,680 station uh across the street and then 1192 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,880 neutral sites is any site Zone C1 PUD or 1193 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,960 r 1194 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,069 l disfavored sites would be residential 1195 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:56,160 neighborhoods so 1196 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,079 I'll go ahead and Skip just to this one 1197 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,200 but as you can see on the zoning map 1198 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,640 here the star the green star on the 1199 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,000 slide indicates where our proposed site 1200 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,040 is located it's located on a parcel Zone 1201 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,960 C1 which is listed as a neutral site um 1202 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,799 our low is also listed as a neutral site 1203 00:51:14,799 --> 00:51:17,480 per the code and that RV park is just 1204 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,640 North of our site there located on R so 1205 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,359 it's that's just an aerial view 1206 00:51:24,359 --> 00:51:29,190 there 1207 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,799 back um okay so I will go ahead and let 1208 00:51:31,799 --> 00:51:33,799 the RF engineer who is here speak to the 1209 00:51:33,799 --> 00:51:37,359 significant Gap in service um but the 1210 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:40,280 site is uh the only preferred option 1211 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,680 would be the fire station that was 1212 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200 approximately 500 ft away I know we had 1213 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,200 at our last hearing requested an 1214 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,640 extension to look into the fire 1215 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,160 department but ultimately um it did not 1216 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,400 work for T-Mobile which is is why we're 1217 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,359 back here 1218 00:51:54,359 --> 00:51:59,309 today 1219 00:51:59,319 --> 00:52:00,799 and then this is just an aerial view of 1220 00:52:00,799 --> 00:52:03,829 the proposed 1221 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:07,440 site uh the 5year facilities plan it was 1222 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,319 stated that that was not included with 1223 00:52:09,319 --> 00:52:11,079 our application and we just would like 1224 00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:13,799 to state that we did include that um 1225 00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:16,880 which had a site inventory and the 1226 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,599 technologies that would be included on 1227 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:22,480 the tower um and then we did have a note 1228 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,400 that stated that there were no existing 1229 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,440 Tower T-Mobile Towers or vertical Bridge 1230 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,950 Wireless facilities within the 1231 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,799 jurisdiction that that's just a photo of 1232 00:52:32,799 --> 00:52:37,190 the 5year facilities 1233 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,640 plan and then the Pinetop Lakeside code 1234 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,160 does encourage collocation we did 1235 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,359 explore the option of collocating on 1236 00:52:44,359 --> 00:52:47,200 nearby structures um and he'll go ahead 1237 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,520 and deep dive into that a little further 1238 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,000 but we did determine that this area had 1239 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,599 the highest need for improved coverage 1240 00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,839 in the area and the additional height of 1241 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,720 the tower beyond the prescribed limit in 1242 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,359 the code was necessary to achieve the 1243 00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:02,839 coverage objective that the initial 1244 00:53:02,839 --> 00:53:05,079 inchor tenant was looking to achieve um 1245 00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,359 I'll go ahead and hand the presentation 1246 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:09,599 over to our RF engineer stepen Kennedy 1247 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,200 to go over those coverage maps and then 1248 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,440 if you have any questions feel free to 1249 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,960 let us thank 1250 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,640 you uh Stephen Kennedy I'm the owner of 1251 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,520 B wab coast Consultants out of Arizona 1252 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,280 I've got 34 years design experience in 1253 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,599 the Wireless Communications industry um 1254 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:29,640 can you bring up the RF 1255 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:39,750 justification 1256 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,119 deck that's the alternate side analysis 1257 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:46,950 try the other 1258 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,990 deck 1259 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,760 okay thank you 1260 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,680 ma'am okay once again um talking about 1261 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,160 the RF design analysis for the T-Mobile 1262 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,200 site for vertical Bridge so I'm an 1263 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,000 independent Consulting RF engineer I do 1264 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,240 not work for T-Mobile I represent 1265 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,400 vertical bridge and consult with the 1266 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,990 T-Mobile 1267 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,520 Engineers okay so two reasons why 1268 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,559 carriers design sites as your Sheriff 1269 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:17,119 stood up in front of you a little while 1270 00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:18,799 ago and said that their four sites need 1271 00:54:18,799 --> 00:54:22,960 to be about 20 it's infrastructure but 1272 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,160 the need is there so just like the 1273 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,720 sheriff's department wants to expand the 1274 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,119 radio network for First Responders the 1275 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:30,640 carriers want to expand their networks 1276 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,599 to provide service for their customers 1277 00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:34,960 two types of things that create a need 1278 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,280 for a site one is coverage and that is 1279 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,240 the ability for a transceiver on a sell 1280 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,319 site to talk to the transceiver in the 1281 00:54:41,319 --> 00:54:43,680 phone and have a connection and be able 1282 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,280 to follow through that connection 1283 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,480 without a drop call or without a loss of 1284 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,200 signal that's coverage capacity is the 1285 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,640 ability to process the traffic for the 1286 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,240 wireless phones now when I started this 1287 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:56,520 business 34 years ago all you could do 1288 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,559 on a phone was talk now we do a lot more 1289 00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,520 with them we stream videos we do web 1290 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,520 searches there's apps like crazy on 1291 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,240 these things that cost capacity that 1292 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,599 cost throughput capacity and throughput 1293 00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,000 or capacity can be explained um use an 1294 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,440 analogy of a water hose so if you have a 1295 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,799 water hose in your front yard you're out 1296 00:55:15,799 --> 00:55:18,040 work in front yard one day you're the 1297 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,559 only person drinking from the water hose 1298 00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:21,720 you're getting 100% of the capacity all 1299 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,680 the bandwidth is available to you if 1300 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,119 your neighbor walks up and says hey I 1301 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,480 want to grab water off the water hose 1302 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,640 too now the capacity is 1303 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,440 50% you add two more neighbors drops to 1304 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,200 25% four more neighbors it drops to 12 1305 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,720 half% down down down so the more users 1306 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,440 the less water or capacity per user 1307 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,079 there is these sites can work three to 1308 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,720 400 users at a time because these phones 1309 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,799 while you may not be active on the phone 1310 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:50,799 it's active talking to servers and 1311 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:52,680 networks because of all the apps you're 1312 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,640 running on your phone so that's the 1313 00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:00,029 capacity the 1314 00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:02,200 impact all right so the objective new 1315 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,640 site is provide bandwidth for customers 1316 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,000 in the area provide coverage for 1317 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,559 T-Mobile users in this area because 1318 00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:09,119 there's no T-Mobile coverage at this 1319 00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:10,960 time so this site would provide coverage 1320 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,960 along 260 in the feder roads in the area 1321 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,599 where we have a significant Gap in 1322 00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,880 service or no service 96% of Americans 1323 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,359 own a cell phone 57% of American homes 1324 00:56:20,359 --> 00:56:23,200 rely exclusively on cell phones and 84% 1325 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,599 or more of 911 emergency calls are made 1326 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:32,510 from cell 1327 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,280 phones uh site 175t monopine with 5ft 1328 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,160 apperances all that's all the technical 1329 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,599 data latitude longitude ground elevation 1330 00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:41,960 and the antenna center line for 1331 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,520 T-Mobile's 1332 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,160 171 why here lack of coverage in Pine 1333 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640 Top lack of services in surrounding R 1334 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,440 suburban and rural areas there's a 1335 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,599 significant Gap in service IE T-Mobile 1336 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,000 has no service in the area uh there's a 1337 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,400 been a significant amount of increased 1338 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,200 Network use for all the networks across 1339 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,920 rural Arizona just because of Co and a 1340 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,480 lot of people working from home and 1341 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,119 that's really put Demand on a lot of 1342 00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:06,000 these networks and as you guys probably 1343 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,039 are proving new homes being built and 1344 00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:10,079 all sorts of fun stuff it's it's 1345 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,640 expanding in the rural areas here's 1346 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,359 Zumer proposed 1347 00:57:14,359 --> 00:57:16,799 site uh there's the nearest neighbor 1348 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:19,640 T-Mobile sites they're 53.5 miles away 1349 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,359 and 63.7 miles away so uh T-Mobile's 1350 00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,400 working to expand that but this is one 1351 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,559 of the the key sites for that this is 1352 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,640 T-Mobile cell mapper this is coverage 1353 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,119 that's provided by drive test units or 1354 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:34,880 uh vans that drive around and they take 1355 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,760 readings across the United States and 1356 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,240 they they have a bunch of antennas on 1357 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,839 the top of Van bunch of phones and 1358 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:41,520 they'll go take readings and report this 1359 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,039 back to servers this is showing that 1360 00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,559 there is nothing for T-Mobile in the 1361 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,119 area basically not even enough to to 1362 00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,640 cause a receiver to go into full 1363 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,880 quieting this is open signal this is uh 1364 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,359 um so if you ever load an app on your 1365 00:57:56,359 --> 00:57:57,960 phone like Facebook or something you're 1366 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,400 giving all these permissions for 1367 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,680 Facebook to load this stuff on your 1368 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,039 phone you're going to load a thin client 1369 00:58:03,039 --> 00:58:04,799 and that's open signals Thin Client what 1370 00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:07,920 that Thin Client does is it sends to 1371 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,039 open signal servers hey the telephone 1372 00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:12,599 connected to the network that did some 1373 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:14,680 business and the coverage was good or 1374 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,200 the coverage was bad and we can see from 1375 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,710 this that it's significantly 1376 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,079 Laing this is uh 1377 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:28,480 reference signal receive power this is a 1378 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,520 way that we show coverage in a digital 1379 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,240 Network or a Broadband Network so green 1380 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,440 means to a 95% probability that there's 1381 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,160 going to be service inside a building so 1382 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,680 you've got all the walls you've got all 1383 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,400 the things that that can pass through uh 1384 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,359 and and slow down the the signal and not 1385 00:58:46,359 --> 00:58:49,280 allowed entry so green when it runs a 1386 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,000 propagation modeling it's showing that 1387 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,200 you you're going to have to a 95% 1388 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,760 probability coverage indoors if you see 1389 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,839 yellow that's in vehicle and if you see 1390 00:58:58,839 --> 00:59:00,599 red that's open field you're out the 1391 00:59:00,599 --> 00:59:01,880 golf course you're out in your front 1392 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,480 porch you're you're you're not not 1393 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,400 inside or not in a vehicle this is for 1394 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,200 low band and to make note 85% of 1395 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,480 T-Mobile Spectrum as allocated by the 1396 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,680 Federal Communications Commission is 1397 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,240 midband so this is low band uh so there 1398 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,720 it it provides a greater service the the 1399 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,400 RF the radio energy propagates 1400 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,920 farther we go to the midband we see A 1401 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,559 Change midband Is significantly smaller 1402 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:31,000 so 85% of the spectrum this is what the 1403 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,720 coverage it's going to provide where 15% 1404 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,559 of the 1405 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:38,760 spectrum I put a blue circle in to give 1406 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,359 kind of a reference of what the low band 1407 00:59:42,359 --> 00:59:44,880 versus the midband is doing okay that's 1408 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,039 the last of that one the next thing that 1409 00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:48,960 I was requested to do was an alternate 1410 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,630 side 1411 00:59:53,640 --> 01:00:07,470 analysis 1412 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:13,029 that's 1413 01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:16,119 it okay so uh I was requested to review 1414 01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:17,559 other sites within the area at the 1415 01:00:17,559 --> 01:00:19,000 heights that were available on those 1416 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640 sites uh compared to the proposed by 1417 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,119 T-Mobile vertical Bridge so the local 1418 01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:26,720 Juris required this two towers exist 1419 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,960 within 1.25 miles the proposed primary 1420 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,680 coverage objective is Highway 260 1421 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,400 towards pentop Lakeside and south and 1422 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,960 east of the proposed towards the country 1423 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,359 club the following propagation is for 1424 01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:39,359 low band as well as midband just like we 1425 01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:42,119 did before so here's the area so there's 1426 01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:44,480 the distance from the proposed to the 1427 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,440 other SES one other site's 8 Miles Away 1428 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,440 the other one is 1.23 miles 1429 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,119 away so alternate site one owned by 1430 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,440 White Mountain Communications 50ft self 1431 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,440 support Tower highest height available 1432 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,359 was 110 ft so it's not you're not be 1433 01:01:00,359 --> 01:01:01,799 able to put the antennas at the top 1434 01:01:01,799 --> 01:01:03,400 Tower because somebody's already there 1435 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,079 ground elevation 1436 01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:09,160 6,961 ft alternate site to owned by 1437 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,240 navapache Electric Company 196t self 1438 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,559 support Tower highest height available 1439 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:19,039 is 130 ft that's at 7178 1440 01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:21,400 amsl uh the jurisdiction also requests 1441 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,960 the proposed intentas be lower to 71 fet 1442 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,720 above ground ground level and compare to 1443 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,720 the 1444 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,520 proposed so this is the first low this 1445 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,200 is low band so if we look at the blue 1446 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,359 circle this is what the proposed site's 1447 01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:36,280 going to be able to provide within 171 1448 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,680 ft in tenis Center Line for low 1449 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,359 band this is 10t on the site to the West 1450 01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:45,640 so we can see a slight difference in 1451 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,760 what's what's being covered on the 1452 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,920 frequencies and then we get alternate 1453 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,760 two that's low band on for that site so 1454 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,880 we can see that it's going to be you 1455 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,319 know coverage in the Southeast but not 1456 01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:01,520 coverage towards the center or the West 1457 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:07,750 within the when the primary coverage 1458 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,599 objective all right uh then we looked at 1459 01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:13,160 proposed 71 ft so we lowered the antenna 1460 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,440 height from 171 down to 71 and that 1461 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,799 shows the difference in propagation 1462 01:02:17,799 --> 01:02:20,160 analysis if you remember on the 171 1463 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,760 significantly more green and yellow 1464 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,279 within the blue circle so a significant 1465 01:02:25,279 --> 01:02:29,200 drop in what the site would do at 71 1466 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,079 ft this is midband so 171 we saw that 1467 01:02:33,079 --> 01:02:36,480 it's it's midband it's not going to 1468 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,319 propagate into the buildings quite as 1469 01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:40,520 well uh just because the wavelength 1470 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,000 that's working out here's the RC RP 1471 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,240 coverage for the 110t 1472 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,640 alternate there's the RC RP coverage for 1473 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,119 the alternate number 1474 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:58,269 two and there's the rsrp coverage for 71 1475 01:02:58,279 --> 01:03:01,039 ft so alternate sites do not provide the 1476 01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:03,319 same level of service as the proposed 1477 01:03:03,319 --> 01:03:04,720 Heights available in the alternates are 1478 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,000 not as high as the proposed uh 1479 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,440 alternates impact the coverage of low 1480 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,119 Band frequencies and significantly 1481 01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:12,119 impact coverage of high band or midband 1482 01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:14,240 frequencies and you get into 3,800 to 1483 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,799 4200 megahertz and it it really makes an 1484 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:18,799 impact and then the reduction in height 1485 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:20,720 to 71 significantly reduces what the 1486 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,920 site can do so recommended uh please 1487 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,640 approve the proposed site at the hype in 1488 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:27,680 order for team 1489 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,520 M area I stand for questions thank you 1490 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,079 Steve any 1491 01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:36,400 questions councelor snitzer uh yeah the 1492 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,079 backend um I don't begin to understand 1493 01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,880 all the technical stuff but back in uh 1494 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,839 in 1495 01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:45,880 October uh I made a request and they 1496 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,119 said they would comply and it's not here 1497 01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,920 U my request was uh everything that was 1498 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,920 presented showed 1499 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,480 what happens if you have one Tower and 1500 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,520 my request was that if we have the 1501 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,039 existing towers and we use both of those 1502 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,520 towers and mount uh their equipment on 1503 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,559 both of those Towers what would the 1504 01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:13,039 coverage look like then uh the coverage 1505 01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:17,240 would be a probably 80% of what the 1506 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,119 proposed site would do the 80% of what 1507 01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:22,880 the one single tall tower yes sir okay 1508 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,440 so they could basically get it at least 1509 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,319 80% there uh if they added a third short 1510 01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:30,960 Tower if they built the Tower in the 1511 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,279 middle uh and it was a short Tower which 1512 01:04:34,279 --> 01:04:37,039 is whatever is permitted I forget 79 80 1513 01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,119 whatever it is feet but if you had those 1514 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:41,279 three towers what would the coverage 1515 01:04:41,279 --> 01:04:43,079 look like any idea coverage would be 1516 01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,359 comparable but once again team Hubble's 1517 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:47,279 trying to do it with one one asset 1518 01:04:47,279 --> 01:04:51,599 versus three asset well it's yeah it's much uh from a financial standpoint 1519 01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,240 I understand it's easier to have a few 1520 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,720 big tower yes sir but it sounds to me 1521 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,599 like they could get where they want to 1522 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,200 get if they built a small Tower and then 1523 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,440 rented space on the other two towers is 1524 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,799 that right yes sir okay thank you yes 1525 01:05:07,799 --> 01:05:09,760 sir any other questions any other 1526 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,119 questions for 1527 01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:14,799 Steve thank you for your presentation um 1528 01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:16,400 I would like to invite Jeremiah to come 1529 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,359 back up please go over what you've got 1530 01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:21,400 for 1531 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,559 us so we had a third party RF engineer 1532 01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:28,079 um basically run the numbers on the same 1533 01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:32,400 site and interestingly enough the um RF 1534 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,960 engineer that we selected to do this was 1535 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,400 a had worked for T-Mobile for 20 plus 1536 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,680 years uh and I don't proport to 1537 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,000 understand all of this information 1538 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,440 that's in here either uh councelor 1539 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,240 snitzer but I'll do my best to convey it 1540 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,000 to the uh members of the board um so 1541 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,160 they basically ran the same numbers and 1542 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,400 some of the comments that they made were 1543 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,839 the values provided by the applicant 1544 01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:58,839 were listed as rsrp th though the 1545 01:05:58,839 --> 01:06:00,200 provided values were much higher 1546 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,559 strength than the applicant's typical 1547 01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:02,599 design 1548 01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:06,119 thresholds um and they go and they they 1549 01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,640 as the maps that you sh that the the 1550 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960 applicant showed they have some similar 1551 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,680 but they're slightly different and 1552 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,720 hopefully the board had time to review 1553 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,000 those they're also available in the 1554 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,319 packet for anybody interested at home or 1555 01:06:19,319 --> 01:06:21,720 in the audience you can view them 1556 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,559 digitally um but some of the through the 1557 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,839 general discussion and the concerns that 1558 01:06:26,839 --> 01:06:29,000 they had they said that the proposed 1559 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,760 location provides indoor coverage of the 1560 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,000 areas in Pinetop along Highway 260 from 1561 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,640 Sweetwater Ranch to the west to just 1562 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,720 past Buck Springs road entrance into the 1563 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,039 White Mountain summer homes and pine 1564 01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:40,160 toop Lakes Country Club Pine toop Lakes 1565 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,720 has some indoor service but mostly in 1566 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,359 vehicle coverage along Buck Springs to 1567 01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:44,960 Branding Iron Loop White Mountain 1568 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,000 Country Club is Not serviced well 1569 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,839 coverage is mostly local to the 1570 01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:50,720 businesses along the Highway 260 the 1571 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,760 majority of which are to the west of the 1572 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,760 proposed Tower location tower Tower the 1573 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,680 wiscom tower area that's actually been 1574 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,839 purchased by Tower co uh the 1575 01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:01,680 improvements in coverage to the east and 1576 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,599 south over the wiscom tower results from 1577 01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:07,440 increased ground elevation of 7170 at 1578 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,760 the proposed location vers 6960 at the 1579 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,319 wiscom tower plus the increased rad 1580 01:07:13,319 --> 01:07:15,839 Center of 171 versus 1581 01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:18,839 117 available at wisecom a total of 165 1582 01:07:18,839 --> 01:07:20,680 ft increase in antenna height however 1583 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,160 the wise the wisecom tower as shown 1584 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,000 later provides better Target coverage 1585 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,960 around the business areas of pint 1586 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,400 toop uh some of the concerns the rsrp 1587 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,279 design points are little on the high 1588 01:07:32,279 --> 01:07:36,319 side the 85 uh dbel mowatt rsrp for 1589 01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:38,079 indoor service is more typical of 1590 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,200 commercial areas rather than rural areas 1591 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,720 in pintop residential indoor services 1592 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,240 for five megahertz carriers at 700 MHz 1593 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,520 is more along the lines of um 100 to 105 1594 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,960 D mows with many models showing to dbm 1595 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,039 and the link budget the covered areas 1596 01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:58,839 have good population densities however 1597 01:07:58,839 --> 01:08:00,680 the areas include very highly attended 1598 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,680 areas during the summer activities uh in 1599 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,720 this area and they're speaking 1600 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,839 specifically of the wiscom tower one 1601 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:10,000 sector of the proposed site will cover 1602 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,640 the general Pinetop area including 1603 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,599 businesses and residential areas one 1604 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,279 sector of the proposed site covers the 1605 01:08:15,279 --> 01:08:17,120 Pinetop lakes and Pinetop Country Club 1606 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,520 areas one sector of the proposed site 1607 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,960 covers the residential areas of Woodland 1608 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,080 Hills and White Mountain Country Club 1609 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,199 the same services areas are provided by 1610 01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:26,839 multiple sites by all the cellular 1611 01:08:26,839 --> 01:08:29,279 providers in the area and such as 1612 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,679 Verizon at and cellular 1 use the other 1613 01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:34,920 three sites they're functionable a 1614 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,120 single Tower location so hopefully that 1615 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,719 speaks to your question a little bit um 1616 01:08:39,719 --> 01:08:41,799 a single Tower location may not provide 1617 01:08:41,799 --> 01:08:43,640 sufficient capacity for the area and 1618 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:44,960 additional Tower locations will 1619 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,319 eventually be investigated by the 1620 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,759 applicant tier one carriers Verizon AT&T 1621 01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:51,719 mobile Point their annual Capital spend 1622 01:08:51,719 --> 01:08:54,199 to populated metropolitan areas Ro areas 1623 01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:56,359 are typically the last areas to Beed 1624 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:57,719 which typically increases the time 1625 01:08:57,719 --> 01:08:59,400 required to fix service problems 1626 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,279 congestion issues and lead to block 1627 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,279 calls and slow data through put speeds 1628 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,560 drop calls due to the areas of impaired 1629 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,640 services and and other concerns um then 1630 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,239 they go on to show some of the maps run with the numbers that they used and 1631 01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,199 they're similar but they vary a little 1632 01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:20,799 bit they show um the RSI RSSI approach 1633 01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:24,279 and um using typical design values 1634 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,759 and then uh part of their analysis they 1635 01:09:26,759 --> 01:09:28,960 state that the specifications provided 1636 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,640 by the applicant included only Spectrum 1637 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,359 owners by another entity the SL s 1638 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:36,440 Spectrum through this spectrum may have 1639 01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:38,040 been so though the Spectrum may have 1640 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,199 been sold or leased to T-Mobile Sal 1641 01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:42,920 Spectrum also owns or owned the B Block 1642 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,520 meaning the prediction should be run for 1643 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,759 10 mahz LTE carrier rather than 5 MHz 1644 01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:50,839 bandwidth and that concludes the third 1645 01:09:50,839 --> 01:09:51,960 party 1646 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,199 analysis thank you Jeremiah does anybody 1647 01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:55,719 have any questions for 1648 01:09:55,719 --> 01:10:00,560 Jeremiah just more of an observation um 1649 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,520 if I'm looking at these Maps right and I 1650 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,080 don't I don't report to understand them 1651 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,360 but um understanding what was said the 1652 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,719 green area is where we're getting our 1653 01:10:09,719 --> 01:10:11,880 coverage and this is on the low Band 1654 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,920 frequencies and I'm I'm looking at this 1655 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,320 and just comparing in my head where my 1656 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,199 house is versus where this Tower is 1657 01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:20,960 going to go we're talking like a three 1658 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,719 mile stretch of highway and a whole 1659 01:10:23,719 --> 01:10:27,960 bunch of land where nobody lives and a 1660 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,320 huge isore right off the the side of the 1661 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,320 highway in the middle of town for and I 1662 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,280 don't I don't understand the purpose 1663 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,199 there's barely any residential area that 1664 01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,880 gets good coverage from this 1665 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,719 site that was kind of my observation as 1666 01:10:41,719 --> 01:10:44,199 well councelor Heiser moving the site 1667 01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,520 over there gives more elevation but then 1668 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,000 a big part of the area have the uh 1669 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,320 greatest effect on is basically forest 1670 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,199 service and uh not develop land so it's 1671 01:10:56,199 --> 01:10:58,520 curious as to exactly why this site was 1672 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,040 selected as opposed to somewhere 1673 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,560 else thank you for your observations 1674 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,199 anybody else just I I I think there 1675 01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:09,400 there's an obvious economic benefit to a 1676 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,520 single big tower it it's less costly 1677 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,440 than multiple Towers plus it gives you 1678 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:17,199 the opportunity down the road to sell 1679 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,040 space like what we're talking about 1680 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,239 lower down on the same Tower to other 1681 01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:24,719 entities so but from the stand point of 1682 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:27,480 providing service as opposed to 1683 01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:30,920 maximizing profitability you can provide 1684 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,560 roughly equivalent service with multiple 1685 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:38,719 Towers so if we if we um deny this we 1686 01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:41,239 might be imposing a financial hurdle but 1687 01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:44,000 we're not making it impossible to serve 1688 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,719 people in a certain area and um and then 1689 01:11:47,719 --> 01:11:51,159 you know so I think um I think the 1690 01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:53,920 things that we've asked for generally 1691 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,080 speaking but the thing I asked for in 1692 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,719 particular um they have not been very 1693 01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:02,000 responsive to uh to our request for 1694 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,800 information or to the requirements from 1695 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,159 our codes um and and I don't think we 1696 01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:10,679 are imposing anything more than uh you 1697 01:12:10,679 --> 01:12:14,120 know lowered profitability if we say 1698 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,159 yeah you've got to have a small Tower in 1699 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:17,840 the middle that meets our requirements 1700 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:23,120 and use the existing Towers I think that would make a feasible solution for 1701 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,310 every body just not the highest 1702 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,840 profitability thank you go ahead and to 1703 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,199 that point part of the point I was 1704 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:34,800 trying to make was it seems as though 1705 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,239 they're going to have to have multiple 1706 01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:38,080 Towers in the area anyways to meet the 1707 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,239 coverage need if the really the end goal 1708 01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:42,520 is to provide coverage to the community 1709 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,320 because this does not do that right and 1710 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,040 that was one of the observations of our 1711 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,920 third party RF analysis uh RF engineer 1712 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,600 as well that uh this this Tower alone 1713 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,960 wouldn't uh 1714 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,000 provide coverage for the for the area so 1715 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,590 they eventually would seek more 1716 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,560 towers do do we have I know the 1717 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,159 progression the technology progression 1718 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:09,639 you know 5G and all this has been to uh 1719 01:13:09,639 --> 01:13:11,440 more smaller 1720 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:15,120 Towers um does that is that only for 1721 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,280 urban areas or something like that 1722 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,280 looking I'm asking you to look down to 1723 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,639 the future I can't even imagine but the 1724 01:13:21,639 --> 01:13:23,760 does the progression of Technology 1725 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,800 indicate that these big tall towers 1726 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,239 won't be required as much in the future 1727 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:30,520 um I may defer that question to an 1728 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,920 actual RF engineer being a civil 1729 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,840 engineer but I can tell you what I've 1730 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,639 seen um from the standpoint of 1731 01:13:36,639 --> 01:13:38,920 engineering from civil engineering in in 1732 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,639 um Metropolis or greater Phoenix area I 1733 01:13:41,639 --> 01:13:44,360 have uh another civil engineer on my 1734 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,120 commission and he's we had the 1735 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,560 conversation he said what they're doing 1736 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,320 down in the valley for instance is 1737 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,719 putting a bunch of towers on a light so 1738 01:13:51,719 --> 01:13:52,920 you don't it's why when you go down 1739 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,880 there you don't see one every half mile 1740 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,000 of these 180t towers number one they 1741 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,960 don't have the same elevation obstacles 1742 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,000 or trees that we have but they're they 1743 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,800 have the ability to put these on lights 1744 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,400 anywhere and I think that at one point 1745 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,320 in our code the intent was looking 1746 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,120 forward that that was the direction that 1747 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,960 the industry was going and and correct 1748 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,000 me if I'm wrong but it appears that um 1749 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,040 our code was looking towards that 1750 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,320 direction but um I think that the 1751 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,639 service up here um May May preclude that 1752 01:14:20,639 --> 01:14:22,080 number one based on we don't have the 1753 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,719 light capacity that cities do and we 1754 01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:26,600 have all the elevation Deltas but you 1755 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,600 can explain more if you'd like so you're 1756 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,880 referring to small cells they're 1757 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,320 typically sites that are anywhere from 1758 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,040 20 feet tall to 32 to 35 ft tall 1759 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,320 depending on the depending on the height 1760 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,800 of the light pole or the street uh 1761 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,880 traffic signal light so we see a lot of 1762 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,920 the small cells in areas where there's a 1763 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,679 lot of capacity so for example last 1764 01:14:48,679 --> 01:14:51,159 year's Super Bowl at State Farm Stadium 1765 01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:54,480 um I was hired to design about 50 small 1766 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:56,719 cells covering in and around that 1767 01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:59,239 stadium so why so many small cells when 1768 01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:01,000 there was already macro coverage that 1769 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,679 was because the amount of users within 1770 01:15:02,679 --> 01:15:05,280 that area were very tight condensed 1771 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,239 packed small areas so you got a site 1772 01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:11,880 that covers maybe two blocks so in a 1773 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,760 area like a college or downtown Phoenix 1774 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,320 or downtown Chandler or larger 1775 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,280 metropolitan areas you're going to see 1776 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,239 small sales and basically their capacity 1777 01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:24,679 fixes so they're all ing mobiles to not 1778 01:15:24,679 --> 01:15:26,360 talk to the macro but switch down to the 1779 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,960 small cell even though the coverage area 1780 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,560 is smaller so it does really good where 1781 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,560 there's slow traffic or a lot of walking 1782 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,239 colleges a lot of college kids love 1783 01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:35,159 these phones so that's where you see 1784 01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:38,400 small cells uh in order to have small 1785 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,480 cells you have to have existing macro 1786 01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:42,600 coverage or large sight coverage to be 1787 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,960 able to do that yeah I wasn't exactly 1788 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,920 thinking of I was more thinking in a in 1789 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,679 a general sense the the years ago um I 1790 01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,679 was working on a designing an 1791 01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,120 agricultural tractor and all the gauges 1792 01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,000 were analog gauges at that time uh but 1793 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,080 my program wasn't going to happen for 5 1794 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,760 years and we could see that five years 1795 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,320 down the road uh digital Technologies 1796 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,719 cost you know the cost curve would come 1797 01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:14,679 down and uh so so the time that I was 1798 01:16:14,679 --> 01:16:16,440 putting this together was prohibitive to 1799 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:18,760 do what I wanted to do but by the time 1800 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,400 we got there 5 years later it was 1801 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,480 cheaper and better and all that so so 1802 01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:25,800 Mike it's sort of a general question do 1803 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:30,080 we see technology changing we're um not 1804 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,360 necessarily a little Tower every you 1805 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,480 know couple hundred yards but but uh 1806 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:37,800 something like uh you know using Towers 1807 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,199 but just not needing not even needing 1808 01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:42,360 180 foot Tower so there's two things 1809 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,440 that come into play one is the laws of 1810 01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:46,840 physics and how radio frequencies 1811 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,679 propagate um it's kind of like you guys 1812 01:16:50,679 --> 01:16:52,080 at being on the council you're setting 1813 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,040 up above everyone else right than 1814 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,560 everybody sitting in the chairs behind 1815 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,880 me so you have the ability to see 1816 01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,960 everything better than what we have we 1817 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:01,040 have the ability to see you because 1818 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,480 you're elevated higher than what we are 1819 01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:05,679 in the crowd same concept for antennas 1820 01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:07,199 if you take your pair of eyes and you 1821 01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:09,920 say I'm going to turn them into antennas 1822 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,120 all right are they going to work better 1823 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,520 up here near the top of my head where 1824 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,000 God put them or are they going to work 1825 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,040 better at my 1826 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,639 ankles so the laws of phys physics come 1827 01:17:18,639 --> 01:17:19,800 into play with radio frequency 1828 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,760 properties but there's you know there's 1829 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,639 still it's like that that what used to 1830 01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:26,360 be true in radio communications but they 1831 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,360 just found a way to to bring a ground up 1832 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,719 uh so that the basically the signal the 1833 01:17:33,719 --> 01:17:36,000 signal was propagating from a higher 1834 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,120 level and covered more distance I it's 1835 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,120 just I mean I again I don't begin to 1836 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,920 understand the technology but do you see 1837 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:48,000 any uh any shift toward guys being able 1838 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,920 to solve the problem of getting cover I 1839 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,120 mean whoever does it will make a lot of 1840 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:56,239 money um you get of getting better 1841 01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:58,880 coverage without having a tall tower 1842 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,560 don't see that once again it comes into 1843 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,920 play with laws of physics and terrain 1844 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,600 and morphologies and clutter data and 1845 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,120 trees and all those wonderful things 1846 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,400 that stop RF it's a physics 1847 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,440 thing any other 1848 01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:18,360 questions okay thank you um this is a 1849 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,520 public hearing we do have some 1850 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,800 individuals that would like to come 1851 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,159 speak to us um if you guys would come up 1852 01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:26,440 please Warren 1853 01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:30,120 Avery thank you you know I was here in 1854 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,120 October when the room was was totally 1855 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,239 packed and you voted against it and now 1856 01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:36,719 they're back again uh and I can see the 1857 01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:38,520 difference it's a great marketing playy 1858 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,440 but I have three observations number one 1859 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:43,679 uh I saw a picture of this tower that 1860 01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:46,320 looks like a tree and it was great but 1861 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,520 did you see any picture of the tower 1862 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,199 compared to the pine trees around it I 1863 01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:53,440 don't think we have any 180t pine trees 1864 01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:54,639 around here so this thing's going to 1865 01:18:54,639 --> 01:18:57,320 stick out like a a sore thumb next thing 1866 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,000 I saw was a they have a 20ft fall zone 1867 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,679 well if you have 180 ft Tower and it 1868 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:06,600 falls over and it falls over white mine 1869 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,880 Boulevard what good is a little 20x 20 1870 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,239 fall zone going to do and the thing I 1871 01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:14,080 never saw they talk about T-Mobile 1872 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,040 expanding their their marketing in this 1873 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,400 area did anybody see any any input as to 1874 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,120 what T-Mobile currently has in the 1875 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,480 October fire remember somebody asked who 1876 01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:27,560 had T-Mobile nobody raised their hands 1877 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,760 so here we're supposed to put a tower in the hopes that T-Mobile is going to 1878 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,520 expand their business so I for me I 1879 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,400 still don't think it's a great idea 1880 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:48,149 thank you okay thank you Warren um David 1881 01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:52,040 adcox mayor Commissioners thanks for 1882 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,080 having me come over for a third 1883 01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,239 time personally I don't think that 1884 01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:03,560 uh he's he's going to tell 1885 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,320 us his job here today is to get this 1886 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,040 Tower uh 1887 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,120 approved um I agree with you Mr snitzer 1888 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:18,239 the the technology is going there it's not going to have I mean why why 1889 01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:22,320 not a 500t tower you know 180 ft Tower 1890 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,120 let's put a 500 foot 1,000 foot uh we 1891 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,040 can get coverage all the way down to 1892 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,040 Phoenix 1893 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,880 um I don't think that the due diligence 1894 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,280 has been done by this company they had 1895 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,600 90 1896 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:41,280 days couldn't F could not uh respond 1897 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,040 back within the 90 days they missed 1898 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,280 their 1899 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,760 deadline and really in my opinion has 1900 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,560 not explored other options we've got uh 1901 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,440 Chief Morgan I was talking to him and 1902 01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,920 he's been talked to there there was an 1903 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,600 option of T-Mobile joining with them and 1904 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,960 they had a deadline of today to either 1905 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,639 agree or 1906 01:21:03,639 --> 01:21:06,560 disagree and from what I understand they 1907 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,440 either did not uh get back with them at 1908 01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:15,920 all or um they they uh turned it down so 1909 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,880 it was an option that was right across 1910 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,920 the street that was given to them and 1911 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,679 they're still turning it down they're keep pounding this one 1912 01:21:26,679 --> 01:21:31,800 location and I'm I'm representing the mobile home park and this 1913 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,320 Tower the base of this Tower 1914 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,199 unfortunately for 1915 01:21:36,199 --> 01:21:41,440 me is 38 ft from the corner of my 1916 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:45,520 personal mobile home and like I was can 1917 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,480 you put your paper down so we can pick 1918 01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:49,639 you up on our thank you okay that red 1919 01:21:49,639 --> 01:21:51,639 microphone right in front of you thank 1920 01:21:51,639 --> 01:21:55,000 you so it's 38t from the base of of of 1921 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,679 where I live and uh i' I've showed you 1922 01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:00,440 guys pictures I I put out uh different 1923 01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:02,719 presentations with pictures a lot of 1924 01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:06,320 different information and for me I'm not 1925 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,639 going to be going out and 1926 01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:12,360 looking out at a tower I'm going to have 1927 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,040 to actually see this Tower I'm going to 1928 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,920 actually have to go outside and look 1929 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,760 straight up at 180t Tower and and the 1930 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:20,679 fall 1931 01:22:20,679 --> 01:22:25,840 zone is just you yeah 1932 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:32,840 it's Jeremiah has talked about uh if and and hope and in perfect world 1933 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,280 situations that's just that's just 1934 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,800 BS 1935 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,320 um I've got uh I'm I'm supposed to be 1936 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,040 reading this off I I like somebody else 1937 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:47,239 I I get off um I'll let it go it's down 1938 01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:50,840 uh we had over a hundred uh signatures 1939 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,800 of of people before that are are against 1940 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,920 this um this was back when the mobile 1941 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,000 home park was actually open it's it's 1942 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,199 normally the majority of my people are 1943 01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:03,800 only there for six 1944 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,360 months 1945 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,440 uh and so the other six months of which 1946 01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:11,159 we are in right now they're not here and 1947 01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:14,480 not representing uh but we had 100 100 1948 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:17,360 over a hundred uh residents that signed 1949 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,679 that uh a lot of this 1950 01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:23,320 stuff he's covered we've covered 1951 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,159 Jeremiah's covered talking about the 1952 01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,239 uh applicant doesn't provide the entire 1953 01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:31,600 area the proposed 1954 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,320 facility uh justification as to why they 1955 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,679 don't have a preferred site uh of which 1956 01:23:38,679 --> 01:23:43,480 the site on uh 2666 East White Mountain 1957 01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:48,040 Boulevard it does not have enough space 1958 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,719 to do everything that they want if if it 1959 01:23:51,719 --> 01:23:54,520 was the the the land itself with nothing 1960 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,239 else on that land it still wouldn't be 1961 01:23:57,239 --> 01:23:59,679 enough for the tower they had a nice 1962 01:23:59,679 --> 01:24:01,960 little Tower picture up there with the 1963 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,120 uh uh the little gazebo in 1964 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,800 there I did not see any properties that 1965 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,320 were 38 ft from the base of that Tower 1966 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,719 in that little picture picture you 1967 01:24:13,719 --> 01:24:15,960 had 1968 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,840 uh say we've covered a lot of this um 1969 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,120 talked about Chief Morgan just talked to 1970 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,719 him tonight they never got back with 1971 01:24:23,719 --> 01:24:26,679 them on a different 1972 01:24:26,679 --> 01:24:29,040 option uh applicants said that they 1973 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,639 talked with the fishing game fishing 1974 01:24:31,639 --> 01:24:34,280 game had no knowledge whatsoever of them 1975 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,679 contacting them at 1976 01:24:36,679 --> 01:24:40,719 all doesn't qualify for a neutral site 1977 01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:42,040 uh points that have already been made 1978 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,960 that I'm just going to touch on they 1979 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,000 missed the deadline the new setback is 1980 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,920 in effect now even though they they say 1981 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,840 that it wasn't in effect at the time it 1982 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,119 was uh it was denied at the time and 1983 01:24:57,119 --> 01:24:59,719 they were supposed to show why it uh why 1984 01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:01,960 it was supposed to be a good 1985 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,440 idea uh David can you kind of wrap up a 1986 01:25:04,440 --> 01:25:06,280 little bit please okay that's about 1987 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:07,960 that's it's just not enough room in the 1988 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,520 tower and it's too close the fall zone 1989 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,080 is just it's 1990 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,159 not and so I definitely request that you 1991 01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:18,520 uh turn it down thank you very much for 1992 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,280 your comments um Jackie 1993 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,430 Wilson 1994 01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,560 thank you for hearing me I live at at I 1995 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,600 live in the mobile home park I liveed 1996 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,360 there year round and we did have a lot 1997 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,119 of people here representing us when in 1998 01:25:38,119 --> 01:25:41,320 October when it when it first was said 1999 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,639 but I do live there year around 2000 01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:47,520 and I have sell coverage but I don't 2001 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,920 have 2002 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:56,040 T-Mobile but I just don't think that that Tower belongs in our 2003 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,840 backyard and I'm like David it's setting 2004 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,800 right against the mobile homes that are 2005 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,520 on that side of the park and a lot of 2006 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,960 our friends are elderly and it's going 2007 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,960 to cause them health problems and I just 2008 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,760 think that you made the right decision 2009 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:17,040 in October and I hope that you find us 2010 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,560 in favor thank you thank you Jackie 2011 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,239 appreciate your comments is there any 2012 01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:22,719 other member of the public would like to 2013 01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:25,960 speak to us tonight as this is a public 2014 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,040 hearing okay seeing none we'll go ahead 2015 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,840 and close the public hearing and have 2016 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,719 open it up for Council discussion if 2017 01:26:31,719 --> 01:26:33,760 there is any um councelor cig bomb are 2018 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,199 you still with 2019 01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,600 us I am here okay just want to make sure 2020 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,159 if you have any comments let us know 2021 01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:46,239 well um I would have a much improved 2022 01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:49,119 self coverage at my house if a tower 2023 01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:53,000 went in someplace up in this area but 2024 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,320 180 ft just seem so high and exposed 2025 01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:01,760 right there um at Hill Street and I 2026 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,639 appre I appreciate the people who live 2027 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:09,400 in all of those mobile homes um and I 2028 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,119 can certainly see their 2029 01:27:12,119 --> 01:27:16,639 concerns thank you councelor Heisler um 2030 01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:19,679 Jeremiah could you touch briefly on uh 2031 01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:21,560 the FCC rules regarding health and 2032 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,480 Towers just real quick cuz I I mean want 2033 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:25,800 people understand that we're listening 2034 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,119 to what they say but we're also 2035 01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:29,840 precluded from right and I mentioned 2036 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,320 that uh in my staff report that 2037 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,960 basically U you can't take into 2038 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:40,400 consideration health effects if it uh um 2039 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,600 Falls within the guidelines provided by 2040 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,000 the federal government um so basically 2041 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,719 that rules out that component as part of 2042 01:27:49,719 --> 01:27:56,440 um the decision making process thank you make a 2043 01:27:56,440 --> 01:27:59,119 motion board member oh councelor 2044 01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:01,960 Phillips board member Phillips I guess I 2045 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,480 appreciate the fact that they uh 2046 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:05,600 provided the maps and all that and I I 2047 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,760 reviewed all that stuff and uh but me 2048 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,080 I'm a visual guy I actually took a drive 2049 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,960 out there this last week myself in my 2050 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,480 truck and where the proposed Tower uh 2051 01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:18,239 would 2052 01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:21,400 be I understand where you're saying 38 2053 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,000 ft is right on top of the the real close 2054 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,719 to those mobile homes and uh the 20ft 2055 01:28:27,719 --> 01:28:31,270 Falls them seems to be a 2056 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,360 little 2057 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,159 underestimated and I would agree with 2058 01:28:35,159 --> 01:28:36,480 that statement and that's why we brought 2059 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:38,320 forward after I after this came to my 2060 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,400 attention um having worked at a 2061 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:45,600 municipality that had at least a one: U recommendation that was what the 2062 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,119 commission um brought forward I 2063 01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:51,320 initially proposed a 2:1 uh ratio the 2064 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,159 commission went with a 1 to one and then 2065 01:28:53,159 --> 01:28:56,040 ultimately the council decided that uh a 2066 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,679 1 and a quarter would be more signific 2067 01:28:58,679 --> 01:29:01,800 or more uh substantial be able to cover 2068 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,159 things like maintenance and uh safety 2069 01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:08,360 for uh residents around the area and uh 2070 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,719 did have this conversation with the town 2071 01:29:09,719 --> 01:29:11,440 attorney and he's of the opinion that 2072 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:13,000 this is an effective ordinance and it 2073 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,679 was effective as of uh February 5th 2074 01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:17,040 which was three days after they were 2075 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,560 supposed to be here for their 90-day 2076 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,040 appeal that was granted uh from the 2077 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,760 board in 2078 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,480 November thank you any other comments I 2079 01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:29,199 guess I would ahead I'm a kind of a 2080 01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:33,840 practical guy and we have a reason for 2081 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,840 the height that we have in our 2082 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,600 ordinances and this is way above that um 2083 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,440 I I understand why because the higher 2084 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:45,719 you get the farther you can transmit you 2085 01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:47,440 know it's but you know technology is 2086 01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:52,960 line of sight so I understand that uh um 2087 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,239 but from a really practical standpoint 2088 01:29:55,239 --> 01:29:57,920 how can you expect a tower to fall 2089 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,560 that's 180 ft tall if it's strong enough 2090 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,880 to stand up it's probably strong enough 2091 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,159 to fall that 2092 01:30:04,159 --> 01:30:08,639 way it's 180 ft you know fall radius to 2093 01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:11,320 me right I I don't I don't see how they 2094 01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,119 could do it in 20 ft unless it's a 2095 01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:15,400 collapsible thing so they they in a 2096 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,960 nutshell they design a weak spot into 2097 01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:22,560 the tower so the top 20 ft there's a 2098 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,400 they do a finite element analysis and 2099 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,119 they design it so there's essentially a 2100 01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:29,199 weak spot there and in a perfect world 2101 01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:30,639 the top would just fall off but we don't 2102 01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:31,960 live in a perfect world there's 2103 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,560 potential and even as identified in 2104 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,280 their own fall zone letter for it to 2105 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,520 fall outside exactly that that's my 2106 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,119 point you 2107 01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:42,119 know theoretically it might but probably 2108 01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:44,920 won't fall within that 20 foot if there 2109 01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,520 was a catastrophic failure it would fall 2110 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,520 the entire Tower would fall uh and 2111 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,440 probably roll even further than 180 ft 2112 01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:54,600 yeah and I used to live in the little in 2113 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,520 that park by the 2114 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,320 way in the 2115 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:05,239 summertime yes go ahead councelor for me the main point just as as it has 2116 01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:11,320 been since October is uh the and and you 2117 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,360 know and i' asked for him to bring this 2118 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,840 out they brought it out but only when I 2119 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,080 ask again they didn't volunteer the 2120 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,600 information and that is that they can 2121 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,840 provide uh 2122 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,679 essentially 100% of the same coverage by 2123 01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:27,760 using two of the existing towers and 2124 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,040 renting space on them and building a 2125 01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,600 conforming Tower at this location so so 2126 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,920 I don't see a need other than a 2127 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,440 financial need but there's no physical 2128 01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:41,159 need the technolog is in place and uh 2129 01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:43,280 you know a short Tower here and the 2130 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,760 other two towers would meet the needs so 2131 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,600 um you know for you know in addition to 2132 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,840 these other reasons I would say that 2133 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,920 because there's another way to meet the 2134 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:59,639 need thank you anything else um as did 2135 01:31:59,639 --> 01:32:01,280 board member Phillips I have taken a 2136 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:06,199 tour of that um mobile home park and I 2137 01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:07,840 know exactly where that Tower would be 2138 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,639 in relation to these folks homes and I 2139 01:32:09,639 --> 01:32:11,360 just think that's way too close I mean 2140 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,560 we we thought about this when we 2141 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:14,719 implemented the 2142 01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:19,119 1.25 fall zone 1.25 to one so I think we 2143 01:32:19,119 --> 01:32:22,440 are we are well aware of that and um 2144 01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:25,520 also I want to address the 5G topic that 2145 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,320 came up on the shorter Towers I believe 2146 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,880 when we put that in our code it was an 2147 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,080 FCC regulation that we address that 2148 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,320 somehow in our code and so we were 2149 01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,080 proactive in doing that even though that 2150 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,639 technology I don't believe is up here 2151 01:32:36,639 --> 01:32:39,239 yet so that's why you know just for the 2152 01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:40,760 Public's knowledge that's why that is in 2153 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,800 our code so I I too do not believe this 2154 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,679 is a great place for this proposed tower 2155 01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:51,080 now the the technology I mean it's uh 2156 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,760 you know we went went away from from 2157 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,679 microwave as an example we went away 2158 01:32:54,679 --> 01:32:57,360 from microwaves old technology were 2159 01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,960 going to go to a new technology and then 2160 01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:02,159 people figured a way to what they call 2161 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:05,239 multiplexing microwav so you have you 2162 01:33:05,239 --> 01:33:07,080 know instead of it being able to carry 2163 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,400 one communication it can carry multiple 2164 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,800 Communications and all of a sudden 2165 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,119 microwaves have come back into the mix 2166 01:33:14,119 --> 01:33:16,600 especially because there are places that 2167 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,760 suffer from low low uh internet service 2168 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,920 through the normal me so that like the 2169 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,520 hospital has a microwave link now in 2170 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,239 case everything goes wrong they still 2171 01:33:27,239 --> 01:33:30,320 have a way to get in and out um so you 2172 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,400 know the Technologies keep 2173 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,600 changing thank you is there any further 2174 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,560 discussion if not I'm ready for a motion 2175 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,000 go right ahead I move to uphold the 2176 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,159 denial of the conditional use permit cup 2177 01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:45,119 133 for the construction of vertical 2178 01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:47,320 Bridge cell tower on APN 2179 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:48,920 41143 2180 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,840 008a for the following reasons the 2181 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,840 proposed Tower's height is 180 ft a 2182 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,119 maximum height of 75 ft is allowable in 2183 01:33:56,119 --> 01:33:58,560 no case greater than 95 ft and site 2184 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,199 design is neutral per 17106 2185 01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:05,520 5082 the applicant must submit evidence 2186 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,040 of meeting the requirements established 2187 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:12,080 within 17106 070 B3 regarding contact 2188 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,840 with all other Tower providers Property 2189 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,360 Owners within the preferred sites the 2190 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:17,960 applicant failed to submit a fall zone 2191 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,760 letter that exemplifies confidence that 2192 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,360 the tower would not harm residents at 2193 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,000 the RV Park in the event of catastrophic 2194 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,520 failure the applicant failed to locate 2195 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:27,880 the site away from residential 2196 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,719 neighborhoods per 17106 2197 01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:32,719 010b the applicant should have 2198 01:34:32,719 --> 01:34:34,639 considered the requirements outlined in 2199 01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:37,719 17106 030 F requiring wireless 2200 01:34:37,719 --> 01:34:39,679 communication facilities to be site 2201 01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:42,280 cited and constructed to preserve the 2202 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,360 pre-existing character of the 2203 01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,040 surrounding buildings and vegetation 2204 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:46,320 while the site is neutral it is 2205 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,199 immediately adjacent to an RV park the 2206 01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:51,880 request is deficient as a land scaping 2207 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,960 plan in conformance with 2208 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,360 17130 2209 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,600 F4F was not submitted Tech lighting does 2210 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,480 not meet the requirements established 2211 01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:03,560 within 2212 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,320 1704100 and 17106 030 D the proposed 2213 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:09,840 site does not meet the effective 2214 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,679 setbacks for wireless communication 2215 01:35:11,679 --> 01:35:16,080 facilities established within 17106 2216 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,320 0402 thank you I'll second that thank 2217 01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,119 you we have a motion of second is there 2218 01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:23,480 any further discussion all those in 2219 01:35:23,480 --> 01:35:25,600 favor please signify raising your right 2220 01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,280 hand thank you councelor 2221 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:32,400 cbom I thank you um the motion passes 2222 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,679 unanimously to uphold the denial of the 2223 01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:38,880 cup um there being no further business 2224 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,600 before the board tonight this meeting is 2225 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,679 adjourned thank 2226 01:35:42,679 --> 01:35:45,679 you