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» There you go. All right. Good evening everyone. Welcome to our regular council
meeting for Monday, August the 24th. Uh before we get started, if you are able,
I would ask you to stand and join us for our national
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» like to begin by respectfully acknowledging that the town of Shelurn
resides in the traditional territory in the ancestral lands of Isishave,
including the Ajiway, Padawatami, Chipua, and the people three fires
confederacy. These traditional territories upon which we live, work,
play, and learn are steeped in rich indigenous history and traditions. And
it is with this statement that will declare to honor and respect past and
present connection of indigenous peoples with this land, its waterways and
resources. Are there any disclosures of pecuniary
interest council tonight? Okay. On to our minutes from the July 13th
council meeting. Can I have a motion to adopt those minutes as circulated by
councelor Gardy, second by councelor sample. Discussion on those?
All in favor? It's carried. All right. So the first item this evening is our
planning public meeting. And tonight's public meeting is being held under
section 34 of the planning act. and it is to consider an application for zoning
bylaw amendment for the land zone municipally as 712 Main Street East in
the town of Shelurn. Purpose in fact of the amendment is to add a sightsp
specific provision to permit a private school on the subject property whereas
the current zoning bylaw did not permit this use in the three C3 zone. I now ask
the clerk to provide method of notice for tonight's meeting.
» Notice that tonight's public meeting is advertised in local media sources.
notice have been posted on the town's website. Notice provided to property
owners.
» Great. Thank you. So, uh, as we normally do in these cases, we'll have a
presentation uh from town planner following which there will be an
opportunity for members of public as well as members of council to ask
questions to provide comments and the clerk will also submit written
submissions. uh any submissions that uh that are received whether written or
oral here this evening will be given consideration by council prior to any
decision being made. So with that Steve I will turn it over to you. Thank you
mayor mouse and uh all the details of this application are in my report in the
agenda package [clears throat] just to summarize those and go over the comments
received I a few slides which are on the screen. Um we also have representatives
for this application at le joining us either online or in the room. Um Nolan
Bentley DH architects and Sarah Mile for the post private school.
So the applicant was filed on behalf of the current owner of the property by DHR
text. Um as the mayor mentioned it's for 72 street east. Go to the next slide. It
just shows the location. are familiar with this. Um the site to
the east is just under construction for some fast food development and some
retail space. Uh this site sits on the south edge of the industrial commercial
area along road and industrial road to the north and uh the land of the south
is is vacant with some residential homes uh proven to the southwest and the west.
um well established commercial area although some transitions to new
development and certainly some additional development opportunities
future. Um the building itself has had a history of different uses. Um originally
constructed I think for insurance office purposes we mutual insurance there for
many years uh followed by some medical and pharmacy uses. Uh there was a site
plan application uh about three or four years ago uh for some renovations of the
basement for additional medical purposes but that was never finalized. Uh the
medical uses have since relocated and the space become available. Um and those
uses for a private school. So if we go to the next slide
um these are just a couple of street view images showing the existing
building. It does have a shared access driveway with those developing
commercial uses to east um on the north side of the highway. Uh that is in the
MTO control portion of the highway. So um this change in use is being reviewed
by the Ministry of Transportation and they have provided some comments that
I'll summarize later in in the presentation.
Um and the the left hand just shows a part of the front um parking area as
[clears throat] well as the the access ramp for accessibility into the
building. Go to the next slide.
So um I have a bit more details on another slide about the details of the
proposed private school. Um but suffice it to say that the optin is identifying
it would be entirely located within the existing building. Um and there wouldn't
be other uses within the building. This be private school. Um there are three
levels within the building. The basement is mainly unfinished. Um the main floor
um would be a combination of classrooms and office and support rooms and the uh
upper floor would be primarily classrooms as well and some additional
support spaces. Um we've listed here based on the floor plans that we
received through the application the details of all the rooms which are also
detailed report. Um there is some venting posted and I have a copy of the
site plan in in the slideshow as well. Um just to ensure that um you know once
the children are are waiting to come into school or when they're released at
the end of the day that that they aren't u you know they understand the limits of
the property and and aren't able to to wander onto properties. And that was
specifically proposed in response to what comments that we received from a
from a nearby industrial land owner. And next slide.
Um so you can see the property location again here with the zoning map. Um the
existing zoning u for this property and the properties nearby is service
commercial C3 which permits a broad range of uses. Um it doesn't
specifically permit private school though it does permit things like a
commercial school. So there was a bit of interpretation of the bylaw required and
some discussion with the applicant to determine which definition of the bylaw
this falls under a private school. The distinction is is that it's it's mainly
for academic purposes. Um essentially similar to a public uh school um for uh
children um versus a commercial school is more along lines. It could be um a
piano studio or something that is not necessarily all day with many different
classrooms and specific academic teaching curriculum but more oriented to
specialized commercial uh learning opportunities. Um and the zoning viol as
I say only permitted the commercial school and doesn't doesn't permit a
public school or private school currently. So the request is just to add
to the list of permitted uses to prevent private school. Um, I would say too that
that is a distinction provinially and I'll get into this in another slide, but
for example, the regulations that govern retailing, they aren't required to be
buffered a certain distance for things like piano studios and commercially run
um schools of that type, but they are for, you know, K& private public
schools. So, that is one of the one of the considerations for this application.
The next slide. So the specific um proposed school use
is by design learning center or BDLC. They have a site currently east of
Orangeville um and are looking to relocate to the to the building
specifically because it's better suited to their operations. Um you know the the
overall interior space is well suited um as identified by the applicant. Um the
location as well is desirable in terms of meeting local needs within Shelurn
and its immediate surroundings. And um you'll see attached in my report there's
a letter from the applicant that provides some of the indicators of
demand um why there is no similar you know private school within town
currently. So this would be the first of its kind to to serve those types of
needs. Um we asked specifically about
transportation just given the location. There are some difficulties that have
been identified in previous studies with MTO when we looked at that Shelurn East
area traffic flows growing traffic at the intersection of Highway 89 and kind
of the floor. Um that is a full move access that mutual driveway that's
shared among those properties. um but could be challenging to be used on a
daily basis by a school bus which obviously requires a bit more time to
navigate turns and um there were some safety considerations as well if kids
are being picked up or dropped off in the bus uh in front of that property.
However, that's not the case. The applicant confirmed that there would be
no school provided transportation be strictly parents and guardians dropping
off and picking up kids. the MTO would does request more has requested more
information including a bit of a traffic brief to look at that um just to
understand better the volume of cars that would be going in and out. However,
from our assessment um we feel it would be very similar to the past uses just
based on the number of classrooms and number of kids that could accommodate
the number of staff. In fact, it might even be a bit less. Um if you took for
example the parking requirement under the zoning bylaw the number of
classrooms identified and the zoning requirement is 1.5 spaces
classroom only 14 spaces are required and there's actually 38 spaces on site.
So the site itself could accommodate a much more intensive oriented use um in
terms of its space and its number of parking spaces provided.
As mentioned, this would be a K to8 school. There are nine classrooms then
identified in plans provided. Um, and the capacities range from the
kindergarten room, which is the highest, which makes sense if you're going to
start kids into a private school. You start at the very early age, first grade
that they enter, and then to the grade one to grade eight classrooms or smaller
housing smaller. Um if you go to the next slide,
this is the site plan provided as prepared by DNH architects. Um I've just
highlighted in red. Really the only change that's proposed is to put that
fencing in and that was added after the original submission. So the plan that's
attached to my report actually didn't show that. Um but again in response to
some comments from an industrial land owner to the north. This would just make
absolutely sure that there's no way for students to wander off the property onto
the commercial properties on either side or the industrial properties.
Um but with that said, you know, the outdoor is proposed to remain as is.
There's no new outdoor play areas proposed to be added or outdoor learning
areas. Um so really the only time the kids would be outside is during those
drop off and picked up times. Um so parking in Yeah.
Um this drawing also shows where the existing parking is located. There's
more parking spaces actually delineated on the site than what are shown here.
They wrap all the way around the building. Um but this is just
illustrating how it meets the parking requirement and outside of that fenced
area.
Next slide. So just circling back to the Ministry of Transportation review of
this. They did not object to the approval of the zoning application. In
fact, they have their own approval mechanism. So, um even if council were
to approve the zoning tonight, that doesn't alleviate the applicant's
responsibility to meet the MTO requirements and obtain whatever
permissions the NTO may require under the public highway and transportation
improvement act. Um so again, the NTO did request a bit more
information about the traffic circulation. The applicant has uh
identified they would provide that information and was working on that and
just a bit more information requested by MTO as well to show the specific um site
circulation plans. So where would the students be dropped off where would they
pick be picked up and I think the thing that MTO is like most interested in is
how much queuing space is then provided similar to when like the drive-throughs
were provide were being planned on the site to the east. They just need to make
sure that there's not going to be a line of car that backs up interferes with the
traffic on the highway. And from our review, there's plenty of room on the
site and in the driveways to accommodate that.
Um there is a traffic assessment intake form that was specifically required by
NTO as well and that has been completed by the order will be submitted by the
next slide. So again, I mentioned that uh in Atlanta
to the north, specifically Shelber Memorials at 709 Industrial Road had
some questions um about um the compatibility of the use with the
industrial area. And the comments were more about um access and making sure
that people can't um move from the edges of the property onto adjoining property
where there could be safety concerns with respect to trucking, industrial
activity, but also um to do with noise. And um this was studied to some degree
when the the residential subdivision at 600 Main Street was planned and there
were noise studies. And what that found is that the uses that are um in the
surrounding vicinity in the commercial industrial area on industrial actually
don't generate a lot of exterior noise. It's a lighter industrial area and
nothing that requires specific noise mitigation in that case. Um we also u
responded to this um when order just to indicate that um everything would be
inside the building again. So um if there are noise sensitivities it
wouldn't relate to any outdoor use. Uh the next slide.
Um we received this comment today just from the former tenant of the building
who had expressed to staff and I think to counsel previously some of the
concerns about the conditions within the building. Um in this case um that was
identified as part of the pre-conultation where the owner was
present for the meeting and um they were identifying that they would make sure
that everything is compliant with the required codes and safety measures. Um
this would be obviously a requirement through the county building department.
We have made them aware and shared with them the prior concerns as well just to
ensure that there's proper inspection mechanisms to ensure that everything is
safe. But ultimately it is up to the school operator and for the owner to
work together to ensure everything is safe and in good working order for for
the students and um certainly for this type of use that will be um a critical
element of of having kids safely accommodated parents satisfied that
that's the case. Um don't get into the details of the issues that are
identified here. There's a there's quite a list of them, but those have been
related and shared with uh with the applicants and as I mentioned at the
beginning, the applicant is an architect, so they're aware of the
requirements and ensure this complies with all um code requirements.
Next slide. I mentioned this at the beginning, but
um back a few years ago when the legislation was proposed to require
licensing for uh Canada's retailing, um one of the requirements of those
regulations was that new Canada's retail operations could not be located within
150 meters of the school. And again, that covers both uh private and public
schools. Um so we did this map at that time to illustrate the 1150 buffer
around the existing schools. Um what's shown here is that by introducing a
private school as a permitted and um active use on this property would extend
the Centennial Highlands uh buffer a little bit further north um including
covering properties one of which already has a cannabis retail operation. So we
we dug into the mechanics of that. Um the buffer doesn't operate to displace
an existing cannabis retail operation. They can continue there. But we did make
that owner aware that if that cannabis retail operation were a cease operation,
a private school is active when they try to reestablish where operator comes in.
That would be the indication is that it can no longer be back. The town other
than mapping this out doesn't have any regulatory role or um say in any of
this. Those are just provincial requirements and they use them to
establish who can get a license if um just for the purposes of illustration on
this map. We did identify that there's four existing locations with red dots in
town and only the ones within me zone that would result from this change
in value per uses. The next slide.
Okay. So, just to wrap up with a few next steps. Um, tonight we're obviously
here to receive any comments and questions from the council and the
public and do our best to respond to that. Um you'll see the recommendation
in my report is to subject to those comments and questions um in
consideration to enacting the proposed zoning bylaw amendment. Um the bylaw is
included in the agenda package is number 31-2026.
Very straightforward bylaw. Again just adds private school as a permitted use.
Um following that uh once council makes a decision with respect to the
application there's a notice of decision that goes out. um to a list of agencies
and everybody who's provided comments. That notice has to go within 15 days of
the decision. Following that, from the date of notice, there's a 20-day appeal
period. Only specified persons under the planning act can appeal to the Ontario
Land Tribunal. Um I won't go through that. It's a lengthy list, but um that
will be something that be reviewed in the event of an appeal. Um as I
mentioned the applicant's responsible to ensure that NTO requirements are
addressed and then ultimately final accordingly will be available um subject
to there being no appeals which are subject to a paper decision
from council um following the final approval and the M2 approvals at that
time a useful approval building permit can then be issued for the interior
recommendations and if there's some significant building or or elsewhere um
find permit to ensure compliance with the useful sign by all would be required
as well. Um so that's my report and um I'll pause
here for any questions or comments. >> Great. Thanks Steve. U because the
applicants are here I'll I'll give you sort of first opportunity if you want to
offer any comments. No pressure but but if you do those are certainly more of
the problems. >> Sure. I'm Sarah Maya and um I thought
I'd pack pack the house [laughter] >> into the overflow room
» the theater. Um so this is my father Bob and Tatish
is the owner. We're we're like a joint venture with the school. This is my
husband Mark and he's the actual principal of the school um and the
formal educator and these are two of our four children
and this is the professional Nolan with Dickson and Pick. So if you can um add
comment but just a couple things. Thank you Steve for your report. um since our
application because it's a it's really tricky. I I'm confined by a school year
as you can appreciate and um ideally I I would have started this in January and
given myself lots of time. Um but I didn't know about the space. The teach
did not put it on market and it's um through a great series of events that we
were able to connect and it wasn't until June. So, we're working as quickly as we
can. Um, and part of the trouble is ideally we'd want to start a school year
in September at this location. That's not going to happen. Um, but the sooner
we can do it, the better for routines and and for ease of families and staff.
Um, so we were putting in the application as quickly as we can. And I
just wanted to make mention state to your report. One of the things we have
partnered with the stream um who I think you're all familiar with um they have
such a great reputation here in town but they would assist us in the before and
after school program and that's an important piece to our school and it
actually becomes quite helpful in addressing the concerns of the MTO
because not all our students arrive at one time and not all depart at one time
and lots of children need care outside the school hours. Um and because of that
partnership, we had the opportunity to use a 10seater passenger van. So while
you said there's no um transportation provided by the school, um probably
initially we would be um especially assisting families who have come from uh
south part of the county like maybe Orangeville area, we we could bring up
10 students. Again, very helpful in addressing concerns raised by the MTO.
So that was just one little thought. I just thought, "Oh, that's new
information." And I forget just the schedule of all the information going
through. Um I don't know if there's more than one I
» Yeah. No, I don't think there's too much more. I think Steve's report is very
comprehensive. Um you're asking for a private school designation be added to
C3 that already has a commercial school. Um
We're asking foration
questions from council. >> Hi, welcome. Um, thanks Steve for his
presentation. You had mentioned preschool and after school programs and
partnering streams. Um, are you considering also at some point
in time daycare in the future? This is not going to have a daycare. whether
strictly we >> it would be JK because they're right
» but yeah are a whole new >> they're a whole different
» different animal no I understand that's why I asked um
» and I mean you know like um I mean streams has an excellent reputation as
well for their programs are you partnering with streams in terms of
content or is it is it going to be two separate entities technically within
the building Great question. So, yeah, the fun for Mark and I this summer has
been to just see the alignment with Andrew and Julie, right in programming,
but actually our values align. So, they have five values. We have three and
three of them are the same. >> So, that's exciting. And um our learning
model for by design learning center if you were curious and I think it might be
in the report we [clears throat] have a a partnership also with M's academy
which is based out of Alberta and they coined the phrase profound learning. So
our desire is that kids are engaged in learning. A lot of kids go to school and
by grade one or two like I have to go to school. But when they were three or
four, they were really excited about letters and numbers and that kind of
breaks my heart as a mom. So, so profound learning is bit more hands-on
and smaller class sizes are a part of it, but that actually is a perfect fit
with the streams which is, you know, like activities and opportunities and
hands-on and the arts and um yeah, being busy.
» Retired teacher. >> Oh, good. Good. You know,
» I get it. That's why. Okay. Um, okay. Thanks. I just curious what if there
were two separate handh or if it was going to be like a cooperation between
the two. Yeah, we will on our program and which you know kind of starts at 9
and goes to 3:15 but we will overlap like Andrew and Julian we've already
talked about shared programming on Friday afternoons on field trips um some
of their staff helping us at times and we have very artistic staff as well so
they'll visit the streets. Yeah. >> Thanks.
» Yeah.
» Um yes. So for me, um I think it's a great idea. Um I I am glad um that you
mentioned because I was obviously going to bring up the new [clears throat]
concerns brought forward with regards to the condition of the building. Um so I
am happy that you're going to be engaging county in order to have um you
know inspections and whatnot and make sure that we pass. We don't want mold.
We don't you know we want a functioning proper elevator things of that nature.
Um so that's great that that because that was going to be one of my questions
like what are you doing to to do that? So, I'm glad that that's um being held.
Um so, no playground outside or a gym. What What would you I mean, I understand
that art is great and we don't want to force, you know, sports on kids or
anything, but we know a four-year-old has a lot of energy, right? So, I'm just
worried that, you know, recess and things like that should happen.
Obviously, we want outdoor time, right? So, is there a plan for for sort of like
a a bit of a playground eventually or is the basement going to kind of be a gym,
you know, something to just let them >> let loose of it? [laughter]
» Absolutely. Kids have energy and I I wasn't aware that there's like no kids
inside. We will have this fenced in area and we might do staggered recess. I
actually stayed in your or the noise like that was all new to me. I I had
never heard of that before so I apologize but um like we are a small
school right now we have maybe 35 students numbers change a lot this time
of year um we hope to grow but we'll never like it'll be around 80 students
um that's what we see as a good fit for the building the space so we we in the
site plan that Steve put up it shows fencing and the fencing we have a a
dream of this really nice looking composite and seat around the perimeter.
I don't want balls going into the drive-thru lane cuz right now there's a
drive-thru lane and that I think that would be a terrible shock to the guy at
Taco Bell. So >> then I also don't want balls going to
the um the garage behind us and I I'll be the one or going to get all the balls
and so that could get exhausting. So I that's a consideration and maybe we put
a net. I know 7 ft is the height of a fence for Shelurn right now. Um so
that's the perimeter, but then across the parking lot you'll see we have
fencing and the green space directly beside the buildings.
» Yeah. >> Um which we actually would like to put
um like artificial turf. >> It's just destroyed grass and mud
becomes a real issue. Um but it looks nice. We want this to look great.
» Yeah, it's a private school. They both have the standard of course we want to
deliver, >> but the fencing would be sort of in your
mind if you picture like black picket fencing,
» not with the spikes because that's dangerous, but a nice top, but the gates
would open. So, a vehicle could still drive around without any trouble. So, in
the enclosed fence area, we've been looking at products to have um courts.
There's no need for a playground structure when there's two beautiful
parks very close by. Fiddle park and and green wood park. Um but we would have,
you know, four square they hit basketball nets. Yep.
» Um again, we're not big. So yeah, and basement would be it's a perfect area
for energy kids on rainy days. And even um with the streams, they do a lot of
productions. I think they they did know not too long ago Judy Judy Jones and
they need um places to do choreography and dance and so it's an open basement
but um to facilitate um groups to be able to use that. That would be the
plan. >> Perfect. Okay. Yeah, because that was
just my only concern. I was kind of like I was like all teaching is inside and
I'm like oh my gosh is this a prison? Like what is going on here? Right. So
I'm actually glad to hear that there will be children outside. Um, I think
it, unless I'm wrong, Steve, with the, you know, relation or or whatnot to
sound. I think it was more that maybe the memorial was worried that they would
be too loud for the pool. >> That's right.
» Yeah. Okay. That's what I thought. So, not that the kids are going to be Yeah,
cuz you were kind of like, "Oh, no, no, it's not that the kids are going to be
too loud. It's that they would be too loud for the learning happening in the
school." So, um, which I I think. So um >> yeah, we didn't have any information
that >> from prior noise studies that there was
any perceptible noise from their operations of the group 5.
» I drive by there. I never care. So I would assume that that's an issue. So
and I mean a couple of kids laughing. That's a good sound. So
» I think waste that area may be the outdoor vacuum clean.
» Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. For sure. Um, so is it the
intention to share space with screens eventually?
» Yeah, like it's a perfect fit because our programming I guess I said 9. Yeah,
we're there at 8:30 and we're there till like 3:30 or 4 and
the streams um could offer before school programming starting at 7:30 and then
they they go in a little bit later. But it's a great fit because they also run
like a camp at March break for summer camps and I we don't have use of the
building then, right? So we've had a lot of negotiations with them but just about
is it best to give you this half of the door like that's all yours and this is
ours but actually we've come to see no we want to share. We'll have a couple
locked up closets but actually we do similar activities and um we're pretty
excited. I actually could have pictured one perfect I didn't know people like
them existed. I'm so excited. [laughter] We're lucky to have Yeah. Like the and
their heart for the community. So they had a dream of maybe starting a school
because they saw a need and we're not against public schools. Mark got his
foot in the door in the public education but just options are good for families
and so we the gift is they don't have to start school. will come alongside and
they assist us because we've been asked to do day camps and I don't want to do
day camps. So, it's a good >> perfect.
Any other questions for council? Any questions from the public who aren't
in the room that can hear?
No. No. Okay. All right. Well, um, yeah, I to your point, I think for a growing
community and providing more options for families to consider is always good
thing. So, I'm certainly very supportive of this and also do
anybody want to go ahead and make motion by council. by circardy.
All right. So the motion will read, "Be it resolved the council receive report
P2026-11 as information and that bylaw 31-2026
being a bylaw to amend zoning bylaw 38207
is amended by reszoning the lands known municipally as 712 Main Street East as
described legally as part one concession to old survey subject to right away
[clears throat] parts one to four on reference plan 7R51
town of Shelurn County Duff from service commercial C3 zone to service commercial
uh exception which will now be C3-2 zone as shown on schedule A1 to the bylaw to
be read a first second and third time and finally passed any final discussion
all in favor
congratulations so good good luck with the process I know there's still some
other hurdles to overcome but >> we'll have an opening
» [laughter] >> to it.
» Thank you. >> Thank you for shower.
They're
a good
Okay. So, so the next uh item on the agenda is public question period. Uh,
are there any questions from anybody?
No, nothing was submitted. Okay, texting. Okay, so we can roll right into
our presentation then. So happy to uh introduce Janon Grady who's the CEO of
our library
and I think you brought some support with you which is good. So anyways uh
welcome to the hot seat such as it is. I I pro I promise Shannon it's a friendly
friendly audience. Um yeah let Alice give your presentation
up there and I'll turn it over to you. I'll get that loaded for us. I Milford.
I'm the CEO of the Shel Public Library. So, I've been in the role for about 10
months now, but I'm still going to be with you for a little while longer.
» Stretch it out as long as you can. >> Yeah. And it's been a pleasure getting
to know the residents and town staff as we begin to work closely together to
serve the community. So today my goals are to highlight the breadth of library
services, share the economic benefit of our services and the social return on
investment and then present a glimp of our goals for the future. I'm going to
start by showing a video demonstrate the impact of authoriz.
We're at the library every week, every single week. Whether it's school time or
during summer, [music] >> you meet so many interesting people,
every demographic, families, the moms with the babies on the hips. You know,
there's videos, programs, there's books. >> You can use the computers here for
whatever you need. There's also [music] passes that let you go to places like
the ROM and Island Lake. The [music] staff that work here, they're kind,
helpful. >> They really do take the time to invest
[music] in individuals. They always found a way
to personalize my experience, my children's experience.
» They're amazing. >> The Shelurn [music] Public Library is a
place where possibilities begin. It's a place where a child's curiosity becomes
a lifelong love of learning, where ideas become innovations, where neighbors
[music] become friends, where everyone is welcome and everyone belongs. We like
to say that books are just the beginning of all we offer. [music] From internet
access, work and study space, passes to places like museums and parks, programs
and events for all ages, the Shelurn Public Library is a place of discovery,
[music] creativity, opportunity, and connection.
» Combating isolation as you get older, I think, is huge. And a program like this
[music] reaches out to the community. And I see the library as reaching out to
all aspects of community. get crafty program. We have it on Tuesday
afternoons from 1 till 3:30. It's very social. We encourage people to come even
if they're not going to craft. Get out of the house and, you know, come and
enjoy. Some programs that I have [music] attended at the Shelurn Public Library
are junior librarians, Lego club, book club, bingo, and the
teen advisory board that they host. It's fun. I get to interact with other kids
my age and I get to help my public library. [music]
» Our impact reaches far beyond our walls. Every investment in the library delivers
lasting returns, [music] a more informed community, a stronger local economy,
more equitable access to opportunity, [music]
healthier and more connected residents and a higher quality of life for all.
I approached the library in regards to setting up a literacy program and they
welcomed my idea with open arms and we were able to work with families in the
Shelurn area who needed support. And now that I work with seniors in the
community, I really advocate for not only the library um for them to come
into the library but for what the library can do for them. [music] The
services that are available here. Programs in the library during the
summer club, they're are completely free. They have all the materials that
they need here to do whatever crafting or whatever activity and everything is
provided by the library. >> To me, [music] the best kept secret of
the library is it's free. I mean, other than if you're going to use the service
like faxing or something like that, it's your tax dollar of work for [music] you.
It's super easy to make friends here. Everybody's kind, respectful, and easy
to talk to. I have learned better cooperation, better teamwork, and better
leadership. I've just become a better person in general by coming to the clubs
here. the friendly faces, welcoming smiles.
» It's more like a family and that is [music] a beautiful feeling.
» The Shelurn Public Library isn't just a place to visit. It's an investment in
our shared future. [music]
Hey, [laughter] >> for some context for the video, I
reached out to community members and patrons of ours to see if they'd be
willing to go on camera and just share a little bit about the impact that the
library has on them. And the videographers advised that I do not give
them interview questions in advance because it makes them nervous and then
they'll talk to a script and it won't be as candid. So, they did all of that
candidly. I wasn't in the room for their conversation. So, everything they said
was a surprise to me when I got to see the the first round of the video. So
pretty special to to hear that stories. Very cool. Next slide.
So I was hoping in the video to show you that Shelurn Public Library is the place
where possibilities begin and a core part of our service is programming for
all ages.
Uh so in order to enhance our program delivery beyond our staff capacity, a
big part of what we do in libraries and shelter public library is to develop
strategic partnerships with residents, businesses, governments, and community-
based organizations. Whether it's providing these partners with states to
deliver programs that are mutually beneficial to both of our strategic plan
or working together to achieve our shared goals. So this year, due to a
slight restructuring of our team and some new community partnerships that we
were able to develop, we increased [clears throat] our program offerings by
42%. And this is just January to June. So comparison comparing this that time
period to last year's um and as a result we saw 70% increase
in attendance. So already this year we've had over 3,800 people attend 183
programs. And all of these programs are free. You don't need a library card to
attend. July was a record-breaking month for us.
So, not captured here, but we hosted 64 events and had over a thousand people
attend. So, in addition to our programs that we host in the library, we also
host dozens of class visits. So, we have relationships with all of the local
elementary schools and they all come regularly for visits to the library. We
also attend school and community events. So, we were at the Grand Open Park. We
were at the BIA's car show. And these are events we consider outreach. So when
you see program and outreach numbers that's capturing all of the programs
engagement.
Um and this is just a quick glimpse of some of the new community partners that
we established this year. This isn't an exhaustive list but already these
members are reaching out to the library to see how we can work together. Um and
I wanted to touch on some of our sponsors. So when I entered into the
library our budget was already finalized for 2026.
Um, but we needed we saw a gap in programming for teens, especially in the
community. So, we needed to rely on sponsors to help do that for us. So, we
reached out uh to Danny Bracket Auto Group who generously offered to sponsor
all of our teen programs and we were able to offer a weekly program all
summer long with the teens. Uh, we also offer a teen advisory board where teens
earn their community service hours for volunteering with us. But we know that
to get teens into the library, you need to provide food. So pizza pizza
sponsored us and now we have pizza at all of those meetings and our group is
growing and the goal.
So we couldn't achieve our current service levels without our dedicated
volunteers from delivering books to seniors to hosting weekly programs for
adults to helping to maintain our collection. We have 12 dedicated
volunteers who between January to June have already volunteered 276 hours of
their time and that's an average of 11 hours a week to rely quite a bit on our
volunteers. And of course the more people that we
bring into the building uh the more for our programming through our engagement
program the more library cards that we have to sign up for. So just a note in
this chart here, while we are on a fantastic trajectory of card holders, it
doesn't depict our total patron engagement because a card is only
required to borrow material. So in that video, all of the programs and the
computers and use of our space, the printing, the faxing, all of that does
not require a library card. So those numbers aren't captured here.
Uh we have on average 100 visits to the library a day. And in July, we had over
5,000 visits to the library averaging 100 day.
Um, this shows the new members that we've had between January to June of
this year. So, 203 new members and just shows it across the geographic area. So,
Shel's winning the rates right now for new members. That's an average of one
new member every day. And just another clarifying note that these are firsttime
card holders. So if Mayor Mills for example came to the library and just and
he wanted to borrow a wrong pass but discovered that his card was expired and
he renewed that card that's not captured here completely new.
So Shan has 139 new members since January which is an average of 16
patrons every month. September is get a library card month I've been told by the
team and we're going to challenge our mayor to have a challenge across the
municipality to see who can get more memberships through the different I like
these numbers. [laughter]
» You like winning the race. >> I'll I'll issue that challenge.
» So, you might be wondering what a library card gets you access to. And as
I said in the video, books are just the beginning of all we offer. And so, I'll
just touch on a few things that they were in the video, but we offer passes
to cultural, historical, and natural sites. So, if you have a library card,
you come into library and you ask for a pass to go to the wrong and you can take
your family there for free for the day. Same with Ontario parks and you get that
pass for seven days and it's a day pass. So at the parks it's a vehicle that you
get granted access for free. So libraries are finding new and creative
ways to be able to create access to other.
We also expand access with our kio and food land which will in 2024. So since
our hours of operation are limited, this was a creative way to increase access to
our collection because Freland is open seven days a week, much more than we
are, and our staff visit the kiosk regularly to update collection. And in
July, we had a record number of 90 checkouts at kiosk. So even though it
was put in in 2024, it seems people are still just discovering it.
Another way we expand our access is with our digital library, which we like to
say is always open. So, your library card you can use and never step foot in
the library and access thousands of ebooks, audiobooks, which are great if
you're a commuter, mu movies, music, TV shows, and even newspapers in all
different languages from all around the world. So, if you'd like to subscribe to
the Toronto Star or the Glow Down, you get those quickly library card
right to your device all from home. So, public libraries are critical
cultural and social infrastructure. They are integral for building personal
entrepreneurial and social capacity through the access that we provide to
programs, information, and opportunities for to meet and connect with their
community. Our physical location serves as a gathering place for people of all
ages to engage in lifelong learning through access to local and global
resources. And libraries provide a level playing field by providing that
equitable access to resources and encouraging interactions from all social
groups. As the Ontario Library Service says, where other spaces force us into
divine roles, consumer, client, employee, or student, public libraries
are a space where unqualified humanity, where nothing is expected of us other
than our respect from one another. And in serving this holistic role, public
libraries are cornerstone of a strong community.
Sounds great, right? But as a head librarian, I'm of course a little biased
at all the great things that we offer at the library. So, how have I proved to
you, our stakeholders, and to our residents, the impact that we have on
our communities and on our residents whose tax dollars directly fund our
little library? How do we value an inherently intangible human-based
service? Well, we found a way. Librarians are good at that.
So the Ontario Library Service in partnership with the Nordic Institute at
Alma University worked with CEOs, First Nation groups, and French seeking
communities to design the Valley Ontario Libraries toolkit, which is also known
as Bolt. And this is a step-by-step guide that helps public libraries
demonstrate their community impact and measure quality how we are services. The
kit uses data that libraries already collect. So every year we're required by
the ministry to report statistics across all service levels. So data like our
visitor counts, our circulation, our program attendance, and it calculates
how much economic value gives back to its community for every dollar they
receives. So it takes our free services and turns them into a dollar amount
using the private markets, same price for that service. The toolkit then
calculates an economic value across seven domains which I haded on a
previous slide which are education, culture, inclusion and well-being,
entertainment and leisure, economic development, civic engagement and faith
culminating in a social return on investment. So I'm going to take you
through Shelurn's breakdown of the data that we received. So based on our 2025
data, Shelurn Public Library provided an economic benefit of 2.8 8 million for
the people of Shelurn and our neighbor principalities and you can see that
number there spread across the seven domain which is a little I'm seeing from
here but hopefully clear for you. So for context or comparables Calin public
liies economic benefit for 2025 was 28 million and Orangeville Library they
last did this um toolkit in 2024 and their economic benefit was over 9
million. So libraries are having a significant economic benefit on their
community. So from this a a social return on investment or an SOI is
calculated and that's by taking the economic benefit so the 2.8 million and
divided by our municipal funding. So just the funding provided by Shelurn not
the fund provided by our contract municipalities.
So, for every dollar invested in the Shelurn Public Library in 2025, $12 must
be invested back to fantastic number. Uh, we should all be
jumping up and down with joy, but it's actually bittersweet and not as
realistic as I might hope. So, in fact, when I we were calculating and we
received the results of our toolkit, I actually assumed that we made an error
and reached out to the Ontario Library Service Consultants to review our data
to make sure that we were in fact having an economic return of $12 knowing that
the industry standard and libraries aren't um we say not to compare them
because every community is so different, but the industry standard is usually
between a four and $7 return on on investment, which is still incredible. I
was going to be excited by two. Uh so what we discovered in reviewing the data
that the reason our social return on investment is so high is because we are
doing so much with so little because we of that impact and we divide it by the
multiple funding. And I can tell you that having run the library now for just
over 10 months I have the most dedicated team. I have to stop them from working
for free. But the level of service that our small team is providing just isn't
sustainable in the long term, especially as demand for our service continues to
grow. So before I wrap up, I'm just going to dig into a bit more data to
illustrate how public landings are funded.
So I'll just share a note that this is 2024 data because the ministry hasn't
yet released the 2025 data that's due to come out in the next couple of weeks. Um
but just a reminder that libraries are governed by the public libraries act and
this is our key piece of provincial legislation that establishes free public
library service across Ontario and as a result every library in Ontario receives
PLOG which is short for the provincial library operating grant and not only has
that funding not increased since 1998 which puts immense pressure on
municipalities to put the funding for libraries but as this graph shows in in
2024 Shelvin received the lowest funds when compared to library serving
populations of the same size and the reason for that is because the funding
formula was based on total households in 1998 and we know that Shelurn has
undergone extensive growth in the fast growing community in Canada and Ontario.
Um so we haven't funding has not reflected that that growth.
And then just to take us into the municipal funding as a comparison in
2024 when we looked at nine other libraries that serve populations of our
size, Shelurn was on the lower end. Um, and this I just want to clarify is not
because council has denied requests for increased funding. Council has in fact
not been asked for increased funding to keep up with the growing demands of the
library. So that is something that I'm going to be bringing forward to the
budget as we review the budget at the end of September to ensure that our
current budget meets the needs of the community right now because we are
falling behind that move forward.
And for the last one, I know you'll be launching new strategic priorities for
the upcoming term, but I wanted to highlight that there isn't a service or
program that we offer that doesn't align or reflect with at least one of
council's priorities. Our library is communityled. It's through consultation
that we determine what programs and services to offer. It's through these
effective partnerships that we develop with residents, local businesses, and
organizations that we can enhance our offerings beyond our staff capacity. The
principles of diversity, equity, and inclusion really are the foundation of
everything libraries do. Um, from how we design our space to the books on our
shelves to the welcome inclusive program. And as I have demonstrated, our
library generates significant social return on investment. Every dollar
invested produces value through improved literacy, stronger educational outcomes,
workforce development, digital inclusion, access to reliable
information, and support for learning. But beyond our measurable financial
impact, our library helps strengthen the social fabric of our community. We are a
trusted, welcoming space where people from all backgrounds together, learn,
create that. So my only ask is that when presented
with our budget for 2027 to please consider how investing in the library
not only align with council priorities, but is an investment in our shared.
you. >> Thank you.
Um, yeah, I mean, pretty remarkable when you
look at what a library of our size is able to accomplish. So, kudos to you and
team in the room tonight as well as those who are here.
And I mean ju just looking at that one number alone increasing or the increase
rather than the program >> in one year I think it's pretty shocking
in positive way. Um so congratulations. Um you're right. I mean the the library
and and I don't think this can be said in every community unfortunately but I
think certainly here the library is kind of that social cultural sit
in so many ways. The the two slides that I find the most
troubling are these. And full disclosure Shan and I had a bit of a chat a couple
of weeks ago. So, I I did get a bit of a a preview um as to what [clears throat]
some of the asks might be. Um obviously the the municipal funding that that's an
easier one for for council to tackle because it's very much within our
control. Um it'll be the next council that is considering your request. Um I
am glad that you pointed out though I mean certainly in my 12 years around
this table um I think council has always funded what's been requested. Um but
based on these numbers I guess there shouldn't be a surprise for the next
incoming council that that request may be
on the provincial side though uh I I I still think council has a role to play
uh when it comes to advocating ministry I've mentioned to Shannon one
of the the first things I think that we can look at is delegation confidence
we're not obvious obviously, but if the funding formula hasn't been adjusted
since 1998, a community that's grown as fast as ours is impacted much more
greatly than others that haven't. So, I I think obviously that the minister
needs to be made aware of that and uh encouraged to adjust that and update the
formula according [snorts] anyways
happy to continue to work work with you towards that.
Other questions or comments? >> Just wanted to say I mean echoing what
they said and having worked with you and your staff over the even the weekend's
event uh you do so much with so little and anybody that says uh you're not
doing a good job is uh sadly mistaken and probably owed apology. Uh but no,
» keep doing what you're doing and don't have our support.
But one question I would have because you know anytime there's an increase for
funding at municipal level I I think you know rightly people ask okay what do
they learn on that? So I I think
one of the arguments could be made look you know you're you're accomplishing so
much as it is do you need more money like
that right so you know in some ways your your
success can also you know in in some ways become become your enemy but you
know if if you were to receive more funding
could you put that [clears throat] to use? Yeah. So, my my top priority is to
increase our staff level. So, I would be requesting for one full-time staff.
Right now, we only have two full-time staff that includes me. And until I
started, there was only one full-time staff. So, to say that we have an
administrative backlog would be underst service administratively in terms of
policy, legislation requirements, and all of that, we are
still get behind and that's where there's a gap. and also within our
collection development. So it's that backend administrative work that really
are seeing where the need to get cut off where the gaps are. So that's a priority
and then the second priority is our collection. So the cost of e- resources
has increased substantially. So and it's increased by 43% that not sorry the
demand for e- resources. So all of the books and audio books, music, TV shows
that you can access has increased by 43%. But the cost has increased by 93%.
2022. So in 2022, we spent 15,000 just under
on our collections for e- resources. And in 2025, we spent just under 30,000. We
doubled. Um, and this is an issue with publishers not allowing libraries to
have the same level of access to ebooks and digital resources the way the public
does. So, for example, you can purchase an ebook for just say $15 where the
buyers will pay $60 for that ebook and we won't own it. You'll own it. We won't
own it. They'll only give it to us for two years. So, maybe 12 people know it
during that time. So, that's where the barrier is when it comes to our
collection. So, it really is happening at that level. And libraries um at the
provincial level are undergoing major advocacy around this, but libraries are
having to reduce access to digital resources as a result. But that's how we
stay relevant. The community wants digital resources. We are seeing a
demand for that more than our physical faults. So to meet the needs of the
communities, we have to provide the service, but it's just not sustainable.
But my first priority certainly is that
I [laughter]
know what they work with. And that's I mean that's the thing too, right?
Volunteers are amazing, but there's only so much you can continuously ask of your
volunteers, right? And it it is we we I mean, just think about it, folks. Like,
where do you go where there's two full-time staff, you know, in in a
publicly, you know, funded and and utilized space like it's
» retirements. Yeah. >> So,
» quite a bit. that change and yeah
» and and as you mentioned with the e- resources right it it's it's hard
because people are expecting to have that ability and if we have to reduce
that ability then they start getting angry what are my taxes paying for right
why are we putting $200,000 into the library and yet I've been told now I
have to have a reduction in how many books that I can take out so it's it's
hard because it's a vicious circle right you need the money to keep the you know
ebooks going and and collections going, but then people need to make sure that,
you know, they can have that and if they can't have it, then they don't want to
give the money. And so it's like, no, we need the money. So, I know it's it's
amazing what you're doing with what you're allotted. And I feel that we we
need to address that so that it can operate at, you know, full capacity. and
and you know there's other programs and things like that that potentially we
could be doing that we aren't because we just don't have the funds for it or the
staff for it or you know so yeah we're growing and we need to grow our growth.
[snorts] >> The business model for publishing is to
sell books and and your library business model flies in the face class. So of
course they're going to charge you a premium for
you know, they're items that uh for borrowing as opposed to they don't make
as much money off you. You're loaning book for free as somebody is actually
purchasing these books. So, I get that. But it puts you in a
precarious situation in terms of cost versus
good, you know. >> Yeah. I will I will just share that one
thing libraries are trying to show the publishing industry is that if we can
make people fall in love with reading, we're actually increasing their farm
debt. You give them a book, we let them try it for free and they love it, then
they don't want to wait for it again
on their own. >> Yeah. But they still very much have the
mindset that it's competition. >> Yeah.
» So, uh Deputy Mayor and I have a county
council meeting Thursday morning. So I think uh to us was more than happy to
issue that challenge to to the other mayor's deputies.
» U yeah and and just one one final comment in full disclosure Shannon sort
of offered a cute anecdote about a mayor potentially finding out that his library
card had expired. There might be some truth to that.
» Currently the member again in good stand I I don't have a card yet. Well, there
you go. We'll wait until that challenge. >> Mine, too. So,
» thank you very much. Um, yeah, look forward to hearing more good news.
» Good. And if I may, I just realized I didn't share this, but we have worked
closely with town staff to develop the for the facilities. And I want to share
how many efficiencies we found that. But if the more we do work with town staff
or that partnership, those agreements.
» Good stuff. >> Excellent. Thank you. Thank you all. Can
I have a motion to receive presentation by councelor Gashardi, seconded by
councelor Wagner. in favor. >> All right. Thanks again, guys.
Next up, we have a proclamation uh for Childhood Cancer Awareness Month. Uh and
there will be a flag raising on Tuesday, September the 1st at 1:30 p.m. across
the street here at Jack Downing Park. Proclamation reads as follows. And bear
with me, it's kind of a long one. Whereas approximately 10,000 children
are living with cancer in Canada today. Each year about 1500 cases are
diagnosed. Because of significant advances in therapy, 82% of these
children will survive five years or more. Childhood cancer remains
responsible for more deaths in one year through adolescence than any other
disease. And whereas families facing the journey of childhood cancer need the
best possible medical, financial, and emotional support we can provide. Every
family touched by childhood cancer needs support, needs to be supported, assuming
of its relatives, neighbors, teachers, and community. Parents need to
understand and be compassionate from and receive
compassion from their employers. Brothers and sisters need special
consideration both at home and in school. Young cancer patients themselves
need every opportunity to express and pursue the dreams that are the hallmark
of childhood and the hope that cancer can be beaten. Whereas this month we
recognize the dedication and hard work of all those scientists, health care
professionals, parent organizations and volunteers who are working to overcome
childhood cancer and assist these families. We admire and support the
courageous youth and their parents who struggle with this disease. And whereas
we applaud and commend the dedicated volunteers at Candlelight Central
parents children with cancer for the work they do for families children
cancer in our region. Now therefore, I, Mayor Wade Mills, on behalf of council,
do hereby proclaim September 2026 as childhood cancer awareness month.
So if you're available, please join us on Tuesday, September 1st at 1:30 for
council inquiries. >> Council Wagner.
» Um, okay. So I'll kind of go with my quicker, easier one first. Um Jim, I was
just wondering if you have any updates on the lane closure that is on Main
Street over by 124. It kind of appears to me like they are done. Um but the
pylons are still up and it's sort of impeding traffic still. So I'm just
wondering when they will be done.
» It's true. It's true. But >> uh tree worship we do have regular sight
meetings. Our last one was in late July over there. uh Tuesday on Wednesday they
were going to do paving which they did do. Thursday was to be the line marking
on the street and then opening for that weekend. So they're a few weeks behind.
Uh I did inquire with the uh engineer in charge of the project. Unfortunately I
haven't heard that yet. >> It is in MTO's controller. So be
something
» right. So I'm just like okay >> yeah I'm like it's time to go. So, okay,
we'll just, I guess, keep our ears open for any updates or whatnot to see when
those will be down. Um, so my my second one is is a little more um tricky uh
just because um with the community concerns lately on Facebook, um they're
definitely becoming louder and more frequent with regards to uh breakins and
um you know, suspected drugous and things of that nature. So, um I think
part of the problem is is maybe the community doesn't understand council's
limitations within policing. Um you know, I'm seeing a lot of chatter where
we're not doing anything. Um we're deferring, we just don't care. Um so I
guess I don't know if maybe we can speak to sort of what limitations council has
with regards to policing um and requesting certain things. Um, secondary
to that would be what the procedure would be or if we can create some form
of a town hall where we can get um, OP to come and answer some questions or
even just come and speak with to council just to give us some something um, with
regards to, you know, what they're doing to find solutions to stop this. It it it
just seems to be continuing to increase it. I'm sure they're doing obviously
stuff behind the scenes that we don't necessarily know or they can't even tell
us because obviously as we know there are certain procedures and protocols
that they have to follow in order to make any kind of conviction stick right
so they're not going to be able to give us or the community specifics but I do
find or feel that there should be something that they can offer us to help
the community understand that it is still a priority and they are on it. Um
because right now it just really seems like we're seeing an increase and you
know the community is getting frustrated, right? Because they're just
thinking like why don't we have more patrols? Why don't we have more people
you know in place to get these guys when they know they're hitting specific areas
in our town on a regular basis at a certain time. So just I mean you know
like I said if we can just kind of have a little bit of oversight on that just
so anyone watching or anyone who will watch can kind of have some more
information. So thank you for the question. I'm going
to answer part two first. So with respect to process, if Shaw Talto would
wish to make requests that the OP hold the town hall, that would either be sent
directly to the detachment and or the board. The board would actually then
have that consultation. I also would suggest that the list of specific issues
that other than just Facebook information that Shelurn would put
together to say these are top 10 or these are the kind of issues opposed to
Facebook that would be beneficial. Um there were evidence of there were
examples of community hall town hall meetings that I'm aware of in 2025 held
by reference. whether or not they still do that
format. I know there has been some adjustment coming out of Aurelia how
they're structured. Um in the absence of that similar to when we went to do keep
costing we could have the detachment commander or representatives and to
address those with respect to the first part in terms of what we what were
provided services that we received in town of Shelurn and we staff to provide
a memo again. I know it's been a while. Um there is a contract with you and it
outlines the kind of things that we receive and what that contract entails
and what it doesn't. Um we also supplement a lot of what some people
would say falls into the realm or think of our bylaw, but they have
restrictions. So if that's necessary, I think that would be the OP can certainly
address that, but maybe staff would be in a better position to remind council
of the contract, how it's structured. And I know that there's been questions
that I have responded to to members of council and I'm going to address it here
just so it's out there. Um it's not a simple we want another officer like we
want what was called an enhancement in the past for XYZ. Um there are processes
in terms of the budgetary structure that they undertake to hire that person to
assign them to function and how they're structured. So we went through a very
comprehensive review when we switched from South Chicago Police Services to
the OPP. Our FTE or full-time equivalent compliment stayed intact. So I know that
there's sometimes a presumption that we're not getting the amount of service
or support and as you referenced there is a lot going on that even staff are
not privy to. There's confidentiality. So that contract is fairly succinct in
how many zap we get the allocation and I would say it's fairly um robust overall
and it's worth about $1.7 million and I know tonight there is something on the
budget. Um the ministry of finance is the one that organizationally
instructs the contract. This is your cost based on a two model. So we are now
on the new model. Call for services is the one component. The fixed component
based on your number of properties is the base. So you get a base cost that
doesn't change. It's like your water cost, right? I know people don't
understand it. Why don't I use any water? Why am I getting a bill? Okay, we
get a bill for this and then what drives the secondary component of that is the
amount of calls that you have. And those two things merge and that is also
determined by their estimate of the officers that are assigned to us. If
they don't do as many calls based on the estimate then there's a credit. So I
hope that just the highle structure of how you
» no I'll just add a couple additional comments. So, so that the way that sort
of council's interaction with the OBP govern works I mean kind of twofold but
formally you're the police service board the deputy mayor myself captainado sit
on the service board um the role of that board not unlike the way a municipal
service board works is you know that that board can provide some input when
it comes to sort of high level policy sorts of things but definitely not any
direct operational input. So, you know, at at a board meeting, you can't say,
"Look, you know, we know there's an issue on such and such a street. We want
you to go and do something." That's not the way this works.
» It's not the way it worked under Shel Police Service either. Um, beyond that
formal approach, uh, I mean, I have a fairly direct line of communication with
the detachment commander. Our permanent detachment commander has been seconded
to another position for a period of time. So kept acting
now you know and those sorts of discussions
happen fairly regularly too. I had coffee with
this a couple weeks ago. So there is lots of conversation going on. concerns
from community are being expressed, but to a certain degree that that's where
the whole council sort of stops and where policing picks up. Um, in terms of
of the requests to have members of the attend as as the CEO
said, um, I I think a full-fledged town hall might be a heavier lift. I'm not
saying it's it's not possible, but I think it may take longer. uh what we
might be able to accomplish in short order is is to have
a delegation. >> Okay.
» So acting uh inspector you know come and we could provide him with sort of a list
of things want to talk about >> right
» the seven of us around his table on the has elected us can ask questions and get
answers. So that's something that I think
» yeah that that would be great because I I just I do I feel that you know I think
people are just frustrated right now because they feel that they're just not
having any answers right and they're just
» in this limbo of you know breakins and breakins and you know it doesn't seem
like anything is happening and there it is but it's just their perception right
and so it's like and the only way to change that perception is to show them
that you know something is happening and you know we are trying right and the
police are trying
» I I think we could put either date too and see what yeah
exc
for Jim uh on the an update on water tower repairs for
the water tower >> through your worship. Uh yes, we're uh
speaking with SBA that is budgeted for this year. Um we have found out that
there is only a couple companies that do do that. They're pretty well booked for
this year. We do have kind of a hierarchy of ours coming out with
suits treatment planting top order right now and then shop expansion that sort of
thing. So the the hope is to get the RFP out this year and awarded and then pump
the repairs in next year. They're hoping to get away with just pressure washing
it and then it's going to be a full sale glass. So it's going to enclo
» it good.
» Yep. >> Okay.
» All right. So we're going to jump into our our regular agenda now. Um, one
amendment I'm going to make, our fire chief is here with us, and rather than
make him sit through the entirety of the agenda, I am going to bump item number
five, which was the addendum uh up to the number two spot. So, after we get
through kind of the the planning report, then we'll deal with you, chief, and you
can carry on with the rest of your evening.
» Thank you, sir. >> All right. So, uh, but before we get
there, um, I I am going to ask Steve to come back up and walk us through the,
uh, report for 600 Main Street
[laughter] >> again.
this back up, but feel pretty important now going out of
» Well, there is some method to my madness, man. We're paying you by the
hour.
Um so we do have some takes on that as well for this.
So Donna Bravo from Rothman Investments um limited representing receiver as well
as Patrick Harrington is legal council to the receiver and Mark Yington is the
plan. Um so I think council's very familiar with this uh development. Um
it's um has a a long history. Uh going back to um in the background of my
report, I recap kind of where we've come from. Uh which is um a developer had
obtained or previous owner had obtained draft plan of subdivision and
condominium approvals. And then um it took some time for them to secure a
builder. that builder navigated the detailed design process and and um had
home models designed and and was pretty close to getting into home construction.
The site was pre-service with all the underground services. The base roads are
there um but ran into some uh difficulty um about uh a year ago um and the
property went into receiverhip. And so uh since that time we've been working
with the receiver and their representatives to to figure out what
the options are because in March of or sorry in April of 2025 u the draft plan
approvals had lapsed there. It was very close to having final approval. A
subdivision agreement had been drafted. Many of the conditions had been cleared
but there were a few items remaining outstanding. Uh and a timeline was given
for those items to be addressed and they ultimately weren't. Um so um this is a
new provision under the planning act. We haven't had a request like this before
because it's a relatively recent um change that's been added through one of
the current government's many changes to the planning act which allows that um
expired uh draft plan approvals can be reinstated uh such as some criteria and
um one of the criteria which is is the easiest one here to to address is that
the draft plan hasn't been declared for more than five years. This one just
expired last April. So, so no problem with that. Um, the other is that this is
a one-time opportunity. So, um, although this approval had been extended several
times under different provisions of the act, the reinstatement of a lapsed draft
plan approval is a one-time thing. So, um this is an important uh decision
point for this development because um once this decision has been made if it's
reinstated, it can't be further extended or reinstated again. If it were to lapse
again, it can't be reinstated. And if it were to um not get final approval prior
to elapsing, there's no opportunity to extend further. So that speaks to the
timeline request which the applicant has asked for three years from the previous
expiry date. So it's not quite three years now, it's a little less than two,
but essentially gives um the receiver some time to continue to market the
property. Having the draft plan approvals as they've identified is
really critical to that. Um certainly marketing it for development when it
doesn't have that status is is a more challenging thing. Um, and so the
request is to allow three years from April 2nd, 2025 to April 2nd, 2028. Um,
as I say, the previous owner was very close to finalizing all the remaining
clearances. And so, um, it's not necessarily the case that the receiver
would have to have secured a developer and builder or sell the property. um all
they have to do is make sure that the remaining clearances and conditions have
been addressed including critically with the town of final executed subdivision
agreement. Um and then there were some outside
clearances including with the valley conservation.
Uh if the property were to lose its draft plan approval or if council didn't
grant the reinstatement that's not the end of the story for the development.
the other opportunities to reapply for essentially the same thing. However,
that's a longer and certainly a more expensive process and more time
consuming process for the applicant um and ultimately has some uncertainties
because we go back through all the circulations, public consultations,
appeal periods and it would ultimately be a new council that would consider
that as well. So, a different avenue but still another avenue to the same to
another path to the same kind of objective. Um but obviously the
applicant is here to request a reinstatement. Uh the third uh condition
under the act for this type of request is a bit of an odd one and it's really
been what has taken this much time to figure out and that's that there can't
have been any um purchase and sale agreements entered into for land by
description under the original draft heading. But we're not quite clear what
the province's objective was was there because one of the main purposes of
obtaining draft plan approval was to allow that to happen. Once you have a
draft plan approval, you can take deposits from interested purchasers and
um we didn't ever pro we were never provided with any purchase and sale
agreements. Um that is a requirement of the subision agreement that be provided.
It wasn't provided. uh the developer who was working on this project previously
had indicated there were some pre-sales but and we did hear from purchasers
inquiring from time to time about how long it would take for their unit to be
ready. However, that the receiver has specifically um stated by statutory
declaration that um any agreements that were made with any other parties have
been disclaimed. they're no longer valid and further that um as of the date of
their declaration that there are no um outstanding personal sale. So that um
qualifies in discussion with legal counsel to meet that third requirement
of the act that there isn't purchase and sale agreements outstanding.
It's been many months, if not more than a year, since we've heard from anybody
um who may have thought they had a unit reserved in the in the development. So,
we're not seeing any indications that there are people looking to challenge
the receiver or the town on on the status of anything. So, um we're
satisfied that the requirements of the act have met. Um the rest of my report
um just confirms that procedurally there's no public notice requirement for
this step. Um what it would mean is essentially it's back to where it was
back before April 2nd, 2025. Um that the uh engineering designs and reports can
all be finalized. The sub agreement can be finalized. That will come before
council before it can be executed. So there will be further report to the
council about this um and that they would have again till April 2nd 2028
uh to secure all those final uh approvals.
Um from there um as I've relayed to council before I know the interest here
has been well let's get this project going and get the homes constructed.
That part is maybe a bit more complicated now than it was um even a
year and a half ago. Uh because the picture has changed as you saw in May of
this year through Steve's report on um servicing allocation. We experienced
higher flows at the windwater plant than um we anticipated and still getting to
the bottom of the causes of that. Um and so the recommendation which was
supported by council in May was to not grant any new allocations to development
um at least for this year until we have more information or the wastewater plant
has advanced far enough in its upgrade process to give confidence upon the
timing of when that that additional capacity will be provided. So the third
part of my recommendation deals specifically with the applicant's
request to reinstate the uh servicing capacity and um I've just been upfront
with them that there frankly isn't capacity to allocate at this time which
again is a change in circumstances that we didn't foresee um even a year in
Appalore when we started talking with them about this. However, there are ways
to address that um given we also now on on the good news front have more
certainty with respect to the funding plan for the wastewater plant and that
was the missing piece when this development was being considered
previously and frankly an overall constraint on development continuing um
beyond what we know was already on the books. Um
I have outlined to them the timing and the steps involved in the process for
the wastewater plant um procurement and award and tendering and um ultimately
the construction and that all of those boxes have to be checked at the
appropriate time to create that path of certainty to um ensure that the
approvals can move forward to home construction and then ultimately
occupancy. Um but we do have now one other draft plan of subdivision which
has draft plan approval status which is in the same boat and that was approved
um earlier this year for the west side of town where there's 230 units that are
pending this wastewater plant upgrade. The conditions and agreements all be
structured around that and that's what we would do in this case. to uh work
those provisions into the subdivision agreement such that um activity with
respect to final approvals continue while the wastewater plant process uh
for design and tendering approvals and ultimately construction are are um
continuing to align steps in the building and construction process with
steps in the wastewater plant process. As we have more confidence about the
delivery date of having more capacity online, then we can give greater
certainty as to the timing of when permits may be issued and whether that
needs to happen with a phase manner or or what the the release of that would
look like. Um so that really is my report. um happy to
um support the direction to see this development, you know, finished. And
this is the best way to do that in my opinion to reinstate those draft plans.
Um create a more a more appetite for a builder and developer to come in and u
partner with the receiver or buy the property to finish that and then deal
with servicing matters through the subdivision agreement to ensure it's
aligned with the wastewater plan upgrades. Um so I think that's what I
wanted to capture in terms of my report. Um representatives for for the
development are here um primarily to answer questions if council has any of
them. Um they didn't have anything to present. So I'll pause there for for any
comments or questions from C. Thank you. >> Okay. C.
» Um we've seen this sort of development come back and forth so many times now
I'm losing track. Um I thought we like allocated like the allocation for them
like I thought we put some aside for them specifically and sort of saved it
so that if it did come we could sort of grant it. Did that change or did I
forget something? >> So I I should have spoke to that in my
presentation but in my report I took us back to last fall when there was a party
at the table that was interested in acquiring the property. um and they made
a presentation and outlined some changes they were proposing to the unit types
and the density. And um last fall we we thought we had more capacity available
for them and for this development generally than we found out we do. And
so there was a a preliminary reserve that was granted by council last fall,
right? but for that request specifically. Um and that that party did
not proceed with acquiring the site. >> Um and we didn't have the information
then that we do now which is that 25 flows through the plant were much higher
than we expected. Um we hope that that will correct um over the course of the
next two years but ultimately it's another sign that major development is
going to be heavily reliant on wastewater outgrades.
Yeah, that's where >> with the laping of the draft plan of
approvals, the the allocation also expired,
» right? Um we'd love to be able to say we should reestablish that now and line
those two things up but um but of an abundance of caution um you can speak to
this too as well if needed or >> of course
» recommending that no allocation decided at this time
» of course >> and that the proper pathway to the final
approval and the or to the construction final approval should be with the base.
» Yes. Now, if um we do start seeing capacity be available, would something
like this um take priority over the west? I because it's tricky, right? It's
like we want this one sort of it's so close to being there. Yes.
» But now they have, you know, somebody who purchased this now is coming in
after the West End, you know, approval and things like that. But so how does
that work with priority level? >> Definitely. And and just to put a finer
point on how serious the flow issue has become, there's also been like a
moratorum on the basement part, >> right?
» Kind of a full stop on on pretty much everything.
» Um so what we would look at first is just like the super this super capacity
allocation policy is are those things that are most ready to go, already have
pipes in the ground, um have very little left to do in terms of permits.
» Okay. And the number I'm assuming as well, right, the sheer volume, how many
go in there compared to >> it can be phased. But um I think the
hope is that as time moves on and we get closer to the plant um being upgraded
and that capacity coming online there might be some phasing or something we
can >> um start to release smaller in small
numbers >> a little bit of capacity
» but that will really depend on the circumstances at a time and what what
Steve and his team have um at their hand at their fingertips to recommend based
on the science and and the math and being careful.
» Yes, of course. >> Okay. No, that's great. Thank you so
much for clarifying. >> I'm good.
» Did you want to add anything? >> Uh just we had uh talked about how the
set is very much in line with how uh was
stop. Um I think one thing you need council to know that even during the
construction phase there are times where half be taking off for that construction
actually to happen. So that's why we are taking cautious approach. Um and I guess
the only other we have is that if council recalls when we do these
calculations they're based on the average.
So the number magically dropping is not a
high likel at this point. It's not like the use of deep flows was event that
significantly affected the plant that caused um uh bypass this past year as
well which emphasizes the the issue of uh of being cautious but average time
back as well. So I I expect that this place with a tender
contract. >> Okay, makes sense.
» Yeah. And I mean certainly from the receivers's perspective, I I can see
that marketing this property is much easier. Those plans are still in place.
So I mean I certainly have no problem doing that.
See this bad. Um but but I think both absolutely right in terms of the
allocation that
» even if we wanted to that's just not realistic option.
» Yeah. >> So
» yeah for sure >> other comments
want to make motion for the recommendation by deputy mayor hall
second by councelor sample. So just to to summarize, we're receiving
Steve's report. We are effectively extending draft plan of subdivision uh
and and draft plan of common elements convenient uh for three years from the
date of expiry which was April 2nd, 2025. So effectively giving this life
until April 2nd, 2028. Uh but the servicing allocation is being deferred
until we have a better idea of what capacity we actually have to work with.
Okay. All in favor? >> Thanks, guys.
» Oh, man. I know that.
» All right.
» So, as I said, we're going to move uh item number five up next. So, Deep
Pratt, welcome. Thank you, your worship, members of
council, staff, uh I sort of apologize for putting such a lengthy document in
front of you. Uh but I felt uh through direction of the fire board and and
personally that uh I wanted to get all the establishing and regulating bylaws
updated to accurately reflect the level of service uh that we provide our uh
partner municipalities and uh further to address some of the legislation that has
changed since the last DNR bylaw was written. We have the CRA which I believe
is 2018. Uh I'm happy to report that uh the mandatory certification piece that
was legislated July 1st, 2026, we are in compliance
uh and working towards the the piece that'll be July 1st, 2028. So really
I [snorts] don't want to take a lot of credit for the document is largely a
cookie cutter document that many of the fire services throughout the province
are using. uh it accurately reflects again the levels of service that we
provide and I I I said to the fire board and I know I've probably said it here as
well that uh one of the most important clauses to me in the document is the
limited service clause knowing that we are a volunteer fire department although
we paper call staff everybody is you know coming from their place of
residence or their place of employment so there really is no guarantee when the
tones go off that uh that anybody's going to attend. Um so [clears throat]
that clause is there just in case there's some horrendous event that you
know prevents staff from getting to the fire hall from the residence etc. or you
know something you know the last two nights we've had
two calls simultaneously. So you're running trucks you know to this incident
and then you get another incident and you just can't prepare for that. So that
that's why I think the limited service clause is important to me at least to us
as an organization and to municipalities. So uh again I think it's
pretty straightforward. I've been to council previously to talk
about the levels of service that's reflected in the bylaw. Uh this bylaw
doesn't change our levels of service. It doesn't affect our budget. It's just
kind of making sure that you know everything we do is is captured and that
we are current with all the current legislation that uh whether it's through
the well through the FBPA the fire protection and prevention act or its
regulations. So I'd be more than happy to answer any questions. Uh again we are
compliant with the July 1 uh regulation of mandatory certification. So, I'm
going to bring the report to the fire board at our next meeting just uh kind
of as an awareness piece. Uh but other than that, you know, unless there's
something specific, uh again, it's just to try and make sure that what we are
providing our our member municipalities, people know what level of service. And
conversely, you know, if we have an incident that we don't provide that
level of service, people understand that, you know what, we're not trained
to provide that and we might have to reach out to, you know, a neighboring
municipality or maybe even the province to provide that service. So, those those
contingencies are in place as well. >> And like you said, just to maybe
understand that it's volunteer based, right? Like, you know, you said it's not
all people will be able to come to the call. So that does limit our ability
sometimes. >> Yeah. Similar to the library, we have a
a full-time equivalent of two. So, uh, we have more volunteers staff that do
get paid by the hour, but yeah, there is no there is no guarantee. We have a a
great dedicated group of staff and, >> you know, but everybody has, you know,
careers and family life, etc. So, we can never predict, you know, when the tones
are going to go off and, you know, how many different incidents we might call
to at the same time. So, it's just kind of a bit of a protection, but more
importantly to me, it's, you know, to be compliant with recent legislation.
» Okay. Questions for you doing a bit of work.
[laughter] >> Can we save that conversation for uh for
a couple weeks? >> We can. Yeah, absolutely. We're the only
one Right.
» Okay. All right. >> And your current one is the most recent.
So the gold stars for children. >> That's good. That's good. Um just just
one sort of quick point on on response. So yeah, I mean it is volunteer, but
compared to a lot of other volunteer services, I think we're lucky in terms
of the response get in most cases, right?
» Yeah. It's it's quite honestly it's a constant conversation at the chief level
to say, you know, how is your response? How are you doing to, you know, to
attract staff? Uh we we we just lost one, but we we have a compliment of 38.
Right now we're at 37. Uh so there is conversation with the other fire chiefs
about doing another recruitment early in the new year so that we obtain our
levels. But as far as response, you know, we're and I report to the fire
board monthly as you're aware in terms of our trying to meet certain standards.
NFPA, which is the National Fire Protection Association, has certain
standards for fire departments. And I think we we're very close. We're very
good in terms of meeting those standards, especially for part-time or
volunteer department. I would commend the employers that do
support >> and encourage some of the other
employers to to look at opportunities for these individuals
to get them to support. >> Yeah. And and I think again we've been
very lucky to have employers who are supportive that say look if you get a
call day go ahead
and that doesn't happen in
Okay, any other questions? [snorts] Okay, so we need a motion to
receive the chief's report and then for uh leave to be given for the reading and
enacting of bylaw number 34-2026 which is a bylaw to establish and
regulate his fire department for the town of Shelmer
by Deputy Mayor Hall second by Mr. Sample. [snorts]
All in favor? Okay, thank you sir.
» Thank you worship for meeting me up the line, sir.
Looking forward to the next See you soon. [laughter]
» Okay, take care everyone. Thank you. >> See you now.
» All right, back on track. So, next is the report from our CEO regarding
traffic calming strategies. >> Thanks
detailed data. So I'm going to present an overview without hopefully happy to
take us back for every aspect of the traffic economy that we undertake in
ASH. Um Jim Moss the director is part of this
report as is Steve Bernett and Steve Weaver. He had a a role to play as well.
So he's quite excited about um something.
[laughter] So um the SBA report which is a very
technical document is attached pending squad. So that really is the
nitty-gritty of components of the project. And if you have specific
questions after I'm done, I'm going to direct all those to Steve in terms of
functionality to CO and the program and why those elements of the traffic
program are so essential to the strategy that we were trying to implement. Um
obviously just a bit of history with the elimination of the ASV program,
municipalities lost that ability to use those cameras to control speed. We know
that, you know, anecdotally from what we've heard that speed has increased in
our town. We hear from data that in other communities that have removed
them, they're they're experiencing significant speed. Um, so traffic coming
is a critical way to slow traffic down, which is actually contrary to some of
the the the foundational visions of others who want to move traffic
seamlessly. So how do we actually coales those responsibilities? Well, that's our
traffic program. So in addition to slowing traffic down, there's some other
benefits from traffic caling. There's quality of life issues. There's
pedestrian safety. There is noise reduction. And there's other elements of
road safety that we've outlined that I'm going to address. Last of regarding road
rationalization. So when the province eliminated the program, um they
implemented a supplemental opportunity called the road safety initiative
initiative fund. In contrast to how much revenue was being generated through the
AF program that can support the community's traffic calming initiatives,
this is a drop in the bucket to be fair, but it's still an important fund that we
want want to apply for. One of the recommendations outlines council that we
will be applying for that and just making sure aware of um so the traffic
comic strategy that we've developed and again the majority of all of that
technical work was completed by SBA. Um, within the body of the report are some
highlights and they're specific to what is eligible through the funding program
which you have to be within 500 meters of where your camera was. So, we went
through the mapping to identify all of the tools and the locations where those
trafficcoming initiatives would be done. I will note that one traffic island was
highlighted in this report for William and me. Um, I did write that would be
undertaken in August. I was on vacation last week and it started today. So, I
was a little bit behind the eightball there, but the critical thing about that
is it will address a couple of things. U the no left terms, which have been a
real problem for us and preempting that date, have been difficult with signage.
This should be a key um component of that and we've also joked today, but I
think we're not joking that we're going to put some flower box on it and it's
going to be our manual on flower box. So, I will look at that. So the list of
everything that we're recommending that's within the 500 meters is on page
four of four and five of 11. Not going to get into that total budget on that
eligible vote just over 1 million. And then when we get to the actual budget
I'm going to flip that to Carrie if you have questions with respect to all of
the what we have funding for from the preunding what we have eligibility for
from the application funding and what we have in terms of our ASF funding
received and to follow. So we've looked at an implementation schedule based on
strategy for what would be happening in 2026 um because we can use our existing
money for that and it's really still still a robust program and what other
than the concrete island which is underway within the 27 package which
would require some of the applications to be undertaken engineering work to be
done and that program to be initiated. What is specific and while you do not
have to approve this uh we decided as staff that it would be important to have
you approve the literal location of the speed bumps. These are permanent speed
bumps. And I know you feel like you had questions in terms of spacing or
comments. Um, and you might go, "Are you are you serious? 10 on one road." Yes.
Because one is inefficient, two is ineffective, and you have to have a a
continual number of them in order to slow that traffic. So, you do not have
speed. Get over the hump. Speed again. So just in terms of outreach, we didn't
want the community to then contact you as members of council and say, "Why is
this happening on my street? Are you aware of it?" And you're going to say,
"Well, it was in a staff report, but I'm not really sure." So those locations are
very prescriptive for that reason. Um so really that's the heart of this report.
Um in terms of the technical what we've added to this because we have so many
questions of staff and we've had review with respect to locations of projects
that are listed through the SBA analysis is another issue and that is called road
rationalization and how do you tie that into trafficcoming because the literal
ability to make decisions on road is affected by the jurisdiction under which
it's controlled by. So within the town of Shelurn, council has many questions
to staff that involve Highway 124, which is actually county road 124. I know we
hear that. We got to correct that. Not in a not like they just and then county
road 11, which runs adj. So we listed a number of things that
jurisdictional adjustments would allow. And then we had a we had a speeding
adjustment for at the requested council to drop 11 and drop 124 down to 40 for a
reason. It was more about the abutment and that intersection at 124 and 89
where we know schools will be walking in the future. We have a lot of pedestrian
traffic there. We were part of the we support vision zero in principle because
we know we have the data that if you're a pedestrian and you're hit at 40, your
chance of survival is a lot higher than if you're hit at 60. And we know that
the demographic of that crossing tends to be a lot of seniors and children. So
that's one thing. Um [snorts] I'm going to read this list
intentionally so that it's an awareness that you have better control over your
road access for development. We deal with that a lot. Um we have situations
where trails and linkages could be better managed. For example, in terms of
part surfacing and connections within a protocol that the town
we've identified in our project scheme um crosswalks of PXOs and many of those
need to be on those roads that we do not control because we know that those
linkages cross park, those linkages on 24 over to Fieldgate, those are also
critical. Um, and while we don't have the ability uh to do bike lanes or hard
surfaces within our roadways for many reasons, there may be opportunities to
do those within shared pedestrian corridors like sidewalks. And I know
I've skipped sidewalks, but sidewalks on certain roads. We know that we are
hearing community input that they would like to see a sidewalk on 124 between
Wasow Way and down. And we have been a staff working on that. Again, that road
that road is not within our jurisdiction. So there has to be some
kind of different approach to get that and it most likely will not be all the
way down. It will be down and over. So again, yeah.
» Um the other thing that I know our industrial partners and many of our
largest employers in the town of Shelurn um are dealing with or have to deal with
where the town has had to be I guess a conduit and voice to help advocate on
that if jurisdictions that we would be having
oversight of those probably not in. And then the biggest issue and this is where
the planning side meets um the technical engineering urban side is we are aware
that in other larger geographic counties or regional government there is
[clears throat] a difference taken when rural or county ride road
integrate with an urbanization and that the whole traffic calming design
adjusts. So for example, when that road enters urbanization area, there's
automatically an expectation or a design premise that there would be a sidewalk,
there would be biking, pedestrian support, there would be different
intersectional adjustments and the whole design changes from moving traffic
seamlessly to pedestrian first. So again, that's in there and that is
really what is under the fleet streets type of planning approach to management.
I know this is a big app. I know that the um
road rationalization of the county was put on hold temporarily in February. We
were not part of any road that was adjusted. Um I won't comment on
consultation and how engaged we were or not. We um we would like [clears throat]
more engagement going forward. So that request is to reopen up that
conversation to make these formal requests. And I'm going to say what they
are from County Road 124 from Highway 89 to 124 way point up. Um it's from County
Road 11 for the intersection of 189 all the way over to 30 and then just to make
it more complete link street approach we would go from side road 30 all the way
over Victoria. Okay. So that that is not really
technically usually what you'd consider within a traffic calming report, but it
is important for us to achieve our goals and objectives in traffic, especially
with the project list and the locations that SBA has identified within this
meeting do. So that and that in the summary is it got the locations of
stems. I would want if Steve or Jim um are then hearing on the finances to
address any questions on behalf of the council to share it with my colleagues.
I can maybe go first. The only thing I want to say is that the way it was set
up as far as timing was for balancing what would be done this year and what
money was already available then what funds applying funding make
sure that funds are placed through and really maximizing that
funding. I'm not going to bore council by reading
every single one, but we have tried to break it out very clearly where we're
doing uh speed bumps or cushions as it's referred to in the reports. That way you
can exactly see what street, what intersection
uh raise sidewalks to try and help similarly at intersections on where the
PXOs were recommended. I think there's five total um where the signage and sort
of narrowing or having a lot of
um so I think it's something that go through and actually see there is a map
back to highlight
just from a planning perspective as you can see most of the development has been
more around per in those um locations were dealing with
road that aren't in the town's jurisdiction and describing those see
how they look at the open ditches shoulders. Um they're designed primarily
to move traffic through the area as quickly as possible and to avoid uh
intersections and and other things that either slow traffic down stop. And um
the the local mindset is we need access to property. We need streets that can
accommodate more than just cars. Uh we need pedestrian safety. The more cars
and higher speed that they're going, the more risk there is to pedestrians. And
um we need opportunities. And when you start to add storm sewers
and curves and intersections and line painting and separated pathways, the
safety increases and then suddenly the traffic speed
or anyone who's driving out of the countryside auto
bit faster. There's less risk than when you're in town and you're surrounded by
all these other physical features. Um so this would the road
rationalization is is really um a way to integrate roads and lanes better because
it brings that more wholesome picture of roads into the planning realm um versus
looking at it primarily well a developer wants to do something
on a road let's make them their section of road fix it up and urbanize it and
implement some improvements have more comprehensive view let's prepare the
roads so that they are aligned very development and automation.
It is something that involves a lot of cost and design and all those things.
But um you know just bring an integrated planning and engineering locally control
mindset and and to that point Steve one of the
things I don't think it's any surprise but and I'm sure others feel the same
way but one of you know biggest iridence that that I've had is that we haven't
been able to make progress on on solving that safety issue along
Um I mean if if we are able to to achieve this have that ownership threat
to the town setting aside the obvious you know budget issues which which
council will have to deal with. I mean just just from a logistical point of
view and it could be evident to move pretty quickly to get that resolved
right. >> Yeah. as the other thing it enables is
um well while cost is one of the biggest challenges with that is that it's a
different view of what grow standard should be and then actually enables
growth related right now
asset you don't really mean to collect development charges or build it into
your uh capital you're rely on
municipal government to do that that then links it to countywide development.
So it definitely brings more opportunity to do it sooner and resource funding for
more. >> Yeah.
The only thought I had relative to that is as Denise mentioned the sort of you
know wholesome countywide broke rationalization project has kind of been
put on ice for a while. Um, and there's a lot of issues at play there, but I
still think that something like this could make happen
regardless of what goes on with the rest of that that project. So, um, but I I
think having a formal motion where council's blessing that transfer of
ownership >> allows, you know, those of us who are
representatives at the county table to say, "Okay, well, you know, let's let's
[clears throat] figure this out and make it happen.
Any
other questions on this? Sorry, I didn't know if your hand is off. Oh, it
» is now. >> Um, so I see in the list of areas that
you've got like those floppy bullards. >> We like the floppy bullards.
» You guys like them, >> but they don't slow traffic.
» They do. >> They don't.
» We have to feed things to show us. >> Well, I was
» You were speeding. I mean, >> I just happened to be in the area
and First Avenue
where I was that day, they were not slowing. And it was I was to the point
where I said, "Okay, I got to get out of here because something's going to
happen. There's going to be an accident because it was so fast."
So I I find in Greenwood or Phil Park, sorry, where I live, uh, they ain't
slowing anybody down that area that I can see. So
» worship been there myself have noticed that some
people they just won't slow down anyways. Some of the flexible rollers
have taken a beating. >> Yeah, I've seen that, too.
» They don't care about their vehicle. They're just going to pop back up. But
it it does slow a lot of people down and it just narrows the road. Um it throws
off their perception of others where it just forces them to slow me down.
» I I I get that. But there's still a lot that figured it out and especially I'm
gonna say probably 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 years old that figured out how to get
there quickly through that. Uh there is a federal park lane. There are
recommendations in here for other measures to uh elevated uh intersections
as well as the street crossings, that sort of thing, especially in the school
area. Well, I I think we're putting more speed fun secions in than we are the
other ones, which I think is good. >> It's just I just know that I when I'm
when I'm in the streets, especially in those areas, they're not I don't see it
slowing down with the bigger vehicles. Yes. So, the guys with the F-150s and
the and that kind of truck, >> they're slowing down. I was going to say
I mean I know myself driving through it definitely slows me down because there
isn't an awful lot of room there's not much small vehicle yeah
» take that on your advice and if there's flexibility with respect
to projects on what streets streets particular then we
» I like to see that there was less >> we know we know that the um the sea
cushion because there's there's how they're situated. you have no choice but
» like you have to slow down and you took that as a serious a serious tool because
the council has told us that you consistently are concerned about the
speed of let alone the fact that there so we can through Steve's team we can re
reconsider some of those roads and if the next project phase allows us to the
2027 um undertaking and including when we get
more of our ASC covered. As Carrie said, you know, this
is the projected amount. It doesn't mean all of that will be covered. You're
pretty sure what essential is because if you don't pay, your ability to get your
plate renewed is also so there is there's there may be a timing issue, but
usually at the end of that time, there will be some revenue that will support.
[snorts] >> So, okay. So, we we can look at some of
those things and whether we need to rejoice.
Yes, >> that's the other thing about that. And
we also have to be aware of we know fire was fine about the island
because they said they go around anything and we also were aware of what
we didn't want to impact our our ability to do snow maintenance
particularly on roads where we have a lot of on street parking seasonally even
though we have snow before delayed on street parking.
» Yes,
» I will be here for that.
stay on it. [laughter] >> So I if I if mayor will do when he reads
the recommendation literally read out the streets for the speed bumps the
speed cushions which were um that would be appreciated
» and and the speed cushions you said a couple of times are permanent. So yeah,
so Jim like I [clears throat] know initially there was some concerns about
snow plowing and everything else that but okay
worship once there.
» Yeah, >> you got worn down.
» Just wanted to sorry just wanted to add that I had a good conversation with man
who's on char and uh highly
recommending anything we can do to slow traffic down
zero. So I'll get that to September as well.
» I can. Excellent. Okay. Well, at the CEO's request, I will read out the
recommendation of all the form and for you resolve the council receive his
report CAO 2026-03 regarding traffic calming strategy for
information and council approves the following locations for permanent speed
cushions. [clears throat] Nishnab Drive, Red Elm
Road to Highway 24, five speed cushions. Berry Street, Phil
Park Lane to Greenwood Street, five speed cushions, Phil Park Lane, Berry
Street to Warden Street, four speed cushions, Greenwood Street, Main Street
East to Phil Park Lane, 10 speed cushions. And Simon Street from Victoria
Street to Main Street East, 10 speed cushions. And that a road safety
initiative fund funding application be submitted by the town of Shelurn to
implement traffic calming measures. And that my favorite that town of Shelurn
requests the county of Duffren as part of the county's road rationalization
project also review the transfer of ownership to the town of Shelurn of road
sections listed better fully support the town's commitment to complete streets
pedestrian and cyclist safety as well as the town's planning and development.
Those sections are County Road 124 from the intersection at Highway 89 124
Northway, County Road 11 from the intersection at
Highway 8924 south to side road 30 and side road 30 from second line to
second that That's your sample.
» Okay. >> Not that I would
[laughter] >> just
for
» all right. All in favor. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Steve. Thanks,
guys.
» All right. You guys are sticking around for the
next one, I assume, too. Next report is also from our CEO
regarding the Shelurn library board structure and governance.
» Thanks very much Jennifer.
So this report is the next ph of the review this
last reported back and all of the news report linkages there. I don't want to
have to take us back to every report but I will try to highlight some of the
connections between this report. So what we had reviewed is the library
governance structure and the legislative authority for the board and whether or
not it was a unique library discovered that we don't believe it is. What we're
trying to solidify and find is how did how did this unique structure come where
there are representatives appointed by other municipalities on the shel public
library. We compare that to the trend or I should say the trend of tradition
where other municipalities are exclusively that municipality is the
council of that municipality is the appointing through the process whether
or not that representative from another municipality like is the case in New
where they have service areas within the municipality that are authorized to have
a rep but is appointed by them. We also compared in the report how the town of
Orangeville's public library is a regional library that provides service
to many other communities that that are surrounding them, but their board is
exclusively represented by the town of Orangeville residents of the town of
Orangeville. So the report has sort of gone through
that history. Um we [clears throat] looked at a number of different
scenarios with respect to governance and provided the composition option. So the
first option which really in fairness is not an option um because it's
inconsistent with the library the libraries act and the authority under
which the representation is supposed to be comprised and we did note that in
previous reports that not only did it resemble more of a union library in
terms of functionality and representation but you're not supposed
to have that many elected officials on a board because that is outweighing the
number of residential records. So theoretically status quo or option one
is not an option. It would be an inconsistency with the continuation of
what is inconsistent. Doesn't make a lot of sense but um so what we also report
uh highlighted in the report which I know council has repeatedly asked staff
about is the budgetary alignment and that about 56% is paid by the town of
Shelurn and the rest of that balance is paid by the other four municipalities
that are represented on the port. What also changed in 2026 under council with
council approval and I know CEO referenced it is we developed anou with
respect to property and facility building whereby the transfer of those
capital projects or maintenance related costs under asset were almost
exclusively becoming a function and budgetary issue for the ten shelter. We
established through director of financial services on that team that we
have a new reserve. It started at 50,000 and we continue to contribute that
annually plus pay the capital. So in the analysis that is primarily about the
structure and based on the fact that current structure is not something that
we recognize was formalized that that formalization is critical to the
recognition of the structure legislatively. It's also critically
responsible for the town of Shelbert to have an authority to do the appointment
that the structure that we've recommended is option two at this time.
What that is looking at is a hybrid. Option three is not a hybrid. Option
three is the norm for the most part. But option two would correct the over
representation of elected officials. It would position the authority of the town
of Shelurn Council to appoint to the library through the town appointment
process, but would provide representation opportunity for those
municipalities that are serviced by the Shelurn Public Library as partners or
through agreements or alternatively through non-resident fees if that became
supplement or fallback that they would have a resident representation on the
board. where that resident representation was
not applied for or determined to be through the town of Shel Council
authority that positional or that representation would be defaulted to the
town shel residential the other option is that you wouldn't fill all nine
[clears throat] up to seven so [snorts] and then I said option three is where
you would have quite a drastic change and that the representation on the board
would be solely limited to two members of Shelurn Council up to and then
residential representatives again solely and exclusively managed and appointed
with the authority of Shelurn Castle. Option two is predicated on two
assumptions. While theou is addressed, the
operational capital should call off the capital cost being the exclusive
function of the town of Shelurn going forward almost exclusively.
There is an assumption under that model option two that the proportional
budgetary structure would remain. So if municipality ABC was paying XYZ right
now, they would continue to pay that proportional amount to the budget and by
virtue of making that commitment, they would have representation of a of a
residential rep on the board to make decisions about board functioning and
operational decisions and all the great program.
It is also assumed that if you did not participate and continue past December
30 of 2026, you would default to the non-resident.
So there's two things that could come of that by the that that municipality no
longer participating in the cost sharing proportional model for the budgetary on
they their residents would default to the non-resident fee and currently the
non-resident fee for Shel Public Library is under $20. We've included in the list
what the summary of other municipalities in Ontario were charging. It ranges from
Owens being 500 to some being 30. So that would be how how the governance
would have to be structured in order for this to make sense. You can't not fund
the activity in order to achieve representation.
So the finances could go a number of ways. We we accommodated that in terms
of the estimate at a very high level. So if certain municipalities decided that
we no longer because of the new structure that is being recommended wish
to participate on the board, their service agreement would continue based
on an allocation. Or alternatively, every time a resident that is from that
municipality use the library under the current format where you have to have a
library card for take off the books, not use the programs, they would be levy the
cost. So we know that there could be a shift on top of what the CEO has told us
in terms of the hope with their budget just in terms of a base amount that
Shelurn may have to pay with this adjustment. So we're not saying that
this is revenue neutral. We are saying that there potentially might be an
increase to the town of Shelurn, but that certainly is an outcome that is the
result of a change in structure that that support.
So we're not I guess we're not naive that change is not change is difficult
and we know that this is not necessarily a way that everybody would potentially
like to see. But that's why staff would look at a hybrid. And so really your
options option one is not an option. So you have option two and three and we
recommended as a balanced hybrid in the in transition and it could potentially
be a pilot. We didn't put that on there but I I believe that the authority of
Shelurn Council would mean if it wasn't working you could tweak it accordingly
with with a couple of years of that's really the overview. um any procedural
things with respect to legislative flying refer to Jennifer on that and we
do have our library CEO still with us um and I know that her her background has
been working with an organization path where the board is solely represented by
that town um municipal and elected official that that's the heart of it and
the recommendation is good thank you questions comments
This This one's tricky now because I was all for potentially recommending to go
with the third option, [sighs and gasps] but I'm worried about
potential cost increases, especially because as we heard, we already are
potentially going to be reviewing additional costs. So
I'm just right now because if they get angry that we've decided to adopt,
you know, a model that almost [snorts] every other uh library board follows,
it's still such a drastic change that they might say, "Fine, we're out of
here." And I get it. They're going to have to pay, you know, the residents
will then have to pay or or we will have to charge the municipality or however
that's going to go the non-resident fee. But I'm not I just don't know if that
would equate what they currently pay to to
help support the function of the library, right? Like you know because
some people may be like, "Okay, fine. Then I don't want the library card at
all." So then we're not receiving as many um non-resident fees and then the
whole of what they they currently contribute goes down drastically as
well, which then means shining has to increase. So I'm a little down now torn.
» My thought would be that option two is is probably the best one at this point.
Denise said a couple of dimension changes. We all know that
course quite a bit of change in the last four years. Sometimes that has to be
done a little more gradually but uh but but I think option two does a
couple of things. It gets us moving in the right direction.
But it also, you know, kind of gives a nod to the tradition that we've had
there in terms of, you know, contribution, cooperation with those
other partners. So I I'm I'm most comfortable with what I can do.
» Um because it's not a complete 18 pivot from where we are, but it gets us on the
right path. >> I would prefer if if we do choose option
two that we definitely highlight as a pilot.
I I think we need some time to see if it works and we need to be able to have an
out adjusted >> and I think Jennifer correct me if I'm
wrong. I think children council today would have that
by changing
it doesn't stop the other councils not [snorts] only they've chosen as far as
council to be res representative that it's applying
» right [snorts] they if they're a resident of the
» township they can apply Yeah. Yeah.
» So I know that it's two members assigned by Shelurn and then there's
representatives from each municipalities fill up the rest of the seats. Doesn't
stop them representative. We're going to put an
application in this person's name. Whether they're chosen that's different,
» right? >> Right. when you when you look at costs
like even with you know option two the municipalities I think the bigger
concern is going to be that this group of people are going to bind them to a
budget they have no control >> right
» that that's the reality >> you know regardless of option you know
two or three it's the same not completely elimin you just accept it
for what it is >> but you know from what was presented
tonight by It's it's pretty clear that there's a a return on investment that
you many have for years not necessarily accepted or realized.
So I think option two gives you the the
medium ground and you know if it doesn't work you still have option three after.
» Yeah. Yeah. And that was my my torn between the two as well because I don't
I don't want to be that municipality, you know, like we need to have good
neighbors, right? Like we need to be a good neighbor. So I don't want to just,
you know, say too bad contribute to the library, but you don't get any say. So
even at that, even if I went with option three, I would say, is there a way to
create some form of an advisory where the other municipalities could once a
year or something like that have a, you know, a conversation with the CEO or the
CEO and, you know, bring their concerns or their questions or whatever. So it's
not like I wanted it just like by you know what I mean, but it's just
» Yeah, exactly. Right. Like just comment. But it's it's just for me it's Shelurn
contributes so much that it's hard when you're looking budgetarywise or whatnot
to have the other municipalities.
Again, I want their say, but I don't know, maybe not as much say, you
know what I mean? >> They saying like there's something for
them to ask or comment on or there still is a system in place that that exists.
» Yeah. >> Yeah. like the library is there to take
whatever questions that need to be. >> Yeah.
» And remember there was without mentioning which but there was
municipalities that said we don't want to put towards capital.
» Yes. >> We we're out of the capital.
» Yes. >> Well, that's not growing the base.
That's not growing what needs to be done.
» Yeah. >> So, you know, I think they've already
said their piece. This is we're not willing to do this. So somebody has to
and this represents the change of what we have to do.
» Yeah. Yeah. Because I think that was my my main concern with theou that we
created, right? Because I'm like what I don't understand is you want now Shelurn
and Shelurn residents to to spend 100% of the capital cost but and I get it.
you're contributing but your you know your your people are coming in and
they're using the elevator and they're going to the bathroom and they're
flushing the toilet and they're you know so there are things that they are using
that you know your your current contributing amount is not now going to
necessarily cover right you're you're going to be covering more the
operational part of it and so that was my my big hangup on BMW [snorts] was I
was like it's kind of not fair that you guys still get to come in and again use
our elevator and use our you know facility as a whole but aren't now
necessarily contributing to the wear and tear that your people are going to still
put on the library right you're putting that on shelter
can't look at it that way because you've got look at all our parks
» millions of dollar parks and e right so pay back on those. So
» that's true. >> You splash that.
» Exactly. So, >> I know. I guess it was just one thing
that I was like, >> you just
» it's one more thing that, you know, >> Shelurn as a whole, people who live here
who pay municipal taxes have to kind of fund while there's a benefit to the
municipalities around us that they don't have to, right? And I was just like, so
» hopefully when they're here using the library or the parks, they're spending
money to Oh, yeah. >> supporting our local support, right? And
I see so I see both sides of it but sometimes I just get a little frustrated
and then you know assuming other probably shelter do too where they're
like why will we have to always be the one paying for everything right so yeah
so really the heart of the process that we descended to was strictly
» it recognized a structure that wasn't >> yes
» and that because of that review correction was required because it was
not legislated in compant with how a board is structured and as we said is
not a union public library and it usually is a union public library that
word union public library is usually on the building
» right so we've gone through all that we exhausted that and the reason we're here
and we sort of stripped out the inequities and some of the other things
we recognize that you know theou was probably the start of this analysis
moving forward but you know there there currently Is a lot
of review being undertaken by our municipal neighbors particularly to the
south of us regarding frameworks equity and taxation where one municipality's
regional approach to provision of service is being heavily subsidized by
that local taxpayer and that's there's no that and that imbalance is is is
common in smaller particular so to the parks there's a great issue to other
facilities ities where there's an imbalance and say the non-resident fee
is is minuscule in terms of even representing cover recoverable. Yeah.
All of those things hopefully in the future need to be addressed with service
deliver as opposed to like highle statements without the data to support
what that subsidy is and how those operational facilities need to be
supported or not and then justifications. That's all part of
transparency and accountability and I see that you know there's going to be
more service areas that not want to because the scarcity becomes the reality
which is becoming more so every day for us with the lack of DCS um we're going
to have to start and I think somebody or somebody made a comment about the
efficiencies that come through systems and those
aren't painful they are not punitive they are simply productive and they're
they put a lens on things that have never been lensed
And you find that you know the status quo or the way we've done things there's
opportunity to make change. >> So I don't want to make this about I
know I said this is difficult. There's change but it's a required change.
» Yeah. And it's been it's been I think now
2018 when we first dove into this, right? And it's taken that week. Yeah.
» Yeah. And and not not to say what I said before. In my mind, option two gets us
to in terms of that compliance and that necessary change with the least amount
of disruption for now. Well,
you answered both of my questions in your speech.
» Yes. But but I I agree option two is probably our best bet to get to as long
as down the road we look at all the serviceables and everything that go
along with it to make sure that >> how we fund it gets funded the right
way. You know what I mean? So if if they decide everybody decides they're
backing out and it's 100% shelter, then how do we fund all this? We
strategically we have to start looking at how
out of town fees are applied and what they're applied to and what they're
applied on and all that kind of stuff. So as long as all that's in here, I'm
okay, too. >> Yeah. So, I mean, I know Shannon
addressed it, but the collaboration since she's joined the team with county
shelter staff has been like 7,000%. There's such a connection between our
recreation development, our events program staff, our communication staff
um that that energy with respect to sharing of information which is only but
I have a feeling some of that is positive because the that outreach is
now reaching a larger audience. So maybe some of the membership is is a result of
that community connections, your presence at events, our sharing of this
information or our social media. That's all positive. And in many ways, as we've
talked, um there may be things in our recreation plan, for example, that we
won't need to do because we focused on a dorm. We're focused on this because with
this partner, there's a better symbiosis.
Is that the correct word? in terms of that non-file and that lack of siloing
has certainly been a benefit to the community.
» Yeah. And I think we're going to continue to drive that kind of
relationship and partnership in everything we do. and the awareness of
what they they provide, how well that's received for the community, um is
something that in the case of a funding envelope gap, we would have to adjust.
» I think the top
want to make a motion counc [clears throat]
that would be Mayor Hall. All right. So, the motion will be to receive the report
and that option two uh which we've discussed at length be adopted and that
all representative serving on the Shelurn Public Library for the next term
of Shelurn public library board commencing around January 1st 27 be
directly appointed by the town of Shelurn Council. town's committee and
board appointment process and that an establishing bylaw for Shelurn public
library board be prepared by town staff for the consideration and approval of
council by the end of September 26. All in favor
it's carried. Okay, good. Thank you. Good discussion.
All right. And the last item is a bylaw um for the town to execute an agreement
between the town and integrated maintenance and operation services inc
which is the annual agreement that we enter into
there. Any questions on that one? >> Yes. Pretty straightforward.
» Do it every year. >> Yeah.
» Motion to that >> by Wagner. Seconded by sample. All in
favor? It's carried. All right. So, we do have one notice of motion
from councelor Wagner. We don't want to consider that in the
next meeting. >> Uh, I don't know what's the procedure
for that. Did I submit it in time where it can be voted on tonight or do we have
to pre
otherwise? >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's whatever you
guys want to do. It's it's it's kind of it's not anything super sensitive,
right? Like, it's not where I feel like you guys would need like a couple weeks
to ponder over it, but if you need to, I'm okay with that, too,
» cuz I'm your I've been an advocate to say that if you
submit a motion, we should have the time needed to review it, right? But with
this one, it's pretty it's not anything crazy. You know what I mean?
» I'm fine. So yeah, is there any objection to considering it tonight?
» Okay. >> No, there we go.
» Is there a seconder then for councelor Wagner's [clears throat] motion?
» Council and I'll just briefly sort of speak to
it. I mean it, you know, obviously it's a little bit lengthy. I don't really
think I have to read the whole thing. People can read it. Um but it it's just
for the fact that um you know we're growing and with our growing town, we
need diagnostic services and and things of that nature and you know it's great
that we're getting a new um office that's opening up with um you know bone
density x-rays, ultrasounds, things like that. Uh so to support that um you know
we used to when we were a smaller town have life labs um operating from I think
it was 8:00 in the morning until 2:00 in the afternoon and then all of a sudden
they just decided I guess it wasn't as busy as they thought it was going to be
and they removed 2 hours. So um I put it on myself to be like okay let me just
see if I can email somebody and and ask how do I try to advocate to get some
hours back. Uh I spoke with Claudette and uh she's our sort of regional um
manager I guess you could say and we had a little bit of a lengthy sort of
conversation and and she said to be honest she's already been advocating for
this but what she needed from us um was just some formal support right um
community support having people in the community email her to just give them
their you know concerns over the lack of you know extra hours or or you know
ability to get in. I mean I know myself now if I run get in there on a Saturday
it's crazy like it is packed and before I could just kind of walk in 20 minutes
you sit there and you're out. Uh last time I believe I waited almost two
hours. So um you know uh this is just something that she can't make the
decision on. she has to have statistical data that you know from requests and
things of that nature not only from Shelurn but maybe even municipalities
around us because we all know that the municipalities around us are coming in
to use the life labs. So um you know that helps her create a case for her
bosses which also helps to create a case to the province because there's multi
levels in um you know something as simple as adding a few hours.
So, um, we did also discuss a little bit about expansion as well, but the the
first priority would be to just try to get at least to 2:00 back. Um, ideally 4
or 4:30 and do a full day every day. Um so yeah so this is just sort of a formal
you know we can say the council supports this as well if we can share this with
the municipalities around us and maybe have it on their um you know
communications where they can pull it and say hey yeah you know what our
community uses this life labs and we would actually like to support Shelurn
in their advocacy for extended hours >> and and it'll get circulated in the
something else that maybe on Thursday we can just mention to the at least
immediate surrounding municipalities here.
» Yeah, that would be wonderful. So, yeah, like it's it's nothing crazy, but it's
just us saying we we want this for our community.
» Yeah, perfect. Okay,
good. >> Thanks, guys. [snorts]
» All right, communications. Else you can share. Uh number four and
number 13. four. I had actually put forward an
emotion on this and uh kind of withdrew it because Orangeville loans
uh passed the motion already. So this would just be a motion of support for
the uh county to undertake in a uh study of uh the advantages and disadvantages
of uh any potential application for a data center. um
just in regard to this consumption of water resources, electricity demands,
municipal servicing, land use, etc. Uh so if we can uh get a letter of support
uh to that motion and uh address it at county.
» Yeah. >> So you'll move motion to support. Is
there second? Okay. Water is important.
» All in favor? >> Okay, perfect. And third 13
uh just uh it'll be the letter from the
solicitor general uh informing us that uh our 2027 calendar year um
our costs will be uh could go up as high as 11% uh compared to 2026 for
servicing. Uh, and I I just think we need to
address or at least, you know, be aware that we're not in control of necessarily
coverage of our costs aside from the contracts we entered into.
» Um, so that's a bit of a sticker shock and uh,
» and it's something to consider if we need an enhancement. We discussed about
an enhancement being on average around $200,000, which is almost 2% of our
budget. Yeah. So, >> oh just just it's just a it's a bit of
an alarming
» number >> information. I was going to say just an
alarming information update from our solicitor general.
» Yeah. [snorts]
» Okay. >> Yep. The highlight. Okay.
» For me. Anything else? Anybody? >> No.
» Okay. A motion then to receive the remaining items.
Sample second by all in favor by
Wagner and all.
All in favor and a mot.
I swear to God, I'm not