[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] Councilman McCarthy. Yeah. Councilman Wareheim. Here. Councilwoman Inzarella. Here. [0:14] We have a very [0:14] late-night agenda here, so I'm aware that there are people here who want to present a plan for downtown [0:20] King's Park, and then we could use the law and leave as you like, and we will go through the [0:25] agenda. So somebody's going to make the presentation. Right up there you have some [0:31] platforms. [0:34] Linda Henninger, [0:38] Anthony Tanji, and James Longo. Please be guarded by the three-minute rule, please, in the presentation. [0:49] Good evening, Supervisor Vacchio and Town Board members. My name is Linda Henninger, and I represent the Kings Park Civic Association. [0:56] The Civic Association, along with the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and Kings Park Community members, is here tonight to present to the Town Board [1:03] the Kings Park Community's downtown vision plan. [1:06] It was a little over a year ago, the Civic Association, the Chamber came together to discuss the need for revitalization of our communities downtown. [1:14] In an effort to facilitate a community-based plan, we hired Vision Long Island, a regional planning organization. [1:20] Immediately thereafter, we met with the leaders of almost every community group in Kings Park to discuss the idea of creating a plan that would reflect the needs and wants of the entire community. [1:30] These groups include Kings Park Central School District, Kings Park Fire Department, [1:36] Fort Salonga Association, San Remo Civic Association, the VFW, [1:41] the American Legion, Kings Park Youth, Kings Park Soccer, [1:44] St. Joseph's COIO, and the Nisquab River State Park Foundation. [1:48] After this, we held two town-wide workshops and a final meeting [1:52] which elicited community ideas, hopes, and horrors [1:55] regarding revitalizing our downtown. [1:57] turn out participation was tremendous. The Civic Association in the Chamber also held several [2:03] smaller meetings throughout the year eliciting input. Additionally, a social media site was [2:08] created which encouraged continued input. We are confident in stating that the document we present [2:13] tonight represents the participation of thousands of community residents. The process was [2:19] transparent, engaging and very positive. I'd now like to introduce Tony Tansy, President [2:25] the Chamber of Commerce to discuss the results of the undertaking. Thank you very much. [2:35] Thank you, Linda. Good evening, Mr. Supervisor, [2:38] member of the Town Board, members of the Town Board. I would like to start out by [2:42] thanking each and every one of you for indulging us this evening and giving us the opportunity [2:46] to present you with this plan. You've all been given the planets actually [2:50] on the table for, and I think some of you already see that. As Linda said, [2:55] this was a grassroots effort that gave everyone in our community [2:58] the chance to be heard and to have their ideas incorporated. [3:02] If there's one thing about our vision process, it taught us that the Kings Park community is very willing to share its opinion. [3:09] Now, while our plan is not official and that it was not produced by any government entity, it does have two key elements. [3:16] One, it had a lot of public engagement, and two, it was prepared by professional planners. [3:22] Now, one of the things this process has shown, without a shadow of a doubt, is that King's Park has tremendous potential. [3:28] However, in order to achieve that potential, King's Park needs sewers. This plan is the first step in helping us get them. [3:35] We also want to be very clear that we're not asking you to do this for us. [3:39] We want to be absolutely clear we are willing to help. [3:43] The entire King's Park community is committed to doing whatever it takes to see that our downtown becomes the downtown that it can be. [3:51] We the Kings Park community respectfully request that you take some time to review it and please [3:56] adopt this plan by town board resolution as a conceptual blueprint for the future of Kings [4:00] Park. I thank you, the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce thanks you, the Kings Park Civic [4:05] Association thanks you, and the Kings Park community as a whole thanks you. Thank you very [4:09] much. Thank you. Thank you. [4:13] The one thing we have Trudy Fitzsimmons who was a representative, [4:16] She's also a resident of Kings Park, but she's a representative from Vision Long Island who created the plan. [4:22] She was just going to go into a couple of the elements so that she can kind of paraphrase it. [4:26] Thank you. [4:32] Please give me your phone name and address so we don't have to. [4:34] Oh, we have it here. [4:35] You got it? [4:36] Okay, great. [4:37] Thank you. [4:38] Thank you very much, and thank you for your attention this evening. [4:41] My name is Trudy Fitzsimons. [4:42] I'm co-chair of Vision Long Island, and I'm a very happy resident of Kings Park. [4:46] Thank you for the opportunity to talk about this plan in October. [4:51] As Linda said, they had a visiting and the community came together and told us what they wanted to see [4:57] and what they hoped for and what might be possible in their view. [5:01] And we took some experts and got together and gave them a plan [5:06] that from something as simple as putting, lighting the streets and further on. [5:15] The action plan was put together based on input from hundreds of residents and businesses and property owners, town and civic and Chamber of Commerce folks. [5:25] In addition to an overall concept, it contains recommendations for improvements in walkability, enhancing character and zoning modifications, and public space improvements. [5:37] The recommendations include short, medium, and long-term strategies. [5:41] The design team who have translated all of the community input into a cohesive plan includes Alyssa Kyle of Vision, David Burrb from DLB Consulting, [5:52] Dean Gowan and Alan Giantesimo and Wendell and Glenn Chirveny from GRCH Architects. [6:01] Vision would also like to thank Linda Heninger and Sean Layman from the Kings Park Civic Association, [6:07] Tony Tansy and Adam Wood from Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and all of the different groups [6:12] who participated. We're very thankful and we like to concentrate on local and have local participation. [6:21] That's where you get the best results. And everyone who wants to see something can be included as best we can. [6:29] So thank you very much for your time and attention and we hope this will go forward. Thank you. [6:35] Thank you. [6:36] Is this plan presented to our planning department, Mr. Tansy? [6:40] We, actually that was one of the things I wanted to bring up was, and I forgot. [6:44] This process also includes the planning department. [6:47] The planning department was... [6:49] Okay. [6:50] And just to keep it a sense of... [6:52] Sorry about that. [6:53] Vision had met with the planning department on two separate occasions [6:56] to make sure that everything that is in this plan does not conflict [6:59] with the master plan that's currently working on it. [7:01] Good. [7:01] Thank you. [7:03] Mr. Long, would you like to be heard? [7:12] Thank you. I'll only take a moment. [7:14] I haven't had an opportunity to read the plan or really discuss it in any detail. [7:19] I had met on occasion with Tony to review some of the items that he was including. [7:27] My one concern that I'd just like to make sure is covered is that if you're going to be soaring the central business zone, [7:35] I wanted to just make sure that that will also include the Pulaski Road from basically [7:42] Comac Road all the way down to Main Street. [7:46] There's several businesses there starting with Speedway in 7-Eleven and Dunkin' Docks. [7:51] We can run through the whole thing. [7:52] And I just encourage the town, if you're going to adopt it, adopt it and be all-inclusive [7:57] of the central business zone. [8:00] Okay. [8:00] Thank you. [8:03] That's it on the vision of the island. Thank you so much for coming. [8:12] We're going to read the agenda now. [8:15] Yes. I told you all here to praise us for the triple-A bond we're in the time to achieve. [8:23] Right now, sir. [8:25] Give [8:31] you a couple of chocolate kisses. [8:33] Yes, thank you. Thank you. [8:36] Work your way. Thank you, Mr. Bucket. [8:39] Thank you. [8:46] Jack, you're going to sit and watch those characters, is that what you said? [8:51] He said that. [8:55] I'm going to go to a fire department meeting once you get it. [8:59] Tommy, can you turn that off? Just that one. [9:03] You getting chilly? [9:09] That's worse. [9:11] Shut it off. You got that one on. [9:14] Thank you. [9:15] There you go. [9:17] Patience is a virtue, Vincent. [9:18] I got it. [9:19] Most of you folks here because of the school board. [9:24] I think they're here for this. [9:28] That's it. [9:29] Okay. [9:32] We'll start with the agenda. [9:35] We have a third reading for the grade one work for Hop-Hop School District, second reading [9:41] for the Rotary Club of Smith Town Growth of the Green, we have a building department [9:45] report which is on file in the town clerk's office for anyone's perusal, [9:55] and an advertisement [9:56] for public hearing. [9:57] The town board to authorize a clerk to advertise for public hearing to be held on Tuesday [10:01] day in Smithtown Town Hall to consider zoning petition 2016A on the town [10:09] ward's own motion to amend conditions of a change of zone petition 9202 to [10:15] increase the maximum floor area of development from 504,000 square feet [10:22] to 520,000 square feet and to increase the generation of wastewater from [10:29] I met some undergallons, so I had some undergallons [10:32] to be all said by a sterilization of a tax map plot. [10:36] Who's here on that BF? [10:38] It's an advertisement. [10:39] Just for the advertisement. [10:41] Councilwoman Inserola? [10:43] Yes. [10:43] Councilwoman Wellheim? [10:44] Yes. [10:45] Councilwoman McCarthy? [10:46] Yes. [10:46] Supervisor Vakia? [10:47] Yes. [10:48] Town Board Worker-Wiser Clerk who advertised for public hearing [10:51] to be held at Town City, Town, Town Hall. [10:56] On the 13th day of December 2016 [10:58] at 2 p.m. to consider proposed amendments to Chapter 322 of the Code of the Town, entitled [11:05] zoning. [11:06] Councilwoman Inzuella? [11:07] Yes. [11:08] Councilwoman Warehouse? [11:09] Yes. [11:10] Councilwoman McCarthy? [11:10] Yes. [11:11] Supervisor Betier? [11:12] Yes. [11:12] Town Board to Authorizer Cloak? [11:14] Town Board of Advocations following bits will be returned to Town Hall on the date [11:19] indicated, bit number 16, one away, articulating 10 of them were used on December 8, 2016 [11:28] has put a capital budget. [11:30] Councilor Minnis? [11:31] Councilor Minnis Zarela? [11:32] Yes. [11:32] Councilor Wareheim? [11:33] Yes. [11:34] Councilor McCarty? [11:35] Yes. [11:35] Supervisor Vecchio? [11:36] Yes. [11:37] Time Board to work the following bids and to authorize purchase of Associated Grouping [11:41] Services, a bid for ten-wheel trucks with dump bodies and plows to gather rally truck [11:46] sales has put a bid opening on October 27th. [11:50] Councilor Minnis Zarela? [11:51] Yes. [11:51] Councilor Wareheim? [11:52] Yes. [11:53] Councilor McCarty? [11:53] Yes. [11:54] Supervisor Vecchio? [11:55] Yes. [11:55] Town Board is to do studying deliberation and subject-directed [11:59] to issue a negative declaration of determination of non-significant in the following matters. [12:04] The application for densely flow rides on Corko's Hill Preserve dated November 7, 2016. [12:11] Councilwoman Linsavala? [12:13] Yes. [12:13] Councilwoman Wareharn? [12:14] Yes. [12:14] Councilwoman McCarthy? [12:15] Yes. [12:15] Supervisor Vecchio? [12:17] Yes. [12:17] town board to approve the minutes of the regular night meeting September 22nd 2016 7 p.m. [12:25] annual animal shelter surplus in kind donations, amended lists of local non-profit organizations [12:31] to receive surplus in kind animal shelter donations, town clerk to issue a parade run [12:37] walk, permit to the High Park School District for 5K Family One, the designation of Empire [12:43] National Bank as an official depository of the town of Smithtown for the tax receiver. [12:50] The sole assessor in the town attorney's office to enter into the stipulations of settlement [12:55] and consent to the entry of orders will regard to various small claims assessment review [12:59] proceedings for the tax year 2016-17, not to exceed 25%, and for the recommendation [13:06] of the sole assessor and town attorney. [13:10] County Attorney or appropriate official to enter into the stabilization of servants or [13:14] agreement and consent to the entry of the order with regard to various tax social aid matters, [13:20] but the attached list for various tax years, but a recommendation to solo assessor in the [13:26] County Attorney. [13:27] The sale of one-density floor rights and sending parcel 800-129-161 to receiving [13:33] 18-possible 800-135-4-10, item G of the agenda, H, Donald P. Musnug, Kathy Cora, Paul Rebano, [13:42] to attend Long Island GFOA seminar, I, Education Specialist, [13:49] and Supervisor Sue Hinton's two-handed [13:50] three-hour seminar, J, the approval of TDFR number PR-16, focus will preserve and transfer [13:57] to density flow rights, K, the Highway Department to purchase four six-wheel dump trucks [14:02] with bodies and three plows from Long Island Freightliner L Highway Department to Purchase [14:08] Utility Tractor in Flare Mowers or Long Island Equipment M Highway Department to Purchase [14:13] Zero Turn Radius Mower from Long Island Equipment and Highway Department to Purchase Brine Generator [14:18] System from Long Island Sanitation Equipment O Highway Department to Purchase 4 Ton Hot [14:23] Ton Asphalt Patcher from Trius Inc. The adoption of Year 43 Community Development [14:29] as proposed by Memo Reina from the Planning Director. [14:32] Q, amend 2016 capital budget for purchase of various equipment [14:36] or the purchase of the Electronic Imaging Service [14:38] from New York State Industries for the Disabled [14:41] and S, cancellation of agreement with Community Energy Inc. [14:45] Councilwoman Insarala? [14:46] Yes. [14:46] Councilwoman Wareheim? [14:47] Yes. [14:48] Councilwoman McQuarty? [14:49] Yes. [14:49] Supervisor Becker? [14:51] Number five, LWRP, town board issue, [14:54] a written consistency determination of chapter 151 [14:56] of the Town Code that application 2016-12 of the Town Code. [15:00] Council Member Smith Town. One Beach Road paving village of Nesquagga is consistent with LWRP [15:04] for reasons stated in the memorandum November 15, 2016. [15:08] Memorandum for the town planning director. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes. [15:11] Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes. [15:14] Supervisor. Yes. Aye, number six, the town board, authorize the acceptance of six A and B. [15:20] Donations in letter of credit. Council Member Nunzovallo. Yes. [15:23] Council Member Wareharn. Yes. Council Member Calati. Yes. [15:26] Yes. [15:27] At number seven, the town board that authorizes the release of the following is for 7A Valley [15:31] National Bank. [15:33] Yes, she has checked. [15:34] Yes. [15:36] Yes. [15:37] Yes. [15:40] Yes. [15:40] Yes. [15:41] Yes. [15:43] Yes. [15:44] Yes. [15:50] Yes. [15:51] Yes. [15:54] Yes. [15:56] At number nine, the town board has approved settlement and following matters for recommendation [15:59] of the town attorney at number nine A for the amount of $1,521.18. [16:05] Yes. [16:05] Councilwoman Zavala. [16:06] Councilwoman Wareheim. [16:07] Yes. [16:08] Councilwoman McCarthy. [16:09] Yes. [16:09] Supervisor. [16:10] Yes. [16:10] At number 10, the town board authorizes the supervisor to execute the following [16:13] on form approved by the town attorney as to pretend A, B, and C in agreement and [16:18] agreement and specialized service agreement. [16:20] Councilwoman Zavala. [16:21] Yes. [16:22] Councilwoman Wareheim. [16:22] Yes. [16:23] Councilor McCarthy. [16:24] Yes. [16:24] Supervisor Veccher. [16:26] Under personnel item number 11, [16:27] the town board to approve the following personnel matters, [16:30] that's for 11 A, B, C, D, E, and F, [16:34] and they are a change of title, [16:36] a part time appointment, part time appointment, [16:38] part time appointment, full time appointment, [16:39] and a full time appointment. [16:40] Other printer agenda items. [16:42] Councilor Winans-Roller. [16:43] Yes. [16:43] Councilor Browner. [16:44] Yes. [16:45] Councilor McCarthy. [16:46] Yes. [16:46] Supervisor Veccher. [16:48] Almost closed a regular meeting [16:50] and the City's Board of Water Commissioners. [16:52] Supervisor Becquieu. [16:54] Councilor McCarty. [16:55] Yes. [16:55] Councilor Warehaan. [16:56] Yes. [16:56] Councilor Momenon-Zarella. [16:57] Yes. [16:58] Pursuant to section 3312-12, subsection B of Article 4 of Chapter 312, 312 of the code of the town, [17:07] and in accordance with the increase by the Suffolk County Water Authority of the race, [17:12] which it charges to the Smith County Water District and to the St. James Water District [17:16] that effective January 1, 2017, the water rates in the Smithtown Water District and the same change [17:23] water district will be increased to 208 per 1,000 gallons from the existing rate of 1.976. [17:32] Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes. [17:34] Councilor Weiharm? Yes. [17:35] Councilor McCarty? Yes. [17:36] Supervisor Vecchia? Almost to close the water board meeting. [17:40] Supervisor Vecchia? Yes. [17:41] Councilor McCarty? Yes. [17:43] Councilor McMillan-Zovella? Yes. [17:58] I was hoping I would be first, but I just wanted to say thank you for allowing me to [18:02] speak. [18:03] I'm just here to find out about the Selden New York Avenue School and ask this of it. [18:10] Okay, very good question. [18:13] The school district is very non-transparent. [18:16] Oh, and I want to thank you for your lovely quote. [18:19] Oh, thank you. [18:21] So as of now, no application has been filed. [18:25] No plans have been filed with the planning department. [18:28] And if and when they are, the town will hold a public hearing. [18:32] Most likely it's a senior center to accommodate the crowd. [18:36] And then people will be heard there for or against. [18:39] And it's very important that you do come to that meeting to express your support or non-support. [18:46] and should the application require an environmental impact statement, [18:53] all those statements will be processed through that plan. [18:58] Okay, now who pays for all that? [19:00] Like for all the environmental services? [19:02] The town? [19:02] No, the applicant. [19:04] Wonderful. [19:05] The town collects fees for the processing of the application. [19:09] Okay, but they have to do all the service and all that. [19:11] So if all of you are interested in that issue, [19:13] You can observe the signs that will go up posting the date and time of the hearing. [19:19] Thank you. [19:19] Okay. [19:20] Thank you very much. [19:24] Anthony, I'm not reading the words very well. [19:27] Anthony Malmo? [19:28] Yeah, literally. [19:30] Okay, thank you. [19:32] Okay. [19:34] Same thing? [19:35] No. [19:36] Okay, wishing to be heard. [19:39] Matt Hetler. [20:02] Good evening. [20:04] Supervisor Becquiao, the Town Council. [20:06] My name is Matt Heller, Six Stanley Plays, [20:09] Hopog, New York, H-E-T-T-L-E-R. [20:11] I'm joined with my wife Debbie, [20:13] we're residents for 22 years on Stanley Place. [20:17] I'm here tonight to talk to you about a petition [20:19] that was filed with the town on behalf of the residents [20:22] of Stanley Place and the surrounding community [20:25] about no parking signs that were installed [20:28] on our block at the end of August. [20:33] And I have the petitions here. [20:35] I actually submitted them to the town on October 11th, but I have copies for every one of you. [20:40] Would you like to have them? [20:42] Welcome to the clerk, please. [20:46] What is the issue? [20:48] Well, the real issue is that I came home the end of August. [20:53] There were markouts in the street. [20:54] I lived and I'm joined by a number of my neighbors here. [21:02] Yeah, we're all here together. So the bottom line is this, thank you. I came home late [21:11] August and much of my surprise, I found markouts in the street. Two feet from my driveway, I [21:18] have a picture of it, and I live between the residential park entrance to Pinecone Park [21:27] So here is a picture of the street. I don't know if you can really see it, but there was a white mark out. [21:33] Sure, there's a white mark out that is two feet from my driveway, my apron. [21:37] So I went down to the traffic department and I inquired as to what these white markouts were. [21:44] And I was told that on August 9th, the board approved no parking signs without our knowledge. [21:51] Again, two feet from the apron of my driveway, and no one notified me. [21:57] And no one notified every single person on Stanley Place, which I find offensive. [22:04] So that's the issue. [22:07] And so at the end of the day, I was told that we have no position whatsoever [22:13] because it was already approved by the town so we couldn't stop the process. [22:17] There was one gentleman in the traffic department that was extremely nice, and he was very sympathetic. [22:23] And what he said to me was, well, let me see what I can do to at least give you your parking spot at the end of your driveway. [22:29] Well, what he did, although it was very admirable, is he shifted the signs, if you can see it. [22:36] One sign is now located at the entrance of the pathway to the park, which I think is dangerous if kids combine down on a bike. [22:44] And what they did is they shifted the sign across onto my neighbor's property. [22:50] These are an eyesore to the block. They shouldn't be there. [22:53] So now the question... [22:54] Was the reason I remember this letter or the petition that was sent, [23:00] the reason that the sign was in school was to allow the occupant of the residents to exit her driveway? [23:09] Yes. [23:09] Is that the reason? [23:10] Yeah. [23:10] Okay. [23:11] So first and foremost... [23:13] You're out of time. I took your time. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. And maybe collectively we can add their time [23:20] So what I like you can't do that. All right [23:23] Can I show you a 10-second video? Yes, this is just to address that claim that the resident can't get out of their driveway [23:30] I [23:36] don't know if you can really see it [23:38] Not so good from now [23:40] This is her car which is 35 years old [23:44] She backs out. She has no issue getting out of her driveway [23:49] Okay. She doesn't come across the street. Okay. And so on. [23:54] Further, while that is stated November 1st, I can tell you and every resident here can tell you that this resident across the street leaves her house on average three to four times a month. [24:07] Her claim to the traffic department was that she was a prisoner in her own home. Okay. [24:11] So, wait, I just want to say. So that was misleading. So the town basically had a deal [24:17] with one resident, never notified the residents, and that's why we're here tonight. [24:22] Okay. Well, let me just explain the process. All these things that we read tonight are submitted by department heads. [24:30] Each of us review what the application or the resolution is before we're going to vote on it. [24:37] When we did a resolution to put up a parking sign or a stop sign, we read that and we kind [24:44] of agree with it because it's recommended by the traffic department. [24:49] We're none of us are traffic experts. [24:51] So we'll make inquiry. [24:52] As a result of the meeting here, we'll talk to the traffic department. [24:56] With all due respect, that already happened with Councilwoman Insorello. [25:00] She went and met with them and I don't need to speak on your behalf. [25:03] But here's the real kicker. [25:05] We were told that by the traffic director that he is not budging on it [25:10] because the person says that she can't get out of her driveway. [25:14] I just proved to you that she can. [25:16] I'm telling you that she doesn't leave her house for three or four times a month. [25:20] On top of that, she harasses the people on the block. [25:22] Let me ask you a question, Mr. Heather. [25:25] Getting out of your driveway three or four times a month could still cause an accident. Possible? [25:30] Not just for two years. [25:31] Not 50 years. Absolutely not. [25:34] All right. Good enough. Come on. All right. We'll take it up with the traffic. [25:41] But that that already happened. So we'll take it up again. [25:45] We're not going to resolve it here tonight. [25:51] Anthony, April, [25:57] he can speak this afternoon. He got three minutes. [26:03] Good evening. Um, [26:04] I agree with everything that the Mr. [26:07] Hathaway, Mrs. Attler said. Um, one thing I want to add, um, [26:10] you did bring up that it could be a safety issue those three or four times [26:13] that she would pull out of her driveway. [26:14] I feel in community of that area feels that it's a safety concern because now [26:18] cars are forced to park park on the north side and there's a bend in Stanley [26:23] Place. I have a picture here that I'll submit. So there's a bend in that road, so now anybody coming [26:29] east or west on Stanley Place is a tremendous wine spot. So now coming around that bend [26:37] you cannot see what's coming from the other side of Stanley Place. So I feel [26:41] and the community members feel that the opinion of one was taken and the safety of the community, [26:46] I think. [26:47] Who's the liaison to the traffic department on a board? [26:50] You are? [26:51] Okay. [26:52] Well, you'll discuss it next day or toward you and the traffic director and me. [26:58] Okay? [26:58] Okay. [26:59] Thank you. [26:59] Thank you. [27:01] Christopher Susner? [27:05] Speaking of the same point. [27:06] Same point. [27:07] Okay. [27:07] Good. [27:08] Thank you. [27:17] You live on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. My name is Christopher Duffner. I live at 18 [27:22] Sandra Drive in Hopon. Right on the corner of Stanley and Sandra. The corner of my property [27:27] is about 50 or 60 feet from where these signs were placed. My children have been, my children [27:32] use the sidewalk to enter that park. It's a pedestrian entryway. Parking in front of [27:40] that pedestrian entryway has nothing whatsoever to do with being able to get in or out of the park. [27:45] The precedent that's being set here is that anyone who feels they can't back out of their driveway [27:49] safely can have signs put up across the street from their driveway prohibiting parking. [27:55] That's the dangerous precedent that's being set here. [27:59] A couple of months ago, I commented to my wife when we went for a neighborhood that was with much smaller roads than ours, how lucky you were to have such wide roadways. [28:07] I have a 20-foot boat trailer that I pulled in and out of my driveway for many years without any problem. [28:14] Saying I had a pop-up trailer that I had 20 feet at the same thing. [28:17] I never had a problem backing that inner-out of my driveway. [28:20] But again, the precedent that's being set here has nothing to do with this parking lot. [28:23] What is the issue with the people who forced the park around the corner because of that sign? [28:31] Is that the issue? [28:32] The issue is, why is there no parking sign there all of a sudden after 40 years? [28:37] Because one person claims they have a problem backing out of their driveway. [28:44] Well, how does that sign offend you? That's my question. [28:52] What it's a precedent that's been set, there's a similar entryway to the park on Sheila Drive. [28:58] There are no parking signs there. [29:00] This is because one person said they can't back out of the driveway. [29:03] Okay. [29:04] I think that's a dangerous precedent. [29:08] Well, it's not a precedent. [29:09] That's generally. [29:11] Okay. [29:11] We'll look into it. [29:12] Thank you. [29:13] Thank you. [29:23] John Zolo, you can speak, well you didn't sign in, that's why I don't, but no I don't [29:33] have it. [29:33] What did you mean? [29:36] Okay, it's here. [29:37] It's here. [29:38] Mr. Sonsari, please come up. [29:41] Sorry, Mrs. Ola. [29:52] No, sir, public hearing is a town hall. [29:55] Anybody can speak. [29:56] All right, thank you, and congratulations for your triple-A bond radio. [30:01] My wife and I moved into Smithtown in July of 1967 on to Stanley Place. It was a dirt road. There were no streets. There were no curbs. There was no park. There were just trees. [30:13] We were naive enough to believe a salesperson from Hillside Terrace that it was a bird sanctuary. [30:19] And around 1970, when the bulldozers came to knock down the trees and build a park from Mr. Fitzpatrick, [30:25] who was giving it to the Hop-Hop Little League and where Smithtown students couldn't play [30:29] because they didn't belong to Hop-Hop, yet this park was surrounded by Smithtown students [30:34] who couldn't play baseball in the Hop-Hop Little League because they lived in Smithtown. [30:39] Now you know the whole story. [30:40] Sure. [30:41] I mean, when we moved in, you were probably pounding a beat in the city. [30:44] I don't know what that... [30:45] Well, maybe you were a teenager. [30:46] Also, I think too much. [30:47] All right. [30:49] So anyway, the curves went in, the park was developed and there were no fences [30:53] and thanks to Mr. Valentine and under your guidance I think we had the code [30:56] enforcement and we got rid of a lot of junk that was hanging out in the park [31:00] and we put fences up and we put you know the park was brought under control and [31:05] now I have in front of my house and I'll show you a picture because of the [31:08] neighbor across the street a part no parking sign in front of my house that was [31:12] greeted to me when I came home from the hospital after having major [31:15] surgery it's right it's in front of my house okay it's not in the front of [31:19] Park entrance. This is in front of my house. So I'll submit that picture. Thank you [31:28] for coming in. [31:29] We would give a note on this. I have pictures of the malls where the park signs were supposed to be, [31:37] and you will see that they were not put where the traffic department said they were supposed to be. [31:45] They were shifting. They were shifting to accommodate somebody who said they couldn't back out of their drive-in. [31:50] Our streets are very wide. As Chris said, you could back a boat trailer out of there. [31:54] So here's the marks that were. OK, but also I just want to make a point. [32:00] All of these resolutions we read tonight, some of them are paying taxes for some and you're not. [32:07] They are submitted by department heads or expert in their fields. [32:11] So when the traffic director was a traffic engineer, [32:14] here, submits a resolution to implement a control, a traffic control. We take it that [32:20] he is an expert in the field. We don't go out and look at it. So now, if you're here, [32:26] we'll take it up with him and see what we can do. [32:29] Well, by the way, here's a picture of the driveway in question of the person who said [32:32] they can't bag a day's driveway. You could make a U-turn in here with a trailer. [32:36] Okay. Fair enough. [32:37] Okay. [32:37] Thank you so much. Mr. Zola. Thank you. [32:47] That's a pretty big drop. [32:51] Oh, it came from somewhere. [32:54] We need the Miss Suvaz members of the town board. [32:57] My name is John Zola, 169 Hickory Lane, Smith Town. [33:01] Just first of all, I guess what happens here with the street sign is it's nice to know that people come here and have their voices heard. [33:08] That's a good thing. And that's what democracy and government is about. [33:12] But I wanted to applaud the Kings Park Chamber to come forward with a conceptual plan for the Kings Park community. [33:19] And I think the town board has an opportunity to run with that and work with the Kings Park community [33:23] and also bring in the Smith Town downtown and work with their vision to revitalize the downtowns in Kings Park and Smith Town. [33:33] Recently, the Newsday had an article that talked about the Smithtown School District [33:39] selling their property for 13 acres, and the flip side of that Newsday article was a story [33:44] about the North Port getting a $2 million fund to do sewers for the Village of North [33:50] Port. [33:50] And I thought it was interesting to jump to the position. [33:52] Here you have a Smithtown who has a downtown, people have been crying out for sewers in [33:56] Smithtown and in Kings Park, and for some action and proactivity on the part of [34:02] of Smithtown, which really hasn't happened, and Northport Village is getting funding just [34:06] like Patchouli has in Bayshore. [34:09] I think you need to open up a dialogue with the Kings Park Chamber, the Smithtown Chamber, [34:14] and while you have the color piece of property across the street, you also have the Smithtown [34:19] School property. [34:20] Don't let it be an opportunity lost for the town of Smithtown to come with a plan [34:24] that would bring all those together and hopefully revitalize and rejuvenate our [34:28] downtown. [34:28] town. Mark Van Cien just happens to be here, who's come up with numerous plans and ideas [34:33] conceptual to work to develop and bring our town into the 21st century. So I think this [34:40] board needs to be proactive. Maybe you should consider having more work sessions where you [34:47] have the plan director, the apartment environment and waterways person, the building director [34:52] and the town board sit and talk about what the vision is for this town. Don't means [34:57] law is nice, it gives opportunities to people to see what goes on in government. [35:03] My just looking grief for there hasn't been a work session in the town of Smithtown, [35:06] an open work session in about four months. [35:09] A lot of government is going on now behind closed doors. [35:12] So bring it out to the people, let them know what's going on, let them be heard. [35:15] Work for the future of the town of Smithtown. [35:17] And I think Tony Tansy and the Kings Park Chamber should be applauded for taking that step. [35:21] Don't let that be a wasted step. [35:23] Thank you. [35:23] Is that in order? [35:24] It's a request, I think it's good for the town. [35:26] I like it in the form of a request. [35:30] Thank you. [35:33] Victoria Fjordstein? [35:47] This is a request. [35:50] I represent a group of Smithtown residents who are interested in creating an area for the dogs to run behind the dog shelter. [36:00] Our group believes this is so important that we're willing to fund the entire thing and raise the money. [36:06] We started this discussion with Sue Hanson, probably February. [36:12] And then I spoke to Councilwoman Insorello, and thank you for that. [36:17] You directed me in the right spot. You directed me to the liaison. [36:21] Councilwoman Noak. We met with Councilwoman Noak in May. [36:26] And just recently, Councilman Wilhelm, thank you very much. [36:30] I discussed this with you on the phone. [36:33] What we're trying to do is that there's an area behind the shelter. [36:36] I'm pretty sure you know it, but I do, although I've walked through it many times. [36:40] It's about 100 by 100, and we want to buy the fencing and whatever other money it costs [36:46] there is to create this area for the dogs. [36:50] I know, if I may call you Lisa, I know you visited the shelter, [36:54] and you're very familiar with it, and you know the size of the pens. [36:57] And I know the age of the place and that the cement there is really old and when they have to wash it every morning [37:03] it doesn't dry for a very long time. [37:05] And these dogs are basically, some of these dogs have been, one of these dogs has been there for four years. [37:10] Some of these dogs, too, three years. [37:13] So they may get walked on a leash. [37:16] You know, they may go out and out to a pen for a little bit. [37:19] But they really, you know, they're not our dogs at home that have the cozy life and they have their backyard [37:24] and they get walked whenever it's appropriate or an opportunity for them. [37:30] This is a humane issue to us. [37:33] And I know that there's been some discussions about including this in the renovations. [37:39] But we're here to respectfully request that since we're willing to do this work as Smidtown residents raise this money, [37:48] that we do this now because when the renovations happen, [37:54] as I've been in the public arena my entire career, [37:57] I know that there are things that happen to well-intentioned promises, [38:01] things that happen because of things that are more important suddenly [38:04] or the agenda switches. [38:06] And these thoughts really shouldn't have to wait anyway, [38:08] even if this promise does happen to include it in the renovations. [38:13] They need this now. [38:14] And if we have residents who are willing to go beat the bushes [38:17] for every dime, we respectfully, you know, ask you. [38:22] You've met with Mrs. Nolik? [38:24] Yes, in May. [38:25] And what was the result of that conversation? [38:28] At the time, we believed that there was a possibility of getting the scrubby, [38:33] I call it the scrubby brush area, right behind the thing, fenced in. [38:37] But I haven't heard anything since then. [38:38] Well, is there another question that that might interfere with the fire, [38:43] Is there a fire matter track with the fireman practice? [38:48] No, sir, it's not. [38:50] Okay. [38:51] No, we totally would not want to interfere with that area. [38:54] We're looking for it, okay? [38:56] May I ask one question? [38:57] Sure. [38:58] Since we've kind of impatient, we feel like we're kind of spinning our wheels. [39:01] What happens? [39:02] Do we need to do a petition? [39:04] No, no, no. [39:05] We'll make note of it. [39:06] We'll take it up with Mrs. Nowick and Sue Hanson. [39:10] And then somebody will get back to us? [39:11] Well, you could call me in a week or two. [39:15] I'll call you in a week or two. Thank you very much. [39:18] Okay, that concludes everybody who wants to speak. [39:21] So I'll move to close the meeting. [39:23] Thank you. [39:24] Supervisor Beck, yes? [39:25] Councilman McCartney? [39:26] Yes. [39:26] Councilman Wareheim? [39:27] Yes. [39:28] Councilwoman Zarella? [39:29] Yes. [39:30] Thank you all.