1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,310 where you are. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,080 » I am taking care of my children. Um 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,640 they my wife was away and I needed to to 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,040 take care of them and watch them. 5 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:13,840 >> Okay, great. So, you're participating 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 remotely. Um does he need to say if 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,200 there's anyone in the room that's 18 or 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,640 older? 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Matt, 10 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,160 is there anyone in the room with you? 11 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,480 >> There there's no one else in the room 12 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,120 right now. Just me. 13 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,840 >> Perfect. Thank you. Um has the agenda 14 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,200 been posted? 15 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,160 >> Yes, Mayor. 16 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,320 >> Any changes to the agenda? 17 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,360 >> No, Mayor. 18 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,440 >> So, number three, because this is a 19 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,560 special meeting, all public comment for 20 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,000 the other um 21 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,760 three items um will be taken right now. 22 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 So, um for people who have public 23 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,520 comment on I items four, five, or six, 24 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,240 not general public comment, but just 25 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,440 pertaining to those three items, um 26 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,960 please come to the podium and 27 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:13,310 make your public comment. 28 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,310 » I can mute myself. 29 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,520 Good evening, um Mayor McMillan and Ross 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Town Council members. I am here today to 31 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,160 formally request that the Town Council 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,080 agendize this evening a motion to take 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,040 up during its September Council meeting. 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,920 This agenda item should instruct the 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Town Manager, in conjunction with the 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Town Treasurer, to produce a detailed 37 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,200 accounting of all costs incurred by our 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,040 town on the fourth issue {slash} 39 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,320 initiative. 40 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,720 The report should itemize the following: 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,360 legal expenses, staff's time, the 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,040 special meeting at Marin Art and Garden 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Center, and the election code report. 44 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Once the final expenditures of our 45 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,240 town's resources is known, the Town 46 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Council must instruct the Town Attorney 47 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,040 to make a formal demand on the Friends 48 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 of Ross Fire forth for full 49 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 reimbursement and slash restitution of 50 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,080 any and all municipal expenditures 51 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 incurred by the town of Ross related to 52 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,640 forth's flawed and untenable ballot 53 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:12,280 initiative. 54 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,920 As I've noted in prior communications, 55 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:15,200 the town of Ross has been forced to 56 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,920 expend significant taxpayer resources 57 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,640 including an estimate of $85,000 in 58 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:23,200 unanticipated consultant fees to address 59 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,760 a ballot measure that was fundamentally 60 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,920 flawed from its inception. 61 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:28,600 Recent reports including the Citizens 62 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Advisory Committee findings have served 63 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,280 as formal acknowledgement that forth's 64 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,440 own admission, the goal of staffing and 65 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,920 maintaining a fully functional fire 66 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,200 department at the Ross Civic Complex is 67 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,080 no longer realistically objective. 68 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,200 For over a year this community has 69 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,720 endured misinformation that has 70 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,200 fractured our town and compromised our 71 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,280 standing with Marine County agencies. 72 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Throughout the process the town has 73 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,400 acted in good faith adopting resolutions 74 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,959 to evaluate alternative designs and 75 00:02:52,959 --> 00:02:55,080 expending significant resources. 76 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,440 It is only equitable that the 77 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,040 organization responsible for these 78 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 extraordinary unnecessary costs be held 79 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,720 financially accountable. Forth has 80 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,920 publicly claimed that they have raised 81 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:05,239 hundreds of thousands of dollars in 82 00:03:05,239 --> 00:03:08,760 donations. As a 501c4 entity, these 83 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,959 funds should now be utilized to 84 00:03:09,959 --> 00:03:12,400 reimburse the taxpayers of Ross for the 85 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,720 administrative or legal costs squandered 86 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,160 on the initiative that forth eventually 87 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,239 admitted was untenable. Just as a 88 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:19,959 resident pays for services of the town 89 00:03:19,959 --> 00:03:22,600 arborist when requesting tree removal, 90 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,920 forth must be held to the same standard 91 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:27,200 of financial responsibility for their 92 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 municipal work that they have mandated. 93 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,120 I'm asking the council take the 94 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,280 following actions. Agendize a 95 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,959 discussion, schedule a formal agenda 96 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:36,760 item to discuss the financial impact of 97 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,200 the forth initiative on the town's 98 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,400 reserve. 99 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Instruct the town attorney, direct the 100 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,959 town attorney to issue a formal demand 101 00:03:42,959 --> 00:03:44,880 to forth for reimbursement of all 102 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,519 consultant fees, staff time, and legal 103 00:03:46,519 --> 00:03:49,519 expenses related to the June 2026 ballot 104 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:52,000 initiative within 30 days of notice. 105 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,760 And I require that Forfe make uh their 106 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,320 finances uh 107 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,400 public to ensure the donations are not 108 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,800 being hoarded while the town's general 109 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,480 fund it bears the burden of their 110 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 campaign. We as residents deserve a 111 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,680 swift resolution, the return of taxpayer 112 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,800 dollars. Accountability must come with 113 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,800 public demand for restitution. In my 114 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 opinion, Bob Hurst, president Forfe, 115 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,800 should write this reimbursement check 116 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,079 before his name appears on the of 117 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,079 November ballot. Respectfully, Michael 118 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,480 Roosevelt. 119 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Perfect. 120 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,000 >> Anyone else in the chamber with public 121 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,880 comment on the three agenda items? 122 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Anybody online with public comment? 123 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,880 >> No one online, Mayor. 124 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,000 >> So, we're moving to item number four, 125 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,560 which is Town Council to decide to 126 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,040 decide if it wants to adopt resolution 127 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,440 number 2648 128 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,080 approving a professional services 129 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,840 contract with Gensler Inc. for 130 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,400 facilities master plan amendment 131 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,919 services in an amount not to exceed 132 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:51,510 $286,879, 133 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,680 establishing a facilities master plan 134 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,720 amendment project with a total project 135 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,480 budget of $320,000, 136 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,919 appropriating $320,000 137 00:05:00,919 --> 00:05:02,960 from the undesignated operating fund 138 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 balance in the fiscal year 2026-2027 139 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,600 budget for implementation of the 140 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,960 project, and authorizing the town 141 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,919 manager to execute the professional 142 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:14,720 services agreement with Gensler Inc. 143 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Town Manager Johnson. 144 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,200 >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh there is a a 145 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 lengthier uh staff report in your agenda 146 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,400 packet. I'll just uh summarize. Um if 147 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,960 you recall on May 6th of of this year, 148 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,480 the Town Council adopted resolution 2623 149 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,600 directing me to initiate an amendment to 150 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,320 the facilities master plan utilizing the 151 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,800 CAC concept as the preferred alternative 152 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,040 to concept B subject to further 153 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,080 technical, operational, and financial 154 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,840 analysis by the town. This resolution 155 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:47,560 further directed that the amendment 156 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,200 process include pre comprehensive 157 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,480 preparation of a comprehensive project 158 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,240 scope and a fully burdened cost estimate 159 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,680 including updated space programming, 160 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,760 infrastructure analysis, parking 161 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,320 analysis, public works operational 162 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,560 requirements, public safety operational 163 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,960 requirements, and preparation of a fully 164 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 burdened project cost estimate. The 165 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 resolution also directs that any 166 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,360 amendment continues to support the 167 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,880 town's affordable housing objectives and 168 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,440 include stakeholder engagement 169 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,560 throughout the process. 170 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,240 So, consistent with town council 171 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,400 direction, staff issued a competitive 172 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 request for proposals, 173 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,560 um, 174 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,560 also called a RFP, seeking professional 175 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,960 planning, architectural, and technical 176 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,840 consulting services to prepare a 177 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,560 facility master plan amendment. Five 178 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,640 proposals were received. 179 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Town staff completed a technical 180 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,000 evaluation of all the proposals 181 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,240 utilizing the evaluation criteria 182 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,640 established in the RFP document. 183 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Following staff evaluation, the town 184 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 council subcommittee of Mayor uh 185 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,080 McMillan and Mayor Pro Tem Robbins and 186 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,040 staff reviewed the proposals and 187 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,840 selected the three highest ranked firms 188 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,400 for interviews. 189 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Following the interviews, town staff 190 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,160 deliberated further and entered into 191 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,240 negotiations with Gensler to refine the 192 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,600 scope of work and budget, clarify 193 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 project deliverables, reduce overall 194 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,400 costs, and address the accelerated 195 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,080 project schedule. 196 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 The final negotiated proposal with 197 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Gensler includes a comprehensive work 198 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 plan attached as exhibit A to the 199 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,640 professional services agreement, and 200 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,919 that is attached to the staff report in 201 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:34,680 your agenda packet. 202 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Gensler's proposal provides a 12-week 203 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,200 work program with completion anticipated 204 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,800 at the end of October, that's this year. 205 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,960 The plan amendment schedule is intended 206 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,480 to support subsequent town council 207 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 consideration of financing alternatives 208 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,440 and and if directed by the town council, 209 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,800 preparation for placement of a potential 210 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,080 general block obligation bond measure on 211 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 a 2027 ballot. 212 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,360 Through the negotiation process, town 213 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,600 staff worked with Gensler to refine the 214 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,840 project scope, clarify deliverables, and 215 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,280 eliminate work not essential to 216 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,480 completion of the facilities master plan 217 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,960 amendment. 218 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,640 As a result of our staff work, 219 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,480 the proposed professional services 220 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,320 agreement was a reduced by approximately 221 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 $169,000, 222 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,919 which is approximately a 38% 223 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:32,640 reduction from Gensler's original 224 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,560 proposal. 225 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,840 While preserving the core planning, 226 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,840 engineering evaluation, cost estimating, 227 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,000 and facilities master plan amendment 228 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,120 services necessary to meet the town 229 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,320 council's objectives. 230 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,920 Gensler's scope of work balances 231 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,320 technical analysis, cost, and schedule 232 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,839 while while intentionally limiting the 233 00:08:54,839 --> 00:08:58,360 assignment to planning level validation 234 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 rather than advancing into schematic 235 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,839 architectural design. 236 00:09:02,839 --> 00:09:05,200 Exhibit A to the professional services 237 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,240 agreement contains a detailed project 238 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,200 work plan identifying project 239 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,839 milestones, meetings, deliverables, 240 00:09:12,839 --> 00:09:15,280 consultant coordination, engineering 241 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,320 evaluations, cost estimating, 242 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,600 preparation of the actual amended 243 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 facilities master plan document, and the 244 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,680 project schedule schedule necessary to 245 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:28,760 complete the amendment um before the end 246 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,440 of October 2026. 247 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,200 um 248 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,440 A Gensler scope of work also identifies 249 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,360 information that is required to be 250 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,400 provided by the town 251 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 including a site engineering or called a 252 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,560 topographical survey and existing 253 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:48,851 building a laser scan documentation. 254 00:09:48,851 --> 00:09:50,600 >> [cough] 255 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,440 >> Excuse me. 256 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Town staff have already begun the 257 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,120 contracting process to get this work 258 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,320 completed ASAP. 259 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,960 The total project budget is 325,000 260 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,270 dollars which includes 286,879 261 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,120 for the professional services agreement 262 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,360 with Gensler. 263 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Then the rest of the project budget 264 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480 includes um 32,450 265 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,640 for completion of the additional owner 266 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,640 directed work. 267 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,200 And it also includes a minor amount 268 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,080 5,600 or so for minor expenses that 269 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,880 might arise. 270 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,080 So as mentioned, the 12-week timeline 271 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,600 for this project is very aggressive. 272 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Assuming council approval tonight, 273 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,760 town staff has a kickoff meeting 274 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,200 scheduled on Monday with the 275 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,560 consultants. 276 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,160 We anticipate needing to hold several 277 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,200 special meetings with the council during 278 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,920 this 12-week period to keep the project 279 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,520 moving forward and I will gratefully 280 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,520 accept the council's previously stated 281 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 offer to meet as often as needed and ask 282 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,640 that the council set aside the fourth 283 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Thursday of the coming months, more 284 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,200 specifically August 27th, 285 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,200 September 24th, 286 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,000 October 22nd, and November 19th, which 287 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,880 is actually the third Thursday in 288 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,040 November because I don't think you want 289 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,520 to meet on Thanksgiving 290 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,080 for potential meetings. And so I will 291 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,600 ask our town clerk to send um 292 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,720 Outlook notifications to the council so 293 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,400 that you have that. 294 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Um if and the good news is it'll be on 295 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,160 your calendar. For some reason we don't 296 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,520 need them, we can cancel them, but um 297 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,440 that's what we need to do in order to to 298 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,960 move this project forward and meet that 12-week timeline. 299 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,280 Uh, in summary, approval of the proposed 300 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,000 agreement via resolution number 2648, 301 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 which is in your packet, 302 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,960 this will authorize preparation of a 303 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,000 comprehensive amendment to the 2023 304 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,800 facilities master plan that will 305 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 validate and refine the town council's 306 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,160 preferred civic center concept, update 307 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,440 project costs, and implementation 308 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,960 strategies, and provide the technical 309 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,520 foundation 310 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,920 for future environmental review, 311 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,120 financing, and consideration of a 312 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,880 potential 2027 bond measure. The 313 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,840 proposed agreement that is in your 314 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 packet represents the culmination of a 315 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 competitive procurement process and 316 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,880 successful negotiations that have 317 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,600 resulted in a technically comprehensive 318 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,240 schedule-driven scope of work 319 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,640 appropriate for the amendment of the 320 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 facility master plan. Approval of the 321 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,800 agreement will allow the town to 322 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,120 complete the technical evaluation 323 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,240 directed by the town council and 324 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,360 position the town to consider future 325 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,520 financing and implementation decisions. 326 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,440 So, specifically, it is recommended that 327 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,320 the town council hold this public 328 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,440 hearing this evening and decide if it 329 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,800 wants to adopt resolution number 2648, 330 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,680 which will approve a professional 331 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,200 services agreement with Gensler 332 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,320 for facility master plan amendment 333 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,520 services in an amount not to exceed 334 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,790 $286,879. 335 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,880 It will establish a facilities master 336 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,720 plan amendment project in the budget 337 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,920 with a total project budget of 320,000. 338 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,240 It will appropriate 320,000 339 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,800 from the undesignated operating fund 340 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,040 balance in the current fiscal year 341 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,640 2026-2027 342 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,800 for implementation of the project during 343 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,600 this current fiscal year, 344 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,400 and it will authorize me, the town 345 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 manager, to execute the professional 346 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,080 services agreement with Gensler. The 347 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,440 Gensler has already signed the 348 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,640 agreement, and a copy of it is in your 349 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,120 packet. 350 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Thank you for the opportunity to 351 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,240 >> Thank you, Krista. What 352 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Sorry? 353 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,910 Okay. Questions, council members? 354 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,444 Matt, any questions? 355 00:13:56,444 --> 00:13:56,680 >> [clears throat] 356 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:03,310 >> Then we will move it to discussion. 357 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,040 » Well, 358 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,280 I'll mention one thing. Oh, thank you, 359 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Krista. Um 360 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,320 it's a great contract, and um 361 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,240 I mean, I think everyone's so delighted 362 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,240 that we can move forward with the 363 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Gensler plan, which 364 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,720 uh has such widespread support. That it 365 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,920 one thing to focus on now now that we've 366 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,080 launched our project, that, you know, 367 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,320 the most important thing is to get 368 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,240 community support behind the project, 369 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,800 you know, and and as you mentioned in 370 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,839 the resolution to include um 371 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:33,440 engage with stakeholders to provide 372 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,560 input during the process. I mean, people 373 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,240 having community members at the table 374 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,040 who then take this project out to the 375 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200 community is is probably the best way 376 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,920 for us to make sure that we get the bond 377 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:50,920 measure passed. And um and and on that topic, um I know that 378 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,280 some of the CAC people, uh especially 379 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Dan Weinick, has said has offered to be 380 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,720 part of of some of the uh meetings going 381 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,640 forward, which I think we should 382 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,920 certainly consider. Where, you know, 383 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,520 he's a big player behind this and has 384 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,920 helped us get to this point with this 385 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,240 beautiful project. And uh you know, so I think that um we 386 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,160 should at least consider and not, you 387 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,440 know, they're not the contract we're 388 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,920 going to approve, but but just how we 389 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,880 run some of the meetings, and can we 390 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,800 have community members there also, 391 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,480 especially Dan who's who we're lucky 392 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,680 said he would be willing to come to our 393 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,480 to meetings so that we can have this as 394 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,680 a community you know, with led by Krista 395 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,640 and and David but also community members 396 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,680 to help us get it out to the community 397 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,240 to get it approved for a bond measure. 398 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,430 So, that's my comment. 399 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 » Any other comments? 400 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 I I think the beauty of what Krista is 401 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,640 proposing is that there will probably be 402 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,480 two meetings a month where the public 403 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 and community members and we can 404 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,520 participate and give feedback. 405 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,680 So, um I think that's built into what 406 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,160 you've said. 407 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Um 408 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,840 any other comments? 409 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,000 >> I was just going to say I I really like 410 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,520 the idea of having stakeholders 411 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,240 participate cuz the 412 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,160 it in hearing what's going on and I 413 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 think of stakeholders as age-friendly 414 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Ross and other groups, school. 415 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,200 So, 416 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,560 parts of the community that will be 417 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 involved in voting for the geo bond. So, 418 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,680 >> I I I think that's key that everyone 419 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,480 feels that I mean even if everything 420 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 goes beautifully, everybody wants to be 421 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,280 a part of it going forward and and that 422 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,920 will get engagement and votes so that's 423 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:35,839 where 424 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:37,400 I you know, I I think we'll have to 425 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,000 decide you know, how many people come to 426 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,160 I mean everyone come to council 427 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,040 meetings. Should people also be um and 428 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,880 especially like our our design people 429 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,480 from the CAC, should any of them come to 430 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 some of the you know, the other meetings 431 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,000 with Gensler cuz they do have building 432 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,320 skills so that's something to think 433 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,030 about going forward. 434 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,200 » Uh Um thank you. I don't I don't want 435 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,400 our mayor pro tem to leave this meeting 436 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,720 under the impression that 437 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,880 anybody except town staff and our team 438 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,160 and and of course Gensler, our project 439 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,959 team which actually doesn't include Don 440 00:17:11,959 --> 00:17:13,680 Dan Winey. He's not on their project 441 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,319 team as they 442 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,640 presented. I had nothing to do with who they 443 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,199 identified as their project members. 444 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:24,280 So, um you know, we will uh absolutely 445 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,640 this is going to be coming forward to 446 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,000 the council 447 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,120 very often in this 12-week period of 448 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,800 time. And um 449 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,720 that will be the opportunity. And uh we 450 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,400 can certainly do uh working with the 451 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,560 town clerk and his enhanced um 452 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,600 community engagement skills do our most 453 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,160 to like get the word out about the 454 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,120 special meetings and and hopefully 455 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,840 what's going to happen at that meeting. 456 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,680 What decision points are being brought 457 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,520 to the council to really to engage the 458 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,840 community to come to the meetings. Um 459 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,880 but that that So, that happens in a 460 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,360 public setting 461 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,480 with all five council members here. Um 462 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,960 it's very transparent. Everybody hears 463 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,520 the same thing. And in the meantime, 464 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,240 staff is busy working with the Gensler 465 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,160 project team to to get the stuff done 466 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,760 because it is 467 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,680 um you know, Gensler is the one that 468 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,440 proposed the 12-week turnaround time. 469 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,240 The council subcommittee was very 470 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,400 supportive of that 471 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,080 12-week turnaround time. And it is um 472 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,800 it's going to be super challenging to 473 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,280 get it done. We won't be able to have um 474 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,760 lots of other extra meetings um 475 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,960 to it just won't you know, you you could 476 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,280 do that if you were willing to extend 477 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,880 the time that you're conducting. If you 478 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,120 recall, the first facilities master plan 479 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,520 project took well over a year. Several 480 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,320 meetings with the council, several 481 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 meetings with the public. And so, you 482 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,360 know, you're it's difficult for us to 483 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:01,960 get it all. And so, in order to get this 484 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080 done in 12 weeks, in order to get it 485 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,040 done in what I consider to be a 486 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,360 reasonable cost, which is still by the 487 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,080 way twice as expensive as the first 488 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,320 facilities master plan, 489 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,920 this is what we you know, this is what 490 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,240 we need to do. 491 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Take advantage of the council's very 492 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,280 generous 493 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,840 um offer to meet as much as needed. 494 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,400 And um everybody will be hearing the 495 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,160 same thing and 496 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,150 lots of opportunities. 497 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,360 » Any other comments? 498 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,200 >> Can I just say um that I remember when 499 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,600 the original master plan was being 500 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,400 vetted in the community. There was a lot 501 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,280 of community meetings. 502 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Um and so I realized that time is so 503 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,680 short, so it's going to have to be 504 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,120 abbreviated 505 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,400 if we have any. But having people from 506 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,960 the community come to our town council 507 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,080 meeting, so it's public, makes perfect 508 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,200 sense to me. Um I just want to thank you 509 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,800 cuz I know that there wasn't much time 510 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,960 since the last time the council met and 511 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,040 today 512 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,280 to put together to do the interviews, to 513 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,320 negotiate the contract, to get 514 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,600 everything set up for the special 515 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 meeting. So I really want to thank you 516 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,880 and the staff for going sort of above 517 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,240 and beyond to make it possible to have 518 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,280 this meeting tonight. So thank you. 519 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,720 >> And I also want to just reflect on where 520 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520 we are versus where we were. Um in 521 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,360 January, we were having a very 522 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:27,760 contentious 523 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,480 discussion about options and trying to 524 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,080 go forward. Um thanks to the citizens 525 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,440 advisory committee and Jeff and Dan and 526 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,120 all the members um 527 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:41,560 who came up with I think a brilliant 528 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,760 compromise um and with Gensler's input, 529 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,120 with Dan Whiney's input, um 530 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,640 I think this is a really huge milestone 531 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 um building consensus and turning a 532 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 corner for our community. So I am really 533 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440 optimistic that 534 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,040 we will get this done in 12 weeks. We 535 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760 will be able to have good 536 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,840 financing information to put something 537 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,880 on a 538 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,800 general obligation bond ballot hopefully 539 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,200 in March of 2027 540 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,680 and get the this project started and 541 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,120 delivered in order to keep the 542 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,360 paramedics here and deliver a new 543 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:24,000 facility to them by January of 2029. 544 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,200 So 545 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,800 and and you know, this would not have 546 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,360 happened I don't think without Forths 547 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,520 effort. So I want to also thank Forth 548 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,960 for pushing hard and going forward and 549 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,960 there was a lot of controversy and 550 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,600 heated discussions, um, but I think you 551 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,960 have helped us reach a beautiful place 552 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,080 with a 553 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,840 gorgeous facility and turn the corner 554 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,680 and we can 555 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520 preserve the option 556 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,760 of dealing with the fire station and 557 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,280 operations down the road but we can 558 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,120 deal with the building now and that's 559 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,480 what everybody needs and wants. 560 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,160 So I think we need a motion. 561 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,440 >> I'll make a I'll move that we adopt a 562 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,760 resolution number 2648. 563 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,990 >> Second. 564 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,640 » Motion by Councilmember Dowling second 565 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,880 by Mayor Pro Tem Robbins. 566 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Mayor McMillan. 567 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,560 >> Yes. 568 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,040 >> Mayor Pro Tem Robbins. 569 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:24,760 >> Yes. 570 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,160 >> Councilmember Kutscher. 571 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,920 >> Yes. 572 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,720 >> Councilmember Dowling. 573 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,440 >> Yes. 574 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,040 >> Councilmember Salter. 575 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,880 >> Yes. 576 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,960 >> Motion passes unanimously 5-0. 577 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,160 >> So now we are going to take a brief 578 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:47,150 recess and we will resume in 5 minutes. 579 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Our 580 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,520 We are moving on to item number five. 581 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,280 Town Council to consider adopting 582 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,400 resolution number 2647 583 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440 one acknowledging the proponents timely 584 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720 withdrawal of the Friends of Firehouse 585 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,120 Initiative under election codes 586 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:09,520 elections code section 9215.5 587 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,200 and rescinding resolution number 2609 588 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,800 which ordered the initiative submitted 589 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,680 to the voters and requested 590 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,240 consolidation with the November 3rd, 591 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,120 2026 election and requesting the Marin 592 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,960 County Board of Supervisors and County 593 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Elections Official to remove the measure 594 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,120 from the November 3rd, 2026 consolidated 595 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,280 ballot. 596 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Krista. 597 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,750 >> Thank you. Um 598 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Our Our town attorney, Miriam, has 599 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,040 kindly offered to give a brief staff 600 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,880 report. Thank you. 601 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280 >> give a very brief staff report. So, this 602 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,240 item will ask the council to adopt 603 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,160 resolution 2647 which does two things. 604 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,560 It acknowledges the proponent's timely 605 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,720 withdrawal of the fourth initiative and 606 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,080 it rescinds resolution 2609 607 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,880 and asks the Marin County to remove the 608 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,760 measure from the ballot. So, this is 609 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,800 largely requested from the county. They 610 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,880 asked us to adopt some kind of 611 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,120 resolution that acknowledges the 612 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,600 withdrawal and because we set in motion 613 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,400 a series of events with resolution 2609, 614 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 this resolution will unwind all of that 615 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,000 and ask that the county to remove from 616 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,160 the 617 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,920 remove the initiative from the ballot. 618 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 So, uh we have the withdrawal, a full 619 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040 withdrawal from the Friends of Ross 620 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Firehouse. It is uh 621 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080 full withdrawal that says this is uh 622 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,200 withdrawn that it will not appear on the 623 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 ballot and is now part of the record and 624 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,680 will be part of the resolution you adopt 625 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200 tonight. So, the 626 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 uh withdrawal is timely. You can uh 627 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,400 Proponents can withdraw anytime before 628 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,760 the 88th day before the election, which 629 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,280 is coming up actually very It's this 630 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,720 week. So, it is a timely withdrawal and 631 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,880 uh that's That's it. The action is 632 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,480 acknowledge the timely withdrawal 633 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,680 and rescind the past resolution. 634 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,960 And that's it. 635 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,160 Thank you, Miriam. Thank you. 636 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,150 >> Any questions from council members? 637 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,720 Stephanie, would you like to make a 638 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,870 public comment? 639 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,880 » I just wanted to make um 640 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,680 a brief statement. So, when Friends of 641 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,320 the Ross Fire House created the ballot 642 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,280 initiative a year and a half ago, we 643 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,320 really had three goals. One was to 644 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,560 preserve the architectural legacy of the 645 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,800 historic John White building, preserve 646 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,760 the option of restoring local fire 647 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840 operations and emergency response in the 648 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,920 future, and accomplish this in a 649 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,360 fiscally responsible fashion. And so, 650 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,680 with the CAC plan and Gensler as the 651 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,960 architect, we really feel that the town 652 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,800 is on the right path and we're it's a 653 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,160 great outcome for the citizens. It I 654 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,120 know it's been painful at times, but I 655 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,480 think we've really landed in a great 656 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,720 place and we hereby withdraw the 657 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 initiative. Thank you. 658 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400 >> Thank you, Stephanie. 659 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600 And thank you for accomplishing those 660 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240 goals. 661 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,240 Um all right, any discussion? 662 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,778 >> I have an 663 00:26:06,778 --> 00:26:06,960 >> [clears throat] 664 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,160 >> I don't know if you can hear me. 665 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,990 >> We can hear you. 666 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,160 » So, um I I think that this is a a 667 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,840 wonderful moment for our town. I really 668 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,560 appreciate the friends stepping forward 669 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,520 and withdrawing this measure and saving 670 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,920 the town from a very divisive campaign 671 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,680 in November. 672 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480 But I think that the goals should be 673 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,120 very clear that that the citizens have 674 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,000 spoken and I have no doubt in my mind 675 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520 that over 50% would have voted to 676 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,400 restore fire services in town and 677 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,720 medical. 678 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,720 And so, it's now upon us to follow 679 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560 through with this plan by building a 680 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 facility that can support an operational 681 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840 fire station. There are fires raging all 682 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240 over Europe in Canada 683 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480 in California in Sonoma County. They're 684 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,240 everywhere. And it's unconscionable as 685 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,720 people that are here to 686 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,880 elected to secure these people who've 687 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,880 left voted for us that we would close 688 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520 the fire station and not try to preserve 689 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240 the option to restore it when our people 690 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,400 and the society around us demands it. 691 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,828 So, I hope that 692 00:27:18,828 --> 00:27:19,080 >> [clears throat] 693 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,960 >> the council has heard the people whether 694 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,280 they have voted for this initiative or 695 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,280 not 696 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,400 and that we move forward to restore 697 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920 local fire services and medical in Ross 698 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,960 because that's what we're here to do. 699 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,710 Thank you. 700 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,350 » Any other comments in the discussion? 701 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,720 » I move we approve resolution 2647. 702 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,670 >> I'll second. 703 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040 » Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Robbins, second 704 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480 by Council Member Dowling. 705 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,240 Mayor McMillan? 706 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,560 >> Aye. 707 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,720 >> Mayor Pro Tem Robbins? 708 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,600 >> Aye. 709 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,880 >> Council Member Currier? 710 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,600 >> Aye. 711 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,560 >> Council Member Dowling? 712 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,200 >> Aye. 713 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,400 >> Council Member Salter? 714 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,280 >> Aye. 715 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:07,190 >> Motion passes unanimously 5-0. 716 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,800 » All right. Number six, Town Council to 717 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,560 consider approval of the argument 718 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,400 language in support of the Ross Valley 719 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Paramedic Authority parcel tax renewal 720 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800 measure to be submitted to the County of 721 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Marin Elections Office for the November 722 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800 3rd, 2026 general municipal election and 723 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,840 decide who should sign the argument on 724 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240 behalf of Council Members. 725 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,440 For example, Mayor, all five Council 726 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,840 Members, or a portion thereof. 727 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,120 Zach, is this your item? 728 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,560 >> It is, Mayor. 729 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Thank you, Mayor McMillan and Town 730 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Council Members. This item asks the 731 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,600 council to approve the argument in 732 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,360 support of the Ross Valley Paramedic 733 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Authority parcel tax renewal measure for 734 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280 the November 3rd election. 735 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,360 For decades, paramedic services in the 736 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Ross Valley have been funded by a 737 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,440 voter-approved parcel tax that supports 738 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360 trained paramedics on our fire engines 739 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,600 and ambulances. 740 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,880 That tax is set to expire, and on July 741 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,560 9th, the council voted to place a 742 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680 renewal measure on the November ballot. 743 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,120 Under the elections code, the council 744 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,080 may submit a written argument in favor 745 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 of the voter in favor for the voter information 746 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,320 guide, which the council has opted to 747 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,520 do. 748 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,680 The proposed argument, included as 749 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,880 attachment one, describes the purpose of 750 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,080 the renewal and the fiscal 751 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,080 accountability protections that apply, 752 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,560 including that the funds may be used 753 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,360 only for local paramedic services and 754 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,040 are subject to annual audits and public 755 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040 disclosure. I'll note that state law 756 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,920 limits the argument to 300 words with 757 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200 proper nouns, acronyms, numbers, and 758 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,280 dictionary-recognized hyphenated words 759 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,400 each counted as a single word. Since the 760 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,120 agenda was published, I identified that 761 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000 the current draft runs slightly over at 762 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520 305 words, and will need minor trimming 763 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120 before submission. 764 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,400 Amending and approving the argument has 765 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600 no direct fiscal impact on the town. 766 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400 If approved, it will be finalized and 767 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,120 submitted to me as the town's election 768 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560 official no later than August 14th, with 769 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,040 the deadline to be submitted to the 770 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Marin County Elections Office no later 771 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,000 than end of business on Monday, August 772 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,200 17th. 773 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960 The council's action tonight is twofold: 774 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320 amend and approve the argument language. 775 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080 I'm happy to answer any questions. 776 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560 >> Any questions? Um did you say that it's 777 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640 over 300 over 300 words? 778 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,760 >> Yes, Mayor Brechtal. It's 305 words. 779 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,000 >> So, we need to cut out five words. 780 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,320 >> Correct. 781 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,950 >> And I want to add two three words. 782 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,000 Um 783 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Well, we can word smith this pretty 784 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520 quickly by the on and the dash is 785 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,040 probably counting as two words. 786 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,960 >> Can we first see if we have it anybody 787 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,000 has any questions? 788 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,600 Okay. Now, we will move to 789 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,920 collective word smithing. 790 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 >> All right. Well, can I say something? 791 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,920 >> Yes, Bill. 792 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720 >> You know, I I went with I think we've 793 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,040 all been through this because we 794 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,960 submitted statements and the county has 795 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440 a certain way of counting words. Is that 796 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,800 the county saying this or is it local? 797 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,080 >> It is a mixture of myself and the 798 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,560 county. 799 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,160 >> I'm sorry, say again? 800 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,560 >> It's a combination of myself and the 801 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,200 county. 802 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,600 >> So, you have talked to the county. Okay, 803 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,240 because sometimes, you know, you can 804 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,040 what you think may be separate words, 805 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,040 you can count all as one word. 806 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,960 Okay, you've taken that into account? 807 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,320 >> I'm aware of that, Councilmember 808 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Kirtcher. 809 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,240 >> Thank you, sir. 810 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 >> I can offer a suggestion. 811 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,080 >> Sure. 812 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,240 >> Um 813 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 I can take out one word, local paramedic 814 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,840 funding is set. Take out the now is now 815 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,720 set. That's one word. And then go up to 816 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,360 1 2 3 4 817 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,160 >> one thing 818 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,160 >> 5 819 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400 >> If you just get rid of the on and the 820 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 dash and you just have voting yes will, 821 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 then we get rid of two words three times 822 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,280 without even editing. You see? 823 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,000 >> a good idea. 824 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,360 >> Yeah, cuz it says voting yes on and then 825 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,520 there's a dash. So, I'm thinking 826 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,880 assuming that on and the dash counts as 827 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,360 two words. All we need is voting yes. 828 00:31:53,360 --> 00:32:02,437 >> Does that work for you, Zach? 829 00:32:02,447 --> 00:32:02,840 » [clears throat] 830 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,520 >> It is my understanding that that dash is 831 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,680 a placeholder for the measured letter. 832 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,200 >> So, you're saying instead of saying 833 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960 voting yes on 834 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000 H, just vote yes. 835 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,600 >> If you take out all of those, then yes, 836 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,920 it would be under 300 words. 837 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,600 >> And and if somehow that doesn't work, 838 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,160 you can always if the that the 839 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,560 fourth bullet points is funds for 840 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200 measure may for measure X may only be 841 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520 used, it could just be funds may only be 842 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280 used for local paramedic services. 843 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240 That's if you need like something more 844 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,880 cuz that's the same thing. It's just it 845 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,480 kind of repeats the measure over and 846 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 over, but I think on and the dash gets 847 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,040 rid of it. Are you okay? 848 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,440 >> places where there's on and dash that we 849 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,560 could take those out. 850 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,000 >> Yep. 851 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,560 >> Right? So, take those out and 852 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,560 >> that should be eight. 853 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,297 >> Then I can get it get in my three words. 854 00:32:48,297 --> 00:32:49,080 >> [laughter] 855 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,560 >> Oh, that's Yeah, right. You 856 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,680 What What's your What are your three 857 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,200 words? 858 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320 >> me. I I wanted to and I think Council 859 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,040 Member Dowling started this off. Can you 860 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320 tell us where 861 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,040 what your suggestion was? 862 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440 >> What my five words were? 863 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,440 Is that what you're asking? 864 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,120 >> Yeah, I just I 865 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,440 >> Okay. Yes. My five My other four words 866 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,960 cuz I took out one word. 867 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,280 >> What was the Sorry, what was the first 868 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,520 one? 869 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120 >> It was local paramedic funding is and 870 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,560 that's the last paragraph. Is set. 871 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000 I take out now. It's not of any use. 872 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,440 >> Last paragraph? 873 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,200 >> No, the third paragraph. 874 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,920 >> Yeah. 875 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200 >> I'm I'm sorry. I'm not clear on where it 876 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,800 is. Can you tell me? 877 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,400 >> Third paragraph down. 878 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,440 >> Okay. 879 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800 >> Local paramedic funding is set. 880 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,160 >> So, you're saying get rid of the word 881 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,640 now? 882 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,600 >> Why don't we just say will expire 883 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,960 instead of is set to? 884 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,640 >> Okay. 885 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,520 >> How about will? 886 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,400 >> Will. 887 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,760 >> Now I'm getting more words. 888 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,593 >> Yeah. 889 00:33:46,593 --> 00:33:46,680 >> [laughter] 890 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,120 >> Will 891 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,400 expire. So, that gets rid of now, set 892 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,440 to. So, we've got a We We got rid of two 893 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,000 words there. Good job. 894 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,720 >> Okay. 895 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,280 And then a list Mayor Pro Tem 896 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Robbins, I think had the next 897 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,720 suggestions and yours were 898 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,960 >> I think it takes care of eight. I We get 899 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,480 rid of on and then the underline, which 900 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,560 I think is counting as a word all four 901 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,320 times. 902 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,560 >> Yeah. 903 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,360 >> Okay. So, the first one is in the second 904 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,240 paragraph. 905 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:14,840 >> Yes. 906 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,520 >> Where it says voting yes on dash, you're just say voting yes 907 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,040 >> Exactly. 908 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,000 >> will ensure. 909 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,399 >> Yes. 910 00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:25,120 >> Right? So, that gets rid of two. So, now 911 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,720 we're at negative four. 912 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,120 And then we go down to right before for 913 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,679 first set of bullet points. 914 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:32,120 >> Yes. 915 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,520 >> Voting yes on blank will you just want 916 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,120 to say voting yes will. 917 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,993 >> Correct. 918 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:39,280 >> [snorts] 919 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,480 >> So 920 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,399 that gets rid of two. So now we're at 921 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,639 -6. 922 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,320 And do you want to do the same in the 923 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,000 next 924 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,879 >> Well, let's just get rid of them all. I 925 00:34:47,879 --> 00:34:48,040 mean 926 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000 >> Okay, voting yes on 927 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,280 blank voting yes continues strict fiscal 928 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,000 accountability. So now we're that's -2. 929 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,350 So now we're at -8. 930 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,400 » Keep going. There's two more yet. 931 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,360 >> On dash. Yeah. 932 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400 >> Maybe we keep the last one if they get 933 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,520 that far so that the measure so the 934 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,840 measure letter sticks in case there are 935 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,640 lots of measures on the ballot. 936 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,080 >> Okay. 937 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,320 >> I don't know. I mean we don't need we've 938 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,750 got extra words. 939 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Then we get rid of eight and then keep 940 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,560 it keep it the letter at the very end. 941 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,360 >> If I if I may mayor, we are now at -11 942 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,840 which brings us to six below the 300. 943 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,640 >> Okay, so 944 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040 >> That's getting rid of this one. 945 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,480 >> Yes, I'll I'll further discuss. 946 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,840 >> I I just have three 947 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,720 words that I want to add. 948 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:40,760 And it's in the second to the last line 949 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,200 of the first paragraph. 950 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200 So I would add I'll just read the 951 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,000 sentence. As our community has grown in 952 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080 emergency medical services evolve 953 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,600 dedicated local paramedic funding 954 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,880 now helps support. So I would add helps 955 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,200 and make support singular. 956 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Two ambulances as well as 957 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,720 state-of-the-art fire department units 958 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,680 with trained paramedics and equipment. I 959 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960 would add and equipment. 960 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,000 A board fire engines so that and then 961 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720 nothing else changes. 962 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,680 >> Or are you sure that 963 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,400 I mean it covers equipment. I guess it 964 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,840 does. 965 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640 >> I talked to Chief Mahoney this morning. 966 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,080 >> Okay. 967 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,040 >> Yes. 968 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,840 >> I mean I think that's fine. 969 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320 You know, my real the edit I made was 970 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,520 what what we all agreed to on the ballot 971 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,480 wording, which was I took out the line 972 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,360 about response time so that we didn't go 973 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,160 into down the rabbit hole talking about 974 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000 response times and paramedic ambulances 975 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960 and fire engines. And there was a line 976 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,240 here that had the same, you know, 977 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,400 same comment about response times. And 978 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680 that was really basically the only edit. 979 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,080 I mean, there were one or two words, but 980 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,160 otherwise 981 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,600 this was that was the same. And and Dan 982 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,080 had looked Dan Monihan looked at this 983 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,240 also and said it looked fine. 984 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,680 >> Well, I got a better understanding of 985 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,680 the financing for the paramedics. And part of it is 986 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560 based 987 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,040 on the parcel tax, but part of it's 988 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,160 based on the billing. 989 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,560 >> Well, it's about 50/50. 990 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,520 >> It helps 991 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,920 >> So 992 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,720 >> helps support, I think, is more 993 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,280 accurate. And then 994 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,840 >> Oh, I see because the other 995 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:20,600 >> The parcel tax also pays for significant equipment that are put on 996 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,040 fire engines with paramedics. 997 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,280 >> Okay. I think helps is better. I mean, 998 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,160 because it doesn't support it fully. 999 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,480 >> Okay. Um 1000 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,840 we [clears throat] have a brief Is there 1001 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,800 Are there any other changes? 1002 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080 Can we have a brief discussion about who 1003 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,920 should sign this argument? I would 1004 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,160 suggest that each one of us agrees to 1005 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560 sign this argument. 1006 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,520 >> That was my suggestion. I I I don't see 1007 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,240 why we wouldn't. 1008 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:47,400 >> I think it's a good idea. 1009 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,640 >> I mean, the only reason we wouldn't is 1010 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,800 sometimes we go out to community members 1011 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,440 and try to have like the school board 1012 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,440 president and our POA and uh you know, 1013 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,760 age friendly. But I I don't know that it 1014 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,800 really matters who signs it. I I think 1015 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,320 it probably looks better if all five of 1016 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,480 us sign it because then we're all united 1017 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640 in moving the paramedic parcel tax 1018 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,880 forward and that if there 1019 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,280 you know, as we've had differences of 1020 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,960 opinions about other things, I think 1021 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,920 it's great that that all it's clear that 1022 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,760 the whole council wants you to vote for 1023 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,600 this. There's not any split here. 1024 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,800 >> What What's the deadline in getting this 1025 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,640 to the county? 1026 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,240 >> I think it's the 14th, which is why we 1027 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,120 did it today, so that August 14th, 1028 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,560 because our meeting on August 13th, I 1029 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,240 thought was going to be too close. 1030 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,120 >> Zack. 1031 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,520 >> So, the deadline to get it into the town 1032 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,600 clerk is August 14th. The deadline to 1033 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,800 get it into the county is August 17th. 1034 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,760 >> August 17th? 1035 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,640 >> Yes, Mayor. 1036 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,800 >> Okay, Matt, what are could you be 1037 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,280 available to swing by and sign this 1038 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,560 argument 1039 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,390 um before that date? 1040 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,470 » Sorry, what was the date? 1041 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,280 » August 17th. 1042 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,680 >> Yes. 1043 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,800 >> Uh 1044 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,840 August 14th, he needs to be at the town 1045 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,480 clerk's office and signing it, cuz 1046 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,800 that's what the resolution placing it on 1047 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,400 the um ballot. So, you'll be back in 1048 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,520 town. 1049 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,400 Council member Salter will 1050 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,320 >> Yeah, I'll be back. Sorry, I I I didn't 1051 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,000 hear the date. 1052 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,480 >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. 1053 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,480 >> Hold on. I won't be back necessarily. 1054 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520 >> You can sign it right now. Yes. 1055 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,320 >> I'll be happy to sign it now. In fact, 1056 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,520 I'll sign anything other than a check. 1057 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,960 >> You're not allowed to leave this room 1058 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,320 until you sign. 1059 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,600 >> printed final. 1060 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120 >> Okay, let's make a let's have a motion. 1061 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,480 >> I move we approve this the wording as 1062 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,720 edited, 1063 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,630 and that all five of us sign it. 1064 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,240 » Is there a second? 1065 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,080 Can someone second the motion? 1066 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,760 >> I will second it. 1067 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,480 >> Awesome. 1068 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,120 >> Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Robbins, second 1069 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,800 by Council member Dowling. Mayor 1070 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,360 McMillan? 1071 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,240 >> Yes. 1072 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,640 >> Mayor Pro Tem Robbins? 1073 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,240 >> Yes. 1074 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:48,240 >> Council member Kircher? 1075 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,000 >> Yes. 1076 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,880 >> Council member Dowling? 1077 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,560 >> Yes. 1078 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,840 >> Council member Salter? 1079 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,680 >> Yes. 1080 00:39:52,680 --> 00:40:07,870 >> Motion passes unanimously, 5-0. 1081 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,360 » Thank you. We're adjourned. Thank you 1082 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,000 for being here. 1083 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:21,750 >> committees to go on. 1084 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,080 » Oh, so this should be wrapped up by 1085 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,470 tomorrow. 1086 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,112 What? Oh. 1087 00:40:28,112 --> 00:40:29,520 >> [laughter] 1088 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,160 >> Long time coming. 1089 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,030 Oh, that's good enough? 1090 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,950 Okay. 1091 00:40:39,960 --> 00:44:43,310 What if 1092 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,360 » Mhm.