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client privilege

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we'll move on.

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moment of silence right now.

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Uh I don't know if anyone has someone

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who's fallen on hard times or passed

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uh let folks know, but if not, let's

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have a moment of silence.

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brings me forward and especially keep in

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mind next month, September, means Yeah,

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September 11th.

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And of course you can ask

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So, please remember

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Thank you very much.

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Pledge of allegiance.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag

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>> of the United States of America

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and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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» All right, Susan Crumb.

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I grew up in my local lines to the next

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side, but I'm here to consider what's on

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the agenda tonight. Which one?

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I'll congratulate you on waiting till

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the end of the season to put it on the

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agenda, but thank you for putting it on

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the agenda nonetheless.

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I'll I'll sit here with the support of

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the Inner Education Partnership. I do

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this every year. That should be no

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surprise to you as well.

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Um the Inner Education Partnership has

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done a great job giving many grants for

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uh teachers,

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giving scholarships to students in

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Hinder County regardless

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of their um GPA,

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regardless of their economic standing,

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they are vetted by what they plan to do

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with their life and how they plan

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themselves and who stand, protect, and

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enhance.

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So, I think they're a very

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I think they're an amazing partnership

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and they do a lot for the inner county

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students and the school all across the

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county.

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So, I'm going to

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absolutely support them.

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Um on other notes, I would like to know

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when we're going to get an update on our

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traffic situation in Surf City.

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going to get an update on any budget

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amendments so that we're not using our

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funds accordingly.

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I'm going to stop now. Thank you.

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Yeah, how much?

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>> This is the one that was submitted

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online for the noise ordinance.

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Do you want me to read it?

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>> Oh, I don't mind.

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You can summarize it if you want.

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>> It is from Daniel Arnold. He um

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concerning the noise ordinance, the bass

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levels are too high at the most musical

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events around the town especially coming

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from the Pirates Tavern.

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That's actually what it was.

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» Okay, so he thinks the hot noise is too

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loud.

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>> Mhm. And he wants to know how the

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speakers are directed out to be directed

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in. I actually think he's right.

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>> I do.

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>> What I read, the only difference between

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our proposed changes to what

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Mr. Arnold suggested was on the weekend.

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I think the decibel level was the same

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as what we're getting ready

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to we got recommended tonight. But, when

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was talking about changing the speakers,

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that will make it less loud for where he

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is, but it might make it louder for

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somebody else. So,

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This is the mayor's minute. Change it up

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a little bit. Do a little work. New

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mayor's minute. I'm going to update the

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things that have been

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and find the

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Y'all have brought to our attention and

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wanted us to follow through on that.

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>> Sure. Um, we would like to just update a

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few things, but um, first thing I would

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like to do is I would like to introduce

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our new building inspector and code

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enforcement officer.

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You read this back to them.

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Um, so I'd like to uh, introduce Doug

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Skipper. He's at the back of the room

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Uh, Doug comes to us with 12 years of

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service with local government in various

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roles, including facilities, grounds,

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and street supervisor. He also has

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emergency management experience, so

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that's very helpful, certainly being

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here in Topsail Coast.

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Um, before local government, Doug spent

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20 years as an outside plant

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telecommunications system tech.

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I'll let you ask him what that means.

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I'm not going to sugarcoat that.

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>> Uh, he is a North Carolina native and

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has been a resident of the area for more

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than 25 years. Um, and he actually

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married his beautiful bride right here

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in Topsail Beach at the Assembly

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Building. So, we very much have some

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ties here to Topsail Beach and hopefully

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some love.

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Another fun fact, Doug was actually

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employed with the town way back in 2013

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as a marina attendant. So,

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>> um, he started last Monday, hit the

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ground running. He's already been a huge

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asset to the Community Development uh,

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Department and the town as a whole. So,

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I am happy to welcome back the to the

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Topsail team. And if you have the

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opportunity at some point coming up, I'd

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love you all to stop by and introduce

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yourself and give him a warm Topsail

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Beach welcome.

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Doug, would you like to say anything?

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» Well, I just want to say Topsail Beach

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is the coolest beach town on the island.

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You guys do a lot right down here,

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obviously. I think you struck a good

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balance down here and I'm

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real happy to be a part of this good

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team. You got a great municipal team

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here. I've seen a few now, so I got a

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pretty good gauge on that.

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I can be of any help beyond my duties as

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building inspector, please let me know.

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>> Thank you, Doug.

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>> You're welcome.

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» Welcome to Topsail Beach. Full-time

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employee.

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>> And we're very excited.

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Um and then secondly, um based on some

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previous comments that we've had um

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regarding the new legislation um

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regarding occupancy tax, as we have

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said, uh we've been trying to get kind

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of to the bottom of that. And we we had

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some a local act that we we weren't sure

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how that was going to kind of co-mingle,

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so we had to do some digging, but we

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have finally gotten an interpretation on

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that and I'm going to let Connie explain

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that to you guys.

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» Okay, so back in 1984,

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we had a local act, the Topsail Beach

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accommodation tax. And this act, in our

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uh routine that Rochelle has just put up

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on the screen for you, um it states that

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under this act, all occupancy taxes so

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received shall be used only for

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tourism-related expenditures,

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which expenditures shall include public

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safety, police protection, fire

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protection, public facilities and

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utilities, health facilities, solid

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waste, and sewage treatment, and the

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control and repair of water front

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erosion.

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It shall not be proper for the town to

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use any of these funds for services

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normally provided by the town on behalf

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of the citizens, unless these services

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promote tourism and enlarge its economic

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benefits by enhancing the ability of the

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town to attract and provide with

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tourists.

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the Senate bill 484,

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this I feel that was connected in 1984

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does simply receive that, and we are not

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in violation, nor is our service city, I

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believe.

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We wanted to let everybody know that.

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We're glad of that. So.

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We did have our attorney was very

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adamant in helping us get that

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information, and we thank you, Mr.

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Mayor.

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>> You're welcome.

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» Um another update that we would like to

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give is that I think that some

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information there is

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certainly since the incident with the

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fire on South Shore, there was some

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concern as to, you know, that road being

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blocked um with emergency services and

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things like that. And one of the

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concerns was our um landing zone if we

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were to have to have a medical um

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helicopter land here. Um

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we've had to use

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typically use the intersection of

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Haywood and South Anderson.

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and I guess there was a lot of concern

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of what happens if that lot develops and

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we can no longer use that site. Um we

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certainly have back ups. Rest assured.

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department. He let me know that our

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primary location is at North Anderson

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and Haywood Avenue. Um but if that road

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is developed or if there's that

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intersection

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unusable for that purpose, a secondary

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location is down at the intersection of

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Florida and Ocean.

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Um a larger section not on South

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Anderson, but on Ocean.

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designated down at the um cul-de-sac of

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Monroe Lane.

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So, um there is a fourth I'm not even

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going to mention it cuz um we we all

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probably never get there. But, there is

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a even a fourth option. So, um these

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three locations have all been all the

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GPS coordinates have been sent in to

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Kinder County Emergency Management.

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uh with their 911 center. They've even

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been sent to the um private companies um

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that that do the private you know, now a

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lot of that is on private unfortunately

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like AT&T and things like that. So, um

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but just rest assured we we do have our

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primary location, but we have many many

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backups. Um if if it ever becomes

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just want to make sure everybody's rest

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assured with that.

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Um and also to address some of the

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traffic issues, you see DOT is

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through our our planning organization

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that we're part of has come up with

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several uh different options that they know that we want to move forward.

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However, it seems with close DOT. And um

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the ones that we uh have been identified

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um number one is the real

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realignment of the

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it's it's 210 and 60 interchange, but

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not necessarily realignment but they're

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adding another

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to be able to pull off off 210 and come

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to Medlin Avenue.

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Medlin Drive.

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So, there's going to be another

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intersection there that will have to

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relieve some of the traffic from

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public's

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intersection.

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Uh the other is tied to that. This is

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be bit longer range.

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It is an improvement on Highway 17

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coming in.

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And that will go to like a dual lane

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coming into our proper road.

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17 and I think that was all that road

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will be a four-lane road.

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They could have changed but time is not

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on our side.

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Uh the work on the first item that it

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has been approved for budget year is $24

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million.

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And that work

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uh is supposed to start in 2030.

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The

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And so we're waiting to learn. And the

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third item that that's on

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the board right now is uh

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I guess an extension of our road that

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goes

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uh you remember that IGA had the road in

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front of it?

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That might be resurrected again. So, we

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would take a straight shot to our our

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road through town. I guess so we can

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avoid the roundabout. And they'll get to

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the north section of the

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town.

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Uh I don't have any report on the

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[clears throat] topic.

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Monitoring the traffic

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>> Um I can tell you that um

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DOT wanted to conduct some

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more studies um of the traffic

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especially along the corridor section

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coming onto the island.

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Um and they requested that we hold off

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on the flaggers

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um while they conducted their survey.

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Um they they were able to complete that.

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We actually just got an email on August

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4th um from the engineering firm that's

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doing that study for DOT. And they were

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able to complete all of that, but now

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they need 2 weeks after that in order to

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do their comparison so they can see you

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know, the 2 weeks of what they did with

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the signaling and things like that. And

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they need 2 weeks behind it. So, we're

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still looking at another, you know,

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week

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uh of that.

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At that time after that, I think Kyle

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and I have talked about getting back

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together and trying to decide if maybe

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we want to bring back the flaggers at

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least for Labor Day weekend.

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Um, but that would probably be the last

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weekend that we would do it. Um, we do

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today with the $30,000 that the board

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approved for um, the traffic, um, we've

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used 16,000 today. So, we do have some funding left over if you would like

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to do the same thing

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something.

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If you will likely see them Labor Day

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weekend, we think it will help to manage

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the uh, heavier holiday traffic, um, but

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that might be the last only last weekend

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you see them back for this season.

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>> So, the light on the bridge will remain

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for a while.

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Cuz I think that does help.

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>> The light on the bridge has shown

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they've got some some data to back that

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up that it does seem to help helps

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getting traffic on the island. It

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doesn't necessarily help in, you know,

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traffic getting off cuz I mean, it I'm

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sorry, it helps getting off the island,

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but it doesn't help necessarily getting

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on the island. So, there's some

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complaints that, you know, it backs

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traffic up, um,

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over the bridge and onto that corridor

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area with the traffic light there. But,

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it does help to get the traffic off of

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the island.

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Um, I think that what we found in our

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preliminary, this, you know,

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non-scientific study, um, and actually

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what DMV has found as well is there just

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gets to a point where there's so much

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traffic saturation that it really

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doesn't

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There is no answer.

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Um,

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you know, we've all brainstormed, not

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only Kyle and myself, but other other,

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you know, DOTs and and other entities

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trying to just throw spaghetti on the

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wall what we can, you know, talk about.

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Um,

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so, there's some ideas and we're going

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to continue to to write them all down.

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If you have an idea, bring it to me.

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We're going to write it all down and and

403
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go through it. So, even if it seems

404
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crazy, bring it to me. Um,

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and you know, that's all we can do, but

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there just gets to a point where there's

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so much saturation with traffic that

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I don't without more pavement

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and more roads, I'm not sure what else

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we can do.

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» But they're going to resurrect the IGA

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lane.

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>> Do you mean coming

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Would that work?

415
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>> I have a I have a picture of it. If I

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can if I can get it in up here quick and

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I'll see if

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you can do that.

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Um basically what's going to happen is

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where where we go to the roundabout,

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there's going to be a secondary kind of

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road that you could go straight towards

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the IGA without having to enter the

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roundabout.

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>> That makes sense.

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>> Uh well, anybody who anybody who would

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want to go to the North end doesn't have

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to go into the traffic circle.

429
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>> What about Kinston Avenue where all

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these people are coming from both ways

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and hogging in if it's even straight,

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it's still going to be a problem.

433
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>> Yeah, that's Believe me, we've all

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talked about that being a problem for

435
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sure, but um

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from what I understand again, I'm not a

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traffic engineer, so I can't you know, I

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can't speak to it, but um you know, I

439
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said, "Why don't we they close that

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off?" You know, so people don't come

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into the right at the the circle, but

442
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unfortunately by closing that off, you

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push people the opposite way and then

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into the downtown area where most of the

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pedestrian traffic is in some cities.

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So, at this point, that's not what they

447
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want to do. They don't want to put that

448
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the traffic there, but um they do know

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that it's it's an issue. Um

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So,

451
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>> One or the other on the surface road.

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Yeah, let's uh sorry, yeah, that

453
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that's a long-term although that's not a

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high priority right now, so on their

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drawing board.

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>> Okay.

457
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» It's got to be a nightmare um

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through there.

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>> approve the regular agenda.

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>> I make a motion to approve the regular

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agenda.

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>> I second that.

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>> All in favor?

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>> Aye.

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» I'm for the ventures.

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>> Help?

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>> No.

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>> Aye.

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» Approval of the consent agenda.

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» I can make a motion to approve the

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consent agenda as presented.

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>> Second.

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>> Motion is second. All in favor?

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>> Aye.

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>> One One question on the on the vote. Are

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the old Christmas trees on the

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dumping ground there?

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Do you think that's marketable?

479
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>> We I don't know. Um I'm going to reach

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out to our sales rep from our company

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and see

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if there is a market for that and

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see what happens.

484
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>> If it doesn't sell, where do we get rid

485
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of it?

486
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>> Good question.

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Cuz it's taking up a lot of room.

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>> It's a Christmas tree heaven.

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>> Yeah.

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» One

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» Yeah, it's plastic and metal, so

492
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>> Okay.

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>> Next public hearing.

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Uh

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item nine.

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Consider and vote on the funding request

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for Inner Education Partnership.

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>> Okay.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Everyone does stand.

501
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» Welcome.

502
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>> How are you everybody?

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>> Great. Great.

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>> Great.

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Great.

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» I'm going right to the week, okay?

507
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>> Help Flags.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> That was established in 2015.

510
00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,720
There abouts.

511
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Um it's from an idea of educator and

512
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high school scholarship support for

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Pender County Schools by an individual

514
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who actually had a child that was in

515
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school with Topsail High School, and she

516
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,800
wanted to do something beyond the

517
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boosters, which is a lot of athletic

518
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focus, and she wanted something in more

519
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of an academic achievement pathway.

520
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Not only for the students who excels on

521
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the field and on the court and had

522
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straight A's and all of that, but

523
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students that wanted to go to trade

524
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school, that wanted to earn a trade, or

525
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,480
wanted to get a vocational degree, or

526
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even a student who maybe was not the

527
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best academically, but wanted to do

528
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something.

529
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So Pender Education Partnership started

530
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out

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as a small nonprofit organization held

532
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,440
by seven board members at the time, just

533
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enough to get it started.

534
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And I would like to share with you today

535
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that 10 years later, effective last

536
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year, May of 2025,

537
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,840
we have awarded over $300,000 to Pender

538
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,360
County Schools.

539
00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,160
That is a consolidation of high school

540
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,240
seniors who submitted application and an

541
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essay to our board for review and

542
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,320
approval, but also as a newly

543
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implemented program, which supports

544
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,240
educators at the high schools to include

545
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,720
staff as well as teachers, librarians,

546
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,200
nurses,

547
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,960
uh counselors, anybody that has an idea

548
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,000
that is not supported by our district

549
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,640
funds in Pender County Schools

550
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600
that would like to do something that

551
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,760
would impact a variety of students. It

552
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,200
can be a variant age, it can be a

553
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variant of the target audience, your

554
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STEM students, your

555
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um robotics team, whatever it may be.

556
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So we have allocated over $300,000 as of

557
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,760
this point to Pender Education

558
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Partnership.

559
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,480
Fact number one, last year we designated

560
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,240
$18,000 in award for educator mini

561
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,160
grants. Fact number two, we awarded

562
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,360
$11,000 for senior high school

563
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:22,240
scholarships. Fact number three, we have

564
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,760
put 12 students in a forklift operator

565
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520
certification training program,

566
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,280
otherwise known as lift, which is a

567
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,840
learning initiative for forklift

568
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,120
training that we are in partnership with

569
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,480
Coastal Pender Rotary and have been

570
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,240
since last year.

571
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,800
And the fourth thing I want to share is

572
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,600
we recently partnered with what they

573
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,720
call Root Ed. Root Ed is a new program

574
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,840
that actually is going to help third

575
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,400
graders in our area and it helps third

576
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,520
graders coming from out of our area to

577
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,080
learn about the different things there

578
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520
are to do, like the Turtle Hospital and

579
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,240
Moores Creek Battleground and things of

580
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,360
that nature. So, we are now partnered

581
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,880
with Root Ed,

582
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,520
which also is part of Pender County

583
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,680
Tourism TDA.

584
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080
The next thing I want to share with you

585
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,000
is the need is growing.

586
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,680
We are finding more and more students

587
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,920
that are reaching out for

588
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760
need, financial need. Particularly with

589
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,360
the economy the way that it is right

590
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,240
now, it's not as affordable for a young

591
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,000
person to go off to college and have to

592
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,440
have a car or to be able to find a place

593
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,680
to live. Lord knows anybody that's seen

594
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,760
rent prices around, you have to rent now

595
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,200
for $2,000, $2,500.

596
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,480
Imagine being a young person 18, 19

597
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,880
years old and you're having to go and

598
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,120
find a place to stay, not in the dorm,

599
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,160
but in an apartment. You sometimes have

600
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,760
to have four and five roommates just to

601
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,920
be able to get by. That's the times

602
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,400
we're in right now. So, there is a need

603
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840
for more scholarships for our high

604
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,720
school seniors.

605
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,240
In case you do not know this, there were

606
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,560
five high schools in Pender County. We

607
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,440
service Pender Innovative Learning

608
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,680
Academy. That is an online/in-person

609
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720
facility for young people who experience

610
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800
behavioral issues,

611
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,520
anxiety,

612
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,520
mental health. We don't want them

613
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,520
dropping out, so there is another

614
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920
pathway for them to stay in school and

615
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
actually graduate,

616
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,080
but not have the challenges of the

617
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,840
awkwardness when it comes to social

618
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,200
behavior and having to interact and be

619
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
at a normal traditional public school

620
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,240
environment.

621
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,520
Pender Early College High School, that

622
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,480
is a dual enrollment program. This

623
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,240
facility is through Cape Fear Community

624
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080
College. I wanted to share with you, I

625
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,760
found out today that out of the 250

626
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,120
enrolled students at Pender Early

627
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,320
College as of right now, 120 students

628
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,440
come from the east side of this county.

629
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,000
They're bust over to Pender Early

630
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,640
College every morning at 8:00 and

631
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160
dropped off. They stay there until 3:15

632
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200
in the afternoon. These young people are

633
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,160
taking classes that are college credit

634
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,960
classes while they're also earning their

635
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,840
high school diploma and their high

636
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,840
school credits.

637
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,040
Not everyone is cut out to be a dual

638
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,360
enrolled student. They're missing out on

639
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,320
a lot of things like athletics and those

640
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
curricular extracurricular programs and

641
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,320
organizations and things that people

642
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,360
typically do in a traditional high

643
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,640
school environment because

644
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,880
they are geared for excellence. I want

645
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,280
to share with you that some of these

646
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,920
students have gone on to some very very eloquent universities. We had one

647
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,720
that was from the Topsail Beach area,

648
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Alan Miller. She was recognized with the

649
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Historical Society. She just went not

650
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,360
too long ago to Cambridge, to England,

651
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,280
to the Art Institute.

652
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,640
And she has studied abroad. We had two

653
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520
students this summer, one went to Italy,

654
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,320
one went to Germany.

655
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520
We've had students go to Vanderbilt.

656
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,680
We've had young lady that got accepted

657
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,160
at Harvard. She's also taking classes

658
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,360
for Oxford. We have a young lady who

659
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,560
went to UPenn. We have a young man that

660
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,960
went University of Southern California.

661
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,320
We also have somebody that went to Duke

662
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,400
and we have several that go to Chapel

663
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,240
Hill and have been awarded the Morehead

664
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,200
Scholarship. And if you know anything

665
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,080
about Morehead came, that is a very, very strategic and tedious

666
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,480
process, an application, and it is only

667
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,800
for the Chapel Hill students. And it is

668
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,160
typically a full ride. And we've had two

669
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,760
students at Pender Early College that

670
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600
have been recognized for Morehead came.

671
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,000
So,

672
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000
to catch you up on what's going on this

673
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,320
side,

674
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,160
at Topsail High School, we recently

675
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,600
awarded

676
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,440
two $1,000 scholarships and four $500

677
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480
scholarships. We were able to give a

678
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,040
thousand more dollars to each of the

679
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,960
schools this year by what we were able

680
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,280
to raise last year.

681
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,440
We typically have at least three from

682
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,800
each school. And if we are able to give

683
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000
more, we definitely do that.

684
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
For the

685
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Heide Trask High School, we had four

686
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000
scholarships. We had two $1,000

687
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,640
recognition awards and then we had two

688
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,120
$500 recognition awards. For Pender High

689
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,360
School, we had four. We had two that

690
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,760
received 1,000 each and then two more

691
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,440
that received another 500.

692
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,200
And lastly, let's see.

693
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,240
The Jones Traweek Scholarship. We had

694
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,640
another individual that was awarded a

695
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200
full ride, which is $20,000.

696
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,800
That is an endowment scholarship by

697
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,400
Mr. Bill Traweek and honor and in memory

698
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840
of his friend that was a minority and he

699
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,680
passed away in a very tragic accident

700
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,960
and he continues to support our young

701
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,200
people with

702
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,720
their education. He takes one student

703
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,600
per year and he puts $20,000 in that

704
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,560
student and it's a full ride from the

705
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480
time they start their college education

706
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,280
to the time they finish.

707
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Mr. Traywick has since decided that

708
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160
there is one young lady, the very first

709
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760
award recipient of his scholarship, he

710
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,080
will continue to support as she is now

711
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,560
in grad school. She is a teacher, she

712
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280
has her own classroom, and she is now

713
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,720
getting her master's and I have a

714
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,920
feeling she's probably going to get a

715
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,840
doctorate in education. But he's

716
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,680
continuing to pay for that for her

717
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,000
because

718
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600
it's not cheap to go to school,

719
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,360
especially if you're going to somewhere

720
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,960
that is what we consider a high-end

721
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,680
elite university.

722
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,120
So,

723
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,480
if you don't leave me, listen to this.

724
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760
My name is Yasser.

725
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,040
I come from College Park, Atlanta. I

726
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760
moved to Burgaw to pursue my education.

727
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,280
And at Pender High School, I have been

728
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,600
able to gain many beneficial experiences

729
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,680
from clubs and activities like Beta, the

730
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,640
Four County Leadership Program, as well

731
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,400
as varsity football, track and field.

732
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,680
In high school, starting as a freshman

733
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,920
during the COVID years, I learned quite

734
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,360
quickly that things don't go as you

735
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,000
always plan. Growing up in a household

736
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
with five children, two who have autism,

737
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,360
one who needs a kidney, and not having

738
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,840
any money, I've learned that things are

739
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,840
quite difficult and you have to make

740
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240
effort to make situations be better, not

741
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,800
only for yourselves, but for those

742
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,960
around you.

743
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,680
I work at Hardee's.

744
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Not many people can say that with pride,

745
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,240
but I do because I help contribute to

746
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040
pay the rent for my mom and dad in small

747
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920
payments because I know they need it.

748
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,840
Schooling experiences at home have

749
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080
prepared me for a life in college. A

750
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,960
scholarship is going to allow me to

751
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
pursue my education at North Carolina

752
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
A&T, majoring business analyst

753
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040
analytics, and as a dual enrolled

754
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,840
student, I will also study some other

755
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
things at UNCW. This scholarship will

756
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,840
allow me to attend and work and do my

757
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,520
class work attentively and allow me to

758
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560
continue to participate in small

759
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,000
projects in my community.

760
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
And one day, I'm going to be something.

761
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720
Yashal was one of our recipients of

762
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,880
scholarship.

763
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Meet this individual.

764
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,960
Both of my parents were school educators

765
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,560
and they worked all across the county

766
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,960
teaching in multiple elementary and

767
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,280
middle schools. I myself have attended

768
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,920
five different schools in Pender County

769
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,440
and I feel like I've gotten the best

770
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,880
education possible despite some of the

771
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200
extenuating circumstances. We were

772
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,600
displaced during COVID.

773
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880
We lost our and we also lost our home

774
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680
during Florence.

775
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040
For these factors alone, this has a

776
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,400
paramount effect on my education and as

777
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160
well, it has made me into a much

778
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,960
stronger individual.

779
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,800
I am dual enrolled at Cape Fear

780
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Community College and take advanced

781
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,000
placement classes. So, I have learned

782
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,840
how to successfully study and manage my

783
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,200
time.

784
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Throughout my high school career, my

785
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480
peers and I have identified a need for

786
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160
classroom emergency kits in the case of

787
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,200
a school shooting. Not that anybody

788
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,920
wants to think about it, but these are

789
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720
the times we're in.

790
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,680
With the help of the HOSA club advisor

791
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,320
and the PTSO and the administrative team

792
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,320
at Topsail High, we have been able to

793
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,240
supply every classroom with basic

794
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,200
emergency essentials and a tourniquet. I

795
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,440
also learned about Stop the Bleed.

796
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
That's the material we received from the

797
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400
nursing staff at Topsail High School. I

798
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,120
never imagined I would be able to do

799
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,960
something like that and have that

800
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,080
experience that would stick with me for

801
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
the rest of my life as I continue to

802
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,640
pursue my career in health sciences.

803
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
After school, I have decided that I am

804
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
going to attend Campbell University and

805
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,120
major in pre-physical therapy. I'm

806
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
coming back to Pender County and I

807
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,160
intend to help stop the bleed, and I

808
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,080
also contend to advocate for more

809
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,920
emergency kits as we continue to face

810
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,880
these troubled times. I'm forever

811
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,720
indebted to staff members, coaches,

812
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,200
church leaders, and teachers that have

813
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680
got me where I am, and I'm most grateful

814
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,080
to PEB for scholarship.

815
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,270
And one more.

816
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760
As one who has moved as many as nine

817
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,120
times in my school years, Topsail High

818
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,080
School has definitely proved itself in

819
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,320
terms of its standards, opportunities,

820
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800
and a level of care that has shown has

821
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,160
been shown from its faculty and

822
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
community. Topsail makes up its lack of

823
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,720
cultural diversity through its expansive

824
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,520
education system. All of my teachers

825
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,240
from history, English, and band have

826
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640
integrated curriculum with different

827
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,720
cultures in mind and have provided

828
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,440
students the opportunity to take a

829
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,640
deeper dive as they desire more

830
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,320
appropriate resources. And as a minor

831
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,320
minority student, I greatly appreciate

832
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,760
that Topsail High School puts a focus on

833
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,440
diversity.

834
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,000
I have made a decision to become a

835
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,880
financial advisor.

836
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,120
I also want to come back into Pender

837
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,800
County and help educate the poor

838
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,320
communities about how to become

839
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440
financially successful, budget planning,

840
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200
setting up workshops, and even helping

841
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400
people at the bank set up an account if

842
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,840
that's what I need to do.

843
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,400
The teachers at Topsail are very

844
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,720
knowledgeable in their field and are

845
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,960
dedicated to their students. Their level

846
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,600
of care and commitment for the students

847
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,960
is evident in their everyday

848
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,000
interactions, and they do make

849
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,600
everything better.

850
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Personally, the band and JROTC has

851
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,640
propelled my preparation for continuing

852
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
my education to allow me to dig deeper

853
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,960
and learn about myself.

854
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,880
The band has shown me that I love music,

855
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440
and I have now decided I'm pursuing

856
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400
UNCW's music education program,

857
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,920
allowing me to share musical

858
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,840
appreciation to others around the

859
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,640
community, maybe even the country. JROTC

860
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,840
has given me spiritual insight into what

861
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,520
I need to know how I you to what I need

862
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,440
to do to be a leader and a teammate. All

863
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,120
of these lessons I have learned from my

864
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,840
experiences at Topsail High School.

865
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720
I can make a genuine difference in the

866
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,510
world.

867
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560
That is who receives our scholarships.

868
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,480
I can't tell you the countless essays

869
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,200
that we get. Sometimes we get 42,

870
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600
sometimes we get 45.

871
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760
I have read stories about

872
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,360
abuse at home.

873
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
I have read stories about

874
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,680
financial loss.

875
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,920
I've read

876
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,000
substance abuse issues.

877
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,440
I've read about homelessness.

878
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,120
These young people pour their hearts out

879
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,480
in these essays, and it is evident that

880
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,960
they need financial assistance.

881
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,440
I've had the opportunity to be the

882
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,120
president of Pender Education

883
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Partnership going on 5 years now.

884
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,800
And sadly next year is my last year.

885
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,200
I don't know how they're going to do it.

886
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,880
I don't know what they're going to do,

887
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,000
but I want to go out with a bang.

888
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520
So, I'm asking the town of Topsail Beach

889
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
to continue your support and allocate

890
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,320
the $5,000 that we need to continue to

891
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520
do the work that we do because we are

892
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:08,590
making a difference.

893
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,960
» Any questions or

894
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,720
>> Mr. Chairman, I just like

895
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:12,200
>> Yes.

896
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
>> thoughts running through my head and do

897
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,080
it for a minute.

898
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,600
>> Oh, let me do that.

899
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,280
>> It's just it's easy for us sitting here

900
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,040
in a very affluent

901
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,040
part of Pender County is to wonder how

902
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,639
we benefit from from this because those

903
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,280
kids don't live

904
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,600
on Topsail Beach. And what I what I

905
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,840
would suggest is that

906
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,960
we have lots of people drive close to

907
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,200
the bridge every day to clean our houses

908
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,480
and provide construction services and

909
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,040
stuff to support the tourism that we

910
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,159
want to have top to be.

911
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,639
Those are the parents of these kids that

912
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:50,639
you're talking about.

913
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:51,520
>> Absolutely.

914
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,399
>> So,

915
00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:54,639
it's an indirect benefit, but for the

916
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,120
parents to know that they have that kind

917
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,200
of support, I think that it's a really

918
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160
big benefit to our county it is.

919
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,480
>> I want to make it very clear that the

920
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Pender Education Partnership is not East

921
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600
side versus West side.

922
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,760
We are one county. We are Pender strong.

923
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600
We support students on the West side of

924
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,720
the county. We support students on the

925
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,990
East side of the county.

926
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,840
I realize that there is somewhat of a

927
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Mason-Dixon line when you cross the

928
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Lane's Ferry Bridge,

929
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,120
but the need is honestly the same on

930
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,800
this side of the county as it is on the

931
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,600
other side of the county when it comes

932
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,640
to these scholarships. It doesn't have

933
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,400
anything to do with infrastructure. It

934
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,960
doesn't have anything to do with what

935
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,840
was built in this school, what was fixed

936
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,400
in that school. That's not what it's

937
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,480
about.

938
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,760
I have no control over district funds. I

939
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
can't decide on what's being done in a

940
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,400
capital budget, but I can help drive

941
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,280
this, and that's what I intend to do.

942
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,720
So,

943
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,200
if you don't understand that honestly it

944
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,920
is a full circle because like he said, a

945
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,040
lot of these parents of these young

946
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,680
people are your people that work at the

947
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,600
grocery stores. They're your bank

948
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440
tellers. They're your car salesmen. They

949
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,160
are your people who clean houses and

950
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,680
have cleaning businesses. They're your

951
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,240
dog groomers.

952
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,480
They're only trying to do what they can

953
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
to afford their child the opportunity to

954
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,480
go to school and not have to make the

955
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,800
choice between education and earning a

956
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,510
living.

957
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,160
You want to stand?

958
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Please stand. Please stand.

959
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,240
Pender Education Partnership was

960
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,760
originally started by Susan Cream. She

961
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520
is the originator of this foundation.

962
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200
And I'm telling you right now,

963
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
my daughter was a recipient of a

964
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,440
scholarship for the CNA program.

965
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,240
And I got involved because as a single

966
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,680
mother, I struggled to help my daughter

967
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
pay for CNA.

968
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
And Susan talked me into putting in an

969
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
application. And I've been hooked ever

970
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,240
since.

971
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,640
I've been on the board I've been on the

972
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,280
board and I've been the president now

973
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,320
for this is going on 5 years. So,

974
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,240
it touched me

975
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,960
and it made me want to go into action

976
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,360
and I can only hope that the next

977
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,480
president will have as much fervor and zest and passion as I do.

978
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,280
Um but

979
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,780
>> What you said.

980
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:20,960
>> [clears throat]

981
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
>> I can't just sit there.

982
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,520
It's the teachers, too.

983
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:24,920
>> Yeah.

984
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,600
>> So, all the teachers in Pender County

985
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,200
schools spend ton of their money their

986
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,840
own money for our kids that all these

987
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160
kids benefit from.

988
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,920
And they come and they send in their

989
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
little request. I would like to buy 12

990
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480
blank kids and my kids can learn how to

991
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,320
do a clock painter

992
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,080
check. There you go. Here's your $150.

993
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960
You can buy a bunch of potatoes.

994
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,800
It's It's anything. Anything to help the

995
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,800
kids learn. So, it's It is on this side

996
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,600
of the bridge, too, cuz I was on this

997
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,560
side of the bridge when I started it.

998
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,480
So,

999
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,160
it is on this side.

1000
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,040
>> We have a lot of teachers that live on

1001
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,840
this side of the county that either work

1002
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,880
in elementary, middle, or high school.

1003
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,720
And and they will tell you every year

1004
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,560
they go to the Dollar General and they

1005
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840
buy supplies to put in the classroom. It

1006
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,720
can be anything from baby wipes to the

1007
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,280
tennis balls that go on the bottom of

1008
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,200
the chairs to extra pencils to whatever

1009
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,720
it may be.

1010
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,080
But when it comes to field trips, when

1011
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,480
it comes to technology, when it comes to

1012
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,640
books, when it comes to fun things to do

1013
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,920
in the classroom, they don't always have

1014
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,040
that extra money. And that's where PEP

1015
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,320
comes in. They fill out an application,

1016
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,120
they tell us how much the dollar amount

1017
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,160
is,

1018
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,280
and we try to be as

1019
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,840
even

1020
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,160
as we can. We give everybody a cut-off

1021
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,440
period,

1022
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560
and

1023
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,240
we have awarded a lot of money, not only

1024
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,000
to the high school seniors, but also to

1025
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,360
the teachers.

1026
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
And when Hurricane Florence came, a lot

1027
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,520
of the Pender County staff, to include

1028
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,320
custodians, janitors, teachers, staff

1029
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,280
members, a lot of people were either

1030
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,360
displaced, they had flooding, or

1031
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
whatever. Instead of doing the educator

1032
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,600
mini grants, we cut checks. We wrote

1033
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,240
checks for $300, and we gave 69 checks

1034
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,320
for $300 right before Christmas. They

1035
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,800
could do whatever they wanted to do with

1036
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,200
it. Buy gifts, pay a car payment, rent,

1037
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,280
whatever you want to do. We felt like it

1038
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,000
was the right thing to do. We had the

1039
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,040
money,

1040
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,480
so we did it.

1041
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,240
We've been blessed.

1042
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,120
We would like to continue to be blessed.

1043
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,440
>> Thank you.

1044
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,840
>> If anybody in this room would like to

1045
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,920
contribute to PEP, it is the easiest

1046
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,600
thing in the world to do. You can ask

1047
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Mr. Ed, he knows how. You either write a

1048
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,360
check to Pender Education Partnership,

1049
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,320
it can be any amount you want to. It is

1050
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,400
tax

1051
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
taxable, it is a tax write-off.

1052
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160
You go to First Citizens Bank, any of

1053
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,760
those lovely people down there know our

1054
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,400
account number, they'll take your money

1055
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,440
anytime you get ready. We also are fancy

1056
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,640
enough now that we have an online

1057
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,600
contribution. You can go online, pay

1058
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,360
with your credit card, it gives you a

1059
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,840
receipt instantly to your email, and you

1060
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,520
can use that as your tax write-off.

1061
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,280
Any amount of money.

1062
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,360
We were not going

1063
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,000
to turn you away.

1064
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,400
If you are sitting here, and you don't

1065
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,880
have any children, you don't have any

1066
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,600
grandchildren, you don't have any nieces

1067
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,760
or nephews,

1068
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,720
please consider leaving PEP an

1069
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,960
endowment. That money will continue to

1070
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,640
go, God forbid, after you're not here,

1071
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360
but you will be making an impact and it

1072
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
will mean something. So,

1073
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,880
please consider that as well.

1074
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,203
>> Do we have a question for

1075
00:40:41,213 --> 00:40:42,760
» [laughter]

1076
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,510
>> I'll leave you some of this.

1077
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,360
» I have a I have a I'd like to make a

1078
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,760
comment. Um

1079
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,200
I It's not for you specifically, Tammy.

1080
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,880
It's actually for all the nonprofits

1081
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,120
that are requesting, it would include

1082
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,760
Kathy. Philosophically, I'm struggling

1083
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
with uh giving money to nonprofits.

1084
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,400
We have two requests tonight. We

1085
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,480
typically get four in a year.

1086
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Uh I believe the purpose of the

1087
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,120
government is to collect taxes to fund

1088
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,640
government services.

1089
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,120
I believe government should do little

1090
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,800
else. I don't see where funding

1091
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,240
nonprofits

1092
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:16,360
fits into that scenario. Individuals and

1093
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640
businesses give to nonprofits, which

1094
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,960
they obviously do, and it's from their

1095
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,120
earnings and profits. Um I have and will

1096
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,360
continue to give to most of the local

1097
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000
nonprofits both time and money. Um

1098
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080
tonight I'm going to help Top Topsail

1099
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Turtle Project. Um but I'm not inclined

1100
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440
to give money as

1101
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,520
that has been collected involuntarily

1102
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,160
from others and and it I just don't see

1103
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
how that goes how that makes any sense.

1104
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120
So, I'm I'm a no vote on financial

1105
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,320
giving to nonprofits from the town.

1106
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Not not not specifically that one, but all of them. Just cuz I have a

1107
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,760
philosophical problem with that.

1108
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,520
>> Okay.

1109
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,240
>> Make a motion to leave uh um

1110
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,800
I get 500 1500 C. I get

1111
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,240
>> I'll second the second.

1112
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,680
>> All in favor?

1113
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,400
>> I.

1114
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000
I with Alex.

1115
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,080
So we have three two.

1116
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,950
Yes.

1117
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,320
I discuss, consider, and vote on Stony

1118
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Reflect for Historical Society of South

1119
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,520
Laurel.

1120
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,830
English.

1121
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,680
» Evening.

1122
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,880
>> Um

1123
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200
I really enjoyed that. Um

1124
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,840
I It It kind of

1125
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,920
I It reminded me that what I heard you

1126
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,840
say tonight was different than what I

1127
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,680
have on my tape.

1128
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,040
Um

1129
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
On Captain Hart, I represent the

1130
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,880
Historical Society of South Laurel.

1131
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Um

1132
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,120
good evening, everybody. Um

1133
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,200
Allie Miller was mentioned. And because

1134
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,400
of the support we get from

1135
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,120
um the town,

1136
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,600
uh we're able to give people We gave her

1137
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,240
We provided her a scholarship this year,

1138
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,800
as well as three other senior

1139
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,720
from the South Laurel area high schools.

1140
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,000
We do that every year.

1141
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800
And um we also

1142
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,680
um provide for the aquarium program from

1143
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,480
that support

1144
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,360
uh every year. And I actually attended

1145
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,160
one of those programs.

1146
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,120
And I was so amazed at the input from

1147
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,360
the children.

1148
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,200
And they told me how much they enjoyed

1149
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,200
it.

1150
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,840
I really was amazed.

1151
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,240
Um

1152
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,960
and also, I think we uh support the uh

1153
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,720
the Historical Society.

1154
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:45,360
So,

1155
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,920
anyway, okay, I'll read this really

1156
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,040
boring thing because it nothing can say

1157
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,000
what you said because you said it from

1158
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960
the heart. And uh and that's really

1159
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840
wonderful. Thank you for that. Thank you

1160
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,760
for that.

1161
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,760
I'll have to take lessons. Thank you.

1162
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Every time I come here, I'm learning

1163
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,240
something.

1164
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,000
It's one of the things that everybody

1165
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,640
uh, for the opportunity to be here

1166
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,880
tonight.

1167
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,240
And, uh, we come before you again

1168
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,520
tonight to ask for your support. But, I

1169
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,320
want to begin by saying thank you

1170
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,280
because of what I just said.

1171
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Scholarships that we provide,

1172
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,760
the inquiring program,

1173
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,360
um, we assist, uh, the town in every way

1174
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,480
we can.

1175
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Uh, we're proud to be part of the

1176
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,280
Topfield uh, our mission is to collect,

1177
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,400
preserve, and promote the history of the

1178
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,280
greater Topfield area. And we work hard

1179
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,640
to make that history accessible to

1180
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,360
residents, visitors, and future

1181
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,280
generations.

1182
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Through the Missiles and More Museum,

1183
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,760
our programs, lectures, exhibits, and

1184
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,240
special events, we bring people into the

1185
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:49,560
community throughout the year.

1186
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,680
And those visitors don't just come to

1187
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,600
visit the museum.

1188
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,680
They eat at local restaurants,

1189
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,280
shop in local stores, and stay in local

1190
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,640
accommodations, and enjoy everything

1191
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,320
Topfield has to offer.

1192
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,880
So, while our purpose is preserving the

1193
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
history, we also believe we contribute

1194
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,240
to the economic and cultural vitality, sorry, vitality of the

1195
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:14,720
community.

1196
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,400
We also understand that the town does a

1197
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,680
great deal for us. We are fortunate to

1198
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440
operate in a community that values its

1199
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,000
history, and recognizes the importance

1200
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,480
of preserving it.

1201
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,520
We don't take that partnership for

1202
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,800
granted.

1203
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
As you have seen in the letter provided

1204
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,480
to the council, we are requesting the

1205
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,960
town continue its financial support for

1206
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,800
the coming year.

1207
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,720
That fund helps us provide programs,

1208
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,080
exhibits, educational opportunities. As

1209
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,200
I said, we, uh, this every year, we we,

1210
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,840
um,

1211
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,760
we award four scholarships. In this past

1212
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,280
year, I believe they amounted to $16,000

1213
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,120
and the year before as well.

1214
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,440
Uh, we're very proud of what the

1215
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Historical Society has accomplished,

1216
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
particularly particularly as we

1217
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,640
celebrate 40 years of serving Coastal

1218
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,680
Isle.

1219
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,640
But we also recognize that none of this

1220
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,840
happens alone. It takes the support of

1221
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,960
our volunteers, our members, our

1222
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,080
community partners, and the town of

1223
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Coastal Beach.

1224
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,360
On behalf of the the Historical Society

1225
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,280
of Coastal Isle, thank you for your past

1226
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440
support. Thank you for your partnership

1227
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,280
we have today.

1228
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,840
And we will thankfully ask for your

1229
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,600
continuous financial support in the

1230
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,840
coming year.

1231
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,840
We appreciate everything you do for us

1232
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,000
and for the community we all care so

1233
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,280
much about.

1234
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,160
Thank you very much. And does anybody

1235
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,200
have any questions?

1236
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,000
>> I do. Um

1237
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
now that I'm looking at this,

1238
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,360
I'm guessing the Autumn with Topsail is

1239
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,600
the largest fundraiser that y'all have.

1240
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,360
Is that correct?

1241
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,160
>> in the past, yes. It's changing this

1242
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,240
year. Oh, it's also

1243
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,640
Well, because of um the structure the

1244
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,840
changes made in structure. So, um the

1245
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,560
100 the most of it would be 100 um

1246
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,480
vendors in that area. I would imagine

1247
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,200
prior to that

1248
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,720
>> probably knows exactly how many.

1249
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,880
More than anybody. Are they having to

1250
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,480
cut it severely this year?

1251
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,680
>> Not not severely. I think we're

1252
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,720
down to like

1253
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:18,800
in the past

1254
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,240
>> Yeah.

1255
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:24,600
>> Um I know we're down maybe 20 vendors or

1256
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,680
something.

1257
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,640
>> I think that we're only going to be able

1258
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,280
to put vendors around the outside this

1259
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,280
time.

1260
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,720
Okay. So, that really cuts it down more

1261
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:33,720
than 20.

1262
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:36,320
>> No, we've identified additional spaces

1263
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,000
for 10 more vendors that

1264
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,400
>> Oh, that's good to hear. So, I'm a

1265
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,200
little worried.

1266
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640
>> It's one of the things that I don't know

1267
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,240
that we think about is what the town's

1268
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,280
the services they provide with Autumn

1269
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,960
with Topsail. Autumn with Topsail you

1270
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,400
may not know this, but my favorite

1271
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,320
weekend at Topsail it's fantastic, but

1272
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,120
do you have any idea what do we spend to

1273
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,960
support that in I guess fire police do

1274
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,880
we have to pay the outside agencies

1275
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,560
anything?

1276
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,000
>> Um we don't pay the outside agencies

1277
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,920
they do that under a mutual aid but we

1278
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,640
do provide them food and water and all

1279
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,920
of that we believe I've asked

1280
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,720
for those numbers it's generally around

1281
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,000
$500 for that but we do have to bring in

1282
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,360
additional staff for policing here in

1283
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,480
town and that usually typically runs

1284
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,960
about $5,000 for the total event.

1285
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,880
>> And then you this year we're giving them

1286
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,560
that lot over there correct?

1287
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,560
>> We are allowing them use of that for I

1288
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,710
believe the vendor parking.

1289
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:40,600
» I didn't know that.

1290
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,600
>> Do you know off the top of your head

1291
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,280
about how many spaces we have over

1292
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,520
there?

1293
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,183
>> I don't know about 18.

1294
00:48:49,193 --> 00:48:50,800
» [clears throat]

1295
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,240
>> I I want to say

1296
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,560
sure I recognize that the town's special

1297
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,800
relationship here with the Historical

1298
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Society is more than more intertwined

1299
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,120
than than most

1300
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,800
the town uses the assembly building Auto

1301
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Topsail uses empty lot parking lot extra

1302
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,440
police resources I would suggest in lieu

1303
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,760
of financial assistance we let the town

1304
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,480
manager and the president of the society

1305
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,280
come up with an equitable agreement

1306
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:25,150
regarding our needs and theirs.

1307
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,470
» Is anybody

1308
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,360
And I would like to recommend that we go

1309
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,800
back to what we gave in 23 and 24 just

1310
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,080
because we are giving

1311
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,920
so much in services and

1312
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,680
Historical Society is near and dear to

1313
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,440
my heart my mom was involved in the

1314
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,120
start of that and worked with the

1315
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Fort Fisher program and to be really too

1316
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,120
old to be doing that so it's something

1317
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,400
that's near and dear to me, but I think

1318
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,120
y'all aren't in the financial struggle

1319
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,400
today that you were 10 years ago. You

1320
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,920
may be 10 years from now. We need to

1321
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,840
re-evaluate, but the town is right now,

1322
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,520
we got a lot on our plates, and we're

1323
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,720
trying hard to juggle that with the tax

1324
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,880
rate. So, I'd make a motion that we

1325
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,600
provide 5,000 and continue with the

1326
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,320
services we're providing with Dolly

1327
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,720
Madison

1328
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,080
and the parking lot.

1329
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,800
>> There is a motion.

1330
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,280
>> Second.

1331
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,320
>> Is there a motion?

1332
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,480
>> Second.

1333
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,190
Any further discussion?

1334
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,920
Everybody vote. All in favor?

1335
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,030
>> Aye.

1336
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,320
» Three to two. Passes. You find those.

1337
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,960
>> I think I like to say that the

1338
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,280
historical society is near and dear to

1339
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,320
my family's heart, and we do support

1340
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
them financially, and we'll continue.

1341
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,920
And as of tonight, we will also

1342
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,920
I

1343
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,320
support that financially as well.

1344
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,840
>> Thank you, Mr.

1345
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,320
>> It's just a personal

1346
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,040
decision, not a town decision.

1347
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,760
>> Yeah.

1348
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,840
>> Well, thank you all very much.

1349
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,750
>> Thank you.

1350
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,880
» Item number 11, parks and recreation

1351
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640
with council. Any report?

1352
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:26,070
Okay, planning board.

1353
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,520
» Good evening.

1354
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,440
I'm going to talk about the objectives

1355
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,440
of the planning board.

1356
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Um at our last meeting, we reviewed the

1357
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,000
proposed wireless communication

1358
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,760
structure and number that was presented

1359
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,480
to us. Talk or actively about some of

1360
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,160
the power and infrastructure that we may

1361
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,240
have to deal with in the town.

1362
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:45,880
Um

1363
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,640
because state and federal law provides

1364
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,120
with the appointment of violence and

1365
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,440
infrastructure, the purpose is to make

1366
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,640
sure that the town has clear standards

1367
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,880
in place governing the location and the

1368
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,320
design of these facilities. Most

1369
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,320
importantly, to be consistent with the

1370
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,600
law, but also protecting the character

1371
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,120
of our community.

1372
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,840
Much of our discussion focused on

1373
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,160
identifying inconsistencies and areas

1374
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,360
where the language can be clarified, and

1375
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,160
our goal is simply to make sure the

1376
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,480
ordinance is clear, that it's objective,

1377
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,680
that it's enforceable, and that the

1378
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,840
applicants understand what's expected so

1379
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,080
that town staff can administer it

1380
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,360
consistently without unnecessary gray

1381
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,520
areas. So, we found

1382
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,720
some revisions we asked the staff to

1383
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,560
type back in May. We will be bringing

1384
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,560
the amended language back

1385
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,520
hopefully to you at the next meeting.

1386
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
We'll review changes and assuming that

1387
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,800
our concerns have been addressed, we

1388
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,880
will be back in a position to bring a

1389
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,080
recommendation to the ordinance. So.

1390
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,680
Any questions?

1391
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
>> Thank you, Zane. Glad to hear that.

1392
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Thank

1393
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:56,121
>> Thank you.

1394
00:52:56,131 --> 00:53:01,350
» [laughter]

1395
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,760
» The report. I've been doing them

1396
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,920
for 15 years and she and I had a

1397
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,320
conversation and

1398
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,320
I asked her if she would send me a paper

1399
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,480
and she gladly said yes. So,

1400
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,680
very gracious. Um, also very

1401
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,880
appreciative of Dev.

1402
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,200
>> Thanks, Dev.

1403
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,240
>> Okay.

1404
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:19,440
>> Um, and community development can start

1405
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,760
reading.

1406
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,440
>> I can go over the college instead of

1407
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,440
just me, the greenway.

1408
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
But, I did want to bring to you guys

1409
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,480
I've started working on the flood damage

1410
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,000
prevention ordinance and I'm on page

1411
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,280
the new 2026 model ordinance for flood

1412
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,760
inspecting and I have a significant

1413
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,120
amount of required language that our

1414
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400
ordinance does not contain. We have not

1415
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,880
adopted a significant ordinance since

1416
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160
ordinance changes since 2013 and not

1417
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,520
having this language could decrease

1418
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,720
property owners flood insurance discount

1419
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,760
to currently 20%

1420
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,040
and put the town in a flood plain

1421
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,360
writing and standing in jeopardy.

1422
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,760
Considering the last update the

1423
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,240
proposals have been tabled by the board

1424
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:02,120
since 2022.

1425
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,880
We will be requesting that the board

1426
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,840
send this back to staff so that we can

1427
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,400
begin the process through the planning

1428
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,390
board once it's complete.

1429
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,320
» Good morning. I understand the request

1430
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,200
to that.

1431
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,120
>> Send it back to

1432
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,760
>> Do we need to make a motion to

1433
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,560
>> We need a motion to

1434
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,320
>> Yeah, and I'm not completely finished

1435
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,680
with it yet. I've done the majority of

1436
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,480
the changes. I just need to review the

1437
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,600
changes that we have made through the

1438
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,440
years to make sure that everything's

1439
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,600
consistent and what's already there is

1440
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,680
there.

1441
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,240
Um I have reviewed

1442
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:38,080
the public comments that we received

1443
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,040
at both the several times that we met um

1444
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,560
and address those concerns. If it was

1445
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,280
recommended language and not required

1446
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,200
language, I have not included it. That

1447
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,680
was one of the things that we talked

1448
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,400
about that, you know, everybody

1449
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,960
expressly said they didn't want.

1450
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Everything that's already there will

1451
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,160
stay there um

1452
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,080
for the time being. And then like I

1453
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,160
said, all the required language has been

1454
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,400
added. It'll

1455
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,400
be clearly defined what's required and

1456
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,200
what is recommended.

1457
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,910
So.

1458
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,840
» Can we get a copy of

1459
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,800
all of it? That's been quite a while.

1460
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
We've had many many crises since then.

1461
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840
Could you send us back the language what

1462
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,920
you're recommending so while the

1463
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,720
planning board's looking at it, we can

1464
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,320
get back up to speed on it?

1465
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,560
>> Yes, once I get done comparing it to our

1466
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,160
ordinance, I've got it.

1467
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,960
Um I will You guys can get a copy of it

1468
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,160
so that you can start running through

1469
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,280
it. And like I said, it'll be

1470
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,520
one color for required, one color for

1471
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,000
recommended

1472
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,800
and all of that. But, like I said, I've

1473
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,200
not included the language that was very

1474
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,440
expressly denied

1475
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
by the board and

1476
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,440
>> Um but that was that was that that was

1477
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,800
recommended they or was that just likely

1478
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,520
what we're looking at? As I recall is

1479
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,080
you couldn't have more than 100

1480
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,000
condition they on the ground level and

1481
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,840
anything on the ground level

1482
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,000
>> That was recommended like I believe we

1483
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,320
took that out.

1484
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,360
>> I know we took that out. But, was that

1485
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,720
recommended by FEMA or federal?

1486
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,480
>> FEMA itself.

1487
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,800
>> Okay. Well, okay. So, we have the right

1488
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,000
to say sorry FEMA we

1489
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,080
>> Yeah, recommended we can say

1490
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,960
>> Cuz I think that they were

1491
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,400
putting us in a really difficult

1492
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,960
position as far as what those people

1493
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,520
down here already have.

1494
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,320
>> Yeah. So, but we are we are very behind.

1495
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,200
And I hope that if the mayor of Detroit

1496
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,240
comes and joins us and takes a look, we

1497
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,520
can get him in control. But, I'd like

1498
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,320
to go ahead and take care of

1499
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,360
>> So, it could

1500
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,920
Steve, this is a very quick question.

1501
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,680
There are a lot of things here

1502
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,360
we talked about

1503
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,520
the situations you can deal with.

1504
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,600
Paramount, a good number of them

1505
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,480
are some of the things within the FEMA

1506
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,280
guidelines that reduces the allowed

1507
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,120
density in certain areas that otherwise

1508
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,160
would be allowed by FEMA zoning. They

1509
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,480
would render certain properties as

1510
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,120
non-conforming.

1511
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Do you know whether or not any of the

1512
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,000
required language would have that

1513
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,840
impact? The reason why I bring it up is

1514
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,480
that it then puts you in a catch-22. You

1515
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,480
want to comply with these federal

1516
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,960
guidelines, but then you would also be

1517
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,120
in violation of the prohibition against

1518
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,880
downzoning legislature has imposed on

1519
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,720
us.

1520
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,880
So, I just I don't want to add to your

1521
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,080
work.

1522
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,480
I don't want to add to the complexity of

1523
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,640
what you're doing already, but

1524
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,360
unfortunately it is complex.

1525
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,000
>> Right. And this This released after the

1526
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,920
downzoning and everything else. So, I'm

1527
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,160
sure some of that language has been

1528
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,720
adjusted. I will reach out to him

1529
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,760
um and make sure that we are covered in

1530
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,280
that.

1531
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,720
>> Yeah, it's not like we have large tracts

1532
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,680
of land we're concerned about current

1533
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,920
zoning, but

1534
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,920
in fact it's there. Would be river

1535
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,040
certain properties as

1536
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,280
the board is

1537
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,320
>> It would have been good of us to have

1538
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,120
him review it before we send it to the

1539
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,240
planning board.

1540
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,880
>> So, it also would be good that we aren't

1541
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,440
doing something that's going to come

1542
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,520
back and bite us that we don't see from

1543
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:01,840
a legal standpoint.

1544
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,360
>> It will also be sent to our local FEMA

1545
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,200
rep.

1546
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,720
>> Okay.

1547
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,000
>> So, that she can review it as well. Make

1548
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,320
sure.

1549
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,200
>> What can we um

1550
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,840
>> Well, he has to. I don't have authority

1551
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,800
to. He has to see it before we

1552
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,680
>> Before we send it to her, let let Steve

1553
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,120
go through it

1554
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,440
and see if there's anything in there

1555
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,280
that could trip us up. I don't know if

1556
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,640
we need a motion to send it back

1557
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,920
to you or not or not just go ahead and

1558
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,520
we have to make these

1559
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,920
amendments to it.

1560
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,160
>> Being that we tabled it, I would feel

1561
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,960
more comfortable if you guys made a

1562
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:35,640
motion

1563
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:35,920
>> Okay.

1564
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,480
>> to send it back.

1565
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,880
>> Do we make a motion to send it to Mr.

1566
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,280
Coggins and once he's reviewed it,

1567
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,000
provide his comments and then send it

1568
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:44,480
back to you?

1569
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,080
>> me first so I can finish it.

1570
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,960
>> He can send it back, right.

1571
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,800
>> Can he send it back to you, you finish

1572
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,040
it and then you send it to him and then

1573
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,680
>> I mean, I think it would be easier than

1574
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,600
a three-step process if I finish it and

1575
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,520
then send it to him and then he gives me

1576
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,240
comments and then

1577
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Okay, then it goes to the planning

1578
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,000
>> But then it

1579
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,240
>> Look at it from a board of planning

1580
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,880
board.

1581
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,520
Yeah.

1582
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,640
>> Is there a motion?

1583
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,865
>> That's That was a motion. You got that.

1584
00:59:06,865 --> 00:59:07,600
>> [laughter]

1585
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,160
>> Is there a motion and a second?

1586
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,920
>> I'll repeat it.

1587
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,080
>> Um

1588
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:12,880
All in favor?

1589
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,360
>> Aye.

1590
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:14,800
>> Thank you.

1591
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,840
>> Okay.

1592
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,560
>> Can say uh that Riceville Beach has

1593
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,200
spent a ton of time on these issues.

1594
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,960
Um

1595
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,840
and they're more than willing to share

1596
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,440
with us

1597
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,200
what they've been through and what their

1598
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,440
recommendations are. That

1599
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,990
seems helpful.

1600
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,400
» You got the opening yet?

1601
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:37,920
>> Yeah.

1602
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,000
>> Immediately it's great.

1603
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,390
>> Good then.

1604
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,600
» If they

1605
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,720
the IAS, there was not a meeting or do

1606
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,240
you have

1607
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,080
>> I have a couple of things.

1608
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,840
>> Okay.

1609
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,830
As always I'll be brief.

1610
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Um now um

1611
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,320
we are going to have a meeting tomorrow.

1612
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,270
We didn't have one last week.

1613
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,000
And there's a couple of things I want to

1614
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,600
bring to your attention. At the end of

1615
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,440
our fiscal year

1616
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,800
um the IAS fund had 9.2 million.

1617
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320
Uh we started the fiscal year at 6.2 so

1618
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,720
the gain

1619
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,200
was 3 million which pushes, thanks to

1620
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,560
you guys,

1621
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,680
uh pushes us on target for having 12

1622
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,960
million next year when we have our next

1623
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,280
project.

1624
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,760
Uh our project will be in the fall of

1625
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,480
'27 going into '28. Family Matters

1626
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,000
project.

1627
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,800
Probably get a $25 million project that

1628
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,760
we need to be positioned

1629
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,000
to ask for it and to get it done and

1630
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,000
then be in a position for any sort of

1631
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,280
emergency. So really thanks to you guys

1632
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,760
for having the foresight to keep that

1633
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,880
going.

1634
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,360
Um

1635
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,560
the other thing is that we've had a

1636
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,840
water management task team and we Last

1637
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,880
time we met was on July the 20th.

1638
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,080
Uh we've reviewed all the information

1639
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,000
that we put together through the Adorno

1640
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,160
study.

1641
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Um we've taken a tour looking at some of

1642
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,240
the outfalls that are backing up.

1643
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,360
The water.

1644
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,400
Um our own mayor is helping further the

1645
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,080
cause on Rocky Mount and doing some

1646
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,920
survey work on that.

1647
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,840
We're trying to get it into a bundle so

1648
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,360
that we know

1649
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,520
for

1650
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,200
water importation, this is a project we

1651
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,600
need. For title backup, this is a

1652
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,960
project we need. And pull together all

1653
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,800
of this in terms of what the funding

1654
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,520
will be required, so we're pushing this

1655
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,040
down the road a little bit.

1656
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Um

1657
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,960
the other thing is that uh switching

1658
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,240
gears here a little bit, TI Coastal has

1659
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,080
collected all the pre-storm,

1660
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,520
pre-hurricane season data.

1661
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Um they haven't processed it all, but we

1662
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,880
should be in within a week or so of

1663
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,680
having new contour maps for the sound

1664
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,440
and also on the beach, so that we know

1665
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,520
how much sand we had in the beach

1666
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,320
before any potential hurricane.

1667
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,040
So, if we lose sand, we know how much

1668
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,400
we've lost and what the value is. So,

1669
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,200
we're making progress on that. And the

1670
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,360
last thing I do want to report is the uh

1671
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,920
TISPC next meeting is on August the

1672
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,440
27th, but there's a big signing ceremony

1673
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,000
at Surf City on Monday.

1674
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,000
Um Surf City has been pursuing a 50-year

1675
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,440
coastal storm damage mitigation project

1676
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,680
for 20 years. And they are just on

1677
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,240
Monday in a position to sign a

1678
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,760
project partnership agreement.

1679
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,080
But this is significant to us, too,

1680
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,840
because we are putting sand on the

1681
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,000
beach, we know we have a north-to-south

1682
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,400
lateral flow of sand.

1683
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,200
By them now having a 50-year project,

1684
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,160
it's probably going to be 6 million

1685
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,880
cubic yards.

1686
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,080
It's going to help this whole island.

1687
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,120
And so, I would invite you guys to come

1688
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,920
on Monday at 10:00 to help Surf City

1689
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,680
celebrate this milestone event. Uh it's

1690
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,440
going to help us all in the end. Um

1691
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,920
I think that's all I got.

1692
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,640
Thank you very much for your time. Any

1693
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,640
questions?

1694
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,520
>> I would like to ask everyone in this

1695
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,840
room to share with

1696
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,360
your friends and neighbors and

1697
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,760
uh anyone that's interested in what's

1698
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,520
going on that our new water management

1699
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,240
task force is is working extremely well

1700
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,840
with BIS and with our board.

1701
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Real work's being done and

1702
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,400
we're going to get real answers and real

1703
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,240
projects going

1704
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,400
for

1705
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,440
flood mitigation that

1706
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,640
comes with king tides and all that.

1707
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,600
We're Y'all are doing great work and

1708
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,320
things are happening. So, we're not

1709
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,760
kicking the can down the road.

1710
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,480
>> Thank you for that and I do want to

1711
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,920
recognize Tom Herrick in public works.

1712
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,000
Those people are opening the doors.

1713
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,120
They're working with us. They're excited

1714
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,800
about moving forward. So, thank Tom.

1715
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280
And I think we'll make a little comment.

1716
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,720
>> Good.

1717
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:48,520
>> I had a question.

1718
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,920
>> Yes. So, so I have It sounds like Surf

1719
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,640
City may be starting their project.

1720
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,120
We're doing our

1721
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,560
renourishment in a year and a half. Will

1722
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,040
that have any impact on us? I don't know

1723
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,880
if the ICW coastal is involved with

1724
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Will they be getting sand from anywhere

1725
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,240
we are getting sand from?

1726
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,320
>> Uh they're They're a 50-year project.

1727
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,080
All the sand is coming offshore on the

1728
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,320
hopper dredge.

1729
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,600
And the offshore borrow site is off of

1730
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,680
Leon.

1731
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,200
So, [clears throat] they're going to

1732
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,840
transport it all the way up there. That

1733
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,200
sucks.

1734
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,240
Um

1735
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,320
whether that's going to have

1736
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,280
implications for us down the road,

1737
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,520
I don't know.

1738
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,760
Um but adding more sand inventory into

1739
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,080
the system

1740
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:31,920
will have some impact.

1741
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,480
>> And then we'll get that sand eventually,

1742
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,200
right?

1743
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,024
>> Eventually.

1744
01:04:35,024 --> 01:04:35,840
>> [laughter]

1745
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,440
>> Yes. Um but it's but it's really good

1746
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,240
>> The gift that keeps giving us.

1747
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,240
>> It's really good for the entire island

1748
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,400
because as we all know

1749
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,560
you believe in um

1750
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,520
storms I mean uh

1751
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,080
storm water rise

1752
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,560
and if you believe in

1753
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,320
hurricanes and bigger storms,

1754
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,160
this resiliency is what's going to keep

1755
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,800
us together in the future.

1756
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,080
>> Mr. Mayor, we had

1757
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,000
I have a short question.

1758
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,640
>> Thank you again. I I just received an

1759
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,920
invitation that's coming within the next

1760
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,520
couple of weeks on a ceremony that's

1761
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,920
going to be at Surf City.

1762
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,000
uh

1763
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,880
>> that acknowledges their signing on with

1764
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,200
Corps of Engineers for 50 year of being

1765
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,520
of age coastal resilience

1766
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,480
plan.

1767
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,440
And I was wondering if uh your committee

1768
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,480
has discussed the potential impacts that

1769
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,440
would have on future projects on the

1770
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,160
table.

1771
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,880
I foresee this uh

1772
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,280
only possible way to be sharing costs

1773
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,920
doing projects all at the same time to

1774
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,640
leverage the economies of scale and also

1775
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,800
how it impact our current sands. Excuse

1776
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,320
me.

1777
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,200
>> I would say that all that is on the

1778
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,280
table.

1779
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,400
Um but right now we are dealing with the

1780
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,200
world we've been living in.

1781
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,080
Three years down the road when we

1782
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,360
contemplate those

1783
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,040
impacts,

1784
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,720
we'll have a chance to reevaluate that.

1785
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:04,360
It might be with more sand in in the in the system

1786
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,840
that you have more frequent clean outs.

1787
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,880
how

1788
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,320
do we share that burden and how do we

1789
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,520
distribute the sand

1790
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,960
on the island?

1791
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,600
I mean we've got

1792
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,280
>> More sand in the system, what does that

1793
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,320
mean? How does that happen?

1794
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,480
>> Well, the sand that that is coming in

1795
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,000
with a coastal storm damage mitigation

1796
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,480
project

1797
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,800
is being borrowed offshore and brought

1798
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,400
onshore.

1799
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,520
What we've been doing is taking sand out

1800
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,240
of the inlet

1801
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,600
and putting it on the shore. So

1802
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,240
>> Oh, I know Surf City's kind of already

1803
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,910
using that source as well.

1804
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,960
» I don't know one said anything official

1805
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,600
about that, but

1806
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,680
maybe I'll be around BIS three years and

1807
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,800
we get to talk about that.

1808
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,720
But it's a it's great great thing. It's

1809
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,360
a it it could open up a different

1810
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,870
scenario.

1811
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,800
I can tell you one thing.

1812
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,000
In 1976,

1813
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,560
my family in Sandbridge, Virginia had

1814
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,280
bulkhead on the ocean.

1815
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,880
1982, they got a 50-year CSDM project

1816
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,480
and that bulkhead is under 12 ft of

1817
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,560
sand.

1818
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,600
That's the implication.

1819
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:15,520
>> Where was that?

1820
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,480
>> In Sandbridge Beach, Virginia. All the

1821
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,360
north end properties.

1822
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,400
About a mile and a half of bulkheaded on

1823
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,160
the ocean.

1824
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,510
And that's all back.

1825
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,760
» Any further questions?

1826
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,840
Thank you, Wayne.

1827
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,590
Thank you, Mr.

1828
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,680
Um

1829
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,960
what day is on the public safety

1830
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,880
building?

1831
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:39,960
>> Yeah.

1832
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,040
So, we are now meeting every 2 weeks.

1833
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,440
And we actually just had a meeting this

1834
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,360
morning, so this is all hot off the

1835
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,280
press.

1836
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,160
And it appears that we have pretty much

1837
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,440
everything we need for to issue a

1838
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:53,920
building permit.

1839
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,000
The plans are with the contracted

1840
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,080
building inspector now. He is reviewing

1841
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,560
them, so

1842
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,560
we anticipate being able to issue our

1843
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,720
building permit here shortly for the

1844
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,400
project. Thomas Construction has started

1845
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,400
to prepare the tower to be used as their

1846
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,160
construction office, their on-site

1847
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,200
construction office

1848
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,200
as the construction happens.

1849
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,960
DOT permit has been submitted on July

1850
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,520
20th and they have 30 days to turn that

1851
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:23,960
around. So,

1852
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,400
right now we're just waiting on that

1853
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,040
one. But the big permit that we're

1854
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,680
waiting for is our DEQ permit. We had

1855
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,400
previously submitted that. They had some

1856
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,000
comments regarding the storm water

1857
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,600
system. We made the changes that they

1858
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,799
wanted that they requested and we've

1859
01:08:39,799 --> 01:08:43,080
actually sent that back in on July 22nd.

1860
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,640
Although they didn't actually um

1861
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,880
I guess formally accept it until August

1862
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,359
3rd. Um we are using the quick

1863
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,640
permitting option, but so is everybody

1864
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,752
else, so

1865
01:08:53,752 --> 01:08:54,240
>> [laughter]

1866
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,920
>> I don't know how quick that will

1867
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,720
actually be.

1868
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,759
But we don't expect any additional

1869
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:01,000
comments being they've already had their

1870
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,440
one pass at it. We we that they'll won't

1871
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:05,319
be able to issue it without any um any

1872
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:08,200
further changes or modifications.

1873
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,120
Um so we're hoping to have that permit

1874
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,600
to us around Labor Day

1875
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,400
time frame is what we're looking at. So

1876
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,839
right now the target date to begin

1877
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:18,720
construction is September 14th.

1878
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,000
Um but again that's all subject really

1879
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,799
on the DEQ permit. Um we we do have to

1880
01:09:23,799 --> 01:09:26,400
hold off for that.

1881
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,640
So that's where we are right now.

1882
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,680
>> I'm good. Well I hope we finally get

1883
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,240
moving.

1884
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,520
>> Well we're at the finish line.

1885
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,160
>> All right.

1886
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,638
>> We have about today.

1887
01:09:37,638 --> 01:09:38,080
>> [laughter]

1888
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,680
>> Yeah we are talking about a ground break

1889
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,120
ground breaking ceremony so we're hoping

1890
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,319
to finalize those details and we'll have

1891
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:50,309
that information out to the public.

1892
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:52,040
» Very thanks.

1893
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,040
I'm sitting here just considering vote

1894
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,680
on noise ordinance.

1895
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,640
>> Yes.

1896
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,560
>> All right. So we've been discussing this

1897
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,160
for a couple of months obviously based

1898
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,440
on some public comments. Staff was

1899
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,960
directed to kind of go back to our

1900
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,280
current noise ordinance and try to see

1901
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,320
if we can address the comments which

1902
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,120
really initially were um

1903
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,920
the decibel level is is set too high um

1904
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,240
and the time at which the decibel level

1905
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,000
could be elevated was too late. So um we

1906
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,200
had

1907
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,000
staff to come back I think at the

1908
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,120
June meeting in order to bring some of

1909
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,440
those amendments to you. Um after

1910
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:34,040
further discussion at that meeting that

1911
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,560
was also asked that we try to look at

1912
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,480
how we can address the base frequency

1913
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:41,880
that low level frequency that isn't

1914
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,040
necessarily captured with um with the

1915
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,000
way that the ordinance is written today.

1916
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,920
And I have found out a lot more about

1917
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,000
noise than I ever want to know but um

1918
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:52,308
uh

1919
01:10:52,308 --> 01:10:53,000
>> [laughter]

1920
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,400
>> basically I guess we'll I'll kind of try

1921
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,320
to

1922
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,560
tell you what I figured out. Um,

1923
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,280
we have a noise uh

1924
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,960
um measuring instrument. That noise

1925
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,160
measuring instrument can measure

1926
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,160
different types of of sounds. We have

1927
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,680
the uh A weighting scale, which is what

1928
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,600
we've been using. Um, and that basically

1929
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,600
will measure the sound that sort of

1930
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,840
matches how the human ear hears it. And

1931
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,000
then there's a C weighting scale, and

1932
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,800
this is the one that um basically

1933
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,760
measures that lower level bass

1934
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,440
frequency. So, um I thankfully I've been

1935
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,520
able to work with Oh, where did he go?

1936
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,480
Chief Lou Ellen.

1937
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:37,880
He has been very instrumental in this um

1938
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,800
in and trying to uh look up information.

1939
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,600
He found that the scale that we have,

1940
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,720
the noise metering system that we have,

1941
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,400
can do both A and C.

1942
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,320
So, what we did was we added those

1943
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,760
definitions. Um, you'll see them in red

1944
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,640
in your packet.

1945
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,160
And then we also um

1946
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,120
changed or added, I should say, some of

1947
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,240
the decibel levels for the C rating.

1948
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,920
Now, I will tell you that I'm not a

1949
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,000
noise

1950
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,800
expert. I don't know, you know, I'm I'm

1951
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,200
sort of just

1952
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,920
giving it my best shot here. Um, I did a

1953
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,080
lot of digging into see what other

1954
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,120
ordinances had. Um, I can tell you right

1955
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,240
now that having a C-rated

1956
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,240
decibel weighting um is not common at

1957
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,480
all, certainly not at a beach community.

1958
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,040
Um, the only three ordinances that I

1959
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,600
found, not saying this is it, but the

1960
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,680
only three I found is the bigger town,

1961
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,120
the bigger communities, uh Raleigh,

1962
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,040
Greensboro, and Charlotte.

1963
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,080
I chose Raleigh. I looked at theirs, and

1964
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,560
the only reason I thought was because I

1965
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,560
had found a memo that they hired a sound

1966
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,630
specialist.

1967
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,360
I figured if if the sound specialist

1968
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,000
suggested it, then that's probably where

1969
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,640
we should at least start.

1970
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,080
Um so that is and also not only that,

1971
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,400
but it was already in line with what we

1972
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,680
had proposed. So anyways, this is really

1973
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,200
just my best guess. Um I would like to

1974
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,240
Chief Llewellyn and I had talked about

1975
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,240
the possibility of um the next time that

1976
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,560
there's some sort of a a a event, a

1977
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,480
band, or anything like that to do some

1978
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:19,840
tests so we can see kind of where it

1979
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,480
does fall in line with what we're

1980
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:24,800
proposing. Um we are towards the end of

1981
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,960
the season as Susan pointed out. I you

1982
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,800
know, personally I would ask I would

1983
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,080
like to see us be able to look at this a

1984
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,760
little bit further, maybe do some

1985
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,600
testing before we adopt it. But um we

1986
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,600
certainly have that option to adopt

1987
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,080
tonight and then we can always make

1988
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,960
adjustments later if that's how you you

1989
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,080
want to go. So

1990
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,320
that's where we're at.

1991
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,560
>> We've got the concert in the park in

1992
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,480
a week. How could we use it then and

1993
01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:52,600
just see?

1994
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:53,440
>> Absolutely.

1995
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,000
>> Yeah.

1996
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,640
And again, just to kind of see

1997
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,680
where where where it falls with what we

1998
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,000
have proposed cuz I truly don't know

1999
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,840
what that's going to sound like.

2000
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,960
>> Common sense says what Danny Arnold said

2001
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,720
is correct. If you have your speakers

2002
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,720
facing out like that

2003
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,120
versus facing in, it's going to have a

2004
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,560
big impact on the sound and I said it

2005
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,080
before.

2006
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,480
I was stunned at how loud and it's not

2007
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:23,120
even the loud, the bump bump of that

2008
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,880
bass is at 10:00 at night.

2009
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,550
It'd make me crazy.

2010
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,200
It's very similar to the sound when

2011
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,840
they're putting in pilings at a house

2012
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:35,760
right beside you.

2013
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,960
>> I understand.

2014
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,000
And I do want to say that I did reach

2015
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,840
out to the local businesses to let them

2016
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,640
know that this was on the agenda that

2017
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:48,280
was going to be discussed and I um you them to either attend um or send in

2018
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,560
any kind of comments that they have.

2019
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,560
So, I did make them aware that it was

2020
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,040
being discussed this evening.

2021
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,920
>> And there were [clears throat] no examples

2022
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,680
of

2023
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,280
the difference between um

2024
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,320
A and C in terms of decibels?

2025
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,640
Well, you gave the examples

2026
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,840
of what you would hear.

2027
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,320
>> Mhm.

2028
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,360
>> Uh but that that covers just the

2029
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,800
>> Just the the A.

2030
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:12,600
>> That's just the A.

2031
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,200
>> That's correct. You're right.

2032
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,120
Again, it was very difficult to find a

2033
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,920
lot on the C weighted decibel system. It

2034
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,120
just was. Um

2035
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,600
So, but you know, again, that's just my

2036
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,720
research. Um I think that's why I would

2037
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,240
prefer instead again, I would prefer

2038
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,000
that maybe we hold off on actual

2039
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,040
adoption until we can do some tests to

2040
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,080
see how close we are with what we're

2041
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,480
proposing.

2042
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:41,120
>> And we have the ability to read C C

2043
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:41,480
weight?

2044
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:43,680
>> We do. Yes. Yeah, like I said,

2045
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,120
thankfully, um

2046
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,320
people elements have been very

2047
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,320
instrumental in in helping with this

2048
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,200
ordinance, and also um the capabilities

2049
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,080
of the instrument that we have.

2050
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,360
>> I'm concerned about the A and the D

2051
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,160
decibel C level.

2052
01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,920
Um

2053
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,920
and what about at night?

2054
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,440
>> This

2055
01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:03,760
>> Yeah.

2056
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,200
>> You think it would if it carries through

2057
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,760
from C to A, you know, it

2058
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,720
A to C, that that'd be tough.

2059
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,440
>> Yeah, and it is different. Um it's not

2060
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,680
So, 60 uh

2061
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:21,040
DBAs and 60 DBCs are very different. Um

2062
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,280
but, you know, again, I I

2063
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,040
from what my research is, um from what I

2064
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,760
can tell, the C's, there's a filter on

2065
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,760
the sound meter, they apply some sort of

2066
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,080
a filter that kind of makes it more of a

2067
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,160
uh even flow

2068
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,720
of [clears throat] sound,

2069
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,240
um rather than the the sharp

2070
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,640
ups and downs that your hearing there's

2071
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,040
traditionally.

2072
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,680
So, again,

2073
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,000
>> I was wondering if you'd say average is

2074
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,520
out

2075
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,040
high and low in a thump thump thump

2076
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:53,600
>> thump

2077
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,120
>> Yeah, there's a filter. Apparently,

2078
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,600
there's some sort of filter that's

2079
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,600
applied um that that helps to even out

2080
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,720
the sound and it does I I don't know if

2081
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,480
it how it how it measures that thump, but it evens out the sound.

2082
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:08,920
>> All right. Now, we got to

2083
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,720
go over there. I think I really teach it

2084
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,760
an improvement in what people perceive.

2085
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,040
>> I Again, I I would agree with you and it that's the reason why I think

2086
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,920
that we still need a little bit more

2087
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,960
research and maybe some field work

2088
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,280
before before this is adopted in my

2089
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,040
opinion.

2090
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,520
>> But, you you mentioned that you used

2091
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,320
Raleigh as the basis. Is there's Is that

2092
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,920
where that 83 come from?

2093
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,320
>> It is, but the reason why I

2094
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,520
agree that, you know, Raleigh is a whole

2095
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,000
different place than here, but the

2096
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,400
reason why I did that was because their

2097
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,960
DBAs were already very similar to our

2098
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,880
DBAs.

2099
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,680
>> But, we're comparing our DBs our C's

2100
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,320
being higher.

2101
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,760
>> But, that's how it's Again, I'm not a

2102
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,960
noise ordinance, but that's our expert,

2103
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,680
but that's sort of how it is. The A's

2104
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,160
are typically in the ones I've seen, the

2105
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,360
A's are lower than the C's.

2106
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,280
>> Which constitutes

2107
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,520
>> I Again, field testing.

2108
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,800
>> I don't want to misinterpret your

2109
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,680
research. I mean, when you said you

2110
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,680
read Raleigh's ordinance, that was

2111
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,560
exciting to me. I have used that word a

2112
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,080
lot tonight, but

2113
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,000
um

2114
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,040
Do we agree that it's more important for

2115
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,720
a small town

2116
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,000
to get

2117
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,920
the noise issues right than it is

2118
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,760
a really large

2119
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,480
metropolitan city. I mean,

2120
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:35,960
Raleigh

2121
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,120
you know, there's more than a million

2122
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,080
people in there today now. Um

2123
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,600
They're more complex. Their issues are

2124
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,080
more complex. A million to

2125
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,240
>> Oh, I would agree. I have no question.

2126
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,240
>> But

2127
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,840
I mean, just common sense tells me it's

2128
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,160
more important

2129
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,480
for the small town

2130
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:53,920
to get the noise ordinance right than it

2131
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,560
is noisy volume.

2132
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:55,920
>> Yeah.

2133
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,840
>> Does that make sense or

2134
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,360
>> It does make sense. Um it just doesn't

2135
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,560
seem that the DBC

2136
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,960
is addressed in

2137
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,040
>> Cuz we're not sophisticated

2138
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,360
>> noise ordinances.

2139
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,280
>> in these really small towns to get to

2140
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,400
those issues.

2141
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,480
>> Well, we're getting there. I'll tell you

2142
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:11,760
that.

2143
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,079
>> So

2144
01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:12,560
>> [laughter]

2145
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:13,720
>> I don't

2146
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,480
>> But what we're proposing is higher, it

2147
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:17,720
looks like, than what they have in

2148
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,120
Raleigh.

2149
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:20,520
>> DB

2150
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,560
>> So to me

2151
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,200
the easier thing would be to

2152
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,760
lower to where they are. They're at 70

2153
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,110
and 75.

2154
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,040
From 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Sunday

2155
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,840
through Thursday.

2156
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,200
And to 11:00. So they're the same during

2157
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,600
the week as the weekend, correct?

2158
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,105
>> Yes.

2159
01:19:48,105 --> 01:19:49,320
>> [clears throat]

2160
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,400
>> So we're

2161
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,360
>> We could also, you know, make some

2162
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,640
amendments here

2163
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,880
>> And that's what I'm going to say. I

2164
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,760
would much rather

2165
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,800
make them overly low

2166
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,040
and come back and raise them than to

2167
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,960
approve it and it's still

2168
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,680
be as loud and obnoxious as it's been

2169
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,120
cuz it's easier, I think, to bump them

2170
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,560
back up

2171
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,040
than to

2172
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,040
dial them back down.

2173
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,200
>> Sure. And and we also have Labor Day

2174
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,080
coming up, so that might be a time at

2175
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,720
which, you know, there'll be some bands

2176
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,640
that we can do some more field testing

2177
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,840
with.

2178
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,640
>> I'd like to make a comment that

2179
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,280
piggybacks on what Commissioner Best

2180
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,280
said

2181
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,640
in relation to us versus Raleigh.

2182
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,000
I kind of doubt that there are people

2183
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,320
living in the commercial districts in a

2184
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,720
big town.

2185
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,120
Whereas we have residents living above

2186
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,640
their businesses. It's a I almost wonder

2187
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,880
if we should just have one ordinance for

2188
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,160
the entire town because there's no area

2189
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,360
where there people don't live.

2190
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,040
They they live in the commercial

2191
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,720
district. And the sound impacts them the

2192
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,240
same as it does the people in the

2193
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,280
residential district.

2194
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,640
I

2195
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,400
>> Conversation

2196
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,720
>> a big difference between us and

2197
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,080
bigger towns.

2198
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,520
Where commercial districts I think

2199
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,360
residences are prohibited. There's zone

2200
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,280
you cannot stay in a you can't you know

2201
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,720
live in a resi- a commercial district. I

2202
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,960
think

2203
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,200
um or

2204
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,920
Yeah.

2205
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,000
So that's something I do we we might

2206
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,040
want to consider is just having one

2207
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,440
ordinance one you know one district one

2208
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:28,920
zone

2209
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,520
instead of two zones.

2210
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,640
And um you know 11:00 is kind of late

2211
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,070
for sleepy Hollow speech.

2212
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,640
» Well again I think this is the time

2213
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,040
where we can make some adjustments from

2214
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,760
suggestions um from the board and then

2215
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,240
kind of use those as field tests.

2216
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,600
>> I don't really want to see it 80 which

2217
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,320
is described as very loud and aggressive

2218
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,521
anywhere in the town anytime.

2219
01:21:54,521 --> 01:21:56,120
>> [clears throat]

2220
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,040
>> And we got that

2221
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,520
in the commercial zone and the

2222
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,320
residential zone.

2223
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,480
>> So you want to lower the overall limits

2224
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:06,440
is what I'm hearing.

2225
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:09,150
>> be my thought.

2226
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,920
» Test all those out.

2227
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,630
What about the timing?

2228
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,200
» Well we lowered from 11:00 to 10:00.

2229
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,160
>> 10:00 p.m.

2230
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,920
>> During the week.

2231
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,840
>> Yeah during the Sunday through Thursday.

2232
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,790
Again that was based on public comments.

2233
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,600
» This might stupid, but

2234
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,760
I just remember being at Quarter Moon

2235
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,880
and I never thought that music was loud,

2236
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,960
but then we were always

2237
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,800
music was always shut down.

2238
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,240
Uh you know, weekends. 10:00 or 9:00.

2239
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,120
>> The police officer that's no longer with

2240
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,760
us did that on a basis.

2241
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,040
>> And and we'd like to say Quarter Moon

2242
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,840
was the first to get a warning under but

2243
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,760
when we started using the ear buds, but

2244
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,280
we would kind of sneak in and tell them

2245
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,680
we we try not to make a big deal of it,

2246
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,920
but they were in violation of the times.

2247
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,600
>> So what's the difference between that

2248
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,240
and what we're talking about? It's

2249
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,640
louder than at public. I mean, it's

2250
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:03,200
almost like you

2251
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,640
>> The bass and we um

2252
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,920
The first warning had A and and even me

2253
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,920
I measuring on C I don't have I couldn't

2254
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,720
even tell you what it

2255
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,440
anything to compare it to cuz we haven't

2256
01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,200
measured anything under C, but

2257
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,320
supposedly A is more what we hear with

2258
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,560
our the ear and C measures bass.

2259
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:22,680
>> Is that it?

2260
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,720
And that's the way

2261
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:30,680
is in her neutrals is that bass boom this to me more obnoxious than the

2262
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,150
music.

2263
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,360
And you just like them all.

2264
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,440
>> It just seems like we keep giving public

2265
01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:41,960
a break over what we enforced at Quarter

2266
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,320
Moon. That's the way it seems to me.

2267
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,960
>> They did warn the Quarter Moon. I know

2268
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,720
they got a warning cuz I got a text and

2269
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,640
one of them said they got a warning from

2270
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,040
that American

2271
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,040
very good friend of mine, so quite

2272
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,000
amazing to me that she got my name out

2273
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,440
of that, but

2274
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,320
a lot of their problem was the band was

2275
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,040
playing very loud and the band was

2276
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,960
great. So they got a lot of more

2277
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,960
attention than the public got from the

2278
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,000
DJ, okay?

2279
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:04,680
>> Right.

2280
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,360
>> Um

2281
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,120
>> Okay.

2282
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:06,640
>> The difference

2283
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,240
>> The streets or on the bars?

2284
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,320
>> The difference both was probably. I

2285
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,600
don't know, but I know they were in the

2286
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,728
street.

2287
01:24:12,728 --> 01:24:13,080
>> [clears throat]

2288
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,190
>> Um

2289
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,640
» We keep the

2290
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,840
decibel spread from 7:00

2291
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,520
to 10:00 or 11:00. The same in

2292
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,240
commercial district from

2293
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,920
Sunday to Thursday and Friday and

2294
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:30,720
Saturday.

2295
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,640
>> So, no real difference between between

2296
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,000
the week that the entire week the same.

2297
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,480
>> Yeah.

2298
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,928
>> Um from 7:00 to 10:00?

2299
01:24:38,928 --> 01:24:42,550
>> [clears throat]

2300
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,680
» There was there was no difference there

2301
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,480
between commercial and residential.

2302
01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:47,240
>> There is not a difference.

2303
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,160
>> They're all the same.

2304
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:49,320
>> Yeah.

2305
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,600
And so, the time you want to drop it

2306
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,920
from 11:00 lower and you want to hit

2307
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,000
Yeah, twice to that.

2308
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,040
>> But it's you asked about the bass. The

2309
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,040
bass is bad. The DJ on the microphone

2310
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,040
talking and getting the round the crowd

2311
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,480
to recite the rest of the lyric.

2312
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:06,320
>> Right.

2313
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,320
>> Who do not carry a tune, that's equally

2314
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,440
as bad. So, I can't pick one that's

2315
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:14,790
worse than the other.

2316
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:20,160
I think 75 80 is too too much. Too much.

2317
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,960
I think 75 is allowed.

2318
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,480
>> We will Yeah, we don't

2319
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:26,760
That's the the problem with waiting is

2320
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,720
by the time we make a decision next

2321
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,600
meeting, the summer's over

2322
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:31,240
and

2323
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,160
the the club's closed

2324
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,320
for the for the rest of the year. But we

2325
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:36,880
That's all that we know enough about

2326
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,440
decibels.

2327
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:41,360
>> So, look at the chart you provided is

2328
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,760
70.

2329
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,320
Conversation difficulty raised voice

2330
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:45,760
rated.

2331
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,200
>> That's your decibel A, not B. We don't

2332
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,280
really know what decibel C A sounds

2333
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,880
like. That's why we In answer of

2334
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,880
Commissioner Best's question,

2335
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,360
but what wasn't given any type of rate

2336
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,120
we just trying to figure it out. Well,

2337
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,760
the times we measured and it could be

2338
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,080
because there's

2339
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,880
if we measure on Anderson's side,

2340
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,440
there's you know, the building. If we

2341
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:06,960
went to where it was open, it might be

2342
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,600
higher. There's just a lot to it. We're

2343
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,320
trying to take all the uh subjectivity

2344
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,520
out of it.

2345
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:12,720
And just trying to figure it out. You

2346
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:13,360
know, it's a lot of it.

2347
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,960
>> C at all over there?

2348
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,200
>> We never have. This wasn't in our

2349
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,800
ordinance.

2350
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,080
>> So, what I would suggest and try again,

2351
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,640
this is just my suggestion. You're

2352
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:22,960
obviously

2353
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,120
but

2354
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,360
I understand that we want the overall

2355
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,520
levels lowered. I think instead of

2356
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,160
trying to sit here and pick if we're not

2357
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,880
going to adopt tonight, instead of

2358
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,960
trying to pick one, I understand we want

2359
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,640
it lowered. Maybe just allow

2360
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,560
us to do some field testing and and try

2361
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,880
to base some kind of formulated

2362
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,320
draft based on that. Um again, we don't

2363
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,520
we we've never done C testing, so this

2364
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,880
will be brand new for us. I don't even

2365
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,600
know where to start my C testing. That

2366
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:53,480
much.

2367
01:26:53,480 --> 01:26:55,400
Um this might be helpful to do some

2368
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,760
field testing. Um we can lower the

2369
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,320
overall limits when we come back with

2370
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,840
the draft. Also, we'll have our field

2371
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,880
testing results. And then um as I am

2372
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,200
hearing, you guys want to have the

2373
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,320
times 7:00 to 10:00 p.m. and cut off at

2374
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,120
10:00 p.m. Monday through Friday.

2375
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,960
>> I think that's more likely. I was like

2376
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Larry's and Alhambra, some of the music

2377
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,800
is 7:00 to 10:00 and they might play a

2378
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,270
little bit over.

2379
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,720
» If it's 10:00

2380
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,680
>> It's 10:00.

2381
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,080
>> Well, I mean, you know, nobody's based

2382
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,880
on that's always based on complaints as

2383
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,040
well.

2384
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,320
>> I think we need to

2385
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,280
table this till next meeting. Invite

2386
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,520
them to do the research on the decibel

2387
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,600
C.

2388
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,320
And we may just decide to drop the

2389
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,040
commercial zone and just

2390
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,720
monkey around with the residential time

2391
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,440
frames and numbers.

2392
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:48,120
I mean, I don't know. I

2393
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,960
That's how I know we have enough

2394
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,360
information to make a decision about

2395
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,600
decibel C.

2396
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:53,440
>> Well, I

2397
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:57,680
>> I am informed a well-informed decision.

2398
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,400
>> Yeah, and if we're going to make the

2399
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,680
time zones all the same, then there

2400
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,720
really isn't a lot of

2401
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,960
distinction between residential and

2402
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,960
commercial. So,

2403
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,280
I could we could make a proposal.

2404
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,000
>> Why don't you just do them exactly the

2405
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,520
same as 7:00 in commercial 7:00 to 10:30

2406
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,280
same as it is in residential.

2407
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,000
>> You want 7:00 to 10:30 or 7:00 to 10:00?

2408
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,160
>> I'd say 10:30.

2409
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:23,880
>> Well, the residential does 10:30 on the

2410
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,920
weekend some from Friday Saturday night.

2411
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,360
So,

2412
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,880
if you just drop the commercial zone and

2413
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,520
maybe play figure out what decibels C is

2414
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,400
supposed to sound what it sounds like

2415
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:39,190
and whether or not it's that much

2416
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,880
» But again,

2417
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:45,080
75 decibels where it says significantly

2418
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,160
raised voice.

2419
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,040
I'll be honest, I've been to some of the

2420
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,840
music venues down here where you just

2421
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,720
had to walk outside

2422
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,120
the fence standing area cuz the music

2423
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,880
was too loud. Last time you were there,

2424
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,440
the music was so loud you

2425
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:05,390
had to walk farther away.

2426
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,600
» While we were doing the testing,

2427
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,440
somebody it's it's mostly mostly the

2428
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:11,960
table was

2429
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,320
and then

2430
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,760
start talking.

2431
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,080
You said the other table

2432
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,720
>> Um

2433
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,800
>> They could do the next one.

2434
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:32,190
I'm on table.

2435
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,120
I would suggest something to consider

2436
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,480
and go over the technical memory

2437
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,720
protection.

2438
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,960
One guy speaks, one

2439
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,400
person could

2440
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,680
>> Toren, and I know we've had some recent

2441
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:45,680
um

2442
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,840
potential uh proposed changes to this,

2443
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,880
but in essence what this is is uh at the

2444
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,880
July meeting we um did a lot of text

2445
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,400
amendments, we approved a lot of text

2446
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,080
amendments uh to the town code

2447
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,600
ordinances, and uh kind of like

2448
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,080
dominoes, you know, one change and you

2449
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,200
try to catch it all, but inevitably you

2450
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,280
miss something. So, we did um come back

2451
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,680
to realize that section 1-6F

2452
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,840
needed to be amended uh so that there

2453
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,800
was no inconsistencies with the newly

2454
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,080
adopted uh amendments from last month.

2455
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,200
Um you do have your draft in ahead of

2456
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,480
you, but then I think that there's been

2457
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:26,080
some further changes from Attorney

2458
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:26,800
Coggins.

2459
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,760
>> They were all uh technical amendments.

2460
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:40,990
There were no substantive changes.

2461
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,520
» Do we need a

2462
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,120
>> I was making sure.

2463
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,990
>> It It The changes were

2464
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,120
» I would entertain a motion that we move

2465
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,400
forward with the changes as

2466
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,160
done by Mr. Coggins.

2467
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:55,400
>> Second.

2468
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,240
>> I have a motion and a second. Any Any

2469
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,120
discussion?

2470
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,000
All Let's have a vote. All in favor?

2471
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,080
>> Aye.

2472
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,040
>> Opposed?

2473
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:03,880
>> And uh

2474
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,640
>> You have

2475
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:16,510
>> Thank you.

2476
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,240
» I believe we're going to be coming in

2477
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,040
under the Fort City

2478
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,240
>> I want to

2479
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,378
>> Thank you, Holly.

2480
01:31:24,378 --> 01:31:24,800
>> [laughter]

2481
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,840
>> I think they hear by themselves.

2482
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:31,230
>> I never buy stuff in the morning.

2483
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,680
» We're starting at

2484
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,040
>> CM Bible.

2485
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:35,880
>> They do what?

2486
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,640
>> They have a service in the morning at

2487
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,560
8:00 and then stand by

2488
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:40,520
>> You're voting

2489
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,720
>> Any of us will do that service

2490
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,840
>> I feel like we used to have a civil

2491
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:45,520
liberty

2492
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:46,760
>> We're going to end up at the park at

2493
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:47,920
Copper Bottom

2494
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,720
>> Okay. So, we won't be having that shift.

2495
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,240
>> No, it's all right. It's going to come

2496
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:53,840
>> Okay.

2497
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:54,880
>> Wow.

2498
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:55,120
>> Yeah.

2499
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,560
>> It won't happen here.

2500
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,600
Our staff will get up there and

2501
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:03,000
>> Number 17, manager and attorney reports.

2502
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,400
>> It's in the packet.

2503
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,000
>> Okay.

2504
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,840
>> which may or may not be in addition to

2505
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,160
duties which I

2506
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,960
bring in your presence

2507
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:12,880
working on the finance to nail control

2508
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,000
ordinance regarding specifically

2509
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,440
chickens

2510
01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:19,040
for your consideration next month. I've

2511
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,920
been assisting town manager with respect

2512
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,000
to a vexing problem with respect to the

2513
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,640
administration of the fire tax

2514
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,920
eradication of particular residence and

2515
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,000
advise to staff regarding the occupancy

2516
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,150
tax of the slope.

2517
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,840
» You have anything?

2518
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,390
>> Yes.

2519
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,000
» Then?

2520
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,480
>> I don't have anything additional other

2521
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:43,920
than what was in my report unless you

2522
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,840
have questions, but

2523
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,600
I did send the

2524
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,960
DOT proposed DOT drawing for the circle

2525
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,640
the amendment. So, I wanted to show that

2526
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:53,960
to you because I know I said I'd find

2527
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,640
it. There you go.

2528
01:32:55,640 --> 01:33:01,280
Um so, as you see where the the red line is there instead of going

2529
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,600
through the circle go to the north end.

2530
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,040
Essentially, you would be able to take

2531
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,920
that straight through road.

2532
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,920
That would take you to the street like a

2533
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,240
stop light there and go to the north end

2534
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:13,840
that way. They're hope they're trying to

2535
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:14,800
keep

2536
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,520
you know, trying to keep so many cars

2537
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,600
out of the roundabout the roundabout.

2538
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,520
So, anyway, I just wanted to show that.

2539
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,120
>> Okay.

2540
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,920
>> While you have that up I spoke with one of the commission

2541
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,840
councilman in the city and one of the

2542
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,880
ideas they had is a place closing

2543
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,480
Kingston which appears to be objected to

2544
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:35,640
by a number of things to preventing left

2545
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,800
turns when you're going north on South

2546
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:39,920
Shore

2547
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,800
so that you can't jump in line. It So,

2548
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,280
that's one way of skinning the cat so to

2549
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,200
speak. Possibly.

2550
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,080
>> And and basically that would be that the

2551
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,160
people who are in in that parking lot

2552
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,440
can come out and get into the line to

2553
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:55,600
get into the circle. That and then but

2554
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,680
you can't get out of the line and go

2555
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,960
down the ocean road and jump back in

2556
01:33:59,960 --> 01:34:02,360
ahead of people. That's what that is.

2557
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,320
Hope this makes some sense.

2558
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,920
But anyway, that's that. This is all

2559
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,040
public information, so

2560
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,720
>> Can you Can Can any

2561
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,440
observation

2562
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,640
extended observation been made from the

2563
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,600
traffic coming from the north?

2564
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,360
That is just every time I go to that

2565
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,600
circle there's a line just pouring in as

2566
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,240
they would cut ahead of you. You're

2567
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:25,760
coming around the circle and they would

2568
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,960
cut ahead in front of you and you slam

2569
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,080
on brakes. But the north traffic north

2570
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,800
traffic coming from the north is just I

2571
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,040
don't think anybody's considering that

2572
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,440
and it needs to be looked at seriously.

2573
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:38,320
>> Well, I mean I think that they're

2574
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,240
looking at all of it, but you're you are

2575
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,400
correct. I mean that that traffic coming

2576
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,560
into that circle

2577
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,640
>> Nobody goes across the north route, so

2578
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:46,840
they don't come.

2579
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,080
Well, we I I happen to go I have been

2580
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,520
around there this week

2581
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:53,520
and

2582
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,880
we had gone around to rush on the other side of the circle

2583
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,960
and we came back there was no traffic

2584
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,360
basically coming to the circle.

2585
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,120
But when we got around the circle coming

2586
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,320
back this way, it was backed up to the

2587
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,440
tennis court.

2588
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:13,800
And it was because people were coming

2589
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,320
around

2590
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,200
by my hand they come through

2591
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,200
IGA. They come through there and come

2592
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:22,200
and

2593
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,320
turn around and get get right back in

2594
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,240
and and there's no end and there's no

2595
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:27,920
close lines.

2596
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:29,520
I'm looking it's a wonder somebody

2597
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,280
hadn't had some

2598
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,120
real problems up there.

2599
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:34,760
They

2600
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,000
>> I agree. There's there they are they are

2601
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,920
trying to to find solutions to ease that

2602
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,800
traffic. Um again, you know, and

2603
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,550
one bite of the apple at a time.

2604
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,200
They have removed all the pedestrian

2605
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,440
traffic. That's helped a lot as well.

2606
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:53,640
You know, the pedestrian traffic that

2607
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,360
was um in the circle, the crosswalks and

2608
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,760
all that. They've removed that and it is

2609
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,800
their intention to keep that closed

2610
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,640
for good. So, that's one of the other,

2611
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,320
you know, ways. They're little things

2612
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,400
that at a time, but it's helping.

2613
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:13,440
>> What about the land about on the the other side?

2614
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,440
>> They haven't restricted that traffic

2615
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:16,000
yet.

2616
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,800
>> wheelchairs and strollers and dogs.

2617
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,160
So, that's some of the way now.

2618
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,190
>> Sure, yeah.

2619
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,670
» That's all I had left there personally.

2620
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:29,760
» And we're uh

2621
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,760
>> We had told you your parking is

2622
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,800
interior lots. That lot right here.

2623
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,760
>> That's the one lot that they carry with

2624
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,520
>> We we've categorized it as interior.

2625
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,280
Yes, there are others along with it in

2626
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,760
the same category.

2627
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,120
We just wanted to make sure we pulled

2628
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:49,790
that one out so we could see.

2629
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,280
» There's a couple of comments.

2630
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,960
>> Yeah, we'll take it in here.

2631
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,000
>> Public comments.

2632
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:59,070
>> Yeah, I'm just

2633
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:00,360
» I don't have to say anything because you

2634
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,680
already know how I feel about it. I'm

2635
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,320
talking in my face.

2636
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,120
What I do want to say is congratulations

2637
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,920
Kim Llewellyn.

2638
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,200
Very happy to see you as our interim. I

2639
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,880
hope that you will make him permanent.

2640
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,920
That is my biggest recommendation that I

2641
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,600
can give you other than the ones that

2642
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,920
you already know.

2643
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,400
>> Okay.

2644
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:22,400
>> I like

2645
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:23,280
what they said.

2646
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,040
>> Thanks for holding your tongue.

2647
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:26,480
>> You're welcome. [laughter]

2648
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:28,840
>> It's got a big hole in it right now.

2649
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:32,510
>> Good analogy.

2650
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,840
» And mayor and commissioner reports.

2651
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,480
>> Council are you?

2652
01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:37,800
I want to remind everybody that

2653
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,320
Congressman David Rouzer will be

2654
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,480
cutting the ribbon Monday 10:00 a.m.

2655
01:37:43,480 --> 01:37:45,200
And right next to Surf City Pier for

2656
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,240
their

2657
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,600
beautiful new beach nourishment project.

2658
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,080
If you could be there

2659
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,600
support what they're

2660
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:53,880
about to embark on, I know they would

2661
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,000
appreciate it.

2662
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,037
>> I'm very thankful for that.

2663
01:37:58,037 --> 01:38:04,590
>> [laughter]

2664
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:05,680
» All right, thank you everybody for

2665
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,880
coming out and watching online. I want

2666
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:08,960
to

2667
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,440
say one thing about the turtles. I wore

2668
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:12,240
a shirt for this reason. As most of you

2669
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,440
know, it's turtle nesting season. I want

2670
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:16,280
to make this shout-out to Debbie and

2671
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:17,560
Andy who are the Topsail Beach

2672
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,240
coordinators for Topsail Turtle Project.

2673
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,440
Currently on the beach every morning and

2674
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:24,640
every night since about mid-July and

2675
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,040
they will continue that to the end of

2676
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:27,800
August. So, they're taking naps midday

2677
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,040
to make this all happen. This year there

2678
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:34,000
have been to this point 145 nests.

2679
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,600
That's the third highest on record, I

2680
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,200
think, and the most since 2019. We

2681
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,240
usually average 98. So, in there 34 in

2682
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,320
Topsail Beach. So, um just keep that in

2683
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,520
mind

2684
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,800
if you have a home near the oceanfront

2685
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,440
or on the oceanfront, keep your lights

2686
01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:52,720
dim. Those little hatchlings will head

2687
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,920
for your house. They won't see the moon,

2688
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,080
especially when there's a new moon. Uh

2689
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,000
so, well, we had a

2690
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:00,520
that happened 2 weeks ago. They just

2691
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,000
went They Somebody shot off fireworks of

2692
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,440
all things right as they were coming out

2693
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:07,560
and they just went everywhere. So, if

2694
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,280
you could um

2695
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:10,760
help the little turtles get in the

2696
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:15,030
ocean.

2697
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,720
» Um I just want to shout out to John

2698
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,520
Gunter. I just want to acknowledge I was

2699
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,400
against paid parking. So far this year

2700
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,040
we've made 205,000.

2701
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,240
So,

2702
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,880
John, it was a good idea. Um

2703
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,480
secondly,

2704
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:31,760
well, and if we've still got and that's

2705
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,400
this

2706
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,040
calendar year even though we're on a

2707
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,960
fiscal year. It's just too hard to think

2708
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,520
fiscal year. Now, I also want to second

2709
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,360
welcoming um Chief Llewellyn to your

2710
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,840
first official

2711
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,360
Board of Commissioners meeting. I know

2712
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,840
it's been a blast and I think we've gone

2713
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,720
out of our way to make it a fun and

2714
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:55,750
exciting first week for you. So, yeah.

2715
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,360
» Yeah.

2716
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:58,800
Well, to those of you who don't even

2717
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,600
know what the Patriot Council of

2718
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,480
Governments is, uh, just know that I'm

2719
01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:06,120
your representative of that body, which,

2720
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,400
uh, provides the various kinds of

2721
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,400
support to the municipalities and the

2722
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,800
four counties around us.

2723
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,840
And, uh, that's why I attend their board

2724
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,920
meetings every once in a while. I did

2725
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,120
this week and I have a, you know, a page

2726
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,480
with the report written out, but I'm

2727
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:24,600
going to skip that, uh, considering what

2728
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,800
we've been through tonight. And I just

2729
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,760
wanted to give you the the bottom line

2730
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,480
on that was that, uh, this month the

2731
01:40:31,480 --> 01:40:33,360
Council of Governments had to select a

2732
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,480
new attorney to support them.

2733
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:38,800
And, uh, they pointed out that they

2734
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,720
interviewed three very competent, uh,

2735
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,360
well-established

2736
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,280
attorney firms and they selected Brown

2737
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,800
Greene Locey as their firm, uh, with

2738
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,000
Steve Coggins, uh, mentoring

2739
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,840
uh, J.D. uh,

2740
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,440
Fisher Fisher

2741
01:40:56,440 --> 01:41:00,720
uh, as uh, the primary attorney. So, um,

2742
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,480
I think they made a really good choice

2743
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,400
there and I told them that.

2744
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,040
Glad to like to stay.

2745
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,120
>> Thank you, Commissioner Gunter. It's not

2746
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,954
a burden, it's very gratifying.

2747
01:41:09,954 --> 01:41:11,990
>> [laughter]

2748
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,280
» You didn't know you were in that much

2749
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,240
venture then, huh?

2750
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,440
>> No, I wasn't I wasn't aware of it.

2751
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:20,550
Commissioner's input.

2752
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,720
» Came after you your selection was

2753
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,830
announced to board.

2754
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,840
» I just appreciate everyone coming out. I

2755
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,880
think we did some good things tonight. I

2756
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,720
know everybody doesn't agree with maybe

2757
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,720
us giving money to a non-profit, but I

2758
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,680
think we are we are a town and and we're

2759
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,000
part of the community council. We're

2760
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,840
part of the community, so I think giving

2761
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,600
back to the community

2762
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,240
is is important as well. So, thank you

2763
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,400
guys for coming.

2764
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,960
>> Thanks, Jim. Okay, gentlemen, I am I'm

2765
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,600
again appreciate everyone showing up

2766
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:53,960
tonight. Uh

2767
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:54,800
it was a

2768
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,080
kind of a streamline uh agenda, but we

2769
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,200
got through it. Uh there's some couple

2770
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,360
of little stumbling points, but I think

2771
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,600
it went well.

2772
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:03,960
And uh we're all the way through the

2773
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,320
summer. And uh it's it's

2774
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,160
been kind of a challenge in some cases,

2775
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:09,920
and I think our biggest uh takeaway for

2776
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,920
the summer is the traffic.

2777
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,160
And uh it's not going to go away and and

2778
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:15,880
so we now would have to see how we deal

2779
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,920
with it. But, um

2780
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,440
there's a couple of other little issues,

2781
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:21,920
but you know, we still live in paradise.

2782
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,520
And again, Chief, welcome. I know you

2783
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,480
got your hands full, but

2784
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:28,640
I think you're you're up for the task.

2785
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,920
>> I think that's great to see.

2786
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:32,080
Thank you all for coming. I make a

2787
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:33,320
motion to adjourn.

2788
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,320
>> I make the motion we adjourn.

2789
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,760
>> Okay, motion seconded. All in favor?

2790
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:38,720
Aye.

2791
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:47,150
Adjourned.

2792
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,840
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