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This conference will now be recorded

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» now 6 o'clock and it is my distinct Oh
yeah, sorry. It is now 6 o'clock and

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it's my distinct honor and privilege to
call to order the regular town council

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meeting of August 24th, 2026 for the
town of Surfside Beach. Please stand as

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we begin with an invocation
from Mark of Discover Church.

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That's right.
Father, what a privilege it is to uh

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come before you to this evening on
behalf of this gathering, the people

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gathered here. I thank you for the
leadership of uh this town council. I

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pray that you would bless them

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for all those that are gathered here
that you would bless them in this time

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that uh that uh just give them a a sense
of understanding

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uh that they would know the love of
Christ in this place. That they would

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know that uh that you've made a
sacrifice for every single person in

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this room, Lord. and uh and that they
would come to know you in that way if

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they don't. Father, would you bless this
time? Would it be uh would it give you

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honor and glory? And uh would you would
you help it to be fruitful and to

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accomplish all that it needs to be done?
Your word tells us that you've provided

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everything we need for life and for
godliness. And I pray that it would be

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so during this meeting. And as you do
that, we'll give you praise because we

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ask it in the powerful name of Jesus.
And everyone said, "Amen."

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» Amen.
>> Amen. [clears throat]

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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> I thank you very much.

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» I will now entertain any motions related
to the agenda.

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All right. Hearing none, we'll move on
to minutes approval.

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» Mr. Mayor,
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» I move that we approve the minutes for
uh August 10th, 2026.

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[clears throat]
>> Second.

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» Any discussion?
All in favor?

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» I opposed. None. Motion carries and
meeting uh minutes are approved. We'll

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now move on to public comments related
to agenda items only.

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All right, I see no public comment, so
we'll go into communications. We'll

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begin with the uh sled uh presentation
from Mr. Ryan Cummings, uh lead cyber

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threat intelligence analyst.
>> Mr. Mayor, I be in two minutes.

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» We will wait two minutes.

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» No, I don't think we want to do that.
You know, you're not going to do the

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administrator's report in two minutes,
right?

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» I can.
>> You want to [laughter]

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go ahead. Go ahead. Do give me a free
Mr. Mayor and council. Um, couple

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updates for you. Uh, the bids for the
courthouse count council chamber project

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were publicly opened on August the 11th.
There were five bids received from the

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opening day. The price ranged from 4
million to 4.5 million including

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contingency. The apparent low bid is BEC
construction out of Merles Inland. Um,

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Creek and Associates will verify unit
costs, check references, review with the

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owners of similar projects, and then
report back to council on September the

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8th on the September 8th agenda. The
budget for this project was $4.

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» Secondly, the purchase of the land with
the public works complex, we closed on

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this property on August the 17th. The
next steps for uh director Adair and um

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director Roder is to reszone the
property to PL public land sending

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planning commission for their review as
it relates to the comprehensive plan.

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Selectively remove the tree canopy
engineer and design the new building.

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The proposed building will match the
existing buildings for a building size

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of 120 ft by 25 ft and the budget for
this project is 250,000.

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And lastly, with the approval of the
contract with Bolton and Ming, staff

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will begin coordinating a kickoff
meeting for the public to attend and

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give their input for the morning field
master plan. And then you have the HR

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report attached.
>> Thank you. Any questions, comments for

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uh Mr. Vincent?
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» Yeah, I guess I have one.
>> Um, so the bids came in between four and

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four and a half million. Um, did that
include the soft costs of furniture and

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that sort of thing? That does not
include the soft cost. So, we've been

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going on through that for last week. So,
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280,000.
>> Okay. Um, and how much do we currently

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have in the
the the fund to to to do this?

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» So, our total project was $4 million
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» But how much do we actually have? Right.
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Listen,
>> are you you're going to cover that?

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» We budgeted four million. We'll have to
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» Okay. Um because we're also John's
building. We have to we're looking at

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doing that as well. Correct.
>> We already budgeted that.

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» Okay. Yeah. Okay.
>> All right.

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I I got a question couple of questions.
So would you explain the contingency

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portion?
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approximately 3.8 and I believe I sent
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project was like 198,000. Contingency is
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So there may be some unit costs. By the
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building of this project, those costs
may have gone up. So that contingency is

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ours. If they don't use it, it goes back
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» Okay. And then um so with the uh
reszoning and planning commission uh

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their review to the comprehensive plan
um we're looking for that in the next

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meeting or so
>> as soon as we can get the advertisement

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we'll put on the next agenda for
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the October meeting.
>> It'll be October.

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» Okay. Okay. Uh and then uh assuming we
get that uh go ahead. Um what do we

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target the uh tree clearing and uh
property clearing and the building to

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start? Is that going to be going on this
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» Probably November, December time.
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Saturday. There's nothing in the PL
designation that's used for the

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district. So nothing's going to stop us.
It's more of a formality than anything

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else PL because the use is allowed in
the district. So, we're just going to do

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the clearing, then we're going to do the
fencing, and then we're going to bid out

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the building. So, that'll put us into
the winter, probably.

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» Okay. Okay. So, probably December, maybe
January before starts. Okay. All right.

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That's all I have. Thank you.
>> Anybody else?

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» Yeah, Mr. Hi.
>> Yeah, I have a few questions, but

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they're about the HR report.
>> Um, first one is on full-time employees.

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I'm wondering if it would be possible
and not a lot of work to break that out

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by department instead of just for the
whole town.

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» That would be fun.
>> Okay. Thank you on that. Um and then on

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the back page highlights it says
launched a new employee assistance

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program effective July 1. Is that
something that the town council needs to

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review and approve or is that just
something that's done in house?

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» It's an employee assistance program. So
is it's a part of the medical health

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benefits we have which is changing from
one group to another.

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» So we don't the council doesn't have any
role to play in that change.

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» Not the AP. Yes sir.
>> Okay. Um and then

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I had a question of uh it says here
implemented pay study results and

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recommendations effective July 5th. I
was just wondering how the costs of that

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new pay study are tracking with the
original estimates.

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» What we budgeted is exactly the pay
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» So it's Oh, okay. So it's tracking
perfectly then is the answer.

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» Yes.
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» I've got a second. Nobody else has a
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» Anybody else?
>> Just Laura. Go ahead.

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» Okay. Kind of related to the pay study.
Um, we we've talked about this two or

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three times, but at one point we
discussed a 2 to threeyear plan for the

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older employees or the longerterm
employees to try to help get them a

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little closer to where they should be. I
know we didn't do a lot of it up front

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because of the cost and that kind of
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we don't lose the bubble on that. You
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that there are guys that have been here
20 25 years and and they really didn't

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reap the benefit of this pay study
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» We're not going to lose sight of that. I
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just to see what the cost would be to
hit those higher employees that were

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been here the longest.
>> Okay. Well, and maybe for the budget

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next year, you know, see what we can do.
I I understand it's probably going to be

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a two to threeyear process. Um, I just
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» Right. I think we need to set
guidelines. So, is it 20 years or more

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or is it 15 years or more for those
employees?

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» Okay. All right. Thanks.

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» All right. With that, we'll move on. And
uh, is Mr. Cummings here now?

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» Yes.
>> Come on up.

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» Where you guys want me? There you go.
Right. Right here. [laughter]

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» got it. Um, I made a [laughter]
presentation. Uh, I mean, I don't

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necessarily need Oh, you guys have to
print it out. That's perfect.

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» Do you need a copy?
>> No, I don't need one.

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» Unfortunately, I've talked about this so
many times.

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» Excuse me, Mr. Mayor.
>> Yes.

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» Is the presentation going to be
projected for the audience?

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» Doesn't sound like he has a projection
of it. I have um a copy of it on USB

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drive, but that could work.
>> We don't have a laptop.

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» We don't keep a laptop. There we go.
>> All right, let's do it.

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» You're super laggy.
>> All right. [laughter]

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Okay, we'll take a minute.

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» Is this on?
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it's probably not on.
Oh, really?

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Good job.
>> Good job.

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I just got a notice to make sure all
council members, everybody speaking the

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microphone when we're speaking. Some of
it's not being picked up too well.

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Okay.
I hope everybody can see it, but if not,

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I'll do pretty good job of [laughter]
just kind of explaining it and breaking

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it down as to how it happens. And some
of the pictures are kind of just there

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to look at and they're not necessarily
for a major purpose. Um, but I'm here

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today to talk about how payment fraud
affects South Carolina organizations.

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So, um, I work for SLED and I work for
our critical infrastructure cyber

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security division. Uh, we deal with
payment fraud almost once a week at this

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point. And so, what I'm going to do
today is kind of break down how it

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happens, the different ways bad actors
are doing it. and um just kind of shed

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light on the situation and at the end
kind of not necessarily give my

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recommendations to the town because I'm
not sure exactly how it's done but how

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the recommendations that we give pretty
much any organization that this happens

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to and it's pretty simple just you know
extra verification

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so um what we do at least my
organization is we provide security

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services and disseminate cyber threat
intelligence to South Carolina's

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critical infrastructure
we facilitate the cyber leazison officer

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program which is essentially we have
contacts at all these organizations we

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support and we work with them to kind of
better their cycle programs. We lead a

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lead a task force that's comprised of
federal and state partners. I'll kind of

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go over that in the next slide but
generally um we're here to improve the

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overall cyber posture of South Carolina.

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So this is the task force. It's um bunch
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Department of Administration. We work
really closely with the Department of

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Homeland Security, the FBI especially on
a lot of these cases when it comes down

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to prosecution and actually the Secret
Service. Um they are the ones we

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primarily pass these cases to and they
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of it.
So um to start off with how payment

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fraud works, I decided to go over like
the most common scenario that we see

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birds and um that's when a vendor who
works with an organization or you know a

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statement surfite has one of their email
accounts compromised. So what's on the

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screen right now is an email that was
reported to us from one of the cos one

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of our partners at an organization
around the state. They sent this to us

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and said hey we don't not really sure
what's going on here. We looked at it.

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Um, we verified that this email came
from a legitimate vendor that they did

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the organization did work with. Um, one
thing we found particularly interesting,

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um, the email was right. It went to the
right person at the organization. The

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invoice had pretty much all the correct
details on it. The right amount, what it

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was for. The only thing that was
different was the phone number and the

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email signature. They changed one
singular digit. So, when they sent this

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to the procurement person at the victim
organization, they tried to call the

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number and they didn't get anything. Um,
and so they did that intentionally. It

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was just a broken phone number that led
to nowhere. And so, the idea with these

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is they got into the vendor's email,
they just revise the invoice, and then

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they sent it to the organization in
hopes that they would pay it. And that's

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the most common scenario that we see.
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pretty common one. um they'll compromise
the vendor, right? They'll get in there,

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kind of perform reconnaissance, you
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compromise emails, who they work with,
and they'll take that information and

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then they'll create an email address
pretty similar to the one that they

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compromised and use that email the
correct contacts and with fake invoices

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trying to get them to pay it.
Um, another really common one is vendor

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spooping. So that's pretty much kind of
like I just said, but without a

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compromise. So the actual vendor doesn't
get compromised whatsoever. So I um kind

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of did an example and kind of went over
like how could this be done at SLED and

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kind of just break it down for
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So SLED in particular in the state, they
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services. So it basically shows pretty
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vendors that work with the state. So I
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state term contracts. Um, digital
fingerprinting was one that stood out to

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me. It's real small, but I put in a red
square there. Um, because that sounds

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like something that sled would do,
digital fingerprinting. So, I was like,

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okay, I mean, that's something I can
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thread actor or somebody who's looking
to perform fraud. So, I went and looked

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further into digital fingerprinting and
the actual project name. Um, so the

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state actually says this is for sled use
only. So, the state pretty much just

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gave out, okay, Sled has a digital
fingerprinting project. Um, they also

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gave the name of the actual person that
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sled is working with. So, if you're at a
you can already start to get the wheel

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spin a bit. We know Sled works withia
Identity Solutions and we know that they

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talked to a guy called J Truit at
Idemia. And nothing against this company

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or anything like that. It was just a
random. Um, so now that we have all this

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information together, we also have the
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date. In this case, it ends in 2029, so
they're likely not going to use this

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one, but I imagine the end date is in a
couple weeks from now. So, next, they

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can create an email. And this was just
messing around to see if this would

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work. Um, I created my email address. It
looks pretty similar to the actual one.

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I emailed procurement with a fake
invoice. And I use the email signature I

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just created. It looks pretty official.
I um used the actual phone number of

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this guy, but I just changed it by one
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Google and put it down in the corner.
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legitimate email, the one for
procurement that would probably get our

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own procurement team if I'm being
honest. Um it was well put together and

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it took practically 5 to 10 minutes of
research. And so, I mean, I go over this

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purely just to show how easy it is. I
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mean, just sit down, do some research,
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you're a threat actor and this is your
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of these per day. Um, and yeah, you're
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of them.
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still kind of along the lines of payment
fraud. Um, it doesn't relate to any

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vendors actually. So, this would for
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like certified users in particular. So,
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They're essentially a login screen

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that's designed to look legitimate. So,
it's designed to look like the actual

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Microsoft 365 login screen. And so,
attackers will send these in fishing

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emails. Users will enter their enter
their credentials into it. And then the

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attackers can basically control their
account. And skipped over a few steps

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there, but so we see that that's a step
one. and um instead of like pretending

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to be a vendor, performer
reconnaissance, they'll just use that

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same account and go straight into the
self-service portal or wherever they can

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change the direct deposit, whether
that's emailing HR or there's actually

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like a portal like I have on the screen
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the direct deposit information.
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and people we work with share this with
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that pretty much all these directors are
using a thing called green dot bank. And

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this is a picture of direct direct
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see even in those vendor compromises
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We tried to look into it, but for the
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kind of track down. And if this stuff
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days, the money has already moved like
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prosecution and tracking these people
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enforcement side of things. So, that's
where my organization comes in. So, my

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team, we don't prosecute, we don't
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law side. or purely cyber security. So
we try to then help help organizations

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reduce fraud risk. And [clears throat]
the biggest thing and the best thing

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that helps in all these situations is
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controls. Um we would encourage any
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verification for all payments or vendor
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using a known phone number on file. Um,
we saw in my example and the other one

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that happened in real life that the
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has been changed. So, you can't just
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enforce out of band confirmation.
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then call that number to verify if
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Um, similar to policy is just access and
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five different people at an organization
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direct deposit. you know, it should
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verification process.
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the reason I do these talks pretty much
everywhere, is just training awareness

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to let people know that this is a thing
that's happening all the time. And um we

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always recommend using a real world
example like I did here, just showing

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how easy it is to do this type of thing
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over like the last six months, we've
seen close to two to three million

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dollars lost on this type of scam. Um,
and that's affecting people and users

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from like weekly salary to major
projects that organizations have sent to

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the wrong person.
Um, that's the NI slideshow. Sorry. Um,

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but I'm happy to answer any questions
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» All right. Thank you, sir. Any questions
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» Sure. Mr. Lawhart. Um on the second
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disseminating cyber threat intelligence
through through this critical

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infrastructure set. Yeah. How does that
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municipalities?

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» There's a couple ways. Um we're we have
close relationships with the

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municipality association um which
they're a partner and we send them stuff

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and we kind of hope that they hit the
organizations that aren't currently

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members of our program. Otherwise, it's
kind of a anybody can join our program

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and if you join our program, we're
sending you stuff constantly. Um, we try

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to build awareness by just going to
events and speaking and advertising as

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much as we can, but it's hard to get
every single municipality or school

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district or government entity in South
Carolina. Um, there's no like law

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enforcement that we have to say that you
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so, I mean, I think a lot of
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understand what the program's about are
like, "No, we're good in cyber security.

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We don't need it." At the end of the
day, it's it's information sharing. So,

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» yeah, it's an ongoing process that we're
trying to get it out and trying to

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increase our reach. But,
>> and Jerry, do we participate in any of I

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mean, are are we getting this type of
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» We're members of MUN Association.
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» And if we're not, what do we need to do
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» Well, right now, we've asked Heritage to
kind of put some training above and

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beyond what you guys see on your
computers,

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» right? Because because my concern I mean
he said it u the threat changes all the

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time right you know mos change all the
time so what we might fix the problem a

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problem from before and not be aware of
the upcoming problems or things that are

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on the horizon. So that would be my
concern is that somehow we tap into the

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intelligence side of things that's out
there and that we develop a training

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program that actually matches that. So I
don't know how we do it but um

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» but also the finance department the
employees are a part of the government

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finance offices association so they have
seminars on this all the time which is

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the most upto-date what's going on now
with cyber crimes. All right. And then

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um and this is probably a question for
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slide right, but basically the
recommendations on how to do this. I

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know we've I know we've made some a lot
of changes and I also know you've got an

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upcoming briefing here to talk about
another way to help fortify what we're

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doing, but the the bullets he has here
about how to reduce fraud risk. How much

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of that has been incorporated into what
we're doing currently? Well, it's going

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to be a part of uh Melany's uh cash and
distribution policy. I mean, that's

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that's been updated to um Right.
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» But yeah, no, but I Yeah, I know that. I
guess my question is [clears throat]

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he's got some reasonably specific
recommendations in here um for how to

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reduce risk. I I just want to make sure
that we're we're taking the best of what

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we can get to to update our process.
>> Yes, we'll look at this and match it to

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our new policy.
>> And then lastly, the training and

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awareness. Um, I know you guys are
looking at that. Um, I to me that's the

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most important part of this is us
understand what to look for and that

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gets back to the intelligence part and
it gets back to training. So, I would

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just strongly encourage we take full
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» Yes, sir.
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say that uh um
if SLED is working directly with MASC

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that we make sure we're taking advantage
of every bit of information that comes

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through that that channel.
>> And then um uh for Mr. Cummings, you

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know, as I'm looking at how you reduce
fraud risk, uh mandatory verification,

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known phone numbers, uh out of band
confirmation, uh etc. It really, if I

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could summarize this, slow everything
down. Don't respond to the urgency.

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» Yeah, that's nail on the head 100%.
Almost all the time, this happens when

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somebody is overworked, moving too
quickly, and does something they

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probably wouldn't normally do if they
had the time, just sit there and wait a

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minute and think about it. You know,
it's

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» and that would that I believe that was a
factor in our in our case. We were

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responding to urgency uh repeated
requests uh for payment. So, um, yeah.

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So, that may, uh,
anger some of our regular, uh,

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contractors, but just too bad. We're
just going to it's going to take an

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extra week or two or whatever,
>> and we're going to deal with it. I mean,

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is that doable on our end?
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» Okay,
>> that's all I have. Thank you.

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» And then one thing just on that topic,
um, this presentation, I made this six

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months ago before any of this even
happened at Cerside. this this continued

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to be such a relevant thing that so
literally none of this really has

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anything to do with the particular
incident that happened here but it just

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applies in so many different ways and
different things that we see that keep

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happening so it's not a single out
search this presentation was entirely

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about that it's just unbelievable how
often this happens

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» I appreciate it but you know and kind of
the shoe fits kind of deal so you know

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we get it m
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how come you can't keep tracing the
money when it gets out? What what

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happens that it gets gone and that you
can't trace that money?

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» Yeah. So, it's kind of a complicated
process and it's kind of interesting

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because the people who are actually
doing this are not the same people that

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are handling the money. Um, I'm not the
best at this because I don't do much of

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the money aspect, but there's people in
the United States and they're called

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they're in our industry referred to as
like money rules. So they basically

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launder the money for these out of
state. Most of these people are either

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in Eastern Europe, Russia, um name of
choice, but they have groups of people

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who specialize in moving money. That's
all they do. And so they're able to once

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they hit a bank account, hit another
bank account. And who knows if those

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bank accounts were created by the threat
actors or they were just compromised

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other bank accounts. So these the money
before it hits its final place is going

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through three or four different places
and then being transformed into

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cryptocurrency which is even harder to
track. Um and it just moves so fast. Uh

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this type of thing will get reported to
us when the organization gets reported

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to by the vendor. So like three months
later the vendor is like hey where's the

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money? And the organization says we
already paid it. um then it's reported

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to us and by that time the money has hit
five different bank accounts has been

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converted into two different
cryptocurrencies and

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is God knows where. Um that said we've
had luck in prosecuting these people and

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actually taking these people to court
but it needs to be reported within like

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the first two to three days or the money
is pretty much lost. And the banks are

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doing their best, too. I we work with
them to kind of make them aware of what

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it looks like. But there's just so many
ways that people are getting around it

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and being creative with it by using
actual real people's bank account to

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funnel money through it. And that person
has no clue what's happening or there's

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just so many different ways to get
around it and they move quick. And it's

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like as soon as we adapt and we figure
out the way they're doing it, they're

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already on to the next one.
The money is the hardest part. like we

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can track the cyber part pretty simply
and like understand that this is how

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it's happening but the money is is still
working on it.

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» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Hyatt,
>> yeah, I have a few questions. You said

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you were training this kind of
information six months before the hitman

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occurred in Surfside Beach. What did we
miss that we didn't get that training?

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How should we what did we should have
been a part of in order to have received

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that training six months earlier? Yeah,
the um the our South Carolina critical

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infrastructure cyber security program.
And I mean, you know, understanding that

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and coming here, I realized that we
probably need to do a better job of

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getting word out there and recruiting,
you know, towns and organizations to

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join our program because it's not just
on search. If this information never

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crossed certainly is not their fault
that this information didn't get to them

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and help them soon.
>> I'm not trying to say it's anybody's

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fault. I'm just wanting to know how we
could have been a member and gotten the

410
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:49,279
information six months previously. I
mean, yeah, to become a member, you just

411
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,799
I mean, contact anyone. We have a public
website where you request to join the

412
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,919
program and you fill out a form and it's
as easy as that. You're getting invites

413
00:29:54,399 --> 00:30:01,200
to our webinars. You're getting emails
about free cyber security services. Um,

414
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:05,279
you're getting bulletins sent out to you
and we see this type of stuff happening.

415
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:11,760
It's pretty Yeah, you just signed up on
the website and um it's scic.sc.gov

416
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:15,440
up and there's a request to join form,
but I'm pretty sure at this point Town

417
00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:20,960
Sera has joined the program.
>> Okay. Um,

418
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:26,000
there's a SLED was a lead agency in this
investigation, not our own police

419
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:30,000
department. They turned it over to SLED.
We at some point should get a report,

420
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:35,039
you think, since we're the victim of
what uh SLED has determined. How do we

421
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,320
get that report?
>> Um, that's something I can take back to

422
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:42,000
my team. So, I wasn't the one who like
firsthand investigated this case or

423
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,440
anything like that. So, um I can go back
to the mask and we'll see if I can get

424
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:51,039
you guys something or at least a write
up of what we found exactly.

425
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:57,120
» Okay. And then um I have a question on
how this how this criminal works. So,

426
00:30:54,159 --> 00:31:03,520
the criminal is outside the system. Does
the criminal

427
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:08,480
enter the system with the vendor or does
he enter the system with the payer or

428
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,799
does he enter the system with the vendor
and then go to the payer? How do they

429
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,399
enter the system?
>> Everything you said is an opportunity

430
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,240
for them. So yeah, they can enter with
the vendor and find out who the vendor

431
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,600
is working with and I mean that's
usually the most profitable route for

432
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,039
them because the vendor has multiple
different customers paying them and they

433
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,279
can pretend to send new ones to each of
those customers or they can get into the

434
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,279
actual victim's network, right?
Understand who they're going to be

435
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:38,399
paying pretty soon and then create a new
email pretending to be that person.

436
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:42,559
Exactly. I mean there's just multiple
routes for it and all it takes is one

437
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:45,600
compromised email.
>> So to answer your question, all of them

438
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,960
All the above.
>> Yeah. Every single case it's we've seen

439
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,960
it with the victim organization, the
vendor or somebody who just Googled who

440
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:57,039
the organization works with. I mean,
it's all of them.

441
00:31:55,039 --> 00:32:02,640
» Thank you. That's all I have. Mr. Mayor,
>> Mr. Mayor Sean, [clears throat]

442
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:07,760
» Mr. Hy brought up a good point as far as
how do we get involved in this sled

443
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:12,799
training? Um, and I don't want to assume
that we're already doing this. Are we

444
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,679
doing this? Are we part of this train?
We have not joined the sled program, but

445
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,519
we will.
>> Okay.

446
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,519
Thank you.

447
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:29,302
» Thank you, Mr. Cummings.
>> Thank you. I'm here happy to speak to

448
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:33,480
you guys. I love service many times.
[laughter]

449
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,480
» Thanks for the plug.

450
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:40,240
» All right, we will uh move back to our
director's reports. Well, we skipped or

451
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:47,559
we did the administrator's reports.
We'll begin director's reports. So, uh,

452
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,559
Director Guber, kick us off.

453
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:00,797
» [clears throat]

454
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:10,480
» Good evening. Um, we're reporting on the
month of July and of course July is a

455
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,760
beginning of a new fiscal year. So, at
this point, you're going to see the

456
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:20,480
trend will be that our expenses are
higher than our revenues until tax bills

457
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:26,640
go out. We start receiving that tax. Um,
in July, we had 32 new businesses.

458
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:32,320
um nine in town, 12 out of town, six
contractors, and five rentals. Um for

459
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:37,200
accommodations tax, we don't see the
first quarter of that until about

460
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:43,279
October, November time period. And then
for hospitality and local aid tax, the

461
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:48,720
first two months of what the um county
sends to us gets back prior year because

462
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:53,120
it's prior year money. And then same
with June, what we collect in June for

463
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:58,640
hospitality locally tax gets approved
back to June. Um, sorry, what we what we

464
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:03,440
collect in July gets approved back to
June. So, right now, you'll see that

465
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:09,679
there's no no revenue really yet for
hospitality and tax. Um,

466
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:15,040
for capital projects, I just put a
little reminder of what the projects are

467
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:20,000
for this fiscal year. We're um doing the
road paving.

468
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:24,720
uh Martin Park master plan, the Fuller
Park pickle ball courts, um finishing

469
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:28,399
the floral clubhouse renovation,
sidewalks, we started the life cycle

470
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:35,119
maintenance program for all our
buildings, and of course the court and

471
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:40,079
council chamber building. Um storm water
collected 18,000 through July. There's

472
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:46,159
no major projects at this time. So we
are approving that money for the next

473
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:52,480
big project. Um on the enterprise funds
uh we had 74,000 in operating revenue

474
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:59,839
and of which 36 of that 74 was for
parking and then um expenses are 16,000

475
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:04,640
for July. Sanitation revenues are
277,000.

476
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:13,119
Our expenses are 76,000.
And then our parking for July is 111,000

477
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:19,839
and our expenses are 1.4.
Um the investment pool the interest rate

478
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:23,359
remains consistent at 3.9 which is good.
Um

479
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:28,960
so basic overview during the month of
July the finance department works in two

480
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:33,839
fiscal years. Um we work throughout
August to collect prior year revenues

481
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:39,200
and pay prior year expenses to acrew
back to June to complete fiscal year 26.

482
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,839
Um the finance department also has a
very been very busy collecting the data

483
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:48,320
and answering questions for the audit.
Um which they were there last week. So

484
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:54,560
so we've been answering lots of
questions. Uh everything's been going

485
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:58,880
great with them and that's all I got.
>> All right. Thank you very much. I think

486
00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:01,440
the uh July report is always kind of
skinny.

487
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:05,280
» It is. [laughter]
>> It's kind of hard to to draw any

488
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:07,119
conclusions at this point. Are there any
questions, comments for director

489
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Groover?
>> Mr. Mayor,

490
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,920
» go ahead. Sean, go ahead.
>> Um, under the

491
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:23,440
uh the first page, you said five
rentals. Are they new rentals

492
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:26,320
or are they just rentals?
>> They're new business license rentals.

493
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,320
» They're new.
>> Mhm.

494
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,880
Is that when like somebody sells their
rental and then there's new like change

495
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,920
of
>> Yeah. So they bought something, they

496
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,480
decided to rent it out or maybe they
already own it and they've decided, hey,

497
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:45,040
I'm going to rent this out.
[clears throat]

498
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:51,200
» Thank you.
>> Hi. Um, under capital project fund, I

499
00:36:49,995 --> 00:36:54,320
[clears throat] think all the projects
that you've listed are funded in the

500
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:57,920
budget. Is that correct?
>> Yes.

501
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:02,480
» Okay. And um
under sanitation fund operating revenue

502
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,800
is 277,000
while expenses are 76,000. That makes

503
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:10,800
John a dare look like he's skinning a
fat hog. Is that really the

504
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,640
[laughter]
>> especially since we had an increase?

505
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:20,079
» That's the whole point of an increase is
to start gaining that fund balance again

506
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:26,160
for this fund so it can sustain itself
for the next 10 to 13 years,

507
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:32,640
» right? Um, and then under parking,
parking revenue is 111,000, expenditures

508
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,839
are 1.4,000. That's $1400. Is that
really correct?

509
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:38,000
» Mhm.
>> Wow. Okay. Thank you.

510
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:42,079
» That's just for July.
>> Thank you.

511
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:49,920
Others,
Mr. Mayor, Mr. Co. Um, the enterprise

512
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:53,920
fund for the year, we're getting 36,000
parking. That makes it only 38,000 from

513
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,400
everything else.
>> Yes.

514
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:03,359
» That's like rent and stuff.
>> Yeah, that's your um rents, your um

515
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,880
fishing revenue. Um any kind of events
there,

516
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:11,271
binocular revenue.
>> Wish you had a bigger parking lot.

517
00:38:09,251 --> 00:38:11,271
[laughter]

518
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:21,480
» Same amount of money for people parking
to come here and get from the roots.

519
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,480
That's Thank you.

520
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:30,440
All right, then. Thank you, Director
Guber. We will now move on to the fire

521
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,440
department report with Chief Nelson.

522
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:41,839
Good evening. Just want to let everybody
know that we have 42 personnel currently

523
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:46,400
in the fire department. Of those 42
personnel, 18 are career and 24 are

524
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,320
volunteer and 24 volunteer. We have
roughly 16 that are interior

525
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:54,560
firefighters. Uh so we've changed that
around quite a bit. Uh we do have one

526
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,200
opening currently at this time. It's for
a firefighter paramedic position. Uh we

527
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:05,280
fill that position that will give us two
paramedics on each shift which will help

528
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:09,040
us in the long run. Um lastly, uh PA
fire incident uh that we've been doing

529
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:15,040
the collections and stuff. We collected
another $250. That gives us a grand

530
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:20,280
total so far this year, 2,870
fire inspections that we started going

531
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,280
for. We have $6,900.

532
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,720
» Thank you. I'm going to break my own
rule and it's not part of your report,

533
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:30,472
but what happened?
>> Uh, bicep tore off, so heard.

534
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:32,492
» Okay, maybe I shouldn't have asked.
[laughter]

535
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,440
» All right, I'm done already, Mr. Sty. Go
ahead,

536
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:44,160
» Chief. the money that you've been
collecting on this uh accidents and

537
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,280
whatever you doing. Yes, sir.
>> Do you know how much you got in that

538
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,119
fund now?
>> I would say anywhere from 8 to 10,000,

539
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:55,839
but I don't have a direct number.
>> Are you still planning on building a

540
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,040
train facility out here?
>> Yes, sir.

541
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,960
» Are we have we got enough money to get
started on that?

542
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:07,280
» No, not yet.
>> Okay. Uh, I've gotten a couple estimates

543
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:14,160
and we're looking anywhere from 250 to
$300,000

544
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:19,280
to build the whole system.
Uh, you got to figure all these they're

545
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:23,760
conx boxes. That was what we used. Uh,
they all have to be fabricated. Uh, we

546
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,720
have to have a welder come in, cut it,
join the boxes together. uh they have to

547
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:33,920
build stairwells in there, uh water
piping systems and uh quite a bit of

548
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,359
work goes into building that. Um the
gentleman that I got the one bid from is

549
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:42,960
the one that does Merles inlet Myrtle
Beaches he did not do counties county

550
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:48,000
did their own. They had a welder that
worked for them at the time.

551
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:52,800
We couldn't do it in stages. Uh there is
two stages that we could do. One is

552
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:55,440
250,000 and then additional is 100,000
added on.

553
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,480
» Oh, we're talking [laughter]
>> just to burn it down.

554
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:03,359
» I hear you.
So, so we're at 20,000 roughly. I would

555
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:08,040
say that we got 10,000 20,000 somewhere
in there that we've collected over this

556
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,040
last.

557
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:16,160
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Wall could ask a
question. This would include Mel

558
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:18,960
Melanie. Oh, hello. I got my Melanie. We
are keeping a separate bucket for him so

559
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,839
he can
>> We're keeping this money separate.

560
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,040
» Yeah.
>> You said that I remember when we talked

561
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,720
about it like a year ago.
>> We wanted him to have we didn't want him

562
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:33,200
to have to collect it, but we did want
him to have a place

563
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:36,160
» where where we were holding it for him
>> so he could keep up with it separate

564
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:41,760
from any other.
>> Okay. Just double check. Thank you,

565
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:47,200
» Mr. Mr. Hi. Chief, I have a question on
the number of calls volunteers were

566
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:53,839
dispatched to chart. For example, on the
left side it says volunteer ID number 74

567
00:41:51,680 --> 00:42:01,280
responded to one call, but on the right
it said volunteer ID number gave zero

568
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:06,960
hours to the department and then 52
uh right below it ID number 52 says

569
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:10,319
responded to 28 calls and yet they're
not even listed over there on the right

570
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,680
side. So, am I misinterpreting this?
>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

571
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:18,240
» So, hours are different from response
calls. Um, so we have some volunteers

572
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:23,680
that aren't listed in this as a part of
operations. They collect hours. Um, so

573
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:28,640
they would help out when we do uh public
affairs and stuff like that and they get

574
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:32,160
counted with hours as far as that when
when the call volume that's an actual

575
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:38,440
they get a call, they don't get hours
per se for that call volume.

576
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,440
» Very good. Thank you. Appreciate it.

577
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Mr. Coleman, go ahead.
>> I see you have 30% of your calls on

578
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:48,319
cases of illnesses and stuff.
>> Yes, sir.

579
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:52,319
» Um,
any word from County about the

580
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:58,319
ambulance?
>> Uh, I go by Cypio Lane a lot. There's

581
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,400
two ambulances in that uh in the bay
there.

582
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,200
» One's a spare.
>> Okay. So, they have a spare there. So,

583
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:09,280
» it's not manned or anything like that.
The only thing that that ambulance is

584
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:12,880
used for is if that another ambulance
has go out of service, they go there,

585
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:18,079
pick up that ambulance, and jump into
it. You know, it blows a tire or engine

586
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:23,359
or whatever the case is. So,
>> I was just hoping that

587
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:29,040
we're just keeping that Senate over
press, you know, on that.

588
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:33,280
» Oh, well,
Mr. Mayor.

589
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Anybody else?
>> Go ahead, Mr. Walls. That's just an

590
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:42,800
interesting observation on Harry's
comment. When we hear that that

591
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,560
countywide we're 48 ambulances down
>> and they got

592
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,040
» that's where it's not that they don't
have the equipment. It's that they don't

593
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,640
have
>> you got to figure if if they're covering

594
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,839
1,200, 1100 square miles, they got to
have so many spare ambulance and they

595
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,359
have spare engines and everything else.
Yeah. And that's where they house them

596
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:04,160
at and stuff like that. Unfortunately,
hiring paramedics is kind of difficult.

597
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,920
Uh, you know, we're starting at 51,000,
Merles Inlet starting at 61,000, then I

598
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:12,640
don't really know what county is
starting at. Um, you know, so it's it's

599
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,160
uh getting a medic anymore is very
difficult. One of our one of our

600
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:20,160
captains is planning on going to med
school, which is awesome. We're very

601
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:23,839
excited for that. Um, if we can send
some more people through, we glad we do

602
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,119
that, too.
>> If I could, that's like the top of the

603
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,720
fireman ladder, isn't it? That's
>> before you go into administration.

604
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:32,000
» That that's the top as far as EMS side
of it.

605
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:37,040
» Okay.
>> Yep. Next thing after that would be

606
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,200
probably a physician's assistant, a
nurse, and going into the hospital.

607
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:45,280
» Oh, right. Yeah. Okay.
>> Thank you.

608
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:49,520
» Any others?
>> All right. Thank you, Chief Nelson. We

609
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:54,560
will move into the communications report
with Mrs. Maul.

610
00:44:51,760 --> 00:45:01,200
» Good evening, everyone.
>> Hello. Um, okay. So, um, pretty proud

611
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:07,440
that we've hit 50,000 followers on
Facebook. So, yay us. Um, we have

612
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:12,000
interviews for our new position. Uh,
those have begun and they will continue

613
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:18,880
over the next week or so. So, we're
excited about that.

614
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:24,240
um our summer events have um wrapped up
for the season, but just remember that

615
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:30,160
we still have the same things that go on
during our fall months as well, which is

616
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Music and Memorial Park, Farmers Market,
and then the Arts and Crafts Market. And

617
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:43,200
then we're getting really psyched about
the the summer fireworks festival, which

618
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:46,720
will take place 5 to 9 at the pier. Um,
and then just wanted to give you a brief

619
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:53,920
update. You guys have all this
information in your packet. Um, but uh

620
00:45:52,079 --> 00:46:01,359
just to kind of give you a little update
from our logistics meeting. Um, so the

621
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:05,680
pier indeed will be closed and that's
the pier from the gate to the end of the

622
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:11,599
pier. That's going to be closed all day
for the fireworks festival for our

623
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:18,400
safety. Um and then our pier businesses
will be allowed to remain open all day

624
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:25,599
um after the fireworks have been loaded
onto the pier. So um and we plan on

625
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:30,240
loading in around 6ish
um that morning. So everybody's safe,

626
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:38,079
our businesses are safe, our uh town
people are safe um and then our visitors

627
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:42,319
will be safe. So, um, that is a wrap up
of those event details. I think our next

628
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:48,599
meeting is on Wednesday.
And that's all I have for you.

629
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,599
» All right. Any questions, comments?

630
00:46:48,800 --> 00:47:00,200
» Mr. Coleman, um,
why is all the summer events backed up?

631
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,200
» Kids are not in school.

632
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,920
Some of the kids
aren't in school yet.

633
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:13,680
» I understand. Yeah, we we roll on the
the general school schedule.

634
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,680
» Family game then we still could do that.
>> Um, you know, I'm again remember when I

635
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,960
was going through this, I was going
through some tests, right? So, what I

636
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:28,720
would say to you is I find a very strong
opportunity for the community family

637
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:33,440
game nights. Um,
if I and I haven't baked it all yet, but

638
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:39,280
if I had to say I would back it up a
little bit like around 6:30, 7:00

639
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,520
u, mom and dad go to the pier village,
they have dinner or downtown businesses,

640
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:47,760
whichever they prefer. Um, and then we
start some support. So, we had a start,

641
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:53,359
stop, continue with um, a meeting for
that. So, we've got some pretty good

642
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:58,560
ideas that are on my dry erase board.
I'm asking was um we were trying to

643
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:02,319
extend get more tourists here,
>> right?

644
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:07,119
» And I came down
to come to the gation here and I found

645
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:13,440
out two weeks ago you had a holder show
had a got craft

646
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:16,160
drop in you had the family game going
how do we chop li?

647
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:21,359
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. The the Yeah, I understand. But we

648
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:23,839
are working on some different things
that I think will work pretty well for

649
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,960
us.
>> Huler and Fire Dance show, they're the

650
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:34,800
ones who said we can't do it anymore.
>> Correct. This they are back to school.

651
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:39,520
The pos
saying maybe they not do it at 8:00 at

652
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,599
night. Could they do it at 6:30 or 7
o'clock?

653
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,800
» Yeah, just throw it out.
>> Absolutely. There's a lot of

654
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:50,503
possibilities out there. There are still
a lot of people up north.

655
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,523
Bad word to say.
[laughter]

656
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:00,400
» Yeah. Large.
>> So all those families are still coming

657
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:04,079
down.
>> Sure.

658
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,040
» It would be great if we have something
for them.

659
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,599
» Absolutely. And I would I totally agree
with you. We need to capture that

660
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,839
audience.
>> Thank you. Um, I actually got a question

661
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:20,240
for the administrator and not to be a
bad guy, but are we allowed to have the

662
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,720
fireworks displayed on this end of
season

663
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,480
or council have to vote on this because
it says

664
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:33,359
um
supposed to be 30 days prior.

665
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Town council will authorize public
displays.

666
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:40,640
» No, sir. A year ago, the uh the town
attorney had indicated that that section

667
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:46,800
does not apply to the town. Does it need
to be changed? It does to so that it's

668
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:50,079
» it's clear. So, it's not very clear, but
it does not pertain to town council on a

669
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,440
county event.
>> Just want to make sure.

670
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:57,319
» Yes, sir.
>> And uh can we work on making it clear?

671
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:57,319
» Yes, sir.

672
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,760
» Mr. Mayor,
>> I'll just in a minute, Mr. I just want

673
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:08,079
to add because I I brought this up with
the administrator and Mrs. Mo not too

674
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:13,680
long ago and uh because we did go
through this discussion last year and we

675
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:18,319
need to clarify it and uh unfortunately
we had the event and we just moved on

676
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:22,000
and nobody said go back. So we've all
made notes that we're going to clarify

677
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:26,000
this thing for before next year. Mr.
Hyatt has also weighed in on it. So

678
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:31,200
yeah, we should be uh much better going
forward. And with that, Mr. Hyde, go

679
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:34,000
ahead. Um, not to complicate things, but
I noticed there's some vacant spots over

680
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:37,680
here,
>> Mr.

681
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:42,000
» There's some vacant spots over here. Um,
does that mean that we're not going to

682
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:46,240
have a full-fledged vendors this year or
is it just

683
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:52,480
» We We don't have a full-fledged vendors
on the fireworks festival. That is 12 to

684
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:57,200
14 total is what we do. Everything we do
is in that parking lot area. So, one of

685
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:01,040
the start, stop, continues that we
learned last year is we were really

686
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:06,160
crowded in that little space and I know
most of you guys were there. So, again,

687
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:12,240
you're always testing things to see how
they work. So, it makes better sense for

688
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,160
us to have fewer vendors, more space for
the public safety.

689
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,440
» Very good. Thank you.
>> You're welcome, sir.

690
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:23,119
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. understand it.
>> Uh we we we [clears throat] sort of back

691
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:27,280
to the 30-day prior notice for
fireworks. So, we actually did that

692
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:33,760
because, you know, if you really think
about it, because we uh voted on this at

693
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:38,400
budget time and approved it back then.
So, it has been voted on and approved.

694
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,880
» Yes, sir.
>> Prior

695
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,359
for this. Yes, sir.
>> That's I just want to clear that up.

696
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:52,000
» Thank you.
Mr. Mayor Sean,

697
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:59,200
» um, you know, you have reported also
that like the t-shirt sales that we we

698
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:02,720
always make a profit out of that even
though we have some left over. Are we

699
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,640
going to do a sale thing?
>> Yes, we are.

700
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:11,839
» Never mind.
>> We're having to end a summer sale for

701
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:16,319
sure. Yeah. Okay.
>> Mr. Mayor, if I get a second,

702
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,040
» Hang on. Anybody else? Go ahead, Mr.
Hyde.

703
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,440
» Is there a chance our town could order
some more hats that say Surfside Beach

704
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,280
on them?
>> They are on the way.

705
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,839
» Thank you.
>> You got it.

706
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:34,440
» All right. With that, thank you, Mrs.
Maul. We will now move on to the public

707
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,440
works report from director Adair.

708
00:52:35,826 --> 00:52:40,720
[laughter]
>> Good evening, mayor and council and

709
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:45,440
citizens. Public works for July and our
sanitation division. The uh summer

710
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:50,240
rollout program is going to be going off
uh out of effect after September 12th

711
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,359
and back to our winter schedule. Uh
again, I mentioned last month the new

712
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,280
sanitation rates approved by town
council are in effect as the bill

713
00:52:55,839 --> 00:53:01,760
everybody got August 1st. Hopefully you
all got that.

714
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,040
» Yeah, thanks John. [laughter]
>> We voted for that.

715
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:09,440
» Yeah, that was took a lot of doing with
Grand Strand Water and Sewer to do that.

716
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,960
Uh uh I'll comment that [clears throat]
our next household waste e-waste drop

717
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:16,319
off event is going to be on September
11, 12th, and 13. It's not in the

718
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:21,760
report, but I fig I'd start talking
about it so everybody can put it on

719
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:25,359
their calendar. U
Mr. Hyatt mentioned earlier the

720
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,640
sanitation expenses. You're going to see
a new sanitation trucks coming in in a

721
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,079
couple weeks and you're going to see a
big expense on the expense side, the

722
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,559
sanitation fund. So
>> and a Mercedes outside.

723
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:39,359
» That'll be good. [laughter] That'll be
good. No, it's just a garbage truck.

724
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:44,160
It's a side loader. Uh so that'll bring
that extend side up a bit. Uh in our

725
00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:47,280
streets and drainage division, uh I'll
just highlight which isn't on here

726
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,960
either. Our beach reourishment
remobilization is taking place this

727
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,400
week. As most of you know, there's some
pipe still on the beach. Plastic pipe.

728
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:57,599
They're going to float that off into the
ocean. They're going to cap the ends of

729
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:01,920
it and that'll be the end of it. And the
whole beach will be open 100%. So I

730
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,240
still get calls about it. I'm sure you
guys get calls about it. Uh but during

731
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,440
the demobilization, all the sand has
been pumped already. There's no more

732
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:12,319
dredging going on and we're just waiting
for them to completely get all their

733
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:17,359
stuff off the beach and they'll they'll
be followed by sand fence installation

734
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:22,319
by their subcontractor after that. So
that won't close any beaches, the sand

735
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:26,720
fence installation. Uh in our grounds
division, we installed a new water

736
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:31,359
fountain over a park playground.
in our uh fleet maintenance division. In

737
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:35,359
July, our mechanics completed 83 repairs
on town vehicles and equipment and 16

738
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,119
vehicles had prevented maintenance of
drugs. Anybody has any questions? I'll

739
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:41,359
be happy to answer them.
>> Mr. Mayor,

740
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:46,559
» Miss Sean,
>> you said now with all the the dredging

741
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:49,599
on the beaches completely done, when
will the new signs get implemented on

742
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:54,319
the beach?
>> Once the sand fence goes up, signs will

743
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,280
go up.
>> Right. Thank you.

744
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,280
» Yeah. Mr. Mayor,
>> Mr. [clears throat] Stamy,

745
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:07,520
» uh, as everybody knows, we received a
thing today about skateboard down here,

746
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:11,599
and y'all want to inspect that. Make
sure it's safe.

747
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:18,960
» Yeah, this is not part of the report.
>> We should not be getting into these, but

748
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:24,240
yeah, it's not part of the report.
>> Sorry, John. I mean, that's what we're

749
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:30,000
supposed to stick to.
>> Thank you, Miss Medina. I I asked her to

750
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:31,839
keep me on on task.
>> Mr. Mayor, if I could.

751
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,400
» Mr. Walls,
>> just a quick question.

752
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:39,200
» Absolutely.
>> I don't recall seeing exactly what, but

753
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:44,720
I'm just curious. What does one of those
blue side loaders cost us?

754
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,079
» Almost $500,000.
>> I believe

755
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,673
looks like a real expensive piece of
equipment.

756
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:55,680
» Yeah, they're about 260 when I started
[laughter]

757
00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:01,359
half million perow.
Thank you. Yes, sir.

758
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:08,119
» Any others? Thank you, Director. Thank
you. We will now move into the police

759
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:08,119
department report. Chief Mickel,

760
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:20,359
evening, mayor, council, citizens.
So, for uh July

761
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:34,559
1,767 calls for service broken off
initiated from year to date. We wrote 93

762
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:41,359
citations,
made total of 30 arrests in July and 19

763
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:45,720
of those were
arrest warrants which are listed there.

764
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:53,760
You look at the index crimes, I don't
see anything out of the ordinary or

765
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:57,000
cause or concern there. Um, and then the
card activity.

766
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:06,720
This is year to date. Again, 10
citations, 37 warning citations, 14

767
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:12,040
accidents, five of which are injured
and pretty notable events. Uh,

768
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:20,880
We responded to an unresponsive incident
at a residence and upon arrival officer

769
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,520
administrative life saving measures and
were able to revive the child. The

770
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,920
incident was referred to child
protective services who investigated and

771
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,920
took appropriate action. I believe that
the next uh

772
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,720
council meeting myself and the fire
department will be recognizing the

773
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:39,280
officers and the fire department
personnel that were involved in saving

774
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:42,799
that child.
officers also responded to a stolen

775
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:47,200
vehicle that was stolen from a tow
company and fled the scene and caused a

776
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,760
bunch of damage when it was leaving. We
were able to work with some other

777
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:56,240
agencies and find that vehicle and issue
some charges for that subject that broke

778
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:00,559
and stole the vehicle
and of course we all

779
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,880
participated in Fourth of July events
which were really great and we had a

780
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:05,880
great time doing it.

781
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,119
» Any questions? Any questions, comments
for Chief Nickel?

782
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:17,119
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Walls,
>> if you could please. I've been getting a

783
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:22,559
lot of uh inquiries as to the the latest
golf cart activity that we've had. One

784
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,160
of them wasn't in our town. Another was
in our town. If you could just for the

785
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:29,200
good. Seems like the residents are
awfully interested in those

786
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:32,559
» Yeah.
>> certain activities. And if you

787
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,599
» I know it's a July report, too, but
there's been a lot of activity in August

788
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:38,079
with golf, too. So, I'm just going to
It's probably more what they're talking

789
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,480
about.
>> Uh, yeah, we've had enough a lot more

790
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:47,680
golf carts in town and we've had I think
we had total

791
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:51,760
» uh five accidents in August just itself.
Three three were golf carts, two were

792
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:58,319
LSVs. So, we've seen an increase in
August just as well. So, um, of course

793
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,119
they'll be in the August report, but
forget about it now because we're

794
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:05,760
talking about it. So, yeah, there's a
lot there is a lot more golf cart

795
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:10,400
activity in town. Um I think maybe only
one of those was at night. Um

796
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:14,160
still there access during the day. Two
of those I think were injury. So yeah,

797
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:19,520
there's there's been um but I I think
the countyy's seen it as well too. Um

798
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:24,319
I just I think there's a lot of
variables involved. Um I actually did

799
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:30,880
rank some numbers. Um been an increase
since last year of 21% of of accidents

800
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:36,079
involving golf carts. Um but the prior
year before that was an increase of 27%.

801
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,880
So I don't know if that correlates with
but I think there's just a lot of

802
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:44,960
variable. There is the new law that was
passed. There is population growth and

803
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:48,720
then there's also huge increase in golf
sales and rentals. We've seen them

804
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,920
spring up all over the county as well.
So I just think there's a lot of

805
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,359
interest in golf [clears throat] carts
and LSVs and a lot more people are

806
00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:00,880
getting them and so we're just seeing a
lot more of that activity as well.

807
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:06,240
I got someone called me today and and
asked where so I wanted I I think I

808
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,599
clearly told them but if you could just
for the record and everything there was

809
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:12,000
a fatality.
>> Yeah, it was not within Surfside.

810
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:16,160
» No. Right.
>> Right. Not within town. It was out just

811
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:19,520
outside of town. Uh but there was a golf
cart accident with a fatality. I don't

812
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,280
know a lot of the details. It was high
patrol I think was the primary

813
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,559
investigating agency. And as far as we
can tell, there's no ties to sid victims

814
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:30,880
as well. Yeah, it happens. I mean, we
had a major injury.

815
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,359
» Yeah, I mean, we did have injury
accident here as well around the same

816
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:38,559
time.
>> Not nearly as serious, but

817
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:44,000
» and alcohol was involved in that when we
got here.

818
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:50,079
» Thanks, Miss.
>> I'm kind of be curious to understand

819
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:56,240
these accidents with the golf carts. Is
there any way we can find out if it how

820
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:59,920
many are from rentals compared to
owners?

821
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:04,240
» I'd have to go back to each one and run
the see the problem with the golf cart.

822
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:09,839
I mean can do with LSVs very easily with
golf carts. They don't have place. So

823
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:13,119
» um
>> any reason why

824
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:18,880
» I I won't be able to get exactly
accurate numbers but I can probably get

825
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:26,160
some approximations on that. Any reason
why I'm asking is since the accidents

826
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:32,079
are going up, should and if they are on
the rental side, should the rental

827
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:37,520
companies do a better job educating, you
know, people come down here for vacation

828
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:44,960
and they rent and I see them all over
town and the rentals, I can guarantee

829
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:50,480
you no, I haven't seen that many where
they put children

830
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:54,880
in the seat belt. but they either choose
not to or they're not aware of the new

831
01:01:53,280 --> 01:02:00,442
law.
So, um it's just something to think

832
01:01:57,359 --> 01:02:04,240
about. I don't want you to go like
[clears throat] can't tell you what to

833
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:09,359
do in other words, but it'd be curious
to see if it was from the rentals and

834
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:13,520
then we could walk back and get the
rental company to educate the people.

835
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,720
» Yeah, I know the rental companies are I
even posted on the rentals. The laws

836
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,440
posted on the rentals. have any quite
ordinance there have to do that we

837
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:24,440
haven't seen anybody not complying with
that

838
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:32,319
people don't pay attent pay attention to
a lot of those labor warnings I guess

839
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:37,440
you know and
you know and again that's why we keep

840
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:41,440
these records and we go back and analy
too I mean now some of these numbers

841
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:45,359
next year and we can maybe pivot to and
come up with different enforcement

842
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:49,040
strategies for uh compliance with some
of these while we you know we can find a

843
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:54,559
way that we can try to reduce these
numbers uh focusing our enforcement

844
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:59,520
enforcement techniques so it's learning
experience for us as well

845
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,880
» Mr. Mayor Mullman.
>> Yeah, I'd like to go back to the uh golf

846
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:07,920
cart accident when someone was, you
know, seriously very Was that an

847
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:11,839
accident or was it the person fall out
of a cop car?

848
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:16,160
» Meaning it was Did they hit something?
>> Well, for it was an LSV. It wasn't a cop

849
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:19,359
car. So, it would have been allowed to
be on at that time, but it was at night.

850
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,599
» Yeah. So, car call with a different
name.

851
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,039
» Right. Right. But I was correlating with
the law. So, let's say that the the we

852
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:28,799
hadn't changed the law. You guys had not
changed the law. LSD still would have

853
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,920
been out. could have legally been out
there.

854
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,400
» I get that.
>> There was a single vehicle alcohol valve

855
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:37,760
and the passenger fell out.
>> So I know the driver was arrested.

856
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:43,039
» Correct. For
>> DUI also arrested for person getting

857
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:46,079
hurt with an accident. Yes.
>> Never hit anything cuz she fell out of

858
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:50,079
the golf car.
>> Correct.

859
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:54,640
» Was she drinking out out of duration?
>> Uh we don't have any toxicology yet, but

860
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:58,960
it's the officer the officer.
>> The investigation revealed that alcohol

861
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:05,920
she most So this was more an alcohol
incident than a golfart in but still

862
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:10,880
classified in a statement as an accident
was a motor vehicle.

863
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,160
» But the cause was somebody drinking
while driving.

864
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:17,200
» Correct.
>> And most probably the passenger was

865
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:19,119
probably had a couple too many and fell
out of c.

866
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,520
» That's it.
>> So that could have been a bicycle, could

867
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,119
have been a wagon, could have been
anything else and the person probably

868
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:30,240
would have got hurt. just trying to make
the point that it didn't really have

869
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:36,000
anything to do with a power. Thank you.
Oh, I got [laughter]

870
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:41,599
the sauce went up from from two from
last year to five

871
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:47,440
now. Is that real assaults or that was a
report? I don't I don't understand

872
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:53,680
the report.
So these are actually um

873
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:57,520
the crime data that the report
Yeah reported. So we just had five more

874
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,359
reported. It doesn't mean that there
were five actual assaults. We arrested

875
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:06,160
five people for assault. That just means
those we got those are the reported

876
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:10,559
monthly crimes. So we received five
reports of it. If you want to go back

877
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:14,240
and look if you go back and look out of
those five reports I think we have one

878
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:20,160
assault that actually occurred and
probable cause. So in essence, we only

879
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:24,400
had one assault. We had five calls.
>> Five reports and then we could only

880
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:29,119
» a report meaning somebody called that
said there was somebody way down and

881
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:34,079
said there's somebody getting
>> right. We we responded five um calls of

882
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:39,240
classified assaults
>> and only one

883
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,240
» and only one resulted in the charges.

884
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:48,160
if we can get that instead of I mean
I was a rookie. Someone ran up to me so

885
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,680
I just got robbed. I just got robbed and
I called all the troops to come and

886
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:56,559
basically what it was is they were
sitting on the bar and she went into the

887
01:05:54,079 --> 01:06:02,240
bathroom and someone took a couple of
dollars out of her apartment. That

888
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:08,359
wasn't a robbery. So the true number I I
like the true number. I don't care how

889
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:08,359
many people misal.

890
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:16,480
I'd rather have the real number. We have
x amount of assaults from this this

891
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:19,440
month to last last year.
>> Well, you have that though. So, you can

892
01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:22,079
see what the calls we responded to that
fall in those categories. And you can

893
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:25,760
look over and see see if you look at
domestic violence too. There's two

894
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,119
there. So, now that I'm looking at that,
you know, that might have been three of

895
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:33,839
the five. Those domestic violence could
have been assault. Of

896
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,880
course, some of those disorderly conduct
officer could have said, "Hey, you know,

897
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:42,000
those other ones aren't actually an
assault to disorderly conduct."

898
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:45,920
So, we report we responded to five calls
that were classified as assaults and

899
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:51,280
then go back and look at arrests that
correlate to that,

900
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,839
possibly [clears throat] three assaults.
This is two domestic violence.

901
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:59,119
» Yes.
>> This is a necessary assault if there be

902
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:03,599
harassment or
>> well the domestic violence has to

903
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:07,440
include an assault. So there was three
assaults.

904
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:10,240
» Hi Mr. Mayor.
>> He does.

905
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:14,359
» Okay. Mr.
>> I think Chris wanted to go.

906
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:22,000
» Sticks out on here. There was an arson.
Could you tell us what happened?

907
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:28,000
That was
yeah um there was third fourth of July

908
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:34,480
and there was some alcohol involved in a
incident inside a house and uh there was

909
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:38,319
a fire and the fire marshall responded
with our detective and they conducted

910
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:43,039
the fire
cause of origin investigation and

911
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:47,039
determined uh where the fire started in
the house. That's underneath fireworks

912
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:52,640
and we're able to determine who was
responsible for that in the house. Okay.

913
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:57,680
Um, a couple other questions. If you
receive more than one call for the same

914
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,200
incident, how do you count that? You
count that like let's say you receive

915
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:05,440
five calls for an incident. Is that do
you count it as one? Because that's one.

916
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:08,079
» Just one. Okay. Um,
>> because we responded to that one

917
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,799
incident.
>> And then I'm wondering,

918
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:18,319
we don't have a handle here on town
council of anything that really happens

919
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:21,600
on our beach. is do you oversee the
lifeguard services? Do you know what's

920
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:27,279
going on on the beach?
>> So, we don't oversee lifeguard services.

921
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:30,960
That's a private contract. I oversee the
uh

922
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,880
beach ambassador program which patrols
the beach. And all of their statistics

923
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,319
are right here in the report as well.
You can see

924
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:43,279
» I saw those.
>> Yeah. And then we have we break it down.

925
01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:47,679
Yeah. That's how we we keep everything
on a beach.

926
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:51,600
Um, now what be Now what the light
guards do that [laughter] doesn't

927
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,319
» so we don't have any information if
they're rescuing anybody. We don't

928
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:57,199
really know it
>> unless they call for help.

929
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,679
» Unless they call for
>> assistance.

930
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:05,600
» I have to ask is that correct? Yes.
Unless they call for EMS or fire then.

931
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,839
» And another question I have sometimes
they have to shut down the beach. How do

932
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:13,279
we know are people complying or we not
do we have a problem there? you know, we

933
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:15,839
we're kind of blind to this kind of
information.

934
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:21,120
» So, when the weather conditions cause
for the beach to be shut down, they shut

935
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:25,600
that down and then no one complies, then
they'll call us. So, nobody complies.

936
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,960
So, as you'll remember, a couple months
ago, maybe gentlemen wouldn't comply

937
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:33,279
with swimming by the pier.
>> Yes, I remember fire department brought

938
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:36,080
them to the shore and we
>> arrested him,

939
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:41,199
» took them to jail for not complying. So,
um I think you'll hear about any, you

940
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:44,560
know, vast majority of people comply um
with the life.

941
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:48,799
» Yeah. And then there's an ordinance if
they don't comply, that's a violation of

942
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:53,759
the ordinance and we can enforce it.
>> Uh one last thing, I just like to make a

943
01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:57,040
comment to the officers that helped
revive that child. Congratulations to

944
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,960
them.
>> You you'll have that opportunity the

945
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,719
next day.
>> Good.

946
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,400
» Looking forward to it.
Mr. Mayor,

947
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:09,920
» Mr. St.
>> On these 37 warrants on the golf cart, I

948
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:16,159
mean warning citations on the golf
carts, you have 37 warnings. What kind

949
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:24,159
of warnings is that for? Kindly give me
a kindly an idea what just warnings 37

950
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:28,800
warnings. you stop or got part
any of the any of the ordinance or state

951
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:33,600
law violations that the officer
determine that

952
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:37,360
well lack if you stop a golf cart and a
child is in safe would you give them a

953
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:40,640
warning
>> probably not

954
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:46,159
» would your depends on the circumstances
would your officers give a warning

955
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:51,199
» it depends on the circumstances I can't
really get into the kind of scenario

956
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:55,199
» what you're saying but it is it's It's
within their It's within their uh

957
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:58,400
» Well, it's that with legal discretion to
do so, but

958
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:02,880
» would they do that? Probably not. They
probably would give a warning for that,

959
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:09,679
but I can't say that.
>> Just a lot of warning tickets being

960
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:15,280
given out for 10 citations and 37
warnings. I mean, that's a lot

961
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:20,000
difference. Just a lot of warnings.
People get a lot of warnings. The

962
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:23,149
warnings don't go too far. I've had some
myself. [laughter]

963
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,880
» I'm telling you. Well, there you go.

964
01:11:29,644 --> 01:11:31,664
[laughter]

965
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,800
» Well, I mean, we do try to get
compliance through education if we think

966
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,880
that'll work. If we don't think it'll
work, then we issue citations and if you

967
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,320
get the warnings are all documented.
It's not like you just get a verbal

968
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,960
warning. If you if I give you a warning
tomorrow today and you get stopped by

969
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,679
another officer tomorrow, it's in the
system. He pulls it up and runs you. He

970
01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:00,080
sees you got a warning for it. You're
not getting a second one.

971
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:06,520
» He's curious.
>> He is. [laughter]

972
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:06,520
» And now I know you're not getting any

973
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:12,239
break.
>> Mr. Mayor, if I could just

974
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,320
» hang on, let me see anybody. It's just
you and me that haven't said anything

975
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,920
either.
>> Go ahead, Mr. Wall. I just wanted to

976
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:24,880
clarify something with Chief Nelson and
and you all back [clears throat] back in

977
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:30,239
the day when I worked the beach. Um, our
procedure was if we pulled anybody out

978
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:34,960
of the water, we had to call you guys in
to clear them. I mean, we we're

979
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,920
certified lifeguards, but we we're not
medical professionals. Correct. We

980
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,560
should be calling for an ambulance if
they poke somebody out.

981
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:46,080
» So, I wanted to clarify that. That's
still a procedure here. They if they had

982
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:49,520
to do any kind of life-saving rescue,
they've got to include you once they get

983
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,440
them to the sand. Well, well, if they
can get them to the sand.

984
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,280
» Yes, sir.
>> Okay. That's that's so we know about it

985
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,480
from your report.
>> Correct.

986
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:01,760
» Okay.
>> Thank you.

987
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:04,400
» All right. With that, thank you uh Chief
Mickel and Chief Nelson.

988
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,840
» Thank you. Uh we'll now move on to
planning, building, and zoning. Director

989
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,840
Broer

990
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,600
Good evening, Mayor Council members of
the public.

991
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,880
I want to try to hit the highlights
here. Um,

992
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:30,880
the second reading of the tree ordinance
will be coming to you soon. As you know,

993
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:35,120
we're refining the section on fines
versus penalties, and we've got that

994
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:39,199
ironed out, I believe. So, that will be
coming to you

995
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:43,840
uh on September 1st. Uh the planning
commission is going to be holding a

996
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:47,920
public hearing on two items. One on
locational controls or I should say

997
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:54,480
further locationational controls for
storage and additional conditions to

998
01:13:50,880 --> 01:14:01,040
apply to future vehicle fueling uh
fueling establishments. And in brief,

999
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:07,120
what that really is is that we actually
list auto service station and gas

1000
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:11,280
stations in two places in the use
matrix. And in one place, it's permitted

1001
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:16,320
and in the other place it's
conditionally permitted. So then you

1002
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:20,159
start splitting hairs and definitions of
what a gas station is and what an auto

1003
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:26,640
service station is. [clears throat]
>> Yeah, exactly. So I was put in that

1004
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:30,159
uncomfortable position to do that.
We need a change to the ordinance. So,

1005
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:34,159
we're making a change in ordinance and
we're updating it. We're doing away with

1006
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,840
gas stations. We're doing away with auto
service stations. By the way, auto

1007
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:41,760
service stations are the gas stations
that I remember. Those are the ones with

1008
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:46,400
the pumps with a rollup door and two
lifts and people were actually working

1009
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:50,560
on cars. Gas station is purely fuel.
We're updating it to call it a vehicle

1010
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:55,679
fueling establishment to include things
like electric hy hydrogen and all the

1011
01:14:53,280 --> 01:15:00,480
other fuels that may be coming along in
our near future. So, we're updating that

1012
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:05,440
to be a little ahead of the game, if you
will.

1013
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:09,600
The um last one I wanted to talk about
briefly was we heard from John is the

1014
01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:16,239
public works department is going to be
requesting a zone change proposal uh for

1015
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:23,679
a parcel next to them on the Sandy Lane
and all of the parcels back there except

1016
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:27,840
for John's uh facilities are zone C1 and
in order to be consistent with his

1017
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:31,520
zoning on his current site we'll be
taking that to planning commission to

1018
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:36,320
reszone that C1
With that, um, it's been a a long set of

1019
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,719
questions for everybody up here. I'll
just ask, is there any other questions

1020
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:43,679
that I can form you?
>> Any questions?

1021
01:15:43,132 --> 01:15:47,600
[clears throat]
>> Yes.

1022
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:50,800
» The the bullet on um preparing to bring
damages against the illegal killing and

1023
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,560
removal of an oak tree. Is that the one
that came in that just we got an email?

1024
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,760
Um,
>> it is.

1025
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:02,400
» Okay. Um, as I always like to say, I
have 75 excellent code enforcement

1026
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:06,880
officers out there in golf carts, uh,
taking names and taking pictures. So, we

1027
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:11,120
have a picture of it. We didn't have a
picture of it coming down, but yeah, it

1028
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:15,440
was a tree that
from [clears throat] my understanding

1029
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:20,960
was a past issue. Somebody tried to kill
the tree chemically.

1030
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:25,520
» Uh, the tree is, and the picture that we
have is the tree is dead. There's no

1031
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:30,719
question. there wasn't a leaf on it. Um,
but there was still an illegal removal

1032
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:36,080
of it. So, we're just following up on
that and doing the appropriate

1033
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:41,440
enforcement action on that.
>> Thanks. You're welcome.

1034
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:46,560
» Any other
Thank you, director. Very much. We'll

1035
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:53,840
now move into our discussion item item
7A on placard. Mrs. Maul is going to uh

1036
01:16:50,719 --> 01:17:00,159
introduce this topic. All right.
Um I'm pretty excited to uh put this

1037
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:04,800
presentation before you by Trent. Um
I'll just give you a brief overview. Uh

1038
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:09,600
when you are looking at your
presentation

1039
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:13,920
um in your packets, uh there's two
pieces to this. What's one is called

1040
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:20,640
peercast and of course the other one is
called placard. We can marry the two

1041
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:25,920
names if we want to. Um, so, uh, it's a
system that allows basically a QR code.

1042
01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:30,239
He's going to give you all the info, but
it's a QR code that if I'm a person that

1043
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:35,120
I'm going to go fishing on the pier, I'm
going to scan that QR code. It's going

1044
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:38,880
to tell me what's biting currently, what
we are using as bait, etc. I won't steal

1045
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:41,840
all your thunder.
>> Oh, you're good.

1046
01:17:39,679 --> 01:17:48,800
» And then the second part of that is a
digital sign 60 by 30 where I can scan a

1047
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:53,280
QR code and I can I don't have to Google
restaurants near me, happy hours near

1048
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:56,800
me, what are the beach rules? I don't
have to Google any of that. It's all

1049
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,840
going to be in one great place for you.
With that, Trent, thank you very much.

1050
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:04,000
Of course,
>> council members, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1051
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:10,239
Thank you for having me.
>> Uh so, essentially, this is uh Placard.

1052
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Um I'm a co-founder of Placard. I
started Placard with my friend Chris

1053
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:20,320
Coulter. Uh we both moved here from
Florida. We've been here for about uh

1054
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:23,280
six to seven months and absolutely love
it here. We plan on staying here for a

1055
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:26,880
while. Had a wife and four kids and I'm
very excited to continue live by the

1056
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,880
beach. My wife missed it dearly. So
we're going to be by the beach for a

1057
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:34,640
while. So um we started placard because
we had some questions. So let's go

1058
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:38,239
through those questions. So first and
foremost, what is placard? We connect

1059
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,800
physical places to dynamic digital
experiences that can be updated

1060
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:48,640
instantly. This is a live example of our
Surfside uh short-term rental location

1061
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:53,199
called Surfside State of Mine.
Essentially, what you do when you walk

1062
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:58,880
into this short-term rental, if you are
on Airbnb or Verbbo, is you can walk in,

1063
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:02,560
you see this plaque, you scan it, and it
tells you immediately 90% of the

1064
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:06,880
questions that you have about being in
that space. The whole purpose behind

1065
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,520
this is to deliver information the way
it's never been delivered before. Right

1066
01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:13,840
now, you're googling things. Right now,
you're asking track GBT and that's how

1067
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:16,640
you're getting information. People
really want to engage with something

1068
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,400
that's native to their phone. So, we
create mobile web apps to do exactly

1069
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:23,120
that. So, when you walk into this
short-term rental, this is the

1070
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:25,760
experience you get. You can press copy
right on that button for the Wi-Fi

1071
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,560
access and then paste it right into your
Wi-Fi password. So, it's super easy,

1072
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,320
really convenient, straight to your
phone. It also tells you everything

1073
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,360
that's local. It's all geoloccated, so
you never have to worry about if you're

1074
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,679
in a short-term rental in another city
that you're not going to be able to

1075
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:45,440
indulge in the local uh farmers markets
or or events around the area.

1076
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,719
So, where it started, uh Purecast, this
is our first baby, and you're more than

1077
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:51,920
welcome to scan this with your phone if
you'd like to get a firsthand

1078
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:55,600
experience. You just hold your phone up,
open up your camera, and point it right

1079
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:00,400
at that QR code, and it'll open the
PierCast mobile web app right now so you

1080
01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:04,719
can see exactly what it looks like. Uh,
Piercast started because Chris and I met

1081
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:09,920
and we were at a 1 million cuffs event
in Myrtle Beach and we went out to the

1082
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:13,440
pier, Pier 14, and we wanted to know
about fish that people were catching. We

1083
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:18,239
wanted to know what kind of bait, what
kind of rigs they were using, and nobody

1084
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:21,440
could answer any of our questions. So,
we decided to ask around, gather this

1085
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:24,719
information. We thought to ourselves, it
would be really nice if this was all in

1086
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:28,239
one place right out here. What are the
rules and regulations?

1087
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:32,640
anything you want to know about fishing
right on this pier. Um, and so we

1088
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:38,239
created peercasts. We had questions and
the answers were scattered and

1089
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:42,080
disorganized and not pretty to look at.
So we took, no offense to the South

1090
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:46,560
Carolina Department of Natural
Resources, but we took the information

1091
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:51,280
that's scattered throughout their
website and we put it into one beautiful

1092
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:56,000
mobile web app.
So, not only that, but we tell you if

1093
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:59,600
the tide is rising or falling, what your
bite score is, the likelihood of you

1094
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:05,040
able to catch fish that day based on the
weather, the tide, and what kind of bait

1095
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:09,920
and lure you're using. Um, there's games
on there if you get bored. Kids can play

1096
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,960
or give their parents fish. Uh, but what
we did is we took three sets of

1097
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,239
information, all these ads that were
popping up, and we put it into one place

1098
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,239
where it's delivered and it's not
cumbersome.

1099
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:26,400
And what we discovered is anywhere we
go, this applies to absolutely anywhere.

1100
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,920
Visitors spend more time searching for
information than enjoying where they

1101
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:34,159
are. I hate trying to look for parking.
Four children, my wife, one of them

1102
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:37,120
super young, she's screaming like crazy
in the back seat, driving all over the

1103
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,080
place trying to find parking, trying to
find public restrooms. I can't stand it.

1104
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,360
And then when I get out of the car, I
want to go to happy hour with my wife.

1105
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:46,400
That's something that we like to enjoy
together. And I want to know where the

1106
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:52,159
closest one is. It would be nice to have
that all in one place.

1107
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:57,760
And so we're proposing
a plaque,

1108
01:21:54,080 --> 01:22:01,120
a 60 by30 plaque where you can scan and
you can have every bit of information

1109
01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:05,600
you possibly want to know about the
counter surfer site.

1110
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:10,639
It would look something similar to what
you see here. We can design and create

1111
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:13,760
absolutely anything that we want. So if
uh if there's another design that you

1112
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:17,520
all would prefer, this is something we
can go in a different direction. I

1113
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:20,960
personally like this one. The benefits
of placard for the visitors is of course

1114
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:25,760
less searching or exploring uh better
first impressions of the city. It feels

1115
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:30,719
like you're more engaged. Uh easier
navigation and it's always current.

1116
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:34,480
Really important part of it. Uh benefits
for businesses. They can list and update

1117
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,159
their happy hour whenever they want to.
They have full access to an admin

1118
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,360
backend dashboard for this that will
allow them to update this data so that

1119
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:46,480
we don't have to go back and forth with
communication. Very simple for them. Um,

1120
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,440
they can also listen all live music and
the biggest one for me is seasonal

1121
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:54,880
promotions without replacing signs or
printing new materials ever. It's just

1122
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:58,800
on this one scan.
Uh, benefits for the town for you guys.

1123
01:22:56,719 --> 01:23:02,719
This is extremely important. You get all
the analytics, all the metrics. You get

1124
01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:06,880
to see how people navigate your town,
what they're most interested in, what

1125
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:11,120
are people clicking on the most, uh, the
most used businesses. This is extremely

1126
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:14,639
valuable information and you can use it
however you like.

1127
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,719
You also get to see peak visitation days
and times. So, not only is this a

1128
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:23,120
service for the guests experience or
visitors coming to your town, but it's a

1129
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:27,280
service for you as well. This slide is
going to look different than the one you

1130
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:32,480
see in your packet. I do apologize. Um,
uh, Valadis switched their name to 21

1131
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:38,239
Arrows. Same company, same concept,
change of name. 21 Arrows is a strategy

1132
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:43,120
and technology firm. They use or they
create custom software digital

1133
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:46,960
experiences uh and they track growth and
a lot of this is is based on and

1134
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:51,760
predicated on automation. It's very
important that we automate this to make

1135
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:57,040
it easy for everybody.
The proposal is I would like to see peer

1136
01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:02,480
peer cast on your peers.
Um I would also like to see placard in

1137
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:05,679
your town and that's a goal of mine as
someone who just likes to create and

1138
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:11,199
solve problems. This is something that I
enjoy doing. and uh I just would like to

1139
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:15,440
have your permission to pursue that.
>> So, thank you very much.

1140
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:19,520
» All right. Thank you, sir. Are there uh
any questions for uh

1141
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,880
» uh Mr. [clears throat] What? Trent, was
it?

1142
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,080
» Yeah, Robinson. I don't know why
Williams is on there, but Robinson last

1143
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,880
name. Yeah, Trent Robinson.
>> Okay, that's right.

1144
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,239
» All right. Trent Robinson. Thank you for
correcting that.

1145
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:33,840
» No problem.
>> Or uh Mrs. Maul if you want to

1146
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:39,920
understand from the town perspective.
>> I have so Mr. Hy. Go ahead. Oh, cost

1147
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:44,560
» cost absolutely. Uh, so we have multiple
quotes for signs, but right now um if we

1148
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:48,159
buy three signs, we're we source from
Seabboard Signs because we noticed that

1149
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,639
Seabboard Signs was used for some of the
signs that are already on the pier. So,

1150
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:56,080
we wanted to go with the company that
you had already worked with. Seabard

1151
01:24:52,480 --> 01:25:01,440
Signs quoted us one um sign plaque at
$8,000 and then if we do three and we

1152
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:07,600
place those throughout multiple areas of
the town it would be um $6,000 per sign

1153
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,880
» for the digital right per placard.
>> No.

1154
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,120
» Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Sorry.
>> Not the one.

1155
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:16,560
» Not the Yes. Exactly.
>> The sign you showed us with the

1156
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,639
» right the big signs. My apologies.
>> 6,000 a piece.

1157
01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:23,679
» Yes.
>> Wow. That seems kind of steep. They are

1158
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:28,239
illuminated signs and they are auto
powered so there's no need to run

1159
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:33,199
electricity to them.
>> That's a really important note to Yeah.

1160
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:36,880
» U how long has your company been
operating?

1161
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:40,800
» So we've been operating Piercast for
five months and the amount of data that

1162
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:45,679
we've collected in that amount of time
is pretty astonishing. We're on two

1163
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:50,080
peers right now currently with live um
plaques on the peers. 12 total plaques

1164
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:55,520
between
uh 14 um pier 14 and second app pier

1165
01:25:53,520 --> 01:26:00,320
those are the two we're on right now uh
we have gathered over 5,000 QR scans in

1166
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:04,239
the past four months and that number
continues to rise we we've also had a

1167
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:07,360
really interesting metric was people
were visiting the site even after

1168
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:12,960
scanning so they would go back to it
again so we've had a total of 14,000

1169
01:26:09,679 --> 01:26:17,520
website visits just from peer scans
>> so you're new and you're growing but

1170
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:21,760
you're highly utilized so far
>> correct Um,

1171
01:26:20,239 --> 01:26:26,800
some of the things you heard tonight,
could we somehow have another section

1172
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,639
for golf carts and explain seat belts?
>> You can have absolutely anything you

1173
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,000
want.
>> And on beach rules, we can have rip tide

1174
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,440
safety.
>> It's unlimited.

1175
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,120
» Okay.
>> Yeah. Anything you can think of. Tell me

1176
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:41,360
and I want to make it for you. That's
how excited I am to do this. The guys

1177
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:46,960
behind uh 21 Arrows are It's
astonishing. So if we buy these signs,

1178
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:50,000
these three signs,000,
then what's the cost after?

1179
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:54,800
» That's what I'm sorry about that. Glad I
asked. So a monthly retainer to maintain

1180
01:26:52,960 --> 01:27:01,040
those and to go back and forth with the
businesses is going to cost us $1,000 a

1181
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:04,639
month. And then to build out the mobile
web app and put the design and all the

1182
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:11,199
information and gather the geoloccation
together is $12,000

1183
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:14,960
» in addition to the 18 and the 10,00.
>> Correct. So the 18 is for the signs, the

1184
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:18,400
12,000's for the mobile web app, and
then $1,000 per month for maintenance

1185
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:22,239
and and upkeep.
>> Is there any way we can recoup any of

1186
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:25,040
that and the businesses that use it?
>> Absolutely. T we were talking about

1187
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,159
this. Okay.
>> Actually, T probably take this part for

1188
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:32,960
a second.
>> Before you go on, I I missed something

1189
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:38,080
here. This is a discussion item and we
are allowed to make motions. It is not a

1190
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:41,760
business item, so we're not scheduling a
vote, but we can make motions here.

1191
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,679
Wanted to clarify that. Sorry. Go ahead
and proceed.

1192
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,440
» Um, yes. So, with the business uh
committee's uh permission, I want to

1193
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:56,239
pitch this to the business committee
first. Um, and then my idea is to charge

1194
01:27:53,120 --> 01:28:01,840
the businesses monthly fees. So, we're
basically the upfront money that gets it

1195
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:08,080
all in motion and then they have their
monthly fees that they are going to pay

1196
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:12,239
us to be a part of that. As far as the
details right now, I'm just giving you

1197
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:18,960
very top line. Of course, I would have
that conversation. But it's sort of like

1198
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:22,320
Google, like if you want to be the first
restaurant that pops up or the first

1199
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,800
happy hour, that's where I would charge
the money and then you would go down

1200
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:31,600
through tears. So that's the concept.
Again, just right off the top of my head

1201
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:35,120
there from I haven't spoken to the
businesses yet, just sitting there.

1202
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:38,239
» So, so basically this is just
anformational Hi.

1203
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,719
» Yeah. Talk to your microphone.
>> Yes. Hi, microphone. Um, so this is just

1204
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:46,639
anformational
um presentation and your next step is to

1205
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,280
take this to the business committee. Is
that correct?

1206
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:53,760
» Correct. If you guys really love this
and think it's a good idea as I do um

1207
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:57,040
then I will definitely take it and go
from there.

1208
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:00,960
» Okay.
>> Mr. Mayor, you you done m I'm done.

1209
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,000
Okay.
>> Just quick. So the the 12,000 to build

1210
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:07,840
the data. Yes. Is that a onetime fee or
is that going to be an ongoing annual

1211
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,360
fee?
>> That's a onetime fee.

1212
01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:11,760
» Onetime fee.
>> Correct.

1213
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:15,600
» Any anything else from on an annual
basis that we would be paying or is this

1214
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:21,199
all just upfront pretty much cost?
>> $12,000 upfront, $18,000 for the signs

1215
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:23,280
if you choose three and then $1,000 a
month for maintenance for the site and

1216
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:27,679
communication.
>> Okay. So that would be the that So

1217
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:31,360
12,000 a year.
>> Oh, correct. Yes. So that would be an

1218
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:36,080
annual office. Okay.
>> And in terms of how the information gets

1219
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:40,239
updated, um guess that's kind of on the
the business to make sure that you have

1220
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,480
the information that they want to get
out on and [clears throat] available to

1221
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:49,440
folks.
>> Yes. So that's our responsibility. Yeah.

1222
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:53,520
» Um I got a couple questions there. Three
signs and that's probably more for you.

1223
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:58,719
Where do they go?
>> So the first sign of course is at the

1224
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:03,600
pier. Um, I think that's really vital.
Second sign, Memorial Park. Third sign,

1225
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:07,520
Harrison Park. It's the center of
gravity of our town. So, those parks

1226
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:11,760
there would make the most sense to me to
have them there.

1227
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:15,679
» Okay. And 30 by 60. Where does that come
from? That size.

1228
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:19,600
» Uh, I just figured uh I kind of took
measurements and put it up against my uh

1229
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:22,639
my wall and measured my height and size
and what I'd like to walk up to and what

1230
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:26,239
would present itself. At the end of the
day, this is going to draw people to the

1231
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,760
sign. We want it to be attractive. We
want it to be beautiful and we want it

1232
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:34,719
to stand out. The more foot traffic, the
more scans, the more data and uh and the

1233
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:38,800
more information we can consume from it.
>> So I I get the point of standing out and

1234
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:45,600
of course larger stands out better, but
the peers kind of tight in places and so

1235
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:49,280
forth. So and and
yes, it's anformational sign, but you

1236
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:52,960
don't want too many signs around. Would
it be a little smaller?

1237
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:56,960
» Absolutely. But this is entirely
different. Right. Okay.

1238
01:30:54,560 --> 01:31:02,080
» I I I mean I will do whatever you guys
want, but if from a tourist or visitor

1239
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:06,400
standpoint or community standpoint,
you've got to have scale to make it

1240
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:10,719
beautiful. You've got to attract them to
that. So to me, that's the right size

1241
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,639
when we spoke about it.
>> Okay.

1242
01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:17,199
» But you guys decide.
>> Yeah. I I'm not saying I have any

1243
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:20,239
insight to it. I just, you know, I just
don't want too large. But of course, I

1244
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:26,960
don't It does no good if it just people
walk by. So I get that. I don't know

1245
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:34,000
what the magic number is right anybody.
>> Yeah, I'm not getting why $6,000 sign

1246
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:37,840
people digital sign. I don't understand.
>> It's not a digital sign. Are you just

1247
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:41,199
asking why it cost $6,000?
>> Yeah.

1248
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:45,600
» Um, so this also includes the base of
the sign. This is a weatherproof sign.

1249
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:49,760
It's a high quality, very nice sign that
should last a very, very long time. Um,

1250
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:53,840
this is not some cheap thrown together
plastic. It's steel framing. It's

1251
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:56,800
beautiful. Um, and we use premium
products and it is heavily illuminated.

1252
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:01,679
So, it's going to withstand all the
weather that you can throw at it. Uh, so

1253
01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:06,239
so yes, it's it it is a pricey sign, but
it is um beautiful. I think an

1254
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:09,280
investment into a quality sign is a good
idea.

1255
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:12,719
» Um, I think it's a great idea. It's just
that

1256
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:17,199
I'm not sure why we're calling it peer
village because it's for the whole town,

1257
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:21,120
right? It's not just for the pier area,
right? I hate that all the, you know,

1258
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,000
you see a sign that says Pier Village,
you think it's only restaurants in the

1259
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:27,199
Pier Village.
>> Yeah. And that was for the mockup. So

1260
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:31,360
yeah,
>> I'm just throwing it out there. I'd

1261
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:34,159
rather have sides, you know, because we
have great restaurants throughout the

1262
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:40,800
whole place, right?
>> And in my opinion, Beer Village gets a

1263
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:44,480
lot of attention. We need to expand the
whole town. We have great restaurants.

1264
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:47,679
We will this be retail stores, too.
They're going to be there.

1265
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:50,159
» Everything. And I love the idea that
you're saying is to accelerate

1266
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,280
throughout the town. I want to benefit
the town as much as possible. So

1267
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:58,480
anywhere we can put it and however you
want it to be, we can make that for you.

1268
01:32:55,520 --> 01:33:02,960
» And honestly, I don't want to spend more
$6,000. [laughter]

1269
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:06,639
If you had a big uh the bigger parking
lots, too. You come down for the beach,

1270
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:11,920
you don't even think about having dinner
here. You you point your phone at it.

1271
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,040
» Hey, Mil,
>> let's go to let's go to dinner tonight.

1272
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,120
There's a restaurant [laughter] over
there,

1273
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:21,760
» right?
>> If I if I may, uh, one other thing that

1274
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:26,080
we're working on right now is the
ability to people be able to see how

1275
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:29,440
many parking spots are open in the
parking lot before they even leave their

1276
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,159
house. And this is a tech that we're
kind of working on in the back end

1277
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:36,239
because you see how much of a hectic
headache it can be throughout, you know,

1278
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:43,440
all the beaches. And I I believe one of
the pictures has it that it's a little

1279
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:47,840
tiny sign that it's on a possibly in a
restaurant or something. I don't know.

1280
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:52,400
» That's a short-term rental. Yep. That's
Yeah, that's so when you Yeah. When you

1281
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:55,040
walk into a little Airbnb, it's a little
one,

1282
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:58,719
» right? You don't Maybe you can throw
them into restaurants. Correct.

1283
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:02,000
» Just so you you'll know what's going on
in the town where you you know later on

1284
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:06,080
and stuff.
>> Yes, sir. I I love the idea and I really

1285
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:10,719
like the idea that the businesses are
going to help pay for this

1286
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:14,880
» because not just the town residents um
the people who actually going to benefit

1287
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:17,600
from getting more business and you know
you might have a little restaurant it's

1288
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:21,199
not doing well. It's great. It's a great
place but no one knows about it.

1289
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:24,719
» Yeah. this way they'll find out about it
and hopefully they'll they'll

1290
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:27,280
» I'm glad to see the vision. Thank you.
>> It's a great idea.

1291
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:31,440
» Thank you,
>> Mr. Mayor. Mr. W.

1292
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,800
» Yeah,
>> um

1293
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:40,000
so by the way, I like the concept you
and we got a preliminary look at it and

1294
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:45,280
I like the placements because it was
important to me also to let's not just

1295
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:49,760
focus down there,
>> but okay. So, I did scan your QR. And by

1296
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,800
the way, really cool.
>> Thank you.

1297
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:55,760
» Okay. And Surfside Pier's, by the way,
already on there.

1298
01:34:53,520 --> 01:35:02,159
» Yes, it autoopulates location.
>> So, but there's a open button on here

1299
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:06,480
» in out in the ocean beside my pier.
There's a There's an open. What What

1300
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:11,760
What would it do if I hit it? It doesn't
do anything currently, but what would it

1301
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:15,840
What would that do if we came on board
with you all? Would that take you to my

1302
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:18,080
web our town website?
>> Correct. So that's a placeholder for

1303
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,760
town website.
>> Okay. Yes,

1304
01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:23,520
» that's what I want.
>> And it tells you all the data that you

1305
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:27,440
would like to know about the town and
>> anything we wanted to load in there,

1306
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:30,000
right? The beach rules, the whatever it
could be.

1307
01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:32,159
» Also, uh, sorry to interrupt. Ad
placement is huge on this.

1308
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:35,520
» Yeah.
>> Um, not the nasty Google ads with that

1309
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:39,199
little teeny X that you have to figure
out how to hit and get off your screen.

1310
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,719
We don't we don't do that. Um,
>> okay. We run ads that are beautiful and

1311
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:44,960
they're integrated into the mobile web
app. So it looks like you're actually

1312
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,880
scrolling to something that you're
excited.

1313
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,040
» Yeah.
>> And and by the way, this this

1314
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:54,000
information I'm not a fisherman, but if
I were, I mean, you've got it all.

1315
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,800
» Thank you.
>> Right here.

1316
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:58,560
» Everything they need to know to catch
fish.

1317
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:02,756
» Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
>> Yeah.

1318
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:04,776
» Thank you.
>> [clears throat]

1319
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:12,159
» Well, anybody else want to do a Okay,
Mr. I go take a

1320
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:14,159
» I want I want to make a motion.
>> Okay, that's what I was going to do.

1321
01:36:13,891 --> 01:36:19,280
[clears throat]
>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the

1322
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:25,520
placard concept for further development
with an emphasis on recapturing

1323
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:31,360
investment income and ongoing costs and
perhaps lower sign costs. Right there,

1324
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:35,520
» I'll second it.
Uh, is there any discussion on the

1325
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:41,199
motion?
>> Yeah, I I have reservation about making

1326
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:43,440
a vote on it right now. I'd rather see
line by line how much really going to

1327
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,880
cost.
>> Well, I think he's I think Judge's

1328
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:51,440
motion is to pursue that.
>> Okay.

1329
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:57,520
» Let me re I'll repeat it for you. um
approved the placard concept for further

1330
01:36:54,320 --> 01:37:03,360
development with an emphasis on re
capturing investment income ongoing

1331
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:06,080
costs and perhaps lower sign costs.
>> Okay,

1332
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:11,920
» Mr. Mor.
>> Uh, Miss Shaw,

1333
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:18,800
» this is going to
the business committee, correct?

1334
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:23,760
» Do we need to add that in the
>> We're making a motion for her to do her

1335
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:25,199
job. Basically, [laughter] how she wants
to do it.

1336
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:29,280
» How she wants to do.
>> We're saying please continue. Okay.

1337
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:33,280
» Yes. And and yeah, you can talk to
whomever you want.

1338
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:39,199
» Mr. Ryer, if I could. So, what we're
asking you basically to do is put a put

1339
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:45,440
some meat together and present a
decision paper for us to look at and

1340
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:47,920
vote on. Okay, that's Thank you.
>> You're welcome.

1341
01:37:47,557 --> 01:37:52,400
[clears throat]
>> Any others?

1342
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:56,320
I I am not going to repeat that motion.
If we need it if we need it repeated,

1343
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:59,920
Mr. Hyatt has it written down. I saw
that. Do does anybody need to hear it

1344
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:02,560
again?
All right. [clears throat] In that case,

1345
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:05,280
Miss Medina, will you call the role?
>> Mr. St.

1346
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,800
» Yes.
>> Mr. Coleman,

1347
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:08,560
» yes.
>> Mr. Walls,

1348
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,920
» yes.
>> Mr. Lawren,

1349
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,520
» yes.
>> Mr. Hyatt,

1350
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:13,600
» yes.
>> Miss Valent,

1351
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:18,800
» yes.
>> Yes. Motion carries unanimously and uh

1352
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:22,159
Miss Small is directed to
>> pursue this.

1353
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:25,119
» Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr.
Robinson.

1354
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:28,560
» Thank you, sir.
>> All right. [clears throat] Um we are now

1355
01:38:26,639 --> 01:38:33,520
moving into our first business item, the
strategic payment services. Uh director

1356
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:36,560
grouper is going to uh introduce uh Miss
Elliot.

1357
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:40,880
» Uh Mr. Mayor, unfortunately at the last
minute she is unable to attend, but she

1358
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:44,639
will be here for the September 8th.
>> Okay. So we have to remove that item. Um

1359
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,560
» yes,
>> we don't have to officially vote since

1360
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:52,159
she's not here, I assume. Okay.
>> All right. Well, thank you for letting

1361
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,440
us know. And uh too bad that didn't work
out.

1362
01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:58,159
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. So, we're going to move into

1363
01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:02,000
uh item 8B, a memorandum of agreement.
Uh well, I'm just going to ask for a

1364
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:06,080
motion on this.
>> Mr. Mayor, Mr. Laworn, make a motion to

1365
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:12,320
approve a memorandum agreement with the
South Carolina Department of Juvenile

1366
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:16,719
Justice for fiscal year 2026 to 2027.
>> Second.

1367
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:19,119
» You got one of them seconds. Okay. Um
All right. Chief Mickel, you run through

1368
01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:23,280
this.
>> Yeah. Uh this is just a renewal of an

1369
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:28,080
agreement we have with them. an annual
agreement every year. It's just uh an

1370
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:32,719
agreement that if we uh take a juvenile
into custody and need that we transport

1371
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:37,360
Columbia detention what their
responsibilities are, what ours are in

1372
01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:41,520
the schedule fees.
Um we didn't even use them once last

1373
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:48,800
year and the year before that. I think
we brought one to spend a total of $75,

1374
01:39:46,719 --> 01:39:55,840
but their fees did go up this last year.
So, um you're looking at above $175 a

1375
01:39:52,800 --> 01:40:03,040
day if we
arrest the juvenity

1376
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:07,760
of juvenile um charges are through a
summon where we just we issue them a

1377
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:12,480
summon to family court and release it to
a parent.

1378
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:17,760
It has to be a pretty
serious crime for us to take that you

1379
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:23,920
know
for us to actually take some as larger

1380
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:30,159
do
we have to have

1381
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:33,920
we have to be able to transport
agreement that's

1382
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:37,440
» so yeah so that actually I'll get it
started right we don't really have any

1383
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:41,199
choice we have to do this
>> non-negot negotiable [laughter]

1384
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:47,040
costs are in there.
>> We wouldn't be able.

1385
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,119
» So, we're going to vote and but I mean
we can see the writing on the law I

1386
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:52,159
think.
>> Anybody have any real questions?

1387
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:57,199
» Yeah, Mr.
>> Real questions. I don't know about

1388
01:40:53,840 --> 01:41:00,159
» Well, I mean we have to vote on this.
But go ahead.

1389
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:03,040
» But just I just wanted to clarify we we
use Greenville.

1390
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:07,679
» Is that where we would
>> No. So DJJ has a facility in Colombia.

1391
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:11,840
If they don't if they run out of space,
the only other facility that's uh we

1392
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,560
sustain cartier is Greenville and they
may take where we bring there and take

1393
01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:16,880
them to Greenville.
>> Oh, but so we

1394
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:21,360
» we would never take them to Greenville.
They have to go to DJ first and they

1395
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:23,520
decide where that is.
>> Just thanks [clears throat] for

1396
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:28,480
clarifying,
>> Mr. I grew up in counties that had their

1397
01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:32,000
own juvenile homes. I've never seen a
state that has one that we got to drive

1398
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,800
a day and a half [clears throat] to get
there and back. Is that really what

1399
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:38,320
happens here?
>> Yeah. of the only facility that's um

1400
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:41,199
» wow
>> licensed to do this kind of

1401
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,199
» and then I read in here that they won't
take 17 year olds. What do we do with

1402
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:49,840
them?
>> Uh that's not um they they would go to

1403
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:52,560
be charged as an adult and go to uh
>> so is 17 the age of majority in South

1404
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:57,040
Carolina.
>> Uh I think it depends on the crime and

1405
01:41:54,239 --> 01:42:01,159
how the the uh solicitor's office
decides to charge the person.

1406
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:06,199
» Wow.

1407
01:42:06,285 --> 01:42:12,480
» [clears throat]
>> says they will not be admitted. Oh,

1408
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:18,719
» I'm sorry. It says if not be admitted
>> if charged as an adult. Okay, I got it.

1409
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:23,119
All right. Thank you.
>> Anything else?

1410
01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:26,800
» All right. Then the uh motion is simply
to approve this memorandum of agreement.

1411
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:28,159
Miss Medina, will you call the role?
>> Mr. Sty,

1412
01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:29,679
» yes.
>> Mr. Coleman,

1413
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:30,880
» yes.
>> Mr. Walls,

1414
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,080
» yes.
>> Mr. Longman,

1415
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,159
» yes.
>> Mr.

1416
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:37,600
» Yes.
Yes, fair.

1417
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:42,880
» Yes. Motion carries unanimously and the
memorandum of agreement is approved.

1418
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:46,880
We'll now move on to uh first resolution
and I need a motion for that.

1419
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:50,800
» Mr. Mayor, Mr. Lawren,
>> make a motion to approve resolution

1420
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:59,119
26-0224,
acceptance of donation from Eugene Reed.

1421
01:42:55,360 --> 01:43:05,199
» I'll second it. Okay. You get one of us.
>> Um Mr. Vincent, you want to just tell us

1422
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:08,719
very quickly? Yes. Uh so uh last meeting
we had we did a proclamation from Mr.

1423
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:12,920
Reed and so then now this is a
resolution to accept the funds.

1424
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:20,400
» Any questions, comments?
Okay. So the motion on the table is to

1425
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,080
accept the donation. Miss Medina, will
you call the roll?

1426
01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:23,840
» Mr. Savior?
>> Yes.

1427
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,199
» Mr. Coleman?
>> Yes.

1428
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,639
» Mr. Walls?
>> Yes.

1429
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:27,760
» Yes.
>> Mr. H?

1430
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:29,679
» Yes.
>> Miss?

1431
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:33,280
» Yes.
>> Yes. Motion carries unanimously. The

1432
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:39,600
donation is accepted. Our next
resolution is uh about KSDB. I need a

1433
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:43,119
motion. I'll keep it going.
>> Good job.

1434
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:47,840
» Make a res a motion to approve
resolution 26-0225

1435
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:53,920
of sec acceptance of donation to keep
Surfside Beach beautiful committee from

1436
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:58,080
Jane Burie Morgan.
>> Say that right.

1437
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:02,480
» Uh Mr. Vincent, you want to tell us
what's going on here? I got this from

1438
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:07,520
the finance department. So, this is a
generous donation from Jane Morgan to

1439
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:10,960
the KSBB for $300.
>> All right. Uh, Miss Morgan is here. Do

1440
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:15,920
you just want to tell us uh what you're
doing? Come on up.

1441
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:21,360
» Why are you being so nice? [laughter]
>> You know, I love surf this best big

1442
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:25,280
little town or whatever. You know, I do
four parties a year and I have been

1443
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:29,199
lucky in my life. And so, I pick a
charity at each party. I try to give to

1444
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:35,280
all the guests who want to [laughter]
contribute you know5 $10 whatever. I

1445
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:39,679
always always start it with my 100 and
um I think the first one was veterans in

1446
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:44,239
honor of my dad World War II veteran and
then the food bank here always pick

1447
01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:46,800
things in search uh choice for Todd at
Christmas I'm glad to say they had to

1448
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:51,347
come out to the house four times to
bring the big boxes. I did invite 300

1449
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:54,320
people to celebrate my birthday though
[laughter]

1450
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:57,679
and then uh Surfside Beach Cleanup which
I always knew I'd do. trying to get

1451
01:44:55,760 --> 01:45:01,840
Missouri summertime and then I just did
the humane society and based on

1452
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:05,600
listening to needing a firehouse that
they practice in I'm thinking my next

1453
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:08,960
one needs to be [laughter]
>> I was sure she would

1454
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:13,199
» I know I tried I was hoping he'd still
be here when I anyway so it's just I

1455
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:17,880
love the sound
>> thank you very much thank you and uh

1456
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:27,840
and we have KBB here would you uh come
up and tell us what you plan to do with

1457
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:30,800
this?
>> What can y'all do?

1458
01:45:28,719 --> 01:45:36,719
» Miss Miss Laworn loves public speaking,
so [laughter] this advance

1459
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:42,639
we're going to invest in a tent with our
um brand on it with KSB like the police

1460
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:45,440
have in fire department.
>> As you see, we you're at every event, I

1461
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,440
think. So,
>> yes, we're at every

1462
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,400
» All right.
>> Oh my.

1463
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:52,918
» I was told that we can't ask her any
questions.

1464
01:45:51,679 --> 01:45:57,960
» Thank you.
[laughter]

1465
01:45:54,239 --> 01:45:57,960
Don't even try, Mr.

1466
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:05,360
» Anything else?
>> No.

1467
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:08,639
» Thank you very much.
>> Oh, wait. We got to vote first.

1468
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:12,480
» Oh, yeah. Go ahead.
>> Yeah, we haven't we haven't.

1469
01:46:11,913 --> 01:46:17,679
[laughter]
>> Well, need to double it.

1470
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:21,520
» She has somebody here that
>> I ain't asking her any questions.

1471
01:46:19,773 --> 01:46:25,760
[laughter]
We realize the writing on the wall.

1472
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:30,480
» Let's vote and then we'll take some
pictures. Okay. So, the the motion on

1473
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:34,639
the table is to accept this donation
from Miss Morgan for the KSPB uh branded

1474
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,280
T.
>> Mr. Sty.

1475
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,880
» Yes. With a thanks
>> Mr. Co.

1476
01:46:38,239 --> 01:46:40,400
» Yes.
>> Mr. Walls.

1477
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,760
» Yes.
>> Mr. Wahurn.

1478
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,679
» Yes.
>> Mr. Hyatt.

1479
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,840
» Yes.
>> Miss Fallon.

1480
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,480
» Of course. Yes.
>> American.

1481
01:46:46,719 --> 01:46:52,280
» And yes. Motion carries unanimously.
Your donation is accepted.

1482
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:06,239
» I might remind I'm in the hotel business
and this equipment and cars don't want I

1483
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:11,600
can help that way. But a lot of
equipment costs [laughter] and stuff

1484
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:11,600
like that is what I do.

1485
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:21,639
I can't see you. There you go.

1486
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:30,840
» You guys are
supposed to take

1487
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,840
» Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1488
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:35,480
» All right. Thank you very much.

1489
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,719
» All right. We have another resolution
for public works director. Can I get a

1490
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:47,440
motion there?
>> Sure, why not? Um, we make a motion to

1491
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:51,679
approve resolution 26-0226,
reappoint of public works director to

1492
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:57,360
the technical advisory committee for the
2627 revision of the Ory County Solid

1493
01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:59,600
Waste Plan.
>> Director, you want to tell us what's

1494
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:04,639
going on here?
>> Absolutely. Thank you again. Um the Ory

1495
01:48:02,719 --> 01:48:07,840
County Solid Waste Authority uh is
subject to the rules of the South

1496
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:13,360
Carolina Solid Waste Policy and
Management Act of 1991. Uh they required

1497
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:17,520
every few years, used to be three years,
we made it five now to update their uh

1498
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:21,280
solid waste management plan for the
county that we it's almost like a plan

1499
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:25,280
for solid waste for the county. You talk
about population trends, recycling

1500
01:48:23,679 --> 01:48:29,920
trends, and things we can do to make
them better in all of our communities.

1501
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:35,840
and uh I've been on the committee this
my fourth round uh with them and uh we

1502
01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:40,880
need a council resolution to appoint me
as town's representative back onto the

1503
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:44,800
committee technical advisory committee.
So you just looking for extra things to

1504
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:50,239
do in your spare time, right?
>> I think. Yeah, they they asked me and so

1505
01:48:47,679 --> 01:48:54,880
I can't say no. They're all good to me.
>> All right, mayor. I go ahead.

1506
01:48:52,800 --> 01:49:01,040
» Yeah, please. I just I just wanted this
is kind of a really critical time, isn't

1507
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:05,600
it? I mean, they're looking at expanding
>> the the fill

1508
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:10,800
of the landfill. Yeah.
>> Hugely expand it uh for through the

1509
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,880
year, whatever. But I mean, we've heard
all

1510
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:16,960
» trying to get the 2050 out of the
current landfill.

1511
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:20,000
» And you're uh so you being part of that.
>> Yeah, like I said, this is my fourth

1512
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:24,000
round going with this. We've been doing
it for a while and and landfill space is

1513
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:27,679
eventually going to run out in the
county and the garbage is going to have

1514
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:33,360
to be shipped out of state more than
likely unless they permit more class two

1515
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:37,040
and three landfills. So, it's a real you
try to buy years. You try to buy some

1516
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:42,480
years and expand as much as you can.
Come up with ways to reduce the waist

1517
01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:46,960
stream, increase recycling, uh, limit
the amount of material that goes in

1518
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:51,520
there. This is why we're so focused on
recycling as a as a town. We have been

1519
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:55,440
for a long time. I started a beach
recycling program. When I started

1520
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:59,360
working here, I started the e-waste and
household hazards wasters program. Keep

1521
01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:04,400
all this material out of the landfill.
We everything is separated out. Uh and

1522
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:07,760
uh not everybody does as much as
Surfside does. We're actually very

1523
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:11,760
recognized throughout the state for what
we do with recycling. Uh but it's going

1524
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:17,679
to come, you know, the it's going to
come to pass some someday that the the

1525
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:21,520
price per ton is going to go through the
roof when they run out of landfill

1526
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:26,239
space. So all these strategies have to
be explored and written down and that

1527
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:29,440
enables the authority to qualify for
state uh grants and things like that

1528
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:32,159
that they get from the state. You have
to have a management plan just like our

1529
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:36,800
comp plan.
>> Well, I will say that I I'll speak on

1530
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:43,760
behalf and I know the mayor can speak to
this. Anybody that's ever attended some

1531
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:48,480
of these local grandstand
league of cities, things that we attend

1532
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:54,159
on behalf of the town, they all speak
very highly of you. And you are you have

1533
01:50:51,760 --> 01:51:00,000
set trends for this. We're doing more
than municipalities with 10 times our

1534
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,480
money. You're doing a great job.
>> Thank you.

1535
01:51:00,639 --> 01:51:07,520
» Yeah. Everybody respects you and speaks
very highly of you.

1536
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:09,520
» Your your cohorts in crime up and down
the strand.

1537
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:14,960
» Don't make him cry.
>> No. No. It's It's true. His involvement

1538
01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:16,800
with this has been great. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I appreciate that.

1539
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:22,400
» Thank you,
>> Mr. Mayor. Uh Mr. Co, you think they'll

1540
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:26,719
have a recycling in this county like
we're doing?

1541
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:30,880
» Oh, county. Why? Well, it's it's it's
all about the dollars. You know, the or

1542
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:36,320
county solid waste authority does not
pick up trash. They don't have uh they

1543
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:40,320
won't pick up. They rely on everybody to
contract it out like in the county or

1544
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:44,080
garden city, let's say. Everybody has
these private haulers that they get and

1545
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:47,599
they if they have to pay extra if they
want recycling, they'll provide it. They

1546
01:51:46,239 --> 01:51:51,280
want extra, but they're charging $30
something dollars for one can. So, a lot

1547
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:56,239
of people aren't going to want to do it.
>> So, the county has the convenience

1548
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:59,679
center. Well, the private places charge
how much for a can of dog?

1549
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:02,880
» In the 30s? Mid30s?
>> In the 30s.

1550
01:52:00,480 --> 01:52:04,719
» Just forget about yard. Forget about
>> They don't get yard waste.

1551
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,040
» Both.
>> They don't get

1552
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:09,760
» recycle.
>> They don't get concrete. They don't get

1553
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,239
» just one can a week.
>> Just one can a week. They're paying 30

1554
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:14,480
something.
>> $35. Yeah.

1555
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:18,880
» How much we paying again?
>> I think we just went to 26.

1556
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:21,199
» 26.
>> Yes. That's everything [laughter]

1557
01:52:20,719 --> 01:52:27,199
you put.
>> That's four times a week. Come here. Any

1558
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:29,280
just one goodbye?
>> Thank you.

1559
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:34,159
» Thank you.
>> All right. Any others? All right. The

1560
01:52:31,679 --> 01:52:39,520
motion on the table is to reappoint uh
director Adair to the uh technical

1561
01:52:37,679 --> 01:52:43,760
advisory committee for the Ory County
Solid Waste Management Plan. Madina,

1562
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,199
will you call the RO?
>> Mr. Sty,

1563
01:52:44,719 --> 01:52:46,560
» yes.
>> Mr. Coleman,

1564
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,760
» yes.
>> Mr. Walls,

1565
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,040
» yes.
>> Mr. Lawren,

1566
01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:50,320
» yes.
>> Mr. Hyatt,

1567
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,480
» yes.
>> Miss Fallon,

1568
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:54,719
» yes. aircraft.
>> Yes, you are appointed.

1569
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,440
» Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

1570
01:52:56,239 --> 01:53:01,440
» We'll work for you. Yeah.
>> All right. The final item. Uh I'll take

1571
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:05,599
this because it has my name on it. A
resolution supporting completion of

1572
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:09,840
Interstate 73 and the modernization of
the interstate highway system. Uh I'm

1573
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:13,639
making a motion to approve that.
Resolution 26-0227.

1574
01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:23,040
» All right. So, um, what we have here is
a a letter came from the Myrtle Beach

1575
01:53:21,119 --> 01:53:27,440
Area Chamber of Commerce. Came to
Director Vincent just I mean

1576
01:53:24,719 --> 01:53:34,560
Administrator Vincent just uh a week or
so ago seeking approval to join uh a

1577
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:39,119
consortium of of managers throughout the
uh county and he showed it to me and I

1578
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:44,080
said I think we should run that by
council and get uh you know actually

1579
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:48,400
vote on it. So that's what we're doing.
Um, if you've been here any length of

1580
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:51,760
time at all, you know, I73 has been
discussed and debated throughout Ory

1581
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:59,360
County for I think it's close to 30
years. Um, you know, we are the largest

1582
01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:04,560
uh tourist area that is not serviced by
an interstate. If you've ever driven

1583
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:09,679
here,
>> which I think probably everybody has, uh

1584
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:15,360
it's not easy to get here. And yet we uh
we the whole Grand Strand area are doing

1585
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:21,679
great. Um this could be a huge boon to
our tourist economy. It uh could also

1586
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:30,239
help diversify our economy as you know
we're so tourist uh driven but you know

1587
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:34,960
businesses manufacturing uh uh IT
professional services they they they

1588
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:39,599
tend to want to be near interstates for
moving people and moving freight and uh

1589
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:45,440
you know we lose out on that all the
time. So, I think I73 makes perfect

1590
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:50,400
sense and all we're going to do is
support the letter that the chamber is

1591
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:56,480
sending. We're just going to add our
names to that letter if uh if this vote

1592
01:54:53,119 --> 01:54:59,520
is positive. Anybody else want to speak?
>> Mr. Mayor,

1593
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:04,719
» Mr. Hi. I'd just like to add that not
only does it benefit us in economic

1594
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:12,320
ways, but this is a high hurricane area
and this establishes another high-speed

1595
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:19,440
hopefully evacuation which I think is
badly needed on the grand strand.

1596
01:55:16,719 --> 01:55:22,639
» Any others?
All right. The motion on the table is to

1597
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,800
support this resolution. Miss Badina,
will you call the RO?

1598
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,000
» Mr. Stamy?
>> Yes.

1599
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:27,199
» Mr. Coleman?
>> Yes.

1600
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,639
» Mr. Mr. Walls,
>> yes.

1601
01:55:27,679 --> 01:55:30,000
» Mr. Wford,
>> yes.

1602
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:31,199
» Mr. Hyde,
>> yes.

1603
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,560
» Miss Fon,
>> yes.

1604
01:55:31,599 --> 01:55:35,599
» Mayor,
>> yes. Motion carries unanimously. Uh,

1605
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:40,719
since the letter was originally
addressed to Mr. Vincent, I will look

1606
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:45,679
for you to uh send the uh communication
back to the chamber. Yes, sir.

1607
01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:51,199
» With that, we're item number nine,
public comments, and it's 7:55.

1608
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:56,880
Come on up.
My name is Anushia shift at the 210 self

1609
01:55:54,159 --> 01:56:01,760
drive was a teaching moment tonight came
up that I want to pick up and talk about

1610
01:55:59,599 --> 01:56:07,520
the general came to do a presentation he
didn't have a laptop director of finance

1611
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:12,560
handed him her own personal professional
laptop the general brought a flash card

1612
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:17,920
into it know in any organization you
know he himself may not know in addition

1613
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:22,480
to that presentation what mar was there
that immediately was trans that laptop

1614
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:25,520
And that was connected to the network is
already in your network. Tomorrow

1615
01:56:23,679 --> 01:56:29,440
morning when you turn on your computers,
it's going to be on yours. If you go to

1616
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:34,239
Homeland, the Department of Homeland
Security, FBI, CIA, none of the

1617
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:38,480
equipment has the ability to log into
it. This is how things get to your

1618
01:56:36,719 --> 01:56:42,719
system. You know, that's how somebody
get into it. I'm not saying something

1619
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:46,239
happened, but I think you have to watch.
>> Wow.

1620
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:50,480
If if I were you, I would disable all
these abilities to plug in something

1621
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:53,360
something to the laptops because that's
how things get to your system. Just want

1622
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,639
to let you know.
>> Wow.

1623
01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:58,239
» Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

1624
01:56:56,239 --> 01:57:03,080
» It's a good point. We can't we can't
interface with you, but I I think

1625
01:56:59,599 --> 01:57:03,080
everybody was listening.

1626
01:57:04,639 --> 01:57:13,520
» Bill Kenan 1312 North Elwood. Y'all
talked about golf carts. My comment for

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this year is I've seen more underage
drivers, and I'm not even talking about

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14 year olds. I've seen them so damn
young they can't even reach the pedals.

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01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:27,520
They have to sit on and I tried to stop
one and the mother said, "Oh, he's

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fine."
I've learned to slap people before, but

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that was one of the big ones. [laughter]
I

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It is worse this year than I've seen.
And and the reason I see it, I walk the

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01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:44,320
dog every day. Walk them in the morning,
I walk them at night. And I'm on the

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01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:51,840
boulevard and I keep seeing them come
by. And I'm old and I know that 14 year

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01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:55,520
olds look older than they used to. But
this is ridiculous when they can't even

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touch the pedals without sitting on the
edge of much less not having a seat belt

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01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:04,080
on. I'm just talking about driving
>> and they're on the boulevard. It's

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crazy. Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir. Any other?

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01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:11,679
» Well, I I want to officially because I'm
gonna give you

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» name and address. Oh,
>> J Morgan. Um,

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01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:17,599
» even though you were speaking, what's my
address?

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:24,800
» Just give us the street.
>> Um, North Hle Drive. Um, I really am in

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01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:27,599
the wholesale equipment and car business
and so listening to the cost of

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01:58:26,239 --> 01:58:30,560
equipment. So, I want to say for
disposal or purchase anything, I can

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01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:35,360
never help. I don't know how it works
with the city in terms of rules, but

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01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:40,639
that's business I've been doing for 38
years. So, if ever I can help that way.

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01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:45,440
I'm also treasurer for two nonprofits
and some of the things I listen to on

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01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:49,360
the cyber I know a lot about because of
being treasurer of two nonprofit

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01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:53,040
organizations. Once again, if I can help
in any way, whether it's the policies

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01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:57,760
that I'm rewriting right now for one
very large organization, but I can do

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01:58:55,520 --> 01:59:01,119
anything to help. So, strictly that's
the best way to reach me if I can do

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01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:04,880
anything to help. Love
>> you. Thank you very much.

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01:59:02,639 --> 01:59:08,560
» Thank you. and not looking for a
consulting fee, just volunteering.

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01:59:06,787 --> 01:59:11,280
[laughter]
>> Yeah, we don't want to do job

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01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:16,840
interviews.
>> All right, thank you very much. Anybody

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01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,840
else?

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01:59:21,197 --> 01:59:23,217
[clears throat]

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01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:34,080
» Uh Tori Reed with uh Fifth Avenue North,
519 Fifth Avenue North. And I just

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01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:37,760
wanted to come in to say that from my
understanding [laughter]

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01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:44,880
we are getting a sidewalk on Fifth
Avenue North. And I wanted to ask how

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01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:51,360
long has this been on on the books? And
do we have any say in this because I'm

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01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:56,560
uh uh I constantly am getting I'm
picking up trash all week long when with

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01:59:54,080 --> 02:00:01,920
people walking up and down without the
sidewalk. And now we're going to bring

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01:59:58,159 --> 02:00:11,360
them even closer to our property. And
also I I'm one of uh six or seven uh

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02:00:08,239 --> 02:00:16,880
residents that have a circular driveway
that once you put a sidewalk in, it's

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02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:22,960
going I'm just going to have a a large
concrete in front of the house rather

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02:00:18,719 --> 02:00:28,800
than uh you know just a regular driveway
going in. So, I wanted to know if this

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02:00:26,239 --> 02:00:32,880
is a done deal. Also, I talked with
about 10 of my neighbors who also knew

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02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:37,280
nothing about it. So, I wanted to find
out what's that process of educating

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02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:41,199
people when you're going to have
something major as this. We we get a

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02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:46,239
letter to say there's smoke coming out
of our sewers, but we don't get any kind

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02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:52,800
of notification that we're going to have
a permanent construction uh uh in your

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02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:59,679
resident. So, I just wanted to comment
to say not very happy with the way this

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02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:05,199
this uh this project is going and wanted
to ask if there's anything we can do,

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02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:12,760
not necessarily to stop it, but maybe to
modify it somewhat. That's all I want to

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02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:12,760
say. All right. Thank you very much.

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02:01:15,119 --> 02:01:24,159
» Any any other public comment?
All right. With that, we will move into

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02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:27,679
the uh council comments. I'm going to
start with uh Mr. Hyatt.

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02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:31,040
» Yeah, I'd just like to say thanks for
the people that provided donations to

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02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:35,199
the town. Thanks to everybody that
contributed to the meeting. Thanks to

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02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:42,000
everybody that chimed in and came here
to spectate. And regarding the sidewalk

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02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:45,520
issue, um I believe that that was part
sidewalks were part of the comprehensive

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02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:50,719
plan and that's where the idea is
developed. The comprehensive plan is

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02:01:47,599 --> 02:01:56,080
visited about every five years. As far
as modifying it, um

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02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:59,520
I think the best way to do that is to
talk with your representatives and tell

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02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:04,480
us what kind of modifications you'd
want.

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» That's all I have. Thank you, sir. Mr.
Walls.

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» Yeah. [laughter] Just wanted to thank
everybody for uh for coming out tonight

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02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:17,440
and sitting in. And I'm glad so many
people love the town that they're

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02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:21,360
willing to help us. It's wonderful. Um
and I'll look forward to seeing y'all

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02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:26,719
next time. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you, sir. Um Mr. Stamp,

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02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:32,400
» I'd like to thank everybody for coming
out the sidewalk deal. Send us some

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02:02:29,599 --> 02:02:38,080
information what you think. We can talk
with John. John's heading up that

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02:02:35,599 --> 02:02:42,800
project. Uh, I don't think you'll be
able to stop it, but you might have some

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02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:48,560
input in the way the way it goes. Maybe.
Uh, I don't know that for sure, but

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02:02:46,639 --> 02:02:54,719
we'll see you in a couple weeks. We'll
be back. And if you got any problem, let

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02:02:51,840 --> 02:03:00,239
us know. Thanks.
All right. Um,

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02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:04,480
Miss Sean.
>> Oh, it's 8:00, people. I'm excited.

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02:03:03,244 --> 02:03:13,440
[laughter]
Um I appreciate um hearing that people

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02:03:08,159 --> 02:03:19,360
love our town. It is our town and um
going to get back in thing u with the

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02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:25,760
senior center. So if anybody would like
to help volunteer that we will

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02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:31,840
volunteers there. Um
but I just want to um an extra thank

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02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:40,639
you. I was so you talk about being proud
of something. I was so proud of our town

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02:03:35,679 --> 02:03:44,880
as a group of people when our K9 CIF
retired.

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02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:50,639
We had residents, the police department,
the fire department, committee members

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02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:56,400
there, council was there, our neighbors
were there, and um it tears up being it

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02:03:54,239 --> 02:04:01,199
was the end of watch, thank goodness, it
was the end of tour. and it was our

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02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:05,840
four-legged
family member that's going off to

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02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:11,199
retirement. So, I just want to appreci I
just want to say how much I appreciate

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02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:15,920
everybody participating.
Y'all have a good night. Let's get out

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02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:21,360
of here. [laughter]
>> With that introduction, Mr. Longhorn.

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02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:25,360
» Yeah. Thanks. Uh just real quick, I I
first de I just want to say we

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02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:30,159
appreciate I appreciated you having the
the sled person here. um also took

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02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:35,040
Anushia's comments to heart because
that's um it was a no no where I work

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02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:40,239
too. You you you disabled all they
weren't allowed. So um but it just goes

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02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:46,000
to show that there's a lot from a cyber
security standpoint that we don't know

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02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:49,679
here in the town and getting tapped into
the intelligence that comes out of that

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02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:54,400
that group I think is important to our
future because it's not just about

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02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:58,639
potential fraud and payments. it's about
the system getting penetrated

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02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:03,520
potentially and um and what that could
lead to. So um I just strongly encourage

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02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:08,639
that as well as the training that um is
offered out there because it is a really

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02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:14,480
big deal and threats change daily. It's
not threats aren't stable. They um I

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02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:19,440
said I I lived in that world and um it's
it's not stable. So just want to

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02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:24,960
encourage that. Um, secondly, thanks
everybody for coming and it is only

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02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:30,800
8:05, so let's get the heck out of here.
>> Mr. Co, just want to thank everybody for

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02:05:27,599 --> 02:05:37,520
coming out. I agree with Mr. Ken about
the tough parts. I've seen tons of kids,

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02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:42,560
eight, nine years old. Oh, sure they're
with their mother or father or most

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02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:47,280
likely their grandparent. Uh, I actually
witnessed an accident where the child

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02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:51,840
went around the corner, couldn't
maneuver the the the turn, smacked right

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02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:57,360
into a big bush. Thank god no one was
hurt. Father just backed the car caught

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02:05:54,080 --> 02:06:00,800
up and let the kid continue his drive.
I'm yelling and screaming out. He

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02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:07,199
couldn't care less. I don't know if it's
a right of passage here or not, but it's

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02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:11,840
not safe. It's not a toy shouldn't be
doing. has for sidewalks. And when I

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02:06:10,239 --> 02:06:15,040
first came in, I didn't have a sidewalk
in front of my house. Then I moved to

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02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:20,159
another house. I had a sidewalk. And
guess what? It was a nice addition.

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02:06:17,599 --> 02:06:23,760
Fifth Avenue North is a very very one of
the most dangerous streets we have in

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02:06:21,599 --> 02:06:27,840
this town right now. There's a lot of
traffic on it. A lot of people going

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fast. I won't I walk all over the town.
I won't walk on Fifth Avenue. No. It's

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02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:36,960
just too dangerous.
It's not going to be that big of a deal.

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02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:40,000
I know people don't want it, but maybe
they don't want. I don't know. But on

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02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:43,840
once they get it, I think they're going
to really enjoy having a firewall

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02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:48,480
because it's going to be a lot safer for
them and the people around them. Again,

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02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:52,239
thanks for coming out. That's all I got
to say.

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02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:58,079
» All right. Thank you, sir. Um I'm just
going to go on sidewalks uh for a

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02:06:54,639 --> 02:07:02,400
minute, too. Uh I I guess I don't know
if it's next meeting or the one after

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02:07:00,159 --> 02:07:06,480
that, but I mean the survey crews, I
couldn't believe it. They we authorized

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02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:12,480
the payment and they they had some
people out like the next week. I can't

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02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:16,159
believe SC DOT is that un busy, but they
they were there.

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02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:21,199
» That's
>> Oh, okay. That's who. Okay. No wonder.

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02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:26,560
All right. But, uh I I guess an update
on what's the projected plan and all

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02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:31,280
that. We talked about it briefly. um you
know when we authorize the the funds for

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02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:35,040
it, but we can just do an update for the
community, maybe talk about what the

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02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:39,360
plans are in in a little more detail,
which side of the roads they're going to

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02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:44,239
go on and so forth. Um and again, I'll
leave it to you guys when it's

1755
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:49,119
appropriate to bring that. But ideally
if there is any uh opportunity for

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02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:54,560
citizen input it would be good to uh
have that at that you know soon so that

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02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:59,520
they could put some uh make some comment
if if there is again any opportunity to

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02:07:56,639 --> 02:08:05,360
change anything. Um,
secondly, golf carts. Uh, I'm not asking

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02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:08,800
Chief Mickel to, uh, answer this at this
point, but I see a lot of them, and I

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02:08:07,599 --> 02:08:12,079
don't know if this is what you guys are
talking about, but where the kids can't

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02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:15,920
reach, but they're sitting on the lap of
mom or dad.

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02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:20,880
» Who's really driving at that point? Can
that uh, family, that driver be cited

1763
02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:25,920
for having the kid in front? She
certainly isn't wearing a seat belt,

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02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:31,520
probably. So that would in your next
report just put some commentary in that.

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02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:36,159
I'm not asking for a a special uh
session on this but you know just

1766
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:43,440
educate all of us how how you how the
police see that. Um still speaking of of

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02:08:39,199 --> 02:08:48,719
police uh the CIF retirement was uh
>> pretty outstanding. Um I I can only hope

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02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:53,360
I'm that missed when I'm [laughter]
>> ready to move. I don't think so.

1769
02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:57,599
But uh but don't throw tennis balls at
me

1770
02:08:54,880 --> 02:09:02,719
like that. I'll just close out by saying
um the primary uh runoff is tomorrow.

1771
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:07,199
That's why we're meeting tonight. We're
going to scoop up all the chairs and all

1772
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:12,400
that. Um if you're so inclined, don't
forget to vote. With that,

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02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,840
I need a motion.
>> Mr. Mayor,

1774
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,480
» Mr. Stamley,
>> I'd like to make a motion we this

1775
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:23,360
meeting.
>> Thank you. Any discussion?

1776
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:27,159
All in favor? I opposed. None. Motion
carries. meeting a joke.