1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,264 Those 2 00:00:03,274 --> 00:00:09,509 [clears throat] 3 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:43,510 people are here. 4 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,239 it is. 5 00:00:44,239 --> 00:00:45,680 >> I'll put that one on. Thank you. 6 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:53,700 >> Thank you. 7 00:00:53,710 --> 00:00:54,640 » [laughter] 8 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,150 >> No problem. 9 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,160 » And you you can turn the thing in the 10 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,920 back and it'll make it so you don't have 11 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,760 to be so close to it. It picks you up at 12 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,155 a different distance. [cough] 13 00:01:06,155 --> 00:01:18,950 [clears throat] 14 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,960 A public hearing will be held by the 15 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,200 town of Sullivan Planning Board on March 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,520 3rd, 2026 at 6:45 p.m. at the town of 17 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,479 Sullivan, 7507 Lakeport Road at Nango, 18 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:32,960 New York 1337 19 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:35,520 to consider the application of Brent and 20 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Melissa Buno for property located at 152 21 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Washington Avenue, Canota, New York, SPL 22 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,830 number being 10.36-1-42 23 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,079 for a special use permit pursuant to the 24 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:53,759 town of Sullivan codes article 4 animals 25 00:01:53,759 --> 00:01:59,200 and follow sections 105- -28 and 105-29 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,520 to have six chickens. The above 27 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,439 application is open to inspection at the 28 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,719 town office building 7507 Lakeport Road, 29 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:08,560 Chip Naga, New York during regular 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,720 business hours. Persons wishing to 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,560 appear at such hearing may do so by 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,000 person, attorney or other 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,959 representative. 34 00:02:16,959 --> 00:02:21,510 >> They're not here. 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,959 » They are not here. 36 00:02:24,959 --> 00:02:27,280 Just want to hold it till we get through 37 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,440 the rest of the agenda. 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:38,790 >> We'll hold it and then we'll go to Mr. 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,800 A public hearing will be held by town of 40 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Sland Planning Board on March 3rd, 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,800 2026 at 6:45 p.m. at the town of 42 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Sullivan, 7507 Lake Road, Chenango, New 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,160 York 1337 to consider the application of 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,519 Edward Atkins for property located at 45 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:00,640 8964 Green Road, Bridgeport, New York, 46 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:05,840 SPL number being 8.6-1-17. 6-1-17 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,239 for a special use permit pursuant to the 48 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:11,519 zoning schedule of the town of Sullivan 49 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:14,879 zoning law 275-9 50 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:16,640 D12 51 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:21,599 K for a 24x 46 ft temporary tent for 52 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:24,000 storage. The above application is open 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,599 to inspection at the town office 54 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:29,040 building 7507 Lakeport Road Chitna New 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 York during regular business hours. 56 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Persons wishing to appear at such 57 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,000 hearing may do so by person, attorney or 58 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,509 other representative. 59 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:41,599 Mr. Action, you want Yep. You want to 60 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:48,550 stand up to the podium, please? 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,239 So, Mr. Action, we 62 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,000 got a couple different reports from your 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,400 neighbors. 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,319 couple of, you know, the one neighbor 65 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,280 sent us quite a few photographs 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,120 of all of it back there and 67 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,560 they're not very happy with everything 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,159 that's going on back there with all that 69 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:09,840 tents 70 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,840 in your property. 71 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,200 They think you should clean it up a 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,000 little bit, but 73 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,919 that's what we're going to address the 74 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:22,000 tent tonight. And is there anybody here 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,280 that would like to speak? Hi, Mr. Exon. 76 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,720 Okay. 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Are you okay? All right, Mr. Action, do 78 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,720 you want to take a seat and then Art 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,360 state your name, your address, 80 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 and anybody who speaks, we give you 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,000 three minutes and then 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,759 Okay, our little Warbury Road. Uh, I 83 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,800 oppose the request and I have sat 84 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,199 through every one of these meetings. uh 85 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:53,600 and u uh at the last meeting I think the 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,880 board adequately described uh what the 87 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 current situation is and uh that uh 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,720 clearly made my mind up. So I'm I'm 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,199 opposing this application. Thank you. 90 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,950 >> Thank [clears throat] you. 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,280 » So Mr. Do you want to see any of these 92 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:11,840 pictures? 93 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:13,039 >> Yes, I'd like them. 94 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:14,880 >> All right. 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,120 You want to go up to the podium and I'll bring them over to you. You can 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:38,628 take a look at them. 97 00:05:38,638 --> 00:05:42,070 » [clears throat] 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,080 » I'll give you a couple minute or so to 99 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:54,349 go through them and take a look at them. 100 00:05:54,359 --> 00:06:37,749 » [snorts] 101 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:39,360 » So, did these come from my tenant that 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,800 just got evicted? 103 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,960 >> I don't think so. Um, I do cuz they're 104 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,400 on my property. Take these pictures. 105 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,360 before taking outside my fence. 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,120 >> What's the last name? 107 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,600 >> What's that? 108 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,280 >> What's the last name? 109 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:51,919 >> I can't hear. 110 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:54,000 >> What's the last name of you? What's the 111 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,680 last person saying? 112 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,440 >> Uh 113 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,639 the Craig. 114 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,160 >> No, 115 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,280 that goes to them. 116 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:02,479 >> About 117 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:06,160 >> No, somebody was on my property there. 118 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,919 These are nothing to do with the tent. 119 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:09,919 This is the front yard of the SL tenant 120 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:12,720 that I just got evicted. It's not 121 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,599 >> look. 122 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:14,800 >> All right. So you have 123 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,400 >> the 14 124 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,919 >> the tent's been an issue for three 125 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:19,599 years. 126 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:21,199 >> No, the garage has been issue for three 127 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:22,880 years. The tent was there and please the 128 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,440 garage. 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,039 >> No, the garage wasn't. You pulled your 130 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:27,039 application. 131 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:28,319 >> Well, I got it right here. Would you 132 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:28,960 like to see that? 133 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,479 >> You don't have the right stuff because I 134 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:32,400 went in there when I came back here last 135 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:39,589 month. We reckon 136 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:41,120 right there when I signed stuff. Yes. 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,039 >> But that was three years ago. That was 138 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:49,110 last month. 139 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 » I know nothing about I knew that you 140 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,840 applied for a garage three years ago. 141 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,720 >> That's correct. 142 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,039 >> And your house was an ituation and they 143 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:58,560 wanted 144 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,479 an architect's drawings on what you did 145 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:02,479 to your house and the work being done. 146 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:03,599 >> That's not true. 147 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,199 >> The true It isn't true about this. 148 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:06,400 >> That's not the whole sentence. 149 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,720 >> Okay. But your house isn't let's call 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,720 isn't your house isn't what we're 151 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,560 talking about. talk about the times 152 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,479 >> you're talking about the house. This is 153 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:16,879 >> I'm just giving you 154 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:18,960 >> Okay. All right, Mr. Ex. 155 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,599 >> It's You want to get it right one time? 156 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:22,960 >> Actions. 157 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,879 >> Okay. Sorry. My apologies. 158 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:25,599 >> Thank you. 159 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:29,270 >> Um 160 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:35,110 have any questions? 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,719 Any 162 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:45,910 questions? 163 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,120 » Sorry about the whole backyard. 164 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,000 >> Whole backyard. 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,640 >> Yeah. 166 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,480 >> So, 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:52,800 um, 168 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 >> so we're asking for a permit for a tent 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,279 that he's had already up for three 170 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:58,160 years. 171 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 >> That's correct. That's correct. 172 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:01,680 >> We're in court. 173 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:03,600 >> That's what I was told. We're 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,519 prosecuting. Mr. 175 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:09,920 and justice court over this. So 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,640 I I don't feel a special use for it was 177 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,920 made was developed for tents in the 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,240 backyard for storage. It's for home 179 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,760 occupancy work for different businesses. 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,360 >> So what might be helpful for the board 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,440 when when you get around to looking at 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,360 the merits of the application is the 183 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,519 burden's on the applicant. So the person 184 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:34,880 that comes before you have to 185 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,560 demonstrate why they're entitled to the 186 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,640 special use permit. That's solely their 187 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,760 burden, [clears throat] not your burden, 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,920 their burden. And the criteria that 189 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,720 you're faced with is they have to show 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,800 all the following that the location, 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,920 size of use and structure, na nature and 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,839 intensity of the operations involved, 193 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:54,320 the size of site in relation to it and 194 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,160 the location of the site with respect to 195 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,160 streets give giving access to it will be 196 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,480 in harmony will be in harmony with the 197 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,720 orderly development of that area. So 198 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,640 your first question is is having these 199 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 things on that property in harmony with 200 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,880 the orderly orderly development of not 201 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,320 just that property but the properties 202 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,399 surround it. That's your first question. 203 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,399 And then the second piece of it is that 204 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:16,720 the location, nature and height of any 205 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,399 buildings, walls or fences will not 206 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:20,079 discourage the appropriate appropriate 207 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:22,800 development and use of adjacent land and 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,760 buildings or or impair their value. 209 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Third is um operations of any 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,839 conditional use should not be more 211 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:32,320 objectionable to nearby properties than 212 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,880 will any permitted use. So the question 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,800 is would these things are these things 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,560 more objectionable than something you're 215 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,839 allowed to have as of right? And um and 216 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:43,680 the last piece really I don't think is 217 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:45,519 relevant but has to do with adequate 218 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:48,160 parking that's really relevant but 219 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,399 that's a requirement for an applicant to 220 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,640 approve to to obtain a special use 221 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,320 permit. 222 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,240 I just want to remind you of that. And 223 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:02,790 that's um Jenna, that's um 275-9 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 uh 225 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:25,127 uppercase C. 226 00:11:25,137 --> 00:11:49,750 » [clears throat] 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,320 » So, at this point, you're probably going 228 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 to close this public hearing. Everybody 229 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 else has spoken. You got the letter that 230 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 you have. 231 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,120 >> So, can I have a motion to close this 232 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,880 public? 233 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,320 >> Second. 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,800 >> So, hang around then come back up at 235 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,480 when we start a regular meeting at 7 236 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,200 o'clock. Then we go back and discuss 237 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,949 everything. 238 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:20,310 » Yeah. 239 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,880 » What's going on? Went over and talked to 240 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,560 the judge today. I was in there again 241 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,480 for that person with all that crap. 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,190 >> Yeah. 243 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,399 » But these photos are showing the tent 244 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:38,480 that you currently have up, right? 245 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,519 >> The tent that's in these photos is the 246 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:43,360 tent that you've had up for three years 247 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,680 now, which is what we are discussing. 248 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:46,639 >> Wait, what? Is there something wrong 249 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,800 with my home? You see something wrong 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,639 destroyed on it like your attorney 251 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:53,040 talked last week 252 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,680 apart. 253 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:55,920 >> I'm going off of what the attorney just 254 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,959 pointed out about 255 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:02,079 how it compares to 256 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:04,959 adjacent land other uses. 257 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:12,790 >> Apparently, nobody's been on the 258 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,959 » secondary. You want me to read that 259 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:17,839 again? Yeah, if you would because they 260 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:21,750 just came in. 261 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,519 » A public hearing will be held by the 262 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:25,440 town of Sullivan Planning Board on March 263 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,240 3rd, 2026 at 6:45 p.m. 264 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,600 7507 Lake Road, Chittangle, New York 265 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,560 1337 to consider the application of 266 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,680 Brent and Melissa O'Neal for property 267 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,800 located at 152 Washington Canes Stooga, 268 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,470 New York. SPL number being 10.36-1-42 269 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,560 for a special use permit pursuant to the 270 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:54,240 town of Sullivan code article 4 animals 271 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,639 and file sections 105-28 and 105-29 to 272 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:01,040 have six chickens the above application 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,959 is open to inspection at the town office 274 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:05,199 building 7507 275 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:07,199 road chip mango New York during regular 276 00:14:07,199 --> 00:14:09,440 business hours persons wishing to appear 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,360 at such hearing may do so by person 278 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,750 attorney or other representative 279 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,760 You guys want to talk to them? Thank 280 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:47,509 you. 281 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:50,320 Good evening. Um, in the papers there, 282 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,560 uh, our neighbor 283 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,680 just u written a letter in response to 284 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,199 this 285 00:14:57,199 --> 00:15:00,710 situation. 286 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,760 » And then um I was asked to kind of draw 287 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,360 up like where the coop goes. That's our 288 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 um 289 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,480 our property. Uh can't remember what 290 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,959 it's exactly called, but anyways. Um, I 291 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:17,360 did kind of change the lines for the 25 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,360 foot because I know the 25 foot away 293 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,839 from the neighbors is kind of uh what we 294 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:24,959 need to be concerned with for chickens. 295 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:29,839 So, I re some lines and I also um in the 296 00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:31,360 next 297 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,000 page it talks about a chicken tractor 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,600 which we kind of discussed just a little 299 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,800 bit um and the benefits of it in that 300 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 the chickens are healthier. Um, it also 301 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,959 keeps your lawn in a better condition 302 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:47,839 and um 303 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:52,000 can also help uh with 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,279 uh ticks and other things because 305 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:54,560 they're moving around eating those 306 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,600 things that you don't really want to 307 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,560 have around. Um, 308 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,000 see what else I put on there. 309 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,639 Take up less space, 310 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:08,160 keep the yard better, and yeah, keeps 311 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,040 the birds healthier, too. And then um 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,959 the next pages it just talks about how 313 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:14,959 our fresh eggs are so much healthier for 314 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:23,350 you and then what we purchase in stores. 315 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,000 » That's it. 316 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,839 >> Okay. 317 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:27,751 So 318 00:16:27,751 --> 00:16:28,800 [snorts] 319 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,000 I took I took a ride down and I looked 320 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 at your property from the road and 321 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,079 you're right on the corner 322 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:37,600 >> and the lake is right across. 323 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,800 >> Yeah. 324 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600 So, the only place looks like you had 325 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,199 any room [clears throat] whatsoever to 326 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:45,680 scoot your portable cage around is your 327 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,389 front yard, George Lake. 328 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,480 » And you have 10 chickens, 329 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,720 >> but your application is for six. 330 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 >> Yeah, we discussed the fact that we are 331 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,360 300 square feet shy of of being able to 332 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,399 keep 10 chickens. So, 333 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:04,000 >> at the last meeting, we discussed that. 334 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,640 >> Yeah. 335 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,799 >> Um Yeah. because you stated you thought 336 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,640 that you may have what 20,000 square 337 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,520 feet your building your yard 338 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,160 you were going with 10 chickens right 339 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,559 >> yeah and I think that's what is a lot of 340 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:22,079 10 2000 and we're like something 341 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,079 >> that that would be clear land not with 342 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,799 house setting on it a swimming pool deck 343 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,120 and another garage besides the one 344 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,240 attached to your house 345 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,990 >> I guess this is not specific 346 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Yes, lot that just a lot of size, right? 347 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,760 You got what 16,800 square foot house 348 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,480 with an attached garage. 349 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,880 What's your other garage sit 14 by 20 350 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,640 something in the back? 351 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,600 >> I don't know. 352 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,840 >> Pools 28 foot round 353 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,559 >> with a deck. Yeah. So that cuts down 354 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:06,960 your square footage quite a bit. 355 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,440 >> Yeah, the cage is um 4 foot by if you 356 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,000 include the uh the coupe and the 357 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,440 extending cage is 4 by3 which isn't very 358 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,919 large. 359 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:23,280 >> So is there anybody here that's wants to 360 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,000 speak for this? All right. So, okay. I'm 361 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,720 going to have them speak first. If you'd 362 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:40,390 like to sit down, 363 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,679 » so I got a couple rules. You get three 364 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:48,400 minutes. So, and state your name, 365 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,039 address, and then I start the three 366 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:51,919 minutes after that. 367 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:52,559 >> Okay. 368 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:54,799 >> Uh, my name is John Smith. live on 369 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,200 Washington 133 Washington with my wife 370 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,880 Betty. Um we know of them. We're not, 371 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,400 you know, really close to them, but we 372 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,919 are neighbors. 373 00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:05,679 >> The chickens don't seem to cause any 374 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:07,520 problems. Anytime we've been down that 375 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840 road or down the lake, the chickens are 376 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 in their yard or they're in the 377 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,080 um I don't see it as a problem. 378 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,600 I think there's bigger problems in that 379 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,080 area than chickens. 380 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,200 >> Yeah. 381 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520 >> All right. just, you know, our opinion 382 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,789 and our, you know, 383 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:30,960 » Yeah, we appreciate it. 384 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:44,898 >> Thank you. 385 00:19:44,908 --> 00:19:45,200 » [clears throat] 386 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,799 >> Um, I'm actually going to oppose this uh 387 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:53,840 chicken cell. Uh according to modern 388 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,000 agriculture magazine, their special 389 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,679 chickens issue, chickens uh excrete two 390 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:04,160 cubic feet of manure every year. So 10 391 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,120 chickens are going to excrete 20 cubic 392 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,840 feet of manure on this property every 393 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,400 year. Now this box only holds one and a 394 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,640 half cubic feet [clears throat] 395 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,360 uh in volume. And uh that may be the 396 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,760 volume of manure dropped by one chicken 397 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,600 times the 10 15 cubic feet of manure 398 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,200 perhaps that have already been dropped 399 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,080 by the 10 chicken thing. Uh chicken 400 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,159 manure is a smelly liquid blend of 401 00:20:32,159 --> 00:20:36,240 ammonia based urine and feces uh that 402 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,240 kills the grass that it drops onto and 403 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,000 it drops 404 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 from a single combined vent in the 405 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,440 chicken. 406 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,360 um which because it's blended and 407 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,640 ammonia based, it attracts flies galore 408 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,120 and kills morass before it partially 409 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,000 sinks into the ground. Uh which defeats 410 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,400 composting actually and and blends with 411 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,559 every breeze which is why many of the 412 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:04,400 residents are down there is for the near 413 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,799 constant breezes 414 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,400 uh providing neighbors with a constant 415 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,080 width of barnyard success. I think the 416 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,280 congested area of MR12 throughout is 417 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,880 made up of waterfront and water view 418 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,600 homes on mostly quarter acre and smaller 419 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,720 lots. This one's a large lot uh in 420 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,039 comparison, but we need to be talking 421 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:28,159 about the neighbors down there. And 422 00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:30,720 that's really why we're here. Uh and 423 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,159 these properties are costing two to 424 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:33,840 three times more than other properties 425 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,559 south of 31 and paying two to three 426 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,640 times more in taxes as well. People here 427 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,240 buy from the waterfront, the breezes, 428 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,200 the outdoor lifestyle. But this proposal 429 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200 is eventually, if not already, 430 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,679 subjecting them to farm smells and flies 431 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:49,280 galore. It's not a problem south of 432 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,159 Route 31. But it is here and especially 433 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:55,039 during the 80°ree and 90 degree weeks we 434 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:59,039 all try to enjoy outdoors. And this MR12 435 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,679 area, people are out even more. This 436 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:03,679 proposal is a greater detriment to the 437 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:05,919 MR12 neighborhood lifestyle and and it 438 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:08,480 is a benefit to the applicant. Uh town 439 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 code limits foul in MR12 to protect the 440 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,400 lakefront taxpayers from smells of 441 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,159 manure flies by the way and other 442 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:20,320 nuisances that might be managed as if 443 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,640 they were simply on a farm or a farm 444 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,400 south of Route 31. The stinky 445 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,760 combination of uh liquid ammonia based 446 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,039 manure and near constant waterfront 447 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,360 breezes depletes periodic composting. It 448 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,480 cannot be undone by simply a partial 449 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,720 weekly manure scraping because this 450 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,799 stuff over the course of a week sinks 451 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,320 down into the top two inches of the 452 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,720 ground. Uh, and nobody's talking about 453 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,600 taking that out. Um, or limiting to a 454 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,640 hot barn. Imagine that. As the manure 455 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,840 builds up, we are talking 15 to 20 cubic 456 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,640 feet per year of this stuff. Chickens 457 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,400 are prone. In conclusion, chickens are 458 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,640 prone to farm nuisances, manure smells, 459 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,240 flies galore, uh worms, parasites, lice, 460 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,960 and salmonella spread by the flies, by 461 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 the way, who travel a quarter mile fly 462 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,080 biology for you across the neighborhood 463 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,799 for picnic dining. Uh that's why our 464 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:16,159 county board is going to be holding a 465 00:23:16,159 --> 00:23:18,480 public hearing and a vote in one day 466 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,159 whether to have a moratorum on these 467 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:22,720 types of applications. Uh, please don't 468 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,200 approve this application just before a 469 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840 moratorum is considered by the town. 470 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,600 Thank you. 471 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,760 >> What was his name and where he lived? 472 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 >> What's that? 473 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,679 >> Oh, that's because he said it the first 474 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:39,520 time. You want to give your name? 475 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:45,190 >> Sure. Artio 476 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,679 » doesn't have to be. 477 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:49,360 >> So, 478 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:59,696 does have any other questions? 479 00:23:59,706 --> 00:24:02,230 » [clears throat] 480 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,830 » six 481 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:12,950 push 482 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,880 special. 483 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,720 >> Yeah, you can get up to six special. 484 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080 How many without a special? 485 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,120 >> Well, there's a there's a little 486 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,526 chart we have in our code 487 00:24:28,526 --> 00:24:29,919 [laughter] 488 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:33,039 right there. It's 105-209 489 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:38,159 density for um density for fowl. 490 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:43,360 So under 10,000 square feet up three 491 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,919 between 10 and 20,000 square ft up to 492 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,440 six 493 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:57,337 and then goes up and up from there. 494 00:24:57,347 --> 00:25:04,710 [clears throat] 495 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,200 How close are you to the lake? 496 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,000 >> Uh just on Lake and then it's the lake 497 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 right across the street. Across the 498 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,750 street 499 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,279 there's the street that goes the front 500 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:20,720 of their house. Then there's a grass 501 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,159 area where people 502 00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:25,919 then the lake is on the other side of 503 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:26,480 that 504 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:38,602 >> and the parcel circle land is only 505 00:25:38,612 --> 00:25:47,510 [clears throat] 506 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,039 » you know you get rain water whatever 507 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,200 Here's a street. There's a street goes 508 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,880 down 509 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,590 here. 510 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Thinking how much 511 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:03,919 chicken put out and 512 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:08,960 how much filtered down into the soil. 513 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200 >> Is there anything we can do about the um 514 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,440 Canadian geese? 515 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,200 We have Canadian geese that poop all 516 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,240 over the properties and our yard too. I 517 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,720 mean, that's just that's a thing that's 518 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,080 I don't know. It's just kind of that's happening. But I know we can't do 519 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,000 anything about that. We have to survive 520 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,640 with them. 521 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,480 >> They really work. 522 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,120 >> Yeah. Um and but about the chicken 523 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:34,880 tractor, it's actually much more 524 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 sanitary than just having them all in 525 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,559 one place because it does move around. 526 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,799 He's he moves it. He cleans it up and 527 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,120 moves it around. So, and he's really 528 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,880 good at cleaning out the poop and 529 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:52,789 everything, too. So, yeah. All 530 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:57,029 right. 531 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:01,600 Second. All in [laughter] favor? 532 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:09,190 >> Thank you. 533 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,279 » Well, we're past 7:00, so we'll start 534 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,600 our meeting for March, our planning 535 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,190 board meeting. 536 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,120 were passed around. Did anybody see any 537 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,549 questions? 538 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:27,510 Can I have a motion to pass? 539 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,990 Second favor 540 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,470 are passed. 541 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,279 Right. 542 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:42,320 So, let's come on up and we'll discuss 543 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,120 your You want to stand at the podium 544 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,294 here? 545 00:27:48,304 --> 00:27:53,029 » [clears throat] 546 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,789 » So 547 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,200 that's that's been an ongoing issue for 548 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,720 three years now. The tent I'm not 549 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,480 talking the house. I'm talking the 550 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,039 backyard and the tent. 551 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,880 That's that's what the special use for 552 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,279 that. He would like this as the tents 553 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,200 for storage, right? Well, until like the 554 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,029 garage [snorts] 555 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:18,640 the garage starts, the tank's got to 556 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,909 come down, 557 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:26,799 » right? So, I mean, 558 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,600 well, it's up to I mean a special use 559 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,360 permit 560 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:35,600 once you issue a special use permit that 561 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,240 goes on that property forever. 562 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Is that correct, John? Special use 563 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,000 permit runs with the land. Yes. 564 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,520 >> Yes. 565 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,480 >> So, 566 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,760 >> well, it's going to be special use for 567 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,279 the garage, too. You still got to have 568 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:48,799 whatever you do with special use. 569 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,080 >> Well, the garage would be a whole 570 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,799 different subject with the tenants. Um, 571 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,440 obviously the tents do not go with the 572 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:01,990 area. Doesn't go with the culture. And 573 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720 if 574 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600 the board's ready to vote, we'll vote on 575 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,320 it. 576 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080 >> One way. One way to approach this, it's 577 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,760 up to you, could be you could ask 578 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,440 yourself whether this applicant has 579 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,279 carried the burden of proving uh that 580 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,799 they're entitled to a special use 581 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,279 permit, reminding you of those criteria 582 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,760 that I had read to you earlier, which 583 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 included whether this request and you 584 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,480 seen what it is. He's asking, can I keep 585 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,140 this here? Do you think that that that 586 00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:32,159 [laughter] 587 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:35,039 existing use or continue continuation of 588 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,520 it would be in harmony with the orderly 589 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,240 development of that property and beyond 590 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,000 that uh allowing to stay there? Will it u discourage the appropriate 591 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,679 development of that land or adjacent 592 00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:49,440 lands? It might be easier to look at it 593 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,200 as to whether the applicant has proven 594 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,399 their case. Every applicant [laughter] 595 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:54,880 has to prove their case. So that might 596 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,720 be a way and your comments you know that 597 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,960 you have about it all dove tail into 598 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240 that that's the way you approach it 599 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,520 >> right it's kind of leads into the 600 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:12,149 question 601 00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:13,919 right 602 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:16,320 are you know my voice doesn't project 603 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,080 very well 604 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,070 um 605 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480 » okay what you're trying to do Are you 606 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,799 bringing in a tent in there? 607 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,640 >> Have you seen the pictures of this? 608 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,679 >> Tents are already there. 609 00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:31,760 >> It's right there. It's It's that green 610 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,029 canvasy 611 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:36,320 » structure. 612 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,799 >> What are they made of? 613 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,120 >> Tents. What are they made of? 614 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,399 >> This is Army Heavywe. 615 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:46,080 >> Yeah. Your attorney. Last time I was in 616 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,279 here, he thought, "Oh, the tent's going 617 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,399 to go up there. The wind's going to blow 618 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,159 apart. It's all look like crap in no 619 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:52,799 time." Been up for two years. Not 620 00:30:52,799 --> 00:31:00,866 nothing wrong. 621 00:31:00,876 --> 00:31:02,640 [snorts] 622 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,630 That's 623 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:20,310 another picture. 624 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,399 Is this visible? 625 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:26,870 Uh 626 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,120 the is the tent going to be taller than 627 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:35,590 the fence? 628 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840 » It's taller. Should be safe from 629 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,796 >> Okay. So, what about the tent or the uh 630 00:31:42,796 --> 00:31:44,720 [snorts] occupants of other houses down 631 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,559 that road? 632 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,960 >> There's no problem with anybody. Not 633 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200 one. 634 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,720 You know, you showing me these pictures. 635 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,919 Don't they had to be here in person? 636 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:55,120 They want to complain about this. 637 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,080 >> They do not. 638 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,519 >> No, they can send us correspondence. 639 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,440 >> Seems to me maybe Larry took those for 640 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,200 you supposed to be there. 641 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 >> It's irrelevant who took the picture. 642 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,240 >> The photographs depict the property as 643 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,080 it exists. 644 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,840 >> The thing is you're arguing over a tent 645 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640 that I want to come down myself. The 646 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600 application is in again for the garage a 647 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,519 month and whatever. I came in a week 648 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,640 before I don't know where the meeting. 649 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,279 >> So you are you going to be using this or 650 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,519 are you going to be taking this 651 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:32,310 >> down 652 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,240 is up as and if you look at the pictures 653 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000 you can see what the property is all 654 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,480 about. 655 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,159 >> So from the photographs 656 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:41,039 >> when when's your when's your plans for 657 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,880 doing the garage? This spring. 658 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,559 >> Maybe this spring. 659 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:48,399 >> Yeah. So this is just temporary. Yes, 660 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:51,279 that's what I'm doing. 661 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:52,960 temporary. There's things inside that 662 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,080 can't get wet. John, 663 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,519 >> you're on the contractor. That's what I 664 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,519 >> Well, he's in court right now and and 665 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,679 our office was asked to prosecute him. 666 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:01,440 Not just on the tents, but all of that 667 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600 stuff that's lying outside. So, if the 668 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,200 tent comes down, you got you don't 669 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,039 approve the tent. We'll continue with 670 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,799 our prosecution. We'll get an order to 671 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,399 clean all of that stuff off of the 672 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:12,159 property. It'll be taken somewhere else. 673 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:14,399 >> It's all coming up anyway. That's not 674 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:15,919 >> That'll work out well then. It's all 675 00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:17,200 coming up anyway. 676 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,960 But I think the delay it's been delayed 677 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,240 for Larry. How long has this been 678 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320 delayed for? 679 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,600 >> How long has this been going on, Larry? 680 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,799 >> More than two years, I think. 681 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,880 >> More than two years. 682 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,799 >> So, probably enough time to submit an 683 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,840 application for a true garage. 684 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480 >> It's redone. 685 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,320 >> But he can and he's allowed to pursue a 686 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,200 storage building. 687 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,519 >> Yes. 688 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,360 >> And he can and he can move stuff into it 689 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760 once it's built. But I think the issue 690 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,120 has been it's been this for some time. 691 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,200 So, but again, it's it's a special use 692 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,279 permit. He has to prove he's entitled to 693 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,120 the special use permit as the code is 694 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,799 written. So, you would have to make 695 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,120 findings saying yes, what I what we see 696 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,559 here is in harmony with that 697 00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:57,840 neighborhood. Is that what that 698 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,519 neighborhood looks like? Generally 699 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,200 speaking, 700 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,240 >> that's one way to look at it. 701 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,279 >> I don't. 702 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,960 >> It's up to you. You guys can vote for it 703 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,359 or you don't have to. No. Right. Right. 704 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:13,190 So, 705 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,919 you ready to vote? We'll 706 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:19,200 do a roll vote. I'll start first. I say, 707 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,800 Mr. Action, I vote no for permit for 708 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,079 special use. If you're taking the tents 709 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,399 down, you're cleaning it out and you're 710 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,200 going to build a garage. 711 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,159 I don't see why you need a special use 712 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,320 permit for that. 713 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,480 So, Tory, I'm opposed. Also, I don't 714 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,919 know how long it's going to take to 715 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:44,639 actually get the permanent garage built 716 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,040 if it goes through. And I mean, this 717 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,119 time can be here for multiple years 718 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,599 again. 719 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,720 >> The tenant has to come down immediately 720 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:55,280 service. 721 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,079 >> Correct. But we don't know when you're 722 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,400 going to build that garage. When 723 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,839 >> Well, you ask yourself because the 724 00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:04,240 permit or the application is in for the 725 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,119 garage. It's right there. You say yes, 726 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,960 it'll start tomorrow. But you've been 727 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,359 saying no for two years 728 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,200 >> and I gave you everything you wanted for 729 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000 that garage. You got the variance from 730 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 the dot or whoever the hell it was and 731 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,440 everything else. So what's that? 732 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,760 Because every time I come in here, Larry 733 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,680 says, "Oh, you got to know when the 734 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,599 birds fly over, what color of the grass 735 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,680 is going to be garbage." 736 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,000 >> I remember these violations that I had 737 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,079 on my house. You know, you want a 738 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:35,520 lawsuit here because this is where it's 739 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,200 legal. Okay. There's no proof. Anything 740 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,390 done at my property by me. 741 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,359 There's something here that just doesn't 742 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:48,800 >> probably be driven over to look the 743 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,160 property person. 744 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,960 >> No, I will tomorrow. 745 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640 >> Unfortunately, he's already lost because 746 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,960 two people have voted no. So, his 747 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,079 application 748 00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,520 >> your application is tonight. 749 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,960 >> But Paul, I do think you should take a 750 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,839 look at it 751 00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:04,240 >> for a special use permit. Yeah, 752 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,680 >> but Paul, you should you should go one 753 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,040 way or the other if you want. 754 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,400 >> You want I'll meet you there. I'll give 755 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,320 you a tour. 756 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,720 >> Okay. Where your address? 757 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,839 >> 8964 Green Road. Right next to where the 758 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:20,310 Bible return 759 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,000 right by the when you cross before you 760 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920 cross the creek going into Bridgeport. 761 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:31,750 >> Okay. 762 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,200 So there's a call. There's a vote 763 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,119 called. So either you have to vote yes 764 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,079 to approve it, no to say like the other 765 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,200 two gentlemen did, or you can abstain, 766 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,480 which isn't going to matter because it's 767 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040 not the approval is not going to. 768 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,359 >> Now that I know exactly it is kind of to 769 00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:51,920 me, it looks like it's not going to 770 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,920 impact 771 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,040 much. There's already a store there. If 772 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,119 anything, my property has improved the 773 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,440 neighborhood. So, even with all the junk 774 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,680 you have in the pictures, it isn't mine. 775 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,870 >> Which way are you going? Yes or no? 776 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,200 » So, it's two against, one in favor. It 777 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,520 fails because it needs three to be 778 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040 approved. 779 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,240 So now there's a pending court case that 780 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,400 will be pursued to uh obtain 781 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,960 [clears throat] an order to have 782 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,119 everything removed from the property 783 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,760 that's not properly, you know, inside of 784 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400 a building. Not not he can keep it all. 785 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,880 He's got to move it off off of the yard 786 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,720 and the tent 787 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,839 and he can pursue his garage and do 788 00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,079 work. So that's clearly fine. And then 789 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,079 if he's got it stored somewhere else, he 790 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:45,760 can move it all back into his garage. 791 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440 Yeah, absolutely. You can pursue your 792 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359 garage. Yeah, it's not a problem. 793 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:52,000 >> The application is in right now. Same 794 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240 time as they have it on the agenda for 795 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,320 next month then be ready to go. Yeah, 796 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,160 but but he's gonna Meanwhile, our office 797 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,839 is going to prosecute the violations. 798 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:03,599 >> Yeah. You want me to put you want to get 799 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,200 on the agenda for your garage next 800 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200 month? 801 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,200 >> No, you're not following what I'm 802 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,680 saying. 803 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,119 >> I I [laughter] follow exactly what 804 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:12,640 you're saying. Why aren't we? 805 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640 >> But but the thing of it is is what the 806 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640 business was tonight is your special use 807 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880 for for your tent. That was the business 808 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,560 tonight. 809 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,720 >> No, both things were on that 810 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,200 application. 811 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,960 >> Well, even even if anything [laughter] 812 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,880 had been approved, it doesn't mean you 813 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,119 get to keep it in violation. That the 814 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:32,960 amount of fines that are building up on 815 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520 this property are potentially staggering 816 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,040 when you look at every day as a 817 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,880 violation. So, I think it's good to sort 818 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,079 of cut it off now. 819 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,560 >> Yeah. But he can Yes, he can pursue it. 820 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,400 Yeah. 821 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400 >> So, Mr. Would you like to be on the 822 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,760 agenda for next month? 823 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,480 >> Yes. 824 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,160 >> Okay. So, we're going to put you on the 825 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,920 agenda for next month and we're going to 826 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,920 discuss your garage. Okay. 827 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,839 >> Larry, Larry, what does he need? Larry, 828 00:38:57,839 --> 00:38:59,359 what does he need for that garage? They 829 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:01,119 have to be 830 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,599 >> everything you needed. Uh, all of a 831 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,200 sudden, Larry brought in wanted to 832 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,000 change my house for three family and I 833 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,839 we're talking about the garage. I know. 834 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:11,520 >> What does he have to have for plans and 835 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,200 drawings for this board? 836 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,760 >> Drawing. 837 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,960 >> Okay. 838 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,079 >> Prepared by hope 839 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:17,599 >> slab or 840 00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:20,560 >> it can be done a bigger garage. 841 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,720 >> It's the same 24 by 46. 842 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:23,760 >> Okay. Do [clears throat] we have all 843 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,520 that now for next month's meeting? You 844 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,400 know, 845 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,480 >> I would have to have foundation plan 846 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,240 building application filled out or 847 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:32,560 anything. 848 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,480 >> Okay. Then I don't know 849 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,160 >> that I think he's referring to we filled 850 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,560 out was for this special use permit 851 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,480 >> for the for the temporary correct 852 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,320 whatever the temporary [laughter] 853 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,320 >> am I going to take it out both were on 854 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,400 that you and both were there you both 855 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,520 said put it into the meeting 856 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,087 second 857 00:39:52,087 --> 00:39:52,320 [laughter] 858 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200 >> this was happened from day one nowhere 859 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,800 >> you guys have other 860 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680 >> Yep. So, 861 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,520 we'll be you'll be here next month and 862 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,400 we'll talk about about your 863 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,040 um your garage. 864 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,200 >> All right. What about the back stairs? I 865 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,190 gave you the drawing for that. 866 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,160 » Your stairs. 867 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200 >> Yeah, that's one of the violations. 868 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,160 >> Yeah, that's that's not us. That's going 869 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:20,720 to court. 870 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,280 >> That's going That's not us, sir. Hey, as 871 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,480 you said, I had to come to you for 872 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,560 special use permit. So, she knew my 873 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,160 service. 874 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,839 >> I got your permit right in front of me 875 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,800 right here. And here it states you're 876 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,079 looking for a permit for a 24x 46 877 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:39,910 temporary tent. 878 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,550 >> Thank you. 879 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,150 » Tell me one thing. 880 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,640 » Well, tell them it is. Did we talk about 881 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,320 this? Why am I here if you're just going 882 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,920 to ignore it and let it go? 883 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,880 >> Everything that was on the property had 884 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,119 >> Okay, there they are. You hear that? 885 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,520 >> I brought you the drawings specifically 886 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400 with a picture and you ignore it. 887 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200 >> The your application is for your tent, 888 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,720 sir. That's it. 889 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:11,520 >> No, it's not. 890 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,720 >> It's done. 891 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:19,030 >> It's over. 892 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,839 the applicant pursuant. 893 00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:25,440 See, it's a permit for 24x 46 temporary 894 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,589 tent. 895 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,960 Add new 36 in entrance door to the front 896 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,680 left of the home. 897 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,440 That's what your application is for. 898 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,960 That's it. That's what your application 899 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,599 is for. 900 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,319 Um 901 00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:48,079 there is no date 902 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:49,280 >> there. There should be a date on 903 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,119 application. They don't have 904 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,880 >> I could tell you that there's a date 905 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040 where it says date application completed 906 00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,309 but there's no date filled out blank. 907 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:09,629 Let me 908 00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:31,899 [clears throat] 909 00:42:31,909 --> 00:42:34,309 » [snorts] 910 00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:36,880 » Okay. [laughter] Yeah. Want to come on 911 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:48,150 up? 912 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,109 » Okay. So, 913 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,040 we have 914 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:09,990 chickens. 915 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,200 We're in the what? 916 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,119 >> Neighborhood. 917 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:18,390 I mean, 918 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,720 does anybody have any questions here? 919 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,880 >> You're in a MR12. 920 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,880 So, can I ask? So, before you decided to 921 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,359 purchase these tickets and bring them to 922 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:33,520 your home. Did you think there was any 923 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440 kind of regulations on that with the 924 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,560 town? 925 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,560 >> So, um, in couple of streets throughout 926 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,160 our time living in Lake before where we 927 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,520 live, there have been people with 928 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,000 chickens. So, we didn't realize that. 929 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040 >> Well, there was a woman up on Lafayette 930 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520 and they had chickens. Her chickens are 931 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,359 all gone. 932 00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:56,880 They were taken off the property. 933 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,760 because you're in an MR12, 934 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,720 you know, it's not there's a lot all 935 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,040 that green right behind you on that map, 936 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,400 that's all agricultural land. 937 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,599 About that map, it's [clears throat] 938 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,480 interesting. Um, our neighbors uh ways 939 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200 down, they have 13 acres. They're also 940 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,000 in MR12 because they live like on the 941 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,319 wrong side of 31, I guess you could say. 942 00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:22,160 And I don't understand why they couldn't 943 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,160 have chickens either. It's just the way 944 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,200 it's zoned. 945 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,760 Yeah. 946 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,200 >> Yeah. I I don't know. 947 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,160 >> 12 high density neighborhood. 948 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,720 >> They have 13 acres. I [laughter] know we 949 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,400 don't have 13. I know we have almost a 950 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,829 half acre of land. 951 00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:44,480 » We have neighbors on three sides instead 952 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,720 of four. 953 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,960 >> If somebody came in here with an MR2, 954 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520 they had 13 gres 955 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,079 and they had six or 10 chickens. They 956 00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:59,040 got a lot more spots to put those sh 957 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,640 >> Yeah, we have a a pen that's 13 feet by 958 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,680 four feet, 959 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,280 >> right? But they don't have a neighbor. 960 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,880 >> Well, about the neighbors, we have 961 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,040 actually met more neighbors than we ever 962 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,720 had except they come and visit us and 963 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,880 say hi. Just because we have chickens, 964 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,560 we've met the most neighbors ever this 965 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,880 past summer. 966 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,000 >> I know it's sad, but it's 967 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,839 regulations. 968 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:33,750 that we can ask for. 969 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,119 » Just do you have any other 970 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:38,480 questions for him? Anything you'd like 971 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,309 to talk about? 972 00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:47,510 Just feeling 973 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,319 I don't know what it is. 974 00:45:50,319 --> 00:46:01,670 I understand why 975 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,160 >> Almost a half acre. 976 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,880 But you look at that 977 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,040 half acre. You got a very nice house 978 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,240 sitting on that acre. Half acre. You got 979 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,720 it. It's got a attached garage. Then you 980 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,359 have a second garage. It's a good size 981 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,440 garage. And then you have a swimming 982 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,960 pool. 983 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,440 Then you have a deck and it takes all 984 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,160 that away. 985 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,160 >> And we have a large side yard or 986 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,520 whatever you call it. 987 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,240 >> Front yard. 988 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,119 >> Whatever you want to call it. 989 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:35,119 >> When you live down by the lake, anything 990 00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,520 the lake is your front yard, 991 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,800 right? 992 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,920 >> Yeah. It doesn't really matter what you 993 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560 call it. It's just it's a nice part of 994 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,319 land we have there. 995 00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:49,349 Um, 996 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:51,359 are you are you ready? Do you want to 997 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,119 vote on it or do anybody have any more 998 00:46:53,119 --> 00:47:00,870 questions or anything more clear up? 999 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,400 » Remember, 1000 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,319 >> all three of you have to vote in favor 1001 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:07,440 of it to for it to get approved because 1002 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,440 of the way the rules work in your state. 1003 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,920 Your five person board takes three to 1004 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,670 approve it. 1005 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,480 Okay. 1006 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,480 >> So, does that mean we can come back and 1007 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,920 verify? 1008 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,720 >> You can, but 1009 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:27,317 hearing this more often. 1010 00:47:27,317 --> 00:47:31,910 [laughter] 1011 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,680 So, I just want to make sure. 1012 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,359 >> Yeah. 1013 00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:39,520 I I I'm so confused because like 1014 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,079 chickens are really beneficial with 1015 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,000 their eggs and with what they do like 1016 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,240 the eating like bugs and things that 1017 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,640 aren't helpful. I don't I understand 1018 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,560 like I mean places usually allow 1019 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,079 chickens. I don't really understand 1020 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,160 what's so harmful to them. 1021 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,800 >> Free rolling chicken. No, 1022 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,280 >> they have a cage and it's a a tractor so 1023 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,040 we can move it around the yard so that 1024 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,839 it can a it's sanitary for the chickens 1025 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,720 and it also is he cleans it up every 1026 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,710 day. So that 1027 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,440 » you can you can only approve up to six. 1028 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,280 You're not allowed to approve more than 1029 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,760 six 1030 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,319 >> six. [clears throat] 1031 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:18,079 >> I know they like to have 10, but it's 1032 00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,040 you don't have that power. 1033 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,800 >> So I will ask this question. Do you want 1034 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,480 to wait till the next month until 1035 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,400 there's five or do you want us to vote 1036 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,000 on it tonight? 1037 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,960 >> That's your choice. 1038 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,720 >> But if the moratorium's in place, you 1039 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,720 can't you can't vote on it, but that the 1040 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,119 application's frozen by our moratorum. 1041 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,960 So, 1042 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,559 >> Tom, we're voting on that moratorium 1043 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:41,119 tomorrow, right? 1044 00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:42,000 >> That's what I thought. 1045 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,480 >> Yeah. I don't I didn't I didn't I don't 1046 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,839 know what the board's going to do. I'm 1047 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:47,839 not sure if they're gonna vote in favor 1048 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,839 of the moratorium or not. 1049 00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:50,720 little bit of 1050 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,319 >> Can you explain? I don't really 1051 00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:53,440 understand the moratorum. 1052 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,240 >> No, you're right. I'm sorry. So, so in 1053 00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:00,160 land use, sometimes in land use, a tool 1054 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,079 that a town has is to recognize that if 1055 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,920 we want to pass a law and there's some 1056 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,400 pending applications and things, we can 1057 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,720 call a timeout. Town call timeout 1058 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,400 through a moratorum. The law moratorium 1059 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,079 means to stop. We're not going to 1060 00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,480 consider any more. might be a wind farm, 1061 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,680 might be garages or whatever. Could be 1062 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,880 anything. In your case, if that the 1063 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,200 proposed law, the mortorium has to do 1064 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,680 with foul exactly what you want to do 1065 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,804 and gets approved tomorrow night. It 1066 00:49:29,804 --> 00:49:30,720 [clears throat] freezes every 1067 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:34,319 application in place until the town 1068 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:36,319 board decides what they want to do with 1069 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:39,119 those regulations. So then they if they 1070 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:40,559 do it then they have I think we did it 1071 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,559 for six months or a year, I forget. Then 1072 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:43,280 they have to [clears throat] sit down 1073 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,720 and work out are we going to change the 1074 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,160 regulations? How would we like them to 1075 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,640 read? And it happens quite more than you 1076 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,720 think, but most recent ones we've been 1077 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:53,520 doing have been wind laws and solar 1078 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,319 projects and things like that. So that 1079 00:49:56,319 --> 00:49:57,839 just gives you an idea. But in this 1080 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:00,880 case, this one deals with chicken. 1081 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,880 >> So does that mean that a lot of our 1082 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,640 community members in Sullivan County 1083 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040 want for Sullivan want to have chickens? 1084 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,520 Is that 1085 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,119 >> No, it doesn't mean any one way or the 1086 00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,440 other. just just means that the board 1087 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,760 was was asked to consider a moratorum 1088 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,280 because the town had been getting a 1089 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,720 whole bunch of chicken applications 1090 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:17,280 recently. 1091 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,559 >> So, it sounds like they do. 1092 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,239 >> You are you are like the last latest 1093 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,520 [clears throat] in a in a 1094 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,720 >> a lot of chickens. 1095 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,400 >> I'll say this, your application is by 1096 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,134 far the best. You guys are the 1097 00:50:26,134 --> 00:50:27,599 [clears throat] most wellprepared. 1098 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:29,599 Explain yourselves really well. But the 1099 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:32,319 underlining issue is can does a town 1100 00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:35,440 want to consider allowing chickens in 1101 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,119 certain areas? And that's that's where 1102 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,440 you got caught up in a moratorum for 1103 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,319 now. 1104 00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:42,079 >> But if the board comes back, oh, we're 1105 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,680 just going to keep allowing it, then you 1106 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,359 can you can still be considered for or 1107 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:46,480 if they go, "No, we're not doing this." 1108 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,405 Then you're going to be out of luck. But 1109 00:50:48,405 --> 00:50:49,359 [laughter] 1110 00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:50,640 the other problem you have, there's only 1111 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,319 three board members here tonight. One of 1112 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:55,280 them says, "I I'm not comfortable that 1113 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,400 you really aren't going to get those 1114 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,359 chickens, 1115 00:50:57,359 --> 00:50:58,160 >> right?" 1116 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,880 >> So then if we went with a moratorum, 1117 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,559 would we be able to keep the chickens 1118 00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,280 during that time? Technically, well, 1119 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,040 you'd be in violation. 1120 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,800 >> Technically, you'd be in violation. It's 1121 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,000 not a 1122 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 >> even though it's not decided yet. 1123 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,200 >> Yeah. Because you're not approved to 1124 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,920 have the chickens right now. It's such a 1125 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,200 catch 22 different sides. It's a little 1126 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,960 weird. It's a very strange situation. 1127 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,480 Yeah. If you have the chickens, you're 1128 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,680 probably supposed to have gotten that 1129 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,599 special use permit before. You could 1130 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:26,960 have. I don't know if you would have. 1131 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,599 >> And meanwhile, you know, [clears throat] 1132 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:36,319 are you prosecuting this or is uh Kim. So we have a animal control officer 1133 00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:38,000 and that that falls under her 1134 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,240 jurisdiction. 1135 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:41,599 >> It does sound like the people wanting 1136 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:45,430 chickens. [laughter] 1137 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,589 Um, 1138 00:51:49,599 --> 00:52:00,630 » I guess we're at your mercy. 1139 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,240 » Regardless, we can only approve up to 1140 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,319 six. 1141 00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:06,000 >> We do have friends who really would like 1142 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,520 our chickens, the four chickens, because 1143 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,281 they lay eggs really well. 1144 00:52:10,281 --> 00:52:18,950 [clears throat] 1145 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,716 Correct. 1146 00:52:22,726 --> 00:52:29,190 [clears throat] 1147 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,920 » They're just talking 1148 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,680 deliberations. You should give them a 1149 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,319 few minutes. 1150 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:39,746 >> Yes. 1151 00:52:39,756 --> 00:52:48,470 » [cough] 1152 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,390 » So whatever we do tonight, 1153 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,319 if you voted for it, if you voted 1154 00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:01,119 against it, it ends up 1155 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:05,829 taking in 1156 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:10,710 um what they either 1157 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,359 notori 1158 00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:15,119 that's that's the moratorum is going to 1159 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,960 be nine months 1160 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,720 >> nine months right 1161 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,119 >> I can't I can't remember was it a year 1162 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,200 or six or nine I can't remember 1163 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,599 >> I do so many I can't remember 1164 00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,440 >> it was a nine okay 1165 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,200 >> the middle 1166 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,440 >> so mortorium will be put in for nine 1167 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,480 months and they'll do a study for it and 1168 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,400 then after the nine months they'll 1169 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,960 decide if they want keep it or adjust 1170 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,200 it, tweak it. 1171 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:57,692 But everything will be frost angles. 1172 00:53:57,702 --> 00:54:03,349 [snorts] 1173 00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:10,230 Well, they can still come back. 1174 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,079 I think I think the issue is this. I'll 1175 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,280 cut right to it. If you don't vote and 1176 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,800 all three of you vote in favor for them 1177 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,040 to keep up to six chickens, they'll have 1178 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,119 to remove them because Kim's going to 1179 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:22,400 take them. So, 1180 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,680 >> yeah. 1181 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,760 >> If the moratorum, which does the 1182 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,832 moratorum passes or doesn't pass, 1183 00:54:27,832 --> 00:54:28,800 [clears throat] 1184 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,319 >> it doesn't matter because if you if you 1185 00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:31,599 didn't vote to allow them to keep the 1186 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:32,880 six chickens, they're still they're 1187 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,960 still going to get tickets for them. If 1188 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,599 the moratorum comes into place and they 1189 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,280 and the town board decides, yes, this is 1190 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,800 a great place for chickens, they can 1191 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,880 come back and apply for it again. They 1192 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,480 want to, but in the meantime, their 1193 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,640 chickens will have to 1194 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,160 go home to roost somewhere else. 1195 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:56,790 >> Yes. 1196 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040 » We'll do a low vote. 1197 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,960 I'll vote first. If anybody has 1198 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,119 any comments on why they vote the way 1199 00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,960 they are, they'd like to explain it to 1200 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,800 the people. 1201 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,680 But I'm going to vote nay. No. Yeah. I 1202 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920 don't believe chickens are belong down 1203 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,800 by the lake. I don't believe in an MR12. 1204 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,800 I mean, do you two people look like 1205 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,480 great? I'm sure you take very good care 1206 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,040 of your chickens 1207 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,200 in the summertime. That's a recreational 1208 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,400 area and 1209 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,559 people walk up and down roads and they 1210 00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:33,440 enjoy that area. It's highly dense. 1211 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:41,430 That's the reason why I vote. 1212 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,280 Unfortunately, I'm going to be voting no 1213 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,960 as well. 1214 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,680 I have nothing against freerange 1215 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,680 chickens or chickens in the tractor. 1216 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,280 I've seen it successfully done. Um, my 1217 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,079 concern literally is just with the size 1218 00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:59,760 of the property and approximately where 1219 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,920 the location of those chickens would be. 1220 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,400 If it was not on the main intersection, 1221 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,400 I think it would be different if it was 1222 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,549 in the back side of the property. 1223 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,119 Okay. [laughter] 1224 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:21,680 Um the fact that the town 1225 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000 board 1226 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,710 working on this too 1227 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,870 pass 1228 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:39,030 they go with it you 1229 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,549 know 1230 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:43,680 the chicken 1231 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,040 >> I'm sorry [laughter] I wish you would 1232 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,230 have done your homework. 1233 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:54,544 Thank you. 1234 00:56:54,554 --> 00:57:06,334 [laughter] 1235 00:57:06,344 --> 00:57:06,799 [snorts] 1236 00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,079 >> You said you couldn't find the date. 1237 00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,160 >> No, I don't think Jeff Taylor is here 1238 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,239 anyhow. 1239 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,549 >> [laughter] 1240 00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:22,470 » What was that, sir? 1241 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,079 » You're on You're on the agenda. Come 1242 00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:24,880 back next month. 1243 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,160 >> Yes, I said. 1244 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,240 >> Okay, we'll see you next month on your 1245 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,160 garage. [snorts] 1246 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,040 >> What day is that? 1247 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,240 >> Um I believe that's six 1248 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,520 >> first Tuesday. 1249 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,280 Let me check. It's the 1250 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,200 first Tuesday of April 1251 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,880 >> at 6:45. 1252 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,000 >> 6:45. 1253 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,520 >> No, no, no public hearing. 1254 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,720 >> No public hearing. 1255 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,559 >> Sorry. 1256 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,480 >> I'll be here. 1257 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,720 >> 7. Yeah. 1258 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,000 >> 7:00. 1259 00:57:52,000 --> 00:58:03,750 >> Thank you. 1260 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:10,950 » Yeah. Gota have real 1261 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,810 » should be in two weeks before the actual 1262 00:58:13,810 --> 00:58:14,960 [laughter] 1263 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,280 >> understood. Okay. Uh the old business is 1264 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,440 Jeff Taylor, but I don't believe he's 1265 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:19,920 here. 1266 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,640 >> I don't think he's here. Rick Myers, he 1267 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,599 didn't show up. 1268 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,119 >> He called. 1269 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,559 >> Yeah. And as to be 1270 00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:28,480 >> the gentleman in the back with a hat on. 1271 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,160 >> Sorry. 1272 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,920 >> Rick will be here next month. He didn't 1273 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,680 >> I was here for that tonight. 1274 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,440 I was here for the tickets. [laughter] 1275 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,839 >> Go make an offer. 1276 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,000 >> They're for sale. 1277 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,640 >> Rick's gonna be here next month. Talk. 1278 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,319 Give us what information about 1279 00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:49,760 population density creating it. 1280 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,800 >> Where are we going? 1281 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,160 [laughter] 1282 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,280 >> I should have never said anything about 1283 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,839 your hair. 1284 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:57,349 >> Yeah. 1285 00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,520 » All right. Can I have a motion close to 1286 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,470 >> here? 1287 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,359 All in favor? 1288 00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:22,309 >> Yeah. 1289 00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:29,190 » The three meetings. 1290 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,160 So there's there's your