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[0:00] I'm sorry, supervisor. Good man. Yeah, quite the wrong. Yeah, I met, I met Lubin. His grandson and my son's track me to Southampton High School.
[0:10] When I was talking to him, I realized at that time, as he was giving his life history a little bit.
[0:16] I'm looking at the man who I thought was about 70 years old. He was 95.
[0:20] Yes, that's a time.
[0:21] And that was, and I saw I met the track needs for another couple of years at this grandson
[0:25] Sebastian.
[0:26] We'd run it with a great manner too, and just a great, just a great young being, which
[0:32] I have been able to see him more recently, because he was really inspiring person.
[0:37] I see.
[0:38] Well, let's do, we haven't done the role call, right?
[0:43] So let's start there.
[0:45] Madam Clerk, would you please call the role?
[0:48] Supervisor Schneigermill?
[0:49] President, Councilwoman McNamara, President, Councilwoman Morechelle, President,
[0:56] moving in, here, and I do see Ryan on the Zoom meeting. I know Ryan is going to update
[1:08] us on Thursday. Ryan, are you here to update us today as well?
[1:16] We have a fairly long meeting so I would say let's let's do the update Thursday.
[1:23] I mean if there's one or two things you want to do right now to bring to attention.
[1:27] I know there was a decision over turning the state mass mandate.
[1:32] I imagine that's going to get reimposed but.
[1:36] No, the numbers are trending down.
[1:39] The mask mandate was suspended by the New York State Supreme Court yesterday afternoon.
[1:46] The state has already announced publicly that they intend to appeal that decision by the
[1:52] NSW County New York State Supreme Court.
[1:55] So we'll stay tuned.
[1:57] We haven't taken any actions to amend our policies or anything like that at this point because
[2:02] we do expect that they'll be a little bit of back and forth.
[2:04] I can update everybody on Thursday though.
[2:07] Okay. We appreciate that.
[2:08] All right. Thank you, Ryan.
[2:11] All right. So the first item is the minutes from the regular town board meeting of January 11th, 2022.
[2:20] I'd like to make a motion to prove those minutes.
[2:23] That good.
[2:23] I can did by Councilman Bovier, all in favor.
[2:27] All right.
[2:28] Okay. The minutes are approved.
[2:30] Let's move on to communications.
[2:31] Madam clerk, would you please read the communications?
[2:33] The following communications have been received in my office at the Town Clerk.
[2:38] We have received public notices from the specific county department of economic development,
[2:43] regarding county, shelf-ish, up-the-pulture lease program for 2022 lease application cycle.
[2:52] There's an informational meeting taken place February 3rd at 60 by Zoom.
[2:57] of East Hampton Public Hearing notices, Village of Side Carber, Local Law Adoptions, New York State
[3:04] Liquor License, 30-day advanced notice to municipality from the listed entity, and financial
[3:10] disclosure of statement from the listed individual, letters, e-mails and land use applications
[3:16] have been received regarding the following, ban on gas-powered leafflowers, change of zone
[3:22] petition entitled, NRP Group LLC, Quiet on CFF Acquisition of 18 Piconic Road, Shinnacock Hills,
[3:32] proposed changes to CPI, MUPDD, Hampton Bayes, proposed telecommunications tower and
[3:38] planters to a C-Matter of Bay crest Avenue, Marina. So any board of appeals applications
[3:44] have followed our as follows, 9-11 Clanders Road, LLC, Atlantic Gulf Club of Svetl-Hull Road
[3:54] Bridge Hampton and a property at Penny Lane in Hampton Bayes. The following bit openings
[4:00] took place on January 12th for Banners and Sines on January 19th for ammunition for police department
[4:09] in base of vegetative control and removal, and street sweeper parts, butter, and rear
[4:15] rooms.
[4:16] On January 20th and R.C. was open for South for commuter connections, and I could
[4:23] lose the communications for this meeting's agenda.
[4:25] Thank you, Madam Clerk.
[4:27] All right.
[4:27] There were two resolutions.
[4:28] I'd like to add to our agenda, there was a supervisor.
[4:33] If we could, just for the Board's out of occasion, item number two on the communications
[4:38] with the town of East Hampton. That refers to an affordable housing project that is less
[4:44] than a mile east of the town boarders that is being presumably being done with the Sag Harbor housing
[4:51] trust. And that is, I believe, Germaine, the housing trust got $2.4 million from both of the
[4:59] factory, which is actually in the town of South Hampton. So this is something that is just off,
[5:04] this is a project that maybe just off of our borders to the east. Thank you.
[5:11] Do you know how many units of housing they're proposing?
[5:14] Well, they're I don't believe they're at that stage yet.
[5:18] Could you try to find out what the proposal is? So this is near Poxobog area?
[5:25] Yes. No, it's it's one-fourteen just to the east of the the village of
[5:32] a mile away from the division straight this Southampton town border.
[5:39] It's a church. Yeah, I will. I'll keep
[5:44] the board updated on the problems of this and there having public hearings just to propose
[5:52] zoning changes for the property to again, presumably have this project go forward.
[5:58] Okay, I appreciate it.
[6:01] Sounds right.
[6:02] All right.
[6:02] So what I'd like to do is there are two resolutions that I'd like to add to our agenda.
[6:10] The first one is 39, 4, 23, which is the second warrant for the year and the second one,
[6:16] 39, 4, 37 is for the canoe place in Canal and Eastern Properties, Maritime PDD, Hampton
[6:25] based the coordinate secret for unlisted action to a
[6:29] mental and code chapter 330-248-5.
[6:35] Section 3 and title permitted uses subjection B and title
[6:39] canal property first or two to add subsections A, A, B, C and
[6:44] a men's section 7 and title conditions, subsection 7 and 12.
[6:51] And we'll try to get Janis sure on to explain this later in our meeting, but this is I think this is a coordination of secret for the project.
[7:06] It'll keep things moving along. So I'll make a motion to walk those two resolutions on. Do I have a second?
[7:15] Second of my councilman Markel all in favor. Hi. We need four out of five. We had five out of five. So those are two resolutions will become part of our agenda. All right. So next up is public.
[7:32] And now we have two scheduled for today. So I'll ask our clerks, Sunday Suremire, to read the first public hearing notice.
[7:41] Only hearing number one, to consider a medding town code, the chapter 312 vehicles and traffic, article 8, stopping prohibited in designated locations to enact no stopping regulations on a summer field lane watermel.
[7:56] Okay, I don't know who is presenting this.
[8:00] Charles, is there somebody trying to get in to present this?
[8:04] I'm trying to find out.
[8:06] Got a couple of years.
[8:09] Very good.
[8:16] Yeah, if I could start off,
[8:18] Sure.
[8:19] This is a continuation of a request to Tom Nele prior to his requirement.
[8:23] It's the cul-de-sac at the end of summer,
[8:25] summer field, Lane in Watermel.
[8:28] It's a very small and narrow cul-de-sac.
[8:30] They're requesting no stopping signs, they want to make sure that the traffic flows through the cul-de-sackel for regular traffic
[8:37] as it's a long road. Most people turn around on it and also to keep it free for emergency vehicles.
[8:44] So Barry Gordon has been the contact on that. I don't know if he has any additional
[8:49] So I show or presentation he'd like to make on that.
[8:53] No, Barry.
[8:54] Well, we also were about Tom Houghton.
[8:55] Can we let Tom Houghton in Charles?
[8:57] I'm trying to.
[8:59] Oh, here he is.
[8:59] He's coming up.
[9:02] All right.
[9:02] And in Barry, you are a resident in that area?
[9:06] Well, I guess supervisor.
[9:09] I'm a permanent resident as a matter of fact.
[9:11] All right.
[9:12] So let's, let's hear from the acting town engineer first then.
[9:16] And then we'll, we'll get you on Barry.
[9:18] Great.
[9:18] Thank you.
[9:19] I'm on now.
[9:21] Thank you, Barry.
[9:23] So the proposal is to provide no stopping signs within the cold of sack itself.
[9:31] This would prevent any vehicles from parking there throughout the quarter of the day, whether
[9:35] they're landscaping vehicles, offloading dumpsters, or we're just parking there as part
[9:41] of construction on a house or anything like that.
[9:43] We keep the cold of sack open, it would stop any vehicles from having to melt the curb
[9:48] the cold attack and just showing any vegetation within that area in order to continue around
[9:54] and it will also keep traffic flowing smoothly from there. It's a dead end street so there is no
[10:15] I'll try one second for a few seconds.
[10:19] So this is the first time hearing a proposal for a, basically no stopping, no standing designation on a street.
[10:32] All right, Charles, we can share my screen now.
[10:34] I'm going to request it.
[10:48] So we saw it for a second.
[10:50] Okay.
[10:50] Here we go, Jay.
[10:53] So it's summer field lane.
[10:54] It's in the handwind of water mill.
[10:56] It's off of me Cox Road.
[10:58] There's currently a cold attack at the northern end here.
[11:02] We can see vegetation within the curb area of the cold attack here.
[11:06] The proposal would be to limit stopping standing or parking,
[11:11] starting at the radius of the mouth of the cold attack,
[11:13] continuing around and ending through here.
[11:16] We're not asking for it on any of the street itself,
[11:21] the proper street just within the cold attack area.
[11:30] Why not just the typical no parking sign?
[11:32] Why no parking, no stopping?
[11:36] Well, no parking would be for parking throughout the day.
[11:39] Stopping, I believe there's a specific period of time
[11:42] if you're a lot of stop at the vehicle.
[11:44] It was proposed by the community for the tighter restriction on that.
[11:50] Just because there are a number of vehicles traveling through throughout the day
[11:55] and having, having that restriction allows us to, of course, to get a lot of static on the one.
[12:07] When the no parking stop just solve the same issue without, you know, standing or no stopping.
[12:18] It's the tighter restriction that would help to stop your only fault, the definitions for all three of those.
[12:25] And the issue here, I guess we'll hear from batteries, what that you can't get around the coldest act,
[12:29] There's people far there, there's folks on load there.
[12:48] There you go.
[12:55] I'll just go over the signs real quick.
[12:57] There's no parking signs.
[12:59] Basically, a lot of people to temporarily load or unload passengers or groceries.
[13:04] No standing signs.
[13:06] Apply to unloading and loading people only.
[13:08] Not merchandise.
[13:09] And then no stopping signs are the strictest.
[13:12] I mean that you won't stop at all throughout that cold attack.
[13:18] So someone was going to be pulling up the house to let somebody out, they should pull into the driveway instead of stopping in the street.
[13:32] As if in the problem,
[13:36] right now there's no regulation at all, so you can park there, right?
[13:41] Yeah, I want to jump right before you can park here now.
[13:44] So they want to go right from parking anytime.
[13:48] I'm probably not at night because it accounts restrictions on an overnight parking.
[13:54] But they want to go from unrestricted to the public satisfaction.
[14:06] All right.
[14:07] I don't want to see getting a lot of static.
[14:09] Maybe we can hear from Larry.
[14:11] Tom, I do have a question before we get to Larry.
[14:16] Thank you, supervisor.
[14:18] There are, I think, three or four houses on flag lots off of the end of the cul-de-sac.
[14:26] And I'm looking at the letters, and if memory serves correctly, we've got a letter from one of those owners.
[14:32] Are those owners of those flag lots in favor of this?
[14:40] and I guess Barry could talk about that as well.
[14:43] Yeah, it's one, two, three, four houses
[14:48] that are serviced off of that flag,
[14:50] going to that common driveway for the flaglons.
[14:53] I'll check to see which houses put Barry
[14:55] off the top of your head, you'd be able to respond to that.
[14:58] I appreciate it.
[15:00] I could probably put together what is happening here, and I saw where Mr. Michigan, where he lives, very lives, but I've got, if you would be very pleased.
[15:16] Am I able to talk about this now, sir?
[15:19] Yeah, it's good, very.
[15:20] Oh, great. Okay.
[15:23] Can I share my screen as well for the council?
[15:30] You may.
[15:32] You may.
[15:34] You may.
[15:34] Okay.
[15:35] Is that for you?
[15:37] Are you representing a harmonious association or reduce yourself?
[15:42] Just myself, sir.
[15:43] Okay.
[15:44] Typically, we allow three minutes, but we'll, we'll, let's go ahead and we'll, we'll deal.
[15:50] Well, okay, fine.
[15:52] I did want to say that my permanent residences,
[15:56] here on Summerfield Lane in Watermel and I wanted to thank Councilman Mark Health for his work in preparing and presenting this no resolution for no stopping signs today.
[16:09] When I first moved out here in 1989, Summerfield Lane was just a very sleepy out of the way country road and if we saw a two or three cars or trucks in a day it was a lot and that was even in the summer in the winter it was like two or three a week.
[16:24] Now clearly things have changed dramatically since then.
[16:30] We can all live with the progress in the fact that lots of people want to be out here,
[16:34] but the issue is we need to have guidelines to both residential and commercial traffic to maintain our roads both functionally and aesthetically.
[16:44] In this case, of course, I'm referring to the problem of keeping our cul-de-sac area.
[16:47] free of cars or trucks or even objects like dumpsters so that traffic can easily move through
[16:54] at all times. Anytime you have construction or delivery or emergency vehicles that come to the
[17:02] end of the street, they obviously need to be able to turn around using the full perimeter of the circle.
[17:09] Anything park there can make that difficult and clearly in the case of the large trucks that we have
[17:15] constantly impossible.
[17:18] So as you know, we would to address the problem of what we're asking is to place three
[17:25] no stopping signs to at the entrance to the circle and one at the north side as you
[17:32] see on the map.
[17:33] And the purpose of course is to keep everything that we could be parked there just outside
[17:40] to facilitate the traffic flow.
[17:45] Now, we get constant traffic throughout the day now
[17:51] with all the construction going on.
[17:55] And I'm glad the issue of no parking and no standing
[18:00] and no stopping has been brought up.
[18:04] Because of the fact that no standing and no parking allowed
[18:08] for a kind of a vague sense of how long cars can park in there.
[18:14] I can assure you that when construction vehicles in the light come up,
[18:18] if cars are parked there, they don't want to wait.
[18:24] And so they'll do whatever they can to try to get around.
[18:28] So we feel the residents that have signed the petition to the town,
[18:34] feel that no stopping signs are the correct
[18:37] regulation to be enforced in the cul-de-sac.
[18:42] And I do have pictures, I don't know if the council, I believe.
[18:47] I submitted to the town clerk's office a document last week
[18:53] that was to be given to all the town council members,
[18:57] showing exactly what it has been going on in terms of parking
[19:01] and items being deposited to the cul-de-sac.
[19:05] May I ask if the Council has received that document?
[19:12] But we have, we have, okay, we have it in the letters and the pictures in the dumpster.
[19:18] Yeah, exactly, exactly.
[19:20] It's pretty self-explanatory, and this goes on all the time.
[19:26] When we have large affairs, which tend to be large out here,
[19:32] We've had one that went on for four days and we had
[19:35] showford cars parked completely around the cold
[19:39] sack up and down the street.
[19:42] And my understanding if it's no parking,
[19:45] they can stay there.
[19:47] Okay, as long as they're in proximity to the vehicle,
[19:52] because they're depositing or leaving, leaving our passengers.
[19:56] In fact, we had the police come and they told us
[19:59] that under the current regulations they could say they're all day, this would be a disaster given
[20:07] the amount to traffic we now have.
[20:09] So.
[20:10] Let me just make a point on that if you excuse me for a second.
[20:13] So the no parking, you cannot leave the vehicle unattended, current parking regulations
[20:18] mean that you can leave that vehicle there all day, but no parking signs, one in the vehicle
[20:22] must remain attended, no parking, no standing or very similar in that one of the passengers
[20:29] one is merchandise. No stopping really is the difference in this case. Exactly. Exactly.
[20:37] Barry, where is your home located? Is it on the coldest side? Yes, it's as you would drive north
[20:45] toward the toward the coldest side. I'm on the right hand side. My home is directly facing the coldest
[20:56] You might be taking away any parking on the cul-de-sac or you're going to be pushing cars that are visiting those homes around the cul-de-sac in front of other people's homes?
[21:10] Well, if there's no parking in the cul-de-sac then they would have to park just outside of the circle.
[21:16] And my sense is, of course, my house is right on the circle.
[21:21] It's never been an issue to have cars parked in front of my house out of the circle area.
[21:28] I would have, I believe, Mr.
[21:33] directly across the street there is Mr. John Foltz.
[21:38] That's where you just highlighted. He approved of this regulation or this request.
[21:45] Mr. Steebier just north, that would be 154.
[21:53] There you go.
[21:55] Okay. Yeah, that was from our document.
[21:58] Just to illustrate this document, it was previously submitted.
[22:01] Everyone who is in a rectangle has submitted a petition.
[22:04] The two in the oblique have not responded.
[22:10] I'd like to comment on that specifically, Mr. Githlitz.
[22:14] I contacted him several times, and he wrote back to me that he was simply too busy to review the request.
[22:24] What's his address?
[22:26] Oh, that's the 158.
[22:30] Okay, and what about the 131 also in the Oval? Yes. Mr. Adams came, they moved here about a year and a half ago, and he said that he wanted to think about it, and that's the way he left it. Right. That's what he wrote to me.
[22:49] They're one of the properties that could get more cars parked in front, potentially, potentially.
[22:56] People are going to park beyond the limits of the no stopping area.
[23:04] I've been here six years.
[23:06] I've never seen a request for no stopping.
[23:08] No parking, yes, but not for no stopping.
[23:13] So this is somewhat unusual.
[23:18] I mean, I would prefer no parking only because all of the deliveries that take place for all of these homes are now going to be in front of probably Mr. Adams property doesn't read it.
[23:33] Well, as well as everyone's landscaping truck and trailers and all that stuff too.
[23:39] Right. I don't know if they can get down those flag walks.
[23:42] the, you know, the Amazon trucks or UPS trucks or, well, I could answer that. They're here
[23:50] all the time. And even the biggest trucks get right up into the call defect, into the, into the
[23:57] flaglots, every single house has gotten deliveries directly. They all drive up there, the UPS trucks,
[24:06] you know, they used to stop in the circle once in a while, but then they realized they have no
[24:11] problem getting up there. So it's not an issue for them to move in and they would prefer
[24:18] any delivery trucks who really don't want to stop on the circle they want to get right into
[24:24] the homes and they do. Mr. Gordon, you mentioned construction vehicles parking on the circle
[24:32] and I was looking at this subdivision and it seems like the subdivision is built out that
[24:39] Is there a house going up somewhere in the area where people are working and they're using this area to park?
[24:49] Is that okay?
[24:50] Well, what we're talking about right now is right in that area you're highlighting this two houses under construction.
[24:56] And every single day they're the truck, the delivery trucks.
[25:00] And I'm talking about big delivery trucks, concrete trucks.
[25:04] they all parade up the end of the street around the circle and come back out.
[25:11] They don't make you turns or anything, they can't.
[25:13] Some of these tractor trailers are much too large for that.
[25:17] So they come up the street, come around the circle.
[25:21] So that's happening right now.
[25:23] That's at 87 summer field lane.
[25:27] And across the street from that, we can kind of see a lot of brown sort of speed.
[25:33] that's going on right now. We know also that there is going to be a tear down at the end
[25:44] Mr. Frank Wolt is going to be selling his house and so that's going to be coming on the market
[25:52] and the sense is this probably going to be a tear down in the cul-de-sac. Actually, I have a
[26:01] a question maybe for Tom Hott and Tom, I'm assuming a private road and this is a
[26:09] comment road. Thank you and can you weigh in on what what state or county regulations
[26:16] applied to this on coldest acts, my only concern is precedent setting, can you weigh in on that?
[26:23] I'd have to look up any requirements of coldest acts as to whether or not they allow
[26:26] parking or no parking within them, but I believe since they're made for turn around
[26:30] that we want to at least restrict parking within them, maybe not eliminate it all together,
[26:38] but that vehicles wouldn't really park there all the time, which would prohibit traffic flow.
[26:44] Yeah, that's the only reason I'm saying, then I'd like to know that is that you may have
[26:48] law that already precede you on this.
[26:54] Thank you, Councilman. Yeah, that's a concern to you about
[26:58] precedence. It sounds like though it is needed for vehicles to turn around, particularly
[27:05] larger trucks. And if you have somebody parked in a cold sack, they can't reverse direction.
[27:15] But that could be achieved through no parking versus a no stopping or no standing.
[27:22] All right, this is my understanding of the state laws, well, supervisor. That's why I asked the question.
[27:31] So we haven't even got to the public yet. I'm still considering what we've heard so far as just presenting the idea.
[27:41] So let's go to, you know, there are others who wish to be heard on this. So let's, let's go to the public and then we can come back to Tom and to bury if we need to.
[27:50] So if somebody wants to be heard at this public hearing, just this first public hearing on
[27:57] these changes to the road configuration and the parking on summer field late, if you
[28:04] want to be heard on this hearing, put the raised hand icon, typically at the bottom of
[28:11] your zoom screen, let us know that you want to be heard, and we'll give you three minutes
[28:17] to make your comments now. Eric this first.
[28:21] All right. Sorry, my comments were for a leader part of the session on the
[28:25] IRA definition. Okay, but we'll get you on in a minute.
[28:31] So let's anyone who just on this summer field.
[28:35] I don't know if I can't find the the hand right now.
[28:40] May I speak, my name is Stanley Hot-Couser,
[28:44] by the 136 summer field.
[28:49] And my biggest concern,
[28:52] and the one for no stopping,
[28:55] is that there's a fire hydrant on that circle.
[28:59] And if anyone is parked
[29:01] and there's a way from this vehicle,
[29:04] and if the unforeseen
[29:05] circumstance of rise that either, and any kind of emergency vehicle, particularly fire trucks,
[29:14] have to get in, that they may be blocked. And that's my biggest concern. And parking on the streets
[29:20] there has never really, has never really, has never really been a problem. Most of the driveways
[29:26] whole four-five cars.
[29:32] And it's a, it's a,
[29:33] as far as I know it hasn't been a major problem.
[29:37] Or a problem at that point on the street parking.
[29:42] All right. Thank you, sir.
[29:44] All right. Is anyone else who wishes to be heard?
[29:47] I have a Debbie, and I'm trying to get her to put a video on.
[29:51] Which is a video on Debbie.
[30:01] Here you go.
[30:03] Thank you, speak.
[30:05] I, that's my wife.
[30:06] This is a lovely, I'm Larry Smith.
[30:09] I live at 161 summer field.
[30:12] You can say that it's just a northeastern bearing.
[30:15] I really don't have anything to add to the dialogue.
[30:17] I think very, yeah, council members have expressed it very well.
[30:21] But I do think that there is a problem.
[30:25] If you allow people to stop even for perhaps a short period of time,
[30:30] because there's very pointed out oftentimes these huge construction trucks are coming around
[30:35] and they camp back up. So I just want to say that I totally agree with a very
[30:41] and Mr. Hot Council.
[30:45] That's all I need.
[30:47] Right, is there anyone else?
[30:52] I see no other hands.
[30:54] All right, to come back to the board. Now I have another hand.
[31:02] This is only on the first public hearing on summer field late.
[31:09] Beth, let me bear.
[31:25] All right, sir, you can begin.
[31:27] Yeah, my right here.
[31:29] My name is Steve Bear.
[31:30] I'm directly across the street from Barry.
[31:34] I'm 154, some of you feel.
[31:37] And I kind of subscribe to what some of the other speakers has said,
[31:41] as I think Barry's presented the problem very well.
[31:44] And it's been very, frankly, a common, a constant source of conflict
[31:49] with the trucks stopping there a lot of times we have the garden to stop there and
[31:54] cause can't get through, trucks certainly can't get through. So I mean, I think the point
[31:58] that we brought up here, I would certainly support and holy.
[32:05] Okay, thank you, sir.
[32:08] All right, is there anyone else?
[32:10] Oh, I think it's all right.
[32:13] Board, do you have any other questions for the engineer or Barry?
[32:20] Well, just that I think I do have a contract for the board in the public.
[32:26] Okay.
[32:27] Okay.
[32:28] I got two of you speaking.
[32:29] So let me go to Councilman Bovier first, and then we'll go to Councilman Skirmone.
[32:34] Yeah, I'm just, I'm totally sympathetic with the residents, but I think there may be law that already covers this.
[32:41] I just want to double check that.
[32:43] And I know Tom will, well, you know, dig that out if it exists.
[32:46] I know we've dealt with sort of similar issues, not in a couple of
[32:51] that quite like this with a center in the way it is, in the way it's designed,
[32:56] but I understand the problem, it may be simpler to solve if there's
[33:00] pre-existing role already, and that would solve the precedent that we would do
[33:05] that as a town. That's my only comment.
[33:09] Councilman's security?
[33:11] Yeah, what I was going to say is that on in a lot of our parcels that have construction,
[33:20] it's been a practice of contractors to have their workers report to the job site.
[33:25] And that produces an inordinate amount of cars at these jobs sites.
[33:29] If you've got the plumbers, the sheet robbers there.
[33:32] And the carpenters as well, you could have 16, 18 different cars parked in and around the neighborhood.
[33:37] And I believe that this is at least part of the problem.
[33:40] I know landscapeers with very large trailers.
[33:43] That's another issue.
[33:44] It's difficult for them to back up,
[33:46] so they like to park on the streets.
[33:49] I will share a concern to the neighbors here.
[33:53] This may be somewhat of a temporary problem,
[33:56] and you're asking for a permanent fix.
[33:59] In other words, once we put these signs in,
[34:02] they would be there forever,
[34:04] but the houses that are being built,
[34:05] even with the ones that is gonna be
[34:07] done will be done, well, hopefully within years, right, but I know sometimes these things go on.
[34:14] And so those are my concerns from the outset, and also that to part of Councilman Boobie
[34:21] is pointing to the precedent that we set here, we have hundreds of cul-de-saxes throughout the
[34:25] town. So please understand that when we consider this request, we're also considering other cul-de-saxes
[34:31] in other parts of the town of Southampton.
[34:35] Let me offer some very, really brief comments here too.
[34:39] So obviously, whatever signage we put out there,
[34:41] it's only as good as our ability to enforce it.
[34:45] If there's no tickets being issued,
[34:47] then people will learn that they can park there
[34:49] without consequence.
[34:51] So you really need the police to be able to go down there
[34:54] once in a while and check if there's a problem.
[34:57] Um, you know, no parking solves the problems that you're talking about.
[35:02] Um, if somebody is at the landscape or whatever is parks of vehicle there so that they
[35:07] can mow along, they are parking and they know parkies on and they are subject to getting
[35:11] ticket.
[35:12] The no stopping is, you know, that's, that's the biggest hammer we have.
[35:18] And typically I only see that in, you know, more emergency types of situations, maybe in front
[35:24] a hospital or something or where somebody blocked it and create a threat to public health and
[35:33] safety. I don't have any initial adverse reaction to no parking. I think that would solve
[35:41] your problem. If it didn't solve the problem, I think I'd be willing to come back and look at
[35:47] something different, like a no stopping.
[35:50] But I think that is more typical of the situation like this.
[35:55] So I understand why you think that the no stopping
[35:58] would be the way to begin.
[36:00] But to go from absolutely, you can part there
[36:04] to no stopping is a big jump to me.
[36:08] So that's just my thoughts, but anyway,
[36:11] I don't know that the board is going to need
[36:13] discuss this and make a decision, I wish there was no resolution today for this. We were planning
[36:22] on keeping this open and possibly doing this again in a couple weeks. So, you know, we should
[36:27] all review what Barry sent us. It's quite extensive and maybe bring this up at a later meeting.
[36:33] When I was going to suggest Rick is that we do close the hearing for oral comments and we leave the
[36:41] record open. So, you know, because we do have that one neighbor who is mulling it over, who could be potentially affected by it, you know, so if we close the hearing, but leave the written record open for two weeks, that'll give us, I think enough time to review it.
[36:57] And then it gives anyone who missed this Zoom meeting a chance to make their comments known to the board. Is that I feel okay to you, Rick?
[37:05] Yeah, I think so. I'd like clarification on Council Mobile VA's point also, so we can go from that.
[37:13] All right, so I'll make that motion to close the hearing, but leave the written record open for two weeks.
[37:18] Yep, second.
[37:21] Second by count.
[37:23] It's Councilman Martell, all in favor.
[37:28] All right, okay.
[37:30] Okay, thank you all. So we'll let some of the summer field, Lane folks exit. Before we read the next public hearing notice, I don't know how long that will go on. I know we have a gentleman here for public portion to speak on a resolution that's before us. I just want to make sure Eric that you have a, I would say we might need 15, 20 minutes. I don't know, Charles, there are a lot of people who
[37:59] or waiting at the next public hearing?
[38:07] Here's 40 participants, those are some sort of questions.
[38:11] So, Eric, are you okay?
[38:13] It could be another half an hour before we ask.
[38:16] Absolutely.
[38:16] Absolutely, standing by.
[38:18] Perfect.
[38:19] All right.
[38:19] Thank you.
[38:20] Appreciate that.
[38:21] All right.
[38:21] Then Sunday, would you read the second public hearing notice?
[38:25] Public hearing number two.
[38:27] To amend town code chapter three, 30, 248V entitled
[38:31] Can you place in? Can Alan Eastern for these maritime and development district?
[38:37] KSE, MPDD. Section 3 entitled permitted uses. Subsection B entitled
[38:45] Canal property parcel 2 to add subsections 8, A, B, and C.
[38:52] And amend Section 7 entitled conditions. Subsections 7 and 12.
[38:58] All right, thank you, Sunday.
[39:02] So introducing this is, I believe, Janisher,
[39:05] our land planning and development administrator, Janis.
[39:09] Good afternoon, Mr. Supervisor, members of the board.
[39:11] Thank you, Janisher.
[39:14] And, yes, we had a work session just recently on this matter.
[39:17] And now is the public hearing.
[39:19] The proposal is to modify as Sunday,
[39:22] Tom Clark has just read the actual code that enabled
[39:27] the 37 residential townhouse units to include their use to be allowed for hospitality purposes
[39:35] and be connected to the CPI to that reason.
[39:39] Also part of this proposal includes modifying the conditional passiviesment on the waterfront,
[39:45] so that it becomes a permanent easement for public access, which is fantastic.
[39:51] We've always kind of had some roadblocks with the conditional passiviesment, and now this
[39:56] part of it is really what we've always wanted.
[39:59] And then the third component is modifying the water supply improvements related to the
[40:05] Hampton Bay's water district, which you are the commissioners of and recognizing the fact
[40:11] that the automated inter-connects are not necessarily required.
[40:16] Now that there's going to be a water main coming across the Chinatown and that difference
[40:22] in costs that they were going to pay for the interconnection, the applicant will put toward that
[40:28] public improvement. And then speaking on behalf of the applicant is here, Greg Ruckler,
[40:35] and his team, which includes Guy Germano, Kristen McAve, and Chick 4, he's of Nelson
[40:41] Hope and Work. And I'm here if you have any questions and Christine Scholar as well. Thank you.
[40:47] Supervisor, if I could just add one of the other amendments that this did in connection with a request
[40:53] made by then-cast woman, last said was it also would require the applicant to accommodate any kind
[41:01] of tax differential between the new hospitalities as opposed to just the resident chiefs.
[41:07] Thank you. Thanks for remembering that. Thank you. And we can get into that mechanism a little bit later here.
[41:14] So this, what to the public knows as the canoe place in, and the boat houses was a PDD, a planned development district, back at the, in the days when the town had PDD legislation, and there was a provision for public access along the canal.
[41:39] or through parts of the property, but there were some conditions that required other agencies to also grant easements under the railroad tracks and alongside the county locks.
[41:55] There is no sense that will ever be able to get those other easements, which means that we don't get this public access either either.
[42:05] either. So part of what is being offered here is to eliminate that springing easement and just go ahead and provide full on public access provision along the entire waterfront of the boathouse property as well as I guess a couple of viewing platforms.
[42:27] And the original easement was an entirely along the water.
[42:32] This one will be, I think, pretty much entirely along the water.
[42:35] So it'll afford the public greater views and greater fishing opportunities than original.
[42:44] And then just the conversion of the boat houses,
[42:50] which right now could be rented or sold, the limitation under the town code in terms of
[42:59] rental would be a two week rental, two week minimum rental. The other side, the hotel piece
[43:06] and the cottages that are associated, I think there's 20 hotel units and five houses or cottages.
[43:13] Those are motel use. The request is to allow the boat house to be incorporated into the motel
[43:19] use to make the hotel more viable by providing additional rooms, they're going to have a
[43:25] banquet facility over there, so in terms of accommodating weddings and things like that.
[43:31] But there was a concern that was raised about hotels typically are taxed at a lower rate as a
[43:39] commercial property than residential properties. And we did analyze that differential and it is
[43:48] what's significant.
[43:52] So we, Greg Greckler, offered to, you know, work with us to create a mechanism
[43:57] so that, you know, the various tax entities, the town, and fire district, and school districts,
[44:03] et cetera, libraries would all be, would not receive any less than had it remained residential
[44:10] on property. So, and then the last piece had to do as fire suppression as you mentioned, and
[44:19] there was concern about water pressure which led to this automated valve requirement,
[44:27] but we're addressing the water pressure through a, by directionally drilling a new water main
[44:33] underneath the canal, which is scheduled to happen pretty soon. So, the automated valve
[44:40] ran into all kinds of issues, not the cost.
[44:43] The cost was being borne by the developer here,
[44:47] but there was a monthly fee that was significant
[44:52] for just having that valve operational plus.
[44:56] Every time that valve got used,
[44:58] there was significant charges.
[45:00] So, the residents of the Henten Bayes were autistic would be stuck with that bill. And this doesn't make any sense to leave to go that route when you have this other mechanism. So, I just wanted to add that additional information.
[45:17] All right, so there's any one from the developer side, I see check is here and Greg is here, do you guys want to say any additional things that the onset of this public hearing?
[45:37] Yes, sure. I'll meet jump in. So what I thought I would do is maybe quickly, you know, and I know we spoke about this at the previous hearing, but maybe run through what's been happening on both, you know, both properties both the community place.
[45:50] property and as well as the, you know, the canal property or, you know, the hemp that
[45:56] though has property.
[45:58] It's a possible to share my screen.
[46:01] Charles, would you like, Greg, share it there.
[46:04] If that while you get that up and running, just one more sort of a point of information,
[46:14] I guess, because this is a PDD, changing the PDD does require a super
[46:20] majority vote. It's a, normally it's a three out of five, but I've always been a lawyers can correct me. I believe that this modification does require a super majority.
[46:37] All right. Should I, should I go ahead? Thank you. I go ahead.
[46:41] Okay, great. So I'm, I'm going to do a very quick overview. I think I mentioned last time.
[46:46] You know, we originally obtained the change of zone approval back in 2015.
[46:54] We received site plan approval in 2017 and started construction back in 2018.
[47:01] You know, the original plan as many, you know, was, you know, way back in, you know, when we first acquired the property was to
[47:09] demolish the old and build a new project there. And subsequently, we were engaged with the
[47:19] community and there was a real love and passion to retain the old in. As many of you know,
[47:28] the end was in real disrepair. And we really all feel really questioned what it would look like
[47:38] and you could kind of see from the same and share
[47:40] that it was in bad shape.
[47:44] And you know, through a lot of work and studying,
[47:48] we realized that we really could save the end
[47:51] and you know, and with that we, you know,
[47:55] it started off slow, but became a real passion project
[47:58] for Mitchell and myself.
[48:01] And yeah, as many of you know,
[48:03] in the original in dates back, you know,
[48:06] you know, you know, you know, to, you know, or this in the 1920, when it burnt down, the original in burnt down, and the new end was built in 21, 22. So we're really on the the cost of the 100th year anniversary of this structure.
[48:25] The idea is to really create a series of gardens and the design inspiration is garden by the sea.
[48:34] And if you kind of look at the images to the left, you can see all of our inspiration touchstones.
[48:41] The lobby will be the centerpiece of the property.
[48:46] You know, the trellises, the brick flooring is reminiscent of the original brick flooring
[48:54] in the overception room of the original end.
[48:57] So we're really bringing all the original elements back into this property.
[49:04] The ballroom, which many of you have probably only seen as a dance hall in a disco,
[49:10] So we'll be restored back to a grand border with this beautiful metal carpet.
[49:18] We had to rebuild the entire structure and ceiling.
[49:22] We had to raise the building and pour new foundations and then place the building back on the new foundations.
[49:30] And at the same time we're storing the old rotunda, which will be an amazing beautiful space.
[49:37] The, you know, this property also have an indoor restaurant that will have, you know, just under, you know, you know, it believes 85 seats, including the bar, which we're now naming good ground tavern and, you know, the idea is really respect the history of this property in Anthony Bayes.
[50:00] adjacent to that is what we're calling the little kitchen and, you know, and while, you know, the details look like this has been here a hundred years as it should.
[50:10] We've really gone back and researched many different images working with historian, you know, Bob Strada on really identifying what the building looked like in, you know, in its glory years.
[50:25] You know, in addition, there'll be an outdoor dining area, which we'll have about 120 seats and same thing, it's, you know, it's good to be really special and unique.
[50:39] And you can kind of see it here. This is what it would look like.
[50:43] You know, part of what we're doing is not just the bricks and mortar, but also the culture, the branding.
[50:49] And what you know, when mission I realized is as we got into this structure, it's so important
[50:56] and has such great history and Hampton Bayes, and as many of you know, back in its
[51:02] heyday, people like Lucille Ball, and there's the Ernest, Baye Bruth, you know, would
[51:07] come here in the summertime, and we wanted to respect that, and we wanted to respect it,
[51:14] not just with the physical design of the structure, but also within the brand.
[51:21] And in doing all this, we also realized that we're now building the equivalent of a five
[51:26] star hotel in Hampton Bay. And we think it's amazing. And we're excited about it. But in
[51:33] also doing that, we realize that we're building such large infrastructure to support that. And with
[51:44] like with high-end managers and staff and doing so, we realized that the canal property really needed
[51:54] to be connected to it in a more significant way. And you know, for those who haven't, you know, seen, you know, the
[52:02] boat houses, you know, that also in some ways become, you know, you know, we believe special and a really
[52:09] wonderful part of, you know, the canal escape as both, you know, cross in from the
[52:14] infirm database. So, you know, you know, and so just some, you know, quick glimpse of what,
[52:21] the, you know, the canal property with you look like or the hemp and boat house is look like.
[52:32] So here we're looking at a club at a club room, you know, after a pool, gym, and you know, and in doing all this and in talking to the town and Janice and Jay, you know, you know, not only did the two properties need to be connected, but the public access needed to be connected and really, you know, and because if it's going to act and be and feel like a hospitality project then it should be accessed by the public.
[52:59] So, you know, this is, and I am sure, you know, check before we start talking more detail.
[53:05] But this, as Jay mentioned, if you see the highlighted areas in pink on the top,
[53:11] who are in, you can see that, you know, basically the public will have access to pretty much the entire waterfront with the project,
[53:18] you know, which includes multiple viewing platforms for them to enjoy, you know, the property.
[53:26] So this is a little greater detail of that.
[53:30] Yeah, so with that, I'm going to really turn it over to Chick-for-Hase to kind of get into the details of what we're proposing.
[53:40] But again, I think, you know, I think we've really enjoyed creating something special and restoring this in.
[53:49] and we really think as a combined hospitality project,
[53:54] they will benefit hand-to-face.
[53:58] So I'm going to turn it over to Chick
[53:59] and I will stop sharing my screen.
[54:04] All right, thank you, Greg.
[54:07] This is a supervisor, okay, to proceed?
[54:09] Yes, Chick, good.
[54:10] Great, thank you, great to see you all.
[54:12] For the record, it's Chick Moorees of Nelson Pope Borees.
[54:16] And I'm a planner and an environmental professional.
[54:18] I'm really proud to have been involved
[54:20] with this project since the inception.
[54:23] It's wonderful to see how it's unfolded
[54:26] and have decisions were made
[54:28] and really to see it come to fruition.
[54:33] The changes were outlined in a great detail,
[54:36] J by yourself and Janice, right in the beginning.
[54:43] So, I just wanted to mention
[54:45] that we prepared and expanded environmental assessment.
[54:47] This project had a full environmental impact statement and we did see these changes as relatively minor, but any time you change a project you really need to look at the implications under the secret EIS record and for the purpose of determining
[55:03] Excuse me if any of those changes may have an environmental impact.
[55:07] So, as I said, the changes are minor, but we did have a nice opportunity, as Janice mentioned, to discuss this with the town board at the work session on December 2nd.
[55:18] And so we got a sense of the issues that may come up, and we were able to address them in a January 2022 document, which you have as part of your record.
[55:31] So I'll just do a couple of quick summary points, we don't need to belabor it, but we did
[55:38] provide the request to the information.
[55:40] First, James had to do with taxes, that's been covered, but basically we reached out to
[55:46] the assessor who provided two updated assessments for hospitality use.
[55:51] The assessments are less than the assessments would have been for townhome use.
[55:58] So, the applicant, as we've noted, has agreed to offset the change and revenue with the payment and the little taxes equal to the difference.
[56:08] And that's using the, the most conservative of those two estimates.
[56:14] So that's detail in the report in section 2.1.2.
[56:20] We also looked at traffic and found that 37 hotel rooms generate less traffic than town homes on weekdays.
[56:27] a little more traffic on weekends. In either cases the differences aren't that substantial,
[56:34] not really talking about that many cars. But based on the proposed traffic improvements,
[56:40] the synergy between the CPI and the boathouses for different services that will be shared.
[56:46] Shuttle service as well as lower wintertime use from a hospitality use. There's really no
[56:53] impact on traffic as a result of the proposed change. And that's covered in
[56:59] section 2.1.2 of the report. We also reviewed land use plans and found that the
[57:05] planned changes are consistent with the land use plans that the town has been
[57:10] pursuing for decades. The changes are also consistent with the prior zoning of
[57:16] the property and also the intent of the PDD in the legislative intent of the law.
[57:22] So those were all beneficial aspects of the changes that we're talking about.
[57:27] That's covered in 2.1.3 of them important.
[57:32] Janice mentioned, and I think this is really a huge benefit.
[57:36] Section 3 of the report addresses the granting of the permanent easement to allow public access across the waterfront and other parts of the site.
[57:45] So, this replaces the conditional easement with restrict, I'm sorry, with the access required connections to properties to the North and South.
[57:56] It's no longer a spring easement, it's supposed to be a permanent easement, and Greg showed the image of connection, which will include the public park in the area at the south side of the site.
[58:10] The boardwalk and access to the south platform, the ramp and access to the float, access across the frontage of the upland portion of the project near the bulkhead, and then connecting to the marine and going all the way to the north, but allowing for an opportunity to go up the steps to a second platform, more than the northern part of the site, and then connect by sidewalk out to the road.
[58:37] So it really is a tremendous opportunity for public access, increased public access, and this
[58:44] change is 100% beneficial and meets many town planning goals for public access to the
[58:51] waterfront.
[58:52] The final report, part of the report, has been addressed, but it analyzes in section 4.
[58:59] The change in water supply infrastructure in J.A., I think you covered this in detail,
[59:03] The bottom line is that the change involves that the district will be providing a conveyance
[59:10] pot type across the Chinatown, which was the preferred method from prior studies.
[59:17] So, the applicant was to provide proportional funding for what are district improvements.
[59:24] And the applicant will provide the same level of funding contribution on kind of commitments.
[59:30] So, based on our analysis, the project changes do not result in any significant environmental impacts and mostly provide benefits.
[59:40] As a result, I hope you'll find this to be a great application for the town, and that you'll consider moving forward with the modifications to the PDD.
[59:49] Thank you very much.
[59:51] Quick questions, I guess, one in terms of the school.
[1:00:00] They're going to be provided the same amount in taxes, as you said. That's the main property
[1:00:06] taxes, sippy in is the school. The old model, the current model, which hasn't been modified yet,
[1:00:14] but you could actually have school children generated from the townhouses, but the new model,
[1:00:21] there wouldn't be any school children because it'd be a resort type of use, correct?
[1:00:27] That's exactly correct.
[1:00:29] The supervisor we do mention that on page 2-4 report.
[1:00:34] I didn't want to read the report.
[1:00:35] Oh, the school will be made.
[1:00:37] The school is kind of received the same amount of money,
[1:00:41] but their expenses may be lesser.
[1:00:45] And the correct.
[1:00:46] The other thing, just economically, and I don't know if you did this in your report,
[1:00:51] There may be some differences between residential,
[1:00:56] you're around residential versus the hotel tourism
[1:01:00] used in terms of multipliers,
[1:01:05] economic multipliers within the community.
[1:01:08] There's an assumption there that the people who will stay
[1:01:11] at the resort may go out to dinner more,
[1:01:16] may shop in local stores more,
[1:01:19] things like that. But I think that is not an unreasonable assumption to assume that there may be
[1:01:26] some economic benefits to this, to the greater business community with an empty day. So in terms
[1:01:34] of jobs, are there any additional jobs created this way versus the other way?
[1:01:42] Well, at first point, I would definitely agree. We didn't break it down to what quantified
[1:01:47] analysis, but qualitatively, I would absolutely expect more patronage of shops and, you know,
[1:01:54] greater benefits of the, you know, commerce in the Henten Bay area, as well as throughout the region,
[1:02:01] including the village of Southampton and other parts of the town.
[1:02:07] Let me just think the second part of yours. Full time, looking 50 years, full time job.
[1:02:13] Yes. I can let Greg speak to that. I know he's been looking at the model
[1:02:17] of hospitality and, you know,
[1:02:21] conscientiously and basically have
[1:02:22] an monetized type of synergy
[1:02:24] between both buildings.
[1:02:26] So I do believe there will be greater
[1:02:28] employment opportunities.
[1:02:30] Greg, did you have anything you wanted to add to that?
[1:02:33] Yeah, I mean, not yet exactly.
[1:02:35] So as I mentioned, you know,
[1:02:36] I guess kind of briefly, you know,
[1:02:39] we're going to build a pre-significant
[1:02:40] employee-based infrastructure
[1:02:42] to service the hotel,
[1:02:44] the restaurants and the catering. The catering is good, you know, to conserve up to 350 people.
[1:02:52] And, you know, with that infrastructure by adding, you know, the 37 town homes,
[1:02:58] we're basically going to, you know, add a significant probably three times the amount of housekeeping services that we would otherwise, you know,
[1:03:08] had, you know, not had, just with the hotel. So yeah, so we have, you know, the, the permanent
[1:03:14] employment will be significant for both properties. And, you know, and if the towns were, you
[1:03:21] know, you know, owned by, you know, individuals, you know, those jobs would not probably be created.
[1:03:28] Chick, I guess one more question for you, in terms of the traffic impact, that's been my,
[1:03:32] My primary concern with the change, traffic patterns, people going back and forth from one side
[1:03:40] and it can out to the other, the housekeeping staff going back and forth, room service,
[1:03:47] going back and forth, people using services at the hotel while they're staying on the other
[1:03:53] side of the canal, maybe it's a, maybe it's a fit, it's facility and things like that though.
[1:03:59] I think that there may be some of those things like pools already on the, on the, on the
[1:04:05] boathouse side that will prevent them from needing to go to the other side. But have you done
[1:04:11] that analysis in terms of, you know, would there be additional traffic there, particularly on
[1:04:18] north road, would you do have a bunch of residential properties? And we've already had quite a bit,
[1:04:23] I know the county is studying that intersection. That does get, that does get backlog quite a bit over there.
[1:04:33] So, have you done much analysis on that in terms of those, the changes in use, whether it would generate some additional trips?
[1:04:41] Well, I will tell you what we did do, and then we can talk a little bit more about some of these really more detailed operational type of questions.
[1:04:50] We did compare the trip generation for 37 town hall units to 37 hotel units.
[1:04:59] Town hall units generate greater traffic. Traffic studies are generally done at AMP
[1:05:05] Gower and PMP Gower, because that's the time of most traffic on the roadways when you
[1:05:09] have congestion. And so those peak hours are what we've looked at. On the morning peak
[1:05:16] traffic for 37 townholds is 34 cars and it goes down to 17 cars based on a hotel room use.
[1:05:26] So it basically is decreased by half and it's at 17 cars.
[1:05:32] That's entering and exiting 10 cars entering in 7 cars exiting.
[1:05:37] It's not a huge amount of traffic during the AMP tower.
[1:05:40] For the PM peak hour, the traffic goes from 36 cars to 22 cars for decrease in 14 cars between townhome and hotel room use.
[1:05:53] You know, it's a decrease, it's only 22 cars, 11 entering and 11 leaving, and for Saturday, the traffic goes from 15 cars for town homes up to 31 cars for hotel units.
[1:06:11] So, it's a little higher during the midday peak hour on Saturdays, it's only 31 cars, 17 entering and 14 exiting.
[1:06:21] Again, not really a substantial amount.
[1:06:24] So, we did qualitatively looked at it as well.
[1:06:28] And again, Greg may want to add, but we are expecting synergy between the two buildings.
[1:06:34] I do want to point out just because I'm a healthy person and I like to walk.
[1:06:37] But to two uses are walkable, that doesn't mean everyone's going to do it, but it is possible.
[1:06:44] And there can be combined shuttle type services. I know we talked about that in the original
[1:06:49] applications to promote activities and transportation access to downtown hemp and bays,
[1:06:57] recreational facilities in the area, the villages south-hamped and other areas as
[1:07:02] determined by demand. So I think that will help. And then, you know, I think for hotel rooms
[1:07:09] when you think about the trip generation, you know, that is including all of the employees as
[1:07:15] well as all of the guests in the ITE trip generation numbers. So the fact that it's going down quite
[1:07:22] bit during weekdays, you know, those factors should already be factored in.
[1:07:30] I think any other types of operational, you know, inter-connections between the two facilities will help. We also indicated that during the winter, you're just not going to get as much use of a hotel hospitality type site as you would permanently occupied town homes. So that should be a significant traffic benefit.
[1:07:52] So that includes both the quantitative and the qualitative things that we considered and I hope that answers your question.
[1:08:00] Chick was or maybe Greg was I correct.
[1:08:03] When I stated that I thought there was resort type of amenities or ready like shared pools and fitness facilities and things like that on the boat outside that would prevent the necessity of going from one side to another.
[1:08:20] Absolutely. Absolutely. So I think I did show it in my office. So yeah, so at the
[1:08:28] HIMT about houses, there's a waterfront pool, as well as health club and clubhouse that
[1:08:38] will provide all the, you know, mentally and services to the people who are staying at the
[1:08:44] the boat houses so that those individuals will not be leaving the town homes and going over to
[1:08:51] a new place, you know, for those services. And then the other point that
[1:08:56] chick brought up, which kind of goes to my point of creating a better efficiency, is that, you know,
[1:09:05] we will be providing shuttle services to the guests at the hotel and also at the boat houses,
[1:09:11] bringing them to, you know, downtown Hampton Bayes, you know, the recreational, you know,
[1:09:19] parks, you know, in Bay, in Ocean Beach, beaches, you know, South Hampton Village, you know,
[1:09:25] really everything that, you know, by having this kind of, you know, total, you know, mass in, you know,
[1:09:33] for one group of constituencies, we're able to create a shuttle system that will move people around
[1:09:38] officially.
[1:09:39] Right. So what I'd like to do is I'd like to go to the board after the board, we're going to go to the public and we'll do that probably in two segments because I've got a lot of text coming in with questions as well. So, but we'll we'll get.
[1:09:57] We'll let the speakers speak and then we'll try to go through the questions we've received by the text. So first, any town board members have any initial questions for the presenters.
[1:10:10] Just wanted to confirm there's parking for employees on both sides of the canal.
[1:10:17] There is.
[1:10:18] It's all part of the site plan.
[1:10:20] The site plans have been approved and obviously there are under construction.
[1:10:25] And it will include parking for employees as well as guests.
[1:10:33] What are your early plans to get your guests from the.
[1:10:38] old houses over two of the convention hall crossing over the bridge is that is that going to be a
[1:10:44] shuttle system or have you contacted the county and some kind of work to be done on the bridge in
[1:10:49] some way shape or form or both.
[1:10:55] Greg, I sure I'll get it. I didn't know if you were to actually check.
[1:10:59] Yeah, I'll let you check that. Yeah, no, so I mean, so again, we will have a shuttle that will, you know,
[1:11:05] run that will bring guests from the boat houses to the new place in as well as to other destinations
[1:11:13] as I mentioned before and back and back over.
[1:11:16] Yeah, that's kind of again, that's kind of the efficiency that we will be able to create by combining
[1:11:20] these properties.
[1:11:23] Okay.
[1:11:24] Well, those guests have to check in at CPI and then go to the room where we'll have an automated
[1:11:30] check-in system. Now we will have an automated check-in system and we'll have somebody meeting them
[1:11:37] on site at the Hinton boat houses. Okay, the other questions from town board members?
[1:11:47] Okay, so seeing none there, we're going to go first to the public who want to share comments verbally
[1:11:54] and then we can go through the text, the chat messages. So Charles,
[1:12:01] If you want to be heard typically we allow three minutes and we ask you to click the raise hand icon so that we know that you want to be heard.
[1:12:11] So if you could please do that and we will bring you on, Susan is first.
[1:12:21] Okay,
[1:12:25] all right, Susan.
[1:12:28] I see Eric's got his hand up, but I know that's not for this presentation.
[1:12:34] That's for public portion.
[1:12:38] All right.
[1:12:39] All right.
[1:12:40] You're going to have to unmute.
[1:12:41] And we have Susan Vaughn Friday, Susan Gastman.
[1:12:47] Hi.
[1:12:48] Hi.
[1:12:50] I, uh, most of you know who I am, but if you don't, I'm Susan Vaughn Friday
[1:12:55] Gastman.
[1:12:56] I, uh, only a real estate company in Hampton Bayes for many, many, many years.
[1:13:02] I've been a business person in town, and I have been following the
[1:13:06] new place in cottages from the inception.
[1:13:12] I did want to speak in favor of including the boat houses in the canoe place in cottages
[1:13:18] hospitality group.
[1:13:20] And the reason for that is there's such a great need for hotel rooms.
[1:13:26] Hampton Bayes is looking more beautiful than ever and we are getting more and more people
[1:13:31] coming here to stay, to visit, to live, to vacation. I also like very much that the permanent
[1:13:41] canal access will be made available, so that actually makes all of this in a car canal
[1:13:48] on the eastern side is available to the public all the way down to the iconic bay. I'm happy
[1:13:56] Yeah, the taxes will be adjusted so that the school will remain intact and not have any reduction.
[1:14:07] It will become a wonderful destination.
[1:14:11] I believe that there will also not be any children in the school, so that will solve one of those problems.
[1:14:17] And also, I just wanted to say that I actually had a phone call this weekend from a woman
[1:14:26] who used to live in Hampton Bayes now lives up in Northern California.
[1:14:33] And she asked me about the canoe place in and wanted to know a little bit more about it
[1:14:39] because she's planning 150 person wedding in September and she had to make a decision very
[1:14:46] So whether she's going to come to the canoe place in in September or to Sonoma County in California.
[1:14:54] So there definitely people will come to this property and the
[1:15:00] The town homes have kitchens in them, so it will certainly be helpful for families that are coming for a wedding
[1:15:07] or an event will have the room to stay, including a kitchen. So I very much in favor of this. I think it is a win-win for
[1:15:17] Hampton-based, and I hope you will consider it. Thank you.
[1:15:26] Thank you. Susan, is there anyone else?
[1:15:32] The initials MF, just don't know,
[1:15:39] right? You have to unmute. And please identify yourself
[1:15:45] so we have you in our record.
[1:15:50] If you're speaking to me, it's Margaret Friedlander. I'm a resident of Hampton Bayes. I live in
[1:16:05] just a few questions. I'm not sure I heard correctly if there would be any burden on tax fears
[1:16:12] in regarding the Hampton Bay's water district. There was some fashion earlier and I wasn't really
[1:16:18] clear about the result of that conversation. I understand that the gap in any tax is already covered
[1:16:27] and I understand that. So that's part one of my question. And part two is has anybody done any traffic
[1:16:35] assessment in terms of the burden of increased vehicles on the new place road and Lynn Avenue
[1:16:44] heading to the beaches? I'm a little concerned about that and being in Kormort Point, I already
[1:16:54] It's certainly increased traffic due to more people moving in and living here full time and excessive excess of speed and excessive speed and like it's a highway.
[1:17:09] All right.
[1:17:11] So I don't know what anybody from the CPI team wants to address that chick.
[1:17:19] I can start. Margaret's first question had to do with the Hampton-based water district and there are
[1:17:26] people that are more knowledgeable than about that than I am. I think Jim Burke has been following
[1:17:33] this as has guide your mind of who's joined us and they want to speak. But my understanding is there
[1:17:39] will not be any tax impact as a result of this project that the water district is seeking to make
[1:17:46] improvements that they do have dollars set aside for those improvements. And they were needed
[1:17:51] regardless of this project or not. And the original contribution for the Internet connects
[1:17:56] to the extent that there's a difference in funds will be provided. So I'll go to the next question
[1:18:03] and then just check on that issue though in terms of the coverage between because what's at the
[1:18:08] heart of this proposal is a conversion from a residential year-round residential use to a hotel use
[1:18:15] will there be equivalent water demands or will that change?
[1:18:21] And if the hotel use requires more water,
[1:18:25] that could then affect pressure and things like that.
[1:18:27] So I guess that's part of the question.
[1:18:30] So have you done that analysis in terms of what are you using?
[1:18:33] That may also relate to Suffolk County Health Department,
[1:18:36] whether the current sewage treatment facility
[1:18:38] is adequate for the hotel use versus the residential use?
[1:18:44] Well, residential units depend on me, but I expect that all of these are going to be in the range of 300 gallons per day per unit.
[1:18:55] And hotel rooms do have a different wastewater generation factor.
[1:18:59] I would actually have to check that because I don't want to misspeak.
[1:19:03] I'd expect they'd be similar and we do have an STP that will handle all the wastewater.
[1:19:10] but we'll get back to you with that information. As far as traffic, the specific question from
[1:19:18] Ms. Fulinander had to do with the commute place in and you all will many of you recall many
[1:19:23] of you were on the board or observing but we did go through a full environmental impact statement
[1:19:29] at that time and that included a very detailed traffic study of the commute place in as well
[1:19:36] the Boat House property for the uses proposed at that time and that resulted in seekers
[1:19:42] statement of findings and the decisions will prove the projects. So I would say that all of that
[1:19:48] has been addressed and it did include the hotel hospitality use and you know ballroom and conference
[1:20:01] center, whatever activities will take place at the venue, that was all factored into the traffic
[1:20:07] study.
[1:20:08] And it's basically built and rebuilt and we'll change from the original proposed project.
[1:20:14] And I did cover the change in traffic between town home units and the hotel room units
[1:20:22] on the boathouse property, and that for the most part, the traffic decreases.
[1:20:26] So I believe all that's been factored in and considered.
[1:20:28] I think though the question was more targeted, does the conversion from the townhouses to the hotel,
[1:20:34] the boathouse property, put more traffic on Lynn Avenue, I suppose, going down to the beach,
[1:20:41] than the residential use?
[1:20:44] Well, if you think about occupants, you're around in town homes that are going to want to use
[1:20:50] recreational facilities in the area and are all going to have their own cars.
[1:20:54] Because based on the trip generation, there's not a huge difference, but it's less on the
[1:21:02] weekdays and a little more on the weekend.
[1:21:05] But when you factor in much less winter use as well as shuttle service to key destinations
[1:21:13] on balance, there's really no change, there's no signal.
[1:21:17] And I expect it would be less traffic.
[1:21:19] So there might be a beach shuttle or something like that.
[1:21:22] That would be my next question.
[1:21:25] Will there will there be a beach shuttle?
[1:21:28] Yes, there would be.
[1:21:30] Okay, I think that would leave you a lot of traffic and parking concerns.
[1:21:38] Thank you.
[1:21:39] Good day.
[1:21:41] And that actually has may have an additional benefit that if you have all the residences with all the taking up all the parking spaces at the beaches.
[1:21:49] that's less parking spaces for other people.
[1:21:53] Whereas if you drop them off by shuttle, that freees up parking spaces for others.
[1:21:58] All right. Let's move on to the next individual. I think Rich Jocelyn is he next?
[1:22:07] Okay, go ahead on mute, Rich.
[1:22:13] Can you hear me? I can. Okay. Good afternoon, supervisor and town council.
[1:22:21] My name is Rich Dozlin. I'm a lifelong resident of Hampton Bayes, and I've always had
[1:22:26] a strong interest in the preservation of the canoe place.
[1:22:30] I have a lot of connection there. My uncle was the original owner and his father built the
[1:22:37] boat the end prior to the 1925. I believe the boat has modifications to hotel use as beneficial
[1:22:47] in many ways. Number one, it increases the number of rooms available for conventions and weddings,
[1:22:53] which makes it much more attractive because it's more inclusive and provides more amenities
[1:22:58] for people coming out here. Many people can take the train out. They know they don't have to look for
[1:23:04] other locations for rooms. They don't have to look and riverhead or into Southampton Village.
[1:23:10] If they know there are enough rooms available here, you can hold large conventions and because
[1:23:17] of the availability of all these rooms and amenities, conventions won't just be confined to some
[1:23:23] use, or weddings won't be confined to summer use, it'll become more of a year round place
[1:23:32] for all these events to occur. Plus, they have to base high school students are involved
[1:23:40] in the canoe place in through the hospitality program that we offer. And the busier it is,
[1:23:48] more involved, our students can get, and we can expand our programs for our students.
[1:23:54] And I see this as a wonderful addition to Hampton Bayes.
[1:23:57] And I understand the traffic concerns.
[1:23:59] I understand, well, the other concerns that are there.
[1:24:03] But we seem to solve them, and the records have provided many opportunities for people to move around,
[1:24:13] with the shuttles, et cetera, et cetera.
[1:24:14] So I am hoping that this conversion will be approved.
[1:24:22] And I look forward to going to our event there.
[1:24:25] We hope to have our 50th high school reunion there this summer.
[1:24:32] So thank you very much.
[1:24:34] All right.
[1:24:34] Thank you, Rich.
[1:24:36] All right.
[1:24:37] Charles, who's next?
[1:24:41] Does look like you have to me, but
[1:24:44] Andre,
[1:24:48] is that correct?
[1:24:53] I just was writing some questions down here and then you asked me to come on to speak, so I kind of, you know, I think it's a wonderful thing.
[1:25:03] I think for many reasons that's already been stated, I was just concerned where residents that are directly across from the North Shore Road are property runs right up to North Shore Road.
[1:25:17] And I was wondering, you know, the questions that I sort of wrote will there be additional
[1:25:23] noise the neighbors across North Shore road.
[1:25:27] Unwild would land old canoe road, Senator Drive, Starboard Road being creased.
[1:25:31] The resort motel makes for more transitory people and wedding celebrations.
[1:25:36] The question of late night noise that carries, as we all know, a noise carries pretty
[1:25:42] far in these areas.
[1:25:43] And then the concern about the traffic, you know, when you have 350 people coming from a party on a Saturday night, a Friday night, also drinking at the party, you know, all of a sudden, that feels like it could become, you know, more dangerous for accidents that particular north through a road intersection in the 27 and moving and moving to the entrance and exits.
[1:26:12] off of the highway that's just a short way further up. As somebody mentioned, the speed of cars
[1:26:23] is very fast at times, a young child, and we'd walk to the beach, we'd walk on that side
[1:26:31] walk that was built there. But I'm just concerned that, you know, is the speed limit going
[1:26:39] change and I'm just questioning that that vehicle study. I mean it seems kind of strange
[1:26:49] when you talk about 22 extra vehicles in a place that has 63 rooms that you're planning.
[1:26:56] These large parties of 300 people and you have to have service people going in and out and
[1:27:03] know, people, you know, 22 extra cars on a Saturday seem, I'm just, I'm just, how do you
[1:27:11] analyze that and predict it so easily, when just from, I don't know, common sense if you
[1:27:17] have in a big party on Saturday night, I'm just a little unclear about that. And, you know,
[1:27:25] so I'm more concerned about some of the safety issues that are going to occur right outside
[1:27:30] the facility in a place where the traffic already seems a little unsafe at the moment and I'm
[1:27:36] just wondering how the supervisors and the canoe owners are looking at those questions.
[1:27:46] All right, Greg, anyone from your team want to try that?
[1:27:50] Hey, I'll take a shot at it. First, you know, I think it's in my mind beneficial,
[1:27:58] that, you know, there is a source of accommodations in the nearby area. We want the
[1:28:05] community in place to be successful. You know, you want it to be used as intended. And again,
[1:28:11] that was part of the original plan that's part of the PDD that's not subject to change.
[1:28:17] People coming back to the boat houses. I mean, the boat houses, though, it will operate synergistically
[1:28:23] with, with, with, with, with, with canoe place, you know, they're available for rent to anyone. And, um, you know, I don't expect a, at the enormous amount of activity. You do know the layout of the project. There's not a lot of activity fronting north road. You know, the pool area is to the west of the units.
[1:28:42] The units kind of traverse the property and I think will tend to attenuate sound and you really don't have the
[1:28:51] outdoor gathering areas. So, you know, I wouldn't be too worried about that.
[1:28:57] I think the federal service between the uses will be extremely helpful in controlling
[1:29:03] that flow of traffic and making sure people get to where they need to be safely.
[1:29:10] And then, you know, I think people have to use common sense, and observe appropriate laws and not create a disturbance.
[1:29:20] Speed limits are not up to us, but they are up to transportation professionals.
[1:29:24] And I'm sure that that will be monitored over time.
[1:29:28] And so I really don't, I don't feel that this is going to create an adverse change.
[1:29:32] I did want to go back to one question from before Mr. Supervisor. I did look up the design flow factors, and it's interesting because Motel and hotel units are 150 gallons per day per unit.
[1:29:47] And the largest residential unit is 300 gallons per day per unit.
[1:29:52] When you have a kitchenette, basically the hotel flow factors lead you.
[1:30:00] To the housing unit flow factor. So what I'm saying is that the wastewater flow is identical, the town home units and the hotel units. And that answers the question from before.
[1:30:14] All right, thank you.
[1:30:15] Yeah, and let me just just just one other question that Mr. Manifitz asked regarding sound as relates to party convenience.
[1:30:24] So during the original PDD, that was studied pretty extensively, and that was a real concern to, you know, people, you know,
[1:30:33] you know, in and around the property and within the community. And that was addressed in, in the prior approval in terms of sound
[1:30:40] intanguation for the building. So when events and parties are happening within the ballroom, that has been addressed and is covered, you know,
[1:30:48] the construction of the canoe place in as it exists today. As well as sound, it ordinances,
[1:30:57] you know, when parties can be thrown, when they can't be thrown, and also sound attenuation,
[1:31:02] you know, even outside. So all the sound, you know, the noise and sound concerns regarding
[1:31:07] large venues was, you know, identified in the original approvals and are being mitigated through
[1:31:15] the construction of the new ones, but I appreciate you bringing that on that issue.
[1:31:20] Greg, are you going to provide some sort of 24-hour security or some presence?
[1:31:26] So let's say there is a noise. I would just think for your own hotel guests, you'd want that,
[1:31:31] but yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, if you really think of it,
[1:31:36] it's going to run, I don't know that we'll be technically a five star. I was just going to
[1:31:41] five star hotel so we're going to have 24 hour you know staff you know on site on both properties
[1:31:48] monitoring safety security you know there are also a set of you know rules and regulations
[1:31:54] that go with all the property and we'll make sure that somebody will be there to address and
[1:31:59] citizen and make sure absolutely I'm going to move on then to Brenda that's okay with it the next
[1:32:04] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Claire.
[1:32:08] Render, you'll have to unmute.
[1:32:13] Hi. Hi.
[1:32:14] My name is Brenda St. Claire, Bernstein, and then from Hampton days.
[1:32:18] I would like to support my voice, my support of this change.
[1:32:21] This change addresses many of the issues that we're discussed from the very beginning of this project.
[1:32:26] The public access portion is more than we're originally offered.
[1:32:30] This was something that was a ticking point, and we should be thrilled that it's worked out the way it has
[1:32:36] because now we will have even more access on this promise.
[1:32:39] They will not be any more children in our schools,
[1:32:42] which is another concern and yet the tax benefits shall remain.
[1:32:46] I believe that the records have proved themselves very strongly
[1:32:49] to be a true partner to our community.
[1:32:51] And I would sincerely urge the Board to accept this change
[1:32:55] and support them as they will follow it.
[1:32:58] And thank you.
[1:33:01] Thank you.
[1:33:02] You know, I do remember, though, I wasn't supervisor at a time,
[1:33:04] one of the main community concerns was the loss of access
[1:33:07] on the east side of the canal.
[1:33:10] Yes.
[1:33:10] When this was being proposed, because they had
[1:33:12] been restaurants and commercial type of operations
[1:33:15] that did provide some access.
[1:33:17] So this change does guarantee that public access
[1:33:21] that some people really were concerned about.
[1:33:25] So thank you for that comment.
[1:33:28] All right, Mr. Kassa Bianca, Richard,
[1:33:34] You need to unmute Richard?
[1:33:39] Well, there we are. Okay. Jay, I had the same question you did, like who would be the go-to person at two in the morning?
[1:33:45] And Greg, I think he answered that pretty well.
[1:33:48] And briefly, if the impacts are the same, the tax revenue is the same.
[1:33:54] And if altering that use gives the whole area a kind of one purpose integrity,
[1:34:02] It's fine with me, I don't think there's a lot to discuss here, really.
[1:34:08] Okay.
[1:34:09] Thank you, Richard.
[1:34:10] Thanks.
[1:34:13] Is there anyone else?
[1:34:14] No other hands.
[1:34:16] Greg, just one question for you, and I sort of hated it this earlier.
[1:34:22] You know, the community has lived with the canoe place in, first, when it was a nightclub,
[1:34:29] was problematic. And then it was equally if not more problematic as a blighted hotel,
[1:34:38] former hotel and disrepair for many, many, many years. And you have, I know, invested significantly
[1:34:45] to bring it back. And I think most of the committee wants to see it succeed. A 25-year-old hotel
[1:34:54] And I sort of grew up in the hotel business.
[1:34:57] And not a lot of ropes to support a banquet hall
[1:35:00] restaurant.
[1:35:02] So I don't think anybody wants to see you fail there.
[1:35:06] So is that part of the thinking,
[1:35:08] is that the converting of the boat house
[1:35:10] is to part of the hotel is actually
[1:35:12] going to make the canoe place in the success
[1:35:17] more likely to happen so that we don't end up 20 years
[1:35:22] for now a 30 years from now with the hotel
[1:35:24] that becomes a problem for the community
[1:35:27] as some hotels have in the past?
[1:35:31] Yeah, absolutely.
[1:35:32] I mean, that was really the original thinking.
[1:35:35] You know, we started with two projects, right?
[1:35:38] It was the rehabilitation of the in
[1:35:43] as an original like Cicolid or the Old Gow.
[1:35:46] And you know, at the original in the early onset,
[1:35:49] was really just bringing it physically back to shape and having it, you know, function as an
[1:35:55] in with some catering and food and beverage. But as Mitch and I really got into the meat and
[1:36:03] bones of the property and the project, we realized that there's so much more to do for the property
[1:36:10] and for the community by really investing significantly more than what we intended. I would say
[1:36:17] We're investing six times the amount of what we originally thought we were going to invest in this property.
[1:36:24] And it's not just the Brits and Mortar and, you know, you know, the beautiful finishes,
[1:36:29] but it's also the staffing that needs to go with that in order to run a high-end hospitality property.
[1:36:39] And as you know, Jay being in the hospitality business, it's hard to support that kind of infrastructure with 25 rooms.
[1:36:46] And by, and, you know, Mitch and I quite literally, you know, kind of stood at the
[1:36:51] new place, properties, and we really need to add scale to make this really work at the
[1:36:58] highest level that we wanted to, and to create something special.
[1:37:01] And we kind of just looked across the canal and said, there it is, right?
[1:37:05] And by incorporating these two properties, you know, as, you know, as, you know, as this does
[1:37:10] iterations during the original process, it gives us that ability to use the scale for 37 townhomes
[1:37:18] to hire the, you know, the quality, staff, and, you know, to run both properties and make them both
[1:37:27] successful. And I really believe that this will be...
[1:37:30] The most desirable, you know, successful hospitality experience, you know, on the east end. And I'm like really proud that it's happening right here in hemp the base. So, yes, I mean, without a doubt, there's a financial viability by that is added by combining the two properties. But it's going to really, I think, you know, culturally be a really important, you know,
[1:37:56] Could you sort of cater your operations at the hotel to the shorter transient stays on the west side of the canal and because of the units at the both houses are significantly larger?
[1:38:10] To have like a multi-night minimum in general, so you don't have the constant turn over there.
[1:38:15] And like, you know, as was the idea, it's at the other day, it's all the timing and the season, it's the market, it's what people need.
[1:38:24] What I will say is, you know, we really have built a tremendous infrastructure, for example.
[1:38:31] I mean, the kitchen in, you know, in the new place and, you know, it's probably larger
[1:38:36] than any restaurant that, you know, any of us have been to, you know, you know, you know, on the east end.
[1:38:42] So, you know, I think, you know, like everything else in the, you need, you know, market flexibility.
[1:38:48] You can't, you can't really understand it.
[1:38:50] with the larger units on the west, on the east side of the canal, they would lend themselves to
[1:38:56] longer stays. Yeah, and that most likely will happen at certain periods, right? I think, you know,
[1:39:03] certainly, you know, in like July and August, you can really see people wanting to stay there for
[1:39:08] two, you know, for one, two, three, four weeks at a time. And that, you know, that is, you know,
[1:39:12] but again, it's really market-driven, like we can't pre-vester a minute, but yeah.
[1:39:16] All right. All right. Any other questions? We're back to the board. Oh, there was one other
[1:39:22] texted question. I guess I couldn't wait late if I can find it. Somebody who has been spoken.
[1:39:29] It
[1:39:31] was at hermit, right? Would the sidewalk mentioned at the north end of the town houses run
[1:39:38] parallel to the Long Island railroad on the south side of the tracks? Once it meets with north
[1:39:46] road will live extend toward North Road and to the Chinacop Canal. Concern is the road is quite narrow
[1:39:52] under the Long Island overpass. Will the tall trees which were removed and error be replaced
[1:39:59] along the Long Island, error?
[1:40:03] Anybody understand any of that?
[1:40:06] A little tough to follow, but I'm hoping Janus can help.
[1:40:09] I would just say that the sidewalks that were required as part of the PDD have been installed
[1:40:15] all to the extent that they will be there. After that, it's really beyond, you know, that's
[1:40:20] a different off-site improvement that I would not, you know, it's not really, you know, the town,
[1:40:27] it's really a county road also, so that's the other thing there at that location. But the idea would be
[1:40:35] that you can walk through the site onto the new sidewalks on North Road and continue on to sort of
[1:40:45] location, and then you're still once again going under the sunrise highway, and you're on that
[1:40:52] strip where there's benches, et cetera, a long-licinicoc canal, and then you can walk down
[1:40:57] that canal road over to Michelle, the county park there. So that connection is there.
[1:41:07] Greg,
[1:41:07] I don't know if there's this question for you, but when I was there, we discussed where the public
[1:41:14] access would be in on the southern portion of the votehouse property. There is a section of
[1:41:23] a dock, boardwalk that is literally you have water on both sides. That would be wonderful
[1:41:32] as a, and I think you indicated that that could be part of this, this easement. But that is directly
[1:41:40] not over your land, it's over the county land. But I think the county has already granted it
[1:41:47] an easement or consented to an easement over that property. Do you know what I'm talking about?
[1:41:54] Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I don't think that's not on site. That's off site. And on the other side
[1:42:06] of the MTA property and the county has granted an easement over that. I haven't seen it, but I believe
[1:42:15] Kathleen is aware that she's not here now. But that is separate and apart from what we're
[1:42:21] doing here. I'm talking about along the boat house property, along the boat house property
[1:42:28] on the the southern end of it, there's a walk a walkway that has water on both sides of it.
[1:42:38] That's going to be that's a that is a flowing dock floating, floating dock, right, and that's going to be connected at both ends.
[1:42:46] Yeah, yeah, that's where connected. So you can walk onto that and continue walking. Right.
[1:42:52] And originally wasn't going to be part of the publication, but it is now. And my question is,
[1:42:57] And I'm thrilled about that because that's sort of the best spot, I think, for fishing.
[1:43:06] But that isn't the water underneath it.
[1:43:09] It's not your property.
[1:43:11] That's county property there.
[1:43:12] I think I believe that is our property.
[1:43:15] I believe that is our property.
[1:43:17] If I may go ahead.
[1:43:19] Yeah.
[1:43:21] That's a part of owning the repairs, owning the rights to a water is a repairing
[1:43:27] right to work out and to use that. And that that doc has been committed by I believe
[1:43:32] chip knows that that's been committed by I'm a core of mentioned here.
[1:43:36] Yeah, we have all the necessary permits for that. It's not a question of ownership of the land under
[1:43:41] the water, it's a question of being able to work out and use that section adjacent to your
[1:43:46] upland, which this means and we have permits.
[1:43:50] All right, so we're going to be able to explain, you know, the easement over those permits and that
[1:43:56] And then I might add also the newest benefit here is also that public viewing platform where you can go up to a platform and it's spectacular views and then go out along through the side and on to the sidewalk. I mean, that's technically private property and they're granting that easements.
[1:44:13] That's a broader portion of the property. I was talking about another portion.
[1:44:17] Yeah, the part that runs literally over the Chinatown Canal, but I do think the county
[1:44:24] owns the underwater lands there, but I think that the legislatures already agreed to
[1:44:30] an easement through there. So I think we're okay. Let's my understanding.
[1:44:36] That's correct.
[1:44:38] All right. Any other questions from the board?
[1:44:43] I have one question I wanted to or I don't know who's talking right now.
[1:44:49] It's guide your model.
[1:44:50] Oh, I see you.
[1:44:51] Can you see?
[1:44:52] Ashley's for Janice and or there was a in the call.
[1:45:00] The change of the change that was requested. I think there was a paraphrase left the parenthetical left out, and we had asked if that would be put back in, genesis, or something like that.
[1:45:13] Yes, yes, I was working at that. That was inadvertently left off. It's nothing that substantive, and that would be added on the copy that's then circulated to the word phrase any kind of thought.
[1:45:24] Great. Thank you. Just like that.
[1:45:25] And that is just under eight B. It's just, it says, unless otherwise managed by the
[1:45:31] community, please in as the way that should end. And I did send that to the board as a memo
[1:45:36] and a correction. So now, um, talking about it on the record, it will, and then it will be
[1:45:41] in final form. Uh, it will include that. Great. Thank you.
[1:45:47] Janice, in terms of the secret, I know we have a walk on resolution later today related to this in
[1:45:53] of coordinating secret. But as we have to now debate what we're doing in terms of closing the hearing,
[1:46:02] the secret is not complete, is that correct? That's right. Just looking at it today,
[1:46:09] realize, you know, you better off, it's an unlisted action. You could do an uncoordinated review.
[1:46:15] We, speaking of the town attorney's office, we agreed. Since it's an expanded EFF, the best
[1:46:19] that would just to do a coordinated secret review,
[1:46:22] fill the entity you're coordinating with is the planning board.
[1:46:25] They will have comments for you.
[1:46:27] We're putting it on their February 10th.
[1:46:29] And yeah, February 10th agenda.
[1:46:33] And so there's still, so in any case,
[1:46:36] you'd want to leave the record open at least for that much time,
[1:46:38] so that you can get those planning board comments in.
[1:46:41] And then, you know, I don't think they're going to want to take
[1:46:45] lead agency for a view making legislative changes,
[1:46:48] But at least then you'll have their comments, and then once we have everything can complete the secret review.
[1:46:59] So I guess the question that is, do we adjourn the public hearing?
[1:47:06] You can close it with Tom and period I would just ask that it's, say, you know, two weeks would be the eighth.
[1:47:13] That's 14, 16 days would be the 10th, which they would have there, you know, that their meeting and be able to provide you with calm, you know, written comments.
[1:47:24] If I may, just in case some of those comments, I don't anticipate they will, but just in case some of those comments come back that require further conversation you may just want to keep it over just for that additional two weeks.
[1:47:35] That next meeting, just say you're able to talk about it, should you have to.
[1:47:38] Yeah, I almost feel like we ought to leave the oral record open as well, just because I don't know that we're in final form yet, and I don't want that to be any issues because we haven't completed the secret.
[1:47:55] There would only be issues to the extent that the law is in sufficient form will form to be circulated and that's all fine from that standpoint, but just to the extent that there may be issues with secret that would require further substantive changes.
[1:48:10] You could still have time to argue if you wanted to discuss it amongst the board members.
[1:48:14] And you know, when you fold the board,
[1:48:17] just do you want to just leave the written record open
[1:48:21] or what do you suggest in Genesis two weeks or
[1:48:25] I would leave it open. Well, at least the next your next meeting is February 8
[1:48:31] and the next word, planning board is the 10th. So if you close the record
[1:48:36] two weeks, then you don't capture that time for the
[1:48:40] I would come and so even if you just did three weeks, that would be fine
[1:48:43] because then we can put another resolution on for the next meeting for the 20 seconds.
[1:48:48] So I would say three weeks is more than sufficient.
[1:48:52] So we could leave the record open for written comments for three weeks.
[1:48:56] But did the board, does the board also want to leave the hearing open for speakers that come back again?
[1:49:07] I'm in favor of the three-week close hearing and go and leave the written comment open for three weeks.
[1:49:15] Rick, what's your thinking?
[1:49:17] Yeah, thank you.
[1:49:19] Thank you.
[1:49:20] I'll grab that.
[1:49:21] Tommy John?
[1:49:26] Yes.
[1:49:27] Okay.
[1:49:27] And no one else is indicating that they want to be heard today, right, Charles?
[1:49:34] I see all of this.
[1:49:36] All right.
[1:49:36] So the supervisor, the written record will then be left open until February 15th.
[1:49:45] Okay.
[1:49:46] All right.
[1:49:46] So I will make a motion to close the public hearing and leave the written record open till February 15th.
[1:49:53] Seconded by Councilman Bovier, all in favor.
[1:49:56] All right.
[1:49:57] All right.
[1:49:58] All right.
[1:49:58] Thank you all.
[1:49:59] Thank you.
[1:50:01] Thank you.
[1:50:01] Thank you.
[1:50:02] So we're going to go on a great afternoon.
[1:50:04] We're going to greet everybody.
[1:50:06] Thank you.
[1:50:07] We've got to go to public portion, and I'd like to take a very patient,
[1:50:14] a presenter who's been awaiting now for two hours to speak.
[1:50:19] This is Eric is here, and Eric, I know, is going to speak on a resolution.
[1:50:25] As before, you're at on the resolution number here,
[1:50:28] dealing with the definition of antisemitism.
[1:50:31] So, all right, thank you so much for your patience and I look forward to your comments.
[1:50:41] Thank you.
[1:50:42] Am I visible?
[1:50:43] Yes.
[1:50:44] Oh, great.
[1:50:46] So thank you, supervisor Schneiderman.
[1:50:50] My name is Eric Post, I'm the Regional Director of the American Jewish Committee.
[1:50:53] And on behalf of our president, Arnie Hurz, and Southampton Town Residence, and EGC Long Island Board members, Robin Long, Ron Klausner, and how we live in.
[1:51:04] We thank very thankful to you, supervisor, and the Town of Southampton Board for considering adoption of the non-legly binding international Holocaust remembrance alliance or IRA working definition of anti-Semitism, which is the global and domestic authority of definition of anti-Semitism.
[1:51:22] As we all know, our community has been shaken once again by last week's hostage taking
[1:51:27] a congregation Beth Israel and Callieville, Texas.
[1:51:30] This follows the deadliest and bysemitic assault in America's history and Pittsburgh's
[1:51:34] Tribal life congregation two years ago, deadliest assaults in Poe, California, Jersey City
[1:51:39] and close to home here in Munstie, upstate New York.
[1:51:42] We also saw the spike in infysemitic hate around the May Hamas initiated conflict with Israel
[1:51:47] where a young Jewish man was beaten in time square, and diners at a restaurant in Los Angeles were asked if they were Jewish and subsequently attacked amongst many other incidents completing American Jews in Israel.
[1:52:00] The working definition is a clear and compact description of anti-Semitism in its various forms.
[1:52:04] If you are in campus, just call a cost in a mail,
[1:52:06] I want to encourage this to the digital community,
[1:52:08] and the digital city, and the digital MLB business.
[1:52:10] The NEP definition can be used to determine
[1:52:12] whether an incident is anti-symmetic,
[1:52:14] and is an educational tool,
[1:52:16] adoption of the definitions and some message
[1:52:18] that governments understand the thread of anti-symmetism
[1:52:20] which is the first step in addressing it.
[1:52:23] The iron working definition
[1:52:24] has been adopted by three successive US presidents.
[1:52:28] Nearly 40 farm nations.
[1:52:30] Multinational bodies. It is also being adopted countrywide by municipalities. A G.C. Long Island has successfully worked with
[1:52:37] Ness on Suffolk counties. The towns of Huntington, Babylon, Hemsett, North Hemsett, Oyster Bay, and several smaller towns
[1:52:44] in adopting the definition. Notably, last week, the United Nations recognized the definition in the unanimous
[1:52:50] vote, whereby they also condemned Holocaust denial and revisionism. We're living in that time with more
[1:52:56] standing and identification of anti-Semitism is urgently needed. According to AGC's just released
[1:53:01] an October 2021 State of Anti-Semitism in America report, 9 in 10 American Jews believe
[1:53:07] anti-Semitism is a problem in America today. Well, only 6 in 10 in the general public believe
[1:53:12] anti-Semitism is a problem, a 30-point difference. The need for education and awareness is tremendous
[1:53:18] adopting the IRA definition is a great step in the right direction, and we thank you again
[1:53:22] of your consideration.
[1:53:24] But we'll thank you, Eric.
[1:53:26] Again, thank you for your patience.
[1:53:28] And we also, Christine Scholarer,
[1:53:30] who worked on the resolution.
[1:53:32] This is just, so the board knows
[1:53:35] it's on page 49, it's resolution 109 of 2022.
[1:53:41] And it is a policy resolution,
[1:53:44] which is not something you typically see.
[1:53:46] So as you say, it's an educational tool
[1:53:49] and a guidance tool.
[1:53:50] Christine, did you want to want to say anything about this and then with the board if they have
[1:53:56] any questions for Eric?
[1:54:00] You are muted. Sorry, just if anybody has any questions, I think it's pretty
[1:54:05] self-explanatory and it is a policy resolution and that it can be as any questions.
[1:54:12] So basically provides guidance to us for determining if something reaches the threshold of an
[1:54:19] automatic act. All right. We are in public portion. We don't usually go back and forth, but while
[1:54:29] Eric is here, there's anybody have any questions. I am going to ask to take this out of order,
[1:54:35] so when we debate it, Eric can be present and not make him wait for another hour or two.
[1:54:41] I don't have a question, but Eric, I did want to thank you for all you're doing in the organization.
[1:54:50] It's going through some really strange times and I just, you know, I hear about what your organization does quite often and I don't just want to say thank you personally, thank you for everything.
[1:55:03] All right.
[1:55:04] So very much.
[1:55:05] Yeah.
[1:55:06] So we have to.
[1:55:07] All right.
[1:55:07] Thank you.
[1:55:08] Our appeals stick around.
[1:55:11] I'm going to try to get this voted on in a minute here.
[1:55:14] So first I have to see if there's anybody else for public portion.
[1:55:19] Charles.
[1:55:21] So it were in public portion if somebody wants to be heard on any issue.
[1:55:27] Anything you want to bring to the board's attention.
[1:55:30] Yeah.
[1:55:30] Do have one.
[1:55:31] Okay.
[1:55:32] I'm good at this.
[1:55:35] I'm going to open my view somewhere.
[1:55:38] I think that I don't know where that is.
[1:55:50] I've heard this coming back.
[1:55:52] Okay.
[1:55:55] What should you have done to you?
[1:56:00] Can you hear me out?
[1:56:01] Yes, Richard.
[1:56:04] This is not something I was going to talk about right now, but I.
[1:56:07] Here goes.
[1:56:09] It was interesting that I follow that last fellow who was talking about.
[1:56:16] They call it term population that's historically been underrepresented and or under attack, right?
[1:56:23] So what I want to talk about right now are the Chinacock.
[1:56:27] And what's on my mind is a kind of healing and a kind of resolution of our historical upset with them,
[1:56:38] right? By way of brief background, my mother's family would have been one of the first ones off
[1:56:44] boat, you know, off from Lynn Massachusetts in the 6th and late 1639 and whatever the hell they got here.
[1:56:49] And if it wasn't for the Chinacock apparently they wouldn't have made it through the winter.
[1:56:53] So I have that on my mind.
[1:56:55] The other thing I have on my mind is my family was once the victim of imbezzlement and fraud.
[1:57:03] And what was lost has, in a painful way, really reverberated across the couple of generations.
[1:57:09] So I kind of a little bit identify with their situation there, meaning I gather that property was essentially stolen from them in the late 1850s, whether or not there's a legal mechanism to remedy that now or not, I don't know, but apparently not.
[1:57:32] that doesn't mean, however, that there isn't still the possibility for some sort of just or moral
[1:57:39] way of handling it, of redeeming the situation even all these many years later. On that,
[1:57:46] I got to thinking that if I were a member of the tribe that I would be pretty galled every time
[1:57:54] the CPF collects a 2% transfer tax. And I was wondering, just wondering, if that land within the
[1:58:03] disputed boundary of the 1859 theft and measurement, whatever fraud that happened, if that land could be
[1:58:12] essentially alienated from the CPF collection and or if the 2% that's collected there could
[1:58:19] be sent to the tribe or part of it sent to the tribe and the point of all of this thinking is that
[1:58:27] I don't really think that there's a way to cure or to remedy such a rupture and offset unless you
[1:58:35] get at it right at the very source of the issue and if the very source of the issue is the land
[1:58:42] in those boundaries,
[1:58:47] look there for a solution and it's
[1:58:49] top into my head and I've mentioned that heading number of people and it strikes that occurs to people
[1:58:54] as obvious just in relatively simple things to do, relatively simple.
[1:59:01] So I wanted to put that out there. I have spoken to a couple of people on the
[1:59:05] reservation about it and I spoke of just average people and everyone like I said seems to think
[1:59:11] there's some wisdom in this approach. And because, again, to repeat myself, you never quite,
[1:59:19] I don't think that anything is ever going to quite quail the upset, the way, with any other approach,
[1:59:29] except to get right out to have the lead that was taken, then start to provide a return now.
[1:59:39] is there anything like that that's possible? I leave it to you to think about. I wanted to drop it in your heads.
[1:59:46] Thank you, Richard.
[1:59:48] Okay.
[1:59:52] Is there anyone else who wish to be heard in public portion?
[1:59:58] No other hands.
[2:00:00] All right. I will make a motion to close public portion.
[2:00:08] I can't buy councilwoman, McNamara. All in favor.
[2:00:15] Public portion is closed. We'll get to the agenda. I'd like to make a motion to take resolution 109 of 2022.
[2:00:23] that found on page 49 out of order.
[2:00:28] Second minute by councilman Bovier.
[2:00:32] All of favor.
[2:00:35] All right.
[2:00:36] So I'd like to now make a motion to approve resolution 109 of 2022.
[2:00:44] Second.
[2:00:46] Seconded by councilman Bovier.
[2:00:49] And Eric, I do appreciate you being present and the work that you've been doing.
[2:00:53] I want to also thank Robin Long, who's a member of our planning board for bringing this to my attention and the work that she's been doing with AJC.
[2:01:08] I wish something like this wasn't needed or wasn't important, but unfortunately it is.
[2:01:15] And I think this will really be a helpful instrument for us in the future and that is why I think a lot of areas are adopting this definition.
[2:01:28] So, it's pretty self-explanatory, but if anybody has any questions, there's some examples within it, which again help clarify for people what an act of anti-Semitic discrimination.
[2:01:47] So, anybody have any questions on it?
[2:01:52] Comments?
[2:01:55] All right.
[2:01:56] I will call the vote.
[2:01:59] All in favor?
[2:02:01] All right.
[2:02:01] All right.
[2:02:02] Any opposed to look unanimously?
[2:02:05] Okay.
[2:02:06] So, the resolution is approved.
[2:02:09] Thank you, supervisor.
[2:02:10] Thank you, council members.
[2:02:11] We appreciate it.
[2:02:12] We look forward to next steps.
[2:02:14] Thank you.
[2:02:15] All right,
[2:02:18] so now we're going to go to the top of the agenda.
[2:02:24] So we still have very important here from the first.
[2:02:32] I see that and that is not something we're able to vote on today.
[2:02:39] I don't know, I'm talking about in the afternoon.
[2:02:43] I see that.
[2:02:51] I guess he was enjoying the meeting.
[2:02:56] I guess he was enjoying the meeting.
[2:03:01] That's fine.
[2:03:04] Now we're at resolution number 52, so I'm on page 3.
[2:03:09] Resolution 52 of 2022, this will authorize the office supply purchases from staples using source swell contract.
[2:03:20] Second.
[2:03:22] Second, my council member, town, all in favor.
[2:03:25] Hi.
[2:03:27] Improve.
[2:03:29] Town board resolution 53 of 2022 authorized purchase of heavy duty parts, sterling Mac,
[2:03:35] Ford Kenworth and Peter Bell from Gabrielle Trucksale's limited using the Suffolk County contract.
[2:03:42] Second. Seconded by Councilman Skivone on favor.
[2:03:48] I proved.
[2:03:50] Town board resolution 54 of 2022 authorized purchases from Tres and Cooperated using the Suffolk County
[2:03:57] contracts. Second, that could be by Councilman Bovier, all of favor?
[2:04:03] Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
[2:04:06] Councilman Bovier, Board resolution 55 of 2022, I'll press the Supervisor to execute an agreement with
[2:04:12] the near-knaps. We will ask him to cooperate.
[2:04:15] Second. Seconded by Councilman Bovier, all of favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.
[2:04:25] If you want a second it helps us to say second. I'll try to see if you just put your hand up, but it's as easy for me if you say it as well.
[2:04:35] of 56 of 2022 authorized supervisor to sign
[2:04:39] BPP with Toshiba or copy machine
[2:04:42] from Eastern Suffolk, Bosie's Conqueror.
[2:04:46] Second, seconded by Councilman Scrivonio,
[2:04:49] there, I approved, 57 of 2022,
[2:04:54] authorized the continuation of online subscription services
[2:04:58] and publications by Compton Reuters for 2022.
[2:05:05] Second, seconded by Councilman Mark Talwell,
[2:05:07] on favor. Hi. Hi. Hi.
[2:05:10] Group approved in 2022. Authorize the purchase of auto park and accessories from U.S.
[2:05:17] communities contract with advanced auto park.
[2:05:22] That can. So I can do my counselor's schedule on favor.
[2:05:26] Hi. I approve.
[2:05:29] 59 of 2022. This is co-sponsored with the entire board. It authorizes the purchase of
[2:05:36] management services from New York State contract with automotive rentals in corporate.
[2:05:42] That's good.
[2:05:43] Seconded by Councilman Bovier, all in favor.
[2:05:47] All right, I approve.
[2:05:50] Have board resolution 60 of 2022, co-sponsored with Councilman Bovier,
[2:05:55] authorized the purchase of road salt from the New York State OGS contract with its
[2:05:59] and it's all been cooperated.
[2:06:02] Thank you.
[2:06:02] Seconded by Councilor Bovier, Oatham.
[2:06:08] Approved.
[2:06:10] 61 of 22, what the rise of purchase of tires
[2:06:14] from the Suffolk County contract
[2:06:16] with Barnwell House of Tires?
[2:06:20] Seconded by Councilor Mark Talon, Faire.
[2:06:24] Approved.
[2:06:25] Town Board Resolution 62 of 2022, co-sponsored with Catherine Baudier, authorized to supervise
[2:06:33] it to execute 2022 Stewardship Agreements with Maureen Stafford, Linda DeCaprio and Patricia
[2:06:39] Obey to provide custodian services at Barry's parks within the town.
[2:06:44] Okay.
[2:06:46] I can go back to Councilman Bovie on Fever.
[2:06:49] Hi.
[2:06:49] Hi.
[2:06:50] Approved.
[2:06:52] Town Board Resolution 63 of 2022.
[2:06:55] Authorize the supervisor to execute a 2022.
[2:06:59] Park District Grant Agreement with the Hampton Base Historical and Preservation Society.
[2:07:06] Seconded by Councilwoman McNamara on Fever.
[2:07:11] Hi.
[2:07:12] Hi.
[2:07:12] Hi.
[2:07:14] downboard resolution 64 of 2022 authorized to supervise and to execute a 2022 park district grant
[2:07:21] with half the base beautification association for the maintenance and upkeep of the main street business district.
[2:07:30] Seconded by Councilor McNamara, all in favour?
[2:07:33] All right. All right. And what a great job they do.
[2:07:37] Now, the resolution 65 of 2022, authorized to supervise and execute a 2022 park district grant
[2:07:45] with the Watermel Village Improvement Association for the beautification and cultural development
[2:07:50] of the Watermel Hamlet Center.
[2:07:55] Seconded by Councilor McNamara.
[2:07:56] Tony Olfever.
[2:07:58] Hi.
[2:07:59] Hi.
[2:08:00] Let's move.
[2:08:02] There's a Downboard Resolution 66 of 2022, authorizes the Supervisor of Executor 2022
[2:08:08] Park District Grant with Watermel Community Club to the beautification and cultural
[2:08:13] development of the Watermel Community Club.
[2:08:21] Second, everybody.
[2:08:22] Tony.
[2:08:24] Olfever.
[2:08:26] Hi.
[2:08:26] Hi.
[2:08:29] downboard resolution 67 of 2022 authorized to supervise an executed 2022 park district grant with
[2:08:37] what a mill museum for the maintenance and upkeep of the water mill museum.
[2:08:43] That can.
[2:08:45] Thank you to my Council and for the aid, Oldfair.
[2:08:48] Hi.
[2:08:49] Hi approved.
[2:08:51] Count board resolution 68 of 2022, while the rise of supervisor to execute a 2022
[2:08:57] parking district grant with Hampton Bay's beautification associations for the maintenance and
[2:09:02] upkeep of the Main Street, Business District District and Public Parking areas.
[2:09:08] Second, I'm going to add my council on the Macamara, all of there.
[2:09:13] I approve 2022-69 authorized Supervisor to execute a contract extension with Quad
[2:09:21] St. Claire for supply of number two full fuel oil service and repair.
[2:09:29] Second, I'm going to add my council on the more fell, all of there.
[2:09:34] Number 70 of 22 authorizes a supervisor to execute and indemnification and hold harmless letter for the Riverhead Central School District for a youth bureau basketball program.
[2:09:46] going to be at Ludlamab in New Park.
[2:09:51] Second, second by council.
[2:09:53] More cow, all favors.
[2:09:55] High five.
[2:09:56] Approved.
[2:09:57] 71 of 22 authorizes the supervisor to sign
[2:10:00] by 2022 agreement with
[2:10:03] Munestack Services.
[2:10:08] Seconded by council.
[2:10:10] Woman, Nectomer, all in favor.
[2:10:13] High.
[2:10:14] Approved.
[2:10:14] Now board resolution 72 of 2022, authorized to supervise or assign it 2022, Bridgeampton Park District Grant Agreement with the Bridgeampton Museum.
[2:10:26] Second.
[2:10:28] Seconded by Council and Steve O'Neill's favorite.
[2:10:32] Hi.
[2:10:33] My group.
[2:10:39] 73 of 2022 authorized to supervise and assign a contract amendment with Nelson Pope and four he's LLC.
[2:10:45] The connection with the preparation of a supplemental generic environmental impact statement
[2:10:52] SGIS for the proposed Riverside Sewage Treatment Plant, Hamlet of Riverside.
[2:11:00] Seconded by Council Musquivoni, all in favour?
[2:11:04] Hi.
[2:11:07] Prove
[2:11:11] 74 of 2022, authorized a supervisor to sign and amendment to the lease agreement for 38
[2:11:19] little planes for
[2:11:23] a decade.
[2:11:25] Seconded by Councillor SQVONI, all the favor.
[2:11:30] Hi.
[2:11:31] Prove 75 of 22 award and authorized supervisor to sign contract for banners and signs.
[2:11:40] Seconded by Councilor McNamara Old Fever, my approved.
[2:11:47] Count Board Resolution 76 of 2022, post-spots with Councilman's give-only, award-in-authorized
[2:11:54] supervisor, shine contracts for sub-acreus, water-mane proceeds, Chinnaka Canala, Meshad Beach,
[2:11:59] and Pompag Bridge at Lighthouse Road.
[2:12:03] Seconded by Councilman's give-only Old Fever, my, my, my, my, my.
[2:12:09] And what resolution 77 of 2022 to recall in an end time of what resolution 2021, 1100 purchase of construction services from renew contract thing and restoration services using Bay Shorting Free School District contract.
[2:12:26] April 10th in community house.
[2:12:29] For its restoration.
[2:12:33] Second.
[2:12:35] Second, my council member, Michelle, on favor.
[2:12:39] I approve.
[2:12:42] Tell Board resolution 78 at 22.
[2:12:45] Recall in a man town board resolution 2021.
[2:12:48] There's 1165 with Thompson Reuters.
[2:12:51] Use of the clear plus web analytics program for the town code enforcement department.
[2:12:57] Second.
[2:12:58] Second.
[2:12:59] by a councilman's give-on.
[2:13:02] All in favour?
[2:13:04] Aye.
[2:13:04] Aye.
[2:13:05] Approved.
[2:13:07] Downboard resolution 79 of 2022.
[2:13:09] The 2022 notice to bidders from purchase of two Ford F350 trucks for the highway department.
[2:13:19] Is there a second?
[2:13:20] Second.
[2:13:21] Second of my councilman's give-on.
[2:13:23] All in favour?
[2:13:26] Aye.
[2:13:27] Aye.
[2:13:27] All right, Cindy, you're first here, right?
[2:13:29] Aye.
[2:13:29] Time for a Resolution 80 of 2022.
[2:13:32] 2022, the notice to corrosion is RFP.
[2:13:35] A license agreement, the operation of a boat-purposing shop,
[2:13:39] and fuel station at conscious point Marina.
[2:13:43] Seconded by Councilman Kovia, all in favor.
[2:13:47] All right.
[2:13:48] All right.
[2:13:49] Approved.
[2:13:50] 81 of 2022, allocation of 2022,
[2:13:56] ARPA's coronavirus federal grant.
[2:14:00] Second, seconded by Councilman BoVA.
[2:14:07] Let's just take a quick look here.
[2:14:13] West Hampton Beach Community Center.
[2:14:16] We'll get $750,000.
[2:14:21] The Flanders building, that's where head start is,
[2:14:27] where the Children's Museum is going, we'll get $659,000.
[2:14:46] right I will I made the motion is there was a second right all in favour
[2:14:52] hi hi
[2:14:54] 0
[2:14:55] 0
[2:14:55] 0
[2:15:00] The budget for town police for special events, seconded by Councillor Pony, roll, favor.
[2:15:09] I approve 83 of 2022, a man's the 2021 budget for various departments, housekeeping resolution, seconded by Councillor
[2:15:24] I approve 2022-84, men's the 2022 adopted budget for town controllers.
[2:15:34] Well,
[2:15:39] it's the part-time salaries.
[2:15:41] We're seconded by Councilman Bovier, was that correct?
[2:15:46] Bovier was Councilman Bovier.
[2:15:47] Everyone.
[2:15:48] Everyone.
[2:15:50] Who's seconded?
[2:15:52] Councillor for Labour.
[2:15:53] Councillor for that.
[2:15:54] OK, all of them.
[2:15:56] All right.
[2:15:58] All right.
[2:16:00] 1222-85, amend the 2022 adopted budget for the Windsor Heart Project.
[2:16:08] Seconded by Councilman Martele, this is adding 5,000.
[2:16:13] We'll be fully paid for the hard Sales,
[2:16:15] and we'll also generate quite a bit of money
[2:16:19] for the health center at the out-of-hand in this.
[2:16:26] All right, so as motion and second, all of favor.
[2:16:29] I proved there was just, you know, some modification in the design
[2:16:34] that added just a little bit to the cost of the construction.
[2:16:39] All right, 86 of 2022, men's the 2022 budget
[2:16:44] and authorized highway fund pays you go for purchase of trucks.
[2:16:50] Second. Seconded by Councilman Mark Tau, all in favour?
[2:16:54] Aye. Aye. Aye.
[2:16:55] Approved 87 of 2022.
[2:17:02] I want to raise closure of capital projects.
[2:17:08] I'll need a second. Seconded by Councilman McNamara, all in favour?
[2:17:13] Aye. Aye. Approved 88 of 22 deposit monies into Esfuro,
[2:17:19] account for professional services connection with the NRP, Southampton, MFP, RD, change of zone application.
[2:17:27] That way.
[2:17:28] Second, by Council of Liberia, all the favour?
[2:17:32] All right.
[2:17:33] Approved.
[2:17:34] Number 89 of 2022.
[2:17:41] Reappoint John Watson to the Board of Assessment Review.
[2:17:48] Second.
[2:17:50] Seconded by Councilman Tsukivoni Olfever, I approve,
[2:18:00] we thank John for his service.
[2:18:04] Number 90 of 2022, reappoints three members, three points members to the conservation board,
[2:18:13] or two year terms, sunshine gums, Harry Ludlow and Tom Rickenback.
[2:18:19] Seconded by Councilman, above EA, all in favor.
[2:18:23] My former board, former board, former board.
[2:18:29] Let's true.
[2:18:31] Number 91 of 2022, appoints Harry Ludlow chair of the Conservation Board for 2022.
[2:18:40] Seconded by Councilman, above EA, all in favor.
[2:18:45] Just on those last two, I wanted to thank Harry for agreeing to serve again. He does a terrific job as chair and I want to thank those three members for
[2:18:56] will continue to give their time for that board.
[2:19:00] We're up to 92 and 22,
[2:19:03] we appoint members of members to the landmarks
[2:19:07] and historic district board.
[2:19:10] Second, second, it's for Timothy Janettis,
[2:19:15] Martha Green and Victoria Con.
[2:19:18] These are three year terms.
[2:19:21] They're all there.
[2:19:22] I approve number 93 of 2022,
[2:19:33] a point Edward was Napski, was Napski chair of the landmarks
[2:19:40] and historic district board for 2022. Seconded by Councilman Bovia, just on the motion.
[2:19:48] I think most of us are familiar with the work at his been doing. He's been coming to this board with reports on numerous candidates for historic landmark, landmark designation.
[2:20:03] I think he's doing a phenomenal job, and I think we're lucky to have him as our chair.
[2:20:09] So I'll let go of that sentiment and you know, it's a joy working with them. They're very thorough and do a fantastic job. I think we are very lucky.
[2:20:21] I've been learning a little bit about our history. So from his presentations.
[2:20:28] All right. So we had a motion. Second all in favor.
[2:20:31] I approve, all right, 94, 2022 appoint Stephanie Davis as vice chair of the landmarks in historic district boards for 2022.
[2:20:45] Second. Seconded by Councilman Bovier.
[2:20:49] Stephanie's also terrific. All in favor.
[2:20:53] I approve.
[2:20:55] He also serves on a water quality board as well. Does it does a great job?
[2:21:01] Thank you, John. She sure does.
[2:21:04] Our number 95 of 2022 appoints Dennis Finnerty vice chair,
[2:21:09] the planning board for 2022.
[2:21:12] Back next.
[2:21:13] Seconded Councilman Martell.
[2:21:17] All the favor.
[2:21:18] Hi.
[2:21:20] Approved.
[2:21:21] Number 96 of 2022.
[2:21:25] Re-appoints Florian Burke to the planning board.
[2:21:32] I'll second it by Councilman Bovier, all the favor.
[2:21:41] I'm sorry when we did we we got to then I got distracted on Dennis's resolution, but
[2:21:46] Dennis is a longstanding member of the playing board in former chair and I was by chair and
[2:21:55] we really appreciate the work that Dennis does and of course, glory on the on the planning board.
[2:22:00] All right. So I think I'll go that sentiment supervisor. It is a great for it. Again, pleasure working with them and yeah, just really good group of people.
[2:22:12] Thank you. These people give a tremendous amount of their time, tremendous amount of their time for the town and the community.
[2:22:22] So, all right, up to number 97 of 2022, this is to a point.
[2:22:30] I'm nearly to the planning board. This would be a four-year term, aspiring in December 31, 2025. Let me get a second first.
[2:22:42] I can, I can't remember. I think you all know Tom. He's worked for the town for many years. He's got a background in transportation.
[2:22:54] and before that I guess work with Anthony Jitney but it's been very involved with the local
[2:23:01] shuttle service but when he was with the town did a lot of the work on the type of issues
[2:23:07] we talked about earlier today like no stopping or no parking designations and things like that.
[2:23:13] I put his name forward because I believe he will be a good member of the planning board and provide
[2:23:18] of particular expertise that I think could really benefit that board.
[2:23:25] So I have a brief statement, I'd like to read if that's okay.
[2:23:28] Sure. So on the motion, Councilor Mechimer?
[2:23:32] First, I want to thank John Sikorelli for his many years of service to the town of South
[2:23:35] Hampton. Unfortunately, Mr. Sikorelli has term-limited out as pretty statute set forth
[2:23:40] from the town code, making him an eligible for re-appointment. On the appointment of
[2:23:45] to the Planning Board. I have worked with Mr. Nilee both at Hampton, Jimmy, and here at the
[2:23:50] Town. While I light Mr. Nilee personally, this is not a personal decision. Very recently
[2:23:56] the town board changed town code to allow a quorum to be held by a single party on land use
[2:24:02] boards. The code was also changed to preclude an individual from simultaneously serving
[2:24:08] our land use board and as an officer of a Southampton town political committee. The argument made
[2:24:15] during that public hearing for these changes
[2:24:17] was that while we shouldn't be limiting ourselves
[2:24:19] from appointing individuals
[2:24:21] based solely on their political affiliation,
[2:24:24] we also shouldn't be appointing highly political individuals.
[2:24:28] The fact that the appointment of Mr. Nielin to the planning board
[2:24:31] will result in a single party forum
[2:24:34] of highly political individuals troublesome.
[2:24:37] The average citizen knows their party affiliation
[2:24:40] as they have publicly campaigned together for years.
[2:24:43] given this fact, I do not think the appointment of Mr. Neily to the planning board at this time serves in the best interest of our community as a whole.
[2:24:55] All right, thank you.
[2:24:57] I just just one thing, because I also appreciate John took a really service, but John told me that he was done at the end of that year.
[2:25:07] He didn't want to come back.
[2:25:10] term limit at all. He said he did not wish to serve any longer. So I just want to make that clear.
[2:25:18] Even if there were no term limits, John had indicated he would like to do other things at this point.
[2:25:25] Anyone else on the motion?
[2:25:39] Sure.
[2:25:40] And the service at the town actually started with a planning department, so he does have a background in planning and I think he would be an excellent addition to the town board, so I will be supporting his nomination.
[2:25:56] Yeah, if I could, I agree with a lot of what Cindy says, you know, the further down the road, do we decide to go on these boards and you know the decision maybe made.
[2:26:07] You know politically more than who is the right person for me personally right now
[2:26:12] I believe Tom Nili is the right person for this board
[2:26:16] So I will be voting yes, but it does concern me of the makeup of this board down the road
[2:26:21] So that's something we should discuss
[2:26:23] You know between us down the road
[2:26:27] Now I appreciate that and you know I think the the sentiment that these boards be a political
[2:26:35] that they be bipartisan, that they be fair and balanced. I can't disagree with any of that.
[2:26:44] They must serve the public and they must do it in a unbiased way.
[2:26:51] So, you know, as a board, I do have more names in the conversation.
[2:26:56] And I think, you know, they should have a diverse skill set and be diverse in general,
[2:27:01] in terms of east, west, in terms of age,
[2:27:04] in terms of ethnicity, and all those things.
[2:27:08] And they serve such an important role
[2:27:10] and we are delegating such an important power to them.
[2:27:16] And so I do appreciate the concerns
[2:27:19] who guys are raising.
[2:27:22] And I do have tremendous confidence in Mr. Neely.
[2:27:24] I think he'll be a tremendous member of that board.
[2:27:28] But, you know, however people vote, it's a personal decision, you guys are all elected representatives of the community.
[2:27:37] Anyone else on this?
[2:27:41] All right, I will then call the vote. All in favor?
[2:27:46] I, any opposed?
[2:27:48] Okay, so we have four yays, four yeses, one no.
[2:27:56] And the resolution is approved.
[2:28:03] Moving on to resolution number 98 of 2022,
[2:28:09] reappoints individuals to the public safety commission.
[2:28:13] This is right to tell and Walter Britt.
[2:28:18] Seconded by Councilman Mark Tau on favor and approved and of course we appreciate their service number 99 of 2022
[2:28:32] appoints Robert I. Ross Chairman of the Public Safety Commission for 2022.
[2:28:42] Seconded by Councilman Mark Tau just on the motion.
[2:28:47] I think most of us know Ross, Mr. Ross, Robert. He used to work here at Town Hall. He was deputy supervisor for I think Skipini, but he's been very involved at the hospital and as one of their key administrators over there and we speak quite frequently and we now have expanded some of the duties of the public safety commission.
[2:29:13] And I know Robert has, you know, being so busy has toyed with the idea of not continuing
[2:29:21] his chair.
[2:29:22] I'm thrilled that though he's willing to do that, he does a phenomenal job.
[2:29:26] A lot of what they do is appeals of alarm billing, fire, or a burglar type of alarm
[2:29:37] billing.
[2:29:37] And it's a lot of listening, a lot of weighing information
[2:29:42] and making decisions, but where I think
[2:29:46] very fortunate to have Robert there.
[2:29:48] So anyone else before we vote?
[2:29:51] No, I agree.
[2:29:52] Working with Robert is an absolute pleasure.
[2:29:56] I'll take the side.
[2:29:57] He's a great guy.
[2:30:00] I'd like to see the continues to work for the town.
[2:30:02] Yeah.
[2:30:04] I was trying to get two hands in there, the second twice.
[2:30:09] So, all right.
[2:30:12] So, I'll call the vote on favor.
[2:30:15] Aye.
[2:30:17] Approved number 122, reappoint members of the zoning board of appeals.
[2:30:25] This is two members here whose terms are expired.
[2:30:28] This will give them additional four-year terms.
[2:30:32] This is Helen Burgess or Haleen Burgess,
[2:30:36] but I know her is Helen and Michael Daley.
[2:30:45] Seconded by Councilwoman Marktown.
[2:30:48] They both kind of seconded the same.
[2:30:50] No, not Councilwoman.
[2:30:51] I'm really getting the confused.
[2:30:53] I was like, do I go Councilman's uniform?
[2:30:56] Councilwoman's act of matter, and I conflated it
[2:30:59] the councilperson. Sorry Rick. Well we'll try that again. Seconded by councilwoman
[2:31:07] McNamara.
[2:31:11] Any discussion? All in favor. We thank them for their service. Moving on to 101 of 2022
[2:31:24] a point to Adam Grossman chair of the Sonny Board of Appeals for 2022.
[2:31:29] Second, I'd like to invite Councilman Skivoni, all in favor.
[2:31:34] Hi.
[2:31:35] I approved the Adams for doing a great job over there as well.
[2:31:40] So, thank you, Adam, 102 of 2022, a point to Robert Macedonia to the
[2:31:56] Antonio's a lawyer, and he is very interested in land use issues, and I think he'll do a fine job over there.
[2:32:07] Any discussion?
[2:32:08] I'm a no on this.
[2:32:10] Okay.
[2:32:11] Okay.
[2:32:13] Any discussion?
[2:32:14] All right.
[2:32:15] I'll call the vote.
[2:32:16] All in favor?
[2:32:17] All right.
[2:32:18] All right.
[2:32:19] No, John, you're a no.
[2:32:20] All right.
[2:32:21] I'm a no.
[2:32:23] I'm a no.
[2:32:23] All right.
[2:32:23] All right.
[2:32:24] Any, any opposed, this is the time for you to raise your hand, so, okay, extensions, all right, so there were four yeses and one, no council member BVA in opposition and the resolution is approved.
[2:32:41] 103 of 2022 is a continuation of legal services by
[2:32:47] Circleman, Bayland, Adler, and Hyman, LLP as it relates to
[2:32:54] Rose Hill Road, Watermel, New York, for 2022.
[2:33:01] Second bid by Councilwoman McNamara.
[2:33:06] All in favor?
[2:33:08] Aye. Aye.
[2:33:09] Approved.
[2:33:10] 2024 of 2022, a continuation of legal services by David Spelman Barrett L.O.P. for 2022.
[2:33:22] Seconded by Councilman Scrivoni on favourites.
[2:33:26] For a reckless supervisor, if I just mentioned, I know there was some concern from some
[2:33:37] $30,000 is just a set aside, it's not, it's not geared towards any particular case, typically
[2:33:43] as you know, debit's phone and handles represents a town in personal injury cases, cases
[2:33:49] where sick and toy claims, car accidents, that kind of matters, so it's just for the records
[2:33:59] clear that the set aside is just for anticipated costs. Fortunately, in the last few years,
[2:34:04] We've quite a bit less than that, but I thought it was prudent to at least budget this amount, but an expectation that we may actually spend quite a bit less than that.
[2:34:17] Excellent. Thank you.
[2:34:19] Any discussion?
[2:34:21] I'll call the vote on favor.
[2:34:24] All right.
[2:34:25] I proved.
[2:34:26] I'm going to abstain on that, please.
[2:34:29] Oh, you're abstaining on 104 or 2022?
[2:34:33] Yes.
[2:34:33] Okay, with a clerk note, Councilman Martell's extension, all right?
[2:34:39] So it's a four, four, four yeses, and the resolution is approved.
[2:34:47] 105 of 2022 is a continuation of legal services by Stephen 11th all S.
[2:34:53] Fire for ethics matters in 2022.
[2:34:59] I'll take the second from Councilman Martell, all of favor.
[2:35:05] 1, 06 of 2022. Continuation will be legal services by Vincent Tumey, S. Guyer for 2022.
[2:35:17] Seconded by Councillor Steevonio, S. Guyer for 2022.
[2:35:26] to retain David Arnstein, S. Guyer of the Wall offices of Thomas M. Vols, P. L. L. C for
[2:35:34] all matters involving sand mines in the town of Southampton for 2022.
[2:35:42] Seconded by Councilman Scrivoni, all in favour?
[2:35:45] All right. All right. All right. I approve.
[2:35:48] Time work for resolution 108 of 2022, a resolution to adopt amendments to Article 5 chapter
[2:35:57] 298 of the town code to raise the income eligibility for senior citizens with limited income
[2:36:03] for real estate property tax exemptions.
[2:36:08] Second is by Councilman Fubia and just for the record, this is as high as we can go that
[2:36:16] state will allow us. It's not that. We wouldn't necessarily consider giving a larger exemption
[2:36:22] to some of these low-income seniors, but the state establishes these thresholds. We can go up to
[2:36:31] this, but we cannot go beyond it. All right.
[2:36:39] And thank you, Tommy John, for bringing this forward.
[2:36:42] And we held a public hearing on this, so, all in favor.
[2:36:46] Please, I'm sorry.
[2:36:51] Let me just call that again, all in favor.
[2:36:54] I approve.
[2:36:55] And Councillor Schumer, you are thanking Lisa Bory.
[2:36:58] At least Bory as well, a call tax assessor, but as far as it can be.
[2:37:04] All right, number 109 of 2022, a policy resolution to further combat discrimination
[2:37:11] by adopting the, but we did that one, we wrote it on us, we did that one, sorry, but that
[2:37:17] I marked my page, we knew it again. One 10 of 2022 authorized the Southampton Council
[2:37:27] assessor to suspend the exemption renewing.
[2:37:30] So we have no requirements of real property tax by 4, 5, 9, and 4, 6, 7, pursuant to the governor's
[2:37:37] executive order of number 11.1.
[2:37:45] Second, second, five, I'm sorry, council, excuse me, and I think this makes it so you don't
[2:37:52] have to come in if you're a senior to verify, right? Is that what this is?
[2:37:57] That's correct, because if you got to last here because over there.
[2:38:02] Yeah, if you had a works, that's well.
[2:38:07] All in favor.
[2:38:09] All right, approved.
[2:38:13] Down four resolution 2022 dash of 1111.
[2:38:17] Of course, once with Councilman's give on is a historic landmark.
[2:38:20] It says it's a nation of 248 new like Lane Watermill.
[2:38:23] but it's the core with Jones Farmhouse, pursuant to South, the Amton Town,
[2:38:27] Coat 330-321.
[2:38:30] Okay.
[2:38:33] Seconded by
[2:38:37] councilman Scrivoni.
[2:38:40] I saw also councilman McNamara, raise your hand.
[2:38:44] But councilman Scrivoni, all in favor?
[2:38:47] All right, I approved.
[2:38:54] That was one 11, right?
[2:38:58] Yeah, we had to held the public hearing on that.
[2:39:01] Mr. Waznowski and others presented.
[2:39:05] And okay, so that is now achieving landmark status.
[2:39:10] And we move on to 1, 1, 2, and 2022.
[2:39:17] We call on the man resolution number 222-24 setting the town board meeting dates for 2022.
[2:39:25] This will change the February 22nd meeting to 6 p.m. and change the day of the week of November 9th meeting to Wednesday.
[2:39:41] So that's why I went then?
[2:39:45] Wasn't?
[2:39:46] Did I ask why the Wednesday?
[2:39:51] In November.
[2:39:52] In the election day maybe?
[2:39:54] Yes.
[2:39:56] Yes.
[2:39:57] The 8th is election day.
[2:39:58] There.
[2:40:00] The 8th is election day.
[2:40:01] The 8th is election day.
[2:40:01] It's the election day.
[2:40:02] It's the election day.
[2:40:03] It's the election day.
[2:40:04] It's the election day.
[2:40:05] Yes.
[2:40:06] We're closed on November 8th for election day.
[2:40:08] Okay.
[2:40:09] Thank you.
[2:40:09] No vote.
[2:40:09] And so that was, that was an error when we pulled the calendar that we missed that, so it just moving it to the Wednesday.
[2:40:18] All right. And the other one was a daytime meeting. I think we're making it at nighttime meeting February 22nd meeting.
[2:40:25] On public.
[2:40:27] All in favor.
[2:40:29] Hi.
[2:40:30] I'm sorry. Who was the second on that?
[2:40:34] Tell me more.
[2:40:36] So I'll be Wednesday, November 10th, just to be clear, I'll select the one thing November 9th.
[2:40:46] Yeah, the Tuesday is the 9th, so it would be Wednesday, November 10th.
[2:40:51] Yeah, that's really nice.
[2:40:51] Oh, Wednesday's the 9th.
[2:40:53] No, no, Wednesday's the 9th.
[2:40:55] Yeah, Wednesday. No, Tuesday.
[2:40:57] I've been 22.
[2:41:00] I'm looking at, all right, now I'm just looking at this current schedule and it says Tuesday, November 9th.
[2:41:05] because it's a day was wrong not to date.
[2:41:10] Yes, it's a fairly worded.
[2:41:14] Right, I think we had the right number, but the right date not to date.
[2:41:23] All right, so now I don't know if we voted on it yet.
[2:41:26] But we're still coming on the 9th.
[2:41:29] What was there a second on it?
[2:41:34] I'll submit more calls.
[2:41:35] I'll submit more calls.
[2:41:37] All right.
[2:41:37] Thanks for all the vote.
[2:41:38] All in favor.
[2:41:40] OK.
[2:41:41] Approved.
[2:41:42] Once 13 of 2022, resolution in support of functional classification change of post-lay and bridge and clogged village.
[2:41:54] I can explain it.
[2:41:55] Let me get a second.
[2:41:57] Second.
[2:41:59] By councilwoman, McNamara.
[2:42:01] So,
[2:42:05] this is in the village of Quag, the county has determined that the draw bridge there needs to be replaced.
[2:42:15] Federal funding qualifies if it's a connector road.
[2:42:23] But the county has it on their maps as a local road rather than a connector road.
[2:42:28] like, I think it's beach road that it will beach lane, which is the other one in West Hampton
[2:42:36] feeding into a very similar bridge. And without federal aid, I don't see how it could get
[2:42:41] repaired. It's a $73 million project. It's enormously expensive. So the county is asking to
[2:42:50] reclassify it, which they believe is the proper classification. As the road as a connector road,
[2:42:57] Then the bridge on the connector road, then qualifies for federal, federal aid.
[2:43:04] They have asked that, they need consent of the village in the town.
[2:43:12] I reviewed this, I see no downside whatsoever to this designation.
[2:43:17] The road is entirely within the village.
[2:43:21] It does never, never crosses even into the town.
[2:43:24] So, it's within the town, but entirely within the village.
[2:43:30] So, the county has asked for this.
[2:43:32] They originally asked me just to sign a letter,
[2:43:34] and I said, if it's the town's position,
[2:43:38] it really has to come for the town board.
[2:43:40] So, I put this resolution on,
[2:43:42] so we could get that approval,
[2:43:44] then I'll be able to execute or sign any instruments
[2:43:47] that the county needs related to this.
[2:43:50] So, we had a motion in the second.
[2:43:51] any questions, conversation discussion on this?
[2:43:55] No, we discuss this previously, so I feel pretty much up to speed.
[2:44:00] Thank you.
[2:44:02] OK, I don't remember discussing it at open meeting.
[2:44:06] But all in favor?
[2:44:11] I'm fine.
[2:44:11] I'm fine.
[2:44:12] I'm screwed.
[2:44:15] All right.
[2:44:17] John, you're next.
[2:44:18] I think I've lost a page, no one.
[2:44:21] We're on the opposite side. 56.
[2:44:24] That's some pages switched around.
[2:44:26] Here it is.
[2:44:27] 114 is.
[2:44:29] Yeah, page 56.
[2:44:30] Downboard resolution, 2022 dash, 114.
[2:44:34] The release of maintenance,
[2:44:36] my own construction with the site plan of
[2:44:39] Fairfield,
[2:44:40] Southampton,
[2:44:42] Tucko.
[2:44:43] Doesn't say it does.
[2:44:48] Okay.
[2:44:49] A second.
[2:44:49] If I can convince you,
[2:44:50] I've only on favor.
[2:44:52] Bye.
[2:44:53] I proved.
[2:45:00] Okay,
[2:45:03] 2022-115 is the 2022 part-time salaries, certain individuals, second, council member,
[2:45:15] our towel over there, I approved 116, the 2022 accepts resignation of an office assistant
[2:45:25] and senior services, seconded by Councilwoman McNamara over there, we skip 113, did I skip
[2:45:40] one?
[2:45:41] Yeah, I'm just, I don't have it in March.
[2:45:43] Well, 113 was the post-language.
[2:45:47] Okay, thank you.
[2:45:48] I'm sorry, I got pages all switched around, apologies.
[2:45:53] All right, so I'm up to once, I'm on page 58,
[2:45:56] resolution 117 of 2022,
[2:46:00] accepts retirement of Catherine Shemoon,
[2:46:04] driver messenger and land management.
[2:46:06] Second.
[2:46:07] Second of my councilman, Bovijit, Bovijit,
[2:46:10] Just on the motion, Kathy Shumun is a coag resident.
[2:46:17] She's retiring after 28 years with the town and it's building department.
[2:46:23] She started in 1994.
[2:46:26] She's been secretary for the architectural review board for 26 of those years.
[2:46:31] She also provides the administrative support to the town's electrical division,
[2:46:35] receiving and scheduling requests for electrical inspections.
[2:46:38] in fact the town of Southampton is one of a few municipalities in the state that does that function.
[2:46:46] One of the things the town is most proud of Cassie for is her working with the town attorney
[2:46:52] David Gilmarton and business management head Richard Glose to change the town code.
[2:47:00] Thanks to her diligence and attention to detail. Official notices are now sent via certified
[2:47:05] now instead of the more closely registered now, which the town had been overpaying for throughout
[2:47:11] the years. Kathy also simultaneously served for a time as the Secretary of the Conservation Board
[2:47:18] in the 1990s. She's been a resident of town of Southampton since 1982. The travels every year
[2:47:30] to Europe and Africa, but she doesn't tend to visit Florida, right after retirement, and
[2:47:39] we certainly wish her the very best in her retirement, and thank her for many years of
[2:47:47] service to the town.
[2:47:50] There you go.
[2:47:52] So, little background on Kathy.
[2:47:56] So, we'll be missed.
[2:47:57] She will be missed.
[2:47:59] Good luck, Dad.
[2:48:01] So, yeah, that was, I had received some communication from the CRC office, a little bit of background on Kathy.
[2:48:11] All right, so we had a motion, a second, all in favor.
[2:48:16] Hi.
[2:48:17] Approved.
[2:48:18] All right.
[2:48:18] One 18 of 2022 appoints Patrice Wilmont to confidential secretary position in the town clerks office.
[2:48:32] Seconded by Councilman Bovier,
[2:48:38] any discussion?
[2:48:41] All in favor?
[2:48:43] I'm looking at the public.
[2:48:46] No, yes, this has been important to wait to find the right person.
[2:48:53] So, we've been with out that position in someone sitting in the seat that she's doing
[2:49:00] have the job already. Very pleased to have her board. He can never, you know, never can have too many
[2:49:06] Wilmos. Well, apparently not because that's that. The next confidential secretary is also a Wilma.
[2:49:13] Yes, she is. I suspect they're related.
[2:49:18] Sister in law.
[2:49:20] All right. So 1 19 of 2022 appoints Jennifer Wilma to confidential secretary position in highway.
[2:49:29] Second.
[2:49:32] Seconded by Councilman Martell.
[2:49:35] All in favor.
[2:49:37] Hi.
[2:49:39] Approved.
[2:49:41] The control was lost there is the high will superintendent's game.
[2:49:46] So we should do a fine job for the new highway superintendent.
[2:49:50] One, 20, of 2022,
[2:49:56] appoint Stephanie Vega to senior office assistant in highway.
[2:50:01] Second.
[2:50:02] Thank you for shopping with me.
[2:50:05] All in favor.
[2:50:09] Hi.
[2:50:09] I approved.
[2:50:10] Happy to see that Stephanie is staying with the town.
[2:50:16] Twenty twenty two of.
[2:50:19] Sorry.
[2:50:20] One twenty one of twenty twenty two.
[2:50:23] Authorized.
[2:50:24] Authorizes the hiring of.
[2:50:27] Rudolf Olsolo.
[2:50:28] It's download to the as a police starting police officer.
[2:50:35] Second.
[2:50:38] Officer Suilo, is that how you say?
[2:50:44] Um, it takes up.
[2:50:47] So all right, so we had a second did by a second from Councillor Miskevone.
[2:50:52] All in favor.
[2:50:54] All right.
[2:50:56] Approved.
[2:50:57] This comes as at the recommendation of the police chief and
[2:51:02] I hope, I'm sure you'll all be invited to the swearing end, so when we have that information.
[2:51:10] All right.
[2:51:11] 122 of 22.
[2:51:14] 122 authorized town personnel from the town police to attend active shooter training.
[2:51:23] Second.
[2:51:24] Seconded by the council.
[2:51:25] Excuse you, Voni.
[2:51:26] I'm on flavor.
[2:51:28] All right.
[2:51:29] All right, approved.
[2:51:31] 123 of 2022, authorized town personnel
[2:51:35] from town police to attend strip top training.
[2:51:42] Second, that can did by councilwoman
[2:51:45] back to there on flavor.
[2:51:49] All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right,
[2:51:53] You're not to give you Cindy some of these to read.
[2:51:56] So you don't have to give me anything.
[2:51:58] You don't have to give me anything.
[2:51:59] All right, 124, 2022, NYTOA conference.
[2:52:10] Seconded by Councilman McNamara, all in favour.
[2:52:14] All right, approved.
[2:52:16] 125, 2022 is the notice public hearing to consider amendment of Town Coach after 250
[2:52:21] outdoor sidewalk dining as it relates to license term and administration.
[2:52:28] Seconded by Councilman McNamara.
[2:52:30] All in favour, aye, that approved that hearing over February 8th, 2022. I just want to see if it's noticed for video
[2:52:44] the company, yes, it is, one PM,
[2:52:51] I think, you know, board at the take a moment here, we're
[2:52:57] looking at Zoom meetings and February and it's, I mean, I am hoping that, you know, at that
[2:53:05] point, there'll be much lower incidence than we can get back to normal in terms of COVID,
[2:53:10] but the elevator is not done until the end of February.
[2:53:16] So my target at this point is to go even though the,
[2:53:20] we're allowed to continue to zoom meetings,
[2:53:21] to go back to in-person meetings in March,
[2:53:24] with the first meeting in March.
[2:53:26] So we'll just have to keep an eye on these notices
[2:53:28] so that the March meetings are noticed for in-person.
[2:53:34] All right, I'm up to 1 26 of 2022,
[2:53:36] co-sponsored with Councilman BoVA, adopt secret positive declaration and notice public
[2:53:43] scoping session to facilitate preparation of draft environmental impact statement,
[2:53:49] the IS for the NRP group change of zone application entitled to preserve its health
[2:53:54] country road for a change from CR-40 to multi-family plan residential district on a 17-acre parcel
[2:54:02] So, in order to facilitate development of 104 units of affordable rental housing and the
[2:54:08] Hamlet of Quayad, the density of six units per acre.
[2:54:15] So, let me get a second.
[2:54:17] I can explain this.
[2:54:18] It's a lot.
[2:54:19] Counts second by Councilman Bervier,
[2:54:23] so, you know, at the recommendation of the planning
[2:54:25] department where, because this is either an unlisted or a type one action, probably type
[2:54:33] one action. So this is the positive declaration and triggers the environmental impact statement.
[2:54:46] So we're basically in this resolution determining that there is a possibility of adverse impacts
[2:54:55] that need to be looked at and they'll put together a scope being outlined of the types of questions that we want them to answer.
[2:55:08] Janice, do you want to add to what I just said?
[2:55:14] Sure. I was just saying that what this coalition of doing is you already adjourn the public hearing to the
[2:55:21] meeting in February and then change the time to be at 6 p.m. to accommodate those who wanted
[2:55:28] it to be a night meeting. And then what we did here by doing it as issuing a positive
[2:55:35] declaration, we're making that, we're noticing the scope here and for that same night. So the
[2:55:41] testimony that you hear that night will be used to prepare the draft scope and then you'll adopt a
[2:55:48] will scope and then they'll prepare an environmental impact statement. I mean the writing was pretty
[2:55:53] much on the wall from that first hearing that there was a lot of issues. So just to, you know,
[2:55:58] cross the T's that the eyes is not necessarily a death sentence, so that you get the best possible
[2:56:03] project that would density that everybody's comfortable with. So that's what we're headed and
[2:56:09] you know it's a fair process and we'll make sure that it moves along. But you know that way you
[2:56:14] have that scoping session that same night it will be combined so and that's that's a very efficient
[2:56:20] and secret does like you know encourage you to not be duplicative and do things combined.
[2:56:28] Okay thank you. Thank you. Thanks for joining us while she's here in zoom land with us.
[2:56:34] Just a moment.
[2:56:37] Well you just say to my experience anytime it's even close certainly should defer to doing
[2:56:44] the fully I. Yes, but then that kind of fits both the residents in here that even the applicant and the talent. So
[2:56:52] down the applicants agrees with that. So we're all on the same page. Yeah, and it's consistent what we did with concern.
[2:56:59] Yeah.
[2:57:02] Okay. So I think we had a I had a major motion. It was a second. So I'll call the vote on favor.
[2:57:21] Okay, I think it's me, 127.
[2:57:24] I think 22-127, as a notice of public hearing,
[2:57:28] to consider a Mending Town Code 243,
[2:57:31] old filed maps, and town code chapter 3353,
[2:57:34] old filed map overlay districts, general regulations
[2:57:37] to incorporate review by bounds engineering division.
[2:57:44] Thank you.
[2:57:45] Second, by Councilman Skierbony,
[2:57:49] this is February 22nd at 6 p.m.
[2:57:53] Also via zoom all
[2:57:59] in, stay ever.
[2:58:01] All right.
[2:58:02] All right.
[2:58:03] We're moving on to the walk on.
[2:58:11] Three, nine, four, two, three,
[2:58:16] three, two, eight.
[2:58:18] It's a warrant number two,
[2:58:20] capital number two,
[2:58:21] CFF number two, and payroll liability.
[2:58:24] Just back in.
[2:58:28] There's a paid second of my councilman,
[2:58:31] So VA, hold the favor.
[2:58:33] All right.
[2:58:34] Hi.
[2:58:34] I approve.
[2:58:39] All right.
[2:58:39] And again, this is here.
[2:58:41] She can explain this.
[2:58:42] This is 39.
[2:58:44] 47.
[2:58:48] This is a.
[2:58:49] Can you place in can now in eastern properties.
[2:58:52] Maritime PDD Hampton Bayes coordinate secret for
[2:58:55] listed action to men, town code chapter 330-248-5, section 3 in title, permitted use to
[2:59:03] subsection D in title canal property for us will do and add subsections A, A, and B, and C,
[2:59:09] and amendments section 7 in title conditions, subsection 7 and 12. Let me get a motion first,
[2:59:17] so I'll make that's a motion to approve and the second by council and not to matter.
[2:59:25] All right, Janis, can you explain what this is?
[2:59:27] Right, so you just have the public hearing and instead of waiting now and then doing a coordination
[2:59:33] on the next meeting, it was talking to Kathleen and Christine and realized, wait a minute, we need to coordinate
[2:59:42] secret. It is an unlisted action. You could do an unlit overview, but we, you know, the advice
[2:59:49] the territories office was to just do it as an unlisted coordinated review. So that means that
[2:59:57] you adopt this resolution, the planning board.
[3:00:00] It is the other involved agency that you get feedback from and then all the notices go out to all the interested agencies and that we move on from there.
[3:00:10] And, you know, we, they did submit as we discussed on the record today, the expanded EAS and then we'll review that.
[3:00:17] We'll do the part, they, they do that part one and we do parts two and three and then we'll give you a secret determination after that.
[3:00:25] So this is just to start that secret process and it just saves time in the end to instead of waiting
[3:00:31] when I just won't just get that over with. Any questions for Dennis?
[3:00:38] Okay, I'll call the vote.
[3:00:41] All in favour? Bye. Bye. Thank you. All right, that's the last resolution. Is there any other business?
[3:00:52] We do have work session scheduled for this Thursday.
[3:00:56] They believe that 11 is there any other business is it 11 or is it 10 is it 10 I hope so because there's a lot there
[3:01:10] Yeah, I think you know what I do think it is 10 because I was doing a lot because of travel but I'm doing 10 because it's on zoom
[3:01:20] Yeah, I have it on my calendar is 10 there's we have a lot
[3:01:24] We have a very busy work session.
[3:01:27] Okay.
[3:01:30] So is any other business?
[3:01:31] Thank you for that correction.
[3:01:33] All right.
[3:01:34] Seeing none, I'll make a motion to adjourn.
[3:01:37] Is there a second?
[3:01:38] Second.
[3:01:38] I can also warm in, I'm not going to say Martell.
[3:01:42] Councilwoman, not your mayor.
[3:01:44] All in favor?
[3:01:45] Aye.
[3:01:47] We are adjourned.
[3:01:49] Take care.