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» now 6 o'clock and it is my distinct Oh yeah, sorry. It is now 6 o'clock and
it's my distinct honor and privilege to call to order the regular town council
meeting of August 24th, 2026 for the town of Surfside Beach. Please stand as
we begin with an invocation from Mark of Discover Church.
That's right. Father, what a privilege it is to uh
come before you to this evening on behalf of this gathering, the people
gathered here. I thank you for the leadership of uh this town council. I
pray that you would bless them
for all those that are gathered here that you would bless them in this time
that uh that uh just give them a a sense of understanding
uh that they would know the love of Christ in this place. That they would
know that uh that you've made a sacrifice for every single person in
this room, Lord. and uh and that they would come to know you in that way if
they don't. Father, would you bless this time? Would it be uh would it give you
honor and glory? And uh would you would you help it to be fruitful and to
accomplish all that it needs to be done? Your word tells us that you've provided
everything we need for life and for godliness. And I pray that it would be
so during this meeting. And as you do that, we'll give you praise because we
ask it in the powerful name of Jesus. And everyone said, "Amen."
» Amen. >> Amen. [clears throat]
» I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> I thank you very much.
» I will now entertain any motions related to the agenda.
All right. Hearing none, we'll move on to minutes approval.
» Mr. Mayor, >> I
» I move that we approve the minutes for uh August 10th, 2026.
[clears throat] >> Second.
» Any discussion? All in favor?
» I opposed. None. Motion carries and meeting uh minutes are approved. We'll
now move on to public comments related to agenda items only.
All right, I see no public comment, so we'll go into communications. We'll
begin with the uh sled uh presentation from Mr. Ryan Cummings, uh lead cyber
threat intelligence analyst. >> Mr. Mayor, I be in two minutes.
» We will wait two minutes.
» No, I don't think we want to do that. You know, you're not going to do the
administrator's report in two minutes, right?
» I can. >> You want to [laughter]
go ahead. Go ahead. Do give me a free Mr. Mayor and council. Um, couple
updates for you. Uh, the bids for the courthouse count council chamber project
were publicly opened on August the 11th. There were five bids received from the
opening day. The price ranged from 4 million to 4.5 million including
contingency. The apparent low bid is BEC construction out of Merles Inland. Um,
Creek and Associates will verify unit costs, check references, review with the
owners of similar projects, and then report back to council on September the
8th on the September 8th agenda. The budget for this project was $4.
» Secondly, the purchase of the land with the public works complex, we closed on
this property on August the 17th. The next steps for uh director Adair and um
director Roder is to reszone the property to PL public land sending
planning commission for their review as it relates to the comprehensive plan.
Selectively remove the tree canopy engineer and design the new building.
The proposed building will match the existing buildings for a building size
of 120 ft by 25 ft and the budget for this project is 250,000.
And lastly, with the approval of the contract with Bolton and Ming, staff
will begin coordinating a kickoff meeting for the public to attend and
give their input for the morning field master plan. And then you have the HR
report attached. >> Thank you. Any questions, comments for
uh Mr. Vincent? [clears throat]
» Yeah, I guess I have one. >> Um, so the bids came in between four and
four and a half million. Um, did that include the soft costs of furniture and
that sort of thing? That does not include the soft cost. So, we've been
going on through that for last week. So, we're adding up the solve cost to about
280,000. >> Okay. Um, and how much do we currently
have in the the the fund to to to do this?
» So, our total project was $4 million that we budgeted aside.
» But how much do we actually have? Right. >> I don't have that number with me.
Listen, >> are you you're going to cover that?
» We budgeted four million. We'll have to come back to council.
» Okay. Um because we're also John's building. We have to we're looking at
doing that as well. Correct. >> We already budgeted that.
» Okay. Yeah. Okay. >> All right.
I I got a question couple of questions. So would you explain the contingency
portion? >> Yes. So the actual bid price was
approximately 3.8 and I believe I sent you guys their contingency on their
project was like 198,000. Contingency is any error or of unit cost per the bid.
So there may be some unit costs. By the time they do the implementation and
building of this project, those costs may have gone up. So that contingency is
ours. If they don't use it, it goes back to the town.
» Okay. And then um so with the uh reszoning and planning commission uh
their review to the comprehensive plan um we're looking for that in the next
meeting or so >> as soon as we can get the advertisement
we'll put on the next agenda for >> Okay. They meet September 1st I probably
the October meeting. >> It'll be October.
» Okay. Okay. Uh and then uh assuming we get that uh go ahead. Um what do we
target the uh tree clearing and uh property clearing and the building to
start? Is that going to be going on this uh in the winter season?
» Probably November, December time. >> We could start. We we underbrushed it on
Saturday. There's nothing in the PL designation that's used for the
district. So nothing's going to stop us. It's more of a formality than anything
else PL because the use is allowed in the district. So, we're just going to do
the clearing, then we're going to do the fencing, and then we're going to bid out
the building. So, that'll put us into the winter, probably.
» Okay. Okay. So, probably December, maybe January before starts. Okay. All right.
That's all I have. Thank you. >> Anybody else?
» Yeah, Mr. Hi. >> Yeah, I have a few questions, but
they're about the HR report. >> Um, first one is on full-time employees.
I'm wondering if it would be possible and not a lot of work to break that out
by department instead of just for the whole town.
» That would be fun. >> Okay. Thank you on that. Um and then on
the back page highlights it says launched a new employee assistance
program effective July 1. Is that something that the town council needs to
review and approve or is that just something that's done in house?
» It's an employee assistance program. So is it's a part of the medical health
benefits we have which is changing from one group to another.
» So we don't the council doesn't have any role to play in that change.
» Not the AP. Yes sir. >> Okay. Um and then
I had a question of uh it says here implemented pay study results and
recommendations effective July 5th. I was just wondering how the costs of that
new pay study are tracking with the original estimates.
» What we budgeted is exactly the pay study.
» So it's Oh, okay. So it's tracking perfectly then is the answer.
» Yes. >> Okay. Thank you.
» I've got a second. Nobody else has a first.
» Anybody else? >> Just Laura. Go ahead.
» Okay. Kind of related to the pay study. Um, we we've talked about this two or
three times, but at one point we discussed a 2 to threeyear plan for the
older employees or the longerterm employees to try to help get them a
little closer to where they should be. I know we didn't do a lot of it up front
because of the cost and that kind of thing. I just I just want to make sure
we don't lose the bubble on that. You know, I I because I'm just concerned
that there are guys that have been here 20 25 years and and they really didn't
reap the benefit of this pay study thing.
» We're not going to lose sight of that. I mean, basically maybe a six-month review
just to see what the cost would be to hit those higher employees that were
been here the longest. >> Okay. Well, and maybe for the budget
next year, you know, see what we can do. I I understand it's probably going to be
a two to threeyear process. Um, I just want to make sure we don't forget it.
» Right. I think we need to set guidelines. So, is it 20 years or more
or is it 15 years or more for those employees?
» Okay. All right. Thanks.
» All right. With that, we'll move on. And uh, is Mr. Cummings here now?
» Yes. >> Come on up.
» Where you guys want me? There you go. Right. Right here. [laughter]
Okay,
» got it. Um, I made a [laughter] presentation. Uh, I mean, I don't
necessarily need Oh, you guys have to print it out. That's perfect.
» Do you need a copy? >> No, I don't need one.
» Unfortunately, I've talked about this so many times.
» Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. >> Yes.
» Is the presentation going to be projected for the audience?
» Doesn't sound like he has a projection of it. I have um a copy of it on USB
drive, but that could work. >> We don't have a laptop.
» We don't keep a laptop. There we go. >> All right, let's do it.
» You're super laggy. >> All right. [laughter]
Okay, we'll take a minute.
» Is this on? >> Yeah,
it's probably not on. Oh, really?
Good job. >> Good job.
I just got a notice to make sure all council members, everybody speaking the
microphone when we're speaking. Some of it's not being picked up too well.
[clears throat]
Okay. I hope everybody can see it, but if not,
I'll do pretty good job of [laughter] just kind of explaining it and breaking
it down as to how it happens. And some of the pictures are kind of just there
to look at and they're not necessarily for a major purpose. Um, but I'm here
today to talk about how payment fraud affects South Carolina organizations.
So, um, I work for SLED and I work for our critical infrastructure cyber
security division. Uh, we deal with payment fraud almost once a week at this
point. And so, what I'm going to do today is kind of break down how it
happens, the different ways bad actors are doing it. and um just kind of shed
light on the situation and at the end kind of not necessarily give my
recommendations to the town because I'm not sure exactly how it's done but how
the recommendations that we give pretty much any organization that this happens
to and it's pretty simple just you know extra verification
so um what we do at least my organization is we provide security
services and disseminate cyber threat intelligence to South Carolina's
critical infrastructure we facilitate the cyber leazison officer
program which is essentially we have contacts at all these organizations we
support and we work with them to kind of better their cycle programs. We lead a
lead a task force that's comprised of federal and state partners. I'll kind of
go over that in the next slide but generally um we're here to improve the
overall cyber posture of South Carolina.
So this is the task force. It's um bunch of state federal organizations,
Department of Administration. We work really closely with the Department of
Homeland Security, the FBI especially on a lot of these cases when it comes down
to prosecution and actually the Secret Service. Um they are the ones we
primarily pass these cases to and they handle a lot of the prosecution aspects
of it. So um to start off with how payment
fraud works, I decided to go over like the most common scenario that we see
birds and um that's when a vendor who works with an organization or you know a
statement surfite has one of their email accounts compromised. So what's on the
screen right now is an email that was reported to us from one of the cos one
of our partners at an organization around the state. They sent this to us
and said hey we don't not really sure what's going on here. We looked at it.
Um, we verified that this email came from a legitimate vendor that they did
the organization did work with. Um, one thing we found particularly interesting,
um, the email was right. It went to the right person at the organization. The
invoice had pretty much all the correct details on it. The right amount, what it
was for. The only thing that was different was the phone number and the
email signature. They changed one singular digit. So, when they sent this
to the procurement person at the victim organization, they tried to call the
number and they didn't get anything. Um, and so they did that intentionally. It
was just a broken phone number that led to nowhere. And so, the idea with these
is they got into the vendor's email, they just revise the invoice, and then
they sent it to the organization in hopes that they would pay it. And that's
the most common scenario that we see. Um, outside of that, there's another
pretty common one. um they'll compromise the vendor, right? They'll get in there,
kind of perform reconnaissance, you know, like analyze who the person they
compromise emails, who they work with, and they'll take that information and
then they'll create an email address pretty similar to the one that they
compromised and use that email the correct contacts and with fake invoices
trying to get them to pay it. Um, another really common one is vendor
spooping. So that's pretty much kind of like I just said, but without a
compromise. So the actual vendor doesn't get compromised whatsoever. So I um kind
of did an example and kind of went over like how could this be done at SLED and
kind of just break it down for everybody.
So SLED in particular in the state, they have the division of procurement
services. So it basically shows pretty much every state contract and the
vendors that work with the state. So I just went there first and looked at
state term contracts. Um, digital fingerprinting was one that stood out to
me. It's real small, but I put in a red square there. Um, because that sounds
like something that sled would do, digital fingerprinting. So, I was like,
okay, I mean, that's something I can kind of put myself in the mind of a
thread actor or somebody who's looking to perform fraud. So, I went and looked
further into digital fingerprinting and the actual project name. Um, so the
state actually says this is for sled use only. So, the state pretty much just
gave out, okay, Sled has a digital fingerprinting project. Um, they also
gave the name of the actual person that SLED is working with and the vendor who
sled is working with. So, if you're at a you can already start to get the wheel
spin a bit. We know Sled works withia Identity Solutions and we know that they
talked to a guy called J Truit at Idemia. And nothing against this company
or anything like that. It was just a random. Um, so now that we have all this
information together, we also have the contract end date and the contract start
date. In this case, it ends in 2029, so they're likely not going to use this
one, but I imagine the end date is in a couple weeks from now. So, next, they
can create an email. And this was just messing around to see if this would
work. Um, I created my email address. It looks pretty similar to the actual one.
I emailed procurement with a fake invoice. And I use the email signature I
just created. It looks pretty official. I um used the actual phone number of
this guy, but I just changed it by one digit. And I took a picture off of
Google and put it down in the corner. And what we have here is a pretty
legitimate email, the one for procurement that would probably get our
own procurement team if I'm being honest. Um it was well put together and
it took practically 5 to 10 minutes of research. And so, I mean, I go over this
purely just to show how easy it is. I mean, it takes pretty much no skill. I
mean, just sit down, do some research, and then send out emails. So, imagine if
you're a threat actor and this is your full-time job. You can send out hundreds
of these per day. Um, and yeah, you're bound to get successful with one or two
of them. So, the next thing that we see, it's
still kind of along the lines of payment fraud. Um, it doesn't relate to any
vendors actually. So, this would for example be something that would affect
like certified users in particular. So, um, we see these things all the time.
They're called credential harvesters. They're essentially a login screen
that's designed to look legitimate. So, it's designed to look like the actual
Microsoft 365 login screen. And so, attackers will send these in fishing
emails. Users will enter their enter their credentials into it. And then the
attackers can basically control their account. And skipped over a few steps
there, but so we see that that's a step one. and um instead of like pretending
to be a vendor, performer reconnaissance, they'll just use that
same account and go straight into the self-service portal or wherever they can
change the direct deposit, whether that's emailing HR or there's actually
like a portal like I have on the screen here. And now they'll simply just change
the direct deposit information. [clears throat]
And um one of the main things we see is we kind of mention this to so IT people
and people we work with share this with their HR or finance or accounting is
that pretty much all these directors are using a thing called green dot bank. And
this is a picture of direct direct deposit form. Um, it's something that we
see even in those vendor compromises that they're still using green.bank.
We tried to look into it, but for the most part, they're hard to subpoena and
kind of track down. And if this stuff isn't reported within like one to two
days, the money has already moved like three different hops. So, it makes
prosecution and tracking these people down very difficult for the law
enforcement side of things. So, that's where my organization comes in. So, my
team, we don't prosecute, we don't subpoena, we don't do anything on the
law side. or purely cyber security. So we try to then help help organizations
reduce fraud risk. And [clears throat] the biggest thing and the best thing
that helps in all these situations is just general process and policy
controls. Um we would encourage any organization to require mandatory
verification for all payments or vendor banking changes. Um verify requests
using a known phone number on file. Um, we saw in my example and the other one
that happened in real life that the phone number they had put in the email
has been changed. So, you can't just call the one from the email. You got to
enforce out of band confirmation. Basically, have the number on file and
then call that number to verify if you're speaking to the right person.
Um, similar to policy is just access and oversight. Um, there shouldn't be like
five different people at an organization that can um modify like invoices or
direct deposit. you know, it should always go through a two-step
verification process. And finally, and the reason I'm here and
the reason I do these talks pretty much everywhere, is just training awareness
to let people know that this is a thing that's happening all the time. And um we
always recommend using a real world example like I did here, just showing
how easy it is to do this type of thing and how common it genuinely is. I think
over like the last six months, we've seen close to two to three million
dollars lost on this type of scam. Um, and that's affecting people and users
from like weekly salary to major projects that organizations have sent to
the wrong person. Um, that's the NI slideshow. Sorry. Um,
but I'm happy to answer any questions that the council or anybody else has.
» All right. Thank you, sir. Any questions for Mr. Cummings?
» Sure. Mr. Lawhart. Um on the second slide uh there's this you talk about
disseminating cyber threat intelligence through through this critical
infrastructure set. Yeah. How does that stuff get disseminated down to the
municipalities?
» There's a couple ways. Um we're we have close relationships with the
municipality association um which they're a partner and we send them stuff
and we kind of hope that they hit the organizations that aren't currently
members of our program. Otherwise, it's kind of a anybody can join our program
and if you join our program, we're sending you stuff constantly. Um, we try
to build awareness by just going to events and speaking and advertising as
much as we can, but it's hard to get every single municipality or school
district or government entity in South Carolina. Um, there's no like law
enforcement that we have to say that you have to join. It's purely optional. And
so, I mean, I think a lot of organizations that don't fully
understand what the program's about are like, "No, we're good in cyber security.
We don't need it." At the end of the day, it's it's information sharing. So,
» yeah, it's an ongoing process that we're trying to get it out and trying to
increase our reach. But, >> and Jerry, do we participate in any of I
mean, are are we getting this type of information?
» We're members of MUN Association. >> Yeah.
» And if we're not, what do we need to do to do that?
» Well, right now, we've asked Heritage to kind of put some training above and
beyond what you guys see on your computers,
» right? Because because my concern I mean he said it u the threat changes all the
time right you know mos change all the time so what we might fix the problem a
problem from before and not be aware of the upcoming problems or things that are
on the horizon. So that would be my concern is that somehow we tap into the
intelligence side of things that's out there and that we develop a training
program that actually matches that. So I don't know how we do it but um
» but also the finance department the employees are a part of the government
finance offices association so they have seminars on this all the time which is
the most upto-date what's going on now with cyber crimes. All right. And then
um and this is probably a question for you all. Um the
slide right, but basically the recommendations on how to do this. I
know we've I know we've made some a lot of changes and I also know you've got an
upcoming briefing here to talk about another way to help fortify what we're
doing, but the the bullets he has here about how to reduce fraud risk. How much
of that has been incorporated into what we're doing currently? Well, it's going
to be a part of uh Melany's uh cash and distribution policy. I mean, that's
that's been updated to um Right. >> Yes.
» But yeah, no, but I Yeah, I know that. I guess my question is [clears throat]
he's got some reasonably specific recommendations in here um for how to
reduce risk. I I just want to make sure that we're we're taking the best of what
we can get to to update our process. >> Yes, we'll look at this and match it to
our new policy. >> And then lastly, the training and
awareness. Um, I know you guys are looking at that. Um, I to me that's the
most important part of this is us understand what to look for and that
gets back to the intelligence part and it gets back to training. So, I would
just strongly encourage we take full advantage of whatever's out there today.
» Yes, sir. >> Yeah. I'm I'm going to add to that and
say that uh um if SLED is working directly with MASC
that we make sure we're taking advantage of every bit of information that comes
through that that channel. >> And then um uh for Mr. Cummings, you
know, as I'm looking at how you reduce fraud risk, uh mandatory verification,
known phone numbers, uh out of band confirmation, uh etc. It really, if I
could summarize this, slow everything down. Don't respond to the urgency.
» Yeah, that's nail on the head 100%. Almost all the time, this happens when
somebody is overworked, moving too quickly, and does something they
probably wouldn't normally do if they had the time, just sit there and wait a
minute and think about it. You know, it's
» and that would that I believe that was a factor in our in our case. We were
responding to urgency uh repeated requests uh for payment. So, um, yeah.
So, that may, uh, anger some of our regular, uh,
contractors, but just too bad. We're just going to it's going to take an
extra week or two or whatever, >> and we're going to deal with it. I mean,
is that doable on our end? >> Oh, yeah.
» Okay, >> that's all I have. Thank you.
» And then one thing just on that topic, um, this presentation, I made this six
months ago before any of this even happened at Cerside. this this continued
to be such a relevant thing that so literally none of this really has
anything to do with the particular incident that happened here but it just
applies in so many different ways and different things that we see that keep
happening so it's not a single out search this presentation was entirely
about that it's just unbelievable how often this happens
» I appreciate it but you know and kind of the shoe fits kind of deal so you know
we get it m >> I have got a question and my question is
how come you can't keep tracing the money when it gets out? What what
happens that it gets gone and that you can't trace that money?
» Yeah. So, it's kind of a complicated process and it's kind of interesting
because the people who are actually doing this are not the same people that
are handling the money. Um, I'm not the best at this because I don't do much of
the money aspect, but there's people in the United States and they're called
they're in our industry referred to as like money rules. So they basically
launder the money for these out of state. Most of these people are either
in Eastern Europe, Russia, um name of choice, but they have groups of people
who specialize in moving money. That's all they do. And so they're able to once
they hit a bank account, hit another bank account. And who knows if those
bank accounts were created by the threat actors or they were just compromised
other bank accounts. So these the money before it hits its final place is going
through three or four different places and then being transformed into
cryptocurrency which is even harder to track. Um and it just moves so fast. Uh
this type of thing will get reported to us when the organization gets reported
to by the vendor. So like three months later the vendor is like hey where's the
money? And the organization says we already paid it. um then it's reported
to us and by that time the money has hit five different bank accounts has been
converted into two different cryptocurrencies and
is God knows where. Um that said we've had luck in prosecuting these people and
actually taking these people to court but it needs to be reported within like
the first two to three days or the money is pretty much lost. And the banks are
doing their best, too. I we work with them to kind of make them aware of what
it looks like. But there's just so many ways that people are getting around it
and being creative with it by using actual real people's bank account to
funnel money through it. And that person has no clue what's happening or there's
just so many different ways to get around it and they move quick. And it's
like as soon as we adapt and we figure out the way they're doing it, they're
already on to the next one. The money is the hardest part. like we
can track the cyber part pretty simply and like understand that this is how
it's happening but the money is is still working on it.
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Hyatt, >> yeah, I have a few questions. You said
you were training this kind of information six months before the hitman
occurred in Surfside Beach. What did we miss that we didn't get that training?
How should we what did we should have been a part of in order to have received
that training six months earlier? Yeah, the um the our South Carolina critical
infrastructure cyber security program. And I mean, you know, understanding that
and coming here, I realized that we probably need to do a better job of
getting word out there and recruiting, you know, towns and organizations to
join our program because it's not just on search. If this information never
crossed certainly is not their fault that this information didn't get to them
and help them soon. >> I'm not trying to say it's anybody's
fault. I'm just wanting to know how we could have been a member and gotten the
information six months previously. I mean, yeah, to become a member, you just
I mean, contact anyone. We have a public website where you request to join the
program and you fill out a form and it's as easy as that. You're getting invites
to our webinars. You're getting emails about free cyber security services. Um,
you're getting bulletins sent out to you and we see this type of stuff happening.
It's pretty Yeah, you just signed up on the website and um it's scic.sc.gov
up and there's a request to join form, but I'm pretty sure at this point Town
Sera has joined the program. >> Okay. Um,
there's a SLED was a lead agency in this investigation, not our own police
department. They turned it over to SLED. We at some point should get a report,
you think, since we're the victim of what uh SLED has determined. How do we
get that report? >> Um, that's something I can take back to
my team. So, I wasn't the one who like firsthand investigated this case or
anything like that. So, um I can go back to the mask and we'll see if I can get
you guys something or at least a write up of what we found exactly.
» Okay. And then um I have a question on how this how this criminal works. So,
the criminal is outside the system. Does the criminal
enter the system with the vendor or does he enter the system with the payer or
does he enter the system with the vendor and then go to the payer? How do they
enter the system? >> Everything you said is an opportunity
for them. So yeah, they can enter with the vendor and find out who the vendor
is working with and I mean that's usually the most profitable route for
them because the vendor has multiple different customers paying them and they
can pretend to send new ones to each of those customers or they can get into the
actual victim's network, right? Understand who they're going to be
paying pretty soon and then create a new email pretending to be that person.
Exactly. I mean there's just multiple routes for it and all it takes is one
compromised email. >> So to answer your question, all of them
All the above. >> Yeah. Every single case it's we've seen
it with the victim organization, the vendor or somebody who just Googled who
the organization works with. I mean, it's all of them.
» Thank you. That's all I have. Mr. Mayor, >> Mr. Mayor Sean, [clears throat]
» Mr. Hy brought up a good point as far as how do we get involved in this sled
training? Um, and I don't want to assume that we're already doing this. Are we
doing this? Are we part of this train? We have not joined the sled program, but
we will. >> Okay.
Thank you.
» Thank you, Mr. Cummings. >> Thank you. I'm here happy to speak to
you guys. I love service many times. [laughter]
» Thanks for the plug.
» All right, we will uh move back to our director's reports. Well, we skipped or
we did the administrator's reports. We'll begin director's reports. So, uh,
Director Guber, kick us off.
» [clears throat]
» Good evening. Um, we're reporting on the month of July and of course July is a
beginning of a new fiscal year. So, at this point, you're going to see the
trend will be that our expenses are higher than our revenues until tax bills
go out. We start receiving that tax. Um, in July, we had 32 new businesses.
um nine in town, 12 out of town, six contractors, and five rentals. Um for
accommodations tax, we don't see the first quarter of that until about
October, November time period. And then for hospitality and local aid tax, the
first two months of what the um county sends to us gets back prior year because
it's prior year money. And then same with June, what we collect in June for
hospitality locally tax gets approved back to June. Um, sorry, what we what we
collect in July gets approved back to June. So, right now, you'll see that
there's no no revenue really yet for hospitality and tax. Um,
for capital projects, I just put a little reminder of what the projects are
for this fiscal year. We're um doing the road paving.
uh Martin Park master plan, the Fuller Park pickle ball courts, um finishing
the floral clubhouse renovation, sidewalks, we started the life cycle
maintenance program for all our buildings, and of course the court and
council chamber building. Um storm water collected 18,000 through July. There's
no major projects at this time. So we are approving that money for the next
big project. Um on the enterprise funds uh we had 74,000 in operating revenue
and of which 36 of that 74 was for parking and then um expenses are 16,000
for July. Sanitation revenues are 277,000.
Our expenses are 76,000. And then our parking for July is 111,000
and our expenses are 1.4. Um the investment pool the interest rate
remains consistent at 3.9 which is good. Um
so basic overview during the month of July the finance department works in two
fiscal years. Um we work throughout August to collect prior year revenues
and pay prior year expenses to acrew back to June to complete fiscal year 26.
Um the finance department also has a very been very busy collecting the data
and answering questions for the audit. Um which they were there last week. So
so we've been answering lots of questions. Uh everything's been going
great with them and that's all I got. >> All right. Thank you very much. I think
the uh July report is always kind of skinny.
» It is. [laughter] >> It's kind of hard to to draw any
conclusions at this point. Are there any questions, comments for director
Groover? >> Mr. Mayor,
» go ahead. Sean, go ahead. >> Um, under the
uh the first page, you said five rentals. Are they new rentals
or are they just rentals? >> They're new business license rentals.
» They're new. >> Mhm.
Is that when like somebody sells their rental and then there's new like change
of >> Yeah. So they bought something, they
decided to rent it out or maybe they already own it and they've decided, hey,
I'm going to rent this out. [clears throat]
» Thank you. >> Hi. Um, under capital project fund, I
[clears throat] think all the projects that you've listed are funded in the
budget. Is that correct? >> Yes.
» Okay. And um under sanitation fund operating revenue
is 277,000 while expenses are 76,000. That makes
John a dare look like he's skinning a fat hog. Is that really the
[laughter] >> especially since we had an increase?
» That's the whole point of an increase is to start gaining that fund balance again
for this fund so it can sustain itself for the next 10 to 13 years,
» right? Um, and then under parking, parking revenue is 111,000, expenditures
are 1.4,000. That's $1400. Is that really correct?
» Mhm. >> Wow. Okay. Thank you.
» That's just for July. >> Thank you.
Others, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Co. Um, the enterprise
fund for the year, we're getting 36,000 parking. That makes it only 38,000 from
everything else. >> Yes.
» That's like rent and stuff. >> Yeah, that's your um rents, your um
fishing revenue. Um any kind of events there,
binocular revenue. >> Wish you had a bigger parking lot.
[laughter]
» Same amount of money for people parking to come here and get from the roots.
That's Thank you.
All right, then. Thank you, Director Guber. We will now move on to the fire
department report with Chief Nelson.
Good evening. Just want to let everybody know that we have 42 personnel currently
in the fire department. Of those 42 personnel, 18 are career and 24 are
volunteer and 24 volunteer. We have roughly 16 that are interior
firefighters. Uh so we've changed that around quite a bit. Uh we do have one
opening currently at this time. It's for a firefighter paramedic position. Uh we
fill that position that will give us two paramedics on each shift which will help
us in the long run. Um lastly, uh PA fire incident uh that we've been doing
the collections and stuff. We collected another $250. That gives us a grand
total so far this year, 2,870 fire inspections that we started going
for. We have $6,900.
» Thank you. I'm going to break my own rule and it's not part of your report,
but what happened? >> Uh, bicep tore off, so heard.
» Okay, maybe I shouldn't have asked. [laughter]
» All right, I'm done already, Mr. Sty. Go ahead,
» Chief. the money that you've been collecting on this uh accidents and
whatever you doing. Yes, sir. >> Do you know how much you got in that
fund now? >> I would say anywhere from 8 to 10,000,
but I don't have a direct number. >> Are you still planning on building a
train facility out here? >> Yes, sir.
» Are we have we got enough money to get started on that?
» No, not yet. >> Okay. Uh, I've gotten a couple estimates
and we're looking anywhere from 250 to $300,000
to build the whole system. Uh, you got to figure all these they're
conx boxes. That was what we used. Uh, they all have to be fabricated. Uh, we
have to have a welder come in, cut it, join the boxes together. uh they have to
build stairwells in there, uh water piping systems and uh quite a bit of
work goes into building that. Um the gentleman that I got the one bid from is
the one that does Merles inlet Myrtle Beaches he did not do counties county
did their own. They had a welder that worked for them at the time.
We couldn't do it in stages. Uh there is two stages that we could do. One is
250,000 and then additional is 100,000 added on.
» Oh, we're talking [laughter] >> just to burn it down.
» I hear you. So, so we're at 20,000 roughly. I would
say that we got 10,000 20,000 somewhere in there that we've collected over this
last.
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Wall could ask a question. This would include Mel
Melanie. Oh, hello. I got my Melanie. We are keeping a separate bucket for him so
he can >> We're keeping this money separate.
» Yeah. >> You said that I remember when we talked
about it like a year ago. >> We wanted him to have we didn't want him
to have to collect it, but we did want him to have a place
» where where we were holding it for him >> so he could keep up with it separate
from any other. >> Okay. Just double check. Thank you,
» Mr. Mr. Hi. Chief, I have a question on the number of calls volunteers were
dispatched to chart. For example, on the left side it says volunteer ID number 74
responded to one call, but on the right it said volunteer ID number gave zero
hours to the department and then 52 uh right below it ID number 52 says
responded to 28 calls and yet they're not even listed over there on the right
side. So, am I misinterpreting this? >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
» So, hours are different from response calls. Um, so we have some volunteers
that aren't listed in this as a part of operations. They collect hours. Um, so
they would help out when we do uh public affairs and stuff like that and they get
counted with hours as far as that when when the call volume that's an actual
they get a call, they don't get hours per se for that call volume.
» Very good. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Mr. Coleman, go ahead. >> I see you have 30% of your calls on
cases of illnesses and stuff. >> Yes, sir.
» Um, any word from County about the
ambulance? >> Uh, I go by Cypio Lane a lot. There's
two ambulances in that uh in the bay there.
» One's a spare. >> Okay. So, they have a spare there. So,
» it's not manned or anything like that. The only thing that that ambulance is
used for is if that another ambulance has go out of service, they go there,
pick up that ambulance, and jump into it. You know, it blows a tire or engine
or whatever the case is. So, >> I was just hoping that
we're just keeping that Senate over press, you know, on that.
» Oh, well, Mr. Mayor.
Anybody else? >> Go ahead, Mr. Walls. That's just an
interesting observation on Harry's comment. When we hear that that
countywide we're 48 ambulances down >> and they got
» that's where it's not that they don't have the equipment. It's that they don't
have >> you got to figure if if they're covering
1,200, 1100 square miles, they got to have so many spare ambulance and they
have spare engines and everything else. Yeah. And that's where they house them
at and stuff like that. Unfortunately, hiring paramedics is kind of difficult.
Uh, you know, we're starting at 51,000, Merles Inlet starting at 61,000, then I
don't really know what county is starting at. Um, you know, so it's it's
uh getting a medic anymore is very difficult. One of our one of our
captains is planning on going to med school, which is awesome. We're very
excited for that. Um, if we can send some more people through, we glad we do
that, too. >> If I could, that's like the top of the
fireman ladder, isn't it? That's >> before you go into administration.
» That that's the top as far as EMS side of it.
» Okay. >> Yep. Next thing after that would be
probably a physician's assistant, a nurse, and going into the hospital.
» Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. >> Thank you.
» Any others? >> All right. Thank you, Chief Nelson. We
will move into the communications report with Mrs. Maul.
» Good evening, everyone. >> Hello. Um, okay. So, um, pretty proud
that we've hit 50,000 followers on Facebook. So, yay us. Um, we have
interviews for our new position. Uh, those have begun and they will continue
over the next week or so. So, we're excited about that.
um our summer events have um wrapped up for the season, but just remember that
we still have the same things that go on during our fall months as well, which is
Music and Memorial Park, Farmers Market, and then the Arts and Crafts Market. And
then we're getting really psyched about the the summer fireworks festival, which
will take place 5 to 9 at the pier. Um, and then just wanted to give you a brief
update. You guys have all this information in your packet. Um, but uh
just to kind of give you a little update from our logistics meeting. Um, so the
pier indeed will be closed and that's the pier from the gate to the end of the
pier. That's going to be closed all day for the fireworks festival for our
safety. Um and then our pier businesses will be allowed to remain open all day
um after the fireworks have been loaded onto the pier. So um and we plan on
loading in around 6ish um that morning. So everybody's safe,
our businesses are safe, our uh town people are safe um and then our visitors
will be safe. So, um, that is a wrap up of those event details. I think our next
meeting is on Wednesday. And that's all I have for you.
» All right. Any questions, comments?
» Mr. Coleman, um, why is all the summer events backed up?
» Kids are not in school.
Some of the kids aren't in school yet.
» I understand. Yeah, we we roll on the the general school schedule.
» Family game then we still could do that. >> Um, you know, I'm again remember when I
was going through this, I was going through some tests, right? So, what I
would say to you is I find a very strong opportunity for the community family
game nights. Um, if I and I haven't baked it all yet, but
if I had to say I would back it up a little bit like around 6:30, 7:00
u, mom and dad go to the pier village, they have dinner or downtown businesses,
whichever they prefer. Um, and then we start some support. So, we had a start,
stop, continue with um, a meeting for that. So, we've got some pretty good
ideas that are on my dry erase board. I'm asking was um we were trying to
extend get more tourists here, >> right?
» And I came down to come to the gation here and I found
out two weeks ago you had a holder show had a got craft
drop in you had the family game going how do we chop li?
» Yeah. >> Yeah. The the Yeah, I understand. But we
are working on some different things that I think will work pretty well for
us. >> Huler and Fire Dance show, they're the
ones who said we can't do it anymore. >> Correct. This they are back to school.
The pos saying maybe they not do it at 8:00 at
night. Could they do it at 6:30 or 7 o'clock?
» Yeah, just throw it out. >> Absolutely. There's a lot of
possibilities out there. There are still a lot of people up north.
Bad word to say. [laughter]
» Yeah. Large. >> So all those families are still coming
down. >> Sure.
» It would be great if we have something for them.
» Absolutely. And I would I totally agree with you. We need to capture that
audience. >> Thank you. Um, I actually got a question
for the administrator and not to be a bad guy, but are we allowed to have the
fireworks displayed on this end of season
or council have to vote on this because it says
um supposed to be 30 days prior.
Town council will authorize public displays.
» No, sir. A year ago, the uh the town attorney had indicated that that section
does not apply to the town. Does it need to be changed? It does to so that it's
» it's clear. So, it's not very clear, but it does not pertain to town council on a
county event. >> Just want to make sure.
» Yes, sir. >> And uh can we work on making it clear?
» Yes, sir.
» Mr. Mayor, >> I'll just in a minute, Mr. I just want
to add because I I brought this up with the administrator and Mrs. Mo not too
long ago and uh because we did go through this discussion last year and we
need to clarify it and uh unfortunately we had the event and we just moved on
and nobody said go back. So we've all made notes that we're going to clarify
this thing for before next year. Mr. Hyatt has also weighed in on it. So
yeah, we should be uh much better going forward. And with that, Mr. Hyde, go
ahead. Um, not to complicate things, but I noticed there's some vacant spots over
here, >> Mr.
» There's some vacant spots over here. Um, does that mean that we're not going to
have a full-fledged vendors this year or is it just
» We We don't have a full-fledged vendors on the fireworks festival. That is 12 to
14 total is what we do. Everything we do is in that parking lot area. So, one of
the start, stop, continues that we learned last year is we were really
crowded in that little space and I know most of you guys were there. So, again,
you're always testing things to see how they work. So, it makes better sense for
us to have fewer vendors, more space for the public safety.
» Very good. Thank you. >> You're welcome, sir.
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. understand it. >> Uh we we we [clears throat] sort of back
to the 30-day prior notice for fireworks. So, we actually did that
because, you know, if you really think about it, because we uh voted on this at
budget time and approved it back then. So, it has been voted on and approved.
» Yes, sir. >> Prior
for this. Yes, sir. >> That's I just want to clear that up.
» Thank you. Mr. Mayor Sean,
» um, you know, you have reported also that like the t-shirt sales that we we
always make a profit out of that even though we have some left over. Are we
going to do a sale thing? >> Yes, we are.
» Never mind. >> We're having to end a summer sale for
sure. Yeah. Okay. >> Mr. Mayor, if I get a second,
» Hang on. Anybody else? Go ahead, Mr. Hyde.
» Is there a chance our town could order some more hats that say Surfside Beach
on them? >> They are on the way.
» Thank you. >> You got it.
» All right. With that, thank you, Mrs. Maul. We will now move on to the public
works report from director Adair.
[laughter] >> Good evening, mayor and council and
citizens. Public works for July and our sanitation division. The uh summer
rollout program is going to be going off uh out of effect after September 12th
and back to our winter schedule. Uh again, I mentioned last month the new
sanitation rates approved by town council are in effect as the bill
everybody got August 1st. Hopefully you all got that.
» Yeah, thanks John. [laughter] >> We voted for that.
» Yeah, that was took a lot of doing with Grand Strand Water and Sewer to do that.
Uh uh I'll comment that [clears throat] our next household waste e-waste drop
off event is going to be on September 11, 12th, and 13. It's not in the
report, but I fig I'd start talking about it so everybody can put it on
their calendar. U Mr. Hyatt mentioned earlier the
sanitation expenses. You're going to see a new sanitation trucks coming in in a
couple weeks and you're going to see a big expense on the expense side, the
sanitation fund. So >> and a Mercedes outside.
» That'll be good. [laughter] That'll be good. No, it's just a garbage truck.
It's a side loader. Uh so that'll bring that extend side up a bit. Uh in our
streets and drainage division, uh I'll just highlight which isn't on here
either. Our beach reourishment remobilization is taking place this
week. As most of you know, there's some pipe still on the beach. Plastic pipe.
They're going to float that off into the ocean. They're going to cap the ends of
it and that'll be the end of it. And the whole beach will be open 100%. So I
still get calls about it. I'm sure you guys get calls about it. Uh but during
the demobilization, all the sand has been pumped already. There's no more
dredging going on and we're just waiting for them to completely get all their
stuff off the beach and they'll they'll be followed by sand fence installation
by their subcontractor after that. So that won't close any beaches, the sand
fence installation. Uh in our grounds division, we installed a new water
fountain over a park playground. in our uh fleet maintenance division. In
July, our mechanics completed 83 repairs on town vehicles and equipment and 16
vehicles had prevented maintenance of drugs. Anybody has any questions? I'll
be happy to answer them. >> Mr. Mayor,
» Miss Sean, >> you said now with all the the dredging
on the beaches completely done, when will the new signs get implemented on
the beach? >> Once the sand fence goes up, signs will
go up. >> Right. Thank you.
» Yeah. Mr. Mayor, >> Mr. [clears throat] Stamy,
» uh, as everybody knows, we received a thing today about skateboard down here,
and y'all want to inspect that. Make sure it's safe.
» Yeah, this is not part of the report. >> We should not be getting into these, but
yeah, it's not part of the report. >> Sorry, John. I mean, that's what we're
supposed to stick to. >> Thank you, Miss Medina. I I asked her to
keep me on on task. >> Mr. Mayor, if I could.
» Mr. Walls, >> just a quick question.
» Absolutely. >> I don't recall seeing exactly what, but
I'm just curious. What does one of those blue side loaders cost us?
» Almost $500,000. >> I believe
looks like a real expensive piece of equipment.
» Yeah, they're about 260 when I started [laughter]
half million perow. Thank you. Yes, sir.
» Any others? Thank you, Director. Thank you. We will now move into the police
department report. Chief Mickel,
evening, mayor, council, citizens. So, for uh July
1,767 calls for service broken off initiated from year to date. We wrote 93
citations, made total of 30 arrests in July and 19
of those were arrest warrants which are listed there.
You look at the index crimes, I don't see anything out of the ordinary or
cause or concern there. Um, and then the card activity.
This is year to date. Again, 10 citations, 37 warning citations, 14
accidents, five of which are injured and pretty notable events. Uh,
We responded to an unresponsive incident at a residence and upon arrival officer
administrative life saving measures and were able to revive the child. The
incident was referred to child protective services who investigated and
took appropriate action. I believe that the next uh
council meeting myself and the fire department will be recognizing the
officers and the fire department personnel that were involved in saving
that child. officers also responded to a stolen
vehicle that was stolen from a tow company and fled the scene and caused a
bunch of damage when it was leaving. We were able to work with some other
agencies and find that vehicle and issue some charges for that subject that broke
and stole the vehicle and of course we all
participated in Fourth of July events which were really great and we had a
great time doing it.
» Any questions? Any questions, comments for Chief Nickel?
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Walls, >> if you could please. I've been getting a
lot of uh inquiries as to the the latest golf cart activity that we've had. One
of them wasn't in our town. Another was in our town. If you could just for the
good. Seems like the residents are awfully interested in those
» Yeah. >> certain activities. And if you
» I know it's a July report, too, but there's been a lot of activity in August
with golf, too. So, I'm just going to It's probably more what they're talking
about. >> Uh, yeah, we've had enough a lot more
golf carts in town and we've had I think we had total
» uh five accidents in August just itself. Three three were golf carts, two were
LSVs. So, we've seen an increase in August just as well. So, um, of course
they'll be in the August report, but forget about it now because we're
talking about it. So, yeah, there's a lot there is a lot more golf cart
activity in town. Um I think maybe only one of those was at night. Um
still there access during the day. Two of those I think were injury. So yeah,
there's there's been um but I I think the countyy's seen it as well too. Um
I just I think there's a lot of variables involved. Um I actually did
rank some numbers. Um been an increase since last year of 21% of of accidents
involving golf carts. Um but the prior year before that was an increase of 27%.
So I don't know if that correlates with but I think there's just a lot of
variable. There is the new law that was passed. There is population growth and
then there's also huge increase in golf sales and rentals. We've seen them
spring up all over the county as well. So I just think there's a lot of
interest in golf [clears throat] carts and LSVs and a lot more people are
getting them and so we're just seeing a lot more of that activity as well.
I got someone called me today and and asked where so I wanted I I think I
clearly told them but if you could just for the record and everything there was
a fatality. >> Yeah, it was not within Surfside.
» No. Right. >> Right. Not within town. It was out just
outside of town. Uh but there was a golf cart accident with a fatality. I don't
know a lot of the details. It was high patrol I think was the primary
investigating agency. And as far as we can tell, there's no ties to sid victims
as well. Yeah, it happens. I mean, we had a major injury.
» Yeah, I mean, we did have injury accident here as well around the same
time. >> Not nearly as serious, but
» and alcohol was involved in that when we got here.
» Thanks, Miss. >> I'm kind of be curious to understand
these accidents with the golf carts. Is there any way we can find out if it how
many are from rentals compared to owners?
» I'd have to go back to each one and run the see the problem with the golf cart.
I mean can do with LSVs very easily with golf carts. They don't have place. So
» um >> any reason why
» I I won't be able to get exactly accurate numbers but I can probably get
some approximations on that. Any reason why I'm asking is since the accidents
are going up, should and if they are on the rental side, should the rental
companies do a better job educating, you know, people come down here for vacation
and they rent and I see them all over town and the rentals, I can guarantee
you no, I haven't seen that many where they put children
in the seat belt. but they either choose not to or they're not aware of the new
law. So, um it's just something to think
about. I don't want you to go like [clears throat] can't tell you what to
do in other words, but it'd be curious to see if it was from the rentals and
then we could walk back and get the rental company to educate the people.
» Yeah, I know the rental companies are I even posted on the rentals. The laws
posted on the rentals. have any quite ordinance there have to do that we
haven't seen anybody not complying with that
people don't pay attent pay attention to a lot of those labor warnings I guess
you know and you know and again that's why we keep
these records and we go back and analy too I mean now some of these numbers
next year and we can maybe pivot to and come up with different enforcement
strategies for uh compliance with some of these while we you know we can find a
way that we can try to reduce these numbers uh focusing our enforcement
enforcement techniques so it's learning experience for us as well
» Mr. Mayor Mullman. >> Yeah, I'd like to go back to the uh golf
cart accident when someone was, you know, seriously very Was that an
accident or was it the person fall out of a cop car?
» Meaning it was Did they hit something? >> Well, for it was an LSV. It wasn't a cop
car. So, it would have been allowed to be on at that time, but it was at night.
» Yeah. So, car call with a different name.
» Right. Right. But I was correlating with the law. So, let's say that the the we
hadn't changed the law. You guys had not changed the law. LSD still would have
been out. could have legally been out there.
» I get that. >> There was a single vehicle alcohol valve
and the passenger fell out. >> So I know the driver was arrested.
» Correct. For >> DUI also arrested for person getting
hurt with an accident. Yes. >> Never hit anything cuz she fell out of
the golf car. >> Correct.
» Was she drinking out out of duration? >> Uh we don't have any toxicology yet, but
it's the officer the officer. >> The investigation revealed that alcohol
she most So this was more an alcohol incident than a golfart in but still
classified in a statement as an accident was a motor vehicle.
» But the cause was somebody drinking while driving.
» Correct. >> And most probably the passenger was
probably had a couple too many and fell out of c.
» That's it. >> So that could have been a bicycle, could
have been a wagon, could have been anything else and the person probably
would have got hurt. just trying to make the point that it didn't really have
anything to do with a power. Thank you. Oh, I got [laughter]
the sauce went up from from two from last year to five
now. Is that real assaults or that was a report? I don't I don't understand
the report. So these are actually um
the crime data that the report Yeah reported. So we just had five more
reported. It doesn't mean that there were five actual assaults. We arrested
five people for assault. That just means those we got those are the reported
monthly crimes. So we received five reports of it. If you want to go back
and look if you go back and look out of those five reports I think we have one
assault that actually occurred and probable cause. So in essence, we only
had one assault. We had five calls. >> Five reports and then we could only
» a report meaning somebody called that said there was somebody way down and
said there's somebody getting >> right. We we responded five um calls of
classified assaults >> and only one
» and only one resulted in the charges.
if we can get that instead of I mean I was a rookie. Someone ran up to me so
I just got robbed. I just got robbed and I called all the troops to come and
basically what it was is they were sitting on the bar and she went into the
bathroom and someone took a couple of dollars out of her apartment. That
wasn't a robbery. So the true number I I like the true number. I don't care how
many people misal.
I'd rather have the real number. We have x amount of assaults from this this
month to last last year. >> Well, you have that though. So, you can
see what the calls we responded to that fall in those categories. And you can
look over and see see if you look at domestic violence too. There's two
there. So, now that I'm looking at that, you know, that might have been three of
the five. Those domestic violence could have been assault. Of
course, some of those disorderly conduct officer could have said, "Hey, you know,
those other ones aren't actually an assault to disorderly conduct."
So, we report we responded to five calls that were classified as assaults and
then go back and look at arrests that correlate to that,
possibly [clears throat] three assaults. This is two domestic violence.
» Yes. >> This is a necessary assault if there be
harassment or >> well the domestic violence has to
include an assault. So there was three assaults.
» Hi Mr. Mayor. >> He does.
» Okay. Mr. >> I think Chris wanted to go.
» Sticks out on here. There was an arson. Could you tell us what happened?
That was yeah um there was third fourth of July
and there was some alcohol involved in a incident inside a house and uh there was
a fire and the fire marshall responded with our detective and they conducted
the fire cause of origin investigation and
determined uh where the fire started in the house. That's underneath fireworks
and we're able to determine who was responsible for that in the house. Okay.
Um, a couple other questions. If you receive more than one call for the same
incident, how do you count that? You count that like let's say you receive
five calls for an incident. Is that do you count it as one? Because that's one.
» Just one. Okay. Um, >> because we responded to that one
incident. >> And then I'm wondering,
we don't have a handle here on town council of anything that really happens
on our beach. is do you oversee the lifeguard services? Do you know what's
going on on the beach? >> So, we don't oversee lifeguard services.
That's a private contract. I oversee the uh
beach ambassador program which patrols the beach. And all of their statistics
are right here in the report as well. You can see
» I saw those. >> Yeah. And then we have we break it down.
Yeah. That's how we we keep everything on a beach.
Um, now what be Now what the light guards do that [laughter] doesn't
» so we don't have any information if they're rescuing anybody. We don't
really know it >> unless they call for help.
» Unless they call for >> assistance.
» I have to ask is that correct? Yes. Unless they call for EMS or fire then.
» And another question I have sometimes they have to shut down the beach. How do
we know are people complying or we not do we have a problem there? you know, we
we're kind of blind to this kind of information.
» So, when the weather conditions cause for the beach to be shut down, they shut
that down and then no one complies, then they'll call us. So, nobody complies.
So, as you'll remember, a couple months ago, maybe gentlemen wouldn't comply
with swimming by the pier. >> Yes, I remember fire department brought
them to the shore and we >> arrested him,
» took them to jail for not complying. So, um I think you'll hear about any, you
know, vast majority of people comply um with the life.
» Yeah. And then there's an ordinance if they don't comply, that's a violation of
the ordinance and we can enforce it. >> Uh one last thing, I just like to make a
comment to the officers that helped revive that child. Congratulations to
them. >> You you'll have that opportunity the
next day. >> Good.
» Looking forward to it. Mr. Mayor,
» Mr. St. >> On these 37 warrants on the golf cart, I
mean warning citations on the golf carts, you have 37 warnings. What kind
of warnings is that for? Kindly give me a kindly an idea what just warnings 37
warnings. you stop or got part any of the any of the ordinance or state
law violations that the officer determine that
well lack if you stop a golf cart and a child is in safe would you give them a
warning >> probably not
» would your depends on the circumstances would your officers give a warning
» it depends on the circumstances I can't really get into the kind of scenario
» what you're saying but it is it's It's within their It's within their uh
» Well, it's that with legal discretion to do so, but
» would they do that? Probably not. They probably would give a warning for that,
but I can't say that. >> Just a lot of warning tickets being
given out for 10 citations and 37 warnings. I mean, that's a lot
difference. Just a lot of warnings. People get a lot of warnings. The
warnings don't go too far. I've had some myself. [laughter]
» I'm telling you. Well, there you go.
[laughter]
» Well, I mean, we do try to get compliance through education if we think
that'll work. If we don't think it'll work, then we issue citations and if you
get the warnings are all documented. It's not like you just get a verbal
warning. If you if I give you a warning tomorrow today and you get stopped by
another officer tomorrow, it's in the system. He pulls it up and runs you. He
sees you got a warning for it. You're not getting a second one.
» He's curious. >> He is. [laughter]
» And now I know you're not getting any
break. >> Mr. Mayor, if I could just
» hang on, let me see anybody. It's just you and me that haven't said anything
either. >> Go ahead, Mr. Wall. I just wanted to
clarify something with Chief Nelson and and you all back [clears throat] back in
the day when I worked the beach. Um, our procedure was if we pulled anybody out
of the water, we had to call you guys in to clear them. I mean, we we're
certified lifeguards, but we we're not medical professionals. Correct. We
should be calling for an ambulance if they poke somebody out.
» So, I wanted to clarify that. That's still a procedure here. They if they had
to do any kind of life-saving rescue, they've got to include you once they get
them to the sand. Well, well, if they can get them to the sand.
» Yes, sir. >> Okay. That's that's so we know about it
from your report. >> Correct.
» Okay. >> Thank you.
» All right. With that, thank you uh Chief Mickel and Chief Nelson.
» Thank you. Uh we'll now move on to planning, building, and zoning. Director
Broer
Good evening, Mayor Council members of the public.
I want to try to hit the highlights here. Um,
the second reading of the tree ordinance will be coming to you soon. As you know,
we're refining the section on fines versus penalties, and we've got that
ironed out, I believe. So, that will be coming to you
uh on September 1st. Uh the planning commission is going to be holding a
public hearing on two items. One on locational controls or I should say
further locationational controls for storage and additional conditions to
apply to future vehicle fueling uh fueling establishments. And in brief,
what that really is is that we actually list auto service station and gas
stations in two places in the use matrix. And in one place, it's permitted
and in the other place it's conditionally permitted. So then you
start splitting hairs and definitions of what a gas station is and what an auto
service station is. [clears throat] >> Yeah, exactly. So I was put in that
uncomfortable position to do that. We need a change to the ordinance. So,
we're making a change in ordinance and we're updating it. We're doing away with
gas stations. We're doing away with auto service stations. By the way, auto
service stations are the gas stations that I remember. Those are the ones with
the pumps with a rollup door and two lifts and people were actually working
on cars. Gas station is purely fuel. We're updating it to call it a vehicle
fueling establishment to include things like electric hy hydrogen and all the
other fuels that may be coming along in our near future. So, we're updating that
to be a little ahead of the game, if you will.
The um last one I wanted to talk about briefly was we heard from John is the
public works department is going to be requesting a zone change proposal uh for
a parcel next to them on the Sandy Lane and all of the parcels back there except
for John's uh facilities are zone C1 and in order to be consistent with his
zoning on his current site we'll be taking that to planning commission to
reszone that C1 With that, um, it's been a a long set of
questions for everybody up here. I'll just ask, is there any other questions
that I can form you? >> Any questions?
[clears throat] >> Yes.
» The the bullet on um preparing to bring damages against the illegal killing and
removal of an oak tree. Is that the one that came in that just we got an email?
Um, >> it is.
» Okay. Um, as I always like to say, I have 75 excellent code enforcement
officers out there in golf carts, uh, taking names and taking pictures. So, we
have a picture of it. We didn't have a picture of it coming down, but yeah, it
was a tree that from [clears throat] my understanding
was a past issue. Somebody tried to kill the tree chemically.
» Uh, the tree is, and the picture that we have is the tree is dead. There's no
question. there wasn't a leaf on it. Um, but there was still an illegal removal
of it. So, we're just following up on that and doing the appropriate
enforcement action on that. >> Thanks. You're welcome.
» Any other Thank you, director. Very much. We'll
now move into our discussion item item 7A on placard. Mrs. Maul is going to uh
introduce this topic. All right. Um I'm pretty excited to uh put this
presentation before you by Trent. Um I'll just give you a brief overview. Uh
when you are looking at your presentation
um in your packets, uh there's two pieces to this. What's one is called
peercast and of course the other one is called placard. We can marry the two
names if we want to. Um, so, uh, it's a system that allows basically a QR code.
He's going to give you all the info, but it's a QR code that if I'm a person that
I'm going to go fishing on the pier, I'm going to scan that QR code. It's going
to tell me what's biting currently, what we are using as bait, etc. I won't steal
all your thunder. >> Oh, you're good.
» And then the second part of that is a digital sign 60 by 30 where I can scan a
QR code and I can I don't have to Google restaurants near me, happy hours near
me, what are the beach rules? I don't have to Google any of that. It's all
going to be in one great place for you. With that, Trent, thank you very much.
Of course, >> council members, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Thank you for having me. >> Uh so, essentially, this is uh Placard.
Um I'm a co-founder of Placard. I started Placard with my friend Chris
Coulter. Uh we both moved here from Florida. We've been here for about uh
six to seven months and absolutely love it here. We plan on staying here for a
while. Had a wife and four kids and I'm very excited to continue live by the
beach. My wife missed it dearly. So we're going to be by the beach for a
while. So um we started placard because we had some questions. So let's go
through those questions. So first and foremost, what is placard? We connect
physical places to dynamic digital experiences that can be updated
instantly. This is a live example of our Surfside uh short-term rental location
called Surfside State of Mine. Essentially, what you do when you walk
into this short-term rental, if you are on Airbnb or Verbbo, is you can walk in,
you see this plaque, you scan it, and it tells you immediately 90% of the
questions that you have about being in that space. The whole purpose behind
this is to deliver information the way it's never been delivered before. Right
now, you're googling things. Right now, you're asking track GBT and that's how
you're getting information. People really want to engage with something
that's native to their phone. So, we create mobile web apps to do exactly
that. So, when you walk into this short-term rental, this is the
experience you get. You can press copy right on that button for the Wi-Fi
access and then paste it right into your Wi-Fi password. So, it's super easy,
really convenient, straight to your phone. It also tells you everything
that's local. It's all geoloccated, so you never have to worry about if you're
in a short-term rental in another city that you're not going to be able to
indulge in the local uh farmers markets or or events around the area.
So, where it started, uh Purecast, this is our first baby, and you're more than
welcome to scan this with your phone if you'd like to get a firsthand
experience. You just hold your phone up, open up your camera, and point it right
at that QR code, and it'll open the PierCast mobile web app right now so you
can see exactly what it looks like. Uh, Piercast started because Chris and I met
and we were at a 1 million cuffs event in Myrtle Beach and we went out to the
pier, Pier 14, and we wanted to know about fish that people were catching. We
wanted to know what kind of bait, what kind of rigs they were using, and nobody
could answer any of our questions. So, we decided to ask around, gather this
information. We thought to ourselves, it would be really nice if this was all in
one place right out here. What are the rules and regulations?
anything you want to know about fishing right on this pier. Um, and so we
created peercasts. We had questions and the answers were scattered and
disorganized and not pretty to look at. So we took, no offense to the South
Carolina Department of Natural Resources, but we took the information
that's scattered throughout their website and we put it into one beautiful
mobile web app. So, not only that, but we tell you if
the tide is rising or falling, what your bite score is, the likelihood of you
able to catch fish that day based on the weather, the tide, and what kind of bait
and lure you're using. Um, there's games on there if you get bored. Kids can play
or give their parents fish. Uh, but what we did is we took three sets of
information, all these ads that were popping up, and we put it into one place
where it's delivered and it's not cumbersome.
And what we discovered is anywhere we go, this applies to absolutely anywhere.
Visitors spend more time searching for information than enjoying where they
are. I hate trying to look for parking. Four children, my wife, one of them
super young, she's screaming like crazy in the back seat, driving all over the
place trying to find parking, trying to find public restrooms. I can't stand it.
And then when I get out of the car, I want to go to happy hour with my wife.
That's something that we like to enjoy together. And I want to know where the
closest one is. It would be nice to have that all in one place.
And so we're proposing a plaque,
a 60 by30 plaque where you can scan and you can have every bit of information
you possibly want to know about the counter surfer site.
It would look something similar to what you see here. We can design and create
absolutely anything that we want. So if uh if there's another design that you
all would prefer, this is something we can go in a different direction. I
personally like this one. The benefits of placard for the visitors is of course
less searching or exploring uh better first impressions of the city. It feels
like you're more engaged. Uh easier navigation and it's always current.
Really important part of it. Uh benefits for businesses. They can list and update
their happy hour whenever they want to. They have full access to an admin
backend dashboard for this that will allow them to update this data so that
we don't have to go back and forth with communication. Very simple for them. Um,
they can also listen all live music and the biggest one for me is seasonal
promotions without replacing signs or printing new materials ever. It's just
on this one scan. Uh, benefits for the town for you guys.
This is extremely important. You get all the analytics, all the metrics. You get
to see how people navigate your town, what they're most interested in, what
are people clicking on the most, uh, the most used businesses. This is extremely
valuable information and you can use it however you like.
You also get to see peak visitation days and times. So, not only is this a
service for the guests experience or visitors coming to your town, but it's a
service for you as well. This slide is going to look different than the one you
see in your packet. I do apologize. Um, uh, Valadis switched their name to 21
Arrows. Same company, same concept, change of name. 21 Arrows is a strategy
and technology firm. They use or they create custom software digital
experiences uh and they track growth and a lot of this is is based on and
predicated on automation. It's very important that we automate this to make
it easy for everybody. The proposal is I would like to see peer
peer cast on your peers. Um I would also like to see placard in
your town and that's a goal of mine as someone who just likes to create and
solve problems. This is something that I enjoy doing. and uh I just would like to
have your permission to pursue that. >> So, thank you very much.
» All right. Thank you, sir. Are there uh any questions for uh
» uh Mr. [clears throat] What? Trent, was it?
» Yeah, Robinson. I don't know why Williams is on there, but Robinson last
name. Yeah, Trent Robinson. >> Okay, that's right.
» All right. Trent Robinson. Thank you for correcting that.
» No problem. >> Or uh Mrs. Maul if you want to
understand from the town perspective. >> I have so Mr. Hy. Go ahead. Oh, cost
» cost absolutely. Uh, so we have multiple quotes for signs, but right now um if we
buy three signs, we're we source from Seabboard Signs because we noticed that
Seabboard Signs was used for some of the signs that are already on the pier. So,
we wanted to go with the company that you had already worked with. Seabard
Signs quoted us one um sign plaque at $8,000 and then if we do three and we
place those throughout multiple areas of the town it would be um $6,000 per sign
» for the digital right per placard. >> No.
» Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Sorry. >> Not the one.
» Not the Yes. Exactly. >> The sign you showed us with the
» right the big signs. My apologies. >> 6,000 a piece.
» Yes. >> Wow. That seems kind of steep. They are
illuminated signs and they are auto powered so there's no need to run
electricity to them. >> That's a really important note to Yeah.
» U how long has your company been operating?
» So we've been operating Piercast for five months and the amount of data that
we've collected in that amount of time is pretty astonishing. We're on two
peers right now currently with live um plaques on the peers. 12 total plaques
between uh 14 um pier 14 and second app pier
those are the two we're on right now uh we have gathered over 5,000 QR scans in
the past four months and that number continues to rise we we've also had a
really interesting metric was people were visiting the site even after
scanning so they would go back to it again so we've had a total of 14,000
website visits just from peer scans >> so you're new and you're growing but
you're highly utilized so far >> correct Um,
some of the things you heard tonight, could we somehow have another section
for golf carts and explain seat belts? >> You can have absolutely anything you
want. >> And on beach rules, we can have rip tide
safety. >> It's unlimited.
» Okay. >> Yeah. Anything you can think of. Tell me
and I want to make it for you. That's how excited I am to do this. The guys
behind uh 21 Arrows are It's astonishing. So if we buy these signs,
these three signs,000, then what's the cost after?
» That's what I'm sorry about that. Glad I asked. So a monthly retainer to maintain
those and to go back and forth with the businesses is going to cost us $1,000 a
month. And then to build out the mobile web app and put the design and all the
information and gather the geoloccation together is $12,000
» in addition to the 18 and the 10,00. >> Correct. So the 18 is for the signs, the
12,000's for the mobile web app, and then $1,000 per month for maintenance
and and upkeep. >> Is there any way we can recoup any of
that and the businesses that use it? >> Absolutely. T we were talking about
this. Okay. >> Actually, T probably take this part for
a second. >> Before you go on, I I missed something
here. This is a discussion item and we are allowed to make motions. It is not a
business item, so we're not scheduling a vote, but we can make motions here.
Wanted to clarify that. Sorry. Go ahead and proceed.
» Um, yes. So, with the business uh committee's uh permission, I want to
pitch this to the business committee first. Um, and then my idea is to charge
the businesses monthly fees. So, we're basically the upfront money that gets it
all in motion and then they have their monthly fees that they are going to pay
us to be a part of that. As far as the details right now, I'm just giving you
very top line. Of course, I would have that conversation. But it's sort of like
Google, like if you want to be the first restaurant that pops up or the first
happy hour, that's where I would charge the money and then you would go down
through tears. So that's the concept. Again, just right off the top of my head
there from I haven't spoken to the businesses yet, just sitting there.
» So, so basically this is just anformational Hi.
» Yeah. Talk to your microphone. >> Yes. Hi, microphone. Um, so this is just
anformational um presentation and your next step is to
take this to the business committee. Is that correct?
» Correct. If you guys really love this and think it's a good idea as I do um
then I will definitely take it and go from there.
» Okay. >> Mr. Mayor, you you done m I'm done.
Okay. >> Just quick. So the the 12,000 to build
the data. Yes. Is that a onetime fee or is that going to be an ongoing annual
fee? >> That's a onetime fee.
» Onetime fee. >> Correct.
» Any anything else from on an annual basis that we would be paying or is this
all just upfront pretty much cost? >> $12,000 upfront, $18,000 for the signs
if you choose three and then $1,000 a month for maintenance for the site and
communication. >> Okay. So that would be the that So
12,000 a year. >> Oh, correct. Yes. So that would be an
annual office. Okay. >> And in terms of how the information gets
updated, um guess that's kind of on the the business to make sure that you have
the information that they want to get out on and [clears throat] available to
folks. >> Yes. So that's our responsibility. Yeah.
» Um I got a couple questions there. Three signs and that's probably more for you.
Where do they go? >> So the first sign of course is at the
pier. Um, I think that's really vital. Second sign, Memorial Park. Third sign,
Harrison Park. It's the center of gravity of our town. So, those parks
there would make the most sense to me to have them there.
» Okay. And 30 by 60. Where does that come from? That size.
» Uh, I just figured uh I kind of took measurements and put it up against my uh
my wall and measured my height and size and what I'd like to walk up to and what
would present itself. At the end of the day, this is going to draw people to the
sign. We want it to be attractive. We want it to be beautiful and we want it
to stand out. The more foot traffic, the more scans, the more data and uh and the
more information we can consume from it. >> So I I get the point of standing out and
of course larger stands out better, but the peers kind of tight in places and so
forth. So and and yes, it's anformational sign, but you
don't want too many signs around. Would it be a little smaller?
» Absolutely. But this is entirely different. Right. Okay.
» I I I mean I will do whatever you guys want, but if from a tourist or visitor
standpoint or community standpoint, you've got to have scale to make it
beautiful. You've got to attract them to that. So to me, that's the right size
when we spoke about it. >> Okay.
» But you guys decide. >> Yeah. I I'm not saying I have any
insight to it. I just, you know, I just don't want too large. But of course, I
don't It does no good if it just people walk by. So I get that. I don't know
what the magic number is right anybody. >> Yeah, I'm not getting why $6,000 sign
people digital sign. I don't understand. >> It's not a digital sign. Are you just
asking why it cost $6,000? >> Yeah.
» Um, so this also includes the base of the sign. This is a weatherproof sign.
It's a high quality, very nice sign that should last a very, very long time. Um,
this is not some cheap thrown together plastic. It's steel framing. It's
beautiful. Um, and we use premium products and it is heavily illuminated.
So, it's going to withstand all the weather that you can throw at it. Uh, so
so yes, it's it it is a pricey sign, but it is um beautiful. I think an
investment into a quality sign is a good idea.
» Um, I think it's a great idea. It's just that
I'm not sure why we're calling it peer village because it's for the whole town,
right? It's not just for the pier area, right? I hate that all the, you know,
you see a sign that says Pier Village, you think it's only restaurants in the
Pier Village. >> Yeah. And that was for the mockup. So
yeah, >> I'm just throwing it out there. I'd
rather have sides, you know, because we have great restaurants throughout the
whole place, right? >> And in my opinion, Beer Village gets a
lot of attention. We need to expand the whole town. We have great restaurants.
We will this be retail stores, too. They're going to be there.
» Everything. And I love the idea that you're saying is to accelerate
throughout the town. I want to benefit the town as much as possible. So
anywhere we can put it and however you want it to be, we can make that for you.
» And honestly, I don't want to spend more $6,000. [laughter]
If you had a big uh the bigger parking lots, too. You come down for the beach,
you don't even think about having dinner here. You you point your phone at it.
» Hey, Mil, >> let's go to let's go to dinner tonight.
There's a restaurant [laughter] over there,
» right? >> If I if I may, uh, one other thing that
we're working on right now is the ability to people be able to see how
many parking spots are open in the parking lot before they even leave their
house. And this is a tech that we're kind of working on in the back end
because you see how much of a hectic headache it can be throughout, you know,
all the beaches. And I I believe one of the pictures has it that it's a little
tiny sign that it's on a possibly in a restaurant or something. I don't know.
» That's a short-term rental. Yep. That's Yeah, that's so when you Yeah. When you
walk into a little Airbnb, it's a little one,
» right? You don't Maybe you can throw them into restaurants. Correct.
» Just so you you'll know what's going on in the town where you you know later on
and stuff. >> Yes, sir. I I love the idea and I really
like the idea that the businesses are going to help pay for this
» because not just the town residents um the people who actually going to benefit
from getting more business and you know you might have a little restaurant it's
not doing well. It's great. It's a great place but no one knows about it.
» Yeah. this way they'll find out about it and hopefully they'll they'll
» I'm glad to see the vision. Thank you. >> It's a great idea.
» Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. Mr. W.
» Yeah, >> um
so by the way, I like the concept you and we got a preliminary look at it and
I like the placements because it was important to me also to let's not just
focus down there, >> but okay. So, I did scan your QR. And by
the way, really cool. >> Thank you.
» Okay. And Surfside Pier's, by the way, already on there.
» Yes, it autoopulates location. >> So, but there's a open button on here
» in out in the ocean beside my pier. There's a There's an open. What What
What would it do if I hit it? It doesn't do anything currently, but what would it
What would that do if we came on board with you all? Would that take you to my
web our town website? >> Correct. So that's a placeholder for
town website. >> Okay. Yes,
» that's what I want. >> And it tells you all the data that you
would like to know about the town and >> anything we wanted to load in there,
right? The beach rules, the whatever it could be.
» Also, uh, sorry to interrupt. Ad placement is huge on this.
» Yeah. >> Um, not the nasty Google ads with that
little teeny X that you have to figure out how to hit and get off your screen.
We don't we don't do that. Um, >> okay. We run ads that are beautiful and
they're integrated into the mobile web app. So it looks like you're actually
scrolling to something that you're excited.
» Yeah. >> And and by the way, this this
information I'm not a fisherman, but if I were, I mean, you've got it all.
» Thank you. >> Right here.
» Everything they need to know to catch fish.
» Thank you very much. I appreciate that. >> Yeah.
» Thank you. >> [clears throat]
» Well, anybody else want to do a Okay, Mr. I go take a
» I want I want to make a motion. >> Okay, that's what I was going to do.
[clears throat] >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
placard concept for further development with an emphasis on recapturing
investment income and ongoing costs and perhaps lower sign costs. Right there,
» I'll second it. Uh, is there any discussion on the
motion? >> Yeah, I I have reservation about making
a vote on it right now. I'd rather see line by line how much really going to
cost. >> Well, I think he's I think Judge's
motion is to pursue that. >> Okay.
» Let me re I'll repeat it for you. um approved the placard concept for further
development with an emphasis on re capturing investment income ongoing
costs and perhaps lower sign costs. >> Okay,
» Mr. Mor. >> Uh, Miss Shaw,
» this is going to the business committee, correct?
» Do we need to add that in the >> We're making a motion for her to do her
job. Basically, [laughter] how she wants to do it.
» How she wants to do. >> We're saying please continue. Okay.
» Yes. And and yeah, you can talk to whomever you want.
» Mr. Ryer, if I could. So, what we're asking you basically to do is put a put
some meat together and present a decision paper for us to look at and
vote on. Okay, that's Thank you. >> You're welcome.
[clears throat] >> Any others?
I I am not going to repeat that motion. If we need it if we need it repeated,
Mr. Hyatt has it written down. I saw that. Do does anybody need to hear it
again? All right. [clears throat] In that case,
Miss Medina, will you call the role? >> Mr. St.
» Yes. >> Mr. Coleman,
» yes. >> Mr. Walls,
» yes. >> Mr. Lawren,
» yes. >> Mr. Hyatt,
» yes. >> Miss Valent,
» yes. >> Yes. Motion carries unanimously and uh
Miss Small is directed to >> pursue this.
» Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Robinson.
» Thank you, sir. >> All right. [clears throat] Um we are now
moving into our first business item, the strategic payment services. Uh director
grouper is going to uh introduce uh Miss Elliot.
» Uh Mr. Mayor, unfortunately at the last minute she is unable to attend, but she
will be here for the September 8th. >> Okay. So we have to remove that item. Um
» yes, >> we don't have to officially vote since
she's not here, I assume. Okay. >> All right. Well, thank you for letting
us know. And uh too bad that didn't work out.
» Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So, we're going to move into
uh item 8B, a memorandum of agreement. Uh well, I'm just going to ask for a
motion on this. >> Mr. Mayor, Mr. Laworn, make a motion to
approve a memorandum agreement with the South Carolina Department of Juvenile
Justice for fiscal year 2026 to 2027. >> Second.
» You got one of them seconds. Okay. Um All right. Chief Mickel, you run through
this. >> Yeah. Uh this is just a renewal of an
agreement we have with them. an annual agreement every year. It's just uh an
agreement that if we uh take a juvenile into custody and need that we transport
Columbia detention what their responsibilities are, what ours are in
the schedule fees. Um we didn't even use them once last
year and the year before that. I think we brought one to spend a total of $75,
but their fees did go up this last year. So, um you're looking at above $175 a
day if we arrest the juvenity
of juvenile um charges are through a summon where we just we issue them a
summon to family court and release it to a parent.
It has to be a pretty serious crime for us to take that you
know for us to actually take some as larger
do we have to have
we have to be able to transport agreement that's
» so yeah so that actually I'll get it started right we don't really have any
choice we have to do this >> non-negot negotiable [laughter]
costs are in there. >> We wouldn't be able.
» So, we're going to vote and but I mean we can see the writing on the law I
think. >> Anybody have any real questions?
» Yeah, Mr. >> Real questions. I don't know about
» Well, I mean we have to vote on this. But go ahead.
» But just I just wanted to clarify we we use Greenville.
» Is that where we would >> No. So DJJ has a facility in Colombia.
If they don't if they run out of space, the only other facility that's uh we
sustain cartier is Greenville and they may take where we bring there and take
them to Greenville. >> Oh, but so we
» we would never take them to Greenville. They have to go to DJ first and they
decide where that is. >> Just thanks [clears throat] for
clarifying, >> Mr. I grew up in counties that had their
own juvenile homes. I've never seen a state that has one that we got to drive
a day and a half [clears throat] to get there and back. Is that really what
happens here? >> Yeah. of the only facility that's um
» wow >> licensed to do this kind of
» and then I read in here that they won't take 17 year olds. What do we do with
them? >> Uh that's not um they they would go to
be charged as an adult and go to uh >> so is 17 the age of majority in South
Carolina. >> Uh I think it depends on the crime and
how the the uh solicitor's office decides to charge the person.
» Wow.
» [clears throat] >> says they will not be admitted. Oh,
» I'm sorry. It says if not be admitted >> if charged as an adult. Okay, I got it.
All right. Thank you. >> Anything else?
» All right. Then the uh motion is simply to approve this memorandum of agreement.
Miss Medina, will you call the role? >> Mr. Sty,
» yes. >> Mr. Coleman,
» yes. >> Mr. Walls,
» yes. >> Mr. Longman,
» yes. >> Mr.
» Yes. Yes, fair.
» Yes. Motion carries unanimously and the memorandum of agreement is approved.
We'll now move on to uh first resolution and I need a motion for that.
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Lawren, >> make a motion to approve resolution
26-0224, acceptance of donation from Eugene Reed.
» I'll second it. Okay. You get one of us. >> Um Mr. Vincent, you want to just tell us
very quickly? Yes. Uh so uh last meeting we had we did a proclamation from Mr.
Reed and so then now this is a resolution to accept the funds.
» Any questions, comments? Okay. So the motion on the table is to
accept the donation. Miss Medina, will you call the roll?
» Mr. Savior? >> Yes.
» Mr. Coleman? >> Yes.
» Mr. Walls? >> Yes.
» Yes. >> Mr. H?
» Yes. >> Miss?
» Yes. >> Yes. Motion carries unanimously. The
donation is accepted. Our next resolution is uh about KSDB. I need a
motion. I'll keep it going. >> Good job.
» Make a res a motion to approve resolution 26-0225
of sec acceptance of donation to keep Surfside Beach beautiful committee from
Jane Burie Morgan. >> Say that right.
» Uh Mr. Vincent, you want to tell us what's going on here? I got this from
the finance department. So, this is a generous donation from Jane Morgan to
the KSBB for $300. >> All right. Uh, Miss Morgan is here. Do
you just want to tell us uh what you're doing? Come on up.
» Why are you being so nice? [laughter] >> You know, I love surf this best big
little town or whatever. You know, I do four parties a year and I have been
lucky in my life. And so, I pick a charity at each party. I try to give to
all the guests who want to [laughter] contribute you know5 $10 whatever. I
always always start it with my 100 and um I think the first one was veterans in
honor of my dad World War II veteran and then the food bank here always pick
things in search uh choice for Todd at Christmas I'm glad to say they had to
come out to the house four times to bring the big boxes. I did invite 300
people to celebrate my birthday though [laughter]
and then uh Surfside Beach Cleanup which I always knew I'd do. trying to get
Missouri summertime and then I just did the humane society and based on
listening to needing a firehouse that they practice in I'm thinking my next
one needs to be [laughter] >> I was sure she would
» I know I tried I was hoping he'd still be here when I anyway so it's just I
love the sound >> thank you very much thank you and uh
and we have KBB here would you uh come up and tell us what you plan to do with
this? >> What can y'all do?
» Miss Miss Laworn loves public speaking, so [laughter] this advance
we're going to invest in a tent with our um brand on it with KSB like the police
have in fire department. >> As you see, we you're at every event, I
think. So, >> yes, we're at every
» All right. >> Oh my.
» I was told that we can't ask her any questions.
» Thank you. [laughter]
Don't even try, Mr.
» Anything else? >> No.
» Thank you very much. >> Oh, wait. We got to vote first.
» Oh, yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah, we haven't we haven't.
[laughter] >> Well, need to double it.
» She has somebody here that >> I ain't asking her any questions.
[laughter] We realize the writing on the wall.
» Let's vote and then we'll take some pictures. Okay. So, the the motion on
the table is to accept this donation from Miss Morgan for the KSPB uh branded
T. >> Mr. Sty.
» Yes. With a thanks >> Mr. Co.
» Yes. >> Mr. Walls.
» Yes. >> Mr. Wahurn.
» Yes. >> Mr. Hyatt.
» Yes. >> Miss Fallon.
» Of course. Yes. >> American.
» And yes. Motion carries unanimously. Your donation is accepted.
» I might remind I'm in the hotel business and this equipment and cars don't want I
can help that way. But a lot of equipment costs [laughter] and stuff
like that is what I do.
I can't see you. There you go.
» You guys are supposed to take
» Oh, yeah. Yeah.
» All right. Thank you very much.
» All right. We have another resolution for public works director. Can I get a
motion there? >> Sure, why not? Um, we make a motion to
approve resolution 26-0226, reappoint of public works director to
the technical advisory committee for the 2627 revision of the Ory County Solid
Waste Plan. >> Director, you want to tell us what's
going on here? >> Absolutely. Thank you again. Um the Ory
County Solid Waste Authority uh is subject to the rules of the South
Carolina Solid Waste Policy and Management Act of 1991. Uh they required
every few years, used to be three years, we made it five now to update their uh
solid waste management plan for the county that we it's almost like a plan
for solid waste for the county. You talk about population trends, recycling
trends, and things we can do to make them better in all of our communities.
and uh I've been on the committee this my fourth round uh with them and uh we
need a council resolution to appoint me as town's representative back onto the
committee technical advisory committee. So you just looking for extra things to
do in your spare time, right? >> I think. Yeah, they they asked me and so
I can't say no. They're all good to me. >> All right, mayor. I go ahead.
» Yeah, please. I just I just wanted this is kind of a really critical time, isn't
it? I mean, they're looking at expanding >> the the fill
of the landfill. Yeah. >> Hugely expand it uh for through the
year, whatever. But I mean, we've heard all
» trying to get the 2050 out of the current landfill.
» And you're uh so you being part of that. >> Yeah, like I said, this is my fourth
round going with this. We've been doing it for a while and and landfill space is
eventually going to run out in the county and the garbage is going to have
to be shipped out of state more than likely unless they permit more class two
and three landfills. So, it's a real you try to buy years. You try to buy some
years and expand as much as you can. Come up with ways to reduce the waist
stream, increase recycling, uh, limit the amount of material that goes in
there. This is why we're so focused on recycling as a as a town. We have been
for a long time. I started a beach recycling program. When I started
working here, I started the e-waste and household hazards wasters program. Keep
all this material out of the landfill. We everything is separated out. Uh and
uh not everybody does as much as Surfside does. We're actually very
recognized throughout the state for what we do with recycling. Uh but it's going
to come, you know, the it's going to come to pass some someday that the the
price per ton is going to go through the roof when they run out of landfill
space. So all these strategies have to be explored and written down and that
enables the authority to qualify for state uh grants and things like that
that they get from the state. You have to have a management plan just like our
comp plan. >> Well, I will say that I I'll speak on
behalf and I know the mayor can speak to this. Anybody that's ever attended some
of these local grandstand league of cities, things that we attend
on behalf of the town, they all speak very highly of you. And you are you have
set trends for this. We're doing more than municipalities with 10 times our
money. You're doing a great job. >> Thank you.
» Yeah. Everybody respects you and speaks very highly of you.
» Your your cohorts in crime up and down the strand.
» Don't make him cry. >> No. No. It's It's true. His involvement
with this has been great. Yeah. >> Yeah. I appreciate that.
» Thank you, >> Mr. Mayor. Uh Mr. Co, you think they'll
have a recycling in this county like we're doing?
» Oh, county. Why? Well, it's it's it's all about the dollars. You know, the or
county solid waste authority does not pick up trash. They don't have uh they
won't pick up. They rely on everybody to contract it out like in the county or
garden city, let's say. Everybody has these private haulers that they get and
they if they have to pay extra if they want recycling, they'll provide it. They
want extra, but they're charging $30 something dollars for one can. So, a lot
of people aren't going to want to do it. >> So, the county has the convenience
center. Well, the private places charge how much for a can of dog?
» In the 30s? Mid30s? >> In the 30s.
» Just forget about yard. Forget about >> They don't get yard waste.
» Both. >> They don't get
» recycle. >> They don't get concrete. They don't get
» just one can a week. >> Just one can a week. They're paying 30
something. >> $35. Yeah.
» How much we paying again? >> I think we just went to 26.
» 26. >> Yes. That's everything [laughter]
you put. >> That's four times a week. Come here. Any
just one goodbye? >> Thank you.
» Thank you. >> All right. Any others? All right. The
motion on the table is to reappoint uh director Adair to the uh technical
advisory committee for the Ory County Solid Waste Management Plan. Madina,
will you call the RO? >> Mr. Sty,
» yes. >> Mr. Coleman,
» yes. >> Mr. Walls,
» yes. >> Mr. Lawren,
» yes. >> Mr. Hyatt,
» yes. >> Miss Fallon,
» yes. aircraft. >> Yes, you are appointed.
» Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
» We'll work for you. Yeah. >> All right. The final item. Uh I'll take
this because it has my name on it. A resolution supporting completion of
Interstate 73 and the modernization of the interstate highway system. Uh I'm
making a motion to approve that. Resolution 26-0227.
» All right. So, um, what we have here is a a letter came from the Myrtle Beach
Area Chamber of Commerce. Came to Director Vincent just I mean
Administrator Vincent just uh a week or so ago seeking approval to join uh a
consortium of of managers throughout the uh county and he showed it to me and I
said I think we should run that by council and get uh you know actually
vote on it. So that's what we're doing. Um, if you've been here any length of
time at all, you know, I73 has been discussed and debated throughout Ory
County for I think it's close to 30 years. Um, you know, we are the largest
uh tourist area that is not serviced by an interstate. If you've ever driven
here, >> which I think probably everybody has, uh
it's not easy to get here. And yet we uh we the whole Grand Strand area are doing
great. Um this could be a huge boon to our tourist economy. It uh could also
help diversify our economy as you know we're so tourist uh driven but you know
businesses manufacturing uh uh IT professional services they they they
tend to want to be near interstates for moving people and moving freight and uh
you know we lose out on that all the time. So, I think I73 makes perfect
sense and all we're going to do is support the letter that the chamber is
sending. We're just going to add our names to that letter if uh if this vote
is positive. Anybody else want to speak? >> Mr. Mayor,
» Mr. Hi. I'd just like to add that not only does it benefit us in economic
ways, but this is a high hurricane area and this establishes another high-speed
hopefully evacuation which I think is badly needed on the grand strand.
» Any others? All right. The motion on the table is to
support this resolution. Miss Badina, will you call the RO?
» Mr. Stamy? >> Yes.
» Mr. Coleman? >> Yes.
» Mr. Mr. Walls, >> yes.
» Mr. Wford, >> yes.
» Mr. Hyde, >> yes.
» Miss Fon, >> yes.
» Mayor, >> yes. Motion carries unanimously. Uh,
since the letter was originally addressed to Mr. Vincent, I will look
for you to uh send the uh communication back to the chamber. Yes, sir.
» With that, we're item number nine, public comments, and it's 7:55.
Come on up. My name is Anushia shift at the 210 self
drive was a teaching moment tonight came up that I want to pick up and talk about
the general came to do a presentation he didn't have a laptop director of finance
handed him her own personal professional laptop the general brought a flash card
into it know in any organization you know he himself may not know in addition
to that presentation what mar was there that immediately was trans that laptop
And that was connected to the network is already in your network. Tomorrow
morning when you turn on your computers, it's going to be on yours. If you go to
Homeland, the Department of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, none of the
equipment has the ability to log into it. This is how things get to your
system. You know, that's how somebody get into it. I'm not saying something
happened, but I think you have to watch. >> Wow.
If if I were you, I would disable all these abilities to plug in something
something to the laptops because that's how things get to your system. Just want
to let you know. >> Wow.
» Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
» It's a good point. We can't we can't interface with you, but I I think
everybody was listening.
» Bill Kenan 1312 North Elwood. Y'all talked about golf carts. My comment for
this year is I've seen more underage drivers, and I'm not even talking about
14 year olds. I've seen them so damn young they can't even reach the pedals.
They have to sit on and I tried to stop one and the mother said, "Oh, he's
fine." I've learned to slap people before, but
that was one of the big ones. [laughter] I
It is worse this year than I've seen. And and the reason I see it, I walk the
dog every day. Walk them in the morning, I walk them at night. And I'm on the
boulevard and I keep seeing them come by. And I'm old and I know that 14 year
olds look older than they used to. But this is ridiculous when they can't even
touch the pedals without sitting on the edge of much less not having a seat belt
on. I'm just talking about driving >> and they're on the boulevard. It's
crazy. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Any other?
» Well, I I want to officially because I'm gonna give you
» name and address. Oh, >> J Morgan. Um,
» even though you were speaking, what's my address?
» Just give us the street. >> Um, North Hle Drive. Um, I really am in
the wholesale equipment and car business and so listening to the cost of
equipment. So, I want to say for disposal or purchase anything, I can
never help. I don't know how it works with the city in terms of rules, but
that's business I've been doing for 38 years. So, if ever I can help that way.
I'm also treasurer for two nonprofits and some of the things I listen to on
the cyber I know a lot about because of being treasurer of two nonprofit
organizations. Once again, if I can help in any way, whether it's the policies
that I'm rewriting right now for one very large organization, but I can do
anything to help. So, strictly that's the best way to reach me if I can do
anything to help. Love >> you. Thank you very much.
» Thank you. and not looking for a consulting fee, just volunteering.
[laughter] >> Yeah, we don't want to do job
interviews. >> All right, thank you very much. Anybody
else?
[clears throat]
» Uh Tori Reed with uh Fifth Avenue North, 519 Fifth Avenue North. And I just
wanted to come in to say that from my understanding [laughter]
we are getting a sidewalk on Fifth Avenue North. And I wanted to ask how
long has this been on on the books? And do we have any say in this because I'm
uh uh I constantly am getting I'm picking up trash all week long when with
people walking up and down without the sidewalk. And now we're going to bring
them even closer to our property. And also I I'm one of uh six or seven uh
residents that have a circular driveway that once you put a sidewalk in, it's
going I'm just going to have a a large concrete in front of the house rather
than uh you know just a regular driveway going in. So, I wanted to know if this
is a done deal. Also, I talked with about 10 of my neighbors who also knew
nothing about it. So, I wanted to find out what's that process of educating
people when you're going to have something major as this. We we get a
letter to say there's smoke coming out of our sewers, but we don't get any kind
of notification that we're going to have a permanent construction uh uh in your
resident. So, I just wanted to comment to say not very happy with the way this
this uh this project is going and wanted to ask if there's anything we can do,
not necessarily to stop it, but maybe to modify it somewhat. That's all I want to
say. All right. Thank you very much.
» Any any other public comment? All right. With that, we will move into
the uh council comments. I'm going to start with uh Mr. Hyatt.
» Yeah, I'd just like to say thanks for the people that provided donations to
the town. Thanks to everybody that contributed to the meeting. Thanks to
everybody that chimed in and came here to spectate. And regarding the sidewalk
issue, um I believe that that was part sidewalks were part of the comprehensive
plan and that's where the idea is developed. The comprehensive plan is
visited about every five years. As far as modifying it, um
I think the best way to do that is to talk with your representatives and tell
us what kind of modifications you'd want.
» That's all I have. Thank you, sir. Mr. Walls.
» Yeah. [laughter] Just wanted to thank everybody for uh for coming out tonight
and sitting in. And I'm glad so many people love the town that they're
willing to help us. It's wonderful. Um and I'll look forward to seeing y'all
next time. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Um Mr. Stamp,
» I'd like to thank everybody for coming out the sidewalk deal. Send us some
information what you think. We can talk with John. John's heading up that
project. Uh, I don't think you'll be able to stop it, but you might have some
input in the way the way it goes. Maybe. Uh, I don't know that for sure, but
we'll see you in a couple weeks. We'll be back. And if you got any problem, let
us know. Thanks. All right. Um,
Miss Sean. >> Oh, it's 8:00, people. I'm excited.
[laughter] Um I appreciate um hearing that people
love our town. It is our town and um going to get back in thing u with the
senior center. So if anybody would like to help volunteer that we will
volunteers there. Um but I just want to um an extra thank
you. I was so you talk about being proud of something. I was so proud of our town
as a group of people when our K9 CIF retired.
We had residents, the police department, the fire department, committee members
there, council was there, our neighbors were there, and um it tears up being it
was the end of watch, thank goodness, it was the end of tour. and it was our
four-legged family member that's going off to
retirement. So, I just want to appreci I just want to say how much I appreciate
everybody participating. Y'all have a good night. Let's get out
of here. [laughter] >> With that introduction, Mr. Longhorn.
» Yeah. Thanks. Uh just real quick, I I first de I just want to say we
appreciate I appreciated you having the the sled person here. um also took
Anushia's comments to heart because that's um it was a no no where I work
too. You you you disabled all they weren't allowed. So um but it just goes
to show that there's a lot from a cyber security standpoint that we don't know
here in the town and getting tapped into the intelligence that comes out of that
that group I think is important to our future because it's not just about
potential fraud and payments. it's about the system getting penetrated
potentially and um and what that could lead to. So um I just strongly encourage
that as well as the training that um is offered out there because it is a really
big deal and threats change daily. It's not threats aren't stable. They um I
said I I lived in that world and um it's it's not stable. So just want to
encourage that. Um, secondly, thanks everybody for coming and it is only
8:05, so let's get the heck out of here. >> Mr. Co, just want to thank everybody for
coming out. I agree with Mr. Ken about the tough parts. I've seen tons of kids,
eight, nine years old. Oh, sure they're with their mother or father or most
likely their grandparent. Uh, I actually witnessed an accident where the child
went around the corner, couldn't maneuver the the the turn, smacked right
into a big bush. Thank god no one was hurt. Father just backed the car caught
up and let the kid continue his drive. I'm yelling and screaming out. He
couldn't care less. I don't know if it's a right of passage here or not, but it's
not safe. It's not a toy shouldn't be doing. has for sidewalks. And when I
first came in, I didn't have a sidewalk in front of my house. Then I moved to
another house. I had a sidewalk. And guess what? It was a nice addition.
Fifth Avenue North is a very very one of the most dangerous streets we have in
this town right now. There's a lot of traffic on it. A lot of people going
fast. I won't I walk all over the town. I won't walk on Fifth Avenue. No. It's
just too dangerous. It's not going to be that big of a deal.
I know people don't want it, but maybe they don't want. I don't know. But on
once they get it, I think they're going to really enjoy having a firewall
because it's going to be a lot safer for them and the people around them. Again,
thanks for coming out. That's all I got to say.
» All right. Thank you, sir. Um I'm just going to go on sidewalks uh for a
minute, too. Uh I I guess I don't know if it's next meeting or the one after
that, but I mean the survey crews, I couldn't believe it. They we authorized
the payment and they they had some people out like the next week. I can't
believe SC DOT is that un busy, but they they were there.
» That's >> Oh, okay. That's who. Okay. No wonder.
All right. But, uh I I guess an update on what's the projected plan and all
that. We talked about it briefly. um you know when we authorize the the funds for
it, but we can just do an update for the community, maybe talk about what the
plans are in in a little more detail, which side of the roads they're going to
go on and so forth. Um and again, I'll leave it to you guys when it's
appropriate to bring that. But ideally if there is any uh opportunity for
citizen input it would be good to uh have that at that you know soon so that
they could put some uh make some comment if if there is again any opportunity to
change anything. Um, secondly, golf carts. Uh, I'm not asking
Chief Mickel to, uh, answer this at this point, but I see a lot of them, and I
don't know if this is what you guys are talking about, but where the kids can't
reach, but they're sitting on the lap of mom or dad.
» Who's really driving at that point? Can that uh, family, that driver be cited
for having the kid in front? She certainly isn't wearing a seat belt,
probably. So that would in your next report just put some commentary in that.
I'm not asking for a a special uh session on this but you know just
educate all of us how how you how the police see that. Um still speaking of of
police uh the CIF retirement was uh >> pretty outstanding. Um I I can only hope
I'm that missed when I'm [laughter] >> ready to move. I don't think so.
But uh but don't throw tennis balls at me
like that. I'll just close out by saying um the primary uh runoff is tomorrow.
That's why we're meeting tonight. We're going to scoop up all the chairs and all
that. Um if you're so inclined, don't forget to vote. With that,
I need a motion. >> Mr. Mayor,
» Mr. Stamley, >> I'd like to make a motion we this
meeting. >> Thank you. Any discussion?
All in favor? I opposed. None. Motion carries. meeting a joke.