1 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,510 Okay. 2 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,760 Call to order. Any errors? Just small 3 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,320 errors, which we learned organizes the 4 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,040 ancestral territory of the Squamish 5 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,680 people. 6 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,920 And 7 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,520 adoption of the agenda as presented. 8 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,760 >> Someone moved to second. 9 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,200 >> Who will second? 10 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Playing all in favor. 11 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,320 Carried. Adoption of the August 5th 12 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,240 regular meeting council minutes. So, who 13 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,600 will move to second? 14 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,760 >> I'll move to second. 15 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,800 >> Are there any omissions? All in favor? 16 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Carried. Sorry. 17 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Yes, it's come to my attention first. 18 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,000 >> Yes. 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,640 >> Um no petitions or delegations today. 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 We'll go to staff reports under 6.1, 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,680 business facade improvement grant 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,480 application for 133 Fir Street and 8th 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Avenue. 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,480 Mark. 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,440 >> Thank you. Uh we've got a facade 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,480 improvement grant application for 135. 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Um 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,920 this is 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,680 uh 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 retail location with suites above. Uh 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,160 they have just finished a exterior 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 renovation on the lane side of their 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,920 building. Um and they want to upgrade 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,960 the facade on the Vermilion side, 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,880 basically to match. Uh it's kind of a 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,759 dark grayish brown uh hardy plank 37 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:11,920 siding. 38 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,760 And then uh re-shingling the 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,480 uh 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,959 the awning as well. So, 41 00:02:17,959 --> 00:02:20,600 uh total project cost is uh 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 over $18,000. 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,959 So, uh if approved, it would likely be 44 00:02:25,959 --> 00:02:29,800 the maximum funding of 5,000. 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,880 >> Questions? 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,760 >> Councilor Gould. 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,480 >> Um Mark, I see that the awning is like a 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,280 shared 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,000 like it's um it's over more than one 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,840 building. Will they just do what's in 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,440 front? 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,880 >> Presumably, yes. 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,640 >> Okay. 54 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:45,360 >> Um 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,920 >> And then your report says that they 56 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:49,720 would have to enter into a or possibly 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,560 have to enter an encroachment agreement. 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 >> Yeah, so so with 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,880 kind of the way we've handled the 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,120 awnings 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,959 uh that are over our sidewalks is if 62 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:02,239 they require a building permit, um 63 00:03:02,239 --> 00:03:05,280 at the very least then then we uh try to 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 catch up on the that legal easement as 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,640 well. Um 66 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,760 I have talked to the building 67 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,680 department. Uh 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,440 they're a little unsure what the scope 69 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,360 of work is, but um 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,840 with this 71 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,320 with the BFI program uh when they enter 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,280 into the performance agreement, uh it 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,440 basically asks for a review with the 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,080 building department prior to work 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:29,600 starting. 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,720 >> That's when they'll get more details. 77 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,959 Okay, perfect. 78 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:33,120 >> Yeah. 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,270 >> No, it's going to look nice. 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,800 » Anybody else? Motion? 81 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,959 Councilor Gould. 82 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:41,519 Second. 83 00:03:41,519 --> 00:03:42,519 >> Mhm. 84 00:03:42,519 --> 00:03:44,840 >> To approve. 85 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,239 Any last questions? 86 00:03:47,239 --> 00:03:48,519 All in favor? 87 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:50,519 Carried. Thank you. 88 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:53,440 Uh Council Kerr, Council Gould. 89 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,560 >> Uh, I have no but I had a community for 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,480 my for community forest meeting and then 91 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:06,790 our 92 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,070 » Uh, counselor McClean. 93 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,000 » Nothing other than my 94 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,600 and well 95 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,830 town migration. 96 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:18,880 » Yeah. 97 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,950 >> We were there a few weeks ago. 98 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,680 » Okay. 99 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,720 Councilor 100 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,800 >> Uh, as I stated at the last meeting 101 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,600 August it's pretty quiet for me so I 102 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,919 have nothing to report. 103 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:34,720 >> Okay. 104 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Um 105 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,880 I'm just trying to remember when our 106 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,120 last meeting was. 107 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Uh, there's been lots going on. 108 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Um 109 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,560 so 110 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,720 just 111 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Uh, we had a meeting um 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,800 with uh 113 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Jared 114 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,360 and Shawn and uh 115 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,720 directors from area HB and G. 116 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,840 Um 117 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,120 with the Minister of 118 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,880 water, land, natural or resource 119 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,720 stewardship uh 120 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,960 on 121 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,480 early August 3rd. 122 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Um discussing some of the projects that 123 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,800 were outstanding and uh getting permits 124 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,680 for for approvals. We're still waiting 125 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,320 on the permits for certain works post 126 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,040 flood so we discussed that and then as a 127 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,520 valley we discussed uh some water 128 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,600 issues that are ongoing with the 129 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,600 watershed and the ongoing drought and what not. 130 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Um 131 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,520 so that was a good meeting. Um she used 132 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,480 my office for a while to have a meeting 133 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,120 and then we had an hour and a half with 134 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 the minister which is uh 135 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,120 pretty great cuz you don't usually get 136 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 that kind of access so 137 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Um and then the next day 138 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,310 um 139 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Yeah, so we're working on a highway 140 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,160 through the SBPS working on a 141 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,280 um 142 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:59,840 Highway 3 tourism 143 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,680 kind of succession planning and business 144 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,920 attraction program. Um, we're almost to 145 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,920 the point. So, Destination Canada has a 146 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,960 grant process out. We're working with 147 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Destination BC to do some matching funds 148 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,280 and then each participant has to put in 149 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:16,880 some funds. So, today at our SBPS 150 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,360 meeting we allocated 151 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,040 5,000 out of our budget to to go to 152 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,120 this. Um 153 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,040 So, that'll be our portion and then 154 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,840 uh, we're working with Boundary Country 155 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:30,440 and Christina Lake. So, we're going to 156 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,440 look at a corridor-wide 157 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,040 business 158 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,840 succession planning attraction and uh 159 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,400 um 160 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,560 like an 161 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 inventory of all the tourism businesses 162 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,320 along the corridors so that we can 163 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,760 hopefully go to the next stage which 164 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,040 would be attracting and developing more 165 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,240 tourism-based businesses for the corridor. So, that's that's an 166 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000 ongoing weekly meeting right now just 167 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,640 till we get to the grant. Um, and 168 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,160 Destination BC is looking after the 169 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,919 grant process and everything for us. So, 170 00:07:00,919 --> 00:07:03,120 um 171 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Then, 172 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,080 we had a regional district meeting. 173 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,919 Um, we had a special 174 00:07:12,919 --> 00:07:14,760 in camera meeting to bring us all up to 175 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,880 date. Last Thursday, tomorrow we have 176 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,000 another regional district meeting and 177 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,480 then he'll bring us up to date on that 178 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,760 as well. So, 179 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,480 as everybody knows the fire in 180 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Summerland area F holder Meadow Valley, 181 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Garnet Valley, all those areas. Pretty 182 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,280 devastating fire. 183 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Roughly 20,000 evacuees um, all within a 184 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,400 5-hour process. 185 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Um 186 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,400 You know, I've heard mixed things. We 187 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,680 have We have people over there 188 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,920 at Maureen or over there working. 189 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,800 They're still there as far as I know. 190 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 There's been a fire protection or fire 191 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 structure protection unit that is a 192 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,280 joint between Aris, Princeton, I think 193 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Hayes Creek has people on it. Um have 194 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,000 all been on scene. 195 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Um 196 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Yeah, so it's it's been a really uh 197 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,440 a regional approach to to supporting 198 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,520 this. 199 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 The far end of uh area H over in the 200 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Tro- over by Thirst Lake, that is on 201 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,800 evacuation order right now. There's an 202 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,400 evacuation alert that goes all the way 203 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,720 to Jellicoe. 204 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Um 205 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,240 so there's 206 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,280 it's still advancing, just not as fast 207 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,360 as it was. It did take a little bit of a 208 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,480 turn. 209 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,800 But uh 210 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,479 we continue to watch that fire and uh 211 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:35,560 um Dave Stringfellow's back from working 212 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:36,719 on 213 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:38,479 the Was it the Boston Bar fire I think 214 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:39,560 he was on? 215 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:42,280 Um so he's back and uh they're 216 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,719 coordinating some efforts up there right 217 00:08:43,719 --> 00:08:45,600 now with Cindy, the fire chief from 218 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,560 Hayes Creek, and and whatnot. So the 219 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:49,920 whole area's kind of on on alert right 220 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,560 now just to keep an eye on what's going 221 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:53,040 on there. 222 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Uh everything will be weather dependent 223 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 between now and when the snow flies, so 224 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,160 how that fire progresses or does not 225 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,800 progress. 226 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,190 Um 227 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,110 so 228 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,630 Who else do we speak with? Uh 229 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,000 I've had some Through all that, I've had 230 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,400 some conversations with the Minister of 231 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Forests, the 232 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,280 emergency management office, the ALC. 233 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Um just doing what we can do to help. We 234 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,839 did open a 235 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:26,160 uh ESS center for two for a couple days 236 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,720 here in Princeton. Um that was to 237 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,440 support the evacuees that were coming 238 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,839 out of the the Tro- um 239 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:34,520 the side of Tro- Creek. 240 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,880 And um we end up servicing 241 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,000 members of the Summerland community as 242 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,560 well from here cuz they got dispersed 243 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,000 everywhere. 244 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,560 Um 245 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:45,840 yesterday? 246 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,320 Yeah, yesterday 247 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Lyle and I met with the Minister of 248 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,440 Transportation about the Copper Mountain 249 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Road intersection with Highway 5 or 250 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Highway 3. Um 251 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,480 presented them with that. They're going 252 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,840 to work with our staff on 253 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,480 some planning and some research on that. 254 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Um asked them to extend that all the way 255 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,800 to Sand Hang 256 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,200 so that way we we look at a gradual 257 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,000 reduction in speed and then also bring 258 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,360 in the uh 259 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,640 the intersection at the golf course and 260 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,200 uh 261 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,840 campground cuz it's 90 km/h there as 262 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,880 well. So, also the Sand Hang 263 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,920 intersection and the Taylor Mill, the 264 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,200 three 265 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,640 intersections at Taylor's Mill now. So, 266 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,680 um just have them look at it all as one 267 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:30,920 big unit. Um so, 268 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,240 they're going to do a traffic study and 269 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,080 bring their engineers over and work with 270 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,480 the I'm guessing Jared and his his team 271 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,920 on that. 272 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,430 Um 273 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Yeah, it's still everything's still 274 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,680 going busy on top of everything else. 275 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,790 Um 276 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,600 one of the things 277 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,800 that 278 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Oh, and then I was in Clearwater also 279 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,400 during this last while for uh Silga 280 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,720 meeting. So, 281 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,200 um the day that the fire Summerland 282 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,560 broke out, we're on our way back from 283 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:05,200 Clearwater when we got the phone call 284 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,160 that it had happened. 285 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,200 So, um 286 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,440 kind of been super busy. 287 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,920 One of the things that has come up since 288 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,080 then is we had uh three fires in one day 289 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,320 in town. 290 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Uh one was a um 291 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,200 RV camper trailer that 292 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,480 burned down 293 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,200 on private property. 294 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Um another one was um an industrial fire 295 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,680 that And then the last one 296 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,880 was actually um 297 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,800 I guess 298 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,000 I don't want to call it arson, but it 299 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,720 was a criminal. They arrested the 300 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,000 guy. Um 301 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 unfortunately, he's been let out on 302 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,520 conditions. 303 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Um he deliberately lit a fire down in 304 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,920 the tunnel area and walked away from it. 305 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,560 He did appear in front of a judge and he 306 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,600 was let out on conditions. 307 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,920 So, something I want to ask council 308 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,440 is I want 309 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,560 um 310 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:04,240 I'd like for us to write uh 311 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,960 a victim impact statement on behalf of 312 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,160 the community 313 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,640 cuz they've put the entire community in 314 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,760 a state of 315 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,440 uh fear 316 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,600 and panic. And also 317 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,680 something that I've been discussing with 318 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:17,800 uh 319 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,280 the RCMP 320 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 and I think it's something we should 321 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,960 attempt to do is I want to write a 322 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,720 letter to Crown prosecutors 323 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,520 asking that 324 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 they um 325 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,000 try to get the maximum sentence on this. 326 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,480 But also 327 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,600 I think we should be asking for a 328 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,870 um 329 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,520 What do they call it? 330 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,680 It's where they say you can't come back 331 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,960 to town. So they can uh 332 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,080 the a judge can make a decision to keep 333 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,040 you from coming back to a community for 334 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,000 a certain amount of time. And I think if 335 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,360 somebody's willing to try to burn our 336 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,040 community down, then uh it's uh the 337 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,280 least we can do is ask the Crown counsel 338 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,240 to 339 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,040 push for that as part of the ruling. 340 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,320 And just show people that if you're not 341 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,480 going to be part of our community, then 342 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,800 we don't want you 343 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,839 in our community right now. So 344 00:13:08,839 --> 00:13:10,320 um 345 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,400 I guess we can add that as a new 346 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,000 business item. 347 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Carrie? 348 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,240 >> I'm just writing it all down. 349 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,040 >> Okay. 350 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,000 And then uh 351 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,200 And if uh we're successful, then I think 352 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,560 it's something that we can ask for in 353 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,800 the future as well. Um 354 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,880 I think if you break the social 355 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 contract, then you need to be 356 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,120 dealt with as such. And uh 357 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,360 We have a 358 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,000 I think we have people in positions of 359 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,640 authority right now who will support us 360 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,320 on those requests. So, 361 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,320 we just need to get Crown to convince a 362 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,080 judge of that. 363 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,720 >> Yeah, I was just going to ask if you had 364 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,120 any idea of what the temperature in the 365 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,160 RCMP office would be related to this. 366 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 >> I believe I could say with certainty 367 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,800 that we have full support of our uh 368 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,760 current RCMP detachment to uh 369 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,560 try to get the maximum sentence on 370 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,240 everything that we can get on. It's It's 371 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,200 really not up to any of us. I mean, this 372 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,120 is a new approach. Um 373 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,440 if council wants to go that way. 374 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 And I think it's I think it's needed. I 375 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,360 think the certain individuals that are 376 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 doing certain these things um 377 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,200 need to be 378 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,240 It needs to be shown that 379 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,240 the community doesn't want 380 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,160 If you If you're not going to 381 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,520 participate in our community, then we 382 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 don't want you as part of our community. 383 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,080 So. 384 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,960 >> I would make that motion. 385 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,520 >> Well, we'll do that in the new new 386 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:36,920 business. 387 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,480 >> For the new business? 388 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,080 >> Yes. 389 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,240 >> Okay. 390 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,640 >> This is just a report. So. 391 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,360 >> Right. 392 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,550 >> Yeah. 393 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 » Is there any 394 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Carrier, Lyler, and Spencer, is there 395 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,640 any notification of what court cases are 396 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,560 coming up prior to? 397 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,240 >> Sort of. 398 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,950 Go ahead. 399 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,560 » There's monthly court lists, yeah. 400 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,280 >> Yeah. 401 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,000 >> But usually the docket's not confirmed 402 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,320 right away. Like it's not months in 403 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:05,560 advance. 404 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,040 >> We wouldn't have advance notice of 405 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,600 What I'm getting at is that we years ago 406 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 we instituted a court watch 407 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,680 so that 408 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 there was an observer there on behalf of 409 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,720 council just to bring back 410 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,560 uh information about the what cases went 411 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,080 on and what the 412 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,280 penalties were and whatever, just so 413 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,480 that 414 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,960 we could do exactly what he's talking 415 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,520 about in terms of 416 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,320 um 417 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,080 giving information. 418 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,440 What we were going through at the time 419 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,240 was high drug problems. And so we tried 420 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,160 to 421 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:40,840 um 422 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,840 put pressure on um 423 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,320 you know, fines and whatever with regard 424 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,600 to drugs. 425 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,360 And to me, 426 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,680 if we're going to keep going through 427 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,520 this summertime 428 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 fire thing every year, it seems like, 429 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,440 then 430 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,880 I couldn't agree with you more in terms 431 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,920 of 432 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,000 um if we had an idea of what if any fire 433 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,240 ones were coming up, that you'd have a 434 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,760 court watch person there to to observe 435 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,320 it and then bring it back to council and 436 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,800 say and then we would then 437 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,720 pass on information 438 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,840 to if you're going to do it through the prosecutors or you're going to do it 439 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,640 through the judges, whatever. 440 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,920 >> Well, and I think we should extend it 441 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,160 not to just fires, but to repeat 442 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,760 offenders. 443 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Um to 444 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,000 other things as well. Like, 445 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120 you know, like we need to 446 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,920 I think we need to make make it very 447 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,000 clear to judges that the community is 448 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,120 tired of certain things 449 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,920 and try to convince them 450 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,520 that 451 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,640 one, we don't have the resources to keep 452 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,680 throwing at this. Right? Like, we we 453 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,600 know when we have a a a a rash of, you 454 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,880 know, these small crimes like where 455 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,440 people are stealing from yards and 456 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,000 everything else, 457 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 the RCMP know who they are. They pick 458 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,400 them up, they're put them they're let 459 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,400 back out. So they're trying to get as 460 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,240 many charges as they can on these people 461 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,120 before they they get them in front of a 462 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,319 judge. 463 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:12,400 But if we know these things are 464 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,040 happening and then when they do go, like 465 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,319 they go to Oliver for a for a while, 466 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,680 Oliver everything just comes goes quiet. 467 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Right? And then they get out and then 468 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,199 they come back to the community and what 469 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:26,079 do they do? It all starts up again. So, 470 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,520 I think if we get involved, the council 471 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,160 gets involved, and we write these impact 472 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 statements, and we start sending letters 473 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,760 requesting for the maximum or for these 474 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,680 I forget what they're called, but the 475 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,360 restrictions to the community. It shows 476 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,400 that we're tired of it and it's got to 477 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,480 be dealt with and maybe maybe then 478 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,080 judges will 479 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,760 work with us a little bit more cuz right 480 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,800 now 481 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,600 I mean, Kelowna's done I don't know how 482 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,160 much money they've spent on on research 483 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 and 484 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,720 like the the the prime or the majority of the crime is being 485 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,320 caused by a small handful of people 486 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,360 who have like 487 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,000 rap sheets longer than 488 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,320 all of our 489 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,240 you know, 490 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,560 everything that we have here. Like it's insane and why are we doing this? 491 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Like why is this an ongoing thing? And 492 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,680 if the if the government isn't going to 493 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,040 change the laws to to protect us, then I 494 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,400 think we need to start standing up in a 495 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,920 way and we have I think we have a 496 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,160 sergeant that will work with us and and 497 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,800 ask for the same 498 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,800 you know, work with us on on trying to 499 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,880 do this thing this stuff because 500 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,120 it's 501 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,680 something's got to give here. 502 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,680 >> So, it's important to note that there's 503 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,000 different levels of um 504 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,120 offenses too. Right? You've got your municipal offenses that we can do 505 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:50,120 under the offense act and and that we do 506 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,120 with our bylaws. And then there's the 507 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,080 criminal offenses and then and then 508 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,720 determine on 509 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,200 the criminal code that can be charged on 510 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,320 it goes to prosecution like to crown 511 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,360 council. But I think the biggest thing 512 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,640 is if it [clears throat] comes to a 513 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,600 where it is a criminal offense and the 514 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,160 RCMP 515 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,480 are able to charge them, then we have to 516 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,280 do like you were saying, 517 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 support the local RCMP and and I agree 518 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,240 with writing a victim impact statement 519 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,000 because it's a I think that's a great 520 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,120 idea. Um there's a not a lot that we can 521 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:25,880 do to 522 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,000 I I wouldn't 523 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,160 think we could um 524 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,200 ask for exclusions, but if there's 525 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,720 history and they've got the the cases of 526 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,000 the repeat offenders, then supporting 527 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,080 the RCMP is the way to go for building 528 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,080 their case to give to the prosecution. 529 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,920 >> I I think we should ask for exclusions. 530 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,440 I think we we're the we're the ones that represent the 531 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,560 community 532 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,480 and our community is asking for 533 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,880 something to happen. So, I don't think 534 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,120 it's unreasonable to ask Crown 535 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,000 prosecutors to try to get those 536 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 exclusions. Maybe the judges won't go 537 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,040 for it, but if they keep hearing that we 538 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,400 have certain people that we don't want 539 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,360 here 540 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,560 and it's for what? 6 months or whatever. 541 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,040 >> going to charge 542 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,480 >> It's not forever, but we're sending this message that we are 543 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,440 we're tired of it, right? We just wrote 544 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,480 a letter to um 545 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,760 the um 546 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Attorney General asking for more court 547 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,200 time because bylaw has been told that 548 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,520 court time's at a premium and the only 549 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,000 way we're going to get court time is if 550 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,080 we 551 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,640 you know, get the Attorney General to or 552 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,160 yeah, Attorney General to approve more 553 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,680 court time for Princeton. So, we're 554 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,400 asking for like one extra day per 555 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,000 quarter just to deal with, you know, 556 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,520 civil and and and municipal stuff 557 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,680 because 558 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,960 the court services are like, we don't 559 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,240 have time for you guys. So, all the good 560 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,200 work that we're doing, like now it's 561 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,960 stuck in the queue somewhere. So, I 562 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,800 think it just needs to be shown like you 563 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,160 have to invest in this stuff and you 564 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,520 have to start working with communities 565 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,480 cuz 566 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,160 I don't know. I'm I'm tired of it. I've 567 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,720 been tired of it for ages. 568 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,800 >> I'm I'm agreeing that we the biggest 569 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800 impact you can do is supporting the RCMP 570 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,160 and that's the way to go, right? Like 571 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840 showing that that what the impact is, 572 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,240 especially if there's a history of 573 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240 damage that that our staff can prove, 574 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,030 too. 575 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,520 » Okay, there's no more questions on that. 576 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,480 We'll go to correspondence receiving 577 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,520 file. 578 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,200 We have three letters there. 579 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,760 The Ombudsman 580 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000 update from April 1st to 3rd June 30th. 581 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,160 The Corporation of the Village of Slocan 582 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,360 asking for a continuation of the local 583 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,640 government climate action program 584 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,680 funding and the City of Salmon Arm BC 585 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,600 government climate action 586 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,200 program funding continuation. 587 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,880 Get a motion to receive. I'll move for 588 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,840 receipt. Thank you. Councillor McLean, 589 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,800 second. 590 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Councillor Gold, any questions? All in 591 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,720 favor? Carried. And then we'll go to new 592 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,560 business and that's 593 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,080 the 594 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,880 to write a letter and then a victim 595 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,640 impact statement for Crown. 596 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,200 >> Can we amend the agenda? Can I get a 597 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,160 motion to add it? 598 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,840 >> Sure. 599 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Motion to add it? 600 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,080 >> Please. 601 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,400 >> Sure. Thank you. Councillor Elliott, 602 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,200 Councillor McLean, all in favor? 603 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Okay. Now, a motion to 604 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,840 >> I've already made that motion. 605 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,720 >> Okay. Councillor Elliott's making the 606 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,960 motion. Second? 607 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,120 Thank you. Councillor McLean, all in 608 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,510 favor? 609 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,040 No, he was I He was fast [laughter] on 610 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,680 that one. 611 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,880 Okay. 612 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,720 So, that passed. And then a motion to 613 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,800 adjourn. 614 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,360 >> So moved. 615 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:34,555 >> Thank you. 616 00:22:34,555 --> 00:22:35,120 >> [laughter] 617 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,040 >> Yeah, you want to get me You want to get 618 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,600 my attention? 619 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,320 >> the jeopardy button. 620 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,560 >> Councillor McLean, all in favor? All in 621 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,760 favor? Carried. Thank you and good night 622 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,320 everybody. 623 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560 We close at 5:30.