[0:14] Ready. [0:18] Do you have this on your system? [0:51] Once [0:52] >> What's that? [0:52] » What's that? [0:52] >> My board is the old one. [0:54] » My board is the old one. [0:54] >> Welcome everybody to the Rye Town Park [0:56] » Welcome everybody to the Rye Town Park [0:56] Commission meeting of July 21, 2026. [0:59] Please rise and join me for the Pledge [1:02] of Allegiance. [1:04] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [1:06] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [1:06] United States of America and to the [1:09] republic for which it stands, one nation [1:12] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [1:15] justice for all. [1:19] » Um [1:20] Debbie, please call the roll. [1:23] >> Commissioner Louie Marino [1:24] » Commissioner Louie Marino [1:24] >> Here. [1:25] » Here. [1:25] >> Commissioner Josh Nathan [1:27] » Commissioner Josh Nathan [1:27] >> Here. [1:27] » Here. [1:27] >> Commissioner Keith Cunningham [1:28] » Commissioner Keith Cunningham [1:29] >> Here. [1:30] » Here. [1:30] >> Commissioner Jason Klein [1:31] » Commissioner Jason Klein [1:31] >> Here. [1:32] » Here. [1:32] >> President Gary Zuckerman [1:34] » President Gary Zuckerman [1:34] >> Here. [1:34] » Here. [1:34] >> And I note that uh Commissioner Lindsay [1:37] » And I note that uh Commissioner Lindsay [1:37] Jackson is absent. [1:39] >> Um [1:40] » Um [1:40] first item is adoption of the minutes of [1:44] uh [1:45] June 16th. [1:47] If there are no uh objections or [1:48] corrections, may I have a motion and a [1:50] second? [1:51] >> Moved. [1:53] » Moved. [1:53] >> Second. [1:54] » Second. [1:54] >> All in favor? [1:55] » All in favor? [1:55] >> Aye. [1:55] » Aye. [1:55] >> Aye. [1:56] » Aye. [1:56] >> Um public comment on non-agenda items. [1:59] » Um public comment on non-agenda items. [1:59] Do we have anybody from the public who [2:00] wishes to speak? [2:02] All of you here from the public, please [2:04] come forward who wish to speak. [2:06] Uh, I see no one. [2:09] Debbie, anybody on Facebook? [2:11] >> Nobody on Facebook. [2:12] » Nobody on Facebook. [2:12] >> Okay. [2:13] » Okay. [2:13] Uh, [2:14] first [2:15] our only resolution and first item of [2:17] business is [2:19] uh, [2:20] Simon Security resolution authorizing [2:23] the acquisition of [2:25] a uh, security camera system and [2:28] upgrading our public address system. [2:32] Um, [2:35] we discussed this at a previous meeting. [2:37] It's in our capital budget. [2:40] Debbie, do you want to go over it [2:42] briefly? [2:43] Um, [2:45] you all received the memo. I don't know [2:46] if you had a chance to read it, but we [2:48] all you all received a memo on this. [2:50] Um, [2:51] we received [2:53] three proposals [2:56] and chose Simon, which is our existing [2:59] provider. Debbie, go over this briefly. [3:03] >> Yes, the um, at the May I believe it was [3:05] » Yes, the um, at the May I believe it was [3:05] the May meeting we discussed uh, the [3:08] beach [3:09] uh, the open beach gate policy and the [3:12] topic of security and video security on [3:15] the beach came up and uh, staff was [3:18] requested to research [3:20] um, how how we might increase the park [3:24] security to include the beach. Um, we [3:28] have now received proposals from three [3:31] qualified [3:32] su- uh, video security suppliers. Um, we [3:36] actually received uh, more than three [3:39] only from three suppliers because we [3:41] first were only looking at the beach and [3:44] a couple of things transpired. First of [3:46] all, [3:47] um, we had a an extraordinary situation [3:50] on July 4th weekend when a very rapid [3:54] evacuation of the beach had to be um [3:56] completed by our our park staff and the [4:01] shortcomings of our public address [4:03] system became quite apparent. And in a [4:05] debrief [4:07] um the one of the major takeaways is we [4:10] need a better sound system so we can [4:12] reach up everybody can hear us. [4:14] Um and it um what we we learned is that [4:18] um the touring video equipment that we [4:21] were looking at for for video can also [4:25] be easily adapted to audio. [4:28] So what you're what you see on your [4:30] screen is um a the the little red [4:34] triangles indicate audio [4:37] as well. So that when we're installing [4:40] the video cameras we can install audio [4:42] as well. [4:43] And in addition to that um [4:46] President Zuckerman asked the question, [4:48] well what would it take to make sure [4:49] that we have eyes on the promenade which [4:52] of course has been the topic of all [4:54] kinds of conversation [4:56] we um when we were talking about [4:58] unauthorized [5:00] um motor [5:01] you know, mopeds [5:03] um in the park those moped riders were [5:06] up and down the promenade um we didn't [5:08] capture those on video. So um that's [5:11] something that we added and to find out [5:14] what would it take [5:15] to include the um [5:18] the promenade. So that has resulted in [5:22] the proposal before you [5:24] um for uh a capital investment of [5:28] $17,467 [5:31] and change [5:32] um which would come with an annual [5:34] operating cost of $17 $147. [5:40] » And the um [5:43] in addition to the promenade you can see [5:45] from the map that it also includes uh [5:48] part of the uh the park itself, a small [5:51] part of the park that adjoins the [5:52] promenade. So, um [5:56] you know, we have a lot of video [5:58] coverage for that. Um in case anyone [6:01] asks, the parking lot is already [6:03] covered. Uh [6:04] but this this we felt was lacking, and I [6:06] felt it was very important that the [6:08] promenade be covered. [6:10] And it is covered under this proposal [6:12] from Dearborn Ave. all the way to the [6:14] north north gate. [6:16] Um our security captain and and sergeant [6:19] are here. Do you want to [6:21] comment on the security? Feel feel free. [6:25] Should introduce both of yourselves to [6:27] the to the audience. [6:31] >> My name is Pete Chilleo. I'm the park [6:33] » My name is Pete Chilleo. I'm the park [6:33] ranger captain down at Rye Town Beach. [6:36] Uh my major concern was during 4th of [6:38] July, we were unable to communicate with [6:40] the public. [6:42] Our public address systems just [6:44] broadcast on the beach. We had multiple [6:46] people in the park, and we couldn't [6:49] communicate with them. This new system [6:51] will enhance our ability to do real-time [6:54] communication with the public. [6:56] Plus, give us enhanced security by [6:59] having us remotely view [7:01] things that go on. It'll be a crime [7:03] deterrent, [7:05] and it'll record events that happen and [7:08] limit the liability of the park and the [7:11] beach to [7:12] lawsuits and similar things like that by [7:15] having a public record of things going [7:17] on. [7:17] And the new camera coverage coverage is [7:19] most of the [7:20] places that the public [7:23] goes, the walkway, and the new walkway, [7:25] which will probably be [7:27] more conducive to have people come to [7:29] the beach and walk. [7:31] >> Um [7:32] » Um [7:32] also, this is going to be tied in by [7:35] I already heard conversation. The Rye [7:36] Police Department will have [7:37] >> They're already tied in. [7:39] » They're already tied in. [7:39] >> total access to the system. [7:40] » total access to the system. [7:40] >> Sorry. So, there [7:41] » Sorry. So, there [7:41] Our concern is if people are on the [7:44] beach after dark at night through the [7:46] winter, [7:48] the Rye Police will be able to [7:51] see that as well. If there's [7:54] something of concern that needs to be [7:56] responded to. [7:58] >> Right. [7:58] » Right. [7:58] So, [7:59] just to clarify this a little bit. So, [8:02] we have fixed cameras. [8:05] Yellow and blue is one [8:08] What's the difference between the two? [8:11] >> Uh [8:12] » Uh [8:12] the blue have a wider range of [8:16] sight. It's 180° versus the blue. [8:20] >> And see the circles are basically the [8:22] » And see the circles are basically the [8:22] one one one will be facing the beach, [8:25] the other away from the beach. [8:27] >> Yeah, but I see your point. I see the [8:28] » Yeah, but I see your point. I see the [8:28] the blue seem to be 180 as well. [8:31] >> And then we have the yellow which is [8:35] » And then we have the yellow which is [8:35] I don't know. I guess that's yellow over [8:38] there. [8:39] I don't know what this is. Yellow is [8:40] here. [8:41] This yellow seems like it's like less [8:44] than a quarter. [8:57] And also as far as the public address [9:00] system, [9:01] I know we're just showing [9:03] a quarter quarter pie. [9:08] Is it important also to be broadcasting [9:10] out into the park? [9:12] >> Some of it won't be. Right now there's [9:14] » Some of it won't be. Right now there's [9:14] nothing. [9:15] >> Yeah, I get that, but if we're if we're [9:17] » Yeah, I get that, but if we're if we're [9:17] just putting one speaker in [9:19] here, it's ideally only broadcasting out [9:22] here. [9:23] Seeing we're putting [9:25] something on a post [9:27] would [9:29] Seeing we're going through this, would [9:31] it be beneficial just to [9:32] >> There are three divisions in the park. [9:34] » There are three divisions in the park. [9:34] It should be able to to with the park. [9:37] Circles that go out to [9:39] >> this part [9:40] » this part [9:40] speakers [9:45] » Yeah, even the public address system, [9:47] we are covering the beach as well to [9:48] know where the people are. That's the [9:50] other side of it. [9:51] See we're just doing this. In other [9:53] words, what it would cost to just put [9:54] another speaker out there. See we [9:56] already got the wiring for this speaker, [9:57] we'll just stick another speaker. Is it [9:59] a thousand bucks? [10:00] >> Easy to ask the question. [10:03] » Easy to ask the question. [10:03] Yeah. [10:04] >> See we're doing this. [10:05] » See we're doing this. [10:05] >> Right. [10:07] » Right. [10:07] >> We'll make sure keep that I think that [10:09] » We'll make sure keep that I think that [10:09] it will go that way. [10:13] No, we'll make sure. We'll make sure it [10:14] does. [10:15] >> No, that's a good question. [10:16] » No, that's a good question. [10:16] >> Like the experts are the people that put [10:17] » Like the experts are the people that put [10:17] the poles in the park for us and and [10:19] they would have a good idea like from [10:21] this point going back to here, they may [10:24] only hear 10% of what you can hear in [10:26] front of the speaker itself. [10:29] >> Yeah. [10:30] » Yeah. [10:30] >> So one more time, I just want to make [10:31] » So one more time, I just want to make [10:31] sure I clearly understand the ask. [10:33] >> So so this it looks like there's one [10:35] » So so this it looks like there's one [10:35] speaker here which is projecting out in [10:37] this direction and it's seems though [10:40] and and yes this if we wanted to do it [10:42] in shades of gray [10:44] then we would have probably a black here [10:47] and then by the time we get here maybe [10:48] it's just white. I'm not I'm not sure [10:51] how accurate that is. [10:53] >> No, I understand. Yeah. [10:54] » No, I understand. Yeah. [10:54] >> You know the thing is I think I think [10:55] » You know the thing is I think I think [10:55] it's just see we're doing this. [10:57] >> Yeah. [10:58] » Yeah. [10:58] >> I thought you were talking about [11:00] » I thought you were talking about [11:00] additional [11:03] PA public address [11:07] abilities to go out into the park. [11:10] >> Well no. [11:10] » Well no. [11:10] He is No, I think that also. [11:12] He's already doing it out to the beach. [11:14] I'm just saying [11:15] >> Right. [11:15] » Right. [11:15] >> if we're taking this step of we're we're [11:18] » if we're taking this step of we're we're [11:18] upgrading our system which is awesome [11:20] that you guys have put the work into [11:21] upgrading our system. If it's only I [11:24] don't know what it costs for a speaker. [11:25] If it's a thousand dollars a speaker, [11:26] can we put another six speakers in? [11:29] >> Mhm. [11:30] » Mhm. [11:30] >> Do you think it's beneficial? [11:32] » Do you think it's beneficial? [11:32] >> I don't even think you would need six [11:33] » I don't even think you would need six [11:33] speakers to if you just face them that [11:36] way. [11:36] >> Yeah, or whatever. We're going to put [11:38] » Yeah, or whatever. We're going to put [11:38] but we're going to talk to them. [11:39] >> Yeah, cuz it says here the six [11:42] » Yeah, cuz it says here the six [11:42] horn speakers [11:46] uh [11:48] installed throughout the beachfront area [11:50] with each speaker oriented toward the [11:52] beach [11:54] to provide clear public announcements [11:56] and emergency messaging coverage. [12:00] So, I think [12:02] to Keith's point, which [12:04] >> It probably would not take that much [12:06] » It probably would not take that much [12:07] additional to add it if they're putting [12:09] in the labor, it'd be the same labor. [12:11] And instead of mounting one speaker, [12:13] they mount [12:14] >> Two. Right. So, one there and [12:15] » Two. Right. So, one there and [12:15] >> it in in the park direction. [12:17] » it in in the park direction. [12:17] >> At least in a few places because the [12:19] » At least in a few places because the [12:19] concern seems to be that it's not just [12:22] the beach, it's the park area, as well. [12:24] >> And I think so. In in the park, it also [12:26] » And I think so. In in the park, it also [12:26] here you have a lot of people maybe [12:29] inside bathrooms and different things [12:31] like that. The showers or in the offices [12:34] or [12:35] and in this speaker may not be covering [12:37] into this area where [12:39] >> Yeah. [12:40] » Yeah. [12:40] >> you may have more of a concentration. [12:41] » you may have more of a concentration. [12:41] >> As as I understand the video cameras we [12:43] » As as I understand the video cameras we [12:43] have do have some speaker capabilities, [12:46] but let's let's fill that out. I agree. [12:48] >> to we're we're doing this. So, [12:51] » to we're we're doing this. So, [12:51] so I I I kind of think that we should [12:54] make sure we do everything right and I [12:55] just I [12:56] I'm just still a little bit confused on [12:58] the the yellow fixed camera versus the [13:00] blue fixed camera. [13:02] >> Yeah. [13:03] » Yeah. [13:03] >> It looks like we have more yellow fixed [13:05] » It looks like we have more yellow fixed [13:05] cameras, [13:06] but it seems like there's less yellow [13:08] area on the map. [13:09] >> Keith, I hate to interrupt you. [13:11] » Keith, I hate to interrupt you. [13:11] >> Sorry. [13:11] » Sorry. [13:12] >> By another way. [13:13] » By another way. [13:13] >> The the air flying has to be the same. [13:15] » The the air flying has to be the same. [13:15] So, let's do a vote and then we can talk [13:17] more. [13:17] >> Okay. [13:18] » Okay. [13:18] >> Okay? [13:18] » Okay? [13:18] >> Does that sound okay? Sorry. [13:19] » Does that sound okay? Sorry. [13:19] >> So, we can just say subject to [13:22] » So, we can just say subject to [13:22] additional [13:24] s- you know, speakers as recommended by [13:27] the consultants. I think that's kind of [13:29] where [13:30] Commissioner Cunningham is headed. [13:32] >> Yeah. [13:33] » Yeah. [13:33] >> Looks good. [13:34] » Looks good. [13:34] >> That sounds appropriate. I mean, given [13:36] » That sounds appropriate. I mean, given [13:36] what we heard so far and what you're [13:38] saying, absolutely, that seems [13:39] appropriate. [13:40] >> Yeah. [13:42] » Okay, so we're going to amend the [13:43] resolution to allow for some additional [13:48] speakers as recommended based on our [13:50] conversation. [13:50] >> Yeah. [13:51] » Yeah. [13:51] >> You said [13:51] » You said [13:51] >> If need [13:52] » If need [13:52] >> Doesn't sound like [13:53] » Doesn't sound like [13:53] >> If needed, yes. [13:54] » If needed, yes. [13:55] >> Yeah, I think [13:56] » Yeah, I think [13:56] I think that the further resolve [13:58] actually I think already [14:01] includes that. [14:02] That staff officers, staff are [14:05] authorized to execute any necessary [14:06] purchase order, agreement, or related [14:08] documentation and to take all actions [14:10] necessary or appropriate to carry out [14:13] this resolution provided such [14:14] documentation is substantially [14:16] consistent [14:17] with the attached proposal. [14:19] I think that probably [14:21] >> It covers [14:21] » It covers [14:21] >> It's close enough. [14:22] » It's close enough. [14:22] >> Yeah, it covers it. [14:23] » Yeah, it covers it. [14:23] >> I think we're giving you a few more [14:24] » I think we're giving you a few more [14:24] dollars if you need to buy a few more [14:26] >> I'm not worried about it. [14:27] » I'm not worried about it. [14:27] >> Yeah, I didn't think you were. [14:29] » Yeah, I didn't think you were. [14:29] >> Get on it, Debbie. [14:30] » Get on it, Debbie. [14:30] >> I was worried about it. [14:31] » I was worried about it. [14:31] >> Debbie was worried about it. [14:33] » Debbie was worried about it. [14:33] That's that's her job. [14:35] All right, a motion and a second, [14:36] please. [14:37] >> So moved. [14:38] » So moved. [14:38] >> Second. [14:39] » Second. [14:39] >> Uh please call the roll, Debbie. [14:41] » Uh please call the roll, Debbie. [14:41] >> Commissioner Klein. [14:42] » Commissioner Klein. [14:42] >> Yes. [14:43] » Yes. [14:43] >> Commissioner Cunningham. [14:44] » Commissioner Cunningham. [14:44] >> Yes. [14:45] » Yes. [14:45] >> Commissioner Cohn. [14:46] » Commissioner Cohn. [14:46] >> I'm sorry. Commissioner Nathan. [14:48] » I'm sorry. Commissioner Nathan. [14:48] >> Yes. [14:51] » Commissioner Marino. [14:52] >> Yes. [14:52] » Yes. [14:52] >> From now on it's just Commissioner [14:54] » From now on it's just Commissioner [14:54] French. [14:56] >> President Zuckerman. [14:57] » President Zuckerman. [14:57] >> Yes. [14:59] » Yes. [14:59] >> Thank you, everybody. And we will we [15:01] » Thank you, everybody. And we will we [15:01] will enjoy this. [15:03] >> See you. [15:03] » See you. [15:03] >> Good luck, enjoy Jason. Have fun. [15:05] » Good luck, enjoy Jason. Have fun. [15:05] >> Thanks for voting. [15:06] » Thanks for voting. [15:06] >> Happy birthday. [15:07] » Happy birthday. [15:07] >> Happy birthday. [15:08] » Happy birthday. [15:08] >> Happy birthday. [15:09] » Happy birthday. [15:09] >> Uh it's your son. [15:11] » Uh it's your son. [15:11] Uh would you like me to leave this up or [15:12] have we completed the convers- the [15:14] discussion? [15:14] >> we're pretty complete. [15:17] » we're pretty complete. [15:17] >> Do you have any other questions for our [15:20] » Do you have any other questions for our [15:20] staff? [15:20] >> And I think this this this is a really [15:22] » And I think this this this is a really [15:22] good proposal. [15:26] » I have to I have to say I was uh really [15:29] impressed with the proposals we [15:30] received. The even the proposals we [15:33] received that have not been recommended [15:35] are were really [15:38] superior, I thought. [15:40] And uh where the technology is heading [15:42] just is crazy. [15:45] Um [15:46] >> All right. [15:46] » All right. [15:46] >> This this absolutely makes the best [15:48] » This this absolutely makes the best [15:48] sense. It completely integrates with [15:50] what we have. It's already integrated [15:52] with the police department. It it's it's [15:55] slides right in. [15:57] Um but some of the cloud-based systems [15:59] are really impressive. [16:01] >> All right. Good. Thank you, Deb. Um [16:04] » All right. Good. Thank you, Deb. Um [16:04] you [16:05] >> Thank you, guys. [16:05] » Thank you, guys. [16:05] >> I hope you've all read the management [16:07] » I hope you've all read the management [16:07] report. [16:10] I mean [16:11] useful. You didn't speak. You want to [16:13] say anything? [16:14] >> I would say thank you very much for [16:16] » I would say thank you very much for [16:16] making my job a lot easier to be able to [16:18] follow [16:20] through [16:21] being able to tell people things and [16:23] being able to see what's coming from the [16:25] north and what's coming from the south. [16:27] >> Right. [16:27] » Right. [16:27] >> It's a big help and [16:29] » It's a big help and [16:29] it's probably better that we did it [16:32] sooner than later. [16:34] It probably saved a lot of money doing [16:36] it this way because of the integration [16:38] of the other system. [16:41] » Introduce yourself. We heard him. [16:43] Tell everybody who you are. [16:44] >> I'll introduce myself. [16:48] » What's your name? [16:50] >> My name is Anthony Casarella. [16:52] » My name is Anthony Casarella. [16:52] >> That's right, Casarella. He's right. [16:53] » That's right, Casarella. He's right. [16:53] He's our [16:55] ranger sergeant, [16:57] lieutenant, major domo. [16:59] >> Major sergeant. [17:00] » Major sergeant. [17:00] >> Okay. [17:01] » Okay. [17:01] >> Yes. So uh [17:03] » Yes. So uh [17:03] >> And he does a great job with Pete. [17:05] » And he does a great job with Pete. [17:05] They're a great team. [17:06] >> He's the best. [17:07] » He's the best. [17:07] >> They're both good. [17:09] » They're both good. [17:09] >> He he's the [17:09] » He he's the [17:09] >> It's a good team. [17:10] » It's a good team. [17:10] >> I would add that uh that Tony is [17:12] » I would add that uh that Tony is [17:12] stepping up to assist Vic in a whole [17:15] range of responsibilities at Wright Town [17:18] Park. [17:18] >> Chris? [17:19] » Chris? [17:19] >> Yes. [17:20] » Yes. [17:20] >> That's why I wanted you to introduce [17:21] » That's why I wanted you to introduce [17:21] yourself because you're going to become [17:22] better known. [17:24] >> Yeah. [17:24] » Yeah. [17:24] >> Yes, sir. [17:25] » Yes, sir. [17:25] >> Okay. [17:25] » Okay. [17:25] >> Which I don't mind at all. [17:27] » Which I don't mind at all. [17:27] >> He's he's slipping into some of the uh [17:30] » He's he's slipping into some of the uh [17:30] the scope of work that was left un- [17:33] attended. [17:34] >> Okay. [17:35] » Okay. [17:35] You tell me. [17:37] I'll do it. [17:38] >> Thank you, Tony. [17:38] » Thank you, Tony. [17:38] >> Be good. And it was nice to meet you all [17:40] » Be good. And it was nice to meet you all [17:40] of you, Mayor. I met you last time you [17:42] were at the park. Nice to see you again. [17:44] >> Great job. [17:44] » Great job. [17:44] >> And Mr. V, [17:46] » And Mr. V, [17:46] take care of yourself. All right? Talk [17:48] to you soon. [17:48] >> Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Pete. Much [17:50] » Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Pete. Much [17:50] appreciated. [17:52] Uh [17:54] the um [17:56] You can read the management report. Uh [17:58] the paver project is installed. [18:02] And uh [18:03] everybody's seen the Friends Stucco [18:05] project. The buildings look gorgeous. [18:08] Uh just an update. Uh we're waiting for [18:10] the engine final engineer's report. Uh [18:13] the Friends are going to be doing that [18:14] at [18:15] retaining wall section we call the [18:17] Friends wall. [18:19] Or Diana's wall. [18:21] And uh hopefully that'll be done uh in [18:23] the early fall. [18:25] And uh all the other projects are are on [18:28] schedule. [18:29] Um [18:30] we're putting paperwork in. Hopefully [18:32] the uh the walk along the promenade will [18:36] be installed. We're hoping [18:39] you know, starting October 1st. Um [18:42] so, all everything is moving forward. [18:46] Um [18:47] I Then the next item [18:50] uh we're going to have a presentation. [18:54] Is Chance hiding in the back? [19:03] Chance is our administrative aide. [19:04] You've seen his his name on some of the [19:07] uh the memoranda. [19:09] And um [19:11] he [19:12] I I asked him to prepare this report. It [19:15] actually grows out of the the discussion [19:17] we had on parking tickets. [19:19] So I I I said [19:22] how much money are we taking in from the [19:23] kiosk and everything from [19:25] you know, the B&M bank. So Chance is [19:27] going to give us this report. [19:30] >> Great. [19:30] » Great. [19:31] I do have to apologize. I'm a little [19:32] under the weather despite the weather [19:33] being over the top lately, but [19:36] So here is a park review [19:39] for our attendance review. This is [19:42] taking a look at two time ranges. [19:45] May 1st through June 30th of 2025 and [19:48] 2026. [19:50] The the data that we've collected, I've [19:52] worked with Jose Oliveros to collect [19:55] this data and we're also integrating our [19:58] digital dashboards to get all these [20:00] numbers that you'll see. [20:02] So first we'll take a look at permits. [20:04] In 2025 between May and June, we've [20:08] scanned 3,300 or 3,035 permits. We've [20:12] sold 2,328 [20:15] and we've made just shy under $300,000 [20:18] in sales. And in 2026, that number's [20:22] bumped up 42% to 4,311 scans. We're down [20:26] a little bit in permit sales to 2,005 [20:30] and [20:32] that reflects in the total sales [20:33] 273,924. [20:37] » What is a permit scan? Where where is [20:39] that [20:40] >> the scan? [20:40] » the scan? [20:40] >> It's scanned whenever they come whenever [20:43] » It's scanned whenever they come whenever [20:44] the public comes to the park to scan [20:46] them for beach access. [20:47] >> For for beach access scan. [20:49] » For for beach access scan. [20:49] >> From a holder. [20:49] » From a holder. [20:49] >> Permit to beach access access scan. [20:51] » Permit to beach access access scan. [20:51] >> Yes. [20:51] » Yes. [20:51] >> So these are [20:53] » So these are [20:53] This is [20:54] how often our permit holders [20:57] are coming to the beach. [20:59] So every time a permit holder or a [21:02] family scans their permit in, that's [21:05] recorded. [21:07] >> All right. And a permit could be for one [21:10] » All right. And a permit could be for one [21:10] person or five people depending on the [21:11] size of the family. [21:13] >> That's correct. [21:14] » That's correct. [21:14] >> Got it. Okay. [21:15] » Got it. Okay. [21:15] >> Mhm. [21:16] » Mhm. [21:16] >> And um I spoke with uh Jose Oliveros and [21:20] » And um I spoke with uh Jose Oliveros and [21:20] some members of the staff to sort of [21:22] interpret that number and you can [21:23] interpret it in many ways, but I think [21:25] the most probable way is you're having [21:27] less people buy new permits, but more [21:29] people consistently coming to the park. [21:34] We've also taken a look at uh M2 Pay or [21:36] M2 Pay dashboard, so that would be the [21:38] mobile app. [21:39] >> Did Did you take a look at Excuse me, [21:40] » Did Did you take a look at Excuse me, [21:40] did you take a look at whether [21:42] this [21:43] period last year versus this period this [21:45] year? [21:48] That is a period key. [21:49] >> No, but the weather. [21:51] » No, but the weather. [21:51] >> Right. How many beautiful days this year [21:53] » Right. How many beautiful days this year [21:53] versus last year? [21:54] >> Yeah, so on average uh last year was uh [21:57] » Yeah, so on average uh last year was uh [21:57] this year was more [21:59] uh was drier than last year. [22:01] >> Good. [22:01] » Good. [22:01] >> On average. [22:03] » On average. [22:03] >> Is that maybe for for future we're going [22:05] » Is that maybe for for future we're going [22:05] to put together some reports if [22:08] I don't know. Do Do you Is this is for [22:10] every day of the the period of time? [22:12] >> Mhm. [22:13] » Mhm. [22:13] Yeah, from May 1st to June 30th. [22:16] >> So, maybe you want to [22:18] » So, maybe you want to [22:18] >> Include a weather report? [22:19] » Include a weather report? [22:19] >> Yeah, [22:20] » Yeah, [22:20] you could just say outright scans or [22:24] days that are [22:25] no sun, days that are rain. Just break [22:28] it down so we can get a little better [22:30] feel, not that [22:31] that more work onto you. [22:32] >> No, it's okay. No, that's good. [22:34] » No, it's okay. No, that's good. [22:34] >> But that may be interesting to take a [22:36] » But that may be interesting to take a [22:36] look at. Is there a way that if a family [22:38] of five comes in, [22:41] is there are we checking IDs for the [22:44] other family members or is it a [22:46] possibility that someone could come in [22:48] with a family permit and have [22:51] >> The [22:52] » The [22:52] >> people that are The system we've [22:54] » people that are The system we've [22:54] developed [22:55] He doesn't know. [22:57] But the system we've developed, when a [22:59] family applies for a permit, we get [23:02] their picture. [23:03] >> Okay, so so [23:04] » Okay, so so [23:04] >> So, the and when they show up at the [23:07] » So, the and when they show up at the [23:07] gate to say, "Hi, here's my pass." [23:10] the park attendant scans [23:12] the the code, picture comes up on their [23:15] screen. [23:16] >> Okay. [23:16] » Okay. [23:16] >> So, they can look at the person [23:18] » So, they can look at the person [23:18] presenting the permit [23:20] and the people with them, presumably, [23:23] match it up with [23:24] >> that you can just go in scan the permit [23:27] » that you can just go in scan the permit [23:27] five times if it's a family of five? And [23:30] then we'd know exactly how many people [23:32] are coming in versus [23:34] >> What you're saying is can we change the [23:35] » What you're saying is can we change the [23:35] process so that if a family of five [23:37] comes in, they scan it five times? [23:39] >> Yeah, so we don't have to [23:40] » Yeah, so we don't have to [23:40] >> records as five five people enter. [23:42] » records as five five people enter. [23:42] >> Yeah, so instead of [23:44] » Yeah, so instead of [23:44] instead of having us I give every single [23:46] person every single permit have five [23:48] people associated with it and then any [23:51] given day [23:53] that's a lot more than any permit [23:55] permit has one person. [23:58] >> Say it again. [23:59] » Say it again. [23:59] >> So, if if each person that's walking in [24:01] » So, if if each person that's walking in [24:01] the door on a day for an extreme [24:03] situation, we have 100 people walking in [24:05] with a permit and they have four people [24:08] with them for total of five. [24:10] So, there's actually 500 people coming [24:11] in with them. [24:12] However, if the permit is only scanning [24:15] for one person [24:16] >> Oh, so you're saying are they gaming the [24:17] » Oh, so you're saying are they gaming the [24:17] system? [24:18] >> We're only not gaming the system. [24:19] » We're only not gaming the system. [24:19] They're just coming in [24:21] just so we have an understanding of how [24:23] many people are coming in because if [24:24] somebody has a permit and they're [24:25] bringing four other people in with them [24:27] on that permit, we're only scanning the [24:28] permit one time [24:30] and we're only thinking there's only one [24:31] person coming in with that permit. [24:34] Right? But the thing is there may be [24:36] five people coming in. What you're [24:37] asking is how much how how many people [24:39] >> are going on the beach? [24:41] » are going on the beach? [24:41] Yeah, just how many people are using the [24:42] beach? [24:43] >> Yeah. [24:44] » Yeah. [24:44] >> Simple as that. [24:45] » Simple as that. [24:45] >> Yeah, cuz if if 2,000 permit scans could [24:48] » Yeah, cuz if if 2,000 permit scans could [24:48] represent [24:50] >> 5,000 people. [24:51] » 5,000 people. [24:51] >> people or 10,000 people. [24:52] » people or 10,000 people. [24:52] >> Right. [24:53] » Right. [24:53] >> Right, or 2,000 people. [24:55] » Right, or 2,000 people. [24:55] >> Right, that'd be good to know. Maybe cuz [24:57] » Right, that'd be good to know. Maybe cuz [24:57] These are otherwise the information is [24:58] reasonably worthless for us. [25:00] >> Interesting. [25:02] » Interesting. [25:02] I'll have to think about it. Um we [25:03] actually have a little bit more [25:04] information in this presentation [25:06] >> fine. I just I I just [25:08] » fine. I just I I just [25:08] as we move along. [25:11] >> I can also use uh utilize the [25:13] » I can also use uh utilize the [25:13] uh permit dashboard to [25:16] Uh there are there are filters you can [25:18] utilize in the dashboard that can filter [25:20] out uh families and [25:23] presumably individuals. So, I can try to [25:26] get back to you on that as well in a [25:27] separate report. [25:29] So. [25:29] In a follow-up. [25:31] Um so, mobile app daily parking and [25:33] beach fees that uses our uh M2 pay [25:35] platform. Uh from 2025, we have 1,763 [25:40] total transactions and our sales [25:43] $18,087. [25:46] That's up 46% this year to 2,573 [25:49] total transactions [25:51] with uh 26,716 [25:54] sales. So, up 48% in that regard. [26:00] Our kiosks um [26:02] last year, our total payments was just [26:05] under 8,000 at 7,803. [26:08] Our total sales just under 100,000 at [26:11] 97,124. [26:13] That's up this year 15% to 8,964 [26:18] with the total uh sale 101,607 [26:22] 676. [26:25] Up 5%. [26:27] >> So, to get the total parking, we'd take [26:30] » So, to get the total parking, we'd take [26:30] the kiosk and the mobile apps and [26:32] combine them [26:33] >> Correct. [26:33] » Correct. [26:33] >> to find out how many cars [26:36] » to find out how many cars [26:36] are non-permit cars. Non-permit cars. [26:39] Okay. [26:40] >> Correct. [26:42] » Correct. [26:42] And uh daily beach admissions from [26:44] Shopify or Shopify uh platform, our [26:47] total sales is 119,242 [26:50] and this year it's up 28% to 152,000 [26:54] and $37. [26:57] » Are there additional fees that are being [26:59] taken out of our revenue [27:02] working with with Shopify? [27:06] >> Yes, I believe so. I we've been unable I [27:10] » Yes, I believe so. I we've been unable I [27:10] don't believe that they [27:12] allow us to pass on the credit card fees [27:15] to the customers. [27:16] We've removed our our payment of fees [27:19] everywhere we possibly can. [27:21] But Shopify we haven't been able to do [27:23] it. [27:25] We may switch point of sale system next [27:28] year. [27:32] » Okay. [27:33] And this is a number that I thought was [27:35] very interesting. Our parking citations. [27:37] So, in 2025 from May 1st to June 30th, [27:41] the number of citations issued was 48. [27:44] With the total amount paid being 2,570. [27:48] This year in that time frame is 405 [27:51] citations. [27:53] >> What's the percentage of citations that [27:55] » What's the percentage of citations that [27:55] have been paid? [27:57] >> About 50% so far. [27:59] » About 50% so far. [27:59] >> About 50% and and traditionally that is [28:01] » About 50% and and traditionally that is [28:01] also about the same in years past. [28:03] >> Usually our rate is percentage rate [28:08] » Usually our rate is percentage rate [28:08] by the end year it's I understand from [28:11] Passport it's around 80% which is on the [28:13] high end. [28:15] >> Does that make sense, Keith? [28:17] » Does that make sense, Keith? [28:17] This has been in June. So, people who [28:19] got citations [28:21] in let's say on June 15th [28:24] and will pay it, this would be showing [28:27] up as unpaid. [28:27] >> Yeah, no I understand. [28:28] » Yeah, no I understand. [28:29] >> But it's just it may be helpful on on [28:30] » But it's just it may be helpful on on [28:30] this in the future is to have in there [28:33] the percentage of citations that have [28:36] been paid. [28:36] >> Paid this far? [28:37] » Paid this far? [28:37] >> And are all the citations for the same [28:39] » And are all the citations for the same [28:39] amount? [28:41] >> What's the ask [28:42] » What's the ask [28:42] >> Is this each citation is for the same [28:43] » Is this each citation is for the same [28:43] amount? [28:44] >> they they are all the same amount. Um, [28:46] » they they are all the same amount. Um, [28:46] Chance, the table that I mentioned from [28:48] Ala, did did that make it into this any [28:51] slides or it's this? [28:53] >> It would be this. [28:53] » It would be this. [28:53] >> Got it. Okay. [28:57] » All right. [28:58] And I wanted to talk a little bit about [29:00] Placer AI. So, Placer AI is a platform [29:04] that utilizes GPS and AI to document [29:07] attendance data. And we've had a really [29:08] good relationship so far with uh, the [29:11] people over there and they've given us a [29:13] really good report. So. [29:15] Uh, [29:15] again, Placer AI uses uh, GPS data and [29:18] how it works is that uh, the platform [29:20] partners with del- related apps. So, [29:23] whenever you go on your phone and [29:25] you open up an application, uh, like [29:27] Taco Bell or any other app like that, it [29:30] asks for uh, your location services. And [29:33] if you were to activate that, it uses [29:34] that data [29:36] uh, on your cell phone to track [29:37] movement. And what we've done is [29:41] uh, we've gotten a report that sh- uh, [29:44] indic- cates all traffic within Wright [29:46] Town Park. And the AI uh, interface [29:50] actually interprets information and [29:52] generates summary reports based off of [29:54] that trafficking. [29:56] So, we've managed to get this uh, [29:59] summary. So, again, between May 1st and [30:02] June 30th, uh, the park had 122,000 [30:06] visits with 71 [30:08] Oh, 2025, correct. Uh, with 122,000 uh, [30:12] visits and 71,000 individual and unique [30:16] visitors. So, that's the individual [30:18] phones. [30:19] Um, visit frequency, so that's how many [30:21] times they return, [30:23] uh, 1.71 and 26 minutes average dwell [30:27] time. [30:28] This number, um, might seem a little [30:30] confusing, but it also includes [30:32] taxi drivers who come to deliver food at [30:34] the park. It includes a whole host of of [30:37] people. So. [30:39] And that chart to the right [30:40] >> what with with the [30:43] » what with with the [30:43] 122,000 visits, [30:46] the average time that a person has been [30:48] in the park is 26 minutes. [30:50] >> Yes, but that also includes a whole host [30:53] » Yes, but that also includes a whole host [30:53] of people. So, [30:54] >> yeah, I understand that, but [30:57] it's interesting. [31:00] >> And the the chart to the graphic on the [31:02] » And the the chart to the graphic on the [31:02] right actually shows something really [31:04] cool. Um [31:05] it shows the locations presumed [31:08] locations of where people were [31:10] during their duration. So, before coming [31:12] to the park, 51% were home, um [31:15] and then when they went to the park, [31:16] they spent time there, and after that [31:18] they either returned home, spent more [31:20] time doing leisure activities, or dining [31:22] at a restaurant nearby. [31:25] And the 2026 report has 132,000 [31:30] visits, so up 9%. Uh 81,000 in unique [31:34] visitors, so up 15%. And [31:38] uh visit frequency a little bit less [31:40] at 1.63, and the average dwell time 33 [31:44] minutes. [31:44] >> So, in order for [31:46] » So, in order for [31:46] us to identify some of our visitor [31:51] which you [31:52] totaled here, [31:54] they have to be able to they have to be [31:55] turning on [31:57] access to their phone for [32:00] tracking. [32:02] >> So, so long as uh [32:04] » So, so long as uh [32:04] so long as a person were to have their [32:07] location services on on a partnered app, [32:11] then they would be tracked. [32:13] Um so, for example, if uh Placer AI were [32:17] partnered with app X, and uh the [32:21] individual had their location services [32:24] turned on for app X, [32:25] uh whenever they get to the park, that [32:27] would be tracked. If it was app [32:29] >> we have [32:30] » we have [32:30] Do we really have a good feel for what [32:32] percentage of people have actually [32:34] allowed access to their location. [32:39] » We don't, but there are [32:41] >> how many visits do you think that we've [32:43] » how many visits do you think that we've [32:43] had visitors that we've had [32:47] to the park? [32:49] Anyway, no no [32:50] >> This is This is a statistically [32:52] » This is This is a statistically [32:52] This is a statistical model. [32:54] >> Well, I I understand I I Yeah, I I get [32:56] » Well, I I understand I I Yeah, I I get [32:56] all that. But anyway, go ahead. What's [32:58] the difference between visits and [33:00] visitors? What is a visit? [33:02] >> Uh visits are um whenever the person [33:04] » Uh visits are um whenever the person [33:04] comes to the park. Visitors are just the [33:06] unique like the unique entity itself. [33:08] Yeah, it's a unique [33:09] >> So if I come to the park 10 times [33:11] » So if I come to the park 10 times [33:12] >> Explain that again. [33:13] » Explain that again. [33:13] >> The visitors are the unit, so the [33:15] » The visitors are the unit, so the [33:15] individual itself, and the visits are [33:18] the the time that they stay or [33:20] yeah. [33:21] >> So when I come to the park [33:22] » So when I come to the park [33:22] >> I'm a visitor. And if I turn come to the [33:24] » I'm a visitor. And if I turn come to the [33:25] park [33:26] >> The action of being at the park [33:27] » The action of being at the park [33:27] >> then it's then it's 10 visits. [33:30] » then it's then it's 10 visits. [33:30] >> Yep. The action of being at the park is [33:32] » Yep. The action of being at the park is [33:32] the visit. [33:32] >> Okay. [33:34] » Okay. [33:34] I I'm I'm sorry. I'm just [33:37] It's So a visitor [33:40] So I go to the park [33:42] once, I'm a visitor, I'm there for 33 [33:45] minutes and leave. [33:48] How do I become a visit? [33:51] » That's one visit. [33:52] >> So one visit So one visit, however, oh, [33:55] » So one visit So one visit, however, oh, [33:55] but I'm that visitor may So that that [33:58] visitor is it So each visitor that came [34:01] to the park between May 1st and [34:05] June 30th [34:08] only was in the park for [34:11] for two times during that entire time [34:13] frame. [34:14] >> Yeah, so I think a better way of looking [34:16] » Yeah, so I think a better way of looking [34:16] at it is is there 80,000 visitors um [34:20] 80,000 visitors may visit once, but [34:22] 80,000 visitors, you know, some of them [34:23] might visit twice, and that's accounted [34:25] in the total number of visits. [34:26] >> seems like an incredibly high number of [34:29] » seems like an incredibly high number of [34:29] somebody coming only [34:32] twice in the matter of two months. [34:35] Anyway, I I just [34:37] >> Yeah, it's a pretty massive [34:38] » Yeah, it's a pretty massive [34:38] >> It it just seems like this is [34:40] » It it just seems like this is [34:40] >> Do you really think it's going to spell [34:42] » Do you really think it's going to spell [34:42] the park [34:43] apart? [34:43] >> Um [34:44] » Um [34:44] Go ahead. I'm sorry. [34:46] >> It's okay. [34:46] » It's okay. [34:46] >> I think I think the one message you [34:48] » I think I think the one message you [34:48] might want to take from this is the [34:49] dwell time. [34:51] And you may want to think about how to [34:53] make the park stickier [34:55] for people to stay longer. [34:57] >> I I [34:58] » I I [34:58] I don't know who would come here for [35:00] 30 minutes unless they're just out [35:02] walking their dog. [35:05] >> I think you have to you have to balance [35:06] » I think you have to you have to balance [35:06] that. That's an average. But [35:08] >> No, I I understand it's an average, but [35:10] » No, I I understand it's an average, but [35:10] the thing is it just [35:11] >> But if I'm in if I go to the Barley [35:13] » But if I'm in if I go to the Barley [35:13] Beach House for two hours, [35:16] somebody else maybe a taxi driver [35:18] dropping off a fare [35:20] and he's got his phone on and he's [35:22] leaving and he's there for 5 seconds. [35:24] So, that's that's going to be averaged. [35:27] I don't think the average dwell time is [35:29] is a meaningful figure. I think the the [35:32] visitors figures is is meaningful. I [35:35] think that's really the [35:36] the only really meaningful figures [35:38] followed by possibly the visits. [35:41] >> But the thing is we Anyway, I We don't [35:44] » But the thing is we Anyway, I We don't [35:44] We don't have any I It It's Go ahead. [35:46] I'm We're beating a dead horse. [35:49] >> You what we absolutely can do, we'll [35:51] » You what we absolutely can do, we'll [35:51] send out to the commissioners the report [35:53] that we got from Place right now. [35:55] >> but I just I just [35:56] » but I just I just [35:56] >> Which is, you know, much [35:57] » Which is, you know, much [35:57] >> No, I I'd love to see it because it just [35:59] » No, I I'd love to see it because it just [35:59] seems like [36:00] >> Which one? Sure. In fact, I would say [36:01] » Which one? Sure. In fact, I would say [36:01] that [36:02] >> This is it's cool use of technology, but [36:03] » This is it's cool use of technology, but [36:03] I don't think it's very credible. [36:06] Anyway. [36:08] >> Yeah, I I just wanted to add that Place [36:10] » Yeah, I I just wanted to add that Place [36:10] AI [36:11] >> So, you're maybe credible, but it might [36:14] » So, you're maybe credible, but it might [36:14] not be useful. [36:15] >> I don't think it's either. [36:19] But anyway, it's cool because it has Go [36:22] ahead. Go ahead. [36:23] Go ahead. [36:24] >> Uh Place AI has been pitching business [36:27] » Uh Place AI has been pitching business [36:27] to the town of Rye and to the city of [36:30] Rye [36:31] for over a year. [36:32] >> Okay. [36:32] » Okay. [36:32] >> And the [36:35] » And the [36:35] I understand your rec department came [36:36] very close to a contract. [36:38] >> I'm not [36:39] » I'm not [36:39] >> I was kind of hoping that we could [36:41] » I was kind of hoping that we could [36:41] piggyback on one that but that didn't go [36:43] forward. But [36:43] >> So so [36:44] » So so [36:44] >> So your staff is familiar with this [36:45] » So your staff is familiar with this [36:45] product. [36:46] >> So [36:47] » So [36:48] what are we gaining by knowing 8.7% of [36:50] the people that [36:52] uh [36:52] came to the park for their 33 minutes [36:57] were having dinner somewhere or dining [36:58] somewhere? [36:59] >> You know, what I take away is I'm [37:01] » You know, what I take away is I'm [37:01] looking at the growth in visitorship. [37:03] >> All right, so anything else we can talk [37:05] » All right, so anything else we can talk [37:05] about? Yeah, I didn't too. Yeah, no I I [37:08] I don't want to talk about this anymore. [37:09] We're not We're good. [37:11] Okay. Sorry for this. Thank you. [37:12] >> No, I mean I [37:13] » No, I mean I [37:13] >> I just this presentation what if this is [37:15] » I just this presentation what if this is [37:15] going to take us, right? Maybe [37:18] before our meeting someone they can [37:19] email us that way we know what are we [37:21] talking about. [37:23] But it's okay. Just meet them. [37:25] >> I I think I should have stopped a long [37:26] » I I think I should have stopped a long [37:26] time ago. [37:28] >> He didn't finish his presentation. [37:29] » He didn't finish his presentation. [37:30] >> No, I know. Go ahead. I know I was being [37:32] » No, I know. Go ahead. I know I was being [37:32] rude. I'm sorry. [37:33] >> No, it's okay. [37:34] » No, it's okay. [37:34] So here is the total. So Placer AI has [37:38] averaged from 2019 to 2026. They've [37:42] given us a visit trend chart and it [37:44] shows a steady decline since COVID. You [37:47] can see the COVID marker um and March of [37:51] 2020 there was an increase a massive [37:53] increase of visitations largely because [37:55] cuz people were locked indoors and [37:57] being outside was relatively the only [37:58] thing you could do. [38:00] Since 2020 there has been a steady [38:02] decline as you can see with the really [38:03] long arrow. However, it is important to [38:06] note um with this steady decline there [38:10] is a peak currently right now from June [38:13] of 2026. You can see [38:16] that the May number into June all the [38:18] way up to the end of the right is [38:20] surpassing previous years' numbers that [38:22] are in July. So, it does show relative [38:26] hope for visitation, as well. [38:29] >> What I What I take away from that is [38:33] » What I What I take away from that is [38:33] it's a general trend line, but [38:36] we're having a good year in terms of [38:38] visitation this year. And Keith, it may [38:41] be due to the weather. We'll look up the [38:43] weather reports. [38:44] All right. [38:46] >> And I've included a summary of points at [38:48] » And I've included a summary of points at [38:48] the very end. So, again, wants to [38:50] reiterate, the general trend indicates [38:52] long-term decline, [38:54] but 2026 is showing [38:56] some upward trajectory, and peak periods [38:58] are between mid-June and July. So, [39:01] target programming here that goes back [39:03] to making the park stickier for [39:06] attendees. So. [39:08] Yeah, and that would be [39:10] my presentation. [39:11] >> Thank you, Chance. [39:12] » Thank you, Chance. [39:12] >> Thank you. [39:12] » Thank you. [39:13] >> Very Very well done. [39:14] » Very Very well done. [39:14] >> Thank you. [39:15] » Thank you. [39:15] >> Much appreciated. [39:17] » Much appreciated. [39:17] >> Of course. And I'll follow up with [39:19] » Of course. And I'll follow up with [39:19] with the full report that Placer AI sent [39:21] us, as well as [39:23] as well as the weather report. [39:25] Thank you. [39:25] >> All right. [39:26] » All right. [39:26] Anything else? [39:28] No. [39:33] Meeting was short. [39:35] It'll be even shorter once we have a [39:37] motion to adjourn. [39:37] >> much shorter if I wasn't here, Guy. [39:39] » much shorter if I wasn't here, Guy. [39:39] >> Well, that's actually very true, Keith. [39:42] » Well, that's actually very true, Keith. [39:42] >> I I think I think I think you raised the [39:44] » I I think I think I think you raised the [39:44] general question, which is [39:46] it's interesting to get the data, and [39:49] we kind of have to zero in on [39:52] which data is actionable for us, and you [39:57] know, what what [39:58] what do we really [40:00] I I think that [40:02] I'm I'm [40:04] I'll be brief. I'm worried that the [40:05] Placer data is the [40:08] the actual numerical values they're [40:10] giving us are not [40:12] really particularly [40:15] useful, but the general trend of [40:19] if they're telling us a lot of people [40:20] are coming from dinner and then there's [40:22] some number of people coming after [40:23] dinner and that that's interesting to [40:25] know cuz you get a sense of how they're [40:27] using the mark the park and if you're [40:28] seeing trends are going down since COVID [40:31] but they're kind of leveling out, [40:33] that's good to know. [40:36] You know, whether 81,000 people actually [40:38] went to the park, I don't know, but it's [40:40] great to get that sort of general gist. [40:42] I think that [40:43] >> When we make a grant application [40:45] » When we make a grant application [40:45] >> Yes, so we're going to tell them [40:46] » Yes, so we're going to tell them [40:46] >> You you do it. Okay. [40:48] » You you do it. Okay. [40:48] >> Well, I'm not going to I'm not going to [40:50] » Well, I'm not going to I'm not going to [40:50] come in on that. [40:51] >> Anyway [40:52] » Anyway [40:52] >> I won't criticize [40:53] » I won't criticize [40:53] >> have on the agenda? Do you want to make [40:54] » have on the agenda? Do you want to make [40:54] a motion to adjourn? [40:55] >> Make a motion to adjourn. [40:57] » Make a motion to adjourn. [40:57] >> I'll second. [40:58] » I'll second. [40:58] >> All in favor. [40:59] » All in favor. [40:59] I got it. [41:00] >> Aye. [41:01] » Aye. [41:01] >> Our next meetings are August 18th and [41:03] » Our next meetings are August 18th and [41:03] September 15th. [41:04] >> Cool. [41:05] » Cool. [41:05] Thanks. [41:05] >> Thank you everybody.