[0:00] I'm going to go ahead and um call the
[0:03] meeting to order. Uh so um could I have
[0:08] a roll call vote please? And we'll start
[0:11] with those that are remote.
[0:13] » Emily Fine,
[0:16] » Mike Parad,
[0:19] » Selena Thomas present, and Veronica Keel
[0:23] present. Uh Anna is trying to sign in.
[0:27] So Anna is gonna um
[0:32] [clears throat] just [cough]
[0:34] [snorts]
[0:41] All right. [clears throat] So um Anna
[0:42] Wilkins is going to be able to join us.
[0:45] She's trying to sign into the Zoom. So
[0:48] as soon as she's in the Zoom, we'll
[0:50] we'll have her with us as well. Um did I
[0:53] say Veronica Cal present?
[0:55] » Yes.
[0:55] » Okay. Thank you. And Emily Fine is
[0:58] remote. All right. Um,
[1:01] the meeting is being recorded by TCAM
[1:04] and it'll be uploaded to the YouTube
[1:07] channel after the fact. [clears throat]
[1:09] Uh, is anybody else recording?
[1:13] Doesn't seem. All right. Um, I have no
[1:17] topics unanticipated 48 hours in
[1:20] advance. Does anyone else
[1:24] anything else? I just want to double
[1:26] check the agenda real quick.
[1:28] » Okay, it's pretty brief.
[1:31] [clears throat]
[1:33] Um while uh Selena's looking at the
[1:35] agenda, Tam, this is for you. Um I have
[1:40] another message for Anna. Uh
[1:43] uh if you could allow Selena to screen
[1:46] share, that would be great. she's our
[1:49] screen share person. So I don't know
[1:51] what we're going to be screen sharing
[1:53] but probably the CR but just so that
[1:56] she's able to do that.
[1:59] » So um for the agenda
[2:03] » That face salter is Anna. I believe last
[2:07] meeting we postponed talking about the
[2:11] um
[2:12] the conservation restriction plan from
[2:16] Dillis and Roy the map.
[2:18] » Oh,
[2:21] I I assumed we were going to look at
[2:23] that under review of CR and next step.
[2:25] » That was my only
[2:26] » Because it's an appendix, correct?
[2:28] » Okay. I think so.
[2:29] » Yeah. So, I'm not going to add that that
[2:32] we'll just roll that in as part of the
[2:35] CR because it is part of the CR.
[2:39] » So, okay. What's the do?
[2:45] » That's the one that legal data select
[2:48] board. Correct. That one or is there
[2:51] » Um I think this one came in a No, you're
[2:54] right. We did look at the select board
[2:56] meeting. Yes,
[2:57] » It's that same one. Okay. Um, hi Anna.
[3:02] We're happy to have you here. So, Anna
[3:04] Wilkins from North County Land Trust has
[3:07] joined us.
[3:10] And um, Selena had asked whether we were
[3:14] going to look at the um, map for Dillis
[3:17] and Roy. And in my mind, we were doing
[3:19] that under 2.1 re review of the CR and
[3:23] next steps because it is an appendix
[3:26] um for the CR and we're going to be
[3:28] looking at all of those. Okay. So um
[3:34] [clears throat] all right. And uh I'm
[3:37] moving on to 1.4, the review and approve
[3:40] the meeting minutes for 35 2026.
[3:44] Um is there a motion?
[3:48] Um,
[3:49] Selena Thomas, I have a motion to
[3:53] uh approve the meeting minutes for March
[3:57] 5th.
[3:58] » Second.
[3:59] » All right. Mike Plaid has seconded. Is
[4:02] there any um comment on the minute?
[4:05] » I had one comment. Um, actually, I
[4:09] should pull them up, shouldn't I?
[4:14] » [clears throat]
[4:17] » Um, so my comment was in the section
[4:21] 2.2.
[4:23] I believe there is a typo.
[4:26] Um,
[4:29] I believe it says BMP instead of BDR.
[4:37] Of course, I don't have those saved
[4:38] anywhere. [clears throat]
[4:41] » I have it.
[4:44] Uh this is the CR committee.
[4:48] Um
[4:55] there
[4:59] » What's what section is it?
[5:01] » Uh 2.2
[5:09] document.
[5:11] » Um The baseline document report will
[5:14] need to include one, two, three,
[5:18] » The habit
[5:19] » As an appendix to the BMP.
[5:22] » That would be the BDR.
[5:23] » Oh,
[5:24] » Okay.
[5:27] » That's what I remember.
[5:28] » That's what I thought too.
[5:30] » Yeah. All right.
[5:35] [clears throat] Okay.
[5:37] Um, any other edits? So, are we good
[5:40] with that edit? I am.
[5:42] » So, so what do you should I do something
[5:47] with the minutes then? Should I
[5:50] » Should I fix the typo and send them to
[5:54] Sabrina? Is that what I should do?
[5:56] » Uh, no. You should let me edit it. And
[5:59] okay,
[6:00] » And if this is are there any and then I
[6:03] will submit to I send them to the town
[6:06] clerk to be stamped in
[6:08] » And then he puts them up online for us.
[6:12] » So um uh so I'll I'll change BMP to BDR.
[6:17] Is there anything else at all?
[6:20] » No.
[6:22] Um
[6:26] all right in that case uh is there uh we
[6:30] need to vote to accept the minutes. So
[6:33] um let's start remotely with um Emily.
[6:38] » Should we say to accept the minutes with
[6:42] the typo corrected?
[6:44] » Uh yes. So maybe we need a motion to
[6:48] » Emily. Emily fine. Yes.
[6:50] » Okay.
[6:51] » Like pot said. Yes.
[6:52] » Okay. Selena Thomas. Yes. And Veronica
[6:55] Kelly. All right. I will make that
[6:58] change and submit it to the town clerk.
[7:04] All right. Uh our next thing is the
[7:07] review of the CR and next steps. So what
[7:10] I uh so and this this is looking at the
[7:13] appendices making sure we have what we
[7:16] need. Selena had sent uh when she sent
[7:19] the CR update from the last meeting, she
[7:23] sent three things that we needed to look
[7:25] at.
[7:28] So, [clears throat] do you want to
[7:32] um
[7:35] did we want to start with this?
[7:38] » Yeah. At the top. Yeah.
[7:47] Or do we want to start with the map from
[7:49] Dillis and Roy? What do you think?
[7:53] » What would you guys like to start with?
[7:55] The map from Dillis and Roy or the CR?
[7:58] Any strong opinions on that?
[8:01] » No strong opinions, but I think the the
[8:03] map might be pretty easy. We might
[8:07] » Yeah, let's do that so that we actually
[8:09] get to it this week. [laughter]
[8:11] Yeah. So we'll stop with start with the
[8:14] math.
[8:16] So
[8:20] » Okay and actually um is is it possible
[8:23] for me to share my screen because I I
[8:26] edited the PDF with comments.
[8:29] Um which might be easier to talk through
[8:33] » The PDF of the
[8:35] » The map.
[8:36] » The map.
[8:37] » Yeah.
[8:37] » Okay. What do you think, Selena?
[8:39] » Yeah, I think that would be good. Okay.
[8:46] All right.
[8:49] Can you see this?
[8:51] » Yes.
[8:52] » Okay. So, the um the original lines are
[8:56] the red ones. Um I think you know unless
[9:00] it's needed. So the thing that strikes
[9:04] me is that with it as it is, the these
[9:08] kind of fingers are on their own or or
[9:12] aren't necessarily contiguous with the
[9:15] rest of the conserved area.
[9:18] This shape here, this narrow strip is um
[9:24] unless it's really necessary to be
[9:26] within the CR,
[9:28] it would be more of a
[9:32] a liability or
[9:37] a headache for con for for monitoring
[9:41] and enforcement to have a strip that is
[9:45] between two unless you were fencing off
[9:47] both sides like running a fence on
[9:50] either side of that. [clears throat] um
[9:52] it's just going to be
[9:57] um
[9:59] or somehow delineating that very clearly
[10:02] on the ground.
[10:04] Um, if there if there's not a lot of
[10:07] value, it's probably
[10:12] not the the you ba basically you're
[10:16] you're just inviting
[10:18] violations or enforcement issues or
[10:22] things that have to get addressed over
[10:27] time. I totally agree with you and also
[10:30] those other right ofways between the
[10:34] houses those don't belong in the CR
[10:36] either. Yeah. So that's another are they
[10:40] so basically the question are these
[10:42] spindles necessary in this if they are
[10:45] necessary
[10:46] then
[10:49] um by all means we should keep them like
[10:53] this one obviously has the roadway again
[10:57] it doesn't need to be like this portion
[11:00] of it doesn't necessarily need to be in
[11:03] the CR
[11:06] um it's just a roadway way.
[11:09] [laughter] Right. Right.
[11:13] » So So those are like that's just a
[11:16] question for you all to to I'd love to
[11:19] you know
[11:21] » I I think this is something that I would
[11:24] run by town council. Um I I would just
[11:27] say we leave those out that they're not
[11:29] necessar.
[11:34] One would be all the um extensions and
[11:37] I'd have to figure out how we define
[11:39] those.
[11:40] » Yeah.
[11:41] » All of the extensions out to Horseshoe
[11:44] Drive.
[11:44] » Well, I think just by not including them
[11:48] as red hash on the map of what is the CR
[11:51] that defines it. So, we don't have to
[11:55] except that it's part of what's um maybe
[11:59] you know better than me, Anna. Uh I it's
[12:03] part of the property, you know, of the
[12:06] plot plan kind of. Um
[12:10] » Yeah, but at the same time, you're not
[12:12] including this part of the plot plan,
[12:16] » Right?
[12:17] » And we define that. So we could just
[12:19] define the fingers from horseshoe drive,
[12:23] however the right way,
[12:26] » Right?
[12:28] » Yeah. The same as as this area. So, you
[12:32] know, it's still owned by the town. If
[12:35] somebody decides to put their shed on
[12:38] it, it's still a trespass onto town
[12:41] land, but it's not a conservation
[12:43] restriction violation,
[12:45] » Right?
[12:46] » So, that's the and and
[12:49] you know, I I think that the land trust
[12:52] would prefer not to
[12:56] um
[12:58] to to have that be within
[13:01] a an annual monitoring
[13:04] report, we may end up having,
[13:08] you know, open violations because
[13:10] somebody's, you know, leaf pile is on
[13:14] the CR
[13:16] and it just drags on and on and on
[13:19] because um,
[13:22] you know, it's not a major issue that
[13:24] people are going to deal with, but then
[13:26] over time it just gets eroded, you know.
[13:28] But anyway, anyway,
[13:30] » I
[13:31] » Yeah, I think we call those rights of
[13:34] way, right? Because
[13:36] » Those are just um those are so that the
[13:40] town can go from Horseshoe Drive onto
[13:44] the
[13:45] that property.
[13:47] But one place also that I know that
[13:50] there's
[13:52] a violation already is on that far one.
[13:55] The one furthest that we can't see it.
[13:58] You need to scroll. Yeah, that one. Um
[14:03] there's like patio furniture and all
[14:06] sorts of things in there.
[14:08] » So yeah, so that would have to get
[14:10] resolved before the CR was recorded. But
[14:14] when we did the baseline documentation
[14:16] report, they're going to pick up
[14:18] anything else that's outline outlined.
[14:21] » Yeah, we did have one encroachment that
[14:24] the town did handle. It was a shed that
[14:27] that uh um a butter had on the town
[14:30] property and they were very
[14:33] accommodating and willing to take care
[14:36] of that.
[14:37] » Yeah. Yeah. Typically typically these
[14:40] things aren't a a big deal. Um but over
[14:44] time it it can um you know it's better
[14:47] to have the conservation area be fairly
[14:50] obvious.
[14:52] » Okay. So
[14:53] » And have it be this little little strip
[14:56] and then you're sending a volunteer out
[14:58] there or you're sending a a an intern or
[15:01] a summer person to go monitor and they
[15:05] they they're not sure you know exactly
[15:07] where the line is and etc. So
[15:10] » Sorry. Are you also recommending to
[15:13] remove the last one to the north there?
[15:17] » No, I would keep this one in that is
[15:19] broad enough and contains um part of
[15:22] that um
[15:24] » The the slope there. And I think that's
[15:27] valuable. It also gives um frontage for
[15:32] you know
[15:34] um access to monitor potentially if but
[15:38] that I mean that's that's not really an
[15:40] issue but [clears throat] you know if if
[15:43] the town is
[15:45] yeah I don't know that's that's a wide
[15:47] enough swath that I think it's valuable
[15:50] » And it's also kind of an a Emily I think
[15:54] that's part of the active area is that
[15:56] not Right. Yes. Yeah. So, I think that's
[16:00] valuable.
[16:03] » Okay.
[16:03] » Okay. So, that's the spindles question.
[16:08] » The other question is the shape um
[16:10] around the far far field uh soccer
[16:14] fields field two. Um just wondering why
[16:18] it came to a point there. Um, and so
[16:22] this golden or orange area and the blue
[16:25] area are my suggestions of actually
[16:27] including those areas in the CR. Um,
[16:30] unless there's a reason for
[16:34] not having them. Um
[16:38] » Where is the um the uh
[16:45] area for lightning strikes and also the
[16:50] » So that is down in the um down near the
[16:53] main driveway road
[16:55] » Right in here. Those boxes
[16:57] » The box to the right is the lightning
[17:00] [clears throat] structure. The left is a
[17:03] potential playground area someday in the
[17:05] future, but not currently being planned
[17:10] to be built.
[17:11] » Well, if part of the reason for
[17:13] extending the uh the range of the CR is
[17:17] to include in include the spindle or the
[17:20] rightways. If you eliminate the
[17:22] rightways, is it necessary
[17:25] to expand it? And so the question is how
[17:28] often is there nesting in that area
[17:31] there
[17:33] » In the yellow triangle
[17:34] » Or the yellow triangle or or that bluish
[17:36] blue
[17:39] » There is nesting there.
[17:42] » Okay.
[17:44] » So then it does make sense to do the
[17:47] yellow triangle and the blue triangle
[17:50] within the CR.
[17:53] » Yes. And what effect does that have on
[17:55] the soccer?
[17:57] » Yeah. And is that enough room on the
[17:59] backside for people to watch the game,
[18:01] etc. Or I mean, not not that they
[18:03] couldn't watch the game from the CR, but
[18:06] um
[18:07] » Yeah. So I think that's the only thing
[18:09] is um people do sit on the side of the
[18:12] yellow triangle because [clears throat]
[18:14] that field sometimes is one longer field
[18:17] instead of two small ones.
[18:20] » So people do sit over there. Mhm.
[18:22] » Um, but
[18:26] the only thing I would suggest is maybe
[18:31] change that yellow triangle slightly so
[18:33] that the bottom right corner of it meets
[18:39] up with the fence line for
[18:44] that corner, the other corner. Take it
[18:46] up the
[18:48] » Oh, this one like Oh, sorry.
[18:52] So, get rid of this.
[18:56] Hello. Oops. Hang on.
[19:00] Oh, there we go. Just didn't want to
[19:04] like that.
[19:06] Then maybe bring it out to square it off
[19:09] like that.
[19:11] » Yes, something like that.
[19:14] » Yeah. And it's mostly like the contour
[19:16] of the land there, the people, the
[19:19] » Actual space. Um, [clears throat] it's
[19:22] flat and then it drops off into
[19:26] » So just the
[19:28] » Be like following
[19:30] this contour.
[19:32] » Yeah.
[19:33] » Kind of there. Is that right?
[19:35] » Yeah. Somewhere right in that general. I
[19:39] don't think it's even that big. I think
[19:40] it's a little closer to the field than
[19:42] that.
[19:43] » Okay. But yeah, um I would just say
[19:46] keeping the the
[19:50] » Right
[19:53] » Lining with the blue so it's in line
[19:55] with that fence
[19:56] » Would make it easier for people to be
[19:58] able to know exactly where it is.
[20:02] » Right.
[20:04] Maybe we can put a couple of boulders or
[20:06] something here just dotted along.
[20:10] » Yeah. Um, so does this need to go back
[20:12] to Dillis and Roy then for redraw? It
[20:15] will.
[20:16] » Um, okay. So, so
[20:19] » The and and [clears throat] are you I
[20:22] mean I'm assuming that beyond this fence
[20:24] in the naturalized area,
[20:27] this slope is not an area where people
[20:29] are going a lot. Is that true?
[20:32] » That's not um the only reason the fence
[20:35] is where it is is because we didn't want
[20:37] to build the fence on the hill.
[20:38] » On on the hill, right? Yeah. So,
[20:41] » So it makes sense to And then I'm
[20:44] assuming that this is going to be sort
[20:45] of a retaining wall or very ste like is
[20:48] this a embankment? Is that what this is?
[20:51] » There's a little bank there and um it's
[20:54] not going to be a retaining wall. It's
[20:56] just we're going to have the fields go
[20:58] back to the point where the hill starts
[21:00] there.
[21:01] » Starts. Yeah.
[21:02] » Yeah. And then and this is not this
[21:06] doesn't have anything to do with the CR,
[21:08] but what's the storm water plan for over
[21:10] here? Is there a storm water plan yet?
[21:14] » Um they've been working on it. So there
[21:17] is an idea for it.
[21:20] » Yeah. [laughter]
[21:21] » Um mostly because the drainage here is
[21:24] so good. um
[21:28] putting in a gravel area next to like
[21:31] kind of surrounding
[21:33] will be enough that the water will drain
[21:36] but um
[21:39] » Yeah got it. All right. Very good. So um
[21:44] that's great. Okay. So remove the
[21:46] spindles and kind of expand it basic and
[21:48] I can Selena I can um now that we've
[21:50] discussed this in the committee I can
[21:53] send this as a sketch plan. The only
[21:56] other uh
[22:00] Yeah. And and I guess I would just
[22:02] suggest that um during the construction
[22:07] or during, you know, when you're putting
[22:10] in the fence or something, if it could
[22:13] put a
[22:15] um a few, you know, maybe a boulder
[22:18] every 50t or something just to kind of
[22:23] along that line
[22:25] » To help
[22:26] help just like draw the
[22:28] » Here it is. Yeah.
[22:29] » Demarcated line. Yeah, we've got lots of
[22:31] boulders that we're going to be moving.
[22:33] So, I don't think that would be
[22:34] [laughter] a problem.
[22:36] » Yeah, every 25, 50 feet, something like
[22:38] that. Some It doesn't need to be like a
[22:41] a a wall or anything. It's just like,
[22:43] you know, to
[22:45] » Mark it.
[22:46] » I don't know if you remember from when
[22:48] we were there doing the walk, but along
[22:51] the parking right now there's boulders
[22:54] to keep people on the road. So,
[22:57] » We're not going to need them when we put
[22:59] in the fence. So, we can move some of
[23:01] them [laughter] over there.
[23:02] » They could all go there.
[23:03] » That's perfect. That would be great.
[23:06] Okay. All right. So, I will save this
[23:08] and send that over to you, Selena and um
[23:12] Ronnie.
[23:13] » Okay. Thank you.
[23:15] » Um and I will stop sharing.
[23:18] Not that I don't like to share, but yes.
[23:22] Yes. I stop sharing.
[23:25] » Anything else on the map, Selena, that
[23:27] you wanted to point out?
[23:29] Um, I don't think so. Um,
[23:38] » Oh, can I just say one other thing is
[23:40] that we'll need um
[23:46] it is helpful. So I don't
[23:52] once the shape of the CR is finalized
[23:55] within the CR they're um the legal
[23:57] description is going to need to be
[23:59] written out or on the survey plan
[24:01] they're going to have to do meets and
[24:02] bounds of the the boundary.
[24:05] Um, so that is something that
[24:10] um we'll need to get from Dillis and Roy
[24:13] is a legal description basically of the
[24:15] CR.
[24:20] » And is [clears throat] that that first
[24:21] paragraph?
[24:23] No, it's it's like 25 feet go from the
[24:31] pin in the stone wall go 25 ft north
[24:35] northeast 72 degrees,
[24:39] you know, whatever
[24:40] » Is that located then as part of the
[24:42] appendices. Yeah, it's appendex A and
[24:45] then the reduced survey is appendix B
[24:50] and um but they um
[24:56] if you you are going to need the call
[24:59] the the call sheet basically the meats
[25:02] and bounds.
[25:04] » Okay, which
[25:04] » Which they call the legal description. I
[25:06] I
[25:07] » As far as
[25:10] as far as my experience goes. Okay.
[25:14] » Survey.
[25:16] [clears throat]
[25:19] » All right.
[25:22] [clears throat] And um Selena, if if we
[25:27] it it um
[25:31] if it's easier.
[25:34] Oh,
[25:35] well, [clears throat]
[25:39] never mind. I'm gonna I'm not going to
[25:41] suggest that. So I have seen ti time
[25:43] times where um they have used elevations
[25:47] as the boundary. So you could say you
[25:51] know say that um the bank of the you
[25:54] know the back bank it's like you know
[25:59] you know
[26:01] 600 feet in elevation. So you would say,
[26:05] you know, the boundary is six the 600
[26:08] foot elevation line, you know, but I've
[26:11] seen that more in riparian areas along
[26:14] banks of rivers than um in this area. So
[26:19] that's I'm saying like
[26:22] scratch that, forget I said it, but
[26:24] that's what I was thinking. [laughter]
[26:28] » Okay.
[26:31] Um, so the only other thing I wanted to
[26:34] make sure that the CR going all the way
[26:37] out to the road, um, [clears throat] to
[26:40] Mason Road, which is on the right side
[26:43] of the map, um, along the driveway is
[26:48] what you were expecting because I know
[26:50] we talked about doing it and not doing
[26:52] it, and I couldn't remember where we
[26:55] left off. [laughter]
[26:57] I thought we left off with it's part of
[26:59] the CR. So that's what I thought too.
[27:02] But
[27:04] » But Anna, [laughter]
[27:06] » I think it's [clears throat] I think
[27:08] it's fine. Um, [gasps]
[27:14] honestly,
[27:17] um,
[27:19] I recall that we left that we left it at
[27:23] we'll leave it in, but now I can't
[27:25] recall why. Emily, do you remember?
[27:30] Um I know that there was a there was
[27:33] discussion of
[27:35] um all the trees that have grown there
[27:39] and we probably don't want to cut those
[27:42] because we don't want to encourage
[27:44] nesting
[27:46] there. However, there is nesting there.
[27:51] Um, not I don't know that we have found
[27:54] any listed species there, but definitely
[27:58] painted turtles and snappers
[28:01] nest all along there.
[28:04] » Yeah.
[28:06] » So, so yeah. And I think Emily, you were
[28:09] the one that was kind of saying, well,
[28:11] we, you know, it's really not um
[28:16] the best area
[28:19] um for them uh from a human interaction
[28:23] standpoint. Is that is that right?
[28:25] » True. We really we don't really want to
[28:28] encourage them to go there. The thing is
[28:30] they do go there. The only reason we
[28:33] have very few nest protectors there is
[28:37] because
[28:39] um there's so much territory that we
[28:41] need to cover during nesting season to
[28:45] find especially um wood turtle and and
[28:50] blanding turtles that are nesting that
[28:54] we just don't have enough manpower or
[28:57] woman power to um check those that area
[29:03] as often.
[29:05] » That's all. But if if we had enough
[29:08] people, we could have people going back
[29:11] and forth along there.
[29:15] So,
[29:18] I guess from my point of view in terms
[29:21] of enforcement, it's not
[29:24] um [clears throat]
[29:27] you know, I'm not too worried about it.
[29:29] Um,
[29:30] » Yeah. I don't think it's a problem area
[29:32] at all. Like, I don't think we're going
[29:34] to have to worry about issues with
[29:38] people
[29:39] » Messing around in there.
[29:41] » Yeah. Yeah. And and and from
[29:45] the abuing properties on the other side
[29:48] of the line, what are the uses? Is it
[29:52] residential?
[29:53] » There's a house and then there's the
[29:55] river,
[29:56] » Right? So, you know, I'm not super
[30:02] worried about the backline.
[30:04] Um,
[30:06] but I think that would, you know, you
[30:08] just basically walk down the driveway or
[30:10] drive down the driveway and make sure
[30:12] you know, nobody's um building a hobbit
[30:15] house into the side of the
[30:19] into the side of the bank or whatever.
[30:21] » Um, I have a question.
[30:24] Did you say that th those rocks are
[30:27] going to be removed?
[30:30] » I believe so because we're putting in
[30:32] the fence instead.
[30:36] » But the rocks are preventing
[30:39] » Oh, no. Sorry. Just the rocks on the
[30:42] field side.
[30:43] » Okay. Okay.
[30:46] » Sorry. [clears throat]
[30:47] » Okay. So, as long as the rocks are
[30:48] there, then that discourages cars from
[30:52] » Yes. Yeah.
[30:53] » Driving or parking on that.
[30:57] » Um
[30:58] » Well, they can't anyway.
[31:01] » Yeah.
[31:02] » So,
[31:03] » Yep. Yeah. I think that's fine. I think
[31:06] that Yeah, that's fine. Just keep it in.
[31:09] And it's it's really kind of a neutral.
[31:12] It's neutral in in the eyes of the
[31:16] um land trust. I think, you know, maybe
[31:20] the only other thing that
[31:23] it prevents is widening of the driveway,
[31:27] » But I don't see that being
[31:30] » Yeah,
[31:31] » We would want to Tesa would want to do
[31:34] » Because we have the other
[31:37] » I I guess I would just
[31:40] um
[31:42] you know, think have the town think
[31:45] about that. um
[31:48] for f any future
[31:53] um
[31:57] uses. But you know, it it could it could
[32:00] go either way in that way. Like u maybe
[32:03] we
[32:05] want to prevent the town from doing
[32:06] anything major like putting in four
[32:08] lanes in a I don't know.
[32:12] So, I'm gonna double check with Dillis
[32:14] and Roy that the edge of that red line
[32:17] is at the edge of the flat because
[32:20] there's the driveway and then there's
[32:22] just some flat space next to the
[32:24] driveway where we like put our sponsor
[32:26] signs.
[32:27] » Okay.
[32:28] » So, I'll make sure that that red line is
[32:30] in the right spot.
[32:32] » Um,
[32:33] » Yeah. And and if you want room at the
[32:35] top of the driveway to, you know, for
[32:37] whatever reason to put in a gate or, I
[32:40] don't know, whatever, you can always end
[32:42] the line
[32:44] um instead of at Mason Road, you know,
[32:47] 20 ft
[32:49] down, you know.
[32:52] » Yep.
[32:54] So,
[32:56] um, it I and I would encourage that if
[33:00] you think you're going to want some to
[33:03] be,
[33:05] you know, putting a gate house up there
[33:07] someday to take tickets or I don't know
[33:09] what. Um,
[33:10] » Yeah, we currently have a gate down
[33:13] where the parking starts. Um,
[33:17] » Yeah.
[33:18] » I
[33:19] » So, you don't Yeah,
[33:20] » I'll talk about
[33:21] » What I'm I'm just bringing up the, you
[33:24] know, the ambiguous future and all of
[33:26] the possibilities because once the CR
[33:28] goes on,
[33:30] » Right,
[33:30] » You don't want to be saying, "Oh,
[33:32] actually [laughter]
[33:34] that area is actually really useful for
[33:36] us."
[33:37] » Yeah. Um, or actually we like to, you
[33:40] know, sometimes park up there and wave,
[33:43] you know,
[33:44] wave people into our fundraiser or
[33:46] whatever. I don't know.
[33:48] » They
[33:50] on on the river side of the access road
[33:55] from Mason Road up to the parking area.
[33:59] It's the flat area where the turtles
[34:01] nest
[34:03] [clears throat]
[34:06] » Where the signs get put. Where the
[34:08] sponsor [clears throat] signs get put.
[34:10] Is that what you're saying?
[34:11] » What?
[34:12] » Where the sponsor signs are?
[34:15] » Yeah. On that side. Yeah. There was one
[34:18] time there was a painted turtle.
[34:19] Somebody came to us and said, "Oh,
[34:22] right." Uh, and it was um partway down
[34:26] and it was it was nesting. It did get
[34:29] spooked off of its nest, but it was
[34:31] nesting
[34:33] Yeah. between the road and and the first
[34:36] parking area.
[34:40] I don't know whether you could put all
[34:41] your signs on the other side of the
[34:44] road. [laughter]
[34:54] Sorry.
[34:55] » You would also put signs in the new
[34:57] parking area.
[34:59] » Yeah. So, we are intending to um have
[35:02] signs like along our fences in the
[35:05] future, but that'll depend on when all
[35:09] of this gets built. [laughter]
[35:13] All right. Um, so yeah, I will talk to
[35:17] the TASA board
[35:21] and have Delis and Roy update the map.
[35:35] [clears throat]
[35:46] Okay. Um, anything else on the map?
[35:53] All right.
[35:55] So, that takes us to the CR and then
[35:58] we'll come back to appendices.
[36:01] So Selena had sent out an email about
[36:05] things that um needed to be
[36:07] » And I actually found a couple other
[36:09] things along the way.
[36:10] » Oh, good. So do you want to
[36:13] » Sure.
[36:13] » Take over on this part.
[36:15] » All right. Um so what I would say is if
[36:18] anybody has anything on page one or two,
[36:22] um we can do that first because my first
[36:25] thing is on page three.
[36:27] » All right. So this was page one. Are
[36:30] [clears throat] the dates correct?
[36:32] Um for for the things that are there.
[36:36] » What
[36:37] » I forgot I said. [laughter]
[36:39] » So uh town council had sent us maps and
[36:42] one of the maps maybe is um one of the
[36:46] exhibits because it's the well building
[36:48] and the access road. Do you have that
[36:50] one? Can you bring that one?
[36:51] » I can bring that one.
[36:54] um our our interim town administrator
[36:57] was uh um getting things because we have
[37:01] a question on next week's special town
[37:03] meeting to allow a 50-year lease for
[37:05] Tesa. And so he wanted maps of the area.
[37:10] And so council sent what he thought the
[37:13] maps should be. He sent the deed, one of
[37:17] the maps, which we do have, and then
[37:19] this other map that I had never seen,
[37:22] » And it's of the well. Um,
[37:27] » Sorry, my computer's slow.
[37:29] [clears throat and cough]
[37:32] » Yeah, I know. I saw I saw that map and I
[37:34] was like, "Oh, cool. That's the map we
[37:36] wanted to see
[37:38] a long time ago." I haven't talked to
[37:41] him, so I don't know where he found
[37:43] that. Um,
[37:45] » Well, it's recorded, so
[37:48] » Yeah. Um, I'm looking for a date.
[37:51] » File 94. 1994.
[37:55] » Yeah. So, this anyway.
[38:02] Okay. So, that one was
[38:07] the water.
[38:10] Come on computer.
[38:20] There we go. Okay.
[38:39] » [clears throat]
[38:45] » So, is it too small to see? If you can
[38:49] make it bigger, that would be good.
[38:56] There
[38:57] » On the Y [clears throat]
[39:00] » My Zoom stuff is in the way.
[39:03] » [laughter]
[39:04] » That happened.
[39:15] You have to use the sliding bars. I hate
[39:18] that part. I hate that you can't click
[39:20] and drag.
[39:23] So this, if you can see my, this is
[39:27] where it shows that this little finger
[39:30] or right of way is part of parcel 3 dash
[39:36] uh B-3- A,
[39:38] which is where the water department
[39:41] wants their road.
[39:44] » Yeah. Interesting that they're going to
[39:46] Well, how wide is that? 25 ft. And they
[39:49] only need what did they say?
[39:52] » 12.
[39:52] » 12.
[39:54] » Yeah.
[39:55] » Which is good because that gives them a
[39:57] buffer on either side, but they'll have
[39:58] to make it a little windy.
[40:01] » Yeah. It's got a little turn at the
[40:03] beginning.
[40:04] » Yeah.
[40:07] » Interesting.
[40:08] » Which is really funny that they built
[40:11] that little turn into [laughter] the lot
[40:13] line,
[40:13] » Right? They they must have had to have
[40:16] that 16 foot setback from the edge of
[40:19] the house
[40:21] » That
[40:22] » And then they were like, "Whoops,
[40:24] we started building the house. Now we
[40:26] have to
[40:28] » Yeah. existing [laughter] house under
[40:29] construction." Yeah, I think that's what
[40:32] happened.
[40:34] » Like, oh,
[40:36] » Yep.
[40:37] » Got to be in compliance. They're they're
[40:39] 16 feet.
[40:40] » But if it's 12 feet, they might be able
[40:42] to go right down the middle. Yeah, they
[40:44] might
[40:44] » Might. Yeah,
[40:46] » It won't matter. So,
[40:48] » It's true.
[40:50] » Anyway, okay.
[40:52] » So, the
[40:53] » Go ahead.
[40:53] » Date.
[40:55] » Yeah.
[40:57] » And if this map needs to be included,
[40:59] then we might need a different um book
[41:02] number. And
[41:04] » Right. [clears throat and cough]
[41:07] » Yeah. You know, I would include
[41:10] the um the previous map, which I guess
[41:14] is uh plan number. Oh, let's see here.
[41:18] Come on.
[41:21] » Yeah, cuz the other two maps are
[41:24] this site.
[41:28] » So, maybe we just add this one in as
[41:30] well.
[41:31] » Yeah.
[41:32] » Yes, that's what I'm thinking. that we
[41:35] use these two that um
[41:37] » All right. So, this is 24494
[41:41] the book
[41:43] and it's
[41:47] page
[41:49] 252
[41:52] » And the other one
[41:53] » And it was recorded.
[41:55] » I wonder if this is
[41:58] the other one says 2449. [clears throat]
[42:02] Wait, where where are you seeing that?
[42:04] » Yeah. So 2449
[42:07] uh page 249 is a different um map.
[42:13] » Yeah,
[42:13] » That is of this. So
[42:16] is it this certification date this 11193
[42:21] that for me? This is a question for
[42:23] Adam.
[42:25] Um yeah, I would think so.
[42:28] The other one is 94.
[42:34] » [clears throat]
[42:36] » I'm not sure which is the right date to
[42:39] put on.
[42:41] » Well, [clears throat]
[42:42] it wait a second. What are you guys
[42:45] talking about?
[42:46] » Yeah, sorry. It's this in the
[42:48] » Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
[42:52] » Yeah.
[42:54] So what you want is plan number 331
[43:00] page 1 through three. So
[43:04] the the book the book and page has to do
[43:09] with the deed reference I believe
[43:14] » That's the document. So if you want to
[43:16] are you referencing the plan or are you
[43:19] referencing the
[43:21] » So both. So there's this first one, this
[43:25] book for that's the deed,
[43:28] » Right?
[43:29] » And then the second one is
[43:31] [clears throat] the map that goes along
[43:33] with that,
[43:34] » Right? So I don't think that that if you
[43:38] put 2449, page 249 into the plan
[43:45] in the Middle Sex South Registry of
[43:47] Gans, it would not come up with this.
[43:50] You would need plan number 331,
[43:55] page one, two or three.
[43:59] » Okay. I have registry of deeds at plan
[44:03] book 0194
[44:05] is plan 331.
[44:08] » Yeah. Yeah. Let me let me just let me
[44:11] just check what I'm saying against the
[44:14] registry of deeds right now just to make
[44:15] sure that I'm not full of hot air.
[44:19] But I'm pretty sure
[44:23] » In any event, I think the two maps that
[44:26] Adam sent are the two that we want in
[44:30] here.
[44:31] » Let me let me let me let me search
[44:34] records.
[44:36] » Wrong. It should be 2449.
[44:41] And so yeah, if I put in this map
[44:45] number, it comes up
[44:48] um
[44:49] » In the registry.
[44:51] » Yep.
[44:52] » The 2449
[44:56] » 24494
[44:59] » 24494
[45:02] » And which that's the map that we were
[45:05] just looking at. The other one, the 2449
[45:10] also comes up.
[45:11] » Huh.
[45:14] » At the same place
[45:15] » In the registry of deeds.
[45:19] » Okay.
[45:19] » So, it's two different maps.
[45:23] » They both are in the registry.
[45:26] » Got it.
[45:28] [cough and clears throat]
[45:31] » Plan book.
[45:34] Amazing.
[45:39] [sighs]
[45:43] » I [clears throat] can put it in.
[45:45] » No, it's all good. What? However it
[45:47] However, if it if you check it and then
[45:50] it works, then that's fine.
[45:52] [clears throat] That's it.
[45:54] » So, maybe we just want one reference,
[45:56] the 24494.
[45:59] » But they're two different maps. So, do
[46:02] we want one reference or do we want two?
[46:05] » Might as well
[46:06] » Might as well
[46:08] have both of them listed.
[46:12] » I agree. [clears throat]
[46:14] » Yeah. So, this is the registry and if
[46:16] you click on the So, this is the 24494
[46:21] page 252.
[46:23] » And you click on the image.
[46:25] » Yeah.
[46:27] It [clears throat] pops up in a new
[46:28] window and you can't see it, but it is.
[46:30] [laughter]
[46:32] » Great. That's great. That's great.
[46:34] That's great.
[46:35] » Here.
[46:36] » Yeah. Yeah.
[46:38] » We change it to 249
[46:41] with the other insert.
[46:43] » Great.
[46:44] » That also comes up. So, is the book
[46:46] 24449
[46:49] or 2449?
[46:53] » 4494.
[46:55] Oh, you know what?
[46:56] » Yeah, it's
[46:58] » This is not right. Haha. Okay.
[47:04] I can't see that up [laughter] there.
[47:05] So,
[47:07] » This was supposed to be 24494,
[47:12] page 252.
[47:15] The other one um
[47:18] does not show up,
[47:21] » But it but it's 244. Okay, let me pull
[47:25] this one up.
[47:26] » So, the other one is 24449
[47:29] page 249.
[47:31] » How confusing can they make it for us?
[47:34] » That's all the same numbers in different
[47:37] order.
[47:38] » Yes, exactly. for our for those of us
[47:40] who are num numerally challenged this is
[47:43] a nightmare.
[47:46] » So if you make it 24 so if you edit that
[47:49] the plan recorded at book 244
[47:53] out of four nine page 249.
[47:56] » Oh
[47:57] » Do you see where I am?
[47:58] » I see where you are but it doesn't have
[48:01] an additional it has an additional four
[48:03] on the end.
[48:04] » Yes.
[48:05] » No.
[48:05] » No.
[48:06] » A four before the nine.
[48:07] » Four before it. So three fours
[48:10] » Three fours nine. So 24 44 49 page 249
[48:17] and book 244 [clears throat]
[48:20] 94
[48:22] page what was it? 331 or 251 250
[48:25] » 252
[48:27] » 25
[48:27] » 252 okay
[48:29] » I I will say now that we've gone through
[48:31] all of [laughter] this
[48:34] [gasps]
[48:35] » Yes
[48:36] » Is that um
[48:39] recently
[48:41] um department of conservation services
[48:44] has
[48:47] has taken out
[48:49] the deed and
[48:54] plan references in the preamble.
[48:58] No, not the deed, but the the plan
[49:00] references in the preamble and just
[49:04] points people to the appendex and that's
[49:06] where they put it because they were
[49:08] finding that there were too many typos
[49:10] between the preamble and the appendix in
[49:14] terms of the book and page numbers. Hi.
[49:17] [clears throat]
[49:17] » Um,
[49:18] » But I say stick it in there because
[49:21] that's the way that um
[49:24] » Misa wants to [clears throat] see it.
[49:26] And maybe
[49:27] and then it's and then it's also if you
[49:30] look at the plan because so so it's the
[49:35] it's also the the definitive subdivision
[49:38] of land for James Craraven dated 4121
[49:41] 1994.
[49:43] This last revision has to be wrong.
[49:46] um
[49:48] » Because it's earlier.
[49:49] » Yeah. Yeah. Um prepared by David E. Ross
[49:52] and recorded in as plan book 01994
[49:58] uh plan 331.
[50:03] » Okay.
[50:05] » Yeah. So maybe that jog isn't in there
[50:09] in the final.
[50:11] [clears throat]
[50:11] » I had Yeah. I had never seen what um
[50:18] what was sent to us by
[50:21] council
[50:22] » 0194
[50:24] 331
[50:26] » Does not exist.
[50:27] » It does not exist.
[50:32] [cough]
[50:32] » How did [clears throat] I get that?
[50:38] Right. I take this in right.
[50:42] 01994
[50:44] is 351. Yeah.
[50:49] 01994.
[50:51] » Are you looking at a plan book as
[50:53] opposed to a book and a page? Like did
[50:56] you select plan
[51:00] » Instead of recorded land?
[51:01] » Yes.
[51:02] » Aha. That's the difference.
[51:08] » [clears throat]
[51:13] [laughter]
[51:20] » There it is. Okay. Now, is this the one
[51:23] with the Let's look at that if we can
[51:27] and and figure out the dates on this.
[51:29] [laughter]
[51:30] » I think I have to stop sharing and share
[51:32] the
[51:33] » That's okay.
[51:39] And then we can let um uh NHSP or MISA
[51:45] or whatever uh decide how they want this
[51:48] to be.
[51:54] All right. Where's my plus?
[52:07] It's really hard for me to see this.
[52:09] » Yeah.
[52:14] » And it's usually down in the corner and
[52:16] sometimes it's handwritten for
[52:18] » August 30th, 1993.
[52:22] » Oh, yeah. August 30, 1993.
[52:26] Although and the [clears throat] last
[52:27] revision
[52:29] was 41294.
[52:43] » Oh, yep. So, the date of endorsement.
[52:46] Oh, that that's where I got the April
[52:48] 11th. Oh, I have April 12th. Sometimes
[52:52] we used to hand write it off to the
[52:55] right.
[52:56] Um,
[52:59] I don't see anything there.
[53:04] Oh, the revision. See that revision
[53:06] column there on the right? And then
[53:09] there's handwritten dates in there.
[53:13] [clears throat] Um, that's where I got
[53:15] the 4593.
[53:23] We just used to do that on planning
[53:24] board when they would bring things in. I
[53:27] wasn't on the planning board when all
[53:28] this happened, but do you see um
[53:31] » 4593? Yep.
[53:33] » And that's why I put the last revision,
[53:38] but the date on it, if you go back to
[53:41] the left,
[53:44] so I'm not sure what the right way to do
[53:46] is here. It's received by the registry
[53:49] on 41294.
[53:51] So this is the registry stamp.
[53:55] So it's probably
[53:58] it should probably be 8:30 1993
[54:02] with last revision
[54:05] um of April whatever it was 1994 or
[54:10] something. I don't know. I believe in
[54:13] [clears throat] the preamble the
[54:14] reference is to the date it was recorded
[54:18] because the the information in that
[54:23] basically what they want you to be able
[54:25] to do is go to the registry and find the
[54:28] supporting evidence and the t the chain
[54:31] of title and so that
[54:35] the the the fact that the endorsement
[54:38] was on August 30th 1993 or whatever
[54:41] That's a planning board endorsement.
[54:43] That doesn't
[54:44] mean anything until it gets recorded
[54:46] into the registry of deeds. So, you want
[54:50] the the book and page and the date that
[54:53] it was recorded up in the as a as the
[54:58] reference of like if you're looking for
[55:00] the evidence and the chain of title of
[55:03] where where it's coming from,
[55:06] » That's what you're going to be looking
[55:07] for.
[55:09] So going back to the MISA document, we
[55:12] we want to say uh recorded
[55:16] at plan book
[55:20] uh one definitive subdivision of land
[55:23] for James Craraven prepared just leave
[55:26] out this dated with last revision or we
[55:30] could say recorded 41294
[55:36] instead of dated 19 last week.
[55:40] » I mean,
[55:42] you know, honestly, you just want to use
[55:45] the plan that the deed references if
[55:47] there's any
[55:49] » Or
[55:51] um
[55:55] so let me open my files maybe.
[56:02] Where's my deeds?
[56:07] Well, I didn't save the deeds.
[56:10] » I have it
[56:11] » The 18 41569
[56:15] page 181, right?
[56:19] » I have 41965.
[56:23] Uh, maybe I have it wrong here.
[56:27] [clears throat]
[56:28] » Oh my goodness.
[56:34] » 41569.
[56:36] So
[56:37] » 41569. Yeah.
[56:39] » Yeah. It's in the words. It's right when
[56:41] we go up to granters title that should
[56:44] be 41569
[56:47] instead of
[56:48] » 41569 page 181.
[56:51] » So that's the deed, right? And so in
[56:53] this one it says
[56:56] um
[56:58] blah blah blah. Three certain parcels of
[57:01] land shown on the plan entitled
[57:03] definitive subdivision plan in towns in
[57:06] Mass
[57:08] blah blah blah plan
[57:12] L1691-1/10
[57:16] in Middle South County Registry of Deeds
[57:19] plan book 244
[57:22] 9 page 249
[57:25] » On April 12th 1994. So that is the plan
[57:29] that you should reference.
[57:31] » Okay.
[57:34] » Right. Which one is that? That's
[57:37] [snorts] uh
[57:38] » That's the original one. It's the one
[57:39] that we just had. Yeah.
[57:42] » Yeah. I would say that if you if you
[57:45] want what is what is helpful,
[57:50] right, is to put the other maps into the
[57:53] baseline
[57:56] » If they're helpful.
[57:58] You can say for reference or for but I
[58:01] will let's see that's there's three
[58:04] pages of that map and I do see
[58:09] uh I don't see that um
[58:13] little kink in the road on the actual
[58:16] plan
[58:17] from the deed.
[58:20] » That is true.
[58:22] » Yeah. So that's that's why like
[58:26] [clears throat] um
[58:29] that's why you want the um
[58:35] the the the written out description
[58:38] of the meats and bounds
[58:41] because
[58:42] » Uh for the for the CR, right? Um
[58:46] because you can get all of these survey
[58:48] plans and
[58:51] you know th this this reference this
[58:55] plan doesn't have that little jog. That
[58:57] means that little jog doesn't exist
[58:59] right
[59:01] » Even though there's a plan that shows
[59:02] it.
[59:03] » I am telling you I had never seen that
[59:05] other plan the one that um
[59:08] » That Adam provided. I never saw that
[59:10] before.
[59:11] » Yeah. Yeah. So, so in the description of
[59:16] the CR,
[59:17] » We are taking out a lot of this and just
[59:20] the deed at U recorded at book 2449,
[59:26] page 249
[59:29] on a on April 12th, 1994.
[59:32] Is that correct?
[59:34] Um, so
[59:39] » I I put all this originally.
[59:42] » So yes, and then
[59:47] » So here's the the the other thing is
[59:49] that at the end of this we are going to
[59:52] have our own plan that has the just that
[59:55] has the CR on it. Right? So we have to
[59:59] remember that
[1:00:00] » Like the premises you know the the
[1:00:06] CR
[1:00:08] is [clears throat]
[1:00:10] on that it on that property right but it
[1:00:15] doesn't it doesn't follow the exact
[1:00:19] boundaries of that property right so
[1:00:23] what you're g so so it's located on the
[1:00:27] premises is
[1:00:29] you know the the premises I would say
[1:00:33] [sighs]
[1:00:36] » I think it's just like it's just like
[1:00:39] the water department plan
[1:00:42] you know which is on top of of that land
[1:00:46] you know
[1:00:47] » Right
[1:00:49] » So so all I'm saying is that like I
[1:00:51] think this is why EA is saying
[1:00:54] maybe take the description of the
[1:00:55] premises out of the preamble,
[1:00:58] you know, I and put it into the
[1:01:01] appendices
[1:01:03] that say um you know, per uh the
[1:01:08] following conservation restriction on
[1:01:11] land containing a portion of the 40 acre
[1:01:14] property include um
[1:01:19] uh uh
[1:01:23] um as defined on expan um on
[1:01:28] exhibit A or as described in exhibit A
[1:01:32] and shown on the recorded plan
[1:01:37] in exhibit B. And you're not going to
[1:01:39] have the recorded plan information until
[1:01:41] you record the plan.
[1:01:42] » So you just put a placeholder there.
[1:01:45] » That was what the TBD
[1:01:47] » Yeah. Right. Yep. And so I think we can
[1:01:51] say, you know, a portion of a 40 acre
[1:01:55] property
[1:01:57] um at um
[1:02:00] recorded in book
[1:02:03] uh 41569
[1:02:05] page 181 blah blah
[1:02:09] and further described in appendix A or
[1:02:14] further defined in appendix A and shown
[1:02:17] on recorded plan in appendix B and just
[1:02:19] leave it at that
[1:02:21] because otherwise
[1:02:23] um you're
[1:02:26] referring to
[1:02:28] more than you need to refer to, right?
[1:02:31] Um,
[1:02:33] as long as the deed is referenced that
[1:02:36] it's attached to
[1:02:41] I think we're we need that.
[1:02:50] All right. So, we need the premises
[1:02:54] described in the deed record book blah
[1:02:57] blah blah.
[1:03:01] But take out [clears throat]
[1:03:08] this part.
[1:03:11] Uh yeah. So [clears throat] yeah, take
[1:03:14] out that because um
[1:03:20] and the plan
[1:03:22] uh recorded at book TBD page TBD. Yeah.
[1:03:30] My husband just brought me some pizza,
[1:03:32] so I'm going to eat. I'm sorry.
[1:03:34] [laughter]
[1:03:36] » Go right ahead.
[1:03:40] » Okay. So then we don't need all the rest
[1:03:43] of this that also shown on
[1:03:46] » Other than um
[1:03:51] the very last sentence I think or maybe
[1:03:55] the a reduced copy of which is attached
[1:03:57] here too as exhibit B you know
[1:04:02] » So I would [clears throat] say um let's
[1:04:04] see I described and I don't um
[1:04:10] is is exhibit A the deed
[1:04:13] » Is a portion of the 48
[1:04:19] » And excluding the area.
[1:04:22] So can can we just say let's see the
[1:04:25] following conservation restriction on
[1:04:28] land
[1:04:30] uh
[1:04:33] located in towns in Mass. So just to so
[1:04:37] get rid of a portion of the 40 acre
[1:04:39] property
[1:04:41] I think in town's mass
[1:04:47] um portion of the 40 acre [laughter]
[1:04:51] » Look here you
[1:04:54] » Or maybe okay
[1:04:57] restriction on land containing a portion
[1:05:01] [clears throat]
[1:05:02] » That okay so keep sorry I'm sorry Selena
[1:05:06] You're okay.
[1:05:09] » So, um, so keep the portion of the 40
[1:05:12] acre property,
[1:05:14] but delete including parcels B1, B, B2,
[1:05:19] B1, parcel D, partial B3A, and excluding
[1:05:23] the area exhibit C. So it just says
[1:05:27] containing uh a portion of the 40 acre
[1:05:29] property located in towns of Mass
[1:05:32] Commonwealth of Massachusetts premises.
[1:05:36] Which premises is described in
[1:05:42] I would say
[1:05:48] um
[1:05:53] it's described
[1:05:55] in the D below and the plan recorded
[1:05:59] book page Middle Sex South
[1:06:04] and then period after registry of deeds
[1:06:07] period because we don't want and also
[1:06:09] shown on Squanak Motors
[1:06:12] because um
[1:06:15] the the yeah
[1:06:17] [clears throat] because the deed will
[1:06:19] reference that plan
[1:06:26] if the
[1:06:29] uh
[1:06:31] » So do we need this um registry of
[1:06:35] a reduced and then all the way to a
[1:06:38] reduced copy of which is attached here
[1:06:40] too as exhibit B or so as descri
[1:06:47] and and then you can also
[1:06:49] [clears throat]
[1:06:49] say
[1:06:53] a description of which is included in
[1:06:55] exhibit A and a reduced copy of which is
[1:06:58] attached here to as exhibit B.
[1:07:00] [clears throat]
[1:07:02] » Okay. Do we need this part about the
[1:07:05] plan book?
[1:07:07] » No.
[1:07:07] » Plan book?
[1:07:08] » No. Okay.
[1:07:19] Yes. And this is where we would say
[1:07:24] a description of which
[1:07:26] is attached here to as exhibit A.
[1:07:31] a legal description on which
[1:07:34] » You want to keep that. I would just add
[1:07:35] it in in front of the Yeah. In front of
[1:07:38] because you want to keep the reduced
[1:07:40] copy that
[1:07:43] » Yep.
[1:07:48] Oh, maybe now I can think a little
[1:07:50] clearer that I've got some food in my
[1:07:52] [laughter]
[1:07:53] It always helps to have the food
[1:08:00] and a reduced coffee. Yeah. Yeah, that
[1:08:03] looks good.
[1:08:05] » Does it need to say a legal description
[1:08:08] though?
[1:08:09] » Need the word legal.
[1:08:14] » Was that a yesing? Yeah, you can. Yeah,
[1:08:16] add legal description because that's
[1:08:18] what it will be.
[1:08:25] » And then I'd leave the the last sentence
[1:08:28] in.
[1:08:35] » Okay,
[1:08:37] [laughter]
[1:08:38] » So we have that one now.
[1:08:40] » That one. Gree cheers for Selena editing
[1:08:44] on the fly with everybody yelling at
[1:08:45] her. [laughter and gasps]
[1:08:48] » Okay, so that takes care of page one.
[1:08:51] Are the dates correct? Squan Cookook
[1:08:53] Meadows definitive subdivision of land
[1:08:55] blah blah blah. And then the next one,
[1:08:58] uh, the Tesa soccer complex is leased
[1:09:02] finalized placement of this piece or
[1:09:05] remove. So what did we do with it?
[1:09:09] All right. So, that was on page three,
[1:09:10] right?
[1:09:11] » Um, no page is really given here.
[1:09:17] One one. Maybe it is on page three. It's
[1:09:20] I
[1:09:23] There it is. Sorry. Yes, that was my
[1:09:25] next. Okay, that's this. Um, so when we
[1:09:30] talked at the last meeting, we suggested
[1:09:33] taking this
[1:09:35] sentence that's in I and moving it to be
[1:09:40] part of G,
[1:09:41] » But that didn't seem to make sense in my
[1:09:46] brain.
[1:09:46] » Okay.
[1:09:47] » So, my thought was, um,
[1:09:50] should it be a definition?
[1:09:55] » Oh, that's a good thought. Um,
[1:10:01] yeah, let's let's see where that would
[1:10:03] fit.
[1:10:09] I I wasn't sure where to put it,
[1:10:11] honestly. Selena like I don't know where
[1:10:14] this goes.
[1:10:17] All right. So, definitions
[1:10:21] um
[1:10:23] impervious structure
[1:10:28] passive recreation. Yeah, you could just
[1:10:30] put F, you know.
[1:10:41] Um, and then I guess you could just say
[1:10:44] Tesa Soccer Complex colon.
[1:10:47] » Yeah.
[1:10:53] » Um,
[1:10:56] described. Yeah.
[1:11:23] Oops.
[1:11:26] Okay.
[1:11:29] We good with that?
[1:11:31] » Yeah, I think that that's
[1:11:33] [clears throat] appropriate.
[1:11:35] » Okay.
[1:11:37] All right. So,
[1:11:40] um,
[1:11:42] the next thing I found, assuming I
[1:11:45] didn't forget something else I found
[1:11:46] before, [laughter]
[1:11:49] um, oh, Veronica, did you have a chance
[1:11:52] to check on the
[1:11:54] » I did not.
[1:11:55] » Okay,
[1:11:56] » I still have this material. Let me look
[1:11:58] at that.
[1:12:03] » It was whether or not the well would
[1:12:05] have chlorine.
[1:12:07] » Okay. or other have you know I just
[1:12:10] didn't want
[1:12:12] there to be a conflict between what the
[1:12:14] well require like what the what they
[1:12:17] needed
[1:12:19] » You know
[1:12:19] » Yeah let me talk to um water about that
[1:12:23] nothing I don't think is added at the
[1:12:26] wellhead
[1:12:27] » But if this is a um prohibited use and
[1:12:30] then in the allowed uses we say
[1:12:34] what the well means does that cover
[1:12:37] that.
[1:12:40] It may
[1:12:42] » You it it so
[1:12:47] potentially
[1:12:51] it's very broad. The well the the
[1:12:54] allowance for the well is very broad. It
[1:12:57] and um
[1:13:00] let's just jump down there for a second
[1:13:01] because I need to refresh
[1:13:05] my memory.
[1:13:07] Right. That's
[1:13:08] » Use of the area as a well
[1:13:12] as described in the deed and outlined in
[1:13:15] the towns and bylaw section.
[1:13:19] Uh so
[1:13:24] um
[1:13:29] I don't know does that cover it? Um
[1:13:34] » Cuz the bylaw I'm pretty sure
[1:13:38] [clears throat]
[1:13:44] [laughter]
[1:13:48] like they say no toxic or hazardous
[1:13:50] materials as well. [clears throat]
[1:13:54] Um,
[1:14:07] yeah. If it's not a if it's not a thing,
[1:14:09] it's not a thing. Um,
[1:14:15] I don't think it is.
[1:14:20] » All right, then we can resolve that
[1:14:21] comment. And because I I I didn't know,
[1:14:25] so I was just bringing it up. I don't
[1:14:27] want to create
[1:14:29] » I'm gonna have Dave Van check that. I'm
[1:14:32] just going to ask him to just check
[1:14:34] that. Make sure that that meets his
[1:14:35] uses. It should.
[1:14:37] » Yeah,
[1:14:37] » It should. Okay,
[1:14:42] » Great. So, we can resolve it.
[1:14:44] [sighs and gasps]
[1:14:45] » Okay, good.
[1:14:47] » All right. [clears throat] Um,
[1:14:50] so then the next thing
[1:14:54] I found was
[1:14:56] here. Okay. [clears throat] Um,
[1:15:00] I think soccer is supposed to be playing
[1:15:02] fields, not soccer.
[1:15:05] » Yeah, let's do playing fields. Yeah. Um
[1:15:08] [clears throat]
[1:15:09] and then
[1:15:12] we say the division of fisheries and
[1:15:14] wildlife but it was defined as
[1:15:18] referred to as division. So I think we
[1:15:21] should remove the of fisheries and
[1:15:23] wildlife
[1:15:25] » Um [clears throat]
[1:15:25] » Up in the definitions or something or in
[1:15:28] the
[1:15:28] » Definitions
[1:15:30] or but is this okay? Yeah, it's in the
[1:15:33] beginning.
[1:15:35] Um,
[1:15:38] as long as they say the Division of
[1:15:40] Fisheries and Wildlife is referred to as
[1:15:42] the division, I think it's fine.
[1:15:46] » Okay. Same here.
[1:15:51] [clears throat]
[1:15:53] Um, and then
[1:15:56] we have where permitted twice. Where was
[1:15:59] that one?
[1:16:04] Somewhere in here
[1:16:08] » Where permitted
[1:16:10] » Here
[1:16:11] » Is where
[1:16:12] » Permitted [laughter]
[1:16:15] » Place. Yeah, we have it twice.
[1:16:19] » Where? Yeah,
[1:16:20] » I would say we're permitted by this
[1:16:22] conservation restriction. Got the other
[1:16:25] where permitted. Yeah, the one at the
[1:16:27] end.
[1:16:29] » Okay.
[1:16:29] » And then there's another division of
[1:16:31] fisheries and wildlife.
[1:16:33] Yeah, which can just be the division
[1:16:36] right underneath it.
[1:16:38] » Looks like that text is from their
[1:16:40] template.
[1:16:41] » I think it is.
[1:16:44] I can double check. I have it pulled up.
[1:16:47] I had it
[1:16:48] » Which is I mean [clears throat] I just
[1:16:50] think it's amusing.
[1:16:54] Yeah, I found a bunch of those type of
[1:16:56] errors in their template where they
[1:16:59] [laughter]
[1:17:01] they did things and then they uh didn't
[1:17:05] do the same thing later.
[1:17:09] Okay, so that's the where permitted.
[1:17:12] There's another division of fisheries
[1:17:14] and wildlife in the next line
[1:17:21] [clears throat]
[1:17:22] » And apparently I deleted us.
[1:17:29] [clears throat] Okay.
[1:17:32] All right. Next thing is just a little
[1:17:34] below.
[1:17:38] Um that's the Wellfield.
[1:17:41] Ah this exhibit.
[1:17:45] Um
[1:17:48] » Is this where you want to put um
[1:17:54] » So we said we needed
[1:17:56] » Other map
[1:17:59] the
[1:18:02] that the sideboard sentence
[1:18:04] » Really call out like that there'll be a
[1:18:06] road there. It just shows that that
[1:18:10] right
[1:18:12] » Access
[1:18:13] [laughter]
[1:18:14] » Right um
[1:18:19] » As described in the deed and outlined
[1:18:23] um
[1:18:25] I would put it in what would that be
[1:18:28] exhibit D
[1:18:29] » Well well um Ronnie could we just say as
[1:18:34] shown on the CR R plan
[1:18:39] exhibit B
[1:18:43] cuz it cuz that has the road.
[1:18:45] » It does have it and it's spelled out.
[1:18:48] Yeah.
[1:18:50] Um,
[1:18:52] that might be the simplest
[1:18:55] » Because I because I think even I mean
[1:18:57] the the uh
[1:19:01] like you're saying it doesn't show the
[1:19:02] road on the plan that the select board
[1:19:05] uh or this the town administrator said,
[1:19:08] but the um and it also has that weird
[1:19:11] jog that we don't think is actually
[1:19:13] there.
[1:19:17] That is a bit
[1:19:20] Exhibit B.
[1:19:22] » Yeah,
[1:19:22] » Is a [clears throat] reduced survey,
[1:19:24] right?
[1:19:25] » Yeah. The shown in exhibit.
[1:19:29] » Yeah.
[1:19:33] » Not to be consume confused with parcel
[1:19:36] B, [laughter]
[1:19:38] » Right?
[1:19:43] » Okay.
[1:19:51] Um,
[1:19:56] [laughter]
[1:20:02] oh yeah, one of the places
[1:20:05] where they
[1:20:09] so they used division here, but it's not
[1:20:13] the division like it is everywhere else,
[1:20:15] including in the very next sentence.
[1:20:21] » I I was a um put athe in. [laughter]
[1:20:27] » I was a tech writer for a long time. So,
[1:20:31] » It's amazing. It's a I love it. I love
[1:20:34] it so much. And And we're going to be
[1:20:36] giving them like a really really good
[1:20:39] CR. Well, you should be like, "Listen,
[1:20:42] you should send this as your template
[1:20:44] next time. [laughter]
[1:20:46] That's right.
[1:20:49] All right. Um,
[1:20:51] then
[1:20:52] we go to the last page before the
[1:20:57] signatures.
[1:21:07] Right here. Uh, no, not right there.
[1:21:10] Sorry. Right here. [laughter]
[1:21:12] Okay. So, I was looking at the original
[1:21:17] template and for this homestead thing,
[1:21:21] » Um, it had this first paragraph and then
[1:21:26] the word or the second paragraph.
[1:21:29] [clears throat]
[1:21:29] » Yes.
[1:21:30] » Um,
[1:21:32] so I'm not sure this first paragraph
[1:21:35] applies.
[1:21:37] It it probably so
[1:21:44] the
[1:21:49] basically a conser well we can try to
[1:21:52] take it out. EA might
[1:21:56] » I'm wondering if this second paragraph
[1:21:59] is better than the first. So, I'm gonna
[1:22:02] reject [clears throat] this change for a
[1:22:04] minute.
[1:22:04] » Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.
[1:22:05] » We can
[1:22:11] » Well, so,
[1:22:15] » Right. [clears throat] So,
[1:22:22] [clears throat]
[1:22:28] neither of them apply.
[1:22:30] » They don't apply. This [laughter] is
[1:22:32] » Neither.
[1:22:33] So, [clears throat] so here there's the
[1:22:37] I issue for me was like,
[1:22:41] you know, there's no homestead. Like, we
[1:22:43] want to say
[1:22:45] nobody's living on the property. Nobody
[1:22:48] can claim this
[1:22:50] as their homestead because basically the
[1:22:53] like legally speaking
[1:22:56] what this these two paragraphs are
[1:22:59] trying to get at is are there is there
[1:23:01] anybody who has rights to this land that
[1:23:05] could come and supersede the the
[1:23:09] conservation restrictions. So they want
[1:23:11] to know does the bank have a mortgage on
[1:23:14] the property? Is there somebody else who
[1:23:16] has title? Is there is there a homestead
[1:23:18] or something where somebody can claim
[1:23:20] that, you know, this is this is their
[1:23:22] where they live, their their place of
[1:23:25] residence?
[1:23:27] So, it could be that
[1:23:30] maybe this the town solicitor I don't we
[1:23:34] could what we could do is just take out
[1:23:36] both and just see what they do.
[1:23:42] Um, I I think we have to say that there
[1:23:46] is no homestead there because like those
[1:23:49] three acres that I just gave to fish and
[1:23:51] wildlife, we had to have a thing about,
[1:23:56] you know, that there's no homestead on
[1:23:58] those three acres. So,
[1:24:00] » And I guess and I guess the
[1:24:04] so the so
[1:24:08] I think you
[1:24:13] [sighs]
[1:24:14] so the second one paragraph specifically
[1:24:17] talks about like leans on the property
[1:24:19] basically and that if you have
[1:24:22] if you have like anything on your title
[1:24:25] where somebody else could could like a
[1:24:28] mortgage age, home equity, line of
[1:24:30] credit,
[1:24:32] um any sort of like tax lean, whatever
[1:24:36] that that you can have those things, but
[1:24:39] they have to be subordinated to the
[1:24:42] conservation restriction. You need a
[1:24:44] letter from your financial institution
[1:24:47] saying that the
[1:24:49] » CR comes first and then
[1:24:52] » I don't think that's part of this
[1:24:55] paragraph. I think that's its own
[1:24:57] standalone. That was a
[1:25:00] » Oh, beyond that. Oh, is that below that?
[1:25:03] » Yeah.
[1:25:04] » Oh, maybe I just I just assumed that
[1:25:07] that's what that was.
[1:25:09] » No, this three is a separate thing.
[1:25:13] » Yeah, I know. I see that now. I see that
[1:25:15] now. What I'm saying is like maybe I
[1:25:17] thought that this second paragraph was
[1:25:19] the third paragraph as well. Um but
[1:25:23] still
[1:25:35] well I guess it's the question for the
[1:25:37] town if the granter reserves and retains
[1:25:41] any and all homestead rights.
[1:25:44] Do you want that or do you just want to
[1:25:47] say we attest that there are no
[1:25:50] » It'll right it's neither
[1:25:54] » Neither
[1:25:56] works because it's not a homestead.
[1:25:58] » I know [laughter]
[1:26:00] but I guess maybe the first one does
[1:26:02] basically say it's not a homestead.
[1:26:06] » I think that's why we picked that. It
[1:26:10] seems like the template is saying to us,
[1:26:13] choose one of those paragraphs,
[1:26:16] » Right? And I think Yeah, I think I was
[1:26:19] saying I out of those two, the first one
[1:26:23] makes slightly more sense to me, but
[1:26:25] neither of them actually fit.
[1:26:28] [clears throat]
[1:26:33] And maybe maybe that's an like you're
[1:26:36] saying Selena, maybe that's a question
[1:26:37] for the the like the town solicitor or
[1:26:41] something.
[1:26:42] You know, what are the implications to
[1:26:44] the town if they choose one or the
[1:26:47] other?
[1:26:49] » Okay.
[1:26:50] » So, I'll put a note here.
[1:27:15] Okay. So then I noticed
[1:27:19] in this paragraph
[1:27:22] um
[1:27:24] that Anna had put a question that we
[1:27:26] didn't talk about last time.
[1:27:29] » I Oh, I I did ask and Ronnie said no.
[1:27:34] » No, there isn't Danny. Okay. So then we
[1:27:37] should put in this text, right?
[1:27:43] Um,
[1:27:47] » Sure.
[1:27:48] » Yeah, it wouldn't hurt to do that.
[1:27:51] » That text is from EA,
[1:27:57] » The EA template, so they're hopefully
[1:28:01] they'll accept it. I don't know
[1:28:07] » If the if if Misa doesn't um says oh no
[1:28:14] E O EA when we submit it to them will
[1:28:16] come back and say this needs to be in
[1:28:18] there. [laughter]
[1:28:22] » Yeah.
[1:28:30] [clears throat]
[1:28:31] Okay.
[1:28:33] So then I will
[1:28:36] close that comment.
[1:28:40] All right. Um
[1:28:44] that was it other than making sure that
[1:28:46] the exhibits are what they are supposed
[1:28:49] to be. So the description of the
[1:28:51] premises.
[1:28:54] » Yeah.
[1:28:55] » The reduced copy and then the TESA
[1:28:58] soccer complex.
[1:29:02] So, with the um map
[1:29:08] that we reviewed tonight, it actually
[1:29:11] calls out the Tesa Soccer Complex as
[1:29:13] part of that map.
[1:29:15] [cough and clears throat]
[1:29:16] So, I'm not sure if we need exhibit C or
[1:29:19] if we just refer to exhibit B
[1:29:24] in all those spuns.
[1:29:26] » Oh, I see what you're saying.
[1:29:31] Now, I I have a question.
[1:29:34] What happens? So, we're doing a 50-year
[1:29:36] lease lease. What happens if and and I I
[1:29:40] say this not because I think taste is
[1:29:42] going away, but my son played for PATU
[1:29:45] hockey and it no longer exists.
[1:29:47] » Yes.
[1:29:48] » So, should we be calling it Ali's
[1:29:52] Playground?
[1:29:54] I I'm I'm I mean, yes, [laughter] but
[1:29:57] I'm serious because what if it becomes
[1:30:01] something else like it could become
[1:30:03] lacrosse fields or
[1:30:05] » Right. And that's why we referred to it
[1:30:07] as playing fields rather than soccer
[1:30:10] fields. And the reason I called it the
[1:30:12] Tesa Soccer Complex was because that's
[1:30:15] how we
[1:30:18] » Made our plan, right?
[1:30:20] » Yeah. Um, so I I'm just wondering if and
[1:30:24] Anna maybe you can answer this question
[1:30:26] too. How do we make it that that playing
[1:30:29] area is how do we refer to that so that
[1:30:33] it doesn't have to be a a soccer
[1:30:38] complex?
[1:30:39] » So in perpetuity,
[1:30:41] » I think calling it the TA soccer complex
[1:30:44] is not saying it has to be. It just says
[1:30:48] that's what we called it on this map
[1:30:50] that you're looking at. Okay.
[1:30:52] » And we couldn't call it Holly's
[1:30:54] playground because that's the entire
[1:30:57] parcel
[1:30:58] including the CR part.
[1:31:02] » Huh. Okay. But we could instead of
[1:31:05] saying Tesa Soccer Complex, we could
[1:31:07] just call it the
[1:31:10] » Field complex.
[1:31:12] » Yeah.
[1:31:12] » Planefield complex. Or Yeah.
[1:31:14] » Yeah. Let's Let's do that. Let's playing
[1:31:17] field complex. [laughter]
[1:31:20] » So again,
[1:31:23] » Just so part of exhibit B or does it
[1:31:26] need to have its own?
[1:31:28] » I think it could exhibit
[1:31:29] » I think it could be its own it's I mean
[1:31:32] I think we could refer to exhibit B
[1:31:36] » Everywhere.
[1:31:38] » I I don't think there would be any
[1:31:39] problem with that. thing field somewhere
[1:31:43] as I would say um shown in instead of
[1:31:48] described
[1:31:50] » Y
[1:31:51] » Um
[1:31:53] » Shown in
[1:31:55] uh expansion plans um exhibit B is shown
[1:31:59] in exhibit B. Yeah.
[1:32:01] » Yeah.
[1:32:04] And just call it something. The playing
[1:32:06] field complex is a generic thing.
[1:32:10] So,
[1:32:11] » So exhibit B shouldn't say TASA
[1:32:14] soccer fields or whatever it says.
[1:32:18] » I'm going to get to that one.
[1:32:20] » So, that Okay. So, that has to be
[1:32:23] changed, too.
[1:32:25] » Okay.
[1:32:28] » So, we only have then exhibit A and
[1:32:30] exhibit B.
[1:32:32] » [clears throat]
[1:32:32] » The description of the premises, legal
[1:32:35] description of the premises, and the
[1:32:37] reduced copy of the recorded plan.
[1:32:43] » So, under definitions, we're not going
[1:32:45] to have Tesa soccer complex anymore.
[1:32:48] » It's going to be playing field complex
[1:32:50] instead.
[1:32:51] » Okay.
[1:32:53] Thank um yeah, I was just going to say
[1:32:56] or should we just say recreation
[1:32:58] complex,
[1:32:59] but
[1:33:00] » There's an idea that works. Yeah, that
[1:33:04] works too.
[1:33:06] » That makes it very generic.
[1:33:09] » Yeah.
[1:33:10] » Recreation.
[1:33:13] » Okay.
[1:33:14] » [sighs and gasps]
[1:33:18] » Which is should we say which is leased
[1:33:20] by the town
[1:33:22] » Or just
[1:33:26] » It's owned by the town.
[1:33:29] » Um
[1:33:31] » We can just leave that out. We don't
[1:33:33] have to Okay. Because who knows? I mean
[1:33:36] it at some point
[1:33:38] » In 51 years it may not be leased
[1:33:41] anymore. It could be that the town is in
[1:33:45] a different place and using the
[1:33:47] recreation department is doing something
[1:33:50] there. I I don't know. I mean, who
[1:33:53] knows?
[1:33:56] » Yeah.
[1:34:00] Recreation complex. And
[1:34:05] this was my job for a long time.
[1:34:08] » You're so good at it. I'm I am
[1:34:11] » Way better than me.
[1:34:13] » We are so lucky.
[1:34:15] » I know. Oh my gosh.
[1:34:18] » Selena, I could uh if you want a summer
[1:34:22] gig.
[1:34:23] [laughter]
[1:34:26] help me with my chat. [laughter]
[1:34:31] » I This is, you know, I got so many
[1:34:35] conservation
[1:34:36] projects that [laughter] I could use
[1:34:38] technical assistance with. Technical
[1:34:40] writing assistance.
[1:34:44] » Okay. Unless I forgot anything I
[1:34:46] included in my email to you guys
[1:34:49] originally.
[1:34:50] » I think the last What was the last? Let
[1:34:52] me I have your email. I think it might
[1:34:54] have been the exhibits part.
[1:34:55] » It's the exhibits. Yeah.
[1:34:58] Um, exhibits in the final list at the
[1:35:00] end of the document is the description
[1:35:02] of the premises. B is the reduced copy
[1:35:05] of the plan.
[1:35:06] » Yeah.
[1:35:07] » C is the taste of soccer complex, but
[1:35:09] we're removing C.
[1:35:10] » Yeah.
[1:35:11] » We also mentioned in the allowed uses
[1:35:13] that there should be an exhibit of the
[1:35:14] well building and access, but we fixed
[1:35:16] that already.
[1:35:17] » Yep.
[1:35:18] » But we don't have anything exhibits for
[1:35:19] this yet. So, and that is the entirety
[1:35:22] of we've gotten everything else.
[1:35:24] » Okay.
[1:35:26] So,
[1:35:28] » All right. All right.
[1:35:31] » I think we can send this over to is it
[1:35:34] Misty?
[1:35:36] » Misty. Misty.
[1:35:39] » Yeah.
[1:35:42] » All right. So, that is review of CR and
[1:35:45] next steps. So the next steps is to send
[1:35:48] it to Miss Deianne and see what she
[1:35:50] says.
[1:35:51] » Do we need the map from Dillis and Roy
[1:35:55] before we send this [clears throat] to
[1:35:56] Missanne?
[1:35:57] » Um, we could I think we should give her
[1:36:00] the existing map with the caveat that
[1:36:03] things
[1:36:04] » Be edited slightly.
[1:36:05] » Edited. Yeah,
[1:36:08] » That's what I think. What do you think,
[1:36:09] Anna? Do you think that'll confuse her?
[1:36:12] No.
[1:36:12] » Good.
[1:36:13] » I don't think so. I think it's close
[1:36:15] enough.
[1:36:16] And it gives it that gives her a a good
[1:36:20] sense of what we're trying to do. I
[1:36:22] mean,
[1:36:24] » It's not majorly different.
[1:36:27] » She may have some of the same comments
[1:36:29] on the map that we did. Yeah.
[1:36:32] » Um, we're putting the habitat management
[1:36:35] piece in as part of the BDR. Correct.
[1:36:38] » Yes.
[1:36:39] » She It's possible that she'll ask about
[1:36:41] that because she's concerned about the
[1:36:44] habitat. Should we send her that and
[1:36:47] just as well and say this will be part
[1:36:51] of the BDR?
[1:36:54] » I I don't know.
[1:36:55] » Yes, I think you should send her that.
[1:36:57] And um can you scroll up to the baseline
[1:37:02] um section?
[1:37:04] There's a part of my brain which is very
[1:37:07] unreliable.
[1:37:08] [clears throat]
[1:37:09] » Might
[1:37:11] think we might have
[1:37:14] this section or the baseline.
[1:37:16] » That's the one.
[1:37:17] » Okay.
[1:37:19] » So,
[1:37:22] okay. Um,
[1:37:25] never mind. Nope, that doesn't have it.
[1:37:27] But maybe within the reserve, right? I
[1:37:30] is there some reference to the There is
[1:37:32] a reference to the management plan in
[1:37:35] this, isn't there?
[1:37:37] » It was in here somewhere cuz we changed
[1:37:40] to Oh, that was in the minutes.
[1:37:45] Never mind. [laughter]
[1:37:49] um
[1:37:56] » Could be in the um permitted uses like
[1:38:02] um
[1:38:09] habitat mission.
[1:38:12] » I think they called it a conservation
[1:38:15] » The conservation
[1:38:16] » Management plan or something. There you
[1:38:18] go. All actions and activities require
[1:38:21] authorization by the conservation
[1:38:23] management permit.
[1:38:26] Um,
[1:38:29] conservation restriction.
[1:38:31] Uh, scroll up a little bit.
[1:38:38] So, the CMP requires habitat registr
[1:38:40] restoration.
[1:38:45] Replicable CMP requirements. Uh
[1:38:51] maybe under
[1:38:54] » There was more for CM.
[1:38:56] » I I so the CMP I thought the
[1:39:03] » The permit but do we do the habitat
[1:39:07] management plan? We have to submit the
[1:39:10] habitat management plan in order to get
[1:39:15] » The conservation management permit.
[1:39:19] » Okay.
[1:39:22] » Yeah,
[1:39:22] » That's right, Emily. That's right. So, I
[1:39:26] think maybe we had talked about
[1:39:32] not needing to reference the plan
[1:39:35] because the permit requires the plan. Is
[1:39:39] that right?
[1:39:40] » Yes. I I think that Misty needs the
[1:39:43] habitat management plan first.
[1:39:50] They're not going to accept the the CR
[1:39:53] without
[1:39:56] having seen our habitat management plan
[1:39:59] and okaying it,
[1:40:02] » But I think we can submit them both at
[1:40:04] the same time.
[1:40:05] » Yeah.
[1:40:09] » All right. So,
[1:40:11] » I was just thinking to myself like,
[1:40:14] you know, should the should the plan be
[1:40:17] referenced in the CR? And I don't think
[1:40:20] it needs to be if the permit is
[1:40:23] referenced in the CR because
[1:40:24] » Right
[1:40:26] » You can't get the permit without the
[1:40:28] plan.
[1:40:29] » Right.
[1:40:31] » So Selena, are you going to send that
[1:40:35] all to Miss Deianne?
[1:40:39] » That is the question. Um do you want me
[1:40:42] to send it on behalf of the town? Do you
[1:40:45] want me to set that to because it seemed
[1:40:48] because the town is the land owner,
[1:40:51] » Right?
[1:40:52] » Should we be doing that with Miss
[1:40:54] Deianne because the the thing from Brian
[1:40:59] came to the town?
[1:41:00] » Yep.
[1:41:00] » Um and so uh
[1:41:04] um I think we should probably do it, but
[1:41:06] let me check tomorrow and I'll let you
[1:41:08] know. And I can if I didn't already, I
[1:41:11] think I did, but I can always send or
[1:41:14] resend the habitat management plan for
[1:41:17] you to
[1:41:18] » Yeah, you could do that.
[1:41:20] » So, I will need this. I will need the
[1:41:23] habitat management plan and I will need
[1:41:25] Miss Deian's email.
[1:41:27] » Um, and I would CC you on what we send.
[1:41:31] » Yeah.
[1:41:32] » And um, and then the question is, do I
[1:41:34] send it or does Kieran? I think it
[1:41:37] » Or do we want Dan from LEC who helped us
[1:41:40] with the [clears throat] um the habitat
[1:41:43] to send these?
[1:41:46] » He might get um
[1:41:50] response or faster response
[1:41:54] » Response from her than we had.
[1:41:57] » Should he both or just the habitat plan?
[1:42:00] » I don't know. He should probably do the
[1:42:02] habitat plan. We should probably do the
[1:42:05] the um CR.
[1:42:09] That's what I think
[1:42:12] cuz he is Wow. It's so
[1:42:16] » Yes.
[1:42:18] » Ronnie.
[1:42:20] » Yes.
[1:42:20] » What about this? What about if you send
[1:42:24] both and CC
[1:42:27] Matt
[1:42:28] » On it?
[1:42:31] [clears throat]
[1:42:31] » Dan. Dan.
[1:42:32] » Dan. I'm sorry.
[1:42:34] » Yeah. Okay. Um and I don't know just or
[1:42:38] could it be sent by both the town of
[1:42:43] Townsen and Tesa?
[1:42:46] » Well, we don't have a joint email. I
[1:42:49] mean, I I would CC Tesa on it.
[1:42:52] » So, the town sends and CC's Dan
[1:42:58] uh Tesa
[1:43:00] ETC. Okay. Mhm.
[1:43:02] » Let me find out.
[1:43:06] Um and and yes, send me the what we did
[1:43:09] today for the plan and the habitat
[1:43:13] management plan
[1:43:14] » And then [clears throat] we'll get that
[1:43:15] out. Um and uh so that is our next step.
[1:43:23] All right.
[1:43:25] On budget and funding, can I move on?
[1:43:29] Um, I just want to be clear for the
[1:43:31] minutes. So, who's going to be sending
[1:43:34] the stuff to Miss Deianne?
[1:43:37] » Um, Veronica is going to
[1:43:40] determine who is sending
[1:43:43] » And then it will be sent.
[1:43:45] » Yes.
[1:43:46] » And the goal is to have it out by Monday
[1:43:48] or on Monday.
[1:43:55] All right. So, I don't Did I email you
[1:43:59] this? [laughter]
[1:44:00] » No.
[1:44:00] » The budget. Can I email it to you right
[1:44:02] now?
[1:44:04] » Um, I'm going to email I [clears throat]
[1:44:05] did I took the budget that um Anna sent
[1:44:10] me and I kind of munched it and um let
[1:44:14] me do new mail to Tesa.
[1:44:18] Um
[1:44:20] see our budget and I just want to go
[1:44:23] over it quickly. Um,
[1:44:28] need an attachment. So, just give me one
[1:44:30] minute.
[1:44:34] [clears throat] Let me see where I am.
[1:44:43] I think this is the right one.
[1:44:49] So, throw it up there and see. We'll see
[1:44:51] what comes up.
[1:44:54] Um
[1:44:58] the uh survey um
[1:45:01] uh invoice got sent to the town by
[1:45:05] Dillis and Roy. Um
[1:45:08] and uh so that means that we have to go
[1:45:12] out for bids to get two others. And
[1:45:16] Kieran is seeing whether or not he can
[1:45:18] use what Selena has already done because
[1:45:20] we did, if you read the lease, we allow
[1:45:23] you to do this, right?
[1:45:24] » And we signed the MISA permit with the
[1:45:27] select board back in January.
[1:45:31] So, um, the permit application.
[1:45:33] [clears throat]
[1:45:34] So, um, in any event, uh, we had thought
[1:45:39] it was going to go directly to NRWA, but
[1:45:42] it didn't. And so that means that it has
[1:45:45] to um follow the process, but Selena did
[1:45:48] get other bids. So um there's that.
[1:45:52] » We have an Apple to non-Apple
[1:45:57] issue
[1:45:57] » Issue. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't PDF
[1:46:02] it, but that's what I have to do. I use
[1:46:05] numbers. Okay. I'm sorry.
[1:46:06] » That's okay.
[1:46:07] » Let me open this um file, export to PDF.
[1:46:13] Um,
[1:46:18] okay. Let me try sending it again.
[1:46:25] All right.
[1:46:33] Okay. I'm just going to
[1:46:55] » [clears throat]
[1:46:56] » See if it works.
[1:46:59] Did you get it?
[1:47:00] » Not yet.
[1:47:03] [clears throat]
[1:47:06] Make sure the right
[1:47:10] there. Is that better? Is it a PDF?
[1:47:23] » No.
[1:47:26] [clears throat and laughter]
[1:47:28] » I'm sorry.
[1:47:29] » Oh, wait. No. Here it is.
[1:47:31] » You got it.
[1:47:32] » Yes.
[1:47:33] » Okay.
[1:47:34] Okay.
[1:47:40] I just did this this afternoon
[1:47:42] right before I sent you the the agenda.
[1:47:45] Anna,
[1:47:47] did you get that earlier, by the way?
[1:47:49] Had you received that or was that the
[1:47:51] first time you got the agenda
[1:47:53] » When I got it earlier?
[1:47:56] » You did? Okay, that's
[1:47:58] » Yeah,
[1:48:00] » I I actually do appreciate you sending
[1:48:02] it again because my days are so full.
[1:48:05] I'm like, I don't have to look for it.
[1:48:08] » Right. I understand.
[1:48:13] » There we go.
[1:48:13] » Um, so this is budget and I I was just
[1:48:17] um I I went through and I edited things.
[1:48:20] So, anyhow, um
[1:48:23] » The land is donated. recording fees.
[1:48:26] There's 210 in there. I'll bet that
[1:48:28] that's low because I think that the fees
[1:48:31] have been increased at the registry. I'm
[1:48:33] not sure, but I it's an estimate column
[1:48:36] there. The um the survey has come in at
[1:48:40] 24,500.
[1:48:42] Um which is higher than I expected. And
[1:48:46] so I put that in both the estimate and
[1:48:48] the actual. I should have put 10,000 in
[1:48:52] the estimate because that was what the
[1:48:53] 10,000 was. But um anyhow
[1:48:56] [clears throat] doesn't matter. Uh so
[1:49:00] under um indirect project costs there's
[1:49:03] the cost for the land stewardship and
[1:49:06] the legal defense. Then the baseline
[1:49:09] documentation and Anna this is what I
[1:49:11] wanted to ask you. I put 8,000 in there.
[1:49:14] The number that was in there and what
[1:49:16] you sent me was like 4,200.
[1:49:19] But um and also if you know of people
[1:49:24] that do this sort of work that you like,
[1:49:26] if you could email me those, that would
[1:49:28] be helpful.
[1:49:29] » Yeah, I can email you that. I think, you
[1:49:33] know, it depends on
[1:49:36] if you got a private contractor, it'll
[1:49:38] probably be less. Um, but
[1:49:42] then if you hired like LEC to do it, but
[1:49:48] LEC could do it that, you know,
[1:49:52] um, I'd say North County Land Trust
[1:49:54] could do it, but I don't have time, so
[1:49:57] I'm gonna let somebody else do it.
[1:50:00] » You're the CR holder, too, so I don't
[1:50:02] know.
[1:50:03] » Oh, well, CR holders can do it. Um
[1:50:06] » Oh, they can. Okay.
[1:50:08] » Yep. Um,
[1:50:10] » Yeah. But
[1:50:11] » But but I don't I would I would prefer
[1:50:15] to
[1:50:17] have [clears throat] someone else do it
[1:50:19] just because, you know, the contractors
[1:50:22] who do who are doing it all the time,
[1:50:24] they just that's what they do. They set
[1:50:25] their set up for it and all that stuff.
[1:50:27] So,
[1:50:28] » Okay.
[1:50:28] » Um, sometimes, uh, foresters can do it.
[1:50:32] Some foresters do it. Uh, anyway, I'll
[1:50:34] send you my list and
[1:50:35] » Okay. And I'll check with the
[1:50:38] conservation commission or Mike maybe
[1:50:39] you can to see who they've used for DDR.
[1:50:43] » Sure.
[1:50:44] » Yeah, they probably know. Um because
[1:50:47] we'll have to
[1:50:48] » Procure that.
[1:50:50] » Yeah.
[1:50:52] » Um so anyway,
[1:50:55] there's that.
[1:50:57] So going down under revenue forecast. So
[1:51:00] I was looking at this. you had uh the
[1:51:02] community foundation down there for what
[1:51:06] you know for that old budget. Um and so
[1:51:10] I just I left them there with a question
[1:51:13] and it's for stewardship and fees. So I
[1:51:15] combined the 2600 and the 210. I don't
[1:51:19] know [clears throat] if my numbers are
[1:51:20] exactly right there but anyway I didn't
[1:51:23] know what toot was
[1:51:26] » Uh town of towns.
[1:51:28] » Town of towns. Okay. Um, [laughter]
[1:51:32] I never thought of us as taught, but
[1:51:34] yeah. Okay. Um, legal defense was 3,500.
[1:51:40] And then the Marian started greenway
[1:51:42] funds. That's for the survey. Land
[1:51:45] conservation assisting grant. I just
[1:51:48] pulled that up today and I'm going to
[1:51:50] start communicating with them tomorrow.
[1:51:53] » And it's Daria Mattis is the person.
[1:51:56] » Dar. Yep. Daria Mattis. Yep.
[1:51:59] » Daria Mattis. Do you know her, Anna?
[1:52:01] » I do.
[1:52:03] » Um I'm late. Um
[1:52:06] » Yes,
[1:52:06] » They
[1:52:07] » Uh April and I haven't had any contact
[1:52:10] beyond that um thing that I went to in
[1:52:13] October where uh
[1:52:17] » Um you know who I mean the woman
[1:52:21] » And she uh she told me about this fund,
[1:52:26] » But hadn't done anything with it since
[1:52:28] then. other um anyway, but I do think we
[1:52:33] do qualify for that for the BDR.
[1:52:36] » Yeah, you absolutely do. I would
[1:52:37] definitely call her. She's very lovely,
[1:52:40] very nice, very approachable. And uh
[1:52:43] just talk to her because she may have
[1:52:45] insights. I don't know how far down that
[1:52:47] fund has been spent. It's spent.
[1:52:50] » It's first comes first serve and it's
[1:52:53] kind of towards the end of their period.
[1:52:54] So she'll she'll be she'll steer steer
[1:52:58] you right and it's a very very simple
[1:53:02] application form. So
[1:53:03] » I I looked through that and I thought
[1:53:05] okay having this budget helps for part
[1:53:09] of the application anyway.
[1:53:11] » Yeah.
[1:53:11] » Um and um anyway so I will talk to her
[1:53:15] then. Do you think 8,000 is about the
[1:53:18] right amount
[1:53:20] » For a BDR? I mean, [clears throat]
[1:53:26] I think that's high, honestly.
[1:53:29] » You had it at something like 42, which
[1:53:33] seemed low to me.
[1:53:34] » Yeah. I mean,
[1:53:36] » We had said, we had said 5,000 before.
[1:53:40] » Yeah. Yeah. So, I I think I think, you
[1:53:44] know, 5,000 would be
[1:53:48] uh on the higher end of what I would pay
[1:53:50] for a BDR of for a pro for land this
[1:53:54] size and the amount of [snorts]
[1:53:57] um items that you're
[1:54:00] interested in including. Um, I suppose
[1:54:04] if you
[1:54:06] Yeah, there's not really anything
[1:54:10] overly complicated about this uh BDR. Um
[1:54:17] » So there's a you know [clears throat]
[1:54:19] there's a lot of attachments and you
[1:54:22] know things to the nar the narrative is
[1:54:25] something that
[1:54:29] » I don't know that's not
[1:54:32] » Going to take too much but so I would
[1:54:34] say you know 8,000 will definitely cover
[1:54:38] you if you're going to go to a
[1:54:40] environmental consulting firm.
[1:54:42] » Mhm. Um I think some of the private
[1:54:45] contractors you'll be more around five
[1:54:48] to four to five.
[1:54:50] » All right. So I'll talk to Daria and
[1:54:53] see.
[1:54:53] » Yeah.
[1:54:54] » Um so that's what I have budgetwise and
[1:54:57] that's it. That's all I've done there.
[1:55:00] Anything else we should talk about?
[1:55:03] » So we did say the budget [laughter] for
[1:55:06] the survey we thought was 12,000.
[1:55:08] » Was 12,000? Yeah.
[1:55:10] » It came in twice.
[1:55:12] » Yeah. That's not surprising.
[1:55:15] » So anyway, um yeah. So anyway, so
[1:55:19] there's that. Um and
[1:55:23] all right, uh that's it. That's all I
[1:55:27] have for reviewing the budget and
[1:55:28] funding sources.
[1:55:31] » So 2.3 is discussion of a presentation
[1:55:34] and a presentation for boards and
[1:55:36] committees. I did do the select board.
[1:55:39] Selena was there on Tuesday just because
[1:55:43] um so there was a vote on support for
[1:55:46] the concept of the CR at Squanakook
[1:55:49] Meadows and that uh came out favorably.
[1:55:53] So, um,
[1:55:55] » So we have have that presentation pretty
[1:55:59] much done and I pretty much used the map
[1:56:02] and the deed.
[1:56:03] » Yeah.
[1:56:04] » Was and just showed how the the CR kind
[1:56:10] of matched the deed
[1:56:12] » And and and the wording was up there,
[1:56:15] too. It's hard to put the wording up
[1:56:17] when we have all those strikeouts and
[1:56:19] all, but but it's it worked. So,
[1:56:23] » Yeah.
[1:56:23] » And
[1:56:25] um that's it.
[1:56:28] » That's great.
[1:56:30] » Should we um go to the conservation
[1:56:33] commission, Mike? Does that make sense?
[1:56:35] If you want to see if we should get on
[1:56:37] your agenda at some point.
[1:56:38] » Sure.
[1:56:39] » And maybe the planning board.
[1:56:42] Um but I don't know who else. What do
[1:56:45] you guys think?
[1:56:48] » Anybody else?
[1:56:51] James at the last night's meeting did
[1:56:54] ask me for the next meeting to just sort
[1:56:56] of report on where we are on this, but
[1:56:58] then I'll ask Colby um or I'll ask James
[1:57:03] and we should if you want a formal
[1:57:05] presentation in front of the
[1:57:07] » It it can be informal. It can be you
[1:57:10] presenting if you want. I think that's
[1:57:12] fine.
[1:57:13] » Okay.
[1:57:14] » So, I mean I presented for the select
[1:57:16] board and I didn't run it by anybody.
[1:57:19] [laughter]
[1:57:20] So, but just let us know so that we
[1:57:23] could attend or if we wanted, you know,
[1:57:26] » If three of us are there, it's
[1:57:29] » Oh, yeah. We can do that.
[1:57:32] » Yeah. So,
[1:57:33] » But
[1:57:34] » I won't be there.
[1:57:34] » You could go with Mike and
[1:57:37] » Or I could go with
[1:57:39] » Emily could go with Mike.
[1:57:41] » Yeah. One of us could be there to
[1:57:44] support if need be. [clears throat]
[1:57:47] » Okay. So just let us know when the
[1:57:49] meeting is and uh
[1:57:51] » Okay. So to make it clear,
[1:57:54] [clears throat] this would be in
[1:57:56] addition to this little informal report
[1:57:59] that I'm making next meeting or do we
[1:58:01] make this?
[1:58:02] » No, your informal report would be what
[1:58:05] I'm thinking of. Okay. The question is
[1:58:07] if you would like back up to help answer
[1:58:10] any questions just let us know when the
[1:58:13] meeting is for sure because
[1:58:14] » And one of going through this and I'm
[1:58:17] thinking I had absolutely no idea that
[1:58:19] it was going to be this complex
[1:58:21] [laughter]
[1:58:22] and there's a reason why I'm not a
[1:58:24] lawyer.
[1:58:27] And and at that meeting
[1:58:30] um will you ask for the conservation
[1:58:33] commission to approve of the concept of
[1:58:36] a CR?
[1:58:40] » Sure.
[1:58:41] Yeah. I don't know.
[1:58:43] » I just feel like here we are. We're
[1:58:46] moving forward on this. This is real
[1:58:47] now.
[1:58:48] » Yeah.
[1:58:48] » And people are going to be spending
[1:58:50] money are have spent money on this.
[1:58:53] there's money being expended and so we
[1:58:56] want to make sure that the CR is
[1:58:59] supported.
[1:59:00] So that's
[1:59:02] » And and uh the commission should be
[1:59:04] aware that they will
[1:59:07] um
[1:59:10] Oh wait, no, they don't have to sign off
[1:59:12] on the commit on the CR.
[1:59:14] » Sorry, I was I was thinking of a
[1:59:17] different Yeah, if they were holding it,
[1:59:19] they would. Yeah.
[1:59:21] » And the select board are one and the
[1:59:23] same.
[1:59:24] » That's right.
[1:59:24] » Yeah.
[1:59:25] » Yeah. So, there are no conservation
[1:59:28] signatures, but
[1:59:31] » I mean,
[1:59:32] » It's just one less one less board to get
[1:59:35] signatures from. I'm you know
[1:59:38] I've got uh
[1:59:41] yeah
[1:59:42] » Too many projects where I'm like, "Oh, I
[1:59:45] got to get this signature this."
[1:59:48] And then um there's planning board.
[1:59:51] » I planning board um would be good. I can
[1:59:56] go to planning board. Selena, you could
[1:59:59] come with me.
[2:00:00] » Um
[2:00:01] » So I know I know your recreation
[2:00:03] commission or committee isn't involved,
[2:00:06] but is that something that
[2:00:08] » They should know about or?
[2:00:12] » Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
[2:00:16] I don't know who the chair is of the
[2:00:17] recreation commission. I can find out.
[2:00:20] » It's um
[2:00:22] uh I kayak with her and all of a sudden
[2:00:25] her name just went poof. [laughter]
[2:00:28] » You will remember it.
[2:00:30] » Okay. So, Mike is doing the cons with
[2:00:33] one of us. So, let us know Mike and um
[2:00:37] we'll see to it that one of us is there.
[2:00:40] Um,
[2:00:42] Mike, the planning board will be me and
[2:00:45] Selena and I'll I'll check in with them
[2:00:48] for when to
[2:00:49] » Yep.
[2:00:49] » And then rec commission. I'll check with
[2:00:51] them too to see when they're meeting
[2:00:53] next and if we could talk to them.
[2:00:55] » Emily.
[2:00:56] » Oh, yeah. [laughter]
[2:00:59] The sheets are she's not the board.
[2:01:01] She's the
[2:01:03] » No, she's our she's our director.
[2:01:05] Whatever.
[2:01:07] » The recreation supervisor. And I think
[2:01:09] it might be with Rachel.
[2:01:11] » Rachel.
[2:01:12] » Okay, I'll talk to Emma. She'll tell me.
[2:01:16] » All right.
[2:01:17] » So, at some point, do we want to have a
[2:01:21] night at like the library
[2:01:26] and open it to the public to come in?
[2:01:31] » I think that's a good idea. Are we at
[2:01:33] that point now or do we want to do it?
[2:01:37] Let's wait until Misty gets her comments
[2:01:40] back. Once Misty gets her comments back,
[2:01:42] I want to run it by town council.
[2:01:45] » Yep.
[2:01:45] » And then submit to EOEA
[2:01:48] if that's okay with everybody.
[2:01:51] » Yep.
[2:01:51] » So, um Yeah.
[2:01:54] » So, after we've submitted it to EOA
[2:01:58] or after it's gone through council,
[2:02:02] » I think after it's gone through council.
[2:02:04] Okay.
[2:02:04] » Then we do it. it can be in the EOEA
[2:02:07] process when we do a a thing. Okay.
[2:02:10] » Cuz once the EOA
[2:02:12] process is done, it's just a matter of
[2:02:15] signatures.
[2:02:15] » Signatures. So,
[2:02:18] » Um just and just one little thing we
[2:02:22] need to be careful about is
[2:02:27] um the more people that know about
[2:02:30] endangered species
[2:02:33] details,
[2:02:35] the more likely it is that there will be
[2:02:38] poaching problems
[2:02:40] and and it is a real issue.
[2:02:44] um I forget the name of the guy up in
[2:02:47] New Hampshire who wrote um a turtle book
[2:02:51] about a place that he called the digs
[2:02:55] and
[2:02:57] um
[2:02:59] and it's been destroyed by
[2:03:02] » By people who have gone there because
[2:03:05] they've read about it, you know,
[2:03:07] [clears throat] and that's why in size
[2:03:09] book it was all
[2:03:11] a different town, a different date,
[2:03:14] » Right?
[2:03:16] » Um, so we just have to be really careful
[2:03:20] about how much information
[2:03:23] is given
[2:03:27] to the public at large. I that's just
[2:03:31] something we really have to watch out
[2:03:34] for
[2:03:37] or the place will get loved to death.
[2:03:40] [laughter]
[2:03:43] All right.
[2:03:45] So,
[2:03:46] » David Carol was his name.
[2:03:49] » David Carol.
[2:03:50] » Yeah.
[2:03:52] » All right. So, um Mike will let us know.
[2:03:56] I'll schedule the planning board and the
[2:03:58] recreation commission and let everybody
[2:04:01] know when that is us so that um we have
[2:04:06] we have two people
[2:04:08] each time.
[2:04:10] All right, that's it for 2.3. The next
[2:04:13] is uh agenda and dates for next
[2:04:16] meetings.
[2:04:19] [cough]
[2:04:20] So,
[2:04:24] um, the the things I can see having to
[2:04:26] talk about are funding,
[2:04:29] um, a presentation to the larger public
[2:04:32] when we get to that point, and anything
[2:04:36] that comes back from Misti.
[2:04:40] So, I think we should wait a couple
[2:04:41] weeks
[2:04:43] if that's okay with everybody.
[2:04:49] Does that sound right to you to I'm I'm
[2:04:52] dropping everything.
[2:04:53] » I think the other thing we need to um
[2:04:56] look at would be the revised
[2:05:00] um
[2:05:02] conservation restriction plan map
[2:05:05] [clears throat] from Dillis and Roy.
[2:05:06] » Okay.
[2:05:10] [cough and clears throat]
[2:05:16] All right.
[2:05:18] since funding the revised map
[2:05:22] presentation
[2:05:26] and Misty's comments.
[2:05:32] Um, I believe when I spoke with Misty,
[2:05:39] the timeline for getting it returned
[2:05:42] once we send it to her was pretty long.
[2:05:46] It would be what?
[2:05:47] » Pretty long.
[2:05:48] » Pretty long.
[2:05:49] » Um, I'm looking for
[2:05:52] I made a note.
[2:05:54] » Like, two weeks. [laughter]
[2:05:56] Two weeks.
[2:06:04] » School vacation.
[2:06:14] the is the 20th, right?
[2:06:17] » So, this is the if I get it to her on
[2:06:20] the 16th of March.
[2:06:23] Um
[2:06:26] [cough and clears throat]
[2:06:29] » I um I have to run, but um can you just
[2:06:33] send me a meeting invite or whenever
[2:06:36] we're meeting next?
[2:06:38] » Okay, that sounds good.
[2:06:40] » Okay.
[2:06:41] » All right. Thank you, Anna. Appreciate
[2:06:43] it.
[2:06:44] » Yeah. Byebye.
[2:06:45] » See you. Bye.
[2:06:54] » So, we're looking at April.
[2:06:56] » We're looking at April. And I'm thinking
[2:06:58] the 16th.
[2:07:01] Is that too late, though?
[2:07:04] Well, let's wait and see what um if
[2:07:07] Sabrina finds that message.
[2:07:18] because that's what five weeks from
[2:07:20] today.
[2:07:21] » Yeah.
[2:07:21] » Um that's a long time. But I don't know
[2:07:24] about her.
[2:07:25] » Could we tenatively make it for the 9th
[2:07:29] and then if we haven't heard back from
[2:07:33] her by then, we could just switch to the
[2:07:37] 16th
[2:07:38] » Or even the second. We could do the
[2:07:40] second. That's three weeks. The second
[2:07:43] is
[2:07:44] three weeks. Does that work for you,
[2:07:46] Mike? I think um the Easter holiday is
[2:07:52] that weekend, the fourth and the fifth.
[2:07:54] » Oh, yeah.
[2:07:55] » If people were traveling or anything,
[2:08:03] » My son has a track meet on the second
[2:08:05] floor.
[2:08:05] » On the second floor. Let's go to the
[2:08:07] night.
[2:08:10] On the 9th, I have a meeting until 7,
[2:08:12] but it's here in town, so I could be
[2:08:14] here at like 7:15 or 7:30.
[2:08:16] » I could do 7:30. [laughter]
[2:08:20] I hate to do that to you.
[2:08:24] » So, Thursday the 9th at 7:30.
[2:08:27] » Okay.
[2:08:32] [clears throat]
[2:08:34] I move that we adjourn.
[2:08:38] I'm good at that. [laughter]
[2:08:39] » Emily Fine, you have to say your name
[2:08:41] because it's remote.
[2:08:43] » Emily Fine moves to a journ at 911 p.m.
[2:08:49] » Perfectly.
[2:08:51] Um, is there a second?
[2:08:53] » Second.
[2:08:55] » Um, all those in favor, roll call,
[2:08:58] please. Starting with Mike.
[2:09:00] » Mike Pat. Yes.
[2:09:02] » Selena Thomas, yes. And Veronica Cal,
[2:09:05] yes. and
[2:09:07] » Emily fine. Yes.
[2:09:09] » All right.